Uncle Joey's Joint with Joey Diaz - They can all s*ck your d@#k!

Episode Date: May 26, 2026

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Kick this motherfucker, Neil Lee. What's going on, beautiful people? Happy Memorial Day. What'd you do? Stay in and get the rain like we did. It's Tuesday, May 26th. The church of what's happening now? What is it?

New Testament. New Testament. The power of Christ compels you, motherfuckers. How's everybody doing? Lee, what's happening, brother? Oh, good weekend. But I don't know. I got to go to better help.

I got to do some. I've been fucking up. I don't know what it is. I miss my first three. Who? You missed a flight with us, too. I should have missed a flight with you, but you were nice and held it for me. I was being fucking cheap. They wanted $150 for an Uber from New York to JFK.

I was like, I don't want to do that. It's all part of the business. I should have, but I make $400 for the weekend, so they don't want to do $150 for that. So then I was like, ah, I'll take the train to JFK. The one you wanted me to take when we shot the documentary, I found the train. I was, I ran. Dude, I was sweating. You're still sweating.

I'm still sweating. I missed it by two minutes. A bunch of people missed the flight, but I, oh, I was so pissed. And they wanted me, they put me on standby for the 8.30, like four hours later. And six people would have had to miss the flight. So I drove to Charlotte this weekend. Drove to Charlotte. And then yesterday I drove back, stopped in Baltimore, got some crab into the spot in

Baltimore. So overall, a good weekend. But have you ever missed a flight? In the early days, I'm missing my purpose. I get so fucked up. I don't want to get on that flight. Forget on the next one. Dude, I'm a nerd.

I have never done it. It sucked. But the weekend was good. How was your weekend? It started going out a little early, Lee. Yeah. That's it. You already play with fire twice.

It's time for you to go, you know what? Two hours before. You're a computer guys. You got computer. See, I go to the airport. I don't know how to log on. So I'm sitting there with no internet, like a fucking idiot. That's the gate.

Listen to my phone. music. You guys got computers and you know how to log in to P. I said in a plane with no internet. Your phone has internet without Wi-Fi. Your phone has internet. That's what everybody tells me. It's never there for me. Never there for me. And then you get on United and there's no fucking internet. You got to buy it tonight before. They don't take cash. You know, what the fuck? You try to pay for internet with cash? Why not? Ash is the best. That's the last night check. No, they don't take cash. They don't take cash in the airport. No. You got to go far. fucking paperless.

Like, they won't take a dime from you. I love it. I love to see you offer a flight attendant cash for the Wi-Fi. Always do. I've been offering those bitches money since Jesus left Chicago. That's the only way you get service. Oh, my God.

How was your weekend? You had a week with mercy. I had the weekend on my daughter. It was quite the, it was great. I mean, you know, there was not much to do.

She only asked me to drive it to a few places. We sat at home at night. She watched me play Grand Theft Auto and act like an asshole, you know, that was it. This fucking rain, I was just talking about this. Memorial Day weekend, we had rain since fucking Thursday. Yeah. Since Thursday.

It was like it broke you. Saturday I got up, Sunday morning I got up at 7.30 to pee. And it was like fucking coming down. So I was like going back to bed. No reason I got up and drink a cup of coffee in the rain. Yeah. Like an asshole at 7.30 in the morning. But what do you want from me?

That's the best. And then have you ever had anyone still? something from you at a hotel? Yeah. Dude. So I was going to Charlotte by myself. And then when I missed the flight, I picked up my wife because I did work during the day.

So I drove, she drove down. We left a pair of headphones at a hotel in Virginia. We called on the way back up yesterday. And I'm like, hey, because you can track them. I'm like, hey, they're there. We're like, oh, we don't see him. We don't see him.

We can see him moving around. We get to the hotel. First of all, they didn't call me. He said we left a pair of headphones. which they should have done. We get to the hotel. We track the headphones to the dumpster. Someone put them in the top of the dumpster in a bag

just to steal them. People are so, it's gotten crazy out there. Customer service is that as fucking all-time work. So if you leave something out of the hotel, just... You're fucked. You're fucked. If a nice Mexican lady finds and she's Catholic, maybe, but besides that,

some white animal finds it, you're fucking done. My guest today is my brother, young kid. I met him about two years ago. I love this motherfucker. John Body Shot Leonardo. What's up, everybody? Get on to the mic, God damn it already. What's up, everybody?

What's going on, brother, man? You know, same stuff. Thank you for coming on. Appreciate you guys having me on. You got a big fight the 13th of June? Yes, sir. Father's Day weekend. Yep.

For my pops, man, doing it for him. And now he works for you in the ring. He coaches you. trainer and manager. Trainor manager. Good, good. What else has happened? You're like 24 year old?

I'm 26 now. 26. Holy shit. Crazy. And you went pro when you were 20, originally from Manalapan? Yes, sir. What made you want to fucking hit people in the face?

Oh, they get startled. My father is a retired professional. So, you know, I jumped in it because of him. You know, I copied every move that that guy made, even some of the bad ones.

But, you know, jumping into this was, you know, can I do it, can I do it? Can I do it? And finally one day he said, all right, you know what? You could do it. Let's see if you got what it takes. Turns out I got what it takes. So here I am 13 years later, still going, still doing it. God bless you, man.

That's a tough fucking angle. If you think comedies are, that's a fucking tough angle. Comedy, you just people don't laugh. With this shit, you get punched in the fucking head. That's not wetter, you know what I'm saying? And I bet people would get funnier. If somebody had a stick with a boxing glove in the audience, and every time he said a bad joke, they just joked at you.

I've always been a big boxing guy. Like, I love watching it. I grew up in the golden age of boxing. You know, like, everybody was fucking good. People have no idea about this. I don't talk a lot about this shit. Once a week, I will get high. I do it four times a week.

But once a week, I'll pick a fight, and I'll get high, and I'll call a Rogan at one in the morning. And we'll talk about this fight. I'll make him put it on on his computer. And we just talk. Like last week it was Magabi against somebody, Duran or something. Fucking two animals.

And we came up with the conclusion that in the 70s and early 80s, people did not care about fucking E.T.D. Whatever that shit. CTE when you forget you're hitting that. Bro, when you watch the beginning of Hagler Thomas Hurd, none of them were thinking about CT. No.

It's called one of the greatest round, first rounds of all time. They just went out there and started punching on each other. That's a difference between that and now, I think. I think people, you go into the ring, listen, if you think about getting hurt,

you're going to get hurt. Yeah, of course. You know, if you think, I'm going to get hurt if I do gymnastics, you're going to get hurt. So if you go into a fight thinking, you know, and it's a sad, I truly believe in it.

but I love all this shit. Loved it. But as I got older, I started checking up benefits of boxing for old people, and they were like, just the best thing you could do, best exercise you could do when you're over 50. So I was driving by juice box every day. I didn't know what it was. I thought it was a juice place and shit.

And then finally, I went on their website, they're Mexicans. They got no website. They have like a little fucking blurf juice box. Yeah. We got Instagram. Yeah. We don't got no website.

We use Instagram. And I went in there and I met you. I met your dad. I met some fucking great people in there. Yeah, we got characters in there. Bro, that is fucking heaven going in there in the mornings. I take two hits off the bond and I walk in there. And fucking,

Lewis doesn't even know. No, he's got no clue. He'll go, why do you smell different? He'll go, why do you smell different? It's fucking refo, Lewis. Yeah. That's the craziest thing is how I actually met. Joey, the craziest thing was we used to serve food, right? So we're sitting there. We're eating.

And he walks in one day to just grab a juice. And I look at him. I look at Lewis. Lewis looks at me like buys his juice and walks out because he had lost so much weight. I haven't seen him in, you know, in a long time. So Lewis goes, yeah, that's exactly who you thought it was. So when nobody was going to say nothing. So then the next time he came in, I went, But what's up? How are you? Like, nice to meet you. Like, it's an honor to meet you.

You know what I mean? Like, you walked in the gym the other day. Like, it's not every day like a, you know, a high profile person walks into the boxing gym. Just out random. You know, and then we hit it off. We start talking.

We start having conversation. But that was just a cool thing, you know? Like, didn't, I almost didn't recognize it was he had lost so much weight. I was like, whoa. But. And you weren't going in there to check out boxing. You just wanted to juice? No.

I went in there the first time. I didn't, what the fuck was going on. Whenever I boxed there, I was going to juice on the way out. I get the fresh cantaloupe. Fucking tremendous. And the recovery one with the honey. Yeah, the honey and the ginger.

Oh, my God. And I don't like honey. I'm allergic to honey. And I like that fucking drink. Yeah. Yeah, I get all like kids eat penis. They get all I eat honey. I get all fucked up.

You can tell. I have like a little red thing here. Oh, yeah. It makes you break out. I eat honey yesterday. And he picks it up anyways. I'm going to drink that song. Fuck it.

Well, you know, I'm not going to die. And it's good for you. Honey's really fucking good for you. Yeah, local honey too. Yeah, local honey, nice. It's got autism juice in it.

Yeah. So once the beast things are you're all fucking autistic and shit. It was really, you know, listen, man, when I walked in there, you know, when you're an older character like myself, I'm not the best-built guy, but when I walk in those gyms, I'm very insecure. you. I'm very insecure that somebody like you might come up to me and say, go, call him, bro. Call them and make a sweater, do what old people do, you know. But I got to be honest with you. And I think that's why most people my age won't go into those

places because they think they're going to not get bullied, but people are going to say, yeah, like, hey, pops, you know, this shit. I went in there and, I mean, everybody treated me great. I mean, it's just a, this time I'm hitting the bag and the guy that fought last week, the black dude, Terrell. I love that motherfucker. He'll come over and put the mitts and come on, Joey, three minutes, I'll work with you. It's all, they're always trying to push you. And then I got my friend to go down there. Trickey Nicky, cute girl that goes down there now with another girl that does sweaty girl fucking, they go down there. I've been seeing them on Instagram. And they

fucking love it, those two girls. Tricky Nikki calls me every night. Like, man, thank you for turning me on to that place. I took it down there with me. And then the holidays came. They got busy and then she called me when they because I'm going to go down there with some other girl. But that's the thing about that, Jim. I don't care how old you are. You can walk in there. And one of those motherfuckers will come up to you and go, hey, man, you need me help? And you sit there and go, wow.

And I sit and watch how they treat other people. They treat other people the same. It's just one of those places that they encourage you. I'm going to go there until I die. I'm going to either die there. Like, I don't want to die on, yeah, because I got no reason not to go there. I got no reason not to go. I went there eight days after my knee surgery.

Would I go anywhere else? No, but I know if I fall and break my leg, I got Lewis, I got you, I got Big Joe, I got the Puerto Rican trainer. I got the four girls in the morning. You know, and I love going Tuesdays and Thursdays because it's girls. And those girls, the big tall one, the Muay Thai fighter, that's my girl. Yeah, they're great. They're great.

They're great. You know, we got rules in our gym, right? So the biggest rule in our gym is it doesn't matter what level you are, right? You could be a professional like me. You could be an amateur. You could be someone just walking in. You come in, you treat everyone the same way. Nobody's like, oh, I'm the best.

We don't do that at the gym. That's not cool. Like, you want to welcome these people to be the next you. You know what I mean? Like, I'm a professional. I want all the guys underneath me to be able to one day do this. You know what I mean? They come in.

They shake everything. Everyone's hands in the gym. Everybody. Bye and goodbye. Always. You know what I mean? Hey, good morning. And I can raise the fuck out of me because I'm dying.

I'm hitting the bag. I'm at 2.30 and some guy I'll come up for me. Joe, man. Thanks for coming to there. Okay, let me keep fucking dying again. What are you going to do? You come in Thursday? Like, what the fuck?

There's a kid there that's talking me about stand-up comedy. Now I talk to him about stand-up comedy. But my favorite all-time there is the sister-in-law. Oh, you're talking about hello? That's her name? With the four kids? Yeah. Oh, that's my girl, though.

I went there a few months, and I'm like, I don't know what's up with this girl. She's the nicest girl in the world, and she always goes out of my way to help me. She makes all the juice, too. Yeah. I bust her balls about that. She kills it. And then I saw her bring her father in. She's in a wheelchair.

And she was holding the midst of him, and I'm like, this girl's a real fucking deal. And I love it at that. She brings me tamales on Saturdays and shit. Oh, that's your tamale hook up. That's my tamales. Molly hookup, bro. It's like a fucking family down there. And we both missed the fucking parade this morning yesterday.

Yeah, today. I fucking missed the parade yesterday because this comes out on Tuesday. Yeah. I just drug up the story and they're all there walking down the story. Fuck. They told me to show up because they were going to pull me. They go, we're going to pull you. Don't even need to walk the three miles.

We'll just fucking pull you. I'm like, holy shit. Like in a wagon. Like in a wagon. Yeah. I sit him down and pull him down the podcast. Let's go get him away. Let's go do it.

Pull him in a little wagon. I feel bad for that dude that's pulling the wagon. That's a long three miles. He's cutting weight. It's good for you to pull. Oh, my God. So you train there and a couple other places. That's my home gym.

That's where I do most of my train. And then I go spa at a lot of gyms. Right. So I go down to Philly, a lot of sport down in Philly. I go to Newark a lot. You know, pretty much anywhere there's, work for me to get, I go. Right, because that's how you get better.

You go to sport with these guys, different level guys, different level guys, other professionals, amateur boxers, all kinds of guys. I was in camp with Stephen Fullen. He was the champ of the world. Raymond Ford, who's fighting next week. Yeah, I was in camera Raymond Ford. He's fighting Oshackie Foster, May 30th. It's coming up.

Next weekend. Yeah, next weekend. Looking forward to that. So I've been in camps of world champion. Guys, I've been a Geron Ennis's gym down there training, you know, never sported of him because She's ginormous. I mean, just to be around these guys, be in the gym with the...

It lives you. Yeah. It lives you. Something. Metal sharpens metal. It's like us. We could sit in New York City at the same club every night

and do comedy and kill and it's the same shit. You take that same material, go to Virginia, and you die of slow death. So that's why you travel to learn the different... And sometimes you go to these places

too early. And you actually bomb because it's the bottom. tribal belt. You know, you don't know about all this little bullshit that's underneath. But that's how you get better by going up in front of different people and falling audibles, you know? Let me try the, I'm just going to work on the one, two, step out, maybe a fucking uppercut in the left, uh, John shot, body shot, you know. So that's what is. Another kid, the kids that come from Staten Island, they have a nice ship in Staten Island.

Yeah, they have a really nice shit. The kid that comes over is a, a Fuck, what's the name of the gym? St. Cloud. I follow them. I both city something. We go back and forth. There's a couple of them because they, because a couple of those kids come from different gyms on Staten Island.

Yeah. And I can't even think. One of them is hard knocks boxing gym. And the trainer over there. City something. Yeah, I'm not sure. Good fucking dudes, man. Real good guys.

I come down. The one kid was helping me get ready for that fight. He was helped me get ready for one of my last fights before I. got injured and then I ended up, you know, taking a little layoff and then coming back. So he actually recently just joined this camp with me. He'd been driving up from Staten Island to give me sparring and then, you know, he heads back home. So break down right now you have a fight in three weeks, basically, right? What is your day consist of now on a weekly basis?

I know you have a day job. Yeah, I got a day job, yep. But what is your job consistent of like, do you get up at five and drink eggs and run like Rocky? And what's the story? Yeah, pretty much. So, like the dudes I work with, they think I'm crazy. You know what I mean? I get up at between 4.30, 5 o'clock in the morning, and I either swim or do some kind of

exercise. I do my swim, my strength training, or my yoga at 5 to 5.30 in the morning. I get to work for seven. So I work for the township in Edison. I get to the work. I work the day on lunch. I put my running shoes on. I go out and run.

I run two to eight miles. whatever I have time for for that day. Come back to the shop. I change back in my work clothes. I go back to work. I leave work and I go to the boxing gym. That's what I do pretty much every single day. And I work a full-time job.

And weekends, including? And I, Saturday mornings, I just do my sparring. I'm in a lot of stuff, man. Sometimes I, sometimes they tell me I overdo it.

You know what I mean? My dad and my trainers are like, you know, it's time to like relax, you know, but that should make give me a conflict. At least you know you did the work. nothing is worse than being on the mat

knocked out. Once you get knocked out, you know, all the reasons why you got knocked out. So you're sitting there, yeah. Something happens, I know I gave me everything I got out. You know you did the work. You covered the spread, so that's fucking crazy. And you guys that worked, like, there was a guy

in the UFC that was this big, tough black dude. He would just come in and beat you to fuck up. So I'm Alexander. And, you know, you don't really know. That's why I like, 2020, all those boxing shows that tell you about John. Like, John might come out and fight. And I go, I don't like John.

But also, they do a thing about your house. You were your dad eating and your daughter or your girlfriend. Yeah, like the showtime. Yeah. I like them now. Yeah. And once I watched that, he was a single dad. His wife left him with four kids.

He would get up at five and go to Jiu-Jitsu for two hours. And then get on the truck and drive for UPS to six. till six. Go home, cook for the kids. His sister would put him to bed and he would go right back to the gym until 10 o'clock at night and back up the next day on six fucking hours.

I don't know. What that tells me is, you're fucking serious about what you're doing. Yeah, that changes your perspective. That changes everything. Yeah, you're serious about you doing. Talk, this, do you know many nights I sit here at six and go, after World News tonight,

I'm going to go to the boxing gym, you know, just to see the guy, I can't do it at night. I cannot work. out at night. When I was a kid, I could work out all hours a day. But at my age now, I got to get up and get it over with. Yeah. You're not the only one. You know, like, I'm I have a hard time fucking doing anything at night. When I do do it, I feel good about myself. And I go, you know, I'm going to keep doing this. Never go back. Yeah. So I'm about, at night. Like the day's over. Yeah. Now I got to go fucking, you know, I'd rather get here

at 10, 9, do an hour and get the fuck out of here. And I could go home and at least I did my main thing for the day, which is take care of me. That's what I like, you know? So, like now I'm going to PT twice a week, strength training twice a week, and boxing twice a week. Yeah, so you got a lot. You got a good breakdown.

Yeah, and that's what. Good mix of stuff. Good mix, you know. I want to get old gracefully. I see old guys, and it's true. You have no muscle left. So you see how you walk. Your legs get skinny and shit.

I can't let that happen, Uncle Joey. So I'm going all, I don't care if I have to sit in a wheelchair with one dumbbell and just fucking, yeah, yeah. Not that you're going to get push or anything, you just feel better. Yeah, you do. You just fucking feel better, man. When I do something early, that means I could do anything that day. If I have to drive to the gym with my 63-year-old ass at 10 and say hello,

and listen, that's more than a lot of guys my age. Oh, yeah, trust me. So I want to get it out of the fucking way, and I feel better about myself. I tackled the most important thing of the day. Fuck the stage. I'm going to go on a stage and I'm ripping apart because I've got that confidence. I feel that much better. You knew you got up early and you put some work in.

Yeah, not that it fucking, not that boxing's going to make my comedy better. And not that lifting stupid weight's going to, but it's the discipline of doing it and then taking it over there. That's, that's world. Now, when I was like you guys developing, I could talk all. all this shit. I was not going to do anything. When I was, like, in the development stage of comedy, that's why I got up to 418 pounds. Four fucking 18, because I just didn't give a fuck.

I wanted to do comedy, snort Coke, smoke cigarettes, and drink Coca-Cola. That's it. I used to drink 30 coax a night at the fucking club. Because I don't drink alcohol. Oh. Well, like, it's... I have a day job, and I start at 8, which is not... It's from home, so it's easy. But, like, dude, I can't.

How many days a week do you get that 5 a.m. alarm and you're like, I got that much. I know. What time do you go to bed? My girl, I can't believe it. She's like,

you are like the most motivated person that I know. I get up, I jump out of bed and like it's time to get to work, man. Because like, if I don't work as hard as I can, there's a shot I might get fucked up. To be honest with you. Right.

Because like, even it's sparring. You go to the gym sometimes. Sometimes there's an ass who up and waiting for you. You know what I mean? you're going to war every single day. And if you're not on point, sometimes you're due for an asswopin, you know?

I don't want to be that guy, you know, to get that ass whoopin. It's just so, I bomb and it sucks, but I'll take a bombing over an ass whipping. That sounds terrible. Now, when you bomb on the way off the stage, do you know the reasons why you bomb? Sometimes. Do you give yourself excuses, like in a younger comic,

or do you go, it's on me? Let me get this out of you. Usually it's on me. Yeah, I try to put it on me. And yeah, but it's just different. It's like, even if I like slacked off that week and maybe didn't do a couple of spots, a bombing hurts and it's, it's the worst bomb for me. And the difference I think between fighting and stand up is if I bomb like the last show of a weekend,

I hate it because then I have to wait until the next weekend. But that's a four or five days away. You ever blame the audience? Sometimes. You ever be like this audience was just Sometimes but it wasn't it It sucks because then as soon as you blame The audience Joey goes up and kills the same

audience you're like oh fuck But but the thing But like if I The thing that always gets in my head Is if I spent six months Training for a fight And I have a rough night whatever And then I have to wait another six months to fight again

That would kill me Yeah that part sucks If I bomb I'll go find a spot that night if I can just to get it off like that's the that's the biggest difference is I can I can get a new spot in a lot quicker than you can get a new fight in do you ever like you know like I'm sure you don't

but like try to call up the promotion be like give me a fight next week just to get like just to get that stink off of you so my one loss I left there I had fought a kid a weight class heavier who was three and out knock three people out cold like stiff them They left there on a stretcher.

And they send this to me on a two-week notice because an opponent fell out. And I look at this guy. My dad goes, I had sold 150, 200 tickets, everyone, dad's like, so what are you going to do? I'm like, I'm going to fight him. What am I going to do? I'm either going to return all the tickets everyone or I'm going to fight him. I went there. I fought him.

I lost a majority of decision. I left there with two swollen eyes. One of them swollen shut where I couldn't see nothing. And the other one just black and blue. and it's like you needed that recovery time. So I couldn't call up the promoter and be like, get them back here next week. It's like you're mentally just like not there.

You know what I mean? Because you got hurt. And like you had put so much into the camp and then that, that shit happens and it just breaks you, you know? Yeah, I can't even imagine. That would destroy me mentally is not being able to like wipe it off. Yeah. And as a fighter, you have to figure out how to wipe it off. And sometimes that takes time. You got to dig deep. You know, you got to be like, why do I do this?

You know what I mean? Right. After that first loss, I remember I took like a week off and I went right back to the gym. What a swollen eye. It's time. Did any part of you think about quitting, like retiring? Like, fuck this shit. I don't know. I don't know if I had those thoughts. I think I just had a lot of doubt in my mind. And at that time, my other. coach had messaged me on Instagram to join our team, which was like, everything happens for a

reason, right? God is good. That's how, you know, I believe, you know, my father's with me. He's my head trainer, head manager. My other assistant coach is now Dustin Fleischer. He was 6 and 0 with five knockouts. He was signed to Rock Nation, to Jay Z. He retired.

And when he's seen I lost, he had messaged me through Instagram and said, hey, listen, I watched your fight. I think I could really help you. And he's been with me four years now. My whole career got flipped upside down and had just improved a lot of stuff that I was missing. How important is the coach? It's very important. That's who he's not in there with you, but he's the one person that's there with you outside the ring, motivating you and pushing you and teaching you.

Which is like, you know, you need that in a fight, you know, especially when, you know, shit hits the fan, which in a fight, it's going to, happen a lot, you need that person there. Does the between round things, does that help? Like, if they're giving you advice, can you actually like, focus? Marinate on and like hear it or are they just round, bra bra bra bra bra bra bra bra bra bra. When you're as experience as I am, yeah, definitely. When I first started, it was just like over my head.

You know what I mean? Like, you're saying stuff and I'm not listening type of deal, you know? Yeah. So I can't, I can't even imagine just. letting that stuff in after, between rounds, you must be dead, right? No. No, you're not dead. Yeah, I'm crazy condition.

Your heart's bumping. Yeah. Your heart's pumping, Jack. And here's the secret to it that he'll tell you in all those rounds with the 10,000 people, 5,000 people, and they're yelling and screaming, you really do just hear your coach's voice. That's the truth. You really do. And you've got to listen to him.

You'll see that. He starts, when he starts training you. you, he starts talking you from a distance, and he gets louder, because he wants you to know his voice. So when there's 5,000 people, you have to zero in, and that's the voice you hear. That, to me, would be fucking tough. That's just, you know, unless I went up on stage with, like, an earplug and you talk to me. Right.

Get rid of that joke. What the fuck are you doing? Say the joke about the mule. You know what I'm saying? Right, right, right. Yeah. But, yeah, it's got to be. you're going into war with him.

He's just not there with you. Every time you get punched, that coach feels it. He's there. He's yelling. He's giving instruction. He might see something that you don't see because you're locked in on something else. And you're like, I never even fucking saw that.

So why, like, I'm a very amateur fan. But, like, and I watch more UFC than I do boxing, but you'll watch a fight in between rounds. The coach would be like, you got to hit him with the uppercut. He gets open. and then you go and then the fighter goes in and doesn't even try the uppercut. And as a fan, I'm like, why isn't he?

Like, is it just... Why isn't he listening? Is it like, is it cockiness? Is it like, it's not open? Like, when you see a fighter not listen to the coach, why do you think that is? There's a lot of different reasons for it, but I think the best way to, like, say it is

is some guys think that they know it all. And they don't. And some dudes are just not in that good shape that once they get exhausted, anything that they're going to be told, they're not going to listen to. That's the biggest thing. Right? He's like, you can say whatever you want, but when you're exhausted, you may just not be able

to get it off. You know what I mean? Okay. It's just a completely different, kidding. I've had this theory forever. I don't know if I've been punched in the face. I don't know how you brush that off

in a fight and don't like just like immediately quit like there was that I don't I don't even know what fighter was yeah there was a boxer it was two big black dudes during the announcements one dude just left the ring

do you remember you've seen that it was the other his opponent came out he looked he was like fuck this and he just let how do you how do you get punched in the face like this is great Like, that just sounds terrible. You know what it is, too?

Is like, when you do something so long, it's just like second nature, right? Just like anything. Like, to me, like you guys getting up on stage, I can never do that. I can never do that. It's so much easier. No, it's not. I'm bad. I'm bad with crowds.

I said, I say this to my girl all the time, too. The only time I could be in front of a crowd is when I'm fighting. You don't see me out at Barre. You don't see me out at Ospre. I don't go out into crowds. I don't do that. To get up on a stage and talk in front of a crowd, I bet I can teach you to do that before you can teach me to box.

That. I accept your challenge. Juice box next week. We get them down. Yeah. Yeah. I'll box a bag. I don't.

Let me ask you a question. Yeah. Your mom went to see you in San Diego. Okay. I think you ate a bag of dick that. Oh, yeah. How bad did you feel? Terrible.

Okay. And did you quit? No, but I didn't get points in the face. It doesn't matter. That's Eric, listen. You don't want your mother seeing you get beat up or suck on another man's dick, okay? That's what mothers never want to see, okay? Your mom does not want to see you get beat up.

So you just ate an egg. Listen, and I'm not picking on you. No, no. I'm talking to you from even experience. I remember years ago, dog. And you know what? I hated that dude until he died. When I heard he had cancer, I'm like, thank God.

about 20 years ago I did the show at Caroline. Do you remember that show? It's Latino. It was like the Latino comedy festival. And this motherfucker, you know, Lothberg, and they all come out. They all came out. I had like 80 people there.

People that had jobs the next day. It's Wednesday night. This guy told him my set was at 10. He put a salsa band up before me. And I had to go out, then I just ate a bag of dick. Because I don't even brown. They were looking at me,

who's this fucking, white guy, and I remember having to drive home with them. And like, your uncle was like, yeah, you got to quit. You know, like shit like that. New Jersey people, they just tell you, it's time for you to quit, dog. You know, I didn't quit. Why didn't I quit? All those beatings I took will make you quit.

What would make any difference if you get knocked out? It's something to learn from. Every bombing you fucking learn, especially when you invite all your friends, you're going to have a good night. Your girlfriend comes with the mink. Oh, yeah. And now you go up there and die a slow fucking debt. And they're telling you, you did great.

And that even makes it worse. Oh, I know. When they tell you that, you did great. That's happened to you? You've lost a fight. People are like, yeah, you didn't. Yeah. So that one loss is a pro that I have, right?

I wasn't sad. I wasn't upset. I took it like a man. Me and the kid hug was shook hands. You know, good fight. I climbed out of the ring. And I was undefeated at the time. So I had lost my first profile.

I climb out of the ring. And I remember the saddest thing was my girl hugging me with tears coming out of her eyes saying, it's okay. It's okay. And her being heartbroken and everything hurt more. Yeah. Yeah. Made me hurt more.

It was like, you know, like he was saying, like, you know, they come out looking all nice. Like, oh,

after the fight is going to be a win. We're going to go out. We're going to have a good night. It didn't turn out that way. Do you ever have, maybe not at this level yet, but I always, whenever I see a fighter have like a,

after party that they're promoting and they lost the fight and they still have to go with sunglasses on. I can't imagine going to a club after you lost. You hate stitches in your lips. Hey, how are you doing? Listen, the parties canceled.

They ain't no party, right? I got beat the fuck up. You want me to go out there in front of my friends and people hugging you? No, no, no. That's one thing I always go. That's balsy. The schedule on after party before a fight

because you don't know what's going to happen. I always schedule one. Do you? Always. Where do you schedule that? So I'm fighting in the Tropicana. So we did a damn good sports bar. So crazy shit.

We're having a good time. I get there. All, you know, all my work friends are there. My friends are there. Family, fans, everything. Having a good time. It's about, you know, but there's other people in the bar, right? So it hits about 2.

2.30 in the morning. We're hanging. Marker goes, getting kind of tired. I go, we'll leave in like 20, 30 minutes. We'll head out. because my grandmother lives down at Egg Harbor, so we sleep down there. This way the next more I get up,

I get hit the beach, I get a coffee and just chill. No more AC. Anyway, so let me go to the bathroom and then we'll leave it dirty. I go into the bathroom. Two people fucking in the bathroom

right when you walk in. I walk out of the bathroom. I grab her, yeah, never mind, it's time to go. Let's get our shit. Let's get the fuck out of here.

I'm done. That's it. Once it hits 2 a.m. And then, leave. Yeah. For real. It gets bad in AC.

It does. I'm like, let's just get out of here. You know what? After party's over. They tell you, when you sign into the Bogota to be a comic, when you sign, they make you sign something. That says they're not responsible if you leave the property.

Because whenever you're in AC, people tell you to go to that sandwich place. It's a sandwich place, White House Tower. No, I never heard it. And they told you. I remember asking a lady going, how far away from the White House, she goes, listen, we don't want you leaving them. And at night, we don't want you. you leaving at all please do us a favor call us we'll figure out a way to get you your fucking

sandwich whatever the fuck that's the truth that i listen because if you tell me i listen and one time i was performing atlantic city and i had done my set and i went outside just to get there just to see the show was still on it was like a headliner and stuff oh i could see them already plotting like you could see two guys across from the entrance and when some of you will walk out the guy at the entrance would do something. The two guys would follow you. I saw it. I saw it.

I fucking saw it in my own eyes. I'm like, yeah, this is funky. Yeah. This is funky. I had a fight where, you know, which you're really not supposed to do this, but after the way in, I said, I want some ice cream.

They go, oh, there's a 7-Eleven. I go into the 7-Eleven. I'm like, this is the worst mistake I've ever made in my life. I grabbed the ice cream of Hagen-Daz and I got out of there. You still got the ice cream? Yeah, I still got it.

But I'm in there like, Yo, at any moment in time, this place could get ran up while I'm in here. I was like, why would I do this for ice cream? Yeah, never again. How long have you been cutting weight? Right now? No, at that point. Oh, at that point, I was caught in wait for like, probably about a month, about four weeks.

You deserve ice cream. Yeah. Oh, man. Is it how good is, what's better, the post weight cut meal or the post fight meal? Man, that's tough. I think probably after the way in eating, right, is the best. best because you're... That food tastes good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know you earned it. Yeah. Like, if you eat a piece of shit with mustard, it's good. You know, like, that was good. I'll never eat it again,

but it was good. Think about it. You've been fucking living like a bumpy for eight weeks. But you still, like, you can't eat a lot because you don't want, like, you don't want to be... They can't overdo it. So I have a cycle that I follow, but I make sure there's some sweets in there because, you know, I got to enjoy something. You know what I mean? Right. Like, I do like, I do like sweet potato or like yams and I cut them up and I put like almost like Thanksgiving, like the syrup on them. I put them in the oven. That's like my like sweet thing. It also gives you a lot of energy.

You know what I mean? It's like a sweet thing. I thought it was like an ice cream. Oh, I do my ice cream too. Yeah, but like I have to have something sweet with every meal like after this. Yeah. But that's like my favorite thing. You got a steak or you eat pasta.

Yeah, of course. Got it. I feel like this thing might slow me down. It might slow you down. Yeah, I don't think it's heavy. Unless it's the next day. The fight's the next day. Yeah.

It's not bad to get a nice steak, fucking little lobster tail. Yeah, lobster tail. And then fucking go upstairs and just rest the next day. A person told me this once. And I was like, what are they talking about? They said on fight day, you should really do nothing. Yeah. Fight day, even comedy, like if I have a big show on a Saturday night,

over a thousand people don't, do nothing. Relax, breathe, maybe write, read a book. That's it. Fuck the wife, whatever. But don't do much. Yeah, don't do much. That's what she's there for on a Saturday. I don't need you here unless you're going to suck my dick to relieve the tension. You know what I'm saying? Tell me what? Antiquotes? What are you going to do? I need you here to, you know, clean up the excess fucking garbage in my body. Is that still a thing not to not to have sex in training camp? Yeah. Oh, so it's That's two weeks before five.

That's I always, always run a two weeks before. How quickly after the fight? Right away. Quickly. First thing. Right. I have to eat that sweet potato. Right, of course.

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And that's it. Do you, and this for both, you guys. Before a show, do you eat the same thing? Do you drink the same thing? Is it? Okay. I can't eat before a show. No. Oh, you can't eat before a show. What's the reason for that? Slows me down. Oh, yeah. Slow me down. Bill coffee? A cup of coffee? Maybe like a soda or an apple on the back of some piece of fruit. Whatever's back then. I'm a little superstitious. I like a sugar free Red Bull. That's what I like. Every time. Not every time, but like with my day job, if I'm going out, like if it's during the week,

I've been up since eight, so I'm tired. So I like a little bit of energy. But eating, I can eat before a show now. When I first started, Joey, it's one of my favorite burns ever. It was my first show. I was so nervous. And I drove like two hours to get there. I hadn't eaten anything.

I was 300 plus pounds. And all I could squeeze down was like half of like a side Caesar salad. And I went to him. I was like, hey, can you eat before shows? I couldn't eat. He's like, he looked at. you should do more shows then. But no, I can't.

Some people can. Some people go, I'll have a stake between shows. I was going to ask, because, like, I'll feel heavy. Like, I just... Yeah, that's heavy. Even if it's like a healthy thing, I just don't... Brother, it's not the... The adrenaline...

It's not the stake. Let me tell you what it is. It's not the steak. It's us five going at dinner. I got to talk. Yeah. Yeah, you got to get the jitters out. Talk. No, no, no, no. I'm talking. It's an hour dinner. I got to go talk for now.

When I'm sitting here, dicking around with you guys trying to make you laugh, now I go on stage and I eat a bag of dick because my focus shouldn't have been on that dinner. It should have been on the stage. That's why I really don't eat. Okay. Because I don't have time for this shit. If somebody starts saying something, I don't have time for it. So before that happens, I'd rather not see anybody. After 5 o'clock, I really don't want to see anything. Headphones on? Music?

Or no? Sometimes. Yeah. But you just want to rest and think about what you're about to do and, you know, visualize what's going to go down. So if I go to dinner, I take my eye off the prize. That's what I'm trying to say. Not that I could eat, though.

I'm a fat fuck and I smoke pot. I can eat every fucking day. But just there has to be some. some type of, and that's my game plan before a comedy show. I don't like to drive and be late or be in a rush. I don't like any of that shit. I want to get there, sit, relax, maybe smoke a joint, keep it light. I don't want no fucking politic talking there or that shit.

Just keep it light. When you go up there, you fucking get every emotion. If I go on stage and I'm already pissed that you motherfuckers are eating hummus. You know, it kind of saw. I try to keep it. And that's, listen, that wasn't always. That was when I started making money. Because I got to think of them now.

But I'm opening for you, I don't give a fuck about these people. I'm worried about the 400 I'm getting for four shows. You know, and that's not going to help me pay the rent. So I got to rob one of these purses after the show or something. You know, it's all part of the, you want to give them the best possible show. you know, I'm already 50-50. Let me give them the best possible show so everything has to be tight like that.

And that's my mind. That's the way it works for me. Yeah. Everybody else is different. Some people like people around them and stuff. I love my family. I just don't want anybody in that hotel room with me telling me shit that I don't need to hear, you know. Yeah.

What's the, what's the green room? Because like, before I started to see, I thought the green room was going to be a party. I thought it was going to be great. The green room for a comedy show is us three on our, phones like this the whole time.

Like, no one says that. It's very quiet. Like, is your, is your, like, locker room like a bunch of music? Are you jumping around? So, uh,

this last fight, they gave me my own locker room. So it was just me. My four cornermen. Now is it. We were just chilling. And, uh, you met Kevin.

My buddy Kevin. Yeah, he's a, he's a cop now. Uh, he's also a pro fighter. But he's one of my cornermen. He's been with me forever. He's my best friend. And, uh, you know,

he's in the locker room trying to get me. he amped up and I don't know if you ever seen any boxing movies or you're watching any Muhammad Ali clips you know we're in there the opponent's out in the hallway seeing the doctor and he's in there going handcuff lightning throw thunder in jail he's yelling this like you know trying to get me hyped up but being like stupid funny you know what I mean he's doing that the whole time this kid that we're fighting just walking past the locker room like what are these guys doing like that's how he's getting amped up but like I'm just just funny shit I am amped up, but I'm more potential energy than kinetic energy.

When I'm sitting there looking at the phone or watching something stupid, I'm not sitting there doing either. I'm thinking, and I'm getting hotter and harder and harder. Yeah. Because I got to be a little bit pissed off before I go on stage, but on my own pissed off. You got to think about something happening when I was a kid. They were getting burned up.

Yeah. And it's like a slow, you put the fire on simmer, you know? I don't want to go all the way up. I put it on simmer. And that's what I'm doing. When Lee's on stage or somebody else on stage, I'm just getting ready. I'm listening to them.

But at the same time, I'm just thinking about how I want to go out there and fuck these motherfuckers up. Now, let me ask you a question. So now, right, I watched you growing up. I watched you on my name is Earl.

I watched you on the longest yard. Now is getting ready for that different than doing stand-up comedy. Right? Because I'm sure they got food. laid out. They got all this stuff laid out, right? Is it a different mindset for that? And is it a different- I was always nervous. Let's get this out of the way. I'm a pussy. I want to feel nervous. Because when you feel nervous, you're going to feel something.

When I stop feeling nervous, that's when I quit. Quit. That's it, quit. Every time you fight somebody, I don't care what you're thinking, there's that little doubt. Yeah, there's always nerves. There's always nerves. And you have to learn how to deal with your nerves. Well, I have to shoot something. I mean, I just watched something the other day that was here. We were watching it. And I'll give you an example. I did a boxing movie with De Niro.

Oh, okay. I never actually seen it. But now I got to go watch it now. It's terrible. Now I have to go watch it. It's probably on right now. It's terrible. It's terrible.

But I'll describe a scene to you. When I got there, I'm like you. I get off the plane. They drove me to my hotel. I walked to my hotel and I got right on the phone with them. I'm like, They're like, well, you don't have wardrobe till tomorrow. I don't give a fuck.

That's the first thing I'm doing. I'm going to smoke a joint, but I'll be down there. When I come down, I'll let you fucking gear me up and shit. And then while they're shooting, you go walk around the set. You just watch. You watch the tempo of the set. You know what I'm saying? Like, how this guy's shooting?

Is he making you do a lot of takes? Is he nice? You know, you're just watching. I don't forget that while I was sitting there watching, De Niro came in. And everybody was going nuts. I just sat there. I didn't say a word.

And he had to do a scene with L.L. Kuljee. Now, I'm watching these two for 10 minutes, rehearse. I'm watching them. I'm watching them. They're doing the tap. You stand here. I stand there. Beautiful.

Action. L. L.L. Kool J fucked up. Let's do it again. L.L. Kul J fucked up again. Again. Again, he could get the line out. And then finally he got it out.

they shot the scene. I'm like, that's fucking weird that that happens. Okay, next day, I got to shoot the scene with De Niro. It's like an easy fucking scene. He says something to me, and I say something back and we're wrapped.

That's how quick it was. No mess-ups. No mess-ups, okay? Wow. One shot. No. That's great. Bro, he came, he hugged me.

He goes, you ready for this? We talked, we rehearsed for like five minutes. It was two fucking lines. Yeah. Two fucking lines, guys. And I'll never forget, when they said action.

He walked up to me. And he started talking to me and I'm like, cut. Like, Joe, you're okay? I'm like, yeah, I'm okay. Because when he came up, he wasn't, De Niro no more.

He was every character I had seen him play. Casino, the fucking guy when he was the murderer. I'm looking, and I forgot my line. I don't know what line to tell.

I don't know if I'm in Goodfellas. I don't know if I'm in Mean Streets. I don't know what the fuck I'm in. Who's Cologaro's dad? Yeah. In a Bronx? I lost it like three times, and then I caught it. Then I got it because just being around them made me fucking.

Then after that, I was fine. The next couple days, me and him were rocking. But that scene taught me why L.L. Kuljee was nervous. That's why L.L. Kuljay was fucking up. Yeah. You got to see it. You got to see it. I got to see it.

Like, everything's cool until the light comes on. Like, what's Mike Tyson? Everybody has a plan for they get punched in the face. Yeah. I got punched the fucking. face and that's what happens. And if you see it that way, so to answer your question, acting is a little different because I'll go out there and warm up with the guy and then I'll get my body movement. I'm going to lay it out. And then you just lay it out. If it's a big time

director or you're reading with a big time actor, you're going to have a couple, you know, hiccups. We're human, man. That's supposed to be. But you pick it right up. You pick it right up. And if I have to shoot a scene, like that's why if I have to shoot a movie, I won't make plans after the movie. Why is that? Because I'll be thinking about the plans. Yeah, instead of. And then that last scene, I can't say the words out because I'm looking at the clock.

I'm in a rush thinking about what I got to do. So I eliminated that. There's all these things you learn to eliminate for you to feel comfortable on what you're doing. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And I know the feeling of that. So I know when I make plans for after the gym, when I do very, it's like, oh, I got to get out of here.

Right? but it's also like, I gotta get this shit done. I gotta train. Yeah. Yeah. So it's kind of weird. Like I said to you, I love being nervous. I love getting to a show and being confused.

I'll be fucked up. And him and none of these guys could tell. I'll just be sitting there. I'm going through my home fucking hell. You know, I bombed last time. Walt to go on stage. Maybe it's time you quit. You know, you got a pimple on your forehead,

you're fat. you get all this shit that people are saying to you. Nobody's saying it to you. It's your own mind. Fuck with you. And you have to learn how to balance that out too. Yeah. Are you nervous for him?

Like, as a friend, like, because when my boys fight, my heart's, like, yeah, that's why I can't go see my friends fight.

I can't. Are you nervous when he goes on stage? A little bit, a little bit. I'll go see the beginning of his set. And if he's got him, I'll walk away. I know he's got him.

I'm not checking like eight minutes later on. Yeah. But am I nervous from him? no, because I want him to do well. He's going up before me. I want to put my malook nervousness on him. What about you? That's the same?

For him, no. No, I could see it more. Like, if I have, like, some comics at my level and then if they have a big show, I'll be, like, excited for them. But I met Joey, and he was, you know, doing the, like, doing great shows. Like, to me, when I got, because I, I wasn't doing stand-up when I first met him. To me, the idea that he got nervous was surprising to me.

Because he was just, to me, like, he'd go up there and explode. I was like, oh, my, I didn't, the idea that he got nervous. Like, he did, he's not nervous. No, I, uh, I think it'd be more, because there's no, even if you bomb, it sucks, but it's going to be okay. Maybe, maybe for Netflix, I was like, nervous or excited for you. I was nervous. But, like, big, like, big stuff, like a special.

But, no, regular set. I'm excited to see him and I'm excited for him to do well but no I don't there's not that's why I think when you say you're like the this is scary to you

even I don't know it's just there's like it's not life or death I'm not gonna I might not lose an eye like like the fighting thing to me that that is just something that I can't even wrap my head around I'm getting you down to the gym

I gotta get you in there I have to I think it's just something. I need to convince you that it's okay. I need to do something. I don't know if I want to get punched in the face. No, no, none of that. I just want to get you to hit the bad.

Does it help with your lungs? Oh, yeah. I'm having some lung issues and I don't, I need, like this weekend has shown me, I need to figure out a way to get them stronger myself. Oh, yeah. So if boxing. I also got some supplements you could try for your lungs.

Very good stuff, like molene and stuff like that. Okay. Really good cortisol. Mushroom. Okay. Really good stuff. off of your lungs. It'll help flush out a lot of the stuff. Okay. Deal.

I would love to try it. I don't know. It's just very different. And it's weird to me. Because like, I don't know. I get, I get, I get, I don't really get nervous for shows anymore. But I haven't had like a special. I haven't had a TV taping. Auditions, I guess I get nervous for, but most of the time I just get like extra excited.

I'm just so, I'm just so pumped to go on stage. Well, the nervousness turns into energy. Yeah. Okay. Let me break it down for you. The two fighters on the main card, John Leonardo, boom, he comes out. He does this thing. He's fighting Nick Asquo.

He's from the Bronx. He comes out and does this thing. Awesome, they put your hands together. All right, guys, we're going to have a clean fight. Keep it above the waist. This three knockdown rule. You're ready, blah, blah, blah. You guys ready?

You're ready. Yeah. Now you go back to your ring. Right there, my mind is when I'm a boxer, I start. getting nervous. When does I go back to that ring? As soon as I go back to my corner and I got to do all that shit, I hate when the people put the camera on the box.

I would lose my mind if I'm about to fight and getting warmed up and all of a sudden this guy comes with a camera. I'm going to have a heart attack. My walk to the center of the ring is going to be nervous. But once either he throws or I throw, I'm in the game. I'm in the game. I'm slow. I'm retarded.

So you might have to hit me three times. I'm not to see a little blood. to really get your heart pumping. Right. And then you're in there. But that whole walk is the one that always interests me from shake hands and come out boxing. Once you turn around, there's no going back. They're no going back.

And that's the moment of truth. So those five steps is nervous energy. Just nervous energy. You're watching. But once you throw a punch and get out, like once I hit the microphone and I go, what's happening, you bad motherfuckers? Right. That's it.

Me saying bad motherfuckers took everything out of me. Now I could just dump. I'm ready. I guess when I hear nervous, I think it's like a negative thing, but maybe it's not negative. No. Okay, because, yeah, I'm a nervous person normally,

and that's a negative thing. How many people do look at what the sky just told you? This young man is a fuck. He had 60 amateur fights, 15 pro fights. He goes up against guerrillas every fucking day. What do he just tell you? He wouldn't go on stage if you fucking pay them. Because that's the most fearful thing in the world.

That's when shit falls apart for you. What happens to him on stage is when I go to a doctor and they show you a big needle. Right. I just fall apart inside. You just fall apart, you know? So that's the way you have to look at these things, man. It's energy, nervous, all turns into you being a fucking hathom.

Okay? You're driving down the street. Some guy cuts you off. He gives you the fucking finger. You're like, I need this. You know, you don't say nothing. You know the deal. He gets out of the car now.

and start saying you did this, you did that. Now you got to get out of the car. You're fucking nervous as fuck. You're in the middle of the street. Yeah. But once this guy does something and you get into it, you're not nervous anymore. It's like anything else.

You know, it's like anything else in life. We're all nervous. For anything, I got to, I'm fucking, he's fighting to eat. It's not just amateur fighting no more. Right. I'm fighting. I'm doing comedy to feed my daughters or my wife, you know.

So, this is it. This is how I feed my family. If you quit at any level, you weren't meant to do this anyway, and that's fine. You gave it a fucking try.

You couldn't deal with nerves. There's people I've known that quit comedy because they didn't want to travel. They did not want to go on the road. That that was an out for them. So they rearranged that comedy career to do a day job and then do comedy at night

to local clubs. Whatever works for you, man. People must quit boxing all the time. So it's crazy. He said that. So my father was in camp with Kevin Rooney and Teddy Alice, who trained Mike Tyson, both of them. My dad had an opportunity to stay up into Catskills in New York with them. My dad didn't want to leave Staten Island.

So he didn't. So he ended up retiring. My dad was 6'3 and 1 as a pro. He retired. And he just didn't want to move out of... He just didn't want to... do what was best for him to move forward. Because obviously training with the best trainers in the world at that time

would have moved him up. My dad was in the gym sparring with any Pazienza, who was a five-time world champion. I'm sure you've seen the movie bleed for this. He was the guy with the halo on his head. Yeah, my dad was in the gym with him. My dad was spar with Buddy McGirt. Top-level guys.

Buddy McGirt. Holy shit. Yeah, my dad was one of my dad's main sparring partners. Do you think he, does he regret it? Or is he happy? Was he... I think he's living through me. Okay.

Right? It's like, don't make the same mistakes that I did. You know what I mean? I don't... I do everything I have to do. The only thing is... We were just saying this

because I got injured right again like normal. He goes, you're the only kid who gets hurt constantly. I don't get it. He goes, I never got hurt. You know what I mean? You're sparring every day. It makes sense that you get hurt right now.

I mean, I guess. You know what I mean? I mean, I'm running. I hurt my knee. I'm sparring. I hurt my wrist. I'm lifting. I hurt my back.

I'm 26 years old. I know I do a lot of stuff, but like I'm always getting hurt. Always. So, but other than that, I don't do the stuff that he did. You know what I mean? Like, this guy just did crazy stuff always.

And that would go to the gym. So this guy would be out drinking and smoke and hanging with his friends and then show up to the gym. Oh, shit. You know what I mean? Like he's just, I don't do that stuff. I just go into gym.

What's it? Is it, how excited are you to quit your day job? And I'm not, I'm not trying to get you fired. I'm sure it's a great job. Oh, I love my day job. Yeah. I think even if I, even if I make it big, because this is something that the guys ask me on the job is,

I love my day job. I love it. I really do. I have a great job. I work for the township. I work for the sewer department. And I work with great dudes. Listen, when you work blue collar,

you make more friends than anything, right? And like these dudes, I'm fighting, they all buy tickets. They all come out to support. Like, it's like a family outside of, you know, my family. And I'm sure they're great. And I work a day job and they're very nice. But the idea, to me, I just daydream about the day that I can,

I'll make all of my money from stand up. And I won't have to, you know, you know, you won't have to wake up early to go work out and then go to the day. You can just focus entirely on one thing. You think, you think, and I'm, I don't know, I don't know why, but I'm big on usually if you make it big, I'm big on, like, when I make it big. So, like, when you make it big, you think you'll still do this job? Yeah, I think so.

Yeah. I mean, there's dudes who made it big, fought big fights, right? You look at Joe Smith Jr., right? You know who Joe Smith Jr. is? I know the name. He fought Bernard Hopkins. He's from Long Island, New York. this dude was a

I'm not sure if he worked for a private company or if it was union but he worked for the tree service so a dude would be cutting down trees it's a hard job I do some tree cutting out my job you know around the sewers to clear stuff up it's a hard it's a hard gig so that dude would do that all day

and then go to the gym and train this dude ends up becoming a two-time world champion for nights fights Bernard Hopkins pretty sure he still works you know what I mean it's like gets up goes to work made some money fight in, but what are you going to do all day?

You know? I don't know. I think in my head, even just with boxing, like you'd have more time to like maybe do treatment so you don't get injured or like you'd be able to travel around to different gyms or I don't just put more of your mental focus on it. Yeah.

And I, so before I worked this job, I did demo, but before that I didn't work at all. So I did all that. But now I have a job where like, Like I said, like I have enough time to make money working. I have a full pension.

I got benefits, which I need. Yeah, 26 years old. I got great insurance. I went to the doctor's office for an x-ray the other day. And no co-pay, nothing. That's beautiful. 26 years old to be like, hey, no issues. That's awesome.

And it's a blessing. So you can see you doing this the rest of your life and just boxing. Would you be like, let's say you went and we're able to fight for a world championship. Could you do that and do this day job? Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm not saying it's a, it's an easy job because it's not, you know, some days are lighter than others. But to get up, train and then, you know, run on lunch and then train again. I'm in at seven and I'm out at three, three 30. So it's like it's not a, it's not a long period of time. It's a, it's a short eight hours, you know what I mean? Right. You get a long enough lunch. It's a good gig. You got, you know,

people there that you want to chill with all day and it's it's cool you know what i mean who are the guys you looked up to like the guys you look at now boxing who's out there that you look up to like in the beginning i'm sure you like mahama ali or somebody else who are the guys you look up to i looked up to our torridor ogati you know god rest of the soul you know like one of the jersey legends one of the best right arthur o'addy um he had all those those three crazy fights with micky ward he fought floyd mayweather he fought like a lot of these guys and even some of the fights he would get whooped up in he showed heart he would show up there to fight you know and if you watch me fight i try to fight like him fight like

my dad these dudes who was like let's fight i'm not here to run i'm here to to fight in the center of the ring you know he said bena aflifton he's one of my favorites oh yeah yeah he's one of my favorites i got to meet him and he was fucking great on the best damn sports show but it was right after he beat the fuck out of Felix Trinidad. Oh, shit. Holy shit, man. He was, when I met him, he was about 40-something, and he was dropping some fucking wild knowledge.

Him and Anderson Silver. Two legends. Both have the same technique. They want to get home and look exactly how they did when they left the house. So most of their work is on fucking range and evasion and fucking, you know, and I like that type. of fighting. Nobody says you got to go up to him, beat the fuck out of somebody. You just got to go up there and slice them up a little bit.

But these guys, that's their attitude. We want to look. When we come home to our family, we want to look the same way we left. Yeah, I agree. Of course. That, you know, that's the way it is. And I'm sure you see me spar. You see me fight a little bit. And I like that toe-to-to-to-to action. I like to put on a performance. I sell tickets. People are going to get what they paid for. I guarantee it. You come see me fight. You give a fuck about the people.

Yeah. Yeah. Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong. Like, I have a family at home. But if you watch me fight, even on the inside, I have a technique where I don't get hit. And, you know, it's an old school technique. I watched a lot of guys like Roberto Duran.

Like, this dude would sit right in front of you and not get hit. Yeah. Right? Julio Cesar Chavez. I'm only seeing clips, but I'll lead, like, in fights. He just puts his hand and just does it. And the guy's, like, throwing 8,000 punches does it once. That was days of him once.

over, man. Like, that was just old school boxing, right? It's like, if a guy does this, I'm hitting him in his body. Oh, okay. Right. That's, it's just an older, old school time, you know? Right. Guys head hunting and, you know, looking for stuff like that. Those days are over, man. Boxing has evolved so much with the gloves, with the defense, with the rules. Like, there's, there's all this stuff now. So, and the politics, of course. So, it's a lot of stuff. And I don't, I don't want to speak for everyone who's listening and watching, but I didn't grow up with boxing. It just wasn't in my family.

But then UFC took off and I got into that. But like for anyone who's like watching and maybe like has watched a lot of UFC but hasn't really got into boxing, like what is it about like how do you sell box? Like why would, how can you get like new fans? Like why would you, what would you tell people who might not watch boxing? Well, the biggest thing I would say is, right?

Like how does everyone get their name out today? It's social media. It's Instagram. You see all these dudes making crazy videos, right? They got that one kid, right? I'm sure you've seen him. He's like, you know, day one, I'm going to fight my followers, right? Like now he's doing it.

He's like doing it with like Jake Paul, Logan Paul, these big name guys. I'm sure you guys seen it. throws the gloves down on the ground and they, he's dressed up as like, you know, different characters. is, you know, it's like, how did that dude get so big? He just kept making videos. So that's important for you too? Yeah, I think that's, I think that's very important. I think it's very important for all of us in this industry of entertainment, right?

Because that's what boxing is. It's not, it's a sport, but it's entertainment. You know, anything where you're selling tickets for someone to come watch it, you know. And are you, are you aiming for a specific promotion or? You know, right now I'm a free agent. My dad's my trainer and manager. And when something big comes through, you know, hopefully, uh, me and him will discuss it and we could get signed by somebody.

That would be so, what about the Olympics? Yeah, that was, that was never a dream of mine. No? Yeah, it's never a goal of mine. I think the goal is just to turn pro and to win a world title. That was my real goals. That, because like in, uh, the U.S., the, um, the amateurs do the Olympics, not the professionals.

So that's like the last stage before you turn, uh, before, uh, before. you turn pro. Like the high-level amateurs will do the Olympics and then turn pro after that. Oh, I thought, I thought Olympics you could be pro now. You can't, it's still only amateurs? I don't, I'm not sure if they changed it, but okay. I think this last Olympics they just did was all amateur still. Oh, okay.

Yeah. So, it's never, never a goal of mine. What was your, what is your primary goal today? My primary goal is to win a world title at 122 pounds. What's the difference between you and Ryan Garcia? What's the difference between us? he's huge he's like

so what did he just fight I think he fought his last fight either 147 or 154 his last fight now he's getting ready to fight Chris Eubank or not Chris Eubank Connor Bend that's going to be a big fight

so I'm not sure what weight they're going to fight at because they're big dudes that's like six weight classes heavier than me 150 he still gets blown over by the wind yeah no he's pretty big actually

Is he big? I never seen a big guy. He used to go to a comedy store. I didn't see him at night when I would be there. But I like his videos. I like how he fucking. And that's how he blew up, right? Social media.

He was on there hitting the double end bag and doing all this fancy stuff. And he blew up on Instagram, blew up on TikTok. He did all these big things, you know. It's fucking wild what the internet does now. It was just a time. But if you wanted fans, he just won. Yeah. Keep winning.

The word gets out. He's 80 and no. now people want to go because now at that point people want to see you get knocked out when you're 8 no yeah and then you're 9 and 0 then you're 10 and oh and now they're like all right this guy's fucking serious you know yeah but now everything's social media as long as you have the gana's to back all your fucking videos

that you make you know what good is it going in the ring if you're gonna have a fucking beat up to oh I I do love that whenever like there's a few videos of like you know like the press tours and like one guy's talking shit and being a real dick. And like the other guy's just being real quiet and they like this big showboat and then they get into the ring.

And then the guy who hasn't said shit beats the other guy. That's my favorite. And if you can't answer this, that's fine. But you're like we were talking earlier. I'm featuring most of the time. It means I'm like second out of three before the big guys. And I'll make a hot at a club.

The club pays me $100 a show. What like for a, a boxer of your level. What do you expect to make? Average. At a boxer on my level, it honestly depends, right? So like, there's a bunch of promotions. You could get a phone call, right?

At my level, I had gotten a phone call to go to Japan two years ago to fight this guy that Floyd Mayweather did an exhibition again. So this dude was like a multiple time, world the kickboxing champion.

Right? So they send it to me, right? He's 3 and O in boxing. They go, oh, you're interested to flying out to Japan for this fight. The guy's 3 and 0. So I look him up. I go, yeah, but he's like 60 and 0 kickboxing. They're like, oh, so what? What do you mean so what?

This dude's technically like 63 and 0. Anyway, another guy that I know took the fight. It happened to be like a $100,000 fight. So at my level, you could get a local show where it's like, you know, you start at $2,000. all the way up to 15 grand, depending on how you do with tickets, or you could get a call like that where it's some bigger money. And now, let's say you go there and I beat that guy,

my next fight could be a million dollars, you know? Wow. Okay. Yeah. So like ticket sales impact your pay? Yeah. Ticket sales impact your pay. So depending on the promotion you work with,

you can make a deal where it's like, hey, you're going to get a flat paycheck. and then if you sell this amount of tickets, I'll give you a percentage out of it, which is great. I love that. I got a great promoter I work with. I work with Boxing Insider.

He pays me very well. He loves that I sell tickets. He loves my personality. He loves me and my dad. He's like, I want to work with you guys. I think I can help you. Great guy.

There's not a lot of promoters that are going to do that for you. You know what I mean? A lot of guys want to, you know, they want to hold the money. They don't want to give it to you. They're selling tickets to make money. They don't want to pay you that much.

You know what I mean? That's pretty ballsy to fuck with a professional boxer. And there's, like, if someone's going to stiff me, what am I going to do about it? If someone's going to stiff, you could punch them in the face. Yeah, I mean, that's true. But then you got the reputation of punching promoters in the face. And that ain't that good. There's guys, there's some fighters that promoters don't want to work with because they're crazy.

Bro, no one wants to deal with that shit. They're like, I'm going to have this guy on my card and it's going to be a problem. You know what I mean? Not even if they're getting paid, it's still a problem. Some guys just have a problem with everything. Really? You know how that is. It's just problem, child. They're around. You know what I mean?

No, it's crazy, Lee, that I didn't box growing up. I enjoyed, I was a criminal. I enjoyed boxing. I enjoyed the era that I got into. And when I was, I don't know, 40-something, I was 400 pounds. I had to lose weight. And I shot a boxing video for Showtime. Oh, yeah? It was like some stupid promotion. I played one of the trainers.

And fucking, the dude who played the kid who played the main trainer was a real-time trainer. And we did the video at, what's his name, Spot? Oh, Fortune. Spot, Wild Card. Fortune. Oh. So it's pretty interesting.

I'd never been in there. But on the way out, the dude told me, his name was Macafoli, rest in peace. And he goes, I think you should start coming to see me. I'm not going to kill you. I'll pay you, just pay me 20 bucks a session. I don't know about that. He goes, just do it. Come by and see me.

If you don't have money, come by anyway. And what happened was at that time, the guy who trains Ryan Garcia now, his strength and conditioning coach, his name is Justin Fortune. It was Justin and Naka worked for Pachial. They got into an argument over money, and they left and opened up their own gym. And dog, I learned a lot of shit in there. I learned that boxing was a science. I saw a lot of guerrillas coming there, and guys like you just put them away.

I loved when guys are coming with tattoos and fucking bracelets and shackles and the, uh, uh, and all of a sudden they would bother Justin, because they were like actors. We had one primary actor from CSI, the old CSI. He was a white kid fucking dick.

Wouldn't talk to nobody. But Paramount was paying Justin 400 an hour to train him. Wow. So Justin would train him. This went on for about two months, and every time I was leaving, I would hear him say, Justin, come on, put me in there. I can fuck these guys up.

And Justin would be like, bro, you threw two punches. I'll see your side. You know what I'm saying? Now, you want to be a boxing? The guy's like, yeah, I could do it. He'd come in every day, $800 gloves, the best of everything. And finally, Justin put him in there one day. Took the guy like 10 seconds to fucking.

Guy picked up his boxing gloves, picked up his bag, and never came back. Fucking hilarious. really think like yeah oh yeah head yeah you know what it is about being a fighter is a lot of people who haven't get hit so this we're going back to some of this stuff you said a lot of people who haven't gotten hit when you get hit you get rattled you get rattle when you're a fighter that rattle feeling is not there because you do that shit every single day that rattling feeling for you to rattle me you got to hit me with a bat when I'm not looking because for you to really rock me you really got to, you really got to rock me.

Because every single day I'm getting hit, getting hit, getting hit. It's like, it's like nothing to me. Where's the worst place to get hit? Bodyhead. Oh, wow. Getting hit in the body. Yeah. Oh, man.

That's worse? That's why they call me body shot, man. Oh, that's your name? That's my fight nickname, John Body Shot. He's a body shot type of motherfucker. Like what, the liver? Like, what's the liver? Yeah.

What does it feel? I've, dude, I've lived my whole life purposely to never. know what that feels like what is that it just shuts down your body yeah it shuts it down Lee you can't think you can't see the best place is the floor yeah yeah yeah yeah he's right the best place is the floor just stay there

don't worry about nothing yeah yeah is it wasn't getting hitting the balls oh my god oh my god yeah you like he said your whole system shuts down like you could get hit in the head you see guys get up right you've seen um we're me and Frankie we're talking about on his podcast we're

talking about Deonte Wilder and Tyson Fury. When he got up, everybody was like, yo, what the fuck? This dude, you hit someone in the body most of the time, they're not getting up. They have to think about it for two or three minutes. Yeah. And that's when you do the rest of your punching while they're thinking. And I got six knockouts, five of them are from the body shot.

And is it? Because when I think knockout, I think that means I'm like passed out and the birds are going. Like knockout just means you're like, you're just down and you don't get up. You ain't getting up. Yeah, you ain't getting up. And the birds are going around you. Yeah, they're going around you. And they're laughing at you, you fucking bum.

Holy shit. It's not like in the movies where they whistle and shit like that. They're mocking you. Oh, my God. It's just crazy how when I learned it was a science and made my life that much better. And to even get more deeper, we're all artists. You're a boxer, but you're an artist. Yep.

Okay, and when you look at an art, you can see that they're all kind of the same. They all start in the middle. Whether you're talking about jih Tzu stand up, there's something that correlates, something I tell people, you can learn a thousand ways to throw jazz, right? You could teach me a couple different ways to throw a jazz. There's not just one way. That's why it's an art. There's a couple different ways to me to get it.

It's how I set it up. What do I do with comedy? I got a great joke. How do I set it up? Right. Same thing, guys. It's the same fucking thing when you're an artist. George is fucked up as he looks.

He's an artist. Leave George alone in the room, put the Yankee game on, get cigarettes, a soda, and watch them fucking cut those frames and watch them. They're artists. I don't know much about framing, but I'm sure at one point they'll say to me something similar. I see that with boxing, with comedies.

same thing. We're covering up. We throw a joke and then we cover up and shit. Then you throw two more joke. It's the same thing. It's all the same. It's all an art. And once you digest that and makes your life so much easier, listen, when people you say to me, you're an artist, they say, you know what, you're a cunt. I hate being called an artist. But after like 20 years, that's what we are. Because everybody has a different way of doing the same fucking thing. That's an art. There's a thousand ways. to throw a liver punch. I might set it up with a one two.

I might set up with a one uppercut and then that left. So his hands are already up. It's, bro, it's a fucking science. You can weigh 100 pounds and beat the fuck out of 200 pound people with quickness. It's a science. Yep. It's all about,

you don't know where to land that punch. Is it, I don't know if it wants to say harder. But when you're talking about like the heavyweights, like they're, in theory, they're stronger than you. Oh, yeah. Like, is it harder?

Like, are you more technical at your weight than the big guys? No, there's technical guys than every weight. That's, you know. He can move, though, compared to a heavy weight. Yeah. Yeah. But then if you look at, like, a guy like Tyson Fieri, right, he can move. He can move.

He can move really good. I think there's really good fighters and there's really good athletes at every single weight class. Right, we're not talking about being out in the street, right? Because if I got to get into a ring with a heavyweight, when a guy knows how to fight, done. Right, if you're out on the street and you get a guy who doesn't know how to fight,

most likely you're going to get rid of them. You know what I mean? Right. Because as a pro fighter, you're in condition. I'm in a condition to exhaust you. Right? When I mess around my buddies at work, I tell them it'll only take me 30 seconds to exhaust you.

All they do is faint you a couple times, go like this. As soon as you're exhausted, I'm going to step in and I'm going to hurt you. That's going to be it. And you're a very nice person. I'm sure you're going to say no. You're a very nice.

But if I had the skills that you had, I'd be walking around looking for a fight. I'd love to. Like, I got into an altercation on a plane a couple weeks ago. If I, if I was a boxer, I would have been like, oh, please, please hit me first. Like, does any part of you like, no, you never have a bad day? I'd be like, oh, I want to punch somebody. He's a super villain. There's no doubt my mind.

I'm bringing you to the gym. I want to set you up at your next show. I want someone to take the swing and I want you to finish it. I want to see it. Dude, if I knock somebody out, that would be the happiest. Dude, there's people, and I'm not an angry person,

but there's, I've had like, I don't know if you guys have ever had it. Like, if I lose my job, if I lose everything, I have like a, let's be a couple,

a list of like two, three people. Let's go shoot them before things. Like, oh, if there's a few people that if you taught me how to punch and I can,

like, if I felt confident, I would love that. We're going to set up this fight for you. Let's do it. Let's do it. A little celebrity fight. You could fight Ray J.

Yeah. Did you watch it? I saw the little nod on his head. He got knocked out. He's like, man, it was fixed. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, he got on the mic like, oh, man, why'd you do me like that?

Everyone's like, you know what I mean? And the guy tortured him. That MC tortured him. You're a lot. He said a bunch of stuff to him. Well, brother, I'm happy you took the time out. It's really great to talk. to you. Like I said, I'm friends with your mom, dad, I love them all. Your mom always says hello

to me whenever I see you. And July, June 13th, where at the Tropicanana? Sir. How do they get tickets? I sell tickets by hand. You could always DM me on Instagram. It's ad official John Leonardo. Or you could go on to the website, Boxing Insider's website and buy tickets right from there. But it's better if they buy it from you? Better than you buy it from me. There you go. He takes a skim off top. Where are you at this weekend? This weekend, I'm with Jessyme, Paluso, Nyack, Levity Live, one Friday, two Saturday. That's it, just three shows?

There's three shows. Go to Lysa.com for all my shows. I'm going a lot of places this summer. I got nothing. August 7th and 8th, Oceans in Atlantic City. That's what we're starting off. I'm healing well, so I have some better dates in June and July. I want to run a residency up in Brooklyn.

Nice. Like every Wednesday for a month or something, you know? So that's why I'm looking. going to do just something because I can't perform in New Jersey. So that's what I'm telling you, motherfuckers. Have a great week. Thank you. Don't forget to get John Leonardo tickets.

If you're in Jersey, support. He's another Jersey boy. So give him what you got. We only have each other with blue collar motherfuckers in Jersey. So Lee, everything good. Everything is great. Everything good, John? Yes, sir.

I love you, brother. Thank you very much. I love you, brother. I love you guys. Same bad time. Same bad channel. I'll see you next week. And remember,

Let them all suck your dick.