Unpaid And Underrated - 050 : I’m Touching His Yolk

Episode Date: April 23, 2024

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Hogan. They dive into great topics like wind breakers, Dr. Big vs. Big Dr., what is a musical, moving a home gym, sacks, spicy stuff, and split levels. Links Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @worldsstrongestpsychologist (https://www.instagram.com/worlds_strongest_psychologist/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Hogan.

well hello everybody and welcome to episode 455 of the unpaid and underrated podcast the podcast where keith has to turn up his headphones during my intro because i'm clearly talking like a weirdo all right this is the podcast for crew by crew mocked relentlessly by crew. And this tonight actually attended by a bunch of crew. So welcome to all the looky loos tonight. At some point, we will have to kick you out. But for the first little bit, I did invite all of you to join. I am joined by Big Keith, who is drinking a beer without a koozie like a weirdo.

Howdy. No comment on the koozie thing? It's not even a beer, is it? No, it's not a beer. If I stick it in Tanner's 80s koozie, I can't get it back out, and then I don't know what I'm drinking because I already stuck it in the koozie, and then I was like, what the fuck is this called again?

Because it's something brand new, and I spent the last 45 minutes trying to get it out of the koozie, so I can't put it back in until I tell you what it is. Yeah, you do need some straps in that thing. Also joined by Big Hogan. How's it going? Wonderful, wonderful. Glad to have you, buddy.

Wunderbar. Big Nate, our producer, is here again. You can't get rid of me that easy. He's here to make me feel bad for all of my choices in all of my technical aspects absolutely a huge episode tonight got some big stuff coming um including an announcement which is why i got everybody i put it in the discord to join tonight to live view uh they will be muted they can come off camera

because i haven't figured that thing out yet i guess i'm gonna have to bother uh big tony they can do what they can do what they can come off camera if they want it just won't matter they're just gonna be muted um but yeah big announcement coming uh let's dive right into this guys what are you drinking i've got i got go ahead what do you got buddy i got a raspberry cranberry look look for la croix la croix nice uh this week i got a new one i think it's olipop by brand orange squeeze seems like fucking four dollars or like three dollars or something it's one of those prebiotics uh pretty decent uh definitely different uh i think it's better than the last prebiotic i had though so i don't give it like a 3.5 on that hippie juice he is on the hippie juice that was such a funny segment last week nate water uh yeah i've got water uh

supporting local businesses such as uh unpaid and underrated with stickers and as well as a local favorite uh walkie talkie coffee shop which the zoom ai things keep blending all of it out so it doesn't matter um and i also have a koozie unlike keith but it's not it's not holding my water but i I have one. I've got some water in my Arnold Classic, Columbus, Ohio. This year, no, the 35th anniversary I got this.

Got the pin and got all the cool stuff. And I'm having a Keith's because fuck it, I have no problem. Let's go. What are you wearing? Who are you wearing what? Well, Hogan's wearing a pretty nice looking looking shirt what do you got there buddy yeah in uh honor of our uh little sisters podcast last episode i got a bar don't lie by mr basement brandon not not too far there from the cellar keith

yeah i got a i got a few of his shirts sitting in the closet right now. I'm rocking out the Masonomics weight as a number, heavy as a feeling tee. I didn't see one of his flags or flags behind you. He does have a flag there. It wasn't until the end of last week's episode that I realized that there was a pioneer

flag in my video the entire episode and Chris had to just be staring at it going, you motherfucker. We stand by all of our partners. I added that question to my list of inappropriate things that Keith brings up in the podcast. Oh, I want that list

in general. Send me that list if we don't get to it tonight so I can put it on the Instagram. That could be like a bingo game. Ah, shoot. I gotta spin up another bingo i'm sure i missed a couple i got a handful uh that was gonna i'm not doing this but it was going to be the uh uh unpaid underrated was going to be his his list make him take his own medicine on these questions he puts people through. Labor unions. The free square is he brings up his own unions.

Yes, labor unions. I'll never talk about that again. That one went over my own head of like, oh yeah, that is political. I love that somebody came in and left. Like, are we boring you? If someone probably just clicked on for a half a second and then they heard me

yeah that's typically what I do with the massonomics recording when they're live I go on for like three seconds and I just get off I'm like why did I even yeah I'm gonna listen to this next week I don't know why did I it's like why did I go through the time to get on this thing you guys aren't even you guys aren't even 1.25 right now like I'm not listening to this

I've got the Godzilla deadlift dungeon going you know in support of crew and uh in support of well it's not in there but um i think i finally renamed my gym yeah i think yeah yeah we were the winner it was dilf dungeon you know like i was deadlifting and i had the dilf shirt on and then i was like you know what i'm gonna give two kind of serious ones and one really stupid one and i really should have expected the really stupid one would win so are you gonna be careful with that like because like what is what do you have a pc version of what to say it when you're a kid like daddy why do you

have a banner that says dilf in your basement because i mean it's what we literally named our podcast this week dad i'd like to follow oh yeah yeah i like dang i like frogs dang i like frogs like damn i like fucking dead lifting or uh fall just the season of fall yeah i like fall yeah yeah yeah football. Yeah. Yeah. Football. I can definitely, definitely, uh, make that a little easier for him to understand, but, he should stay out of my gym. Um,

uh, I posted a video of me lifting a rock in my driveway the other day. And what we didn't see was in the second version of me trying to do that. When I dropped the rock, I hadn't seen my little two year old come from across the yard and was less than three feet away from me. When i dropped the rock i hadn't seen my little two-year-old come from across the yard and was less than three feet away from me when i dropped that rock so now i'm absolutely terrified to lift rocks in my driveway so we're gonna have to take that into the basement and lock it up because you know ptsd is a son of a bitch in it so we're definitely gonna hide that rock and and lift only where the locks are

hidden which what you're wearing over there nate yeah so we got this game we like to play ironically uh i am i'm wearing a bar does lie shirt um created it's made by your favorite brick and mortar store tango charlie they are brick and mortar no no um just kidding no what's their fucking name again the brick and mortar store we're not gonna name them got the metal nomics i got the metal nomics t the most the most controversial blank there is possibly that thing's tiny that thing's like a my xl if it's like a medium that i've wore that once and it's like yeah this is gonna never be swinging again luckily i've accidentally lost a ton of weight

and it fits really well now. There you go. They must have gotten notes from Brandon. This run was, it's the smallest arm shirt I have. It's large and it fits like a small. Cut him off. Yeah. How much do I have to pay Karen

if I just send her a a pile of shirts just can you just cut these for me and send them back because karen cut shirts are you know top tier hey karen i've got a shipping container full of uh shirts on the way if you could just cut those and just send them back that'd be great thanks joey yeah uh signed massomics. Please invoice Tanner and Tommy at Masonomics LLC. Payment, too. All right. All right, all right, all right. You guys want to get into rating last week's episode?

There's nothing I want more in my life. Can I go first? No. I've had it. All right. What I did listen to, I phased completely out. Five out of five. Yeah, it was good. I caught the beginning of it live, I think, last week driving back from a work trip.

So that was nice to be able to have something to do for about the first hour or so, 45 minutes. And then I think I listened to it Sunday night. I must have fallen asleep to it, too, because I woke up to Scantz making memes about home gym con and like not getting it. And I was like, I could have swore I finished that episode. And I went back and I was like, oh yeah, I definitely like missed the last 45 minutes. I was like, oh, okay, fuck you Scantz. But that's pretty funny. But all in all, you know, Brandon's always a good listen. They talked about basketball more than I think I've ever needed to hear

basketball talked about. But, you know, never a bad episode with some bald guys on there so five out of five mass economics gym ipod touches they talked about two of your favorite thing home gym equipment and you i can't believe you phased that out i think they did name well i was waiting you know i feel like keith has been on the past like four episodes let me tell you it hasn't helped my follower count i think i've gotten like two new followers of like people that i was like that might have actually

came from the podcast and that was it so uh get on the mass economics podcast if you want to get two new followers we need an i am inevitable uh meme but it's just keith you can get that work recurring segment what is the keith where's the key good stuff uh yeah i got to listen to it this is um one of the first where i listened to the guest at one time speed uh i've been a two-time speed man in preparation for this this day. I've heard of it. And I have a special ear for that. And so for that, I of course have to give it five iPod Touches out of five. Good.

Nate? Yeah, I really enjoyed the episode. Basement Brandon is always a great hang. And he's just a real homie, really, honestly. He was talking about how he answers all of his DMs and I was like you know what that's true because I was working on a

stupid video about strength co-plates and I messaged him and I was like hey can you give me a video of saying you know they're my plates and I want to go to them now and homeboy like set up his legit camera like outside of his basement and did a video of him jumping out of like his basement window with a strength plate. And it was just like, you've gone above and beyond anything that I've needed.

Like he's a, I was like, I was like, this guy knows who has zero clue who I am. And I'm just going to like, Hey, I'm working on this video that you have no reason to believe is legit. Like, you know what I mean? And he's, i mean he did it so he's like here's the file thanks i was just like this is crazy so for that reason um i'll give it the whole episode even though none of that has to do with the episode but i will give it five massonomics gym ipod touches now yeah that's almost as was that almost as bad as when i uh rated an episode from 10 years ago and you know that this is i am rating the correct episode based on criteria outside of the episode itself which is allowed what you did was heresy a travesty and a sin against all of mankind well

at least i give it a five out of five so there's that yes but yeah sure keith whatever makes helps you sleep at night in nate's defense uh Brandon, I've been talking with him about pizza, and he says that if I make the trip up, that he'll take me to his pizza spot that we both say we'll like, and he'll buy me pizza. So he's bribing crew now. No, you can't do that. For his rating.

Yeah. I'm allowing it. Well, if you allow it, let's get to the thing everybody's been waiting for. What is this news about Scantz? We don't know. It was more just by the time this is listening, everyone will know about it. I just thought

if anyone looked at Instagram today, I think I reshared 17 funny things about it i just thought if anyone looked at instagram today i think i reshared 17 like funny things about it so uh they're already gone but uh yeah they just kept coming in i figured i'd get like one or two because it's like it's always hit or miss on when i put something on instagram of what i actually get for feedback but scantz is you know uh what is it made made matriarch of the crew if you will patriarch matriarch whatever the fuck that is uh so yeah there i think everyone knows scant, so there was a lot of good funny, witty comments about him and how old he is, basically.

I think they almost all were age-related. Wait, Scantz is old? I mean, compared to some of us. Joking! I think, honestly, I'm probably closer to Scantz's age than we are, like, at least a third of the crew that are, like, in their early 20s, which is, you know.

I think Joey and I are closer to Scantz's age than we are Nate's age, almost. Time's a flat circle, baby. All right. Yeah, that was the Scantz, the anticlimactic no-no's. Wow. anticlimactic no-no's. Wow. So, to jump in here,

everybody, in the great words of Oprah, look under your chairs. I'm on a standing desk. What do I do? Under your feet. Oh my gosh, how'd this thing get under here? Are you standing on it? Stop being a fucking nerd for a second

and just go look under your whatever you're on. It came all the way from China, and you're gonna... It was under my feet. I was wondering why it was so cushioned. I heard a challenge I've never even began to pronounce. I also haven't seen this yet.

It's been sitting under my desk. I don't have a knife. I do not have a knife. What year is it? I don't keep them in this place because children. I have three knives around me at all times. Alright, I found a backpack. I've got multiple knives now. Holy shit.

It's a bag. Gentlemen, life just got better. Is this a... Unpaid and underrated... This is an unpaid and underrated windbreaker. It is. Oh man, I gotta get up. I gotta take my head off.

On the back it says the podcast by crew for crew. Hogan's got one himself. Nate, did you manage to get yours open? Oh, I got mine. Oh, it's in a bag. Bag. It's in a bag. Bag. Whoa, look.

Mine looks like yours. This is insane. This is literally insane. Dude, this is literally insane. Zoom. I am so happy with how they turned out. I, I,

I thought I was going to get ripped off for where I found this from. No, these are crazy. I'm going to look like such a psychopath. I look swaggy as heck. I almost wore it to work the other day uh because it was the perfect temperature for it yep and i was like oh i just i don't know if i can get away with it i can't wait to wear this around and look like like from body break like this is fantastic

all right reverse for yeah okay i was about to ask i was like yeah it's got a woman's zipper i don't know why but it it does so get over it but hey it's got pockets so it's not full woman's apparel i didn't know it had pockets i don't think it advertised that so that was cool well i got that going for you which is nice listen that zipper boys it's got good cuffs too so zoom's never gonna let that sound through no never i got arms and i always take long long long sleeves with short cut with with loose cuffs so this will actually like fit oh this is wonderful appreciate it buddy dude i'm gonna be so athletic in this segment that is the most financially invested someone i think has gone with their uh

crew gift. I just want to know... The money I saved on shipping to Joey alone made it worth it. Where's the Keith head in this, though? That's what I'm looking for. I don't see any Keith head on this. There's no Keith head. So I understand that there's a little more to this. Hogan, I'd love it if you could

announce what we brought everybody in for. Gotcha. So challenge day, while we have some great crew members supporting us by being in here live and everybody else, we hear this when it comes out that you can win one of these as well. And I will financially back this project. So we're going to be introducing the first unpaid and underrated podcast challenge. To win this beautiful windbreaker, post an Instagram reel of yourself doing one of the drafts that we're going to pull in our game. I'll give more of the details at the draft, but essentially you're going to be using all four pieces of the home gym equipment that we list in our draft pick one person.

You can use any additional safety equipment as needed. Just stay safe. Don't get it hurt. Tag unpaid and underrated podcast and use the hashtag. I believe we landed on pillow pillow talk pillow talk there'll be a post with

more details for spelling on that. I threw that out there. I was like ah, fuck you pillow and pillow so yeah hashtag use the description in two weeks winner will be announced uh selected by our wonderful host here so the the goal here is we're gonna do a snake draft i think we you might have left that part out we're gonna do a snake draft of our favorite home gym equipment

which as you all know is my favorite favorite topic. So I'm going to take this a hundred percent seriously. Um, and then all you got to do is yeah, just film a video of you using, it doesn't have to be in one video. Don't be big Mikey or whatever that dude. Yeah. Yeah. Please do actually, that would be better. No, be safe. Hogan hogan said listen what you do is what you do we cannot tell you what to do we are thought we won the war we are not responsible for anything that you do with our snake draft your snake is your own snake you play with your own snake if you get bit by your snake that's on you your snake problems are not our snake problems we're just simply doing the draft you're doing videos.

Video at your own risk. But as Masonomics always says, keep it under a minute or if it's a slide, like have everything pretty quickly in the beginning. Don't want to watch five minutes of a video because you wouldn't edit the first couple like 30 seconds. So this this will be released on Tuesday and we will be recording the same tuesday this is released right so you have a week after that you're all very lucky that i am off monday and tuesday every week for the next month so i will take some time to go and go through all the videos and send keith and hogan my ratings and nate my ratings um and then they'll do the same uh but yeah you've offended as you're listening to this on the tuesday you

have two weeks officially to either go and purchase the winner or your favorite and uh and record that with that said what good a rule i'm assuming we have to be crew to submit. Like we can't, can be crew adjacent apply. I think it's gotta be crew pretty much. I just, yeah, yeah.

We'll pull in, we'll pull in Tanner to make sure your, your membership's up to date. Uh, but with that said to all of the crew listening, uh, we're going to start the draft now. I appreciate you guys showing up.

Uh, I am going to kick you out unless you want to leave accordingly. But you guys are aware now more than anybody else. Keep it to yourselves. It's top secret. And with that, I got my gift. I did not prepare a draft. I prepared

nothing other than opening this gift, and I didn't even remember a knife. So for those reasons, I'm out. Later, buddy. I really i really am careful not to report people big thank you to nate for the help with getting this put together the issues that i went through to try to make this jacket on my own were nuts and he just gave me a file immediately to make it work so again Hogan was just slowly revealing what the gift was.

He was like, could you tell me about the font you guys use? It was just slowly progressing. He's like, okay, so basically here's exactly what I'm doing. Can you help me with this? It's just like a slow progression. I gave up.

If anyone has anything like that in the future or ever once files, we have a, we have a Apple folder. We can just send you the link to, we can get you a high quality picture like pretty quickly. If you ever need any of our logos. Yeah. We'd love to help you,

but absolutely wild that I have a windbreaker with my podcast on it. I know, right? Yeah. I've got a shirt now and a windbreaker. I can't wait to fart in this thing. I mean, can we just call it a... Bye, Nate!

I think I'm going to call it an anti-mosquito jacket for Tanner's backyard. Like, I don't think I'm going to pack it and bring it, because I don't really want to bring on more luggage. But, oh, man, that'd be good. But it'd be a good crew fall jacket if I make it out to crew falls again. Yeah, I told Keith to keep some room in his bag for when he came to Jim

Conn. He's got to be ready to rock a windbreaker. All right. So we, we kicked all the look leaves and the guests out. Appreciate the guy showing up, but let's get our guests on the horn to do an ad read. Shall we?

Do you have one for us? I sure do. Hello, Big Hogan here. Attention. If you or a loved one has been diagnosed as a submaster's lifter, shirt wearer, or been known to have unsafe drink

storage, you may be entitled to becoming part of the Mastonomics crew. Mastonomics are a couple cool being guys linked to talk about lifting. Exposure to Massanomics by podcast, Instagram, YouTube, the Arnold bathrooms, or being an unsuspecting Aberdeen citizen in July may put you at risk of becoming a fellow silly goose. Please do not wait. Go to www.massanomics.com today to start your just one more collection

of parody gym clothing, drink spotters, or to secure your spot as a supporting member but act fast because there are only three spots left become part of the crew and act now yep massanomics.com slash join get in there

hopefully at the Arnold you may get the reference i might have missed it you remember those mesothelioma ads no this is a like a line by line a ripoff of the you may have mesothelioma contact for compensation. Yeah. Oh, see, I'm Canadian. I wouldn't have that. We don't, we don't have those kinds of lawyers up here. Jokes are always better when we explain for the David.

So I think that's a win-win for everybody. And we made him leave. Yeah. Right. I felt so funny. So I had to make sure everybody knows that I'm funny. No, that's the point of this entire podcast. That is why we do this every week. So let's get our guest on the horn.

Big Hogan, is that you? That is me. I'm here. You are live on Unpaid and Underrated. A lot of time coming. I think so. I've been leading a lot of the chat going forward. Keith, I'd love for you to jump in and ask a couple questions here.

Yeah, buddy. Hogan, the one we always kick it off with, what brought you to Mastinomics? When did you find them? How did you find them? What's your backlog status? All that. That's it. messages uh and i have a beautiful one from keith after home gym con on april 27th which will be the anniversary of the strongman throwdown um he says to me are you in crew i say sorry the what

he says massonomics discord crew i said oh i am not said i'll take your confusing as a no it's the supporting members they always talk about be in mind i didn't know what the podcast was he said one of the handful of niche things i'm balls deep invested in that's that's how i talk and so that that was my introduction from from there i talk about uh you know having the home gym really disconnected from a community really enjoying the community aspect that was built at home gym con uh leaned into the massonomics became a crew probably before i listened to a full episode um yes bought into the crew before you bought into massonomics i was more interested in the people than the the podcast and so i've probably spent

more time on unpaid underrated and crew than their podcast so i mean something wrong with that that's pretty good yeah cool with that that was me selling everything at the arnold too right like that was me people coming up and they were like you know oh what is massnomics what is this what is that and then they'd come over to me and i'm like imagine 400 strong dummies making each other laugh every day in a discord you could be a part of that and that's when it was like you know i'll bring a laptop next year and i'll literally just turn in the round and be like yeah put your credit card here sign in right now like because you're right the crew makes massonomics and they've said

it before they can't imagine things now without it so that's it's fucking that was amazing to hear man thank you and i remember i mean i've looked at their merchandise for years i mean i remember things now without it. So that was amazing to hear, man. Thank you. And I remember, I mean, I've looked at their merchandise for years. I mean, I remember seeing the 8-bit flag, the Strongman flag. I saw that for years ago, and I was just like, eh, not yet. And eventually I got it,

didn't know what they were, and just two things coincided at a perfect time. Well, that's good. I'll add one more tally to my list of people that I have got into the crew over the years. So that makes me happy. Yeah, your anniversary is coming up. So I think they owe you $36 in kickback. Nice, nice, nice. And then that'll get you one step closer to that Hall of Fame. So what is your Hall of Fame status? I imagine it's somewhat low.

Then if you've only been here, what are you like five or less? Right on five. That's exactly it. Yeah. You got, you got plenty of time to catch up to everybody else. Um,

so if anyone wanted to find you Hogan, uh, where are they going to find you on Instagram, Instagram, discord, your username, all that stuff. Yeah.

So if I'm on Instagram at hogan underscore jim um i think on the discord i'm a big dr hogan or something like that um i'm probably the only hogan on there so that's an easy way to find me makes sense uh we'll everybody to go give hogan a big follow on instagram he's always out there lifting something and uh pretty uh active in the stories of lifting stuff so So it's always fun to watch. Where are you from, buddy? Hi, Nick. You've been all over the place, but where have you been? Where are you at now? Yeah. So I'm born from Athens, Ohio, but moved around. I spent most of my time kind of in Eastern Kentucky area. So it was nice to hear the Appalachia from Chris for last week.

And so I really did like hearing that. It kind of felt like home because I'm back in Columbus, Ohio right now. And so the, the very no accent talk has come in strong. So that's where I'm at right now. Were you at the Arnold this year? I was a last minute decision. Like the week before bought some tickets, just came on in did the rounds whole thing okay honestly embarrassing question we met right we did not i know i i knew you'd be there and it just became a timing thing and like you said uh

my phone worked but i wasn't gonna try to i don't know it just became a timing thing. And like you said, my phone worked, but I wasn't going to try to, I don't know, it just seemed weird to like, hey, can I come say hi to you for four seconds? Because I had so many other people I wanted to meet. Of course. I have a post of like, I was bouncing to get pictures. And this one plate, I get signatures at conventions I go to. And so I was trying to get that full. So I was just

crammed okay because i was like it was one of those things where i was like no he was at the arnold and then i had to track and go okay hold on did i actually meet him and then like i had to go through it and i was looking at the pictures of you i think because you met tanner and tommy yeah and then i was like okay so then was i there at that time so i was trying to track that through and in case you're wondering that's how wild the fucking arnold is there is there we were there at the same time for sure but we just never crossed paths despite me and you probably being in the same place at all times so that's how wild it is i still joke about nate sending me a voicemail yeah and i've just i literally just texted i'm not listening to that i'm over at the strength So that's how wild it is. I still joke about Nate sending me a voicemail. Yeah.

And I literally just texted, I'm not listening to that. I'm over at the Strength Co. booth. Don't leave me voicemails. Cracks me up. I should have kept it. I would ask you what one piece of Mathenomics merch you wish you had bought was, but you probably don't have very good tabs on what their backlog of... Oh, you do have an answer. Okay, what do you got?

I do. I do. And I am, I kick myself so hard. Because again, I've been looking at these flags and their merch for years. I mean, I've had a home gym for a pretty long time. And so decorating has been a thing of it. The Highlands 8-bit was a flag at one point. And they have a spot right here for it.

And man, I just, I didn't, I wasn't there. I guess I could give you the trifecta of all three of them there. I know. It's such a good wall. And I'm kicking myself over it. What is that? Posh.com or something? Like some lift shorts popped up on a couple of last year.

Maybe it'll come up there. I mean, there has been some crude trading. Like people, you know, some people have been trading some stuff and buying selling some stuff that doesn't fit so there's always could always be worth throwing it up on a post and just ask i have some 85 pound york round heads uh a little barter oh yeah so you were uh you you ended up picking those up uh they're uh right below me here yeah so have you guys do you is there a connection are they going to are they going with someone from home gym con to make it out west or what's uh what's what's the next trip i i can't remember the crew member who's but i don't think they have discord

uh tan message that they'd be there i don't know the handoff i'm bringing them and if someone is convincing enough to vet their crew and they're going west that's where they're going which i think is the spirit of it it's like they will get there one day as long as they're there before arnold 25 it was faster i'm almost i'm almost probably i think it's going to be a guy named george from what i've uh i think tanner and uh kurt kurt we're talking about that and then so because i added i added a george from what i've uh i think tanner and uh kurt kurt we're talking about that and then because i added i added a george to the spreadsheet of who the uh who i was going to be at home gym con because it looks like we're at 13 crew confirmed at home gym con this year sure no

no but that's a guy named george yep george george if he doesn't have a tattoo don't don't give it to him oh that's uh that's that's a general topic uh extension right here uh who was it it was uh so i can't remember who it was in the discord i think it was was it was it was it moto or somebody else but they toast they did a screenshot of dan bell doing like a double bicep, and you can kind of see the massonomics of him upside down on his inner tricep, bicep kind of thing. Yeah, that was the picture he sent me. It was him doing double bicep. It's under there.

Yep, I got you. Yeah, so he did make that go live. So we got a confirmation of that. The rest of the world got a visual confirmation of what we had broke a few months ago for everyone uh what about your uh profession hogan and i know you're you're a doctor now so you know are you uh you're like big jake out there doing all kinds of stuff with catheters are you a little don't don't something a little different what hey no the real question because like he's you're a psychologist. We're not going to... There's no brain catheter.

Is there a brain catheter? You could do some electrical stimulus. I don't think I'd call that a catheter. You're not... Well, like a... Lobotomies are pretty much banned now, right? We're not doing those for fun anymore. Yeah.

I mean, the electroshock therapy, that one's still kosher uh but okay not not lobotomy so the real question is is it dr big or big doctor gotcha so i agree with big dr jake i much prefer big hogan psi d like your your letters so for when you So when you're a doctor, your letters are kind of more what you care about. The problem being, like the people who are DOs might feel me on this. When you have obscure letters that are still a doctor, it just doesn't sound right. So I follow suit. Big Dr. Hogan. I did a video with Kurt Locker. And I think that's how he introduced

me to. So I think the name has chosen me. I haven't chosen. So that's something you just you went to school for several years and just started practicing in the last year then? Yeah. So I finished my pre-doctoral internship at Louisville last year. And that was around when I went to home gym con at Keith and everybody there. Um, and then finished in August of 23. And now I am, uh, got my doctorate and working on my postdoctoral hours and then licensure exam and all that fun stuff. But I practice right now. I work at a VA. And so I'm doing all the doctor's stuff there. Hey, I know what that means this time. Yeah. Yep. Veteran, you know, affairs, I believe. So have you been helping out anyone from Tango Charlie since they are, you know,

veteran founded? You know, it does sound like they need help. They're really confused or they're having dissociative states or their memory gaps. They need to talk to somebody for sure. How have your pets handled all the moving around? I met your bearded dragon last year. You can plug his Instagram if you want. I think he's got more followers than Big Moto does. Instagram if you want, if I think he's got more followers than Big Moto does. Yeah, that's Lifting Lizard, I think. So Nicole, my partner, she runs that account. That's not a me thing. That's a her thing. It's her class pet.

He's right now, he's over here next to me. So we have a lizard, a bearded dragon, two cats, a dog, and a spider is our little zoo we have. Wow. Yeah. You guys, you had, you guys were walking around with the, with the bearded dragon, like just on a leash, I think, or on your arm pretty much the whole time last year. Yeah. He just holds on.

He's a good, uh, attention grabber and it was a small enough thing where it became a good icebreaker there. Nice. Are you bringing him back to home gym con or is he staying at home this time? That's the plan. He should be coming, Nicole. And I have a whole gang of people are coming to watch me do the throwdown. And they'll take turns kind of taking care of him. He's pretty low maintenance.

He can just go in his little carrier as well so he'll be chill nice yeah i saw you guys you've been training pretty hard for that so that should be a good time i i thought about throwing my name in the hat and i just uh i kind of didn't really want to spend the whole weekend there spend like thousand plus dollars to get there then like spend three quarters of a day competing and then like being exhausted the next day i just wasn't really up for that uh and then i tweaked the shit on my back a couple days ago so definitely not doing anything like that but no you've been you've been smashing it so uh excited uh you think you're gonna hit however you think you're gonna hit at least the opening weight on everything

because i know some of that that was kind of intimidating some of those numbers of like oh can i rip out 200 and like maybe for a single i don't know so i will say the opening event the medley that is right on the cusp for me uh you're right the those are pretty big numbers and in my opinion uh i've been talking with the cart about it and we're both like we can do it can we do it all at once when it comes game time i don't know it's it's kind of exciting because you know all the pieces of line it could happen i again like i said i worked out with kurt and i got my hands on the implements like you know not that's a pretty leg up but inside right i got to touch what will be there and the dumbbell was the that that's going to be amazing to see people press.

That thing is incredibly hard. It's a MB power center, big top. So think old time globe style, strong man dumbbell. And that is so much different than like your standard circus dumbbell. It, it's a beast.

No, it should be fun to watch. Uh, definitely be cheering some people on, you know, I'll be dumb, definitely be in and out, but probably not gonna sit there for six hours and watch cheering some people on. I'll definitely be in and out, but I'm probably not going to sit there for six hours

and watch a strongman show, but I'll definitely cheer on some of the big lifts and have a good time. But if anyone listens to this, I think you still have a couple days to get your tickets and get your ass to French Lick, Indiana. Use code UNPAID to save a couple bucks on your tickets and come meet a dozen of us at Home Gym Con.

Head on down to french licking oh yeah so you've uh you've had to rebuild the home gym what five or six times now then with all your moves i guess that had that said i'm assuming that have you done whatever a lot of other people do is take that opportunity to just sell off everything that you don't like i'm not moving this to then maybe sell it next year like i'm selling all this shit six months before I move. And then I'm moving the bare minimum. Absolutely not. I am a stubborn, I scrounge this thing together. The deals I have made through Facebook, I have highway robbery people through what I have in this place. Uh, uh, I, I couldn't, it's like a, I couldn't financially cover if I did sell it.

It would be terrible. So, no, I have invested a lot of work and moving effort every time we go. I know one kind of sketchy thing that happened. We moved from Lexington to Louisville. And it's a pretty close drive. It's like an hour, hour and a half. And the car I had at the time, it's kind of like pulling a little bit and just being stubborn and dumb i just kept going on it and after we got done with the move i look at the tire

and the the wires or whatever in it were showing and i go oh shoot i should have thought about this um my my mid-20 year old brain kicked in and i did not act responsibly and i probably had thousands of pounds of metal in there with me so uh we we skirted that the move up to columbus we got a giant u-haul like the big 20 footer loaded that thing up filled it to weight capacity had to do other loads of vehicles um so we've had to do the math on how much this thing weighs a good bit i'd imagine okay so no no no i i have a question i have a question it's not even a question um so you did musical theater and i would just love to know um what um musical would be the story of you moving your gym oh man it's always les mis isn't it if i'm here jackman it can be les mis any anything with you oh yeah that was that was uh who said

that this week was it always tron said you were uh looked like wolverine and youine in your Deadlift video. That was a good Discord plug. That was a good Discord plug. Very nice. That's the funny thing. I did the musical because it's a fun attention on me kind of thing. That egotistical, going to act and be silly. I am not into musicals. I just love doing them.

Same. Definitely in high school I was not into... I still hate musicals to this love doing them same so same way yeah definitely in high school was not into i still hate musicals to this day except for like there's maybe two so repo the genetic opera was really fun because it was so different um and the muppets i mean the muppets do the muppets count as musicals 100 yeah well then i guess musicals yeah i guessuppets count as musicals? 100%. Yeah? Well, then I guess I like musicals. Yeah, I guess I like some musicals. Technically, every Disney movie is basically a musical.

Yeah, that's true. But I mean, they're cartoons, so we can't really like... What are Muppets? Just puppets? Are they Muppets? They are Muppets. They exist in their own realm of fabric creations. are boring keith right now oh you're good no we need to there's plenty of equipment to come i do want to do a follow-up on your job though i didn't catch it at first glance it said uh the dual certification as a sports psychologist. What is a sports psychologist?

Gotcha. Yeah. So I'm a clinical psychologist. We have a handful of different psychologists. A clinical psychologist, someone is probably what you think of the chair and all that kind of jazz, talk therapy, that thing. Sports psychology, you have to be a psychologist first, and then you get a certification to work with people on performance efforts. So it's not mental health related. It's performance and sport related. So it's different types of techniques or measures that you can do to optimize your mental functioning on the field or on the court or on the bar. And so I find that to be really fascinating.

There's some good studies out there that I like to just read for fun. that to be really fascinating. There's some good studies out there that I like to just read for fun. And so when I get finished my licensure, I already have some connections on getting some more education and more school so I can get a certification.

To basically help people get strong and stay strong. And use their strength. There you go. I like that. And use their mind. Yes. Use your mind, use your strength. To contribute to their strength. you go i like that and use their mind yes get out of your mind use your strength yeah to contribute to their strength i remember there was a one guy in massanomic god damn if i can remember their name because that's what i do uh but they were talking about putting like like blankets over the weights so you didn't see how much you were lifting because you could like psych yourself out so like your coach would be like we know what

you can do but you don't know what you can do so we're gonna hide it and you can pull it off and god if i can remember who that was it was the white rhino i just can't think of his name the big like 1100 pound squatter yeah and that oh what the fuck is his name but that's definitely a thing that i've always thought about because sometimes like i'm looking at a a small squat and going, I don't know if I could do that. And then I just do it. Like it's nothing because my eyes are closed.

So I guess that would count as sports psychology. I mean, that would be a method though to help. And then where like my job would come into play within that is does that effectively work for you? If not, how do we adapt it to make it helpful for you? So it's less about getting you to fit to the technique, more of getting the techniques

to fit to you. So like that example, I've read a paper on that where it's this disconnection from what you do from what your coach instructs you. And it's a blind acceptance on you give up control to them and let them completely dictate how you act. And that could be a method that does that but at the same end if you have someone who's wired to where not knowing causes them so much anxiety that that confirmation hinders them from focusing on performance

well then you've actually hindered them in that method but some people probably really effective i'm guessing based on what i've heard from keith that would be a hindrance to him uh my coach did blindly put in my third squat because i wasn't really feeling it and i told him like one of these two and he went with the one that i mean i probably had like five more pounds in it but like i was not feeling up for squats that day very good uh to follow up i believe the one joy was talking about would be the vanilla gorilla blaine sumner because i know he specifically talked about his coach putting garbage bags on his plates uh i'm like 97 sure that's who it was probably yeah there could have been other people too i mean it's probably i don't i don't remember names i don't remember names or follow people we all know this and then um

yeah i because i mean i'm kind of of the means where like I go into Juggernaut and Juggernaut's like, we think you're going to do this today. And then I'm like, no, that's too heavy. And I will like sandbag my warm ups because I'm afraid. And then they're so easy. And then the next day I'm like, OK, I'll go with what the warm ups are. And then they're still fucking easy. But I mean, that's because, again, I'm psyching myself out. That's too heavy. I can't do that. I mean, that's because, again, I'm psyching myself out. Like, that's too heavy.

I can't do that. So that's really fun stuff. So Juggernaut does do that to you if you just listen to Juggernaut. Sponsor the show. What are you doing for coaching, Hogan? So right now, I had a coach for about a year and some. And I switched for the Strongman competition due to just a host of reasons and I did the plan that

I'm going to mispronounce his last name Andrew Honest yeah he put out a plan because he's one of the co-directors it was like a 12 week free thing that came with your meet sign up right yeah it was like yeah it was real cheap

and I was like i'll just do that it's made for the thing that he made um and i've been following that as close as i can um obviously home gyms you kind of have to adapt a little bit but it's pretty comparable and so that's been my current run after this comp i'm taking a little bit of a off season and i'm going to reevaluate what i want to do for coaching. I find coaching is imperative for me to be able to perform well or because even though it's a guide, I message him regularly about it. And so it's kind of like getting a little bit of help from a coach every now and then. I always tell people coaching for me is just the accountability.

Like if I'm going to spend 60 bucks a month or more or less, whatever, if I'm spending some amount of money, I'm going to be more committed to my, you know, my three or four days of training a week. I'm, you know, not going to do something stupid. I'm going to try to stick to like 90% of what's actually on the calendar that day and just, you know, have some stupid fun every now and then. But like 90% of the time I'm going to do what the guy I'm paying tells me to do. Same thing with meets. Like if I didn't sign up for meets, I wouldn't like give a shit about training so that's uh good to hear i'm not the only one in that uh what's your athletic background did you do a little high school sports or anything

yeah so i mostly come from a background of endurance running i did cross country for about 10 years uh found that when i got to high school you know I was on the varsity team since I think seventh grade but due to the fact that our teams shouldn't have a lot of people and I was bad at it I really couldn't get any ground on the competition until we would get to long runs like 10 plus miles so before that I did terribly I got into lifting uh for just you know you're a young adult and you start getting into lifting and i really liked it and our coach we had a weight room coach he invited me to they're not sanctioned meets they're like local high school compete powerlifting meets i don't even know what to call them really they they do a meet and they have judges and whatnot just an unsanctioned unsanctioned like go lift

for fun see if you enjoy they get a bunch of schools together yeah it's kind of like that and so i did that for four years and did very well um at my weight class and so i just fell in love with it and um then i went to college and just continued powerlifting did a lot of more on sanctioned meets mock meets on the side at the university and a few other places and then other sports at the time in high school I did track and field and I remember when I switched into lifting and less to running I told the coach i'm not gonna run i only want to pull vault so i only pull vaulted which if you on a track you do four events so you train for four things typically at practice if you do just pull vault you have a real cushy practice it is great so that was fun

did you do any wrestling because I heard you did some wrestling. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so I did wrestling as well. And that broke me. That is a very demanding sport. Oh, my goodness. I was a light guy. I remember at a freshman year of high school, I weighed 89 pounds.

Jesus. And I would often get paired with, I mean, now, you know, still a light guy, but 130 pound guy because we didn't have anybody anywhere near my weight. And I would just get smashed. It was just rough. Well, I would say, you know, you train against, you know, do anything against someone better than you and it'll help you get better. So that's basically living the embodiment of that. If you were 40 pounds lighter than the next dude, would you high school at if you grab you started at 90 pounds would you would you graduate at ballpark uh probably so when i would compete the 135 36 somewhere i came with the number uh but i naturally weighed about 145 okay so 50 pounds in four years it's not bad that's so is this about the time that you started

eating dinner or meals in bed at 2 a.m i didn't switch to that i i'm sure that's a nicole one uh i didn't switch to that till i think my senior year of college it finally clicked on me, eat big, get big. And I would say every two years since then, two or three years, I will gain 20 more pounds. And so I stayed about 150, I gained 20, gained 20, lost a bit of that. And now I sit around 170, give or take. But we're close. We're very close. Yeah, we should be. I mean, I hover between 168 to 172, depending on what's going on.

Yeah, I'm between 162 and 166, 167, based on what's going on. But yeah, the food thing, I would set alarms for the night to eat. I heard the strongman say that, and I'm like, oh, you got to do that. And it worked. It worked really well. I needed an extra meal in the day, another 500, 600 calories, and I just couldn't get myself to do it

during the normal hours. So I would set an alarm late because I was a night owl and just pound down another meal right before bed. Gant says, if you're looking to gain weight, peanut butter and jam sandwiches. That sounds good. Just do those all throughout the day all day.

Scant isn't usually wrong. He's been very helpful. He's been giving some tips on Strongman. It's been nice to talk to him. He's a hell of a resource. So you're in a little bigger place now. It's got to be a little easier to do some of your hobbies with the woodworking and leather working i'm assuming that had to be a lot

difficult a lot more difficult in a small apartment any belts any belts you're going to be making or i think i'm gonna give a big big career to run for his money of uh the uh crew belt maker he he gave all those free tips right he's it was Oh, who else gave all their secret sauce to... Oh, was that on... Oh, Tommy talked about when he... They did a video with Strength Co. And they were talking about their secret sauce on how they produce barbells. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm actually... That should be a good video when that comes out. Probably a month from now when they toured the uh the that factory but anyway no i i've done some like dress belts i've done a couple of those uh it's just it's a lot of time and effort but you know the new place that we have a more of like a workshop area i can do some tooling with with comp prep the past few months i mean all i do is comp prep it's all i have time that's it yeah i feel that i can't do much of anything uh so i've been i've been taking a break from that stuff but no i've really enjoyed that it was such a hands-on experience so much of my

life the past decade has been education and so exercise with sports and doing things with my hands, like woodworking and leatherworking, has been a great distraction. To follow up a belt comment last week, big Joey E. reached into my DMs this week after listening to the podcast and said that the leverage belt that we asked about that like landed flat was supposed to be lever belt, but it must've auto corrected or something. So that was a slight, you know, basically a followup on that because he reached my DMS about that. It made me chuckle. I was like,

yeah, leverage. I was Googling leverage belt as Chris was like, couldn't know what the fuck we were talking about. And there was like, there was like literally a lever. It was like a, like a,

a fabric key or a, I don't know, like a non leather belt that just the way like the clasp is, it's like we use leverage as the clasp, but I was like, is that what the fuck he's talking about? And then, yeah,

he said lever belt. I was like, yeah, that would have been more fun and more helpful than answer. Um, so one thing that made me chuckle that your, uh, partner had mentioned,

she said, uh, you're also into burning wood, but then it's in parentheses, not arson. Oh, I love Nicole. Yeah. Yeah. So I do some like wood burning art. So you have take like a soldering iron kind of thing with different attachments and you do little designs and whatnot. I've done a handful of things of that. I think that comes because I told her when I was little, I had this, my parents, I don't know why they gave me this magnifying glass, this like big detective style magnifying glass,

but not like a toy where plastic, like a glass lens and quickly you learn as a preteen teenage boy that that means you can make ants explode catch paper on fire in an instant uh so i had to quickly catch myself to maybe i need to dial that back before uh it bites me in the ass oh uh oh here's a good one so you've got some uh some some stand-up comedian uh background so what's uh how much of that have you done so i've uh semi-retired from that uh the scene in columbus is so significant and the crowd here is so different i do not dare but when i was in undergrad we had a open mic near where we were i went to a semi-small university and so it was more of a open welcoming crowd and i i did some talent shows when i went to cross-country camps in high school and i would do stand-up for that and did okay and so

came up with some new material and undergrad and tried that i really like it it's kind of the same vibe as the musical theater thing it's you know make people laugh make people have a good time it's just i love doing that but it's a kind of location dependent i it you really would be getting roasted out here so i don't i don't know i think that might be uh behind me for at least a while gotcha uh well speaking of things you love we got a very controversial thing we're gonna talk about briefly that you might have to get into a fight with the previous guest uh unless i'm completely misremembering the topic but uh didn't didn't laura hate van gogh or was that someone

else uh a different so it says here that you love Van Gogh. Was I completely... No, fuck. I botched it. It was Bach. That's completely different. Van Gogh was like an artist, right? And Bach is a musical person. Completely, yeah.

Not even the same wheelhouse. Yeah. He hates Johann Sebastian Bach. Lara. Not Lara. Yeah. There's a name there that I can't... Don't hate on the redheads.

We have the redded beard right here. Oh, I butchered that one that was anyway who doesn't love Van Gogh is that like the abstract art person semi abstract it's really like texturized in 3d that's what I'm super into we have a painting I did in our living room

that's the paint like has shadow like the light will cast shadow on it because it comes off so far and that's just like oh it's so cool to me and he does that better he did that better than anybody so nice all right i i okay it's it's time it's time so you like spicy stuff. So let's chat. Let's chat. We'll give Keith a second here. Now, what is your favorite go-to level of spicy?

So I think if you're a human being, you need to build up your spice tolerance to habanero. That's where the flavor is the most enjoyable and you get a high level spice you get past that they get stupid they're and also they typically taste bad they've lost flavor in this pursuit for capsaicin so i disagree disagree ghost pepper is where where my my mid-level is like when i'm like i want something really hot today i go to ghost when i want something i want to hurt i go to reaper i haven't tried pepper x yet but i don't eat them raw like a fucking psycho right like i just go and like find sauces that have them mixed in uh habanero is a very good scotch bonnet. It's a very, like,

I think even your average human should stand scotch bonnet. Yeah. I would say again, my statement is on me. That's why I think the general is. Yeah. I, my,

I think I talked about this, uh, Joey, my, my favorite salsa is miss Renfro's ghost pepper, uh, salsa. Oh my gosh. Hits itfro's ghost pepper salsa.

Oh my gosh. Hits it perfectly. Such a great salsa. Now, there's some comments here about when fast food companies label something spicy. They need to stop. I don't know if I said it on the podcast or if I just said it in general. I do think we need, like, I appreciate Scoville, but Scoville's hard to buy into. But there should be some regulation at some point on what we're allowed to call spicy. Because I'll get some, like, triple X spicy shit.

It's just Frank's. It's just Frank's. And then I'll get some. Oh this is kind of hot. And it's like insane Reaper pepper chili stuff. What's your worst experience. Going into a fast food place. And saying.

Give me the hottest you got. And being utterly disappointed. I can tell you mine within 30 seconds i feel like it was when the windy spicy nugs came back and i was so excited because i remember when i was little i loved them and i was like oh they're so spicy because it's black pepper that's what makes them spicy there's like thick black pepper going on them and i have that as an adult i remember like i got in line i was so ready for them and it didn't live up to any of my height from my childhood memory of it and i was so disappointed i'm sure others have been more egregious calling something ghost pepper and it tastes like ketchup it was popeyes popeyes ghost pepper wings

yeah i've been into those and it was just like, nah, nah, you're messing with me right now. There's not. They're ghost of a pepper. They're not ghost pepper. There's nothing here. I blame hot ones for their popularization of spicy foods. And then all the fast food places were like, ooh, people love this. Let me get on that train.

But they won't actually eat it if they get it. So we can't sell them that. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to give them what they call spicy, but we don't want them to return it. Right. So they'll call it ghost pepper,

but yeah, it's like, it's like 10% ghost pepper. Yeah. Seeds in, leave those seeds in there. Absolutely. I think my eyes are watering from all that.

That's just, I think the, the think the spicy chicken sandwich from Burger King is labeled accurately with mayonnaise on it to cool it for you no that's the original the spicy one has a little kick to it Joey always likes to talk the spicy food stuff which is fair because I get all my gym talk stuff.

So it is all good. You got a lot of stuff. There's a lot of organized information. And it's like, well done too. It's not just like run on paragraphs. I read through it like four times. Didn't memorize a single thing. Except the Captain America Speedo.

Love to hear about how that came out. Well, I haven't seen that. This is Lucasas i know this for sure i have no clue i have no clue who sent what all the font looks the same to me i can i i can already know oh okay i'll tell that one um and in high school we go to you know rural eastern kentucky we We go to lakes and caves and whatnot. Anyway, there's this one river we go to and everybody breaks out in their swimwear and I being

again that funny trying to make people laugh kind of guy I'm like, you know, I'll get a Speedo and I go on Etsy or Amazon or I don't know what and get something from china which is this captain america it's got like the shield on one of the cheeks and it is inappropriately sized and i was like this is fine this is fine and i i pull off and everything i'm in that um and then

i think at the time we were you know normally made a deal out of it but then a dude comes by who he's in a tube he's floating down the river he's got two behind him with a 30 rack resting in it and kind of floating with him and he was having none of it as he's boozing and cruising down the river. Mad at you. Cause you have a speedo on. Um, all right, I'm going to do a Rushmore.

Let's jump into a Rushmore. Cause you know, we're, we're Western Northeast South Dakota guys. So we have this game that we invented called Mount Rushmore that, um, totally invented by us. Uh, I want to hear your, your Rushmore of bracket famous Hogan's.

So give me the four Hogan's. They don't have to be famous. I just put that in there. But just like your four famous Hogan's. Gotcha. Okay. So I like being a Hogan. There are really not a lot of us it's it's it's kind of fun

yeah but so it's i'll be stretching to even get four um i'm named after the golfer ben hogan so the master is just coming up um that's kind of uh relevant i guess so he's definitely on there you can't forget the hulk uh he he is who i get called all the time your parents name you after hulk hogan and i'm like you know if i could grow that blonde hair and i could rock that style when i go bald maybe i would but uh he'll go on that list. Um, man, the show Hogan's heroes. Uh, that's, that's gotta go on there. Um,

I, I, that's a bit of my joke I do with my veterans on, uh, Hogan, like Hogan's heroes. And most people at the VA are, uh,

50 some year old men. So they, they get on that pretty well. Oh man. Oh, okay. I going to have to cheat. That's about who I would have done, too, except for the golfer. I don't love the golfer. Oh, man.

I don't know any of these people. You don't know Crocodile Dundee? Holy shit, Crocodile Dundee. I mean, what's the reference within that well his name is his name is paul hogan so it's his last name oh okay so that's it well i know paul hogan's last name it's not even his real name i know it was a terrible i actually don't know any famous or notable hogan first names i know. I don't think I know a person with a Hogan first name. Yeah, I don't.

Crocodile Dundee, there we go. I'll pull an audible. That works. I dig it. Alright. Alright. Well, I already pulled some of these unpaid and underrated out of here.

So I think we should jump into unpaid or underrated. Cause I think we've got a game that we have to play that I really think is going to take longer than we expect it to take. Probably. Yeah. I kind of been, what I've been dreading is like moving things along and I don't like to do that.

That's why it's like Keith asked some questions, but in my head, I'm just like, like and I don't like to do that. That's why it's like Keith asked some questions, but in my head I'm just like, like I don't want to do a two hour game. I have to work in the morning. I just want to hear, I want to hear a 90 second story about your, your new truck and what happened to it. Oh my gosh.

So get my first nice job, you know, able to afford a good vehicle. I get a brand new Toyota Tacoma. Love it. Love it so much. I have it for two days and I walk outside to go to work. First day of work and our tree in our front yard, limb fell off, came down, smashed the driver's side handle.

It's all it hit was just the handle, but absolutely obliterated it. the driver's side handle it's all it hit was just the handle but absolutely obliterated it um and i just i i'm so sad and angry because we've been trying to get our apartment complex to take care of that tree and i didn't uh and so i just go nicole you need to come do all the pictures and whatnot i can't i can't even and so she was sweet enough to do that for me, but that's the sad story of the truck. That sucks. Do you end up having to do a $500 deductible and just eat it or did, uh, yeah, basically that's what it's going to be. And I've been, I've been in such a like state where I filed all the claims, I got all done, uh, and I have the check for everything and I have two years to follow through with it. I've been again, 20 year old. Who's not on his stuff.

I have pushed that off till after the comp. And that is, it'll be a, a thing come May that I take care of. Nice. All right. Yeah. Let's do a,

let's do some unpaid and underrated. Do you want to try to top? I think it was Chris a couple of weeks ago that explained the rules to the listeners. Do you want to explain the rules or do you want us to do it? Oh, man. I almost just wrote down what he said because you're right. He did it better than anybody had ever.

I'll give it a go. Sure. Screw it. So we do it live. Yeah. I don't know why. When you said my brain and correct me if I'm wrong, it kept telling me Bill O'Reilly is not Bill O. It is. Absolutely is. Okay. I don't know why. brain and correct me if i'm wrong it kept telling me bill o'reilly yes not bill it is absolutely

is okay okay we just i don't know why i i was like i must be wrong because they don't know who he is what i mean yeah when he when he absolutely snapped out it was we'll do it live and it becomes it's from when i was a bartender right and like you would like you'd be having like a slow night and and then there's something like oh oh, I forgot to tell you. There's a bachelor party coming in. And they'll be here with about 30 people in five minutes. I hope your dishes are cut up. And you just go, well, fucking do it live.

What else are you going to do? You just commit to doing what you're going to do right now. And I love that that's become a thing on this podcast. I think I remember when I said it to Siri and watching her face, like she was in mid sentence and she stopped and was like, you're right. That's a thing. I'm going to like,

she just clued in immediately. Yeah, definitely. It is Bill O'Reilly. It definitely is the, there's no words on it. I'll fucking write it myself. What does that mean?

It comes from that video, but it is kind of like motivation like do it live when what are you gonna do not do it anyway sorry to interrupt no i appreciate it yeah so there's this little known game i i would say that it was created here uh known as unpaid and underrated essentially meeting if it's unpaid meh, if it's underrated, cool. That's the gist of it.

That's how I remember it. So we're going to be giving me some topics that are simulated and I'll determine if it's unpaid or underrated as in cool. And from there I get my druthers,ers of course the druthers are the important part and that is the most important part i thought of a game of a you know i'd debate on games it's called just your druthers um where you could only ride the line but i i two of your favorite things ride the line loser That would be really funny. Just give you things that you want to be definitive on.

But I was like, I'm too of a gym guy. No. Again, send those to me. Those will be really fun to fuck with people with. That's actually a fantastic idea. God, I wish I now kind of want to do that instead well we'll listen we're gonna you know stick to the program and not do it live today so we'll go and you know stick to stick to what we had written down so big hogan unpaid or underrated squat shoes raised heels basically

gotcha and so they are so popular at least I think like five years ago, I think the big shift has been back to barefoot or as low, low profile as possible. And so I would say now they're definitely underrated. And I, I couldn't, I couldn't lift without him. I mean, right now I'm kind of dealing with a tight hamstring and i almost kind of like dead lifting in them because it gets that pressure off of my heel it's i don't do anything heavy with them on uh but it just gets me in a nice seated comfortable position i i do most of my lifts with the wand to be honest yeah i i can agree with that i think i i don't know i couldn't imagine not having them i wish they made like an extra wide,

like comfortable shoe. Like I love my Addy powers and I have a second pair that I bought off eBay. That was like borderline brand new that I'll basically wear in 10 years when these kind of start like, you know, showing some age and like, maybe like if they ever wear out, like if you can,

I mean, you have to be able to, I'm assuming I'm going to wear a squat shoe out at some point. Cause I ended up, you know, I squat and bench in it and walk around the gym between sets and shifts. So, yeah, 100% agree with you on that. So, number two, Big Hogan, unpaid or underrated garage slope.

Oh, gosh. Okay. So, I mean, unpaid, you know. This can kind of be taken a lot of ways so uh i'm a personal opinion of get over it so it's just yeah who cares it's it's so insignificant 90 of the time if you have it that bad you have a garage gym that's set up not for lifting uh you just need to get over it turn so i always face one way so the slope is one way or the other so that kind of dictates maybe how you set it up but aside from that i mean put on some lifters it'll correct for it make it close enough i don't really level my flooring or anything just

that's too much no i know you you can't talk about your clients but is that something you tell them a lot of the time is just get over it's something it's something you've uh i've heard you say many a time in this episode so you know it's is that part of your uh is that more of the at home hogan talk it's called immersion and when something is genuinely a problem you just i could do it just get over it well you know i won't get too super clinical on the way i would spin that description in a clinical setting but no i do i i that is a get out of that office you two different hats i'm very much two different people all right how many uh yep i got one more don't be jumping in on me whoa whoa okay no the first one you already crossed off. That's not, that wasn't mine. So just so the listeners can hear our bickering.

Big Hogan, unpaid or underrated air fryers? Oh my. Unpaid. They were a fad a little bit, but I think they've died down. No, they're still the best thing. Anything that you like that's a treat that would have been in the oven that you would have made and always would have the soggy bottom side that made it not as good as getting an appetizer from like a restaurant air fryer makes it that on issue i love our air

fryer we have used i use it every day i i cook in it every day it's just so great never used one i don't want to give up any more counter space. My counters are literally overflowing with shit. I don't know what I would trade it out with. I don't know. It is an oven. It's just an oven. If you're struggling for space, maybe

not worth it. I do love convenience. Convenience is clutch, but I don't know. I need a bigger house. Alright. And now it's Joey's turn. A bigger house for you just means bigger gym and you know it. Well, yeah, but I have a poorly laid out kitchen. Ah, God, that leaves me to so much. You have the biggest gym of anybody I've met in our basement and your kitchen's poorly laid out.

I'm just, I'm lucky that I have a, I'm lucky that i have a i am lucky i'm lucky that i have a ranch with an unfinished basement like i don't i have a i literally have like a 970 square foot house but my basement is also 970 square foot and three quarters of it is a gym so if it wasn't if i had a split if i had a two-story house i'd have a fucking like 400 square foot basement i wouldn't have a gym basically so i'm very lucky that i'm like the only ranch in like the whole block basically so is there a bathroom when you're in your gym no well if you piss in the sink maybe but no all right so may 10th it's gonna look really fun okay unpaid or underrated training outdoors oh my gosh uh i i think joey you talked this we had another crew member talk about their start in covid with working out outside i i apologize i can't remember her name or

okay a big murph um i started my my new home gym so i had a home gym when I was in high school. But then after that, I went to commercial during college. COVID came and I live in a small two bedroom apartment. But one of the bedrooms is an office because I do clinical work in there. So I couldn't do a gym in there. I could have, but I've had some explaining to do. So I get a rack made by this fabricator in like Eastern Tennessee. rack made by this fabricator in like eastern tennessee and i tell them specifically uh make it to where it can be disassembled because i put together and took apart my whole gym setup every day throughout probably 2020 and then part of 2021 i had to carry all the stuff outside

stall mat included i cut it up into four pieces, would set it up. I would lift outside in our parking lot. And I did that. And that's how, when I spend all this money, I go, I paid my dues. I can get whatever I want. I proved to myself, I will continue with this. And so definitely all I have to say unpaid it was the most enjoyable time when I look back on it it was so great just seeing blue sky or being in the rain and having to figure it out

oh it's so great I think you meant to say underrated there oh yeah definitely I kind of missed dead lifting outside I kind of missed that which is when my rock is still outside for now. Like I said earlier, that might have to change. But yeah, I definitely miss deadlifting outside.

And discovery deadlift didn't help. That dude's stuff just makes me want to go lift in the woods all day, every day. It's such a great idea. I love the idea. It's like this physical challenge of i have to take it with me yeah into the site i there's something so mindful about that practice it it seems so therapeutic i would love yeah yeah he's uh he's a good dude and his stuff is fun to watch all right unpaid or underrated split level home oh gosh on unpaid yeah there we go i can remember it that way yeah we we currently

live in a split level home it's kind of cool that we have a garage and i think this came up in the discord at some point on is it a basement or is it a garage uh most of the walls are covered by dirt or home. Yeah. So it's sub except for the garage door. And it goes big walkout door. Yeah. And it's this giant slant to get out. It's the pain.

That's like in the winter. Oh man. There's videos. Yeah. It's it. Everything. There's no good layout. You end up not using one of the floors it's just you don't do anything in one of them um you have everything in the other so you have so much storage it's

kind of cool if you like storage space but man talk about having to pay for so much extra square footage and then not be livable space unpaid all right i think the last one is unpaid or underrated challenge coin oh man the thing i'm most excited for on uh the uh hall of fame and it's gonna be so long till i get anywhere near that same yeah i'm a year and a half out i think or a year out oh my gosh uh i have a little bit of a collection of challenge coins. I was in some mental health-related veteran organizations, and they do challenge coins. We do a challenge coin with our department that I give to veterans. And so I've slowly been accruing a collection.

And there's something to the ritual and the way that they're treated. It is super ceremonial and i i feel like there's a lot of things especially in like american culture that there's all a tradition really we kind of just make your own traditions and that's something that's very a collective tradition that's that's here and i i like that i've been invited to be a part of it and the fact that masonomics has some connection to where that originated from. I have a plaque in my office with where the challenge coin came from, the story behind it, and then my collection of it. And so here in, you know, five, ten years, when I finally spend enough money and make enough good friendship decisions, but poor financial decisions, I finally get that that other coin yeah i'm

excited for that for sure okay that i think you passed unpaid and underrated oh yeah yeah uh so definitely uh last thing before we jump into your game which you know everybody's just waiting is FMK. I think we have to do some FMK. So, FMK, energy drinks, getting dressed up, and I got the last one here, stupid people.

Hmm. This one's a bit of a, this one's a bit of a mulligan for you. Yeah, layup. Yeah, this is a lay up for you okay all right um you know i'm probably gonna go against what you might might guess i i really so my job is heavily about education but teaching and so i'm gonna marry stupid people um i have a i have a love for education um i'm going to uh k getting dressed up i like it i could i could leave it i could leave it behind i leave it behind me um and then i gotta have energy drinks because oh my gosh it's like one one more just one more i'll take one more

i i heard yeah you and i share our love of ghost me you and hannah of ghost energy drinks they're just the best they're just the best i had to get a monster the other day and i sure like monster and i was just so sad i was just like it's not a ghost i'm wasting this on when it could be a ghost was it the green monster no i i went uh day laborer and went white and uh're the best. Okay, so yeah, no. White Monster are the best if you have to have a Monster. Ghost Energy Drinks are the best Energy Drinks in the market. The white one was so... So I like the Green Apple Warheads from Ghost.

And it's so tart. Like, it's so in your face with i dislike that one so much i love it their sour ones are so bad to me yeah yeah the strawberry lemonade or pink lemonade whatever was amazing they had one uh god the bubblicious bring that back nobody from ghost is listening to this but i will just harass them constantly. Bring back the Bubblicious. And I haven't had the Sour Strips one yet, but I have the Sour Strips pump and pre-workout. They just really know how to make flavors.

And they put creatine in their fucking energy drinks. Like, what the hell is that about? You remember when, who's the other one bang bang got sued for like millions of dollars because they false advertised said they did and they really weren't yeah they were putting like creata or something like something stupid that they made

up yeah yeah definitely um all right i think you passed fmk all right you got a uh game you want to host and uh you know yeah All right. I think you passed FMK. All right. We got a game you want to host and, you know, let everyone know what, you know. This is going to take the longest. I got to get my notes open. Yeah, I got mine.

I got my spreadsheet. I need like a, I need a water, maybe a. Now we're going to have to figure out, we need to do like a disclaimer as far as like, well, that's close enough to this or this covers all barbells or this covers all plates. Like, is it to assume that you have collars or like we have to we have to get some of the baseline questions out of the way, I guess, because there will be some. So why don't we explain the game first? Yeah. So the game is a snake draft for favorite home gym equipment. Not if you can only have these pieces, what it'd be.

It's just whatever you like the most. We will do a snake trapping. It's a random order. I pre-randomized it. We'll go Joey, Hogan, Keith. And so we'll go Joey, Hogan, Keith, then Keith, Hogan, Joey. And we'll do that. We're selecting four draft picks. So each of you should have picked 10 or so beforehand in case something gets picked if it gets picked you can't pick it again um as far as the challenge yeah like things like collars or spotters or things like that just assumed that you'll have those so you

have safety and whatnot um basic stuff and again you all get to select for winners oh no that's like half of my shit um but the but the cool part is you know if you're listening to this and you're and you want to play along you actually get to because that's how you get to win one of these awesome wind breakers and i'll make sure i get some pictures of this tomorrow um is yeah does whatever you think of us one tag us tag the podcast use hashtag palo talk palo p-e-l-l-o-w-t-a-l-k you know to keep it sexy and uh we can definitely uh yeah hogan's gonna hook you up with a windbreaker, which is wild. Wild, man. So I want to make the funny, so I want to make it abundantly clear for the challenge, because there's a bit of the twist that I think makes it humorous.

Combine the four things into one exercise. So if you have a sandbag in your hands and you've got to find out how to also lift a barbell or whatever it might be you combine them all into one thing you make you know strong man to the extreme you make it weird maybe it's a medley whatever you got to do to fit all them in to one exercise that's the idea not like four lifts of each thing you make them i guess if you did a medley but because i was okay with the four lifts with the medley. But like I said earlier, don't hurt yourself. Don't put a bar on your back

full of 500 pounds and try and lift a sandbag or something. Don't hurt yourself for this. That would be stupid. But have fun. No. I'm first? Correct. You know this is coming natural stones um yep natural stones is going first i got one might have another one coming

love me some natural stones me and scants and and dodds uh heads up i'm probably heading to dodds after the lift hardly easy to go lift his natural stones like there you go i might be called a power lifter but i get the feeling 2025 is not going to be my power lifting era so natural stones is my first pick for the snake draft very very good pick who's taking notes here i am jotting some notes thank you because i am not okay i'm having to block key's face which means my face will get brighter because the white word document there we go okay no more keith it's just me and joey i'm here i got a pillow i got a pillow of his face. Oh my gosh. Oh man.

I heard about that. I, that's so cool. Um, all right. My pick now, of course you gotta go with a drink spotter. Number one piece of gym equipment right there.

You gotta have a drink spotter. Fuck. That was on my list too. Same. Okay. Okay. so hold on now there's two options yeah which drink spotter sir okay well is it broad enough to be both oh i know it is because my list has drink spotter other drink spotter because some of us have to in our gym i think with the challenge in mind keeping it broad is make it the easiest for people to play the game yeah i thought yeah we only got like an hour to do this so that makes sense cool so i'll go i guess just a barbell then

i wasn't going to say specifically a power bar but a barbell no no do do specific do specific bars yeah so yeah i think you do power bar okay power bar okay yeah like a stiff bar yeah stiff bar is fine and then since the snake draft i get to go again right sure that's correct uh power rack like are we not counting power racks power racks? Yeah, what kind of rack? You got a stand? You got a rack? You got a lift? You got a... But if the whole thing is to have people do it themselves, like three people will be able to do this

if we go super obscure, you know what I mean? So I have four posts squat rack, but I don't care if it could be anything that has J-cups and an upright. So random rack. Yes. Just random rack. I think counts just to keep this again under an hour.

Well, I think too, Keith, it's, they can pick any one of us to mimic our four. You would just, if you picked monolith, you'd just be making it to where only one person would do your, your list. Like Matt, Matt scans. Like sweet. I have have it this is my probably bonus points but so like a four post standard rack that kind of thing sure i don't matter okay just power rack okay all righty um i'm up here. And so with Dodd, it's very fitting you wore his shirt. I got to go with Yoke, the ultimate piece of equipment. A Yoke, love that thing.

I can promise you I'm touching his Yoke when I go there. Get rid of your racks. That's that you want a Yoke. It's great. Right, that wasn't in yoke. It's great. Right. That wasn't in my list. All right. Chalk.

I'm putting chalk on the list. If you're a strongman or a powerlifter and don't have chalk in your gym, I think that might be your wrong choice. I'm imagining now someone just, you know, strongman style covered head to toe in chalk for their video i'm giving out ideas now just like looking like powder yes just a powder movie and they're just that's fine that's awesome every move and there's their floor is covered it's just a mess i told you keith i going to take this very, very seriously. Then I'll tell us. Am I up?

Who's next? I went, yeah, so it went Joey, Hogan, Keith, and then Keith, Hogan, Joey. So who's next? Joey. Oh, I get to go again? That's the snake draft. But I've only gone twice. Yeah, fuck yeah, buddy. Now I get to go twice because I was first snake draft. I would have only gone twice. Yeah, fuck yeah, buddy.

Now I get to go twice because I was first. Snake draft goes up and down the snake. Gotcha. Deadlift bar. Like actual, like thin, whippy deadlift bar. Cool. You've had the Texas for a little bit now, right?

Oh yeah. Oh yes, I love that thing. I love lifting on that thing and it hurts so good. Right? I don't like it for volume work so anything over four reps I actually don't like using it

so I'll strap up just to make sure I don't have hamburgers for hands but yeah that thing is a cheese grater it's in your hands you're and it does make things a little easier it does make things a little nicer but i come up and i go hey buddy look at my hands and my son goes daddy that's gross it's Like my hands are just bleeding and in a good way, in a good way. When, when you pull, cause I know you're a conventional guy. Is your stance with your legs like a Brian Shaw wide where it's you're scraping still, or are you within the smooth on the bar?

Do you, do you scrape on the knurling when you deadlift? No, no, no no the bar doesn't touch me at all until it's on my thighs and i actually think there's something wrong with me for that i actually sometimes wonder if i'm if i'm losing gains for that because all the gains are lost yeah i just i again because i hear people they're just like oh it's right up there and it's on my knees and i'm just just like, not for me, and I'm still doing decent weight for my body weight, so I just sometimes wonder if

I'm deadlifting wrong. Yeah, I used to pull with that super wide strongman stance, and I would scrape the heck out of my shins on it, and I got a form change, and now it's, I drag, but it's the smooth, so it doesn't matter. No, I definitely don't drag, and I definitely am pretty close stance.

Okay. I did 370 for a couple reps on my last video, beltless, and now I just get, like I said, sometimes like, do I even need the belt? And that hurts, because I love my belt, but is it really necessary anymore? Wait until you get a belt fed belt. Then you can get back into it.

I've got one of those belts and. All right. So that makes you Hogan are next, right? Yes. Okay. So similar to your natural sounds and I raise you sandbags. That was on my, that was on my list of course it was now pea gravel or sand uh sand um but man i have some you can see them they're sloppy

filled and i hate them i hate these things and they're on my list but mine are bad i've used some tightly packed ones and man that's a game changer they're so much better i shared a story today from the company that makes the sandbag the one sandbag i have she's here she's a canadian company and she was like no you pea gravel is less dust less wear on your bag. She was the one that told me that I should use pea gravel. I have lifted. I actually do have sandbags. I've never shared them before.

I have two red sandbags with multiple handles for throws and tosses and carries. I've never really shared them on Instagram or anything. But my really heavy ones are pea gravel. Absolutely pea gravel. What's your heaviest bag? 150. I threw it on the... God, I can't even get it on a scale, but I think it's actually a 148.

My bad. All right, my turn. You'll be doing your next and your last okay shit oh yeah that's actually easy so is that four that'll be four yeah no I've only had three but then you we will come back

for the end of it okay so this is his last yes got it okay so he's gonna put me in the win. I'm going to go. This is one that I wouldn't have had on my list six months ago, but it's something I

fucking can't hit a heavy level without anymore. Ammonia. Fuck. I'm not going to be specific. It does not have to be obsidian code unpaid. It can be any ammonia of any type of cat piss smell, uh yeah ammonia for sure and my last one will be a iron weight plate iron olympic weight plate to fit on your power bar

in your squat rack very nice yeah i had ammonia on mine too because i was also doing the fuck around with accessories i kind of had to like change my whole list mid game when i kind of like registered how when you clued in how unserious i was well i can't i need to i want to actually have something people could do like i can't have like i had like other we can talk about in our things that didn't make the cut but uh yeah no we're good that's mine yeah so uh i'm man i'm playing like a live pick on this last one uh i have one i will talk about the things that are making the cut so i'll i'll go with this one um resistance band absolutely oh my gosh i i use them for everything use them for so many different things and they're just so easy and so much better than chains i had the chains first hate them their decoration that's what those are that's true actually i have chains and resistance fans i barely touch those chains

good call all right i guess i'm last oh fuck me i got a couple of them here uh you know i think the one thing I probably wouldn't go without, wrist wraps. Yeah, I kind of feel like those are the thing I keep saying I'm never going to need. And now that I'm doubting whether I need about my knee sleeves, I don't use that during warm-ups only for heavy. I think wrist wraps are the one thing that like they make me feel very comfortable that replaces i was gonna say barbell rescue code paid code unpaid it is on my list because you know i am i'm down but yeah definitely wrist wraps and i won't go brand specific or anything like that but yeah i don't think i can buy it without them i think i've never used them i've never gotten into them and i'm an exact i i don't i mean can bench without them. I've never used them. I've never gotten into them.

And I'm an exact... I mean, I've tried them. I just didn't like them. It was just so much work and they felt weird. I feel like you'd be able to put 10 pounds on your overhead press immediately if you put wrist straps on. But I don't know. People say that, but... Well, I do the split jerk when I do.

And so maybe that would help. I don't know. I can't imagine benching above two plates without wrist straps anymore. Like, that's just, fuck that noise. It hurts my hands to think about. All right. Well, do you want to do a recap? I think we should do a recap, and then we should do a bonus.

What was the one thing you wanted to say but didn't? Yeah. Because I just, yeah, I did mine with the barbell rescue, but that was more of a plug. should do a bonus what was the one thing you wanted to say but didn't yeah because i just yeah i did mine with the barbell rescue but that was more of a plug because i am a whore quote unpaid okay all right so go with everybody i put in the chat and so everybody can read theirs. So it's like a clean cut. So mine was, um, I got wrist wraps, a deadlift bar, chalk,

and natural stone. I don't sound like a power lifter in any of those at all. Like now that I'm reading back on that, God damn it. Is this a personality test? Is this, is this a personality test is this yeah this is it's a it's uh yeah it definitely is oops oops all strong man meme idea gonna do that

very good i can't wait to see how people can finagle all that together. So my, mine, my listing here was a, a drink spotter, a yoke, a sandbag and resistance band. Nice.

I got power bar, power rack, white plates, iron weight plates, and ammonia. I'll say Keith's is the most doable, iron weight plates, and ammonia. I'll say, Keefs is the most doable, but the hardest to

really kind of stand out. There's like a balance to that. You're going to have to really get creative. I've got a lot of neoprene weight plates in my house. Oh, that's a good point. You could get bumper. Yeah, I've got bumper bumper I've got neoprene I've got like a couple sets of

of iron plates but you can't do any of that like let's clarify some of the ruling you can't do anything other than like a pair of collars and a pair of safeties basically outside of what was on the list so like oh like Joey's people

can't do anything in a rack or with a bench or with plates of any capacity. Right. Lift those fucking rocks boys. Girls. Yeah. Yeah. Basically.

Unless for some reason they're eating spotter arms for, I don't know what, however safe, whatever. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. We don't even get hurt,

but I'm just like, that's why I had to kind of like pick mine and be like, all right. Cause if, cause if someone else had gone with like weight plate, I would have had to like throw in bumper. So I could like steal plates. Like I would have had to like put a caveat.

I can't wait to see somebody deadlift some natural stones. Watch it happen. That cause Denny counts. Denny counts. They're like, I'm just saying like if they see my brain went to, they took pea gravel and like taped it to the bar. Well, no, cause I, I didn't have sandbag you did no what they would have to do is they'd have to put natural literal if they put natural stones at the end of their deadlift bar and chalk up they're technically

doing my challenge yeah but if like they could get like a some kind of like big some apparatus that goes around the bar to holds some stones of some sort. Because stones could be as simple as fucking gravel, I think. That's what I'm saying. When is it a stone and when is it a pebble? When it's in a bag. It's in a bag. It's a sandbag. That's not a sandbag.

Yeah, I think you could scotch tape a rock to the end of the deadlift bar and do a deadlift from the floor and you're good that that counts. But we can't tell people what to do. I just want to throw some ideas out there just to kind of spark the creative. The three of us, do we have to replicate our own as well? I'm assuming in a video, I think that would be something we have to kind of challenge herself to do. Sure thing.

Challenge by choice. Please don't. So what did i sign up for so just like as a side like what was the one in your list that you really wanted to say like what's your favorite thing that you wanted to say but you didn't get to for me currently axel but i know how many people have it. 100 people might do this, 50 people might do this. 10 of them have an Axel. I need to go with something more broad, but Axel has been my new favorite toy

as of the last couple months. I know you've been smashing. You talked about not being able to get 200 on Axel, and you're already doing it. Just shy. Yeah. My pick, again, I got logistic with it um it's i i mean it was almost at the top of my list mars bar i love the mars bar so much i'm a low bar squatter it just gets

so comfortable it's a home gym you can do so much volume with it and it's not really a big pain on your back or your elbows or anything i love that thing you also low bar squat without wrist straps that hurts my wrist as well fuck there's so many things i wear wrist straps for that like but i'm also 15 years older than you so that's probably part of it oh god um i definitely i've got a few of them too um yeah well toast plays like god damn it i'm so mad about how much i love those from barefoot shoes oh those toast plays that she gave me and she's like yeah just try these and i was like no i'm not these are going to be stupid and then i tried them on and they're the greatest thing ever um but i i do think a fat bench is the one thing i would put on there that like i was lifting on this bodybuilder amazon like adjustable bullshit bench and i hated bench for

so long and then i went to bells of steel and bought this big fat comfortable like big thick bench and i was like wait a minute bench is great so i do think a fat bench is uh for people who really want to increase their bench that's definitely worth looking at and and paying attention to um and again barbell rescue i can't actually imagine how again like I had this like shitty toothbrush thing I was cleaning my barbell with and then finally got our code and bought a barbell

rescue I can't I would tell everybody to buy one of those it's genius it's definitely something that should be on your Amazon wish list at a minimum yeah he's on Amazon you wouldn't be able to use our code on Amazon not in Canada but

I got deadlift jack on there too get your deadlift jacks yeah I had a bench lap pull down dumbbells buffalo bar cadillac bar kettlebell extension leg curl deadlift jack how much kettlebell do you do i used i did a whole i mean i've done kettlebells a lot when i worked with a personal trainer like like 10 years ago and stuff

i think i've swung like a 120 or something a couple times i was a heavy bastard uh but i haven't really i don't know i i touch a kettlebell twice a year now. I love kettlebells. I wanted to put blobs. But I was like, oh, here's how you guarantee no one does your list. We're going to get Rob from Vintage Weights who does not listen to this. It's Tanner and Keith and Rob. Yeah, you're right. And for clarity, too, I'm sure we talked.

We already said it in one of our heads like they have to pick one of us and only do that they can't submit three times it's okay yeah yeah no no no druthers yeah comedy counts so if you're having some fun doing it that'd be great too that's kind of my vision is that you know it's there's a lot of points for creativity. So I'm going to throw down a challenge for Tommy and Tanner. You are not eligible to win, but I do want to see both of you submit a video,

please. Uh, I know Tanner, we're here, here, here, this, and probably, uh,

you know, partake, uh, hope to mention it to Tommy, but that'd be cool to see them, uh, you know, throw some stuff on their personal IGs.

If they want to participate, we would love that. that oh why can't they win well just just like rigged man i don't know well they can they can participate we just like what if they're what if they're the only people that actually participate and then we just have to decide between the two of them because like everybody else is like these fucking idiots I don't want to do their challenge I don't want to lift on Joey's wrist wraps deadlift bar

chalk and natural stones and they're like nah screw that hippie well we did say they had to be a supporting member to win and last time I was checking on the game they my pan the three dollars a month so you know they're the uh founding fathers but they don't have to use they don't have to use all four of our things right uh i think you have to at least be in the video like i would so that's the thing too like can you like just have the deadlift bar sitting on the floor and then just pick up a natural stone with chalk and wrist straps and call it a day like i don't know let's let hogan has to decide that i would

say it needs to be included in some manner and if you're doing strongman style making like a some kind of event out of it i think that's permissible but it's it's got to be like an exercise and so there's creativity there but you gotta be touching each thing knowing you're gonna touch each thing knowing how little i know about strongman what's a medley you have a couple things back to back to back no no okay i know what a medley is thanks keith but like how many is like the maximum how many is the maximum oh three or four I don't think I've seen four there were four at the amateur so maximum

four clips so if you want to take each one of our lifts and do one of them each time it better be fucking amazing but if you can somehow incorporate all four into one or two

videos we'll take that into account too no i think yeah i think that supersedes all yeah it's one video it's in supersedes all its creativity in one video you can edit the reel to where they cut into one another yeah i'm gonna say like yeah like i don't want to i don't want anybody deadlifting natural stones on the deadlift bar that's fucking wild well that's your fault for picking that you knew the game all right well that's a creativity because if it's because i think i feel that if it's you can do all four videos and someone could just like sit there and like sniff ammonia and that's a video like i don't know that's that's's fucking hilarious. I love all the sausage talk about this.

Everything's fine, Keith. Everything will be fine. Hogan will put it all in text for us and we'll make a post and go to that. We'll put fine details to be determined when you're listening to this, but go check Instagram out.

The rules will be there. If Hogan types them up and sends us to us and we can post them. to be determined when you're listening to this, but go check Instagram out. It'll be, uh, the rules will be there. Yeah. If, if, if Hogan types them up and sends us to us and we can post them. Otherwise, none of this is happening. Yeah.

I'm going to just give him the login and let him do it. Cause I'm busy. As, as we like to say, I'm busy. Yeah. We're super serious geese about this competition. If you're,

if you're even a fraction against the rules you're not winning have a good time have fun every participant will get a sticker pack but you have to come get it at the lift because I'm not mailing it absolutely fuck that

because I'm showing up with some new sticker packs at some point and yeah have fun. Don't hurt yourself. And like, don't listen to us that much. If you just want to just fuck around and lift with, if you want to do a shot of ammonia in a deadlift bar and a blip and a blip, like, just do it.

Just, we'll figure it out as we go. Like, I'm not, I'm not going to be that strict about one video, one watch, 30 seconds. I'm not going to be that strict about one video one watch 30 seconds I'm not going to be that strict and I'll probably spend more time doing it because Keith is busy sometimes this week no my parents are in town

this week and next week we got to leave for home gym con like Thursday would be good stuff yeah I have fuck all to do so I'm definitely in a more privileged stance to judge this than you are i've had it and i'll just uh put my seal of approval on the one person that yeah i know i'm definitely gonna send you and be like this guy chose your thing he's the one you're gonna pick shut up let's show it off again this is what you're you know all the oh goodness

no uh if you could somehow get a picture of you in it. Oh my gosh. There we go. We'll get some better pictures but this is what you're clamoring for. What we'll do is we'll all go out and take rascal style pictures like they did with I saw that face.

We're all going to do that and we're all going to go just like pose in our windbreakers. Hey, I actually I actually kind of think the next massonomics drop is a is a rascal collab I don't know about that

I heard Tanner saying he's changing the game it's the biggest thing I think something's coming that like the biggest handshake heard around the world might be a part of it i just want the crispy boy banner to get a sneaky link for that in the discord and just buy that because i've got like a perfect spot for it that'll like be able to phase out an old banner that i don't really want to support anymore i have no clue what you're talking about do you do if you don't have sneaky links we don't know we don't do

then anybody listen to this doesn't get a fine like fucking fucking lawyer isn't listening to this all right I'm gonna be an AC synthesis come from this podcast

well then I had one will announcement promo I'm trying to coordinate at home Well then. on so we can do a toast it will be a great little video and clip jesus uh if you come in there all 13 of us and you were you know made financial decisions like i bring your mug that is maybe the sound will register that's oh my camera went with it but we're actually good on time i think if you wanted if you had any i know we talked about maybe cutting out any of your other stuff but if you have like 10 minutes or so you wanted to i mean i'm cool with yeah let's go i i've got another right at two hours i think so yeah if we can keep it under like 245 i think would be good yeah i got a few questions i'll start with the ones i had

um for for both of you anything for me specifically? Oh, oh yeah. Oh, sorry. I wasn't even looking at the screen. Yes. Um, Keith. So you, all the talk about the spreadsheets. We love the website. We have legitimately used it.

The random to be able to watch a movie. Uh, cause they'll randomly pick one. It will go. Well, yeah, the orange glaze. Uh,

yeah. So we've used it like, we don't know what to watch and we'll go random. And it's like we're gonna watch this one oh wow there's some weird shit on there i can imagine well we've we've definitely cycled a few times we know we're not watching that that's uh that is one way we got to watch basketball um that did um so anyway at least one of us did with the spreadsheets my question is does your wife or do you for her have any spreadsheets

or any couple or home spreadsheets that you have yeah there are like we have like a car maintenance one fuck I can actually look at one point I had like a whole like house project thing together shit really i think what else is really it was just uh like that's some medical stuff where i have like

certain dates and stuff set aside but as far as something that she's actively oh i don't i shouldn't share this but they're hypothetically someone might have a spreadsheet with every username and password they've ever created in their entire life and have it in alphabetical order, but it wouldn't be me and my wife. No, we don't have that. Okay.

But yeah, that's that. That is a daily looked at spreadsheet. I just want to know if the, the infection had spread. she could give a fuck less. Okay. Okay.

Outside of the one I mentioned, she does not, I couldn't get her to fucking make a spreadsheet for life dependent on it and she'll have like notes randomly on her phone and like there could such easily be a document on like google docs and then you can access it from every fucking device you own and it's like i try to like harp on her like like your resume why is your resume not why do you only have a resume on a flash drive on a computer you don't have anymore or something it's like it's like this shouldn't be that difficult. Just put it on Google Docs and then it's just there forever.

And then you can save it as a PDF or a word. And then it's just just forward that in an email. It's because she was just was like doing stuff with a resume recently. I was like, it's so easy. But yeah. Gotcha. No, she has not adopted it like I have. Well, you pull the weight.

That's all in that yeah i think i do enough spreadsheeting for all of western new york i was curious yeah i was curious like how would if you both have them does that does that like the battles collide with style and approach just like you there's basically like four or five i so i have one with all my gym equipment and like a rough appraisal of it and i'm basically if i die like don't fucking sell my shit for 10 cents a pound like try to get at least like 75 of like the listed price because it's like fucking like she'd be if she'd sold my gym for a couple grand she'd be fucking eating like 20 000 that she could make out of it so yeah that's the joke of fear of mine

it's like you know leaving her with that gym to deal with and like, Oh God, if I die, she's stuck with all this. They're just borrowed. You don't own it. Just use for now. Yep.

Yep. Yep. Um, okay. I had one for Joey. I'm listening. Um, Mount Rushmore or movies.

Okay. Rosemary's Baby is at the top. It has to be. He's the one I've watched the most and appreciated the most. Paranormal Activity for sure.

Insidious is up there. Absolutely. And probably the Blair Witch Project. The original Blair Witch. Yeah. Definitely going to put that right up there. Now there's one I've talked about. I don't know if I've talked about it on the podcast.

It's called uh bone tomahawk yes about that and how disturbing it is don't watch that i watched it immediately after you said don't watch it what don't listen to me it was it was fine um it was what me and nicole watched it we were we kept waiting for we know what you're talking about when the thing happened but we were expecting the whole movie to be that scene no that's not the thing

can I tell you the number one thing in that movie that bothered me the number one thing that absolutely sits in my mind about that fucking movie and it's not the guy getting sawed in half did you see the women in the tribe oh yeah yeah yeah yeah okay stakes in their eyes arms and legs cut off just broodmares that absolutely sat with me so awfully that that movie is the that that's the reason i hate

that movie the dude getting cut cut in half like yeah that sucked that was gross and it was definitely graphic but it was the thing i saw there which i'm not going to repeat that told me more about that tribe than them eating that dude that i was just like i'm uncomfortable forever now with that that's nope not for it i'm again not for it oh yeah that that was the one scene in that movie and i i think that's the first time i've said that out one scene in that movie, and I think that's the first time I've said that out loud since watching that movie. That was definitely the thing that

made that movie not good for me. Anyway. You picked your rational, yeah. Rosemary Baby, Parallel Act parallel activity insidious flare which project the original that's a that is a great list the original paranormal activity oh the original yeah yeah yeah the second one was really good but i think it relied a little heavily on some like technology stuff but the first one was like a string couldn't move that door and scare the

shit out of you that was the the movie. I got home. I was kind of dated. I'm like, I must have been early in high school. And I went home and I was terrified. And I was like, I'm tired of being scared. Exposure therapy time. I went in our attic. I turned off all the lights and sat there until I wasn't scared anymore.

And I am now not scared of horror movies. It's just I desensitized myself. I credit that movie with making me not a fearful person of movies. Yeah, gore doesn't again, does not attract me. I think we just learned that. Gore is not

the reason I watch movies. Disturbing images. I don't like the hostile movies. I don't like the purge. I don't like that kind of stuff where it's real people doing real things to real people. I don't really enjoy that. So the horror movies that are like psychological and spiritual and the shit that just is like you're unsure. I love the unsureness of things.

That's definitely where my horror movies come into play um there's another one that's uh i don't know if i can remember the name of it morgan hates it i can't watch it with her in the house sinister yeah those are fucking disgusting but like genuinely kind of scary to an extent right yeah the one that always gets me is strangers strangers just yeah pure old home invasion just in the line why us because you're home oh it gives me chills saying it like that is just pure primal fear right there. Modern day terror. But also stupid. The dude has a gun, points it, doesn't use it, and then is surprised that they overcome.

No, shoot when you're shooting. So anyway, yeah, definitely a stupid movie to an extent, but also fucking terrifying because you don't know how you'd act in that scenario. You'd think you'd know how you'd act because everybody's the main character in their own head, right? We're all hyper-masculine, scary men in our own head until shit happens, right? right and then suddenly somebody's telling you to put your cart back and you're the coward of this scenario so i'll show no go i'll show no go good um i'm getting canceled from this podcast tonight so i had a question for both of you. Um, I was actually pretty excited for this one. If the two of you still had to do a podcast together, but it could not be lifting or massonomics related. What would you two pick? And each of you could kind of like pick on your own.

Or if you see if you're on lined up, what would you think you two could do if you had to do a different topic? Probably just get on there and do uh what grinds my neural and bitch session for 45 minutes once a week or something but i couldn't i couldn't do a three-hour like that's hard because like that's such a i don't know that would be my yeah that's off the cut that'd be one i'd have to almost like think about and heart like more time oh man i don't know something better comes up i'll spit it out definitely uh lifting motivation because i think both of us have a thousand reasons why we shouldn't and we have a million reasons why we do uh and traffic i think if keith

and i decided to talk about other drivers for even a few seconds it would go for hours hours because i think both of us drive a lot and both of us hate every other driver in the world except us is that your main character moment my main character moment is it kind of is like every once in a while you're just like you can use your signal tell me what you're doing but who am i in that scenario right i love the idea of uh the other podcast being the weather and traffic we have our morning report right here actually we can do something just like literally just google like uh i could just

mention one american thing that he wouldn't fucking know about and he could mention one canadian thing that i wouldn't know about and we just talk about canadian verse american shit like because that seems to be a weekly that we talk about that at least once every two episodes anyway well except that that doesn't really apply because then you got americans and canadians both going well i didn't know about that right because we're just so like you and i are geographically like like us yeah and then the rest of the people are on the other side of a continent that is gigantic yeah right it doesn't have to be like regional to me or i mean it could just be like, I don't know, as an American

representation of this random thing in Canada. I'm going to get back to you later on. I'm sure something will hit me in the next month. Oh, that would have been a perfect answer. I love the idea of this baking for a month. This hard-hitting question

just comes to you. It will bother him for a bit too. I'll probably follow up. I was supposed to follow up on Chris's. What was one event? What is one like the digital media thing you could redo or something? And I was like, I was like,

I think I said like playing a video game and I like, I told him I'd get back to him. I'm like, I never was like, I don't know. I'm pretty content with that answer. Honestly. All right. It was good. That was fun.

That was absolutely fun. I think people are going to enjoy this one. I think that's cool. That was the first time we actually let people listen on for a little bit. We've never had more than two people watching for 20 minutes here or there. I think that was pretty nifty. for like 20 minutes here or there so i think that was pretty nifty to i think more importantly i think more importantly i've never had anybody um that got me so excited to record as hogan did over the past couple of weeks like you know like not to say that i'm never not excited like yeah i might have to take that back roll that back a little bit but like man i was so excited to be on

here tonight you had this like setup you had this competition you wanted to do like you had all of these things and i was like i can't fucking wait to present this to the crew and now we've got this competition we're doing we got we have varsity jackets hey austin turner green shorts guy you're not listening we got our jackets bro win the competition see what happens right like there's just these things that like i was so excited to hear uh but very uh importantly i think i finally came to the decision that mostly squat videos is an ai um meme generated yep yeah yeah like i was i was on instagram just scrolling and i was finding this dude and i was just like like me like like lifting meme motivation and it was just fucking just ai and i just thought how easy that is. How easy it is to just write AI. Like, take sitcom, put lifting motivation on it, post. And so I want to congratulate MostlySquadVideos for being an AI video page.

I mean, he's done really good using Chat chat gpt to write all this text for him well we'll see when he finally gets on this fucking podcast yeah i don't know i'm tired of you know i think i'm gonna take him off the uh future crew you know list that i have there on that spreadsheet just because it's like i'm tired of asking him every couple days. It's like you're going to come on and he always bails. Bullshit. What show is that from, man? What show is that from? So anyway, Hogan,

see us out, man. Where can we find you? You can find me at Hogan underscore Jim on Instagram. Nice. Everyone, make sure you go follow him there. I'm Big Keith. KeithHoneyCat73. Go follow me at my orange gym and a wine cellar.

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