Unpaid And Underrated - 055 : Aberdeen Adjacent

Episode Date: May 28, 2024

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Tyler Stone. They dive right into great topics like Zynns, Rocks, Vasectomies, Blanks, Rap Music, Globo Gyms Vs. Home Gyms, and Ketchup. Links Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @tylereffinstone (https://www.instagram.com/tylereffinstone/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Tyler.

Shit, I jumped the gun. We got to do that again. No, we're not doing it again. We're going to do it live. All right, everybody. Welcome to episode 612 of the Unpaid and Underrated Podcast, a podcast by crew for crew, by crew for crew and mocked relentlessly in the discord by the crew i am one of the hosts big joey i am joined by big keith howdy howdy and we also have big tyler are we calling you tyler stone effing stone what are we calling it tyler stone it is all right i going to dive right in because I like to party. We're going to start with what are you drinking?

I am finishing off that mango bubbly. That stuff was aya. Nice. I've got a, I'm out of sorts tonight. I'm drinking a little McAltra for the first time in a couple months. I don't have it. It's been a minute since I've had a beer on the podcast. So we'll see how many of these I put down tonight.

Oh, I got some beer waiting. Don't you worry. I'm've had a beer on the podcast. So we'll see how many of these I put down tonight. Oh, I got some beer waiting. Don't you worry. I'm up in the Rocky Mountains this week. So I went straight to Coors Original. There you go. Yeah. Couldn't resist it. We were talking about that last week, weren't we?

Yeah. It was that one I explained to you. Yeah. Yeah. It's original up here in Canada. It's called Coors Original. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, and I don't know. It's like every other beer is just heavy, heavy heavy so see there goes original or banquet that's kind of what they call it here it is it does say banquet but i think it's original in the on the other cans i prefer the grenades the short glass grenades that's like a it's a sweet little yeah yeah the coors original and the stumpy glass bottles are kind of a fun little treat. Every once in a while, it's not efficient to drink out of. Cause it's. Well, especially with your, your hands got to fucking dwarf that bottle too. This is a 12 ounce can.

That's a mini don't, don't lie. That is a mini. I'm not even joking. So I actually had to look this up because I swore there was something wrong. I said, this is a 10 or something crazy. So I had to look and it does say 12 ounces, but it's, yeah, it's not, it's not very flattering. It's the Andre, Andre the giant hand over there. Yeah. I've got my barefoot shirt on because it's hot as shit up here down here in canada

so yeah i'm definitely wearing just a barefoot sleeveless shirt i was gonna wear my i wanted to wear my new grip shirt that i got um for strongman but it never showed up today so it's gonna be there tomorrow so i wore my uh my ouch everything hurts shirt which i'm glad i don't think i would have wanted to do a two hour podcast and a and a grip shirt but i was gonna basically wear it just for like the bit and then take it off but i'm kind of glad it wasn't here because i don't know how well it'll fit if you didn't see my face obviously listeners couldn't see it i was just like you're gonna fucking wear your grip shirt for a podcast it would have been more of a because then i would have segued into like you know it would have been yeah it would just i'm i'm getting into power uh into strongman so i would have done you're like that is one step away from like wearing your lifting belt while you podcast

if i can we i have one of our podcast hosts has been known to do some uh ammonia during the podcast that's a thing oh yeah sometimes yeah yeah what shirt you got on there i see some bjg i well problem was actually was i had all these i had all the best plans to wear my probably all-time favorite massonomics design the sleeper is the huge life one but i i wore that all through the airport traveling yesterday so i was like i dug it out of my bag i was like i'll wear it because i want one i want to rep the brand and then i was like this thing smells way too bad for me to put it on so i'm rocking misfits grappling club out of sioux falls so good folks to let me train if they beat me up when i drop in through town so yeah

that is one of my the huge life is one of my favorite shirts for sure i think i have two i don't know if the guy i'm sure the guys probably can't get away with too many parody stuff anymore once you get above a certain level but that one is just uh it's a it's a it's a very underrated fucking well they can just like re-release some of the ones that everybody's ripping off and parroting the company ripping them off that's true yeah they do the weekend warrior shirt and be like no no we're parodying the tango charlie guys the we don't make the day massonomics gets a cease and desist from tango charlie will be wild oh god that would be that would be one for the record books it would mostly just be to stop us harassing them that's what i would probably be like you need to call off the people that are following your page they're

fucking blowing us up i don't think anyone's harassing them anymore because we're all blocked i think like 99 of us are blocked just from like any comments we've made uh in at their expense in the last six months yeah uh but speaking of like banned contraband and stuff so i hope hope everyone or at least uh did you get a crispy boy banner or a lift banner or did were you needing those joey no i'm i'm banner i'm bannered out i actually have some banners i don't even have room for and then you know i've got the delf dungeon one hopefully being designed and that one's gonna have to be replaced like it's gonna have to replace one of the ones i have now yeah you thought about going on the ceiling though a lot

of like like big mapping there has been a big man some other crew have been putting shit up on the ceiling but that's and your lower ceiling might not be as optimal well it wouldn't make a difference because i'm not really doing that much overhead press so that might not be a bad idea but i do you know once the dill thunder one comes in morgan actually has designed a small logo so i might do the stickers up like like uh chad asked me last week um and then we'll see what the banner looks like if jenny ever gets that done no i did i did catch that you just noticed that she said it was a small logo for your delfs and you know that that sounds about right i guess it's thicker than you think though yeah

it's not about the size keith it's where i place the sticker there you go there you go that's that's good stuff uh so what do you want to tell me five minutes in dick jokes that's right and i love how you like went out of your way to not respond to it i'm just you bastard uh that was a straight i can confirm can either confirm nor deny statement right it was it was actually a let i'm gonna let that sit there and marinate for a second well i'm not gonna ever be like oh no I should stop telling dick jokes on my podcast. It's just going to be like, oh, I guess I got to tell better dick jokes. That's all.

What do you want to tell me about Zins, Joey? Oh, fuck, man. Have you guys ever tried those? No, I gave up nicotine like when I was 20. I have. My wife's going to listen to this. She'll be pissed. But I'm pretty like it's a Zins I keep in a pretty's gonna listen to this. She'll be pissed, but I'm pretty like,

it's a Zins I keep in a pretty, somehow it stays in a nice little pocket for me. It's not too enticing, but I always wanted to try them because you'd, I just, you'd hear all like the, what's the word? Biohacking dorks. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, they're so great for your mental health. And we had some guys in Europe that were making supplements. It was like a little bit of caffeine, a little something else, and then nicotine. And it was supposed to be like a great nootropic. So I was interested in trying it, especially since it's not a tobacco product. It seems like the safest way to get it.

And it just seemed to not totally rock my world. I don't love it. Don't hate it. It's definitely not something that's going to drag me into the shit. But in probably like six months i bought two cans that's not bad of this is and i still probably have three quarters of the second one it's like once every couple weeks i'll remember i have it and throw it in but it'll still i would probably get in trouble if the old lady found it but i'm not into it enough to like fucking actually like deny it and get i will try and

get away with it so yeah i'm not hiding it it's not an addiction it's just a thing i do every once in a while um so i went to my cigar shop and i asked the the people there i was like what are zins like dude they're chewing tobacco i said okay do i need a spit cup because that's always the thing that turned me off a chew is that disgusting that people do their end so she's like no you just put it in your lip and let it absorb and i don't know anything at this rate a couple of the guys at work are doing them i'm hearing about them from you know the discord and i was like okay i smoke cigars i'll try one of those because i just heard they're so cool so i said just give me what flavor she

names them and i said give me cinnamon so i'm in a fucking garden center with my wife and kids and i put one in my lip as i get out of the car by the time i'm in the garden center i'm high and i mean high and like i'm shaking and i'm like kind of looking around and i'm like morgan i'm messed up so i text my group chat from my work group and i was like, Morgan, I'm messed up. So I texted my group chat from my work group and I was like, guys, these Zins are insane. Like, I'm straight up tripping in the garden center right now. And the one guy

goes, well, how many milligrams are they? And I went, we're fucking counting milligrams? Am I supposed to know that? And I go, I get the can. Math class? Yeah, right? i get the can no tanner even said that on the podcast he was like uh okay you're cutting out so i'm gonna keep telling my story so i get the can and i go they're six and my one buddy who does them all the time goes

oh no he's like i only do three so this lady this guy i was like here try the strongest so yeah i definitely had regrets that day and i've had one since but so there are threes i didn't so when i went in and asked i would ask like the grocery store and the same deal i was like i don't know what's the least strong because i don't want to get all like i just don't want to get all weird like you know like i did go to my office yeah but she just told me six was what they have so i thought that six was less than something the heavy hitter um but i get what i do is once i get that little bit of like the if the the brain tingling or the if it gets a little too what's the word a little too groovy for me i fucking i get it out right away me too yeah that's what i do today have you taken them

and like gone and tried to train no i have twice just for like light like body like to go just get a pump session like some 40 minute thing where it's like i don't know good to have a little caffeine and a little of that in you to be focused i guess i've tried it twice i would rate it like like most non-steroid supplements totally inconclusive but i'm probably trying yeah i haven't tried that but again it was one of those things where even my wife was like i think you should put those away and like that should be like a once every couple of weeks i did i popped one in today because i was driving exhausted and i was like maybe this will help not you know i don't drive over the side of the road and it did it did okay but yeah that's my story is i don't know what i'm

doing just took a six and just tripped through the entire garden center like a maniac so did she like ride it out you were not compelled to like get this thing out of your mouth uh so i think the can says for about an hour you can enjoy them so you held on no i've never had one for more than 15 minutes i could not i don't like feeling like that yeah i'm like 15 15 20 minutes yeah definitely and you're probably you know way more than me because i'm victim weight i'm like 160 pounds yeah i'm like 15 20 minutes yeah definitely and you're probably you know way more than me because i'm victim weight i'm like 160 pounds yeah i'm like 300 pounds yeah so it definitely got me a lot faster yeah i definitely and like i'm talking i was watching my heart rate on my watch while i was driving and it went from like 90 resting to like 112 when the zin kicked in and then i was like yeah that's just

gonna go now definitely selling me i'm never trying those uh no i don't someone as someone that did chew in tobacco for like four or five years and it was the hardest thing to ever give up in his entire life i cannot put anything in my lip like that it would just instantly be like oh i need a can of fucking skull now well i think if you chew i think if you chew that's like the slipperiest of slopes yeah that's going right back to you you know i smoked cigarettes forever and then like tried chewing to transition away from cigarettes and it was not it just i it never connected with me which is probably why this din thing i don't think is it's not too slippery of a slope for me whereas i hated smoking i've smoked like a you know carton of cigarettes in my life but like i never i don't think i ever got like a high off a cigarette like i did i got a can of you know like an actual dip i apparently didn't

know how to actually inhale right i guess apparently one cigarette is one milligram so when we're doing these six cigarettes six at once that's what my one buddy was telling me over an hour potentially too that's still crazy yeah jesus yeah definitely definitely uh to all the people that do those regularly power to you but it's not going into my rotation i'll stick to my cigars is there a new product that's like invaded the the man space in the let's say i'm gonna go a year like it's probably been a year when did this stuff really start popping off i yeah i was something last month or two i started hearing about it it's a year i mean i've heard about it i'll give it a year that it's been like near me i

wasn't compelled to take action on it but all of us were like we were kind of just generally marketed this is marketed to us right came out of nowhere people you trust from many angles were talking about it and then you have friends that got into it and now all of a sudden you have these raising raving reviews to where guys like us that don't use chewing tobacco we're like yeah i like this it would be crazy if all of us were like you guys want to start smoking cigarettes now you know what i mean like how do we all get tricked at this age be like i want to start doing this it's gonna be fun well it definitely was interesting to see how easily compelled you can be so who is here's here's here's a thought of it who's who sells it like who's the biggest distributor of is in a name brand or is it a like a is it like a kleenex i think they're from

switzerland like i'm fairly certain that's where they're made i'd be curious because if it's like big tobacco trying to just like get more people hooked and then like you know just add it to their umbrella of shit i got it uh there's a shell company here that is the story that you're explaining this is to make us all feel like this is safe zin is manufactured by a company called swedish match a stockholm-based company The parent company of Swedish Match, Philip Morris International. Shocker. Shocker.

Followed it. Gotcha. Damn it. Merchants of death. Got us again. That almost might be a conspiracy. I believe it. So this is actually, this happened in 2022.

Philip Morris acquired the company for 16 billion dollars jesus how do they have that much money apparently people really fucking love zen was when the military guys started talking about it that's when i kind of all right i'll try it do you want to read last week's episode yeah let's do it it was the uh was the boys back and back in the you know back actually in video uh they were you know it was the two holding gym con episodes that uh you know had no video and in subpar audio so it was really cool yeah i mean i was there i was talking but yeah the recording situation was not ideal uh what was it i'm trying to think what they all they what all they talked about uh i just always love hearing about the home gym you know they did follow about and talk about

some of the stuff they got from their for the gym equipment i think uh tommy got some some darko uh the darko hangers and tanner got the the the jack from cleva so i just always like hearing them talk about buying the gym equipment so oof but you know i wasn't on the episode so i gotta knock some points down for that but i think i'll still go ahead and give it a five out of five massonomics jam ipod touches that is uh i'm always down to shit talk rogue oh yeah that's what i wanted to yeah definitely always down to shit talk rogue a bit uh having not used any of their equipment and not really desiring to uh there was i don't know what it was when i think and i posted it in the discord when tanner was describing his drink and he said that it's it's

got electrolytes and essence for flavor and tommy kind of mumbled under his breath that damn near sounds like performance enhancing that sent me off in a giggle fit and i don't know why it was just so funny with the the way he delivered it and just like it's electrolytes like i thought that was really funny so i'm gonna rate it five five massonomics gym ipod touches i'm gonna have to go this is a this is a pretty sore subject for me the the the biggest hang-up that i have with the podcast is it's i mean now it's just those two clouds i mean jesus we're barely hanging on here what are we doing in spite of all of it probably still gonna give it a five it's a good good good fair rating yeah i do have a question for you guys about the home gym stuff

because you mentioned the last couple episodes we're off of the home gyms uh you guys both train out of home gyms i do yes yeah no one's very interesting to see and i don't know is that does that become the massonomics is that the lore now is that everybody ends up in their own hermit i would say like three quarter 60 or more accrue 60 to 70 percent accrue probably our home gym now that says like there might be we could pull we should we can find that out for sure i would say that it's more than 50 and less than 80 so somewhere in there uh i think everyone it's like we're all fucking submasters at least like i don't have kids but a lot of us do and fucking that's that's who trains at home is people that have kids and you know work long hours and don't want to fucking get in a car and drive another half

hour to a gym so plus there's not the right gyms for most places like you know the guys that are just going to do you're going to kind of kind of build your training on a few lifts maybe strong man you know what i mean the the general massonomics scenario training scenario um gyms that are like really just geared towards that are kind of hard to come by and i've almost in any market i've mentioned it before that the massonomics demographic skews um submasters masters above age or um above average income like you can sense that through most of us yeah um you know and that that would make sense then that most of us are also like we're working out in our home gym we've got the equipment you know when texas power bar is one of the sponsors right that's not marketed to gym owners when

you're listening to the mass knowledge podcast right so like it does make sense that most of us are home gyms what would it take for a gym for you to go to that gym so i can kind of so i've just got into strongman and i just bought like a uh a four week or a four time punch card to go so it's like twenty dollars a day at a day pass or if i do a to buy a four at a time it goes down to like 1625 or something so i'm doing that specifically so i can go work out with a crew of strongman on saturdays every now and then and i'm going to do a couple training sessions with like a strongman coach other than that like i can squat bench deadlift overhead press in my 40 000 basement gym and now i've got you know a growing garage gym that i can do more strongman shit so yeah to like leave my gym and go to a commercial gym it would absolutely i would literally have to get like divorced and go into an apartment like that's

the only thing that investment would be yeah there was no way no way if we ran the hypothetical let's just say you don't you currently don't have the home gym you just moved into this location what would it have to be proximity to your house what's the what are the what are like the the must-have checklists for you to be like you know what i'd rather go here even if it's not price isn't even a factor it's all the things that are not the price type of people that train there sometimes like building a vibe kind of like what happens at massonomics gym that training didn't really happen in this town it kind of had to be built by somebody and that was one of the things where it's like you could do that kind of training somewhere but

you were going to be the fucking weird guys and so that's like the only way to do it kind of was to build it so for you guys if you were starting it didn't have your own equipment where do you uh like what would it take for you to not move down the road and build your own gym? When I lived in the city, I joined a gym called Momentum. They had two locations. They had one very, very close to me. And then they had one kind of on the other side of the city. And the one on the other side of the city actually had like a deadlift bar and well, just a straight bar and all that where the one close to me only had like this weird machine

where everything was on hydraulics. And then when I moved out here there was a similar gym very close to me so i started going there but then i started getting into strength training and i just couldn't do strength training in this old man gym so i ended up getting a secondary pass at fit for less which is like the canadian version of planet fitness yeah because the one downtown had actual deadlift platform so when i first started deadlifting my buddy was like well come here with me on a day pass and see what you think and i was like okay so on deadlift day i would go there drop the wife off in the city you go do your shopping go do the things you want to do and go work out for an hour um but then when everything

went on and all of them closed i had already no actually i'd already purchased an olympic power bar and was deadlifting in my gravel pit outside because the one day i went to go deadlift some kid was using the the deadlift platform to do fucking shrugs and i was like that's it i'm done and i went and bought my own bar and started lifting in the pit that's actually when the home gym started was in the pit is it it also seems to be the equipment is one limiting factor but oftentimes it's like the people it's the people it's the people you know i train it i do some coaching at a couple different commercial gyms so i train most of my training now is just like remedial in between my like jujitsu or kickboxing or mma training and so i'm not listening much heavy stuff i kind of get by in and out when i

get in but still you go to a commercial gym and every commercial gym that i've ever been in i wish they charged two or three times as much as they did because it would just eliminate all of the fucking morons you know there's people go in the gym literally eating french fries from mcdonald's right next door yeah i've seen a man drink a large coca-cola out of a mcdonald's cup and set it down and then do his little lever chest press machine in the gym you've seen popcorn upstairs and you know like just all over the floor this is it's it's a mess the people are the biggest i think you could get strong if there is a deadlift platform and a squat rack and a bench like everybody could probably make do but for the most part you just want to not be around

fucking fitness idiots you know it's not even that they're dumb or are training stupid it's like they suck to be around some of them yep yeah now i actually i don't know if you've listened to that episode or anything i actually live right near pure muscle and fitness which is like one of the biggest gyms in canada i think mike wick is one of the owners or at least an investor there and uh so he records all his content out of there. I've been there. That would be fucking dope to lift in. Like when I was there watching the deadlift challenge,

you know, Mitch Hooper was there. Juju was there. Like this was where all of the big people and big names go. The guy that won the grip challenge, he got off stage. Mitch Hooper was like, is that,

that's like one of the strongest men in Canada. And like, I guess he's one Canada's strongest man or something recently and was just there having fun so like that yeah that would be dope those would be great people to be around but at the same time like there's also the fitness models that are there and there's tripods everywhere and i'm not sure you could i'm not sure you could convince me to go to a commercial gym on a regular basis i don't mind even the it really is there's like the high school kids are a nightmare I'm not sure you could convince me to go to a commercial gym on a regular basis. I don't mind even the – it really is – the high school kids are a nightmare.

Oh, God. The broccoli heads are the worst. You know? And then the – I honestly don't mind because I'm always training. I kind of work for myself. So I'm training late morning, early, mid-afternoon, the sweetest times of day to train. So I'm in there with a bunch of the olds. I'm there with just a bunch of elderly people who aren't doing anything cool but like they're pretty out of your fucking way and it's kind of sweet because you're like

you know you'll you'll curl like a 45 pound dumbbell and look at you big strong fella they move on there's nobody jamming you up nobody really cares that much but it is it's i if i had to open a gym like again it'd be like you know i would go like a global gym model i would want all the equipment and shit but i would just make it so prohibitively expensive so i could do business with half as many people for twice the money and i would literally not allow anyone under 18 yeah that's smart i just couldn't fucking do it uh i'm kind of spoiled. Like if I did have to go back to commercial gym, I've got a couple options. One, about 15 minutes away, that strongman, mainly a strongman gym, but it's also very powerful.

Like they put on a couple powerlifting meets a year. It's probably like 50-50 strongman powerlifting. Limited machines, but, you know, combo racks, monolift, like stones, everything you'd need for strongman. And then another one of my buddies opened up a specific powerlifting gym about a year ago and i think he just expanded more recently too i did a i did an open gym when he uh when he opened his new space he's got four combos a mono a bunch of deadlift platforms now that's like brochester hasn't had that like up until recently like there's just been fucking like planet fitness la fitness and a couple like mom and pop places that always end up going under every 10 years uh so hopefully both

these gyms last but yeah for me a lot of it would be the community like if you're not giving back to the lifting community and you're just some old dude like like if you're not hosting a meet or putting on some kind of strongman show or like i don't know like that's what's good about both these they both host meets they both put on like well the one does shows um i with with traveling for as much work as i do i still do have to go to a shitty you know globo gym periodically and those are the worst fucking workouts ever like i'm fighting to get any equipment the bench is fucking like 10 inches wide and hard as a brick it's like the shittiest lifts ever um which is fine if you're not peaking for something but if you're peaking for a meet and you got to go fucking like hit your top single like completely out of your element and

some shitty rack that's not adjustable it's like this is horrible so you gotta ask some like 11 year old kid to spot you we're both gonna fucking die if this doesn't yeah actually i don't have enough weight can you get on like you know the nice thing too though you you kind of ran through this point earlier is that like the home gym though what you both had is like covet you can win yeah people the home gyms really won that stuff so you're like fuck it whatever it is i could still get in and get it done and that's the those are real benefits gyms go gyms open gyms close people the new members change like you could go in if you're a guy that just trains five six o'clock every night that place could be your place. It can be wonderful.

And then like seven fucking dumbasses who want to train at 5 or 6 join. And all of a sudden, that's your hour. And now there's just a cancer in the situation. So I feel that a lot. Because most of what I train, even when we traveled and all the other places we lived, I've had tons of different kinds of gyms. Just whatever's nearby, whatever i want to try and i feel that pretty intensely you always like want to crawl back into your cave i got my stuff it's the stuff i want i don't have to deal with all these other variables but you know keith you mentioned the community thing and you do miss

that if you stay in your home gym but then you kind of got to get out and do stuff to find people that also do the thing you do you go out and you do other things that are like that but the gym can be good for that except i've never really gone to most gyms and been like i'd like to be friends with some of these people i'd be happy if i never saw these people again i've spent the last decade doing power local ish powerlifting meets and like accumulating like instagram friends and then actually getting them to come train with me in my basement periodically so i do an open gym once a month uh well i do it's technical i do one every sunday but only get like one person to come to that and then once a month

i do anywhere from like there's like six to twelve people to come and you know party with me and like work out and deadlift in my basement and shit so like i still get that community aspect but i don't want you to be like you could turn into like the strength sports unibomber oh yeah no i get too too dialed into his fucking garage gym you're like i need i need to check on this dude i like but i mean like the perfect ratio is like 80 alone 20 with people maybe like maybe 70 30 but like no more than 70 30 uh just having people there but yeah but i mean at the end of the day who needs a gym when you have rocks oh yeah joey's got a rock so i i finally got my rock overhead it was only 108 pounds but i mean i overhead my rock finally because i just

didn't think i could and then the the uh highland games rock federation or people they challenged me to do it so i got it i got it overhead in my driveway but now i have to name it and apparently that's a tradition is once you finally lift a rock especially overhead you get to name your rock so it's been about a week and i still don't have a name i just wanted to throw that out there i thought that's gonna be the unveiling shopping it at all what's that yeah i'm gonna workshop in it at all uh i put on an instagram story and everybody gave me some really funny answers i kind of want to name it after bray wyatt i was gonna name it wyatt um you know uh because i thought that was kind of cool uh but that's been like the only steady name but i'm sure i'll hear something that'll go no that's even better but right now why

it's kind of the range but then there's also like i'm gonna get another rock like i'm gonna be out somewhere and i'm gonna see a rock that's a little bigger and be like i want that one now then eventually i have to name that one right so i'm gonna need a couple names it's the most strength sport it's autism thing i've ever heard in my life yeah i don't i don't have never named any i mean outside of naming my actual gym i've never i don't think i've named any of my equipment like i've never named them like i have friends i have friends that have named like barbells and shit i've never i don't have too many barbells to name jesus you never name a barbell that's yeah i've never named my rock but apparently it's tradition and i don't want to be the stone

lifter here in canada that doesn't name his rock like i'm not gonna break tradition but yeah that's you've never heard that like when you're in a lift in rocks you just be walking and be like or out driving because i'll be in the car and i'll go rocks and morgan be like are you gonna pull over and lift it no so we had a guy who used to put on uh strongman cup i don't know if he still does but if you in the way in the earlier mathonomics episodes tanner i talked a few times about going to the state fair strongman contest oh yeah so that was a ton of fun but that guy is like his kind of thing it was one of the signatures for that event was he just would exactly what you said joey he'd go driving around he'd just see a rock that looked like it'd be tough to lift and the guy that ran it chuck like he's not built like tanner or i like he's just he's

just not that kind of guy not that kind of athlete and so he would he would spend like all year between events any rock he'd see he'd be like i think those big boys from up north can get that and if he thought it would be a challenge he'd go through all the trouble of like figuring out how on his own or whatever he could get this into his trucks so he could get it to the state fair the next year i love that yeah so every year he had like some new thing and it was just he wasn't trying to like have us not get it but he was like i kind of want to see if they if every time he puts something out we do it easily he was like all right fuck it next year full send bud and once tanner started like massonomics the gym and the the brand and all that stuff the that's the thing that kind of started now that that contest was just no offense schmucks and farmers and average

joes that just like i feel like i'm tough guy and then all of a sudden there's guys that actually really lift that were showing up to this yeah and after as soon as that started happening tanner was like tanner won a few years so this guy's like oh shit and he kept bringing guys from aberdeen and then massive had a gym so we're bringing four five six guys every year so this guy had to like really escalate the challenges he was presenting very quickly over probably like a three or four year, four year span. So. Good stuff. Hey, that's a good segue. Do you want to get into the ad read?

Do you got one for us today, Tyler? Let's do it guys. We need you to go visit massonomics.com. It's the hottest, mostly original apparel you could possibly imagine. It's, it's the place, the, the platform that if you look deep enough into the archives you're going to find terrible blog articles that other people that used to be associated with the business would maybe prefer that they just delete uh but you're going to find all the things well honestly though like mass economics the brand itself i think has become where would you guys rank it in the world of strength sports regarding just like brand

visibility right now for sure top 10 yeah i was gonna say top 10 like for sure for i i start five and i don't know what i put above it that's not let's say purely an equipment you know what i mean there's some equipment stuff and some entities that are larger but if you're talking entertainment and content and also apparel like a true brand i get a top five and i don't know the four that i put in front of them but i'm sure there probably are some that's fair so you got a couple guys that started this thing up from like truly the middle of nowhere like the depths of south dakota with fucking nothing land where there wasn't even other people to train strong and he's like let's just start with this gym and all this stuff started flowing so it's really good to see guys that are actually like about it and i

think that's one of the things that really connects to regular folks and really the athletes and everybody consumes massonomics content the lower all that stuff is that like it's really nice to see dudes that are like good dudes who are just kind of about this life kind of get their due and it's an it's impactful and it's nice and tommy does i'll do tommy's homework for a while like tanner has no fucking style don't let him tell you otherwise and i'm and i and i was the worst you know when i was by i i've we won't even get into how bad my style was but like tommy stylistically he still keeps it young keeps it hip and he's super super super talented so there's a reason on all my other businesses i

work with tommy and all our branding and stuff oh nice uh yeah massonomics get fucking with it if you're in the strength sports world and you're not buying all the massonomic shit you're fucking up and you're behind the eight ball because the one thing that i'll say having been associated with massonomics is the guys that see it and recognize it like really get it you're not wearing a fucking rogue shirt you're not wearing a fucking super training gym shirt you're not you know what i mean it's you're not wearing like some other shit that's just kind of played out or that it's just really not that original and i think the massonomic stuff if you're wearing massonomics gear out in public and someone else spots you on it and they and they give you the thumbs up like you know that's

like a real ass dude yeah totally and uh you can go find him on facebook right tyler you probably can no joke canter still does a little bit of facebook but that was to harken back to you always uh on the earlier episodes you always said don't forget to check out our facebook you know you guys were pushing now too facebook still is like you still kind of have to do it like if you're gonna run ads and things like this to try to actually like market stuff you got to do it but it's weird like facebook is this world where it's now really the oldest and lamest you know it's not that cool i don't even have it i love that i tell you man's got a cell you know yeah it's too much i have too much family i can never get rid of it and like it's still like all my family it's easy 60 plus your old relatives are on there so 20 years of

memories yeah the the like business in the business space this is a thing i've been coached on a bunch it's like we always get told the first thing you're supposed to do if you're like professionally yourself or you use facebook your facebook page for marketing they tell you go in and unfriend every person who's your family every person who's your old high school friend unfriend every person who's like literally not even close to being a person who's going to buy the thing that you're selling because it'll fuck up your algorithm and limit your exposure. And I'm like, my fucking grandma would kill me.

Yeah. If you ever found out that I wasn't still friends with her on Facebook, end of the goddamn world. Yeah. I can see that. All right. So that was great. Love it.

A little bit of history there. We want to get our guests on the horn. I want to kick out the looky lose. Let's do it. All right. I'll kick people out. You bring them on in all right it's a big big tyler effing stone is that you buddy it is happy to be here thanks for having me welcome to the unpaid underrated podcast you are live we are you know we're going to dive right in because we don't want to miss any gold here okay let's get right to it so uh the i mean the biggest question i think and we ask everybody this one but i i kind of think you might have the most

in-depth answer what brought you to the world of massonomics so i had started i this is it's it's a hella lame origin story but it's a real one so i want to gloss around it i was like a super fat regular old guy in his 30s like just got fat as shit and was working and so i needed to do something and i got tricked into doing crossfit by my friend who had already lost like 100 pounds so i was like fuck i can't let him i can't be fatter than him i'll do it to beat him so i started doing it obviously it might build about six and a half feet tall and i was like 350 360 when i started like crossfit was not the thing that was going to be the thing but i was built for the the things that i was good at within whatever those training domains were the things that connected to me but throughout that process i tried to share it so i did a bunch of

writing and things like this and i was consulted with a guy who was like you need to collaborate because there's really no building a brand on a blog or anything like this and at the same time tanner and tommy who was we're fucking around at the ymca like had basically had a logo the brand i didn't know that these guys at all never met him and so these two power lifters were then moving into this just disgusting shitty dungeon that nobody wanted to be in with equipment that nobody wanted but they were really cool cool guys and they were training to get strong which is exactly the stuff that i like to do so i literally just reached out to tanner and my thing was i said i i think we should talk i kind of like the stuff to do let's go to train

so i went met tanner and tanner was a fucking unit back then that tanner had about a two-year stretch in the beginning of mass economics where he was like, he put on a massive amount of weight every year. It was nuts. Every new meet Tanner would show up. So Tanner was strong as fuck back then. So I go over there. I was like, you know, obviously the strongest giant guy at a CrossFit gym.

And you're like, okay, this is the place I need to train. These are the people I need to train with. But back then in that era, you guys remember, this is circa 15 maybe, 14, 15, if I'm doing it right. And the podcast world had popped off a ton in that three years, right? Three, four years before that, Rogan had gotten nuts. So I listened to a ton of podcasts. It became the primary thing that I consumed entertainment-wise

during my day. Drive around work, service calls. I'm listening to Mark Bell's podcast, Joe Rogan, like Barbell Shrugged, anything that I could consume to keep me interested in fitness, health, training, whatever I did. So I really thought that it would have been awesome if I would have started this show three or four or five years ago. So I told Tanner the same thing. I was like, if you guys are going to start this brand or business you should have a podcast he said i

don't have any fucking idea how to do that and i was like well i used to be like in bands you know like i play instruments i'm sure i could figure out the audio stuff fortunately at that time i had this last time i had like a real job that i worked for other people which was also like the most money i've had in that entire time. So at the time I was like, yeah, I'll just fucking buy a bunch of gear. My house is huge. We got a bunch of different rooms that I don't use that we could put it in. So we fucking pulled the trigger and they said, he said, I said, let's do it.

Let's start the podcast. He said, but there's no money, right? We don't make any money. We don't sell any apparel. We don't even know what this brand is. And so these guys came to basically like, I was like, it if you're starting the business just i'll handle all this i'll invest this and we'll just go in as partners so we signed in as partners and that's when the podcast started and my wife was like not i was gonna ask about that i was gonna say how did

megan feel about this this was another project where she was just like god fucking damn it tyler you know because i do these things where i like i'll like hyper fixate on something and just just fully do it you probably if you were in the show back then or listen that's the that's kind of the thing that i i will do which at that point in a business or in a brand is like you have to try everything because we don't know they didn't know that eventually they would connect with the market that it did and the vibe would click and the that memes would become popular and the tanner would be so good at it you know what i mean all those things like we started doing some memes maybe like a year in and i was like oh that's really funny you got to remember like the meme wave was not a it wasn't such a high percentage

of what's on the internet i don't remember memes like seven years ago, eight years ago very much. No. So it happens every once in a while. Tanner would drop one in a format. It would be hilarious. And then I'd try to make one and it would miss the mark because I didn't get it. And after like two of those, I'm like, I'm staying completely out of the creativeness. I'll just handle the podcast stuff.

And I think that was the best move. But at that time you have to we just tried a bunch of shit right we're like i don't know let's train in my garage of podcasts let's talk about this let's talk about that let's you have to for people that ever want to get into podcasting what i tell everybody is you got to do stuff that's interesting the nice thing about us having that podcast is it just made us try stuff it's like fuck it you guys want to go to the arnold it'll give us something to do it It's not a total net negative on the experience. And that's where going to the Arnold started. It was just something to do. So we'd have something to talk about, maybe get some content. And so we tried a million things. 15 of them stuck. A couple of them gave me some opportunities and I went elsewhere but that process was like we just had to throw a lot of stuff at the wall and see what happened fortunately like the guys are really our

aces you know the two guys that are there tanner and tommy are really it was very easy it was just really really easy for things to work really well when guys are like that you know it would be fucking crazy if that project fell on its face you know i just don't it's just not really guys that are going to do it well and do a thing consistently over a long enough time you guys are what this is 50 plus episodes 55 yeah we had our year a couple weeks ago which is like the hell the fuck does that like how many people have podcasts that last a year every and with an episode every week and i told you when you guys started right that the threshold is still about the same it's about 17 to 19 episodes it's like 90 plus percent of all podcasts that have ever existed don't make it over that threshold yeah i think

if you make it over a year it's like nearly 99 i was pretty stoked i was i was very very happy that we did that when i saw that a couple weeks ago yeah yeah i think you messaged me around episode 23 and you realize i think that's when you said you did it. Like you beat most of people. Yeah, and now all you have to do is not quit. Like that careful preservation of a forward lean. It's like I don't fuck this up. I don't get worse the whole time, so I get a little better.

And it all shows up. But back to when we started, like I said, I was like, fuck, but if we would have started three years ago we'd be kings of the fucking heap right and nowadays still there's people that i talk about starting podcasts when they have good ideas i'm like i get you wish you think that if you started five years ago now that you'd be things to be so much better and that's probably true but you still got to start now because even like i said in hindsight now that opportunity in 2015 or 16 to start a show i thought the whole podcast market was already a wash at that point and who how dumb is that how dumb of a take is that yeah you know what i mean like this is over man we're never gonna break through and how many new shows fucking have popped off since then all right i dig it and now there you are on the unpaid and underrated

big things big things coming unpaid and underrated i keep saying so i do have to i do got to interrupt this is a funny this is a little bit funny you guys do some really good show prep here right so you guys reach you guys reach out to a couple people and acquaintances and friends and stuff you try to get get some info make sure you're not make sure you're prepared for the show and so what's funny is in in your guys this thing that you send out to people one of the things is we want to we want to maybe get something that will maybe surprise them where we can catch them off guard with and both of the people that you guys talk to know me so well that they've reached out to me directly and go i know the one thing you hate more than anything in this world is to be caught off guard so they still didn't tell me what they

told you but they were like hey i got these questions how do you want me to handle that and i'm like don't worry you'll be fine just do it so i didn't sell you out or didn't have them pollute the product but they both like they both pulled the ripcord they're like tyler is gonna hate it if he gets surprised on a podcast i honestly don't i don't think i got anything that wasn't public knowledge by the backlog like like if you didn't say it on the podcast or like on social media or tanner and tommy didn't say it about you like i don't think i got too much that hasn't been and i where were you on 9-11 yeah no and we don't do anything that's getting anyone with like we i mean i might have asked some bad questions in the past

but like we try to like not do anything that's going to get you in trouble or like, I mean, that's what I say. I mean, I want to embarrass people, but like to like a, to a, to a point. And it's like, you got to get right to that threshold of like, you know? So, you know, I usually go through the, like, I'll spend an hour going through the notes and I will like, Keith has seen it. I'll be like, we're not talking about that.

We're not talking about that. Like I will go and do that. Cause he doesn't, he'll just copy and paste. I still look through it, but I've already invested hours getting the information from people. So that's when I'll go through just again, protect the brand, protect our guests. I'll be like, Nope, Nope.

Absolutely. And yeah, that is the joke. I'm pretty HR friendly. I won't, you know, nothing. No prohibited grounds. We call it up here in Canada. No prohibited grounds. All right.

Well, that was fun. What's your Hall of Fame status? Did you get a Hall of Fame card? No, I did the math on it. I'm a couple. I think I'm a couple short technically. And I think for what I would have to do to do it, I'm trying to remember. I don't know if I have that pulled up conveniently, but I've looked through.

I think I'm like maybe too short of like the first one, whatever the first tier is. I think I'm 12. Yeah, it's 12. And I honestly think the one that I would have to eat, one of them would be, I'd have to listen to all the episodes of Masonomics. No, I'm not doing that either. I'm not doing that. I have. Well, and I don't want this to sound the episodes of massanomics i'm not doing that either i'm not doing that i have i could i well and there's a reason i don't want this to sound the wrong way but like i love tanner and

tommy but after after my last episode the only episodes i've listened to are the ones where i've been back on it since and it really is a matter of like it's like you know if you if you break up with someone and you truly think that it's just this is better this matter of like it's like you know if you if you break up with someone and you truly think that it's just this is better this is nice maybe it's not healthy to constantly be checking in on their instagram feed all the time you know what i mean yeah so one thing i don't want to and actually in reality was like i like the project you want them to find your own way and the last thing you want to do is have me watch and be like why would i have done this differently and i would have done this early on me like i really want to give them their space because by the way when like when i left we were a three-person show the whole

time so it's like can can it can it be done with two people was kind of a question that like we were all kind of considering and then like sure enough they just tanner literally slid right into your like host spot like you know within like a month maybe of having it just no jitters after that. And if anyone that hasn't listened to the backlog, there's different timelines of like it was a three-man show, a three-man show with some interviews, a two-man show, and then a two-man show with interviews. And it just kind of progressed with that. So yeah, there's definitely different eras for sure. Yeah. But to get – yeah, the Hall of Fame stuff, i'd either have to probably compete which i maybe could but i've been like

just constantly hurt from martial arts i've been i had almost no real injuries training strongman and competing in strongman for those years you know and like i got like relatively strong and i did okay for a middle-aged guy but two three and a half years of kickboxing, two years of jiu-jitsu and MMA, my shoulders are more destroyed than I've ever been from bench pressing. My knee exploded in my first 90 seconds of jiu-jitsu competition. Just dislocated and blew apart. You're like, fuck. So I don't know that me competing in a strength sport is something i should do

so maybe i'm going to see if i'll uh i'll see if i get grandfathered in is there anything uh is there any piece of massonomics merchandise that you uh well you can even because you can answer this kind of differently because you might have owned something you maybe don't own anymore just because you know you, you outgrew it or it doesn't fit. But like what's one Mastodonics piece of merch that you wish you could still wear today? Wish I could still wear? Honestly, how about this? There's one that I wish I could wear.

We talked about the huge life design, and I think that is just such a great one, especially if you're a huge guy. Truly, I'm a pretty huge guy. So if I walk in the room, it's kind of a flex to the huge life shirt. But I think Sneaky, the pull sumo, Jordan knockoff, that design is just a fucking dope design. But I don't pull sumo, so I can't do it. And the other thing for all of the the mass here's a little back bit too i can't ever wear white shirts we had great creative differences but i will you will almost only ever see me wear by the way this is the same blank that all the

mass economic shirts sure it is it's the next level cbc i think it's a 62 10 i've got 100 fucking next level shirts between different brands and they all fit fucking different it's a it's a next level thing not a tanner thing yeah and so they uh but i've got like this is what i have on all my other projects too all the other it's this blank i have this black shirt but it's all black once you get into colors the blanks are very different still even if those the same. But I am too gross in armpits and food spillage and beard stuff. Joey, you know this. A man with a beard can't be eating burgers in public. You'll never eat a sandwich out of your house without a spotter.

You can't eat a sandwich without a spotter ever. You have someone you care about to tell you there's something in your beard. You're going to look like a moron. I have to time my chicken wings. I have to make sure I'm shampooing my beard that night or the next day if i eat chicken wings i talked about that last week because it's just acting yeah yeah so so i can't do the white shirts you're never gonna see me wear white shirts if i do it's something i'll pull out a special occasion lit in a way like i can never it looks gray my wife sucks at washing white shirts they all just

turn flat and gross and it's it's terrible so the white ones i would never ever wear i wish maybe i could pull it off that might be the one that's probably the best answer to the question and the other ones is i have a really intense hatred for pocket print shirts where on the front of the shirt there's just a print where a pocket would be and then there's more stuff on the back. I think it's the lamest shit ever. You got to have like some intense, maybe 10 years younger than me, dad hipster vibe, maybe to pull that off.

I don't know whatever it is. I don't like it. I only buy shirts like there's one criteria if I'm going to wear clothes that matters the most is does it make me not look fat? And does it make me look jacked that's that it's the fit exclusively and the print can help with that nobody looks more jacked with a pocket print on the front than they would do if it had a real big logo it's always a step backwards so it's not actually a real creative difference but I would never ever ever buy one and wear one because I just don't know if i could pull it off okay i can relate for sure um so are you an aberdeen native

then or uh or south dakota born and raised in aberdeen yeah nice you're the only one out of the three because they're both like aberdeen adjacent growing up right yeah tom tanner was a small town maybe like 15 20 minutes away it yeah, he's like hella country. Tommy is another town. But again, we're talking Aberdeen like this is a real city. It's 25,000 people. It's hard. But Tanner and Tommy, Tanner is from the actual sticks and Tommy is from a town of 3,000 people.

It's hard to explain that to people who haven't been there because like we've obviously like we've all been there and like yeah going where when we when we land and i can already picture the people that are on that airplane that are not lifters are going to be so confused why these wide men are all going into aberdeen at the same time but like the lift hardly easy we had to at least increase the population by 10 percent for sure by body weight for sure by body weight at that meet and at the very least the town's overall three lift total goes way up that might be the strongest weekend that Aberdeen ever is.

Now, was that pretty cool for you to see them put that meet on last year and see the ice arena literally have like 500 people in it or whatever? It was awesome. I think this year, the thing was,

is that was the first and everything we've done with the Massanam, especially the events, is everybody actually really, really likes them. They're fun. We're spectator friendly.

They move them very, very, very quickly to the point where it should be uncomfortable for the competitors how fast it's moving but nobody wants to start a meet and end it 12 hours later so it's like fuck it your warm-up's getting cut off let's party yeah and so it goes pretty quick but then you're gonna see a lot more spectators actually there well whether they're coming and going for the day or not you'll see i i would be willing to bet two to three x the amount of people in the stands and it's that's always the way it was our first one was a tent nobody heard about it we marketed it but it's just people that know us second strongman event was pretty big

third one we gave away like 1500 maybe 2000 fucking flyers there's a ton of people in the space so this will continue to catch eyes it's a good party that you know it's it's only going to attract people adjacent to this set of interests but it'll smoke them out dude that's that's the nice thing it'll be a ton of fun but to see that event was really nice the other thing that i really did like was um that my wife won the women's best lifter mega def of the stone following on instagram but and and tanner even said afterwards he was like i'm really glad you won because it was like it's nice to keep one of the belts in town so we still got that belt still hanging up down at massonomics gym nice so it's very because here's what happens normally when massonomics puts in it puts on an event i'm not going to say that they

put on events so that tanner can win They put on events and then Tanner wins them. We've been mocking him. Don't worry. He keeps hinting he's going to be at this one. And we're just like, oh, great. But this one, he didn't compete. And also, he's had some injuries and been a busy man outside of all this. So he didn't compete in that one.

So it was just guys from the gym, just people from the gym. And so it was really nice to have see megan come and take the cake and and it wasn't because there wasn't good competition there was a lot of really good female lifters there so it was going to be tough for a lot of average shows to beat oldham you know what i mean like a lot of just regular guys but in the women's division it was it was actually pretty competitive and it was nice so that was probably my favorite part did she tell you the next day how we completely ruined her workout uh no we all because you guys were all down there right yeah and then i was like hey congratulations because i was already following her and you on instagram right and i was like oh mag joey like

we've talked on instagram and she's like you know congratulations on winning i was like can you show me how to lift the stones so she put on this like impromptu course on how to lift stones which attracted like all of the strength co people then tanner was like okay now i want to lift those stones and then like i'm trying to lift those stones and then she's just kind of like well i gotta go now and i was like oh no you didn't get a chance to do any of your stuff i promise if she if she would trade a workout for the opportunity to like fucking stunt like that i mean everybody everybody if you you got y'all trained long enough if you could ever get to the point where there's a room of people gathered around because they want

to see you explain how to do a thing in the gym you're like yeah this is my fucking crowning achievement that might have been cooler for her than bringing home the belt so yeah that was good that was really fun uh stones are hard as shit i'm just getting into stones like i i can't do stones without my biceps hurting so i gotta figure that one out of like keeping my elbows locked and shit. I've got an appointment next week with a coach, basically. We have to do the Stone of Steel at the Strongman show. I'm doing the Strongman show this year, and I completely don't know jack shit about Strongman.

That one, and I couldn't lap 160 with a Stone of Steel, but I can do a 240-pound regular Stone. I'm like, what the fuck? I guess it's because the diameter is bigger of the Stone of Steel. i got that thing is slapping is so much grip so you got to cheat you got to you got to figure out what what within the realm what within the realm of grip assistance you can do whether it's spray tack lineman or why i i did i have i have wide receiver gloves and i've got a grip shirt all like showing up this week you gotta you just gotta give it a shot piecemeal a bunch of subpar solutions together. Because it is just you got to hook up with it. But yeah, the more you can stick to it, the better.

But that lift is like stones. You mentioned on the biceps. I've had pretty, not major, but a handful of minor tears on the inside of my biceps, both of them. The heaviest stone I ever was doing a contest. I think it was, I don't know if it was three that I got or a couple, but that I couldn't, like I had bruising and everything like that. It wasn't fully detached. There was no surgical solution, but like I've had tendonitis literally just from, I trained for stones. I compete with stones at the end of a summer or season. And then I'd have like debilitating elbow tendonitis for just from I'd train for stones, I'd compete with stones at the end of a summer or season

and then I'd have like debilitating elbow tendonitis for six months you know to where like even in squat workouts I couldn't pick up my own 45 pound plates to put on the bar to squat I just couldn't handle that it hurts so bad so I feel you on

the bicep thing it's a technical thing but also sometimes if you're just hooked up with something and your arms aren't there's the ability for them to flex like they're gonna get shoot up something's gonna get shoot up you know you gotta shave everyone i know do i know i just let it go i was gonna say no keith you gotta shave your arms i'll shave you can use tacky i fucking i well i do good thing you can't right yeah you can't use tacky on the side so you can use tacky towel and receiver gloves but which i'm fine with because like i've i've done like i did a session last weekend and the boys

were breaking out the tacky and i'm like fuck that i don't want to like get this and they're just like fucking it's the just playing grab ass and like warming up the tacky and stuff i'm like i don't want tacky i don't want those not my not my scene i think when you're using regular stones i do like it i do like tacky is great for confidence because if you're training with regular stones you're only using spray tack and stuff like that like the easier to clean up solutions your confidence gets really fucking kicked in the ass right as you build up to the meet so you always i always like to get two or three like sloppy tacky stone sessions in beforehand because it's a huge boost in your confidence you know you have actually the strength to do it it's all a matter of keeping it attached to you and so like but training with tacky is an absolute fucking nightmare you have to have clothes

you hate you don't ever want to wear yeah you got to expect to to be gummed up and gross for a couple days it doesn't get off no matter what you say yeah it's not stuck in your fingernails and it did not that does not sound fun and uh speaking of fun so i have this game we started a couple weeks ago so it's going to call it's we're calling it least fun and most fun so i'm gonna give you a few topics um you're not picking what's least fun and what's most fun you're just going to tell me about this individual topic. Like what's one thing you consider the least fun and what's one thing you consider the most fun about the individual topic. So big Tyler, least fun, most fun living in Europe.

Most fun. Let's see here. Most fun is like literally like nightlife in Europe. Europe is pretty fun even if you're a mid-30s like like you can get out and have some pretty wild really cool unique experiences that are definitely very different than what you're going to get in south dakota you know nightclubs that are open till 7 a.m and then after bar like even being an old man talking about partying that late is pretty crazy but like i'll be god damn you pop one of those off every once in a while holy shit what a wild time that was a ton of fun uh least fun is doing things in german

but i always knew especially when we were in austria that we're only going to be there for a year and a half or two years and then we're going to move to holland so i didn't bother to learn to speak german i could read enough of it to get around and do transportation and all this stuff. But the German life, even my friends who know German, who are German speaking, they said, life's too short to learn German. But in reality, you know, we lived just outside of Vienna there. And so the problem was you'd go to these, some of these places and like, I just want to buy fucking, believe or not like shampoo or so and you just can't even get started

just imagine having every single social interaction you have whether it's someone asking you a question on the street or on the train or in a store imagine every social interaction starting with i don't know what you just said i only speak english sorry and then they're like oh fuck this fuck and then you have to build from there that fuck that's really already in the horror it's a hard way to go about days and meet your neighbors and all that stuff is tough so that'd be very depressing yeah it all was pretty cool amsterdam's a ton of fun but we're there during the covid year in amsterdam so there's worse places to be locked down for for sure and my business partner lived right in the red light district so like you go there and everything's closed and normally when they were

open it's wall-to-wall people there's brits pissing and shitting in the street just chaos 24 hours a day so during that time we go out it was so quiet you could take we take like his dining room table we take it outside set it by the canals it's just nobody's probably the quietest amsterdam's been since some guy with a mustache invaded in the 40s you know that's right well on that note you invaded walked in and just went this is mine now all right i'm gonna do one more least fun most fun before we move on so uh i got two to pick from i don't know which one's gonna hit better so

uh least fun most fun hosting a podcast least fun thing about hosting a podcast the least fun thing about hosting a podcast is having to do with it when nobody's listening for so long. When you start a podcast, you just have to know that like, listen, like there's 15 people watching this and in six months, there's going to be 30 and that the game is just,

you gotta, you just have to accumulate it. I was telling, if you don't cross your, nobody gives a shit until you're at 400, 350, 400 episodes. You can't expect to even be relevant in your space or in your community or even to your own audience until you're at 300 plus episodes.

It's just the way it is. So that's the least fun. It's just constantly having to do it. You're like talking into the void. There's not a lot of things to reinforce you. You go to the gym, you get a good workout, and you feel good, right? Yeah. You do a podcast and nobody listens

to it if you don't enjoy just like having the conversation you're fucked because then nobody gonna pay you there's not you know you just you gotta you gotta eat a lot of shit and that's shit but you gotta spend a lot of time putting in reps before it matters that so that that is probably the least fun and the most fun is once you cross that threshold and then like you're like oh shit people know me they know this project people like this project i thought i was just fucking around this whole time and we've had that on kind of most of the projects that i've done i've been fortunate to have a few of them that have grown or we've got pretty large audiences and so each of them has been very fun for different reasons but a lot of that is once you start to get like

connected with an audience and people really like you and like your product then you get to meet tons of new people and i've met people from all over the world so getting across getting past that point to the point where like oh this thing matters and it's interesting that's hands down best part nice to to piggyback on that you had mentioned like you know as far as podcasting when no one's listening if you're not actually enjoying the podcasting aspect of it i feel like i i love fucking doing this like each week we have such we have such a a niche awesome thing we get to just shoot or shoot the shit with like homies for a couple hours every week and like people like i always say like i'm i'm doing this so when we meet we get together at the arnold and lift hard and crew falls like you've already

fucking listened to this person talk for two hours so like i'm gonna have interviewed or talked to you know it's almost 50 people and everyone that's there that has like been a loyal listener has would have listened to over 50 people's episodes like that's just that's why i love this i fuck i'm gonna keep this bitch running as long as we can yeah i even this morning like not this morning or this afternoon as i was leaving work i was like i still have to fucking podcast tonight i'm so tired but then like as soon as it's time to get on here i'm just like hey like i'm so excited because it is like you know my least fun most fun the least fun is the you know that six and seven eights of days that i'm not doing this part of it yeah that this part of it it. We got spoiled. We had an audience right off the bat. Yeah.

We didn't really have to spoil that audience, right? And I tell you what, I think podcasts can either connect with a format. There's still a million completely untapped formats in podcasts that I think people could do. I think you could literally just read movie reviews. Just read funny movie reviews and you'd be fine. There's a million microscopic formats that i think someone could build and it would grow very quickly the problem with podcasting in general i think is platforms with which people find that they listen to podcasts or watch them on aren't

actually useful at all in getting your podcast in front of new people so to actually grow and like turn the real corner you still have to then you have to use your podcast to make the content but then you have to then do tiktok or instagram reels you still got to be making the clips and then you still have to constantly produce content out of the thing you've already made which that gets laborious and sometimes it's like yeah i don't have time for that and the stuff that clicks that's the most interesting you know it's like the conspiracy randy project it's like we're with millions and millions of views and a audience of 100 000 plus people on the show but i don't want to make the clips because i'm like i'm just fucking around

and if i say some shit where it's like i think you know jfk was probably actually killed by nasa and i got somebody to be like what are you stupid i was like no i'm fucking joking dude yeah and you just i can't deal with that type of of engagement so we kind of walked back the content creation on that but that is definitely like one of the things about growing a podcast is like to get your audience you gotta either spend a lot of time or you gotta network really well and some of networking is social media and a lot of podcasters i from what i can see and i'm glad we never went that road are deliberately provocative and i have zero patience for people that are deliberately provocative and especially especially in your like outward marketing yeah i got a show that's

very deliberately provocative but we practically keep it in the cave so it's just us being hilarious yeah i mean if i if i led with it it'd be like putting your worst foot forward sometimes you know yeah and you know we we a little bit we have a running joke here where i say things wrong yeah and you got to figure out whether i'm doing it on purpose or whether i'm fucking with you and that's about like that's when people get on there and be like i can't believe he said this wrong but like that's the extent of our provocation and you get these people out there and they're just like well we're gonna have this guy and he's gonna say some mean things about this group of people and you're like the fuck are you doing like you're not you're not getting

away with anything you're not entertaining anybody you're gonna get some hate views it becomes like controversy porn or like confrontation porn or borderline rage but it's like yeah and that and the problem was is like with our stuff on tiktok that was going nuts the problem was is it wasn't even opinions i had like i don't care we're just making jokes i think the biggest video we ever had was me claiming making a connection to like the uh the first apple computer was sold for 666 dollars it was like this very specific price what a bunch of satanic bullshit that was kind of it right and like this fucking it got like two and a half

million views that's and people would fall for that they'd be so over the top so then the next thing that happens is that podcast episode that's an hour of us talking about everything but that all of a sudden there's like 60 000 people watch it that week i'm like fuck i don't want this i don't i don't want that that's not the people i want to watch this because they're watching it to find a reason to get mad well that project is i like having fun with my friend yeah so the audience will either get it or won't and they'll come or they won't but i don't want to like fucking embarrass my poor parents or some shit because i can't get high in my friend's garage and tell jokes you know yeah i have to uh i i i share the podcast my personal page on facebook 90 of the time but depending on how creative nate gets with our episode title because

we always pick like a funny episode title and sometimes it's a little too like I can't have that on Facebook. So I don't need my like 80 year old aunts and shit seeing that sexual innuendo. I just can't have that. Exactly. Yeah. All right. So Big Daddy Fat Sex. I got a big question for you.

We're going to go with a Mount Rushmore question. So Mount Rushmore is it's a game that tanner made up where because they're from south dakota because they're in south dakota they have mount rushmore you know all this stuff um so i'm gonna just give you a topic and i want you to tell me of this who is gonna go your top four on your mount rushmore mountain you want to first off you want to talk about how not south dakota i am i was about to ask is mount rushmore four or five guys nice four we're good yeah we're good yeah and also the joke about tanner inventing the game is pretty funny uh so mount rushmore of classic rap songs.

As a guy who's been accused of being a fan of rap music, the thing is too is like, I've been a rap fan since I was like seven, eight years old. My first time I ever got a rap album was the Warren G, Regulate, Gene Funk era. I tricked my, some girl in my like middle school class told me about it. So I was like, well, I must get it. So I tricked my some girl in my like middle school class told me about it so i was like well i must get it so i tricked my parents into buying it and like i had that on actually

was on tape right and so ever since then it just stuck with me forever so it's like a giant fat white guy in south dakota i was a pop enthusiast growing up but listening to like some really pretty horrible shit for like an eight or nine year old and it's not impacting right so yeah i don't know so you're talking songs or albums songs let's go songs songs okay i mean i think we just like oh like i'm 40 so everything i'm going to hit is going to be very very dating but i'm also 40 so you're probably 39 on the list in no particular order i believe fully dre's next episode is that that the off of the 2001 the that is just it's it's i think it's phenomenal so i put that on the list i don't go a ton further back than that like i don't really care about the nwa era it's just before my time so um i'm

intent i'm tempted to put like regulators or something off that warren g album but that's not even my favorite song off of that album um i'm a huge fan of the there's a snoop dogg oh snoop dogg what's my name that's on the list for sure okay put that on every once in a while you forget about that one you're like fuck that one goes really really really hard uh there was a sneaky project that not many people got super into snoop dogg did a thing called the east siders snoop dogg presents the east siders spelled with extra a's of course okay uh that there's an album deuces and trades the old-fashioned way it's tremendous and i'm tempted to put the single off of that i love it on there but it's not it the song is called i pledge allegiance and there's

a home run so look it up that's number three number four fuck this is gonna i'm just gonna not i'm gonna i'm nearly at a blank um who else is gonna be on this list? Do you guys have anyone you'd throw out on the list? I'd throw X on there for sure. Oh, DMX, yes. Yeah, I'm a big fan of Earl. Here's another. How about this? I won't even do this.

You said X. I'm going to go the wrong X just because it's a fun track. Exhibits. There's two albums that exhibit release in there that are like crazy good. Like people, you sleep on me, you'll forget for a decade. And I might go either DNA or probably Alcoholic actually might be the one off of that. So this is going to be obscure. These are not the most popular ones, but those are going to be my four.

If I got to move a room, those are the four. Some of our listeners will go seek them out just because they're on here. Find them. It's a jam jam you'll have a blast yeah i definitely i'd throw x on there for sure but i'm just a dmx fan like yeah and i get it yeah yeah i get it since i was in high school i think never a big rap guy but a couple that stood out in that era i was like like songs that i'd listen to my older brothers play who were wearing the rap was was it uh coolio's uh gangster's paradise and then uh uh crossroads by uh bone thugs those are like my two like go to late 90s rap song or probably mid mid mid mid-ish line 90s rap songs that i actually like could like like know the lyrics to yeah yeah i'll tell you this here's here's one here's a little

gem for those of you guys that do like this there's an entire album that most people don't know exists nate dog has a solo album that he released called music and me nate dog was always the feature all the best so there's all these best songs always featured nate dog it was wonderful nate dog did release an album and each album or each song of that features kind of a bunch of people that he also was on so there's a nathog album called music and me i believe most classic rap albums and even new rap albums all these like if you had to pick like your favorite rap album of all time if we're being real there's three to five songs that are good and the rest are pretty skippable that's the reality of it right

you put on dr dre's chronic 2001 album and there's three maybe four that i'm going to listen to the rest we're going to move through even though they are whatever but nate dog's music and me album is probably like 80 percent fucking awesome and if you haven't heard it they're all as much home runs as any of his features so there's a lot of a lot of gems in there i got accused by a uh a young black man bartender he came up to me and he goes he was just talking to me and he says how did he put this he was just trying to talk to me about music making a conversation he goes well you obviously don't listen to the rap music so and he just went on and i've like never been so racially profiled and

hurt in my life because i told you how much it is and i'm like you know what the whole time he says it then he goes on to tell me about drake and i'm like how dare you yeah but i let him i let him i let him have his thing because all i can take away from it i was like you know what even as a 40 year old middle class white guy in the midwest i guess racism does affect everybody and i've never felt so attacked in my fucking life than being told that i obviously don't listen to listen to rap music yeah this is the most how dare you moment i've ever had getting getting into ubers is really fun up here because you'll get in there and they'll be you know like an indian driver or something and they'll

be like oh i'll put on music for you and they'll put on like country or something and then i was like no let me put on something and i'll go ahead and put on like like i'll listen to hindi heavy metal and i'm like no let me show you something right and this dude's like you fucking listen to this it's like yeah yeah i do um do you guys remember the loud rocks album all right uh i I'm going to bet big Matt, who I'm very sorry. Couldn't make it tonight. We really, he really wanted to be on here to talk to you,

but you know, mostly squat videos, Matt, but he just, he had to bail out the last second as fucking usual. Yeah. I'm going to bet he's going to know this one and maybe Ryan, big Ryan,

don't shake his hand and possibly Big Murph. And if anybody else gets this, eh, the balloons are up. So Loud Rocks came out. It was an MTV collaboration album where they took heavy metal bands and rap bands and put them together. So the two songs that are sticking out right now is Shame on a which was system of a down and the woo yes that was when surge somehow got the n-word pass yeah and everybody was crazy yeah the whole time i heard it i was like i guess he's browner than i thought yeah because i just didn't i just thought he was you watch this move it down you just assume he's mostly a white guy yeah i was

like holy shit dude that's intense it didn't age well it doesn't age well on tiktok right now there was this person that was like is serge tanky and a good person and then they talked about all of the amazing advocacy he's done and then he went but he also said the n-word and i was like in the studio in the studio with wu-tang and they were like hey you can say it listen i'm probably not gonna pull the trigger in any other capacity yeah but if wu-tang says listen we're going to say this and it's going to go public we're going to defend you on this i'm going to be like fine this is for all the times i've listened to this this song in my car so then you've also got incubus teamed up with big pun so you've got the singer from incubus brandon boy doing the i don't want

to be a player no yeah yeah he's doing that chorus and that was incredible like that was about the time the spawn album came out which was like rock bands and techno bands or at least like techno ish bands so you know if anybody out there remembers or has any other good songs off there throw them in the discord because uh i've got it saved on my playlist. Now, is that where DJ Cumberbund got all his inspiration? DJ Cumberbund. Love DJ Cumberbund.

What a good interview he had. Anyway, that's the music talk. I forgot he was on their podcast. We try and do a lot of music talk because, A, i'd listen to a fucking ton of genres and it usually shocks people the acute knowledge i have of so many knowledge there are so many genres genre um but i got a little thing here that says I can generally catch him. About five left.

I got five minutes. About five minutes. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We're an hour and a half, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

I just got a ride picking me up here. Oh, no, no. That makes perfect sense. Yeah. In that case, we will just jump into lightning round. Yeah. Lightning round. Sorry, guys. No, you're. No, no, no, that makes perfect sense. In that case, we will just jump into... Lightning round. Oh, shit. Sorry, guys. No, no, I didn't know else. I definitely would have stopped meandering like a psycho.

No, I just forgot until my dude pulled up, but he's wait, it's my brother. He'll be fine. So just give us their 30-second answers for unpaid. So it's unpaid and underrated. Unpaid is obviously overrated, and no one wants to be unpaid, and underrated is underrated. So unpaid obviously overrated, and no one wants to be unpaid, and underrated is underrated. So unpaid or underrated,

eat the damn sandwich blog. Oof. Don't ever listen to it. So unpaid. Unpaid, unpaid. All right. I prefer to bury that. I'll tell you a little thing.

My mom fucking found all of that. She looked up in the Wayback Machine and hunted it all down and assembled them into a book for me. And I'm telling you guys, if you create things, fucking found all of that she like looked up in the wayback machine and hunted it all down and found assembled them into a book for me and i'm telling you guys if you create things the last thing you want to do is have early stage things that you've created they present to you like it's an achievement it sucks compared to the things you do now and so yeah don't ever this is why i tell tanner i'm like you can delete any of the blogs we did. Get them off there.

So unpaid or underrated conspiracies? Unpaid or underrated? Underrated. Underrated. That's what's up. What's your favorite conspiracy? Favorite? I mean, the moon landing is still the funnest one.

Well, first off, I don't believe the earth is flat. earth in my let's go let's go this route how about this flat earth is my favorite conspiracy because it is the greatest like um it's the perfect example of why conspiracies develop at all like it's culturally flat earth is a great cultural phenomenon because it is about no i don't trust anyone who's giving me any of this information about anything right if you get to the point where you only trust the things you can see out of your eyes as far as you can and you go that anyone who knows math is just doing some weird science sorcery or whatever you know what i'm saying like i think it's such a great people that get very clammed up and like defensive about like flat earthers are out of their fucking mind it's like no they just don't trust anybody and that might make them crazy and a lot of them are

the worst and that's the problem too but so i'll go that that in my opinion is a very fun one because it's like not trusting an institution it's not trusting anything flat earth is a very very fun one it doesn't go very far but i will say the the moon landing ain't nobody ever been to the fucking moon and you get to the point where when you say this that's a fun one because there is a lot of people that you will use the term we know because we and i'm like oh you're a fan boy or you were there and so the moon landing is always a fun one to break out because people get very defensive about it like you're telling them that they didn't graduate high school or something they're taking it personally you and i were as close to getting to the moon as each other so let's just be real

so it's a fun one to poke at i don't get too dogmatic about any of them about what i what i really believe but those ones if you poke at nasa nasa is a pretty heavy heavily marketed in everybody's childhood stuff like in everybody's childhood everyone's very attached to nasa and spacemen and outer space and all this stuff so if you tell somebody this fucking space is fake they'll lose their goddamn mind and they'll just be mad at you whether you're joking or not so those are two pretty funny ones up until we started this podcast keith did not know platypus exists i didn't yeah i just never heard of it. I just never seen these peaks on these. I've never,

never seen a, never seen a picture of one of my entire life. All right. Uh, my, my last one, I know, I know you're in a time crunch,

so if we can just do everything else, like, you know, we'll keep it short, I guess. Uh, uh, my last one will be,

uh, Megan folding your blanket, uh, on, on your side of the bed, unpaid or underrated. It's the goddamn worst. No. What do you mean by that? Like, like the bed spread or just like an extra blanket. Like, I don bed, unpaid or underrated. It's the goddamn worst thing in the world.

Now, what do you mean by that? Like the bedspread or just like an extra blanket? Like I don't get it. They call it, it's like a Scandinavian style of making the bed, right? And this is the thing we did. Now we actually sleep on the hard surface floor, which may be a whole nother thing. But I like the hard surface of the floor with just like a blanket on the floor.

And then I sleep under a blanket, of course. I'd love to be at bed height because I'm enormous, but I like the firmness of the floor with just like a blanket on the floor and then i sleep under a blanket of course i'd love to be at bed height because i'm enormous but i like the firmness of the floor so my perfect bed would be a concrete slab about as high as a bed with my ship but when we were in europe she would then people would like the places you'd stay airbnbs or rental properties there's two comforters one folded on one side of the bed, one folded on the other. So each person gets their own comforter in their bed. And that's fine. But what she does is she'll make this. She just put this on here to get me to rant about this. She folds it meticulously, like smaller than it.

You know what I mean? It then becomes like half of my size in this nice little tight folded thing. And she goes to bed one or two hours before me. So every night I make my way to bed tired falling asleep on the couch stoned and i have to like get on my knees and undo this you know you ever see like you're like paper football the little paper triangles yeah people flick around oh yeah it's borderline that level of like it's locked up so i'm like in on my but just all i want to do is close my eyes go to sleep and just unwind this whole fucking thing it's the worst way to end your day if you

have to start your day that with that level of bullshit you'd be a really grumpy person all right they call that irreconcilable differences i think that's an agree to disagree level. Yeah. All right. I'll go next. Unpaid or underrated ketchup. Ketchup is completely underrated. I get where people are like, it's trash. Like I have a client who will like,

gets mad at his kids for putting ketchup on. I fucking hate ketchup. Yeah, I get it. And I get it. It's like, it's, is there a trashier condiment than ketchup?

Mayonnaise. Yeah. You know, I'll tell you this mayonnaise is it's just in europe though it's not even that it's hip it's just culturally people just put mayonnaise on all sorts of shit so like ranch might be trashier than ketchup ranch is probably trashier than ketchup i use ranch for dipping my veggies in but i don't use it for literally anything else but i use ketchup in a way that's trashier than anyone uses ranch i swear to god if you put steak on i just put it on steak for sure i like not all the steak not all the steak let's be real but i eat so much steak and i like ketchup

more than i like steak i just do you know what i mean like i like ketchup more than i like cheeseburgers and i eat a lot of cheeseburgers it's just always with ketchup i mean guys i've done some shit like i'll still make i'll make like burritos and stuff and when i get tired of the salsa halfway through i'm like i'll spoon a little ketchup on it's i'm not proud of it this is just the reality of it i could lie about it and be like super cool and i'll tell you this i know you don't like ketchup i don't think you're being too hard about it but the people who are anti-ketchup it's like some hipster virtue signaling bullshit a little bit is it it's someup it's like some hipster virtue signaling bullshit a little bit is it it's some like it's like some hot you're like high not you i get high-roaded by people

about my ketchup use a lot it's like i quit anytime i want i just don't want to i just i just don't it's just vinegar vinegar tomatoes and sugar it's nuts and as a person who i've always said if if i consume let's real, probably how many calories you suppose are in like an actual cup, like a size cup of ketchup? What are you going to guess? Probably a couple hundred, right? Yeah, 150, 200. I mean, I'll have that every day, hands down. So if ketchup causes cancer or it's going to turn my frogs gay or whatever, like it's going to, I'm getting it. I'm getting the full dose really consistently. That's a really good use of that phrase. That's a really good use of that.

I'm going to start working that into my life. Yeah. Turning my frogs gay is a lot better. All right. Unpaid or underrated shots of rumple mints. Rumple mints are extremely underrated. Now you have to only buy the shooters. So that's the size. I was told to get one of those. Yeah. Yeah.

So the rumplements, here's the issue. If you buy rumplements, at least in the States, if you get a one liter bottle of rumplements, right? So that's, what would that be?

How many, how many one ounce or whatever? The two ounce, whatever. It's a lot. lot yeah one and a half i think these are so much so it's i think it's two it works out to like 50 it'll be like 50 two ounce uh two ounce things in this so i did all the math like you can buy rumplemint shooters a two ounce shooter for a dollar everywhere it's always a dollar so i can go and I can buy 50 of those for 50 bucks.

Now, am I wrong on this or is it a hundred? Maybe this is bad time for me to be doing rumplements. What I'm saying is this, if you're going to buy rumplements only by the shooters, you do the math on your own. You'll, it'll work. It works out much, much, much better. So yeah, rumplements extremely underrated. It's my favorite. It's a hundred proof. It gets weird gets weird you gotta like only open with the open the night with it you cannot introduce it in the middle or towards the end it gets too weird too fast you gotta keep the hunter proof liquor it's gotta stay far away from anything past the initiation of the night

yeah or you become the liquor like i i get that with rumplemints you don't have to brush your teeth either because it's like super minty so you can take it in the morning before work or whatever you're trying to do and nobody would be the wiser yeah it's killing the germs out with it yeah okay uh last but not least unpaid or underrated chicken mcnuggets they're underrated still like i don't get to mcdonald's much but they still rule i'll tell you guys i was tempted i just didn't have the day to make it work we're not in a place that'll do it i was really tempted to try and put down like 50 plus nuggets today on your like on the on the episode i wanted to do it i was like if i have to talk it's going to be the fattest episode

it's already i'm trying to get my fat breathing away from the microphone, but it's already going to be, that would have already been a problem. And then you would have really, the being cool about my ketchup use would have gone away really quickly. If you see how I would eat 55 McNuggets. Have you ever, have you ever actually done like a shot of ketchup out of the, have you ever squirted ketchup in your mouth from the bottle? Never straight from the bottle. I have taken like the little, you know, the little crinkly paper cups or whatever. I have just done this before. By the way, that's never on purpose because I don't like ketchup just to have on.

It's a thing. Other food is a ketchup delivery device. I wouldn't ever dip my finger in ketchup and just eat the ketchup. That'd be crazy. But I'll dip pizza in it every once in a while. If I'm high. Fries and grilled cheese definitely are my favorite things to put. Yeah.

And eggs is another one too, where I get that that's gross, but like, I'll do it too. What is it about grilled cheese lately with me? I'm just so fucking into grilled cheese lately. I love grilled cheese. Yeah,

me too. Grilled cheese is hella underrated. All right. Well, you passed unpaid and underrated. And I, again, again apologize I didn't know you had a time limit or else I definitely wouldn't have stopped

you're good I just had no idea what time it was that's all good so we'll we can see you out and then Joey and I can probably do a little bit you know we can stay on for a little bit that was my plan too big Tyler you want to tell me where to find oh god I'm gonna isn't that called the Menzies or something we can stay on for a little bit. That was my plan too. Yep. So in sync. Big Tyler, he wants to tell me where to find sync up now.

Oh God. I'm going to, isn't that called the Menzies or something? So where can they find you at? Well, just follow me on Instagram at Tyler F and stone. That's Tyler E F F I N stone. As it's always been,

make sure you guys are obviously following mass synonomics projects that I do have going on right now. I do do still business consulting for gym owners, larger fitness centers, functional fitness gyms. I'd have going on right now, I do do still business consulting for gym owners, larger fitness centers, functional fitness gyms. I do have a podcast for that. If you're not interested in the business side of fitness,

don't fucking listen to it. We're not there to be entertaining. But I do have the Gym Owners Podcast, which has actually really solved my business partner, John. We just have a lot of gyms do kind of like the right thing, right? If you're going to try to help people

with weight loss, you're like, here's how you actually do it instead of being a gym that doesn't give a fuck about the people that come through your doors uh the other project i have is secret if you don't like it don't tell anybody if you listen to it once and you don't like it don't tell anybody else about it just don't listen to any more of it but the conspiracy randy podcast is me and my best friend andy it's the funnest shit

we're probably going to be rebranding soon as long as there isn't anything fun to conspiracy meltdown about this next election. So we keep hanging on to the name because we started Conspiracy Randy during the COVID stuff. So the name Conspiracy was very – Yeah, I listened to the pilot the other day. It was a buzzword. And now I'm like, we've got to hang on until this election is over. And then we might just rename it like the Randy Sessions or something.

Because it really is mostly us just getting barbecued in the garage and talking shit and telling jokes. That's the spirit. My best friend who's the funniest person I know. So that's it. Conspiracy Randy. You can find at Conspiracy Randy on Instagram. But for the most part, I don't do much on there other than episode announcements.

I'm not making content or clips because I don't want to embarrass my family. But it's a fucking fun hang. Again, if you don't like it, just listen. If it's not for you, don't. Just don't try to like it if you don't like it again if you don't like it to just listen if it's not for you don't just don't just don't try to like it if you don't like it you don't like it shut up it's just a riot it's it's a ton of fun it's the most fun i have every week so so check it out all right thanks tyler thanks thanks i'll jump out and we'll tell you i'll just message you guys about that other platform stuff. Yeah, sure. See you in July, buddy. See you in July. Later. All right. So make sure you go follow Big Tyler, everyone.

And yeah, that was interesting. Really stay in true to form here with the stealing the Masonomics format because now guest jumps off and we'll fuck around for a few minutes. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I feel like we had to have done that first. I mean, I know I'm sure they stole everything else from us. Well, I also, I'm very sorry. I didn't know he had a time limit. I wouldn't have gotten so much into rap music.

There were so many things I wanted to cover. I didn't even get to talk about half the shit Megan sent me. Yeah, me neither. But that's all right. I will try to vicariously tell his poop story um for you and anyone listening that hasn't heard it uh no i haven't heard it it's the best one ever i i'm gonna butcher it because it's probably been like five years since i heard it but essentially so they got married you know him and megan um he got shit hammered drunk at the wedding and was

just super sick the next day as they were like driving to either back home or to the destination of the honeymoon, whatever it was. So, you know, just imagine just getting married to your wife, your car's full of wedding presents, you're driving down the road and you just get the bubble guts and there's like nowhere to go. And he basically like, he does such a good job telling the story. It's, it's amazing. But, uh, you know, essentially they pull off in the side of the road in a field, essentially. And he has to go have explosive diarrhea hanging off of a tree in a field. Why his his new bride is just in the car kind of trying not to look at him. And it was I wish I wish he was here to tell the story. But go back and, you know, he's told it multiple times on the podcast.

I don't know. We'll get someone to actually dig through the archive and figure out what episode it actually was but it was probably the best poop story i've ever heard and i you know apologize we didn't get to get to it uh just a little miscommunication with the host and the guests but uh you know you know you guys tune in for us each week not the guests so you know now now now the fun starts we really should have had like a like we need like a tab of like stuff to talk about when we like need to kill time every now and then. Well, you know, like wedding stories is a pretty fun one. I have myself. I don't do weddings anymore.

That's just like the rule I have come to at this point in my life. And I explain to people I've been in over a dozen weddings. I have been everything from ring bearer when I was a small child to now groom at least once. And I've been the best man. I've been an usher. I've been everything. And I just don't want to do it anymore. It's so expensive.

It's so, I made one last, obviously for big Steve, my friend, because like, you know, it was his second wedding. I was in his first wedding and he was like, I really need you there, man. And I was like, absolutely. Like for you, absolutely. But like, I just don't want to do it anymore. Like that when we got married, you know, not a lot of people know this. It was like the third wave of the lockdowns, right? When they the winter i had just got a vasectomy so my daughter was born like december 1st i went and got cut january probably 13th or 14th

but because it was i was on parental leave for my daughter i was like well let's just go get the marriage license and do it and then we did that and they locked us down so i actually didn't get to have a wedding but that was kind of on purpose because i was like oh no now only you can't come and make it about yourself you selfish fucks yeah it's like oh no only a couple people get to show up so like we we legally could only have a certain amount of people so i ended up shoveling all this snow because we ended up getting like three feet of snow into an ice wall around our campfire and we got married in like a secret ceremony with just my parents and kids there

and we didn't tell anybody until like the following summer that we had finally tied the knot because we just didn't want people to like do anything about it and you're by tying the knot you mean your vasectomy right i was snipping the knot that sucked i was gonna say so so it's a big joey unpaid or underrated vasectomy no never again you know what like i don't know if you know this. Hey, here's a fun fact. As a person with blue eyes and red hair, I am a more susceptible to pain and be less susceptible to anesthesia. Oh, so that hurts. Yeah. When the guy was like, you're going to feel a pinch as I freeze the area. I was like, that's OK. And then he's like, OK, I'm going to go. And I was like, no, it's not frozen yet he's like okay trust me it wasn't frozen and i went into pure panic mode because it felt like somebody had taken a golf club to that area so yeah and i here i am like like did you have like uh i i always like oh you're cutting in and out so i'm just gonna keep talking

until you're back yeah you're all frozen on me. There we are. Go ahead. I was just saying, like, anytime I know I'm going to have an intense pain, like, I have to, like, hold something. Like, there's, like, squeeze balls or, like, anything. I have to be able to, like, exert pressure on something. I wasn't supposed to feel anything. But he just didn't listen to me when I said, no, you have to wait a minute.

Even if it was just an anxiety thing, just being able to squeeze the shit out of one of those little stress balls. No, this is all fine until it wasn't. And that was like the worst experience. But you're also not supposed to lift anything for like a week. And then I shoveled all the snow into that ice wall just to make sure that it was what we wanted. It protected us from the wind, made everything a little easier. But yeah, that's my story. Anyway, this all comes from I was thinking about Tanner Tanner's key story from his wedding.

Oh, I love that story. Yeah, that's a great story. That's a really funny trick. So it looks like they're getting I hope they're getting a pretty big turnout for I think they just named it. I can't remember what they named it, but it was the crew fall showdown or something. Or no, the Watertown Showdown, wasn't it? At least they didn't steal my Waterton. That's okay.

I was listening to the podcast. They're like, we don't have a crew name for this. And I was like, Waterton? Because I made that one thing in reference or in passing, I think, with, was it Hannah? Yes. So it's the Crew Lift Hard Live Easy Garage gym throwdown in watertown saturday june 15th uh so anyone if you're listening to this and you live anywhere within a couple hours of that

as someone that was at crew falls and like if it's anything i mean it's not gonna be crew falls but like just hanging with the homies like hanging with the homies is worth a two or three hour drive like easily so go go do that don't disappoint uh you know the uh the build fast team yeah no and you know i remember nate saying like he wants people to come to his gym how do i get them to do that right and then this is a good way like that you've got everybody coming to your gym absolutely yeah that's awesome he's gonna get like content like I want to I want my gym tour on their YouTube like I'm so jealous for him. Good for our own.

I can't I can't imagine why we won't do our own. Yeah, for sure. We'll tour the we'll tour the DILF dungeon. We could because when you do need to start taking advantage of our YouTube. It's just like, oh, look like, oh, yeah, big shout out to Carp. Carp helped put together that that real last week for me, or I guess it was. Well, yeah, it would be last week when you're listening to this of Tanner shouting out the barbell rescue brush code unpaid, et cetera. And, you know, he clipped it.

And even, like, you know, he played it for, like, 20 seconds and then, like, did some screenshot or some pictures that he took in his garage of, like, the things Tanner was talking about. So really appreciate that, Big Carp. And Big Tanner. Yeah, Big Tanner. Yeah, we definitely stole. Hope you weren't, you know, Tanner wasn't going to shout out barbell rescue. was talking about so really appreciate that big carp um and i wish yeah yeah big tanner yeah we definitely stole hope you weren't gonna you know tanner wasn't gonna shout out barbell rescue on on on reels on instagram because he doesn't thankfully thankfully he doesn't have a like they could like wipe us out if they were just like can we get an affiliate code with these like three companies and then like just just completely annihilate our our ability to buy a boat someday

but no actually i remember listening to it and he was like oh and i use code unpaid like he just said it like like oh yeah i see what you mean yeah i know they're they're the guys are great about you know still need to get tommy to buy one you know uh talking about a big home gym guy now big home he is he is he's it's kind of cool seeing his stories like you know laughter not seeing tommy lift like on instagram for literally years i feel like it's kind of great to see him like posting stories working out in the gym and the other day when he posted it was like you know 70 80 humidity and like 90 degrees and i was like well that sucks and then i had to go out in the garage the next day and it

was about that i was like this does fucking suck yeah i i don't sweat a lot, but I was in even even the gym here was hot as fuck. But that one. So when I did my log press was a Tuesday when it was like 90 outside. Like, I always just thought I didn't sweat much because I don't like my basements like fucking 70 degrees max pretty much. So, like, I just don't sweat a ton when I work out. Being outside on that log, like I was dying. Like my entire shirt was soaking wet like i was sweat was just like like dripping off my like i was i had a stall mat

puddle of sweat i've just i've just haven't experienced that because i haven't worked out in like a hot setting in so long so it was kind of cool i'm kind of digging the garage but i ain't gonna do it if it's my it was fucking like if it was 10 degrees warmer i'd be like nah i'm gonna die yeah i mean put a fan out there sometimes you know you want to burn a few extra calories by doing it in the heat it's not the it's not the blirst of times yeah hey big ups to me i didn't go to the bathroom once i know yeah i thought i was gonna be dying after getting as sick as shit on tuesday of this week that was funny because like i thought tyler was trying to signal that he had to go to the bathroom. Me too.

I thought he was saying, I have to go shit because I'm going to be five minutes. And then it was just like, no, I got to go. I was like, oh, okay. Unpaid or underrated lightning round. But it's all good. That was a pretty cool get. We like kind of sprinkling in the non- everyday crew

just because it's still Mathnomics adjacent. So I think the i think the people enjoy it so we got some big names coming we got some names that that people aren't expecting and we're not really announcing but there's some stuff coming as long as people's schedules work out right absolutely um i'm still hitting that obsidian man that stuff that carp got me it's not even like the high test and it's still just the fact that it's just new it like it gets me bad like and it's been good like real it's been good like story content because like i'm not even like i'm not even playing it up i'm not like extra sniffing like i was just like because i have two bottles now i'm not paying

attention to which one it is and one's like 30 and one's at like 99 and when i think and i when i hit the harder one it's like oh fuck me for the obsidian ammonia fans uh he has the ultra yeah which is like nothing right no god no none of it's nothing but the problem is when you're stupid like me right like the nose bleach is where I want to land but also I'm stupid and it hurts so much and I don't care and I don't stop myself so um yeah that's that's actually one of the things i wanted to talk about is as you were like this stuff sucks and i was like oh he's got some strong shit and i walked over and it was the mk ultra and i was like oh i'm not even gonna use it and now i should have brought some ampules but i'm very new to this one uh yeah don't don't don't

don't waste your last few on me because i would have fucking, I would have just probably puked in your face. So interestingly, the ampules, and I've talked about them before, they're not as strong as some of his other stuff. Okay. But they hit in a different way. So they're not as overwhelmingly ammonia as the Ultra or the Dim Mac or the nose bleach. as the Ultra or the Dim Mac or the nose bleach, but they just hit so perfectly that it's like, I don't hate doing it, but it still has the same effect. Whereas the nose bleach, if you breathe the nose bleach in wrong,

it traps itself in your nostrils. So you'll breathe it in, okay? And then you'll take the bottle away, and then you'll take another breath, and it's still there. And that second breath is what fucking kills you. It'd kill my lift. That would just destroy my ability to get a heavy lift. I've actually watched people at meets where I bring some of the high-powered shit, and they'll come back and they'll look at me and one eye is shut and bleeding.

And they're like, I got the lift, though. Oh, nice. Yeah, no, i don't think i could perform under that kind of like that kind of distraction i guess um big jen got her new banner this week from plate snacks so thanks for her ordering that she was very nervous she reached out she reached out to me yeah yeah she got it so because she dma that she ordered it and she was kind of like the guy fulfilled the order within like 12 hours i'm really really nervous that he didn't like make the right thing and i'm like honey

that's like we've literally ordered like they're like the 12th one so like that guy's got my shit on file he's made about a thousand stickers for us and like at least a dozen banners so he's got all you have to just do is say unpaid and underrated and pick your size and he'll hook you up i really wish he could like as a consignment basically because like he had initially talked about like i would be so much nicer actually like just put it on the website and we can get more than the fucking 20 you know the the the small percentage that we do get out of it if it was just like all right since they're literally only coming to your website to buy our banner like just fucking give me an extra five bucks or something man like you're not gonna sell that without us so but i'm not gonna fucking harp on him too hard about it it's just something he mentioned in passing but i didn't really follow

up with him about it so i don't know and that might even be something that goes to the the higher-ups the suits as i'm calling them um sisters figure it out yeah and yeah and it's so cool that people are doing that for us like you know you've got one in your gym i don't have one again i don't have room for banners. I'm not paying more money for any more banners. I feel that. And shit's so expensive, too. Banners, a flag's like $30 max.

You get a banner, it's like, oh, it's going to be like $80. It all depends. Wherever you go, there are slightly more than flags. I can't even say it. I can type it. I don't... But the guy that says gin and milk, you should be able even say it. I can type it. I don't... Fleeg. When the guy says Jyn and Alc, you should be able to say Fleeg. You would think, but...

One would think. Oh, that's awesome, Jyn. Thanks for getting that. That's pretty dope. Like I mentioned earlier, Dilf Dungeon stickers are probably on their way. I have some weird insight. So the Jackalope who will be at the lift hard live easy you might want to give him a follow um he thought the delft dungeon name was really funny

and i still think it's the funniest gym name i've ever heard but yeah once those stickers are out i might ship you some so you can send them out to uh to jeff or i'll just send them directly to jeff yeah just send them well i mean yeah unless you can hand them off to me at a meetup or something just hand yeah i don't know what it would cost to get to canada but you know i think i had and i had i sent him such a fat sticker envelope that i like had to like we didn't know how much how many stamps to put on it so we just put like multiple like that makes it buddy i should just i'm gonna i don't know yeah i'm trying to just give him everything i have left uh whenever i see him in july at some point it's just gonna be bill to me

mail to jeff bill to tanner yeah bill let me shit fuck that yeah bill to tanner yeah um tanner tanners uh which has been so nice like i know we still talk about our affiliates and shit but like i felt like there was like a couple months there when we were just like forcing them down people's throats and i was just like all right let's i don't want to do this like stock read every week anymore and like tanner okay cool you'll pay for them sweet no worries appreciate your brother we'll bring a better podcast to you now is there any better supporter than mass politics absolutely i mean not to mention we still have our plate snacks we still have yep home gym con we still have i'm seeing pneumonia i do have home gym con jake had

jake jake messaged me the other day he's like i think i owe you like 50 bucks for like like the seven tickets that we sold with your name on it and i was like i just let it roll into next year that's fine like i like you know i might not even been that much whatever it was i was just like i'm not worried about it just like i'll get it from you whenever you know whatever's convenient or we're gonna just roll it into next year uh they've already got the date booked for next year um for home gym con 2025 maybe the last weekend of june um they're literally already at like 62 vendors signed up so there was only there was literally um so year one there was like 30 vendors one, there was like 30 vendors, maybe 40. No, it was like 30 vendors. The year we just had, so year two, I think like at its peak, there was like almost 90 signed up, but about 85 said to 80 to 85.

Call it 80 were actually there because a lot of people just dropped out kind of last minute with just life. And they're already at 62 with like, you know, the majority of re-ups and then like some of the bigger ones are still there there's only a couple like of the larger companies that were there last year uh that haven't signed up yet but it's fucking like how many businesses commit that far out yeah when like they don't even know if they have any kind of return on investment already from like what they just did a month ago so would you say that it's growing exponentially it is it does seem to be and it'll be in louisville this year. So anyone that kind of looked at flights last year and were like, well, I don't want to fly to Indianapolis or Louisville and then drive an hour and a half to fucking French Lick.

You don't have that issue anymore. Just get to Louisville and it's going to be right there. And make sure you show up. Otherwise, Keith is going to lambaste you on social media and bully you into showing up again. And then I'll shake and then I'll shake your hand and get pictures with you though because then we'll bury that old hatchet that was good i i'm trying to just i've i know we always say like i'm so fucking busy i don't have time to have made up fucking aggression with people anymore like i just really because it seems like your favorite thing well i still like well let's put it this way like if i if i call someone out or roast someone now

it's either you ever caught me on a moment where i'm just ready to like because i also use that as like therapy to vent because i'm just being pissy about something and i'd rather yell at someone else than go home and fucking get in a fight with my wife so uh that's just easier but i still feel that i've definitely reeled that in a lot um absolutely i'm still gonna talk about it though yeah no but i also like i don't know i like to keep people honest i don't want everyone's everything i go to people shit about it's just like well you lied to us you're a lying piece of shit and i'm gonna tell people that you're a liar and then until you remedy it gotta turn that rage into disappointment mellow it out a bit man

and that's where we're at we talked about this like episode like three where it was just like i can yell at the guy in front of me for changing lanes and cutting me off and be mad about it or i could just go why are you so dumb and just turn it into disappointment and then i feel a little better afterwards i'm gonna try that but i'd be i'm always i'm disappointed and so many people disappoint me. My God. I'm disappointed. Okay, hold on. I didn't bring this up last week, and I really wanted to. What you got? I actually said to Morgan, I didn't talk about this, and anybody that's still listening, I congratulate you.

We're still under our normal mark. Getting to your house sucks. house sucks so we ended up missing the turn into the hotel because the way that the hotel is set up there's one entrance and it's off a fucking six lane highway yeah okay i missed that twice and the only way to get back was to get back on the freeway and go to another exit yeah so that that added a half hour and i was just like all the shit i've ever given keith for being mad about driving in his city where i've never driven here i get it this city sucks it is so poorly laid out yeah logistically it's bad yeah and then like getting to the restaurant after your place to try and feed my kids.

A, they wouldn't let us in the first one. We had to go to the second one. And it's all one-way streets. How do I get back to the fucking restaurant? Yeah, I remember you saying the distiller was just too busy. They were like, it's a 30-minute wait. I was like, my kid's not. He's already half asleep in the backseat.

But he needs to eat before he goes to bed or he'll wake up in the middle of the night in a hotel with no food so yeah i just wanted to point that out like i actually see your rage at driving in that city because that city is not laid out for driving that city is laid out to create the most anger and resentment towards other cars and like every lane has its own light what the fuck is that about like there's a lot of lights yeah you can't you have to be like is this my light or is this my neighbor's light and i know and that's insane like two turning lanes one straight lane and one turning lane and there's four lights and they're all different yeah and you're like why is that one red can i go like why is the his is green? Mine is yellow. Like, what do I?

Yeah. So I got to say, I finally see it your way in that sense that like that. It's absolutely a nightmare to drive in that city. It doesn't help. I'm like, there's three. Like, so within one mile of my house, there's a massive hospital, a medium sized hospital, a massive massive college, and a semi-large community college. Oh, yeah, and those colleges are what fucked my entire hotel.

Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, because of graduation, so... I almost didn't get a hotel. Like, I almost canceled the trip. And you probably, like, over... Yeah, I feel bad. Like, I just... I don't think about that half the time.

Well, I've never had anyone, like, actually come stay in a hotel to train. I've had people that drive, like, an hour or two, but not three hours and then sleep If the kids weren't there, I would have just driven home but yeah no i got you it ended up taking three hours too even though like the gps was two but it took you about three yeah well you gotta stop change diapers do you three hours three hours is a commitment that's a fucking haul for sure it was totally worth it awesome i had a good time i was a blast a blast. I think I enjoyed just the last half hour and playing with the log when we were just shooting the shit

and then drinking a beer and shooting the shit some more. Yeah, we didn't really talk about like kind of in depth because, you know, we had guests and stuff, but the lifting was lifting. Like that was fun,

you know, pulling the 405 when I really shouldn't have. But yeah, when we finally were like, when Morgan was like, the kid's got to go, you need to wrap this up and i said well can we go out and play with the log first and then everybody was out there the kids were out there my wife was out there your wife was out there chris was there

um joe joe thank you he was there like everybody was there and we were just like just taking turns lifting the log but it wasn't training it was like bet i can lift that i think you can literally just yeah that was your first that was your first was that your first log lift at all or have you ever no scans had shown me how to lift logs last year at the lift hard okay so that's actually why i like i kind of was like i kind of know what i'm doing but i've never i've only done it once and it was 10 months ago yeah yeah so that was really the best part and then i like bust out the keiths you guys got to have a keiths with me that was good i think we're uh we're 58 days out i believe that might have been yesterday we're 50-ish

days out from the time of recording uh so how's your training going i see 65 days according to my program that cannot be right at all there's no way you might want saturday july 20th 65 days out according to juggernaut well maybe from like day one above your week is that is that like is that like off today or is that like off of like when your week started like five days ago uh hold on standby there's no way that july 20th is i i literally put unless i completely juggernauts full of lies yeah and also thinks i'm gonna do an entire meet this weekend well there will be 57 days yeah whatever we go from the beginning of the week probably yeah

because yeah apparently i'm testing my rp10 squat and bench on saturday all we did just all we all literally all we did was just prove how you were not big calendar guy. Definitely not big calendar guy. Definitely not big calendar guy. Anyone that pays attention

to the Discord saw this week. Yes, and Morgan will tell you the same thing. But anyway, you want to wrap this one up? Yeah. Where are they going

to find you at, buddy? Same place they always find me at, joey__malesko, M-L-E-c-z-k-o i do not have a instagram for my gym because it's literally a basement gym that's all i still think it has the best gym name i've ever heard of you might be able to to start so like you know how like you can actually tag yourself in my gym as like a location i'm curious if

it's been like literally like eight years since i had to do that but like you can eventually like create a location and then be able to tag yourself in it. So then you can just like even if people will know where I live. Yeah, but you could do it. You could do it like a mile away or something. But just to be able to like just to be able to see like DILF Dungeon as the fucking location would be hysterical. Even if you were to like buy a Google fucking address to do it, like that'd be great. And that was part of the thing, actually. asked morgan to to make my logo right because she's a fucking artist like she does digital designs all the time and she goes well i'm worried about disappointing

you and i said like i'm sorry the last design i had you make me is literally on t-shirts and banners across north america what makes you think you're gonna disappoint me so i just want to thank everybody for sharing that and using that that was that's fucking huge and you know every time i try and send it to her to be like some encouragement that like no like you did really good and you could do it again um but beyond that uh you can find me at my orange gym at no wine cellar and where are we going to find you? KeithHenryCat73, go follow my orange gym The No Wine Cellar

go check out our Instagram Unpaid and Underrated Podcast website, unpaidinternpodcast.com where Nate does all the dirty work YouTube, we've got Orange Glaze Search I always butcher what the glaze is and then I think we'll go ahead and see you next Tuesday