Undoctrinate Yourself - #30 - David Herrera

Episode Date: March 12, 2025

David Herrera is a decentralized performance specialist and bitcoiner. In this episode, we unpack the differences between centralized and decentralized approaches to finance and health, and provide introductory information about bitcoin to individuals looking to dip their toes into this world. Find David on Instagram @thesolarathlete @davidherrera1119www.instagram.com/thesolarathletewww.instagram.com/davidherrera1119Book a consultation with him ⁠here⁠: https://strongishappy.thrivecart.com/coaching--servicesFollow Dr. Alexis on instagram ⁠⁠⁠@dralexisjazmyn⁠⁠⁠Follow the podcast on instagram ⁠⁠⁠@undoctrinateyourselfpod⁠⁠www.instagram.com/dralexisjazmynwww.instagram.con/undoctrinateyourselfpod

Hello, friends. Welcome back to Undoctrinate Yourself. I don't usually record intros, but I felt compelled to record an intro for this podcast for a couple of reasons. In this episode, I interviewed David Herrera, who's at the Solar Athlete on Instagram. And he works a lot in the performance space as it relates to quantum biology and mitochondrial medicine. And when I came into this conversation, we hadn't really chatted before. So I was very curious just to get to know him and his approaches. And I thought we were going to end up talking about performance, but the conversation that we ended up having was actually far more important in my mind. And it's actually, I think, is going to be one of the most important episodes that I've published so far. Of course, Jax are right up there as well. But this one is really special. We dove into Bitcoin and decentralized health as it relates to decentralized wealth and the importance of decentralization in finance when it comes. to creating health and creating a life that really feels worth living. And so I hope you guys enjoy this episode at the beginning. Again, I kind of introduced it as I thought we're going to

talk about performance, not realizing that our winding conversation will lead us down the road of Bitcoin and decentralized finance. And I think the conversation went exactly where it needed to go. And I hope you enjoy it. Hello, everyone. And welcome back to Undoctrinate Yourself. Today I have a very special guest. This is David Herrera. And he's going to be telling us about, I think, performance as it relates to the sun story and quantum biology, which I'm really stoked about because I've recently been more so focused on actually the performance aspect myself. I've been working with a cohort of about a dozen athletes that we're going to be basically doing this fall, putting them through mitochondrial optimization protocols and measure their performance gains

during that period of time of like three or four months. So I'm excited to hear your take on this topic and what you've been incorporating in your life. Awesome. Thank you. That's very interesting. Yeah, I didn't know that. That's great. It's really cool.

So yeah, I mean, so my kind of journey and all of this started at a very personal level just for my like my own performance type benefits of being a power lifter and just somebody who trained very regularly, but at a high level. So I have set some world records in powerlifting. and there's a lot of performance, especially in powerlifting because it's not a tested sport. It's not an Olympic sport. There's a lot of performance aspects that go along with like PD use, performance enhancing drugs and things of that nature. And so that's what led me down the path of just knowing more about biology and how things work and how things interact.

Because it's one thing to just take a drug and just get performance benefits. It's another thing to know what exactly am I affecting at the biological level, right? And that actually is the key to good performance enhancing, whether you're doing it naturally, whether you're doing it drugs. If you don't actually know the mechanisms that you're dealing with, you can quickly run into issues, especially with drugs actually, because they all have unintended consequences to some degree. And so that's when I started following Jack Cruz. So I was already like six, seven years ago. Yeah, somewhere in there. And that was more from the side of, okay, so I'm taking some of these things.

And there are also low hanging fruit, you know, because even people in this realm of where I come from, whether it's bodybuilding or powerlifting or, you know, performance sports, there's always the, you got to also eat right to gain the right benefits. You also have to rest well and all of that type of stuff. But when you really kind of put that all into like one basket, it really is about optimizing how your body interprets when it should rest and when it should be. active, right? Like at the end of the day, that's what it all comes down to. And that's when I started looking into a lot more of what Jack was talking about with circadian biology and quantum biology at the level of the mitochondria, which is what's dictating all of these actions, whether it's going to be, you know, you're active or you're sleeping, et cetera. And that led me to just implementing some really, really raw basic stuff, which he, you know, has been preaching for a long time,

which is, hey, you get outside, you get some morning daylight every single day, no matter what, you dissipate inflammation by grounding and those types of things. So just little stuff, right? I never really told anybody a lot about it until I started dealing with clients myself, right? And then at that point in time, that's when I'm like, well, you know, because a lot of people are like, well, I can't sleep or this, right? I'm like, well, why don't you just try some blue light blocking glasses and reduce your EMF blue light exposure at night? see if that helps, right?

And right away, within a week, most people will see a benefit. Especially with the blue light blocking glass, some people see it almost immediate, right? You have the glasses on me, you're like, man, I'm falling asleep. I'm like, yeah, that's the point. And so that then just led me to go full force into a lot more of this, as far as like implementing it, even to the point now where I'm building a new house and I'm implementing a lot of these strategies into my house. like I'm putting solar tubes in there with corks glass.

I'm putting skylights in the house with corks glass so that so that the inside now becomes the outside and vice versa. I went ahead and even made my whole foundation, a cement foundation, and put extra grounding rods in it to make sure that the cement itself is essentially as grounded as the ground outside. Wow. So things of that nature of it just kind of led me to lean into it full force if you want call it that or you know i'm all in that's amazing so did you feel benefits almost immediately and that's

why you really built momentum in this direction or what what difference yeah yeah so so number one when i was so there's a little bit of a story there but uh when i was doing uh all my power lifting leading up to the the best meat that i've ever had back in 2020 um i was implementing the grounding and getting outside regularly and and getting as much sunlight as i could barring that i had a nine to five job right So I worked in the oil field and I had to be, you know, I had to have all my personal protective equipment on. So long sleeves, all of that type of stuff. But whenever I was home, I was always in my shorts. I was always very, very, you know, having as much skin exposed as possible. And I did see benefits. I saw benefits that seemed to make me genetically gifted in terms of

recovery, right? Like some of the workloads that I would put myself through, obviously I was using some PEDs and things of that nature. But the, and I have a mentor in that realm that, his name is Roger Chavez, that is very well known in PED augmentation and stuff like that. And we would have discussions and we would talk about some of the dosages that I would use and stuff like that. He's like, you know, you either are a hyper responder to these drugs or something about your physiology makes you get more out of the drugs than normal.

He's like, you're using about a third of what most people would be used. to get the benefits that you're getting, right? So I didn't really think about it too much other than things were going really well. And then when I moved to full-time coaching, I obviously didn't go to my 9-to-5 job anymore. And I figured it would just lead to more and more progress. The problem was I had a cell phone tower built next to my house in that time, right? So about eight months, maybe closer to a year before I quit my 9-to-5 job, there was a cell phone tower built next to my house.

And it was one of those things where I, me and my wife kind of looked at each other and kind of knew something is going to need to happen. We just didn't know what and we didn't really know what to expect, right? Because, you know, that was back in 2019, right? So it's, you know, that's five years ago now. And because I was going to my 95 job, I didn't actually experience much of anything because I wasn't physically really there that much. But then I quit my job and then I'm all of a sudden at the cell phone tower all the time. And the first thing that I started to notice was tendon and ligament problems because that's my sport, right? Everything around power lifting is as much load as possible as that your body can handle.

And I started to experience tendon and ligament problems clearly under recovery. I'm like, this really doesn't make sense, especially with the drugs that I'm taking. And then I kind of ignored it by just taking some time off from training and it would make me feel better. and then I would resume training and about less than six weeks into training a training regimen, I start to feel the symptoms again. And to the point where even my lymph nodes got inflamed. To the point where I flared up an ABV stage, right?

And so they thought I might have some kind of lymphoma cancer and stuff like that. So I just canned the training for a little bit. And at that point in time, I did a consultation with Jack Cruz. And basically he's like, no, no, no, no, dude. you're kind of beating around the bush. It is the cell phone tower. You are being inundated by the cell phone tower. It's like, you're going to have to sell your house.

So obviously that was a hard thing to do. But we got a building biologist to test our house and everything. And sure enough, the micro watts in my house was 80,000 to 100,000 micro watts per meter squared all the time. All the time. Wow. So immediately we listed our house. It took about four months to sell, and we ended up selling it two springs ago. So April of 2022.

And, no, is that? No, April of 2023. Sorry, April of 2020. And immediately we started the remediation process. And that's when I really started to notice the benefits of sunlight and grounding and stuff like that. And cold really while I was living at the cell phone tower, right? because while I was living there, I did very little training just because I didn't want to accurate things. I didn't want to get injured. But I would do a lot of cold exposure. I had,

I was luckily enough that I had a basement that had a cold storage room that had all four walls, was concrete. So inside of that, there wasn't any EMFs. I could close it because I bought a steel door for it. So I put a steel door in it. And then when I would go in there and enclose myself in it, there was zero EMF in there. But it was 15 degrees, right? It's, the winter. So I would go in there and lay, you know, naked on the concrete and do my breath work in there. And that would actually make it feel better to the point where I could handle my client load and do my normal work for several hours at a time. Like I could come out of there very clear-headed and stuff like that. So I started to notice the benefits of grounding and

cold exposure even while at the cell phone tower just by implementing that strategy of my morning routine was essentially go in that room and get as cold as possible for about an hour and then come out, eat my breakfast, and then do as much work as I could until, you know, brain fog would set in and things of that nature that I'm sure a lot of people deal with with. Wow. You have technology. Wow. And then after we sold our house, the first thing we did was started traveling a lot to sunny

places. So we spent two months in El Salvador that summer. And that was the biggest remediation effect that we did. And so we sold her house in late April and all of July and all of August we spent in El Salvador. And from that point forward, because my wife had symptoms that we didn't really associate with that. One of them was acid reflux, like permanent acid reflux. Like to the point where she was getting, she got a scope, a colonoscopy, you're trying to figure out what was going on. And the doctors are like, oh, your esophageal sphincter is open.

It's just staying open. We don't really, there's not a fix for that. So here's some, you know, Pepsi or whatever, Prilosec, you know. And it got to the point where she was taking that for a whole year every day and sometimes having to double dose it just because it wouldn't close. But as we know now, right, that's due to what, it's not a real term, but what I call demelionation internally, right? Because those types of muscle, smooth muscles need a lot of melanin around them to constantly

have an electrical charge. And so three weeks after being in El Salvador, her assyriarch, flux went away, 100% away. She's never had to take a medication again since then. And then for me, the benefits that I've seen is my recovery is now back to normal, to what I expect, to my previous levels. And with basically just my TRT dose, right? Like that, like, I'm not taking enhancement beyond just what a normal doctor would prescribe

you for TRT replacement just for my decade of powerlifting, which is something that I would probably happen. That really has highlighted that this is probably the most important thing. There's no amount of drugs that will get you out of being interacted with by EMFs or lacking solar exposure or melanin internally. There just isn't. That whole situation really highlighted that to me. It's crazy that they can just build cell towers by your house without any sort of, you know, validation process or like yeah there really isn't there there isn't any what I would call safety measurements being done that there's the obvious of building something there right you

will get a notification hey there's this being built uh you can come to the town meeting or the city town hall meeting to where they're going to pass that but and you know objective you want but there isn't any uh what i would call quality quality control going on. There is zero of that in the United States because there isn't any laws that require them to do that because all they require is that the person that the property owner that they're building the cell phone tower on agreeing to them. Right. And that's exactly what happened. The property literally was in my backyard. I could throw a rock and hit the cell phone tower. Wow. It was less than 100 yards away from my house. The property that was on was a state-owned property. Right. So the state

just agreed to let them build it there and that's all the permission they really need. Yeah, I feel like we're in denial societally about the effects of non-native EMF cell towers, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, everything like that. And part of that's because the research quality is pretty poor, which I think is in relationship to our, let's say, the government at least, not wanting to know the answer to these questions. Like, it just seems crazy. Like, from my perspective as a scientist that, like, who is designing these studies?

Who is doing them? And, like, why aren't we doing this? more. And I was just talking to Scott Zimmerman yesterday. I had I'm on the podcast and we were chatting about how in technology, we are always like having to backtrack after the tech is already rolled out, then we're like, well, maybe it's not so good for this versus doing the research up front to show that it's safe. It's pretty wild. It is. Yeah. When you start talking about the whole 5G and Wi-Fi, two people, right, just normal people, they tend to immediately place you there.

So over the last, I would say, three years, I've just kind of accepted that role of that's where I'm going to be in the group of friends that I have or whatever, right? So at this point, I don't hesitate in talking about it, no matter what people say. But it does kind of feel that way from noise. people as like, hey, David, you're kind of sounding a little bit crazy. Do I really need to turn off my Wi-Fi at night to get good sleep benefits? But the great thing about this is if you just do it, you're not, it doesn't cost you anything. But if there are benefits to be had, you will feel

them and you will fulfill them. You know, you will get those benefits. So I don't ever really hesitate to tell anybody about it because if they just happen to do it for, I don't know, three or four nights in a row, they're the ones that message me later that are like, oh, that clearly made a difference. Somehow it made a difference. I don't really know how, but it did. And that's all that really is needed about just getting out the information, right? It's one thing to say that 5G is bad for you. It's another thing to tell people how to mitigate it, which is actually very low-hanging fruit for most, right? I'm not saying that everybody will be able to mitigate it just by turning off their Wi-Fi at night. It really depends on your actual

living situation. But, and that's actually kind of the more difficult part of like teaching people about this is it does really depend on exactly where you live. It does. Yeah. And sometimes the answers aren't easy. Like sometimes it does require you to move, which is rough. I mean, I think for most people, though, that maybe isn't the case, which is a good thing. There's a lot that you can do to optimize your home environment no matter where you are. But if, you know, you're running into mitochondrial issues, you're still symptomatic even after doing everything, then sometimes you have to really think about making some big changes in your life, whether it's quitting the job or moving to a different house. Yeah, I mean, that's literally what I had to do, right?

Like that I had to sell my house and the environment, the financial environment that we're moving into when I sold my house was that of, hey, if I don't buy a house right away, I'm not going to be able to buy a house of the same quality, right, because of inflation and all that type of stuff. But luckily enough, even before Jack Cruz, I was already into Bitcoin for a long time. I was going to ask you about that. Because of PEDs, literally. So I got into Bitcoin because of PEDs because that was the only way you could buy them when I started 10 years ago.

So, and I never really owned it. I just used it as a means of exchange until about 2018, 2017. Right. And so I already kind of knew that that was going to be how I saved my money. money. So it was a hard thing to kind of do, you know, list their house and sell our house, especially when my wife starts running numbers. And she's like, we either got to buy a house right away. And that's going to be hard to find another good quality house with zero EMFs in the current environment that we live in, right? The town that we live in and stuff like that.

So really the decision was more of do we want to keep living in the town that we live in? Because, you know, our kid, you know, I have kids that are 12, 10, and 7, right? It's not like we've got to taking them away. But luckily enough, we also homeschooled because of the COVID thing. So it made it much easier to move, you know, 20 minutes away into a town. Like currently, the town that I live in only has 200 people total. And the, there is no cell phone towers. Like the nearest cell phone towers is 10 miles away. So that's, this is a place where the horizon for the next 5 to 10 years is something that that is very positive in terms of electromagnetic field pollution and stuff like that. So this came down to how do we build a house?

in the inflationary state that we're going to be facing. And we ended up turning all of our money into, all of our house money into into Bitcoin at that time back in 20, 23. Wow. That's, that was good foresight too. And I think, I mean, things are only going to go up based on, you know, RFK juniors and Trump speeches at Bitcoin, very exciting times coming within the decentralized currency space.

So I think, how do you feel about that? Yeah. I do. it's one of those things where because of the ETFs I feel like it's upside is infinite

but its volatility is also infinite right? Because now you have people with lots of lots of liquidity that can move the price right so or keep the price at a state so it's going to require real Bitcoiners

or people that get into the Bitcoin space to become real Bitcoiners, which is basically you own it and you don't mess around with like keeping it on exchanges and getting liquidated and things of that nature. That will be what ends up happening to most people that get into Bitcoin because they feel that they can outtrade the people with lots of illiquidity. We're talking about the vanguards, the Black Rocks, etc. they're just going to have so much liquidity that when they want the price to go down, the price will go down.

But that's also an opportunity, right? I don't see it as a, as a, I would I say, I don't see it as a negative. I see it as it's a cautionary thing of when you should buy, right? Like, or when you should get out, right? Like it's going to require a little bit more forethought on how cycles are timed and stuff like that. That's my personal opinion on that. You're going to see much crazier swings in price, especially as the price goes higher and higher.

You're going to see the price reach 300,000, 500,000. But you will also see it in that same year that it might reach 300,000. It might go all the way down to 100,000. Right. Like that's where people are really going to, like people that aren't true Bitcoiners are not going to survive that type of environment. And you describe what an ETF is for people who are listening that don't know. Yeah, so an ETF is basically a trading instrument. For example, let's just hypothetically say that I'm BlackRock, right?

Just I have this much Bitcoin, right? And you're one of my customers. I can, for a certain fee and a certain amount of money, I can allocate a certain amount of my Bitcoin to your portfolio, right? And as more customers come, I'm then required. to buy more Bitcoin, right? BlackRock or me as a person or a bank, right? I have to physically own that asset in order to offer it as a product that you can invest in, right?

Now, those are, that's what's called spot ETFs. Now, there's future ETFs. Those are fake, right? Those are not, the company or whoever's offering a future ETF is not required to own any Bitcoin. All they have to do is require, they're only required to have the capital in some form, mostly dollars, that equals that amount of Bitcoin. Those are future ETFs. The spot Bitcoin ETFs required to actually own the Bitcoin, right?

That's why the price will go up much, much more impactfully because they physically have to go out and buy that Bitcoin. But at the same time, they can sell that Bitcoin for their customers because, again, they are handling you as the customer, right, if you went to BlackRock and bought a certain amount of shares of the Bitcoin ETF that they offer. They're also managing that trading for you. So what if they go short with your stuff? You're going to make money.

The customer is going to make money, right? And BlackRock's going to sell that Bitcoin ETF. And the price will go down, but you're going to make money. You don't care as the customer, right? That's kind of the situation that's been invited. Potential upside is enormous. But that also opens up the Bitcoin price to higher amounts of downside. Again, not going to zero.

that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is when BlackRock wants more Bitcoin, they can easily sell 50% of their allocation, drop the price to whatever is more profitable for them, and then buy it right back up, right? Whereas you as, you know, average Joe, that might liquidate you if you happen to leave it on an exchange or you think that you're going to trade it and multiply your Bitcoin. That would probably liquidate. That's actually what they're trying to do, right? They have, you know, trading algorithms and trading AI where they know where people have bought. They know where people have their stops. They know all this stuff.

So they're like, okay, when enough people have their liquidation level at this price, that means that if we liquidate them, we get all their Bitcoin. We can immediately buy that back up, right? And because Bitcoin is non-prolifrelatable, meaning they can't be made more of, they have to come up with strategies like that to get more Bitcoin. Right. So again, being a true Bitcoiner, you're kind of, you're not going to leave your, Bitcoin on an exchange, number one, if you are a true Bitcoiner. So that Bitcoin is not at risk

for that type of activity anymore. And so that's number one. But the people have to understand in terms of what the ETFs kind of represent. And so you recommend that, well, I don't know if you recommend, but what you do is keep your Bitcoin in an external wallet, I presume. Yep, yep. Keep it on your wallet, your keys, your coins. And once it's there, I only, you know, again, I don't live in El Salvador yet. I am hoping to live in a place where I don't have to exchange my Bitcoin for anything. But when I do need to change it, right, like I'm building a house, and I turned my house profit into Bitcoin a year ago. So I have to liquidate some of that. I don't do it on exchanges. I don't do it on any exchanges. I just find other Bitcoiners

and exchange it privately. It's a one-on-one exchange at that point. It's a cash exchange, essentially a digital cash exchange, right? And so I get dollars, they get Bitcoin. We both move on our on our way. I do what I need to do with my money and they do what they want to do with their Bitcoin at that point. So that's the type of that. So it almost forces people in the Bitcoin space to become good network people with other Bitcoiners and other people of the same mindset, which I like. Yeah, I was just going to ask you, is there like a platform that I think Clubhouse is a popular one for Bitcoin. But yeah, yeah, yeah, Clubhouse is a good one. And then just literally physically meeting other Bitcoiners, right?

Like that's just as simple as that, right? Like physically meeting other Bitcoiners is how I have found the people that will help me liquidate some of my Bitcoin when I want to liquidate some of it. They're also the people that, hey, if they wanted to sell some of their Bitcoin, they would probably be able to contact me if I wanted to buy some of it privately. Right. Now, how do I get my Bitcoin? I just do it through Cash app, right? Like I run businesses on Venmo, PayPal, and cash app. And so when I have spare money, you know, instead of putting in a savings account,

I literally just buy the Bitcoin and send it to a private wallet, right? I don't really, now, the private wallets that you want to pick, right? Again, this might be a little bit more technical than most people, especially if you're just hearing about this or don't know much about it. The wallets that I pick allow me to individually look at my UTXOs. So do you know what that is? I don't personally know what that is. We use Electrum wallet.

I don't know if that applies there. I'm not 100% sure about Electrum wallet. It might not. But just as a broad, you know, quick level kind of overview, think of a Bitcoin wallet, just like a normal wallet. But when you add Bitcoin to it, it's not a balance like you would see on a bank account, right? Your dollars don't just keep adding up and then they all kind of congeal into one thing. when you, like say I sent you $100 with a Bitcoin, that's a $100 bill that's now in your wallet.

When someone sends you a $50 worth of Bitcoin, that's a $50 bill that's in your wallet. And they stay as individual bills, right? And so when you go to, say, pay for something that cost you $20 and you pull out the $100 bill that I sent you, the $100 of Bitcoin that I sent you, it's one clump. And that person that you paid can see that you had $100 because you pulled out $100. bill. They have to give you change, right? That's how that's what a, it's called an unspent transaction, right? So when I send you some money, that's an unspent transaction. You have $100 or the Bitcoin that's unspent. When you go to use it at a future date, that bill, you'll have to break, or if it literally happens to be, you know, let's just hypothetically say the thing you bought is $90,

then the person, whoever, the merchant or whoever you sent that money to, to pay for something, only has to give you $10 of Bitcoin back. So they'll only see that your account, Right. So what I'm saying is when you transact with people, the transactions are transparent, but the only person that knows that it's you is the person you paid, right? Just like if I paid you in cash in person, you're the only person that knows what happened there. But say, I had a thousand dollar bill. Well, now you know that I have a thousand dollar bill. You see what I'm saying? So the wallets that I use allow me to select which bills, which UTXOs, to pay people with. So if I'm going to a restaurant and they're only charging me $20, I'm going to pay with a small UTXO, not a $100,000

UTXO because now that restaurant can see that I have $100,000 in my wallet. Does that make sense? That makes perfect sense, actually. And so what wallet do you use or what are some wallets that are examples of ones that would allow you to do that? Sparrow wallet, a desktop wallet. And again, I don't live in a country where I need it on my phone, right? So I use a desktop wallet. Sparrow wallet is a good one. Another good one is Wasabi. They all allow you to look at your individual UTXOs and choose which ones to spend when you want to spend them or send them, right? Even if you're not spending them, maybe you're just sending them to another wallet, right? It allows you to grab the right bills to send to another wallet, right? So then you can manage. I have a Wasabi wallet that has

my really large UTXOs in it, my really large bills, and I have another wallet with a bunch of little bills in it, right? So that may be that one I can transfer to a phone app or whatever when I want to use it for, you know, it just allows you to have more privacy of exactly what people are going to see. Does that make sense? That makes perfect sense. And it sounds like this option or these options would be good if you plan on like having a lot of flux in and out of the wallet. Like you're trying to use it and liquefy it and then maybe put some back. For most people, this is more high level because they're not really going to be using it that much, right? Right. Now, for example. Or maybe they're only going to be using it kind of like I use it, right?

Hey, I'm only going to cash it out every now and then. It's usually going to be in large amounts. Then it really doesn't matter at that point, right? Like, it's like, I'm just going to use it anyway and I'm going to transact with people in private anyway. So it's not that big of a deal. And then, and then let's put it this way, depending on what happens governmentally, right, with the government in the United States, there may be sometimes where things like Mutiny wallet, right, where you're using federations, right?

That's a new concept that's in Bitcoin. that's really kind of awesome, where you put your Bitcoin into a federation, think of it like a pharmacist market group, right? Where, hey, this county or this town or this connection of people all use Bitcoin that they want to use it privately. And so what they do is they just, for example, I'll put in, I don't know, $20,000 of Bitcoin into this group, right? And so that means that now that when I put in the $20,000 with the Bitcoin, they hold my Bitcoin and they give me back e-cash, right? And so, So now e-cash can be used within that group completely privately because there's no tracking of that

that. And nobody can see any transactions within that group. But the group is a group that you belong to. It might be your county. It might be your town. Maybe your private farmers market, right? And so now you can make transactions for food and products and gas and everything without ever setting off any transactional history ever. Like there's no blockchain within that group, right? And the only thing that the blockchain will see is that you added $20,000 of Bitcoin to this. Federation. And then at a later date, you pull out 20,000 or more or less. It doesn't really matter. They won't really know who it's going to, especially if you use Lightning Network. So those are other strategies that are coming in the future that are already implementable. All people are already using them to make it even more. At that point, it's completely private. At that point,

any transaction you do within a federation is 100% private because you're doing it with eCash equivalent to the Bitcoin you put in there. Are you familiar with Monero at all? Yeah. Yeah. Is that? that similar concept with like anonymity, like basically just eCash? So Monero just takes it to a whole other level. Like Minero just literally makes no transaction track. Right. Like again, at that point, if that's what you're worried about, yes.

Like if I was worried about making sure that my transaction has no blockchain traceability, I would use Monaro. Right. Now the downside to that is Monero has a founder and a company and so on. And so there is always that possibility that they get shut down or something happens, right? Where, and again, I don't know Manero enough to know if that's a possibility. But in my mind, because there is a founder, because there is a CEO and et cetera, that is a possibility, right? Just like government corruption happens when there is a government.

If there is a government, there can be government corruption when there is government officials. Totally makes sense. So if somebody wants to learn about the federations. for example, where is the place that you would hear about like that happening? BTC sessions. Okay. Where is that? So that's, he's a YouTube.

He's a YouTube out of Canada. He has a YouTube channel. That's actually where I get most of my Bitcoin, like the intricacies of the Bitcoin wallets networks, all the cool things that can happen with it. Like, because that's a thing, right? Like people just think Bitcoin is a, this digital coin thing and you put it on a wallet. And that's about where it kind of ends, right?

And then you start realizing that it's a technology that has a whole lot of other other capabilities. And if you are into that sort of stuff, that's who I would recommend. Starting with somebody like BTC sessions. He's on Twitter. He's on YouTube. His YouTube channel is excellent. He has lots and lots of tutorials on all of this information that I just talked about, the UTXOs and explaining it correctly, all of that type of stuff. All the different wallets, hundreds of wallets, all of these federations, all these new type of stuff that are coming out to essentially, because that's the thing, right?

like inside of a federation with e-cash, there is zero fees. There are no fees. You're essentially transacting for free within those federations and privately, 100% privately. So it's one of those things where some of the drawbacks to the blockchain, Bitcoin blockchain, as is traditionally used, start to disappear when you start getting into a little bit more technical aspects. And right now they're technical, but eventually they'll become,

second hand, right? Eventually it'll just be integrated into the app and, you know, just, hey, you want to transact with this person? Do you want to do it privately or not privately? Right? It'll be a flip of a switch later on and it'll probably come faster than we think. That makes a lot of sense. This is great actually because I haven't had anybody on the podcast talking about Bitcoin. I didn't know we were going to go here, but it's really good information. And we got into it a couple of years ago, but I'm still very much in like my infancy is actually learning about the technology itself. So I'm really excited to learn about the potential there. DTC sessions is definitely the one of the technology. He, right? He has videos obviously about what is Bitcoin and, you know, why should you invest in it or why, why is it what it is and what makes it different than the others, right? Those are, that's valuable information because that's where most people are going to need to start. But then there's the technical side of what I just explained. And that is incredibly valuable, especially if you make the decision that Bitcoin is for you, right? Like that's, in my opinion, it should be for everybody. But if, you know, that's the thing is you have to personally side, right? Like they're even in El Salvador, right? A lot of people don't tell you this. In El Salvador, it's still, even though it is a currency there, right? It is legal tender there. I would say 50% of El Salvadorans or less actually use Bitcoin to its full potential or even know how to use it because it's still an opt-in system. Right. You still have to be the one that takes the plunge. Because at that point, right, the whole premise of Bitcoin is it's your money. You are now,

responsible for it 100%, right? And a lot of people just may not be willing to take that leap. Yeah, I mean, it sounds like that's a reflection also of our health care system too and people just not wanting to take responsibility for their health, their lives, et cetera, and prefer to just offset that to some authority figures. But I do feel like that we're kind of coming to the end of that as an era, especially I think COVID really accelerated people's like awakening to the systemic issues that we're facing and how we really. really do need to start to be more mindful and conscious about the decisions we're making for ourselves and our health and our families and our communities. So I think Bitcoin is a really,

it's like a gateway drug into, I mean, you can come at health through Bitcoin, I think. You can come at Bitcoin through health. Exactly. It can really go either way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And luckily enough for me, it was kind of a mixture of both, right? Like Bitcoin came first as far as like using and doing, right? And then, And not shortly after that is when I started reading about, you know, Jack Cruz's work. But that was before he even was talking about Bitcoin. So I didn't link them together until later, right? As far as the health care system or health in general, especially as first world countries,

that is incredibly linked to your monetary stability, right? Like, let's put it this way. you will if you don't have monetary stability financial stability you will be subject to whatever happened in COVID essentially right like people literally lost their jobs if they didn't take the vaccine right like that would not have been an issue if you would have been saving in Bitcoin for example right you would have been like well you know what I'm not going to take the vaccine I don't need this right now I'm going to take some time off and take care of myself and my family and figure out what the heck's going on with all this stuff and process this

information at my own pace instead of being forced because I have the financial stability for the last three or four years of saving in Bitcoin versus dollars, right? Yep. Right? Like that simple thought experiment immediately highlights the importance of your health and how the health care system is designed to ensure that you are, I don't want to say permanently sick, but permanently dependent on the health care system, which then requires you to be permanently Fiat farming for someone else, right?

Because that's how most people get their health care, right? If you had to get your health care privately like that, like I had to when I moved to my own private coaching job, that's a whole different ballgame, right? You're paying a lot more money at that point than if you get your health care through your employer, right? And if you get your health or through your employer, now you're subject to the employer's rules and regulations, right? So that was really, really highlighted,

hopefully to everyone that some people are not going to say that during COVID. I like that the 2020 through 2022 was the mandates, all of it, right? Like even even as late as 2022, where hospitals were literally firing nurses for not getting vaccinated, right? And then not even a year later, that is no longer true. Right. And so what do you like? It's one of those things where they got you when they could because of financial instability.

Yeah, absolutely. So for people who are kind of new to this still, we kind of already touched on it a little bit, but just to really hit it on the nose, can you compare and contrast Fiat versus Bitcoin or decentralized currency versus Fiat currency? Yeah. So, so as far as. Bitcoin goes, right, it is, you're not able to proliferate it, right? So the, it's unique thing is that there will never be more than 21 million Bitcoin, right? It's also unique that it's 100% digital,

meaning it's infinitely divisible, right? So it can absorb an infinite amount of monetary value, right? So the price of Bitcoin is essentially infinite, because as the more people interact with it, the more monetary value it will absorb, right? Um, There are other things that make it even more decentralized, and those are, you know, the miners being not one place, right? It's all over globally. And another crucial thing, which BTC Sessions also talks about, is notes. Anybody can run a note.

That is a verification of the blockchain independently of the miners, right? So you can run a node, I can run a node. And that means that now I can verify transactions and I can accept or not accept to run an upgrade, for example, right? So that's where soft forks and things of that nature come in. Like if somebody did where does, you know, and people ask about this and I'm kind of glad that you ask this is, what if somebody decides to change Bitcoin? I'm like, well, if you run a node, you don't have to change anything, right? You can just, you get to decide which version of a blockchain you run, right?

And so if somebody changes it, that actually become, it's already happened. That's how Bitcoin or Bitcoin Cash came to be, right? is somebody thought that Bitcoin should work this way, which is how Bitcoin Cash works. And other people thought, no, it should stay the same. And that's how Bitcoin still is Bitcoin, right? It's because the people running the nodes that accepted the version of Bitcoin Cash, they upgraded their nodes to run Bitcoin Cash. And that became its own network, right? And people that didn't want that to happen just voted by not changing. Right. So think of it this way. If you get a Microsoft update, which I freaking hate.

Yes, the worst. You can choose not to update it and your computer will run completely fine. It will continue to run exactly like it should. Nobody is requiring you to update anything ever, right? And that is also what makes Bitcoin blockchain also valuable. You are 100% in control of what blockchain you, the blockchain that you interact with and the future of how it moves on for you personally. And so it sounds like relative to Fiat, which is just, I mean, we're all living through probably one of the worst inflationary periods. ever that can't happen in Bitcoin because there's a fixed number.

Yeah. Yeah. So now, exactly. So now let's compare it to Fiat. Fiat is inflationary by design. It has to. The reason is because if you don't inflate it, people will save it. And so if you save it, the price of things goes down, which is actually what should be happening.

Right. So let me just put it this way, right? Technology and infrastructure is always improving, right? So let's put it this way. Does it cost more to farm potatoes now or 20 years ago? Right. I mean, well, it's less. It's less because technology is improved. Right, right, right.

You can now farm hundreds of acres versus before you needed hundreds of tractors to run hundreds of acres, right? monetarily speaking, it costs less to produce the same product. But why is the product going up? Because inflation is ensuring that the product prices go up so that you continue to spend your money. And if you continue to spend your money, that means that you always have to be on the treadmill, the treadmill of, hey, now I have to work for 45 years just to get by, right? I can't just because let's put it this right.

This also goes back to mitochondrial biology. when you are young and you're full of water, you can endure 24-hour shifts three or four days a week. I've done it, right? Like, I've literally done it, right? You can make an incredible amount of money in your 20s if you just employ that tactic. You could be retired before you're 25 if you know what you're doing and work extremely hard. but your money is being inflated away, so that won't happen. But if your money was deflationary or at least not able to be inflated, now it can happen.

You see what I'm saying? It's by design. It's a system that's by design. The fiat system is a governmental implementation to ensure that its citizens always are a workforce. That's the way I view the Fiat system versus a decentralized monetary system. a decentralized monetary system essentially allows you the freedom to do exactly what I described and leverage time appropriately, right? That's something that I think Jack Cruz would completely agree with.

Hey, if you are, I don't know, a doctor or a lawyer or somebody who's going to make a lot of money, he's like, go all in, destroy yourself in the first, your second decade of life, right, like your 20s all the way through. He's like, then recover, right? Like literally you can, because if anything that we know about circadian biology and mitochondrial biologies, is it is very fixable if you do the right things with enough consistency and intensity. Even in your later years, 40s and 50s. Well, imagine if you could do that at 27, right, at 27 or 37, right, in that decade of your life

because you worked your ass off from 19 until 27 and, you know, happened to just, like, for example, a trade, right, this is what I did, like, which is what I'm saying, like my life story kind of highlights some of this stuff at 19 years old I was making $10,000 a month by working one job which is in the trades right so working a auto body right and then at night I would work another job for eight hours and make another five thousand so at 19 years old I was making $15,000 a month literally not too many people make that kind of money even as a professional right like even at uh you you'd have to be a lawyer to make even more money than that lawyers doctors etc you'd have to have a degree at that point but this is right out of high school in a trade

making that kind of money um but the thing is i only had it in dollars and just like dollars are meant to do they're meant to be spent right because of inflationary uh things and things of that nature uh you tend to and at that age you also are a little bit more compulsive so you know i had cars i had toys and all of those types of things. They ate up all that money, right? If I would have, and I still saved money, right? I still had a savings account, but five years later when I get married, that savings account doesn't buy me a house.

You know, there was still 40,000, it got me a down payment, right? So it gives you the illusion of progression. But if that would have been Bitcoin, five, six years later, that would have been four to five times more money than those 40, that would have been a house, right? So it immediately starts to put time into perspective of what are you trading for time and how are you going to capitalize on that later, right? So that that's probably the best non-technical way that I like to describe a Fiat system versus a decentralized monetary system. That's that's very insightful.

And I can also totally relate. Like in my early 20s, I was working a while I was doing an internship at a chemical company on nights from like 10 p.m. to 6.000. to 6 a.m. and then I would go to the gym and then I would go to classes at college until like 3 p.m. And then I would maybe sleep like four hours or something and do it all over again. Yeah. You probably just sustain that for several weeks. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Like because of mitochondria and because of how everything is kind of time dilated, your time infinitely rewards you when you're young, infinitely. You just got to find the right vehicle for that reward to then be capitalized later,

which used to be money, right? That's the point of money, right? Fiat money and decentralized money, they're both money. They just work differently, right? Fiat money is meant to keep you working and decentralized money is meant to keep you sovereign, meaning you have a 100% decision making of exactly what you want to do and when you want to do it. Because you can go all out for five years. And then if you decide, you can be like, hey, I'm not going to do anything for a few years.

And that's fine, right? It gives you more ebb and flow of your energy and how you're being rewarded and how you can use your energy later on. Yeah. And when you start learning about this, I feel like it's impossible to not see the parallels like you were just drawing between health and finance. and health and wealth and how they're just very inextricably linked. And as long as you're a slave to somebody else's dream, let's say, you're going to be on that treadmill both financially. And you're going to also be burning yourself out health-wise.

And I think a lot of people are doing that. I think it's really sad, honestly, especially the more that I, you know, I've worked with a lot of clients, a lot of them are working jobs that they're not necessarily passionate about. And a lot of this just comes down to very fundamental, like, you know, their health is perhaps a sign like issues in their health is perhaps a sign of these deeper issues going on in their life that they're not addressing and that aren't always easy to address. But the thing that I have noticed is once you start incorporating, you know, more sunlight and seeing the sunrise and grounding and just getting back into nature, I feel like it makes you think more clearly so you can actually

be honest with yourself and see what you're doing that's not serving you. Yeah, that's, I'm glad that you brought that up. That's actually probably the one thing that I noticed right away, even before the cell phone power thing, was that my foresight into, you know, most people would call it intuition, right, training intuition, right? Going back to, you know, right before I did my 2020 power lifting meet in total, the biggest total that I totaled, et cetera. And that that was a world record at that time. That whole year leading up to that, because I started the training for that meet. I did that meet in April of 2020. So right when the whole shutdown thing started happening, right? So I started the training for that in May of 2019. So a year before, right? And I started in the summertime,

intentionally implementing all these strategies of, hey, I'm going to get, because the sun gets up really early here at like 5 a.m. It's the sun is up. And I would go to work from 7 a.m. and get off at 3 p.m. So I would, and I would take my lunch break in the middle because I worked out in the oil field. And so I could do whatever I want. So I would suntan in the middle of the day, get up early in the day and do my, my morning daylight, uh, stop and eat my breakfast and then go to work and then I'd get home at 3 p.m. I'd work out. And then the rest of the afternoon, I just did work outside, just work outside all summer long. And that prepped me for just what you said was I had a much more clearer sense of exactly how my

body was running that whole year. So I knew exactly how hard to push when to cut it back. Decision making was a lot more like even going back to my nine to five job, there was a a lot of projects going on at that time. And I was just much more clear-headed in project management at that time where decisions were clear and precise. And it only ended up being and manifesting in a very, very spectacular performance in the spring of 2020. Right. And then fast forward to living next to a cell phone tower and disrupting my circadian mechanisms to the point where now I had brain fog. I had to implement a lot of aggressive cold exposure. just to function for four or five hours.

And that whole thing really highlighted, like I mentioned at the beginning, that your circadian mechanism really controls just about everything, even your decision making, and even how you interpret certain situations. Absolutely. That's the case. I mean, I've experienced it personally. I only came into the light story space in April of 2023. That's when I found Jack Cruz through the Rick Rubin podcast, with Huberman and it was very like eye opening and just rapid flux period of my life. So prior

to that, I did my PhD at Princeton and I was in the midst of a postdoc when I found that podcast. And first of all, I felt very almost scandalized because I couldn't believe that I hadn't heard about this story sooner. I was like, ah, I feel like I wasted so much time. But at the same time, I appreciate the more centralized perspective too because now like basically I had the scientific understanding to incorporate everything Jack was saying in that podcast and all of his other resources, his blogs, et cetera, into a framework that really clicked for me almost immediately. And so I, you know, I personally saw major differences in just the way that I felt my recovery. I started moving all my workouts outside.

We like canceled our gym membership. And my recovery and my ability to perform at a high level is so much better when I'm working out outside. Like it's literally a night and day difference. I don't get sore. I feel like I can lift for more reps, like just. getting a better pump in. And of course, that's like red and infrared light, also the UVA light and the nitrogxide story. And there's like all of these, also the UVB part and like the endorphins.

So I feel like everything in the natural environment as well as the grounding, getting free electrons from the earth is culminating to optimizing human performance. And yet so many people are just completely aloof to it. Yeah, that's what actually led me and one of my friends, Euris. He's Latvian. He lives in the UK. We started a podcast two and a half years ago. yeah two and a half years ago called becoming superhuman right because of exactly what you are highlighting that uh low hanging fruit most people would consider this low hanging going outside working out outside uh because essentially it's free like you can do it in your side yard right um and that by itself improves so many aspects of mental and physical performance

that it's it's it's hard to quantify how much right and it's hard to quantify how much right and it's say, oh, you will, you know, you will perform better. I can equivocally say that, but it's hard to be able to really put that and wrap it all up into one thing because it's affecting so many systems, right? So many systems. And so we've just dedicated literally the last two and a half years to highlighting all the different types of systems that they get interacted. And then at the end of the, you know, when we wrap up a podcast, you know, how do you do all this? Well, you get outside, you ground yourself and you interact with a lot of sunlight as much as possible locally, right? And that may mean that you have to interact with a lot more cold than you might be wanting to,

depending on where you live, right? That also dictates, you know, because we all come, you know, me and my friend come from the sports performance type world, right? So, you know, a lot of people focus on macros and food in that world. And so, and that also highlights, hey, you know, because of these mechanisms and how they all interact, you actually kind of have to vary the food that you eat seasonally in order to get the correct benefits that you're thinking that you're going to be getting from just eating a monolithic way year round, right? And I don't know how many countless people have told me, hey, in the winter, I switch from eating all my carbs to eating more fats and eating less fruit and my stomach issues went away. Now I can digest things properly, right? And

it's one of those things where all of this goes back to the same story of the more outside time you spend, the more you interact with the environment and correctly, I would I say, signal the environment that you live in on your skin and your eyes and also signal the environment correctly on your gut, right? Because if you take in the surfaces, all your surfaces that interact with the environment are your skin, your eyes, and your gut. If you, that's all of you that's interacting with the environment. So the skin in the eyes, that's the easy stuff. Get outside often. Get, get grounded, mitigate as much non-native EMF as possible,

both visible and non-visible. And then, eat seasonally so that your gut, which is the other part of your body that interacts with the environment, also correctly gets the same signal, right? Like, in that one paragraph, I've described what every human should strive to do wherever they live. The intricacies or the details are, where do you live,

and what kind of environment do you need to mitigate? Right. And that's where me and you might come in, right? Like as far as like, hey, you know, you live here. This is kind of your EMF exposure range. You might need to get a Faraday cage for your, for your bed, bedroom, right? You might need to implement a grounding mat or you might need to, you know, there's all kinds of ways to skin the cat, if you will, depending on your living situation and exactly where you live. And that's where it gets confusing, right? That's where people get confused because they don't understand that perspective. Yeah, I often get questions that highlight the lack of understanding that people can have because it's like, I feel like there's a lot of needless confusion

in some ways that like people, it's like a reflection of the centralized healthcare system where they just want to be told what to do. And when I'm working with people, I'm trying to empower them to be able to answer their own questions and how to think well. So, you know, at some level, in the beginning at least, a lot of that is like giving my perspective on the situation, what I would do if I was in their shoes, but ultimately providing the information that will allow them to make good decisions for themselves and their families based on these principles in quantum biology and light biology. And that's like the ultimate, I would say, like health blow up is when you can actually analyze the situation for yourself and now you don't

need anybody else to tell you what to do because you're empowered with that. And also as it relates to seasonal eating, super important from many perspectives. And I always kind of roll my eyes when there's all this rhetoric about, like, you know, cattle causing global warming, et cetera, et cetera. And there's no mention of the global food supply chain contributing to like greenhouse gases and pollution. And if we were able to, you know, each of ourselves, like just focus on eating more locally, seasonally, maybe shopping at farmers markets, that will make a much bigger difference on like, let's say pollution and the health of our planet versus culling cows in Ireland and here because like they're methane producers or whatever. It just doesn't

or even transporting bananas across the planet. Exactly. That doesn't make any sense to me. Right. Like in the concept of what you described of emissions and pollution and things of that nature, you're 100% right. That's never ever mentioned, right? How am I getting oranges and strawberries and, um, raspberries year round at my local market, you know, Walmart or whatever, it's because it's being transported here. That's way more pollution than any cow is ever going to give off. Just the act that you are supplying that level of food intake for the whole country, not to mention the whole planet, in places where those things don't grow. That means they

had to be transported there. Transportation of those goods costs a lot more pollution than any other type of really thing that we do. I mean, we know that, right? Like people are trying to get people to not fly on airplanes. I'm like, well, how do you think food gets transported across countries, right? Like, exactly. Exactly. That's why you can really see like the cow and animal base eating. I feel like is really this false flag within the climate change narrative. And it's really, it's really about control, I think. It's more so about controlling what people do, controlling your ability to move through your environment and it has nothing to actually do with the health of the planet and something that people can just start easily doing is when they go to the

grocery store before you like you know pick something up that you're going to eat later look at on the label and see where it just came from if it came from you know central america and you live in in massachusetts maybe we should rethink this yeah yeah absolutely absolutely and i mean it's one of those things where people just you know because it's not even like it's this is uh that long ago, right? This is a recent phenomenon, right? Like 50 years ago, you could not go to a grocery store and get bananas that came from Ecuador, right?

Or any of the, like, this is a new phenomenon. If you ask your great grandparents, you know, what they ate in the winter, it would be none of the stuff that you're eating, right? Like, that's just how it is, but people don't really, you know, it's one of those things where, well, almost a little bit into the, like, the entitlement syndrome of, like, well, I work really hard and I have all this money. I should be able to eat whatever the heck I want whenever I want it. Right.

Like I'm like, you can. Nothing's stopping you from doing that. But you won't do it forever. Trust me. There will be a consequence to pay for that type of action. Not because I'm telling you that, you know, that's good or bad. I'm just like, hmm, you just you're not designed that way. Like that's the consequence, right?

Like just like using a tool incorrectly, you can still use the tool incorrectly. That doesn't mean that there won't be a consequence for that. absolutely and I think yeah there's just so many upsides to eating a seasonal approach from your biology from a planetary standpoint and I really think a lot of the striving for comfort and convenience that we see among people today is also largely due to like the low agency low dopamine state from all the blue light toxicity and the tech abuse that's creating this constant like compulsive behavior to eating like hyper palatable highly highly processed foods or drugs, alcohol, like name your addiction and people, the things that people abuse all really comes back to this inability to have like a stable, elevated dopamine level because your sun deficient ultimately. Yeah, yeah, some deficient or, or degrading melanin at an accelerated rate, right? Like both, again, just like Jack Cruz highlights, there's always two sides, right? It's not just about the sunlight. It's also about ultimate darkness, right? The darkness,

And one of those or both of them can be the contributing factor to the potential outcome that you're seeing, right? It can, and for most it is the lack of sunlight. But then there can also be too much demand at night, right? Like that's another phenomenon that you'll see is, hey, you're depleting your dopamine at such a high rate because you are being inundated by electromagnetic fields that you're literally shunting melan into dopamine at such a high rate that you are. going to run out of dopamine you run out of melanin right so it's it's both sides is that and that is the beauty of the you know thinking decentralized is that there's always there's always two sides of the same coin and or there's always a positive and negative that needs to be thought about right not just the sunlight and grounding it's also what happens at night it should be dark that's probably what i

see the most in females. Like men, well, at least from the demographic of the people that I get contacted with, most of the men that I come in contact with already kind of come from the same background as I do. They usually have a physical type of job that kids that outside. That's not usually what they're lacking, maybe in the way that they're implementing some things. Like, you know, sometimes they're like, well, at the wrong time of the day is when they get solar exposure and that they're just not able to do that correctly.

that most females that I get, you know, because of technology and stuff like that, they're just on technology late into the evening all the time. And that is really where, you know, I find having to focus a lot more attention because women, I find that women do a lot more than men, like just in general. Like, I'm not trying to be sexist or anything like that. They just do more, right? They, if they have children, they are definitely doing more than the man. Like, that is just flat out.

right. So they're the one getting up early, getting all the kids ready, getting in the school, preparing lunches, then they're doing their workouts, then they're going to their job, then they're coming home, and then they're keeping up on whatever else house duties, or if they have a, you know, a job that keeps on them online, they're working late into the evening, then they get six hours of sleep or five, and then they repeat it, right? And then I'm like, well, you're already doing some of these things wrong, right? But why are you seeing all these results? Because if you're driving such high demand at night to ruin that circadian cycle, because of where you live.

And they're like, well, I live in Canada. I'm like, that's the problem. I'm like, you live in Canada. And there is no solar exposure to govern that level of energy output for five hours at night every night. Yeah. And I mean, as you mentioned, like, the difference between the sexes with regards to, like, day-to-day activities, I think it's also a reflection of like the nuclear family aspect

that's also not very normal for us as a species. Like, women are just having to take on way too much. It's like, basically they have to take on all the tasks. already doing more evolutionarily, plus also working the job and bringing in money and like sometimes that reflects back to the monetary system, the field is just, right? The reason they're having to do that is because the energy output of the, you know, again, I'm not trying to be sexist, but the energy output of the male in the family is no longer enough to monetarily keep them stable into the future without the female now contributing some of her energy also to the Fiat system because of the inflationary nature of Fiat.

Right. Like ultimately that's what's happening. Yep. Yep. Absolutely. And it's not sustainable. And I think that's also why we see especially a lot of the autoimmune diseases in women. Basically, I feel like there's some level of like self betrayal that goes on in that process and not setting boundaries, not speaking their truth.

And I think that's also just, I don't know, more of like a sociocultural aspect of the way that women interact with other people. But I feel like there's this like non, like a inflexibility to actually speaking up for themselves. And so I think that oftentimes reflects at the level of autoimmune diseases in particular, like the thyroid disease. If you want to get into the more esoteric aspects of the thyroid being associated with the throat chakra and stagnating that chakra, basically creating all this stuck energy in that area, which is where the thyroid is. So I think it's just, it's really interesting. And also, as we've highlighted throughout the conversation, it is something that people can absolutely do something about. It's not like this terminal, you know, you're just stuck.

You have to start building momentum in a positive direction. And then, you know, even if that's just going out and seeing the sunrise for a few minutes in the morning, start to just make some tiny steps in the right direction. And then over time, you can get like these massive returns. Yes, yes. Yeah. And that's, you know, the display of an unlimited. linear effect, right? If you upgrade your food, right, you start getting plenty of DHEA so that now

when you do spend some time outside, you collect more of those electrons. And then maybe, you know, depending on your environment, you also introduce some cold at the same time. That now yields, hey, the 10 or 15 minutes that I do have to be outside in the morning yield more return, right? And you will feel those, right? You'll feel that first in clarity and then mental thought. And you will feel more energized from a mental perspective I find first. And then that might start to manifest. later on, especially if you start cleaning up some other things at night so that you can actually incorrectly let your body interpret how to switch over to the nighttime mode, right? Because the way I like to describe this is your body is capable of literally everything, literally everything. The

problem is it can't do everything at once, right? It has to be optimized or switched over. The way I like to describe it is, think of your body is capable of producing everything it needs, absolutely everything through an assembly-like type manner. The problem is the assembly line has to be switched over to assemble these certain things and switched over to these certain things as certain times of the day. And that's what circadian rhythm is, right? Is the body correctly assessing, hey, at this time of day, if we just do these small switches that require very little energy

because we're getting different energy inputs from the environment at this time of day, we can optimize for these certain outcomes. So your body starts to optimize certain manufacturing capabilities at certain times of the day because it requires less energy to do it that way. Right. And so when you correctly start inducing certain signaling like morning daylight exposure or cold exposure or a combination of all of those, and then UV exposure at certain times of the day,

and then darkness at other times of the day, you are correctly letting the body interpret the right assembly line set up for the correct processing that needs to happen at that time of day. And when you start doing that chronically, that's when you really start making strides. Yeah, and I always thought that I was a night owl throughout high school and college and just I always identified with that chronotype quote unquote. And now the more I learn about this, the more I think that chronotypes are kind of BS. And it's really a man, like an artifact of the modern environment that that is even a thing.

And when I started implementing exposure to sunlight during the day and morning light and blocking blue light at night, I immediately, my sleep schedule shifted. I got sleepy earlier and I woke up earlier. It's just like a natural, it's what your body will naturally shift to. That's actually what I've experienced with just about every female that tells me that. In fact, more than, more than a dozen, more than a dozen females. Well, I really can't sleep at night. I'm like, yeah, you'll be fine. Just do what I ask you to do for, I don't know, a week or two, right? I'm like, give me a month, right? And then next thing you know, they're like, man, I'm waking up at like six o'clock. I'm like, when does the sun come up where you or you're at six o'clock i'm like yeah that's that's how it should work

i'm like everything is working correctly they're like yeah but shouldn't i sleep in more if i didn't go to bed i'm like well no you should wake up when the sun wakes up irrelevant of when you went to bed that may mean that you need to clean that we need to work a little bit harder on your nighttime routine but yeah essentially that's how it works they're like well what happens when it gets you know when when it's winter time i'm like yeah that the reason why winter exists is because that's when you're supposed to get more sleep and more recovery. I'm like, that's the nature of living where you live. I'm like, yes, I get it.

That's not how society is set up. But that's how nature and the place where you've chosen to live is set up. Absolutely. I get that question a lot as well. Like, what do I do in the wintertime if you're like super northern latitude? And yeah, it is what it is. And at some level, you're not really meant to live to north. There's not typically a lot of life in those areas.

Let's say Alaska, for example. It's, you know, kind of barren. And I think Scandinavia may be somewhat of an exception. Like Jack talks about the magnetic flux there and they have all like the thermal pools and everything that they can leverage to get. And obviously the cold as well, which is supplementing. But yes, I mean, if you look at the animal life, you see animals are hibernating during that time of year. They're getting more rest. They're, you know, preparing for that time of year.

And then they're balancing that with spring and summer where, you know, you're much more active and fertile. And like you see like the mating behavior is changing and the color of the pelt changes. And like, that's part of the melanin story and how that relates to fertility and like the leptomelanacortin pathway. And it's like everything is connected. Yeah, it is. And I think the biggest disconnect is that we feel or or as as modern humans that you aren't part of that system. Right. Like that's essentially what modern society has, quote, ingrained into modern humans is that you're not part of that system.

You're a separate system. Right. And we can do whatever we want. I'm like, hmm. that's that's the fallacy right that's that that is the fallacy of thinking in that manner is that you will have problems and the problems are already manifested right like most of these problems are what we consider as uh uh there's there's diseases that they don't have a cause right well there's a name to it i can't i can't even think about that but a lot of these things where you know

more and more diseases they're like we don't really know what causes it i'm like yeah that's that's that's the circadian manipulation effect of you're just dysregulated enough that you're falling apart, essentially. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I mean, if you just consider like proof of work, the proof of work that our societal structure is not working is the rates of chronic disease across all age groups, essentially at this point, even young kids getting type 2 diabetes and autism rates just soaring and all of all of the chronic disease burden that we typically only would see in older adults for the most

part and now is being reflected in children. And so we really need to make changes there. And I was talking about this was Scott yesterday too and how harmful it is, especially now, you know, kids were already indoors for school during the best parts of the day to get like their midday sign. But now on top of that, they're glued to screens like all the schools have the Chromebooks. And they're basically forced to be on screens all day under fluorescent lights behind glass. And it's wreaking havoc on their mental health and their physical health. Yes. Yes. I do see that a lot with children, which is another, you know, we started homeschooling because of the COVID thing.

But we're not going back because of all these other reasons. Right. Like that's just how it is. Like my kids today, right? Like they spent the first four hours outside, right? Playing, right? And now they're, now they're indoors, you know, doing some of their schooling. And they'll probably do some school for two or three hours and then come back outside, right?

It's barely getting close to noon here. Right. So like basically we just happen to set it up that way because we can. Exactly. And that's what freedom looks like, especially when. when you're, you know, thinking in a decentralized way and your finances are decentralized and your medicine and your health care is also decentralized. So I think that's maybe a great place to wrap it up.

Do you want to tell people how they can find you and work with you? Yeah. So I'm mainly active on Instagram. So David Herrera 1119 is my handle for like, you know, what? Again, they've kind of started to melt together, but it used to be where I posted all my power lifting stuff and all of that training stuff, training related. And also some reels and clips of the podcast that I do with yours. And then I also have a second Instagram called The Solar Athlete.

And that one is more about the specifics of mitochondria and light and grounding and all of the mitochondrial health benefits. There are slides with like some of the some technical stuff on there. And then more and more of just practical stuff of, you know, what to do, what to look for, blood work reviews, things of that nature. In both of those, you can just literally click on my bio, and it'll take you to my website where you can actually hire me for a consultation or hire me for coaching, for coaching. And those are the ways that most, and on that website,

there is also an email address that you could email me to. If you message me on Instagram, it's, if you're not somebody that I'm connected to, I probably won't get your message. Like I don't, I've already had my Instagram hacked. I just don't really interact. with people that I'm not really following, right? Like, that's just how it is. So, unfortunately, you won't be able to message me directly on Instagram unless it's somebody

they already know. Fair enough. Yeah, I can totally relate to that. But I think they can definitely, you know, hire you for a consultation and see what you're about if somebody's interested. And I think this was a very, very insightful episode. I'm excited. We finally got to unpack some information about Bitcoin.

I think I get a lot of DMs about Bitcoin and asking about, like, how do I start? And I think this was a really good starting point for that. And then we can check out the YouTube channel that you mentioned to learn more. And I just really want to thank you for your time. This is super fun. And maybe we can do it again and focus more on the biology next time. Awesome. Yeah, no problem.

All right. Sounds good. Thank you. Bye.