Unpaid And Underrated - 046 : Piss Gift From The Piss Gods

Episode Date: March 26, 2024

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Jordan. They dive right into some great topics like beets, hemorrhoids, Fanta, poop, wrestling, pillow cases, and cats. Links Follow The Podcast On Instagram... @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @wongstwong (https://www.instagram.com/wongstwong/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Jordan.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, welcome to 826th episode of the Unpaid and Underrated Podcast. Podcast by crew, for crew, relentlessly mocked by crew, and me being sick every week. Crew. mocked by crew and uh me being sick every week crew so i'm only like half sick this week so i kind of sound like myself but like not like like i can go into like sexy voice sick sexy voice but i'm not gonna really i am gonna do that kermit the frog voice did you see the one where i was doing the Oh god I can't remember her name now Let's finish this intro I'm Big Keith
Starting point is 00:00:51 And we're joined this week by Big Jordan Wong So tired I'm not even that medicated this week So I can't promise I'll be as funny Yeah Big Jordan Wong Got him on here got keith on here we're doing a live uh let's get dived right in um jordan i see that you were drinking the biggest bottle of water i've ever seen yes it's called a gallon yeah gallon of water shit the goad
Starting point is 00:01:22 yeah yeah i was i've been at um lego land with my daughter the past two days so i haven't been drinking shit except for the six dollar bottles of water they have at the park and but a lot of them but it doesn't equal a gallon and so i'm thirsty as shit right now yeah totally out of routine you know and probably broke because i imagine anything you're paying like seven dollars for like a 12-ounce bottle of water or something. Oh, yeah. Popcorn is like $7. Pretty much anything is a minimum of $7.
Starting point is 00:01:54 I got a... She got an ice cream today. She just likes vanilla ice cream. So, they made like a milkshake at the park I was at, and she doesn't like any of the shit in there. So she's, I just want the vanilla. So I paid $10 for a cup of vanilla ice cream.
Starting point is 00:02:12 That's good stuff. Fuck it. Right. Yeah. What we do for daughters. Yep. Well, I'm rocking out the liquid death this week.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I pretty much ran out of everything in the house. So I went out and a little, a grocery grocery store run and got about a month's worth of random stuff. So Liquid Death buried alive. And this must be the new tall boy because I swear this is definitely like a third bigger than the last one I had. That's actually why I can't do Liquid Death anymore. It's so much water. What is Liquid Death?
Starting point is 00:02:40 So it's just a flavor. It's a sparkling water just named. Oh, it's a sparkling water? Yeah, I mean, it's just it's right up there with bubbly and like you know all the other you know like for somebody i can't think of any other names but yeah it's it's a good it's got a deep robust flavor it's whereas a lot of the other ones we would like to joke and say they are a flavor uh what flavor adjacent or something like that or you know whatever funny thing we say. Essence. Essence, yeah, yeah, yeah. But liquid death's actually like, it tastes more like soda-y, I guess, than, you know, it just has a lot more flavor. I'd like to try it.
Starting point is 00:03:11 I've always seen it at the gas station. People always think it's just like booze or pre-workout. It's a $4 bottle of sparkling water, but it's pretty good. Well, I actually prefer the unflavored. I actually, I didn't like any of the flavored ones I had, but it's also, yeah, like it's like, it's a sleeve of water.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Like it's like the size of my head. Like it's so much. Um, I've got a red Fox going because of course I do. I ran out of sparkling water. What's that? I don't know what that is either. Ah,
Starting point is 00:03:44 a red Fox is, um is a beet infused ale. Sounds like shit, but okay. Oh, it's delicious. Because it's the sweet part of beets with a taste of the earthiness. It's not dirt beer, but it's close. I'm that beer guy that I'm assuming someone like you would be like, oh, you drink piss water. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Yeah. Yeah. Uh, to an extent, I like my, I used to be really into craft beers, like really in. And then like,
Starting point is 00:04:16 I was just like, no, I don't care. Just give me what I like now. And it's, this one is here from Ontario. And then I have my Keith's Keats, which is from out East.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Otherwise I'm drinking like Coors banquet. Right. Like I don't. And then sometimes, sometimes we get into that. We actually call it grapefruit farts here on this podcast. Like when it's like hoppy where it tastes like the asshole of a grapefruit. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Yeah. That's like shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The juicy IPAs and stuff. asshole of a grapefruit right yeah that's okay it's like shit yeah yeah yeah yeah the juicy ipas and stuff like some of them are okay like when they're more heavy on the citrus but then they just get weird like i'm a i'm a firm believer that people don't actually really like that stuff oh yeah we're like really like it yeah they just make sure everybody can see them drinking it yes yeah this one this one's more of a it's sweetened with beets so like it doesn't have that that kind of flavor to it it has that um like what like beets have their own sugars in them that are just
Starting point is 00:05:17 amazing i like beets right i like earthy tastes like my cigars i like them earthy um you know my coffee i prefer if it's a dark roast, especially an African dark roast that has that kind of earthy flavor to it. This really suits my palate. It suits my palate. What?
Starting point is 00:05:37 I prefer my Bose headphones and my Apple AirPods over the Beats. Okay. Jordan got it. I got it. Yep. Power to the people in the beats. My jokes aren't funny. That was pretty fucking good. What are you wearing this week,
Starting point is 00:05:54 Big Jordan? What am I wearing? What shirt are you rocking? I don't have a Masonomics shirt on. I didn't get to change it. That's close enough. Well, it's a live large shirt i wore today to have a pig world and they have had a collab with yeah yeah they're they're massonomic adjacent so that's yeah so we've all got we've all got some of their stuff yeah i just got home
Starting point is 00:06:19 from everything so oh hopefully you didn't have to cut anything short for us but we appreciate you being here of course not I'm rocking out the new Masonomics strength is a number weight is a number strength is a number strength is a number shirt strength is a number heavy is a feeling I don't even have that shirt and I know what it says
Starting point is 00:06:40 I have it on a hoodie and a shirt I just sometimes words don't sound the same in your mouth as they do in your head what it says oh yeah i well i have it on a hoodie and a shirt i just uh sometimes words don't uh sound the same in your mouth as they do in your head uh i'm wearing the shirt that mike van wick sent me um when i ordered the last drop he like doubled up something on your right or something like whatever this dude must think i'm tiny so at the arnold he gives me a 3x sweater right which i did i appreciate it like i'm not knocking it at all it's so cool he even does this stuff so at the arnold he gives me a 3x sweater and i was like
Starting point is 00:07:10 well i guess i gotta get bigger so then i order a large hoodie in the drop and he sends me an xl shirt and i'm just like this like mike just thinks i'm small yeah he's he's hinting at something but it's just got his face on it it's it's one of the ones from the Olympia that he must have had left over. He gave them up to everybody. But I wanted to be comfortable and cozy in my Too Big shirt today. Did you guys get a chance? Did you get a chance to listen to this week's episode? Anybody?
Starting point is 00:07:39 I consumed it, yes. With CT Fletcher? Yeah, I listen to that. I actually usually listen to them on YouTube on Sunday nights. Oh, nice. Sunday nights are typically when I finish up the last of my work I have left. And I always listen to stuff while I do stuff because, I don't know, it's just what I do. And about 7 p.m.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Every Sunday night, it comes out. So it gives me something new. And I usually don't finish it until the next morning. Took me two days. That's fair. I consume a lot of it. I think one thing we did forget to cover, but you probably know it just from the, you know, listening to a few of our episodes. We do rate each Mastinomics episode on a scale of one to five of massonomics gym ipod touches so you had if you had to give it a rating uh what would you give it this week uh on the
Starting point is 00:08:30 massonomics ipod touches five that's a good rating that's a very good rating we'll go with that uh so yeah i enjoyed it uh ct is always a fun listen i think i've listened to a couple podcasts enough him probably maybe i can't even remember, but it definitely consumed a lot of his YouTube content. That's kind of hard to recall what's been YouTube and what's, you know, podcast, but all the car talk was fun to listen to.
Starting point is 00:08:54 You know, anytime the boys are there having a good time, you know, I thought CT's grandkid, you know, being in the room and climbing over him and keep asking him for shit. Like half the episode was really amusing. And how I just kind of like, he was just like, you know, he kept room and climbing over him and keep asking him for shit like half the episode was really amusing and how I just kind of like he was just like you know
Starting point is 00:09:08 he kept like telling him to like kind of he didn't at no point was like an asshole to his kid or anything like that it was all just like you know you know grandpa's trying to do something but it was very like calm and collected like where you wouldn't think you think CT would be kind of like what are you doing get off me so that was just I got a kick out of that so
Starting point is 00:09:23 go ahead and give CT's episode five massomics gym ipod touches this week uh yeah go ahead oh sky i liked it because he was like the youtube one of the first youtube guys i i didn't really watch all of his stuff i used to always see him in all the videos and things like that so it's cool hearing him like on an actual episode talking about shit rather than just screaming at the camera yeah i've met him a few times at different events he was actually just here in uh florida at one of the expos at a meet i was at same demeanor like not very loud and totally different you know youtube and over your life thing but i guess that happens a lot right oh yeah for sure well i think he's like
Starting point is 00:10:05 he's gotta be like i was gonna say he's gotta be damn near 70 right or at least he's on the spot now so yeah i'll say what about you joey what would you what would you uh definitely enjoyed the episode i love ct i wish i could just hear ct read books i think he's just got such a voice yeah like he just has such a voice that like he would just anything he tried to teach you you would absorb um yeah the grandkid stuff was great i really enjoyed the well what did your mom say she said yes well then the answer is yes and it's like it's cute that you believed the kid like good work for you ct um the car talk was really funny because i don't know anything about
Starting point is 00:10:46 cars and when i was messaging my brother and i was like hey um i was telling the guys about your car and he's like oh impress them by telling me them you know all this and i was like i'm not gonna lie to everybody like i don't not gonna pretend i know anything about your car so that was really funny um not getting mentioned for the hall of fame because i was like right after you so they mentioned four names and then i was fifth yeah and i was just like that's fine everything's fine i mean we got next week so yeah we got our own hall of fame chat right we got our own stuff to talk about there and uh yeah so i'm gonna have to go ahead and give that five massonomics gym ipod touches i think that's a pretty reasonable rating that's good so it sounds like they got uh
Starting point is 00:11:33 five out of five across the board on your uh still your motherfucking massonomics gym ipod touches so that's good stuff yeah kevin make sure you uh record all that makes like we're not skewing anything there. Sure. What about any of the YouTube videos? The full blog, I think came out Friday. So we would have missed it when we recorded last week. And then the Meg squats came out a couple of days ago, just like a short little,
Starting point is 00:11:53 you know, like five minute thing with the, which I really enjoyed this. I really enjoyed that. They were able to actually get out like that. The crew that you, you know, people that made it to the Arnold were able to actually like hold the
Starting point is 00:12:02 fort down literally for probably, I don't know. I was like a half hour, hour, however long they actually went and were able to go like mingle and do stuff. I would, I think it was, I would say it was about an hour. Cause I think most of that was recorded on Saturday and Sunday. So the Saturdays when I was there and, um, I was in and out. Um, I kind of just said like, I'm here to help sell stuff, but I don't want to touch anybody's money. Like that was my rule.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Like I will help you sell. I will close. I'll do all of that. But when it comes to actually exchanging money, I'm going to ask for help because like, you know, it's like when you're a bar back, like you'll help, but I don't want to be responsible for shortages. Like I don't want to, I don't want anybody to accuse me that I ended up eventually tagging in on that.
Starting point is 00:12:42 But that's what we did. Right. Like two of us would stay at the at the booth the whole time so they could just out right and i think they interviewed meg on the saturday because that's when i got told she's crew with a little nudge nudge wink wink from tanner like you know she's supporting right nudge nudge wink wink um so i did watch that one uh not enough not enough crew in this one i think the first one they did had was like mostly crew centered and this one was mostly like arnold centered yeah so
Starting point is 00:13:13 naturally i just missed seeing my friends on camera but i did oh i did actually watch them i almost never watch them jordan i almost never watch these youtube things usually it's just me explaining the youtube video to the other two guests like 80 of the time it's like so this this happened and then that happened so uh what about you jordan jude if you're watching their podcast on sunday i can imagine you at least watch some other youtube video content yeah yeah so i saw the meg squats one first um i've known megan a long time so like when she first burst like burst onto the scene she was like the female social media power lifter for sure honestly i don't even know if she didn't meet yet when she got popular or maybe she just did her first one but yeah like we've known each other a while so i of course
Starting point is 00:13:57 if i know someone i usually watch it when it pops up my feed um i think it's funny because i've always thought she looks like emily blunt from uh that movie they had to be quiet the quiet place yeah yeah yeah yeah i agree whatever you refer to her as my in my head and then the actual vlog i did not finish it that was for sure it was a bit was a big one so it's been 24 minutes usually what i do is i have a whole bunch of things on youtube i watch i'll watch it until i'm doing like i don't and then i'll x out of it and then find it later on and finish it i have like seven different things in queue all the time good stuff yeah i i watched you know i watched pretty much watch most of them
Starting point is 00:14:41 as they drop or you know whenever i get the chance so uh you know it's always cool seeing the arnold stuff and uh just first i i don't that's definitely the first time i've seen meg in a while like i don't i don't know that i see her in my feed very often honestly anymore so it's kind of good to see she's out there still doing her thing so just had a kid yeah yeah i know it's just weird like it's as people that we follow i've been following people for almost a decade now probably that have like our fitness people so the people that used to be like like as people's path progresses you know it's just like it's weird uh you know when you kind of do catch back up with them like okay so this is what you're doing now it's like you're still into fitness but you're
Starting point is 00:15:16 you know doing your own i mean not that she's she's just not doing the same content she did 10 years ago basically you know it's just morphed into whatever it is. She's definitely helping women put barbells in their hands, so that's not a bad thing at all. From what I can tell, she's definitely shifted more to a general population type thing and is obviously very business-minded in what she does. Yeah. I think it's great. Yeah, it's smart.
Starting point is 00:15:39 If you're going to do this for a living, if you're going to be for a living you you know you know if you're gonna be in a personality and selling your programs and having your um she has a whole supplement line too so it's like you know it's all got to be centered around the brain to make money because she's not she's not doing this for the shits and giggles like we are she's actually got to you know pay her bills it was funny as one like we're talking about this in a positive manner, but you ever noticed when someone like her or really anyone, they start to get good at that. People just talk shit on them about being like a promoter or influencer or
Starting point is 00:16:15 whatever. It's like, they're making a living doing what they like to do. Shut the fuck up. Yeah. Yeah. As long as they're not like grifting, right? Like they're not out here eating testicles and claiming Natty and all that shit like that that's a grift yeah i mean i think liver king is a i think he's very smart like but so like to me right like i get it he lied and whatever but i don't think anyone actually believed in terms of no god i almost felt like that was the gimmick like i felt like the gimmick was saying he did all this shit and i had no idea he actually sold supplements
Starting point is 00:16:52 until that whole um like exposure happened like up until then i was like this guy is everyone talking about him he makes a point to say he doesn't take anything but i feel like he's doing it on purpose to get people talking like i feel like that was the game like i thought it was a gimmick so like i don't think many people actually thought he ate just the raw meat and that's how he got jacked i mean that's all i got yeah i i mean there's a lot more levels to him too right like the whole you know me and my queen sleep in a darkened room with dampeners that no electricity can get through like that kind of stuff where he was like i'm so primal but i'm a millionaire like stuff like that that yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:17:37 like yeah the whole thing so i never really said like oh what an idiot like he's lying to us i just figured everyone kind of realizes he's lying realizes he's lying and he just went with it and capitalized like he was at the ufc fights in miami the other night like someone uh like down on the floor like don't think he was eating raw meat there yes everywhere he goes he's just eating he was right next to Donald Trump who was also eating raw meat yes Keith you got a fun
Starting point is 00:18:12 being in Canada I don't get any fun stuff nobody wants to ship shit to me so you get all the fun stuff maybe yours is just coming but I will send out a disclaimer anyone that wants to send anything that actually is going to make it on the podcast as a, you know, a sack segment, like you got to put somewhere on the header, like unpaid or underrated or like I know you can put like a title or something or just add it to my name. Just do you and you do my name because like I'm going to open an email I get. So like this would have been an hysterical blind sack segment.
Starting point is 00:18:42 We're going to go into it as a sack segment that I already know, but it'll be a blind one for Jordan, I guess. So, Big Jordan, I got a gift from one of my fellow crew, I'm assuming, an anonymous gift. It's from dicksbymail.com. So, I got a bag of gummy bear dicks. So, I guess I'm going to eat the first dick on this podcast and, you know, down the hatch. I have a story. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I have a story. So this is very ironic. So four years to the, like, have you guys been kind of like following me for like at least three, four or five years or so? Yeah. Yeah. So four years. Maybe not Joey, but I've been there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:25 four years of the day maybe not joey but i've been there yeah four years of the day today was the first day i opened up my home to everyone during the covid shutdowns the house along thing and i had some pain in the ass neighbors i had neighbors right next door and then a guy down the street and everything's public record so once this went to the whole like city and i had to like go in there hearing court bullshit. I got the public records, saw the emails and who complained and all that. So the guy who started this all,
Starting point is 00:19:52 I call him, um, fuck. So it was someone's dad, his email, someone's Dalton's dad. So Dalton's dad's a bitch. Um,
Starting point is 00:20:02 so I have their address, their name and everything. So I sent them a bag, their name and everything. So, I sent them a bag, like, that exact package. I wanted to do much worse, but, like, I didn't. I think this is, like, this is good. This is, like, funny. Because, like, I've said it before, I think.
Starting point is 00:20:23 If someone ever sent a box of shit to my house, I'd, like, punch them in the face. Like, it would, like very um not not professional and like my wife even said like she'd be super offended and extremely pissed off so never don't ever send shit to my house but gummy bears that look like dicks that's fucking hysterical so yeah i was in this guy's house yeah like well that guy sounds like he might have earned it but like i didn't yeah no you didn't but yeah i thought about that there there's a website with a whole bunch of stuff you can do and like you can they send out like cow shit to people and all this other crazy stuff so like that was that was an option but i didn't do it i was saving that for later on but i got around to it someone sent my boss uh a big chocolate like a literal like like an eight inch chocolate dick once
Starting point is 00:21:05 and he was he was stupid enough to fucking uh like give it out at like a uh i guess every month they had like a sales meeting and whoever had the lowest sales he fucking gave him the chocolate dick and then eventually they got fucking written up for that because it's extremely unprofessional but uh one of my friends he works in a work setting, and I had to mail him something one day. And me and him go back. We used to talk shit to each other all the time. So he was talking shit to me about something at one point. I had to mail him something.
Starting point is 00:21:36 So I put it in a big box. And for some reason, he always had a sense to his work. So I put discountdildos.com as the return address. That's good stuff uh but to close out on the bag of dicks i appreciate whoever sent it it was funny i'm assuming it was crew if not like that's even weirder yeah i hope that was just like somebody that just plain don't like you yeah i'm thinking it was a day honestly i think it was a david because it was a test to David. It was like my full name, David Keith. Yeah, that sounds...
Starting point is 00:22:10 Yeah, one of the Davids. Yeah, because I think that's part of the bit is that it was a David, but maybe not. I don't know. But either way, it was funny. I had a good time with it. It actually tasted like shit, though. It wasn't a very good gummy bear. That was not his favorite gummy dick.
Starting point is 00:22:26 He's apparently tasted better. It didn't have a catheter in it, so, you know, it was all let down. Oh, I forgot about that. That's a harken back, so. Good stuff. Well, I got to meet this weekend. I'm freaking half sick, so I'm hoping I can just power through and not, you know, just will myself not to allow my wife's cold to like take over my body uh you know so far so good kind of feel like shit got one more day of work and then it's usa pl meet so it's uh you know it's
Starting point is 00:22:55 the though they run two set they'll run two sessions so it kind of sucks that i gotta i can't lift to like 2 30 in the afternoon where i'm used to doing like all the meets up well not all but historically i do meets i'm like okay cool it's nine o'clock i'm like squatting my third attempt right now already or something and now it's like okay fuck it's it's it's like fucking three o'clock afternoon i'm taking my first squat it's very weird to me i just i'm used to a morning meet so but this is like i think the third usap meet i've done that have had this had that same setup so like at this point i get it but it, but it's just not what I prefer. Two sessions.
Starting point is 00:23:30 It's two sessions. My session only had like 30 lifters. Two flights of like 14. I already know, personally, a couple guys dropped out, so it would be a quicker meet. Ideally, three, four hours max, hopefully closer to three. Yeah, that'll be a good time. Two sessions seems kind of normal now. Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's become very common, I've noticed.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Yeah. Sorry, I interrupted. What were you saying? No, no, it was just, you know, I went into this meet when I signed up for it initially. I was like, oh, it'll just be a little more. I prefer competing two times a year when I can, but it's just like with timing, it sucks because I'm going to, we're all going out to Live Hard, Live Easy. So like that's in July.
Starting point is 00:24:08 So I want to time it right to where I'm trying to, you know, in a perfect world, it's every six months you do a meet, not fucking, you know, you, you have a nine month layoff and then you do a meet in three months again. And it's just, uh, you know, it kind of is what it is. It's, there's only so many options to do meets and I'd, you know, I'd rather do two than, you know, wait for that perfectly time when that might not ever come. So is this, is this a payout meet? I don't know. I wouldn't imagine. They might be like, here's a bag of supplements or something
Starting point is 00:24:34 for best lifter or something, but no. Okay, so I'm glad Jordan's on this because Jordan will have more insight to this. You put a poster up for your meet there uh and they're charging spectators 15 and they're charging the coaches 30 another 15 did you also know did you also pay a registration fee oh well it's you took usap registration 70 but that solely goes to usapl the meat director doesn't see a penny of that do you pay to register for the meat oh the meat's like a you know it's like 120 bucks with a t-shirt so it's like a hundred dollar registration so yeah i mean they're i mean they put a lot of work i'm not gonna bust their balls i mean they i know but i mean there's also an extent where like i was looking at my last
Starting point is 00:25:17 meet and it's like 120 registration the prize is a 3d printed little medallion and like they're charged like i but the idea of charging your handler your coach is insane to me is that normal i think this is so they're in a smaller place now too so i think they're trying to make it well it's a bigger place but it's i haven't been to a meet there yet i've been to a strongman show there yet but i haven't been to a meet yet but i'm assuming it's the the warm-up room will be smaller so i'm looking at it as they're trying to curb someone having four handlers and their buddies sitting back there taking up the warm-up room space so that's how i'm looking at it so yeah yes my my that makes sense to me but like my meets i'm allowed to have one handler they get in for free with my registration anybody else is just not allowed like get out if you're not that one
Starting point is 00:26:05 handler is that again i've only ever done wrpf meets is that like a normal thing this is the first time they've charged but every i mean their new space they're paying their their rent has like tripled from what where they moved to so it's like i i'm not gonna bust their balls they're like all the gym owners are friends of mine so it's like no no i'm not looking at 50 bucks to do the meat but i just haven't done that many meets i just have questions like is this a normal thing every i mean jordan i'm sure like every meat director does what they need to do to make a little bit of money and i think most of them break even honestly and you know i can't i don't think any meat director is buying a new truck off his profits no i don't think that either it's a year you know it might I just, again, like I just,
Starting point is 00:26:45 I've never seen coaches be charged. I've seen, I, everything's different. Every, every federation has their own thing. Every, everything is different.
Starting point is 00:26:54 It's crazy. Sorry. I have a lot of insight on this. I mean, obviously I'm a director, but I'll kind of go to not my meets first. I have noticed that like the, what they call the pro level meets,
Starting point is 00:27:07 they do charge an ass load of money for a coach or a handler, which I guess I'll ignore my own stuff until later. So they, they've been doing that limiting it to one to two spots. However, every meet I've been to, once you get past squats, they don't give a shit. Who's in the warmup room. Like it's like, However, every meet I've been to, once you get past squats,
Starting point is 00:27:27 they don't give a shit who's in the warm-up room. It's like, let's say I brought you in as my handler, and Joey wasn't there as my handler. Joey wouldn't be able to get in during squat warm-ups. Then all of a sudden, the meat starts flowing. The guy who's volunteering to patrol the door gets a little lazy. Joey's in there by bench. Easy. Like 100%. I've never been to a meet strictly enforced.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I would say Alex Usler does a good job at it, at the Ghost Meet, enforcing a little better because just the way it works. Like how to get in. It's one straight shot. And that, yeah, and the spec hating fee. Like a lot of the meets I've been to as a lifter lately have been like the ghost clash american pro so it is a little more money but from my view as a meat director i kind of understand why they charge so much and that's because the staff you bring on they put on meets at like big venues so like alex from ghost he rents out the the tank brewery in miami so he
Starting point is 00:28:26 rents out space out for a whole day two days three days technically i think the setup and stuff so like he's probably paying i don't want to like don't quote me on this but i guarantee you he's paying at least 15 000 for the weekend just recouping that prize money for the lifters etc etc paying your staff making money as the meat director, everything like that. But then if you take into account, like you're speaking about for Keith's meat, they're not giving out any prize money. They're probably at a gym. So I get why they're charging more, but for the bigger meats,
Starting point is 00:29:00 I definitely see why they're doing it. So when I go to my meats, and I'll be pretty transparent in how I run things, I'm in a little different spot than most local meet directors. So I pretty much force myself to pay X amount of money per meet, especially the bigger ones. So my December meet,
Starting point is 00:29:17 I put out the posters last night. King of the platform, queen of the platform, $5,000 payout to the best lifter, $500 per biggest squat, biggest bench, biggest deadlift. So that's what? 13 grand? It's like right there. That's what I got to make up.
Starting point is 00:29:34 And then I pay my staff. I feel like I'm pretty generous to the staff compared to other meat directors. I don't fucking pay anything except pizza. Maybe you get 50. That's what I'm saying. Like you can shoot. Yeah. I have judges that travel fucking pay anything except pizza. Maybe you get 50 bucks. That's what I'm saying. Like, you can shoot. Yeah. I have judges that travel across the state for me.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Shit, I had a guy, I feel like a dick. I don't even know his name. He came from Arizona. He was spotted at the American Pro. He came up to me and wanted to be part of the meet. So, like, give it your own time for the whole weekend. The spotters and loaders bust their ass. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:04 And then I have all my guys at the gym that transport stuff. We have the door people, you know, just all those, right? So they have to get paid or at least fed, like the door people. They're volunteers, people at the score table. My mom does it. She's a pretty good volunteer, you know. But I'll take care of their dinner, take care of their lunch. So that adds up.
Starting point is 00:30:24 And then the door fee, I do charge $15 typically. here you know but i'll take care of their dinner take care of their lunch so that adds up and then the door fee i do charge 15 typically so i i don't charge any extra for a coach or a handler i had one girl get pretty pissed at me for charging for a coach i'm just all right bitch like you want me to call her come on bitch yeah that's kind of like what do you expect i mean i don't know you so you're still spectating. Like, I get if she was complaining about an additional fee, because like when I first saw it, I was like, but I get it. Like, I. Yeah, where I'm going with it is not from like a I want to make money point of view.
Starting point is 00:30:57 It's like you're putting on a local level meet in Port Charlotte, Florida, out of a CrossFit gym. And your boyfriend's good friend that you're here to come with, he's probably gonna win $5,000. Where, where do we get that from? Like, you know what I mean? So like, we have a lot of people come in through the weekend. And so you add up the registrations, the sponsor money and the door fee, pretty much most of the sponsor money if not all plus some of the registration goes to the lifters that door money is where my gen makes the money so like i pretty
Starting point is 00:31:31 much just act like it's all money that goes in one pool and it just allocates accordingly so yeah all right maybe i i just i've only ever done like two three or three meets yeah it's all i'm sure a couple yeah i i understand scantz was saying he has stopped doing powerlifting meets in ontario for this reason right like i pay 120 my wife and kids pay 15 each to show up i don't have to pay for my handler but it's in the gym all the equipment's already there and the payout like there's no payout and it's kind of like you got 30 lifters at 120 each plus all the like there's and they're not supplying lunch they're not supplying water it's things like they're not paying their guys a lot of stuff either so that's kind of where i was just like is that like a normal thing then i saw that
Starting point is 00:32:21 they were paying for it isn't it's not i feel like just just how i run things i think i have it down and i'll be transparent like i make pretty good money off of running meets like especially my june and my december ones but i also make the money on top of i think the meets i put it on have a really good environment i have really good lifters that come down so i really like how we'll have like the Chad Pensons, the Shane Hollers, like literal legends of the sport, all types of records come down and share the platform with your like
Starting point is 00:32:53 everyday local lifter. And it's a good ass time. Every time you put out a lot of content, we have a company in Florida called zero dark 30. So that's a couple of grand for the weekend. They just shoot pictures for everyone. They make good promotional videos and things like that so a lot of money goes into it too and the return ends up being pretty good as well because well i do run two day meets every time too so it's kind of inflated so two meets back and back but transparency sake like it's not uncommon
Starting point is 00:33:23 for me on a big week meet weekend to walk away with ten thousand dollars in profit for my gym so like but i'm also paying out an additional ten thousand i could do the same thing get the same amount of lifters and not pay out any lifters yeah and i guess i just the other alternative that is i don't want to be in a paid lift payout lift uh meet right now because like i'm an intermediate but i've i've seen the the types like that that attracts like i'm not gonna place when guys are traveling from california to my local gym in hamilton to outlift me to make a thousand dollars like i'm not like i see what's happening i'm not ever gonna do that yeah see i think it's cool like i really like how my meets of course i'm not ever gonna do that yeah see i think it's cool like i really like
Starting point is 00:34:05 how my meets of course i'm biased but i do like how because i own a gym and a lot of my gym members do my meets and i really like how the guys that do come do these the money meets are so cool with everyone you know like they kind of see what powerlifting is really like instead of like the bullshit you see on Instagram all the time. Yeah. So I really like that for them. And really like a lot of the beginner lifters that come out of my gym too. It's like, you know, if those guys didn't come down, they're probably not going to win anyways.
Starting point is 00:34:36 So it's like, yeah. Yeah. Your, your meets are well celebrated by anybody I know that's been in them. Including Laura, who has been on this podcast before you know you saved her she did it she's like USAPL me and it was terrible and then she came into yours and was like wait this can be fun like yeah your meets are well heralded I've been to a few 40 USAPL meets and up until the last one i was at down in miami they've all been like a library like i was a friend of mine eugene um from my gym to orlando to support someone doing it
Starting point is 00:35:12 and we drove three hours he's only been in my meets we walk in and he's like legitimately confused he's still like where what's going on like no music you hear a pin drop um i went to another meet in fort myers with my girlfriend for a guy at my gym i'm speaking about these four times like you know what i'm talking about but we drove there and you could hear the crowd during the uh during the lift like if i was speaking to you while someone's going up to squat you could hear what they're saying oh my god yeah it was a very awful lifter environment so lift hard live easy is not like that at all like my my meets were like a little quiet but the lift hard live easy is loud and like nobody even the warm-up room nobody's like quiet at all like it was i got yelled at by the
Starting point is 00:36:02 guy for standing up and cheering on my friends during deadlifts because i was in his way and i was like buddy don't be in the front row like if you're not here to cheer go sit in the back right so lift hardly easy is a very different beast i wanted to go to that one this year to lift actually actually the american pro when i was thinking about what i wanted to do next i signed up for the ghost clash but i thought it was still a little too close for kind of how my body was and definitely was because my pec fell off and then i think by july i'll go and do that and i think i even asked if like they had a monolith because i don't like walking out squats anymore and that plan ruined i mean i'm thinking about still going over there to hang out because. Oh, yeah. Come hang out. I'm doing sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:45 If you haven't, if you can, if you have the weekend free, dude, even if it's the last minute thing, it's fucking awesome. It is. It's going to be like a four day event. Three days. Three Thursday, Friday, Saturday and some Sunday, Friday, Saturday. No, it's four days. Right. So Thursday is the it sounds like we're doing karaoke.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I got to put a sticker on. Yeah. Pounders and karaoke on Thursday uh tanners on Friday lifting on Saturday and then another party at the gym on Sunday yeah I'm gonna miss the Sunday oh I'm not gonna I I was at the last one we had to leave halfway through I'm not missing I'm flying this time but like so last year I I just attended for fun I didn't compete hey my thumbs up thing um and then this year I'm competing but I don't compete. Hey, my thumbs up thing. And then this year I'm competing, but I don't see it's going to be
Starting point is 00:37:28 much different other than I'm not going to drink as much. I think as a spectator, it would be an awesome. If I was hurt and I had the money, if I was hurt, I would still go. You know what I mean? I know it would be like it's a way to fucking network with like 80 of your buddies.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Yeah. That's all it was. Honestly. Yeah. And I imagine you're way more fun when you're not competing. You have such blinders on. You're a nightmare during competition. Like here I am, a guy that I'm like hosting a podcast with.
Starting point is 00:38:03 And he says two words to me for an entire eight hours because it's like, it's not about my list. I don't want to talk. And he just like stares at the ground, like breathing heavy. And you're like, all right, sorry. Gets in the zone. He gets in his zone. Like, I don't, you know, my numbers are nothing to write home about, but I love them. And I'm there.
Starting point is 00:38:21 I fucking bust my balls to get my five pound PR and I'll fucking keep doing that until i can't do it hey you got an ad read for us there jordan i do let me pull it up all right massonomics from trading cards and memes to a pair of shorts to t-shirts to a whole bunch of other shit to not so great youtube videos to awesome youtube videos all while maintaining the longest standing and most consistent podcast in the industry they do it all after buying from them for years i've still never found a discount code but i don't give a shit because nickel and diming one of the best companies out there is for pussies to the tens and tens of wanganites out there i highly recommend you to head to the mass economics website now and buy a minimum minimum of one. Have a good night.
Starting point is 00:39:06 That was awesome. I love that. Do you understand the Wonganites joke? The reference? That, I mean, obviously I'll play on your name, but like Minonites, Wonganites. Is it like Canaanites? Canaanites, yes. The tens and tens
Starting point is 00:39:21 joke to millions and millions of rock fans. So I threw another pro wrestling joke in there oh i will catch every wrestling reference made for sure oh good okay should we get our guest on the horn kick all the the lookers out yeah i bet ryan's probably in there we should kick his ass out for sure shit is he i should always check for that guy i don't i don't i i i cannot we now it's just three participants i don't i don't have the ability to multitask enough to keep an eye on the participants. All right. Big Jordan.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Is that you? That's me. Welcome. You are live on the Unpaid and Underrated podcast, the podcast where we spell your name wrong in our show notes. And Joey tends to focus on that. As long as it's not J-O-R-D-Y-N. Jordan.
Starting point is 00:40:10 I bet somebody has that name, too. No, a lot of people do. Well, my name's spelled, too, but fuck it. It's 2024. You can't label. So I said, I'm going to call him Jordan through the entire thing, just to rub Keith the wrong way for making that typo. Well, you actually said Zordon, and I wasn't sure if that was a Power Rangers thing.
Starting point is 00:40:32 It absolutely was. That's why I went Zordon to Jordan. Oh my gosh, that's what I thought. Good stuff. All right, so you know what we do here. You listen to a couple episodes. So the first question we usually ask people is what brought you to massonomics how did you find them and then us and and you know what was like the first thing you bought or the first thing that drew you in and made you realize this is where i want to be probably a pretty common answer so like maybe not because i've been on this social media stuff for a while, but the trading cards. So I used to think they were funny.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Then actually one got done on me and I was like, oh shit, it's me. And then the first thing I bought, of course, wore the shorts, definitely the shorts. They didn't last long. They actually ripped on me pretty quick. And that's like. Did you do a chargeback no and then um they just bought another pair that's for the whole crew pretty much i like to support companies that i like with my money so like i'll honest, I don't go on the discord that much. Like I'll pop in every here and there and just read through everything and
Starting point is 00:41:49 catch up. But I just like the fact that every month I can contribute to it. I do the same thing for the table talk. I'd never go in there, but it's just, if people are consistently putting out content, putting out stuff and supporting the sport that i'm so fond of in some capacity i like to give back a little bit and and when you do come into the discord you make sense you know like you you come in you fit the vibe you know you don't come in with any like nobody really does every once in a while somebody comes in and we're just like are you sure you want to be here but like no whenever you come in you hit the jokes you hit the silliness you hit the topic so like
Starting point is 00:42:27 we we like assume you're at least like hovering what do you not hovering um lurking i think would be there yeah like i'll read through like i don't never go in there like i'll probably i probably open up the discord app every like two to four days and go through three channels i haven't read everything and then usually don't type anything but now is the arm is is memes like kind of your go-to to start at or do you kind of read through the other stuff because a lot of it like you have to almost like read some of the other channel stuff to even get like 50 of the memes so it's like i guess uh someone i i'm so in the like, I don't know what it's like to, I guess, to only like look at it like an hour a week or a half hour a week. So I guess how much shit do you actually comprehend sometimes? How much shit do you read?
Starting point is 00:43:13 And you're like, I don't understand that at all. And I thought I was pretty up to, you know, par with all this. I typically get it all. Oh, I don't get something. I'll kind of like figure it out or make an assumption and then refer to it like at a later date gotcha makes sense yeah if i if i miss like two hours i just go well i'm not reading that like i don't unless i'm tagged i rarely backtrack i'm like nope that's too much shit i'll catch up at some point and then i just never catch up i feel like you do that with our group chat too with me you and nate uh yeah you well, because when it's me and you,
Starting point is 00:43:47 like we'll have like two or three things to say to each other, but when it's you and Nate, like it'll be like 14 messages that I haven't looked at and I just go, no, no, I'm not going to do that. Like, unless I'm tagged. Yeah, we're both very compulsive and obsessive. So there's that. So Big Jordan, we're just so everyone knows if, if there's that. So big Jordan, where, just so everyone knows if,
Starting point is 00:44:08 if someone's not following you right now, where, where, where, where would they go to find you? And who are you? And you know, where, where are you at?
Starting point is 00:44:12 Just where are we going to find you at? So Instagram typically is the number one. I'm long swung to spit on my name. W O N G S T W O N G. It's funny. Cause like, that's my email too and we have to say it out loud to people we're like they read it out to me on the phone because i'm like dealing
Starting point is 00:44:31 with some company they're like wong s-t wong training it's me anyway i'm not not making it a more legible uh you legible specifically for the email. No, no, no. Wong Street Wong makes sense to me. Oh, there you go. Wong St. Wong. Yeah, St. St. is street and St.
Starting point is 00:44:57 It was either that or Big Daddy J 6969, so I won't. Yeah, you went with the other one. Well, make sure everyone listens to this go because uh go get big jordan to follow please all right so we know you're from florida we can skip that question um what is one piece of massonomics merch that you missed out on that you wish you could go back in time and buy? A lot of them. The one shirt I don't have,
Starting point is 00:45:29 but maybe it's still on the website, is the blue bench heavy one. Yep, that's one of the few old school ones that's still on there too. A lot of the beer parodies got shit canned on the website at least through some cease and desist bullshit last year so but yeah he's definitely still there it'd be ironic if i um wore that now i mean i see i see you out there grinding man here you can you probably going a little earlier
Starting point is 00:45:56 than you should be on a lot of your weights too from what the doctor subscribed or you kind of right on pace with what the pt and you you know, surgeon wants you doing? Um, honestly, I've had no contact with the surgeon since like my first post-op thing, which is weird to me. Um, but yeah, I've been working with,
Starting point is 00:46:14 uh, Seth Albersworth. He just had the pecter got a surgery and it's working pretty good. Um, he's pretty aggressive on the rehab, especially with himself. And I almost feel like he's using his experience and what he considered maybe mistakes or what worked good to help me. But he's been a big help in this whole process.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Nice. Now, him and his wife, they moved back to Canada recently, right? Or probably a year ago now. But they were in Florida for a long time. Yeah, they lived over in Daytona, which is about four hours from me. Then they moved to Canada. Right now, I wish they lived in Florida. Yeah, you get in-person PT for sure.
Starting point is 00:46:52 That'd be much better. For sure. Stuff. I had one follow back up on the project in Mastodonomics. Essentially, this gets lost in the weeds sometimes, but have you actually listened to the entire masonomics backlog did you ever go back and catch it up from uh where you had initially started like the podcast yeah yeah yeah sorry yeah like so if you listen to like episode like most of us came in at like episode like 150 to 250 give or take did you
Starting point is 00:47:19 ever go back and listen to episode one through you know wherever oh i did not okay so yeah that's there's you know there's there's a select handful of us that have which actually leads me into one actually it might not be in our did you get the hall of fame card in them in the in the mail for as as the as the crew gift no i didn't i think i think my address information is not there so i think i missed the one last year too gotcha so it might have it might have to reach out to tanner on that one but i think on the last podcast this during the live recording he did mention that i think he got three kickbacks from with return addresses and he says he's already reached out to those people so if he hasn't
Starting point is 00:47:57 if he hasn't talked to you then he does not have your current address and as long as you're still an active supporting member i would definitely be like hey tanner i want that because but you you saw it at least right uh he's for people sharing it so yeah if you're still an active supporting member, I would definitely be like, Tanner, I want that. But you saw it at least, right? For people sharing it. So, yeah, as long as you're in the Discord, you definitely should qualify to get that. And, you know, the race for supporting crew at the Hall of Fame. I think there's a lot of us on right at that, you know, 12 to 14 level. But it's going to be a minute or so when Eclipse is the 15, I think.
Starting point is 00:48:26 level but uh it's gonna be a minute or someone eclipses the 15 i think yeah i think that just as an unpaid uh an underrated host i should get a challenge coin by default mostly just because i want to see what the challenge coin looks like now they did mention uh well i guess it'd be more something we can talk about next week but since we're already on the subject uh i remember them saying something the extent of since they do think it's going to be kind of hard for people to get 15, that they might add some more perks to it, you know, more than the more more than the current listed perks, like some other award. Like, you know, I don't know what it's going to be. Some kind of additional kickback, maybe just because even even if I went and listened back to the backlog, that would only put me at 13. went and listened back to the backlog that would only put me at 13 so i would somehow have to attend a crew falls which like come on i can only fly across the country so many times right um what are the other ones i was missing the four years is gonna like get a lot of people like yeah like
Starting point is 00:49:18 i was three like three and a half years like there's you know there's there's things i can't do that just physically or monetarily are not possible so but either way i just want to see a challenge coin but i do think as an unpaid and underrated i should get a challenge coin or a special edition gold um drink spotter okay it's definitely time to dive into the this is your life version of this so we reach out to family members uh i don't know who sent us this but i'm kind of getting the vibe of who sent these like three different people i think and it got all hodgepodge and caught because i was getting stuff from different people at different times so it all just there was no organization to it it's just there it's just you know yep um stuff so the first one i have is ask him if he remembers sitting on the steps of the
Starting point is 00:50:09 pool my mom's grandmother and i asking a very embarrassing question do you want to talk about that yeah look at the fuck so i was like very young and i'm sitting in the pool. How old? Probably I don't know. Based on the story I'm about to tell it's probably 10, 11, maybe 12. Yeah, it's going to be 12 or so I would imagine. Do you guys know what happened? I just read it, yeah. Yeah. I started to get pubes and I was looking at them.
Starting point is 00:50:40 They said I was counting them but I was just looking at them. Counting cubes. Yeah, pretty much. That's exactly it. I don't remember when they told me that they saw me doing that, but I remember that day. I just was like, oh, there's one.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Oh, there's one over there. Oh, fuck, it's the third one. Now it's a whole bunch of them. It was a very, like, I mean, it goes on, fuck, it's like 20, jesus that's almost 30 years ago probably and i was like it is a very weird thing like i don't even i don't know that i remember growing pubes but it was definitely like you didn't have them and then you do i didn't have pubes well okay i was eight and 30 i was almost nine 30 years ago so that's thereabouts the right age a couple years early maybe but yeah that's uh
Starting point is 00:51:25 that's a good one but i think one thing that might not happen in this episode that i always enjoy to see happen is like the guests just we we pull something out of the back catalog that they didn't know we had and they're just look a shock and uh borderline embarrassment i but i don't think i don't think you have that gene in you to be embarrassed so we might not be able to pull that out of you this week i don't think that's me gene in you to be embarrassed. So we might not be able to pull that out of you this week. I don't think I'm jacking off for the first time. Just counting my pubes. Yeah, it's mine and I'll clean it as fast and hard as I want.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Yeah. Nice. Oh, God. All right. What was your first nickname? From your mom. Hemorrhoid. Yeah. Always up her ass.
Starting point is 00:52:12 That's good shit. Not guys i'm not obviously yes i mean yeah i don't know figuratively or west virginia whatever the uh hey fuck you i'm from west virginia you guys have a weird stereotype i can't uh i know well the ironic part about that is I never met anyone that actually fucking practiced incest until I moved to fucking New York State. So that's the ironic part of that. See, I'm half Chinese and I've never eaten a dog or a cat. So we have to deal with those stereotypes sometimes. Good stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:39 I just want to hold on. I like the phrase practice incest. Like it's like it's not abuse and disgusting. It's a practice. There's someone that I know up here through other people. It's just the
Starting point is 00:52:57 people who practice incest. It's just a cousin. It's not like he was fucking his dad or anything. This time. All right. Oh, wow. I don't know how to segue. I was going to say, well, speaking of fucking your dad, you know what? Tell me about this chocolate melting cake. I hear you like so
Starting point is 00:53:18 much. My dad's not black. No, I don't want to say that. I was just I'm usually good at segues and that was more of a I don't have a segue into what you just said so I'm just going to
Starting point is 00:53:33 change the subject no no no no speaking of segues but talking about the gig when my mom and i used to go on cruises all the time she's a teacher so the summer vacations we'd go on a cruise and at dinner there's always like a list of desserts you can have and that's the only one i would get because i don't
Starting point is 00:53:57 like any other type of dessert like key lime pie all typical pies and shit like that i don't like it so i just always stuck with that. Is it the same as like a lava cake? Like I said, I've never heard anything similar to as a melting cake. So it's just like a like a like a bundt cake, which is a shit ton of hot chocolate inside of it. Yeah, it's just a small little thing, chocolate cake.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Honestly, not even that good. It's just out of my options. It was the best. Better than key lime pie, probably so. Oh yeah, fuck key lime pie. Gotcha. Literally, you're only supposed to fuck apple pies i've seen the movie good movie uh what was that on the glaze scale do you know about the glaze scale yet jordan sounds like cum i don't i don't know it does doesn't it um so we have an entire website where our producer has gone and taken all of Keith's IMDB ratings and turned them into the what we call the orange glaze. Because on one of our first episodes, we asked, what would your wrestling name be? And Keith said, orange blaze.
Starting point is 00:55:02 And I said, did you say orange glaze? And that turned into this whole did you say orange glaze and that turned into this whole thing about the orange glaze so if you go to glazesearch.com you can type in a movie and see Keith's rating okay half of it is because everyone thinks that I fucking
Starting point is 00:55:17 rate movies too low oh no yeah you're shit at rating movies it's called my ratings not fucking your ratings so eat a dick like I don't care for some reason we have a website I a dick i'm showing him the bag where you can go to come and you ask about have i seen a certain website i was like yeah no you're the one i said it was of come but yeah but it definitely is a very very funny concept where you can go and see what keith's rating of movies are and then bully keith for rating them bad and instead of a producer uh the crow probably and point break that's like more nostalgia like if i had
Starting point is 00:55:51 to rate those today would they be 10 out of 10s i don't know but they were 10 out of 10s when i was 12 and i'm you know i'm not going to change my opinion on that i guess now the crow stands up yeah that's the trailer for the new one it looks like john wiki but i don't know it'll be a good watch just i'm disappointed his face isn't like the more white and black it's just like it's his face with just like black fucking eyeliner or not like the white foundation it still might be yeah i could have just yeah right like i i've got the original comics and they do look more like the brandon lee crow but then if you go further into the comics the way that he looks it does kind of evolve into that okay right like that first that the guy wrote james o'barr
Starting point is 00:56:32 it was the brandon lee but again like i said it all goes into he kind of looks like the joker to me so again it's kind of weird there was a there was uh i i went into like if you go to the if you went into the comments it was getting fucking roasted. But that's, I mean, that's just the fucking comments on anything. Yeah, they're all dummies. You know, but someone said he was like, he looked like the Florida Man Joker or something. Yeah. But it's Bill Skarsgård. Like, just relax.
Starting point is 00:56:57 He's going to do well. He's incredible in everything he's in. Anyway, that was a fun sidestep. Speaking of orange, orange soda. What's the best brand? Fanta Zero. Yeah? They got Wawa.
Starting point is 00:57:14 They have those red soda machines. I'll always look at a Fanta Zero orange. Sometimes I'll mix it up with the Zero orange and the cherry. But yeah, I don't really like soda, but orange soda? I love orange like soda, but orange soda? I love orange soda. Who loves orange soda?
Starting point is 00:57:30 Kel loves orange soda. You guys don't get the Nickelodeon reference? No. I was going to say Keith loves orange soda. I just love orange in general. You've never seen Keenan and Kel? Oh, no. Oh, I thought it was, was it? Yeah. Yeah, I remember. Fuck i remember everyone else watching this
Starting point is 00:57:46 will understand that reference is that the platypus it's not a platypus is it fuck you uh no can't do that what was the birkin burger when they did like it was like a whole good burger yeah yeah yeah it was in good burger wasn't it like yeah oh yeah i know good burger i think it was a whole bit about about The skinny one likes fucking orange soda Yeah That's what I thought What do we got here Sorry
Starting point is 00:58:13 I'm just drawing a blank here What the fuck I had a thing I wanted to talk about Okay so I'll talk more Home gym stuff For everyone listening You essentially kicked off Opening your home gym stuff. So, you know, for everyone listening, you essentially kicked off a home, you know, opening your home gym during COVID to your buddies and your friends and current clients, I'm guessing, as a personal trainer, probably. Yeah. And then that kind of morphed into you, you know, you're on your what?
Starting point is 00:58:37 You're in your third location now or your second location? Actually, my first location. We just had to redo it once. Oh, okay. I knew there was a hurricane. I could have swore I heard you said you moved once. Okay. Did you just expand it all or anything, or has it been the same square footage the whole time? Okay. Same. Yep. Okay,
Starting point is 00:58:50 cool. What about, so you obviously cater to powerlifting, or are you more like, I mean, are you a barbell trim with... So we're known for the powerlifting, but I would say probably 65 to 70% of my membership do not do any power lifting.
Starting point is 00:59:08 So there's that, but I have like two sides of the gym. So it's two units. There's a hole in the wall, like a literal cutout hole. One side is all like the cardio equipment and the machines and the cables. And the other side is the combo racks, monoliths, um, bellow platforms, dumbbells, things like that. So short answer is we cater to everyone. Nice. The thing we don't have is just like a whole bunch of commercial cardio,
Starting point is 00:59:33 cardio equipment. We just have a couple of salt bikes, a stair master, an elliptical and an air runner and a rower and a ski machine. Gotcha. Yeah. Those are all, you kind of got to cater to, even though, even if you are catering more to barbell, you still got to have a little bit of everything. Yeah. Those are all, you kind of got to cater to,
Starting point is 00:59:45 even though, even if you are catering more to barbell, you still got to have a little bit of everything. Just, you know, everyone's got a little cardio every now and then, I guess like I'm probably not, but you know,
Starting point is 00:59:53 everybody else has to. Yeah. We're expanding in November. So right now I'm in 3,500 square foot feet and we're going to be in 5,700 square feet in November. So it'll be a fun build out. Got to buy a lot more equipment. Actually, my gym right now,
Starting point is 01:00:11 taking out some old equipment that I'm replacing and getting more and storing some away too. Nice. So did you ever, so I'm assuming over the last four years, you became very into just equipment in general, I'd imagine, since you don't want to fill your gym with shit. So have you found any companies that you're like, all right, I support these, like as far as manufacturers and stuff, like I'm going to give these guys all my money or is it just kind of like whatever you can find used? Or on the flip side too, have you had any dealings with someone where fuck them and you don't want anyone to give them in their business because they're just shady shitheads?
Starting point is 01:00:44 No. So a lot of my stuff is used from like Facebook Marketplace. You don't want anyone to give them in their business because they're just shady shitheads. No. So a lot of my stuff is used from like Facebook Marketplace. So in Florida, there's two big, actually three big people that flip equipment a lot. So it's kind of like a hobby. Like I'll go and look at Marketplace all the time. I'm friends with some people on Instagram. So they'll always be selling stuff. I'll always be on the lookout.
Starting point is 01:01:01 I'm friends with some people on Instagram. So they'll always be selling stuff. I'll always be on the lookout. So basically, I just try to find pieces that I think most people would like to have and do that. And when it comes to actually buying equipment from the manufacturer, I only have two, like actual, like not counting the power lifting stuff, two machines. like actual, like not counting the power lifting stuff, two machines. I have the Atlantis pendulum squat and the arsenal incline reloaded fly.
Starting point is 01:01:31 So those two are easy. I mean, the Atlantis one took a while because when you buy a big piece of equipment like that, I think they make it to order, but incline fly came like four days. But yeah, so I have a whole bunch of different brands. When I find something that I think is going to be really good and I don't have room for it, I'll sell one piece, use that money to put towards a new one and just kind of replace it.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Not smart. In an ideal world, is there like a brand or a company that you would say, no, I would fit my gym with this? Just that equipment yeah so my first reaction is no but if i had to from what i've seen of other people's stuff i think atlantis would be the best one i personally think arsenal strength like even though i have a couple pieces of their equipment as a whole i think they're more of like a they're just very popular for some reason but i think a lot of their stuff kind of sucks so yeah like the chest press machines you can't really get it like it's just they're not
Starting point is 01:02:36 all user-friendly um the atlantis stuff a lot of it's adjustable i think it's the mechanics are better from a lot of the way they're built. Like Dr. Mike Isertal, he has a few Atlantis videos on his page. So he seems to think the same thing from what I can tell. And Prime Fitness is a pretty good one as well. But in an ideal world, I would be able to outfit my entire gym with just bits and pieces of every company because they all have pros and cons for different ones. What about barbells specifically? I'm a huge barbell guy. So, you know, what do you, if you had to outfit, you know, or I don't care, like
Starting point is 01:03:15 what are your favorite barbells in the gym? What do you, you know, what do you use at your meets? Yeah, that too. So right now I've been using the Kabuki bar, Texas power bar and Kabuki deadlift bar you don't see a whole lot of Texas power bars is it 29 or the OG
Starting point is 01:03:35 28.5? That's the original ones. That's not do you find that common? Because I've been Dave's XPS or XPC meet is the only time I've ever used it I've used a i've had i've used a texas power bar for the last decade but i've never used one in a meat just because a lot of people don't you know a lot of people bitch about the 28.5 versus the 29 and then it's got a little more whip on it and stuff but uh so for the bench well i guess theoretically well yeah theoretically oh yeah i'm not i'm not benching enough to fucking
Starting point is 01:04:02 give it a whip but i mean in my head it's just like in general that bar but i just uh there's just most people gravitate towards the you know a rogo high or the kabuki power or something so that's that's interesting that and especially too because a lot of people will stick with the same bar brand across all three uh well I'll do that in a world where, so like Texas Power Bars, Florida USPA, they told me that they got a deal with them pretty easy and pretty quick for like 18 bars and like for free, just like as a sponsorship deal. So like if I can get that, I'll probably go to all Texas. Oh yeah. You know what I mean? It's just that's a good deal um because it would help the gym as well and then but the kabuki deadlift bar seems to be a popular one now for like the obvious reasons um so the kabuki squat bar i just kind of ran with it once i prefer the texas bar or tex Texas squat bar on the monoliths, because we don't have the rolling monos and the rolling is so sharp.
Starting point is 01:05:10 It's very hard to move that bar. So it's the answer to the spotters and loaders. So I'll probably go back to Texas squat bar eventually. Gotcha. Yeah. I never thought about that. You know, the whole being too nerly and catching on the, or catching on the, well, catching on the not having rollers that is. So let's get stuff. Are you,
Starting point is 01:05:27 uh, or do you have the OCD, uh, trait that I do and everything has to be on a spreadsheet. Cause I think if I owned a gym that had a hundred grand worth of equipment in it or more, I'd have to have every fucking, at least anything that's worth more than a couple hundred bucks has to be
Starting point is 01:05:38 an itemized number somewhere. I do not. Oh, that would give me anxiety as fuck, man. Didn't i have 17 of these bars and now i've only got one who the fuck took on my bars so with the barbells i actually plan on doing an inventory sometime soon because i need to plan because when i expand i want to make sure i have so like enough squat bars for the model you know what i mean just so there's never one that's like
Starting point is 01:06:06 i don't want anyone to be like i need this bar to being taken so i'll probably always have one or two extra um so that's that it's for the deadlift bars i already so i have three texas deadlift bars one kabuki deadlift bar and an iself fitness deadlift bar remember them from like yeah yeah yeah they disappeared but they had i think that i'm not sure if they got bought by someone else but yeah they were like that was like their power bar their deadlift bar was like always like hey if you want to knock off texas power bar for fucking like 60 of the price go here yeah they had a red deadlift bar and this was before the barbell started being like colored all the time what's that word search to the sea sarah yeah sierra cody
Starting point is 01:06:51 we like to say it wrong here sometimes i say everything um that's why i asked but i was like oh cool red deadlift bar like that'll kind of go with the colors of my gym because it's like black and red and that had such an aggressive mirroring on it people like hated it in the beginning yeah but that's a good bar a little more gym talk and then we can get into some more funny stuff uh i know you're more mono i know you're more of a mono guy but so what do you have for monos versus combos like how many you know you have to have a little bit of both i'd imagine yeah so i have two dynamody monoliths and three er combo racks one row combo rack and i have two texas combo racks and storage that's legit dude you find that the ers are just more likable than the texas or they're just
Starting point is 01:07:42 just definitely more i know they're lighter and more maneuverable so i'm on the hunt for the in the perfect world i would have a combo rack by now in my basement but it's just like i don't want to pay the extra money and give up the extra square footage and i would have to get rid of one of my other squat racks i'm just i'm still on the fence but like in the last couple weeks there's been a texas a er and a state of the ark all come up for sale within like you know a couple hours me, but they all have their own issues. And it's just kind of like, I always like talking, I'll talk combo racks or someone that, you know, especially you literally own three of the ones I'm talking about. So sorry.
Starting point is 01:08:14 I just, yeah. The wire, why did the Texas get segregated to the garage? So the Texas combo racks, I just bought from another gym owner in the area because they were replacing theirs with Valor Fitness, which is like, honestly, I think it's more of like a economy home gym. Yeah, I didn't even think Valor fucking has combo. I didn't even know they had combo racks. Yeah, they're new. So I believe they probably cut some sort of deal with them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:44 That's just an assumption. So I took those. But the thing is I used to have three, and this was my fault. I was an idiot. I bought three Texas squat stands with a drop-in bench, and I just thought that was a combo rack. I couldn't be able to put the arms in and out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:00 I sold those, replaced them with the ER racks. I bought the ER racks because they were a little cheaper. And to me, at the time, their benches were a little less slippery. Okay. So it seems to me from people what I've talked to is the Texas, like there's been like evolution of the bench. Like they used to be really good, and then it would be kind of slippery and shitty. And now I think they're good again.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Okay. So I like the ERX. they used to be really good and they would be kind of slippery and shitty. And now I think they're good again from, okay. So I like the ERX. They're very easy to transport and not as heavy as the Texas racks for sure. Never get a row combo rack. If you ever want to. Yeah. They're too fucking big. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:38 They're not only, they weigh like 800 pounds, but then they're also just like the racks there. There's two fucking wide. So you almost have to tell your lifters to put one arm in or both arms in even though you're not a wide lip uh squatter because you're gonna fucking there's no way you're unracking that 20 kg bar with a fucking eighth inch uh shaft collar very easily so and imagine taking the bench out of that it's yeah that's one thing i find weird too about the rogue combo rack
Starting point is 01:10:06 is it has like that fat pad with it just cool people like it but it's not legal in like any federations and i believe it's legal in the usa pl it is i'm gonna binge a pr on it in two days but yeah it is they definitely have it's it's not that it's's not the Thompson fat pad, but it's Rogue's fat pad, so it's still the super squishy... So you're going to definitely sink into it like a motherfucker, but I don't know. I was surprised USAPL... I mean, it's because they're just so tied with Rogue, I guess,
Starting point is 01:10:35 but I don't know. I find it funny. They kind of use that advantageous bench, and they try to make everything harder for you, but they're using that bench because they probably get paid a shitload of money from Rogue for some sort of so like I find that funny. It's like
Starting point is 01:10:51 people talk shit about the deadlift bars or squat bars or whatever. Not everyone, but like some people like terrorists, you know, we're going to go bench on that and act like, yeah. No, I got you. I got you. Rogue tends to do that and then they they do things like push the strength code of the animal cage um hey how far away from a toilet do you have to stand to
Starting point is 01:11:15 hit it oh i can keep them some far away i know who sent you that one that's like regularly i think our notes specifically say you can essentially piss from 10 feet away and not miss uh how is like and that's like only when you uh at any point or only if you've held it for seven hours because like you know obviously what you know if i don't piss for like three hours it's going to be a lot harder than if i go i maybe have to piss and dribbles out a little bit so like How the fuck can you piss from feet away? I just do. It's a gift.
Starting point is 01:11:50 The piss gift from the piss gods. So like I have to it doesn't have to be an extreme like oh shit I gotta pee really bad. I got a funny pee story I can tell you. Let's do it. So like I have to be pretty uncomfortable to be able to pee that far.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Don't ask me how I discovered I could do that. I just did for some reason. But my pee story is from today. I'm driving home from Legoland. And this sounds weird starting off, you know. So I'm probably about 20 miles away from my house and it's like a back road it's just 15 mile road no gas agent i had to piss so bad my daughter's in the car i'm like so i pull over i go on the side road it's all these farms and shit i turn
Starting point is 01:12:37 open my door and start pissing and i've never done that before and my daughter p like her name is olivia i call her peanut you know it's like daddy why are you pissing why are you going to the bathroom in the grass or peeing in the grass like only dogs do that she's yelling at me so i'm sure she'll tell me to someone soon yeah um i can get put on the sex offender list so where does the word or where does the peanut come from it was again another ironic thing um when she was born she was very tiny just a really small baby and now she's fucking giant she's four years old and wears size seven clothes which means like seven-year-olds wear it i guess yeah so it didn't age well she's a walnut yeah um my girl's name is saga she's two and i keep part of the reason i keep kind of bailing is because she's screaming
Starting point is 01:13:33 in the background she does not want to go to bed and uh i call her squirrel it's just been her nickname from since she started walking right because i used to sing little girl and then i was just like that's weird like calling your girl little girl and then i just moved into little squirrel and i just turned into squirrel and now she just fits that she just chews on everything and climbs everything and falls off everything because squirrels are stupid clumsy dummies so i just thought it was funny like the nicknames we give our kids and how they just stay like they just stay forever until you know they look at you and go i don't want to be called that anymore and you gotta give that up right it's peanut or a little shit for me yeah yeah that one doesn't go to the teachers, though. Oh, fuck the teachers.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Little squirrel. Hey, squirrel. She'll appreciate that if my wife is listening to that and hears it out loud. My wife. My wife. What do you got? What do you got? Like, we are literally looking at all this.
Starting point is 01:14:39 We already did the piss stuff. This is a lot. When did you cut your hair? I heard you used to be an emo skateboard kid so it's never an emo skateboard kid i said long hair like i couldn't tell you one emo band but yeah i used a skateboard all the time and i didn't have long hair and i cut it shit i graduated i think i cut it in high school and i grew it back and then I cut it again and I think I might have grew it back one more time. It wasn't like
Starting point is 01:15:06 super long like this. My hair doesn't grow that way. It just kind of flattened. What is your favorite band right now? I don't have one, man. It sounds weird. I just listen
Starting point is 01:15:24 to what's on the random playlists that play at my gym all the time. From like numerous. So Creed. Creed and Disturbed. Well, definitely not Disturbed. That's one. I can't fucking stand that. I know.
Starting point is 01:15:39 It sounds like he's breathing in while he sings. Yeah, because I don't have a problem with any music. I don't have a favorite music. I don't have a favorite music. I don't have music I hate. It doesn't really bother me. Would you say it all sounds the same? No, I just don't have a preference. Nothing really bothers me.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Didn't land. With the Sickness song, it's so fucking corny and stupid. Yeah, it is. There's a YouTube video, and it's just like, I think I've described it here before, where it's like, Disturbed and their greatest hits. And it's just a guy going, And it's like, never has a band done so much with so little.
Starting point is 01:16:18 And to me, that's how every Disturbed song sounds. Except for like, The Sound of Silence. And maybe one other song but it does it all sounds the same to me i mean i got respect for disturbed great work guys but yeah at the at massonomics gym apparently down with the sickness just plays over and over and over again i'm sure if i didn't hear it all the time i would not be annoyed with it yeah i have serious i put on turbo they have a turbo workout in their app and i'm like all right i'm down and then by the time the fourth disturbed
Starting point is 01:16:51 song comes on i'm like no we're not we're not doing this anymore it'd be like creed limp biscuit shine down disturbed and then like slipknot disturbed and your white zombie disturbed and you're like i can't yeah it's funny at my gym the it's always either loud rap music or i don't even know the um the genre it's it's like the old shit they used to play um like blink 182 like those types of bands in the morning with the girls that play their stuff and then at night it's always like usually like rap music where you have the one girl that puts on like the shine down and create stuff because speakers is a free-for-all i don't really care who goes on it yeah just the butt rock that made me feel so old that he just referred to like blank 182 was like
Starting point is 01:17:39 super old and i'm like that was like it was like my high school time for him but yeah you are old i know we are your fucker. You're still like three months older than me though. You little shit. So there's that. I moisturized. So I want to hear the story about your early entrepreneur days where you conned your dad into buying you some pens. Oh, the gel pens.
Starting point is 01:18:01 I used to at Sam's club. So my parents and grandparents used to always go to Sam's Club. So they used to sell like these little, I guess you'd call them like suitcase looking things full of gel pens. Back then, let's see, that was 25 years ago, maybe a little less. I remember it was $20 or so, $18 to $20 for that whole thing. And for some reason, gel pens were like the thing at my school. And I used to have my, whoever I was with at Sam's Club, buy it for me.
Starting point is 01:18:35 And then I would sell everyone for a dollar. And then I'd run out. And I'd con the other person and buy me another one. And then I'd run out and I'd call the other person and find me another one. And when they run out, so like my mom and dad used to go during the day on Sundays and then my grandparents used to go at night. So I'd make sure I was with them at both times so I can get all the gel pads.
Starting point is 01:18:57 That's funny. No, I know. Has that, uh, you know, that's, uh,
Starting point is 01:19:02 that little business act, act, acclimate kind of stuck with you, you know, obviously you're the business owner now and, you know,'s uh that little business act act acclimate kind of stuck with you you know obviously you're the business owner now and you know uh do you have to have an accept that completely i'm related but i'm assuming as a business owner you have to have like your own llc and all that stuff do you have something set up different separate for the power lifting meter is it all just under the same thing so i actually just did that uh a few weeks like probably a month ago um i used to do it all underneath this
Starting point is 01:19:25 underneath the gym and i spoke to the guy who does the uspa meets he also owns a gym but he does it separate now for like his llc for the uh for his meets because he basically said like because he's big he's a big insurance guy if anything ever happens to your meat you don't want them to be able to come after your gym too no that makes sense for sure yeah i'm always worried about that i so i have a i'm a home gym guy i've got about you know i got a thousand square foot basement and 700 square foot gym three squat racks uh dedicated bench uh dumbbell section deadlift platform etc uh i have anywhere from you know every sunday there's at least one or two people over and then one friday a month i have anywhere from like six to twelve people over so like i've had people come over to my house for
Starting point is 01:20:08 the last decade to work out and like thankfully no one's gotten fucking hurt hurt yet but it's like something and then a lot of times i'll like you know i'll sell something to someone on marketplace and be like they'll they'll be like you know this is a fucking sick gym i was like oh yeah just dm me sometime we'll come over and work out so like i have people there are like 99 percent of people that come over are people that have already have a relationship with but every now and then there's like a complete new person that i don't really know and i've only talked to on instagram like once and but it's like i'm always like fuck this asshole is gonna like break their neck down here and fucking take my house so one of these days i need to do something so about getting some kind of like
Starting point is 01:20:38 waiver or some shit but yeah i'm usually uh the opposite risk adverse. I just go with it. It's probably the best trade at the same time and other revenues. So, yeah. Do you want to jump into a game or whatever? Again, I just I do a bad job sometimes of getting the notes clear, minimized. Again, I do a bad job sometimes of getting the notes clear, minimized. Yeah, no, no, no. It happens. But I do really want to hear about the story the first time you had a mimosa. So it wasn't the first time I had a mimosa. I'm assuming this is a very recent mimosa story.
Starting point is 01:21:17 I think I've had – wait, no. I've never had a mimosa until – yeah, that's right. That's my first mimosa. So I was at breakfast with my girlfriend. This place we've never had a mimosa until, yeah, that's right. That's my first mimosa. So I was at breakfast with my girlfriend. This place we've never been to before. We've always seen it advertised. And they gave free mimosas to people that went to their brunch because it was like a new, they never did brunch before, I think. And I drank one of them.
Starting point is 01:21:42 And then the guy came over and gave me a second one. And he's like, oh, he's trying to be funny. He's like, I don't know how this got here. I'm like, okay, this guy wants to suck my dick. And he might have, I don't know. And then long story short, we get to the car, she's driving, thankfully. And I'm like, fuck, like,
Starting point is 01:21:59 I'm really drunk. And I was just hammered for like two hours of two mimosas. Now, was there a moment of silence involved no there wasn't okay um let's move into fmk then should i tell you well that's up to you if it's a funny story and you're comfortable saying it let's hear it but if not we won't yeah talk about um you know table talk so i was at a powerlifting meet and i the music kept going in and out in and out and you have heard this yeah so yeah i just registered what he was saying yeah yeah it's a good story though music kept going in and out
Starting point is 01:22:42 and i walked outside. And I am walking back inside. And the music goes out. I was like, oh, this again. And I was like, penis. And the music didn't come back on. I was like, fuck. Okay, weird. Went on with my day. Joe Corsi, he's
Starting point is 01:22:59 in Florida. He goes, I don't know who the fuck he is now. He's like this big-ass guy. He speaks very softly. He comes up to don't know what the fuck he was now. He's like this big ass guy. He speaks very softly. He comes up to me and says, Hey Jordan. I'm like, yeah. So, when he yelled penis, that was a moment of silence for like a lifter's girlfriend. Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:23:16 I was like, shit. My bad. I remember hearing that before. It was a great story. I'm glad Joey picked that out because I missed it one time I'm sitting in a pub me and a couple of my friends
Starting point is 01:23:31 it wasn't me that did this fucking embarrassing thing but we all cheers okay and we cheers anal sex because it was funny at the time and my one friend decides to yell I cheers anal sex because it was funny at the time. And my one friend decides to yell, I love anal sex. Right when the music stops.
Starting point is 01:23:54 So the whole pub just turns and stares. And this guy is like probably a little like you, impossible to embarrass embarrass but i've never seen him so sheepish he just like shrunk into his chair and he was like oh no the whole bar just heard me oh i have a love anal sex till the bartender came over with a shot and said cheers anyone fuck him in the ass that night or well i don't i don't know i didn't follow him home wasn't me so i don't think i really followed that followed through on that one. If I was a screamer, I would, like, I mean, I wouldn't be embarrassed if I screamed that. I mean, if I said
Starting point is 01:24:29 I love taking anal, I don't know. I guess either way, it's up to you, but, like, it's not a bad thing. We don't judge here. We don't judge here, but it was just funny that he decided to say that right when everything goes quiet. Obviously not as interesting as when... As Dwayne.
Starting point is 01:24:45 So a woman's fucking silence moment of silence. That's pretty bad. That's great. Yeah. You didn't know. She hasn't come back. She's not mad at you. Not mad at you enough.
Starting point is 01:24:57 Um, one, I have one thing I wanted to, one funny thing that, um, it basically, it's essentially, it,
Starting point is 01:25:03 I would say it's, it's, it's a, it's a poop story. Um, to some extent essentially, I would say it's, it's, it's a poop story to some extent it here in our notes, it says that you hate not being able to take a shower after you take a shit. Is that a thing? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:15 A hundred percent. I mean, I get it. Is that a consistent thing? Cause like, I mean, I think I have those shits like once every couple of weeks where it's like,
Starting point is 01:25:21 Oh, I'm just gonna take a shower. Cause that's, that's bad. But I don't think it's every day. Oh, I hate not being able to take a shower after I shit, man. Like, yeah, it's terrible.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Yeah, another Legoland story. We're at the hotel this morning. Get this man some wet wipes. No, we're in the hotel room, and I already got ready to go for the day. And then I ate their breakfast, which is just like picture like breakfast buffet food,
Starting point is 01:25:51 just on a plate. So yeah, I had to take a poop, taking a shit and peanut wants to go. She's like, I'm ready to go. I'm like, dude,
Starting point is 01:26:00 I'm pooping. And then I had a shower afterwards and she was not happy with me. So that tree hit me today and pissed off my daughter. Would a bidet fix that? I don't know, man. Like, that's, I never used one, but I picture just a water splash in your butt. Like, it's probably not that common. I just like a shower.
Starting point is 01:26:26 No, I get that. I get that part. But also, I get sometimes your family and other people need you the fuck out of the bathroom. So what if a day expedite that, expedite? In theory, yes. But I don't have one of those, so I'm going to use a shower. Yeah. And what's cool about my shower head is it comes off the thing yeah mine too and i can really make sure that my wiping
Starting point is 01:26:51 skills are good yep wait yeah you must save a lot on toilet paper then right you just do the basic wipes and then get out and make sure the rest of the job's done. Okay, let's go FMK. Are you ready for some FMK? Fuck, marry, kill? This is a tough one. Okay, fuck, marry, kill. MMA, powerlifting, or professional wrestling? I was just thinking it's fuck.
Starting point is 01:27:23 Yeah, I thought that was going to be a good one. Let's start with Mary. It's going to be MMA because I watch that every weekend. I like to bet on it. It's going to be a constant in my life. Power lifting.
Starting point is 01:27:40 I've been doing it for 15 years. Probably don't have that many more meets in me, realistically. And it's always going to be a part of my life to some capacity because I own a gym and I coach a lot of lifters. So that's going to be, I guess I'm going to fuck it. So it'll always be around. No, it was kill pro wrestling.
Starting point is 01:28:01 I don't really have an explanation. It's the only one I had left. Yeah, that's what only one I had left. That's what's hard about this game. Sometimes you've got to just I guess. I really like pro wrestling. Do you keep up? It's a lot to keep up. I've got Ross
Starting point is 01:28:16 back out in the pay-per-views. It only gets really good during that whole Wrestlemania season. Are you only watching WWE or are you doing AEW or any of the indies right now just WWE mostly alright yeah but it's just it's a lot to keep up with
Starting point is 01:28:34 it really is and I just like once Bray Wyatt left I don't know if you saw my tattoos they are the fiends right so I got the fiends tattoos once he left I kind of stopped paying attention but now that the rock is back la night is still there like i'm still paying a little attention right i'm mostly just watching highlights i'm not sitting here watching an entire raw and whenever
Starting point is 01:28:57 i try the kids lose their shit so it's like oh it's bedtime buddy and he's like no it's not we're watching wrestling and he's like literally jumping on the couch up and down yelling. So I don't get to watch it a lot. We just went to the Royal Rumble and then the post-Raw two nights after. That was a pretty good time. Yeah. So yeah, that's amazing. It's been good so far.
Starting point is 01:29:22 I don't do a lot of MMA stuff. What do you think about Tyson and Paul? I think it's genius. So everyone's talking about... So I know it's boxing, not MMA, but everyone's like, oh, he's old. Everyone has their own theories on it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:39 But to me, what people are overlooking from the business aspect is this is going to be the first combat sport on Netflix. yeah so i think that's showing what's to come i mean you probably know this wwe raw is going to be on netflix in the fall so what else is next like ufc because they're owned by the same company that owns tkl yep yeah so there's that so what's next for like football basketball like i think the evolution of sports on TV is going to be way different in the next five years. And this is just the beginning. Do you think Tyson and Paul is going to be at work?
Starting point is 01:30:13 No, I don't, I don't think it's ever at work. So like, like, what do you mean? Do you, do you think it's fixed? No, not at all. I was at Jake Paul, Tyron Woodley 2 in Tampa and everyone called that fixed. They gave him the signal. He got punched so fucking hard. You could hear the punch over the crowd
Starting point is 01:30:36 and it didn't show on TV it was him laying down face first for three minutes. It was a hard punch. I personally don't think any of that's fixed um and i'm like a big i don't call myself a conspiracy guy but i always question a lot of things that like are presented to us but like there's no reason to fix the best like because one so many people have to be in on it and like people will blame like las vegas and the gambling odds and stuff like that but they want no matter what like at the end of the day so like one especially
Starting point is 01:31:10 boxing like a boxing fight like that it doesn't get enough like action to really warrant doing something like that and everyone thinks jake paul shit's fixed because it's jake paul like his paper he doesn't sell anything His pay-per-view buys $200,000, $300,000. That's nothing. He makes his money through other revenues. Ultimately, I think if I had to give an opinion, I think all of it's a bit of a work.
Starting point is 01:31:36 I do think that Conor McGregor himself, he's Seth Rollins of MMA. He's over the top. He's a work in general because you are tuning in to watch him get punched out. Like he was Roddy Piper was a good example too,
Starting point is 01:31:52 right? You didn't tune into WrestleMania one to watch Hulk Hogan win. You tuned in to watch him beat Roddy Piper. That's to me, what a bit of a, a bit of a work would be. I do think that Mike tyson and i hope like he's so dangerous and i think that you're saying like the people are saying oh he's old
Starting point is 01:32:13 he can't do this like remember who this motherfucker was yeah he was the best yeah so like i get that but like we're gonna disagree here but the guy is like 57 50 he'll be 58 he's had a hard life i mean like he was already declining in his prime um went down that whole legal drug stuff comes back whatever when i come like he looks good hitting the pads everyone's like oh he's not gonna like lose some youtuber like if he does it's fixed you also have to remember like jake paul and his brother are like very good athletes logan paul is an incredible wrestler yes it's ridiculous how good yeah oh i absolutely and even not just wrestling like his storytelling his moves everything he does he's amazing at it yeah because everything they touch is good like jake paul like in the past i think five or six years he's been into the boxing thing people don't realize that he's had every
Starting point is 01:33:09 resource that he's needed so you take like a genetically gifted person with that type of work ethic and give them top-notch coaching and all that stuff with all the money in the world they're gonna get pretty fucking good even though he's not like some crazy good boxer that's going to be like champ over the main, like the real boxing guys. I can believe that he can give a 58-year-old guy a fight, especially if it gets past like four rounds. I don't disagree, but I also do think, like I'm just a big Mike Tyson fan just having watched his past.
Starting point is 01:33:42 I'm not like a boxing dude or MMA dude, but just having watched like the i'm not like a boxing dude or mma dude but just having watched like the mike tyson biographies and documentaries and watching his old matches like that that guy is dangerous and i still think he has the potential to still be very dangerous yeah i would love to see it but just from like my observations on how these things usually go like doesn't usually go well. Yeah. And I don't think, a lot of people are talking about how it's going to be like an exhibition
Starting point is 01:34:08 and like they're not really going to do anything. I don't think they were going to put an exhibition match with like headgear on at Dallas Cowboys Stadium. That's just, you can't do that. No, that's going to be a fight. And I have been watching Mike Tyson's
Starting point is 01:34:24 pad prep, I guess, is what you mentioned, he does look. He looks good for 57. But again, you know, Jake Paul's 20 something. I hope I'm wrong. It'll be fun. So I guess maybe this will be the first bet ever made on unpaid and underrated. If you show up at Lift Hard, Live Easy, first drinks on, I'll take Tyson, you take Paul. Sure. We did hear you like to gamble a little bit.
Starting point is 01:34:56 Is that more like a cards thing, or you just bet on the fights you go to? I like to bet on pretty much just the fights like i'll fuck around football and stuff like that but that's just like the action junkie in me but i do pretty well like over the course of like a couple like i always like track my stuff by like the year okay you're pretty good on the fights there you go um one thing i think we missed up top uh it's here you're i think your mom said something
Starting point is 01:35:25 the extent of like you got a soft spot for uh you know disabled animals or or animal animals with a handicapped or disability you had a cat that was missing a tail uh it used to i mean i don't it was 20 years ago do you still have a tailless cat i haven't uh yeah so actually um yeah so i had the her name was midnight she she died at like 20 years old okay my mom actually just bought a black cat with no tail oh that's awesome which is very ironic she went to go get a cat and i think they had like a two for one dealer or some shit and then she ended up buying the black cat without a tail. Gotcha. I technically don't have that cat. I didn't pick it out or buy it.
Starting point is 01:36:07 Okay, okay. You didn't do moms. But also when I was little, I wanted hamsters. I went for the one with one eye because I felt bad. No. Well, that's cool. Yeah, I'm a cat guy.
Starting point is 01:36:24 So any kind of cat talk, I always got the touch base on. I'm a cat guy. Any kind of cat talk, I always get the touch base on. I have four cats at one point. Wow. We have two now. I couldn't fucking imagine having three let alone four. We had the four cats. The fourth one died not too long ago.
Starting point is 01:36:41 My mom, she always said, I'm not going to get another cat because i just like die like she can't put it like that and she hadn't bought into more recently and you froze oh he did freeze all right hearkening back to the first couple of episodes oh you just froze like hell keith like you were just i know i did i i was like jordan why aren't you talking i'm like oh fuck it's me that's annoying we was talking cats that has been a month it has been a minute since i had that issue fucking pussy yeah yeah yeah you're a dick what the fuck okay am i here now okay cool
Starting point is 01:37:17 yeah yeah you're here now where do where are we you want to move on to unpaid and underrated uh i'll do i'll do a uh i got we got you can't not do a mount rushmore then we can go under unpaid uh so this might not land if it's an older hobby but uh someone did recommend this for you so mount rushmore uh basically your top four of this topic so mount rushmore for you big jordan uh books every lifter should read books every lifter should read i and and if if if if you don't have it like i don't know someone basically said you were really reading at one point and specifically like fitness books or like strength building books i i don't know if it's if it's not going
Starting point is 01:37:55 to land we'll just move on i'll create another one if it's just if this one yeah if you have something yeah okay so uh mount rush Mount Rushmore WrestleMania headlining matches. Oof. So how do I rate that? So you just take the... If somebody said to you, I only want to watch four WrestleMania headline matches
Starting point is 01:38:17 in my entire life, which four would you tell them to watch? Okay, so I would say we'll go in like, like worse to best, right? No, no,
Starting point is 01:38:29 no. This is just the four best, the four absolute best. WrestleMania 17, obviously still cold in the rock. Hell yeah. Yeah. You can't really beat that one.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Right. Um, cause I really have to really think about that. I might miss one. Let's not even do headliners. Let's just do WrestleMania matches. Matches, okay. Shawn Michaels, Undertaker, retirement match.
Starting point is 01:38:52 Absolutely, yep. Triple H, Undertaker. That was a good one. Yeah, I'll put that one on there. And then let's go something more recent. This is a tough one. There's so many. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:12 And they almost all involve The Undertaker. Let's go on last year. Let's go. I really like this match. Charlotte Flair and Rhea Ripley. Hell yeah. Very good match. Charlotte Flair is such as much as you can say
Starting point is 01:39:25 whatever people want to say about her she's a hell of an athlete she's very good at what she does I do think that the WWE is not using her to her best I think that she has an opportunity to maybe go somewhere else
Starting point is 01:39:42 and build some more notoriety and come back because I think that they are just default to maybe go somewhere else and build some more notoriety and come back. Because I think that they are just defaulting to her being Charlotte Flair. Yeah. And I think that that has made her presentation not as aggressive as it could be. Whereas with Rhea Ripley, they've really leaned into mommy, right? Yeah. And she's been incredible ever since.
Starting point is 01:40:06 She's good. Good girl. I have a quick, somewhat related, not to that. I think it was Kevin recently slid into my DMs and said something, or maybe it was even in our one of the Discord channels, but something to the extent of, should we start giving the guests the Mountmore,
Starting point is 01:40:21 the Rushmore topic prior to, so they can come in prepared and not have to just go off the top of their head. I'm just curious, like, would you have preferred, uh, as a guest to have the topic beforehand? So you could actually spend like 10 minutes kind of like scrolling through and actually like do your research or were you more cool with it? Just being like doing it live. Cool. Okay. I just like the book question. I, if that were like, if i did read fitness books i think that kind of might have got misinterpreted i used to like to read books but i've never really read a lifting book in my life um i probably if that were the case i would
Starting point is 01:40:55 have been able to do that pretty quick i think with the wrestlemania's there's so many yeah 25 years i've been watching it like i know the triple h undertaker one i just threw in there and i'm kind of thinking of a replacement right now but so maybe maybe it wouldn't be the worst thing but that and that match is important is is because that was such a build-up and sean michaels was the referee and the reason that that match was so important is because undertaker and sean michaels walked triple h out because he blew a quad or something during that match and to have two opponents yeah yeah that's amazing to have to to have the opponents like at the time people gotten shit for that but to have the opponents walk each other out when one was injured to the crowd on camera was like unheard of.
Starting point is 01:41:45 Yeah. Right. So even if the match itself, I can't remember a single move. That moment was so important. Um, you know, I'm sad.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Bray Wyatt never had a good WrestleMania moment. Never once. He actually would lost at almost every single WrestleMania he was in. Uh, he's got an autobiography coming out or not an autobiography. He's got a biographical movie coming out too soon. Obviously means a lot to me.
Starting point is 01:42:10 So, yeah. That's the wrestling chat. Unless you've got more you want to go on. I did have one. You had mentioned you saw that live, Jordan, right? Not in Mount Rushmore, but if your favorite or your couple favorite sporting events you've seen
Starting point is 01:42:26 in person. It sounds like you've been to a bunch of cool shit. Best one was definitely two weekends ago. It was the UFC 299 Miami. That was the best card on paper. It was just a great card. It was very good.
Starting point is 01:42:43 There's that one last year. I think it was just a great card. It was very good. There's that one last year. I think it was like April 6th or so, April 7th. Again in Miami. The Israel Adesanya UFC card. Him and Alex Brayo. And then let's go one more. It would be a wrestling one. It would probably be
Starting point is 01:42:59 probably the Monday Night Raw. We just went to the Royal Rumble. The Royal Rumble was cool, but it was just probably been the monday night raw we just went to uh after the royal rumble like the royal rumble was cool but it was just two big matches a few filler matches no commentary or anything obviously because it's live but at the raw it was all like the post pay-per-view stuff they did a lot of the promos i had like third row seats on the floor i got pretty lucky there and then you know just that was pretty cool so that's definitely sounds like one of your favorite pastimes and it's just sporting events live in person so you mean sounds like you go to a couple a month minimum
Starting point is 01:43:35 at that rate yeah a few a year it's like okay okay so just i got when ufc comes kind of have to go to that right because they only come to the state once or twice a year. And then the wrestling, I don't go to them all if they're around here at all, but this past one I really wanted to go to that Royal Rumble because I've always wanted to go to one. So Royal Rumble is my favorite
Starting point is 01:43:58 pay-per-view because it's always where the most surprises happen. This one sucks. Yeah, it did. I was about to say the same thing this is the worst Royal Rumble I think I've ever like when my wife and I first got together she came to my brother's house my brother
Starting point is 01:44:14 has a big like entertainment basement right and I was like I'm going to watch Wrestlemania you're welcome to come with me and she wanted to like fit in with the boys so she's like yeah I'm gonna come and like she's like, yeah, I'm going to come. And like, she saw like,
Starting point is 01:44:28 I would stand up. Right. Like, Oh my God. Like I would like freak out when something cool would happen. Like Kevin Nash came out as diesel. Oh my God. Like that's so cool. And then I could nerd out and mark out and like tell her all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:44:39 And this one, I was just like, yeah, I guess it's all right. All right. Cool. Cool. Booker T.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Great. Right. Like he was there a minute ago and I guess it's all right. All right. Cool. Cool. Booker T. Great. Right. He was there a minute ago and now he's just there again. Pat McAfee actually replacing Brock Lesnar was interesting because I think that was a last minute decision. And we were there and I was telling her, I was like, I was like making all these predictions like this is going to happen. I was convinced Big E was going to come out like shit. And I was like, there's nothing,
Starting point is 01:45:07 there's not one surprise. Not one good swerve. Edge returning tears. Edge was the best. Yeah. Full on. And I, you know what,
Starting point is 01:45:15 when I saw that, um, his wife come out in the women's. Yeah. I was like, do you think he's there? There's no way. There's no way.
Starting point is 01:45:24 And then he came out and like, yeah, absolutely. But this year was probably the worst one. That's kind of sad. And I guess they're just, that's what they're doing now. Multi-billion dollar company can't, the women's was actually better than the men's. I was really curious too. It was like, we're probably throwing everyone off with this wrestling talk, but. Not all of them.
Starting point is 01:45:44 Some of them. Keith is bored as shit, but a lot of the crew is listening. I listen. Obviously, we saw what happened to The Rock and Cody Rhodes. Was this all planned all along?
Starting point is 01:45:56 Did they get that type of reaction? Why have him win the Royal Rumble? I don't think it was planned i think the rock getting uh put into the uh director of tko um they saw an opportunity to make a new storyline yeah and to me it just has a lot of that whole daniel bryan like yeah we don't we don't think cody can we don't think think Cody can handle it so we're
Starting point is 01:46:25 gonna add somebody kind of feels like it but I do kind of think they were like well hold on the rocks back we'd be stupid not to use him because to me it's going so good now yeah like it was like the genius plan all along like like I bought fucking I don't have cable I bought youtube tv so I can watch SmackDown. Yeah. Yeah, I tried to watch SmackDown, like I said, this week, but the kids wouldn't let me. But yeah, like, even I'm trying to tune in again because, like, The Rock's back.
Starting point is 01:46:53 The Rock is from my childhood. I'm in. Yeah, it's funny how they're doing it because, like, he's always been my favorite wrestler. And when they replaced Cody with him, I was like, okay, that kind of sucks. Like, it just didn't work. It didn't go well.
Starting point is 01:47:06 I don't think that was just my opinion though. But, but then they, they kind of made it work. Right. Like now it's going to be day one, day two. Right now. I just think the whole, like what are you going to do? Cody versus Seth again. And then the rock and Roman, like that just That just seemed too easy of
Starting point is 01:47:26 something to go back against. Well, I think the plan is night one is the Bloodline versus Cody and Seth, and then night two is actually Cody versus Roman. Yeah. That's definitely what's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:47:42 I think that's the plan now. So you would say The Rock is your favorite of all time yeah for sure that's where the people's egg roll comes from like that's they're referring to my penis as the people's egg roll that's all I got
Starting point is 01:48:00 oh that's good stuff better than strudel. Alright, Keith. What do you got? Where are we going next? I'm sorry. I've taken over enough with the wrestling chat. Was there anything else before me? It's worse than the metal. If I get into heavy metal too, I'll go off forever.
Starting point is 01:48:20 And it just bores Keith to the fucking bone. No, I can listen. Fuck, there was something I wanted to get back to. Fuck, I don't remember now. So if it comes to me, we'll pull it back up. But yeah, let's go. I'm sure we'll hash some shit out in Unpaid and Underrated. So we're going to go ahead and kick off some Unpaid or Underrated.
Starting point is 01:48:41 You know, it's everyone else's version of Overrated or Underrated, but we're cool. So we named it Unpaid or underrated you know it's everyone else's version of overrated or underrated but we're cool so we named it unpaid or underrated so underrated means you know you like it and unpaid means it sucks because nobody wants to be unpaid so i'll kick off a couple here i'm gonna go with uh sleeping with a pillow case on your pillow or just pillow cases in general maybe there's got to be some some kind of story here yeah no underrated like i no overrated overrated yeah i don't like i don't need a pillowcase oh yeah yeah i've taken off many pillowcases like in my sleep don't eat it that's uh you don't feel the same way about like a fitted sheet you don't feel this you don't sleep on a bare mattress you're not you don't
Starting point is 01:49:23 think i have to sleep on a bare mattress are You're not the guy that sleeps on a bare mattress, are you? No, I need a sheet on a mattress. Okay. You don't do that in a hotel room, do you? No, I don't do that. But I guess the only caveat I would have to be okay with that, I would have to
Starting point is 01:49:39 cut the tags off, though, because the one side having the huge fucking tag would just irk the shit out of me, I think. I flip my pillow around. I'm assuming everyone flips their pillow because the one side having the huge fucking tag would just irk the shit out of me i think because then like if you always flip your i mean i flip my pillow around i'm assuming everyone flips your pillow to the cool side every at least once a night and then like having like feeling the the big ass uh marker the you know the the big tag on it would just uh that would be so distracting i'm having a panic attack thinking about not having a fucking pillow case on my pillow dude okay so i have two pillows i have a flannel and a silk and the silk one is because i sweat at night and i don't want my
Starting point is 01:50:10 pillow to absorb my gross gross sweat and the flannel one is because i live in the country it's fucking cold out here god like yeah balloons sure that's relevant it's so funny what is it what is it about pillowcases that bugs you do you know I have no idea I've just always been like that just bugs you that's fair I'm way too particular about my pillows I guess I don't know I have like a I have a
Starting point is 01:50:36 I have a 25 year old pillow that I still use it's so gross but it is it's the only thing I can sleep on without neck pain like i swear to god is it cradles my neck perfectly i don't care that i've had it since i was fucking 10 years old it sounds like you need a my pillow because that's gross they collect such gross oils and skins for sure i buy a new pillow like once every six months just like as soon as it stops functioning i i literally have like 12 pillows in my bed pretty much just because i like depending if i'm in pain i have
Starting point is 01:51:09 to have like pillows around my feet or like on my side if i sleep on my side i gotta have another pillow it's like i'm a i'm a pillow connoisseur i've got a lot of fucking pillows i'm so old you sound so old right now someone oh who is it oh big big chris fucking called me out on being old the other day i have have the... When I get a text or an alert or anything, my phone fucking flashes and he keeps... He called me a fucking boomer for that. No, you can't. No. You know, phones should not make noise or lights. It doesn't make noise.
Starting point is 01:51:34 It's just the flashing. I do it as like an alternative because if I... My phone vibrates. I'm not going to fucking... I don't have my phone on me when I'm around the house. It's just there. So if I don't see the little flashing lights, I don't know that I got messages. So I don't have my phone on me when I'm around the house. It's just there. So if I don't see the little flashing lights, I don't know that I got messages. So I don't know. Anyway, unpaid or underrated for Big Jordan, I'm going to ask chrome-plated kilo plates.
Starting point is 01:51:54 Overrated. They look great, right? But for the price of them, not needed. Now, is this more of a jab at Alex? or is it uh like i don't know i'm not sure who submitted this because like most kilo plates are painted but then they have the chrome rim right we're not talking about that we're talking about fully chromed out yeah i have them at the gym okay okay yeah like i'm like oh they look cool I want to get them now that I have them. So the worst thing about them is the lack of color. So, like, it's happened a few times.
Starting point is 01:52:30 We have to remind the guys. You misload, right? Yeah. It's like, look at the number. It's 25 kilograms. And someone will always throw a 20 instead of the 25 or 25 instead of the 20. They go down a racket, and they're all the way like this. I see that.
Starting point is 01:52:44 Yeah. But, yeah, I guess they're overrated, but I don't regret having them because they look really... You said that was the Hansu ones, right? Yeah, that's a Canadian company. I almost got some of those because they were so gorgeous. Yeah, they look great.
Starting point is 01:53:01 I think I had the same problem. I was just like, no, I don't like just how uniform they are. Big Matt, who's great. Yeah, I think I had the same problem. I was just like, no, I don't like just how uniform they are. Big Matt, who's not here again. They actually have chrome ones now with colors on the inside.
Starting point is 01:53:17 Really good, but they're an extra $1,500 or so. That's insane. But they're pretty. Joey doesn't want to pay 15 to get no meat let alone 1500 right fuck that all right we we might have to go more than our six we got a lot of topics here but i gotta try to pick at least one more and we'll see if we could do uh some bonus oh fuck i'm gonna ask this one because i know there's a good story with it so i'm gonna go with your
Starting point is 01:53:45 toyota tundra and uh so let me hear about that and then i want to hear the story of what inspired you to buy it okay so toyota tundra i would say is a little bit overrated i mean like i love a truck but i only say it's overrated because because it comes with all these things I don't understand. I have the whole TRD Pro. I don't tow anything. I don't drive off-road. I'll be at the gas station. These guys will come up to me and be like, oh, you got a TRD Pro?
Starting point is 01:54:18 I'm like, fuck yeah, dude. I don't know what it does. It allows you to piss in a ditch and you not get stuck when you pull back on the road right exactly yeah so there's that well yeah like i like the truck i don't like the um the gas mileage and the amount of money it costs to fill up the tank i come from a corolla hybrid um so i switched i bought a truck because i got a car accident driving my cousin's Tundra. It's ironic, I guess. And I feel like if I were driving my Corolla, I would be pretty fucked up.
Starting point is 01:54:55 Maybe not even talking to you. Like, it was a pretty bad accident. But being in the truck kind of saved me from any major injuries. All I got was like a fractured neck or some shit like that. And that was on your way to a meet and that you still like were you just the meet director or were you competing yeah so how was it hosting a meet with a concussion
Starting point is 01:55:15 it was fine it was good from what I remember everything was great yeah blood going down my head and stuff like that they like forced me to go to the hospital which i guess i'm glad i did right because i was supposed to and then but like the whole time i was there i was like i need to go i need to go like what time is it finally i was
Starting point is 01:55:36 able to make it still got there before squats were done there you go well i, I think I'll hand the baton off to Big Joey and see what he's got for you. Okay. So, unpaid or underrated? Alligators. Overrated, I guess? Or unpaid? Yeah. I'm saying the wrong word this whole time.
Starting point is 01:56:00 I'm very scared of alligators. They scare the shit out of me. Does it come up a lot? Like, obviously, in Florida, they're around. Honestly, no. But I've had a reoccurring dream in my life where, like, my pool is, there's an alligator out there. Or I jump in the pool, and there's an alligator. Or I just look out the window, and there's an alligator around my pool.
Starting point is 01:56:23 Like, yeah, I've always been very scared of alligators. I don't really have a reason for it. It's just kind of like everyone has their own fear. But I don't like them. I think I was at the zoo a few months ago and I saw one. And I was like, fuck that. Get me away from that. So if any of our listeners live in Florida, I know there's a couple of you, and you live anywhere close to Jordan,
Starting point is 01:56:45 we'll, we'll pay for you to get a inflatable alligator and put it in this pool when he's not home. And, uh, you know, you just, you just,
Starting point is 01:56:51 you just have to film it for the content for us though. That's all. Actually just on alligator on Facebook. Um, like one of those like city neighborhood groups where it was like, it was, um, like exploded.
Starting point is 01:57:04 And I guess I had like some shit wrong with it. They call it bloated belly or um like exploded i guess i had like a some shit wrong with it they call it bloated belly or something like that his guts were everywhere and then another picture of an alligator eating an alligator so oh yeah no they're terrifying dinosaurs i don't blame you at all for but i don't like i don't have to deal with them up here so like at most i maybe have to worry about like mountain lions and even that's like kinda like kinda really i think alligators don't really fuck with people i just think they're scary animals agreed right i'm sure they prefer to not bother with you but when they do cross your path it's more likely you're gonna be the one that goes yeah you stay over there i'm going to walk around my parents like ironically enough they own a
Starting point is 01:57:49 chinese restaurant originally that's why they moved to florida and there's a big pond canal out back and like to get to the restaurant out back because that's where they drove up it was like a curve and there's no big like curve. It was just a small curve. So like I used to be scared that we just hit that and drive down there. So I six or seven. So like I've always been scared of the things that was always like my worst fear is like missing the turn and hitting the curb and ended up with the alligators in the pond.
Starting point is 01:58:22 That makes sense. So unpaid or underrated rom-com underrated they're all even though they're all universally the same i like them because they never exceed like an hour and 35 minutes and a lot of them are pretty funny i like them did you see the new one uh the the luck of the irish or whatever with lindsey lohan i did not oh it's being universally panned i watched the preview and was like i'm not even gonna suffer through that i haven't even seen any like recent ones i mean so like i used to watch pretty much any genre of movie i would watch in the past and that's when i had more time on my hands but like
Starting point is 01:59:05 it was me at the movies it was whatever but like recently like the only movies you really see now are kind of just released on netflix or whatever you know so i haven't really seen many recent ones but all like the staple ones they're all pretty good they're all pretty funny they all end the same but they're good yeah the luck of the irish or whatever is on netflix yeah but i'm not i'm not gonna sit through it so i did actually watch it i would i mean definitely a rom-com uh it came out in the last couple months i saw uh anyone but you if you just watch that i'm not sure where it's streaming or not right i think it's still actually i think i bootleg downloaded it so it's probably not available. I've seen that. I thought it was pretty funny. It was the boy and the girl have a one-night stand, basically, and then through just miscommunication, they hate each other,
Starting point is 01:59:52 and then it's like their mutual friends are getting married, so then they have to be in the same wedding party in Australia. Yeah, I mean, I would say that's definitely a rom-com genre. That's funny. Yeah, I enjoyed that. It did get an 8 on the Glay scale. I just had to check for everyone. But what's your favorite one? Rom-com?
Starting point is 02:00:14 I fucking tell you, I'd have to... Recently, I'm going to go with that. All time, I'll circle back to me after Joey's next question. Probably P.S. I Love You. That's like a... Does that count as romcom or is that like sad rom yeah
Starting point is 02:00:31 I don't know that I've watched a lot of romcoms I'm a horror guy myself so like I don't the opposite of that the gentleman that was just on Netflix the series top fucking tier I gotta watch watch that. That's the one where the guy inherits some shit or something, right? It's a Guy Ritchie film,
Starting point is 02:00:50 but it's a series based on the Gentleman film that was out. Oh, that's not I'm thinking of a show. No, no, no, it is. You are correct. Okay. The Gentleman is by Guy Ritchie who also had a movie along the same lines.
Starting point is 02:01:06 Alright, get back to me with your rom-com there, Lex. I need to... Unpaid or underrated anchovies? Underrated. Yeah, that one was
Starting point is 02:01:21 a shocker to me. I can't even handle those. I like them with my pizza. The best thing about having them on your pizza is no one wants to share the pizza with you so yeah so like if you gave me anchovies out of a can not a big fan like they're whatever put them in a caesar salad love them put them on a pizza love them no one likes them but that's that's why I put olives on my pizza. Because nobody in the house will touch it. My dad might.
Starting point is 02:01:50 He'll add more olives because he's a weirdo. But nobody in the house will be like, I'm going to eat your olive pizza. Alright, last one for all the marbles. Unpaid or underrated? Joe Sullivan. He is underrated.
Starting point is 02:02:07 So, like, if you've been following me for a while, him and I have gone back and forth in lifting. He has far exceeded me. But we still, I'm still second place to him in the squat. We kind of traded the squat record of the 2021 showdown i say he's underrated because not only is it just like a good lifter but he has my opinion like he's kind of dived into a whole different training methodology methodology with jake benson that's obviously working for him working for brianni working for uh his athletes And what I really like about like his development over the years, that's probably not appreciated enough because people don't probably haven't
Starting point is 02:02:50 been associated with him as long as I have is he was always that like angry, aggressive, like do or die lifter. Now he's like a very intelligent lifter. There's a lot of things that are in like a traditional power lifting sense, like big focus on conditioning, health stuff. Even a lot of what we do is not healthy. There's a lot of healthy stuff he does like implement now. And I believe just based on his performances and numbers over the years,
Starting point is 02:03:21 it's working for him. So I don't really know if there's an unpaid or underrated answer to that, but I feel like just knowing him for so long and despite going and wanting to compete with him for that particular squat record, just seeing the evolution of how he's been as a person, as a
Starting point is 02:03:38 lifter, has been great. I follow up to that. Unpaid or underrated, the breath belt. Oh, here we go go i don't even know anything about it i just know he gets made fun of a lot for it we're just like i mean we don't want anyone to be addicted but stirring shit's always a little bit funny like it's kind of a you know we we do as the other podcast it was jokingly we don't want anyone to really if you really hate someone feel free to say something but no the joke the joke on here has always been oh joe sullivan's mad at somebody yeah right he's always he's always picking a
Starting point is 02:04:09 fight with someone in someone's second comment section and the only reason i brought it up was again because i knew that like for 30 seconds you held the record over him and and i knew that aspect at least because even before that we always had like a little friendly rivalry and it was really blowing up on social media. Like we didn't like each other back at like the 2017, 2016 record breakers. We've always been cool. It's just been kind of like a,
Starting point is 02:04:36 you know, like the whole competitor thing. But like we talk here and there for about a lot of things. He's overall a good dude. He's always mad at stuff. Like there's a lot of the controversy he seems to be a lot of things he's overall a good dude he's always mad at stuff like there's a lot of the controversy he seems to be a part of like whether he wants to be or not but like even if i disagree with stuff that he's like spouting off about i do like how he stands up for whatever he's
Starting point is 02:04:57 like believing in you know yeah like something i'll be like oh jo Joe shut the fuck up but like I mean like it's just even when Brianni was on Masonomics she said something and you could just hear him in the background like I'm telling you and you hear Tanner go oh Joe has an opinion
Starting point is 02:05:20 again like I have no stake in because again like i don't really know who half these people are so i just thought i brought it up because of the uh that 30 seconds that you held the record over him and maybe one day you'll get it back yeah we'll always be grouped together in some sense you know absolutely all right uh so that that's it for Unpaid and Underrated unless you have any that you want to ask there, Keith Bathroom art is kind of relevant to us No, yeah, because you had a whole like people send, we're tagging you
Starting point is 02:05:57 in that for a while Yeah, that was really funny One episode I brought up Jordan, that I was at my local pub. I live in the country and I have two towns kind of like one side and the other side. And both of them have their local pubs. And I go to the one and it is surprisingly one of the best bathrooms I've ever been in. They have like an actual change table for babies in the men's washroom, which you almost
Starting point is 02:06:24 never see right and i mean like a fully stocked like diapers and everything i was like that's really cool man that's really awesome um and they they have the keg urinal like it's a keg with a hole cut out of it because it weren't men and we pee in beer um but then out of nowhere they they have Scarface. They have just a random picture of Scarface on the wall. And I thought, what is it about men's bathrooms that they just do fucking weird artwork in? Why is Scarface in this washroom? This well-stocked, well-built washroom, and then you just have al pacino sitting there looking mad for no reason and then for a while people were sending me their examples of silly bathroom art yeah um and it for some reason that is here in in in your list of unpaid and underrated so i guess unpaid and underrated bathroom art oh um so i don't have a designated male or female bathroom at the gym i just have two bathrooms i should probably do that sometime um i wouldn't worry about it they're both holes in the ground that take p away who the fuck cares and one of them i got on that uh was it timu or
Starting point is 02:07:38 timu timu i think they made fun of it in the super bowl so it's not like asian company just buy cheap shit for them and hopefully not get ripped off so i got two posters one was the picture of um the guy in dumb and dumber taking a shit and then i have the still of willow farrell and it's the other guy's name from step brothers john c reilly yeah john c reilly yeah i don't know why i want to say dan akroyd but um What's the other guy's name from Step Brothers? John C. Reilly. Yeah, John C. Reilly. Yeah. I don't know why I want to say Dan Aykroyd, but... He kind of was the John C. Reilly 30 years ago, I guess. Well, probably even more superior, too, but yeah. And they're pissed off.
Starting point is 02:08:16 You can just see the picture of him looking down. So I just put them in the bathroom. Yeah. Again, just random fucking bathroom art. Like, I just don't understand. Yeah. You must put that on Instagram.
Starting point is 02:08:31 Somebody that probably has heard us talk about it and then wanted us to bring that up. Yeah. Just random Scarface. It says it's a nice built washroom. All the trim is nice. Everything's set up. And you just turn around and there's Scarface for no reason. I just like putting shit up on walls.
Starting point is 02:08:49 That makes sense. Your shower walls though, right? You know, after you take a shit and you're washing it out. Oh yeah, literal shit. It's good stuff. Alright, well I think that concludes Unpaid and Underrated. We can move on. If you have anything for us,
Starting point is 02:09:06 hit us with it. If not, it's a dealer's choice. Do you have anything you want to say? I mean, literally anything. Sometimes people just ask us a random question. Sometimes people have a fucking list. This is anywhere from a 30-second to a fucking 30-minute segment.
Starting point is 02:09:22 Anything you want to know or anything that came up that you wanted to follow up or elaborate on or on our end that is I got a funny one I kind of play with my friends I don't alright so I want you this goes to both of you pick
Starting point is 02:09:36 your mind I'm going to say find a female that you just despise and find extremely ugly. Like someone you can't stand. Let me know when you got them. Am I just picturing this person?
Starting point is 02:09:54 Because I'm not going to let you. Don't say their name. Just picture them. You got one, Joey? No, this will take a minute. Yep, got it. Yep, got it. Alright, so if I walked in with a briefcase and open it up and there's let's not go to seven hundred thousand dollars in cash tax-free i said you have to lick this person's vagina you're two minutes straight would you do it? yep obviously like this is an imaginary world
Starting point is 02:10:28 where I'm single and like where there's no it don't matter the partner's gonna understand I'm not mine she knows how to get rid of the body wait so am I like licking to completion like is this a Tootsie Roll thing
Starting point is 02:10:44 Tootsie Pop thing? Or like... You gotta wake up for two minutes. Skills don't matter. Good. And go ahead, kid. Just act like you're single. Fuck it.
Starting point is 02:10:53 Just go there. Yeah, I... 700 grand to eat and... Well, the hard part is because you kind of set me like... If it was just like... You gotta do it to like a... Like, I go into...
Starting point is 02:11:03 Go into two minutes. Yeah, but like, I've seen some of the most it to like a like i go into yeah but like i've seen some of the most disgusting human beings in the world yeah but what could you do with 700 grand right now go to buy a combo rack like honey honey this is for the kids yeah i'm sure i would that would yeah as long as i'm single i I guess. Whatever. I would smell the smell. I can fucking smell it from here. Jesus Christ. You don't have the smell of this stranger. I can imagine.
Starting point is 02:11:32 Like, no. Like, hold on. Like, what if this stranger smells absolutely wonderful? Not the people. I'm imagining something like... Like Bea Arthur? Like, are you picturing, like... I go into, like, borderline condemned apartments that people
Starting point is 02:11:45 are living in every day to like provide a service so i'm just imagining some like section eight scumbag that like can't take care of themselves and it's just like biohazard shit um does he get dental dam can he have dental dam no no oh god no yeah no stipulation no dental dam for you buddy play this shit all the time i don't know why it always happens but a lot of situations like that it's like the whole what would you rather do game so like your instagram promotional clip i want you to play this would you eat a gross ass pussy from someone you hate for two minutes for $700,000? So like the problem is.
Starting point is 02:12:28 Download the podcast. It took a second for me to think of it. And the problem is the person I hate, I hate ideologically. But she is a very attractive woman. Must not be Hillary Clinton. Nope. But that didn't even come to my mind. What the fuck? So like, like yeah ideologically
Starting point is 02:12:46 despise this person but like he's a physically attractive woman so like it wouldn't be that hard i wouldn't be either not physically attractive in my heads yeah yeah i i don't i don't tend to lean that direction is such a good number too because that's like it's life-changing for like five years ten years but well it's life changing for like five years, 10 years. But well, it was, it's basically,
Starting point is 02:13:08 basically my wife and I couldn't work. Like I could, I could not work for seven years. I don't want to do that. Go back to school. But like, that's not like if it's a seven, 7 million,
Starting point is 02:13:17 I'd fucking stick my whole head up there. You know what I mean? Like, but $700,000 is just a good number. Cause it's like, it's, it's, it's enough to really,
Starting point is 02:13:24 really, really, really like be impactful but not so much to have a stigma like oh yeah i cheated on my wife for the rest of the year no i can't do that you could probably eliminate pretty much any major bills with seven hundred thousand dollars regardless and probably be fine the rest of your life if you really plan to i think he's just living off the interest if you just fucking put it all in the fucking a high yield uh or played it you know some see now you're really thinking about it okay see also like
Starting point is 02:13:58 how many times can I do this? Going back to the will, yeah. Like, again, ideologically don't like her, but I got blindfolds and earfolds. Like, once every, like, year do I have to go and, like, pleasure this person and get $700,000? Because, like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:21 Just one time. Oh. Still, yeah. How much pleasure are you providing over there, uh me it wouldn't need two minutes two minutes what's what's the ratio like if this exact post question to your buddies what's the ratio of answers you so i have one guy adam he always acts like it's a no but i guarantee you it's a yes my friend eugene he will do it for 20 pounds on his squat yeah i do it for a fucking oh yeah how much that's i like that better like
Starting point is 02:14:59 how many pounds to my total would i have to could i add like i would honestly take that over 700 like if i could have a 2 000 pound total i would take a 2 000 pound total which i mean that's like i'm doubling my total basically like that would double double my total i would i would double my total for this thing i couldn't i couldn't even dream of a second ago. I love powerlifting, but I'd take $700,000 over a number of dollars. Oh, I know. I know. But it's-
Starting point is 02:15:29 Even though, like if you told me the same scenario and it was like, just make sure you bench a PR again. Like for me, you're going to get close to it. Like, ah, I'm licking that pussy. At the same time. How has your recovery been on that? How long ago did you tear it? At American Pro.
Starting point is 02:15:49 So the 28th of October. Got it repaired on the 16th of November. So I think we're about 17 weeks post-op. Okay. And what's your next year look like? Do you have a plan? I mean, you didn't even fucking talk to your surgeon. And you're working with Seth.
Starting point is 02:16:04 So what's Seth want from you in the next six months to a plan? Do you, I mean, you see you didn't even fucking talk to your surgeon and you're working with Seth. So what's, what's Seth want from you in the next like six months to a year? We haven't really talked about that. Uh, we kind of go just week by week and my goal, my, my goal and plan is to compete in my own meet in December. So I'll,
Starting point is 02:16:19 like a year, a year from injury, give or take, or a little over a year. Hell yeah. That'll be ideal. I mean, it's in my hometown uh get to live with my friends we'll have to like face like the stress of traveling and all that i haven't done like a local type meet in a very long time and just have a good time so plan doing that if that goes the plan i'll probably do one of the big ones in 2025 and let's go from
Starting point is 02:16:47 there and by that you mean the the lift hard live had lift hard live easy classic uh 3.0 that'll happen in 2025 i'm assuming that's what you're talking about right honestly but the timing of that the summer yeah probably because it goes a little too soon after december and i've a lot of the people for my gym now are doing that meet this year. So I'm glad I'm not competing. I'm assuming I'll have the same amount next year. So it's good not to have that extra stress. Well, yeah, I think I don't want to put the cart before the horse,
Starting point is 02:17:19 but it would be awesome to see you out there at some point. And like you said, if you have any opportunity, if there's any chance you can make it out this summer dude fucking do your best to get there it'll be a blast you won't regret it but i think we're all about ready to fall asleep so i think it's time to bring us in for a landing if everyone else is good yeah not all of us had lego land all day i think jordan has to piss but he was just gonna whip his dick out and piss from here because you know he's got that 10-foot range there. Got it all out on the road.
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Starting point is 02:18:28 and my Meats page, Showcase Strength Events. Well, we appreciate you coming on. And jwong6969 on Grindr. Nice, nice. So the double 69, I mean, that's like the one wasn't enough. Well, it was
Starting point is 02:18:43 just, yeah, fucking beat me to it. Alright. Well, Big Matt, maybe next week. Until then, we'll see you guys next Tuesday.

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