Unpaid And Underrated - 049 : Dad I’d Like To Follow

Episode Date: April 16, 2024

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Kris from Belt Fed Stength. They dive right into great topics like orange juice, Nate's sack, call outs vs. call ins, beards, zelda, gummies, home gym con and bubble gum. Links Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @beltfedstrength (https://www.instagram.com/beltfedstrength/) or online at beltfedstrength.com (https://www.beltfedstrength.com/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Kris.

Three, two, one. See, I think you're just setting me up on that. That's not like a real thing, is it? You just want me to clap for the camera? No, that is what we do. No, it sends an audio spike to Nate so that he knows when we started. And now this is all in the podcast. Yeah, we're just going to do it live. welcome to the unpaid and underrated uh podcast this is episode 1371 of the unpaid and underrated

podcast a podcast by crew for crew i'm one of your hosts big keith joined as always by my partner in crime here big joey hello there and've got a special guest this week, Big Chris from BeltFed. BeltFed, not fad. It is not a fad. It is fed, I believe. It may be a fad. We'll see. Well, hopefully you stick around long enough to let us determine that.

Yeah, that was a fun intro. I hope we, like I say, we leave that in and let it roll. What are you drinking over this week, Chris? A boring fresca. I'm not a... We don't have a very good selection of sparkling waters here in East Tennessee. It's not really our thing,

I don't think. It's more moonshine and Mountain Dew. I had to go with the fresca. I was going to bring out a Mountain Dew. I had this mountain do sitting in the cupboard it's like a flaming hot mountain dew but after having it's disgusting and it's the worst but after having the hot sauce on my on my dinner i was like i'm not adding more hot sauce to this grumbling stomach yeah i was gonna i was gonna ask if that would have been a

good idea on top of the dinner. No, it was definitely not. So I'm actually drinking the Skittles drink to start tonight. It's awful. It's awful. But I love it. It's so it's pure sugar. Is this from the original order or batch? Would you have to buy like a six pack or something?

Or have you re-bought it? Oh, I went and got some more. Okay. Because like I said the last time. Well, it's like 82% of your daily sugar. So like every sip is a nightmare. But at the same time, I didn't want to dive right into beer after having a nap at 7.30 p.m. Yeah.

I almost grabbed a beer on the way there. There's some clinical issues if you do something like that. Yeah. I almost did grab a beer just so I could use Damager's koozie because I couldn't find my regular two koozies. But I just ended up just getting a bubbly the orange cream one and I'm rocking out the strong and silly Masonomics

impossible to get the can out of koozie. We do actually have a local drink. Also, I'm sorry for the amount of times I'm going to cough. These allergies in this area of the world are legendary. We got a drink called Doctor Enough.

It's spelled E-N-U-F. And it's bottled here in town. It's the Tri-Cities Beverage Company. And if you were to take a multivitamin and just smash the piss out of it and mix it with some pond water, that's pretty much what it tastes like. But it's super popular. That's the closest thing you can have to a regional sparkling drink. I like it, though. It's good. To get back to the Fresca, I think I haven't had those in probably 20 years.

It's like right up there with ginger ale and Sprite or not even close. I'm trying to remember what Fresca is. It's like if Sprite was not even close? I'm trying to remember what Fresca is. It's like if Sprite was made by hippies, maybe. Okay, okay. That's fair, I guess. I do remember. Less than 1% juice, it says. Okay, yeah.

Well, the juice is all the calories, right? Speaking of the juice, speaking of the juice, that's where it's at. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah he's dead now oh well oh well no anyway yeah so moving on that is the thing that happened i don't you know i don't know how we can cover it without having an opinion so we'll look at that one lie he's a great um um sports card

collector i understand he's very into memorabilia i like my one of my lasting memories is one of the naked gun ones though where he's like underneath the truck trying to repair it while it's moving i think and like just gets oil all over himself while the vehicle's moving he's like he's on a uh as tanner would like to call what did what did tanner call the creeper the other day on the podcast because he oh man i can't remember maybe he just couldn't think of the name crawler anyway crawler yeah yeah so for for tanner you know oj was on a crawler but for everyone else oj was on a creeper underneath like i want to say a moving vehicle and then he just got completely covered in oil and it was like just it progressively got worse and worse that was one of the naked guns that he was in that i vaguely remember as a kid was it he was supposed to be

the terminator though wasn't he maybe i mean yeah there there was an arnie role that oj was supposed to be cast as and i want to say it was the Terminator and somebody interfered and was like, no, he's not badass enough. And that's how Arnold got the role. Should have been Kindergarten Cop. That would have been a good one. Yeah, yeah. I'm fairly certain it was one of the big ones, though.

It was either Conan or the Terminator. That would have ruined a generation. What shirt you guys got on today? I'm wearing my feral DILF one because I had to go shopping and I thought to myself, people should know that I'm a DILF. A dad I'd like to follow.

It's an Instagram shirt. Yeah, follow. That's the F that we're all thinking of. These shirts got banned in the UK. Deadlift Till I'm Dead can't sell any of the MILF or DILF shirts in the UK because they're labeled as hate speech. Wouldn't it be like love speech?

I don't know. That's fucking wild. They can throw the word cunt around there like it's nobody's business. But you put DILF on a that's that's taking it too far no under what gives you the ride uh so you just want to tell that we are we're not a video podcast chris if you want to tell the listeners what you're rocking out

oh so i just showing them my boobs just i didn't do anything yeah i mean it got me a little hard but other than that i don't know yeah i'm wearing the uh nice rack shirts reminds me of my skivvy shirts in the marine corps that fits quite nicely better than it did back then for sure nice i got the uh mesonomics uh was it 70 on the seven year anniversary podcast shirt that's a good player it does this does one of the this one it like it has no x it's such a small print i don't know i think it actually now that i'm looking at it too it's like the massonomics is actually not printed it's the black outline around massonomics so there's less actual graphic they're using an outline to make the graphic so there's less tugging and like shrinkage

essentially on the shirt so yeah good one i one. I enjoy this shirt. It fit well. It fits well. It fits well. This one fits. But they're all the same blank. Yeah. Oh, I enjoyed that. It was some good. I enjoyed the Tanner coming out of the Tanner in the pool meme. And I mean, I think I

was outdone by a lot of other people, but I had the one that was something to the extent of, you know, Tanner shirtless saying it was the same blank oh that was uh anybody get a chance to watch any of the youtube videos uh basically i think there was one we were just talking about genetics and i think that was literally just like a two-minute segment of the podcast so that one really wasn't anything new for us but the uh the tommy holm jim one came out today at uh 4 35 ish i think so there definitely was a little discrepancy between the alert on discord and then

the uh when the video dropped so that kind of had some people chalk one in the discord well that's i was sitting on youtube waiting to watch that right like i had just got home i was sitting there and then that's what i ended up watching conan o'brien on hot ones yeah i remember and he went if you don't watch hot ones and at least watch this one because it's pure comedy like he goes wild and starts like drinking the hot sauce going like when does this get hot and that's actually why i ended up with three why i ended up with reaper pepper tacos because i was like well, Conan made me kind of want something really hot. The influencer was influenced? Yeah.

I was eating it and I was like, yeah, that could be hotter. The next one I'm not going to do Reaper or Ghost again, but then my stomach was like, dude, this is the worst idea you've ever had. So now I'm having a beer. Yeah, I'm way behind on YouTube shit too. This Home Gym Con stuff's got us pretty tore up.

What is Home Gym Con? I've never heard of it. I only heard of it a couple days ago. Seems like it's going to be a big clusterfuck. With Bells of Steel backing out, nothing's going to go

right. They're there. They, they, they felt the wrath of the home gym community and, you know, got their shit together. You know,

we're going to be out in force. And they got there. Yeah. That's why I want to get a video. We had a very spirited leader in that assault on there. I need to get a video with Kavon, kind of like the Tanner and Omar video, where they just shook hands for fucking seven minutes straight

and just kind of buried the hatchet. I'll have to try to do that with Kavon, maybe. All right. But yeah, no. Big ups to Tanner for changing the, the name and the discord. It was crew cast for so long. And then we got these series of new people,

uh, welcome to all the new crew who I just think don't know what's going on over on this side of the podcast table. So, um, you know, that's when, uh, when Keith said,

I think we should change it to unpaid and underrated. And thus we did. Yep. Yeah. I've been thinking about it for a minute and i think i've even messaged the group a couple times and i was just like i just didn't want i don't know it wasn't like i don't know i just was like uh i guess gotta i don't i don't like bugging tommy and tanner for shit to half the time so it's just like they're already go out of their way to do so much for us it's like i don't want to put more on their plate but i'm like all right it's like 30 seconds to change the name probably i think they'll be okay with it so yeah and i think it'll help and basically i think it's like just name a little

bit of better name recognition for us there so like i said joey said you gotta get a new guy in there that you know i don't know anything we can do to get a couple more followers and you know get a couple more podcasts out of this and try to make this last four or five years instead of three years i'll be happy yeah Yeah. Clarity is key. So tired. I'm so confused. I just give up. All right.

Should we rate? Uh, what was last week? Oh, is it the call in episode? Yeah. Call out, call in whichever. Cause I,

I always call it a call out because they're the ones like a call in would be if they gave their phone number and he just took calls all night. But I mean, I guess it's, I don't know. It's more, it's not a call in episode, but yes, they call it a call in would be if they gave their phone number and he just took calls all night. But I mean, I guess it's, I don't know. It's more, it's not a call in episode, but yes,

they call it a call in episode. Yeah. There you go. Cool. That's probably, that's more accurate. Shut up, joy.

Yeah. So that was today's semantics. Actually. Yeah. Actually. That's actually, to be fair, one of my favorite episodes and i remember

as i was listening all i could think is these are all people we've interviewed this is all people i hung out with last year at the at the lift hard live easy and i got so excited for july just the more that like i heard people's voices and the jokes big uh big nate mo calling us right like he threw up us out there that was awesome and i was just thinking like god i can't wait to see all you fuckers in july now that i know you better right sorry steve you're gonna have to call me joey this time you can't uh you can't call me keith nobody will buy it this time so yeah i don't think there's gonna be too many people that don't know who we are uh this this go around except maybe maybe some local gym goers. But other than that, I think I think we've made our presence known or over the year and definitely with last year. So I'm looking forward to it immensely. So my reading, what do you think about the episode? Yeah, definitely. You know, good times. I will say that somebody that we were chatting with recently said that I get a bit dissociative when we talk about home gym equipment i will say i also got very kind of static like white noise when

they were talking about basketball to no end that that could have just been oh yeah yeah in my know it like gone there's i was out um so with that i'm gonna give it um five straight to voicemails oh yeah there was so many of those for sure uh that was yeah that was that's like an ongoing thing too it's like a bit of someone tallied it up there'd be as many missed calls as there was people that actually got uh on and they did i like they didn't really uh do they they didn't give people a lot of opportunity to call back either like usually like because i think i i missed it a couple years ago because um on my phone goes on to do not disturb like 8 30 and then as soon as that goes like you don't get a phone your phone will not ring even if you're like on it uh it just goes right to voicemail so i'm curious how many people that was the situation how many people just have the block unknown caller thing going on i

don't know but uh yeah i always enjoy that when it's just missed call missed call missed call it's kind of funny but overall uh i was so tired towards the end of that because i think i stayed up to almost midnight and i think they ended up going until like 12 30 well 11 30 their time 12 30 my time and i was like i can't fucking do those boys i gotta get up i gotta be up in a few hours like i gotta go to bed but uh you know i will uh all in all good episode always enjoy it i think there was at least a handful of guys that got you know um in the hall of fame because of that or at least one step closer so that's cool glad they did that so i will go ahead and give it a five

massonomics gym ipod touches i'm trying to i was trying to think of something witty and funny to change it to, but I'm going to go with Masonomics GMI pod touches. Five of them. Well, I don't know if you noticed this, but now that Tommy and Tanner brought it up, I've been hearing One Step Closer a lot more often just in regular life. So, Tanner, you're going to need that clip.

I don't know. It was a big one. Chris, you want to rate last week's episode did you get through it so it was i enjoyed it it was uh i had to watch it in like i'm sorry listen in like 15 minute increments as i was between running machines and beating stuff to death here with mallets and punches uh i was kind of upset it was like it was exciting who's gonna answer and who's not gonna answer is this person gonna get stiffed again or is this going to be the worst thing that ever happens to them? They miss this one phone call and something. I kept playing out these scenarios in my mind. They missed the first one and then they die some sort of tragic but comedic death trying to get to the phone the second time and still miss it. And that's how they go down it was it was definitely a good uh mental exercise for me a good break from the leather oh there was one guy i forgot who it was freedom

strength maybe freedom yeah no passion yeah yeah i was hoping he would answer equipment there we go because there's two companies with very similar names and yeah one of them the other one makes the sandbags and i always came back yeah i'm like uh what the hell which which how do you pronounce yours again yeah he seems like an interesting dude i was hoping he would answer i would give it for sure five call back to ring back to him shit i messed that up those early 2000s things you can change your oh yeah absolutely good stuff Somebody was following the conversation today. I'm with Hannah on this. My phone has not made noise in years.

And if it does, I get so irate. But again, from having cell phones for the past, however, 12, 20, 22 years, I was part of that. We paid extra money for ringtones. And you 22 years i was part of that like we paid extra money for ringtones and yeah and and like you download them from the carrier website and now i'm just like don't you dare make a noise

i will smash you to pieces if you interrupt my thoughts even if i'm staring at it if I'm staring at it, if I'm staring at it. Yeah. And it makes noise. Yeah, I'm still mad. I'm still mad. So do not disturb as soon as I get onto my home Wi-Fi. Is that ignore under the collar things real? I think you can do it in settings. Yeah. Well, I think it just sends it right to voicemail.

Yeah. So then if they're not going to go to the way to send the voicemail. But I'm curious if it would because if i would hope that if it does leave a voicemail that it would show up in the missed call log though right but you know i think i think it goes right to missed call and the voicemail doesn't so then you can still do a call back of it because if not because if it just blocks it blocks you'd never be able to call them back you wouldn't have the number but i know that is a setting but i get too many you know i get random calls i actually do need to answer periodically that i can't do that i i'm sorry voicemail don't don't leave me a voicemail i've in fact um when i was at the arnold nate was trying to find me right and i had service at the arnold where nobody else did and he left me a voicemail.

And I get the notification and I immediately text him and go, I'm not listening to that. I'm at the Strength Co. booth. Like, don't. I'm going to delete that before I even fucking play it. I'm not listening to that. I don't care how important it is. So, yeah, do not leave me a voicemail.

Send me a text. It is 2024. I have a couple save voicemails that I actually, I need to couple of save voicemails that actually I need to like figure out. Like I need to like the hard download. I'm going to think I got a couple from my mom that it's like, fuck my mom's like in her mid sixties. I want to, I'd like to have that voicemail for the rest of my life.

And, uh, I've got a couple of meeting meaningful ones from my wife from like 10 years ago that I think have transferred over on phones. So, but other than that, yeah, I fucking just read me the transcript and then delete. I don't even listen to them. Like, no matter how bad the transcript is, I'm like, I think I know what they're talking about. I'll call them back or I'll text them back.

I don't need to actually listen to that voice. Yeah, I'm the same. I've got plenty of them saved. But that was in the before times when I actually enjoyed listening to them. And now I don't care who it is. It's getting deleted. Immediately. Immediately getting deleted immediately immediately getting deleted i have gotten to a i wouldn't i don't know if it's a bad bad habit or not but like

i juggle a few different instagram accounts and i'm bad about just not opening messages if i kind of know what it's going to be about and i'm not in a headspace to deal with that right now uh like a lot of times like if i'm like getting show notes for people, it's like, if I know that's what that is, like, I'm not looking at that until like I recorded this week's episode. Like, so I send out all the,

the preliminary messages that I'm like, I'm not going to respond to it for like a week potentially. And then if it's just like something that if I'm on social media to like relax my brain and like de-stress, like I can't open messages that I know are going to be work. So I know sometimes I might leave people like unread for a while, but it's just like, I got to do what's good for me mental health wise. So if anyone's sitting in my inbox ignored at the moment, I'm sorry. I'll get to you as soon as I can. Yeah. Thank you for validating me with that. Uh, I'm horrible. Like, I'm not

sure how we're still in business. People get, it'll get buried. If it gets buried past that first screen, good luck like you might as well just show up at the house if there was something important i'm not hard to find but i cannot keep up with messages at all yeah well you got like you know like six thousand followers or something or eight thousand something like that so i couldn't imagine like that would be like my that'd be like time seven like end up being a fucking business owner people are actually asking you you probably get 20 questions a day about fucking like, just send an email.

I know a lot of people like really push, just, just email me only. Don't, don't, don't DM me about shit like this. Send an email. But then again,

you're pushing, you're turning away business. Cause so many fucking people just won't even email today. Cause this, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's rough. It's a, yeah. I thought putting orders through website only in the bio would work no it doesn't work people are still trying to shit in the dms and and then i thought making a personal account would would make some sort of difference and then maybe a weird angle wednesday, that shit just made it all worse. Now everything just gets thrown to the wayside. Yeah, I can feel that. Speaking of some things going to the wayside, I don't know if that was a bad segue, but

I just got home after being on the road for a couple of times. It was a really bad segue. What words I thought they meant by the time I said it, I was like, that's not accurate. Speaking of segues, and then move on to the next thing. I thought they meant by the time I said it. I was like, no, that's not accurate. Just speak in a segways and then move on to the next thing. Yeah.

You actually have to... I was in Watertown all week, Joey, Watertown, working and... Agreed to disagree. I was able to check out a new public gym up there because I've been working in that place on and off for 10 years, for anywhere from a few nights to a couple weeks or you know the last decade

uh and there's always just been like a YMCA just a shitty YMCA you go there you try to bench press five o'clock there's fucking 12 dudes bench pressing you know it's just impossible so there was a powerlifting gym that opened up maybe a couple years ago that I've been following on Instagram just because we have some mutuals and you know if there's a gym in western New York I probably know what it is for where it is so I was able to hit that up uh literally got there i think at like four o'clock there was me and like two other people and like a i don't know like a 2000 ish square foot setup a couple squat racks combo rack a couple uh bench presses maybe eight total pieces of equipment you know so very niche powerlifting gym uh got a workout on the rogue combo rack with some

uh calibrated plates so i had to fucking do kilo math and i was like i think i'm doing 227 ish if because it's a 20 it's a 45 pound bar plus this one point 1.25 kilo or 100 and 102.5 kilos plus i don't fucking know but i'm pretty sure it ended up being 227 and then uh had a good time there uh just you know it's nice using a combo rack i don't i really only hardly ever get to use that and meet sort of in the warm-up room so it's kind of fun but uh just a very little like niche thing uh very small they had some funny gym signs it was basically like if the gym is burning down call 9-1-1 if the shitter is clogged call this number it was just funny like they were uh you know just you could tell the guy was just kind of like a no no bullshit

gym owner just so just kind of had some like pretty like stern yet funny signs on all over the place uh but all in all that was fun uh i don't get to that was the first time i'm able to train at that particular place so i don't know i've been lucky when I do have to go to commercial gyms I usually find decent ones but you know you gotta go where you gotta go with what's available so that was about it that was my I think I've exhausted my killing time aspect here so I'll kick it back to Joey if he's got anything now let's jump into an ad read here for our number one sponsor.

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podcast about nothing but endless confusing inside jokes and a cavalcade Of colloquial euphemisms Well done buddy Very nice That was good stuff There's so many The dad jokes and the colloquialisms And I put it in the discord And So like here's the story

I was looking for an energy drink Because I know that I usually buy four at a time When I go And I was looking for an energy drink because I know that I usually buy four at a time when I go. And I was like, what the hell? I thought I bought four three days ago, so that should leave me with one today. And then I said out loud to nobody, oh, yeah, I drank the highfalutin one the day I bought it because it had more caffeine than the other ones. And then no irony, I said highfalutin and meant it. And I'm in the car driving to work and I went, did I fucking say highfalutin to myself?

You sure did. Like, who am I? And yeah, so apparently I just listened to too many dad jokes and American people talk. Because yeah, that just came out of my mouth like it was natural is that even a word i don't think i've ever heard of that word in my life highfalutin is that like what you do at band camp when you're it's definitely a little bit of a hillbilly term that's we we say it a lot around here in the appalachian yeah it's uh it's what you would refer i guess we would call it ostentatious

up here in our Yankee speak. I know that word. Fancy or conspicuously wealthy. Uppity. Uppity. There we go. Yeah.

We won't touch that all right so let's get our guest on the horn after we've had all the bullshit talk made you spit out your drink a bit there pick all these lucky looks out kick look you lose and uh see if yeah all right uh big chris is that you

i think i'm told all right well welcome you're you're live on unpaid and underrated um the podcast about a podcast so like obviously you you're well known in here but let's check let's talk about how you got here what brought you to massonomics a long and winding road as paul mccartney would say um you know i i've been in the hang on real big costs um i've been looking for a place to land for a long time uh which is a real stupid way of putting it but there's a whole lot of clicks in the uh the lifting community in every community

known to man and they all seem to not really be my kind of people when i started competing in strongman you know a lot of those on the very low amateur level those those folks are super nice super supportive really great um once you start to get out of that if it's somebody's like second or third comp they they tend to have changed a little bit and now they're going to war with the weights and that kind of shit. That's, that's not my, it's not my bag.

So, uh, I, I stumbled upon the podcast a while back and seemed like a, well, the joke I made earlier was, you know, a cult like following,

but it's in a good sense, you know, a good group of people gathered together for decent reasons who aren't full of themselves, who don't take themselves too seriously. And I think every time I've been asked to describe who we are as a business, the two of us, that's it. We're real-ass people. We don't take ourselves seriously. We're not here to make a shit ton of money or anything else.

We just want to be good to each other and have a good time because there's a whole lot of other shit that you can't avoid. That's the exact opposite of that. So why make it hard on yourself? So did you accidentally find Mastanomics or were you recruited by some nefarious conversion recruitment person? Was I groomed? Are you asking? Oh God. Am I a groomer?

I think I'm still being groomed. Groomed anyone? Oh God. I feel like I'm being groomed every day. I mean, I don't really want to stop. So just whatever, whatever I need to keep going. I, you know, I met Keith Keith at Home Gym Con last year. I met Karp at the Music City Fittings in Nashville. Seemed like weird enough, but not too weird kind of dudes.

My kind of people. That's a good way to describe it. Harmlessly weird. I'd keep an eye on you, but, like, you're probably safer out of my kids. Yeah. Safe adjacent. Safe adjacent. Well, this took a turn quick. This is getting us banned on YouTube. Wow.

All right. So, where are you from? I am born and bred. There i go with that breeding thing again uh grooming i mean i've been raised uh east tennessee i lived in born in john city lived here most of my life except when i was in the marine corps and a few years i lived in richmond virginia i'm pretty proud of my appalachian roots and not in the not in the way that a lot of people who were here say that who are from here say that. Not in the same sense. It gets kind of weird around here with that.

But it's a beautiful place. It's like a black hole. You can leave it, but it'll suck you right back in for a number of reasons. Been a lot of pretty places too, but I don't think any place can top this. You're in the foothills of the Smokies. That's the oldest mountain range in the world absolutely right that's why it's so fucking haunted yep yeah that's another reason i said the spirits won't let me leave yeah no i've never been down there but i know my my

parents uh like in all their they're like in a big cousin group there's like 40 of them from like their generation of all their cousins and everything they go down to the to that mountain range every couple years for like a big cabin retreat thing and stuff just because you know it's close enough to west virginia to what's you know it's a manageable drive and it's just like you know nice pretty i guess yeah it's a beautiful drive that part of the southern part of west virginia and you know part of the foothills of the aplats there that there. That's I think it's like four hours away. It's that's beautiful up there, too. A little different, though.

Yeah. Yeah. It's every every state's got their own little things and everything is just regional. It's crazy. You drive a couple hours and just a completely different world. And we kind of get experience. That's what's cool about this episode, this podcast every couple weeks or every literally every week for the most part we're talking to someone from a completely different place and you know inevitably talk a little bit about where

they're from and like just like local delicacies and just random shit it just comes up through conversation so that's kind of i feel like i know so much more about the country uh and in the health the fucking world in some cases from some of the guys we've had on. It was just fucking pretty cool. Yeah, just general conversation. I think that's what, not to take too serious of a term, but I think that's what a lot of what is missing from most things today is people taking five damn seconds to realize that somebody else is a human and have a conversation, not worry about making a point.

Well, well, if you want to have to, if you wanted to have more conversations with people and you wanted people to flood that, you know, completely empty DM box of yours, uh,

where are they going to find you on Instagram? What's your handle? What's your name? Uh, discord name, all that. Like basically where can people find, uh,

Chris with a, if you want to be ghosted, uh, you want to be left on read, then you can find me anytime you want at Belt Fed Strength on Instagram. It's Belt Fed Strength everywhere. But Instagram is where we're most active. And then the wife's on there, too. She's the other half of the company. It used to be.

I don't even remember what it used to be. But somebody asked her to change it or offered her something to show now shit that's gonna sound really weird when it comes out there was a joke was made let's put it that way uh for her there was a transaction there yeah transactional nature this i used to be the police i'm not anymore so i can talk about it now um hers is built-fed muscle mommy. She's the real brains behind all this. The real talent.

I don't know if I'd say the brains. I hope she doesn't listen to this later. Well, if she's like my wife, she'll never listen. Right. My wife listens every week. I know. In fact, I was trying to watch one of my weekly shows and she put on our podcast but it accidentally went through the apple tv so i'm trying to watch our show i'm

trying to watch my show and then suddenly i hear our intro music and i'm scared because i was watching something completely different i was like what the hell so wait a minute that's us and then yeah wait a minute oh yeah us. She's messing around over there. She's actually pretty involved. She's got some projects she's working on. I think you're already aware of some of them, Keith. It's pretty amazing, actually. I'll fund whatever she does.

Nice. You assigned her the project of making the Massanomics and Crewcast Wikipedia database. That should really be a thing. project of making the uh massonomics and crewcast wikipedia database so if you know that should really be a thing that should there should be several it's interesting you bring that up there was one was there a pd though or was it something else it wasn't it was a wiki it was a well like yeah it was an open source version of a wiki yeah and we ended up just letting it we ended up

letting it expire because like it's so much work to constantly add this kind of stuff. So, um, you know, I think that the closest thing to a wiki we have is go listen to the table talk episode. And that would probably give you the most insight into everything going on.

Um, but no, we actually did have a wiki in it and I forget who was running it. It might've been Kevin. I'm not sure. It was one of the, it was one of the OGs, maybe Eddie.

And then just like, we were slowly updating it and then we couldn't anymore. It would just, nobody could keep up with it. Yeah. That's a task. Yeah. I can barely keep up with like our spreadsheet of just like our guest and

like episode title. I couldn't imagine like adding lore to that and happened to like type like, Oh, that just sounds like work. I'm good. Every week you're adding lore to that and having to type. Every week, Tanner mentions something and you're like, okay, now we've got to add this because we know it's going to be a thing. And then it became this in the Discord and then it became this on Unpaid and Underrated.

Yeah, that's... You're definitely getting your $3 a month worth right now. I just suggest everyone just you know go ahead and listen to our backlog and then listen to their backlog and then you you know and read the backlog of the discord and look could you imagine looking at every massonomics post like could you like scroll back to like 2015 and just consume every single post because that's that's that's 365 times two times like eight or nine ten that's so much

fucking content yeah oh my god and then you got to read the comments just in case you miss oh yeah brian right for content yeah brian yep and you gotta look at shit they were tagged into because like everything that they're tagged in could be relevant oh god there's so much media that is in our sphere that it's just you know i don't know how i don't know how someone new can come in and like ever catch up like not to like everyone join massonomics and become crew but like fuck it's gonna take you a minute to catch up yeah i'd conservatively estimated it's like two months worth of, uh, of immersing yourself in the universe. And maybe you'll feel like you can relate to a 30% of it by then, but it's still worth it.

And it changes. It's so fluid anyway. Like, I think you could pick up and just kind of run with it either way. You just, you just don't do anything for 24 hours and then come back and trust me, we've already moved on to the next topic. Yeah.

Like if you, if you're overwhelmed, just go, yeah, I'll give them a minute and then we'll be onto the next thing've already moved on to the next topic. If you're overwhelmed, just go, yeah, I'll give them a minute and then we'll be on to the next thing every time. Don't worry about it. That doesn't make sense. The only thing you're really going to miss out on is the callbacks and the hearkens, which the longer you hear, the more of those you get. But yeah, you're right. It doesn't keep

you from getting what's relevant in the 17 chats currently. Well, hello, boys. keep you from getting like what's relevant and like the 17 chats currently well hello boys whoa who's that it's big Nate oh wow shocking slid right in there I didn't even see him coming in you might call me the undertaker

that's a reference to WrestleMania recently he appeared and then quickly all disappear but before I do that I have a very special message for Joey and Keith Joey and Keith check under your chairs what

uh oh would you look at that is that my sack below you there's a sack under there. Sorry, Chris. We're getting hijacked here. That's still good. Wild card. This is where I

pick up you and chokeslam you or something like that. I'm trying to make wrestling references for Joey. It's not working. Just do whatever we're going to do anyway. Open the package. All anyway. Open the freaking package. Alright. Open my sack.

Please deplete my sack. This is my favorite thing in the world. Oh my god. What am I going to do with this? Love it. It's going on my bed in my car. I wish I had three. Is it? So it's a... Oh man. It's more relevant now i think it's a

pillow well that's what's because i'm pretty sure it would have been ordered before the the fucking the the the the pillow versus pallo talk as of later pretty hot so so joey and i both got pillows from nate i got the seductive joey laying on a bed with his finger in his mouth uh pose and joey got uh the famous keith head the up the nose selfie picture that is good stuff it is a legitimate like you know i don't know like legitimate pillow and it's yeah that's great joey's is very phallic joey's couldn't be more phallic shaped if it wanted i was gonna put that don't put it in your butt that's a bit small that's a dick pillow don't put it in your butt you can't see where his other hand but that is so funny that is because i can say i can honestly say that this

little picture that one's that i have run with this of who i think it was one of the davids was the first person to use this and put it on another picture and then it was like every picture in the discord somebody would find a way to add this to that picture yep and tanner's done it a few times too which i get a kick out of even oh yeah absolutely and throwing it in the uh hannah putting it up on the on the eclipse was that did me in that did me in no on the camera when you posted that's that stupid Yeah. I'm this old with the limewire. She put your face over the porn person. Ah, classic.

Yeah, so the night that we were all messing around, I think you guys were recording at that point, but Joey had sent the seductive picture of him in front of the check for some reason. I don't remember what the context was competition, but then we, Oh, Oh,

I don't know. We were just compiling photos of it. It was first like me and Joey laying in bed from the, the secret picture that only exists amongst the crew. Um, and then, uh, Keith got in there

and then eventually someone Photoshopped Keith's head into the strength coat plate that I was laying with. And someone said, I want a pillow of Keith's head. And I was going to the bed and I was like, that was just repeating in my head. I want a pillow of Keith's head. And I was like, can't you get pillows made that are shaped to like a png

and i was like i gotta look and i i went i found like the first website and i was like all right i gotta send this to joey immediately and i was like i gotta send something to keith and i was like i don't know if the right answer is to send keith a pillow of his own head or if to set or if it's better to send him a pillow of jo Joey and I decided it'd be better to send you guys different ones because I thought it would be funny but yeah so now we have custom underpaid and underrated pillows or pillows whatever

you want them to be Keith can keep it and sleep on it for the next 50 years and just accumulate so many gross microbiomes of mold and disgust I'm going die with that pillow it's not you're gonna die because of that pillow keith it's not good for you it's very bad for you to do that it's just not good for your health it just is not i came on here also to tell you get rid of it it is not good there's mold and just bad things in that pillow it's not good you need to get rid of

it you'll feel better trust me i used to be You need to get rid of it. You'll feel better. Trust me. I used to be like you. I got rid of all the old pillows. I felt way better. Trust me. Trust me. But anywho.

All right. I'm going to play my exit music and I guess I'll see myself out. Enjoy your pillows. Thanks, Chris. Sorry I didn't get you a pillow. But the other story to these pillows is uh keith has been out of town all week and he said that unless it came on monday he would not get to open it and joey's came last week and i was beside myself because it delivered on tuesday and keith said hey i'm coming home on

thursday and i've never been more excited in my life. Uh, and so if I would have known it would arrive today, cause I probably just would have sent everyone pillows, but, um, here we are. We'll get you on the next trip. Okay. He'll have that for the next work trip too.

So that's, yeah. Keith, I want you to take him. I don't know. It'll be, it'll go over well. My room has to be like,

is that a, uh, is that a uh is that a is that a little joy in your pocket are you happy to see me yeah nice nice couldn't be more phallic love it good well can you imagine working in that factory the amount of well those are like the small ones you can get like full-size pillows. I was looking at the sizing, but those were the only affordable ones that came from China. The site looked legit. And then I got the shipping notification. And I was like, oh, this will take forever. That was like a month ago that we were doing those memes.

And which made it impossible for me to just like not say anything about it to keith and joy and the worst part is every time i text them about it i'd almost say your pillows are almost there and i was like oh shoot package package your package is almost there it was so hard for me not to say it and give it up but all right okay bye both of our see you buddy good job well that was uh big sorry sorry chris no no i'm glad i got to witness this uh spectacle of love and affection here that tight neck guys yeah i probably i talked to you guys as much as i talked to my wife yeah okay um so what's your hall of fame status how many checks you got on there did you get a Hall of Fame card?

I've not looked at it since I got it in the mail. I feel like a piece of shit. But it's sitting on the shipping desk in the workshop for me to check off. And I'm pretty sure it's only like three. So I'm... You definitely got one. You're on the main podcast tonight, so you got that one. Yep.

Oh, Keith froze. There he goes. He's back. There we go. And my internet is shit tonight. It was prime time because I had backed away to burp off the microphone, and you froze. That was a nice little... That was a ghost pepper slash Skittles drink and now Miller Lite burp. So if you're wondering, my office smells amazing.

Excessive. So Chris, I guess we'll get a lot of questions about BeltFed. So, I mean, it's so in-depth really as far as just, well, when did BeltFed start? So technically, I guess right at a little over four years ago, when I left the sheriff's office, I didn't know what I was going to do. Like I said, I've been looking for a place to land for a long time. I decided I was going to start competing, so I needed a belt. I'd only used gym belts before that.

gym belts before that and my father-in-law has had a little well it's not really little uh leather business for i guess the past like near 30 years now he makes mainly wallets and really fancy alligator bags and stuff like that he made some stuff for coach for a while it's pretty wild you see all this high fashion shit and to know that some of it was made in sulfur springs tennessee in in the middle of nowhere um and that's the company coach uh not uh coach carp right yes not the not the tennessee that's just that's our other this is clarifying which coach we're talking about right uh i guess burberry no that's not. I don't know. I'm not good at this high fashion stuff. Where was I? Oh, so I needed a belt. My training partner also needed a new belt.

And nobody believes me when I say this, but I had absolutely no idea who that P word was. So I did and I didn't. I had no idea. I was not. I've never been like real big when I was when I was a cop. I wasn't in these big like sheepdog companies and stuff like that. Like that stuff kind of makes my stomach hurt. I don't think you should. If something's going to be your identity, it doesn't need to be a fucking meme.

I got some real hot takes about that stuff you probably don't want to get into. But I didn't know any of the popular guys other than like the classic Arnold and Kaz and all that stuff. I didn't know any of like the popular guys other than like the classic, you know, Arnold and Kaz and all that stuff. I didn't know any of the popular companies or anything like that. So I Googled, where do I get a belt for a big fat dude? It was like a hundred bucks. And I was like,

there's no, absolutely not. I can't, I can't do that. It's my first bell fast forward four years. And I'm charging 200 now for, for people's first bill but uh i hit up my father and i was like hey do you think you could help me make one of these belts

and he was like yeah sure uh it's kind of odd trying to make something this wide and this thick that's what she said uh but i'll give you a hand so we made two uh had to go to tractor supply to find the hardware for this damn thing. Because neither of us, even though he'd been in the leather business for 30 years, had no idea where to get four inch buckles. So I took two buckles off of a saddle cinch that goes underneath the horse. It was like this big, ugly D-ring thing. It was not conducive to a good belt at all, but we made it work. Did our first competition in it. And my wife got laid off of her 17 year job at United Healthcare. So we were like,

well, shit, what do we do now? I just made a belt. We've got a little time. We can figure this out. Like I've made a few more and they seem to be not terribly received. So let's see if we can make them and sell a few and she's fairly artistic so we thought we'd try to decorate a few and here we are now four years later i still have no idea how this has happened i got some ideas but i don't i don't think uh any of them are correct i think it just kind of fell into place i think uh saying fairly artistic might be an understatement. She's, she does.

She's pretty much, she is like the, the brains behind all the artwork, right? You're, you're, you're the meat and potato guy. And she does all the fancy drawings and like,

Hey, literally hand carved. Now, does she ever like, do you ever come back behind like a stencil and like kind of carve it out or she does everything herself by hand? So the only part of that that i do is i'll do outlines sometimes um if it's like a normal text belt somebody wants a

word or two in there i will we'll just print that off and cover it in tape so it's nice and crisp and then i'll do the outlines of that i'm gonna pass it off to her which she says is a big help but i think she's just trying to make me feel good and then she does all the fancy letter carving and tooling after that nice so you're a man that can work some stencils that's good very good yeah don't mark it for me i don't feel bad about not knowing uh who all the big names are all the big companies are because um believe me when i say i get it um in fact when you guys are kind of like are you listening to instagram stories i i wasn't even following you so that's actually what i was doing was i was like i was like i gotta follow like a third of our guests until like the podcast so yeah so that's

kind of what i was doing and it's not on purpose it's just like it's because he like keith does all the chatting through the uh through the page so i don't actually sometimes talk to people until discord or here and it's again goes back to if you if you're listening to this you're following me fuck no that's not true the influx of crew we're like like 440 or some shit now so i don't know half of them oh fuck that's probably fair i don't know half of them um but no that's awesome uh dude that's how i feel about that shit i don't want uh i don't ever want to go out you know aside from like doing the little giveaways gluck and stuff like that when you you're basically trawling for followers um i don't i don't want anybody to follow or interact or buy or anything like that because other people have done it if that makes

sense like i don't i don't want to be man this i wish i thought about this a little more because i'm going to sound real hipster right now but i don't want to be like mainstream i don't want to be commercial there we go that's a good way to put it I don't want to be like mainstream. I don't want to be commercial. There we go. That's a good way to put it. I don't want to be corporate. I want, if you, if you've come to see the stupid shit we put on Instagram or me, uh, flaunting Randy's ass all over the place, then I want you to be there. Cause you want to be there. Not because we dragged you there through some kind of trickery or whatever else.

Do you want to be a eternal mom and pop and not sell out, essentially, is what you're getting at. Just to put it to the TLDR. I was born poor and I'll die that way and I'm perfectly happy with it. I feel that in my soul. So

did you end up keeping your first belt? Is it hanging up on a wall somewhere? Is it like a keepsake? It's locked away in an ammo can, you know, cause built fed strength. Oh yeah. So we can actually get into that. Like,

I don't think I actually think I got that on one of your other podcasts. I didn't like, if people aren't familiar, your, your military, well, we have to touch on your military career to kind of get to why the name is relevant and actually funny.

Cause people probably don't actually get it. If you want to explain explain that one i'm kind of crushed by that uh i shouldn't have been shouldn't be now but i still am i thought it was a really clever name but i guess most most folks don't understand that uh a machine gun is a belt fed weapon as opposed to a magazine fed weapon or any other ammunition delivery methods for firearms. So I thought it was, I'm sure you can tell by my, my, my synomics ad read,

I like alliteration and funds and things like that. I thought I was being really clever. It's a belt and it's, I don't know, but nobody gets it. Nobody who wasn't in some branch of the military or was a gun fan, I guess. I don't want to say gun nut. Doesn't get it.

I feel like that's probably one of my biggest failures in life. I'll carry that to the grave. I think it's definitely very clever. I guess since you don't really have like like if your logo was a fucking like art you know was a huge rifle you know was it like like the the large gun that you ran in the military like that would make more sense but like then you'd i don't know like i think it's i i remember listening to it only that was one of the gge podcasts probably and i was like oh i get it that makes sense you know it was and it is witty and good but it's kind of one of

those like you have to know seven levels of like crisp before you can actually get the joke i'm like ah but either way belt fed in general like people could just be like oh they're like belt and they're fat like me haha that's like belt fat like that's i mean and that's fine too if people correlate it like that it's like okay cool that's like, that's witty on its own aspect. Yeah, well, I think it works out on its own. I went through a few iterations of, I guess, logos. I don't have very many pictures of the time I spent in Iraq. A couple times I went for various reasons.

But I've got one that one of my buddies took right before we were rolling out into Fallujah. And it's me sitting behind a.50 cal. I look 12 years old. And I'm sitting in this half-moon shield. This was 2004, towards the end of 2004, when we were still getting real shitty gear. The war hadn't really caught up with itself. Let's put it that way. And I had the biggest smile on my face, and I remember it vividly.

I thought about using that as a logo. Maybe that would kind of tie in with the belt-fed part a little better. We had somebody draw a machine gun for us once, and that didn't really work out. And then I was scrolling through Instagram and found a picture similar to the one that we've got now that a lady named Tricia Kibler drew. She's an artist in Oregon, I think. And it was a circus strongman. And I was just, I fell in love with it.

So I asked her if she would redraw it a little bit and put some linked ammunition around the dude's waist and add some Marine Corps tattoos to him and that was that was our logo so now we have a logo that is absolutely not fitted for any t-shirts or anything because it's hand-drawn and ink and watercolor and can't be digitized worth a shit so uh we use the black and white one for that. I'm still pretty proud of it. He didn't pull off the actual inside joke kind of thing I was going for.

Well, we dig it. I didn't realize it was only four years. That's crazy. That's like straight up 2020. You were a COVID company then essentially. Yep. Yeah, COVID took her job. That's what brought it on. That makes sense. That makes sense. You guys still are you're a brick and mortar Yeah, Kobe took her job. That's what brought it on. That makes sense.

You guys still are... You're a brick and mortar, as everyone likes to say. Brick and mortar, brick and mortar. But you're a brick and mortar at your own fucking address. You're not brick and mortar at a standalone. You're still doing this in your garage, your basement, your fucking living room, your spare bedrooms. You are all spread out throughout your house, I believe. We are, absolutely.

We started off with one little room. And it was perfect i don't want to say it's perfectly fine because it was still cramped in the pain and i used to be at work work all the time but it's now it then spread to two rooms and then it kind of got downsized to one and a half because i got a little more crafty with the storage and then it spread back to two. And now it is three, three rooms. And we only have three bedrooms. So you can do the math. We don't have any like extra fucking rooms in my neighborhood. You got bedrooms and a couple others.

It's untenable as it is now. And where I'm at right now, if you're listening, you can't see this, but all that leather in the background, that's where we share a little corner of the father-in-law's shop for certain things. A couple pieces of machinery we cannot fit inside the house, but it's pretty tight, man.

Is that at least a close commute for you or is it the other side of town or something? It's tastefully long, so you have a little bit to enjoy the outside since you don't ever fucking get to see it because you're at work and at home at the same time all the time it's only about 15 minutes though it seems like wherever you are around here you're 15 minutes from everywhere so it's not it's not too bad painting ass toting all this stuff though packing all if you got to stamp something we've got a

clicker press down here my daughter calls it the ton machine it's a great big hydraulic press that we'll use to stamp the logo stamps in and things like that and when you've got like our a wholesale order of you know 100 belts and you gotta pack them some bitches up in the car in the volkswagen tiguan and then drag them into the shop and stamp them and put them back in the car and then go all the way back to the town not fun it's good good cardio though have you um do you guys have like a do you know how long it takes to make a belt like start to finish like as far as like how many steps and like when you get an order and you just look at it you're like oh that's that's four hours of time yeah is it all you make them in such batches that it's kind of like, it's hard to equate that. So you've got to raise the cow, right?

Then you've got to skin it and tan it. Yep. Yep. Yeah. So like, that's going to add a bunch of time for sure. You got to feed it. So that's, you're talking a solid 18 months of feeding it before it's large enough to harvest.

Yeah. Otherwise you're just going to get, you know, real soft glove leather. We're not, we're not trying to make soft belts around here. But no, I would say every three, four weeks, I get back in my head. Well, no, I never leave my head. I wish I could. But I start recalculating how long certain steps are taking. Maybe it's part of my OCD, if that's what I've got.

But we've screwed ourselves because nothing we make is standard. Everything is custom, even if it's just the size. So I can get down, I think the blackout, or the simplest belt we make, is probably the most straightforward thing. But it all depends on what's going on the belt. I would say generally you're looking at just labor, not counting dry time, things like that. You're looking at probably you're about right four or five hours for a belt. And that's including we can run down the steps real quick.

So we come out of. Again, I keep forgetting that nobody's going to be seeing this i was going to grab a giant piece of leather but we start with either sides or double shoulders which is the front third of the cow or a whole side of the cow we'll cut the blank from that everything's at least two layers they don't make leather big enough to make a 10 millimeter belt without putting some other layer on it. So those will get trimmed down to four inches. They'll get glued together and then you'll sand the edges of that to make them nice and smooth. Depending on what you're going to do to them later will determine what method you use to sand or straighten them.

If you're going to paint them, which is what we normally do for most edges, you'll sand them pretty smooth and then bevel the edge on one side. If you're going to burnish them, which is the traditional way of sealing an edge, which involves some beeswax or water, hand or water, or what we use is this Japanese burnishing cream called Tokonole. We'll put that on there with a wood stick it's real real technical real advanced technology and you rub it real fast real fast and that heats up the fibers and the leather depending on what kind of leather it is it can be easier it can be really difficult the big belts are really difficult because they come dry as hell straight from the tannery so sorry before we do the after we do the sanding before the edges we'll oil them we oil everything by hand uh depends on i used to ask outright what kind of temper the person would like their belt to

have i stopped doing that so if you if you want like a really soft belt out of the box i'll oil it more if you don't i'll oil it once i stopped doing that and just started doing everything twice because that made it incredibly difficult. Also, probably just because it was confusing as hell for people. After that, we'll dye it and then we'll... Shit, I think I missed a step. Yeah, we're good. I just did all this today.

It shouldn't be this hard. Then we'll put the suede liner on. So you're gluing two layers now. I mean, I shouldn't be this hard. Then we'll put the suede liner on. So you're gluing two layers now. Gluing is probably the most tedious and time-consuming part of all this next to the edge work. Then we punch holes.

Then we put the rivets or Chicago screws in with the buckle. I'm sorry, we sew it. And then the rivets and the buckle goes in. And then we finish it with some acrylic sealer. And then it goes out the door. That sounds easy. Anybody could do that. Why do you charge $200? No problem. That sounds so in depth and elaborate. Jesus, that is a, there's a lot of man hours for, you know,

profit to kind of make you go, God damn, was that, was that enough? But that's awesome. We're glad you're doing that. You know, profit to kind of make you go, God damn, was that, was that enough? Uh, but that's awesome. We're glad you're doing that. Uh, you know, there's, you know, like you said,

there's other companies that do a little bit of customization, but the desk sure as fuck not making another house. And, you know, um, once you add her carving and tooling in it, it's astronomical. And there's certain things we do that aren't totally necessary.

And that if I didn't do 9.9 out of 10, people wouldn't notice. But you like beveling the inside edge a little more than you do the outside edge. Because the part that's against your body needs to be a little more comfortable than the outside. That makes sense. I think that's important. You know, I don't want to wear something that's not comfortable. And I think I overthink shit. I think you can already tell that.

But I think like six layers down, you know know i don't want to make something for somebody especially if it's their first belt that they're not going to wear like oh shit this hurts like i don't want to wear this well now that person's maybe going to stop training because oh well my belt didn't work and this shit isn't going right and now i've robbed somebody of something that could have fixed several problems in their life because i know it's been a great help for me for a number of reasons. So I just try to think a little more in depth from the lift. What's your biggest sell outside of like your, the belts that you make for other companies.

What's your biggest seller as far as a single double or used to a, you know, your, your lever. It definitely the, like a 10 millimeter lever belt is probably the biggest seller, um, belt wise. And the particular model for us would be the hand carved text option.

Um, it seems to be a good medium between, I didn't want people paying full custom price. If all they wanted was a couple of words, like if you want your belt to say eat shit, I shouldn't, I'm not going to charge you what i would charge you if randy was going to spend 15 hours putting a full anime battle on it so that seems to be a very good middle ground for folks um and then the uh the accessory straps have been quite popular uh it's that's probably our number one selling item overall for sure and i think it's the most fun to make there.

I think it's all fun to make, but to see that one come from the ground up, you know, we re-engineer the commercial options out there now and add a little bit of style to it, a little bit more comfort and a little more thought put into it. That's probably the thing I'm most proud of. And do you have anything to say to Gluck who wants to,

who tried to take a little bit of, of your glory for making those? My, thing I'm most proud of. And do you have anything to say to Gluck who wants to, who tried to take a little bit of, uh, of your glory for making those? My, my lawyers have advised me to not speak to or of Mr. Gluck, uh, and deny all his claims to any ownership or rights to,

or therein of regarding the quote unquote Gluck straps. We might have to iron that out at home gym con next week then. I mean, hey, we'll all be there. So we can we can iron down some shit. Good stuff. For anyone that doesn't get that, it's just, I don't know, you'll figure it out.

It's just funny. Now, and are you allowed to talk about your deal with a big manufacturer that keeps you busy burning the midnight oils? I know at one point it was kind of under the, I don't know what you were allowed to say on that. I am now, uh, well for a while now I've been operating under the ask for forgiveness, not for permission kind of thing. Um, I would probably be a little quieter about it if I was saying anything bad about them and I'm not doing it to stay in their good graces or anything.

But Rep has been absolutely fantastic to work with. Coming from somebody who swore we wouldn't do any wholesale deals, we wouldn't do any any cut the corners kind of white label kind of stuff where we sacrifice what we've built as a brand just to make some money. They, I didn't have to have that conversation with them. I didn't have to have really any like, Hey, this is our hard nose and our hard yeses here. It was all, we want you to continue doing what you're doing and help us put out a good belt. And they've been nothing but fantastic ever since the day one. It's, you know, something just kind of fell in my lap. Didn't ever really think it was going to happen and pretty grateful for it.

Well, aren't you glad you looked at your DMs that day? Because you think, what if there's another, you know, rep deal sitting in those DMs? You're just fucking ignoring, man. There could be. No, that's awesome. I think that's what's happened about a year and a half or or so because i think it was under wraps at home gym con or it just had happened at home gym con last year so yeah so that's been yeah we were still working out samples last year at the in indiana well that's awesome i mean that definitely makes it probably definitely gotta

make make it a little bit easier a little bit less well it's double it's it's gonna be a double edged sword though because now it's you're still trying to do your mom and pop company and produce fucking x amount of belts but now you've got to make another 500 500 belts every six months or whatever the deal is whatever you know whatever i'm not gonna get the weeds in it but uh right no you're right though it does It does definitely add a little bit of stress to you. But I mean, it's welcome stress. I think I enjoy that kind of challenge, but it allows us the freedom to this. It's going to sound like I'm trying to sell. I'm a horrible salesman. I don't think there's anybody who would argue with that. And I'm proud of that. But it's given us the. The latitude to a point to expand and scale a little bit and allow us to do things that we want to do.

Maybe whenever we get some time, if that ever happens. My fingers are crossed, but we like doing, we like giving shit away, man. Like I love, well, I probably shouldn't speak to Randy. I don't really ask her before I give things away. I just assume that she enjoys it too. She's not stopped me yet. So I'm just going off that. You're going to give your booth away at home gym con like prime fitnesses?

Yeah. I saw that. I don't recommend that for many companies. It's a big financial blow. I did give away a little bit of table space to a couple losers from somewhere up in in i guess what we call america's canada we'll see if they they take it i don't know i forgot their names i think it's tammy and tonner that'll be cool no i have uh i don't know i have an i big idea what you're talking i have a good idea what you're talking about i kind of put that in their brain and crew falls i was like

if you're not going to come to home gym con you have a product that would look really fucking good on someone's table. And even if you break, even if all you do is just give them to them and help get your, your brand awareness out there a little bit and helps you sell a couple more of those, uh, you know, safety products,

you know? Yeah. Uh, well, that's an important word to get out to the people for sure. Absolutely. I can talk about bell fat all day. I don't know how much more,

um, okay. I'll just know how much more, um, okay. I'll just show a couple more of them. We can probably deep dive into you. Uh, favorite custom belt, like, or,

or some of the, like, you know, I think I could honestly, let's, well, do you have, do you have multiple in your head?

Yeah. Oh yeah. There's okay. So now, uh, okay. So Mount Rushmore of favorite belts you've made. So top four favorite belts you've made. Top four favorite belts you've made.

I knew I should have put a little more thought into this. I should have seen this one coming. Or you can go most vulgar or ones you had to turn down. However you want to. Just give me four memorable belts. We have not had to turn anything down yet. I totally assume. I'm all about a free speech absolutist almost, but I just knew

somebody would have something I would have to say no to. Maybe that's just me overthinking things again. I practice in my head a couple times, like, how are you going to tell somebody no if they come at you with this or this? But I'm glad we haven't had to. Or maybe I'm disappointed. I don't know. But anyway. That sounds like a challenge, crew. Everyone. Yeah. I shouldn't have put that out there.

I don't. If I can get the feeling, I don't think anybody in the crew would be the type to ask for the type of thing that Chris would turn down. There you go. And if they are, then they wouldn't be in the crew very long. Yeah, they'd be short lived. I think Joey has pegged me properly. Oh, there we go. That's a good sound clip.

I let that one marinate a little bit. Episode title, Joey pegged me. So my top four. There's a friend. And honestly, let me throw this in there real quick the the best part about this entire operation other than working with my wife every day whom i love very much and cherish every moment with i hope that my wife hears this and knows that that's what i appreciate most but other than that, meeting people, even if it's digitally,

if you'd have told me in the Marine Corps, like, hey, you're going to have a bunch of Internet friends one day and you're like, we're really going to like them and you're going to do like nerd stuff on the Internet with them.

There's no way. But here we are. But that's been one of the best parts is meeting people and getting to know them and doing special things for them. There's another sound clip um one of our earliest proponents nicky who i met on the home gym discord who has like nine belts now he has unwaveringly the best belt ideas and he's got a couple double-sided belts so there's carving inside and outside

and i was real wary when we when he came up with that idea i was like man i don't know how that's gonna you know if you're bending them both ways to make it super thin yeah get a hole in a spot you got a hardware getting mounted to each side like he's he's using a pal which is uh unequivocally the greatest lever ever made. Uh, you know, you're changing that plate from side to side when you decide which one you want to show off that day, but it's held up great. So that's, Oh, I see what you mean. I see what you mean. I thought you just meant like it had carving inside and outside,

but the out was always the out and the end was all the end. You're saying, okay, it's, it's built in a way that he can have fucking, okay. That's so interesting. Yeah. It's, it's, it's built in a way that he can have fucking flip it. That's so interesting. Yeah, it's it's a really cool concept. We got to I think we've got one more in this current batch that wants to do that, too. But he's got one that's the night parade of a thousand demons, which is a Japanese painting like feudal Japan. And it's beautiful. And it's exactly what you what you'd think it is. I mean, it's a bunch of's exactly what you'd think it is. It's a bunch of little

Onis running around and Japanese demons. The other side is cherry blossom trees with poem slips hanging in the trees. It's a piece of art as far as I'm concerned. It translated

so perfectly to leather. There's a lot of things that require a lot of acrylic paint and it's not that they look bad on leather, but you can only do so much to on that medium. I sound like some kind of harsh snob right now. I swear. I'm just, uh,

I can't say that word on public. Can I, but he, uh, no, he, uh, we'll say nerd.

Nerd. There we go. There we go. Yeah. Um, that one, that one's probably my number one for sure. What else? Let's think.

There was a Johnny Bass alone. If you're not familiar with John Bass, he's the godfather of machine gunners. Uh, one of the greatest Marines to ever walk the planet. Died on Iwo Jima. That was a great one. It was real simple.

Just had a silhouette of him on one side wearing his Medal of Honor and then a map symbol for a machine gunner in the middle. And the guy's name on the other. Then it said stack bodies and pile brass, which is a part of the unspoken Marine Corps machine gunner's creed. That was, that's definitely in the top four. Mine, my current belt is in my top four and it's super simple. The inside of my wedding ring is engraved with it's dangerous to go alone.

Take this from the original legend of Zelda. Should have saw that coming. Yep. Yep. Speaking, speaking of which I heard on Joey E's big Joey E is a episode a few weeks ago that he didn't like Zelda. Uh huh.

And I think I'm going to rescind some of my, uh, some of my love that I've had for him since meeting him at Home Gym Con last year. I'm not sure how. But another altercation at Home Gym Con, I'll be willing to. Absolutely. You know, got to feed that. That's the undercard.

I'm just going to get in a ring and just all the people I've got beef with can just line up. Luck first. Let me be fresh for that one. That would be a good booth. But Mopuls has that symbol from the original game on it where he's taken the sword from the old man. But it's a barbell instead of a sword. And there's little heart containers carved around the holes for the lever.

So as I lose weight, I gain more heart containers. It's not been a, that's actually better, but that's amazing actually. Yep. We try to work a little tiny stuff in there that most folks will never, never realize or never notice, but we add little Easter eggs,

I guess. So that's three. What's the four. This is hard. There's so many of them. You sure that's three. I swear. I feel like that's like

seven, but maybe I'm... Well, I guess Nicky's count. That counts for two because it's double-sided. Oh, yeah. And now my brain is like thinking of a custom belt. Which is not good.

That's not good because I said I'm not spending any more money on the gym. But I mentioned last week I watched the Bray. Do you watch wrestling at all, Chris? I used to. I haven't lately. I mentioned last week I watched the Bray Wyatt documentary. So they interviewed his mask maker. And it was the part of the documentary I didn't get to watch.

I actually watched it this morning. Um, and there are little things in all of Ray Wyatt's outfits that were little Easter eggs. So the stitches in his new mask were actually the date of his anniversary. So it looked like his face was stitched, but it was Roman numerals for December 6th. The original lantern, the stitches in the eyes were his son's birthday, right?

The mask on the back of his head was actually a 3d print of his wife's face. So he just did so many little things for his family. And now I'm just going like, well, what if I had a fiend belt? I had a Bray Wyatt belt and I did the same shit. So yeah.

Yeah. Definitely not a good episode for my wallet. We'll chat. I love belts like that. Those are my favorite kind. I like the goofy ones that are, we made one for, uh,

uh, like a, a group belt that was from the home gym. I'm just shit. Jesus Christ. Can't talk to my home gym discord. There's a channel called MCS on there. Uh,

it's got some pretty heavy lore behind it, but there's a whole bunch of inside jokes. Uh, it probably a, a fraction of what a massonomics inside joke belt would be. But that one was fun. Um, just adding little kind of little snippets for people that mean something to them.

That's my favorite. That's my favorite stuff to do, for sure. Made one, speaking of wrestling, I'd say that one's, that'll round up the top four. It's tied between another one I'll tell you about in a second, but we made one with Ultimate Warrior, Macho Man Randy Savage, Hulk Hogan, and now I can't remember the fourth. Probably Bret Hart

or Andre. Well, the fourth one wasn't a wrestler. It was a throw-in from something else. Oh, okay. If you're naming those wrestlers, usually it would be Andre the Giant. Yeah, that would run that one in. But she... Hugs and barbells.

Just wearing this thing. She was... She put an actual piece of shirt, sewed it into the belt, where Hulk was ripping it off. So there was, like, a shirt tearing over the carving. That was super cool. And then there were actual arm tassels sewn into the belt for the Ultimate Warrior. Yeah, that one was pretty awesome. And then we made Icky again. The other one, I was the tie for the ultimate warrior yeah that one was that was pretty awesome and then we made

nikki again the other one i was the tie for fourth i just can't put him in the the top four twice this would actually be three we made two belts a black and a white version of what's called boro it's japanese patchwork it's usually denim um i don't know if nikki wants me telling the story i think i already did on instagram so we'll just go with it. But Nikki grew up pretty poor, too. He's a first generation American and he's a doctor now. His mother would gather patches of fabric, straight up Dolly Parton style, coat of many colors for my Appalachian folks and make him pants and stuff like that when he was younger. So we made

two belts in that same style with black and white fabrics of different types and finishes and things like that. And then Randy actually carved the pattern of both of those patchwork quilts, if you will, that we put on top underneath. And then we glued the Boro to the top. So as it wears, it's designed to actually fray and wear. It'll wear through, and you'll see the carving behind it. It's way over the top kind of stuff, but it really meant something to him. So that's my favorite thing to do with this stuff is make it meaningful. I feel like I just want to know this Nicky person now.

He's awesome, man. These are all so in-depth and awesome. Now I feel like I just want to know this Nikki person now. He's awesome, man. He's like, these are all so in depth and awesome. Like now I feel like I just want to know that guy. He is a, he is a wellspring for sure of many things. Yeah. Just let him know,

let him know that we have this thing. It's called the discord. Yeah. I think he'd be, he'd be a shoe in back in the 1500s I think we would call him our what's the word Michelangelo

I'm really really throwing myself up there really thinking highly of myself what's the word I'm looking for not sponsor I'll think of it when we're off now yeah

you know what I'm not a sponsor. I'll think of it when we're off now. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about. The opposite is like a ward. So like when you have a ward. There you go. There we go. My brain went to the opposite thing first. All right.

I'm going to do a Mount Rushmore because I want to get this one out of the way because it's time to go not serious stuff for a few seconds. Oh, God. There's a couple of Mount Rushmores, but I just added one now. And because it's my turn to talk, I'm doing it. Your Mount Rushmore of Link. Oh. Yep. Man, you can't do that. That's not.

Watch me. You're asking me to like pick my favorite parent and they're both standing in the room um for oh those of us not aware i need some tiny some content i don't know what that means uh link is the uh protagonist i'm assuming it's zelda i played yeah it's like nintendo in 1994 link is the male protagonist from legend of zelda series and when i say you're you're mount rushmore of links it's because there's been so many iterations of link right like the only consistent one i think no there isn't because there's only two games there's only

there's ocarina of time and majora's mask was the same link yeah and damn it balloons and then and then there was um breath of the wild and tears of the kingdom thank you and that was the same link but like really it's been a different link every time so let's i would say number one's 86 number one's the original legend of zelda um that's got to be i mean that started it all so that kind of if we have a number one if we're not just doing straight across traditional Mount Rushmore, but two would be Ocarina of Time. I see there, I threw a two in there again. The another would be Ocarina of Time. That was, man, that was God. Mind blowing.

That game literally changed my life. I think I explained it to someone once about, I don't know that I was exaggerating at all. I think that I had more of a cathartic experience with that game than I did going to war twice. It was that profound of an experience. And I'm sure it was all the teenage hormones and stuff going on at the same time too.

But still, man, it got, it was the story behind that. It was, I'm going to tear up. It was, it was the story behind that it was i'm gonna tear up it was it was amazing but yeah the breath of the wild is on there that's the one i've been playing i finally got back into it like around christmas i broke down and bought myself a switch which i have not

played i got anything i played so much i could go back and look at the hours I logged on Breath of the Wild. But I didn't love it. So I ended up just getting to the part where I was about to go and fight Ganon. And then I was like, okay, I give up. And then I haven't actually picked it up since. And I do that sometimes with video

games. Because I'm playing it for the storyline. And when I know the storyline's about to end, I'm like, I don't really want to keep doing this anymore yeah i get sad and it keeps you from that depression that you know you're gonna feel when it's over yeah you're saving yourself but i think uh that's three i think i kind of like the wind waker it was a little weird but it was it was it was fun it was a fun game yeah it was just kind of like the Wind Waker. It was a little weird, but it was, it was, it was fun. It was a fun game. Yeah.

It was just kind of, I don't know. It felt a little, it was very on par for that era of game, I guess for Nintendo. I really sound like a nerd now. Was, was Wind Waker and I like princess the same length.

I think it was, were those different games. I think it was the same. They were both kind of cartoony in nature. A little too cartoony for me. Yeah. Yeah, I'd say that's the fourth one for sure. Or I guess A Link to the Past, the second game,

is the same as the first, really. Which was the... Okay, so those were the... For those that don't know, those were the ones that were like the map right so like you ran around on like a full 3d map what was it it wasn't zelda 2 was it where it was the side scroller because that game sucked yeah i don't that wasn't too but that one did it was horrible it was like castlevania that was a horrible game

yeah that was a terrible castlevania was a great was a terrible... Castlevania was a great game. Link in Castlevania was not a great game. It was awful, right. Well, Link was in a Soul Calibur, wasn't he? I think so. I never played those games, but I remember seeing them, kind of like a Smash Bros. kind of thing. Yeah. I never got into that stuff much.

Alright, well, welcome back, Keith. Yeah, you guys talk about barbells for a few minutes and I'll do the same thing so I've had a couple people ask me to ask you I'm not sure if the stories are correlated so there's something about being called lunchbox and there's also a crayon story I don't know if that's the same story or if that's two stories,

but I want to hear them both or whatever. Uh, I need to hear to understand lunchbox and crayons. I think the crayon thing is probably just a general, uh, dig at the Marine Corps. That's a fairly modern way to shit on the Marine Corps and Marines in general.

They were crayon eaters. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. I had my head at least two or three. That's me. What was your favorite flavor of crayon to eat or something to that extent? Okay.

So that's, that's more of a general jab, but it sounds like lunchbox might be a little more individualized to you. Yeah. So I had a, that was my one of two prominent nicknames, uh, when I was in the Marine Corps. Um, cause I mean, not that you can tell now me being such a thin ripped dude, not chubby and fat at all.

Uh, I was a, I was a big dude for Marine too. And I weighed like, I think my max weight was like 181 pounds and I weighed 178 out of bootcamp and I looked like I was going to die. So I'm not built to be that, that small at all. So why, when I got to the fleet and I was allowed to be a little fatter, as long as I made the tape test, I was pretty big for a Marine, which that whole culture of being a big dude to be a machine gunner. And it's a couple other MOSs is coming back, thank God. But back then, if you weren't a recruiting poster, they were coming after your

ass. Like you needed to look like a storybook Marine. You need to look perfect. You need to be able to run an 18 minute, three mile, not this guy. So a couple of dudes started calling me lunchbox for the obvious reasons that it looked like I was carrying around a lunchbox all the time and constantly eating that one. And also, uh, cause of, uh,

mall rats, Kevin James, not Kevin James. Jesus Christ. I hope he doesn't hear me say that. Um, Kevin Smith. Yeah.

Silent Bob. Kevin James. That was sacrilege. I can't believe I said that. I just thought of like chubby dudes. But now I'm picturing Kevin James as Silent Bob. As Silent Bob. It'd be a good remake.

Maybe Adam Sandler as Jay. Oh, that'd be the worst. That would be horrible. Yeah. We're supposed to be in a new one. Lunchbox that'd be the worst. That would be horrible. Yeah. Lunchbox with John Candy. Nice. I got called John Candy a lot because I was fat and I tried to be funny. And my platoon sergeant came up with that.

So you're looking like a 36-year-old dude. Yeah, that guy was saying John Candy. So that would have been like... Yeah, that had to have been someone that was 10 years older than you because john candy fucking died in like 95 or something yeah yeah even earlier and my dad being a big fan of john candy and snl and all that that stuff i got exposed to real early i knew what he was talking about with airbills the platoon was like what the fuck what is who is john candy like why does he call you john candy

yeah i could see like a bunch of fucking kids just not even getting it great insult grandpa okay boomer yeah yeah it's a joke i i'm i pretty sure i make jokes like that daily and people don't get like i like they're like what because i fucking ever i don't know some of the guys i work with are my age and i work with a couple guys that are like 10 years younger and just fucking no clue what I'm talking about half the time. But vice versa, I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? So speaking of your family there, was it your dad and your grandpa that got you in lifting when you were younger? Is it kind of what got you into just athletic sports and barbell training and stuff?

So I didn't really get into lifting uh voluntarily until i was in okay and that gave me an out any rare chance rare occurrence where we would not do unit pt and we'd be allowed to do something as a squad or on our own uh we'd go to gym i was like hey as long as i ain't gotta run i'll do whatever but my dad tried to get me to go when I was around my daughter's age now. She's 14. I think I was 12 and I didn't want to do it. I didn't like playing football, even though I played. It wasn't my biggest, wasn't the biggest joy in my life or anything. It just didn't interest me. I didn't, I liked hurting people and doing weird stuff. And those two things don't go together. But it's just the sport itself wasn't, wasn't appealing to me.

Well, he took me to the gym. We had a gym downtown that my grandpa and his friend started way back in like the mid seventies. And it was a rough ass place. This is, this will sound like sacrilege to all the conjugate boys and the Louis worshipers. sound like sacrilege to all the conjugate boys and the Louis worshippers but I saw and heard things in that place that these west side

rock eaters don't it was bad there were bullet holes in the wall let's put it that way my grandpa they called him Ron Braun still do went outside and beat the shit out of three dudes with a trash can lid because they interrupted doubt one day in the mid eighties. I mean,

it was a, it was a rough place. So great place to take a 12 year old son, right? There were, I hid in the bathroom and read the playboys, uh, as much as I could,

but I was trying to formulate a way to get myself out of it and to never be brought back again. So I engineered this, this injury, I tripped over a dip station that was like sitting in the corner, not being used and busted my shin pretty bad and was bleeding all over the place and never got brought back. So that was one of the biggest regrets in my life. I wish, uh, my dad died when I was 18 after I'd been in the Marine Corps just a little bit, he was 35. So I wish I hadn't have done that. And trying to explain that to your daughter when you take her to the gym, like, honey, look, I don't want to say it to you this way, but I'm going to die one day.

And you're going to look back and you've had this damn gym trip. So miserable. Please, just let me teach you how to be physical in some way. You ain't even got to really be into it. Just enjoy it for a minute. I say that shit to my wife and she gets mad. Yeah. We're going for a hike.

I don't want to go for a hike. I'm going to die someday. We're going to remember this. I hope that you think about this for the rest of your life. All I wanted to do was go on a walk with you. Yeah. All right. What do you, on a walk with you. Yeah. All right. What else you got, Keith?

I'll be back in a second. Yep, yep. No, that was good. I want to say it was, I'm pretty sure I had one here that kind of, you had mentioned squatting earlier. So Jason from Surplus wants to know, why are your deadlifts so much higher than your squat? Jason,

look, when he can squat more than two plates, he can talk to me. Jason's a good dude, man. He's been a real good business influence, if absolutely nothing else, and he's been a great friend, too. He's a good guy. Yeah, that's what I love.

There's so many of these military-owned, veteran-owned companies that you just get. You guys seem like you're a whole deeper level of like click and tightness then yeah you're not that you're like excluding other people but it's like you know when you like at home gym com when they got like the picture of all the veterans and stuff up there that was like it was like fucking like nine business owners up there or whatever it was like those cool shits to see and you guys i'm sure they get networked a lot and uh you know help each other out that's just you know very cool to see even if you're not you know you get i'm assuming there's a lot of, you know, help each other out. That's just, you know, very cool to see, even if you're not, you know, I'm assuming there's a lot of ball busting from all the different branches and

you're a fucking crayon eater, as they say. So that's just, you know, cool. Everyone kind of come under the same banner of just, you know, just, yeah, we try to take care of each other, man. It's not, and I, I don't, I don't look down on anybody that didn't serve. You're probably a whole lot smarter than we were. I regret it almost every day of my life, but wouldn't change it for anything. It's a pretty difficult conundrum to deal with on a daily basis. But having those people who share that similar background who are now trying to break out.

You know, when you're in, you're told that when you get out, you can be a cop or you can just come right back in the military. Like there's nothing for you to do, especially if you're in a combat arms MLS, like what are you going to do on the outside? I mean, there's nothing,

there's no, none of the shit don't correlate. Like you, you will join a militia and end up in prison maybe, but it's, it's nice to have somebody that can at least kind of speak the same language and you can share your struggles of not knowing how to add and but still trying to like balance a budget and keep the books and shit like that so how long were you actually in the marines then i was in for four years all right you were foreign and then

anyway we definitely had some cop stories and stuff so you were a police officer at some point after the marines and before uh belt fed so yeah i spent i left that for similar reasons leaving the marine corps um i plan on retiring from the marine corps it's all i wanted to do my entire life and uh it was it was the army my whole family was in the army but i'm the oddball switched to the marine corps uh pretty pretty late in high school but plan on staying 20 years there was a some dickhead staff sergeant was asking everybody i checked into the school of infantry on september 11th 2001 so that was pretty wild and i was like like, well, shit, this is what I wanted. So I didn't think I was going to get it this early,

but here we go. But, uh, this, this jerk, asshole, Krusty who I now look back on and see that he was a reasonable, decent man, but not to an 18 year old, uh, you know, dipshit kid. He said, how many of you guys are going to do your 20 and retire? And, you know, half our hands went up. And he's like, how many of y'all are going to do your four years and get out? And the other half went up. He's like, you dumb fucks.

In a fucking year and a half, it'll be 100% switched. I guarantee it. And, boy, he was right. Two years in, I was like, well, I love it. And I'll volunteer for this next trip to Iraq, but I'm getting out. As soon as my four is up, if I'm still alive, I'm gone. I was gone. So fast'll volunteer for this next trip to Iraq, but I'm getting out soon. My four is up. I'm still alive. I'm going. I was gone. So fast forward to the sheriff's office. Same kind of feeling.

You think you're what you're getting into is going to be one way. And you have these these goals, these legitimate altruistic goals and feelings in mind. And then you realize it is just a giant ass political machine and a field full of people who don't deserve to be there. And I made it as long as I could. Made it six years. Got some really good memories and a couple of good buddies. But other than that, I got a whole new outlook on it now.

Well, I think the main part is you couldn't have a beard. Yeah. And now they're letting people have beards. Yeah. Because they can't letting people have beards. Yeah. Because they can't keep anybody. We lost Chris. We have to let him have beards now. Is that the last time you shaved?

Was that the day you quit the force then? Pretty damn close. I actually miss shaving. It's kind of weird. But I think I might have shaved for a couple weeks after that. No, maybe I didn't. I think it was as soon as i turned my stuff in it was it i used to i've only cut it maybe twice since then

i used to really enjoy like the ceremony of shaving or i didn't go and get like a professional hot towel yes and because it was like this is the the masculine. I feel pampered, but still manly. Right. I had like the frothing cup and all that shit. Right. And then I think the last time I shaved, I don't know if I've told this story on here before. Keith, if I have, interrupt me. It was when I had first started seeing Morgan.

So we had been friends for a little bit, but we were both. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I said, you shaved once. She said,

don't do that again. Yeah. She was like, you look fucking weird. And I was like, nice to see you too. Yeah. Yeah.

And then I went in my, uh, the next time I went to shave, my razor was rusty and I can tell you, I literally went, well, I'm never buying one of these fucking things again. And that was the last time anybody saw my face and that was about eight years ago

i get it trimmed a lot i don't know i don't even know what i would look like anymore i don't want to one day like maybe when i have to i'll scare the kids with it or something but yeah yeah i don't i get it trimmed a lot. I get it taken in. Otherwise, I would genuinely have the biggest, most wild man beard. But because I work with people and I have to convince them to trust me in a short amount of time, the beard helps, but not when it's that big. You just got to shift to intimidating the shit out of them. The bigger it is, the more scared they are. Like, okay, I'll do whatever you tell me to do.

No, that's what the traps are for. That's what the traps on the shoulder are for. The beard is look, I am soft. Everything is soft and I smell good. While we're on beards, one of our listeners and more than likely one of your followers, I don't remember who asked this, but

someone wanted to know if you'd ever, ever consider making a toupee from your beard hair. I have actually, cause this is a, I know that people can't see, but it's a, it's getting pretty bad up there. It's been a runaway.

Just take it all the way down. Just commit to it. Just acknowledge that there's no more hair there and just take it away. And then it's just, and then, cause if you miss the shaving aspect and i'll just shave this out of your head and you take that little bit off the top and uh there you go you can still get that high from that i bought one of those round head like you just kind of oh yeah and it's not flawless but it's three minutes and i and i'm down to the wood shaved. Yeah, definitely. I think that's what's kept me from doing this. I still enjoy going to the barber

and getting what is left faded on the sides and I just like that. Like you said, the ritual of it and feeling like somebody's taking care of me for a minute, you know. That's what I do with the beard. Probably didn't take a minute to get all that hair, although does it, Chris? No, it doesn't take long

at all. They're not charging you full it, Chris? No, it doesn't take long at all. They're not charging you full price, are they? Because it sounds like. I keep asking him. I go to the same dude. Finally found one that's not a weirdo. Like a real weirdo. I went to one guy for a while when I was policing.

He, man, this dude was. I'd come in like early for a shift and be in uniform and get in the chair and he'd start telling me about all the steroids he was buying and like the legitimate prostitutes he was hiring and i was like dude like are you uniform what is wrong with you i don't care you probably shouldn't be telling me if it's i was going to one guy and again we don't want to get political or anything but like I'm sitting in his chair and my wife is sitting there waiting for me and he starts going off and he's like these artists. There's tearing our city apart, blah, blah, blah. And my wife's sitting there staring at him with her notepad out drawing because she's a fucking artist. And you're like, I'm like, dude, have some wherewithal.

You're right. There's some fucking weird, weird barbers out there. Yeah. I'm glad to see that it's international. Oh, yeah. That's everywhere. I did. I finally found Christine.

She's like, I just said to her the one day, the last person that trimmed my beard, I went to like run my hand through it and I kept getting the back under the neck part longer than the front. She's like, well, we do that because it curls. So it looks thicker. I was like,

I hate it. Get rid of it. And then ever since then, she just take like, she knows my beard. Like she, I don't think about it. I just go to her and I'm like,

fix this please. And then like 10 minutes later, I look better. I think that's important. I went to a, there's, I don't know if they're doing it up there where you guys are. There's a big push to like, like fancy barber culture now. Like all these younger guys are really getting into it and they've got these big Instagram presences or trying to get these big Instagram followings. And like,

it managed just a little too far, but I had to get, I couldn't get an appointment to get my beard fixed and I hadn't found my current bar yet. So I just took a chance and I should have known better than to let a 19 year old girl trim my beard. She's probably never even seen more than a dozen beards in her life, but she,

I remember towards the end, she leaned around the chair, like sideways at me and said, she whispered it too. And I don't know if she meant to do it this way or she was just weird, but she said, Hey, has anybody ever used a beard straightener on you?

What do you mean? No, either way, no. There's one near me. And actually, in theory, it sounds incredible. It's a cigar shop. It's a cigar shop. And then a smoking patio. And then a cigar shop uh and then a smoking patio and then a barber shop so like in theory this is

wonderful but like every time i've gone there it's just like the one guy i liked he ended up just retiring to go ride his motorcycle across the country like hey have at it bud like you're awesome um but yeah it's always just these like the hipstery types where they well we're gonna pull out our acts and we're gonna get an instagram post and i'll you are not like i'm i'm gonna go smoke a cigar and make this whole thing smell terrible in a minute i don't need this fancy shit yeah yeah and they're always wearing the goofiest shit too you got a whole bunch of jewelry on and like it's I'm not yeah yeah no

maybe I'm just old now big ups to Christine on that one yeah she's uh she definitely was the savior of my beard I gotta drive half an hour to see her every time I need to but whatever worth it worth it I'm a big fan of the Karl Marx kind of not so much the ideologies but the the beard the

big it's funny because you grabbed your beard but if we can't if we weren't watching this and you just heard him say that you're gonna go oh no what are they getting uh no i yeah i like the i like the straight down almond cut we call it where it's still a little rounded and pointed at the bottom. I was doing it straight cut at the bottom for a long time. But then one day Christine was like, have you tried almond? And I went, that's a fucking option.

And then she did it. Even Morgan was like, that's, that's how you should have that all the time. That's the move. You don't know what you don't know. Exactly. That's why i trust you

the lady i pay for this we are boring keith because he has no yeah i know no that's just i've got a couple quick hitters and there's a bunch of in-depth ones but i don't know how much we want to spend on some of those longer stories uh i'm pretty bad uh let's see i'm trying to think what's the funniest one's going to be. So did you pull a fast one on your sister once? This was the perfect time for him to go dance. Oh, look at the one eye. He's got the one eye closed.

I'm really scared about where this one's going to go. Well, we may never get there. He's probably still talking. Oh, shit. And then he's going to come in and do a fake. He'll be like, so what do you think? Oh, there he is. There he is. So annoying. I ordered

a new antenna yesterday. It was supposed to be like three days ago. It was supposed to be here today, but it's announced delivering tomorrow. So that's fun. I'm really worried about where this one's going. Oh, there was a story about a junior buddy prank your sister by making her think she was getting pulled over and going to jail or something.

Oh, shit. I forgot about that. Yep. We did. Oh, shit. Yeah, we... Shit, she's married to that guy now. God, that's what I did.

It's true. So, she was coming home. She was going to my mom's house, which was in a county that I worked in. And she had never met my own partner, Matt. And my our shift supervisor, Derek, who is now her husband. God bless her soul. She she was single at the time. And I called. I wasn't working time, and I called.

I wasn't working that night. I called and asked what they were doing. They were like, yeah, we're not busy. So do me a favor. Go sit under the bridge on Leverage Lane, and I'm going to come tear an ass by there and then tell her something about how I don't have my license anymore or something whenever you light me up, and I'm going to start to run. And I wouldn't have told this story publicly back then because they would have been pissed.

But we come through the bridge and I gunned it as hard as that 98 Honda. I'm sorry, 2002 at the time Honda Civic would go and just like clockwork. My boy popped in behind us and hit the blue lights, pulled us over about. I think I made it a quarter mile mile i don't want to make it too obvious i don't want to go too stupid in case somebody who wasn't in on the joke maybe was close by pulled over in the little elk lodge parking lot and he came up just raising hell and i was she was she was freaking out because i was like grabbing the door like i was going to get out and run and all this other shit and it's kind of strange to me that she thought that was possible.

I would say she knew you were a cop, right? Yeah, like she knew. Unless you were a fucking hater or something. Right. I was just constantly... Hey, buddy, sorry. So you super trooped her. Super trooped her. Exactly, yeah.

You boys like Mexico? Yeah. She didn't get a kick out of that one. Right, yeah. Yeah, you boys like Mexico? Yeah. She didn't get a kick out of that one. Right, meow? But now she's married to Derek. Well, I enjoyed that story. That's a good one. I got a couple of these other ones that I kind of want to...

I think I'm going to save them for some unpaid or underrated. So I'm going to do an FMK and if Joey wants to pick one more, if not, then we can probably go into unpaid. well yeah we're breaking that two hour mark right let's uh yeah we're already yeah so i figured i'll do fmk and then right in because a lot of the unpaid i don't even care if we go over because i there's there might be more than six unpaid i want to hit because they're just going to be like there's some good ones i hope uh so fmk uh power lifting strong man So FMK, powerlifting, strongman, making dress belts. Oh, shit. Who told you that one?

I hate making pant belts. I've heard. Oh, God, man. And I don't know why. They're so simple. But I just I think I'm worried that I'm going to do something wrong. I don't know. God, I'm fucking killing that for sure.

And I don't think I've worn a proper belt in years. Just get pants that fit. Fucking figure it out. I wear one every day because I wear a tool belt on top of it. So I can't. I got to, you know, get my pants up. Since I don't leave the house, I come. You double belt?

And then come straight home from the gym. So I just wear gym clothes at work all day. I very rarely wear a belt. I have one of those incognito belts, right? It's just like an elastic band that only goes around halfway through you. Fuck, I love those. Now, I do like making gun belts, which is just like a double layer of a regular paints belt.

But I fucking hate trousers. Yeah, I think I saw that on Instagram. so i figured it may make it easy on you so basically it's just uh we kill that you know fucking mary powerlifting and strong man what do you get so man it's a rough one sometimes i want to yeah you have done i know you have you done sanctioned meets in both yeah um i've only done deaded meets in both. Yeah. I've only done deadlift only and powerlifting. I've still not done... Yeah, I was trying to find an open powerlifting. I couldn't find you, but I wasn't sure if it was under Chris or Christopher,

but nothing was coming up, so... No, I've been putting that one off. I just did a deadlift only and I was stupid trying to cut a whole lot of weight and didn't pull worth a shit. Barely pulled 630. But... Yeah, that's just fucking pussy weight right there god damn you know for 280 pound man i can never struggle with 450 and you're there yeah yeah and and i mean if it's your first meet i wouldn't worry that much about cutting

weight like so it probably cost you some some pounds yeah abc always be cutting that's that's the super heavyweight for me i was gonna say that i was abb always be bulking been bulking since birth i don't know about you guys yeah no i wasn't trying to cut just to make a weight class i've just i'm on a perpetual cut because i'm fat and same doing really good at it and i didn't want to stop and i was like well shit i am so close to this weight class i might as well do this stupid little water cut for three days and it wasn't smart oh okay i know that just sometimes like when i talk about it i get people that are like 220 pounds and like i'm gonna get to lower weight class and i was like dude figure it out

like just just lift in your lift what you're in now. It's your first meet. No, I want to win an award. No, you don't. You need to go and get your lifts in. Yeah. So it was FMK. What did we get there? I was having fun. You need a power living strong man.

Which one are you fucking? Which one are you marrying? I'm probably gonna... Oh god, this one's hard. This should not be this hard. So she's going to like the game. You do have some druthers there. I would probably

if I had my druthers, I would probably marry powerlifting because maybe it would be like some sort of Victorian betrothal where I would learn to love my wife, my wife later on in life. And I would,

I'd keep that strong man mistress on the side. She'd be the name, you know, always there. If I needed her, the true love on the side, I probably, I hope my wife doesn't listen to this.

Oh, I'm not sure. Randy, Randy married me. It's pretty busy. It's probably, it's probably a fucking cut, spray cutting leather right now. And she better be, I hope my wife doesn't listen to this Oh I'm not sure Randy Mary She's pretty busy She's probably cutting leather right now She better be She's in the room

She better be by God So those orders are backing up What is your chart I'm just curious Get back into the belts real quick If a belt comes in today mildly you know meet you know i guess so custom text whatever what's the uh when's it showing up at my house we're talking like a month you're talking two weeks talking two months we would conservatively say four weeks but i we have finally as of today

really we've finally gotten semi caught back up on stuff like that. And we'd probably get it in two. You're going to hear folks order now. Yeah, order now. So three spots left. Made it to a liar. Just an influx of orders to fuck you up. Yep.

Okay, before we jump in unpaid and overrated, unpaid and underrated, what does Matt mean when he says, get the fucking gun up? He means that's the call to arms, whether it be, I think that's applicable to any absolute fucking aspect of your life. Get that fucking gun up. It's your one true job is to stay on that gun for as long as possible and to burn them fucking barrels up. That's the machine gunners. I guess it's not motto. What's the mantra? Get that fucking gun up.

Yep. Always, no matter what you're doing. Well, speaking of that, he wanted to come here and ask you that himself. But he just couldn't make it tonight. So I thought I would ask on his behalf.

He's a good dude. I don't know. He's out there in Baston. Bahaston? Baston. I think when he found out he wasn't going to get a pillow he just decided to bail. I was thinking about shutting this shit down when I didn't have a bag. We've never ever done that. Just like fucking walk off. I was thinking about shutting this shit down when I didn't have a bag. I just,

fuck, we've never had to do that. Just like fucking walk off. I thought it was a fucking dickhead. I thought it was a, I feel like, go ahead. I'd just be like,

oh man, I get to go to bed now. That's awesome. Like, we'll figure it out the podcast tomorrow. I'm going to bed. That's so great. I would literally just sit here and just podcast by myself like i would just pick up the phone and

phone scans i would just phone people until somebody answered and be like yo jump on the zoom and it would just be me standing here with my phone recording into zoom going scans joey you want to you want to come on okay no okay i'll phone tanner and i would just keep doing that till somebody jumped on the zoom and it would be the worst it would be the party cast of our podcasts oh i told you i'm the worst guest you ever had um so big chris unpaid or underrated uh game we created all by ourselves similar to overrated and underrated but you know a little better uh so unpaid obviously being no thank you and underrated being awesome. So we're going to do a few of these.

We might do more than a few. So I'm going to kick it off here with one that should lead into a pretty funny story and feel free to tell the story or not. So CBD gummies. And I've read the story. I don't know if you want to talk about it or not but feel free or just give me an answer we can move on I don't want to put you on the spot you don't have to say the story and I have I have so many questions about this

so uh fucking unpaid like that man that was uh I've had some experiences in my life um if i had to narrow down to three of them that i'd never ever want to go through again that's that's one of them uh me being a fairly straight-edged person for most of my life i didn't drink or smoke or anything like that until i joined the marine corps a lot of other people were starting way early in high school and stuff like that. I think I'm maybe have partaken in the devil's lettuce. I can't maybe five times in my life. Never really,

never really enjoyed it that much for various reasons. But my buddy, my buddy Matt tells me that we're going go hiking one day and find this place called the lost cove in unicoi county one county over it's an old kind of like a mining town that's legit just cut off from the world and people had to walk to and from it to get to any kind of civilization and the houses are still there the cars are still there from like the, I think the latest was like the late forties. Um, so I was like, yeah, let's go. And he was like, well, I got these gummies. And I was like, man, I told you, I'm not, I don't, I don't know about this. And at some point during the, the, the argument or the,

whatever you want to call it, I was like, you know what? Fuck it. Let's let's see what happens. And in my ignorance, I believe that this was a weight based sort of dosing chart. You know, I thought, well, I can this dude weighs like 180 pounds. I can drink more than him. Surely I can eat more of these gummies than him. And I ate one. And he says, well, the girl at the shop said you should only start with one. And she eats them a lot. I was like, well, the girl at the shop said you should only start with one. And she eats them a lot. I was like, well, how much does she weigh? He was like, I mean, she was little. I don't know. And I just popped two more in my mouth. And he looked at me. He had that look in his eye like, oh, shit. He said, are you sure you shouldn't Google what's going to happen if you eat this many of these things?

And I remember turning to him and I should have known something was wrong then. And I said, man, they couldn't fucking Google what they were going to find on the moon when they went. Could they? That's a good answer.

Where we're going. We don't need Google. That's a good answer. So, uh, about, I don't know. Thankfully we,

a horrible storm hit us as we were trying to find the little trailhead and we had to turn back because i absolutely would not have wanted to be in that lost cove town for any portion of what was about to follow i got back home and i immediately went to the couch and uh felt the earth open up underneath me and just knew that I was going to be sucked into a hole. I was trying to cross my arms and like hold myself, but I couldn't because my arms were now blocks like a Roblox character. So I had to like hold them like this parallel, like an equal sign. I could not open my eyes for fear of seeing the hole that was

opened underneath me at some point Randy got me into the bed I felt horrible we go into the bed and she said she says are you sure you're going to be okay

and I was like I don't know please don't leave me and I made her pet me like a child for probably 45 minutes. And I said, please don't let me fall asleep. And it was like I was present for the whole thing. And I could see the hilarity and the shame in all of it. But at the same time, I was just completely terrified that I was gone. There was nothing. Nothing was going to bring me back.

And I remember trying to stand up. She said, where are you going? I said, I'm was going to bring me back. And I remember trying to stand up. She said, where are you going? I said, I'm going to go to the bathroom. She said, well, get up. I said, I can't. She says, why? If I stand up, I'll go through the ceiling. I thought that I was going to launch up like some sort of rocket and be on

top of the house. That was the last time I did that shit. The first and last time i won't i won't do that again so i i don't know oh i was gonna say i i i don't know how to break this to you um but cbd alone doesn't do that uh yeah i think it was the delta 27 or whatever was that was in it yeah yeah i i've taken cbd for therapeutic reasons it helped with anxiety helps with pain management right and i'll take 20 milligram doses two three times uh and at most i might feel a little okay heavy doses of thc do that so i think they might have been cbd gummies but they might

have been 50 50 on those fucking they might've been 50, 50. And they tasted really good. And I think that was part of the problem too. Yeah. Yeah, no, I definitely, I was reading this story.

I was going, no, no, like I can have a CBD and my day goes fine. I'll have one in the morning and go through the entire day. But if I have like one little drop of THC, I get what you got. Right.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure they might've been that Delta, I guess Delta eight, which one's the one that's like not good. Is it eight or nine? I don't know. I'm not, I'm ignorant to that stuff.

I am too. I just know that when I go for, I go for 0% THC. Yeah. 100% CBD, 0% THC. Take that under guidance and give it one more shot but i don't know no no definitely don't do anything you're not comfortable with but i was just like yeah you definitely you got dosed with something there that actually sounded more like sadova than anything oh yes oh yeah and then this is to you can continue it on with Joey pronouncing shit weird.

That's called Sativia, isn't it? Sativia. No, Sativia is a sweetener. No, Sativia. Sativa? I say T-I-V-A. You're adding vowels. I thought it was Sativa.

I just remember a couple of my buddies. I did that shit in fucking high school once. Oh my god, that was... The whole world went left for a minute. How'd that fucking happen? Yeah. Like I'm laying on the carpet and I was like, somebody goes, how do you feel? And I was like, everything's left.

They're like, what? I was like, just everything's going this way. The whole world is going this way. And it's fucking wild. Right? No, thank you no i that was the closest i mean i've never like done like hard drugs or anything but yeah i ended up doing that once and uh i literally took a trip yeah i was on a fucking i basically had to like lay down in a room because i was so fucking out i think i was

fucking drunk and stoned at the time anyway anyways that contributed back back when i did that shit um and there was like a painting of a fucking ship or something on the wall and like the next thing i knew it was like in my head for 20 minutes i was like a fucking captain of this boat or some dude on like the deck of this like ship like swaying in the ocean and stuff man i was and you come out of it and the guy in your life like man how long was that did you were in that room for like two minutes i'm like the fuck two minutes i was literally in my head for so yeah i was never want to do that shit i've you know that i think i yeah that definitely cleaned up my shit after that was one of the like the last straws of me like being a dipshit with like experimenting with shit so uh not something i was proud of um yeah it's fun. It's not my bag. Not my bag, baby.

Well, something that is your bag. I'll ask you about this one here. Unpaid or underrated? Weird angle Wednesday. That shit is underrated. Man, it's taxing. Like, I missed it. Completely forgot it was Wednesday yesterday.

And I feel really bad because we have such wonderful devotees that are regulars, but man, it's, I just don't, there's so much potential there, but I get it. You know, it's not, it takes a lot of effort to remember and think of something and try to be original. But, you know, I think a lot of people think that it has to be workout related. No, you can do that any, any time of day, any place. I think it's a good way to break the monotony of bullshit social media posts and just do something stupid for once. I think that was the first time I actually got wind of you

was because I posted a really silly video of me benching and making funny sounds. It was when I first did my Jennifer Coolidge impression for anybody. And somebody, I think somebody tagged you and was like, is this a weird angle Wednesday? It definitely was because it was like from the inside of the,

like you couldn't see the plates. You could just see the bar coming down and like the side of my face. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. And somebody's like, does this count as weird?

I go Wednesday. And I was like, well, it does now. Like I'm in. Yeah. That's, that's one of my favorite things favorite things man plus it's a good way to show off my wonderful beautiful wife in different angles you know it's my favorite thing i get asked a lot of times like look at all these thirst traps i'm like look this i'm not trying to sell you

anything with this i'm just genuinely that obsessed with her i want to find as many angles as possible to photograph, photograph her from. It's a thirst trap. No, my wife is hot. Shut up. Yeah.

Shut up. I outkicked my coverage. Let me see. Yes. I think we all did that for the most part. From what I've noticed in the crew, I think we've all done well on that department. I feel.

Unpaid or underrated. I'm going to have to do two more. I'm not sure here. Let's do it. Yeah, so this one you already kind of touched on it a little bit, but what do you got? I say you should do the first one because I don't know any of those people. All right, yeah. As long as you ask the third one down. So

unpaid or underrated? Group chats with Jason and Kurt. That is her to rated. Yep. Randy specifically said, I think you giggle like a middle school girl when you get texts from it regularly. So it sounds like you guys got a pretty tight connection there.

Yeah. They're always talking to that. I'm, I'm way behind most of the time. Like I am on everything, but they're always talking about some pretty, pretty entertaining shit. and even if it's just like random

this is going to sound a little too intimate but random hey I love you or have a great day or some shit like that some things that people just need to hear occasionally but they're good dudes man they're fairly entertaining

for a lot of reasons, even the Kurtz in the air. We can't forgive him for that. Well, what, what's the, uh, what, what's, what's a good jab at the air force guy? Uh, you know, I just mean, I just don't know how, well how his parents haven't disowned him or how he goes in public wearing that uniform. How he has a why for children that haven't ran away. He must be doing something.

Is chair force a regular thing? Chair force, yes. That's a good one. It's a classic angling for. I had a friend come in and he was telling me about, he he he kind of dancing around it that he's in the forces and he was like well you know these this is what pilots have to do in order to be like and i was just like yeah the chair force like i get it like i understand and i didn't realize that he was in the Air Force.

I'm just like, no, man, you're not really going to sell it to me. I don't believe that pilots need to be in top physical conditioning and strength because I believe that being smaller makes you a better pilot. So it took me a bit. And then suddenly I was just the mean guy who invited a friend to the gym to insult him. The air farce. Hey, that's a show up here. Is it? Yeah, the Royal Canadian Air Farce.

Oh. Yeah, yeah. That was a big sketch comedy show with political commentary and stuff like that up here for a long time it's probably pretty entertaining yeah the rcaf is the royal canadian air force and then they had the air force as the the tv show we need one of those just spreading the spreading the word yeah all right i got a couple of man i don't know which one i want to ask but uh fuck it fuck it I'll let you rip on this one you already kind of

dove into it earlier so unpaid or underrated general leather craft pioneer fitness so yeah I went to the store today man I don't know I gotta be careful with this

no no no we're here you did it Keith this is all on you you have opened this box everything that happens is because of you it's because of you you are responsible someone forward this to Matt

so I would say man there is no middle ground why would you do this to me you gotta pick a side no riding the line can't ride two horses with one ass he's putting belts in people's hands

okay I'm gonna say unpaid and I'm gonna throw down the gauntlet right now for WW I gotta come up with a wrestling for belts world and I'm going to throw down the gauntlet right now for WWB. I've got to come up with a wrestling for belts. World belt wrestling. WBWF.

Here we go. Smack. Fucking leather smackdown 2025. Unpaid. But no, I've thrown shit out there a few times. I think the jokes were taken a little too seriously and I mean I am an asshole sometimes but like I've never legitimately called the man out or anything like that it's always been in jest but I don't think he shares the same sense of humor but we did we have talked a couple times recently uh which was

strange to me I got a my phone lit up and it was a DM from Matt Haddon. I was like, oh, shit. What the fuck have I done now? And I opened it and it was a picture of we're both let's put it this way. We're both joined in a war against some belt importers who have belts made in China and Pakistan out of completely dog shit material. And it's like 73 layers of junk and sewn together with shit thread and it'll never break in. It's not real leather, but they like to advertise premium leather and stuff like that. And I think you saw where I make it a point. I go out of my way to comment on those posts like, hey, where do you get this leather? Oh, premium leather, huh? Still that line like that's that's the one one

point of animosity that i would exercise on social media like i'm not gonna start any drama anywhere else but by god i will go after them and i think he saw it because he was on a couple of them too and uh sent me a picture he had bought one and cut it open and it's exactly what we thought it was so that little meme with uh Predator where they're shaking hands and it says, well, such and such and such and such has joined in battle against this. That's us. Nice. Well,

that's fair answers on all those. I'll go ahead and hand that over to Joey and see if he can't get you in trouble too. Yeah, I've got four of them here and one of them I don't understand. So I'm going to start with that one unpaid or underrated stingray corvette oh shit so there's there's two pieces in here i hate corvettes and i hate stingrays by proxy of a gentleman that i've failed multiple times on stingray

leather gear and i promise i'm going to come through for him one day but uh i would i'd say definitely unpaid unpaid for sure that was uh pulled from a facebook post in like 2008 where you were trying to sell one oh shit yes yeah i tried to sell that just to make a little bit i can't stand those things i didn't know if i so wasn't your i didn't know if it was your car or not i assumed it was by the i was my father okay okay so very swing and a miss by me on that one then no you're good i just couldn't think back that far that was that was good okay uh unpaid or underrated leverage belts what's a leverage belt i did not think i'm not specific oh and he froze okay so these are his show notes what about the breath belt

ah man I don't I'm not a fan he doesn't listen you can say whatever you want not a fan that's definitely unpaid I'm drawing a blank on leverage bill. I'm trying to figure out.

Who added that? I don't remember. It was a regular. I think it might have been Joey, but I'm not positive. Great. Moving on. I feel bad. That's okay.

The next two, I promise, are probably going to get something. So unpaid or underrated bubble gum. I eat the shit out of bubble gum. That is underrated. I think actually on the way here, you ever seen those little bags of bubble gum gold?

Yeah. It comes in like a little sack. Yeah. I ate an entire one of them driving to the shop tonight. I think this might be the only time I think we've disagreed all night i fucking hate gum like i love it i only use it when there's stuff in my teeth and i don't have toothpicks like i i hate and i spit it out immediately i hate gum you're not getting the right kind of gum then man i will i'll chew it for long enough i just can't stand anymore to swallow it like i'm sure you swallow all that bubblegum oh yeah dude that's not a whole bag of big league chew like it's gone it'll be in my belly it probably doesn't matter i think your

stomach acid is going to take care of yeah of almost anything right like the whole idea is for seven years yeah yeah seven years you'll poop bubbles yeah well maybe i want to poop bubbles yeah maybe i want to shit a balloon, Mom. Yeah, you're not the boss of my poops. Don't tell me how to do my life. So what's your favorite bubble gum? Definitely underrated. What's your favorite kind of bubble gum?

Oh, great, great, great. Sorry, absolutely great. Is there a brand? Is it like, so Big League Chew is like the best known, right? It's top tier My mouth is watering now thinking of fucking Bubblegum What a nightmare Hubba Bubba is a good one too

Yeah they really figured that out pretty quick Hubba Bubba is Hubba Bubba's top echelon Alright well crew Feel free to tag us and tell us How wrong we are about Bubblegum Because we have two opposing people here Yeah They'll us and tell us how wrong we are about bubblegum. Cause we have two opposing people here. Yeah.

They're there. They'll come and let us know. Uh, last one, unpaid or underrated Garth Brooks. Underrated for sure. Now, if you would have said Chris Gaines,

it would win another way. Oh, I love Chris Gaines. So we can have that conversation too. I don't know that i would have fully went unpaid but it would have gotten close garth brooks however is one of the greatest human beings to ever walk the planet he is i'd call baton rouge every night for him with my last dime okay that's my man yeah actually i i agree and i know all the jokes about where's the body girth and

all that but like because sometimes we just can't have good people in pop culture and you know after everything he did for his kids and his ex-wife and just as a man in general he's absolutely amazing now hold on what's the problem with chris gain, the fictional character? Because hold on, hold on. It don't matter to the son. Incredible song. Incredible song. And I don't disagree with that. Lost in you, despite the stupid voice he did in the song.

If you look at that song from an outside perspective, Childish Gambino does a cover of it. I've heard that. And when Childish Gambino does it, you realize how good of a song that is because it's out of your head that it's Garth Brooks. Right. Because that song's amazing. But specifically, I was asking because

unpaid or underrated Garth Brooks. Yeah, there was a story halfway up, I think. I know I'm looking for it. I'm looking for it. The little singing. Yeah. I might have already. I don't think I crossed it out.

No, you did. But it doesn't matter. I should still be able to fucking read. Yeah. And that did that there. No, you did, but it doesn't matter. I should still be able to fucking read. There it is. Unpaid or underrated Garth Brooks at the Mid-City Grill. Shit. I was really worried about the sister question earlier

because I thought it was going to be I thought it was going to be about some incidents at this particular dining establishment with my sister which I don't know if I should clarify or leave that for the imagination of the listener that could go a few ways too especially here in the hills it's definitely underrated. We've had quite a few.

Why are all my good stories about substance abuse tonight? I mean, this story was just about you singing Garth Brooks to a diner of people. Really drunk. Perhaps late at night. I wasn't going to go there with you. You said I was drunk. late at night. I wasn't going to go there with you.

You said I was drunk. I would never say that. As a regular drinker, I would never call somebody drunk. That was a good night. Not the worst thing I've done in the city. Well, I think you passed

unpaid or underrated. Indeed. I'm glad I passed something. Pass that bubble gum soon. Indeed. I'm glad I passed something. Passed that bubble gum soon. Yeah. Alright, I think the next one is Go ahead, Keith. You go. I've been talking a lot. You got anything for

us, buddy? Anything you want to turn the table and bust our balls with? I think you've foolproofed yourself. I don't know that I have anything to come back on now. I just appreciate the opportunity, being able to run my mouth for a little while. I'm pretty long-winded and get off on tangents and stuff. I was worried I'd bomb your podcast here. You did absolutely not uh except when you said that keith has proved himself i don't think he could ever foolproof himself and one thing i've

noticed people come on and they're just like so joey wrestling or hot food and then they just lamb based keith for a few minutes and i'm kind of like maybe i need to be a little more out there and ridiculous for these jokes because yeah i think it was hannah she's like no all my funny questions are for keith that's a damn it i i may overshare on this podcast with the listeners of aspects of my life for sure so yeah that's one thing else but no i know you i because you've been on some a few other podcasts and some other youtube videos but everything's been more shorter format i think that you probably haven't gone more than like like well an hour or so with some of the other guys probably yeah if that yeah you did now you just did something with uh with joe gray was that an older thing or just something he because it was only like 15 minutes or something

i didn't know if it was a clip from something bigger or if that was the whole I didn't want to watch it and let it interfere with this podcast. That makes sense. No, that was last week. We filmed it last week. I think it was Monday. Anyway, but it was last week. I'm doing a Reddit AMA.

Okay. Like the two days before Home Gym Con. Oh, sweet. I thought that was a good idea to sign up for that. for those two days when i'll be setting all that shit up but uh then also i have to figure out how to use reddit somehow in the next like 14 days just thinking what the fuck is reddit yeah only that's hey chris we're we're a week out buddy we're we're like you're gonna work it's it's thursday i'm gonna be i'm gonna be in french lick and fucking oh no i'm gonna wait never mind we're two weeks okay i've got a vacation yeah you know so i'm taking oh shit i'm taking short weeks the

next two weeks my parents are coming to town next week and then home gym comes a week after i got that yeah i don't know yeah we're are we're for 14 days, 14 days at wall. Be drinking a beer and French lake on Thursday night. Uh, more than likely that was my, it was my fault. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah.

I think I, even earlier I said it was only a week out, but yeah, that's on me. Definitely two weeks. Uh, do you guys go about the same size booth? We got a double,

we got 200 square feet this year. Oh, wow. Yeah. Hunter was just a little too small last year. Um, I want to spread out a little bit more and plus we'll have we should have quite a bit more stuff this year too so i want to have a you sell custom that's what i was going to say like you sell custom stuff how do you even

have a booth but make your own station that's kind of fucking neat no i think it'll be really fun man that's going to be um as long as i can engineer a stand to do it right because you got to do some pounding on that thing and you don't want to be doing that on one of those sam's club fold-up tables and go through it yeah um i mean i should have asked rep for like a one of their uh storage stands and just beat on that. That would have been a good product demo. Damn it, why'd I have to undo that? But we're bringing stuff like tricep ropes, not ropes, tricep straps, handle straps, deadlift straps.

I'm going to make a few like general sized belts. Last year we kind of just threw some ideas that we'd been thinking about onto some belts. I've got a bucket full of stuff I've been wanting to see put on a belt. We just kind of guess sizes just to have like a little smattering of an offering of what we get. Some key chains last year to a little keepsakes. Yeah.

We picked one of those up. We actually pick a handful of key change from a few different companies that were selling stuff. So definitely my, my one current belt fed belt fed created product. But after after this i might have to uh i don't know i i've been a loyal pioneer or belt wearer for damn near a decade probably at least seven or eight years uh but yeah i it was definitely an upgrade over that fucking ender and i'm sure that ends that ends forever belt they call it a fucking forever belt because it takes forever to break in because it

never fucking breaks in yeah those things it's ridiculously uncomfortable i'm not sure why they're even a thing like why do people spend money on that shit but uh but a randy carved nwc no wine cellar or something or other goddamn let's get my dick hard i like the sound of that it'll look good i have a pioneer belt myself it says lift bearded because that's always just the thing i've always said um but i have a problem where belt myself. It says lift bearded because that's always just the thing I've always said. But I have a problem where my shoulders and back are getting bigger, but my gut is getting smaller. So none of my shirts fit and now my belt doesn't fit properly either. So yeah, you might be seeing an order from me, but don't tell my wife.

Speaking of home gym con, don't forget code unpaid to get our tickets, to get a little money money off your tickets um obsidian barbell code unpaid or lift bearded goes the same way barbell rescue code unpaid like our code is just unpaid across the board yeah someone was asking the other day like i it cap locks shouldn't matter for anything no at least it doesn't usually so yeah just unpaid one word big things coming from home from Plate Snacks. I've got some inside information about maybe a small announcement coming soon on that one. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Check out Home Gym Con. I kind of wish I was going now.

It's going to be a good time, man. I was really pleased last year. I was glad when they announced it and jumped in the first day I heard about it. I'm glad we did. It was a killer time for a lot of reasons. Indiana is just a bit too far for me. There's only so many large trips to the U.S. I can make. The Arnold, Lift Hard, Live Easy, possibly Crew Falls this year.

There's only so many ways i can spend my child's education yeah maybe it's lapsed one day anyway that's just not none of that money won't matter it'll all be it'll all be food and ammunition i was just half done now if you're in that if you're in that six hour range to get to indiana to come to home gym con it's well worth it if your crew there's gonna be at least to have you know a borderline well worth it. If you're a crew, there's going to be at least a borderline a dozen crew there. And if you fucking any inkling that you like home gym equipment,

it's the place to be. So I can't recommend that event more than I already do to anyone. So other than that, I think we're going to bring it in for a landing though, boys. So on Instagram, Unpaid and Underrated Podcast, that's us. The website, unpaidinternpodcast that's us the website unpaid intern podcast.com youtube go find us there i am big keith keith honeycutt 73 go follow my orange gym then a

wine cellar big chris where they're going to find you at buddy belt fed strength everywhere mainly instagram and randy's at belt fed muscle mommy and don't forget i'm going to have a my only channel coming up pretty soon where i will make leather goods in my underwear. So if you're interested in that, just send me a DM and let me know. I should hurry that up. And leather underwear is definitely where it's at. Yep. Yeah.

Speaking of where it's at, where are they going to find you, Joey? Joey underscore M-L-E-C-Z-K-O. That's it. Ironically, I've been thinking of getting Facebook again just because of all the marketplace talk, but God, I fucking hate Facebook. Me too. It is definitely an uphill battle. You can always do a borderline fake account.

But that's even worse. I left because of those jerks. I hate stuff. The worst. I can't stand it. Yep. Actually, that's where you can find me what what what what what say it

say it see you next Tuesday