Unlonely with Dr. Jody Carrington - Cross My Legs and Give Me a Turtleneck: Season Finale

Episode Date: August 15, 2024

Season finales are for looking back—and gearing up for what's next. As Everyone Comes From Somewhere wraps its inaugural season, Jody reflects on the journey from a COVID-born community project to a platform for the essential conversations we need today. From powerful stories of trauma and mental health to the lighter moments like the infamous West Edmonton wardrobe malfunction, this episode revisits the highlights that shaped the show. Jody also shares her behind-the-mic learnings, offering a glimpse into the art of podcasting and what it takes to foster genuine dialogue. And with a teaser for an exciting rebrand, she sets the stage for a second season that promises to dive even deeper into connecting humanity through storytelling. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

At the beginning of every episode, there will always be time for an acknowledgement. You know, the more we do this, people ask, why do you have to do the acknowledgement in every episode? I got to tell you, I've never been more grateful for being able to raise my babies on a land where so much sacrifice was made. And I think what's really critical in this process is that the ask is just that we don't forget. So the importance of saying these words at the beginning of every episode will always be of utmost importance to me and this team. So everything that we created here today for you happened on Treaty 7 land, which is now known as the center part of the province of Alberta. It is home of the Blackfoot Confederacy, which is made known as the center part of the province of Alberta.

It is home of the Blackfoot Confederacy, which is made up of the Siksika, the Kainai, the Pekinie, the Tatina First Nation, the Stony Nakota First Nation, and the Métis Nation Region 3. Our job, our job as humans, is to simply acknowledge each other. That's how we do better, be better, and stay connected to the good. Wow. Welcome back. Welcome in. This is the final episode of season one of Everyone Comes From Somewhere. Listen, I still can't believe that I'm a podcast host. I don't really even, I don't know what that means, even when I say it out loud. And I don't't believe that I'm a podcast host. I don't really even, I don't know what that means. Um, even when I say it out loud and I don't even know that, like what so many people I think have started into this podcast space. And we talked about this for years, right? We, we've run by the time this airs, we'll have had almost 50 episodes in everyone comes from somewhere. And what was so critically important when we started this is, you know, I don't know if I can take you back to the beginning of, um, this work for me, where everything started to shift for Marty and I, for this brand was probably during COVID when every single day it started out like Sunday lives. And I would just come on Facebook and

Instagram and talk about what was ever happening day. And I would try to make it like useful, like some kind of clinical expertise shit that I would, you know, dive into like grief or trauma or all those kinds of things. Right. And it was fun for me every Sunday night I would be like, okay, I put something in a, in a mug and I would just talk about the week. And so it was such a great way to interact with the community. And I was blown away how many people would show up. And then very quickly, this thing called COVID kicked us in the ass and I had so much more opportunity to be at home. And so these lives turned into then a couple of days a week and then every morning for coffee. And we did hundreds of those conversations every

morning for coffee. And I loved it. Our babies were there. I like, it was a fucking disaster. Most days, my eyelashes were flapping off. Uh, the children were coming in and out. My husband, my personal husband, you like, there was a lot of witnessing of marital discord. And there was the moments of really deep conversation about like, how do we navigate isolation? What happens when depression sits in? What happens if you're, you know, feeling, um, isolated from everybody, the increase in, in mental health issues, domestic violence, child maltreatment, all of those things became something that we could dip our toe in every once in a while. And, um, the feedback

was amazing. I mean, there would be thousands of people every morning having coffee. And I got to tell you, I mean, like, as you know, COVID has been over for some time and that's probably the thing that I hear the most in the hugs that I get post a talk anywhere is things like this. Like I miss your morning chats. I, you helped me through COVID. I needed so much of your voice. And I mean, I think Marnie and I, that's probably the favorite thing that we love about it is when we get to actually feel this community that we, um, are so desperate to serve. And when we get to be face to face in those places, we know this, you know, you can't automate relationship. And so hearing that there was some impact in some of

those mornings, um, was just so profound to me. And then we started speaking again and we were on the road and the conversation was that worked so great. What about a podcast? And initially the idea of the podcast for me was like, I don't know, like I don't want anything scheduled. I really loved like every morning just kind of showing up, like whatever the fuck it was,

like, I'm going to tell you what happened this week. And so I was really interested in just like doing a solo podcast where I could like, just talk about shit, like whatever was happening. And then they wanted me to get guests. And I was like, fuck, I don't even know like who, and the process of everyone comes from somewhere was really to create a safe place to have those hard conversations that we started having on our Facebook lives around things like inclusivity, marginalization, white privilege. What does it mean when kids want to use pronouns? And you got to understand the demographic of the community that we built initially was very, very much weighted for

women, those who identify as women, um, middle-aged tend to be, uh, privileged in some capacity. And so it was such an opportunity to have great conversations around the role of women and the expectation of women and the expectation of, um, I think what it means to truly understand privilege. I mean, I think those were some of the times where he had the biggest kickback, um, was, okay, what does that mean? And, you know, are you calling me racist? And most of the time I would be like, yes. And so it's like understanding those biases. It was so fantastic to use that place, not to call people out in any way, because I know that that doesn't effectively, you know, produce change, but how do we call people

into this place of like, okay, let's fucking dance and high kick the shit out of this thing, because we're not here for long. And we have this beautiful opportunity in this disconnected world. And I often say this, you know, there's never been time like now to be able to really think about your purpose because the bar is so fucking low. This is also happening at a time, however, where so many of us are done, burned out, exhausted, questioning our relationships, our marriages, our friendships, adult relationships and friendships. You know, how do we do that? And as the podcast has evolved, you know, I was just looking over the episodes, the almost 50 episodes. And I mean, I'll run you through them a little bit because the trajectory for me has really been honing in on the things that I think are important to talk about, but also the things that it's teaching me.

I mean, as this year has evolved, I'm formulating the next book in my head. I'm like, okay, I've talked about this enough. Emotional regulation, burnout. God damn it. What I'm missing is the underlying need to just break free of this loneliness piece that the desire to feel seen has driven us to. We feel so unseen in this world because of the sudden introduction of social media. I mean, and I say sudden, I mean, 2006, we can see the introduction 2009, the forward facing camera, um, becomes a thing on, uh, Apple phones and the demise in mental health, particularly in our children, but in big people too, is remarkable. Like there's no denying,

I mean, causation, I mean, sorry, when there's a correlation, it doesn't always in, it's not always indicative of causation. There could be a number of factors that suggest that this is why this happened, but I am 150,000 fucking times convinced that like the ability to disconnect from people and still marginally keeping a connection has made it easier for us to not get our needs met. And the hard part about that is, you know, I often say this, you know, we're wired for two things. We're wired neurobiologically for connection. You disconnect from infants, they die. But what's also in our bones is it is very difficult for us to look at people face to face, particularly if I love you,

particularly if I have a deep relationship with you. So we've then at this like sort of calamity of errors came together at a time where, um, we introduced the smartphone, we introduced algorithms that keep us connected to these devices because they're getting very smart. I mean, even the conversations that now I'm thinking about more and more is like Netflix, you know, would say, how do we keep people watching the episode, watching the episode, watching the episode. We want you to watch a full season. That's our, that's our job. Okay. And I get it. That's their job, right? The job of the Facebook Tonians was to like, how do we get people here? Even though they're going to be lured away by like, you know, playing with their friends outside or ice cream trucks or like

frolicking on the volleyball team. What is more attractive? Getting sucked into the gamification of Fortnite, right? It's easier, it's accessible, and then you can take it anywhere. So what makes sense to me is the development of this idea around loneliness and loneliness epidemic makes so much sense to me because the wheels were turning in that direction and then COVID hit. Like, I don't know who orchestrated this shit, but God, you couldn't have done it any better if you really wanted to create a human crisis. Because then for the physical safety of the world, we said, don't interact with people. Stay in your houses, right? How are you going to cope with that? Well, you're going to get shittier with the people around you. You're going to drink more. You're going to eat more. You're going to exercise less because we don't want to, we don't want to go outside because we might catch it.

And we're windexing down our groceries, like fear, no end in sight, this sense of unrest in the body further perpetuated this deep dive into the, this disconnection place. And so when we started, everyone comes from somewhere. I really wanted to understand the idea that because we've been disconnected in so many ways, do you think one of the pathways back to reconnection would be learning about people because people are hard to hate close up. And so how could we as a team orchestrate 49 conversations that would bring us back to some of the things? And so when I look at, you know, some of the episodes, you know, we started, we started this podcast episode one with my story. And I remember it was sort of a shortened version for me. I don't

know why I was nervous when I was taping that first interview. And I was like, not interview, because I spoke to myself, but like that first conversation that I had with myself about my sister and my parents and my brother and like how, you know, where I came from, I thought it was only fair that if I was going to ask these guests to tell me about their story, that the context from which I do my work, um, by which I'm driven to, you know, spend some time, uh, doing this stuff, why I wanted to be a psychologist, why I love being a writer, all of those things that, that, that episode was really important to me. And I think then, you know, right away, one of the first guests we had was Carlene Altez and she, um, the, the title of that episode is

understand the assignment. And I remember thinking, okay, I can't like understand the assignment in this world as a human is to live to your fullest potential, get it, just get it clear. And it was such a lovely way to kick off the podcast because it really like started to solidify for me. Keep in mind, I'm no fucking podcast host. And that really came true as we reflected on the season, because I would often slip into much more therapeutic conversations around what is this like for you? Tell me more about this, really trying to understand that system. And I didn't get my job as an interviewer, um, until much later. And I even would say some of the later episodes, I was really fucking bad at too. Um, but I think it's, it's so interesting. And so, um, the, the, I think the most downloaded

episode, Marty, is this right? The most downloaded episode is the West Edmonton mall wardrobe malfunction. Is that right? Do you know? Is it Laura? God damn it, Laura Seely, you beat me. So I'm going to say, this is not the data, that this episode, my solo episode of me talking about my bathing suit coming off my boob and my bum was the best. Okay. So, um, I talk about cup sheet and I was not sponsored by cup sheet, just so you know, but cup sheet, again, I'm still available for consultation if necessary. Uh, just how difficult it was as a older mom trying to strap yourself into a bathing suit that you thought was going to fit and looked so much better on the

model till you put that bitch on. And so sort of the real time navigation in my own head, which happens, can I just tell you 24 hours a day about how I show up in this world in my body? And, you know, do I love myself enough? Don't I? Why do I feel like I have to justify my choices? What I do? Am I good? Am I bad? Am I what? Did I eat enough? Did I not eat too much? Like, holy fuck. So that first episode, I really wanted to just really highlight, um, you know, authentically, I think that we all struggle in this place and I'm, I'm really funny. And some people don't know that about me, but like, I really think I'm the funniest fucking person I know. And so, um, you need to know this one. I taped that episode. I had an audience. So we were in, um, the sick boys, um, podcast studio. And I like, I have a secret crush

on all three sick boys who produced this podcast and they were all in the room and I was making them laugh when I was telling the story. So when anybody laughs at me, fuck, it's like throwing gasoline on a fire. Like you, I'm going gonna see if I can make you pee like that's the plan every time for me so that's why that where that one went so if you haven't heard that one I um I think that and you need to a belly laugh that's a good one um followed closely by my good friend and police officer Laura Seeley um she dove. So we did a complete one 80 in that next episode talking a lot about, um, sexual trafficking and, um, what that looks like for, you know, online safety for your kids, how predators lie in every place that they're no longer in white vans with ice cream and promises

of puppies. Um, they're in Roblox and what that looks like to sort of be aware of and how unadulterated really the use of online sites are for kids. Cause we just think that they're playing games. So she opened so many eyes. I get so much feedback on that episode. Um, we did a couple of, you know, an episode on, um, you know, parenting in there, uh, therapy. I did a couple of solo ones there. Mallory Brown was amazing. Um, a concept she's had baby, she had twins since we did that episode. And, um, you know, really talking about the documentary series that she did, uh, overseas, just diving into people's cultures, which, you know, for a long time around here,

the biggest goal on my wall has been, I want to be a global expert. I want to be a global thought leader in the area of mental health and trauma and how we reconnect this disconnected world. And I really learned so much from her, right? Like if you want to be a global thought leader, you have to understand what's going on in the globe. And I'm so isolated. I have no, not nearly enough knowledge about political systems, the economy, what's happening globally. I'm very, I feel like invested in what's happening in North America, Canada in particular, but my goodness, what it's like to raise babies in different countries, um, is, uh, what it's like to live, to work, to play, um, is completely foreign to me. And so I just, it just was such a,

like, wow. And so Mallory's, you know, conversation really had that, um, you know, foreign to me. And so I just, it just was such a like, wow. And so Mallory's, you know, conversation really had that, um, you know, huge to me. And although track, um, trick had a head ads, um, episode, um, he's the piece by chocolate guy didn't, um, air. He was, um, uh, first generation refugee, um, and was embraced in Anaganish, Nova Scotia. Um, when he came over after losing everything in Syria and just talked about the building of a business and the having purpose in the work that you do. He was my first interview and it aired a bit later, but my God, I was so nervous during that one. And he, he was just such a gem, you know? So I, I really loved that. Um, Mark Menke blew me fucking away. Um, PTSD and, uh, story and serving, uh, overseas.

And I'd been on his podcast before and I was like, Hmm, I, I don't know how this episode is going to go. Honestly, the feedback we get around that, if you're a first responder, if you're, you know, in this world of trauma in any capacity, that's a, I really, really adored that. We did a couple of other episodes. Jeremy Noble is a Harvard trained professor who's phenomenal, wrote the book on lonely. I love that term. I've given so deep into the concept of his work since that time and really led to sort of the next episode where we talked about trauma. My favorite, one of my favorite humans on the planet is Joe Dabrowski. And I knew he was going to be a part of this podcast in some way. And I, I got to tell you that episode, we've had better conversations in our lives and I just felt so honored to be able to do that

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And with over a million five-star reviews, you're in good hands. Download the Maple app today. See a real doctor on your phone in minutes 24-7. Get Maple. Get well. Sooner. Jade Simmons. Holy moly. Yeah. Like the energy in that woman. We talked a lot about grief, trauma. Like I did some solo episodes there. Sam Demas, this amazing kid what's in your backpack, blew me away as well. I think one of the greatest teachers I've had this year is Rowan Jette Knox. He's a transgendered man and was just in the process of transitioning,

in the final stages of transitioning when we had the conversation. And I had a lot of interesting conversations with people in rural Saskatchewan and Alberta after that one aired. And I loved it. Rowan is such a phenomenal teacher and he's relentless in, in really defending and helping people understand LGBTQ2A plus, um, just how lonely, how isolating, how isolating that can be. And then, of course, my Sarah Landry, my God, the Birch Papaya, that felt like a big one for us because she has such a massive following. It was phenomenal.

And then jumping into the depths of Cadmus de Lorme, Chief Cadmus de Lorme, he was the youngest indigenous chief in Canada and, um, that guy's taught me more about indigeneity, um, the understanding of my privilege than anybody. And I, um, him and Jesse Lipscomb, which of course comes later. Um, but I just, I adore that guy that he would take the time to come. Um, if you want some sobering take on privilege, I mean, particularly with indigenous peoples in this country, stop there. And if I didn't think my heart was ripped up, then Lorne and Lindsay Miller, Lorne's a firefighter. Lindsay's a photographer, um, three-time cancer

survivor. Since we've aired that episode, he's went through another bout. Um, it's been touch and go for this guy. Uh, I'm his biggest fan. I'm his biggest fan. And that episode, I's went through another bout. Um, it's been touch and go for this guy. Uh, I'm his biggest fan. I'm his biggest fan. And that episode, I'm telling you, if you need a little touch of gratitude, drop in there. Mental toughness, Rob Bell. Uh, I've seen him everywhere since, uh, we had that conversation. And unfortunately I talked a lot about Taylor Swift there with him. Uh, but he's smart, smart guy. And, uh, just menopause. It was so interesting.

Cause I, I don't know if you know this, but I had a, a massive wake up call around menopause, perimenopause and, uh, needed a blood transfusion. And, um, my iron was low and all the things because primarily I didn't understand what's happening in my body as a result of menopause. And so these two birds just came on and lit it up and taught me a whole bunch of things like menopause is a day. It's like you're either, you know, you're Perry for forever. And then you're post-menopausal, um, when you've been without a period for 12 years on that day or 12 years, fuck me, 12 months when you're a year period free, um, you're in post-menopause. And I, I just, I remember thinking

how timely that was. And, um, yeah. So, uh, leadership, oh, Tiffany Jana, Dr. Tiffany Jana, um, phenomenal human being in the DEI space. Again, such a great teacher. Uh, Rob Kearney, uh, world's strongest gay, this fella. I mean, if you haven't listened to that episode, I want you to go back because, uh, he and Marty and I and Joey's husband or Rob's husband, Joey, sorry, uh, met in an airport and fell in love. And this guy's a massive CrossFitter. I have a huge, I don't know, love affair with CrossFit. Not that I do it. I just love the people who do it. I love watching the people who do it. I love watching the people who do it. And, uh, he trains the best. He's a Matt Fraser. Like I, anyway,

it was ridiculous to me. And, um, I just loved his insight. And, uh, then you get to see Chattel's story. I see dead people. Uh, Chattel's story is my medium. And since, you know, we met, we, uh, I spent a lot of time with her um at least once a month forecasting what i need to know in the universe and most people that i tell that story to like including my husband and our agent are like what the fuck are you talking about i'm like i know i've never been woohoo in my life but i'll tell you what when you start to trust the universe and sink into you know all the things you might be missing when you were too much in your head, uh, everything opens up. And so Chattel has been like a gift that I can't even tell you. Oh my God, Brett Gardner. Um, that's the next episode. And, uh, 12th time

world champion rodeo announcer, uh, 13, some bitch, sorry, Brett. Uh, and, um, Jesus, there's nobody funnier than this guy, I don't think. And, um, he worked in my practice for a little bit, you know, he's become, uh, a therapist and, uh, I just, I really enjoy my conversation with him. He's so committed to humanity and men's mental health and really understanding in that sports space, how much we don't have, you know, places for men to land. So, uh, that's an, uh, fantastic one. Uh, Jessica Higgins was phenomenal. I talked about modern day relationships, Amberlee Lago, you know, starts to blow things away. We start to solidify, I think some of the understandings. Um, and then I was

introduced to Anthony McLean, who is a Canadian now living in the U S uh, phenomenal speaker, man. If you're looking for a speaker for an event, this guy is your guy. Um, Allie Stone and I met, uh, I'm going to actually do some work with her coming up. Um, she's the inspired leader. She owned, uh, her and her husband owned five original Joes. Her husband has then a massive brain aneurysm or a, an experience of disease kind of that he's completely incapable of then working and, and just how she's navigated her marriage and her work. And she's, she's so brilliant and so young. Um, we had Sam Taylor jump in Evan Birch. Oh gosh. Evan and his ultra marathons. Ridiculous to me. He was also a paramedic, uh, Evan and, um, lots of talking about how PTSD connects with the idea of, you know, training and exercise. And that is an outlet. And I learned a lot from him again, my, my,

one of my favorite humans on the planet again is Jesse Lipscomb. And, uh, I know if you're local in Alberta here, um, you might know Jesse's an actor and a writer and, um, uh, and a fierce advocate for marginalized peoples. And as a black man who is so articulate, uh, he has called me to the mat more times than I can count because of the isms that I just throw out there with my, my misunderstanding of terms. And, um, he's, he's just been the kindest, most gracious teacher. And I really loved our conversation. Um, Amber Romaniak, uh, the power to feel, uh, Alicia Ray, we had to do that one twice because, um, I fucked up the recording the first time she's a physician, uh, in Calgary and just has survived so much with her baby.

And, um, the idea of, um, infertility and infertility treatments and, um, phenomenal being a Brown woman and a doctor and talking about racism. And I really love that. Again, my third favorite human on the planet, not that I'm ranking anybody is Jeremy Allen. And, um, he, he's a funeral director and we have dug into many conversations around grief. And, uh, if you're struggling at all in that place, I send everybody I love to Jeremy Allen. He's buried the people that matter the most to me so far. And, uh, I really love this guy, Todd. I met Todd. Todd's a sex therapist. And like, if you know me, I'm a

big talker about everything, but when it gets down to it, I'm the prudest most. Marty will tell like some kind of offside sexually related jokes. And I'm like, Oh, I can't do and like make fun of me. And like, why don't you come on, Joan? And I can't, I don't even know what's wrong with me or something like I need therapy. Something prudish has happened in my history that makes me very conservative. So it's this like combination of like, let's throw it out there. I talk about my boobs all the time. And then anybody sort of starts to bring that back to me. And I'm like, Oh, give me a turtleneck cross my legs. Like I can't, you know, right. I know. Cross my legs and give me a turtleneck. Like, I think that those two things help. I don't know. But Todd, on the other hand, does not

ever show up with a turtleneck. This guy is the most gorgeous human. And, um, he's in New York, right? New York. And, uh, we met, we, we talked at the same conference. And so I was just kind of blown away with his insights and he just written a new, has written a new book. And, um, we just had a fabulous conversation. I really enjoyed that with him. And then Jeremy Saunders. Oh my God. He's, um, he's one of the, uh, sick boys who produced this podcast and I've fallen in love with Jeremy years ago. Um, he has cystic fibrosis and which, um, when he was born, when he was first diagnosed, um, was a life ending illness. So the anticipation is that he wouldn't live past 30. His parents knew it. Uh, his family knew it. He knew

it. Um, although they never really talked about it for a long time. So we unpack all of that. And we also unpack the fact that a life-saving, uh, medication has been recently introduced into, um, the world and approved by the FDA in Canada. And so he is now on that medication and, um, has a new lease on life. And so just what that means to come back from the brink in so many ways. Um, I just, I, we both really loved that conversation. And then I got very fancy with Sophie Gregor Trudeau, who is the former wife of our current prime minister, Jordan. Um, fuck me. I just called him Jordan. Justin, Justin is his name. Started with a J and I was thinking Gregor and it came with Jordan, but it's really not.

It's Justin Trudeau. We might want to end it that, uh, no, Marty says no. Okay. Anyway. So she blew me away. I got to tell you, I mean, I think I wrote a post about this, but like my father was here at the time and she has to speak to him and she's just so kind and gracious. And I, I, she blew me away. Her brilliance, her, her really humble way of hoping to have an impact on the world. And it was really, regardless of all political ideals, this conversation really was one of the truest testaments to everyone comes from somewhere for me in understanding just public figures,

how much we assume they are a certain way, they act a certain way, they think a certain way. And I just really loved that opportunity to unpack some things with her. Fallon Farinacci. I always get it wrong. Um, listen, if you want an episode that's going to rip your heart out and put it back together, uh, this is Fallon. She, um, we also met, um, when we were speaking at a same event and, um, she's an indigenous woman who, um, survived, you know, bearing witness to the

murder and, um, of both her parents and subsequently then, you know, navigating this world without them along with her two brothers who, um, so sadly, um, she loses one to a suicide. And then, um, just most recently her last surviving brother completed suicide. And so we really talked a lot about survival and, um, just what it means to find light in darkness. And I get a lot of feedback from that one. Uh, Jam Gamble. I've okay. So Jam and I, I was scared of Jam like for a very long time in social media. Cause this woman is like a force. And I was like, I, if I ever talked to jam gamble, I know I'm going to fuck it up because she is, she calls, she says it like it is. And she is not scared to fucking say it. And so I spoke for one time I was speaking for like, what, what, what was it? Wealth wealth, wine, women in wealth. No women in wealth X the wine and, uh, women in wealth. No, women in wealth, X the wine and,

uh, women in wealth gala. And it was a big deal because we wanted to be on that stage for a number of years. There's two events hosted in this province. And I was like, huh, when I get there, I'm going to make it. And, um, cool. So me, uh, I get to do that. And, uh, the founder of, uh, smash and Tess, who I'm very very much admire as an entrepreneur, a very successful businesswoman, uh, her and I are keynoting this and it's all hosted by Joelle Tomlinson, uh, a phenomenal black woman who's just changing the face of the world. And, uh, Ashley said to me, yeah, no, my, my very good friend, Jam Gamble is going to be in the crowd both nights. And I was like, it was like one of those moments of like, fuck, I, how am I going to, what

am I going to, oh my God. And we fell in love. And I just, I was so grateful that she agreed to be on the podcast. You guys, she's such a great teacher. And so, um, that episode is just really the, the energy that woman has is just contagious. Um, and as we're wrapping it up here, then the last couple of ones, Dr. Matani is Shazma. Again, again, really reminded me of Alicia Ray in terms of their story as female physicians and both coming, you know, really beautifully through med school in a way in a time where it was going to

be harder for them than most other people. They pursued it. They impressed the shit out of me. But Shazma in particular has this real desire to educate people as a physician and has started a very big online platform talking to people around, you know, just providing medical advice that's accessible because she said how difficult it is for people to get really great medical advice. And we Google all the wrong places. And so anyways, I'm blown away. Peter joint. If I were to pick my favorite, I might have to pick Peter. I really enjoyed this episode and it, it was, it challenged me so much as an interviewer because, uh, Peter has a severe stutter and we talked even after that, you know, he sent me a message after he was like, that was so bad.

Um, he said, it's not, not so bad in terms of the interview, but it's stuttering. He said, it's just been getting progressively worse lately and they're trying to figure out why. But, um, I, I, I wanted to rescue and save and like, I didn't know the rules around this process. And so we really unpack it on this podcast and I just, I adored it. I had our whole family listened to that on a drive and it was just, it was fodder for such great conversation. Uh, Danae Logan, she is quite the dude. Okay. So I met her at a, a conference as well, where we both spoke, um, written a book called sovereign love. And, um, again, when you want to talk woo, this girl is just peace embodied.

And just being in her presence, her wisdom, I mean, she's been trained by some of the people that I admire the most, like Esther Perel. And it just pours out her veins. It just, she really wanted to make, she made me want to be a better therapist. I really enjoyed that conversation. And speaking of therapists, Jake Ernst comes on next, this kid, he's a psychologist in Toronto. And, um, I got a lot of feedback on his episode actually, because he just, he was not scared to dive deep. And our last episode, uh, Sarah Bain Chang, um, is going to, uh, well, you, when you're listening to this, it's a little already aired. Uh, she is the Dean of fine arts and, um, at York university. And I, this is the one episode I wish

I would have been better prepared at asking questions because this human is brilliant. And so I'm looking forward to having her back again, because, um, I need to do better at that. And then here we are, um, about to wrap up the season. And I got to tell you something, uh, I've learned a lot. I've learned that I don't take direction. Well, I've learned that, uh, I need to be so much more fucking prepared that this idea that I can just wing shit off the end of my desk as a, uh, podcast host is not the name of the game. And so it turns out the team might've told me that a few times. And I was like, get fucked. I can figure this out. Let's just let it roll. No, not, you do not get as much out of people, uh, that way, uh, as a podcast host, very different than as a therapist,

I must say. But I, so I'm learning on that. They even, this people around here, this team, they even got me media training. Can you fucking believe that? So now I got a lady who's coming in. She's going to teach me how to do some media, how to do, be a better interviewer. Anyway, she's really nice. So I'm really looking forward to that, Joanne. Because we have decided we are going to do season two. And I'm going to take everything I learned from this season and we're going to redo some things around here. There's been a big talk about a rebrand and a different focus and a real desire to deliver in a season where if I am going to get the precious commodity of your time,

I'm going to bring you some of the best people I can find. And I want to give you some tangible things that I think truly, you know, not just bring light to the differences of humanity, but really, um, I think understand that if we're going to reconnect humanity, we have to do it a story and a strategy at a time. And so, And so I cannot wait to tell you more about that. They're very clear that I can't divulge the specifics, but stay tuned because we have the lineup of guests. We have, you know, there's going to be some changes, but we have some of the finest humans already on the list.

And we've done already a couple of interviews. And so I'm so excited about it. So if you joined us now, I'm glad you're here. Thank you for being with us during this first year. We tried everything and fumble-fucked our way through it all. I promise you it's going to just get even better. Like this, share this with the people you love. We would love them to be in this

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