Unpaid And Underrated - 061 : Indiana-Apple-Less

Episode Date: July 9, 2024

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🎵 Alright everybody, welcome to episode 1776 of the Unpaid and Underrated Podcast. The episode by AI, for AI, and relentlessly mocked by AI. Hey, do you guys have a lot of AI in your life? Do you want some more AI in your life? Why don't you download every fucking update coming? Anyway, I had to update Zoom before this program and it just like, they were like, oh, check out our new AI companion.

Meta's got AI and Instagram's AI and everything's AI. I'm just, I'm over it. I'm over this AI world we live in. It literally is just a Google search. And then it just collaborates all the Google stuff and then spits it out and we're all like, yay, genius!

Anyway, speaking of AI, you guys heard that new song about Unpaid and Underrated? That's great. I mean, some have been saying it is the song of the summer. I mean, that song might just be Big Keith, me, but, you know, I don't know. Tanner's out there talking about this other song

that I'm not really familiar with, but the Unpaid and Underrated Country Western song. Oh, Outlaw Country. I can speak as a connoisseur of country music. Fire. They are both good songs, but I really there's something about ours just fucking hits.

We got us a connoisseur-y over here. Speaking of that, who are you guys joining me on the podcast? I'm Big Joey. I forgot to say that, but if you don't know my voice by now, welcome to your first episode. It's not going to go well for you. This is your co-host, Big Keith. And we're joined this week by Big Matt Sundling.

Sundling? Yes, Sundling. Sundling. Yes. There we go. What did you say? Sundling. Sundling? Yes. Sundling. Sundling. Yes. There we go. What did you say? Sundling? Sundling.

You're going to mess me up. Like, I never pronounce it on anything until somebody starts saying it. I just said it's Sundling. Like, you just, the D is. It's like half silent. It's like, it's real silent. I'll start with the first dick joke. I am exhausted and I get the feeling I'm doing a 13 hour shift tomorrow.

So if I seem out of it, it's been a long couple of days. My little girl broke her arm on Saturday and then it's just been a fucking whirlwind of a lifetime since then. Trying to maneuver a two year old with one arm. Yeah, it's gotta be unpleasant. Is it in a cast or a soft cast? It's in a cast for now, temporary. Then we gotta go to the Fractured Planet to get them a long-term one put on, but she's adapting.

It just sucks knowing that it was the smallest of... This little girl, I have watched her take a head-first dive off a trampoline and be fine. Apparently, she fell like a foot and just happened to land the wrong way and get a superchondral fracture on her humerus of her left arm oh that's always fun yeah apparently it's the most common thing in kids because

whenever it's actually in all people because when you fall you put your hands out the pressure then just pushes all the way up and breaks your humors it happens i guess all the time but either way it sucks but falling like a foot as a like two foot tall person is like pretty far because like it's like us falling like two and a half three feet and according to my ladder safety that i just took get four feet and you can die so yeah oh jeez. One foot and you can break your arm. What are you guys drinking? I'm

starting with some water and I put some frozen fruit in it for some flavor and some ice. I have something specifically for Keith because he is uncultured and it is, you can see it, ranch water. Ranch water, yeah buddy. People were talking about that. you can see it ranch water okay yeah we're talking about that what

the fuck is ranch water though it is uh traditionally ranch water is like a seltzer um like uh what's the one that tanner was just drinking um i can't think of the name the yellow wrapper in the fancy glass um it's that and tequila and then normally you'll take like a hint of like mango juice or something okay i might have to try a ranch water this uh this summer it's really good though really good how could i get that up here and you can't get it i've just never heard of it it's it's it's more like it's more you're like hick vibe seltzer so it so the ranch based on, it's like talking about, like, a farm ranch, not, like, a ranch. Yeah, so, like, this company that I'm drinking is Lone River Ranch down in Texas.

Makes sense. So John Dutton would drink when he whispers real low and Dutton is John Dutton's voice. Actually, Ryan Bingham, who's an actor on there, the guy that plays, like, what's his name? The cowboy that doesn't want to do shit. Oh, yeah. Yes, Ryan Bingham is one of my favorite country singers, but I can't think of his character. That's going to bug me.

I'm really just going to yell it out later in the episode. Yeah. What about him? He owns part of this company. I think it's this one. That's so funny i had no clue and i just pulled that reference out of my ass great news yeah i i if i'd said nothing you guys would have thought i knew i was you guys would have been like wow that's a smart dude

except no shit canada something like that uh i'm drunk i'm rocking out a wegmans lime this week so didn't get to the grocery store and got something a little different and? water? is it okay? it's up there with bubbly and it's just like a weird

you know sprightly kind of taste but I like it I like it a lot alright I'm going to start the what are youaring program by saying don't worry about it. I just put on whatever was big and comfortable. And it's just a buck. It's from Bucked Up. It's got the American flag on it.

It's just like that $20. You should be the one wearing ranch water. You know, you're wearing a buck on your damn chest. Yeah. I'm rocking out my high school alumni. It's a football charity shirt that I bought to support my

high school football team that I went to. They were like a Facebook group. They were like, hey, buy this shirt. All the proceeds go towards the freshman football team. I was like, yeah, I could definitely go for a Morgantown Mohegan t-shirt. I haven't had one of those in 20 years. I got the new lifting

department shirt. I'm going to screen it a little bit. Nice. Very nice. And then I got the beanie as well, but this is exclusive. We don't have this anymore. I still have my orange glaze one. Yeah, I had to wash it a lot.

That shirt looks pretty big on you what is it about a medium feels like it they did say that uh you shouldn't possibly size down but you know if you don't he's definitely gonna be swimming in it so when i was at the uh throw down in watertown tanner was wearing it and i told him i was like i want that shirt and he said well you're probably gonna have to buy a 3x because we're not making a 4x this time around i was like okay i got a medium i should have got like i wanted a comfortable fit but not underly underly overly comfortable so i did up yeah not doing the large it's more just long it's not necessarily like wide feels like i need the other shirts just a little heavier oh good so when i wear my little shorts

it'll look like i'm wearing nothing at all. So I had the skivvies on earlier, and Lori told me to take them off, so... I know. I wasn't allowed to wear those. Oh, that's frozen. No, there's two reasons, but that was one of them. Atta boy. It's not Saturday.

No, it feels like it. It feels... it's a day off for us americans so i think i was i don't think i've ever recorded on a day i've had off like i really would have to think back like i don't think i've recorded ever on a day i've had not didn't go to work that's if i did it was like one or two do you have to go to work tomorrow too? I'm eating the day. They tried to shut our office down and my coworkers were like, well, fuck you. You can't do that to us. And then they were like, well, okay, whatever. You can either use PTO, you can take it unpaid, or you can come in. So I'm taking it

unpaid. Nice. The only time unpaid works. I like to save my PTO. People look at me like I'm crazy. And I was able to take unpaid time there for like five years without anyone saying anything. And I would just use it for like sick time because I don't feel like I get enough vacation in general. And then they like recently were like, yeah, you can't do that anymore. And then I was like, is that actually from HR or are you just trying to bully me?

But I just kind of let it go. And then once they mentioned for this specific day, yeah, you can do it unpaid. I was like, fuck yeah, I will. So I don't really care about that extra like, you know, 120 bucks I'm missing out on or whatever. I'm like getting a day off that I don't have to use PTO for. It's clutch. Now that I have friends,

I have to go fucking travel to see. Yup. You assholes. How did, did anybody pick up? Well, I know I did and Keith did. Keith, you said you had some insight. It looks like our shirt's moving pretty well. Yeah, I think there was at least

40 or 50 of them sold, probably, give or take. Not bad. I tried, but no 4X. That went quick. I think they might have skimped on them, but it's hard to say. They're going to order

10 of them and then sit on 6 of them if they only sell 3, so it's kind of tough they'll probably whatever's left over we can help clear out at the uh at the little holly lazy yeah i'm hoping anyone that didn't pick one up on the drop or just kind of you know crew that are going to be in uh you know lift hard and we'll just they'll walk the walk home with one because i would like to see at least the majority of our past guests have one. You know, we'll see once the people start posting on Instagram in the next couple of days to who actually bought one. Just make sure you up the price when it's there.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Sixty. Sixty. Sixty nine. Sixty nine. Well, sixty. Sixty nine.

And we sign it. Yeah. I mean, I mean, you're getting some of my head. So I think that's worth $60,000. Funny enough, on my belt, I actually have the sticker because I got it early. So every time I squat, you're with me. Nice. That's very nice.

I put mine at the bottom of my chalkboard in the garage. And I'm just like, I'm waiting for someone to actually get to the bottom of it. And just be like, what the fuck? Why is the fuck is your sticker on your head looking up at me? I'm really waiting for that time to happen. It's going to be great. It's like when I showed up to your house with the Keith pillow, it scared the shit out of your body constantly. Yeah.

I had it hanging out of my bag and the one dude was just like, he was so upset about it. It was hilarious. I actually have one here on my Mac book and one behind me at all times. Very nice. I think I got like three or four more in with my... I bought an extra shirt for me just to

hang up in the closet and don't wear it for five years until the other ones worn out. And then I got Stephanie one. And yeah, I came with another two or three stickers. I was like, oh my god, have we got to strategically do something with these? We're going to place them all over western, northeast, south Dakota is what we're going to do.

I am going to unpay and underrated the fuck out of every restaurant we go to. Specifically Pounders first, but then like everywhere. They'll never find out who did it. Good stuff. Do you want to rate last week's episode? If I could fucking remember what that one was. Austin Perkins,

basically the best 165 pound power lifter currently if not all time yeah no best best power lifter ever you're putting him you're taking you're saying he is better than oh no actually i'll take it back because i uh i can't say that i'm a big west side guy so um i'd say he's best best raw on or tested yeah he's best raw tested. Yeah, he's definitely right up there. I mean, he literally has the best. I think he said he had everything except Wilks.

If you went through all the algorithms, and I'm pretty sure he out-totals at least the next weight class uppers right there, too. That's when you know you're fucking the man. fucking the man is when, what was it? Was it when John hack at one point had like the one 81, the one 98 and the two 20. And then he was out totaling like guys in two 42 with his like one 98 total two. So to be able to span that many like weight classes and beat like two or three weight classes above you was pretty impressive.

But yeah, Austin Perkins, it was good. He, you know, I learned about rant. Well, I, I got ranch water into my ear and then I learned about it tonight. So that was good. Just all in all, you you know it's always good hearing the boys talk so i will go ahead and give it uh five out of five hundred sixty five pound lifters all right um i have not listened to it yet because i have not had any time to myself uh in the past couple of days after the holiday and the trip to the hospital with Saga and everything like that.

So I think I got through the intro right to when Tommy said, nope, I already kicked everybody out. And that was like the most I got. So five, five out of five. Mathnomics iPod touches. I have to agree with you there, but I'm going to give it five out of five JD Powers. Throwback. Yeah. Yeahback at least Austin Perkins I know of him

he's the same weight class as me but deadlifts my total I'm pretty sure he went to Midland University which is right up the street from me he's young too he's only been out for two years i think six 25 something yeah very young all right so i got a question here because i was cutting up a shirt the other day and trying hard to get the karen cut or the

huck finn cut whichever one you call it i call it karen because she was doing them at the arnold so i call it karen cut so i gotta know because like I love my stringers I'm not a muscular guy but those stringers they just hang well they fit well show off your trap show off your shoulders hide your gut a bit like they the ones I have fit pretty good but they're from that company we're really not supposed to talk about um I think I only have two of them I have a couple from the rock too but he does he does them really weird where they're just like really skinny but they don't hang off the shoulders very well uh so i gotta know like do you guys like your your muscle shirts pre-bought do you prefer

to cut them do you even like stringers or do you like sleeves more and sleeves is the wrong answer oh well yeah i will i will like when you're when you carry as much body fat you don't i mean occasionally i'll wear like some muscle shirt with just the sleeves cut off flush but i'm not wearing a tank top but like i don't have the body to like show off my like upper fat titty i don't you guys don't need to see that anytime i put a tank top on it just looks weird i'm not i'm like almost pear-shaped, so it goes out at the bottom, and it just doesn't look right. I'm built different. It's not tank top.

It's good. Now, if you give me a good jersey, I can wear a good jersey, but that's what I used to do. Oh, yeah. We'll get into that. Do we prefer larger shirts, or do we prefer form-fitting shirts? Because I'm getting into the larger shirt thing. You know, I think I've said it on here before when you're,

when you're big, you can't hide it. And for a guy that's five foot four, I'm not exactly small width wise. And it's starting to get to the point now I can no longer really hide it. So I've been trying to buy shirts a little bigger, but there's just something right about, you got a good pump and you're out in the world and just like your shoulders

and your traps. And I'm not a bodybuilder by any means, but I'm starting to get those shoulders that when you that when I flex, it looks like there's a person coming out of me. You guys know that joke? I'm really proud of that. So I don't mind showing off these sleeves. So listeners, let me know what you think. I might be able to launch. I definitely am out to lunch most days.

I can't wait for the Davids to tell me I'm wrong, even when agree with me oh one follow-up to the uh last week's episode they had mentioned that jessica butener does she live in america now is that something i missed as a did she she's trying to get to okay okay no um so she wants to move to indianopolis um where indianopolis Indianapolis. Where? Indianapolis. Indiana. Stop it. Indianapolis. But did I say Indianapolis? Say it like the state. Okay. Yeah.

No, I did that wrong for sure. Yeah. Indianapolis. Indianapolis. Yeah, there you go. All the views from Indianapolis gone.

Yeah. Indiana Apples. So, yeah. So she wants to move from Saskatoon down to Indian Apples. So yeah, so she wants to move from Saskatoon down to Indian Apples. And I don't know why, but

I mean, I'm glad I don't live in Saskatchewan. America. Fucking boring. That's why I'm from Saskatchewan. But I guess that's her goal there. She's trying to get her work visa stuff there. So yeah. No, she's definitely, she'll be dual citizens visa stuff there so yeah no she's definitely she'll be dual citizens she'll be ours forever though she can't hide from us uh i did a little rearranging

out in the garage today freaking that i hate stalemats i hate moving stalemats moving moving more didn't even hard cutting them's not even hard it was just getting them to line up because i had a couple that were like three years old that big ed gave me or that I bought up. Big Eddie picked up for me, you know, and really went out of his way. It was super fucking clutch and awesome. And I think he brought me like four or five a few years ago and I only used like half of them. So I had two just sit in the garage for years. So I had some like old stock essentially, you know, so I had some different blanks from the ones that I just picked up last week. So the new blanks and the old blanks there were about a half inch difference in length so when you're trying to lay stall mats you really don't want to fucking have a huge half inch three

quarter inch difference i just look like shit so then i had to like rearrange everything a couple times to get it to where the the bad seam was farther back in the garage and i was able to kind of hide it but yeah that was tedious. And it was 90 degrees with like 70% humidity. It's fucking hot, man. Yeah. I can't even pretend. I can't even joke about it. Like it's so hot today.

I was laying on the couch and I was just like, I need to go have a cold shower. This is the, and our air conditioning's on and everything. But I hate this heat. But no, I do enjoy, I think Carp said on one of my posts that if Trolling Keith was an art form, I would be Picasso. You're like these stall bats fucking suck. And I was like, you moved them like four feet. Stop whining.

That's so funny. I was trying to explain it to my wife. She was essentially like, hey, just see it on her face. Why did this take you four hours or two hours? It was like two and a half hours from start to finish, basically. But I did a ton of other shit when i was out there and like i had to move everything like twice essentially because i had to do one side move everything the other side like oh moving off this actually harkens back to something i think tanner maybe

said this once when he was getting like strength coat plates delivered or something and like brought one on the podcast and it was just like a 45 pound plate in a box and he was like carrying a plate outside of the gym is the most like awkward thing in the world try fucking moving like a 45 pound plate in a box. And he was like, carry carrying a plate outside of the gym is the most like awkward thing in the world. Try fucking moving like a 230 pound sandbag when you're not actually trying to lift it. No, it's just like,

it's fucking miserable. I'm just sitting there like rolling it with like, I'm using like all my body weight just to try to roll it. And I had to move it like fucking three times, depending on what I was doing with the flooring. It was so fucking taxing where mine are in the gym. It it's kind of like super inconvenient that if they're even two to three inches off of where they're supposed to be,

they're just in the way of everything. And you're just like, like, can I sit on my butt and push with my legs and just move this? So I don't have to pick it up. Oh, I can't say I can really, I don't,

I don't have to move bags. Not really a big home gym guy yet. You'll get there. Yeah. No, but I, I did have to move a stall mats for a remodel at my gym. That really a big home gym guy yet. You'll get there. No, but I did have to move stall mats for a remodel at my gym.

That was a pain, but it was more than four feet and it didn't take me two hours. So funny, funny bastards. Speaking of that, speaking of high energy shit, so fully addicted to these

Zins and Zonics and nicotine pouches. It took like a week until i was just like fully like addicted so um i'm trying to trying to no it's not because i'm not easily addicted to anything like i can have a cigar and not have one for two weeks or i can have two a day for a week and like there's no i'm addicted to this same with anything else i've ever ingested but these and then they stopped working so then they're just sitting there and i'm addicted to this same with anything else i've ever ingested but these and then they stopped working so then they're just sitting there and i'm just like using them for fun now because they taste good so i got these shipped up from actually are funny enough indian apples yes yes yes funny

enough that's where these came from so they're coffee pouches. So this has 25 milligrams of caffeine in it. And I was like, oh cool. They're like $6 a can or you get 11 cans for $44 or something. I was like, yeah, fucking hook me up with this mixed pack. My goal was to limit the amount of Zin. Replace one or two Zins a

day with the coffee pouches. But these coffee pouches just straight up tastes like coffee, man. Like there's no, there's no like delicious minty. There's like a mint coffee flavor to it. So I use those throughout the day and I do the, the 50 minute ones.

And I do the, I do the fireball one and i just had that one today and it was the one that tastes like i don't think this is the one for me and i love fireball i think it kind of tastes like fireball it tastes like that knockoff one that's not like the actual whiskey it's like the wine made one but but with coffee yeah a little bit little hint if you buy it if you like nick that pack at all which is very thin then yeah you're gonna get that coffee taste oh yeah i think i'm just putting them up in a dry gums because they're just i have one in right now and actually this mint one is very nice um but uh yeah so we'll give those a try too because i gotta get off the i gotta get off those ends like they're just that's

too much nicotine i can limit my caffeine through my energy drinks and coffee and add these in but i gotta get off those things now my only concern is that he's going to yellow my teeth no your concern should be halfway through the day after taking those and drinking your energy drinks you're gonna you're gonna feel it you get that like that overdose feeling of caffeine pretty quick yeah no i definitely my normal caffeine intake is a coffee in the morning. And then between one and three have 140 to 200 milligrams of caffeine. So I'm just going to limit that to the one 40 now, not to the two hundreds anymore. And then add one of these or two of these later in the day.

My caffeine tolerance is a fucking nightmare right now. Like doing this right now, 25 milligrams is probably nothing for me, but I just don't, as long as it doesn't yellow my teeth and make everything crazy we'll stick to them to try and wean myself off the sins so that's that update

yeah stop doing addictive shit Joey that's all I can say I can't allow myself to have that kind of stuff I'll never quit Lou has kind of been a bad influence on me I use it for my lifting now I will take if I go for a big lift I will take either my uh i have a citrus one and they're just three megs i take the citrus or the coffee and right before a big hit the zins yeah yeah i'd

end up having to do a six i threw out the sixes actually because i was doing the four milligrams and they're fine but the sixes like was too big of a jump. I'd be like, so the first, the first time I ever did one was my like technical senior year of college. And I passed out on the floor. Like I literally popped it in and just went sleeping, slept in the doorway. Yeah. I can see that. Did you have six senior years?

Like big Tron did that 16. No. Oh, did you have six senior years like Bigotron did? Did I have 16? No. Oh, did you have six senior years? Oh, yeah. I mean, pretty much. Yeah. Almost. Nice.

Pretty damn close. Well, that's about all for the gen. I mean, I've got a lot of shit I could ask you guys and talk about. Hey, Jefferson Deadlift Day, right? Because that's what everybody was doing um when did that pose start so i saw big grant and big d doing it we're at the top of your jefferson deadlift you look up i don't think i've ever done that i don't i think i think it may have started i've never done it it may have started back back in the great year of 1776. I don't know.

As Jefferson deadlifted across the river? Yes. Yeah. That was the River Thames, right? Yeah. No, that's... I don't. I'm just saying yes. What? That's fucking over there.

It's the Delaware River. That's over in Davidville. I know. He's still a legion to the crown who David? no you me? yeah technically oh yeah British yeah until you see the Scottish flag fly up

and I turn into fucking William Wallace and start screaming about the monarchy shoot lightning out your ass anyway Wallace and start screaming about the monarchy. Shouldn't lightning after it. Anyway, should we move into the ad read for our number one, most important sponsor. All right.

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they're all the same blanks yeah going on to another podcast to complain about us complaining except this one

except that one that's a different yeah different and the red one was a different blank yeah yeah

all right Keith you want to get our guest on the horn yeah let's make sure there's lucky loser out of here and let's see here he is uh big matt is that you buddy that is me i'm here welcome to the unpaid and underrated podcast we are uh so uh we'll always hit you with the hardest one first so uh what brought you to metronomics well i was super about heavy lifting and I was at the YMCA in Aberdeen, the famous YMCA of Aberdeen. With the missing toilet paper?

There's a lot more than just missing toilet paper. Working there, trying to get strong, train people to get strong. Did a powerlifting meet for the guys there at the Y for the staff. Tanner saw it on Instagram and said, hey, you should come right on over, right over to that mysterious place in Aberdeen and come lift at a gym. And so I was hooked. So what year was that, give or take? Oh, yeah, I was there for a long time.

Gotcha. So relatively new to the massonomics world, and so you got like two years or so or a year and a half yes but i knew about massonomics beforehand gotcha gotcha my first massonomics the gym or like the whole persona uh the brand actually because i saw i can't think what his name is he's a guy that does the kickflips with the deadlifts uh mikey maybe yes yes i saw his videos on uh instagram a while back i think i might have even been either during covid or pre covid and i saw those and i was like that looks familiar and then i moved to aberdeen i was like oh right there nice i'm kind of bummed you didn't say oh the billboards yeah no i googled it i avoid that street at all costs every street in

aberdeen that i drove on was fucking gridlock traffic i swear to god like i don't understand it's such a small place i couldn't get anywhere like in a timely manner wait till you go back this year i'm gonna leave i'm gonna leave that up to you but it's pretty bad more construction more gps is telling you to go the wrong way because it's fucking street shut down yeah it's gonna be a lot of steve and larry yelling at people in a hole all right what's your hall of fame status um as of today because i'm here on the podcast i'm at 11 oh there you go and i'm working i am working my way through the backlogs and i'll be at 12 is that what you think you'll need is that'll be is that the most achievable

one to hit 12 yes okay unless unless tanner makes a a fake contest for me to win yeah no i need a fucking contest you guys ever won a contest no oh oh wait actually if i count my my dead hang contest? No. Oh, wait, actually, if I count my, my dead hang contest, I'm pretty sure I won that before Tanner. I'm not sure what, what was at the gym.

No, you know, it's, it's gotta be like, it's gotta be like a crew thing and it's gotta be, I mean, it was all crew members. So I don't know.

No druthers for that one. I'm not the keeper of that, so let's... No, I'll go through the backlog and get that before the meet. So where are you at in the backlog, and how is that? I think I'm roughly at 100, because I'm still keeping up with... I'm keeping up with the new ones and I also listen to

another podcast you started about a year and a half ago or so so you're up to date from then and then you're about 100 episodes in so you gotta go to 300 episodes 200 episodes to catch back up on how is that listening Simultaneously to 2017-18 Tanner and Tommy to

2024 Tanner and Tommy Honestly It's a little more geared at my pace They talk a lot more about strength training and what they do So kind of more down my alley But I mean I still love The nothing That's what's cool about the backlog

There might be something in it there for you too so you know it's what got him here so it's good stuff uh where are people going to find you what's your uh instagram discord anything people want to find you on just they know who you're talking to uh instagram is matthew.sunling.cpt might be underscore no it's not um tiktok is the underscore matthew underscore sunling and yeah discord i couldn't even tell you yeah it's yeah it's that could probably take discord out of them they don't really care as well it changes every server i go to so yeah it's only important i guess if people when you're when your name is so different like at least i know i know yours is like mad or matthew or something so your your Discord is your real name, so that's easy enough.

Part of the ongoing battle against the Davids. The Matts? The Matts. Is Matt the highest repeat name? No, I think David is. I think David Sill is. No, there's like three Davids.

There's also Sleeper Davids. There's no way David is even in the top Three so I'm pretty sure There's two Matthews And there's Matthias If you count that I don't think you did because I don't think you said in the podcast It counted so

There's like ten Ryans in there Oh yeah I guess Ryans And there's like 10 ryan's in there oh yeah i guess ryan's ryan's and there's a shit there's like three or four joey's now too or joe joey josephs there's a lot of joes so yeah i think david i don't think david's even in the on the mount rushmore uh even though we just we just don't like the david's more we hate them the most well that's that's a that's a that's a different contest but but yes. It's going to be a Rascals type of... We're not the most likable of crew. Ryan's come out and played. Ah, nice.

I think they're supposed to do a miniseries. Do you think Tommy would get that reference? No. I don't think 99% of the people listening to this podcast got that reference I can't think of the name of the movie oh what oh Warriors I knew it

good stuff you missed it where I said Rascals you did say that's why I was even I assumed it was a Joey misstep and I'm like no but that's fucking the word. I don't get it.

No, I'm so fucking tired. All right. Just just out here trolling Keith, exhausted and hot. You're not trolling me. You just can't. If you just misspeakak how's that a troll that's not fair yeah sure miss that i love how jen called me like i guess we were all busting uh cody's balls for say a niche instead of niche last week or something well by but we all saw that

someone said it and then i ran with it and on the instagram and then jen pointed out like well you can make fun of him for that, but then I completely butchered some quote or phrase and I do remember butchering that and I'm glad someone caught that. It was funny. It was a great story. Shut up. You're going to put that one in your memoirs

or? So Matt, you're from Oregon. You've been in Aberdeen. Now you're in Omaha, I believe. Where else is it? from oregon you've been in south you've been in aberdeen now you're in omaha i believe that where else you visit is it everywhere you've been it's not everywhere i've been so oregon grew up around the state went to a couple different towns um lincoln city is where i call home there um then i went to washington for my first two years of school and then ended up in aberdeen after covid which was good and bad

basketball ended powerlifting started and then ended up here in omaha now i get to see lou every day that's every day lose you guys train at the same gym then right yeah but he is so he has switched times and our powerlifting group has now fallen apart at our gym. We used to have like 25 lifters and we have four. No, no fucking Lou. What do you, what? It's not just him.

It's not just, I know. I'm just, it's actually, there's one guy that moved that took everybody out. So super hard to coordinate more than a couple of guys. Like it was extremely hard to coordinate. And it's been funny.

Cause we've been kind of seeing that firsthand and like in the, in some of the discord, cause you got the Sioux fall boys and some of the water, the, the water town guys. And, uh, where the hell is Nate from? Is it's another, one of those towns over there. Like Thomas? Uh, no. Oh, sorry, Jake.

I meant Jake's not in Brookings. Okay. Yeah. So like water town, because they're all like, they're all driving like an hour and a half to work out sometimes now. Cause, uh, that's just kind of cool. But seeing them trying to coordinate that, it's been good stuff, guys. This is me calling out Paul a little bit, but

every time I drive through Sioux Falls and hit him up, he's out of town or he doesn't read my text. Good old Paulie. Happy anniversary to the Flosses, I believe, yesterday. And happy anniversary today to the Flosses, I believe, yesterday. Mm-hmm.

And happy anniversary today to the Cessnays. Yeah. Okay. You're looking at me like you want me to talk. No, I just shoehorned it in there. Hopefully, Nate can reflect that dead air. Rep the other Matthew there. Yep.

All right. So we did your Hall of Fame status. So, I mean, you're relatively new right about a year and a year two years in yep when you see us all wearing shirts and you see all the backlog what's the one shirt or a piece of clothing you wish you had um for every single day that i was at massonomics gym tanner would walk in in the sweats the joggers and i want them i have told him every day he walks in i want them but there's a black one to the red lift on it no i think it says it's massonomics on the side with the original lift um okay uh whatever you call it yeah logo yeah yeah whatever Yeah. Yeah. Whatever that term is.

Like, I don't type on computers all day. I remember those. I didn't order those either. Because I think I just ordered the Lift Evil one. And I was like, I don't need more sweats. Right. I was wrong. Keith, you want to do least fun, most fun? Let's do it.

So you had touched on playing basketball. So before we get too far, anyone listening? So least fun, most fun? Let's do it. So you had touched on playing basketball. So before we get too far, anyone listening? So least fun, most fun. Relatively new segment that we came up with here. Basically, I'm going to give you a topic, and you just tell me the least fun thing about it and the most fun thing about it. You're not comparing it to anything else.

It's just the high and the low of this individual topic. So playing college basketball, least fun, most fun? Most fun? Probably my first party with my buddies in Pasco, Washington at Columbia Basin College. That was a hell of a time right before COVID. Least fun, and I'm calling them out by name and any of my buddies will listen to this. Stan Holt is by far the least fun time I had playing basketball. Was that a coach or a trainer?

No, he was our, he was our head coach my last year. And the whole reason I made the switch to powerlifting was I tore my calf, my gastroc twice. Cause he made us go to a military camp out in Iowa and I hit the, the 90 degree board and tore it right off the bone. Jesus. And then told me,

he told me I was perfectly fine. And I went to so many doctors and they're like, Nope, you need surgery. Never got it. So, yeah, they'll do that. That's like I think I've shared the story before. Like my high school gym teacher made me hate fitness.

And then I didn't do anything for years. So I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm also sorry you had to go to Iowa. Yeah. Gosh. I go every. Hello, Iowa. I go to Iowaowa every day so that's where i work i don't even know anything about iowa i just wanted to bother a few islands

oh i know who you're talking about i know they're listening uh but just uh to follow up on that too uh we're still we're still on the well i mean the game's over at least that was epic uh you played college basketball you, how'd that go? And as far as you know, what, what level did you play at? Did you worry at the same school the whole time and all that? Right. So I started off in a smaller conference in the Pacific Northwest called the NWAC at a school called Columbia Basin College.

The town is called Pascoe. It's the tri-city. We all called it el pasco obvious reasons higher population of certain individual um and then moved out to aberdeen to play at presentation college which is closed now tanner's talked about it a few times the dome that he goes to with his kids oh yeah that's our old football dome our logo is still on the field. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. And then, yeah, that was the NAIA level. So pretty common out here in the Midwest is NAIA ball, unless you're playing D1. Like, you're probably going to go NAIA.

Okay. What were you? You're like, I met you, so you're like, what, 6'3", 6'4"? My driver's license is 6'5", but I'm probably 6'4". Okay, so you played like a... You were a power forward at a small school then, I'm guessing. So, junior college, I played a lot of like

2-3, and then I got to my 4-year afterwards, and it was like a 4-5 roll if I played. I was hurt so often, I didn't play, so... Gotcha. That's pretty cool. I haven't had a... You know, it's cool. I haven't had a... Collegiate.

Collegiate. Collegate. That's collagen? Collegate. None of those words are accurate. Well, one is more fun to say. Second least fun, most fun, but also

segue into another story here uh planning a public uh marriage engagement oh that was uh interesting uh most fun part was obviously doing it and like planning with all my buddies to like clear the space the i would say the least fun part was the back and forth with emails because i started planning like four months ahead and i didn't get a response until like a week before after the first couple emails so i was like are we doing it are we not what's going on so all right all right so games over and then as far as yeah so just tell us the we all i think anyone that followed you saw you just had a public uh engagement were you kind of surprised her at a concert i believe she's going to walk everyone through that real

quick yep so uh we were going to a charles wesley godwin concert um he's an east coast artist just a little bit south i believe of you keith west virginia um and he we saw him back in 2022 in Oregon with Zach Bryan. And we kind of talked to him there at that concert afterwards. We went to the after party, but not too extensively. And then just out of the blue, I was like, you know, I got to plan this like in depth. So I shot a random DM. I was like, we already have tickets. Might as well try.

Woke up the next morning, had a response, hooked me up with the tour manager, and we just went back and forth until we got a plan together. And then pieces kind of just all fell together without too much work on the planning side of things. My buddies were showing up for the concert. I was like, oh, hey, you want to clear space for us? I'll buy you drinks, and we'll have a good time. And then I haven't posted this yet, but we went up on the stage and danced.

The picture's up, not the video um to uh country roads so that's cool yeah that is awesome yeah no i'm actually i'm did she say yes yes she said yes yeah we still live together so be kind of awkward to know and for a few minutes my my thing my favorite part of that was earlier when you said your favorite part of that the most fun part of the proposal was doing it. And we kind of just left it at that. Just like doing it. It's like, oh, cool. You got that part out of the way already. That's good.

David's, that's a sex reference. Yes. Yes. He's speaking to intercourse. Yes. Well, yes. He's speaking to intercourse. Yes. Well, congratulations. Congratulations on intercourse. Thank you.

I heard it's great. One day I hope to achieve it. And actually, well, no, because I just clicked off that got engaged last week. So in my head, I was thinking from experience. Yeah, it felt like a Saturday, but it wasn't a Saturday. All right. So you are signed up again for the Lift Hard, Leave Easy. I'm hoping, right? Yes.

Round two. Yeah. Round two. Yeah. I did see you got the you sent me the road to the Lift Hard, Leave Easy. I don't think I actually got a chance to watch it yet, but I will. Not great. I had to film it like four times. so some some people have been putting a lot of

effort into those and i've had others that are just like but one take here's 45 seconds i'm like that's cool too i'll take whatever you guys want to give us so you told me a minute 40 seconds what yeah no you post whatever you want oh my god well yeah i like the minute or under but i've gotten i've gotten several that were a couple minutes and I'm like, that's fine. I just please at least clip them for me. So I don't have to clip myself because I can't post like a three minute video. I did mine in one take and then I was like, OK, I'm going to do a reshoot, but I'm going to try like a different like because I did like a kind of macho man Hulk Hogan mix. Right. And then I was like, maybe if I come in with a kevin nash attitude or maybe we have a scott hall

laid back nwo attitude i couldn't catch it i ended up doing the first take yeah so it was pretty my first video i was so stressing over the minute i was like trying to add a uh add a logo for three seconds to make it a minute and i was so close to just getting like keith take this and put i don't care what you put in front. Put it in front. You just put it in Keith's head. When it all fails, you put the Keith's head for like a second. It works for me every time.

Oh. It's weird looking at myself the whole time right now. My face is his background. His finger in my nose right now. I got you up above me too. I'm getting fingered on both. I'm getting spit-roasted

over here. You can always change yours to me. There's plenty of pictures of me out there. So, me prep's going good. We're all less than fucking two and a half weeks away, but I basically have less than two weeks of training left, essentially. Ready to peak and get all that dialed in yeah um i don't know i peak kind of weird so i

always i always do it three weeks out and i just take my my biggest and really this time i just focus on squat like i knew deadlift's gonna be there but i messed my hip up for deadlift and i was like i'm gonna take it and we'll ride off adrenaline. If I'm hurt afterwards, I've got a long offseason. So I took my heaviest squat, somewhat heaviest bench, really was just trying to see, like, are my triples, are my thirds from the last meet going to be my openers for this meet? Because that's always my goal is turn third attempts into openers. That's a big fucking, that's an aggressive goal to do. I sandbagged it last time. I i sand i get really bad last time like 479 at uh king of the north moved so easy i looked at those like that's

that's bad nice uh well how was uh the the water town throwdown a couple weeks ago you have fun with fun there oh, it was great. Except, you know, hurt hip and trying to squat heavy. Yeah, yeah. You're fucking telling me about your hurt hip, and didn't you take like 455 for a double or something? So I just commented this on YouTube. Tommy cheated me out of 12 pounds.

It was 467. Oh, no. So, yeah, it was 467 for a double, which technically is the most I've ever done for a double, at least with a squat bar. So I've done a little bit more on a power bar, and then also with a safety squat bar I've done more. That's impressive. Safety squat bars typically I'm like 5% to 10%. Well, Pricol's is 10% weaker on its SSB.

Transformer bar, so it's a little cheater. You can put the transformer in a low bar setting and it would be more advantageous. I guess that's different. Gotcha, gotcha. So you mentioned you were working at the YMCA in Aberdeen, and you're still working at a YMCA, but I'm assuming you're a little more farther up the chain now. So tell everybody what you do for a living if you want. So I'm a health and wellness director at our YMmca which i was told not to reference the name but really fun place to work uh not your typical ymca we have a lot so i when i came down here to omaha i had a chance to work

at two different locations i chose what i'm at now in iowa because it was more like power lifters and olympic lifters Just people want to get strong. So like every day I walk up there, you know, we have, we have Texas deadlift bar. We have an axle bar. We have two competition bars. And the only thing we're missing now is squat bar and a competition rack.

And we'll be set. But that's awesome. Like I've never even heard of a Y having that kind of stuff. yeah it's not super common so this is pretty cool i will say there's another y in our area that actually hosts like full powerlifting meets because they have a full rack um minus minus kilo plates because that's kind of hard like putting the budget but yeah and then you're gonna have like your your 70 year old grandpa not knowing what to do with a fucking a 25 pound red and just like what is this where's i just want to bench 225 what the fuck yeah yes that makes sense but yeah so i basically i basically just train people all day and do a little bit of paperwork on the side uh go to meetings and then train people some more

and then lift on my own time which is really nice but most of my day working with like older individuals a lot of them actually want to get into powerlifting so I get to just teach squat bench and lift all day long that's awesome you don't have to buy your own membership there like big Jake does

at his fucking gym do you? no no no so when I moved down here I was trying to work at the gym I lift at now. And they were like, yeah, you got to pay $500 a month to train. And then on top of that, pay like $45 for the membership. I was like, yeah, that's not happening. I'll just lift here. Oh, they want $500 so then you can coach and not give them kickbacks per client?

Yeah. Well, they don't even offer the kickbacks. It's strictly just pay $500 a month. Which, I mean, what do you got to fucking... If you have a shitty couple weeks, that's... I mean, I guess I get it.

But I mean, they do have a nice setup. It's like you bring in 10 people to the gym, it's $100 off. So, I mean, if I take what I have now, I'm paying like $350 if I take raw numbers. now I mean I'm getting I'm paying like $350 if I take raw numbers $300 if I'm aggressive about it so it sounds like your gym's an MLM to be honest

with you a little bit it's also like they if they're going to allow because they're allowing people to most gyms don't allow personal training unless they're offering it or they're getting that you basically pay rent that's exactly what it is

that's what I thought the F500 was you give us $500 and then you bill your clients whatever you need to bill that's what it is you get an incentive to bring in so everybody that comes in to train has to be a member too I guess it is a pyramid scheme a little bit

it is but it isn't if someone's trying to sell you something that isn't going to i guess it is a pyramid scheme but a little bit like like it is but it isn't it's got to be a better like like if someone's trying to sell you fucking something that isn't going to work that's pyramid scheme that's what you're talking about i mean it's the same concept what yeah so it sounds like you're working you're pretty busy you have much time to do uh any fishing for the most part actually i've been getting back into it so i i do get some time i've kind of cut back my training so i have some free days here and there i went from six days to five days so i take an extra day in the week say i'm gonna go fishing so living all over the country um this fishing completely different and like where you grow up

to where you've lived where you're living now now. Like, do you have to like, like do stuff different to catch the fish or are you just catching the same fish? Kind of. Uh, I mean, like, so I grew up actually, my,

he can't see my dad's in the background and he, um, he was a guy when I was younger. So I'm your dad. Now you know, my dad is actually visiting. So he, uh,

he was a guide when I was younger and we did a lot of like salmon and, um, steelhead fishing. So you, you have both those out in New York. Um, in the big lakes. Um,

so we, we did a lot of that. Once I moved to Washington, I really got into bass fishing, um, and, and catfish, but I can never like go out consistently.

And then South Dakota, it was like a pike catfish. There you can never go out consistently. And then South Dakota, it was like, ah, pike, catfish. There you go. That's all you get. So, that's kind of what I go for now. It's expensive. So... Oh, like the hobby itself? Yeah. You think powerlifting is expensive? Wait until you get to fishing.

Oh, because you have to have a license in like three different states now, too. You probably actively have a couple different states that you're at. So right now, I just have my Nebraska, but at one point I did have Oregon, Washington, and South Dakota. And Montana in there, too, because it's along the way.

Be good. One thing I never got into is fishing. You're in Canada, man. That's like all you got that and i thought all canadians are true at all like nine months a year that was something yes no i'll be honest i'll be honest south dakota is literally just all ice fishing so yeah i was gonna say aren't they north of me like what are you talking about um don't tell them that he aren't they north of me? What are you talking about? Shh.

Don't tell them that. Keith is actually north of me too, technically. If you're looking at straight up parallels. Oh, I know. Really? Yeah. Wait, like equally? I don't know, maybe.

If I am up top, I'm much to see here. So, okay, weird thing. You love Sour Candy? i know who wrote that is that true because my wife's the same she's like no i'll she won't touch black licorice she won't touch any of my favorite stuff but she's like sour candy yeah put it in my veins i don't like black licorice but there are some weird ones out there that i like um uh i can't think what it's called they're they're little gummies you normally buy them in like country stores not gummies they're hard candies um i can't think what the flavor is but it's very like bitter it's really good it's not just sour candy it's just like that's the go-to because it's most abundant on the stores

it's either chocolate or sour like that's your choice chocolate all day maybe one out of ten sour but I don't think I've had sour candies since I was like a kid at a movie theater you don't take sour patch when you go to deadlift or not deadlift I guess bench I do it at deadlift but no I I'll do like the Swedish fish or top tier Swedish

berries I okay so like to me like sour especially who wrote this question because i know who it was they assimilate like uh swedish fish any of those like fruity candies as like sour yeah that person's straight up wrong my favorite i think my favorite candy because sometimes i have them post-workout like if it's a really really heavy session, I want to mess with my glucose and make sure, so I'll pop a candy. I do like Coke bottles. I think those little gummy Coke bottles.

Yeah. I don't like those. I love those. Those are the ones I really don't like. But my go-to candy is normally the Cherry Sours. So that's where they're getting it. I love the Cherry Sours. Cherry Blasters?

Sure. they're called cherry sours when you go to the mecca of casey's so what does that mean you know he's like the store casey's gas station he's got introduced to this because he rode with me oh yeah we didn't actually get a go to it but uh isn't the billboard right next to a casey's yes it's the Yes. It's the only Casey's in that. Yeah, so we will. Everyone. So yeah, Casey's breakfast pizza is like Midwest renowned, apparently. I hear about it on like three different fucking podcasts I listen

to, I think. Yes. I guess I'll get learned on that one. Yep. So we don't have Casey's. We have something called the Bulk Barn up here, which is infinitely better. What do you guys have, Keith? Do you guys have QT up there? No, we've got

Burndary and Buckeye Nexon and shit. I miss Sheetz. Sheetz is my favorite. I don't have Sheetz in New York, but Sheetz is the best gas station I've ever been to. Couldn't tell you. I don't know Sheetz. They're the best.

Well, Bulk Barn's not a gas station. Couldn't tell you. I don't know if she is the best. Bulkbarn's not a gas station. Bulkbarn is. You literally just go and they have barrels of shit. And then you buy it by the weight. Oh. Yeah, that makes sense. So that's where we get all our candy, because it's just, they have everything, and it's, you can

control how much you buy. Well, speaking of things you can control how much you buy well speaking of things you can control have you had any uh better luck with the gps trying to find that fucking bar that we were trying to go to and uh crew falls last winter that was fucking that was horrible yeah we were trying to uh have a little crew fall it was we all got into crew falls i think on friday but nothing was really happening until saturday and it was like four of us trying to get together and do something and it was just hard to coordinate and uh matt picked me up and we were gonna go meet paul and masonomics i believe at some bar and like whatever we put in the gps just took it to some fucking dude's house

it was nowhere near and then when like when he re-entered it it was like 20 minutes in the other fucking side of goddamn sioux falls not the other side so i will say this it was yeah still still the western side so where we went was uh t and if you don't know the like the geography of sioux falls you have sioux falls and you got all the surrounding little towns right so like there's t and that's where the liberty bar bill was where we went but we went way to the western side of tea like way out there some random dude's house he had like some uh some weird like bar sign in the window but it wasn't a bar and uh i don't know who messaged me it was either paul i think it was paul that messed me and he's like where the fuck are you guys i'm like boonie bushes i'm

abducting keith all i wanted to do was fucking eat dinner i was my i remember i was sitting at the bar i was sitting at the bar at the restaurant and i had wings ordered and then you texted and was like i can pick you up in like 10 minutes i was like cool and my mind i was in my mind i was like that means i can eat in like 30 minutes because it's already like 7 38 o'clock and yeah it's like no i'm on i'm on the dot yeah but then like we went and met fucking paul and m Mason at a bar and there was literally we weren't going to be able to get food there for

90 minutes because they didn't have a table for at least an hour. So we ended up going to another restaurant 10 minutes away and just smashed a mediocre steak, but it was some chain. I don't even remember. Referees, referees, which oh my gosh that burger was amazing

was it okay good deal yeah i think i had a big ass steak and potatoes if i recall yeah you're the odd one out we all got burgers and you're just fucking eating a steak so hungry man so east coast no he loves his steaks i do i do too but like you go to a restaurant like that it's burger yeah that's funny even morgan was just like he fucking loves steak and i was like i fucking love steak but i'm the only one in the house so i never don't my wife loves steak so it's easy like if we're we don't cook a lot and if we do it's pretty much fucking steak yeah if we're gonna make dinner nine times out of ten it's steak i wish i wish so uh video games uh someone had i saw video games that are a hobby from like

three different people, so when you play, what do you like? Is that, do you have an addiction, or is it just, you know? I mean, what do we qualify, what do we quantify as an addiction? Are you more addicted to video games as Joey is currently to Zin?

Oh, no. Yeah, how many Zins did you say you take a day? Like four. Yeah, no, no, not a fun. Yeah. How many, how many sins did you say you take a day? Like four? Yeah, no, not like 20 million. I'm not 20,

16 to 20 milligrams. No, no, no, no, no. I am. So right now I am super into MLB.

Um, and I've always been in the, in the, uh, the show franchise. I've always been into it. Baseball for anyone that's not. Yes.

Is that major leagueball? Thank you. You guys have a team up there. Come on. You had two. What? Up here? In Canada? Yes. Toronto Blue Jays and the Edmonton. I know about Toronto Blue Jays. No, not Edmonton. I haven't watched baseball.

Montreal Expos. I watch two minutes of the World Series every five years at best so yeah so I'm really I'm really into that and it's mainly because I got into the Diamond Dynasty series which is you collect cards so like if you play 2k it's it's my team if you play

Madden that's ultimate team so I'm collecting baseball cards and it's like always this constant battle to get the best card. And right now it's just pissing me off because I joined a game and people are hitting home runs off my best card. So I'm like... But, I mean,

I also play some Call of Duty here and there. Word. Don't play much else other than those two. I really got into, it's very nerdy, got into playing Armba on my Xbox, and that was a shit show that i spent probably like six hours playing that one day nice well i like i do i do enjoy those days every now and then where you just fucking just go right into it and just yeah wait you mean you look

up you meet fun people i never do that i don't do the online stuff i do um call of duty is really fun takes me back to my childhood when playing mW2 and people just cursing at me. Your childhood, or as I refer to them as, my early 30s. Yeah. So speaking of that, basically, so anyone my age, roughly, or thereabouts that does play video games, NCAA football, basically NCAA football 25 is coming back. There hasn't been an EA sports college football game there's been a college football game at all since 2013 uh since like

the players sued essentially because they weren't getting any money for it and now with NIL they can actually pay them so we're getting a college football game on you know video on a video game college football college football video game for the first time in fucking like 14 years 12 years whatever the fuck it is that's the greatest ever. But you would have never actually played the original series, I'm guessing. Like NCAA football? Yes, I definitely did. One of my first games was actually

You'd be like a kid kid then when you played. Yeah, it was with what's his first name? Is it Al Harrington from the Oregon Ducks? Joey. Joey. That would have been 2003. So Al Harrington is from Family Guy. from the Oregon Ducks. Joey. Joey. That would have been 2003. Yeah, 2003.

Whoa, so Al Harrington's from Family Guy. Okay, well, you know what? I was throwing a laugh. Okay, I was young. I just looked at the badge. Back of the jersey. Al Harrington is the wacky inflatable arm flailing tube man. Joey Harrington is going to be an unpaid underrated later, you fuck.

Oh, shit. You're good. No, no, no. fanboy out here no yeah that was the first one uh that one and then um 2004 usc quarterback and i can't think what his name was but i played it yeah i played that one a lot oh i'm just i'm so my so my my first like sports game was mad in 2001 so i was like five and i played that. I got it a couple years late, but that was my first one. Gotcha.

Like me, I'm sure there's a lot of crew that are excited for that game. It literally comes out July 18th. 19th. Oh, 18th. 19th for you because you are on the East Coast.

For all of us, a little more West. Comes out at 11 o'clock for me and then my buddy's back home. It's like 9 o'clock. For anyone not looking at the calendar, the video game comes out during fucking the Lift Hard Live Easy classic. And this is a game that almost my entire

childhood and early 20s I don't think people we used to go to game stop at 11 o'clock on a fucking thursday or whatever the night was to buy the game that released at midnight like i and then i would go fucking play the game for like four hours like for like five years straight once i had like i think i actually had a license like i fucking was addicted to this game no i definitely did that um so when i was i took a gap year between high school and college my senior year gap year freshman and sophomore year of college

i did um i played i i didn't play it professionally but i i got like sponsorships and stuff to play 2k and i made instagram content it's no longer out there because i took all that stuff down but i shouldn't know because it was a very popular page there because I took all that stuff down, but I shouldn't though because it was a very popular page and I had a lot of stuff on it. But yeah, I was like I was out outside the store every single time from like 2K13 all the way till like 2K20

you know COVID hit. Waiting for the game. I'm just going to order that on Amazon and have it waiting for me when I get back Monday. Well, I guess getting on my Xbox Sunday night, so I'll play it all day Monday before I go back to work. I'm just going to order that on Amazon and have it waiting for me when I get back Monday. Getting it on my Xbox pre-downloaded already. I'll get it back Sunday night, so I'll play it all day Monday before I go back to work because I'm taking a Keith Day Monday

in case the travel fucks me. I do the pre-download thing. Assassin's Creed, the new one, comes out in November. I'll have it pre-downloaded by next week. What? I'm still a hard disk guy. Should I switch? No, no, no. Hard disk, hard disk, hard disk guy should i switch like no no hard disk hard disk hard disk i feel like if i do the download like i got i already can only have like two games

well what do you play on ps5 oh yeah no hard disk yeah i think i'll always i don't think i'll ever do a digital download i think the only time i got a digital download is when it came free with the system but i've never paid for digital download all hard disk new games usually unless it's assassin's creed and i desperately want to play the new one uh but classic games all hard disk as well and uh and and the arkham series i downloaded because it was like all three games for nine dollars did you get that on pc or did you get that on uh i've actually played it on everything i currently have it on ps5 i've beaten that game to 110 three times each i always i always buy it play like a couple minutes get past the ivy

mission and then just screw around yep no i i usually that's what i do but then sometimes i'll just make it a mission to just go yeah and then other times it's screw around but yeah i've completed that game game speaking of games I know you guys asked Lou this question for wrestling games so this is kind of for you Joey what was your first wrestling game because I don't remember what you said it was probably WCW

NW Revenge N64 oh okay not Dreamcaster I was thinking it was Dreamcaster no I didn't really play any wrestling games on dreamcast because i never had a dreamcast my friends did we played mostly marvel versus capcom on dreamcast um what was your favorite though probably nw really yeah absolutely because well obviously like it was formative right it was my

introduction video games as mentioned right wrestling video games and it had the characters and the entrances and you know chris jericho had his voice in it and it was like raven was on the cover raven's one of my top tier you know favorite wrestlers of all time so like it was really but then they got like it was like a b and the joystick where your fucking moves. And you could go up an A or down an A. Or you could hold A and go up an A and down an A. And those were your moves. And then they would be like,

I think by the time you got to the WWE, the same people made WWE, I want to say WrestleMania 2000. And it was the same format. Yep, good game. Yep. But then by the time format. Yep. Good game. Yep. But then by the time you got into the attitude games. THQ.

Yeah. Your moves were like whole day to grapple and then do up left over down CCCAB. And then you could do your finisher. And you're like, I'm not fucking doing this. Like I'm 10. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not doing that to do my finish.

So that was about the time I gave up on wrestling games. This one right here. I'm not doing that to do my finish so that would be by the time I gave up on wrestling games this one right here between this one which you can't see now you can just see Undertaker 2008 and 2010 were my two favorite by far I thought were the best ones

was that the Smackdown versus Raw right? yes 8 was the first one that had ECW and it had CM Punk from ESW Was that the Smackdown versus Raw, right? Yes. Definitely good games. 8 was the first one that had ECW, and it had CM Punk from ESW, and I was like, ECW. Yeah. Was that the one where you could go backstage and fight backstage

if you threw them properly? Okay, yeah, so I remember that game. Oh, no, actually, no, sorry, that was 2009. 2009, you could throw them backstage. 2008 was the first one that had Backstreet Brawls. Got it. Yeah, okay, yeah, and then they started letting you throw them backstage and

go through tables and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, I remember all those. And now, the new ones are just fucking awful. Like, I appreciate the graphics. 24 is good. I actually like 24. Yeah, I actually do like it. I don't like having to pay for, like, CM Punk, but, you know, you do

what you do. You know you know the fiend i think he was the pre-order and then he died and they just kind of released him yeah so he was um he was supposed to be pre-order in 23 you had to pay for him and then um they released him as part of the season pass you still had to pay for him but it was like here's this yeah now i don't know i get micro transactions and stuff like that usually turns yeah sorry keith it wasn't my fault this time no no no we rambled about football for like 10 minutes so uh i just something that had slipped through the cracks if you will the first time i looked through these notes yeah you have a ronnie coleman tattoo on your ass? Yeah, totally.

Let's hear that one. Let's hear that story. I do not have a Ronnie Coleman tattoo. Somebody said you did. Why did someone say that? Did I read that wrong? I know it's in there. I know that one.

Is it a story? Did you tell someone that? No. If it's who I think it is, he is like obsessed with ronnie coleman when he lives so he literally just will yell it unless it was somebody else and she's gonna be in trouble for saying that but i don't think it's her um i think you have to show it your ass to prove us you don't have a runny nose no i don't want to see your ass it'll be

blurry anyway you'll see it in four weeks that makes me so sad because I even made a good segue to it damn it at least I thought I did yeah no I definitely did not have one well that was very disappointing your friends are fired from giving us fucking information as they should be until next time

hey I got a fun question who's Coetzel Coetzel like the most dirtbag of all country artists Hey, I got a fun question. Who's Coe Wetzel? Coe Wetzel? The most dirtbag of all country artists? I mean, kind of like who I listened to all through college for country music. Went and saw him finally in Sioux Falls with Big Brandon,

who's new to the crew. And... I mean... Without pulling up who Coe Wetzrestle is i can't be like that's what we heard you met yeah yeah um yes i went backstage paid way too much money for it and i'll be like that way too much money uh had a like the private show the most artists do and then see i i kind of feel like the the dirty country artists i've seen um they're just drinking at the bar with you before they go to stage oh no he was drinking with us he was definitely

drinking with us but right like i remember do you know who bob log the third is yes okay totally just standing there one day and i think my sister was playing at the at the same venue and she turns to me, she goes, do you know who that is? Cause he wears a mask, right? Yeah. And I kind of gave him up and down.

I was like, is that him? And she's like, yeah, but we can't say anything. And he's just fucking sitting there at the bar, drinking, same as Scott Byram,

right? Scott. Yeah. He goes to the back for most of the pre-show, but then he comes out and he just pounded beers with you before he goes on stage. Right. I'm still here.

Sorry. No no it's okay i'm just not into the country music as much as you but i have some stories i have some yeah um drinking with scott byram getting almost kicked out of the show no i never never had the fun of like drinking with the country artists mainly like drinking to their music so like a lot of my a lot of my buddies were like big co-ed fans um it, you know, it's right up there with like Ryan Bingham. It just like kind of developed my country taste. A lot of who I listen to is like Zach Bryan. Like

his album just came out today. Been listening to that nonstop. Yeah. I know of Zach Bryan. Yeah. I was the guy that's kicked off the rant about Tanner hating Zach Bryan. So I give him a hard time every time I see him and he's like, I don about Tanner hating Zach Bryan. Oh, no. I give him a hard time every time I see him, and he's like, I don't hate him.

I'm like, no, it's okay. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's the artist that told Tanner to shut up. Yeah. Yeah. No, that was Clint Black. Was it Clint Black? Okay.

No, it's Clint Black. It's Clint Black. It was in the same story. He went Zach Bryan and then transitioned to Clint Black because he didn't want to talk about Zach Bryan anymore. I remember that. I think I remember that a lot more. Because if I go to a concert, I don't want to fucking hear anybody else other than the artist, but that's just me. No, fun story, though.

I almost got in a fight at a Zach Bryan concert the first time I saw him. Well, the only time I saw him. With Tanner? No, not with Tanner. Shut up, Tanner. Me and Lori were... It's the same concert we saw Charles Wesley Godwin at. Somebody pulled Lori back

because she's trying to get back up to the front with drinks. I'm hopping over people. I'm like, I'll beat your ass. The night you got engaged? No, this was 2022. I'm like, why the fuck are you trying to fight somebody when you're getting engaged? I got you.

Were there any fights when you spilled all that chalk at Masonomics Gym? I'm like, fuck, you're trying to fight somebody. We're going to get engaged. I got you. Close. Almost. Were there any fights when you spilled all that chalk at Masonomics Gym? I heard you pissing people off. What? Didn't you? Don't look at us. I'm going off. Yeah.

You've never spilled chalk once at Masonomics Gym? Never spilled chalk. You've never had one speck of dust? Yeah. I think we got kind of sabotaged here on some of these notes and reading through them I'm gonna like highlight like there's like I can tell that like five of them are just stupid and wrong well I'm

sure one of them is from the guy that left our current to them because I literally asked like I know you're gonna put something dumb in that story well yeah for a future reference if people if we ask for content and your friends give a stupid shit like it's gonna ruin our podcast and you can tell them to go fuck themselves because I'm I'm actively telling your friend to go fuck himself for sabotaging right now. So good to know. I mean, I probably I honestly I probably did like go walking up the deadlift just putting too much on my hands because I was that guy for a while.

I did put too much chalk on my hands, but I don't remember spilling chalk. So, OK, what kind of what kind of chalkers are you guys so i'm a painter i get the block and i rub it on all my fingers and my thumb yep i i try to be that i do yeah i'm not i don't i don't i don't love the loose and i've actually had some like uh some conflict here a little bit because chris loves the loose chalk then he like he bought some like like like climbers chalk for the gym and i just felt that it was like too fine yeah like i have it in the in the bowl but it's like segregated because like i don't want to mix it up with my regular chalk because it feels so different i have bone dust which is very very very fine it almost feels like baby powder cornstarch chalk and i only pull it out like when i need to do like the

yeah and like clap like when i need to psych myself up is when i pull out the bone dust but most of the time it's just like very carefully paint the palm and fingers and thumb with the block um our our gym is notorious for stupid people putting baby powder in the chalk and it's like if you're not one of the seasoned guys you don't really know for stupid people putting baby powder into chalk. Fucking dummies. If you're not one of the seasoned guys, you don't really know. If you've never used chalk, you walk up and you're like, oh, it feels right. And it's like, no, you can feel that little bit of soft in there.

That's not okay. Normally, I'll try to take the smallest piece possible and I just paint my fingertips or I guess my whole finger. I don't like doing my palm too much because I hold with my fingers i don't pull my hand so i go like i go like this and hold it tight yep yeah i definitely uh with my new texas deadlift like this part of my hand after every after every lift this part is fucking demolished so i try to make sure i chalk that part the most yeah i'm on palm yeah definitely after a deadlift

session i can walk up and go hey honey look and she's like that's disgusting go trim that right um so definitely uh yeah i'm definitely a painter on that one that's i'm so mad about people putting baby hey i i'm sure this is unrelated to the baby powder but i'm sure those questions that my my asshole friends put are probably pretty funny there's probably some funny story behind them i can already see here that i was told you love nickelback hinder and limp biscuit and i bet that's bullshit nope i like so hinder was my childhood favorite i do hate nickelback i hate nickelback you can't go back nobody i hate i hate but so i i love hinder yep and i'm notorious for telling people i'm like you go see hinder now it's not hinder because it's not the lead singer.

And I was pissed because the lead singer was here in Omaha. Like the original lead singer was here in Omaha by itself. And then Hinder, the band was in Aberdeen. My last year I was there and I was like, it's not the same guy. I will put any Nickelback song up again. Lips of an angel.

Like, Oh, I fucking day of the week up all night. American nightmare. Like those are my songs. I lips of an angel like oh I fucking day of the week up all night American nightmare like those are my songs I lips of an angel is nice but it's not it's not my top by them okay that that's fair Limp Bizkit I mean I probably quoted Limp Bizkit I mean it's the same quote every day

it's just one of those days like that's but I actually love it man come on Fred Durst that's all i gotta say i used to because i'm such a black label fan and for years zach wilde hated limb biscuit so i was like i guess i hate limb biscuit too but then it turns out no i don't like i finally gave the one album a listen i was like no i don't i'm i'm not falling for this shit anymore it's a good mix you know yeah um so the

thing about nickelback is everybody says they hate them but how many songs do you think you know the words to like every single one that's on my spotify playlist like i just don't like nickelback themselves well i don't know them so i can't say yeah but that's what i mean like like music snob here so like i just don't like yeah i keep saying that one song that new san quentin song that's got that it's called gent metal uh it's spelled d-j-e-n-t it's probably mother david's is gonna tell me no it's fucking not it's like d-j-e-n-t dummy or whatever like whatever is it that song's fucking metal and they have that song with dime bag right like as a metal fan you're like i hate nickelback and then suddenly nickelback starts creeping into your metal mix and you're like i hate nickelback and then something nickelback starts

creeping into your metal mix and you're like yeah what is that so one of my metal fans i think they're metal fans and they're just like no we're gonna write the stuff that sells but deep inside oh yeah definitely without a doubt i'm pretty sure he uh he's come out and said that the lead singer yeah that makes sense but um chad krieger kroger kroger yeah hero that's the only song oh hero yeah the spider-man one with the guy from saliva fuck saliva though they suck the my biggest my biggest problem with nickelback for a long time was they made um my darkest days and i fucking hated my darkest days what's my darkest days the album porn star dancing and um what's the other song i mean porn star dancing is so bad that's just it's so it's

probably so bad i don't even know it like i'm not gonna sit here and say it's so bad fan is it so bad well but there was a time where everybody thought they were making fucking edgy songs about that kind of thing right like what is that what is that one song? The Pants Around the Feet? I like that fucking song. The original version of Shit, dude. That song fucking sucks. I was like fucking 17 when I heard that song for the first time, literally.

I was like, oh, this is awesome. So you're clinging to the memory, not the actual value of the music. Exactly, yeah. That's what music is. I get that. I'll give you that. You remember a time, not a place kind of scenario. Your brain does not remember facts. It only remembers how you felt about them. Yeah.

Well, anyway, that's enough Nickelback talk for this podcast. That's enough Hinder talk, too. I'll find that, too. I've moved on. Unlike the lead singer, I have moved on which one oh that's funny the original one all right uh i did read your article no yeah yeah which is interesting because i almost don't read anything but oh thank you i had some time today and i was

going through the um the app that shall not be named and your article came up. So I did read it. So I wanted to specifically talk about deadlifts for a second. This risk, I added it to unpaid and underrated, but I think I've done enough silly talk. We can go a little lifting talk and people can join in. The risk to reward ratio thing you seem to be where i am at where it's complete and utter bullshit oh 100 talk to me about it and i give me your thoughts and feelings give me a breakdown of what you said in the article

well so like specifically about the lifts like i mean i'm going to use you as an example you go pick up rocks right like it may not be your job but like those guys you want to steal those rocks from on construction sites that's their job they pick up rocks they move them in a pile yeah like what's the first thing you do when you stand up as a child you hinge you move like why would you not i don't know like i always get into this rant about like why not add weight to all the movements that you do in your daily life make them so much easier like simple as that and sometimes when i say that in some circles i get that's starting strength i'm like is it i mean it it kind of is but we're not a cult here so we're not going to go to starting strength uh but like i can even say that i was at a i was at a party and two of the guys there

were lifters and one of them was saying that, I don't squat because it hurts. And I was like, that sounds like you need to squat more. And then he's like, well, I'm 40. I can't keep doing things that hurt. I was like,

how do you think it's going to feel when you're 60? Right. If you don't keep building and training those muscles, like don't hurt yourself. Don't throw 300 pounds on for a whim. Right. Right. But like you,

if it hurts, it's because the muscles are weak, not because they're strong. Yeah. Right. And that's kind of how i feel about deadlifts like deadlifts sounds like a west side west side right i mean it really is but and like that's my back i'm not the guy to do that thing i don't i know it's all good strength that fixed my bench yeah my squat so i don't have a lot of complaints about that but i didn't like i i stopped there i stopped at the oh this is how i should be doing this this is right we'll do this i didn't then buy into it and so like that's and that's part of the one of the things i get the most shit for in my in my powerlifting gym is i'm like so like next to me right now is every single book that westside has ever sold um but i just read it from like it's's more material and yeah, I do like, and it works

for me, it works for other people and I don't take it word for word. Yeah. And like, even that article, I sprinkled some stuff in there, but I'm just like, just do it. I don't care how you do it. Just do it. Like, it doesn't matter if you're doing 10 by three or you're doing three by 10. I don't care.

Yeah, no, I agree. And I just wanted to point that out. I did read the, I read most of the thing but that was the one that you know i actually have opinions on so i wanted to talk to you about well i had and i had to keep it pretty bland like if i get in all the nuance like then it's this is too long or our members won't like it i'm like okay well here you go i even told the guy he's like well my bench sucks and i was, then don't bench. Yeah. Like there's no scenario in your life where you are perfectly laid on a bench with your feet on the ground and blaze blaze braced where you're going to push something off of you. You're not Batman.

You're not Christian Bale in the Batman movie. Right. So if you don't have to do it, don't do it. But do pushups. Right. Well, so the big talk we get right now is like, why not to overhead press? And I'm like, OK, if we just make this so simple like you're all at that age where you either have kids or grandkids like you're going to lift your

kids above your head you're going to lift your grandkids above your head like you're going to put groceries on top of the fridge yeah i'm saying not to overhead press uh a lot of a lot of like versus bench press or in just in general in general okay bench pressing is a million percent more dangerous than fucking over the press like i oh i i absolutely hate teaching bench press it's probably my like i love teaching so i love teaching that i love bench press yeah it sucks because it's so many cues that i have to give and then they don't listen and then they get hurt and then it's my fault. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't care if I ever bench again. I just want to overhead press for a while. It's fun. Actually, I agree. I don't care if I ever bench again. It's one of those like I do it because I have to because that's the powerlifting sport and they expect you to. I'm not good at it. I'm you know, I can do body weight for reps that are that's fine.

Right. Right. Like that's a bit. I can do. I'm not a strong bencher and I only do it weight for reps that are, that's fine. Right. Right. Like that's a bill I can do. I'm not a strong bencher and I only do it because I have to it's, you know, 50% of my total is deadlift. So I'm not going to cry. Hey, I'm right there with a view. It's pretty funny. But congrats on that article.

I wanted to say that that was good. Yeah. Now when, when when when it came time to actually like sign it off on it were you debating between uh maddie ice or or matthew no i'm not allowed to put any of that kind of stuff on there i know it was no my my shoehorn a nickname in there but i know yeah i don't i've had that nickname in the past and i particularly don't like it but i wouldn't either if like well because to me Matty Ice is the douchebag with all the fucking K-tape that like falls over backwards and cries and it's just

the most obnoxious fucking human in the world. Is that the dude that fell over deadlifting and just like screams? This is probably like an 8-year-old video now. Oh, I know which one you're talking about. I saw Mike Wick and Fawad were going after some fucking dude named matt and i don't know we can't all be great i don't know people we've established this um but i do want to say uh two things

uh your mom didn't give us a ton of stuff yep but your mom fucking loves you dude yeah and that says a lot like that's all she talked about was just how great you are and how helpful you've been to her in her life uh so that's like a good takeaway for all of this is is the type of person that their mom's still fucking like i lean on him and i love him and he's helped me through so much but then we got another guy here named doug so doug sent us some stuff um i don't want to tell doug's story are you okay to tell doug's story yeah i mean he's giving me permission to tell put him all his dirty laundry out there um figuratively and literally so doug is about to turn 59 i believe it is um he is probably my biggest project at work he and i and i say that in a good way like not not like i'm there like slaving away trying to you know make his life better but just every day i go in he makes me feel better about

myself he shows me that like people will learn people want to learn people want to be strong and then also like just what like the human spirit can do which sounds really cliche but um he is he has gone through a lot in his life he was um he's on his deathbed about six months ago kidney failure organ organ failure blood poisoning diabetes just everything under the sun and currently he has cancer, he has prostate cancer

and he is now like deadlifting squatting, like squatting is his big one like that's the biggest accomplishment I've ever seen him do is like he can actually squat a safety squat bar with weight and it's to depth. And it's so impressive. And then his biggest goal was benching one 45. And he's not doing that for reps.

And part of his surgery was open heart surgery. They cracked his ribs, separated the connections in his actual chest. So all of that is being redeveloped. And it's like, that's a huge accomplishment for him and he walks in the gym like he could be feeling like shit shows up every single day probably there for too long actually i will say he is there for too long he's there for

four hours he is encouraging people and then walks up to the bar and says i'm gonna do this does it if he doesn't get it the first time he will get it by the 20th or 30th or 40th he will never quit on it um and hopefully here soon he'll be doing his first power because that's his like ultimate goal is he wants to do a full powerlifting that's incredible yeah he had a lot to say about how you you drive and push him and specifically um just you know the value of your character in helping somebody like him and you know i i didn't not bring up the thing earlier about you know the older we get the more functional we have to look at this kind of thing right he seems to see that and he gets that from you and that i just want to again point out that's amazing yeah right you know

that's there was a bit of a segue there on purpose, but it's just good work, man. And, you know, congratulations on that. Congratulations on leaving a mark on people that. And like I tell him this every day, it's all him. Like the only the only thing I will say that I'm doing is I'm doing it 100 percent for free and I just want to be there. But like, it's all him. Like, no matter what he does, it's him doing it. It's him finding that energy

i may be there yelling at him to say like you better get this weight up or you're running but like he does it and he is driving himself to do it awesome and then um the last thing is he wants to know um what about billy bob what the fuck is billy bob so uh um yeah i am i am billy bob i am billy bob because i wear a cowboy hat when i'm out in public we call that a hat yeah it's just a hat right and and uh yes i i normally i'm upstate south carolina all right stay oh i don't even know i'm gonna finish this and then I'll transition to that. I actually did want to bring that up. He calls me Billy Bob because it's a really out there hat. Like I have feathers in my hat.

I have a card in my hat. It's just, it's pretty crazy. But I've had the hat forever. So like each thing I add is just either some meaning. Yeah. Or I just think it's cool. But with the whole upstate thing,

when somebody put, I don't know who it was to put it in the discord, but said that upstate is like not a common term. It fucking is. I've heard it. Upstate New York. Like that's like the biggest upstate New York. Yeah.

Yeah. Like you always go upstate. Like even, even in Oregon, we sometimes use it. It's just like upstate. Like you're going up the state. Yeah. Yeah. I can't believe when people, okay, good.

I'm glad you finally said it yeah i i'm so familiar with that phrase i'm sure i've heard it a million times we're going upstate new york because i'm here in ontario i'm technically upstate new york in some scenarios but like pretty distinctive border right there so no i know but like it's i get it yeah i've always heard well like i shared um what would you call that? Not geographical, but like a climate with upstate New York. So, you know, you go upstate to go see the leaves turn. You go upstate because that's where all the good camping is. So I can't believe people were like, I've never heard that phrase.

That's got to be a Midwest thing where you're like upstate's different. I guess because it also is like where like what's your geographical basis so like kind of like what grant said like you're going up to the mountains right south dakota your mountains are all the way out west so you're just you're just going across the river like every time that we would hear about it's just like oh we're going to west river or something like that and you're just experiencing i'm in an area um called the green belt so the green belt is um it's a farming area that's protected right it's it's it's government protected farming land and along that is what we call a um god damn it it starts with an e escarpment yep so yeah when what happens is

it's all low land then you hit an escarpment yeah which is not high enough to be a mountain yeah it's like the appalachias yeah i guess yeah yeah it is and then it goes like just downhill to new york yeah right so we call it up the mountain this is a phrase that we use we're heading up the mountain it's not a real mountain there is there is a bit of a socioeconomic difference between up the mountain. There's just a phrase that we use. We were heading up the mountain. It's not a real mountain. There is, there is a bit of a socioeconomic difference between down the mountain and up the mountain. Well,

there isn't any more, but like, that was just a common phrase to hear around there. So when I heard that nobody's heard upstate, I was like, okay, that's like our up the mountain. Like if you lived down the mountain,

cause you grew up poor, right. You would go, I got to head up the mountain to go to the fancy mall. Yeah then we're like oh i've never heard upstate i was like oh okay that must but no like fuck that like i've heard that i swear i heard it in home alone oh yeah no but that's what i mean is like i like it's always upstate new york that's what i always hear it's always i've always heard it upstate new york so i guess like you could say it about any state but like would it apply to states like maybe texas where their climate's the

same right is like south texas the same climate no no no northern texas like no tech no texas is i from what i have been there but my buddy lived there every like 100 miles you travel it's different like because you gotta think like so yeah so the distance this uh distance from like the easternmost point to the westernmost point is further than the most northern point to canada texas is bigger than all of canada no no like so like no from the northern point of texas to canada is a shorter distance than the easternmost point of Texas to the western most point of Texas. So would they say upstate Texas? I don't know. They have some mountains, but it's just like

they use cities. They just call by the cities. Or like you're in the panhandle or you're in the horn, that kind of lingo. I'm just trying to figure out how some people have never heard of that phrase, whereas I have. So's it sounds colloquial i'm curious anyway do you have the appalachias in new york where you're at at all or do they kind of cut off there i think they die in

pa or i don't know i grew up in west virginia so i don't really pay attention when i mean they're how you pronounce it how do you mention appalachian oh appalachian i've only ever i've always i would have always appalachians until i started hearing people from there call it appalachia and i was like yeah it's appalachia i've always i've always heard it as appalachia and always been toxic yeah i definitely have an n on the end of the only joey just has the end joey hard hards it with an a and i kind of i think i have an n on it no those are different things there's Appalachia and then there's the Appalachian Mountains.

Yeah, that's where I grew up. Not the Appalachian. I don't know what the fuck Appalachia is then. Appalachia is just the region. Yeah, it's just the region. Now we're in geography. That's great. Yeah, geography talk here on Unpaid and Underrated. I'm going to hit him with a Mount Rushmore if that's okay because

we're easing into two hours here. And Daddy's got a long day tomorrow. So I'm going to do the Mount Rushmore. In a rare scenario, I had time with the notes. So that's kind of why I had a lot of the questions today. I actually read all the notes, edited them, and created the Mount Rushmore. I'm all good with my hearing keys. It's all good.

Yeah, buddy. So Mount Rushmore of energy drinks. Go. So I'm going to preface this first one. I think it's Ghost at the Top, except for that shitty-ass EDC one that you had today. I hate that one. It's the most disgusting thing in the world. I did have that today.

How'd you know? Because I saw your story. I saw your story. Yeah, I did yeah i did post that yeah yeah so edc yeah edc is disgusting fun can but um fucking trash second oh what's your favorite ghost flavor your favorite ghost any sorry obviously no i i actually really like the strawberry margarita um really mangaritas strawberry straw bangary margarita whatever yeah whatever it is yeah i really like that one um we have it at um our powerlifting gym it's like there's only two places in all of omaha you can get it it's there and then the hy-v up the street which y'all don't know what hy-v is so i know what i know that, that's been a whole thing. Yes, the HIV, you know all about it.

Okay, cool. Probably missed that one, but yeah. Bring back Bubblicious, you cowards. Oh, I'm dumb. I tell them that all the time. I'm dumb. So my number one, and I don't know why I missed this. This should have been the first in my head, White Monster.

At the end of the day, I will always... White Monster, I can never deviate from. That's the best, but that goes unspoken. Okay, so is that two? That's White Monster gum and ghost white monster is number one on the list but yes ghost and white monster um okay so that's two and yep and then bang before covid because i really yeah what the fuck that's a good call that was such a different thing before COVID yes it was completely different now it's like well I mean it could be the whole drama they had but it's

also like didn't he get arrested or something so actually he so Bang was loosely owned by the same guy that owned Redcon back before COVID he got arrested in 2019 for sneaking steroids in the thing so that's like that's part of the reason why Bang was so popular is the joke but they were sneaking steroids into

your bang no i think they just had better flavors back then no they definitely did so but like overall it tasted better like you can get the same flavors now and they taste like shit yeah absolutely pina colada 2019 greatest flavor ever um and then last one is rain without a doubt yeah which rain because i like the white gummy bear they got this new one too it's like rain storm or something or it's like sugar tropical storm tropical storm is uh well i think they created a whole new branding of storm like rain oh oh the uh they're like a nootropic one and they're yeah better for metabolism yeah the thin cans oh i don't like those ones i like the thick cans best flavor that's probably gonna be either the uh rainbow sherbert or the uh i really like the um cherry

limeade if i'm reaching for one it's gonna be the white gummy bear but that rainbow sherbert's definitely the next it's a weird taste it's like to me it tastes like coke reaching for one, it's going to be the white gummy bear, but that rainbow sherbet is definitely the next step. It's a weird taste. To me, it tastes like Coke a little bit, and then it's a little more fruity afterwards. And I also just like rainbow sherbet in general. Okay, good call. So that's our four Mount Rushmore of energy drinks.

Keith, do you have an FMK? Sure. No, I really don't. I'll move the the cursor you go ahead and ask the one i'm tapping right now okay yeah so big matt fmk michael tren arnold schwarzenegger rich piano michael, Rich Piana. Well, it's probably... FMK. It's probably F. Michael Hearn, Mary Piana.

You said... Who was the last one? Sorry. Arnold. Arnold, oh. Oh, ah. You can't... Yeah, no, Mary Arnold and Kill Piana. I mean, I really like Piana, but...

But you put a Hearn above Piana, essentially mean, I really like Piana, but... But you put O'Hearn above Piana, essentially? Yeah. Okay. So I'll do another Mount Rushmore real quick, just because we're killing a second. Mount Rushmore favorite Oregon college athletes?

Ooh, that's a good one. Number one always goes is EJ Singler for the men's basketball team. He's always been my favorite. Going back to basketball, Jonathan Lloyd. And then Mariota. Oh, Patriots.

No, he played for State. He didn't play for Oregon. Yeah, no, Patrick Chung. Yeah, he played for Oregon. No Herbert? No. play for oregon or did no no yeah no patrick chung yeah he played for oregon um no uh no no herbert like the most no uh he's not the most recent stud most recent stud place for the broncos now um space and now yeah uh shit but he wasn't yeah the fucking he wasn't at oregon when he graduated that was he he was he started auburn he started at auburn for a year and then he went to oh yeah what the fuck is his name yeah he's like 25 and he just got he was like the fourth

quarterback drafted uh can't think of his name he had really good stats yeah oh he was great but he also did a lot of checkdowns he's like the next brady but he can actually move yeah i don't think he has i don't think he has a big enough arm to actually like do he can throw it if you watch him in his early days he could throw it it's just like he didn't have the receivers that could run fast enough his name because I can't remember his name, but there was a ton of memes about how he was literally like, he just has an old man face, too. Oh, yeah.

He looks like he's 30, but he was like 24 or something. But yeah, good stuff. All right. Well, you passed that part of it. Good. One thing I did want to hit on is your favorite color apparently is tiffany blue is that a thing and there's gotta be a story there so it is a thing um damn by googling isn't it looks like it's like a powder light blue yeah so it's it's i mean so i think your

shirt's gray but it looks blue on my screen it's almost like what your shirt's gray, but it looks blue on my screen. It's almost like what your shirt looks like, but it's a little bit darker. I see it. It's a bit aqua. Yeah. Light, medium, robin egg color. Some people relate it to a diamond color, almost, but it's also

slightly off. No, I mean, honestly, if you look at what I wear, I normally wear red, so it's kind of transitioned to red, but that's also a little slightly off. Yeah. No, I mean, honestly, if you look at what I wear, I normally wear red, so it's kind of transitioned to red, but that's also because, you know, being a part of all this, I kind of have to wear red, so... A little bit. Unveiled and unrated.

Glaze orange. Well, if I could get a glaze orange shirt, then I would wear a glaze orange shirt. We'll get Tanner right on that with the blanks all right you want to move into unpaid and underrated you want to go first so big matt we have this game we like to play it's called unpaid or underrated so i know your uh your mom is listening um funny story there matt's mom was kind of hounding us for like a live link she wanted to listen to the podcast live uh we didn't get a chance to get that to happen so we are sorry about that ma'am well

but it will be available on tuesday when you're listening so unpaid or underrated uh similar to overrated and underrated but it's significantly better because it's unpaid or underrated so uh you know obviously if you uh like it we're gonna to go with underrated. And if it stinks, you go overrated. So we crossed half of these out. So let's see. Oh, okay. Unpaid or underrated Tim McGraw. Sorry, say it one more time.

Wait, wait, wait. I totally lost the rules because you were mixing words. Did I butcher him? Yeah, a little bit. Unpaid is not a huge fan. Underrated is more people should like it. Oh, yeah. No, he's totally unpaid screw tim mcgraw that concert was that was so bad i grew up on him and it was it was bad so yeah i don't know how i had to feel about like current like 60 year old tim mcgraw still acting like he's like 30 with his leather pants and shit oh no like so he's so like i was expecting

going in i was like oh cool it's tim mcgraw he's like edgy country like not outlaw but poppy but like also like fuck the government like that kind of shit no yeah he was super like super progressive tim mcgraw and i was like i don't think i could name a tim mcgraw song oh yeah don't take the yeah what's my favorite. That was my favorite song. That was one of my first experiences to a music video. Was that 1993 or 1994 probably?

Was it released after Garth Brooks' No Fences? No, before. That was before? Isn't No Fences like 96? I'm not going to look that up I don't really listen to a lot of

pop country at all Is Garth Brooks pop country? Absolutely I put him up there with Meatloaf This shit's so theatrical and over the top I love it, don't get me wrong

I'll put that up there any day of the week oof alright big man no you disagree that's such a I can't believe I said that I put up the Garth Brooks and Meatloaf for the same level

that's a great uh person I love that one does Meatloaf have anything other than that one song? Who? Meatloaf? Meatloaf? They got some songs. Do you want to fucking tell me? I know like one Meatloaf. Everybody knows one.

I will say they all... Meatloaf is the same level as Nickelback. A lot of them sound the same, but it's also the genre of music. If you gave me 20 Metallica songs, I'm probably going to say 15 of them sound the same but it's also like the genre music like if you gave me like 20 metallica songs i'm probably gonna say like 15 of them are the same yeah but it's slightly different to me right yeah meatloaf the thing is is because the his his writer wrote show tune and that's where the half of that shit it's got such over the top piano over the top. Yeah. Right. So,

but two out of three ain't bad. Incredible song. You've got, um, paradise by the dashboard light. Fucking dope song. Um, I would do anything for love.

He's got some decent, but like, yeah, it's just over the top. Yeah, really? i don't want to have to work out to meatloaf so we gotta we gotta figure out another song yes yeah i can't wait for you to lift that lift lift to two out of three i'll tell you what so i get a lot of shit in my gym because i listen to uh savaton one song and it's um i can't think of the name i gotta look it

up i i was at the i was at the king of the north and i was like this is a really good song give me hype last stand yep don't know it that's fun yep that's the most popular song by sabaton and uh i was like this is really good it's it's striking my my metal side it's striking my christian side and it's just hitting so that's dope sabaton that's funny anyway all right number two matt unpaid or underrated let's go with tiktok i know you're a big tiktok guy unpaid but mine's underrated that's no right in the line i need a you have to decide if the overall tiktok is you know you gotta yeah i need to know yeah i know i gotcha it's definitely unpaid right now i i can't i can't stand being

on it i see so many redcon ads and i just can't do it i just can't it's hard like i got i get on once a month and i feel like when i got on most recently i couldn't see content for like two minutes because just fucking ads yeah i don't i don't remember ever being that like ad is is it ads or is it like the targeted like buy for my shop i guess both sponsored posts yeah and then they're sponsored posts and some of the some of the ads i'll get a kick out of because i'll read the comments like it's like one of those games that's like fake uh yeah fake content i'm like oh this is really funny like comments i can't wait and i picked that up from lori lori will literally go to the comments of every video and i just

started doing it i'm like this is why tiktok's fun like it's not the video it's just seeing what everybody says underneath it the tiktok algorithm is so goddamn precise and that's the oh it is it's so precise that like you watch a cat video and you're like hey that was pretty funny but then suddenly all your ads are cat food and you have cat videos constantly and you're like okay show me something else and then you see one like slightly political post and they're like oh you love politics buddy and like it's like your eyes were on the screen for this amount of time yeah that's kind of scary right like it's kind of insane and it's probably the i'll probably delete tech talk pretty soon because i don't think i've posted anything in

months so i'll say this i think tiktok's algorithm for sending you stuff i like it better because it's based on what i like not what i watch because when i go to facebook like i could have said something in a conversation five weeks ago about like, I want to buy a squat bar. And granted, I'm already in that like realm, but I get like thousands of ads from bells of steel, thousands of ads from Titan. And it's like,

okay, I get it. But like, you checked out some Olympic bars on Facebook marketplace. Here's a bunch of ads for brand new ones. Right? Yeah. I wish marketplace just fucking algorithm was better.

I want to only see the shit I want to see. I don't want to see all this other shit. When you come out here... Oh, did you guys see the York Place that I posted on from Facebook out here? They're $135. You get two of them. They're milled. A lady here posted some

deep dish York Plates for $75, and I messaged her and I was like I want them and then she's like well somebody else already reached out I'll let you know by tonight but I already gone to bed and she's already got up in the morning these are still posted and I've been telling Tanner I'm like hey do you want these

I mean at one if they're just milled like they're really worth like a dollar to a dollar 50 but it's yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't pay more than a dollar a pound I built all my Mild Collection pay on like fifty cents a pound pre-COVID pre-COVID keyword

yeah alright so we got an answer on that one so my last one out of this bunch I'm going to go unpaid or underrated lifting or training to country music unpaid or underrated lifting or training to country music unpaid or underrated underrated i and i only say that because like i know what you listen to i watch your videos and you have like cody jinx on and like that that's the kind of music that gets me going now i'm not going to

go out and listen to like dan and shay lifting i mean i't listen to Dan and Shay in general, but yeah. Some good old outlaw country. Great. Absolutely. Good answer. Alright, I'm going to switch it over to my co-host there. Let him bring it home. If I'm going to put any country music on during lifting, it's going to be Hank 3. I can't do it.

It's too hard for me. I will say this, and it's a weird way my music has gone. When it comes to the Hank line, I did not go Hank 3. I went Hank Sr., Hank Jr., and then I went Sam Williams. So I went Hank Sr., skipped

Hank Jr., went right into Hank 3. That's right. Junior, he's got, what, Tearing My Beer and the fucking NFL theme. I love Family tradition. What? Wait, wait, hold on.

I love family tradition. That's true, but it's not lifting music. No. Tearing My Beer is a Hank Senior song. It is. I think they did it. Hank Junior. No, no, no, no.

Yeah, but I think more people know it for Hank Senior. I'm of the age where I heard it first. Okay, but you're right. That is definitely an original of his, but I know it from him. I know it from senior, so. Yeah, my introduction to Hank, all of the Hanks would have been in my dad's old or my grandpa's old fucking Chevy listening to 8-Tracks when my mom was like, go live with your grandparents for two weeks while we go traveling. Right. And I was just, yeah, okay.

No, you're right there. So even even but that actually kind of says i was even more right i like a lot less hank jr songs than i thought i did but family tradition is an all right one but it's i like that i like that hard style yeah like no i get it fighting drinking drugs outlaw style more than i like the so i liked i liked sam williams just because it was like more hurt music who is sam williams in reference to hank williams it's hank it's hank jr's son okay he's okay i just i never yeah direct bloodline um he's just more of a like it's kind of poppy but it's it's still got twang like he has a um it's called i

think deep water is one of the songs and it's really like it's twangy i like i feel like i'm out in like louisiana out in the bayou just listening to music so i would say keith if you're the hank three that i introduced you to would have probably been straight to hell go back and listen to Rise and Outlaw right if you can go back to Rise and Outlaw I think you would find some stuff you would like by Hank 3 because that was when they signed him based on him being Hank's kid

or Hank's grandkid and was like you go do this sound and he kind of did what they told him still great music not true to him but still incredible like outlaw country as far as i'm concerned nice anyway we'll move on unpaid or underrated crossfit unpaid fuck crossfit fuck crossfit oh my god like don't get me wrong, I know some pretty strong CrossFitters, and I will give all of them

their flowers, but no. No, no, no. Not at all. I had originally put together an FMK of... No, I commented on your Facebook. Yes, you did. The top three lifts are Kips. Yeah, yeah.

Was it Kips, Cleans, and more kips yeah steve my buddy steve has a joke about doing kip up deadlifts he's just like let's crossfit this let's do kip up deadlifts today yeah that was pretty funny yeah fuck like let's set yourself up for spinal failure let's go kip straight into deadlift yeah oh gosh i don't have a lot of patience for crossfit but i don't know much about it i mean like if you're gonna if you're gonna use it um to get in shape and like do it like don't get me wrong like end of the day i just want you to be strong and fit yeah exactly if it gets you under the barbell fucking go bud yeah just don't come over here and tell me that it's better than powerlifting or strongman like don't and that's that's definitely where i kind of crossed the line where i think one

of the first times i've even heard about crossfit was some dude was like somebody was doing four plate deadlifts right and then the first comment was some crossfit coach that was like i got guys that do this for reps you guys are weak weak. Reps where it's literally going. Yeah. You're doing it up to the bottom of your shins. Oh yeah. You're bouncing them. Those are RDLs.

Those aren't, those aren't real deadlifts. I'm not coming from a dead position. Well, I'll tell you what, if you're doing, if you're doing RDL with four plates, like it's so impressive. So,

as long as you're not bouncing, if you're not bouncing it, at least like if you're taking it down mid chin, the backup, like now they're doing it sumo and lifting it three inches and screaming with straps.

Okay, unpaid or underrated. Or sexual. Anyone knows you're going to get in there. All of them. Nice. What, I got two more? Yes. Alright. As many as you want. Unpaid or underrated backseat driving. Okay, I just got to ask. Is this me or is this just in general?

Like me doing it? No, no. I understand that somebody does it to you and you hate it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So somebody's doing it to me. It's definitely unpaid. But if it's me in the back, it's underrated. You sound like my brother.

Like if I'm driving and you're going to kill us I'm going to say something so you're a walking contradiction buddy no no actually you know what I got exactly like my brother so my brother he pretty much drives for a living he drives all over southern Ontario doing his job and if you're driving with him you can't

fucking tell him anything don't tell him there's a deer coming don't tell him how to signal but if he's sitting next to you he's going to you the direct route in your face right and you're just like you take you so i get i get where you're coming from on that one no i i will say though like universally even when i do it like it's something it's unpaid like i probably shouldn't be doing it but yeah but i'm gonna yeah speaking of that um speaking of my brother i love my brother his name is greg and paul dwyer did a video this morning did you guys happen to see that i did not and i normally see his videos when they come out so he's reading the comments and he goes he goes greg and he goes

fucking craigs and i was like i'm gonna make that my ringtone it's just the look on his face just pure like fucking craigs i was like oh i sent it to my brother i recorded it and clipped it and sent it to him because you know i love my brother now your brother's not a twin right no only you have hidden twins yeah gosh and apparently mad cow might too but all right so last but not least unpaid or underrated moccasins Yeah, gosh. And apparently Mad Cow might too, but... All right. So last but not least, unpaid or underrated, moccasins. I'm curious to see where this question came from, because I think I know.

But definitely, definitely underrated. And I say that because I wear the... My daily shoe is the Barefoot Oso's. Yeah, Oso's which are basically moccasins but they're so comfortable they're great my first pair ripped so they sent me a new one so shout out barefoot shoes but

those moccasins are great and then don't mini tonkas are even better but I don't wear those so I do fucking love my barefoot shoes I have three pairs and can't wait for my And then mini Tonkas are even better, but I don't wear those. I do fucking love my barefoot shoes. I have three pairs and can't wait for my next one.

They just really figured it out. I have another pair from another company. You can get a $50 pair off Amazon. $45. $40 pair. I bought two pairs of barefoots. I bought the high-top black suede and then the low top gray suede. And actually, I gave the gray ones to Doug, but I spent $40 for two pairs. Like almost brand new.

Okay. Well, I didn't. Okay. For me up in Canada, they're $200 shoes. Yeah. So get them up here. It's kind of hard. But like on Amazon, you can get these like not the barefoot brand, but the barefoot version.

They're called like Vivio or something. And they're. Yeah. Like you can get these like not the barefoot brand but the barefoot like version they're called like vivio or something and they're yeah like you can get cheaper versions of oh yeah no i get what you're saying air e b a r e yeah right low drop yeah wide toe you can get those but the barefoot brand from north dakota they look good. They feel good. They're, you know, I was in a puddle today and they didn't seep through. Right. Yeah. Right.

Like they just figured it out and hopefully former, former guests or future guests, sorry, hopefully future guests on unpaid and underrated. They just released that they are doing an American made the patriot bruins which are going to be handmade in america using american leather so you know heads up to everybody on that one code massonomics on that but yeah good call you passed on paid underrated um also huge huge minimum tie get the shoe horn do you have a shoe spotter i call it just so you don't have to bend

over entire shoes so i'll leave them a little loose yeah i don't so i have the the collab and those are my lifting shoes only i don't tie them if you watch my videos they're just completely flared out and i'm like i can't care yeah i can't care i don't care i don't care to bend down and they're tight already so we're good yeah absolutely am i i i tried doing a uh a heavy carry in them the other day on concrete i can't do that like that i felt like i was gonna break my foot like my wife was sloshing around at him like so my only experience with like i you know i squat i squat and bench in in uh squat bench and press and do stones and stuff and my squint and my Addie power squat shoes. And then I'll, we'll, uh, basically I'll maybe they're barefoot or Crocs for most things. And

then, uh, I'm, I've been dead lifting pretty much regularly with the, uh, the barefoot shoes. Um, but I tried doing it cause I'm trying to figure out my, my, my gym bag for fucking for Aberdeen, what I'm taking. And I'm like, well, what shoe am I going to do the carry in and I was like well I've just been on it in my fucking I have like a pair of like hiking shoes basically that live in the garage to cut grass so I don't have to take them in and out of the house they just live in the garage and

so I've been using those and they've been great and I was like let me try the barefoot shoes and I was like nope can't do it so I gotta figure out what I'm actually bringing out but they're great for what I use it for they just were not great for that i was gonna swipe up on that store or not swipe up i was gonna comment on that story um and one i was gonna say dbap if you know what that acronym means and then i was also gonna say just buy yourself some bruins so dbap is don't be a pussy like well i wasn't i wasn't tuck it out, so I am allowed to complain. No, but the other side of it was

get some Bruins. I was talking to Big Ben at the King of the North, and he swears by those. He does all the strongman in those. His are ripped up a little bit, but from what I hear, they're great. They're thick, supportive. I've never tried to wear my barefoot shoes like just out in the town like like i don't know like i wouldn't i haven't i because i i like i like having nice clean shoes when i work out so i don't really want to like walk around the sidewalks if it's like shitty out and then just to experiment if i want to like buy another pair of barefoot shoes to actually

like go barefoot shoot so i don't know that i'm a barefoot like out out and about guy but i'm definitely all deadlifting barefoot shoes to the point that i'm like i've got two because i'm a very very cd so when i find something i like i buy multiples of it typically so i had i have two exact pair of wrestling shoes like like one that i've worn for 10 years to deadlift in and then i bought a backup like five years ago that's still literally in the box and now they're both useless to me because now that I realize how fucking fat and wide my shoe, my foot is, trying to put that in a fucking wrestling shoe. I'll never do that again. So basically I have $100 worth of wrestling

shoes I'm just going to throw away basically because I'm always going to deadlift in my barefoot shoes the rest of my life at this point. Sounds like you should go buy the new pair. Just buy the bullet and buy the pair. I will say I've had ingrown toenail problems my entire adult life and now the barefoot shoes absolutely gave him a chance to spread out i do wear barefoot shoes in my life

and it's funny speaking of my brother he looked at me he's like those are for lifting you shouldn't be wearing those out in the world and i was like i get that a lot i'm only gonna wear those out in the world i never want to wear real life shoes again right right um my question keith do you have to wear shoes to do strongman no i mean i i you might not you they might let you barefoot deadlift or deadlift barefoot but yeah like i'm not fucking running on con i'm not running on the concrete in the od ice arena that's going to be hot as fucking hell in barefoot and also i'm not i'm going to be i'm going to be lifting barefoot is it is it indoors I thought you guys were going back outdoors. No, we're inside.

I think someone else thought we were outside too. Goat heads in your feet. How about DBAP, buddy? Do it. I think you passed on paid underrated and sparked some really

interesting conversation there around barefoot shoes. Again, huge barefoot proponent. Glad you are too. I'll add one more plug. I dropped the 45 pound plate on my foot wearing the Osos. No damage. I had a little bit of bruising, but no

overall damage. No cuts, no nothing? Nope, nothing. No bloody toe. Strong shoes. They really figured out their A little bit of bruising, but no overall damage. No cuts, no nothing? Nope, nothing. No bloody toe? Yep. Strong shoes. Yeah, they really figured out their product over there. I think the next step then is, what do you have for us, if anything at all? I have two questions. One for each of you.

So, I'm going to start with Keith, because his is a little bit easier. So, fuck, marry, kill. For strongman, we got log, shield carry, and axle. Ooh, okay. So killing the carry 100%. Fuck any kind of carry. Ooh, that's fucking tough. Logger, axle.

I don't even think I can answer that oh okay i i disagree i would i'd probably marry that carry i fucking love carrying heavy stuff so i i knew i could ask this because i kind of dabble in the log and the axle so i don't even know like i like because i'm i'm a little bit i'm a hair better at Axel, I think. But like, it's because I did it for six months before I really got into log. But what feels better, Keith? What do you enjoy doing?

What triggers those endorphins that you're just like, that was so fun, even if it was a slow wait? I'm going to marry Axel because I can do Axel year round in the basement and I don't have, and I could do Axel because I can do Axel year-round in the basement and I don't have and I could do Axel like I could yeah I'm gonna marry Axel I'm gonna fuck Log because Log's awesome but I also Log beats the shit out of you like yes I if you don't have like I literally have fucking a pussy pad on my fucking Log to keep my forearms from getting destroyed and I don't regret it because

like I it was it was like I don't need to hurt my fucking forearms because i'm too stupid to put a little piece of foam on my my axe on my on my log that is so yeah i that was very very tough that might be the toughest fmk is well the decay was super easy because i just suck at carrying and picking shit up but the it was definitely one of the hardest uh fucker marys so yeah i can't wait for you to pick up your first natural stone. I have yet to do that. Oh, I can't. I can't wait until you're presented with some big ass fucking rock.

And you're just like, yeah, I bet I could lift that. Because I can guarantee that'll change your view on carries. It's so much fun. One of my best friends and former co-workers is moving up north canada a lot of rocks a lot of rocks up there and i guess her partner turned to her and looked at some of the rocks and went do you think joey could lift those and i was like that's a good legacy like could joey lift the big rocks i i i can wait. I think that's going to do something for you different. If you're anything like me in that Nero spicy realm,

where just that's a good rock. I want to go pick up that rock. I want to see it. I'll bring my rock to you. Did you see the Bush League fucking bag over bar I did yesterday with the... Oh, God. That was waiting for it to just completely with the setup oh yeah i was waiting i was so bad then you took the weight off and i was like

i feel like that's gonna make it worse no i i went from it being a legitimate because the axe it was like an axle with like 100 pounds on it or whatever and it was like caving in the fucking pads so then i took that off and then i just put up a fucking broomstick handle and i was like so then worst case like i'm not gonna like nothing's gonna fall on me if my if my fucking axle starts rolling towards me like they could like take me out mid fucking worst case you knock over a broomstick yeah so i thought that was a better idea but yeah that was uh i've been having fun with the sandbags i've been doing a lot of research because those aren't those are those are borrowed sandbags so i'm like all right don't want to stick with sybaris or go rogue or like? I'm going way into the weeds of like –

I have some chance. Yeah, I've looked at his, but I don't know. I like the idea of being able to do a 25-pound increment and his were only 50. But then a lot of them don't have – but then it's like the perfect bag that I want. I want it to have the weight stated on the bag, and I want it to have 25-pound increments. And I really can't find that. Everything either is in like weird increments. Did you look at that one that we have?

That means... Yeah, the Integra. Inclusive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's an option. Yeah, it's an option, but I kind of want to be able to do a 150, a 175, a 200, a 225. I think that would be perfect for me.

I'm able to go... L's of Steel has it on sale right now. 175, a 200, and a 225. I think that would be perfect for me. I mean, but L's of Steel has it on sale right now. That's true. We'll see. I got that Inuksuk bag coming I think in the next two or three days. It's shaped like an Inuit Inuksuk rock. It's essentially a husufel.

Oh, yeah, yeah. You tuck your arms under and lift it. Yeah, people had to change the name from husufel mock sandbag because Rogue was suing everyone that and lift it yeah people had to like change the name from like husafelt mock sandbag because rogue was suing everyone that was making something because they had a they literally copyrighted and fucking patented like a joke for you no i don't i don't think that's what happened here it's actually in the shape of the so there's a rock formation that people build well the inuksuk people used to build the inuits and it would be like it's shaped like a person and it was meant to show

you the way back to your village so if you got lost on the beaches or in the tundra if you saw that it would be pointing you the way so they built a sandbag in that shape and i have one of those coming i've got the 150 i think that's going to be a bit more fun to carry than a bag because getting that bag and you're 100 pounds or my other bag is 150 of pea gravel and you're over the top and you're just trying to run with it like it fucking sucks but I'm in.

I'm in. Code Tim 10 or Sam 10. Alright. Alright. So my question for Joey is going to be who is the true American hero out of these individuals? We got Hulk Hogan, Jack Swagger, Kurt Perkangle. So not just regular Kurt, Kurt Perkangle or Cody Rhodes.

I want to hear more about Kurt Perkangle. You don't know about Perk Angle? No, I do. I just want to know why that's different than the American Olympic gold medal winner, Kurt Angle, who won an American gold medal with a broken neck. Broken neck, yeah. I mean, Perk Angle had a broken neck and was slamming people and climbing across the X's in tna and wwe yeah it

was percocet angle is that where you're going with yes yes the poor man was very very addicted yeah it's not cody road okay just want to make sure i just threw it in there because you know american nightmare so i actually i love cody roads and i appreciate everything he's done for the business since being fired for the worst gimmick ever. He wasn't fired for that gimmick. I think under Vince McMahon, they had no clue what to do with talent. Vince McMahon. I just want to make sure we're talking about are we talking about dashing?

No, we're talking about Stardust. OK, I just want to make sure. Yeah, yeah. Remember what the name of the fucking Goldust knockoff was. Because anytime he didn't have makeup on, he was still technically dashing Cody Rhodes. Goldust, probably one of the best characters ever made. Really bothered a lot of people. Really, I think, was the introduction to the Attitude Era that people don't give credit for.

Wasn't he on... Was Goldust started in WCW? Or is he... Okay. I don't believe. I was trying to think if that's the video i saw here recently saying that he started there but no gold dust was um no he was the america he was the american standard when he was wrestling yeah yeah dust and roads yeah they natural yeah natural called him the natural yeah um so it's not cody rhodes as much as cody rhodes is a kid favorite right now there's always kid favorites there's always going to be john cena there's always going to be him there's going to be roman reigns there's always going to be the kid favorites it's not him um it's probably not perk angle because by that time he had lost the american gimmick right and he had simply gone to a comedy

gimmick uh it's definitely fucking not jack swagger that dude couldn't cut a promo to save his life i don't know is that a newer guy like no it's like i threw him in because he was like the ultimate mid card like he was great for like in the ring performance he just yeah he could not cut a promo to save his life stuttering like calling the people out like i think didn't he have a he had a bit for the u.s title against evan bourne and like evan bourne was so over the top at that point that it was like well they they tried to really i gotta watch what i say here because you know i don't want to bother anybody i think they they tried to make him a version of america that people see from other countries and don't like yes but i the we are the people guy yes and then just would

hate mexicans like that was literally the angle that i had with him for like a year yeah because we hate anybody they may not like us they made a racist like and that's not like that's not like that is wrestling let's not pretend that's oh yeah no definitely without a doubt but i don't think that is what he should have been because he's actually out of all three of those guys probably the best wrestler if you go like he actually he didn't win an olympic gold medal but yeah i was gonna say we're trying to double a's then yeah yeah three time right yep yep and if you look at his in-ring work dude yeah no fucking amazing so i is go ahead i was gonna say i think the one they tried to do that bit the racist bit and then they also tried to do the like second coming of kurt angle like we can't get kurt angle because he's on tNA. So here we go.

Guy in a singlet that has American flags and coming out, doing pushups and acting stupid. Like it just didn't work. So it's probably gonna be Hulk Hogan. Okay. Because he, and then I think for argument's sake, Lex Luger replaced him, right?

With the steel forearm and the, I think Lex Luger kind of replaced hulk hogan as mr america because hulk hogan turned heel to go to nwo but i think if you look at those four people you named i've got to go with kurt angle i mean the obvious answer is john cena that guy had the had the best US title reign in ever. When he came out with the Open Challenges. Yeah, can't argue. John Cena's also an okay dude. More Make-A-Wish Foundation. The USO tour,

all that stuff. Yeah, it's gonna be John Cena. I gotcha. I wanted to leave him out because he portrays it, but then it's like, okay, he's a good guy. But like his character was built for that once he like developed himself. So, yeah.

But no, but I mean, so was Hulk Hogan. Yeah. Like Hulk Hogan ended up being like. You can't say canceled because he still has a fucking career, but like he ended up being sidelined for a little while for saying dumb shit, which I don't think you're ever going to see John Cena do. No. Because John Cena's a politician. Yeah. I mean, he is.

Yeah, no, 100%. No, I wouldn't even doubt seeing him at some point when he gets 50 or 60. Is he 50 now? He's close to 50, yeah. Yeah, so when he gets to that age, like 55, 60, I could see him running for some type of office. Yeah. And I think Cody Rhodes will as well. Yeah. I think we'll see that out of Cody Rhodes as well. Or Cody Rhodes will wrestle

himself into the ground. He only has two scenarios. I could see him falling back into production a little bit. Or like trying to do another AEW branch off. But,

you know what I mean? Like, yeah, don't do it, but hey. Please don't. Adam Copeland's tearing it up.

Woo, childhood. Just like powerlifting, wrestling needs more federation. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely,

with different rules. Hey, okay. Our ring's gonna have eight sides. Don't act like New Japan wasn't great when they was everybody. Yeah, New Japan was better than anything coming out of the States for years and years. ECW, again, best thing coming out of anything.

Like, the start of Heel, Cody Rhodes. Switchblade Mafia, was that out of there, or was that out of the states that would have been john moxley's thing no no no switch oh is that when he was with because then he appeared on like two episodes of impact and he's trying to start that i thought oh i i don't i don't even know i yeah my brain is i for tna for tna i can never keep it in check where it's TNA or it's Impact or it's Hollywood Hogan's Wrestling Federation. Yeah, a lot of those melded into the background for a while. Anyway, bring back ECW and cancel everybody else. Yep.

Get Joe Hendry on the main card, that's what I say. I fucking love Joe Hendry, he's so ridiculous. I would say his name, but Keith wouldn't play into the meme if there is a silly goose in wrestling it's Joe Hendry if there is a guy that we should probably get into the massonomics crew in professional wrestling

it's Joe Hendry he creates entire songs he'll do entire covers of songs just ripping into his opponents great it's a fun time. He is definitely over the top. Ridiculous. And I'm a huge fan. Oh, okay. I'm a mid-card fan.

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