Unpaid And Underrated - 052 : Bots Don’t Buy Tickets

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Jake from Garage Gym Experiment. They dive right into great topics like Coop drama, craft beer, Home Gym Con, middle names, having two year olds, living with women, and Amy Winehouse. Links Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) Our Guest On Instagram @garagegymexperiment (https://www.instagram.com/garagegymexperiment/) or his personal account @jakejaworsk (https://www.instagram.com/jakejaworski) His Podcast @garagegymradio (https://www.instagram.com/garagegymradio) Home Gym Con @homegymcon (https://www.instagram.com/homegymcon) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Jake.

all right everybody welcome back to episode about 500 of the unpaid and underrated podcast a podcast by crew for crew um mocked by crew fucking sponsored by crew joined by crew like i'm starting to wonder if this is uh getting too big for me like i liked it i liked when it was just me and you and like one other person and now suddenly there's just like people want to sponsor contests and competitions and on our behalf it's fucking wild it's wild i appreciate it if if you think that's scary uh there's something that might be coming down the pipeline that'll blow your mind so just i'm not going to spoil anything but just just put that little nugget in your head that's just going to have you go what the fuck you're talking about but no now i'm asking you what the fuck you know

i can't say anything you like i like you think i don't have general anxiety disorder like you can't do that and not tell me like then the executive dysfunction kicks in and i'll just stop i'll just leave uh anyway i'm joey i'm big joey not too not lately but big joey today um i am joined by big keith howdy howdy and big jake howdy howdy howdy howdy um so should we dive right in you guys ready to dive right in what are you drinking definitely what do you got this week jake uh i have a brie floyd's gumball head so this is an american wheat pale ale and um three floyds is may if you if you if you if you know anything about craft beer three floyds is probably the the best well-known one in um indiana okay what happened to the first two flights a dog there's a dog everybody there's

a dog there's my dog take there's a dog there's my dog we can take that off the notes I did have that as a one of the one of the checklist of cute dog that's in background of many videos yeah help probably like interrupt in an hour or so like wake up and be like what are we doing

still awake why are we still up in the garage yeah good stuff all right up and be like, what are we doing still awake? Why are we still up in the garage? Yeah. Good stuff. Alright. I've been extremely busy the last couple weeks, so I'm out of all the fancy stuff, so I just got the mandarin orange from Wegmans that's my go-to that is literally almost always stocked in the fridge, and it's the

fallback drink. I have a mango bubbly, and normally I'm not like a bubbly drinker and that mango bubbly hits like it hits yeah they really nailed it on that one what are you wearing over there this week big jig

I see a familiar shirt but you want to tell the audience what shirt you're wearing this weekend yeah real quick was that just big Steve chiming in from work? Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was hilarious. He must have saw the link and jumped in. He doesn't know.

It's actually the first time he's ever done that. So that's pretty funny. That was pretty funny. Yeah. I didn't know if that was like normal for someone to. Yeah. We we so we have the secondary discord that everyone that's been a guest, so there's about 50

of us in there, and we post the link in there so they can get on and look. I think they don't usually open up their camera. It's usually just like the audio, but it always kind of throws us off. I'm like, what? What's going on? Who's this? I appreciate when they do, and one thing that this is going to be

out there forever, but I'm going to put it out there. I appreciate the respect that when they join but and one thing that you know this is going to be out there forever but i'm going to put it out there i appreciate the respect that when they join they never unmute and talk over us that is awesome and i appreciate that you guys do that you're welcome to join and watch any episode but unless you know we invite you on i appreciate that you don't like talk over us that That's really cool. Indeed. Indeed. Back to what I'm wearing. So I'm wearing the strong man throw down at home gym con athlete shirt. So I was an athlete, but you know,

I was given this shirt and Jason, this was the strong man competition at, at home gym con just the other a few days ago which uh kurt ran that kurt locker yes kurt locker yes fellow crew member but kurt locker uh the same vein i'm wearing my home gym 2024 t-shirt uh i should have seen this coming so i'm wearing the first ever dilf dungeon shirt oh nice You got that made up special. Established 2024. Because that's when I made the name.

The gym's been around for years. I would go back to when the gym was born, personally. But that's just me. Well, the gym was the pit back then because it was back in the gravel pit. And then on the back, it says, you probably owe Amy Winehouse an apology. Don't get that reference. We were really awful to her. She made really great music,

and we were really awful to her. It's just an in general thing. Oh, just in general. We were just terrible to Amy Winehouse. There's a dramatization of her life, right, that's coming out soon? Yep. Might be worth watching. Yep. I was watching her. There's like a, there's a dramatization of her life, right? That's coming out soon. Yep.

Might be worth watching. Yep. But I was watching her when I ordered the shirt, I was just watching some of her music videos and I was like, damn, like we were so mean to her. Neil Patrick Harris had a like rumor. Allegedly.

I'm going to say allegedly, I don't want to get sued. Uh, had like a sushi made up a sushi platter of her dead body after she died. Because people were just so awful to Amy Whitehouse and her music was so good. I was just when I was making the shirt I was just feeling it. Nice. Well, I think

some great congratulations are in order. I don't really, I mean, maybe other people think I do but I feel I don't feel like to my horn too often. But this week is our one year anniversary from when we first recorded the pilot episode 52 weeks ago, roughly. I think actually the fourth might be the exact day. So like five dash four. But today's five two.

So that's close enough. This is legitimately been one year that I've been looking at Joey's face into a computer screen once a week, talking for 90 minutes to three and a half hours. And it's been a blast. Yeah, it's interesting how close we've become like i think i talked to you as much as i talked to morgan between you and nate in the group chat for sure like i talked to you guys more than i talked to work so that that's really cool um but also like how close we've become to some of the other crew absolutely yeah that was probably buried the lead with that one for sure. Yeah, definitely. Definitely the supportive crew is what got us here. Yeah. So we're 52 out of like 450 approximately.

So, you know, we got about eight more years of keeping this up. And, you know, even if Tammy and Toner, that's not their names. Don't get any more crew. That was a throwback. I think I think Karen got their name wrong on let's get stupid last week too or maybe the uh the huck finn warbell show and like she said the same way that i did yep yeah i was like oh i say that all the time oh we got to talk about that yeah i did a little huck finn uh meet up there uh he was he was he was being typical typical tom yeah not really his

scene uh he got me with the did you watch the video i haven't seen the video yet so he had a video uh where they pretended that they had a booth in the back and they got people to say uh big boot no what the fuck was it no i can't remember what it was something it was like four b's it was like bootylicious something or other and and it was just a gag and they did not have a booth and they were just getting it to get someone to say like the the that that that uh you know line four times or three times in a row and it was pretty funny he got me but no it was cool he recognized me by he was like hey keep that he cut and did like a little like 30 second thing and uh i mean they talked a lot of people

but that was kind of cool so that was uh. I don't know that it was his scene. Crew might be interested. And I don't know if you saw it in the discord when Karen was talking about the shirt, the lift heavy eat ass shirt. So that's a historical shirt. Yeah, because that's the shirt I wore to breakfast the day after the lift hard live easy. to breakfast the day after the lift hard live easy where i thought we were going to some breakfast podunk and we ended up in this fancy hipster place with all these families coming home probably from church and i'm wearing a lift heavy eat ass shirt and that's that's the historical famous shirt and it was funny that karen was like hey i saw this shirt online the other day and i

was like oh that's me i'm the idiot i don't think i've worn that shirt since by the way i think i think you're probably scarred by it yeah ptsd kicked in i hid that shit away i just give it to one of your kids they'll like it yeah wear it to school buddy yeah yeah it'll go it'll go over well uh now i would support them because they they did the whole like you know fuck you tango charlie shirt and they have the one it was supposed to say uh lift heavy pet cats but it ended up saying like someone else already had something like that so they went with the complete opposite direction and lift heavy eat hat it's not lick lick kitty cats yeah yeah and i'm just like i can't wear that shirt like i stop sexualizing cats i'm not

even it's just like i can't no that's the weird thing whenever i'll tell you keith and it's it's a thing that like i i might be fucking on the spectrum for this one but whenever anybody refers to vagina or vulva as a cat my immediate thing is why are you having sex with cats like i can't it's such a weird, I understand that it's a metaphor for people and like the words are homonyms or antonyms or whatever those words are, but where they're just like, I see that.

And I'm just like, no, like don't do that to cats. Like that's a weird, as much as I want that shirt to like support Tom and Karen. Yeah. I can't wear it. I can't wear that because stop making it weird

about cats. Exactly. That's what I feel. I actually think it's Smash and Pass, which is a friend of the podcast, the Mathnomics podcast. Smash and Pass has a, they've got a lift heavy pet dogs in Scottish accent and I think they have a lift heavy pet cats.

Who means? Anybody get the Crispy Boy banner or the crispy boy banner the lift flag that you're the lift banner that came out today on the sneaky link missed it i got it i uh i literally had like a 359 alarm set and i went to go look at it and i was like look i was on the website acting like it was just gonna be a regular link and i kept hitting refresh i was like oh it's not here then i'm like wait it's gonna be a sneaky link so it's just gonna be on discord so i hopped over to discord and he posted it like four minutes ago i was like motherfucker

so i must have been i think they only had like 20 or 30 they were sold out really quick oh yeah like within like five minutes there was there were people that say i'm like i got too witty in the notes section and by the time i went to go actually pay it was already sold out even though so i was like yeah yeah here's a lesson copy and paste your note comment uh actually remember when i was messaging earlier today and i was like like i have no internet access i'm trying to do all the show notes i'm trying to read up and do all the research for today it's because where i went their wi-fi is down and for some reason it's like a hole in the cellular world where I don't get 5G or LTE. I get nothing.

I couldn't even text you guys. So I just put my phone down. You should have just went to Columbus. You should have went in Texas. Or you actually have service. I'm the only one with service. Yeah, I think it's good stuff. Quick little thank you to Coach Karp and Big Joey E.

They both hooked me up with some crew gifts over the weekend at Home Gym Con. Karp got me an awesome crew shirt in orange with, like, the NWO, like, your Morgan's logo, but in orange. How dare he? I know, right? Shut up. I'm sure she gave it to us. If not, she gave it to me and I gave it to him. So, you know, close enough.

And then Big Joey E hooked me up with uh i took i bought my dinner one night so i was very appreciative of that so thank you sir and that was the gifts that i got that no one gave to joey but i don't have a dodzilla gym shirt so it's all fair and love and war nice what shirt what shirt yeah there you go nice i got the red and black shirt oh carp carp did send you that or that's no this is mine nice i got you this is one of several actually nice nice i love it i was waiting to unveil this actually at tanner's party um but as soon as you said you were going to announce carp's gifts i was just like the fuck he is i've had this shirt for weeks i've been hiding it from all of you yeah no he was uh i was stoked about it. It was a very good shirt.

I used that on the first session with my new log. Briefly, Joey hinted at earlier, I did spend some money this week. I picked up a Titan rackable log. Don't love the fact that it's rackable because it makes it a pain in the ass to sit it down on crash pads.

I'm still learning that, but I guess if I use bumpers, it's okay, but then I got to start carrying my bumpers up from the basement and shit. So still working that out, but I did uh dropped about four times that i paid for the log on the uh ab mat uh crash cushions for logs so those should be coming next week hopefully uh and uh you know more updates to come on what else i spend money on for this strongman

adventure that i'm going on so we should we jump into writing last week's episode yeah i suppose i mean the guests want to hear the the listeners should probably are eager to hear it our take on mathematics jake did you get a chance to listen oh yeah five stars easy nice uh diana i've never heard of diana price uh but damn accomplished accomplished strong as hell not to be confused with diana prince which is wonder woman which threw me off from like from the tv show then right yeah every time i looked at it i was just like what really she's like 80 yeah so uh fun episode uh still a lot more basketball talk than i'm really generally interested in so five five out of five mass nomics ipod touches that's a good one let me see if i can't come up with one so i think my favorite part was when she was talking about her husband

and how he's like semi-injured or retired i think but also a strong man and she was just like i can't be stronger than you like no matter what no matter how amazing of an athlete i am basically like you have to be stronger than me uh so i got a kick out of that uh so all in all a good episode i feel like i listened to it like a month ago even though it was a couple days ago this this past couple weeks have been a whirlwind so uh i even had to like go back to it and like listen to it on like just like scroll through a couple minutes just to be like which episode was this i'm so i've actually listened to like either yeah i've consumed two other massomics live podcasts since then that i'm trying to remember back like which which episode was this uh on but uh no it was having an olympia on was pretty crazy like they i'm curious if they'll ever get another one of those ones but uh

that was very cool i'm actually curious if anyone fact-checked that to verify there was no other Olympians because I think Tommy did a quick Google, but I don't know if anyone – I haven't seen anything in Discord, so I'm going to guess they have not had any other Olympians. And we know that would be one of the Davids. Yeah, I'm sure he called him out on it. Yeah, he would be one of the first. It's also likely now that one of the Davids is Repeated Anomics. I think that's making itself kind of clear.

I feel like some of those, I haven't seen as many of the Meme accounts being too active as of late. Half the crew only run Meme accounts, so I guess the secondary and third tier Meme accounts that I'm more thinking of. As far as Deanna Price's episode, I'll go ahead and give it 5 out of 5

Massonomics crew member Davids. 5 out of 5 massomics crew member davids i've had a five davids yes all right so crispy boy and lift banner sold out not even worth talking about i already got through that uh you will not get your hands on dem again uh do you want to talk about home gym con briefly or is that going to like be most of this episode yeah i think we can just we can hit that on more i mean i guess i could more my personal experience because i don't want to really take away from when we get the guests on the horn but all in all it was a blast uh traveled out thursday thursday night got there before technically open so i was like walking around with uh big joey e a lot just shooting the shit and just hanging out with vendors and like just

kind of it was weird it was interesting to see how like, like three quarter of the place, well, maybe, maybe half the place was a hundred percent done. A quarter of the place was still working like diligently and the other quarter hadn't even showed up. And this would have been like Thursday at like five, 5 PM. So, but then to come down Saturday morning or Friday morning to see it like a hundred percent ready minus a couple of people that didn't make it uh was pretty awesome to see it's just a great weekend hung out i think i met pretty much met every crew that was on the list that we talked about and there was a couple more that even showed up i think there was one crew that um it was a dude that i was like i knew on social media because he you know he messaged me a fair amount uh but i didn't really i didn't think he was crew

at the time but i think he joined a crew so he he did get a follow back on all the accounts once he actually officially became crews that was good uh it was just fun i definitely i think it was at least 10 10 different crew that i met for the first time and it's weird too because i've met a couple guys that we had interviewed or at least one uh joey i can't remember if there was any other ones that we had interviewed that i hadn't met in person yet but uh i felt like i just like had known Joey for years, you know, like two, you know, two and a half, three hour conversation. I really got a kick that in the Mass Anonymous YouTube video today, I didn't catch it. I think I might not have been there, but Tanner even called Joey, Joey E, which just made me laugh. So like that's like the trend that we set, just kind of coining him that I guess I got a kick out of that.

just made me laugh so like that's like the trend that we set just kind of coining him that i guess so i got a kick out of that uh on all just great weekend and i'll uh i'll chime in as we talk about home gym con more with the uh the guests but that was just my little uh you know had a blast all right well it looks like we've got one last general topic i want to touch on uh like touching stuff who the hell is coop and why do i care that he responded to something well jake jake might know more about that than us but not really uh there was this guy tim jim crafter who sent a very scathing thing about coop more of like uh we want the old coop back you know why aren't you at home jim kahn and I got it. Like, a lot of it did resonate. Might have been over the top.

Maybe didn't agree with all of it, but felt that it was worth sharing, because not a lot of people actually call Coop out. And a lot of people are kind of afraid to call Coop out in public, because they're just afraid of the fucking Coop army, which there's a lot of bootlickers that are all on all of his ass that'll come after you. But, you know,

Coop actually responded from his personal page not the ggr page they probably who knows if you even have that you know i don't even know who even has access to anymore but uh from his personal page and kind of like had a good like 15 minute response and literally went through almost like verbatim word for word everything he said and kind of had a rebuttal or like i can see your point to that and i just i thought it was the most real thing coopop's done in like four years. So you actually earned a little bit of my respect back after seeing that all in all. They did delete the, because I had shared Tim's video to the group and it was just, it was a fucking shit storm of comments in there.

There were, there was like, you know, a quarter of the people that agreed with Tim and then the other three quarter were just GGR enthusiasts that were just basically telling you to go fuck yourself and they were but then uh brandon was getting involved kind of coming to coop's defense uh a little bit and then even brandon was he even said like uh because someone just like instantly reamed brandon a new a-hole about something about how his content sucks now or something and then brandon is always a playful guy that he is he's just like wow i'm catching strays over here and i was just like that maybe i was rolling but i think i woke up the next morning and that whole thread was completely deleted and then i think by the next morning the next afternoon coop had had that long response but i don't know like i said i he gained a good amount of my respect back that he had lost over the last few years at least so hopefully we can see more of the honest side of him and not the fake, you know, pillar four front man.

Oh. Well, I... Jake agrees with any of that. I had a cigar and a beer and I sat in the sun and stared at the blue sky for a bit while all of that was going on. There's not a

whole lot of drama in the home gym community so when it is, it's usually pretty widespread, but I don't know. I guess I, oh, I did, uh, I essentially buried the hatchet a couple of times,

I guess. Cause I, uh, you know, I met cave on over the weekend, Joey's buddy. And, uh,

we kind of shot the shit and he knew who I was a hundred percent. And, you know, Ted had no beef and, you know, Ted had no beef and, you know, I was, it was a good conversation. He hooked me up with some bells and steel stuff.

He wanted to give me more stuff, but I was just like, man, I gotta, I just gotta carry on. Like I can't take any more. I was like, like,

no, you got some wrist straps and some collars or something. I don't know. I can't, I can't fit a belt in my back at the moment. My, my, my carry on sucked.

It was so full. Well, I feel like I talked over Jake for a minute there. Do you have anything to add to the whole Coop and Tim guy drama? No, I mean, I thought Coop did a good job of the rebuttal. I thought, you know, I met Tim over the weekend. He seemed like a really good guy. And, you know, I he he kind of went to the went into the argument without without facts which made the rebuttal pretty easy not saying he

was right in the first place um about coop but i thought it was i thought it was a little harsh on coop and then i thought coop did a really good job like i said on the rebuttal i thought that was interesting and you know i think a lot of people learned more things about garage and reviews that hadn't been made to the public which was which was good and then also like i don't i never i didn't really think um coop's content ever changed too much. I don't watch it that much, but maybe a few sales pitches on the YouTube, it seemed like. But in general, I thought if you get the Coop stamp of approval on your products's it's just such a big deal that's why that's why everybody is like eyeballing it so hard and so crucial about it so um yeah i think i think you

did a good good job of like fighting back and i doubt anybody else will challenge coop about that anymore yeah it's possible but i think my favorite part about it was just like i see my heart my biggest thing was like that's fine sell your company great make millions take care of your family great do you millions do you think he made millions oh yeah for sure um but like unlike unlike um who was the was the last company that just sold the – Bar Bend. Yeah, Bar Bend literally came out with a post.

You fold transparency about it. That's what we never got from GGR and Coop to this day unless I missed it. Maybe I'm completely ignorant and they made a public post saying it other than just the clear obvious of he went from a garage and then he went to a personal training studio and then he was in like a big warehouse and had a team and a group you know once he started saying team then it was obvious but like there's people that i think literally still think that it's like 100 funded by coop and it's just you know bootstrapped and he owns it all and you know that's not a thing so the fact that he actually more or less acknowledged that it was the first time i've ever seen a public statement that he does not own GGR anymore. And I thought that was great for the community and hopefully people can,

you know, use their own discretion on now what they have, you know, they might take it just with a, even if it's just the smallest grain of salt, you have to be able to take it with a grain of salt and knowing that that's, you know, not his company anymore.

He's just the face of it. I thought that was for the best, but we'll see. All right. Should we get an ad read before we get our guest on the horn? Jake, do you have anything you want to read about, hear about Massonomics? Yeah. I mean, Massonomics, Tanner and Tommy, two two the best guys you'll ever meet why wouldn't you buy some amazing shirts from them and apparel line top top of the line you know it's about something

about all i gotta say good guys buy their shirts buy their stuff that'll work yeah go to massnomics.com slash join join us here on the Dunn the Crew. Don't forget your Drink Spotter XL. It can hold your big dumb Stanley cups now and whatever silly stuff that you buy. Beyond that, you want to get our guest on the horn? Yeah, let's kick Big Steve out if he's still in here and we'll, you know. I didn't even look. No, he's not here anymore.

All right. Big Jake, is that you why are you why are you doing this like i've been here why are you saying and just getting me on the horn right now well you are live on unpaid and underrated so welcome to the show i'm here all right the telltale signs yeah um so uh this is going to be all about you going forward so big jake what brought you to massonomics oh i mean i've i've owned a few shirts um i just kind of wanted to get the inside scoop of what happens on the the discord channel um i've known tommy and tanner online for you know a few years and figured it's about the time i support are you uh actually i know you're probably a busy guy you don't know how many episodes you actually listen to or do you cherry pick some

masonics episodes so you're probably not a regular weekly listener um yeah masonomics you know i probably listen one in a month. That's not bad. That's more than some of our past guests, but probably less than others, but it's right in the wheelhouse. So, be good stuff. Yeah, I'm not necessarily like a power lifter

or don't really live in the power lifting world. So, like some of the guests, I just, they're not the most interesting to listen to i'd say yeah especially especially when they got that big keith guy on he's he's been on too many times yeah but i mean i i do enjoy their episode i do enjoy their their banter i think like you guys have you guys have this skill too to to just like BS your way for like hours and hours. And, um,

I definitely think that it's a cool skill to have something that I don't necessarily have. It hasn't, but I feel like ours came with time. Like, I don't know. I can always shoot the shit, but I even like looking,

I don't think I've ever listened to our first couple episodes. Like I, I might, I don't know. Like, should we listen to their first episode like a year later and just see how bad and awkward it is that's something

maybe I'll wait two years but yeah well you can Joey doesn't listen to Masonomics backlog he's first not gonna listen to our backlog oh fuck that I hate listening to our episodes because it's like it's funny and I'll be laughing along with me and you i guess and then i'll start like i should have said this i should have said this so yeah i don't even i second guess myself i i

need to listen to them more often just so i have more fresh stuff for the for the instagram because i'm like how do i make a relevant like story i don't remember the podcast it was like two weeks ago uh especially this week too like this we haven't remember the podcast it was like two weeks ago uh especially this week too like this we haven't recorded in like 10 days so I feel like we've been off for a month so this is like you know getting back into the saddle uh Jake if they wanted to find you on Instagram uh where would they go looking for you uh most likely I mean you can do my personal account at Jake Jaworski or you know I run this account called Garage Gym Experiment it's not really about me, but.

And you have a third one, too, don't you? At Home Gym Con. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, this event called Home Gym Con. Yeah, we want to plug as many places they can, you know, find you and support you. So go ahead and pause the episode and go make sure you follow on all three of those so at least at least at least home gym con and garage experiment you know on his personal page doesn't get a whole lot of i was i was i was deep diving for some like dirt and questions and i'm like all right there's a post from 2021 and one 2017 i was like okay

but you did have a you did have a gge jake for a minute too and i think you decided that like four instagrams was too many yeah the yeah and i also run garage gym radio and yeah there was just there was just too much and the gge jake one i i thought there was like potential to do some things but it was just yeah too too much and i don't necessarily like get getting on camera and self-producing things so we're gonna make sure that this episode specifically has youtube video uh and that your face is just front and center the whole time we're just gonna be zoomed in i'm just kidding so i don't work i don't mind the long foreign conversations like this it's it's more like the the constant pressure to to figure out what instagram posts

i should put from my home gym workouts gotcha really hard really hard to do consistently so those that have done that props i post so many workout stuff like it's to the point that i'm like oh i gotta you know get this good video for this and this good video for that and i gotta tag my coach in this story and then i have like i use the stories as like a way to like archive a lot of my lifts too like i'll i will like i have so many different story highlights on my my personal page that are like different lifts like squat bench deadlift overhead and it's just like it's a good way for me to archive and go back and quickly look and be like all right cool i was you know only doing like 135 pound overhead press like two years ago and now it's like you know 70 pounds more so when hey i have a question

jake jake are you standing right now like are you at a standing desk yeah that's awesome i wish i thought of that so i I do have a podcast as well. And this is my setup. That's great. That's great. I wish I had thought of that. This wobbly chair is going to kill me one day. I'm on one of those core friendly, you sit on it, it wobbles around chairs.

It's going to fucking kill me one day. Yeah. Well, this is like a little workstation desk. me one day yeah well this is like a little workstation desk you know like it's up on a cabinet that i opened up and um kind of one of those work desks you put in your garage that i just kind of turned into a little podcast area i dig it have you been when did you uh so ggr that's been about or well when i say ggr is going to be on this in this context garage gym radio uh three four years ago? Was that like post-COVID, immediately post-COVID, or maybe like 2021?

I'm trying to think back to when we started listening to that. I think it's been a little over two years. Okay, so that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, because I think I was on that within the first year or so. And then that was probably within a year of starting this. So yeah, the last two years sounds about right. Yeah.

I definitely have some deep dive stuff on the podcast later. But let's just dive into where do you live? Where are you from? Where have you been? Where have you taken the family as far as living? You guys have been in the same place? Yeah, so I'm from South Bend area, so northern part of Indiana. And then ever since college, I've been in the Indianapolis area, which is central part of the state, the capital, a larger city. central central part of the state the capital a larger city i'm in the suburbs now um but so it's i've been in indianapolis for 13 years now um vacate was the vacation well yeah just it's more

we've had some guests that have literally moved lived in like 30 places so oh yes so i yeah i've been in indiana my entire life nice yeah i'm uh i that would uh not be bad with me like i'm outside of my one big move from west virginia like i've i'm content with being where i'm at as long as i can be until the old lady drags me out of here yeah yeah i mean i've got kids in school i'm not gonna i don't plan on moving you have two kids or three kids i can't remember two kids two and eight yeah nice big old gap there that's yeah how do how do they get along with that six-year gap or the two-year-old i mean i guess they don't really like how's the eight-year-old treat the two-year-old uh they treat each other well it's it's it's more like the the biggest issue is they have obvious interest differences.

For example, if someone wants to watch TV, it can be kind of like, no, it's my turn, no, it's her turn, blah, blah, blah. I mean, they love each other and get along well, but they don't really... And they do play with each other sometimes but in general the eight-year-old kind of like acting like a teenager already sometimes but yeah two little girls gotcha so then because everyone's not familiar they didn't listen to jake's episode on mass he is full-time at Garage Gym Experiment. Quit the 9-5, going out to work

in 2017, I believe. At least somewhere in that frame. 2021. Garage Gym Experiment started in 2017, so then you bootstrapped it until 21. So now, does the two-year-old stay at home with you all day?

Or does the two-year-old go to day with you all day or is two-year-old go to daycare while you do gg stuff definitely daycare okay yeah that would probably be hard to do get your content out and run off the websites and everything while maybe on the hip for sure yeah you ain't getting nothing done with a two-year-old in the house i phoned morgan today and because i was phoning on my way home from work i have a two year old jake and she's just freshly too and all i can hear in the background is i go outside can i go aside i go aside and my wife is going no like nobody's ready to take you out i'm doing dishes oh okay i go aside you're not going outside i get a hat and then she goes and puts on her hat

and goes i go aside and then it was like this for like five minutes you ain't getting nothing done with a two-year-old in the house not a chance did you get your uh massonomics hall of fame card in the mail you might have missed that i don't know no i think i joined right after yeah well that was that was that was some ace time in there jaco come on knock that one off the list of things to ask uh so we got your nickname is jaws is that pretty much everyone with your last name is nickname because i was trying to like i did a little googling and there was actually like multiple people like they're like one of the first articles was like a coach there's like nickname was jaws and i was like okay this gotta be a pretty common thing then

yeah there's a famous there's a famous football player ron jaworski he was a quarterback for the eagles maybe in like the 70s so and his nickname was jaws i don't know any other nobody else in my family has the nickname jaws uh just me i think probably because i was a football player and a bigger dude and it just kind of fit but but i imagine there are other jaworskis out there with the nickname just yeah it's it's uh it's that low hanging fruit that uh our podcast is known so well for uh so speaking of football so you uh not only were you a high school football player you actually went on to play some what d3 offensive line didn't you that's correct i played nice uh d3

offensive line at wabash college nice and in in is it in indiana yep it's in Crawfordsville, Indiana. It's a small town, maybe an hour northwest of Indianapolis area. Gotcha. So basically still go home on the weekends pretty easily if you needed to or if you wanted to go back to home? For sure, if you wanted to, yeah. Nice. Do you playing all four years or five years or just you know what was your uh a lot of people that go to college like you know seldom make it throughout the whole uh you know stint of their playing years yeah i did not make

it i i had to stop my junior year because of concussions oh jesus yeah how is that uh so that was you were probably what 10 or 15 years removed from that now completely fine health-wise or is that something you're like work with your doctors on just uh you know make sure you're up to snuff yeah i think it was it was i never like really noticed any differences but i was it got to the point where i was just getting them too easily um so like once once you do get concussion a concussion or two or some bad ones then it they it just becomes easier to get your next one and i definitely wasn't going pro so like you know it is what it is um but yeah i have no lingering effects at least to my knowledge. Yeah. So.

Now, this is where I would ask you again, you know, about the same question, but I think you're a little too short. We had a guest on earlier that had some concussion issues. And we basically, you know, it was just a running bit, just asking the same thing 10 times. And he played along great. It was perfect. At first, I thought he actually, like, didn't remember that I asked him. And then I was like, he tricked me, basically. He was so good at acting.

To make it worse, no, Keith, it wasn't concussion issues. He has a brain injury. Well, from the wreck, right? Yeah, it's called an ABI, an acquired brain injury. It's a little different than a concussion. In case you guys didn't think Keith was a piece of shit enough, I wanted make sure I slid that one in there fuck everybody that's got a problem with me I don't care what do you got for him Joey

I don't know I'm seeing loves numbers and loves spreadsheets I feel like that's more of a you conversation yeah tell us about i yep tell us about selling equipment during the pandemic it sounds like you were uh on the good guy side of everything on that one selling equipment during the pandemic was easiest thing ever so i mean i i personally would never like gouge anybody for gym equipment and i didn't put up too much equipment during that time like on marketplace but when i did it was usually at a fair price and it was just you know 20 messages within 30 minutes of is this still available so so yeah i mean it was

it was easy and then you know also like during during covid just like growing garage gym experiment was incredibly easy because there weren't too many home gym resources. And when, when that happened, you know, there were just a handful of accounts that grew like crazy during that time. Yeah. No,

go ahead. I was saying there's something that even, I feel like disappeared, like they blew up and then just like are gone now. Well, it was a, it was a garage gym power lifter, but I think he actually had some like very,

I think his wife passed away. So that's probably not the same story uh no but there was i'm trying there are others that have like completely blown up and then just tanked so that was good to i'm sure i'm sure you took a pretty big hit like post-covid i imagine like in followers but be able to be able to still be as big as you are you know and still keep growing but i think i feel like everybody's like peaked with like what would you actually i I don't know, maybe I'm being inaccurate. Like, did you have a higher follower count, like 2021-ish than you do now? Or is it about the same?

Or because I feel like there was like a thing where just people just flocked to home gym accounts and then just left once they were back at commercial gyms. Yeah, ever since maybe 2021, maybe later in the year, I've been right around that 200,000 mark. So it'll fluctuate between like 198 and 202. I don't know if I've hit 202 yet, but like 198 to 201. So somewhere in that range.

And it's not something I really keep too much track of. But it's been there since maybe 2021 so no massive losses then just nice but also no gains yeah I am familiar with no gains I was muted

Jake did you happen to notice Keith professionally like at a raccoon level eat those two meat sticks were you able to see that i'm sure dead oh fuck you guys i was hungry like that was one fluid movement he put one end in his mouth tore the package apart and like caught the stick as it was flying out in his mouth like that i've never seen anybody do that that it's like a baby slim jam i know i've got a whole box of them i love them but like that was wild that was like popeye eating a spinach can that's how easily you did that so i just wanted to go i'm pretty sure he was still talking too he was just in the middle of it yeah and he's just like rip and it was gone oh there's gonna be some bad there's gonna

be some very vulgar memes made about this topic you bastard oh it's gonna be so bad how would anybody make that vulgar yeah meat stick in his mouth yeah oh only you would go there sir yeah uh so what uh what what podcasts are under your umbrella um i so i feel so i feel like there's so many early so just uh so the listeners can know some other uh podcasts that you basically manage or host or support if you will i don't really it's hard how to describe it yeah Yeah, so Garage Gym Radio is my podcast, which is the Garage Gym Experiment podcast where we cover more like home gym news and surveys and just general topics

for like home gym, the most passionate home gym owners. Home gym history, Rob or Vintage Ways PGH, he kind of dives into the history of strength and uh equipment and those sorts of things and then um kyle or kaizen diy gym and nice like mike have the do you even lift bro podcast where they just pretty much chat between the two of them about home gym stuff as well.

And they're, they're, they're not really afraid to give their like unfiltered opinion, which is awesome. And they're, they just have a good vibe as well together. And anyone that's not familiar, like his episodes come out like 18 hours later,

12 hours later. Like I don't, I've never, well, at least the garage experiment and the other, you know, Rob feel like, feel like Rob takes a month to get his episodes out from what i know he's recording sometimes but uh uh i feel like i was on an episode once and it was literally out at like 10 o'clock the next morning it's like holy shit uh so that is yeah i don't really edit them and

the podcast is really kind of like a secondary thing. So like, it's all right. If it's, if it doesn't come out perfect, it's yeah. Good, good, good.

Um, so numbers, what did, what did Adam mean by you love numbers? Just more of like the, uh, the, also,

if anyone's not familiar, Jake does the, uh, the garage on the garage experiment usually sunday it's been a while since i've seen it or at least maybe i'm not missing maybe i'm missing him we've been a little busy uh he does the polls uh you know the the you know pick pick this one out of the four etc and then you know tallies all the numbers up so maybe is that where he's getting is that where he's going with or was there a deeper love of numbers we're not aware of?

Yeah, I think that's what he's going with. And yeah, just haven't done it with Home Gym Con. I was pretty busy and didn't get the surveys out and stuff. Makes sense to me. But my career was marketing analytics before I was able to turn this into my full-time job. So a lot of it just kind of transferred into some of the home gym content that's created more specifically with those surveys. And just kind of like a business analyst role where you present the numbers and make a case for certain things just like

you would do in a normal job. Nice. What music are you listening to when you're running a half marathon? Just about everything. You know, country, rap, some rock.

Yeah. I hear you're a big marathon guy. Joey's always eager to talk about music. I just didn't know if there was a certain I got to listen to this when I run this level or I got to listen to this when I'm lifting this kind of weight.

You're not one of those anarchists that freaking podcast that listen to podcasts when you work out are you i do i listen to podcasts and i also listen to audiobooks i can why do i do an audiobook more than a podcast when i work out i think yeah so i i definitely i definitely do sometimes if i'm like oh this just isn't hitting then i'll turn music. And I'm also not that much of a marathon guy. I've done one marathon. Adam is the ultra marathon guy. you know like 90 of this is like auto-populated by like me just knowing you because i got jacked shit from most people your sister gave me a bunch that we'll dive into in a little bit but i was kind of saving that for when we hit a if we hit a wall because she's got some stuff to ask so numbers and spreadsheets all kind of go craft beer guy um and you know not knowing sorry it's indiana right yeah so not knowing anything about indiana do you do this thing

where you like when you're traveling you specifically go and try local craft beers a hundred percent yeah yeah okay so i'm i'm i'm a nerd like that too um tell me about the best time that you went to some city or some state or somewhere and you were like whatever this is i'm gonna have it and it turned out to be amazing um nothing's really coming to mind i mean i think like just going to florida and getting like florida craft beers um those always are nice to have like on the ocean even though there's like quite a bit of variety of beers you know just even diving through that and getting the local like port lauderdale craft beer or whatever um i've always done that um see ashville has some good breweries um you know i just if if ever i'm traveling i usually try and find a brewery in town and and drink their beer my town has like five or six breweries now right and you know i used to be

on a member of one of them but there was no roi for me anymore because i don't want to go into the city but yeah i do that a lot. Just like wherever I am, I'm just like, where are these people? They're like a mile away. Let's go, let's go have a beer at this weird place.

Yeah. And like, it's a gamble. Sometimes you get our specialty is sours and you're like, ah, I'll try one of your sours. I traveled. I like sours.

I don't really like sours at all, but like, if that's what they got that's what i'm gonna have too right so i thought i'd put that one out there not uh i don't know i do not dabble in that hobby but i you know i enjoy i enjoy people that have passions so i will never knock someone for experimenting i'm just i'm not the experimental guy give me give me my mick ultra and i'll drink two of them and i'll be happy yep got my keats there you go so jake actually is it is it's jacob as i learned from your sister she referenced she referred to as jacob a few times and i'm like thinking to myself for a second

like who the fuck is jacob and who is she talking about I didn't but it took me a second to put two and two together and then like every time she's mentioned you by name it was Jacob so I got a kick out of that um and then I did check the dms today from one of her last messages uh she gave me a little she made a little tidbit on the middle name that we didn't that I don't know if anyone knew about so do you want to share what your middle name is and if you've ever it's got to be a funny story with that like someone there's got to be something yeah he was born and it was his like how is that a funny story it's a unique name go ahead jake my my middle name is valentine yeah i've never met a hell of a name it is it it is um but when you're a shy little boy it's it's kind of embarrassing and i was definitely the type

the type of kid that like would turn red anybody anytime anybody would say like oh valentine um so i mean once you get older it's nicer to have it's just like a nice conversation starter you know some brings you some good attention but but yeah it's definitely not like something i loved growing up because i was totally the type of little boy that would turn red and even like you know even when i was like 12 and a teenager it's not something i love so you you wouldn't give the name to a to a future son then you're saying i don't know i don't think so So you wouldn't give the name to a future son, then, you're saying? I don't know.

I don't think so. Middle names are so weird. People get so caught up in them. Mine's Edward. My middle name is Edward. I'll put that out there. I can see how, as a small child, Valentine is like, you would be afraid to tell people that because like, what are they going to say? That's not manly.

Right. Yeah. I mean, it fucking is. If you're a man, like that's what makes that manly. So I just, it's a weird thing.

I, people, whenever you ask them their middle name, they're always like, Oh, I don't want to say, I don't want to tell you. So yeah.

I hate, I hate, I hate sharing my middle name. Are you JVJ? Would that be your... Yeah, that's badass. That's almost as cool as Jean-Claude Van Damme. That's JVJ.

No, your middle name's fine, Keith. It's your first name then. What's your middle name, Keith? Keith. I'm David Keith. Oh, got it. Yes, sir sir the bane of my existence so david's so you grew up in a house full of women how was that just complete estrogen and then did you think that contributed to your shyness and just, you know, maybe not being as outgoing just because you were in a room full of women?

Or how did that affect your childhood, do you think? Oh, man. This is kind of like therapy. That's the welcome to the Unpaid and Underrated Podcast, buddy. This is, you know. I don't know. I've. I don't know. I've never, I don't know if I've ever really even thought about this. I feel like I need an hour to play.

No, that's fine. I don't know. Here's my impression of Keith asking that question. Are you ready, Jake? Are you ready, Jake? Are you ready? I've never spoken to a woman. I don't know what living with a woman is like.

Can you tell me if that made you the way you are? Well, I guess from a perspective, I grew up like my mother and my wife are the women I've ever lived with. And, you know, I have two brothers and my dad. So it was always four to one like male to female ratio uh and i know how like outgoing i can be and vulgar i can be i just i have no i have no so i'm asking i guess more for my ignorance i've never lived in a house with more than one woman i don't know what that would be like yeah i would say it's definitely less less vulgar um yeah it's not like i just wouldn't run your mouth like that around them um you know i i don't i don't know i mean i see i see like bam like i have two little girls too right and i see and i see um parents And I see parents with boys, and the difference is just insane.

So, I mean, I definitely think it probably had some sort of impact on me. I was the older brother, maybe the protective older brother. So I don't know how that correlates to who I am today. I think we need to do any protecting of the little of the younger sisters. You ever have to step in and be the big brother that actually like threatens to, you know, you know, any drama you ever had to kind of like step into. I don't I don't think I ever like threatened anybody, but I don't know. No, I don't think I don't think I ever like threatened anybody but I don't know no I don't think I don't think so really I think the presence was there though like my presence was there yeah I mean at any

given time you know if they knew your sisters well enough they knew that someone could uh it would just be tea time and they you know it'd be time to get laid out you want to tell the listeners what tea time is you don't know it would be time to get laid out. Do you want to tell the listeners what tea time is? You don't know what tea time is? What's tea time? Oh, so this is what your sister said.

That it's growing up that you would just yell tea time and tackle them. I must have been like 10 years old. Eight years old. This is a comedy podcast. Adjacent, at least. I guess she would have, maybe she remembered. I don't know. I was going off what your sister told me.

She said, she literally said it was, you would scream tea time from across. Like she was animated when she told me to the two. So maybe, maybe you guys, except you see each other. Maybe if your stories line up, because she was like, yeah, he'd yell tea time and like sprint at us and like spear tackle us. I don't know. I wonder how long that lasted, because I don't really. Yeah, I'm sure I do kind of remember it. Long enough that she remembered it. Yeah, she remembers it.

You must have been terrified. I wonder if we asked him before the concussions here to remember it. Maybe that's it. That too harsh? No. Okay. So grew up in a house of women. Does anyone still call you Jakey Poo?

No. Okay. I think there was a, I guess you had a, I don't, I, there was a whole story with some like a girlfriend or a crush or something that she called you Jakey Poo and like elementary school or something. Didn't remember. Okay. Second grade. Yeah. Second grade. Okay. He remembers that but not tea time. Yep. No.

No tea time. I do vaguely remember tea time. Yeah. So I got a fun game. I'm gonna you know, it may or may not be a segment. We'll see how it lands. So it's gonna call it hardest and most fun. So I'm going to give you some topics and you tell me the hardest part about it and the most fun part about it.

I like it. So, uh, so hardest and most fun running garage and experiment hardest thing about it and the most fun thing about it. Um, the hardest part about it is just all of the little details that go into running a business. Um, the hardest part about it is just all of the little details that go into running a business. Um, in terms of like keeping the website up to date and staying on schedule, um, those sorts of things, just like always on might be the most, the most difficult part and then uh the funnest part is honestly just like

the fact that i have my own freedom to do what i want just like the the benefits of running your own business and also the fact that it's like within my my passion and my hobby helps as well because I truly just love this stuff. So I feel very, very appreciative that I can do that. Awesome. So I would say kind of similar, the, the most difficult part of the most difficult part of home Jim con is, is either just like the, the last details, um, that those last few weeks, there's just so many little things that you kind of like have to hammer down,

uh, to, to get right. And then, um then also just the pressure of putting on events at a larger scale and the fact that you're kind of bootstrapping it is because you're pretty much putting your business on the line every single time you take the next step.

So basically everything, you know, that happened in year one, you had to put into year two. And then this year, everything is going into year three. So if for whatever reason it doesn't work, you know, it's over and I'm going to go, you know, you go back to the corporate job. So I would say that's, that's, that's kind of the least fun um the most fun is um i would say the initial initial sign up seeing like initial sign ups when you first um start start a new a year and then also just the event itself it, um, it's very exciting. Um,

the beginning and, and then also the, the, the actual event. And I think the way you answered that might change my segment from, uh, artists to like, what did you say? The least fun and most fun,

I think is going to be the new game instead of hardest and the most fun. Cause I like, I like least fun is just kind of, you know, flows better. So, uh, least fun and most

fun post uh things about hosting a podcast least fun i would say is is scheduling guests and trying to squeeze it in on the calendar um and then just also like my co-host adam he is a full-time teacher so like we're usually school and like we're both parents so we're usually squeezing the episodes in after after night uh or like after we put the kids to bed so it's usually like nine o'clock at night which you know every once in a while can be difficult i'm to bed. So it's usually like nine o'clock at night, which, you know, every once in a while can be difficult. I'm sure like it's, it's tough on you guys too.

She's like, okay, another week, gotta, gotta suck it up. This week. It's like some, some weeks it's easier than others.

Um, so I would say that's the least fun, but then like the most fun is just recording that. Like, this is a basic answer, but once you're going and you're going, it's fun. So I usually have a good time on the podcast. They go by very fast. And it's just fun to talk shop, whether it's with Adam or with someone I'm interviewing.

I dig it. You guys haven't had it. Do you have any interviews coming down the pipeline? I feel like most of your episodes have just been you and Adam doing the data research and stuff. You get minimal in-depth interviews as of late, I feel. Yeah, I would like to. But yeah, it just hasn't happened yeah it goes back to the to to the least fun part they are it's just hard like i mean because at

least we have the luxury of like we people that want to be on the podcast not i'm not saying people don't want to be but i mean like people are in our thing to be like in the it's like a it's like a bonus to be on our podcast kind of thing so we have a pool we have a pool to pull from at any time right i've literally got this is what you're saying yeah i've got 12 weeks scheduled and i got 50 people on a backlog no you've done it so you what i've noticed you guys done a really good job is like you have you've done a very good job of organizing the schedule so you have a specific time each week you stick to it and then you you schedule everybody in advance whereas like i'm just winging it i'm just like hey come on you i've been part of that i've been uh it's it's like it's like eight o'clock tonight before

you guys won't be on a podcast tomorrow at like 9 a.m i'm like well yeah i guess it is christmas vacation so sure i'm available but any other time i I'd be like, nah, I'll be at work, homie. We'll do it live. Yeah. I mean, that's the issue, too. If I'm looking to chat with people like you guys, who are probably working a nine-to-five, everything else has to be at night. And I've got kids, and it's just sometimes difficult to schedule we definitely can relate uh but yeah we even we have to like like we've we've flexed i mean it's

almost always the thursday at 8 30 but you know life happens we gotta you know especially but with our schedule at least we're good enough to react like a month in advance and like i kind of like i guess i'm trained at work that i pretty much have to have my vacation in at least a month in advance and like I kind of like I guess I'm trained at work that I pretty much have to have my vacation in at least a month in advance because our schedule is like at least a month out so I'm kind of I kind of bring that mindset into the podcast like I want to I want like I want to be able to give the other guys like a month's notice

to get rearranged if we have to change a date so big Jake or as I should call you does anyone call you Jaws or is that just a thing from like a child or like football and stuff? Does anyone in your adult life now still call you Jaws? Yeah.

Many of my friends still call me Jaws. Yeah. So in that vein, we're going to play a little game of has he seen it adjacent to has he seen it? How many of the Jaws franchise movies have you consumed? I believe there's like four or five. Probably five. At least four. Zero.

Really? Wow. And you're a few years younger than us, but not too much. How old are you? You're early 30s, right? 35. How the fuck have you not seen Jaws on TNT like every other day? I just... Come on, man. I didn't grow up with cable.

Okay, that makes more sense, I guess. Okay, so I'm gonna add a game. Just because that one didn't fly. I'm gonna FMK these three Jaws' Okay?

Jaws, the James Bond villain. Jaws, the James Bond villain. Jaws, the shark. And the Jaws of Life. F, M, and K. Well, I think I'll... Marry the Jaws of Life. I saw that coming, yeah.

Yeah. I think I'll kill the James Bond jaws and I'll let's just say I'll F the shark here's a bonus question for Joey because he's a pretty big movie guy i feel what was the name of the you know the the prop shark from the jaws movies at least the first one

the fuck would i know well i've just i've seen a lot of random like jaws history stuff so it was i believe it was bruce if anyone's curious so a relevant fact that i know fuck you yes that was great that was great thank you better than my last game what what's what what did you glaze the jaws hold on uh probably i would guess let's go glaze search i actually did just listen like i listen to a lot of podcasts like that like recap some 80s movies and 70s movies sometimes and they did. I think I listened to Jaws 2 within the past couple weeks and I could remember pretty much

line for line in that movie. I typed in Glaze Search and I got a lot of recipes. You thought I'd get sexy stuff, but not. Nope. No sexy stuff. My internet knows me well. Is it GlazeSearch.com? I i'm not sure i know it's got a widget

or something though i think or it's it's in the favorites uh so not growing up with cable how was college uh getting did you get cable in the dorm room or you know when did you when did you start consuming media yeah i got cable in college and I remember like watching like MTV reality shows and be like whoa these are crazy um there were like some oh man like what

who was the rocker the rock um Bret Michaels his like uh dating show I don't know it was more just good to watch much sports okay a lot more sports on cable yeah that's true so did you guys watch did you guys like movies or anything like what was your entertainment as like a kid in a house without cable or did you not have a tv tea time oh we had yeah we had

cable was just expensive so you have many years with like like fox cbs nbc abc yeah we had that and then yeah we had we we rented movies you know you'd go to blockbuster or and then i remember i remember when netflix started delivering dvds oh yeah yeah i did that for a few years definitely did that um yeah i mean okay so i didn't know anything different so it was normal where so my my wife grew up without a tv so like i i'm familiar with like being in some with you know knowing someone that's like just like stuff that i grew up watching like she just doesn't get like, she's only like consuming.

I mean, she didn't really consume media and TV until like college basically. But, uh, you know, we'll go with, uh, play a little game Mount Rushmore if you want.

So top four, um, hopefully you get a couple. So favorite movies, Mount Rushmore. So top, top four favorite movies for Jaws. Okay.

Jaws one, Jaws two, Jaws three, Jaws four. Um, gladaws 4. Gladiator. Nice. Let's see. What's my...

Maybe The Hangoverover the first one second one didn't it yeah um what was it what was the best batman the the or the second christian bale one probably i think most people would say, right? Yeah, which one was that? The Dark Knight. The Dark Knight. Let's throw The Dark Knight in there.

Honestly, I'm also not a huge... I like movies, but I just don't watch too many anymore. Let's see old school there you go it's not a bad little bit of comedy a little bit of action that's that's kind of in the vein of most most guys our age i feel yeah a couple couple comedies couple action movies yeah and gladiators on a lot of people's lists for sure yeah that was, that was the one that if someone said, what's your favorite movie for many years, that's what I said. Nice.

Well, you come on our podcast, typically you're going to get your, ask your top four FM. What's your, what's your top four? Oh, I think I've said it.

I know. So for me, the, the crow, the original point break life as a house. And, uh, the Crow, the original Point Break, Life as a House, and I'll go. I think it's the Guardian. Yeah, the Kevin Costner, Ashton Kutcher, Coast Guard movie. So I've seen the Guardian, but I haven't seen any of those others. Yeah, they're early 90s. Well, two of them are early 90s and one's like early 2000s

what about you joey uh you know i'd probably have to go by the ones i've bought multiple times right and because like with me my favorite movie could fluctuate based on my feelings of the day um so i'm probably like vhs dvd like yeah i've bought them on literally everything favorite movie could fluctuate based on my feelings of the day. You mean like VHS, DVD, digital? Yeah, I've bought them on literally everything. Just making sure I understood. The Crow's on there for sure. I need to watch The Crow.

Yeah, I think so. There's a remake coming out next year. It looks amazing. Supertroopers is on there for sure. I probably quote Super Troopers is on there for sure. Right? Like I probably quote Super Troopers two to four times a day and nobody ever gets it except for like my best friends. I haven't seen it in 20 years.

John Wick is probably on there. Now, I used to really, you know what? I'm going to have to, there's toss-up because I'm actually going through my movies on Apple because these are the ones that I bought on VHS then I bought on DVD then I bought on blu-ray and

then I finally just caved in and put on Apple so there's probably a toss-up between the nightmare before Christmas and Mongol and so Mongol was a Russian movie

about the rise of genghis khan and i probably watched that movie dozens of times like absolutely dozens of times and i mean there's more there's obviously more right like logan logan's up there so many more horror movies in there so no more more just to vent and relax, not necessarily consume because you're passionate about the original movie. I really like horror, and I'd have to create a separate Mount Rushmore for those.

But my favorite movies of all time that I go to over and over, Logan is on there, The Grey is on there, the Liam Neeson movie with the wolves, that's on there as well too. But, you know, my Mount Rushmore is this there. The Liam Neeson movie with the wolves. That's on there as well too. But you know my Mount Rushmore is this big. So it's hard for me to say four.

I would need Mount Rushmore and a few more. Oh fuck. Hot Tub Time Machine 2. That's another movie. I reference that movie all the time. I'll drop jokes and lines from that movie and nobody ever gets it. Did the sequel over the original?

I'm trying to, I've seen them both. I just don't remember. They all kind of, you know, they all sound the same. No hot tub time. A team two is definitely funnier than the first one.

Okay. I remember going to see that in theaters and being the only person in the theater in stitches, me and my one buddy just in stitches and everybody looking at us like it's not that funny and we're like no you're wrong this is the funniest thing that's ever happened i probably got a few more things and we can get into a little unpaid or underrated um is there anything you wanted to cherry pick out of it uh you know look it over i'm gonna ask a couple real quick um begin to the garage gym competition this year, Jake?

Partake in a little gray matter lifting garage gym competition in the garage? Probably not. No. No, I've never done it. You've never done it? Why is that? That leads me. My next one was, if you won't do the garage gym competition, you're definitely not going to do a sanctioned power lifting meet or a strongman show.

I don't, it doesn't seem like not in your wheelhouse. I just don't train like that. I don't train power lifting like at all. Yeah. I mean, well, what do you try?

Okay. I was going to ask that now. What do you train? Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm entering that down as a question. Sorry.

How do you change? Yeah. I mean, I do a fair bit of just general lifting and then also running and cardio and um i just kind of do whatever i want um i think i i love working out in my gym i don't i've never liked i've never liked the pressure of following a program. That's fair. I usually don't have any.

So when I do find myself following a program, I find myself dreading workouts. That's fair. So I'd rather just do what I want to do you know i'm still like i you know i mean i mean i'm still like in decent shape and i'm happy when i work out and um yeah just so we understand are you doing like a squat bench and deadlift variation of some sort are you like what i know you have any of barbells plates and a squat rack so like uh are you doing all like playing with your attachments because i know you're always doing different attachments like like walk me through like two workouts in a week you know yeah yeah i mean i would say like i usually um revolve a single workout around

the big three so i'm either benching i'm either squatting or i'm either dead lifting every like a day and power lifting ish i think you could do the garage gym competition big jake that's i'm sure i could i just you know and i don't know i would want to like put up good numbers and i don't feel like i would put up good numbers um as compared to like where where i think i should be so um i just haven't i just and i don't i don't necessarily like posting about myself either mine so you know i think i think what what joe does is great and it's cool to see everyone do it but when have you ever seen me really post about myself i don't i just just don't really it does open it does open you up to like

not even criticism like people think they're being helpful which they are sometimes but it's just like so when i'm getting like right now i'm in a strong man and i'm like i'm taking all advice i can get but i don't want advice from a sport i've been doing for 10 years typically like like that usually comes across like not i don't respond well if someone wants to give me advice from a sport that i've been doing for 10 years even if i'm not great at it but like strongman like i've had like dodds and scans and fucking dming me every other day telling me to like you know keep my elbows up and you know that wasn't a fucking clean that was a that was a curl and i'm like yeah because i when i was playing with the log i like i definitely didn't like clean it properly and my biceps were hurting so bad for like three days so i do appreciate the

help with that boys uh but yeah i i can get not wanting to open yourself up to just getting your balls busted it's not even that it's i don't want the attention okay yeah yeah i would say it it definitely doesn't happen a lot at least not on instagram i I'm not on Facebook. Whenever I posted my lift on Twitter, those actually never did anything. Except, you know, you get the one that's like, no, do it without straps. And then I go and I'm like, buddy, with straps, I just outlifted you by 150 pounds.

Like, what? Like, why are you giving me advice? So so yeah i'm not i get it but i it could be fun like even if you just because i i think on this g this garage gym competition i don't think i'm gonna do a mock powerlifting meet i think i'm gonna do this i'm gonna do some variations that's the cool part like i might do a fucking like a front squat, an overhead press and a fucking rack pull or something. If I even, I mean,

if I do it, I'm definitely, I'm, that's the cool thing. You can do variations and I don't know. It's just fun. I think the Denny's don't, I think the Denny's are going to come out.

That would be cool for your deadlift. That would be pretty badass. So I think I'll ask my last one and see if Joe kick it back to Joey, then we'll get into unpaid. So this is kind of a two parter. So did you personally take anything home from home gym con and what was the, some of the best deals you heard about people getting from the fire sale Saturday night?

The only thing I took from home gym con was that ATX bar that had the home gym con label on it. Oh, I think I benched with that. Like I, I think that's actually the i'm in a video uh tanner's like doing reps with it it was it was on our combo rack the whole weekend right yeah yeah that's the only thing and then titan gave me a pair of their

new collars um did chris make a belt for you or was that for home gym con oh yeah chris made me a belt so that i do have a belt let Let's rephrase that. Randy probably did 99% of it. Chris just handed it to you. Yeah. So I've got two home gym con belts that I probably won't ever use. I want to just stack them up over the years and make probably

some sort of cool... That'd be cool. Yeah. Actually... Nice. I dig it. Pretty cool. And then the other one is right up there but uh so so yeah i think the coolest thing for me to get is like custom home gym con stuff with the logo for sure so that's what i like um the best deals so i think the best deals came from people who won giveaways and they didn't want to take it home and they sold i heard it's like crazy cheap so yeah i don't know if i'm supposed to say anything well i will

tell you one i will tell you one story so um darko came up to like the little customer service area type booth you know where we were checking people in and he was like hey jay can you can you um go on the loudspeaker and just say hey i'm selling my my rack and my barbell that i bought from brand new from rep for 400 or the loudspeaker and my sister was right there she's like i'll take it so she so she got a really nice rack um and a bar for 400 and then i forget someone also won the atx ghd and um it's a i think it was like 2200 it's really nice um and my sister bought it off of them for her like i don't know a few hundred bucks so i think she scored pretty well and then

i think the cable crossover from atx was sold for pretty cheap yeah Yeah, 50k I got that for 500 I heard. Yeah. Which is a pretty smoking deal. Okay, so what you're saying is drive to French Licken. With a truck. Yeah, with a truck. Don't fly. Hang out at the customer service desk with Jake and his sister. Yep. And you can just buy things at Stupid G.

For all the people that flew in atx sold their entire booth for 50 for 50 50 like someone walked away with like that combo rack for like a grand someone walked with all their plates their plates were even less than 50 i think i think uh deadliest lifts bought all their plates for like 40 cents a pound or something like kilo calibrated plates. And he got all the mayhem plates, I think either free or super cheap just for, you know, so there's some people who made some really good deals. What you got to do. Did I ever tell the story of how I got all my strength co plates?

No, just helping out grant or something to do with the end of the Arnold that Sunday. Yeah. I was like, he was like, Hey, come by at the end and I'll sell arnold that sunday yeah i was like he was like hey come by at the end and i'll sell these cheap and i came by and then he was like you buy those i'll give you those two and i ended up a dollar a pound is pretty much what i paid for all of my

plates from the strength go which if you go now and look at the shipping to canada they're like i think the last time i checked they were like 15 a pound to get to Canada, like after the exchange and everything. So that's why I was just like, what? I was like, no way. Can you double check with that? And he's like, yeah, that's what I meant. And then I was like, give me them all. Like, give me them all.

How is that right home? Yeah, slow. And then actually, I was telling that story today that I forgot when the border agent, do you have anything you need to declare and i was like yeah a couple t-shirts and stuff like that and then as we got through i was like oh fuck i forgot those plates were in there like if they measured my car i'd be if they weighed my car i'd be boned right now it'd been funny because it'd been funny if they were uh kilo plates you said oh just a just just a few kilos in the trunk not the best thing to say i'm guessing you don't cross the border very often you would you would not say that i don't think i've been in canada in a decade you would definitely not

say that sentence the canadian border is harsher than the american border to be honest with you all right you want to move on to uh unpaid and underrated yeah you want to move on to unpaid and underrated yeah you want to explain the game to him yeah so essentially we're going to give you a list of topics they have been handpicked for you and we have to choose if they are unpaid which is of course not a great thing

or if they are overrated underrated fuck see why do you have me explain this game? You have such a script. And you hand it to me and I get it wrong. I feel like I've talked 90% of the episodes. Unpaid or underrated.

All right. And of course, you can't ride the line. You got to pick a side. And if you have like, some of these are set up for like, I want to hear a story with it. So don't just tell me the thing. Like, I want to want to hear brothers and then tell me the story of why we asked. Not all of them will have that, but some of them will kick off the first one. Unpaid or underrated. Having your friends and sister run away from the cops at college.

Unpaid. Yeah. um unpaid yeah i can imagine yeah yeah it was uh i i heard the story on her end i want to hear the story on your end i guess of the yeah sister your sister and your buddy and some of your friends were all out pre-gaming and Yeah, walking to a party and cops came. I think we were 20, 19 or 20. Yeah, cops came and people ran. I actually wasn't there. I was a couple blocks behind or something. So, yeah, people ran. One person got caught. They went went to jail pretty much ruined the night

so definitely unpaid that's not it's kind of how i guess the only difference was she made it sound like you guys were all right together and you just like froze and didn't run or move and they all took off like like she said like you know she went in like great detail like people jumping over fences and shit and just sprinting right so i wasn't i wasn't there i think i was a couple blocks behind i think the people that froze and didn't move i think they just like walked away because the cops went after the people that ran and i'm assuming that the guy just got a we just get a just get an underage consumption or do you get like a fleeing charge oh no he got yeah he got a resisting rest oh that sucks yeah that's not cool yeah so that definitely sounds that sounds unpaid as hell i guess very unpaid yeah when the fun shows up don't

cheese it oh my second one let's go with selling t-shirts and fulfilling the orders yourself unpaid or underrated unpaid man it is a pain to do that unless you're like selling at mass and you have like a rhythm going then it is you know every you get a order every two days and it's like, ah, do I do this now or do I wait for the next order to come in? And before you know it, it's, it's a week and that order is still sitting there. Yeah. But you also know that if you do that one right away, one's going to come in immediately after you've walked away. Yeah. There you go.

No, I know that. I know that. after you've walked away yeah there you go no i know that i know that and they're also just it's you know that that i have like a ton of respect for massonomics guys for making this making it a success i think they have the right like formula with a designer and also just like this you know a marketing kind of machine um behind, behind it to where, um, and they're, they've been consistent with it. Um,

but if you're just making shirts every once in a while and not going full throttle, then, you know, it's most likely just a waste of time. Yeah. And because, and also they're not,

unless you're marketing it up like crazy, it's, it's tough to profit because, you know, shipping and if you're getting good quality shirts, like if you're not it up like crazy, it's tough to profit because shipping and if you're getting good quality shirts, if you're not ordering enough. If you order 20 to 40 shirts from a quality shirt manufacturer, you're probably paying $18 for them, which means you have to sell them for $28 to five dollars of profit after shipping and you know if you sell 20 shirts that's a hundred dollars so like back to your time and you lost hundreds of dollars right and then you got to buy the shipping materials and most likely you can't just buy that

specific amount of shipping materials so you're so you're buying extra so you really unless you're unless you're all in it's it's it's an unpaid yeah and this year you uh sourced uh the 2024 home gym con shirt and i'm assuming the strongman throwdown shirt out to barbell voodoo voodoo barbell what is it what's this all right you plug them and now if someone wants to buy this shirt is it available on their website now because I think I bought one of the first ones because he had to dig out like this Tupperware with a couple hundred shirts in it so I didn't know if he's going to toss

that on the website or if he like fire sold those on the end of the end of the night no I have them so I've like so we got to reach out to Jake so I bought 200 shirts sold probably about sold probably 100 and then I get the rest so i don't know what i'm

gonna do with them a lot of giveaways but like bulk give you i don't know it's like yeah because you don't want to individually get stuck shipping 100 shirts over the next year so yeah i don't have fun with it i could i would have i would assume that uh you just honestly just give him to him and give him the link and have him just or him back to Barbell Voodoo and then just share the link out and have him just sell it and keep all the profits at that point. Just take it off your plate and get your shirt out a little more. So I, I tried to just have them do it and just keep all the profits and just say, you guys just make the shirts and handle it. But the profits. Yeah. And just say, you guys just make the shirts and handle it. But they weren't interested.

I think they've had some bad experiences in the past as far as the t-shirts just don't sell. Yeah, that makes sense. So I bought them up front and guessed. I thought they'd be more popular than they were but i think you know i think they were too expensive yeah they're 28 and i didn't i don't love the i don't want to shit on them but like last year's printing i like this is more of like the uh i don't i don't know hey what like it's a different printing technology than the one last year. Last year, it felt a little more like part of the shirt.

This one's just kind of like a printed on vinyl logo. Still a good quality shirt. I mean, it's comfortable. Very comfortable shirt. Fits well. They definitely used the right blank. You know, our sister podcast has still struggled with that seven years. Going on eight, nine years later, they still can't get the right blank. But it's definitely a good blank.

I can feel Tanner fuming from that sentence. Into the same blank. All right. So my third one of unpaid or underrated, let's go with owning 20 plus barbells and correct me if it's even if it's closer to 30 or more. plus barbells and correct me if it's even if it's closer to 30 or more. I, yeah, I don't own as many as I want, but owning 20 plus barbells is also unpaid.

Um, that sounds like a fucking nightmare to be honest with you. It is a nightmare. Uh, especially if they're not all, if they're all like different specialty bars. Um, you know,

I have like maybe 15 in my garage right now and I'm, I'm looking to shed a few. Um, but yeah, having too many bars is, is just, it's just a pain, especially with, you know, especially if there are many of them are similar. I think, um, many of them are similar i think um i would say to anybody who has too many just get rid of them use what you have or and you'll you'll realize it it doesn't make that big of a difference um but yeah i mean it also just takes up a lot of like precious wall space if you're gonna hang them like that and yeah It's just a lot of waste. You gave me a very good meme idea, which isn't great in the middle of a podcast.

Memes are good. Not that it's not your fault. Just now my brain is hyper-focused. We'll just make a memo and get to your unpaid or underrated because that wraps up my 50 50 of those and i'm glad i was expecting you to go uh you're such a neutrally kind of guy i wasn't expecting you to take such a hard stance and unpaid unpaid unpaid so i'm glad you made it easy on us i was afraid it was going to be all underrated all right uh i'm going to go with the first one and i think it's the one that um

we can relate to the most managing multiple instagrams let's change it up i'll go underrated um i would say you know it is my job and managing multiple business accounts can be exciting because um you know, it keeps the action flowing. You have, you know, DMs coming from both sides. You have planning to do on both sides. So I'll go underrated just because it's where the action is. because it's where the action is. Indeed. I have mine. I often check in on unpaid and underrated, and then I have a second secret one,

third secret one that... Oh, it hasn't been updated in months, so I wouldn't be that worried about it, but... Are you one of those meme accounts that follow you? No. I know. The last thing I would do is follow you on a secret account.

Probably out there doing a bunch of political shit on Instagram since you got rid of Twitter. You fucking imagine. Yeah. I got to go out there and make people mad. Oh, yeah. That actually takes me back to Tanner's impression of Tom. And I was like, he sounds like Tony Clifton, like Jim Carrey playing Andy Kaufman, playing Tony Clifton. Oh, yeah.

Nobody caught that, I don't think, in the discord. That is what Tanner's impression of Huck Finn is. It's just Tony Clifton. All right. is what Tanner's impression of Huck Finn is. It's just Tony Clifton. Rawr! Rawr! Alright. Okay, unpaid or underrated Louisville? Underrated?

Did I say it right? That was some debate. There were some people saying, I think it was on, I don't remember, somewhere on Instagram. It must have been on one of the Home Gym things. Anytime someone said Louisville, there was some people saying i think it was on uh i don't remember where somewhere on instagram it must have been one of the home gym things anytime someone said louisville there was like some debate on how much uh somebody mentioned it somebody mentioned it in our discord okay you're supposed to say love though so i feel like karen would say louisville louisville but as a canadian i would

say louis louis i'll even actually go forward and say Louisville. Fuck all of you. I'm going to trigger everybody. Louisville. Oh, God. I just puked my mouth a little. That's how I mean, that's phonetically what the word is. But good.

I don't know. Louisville is not like that's that's like fucking that's that's that's worse than saying hello. No, it's like New Orleans. It's New Orleans, but it's pronounced Nolans. Right? You can even go further and say Nola

if you want to be a nightmare. So you can just say things from where they are. But anyway, Unpaid and Underrated, Louisville. Yeah, I think it's underrated specifically for a convention spot um it is you know everyone who isn't in a within an hour driving distance is going to complain but it is centrally located it it's uh i believe it's like 10 minutes from an airport and it is the downtown is is bigger than than most but it's not as big as like a um a the one of some of the biggest cities in

in um the u.s it's um it's got a nice vibe to it. You know, there's a cool bar scene right next to the convention. There's plenty of, like, other... It just has its own, like, kind of vibe, I should say. And it's a good place for people to meet in the summer. So, yeah, I'm going to go underrated. Nice. So just break the news for anyone that hasn't seen it on Instagram.

Where will Home Gym Con 2025 take place next year? In Louisville. There we go. Last week in June. Perfect. And it is the convention. It's just the one convention center, right? Because I was driving back. It's the one you see 30 seconds before you pull into the

airport it's like the huge massive building on the right or is it one one portion of that because it looked like it was like multiple complexes of the convention center it was kind of hard to like driving by at 50 it was kind of hard to take it all in so it's right it's not right next to the airport it is it's downtown it's the kentucky international convention center okay it's it's right. It's not right next to the airport. It is. It's downtown. It's the Kentucky International Convention Center. OK, it's it's right on Fourth Street, which is the bar scene I was referring to. It's kind of like the you know, you hear Broadway for like Nashville as like the bar strip. So this Fourth Street is pretty well known as well. If you live within the Midwest, it's like a place to go. is pretty well known as well if you live within the midwest it's like a place to go um and it's it's a freshly renovated building and it's it's um it's big but it's not like um it's not like

some of the biggest in in the country so how much bigger how much more square footage or like percentage wise are going to be bigger than the the floor that we had in French Lick? I think about four to five times larger. Oh, Jesus. Jesus. Well, that is a big one. Oh, that's a lot. That's like, because French Lick is like a football field, like literally.

So there's a lot of space. Sweet. Well, we'll see that. Hopefully that, okay. So my question would be, is the goal to move home gym con constantly?

Like have it be revolving or do you, do you want to eventually find your forever home? Um, do you do you want to eventually find your forever home um I think we want to... I don't know. I don't imagine it's going to be in Louisville every year. Because booking, these big places book two years out, don't they? Isn't that why you had to go with the change of the date a little bit?

Yeah, so I would say if I wanted to find another spot i would need another spot for 2026 i'd probably i probably really need to start looking shoot i'm looking at the date i need. Like, within the next four or five months. But that's, it's just so hard because, because, like. You got to see how Louisville pans out. You got to see how Louisville goes. Yeah.

If we don't, like, you know, if you're going to 4X the venue, but we don't 4X the attendance, it's like, you know. I think we will even i think we will yeah yeah being an airport should help for sure so and you know the coop talking about it a little bit couldn't it couldn't hurt at least people are more aware of it now if anything you know so yeah it doesn't hurt all right so what we're saying is Home Gym Con Canada is coming up. That is the annoying thing. Everyone, all the all the people that like want, you know, I don't know, like when we post something about it on social media and it actually doesn't get deleted immediately. Everyone's just like, oh, I would I would I would so come to that if it was a minute from my house. If that was if that was five minutes from my house, I would love to go to that.

Yeah. Why don't why don't you have that in texas why don't you have that in california it is it is there just a version of this in california and i'm like motherfucker this is like a year old like no like and also no you won't shut up like honestly part of the reason i'm not good on social media is whenever i'd go to that, if it was around the corner from my house, I'd go, no, you wouldn't. No, you wouldn't. You're lying. You're lying. I mean, yeah, I mean. You ask people where they should be and.

They're like they literally every time you ask, it's it's, where i live it's like abilene texas abilene and it's like truly every every area does have a like convention center that could potentially work so that's what people think which like it's totally understandable but so you know some insight is i've ran events here in my city i did charity work for years i did volunteer work and even some paid work and no they're not they're not going to show up people on social media are not showing up you'll have 700 guaranteed yeses on facebook and 100 people show up yeah so this whole thing that was like if it was around the corner from my house i would go now you fucking wouldn't like i don't believe you i'm not moving my event for you and you're not coming like i just i'm aware of that that's that's

all i was trying to say that yeah you can move it you can move it every year to a different state and the people that go if you were in my state i'd show up they're not showing up no you're right and i mean i have i had some local friends that lived in indianapolis like hey just come on by have here's a free ticket they didn't come so like it's you know it it is what it is. Like, you can't make those decisions based off of one-offs. Yeah, and at risk of getting political, bots don't buy tickets. So you get your social media Instagrammers, your Twitter people, your Facebook commenters, all that. Those, like, they're not showing up.

They're not. To your political event, to your volunteer event, to your, like, they're not showing up. They're not. To your political event, to your volunteer event, to your charity event, they're not showing up. Okay, last one. You ready? Unpaid or underrated? IPAs. Unpaid. unpaid you know they

they all just kind of taste the same they do they taste like what do I always say grapefruit farts the asshole of a grapefruit yep I mean I like IPAs but I would have to say

yeah unpaid but they don't do they fall under the craft beer umbrella like a subsect no they're the only craft beer they're the only craft beer most people drink ok so they are a craft beer there's just a niche in craft beer

it's cause they're often like in Canada 7-10% right so you drink one so i'll usually start like if i'm having a day where i'm like i'm getting a buzz let's go i'll have an ipa at the beginning and it'll be a seven to ten percent ipa right and then i'll move back down to my four or five percent keith's right and that's where yeah ipas they're just some of them are okay but they all just they all in some form or another taste like a grapefruit fart like like pine salt i wouldn't go that far i like the taste but again they just they're all the same they all kind of taste i enjoy an ipa keith's is not a true ipa keith's actually

transitioned into a lager about 100 years ago but definitely would say yeah they're not as they're not as great as people think they are so i would would agree with you on that one, unpaid. Well, it looks like you passed unpaid or underrated. Awesome. Well done. Thank you. Thank you. Do you have anything to hit us with?

You got any questions for us? If you need some time, we can hit some of our affiliates real quick if you got to prepare your thoughts. So I'll do that real quick. So everybody go ahead and help unpaid and Underrated Podcasts grow and fill our pockets. We can buy that speedboat soon. So Obsidian Ammonia, Barbell Rescue, Plate Snacks, and I guess Home Gym Con 2025, I believe it's already live. You can buy tickets.

I think I've already got a couple. At least maybe, I don't know if my friends actually bought the tickets or took screenshots using code Unpaid and didn't actually pull the trigger, but code Unpaid will save you something on all those affiliates of ours. Yeah, Keith, I think I owe you some money for people using that code. That's alright. We'll just let it roll over.

Just send them a free shirt. I think a few people have already bought it this year too with your code. Yeah, I believe. I'm curious. what do you think about the move to louisville um i know you and yeah i'm a creature of habit um like getting to french lick sucked like the the the travel sucked but like does louisville if i have to now you still get a rental car and then drive 10 minutes or just uber like I don't

know the all-inclusive aspect is amazing in French Lake being able to walk from the hotel room down to the convention grounds and go back up to my room like three times a day and unload my backpack if I wanted to was awesome I don't think that that's going to be the setup in Louisville but I can adapt if I have to the time the timing might be what kills it for me next year um if lift hard live easy 2025 thing and it happens it'll be July 20th ish yeah yeah and I don't know that I can spend like half of my vacation in like a two week like a three week period because like I only get so much vacation and if I if I don't spread it out and I don't have the ability to like mentally recharge to deal with the morons that I deal with like i don't think that's my biggest reservation of why i didn't already pull the

trigger on a ticket is like i gotta see what massonomics is doing because i can i justify spending four thousand dollars in a month basically and like eat up half of my vacation in like a three-week period and then have to just work the rest of the year that i don't know yet yeah that makes sense I have some that is the only reason I haven't pulled the trigger and haven't you know last year we bought our tickets like immediately uh this year I gotta just kind of see what other stuff is going on but I don't know change is not always bad as the people tell me you know I'm still waiting for that but uh I have been good about the last couple years I've had more change in my life than ever in the last few years. So I've embraced change.

Louisville, I will, you know, we'll see. Yeah. I mean, like the French Lick setup, I think, you know, that French Lick setup, if you could move it anywhere, it'd be perfect. Yeah. You know, maybe a bigger exhibition hall. that french lick setup if you could move it anywhere it'd be perfect yeah you know maybe a bigger exhibition hall but other than that it was pretty ideal because everybody was connected and being able to go to the same one room yeah same bar yeah that just made it convenient like that was one of my funnest things i was like like drinking beer with Tanner and Tommy. Uh, Joey was there. Mike,

uh, Kaizen, uh, there was like, like, um, Mark, like there was like,

there was like six, seven, like there was a whole row, like the guys from rep and their team, like those, those, uh, those swinging,

those, those chairs that like we're doing three sixties right in front of the, but the, the screen, uh, the, in front of the big TV at one of the bars, there was just like,

we just took it over on Friday night, I think. It was just awesome to look down. I don't know that we can recreate that if we're fighting just regular bar people in a random place if it's not super organized. So I'd be curious on what you can put together as far as organizing stuff, I guess, post-show, just so people know to like, all we're gonna like you know conglomerate here i think what i'm what i'm thinking is instead of dinners is um like rent out room for happy hour that'd be cool i think yeah i think that's that's what we're gonna aim to do i don't know if that's possible but that's the goal to do that instead of like the big, the big kind of fancy dinners. Yeah.

I like the dinners, but yeah, it was very hard to like, I feel like the first night there were, well, we ended up kind of running short on food both nights, but I think it's because they let people go get seconds before people got there. So I was like, that's kind of like the catering people should have been more aware, I guess, that there's like people coming still. So I think the issue was everybody just loaded up on meat that's true the shocking those short those short ribs uh were the best meat i had well i was just gonna say the best meat i had all weekend but i'm gonna stop myself before you guys

pick on me for saying that one but uh that was good food all weekend but i don't know uh louisville i mean you had to grow like it sounded like you had people that wanted triple the space that they had, it seems like. So if you can't give the vendors the space they want, something had to give. I mean, if I could have kept in French Slick, I would. If not, someone else is going to do Home Gym Con at a bigger city and beat me to it. So you've got to adapt or die. I see that, yeah. Yeah. What was your feedback did you get good uh i mean did you get positive feedback from all the vendors uh for this year

as far as the turnout man i haven't received any negative feedback at all love it i asked a lot of people like just you know people that was on first name basis with like you're happy with it like because it was hard to gauge like uh because there was so much more shit there that it was hard to gauge by like the rows of like how full it was. And there was people in and at booths. And there were so many booths that it was like hard to be like, I don't know if it's like 200 people here or 300 people. Like I couldn't like grasp the amount of people. Like I know you told me how many tickets were sold, but right. It was just but yeah, every vendor i talked to seemed happy yeah and then i think the like the everyone there was

always a large group near the competition so yeah i think the flow wasn't quite as great as i would wanted but yeah i think the competition kind of killed bells of steel and swing sesh like predict like their ability to like be seen by everybody yeah i know maybe they should have contributed some banners or some advertising to the competition just saying that would you know that that's at the arnold that's what grant tried to do he tried to put his plates in the animal cage. And Rogue interrupted, right? But that would have been prime for Grant. The strength co-booth promotes the animal cage as well, too.

So, you know, maybe Bell of Steel could contribute as a man. I'm just saying. I think Bell of Steel, Kayvon spent a lot of money that weekend. I gave him props for bringing out Gluck and Winnie. Listen to you defending Bells of Steel. lot of money that weekend i gave i gave him props for bringing out gluck and uh winnie and listen to you defending bells of steel well i think you know i think they had a pretty good weekend i know no he was happy i think he was happy just to get his team there he was basically saying that like his team has like never all been in the same place he's never actually like the guy his um his engineer

actually hadn't actually seen a lot of the products he's actually engineered and like like drew up the blueprints for us that was kind of neat to like that is so cool isn't he from like poland or something like that must be i yeah yeah i forget where but yeah so that was cool he brought like you know as many people as he could in but yeah um uh did you have a chance to come up with anything for us well i asked you about a little yeah oh yeah that was i guess that was uh here i was thinking that was just a segue on yours but yeah so he asked me a question and nothing for joey and it sounds like we're good i'm just kidding that was the third week in a row where people i know i got nothing for you

everyone's like you know i mean i do all the scheduling, so I just tell people not to ask you anything, just as a recurring thing. Who's been some of your guys' favorite podcast episodes for Massonomics? Oh. I like the call-in episodes, because then it's like I get to hear my homies

on the phone. And then when I meet some of those people in person, it's just like, oh, I've already, similar to the vein of our podcast, I've heard them talk for one or two minutes on their podcast, and I was like, oh, okay, cool. But as far as interviews, I'd have to deep dive.

I love Dr. Mike. Love Grant, whenever Grant's on. Grant is so us. Like on Grant is so us like Grant is so crew he's so he is scheduled he's so discord crew that having him on it's almost

like you're trying to keep up with the amount of internal jokes that Grant makes when he's on massonomics it's almost exhausting um but yeah dr mike is probably my favorite person to listen to paul dwyer is one of the few people that fucking who never heard of him obviously and then he's on here and i was like this dude's the best i watch his shit every day yeah every day he posts

and he was like and i'm like yes like i'm so into the world and so yeah i'm hoping he does well at world's at world's strongest man today um you know i'm obviously i'm pushing to get mitchell hooper on and in between me messaging Mitch and Masonomics messaging Mitch, it's probably going to happen. But it's taking a while. So yeah, that would be my answer. Oh,

quick follow up on that. Like I hopefully grant, but I can see the value in home gym con next year and it'll be a little spread out from, I'm assuming in one of his reasons of not wanting to go was it was just right on top of the Arnold and all that that but like you know hopefully being a couple months later you know less reasons to you know when we when we talk to him actually i'll put him on the spot and kind of bust his chops about it here i think i have him in august i think he'll

be on the podcast i believe hopefully he signs up by then everything's so oh my god like we have barefoot coming up. And it's actually... So Barefoot was supposed to be at Home Gym Con and they didn't make it, so I'm curious if Jake knows anything or we'll get it from them first hand in a few weeks or months, whenever it is. They just said they had

things come up and they couldn't make it. Yeah, I saw that they were on flights somewhere, so I assumed that it was something important. But yeah, that's coming up too. We have such... I told you 2024 was going to be fucking huge for us, and I wasn't lying.

We got Siri, we got Grant, we got Barefoot. Having Barefoot's on is going to be really fun, because I'm on their Discord as well. I'm going to leave that one for you for all the show notes. I'm 100% that's in your hands. I have. I have. I'm on their Discord as well. I don't know them.

I'm asking questions and stuff like that in there. And then actually I emailed customer service at Barefoot because I thought one of my shipments was supposed to ship. And I told customer service and I was like, I've been asking Blake, but honestly, I feel weird bothering him. Can you tell me the status of my order? And literally customer service goes, you have access to Blake? And I was like, yeah, like doesn't everybody? But no, it's because of the massomics connection that like he even listens to me. So that was pretty cool.

I dig it. All right. You guys want to bring this in for a landing, gentlemen? I think we can do that. All right. Well, we hit on all the affiliates. Yep. Instagram, Unpaid and Underrated Podcast.

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Where can they find you at again, Jake? At GarageDomExperiment. Love it. Big Joey? At Joey underscore Molesko. M-L-E-C-Z-K-O. Don't look me up on anything else.

Hey, you know who else didn't show up at Home Gym Con that probably should have? It was Big Matt. Big Matt, MostlySquatVideos, backed out of not only the podcast tonight, but out of Home Gym Con that probably should have. Big Matt Mostly Squat Videos backed out of not only the podcast tonight, but out of Home Gym Con. How dare he.

We actually owe an explanation. Nobody's listening at this point, but we're going to say it anyway. We were supposed to announce the winner of our competition tonight. The rules were confusing to who anyway we will make a social media announcement the day that this podcast lands i think i think that's

what our end goal was for the battle for the breaker uh beyond that, just follow Massonomics, join, and what else? Is that it? Is that it? Hey, actually, Jake, is there anything else? Nope. Okay. Nice. So KeithHoneyGuts73, go follow my Orange Gym, the No Wine Cellar.

And until then, we'll see you next Tuesday.