Uncover - S36 E5: Election Day | The Cult Queen of Canada
Episode Date: March 23, 2026It's Election Day in Richmound. The town votes for a new mayor in a desperate battle to heal the divide caused by Queen Romana's cult. Amidst the high-stakes political maneuvering, the cult's true dan...ger is revealed through one vulnerable family.
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It sometimes feels like the deeper I get into the story of Richmound,
the further I get from the story of Romana Dietolo and her cult.
It can feel like the presence of the queen is incidental to the simmering local grievances
that have the town divided.
That's why I need you to meet Sarah.
God is, I'm loving my hair since I got here.
Oh, right.
His family, not so much.
Sarah and I met up to talk because of something that happened to her dad.
Yeah.
And so how long has he lived in Richmond?
For 12 years.
And what brought him here?
I'm pretty sure it's the price.
Sarah's dad moved to Rich Mound for an affordable retirement.
We're not using his name or her real name to protect her father's privacy.
at her request.
He spent his first years in Richmond on his own.
Sarah says he had a tough time finding community in town.
Then he got sick.
And he was not doing well.
His health was getting worse because he has like really progressed MDS, which is leukemia.
He lost weight, was weak and tired.
Sarah worried about her father from afar.
She and her husband were living a few provinces over.
Then her dad started getting treatment,
blood transfusions and chemotherapy,
but the cancer was still progressing.
So she was relieved when her dad reported he'd made some friends in town,
one woman and one man,
neither of whom Sarah wants to name.
He only had a handful of friends who he met.
The woman in town was his only friends and the man who owns the school.
And her dad started telling her about this group that's staying in the Richemount School,
who his friends have introduced him to.
She kept bringing him to the school
to be with those people
and to eat with them
and they used to feed him all the time
which I like that.
He's alone, he's old man.
Did you ever say anything
about interacting with Queen Romana?
Yeah. Yeah.
What does he say?
He just said there's nothing weird going on there.
Like, Dad, what are they doing?
It's weird.
I do think he buys into her politics a little bit.
That's Sarah's husband.
I have heard him talking about
the fact that we have a good.
government here, like a mayor's here, he considers a treason against the queen.
Meanwhile, her dad started talking about a new potential treatment for his cancer.
When did you first hear him talk about the medbeds?
He's been talking about them for a year, hasn't he?
What did he say about them exactly?
Just that they can reverse your aging, they can heal you, they can change your DNA.
Medbeds.
These are fictional medical devices that Romana has been promising her follow
are coming soon.
Images shared online show futuristic medical pods, often with bright lights and airtight lids.
They're said to be able to cure almost anything.
They can perform surgeries, regrow limbs, cure diseases, and even reverse aging.
This conspiracy theory predates Romana and has been spread beyond the kingdom of Canada.
In the fall of 2025, Donald Trump even posted an AI-generated video of
of himself promising medbeds.
Every American will soon receive their own medbed card.
With it, you'll have guaranteed access to our new hospitals led by the top.
But Romana has been selling her followers on medbeds for years.
And it's gotten some of her older followers hooked.
Followers like Sarah's dad.
I think he thinks he's going to get one and be 20 again.
I think I think that's kind of how they're selling it.
And it's just so sad.
When you're going to be sick, it's easy to pray on you for that.
Of course.
And did you know that they were something that was coming from this person called Queen Romana?
No.
We found that out.
Then we took Dad out the other day.
Sarah's dad showed them the messages he'd been exchanging with someone from the cult's telegram channel who had sent him photo evidence.
They shared photos.
And we did a reverse search on the photos.
It was from the movie Prometheus.
They're just taking actual science fiction films.
Someone had been sending him images.
ripped from Prometheus, the fifth movie in the alien franchise.
But we told him that it's not real. That would be nice.
Like we flattered him, but it's not a real thing. It's just fiction.
We didn't know he was so serious about them.
He is serious, even considering stopping his chemo treatments.
He told me he doesn't want to do it anymore. I'm like, yeah, really?
I think I know why.
Why?
Because of the bed beds.
He believes those so much.
breaks my heart. Sarah and her husband were getting increasingly worried. They decided to move their
family to Richmond to help him out. But then they learned something that makes them worry on another
level. Sarah's dad tells them that he's been donating to Queen Romana to secure his spot in a medbed.
He says everyone does donations. They don't take anyone's money. It's all donations. Yeah. But still,
you have a pensioner who can barely has just enough to afford his living, why would you take his
donation for a thing that doesn't exist? It's to get his spot for the medbed. It's ugly. I, I, yeah,
I couldn't sleep last night. It bug me so much. When I think about the forces that pull people
into conspiracy theories, fear, hate, Facebook algorithms, those things feel at least possible
to combat. But hope and health? I really don't know what a daughter in Sarah's position should do.
And the woman Sarah doesn't want to name, the friend her dad has made in town who continues to bring him to Romana?
I'm pretty sure I know who she's talking about. With the Richmond mayoral election finally here,
locals like her dad's friend are willing to do just about anything to win, even if that means
siding with the cult over their own neighbors.
or their own family.
I'm Rachel Brown, and this is the cult queen of Canada from CBC's Uncover.
Episode 5, Election Day.
I'm back in Richmond with my producer Pippa to cover the election between Brad Miller and Jody Smith.
Brad is the current mayor running for re-election, who has been working tirelessly to get the cult out of Richmound.
And his challenger is Jody Smith.
Jody sees himself as the neutral option
and thinks the opposition to the cult has gone too far.
So in a way, this election is between the seniors and the so-called elites.
Some might even say it's the town versus the cult.
Our plan is to stake out the polls and check in with both sides as the votes roll in.
Voting has been on for all of five minutes when the doors of the polling station crash open.
I feel bad, Bill, I got objected to two.
And I lived in town for 50 years.
Two locals come out, already in a tense conversation.
They stand on either side of our car, glaring at each other.
What?
But what, Bill?
That's because somebody else started it.
Brad's running mate, Jig, is squaring off against Bill, a friend of Jody Smith's,
over who should be allowed to vote in Richmond.
Did you know that my wife walked in here and got ejected to,
then Jody Smith got objected to, that's why you got objected to.
For no other reason, Jig.
Use your hand.
Bill, you don't live in town.
I have a fucking lot.
Bill and Jig are fighting because both of their votes have been objected to.
Brad was told that if the cult was going to show up to cast their ballots today,
he would have to object in case he wanted to later contest their votes.
But Brad has really been going for it.
And so in turn, Jody's team serves it right back to him, tit for tat.
Jig for Bill.
You got a piece of dirt so you could come and vote.
We all know what I'm Bill.
Nothing to do with voting.
Two sides of the battle for Rich Mound.
Jig representing the so-called elites, the anti-cult side,
and Bill standing in for the seniors who are more sympathetic to the presence of the cult.
After the fight, Jig stays by our car for another.
moment to debrief.
And again, here's small town stuff.
Yeah.
Bill.
Bill's son is married to my wife's sister.
In a way, these men are extended family.
But since the cult arrived, that familial bond has been torn apart.
As we're talking, a vehicle pulls up in parks.
Inside, the driver stares daggers at me from behind her cat-eye glasses.
It's Melinda Fisher.
As you might remember, it took a long time to get Melinda to talk to me.
But once she did, she really talked.
I'll show you how crop the town is, really.
These people here in a school are mild.
They're nothing compared to what the village is.
But then, I published a feature article for the Walrus magazine about the story.
And suddenly, she stopped talking to me.
I hadn't been able to get a hold of her in months.
Then just as we were driving into town to cover the story,
the election, I got a text.
So I just got a message from Melinda that says, too bad.
You used your own article for your narrative.
You burnt your bridges here so long.
Well, I guess that's the end of my relationship with Melinda, though.
She hadn't been responding to me for a long time.
And now here she is, and we're locked in a staring contest.
She's looking at us.
I'm not looking away.
It's kind of like a game of chicken.
She's looking right out of us.
She's been looking at us.
straight for a long time.
She's got somebody with her.
Right beside her is an older man.
He gets out of the car with a cane.
Melinda comes around and supports his arm
as they walk towards the polls.
Jake tells us he's a local and is quite sick.
So she would have went to get him
so that he could vote.
I doubt he'll ever be back here again
from like he's got cancer and he's not in very good.
Oh, my gosh.
An older guy with cancer, with Melinda, it suddenly dawns on us who this is, Sarah's dad, one of Queen Romana's followers.
Why drag somebody out here that is in that shape just to get a vote?
We watch as Melinda and this frail man make their way to the polls.
She's successfully adding one voter to the Jody Smith side.
But will her larger plan work?
Will any of the 12 cult members she added to her land title actually vote?
I felt a mild underlying tension in Richmond the first time I visited.
Today, it's ramped up, way up.
Jig feels it too.
I feel it just driving in here today.
I feel it Bill coming, walking out the door.
You know, I feel it, Melinda, sitting in the vehicle staring at you.
You know, it's just everybody's eyes are on you.
It's not unusual for Rich Mound to feel surveilled,
with the cult security patrolling the grounds and filming everyone walking by.
But today, I look over and the school grounds are mysteriously empty.
And not only that, they've put up these huge tents on top of the school.
On a recent broadcast from the cult,
they'd been talking about preparing for a natural disaster,
like the massive floods that had just hit Spain that fall.
If you see water coming from underground, move to higher ground immediately.
This seems unlikely in Saskatchewan in the winter.
I wonder if they're inside the tents watching the town, surveilling the polling station, deciding when to make their move.
After the drama this morning at the polls, I go check in with Jody Smith.
How certain are you from my last question?
How certain are you that you?
you'll win. Fairly certain. I've done the tally, and I think pretty sure I'm going to win.
Not by a big margin, though. I don't know if there'd be 10 votes between us. So it's going to come
down to getting every vote out. Jody has set up a war room in a little industrial building on the
edge of town, where he and the other seniors gather for coffee every morning. Signs on the walls
say things like, sorry for calling you stupid, I thought you knew. And there's an industrial-sized coffee
earned brewing all day.
It's 11 a.m. and already Jody's on the phone calling undecided voters.
He actually got his phone for this express purpose. He'd never even had a cell phone before.
I realized if I'm going to do this job, you've got to be reachable.
Text and talk only. No data.
It's a dumb phone. It's a dumb phone.
And he tells me he's managed to pull a few voters over to his side and even convince a few locals to vote.
who had never voted before.
He says he can't vote for Brian Miller.
Brad Miller.
Brad Miller, I'm sorry.
You know, so that's one I wasn't guaranteed on.
That's for sure.
Jody says his campaign promise to focus on Richmount's problems
and leave the cult alone is resonating with voters.
This town is in turmoil.
The coming of the queen was a catalyst for a lot of it,
but I think we can see her way through it
so that we can at least talk to,
other, at least look at each other, instead of going on to Facebook and doing a big rant and saying you're friends with the Queen or you're this or you're that.
Already today, both sides are slinging insults on the local Facebook group, the Richmond and area scoop.
If elected, what will you do, if anything, regarding the presence of the Queen?
Very little because the money has been spent trying to evict her and there's really no legal way of doing it.
I don't want to give her any more importance or status than she deserves.
If you're going to rant and rave, she's won.
Jody's new phone is blowing up with updates throughout the day.
25 for Miller, 35 for us, six unknown.
If Jody's tally is right, he is way ahead in the polls.
I haven't gotten a chance to talk to Mayor Brad today
because he's inside the polling station serving as his own scrutineer.
We've been talking since he decided, reluctantly, to run for a second term.
And he's been feeling the support from his constituents.
He read me a text he got a week before the election.
I hope and pray our community will continue with your leadership.
If it goes right in town, we will heal all together and make Richmond great again.
Bored that from the last few words. Thanks again.
From Trump, I borrowed it.
Then he laughed because he knows what it.
The day before the election, Richemound had a community event, a parogi lunch, and Brad felt even more bolstered.
He seemed to be more motivated and optimistic than ever.
I think this town can change and heal within a day or two. I'm not kidding. That's how great it'll be.
So you're feeling pretty confident then that you...
Oh, yeah. If everybody gets out and vote, I think we have no problem.
But now, it's 1 p.m. on election day.
Brad's been in the polls for hours, and I'm not.
I sense some nerves.
Okay, so Brad, I texted Brad, and I said, how's everything going in there?
And he said, good so far.
I have a heartbeat.
And I said, stress?
Brad replies, yeah, you wouldn't think you should be stressed, but yes, I sure am.
And I said, oh dear, it's a lot.
And he said, I guess I have something to lose, whereas the others running don't.
Brad is realizing it seems for the first time that he could lose this thing.
I check in with his number one ally against the cult, Shauna Seine.
She's been running around town as always, helping people vote and staying in the mix.
I catch her at home on a brief break.
And there's a lot of people who are tired and you, you're tireless.
No, I'm tired.
Well, you seem tireless, but I can imagine you're probably just emotionally in physics.
I am. I'm so sick at this. I hate it.
I keep saying our community is never going to recover from this.
You don't think so.
I mean, yes, is there a little snippet of hope?
Yeah, but I'm pretty worried that we're not going to.
Despite all the drama, there are still unbecited voters.
Do you know who you're going to vote for for me?
No.
Roxanne runs Brown Bear Grocery, Richemount's convenience store slash liquor store slash post office.
Are you going to vote?
It's hard to pick that world.
Well, you don't want to pick sides.
No, but this town is so divided.
It'll never, no matter what government we get in here, they'll still be fighting.
No matter what government we get in here, she said, they'll still be fighting.
She's lived in this town for a long time, and a lot of the people on Jody's side,
Jody himself, Melinda, and other friends of theirs, are all.
pretty new to town. As she thinks about who she wants to vote for, she considers who has really made an
effort for the community. Between me and yeah, there was that lunch. She's talking about the parogi
lunch the town hosted the day before. Everyone was invited. The guy that's running for mayor against our
mayor right now, they didn't go for lunch. What does it mean that he didn't come? To some people,
it means that he's not part of our town.
He doesn't want to support different functions and stuff like that.
Yeah.
Roxanne is talking about Jody.
I head to his war room to check in with him.
It's 4 p.m. now and the polls close at 8.
Four hours to go.
As soon as we arrive, Jody gives us an update on his tabulations.
He thinks the race has tightened up since we last checked in.
31 Miller, 37 us, six unknown.
We're only six votes ahead now.
We're eight votes ahead before.
This thing is going to settle about eight votes apart, I think.
Still, no sign of the Queen or the other cult members at the polls.
Those 12 votes could make all the difference.
I asked Jody about the Parogi lunch Roxanne tells me he skipped.
I didn't go because there's a bunch of people that really don't like me, some that do like me.
And I thought, well, I'm not in an official position yet.
I'm not a mayor, so I don't have to go.
As a citizen, I didn't get a warm, fuzzy feeling when I went to some of these things.
So why go?
If I was mayor, I would go.
Okay, I'm coming in.
Plug, hold your nose and go in.
It strikes me.
that while Jody says he wants to lead this community,
he doesn't seem to want to spend time with it.
Brad and his wife have invited everyone to join them for a community fire in the park,
to bring the town together, regardless of the election's result.
It's 5 p.m. now, only three hours left in the polls.
I head to the park to check in with Brad's supporters as they get the fire set up.
But as I pull in, I get in, I get in.
But as I pull in, I see them standing on picnic tables, pulling posters down from the rafters of the covered area.
Wow, I can't believe they did that.
Brad's wife Arlene shows us what they're pulling down.
Posters of Brad.
But they're not the ones printed by Brad.
These are posters making fun of Brad's campaign materials.
On Brad's real poster, it said committed to transparency.
But here, beside Brad's smiling head,
headshot, it says election tampering 101.
They believe Melinda is behind these posters.
We spent hours to make them all nice and with Brad's views on the side, but she defamed them,
so I'm just going to throw them in the fire.
We all watch as the posters burn.
Not the start to the healing event they'd been hoping for.
It's 6 p.m. now.
Two hours left at the polls and still no sign of the cult.
We do a final check-in at Jody's war room.
The room has filled up, and everyone seems tense.
They just had a whole bunch of people come in.
So right now they have 42, and we have 37, 6 unknown.
They have approximately two votes left to come on my list that could possibly be theirs,
and we still have 14 to come.
That healthy lead they'd been sure of all day has slipped right through their fingers.
Jody looks shaken.
Then Melinda enters.
She doesn't look at me, but sits at the other end of the table across from my producer Pippa.
I text Pippa under the table.
You talk to Melinda.
Okay, wait, what are you making?
Clamine.
What's it?
It's a clamorine.
What is it?
Clamato juice and beer mixed together.
Clamine.
As she drinks what might be the most Canadian cocktail ever, she's busy typing on her phone.
Are you getting the vote out on your phone?
No, I do the memes.
I'm search queen and then I'm also the meme queen.
Can you show me your artwork?
Okay.
She turns her phone around and shows the poster we just saw Brad's supporters
ripping down at the fire pit, election tampering for dummies.
Everyone in Jody's war room is very aware of the clock,
which now reads 7 p.m.
Only one hour left before the polls close,
and the numbers aren't going,
Jody's way. Tom took sure the ex-mayor and Jody's right-hand man makes a phone call. He has a
quiet conversation and then I see him hang up. Who is that? Rick, Matt's. What did you say?
We need a couple more votes. Time to call the queen. Tom said it's time to call the queen.
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I'm standing outside the Richmond Community Center, and the votes are being tallied.
next to me is Brad's wife, Arlene.
It's pitch blackout and freezing cold.
We aren't allowed inside the building,
so we're all peering through the front windows, shivering.
Some of Brad's supporters crack jokes about what could happen
if the vote doesn't go their way.
Oh my goodness, we're going to storm the capital.
Yeah.
We can storm the Capitol.
Brad and Jody sit at a table facing away from the window
and toward the elections officer
who is counting each.
ballot by hand. She holds up each ballot for the candidates to see. We can't hear anything,
so we resort to reading body language. Brad's wife decodes.
Oh, he's laughing. Oh, he's stretching. It's a weird face.
On Brad's face? Yeah. What do you mean it's a weird face?
I don't know. Not outing, just...
Maybe he's trying to be nonchalant. You should have had a secret code or something.
After a few more minutes, the vote count finishes.
The candidates stand up.
I can't really tell if Brad looks happy or not.
He looks serious yet.
Brad and Jody shake hands, exchange a few words.
They exit in silence, both wearing poker faces.
Jody walks over to the crowd of reporters.
Brad and Wade,
We're re-elected.
Jody lost.
Brad has won.
And it's awkward.
Clearly something went down behind the glass.
Jody walks to his car, stone-faced and defeated,
as Brad gives us the final count.
60 for me, 42 for him.
Nine more than I thought.
He expected a stronger lead over Jody.
And he explains the tense conversation he has.
had with Jody right after the result.
But we are called out right away and you got to make this town better and there were some bad
stuff said.
It's just, it'll never end with it.
That's Jody revving his engine and he drives off.
This is not the celebratory moment I was expecting.
But then we hear as Brad's supporters get the news.
Brad's mood immediately lifts.
His win is starting to sink in.
How's your heart doing now?
Good. I'm relieved. I'm going fishing tomorrow. I'm going to go down and have a beer here.
Hopefully you guys all come over.
We set off for the fire, hearing Brad's supporters cheering from blocks away.
Meanwhile, Jody's supporters are still in his war room on the edge of town, still in the dark about the results.
My producer Pippa is there, recording Jody's supporters.
Jody parks on the gravel and gets out of his car.
He walks towards the building, slowly, his head down.
Someone swings the door open, and the room goes silent as he approaches.
Final talent.
Miller's 60, me 42.
I just lost all hope of the future.
And Jody tells the group his version of the conversation he had with Brad after the result.
I offered Brad, I said, Brad, I hope you can bring these people together.
And he said, there's only one.
You're it.
Jody points at Melinda Fisher, who finds this very funny.
You're the sole problem of this town.
And I said, I got 42 votes.
What about the other 40-some people?
No, there's no other problem other than Melinda.
The room is an uproar.
Fuck sakes.
I think you need to object.
I think some of the people maybe that we thought we're voting for him.
He said, yeah, we got to try.
How do you feel?
Pissed off, really pissed off.
Because there's people that said they were voting for Jody that clearly didn't.
They lied.
They expected a tight race with a Jody win.
Then he lost by 18 votes.
So something definitely went wrong in their polling.
But it's also possible they were banking on 12 voters that never showed up.
Queen Romana and her followers.
That would have made the race close enough to recount, maybe even contest.
But even after Jody's team called Ricky for help, the cult stayed put in the school.
Oh, fuck, if they'd come, you'd be fucking out of the water.
Done.
If they would have come.
There wouldn't even be a...
The Queen of Canada doesn't vote in a little village.
She's the queen.
They don't vote anywhere.
They don't believe in that.
That's what I mean.
My producer Pippa sits with Melinda, who chimes in.
She doesn't vote.
You guys ever feel tempted to like ask?
I did ask.
I asked, Lee Moumane, if she would consider voting.
To ensure that Jody would get in, because they do not have any use for Bradfordville.
She actually went to the school to plead her case.
I just basically said we really need to get brought out.
We need to change the government.
Well, it's illegal to vote.
And zero of politics.
Zero religion.
Melinda is quoting one of Queen Romana's slogans, zero politics, zero religion.
And then she threw at me, well, who do you want me to save?
The country or the world or Richmond.
That's it.
Melinda risked a lot to give the cult voting rights, putting them on the title to her land
and making real enemies of her neighbors.
So do you feel let down by it at the school?
Absolutely, I do. I feel very little.
I think I'm going to keep my distance.
Yeah, I think they'll get the message.
I'm not going to be so willing to help him.
Melinda says she's going to keep her distance from the cult now.
But she says she'll keep them on the title to her lot,
the one right in the middle of town.
It still will be a thorn in Brad's thigh
because it just makes them permanent residence here.
I will never solve that lot.
It will always be mine.
And she says she's not going anywhere.
Honestly, they're going to have to kill me to get rid of me.
I head over to the fire at Heritage Park,
where a couple dozen people have gathered to celebrate Brad's win,
and the party is on.
We could hear the cheers from the building.
So I'm like, I'm running to you.
And then I went down the wrong street.
The fire is roaring and everyone's getting a little tipsy.
I've never seen Rich Mound come together like this.
Brad and Jingwai.
Is everyone relieved?
Happy?
Yes.
These are our people.
This is this.
I'm going to cry.
I am.
I'm going to cry.
I'm going to cry because you're going to cry.
We're all going to cry.
Brad and his wife Arlene walk up to the fire, arm in arm.
Here he comes.
Yay.
Congratulations.
the purse lady.
Thank you for all coming out and voting.
I think we broke a record probably across the world.
Probably four people didn't vote in Richmond.
We're going to go forward and we're going to make it positive
and we're going to try to put the U back in Richmond.
Yes.
Well, first things first, how about a kiss for the real queen?
Brad kisses Arlene.
So like I said, I appreciate you guys up to the sky down the same.
Brad, we appreciate you.
We love you.
Thank you for standing up for us and fighting the good fight.
Thank you, Brad.
I noticed that school teacher, Shauna Seine, is smiling ear to ear.
I've never seen her so happy.
Hi, Shauna.
How are you feeling?
I'm just, I'm so excited.
I'm so relieved.
Yay.
Christmas is coming and the goose is getting fat.
Woo!
Shawna says this will reinvigorate her and Brad's mission of getting Queen Romana and the cult gone.
How could he not have felt beaten down over the last year in not feeling like we had anything to signify accomplishment of working against this evil force, this evil, illegitimate and fake force?
So this, yeah, this is a huge step.
The anti-cult side had won the election.
But once the fire had died down and the hangovers had worn off, it was clear that not much had changed.
The town was still divided, and Queen Romana and her cult were still bunkered down in the school.
It would take something much bigger, something much more serious than an election, to finally get them out for good.
We have a warrant.
They have a warrant for what kind of warrant.
they have.
Please have phone down.
You're under her own.
Down underground.
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If you're enjoying this show, consider checking out another series from CBC.
I really enjoyed one called Sea of Lies.
In this series, host Sam Mullins guides us through the case of a con man who couldn't stop lying.
It's a story about stolen identities, fine art, a diaper stuffed with gold bars, and a crime solved by a Rolex watch.
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