Undoctrinate Yourself - #27 - Angie Chek

Episode Date: March 12, 2025

Angie Chek is a shaman, Chek practitioner and faculty member, and certified nutritionist and personal trainer.Angie's Instagram @1anginator www.instagram.com/1anginatorAngie's website: https://angiesworld.ptenhance.com/Follow the podcast on Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@undoctrinateyourselfpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Dr. Alexis on Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@dralexisjazmyn⁠

Hello everyone and welcome back to Undoctrinate yourself. Today I have an absolutely iconic guest for you. This is Angie Chek. She and her husband Paul Check have been absolutely transformational in my life. Their work is so, so deep and important and has really shaped my trajectory in so many ways. So it's a real honor to have her here today. For those of you who maybe don't know Angie, Angie is a nutritionist, personal trainer, Czech practitioner, a holistic lifestyle coach, Czech faculty member, and a shaman who completed a three-year training through the foundation for demonic studies, among other things. I could probably continue on for about 10 minutes or more with all the things that she's accomplished in her life. But first of all, I just want to welcome you, Angie, and I'm so glad to have you on today. Thank you for having me. Yeah, it's a real pleasure. So before we started recording, we were talking a little bit about your book series coming out, and it occurred to me that

one of the first things I wanted to ask you that has been on my mind, and I've heard you speak on other podcasts about this, but it would be great to hear on this show as well. is that how did your trajectory into this area shape? You have your hands in many different areas. And some are very unique. Like you don't, you know, necessarily see shamans every day. So how did this even enter your radar and what motivated you to pursue this line of work? Yeah.

So, you know, it starts from childhood, you know, and I was very intuitive back as a child. And I sometimes would know things without knowing how I knew, you know, like a precognition thing. and it was kind of poo-poohed when I was growing up because I tell a story often about my grandmother when she was really worried about her best friend. And at the time, my grandmother was living with us, and I was about five years old. And I remember I was coloring at the dining room table, and she comes out, and she's like, oh, I'm so worried about my friend and this and that. And I pause, and I just get this intuitive hit, like her friend's going to be passing on.

I said, well, don't worry, Grandma, she'll be dying soon. And I kept in drawing, and she comes out to me, she's like, how dare you say, that and I looked at her and like what did I say something wrong you know and she could she storms out of the room and I was like huh and I just kept in drawing well the following week goes by and her friend does pass away and my grandmother came up to me and she's like you did this you did this you did her that and so there was part of me that went did I do this like you know that never occurred to me that by saying something that was it wasn't wishing it on her I was just seeing it you know and so I felt horrible about it but she blamed me in a way

So I pushed away these kind of gifts and thought if I have visions like that, don't say anything about it because people will think it's me who's doing it. You know, it was kind of a rough kind of feeling as a five-year-old. So I remember like I was raised Catholic, very strict Catholic. And so a lot of things that I was intuitively going towards in my life, they were like, no, no, you can't do that. You don't, you don't do that. We don't talk about that.

And so I just kind of pushed away my talents to later. And I remember it wasn't until my teen years where you kind of like rebel against your parents, you know, and start secretly playing with the Ouija board or started playing with tarot cards and kind of went, wow, this is really cool. And it wasn't until college that I really started, you know, working with herbs and things and working how, like, what could heal my body and finding about herbal medicines. And it just kind of shaped my way. And then as I, you know, went to college, I went to college for biology. And then I was, you know, once I graduated, I really started kind of figure out who I was in my life. And that's when I was like, I want to take these courses.

And I remember, and I think it's a good message for your audience is when you have an intuitive hit to take class, don't wait for other people to join you. Because I remember even when the check courses, I wanted to take the check courses. And I was like, I'm going to take these courses. And my friends are like, oh, yeah, that'd be so much fun. And they're like, oh, no, I don't have the money. Or I don't have that time this and that. And there was so many excuses. And I was delaying the opportunity to learn earlier because I was waiting for a friend. And in my mind, I thought, everybody goes to these courses with a friend. I can't go alone.

That would be crazy. And so finally one day I just kind of like, screw it. I'm going to do it myself. And I started taking courses and empowering myself. And I'm like, this is the way to do it. It's just just be assertive. And then I realized most people take courses by themselves. And so I went to the Czech training.

Then I was like, oh, I'm going to study other things like shamanism. And I decided just go to San Francisco by myself. And so here I was as a young girl. my own flight there and own hotel room and staying at this place. And I was like, that's how it started. It was just taking the initiation, the action by myself and just started to just go to classes and say, I need to learn this. I want to learn. And it just took me on my course. And I was sharing a little bit before we started talking on here on your podcast that I'm writing a book about my life. And it's an inspirational memoir. And it's all about this about how we have to just

look at our lives in a different lens. Like everything that's happened to, me. I look at it in a positive way. Even the worst things. Sometimes we say, oh, this is so terrible. God was, you know, shaming me or God was punishing me or something. And it's like, no, everything that's happened to you is creating the person you're supposed to become. It's making you stronger. You know, and when you learn what's the lesson from every struggle, it takes you to that next level in your life. And so your life just opens up for you. And so my book is about that. Like all these things that happen as a child and what they meant. And later, it comes up that they mean even deeper meanings and sometimes a third meaning, a fourth meaning.

So my book series, I'll introduce certain things that happened in my life. And it's like later, it's like, oh, wow, if that didn't happen to Angie, that would have been able to happen. And then later you go, oh my gosh, if that didn't happen, that wouldn't have happened. And you can see this spiral effect of all the choices we make and how it can lead you to this amazing life. I love that so much. And it definitely rings true for my experience as well. It's like there's a quote from Jung about fate and like basically you being able to acknowledge that the unconscious patterns that are running are kind of guiding your life. And if you bring conscious and awareness to that, then you can actually begin to create your own existence through like an autonomous way.

And I think it's such an empowering take, especially in this culture that is largely centered around like being the victim, let's say, especially like the modern medical approaches where it's like there's this daddy figure doctor and you're going to them to be healed versus like going to somebody who will help you heal yourself. It's always like giving the responsibility to somebody else to do the work, not realizing that you doing the work is the healing process on every level, whether it's obviously like physical or emotional, spiritual, mental on all of those levels, like doing the work actually creates the pipes that allow you to, you know, expand yourself and to grow. And so it's, it's just like a very beautiful sentiment. It's, I think, something everybody will be able to relate to.

Thank you. Yeah. So why shamanism? And maybe first, what is shamanism for people who don't know? Yeah. So shamanism, there's so many definitions that I change my definition every time based on how I feel the audience will perceive it. So, you know, what I'm feeling to tell you is shamanism, if you think about like thorough world countries, we think that they're primitive, but what they are is they're closer to nature. And these cultures connect to spirit. What that means, they connect to the spirit of the land, the animals, the plants. And so a person who has a strong ability to connect to these elements and get messages from them would be considered a shaman. And so the shaman is often someone who may be isolated in the community, doesn't necessarily be the center of the community. They like to be a little bit more reserved up in the, you know, in the meadows or up

in the mountains and you seek them out when there's a challenge in your life. And the shaman can look basically in you and through you to figure out of balance in you and so that you can heal. And so the shaman may get you herbs or work with the animal spirits or connect to, you know, different things that happen to you, maybe soul retrieval. I do a lot of that where you go in and pick up the parts of you that have been fragmented through your personal experiences in your life. And a lot of these things that are happening, people with soul loss, particularly, when you have soul loss, you lose a lot of your life force and your vitality. And so you think about your soul and your body. They should be like a hand in a glove, a perfect fit. But when we

have soul loss, now there's like holes in your pockets in your body. And that leads room for other things like disease and illness or entities. And so a shaman can help figure out where those holes are and help you bring those parts back that have been missing. And when you bring those parts back, now you're fully in the present, in the now. And a lot of times people say, I can't be in the now because my mind keeps going back to this event. That's an indication that there was soul lost there. It's like it's bringing you back. Why? Because there's part of you that's still living in that moment again and again and again and be living some horrible thing that might have happened to you and you can't be present because that piece is still there. And so as a shaman, we go back.

We pick up those fragments and we bring you into the now and so that you can fully empower the moment and be who you're supposed to be on this planet. Yeah, that's beautiful. So I was going to ask you, we'll get into like soul spirit and how they relate to each other. But I wanted to ask while we're on the topic of soul retrieval, what are some, so are they usually like traumatic experiences that create this soul loss phenomenon in specific areas of the body or are there other types of experiences somebody might have that can create that effect? Yeah, so it can be any time in your life where you wanted to die. So there's times you felt like you didn't belong, maybe at a holiday celebration with the family and people are shutting you and you're like, this is my own family members. I'm like the black sheep and that feeling like I just wish I could fly out of here. Well, there might be part of you that did. Could be times when you were scared to death, maybe in a car accident or walking down an alley and maybe someone pointed a gun at you. It could be times where you almost died, like maybe a drowning or you had a big fall. and you thought you were going to die. Those would be times where soul loss might occur because the body, in my book,

my second book is on death and dying. It talks about what happens to you when you die. And what I've discovered through practice and working with people, not practice of my death, but other people's deaths. When this body dies, there's two things that happen. Either the soul ejects itself from the body and the body cannot live without a soul,

so then it goes to the death process. Or you don't want to die, and the soul is trying to hang on to a body, body and you're trying to desperately reclaim your health to the point where your body can't and then the soul has to leave. So it either dies, the soul leaves after the body's dead or it pops out and then the body dies. And so those are two things that can happen. So if your body, your body thinks it's going to die, the soul might leave because it's thinking, oh my gosh, this car accident's going to kill me. I don't want to feel the impact and it shoots out of the body, but then you survive.

there's part of that soul still hanging out because it didn't think you were going to make it. And you might have to go back and pick it up. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So what a physical injury also potentially creates a loss? Like if let's say there's like issues in the fascia or there's like a, you're avoiding a certain feeling a certain area because you have chronic pain in that area. Would that also be an indication? Yeah, absolutely.

And when we don't love ourselves. So if you're going, ooh, I hate my tummy. Oh, I don't like my butt. I don't like my thighs. you're pulling out your soul from those parts of your body. And so those parts don't get better, they get worse because there's no vitality in them. And so the next thing you know, the butt is bigger. The abs are more distended.

And it's why? Because it's almost my analogy is like if you had a child who was sick. If your child's sick, you want to pick him up and cradle him, hug him and rub his head and give him, you know, chicken soup and tell him to feel better. But would you sit there and tell you, if your child came at mom, I don't feel well, would you smack them and spank them and say, I don't like you, go away. But that's what we're doing to our bodies. Your body's saying, hey, there's something that's irritating me. Therefore, I'm inflamed. You know, my thighs are bigger because the food you eat or maybe I have a reaction to.

I'm intolerant to that food and you're eating it and my body's having a hard time breaking it down. And instead, you're like, let's just suck this out or let's just starve ourselves. And you're doing this, you know, against your body, like an attack mode instead of loving yourself and saying, how can I heal this? How can I make it better? What am I doing that's maybe disturbing the energy in this part of my body? Yeah, getting curious about that. And that's something super relatable for me. I was just talking about this on my Instagram not too long ago that something that I've really been doing for the past like year and a half is like a lot of sunbathing and specifically like on my abdomen because I mean, anybody who's listening will know the science of it by now, but you can basically

get a lot of like biochemical and hormonal benefits by exposing the skin of the abdomen because there's special neurons under that skin. And I went through like a hundred pound weight loss journey like 13 years ago and I had to have a lot of blue skin on my stomach. And it's always something that I hid in the past because I was ashamed of it. And then as soon as I started like developing a relationship with the sun and exposing my gut and my belly to the sun, it completely changed like my relationship with that part of my body and made me just embrace that part of my body more. And it also, I literally can see a difference in the way that it looks too. It looks better. It looks healthier because I'm not hiding it. I'm not like ashamed of it.

anymore. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, it's amazing. You know, our bodies are always, you know, sharing, you have a connection, a relationship. And people think, what's the relationship? What's your soul and your body having a relationship? You know, you say, my hand. It's like, who owns the hand, your soul? And so you're having a human experience because of that body. And so you're thinking, well, I want to do all these things. Well, that's the soul's urge to do something. And the body is just trying to do all those things you want to do. So if you don't have a relationship, the body breaks down and says, hey, you're killing me. You need to eat. You need to sleep. You need to exercise. You need to rest. And if you're not doing those things, the body says, I'm a living thing and you're abusing me.

Absolutely. I wanted to bring up an anecdote. I remember, I believe it was an episode that you did with Paul on his podcast about an example of soul loss where I believe it was a woman and she had like these really frail legs that like weren't building muscle even though the rest of her body was quite fit. And I don't remember if it was you or Paul that saw her soul like floating above her body that was she was basically disabiding. I think it was a car accident maybe something like this happened and that once you did the sole retrieval process, her legs like filled out almost immediately. Yeah, absolutely. 100%. That was a Paul story. But yes, yeah, he was his client and he actually did a retrieval and the energy came back in and it was just almost instantaneous. You can see that happening.

And I've had stories of women with, it can be men too, but particularly women, we come to me and go, my thighs or my butt. And we work on what could have caused that loss and they see the changes. And then all of a sudden their body starts to go back to its ideal weight. Yeah. What I share a lot on podcasts is the reason that happens is because when the soul's fully anchored the body, the body is anchored to the earth plane. But when the soul starts to leave the body, now the body feels threatened like it's leaving

the earth plane. So it will hold on to weight. to help ground it onto the earth plane. And so as we bring that soul back, then the body no longer needs to hold on to extra weight. Wow, yeah, that's powerful. I'm wondering, does that also work in the reverse direction? Like, if you become very ungrounded from the earth,

like physically, like you're not getting out into nature and, like, you're very cerebral and you're very in like the mental plane, can that also contribute to like a lack of embodiment from a soul perspective? Oh, 100%. Yeah, we see that a lot today as well. And people are like just like a kite. you know, flying in the wind and they're no longer present in their body. Yeah. And some, I mean, I think our culture's kind of set up for that too. Like everything is

very intellectual, very cerebral and there's just no respect or connection with nature that's really required for our physiology to work properly. So that makes a lot of sense. When you see soul loss, is the soul typically still local to that person? Or does it, can it go off somewhere else completely? Yeah. So oftentimes it's, it's, when we think of time, you know, it's actually, like linear and it's happening right now and that was the past but it's all happening at once and so when something happens to you there's that party that's still there so maybe when you were 13 you were in a car accident that party you still at the 13 years of age in that car accident and it's almost like i call it it groundhog's day where you're reliving that that part of your soul is reliving that event again and again

and again and again it's like stuck it's like it keeps it going on rewind instead of going forward, just get stuck, rewind, stuck rewind, and it plays that same footage over and over again. So you have to go back to that time we were 13 and bring back that part of you that says, hey, the accident's over now, time to come home. You know, I need you back. And you invite that part back and it leaves that and now that videotape that's been going on and on on is now canceled out and you're now living in the present. So those parts are lost in your past, but they're all happening simultaneously at once. But we go back to that event. and it brings it back to this event.

So everything syncs together. So it's kind of like glitches in the system and your computer. And after a while you have to close all the windows because there's too many windows up. You want to sync it so it's only one app open at a time. That makes perfect sense. And I'm also thinking like in a lot of accounts of, let's say like paranormal activity, that there's these spirits that are like living in these loops as well. Is that also an example of the soul loss?

Can the soul loss persist after death as well? Yeah, so if someone dies unexpectedly, you know, and so there's a story in my book about my grandmother, and it's a very powerful story about my grandmother. She got shot in the back during the Revolutionary War. And so she didn't know she died. And so she was dead and she was still stuck in that time period. And so when I went back, as I learned to be a shaman, I went to shaman school and I was in this death dying and beyond course. I was like, oh my gosh, my grandmother is still on that range. ranch. And so I remember going back to that ranch and saying, you know, went up to her, Giuseppo, Giuseppe, what are you doing here? She's like, well, I'm waiting.

I'm waiting for what? Well, I'm waiting for them to come back because they went to town while she was home with her newborn baby, which was my grandmother, this was my great-grandmother, and they shot her and killed her. And so she was still there waiting, stuck. And so when you do this kind of work, when I went to shaman school, we did a lot of this called psychopump work. The Catholic Church used to do a lot of it, but then they stopped doing it because I think, you know, it wasn't, they weren't getting paid for it. So it was like, oh, this is one of those useless things. We're not getting paid for it. Let's just stop doing it. But it's so important. So people get stuck in the middle world. What we're living on is the

middle world. So it's here in the living beings and then ghosts and things that we see, those spirits can be stuck in that world. And they could be from, who knows, 100 years old, 200, 300, they can be as beginning of time, these ghosts that are just still running the world thinking it's still their time, but it's been years and years, decades, you know, centuries later. And so there's a lot of people stuck in that middle world. So major events, 9-11, you know, any kind of, there's a lot of death. There'll be souls still stuck there. And so that's what the work of a shaman would do is go back and bring back your family

members and rescue them in a per se and release them from that stuck moment. That's beautiful and very important work. I feel like we don't have, well, reverence for or even acknowledgement of shamans and our current culture, right, even though it's been such an integral part of basically all ancestral cultures, that we don't really have that level of connection with other worlds outside of our own and that it's, I mean, obviously to our detriment. But have you seen that there's like an increase in the amount of soul loss and issues at this level with our current society? Or what, are there any trends that you've noticed? Yeah, I think there's always been

soul loss. Anything traumatic, you know, it's the nature of the universe is to have events in our life that creates stress in us. And sometimes you'll find people have more stress in their life because a lot of them are very big light beings. They have a lot of power in them. And the dark forces of the world don't want those light beings to participate. They don't, they want to shoot them down. So they might have major traumatic events in an early age for that very reason. It's like, oh, let's get that bright, shiny one now because if that one becomes an adult, we got our work cut out because there's too much light in the world. So you'll find that some very bright, very light beings are the ones that are being attacked because they're

emanating so much energy that, you know, think about it. If you were in the dark side, you would say, hey, let's get the most powerful people off the planet or disrupt them in such a way that they don't remember what they came here to do. Yeah, I mean, it kind of seems like right now there's like a big rising up since COVID at least of, like, let's say these light beings, for example, I see a lot of people coming out and speaking about truths that were always kind of kept into the shadows in the past and that finally people are waking up at like a very like rapid pace relative to pre-COVID times and I think that was like such an incredible catalyst for us societally to really begin to make the important changes we need to make to kind of reroute our

trajectory because the way that we're going isn't sustainable yeah 100 percent so a lot of times we go oh my gosh these horrible things and this is so terrible there's always the light so the dark always exposes the light. So before COVID, we didn't know who was the bad guys on the planet, and it exposed them. And so now we're very aware of the key players who are causing chaos in our lives. And so we thank that event because they created that event, but it also created the awareness of who they were and what they're doing. Absolutely. So to circle back, I mean, we talked about soul loss quite a bit, but maybe we should, can we define what a soul is and then also what a spirit is and how they relate to each other. Yeah, okay. So the soul is the part of you, the non-physical

you that lives forever. Okay. So when our body dies, the part that lives on is our soul. Okay. So sometimes you'll see a child that knows a lot of stuff as a young age. Like, wow, it's usually, you know, an old soul. Sometimes we say, oh, that's an old soul. They have wisdom beyond their years. Or a prodigy child who's immediately like three years old and gets on the piano and starts just playing the piano. It's like, God, they do that. Those are old souls. And so the soul has, when we die, the only thing we take on back is our information. So when we come to this planet, we can't take our shoes. We can't take our house. But the information is stored in our, in our soul. And so that information can be transferred on to our next lifetime. And that's why sometimes you say,

oh, gosh, I took a class and you do so well in it. And someone says, well, you must have studied really hard. And sometimes you go, I've had times where I go, you know what? it wasn't me learning. It was me remembering. You know, it's like, and I know in my past life, I've been a farmer. And so in this lifetime, now I have chickens and goats and I, and I have pigs. And I just know how to do things. We're like, how did you do that? I'm like, well, I watched this video on YouTube and I knew how to do the hooves on the animal. Like, you watched a video once and you know, I'm like, but I just knew. You know, it's like, now I can milk a goat. And Paul grew up on a farm. And he's like, you are really good at milking goats. And I'm like, I just know. And I just,

I am because it was this intuitive knowing. So that's part of my soul path of saying, you've done this before. You know how to do this. So the soul is that part that lives on. Spirit is characterized as there are characteristic of who you are. So when I say, oh, Alexis, I love your spirit. That's who you are. It's like your personality, you're the character that embodies you. So we have a spirit, you know, and so that spirit is also the non-physical us, but it's the characteristics of our personality. And so that's our spirit. Right. And so, yeah.

Great. Oh, go ahead. Sorry. We could even go deeper and saying that we have an ego as well. You know, and the ego and the soul are like two sides to a coin. So when we take on an earth experience in a human body, our soul and the ego are like two sides of a coin. So they're like attached together. And so we have ego and soul.

And so the ego is also part of our who we are. when we die, the ego and the soul split and then you're like, oh, you're pure consciousness and that's, you know, that's God, you know, and so we realize that our soul is that part of us, that's God that's in each and every single one of us. Would you say that it's fair to say that the ego is concerned with survival and the soul is concerned with evolution? The ego is concerned with anything that you think is important. Okay. And that's an important thing to knowledge. So if you say, I'm not good enough, your ego is there to make sure you're not good enough. If you say, I'm amazing, your ego is there to

make sure you're amazing. And that's why a lot of successful people, you go, oh, they got such a big ego. Well, yeah, because they believed in themselves. And the ego now believes in it too. So your ego's there to make sure that everything you see in the world is accurate and true. So if you say, nobody cares about me, the ego is there to make sure nobody cares about you. And so your perception will change on that observation and the ego is going to point out all the times people are unloving towards you. But if you change that perception, you change their mind, the ego is now going to take on your new mindset. And that's why it's important to say, wait, what am I thinking? Because my ego is going to make sure. If you say, oh, people are so nice and loving, the ego is going to change its mind too because

that's what it's designed to do. And now you're going to be like, wow, all these people are so friendly to me. People are giving and they're sharing things. And that's amazing. Yeah, that's really true and I feel like basically you're just always looking for evidence for your preconceptions and depending on what those are if you have evidence for you know the darkness in the world then that's all you're going to see because that's what you're preconditioning yourself to notice versus having having that belief be something more positive in life affirming will allow you to see all of those things and so that really I mean there's so much that can go into that right because like if somebody's body is really unhealthy and they're like very dysregulated from a nervous system standpoint there might be inclined to look at

more of the negative aspects of life just because they're in this kind of survival state. Yeah, 100%. So, you know, that's why it's important to take care of our health because if we don't have our health, your attitude changes. And your attitude now says, oh, life sucks. And the ego goes, you're right. Life is horrible, right? And so, and we can feel bad for people who were born into that position. Sometimes a soul takes on a harder path and it's born into a position that they think life is terrible. And when you see people with those handicaps or those diseases, when they're born that way and rise above it, that's even more empowering because they had to change that and they didn't know anything but pain and disease or unhealthy lifestyle. So yeah. So as it relates to ego and soul,

what are some ways that people can use to distinguish between which voice is talking to them? Okay. So, you know, the ego is only about, it's usually about materialism, you know, you know, gain you before somebody else will kick someone over so you can do better, you know, that kind of thing. And the soul is never going to be that. Soul is there to guide you, but it only guides you when you want to, if you listen to it, it will not tell you what to do, but if you ask for soul guidance, it's always there. It's in the background. And so if you feel this, oh, you got to go do something, it's like, maybe that's my ego, because my soul's not going to have that, but there might be an urge inside me. So it's a gentle pool saying, go take that class,

or go speak to that person. The ego is out for itself sometimes, you know, because you've already told it what you want. I want to be super wealthy and super rich or whatever it is. And so the ego is going to find ways to do that even though if they're not humane or gentle or it might even cause bad karma on you. So the way to do that is start listening to that voice and say, okay, well, what happens when it happens if I do listen to it? And if I have a reaction, And that's, you now feel bad about it. Oh, I shouldn't have done that. Well, that was your ego because your soul is not going to lead you down harm's way.

And so as you start listening, say, well, let me see if that's true. Sometimes doing things gently like in HLC training, which is a Czech Institute course that I teach. It's called holistic lifestyle coaching. We do levels one, two, and three. They're actually for everybody, not just for coaches. But in level two training, we teach you how to do soul connection and you connect your soul. And you start off with simple questions. Like, so should I eat this cookie, right?

And so that's not going to kill you unless you're a gluten intolerant, you need a weak cookie or something maybe. But, you know, you would choose something that you could get away with is say, should I eat this or should I eat that? And you get a yes or no response. Should I have another cup of coffee, you know? And so yes or no response. And then when you get a response, you have the ability also to override that and say,

I want another cookie or I want another cup of coffee. And then note how you feel. I go, oh, you know, like we sometimes joke Paul will say, I want this food. Like he doesn't eat a lot of dessert, but sometimes a gluten-free, something will show up in our house. And he'd be like, ask his soul, can I have this? And his soul will say, yes. And you'll go, okay, how many? One.

Okay, I eat one cookie. Oh, that was so good. So can have another? No, that's not a good idea. Oh, screw it. I'm going to have another one. The next day, like a pimple on his face. And he'll be like, oh, man, he goes, I should have listened to my soul.

but he realized that, well, the soul was guiding me and I chose differently. And so that's how you'll know. You know, it's like you hear a voice that says, don't do it and you do it. And then you have like gas or inflammation or something happens from the food you chose. And then you say, soul was guiding me. I should have done that. And so we start off with the simple thing. So if you start off with like the food choices, should have chicken or beef tonight for dinner. Well, if you're not allergic to either one of those, either one will be fine, but maybe one is more beneficial. And as you start listening, you're guided in all sorts of directions. And so when the bigger decisions come and you ask for soul guidance, you're more likely to listen and heed that warning or listen to that advice

because you've built that relationship with your soul. But if you never do this and all of a sudden like, like for instance, we bought our house during COVID. Now is a really scary time. It's like, do we want to buy this, you know, millions of dollars house in the middle of COVID when the banks might be collapsing and everything? And we did Soul Connection and we said, should we buy this house? souls are yes, this is a good time to buy it. Like, okay, the world is telling us it's a horrible time, but our soul said yes, and it was actually in a beautiful time. So we went ahead and bought a house during, you know, COVID. It was April 6 of 2020. And it was actually a blessing in disguise because we bought this huge house on 14 acres of property. And there was so much to need to be done

when we bought it. And because everybody was losing their jobs in lockdown, there was so many workers that needed money. So they were like, yes, yes, we'll start tomorrow. And we had five or six different kinds of workers working on our property at the same time. And had this not been a COVID year, it wouldn't have been that way. It would been like, oh, yeah, we could do that. We were scheduled you in eight to ten weeks. You know, there would have been so many, you know, it would have been waiting for two or three months to get worked at. And everybody was at our house at once going, please help us. Well, yes, we'll work. So that was sole guidance. And it was a beautiful thing. So you start with the small things. And then when the big things come up, you're secure in what

that soul has to tell you. Yeah, I mean, just to share some ways that I've personally interacted with soul guidance, like I personally have always had a very strong like gut feeling, like my stomach. I literally will get sensation in my stomach towards like, let's say a life situation. For example, when I was finishing at my time at Princeton, I was set to go to do a postdoc at Harvard and it was like an integrative medicine program there and it was incredible. Like everything sounded amazing. I was so excited to go. And as the date was approaching, I'd committed to go, but I just got this feeling of dread. I would wake up in the morning with like a pit in my stomach.

And I, like, on one hand, I could just pretend I didn't know why I was feeling that way. Like, oh, you know, maybe I'm just coming down with something. But like, I knew that that was why. And I ended up calling it off. And it was like a lead weight got lifted off of me. And so that was just something like I just had to trust that. And I was getting physically ill. If I didn't trust that and if I went ahead with it, I can only imagine where that would have

escalated to. But I imagine there's other ways that the soul might, communicate like some people might experience a feeling in their physical body maybe they can also get communications through dreams or are there other other things as well yeah 100% all those ways your soul will try to connect to you any which way dreams are a popular one because it's when we're like in an unconscious state more receptive to this information so you're like oh had this crazy dream like i had a similar story when i was going to college i was going to go to uc Santa Barbara and i had these dreams of me drowning in the ocean again and again and and then i even saw myself at this dorm and

you know, like this campus. And when I had my, my first day, you know, where you go during the summer to see where you're going to live, my dorm room and everything, we had a tour, a tour guy's showing me. And when I walked into my room, there was, I was going to have two other girls in my room. And I was like, it was like little apartments, you know, complex. And this one had three bedrooms. And I'm like, that's my room. And I'm like, oh, and the girls like, oh, well, they have a sign where you're going to sleep right now, but you could be any of these rooms. But I knew which room was going to be mine. And it was creepy. Like, I knew where every. everything was in this place. I knew where the kitchen. I knew everything was. And then I knew where

the laundromat was, I knew, I was like, my mom's like, how do you know that? I'm like, I had dreams of this. And then we went to the beach. That's when I got the hair stuck up my arms. And I was like, this is where I've seen myself drown again and again and again. And so it was like, I can't go here. You know, and then I was still like, kind of you're like, I'm just going to go anyway, tough it out. This is just coincidental. And then there was this, it was during President Clinton's time, he had budget cuts. And he was like, sorry. So, I got this letter like a week or two before school started. It says, due to the Clinton budget cuts, you're going to have to pay a certain percentage because I had a, I was 2% in my honors of my graduating

high school class, top 2%. And so I had this almost full right scholarship to UC Santa Barbara. And they came back and says, oh, you're going to have to take out this $30,000 loan for college. And I just got kind of pissed off. And I'm like, screw it, I'm not going. But the real reason is that there was too much stuff I saw that I didn't like. I'm like, this is not my path. I'm not going there. And this is just one more reason not to go. And so I was like, I'm not going to Jaycee. My mom's like, okay. And she was happy because I stayed home a couple more years before I went to college. But I was like, I am not going. He was just so, you know, that feeling that was not right for me. Wow. Yeah. So it's, I have a question for you that's at some level. I mean, maybe you have some

insight on this. But so you're having these kind of visions or dreams of things going wrong there, like the drowning scene, let's say. How do you do? distinguish between something that's like inevitable versus something that you have control over. Like, for example, when you said that your grandmother's friend was going to die, you knew that was going to happen. How much flexibility is there? Do you have a sense of that? Okay. Well, if it's inevitable in your life, you probably won't dream about it. Okay. It's kind of like this is when she needs to go. There's nothing to do. Dreams are usually unfinished business or something you can change. You know, so it's not going to tell you

usually when you're going to die unless you're ready to die. But if you had a dream when you're young, you're not going to want to, you're usually not ready to die. So that would be alarming and perhaps give you an opportunity to change gear so you choose a different path. Right. And so that's the difference. So if there's a, there's movement, room for change, like you're collapsing a field says, okay, this is a possibly to die here. But if you don't, you can live another 40 years, then you'll have a dream about it. Or you'll have some kind of spirit show up in your life, you know, or some kind of intervention like angels show up a lot of times people go oh this random person just met me in the bookstore and gave me this book or gave me this advice or in the elevator somebody said some to me that made me

think differently i don't know who that person is i've never seen him again chances it was an angel guiding you and just giving you that happens i have clients tell me that all the time oh it was in the grocery store and somebody came up to me and said something and it just triggered me and now i feel better about this and it's like the right time the right place the right words those are usually angels that show up in our path. So there are guides in our life and there are people that there is intervention so that we do do what we came here to do. But if it's time for us to go, usually that you're not going to get those signs because it's like, hey, you've done your work. There's nothing to do here. And we're going to, the soul is going to leave at that time. That makes a lot of sense.

And I think it's so interesting to think about too, because if you're, let's say, leading with your ego and kind of ignoring the cues that you're getting from your life that are kind of trying to direct you in a specific area or towards a specific path and you're kind of going against it. It just, I feel like life becomes more and more difficult. You're really like white knuckling your way through in order to follow a path that you think that is meant for you versus what's actually meant for you. And that once you make the pivot to just like following those golden threads that kind of show themselves, that everything gets more effortless. and there's also like this deep level of trust that comes over you because it's no longer like you intellectualizing your way through life. It's like there's some level of knowing that there's like this bigger picture and you're moving in the right direction and you get all these

synchronicities and things like this like Jung talks about. And yeah, I just feel like it's a much more magical way to live life. And it's it's just everything comes together like a symphony almost that's in support of you living up to your potential. Yeah, absolutely. In the Czech Institute, we talk about the pain teacher. And the pain teacher is usually, you know, when you're supposed to do something different, go a different direction. It's kind of like a knock on the door. Hello, time to go. You know, and you listen to it's a more persistent knock, right? And then the next thing you know, it's like the door slamming you in the face or the next thing, it's a car accident that changes your life. And it's

like, how many times do you have to ignore the knock before the pain teacher has to, you know, up the volume so that you pay attention, right? And then when you do pay attention, you say, There's time, like you're just sailing with life and life becomes almost easy. There are times where it's like there are challenges, but there's also, you know, it's like I tell people have a dream and follow it because if you don't work, if you're not living your dream, you're living someone else's. So if you're working at like McDonald's, well, they're going to have challenges that you may not care about.

Oh, the fire needs to change its oil or the toilet's backlogged or something. You're like, ah, that's not something I want to do. But if you're a carpenter and you love carpentry, you know, if you get a turpenter, might, you'll be like, hey, I have to figure out a way to settle this problem. So sometimes the universe makes sure you're still in the game. It's like, well, we're to throw something at you to see that's really what you want to do. And if you're quick to settle and go, no, no, I love this. I'm going to figure out the solution. That's how you know for sure that you're doing what you love to do because when challenges arise, you're willing to overcome them. When you're not willing,

that's when you have to stop and look at your life and go, why am I not participating in this? This means that I'm done with this particular aspect, this job or this career or this person in my life. And I need to move forward because now I'm stagnant. And stagnation causes disease and illness. Yeah. And then, I mean, that just really speaks to, again, like the standard medical approach in this country and in the West in general, that every time you get a symptom, you just numb it instead of attending to it and being like, hey, why is this showing up? What could be contributing to this? Whether it's something you're eating or some aspect of your lifestyle or some aspect of your relationships or your spiritual well-being or whatever.

it is that's contributing to like that dis-ease, well, you numb it and then it's just going to pop up somewhere else. And then you numb that and it's going to pop up somewhere else. And eventually it's going to be too big to ignore. Like it's a stage four cancer diagnosis when you could have addressed it decades before. 100%. Yeah. And you mentioned karma earlier. I'm just, I'm curious on your take on this. Do you think karma is collected within a lifetime or does it travel between lifetimes? It travels between lifetimes. So you can take on karmic debt from previous. this lifetimes and you're living this life. Sometimes I've had clients go, why is all this bad stuff happening to me? And we'll go back and do past life regression. And it could be that, hey, you actually

did bad things to people in your last lifetime. And you chose to take out of life and experience those things that you did to others so you know how much pain you put those people in. In past life, oh, do you want to describe a little bit about what past life regression is? Because I think it's really interesting. And a friend of mine has been engaging in it with you, actually. So I would love to hear a little bit more you can share with people if it's something you're interested in. Yeah, for sure. So past life regression is when I take you into like this trans like state and we go back and we go back in time per se and go into another lifetime. You step into your life and we look at it and see what were you doing. Were you a boy or a girl? What were you, where were you living?

What was happening in events in your life? And the idea behind is we go in with the intention of so it can help you in this lifetime. So is there something that happened? So most times, not most all the times I do this with intention, people will get nuggets of their life and go, oh my gosh, this is why. I had a client, he had problems with women, and he had to go back in life and figured out what happened to him in a previous lifetime. And once he discovered it wasn't this lifetime, he got over and then he had no issues with women anymore.

So you'll find something happened to you in that lifetime. And now it's like, ah, you'll find sometimes you're with the same relationship in a lifetime. It's just different scenarios with the same person. And you're like, oh my goodness, this is like a soulmate that we happen to take on different lifetimes together. Other times that will help you understand. It's like, I got to get out of this relationship. I keep on finding my way into this guy's life and I don't want to.

So by ending it in this lifetime, you get rid of the contract with that person. And that way your next life, you can guarantee that you will not be with that person anymore. So you learn all sorts of information by going into the past. Sometimes it can be very unique. Like I share a story about a client I had I was working with for years. You know, just I do coaching. So we work on lifestyle management and things. And over time, you get to, it's like when you, when I coach, it's like, I'm peeling an

onion. You think of a layer. And this is my problem, Ange. And then you get rid of that problem. It's like, oh, I have this other layer. And then have this other layer and you get deeper, deeper, deeper, deeper. And so after two years, she's like, you know, I never told you this. But every day at 2 o'clock, I have anxiety.

Like, what? She says, yeah, I even seen doctors and psychiatrists and things. But some reason it's like this intense anxiety. It lasts for 15, 20 minutes. And then I'm fine. And she was because of that, I work from home because at that time I take a break and I don't work because it's so intense and that goes away. And that was like, you know, that rings a bell and says that might be something from a past life. Let's go explore it.

And so we did past life regression and turned out she was a pilot in the war and got shot down at two o'clock in the afternoon. And her plane went into the ocean. And so there was a partner that, you know, didn't want to die. She was a young man at that in that lifetime. and it was not ready to die and was refusing death but did die. So it was almost like a past life and a soul retrieval at the same time because we had to reclaim that part of her that was still fragmented there, having the anxiety of something terrible happening that they couldn't get over.

And once we reclaimed that, the anxiety went away and never had anxiety again. Wow. So just bringing awareness to that aspect of herself or in general helps you to work through it and like break it up. Yeah, because once you're like, where is this coming from? When you don't know where it's coming from, it's just, it's stressful. And it's like there's no end to it or there's no reason why it's going to go away. But once you can identify the source, then it's like, oh, now I know, now I've had that. And it, you know, creates that awareness. And now it just like almost disintegrates that that issue goes away because you know why it was there. You're like, oh, how

silly of me. You know, and now I know why I don't trust people. Or now I know why I, you know, I get fearful of water. Now I know why I don't like fire. Now I know whatever it is because there might have been an event that created that from a previous time. Is there any similarity between that and like understanding what your karma, what karma you may be bringing in from another lifetime? Like, for example, like being able to bring awareness to some negative or bad behaviors you had in a previous lifetime is bringing awareness to that enough to move through it and pay it back or what does that look like? Yeah, sometimes. Well, because once you see it and you're like, aha now and sometimes you're like what was my what did I what was my sole contract in this lifetime so

there might have said I'm going to live a life of pain and just because this is what I want to feel because of the pain and suffering it did in other people's lives and now it's like okay now I know why and so now you're more compassionate to yourself because you're like okay this is a horrible life and I understand why I chose this lifetime and now I'm going to be able to fully repent because I feel the need to do this for my life and so it's a different you're taking it on versus I wanted to go away. You're like, oh, no, I chose this because, you know, and so that's their way of releasing that karma, you know, so yeah, and sometimes you'll see that once they've experienced and understand it, there's this, you can dissolve the contract then and say, okay,

I don't need to go through a whole lifetime. I have chosen, I see the light. I'm not that person anymore and I'm moving forward. And then you see that they release it and they do get better. Yeah, I was just going to ask you, like, because I remember you talking with Paul, I believe, on a podcast about like rewriting or like creating a new sole contract and how that's possible for people. I think that's really empowering but also extremely interesting. Yeah, sometimes we think we can only make our sole contracts in the afterlife, but you can actually work on those contracts in this life. So you don't have to wait until the life is over to create a new one. So if you come up with that mindset, remember the ego is always

right and say, oh, no, I have to wait till this life is over, then you're right. But if you say, know I can change it now. The Google goes, oh, yeah, you're right. I'll show you how. Is that something also that you do through your work in shamanism? Or is this another area that you learned through like a different schooling? Yeah, so personal experience. A lot of the things I've learned how to do are through personal experience.

And so that's what's amazing about it. It's just like I'm not reading a book all the time. I'm like, these are things I've seen or done in my own life. And that's how I gain the knowledge. Yeah, I mean, I think that's personally the most fun science to do. So like obviously I've had scientific training, but the most fun and amazing things, I feel like I've just discovered through my personal experience and like empirical research. And then being able to connect the dots and like inquire with other people like, hey, have you had this experience? And like, what can we learn from this is just so rewarding and interesting and highly valuable.

And it's highly devalued within like the science, like the scientism model, let's say, because everything is based on the randomized control trial that's average. a population together and it's not looking at the individual at all. It's completely throwing that information away and that's leaving people without tools that could actually help them specifically. And so I think it's incredible to be able to diversify the toolkit to be able to offer very personalized and very personal and and other approaches that are outside of the physical body even because there's a lot of things going on like we've been talking about that are outside the realm of the physical though they are communicating with all of the levels, correct? Correct. Yeah. And so,

if you work on the physical body and your health, that can help you also access your mental body and your etheric body and all of like astral body. There's a saying it says so above, so below. So if your mind is healthy, sick body, sick mind, and vice versa. So if you're, if you want to work on the upper levels, get your body healthy enough to do so. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So I want to make sure that we talk about biogeometry because it's something that I've been really interested in and and studying it kind of as like a side project for a couple years, but I know you've been very deep and immersed in it for a while now. So do you want to describe to people what biogeometry is

and how it can improve your life and how you use it in your practice? Yeah, sure. So biogeometry is a relatively new science that's based on old Egyptian techniques. And so the founder is Dr. Ibrahim Kareem, and he's in his 80s now. And his background is he was an architect. And he lives in Egypt, and his whole thing was he graduated with his architectural degree, and he wanted to discover why the pyramids in Egypt had healing properties. And what was it about their design that emitted this healing energy?

And so in his work, he went around to all these sacred sites around the world and tried to figure out what created a sacred site. And he figured out that there was three energies that come together to create a sacred site. So there's the higher harmonics of gold. So you see like in these churches, you see the gold halo. You also see the hiermonic of ultraviolet. That's the time when you see the sunrise or sunset. And how you do sun gazing and there's a healing property to that.

And then there's vertical negative green. And when these three colors get together, it creates and balances all energies in the system. So any biological system on the planet. So plants, animals, humans, we all benefit from this energy coming together. So biogeometry is the science of putting these energies together and learning how to harmonize your home life, you know, your garden, everything around you. So you can use energy. So it's a beautiful work because, you know, when the 5G towers started coming out, people are like, oh, let's blow those up. You know, they're so harmful for the environment. So Dr. Cream's all about

living with nature and living with technology and, you know, and allowing evolutionary growth, but balancing it so that it's beneficial and not harmful to our health. And so he found ways to balance 5G towers so that they actually emit healing energy versus cancer. energy. And so his first things was done in Hamburg, where's just Hamburg, Germany, but it's maybe Austria. It was either Germany or Austria, I think. Yeah, one of those. Yes. So it was this town of Hamburg. And so he created this thing called a Hamburg emitter. And it was based on shapes. And he was able to create these towers at first. And then he became these little small hemberg emitters where you could point it at the tower and offset and transmit the energy to

healing energy. And so all of a sudden, this town that would have all these cancer rates going up, people had tinnitus ringing in the ears, lots of leukemia, even the animals were sick. And as soon as he did this balancing of these 5G towers, everybody who had the ringing in the ears, it immediately stopped. And they're like, it's gone. What happened? It's gone. And they were to see it. And so, you know, the people who were like bah humming it said, oh, you know, it's placebo effect. And he was like, well, really? He goes, what about the animals? Is it? placebo effect for them too. So he went on to do research in animals. So he did on chickens and cows. And with the balancing of their barns or balancing of the farm, the animals would get better.

In a couple weeks, leukemia was gone. Blood was restored to healthy numbers. Chickens didn't need antibiotics. And we're seeing amazing things, even on fruit treats. Like he was to work on apples. And the apples were getting bigger. They were lasting longer without any preservatives on them. And they're like, how is this even possible? So in his journey, he also discovered these biosignatures. And what they are is these signatures of how the organs throw energy through them. So there are certain ways energy goes to the heart, certain energy, the ways it goes through your lungs or the liver, their intestines. And so he discovered these through old ancient manuscripts. And now he's able to create more of them. So he's constantly making new manuscripts. So there's a book called biosignatures that he's created. And so as you see these energies, these are, think about optimal ways energy goes through these organs. And when we're exposed to like Wi-Fi buzz, EMF pollutions, toxic food, radiated food, anything that's chemical, disturbing to the environment, our bodies are an energetic beam. So we disrupt that energy. Now our body has to refigure, if it scrambles up the energy, it has to

remember how to go through the heart or the lungs. And if it chooses a different pathway, that's a suboptimal pathway. Now it invites illness and disease because it's not the right way for energy to go through it. And so when we trace these signatures on a person's body or we create things called an emitter, it's like a paper emitter with a picture of the person in the center. It emits that signal back into that person's body and reminds them of how the body is supposed to, how that organ is supposed to be balanced. So we can rebalance the body. And so that's one of my favorite things is I work with biosignatures to rebalance people's bodies. And I've seen amazing things. In fact, I think I had a little section of one of my books on biodeometry and I think it's going to be a whole book

because I have so many stories of, you know, people's lives changing with biogeometry. So I talk a lot about my mom's personal story. You know, in 2020, that she got diagnosed with pulmonary fibrosis, which is a lung disease, which is a horrible time to have a lung disease because of COVID. And so she was scared to death. And the doctor said, well, you've got two years to live. Your tissue's hardening and you're going to die within two years. And all we have is medication that will slow the process, but this is your fate and sorry, this is what's going to happen to you. And I refuse to believe it. And I'm like, no, no, no, let's figure this out. So through changing her lifestyle, changing her diet, adding more organ meats, adding supplements where she was deficient,

and then reminding the pathways of the lungs and rehealing her lung tissue, her body started to regenerate and come back. And I remember it was a pretty amazing thing because it was during COVID. So all these doctors were doing Zoom meetings. And so I said, Mom, I want to talk to your doctor. He goes, oh, yeah, he'll schedule a meeting with us. So it was my mom, the doctor, and I was talking about my mom's health. And I said, listen, doctor, I hear that you want to put her on this, you know, experimental drug. He's like, yeah, that's all we've got. I said, well, why don't we start with nutrition first? He goes, well, that's a good idea. He goes, but I'm not a nutritionist. I said, well, I am. He goes, well, I tell you what, why don't you work on your mom

for six months. If she doesn't get better, I'll take over the course of the treatment. And I think he was kind of like, you know, we'll let her be happy. And then she'll go on her path and then she'll be okay with me to end stage treatment. That's a deal. So I worked with my friend who's a naturopathic doctor. We did her blood work and we did a bunch of tests and then we figured out what supplements she needed. And then I did the biogeometry on her. And so six months later, she goes back to the doctor. And the doctor has the nurse doing her test. And the nurse is literally looking at the machine and look at my mom and look at my mom and look at my mom. And my mom's getting really nervous. And she's like, what, what? She was, oh, the doctor will have to tell you. The doctor will have to tell you.

My mom's just freaking out thinking she's dying, like full-blown death. And so thankfully, the doctor came in a few months later and gave her the report because she didn't have to wait. And she called me up while she was waiting. Oh, it's terrible. What do you mean? It's terrible. I mean, she just told me. She couldn't tell me. I said, well, call me when the doctor's done talking to you. Well, the doctor comes in and goes, unbelievable, your lungs got better. He goes, people who have pulmonary fibrosis, they either stay the same or get worse. They don't get better. And he's like, so whatever you're doing, my mom rolls up her sleeve and she shows the biogeometry had written on her arms and stuff. And he was interested because this doctor was actually been a

doctor for over 30 years. And I was so proud of him because he could have easily said, oh, we misdiagnosed you. But instead he goes, no. Yeah, he goes, I know what I saw and I know what you had and I know what you don't have anymore. He goes, so whatever your daughter's doing, she was keep doing it because she's getting results I can't get. And I was like, yes. You know, so he's like, tell your daughter, I said hello. So every six months, she would go back to her doctor. And every six months, he'd go, tell your doctor, I said hello, tell your daughter I said hello, because she gets better and better. And that's not something that would normally happen. So with biogeometry, remind the body how to heal and it heals. And there's a limit to it, of course.

I've worked with people with biodeometry where it didn't work. But, you know, and my analogy is this, if you had this old rusty boat and a hole leak comes into one and you block the hole, then another leak comes in, you block that hole, another leak. And I've had clients where it was just blocking holes. And I said, listen, you know, this is years and years of abuse. And there's only a limit to what biogeometry can do. So it isn't an end all save all, but it is, it does save a lot of people. And it does see, especially young people. I work on children. You can see how resilient the cells are and how they quickly change. I had a client just the other day. And I said, said my favorite thing to do when I work with biogeometry, it says, don't tell me anything about

you. I'll find the problem. And if I miss it, you tell me later. And people just, their jaw dress drops. Like I had a girl recently just tell me she was in the hospital. I didn't even know she was in the hospital. She was like, I need your help. I heard you're great. And it was like, okay, L4, L5, you have a problem here. And she's like, how did you know that? Like, you know, it's like, but that's how you believe it? Because if you told me and I said, oh, yeah, here's a signature to help you. You'd be like, well, I told her out a problem and she tells me this correction. But if I tell you your problem, now you're more apt to believe that, you know, when I tell you this is the solution. But last week, just two days ago, actually, I had a lady who said, my son is in the hospital.

I said, don't tell me what's wrong. Just send me a picture. And I came back to her and said, okay, these are the problems. He's having problems with his, I think it was his kidneys and his testins. And I said, I don't know if this is related or not, but he's got a problem with his eyes too. So I'm giving you the signature for his eyes as well, but this is what's happening. she writes back she's like oh wow she's we don't really know what's going on he's got all this inflammation but he's got bloodshot eyes too wow oh my gosh and so i was like yes you know and so the next day she sends me a picture oh my gosh the kid was so swollen there's cheeks were swollen and she was just puffy and the next day within 24 hours it was back to normal completely gone

she's like so much she goes i was she was in the hospital for three days they couldn't figure it out and then boom it was just overnight. It was just like back to back to her son again. So do you use like clairvoyance or clarestentians to figure that out or does biogeometry train you how to assess somebody from afar or I would say the biogeometry has signatures and Dr. Cream has purposely labeled them as one, two, three, four, five. So there's multiple signatures for different organs, heart one, two, three, four, five. And so because I like to investigate when I first started doing this work, I started asking questions. So if you came to me and you had a problem with your lungs or something, I'd be like, oh, Lexus, what's going on with your lungs? And I would take notes about all the things you know about

your lungs or what's going on with this. And I would make notes. So over the years, I've developed a book of all the signatures and what they mean. So when it happens, I open up my book and say, okay, this is what the signatures I'm getting. And these are what it says it's for. And then people are like, how in the world? Because I now know which signatures are for what part of the body and what is a typical reason for the use. And so like the one with the eyes, it was not a one for near side or far side. It was like something going on with the cells of the eyes. And it was like bloodshot. I'm like, cool, write that on my notes. That's exactly what's happening. So I've intuitively worked that way. So it's a combination of my intuition, but also my ability to use my science background and ask questions with

my clients and say, what's going on with you now that we discovered this? And I make notes. And so I'll know. And like I know which ones are for pain signatures. I know what's happening for crack teeth, chip teeth, you know, gum inflammation. I can tell you all these things with the signature now instead of just saying that's a signature number seven, you know, now it means so much to me. So I've developed a relationship with the signatures because I was willing to ask more questions. I love that. That's beautiful. And I mean, it's raising a lot of questions for me too because I'm only still pretty much at the surface level here. But one thing I'm curious about is, So let's say you use like a signature for the skin because somebody has eczema, but maybe their real issue is in their intestines and their gut and they have like fungal overgrowth.

Does working at the level of the gut, would that be more effective than working at the skin or do you do both or how does that look? Oh, yeah, absolutely. So a lot of times you have to know where the body, how the body works. So you know your detox pathways. You're like, oh, okay, this person's having a problem with detox. Let's look at the liver. Let's look at the lungs. Let's look at the kidneys.

Let's look at the skin. So you have to kind of, so my background in biology has helped me a lot because I know how the things work. So I can go back and say, interesting, let's go back here or maybe pinpoint it all the way to the brain or somewhere else. And so you have to, I'm using all my skills. And so all my information that I know about anatomy. You know, it's like there was a client. One time a mother called me and they had her son was in the hospital. And they said she's like, I don't know what's going on with him. they said it's his heart and now is his lungs and now it's his liver and his stomach and they want to do all these biopsies and I'm really scared and blah blah blah and I'm like hmm so I said let me just

check so I check all the systems and I check the spine the spine was imbalanced I'm like oh so I got out my spinal I have anatomy picture of the entire spine I went with my fine pointer pen and looked at every single segment of the spine and I found a segment I'm like huh so I went back to see where the innervation of the nerve roots were between that spinal segment and found out that spinal segment was working to all the organs of digestion. Wow. Girl, get out of the hospital. It's not your son's organs because I tested all your organs, his organs, and they're fine

and they're healthy. I said, go get yourself a chiropractor. So she's like, well, the doctors have run out of solutions anyway, so I'm going to go and she went to the chiropractor. And sure enough, I said, did your son have a fall recently? She was, yeah, he fell off the, she was, I didn't realize, I didn't think about it, but about a week ago, he fell off the monkey bars. and he had a pinch nerve root that was blocking flow to his digestive system and his organs,

and that was creating the imbalance that we saw. And so she was able to correct the imbalance. So you have to use your, I use all my, I pull out all the stops and use all my knowledge. That's amazing. What a great story. And so when you're doing that, do you use like one of the pendulums to assess an image of the person or what does that look like? Yeah. Yeah. So it's called an I KUP pendulum. Let me see. I have it. here. And this is what it looks like. And so it has different shapes on it. So it works on physical, mental, emotional, vital, and spiritual levels. And so when I find it in balance, it might not be in the physical body. You might be a mental emotional. And so if you're not familiar with like

Louise Hay's work, she talks about how your thoughts create your disease. So when a negative thought persists, it eventually would cause physical problem. So I can find that thought or the negative the thought and it's relating to that organ system. So I will find it that way. So I use this pendulum. I'll use either a live person. I can just by pointing it up, so I do this through remotely through the internet. So most of my work is done remotely. And so just by doing a Zoom call, I can connect to you and get your information. I can use a picture, a photograph of a person. And the photograph doesn't have to be a recent one. It can be a baby picture because it still holds your genetic information. It holds your blueprint. I just ask people, don't send me a filter

photo because everybody's using filters now and that's going to obscure the truth right so i just need a unfiltered photo so if it needs to be 20 years ago that's fine and i just need a picture and then i can find out all the things i work on my animals this way because animals don't speak so i do a lot of work on farm animals i just worked on my pig yesterday he wasn't feeling good and i'm like what's going on i like so i went inside and i found out he had an imbalance in the stomach so i gave him a signature for his stomach and this morning he's fine so i'm like oh don't worry rudy's just got a stomach egg. He must have ate too much bird food because he sneaks into the chicken coop and eats too much. So I figured these things out. I figured out when my goats were going to have their

babies, her babies, because I was looking at signatures for the female region. And I was looking at it. I'm like, okay, she's got problems in her uterus right now. So I gave her some uterus support, obviously. She was about to have three babies. And so I just took, I'm like, well, I'll know when she's having her babies because she's going to need vaginal support. So you can actually go into time. so I can say 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock. I do this for people who are going to have surgery too, because right now you might be fine, but tomorrow you're like, and you have surgery at 12 o'clock, I'll go into tomorrow's time zone and go, Alexis, picture, 12 o'clock, 1 o'clock, 2 o'clock, what signatures are now needed while she's under surgery, right? So with the goat,

I just went in and said, okay, what's happening at this time? And so I remember I was like, 10 o'clock at night and I'm like, if she hadn't had her baby, it was 9 o'clock. And I'm like, okay, 10 o'clock, no, 11 o'clock, no, I was pointed to the back. vagina signature. And 12 o'clock at night, it said, yes, correction. I'm like, she's going to have her babies around midnight. 1202 and 1203, the babies came out. So I knew because it told me, you know, and so I was like, oh, I can go back to bed. I'll just put the monitor on. And sure enough, there was. So I can help animals. I can help children. I can help those that can't speak. So if you have a loved one who's, you know, invalid or in a coma, I can tell you what's

happening or what needs to be supported. I just recently figured out something about a a client that they couldn't speak. And I was like, hey, did you check here? And they're like, no. And then I would go check because this is a, this is a challenge. And sure enough, it was. So you can find out stuff about if your, your loved one is comfortable because I can find imbalances like, oh, no, they're in pain or no, their stomach's hurting or, gosh,

there's, there's gas and bloating. And so it's something they may not be able to communicate. And that's valuable. That's great. I'll share a quick anecdote about an experience that me and my partner had with biogeometry. When we got the, we got like the BG 16 pendulum, the one with like the has like the little kind of arrow tape at the bottom. Yep. Maybe, yep, you can show people. That's what it looks like. And we got it and we wanted to like do some testing. We're both scientists. We're like, let's see how this

works. And so just for people who don't know, like when it swings front and back, that would be like a yes or like a positive correct. And then like side to side is like a no or a negative. You can use it that way. That's not the exact. I don't. Well, we didn't take the course. So I'm I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. So the correct way is to get a spin. But if you put your intention to it, that's why it worked for you.

So remember, if you say I'm communicating with my pendulum and I want to see this response, then you'll see those responses. Just like a regular radionic pendulum. I use those to test people's bodies and chakras. And so when I'm in that field, I can say, okay, a clockwork spin, even though the chakras are spinning in multi-dimensions, I'll say, when I see a clockwork spin, I know that chakras balance. When I see a counterclockwise, I know it's out of balance.

And if I see it going up and down, that means there's some stress in that area, but it's not completely blocked. And so I'll find, so I have a communication with it. So if you communicate and you say, this is what I'm looking for. That's why you got results. Well, you're actually reminding me that I was thinking of another story when I was using a basic pendulum. That one, we were looking clockwise and counterclockwise.

And we were like put it over like my palm and his palm and it was clockwise. And then we would like quick put the garbage can underneath it. And it was like counterclockwise. and then put her hand underneath and it was clockwise and it was like wow this really works it's powerful so you can use them to um the bg 16 is designed to help you identify where bg3 energy is so we call it bg3 those are those three energies that come together those three colors and so when they're this spins that's a detecting a healing environment so you can use it to point at your plants and rotate your plants until they're in bg3 energy so your plants will grow better.

they'll be more resistant to disease. If they're a flower flowering plant, you have more flowers. If they're a fruit plant or vegetable plant, they'll have more fruits and vegetables because you're putting them in the best position of highest vibration. And so they have more healing energy, which means they have more ability to combat stress and disease. And so I've worked my entire property and I've used biogeometry. You can use things you'll learn about in the foundation course. And if the people, your listeners are wanting to take biogeometry, it's biogeometry.com. And you can use a code check, I think it's check 75 to get $75 off the course. There's a foundation training that can be done online, which is amazing. And they'll teach you all

this. And you can use things like colored stakes and you can put colors. So colors hold vibrational energy. And if there's a lack of a color in an area that can create illness or disease to the plants that live in that area. So you can supplement by coloring stakes. Like I use wooden stakes, I paint them red or paint them blue. I paint them the primary colors. And I find areas of my property that need that color and it enhances the area. You'll find that you identify grid lines and fault lines on your property. And that's where, you know, there's chaotic energy. So typically if there's a fault line, you'll see a plant or tree grow away from it.

So trees are all growing crooked. And if you look in a straight line, all those trees on that line will be growing crooked or diagonally. So you'll be able to identify where it's happening. And there was one down by my pond area. and there was a grid line going through it, and the trees, there was a hedge, beautiful hedge, just this long hedge that went on for about 30 feet, and there was maybe 40 feet. And there's this hole in one area, and that's where the fault line was going, so the plant was growing away from it. So there's this beautiful hedge in this hole. I'm like, oh, man,

so I just put a colored stake that was the color missing right in that hole on the ground, staked into the ground, and within about three to six months, it cleared up. So this hole that's been there forever is now gone, I have a beautiful hedge. So you can use crows. corrections to fix and harmonize your property, which is amazing. You know, I love that because a lot of my research relates to not only sunlight, but like specific wavelengths of light in the sun. And from my research and understanding of like modern lifestyles, we're, us humans, like if we're living indoors a lot, we're highly deficient in like red and purple light essentially, like the red, infrared and also like the ultraviolet light just because of how windows filter light. So do you have

any thoughts on red and purple as colors? Like I know red corresponds to like root chakra purple is like crown chakra, but are there anything else that gets stirred up in you when I say that? Yeah. So no, you know, when we look at colors of fruits and vegetables, and you might say, well, like a tomato is red. You say, why is that tomato red? The reason the color is red is because it has all the nutrients. It has an excess of the nutrients for the red color. And that's what that tomato is giving to you. When you see a banana, it has excess yellow. So it's the yellow colors giving to you. So when we start studying those colors, you say, oh, there's a vitamin and mineral profile that attach to this vibrational energy. And so now you'll say, oh,

there's more potassium in a banana. Oh, there's more lycopene in a tomato. And you'll find out there's this combination of minerals that are associated to that vibrational frequency. And so that's what you're also seeing as a deficiency of those nutrients that you might need. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I want to make sure that I ask you about, as it relates to the biosignatures, when you have those on your body, do they have to be visible? or can they be under clothing and do they have to be on specific body parts? Okay, so no. They can be on any body part because your body's a whole.

So you can be working on your face and rewriting them on your ankle. Okay. But they have to be drawn in a certain shape. So the book I was telling you about, I have it on my desk because I use it all the time. This is the biogeometry biosignatures book. And in here, when you buy this book, you can buy it on Amazon. You will see there'll be arrows pointing to the direction where you're supposed to draw. And the reason why it typically in the body, energy goes from top down or left to right.

Okay, that's how energy flows. So you'll see that most of the ones that are long will go from top down. And you'll see some that are width-wise will go from left to right. If you draw them in the wrong direction, they don't work. It has to be drawn in the correct direction. And it has to be drawn without you starting and stopping. So if I'm looking at the signature, stop, start, stop, start. that's not how energy flows because you're starting and stopping the line.

So you have to be able to draw in one continuous flow. Some of them will have multiple things like I know like this one, lungs. So you'll see that there's, you have to draw one, two, three in that order because that's the way the energy goes through in that order. So if you draw incorrectly, it doesn't work. So you have to study the signature and as, you know, it's a practice. So you can, it takes time. but if it's drawn correctly and drawn with smooth lines, then that energy will flow.

It doesn't have to be exposed to outside, like it can be under your clothes. It will work better if it's exposed outside. Like it's on your arm, it'll work better. But long as you're not wearing, like if you're wearing sweatpants that have elastic waist and elastic legs, now you're blocking the energy because there's no air going through. So if you're wearing pants that are not binding on the cuff, then that energy is actually flowing through. It's like when I make these emitters, I have these paper emitters that I've done for clients.

And this is an example of one where I have a picture of a girl and her signatures. It's laying on my desk right here on the top on the shelf. It's being exposed to air. This person isn't living in California where I live. She actually lives on the East Coast. And so this one will work on her because it's a bilocator. Anywhere on the planet where that person is, it's sending the frequencies to them. But if I put this inside a drawer and close the drawer, now it seals it.

and it's no longer working on her. If I flip it over, it's no longer working on her. So it has to be exposed to air. So if you're drying on your skin, on your leg, and you're wearing shorts, it's going to be gray. So long as there's airflow into it, you'll work. But if you're putting them on somewhere and you're wearing tight clothes, like an unbreathable clothes, like maybe if you put on your breast, you don't have to put it on your breast.

But if you did, and then you wore a tight bra and it's polyester and synthetic, your chances are if it's working perfectly is not going to be that great because it needs to integrate with the environment. it'll still work because it's going into your skin, but I'm saying you'll find it more powerful if it's exposed to the light, and that will help it work. That makes sense. And the same with like the biosignatures pendant and or the L90 pendant.

Should that be worn overclothes, not under? So you'll see that I'm wearing mine here. So I always wear mine. And a lot of people wear these up high. Ideally, you'll want to wear it low by your solar plexes because the solar plexes is at the center of your body. So it's right here on my third chakra. So if I wear it up here, it's working.

but not as effectively as it's working here. So get a longer chain, wear it lower, and it's always outside of my clothes. Every once in a while I'm doing something in the garters on my throat in here. It's still working on me. It's just not as effective inside my clothes and it is outside my clothes.

Got it. And we're going to put it on your body, the biosignatures, should you use a specific type of marker? Does that matter what color it is? It doesn't matter what the material is? Well, if you want the best color, the best color is, green. That's a biogeometry color. Green is the most healing color. But I use these pens. They're called

BIC tattoo, uh, tattoo, body mark tattoo pens. And you buy them on Amazon. I, I, yes, I have a little bit of stock in Amazon, not that much. I should get me. I'm like, Amazon, Amazon. Um, anyway, I just buy them there, but they're called big tattoo markers. And these last for about a week or two. Obviously, if you go in the pool or in the bathtub and you soak your body for a while, it will wear off faster. But these can typically last for up to a week, especially in an area that you're not scrubbing. If you put on your arm, you scrub it off, it'll be gone by the next day. But I use these because they can last for a lot, a lot longer. As they weaken and they diminish, then it's going to diminish on your body, too. So you can just draw it in every day if you wanted to or remind the signature on your body,

and they'll continue to work. Is it the case that like the signatures that somebody gets may change over time? Like, first you may need a certain set and then maybe in a couple weeks you need like new ones. Oh, yeah, absolutely. So as your body heals, the signature. will change. And so what I do when people come back, a follow-up, four weeks, six weeks, eight weeks later, I'll say, okay, let's do another one and I'll have them turn over the emitter that we used before. And that way we're just working from scratch again. And so then we'll see what comes up. And sometimes it'll be the same signatures. We're like, oh, ha, you still need those. These are different. These are the same. And so it's fun to see which ones are needed.

A lot of people say, can I tattoo them on my body? I'm like, let's wait to see which ones you need long term because these might be temporary. You don't need a tattoo on your body. So after two, three years, you'd find one that you might need, then maybe you want to tattoo that. But it'd have to be with an artist that's really skilled because if they're starting and stopping, you know, it's not going to work. So they might have to do it jaggedly and then go back with the pen and reline it so that it's a complete motion because otherwise it's not going to work. Oh, actually, that's a really good point. So if you don't feel confident at first, you can kind of do it start and stop and then you can go back and trace over it and it will work.

So another secret, what I did when I first started learning how to do these is, like I'll send people their pictures or their signatures or you can take a picture of the book with your phone, okay, the signature. And now it's on your screen, right? You shrink it down to a size that's small. You take a piece of scotch tape and you put it over your screen and then you take just a ballpoint pen and trace it right on your screen and then you take the tape off and you stick the tape on your arm. Oh, that makes sense. That's what I did when I first learned because I was always screwing up and you don't want to use those markers. You're like, oh, got to do it again. I got to do it in. You got signatures for one, you know, because you kept in screwing it up.

And it's the shape, not the size that matters. So the relative size that can be smaller. It can be smaller or larger. So if it was, if it was bigger was better, we'd have giant pendulums around her neck. But this, this pendulum has, you know, you can see probably, you know, there's some on this side and the other side. So there's maybe 50 signatures there. So no, small is fine. So if you can draw them smaller, long as their precision. Signatures are, you know, they're actually, they're, they're compassionate, meaning they're not, if you do it in the general shape, if the circle is not perfect, it's fine. It's the fluid of energy and the motion in the right direction. So if it's three circles, you want to make sure it's

three circles. But if it's, if you draw four by accident, you might have a different energy, right? But if you go in the opposite direction, it's definitely not going to work. But if you're in the same flow of energy, you'll find that they're, you know, they're pretty accommodating that they'll still work. And you're like, okay, it doesn't have to be perfect. That reminds me a lot. I took like a Reiki one and two training like a couple months ago. And the symbols just very much reminded me of like the biosignatures in the way that there's a lot of like swirling themes and there's like a directionality to things. I thought that was super interesting. I'm guessing they're probably drawing on some like common understructure like Ibrahim kind of visualized these from a similar

perspective that maybe some of these Reiki masters back in the day were as well. Yeah, absolutely. And I've seen a trend too with certain people that they'll have more loops or more spirals. or more zigzags, and that's the energy frequency that's missing. So it's showing up in all their field. So different organs are affected. It's like, oh, that zigzag one, oh, that spiral one. And you'll see a theme for that person. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. This has been so informative. I'm sure we could probably go for another couple hours, but I want to be mindful of your time. Maybe you can come back on, especially when your books come close to like coming out. Maybe we can do another podcast on like deep diving onto those because I think it's going to be so powerful and a great resource for

people. But is there anything else that you want to share before we wrap things up? Yeah, no. So I would love to come back and talk about my book. And I like I'd love to talk about these things. So yes, we could probably spend hours and hours just going through it and diving deeper and telling more stories. But no, if someone wants to look me up, they can go to my email, Angie's World at me.com. That's A-N-G-I-E-S-W-R-D at Emmy, like Mary, M-E, not N-E, dot com. And they're welcome to to send out if they have questions about the work I do or want to work with me. My website's Angie's World as well, Angie'sworld.com, so they can check that out. I'm still up and running trying to fix that.

I had that website since the beginning of time when I started as my personal trainer and nutrition background. And now it's diving more into a spiritual aspect. So I need to do some more work on it. But that is me and they can check out some of the things I have done in the past. And that's how they can contact me. Great. And are there, is there like a list of your different services on

or do you want to like mention them briefly what they could expect when they're working with you, like whether it's sole retrieval or other things that you do? Yeah, I do all sorts of things from coaching. So from just general wellness, nutrition coaching. We talked about me being a personal trainer. I don't do personal training anymore, but I do create physical workouts for people. So people come to me and I do a physical assessment and I do length tension measurements of their muscles and see which ones are too tight that need to be stretched and too long that need to be strengthened.

and I create specific defined programs for them to do in the gym. So I take them to our gym. I have a gym on site in my property and I show them how to do the exercises and they do it on their own. So I no longer do that as a weekly basis, counting reps and things. But I do design highly specific exercise programs for people specifically, you know, weight loss, but it can also be injuries, injury prevention. So anything that's happening physically in the body to correct those imbalances.

I do all my shamanic work. I do soul retrievals, past life regressions. energy healing, chakra balancing. So I do a lot of, you know, sky's the limit. I even talk to deceased relatives. So if there's a connection to someone who's died and you want to connect to them, I'll find out messages for you. Great. And also the biogeometry work, I assume, as well. Bio geometry is one of my favorite things to do. Yes, I do that as well. All of it is fun. I love my work because it's so vast. And it's like every person that comes to me is unique. And I use all the tools in my toolbox, but it depends on what tool is necessary for that person.

So it's never like, oh, everybody gets the same protocol. They don't. It's like, what does this person need? And so biogeometry is one of my favorite things to do. I can do that remotely as well. So anywhere in the world, I can just need a photograph of the person, and I can tell you all about what's going on in them. Amazing.

Oh, my gosh, you're just a wealth of knowledge and skills. And I'm so excited to be able to share this with my community. And I'm going to list in the show notes all the places everybody can find you and access your work. So they don't have to worry about like rewinding the episode and like figuring out what you said, I'll list your website and everything there so the people can find you. And I just want to thank you so much for coming on. This was really delightful. I've had such a blast. Thank you, Alexis. And then also that code I gave you for biogeometry. Yes.

Check my last name, not C-H-E-C-K, but C-H-E-K, 75. 75. Okay, got it. Yeah, I'll put that in the notes as well. All right. Thank you so much. Talking to you again. It's been a pleasure. Me too. Thank you. Uh-huh. Bye-bye. Bye.