Uncover - S2 "Bomb On Board" E6: Full Circle
Episode Date: November 12, 2018Ian and Jo weigh all the evidence, and Didi returns a ring that went missing on July 8, 1965. For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/uncover/uncover-season-2-bomb-on-b...oard-transcripts-listen-1.5129876
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2,500 steps to go.
So we are
at the
100 Mile House Visitor Center,
and this is also the location of the CP21 crash memorial.
Okay, let's go.
This is a beautiful memorial just on the edge of this lake
with a fountain in the background, and there are flowers that are there.
And the names of the 52 people who died.
So as we walk towards it, what are you thinking?
I'm sort of taken aback by the beautiful scene and almost sort of the simplicity of it.
There is something about seeing it, though, for the first time.
of it. There is something about seeing it though for the first time, you know, the first sign of this community
remembering as a community
this crash. One of the things I was thinking is that the names here
are divided into two, into the crew
the three pilots and as they
described them at the time, stewardesses and steward, the passengers,
but also, you know, there's a third category, right,
that's not separated here,
and it's the four people that were identified as suspects.
And so there are those names too, right,
beside all the other names.
And so I thought that was kind of striking.
Also the ages, right? Ranging from 77 to 2 to one little boy, I think, described as an infant.
I've only read these names in alphabetical order in the manifest, in the RCMP reports.
And to see them here, honoured, is a totally different way to read someone's name
and yeah, all of these names stick out to me.
Here's a sign off to the left, a plaque.
CP Air Flight 21 crashed en route from Vancouver, BC
to Whitehorse, Yukon, taking the lives of all 52 on board.
An inquest determined the explosion was a result of a bomb,
the source of which was never determined.
We recognize and honor the heroic actions
of the many people involved in the recovery efforts.
Their courage and compassion are remembered here today.
And I don't know where this quote comes from.
We'll have to look it up.
But at the bottom, rest a weary traveler,
for with the dawn comes great joy.
I'm Ian Hanamansing.
And I'm Johanna Wagstaff.
And this is Uncover, Bomb on Board.
Investigating one of the biggest unsolved mass murders on Canadian soil,
the crash of CP Flight 21.
The final chapter.
Good evening.
A Canadian Pacific airliner has crashed in rugged country in the Caribou district of British Columbia.
There were apparently no survivors.
The chief RCMP investigator named the three Steve Kolazar.
We can exclude him in large part because his history of violence is exculpatory given what we see.
Edgar.
My parents had plans for the future.
And that's not a man who is going to go out and kill himself or 51 other people.
And Peter Bruce Broughton.
He is the prime suspect based on what we know about how these guys operate.
The most likely suspect is a man named Paul David Vandermuller.
The individual psychiatrist referred to him as a person who shows a deep madness towards the world, capable of violent, irrational acts.
This is a small piece of a ring.
I would like somebody to have to pay for all those wonderful people who lost their lives.
We were told nothing.
I think for all the families of the people that were lost in that aircraft,
it would be nice to have an end.
As we get to the end of our investigation, this is a good time to look back at what we set out to do.
Tell the story about an important moment in history that many people have never heard of.
An aviation tragedy and a complex cold case.
It's not just a story to us. This is something that
drastically affected many, many families.
More than seven months after Joe and I started working on this story,
we're ready to go through our results.
All the digging through the archives, speaking with families and first responders,
it's allowed us to shed light on the original case.
And it's given us the ability to look at all of the evidence with 21st century eyes.
So, first off, we've eliminated the theory of the fifth man.
The fifth man, our shorthand for any suspect who was not on the plane when it crashed.
This includes the, quote, disgruntled pilot,
or the man with a moon-shaped face that a cleaner said she saw.
The experts are certain that the bomb was placed
right in the middle of the bathroom floor when it went off.
And so, Joe, it is almost impossible to imagine
that somebody would have put the bomb there in plain sight
just before the flight took off and just left it there.
There were so many other better spots
for someone not on the plane to leave the bomb.
So ultimately, we're confident
whoever placed the bomb on the plane was on the plane.
Which leaves us with four men.
And we should point out that we have reviewed the police file on all 52 people on board,
and we don't see any other potential suspect on that list.
We gathered all of our documents together, literally shut ourselves in a room, and went through everything we know.
So we have the four suspects up here on the wall with their pictures, all of the information.
We were moving around a lot, which is why some of the audio might sound a little off.
Edgar, Vandermuelen, Broughton, Kolizar. So let's start with Kolizar.
Stephen Kolizar, the man with the criminal past.
This was the man who had a history of violent crimes. At first, I thought that's what
made him a strong suspect. But on top of that, he worked with explosives for a living. He has quite
the record. Well, in the sort of criminal code language of the time, the criminal record is for
assault, what was then known as carnal knowledge, intimidation. Colazar's criminal record stretched
from his 20s to his 40s.
But Mike Arnfield, the criminologist, pointed out the kind of violence we see from Colazar
is mostly what he describes as reactionary.
A fight, for example, not a premeditated act.
His history of violence is exculpatory given what we see in the bombing.
He's got a history of hot-blooded violence.
You could say reactive violence.
So he definitely had a bad temper. But according to his boss,
Colazar was a conscientious worker. He was safety conscious when it
came to explosives. Mike also points out that at the age of
54, Colazar doesn't fit the profile of most mass
murderers who were younger. Right, so he had the opportunity and means, but where we got stuck on him was
he was found at the front of the plane, which is far
away from the bomb, just to be noted. And he had an insurance and modest pension,
but that was all from work. He didn't take anything out before the flight. And we know from
an RCMP report that at one point, police say there
was no evidence that he placed the bomb on the plane.
Based on our investigation and analysis,
we're confident we can rule him out as a suspect.
So we exclude Stephen Colazar.
Yeah.
Which leaves us with three.
Douglas Edgar, Paul van der Meulen,
and Peter Broughton.
We know this process is going to be hard for the suspects' families.
But maybe we can help shed some light on why their loved ones were identified in the first place.
Because one big takeaway for me, from all the families we spoke to to was how little they were told by police.
And even if they don't agree, maybe they can see for the first time why RCMP couldn't eliminate them. Let's go right to Edgar. Douglas Edgar. So Douglas Edgar first sort of caught the attention
of headlines as well as RCMP because he took out a large life insurance at the airport
before he boarded. He also, when we're looking at his profile, has a history of gambling,
him being on that flight without a job to head to, but especially the fact that he took out
a fairly large life insurance, one that equaled a million dollars, is what put him on the RCMP
list to begin with. But the woman who sold him the insurance, like to me, this is a big point.
I know you were really stuck on this point.
Because think about it.
Even after the crash, when investigators came to her and said, okay, you sold us insurance
to this guy and you're thinking to yourself, okay, I know what happened in that plane crash.
I know I saw this guy one hour before.
I know he bought a lot of it.
Was there anything about him that makes me rethink how I felt at that point?
There was nothing.
I mean, she described him as, you know, just it was an ordinary transaction.
If there's anything she remembered, it was how tender I think it was.
He was towards his daughter, Leah.
So for me, the analysis of our cold case expert,
Mike Arnfield, is persuasive here.
That altruism, Edgar killing himself
to give his family money,
it's just not a strong enough motive for mass murder
unless there's some other factor like anger or revenge.
And we do know plane bombings happen where insurance was reported as the motive, but we have no idea if that was the
only factor in those cases. And remember that Edgar's the only suspect whose state of mind at
the airport was described by someone who's not a relative, the woman who sold him insurance,
who didn't see anything suspicious in his demeanor. So that's the main reason why he
eliminated Edgar, is because he didn't have motive? So the only thing that points to Edgar
as being a suspect here is buying this unusually large life insurance policy, right? So without
that, he wouldn't be a suspect at all. Also, Mike pointed out Edgar was a gambler.
He was used to bluffing and deceiving other players.
So if he was the culprit here, he would likely have bought the insurance long in advance
to be more discreet.
I just have a heart.
And I know it's tough because I know, you know, Leah's probably listening.
And so to be unable to say that I can't take him off the suspect list
for the reasons that the RCMP put him on there in the first place.
That's why I have to rest on the insurance
and how little he was carrying on the plane
and how little we know of why he was on the plane.
These are the only facts we have.
And while on its own, it's absolutely not enough to say he did it, but it is enough to
remain a possible motive, just as it was a possible motive in those other three plane attacks,
and to keep Edgar as a possible suspect. Okay, Jo, so we disagree on Douglas Edgar. I would
eliminate him. You'd keep him on the suspect list. And now we're down to Peter Broughton,
the gunpowder guy,
and Paul Vandermuelen, the American prospector. Right. So Vandermuelen was carrying a gun. We
can't confirm if it was loaded or if it was in fact on him or if it was in his luggage. Then
there's the family lore. A distant relative who says his ex-wife described Vandermuelen as someone
who could have blown up a plane. I mean,
that's hardly proof of his state of mind, but a strange thing for a family member to say.
And perhaps most intriguing is his mental state. So there's this line in the police reports from
a psychiatrist who said he had a deep madness towards the world. We weren't sure how to take
that line. Well, and I still don't know how to take that line, right? Like that is an incredibly provocative line. It is. That phrase, a deep
madness towards the world, is for me anyway, frustrating because it doesn't come with any
further explanation. The clinical psychologist we spoke with, Michael Woodworth, also said that he
wishes that he had more context. Really, we don't know
what it means. Well, and it's funny because that really caught my attention and speaking to
other experts, including the UBC psychologist, that was notable to him, that wording. Then when
I asked Mike about Vandermuelen, I mean, when we had, when we first found these bits of copper in
his body, added to the insurance, added to this line about deep madness.
And I was, you know, I was excited to tell Mike,
have you seen all this stuff on Vandermuelen?
And he, you know, kind of discredited that immediately saying,
oh, well, deep madness to the world was a term
they would have just thrown around in the 60s.
Then there's the other red flag, the insurance.
He paid a lot for the premium.
He bought it two months before the crash.
So maybe that makes us suspicious.
But on the other hand, he was heading into the backcountry. And so perhaps he just wanted to
make sure his family would be cared for if something bad happened. Okay, this is the big
one for me, though. Van der Muelen is the only person who had copper found in his body, and
copper was not part of the plane.
We do know that copper is found in blasting caps,
which may or may not have been used in this bomb.
Those are the forensic facts that we have,
and that's why I can't take him off the list.
Our experts have said that the bomber likely would have been right where the bomb was or very near it when it went off,
and that has been the case in those other situations
where someone was a bomber on a plane,
that the most likely suspect had the most damaged body.
But here's yet another puzzling thing about this case.
None of the suspects had the kind of trauma
that would show us that their body was where the bomb was.
So at this point, we've eliminated one suspect, Stephen Colazar.
We disagree on a second suspect, Douglas Edgar, who I eliminate and you don't.
And we both agree that Paul Vandermuelen remains a suspect.
Yes.
Okay, so now we go to the last in that list of four.
How does Paul Vandermuelen compare with Peter Broughton?
So finally, Peter Broughton.
Peter Broughton, who raised the suspicion of investigators
because of his connection to gunpowder.
They went into his room,
and he has lots of containers of gunpowder.
He was an avid shooter.
For Paul Vandermuelen, it's his mental condition
and the insurance premium that puts him near the top of the list.
For Peter Broughton, it's his connection to gunpowder.
Well, as we've quickly learned, gunpowder is complicated.
There are many different kinds,
and there are various theories around gunpowder
and the explosion that happened on the plane. Black gunpowder was well as dynamite.
Those are the ones you heard.
We also tried double-base smokeless gunpowder.
It was also tested by the RCMP,
and it too caused a massive explosion.
But we don't know if Broughton ever owned this kind of powder.
The kind police found in his home was a single-base smokeless powder,
which has a different chemical makeup.
And it wouldn't have caused the same kind of explosion.
But he also had a book in his room on how to make various types of gunpowder.
It's hard to say he was a loner, therefore he's a bomber.
He took out insurance, therefore he's a bomber.
He has mental instability, therefore, I mean, none of these motives hold up on their, any of these motives hold up on their own.
If Cy Leyland was right, Broughton was the RCMP's top suspect. He's Mike Arnfield's too. But I disagree with Mike on
how we should analyze some of the data. For example, whether authorities had evidence that
Broughton was suicidal. A doctor does say, quote, a youth such as Broughton who kept to himself and
kept everything to himself would
likely commit suicide in this manner to get attention. But here's the thing, what does a
youth such as Broughton mean? Is it that he's a loner with no apparent intimate relationships
and that he told a friend that he would get into fights when he was drinking and he would lose
those fights? Or was the doctor echoing the
suspicions police had that Broughton was gay? And if that's the case, was the doctor linking
sexual orientation to a greater likelihood of seeking attention by planning a bomb? That link,
obviously, in 2018, we would reject. In a way, Vanermuelen's motives, well, his profile and means
may not,
and evidence around him
may not be as strong
as Broughton.
So Broughton and Vandermuelen
both have compelling reasons
why police first listed them
as suspects.
As far as motives go,
though,
I keep coming back
to Vandermuelen.
To me,
his motives make more sense
than Broughton's.
Totally.
I mean,
if you look at possible motives
for Broughton,
so...
There's no motive for Broughton. I mean, suicide. Did you look at possible motives for Broughton. There's no motive
for Broughton. I mean, suicide. You'd have to be homicidal to think that the best way to kill
yourself was to kill an entire plane. Notoriety. I mean, that was an interesting one because he was
found at the front of the plane. There was some suggestion, especially when we were testing
some of the fuses and the length of time it would take. There was some suggestion, well,
maybe he didn't think the explosion was going to be that big,
and he just wanted some notoriety.
So the evidence on motive is stronger for Vandermuelen than Broughton.
For Broughton, it's more about the potential means.
Gunpowder.
I think the gunpowder connection is very interesting.
The room that he stayed in was six blocks away from my home right and so when i saw
that yeah when i saw that address i walked to where he lived and i stood outside the house
the house is still there no it's it's it's it's a it's a different little house now but uh but but
it's where he lived and i was looking at that and I remember thinking, this guy, like this guy who
at that point, we hadn't found a relative of his. No one was speaking on his behalf.
Cy Leyland was saying that the investigators at the time thought he was the guy who did it. And
it just didn't make sense that he did it, right? Wouldn't he have left some kind of mark or a note?
And then the other ones, anger and accidental.
I mean, we kind of went through the testing,
and RCMP initially went through,
was there any way that powder could have been lit accidentally?
And that is highly unlikely.
So the last one we're left with is anger.
And I don't know if that's enough to just be angry at the world.
No, I mean, he, I agree.
His sister says Broughton played
with her young children at the airport
and also noticed the two little Norwegian children.
Was this really a man who was an hour away
from killing those kids
and the other people on the plane?
And again, we struggle with the motive
for mass murder.
After going through all of our documents,
there just isn't enough to take any of these men off our list.
Police did a thorough investigation,
and how is it that not a single piece of incriminating evidence was ever found?
They stuck probes into backyards.
They confiscated belongings.
They seized bank and medical records, interviewed friends.
Did somebody hide something?
Maybe someone might remember something they never disclosed to the police.
These families have spent hours with us,
telling us their stories, sharing their memories
about a traumatic moment in their lives.
And we want to be able to give them answers and to get it right.
Especially for Dee Dee Henderson,
one of the first people we met when we started our investigation,
and her father, Wallace.
When I was a child, I used to think about my dad in heaven
because my lovely nanny would say he was there looking down on us.
I saw my dad in the stars.
I saw him in the twinkling lights of the cross on Mount Royal.
I talked to him when I looked out the window
and saw these lights in the night sky.
That was then.
And now I'm kind of reflecting in some new ways
having gone down this path for years
learning and discovering about the crash
I'm wondering now
how I feel about my dad
and what his thoughts would be around this.
Someone asked me a compelling question.
What would I say to him if I could?
I can't help but wonder if there was some point to all this research and trying to understand if deep down there was a need to know and in some way vindicate by uncovering or knowing who did this.
I don't know if there are souls out there wandering with unrest because all connected to in a way that things will feel more put right by the knowing that's amazing so dad i don't talk to you anymore like I used to when I was little but I think it will matter in big and small ways
to all of us who are left behind
to know and understand what happened better
but if in some way, on some level
this means something to you
it will have made it all worthwhile. If there's an ending,
if there's a conclusion, if there's any peace to be had, I want it and I hope you get some too.
We've been hearing from listeners since we launched this podcast,
sharing memories, sharing rumors,
but so far, no one's been in touch with that key missing link.
No manifesto, no suicide note, no concrete evidence.
Unless someone comes forward with something new, we may never know what happened on that flight. The time to come forward is now.
I'm going to read the list of passengers. Alexander Bruce Anderson, 18. Carl Wilheim Berg, 45.
John Keith M. Eady, 46.
Edna Phyllis Eady, 42.
Douglas Garfield Edgar, 40.
Wallace Brooks Emo, 33.
Seeing the name of her father, Wallace, who we know was known as Wally,
and I know his face now.
I can meet Wally. I mean, I feel like we had a lot in common.
He had a geology background, he loved skiing.
When we first went to 100 Mile House, Didi was so welcoming.
She put out those red flowers so we wouldn't miss
her driveway, put on a pot of tea. We've been keeping in touch ever since. It's already been
snowing in 100 Mile House, but before it gets too deep, Didi tells us she's made another trip
out to the crash site to return some of the parts of the plane that people have given her over the years.
You know one of the things about this memorial
I was thinking earlier today is that it represents not just a memorial to this crash, but it also
represents community. Hello? Hi, Didi. It's Carl calling. Hi, Carl. How are you doing? Carl Covello lost both of his parents in the bombing of CP21.
He first met DeeDee Henderson in 2004 when he paid a visit to Hundred Mile House with his son, Joel.
Yeah, I remember he was pretty young and so were we. I came across some pictures the other day.
Joel, I think he would have been 11 years old at that time.
You were kind enough to take the day off from your clothing store and take Joel and I out there.
I think you and Joel were some of the first people I took out that I'd never met before.
Since that first visit, when Didi took them out to the crash site, Didi and Carl have mainly kept in touch by email.
I remember talking to Joel, saying that,
well, Joel, I think we should leave something at the site.
And he decided to leave this little model of a die-cast airplane.
A model toy airplane nestled under the trees.
Joe, did you see this?
I did.
A little toy plane?
Last time, I just kind of vocalized, well, I hope it's still there.
Well, I can answer that question.
It is.
Joel's little plane is sitting nestled in the rocks and moss and as bright as ever.
You can let him know it is there.
Oh, that's wonderful.
I think that's significant.
I think people need a place to go to to remember. Oh, that's wonderful.
Carl's parents, Thomas and Dorothy Covello, were on CP21 because they were headed to a funeral.
Dorothy's brother died in an accident just a few days before.
Carl and his three brothers became orphans, and the four of them had to leave their home in Winnipeg and were split up to live with relatives in Ontario.
Time goes by, but this story just keeps being a part of our lives, doesn't it?
Yes, it does.
Yeah.
Well, I've always appreciated our correspondence
and the thoughtful way you think about all that's happened over the years.
And it's been great to sort of get to know you via this.
Yeah, likewise, you're the first person that I had met outside of my own family, outside of my brother's, that had lost a loved one in the crash.
So virtually no preamble is required.
You know, right away you sense a
connection that you just, you know, you can speak quite openly. Absolutely. And I think that
that was a revelation to me when we had the very first memorial, because up till then it had been
sort of my loss, my sister's loss, my family's loss, and I couldn't even fathom beyond that.
But then when you meet other people and hear their stories, there is definitely something we share, and that is a bond.
Because if you haven't experienced this, you can try to imagine, but you can't.
But you'd be welcome here anytime, you know that I'm sure,
and hope that you get out here again sometime before the forest swallows up everything.
Yeah.
The forest is slowly reclaiming what's left of CP21.
But Didi and many other families of victims
want to make sure the site is kept as a memorial
so future generations have a place to come and pay their respects.
Didi's been worried about the threat of clear-cutting
after she found flagging tape on some of the trees in the area by the crash site.
Since then, she's been speaking with the logging company, which
she says has agreed to not do any harvesting in the area.
She's also working to get the site protected under the Heritage Act.
It's emotional. It's emotional 53 years later.
Just the fact that it is a site
that needs to be respected
and we hope that that can continue.
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So I started a podcast called On Drugs.
We covered a lot of ground over two seasons,
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Hello? Hi, Didi. It's Johanna calling. Hi, Johanna. Nice to hear from you. Nice to hear from you as
well. Is this a good time to chat still? Yes, actually, it's perfect. I'm sitting on the porch
with that lovely view that you know now. In addition to trying to find answers about what happened on that plane,
we've also been looking into something else,
a piece of unfinished business that we want to tell Didi
before we wrap up our investigation.
We do have an update for you.
We have, yes, we have found someone who is the nephew
of Joseph Ronald McClellan, the initials of the ring that you
wear around your neck. Wow. Yes. That's amazing. So you've been in touch with this person?
Yeah. So I just, yeah, I wanted to tell you a little bit about him and, you know,
maybe give you some time to think about it. His name is Gary McClellan. He is the son of Joseph's brother and he lives actually on
Salt Spring Island. And I spoke to him on the phone and he's a really nice man.
There they are. Does she have the Prius? She's got the Prius.
Yes, top electric.
Hi!
How are you?
Good, how are you?
Welcome.
How are you?
We are on Salt Spring Island going to meet Gary, who is a complete stranger to me.
The reason we're doing this has to do with something I'm wearing on a chain around my neck.
It was originally a ring that was taken from the crash site.
And so I did some research when we sort of narrowed down who we thought it belonged to
and could not find any known relatives or any way to track down a family member
and I was just thinking I would love to be able to give this back to a family member mostly because
if anyone after the fact came up and handed me something
that belonged to my dad and that was as personal and important as a like an engraved
signet ring that would be really meaningful to me and for me that kind of feels like
like full circle on this story
oh right here. Oh this is their home I see. I'm not used to seeing cedar trees and palm.
It looks like kind of. Yeah. You don't see that in the caribou. Oh yeah that's true. Sweet.
Oh yeah, that's true.
Hi, I'm Johanna.
Yep, hi Johanna, I'm Gary of course. Really nice to meet you.
Hi Gary, I'm Dee Dee.
Hi Dee Dee.
Nice to meet you.
Come on in.
Thank you so much.
We arranged for this visit between Dee Dee and Gary.
Gary only knows that Dee Dee also lost a family member in the crash of CB21.
He has no idea about the ring.
A beautiful home.
And the water's right down there, right?
Yeah, yeah.
We head into the living room, and Didi and Gary sit down by the window across from each other.
Dorothy, Gary's wife, brings in coffee for all of us,
but no one drinks it. We're all too interested in what's about to happen. So I mean, I thought
we could start off with sort of each of you. I mean, maybe Gary, you could tell
Dee Dee a little bit about your uncle, because I don't think you really know much at all.
No, no, not at all.
know much at all. No, no, not at all. Well, my uncle was born in Saskatchewan, so I met Uncle Joe a few times. I wish I knew more about him to tell you, but I've kind of polled all the family
members, and I know he's a pretty good guy. We played golf with him in Vancouver. And my dad was a slightly better golfer than Joe was, but he was pretty good.
And he was a miner, as I understand, which I think is the reason he was on the plane.
He was heading up north for a job.
Did he have any family of his own?
He never married, and he didn't have any children.
I love that you called him Uncle Joe because I have known
so many names from reading the passenger list throughout the years and if you don't know
anything about the person it's just a name and you know I know his full name as Joseph Ronald
McClellan which is just a name and you call him Uncle Joe and that makes him a person. Yeah you
know I have a picture of him here if you'd like to see it.
I would love to see a picture.
Oh my gosh. He played for the St. Lazar
Manitoba hockey team.
My dad was a hockey player too.
Oh is that right? Yeah. That's an old
timey hockey shot
there.
You have to describe
the hockey outfits. I know.
These hockey
outfits are hilarious. I mean there's no hilarious, right? These hockey outfits are hilarious.
I mean, there's no numbers, there's no names, there's no helmets.
It's just hockey sticks and what looks like sweatshirts.
But there's also suspenders over the sweatshirts.
Gary wants to know about Dee Dee's connection to CB21.
And so Dee Dee talks about how her dad, Wallace Emo, was on the flight,
how her mom was left to raise three young girls,
and how over the years, Dee Dee has become the sort of unofficial guardian of the crash site.
I've always been happy to help facilitate people who have a connection to go out.
And if you ever do want to come out and hike a little bit in the forest and see it, if it means anything to you, just let me know.
We've talked about it a lot, Dorothy and I. We are definitely going to come out.
I think I knew more and more about the fact that my dad died in a plane crash and later on learned
that it was a bomb, but it wasn't until we actually walked up and saw the crash site
and saw what it looked like,
that I could really appreciate the scope
of what it must have been like
for it to blow up and break apart midair
and how must it have been for the people
when they knew they were going down
if they hadn't already perished.
And I mean, when you see it, you get it.
You kind of go, wow.
You know, there's a reason why I've come to visit you today too.
And it's a really, oh, I'm getting emotional just thinking about it now.
When we did the 30th memorial in 95, it had some coverage,
and local people who hadn't known I was a family member of a deceased
started coming and giving me things.
There was one woman who brought me a fully intact mug,
CP Air written on it, not a chip on it,
and I've been given bits of the plane. And that was one thing,
that was just people saying, you should have this. It doesn't belong to me. I want to give it to you.
Not that it's mine either. But probably the most significant thing that happened to me was a woman
came in my store one day in the late 90s, and she said, I want to give you something.
And her husband had been one of the people who helped with the recovery,
and he had taken a ring from the site.
He passed away, and she said, you're the only person I know to give this to.
And I remember just starting to get to know more about
the crash after that first memorial and getting connected with other people because up till then
it had just been my story, my loss, my family story. And I remember thinking I wish I could
make out the initials on this and I wish I could figure out who it belonged to because I would love
to return it to that person one day. And didn't have much luck.
Eventually we were pretty sure that it was J-R-M
and it matched Joseph Ronald McClellan.
And when I told Johanna and Ian that story,
they were on it and they got researchers on it
and they found you.
on it and they got researchers on it and they found you.
Excellent.
And, you know, I would like nothing more than to give you back this little keepsake as a memory of your uncle.
And I'm actually wearing it around my neck right now.
I've always worn it because it's just something that is close to my heart as a memory of my
dad and other lives lost. But it
would make me so happy to be able to return this to you. Oh, that's fabulous. Yeah. Absolutely
fabulous. Let's see if I can get this off. You know, I had to wear it one last time. That's why
I'm wearing it. It's kind of saying goodbye to a piece that I've held onto for a long time.
It's kind of saying goodbye to a piece that I've held onto for a long time. Didi has been clasping the ring that's still around her neck in both hands,
and now she finally takes it off the chain that she's worn for so many years
and passes it across the table to Gary.
So this is the initial ring, and you can see how it was kind of a ring
because that's sort of like the sides,
and it looks to me like it's silver with a bit of gold on top.
Gary holds the ring, turning it over in his hands.
And the letters are so scrolled, you know,
is this an L, is this an M, is this a T?
But this belonged to your Uncle Joe.
It belongs to you and your family.
So I'm really happy to give it back to you.
Well, thank you very much.
Wow, this is pretty amazing.
I'm very grateful.
And I do remember my Uncle Joe very well.
And this is pretty special.
Thank you.
It's going back to its rightful place
that's super
thank you very much
you're welcome
Gary what does it sort of feel like
to hold this in your hand
gee I don't know how to describe it
actually
no this is pretty special this will survive Gee, I don't know how to describe it, actually.
No, this is pretty special.
This will survive, and it will continue to be in somebody's hands.
Yeah.
How do you think this will make sort of passing on the story of your uncle easier to tell?
Well, it's very real, isn't it? I mean, it's... Yeah.
What you've brought me and what you've done
makes the whole story very real.
I mean, it was kind of abstract.
I was 17 years old when it happened.
Yeah.
This makes it very, very real.
Yeah.
So I don't know what to say except thank you.
The original investigation was one of the most thorough and most exhaustive that even our own experts had ever seen.
The number of interviews, background checks and leads that they followed was truly impressive.
And even though we didn't see anything that they missed,
it's possible that there are still unknowns out there. Police were ultimately unable to point a finger at the one person responsible for the crime, and not for lack of effort. Because in the end,
neither were we. But we did manage to get access to a lot of newly released documents
and to put a lot of new information out in public about this crash.
We can say that definitively that the person who planted this bomb was on board,
that it was a simple bomb that almost anyone could have made.
And we have confidently excluded some theories and some suspects.
You know, I've read of murder cases where there's no body and so police look at possible suspects
and at the end of the investigation, when there's no good suspect, they determine that
there was no crime, there was no murder. Here we have no doubt, someone on this plane committed a monstrous crime.
But all of those suspects have families,
and we've heard how carefully some of them defend their relatives' reputations.
To wrongly and recklessly accuse someone would make them victims of this bombing twice.
What was also clear to us from the start is how little of that 1965 investigation was actually shared with the victims' families
So to be able to present everything we found
new and old all together
to the families who have given us so much
no matter how close we get on the actual investigation
is something that I feel proud that we're able to do for them.
So is it remarkable as you imagined? You know, I don't know what, I didn't know how I would feel
because I've had that in my possession for probably 20 years now. Wow. I got the sense
that it was kind of hard for you to give up at the same time. Well, yeah, it was a bit of a, just kind of like, this is important, and I was hoping it was
important to you too, but I, you know, I wanted to. I feel wonderful. I feel lighter. I feel like
it's come full circle and the job is done. In my own journey, there's been closure and resolve and understanding as I go along.
It's been a heavy thing to carry around all my life, emotionally and with my family.
And I ask my daughter.
She knows I take on more than I need to sometimes.
And so in a way, it's sort of freeing and good.
It's just a little less jingly.
Might have to put something on to clink for a while.
Ha, ha, ha.
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or email us at uncover at cbc.ca. This is a write-up of my mom, who is Edith Wilina.
She was 95% deaf, so she left school at a young age
and became a seamstress and made beautiful wedding gowns.
And we came out west in 1953 and moved to the Yukon. We drove across Canada,
bought a little house and painted it pink.
My name is Shirley Simpson Whitehouse.
Simpson White House.
And I corresponded with one lady that was from Norway and her son was on his way to the Yukon to
teach school for a year. And he had his wife
and two little children. The little girl was about four
the little boy was just a toddler but he was running around.
The little girl had a knapsack on her back with a doll in it,
and the little boy was dressed in an aqua knitted suit.
I wrote to the grandmother, and she wrote back that she'd knit that suit for the baby
and that she'd given the doll to the little girl.
Chère Miss Lott,
Tusen, tusen takk for your letter.
Thank you very much for your letter.
I've thought a lot about the time at the airport before our dearest ones left,
and your description was so vivid that I could imagine all four of them there.
They were all so very kind and generous.
It would have been very interesting to see what your newspapers wrote about the accident, but I'm afraid that there would be too many horrible pictures. I wish you
a good Christmas and thank you for thinking of us. Heartfelt regards from Olga Rognarud.
Take a look at this. Tell me what you think as you look at this.
Right, this is a... Right here.
Red and blue and white ribbon. I mean, I wonder, is this...
So the writing's on this side.
on this side.
Oh my goodness.
In memory of Rogue Nerud family
from Norway
and all other victims.
R.I.P.
So let's say...
It's hard to figure out
the names, right?
Yeah, Trini and
Old Nerud from Norway.
This is the family family the entire family um and and
somebody came to honor all of them so this is the norway flag yeah and we know that i mean not only did this family come here from norway but we also know of families who have come here of
people who have been identified by suspects and and how hard it's been on them too.
So I'm going to read the names of the crew members. John Alfred Steele, Captain, 41.
Warner Murray Wells, First Officer, 29. Stanley Edward Clark, Second Officer, 26.
Marlene Brower, stewardess, 22 years old. And Sue Heinrich, the other stewardess, also 22.
And a steward as well. Ernest Wenzel Searle, 31. Alexander Bruce Anderson, 18. Carl Wilhelm Berg,
45. Peter Bruce Broughton, 29. Ethel Belinda Chapman, 59. William Stanley Koons, 77.
Thomas Covello, 38.
Dorothy Margaret Covello, 34.
David Ross Craig, 21.
John Keith M. Eadie, 46.
Edna Phyllis Eadie, 42.
Douglas Garfield Edgar, 40.
Wallace Brooks Emo, 33.
Donald Ray Gatins, 40. Nigel Harrington, 58. Doris Alma Harris, 72. Norman Leroy Harvey, 40. Ormond William Hay, 50. Hubertus Anna Jansen, 48. Clem Livingstone Thank you. McMurchie, 22. Kelsey Joseph Moore, 41. Dennis Arman Nesseth, 36. Angela Pagatti, 38. Rita Pagatti,
33. And Rosemary Pagatti, infant. Alsace Lorraine Quayle, 49. Harold Hilborn Riley, 26. Liv Rognarud, 25. Kirstie Rognarud, 2. Elling Rognarud, infant.
Barbara Seliger, 25. Edith Buckley-Simpson, 63. Margaret Snonye, 29. Alexander George Snonye, 7.
Donald Ernest Titus, 55. Paul David Vandermuelen, 35. Robert Gerald Weber, 39.
George Wimp, 75.
Jack Reginald Woodward, 51.
And Eugene Peter Zurofsky, 36.
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