Unlonely with Dr. Jody Carrington - The Truth Takes Time: Peter Joynt

Episode Date: July 18, 2024

an MC, producer, and public speaker from Ottawa, Canada. The Joynt has been making music for over two decades. He has worked on projects for organizations like the Ottawa Senators, RogersTV and Ottawa... Tourism. He has also performed for distinguished individuals such as the Governor General of Canada.One intriguing fact about Peter is that he stutters quite noticeably in conversation, yet it disappears when he performs. It’s one of the many interesting characteristics that sets him apart as an artist and public speaker.The Joynt made waves in November 2011 when he released the single Capcity – a love song about Ottawa. The video went viral and landed Peter on the front page of the Ottawa Citizen newspaper. The news story was broadcast nationwide on radio and television, and brought considerable attention to the Joynt’s music.That attention propelled Peter into the community as a public speaker. He now speaks regularly to students at local schools about bullying, self-acceptance, and resiliency. He has spoken at over 200 schools and almost 100 conventions and seminars.In this episode Dr. Jody and Peter chat all about living life with a stutter, making music and how he is changing the world on speaking session at a time.Follow Peter Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:25 Visit Peloton at onepeloton.ca. At the beginning of every episode, there will always be time for an acknowledgement. You know, the more we do this, people ask, why do you have to do the acknowledgement and every episode? I got to tell you, I've never been more grateful for being able to raise my babies on a land where so much sacrifice was made. And I think what's really critical in this process is that the ask is just that we don't forget. So the importance of saying these words at the beginning of every episode will always be of utmost importance to me
Starting point is 00:01:06 and this team. So everything that we created here today for you happened on Treaty 7 land, which is now known as the center part of the province of Alberta. It is home of the Blackfoot Confederacy, which is made up of the Siksika, the Kainai, the Pekinni, the Tatina First Nation, the Stony Nakota First Nation, and the Métis Nation Region 3. Our job, our job as humans, is to simply acknowledge each other. That's how we do better, be better, and stay connected to the good. Oh, welcome back. Welcome in my fellow humans. I'm so glad that I get to have you back with me today. And I got to tell you today, I am super excited. I was introduced to our guest today by a friend who said, when you want to look for a remarkable human, I have one of the most remarkable humans I've ever had the pleasure of meeting. Do you think you would like to have him on your podcast? And when
Starting point is 00:02:22 I learned more about Peter Joint, what I was most excited about is that he would say yes to come and bring all of his inspiration and his brilliance to this community. And let me tell you about him, okay? He's an emcee, a producer, a public speaker, and he's from Ottawa, Ottawa, Canada. The Joint has been making music for over two decades. He has worked on projects for organizations like the Ottawa Senators, Rogers TV, and Ottawa Tourism. He has also performed for distinguished individuals such as the Governor General of Canada. One intriguing fact about Peter is that he stutters quite notice, notice, no. Did you like that the timing of that introduction and then i did yeah it's catchy
Starting point is 00:03:07 oh my god peter this is fantastic peter like here's the deal he stutters quite noticeably in conversation yet it disappears when he performs it's one of the many interesting characteristics that sets him apart as an artist and a public speaker. The Joint made waves in November 2011 when he released the single Cap City, a love song about Ottawa. The video went viral and landed Peter on the front page of the Ottawa Citizen newspaper. The news story was broadcast nationwide on radio and television and brought considerable attention to the Joint's music. The attention propelled Peter into this community as a public speaker. He now speaks regularly to kids at local schools about bullying, self-acceptance, and resiliency.
Starting point is 00:03:50 He has spoken at over 200 schools and almost 100 conventions and seminars. Humans settle in to the amazing. The joint is going to come today and tell us everything. Now, I want to know more than anything, Peter, the difference between empathy and judgment around here is always about context. When I know somebody's story, everything about them changes for me and every other human on this planet. So the question right out of the gate for everybody around here is, where did you come from?
Starting point is 00:04:20 Tell me, where did you come from? Well, first of all, thank you. This is such a treat to be on here. And yeah, where did I come from? I'm born and raised in Ottawa. And at about the age of five or six, I first started to develop a stutter, which will be very obvious and evident during this chat. And that was a really kind of huge thing in my life that has shaped it from then until now. It started with leaving class during school to sit down with a speech and language pathologist and
Starting point is 00:05:15 learn all sorts of tips and tricks to get the words out. And sure I could use those techniques today to chat with you and I wouldn't stutter. But I was like, whoa, I don't like to talk like that. I'm wild and excitable. And so it was in grade seven that I said, I don't enjoy this speech therapy thing. So I quit speech therapy and kind of carried on in my whole life and refused to let this thing hold me back and I've gone on to do some cool things despite having this speech impediment and this concept of kind of not judging a book by its, or showing them that I can still do it has been kind of a,
Starting point is 00:06:07 a driving force in all that I do. Okay. I, this is amazing where you sort of said like, listen, fuck it. I know this is what you want of me, but this is who I am. And if it makes you uncomfortable, then that's on you, not on me. And do you think that people completely, and here's my number one question, how much do people underestimate you based on? Oh, tons. Yeah. They think I'm, they think I'm dumb or I'm stupid and I'll come out to speak and I'll get stuck. And so I am 45 and I still get laughed at. I still get stuff like, oh, hi. If I'm out at a party or something and I have to introduce myself, I'll get stuck on my name and they'll say, oh, hi, Peter, I'm Matthew. And they just know when everyone's kind of trying to finish your sentence or chime
Starting point is 00:07:07 in or say this and that. And it's just like, people just chill. Give me a second to speak. So I confidently and proudly state, yes, I have a stutter. Big deal. And kind of from that point on, I get, I get the time to speak and kind of speak the way I do. Oh, and, and your truth. And I think here's the interesting thing about this as you were speaking, I was thinking, you know, the truth takes time. And in this very, very busy, noisy world, what a gift it is to have people have to slow down and respect the time it's going to take to get you to get the brilliance that is inside of you. Imagine if we did that for everybody. Tell me, tell me the basic of it. So you grew up in Ottawa, um, family system. what does that look like? Family system was extremely interesting.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Um, my mom and dad split up when I was about four and they both re married. So I've had four parents for as far back as I can. And I remember, and they remained good friends. four parents for as far back as I can remember. And they remained good friends. In fact, they, they each lived a block away from each other. And my brother and I would go back and forth between the houses one week on one week off. And we would all get together for like sunday night dinners
Starting point is 00:08:46 and stuff with all four folks sitting at the same table and so this kind of idea of of kind of working together so that it would work out for the kids is, look, I'm like tearing up just talking about it, but yeah, super cool. Way ahead of their time. Yeah, like- Way ahead of their time. Driving for us in terms of like, you can do it, mind over matter
Starting point is 00:09:22 and kind of being kind and ensuring that it all works out. So, whoa, that's a good start there. Boom. You got me right. You're plucking the heartstrings. You're welcome. This is, we rip our souls out around here and then put it back together. So isn't, isn't it? Okay, good. So, so, so I'm in the right place. Exactly. Yep. No, you're right on track. This is what I would expect from August. So you just came out of the gate hot, which I never expected anything less of you. And isn't it interesting when we think about where we come from? Because I think this is, you know, that badassery approach.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Which of the four did you get that from? Who, is it a combination of them? It's a good question. I would say definitely my mom and dad and the step parents as well. my dad was kind of a, a serial entrepreneur and a hard working guy and achieve success in that realm. And my mom also was like a bad-ass business lady and kind of retired after being the, the president and CEO of Canada Post,
Starting point is 00:10:45 which was not something a woman would have traditionally done. And so she kind of kicked ass throughout her career and proved that she could do it. So I've had these role models in my life that, um, achieve incredible success. So I'd say, and they were,
Starting point is 00:11:14 then all four of them encouraged me to sort of do whatever it was that I wanted to do. And that, yes, I could do it. Amazing. Yeah. So I come from a good crop. Oh, I can tell. I can tell. And where did that take you then? So we, we have a history. I mean, I, when I was reading the background, I mean, you and I were talking about this a little bit off air, but it's like, okay, so there's a Shopify stint in there before you become this amazing public speaker.
Starting point is 00:11:49 You've also won a car in Roll Up to Rim and a 50-50 at a CFL game. Like, you're a big shooter. And like, what is this culture job at Shopify? I'm a lucky shooter. I want to know all about the shooting. Tell me about the shooting. Yeah, yeah. So I first started out, I've had a job in
Starting point is 00:12:09 IT on a comms job so I would do a lot of writing and I picked up a video camera and figured out how to produce vid videos and at the same time I was writing songs and I'm a, I was writing rap songs and I would go out with friends and we'd film vid videos. And through all this, I developed these skills. And I like to think that it was interesting because I was in a spot where my passion and career coincided and I was doing kind of these creative projects and I I wrote this song Cap City and I'm being interviewed on the radio and and on tv and so on and at the same time I was invited by a school to come and and speak to a class for a career day about what it was like being a rapper, as though that was the full time job, which it was not.
Starting point is 00:13:17 It was totally moonlighting as a rapper and a song writer. And so I showed up at this school and they started to ask questions and I was responding and I was stuttering quite badly. And then all of the questions shifted from asking about rapping to asking about life as a stutterer and what was I bullied and teased and the answer was yes and so I talked about this experience in a radio and sort of view in the and then I just got all these calls saying can you come and speak about our school and that kind of snowballed and became a thing. And while it was going, I was kind of like, Oh, I have to figure all this out and kind of come up with a proper
Starting point is 00:14:15 presentation. And so I based it around this idea of like, if you put good vibes out there, you get good things in return. And then I won the car and roll up the rim to win, which was a great example of this kind of like, if you're kind and you do good things, yes, it's far fetched, but there's all these ways that you get things back and being kind is can paid just, and then I won. In fact, I'm just going to stop. I've got to, apparently my nose is running. Take your time. We've got nothing but time here. Blow my nose to get pound pound to get to blow my nose. All right. So, um,
Starting point is 00:15:02 so I went from winning this car and then i went to a to a cf bell game and i bought some 50 50 tickets and this was after i had um the same week I'd gone out of my way to help a good friend with a scene he was going through. And that same week I won the 50, 50 and I won $13,000. Holy shit. And then through all this, I'm kind of still right. I'm still writing songs. And, um, and I decided it was time for a career change, or not quite a career change. It was time to get a job somewhere else and have a fresh start.
Starting point is 00:15:59 So I applied to a job at Shopify. And I later found out 650 people applied to this one job and I got the job because of all the stuff I had done and I I could do video and I was doing all this stuff in schools and so I got the job and um my job is effectively to create fun content. So I write songs for work. I write fun skits. And the idea is to have it become a part of our culture and send it out to our thousands of employees
Starting point is 00:16:42 so that they think, wow, that's so great. I can't believe I work for a company that would have such cool video and songs and culture. So it's kind of like one thing led to the next, and it was basically like a collection of things that you all put towards your portfolio that when the time comes that someone knocks on your door you can say i've done all of this stuff and they say wow we want you so i've got a really cool job and i feel very fortunate in life to have done all these things i am not big time i'm not out there touring with
Starting point is 00:17:40 drake but i i've i have done all these small small things and I got a job where I get to do what I love. So that's a huge, that's success. A hundred percent that that's, so you're still working with Shopify. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. Still there. Woo. And then talk to me about the skateboarding world there in fact i should look at that there's a little shopify logo down there look at the little advertising promo there a little plug a little welcome shopify we can cut that out if we've got to yeah exactly no if they want to sponsor this podcast also we could just you know i think pitch to them listen bitches this is a good place to land Shopify. This is a good place to land. Yeah. Totally. So what, and then in this, in this spare time, the spare time,
Starting point is 00:18:33 the, the rapping, the music, what does family look like for you? Um, where's the skateboard obsession come from? There's a hundred questions for you yeah lots of old school skate decks there so yeah i have got two kids i have two girls they are eight and ten and they're super cute they are ruby and sadie and they have reached this great age where things are just fun and great. We're kind of through the dark times of COVID lockdowns where they've had to do like online schooling and dad's on a call and the kids are on a call and mom's on a call. And Dan, I have a great wife and we were doing great as a Family Unit. And yeah, around the house are a lot of these skateboards. When I was young, I skateboarded and became obsessed with the skate graphics from the 1980s. So about 25 years ago, I started co-flecting skateboards these are all from um they're between 1985 and 1989 and I've got around 75 of them downstairs all up on the wall and kind of uh gallery style and I'm a
Starting point is 00:19:59 fairly big co-flector in the in the skateboard world. And that's kind of what I do on the side when I'm not writing songs or producing videos. That's amazing. And I love the richness of it all, right? Help me understand a little bit about this world of stuttering, because I know, I don't think it's a thing, you know, speech pathologists I've worked with have been phenomenal in this world, but I, I don't know that we talk a lot about, you know, how a stutter starts. Is it genetic? Um, does it get worse for you sometimes? Can you dive into that a little bit for me? Because I would love this community to know a little bit more about that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:50 So stuttering is one of these things that they've done a lot of, a lot of studies on and they still don't understand how it occurs or why it occurs. But there's one theory, which is the one that I used to explain it, and that stutters use the right side of their brain to speak, whereas regular speakers use the left side of the brain, because that's the side for speech. And there's some sort of rewiring that occurs.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And therefore, stutterers speak with the side that is less adapt for speech, such that it's broken and in fact this is the same thing that occurs when folks have a stroke if they have a stroke often their speeches slurred or they'll develop a stutter or they can't speak and that's because the left side of their brain has been has been damaged and they're forced to use the right side so but something that's really interesting which is how i'm able to rap and sing is that whenever stutters do anything sort of creative like that singing or or acting or use singing accents something incredible happens within the brain and allows us to access the side that is made for speech for example if i
Starting point is 00:22:06 sing like this i wouldn't stutter not once i'm like hello everyone i can speak to you in a british accent it's a terrible accent i know but i would not stutter not once not ever and it's the same thing when i rap yo yo yo i could rap upon a microphone and so yeah this is, this is my party trick. And this is the thing I learned as soon as I found out I wanted to quit speech therapy. It's because I discovered this ability to use these voices and go into a character if I had to. And so it was, it was at the same time in grade seven that I figured this out and I would use these characters and stuff to, to keep up with friends and social situations. Sure, man, that sounds awesome. Let's do that. And, um, the same thing works in french
Starting point is 00:23:05 and so i would use it in school and in fact this this is probably a cool factoid like it's it's this um it's the use of all these like accents and kind of characters that took me from being sort of a shy guy that would rather keep his stutter hidden to being in to being kind of an extrovert and being able to talk and speak despite having this speech impediment. So it's so cool to how it's the reason why I'm comfortable speaking in front of large crowds. Hey, everyone. We all know how draining cold and flu season can be. Waiting rooms, missed appointments, and that worry about whether a fever is something serious.
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Starting point is 00:24:56 dive into Peloton workouts that work with you. From meditating at your kid's game to mastering a strength program, they've got everything you need to keep knocking down your goals. No pressure to be who you're not. Just workouts and classes to strengthen who you are. So no matter your era, make it your best with Peloton. Find your push. Find your power. Peloton. Visit Peloton at onepeloton.ca. Okay. And I have to tell you what just happened for me. So at the beginning of this conversation, I was like, okay, yep. Like in my head, I keep saying to myself, like, go slow, be very connected. Like, you know, cause you're right. The, the, the impulse, and I'm sure so many people have this
Starting point is 00:25:37 is to finish, to help you, to get you through it. Like, you know, that's my uncomfortableness, not yours. And so I was watching that and then to, to then tap into this skill that you've developed. I mean, I just, like, as I watched you do that, I was like, fuck yeah, Peter, like, look at you. And I, my first turn it into fun mode and just like fluency mode as well. Right. don't know why i had this thought but i was like if you ever get pissed off at your daughters or like you want to like you you know you need to say a few things and you're fucking mad about it like do you just break into character because you're just got to get it or do you like you will wait for me so hilarious that you bring this up this this this was exactly how we named our kids
Starting point is 00:26:27 because there were like names that we liked, but they were names I couldn't say. Like I'm not good saying M's or N's. And so the joke was like, you just get down here right now. Like, because I couldn't say their names and some said it's ruby and sadie which were like easy to say and so yeah there's it's exactly that and there's tons of times when i do break out into into song in fact when i won the car and roll up the rim to win, you roll up the rim and it says win Gangier Camry.
Starting point is 00:27:11 It was a Toyota Camry. And you're supposed to cut the tab off and you ship it off to a post office box. which is uh just some like fun canadiana is that um in the states if you win something a contest they tax you 50 50 50 right off the top whereas if you are in canada and you win something there's the skill testing question that you have to answer and that's because this is this old rule that was grandfathered in from way, way back to prove that you've earned it. You, you won a contest because you've earned it. It's not a lottery. Okay. So there I am. I finally get the call to answer the skill testing question for having one roll up the rim to win.'s a simple math question the lady is on the phone i'm like yeah i'm ready well let's do it she said that and i say it's sir sir are you still there oh boy i'm
Starting point is 00:28:18 still here then i could have this big convo with her and explain yes i have a stutter but it just so that happens the number you want is the is like it's a hard vowel which is like hard to say and i can't say it and so i tried again like no i couldn't and then finally i was like the answer is eight and she was like congratulations so it was like i had to say the the answer so i could win the car and that's when you go to like singing or use sing an accent and now sometimes with the with the kids because they're learning french i'll sometimes if i am about to get stuck, I'll like say a French word or two, just to pepper in some learning there.
Starting point is 00:29:10 And yeah, I do try all sorts of stuff to get the words there. And you had an interesting question there too. Like how, like, does it get worse? Or in the last sort of half a year, this has been the worst, the worst it's been. I'm stuttering them. Most I've ever started and I've tried to figure out, is it like, I cut out caffeine. Is it that I've cut out drinking? Is it that?
Starting point is 00:29:49 And it's, it's, it's not. So I'm back on both. Okay. That's a dumb rule. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I'm a parent and I need both of those. Yeah. Yeah. So I've tried, like I've tried all sorts of stuff. And I've actually, um, I've tried all sorts of stuff. And I've actually, I've, I've talked to speech therapists and I've, I've spoken at Ottawa U and specifically for a speech therapy program. And I chat with that and I'm, I'm trying to learn and there's no rhyme or reason to it, but it certainly makes things like this awkward where it's being
Starting point is 00:30:36 recorded. Because if you think about like a traditional radio or podcast, if someone's listening and there's dead air, it's like that is the worst thing that could occur. And so it's one of these strange things that I wish I could fix, which I can a bit with some fun. But I also think it's super important to be real and show yourself struggling and stumbling in order to show the reel. And then you come around with the, with the fun and the kind of the, the tricks that you use to get the words out. I have to tell you that this has been the best podcast I have ever done because your, your bravery is profound to me and your intentionality behind teaching that I think is such a gift because I, I mean, I can tell you the biggest thing we are facing in this world, particularly from a mental health perspective is disconnection. And when we are going so fast,
Starting point is 00:31:47 trying to finish each other's sentences, and you are saying deliberately, you be patient because what I have to say is important. You can't tell somebody how to do that. You've got to show them. I can't imagine how proud your babies are of you. What a critical gift. I mean, again, I hear the pain.
Starting point is 00:32:05 I hear probably how often it's been. I'm tearing up hearing you say this. Thank you. And thank you because I can't imagine how hard it has had to be to sit in that truth and stick to that truth when the world, no doubt, wants you to be faster and quicker and to get, you know, out all of your brilliance and you steadfastly are being able to say like, listen, fuckers, I, I have a lot to say, but I need to show you how to do it. So I, I'm just, I'm amazed. And I am so grateful. Shana brought us together. Cause she was exactly right. You're fucking brilliant. Um, I, how do you, how do you translate? Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. As I formulate my next question. Um, how do you translate that message to, to students? Because I think, you know, as you said, you know, 200 times, you know, I speak, you know, as so much these days. You know, how do we stay connected? How do we get around the chippiness that seems to be so prominent with our kids and
Starting point is 00:33:10 our partners? It's, you know, this, this idea of being able to not be unkind is the crux of how we do it. And so how do you teach that? Where do you start with the people you get to speak to? trick or sprinkle in some, some pixie dust. Like once they've felt that discomfort and I think, or it's whenever I get up and speak at a school and everyone kind of comes into the gym or the auditorium and they sit down and everyone's like, what's up with this guy? Okay. This better be good. Like everyone's trying to figure it out. And then I start to speak and I'm stud during an everybody's like, you can hear them gasping or, or, and then sometimes I'll get stuck and folks are yelling the words of it. Say, cause they're trying to fit in mish my sentences and i say but wait i can do i can do all these things i can rap i can this and
Starting point is 00:34:38 that and they're all thinking like yeah right like sure dude like and then i then i do a song i i do a um a song within the first kind of five minutes of my hour-long set and from that second on they are all like they're your biggest fans and like leaning in and they're like wow but he was like that and now he's like this wait what and then i oh look at this you've we've we have really got it going on we're here but yeah i think this concept of like kind of showing your yourself and then saying just because you're like this does not mean you can't do all of this and i love that kind of or like there's just a lot of power in that so. Did not expect to get so emotional. Jodi, you're doing it to me.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Thank you. This is called therapy. I'm just joking. I'm just joking. What I love the most about this concept, right? Is that when you feel it in the room with other people and you can appreciate how much just speaking your truth, which is honestly the name of the game for many of us. Authenticity, uh, vulnerability really comes in joy. Vulnerability really comes in sort of dropping that curtain for a minute and not being, you know, people I think really misunderstand, you know, then do I just have to like lay it all on the line and make everybody feel uncomfortable? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:36:20 The idea of being your true self, even at the expense of making other people temporarily uncomfortable or wondering a little bit about that, is how we create the most connected communities. And I think you personify that. And so I can imagine when you reflect on what that feels like or what you witnessed in a bunch of adolescents coming into a gym, and we all know they're doing their very best to stay connected. They're assholes. That's their job. And we, when we expect anything more from them, it's like, we've got to show them how to do it. And so you bring them in,
Starting point is 00:36:54 they are assholes. They're finishing your sentence. They're probably stuttering to each other. They're doing other things. And then you navigate that into, and this is who I also am. And then they sink in that that's what we want to show them how to do in their relationships to each other, right? Is that it's not to devoid you of bullying behavior, or we're not going to undo bullying. Bullying will happen because people have always been assholes. They need, the chaos is necessary to lean, to learn the calm. And when I show you how to do it, when I hold you accountable for those experiences, then you're like, Oh fuck, I felt bad that I finished your sentence. Cause though, God, that was more about me than it was about you. And you demonstrate that in one fell swoop,
Starting point is 00:37:34 I think is just fucking brilliant. And what do you leave them with? Like what, what is you, what do you notice the most in the shift? Yeah, just these, I'll do a talk and then at the end is a Q&A and all the questions tend to often be calm. Ments, I'm to restart that. Yeah, so what do they leave with? Yeah, it's exactly as you said. They've kind of gone from judging
Starting point is 00:38:21 and making up this idea of what and who i am and then i take them through this journey of struggling with a stutter but then i've done this and i've done that and i won a car and i did this and that and then they're kind of left with this idea of like like they feel badly that they judged so hard at the start, not knowing that all these things could still occur and that I could still razzle and dazzle. So an ultimate, they kind of self-realize that they shouldn't judge folks because they could have a stutter or they could have a, um, uh, food allergy or a learning disability or this and that. Then I, I state,
Starting point is 00:39:18 I say, we all have a thing. We all have to have a thing. All, all these students down here and all the teachers sitting around the edge, we all have a thing that we're self-conscious about and that we don't want folks to see. But when you show it and you kind of own that thing, and you're like, here's the thing I have because I know you have one too. You can feel far. You can feel comfortable in your own skin knowing that we've all got that thing. And it's like, and I often think about this, we are way more alike than we are different. And when we can draw those parallels, right?
Starting point is 00:40:01 Like I feel it too. We make the assumption, particularly with the access to social media and all the highlight reels around the world that everybody's got their shit together. And we don't. And I say that about, you know, me all the time, you know, prepping for this interview, being like, do I know what I'm going to say? Holy fuck. Like, do I, I don't know anything about stuttering. I should have done my homework. I should like, and then it's like, you just be authentic and real with somebody and you just sort of get to know their story. And it's, it's amazing. Right? Like people are hard to hate close up. And, and especially if there is a physical disability, uh, an emotional disability, I feel like that is particularly difficult for people to just sit with
Starting point is 00:40:42 because of their own, I don't know, embarrassment, uh, worry, shame, whatever that is. And I, I mean, how do you address that? I mean, do you, do you teach people about that? Do you, do you have conversations about those things? I'm sure all the time. Yeah. I, I, I've often said that it's so counterintuitive, this idea of we try to keep ourselves guarded so we appear strong. true self and show your cracks and you'll and you're vulnerable ladies and once you do that folks relate because they've got those too and it's and it's just so interesting that for so long we've as i say we've kept ourselves guarded be like oh no i couldn't possibly cry in front of men or I couldn't possibly show that side. But when you do, that's what makes people love you. When you do, that's what makes people love you.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I think that is so profound. And I think that's what so many of us are looking for, right, is to feel seen, to feel like, uh, who we are is honored and we got to give people an opportunity in safe ways, small ways, testing that out. And you know, when it's safe to do that, I think makes the biggest world of difference. What's next for you? Where, where, what happens? What's next for, for the job? yes i am um i just wrote a brand new song and i just filmed a vid deal for it last week and i'm going to release it in a couple of weeks it's called island park drive which is this street and odd the weather is notoriously slow like it's like it's constant traffic the speed limit is low and so i've written kind of a fun song about the idea of enjoying going slow like you you you know this street is gonna be slow if if the second you choose to take that route it's gonna be slow so roll roll down those windows and just enjoy the ride oh oh my god i
Starting point is 00:43:10 can't wait to hear it i can't wait to hear it and okay where can people find you yeah what's because you want to do more speaking this is the gig what is that is that the focus for you I have a website. It's the joint dot C a that's J O Y N T. And you can find I'm on socials. I'm the joint on Instagram or cap city on Twitter, which is now known as X newsflash. It's now called X. Okay. There it is.
Starting point is 00:43:43 It's so new. So new. Yeah yeah i do then i do all sorts of um speaking gigs at schools but also at conferences and stuff and interesting interestingly enough it's the same talk for kids as it is for adults it's it's it it's home and it's a good, um, thing that we all need to hear. I love that. I think that's the truth of a universal message. I say that too. Um, my slide deck never changes. So I'm in front of cops or farmers or parents just trying to figure out how they operate in this world. The same slide deck applies because we're all just trying to figure it out. I think
Starting point is 00:44:25 that's so true. Um, so listen from the bottom of my heart today, this, um, this was such a critically important conversation and I cannot wait, um, for this community to, to find it, to support you, to follow all the things that are fixing to happen here, uh, in Peter Joint's world. It was an honor. It was an honor. Thanks. And same, I'm a big fan. And thank you for inviting me to come on and for getting the old waterworks going. That's real. Oh, I believe it to the core of me.
Starting point is 00:44:59 And isn't that the truth, right? When you get to sink into your old truth, that's often what happens. And it was an honor to be a part of it. Listen, listen, friends, I, uh, I hope you enjoyed this as much as I did and, uh, share it with everybody you love because the authenticity here is, is not something you can make up. So, um, in the meantime, take care of yourself, take care of each other, and, uh, I'll meet you right back here, uh, this time next week. The Everyone Comes From Somewhere podcast is produced by the incredibly talented and handsome team at Snack Labs, Mr. Brian Seaver, Mr. Taylor McGilvery, and the infamous Jeremy Saunders.
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