Uncover - S26 E6: The Magic Pipe | "The Outlaw Ocean"

Episode Date: May 22, 2024

When a ship inadvertently spills oil, it’s big news. But every three years, ships intentionally dump more oil than the Exxon Valdez, and BP spills combined. This episode highlights a vexing and woef...ully under-discussed problem. It is made possible by corrupt ship captains who use a so-called “Magic Pipe” that dumps oil discreetly under the water line rather than disposing of it on land as legally required. To learn about this problem, the episode tells the story of Carnival’s Caribbean Princess cruise ship, which used such a pipe and was caught, convicted and hit with the biggest fine in history. This case is set in a broader context of other forms of at-sea dumping, such as plastic pollution, and highlights how the sea has long — and perilously — been viewed as a bottomless trash can. Guest Interviews: Annie Leonard, CEO of Greenpeace, creator of “The Story of Plastic” Richard Udell, DOJ Prosecutor on the Caribbean Princess Case.To hear all episodes of The Outlaw Ocean now, visit here.For transcripts of this series, please visit this page.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In 2017, it felt like drugs were everywhere in the news, so I started a podcast called On Drugs. We covered a lot of ground over two seasons, but there are still so many more stories to tell. I'm Jeff Turner, and I'm back with Season 3 of On Drugs. And this time, it's going to get personal. I don't know who Sober Jeff is. I don't even know if I like that guy.
Starting point is 00:00:25 On Drugs is available now wherever you get your podcasts. This is a CBC Podcast. Launched in 2004, Caribbean Princess epitomizes style and grace. Experience a new kind of Caribbean with Princess Cruising. Ideal ship to help you come back new. Caribbean Princess is one of the largest passenger ships on the planet. 952 feet long, it's got an outdoor movie theater, 19 decks, mini golf course, a casino. It has rooms for more than 3,000 passengers and roughly 1,000 crew.
Starting point is 00:01:19 It's this massive thing, which is one part Vegas hotel, one part amusement park. I mean the entire experience is designed to avoid passengers thinking about things like, you know, where does the trash go? Where does the sewage go? Where do those workers go when they're not catering to me? What keeps the illusion alive is hiding all the bad parts so that the passengers experience nothing but the sort of happy illusion. Episode 6, The Magic Pipe. How are you going? Good. You got a cop there?
Starting point is 00:02:09 Okay. Can you please push the bar for us? Chris Keyes is a 28-year-old Scotsman who landed the job of his life starting as a low-level engineer on the Caribbean Princess. On his second outing on the ship, they were 23 miles from Southampton, England, and Keyes was exploring the engine room. And it's important to realize just what these engine rooms look like on a ship this big. It's this three-story maze of shiny metal pipes and whirring machines and glowing monitors. It's like this whole floor of a hotel. And there were four dozen men who worked in the
Starting point is 00:02:52 space. So Keyes was exploring a new section he hadn't been to in the engine room. And he came across this thing that's called a magic pipe. A magic pipe is fairly nondescript. Often it's just a hose that runs from one place to another. It might only be six feet long, but it serves a key purpose, which is essentially to make stuff disappear. And that stuff that disappears is the most toxic waste that the ship produces. is the most toxic waste that the ship produces. Keyes looked at where this weird jerry-rigged thing seemed to be running from and to
Starting point is 00:03:32 and quickly knew that this was not what it should be. It was something that had been added to the normal architecture of the machines, and then it dawned on him that this was a magic pipe. A guy like Keyes knew what was at stake here. He knew that what that magic pipe was doing was flushing toxic waste into the ocean and so he quietly left the scene and when no one else would be around later that evening he came back with his cell phone and and filmed it.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Keyes knew that this was a big deal. He had just come out of maritime school. He was well trained and he knew this was a serious crime that he was witnessing. I spoke with him later and he said his first thought was, this is ridiculous. First chance Keyes got, he handed over his footage and quietly contacted British authorities and told them what he'd witnessed. And since the ship was a U.S. flagship, the British authorities got in touch with American authorities. Our open seas are not dumping grounds for waste.
Starting point is 00:04:53 There was a campaign of obstruction in an effort to hide the deliberate pollution of our seas with oily waste. The charges against Carnival stem from illegal dumping of oil-contaminated waste from the Caribbean Princess cruise ship, the U.S. Department of Justice said on Thursday. This was a huge deal. I mean, the Carnival Company is a multibillion-dollar company. It's got the best of the best lawyers and lobbyists and inroads on Capitol Hill. And so to open up an investigation of any of their ships is a serious matter.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Leading the investigation for the Department of Justice was a guy who'd done this for decades. He's kind of the best and most known prosecutor of these sorts of magic pipe crimes, a guy named Richard Udell. My name's Richard Udell, and I'm a federal prosecutor, and I specialize in environmental crimes. Udell has been at this for years,
Starting point is 00:05:43 but when I talked with him about this case, it was immediately clear that this one really got under his skin. You know, I think he was deeply pissed off about the extent and the willfulness of the crime here, the damage that it causes, and that it involves a company that should know better. The idea that the biggest of them all, the richest of them all, is deliberately violating the entire maritime regime designed to protect the oceans, that's a big deal. Princess advertised itself as an environmentally compliant industry leader with the best available technology.
Starting point is 00:06:27 But it wasn't in compliance, didn't have the best available technology. And that reality is completely different to the image that the company projected. But what I see here never ceases to amaze me. It happens when people connect with nature, with culture, with each other. Princess Cruises, the best premium cruise line. Seven-day Caribbean cruises from five minutes. Cruise ships, like most large ships,
Starting point is 00:07:00 burn the dirtiest type of fuel on the planet. It's called bunker fuel, and it's a viscous, thick, tar-like substance that actually at room temperature is a solid. And when it burns, it has all sorts of really bad chemicals released. Before you burn bunker fuel, it has to be filtered and spun to remove water, debris, you know, chemical impurities. And that stuff that gets through a centrifuge, stripped out of the bunker fuel, produces what's called engine sludge. So this extract is distinctly dirty. And then you also have sewage on the ship and sink water on the ship.
Starting point is 00:07:39 And a lot of these different fluids drip down into bilge waste, which is this really concentrated, bad form of water that collects in the base of the ship. And you've got to find a way to dispose of that as well. They're supposed to use cleaning tanks to separate out the oil before they put the water into the ocean or a place like the Great Lakes. But sometimes they use what's called a magic pipe. A thing called a magic pipe. A so-called magic pipe to circumvent pollution prevention equipment that separates oil and monitors oil levels in the ship's water. An investigation found the vessel
Starting point is 00:08:11 illegally dumped oil-contaminated waste and is linked to ports in nine U.S. states and two territories. All in all, at least three different methods were in use on the Caribbean princess to illegally dispose of oil-contaminated bilge water. The magic pipe was the most obviously illegal, but there were other methods as well. And none of them were being accurately recorded in the oil record book. And that oil record book, inspected by the Coast Guard in the United States, it was full of lies. The engineers have to keep track of everything they do, including how they get rid of and how much they get rid of the oil and the sludge. And the logbook was a creation of this set of laws called Marpole. And Marpole was created in 1973, but it was in response to a disaster that occurred in 1967
Starting point is 00:09:05 in which this ship off the coast of England, an oil freighter, overturned and began slowly spilling its oil. ...the Torrey Canyon. Spewed out of her, more than 40,000 tons of crude oil. In home waters, no oil menace on anything like this scale has ever occurred. It had been suggested that napalm be used to set fire to the oil both in the tanker and on the sea. It was woefully mishandled by the British government
Starting point is 00:09:32 who decided they would bomb the ship in hopes of setting the oil on fire and preventing from fouling the coastline. The plan completely backfired, and hundreds of miles of coastline were instead soiled. Britain can pat herself on the back, whatever happens, for taking such prompt action to protect the beaches. Out of that came a sort of worldwide recognition that there need to be new rules on ships, you know, double-hulled ships, steel-sided ships, and also logbooks,
Starting point is 00:09:58 better ways of tracking the threat of oil spills. The logbooks are a real step forward. At the same time, they're easily gamed. And if you know how to play with the numbers, you can make things look roughly legitimate. The Norwegian engineers referred to it as the eventerbok. And eventerbok in Norwegian just meant fairy tale book. And that's because nobody writes in the oil record book, we're dumping overboard today. Instead, they wrote a book of lies and they all knew it, and that's why they referred to it as the eventerbok, the fairy tale book. You might see lots of entries that are identical, and that's usually a pretty good tip off.
Starting point is 00:10:43 If the oily water separator is only used between the hours of 12 and 1 and only on Wednesdays. And it always discharges overboard five cubic meters. Those are telltale signs that somebody has been lazy and just gun decked. And that's the phrase gun decking. It's a little check, check, check, but not actually doing the work. A cruise line like Carnival or like Royal Caribbean or like Norwegian cruise lines, all of which have been convicted of environmental crimes, they can pay those expenses of environmental compliance. But they haven't. It's not that it's a financial incentive that was unaffordable to them. It's that environmental compliance, environmental stewardship,
Starting point is 00:11:36 simply was not prioritized. I had grown very accustomed to finding sort of middle-tier players in far-off countries engaged in this kind of outlaw behavior. It was the norm, in fact, from what I was seeing. What was unusual here was a multi-billion dollar brand-conscious company being engaged in such a willful crime that was distinct i have a statement and then be glad to take a few questions and then refer them to I have a statement and then be glad to take a few questions and then refer them to our experts here. But virtually every American is familiar with the tragic environmental disaster in Alaskan waters. A super tanker owned by the Exxon Corporation hit a reef 25 miles off the port of Valdez.
Starting point is 00:12:44 By today, 10 million gallons of oil covered 100 square miles of ocean. A large amount of thick toxic sludge has so far leaked from a Japanese freighter. A thousand barrels of oil a day continue to spill. Explosion ripped through BP Deepwater Horizon Drilling Lines. The explosion and fire aboard the Deepwater Horizon and the resulting oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico never should have happened. And I'm deeply sorry that it did. You ask the average person about bad stuff that happens at sea, and they're likely going to say something about Somali piracy or the BP spill. The BP spill, much like the Valdez spill before it,
Starting point is 00:13:18 are known events because they got huge news coverage. And for good reason. You know, events because they got huge news coverage. And for good reason. You know, spills are super, super destructive. But the reality is that every three years, ships around the world intentionally dump, they don't spill, they intentionally dump more oil than the Exxon Valdez and the BP spill combined. Routine and deliberate vessel pollution is a real problem. And it's been found in studies to be up to eight times the amount of pollution that comes from accidental spills like the Exxon Valdez. That's an incredible fact. And when you think about all the ships out there on the seas and imagine that a significant percentage of them are engaged in routine and deliberate discharges. That's why Marpol exists.
Starting point is 00:14:08 The shipping industry in general has a massive environmental footprint on the water, in the air. And the cruise industry in particular has a distinctly detrimental impact on the environment, partially because these ships are so huge. You're talking about ships that have sometimes 5,000 passengers on board and that are producing the amount of sewage of a small city. And there are roughly 400 to 500 of these mega ships traversing the globe on any given day. And when those vessels pull into port in some tiny island nation, they can, in one flush, ruin the nearshore waters. The cruise ship industry is really selling an illusion. It advertises and peddles freedom and exploration,
Starting point is 00:15:09 but the truth is the entire ventures are predictable and choreographed and sort of hyper-managed. When you're on these ships as a passenger, you're moving through one reality. You're on certain floors or in certain sections of the ship, and yet there's a parallel universe. There are even alternate stairwells and alternate floors where all the staff are when they're not catering to you. You know, from the front end of the ship, the tourists are escorted out, and given these days of swimming with the sea turtles, on the back end of the ship,
Starting point is 00:15:45 there's this dumping going on that's polluting the very waters where the turtles live. Come back new. As different from so much else I've done in the Outlaw Ocean, this is not an industry or a realm that lacks laws. In fact, this is part of the maritime space that's highly regulated. But at the end of the day, even with these rules on this industry, the big challenge is enforcing them. Every time there's an advancement in how we might detect illegal violations of Marple, the crew members, they're engineers. Very clever. They know what to do, and they invent other ways to do it.
Starting point is 00:16:37 There's a bazillion ways to dump overboard if that's what you're going to do. Even a brand new engineer knows about Marple. It's what you study in school. There's nobody who works in an engine room that has some confusion here. A magic pipe is not a mistake. Chris Keyes, the whistleblower, recognized exactly what was going on. He confronted his superiors right then and there. When the ship hit the next port, which was Southampton in England, he resigned his position and walked off the ship.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Immediately after the Caribbean Princess was inspected by the Coast Guard, the chief engineer convened a meeting. It was a meeting to pretend to be looking into the allegations of improper conduct. And during the meeting, he held up a sign, a handwritten sign that said, L.A. is listening. In the engine room, there were these microphones that were connected to the headquarters of the company, which is in L.A., and there was real concern
Starting point is 00:17:51 that any discussion that occurred in the office of the engine room might end up being used against the chief engineers in this criminal prosecution. So one by one, the senior engineers pulled the lower staff out into the hall, away from the microphones, and warned them that if they were asked about the magic pipe, they needed to lie. It was a sham meeting, and it let everybody know that they should cover up what took place. It shows not just criminality, but it shows you the consciousness of guilt.
Starting point is 00:18:22 They knew exactly what they were doing at the time, and they knew how bad it was, and they were trying to cover it up. This pattern of evasion and hiding and concealing of evidence and tampering with witnesses just showed a clear premeditated criminality. You know, the old saying about it's not the crime, it's the coverup, and this coverup is really what nailed Carnival. Princess Cruises pleaded guilty to a total seven felony charges,
Starting point is 00:18:53 including conspiracy, obstruction, and violating the act against pollution by a ship. The company was hit with a $40 million penalty. Pay a $40 million fine for dumping oil-contam contaminated wastewater into the ocean over the course of eight years the largest ever criminal prosecution for intentional dumping and pollution by a ship when judges sentence a defendant they're supposed to look at the nature and circumstances of the offense and when we went to sentencing in the Princess case, we put together a list for the
Starting point is 00:19:27 judge of the nature and seriousness of the offense and the aggravating factors. Here's that list. Deliberate pollution within navigable waters, territorial sea, and exclusive economic zone of the United States and elsewhere. By bypassing and subverting required pollution prevention equipment, tampering with required environmental monitoring devices, a failure to conduct internal audits, a failure to address known problems, and substantial acts of concealment, a long duration of conduct, high level of consciousness of guilt, the involvement of a large number of participants, actual and perceived threats to lower level pollution of the very environment upon which the company's livelihood depends. Princess was convicted and the penalty was $40 million. And on top of that, was sentenced to a
Starting point is 00:20:20 term of probation of five years. During that five-year period, the company had to agree to outside independent auditors that had been inspecting their ships. It was discovered that they had a SWAT team effectively going out to the ships before the outside independent auditors and correcting problems. You can imagine how well that went over. A remarkable scene unfolded in a Miami courtroom. The head of the world's largest cruise line company, Carnival, stood before a federal judge and pleaded guilty to six counts of violating probation.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Ultimately, the judge approved an agreement by which Carnival pleads guilty to violating probation and pays a $20 million fine. We are very sorry for the inexcusable actions of our employees, and we also deeply regret that our oversight was inadequate. We take full responsibility. Take full responsibility. Take full responsibility. Take full responsibility. Take full responsibility.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Take full responsibility. Carnival's initial response was that, yes, it was very sorry that it had a few bad apples. That's not what the case was about. What a case like this is about is about corporate culture. The company hasn't actually convinced its employees that it wants them to obey the law. Environmental crimes are white-collar crimes. They're financial crimes. There's something about money going on, and that's the motivation in pretty much every white-collar crime. In the Carnival case, crew members were told by their boss, by the chief engineer,
Starting point is 00:22:00 that the chief engineer didn't want to spend money on things because it would make him look bad there was an interesting expression on the caribbean princess in italian the phrase is burkino corto it just means short arms the chief engineer had short arms because his arms were so short he couldn't reach his wallet and crew members referred to him that way And crew members referred to him that way. The simplistic, stripped-down set of goals are get there, make the passengers happy, and do it for the least amount of money possible. What this results in is a sort of tacit encouragement to make problems go away, to find savings but don't say how you found them.
Starting point is 00:22:47 And that's what created a culture of the magic pipe. In 2017, it felt like drugs were everywhere in the news. So I started a podcast called On Drugs. We covered a lot of ground over two seasons, but there are still so many more stories to tell. I'm Jeff Turner, and I'm back with season three of On Drugs. And this time, it's going to get personal. I don't know who Sober Jeff is.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I don't even know if I like that guy. On Drugs is available now wherever you get your podcasts. A hundred years ago, this case would have made no sense because dumping was the norm and it was illegal and it was standard practice. And all manner of things were routinely dumped offshore. For example, after World War II, Russia and the U.K. and the U.S. loaded about a million tons of unexploded ordnance, specifically mustard gas, onto the back of ships and took them out to sea and dumped them.
Starting point is 00:23:56 The disposal methods to be shown are the result of over 10 years of development in cooperation with the United States Coast Guard. The deep sea was chosen as the most desirable ultimate depository. These same countries had a practice of dumping nuclear sludge and even old nuclear reactors at sea. And shockingly, I mean, this practice of dumping nuclear waste at sea only was banned in 1993. Since then, you know, getting rid of nuclear waste essentially became a black market affair.
Starting point is 00:24:30 The industry was driven underground, and there's this famous case, for example, of the Italian mafia waste disposal syndicate that was taking these oil drums full of nuclear waste and dumping them off the coast of Somalia. It's the mafia's control of Italy's waste disposal industry that's proven not only to be its most lucrative racket yet, but also its deadliest.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Now Italy faces a toxic waste crisis that threatens the health of generations to come. One of the judges in one of our first trials asked about this problem and made a comment, said, you know, people have been dumping in the ocean since the time of the Phoenicians. And that's true. That's true. And that's the problem. Many people think of the oceans as this resource that is bottomless, but it's not. this resource that is bottomless, but it's not. The sort of disappearance of this oil at sea fits inside a larger notion of it'll dilute.
Starting point is 00:25:35 You know, the saying is dilution is the solution for pollution. And the thought there is that this will be watered down in the ocean and no one will know and no one will be harmed. Because we have that outlook on the oceans that it can dilute anything, it almost has its deity-like power, it means that through time, the worst type of pollution, the worse it is, the more likely it's to end up in the ocean. I mean, think about the diversity of what we've dumped at sea. You've got oil, sewage, chemical and effluvium, garbage, military ordnance, entire nuclear reactors or oil and gas drilling rigs.
Starting point is 00:26:23 I mean, everything has been thrown over the years into the ocean. And so of all the insane things that we throw away in the ocean, one in particular, one type in particular has really accumulated to an impossible degree, and that is plastic pollution. In an underwater paradise, a plastic nightmare. Diver Rich Horner just days ago filming stunning images searching for fish but finding an ocean of plastic trash. Every year about eight million tons of this type of waste ends up in our oceans. The UN estimates by 2050 there'll be more plastic in the ocean than fish.
Starting point is 00:27:01 the ocean than fish. The CEO of Greenpeace, Annie Leonard, is someone I turn to for analysis on the ocean, not just for the threats the ocean face, but the sort of systems that create those threats. I'm Annie Leonard, and I'm the executive director of Greenpeace US. Greenpeace has a reputation, and deservedly so, as a radical organization. At the same time, my experience was that while they're radical, they're very rigorous, often quite nuanced, and deeply sober about their outlook on the world. can say that for decades, basically my entire adult life, I have been fascinated with how things move through the economy, the sort of social, environmental, political, psychological health impacts of that. And so I did spend over a decade traveling around the world, looking at the factories that make our stuff and the dumps where we dump our stuff. And when I came back to the US,
Starting point is 00:28:01 I was thinking, how can I get people to think about all of our stuff before we have it and after we're done with it? So I made a talk that became enormously popular called The Story of Stuff. The Story of Stuff was adapted into a documentary film called The Story of Plastic. And it is unusually incisive and offers a sort of deeper and broader analysis of the plastic problem. This excerpt is from the film. The latest estimate from the American Chemistry Council is that $194 billion will be invested in the U.S. into 325 new or expanded facilities for petrochemicals, primarily for plastics between now and 2025.
Starting point is 00:28:44 We're already producing more plastics in the United States than we can use. So the question is, where is that plastic going? It's flowing to Asia, it's flowing to Europe, it's flowing into ever new product streams. This highlights a really fundamental truth about the plastics crisis and about plastics as a product. To a far greater extent than in any other product chain. Plastics are driven not by the demand for them, but by the supply. This is the story of plastics.
Starting point is 00:29:13 It is fossil fuels finding a new form and finding a new place to flow through the economy. I've been a fan of Annie Leonard's for a long time, and her story of Stuff Project I thought was really smart and at its root it had a simple thought which is that we on this planet are operating as if we have infinite resources and And the way that we consume and dispose of things is utterly unsustainable. And nowhere is that story more relevant than on the oceans, both in terms of what we're taking out of the oceans and also what we're putting into them. I did travel around the world for over a decade. I'm looking at the different places that people have figured out to put waste.
Starting point is 00:30:07 And we put waste in all kinds of places, but top of the list is often the ocean. In every coastal country that I saw, there was people dumping waste into the ocean. The city of Philadelphia had been burning its municipal solid waste, its trash, in an incinerator, which is an incredibly stupid thing to do with your garbage because you are left over with this pile of toxic ash that you have to put somewhere. And so the city of Philadelphia loaded this ash onto a ship and went off in search of a country to dump it on. Greenpeace followed it and warned every country it was approaching. And we followed this ship for 27 months. During that journey, when it kept trying to find a dump spot, it three times changed its name, got a paint job.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Eventually, in the Indian Ocean, it opened up its holds to reporters and said, look, it's gone. And everybody said, where is that ash? Thousands of tons of toxic ash. They said, where is that ash? And they wouldn't tell. But fortunately, as is often the case, a crew member thought it was concerning that they were bulldozing that into the sea and took photographs of it. It went to the Bahamas. It went to the Dominican Republic. It went to Honduras. And it even went
Starting point is 00:31:19 to Cape Verde and Guinea-Bissau in West Africa, before coming all the way back to Haiti, where it landed on December 31, 1987. Haiti has a lot of coastline, and what little surveillance there is can be bought off very easily. That's the crux of the matter. Often the waste that's in the ocean wasn't even dumped in the ocean at all. It was dumped on the land, it was dumped in the beach, it was dumped in rivers. I mean, everything drains into the ocean. So the ocean is getting waste that's from dust from tire wear on the roads.
Starting point is 00:32:00 It's getting waste from agricultural runoff, pesticides and chemicals. What's crazy is that awareness of waste is growing. I mean, everybody is concerned about waste in the ocean, about the need to recycle. Awareness of waste is growing, but so is the waste itself. The amount of waste that the average person produces in the United States is growing and growing. The U.S. has about 5% of the world's population and produces about 20% of the world's waste. We're just a very, very wasteful society and economy compared to almost any other country out there. Americans throwing out on average 10 plastic bags a week each, millions ending up here. Overall, when you think of the total materials that we pull out of the earth and
Starting point is 00:32:45 run through the system, less than 1% of total materials that we pull out of the earth is still in product or use six months later. That means 99% of the stuff that we are mining, logging, harvesting, extracting, 99% of that is waste in less than six months. And that is just no way to run a sustainable economy. Oil companies compete with each other in taking the petroleum molecule apart and rearranging it into, well, you name it, fabrics, toothbrushes, tires, insecticides made it so ubiquitous, that's turned it into a monster, was on the front end of its origin story, the very thing that made it so inspiring and encouraging.
Starting point is 00:33:55 You know, it was indestructible, it could last forever, you could reuse it, and it was super cheap to make. And those very same traits are the ones that have turned it into a complete nightmare. It doesn't break down. It's so cheap, it's ubiquitous and all over the place. And so when it gets into the ocean, it does not biodegrade. It takes forever to break down, and it just accumulates in the water, on the seafloor, and in the marine life itself. This pilot whale is starving to death.
Starting point is 00:34:29 If the team leave it, it will drown. It cannot eat because its stomach is full of plastic. Rescuers know this whale won't be the last. With 8 million tons of bags and bottles clogging up our oceans, more animals will die. Oh, she's bleeding. Definitely awareness about ocean plastic is increasing. And, you know, the turtle with the straw bits and nose did a huge service for raising awareness about this issue. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Oh, my God. Unfortunately, that raised awareness has not translated into actual improvement in the issue. What we've seen is the plastic industry and the fossil fuel industry that's so closely connected to it doubling down with PR and marketing, reminding everybody that plastic is recyclable, which is not really true, but which is a very effective marketing technique to get people to feel comfortable buying and throwing away this inherently dangerous product. The reality is that plastic is not recyclable for a number of reasons. One is physically. Plastic is made out of these long chains of polymers, and anytime it's heated and reprocessed, those polymers degrade.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And anytime it's heated and reprocessed, those polymers degrade. So you can't make a plastic bottle out of a plastic bottle out of a plastic bottle indefinitely as you can with other materials like aluminum, for example. So it's technically problematic, but even worse, it's economically not feasible. It just doesn't make sense. It costs more money to collect, sort, wash, and transport and process the plastic than it would cost to make new plastic. And one of the reasons for that is that 99% of the raw ingredients of plastic are fossil fuels. And fossil fuels are so heavily subsidized and so inexpensive that recycled plastic could just never economically compete with virgin plastic made from these subsidized fossil fuels.
Starting point is 00:36:29 There's a huge gap between people's perception of how much plastic is recycled and the reality. Globally, it's less than 9% of plastic that has ever been produced has actually been reprocessed. That means that 91% of all the plastic that's ever been produced that is millions and millions and millions of tons, 91% is either buried in a hole in the ground, burned in an incinerator, or is in the ocean. It is dumped somewhere. In many ways, we've won the battle for public consciousness.
Starting point is 00:37:03 The problem is that the overall system is just so unsustainable that a little bit of greenwashing here, a little bit of green packaging here or there, it just doesn't make any difference. And in fact, all of this green slogans on products can lead to what we call the rebound effect of people buying more stuff, causing more environmental damage because they think it is a green product. It's great to know that companies like Nestle Waters are well along the journey of recycling. We get it back. We reprocess it.
Starting point is 00:37:35 We use it again. We get to make the world a better place. So let's use them over and over and over again. I choose to work hard. One of the reasons that new plastic is so artificially cheap is that the companies are not really paying the true cost of producing that plastic. And one of the best examples of that is the pollution that's caused both by plastic production and by disposal. The companies aren't paying for that. The term when a cost is not actually incorporated by the company is that they've externalized that cost. And so all these companies that are making and using
Starting point is 00:38:16 huge amounts of plastic, Coca-Cola, Uniliver, Procter & Gamble, they make huge amounts of plastic, much of which ends up in the ocean, and they're not paying for that disposal. The oceans are paying, and all of us, including the three billion people globally that are dependent on ocean ecosystems for survival, we're all the ones paying because we're losing our oceans while those plastic producing companies are just raking in the profits. profits. You know, I came to think of the magic pipe as a synecdoche for the larger societal way that we deal with waste. We are getting rid of waste in this seemingly magical way where we send it off into the
Starting point is 00:38:58 air or into the water and assume it's gone for good. As is often the case with these issues, the disproportionate burden of this problem ends up being on the shoulders of the developing nations. So not only are those nations least equipped to clean up their coastal waters as this stuff floats their way. But they're also the location where when we take our plastic waste from the developed world, where do we dump it but the developing world in their very landfills, which of course end up often in their rivers and back along their coastline.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I often say that waste follows the path of least resistance. I often say that waste follows the path of least resistance. W, black, brown, indigenous communities, or overseas. We export a lot of our waste, especially our plastic waste, to countries in the global south, to Asia, to Africa. The way it is, you are a small basket for the need of the U.S.? As the developed world realizes that this thing, this single-use plastic, is a problem, the main sellers of it, the corporate players that are making and selling it, are shifting their attention to where is the last front, you know, their last possibility for survival. And so they're looking to the developing world to sell more and more of the single-use plastic products. I lived in Asia for a number of years. I saw it right before my eyes. Sustainable material,
Starting point is 00:41:02 you know, natural clay, reusable stainless steel, sustainable materials that could be used over and over or readily composted were being replaced with disposable plastic. And you see it everywhere. You know, you go to markets in a lot of other countries, just like if you go to Target here as well, I guess, and there's just wall to wall disposable plastic, which is going to end up in the ocean soon enough because these are very short-lived items. So we're exporting our actual waste, and we're exporting a disposable orientation towards our economy
Starting point is 00:41:34 that's going to take years to recover from. The level of plastic pollution in the ocean has reached absolute crisis levels. It is a full-on global emergency. And often when people think about plastic in the ocean, they think about large items. You hear about the great garbage patch, like it's some kind of, you know, floating mass of plastic. It's much worse than that. There are those big chunks of plastic, you know, lawn furniture, fishing nets, you know, big plastic items. But most of the plastic has actually been broken down through wave action, through sunlight, into what's called microplastics. Tiny, tiny pieces of plastic that just permeate the entire ocean.
Starting point is 00:42:32 It is much more like plastic soup than sort of floating plastic garbage. It's just everywhere. Scientists estimate around 3 million tons of microfibers now pollute our oceans, even reaching Antarctica. Microscopic particles of plastic in snow. Even here, the Mariana Trench, plastic has found its way more than six and a half miles down. Showing particles from plastic waste end up in our water, soil and air. It's in every species of fish and sea life that has been tested are these tiny little bits of plastic full of toxic chemicals that sea life either eats or it gets in through their gills and some of this stuff is so small it crosses into organs, it crosses the cell barrier.
Starting point is 00:43:19 So we've basically permeated our entire ocean with little tiny toxic containing plastic nuggets, which is threatening the sea life and then threatening us because we're eating this stuff. These problems matter because we need a healthy ocean. Only with a healthy ocean can it serve its many purposes, one of which is the oceans are what provides us with 50% of the air we breathe, and they play this important role to clean the air. It truly is the temperature stabilizer of the planet, and it's one of the few things that we have that's slowing the current rate of global warming. have that's slowing the current rate of global warming. It is like a science experiment, except I don't even think scientists could have thought of something so sinister. It's like a science
Starting point is 00:44:13 fiction horror film where there's this part of the planet, the majority of the planet, that sustains life, that is magical and beautiful, that moderates the hydrological cycle, it moderates weather, it absorbs carbon so it combats climate change. It's like this magic, incredible, wonderful gift is our ocean. And through the way that we run our economy and through climate change and pollution, we are undermining the ocean's ability to take care of us. The only way you could describe the trajectory we're on is just downright suicidal. You've got fish stocks collapsing.
Starting point is 00:44:55 You have plastic pollution accumulating. You have sea levels rising. You have acidity levels rising. You have mass die-offs, you have algae blooms, you have dumping increasing, you have so many different problems that are getting worse not better. And if these problems were occurring in different places, different disconnected places, and weren't reinforcing each other and interacting with each other, it'd be one thing. But
Starting point is 00:45:23 they are accumulating and growing on the momentum of each other and interacting with each other, it'd be one thing. But they are accumulating and growing on the momentum of each other, and we don't really know what that means. Scientists talk about tipping points. Tipping points where some damage of a system is so bad that we can't recover. And I worry that we are nearing tipping points on the ocean. The combination of increased temperatures, changing ocean chemistry, depleting the sea life that lives in there, the pollution, we're really pushing the ocean to its absolute brink of survival. And that has enormous impacts because we can't live without the ocean. So I'm extremely alarmed about the tipping point. live without the ocean. So I'm extremely alarmed about the tipping point. Once we pass that tipping point, which we are perilously close to, then we just move into harm reduction. Then it's too late. Tongo Neiblerler Arctic Sunrise, as you can see we are still in the process of conducting
Starting point is 00:46:51 a peaceful protest here out in these distant waters far from the coast. We consider that your drilling operation is not safe. It's not safe for the planet. And we have a message for you from the people, from thousands of people who feel the same way. We will stand our ground in peaceful protest at the operation that is most dangerous to emit more CO2 and affect climate change.
Starting point is 00:47:54 When I started this reporting, I was most interested in chronicling, explaining, maybe even countering the abuses that occur out there. And I started out thinking in a more black and white way of the abuses against the people. And, you know, I still have that priority. And, you know, I still have that priority, but I think the more time I spent out there, the more I realized that this whole other category of crime and abuse is one that's occurring against the ocean itself. I needed to not think of it as some passive, you know, backdrop or like a canvas of bad behavior, but rather as this vibrant organism that had its own story. The people on the ocean surface were a bit like sea lice, you know, on a whale. You know, you can focus on the tragedy of the sea lice and it's probably important, but you also really need to think about the whale itself.
Starting point is 00:48:43 It's not just a surface, it's a thing. It's alive. And I really need to understand how the parasitic passengers were making the whales sick. On the final episode of The Outlaw Ocean. It's so hard to communicate what it's like out there, right? You need to talk bigger in order to kind of just shake people, let people know, like, it's unreal out there. You'll hear people talk about the draw of the sea and it's a spell, the spell that it casts on you and stuff like that. And that's really, really true. smell that it casts on you and stuff like that. And that's really, really true. I mean, the moment I headed out on the fishing boats, my entire life has been about returning to the ocean.
Starting point is 00:49:38 From CBC Podcasts and the LA Times, this series is created and produced by the Outlaw Ocean Project. It's reported and hosted by me, Ian Urbina. Written and produced by Ryan French. Editing and sound design by Michael Ward. Sound recording by Tony Fowler. Our associate producer is Margaret Parsons. Additional production by Joe Galvin and Marcella Bailey. This episode features music by Kodomo, Stoneface and Terminal, Antarctic Wastelands, Appleblim, Earth and Sea, Darwin, Solar Heavy, Boki, Himuro Yoshiteru, Their music is available online at the Outlaw Ocean Music Project website
Starting point is 00:50:20 and wherever you stream music. Please check out their work. Additional music by Scott Coatsworth, Britt Brady, Matthew Stevens, Gamitone, and Fabio Nascimento. For more CBC Podcasts, go to cbc.ca slash podcasts.

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