Unpaid And Underrated - 051 : Lactose Inhibitors

Episode Date: April 30, 2024

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Sam. They dive right into great topics like chest incisions, the science of brain freezes, mulch, giraffes weevils, scuba, LHLE Classic Strongman Showdown, and a big F.U. to Nate Links Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @thundergod.42 (https://www.instagram.com/thundergod.42/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Sam.

and welcome back to episode 15 of the unpaid and underrated podcast a podcast by crew for crew i'm one of your hosts big keith joined as always by my co-host here big joey hello this light is fucking bright give me a second here and this week we're also joined by a special crew guest big sam thunder burke maybe under burke nailed it nailed it it's thunder not funder it is thunder oh man that makes sense with the with thunder god being your uh your ig thunder oh i've been calling him thunder god that's good stuff uh so yeah let's just dive right in as always what is uh what are you drinking over there big sam i've been saving this one for a while we got our uh trogues brewing the mad elf grand crew wow nice nice Nice. 12% chocolate cherry beer.

That says Cru, C-R-U. Very nice. It does. I had to get a four pack while I was there. Nice. Let me correct that. Is that a stout or a porter? What is this?

I don't even know what this is. Well, if it's a... Belgian cherries? They don't say know what this is. Well, if it's a... Belgian cherries? They don't say. Alright, if it's a stout, it's gonna explode in your lap. We'll find out. We'll do it live.

Nope, no explosion. No certain explosion on this show. I'm rocking out. I've got the second of the two that I had of the Olipop brand. There's like the ones that cost like $3 a pop. This is a Dr. Goodwin. It's kind of like Dr. Pepper, just someone poured some cherry cough syrup in it. So it's not horrible, but it's not great. But at three bucks a can, I would I would.

Yeah, I would drink a bubbly over this probably. But it definitely has like a cola taste. Like I'm just like I'm drinking a legit cola, but for $3 a can. Fuck that. I've got some PC sparkling water and some Keith's and I want to make a point of order. A point of fucking order. Big Murph today

posted Dr. Pepper coconut flavor. And I just want to say, uh-uh, straight to jail. I hate coconut, and I love Dr. Pepper. I hate coconut everything. I will adamantly discard coconut everything.

I'll try it once just because I have to, but I promise that's not okay. That's just not okay, man. It does sound kind of gross. One thing that I don't love coconut by any means. I never got a way to get it, but we've been getting these little ice cream sandwiches from Wegmans that have like instead of it being a dairy, it is like a coconut ice cream and it doesn't taste bad. Like you wouldn't if you didn't tell someone it was a coconut ice cream bar. They just be like, oh, this is just a miniature ice cream sandwich. They're really fucking good, surprisingly. But messing with Dr. Pepper, because wasn't Dr. Pepper's thing

like 27 flavors or ingredients that go in it? So then adding coconut. I'm okay. I'm 23. I'm okay if you want to mess with Dr. Pepper a little. Add some cherry. Add a little vanilla. Add something good. Add a little vanilla. Add something good.

And you add coconut. I bought these hydration sticks from Ghost. And they were called Ocean Water. And I was like, ah, that sounds kind of cool. I bought two bags like an idiot. And sure enough, slightly pina colada. But not enough that i'm mad about it it's actually kind of good because i think it's like if you added blue raspberry to a pina colada but coconut dr pepper like murph you gotta save me one of those and bring me one in july

because um as you just talk shit about it and say you'll never do it it's like well no i said i'll try it once i'll try it once as i am screaming at big keith who has an announcement to make about the live tired live easy that he already broke on instagram guy comes on our show notes okay so i was gonna hold out but then jake had posted it in discord already so at that point i was like well i don't want to you know know, and it actually, I think it's a, it's a joint Sam and Keith announcement, if I believe. Yeah, we're both here. Yeah.

So we were both signed up for power lifting and I don't know if it, did you just, okay. So I'll tell you, I saw Jake post basically there was one open, uh, the novice big men or whatever it was available this morning. And I was like, Ooh, maybe, maybe do that instead. Because everyone's giving me shit about how serious I am at powerlifting meets. And I acknowledge that. I am an asshole at a powerlifting meet. I'm not going to have, I'm not going to be your friend at a powerlifting meet.

I'm only focused on my lift and my total and going nine for nine and not hurting myself and having a fuck. Because that is what makes me happy. But I don't want to spend fucking $ to go do that again necessarily i already did that once and then i can see that double the double platform was kind of like a turn a small turn off just because like i don't know like i'm sure i'll do the power to meet next year and i'll love it and have a great time but for this year i've just everything's been very stagnant in my life i want a little bit of change this skill allowed me to buy some more shit for my gym so yeah i got signed up for the lift hard

live easy strongman show uh so yeah me and chris mark are going to come out and do that together uh we train together and compete in the same division so it's going to be awesome super excited uh definitely have a new outlook on how this summer is going to go in the next three or four months so uh and sam uh something similar happened to you buddy uh yeah kind of so actually i'm coming back to strongman back way back before it was announced i was on the original list of strongman competitors so i thought so but then it filled up and they said all right how about you just do powerlifting and uh i guess before he even announced it on the discord jake reached out to me and said, hey, you want to do Strongman instead? But apparently I had to drop the powerlifting to do it.

So here we are. Nice. Yeah, I was. And I for a second there, I thought about going like before I reached out to Dave to officially say I was pulling out. That's what she said. Well, I guess not. That's what I said. Maybe nonetheless, before I reached out to David XBC to say that I i wasn't gonna back out i debated on very briefly doing a binge only but like the idea

of then i would still like i don't know i wouldn't get what i wanted if i did that as far as like i want to have a silly goose time i want to be able to watch all you assholes lift all morning and then uh you know go out there for two hours have some fun and you know drink some beer afterwards and i'm super looking forward to it. It's going to be awesome. I cannot log press in the basement, which sucks. I can axle, but I can't log. I'm going to get a log and I'm going to do it in the driveway or the garage and buy

a sandbag to just replicate the stone. Fill it with pea gravel. Yeah, I'm not sure what I'm going to fill. That'll be the big debate is what does the no wine cellar fill their sandbags with. I'm not sure what I'm going to, that'll be the big, that'll be the big debate is what does the no wine cellar fill their sandbags with? Uh, but yeah, um, I'm stoked. Metal shavings. Metal shavings. Yeah. That's pretty funny. Hey, handmade metal shaving. Um, I've been doing this thing where I keep just dropping that I'm doing the announcing for the strongman at the Live Tired Live Easy and I've been doing that now for like two months

when everybody's like oh is Gino not doing it? I was like no I'm doing it but like naturally I'm not I have not been called up or asked or anything but Dodds seems to be pushing for it and I was like well hold on now I gotta stay sober I'm not too into that

but that's been pretty fun Wait you gotta stay sober i'm not i'm not too into that um but that's been wait you gotta stay sober to it now no yeah well maybe you're gonna get you would get everyone's names wrong regardless i've gotten no i would get i would get nobody's names wrong but i would get everything about them wrong uh that's why scantz is gonna be there because scantz is either gonna be as drunk if not drunker than me to make it better. But yeah, that was a funny thing today. I was like, no, I'm doing it. And Dobbs was like, yeah, that's a good idea. And I was like,

oh no, I'm actually not. I'm just planting that seed until somebody gives in and says I can do it. It's going to happen right after the tug of war, right? Yeah, right after the unpaid and underrated massonomics tug of war yeah yep yep things that may or may not happen in july i mean last time we were there i got to be

the i got to be help with the barefoot aerosonomics unveiling like that was kind of neat right there's a there's a lot to do even if you're not competing right if you just show up and just like yeah if you just show up and you want to have fun at like a massonomics event i assure you i did not compete last year and i had so much fun and if you show up and you don't want to compete but you want to just come i'm probably going to hand you my phone at some point and go go do unpaid and underrated stuff right like and massonomics tagged me and then they were like hey man can you go get people to help us out with this like if you're there and you're just like there to support you're still going to have a fun crew time um when i saw your announcement i was like i swear to god if this fucking guy is

not showing up i was so mad i game i really did but it was since it since it started in discord and jake kind of ran with it to you know help help with his pub of it it was just like ah fuck now i kind of i mean but i guess if i announced it on the podcast i would have i would have been a hard time sitting on it all the way till tuesday but uh it was so nerve like i i so i saw it around seven o'clock this morning right when i left the house i think by by the like i'm not happy to admit this, but I think I spent the whole drive basically thinking about it for about five minutes. And then I was like, all right, let me, let me call my coach. He didn't answer. Let me call Chris, talk to him real quick. He didn't answer. Let me

call my wife, you know, bounce it off her brain. It was like, you know, where I was like, do you really think I should do this? You know, these, these are the reasons I think I should, these are the reasons why maybe not the good idea. Uh think i finally you know i talked to two people you know i think i did end up talking to chris and my coach and then by then i told jake i was pretty much gonna take it none of them an issue of trying to get signed up because i kept trying to go to iron podium because jake was just like yeah go sign up and then i was like i didn't realize i had to go to the fucking masonomics website because then he said well tanner's gonna send you the link and then tanner just sent me the thumbs up and said,

Oh yeah, it's good to go, go buy it. And I'm like, okay, on iron podium, all I do is hit fucking register. And it just goes back to the landing page.

It's not fucking working. And then I was like, I got to go. Like at that point I had major drama going on all day at work. So I had like, once I was like there for five minutes, I basically had to like go into corporate mode and like deal with shit. And,

uh, didn't look at my phone again till lunch and then talk to Tanner briefly. And I got it figured out and, uh, yeah, I'll signed up ready to go into corporate mode and deal with shit. And didn't look at my phone again until lunch. And then talked to Tanner briefly and got it figured out. And yeah, all signed up, ready to go. I already messaged someone about a log locally. But I'm going to wait until after home gym con to see if I want to go bougie and spend $600 on some fancy rogue thing or something. $600? There's a guy up here.

There is a guy up here in Canada. You're in just a couple hours north of me who makes custom wooden logs. You want to go real bougie? Let's do a $1,200 log. Oh, he's frozen. Fucking moving on. What are you wearing, Sam? What am I wearing? I am wearing my contrabandband shirt courtesy of fellow crew big jake the snake very nice that is the they're looking for years and uh you finally came through that's the most coveted shirt coveted coveted and like yeah going on with everything going on people just back that's the one everybody wants and of course i imagine i'd enjoy the story of like how they couldn't sell them and then as soon as they went contraband we were all like no that's the one we want i love that story um i'm wearing my they call it strong man not smart man shirt i saw that

uh that is based on nate calling me technically or not a technical guy because I couldn't figure out how to reframe some posts on Instagram. Yeah, you guys are blowing that chat up today. I was like, yeah, fuck off. I lift rocks. I used to do social media and stuff. Now I lift rocks and discs. I don't do shit.

Yeah, I had to pass the baton to Joey this week on Instagram. I'm killing it. I think I pushed us over 400 followers. Finally. I did that, didn't I, you fucker? No, it was $3.99. We must have lost a couple. I shared a story a couple days ago

that we're actually... You're just being a prick. Fuck off. No, we were at $3.99 and I was like, I'm going to push this over for part of that's true yes we have 400 followers is the only thing true but anyway anyway this shirt is a direct fu to nate everybody likes to f you nate like you're calling me not tech not a technical guy no i'm not i live shit and put stuff back down again i'm rocking out the uh barbell rescue shirt tonight in honor of uh big

kim came out with a new product i don't think it's live on the website yet it is but it's on instagram at least i know yeah i know he's been so i've been i've been talking to kim about this for like over a year uh so it's a it's a it's a barbell lubricant oil. So, uh, an odorless three in one, if you will. So if you're like me and your workout in the basement and you don't want your whole fucking house to smell like dog shit after you use three in one oil on your vintage plates or on your barbells, yeah, get a odorless oil. And there's really nothing on the market currently. There was a company that made it, uh, and they went out of business like four or five

years ago. So he, uh, you know, you know got this got this he's been working on this for a while and it is uh should be on his website in the next couple weeks i'd imagine maybe even by the time you hear this uh i know he was having it ready for home gym con so does our code work on the new product it should i'm gonna say that it does and if it doesn't then i retract that but i i it would you know because carl used it on like hoodies and shit because he has some merch he has t-shirts and hoodies so it should work on everything I can't imagine it's not going to work

on one of his SKUs so yeah code unpaid I think it's just called barbell rescue lubricant oil I'm not 100% go find it yourself but it's definitely will be on the website in the next couple weeks real technical name speaking of our code did you guys happen to see what went up in Massanomics Gym today?

Yeah, that was pretty sexy. Looks nice. It does. So there's finally an unpaid and underrated banner in the Massanomics Gym. And, you know, I had told Tanner, hey, what's it going to take to do this? He was like, I'll just do it. What do I do? And I was like, well, just message the guy and tell him you want one of ours

because four of us or something have it already. And I think there's another one coming. I think there's another surprise person that's going to have that banner up in their gym pretty soon. And I don't want to put that out there, but that was definitely part of what me and Tanner were talking about were talking about nice yeah i was pretty happy to see that i knew that was in the works when i actually saw it in the gym i was like yeah because when they did the gym tour uh the updated gym tour a couple weeks ago like i 100 was like eyeballing like all right i know for a fact there's an no wine cellar sticker in there i know for a fact there's an unpaid

underrated sticker in there and i'm just like wait wait, there it is. Yep. I'm like, honey, look, look, look, look. There they are. They're just going to literally as long as that gem exists, even if this podcast, in 10 years from now, if that gem's still a thing and this podcast only lasts five years or whatever, that's going to be cool that that banner will be there. We're there. I got a message

today from somebody offering to do a DILF dungeon banner for me. D dilf dungeon banners might be coming and i was like well well this person tends to like not respond for weeks at a time so it might be a little bit until it happens but i think the dilf dungeon banners and logo are on their way because i am a fucking nightmare and i don't do anything seriously anymore good stuff what you got in there. What you got in there? What else you got in there?

Anybody order a drink spotter XL yet? Has that been on anybody's radar? Got one on my way. Nice, nice, nice, nice. I had just put the, I got five or six drink spotters. I just couldn't do it yet. I got to wait.

I don't know. Like I literally just dropped over $100 on, maybe it was right at $100 on four four drink spotter lights and i'm just like yeah i'm good oh next time i have a lift party and i'm kind of i'm gonna have to eyeball the room and see if anyone actually has like a bigger water bottle that's just sitting on the floor and if that's the case then maybe i'll pick one up but for now at least what fits my needs i don't drink out of anything that i need the bigger container for and i'm selfish and i'm gonna fuck around and come to your gym just bring the biggest water bottle i can find and be like hey where do i put this but yeah i wish all the wish the boys all the best luck with

that hopefully it's a big uh you know hot item for them hopefully i hope they bring a couple to home gym con because i actually want to like see the size by size comparison in person and you know feel it out so that would be cool I was saying that we didn't have like an internal bet on our contest this week and I was going to say I think like the loser buys a drink spotter

for the winner I thought that might have been really funny but I don't want to like put other people's money in their mouths like that's not fun we'll figure it out in the back channels i'm not really sure what we're going to do with that but either way it'll be fun i mean we're all of them are so different well yours and i's are polar opposites so it's a matter of like the people want to just do it super easy and just throw their name in the hat or do they want to have a fun time and get really creative and kind of they're hey they have multiple avenues so but that's the thing is is yours isn't easy sam do you know what we're talking about yeah yep yeah so yeah yours is so

easy that i think people are going to get lazy and i think they're going to just go in their power rack and lift their power bar and but i think mine can require a lot of fun so even if i only get three people i think i'm gonna get three really creative silly posts whereas you're gonna get a couple people lifting in a power rack it's gonna be basic but i don't know right so you might get more but i think i'm gonna get so we should have we should yeah hogan's is actually really interesting and then i'm just going to say hogan probably wins and just make it easy on us but also like we didn't we should have been like let's find one like who gets the most who if one of our draft wins then we do this like we should have had a kind of like silly bet um but we are not known to think ahead it's been a rough week for me. My parents were in town last week,

home gym cons this week. Work has gotten crazy. Our staff just shrunk by a couple people because two dipshits decided it's cool to get into a fight on the clock. So my job is, I've been overwhelmed so much the last couple weeks,

more than anything. So I'm just like, even last week I felt like, even though I had a big spreadsheet of everything I wanted to pick, I think if I had the 10 000 foot view and could redo it i probably would have gone a little more silly and a little less practical but i didn't i don't know in my mind i didn't even like get the whole until it was already happening i was like

wait the people are gonna like do this and then do a competition and so i was kind of like behind the eight ball on that one but uh i think it'll be fun I think Hogan did a great job with putting it all together. And you know, those, those jackets are awesome. I've been wearing mine or mine all weekend. It actually like was shitty and rainy and cold all weekend. So I definitely wore it.

I think it's in like multiple pictures and stories from this week. So some lucky winner is going to get their hands on one of those. Okay. Do we want to rate last week's episode with ginger killies yeah let's do it did you get a chance to listen to it sam i did definitely a solid five out of five massonomics ipod gym touches nice it's good good fair rating we'll take that uh i did listen to it i'm drawing a blank on like 90 of it for some reason like i know i liked it uh i liked when i talked about uh i did listen to it i'm drawing a blank on like 90 of it for some reason like i know i liked it uh i liked when i talked about uh i didn't know you could like do dungeon

and dragons online that was interesting to me because like that was like one thing he touched not that i'm like a big dungeon dragon the guy i just had never heard of that being like a virtual way but it kind of makes sense that like you can do so much stuff on discord and have like a screen where you can move shit around so that's cool that he gets together with his homies and does that every week so for that uh crew you know for them you know for him putting setting that time aside for his buddies and doing that regularly you know that means a lot to me so uh five out of five mass gym ipod touches uh i guess that leaves me so at the arnold um somebody i want to say it was emmett no no it was it was minnie minnie was so amped to meet ken like he came over and he was just like i just got to meet

gingercules and i was like i don't because of course i don't fucking know who anybody is right um turns out that was a hell of a dude like like he was you know calm collected a good interview i take umbrage with one single snub that wcw and wo revenge was not mentioned as one of the greatest n64 games of all time because it absolutely was oh green of time is definitely up there majora's mask is definitely up there mario 64 for sure starfox 64 yeah um but to not include nwo or wsw versus nwo revenge was was a bit of a snub. So I would normally give them 5. I would normally put out there 5 Massonomics

iPod Touches. But because they snubbed my favorite N64 game, I gotta go with 5. That's a burner. It's gonna tear down the average.

But Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, Tommy. I know you're probably not listening, but come on. NWO versus WCW. Best game. Well, I'm surprised he didn't talk about it when he was on Huck Finn Barbell's show this week. I think they recorded that a Sunday night, and I actually listened to it at like 4 a.m on monday i randomly woke up like an hour before i had to get up and anyway i was like i knocked that whole episode out pretty quick and uh god damn huck karen was so fucking karen's drunk a lot but karen was like karen was like not making sense slurring like just bad drunk you know i've

never i've never listened to their podcast my only my only interactions are at the arnold with huck and karen and karen's usually sober when i talk to her yeah so she must just be like one of those homebody drunks like she doesn't want to get drunk like okay okay that makes sense and their their podcast so like there's let's get stupid which is callous and finn which is like a stand like its own thing and then uh huck finn has his own podcast it like will literally come out like four episodes in a month and then he won't do one for two months because he forgot basically but that's the huck finn barbell show which is a lot more like drinking and uh karen's usually on that one with him and she there you know there i think she even admitted that she had been drinking

since 8 a.am and it was like nine o'clock at night or something when they were recording. But fuck it. I'm, I want on that podcast, Tommy Tanner. I'm putting it out there now. I'm going to,

I'm on vacation in a couple of weeks. Let's get hammered and do a podcast together. But no, it was, it was a good episode. Everyone go check that out over there. And anytime you get to consume one of you know the sister host on a different podcast it's kind of interesting to me

just to like see i wouldn't say if you see a different side of their personality because they're still you know they're they don't sound like they pretend to be on massonomics but it's just like they're out of their element a little bit and to see them still like do a good interview or be interviewed well it's kind of always cool to see and uh i watched the finale of shogun today man i'm going into i'm not i'm just be spoiler free nope you haven't seen it yet fucking fight you that's actually the one show i've been watching pretty regularly yep you just are you behind an episode uh finale aired last night so i watched the finale okay yeah so i'm on i'm on last week's episode because i just haven't had time to get through it

it was good uh we're gonna talk about that in the future maybe when it's not spoilery but oh man i didn't do you know the source materials you like know what's gonna happen already or is it all no okay so no, it's definitely watchable. Like I had it at a nine going in and I might have dropped it to like an eight to eight and a half after the finale, but still one of the best TV shows on the above the year for sure. So go watch it. And that is about all we have for general topics. So I think Big Sam, do you have an ad read for us, my friend? Oh, no. I do. We have something Big Sam, do you have an ad read for us, my friend? Oh, no.

Did Joey have something? No, no, no. I was going to say, I was actually just messaging Huck. Like, I'm going. I'm going all in. And he's going to see that message and go, what the fuck is this?

And Karen's going to go, oh, no, let's do that. That sounds fun. All right, Big Sam, hit us with a Monomics sponsor ad read please all right this episode is brought to you by massonomics if you're into jefferson deadlifts drink safety and unusually specific geography look no further this lifting podcast and empirical dynamic duo bring you your go-to internet niche for endless hours to talk about nothing in premium

blanks act now the massonomics army is looking for three submasters lifters ready to get strong stay strong and use their strength go to massonomics.com join it's here your spot today nice well done well done the biggest uh sticking point i have with that is when you mentioned the blank you know was it the same blank i mean you did say it was a superior blank or whatever you said i just i don't know that's i just don't know if those are the same blanks that i have in my closet. Okay. Funny joke came from this week. Last thing before we get our guest on. Yep. Was it Big Caden or Colton posted a video

of them lifting somewhere? Big Colton did a strongman show. Okay. Big Caden, congratulations on becoming a father. That too. But there was a guy in the background of one of those videos and I actually had to say the

thing I say a lot on Instagram to crew what the fuck is that me hysterical that you said that today I'm I haven't seen the guy in like four years but I used to work with a guy that was like basically two inches taller than you, but bald and a big ginger beard. And I swear to God, when I saw him on Facebook today, I was like, what the Joey's not on Facebook. Like, Joey doesn't have Facebook. And I was like, because this guy is like, I think he's one of the guys that are like deactivate his account and then reactivate it. So I only see shit from him for like once a year.

And I was like, fuck, that looks like Joey to the point that i like went back and looked at like a year like multiple years of his pictures that looks like fucking joey it was yeah creepy yeah bald head long red beard and because i think it was i think it was dodds was the first person to post one of those and i just think it's funny how often i get to say to crew what the fuck is that me and then and then i uh whoever it was was like it's the same template and then i was like oh you mean it's the same and that was pretty funny i get to call myself a blank bald and red-headed beard the fuck is that me that's probably going to be one of my favorite jokes going forward i hope that we could actually get that to like pick up some steam in the

unpaid underrated uhrated channel on Discord. Because we used to do it with Tommy a good bit. Anytime anyone saw anyone with some long curly hair from the back, we would just tag, you know, we'd say, this is Tommy. I think that'd be as easy to do with you as well. So I want to see that. Yeah, I want to see that in Discord, crew.

Maybe the gauntlet is laid down. All right. Let's get all these people out of here and get our guest on the horn. Let's do it. I'm eager to hear from Big Sam. All right. Big Sam, is that you? I'm here.

Hey, welcome to Unpaid and Underrated, the podcast featuring you right now. Good to be here. I would think so, especially because Keith has his Barbell Rescue shirt on. That's his fancy shirt tonight. I do like it. It's a good shirt. It's good. I don't want to go out.

I have a fucked up going out. I got to prepare. Well, Big Sam, easy enough. What brought you to Masonomics? When did you find them? Where's your backlog status? I want to hear everything that you and Masonomics that's happened in the last five years. back. It's been a while. It's been a while.

Yeah, I don't know. Mathematics First brought me in, and Jefferson Deadlifts brought me in, and I've been here ever since. Instagram reeled you in, but when did you find the... Were you an early adapter of the podcast, or was that something you got

into later? What's that journey? The podcast was later. I think uh it was the instagram the shirts i think the first shirt i got was a jefferson deadlift shirt i remember when that was maybe god what was that 2018 2019 18 or 19 i think the jefferson shit all happened before i really got super into it uh i think if i, like the summer before. Yeah. I would have been 19, probably.

Podcast was a little later. I realized I apparently have only been crew for not even two years yet. Uh-oh. We're getting there. I just saw it in your hand, so let's... What's your Hall of Fame status? Tell us what you got.

It's embarrassingly low considering how long I've been following math and omics, but let's see. As of now, we're at one, two, three, four,

five, six, including today, seven, eight. But I think I hit 12 on the day of the lift heave heavy live easy classic so you'll knock at least three out right there's a four classic attend well compete and attend are the same i don't know they are separate oh they're two

they're two okay so you get both of those and i hit uh i hit two years like two days before sorry okay so you're piggybacking that one. Attend and meet are two separate things? Well, you could be there or you could lift weights. Oh, see, that's interesting. Because when I think I first saw that, I wanted to say, I think that's an argument that you can't do both at the same time. Oh, I missed that conversation. No, no, i've never brought

that up and i meant to bring it up to tanner well i'll be attending the powerlifting and competing in the strongman right because last year i attended and didn't compete so i would potentially not have hall of fame status if those are two separate things, and I don't think most of us would. Interesting. Interesting. Because those do kind of seem like a twofer. I think they did it separate just because there was a lot of

people, you know, there was like five people that came and just chilled. Yeah, like I was one of them. Yeah, I know what I'm saying. It would have been shitty to exclude them them i suppose or be at eight yeah well so uh big sam if anyone wants to find you where they're going to find you on instagram discord anywhere you would like follower oh let's see they're going to find me on instagram thunder god dot four two that's pretty much my only online presence.

I'm on Facebook, but that's just for the grandparents. I was watching you deadlift today for that, on that profile. Yeah, I had to figure out where my 18-inch deadlift was at, and I was pretty happy with it. It was pretty high. That was pretty high. 7.65, not bad.

I went for 800 because of the shirt. I had to go for those 800 solid ass pounds but not quite there next time so so you would say it was not lightweight today it was it was heavy weight today gravity was real strong i feel that i was talking to jake a little bit because i'm still like i'm so new to strong and i'm trying to figure out what do they mean by an 18 inch deadlift like just at the top of the bars, at the bottom of the bar, at the middle of the bar, my analytic brain, do I need to like,

which wagon? Jesus dude. It's like, give me some idea of, cause I want to, I have to like type a setup. Am I going to do it in my rack? And I'm going to,

or am I going to go to the bottom? Those 29 millimeters are making the huge difference to you? Well, no, regardless. Normally, normally it's in the middle, but. Okay. Yeah. Jake said like, go to to the top i think to make it a little harder just easier on me day basically

yeah there you go so i was looking at some crash pads today so the heavier it got the uh the lower it got so i don't really know how high oh yeah yeah yeah i have to figure out like i'm curious because i need to know specifically because i want to train it exactly the same for the next fucking like three months. So I need to figure out if I need to make different blocks or if I can do blocks with like a 10 pound bumper or something. And like I need to figure out where that height is or if I can get it in my rogue rack off a rack pull at the right height. So it's all shit I got to figure out. A lot of racks don't get that nice height for you, but stay on a couple of plates.

You'll get there. Yeah, I'll give her a shot. I got to see. I'm very curious because 60 seconds for reps. Fuck that noise. Like, I'm going to do like, no, like I tried to do a when Big Chris was over here last week, we were doing I did a 60 second for reps for the axle clean and clean and press away. And he was was like i got to like 45 seconds and i was just so gassed that i was just like i finished my lockout and i just dropped it and he was like

you have 10 seconds left and i'm like i'm not cleaning this fucker again i'm gonna lower the weight and lower the weight i'm just done yeah that's talking to me and i did a couple weeks ago 60 seconds is a lot longer than you think it is until you get there with comp weight. But it's fun. It's definitely different training. So I'm definitely looking forward to that. And yeah, you have a fucking deadlifts monster. So that is a good starting.

I think, I think you have a good idea of where you're at on that. Do you think you're going to pull 800? Or no, it's no, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. It's five for reps for ours. So why'd you go so heavy? Because all you have to do is just pull like fucking 500 for reps. Because you gotta go heavy. Why wouldn't you go heavy? You gotta find percentages. You gotta find out what you're

gonna put your training as. I also did 585 for 10. So, you know. Is that your... Because I know ours is like 425 or something. What's the... We were 555, but then someone went on instagram and posted a video 555 moving too easy and someone helped wait that's what i remember yeah yeah i

think matt was pissed about that so i figured i'd go on and make 585 look like nothing we'll see. It's one of the mats. It's good stuff. Well, Sam, where are you from? Where are you at? Yeah, I'm from Savannah, Georgia. Hot, hot, hot. Went to college in St. Louis. Stayed there for about a decade.

Hot, hot, hot. Now I'm in the heart of the Midwest, I think they call it. Columbus, Ohio. It's debatable in the Midwest aspect. Where do you stand on that? Because I could give a shit less. But as someone who's been in Columbus for a few months now, what's your mindset on that? Having been in St. Louis, Missouri, which I think is undeniably Midwest, it's basically the same thing.

Gotcha. A little bit of misery. a little bit of easy cost of living, classic Midwest comfort food. So are the seasons about the same and Missouri versus Ohio? You get about an extra five days of spring and fall. Otherwise exactly the same. Yep. Yeah. I don't think people realize how similar weather is in a lot of places like like i'm from west virginia and i've lived in new york for the last 15 years and everyone's like oh this must be really different in weather and i'm like i live like six hours away

and i live on a fucking i lived when i grew up on a mountain range like no it's there's not more there maybe is like you know five percent warmer days down there sometimes right it's about the same so but yeah so uh you basically did you graduate high school in georgia and then yeah yeah you said so okay so you spent went to college in st louis went to dc for two years and then went right back to st louis for grad school wait so you didn't have a winter and so you went to college then how was that no how so like you had to go buy a bunch of winter clothes as a college freshman that didn't fucking know that was happening or we were slightly prepared yeah so i went from uh 75 degrees on christmas to you know five degrees on christmas but uh i so i was a rower in a high school so we'd go out on the on the route water

row and i did the same thing in college and uh i will forever remember going out on a river in december when it's 18 degrees and you're not allowed to wear anything but spandex and just water and i've never felt cold since so you know i just got it over with do Are you inevitably soaking wet? How much splashing is getting on the crew when they're rowing? If you're doing it right, none. But if you're on a novice boat

because you're a freshman, a lot. You're on the JV team. You guys are all fucking moist a bit. Oh, yeah. It's 18 degrees. Too bad. you got to keep going that sounds horrible or was that uh something that didn't stick to that for about a year and then i remember to come to college to learn not to wake up at 4 a.m and fall asleep in all my classes yeah because i'm assuming that's like that wasn't like a is that a sport you could actually

scholarship in and like get letters and shit or was it just like all like you know uh clubs and stuff it was it was a real sport it was a real sport but uh no that didn't last yeah i don't blame you in high school we practiced after school in college we practiced before school oh yeah yeah that whole thing when you gotta go leaving leaving my dorm that first year when my dorm mate came back from a party at the same time as I was leaving not a good feeling so what's harder okay rowing in college or doing a chicken

bake challenge oh chicken bake challenge is easy I don't know what you're talking about that was the easiest thing I've done in my life. Did you eat anything else or did you seriously only eat chicken? I drank water. I had coffee. You know, that's technically a few calories.

Well, we're not allowed to talk to you until you've had your coffee. I understand that. Like that, that's nice. That's included in there. No, I had what? 31 chicken bakes over seven days and not anything else jesus dude i had one chicken bake and couldn't finish it because i was just like this is the most food i don't know it sounds pretty weak to me i know i think you covered it on their little brief thing on the

podcast but uh did you how many of those were, uh, hot versus cold? Or did you warm all of them up? Any of them? Did you eat any of them cold as the, as the cold on a sewer? I'm curious.

No, no cold ones. None cold. No, I, I work literally like right across the street from a Costco. So just swing by over lunch, swing by again after,

after work. I brought, I brought one home. I brought one and a half home. Cause I couldn't finish my one. And we finished it here at home too. Yeah, as somebody

who's at Costco a lot, I constantly wish they had them at my kiosk or at my warehouse locally. But at the same time, I just don't think I could eat them that much. The food is just so food court-y food. But yeah, luckily I had hot sauce in my bag.

Do you guys, does your food court up there have the, or Sam, since you live right next to it, or work right next to it, have you ever had the, was it turkey and Swiss sandwich they have? My wife asked me to get her one the other day when we were there, and they were sold out. And it was like, for $9, it better be fucking great. But I didn't have a chance to get it for you say that yeah i see it every time i go and i'm like nine dollars i can't justify that we got a chicken bake for 3.99 you got a hot dog for a dollar 50 now i'll try it once at least because up here we had a turkey provolone uh which was i think kind of the same thing although i wouldn't eat it very often because it would just fill my beard with grease

and I would get acne all over my face the next day. So I didn't really eat those very often. It's like some ciabatta bread or something, I think. So it's like really square. Yeah, it was just fucking everywhere. We have poutine up here. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and I'll tell you right now,

Costco poutine is my favorite poutine you know you've got these poutine specialty places where they're like well we're gonna take fries we're gonna take gravy and cheese and then we're gonna put a billion fucking garbage ingredients on it so that it makes you think it's gourmet and costco's like no we're gonna get genuinely good cheese curds and gravy and dump them on our shitty fries. And you're going to love it. And yeah, I do. So by like 11 a.m., I've had 1600 calories because that's how many is in this poutine.

But it's so good. And then I had onions and hot sauce and salt just to make sure I feel like shit for hours afterwards. But definitely like, yeah, you guys have your chicken bake and everybody can talk about that, but let's talk about the Canadian Costco poutine for a little bit. Sounds like a Canadian Costco food road trip in my future. Let's go.

Let's go then. I'll meet you up here. There's two things you'd mentioned that, that the Canadian Costco's have that we don't have have because we don't have fries either at ours so i'm assuming they have fries solely so poutine it's i i'm pretty i vaguely get what it is but is it basically just it's a it's fries okay so it's only with fries like that's it's fries that has to be and then you take cheese curds which are primarily made in Belleville and then there's a place in Quebec that makes really good ones

and good cheese curds squeak when you bite them so you bite into them and they make that sound or whatever, there's no way Zoom's going to pick that up they're going to boost that sound and then you cover that with gravy okay, so the cheese curds

okay, so it's ads okay so it's like a white gravy it's not a sausage gravy the fuck is white gravy the brown gravy come on yeah like it's different gravies fuck off it's beef gravy or maybe if you're weird

it's mushroom gravy and it melts the cheese curds to the fries see my mouth is watering thinking i love cheese fries but i don't know 1600 calories i'm only four hours away from canada i think i gotta get on this and then what i will do is i will ask very nicely for the onion because if you order a hot dog in can Canada you can ask for a side of onions and if your warehouse has them you can have onions for your hot dog but I would like to put those on my poutine please also some Canadians put ketchup on their poutine and I think that's

fucking wild like I've literally looked a person in their face and called them a monster for doing that because like how wet do you want your food like it already has gravy why are you adding more sauce to it i will judge you if you put ketchup on your poutine by the way scan some looking at you i saw a uh i'm gonna explain this really bad because i can't remember the context of it but the gist was someone was busting someone's balls in a in an instagram comment i don't remember the context of it, but the gist was someone was busting someone's balls in an Instagram comment. I don't remember what the topic was. Basically, the comment was to describe someone as being soft. So they said something, something,

something. This person probably thinks bread is too spicy. And I was just like, that just made me laugh so hard. And I was like, I got to save that for the podcast because, yeah, I'm that mild taste bud guy. I wouldn't say, I don't know. I mean, there are hot breads. There's like jalapeno bread and shit but just the comment was hysterical

well there you go alright guys so I come down all the way to the states for the chicken bake I challenge any of you to come to Canada for the poutine and I will tell you I have only once in 10 years finished one of those proteins

challenge accepted yeah they immediately Only once in 10 years finished one of those proteins. Challenge accepted. Yeah. They immediately cause what you call that fat displacement where your body just goes, I don't want anything to do with this. And you got to like run to the toilet immediately, but it's so delicious. So what you're saying is we need a massonomic seven days only poutine

challenge. There's like four of us that can do it. It's like me,abel that's that's all we need and no i can't oh god no i would lose three pounds and we can have a big sam do all the research for that kind of sound like it's in his wheelhouse this phd degree um do you want to uh catch everyone up on what you went to school for, what you do for a living, anything you're proud of in the educational field? Yeah. Actually, you say PhD.

I'm actually just a master's. Oh, okay. Technically went in for a PhD, but between pandemic and having a kid, I left with a master's. Jumped ship to industry because they pay about three times as much. Makes sense. And yeah, let's see, what do I do? sense and uh yeah i uh let's see what do i do i help make medicine for little kids with muscular dystrophy which is oddly relevant to my lifting passion but uh that's awesome man that's that's that's what i do that is legit does your is your job related to some of these fancy places i've

seen you go on to uh and Hawaii and all that? Are you doing anything research-related for that, or is that all recreational? That's all recreational. There was a scientific conference happening while I was in Hawaii, but that was immunology, which is not my field. But I think maybe, maybe I'll be going over to England at some point for work, but that's about as far as I'll go.

Nice. You should take one of the Davids with you. He's probably dying to get there. Yeah, I'll take him. He's boring. Good stuff. So being in Columbus, did you get a chance to make it to the Arnold? I know I think you had just moved, and I know you posted about it in Discord, but I never saw any follow-up. I'm not sure if you actually made a pin appearance or not. No, we, uh,

we all in my family got sick that weekend. Oh, what'd you do that for? I know. Right. Like I finally, right down the street. No,

finally in Columbus, right down the street. And I didn't make it all to do next year. Yeah. I'll have to, uh, I'll have to cross that off my Hall of Fame achievement list next year. That's why you didn't. So you can blame the wife and kids on why you're still one too many away for that Hall of Fame.

Right, right. Some by fault, some by fault. The toddler with the plague. The plague, yeah. That's what they do, I guess. That's for sure. Let's see. I got a lot of stuff here so scuba diving you are a big fan of scuba diving it seems uh when did you get into that are you still active in it is it something that you uh you know recommend to others all

right yes this is a great topic giving this a it's lifting adjacent podcast i'm gonna go in a direction i think you didn't see coming. Scuba diving is indirectly the reason why I got into powerlifting in the first place. So ready to go back in time to 2013. Spring break, went down to the Fort Keys, did a scuba diving trip, got on a plane, flew home. I was working out, training for a mud run that my brother had talked me into doing, and spontaneously collapsed my left lung. Yep. I was on the rower. I was like, okay, this is weird. Did I pull a muscle? I got this pain right here in my upper left chest. But then I realized, no, it's on both sides of my chest. That's weird.

right here in my upper left chest but then i realized no it's on both sides of my chest that's weird and uh wrote it off took some advil because my housemates and i were going to an all-you-can-eat sushi place that night so i couldn't miss that and uh two days later i woke up in the morning and i hear this weird bubbling sound coming from my left chest go to student health and they say you can't possibly know that you have a collapsed lung that's impossible but they do a chest x-ray and they say all right nope you're right you got a collapsed lung go home it's fine it'll probably heal itself if it doesn't go to the er what six hours later i'm like gasping for breath and i have to go to the ER. So I spent five days. Yep.

Go ahead. That was not in our list. You went somewhere and they were like, that'll fix itself. A fucking collapsed lung will fix itself? It was only 10% collapsed, which 50% of the time, if it's 10% collapsed and the sixth hour is after, it's going to heal itself. Well, it happened two days prior and student health just didn't

want to deal with it, I guess. They said, yeah, just go home. You'll be fine. Jesus. You didn't just fucking lay down and go to bed and just die. That's really scary. I got my friend to drive me over to the ER and they're like, wait, how are you standing right now? They took

me back, did a chest x-ray.'s like 60 percent collapsed basically have no lung left fucking liable student health jesus fuck that yeah it turned out okay yeah so the the guy comes in puts a little chest tube in the side a little pinch i'm like oh that wasn't so bad and he says yeah me too this is my first one apparently i got the i got the resident who never put a chest tube in before you know is this like so i someone who watches a lot of like medical dramas and shit when you see someone put the chest tube in you literally like do like a multiple instance shizzen like on their side of their body and then they literally jam the tube in is that legit what happened? Yeah.

You hear the cracking as the ribs separate. I didn't know if there were less intrusive chest tubes for something. It sounded like it was life-threatening, but damn. So you got a gnarly scar there to remind you of that, huh? Honestly, the scar is only about half an inch across. Mostly healed up.

The chest tube was there for six days while I was sitting on a hospital bed. Look, that had to hurt. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't the pain so much as hearing your ribs separate that. No, not good. Audible fucking sound. Yeah. Fortunately, he told me after he put it in that it was his first one.

But. Yeah, so. All yeah, so all right. So I get out, get out of the hospital, have my follow-up with the doc about a month later. And he says, all right, the good news is there's only about a 40% chance that this will happen again. The bad news is we have no idea if you're going to be one of those 40% or not. We have no idea why it's going to happen. And if it happens again, it's going to keep happening, keep happening, keep happening. So, you know, I went home. I wasn't lifting yet.

I spent a couple months just kind of wallowing. 40% chance that my life is just crippled. And so I said, all right, you know what? To hell with it. I'm going to go to the gym. And if it's going to collapse, it's going to collapse while I'm doing a heavy deadlift. And now I deadlift 600 plus pounds. 10 years later, no collapse.

Here we are. That's awesome. Have you had any follow-ups where they're just like, yeah, your lifting has probably contributed to your ability to fight this off? No. So the thing about it is if it doesn't collapse, you just never have any more follow-ups. You just go on with your life. He's still breathing it's probably fine yeah well i'm more of like right you do like an annual physical and it's just something that like comes up in your medical history i know like a lot of doctors will no i mean from 10 years ago and in a physical

i mentioned it and it's just like well have you had any symptoms no all right you're good i i once went to give blood a couple years after that, and you have to answer on the questionnaire, have you ever had any problems with your lungs? And I have to say yes. And the nurse had no idea what to do when I told her that. Yeah, my lung collapsed spontaneously 10 years ago, or a couple years ago.

She called the doctor that was on site for the blood draw, and he just said, well, does he look substantial? Yeah. Oh. All right. What does that mean? Basically, that just means does it look like he's about to die? No, or does he look substantial?

I like that. Calling lifters substantial. That's good. Yeah, like, you are looking substantial today that's a good one yeah i'm gonna adopt that that'll be that'll be my new instagram post where like i'm just like being like a weird like looking good king you're looking substantial my man one more year to still do hashtag uh substantial submasters okay we go to welcome masters master all right thunderbutt i got a question for you to still do hashtag substantial submasters. We all go

masters, masters. Alright, Thunderbutt, I got a question for you. Thunderbutt, that's the first. No, it's not. It's in our list. Normally it's Thunderthighs. Oh, you were talking to Andrew. I was not. It was in our list.

I got info from the theater room people let's talk science fiction okay let's do it I'm not going to go Matt Rushmore because I think we have our own of those or FMK but like what's your top let's go to books because I'm also

I love science fiction movies but I really love science fiction books so let's talk let's make this a bit of a game I love science fiction movies, but I really love science fiction books. So let's talk. Let's make this a bit of a game. Let's talk about the book you read and then the movie you watched and how much you hated the movie over the book. Because I can promise, like, I might know your two answers, but give me your two for that. So we're talking about difference between book and adaptation yeah and which one you hated the most well you gotta give me you

gotta give me a subset because there's been a lot over the years okay so for me total recall is one of them okay okay i think that the 30 page total recall book to the movie made no fucking sense at all uh and and do android dream of electric sheep i don't think that that made a very good movie either you don't think blade runner made a very good movie uh i think blade runner was a very good movie separately from okay yeah do you enjoy like they give you that they're not they're not terribly the spider scene the spider scene where the replicant kills the spider in the book was so emotional and so important and it just wasn't in the movie okay all right all, I'll give you that. So, do you have opinions

separately? I think they're separately. I think they're better separately. I thought we were going to go with the Dune route because that's what everyone's talking about these days. I haven't even seen Dune 2 yet and I don't give a fuck. You have to see Dune 2.

Oh, I know, I'm waiting. I assure you, I'm going to watch it the comparisons to empire are substantial okay i'm in and i'm definitely i definitely can't wait um but i think like those are the two that just came off the top as i was i made up that question as i was reading the list of things in the things to talk to you about. Okay. Okay. So I've never read the 30 page one that total recall is based off.

I'll have to add that. I don't know how I've gotten the 31 years without reading that, but I'll have to add that in. Is there a pre-breasted woman in that 30 page book? No, no, there's not. Well, then I'm not interested. So the original total recall was honestly just you could almost read it like an infomercial for what they do and then they were like well what if a whole movie with arnold schwarzenegger who goes to mars and like starts a war like it's a very big extrapolation

okay okay reading the original um yeah definitely has nothing to do with that movie or the other movie with Carl Urban. Was Carl Urban in the other? No, it was... Oh, I never saw the new one. It was filmed in my city. Like, one of my friends is in it. The one that played...

Fuck. He was the villain in that really bad Daredevil movie that came out in, like, 2009. What the fuck is his name? No, I'm picturing his dumb face. Oh, God, what's his name? He's been in so many other movies. Colin Farrell.

He was... I'm pretty sure. Yeah, he was definitely the... That one has the one that had Jessica Biel and... Are you still talking Daredevil? No, no, no. The second... The Total Recall remake.

Oh, it was... The Underworld chick. No, no, no. The second, the Total Recall remake. Skabill, isn't that? Oh, it was, fuck, the Underworld chick. Oh, damn it. We are so bad at this. Yes, Kate Beckinsale. Yeah, so like those two. Yeah, they were definitely very, it was like the saving grace of that movie, I think,

because it wasn't great in comparison. But really, if you watch Total Recall now, it's like, well, does it hold up? I don't, I only have seen Total in comparison. But really, if you watch Total Recall now, it's like, well, does it hold up? I don't know. I only have seen Total Recall in 20 years. I'm going to throw this back on you, actually, though. Okay. Have you ever seen, this is a more niche one,

but it's a good book to adaptation comparison, Night Flyers. All right, I'm going to Google it. Sometimes I forget if I've seen things. No, that was George R.R. Martin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I still have

two or three episodes of that show because it got really fucking weird. It did, but in a good way. It was probably five years ago or less. No, I've never seen that. Where would I find this? It was on Netflix. I think it was on Netflix, yeah.

It was a sci-fi show, I believe. Like the actual channel sci-fi. So it might even still be on there. Interesting. Seems like it'd be up your alley. Very gory, from what I remember. Very gory, very horror. I don't love gore.

But I do love horror. So it's's very horror it's very psychological suspense that's that's the shit i like gory is gory for the sake of gore is pointless and in fact even tron to message me today and he's like thank you for reminding me of that terrible terrible movie and i was like i know man i'm sorry that's never my goal um did you watch uh what was that new one with adam sandler space man you were talking about that i haven't seen it yet seen that yet is that on netflix too yeah it's a netflix original yeah that's like the one streaming service that i don't have right now so i i donate platelets once a week and so i have two hours once a week to watch something on netflix and i haven't gotten to that yet the three body problem though back on sci-fi book adaptations that's on netflix three body problem oh yeah i think i think i saw

saw something about i hate i hate how this is like i'm like i'm gonna ask you things that might stump you and you're like no here's a list of shit to watch. Now I'm giving you homework. Yeah, right? Joey doesn't know who people are or what shows are. And I'm not mad about it because I'm probably going to at some point want to watch these. I add shit to my watch list all the time from here. Just not basketball because I'm not going to rewatch that.

No, that's bad. You should rewatch that. You should rewatch that and get a sense of humor well now that i'm not the one power through me it'll probably be a lot more cheerful um night flyers the george rr martin that was it wasn't actually a standalone book was it wasn't something just like a college paper or something or like uh it was it was a short it was it was serialized i think in a publication in a magazine or something when it first came out but then it was re-released as a as a coherent book yeah because if he wasn't like who he was it definitely would have never got any like

traction i can't imagine yeah but no fantastic read fantastic watch pretty faithful but uh some liberties but so so is george railroad mart Road Martin a real person? Or is he like R.L. Stine? Yes. I've seen his house. So my brother went to college in the same town where he lives. So like the running joke, the running joke for my entire youth was that R.L. Stine was a series of people. And he was a prop.

Because nobody can write that many books in that short of time and be that R.L. Stine was a series of people and he was a prop because nobody can write that many books in that short of time and be that successful. Well, if that's your argument, then George R.R. Martin is definitely a person because he hasn't written anything in like 13 years. He refuses to update his most successful books. He wrote himself into a corner

and he can't find his way out, so he's just gonna die first uh i respect the shit out of that i gotta say like i genuinely respect like no i'm writing for the sake of the characters and now i have nowhere to go so i'll just die like i kind of love that right be a man Die before you have to release. I find it very frustrating. There are like, there's like two or three other off the authors that I are in the middle of

like epic, like book series, fantasy book series. It's just like stopped writing the book like five years ago. And I'm just, you fucker. Was it a Patrick Robertson, Roffinson,

the King killer Chronicles. Like we got two amazing books and then just nothing for the last decade and then uh and they say it's scott lynch and the bastard chronicles or something the loch lamore or something like that like you love chronicles yeah but both really good book series that i enjoy immensely and they're just like completely haven't like i i look like every couple like every year to be like is there there any fucking update on the conclusion of this goddamn series? And just nothing. Very frustrating.

So, okay, to wrap up the sci-fi aspect of this, because our nerdy little segments tend to do really well, or at least people want to talk to us about them. So what is your favorite science fiction movie and book? Ooh. Alright, well the book is more of a serious foundation,

as I think any self-respecting Eric would say. The adaptation is weird. I haven't watched season two yet, but season one wasn't terrible. Let's see. Movie. What is my favorite sci-fi movie? Can go tv show of course you can

well then clearly the expanse hands down we we heard you like the expanse oh did you yeah did you like uh was it was it prime that picked it up for the last couple seasons or netflix yeah because it got canceled on sci-fi and they got picked up by a streamer for at least a couple seasons it got canceled on sci-fi and then like the fans rented planes to write the expanse in the sky about bezos's homes that's awesome and then they picked it up so that's good yeah because they got that's my kind of fan base they ended up having a longer run on that than it did anything else uh it was three on sci-fi three seasons on a prime and then they still killed it before they finished the book series because it was astronomically expensive

but uh there was like a 30-year time jump in the next book so i'm still hopeful that in 30 years they're going to pick it up yeah because they could recast you know at that point they can just recast every well oh no no use the save characters but they're 30 years older oh yeah there you go no I watched both Foundation I'm up to date on I watched both seasons of that definitely weird I had to do a big long recap because so much happened in the first

season and like remembering like when you the main character Selvor well I'm sorry the villain like the person main character that's the salvor yeah well no i'm sorry the like the villain like the person that's like re or uh has has like fucking all the uh the emperor the clones yeah whatever the fuck his name was don dust skin day that's just fucking weird as shit and trying to like refresh and all that but uh good show definitely would watch it and then uh expanse

i think i like most of expanse except like the season it was almost just like a standalone country and western epic kind of thing where they had the where they were on the one planet that was like the whole episode was about that particular planet uh yep but yeah if anyone's listening don't watch both of those shows for sure i agree with sam on that for sure i haven't seen foundation season two was it as good as i don't know if as good as season 1 is the right word. Was it as watchable as Season 1? It was watchable. It's hard to beat first seasons of anything. I've realized that I'm

personally, I love world building. So even if it's bad, it can still be if there's world building, it's still going to be good because that was the Netflix movies that just came out. It literally just dropped this week. Something Moon. Rebel rebel moon one and two i watched the first one it was okay the second one i fucking garbage but i think it was because the first one was

all world building and character development and the second one yeah there's none of that and it was just a fucking 90 minute like shitty action scenes and i was just like yeah but now i want to watch that i haven't seen the second one yet i still watch well watch it for the conclusion for sure but like i just in comparison to one i don't know it's a budget netflix like it's not bad but it's in comparison like if you're gonna if you're not if you're not gonna be great at least have some kind of world building and like character development which the second one like didn't but that's what

the first one's for that's actually why I dislike reading fantasy is because it's so much world building character development and then like the last like 30 pages or something interesting this sounds like no that's actually why I hate Tolkien is because

like like six pages of how the bread tastes is ridiculous go away yeah just too spicy bread any moving on we have this game really sometimes um so you used to have a home gym when you were in uh st louis i'm guessing and now that you're in ohio i don't see a home gym so that's just what what you do what what the fuck what happened why there's just no room for it like you didn't bring it with you or there's no room to set it up in the house that is no room to set it up in the house so you physically still own your equipment you just are yeah or something my yoke currently lives at the gym that i go to because they didn't have a yoke and i was like i have this yoke sitting collecting

dust so do you want it for now but uh yeah no home gym at the moment but uh one day we'll get back to it so you guys are just in like a townhouse or something now or just an apartment or something that can't you know work with just an apartment that doesn't have room for a rack a yoke a platform so is columbus gonna be home for a while or is columbus a short-term gig or what are you thinking i think columbus is gonna be for a while i'm uh i'm in love with the company that i work for that treat me well so i have no reason to go anywhere else yet nice well tell them you need uh more money so you can buy a bigger house and get a home gym again because you know the crew will uh love seeing those home gym deadlifts and whatnot uh i had one follow up

on that so the fact that you have your depending on what brand it is you have at least a 500 yoke that it belongs to you in a commercial setting do you ever get there and see some asshole doing something stupid with it and just like think think to yourself you motherfucker that is mine and that's not what you do with a yoke so no but someone has broken it while i wasn't there oh jesus it's the titan it's not it's not top of the line but uh what uh the the pins that go in that have the the loop that goes around and locks on the other side someone didn't understand how to take that off so they just kept pulling at it and just yank the chain off but gotcha gotcha yeah that's it still works there's too much work to walk around when when you feel

resistance on the back side god forbid you fucking investigate right yeah they decided to just do it live i guess oh yeah they just did it live and they said all right sounds good keep going how uh is that at least the gym now that you're back to commercial gym is it at least close or is it any kind of like oh yeah no it's like six minutes down the road it's okay it's a powerlifting gym it's well equipped it's full elite ftf setup power rack combo rack all you got all you want well yeah if only they just didn't have a shitty Titan yoke, they'd be in good shape, right? Right? If only someone had brought them a nicer

yoke. Good stuff, good stuff. Oh, let's see. What do I want to get into? What is... Maybe I'm stupid. I'm probably... What's an ERG machine? It's an ERG machine.

What the fuck is that? It's a rowing machine. It's named after the... I've never seen anyone... What does it actually stand for? I've always thought of it as the sound you make when you're using it. But I... What is this?

Ergometer. It's an ergometer. That's what it is it is oh it measures your ergs i've never heard anyone like that's such a weird way to the erg machine like it's a okay i get you what what does that actually mean though like erg like let's see it starts for ergometer. What does ergometer actually mean? I'm Googling it. Ergometer. Oh, like they don't do this. I know. Like Tommy didn't spend the entire last episode just on Facebook Marketplace. And then Tanner's like, wait, is that me?

Is that a good deal? That's funny. All right, let's see. A piece of equipment that measures the effort or energy that someone uses while performing a particular action. Nice generic definition. They have the row erg, they have the ski erg, and they have the bike erg now.

I love my deadlift. I love my deadlift bar erg. And my sandbag ergs. I love my berg ergs. I love my berg ergs. I didn't land. Nope. Nate, you want to cut that

right out. Nope. That's standing. Nah, just roast me. Someone's going to make a fucking meme about it and how bad I am. You know what would be worse, though, if they didn't? Like, if they were just like, no, that's not even funny enough to insult keith

jeff has been fucking killing it with his like layered memes man like if you're not a listener and like you remember if you don't have a good memory like just memes might not land as hard as they do but if you're actually like i'm on this podcast and some of them don't land with me and like i have to go back and listen i had to do like a third look at a couple of them like i get everything now but honestly i think i think jeff you should actually explain them in the caption going forward so that's super helpful you know or come on the podcast and explain your memes once a week i think that would also be really helpful in making us fill time to beat the the sister podcast what is the uh did you do some kind of ben and jerry challenge or ben and

jerry monster what the fuck is that i did all right so near-death experience let's get into it second near-death experience yeah i was gonna say, the collapsed lung is kind of that, too. This preceded the collapsed lung near-death experience. So, all right. Freshman year, college. This came from Andrew, obviously. He was my housemate, roommate, all that fun stuff. There was this charity fundraiser event,

which was the Ben and Jerry's Vermonster Challenge. So, do either of you even know what that is? Never heard of it in my life. Alright, so if you go to Ben & Jerry's, you can ask for this, and they'll give it to you. It's 20 scoops of ice cream, one banana, one brownie, four ladles of hot fudge,

a bunch of sprinkles, all that stuff. And so what my university decided to do was have teams of four come and see how quickly they could eat a ben and jerry's for monster so all right before i say how long it took us and why it was near-death experience i just want some some bets some guesses on how long do you think it took us and it's this is a this is a team of four 20 20 scoops of ice cream and some toppings. One spoon each person. So 20, so

fuck, so five. An hour and a half. Did everyone eat equally? An hour and a half. Not even close. Order of magnitude off. 13 minutes. Still way too long. Really? What? It was me, a college rower.

Yeah. Very large man. Well, the brain freeze, though. The hot fudge probably helped offset the fucking brain freeze. You're in an eating contest. The food's not in your mouth long enough for it to cause brain freeze. Correct. Yeah.

So throw that out the window. Is that science? Seven minutes. Because doesn't the brain freeze and it just gets like a roof of your mouth is cold like well i'm more worried about anything in your mouth yeah i'm more worried i'm not worried about that i'm worried about your lactose your lactose inhibitor not cluing into how much ice cream you're putting in and your stomach just going, well, I can't process this shit.

It's really just five scoops of ice cream. Well, I'll give you a hint. Our time was faster than it would take any of that to happen. So, like, four minutes then? 57 seconds. Jesus Christ, four scoops of ice cream per person.

Yeah. How long did the hot fudge sit on it? Was it like soupy by the time you get it? No, no. So it was the middle of winter. They left the stuff outside in like the quad while they were getting everything set up. So still cold. Hot fudge is still a little warm. Yeah, the cold is my concern.

The lactose is my concern. That was a later problem. Yeah, I would imagine so okay the experience comes in from we're just at a table just shoveling this down so okay the banana was sliced into little pieces right i naively assumed the brownie was also sliced into pieces but we're scooping into our mouth faster we can look at it so at one point i end up with just a whole brownie in my mouth but i said earlier it's not in your mouth long enough for you to register it so i just swallow that whole brownie i'm standing there just like i stopped eating for like a second and a half one of my teammates turns to me while i have a brownie lodged in my throat and just yells at me,

keep eating. So, you know, that was enough motivation to get it down to my stomach and keep going. 57 seconds. And our prize was four plastic Velcro gold medals. Oh, good. Yeah. And an additional Vermonster to take home with us to do with what we please so it was a power lifting meat prize more or less i can't imagine because like yeah yeah the lactose inhibitor that again you know how it works like you're in the science

realm like i can't imagine how your stomach just rids like no i'm not doing any of that i'm gonna reject everything i don't know like what's a how many scoops are in like a pint of ice cream because i can smash a pint of ice cream from ben and jerry's in like fucking five minutes if i was like if i'm not trying so i think i could eat that thing in like a minute if I really was, but I don't know how many scoops, like compare what you consumed into like versus according to Google, there's four scoops in a pint. Okay.

So it's basically how fast can one person eat a pint times four, but then it had a brownie banana, hot blood sprinkles, whipped cream. What were the, was it all just like vanilla or was it a variety because like if you have so it was it was it was like banana split flavors okay but like not that i tasted any of it because like like because like the ben and jerry pines that i get have like all kinds of fucking extra toppings that would like if it was just straight oh that's true yeah plain like half melted vanilla i could eat that in fucking a minute but yeah eating all the other shit but also i would be shitting my brains out

for a week and just have the horrible i would have to like eat i don't think there's amount of toms that i could eat that would offset like that much dairy no no you can't do that in that period of time but no that's that's pretty cool though do you uh do you ever get ben and jerry's now and just kind of like pat yourself on the back and be like we are the fucking winners i haven't been to ben and Jerry's in years. There was one just a couple of minutes from our college campus that we would go to every night again, but I don't even know where the nearest Ben and Jerry's is. No, I just meant like-

How would I get it at the store? Every grocery store sells it like not necessarily- I mean, yeah. So the, what is, oh God, the PB Chocolate World or whatever, like 23 grams of protein. That's not a bad, not a bad snack. I'll have to look into that one that's at least uh if you're gonna eat if you're gonna be that gluttonous at least get a get some protein small amount of protein that like you can tell yourself it's like like two percent of the

total calories but it's 22 grand fine uh yeah this kid i work with is like way undersized and he's uh yes the other day i've always i'm always trying to like tell him like just start drinking protein like if you're not going to eat actual like meat and try to gain weight but you're like bitching about the fact that you weigh like you're six foot 140 like buy fucking the cheapest protein you can find and just drink a shake every night and he made a i think he was eating a peanut butter sandwich peanut butter jelly sandwich there he was all proud of himself like i'm good all this protein i'm getting from peanut butter and i'm like like yeah but if you're using peanut butter as like a major protein source you're doing something wrong because that's like 80 carbs and fat and like 20 protein so like yes there is protein in peanut butter but it is not

enough to offset the shit you're putting in your body to like use that as a it was it yeah i think uh lane norton posted something or maybe with someone else the other day on how many calories it is to get 30 grams of protein. It's like 1,500 grams of protein and butter to get that protein. Meanwhile, protein tastes like, what, 250 calories? Yeah, keep your take. It's a lot of peanut butter. So how was the Lift Evil?

Lift Evil is great. I got to say, WRPF puts on great piloting meets. Really well organized. The Strongman was a a shit show as it should have been in uh two of the events where they had to be outside and it was 38 degrees and sleeting so that was good frank knows how to pick up hey he knows how to pick the right time of year to make everything a little harder. So the best part was the sandbags were just like sitting in puddles of water in between lifters. So it was supposed to be like 25 to 55 pounds. And I don't know, 5 or 10 pound increments.

That bottom bag was not 25 pounds. That bottom bag was 50 pounds. And every time it got in the water it was a little heavier I think in my flight none of us got more than the first bag over the bar because we never touched a bag that heavy in training because the second bag was already like 70 pounds did you meet up with any

crew there though because like there was a lot there was a few of us there yeah so Big Murph was there she was competing in powerlifting were there other crew there did i did i miss some other crew i think it was just big was it just i think you're thinking on frank man strong man show last right oh okay yeah yeah my time so big murph got there and was like oh am i gonna be able to recognize him and now we were both wearing the same lift people Masonic collaboration shirt in red it's like no

I know who you are yeah Big Murph is definitely one of my favorites um you know big shout out because apparently I just signed on for my first Ren Faire so I will be LARP adjacent at the end of May I was thinking of what we

I knew there was like what the hell did we say that was it was LARP Pajasmi. Yeah. Yeah. So Morgan's already, she's buying Orina kilt and planning out my outfit and everything. And I was like, I'm going to drink beer.

I was speaking to the, the, the lift evil shirt and massonomic shirts in general. Uh, one piece of massonomics merch that you missed out on that you wish you could have got. What is it? I mean, a month ago, I would have said this one but big j came through oh what is something i missed did you and him do a trade or was this trade up cash money it was just cash

money see that's he said hey i i outgrew this shirt do you want it so you know he went and sweated it one more time and sent it my way he's gonna regret the shit of that if he loses 20 pounds and be like where the fuck's that uh awesome heirloom shirt that i was supposed to like keep for my kids like oh no but i sold it i was saying it's not coming back it's not coming back nice oh something that i missed hopefully you're safer when you're lifting than he was recently after that uh that that video he posted a few months ago about decapitating himself almost so yeah hopefully you don't have any of those incidents wearing it i don't know i did knock a combo rack over on a posquat once those are not easy or those are not hard to do combo racks are extremely unsafe even because unless it's a bolted

down one they're extremely not safe to do heavy like if you rack multiple hundreds of pounds aggressively the fuckers i've seen multiple uh people fail and they'll be squatting in a combo and they'll think that the fucking face savers are for squatting so then they dump 500 pounds on it and the whole fucking thing goes over it's it's pretty funny but it's your own fault so no i was doing a pod squat with something that should have been easy and i don't know you know rp8 with a misgroove drafted on the face and that rack was over into the wall what i just described happened to you that exactly that were you videoing oh do you have a video of that because that would be i do have a video of it all yeah yeah podcast or something we'll post that and uh have you relive your glory

days of doing that that's good stuff someone offered to buy the video from me, but I never followed through with it. Oh, to reshare. Yeah, that's good stuff. Did you damage the wall at all? You said it went into a wall. A little bit. A little bit. It's a nice two prongs where the bar racks.

Yeah. The top of the wall. That's awesome. Well, I'm glad it didn't hurt i probably uh that'd be pretty and just frustrating as fuck she's been like you know i gotta like pick all those plates up and like make sure i didn't hurt myself and honestly it was so funny i didn't even care about the rest of it oh i was just laughing that's good i didn't of course i didn't die and it was funny let's go right and i got it on camera. So that is good.

Uh, I think we should move into some crew questions. Yeah, we got to do just to kind of keep this under. Yeah. You know, we, we,

we, we used to go like three hours. We're so tired. It's already been one for an hour and a half. We are so tired. Yeah. Let's, um,

questions games and then, yeah. Okay. Uh, would you do the chicken bake challenge again and yes in a heartbeat okay follow-up how many do you think you could eat in one sitting oh in one sitting uh me was half so i'm a baby i mean i've done three. Fuck off. Three chicken bakes in one sitting. Four would be rough.

I think I could do five. Is throwing up afterwards allowed? No. I could force five down if I had the option to just, you know. I could do a lot of things if I didn't have to hold them inside. Come back to me when you've already had three chicken bakes. Yeah. No, I can't even do one whole one.

What's your preferred drink with a chicken bake? Nothing. There's no room in your stomach. Not even water, not milk? Oh, no. Water comes a couple hours later because you're dying of thirst because all that salt. 1,400 grams of salt, yeah. What kind of grams of salt?

No, there's no room in your stomach for water at the time alright so enemy of the podcast mostly squat videos who again opened an invitation to be here tonight just decided not to fucking show up

he's been doing that to us a lot lately but he wanted me to ask you um are you his doppelganger or is he yours i don't know he he quit the game when he cut his hair yeah i was gonna say this is probably a more relevant question matt when you had hair and a beard and didn't look like a fucking square. I think I'm the original and he whipped out. I think that's what it is. I think he did too. Was I the first one that called out that doppelganger

there? The similarities between the two of you? I think I commented that on Instagram a long time ago. At least a year ago probably. That was good stuff. I'm not on Instagram. I don't know. least a year ago, probably. That was good stuff. I'm not, I'm not Instagram.

I don't know. I'm pretty sure I, at one point saw one of his videos and I was like, wait, is that me? No. What the fuck is that me? I wonder if he like,

I just had the epiphany that like, maybe I should actually try texting him on his personal phone because I'm assuming that, you know, he obviously has someone running his page for him. doesn't actually do his own work anymore he's got an admin well he's a i just ignores all his dms and his main page the ai definitely creates the material but i'm sure he pays some some some fucking college kid five bucks an hour to just you know you know ignore people dms and go on go and like some random comments and stuff. Is he on Android? Because if he's on Android, then I'm never... I'm just never... Is it green text

or blue text? Because if it's green text, I'm just never going to talk to him. That's not on purpose. He seems like an Android kind of guy. He does seem like an Android... Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's probably like, I'm not fucking buying that, or whatever

the Boston accent is. You ain't getting my khakis. Alright, so... FMK, I'm not Rushmore. No, what's up with giraffe weevils? Yeah, I was so confused when I saw that question. What's a giraffe

weevil, and what's up with that that comes from big morgan wait what i don't know which big morgan your wife my wife said what's up with giraffe weevils uh-huh and that's why i was like i don't know but i'm just unless unless the copy and paste, because I screenshot everything and then I copy and paste it into the notes. So unless the copy paste on Apple got stupid, like, I don't know. I've got to say,

this is the first I've ever heard of a giraffe weevil. Unless maybe she was trying to DM on us directly. It definitely was not for you, the giraffe weevil. Looking at a picture of it, I can say, what the fuck is up with giraffe it's a beetle from madagascar and unfortunately the part of the reason i keep getting up and running away is my daughter is losing her shit trying to go to sleep right now so i can't even go ask morgan why she wanted to ask you oh i love it well to follow that up next week because i i love my wife

and i love instagram and everything goes together just fucking flawlessly um so yeah giraffe weevils are a weird looking weevil from madagascar that have a big long head. They do look weird. I'll give you that. And why would you know that? Well, I think she would probably want to know that. As a scientist, I can say they officially look weird. That's the scientific assessment. I also agree, what the fuck?

My next dissertation is on what the fuck is with giraffe weevils. I got to look into this. They wouldn't get a medicine out of them. All right, Big Sam. I'm going to ask you one you probably know something about. So I want you to Mount Rushmore of places to scuba dive. Talk for scuba diving locations you recommend to top for the ER.

So number one is going to be my most four. The ER. So, number one, it's going to be my most recent. It was in Hawaii. And in Hawaii, volcanic island, you can actually dive through lava tubes. No lava anymore, but it's just a big tunnel underwater,

which I think is really cool. That's so cool. What kind of diameter are we talking? About a foot wider than a person. Fuck that. which I think is really terrifying. That's so cool. How, what kind of diameter are we talking? Like, uh, about a foot wider than a person. Fuck that. That's not, no,

that's not for, no. And there's lobsters in there. So, you know, you got guys clawing at you while you're in there. Fine. Nice.

Uh, let's see. Number two is one. I'm going to put it on there because it's just a cool idea i've never done it but in iceland didn't get a chance to do all those there you can dive between tectonic plates so it's just a chasm that goes through and on one side it's the eurasian tectonic plate and on the left side is the north american tectonic plate and you can touch both of them and you're between two continents.

And it's like 20 degree water. It's great. That one terrifies me. More so than the first one? I'm going to look up videos of that one. That's fucking terrifying. Because tectonic plates, they can destroy countries.

It's a flow process. You can get out of the way. Yeah, all right. Yeah, alright, yeah. Let's see. Three? I'm going to say the Keys. Just because there's so much diversity you can see there. The water temperature's great. You don't even need a wetsuit.

You can just go in with a bathing suit. Water temperature's great. Feels nice. And there's just a lot of reefs, a lot of wrecks. One of my favorite wreck dives, so it's similar to the lava tube. You can go down 100 feet underwater. You can swim into a wrecked ship. I think legally you're only allowed to do it if you can see the other side from the opening. But, you know, it's a suggestion.

No one's going to check while you're down there. In Florida, it's all a suggestion. It's Florida. I mean, come on. Who's going to stop you? They're too busy suing Disney. It's fine. What is 4 going to be? The wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. I'm going to say the Titanic

because, you know, you can take a nice submersible down there and you'll be fine. Nothing wrong will happen at all. You and your fucking Titan and yoke. Getting smashed. You'll be fine. Actually, it's funny. The reason I said Lake Superior actually does have a lot of wrecks. Oh, actually, that reminds me.

Oh, what is it called? Sorry, I cut you off. But there's this place in florida god i can't remember the name because it's been 15 years since i dove it probably but they have like a helicopter suspended from cables 60 feet down they have a empty hollowed out airplane fuselage you can dive through i'll have to look up the name of this place that yeah that'd be four because it's it's small but it's got some cool stuff yeah it's fake you know they put it there but it's cool um yeah i'll put that as four i'll have to look at the

name of that god what is that called i don't remember yeah those are the top four the great lakes are technically inland seas and uh lake Superior has a lot of wrecks that you can go in. Including the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. And the captain's still dead in there. They call him the White Ghost. Alright, I'll say that to my list. Yeah, they just can't remove the body. They just can't.

Right. What's the water temperature in Lake Superior? Cold as fuck. Yeah, I was going to say. That sounds comfortable. Yep. Can't wait. I'm more of a fair weather diver for the most part. Iceland is the one exception I'll make because you can't do that anywhere else.

Actually, now that I bring up the white ghost, one of the Davids is going to check me on that. Make sure it's the right guy. Hold on. gonna check me on that make sure it's the right guy hold on i was at a uh like an artsy or like arts and craft kind of place where they just have like local uh people that like hand make stuff and they just all had a big conglomerate store where they sell it and one of the things they had was a a great lakes like picture but it was like a textured picture so they were like to scale how deep each one was at like with like levels. And it was really kind of cool to see. Um, no.

So, uh, old grandpa or old whitey, the white ghost is the SS cam loops in Lake superior. So they can't remove the body. It's not the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. That was a nice romantic idea of the song from garden light foot. Um, but yeah,

yeah. Apparently. Yeah. Lake superior. they just can't you can't pull Rex out of it because Lake Superior is a nightmare. I've only ever seen it once in my life and it was fucking terrifying

because it was like 10 o'clock at night. Me and Steve were driving back from the Lift Hard Live Easy. Anyway. You want to hit him with an FMK and then we can get him to Unpaid and Underrated? Sure. Alright, FMK then we can get him to unpaid and underrated sure alright FMK Georgia Missouri and Ohio

he's thinking the druthers are just going over his face as we stare at him yeah kill misery let's just kill misery okay we're gonna fuck georgia because

it's nice to visit for a little bit and then get out of there and uh yeah mary ohio it's nice here why not nice i didn't see you going there's a reason it's missouri misery even though i spent 10 years there and all my family lives there but you can get rid of it it's fine oh wait so your family transplanted to missouri from georgia i thought you grew up uh so actually i have like 150 relatives within 100 miles of st louis and my my dad and my mom were like we want to get out of here so they drove up and down the coast and decided that georgia seemed like a nice place gotcha gotcha gotcha so home base like your aunts and uncles cousins etc is all uh

missouri so i got you did that did that sway you were picking you know going to st louis for school then just to go uh yeah family mostly just because i never heard of the school that i went to before i talked to my cousin he was like you like biology you should go to wash you i was like wash you where the hell is that seattle no it's in st louwis it's fine yeah little washington and st lewis yeah that's the thing you know washington university i will add just because we're on this briefly is older than the state of washington so you know we were here first good deal good to know the more you know, some might say. Okay. Well, that'll leave us into our game. I'm going to try to... I can never hold a candle to what some of our other guests

have described the game as, but, you know, unpaid or underrated, if anyone's a new listener this week, for Big Sam specifically, similar to overrated or underrated, it's just better and more original. That's our take on it. So underrated means awesome, and unpaid sucks because no one wants to be unpaid.

We've got some hand-picked topics here for Big Sam to use his druthers on and tell us what he thinks, unpaid or underrated. I'll kick this off. Got a lot of good ones here. I'm going to go Big Sam, unpaid or underrated, the 1982 Kurt Russell movie, The Thing.

Underrated? Hell yeah. That's good. Was there any other comments? Someone had mentioned The Thing, I think, in one of the general, in one of the topics. Was it just because it's like in your

field kind of as a research person, or is that why The Thing was brought up? Have you seen The Thing? Yes, I've seen the original, the sequel. There was a sequel and a remake. I think it was a prequel, though. Because it was the other lab. It was a 1982 lab.

But then the one that they made like 10 years ago was the lab that the guy that got shot in the opening scene of the 1982 one was from and then they went back and they just saw like the bodies and shit like that was so it wasn't a remake it was like it was a technical prequel if i recall right so i want to hear obviously thunderbutts take on this one yep uh and then i'll have my opinion i don't know i don't really have much to say about the thing the only connection to me that I can think of this one is Kurt Russell was in the original Stargate movie

which was a masterpiece of cinema but yeah it absolutely was one of the most one of the most terrifying horror sci-fi movies ever made they uncovered whatever that thing was One of the most terrifying horror sci-fi movies ever made. They uncovered whatever that thing was.

It had the ability to mimic them. From a horror standpoint, just top tier. Just top tier. Because the thing itself didn't even have to be in the scene to scare the shit out of you. Because it made you question whether the people around you were the monster. Because it could take their shape. So definitely one of the highest ranked sci-fi horror movies. It's up there with Predator, probably up there with Alien.

Predator wasn't really horror. It could be, but Alien for sure was. But, sorry, I don't know why that was on there. I didn't... Yeah, I swear, it was on there and I pulled it from something.

I don't know, I pulled it out of my ass apparently. How much do you love Kurt Russell? But Stargate, was any of it worth the shit watching after the first movie because i have seen a few but i've seen some of the shows but god oh i just of it and it's i just really watched stargate atlantis oh i could watch it for the rest of my life i might give it a shot down that road um big sam unpaid or underrated topic. Number two, let's go with captains of crush.

So I just placed an order for my, uh, three and a half. I'm sorry. My two and a half, my three, my three and a half and my four. Cause I'm back to the point of doing reps with my,

with my two. Okay. And, uh, definitely, definitely underrated. They, uh, they will destroy your hands more so than anything else you can do in the gym.

And, you know, working to trading to crush a raw potato is something I think everyone should aspire to. So you've closed more than the two then? Like in a gym or someone else's? Or are you just guessing? No. 2 then? Like in a gym or someone else's? Or are you just guessing? No. I've never touched 2 and a half. You just dropped

$100 on the next 3 up and they get so much harder. You get like 20% off if you buy 4. Goddamn. I mean, I'll never have to buy another Captain's Accrescent for the rest of my life. Yeah, not unless

you... Not unless they make a new one. Good stuff. So that is the highest they go then, right? Yeah, the four is the highest. Technically, you can get certified after you close a three, but they keep going.

Okay. Well, my third and final one we're going to go with something that's near and dear to me well the opposite of near and dear something i fucking loathe so let's see where you're at on it so unpaid or underrated spreading mulch i am a person who loves absurd physical punishment for lack of a better phrase. I just did a strongman competition and then a powerlifting meet the next day where I had to do the entire

strongman competition fasted before I went to a powerlifting meet. So I had a ton of fun spreading 2,000 pounds of mulch in my backyard a year and a half ago, two years ago yeah it uh

there's just something about brute physical labor that uh that appeals to my soul and uh yeah underrated i get i get that aspect of it my my load loathing for spreading mulch was as a kid my parents had literally like 80 of our yard was fucking flower beds and i had to spread mulch and pull weeds all my childhood is like a fucking a chore that i was forced to do so i like i got away with not have fucking flower beds and not have mulch as an adult because fuck that i hated that shit as a kid but yeah like when i i've done shit like that like you know weren't running a you know running a shovel and a wheelbarrow and shit at work like Like, yeah,

it's a great fucking workout for sure. But this is traumatic for me to think back of like all the years, hours, like dozens of hours doing bullshit like that. I hated. So, uh, well,

I think for me, it's because I work in a research lab and I'm a scientist and 99% of my time is dealt with very small things. He had to be fragile and delicate with and doing, you know, lifting, doing raw physical tasks. It's just breaking the mold of what people expect of you.

Like I once had to lift, I don't know, either of you probably know what this mean, a bio safety cabinet. It's like a, it's a few months, it's like 2,500 pounds. And some idiot was propping it up on textbooks in a lab I was working in once.

And it fell over. And they're like, what the hell are we going to do? It's in this tiny closet. We can't get machinery in here. And they're like, I know who to call. So I had to go and lift this thing up. I was the go-to guy in the science lab if you needed something heavy-mode. It's a title I wear with honor.

Nice. One follow-up before i hand it over to joey have you met someone that rivals you in strength in your field oh in my field um someone you've worked with like in you know bay of isaiah in your field have i actually met someone in my no i work with the tallest lankiest motherfuckers you've ever met like without fail they're all like six foot two runners six foot five runners or like rock climbers some of those if you work with rock climbers bring your bring your bring your captains a crush in like rock climbers oh yeah yeah yeah so yeah my my my lab that i was in for my thesis work

he was a rock climber so yeah he had one had one of those fingertip hang things above his office door. And we would just screw around sometimes Friday evenings. Who can hang the longest? And he had me beat on that. But he only weighed 135 pounds. So did he really win? No. Did he?

It's funny because we've mentioned before where I work. And I won't say the name of the place. But sometimes I go in in the morning and there is an entire pallet of shit in front of where I need to be. And I won't wait for the forklifts. I will literally pick it up and drag it out of my way. And the look on their faces where I'm just like, it's in my way that I do.

That's 300 pounds. And I was like, it's in my way. I do. That's 300 pounds. And I was like, it's in my way. Like you can't. Yeah, I need to. I need it's in my way of where I need to be. I'm moving it. That's funny that you say that because like, yeah, I do that all the time. All right.

I guess I'm up unpaid or underrated. Now, this one has a little bit of a personal thing for me, uh, being cited in research articles, but hold on at masters. Because normally when you said earlier that you're, you're not even, you don't have a doctorate and you're still writing papers. That's incredible.

I have published five papers and I have an H index. If you know what that means, uh, I have published five papers and I have an H index. If you know what that means, H index is you've published N papers with at least N citations. My H index is higher than most junior faculty. And a lot of people listening may not understand. That's fucking incredible. That was so cool to see when you said like, I thought you were a doctor and you were like, no, I'm a master's. And I was like, I'm sorry, you have how many research papers published at masters?

So, yeah, so I was a product of being in the right place at the right time, talking to the right people, but also just being stubbornly persistent. But also just being stubbornly persistent. Even, I mean, my first paper I published as an undergrad, just because I found this problem. And my bench mentor ended up leaving the lab that I was working in. It was like, well, someone has to finish this project. May as well be me. And just kind of continuing that over the years. Yeah, so I finished with the master's.

I definitely could have finished a PhD if I wanted to, but at the end of the day, it was a question of, well, I know what I want to do with my life, and I could either stay in academia and get paid beans for the next three years, or I could go into industry and do the same thing I want to do and actually get paid a reasonable amount for it so yeah i think that's that's that explains that a little bit well i just wanted to put that out there i that that was so cool to hear and as somebody who's uh i've never been published but

because i did my bachelor's and undergrad and then even my teachers went no you hated this you wanted out i was like oh i fucking did i wanted out of academia so fast um that was just really cool to hear um so that actually leads me into my next one um unpaid or underrated uh fruit flies unpaid 100 percent how many how many fruit flies did you have to milk so okay my first research position i put in quotes was in a fruit fly genetics lab which the research was cool no doubt about it but my job was to go to the basement of the adjacent building and use what can only be described as a modern-day witch's cauldron to brew up gallons upon gallons of fruit fly food. And then I would take said fruit fly food. It has like boiling and smelling of citric acid.

Take it back to the lab. take these tiny test tubes that had 20 to 30 fruit flies in them and then transfer them individually from the old test tube of old rotting food to the new freshly brewed in the witch's collard tube that's gross

I hate fruit flies they're the worst but I got really good at not losing fruit flies while transferring them from one tube to the other I don't think there's anybody in the planet that's like you know what i fucking love fruit flies and bottle flies send them my way the thing is after you work in that lab most of those fruit flies are genetically modified yeah and so every day when i left work i would be like there's a fruit fly buzzing around that trash can outside the building.

Did that come from the lab or is that, you know? I hope that's not one of ours. And I'm pretty sure they're all genetically modified now. There's no way. There's no way they all stayed in those tubes. So, you know, if you're ever going to watch this campus, it's probably genetically modified. Oh, okay.

I thought you were going to say like every fruit fly is GMO at this point. I mean, honestly, at this point, there's enough labs doing enough research. I mean, Florida, I think it was Florida, released a whole batch of genetically modified mosquitoes like a decade ago. So they're probably all out in the wild. Great. They made one that was like resistant to some disease and they got permission to release it because they argued that oh no they're definitely

going to stay in this 10 acre plot no they're not if mosquitoes know anything it's it's boundaries yeah definitely fucking florida all right uh i might have two more let's see how the next one goes uh unpaid or underrated all you can eat sushi underrated i'm surprised we didn't bankrupt that place we went to so we me and my housemates we went to this place downtown that we found in st louis it's like a 45 minute metro away. And then this is when we were freshmen. And then we moved off campus, just off campus. And not one week later, we get this flyer left on one of our car's windshields. It's like, we've opened a new location two minutes down the road from you. We're like, oh, oh, it's on. So we went there at least once a week.

They're still in business. Now they have like 17 locations across the city. Good sushi. now you have to be careful when you tell you can eat sushi a lot of places not gonna end well but if you find a good place i mean let's get protein yeah i definitely definitely miss sushi after having kids because you can't go to sushi with kids so like like maybe oh i don't my we've taken our two or three year old now to sushi places he loves sushi my two-year-old she would be so fucking in right like because she just eats everything my four-year-old he will not eat anything that's not

chicken nuggets or grilled cheese but I distinctly remember going with my wife to sushi all the time okay sushi AI is the place to go that sounds made up

is that the place from the X-Files episode probably but it's real I've been there, I think. I'm not sure that Matt gets all his memes from. Yeah, that was another science fiction thing. Do you remember that episode? It was in the final season of X-Files where Fox Mulder refused to leave the tip

because they were robots. And then the entire episode was about AI robots chasing down Mulder and scully good times i should re-watch that series soon i love x files with up did you ever watch the revival i'm talking about the revival this is from that oh was that in the revival yeah there was i think one or two seasons in the revival there was one really fun episode with the lizard man who got bit by a human and it was that guy from um that was the australian guy and he was the lizard that got bit by a human and he was the werehuman god that episode was really funny and then this episode

actually almost had no dialogue where yeah yeah, they were at a sushi restaurant and Fox was like, I'm not leaving a tip for robots. That's ridiculous. And then the entire episode was them being chased down by AI just absolutely mad at them for not leaving

a tip. It's always going to be David Accompany when I grow up. I know. I want to David Accompany when I grow up. I know. I want to be Gillian Anderson when I grow up. It's always going to come back to X-Files with me at some point or another. Okay.

Last one. Bonus round. Okay. Underrated. Chewing loudly. Loud mastication. Oh, God. His reaction is broken. That's great. I love that.

Oh. I'm going to say underrated just because I know it pisses my wife off so bad. That and drinking water. Apparently, when I drink water, I just hold down like a 32 ounce bottle of water just in 10 seconds, but I'm just like I don't notice it. But she does. Oh, I would too.

I can't be bothered to sip water every couple of minutes for three hours. No, I'm getting my water in. I need to get hydrated. And then we're going to move on to the next thing. Okay, I do that in the morning too, but I do it quietly. Do you, do you chew loudly? Do you like, so I didn't think so until I met my wife. No one else in my life has ever mentioned it, but apparently my mouth is closed.

I don't know. I just have this sudden picture of you going mmm mmm you don't even realize it's not even the sound it's just like the sound my jaw make like I can't even register it

no that's not funny I'm picturing you literally going mmm maybe I should do that because math, whatever's annoying. You're just enjoying it so much. You're just like, hmm, hmm, hmm. That's actually what I'm picturing here.

I'm going to start doing that. That'll do. I'm going to start just making those sound effects and see if that blocks it out. What you want to do is you want to go to the Brooklyn Nine-Nine episode where they try and guess how Captain Holt

will react to marshmallows. And just do that every time you eat. Yeah, RIP Captain Holt. Just... And everything you eat. Alright, I guess you passed unpaid and underrated.

We'll give you this one. Did anybody else get disappointed? You didn't ride the line? No, you did not. Do you guys ever get disappointed when they don't say unpaid and underrated on the main podcast? I just... I think in my head it's just like maybe I hear it as ours.

What's really frustrating is like when I send out the show notes or when I send out the questionnaire to people I have to still put underrated or overrated like i can't even say it right it's such a foreign it doesn't even sound right it's unpaid or underrated like every time i hear tanner every time i hear tanner say it's like so we're ready to pay and i'll replay whatever the game is and i'm just like it's unpaid and underrated and then he says their version and I'm like no it's not I did hit Tommy with an unpaid

or underrated maybe even a couple I can't remember at least one when I was on there a few weeks ago so I did get our plug in on that so that was my claim to fame for that episode so it has been played on the sister podcast at least once alright

that moves us on to the next one keith what do you got i think we're on big sam's turn to uh hit us with something i guess where we're at so big sam you got anything prepared for us uh i think hogan's at the bar pretty high last week but the week before big chris said good night so it's kind of anywhere anywhere in between that between i got nothing for you boys and let's play a 20 minute game we'll take it doesn't really matter to us but you know all right well i'm gonna start i'm gonna start with what my wife said when she first pulled up the questions you sent her which was joey i have nothing to say about you that's what she said damn it god damn it

you've weaseled your way out of a 300 pound bench what are you going to do instead for strongman oh it's like the replacement oh i need yeah i need to set like a baseline for well what i really want to do like i wish the fucking strongman show had the the law of the axle because i can train the axle on my basement with no issue and i've gotten to where like i'm a seahair away from a 200 pound press and like i know i'm gonna like i could yeah like i want to do like a fuck dude two plates i have to see what what 245 is what's what's 245 on a 20 pound bar so 220 is that 205 right so that'd be 205 yeah yeah so i think my next my big goal i think would be to do two plates on my current axle because my current axle is 20 pounds okay doing two plates on that would be a 205 which i think would be to do two plates on my current axle. Cause my, my current axle is 20 pounds on two plates on that would be a two Oh five,

which I think would be 10 pound PR, um, on axle on axle. Uh, but as far as like in prep, that's what I think I need to like figure out. Like, I don't think my coach has ever done a strong man show prep and I don't

really like, I don't care whatever, whatever he throws at me, I'll do like, I'm not going to go hire a different coach just for a meet. Like I would just feel like I'd be neglecting my, the coach I've with for like six years so i don't want to like be like hey we're going to do a timeout for six months or whatever fucking three months so whatever he has me to do i'll do but uh the log i'm gonna have to get better at the log so maybe a i don't know 200 pound log

yeah like i think i'm stronger at axle than log because i i don't know like especially now like i think i have the i have the axle cleaning down a lot better technically it's a belt clean which you know depending on your rules it's you know i i can i i can't not clean if i have to because i can do that little like like half like that little like half belly bump to get it off the you know and then like i'm getting better at that so i just oh yeah 200 pound log. Yeah, I think 165 is my best log, but that's just because it was like all I did in a show, but I can Cadillac bar fucking over like push press 175. Or no, I did 185.

So a 200 pound log, I definitely want to hit a 200 pound log going in before the meet and set that as the baseline. I'm just, I'm worried about the attempts because I feel like my log attempts are going to be a lot lighter than all the other guys, theoretically. If I'm only at 200 pounds and it's a rising bar,

I might have to follow myself. I might have to at least have a break in between attempts. I'm going to potentially strategically base my attempts off of okay i need to wait two two two rounds but if it jumps up too heavy because they're going to 10 to 20 pound jumps i'm like well that's i'm gonna open up like 160 and finish it like 210

or something so it's like i got a small window before there might only be like one or two people taking attempts in there but yeah my axle with 245s per side to be fucking i'm gonna i'm definitely gonna do that but like when you're training for your show how much other implements are you doing that aren't what you're training for like i don't know how specific to really focus the next couple months i mean i would probably only do vlog once a week. And the rest of it would just be press, press, press. So still maybe cleans a little more. Okay. Yeah.

I mean, I would honestly even just do like barbell press is your main strength builder. Log is more about technique than anything else. What I can do is even if I don't bring the log, even if because I'm not going to want to go outside and fucking log press more than once. But I will. But I'll bring the log back down. i'm not going to want to go outside and fucking log press more than once but i will but i'll bring the log back down this will suck carrying that fucker downstairs but i think i can bring the log downstairs and still do cleans like yeah on a secondary day just clean to my chest and not press or i could do a seated press but i don't know if that's really beneficial because it's i mean it gives me your legs you can't really yeah but it'll still i feel like i'm gonna get as much out of the cadillac bar doing us uh because that's at least the neutral

grip so i tried to fucking down if you saw the video i was clean and pressing the cadillac bar today that was a fucker i could only get up to like 155 because it got i jumped i jumped i should i should have gone like i went 155 to 175 and I couldn't get 175. I felt like my biceps were going to explode because I couldn't lay it on my chest and roll it up my stomach. I was doing it all like free-handed and it was just too much. It was basically trying to curl 175. I couldn't do it. But there's a log locally I'm going to try to pick up maybe, but we'll see what Home Gym Com.

If anything, like at Home Gym Com just jumps out at me i'm gonna i might you know i don't know i have some extra money right now i'm gonna throw it strong man so we'll see but yeah uh whatever i can do man i don't know this is all new this is uncharted territory for me so well strong man's about having fun so just have fun and that's that's honestly why I did it. I knew I didn't want to be a sourpuss in July, so I don't think I can have a bad time doing Strongman unless I break my fucking dick on the first lift. Well, that does happen, so. Yeah.

All right, Joey, I actually have a question for you now. All right. What is that Christian deer behind you on the wall? Christian deer. There's like a deer with a cross jaeger meister yeah that's that's that's the jaeger meister logo okay okay the fact that he didn't i don't think joey got what you were asking about initially i was like oh no i knew exactly what it was again i've said it before yeah hold on oh dear god Oh, dear God. There we go.

That's the answer. That's the joke, because when you drink a Jager, it hurts. I'm not a Jager connoisseur. Neither am I. I just love Jager in general. Jager. Jager bombs. All right. Well. That's my questions. Yeah. Amazing episode. Jagabams alright well

that's my questions amazing episode alright let's bring it in for landing I guess affiliates hit on a few of these but one last time we got Obsidian we got Barbell Rescue we got Plate Snacks and Home Gym Con

code unpaid for all those to help save you a little bit of money Big Sam where are they going to find you on Instagram We got plate snacks and home gym con a code unpaid for all those to help save you a little bit of money. Uh, big Sam, where are they going to find you on Instagram? Thunder God dot four, two. Perfect.

Uh, big Joey, where are you at? Uh, still Joey underscore Malesko. I'm at least he's at K O. Uh, but just make sure you follow me at my orange gym at no wine cellar. It's the best place you can find me at the no wine cellar.

That's the best place you can find me and all of my kids. Awesome. And you can also find him at unpaid and underrated podcast on Instagram. He is a co-host of that Instagram page or website that Nate puts all his blood, sweat and tears into once he gets done with orange glaze, whenever orange glaze, uh,

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