Unpaid And Underrated - 068 : The Paywall

Episode Date: August 27, 2024

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Joey said this podcast is more serious, but we've lit or more silly and we've literally had people cry on this podcast. So I don't know what he's talking about. That's true. Jen got us good on that one. I have 100% cried on this podcast before. Welcome everybody to episode 35 pound plate of the unpaid and underrated podcast, a podcast by crew for crew and relentlessly mocked by crew featuring this week, a special guest. Keith, how you doing buddy? Howdy, howdy. I'm good. And we are also joined by their big, big, big, big technical guy, Nate.

And then Nate can introduce our guest if he wants. Yes. Just keep passing the buck. We'll go around the horn. I just want to let you know the current price of Bitcoin is $60,695.80. We're joined. And you might say, why, Nathan, why would you mention the the price of bitcoin well i would like to introduce none other than the uh big grant the bitcoin aficionado the man

the myth the legend the man of iron plates uh i should have wrote some more stuff down i didn't know i was going to intro grant uh i'm just the technical guy. I think that got it all right. Just tons of Bitcoins over here. I can't even breathe. I'm surrounded by so many coins. And I just want to let everyone know we do not provide financial advice on this podcast. No, nothing. Nice. Thanks for having me. Welcome, welcome. Well, let's kick it off with the old standby. What are you drinking over there tonight grant uh i got my wife's got me on these yetis you know she's like very yeah she's very anti uh stanley so i got some some good ice water here and then i have uh this

morning's leftover coffee so uh it's a little little zing and zang going on nothing nothing better at nine o'clock like some stale coffee huh yeah you know i'm gonna gotta keep things going all coffee's good coffee i guess in some worlds yeah something like that uh i've got my non-alcoholic in us again to start i think that's going to be a habit going forward i'll have a beer at some point during the podcast but we're going to start i think that's going to be a habit going forward i'll have a beer at some point during the podcast but we're going to start with the non-alcoholic in us i've got a roll got a little waterloo grape i don't know that i've had this one big fan tasting pretty good nah man it's good it's honestly one of the closest to like tasting like a grape like with the soda

variation of it so waterloo grape would definitely give it a decent rating. Like purple grape? Kool-Aid grape? Yeah, purple. Like the strong and silly pint that you can never... It's fitting now because the purple can will never come out of the purple koozie. It's like a glove. You got anything over there, Nate? I'm just

drinking some water out of my O'alla no stanleys no yetis here just the the trendy owalla just wanted to say i was on the trend before it was a trend just to get that out that's right but i got all kinds of stickers on it too just like grant i just got hooked up with this sick sticker look at it it reflects in the light oh yeah nice porch light coffee shout out to those guys. Akron, Ohio. Get down there.

I've never heard of that in my life. I don't know what a Nuala is. Nuala? I thought you were going to say Akron. No, I know what Akron is. Who knows what Akron is? He's a big basketball guy. Big basketball guy.

The Zips, right? Yeah, yeah. No, LeBron James is what I was going for there. Well, I know, but the Akron is the zips aren't like the actual college yeah we'll get that we'll get to college sports college sports when we get the guest on um don't worry don't worry nate clean clean it up in post yeah we'll clean this up in post um jeez i'll keep the zips yeah yeah the huge football team that is the akron zips um roll zips no the owala it's uh it's like a multi-purpose water bottle because you gotta you can suck and chug out of the same hole yeah one of my co-workers had that

is there any tickling involved no i I told him that was too much. I was like, that's too many things for one cup. You can't have that. No, because when I'm rocking, I got like a sling bag, like a hipster. And so I can kind of just like finagle it out just a little bit and kind of slurp on it and then slide it back in. No one knows the difference. You don't have to like. Wait, is that like, is that, is that your dad bag?

Yeah. I got my sling bag too, guy, when I fish. Like some people do vest, I do the sling bag. Yes. It's like everything's behind you and then you sling it around when you need to do something. Is that what that is? Yeah. I've been big on the, uh, big on the sling bags lately.

Uh, I wanted to be a fanny pack guy, but I just didn't have the balls for it. Um, so I moved on to sling. I got mocked a lot at church because I, my like go-to backpacks, like a 20 liter bag, and I would just take only my ipad so i'd have like a five millimeter ipad and a 20 liter backpack and so i can i've always wondered why backpacks are it's like people act like you carry water in them i don't think anyone's ever carried fluid in them but we measure it in liters. What's volumetric? I mean, that sounds un-American to me. Oh, touche, touche, touche.

I want to know how many ounces are in your backpack, sir. Yeah, that's right. But yeah, so I have a 9 liter Bellroy. I forget which one it is, but yeah, it's great. Love the sling life. Love the O'Walla. I just can't fathom a world where

a sling is more appropriate than a I don't know a uh a fanny pack like what made your decision on that that's just uh I don't know what do you mean appropriate like so so you said you didn't have the balls for a you said you didn't have the balls for a fanny pack any the fanny pack and lifting community I feel is very uh accepted whereas you're wearing like in the lift in the lifting so i figured out pretty recently like having like when you when you wear a fanny pack 24 7 and you just fill it with shit right because your keys go in there and your wallet goes in

there then eventually everything else goes in there it just starts to like hurt like it just starts to rub on your genitals constantly so now i see a lot of people wearing them around their side. And at that point, just get a sling pack if you're going to do that. Either commit to the dick rub, I guess I have to say it. Commit to the rub

or buy a sling pack. Wearing a fanny pack over your shoulder is, it kind of feels like quitting to me. Like, just get something else. I don't know me like just get something else i don't know just carry less shit i don't know no no no i'm a dad that you can't do that you don't get to carry less shit yeah there's so much stuff oh i feel like that's controversial i feel like everybody went quiet there all right yeah well keith also wears like cargo shorts so he's got he wears nothing but cargo shorts that's all i own i don't care that's all i own is cargo shorts do you have terawait do you have those ones

where you get to unzip the bottom so that i had a pair of the shorts i had a pair of those in high school i think but no not in the last 20 years uh i just wear the same cargo pants uh every day at work and they're just perfect i can fit so much shit in my pockets. I haven't sat on a wallet in like 10 years. My wallet makes it. Neither have I. And I don't wear cargo pants. Just put it in my front pocket. My legs are too big to put shit in my front pocket.

I don't know about all that. Oh, yeah. What's it like having small legs, Nate, you tiny bastard? Giant legs. We've bored Grant already. We're 20 minutes in What are you guys wearing? What's everybody wearing for tonight's podcast?

Cargo shorts Cargo shirts I'm wearing tear away cargo pants So you can zip off the bottom half below the knees I don't know I'm wearing my Marine Corps t-shirt Godfather battery It's a 50-50 blank American apparel, or excuse me, Los Angeles apparel. He's got a nice shirt on.

Got a little Stranko shirt on that I got from, I think you guys gave those out, Arnold 2023. Yeah, that's right. You should have said you just were wearing a Str coat shirt then i would have thought you bought it yeah no you're a customer i was i was hanging out for free while i bought a pair of 40 to a 1.25 pound plates so you know amongst my 4 000 pounds of milled york plates there is one pair of strength co plates yeah something can balance it out. Yeah, the only good plates he's gotten is Jim. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying, Nate. That's what I'm saying. I've got my

beefy tea. They went back on sale today, restocked. I bought that today in a new color. I bought it immediately actually. That's my favorite shirt by a large margin. It's not even close. I like the ones that

Keith's wearing. I like the oversized. Yeah, I think I've worn that shirt more than I've ever worn a Masonomics tee. Yeah, so I bought it in, what is it, charcoal? Whatever. It's darker. Yeah, they call it a light brown or a dark gray, basically.

They kind of commented on both of it on Today's live yeah i'm an owner and nate uh i'm wearing my curls t-shirt um because i couldn't find my strength co shirt for tonight um sounds like you need more and a preach um and then uh i got my i do have a some pseudo strength co-merch got my red lift hard live easy hat this sold i uh speaking of customers i purchased this from the hands of uh one big grant at the arnold remember that cold hard cash cold hard cash actually like right before arnold walks by Yeah. You might say. Yeah. I probably brought him by. He's heard about the hats, the piping.

Yeah. You were buying the hat. We were doing a cash transaction and like the sea was parting. I was like, what's happening? And then Arnold walked by. Yeah. You can thank me. Yeah.

Yeah. Thank you. You're welcome. No, I do have a strength. Go. Don't wear our cat shirt. Just happened to not be wearing that right now i'm actually shocked you don't have that one that should be the one you have i i should have bought it in aberdeen but i just i don't know i didn't i feel like i gave like none of the vendors

any attention at aberdeen i was just so overwhelmed you don't give anybody attention in aberdeen that's the ongoing joke i'm i, you know, Rude Keith, you prick. That's what you do. Mean Joey, Rude Keith, and whatever the heck Nate is. Yeah. Christian. Unavailable. Christian Nate. Take that. It's conflict.

Feature not bug. You guys want to rate last week's Massonomics episode, which was the truth about the apparel? Yeah. The gym apparel. Yeah. The gym world. I listened to it. I enjoyed it. I think I even hinted to it last week when I was trying to rate last

week's episode, I was getting them mixed up with the one before, but yeah, kind of, you know, reiterate anything I said last week about it. Uh, just the fact that they're still in business is awesome.

Um, I know they kind of had to obviously, uh, I wouldn't say pivot, but you know, having the supporting membership has kind of supplemented,, I wouldn't say pivot, but you know, having the supporting membership has kind of supplemented, you know, t-shirt dipping, you know, dips in the sales and stuff. So having our huge community, it's, it's, it's a boon for us to boon for them.

I think it's, it's just awesome that we built this all together. You know, glad they're still around. A lot of the people that I knew that they were hitting that, that kind of went out of business. I don't know that I was really purchasers of their products prior to. So, I mean, it, I don't know that it hurts or helps my personal life, but I mean, I guess it sucks that people are getting out of the, you know, lifting community apparel. And I don't know, but if, if, if all you're doing was selling shirts and you weren't doing anything else whatsoever to help your business, was it really a business? I don't know, but, uh, all in all, go ahead and give it a five out of five,

uh, uh, strength of cats. Oh, nice. Those are my favorite kind of cats. Uh, buy them.

Don't buy those. Don't buy those cats. They're not, they're not for sale. You can't buy them, but they're nice if you own them. So I see a couple of cats at some point. I hope so.

I definitely listened to the episode, got through all of it. It was great. Um, can't say I remember much because again, I usually listen to while I'm driving. Um, I do think,

I think I say usually to a drunk. No, God, no, no. Okay. I'm not driving. Yeah.

Driving the other thing. I'm either one or the other, one or the other, never one at the same time. Never both at the same time never both yeah um so like i kind of agree with keith i think it does suck that like some companies are getting out of the game but i do uh kind of agree that nobody's done it like they did i think that the uh supporting memberships was a a huge thing they did uh putting a discord behind a paywall

was kind of unheard of before they did it. And if anybody did it before that, they didn't do it as well. I saw Nate give me a bit of a thing there, but nobody's done it. Nobody's done it as good as him. I don't know if... They're just not the first ever

online community that you have to pay to get into. Yeah, I'm gonna go with nate on that one the first one i've been willing to invest in listen wendler's been doing it for years so i mean who wendler who the fuck is wendler previous guest on the uh i almost said the unpaid and under a podcast i was gonna say he was on here i mean yeah we get everybody if he wasn't on here i I don't know who he is. He's got some big names.

What, has he got some followers or something? I don't know who that guy is. He's a coach. He's a coach, yeah. You've never heard of 531? No, I'm kidding. It's a running joke. I pretend it's not.

He's not kidding. It is a running joke, but 75% of the times he doesn't know who we're talking about yeah yeah no i know jim wedler is i i listened to the episode it was a psychotic episode so uh i'm gonna give that um five three one i like that yeah is there an order here? there is no order this whole podcast is out of order there is no order

it's like a Romans 1 Romans 1 baby I'm with you Grant's like he's used to his own podcast he's used to the Masonomics podcast and he comes on here and we're just psychotic idiots like we yeah it's alright He's used to the pod in the massonomics podcast and he comes on here and we're just psychotic idiots.

Like we, yeah. Um, it's okay. But, uh, yeah, it's,

uh, it was a wild, wild listen. Um, always, uh, getting a behind the scenes, look at any sort of business and, and the strategy and such is,

is always interesting. You, you might look back to the first episode Grant was ever on, on the Mastodonics podcast that featured a huge amount of the backstory of whoever that guy is and what it took to start a plate company and yada, yada. And everyone always says that was super interesting. So the fact that they brought it back and brought it inside behind the meat curtains, as Tanner would say, uh,

was, was quite exciting. Um, but yeah, I mean, I don't know. I give it five out of five, uh, USA made 50,

50 tri-blend, uh, t-shirts. We can't be 50, 50 and tri-blend. Listen, because if you're 50, 50,

you're two materials. If you're tri-blend, you're three, but I, but I, but I like 50 try we're not big math around here yeah you're not big man okay okay fair fair uh i actually listened to all of it um i was driving back with my wife now i laugh okay cool i figured someone would do that but uh no she actually was like half asleep you know eight months pregnant and uh she was chuckling to i'm getting off topic for the apparel uh part of the episode but she was chuckling with tanner talking about you know his

his wife coming home and like you know he loves his kids but how crazy it was and i was just kind of like laughing as i was driving because i'm like out of two hours of this poor misery I put her through where she listens to like two white guys in their 30s talk about life like that was like she like perked up during that and like had like a good chuckle she's like oh Taylor's such a nice guy and so she she enjoyed that and then I thought the apparel thing was interesting I I particularly thought, not to just crap on everyone, but I thought that Get Better Today going away was actually the most interesting to me.

The other brands that they mentioned, yeah, it all makes sense. I mean, selling apparel is hard. I always say we sell a decent amount of apparel, but we only sell apparel because people like our plates. And so then they buy apparel, right? I've never just done apparel. But I thought the Get Better Today one was interesting

because I've been to LA Apparel, where we get all our blanks from. The owner and his old CEO used to train at the gym. And so I've been in there a lot. And I remember watching Get Better Today, Russell Ray's stuff, and just looking at the size of the warehouse and thinking,

this is literally what it feels like when I walk into LA Apparel, right? Who's manufacturing t-shirts. They provide for the company that we won't say their name. They provide for tons of people. And I remember watching Get Better Today stuff. I was like, this is so many shirts, man. This guy's killing it. And then he was doing celebrity meetups, shows.

We're rocking apparel. Come by and see us in miami and uh yeah actually when when tanner said that i i had no idea that that was gone but um no i think i think making money off of clothing only is difficult especially in the fitness space i think that i won't't go as far as Joey and say that the Mathonomics guys are the first people to ever put anything behind a paywall, but I definitely think expanding beyond just one median was smart for them. I'd give them five bitcoins.

Great episode. Speaking of the Get Better brand, I just looked it up. You can buy their domain right now. Should we? Right here on the podcast. The cost is one-sixth of a Bitcoin right now. So I'll let you make that decision.

Are you looking at the betterbrand.com? Yeah. $11,995 for you, not Bitcoin types. Cheap. Pencil to paper. Not last you, not Bitcoin types. Yeah. Ooh. Cheap. I mean, even, I think- Pencil to paper. Not last week, the week before, even-

That definitely cost more than orangeglaze.com. Even Barefoot was saying like- Orangeglaze.com. When I told Barefoot I had one of their shirts, they were like, oh, you're the one. Right? I think they made that joke there. Like, yeah, it's definitely not an easy thing. And then, you know, putting the things behind the paywall

you know they weren't the first but maybe they were the best sorry sorry i misspoke you dicks no it was great everybody comes after me the whole episode first people to ever charge money for anything he gets it i think they were the first business that's ever existed honestly um but like i was watching this thing today from some gym up here in Canada, and they were doing your top fitness apparel, and it was all the same, like Gymshark, Young LA, and it was all these things that I don't think I'd ever wear if you paid. Wait, is that how you say it, Young LA?

I don't know. I've always said Youngla. I didn't want to get made fun of for saying Youngla. To be honest, I would say Youngla. I think it's Young LA. I have a friend we could phone on that one if we need answers. Ronnie? Coleman type?

No, no, no. I know he wears it. Some other folks, less famous folks. That's actually a funny part about that. That's actually those blanks for the heavy tees. That's Elliot Perl. That's the same shirt that Keith's wearing right now. Same blank.

Yep. Looky there. Learn something new every day. Every day. A lot of blank talk. A lot of blank talk. And that could just mean there's nothing of content, or it could mean that we're talking about shirts. It's to tell yeah uh we always have good content here uh i'll give a

quick little uh weight loss update anyone listening i've uh you know i'm actually super interested in this so i started when i saw that as a topic i was like so it's just it's just um you know i've i've i've struggled with weight or you know my most of my adult life i've been as little as 190 and as big as 260 uh i'm kind of at the top end right now. And about, you know, when they did their, when Tommy did the macro factor episode two weeks ago, it was just a combination of like, I literally couldn't fit into my pants to go to like a family event. And I had to like fricking wear, obviously my, my, my, my, my, my, my cargo shorts to a thing where I wanted to wear pants. So, uh, that a couple other things. And then that episode coming out Sunday night. And I was like, man, I'm just going to start tracking again.

And I've been about three years since I religiously tracked. And I was just, you know, I'm, I'm about a week and a half in it now and down five pounds. So, uh, I'm going to stick with it for,

you know, as long as I can healthily do it, uh, mentally, you know, I've got some. So, so,

so the light ship is one 90, the heaviest is two 60. What are you right now? Uh, two 255 okay yeah yeah yeah no yeah i straight i straight up i'd like just got very uncomfortable and unhappy with my weight and i just uh you know not to get i had some issues with within within it with an ed and i just didn't really feel comfortable tracking for a few years and kind of in a mental place now like like, all right, I can do this healthy. Let's do it. Nice.

Nice. Nice. So I'm stoked. That's cool. So five pounds. Down five. I like it. Keep it up.

I'm telling you the secret is get addicted to nicotine pouches. Yeah. Yeah. Because I've lost five pounds in three weeks because I just started doing these so often. I don't eat that often. So apparently, yeah, that's, that's the thing. But actually the alternative is like I mentioned last week, the opposite is I'm going to start doing the opposite of you is making sure

I'm tracking to eat more. Do you buy the protein yet? No, I'm not going to buy it. So easy. It's literally, I love this. I have a protein powder. It's a big thing. Yeah.

But do you, do you make, yeah, it's a big thing that makes up, and it's a pain in the ass, and you probably don't do it very often, do you? Not as often as I should. Or you can grab the Fairlife bottle and boom, 30 grams of protein. Still tastes like shit. I mean, one of the great things about Mastinomics, they were the first people to put a Discord behind a paywall, and if you go on there, they'll just tell you to drink your Fairlife.

Yeah. Just do it, man. Pay the $5. It's the first people. It's the go-mad. you got to do the go mad right the gallon of milk a day you want to gain some weight do the go mad massonomics came up with that too that's it you know if you're if you guys you guys might not have known this but i heard they were actually on part of the original development team for discord itself i did hear

that tommy d creative tomm Tommy Discord creative. Not to go over to your top there, Nate, but I actually heard that they were with Al Gore when the internet was created. I've heard that as well. Yeah, they're way ahead of everyone's time. I don't know anything. Little known facts, little known facts.

Speaking of the Discord, we had a moment momentous occasion uh this week in the discord that i just wanted to take a moment to highlight um but buddy my buddy tom he joined the discord he's a supporting member now yeah um so that's huge maybe we will finally get to tom um maybe not we'll never we'll never know um we'll get to hear we'll get to hear more about him later um but one important thing was when i told tanner to give him a shout out on the podcast um i i went back and read the message you didn't ask him you just straight up told him yes that's true and he listens as he should yeah um yeah kind of like when you told them to put the Discord behind a paywall for the first time.

That's exactly it. That's good. I love it. But I had told him to give him a shout out because Tom had had their second kid and the shout out was supposed to be congratulating him on the new addition to the family,

their second child. And Tanner just said you should join the crew and just skipped over that but i read the message i wasn't super clear on that so i just wanted to say that here congrats tom maybe someday uh you'll make it on the unpaid and underrated podcast we'll get to know you but segue from that something that happened yeah something had happened recently where a friend of mine who is not a listener to the podcast, not a listener

to the Masonomics podcast I heard podcast podcast He's from Wisconsin had just randomly sent me a clip to where I was telling a story about him and I was like, how did you stumble upon this

from the Unpaid and Unrated podcast? And I said, how the heck did you find this? He's like, someone sent this to me. So immediately I messaged Tom and I was like, did you send this to him? And he said, no. And so one, Tom, you need to start listening to this podcast because you came out flat out and said you weren't listening. So that's a problem. But two, we have a mole among us that has connections to this podcast and to my friend, which there is no connection. I don't know how he got the clip of me talking about him. I didn't say his name.

So we have a mole here of some sort that we'll need to get sorted out. You know, Leonard Skinner said it best in the song, Things Going On. There's things going on that we don't know. And Nate, you and I have had a little connection on this. So back to the song of the summer, or let's bring up the song of the summer. You know, I love the song of the summer, talks about Stranko plates. And like, I don't want to beat it to death, but like actually a good song, right? Until you listen to it 5,000 times like I like i have like at first it was a good song and so i sent

it to my brother that's the president of home depot and i just sent it to him and i don't say anything and he writes back um nate nathan eckberg meets nashville and and it was like a deep cut. And I thought, oh, Nate made this. Like, Mastodon's guys didn't. This came from crew. And he just, like, pumped it to them. And then they published it. So I tell Nate, I'm like, hey, man, like, when did you write the song?

Nate doesn't write it back. And so then I'm talking to Tommy. And I'm like, he's like, yeah, I'm a modern day Bob Dylan. I'm like, well, it's not you. It's Nate. like he's like yeah I'm a modern day Bob Dylan I'm like well it's not you it's Nate and he's like what are you talking about and I'm like no like I know you didn't make the song Nate made the song and he's like no dude I fed AI every part of that song and I'm thinking in my head like no you didn't like my brother obviously like clicked Spotify on his computer and he's smart like found like

some kind of history and so then nathan's like i didn't write it like i didn't i have nothing to do with it and i'll never know how the person at home depot even knows your name nate but he does and uh i haven't asked him yet he's a busy guy but i'm i just still don't believe that any of this is real. It's all real. I was like, like, you made me the a hundred pound plate that spins, right?

You've made me some different, like, you know, memes or whatever. So I'm like, Oh, Nate made this song. And then Tommy's like, no,

I made the song. And I don't know how that song gets traced back to you. That's my brother. Definitely doesn't know you apparently he does no the joke is Nathan is watching all of us and that's how he made that one video

but Grant's brother's watching you yeah that's deep apparently he is had a customer experience online at Home Depot. So shout out to the SVP.

Yeah. Or whatever VP. Some sort of VP, right? I forget his title. Yeah, he's the POO, President of Online. You know, I heard that Masonomics may have invented that position. Yes. What's funny is

for my company, I'm also the president of online. I'm also the CEO. I also do customer service. I also clean the bathroom. My brother and I are the same. Yeah, you're the same. You both are big fans of five-gallon buckets. Yeah,

true. Can I pop us in and we'll do the next ad read grant do you have something for us now this is yeah this is a canadian this is called zonic it's a zonic what's that sonic except it sucks no no they're a little softer they hurt my gums less. Like you. My wee gums. So this is where I do the Massonomics ad read. Yeah, if you got one. Well, do I have one or can I make one? Just make one.

Tell us why you love Tanner and Tommy and their paywall. Yeah, so my favorite thing about Massonomics.com is one, they're like kind of on the cutting edge. You think Lewis and Clark, which paved their way through south dakota you think of the presidents up in mount rushmore you think of people that are doing things that never been done and like for me you know in 2021 when i joined i was looking for french you know the government had kind of shut

me down i couldn't do anything and they created a paywall for a discord which had never been done I couldn't do anything. And they created a paywall for a Discord, which had never been done. And I was able to join that as a supporting member for a low price and get in there and interact with my friends, bots, talking back to me. But the nice thing is, like, the bots talk to you, but people do too. So I'm a big fan. But I got to say, out of Mastanomics, like, Tanner and Tommy are great. But I'm always, I like to talk about maybe Simmerine and me, but the unsung heroes. And the unsung heroes are definitely, you know, Leah and Mary and the kids.

And so, you know, behind every good business, there's women supporting it. So, yeah, big shout out to Mastanomics. If you're not a supporting member, hey, man, this is the time to go to Mastanomics.com. Click on the make a dessert button. There must be a button. Yeah, slash join and sign up. And don't go for $2. Every day, no matter what you buy, someone flips an iPad screen to you and they say,

just answer a couple questions for me real quick. And what I would say to you is when you go to Massanomics, click the highest amount. The next time someone gives you an iPad screen, click zero. And if you put pen to paper, you're almost saving money. So yeah, mastanomics.com slash join. Well done. How did it do? Grant, would you say that Mastanomics gets rid of the red tape that exists in the apparel company? It really do. They really do. They really do.

They're real people, right? Yeah, they're real people. They're warm bodies. You know, it's like when you call, someone answers. And, you know, my brother once sent me, the president of online for Home Depot, the POO, sent me a customer service complaint. And it was a prior Air Force guy. He said, I'm emailing you because I want to get to

the belly button of the issue. And then he complained about buying a 2x4. And to this day, my brother and I will always be like, ah, the belly button of the issue. And I say about Mastodonics, do you want to get to the belly button of the issue? There's two guys to call and they will fix it.

Now, sinceanner likes to give out your number uh you know on his podcast did you want to give out his number on our podcast yeah no no here we go i'm just anybody that already has it it was just uh yeah that was i always get it i'm assuming the number he gives out has to just be like a google phone number right it can't be it's not like are you like a work line it's just uh yeah it's uh we use a company called open phone oh yeah we have a couple oh yeah yeah but yeah i was like there's no way he's doxing you and giving out your fucking cell phone i mean i doxed myself grant will just dox himself but i actually i'm actually still offended this was behind a paywall

well yeah i was behind a paywall and i thought crew was family so i'm like how can you even call this doxing like this is like like nathan nathan where's my baby gift i'm a little surprised nothing showed up from you mike you deleted the address before i could save it my address has been posted in discord many a time and i've uh so far i've only got one bag of dicks so but i did that's true yeah yeah i did get a bag of dicks we ever figure out who that came from no no that's that's either nate or the davids you got a joey pillow too don't forget about that well i'm yeah but that was like i've i've only got one anonymous gift somehow less offensive several crew gifts that i do appreciate

all the crew gifts that i've known about but Yeah, that's even better than the pillow. I just showed up to his house. Alright. Carp, you might have to bail, buddy. Yeah, we're going to kick all those lookies out. Keith, what have you been doing? Aren't you supposed to kick the looky-loos out? Yep, yep. Dan and Woosh, they're all gone. Yep, that was easy. Alright.

I think he's still here. Uh-oh. Yeah, well. As soon as I figure out how to use Zoom's paywall, he's out of here. Big Grant, is that you? Yeah, it's me. It's this part of the show. Welcome to Unpaid and Underrated. You are live.

We're not going to do any intros. We're going to dive right in and make sure we don't miss any gold. And I think I do have one big question. and it might have been answered on one of the times you were on podcasts uh massonomics podcast which is what twice or thrice thrice yeah you're thrice all right but i'm gonna ask the question for all of us which are crew members is how did you even find massonomics how did you find the crew uh how did you find um the paywall yeah um and i don't think i've actually ever talked about this with them but i was going to be on mark ripito's podcast in may of 20 and i don't know nathan maybe knows or maybe

keith who was on whose podcast first was they were i believe they were on whose podcast first they were on Rips I believe they were on Rips so they were on Rips and I don't know when that was I just know that I call him Ricky his name's Rusty but I notoriously mix people's names up so I'll just call him Ricky was as

we were sitting down the podcast and like testing mics he's like hey I talked to the Mastanomics guys and I can't remember if it was they're coming on or you're coming on like i don't remember which was the truth uh but he's like they're good for whatever day and rip's like all right and i was thinking in my head oh massonomics like i've seen that like i've seen that and so i finished that podcast a rip and i remember going back and thinking about them and pulling it up and i was following them which i didn't know i was and uh and i was like oh this is cool and so i just messaged starting strength it's run by a guy named pete and i said hey do you have an address for these guys? And he's like, yeah.

And he sent it to me. And so having never talked to them, never interacted with their account, he sends me an address. And I send them two T-shirts and two hats that make America strong again hats. I send them a blue one and a red one. And if you go back, if you've listened to 400 episodes, if you're actually a supporting member, like if I heard this. And it was just funny now, like knowing them, like how much they don't want to talk politics they were like there's a blue one and a red one but both of them are kind of like uh and uh so they had a moment and then they replied back and were like hey that was awesome thanks and that's kind of when i

started following them um and then we made that video of how to make a 35 um 10 at the quarter that was great one of the greatest one of the greatest yeah so we did that well maybe june of 20 and uh hey you know i kind of like i had i had massonomic stuff all over it and so i think it's kind of like this has happened in my business where it's like wow these people really like my company why you know and so they they were like hey come on the podcast um so that's how i found them and then i'll always say like you can never recreate the first podcast because i literally didn't know them like i listened to like maybe three episodes but i wasn't like hardcore crew like i didn't know all the jokes and the first episode was like i think it was so fun because it was just it was just like getting to know guys

that are like-minded and that like lifting but yeah that's that's my story nice just a bunch of guys being dudes yeah just a bunch of guys being dudes and it's been a hell of a time since yeah it kind of has actually yep i i met you i think at the at the arnold 2023 i think it was the first time i knew did you go and did you go in two no maybe didn't i know i've only been to two so i was at 2024 and 2023 okay okay i met you the first one but yeah and it was incredible again i mentioned that barefoot and treated me amazing. And then I met you and you were just like, you're Massonomics crew, let's go. And like me, you, Jonathan Oldham. And like, we just had a hell of a time drinking beer.

We did. And weights. And it was like we already knew each other. That's all I do things I know, actually. Yeah. Less than drinking. Yep. And it was so fun because like, I just walked up with a strength going like hey

and i had a massonomic shirt and and and the tattoo and you were like hey what a beer and we're just like kicked it off immediately same thing this year same thing at the lift hard live easy and it's like yeah they really brought us together on that one and uh it's been really awesome it's funny like the uh their power and i mean even the other like people similar in the space like huck finn people but it's like i'm at the booth and i won't tell you what we spend on the booth but it's not cheap right like it's no way to change you're there and like you're constantly like fencing people out like like the whole weekend you're like fencing people out. Like, like the whole weekend, you're like fencing people out. If you want to come close, like give us your email, you know, scan this QR code, do this.

But like, if you see a massonomics t-shirt, you're like, I have no idea who this person is. Oh yeah, you're good. Yeah. Come on in. And that's, and that's how you were with me. It was amazing. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. No, it's, it's cool. And then everyone that you let in with that is awesome. And not only do they like come in and hang out, but they're like, what can I do to help? Like, that's what you did, Nate, the first year. Like, you came up with, like, what can I do to help? And I was like, I don't know. That was a very surreal moment for me because I had never been around any of, like, anything

massonomics. Very overwhelmed by the Arnold in general. economics, very overwhelmed by the Arnold general, just like, you know, typical nerd, dude, introvert, doesn't know how to like communicate with people. And I walk up to Grant, I'm like, Hey, what do I need to do? And you're like, Oh, just come like, sit back here with all of us. And like, there's like a live stream going on and I'm just like sitting in the back on the cooler and Grant's like, what's up, dude? And I'm like, I don't know what's going on right now.

To make you feel any better as the president of online, I don't know what's going on right now. To make you feel any better as the president of online, I didn't know what was going on either. I think the first year I was loading on the deadlift platform, like guys were just walking up and they were like, can I lift that? I turned to Ron and I'm like, can we change the weights? And he's like, well, I'm not gonna. And then I was like, well, then I'm gonna. And I was just helping dudes learn how to deadlift. And then you jumped in. Like it was a, it was an amazing time. So definitely fit right in.

It's really fun. So we're going to do this at the end, but I want to do it at the beginning. Does anybody not know who Grant is? What is your discord name? Your IGN? Where do we find you on Instagram? If you want people to find your personal, if not, send them to the business. I'm very bad at Discord. I'm on one, I'm actually on three, but the only one I check is Masonomics.

And I had a name on there and then I wanted it to be Big Grant because it was like something else. And then, so I went in and whatever I changed it to, to like be Masonomics friendly is my name on everything and i think it's big grant tsc like i didn't change like the handle in the space like i changed like the whole thing yeah you have to change the server discord you have to change your like you have a main one and then you have your server specific one nathan's laughing at me

oh i also i'm also bad at that I was Big Joey On everything forever And then like Yeah People in like My local city Were just like Why are you Big Joey And I was like

Come fucking deadlift And find out Like Yeah that's right That's right But I'm a Big Grant TSC On Discord

I don't know Strength Co. Instagram The Strength Co. Website's obviously Cool The only thing I would say Like my personal Instagram GP Brogy as like me and my wife doing stuff The only social media thing that I would say I actively do

That's like connected to business is my ex account like I post a lot of coffee like pretty much every morning I post all my lifts. I don't know it feels a little well better doing it there than on Instagram shown like mediocre deadlifts and like pretty much every morning. I post all my lifts. I don't know. It feels a little, well, better doing it there than on Instagram showing like mediocre deadlifts. And, uh, and if I always tell people, if you want coaching advice,

you know, from a starting strength coach, some people are into it. Some people aren't, but I'm like, Hey, if you post it publicly on X and tag me, I'll tell you what I think.

Uh, but yeah, I'm, I'm grant SSC over there. Uh, but yeah, outside of that, just go to the website by place.

But we will get to that. Heath, you're up. I've been talking too much. So that's where they find you online. Recently, I think well knew anybody that's familiar with you from Mathematics World News, you were in California. Now you're back in upstate South Carolina. Is that obviously being in the military to you? Have you been all over?

Essentially, the question is, where do you live? Where are you from? Where have you been? Yeah, so I live in the upstate right now. I'm from the Lowcountry. I was just there visiting my mom for her 66th birthday this last weekend.

I'm from the Lowcountry of the South. My family's all from Boston, so that's why I like Boston sports. But if you zoom out, I identify as a South Carolinian, and I like Boston stuff. But I lived 12 years of my adult life in California. That's where I did most of the stuff due to the Marine Corps. So I spent a long time out there. I'm in the reserves right now, deploying next year, which is a nice wrinkle to life.

But yeah, right now we're here. And I would say, you know, we'll go back and my training for the deployment will be in California. So I'm taking the whole family back there. That's where my wife will be while I'm gone. But I think long term, you see us in the southeast but as nathan would totally understand man makes the plans god directs his steps uh like i have no idea you know like i have no idea where i'll be two years from now but i can tell you i will either be in southern california south carolina or south dakota i only i only like states that start south

those are my three options yeah or south or South or Southie Boston. That one, that one could be. Yeah. It's close enough. That's cool. Yeah. People, people, people always like to hear where people are from and you know, it's that one little extra level of like, oh, I have that connection with, you know, person X, Y, Z. And just as the, so at this whole point of the podcast, that's what the whole thing we created this for. So when people meet up in person, people will know each other a little better so that's our gist here uh is there yep so you know we a little behind the the unpaid and underrated curtain uh keith joey and i at we we had worked on a special system to collect information on our guests um that's all coagulated into one giant pile of information that we then take and present to the listeners and the guest um for review and we did receive one piece of information and it's up to you you know we can edit this in post um but there was apparently something about your hometown that you don't want anyone to know um and i just i just want to know

if you want to come clean now or so you're using you're using hometown very loosely like if you want to drill down on this subject which i will do is that where you got your hat i think is the main question yeah yeah no no in south carolina we wear hats i mean nate you gotta like this is this isn't this isn't cnn tell me what you want to ask ask me brother i just i just want to know were you born in texas i was i was yeah i was born in texas i was born in texas at baylor hospital uh my parents moved me and i think 13 months to south carolina and um been back to texas a bunch more than I'd like. Don't like it. I think their

barbecues, I think their barbecue sucks. They think they're like hardcore Americans but like they're only good on paper. But yeah. Big Trey from the OK podcast used to roast me when we were lieutenants together because

I would always change my bio because like you know someone above you will make your bio and be like you know lieutenant whatever your rank is grant brogie was born in texas and i would always change it to was raised in south carolina and so that's what that's what nate's referring to and maybe maybe someone filmed that out in the forum but I was born in Texas. What I always say is Mexico. That's probably why I married a Mexican.

It's closer to home. History. That's great. It did kind of say he wouldn't admit to it. They said that in the notes. Yeah. No, I used to not admit to it. That happened. You had no control. You don't want to be burdened or whatever by what has been or something hey man brother i don't want

to be unburdened by what has been well if that's one thing you might be a little bit embarrassed about let's get to something you're pretty proud of and that'd be your hall of fame status i want to i want to hear what that is especially as of now yep current yeah so i so i checked that off in the pre do you guys air the pre-show or is everything we talked about before not on once this airs it's official so it doesn't matter no no he made the chitter before yeah the chitter before i think it's no damn it as soon as i came on i grabbed my pen i put it in the paper, and I crossed off. That is a 13. That won't be on there. Number 13.

All right. Nice. Yeah. So I have three to go. So 13 out of 16. I'll read you the three. Attend Crew Falls. Seven.

Supporting member four years, which I think I hit in October of this year. So I'm close to that one. And then 11 is the contest price winner. And I, I have no idea. Like, it's like, I don't like, I also didn't know if I owned a piece of band merchandise. And then Tanner was like, send me a photo of everything you own. He's like, yep, that's banned. And I was like send me a photo of everything you own he's like yep that's banned and I was like oh okay um so I don't I don't know if I've been a contest winner I feel like being on

this podcast is a contest that Tanner Tanner's pretty strict on that one like it's got to be like a massonomics like legitimate like where they pick winners not just like a random draw or or like some lifting competition or something has to be like something that you did or created and then were picked. Yeah, I don't think so. So basically, if I go to, and I doubt I'll ever be picked, you know, not that I'm awesome or amazing, but I bet if my name came up,

they'd just go to the next guy. They'd be like, ah, Grant, he's on the podcast too much. So I actually, the odds of me going to Crew Falls are higher than being a contest winner. And what's the other one here? A sporting member for seven years, you can't stop time, right? Or for four years, number seven for four years. So, yeah, I guess, you know, if I can make it to Sioux Falls, Crew Falls this December, I could get a jacket is the way I see it.

Crew Falls was fun. I went last year. It was definitely, well, the wife surprised me with it. Crew Falls was fun. I went, I went last year. It was definitely, it, well, the wife surprised me with it. It was like a, it was like a surprise anniversary present.

And she just, I opened it up and it was just like a plane ticket, a first class plane ticket. Dude, she's a, she, she's a keeper. Yeah.

She just wanted a weekend alone. So it kind of worked out. How much does it cost me to get rid of you for a weekend? But pricing it out this year when it's something I'm paying out of pocket or, know it's coming out of like my slush fund it's like oh man do i really want to spend a thousand dollars for that it was definitely awesome yes i don't regret doing it but i'm like i'm 50 50 i gotta make a decision in the next month if i'm gonna go or not because i need i have to i need like two months notice at work to kind of take any time off so where are you uh upstate new york if you will but more western we'll call it upstate are you are you? Upstate New York, if you will, but more western New York. We'll call it upstate.

Are you close to Watertown? Yeah, when you were in Fort Drum, I think I texted you. Yeah, I'm about to be there for all of September. That's funny. We might actually meet up then because I'll be in Glover's. I'll be in Watertown in two weeks, I think. Maybe I'll have to check the dates. Three weeks from now, I'm staying in Watertown for a whole week. I think.

It should come out and visit the artillery line. That'd be sick. Yeah. Can give you like a VIP experience. Come out, watch us shoot artillery. I think I'll, I'll probably be in the field working from like seven to five every day,

but I've anything in the evening, but are the worst case. Go ahead. I love that you called the field. That's what we call it when we shoot artillery. I remember, I remember moving to California. I was like a young lieutenant. You're all pumped up, jacks full of testosterone and everything.

And we're out at the bars, pre-wife. And I meet someone and I'm like, yeah, I can't. I'm going to the field next week. And I remember the girl looked at me and she goes, are you a farmer? And I'm like, no no i'm a marine and she's like well what field are you going to i was like and i just remember thinking like oh that is a very weird way to describe yeah i don't work in a field either i just i go into i go i go to customers homes and provide a uh an energy efficiency service, but it's just a quote-unquote field technician. Yeah, I get it. Cool.

The field. The field is not behind a paywall, at least. We have that going for us. Man, I got it. Every time I hear the word paywall, I think of Lewis and Clark. I think of Pocahontas. People doing groundbreaking things.

I say, Masonomics putting discord behind a paywall. Like mind blowing to me. Just mind, like, I can't believe they were the first to do it. I love those guys. So speaking of the sister podcast, is there a one thing that they currently don't make that you wish you had gotten your hands on? Masonomics is the sister in this scenario.

There are, there are, there are little sisters. And the okay podcast is our cousin podcast. It's the family. Cousins. Kissing cousins is not a thing. No, I'm from the South. Whoa. One thing I wish I could get my hands on.

I kind of wish I had my hands on some of the original shorts. What was before? So the first pair of shorts i bought were the ones where you pulled out the pocket and there was the dollar bills inside was that the 2.0 that's three points three two that was three point oh who were the ones or the the sweat style yeah and then what was the first was that just like black champions yeah just the champions with the lift load that's what i can't sell anymore because, you know, Ronnie. Yeah, that's what I wish I had.

Especially with the red shorts. They'll hate me for plugging this because I'm plugging something that's out of stock. I hate when people do that with my company. It's like, oh, you're talking about my company? Talk about the one thing that we can't sell you right now. But the red shorts, the red shorts. Man, I love those things. things the new ones the squat ones yeah i wear them all the time me too yeah my my drawstring fell out i threw that away actually

there was some drawstring talk behind the paper today too okay i loved it i loved it in tanner's truck and uh nothing weird happened but let's just wear it but uh but i love those shorts and it's so funny because like if i wear them with an oversized t-shirt my wife's like you're gonna go out into town looking like you're going to bed and i'm like no no i'm just really comfortable so she's like like, if you're going to wear the shorts, you have to wear like a better t-shirt. Um, but yeah, those things, I love them. I, they're, that's actually that and the shirt that Joey's wearing hands down. I mean, like I wear other stuff because I support, but honestly, a lot of the t-shirts are like tight in my armpits and I'm not like, I don't mean it as a knock, but like, I just personally am not a huge fan.

Like I want to be comfortable for the shirt Joey's wearing and those shorts, hands down my favorite mass, uh, products. And I wish I had their original black champion lift shorts. I actually, um, changed in the parking lot at work, like a psychopath. Um, that's normal. Yeah. Well, I was wearing like dress pants and a dress shirt and then it was 25 degrees and i was like yeah hell no and i remember throwing shorts in the car this morning it was like 6 30 in the morning so i was only half paying attention and i was actually bummed that it wasn't those shorts when i pulled

out the shorts they were i was like i was walking to the car going oh i can't wait to put on those squat shorts this is going to be fantastic. And then pulled out some other shorts still nice and comfortable, but I was just like, damn it. I was really hoping it was those red shorts. Yeah. Yeah. They're going to restock those. I think that's their blank going forward and those just have different designs, but yeah, it's the blank, but I don't, I don't know if the squats logo might not be coming back at least not anytime

soon, but I'm sure. For the U S listeners, 25 degrees is 75 degrees fahrenheit i don't know what joey's talking about what are you talking about 25 when would when what how many winters ago was this now i get it he was talking in celsius thank you apparently thank you Nate. I was like, changing in the parking lot in 25 degrees is insane. To put shorts on. I was in a pool.

Come on. Good stuff. Real quick, so Big Carp is still here. We're just going to let him hang out. Yeah, absolutely. Shout out Big Carp is still here. We're just going to let him hang out. Yeah, absolutely. Shout out Big Carp. This is the crew podcast.

The whole joke is we're going to kick people off like they do on their podcast. But you don't. Yeah, I don't have the time or patience for that. This is the crew podcast. Anybody can join. There's been times where Tanner will join halfway through or another. That's true.

Dodds will join halfway through or another Dodds. So much when you let him in. Yeah. Dodds will join and start having conversations with us. It's just kind of, this is the crew podcast. Okay. Out of 400 people,

they're all allowed to join. So screw around. You might be familiar with it, but, um, John Piper once wrote a book, brother, we're not professionals.

Yeah. Big job. John Piper. And, uh, that's, that's our, we're not professionals, brother, brother. We're not professional. Yeah. We try to love me some John Piper. We try our best to put on a good going on an hour.

Keys hit him with least fun. Most fun. All right. All right. Big grant. We have this game. We like to play. It's called least fun. Most fun.

I'm gonna give you one topic and just tell me the least fun thing about it. And the most fun thing about it. Uh, so I got a couple to pick from. I'm not really sure which one I want to go with. Okay. So least fun, most fun, being a starting strength coach. The least fun thing about it and the most fun thing about it. In that order? Either or. However you want to shoot it. Okay. We'll just go the way it goes. Least fun. Least fun is people come in for coaching

and they think that you're going to fix some technique thing that is going to make them not have to work harder. And most of them are fine, right? Like, yeah, maybe there's some knee slide. Maybe the bar position's off. But I'm like, dude,'s some knee slide, like maybe maybe the bar positions off, but I'm like, dude, you're fine. Add more weight to the bar. And so I think the least fun thing is people, they think that you're gonna be like, well, if you push your knees out like this, you'll

add 100 pounds to your squat. And it's like, nah, brother, like, yeah, you gotta pay your dues. I think it's the least fun. And like, especially in the gym in California, you know, we'll do like once a month, the camp and it'll be like, we mess with the price and that's $50, sometimes $75. But like usually talk to a starting training coach is $200 for a session. So it's all it's always reduced. And the goal is like, he's a member of the gym. He wants to get his wife, his mother, his coworker to come to the gym. And they're like, I don't know what starting strength is.

Why would it be $200? So it's like, hey, here's a cheap $50 thing you can buy. And so that's the goal of those camps. But a lot of times we'll get people that, you know, drive six hours. And they're like, whoa, I get to deal with the starting strength coach at a discount. And they think you're going to tell them something besides Nope, training's hard. Like you want to be strong? Yep. Got to go in there three times a week and sweat like Nope, it's not fun once you're strong. So I'd say that's the least fun. Most fun, by far and large for me was teaching people that have never touched the weights like

i would take joey keith nathan all you guys i'd love to coach you but i really don't care you're all kind of strong like you've already done the work but like if nathan brings me his mother and she's like super scared to lift and you get to like have that interaction of like making the barbell seem approachable and like teaching someone that doesn't know anything like that is what i just taught a camp last week and i had seven guys who had one no show strength training cap she had eight for camp so it's seven guys one one no-showed. And the six guys that knew every rip-a-toe quote loved coaching him. Great time. Like, hope I helped him.

One guy had never lifted. And someone was like, dude, go to this camp. And to me, that is the most fun, like, getting. And he was, like, he was 59. He was a swimmer. Like, he's not a swimmer like Michael Phelps. That's what he did for exercise. And his doctor was like, you need to get strong.

And his buddy was like, go to this camp. I love that. I love when we're not nerding out about equipment. We're not talking about York mill backs and this and that. It's like, hey, dude, you want to live a long time. You have to be stronger. Here are the tools. That's the most fun for me.

Awesome. I dig it. Appreciate that. Shout out to Barb. Shout out to Barb. Yeah, Barb. That's your mother, right? That's my mom.

Shout out to Barb. I keep saying Nathan, hoping that it brings mom feelings. Yeah. That you would be my mother? No, I don't want to be your mom. I just, you know. He just really wants to meet your mom. He wants to coach your mom.

If someone said, Grand Phillip from Texas, I'd be like, oh, my mom's here. Yeah. Because she knows that would piss me off. So I like to call you Nathan. Okay.

I mean, most people do. Oh, okay. Fair. Yeah. I don't think I've ever called you Nathan. I don't think I've ever called you Nathan. I don't think I've ever called you Nathan. I've also only talked to you on the podcast because you only show up to the Arnold on Saturdays.

Late. And Keith doesn't stick around on Saturdays. Okay, got to go home. Are we doing some games? You want me to ask a question? I got a couple questions. We're going to hand this over to our technical guy. He came in with quite a few questions.

I got more than I had. So go ahead, buddy. I got I got so much stuff. I don't know. Let me look through here. Grant, I got a couple of would you rathers. OK, I want to put you in a sticky situation and I want you to get yourself out of it. Would you rather be reformed or not?

Yeah. So I got two positions for you. Okay. Would you rather never have a customer support email ever again? Never have a customer email issue, anything to deal with ever again, or never be able to watch a Gamecocks game again. Now, you can still know if they won. They can still do well, but you will never be able to watch a single minute, no recaps,

no highlights. They could still win, but you can't watch it. You don't know what's going on. You just know the outcome. Okay. This is a pretty clear answer for me, but you can't watch it. You don't know what's going on. You just know the outcome. Okay. This is a pretty clear answer for me, but let me maybe for the listeners provide a little context, right? Some of the customer service answers we get are like, hey, what is Electrocoat made out of?

Electric. It's electric. It's electrolytes. It's what plants crave. It's what plates or or hey so when i buy when i buy a pair of 25s do i get two i get two or is it like a pair of pants reoccurring question get it all the time um but man i'd rather watch the game i don't know how to deal with all these double negatives but like i'd rather watch the Gamecocks. I'll answer all the emails if you let me watch the Gamecocks.

I can't. I can't. Yeah, I have to know what's going on. Okay. All right. So next round, would you never wear American-made clothes again or never strength train again? Man, you guys are really asking the tough questions.

Do they make American-made clothes that big? Because you're never going to be that strong again? I think I have to train. I'd wear a Masonomics Chinese shirt. Yeah, he's gonna rather train in chinese clothes than not training yeah yeah yeah i'm gonna train yeah all right uh all right next one um now this is interesting because you said something earlier that that throws this off for me but would you rather give a discount or give up Zin? Give a discount or give up Zin.

I don't know how to give up. Wait. So if I give up Zin, I have to give a discount? Yes. Yeah. One or the other. So if I give a discount, I don't have to give up Zin. And if I give a... No, I think you're just right. So you have to pick one or the other.

So like tomorrow, tomorrow, somebody says... Give up Zin or give a discount. Yeah, we'll give you unlimited Zins, but you have to give 10%. The tithe. Give a tithe. Is that correct? Is it that? Yeah.

Is it pick one? Yeah, unlimited Zins, but you have to give a 10% discount. Code Masonomics. Or... Code unpaid, Joey. Code unpaid. Okay, yeah. Code code on paid or you never have to give a discount again but you can never have a zen again oh i'm never i'm never giving a discount

i'm never doing zen okay yeah easy yeah 30 35 up at 35 is still here? He's still here. Who let him in? That's a lot of percentage. That's a huge percent. A really large percentage. That's like your entire profit margin, I think. More. This one comes from the crew. I just saw it. Would you rather only be able to lift

cap plates or only lift the conjugate method? That's a good one. Conjugate method. Yeah. I'd rather lift the conjugate method. And the premise and the details for that would say is I actually don't care what program you run after you've gotten kind of strong. I don't care. Like the Texas method or this method doesn't matter. What matters is if you're walking in the gym and you're new and you can add five pounds, do that. Oh, you can't do that anymore? Do whatever you want.

I don't care. So yeah, I do conjugate strength coat plates made in the USA all day. Good deal. Good deal. I think the conjugate method would work more effectively if you were using strength coat plates, but that's just my opinion. No, yeah, for sure. I'd agree with you. It's like reading out of the NASB. Like, there are other Bibles.

It's the literal translation of the weight. That's what it is. Yeah, just saying. Straight from Aramaic Greek to, yeah, you know, you know. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah nathan's having a moment because like some of the biblical stuff i've layered in is so complex that he couldn't even explain it there are like three people in the massonomics discord i once mentioned uh i said we talked joey mentioned

tulips and i said shed all right oh gosh and i five points baby um oh he's typing in my doc because i stop it you fuck i i highlight all the text as i i read it and he doesn't like that you're um literally lighting oh you're killing me oh keith keith's in a dark room that's why yeah it's like very yeah um thank you i'm over here just sniffing uh constantly like tate so pardon me for mutant well i thought you were hitting ammonia well i was earlier today god i was asleep at 6 30 p.m i was right passed out morgan woke me up he's like here's steak and rice and i was like thank you talk about a keeper i don't want to run this podcast, but Keith seems like he wants to keep it going. What's up, Keith?

That's Keith's normal demeanor this entire podcast. Well, I did have one reoccurring question from a few crew. Basically, future products in massonomics, specifically kilo plates or calibrated competition plates even if they are american is that something yeah yeah uh future products that are actually happening uh i just got the steel insert for the dumbbells so we're gonna pro style dumbbell we've already done the handle um and we will use the place that we have a a little bit of steel insert, and it'll be a hex screw on the end to put together. And we've made the handle length, one, like that makes sense to grip, but two, so that, you know, you're not grabbing a 33-pound dumbbell, right? So, like, that's coming.

And I would say that's coming this year. And I even pressed the guys the other day. They were like, yeah, we have that in service. And I was like, look, man, I'm deploying next January. Like, we are not launching a product when I'm not here. And so his butt's in gear. So that'll happen. Our cast iron cooking pan is definitely happening.

Yeah, we've made a lot of those a 12 inch pan we've done a couple different uh oiling or seasoning options and i have six of the coders right now to get that right so those are coming to answer your question specifically um i'd love to do a kilogram plate because everyone trains with strength of plates. And then when they compete and post how strong they are, they do it on kilogram plates. Um, but I don't know that it like, uh, you know, I like to think that we're growing and we're big, but like, I, I think the market is very small for that. I'd say it is. Yeah.

I think the market is very small for that. Yeah, I'd say it is. Yeah, it's very small. And I think that, you know, Rogue used to be Ghost and Aliko. They do all of it in China. So I actually don't even think I'd be close on the cost. And I think that one part where we stand out is like people think, this plate is better and it's made in america i'll pay more and you'll lose both of those things like you now have a like everyone hates a kilo plate like every like like you have your yorks i'm looking at behind you which i don't think

you're actually sitting in there it's like a backdrop it's like it is my basement gym i'm just upstairs in a spare bedroom yeah you know which is fine. But I just mean like those Yorks you can grab and they work great, right? Whereas like a kilo plate actually sucks for usability. So literally you're making it just to sell to people that are running needs. And I think the margin is small. What we are doing on the line of new products is a lot of people have asked me to make a smaller plate. And that's a lot of the starting strength crowd. And so I had priced out all this new tooling for a 0.75 pound plate and a 0.25 pound plate.

It was a lot. But I just, like, it dawned on me, like an epiphany. Like, brother, we are not professionals. But this just came to my mind. Can we just take the 1.25 and machine it down more until we get to this weight? And so that's what they're doing right now. Actually this week they're,

they'll shave off the 1.25, like literally the numbers. They'll cut the OD down. And then they'll engrave in what the weight is. But like, again, no one's going to get excited about that. Like that's for, that's for Barbara. That's for like, you know, it's still cool to have to your lines.

You don't have to sub it out. You know, if you can still make it exactly. You could have partnered with someone, but it's like, it is what it is. You want to keep everything in house or Keith and his weekly PR. Yeah. I do love to micro load 1. it's fun 1.25 so it's the lowest saturdays man the biggest thing that's coming um let's see i don't know how far ahead you guys are but the first week september it'll drop is our 45s on the bumpers uh it's crumb

rubber with a urethane mix and we just did it with buckshot so right now it's 3.2 inches and it'll get down to two inches wide and the bounce the durometer will uh lower so is the diameter that's cool uh i think was i don't want to i think one of the was there any negatives about your bumpers your 45s were just a sea hare to not as tall as some of the other ones is that something i remember not as tall they're, if you were going to, and I'll just be honest, if you were going to critique it, our iron plates are just a little bit bigger than 450. Okay. Right. They're 450.4, right? And that's how we got them to get to the weight and all that stuff so the bumpers are actually the standard the 17 inches uh but yeah if you own a 17.72 or whatever it's but if you

own both yeah they're a little bit different gotcha but yeah and and that that'll be the same on the new the thinner ones too yeah yeah the new bumpers will be 450 millimeters centimeters millimeters canada help me out yeah come on joey help me out i think it's celsius Thinner ones too. Yeah. Yeah. The new bumpers will be 450 millimeters, centimeters, millimeters. Canada, help me out. Yeah. Come on, Joey. Help him out. I think it's Celsius.

Yeah. Yeah. It's Celsius. It's 25 degrees outside. But yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah.

No. The 45, but they'll be thinner and they'll be, you know, it's interesting because bumpers are, and not a good segue, but bumpers are a really interesting topic because a lot of people that want bumpers don't care about sleeve space like they're just like hey i do i work out my gym yeah four or five below right and so but i am like i've always said i do the products how i feel as a lifter and I think you know I think having a thinner 45 uh that's a bumper is better that's what I would want uh I mean when I when I looked at my rock climbing gym it's like some days there's a bunch of people in there and when I'm banging 500 pounds

on the deck like it's loud and I never have realized it's loud until there's like people doing a technical wall so sometimes i'm like oh i'll just use the bumpers but then i'm like i can't like there's literally not enough room so um yeah it'll go from 3.2 inches to two inches will be the and that'll be it will that be the standard new 45 are you gonna offer both and yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna get rid of the other one. I'm just going to go with what I think works. That's awesome. That'll be a hit.

Personal endorsement here. Shout out to the other woman in my life, my wife. Yeah. My wife. My wife. After years of working out. Did she come down to do laundry again? Yeah.

No, she has not come to do laundry again. I think she went to bed this time. no she uh you know she was uh in the home workout we have a home gym a detached garage behind our house a big garage guy i've been been lifting in this thing for since we bought this house put started drinking too no no drinking no drinking just just just lifting we're 5 30 in the morning ain't no time for that um uh but you know she was an indoor she was working out on the tv and i finally convinced her you know what hey you come out to the garage we'll get you strong you know i'll i'll channel my inner grant we'll get you doing some five by fives we'll get you doing all the things and uh we you know what you know what,

you know what I said, Hey, we need to, we need to load a little bit less than a 45 pound plate on for these deadlifts. We need to micro load some of these movements so we can make progress like Keith does. Um, and you know where I went, I went to the strength.co and I bought some, some bumpers. I bought some micro loading plates and let me tell you, excellent. They're excellent. They do exactly what i need and they're perfect i love them your wife had a great photo with them yeah great yes she did like yeah like women holding weights no no trust me trust me yeah it's like it makes everything look so approachable. And like your wife's photo, like holding a 25 or whatever it was, I like screenshotted it, cropped it, posted it on X. People loved it.

Oh, good. Yeah. No, it's great. Thanks for the support. Appreciate your order. Every order counts. Every order counts. That's what they've been saying for years.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure Masonomics invented that saying, so. Yep. I mean, the biggest thing about Masonomics is they invented paywalls. Before Masonomics. You might not know that. You might have never heard that. No, you heard it here first.

All right. Can I do a quick pause? Nate, is your house ever going to stop burning? No. No, it's not. The whole time it's just going to burn. Yeah, that's there to make fun of me, I think, a little bit.

There's so many other things you could do. Do you know the reference? Does Grant understand the reference? I mean, for the audio listeners at home, so the everything is fine dog, there's like that dog that's sitting in the fire, sipping a coffee,

and he's just like, the picture is like, everything's fine. This is fine. Everything is fine. And that's, yeah, that's just like the the picture is like everything's fine this is fine everything is fine so this is just yeah that's that's my phrase just everything is fine because eventually everything has to be fine because the alternative is utter failure so everything is fine everything has to be okay and the real story is i put this as my background like episodes and episodes ago

and i'm just never on this computer enough early enough to find a different background than i want to use so it's just been this for every episode for a while but yeah i won't stop burning yeah it's just okay okay if you somebody could call the fire department that'd be great everything everything's fine okay yeah everything's fine exactly because everything has to be fine yeah like what are you gonna do freak out every time something small inconveniences you that'd be yeah are you gonna do freak out every time something small inconveniences you that'd be yeah I think Grant might freak out on me here in a second

why don't I know why don't I know who Jack White is other than I an artist that you really like I probably have to Spotify him because I don't I don't yeah you don't I really don't know who Jack we spoke about them like last week or the week yeah and I and I ignore I have to shit you say about music I don't know who Jack White is. We spoke about them last week or the week before. Yeah, and I have to shit you say about music.

I don't know what you're saying. I think I actually, as a big Jack White fan, I think Keith is in a fair position here. I didn't know who Jack White was. I mean, I've known about him for 13 years now, but I think it was 2011 when i moved in with jeff and he was like huge jack white rock on tours dead weathers the whole deal and like what i liked was there was a story right it wasn't just like a band there was like all this background

information and so i became hugely in it but at the time, Keith, I think you're in a fair position to like, not actually know who he is. But yeah, no, Michigan. Dead Weathers was first, right, Nathan? No. No. The White Stripes. No, Dead Weathers was before the White Stripes. No.

I know. 100%. No. 100%. Fact check me. I'll go into wikipedia right now fact check me dead brothers i would say the white stripes had to have been first him and meg were definitely had to have been first and you might be right but i mean i wouldn't have known about them till way after and it's fair fair fair joy but the lead singer of the White Stripes? Yes. Deadweather formed in 2009.

The White Stripes... I'm wrong then. Okay. Where does it start? Here's the White Stripes performing in 2007. They were together before 2009. White Stripes performing in 2007 so they were together before 2009 okay yeah no White Stripes Jack White uh it's just a I don't know like it's I always tell people like I

don't really like rock I've always liked country Lynyrd Skynyrd like if you ask me like what's your type of music I would tell you Lynyrd Skynyrd and I would say that Jack White's he's not Lynyrd Skynyrd right like it's it's It's actually completely different, but in terms of rock, electric guitar, but telling a story, he's in that vein. I'm a huge fan. His new album is good.

Keith, there's no way you don't know I'm looking at all the songs and none of them. There's no way you don't know that song. Seven Nations Army. There's no way you don't know Seven Nations Army. That's White Stripes though. I'm talking at all the songs and none of them there's no way you don't know that song Seven Nations Army there's no way you don't know Seven Nations Army that's White Stripes though I'm talking about Jack White is White Stripes

so that's a deep cut Keith I like it people that like Jack White I would say what's the song Nathan about all the different women's hair colors um he talks about man now i don't think i know that one uh yeah you do um i'm also i think it's people blame like uh

um add but i'm not a lyrics guy i'll be honest bla. Well, I was a Rado. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He has a girl that's brunette, a girl that's blonde, a girl that's, no, that's Mambo number five. You can't fuck with me.

That was, that was a, that was an old song. But yeah, I feel like all this, the solo Jack White stuff is, is probably a lot lesser known unless you're like a big Jack White guy. I mean, even Raconteur's Dead Weather stuff, like, unless you're like a Jack White guy.

But to say you don't know Jack White, the shock is like, but the White Stripes, and it's like, oh, well, yeah, I know that guy. Why didn't you just say the White Stripes? Yeah. I feel like it's the typical response I get. I can't say this, but like, man, I feel like raconteurs, like I actually. High energy.

I like high energy. Yeah. I got real like, and I liked it. I liked the Jack. I liked the white stripe stuff, but raconteurs is good. But anyway, I digress.

They had that one song. It was in my lifting playlist for a long time with the video of them doing, I think like a wagons or something. Yeah. Yeah. I can't name it. I can't name the song off the top of my head it was in my playlist forever but that's like such a high energy rock song my one buddy

was a huge fan but you know i'm not going to label myself a fan but i know of it i'm adjacent i'm a fan adjacent um all right uh we are geez approaching an hour and a half and i don't think we've talked about anything which would be on par with this podcast i'm ready to go i'm here yeah okay if they want to get to the section where we actually talk about stuff they have to you know get behind our paywall yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the join unpaid and underrated slash join. I'm going to do an FMK. And I want to go. No, actually, I'm going to do Mount Rushmore.

You do FMK because you're better at those than I am. So Mount Rushmore, country singers. Keith's pissed now. No, no, we're good. I don't give a fuck. Sorry, I don't give a damn. I don't give a sweat. Man, this is tough. Real Waylon Jennings

Willie Nelson Merle Harger Johnny Cash Ooh Those are Those are good ones Did you know Yeah

Did you know Willie Nelson's Daughter is in a band Yeah Um It's Folk Yuki I did She's amazing

Yeah I've seen I've seen Willie three times and each time I saw him I thought he's gonna die he's gonna die but he's still alive he's so old I've seen I saw Merle Haggard

he's not dead he's not dead yet? no Merle Haggard. He's not dead yet. No, Merle's dead. Oh, okay. Okay. Merle's dead.

Yeah. Merle's dead. Um, Johnny's dead. I remember when he died. I remember when he died and I went to Baptist Sunday school and the like first 15 minutes of Sunday school was talking about how Johnny Cash died. And I remember thinking like,

my kids have to be Baptist. Like this is the way life should work. Um, the first article I ever had published was a eulogy to Johnny Cash and it was published in my college newspaper it was the first thing I ever had officially published nice Waylon's probably my favorite like I just

love the songs I love that he stole a military helicopter and landed it in Johnny Cash's backyard to get his attention. Yeah, but I don't know. Runners up, if that's a thing. Sure. Dwight Yoakam, Hank Williams Jr.

They're definitely – oh, I can have my druthers? Of course you can. You can do whatever you want. No, Dwight Yoakam's close. I would put Dwight Yoakam up there. And Dwight Yoakam up there. like the people that hate California are the people from the east coast that watch Fox News all day and I'm like 90% of the things that you enjoy in life you can enjoy in

90% of the state of California like you have no idea how great California is but yeah they're runners up if I was going to do a Mexican one Vicente Fernandez and Ramona Yella are the same thing as the four guys.

I said, except in Spanish, but like the same and yeah, they're close. But anyway, thanks for having me. Let me have my druthers. We,

uh, we have a running joke in my household ever since my wife and I got together is, I think I've talked about it here before is the, Hey honey, it's Dwight Yoakam or Morgan. It's Dwight Yoakam because he's in a lot of movies i ran he'll just randomly appear on all my playlists he'll randomly appear on the radio

obsessing outlaw country on sirius and she'll just turn and she'll turn to me go i don't care but it happens like twice a week yeah it's just so funny man purple rain great great tune he did do a cover there yeah he was a cover but like yeah it was the best he has a couple great covers and again he was in crank which is one of my favorite movies and and yeah it's just always funny because like we'll just be i'll just be driving and i'll go hey honey it's dwight yocum and she's like i don't care you think i don't care dude and i'm like no have you ever have you ever seen him no like not live no you should i should i'd love to i've seen it i've seen him two or three times but like yeah he's he's good he's still playing is he still playing

still playing i actually saw him is he wearing jeans that i don't know is he still wearing those tight tight tight jeans no they're still really tight. The last time I saw him, it might have been 21. I think he had a baby in COVID. But I remember he brought his baby on the stage. And so I name all those other four. But like Dwight Yoakam for me and my wife, like when we start dating, we always listen to that. And so like Dwight Yoakam's definitely a specialist.

It'll be one of those things if I ever was to and she heard Dwight Yoakam, she would have to hear my voice in her head going, Hey, honey, it's Dwight Yoakam. There you go. She'd be like, damn it. Damn it. Guitars, Cadillacs, and country music. Hillbilly music.

Yep. Same thing. No, but my mistakes all right keith go ahead yeah uh yeah i'm switching it up for the fmk so i got i got a couple i might ask but i'll go with the first one in case you know if it do you know what that means is it is it free my kid yeah yeah that's it What was it? It was Slap, Tickle, Pickle or something? Yeah. I think I know what it is.

So F. Mary Kill, we've got let's go. I'm going to keep this podcast specific. So hosting a podcast, being a guest on a podcast, listening to a podcast. And not being a guest on this podcast. You don't get to weight this against all the others let me think about let me think about let me think about what

these words mean for a second so um it's a big word guy over here so so so hosting being on and then just consuming so yeah i i guess you you could say however you want to take it. F is a one-shot, marry is a forever, kill is a never do it again. I think I'm effing being a guest. And not because I don't like

being a guest. I'm very glad to be here tonight. I'm glad to be everything I'm on, but I think in terms of my development, I probably need to do that the least i think um would you kill that though then instead of effort no i'd have it okay okay yeah i would marry consumption okay and i would kill hosting oh wow you guys are on like 30, though, aren't you? 50.

Yeah, no, and I love it. And I love it. And hopefully they listen to this. And hopefully they make it two hours in like Big Carp did. But I'm just thinking of Grant. Oh, yeah. It destroys your personal. It is all-consuming.

Oh, it is a thing. And actually, I've been very impressed with like the amount of contact how far you scheduled me out like everything and i also appreciate it you know like we're only whatever we are 35 episodes in but it's like man people suck they say they're gonna come on they don't come. Like they have no idea like what it takes. And then like other people that consume, they're just like, Oh,

the podcast is great. Keep doing it. And you're like, you don't understand. Everyone sucks. Yeah. Um, we're,

we're, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. You're at what? 70. Uh, this is 68.

Uh, it's technically over. Yeah. You're over a year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We,

we had a few months ago. Understand. Turn on Siri somehow. months ago. I don't understand. Turn on Siri somehow. I love it. 68, she just doesn't get that number. She's like, what's the next one? Tell me. I would say we're lucky.

Former guest Siri. We've basically never had anyone cancel. I had one guy. He gave me a 24-hour notice that he had a death in the family. Yeah, Connor. His name was Connor King. Well, I don't count someone

that was scheduled like nine weeks in advance to telling me he couldn't make it. I mean, within like a three-day notice, I've only had like one time, and he would only go the following week. So we've been really lucky. Like everyone that's on the podcast listens to, well, knows of, uh, you know, they're our friends basically. Whereas, yeah, if I had a podcast like yours where you actually try to interview more just everyday lifters and shit, that's just hard.

Like I, especially being so new too. It's like, Hey, you're basically standing on the fact that you're granting the strength code to get people on until you can. That's it. Right. And they're like, yeah, they're like, they're like well what is this yeah it's tough uh i think the toughest part for me uh so you're all in the same time zone yes thankfully that that's yeah so that's that's like so we're jeff trey and i are we, we, we, we go off what we call grant time. So I'm always like,

what is that grant time? And so I start at 9 30 PM Eastern on Tuesday nights. And it's just like, oh man. And like, you know, I've talked to Tanner about this and you guys understand, I mean,

you understand right now, regardless of you're on East coast time or not, it's like, you don't get up. Like you can't like wind down on a podcast and then like finish and go to bed right like you finish your podcast and then you're like okay now i need to wind down yeah but yeah it's a solid hour after the episode before i actually yeah yeah for sure i think yeah i go and watch youtube players or play me or play video games or something like i i there's no going right to bed no keith is easy he goes back to his basement he like touches the back of the york mills

he's like i'm so glad the back of these are milled i wish i got you brother he has one pair but not but we all do love pie i mean i love being on this podcast. Not to shit on, I mean, it's a lot of work, but God dang it, I love it. It's, you know. No, it is fun. And, you know, like, I'll be the first to tell you, out of 68 episodes, I've probably started half of what you guys have done. I've probably finished five. But that's like, as someone producing a podcast, that's what I try to keep in mind is like, that's actually part of the game is like, it's not a game, but

it's like, hey, I can't make it two hours. I always wish I could. But like just the fact that like I open it and I'm like, oh, that crew members are like, I'm gonna listen. Yeah, it's it's fun. And like, it's a big part of, I don't know. I think we're all millennials here. But it's a big part of like our lives, right? It's like, hey, you wake up. Like every day I walk down to my office, it's like a 12-minute walk.

I'm always wearing headphones listening to a podcast. And sometimes I make it 12 minutes into Rogan, right? Which like, you might as well listen to none of it because it's like you know it's so long yeah but it's but it's it's definitely a part of our our lives but uh yeah no it's fun to create and it's interesting um it's interesting looking at the numbers and like man like people like as Jeff Trey and I have always said it's like we're just we're just doing this because we talked once a week anyway it's like let's do it and then you're like wow people listen to this

this is cool um same thing with you guys is and yeah anyway it's just podcasts they're not going away uh that's what people consume and you guys pull a ton of like clips and like make your all you know you you turn that into a ton of content did you actually so like we struggle with that like we we we we have the video file but none of us have time to go through it and like clip it and like i used to do it but it's probably been a couple months since i've gone through and pulled the video file to make anything because like i do and then we get like 50 likes and it's like that was that was like a 45 minutes of my life to get 50 likes i just i'll post the thumbnail once a week and then just do stories. Dude, that's why you got to start posting like jujitsu hot takes, Keith, and then you can get all the views.

Did you see that one, Nathan? Yeah, I saw it. That one went crazy. I saw that. What's funny is I said we make a lot of content for the strength co. Some of it does well. Some of it does bad. go. Someone does well, someone does bad. And when I did the OK podcast, I was like, you know, like what I had gotten tired of was turning the camera on, looking at it and be like, Hey, guys,

here's this coaching take. And I was like, what if we did a podcast, but during it, we talked about lifting. And it took care of like one YouTube video a week that was actually I mean, the guys want to do it, I want to do it, but it was like, it would actually lessen the burden. And it has. And what's funny is I personally think when you're feeling me sitting in the chair, talking about lifting,

it's boring. But if you're covering a topic that's helpful with the way our channel is, it works. So like we do that. And then for our clips, I'm like, I'm not spending any money and I'm not spending any time. So I'm not spending any money. We pay for software any time. I say I'm not spending any money.

We pay for software, forget the name, I'll send it to you Keith, might be useful for you. It's 25 bucks a month and you upload your entire podcast and it just spits you 15 reels. And most of them suck, but I post them anyway because I'm like, I don't have time to edit this, like whatever. And so like, no, the one that Nathan's talking about, Placido's like, yeah, people with a black belt suck, you know, blah, blah. And like the internet loves controversy, but like we spent zero time on that. And that's like the number one real in the OK Podcast ever.

It's like 50,000 views views like a bunch of new followers uh so yeah that's it because we already did the work right like we all decided we were going to come together at night and like do this thing and it's like well i might as well get something out of it and if it's not great it's still something um so yeah that's that's what we do we just upload it and it just spits you reels and it And it has the words on it and it picks. Like you don't pick anything. But then you at least have something to post. It's interesting.

So Grant, what's easier to find clips from your podcast or your dad's sermons? What's easier to find? What's easier to find clips from? What are you? I've just seen i've just seen like i've seen you scroll the strength code page i'm like who is this and i'm like oh wait this is grant's dad yeah yeah no my dad i mean i got him on that about a year ago is he doing that so so my dad you know he's a southern baptist preacher based in South Carolina, has a really big church.

And my dad, he's just like a 70s, 80s mindset guy. So he's on the radio to this day, 33 states twice a day, he's on the radio. That's awesome. And so that's where his mind is. Yeah, thanks. It's cool, actually. And I actually realized how much I learned from it. But I'm like, Dad, you have all these high-tech cameras all this like

stuff going on you should also be making short form content he's like i don't know about that like we're on the radio on 33 states man that's what the people are the radio yeah we's mass communicating you idiot my dad's like you want to call us 1-800-dot-dot i'm like dad no one calls 1-800 numbers anymore um but like dad no one calls when 800 numbers anymore but no so he's he started doing this short form and it was funny I was done in this week music I just don't feel like it's taken off I'm like dad this video but you talking about baptism has 1 million views that's crazy really yeah no it's it's it's funny but no he's he's not working on it but I've been trying to help him with that because all the infrastructure is there.

Yeah. Right? It's already being filmed. Someone's already editing it, and I'm just like, give it to the people the way people consume content now. That's what I'm saying, Keith. Get on it. Yeah. Get on it, Keith.

Yeah. I'm sorry. As soon as Tanner gives us that $25 a month, we cannot take care of that for you. We're trying to buy a speedboat, man. All right. So ultra serious goose time doesn't have to be serious goose. I warned Keith and Joey I might do this. And I feel like it's sitting right there.

And I feel like I got to take it. So I know we don't get political on this podcast. But like least fun fun most fun part to me this is a very always a great topic in the world i come from so least fun most fun being a pastor's kid what is the least fun what is the most fun is this political i don't know i said the word pastor so we don, you know, the three things you don't talk about, right? Like religion, politics, money. We kind of avoid those.

Well, that diet was one, but Keith brought up his diet. Yeah, you are the second pastor's kid. Yeah, last week. Who was the first? Ashley was last week. Last week. There might have been that one. I'd be surprised if there wasn't another one in there.

But people are, another one but people are i mean people are writing books about being pastors kids and talking all about it so i mean i want to hear from the source grant brogy the expert on all things what is the least fun what is the most i can make anything i can make anything i'm a i'm a i'm a builder um no uh i could probably put massive i could probably makeastodonics behind a paywall Yeah you could probably Come up with that Just cutting edge Yeah

You could put Masters Behind a paywall Oh there you go Most likely I got a new one For you dad Like You want me to go

Full honesty It's your show We're not professionals Yeah We're not We slime I would say Is the pressure Yeah which takes away from your own faith. Yeah.

Right? So you have this image you have to uphold. And we could talk about this in terms of Christianity. We could talk about it in a bunch of stuff. But if you have a standard that you have to keep, you actually don't think of like what's happening in your own life. So I would say least fun is like, you're the pastor's kid. The pastor does all these great things.

Like it's, PK works both ways, right? President's kid, pastor's kids, but it's probably similar to like how the Obama kids felt, how the Trump kids felt, right?

Like I have, like, it doesn't matter what I do on a much smaller scale on a local church, but it's like, you have this persona to keep and I think what it breaks down is the thing that the, I don't want to call it the service, but that the organization is actually trying to provide faith, right? And you're, but you're worried about, well, I gotta make sure sure i do everything right so i think that's the least fun um most fun being a pastor's kid i don't i don't even know yeah i don't even know how i would um i mean i like you know we

joke about our podcast right like I don't know any movies. Like, I don't know anything. I always say, if you grew up for 18 years and didn't watch a movie, you can never catch up. And I tried really hard in college. Like, I watched movies for six hours a day. I was like, I will catch up. You can't catch up, right? But I do think what's fun is like, I can make reform jokes to you about Tulip.

We can bring up a john piper book like the deep takes you have on religion it's it's kind of eye-opening when you talk to someone because a lot of people you talk to will be like yeah i go to church and like you ask like one question and the way they answer that like if you have like a you know a church background you're like oh i know what this is yeah right it's kind of like a lifting right it's like it, you know, a church background, you're like, Oh, I know what this is. Right. It's kind of like a lifting, right? It's like, it's like being in a massonomics, like I'm in a lifting and you're like, you know, what would Huck Finn do? And they're like, I don't know what that means. Right. Exactly. It's the same thing. So like, I,

and I enjoy that actually as an adult now, because like my faith is important to me but i enjoy that like you know you can talk to someone and realize right away like oh i actually kind of know what they believe and what they think about um but yeah i mean pastors kids i don't know like it's it's not a bad thing but it's not a good thing like it's it's just what it is right like it's like i always think every time we record a podcast or every time i publish a youtube video i'm like my god my daughter is going to be able to access this on the internet like when she's 13 like what am i doing right and it's kind of similar in the church like you know um you're up there on display yeah so, yeah. I don't know if that answered your question,

but that's the best hack I have at it. I was thinking like most fun is like being able to run around a giant building with no supervision because your dad's the pastor, but. Oh yeah. Yeah. Definitely that. Yeah.

Definitely. All the, all the PKs I know are just like, yeah, it's great. Like we, we get nerf guns out and we just run around a giant building all the time on the weekdays. Like no one's here. That's true. That's true. are just like, yeah, it's great. Like we get Nerf guns out and we just run around a giant building all the time on the weekdays.

Like no one's here. That's true. Actually, I, my first job was, uh, I was the church janitor. I was on the payroll for the church in the bathrooms. You can do that in the South. You can do that. She, well, yeah. Okay.

There's Nathan serious. Use questions. So we have this game we like to play it's called unpaid or underrated uh it's kind of like overrated underrated um different yeah except different so unpaid is like obviously that the thing is unpaid so it's the overrated version of of ours um okay so i'm unpaid equals overrated yes i'm homeschooled so sometimes you have to really break stuff down from unpaid bad underrated good and okay thank you keith what and then uh i got like 15 of them so normally we limit these to like six but like i've just been going through this entire i've added about like seven since we started talking so so how did how did my people do i did send your link out yep were we above average

were we were we underpaid or were we uh you did what is it we did good we had a couple yeah yeah there was at least four i think maybe five yeah we had some good submissions and then i took some of those add them to here but as we're talking i've been adding more which is usually how it works on the podcast i go through it during like before the podcast i'll go through and say no that's a good topic for unpaid and underrated and i'll move it down instead of like uh okay okay instead of like just bringing it up willy-nilly like hey tell me about this thing like it's there's does anybody here listen to limp biscuit yeah okay i mean did you listen to the new limp biscuit album uh no according to our notes grant's a low-key hipster

he doesn't listen to any any new limp biscuit so there's okay This is what I don't want to be. There's a song called... Break Stuff. There's only one song, Joey. The new album is called Limp Bizkit Still Sucks. Yes. And it's got the dad vibe song, but it's got this song that's just random about snacks. But at the end, it's this really shitty interview

with Wes Borland. And it's just a guy going so I heard you like tacos and Wes is like yeah and the guy goes oh yeah I heard you like this metal band and Wes goes yeah and the guy's like great talking to you

and I was like I don't want to fucking do that like when we get these lists and it's just lists of topics it's like I don't want to do that so anyway I'm of those done underrated. So Keith, go ahead with unpaid underrated. Right. I'm going to go. Keith, Keith, quick underpaid, bad, underrated, good, unpaid, bad.

So it's the name of the podcast. So unpaid or underrated. So we have a T-shirt grant. We have a, you can buy that. Massanamus.com. There's a t-shirt, Grant. You can buy that. Massanamus.com. There's three left last I checked. Only three spots left. Gotta rush to that.

Unpaid or underrated. Oh, you might... Just go for it, man. Just go. The movie, A River Runs Through It, but you just said you don't watch movies, but you have to know this. It's literally about a pastor's kid and it's about fly fishing. So A River Runs Through It, but you just said you don't watch movies, but you have to know this. It's literally about a pastor's kid, and it's about fly fishing.

So, A River Runs Through It, unpaid or underrated? Underrated. Good movie. Yeah, great movie. Yeah, love it, actually. Agreed. Very good movie. Who's in that?

Zach? Brad Pitt. Yeah, Brad Pitt and another guy from the early 90s that probably hasn't done too much since. Let's see. Unpaid or underrated host in a weekly podcast. We kind of already went over that, but I guess you can say unpaid or underrated. It's definitely unpaid. It's fair.

Yeah, it'd probably have been unpaid. What did you say, Joey? Five stars? No, I'm telling Keith, do five. What do you want? Oh, okay. Don't we're going to let Nate do a couple? Oh, yeah, that's a great idea.

Nate's here. I remember that guy. I'm going to do about three. Unpaid or underrated cats. Underrated's good, right? Yeah. Yeah. Underrated by a large margin.

I'm a big cat guy i love my cats like i actually so i got a baby on the way coming october deploying january and i tell my wife all the time i'm like look i'm leaving from baby will be five months probably to a year i'll be gone and i'm like it's the worst thing that could happen. But I'm more worried about my cat because like, you'll take care of the baby and you'll tell her everything that is going on. And the cat will have no idea. So like, will the cat also care?

The cat will like, for sure. Yeah. My cat, my older cat, my, yeah, go ahead,

Keith. No, I was just saying like, like cat, I mean, cats know when you're not there. They may, I don't know. Yeah, my cat. My older cat. Yeah, go ahead, Keith. No, I was just saying, like, cats know when you're not there. They might, I don't know. Yeah, big time. No, big time. Yeah, yeah.

No, the cat will notice. The cat will 100% notice. That's when they break stuff. Shout out Limp Bizkit. I'm a little surprised they're not here yet. Cat, come here, cat. Are you guys worried about how the cut the cats are gonna assimilate with the baby and like that interaction we're not necessarily we're actually

kind of excited about that but that's probably just because instagram broke our brains and it just like looks like every cat gets along with babies on instagram um but uh in reality yeah yeah we yeah no i think that'll be fine. Um, and the cat will be fine. Like it's a cat. It's a cat. They're resilient. All right.

I'm gonna do one more and then I'll think I'll leave four for everybody. Uh, unpaid or underrated rogue plates. This is not on your skit. It's not on your scale. What's the worst thing you could say unpaid unpaid it's not fair no i mean uh i i would say unpaid i think that and fortunate for us as we say in the baptist community you never say you're lucky you say you're blessed but like i always say the internet has said that they like our plates for talking cast iron right like i don't feel like is rogue your competitor i'm like on a grand scale

zero percent but in terms of cast iron american made plates yeah and i think people like ours better uh so i would i would give them unpaid um the only thing i don't like about rogue honestly because i like them like i like i think bill's a cool guy i think it's cool it's a better on company the only thing that i think that they guys a little bit weird is they make everything look like it's made in america yeah it's not absolutely not and i've had a lot of opportunities to make other things and i could totally make it look like it was made in america but i don't and so that's where it's like like yeah actually i kind of don't like you for this but uh no i mean i think i guess what i would say as a lifter is why would you buy their cast iron plates

over their bumpers like they're so thick like unless you just think it looks cool right i think they missed the mark with the deep dish i think they look yeah i think they're and they're and they're living plates and their other stuff is great right like i mean my gym all rogue r3 racks like like rogue makes great stuff like don't get me wrong uh but yeah i think i think their plates are I think their 45s look cool, but the line doesn't match down the line. Yeah, I'd go unpaid. Did they make the ones for the Arnold?

With Arnold? Yeah. We're doing a one next year. It's kind of like Nathan's face around the hole, but it's on fire like the house is on fire and it just says it's fine

sponsored by Home Depot but those will be behind a paywall you've got to access that monthly subscription there's a lot of stuff to get from me behind a paywall we need $25 a month crew

Nate do you want me to go next? There's a lot of stuff to get. You got to get from me behind the paywall. We need $25 a month, crew. Nate, do you want me to go next? Go for it. All right. So unpaid or underrated, Canada. You know, I can't answer this honestly because I've always really wanted to go. I have been. I've been.

If I was in Detroit and I walked across, where did I go windsor okay i went to windsor right i'm sorry i'm so sorry there's better parts of canada i was like 15 i was with the po of home depot and like here's work for team at the time but uh no i i'm actually gonna go underrated in terms of montreal looks really cool to me uh the niagara fall side looks cool um i will say that their customers are unpaid they act like i i am the person charging the duty like you're the one that charged the duties in taxes this is your country not mine like this like this direct pass pass through but yeah no i i'm pro canada i love every canadian customer i like your chips that taste like ketchup damn it that was one of my things don't don't give anything away sorry sorry

yeah no but i i think underrated but i would love to do a real Canada trip. And I haven't, but I would... I'm going to say underrated just out of lack of experience. Do your plates get stuck in Carol's stream like all Joey's shirts do? No, because he's shipping from the other side. He's got warehouses in a couple spots.

The weird thing, Nathan, about that, and maybe Joey can speak to this, but it's like if you ship from Wisconsin, which to me should be the cheapest, weird thing Nathan about that and maybe Joey can speak to this but it's like if you ship from Wisconsin which to me would should be the cheapest right like it's literally right by the border or you ship from California ship from South Carolina duties and freight cost is the same it's it's this it's like a flat rate and I would love to bring our shipping costs down to Canada. I think it's an unserved market. I'd love someone to open a warehouse there and we pay for, you know, a truckload of 44,000 pounds across the border. But, but no, it's, yeah, it's, it is, it is tough to ship over there and the the the hard part is that the the consumer never thinks about all the layers right and so like if fedex is charging something or ups holds a shipment it's stranko's fault

and i get it right like it's like kind of what you signed up for but um yeah i wish we served canada better like i really wish we do we do now on apparel like small stuff our pricing's way better but i wish for heavy stuff we were better at that i i can give some insight um sure so the if you remember i messaged you about the puffy coat shirt yeah and i was like i was like when you release it i fucking want it uh after shipping it was a 90 canadian t-shirt it was so you buy off kanye's website yeah and i just i honestly i was like i love that shirt i want that shirt i'll see if i can get them to bring it to the arnold but i can't justify a 90 t-shirt like that's out of pocket i mean you can once you put pencil to paper you can yes i did not put pencil to paper that day

but yeah that happens sometimes. But that customs thing, and you're right, because I'll ship something from, let's say, Ghost Energy. Because they're coming from Nevada. And they're $15 flat shipping, and I don't pay anything. And it just shows up in a couple days. Masonomics will ship from South Dakota, Barefoot from North Dakota. What's a t-shirt from south dakota like from massonomics uh if they're 35 plus 15 so they'll charge me 15 in

shipping so like i'll pay 60 to 70 which is why again i don't i don't order that often unless it's something that really speaks really good but you. But I don't pay duties and customs because they ship slow shipping, which is USPS. Yeah. Yeah. Interestingly, I got a package from, I want to say somewhere in the Northeast,

DHL, free shipping, no customs. But if anything is being shipped express, you will pay out your ass. Yeah sure you will pay duties customs a yield i don't i don't ship a lot of express from the states so i'll actually use grim frost as an example because grim frost comes from the netherlands it's a 50 order it's ten dollars for shipping and i'll pay a hundred dollars in duties oh my gosh wow but it'll be there in two days because i'm paying for somebody to open it inspect it and go this is no it all makes sense it all makes sense when you think about the logistics of it i think of things i used to work in shipping and logistics so i completely understand that but i can see how a consumer that is like i ordered 200 in strength go plates paid shipping and now i owe

another 150 whatever it is i can see why they'd be blaming you but in reality they're actually it's it's dhl or ups or whoever is that's who is taking all of that money. Because the government's taking like a few dollars, because like, why aren't you buying plates in Canada? Because you don't make plates, you weirdos. But the alternative is like, you're paying the shipping company to get it across the border with nobody

in the world. Brokerage fees. Yeah, they're the worst. If we could somehow do ltl shipments that are just like i actually have a friend in freight and maybe i'll actually bother him so he he works in ltl and and full truckload shipping and maybe i'll talk to him and be like what do we do to avoid that because he does that he's like he's the broker that like books a truck to go and pick it up and ship it and all that kind of stuff. Because it is a damn nightmare.

And it's funny how, like I said, two-day shipping from Ghost, $15. Doesn't matter what's in it. I don't pay anything. Ten-day shipping. Nathan has something interesting to say. Yeah. Joey said all this, but Grant, why are you charging the Canadians so much money? Because I don't like Canadians.

This is the rumor. I don't understand why the strength co charges people so much to get it across the border. Yeah, I'm charging them. It's me. Why? I always look at things and I say, you know what I want to do? I want to sell less plates. I want my plates to have less reach.

No, but it is and like i i would i would put and this is an insult it's compliment keith but i put keith out of the three of you guys is the home gym nerd like dude i want to solve the canada canada thing like i really want to i really want to because a lot of people want our stuff over there um it's just tough right and it's you know it's it's it's lift gates it's you know ltls it's you know i think the only way we really solve this is i open a warehouse there which i'm looking into actually recently um but i think that's the only way that it gets answered because if if if someone orders plates to Canada they gotta get to the border you're like they have to go through this government process and it is I mean it makes sense right like someone has to open it look at it pull out

a piece of paper make sure the harmonization code is correct. It's a real thing. I see a kitty. Yeah, right there. Joey, how big is your backyard? Can we put a warehouse in it? Big enough to get married in. Yeah, actually probably.

I don't know if it's that big. I mean, the plates can pack in pretty tight, so I think we'll be fine they can yeah they're small then they're smooth yet easy to grip i was about to say that same thing all right i i think i have two more uh unpaid or underrated of course now i want to hear it ketchup chips oh um underrated love them and like the best thing that i love them is they speak to the mexicans so like my wife was like like that was the first thing she said when she saw you

was like do you think you brought the chips and you didn't this year to look hardly easy i i was like i flew i should have yeah no it's fine uh but no i think i think they're not my thing but uh yeah i think i think they're a unique yeah i think they're underrated yeah i think you and um d and connor connor really liked i think all dress really liked him too yeah and californians man they like weird stuff all right uh unpaid or underrated. I think this is my last one. And what do I do here?

Um, the Aberdeen mall. Hmm. I love it. How do I answer that question? Just the Aberdeen mall is like, it's definitely unpaid, but it's so underrated. Like Mall is like, it's definitely unpaid, but it's so underrated.

Like it's like Connor, Dean, I talk about this all the time. Like we're there. We stayed an extra day, which was weird because this year on Lift Hard, Live Easy 2, a lot of people stayed an extra day. But last year, everyone bolted. And we were like, what do we do? And went to the mall. And like, it's definitely a sad mall. It's the end of Aberdeen's Mall, but at the same time, it kind of makes it great.

It's like walking into an old church, Nathan. You're like, well, there's only three people here, but dang, these three souls, they matter. No, I had a great time. I watched Barbie. I never thought I'd ever see Barbie. I would never watch Barbie in any other time in my life. But like that Sunday afternoon, that day at the Aberdeen Mall, it made perfect sense. And I loved it.

Yeah. No, I underrated. Yeah. Not unpaid. I'm a big fan. But also unpaid in every other aspect. But from my experience, underrated. Yeah. Not unpaid. I'm a big fan, but also unpaid in every other aspect. But for my experience, underrated. Nate, what do you got for us? You added some. Yeah. So, you know, longtime listeners, deep cut callbacks.

First time caller. yeah um well no sure um but long-time listeners i don't know if it's a deep cut if it's a uh if it's a callback there was a discussion about that on the discord grant barely knows how to use it um but uh roll tide is a very you know close to home term um here on the unpaid and underrated podcast not for the fact that we like sec football um but roll tide yes yeah um but because joey joey thought roll tide is was a term used during a nascar race in which the tide car rolled over um uh it's a it's a big day yeah uh but for the uh the more familiar with the true Roll Tide, unpaid or underrated Alabama Crimson Tide, Grant?

Man, I think I got to go underrated, right? And I'm a Patriots fan, and I always hated when people hated the Patriots because I got it. I was a fan. But I'm like, how do you hate greatness? Right? Like, how do you like it's how I feel about the company that should not be named. Right? Like, they're kicking our ass.

Like, they're so good. Like, how do you hate a team that does this over and over and over again? Do I think that the traditions, you know, like the stuff they do in the fields, like cool, not really. The sororities on Tik TOK are currently making like kind of a splash,

but like, I think, yeah, underrated. Like I, I like, even if I don't like the company, I respect like greatness.

And, uh, I think that's what Alabama is. This year will be interesting though. No more Nick Saban. We'll see what happens. But yeah, I'd say under, I'd say under. There you go, Joey. Some insider information on the roll tide while you were away. Um, we got, we got all a look and look behind the SEC curtain.

The NASCAR car is doing well then. Yeah, okay. It flipped over. It flipped over. Keeps on flipping. It keeps on flipping. All right, this one's close to home in many ways. The Home Depot five-gallon bucket, unpaid or underrated?

You want to answer that one for me, Nathan? No, I want you to answer this one. Underrated. Underrated. I mean, the Homeot five like it has homer on it it's like you can do it we can help that beat is so good you can make a squat rack with that and a bag of ready mix concrete and some two by fours um the the home depot decided to post a picture during COVID of someone with a squat rack. But yet, even though my brother was POO, they didn't use the one that we made. They made a random like that bucket.

Like I love our brothers in western northeast South Dakota, but like Menards will never shake a stick at Home Depot. Like that bucket is as good as it gets. I hate anyone that goes to Lowe's. I love it. I never heard of Menards until Massanomics podcast. Because you're not Midwest. You're not Midwest. Me neither.

Neither are you. Midwest is the entire country. Huh? What? Yeah, wait, sorry. Yeah, he's in Ohio and they hate hearing that. My sister-in-law works at a Menards in Ohio, so relax. I live in upstate Midwest.

Shout out to Sydney. Shout out to Tim Eckberg. You are not Midwest. It was a joke. I said upstate Midwest. Upstate Midwest. It was funny because the Davids all figured out themselves. Statler and Waldorf over there.

These fucking dummies. Sorry, I'm not good at my language. I'm running out of... I've got notes everywhere. I've got two monitors. Is this where I put the script? I've got a 36-inch screen, but I got... Let him do one more, and then we'll...

Yeah. So I had a bunch of coffee questions because coffee always gets brought up on the unpaid and underrated podcast and i got a lot of coffee thoughts and joey always talks about coffee the problem is i don't have any good unpaid or underrated coffee topics so i guess we'll just save that for the next time grants on we can we can go down a coffee nerdery um next time i guess i guess the question will pose to you coffee related i think it's important we touch on this um six bars of pressure to brew coffee unpaid or underrated are we calling it coffee or are we calling it espresso well i wouldn't call anything espresso because there's no x in express, Grant. So just shut up.

I'm about to kick him. How many bars do you need for espresso? You can ask the SECAA if you want to know that question. You need nine bars. So I sell a barrica pot on our site made in Italy. I actually made my hometown. When I say my hometown, I mean where my grandfather was from. He came off the boat.

It's made in Milan. You can go there and see Palazzo dei Parogi. It's right downtown in Milan and the Bialetti shops right there. Nine bars of pressure. I didn't know this. I started selling Bialetti Ricapaz and I was like, I'm an espresso guy. I love espresso. I love coffee. I'm the guy. And I posted on Reddit. I was like, great, great espresso. And I got roasted by an Italian. Like, oh, you're going to come to me with a stovetop

espresso maker? Espresso is not about the roast. It's about the pressures. So your question was six bars under nine underpaid or underrated unpaid or underrated yeah uh unpaid yeah you gotta have nine bars yeah trying to find the uh the official the official definition of espresso by the sccaa just so we're all here we go on the same like an ssc a starting track coach no it's the

sccaa which is the specialty a coffee association of america um and it would define espresso as this one it's spelled with an s um to espresso is a 25 to 37 milliliter sorry grant um beverage prepared from 7 to 9 grams, or 14 to 18 grams for a double shot of coffee through which clean water of 195 to 205 degrees Fahrenheit, 90 to 96.1 Celsius for Joey, has been

forced at a 10 to 9 atmospheres of pressure, and where the grind of the coffee is such that the brew time is 20 to 30 seconds while brewing. The flow of espresso will appear to have the viscosity of warm honey, and the resulting beverage will exhibit a thick, dark golden crema. Espresso should be prepared specifically for and immediately served to its intended consumer. Listen, you take that back to Reddit and you say,

I don't see a problem with what I'm doing here. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I agree. So can I flip the script a little bit? You do whatever you want. It's your show. We're not professionals.

All right. Let's do a little FMK back at you guys. And I'm going to start with Joey. Can I reach Jim Carrey or Justin Trudeau? The last one. Justin Trudeau? The last one. Justin Trudeau is the Prime Minister. Yeah. Who are you, Joey?

Prime Minister of Canada. Oh, yeah. So you knew the first two. Yep. Got the first two. FMK. Well, I mean, he's a politician, and my patience for them is slim, so we're going to K. Okay.

We're going to K that guy but also he doesn't matter he won't be around in a couple years Jim Carrey, Kanata Reeves that is hard because both of them are in my favorite movies of all time dude Jim Carrey would be wild yes

they're not Canadian are they? yes they're not Canadian are they yes they are I did my research I had a lot of form fields going out I would say we're going to F Jim Carrey because you know like

I actually just watched Ace Ventura on Saturday I just sat with my wife I got home from work and I was like you know what I'm going to watch something stupid and I actually just watched Ace Ventura on Saturday. I just sat with my wife. I got home from work and I was like, you know what? I'm going to watch something stupid. And Stone Sober sat and watched Ace Ventura Pet Detective and still laughed my ass off as hard as I ever had.

Okay. However, a lot of his more recent stuff is kind of weird. Not sure I love all of his more recent stuff is kind of weird not sure i love all of his movies um so that's gonna marry canna reeves because canna reeves um and this isn't very argumentative fact uh is one of the greatest action movie stars of our time uh every hot take i like hot takes nate's in a burning building i like hot takes every movie he's been that has been an action movie has been a groundbreaking and

trend-setting action movie speed the matrix john wick has set the precedent for action movies every time they come out and he was in all of them. Then he does some weird stuff where he's like an animated dude with like drawing over his face and like, because he's also just a decent actor.

But, I mean, he's also Bill and Ted. So he is almost as iconic as Jim Carrey. So you're going to marry him? Yeah, we're going to marry,

we're going to marry Ken Reeves. Americans are here to get you to the point. Good. I don't want to hijack your show for too long. Now do it. It's your show. You're the garage gym nerd. Nathan's screwed because I'm going to ask him the deepest takes.

You're the garage gym nerd. Which I appreciate. I love garage gym nerd which I appreciate I love garage gym nerds they make my business work I don't mean that as negative at all FMK garage gym reviews

garage gym experiment based on Brandon oh experiment reviews okay so kill Coop. Uh, uh, F F G G E and Mary Brandon, I guess like only cause I love Jake and garage gym experiment and like with under, with the garage gym experiment, you get home gym con and all that.

But like, as far as just content consumption, like Jake doesn't really make much content he's just more of the he's the media he's the mediator almost at this point and like does his podcast everything and i enjoy all that immensely but brandon like i bought shit solely off watching brandon's reviews in the past and like you know so yeah i think that's fair and not to say like i i gave koopa i i gave you know? So yeah, I think that's fair. And not to say like, I, I gave Cooper, I, I, I gave, you know, I was known as like the coop hater for probably about two years there when

he was in denial about pillar four and would never address it. But since he actually like came out and actually publicly acknowledged it, which is literally all I like, I think the community really wanted him to do for the past three or four years. It's like, just stop lying to people. Just stop,

stop literally lying and by omission, like it is still a lie. Lying by omission is a worse than omission is a worse than lying almost so the fact that he doesn't do that anymore and actually came out about it like i mean i'm still i don't watch half his content because it's all like look watch me rate this important piece of shit that no one cares about anymore but i don't know but uh yeah no i think it was good i think i think it was really well put all right nathan oh boy what do you think what do you think the topic is i don't know. But yeah. No, I think it was good. I think it was really well put. All right, Nathan. Oh, boy. What do you think the topic is?

I don't know. I literally don't know. I'm not a professional. I'm literally never on this podcast. I don't even know how to do this. Isn't it Patrick Bateau? Yeah, it's past mine. That's for sure. But I told my wife, I was like, you know, the guy that paints his fingernails from Canada?

She's like, yeah. I was like, I'm going to his podcast it might be a while um so uh john piper okay mark driscoll oh gosh jerry fallow jr oh gosh um we need some context uh These are all preachers. John Piper is reformed, which means God selects people that are going to be saved, I guess you could say.

Great explanation. He also has some hot takes lately that maybe aren't the same as what the Southern Baptists would think on, what do you say, biblical marriage. That's John Piper. Jerry Falwell Jr. went to Florida. He ran Liberty University, Christian pastor's dad, Jerry Falwell. But then he went down to Florida, bought a condo, and had a threesome with some

pool boy and his wife. It was kind of a disgrace. I already forgot my third. Driscoll. The Driscoll business. Driscoll was like... But the pool boy was the third. I don't know. He ran around and told

young men that they needed to be... I don't even know how to explain Mark Driscoll. I can't know. He ran around and told young men that they needed to be... I don't even know how to explain Mark Driscoll. I can't. But it's all Southern Baptist stuff. It's very in Nathan's wheelhouse. There you go, Nathan. Describing John Piper as Southern Baptist stuff is very funny because he's like the inverse of Southern Baptist.

Yeah, he's not Southern Baptist. I was trying to... When you talk broad strokes broad strokes broad strokes yeah um yeah uh shout out to shout out before i before i kill him yeah um so you know shout out to my boy miles you know he shot our our unpaid and underrated uh-shirt collab video. Graduate of the Liberty University. Go Flames. My brother went there.

My oldest brother went there. Go to Flames. Go Flames. Go Home Depot. Go Lawyer stuff. The whole business. Jerry Falwell Jr. I don't need to keep him around. I don't need any pool boys in my life. I agree.

Bulls are expensive. Money Pit. i don't need any poor boys in my life um i agree uh those are expensive money pit i don't need that around i want to be uh economical with my money uh john piper um desiring god hey what are you going to do with your retirement are we collecting seashells the whole nine yards i read some john piper this morning. Good stuff. You're marrying him. Yeah, I'd definitely marry John Piper. However, shout out to a podcast that doesn't exist anymore. A lot of those. What is the name of it? I just forgot the name of it. But his son Barnabas.

Driscoll's? No. John Piper's son, Barnabas, hosted a podcast for years. And he would tell stories about his dad. John seems like a hilarious man. Yeah, he's a good guy. So his hair, his suits that never fit, he'd be great to have around. And if you know anything about Driscoll, you know he wrote some books about some stuff.

I know about Driscoll. So, I mean, if I'm going to. Yeah, yeah. As a Christian, you can't say what you're going to do. Yeah, I mean, you know, Driscoll, I mean, he seems pretty wild. But the only, I mean, you know, Driscoll, one of my favorite things I ever heard about Driscoll is after, you know, his whole falling out and whatnot. You know, him, you know, blowing up falling out and whatnot, you know, him, you know,

blowing up a bunch of people's lives, that whole situation, you know, his whole problem was he was just mean to people. And I heard somebody say, it's like, well, if you're going to blow up a whole ministry,

a whole church and all of this, like at least do something way worse than just be mean to people, like find a pool boy or something like you're just going to waste it on being mean. And I was just like, what a, what a wild take, okay that's uh that's something okay yeah okay yeah drisky business he's he's always out there he's he's always cooking um

but who do you think you are back up i didn't mean to turn it back on you guys but you know no that's that's part of the show yeah it's literally the last segment that was a that was a fun recap of the Righteous Gemstones. Yeah. Nathan and I are going to have lots of Driscoll tech set for this. Yeah, Drisky business. All right. What do we do now? I think we round it out.

It's been two and a half hours. I was trying to go for the record, so we haven't done an incredibly long episode. So I've got 60 more topics. Everyone buckle down. Everyone log off and let Nate just talk to us. Yeah, fuck that. So Pandora. Pandora. What about Pandora?

We didn't even get to Pandora music. I waited until the last 10 minutes to drink a beer. Like, let's go. Pandora is so good. Pandora is so unpaid. It's so unpaid it's so unpaid like I am on Spotify because you get married and if you get I'm sorry I'm just going to have my

for a second and I feel like I'm in a safe space but like if you get married in your 30s you guys already have your life's gone but then you both decide like hey you know what we don't need two Amazon accounts we can have one Amazon account. And you decide like, hey, we need to do these things.

Man, I switched to Spotify and I hate it. I hate everything about it. Pandora One is the best for playlists for music. I miss it so much. I hate Spotify. I hate it. Come over to hate Spotify. I hate it. Come over to Apple Music. It's great. Yeah, I use Apple Music.

It's actually, interestingly, not as good as Spotify for suggesting things. So a lot of the bands I listen to now... Grant's a hipster. You don't need anything. Oh yeah, he's on Pandora. Yeah, that makes sense. Alright, guys.

Pandora 1. Get it right, Joey. Sorry, not Pandora. Yeah, that makes sense. All right, guys. Pandora 1. Get it right, Joey. Get it right. Sorry, not Pandora 2 or 0. It's Pandora 1. And not the box, okay? Don't let him out of that one. All right, guys.

You know the drill. Go ahead and use our affiliate links. We got Obsidian Ammonia, Barbell Rescue, Plate Snacks, Home Gym Con, Code Unpaid. I'll save you a little bit on all those. Barbell Rescue, Plate Snacks, Home Gym Con, Code Unpaid. I'll save you a little bit on all those. And Instagram, Unpaid and Underrated Podcast, website, unpaidinternpodcast.com.

We've got a YouTube that Nate throws some stuff on every now and then. And then, Big Grant, where are they going to find you at, buddy? www.strength.co. Wait, should I have a link for you guys? Sure. Why wasn't I named? Yeah. Can we do like 10% link for you guys? Sure. Why wasn't I named? Yeah. Like, can I, like, can we do like 10% off of all merch? Sure.

We can do anything you want. It's your show. Yeah. Let's do it. Yeah. We're not professionals. Now, can we get that backdated for like any, any crew that's bought? No, shut up.

Going forward. No, no. Screw the crew. Screw the crew. Grant, what if they're a veteran though? Can we give them a discount then? Veteran owned or veteran? Now is it a veteran founded?

First responders. Yes. I really love first responders. Yeah. Okay. We got you. And that's just people on the Instagram comments, right?

Those are the first responders. Yeah, no, it's the Canadian hospital workers. That's what I'm here for. Me too, actually. Yeah. Yeah. yeah no it's the Canadian hospital workers that's what I'm here for me too actually yeah if you want to do that is that like a code that you want to add

yeah I'll give you a code when I talk on Instagram who am I talking to everyone usually Keith we're talking to Tanner actually Tanner runs our social but I can also send you

because you're on iPhone right yeah it's 2024 of course be on iPhone I'll send you my number too and then you can also just text me that kind of stuff too but through the Instagram it's usually Keith but yeah no that sounds great

I like Keith. Yeah. That's very well. I suck. That'd be awesome. John Piper. Now people are going to try to put that in and be like, why didn't it work? And I'm like, it's Code Unpaid, but we appreciate it. No, that'd be awesome.

We try not to fish for those, but anybody that wants to, you know, throw us comments, it helps out a lot. That's what she said. Yeah. Ignate. We're going to find you. You can find me.

Huge news. Glaze Search just picked up in notoriety this week. I launched a new web app called B Walk Clock dot com. It tracks the. Price of Bitcoin. The price of the price, theon walker has left on his contract a big sec guy for you grant um but uh it has my it has my link tree in it and the world has found glaze search and they don't know what to do with it people outside of the crew have stumbled into

glaze search and they are confused about everything. You might have to explain to Grant briefly what the question is. I feel like I'm pretty deep in all the inside jokes, and I have no idea what you're talking about. GlazeSearch.com, check it out. It's the best website that's ever graced the internet. As a Christian, am I allowed to Google that? Absolutely. That's the best question ever.

Will Covenant Eyes flag this or not it shouldn't i don't know it did my covenant eyes partner the longest outro we've ever had a little um sorry no no no this is great we just we made a our speedboat money back so we're yeah hey glaze search.com if you want to find me apparently that's back in in full swing again. Maybe not. I don't know. Maybe Strongman. Strongman scoreboard. You can find me there. We're building stuff for the Strongman community. I'm actually excited for that.

That is out there. That's actually dope as shit. I've been telling everybody about that. Tell them because in my 30 minute bits of time that I get between life and kids, hey, we'll build an app and we'll sell it. No discounts. I'm following the grant. The grant methodology. Everybody pays full price. Daggone it. You know how much

credit card processing fees are? Forget this. No discounts. I gotta pay for servers. So yeah, find me on the internet. I don't know what my handles are. bwalkclock.com Check it out. Oh, I guess that leaves me. Joey underscore Malesko M-L-E-C

Zed K-O But more importantlyC-Z-K-O. But more importantly, follow Unpaid and Underrated. Leave me alone. And that brings out to you, Keith. Big Keith on Instagram, KeithHoneycutt73. Go follow my orange jam, The No Wine Seller, and we'll see you next Tuesday.