Unpaid And Underrated - 076 : That's Druthers Inducing

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Jim. They dive right into some great topics like metal, New York City comutes, self help books, Kabuki, and the legend Brad The Pad. Links Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @_jim_riley_ (https://www.instagram.com/_jim_riley_/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Jim.

And welcome back to episode 725 of the unpaid and underrated podcast. I'm one of your hosts, big Keith joined as always by my good buddy here, big Joey. Hello there. And we have special guests crew this week. Big Jim. How you doing buddy? Good. How you guys doing?

Welcome. Welcome to the podcast. Jim Jim Riley correct? Correct. Awesome cool just want to get that out there. So Jim what do you what do you what do you drinking this week buddy? Well I got a polar cranberry lime and the back that up, I got some water. Now, was that water, a wadda? Water. Water. How do we say that on this episode? Well, I'm green, so we say water.

Yeah, that's close enough, right? New York City accent. There you go. There you go. So I got a FairLife protein this week. So I'm going to remind Joey again. This is very accessible to him. He's just going to go and and buy it because he's always talking

about wanting to hit some more protein. So super easy, kind of expensive, but super convenient. And then I've got a orange cream bubbly. After that, I I'm actually back to kind of regular weight. I think I cut back a bit on the zins, which helped increase my appetite started eating a little more calorie dense rather than just like sandwiches and vegetables. So I actually weighed back in around 163 today, which was dope. Cause getting under 160 just hurt.

I don't know why I felt like lighter and like must like, but you know what I mean? Like I didn't feel strong. Then you get into a bar and you're like, Oh, okay. That, that extra 10 pounds probably helped. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I'm that extra ten pounds probably helped. Yeah. Yeah I'm drinking a Mitchell o blight. I Got myself a puppers

So get this guy a fucking poppers. That's a mick ultra. That's not a mick Is there a mickle o blight and a mickle and there is a mickle o blight, right? That's like a different thing That's a mickle o blight. I believe it is look at you. You you beer connoisseur There's if there's one thing I know it is if there is one very small thing in the beer market, I know is what I'd make. Ultra can looks like. Actually, the cranberry lime that you're drinking there. Have you guys ever heard of the bog spiders? No, I get it. Okay. I learned this today and I'm sure I'll get corrected if I'm wrong,

because sometimes my information comes in. But so cranberries are native to North America. Okay, so they're mostly well like the upper regions in North America, maybe your battle. But what they do is they use wolf spiders. You guys ever seen a wolf spider? Okay, they're big mother fucker. Yeah.

So they'll actually use them as pest control because it's cheap and easy. And of course, they're just natural habitat. But when you harvest cranberries, all you do is throw them in the water. You just knock them off a bush and they float because they're hollow.

But what happens is all the wolf spiders go with them. So what will spiders do is they want to crawl on the tallest thing to get out of the water, which is usually the farmer standing in the water. Apparently, yeah, apparently it's a thing for cranberry to just be absolutely covered in wolf spiders. Wolf spiders do bite. They're not poisonous or anything or sorry, venomous.

Yeah, they're not venomous But they're their bites don't feel good. So yeah, I learned that today since you see a cranberry and I was just like this I just had a floor is lava moment Sitting across like to get my fucking feet off the floor. Oh, yeah, that's creepy I can't wait for someone to correct me like no fucking dummy It's because of this. So I'm a very anti-climactic, what are we wearing this week?

Cause my only mastanomic shirt is a dirty deadlifter shirt in my gym bag in the van, way too far away to go get. So no mastanomic shirt for me this week. What about you Jim, what you wearing? I got the pocket seat. Hell, yes. Nice. I'm wearing I was going to do a sack segment and then realized I don't need to. I am wearing my new coach carp shirt.

Nice. Yeah, it's got Carps Gym on it. He mailed me one, some pioneer stickers, some some Carps Gym stickers sent me a Masonomic sticker, and a nice little letter to which it says, Big Joey, look forward to seeing you deadlifting in a Karen-cut Carp's Gym shirt. I don't think I can get Karen to cut it, so I will just have to try and mimic her style. But yeah, these sleeves are probably coming off. However, maybe not, because this is actually a really soft, good blank.

Yeah, I think he did a couple of runs of those. I think he did just like a more more cotton when to begin with. And he did a poly blend that I jumped in on a couple of months ago. It's a very comfortable shirt. This this might this might be the blend. I ripped the tag off like within seconds of putting it on. So I don't I didn't look at what it was made of. But yeah, if it shrinks at all, then these sleeves are definitely going to get yeeted.

So how about Brad the pad taken over the world today? That was amazing. Like I was, I saw it briefly this morning because I think it was, I think the discord was chirping about it before I had to actually punch in. But I didn't look at my phone and from like eight to five o'clock basically, and then Tanner had posted it and like there was a whole Instagram thing going on with it. And just, you know, obviously I know, unless nature know who Brad the pad is good friend of the podcast, you know,

at least 50 memes were posted today, maybe, maybe 30, but several, several memes, Tanner got in on it and made a whole reel explaining who Brad the Pat is, which I thought was great. That might be the most featured crew posts I've ever seen. I thought that was amazing. That's definitely what the Instagram page was needed to finally get strong. I thought that was great. Did you guys get a chance to consume all that? Yeah, definitely. It was definitely great. It's good to see him finally getting the respect he deserves. That was a tough job to do. Sure was. So for those of you who maybe missed it, because like, obviously, time is a flat circle. So everything in discord goes very fast. One of

the Davids posted just a superimposed Brad from the lift hardly be the event, throwing the pad under the Titanic. And then, um, big Kevin RSG said like, uh, are there any other natural disasters that we probably shouldn't, but will manipulate with Brad the pad and it went off and I think two of mine got featured in the reels one was kind of cropped wrong, but people were just doing like the Hindenburg and Humpty Dumpty. And I threw one under at the Waterworld poster because you know, that wasn't a natural disaster, but it was a financial disaster. My niche one that I'm not sure a lot of people got was when the tower from Game of Thrones killed Oberon the Viper And everybody lost their mind.

Yeah, I was like, this is going to be so niche, but I'm. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely made it in there. So, yeah, that was really fun. I even threw it in a Halifax explosion one, but I guess that was a little too niche that it didn't get in. Reels. Matt mostly squats had the one with Michael Hearn, which was great.

And the Kurt Cobain one was great, too. Oh, but he also did one with with Superman on the horse before. Oh, yeah, the Christopher Reeves one. I didn't love that one. Wasn't a fan of like that one was on and I felt bad for that one. I was explaining them. I was I was showing Morgan and I was like, hey, here's some catch up on the Discord because these are really funny.

And I showed her that one. She's like, I don't get it. I was like, oh, now i have the luxury of explaining that there was a there was a there was a kurt kobain one which is probably a little too gruesome but i i i laughed uh the one with kabuki was hysterical with duffin oh yeah yeah um chad threw one in there with me and the italian restaurant in freaking aberdin which is great what was is great. What was the one that Ryan posted where it was like, where you said, oh no to, and it was just like a blurred out image. Oh, okay.

So the wood panel in the back. So that was when the singer of one of the original black metal bands blew his head off and the guitarist or the other way around, I can't remember, but the the one that's still alive is Vard and he went and took pictures and collected pieces of the skull to wear it a necklace. So yeah, that one was very niche and probably like only me, Matt and Ryan got it.

And if anybody else did awesome for you, but I was just like, oh no, that's oh yeah. And then there's the code Chad made it made a Kobe Bryant one with a helicopter, which I wasn't a fan Like there was a couple there just like oh man. That's just too that's too sad But uh 99% of my laugh my ass off at so well well done crew well done Tanner to give everyone their props on Instagram today That was pretty cool to see yeah, yeah, and that fact that he posted that real was really cool. So yeah, I loved it. Um, I had a good so I'm out of town this week. And so I can only take so much sparkling water with me because usually I drink one or two a day, but it's pain in the ass to like pack a whole bunch of you know, drinks like that. But

I was, and I go into, you know, customers homes to do service work all day long, and I almost never get offered anything. And when I do, it's like an apartment you wouldn't feel comfortable eating or drinking in half the time. But this week was the exception. I was like, you know, two very nice young girls I was talking to, shooting the shit with for a while.

I think we were talking about freaking Grey's Anatomy or something, because it was on TV. And I was talking over like 10, 15 minutes while I was doing my work in there. And they were like, oh, I was getting ready to leave. And they were like, do you want a sparkling water on your way out? And I was like, what do you mean a sparkling water?

I was like some people mean like they might mean like like like that carbonated seltzer water that has no flavor or something like like something that I wouldn't have enjoyed and I and she showed me she Had like she had she had lime bubbly and I was fucking a right. I want to This is amazing cuz I am like I had was almost been going through the draw because I hadn't had one in like a day Or two. I was like, this is amazing because I am like I had was almost been going through the draw because I hadn't had one in like a day or two. I was like, this is amazing. This is literally perfect. And then I immediately drop it on the goddamn floor and have to wait a couple hours to even drink. I think I waited like an hour to pop it open. I was like, motherfucker. But yeah, I just want to give those girls a shout out.

Hands were shaking. Yeah. I was like, ugh. So I just thought that was that was nice. So I just thought that was that was nice. So, um, so you crossed out a couple things. You got this Kabuki follow up TLDHR. I mean, I think Nate had joked about if we were if there was gonna be a too long didn't read basically a quick follow up.

So our friend Jake over at Garage Jam experiment had the new owner of Kabuki on. He basically gave a very, very detailed description from his point of view of what happened in the last 18 months or so with his dealings with Duffin and Kabuki in general. So, long story short, they gave Kabuki a line of credit. This gentleman and his son, I believe they have their own little business, essentially. They're just entrepreneurs that are in a wire manufacturing business. There's nothing to do with sports or anything, just big investor people. So I gave Kabuki a $2 million line of credit with the collateral being all the IP, like basically the entire company was the collateral. They burned through the $2

million relatively quick and did nothing with it, did not turn a profit whatsoever, took some other loans, defaulted on them. That gentleman took over Kabuki, let go, let the CEO go, promoted Duffin to be the CEO. Duffin did nothing to like progress the company in the few months that he had. They let Duffin go and now they're moving the whole plant to South Carolina. Basically quit making most of their bars and they're trying to pivot to see what the market wants them to do. And I don't know, they don't see too much good coming out of it. I don't see them innovating anything else or ever producing anything they did.

Their thing they're trying to sell right now is a, like, like a squat harness pad thing that you can kind of hook up to a belt squat, which to me is counterproductive to what a belt squat is. It's supposed to take all the pressure off your upper body, not put a SSB yoke essentially on your shoulders to then tie into a belt squat. What? They did release a new version of the transformer bar, which I don't fucking like. It's like the 19th transformer bar, you know.

Who asked for that? Not my cup of tea. But then... Sorry, man. Yeah, they're also doing like an SSB attachment that's basically, it's like other companies have been making something like this for years, and there's just not that much of a market for it.

But essentially, it'll just clamp to an existing straight bar and put safety squat bar handles coming out of it. So it's still in many of the chamber. The only thing I could see, my buddy who's going to get one as a free test or whatever, I was like, just try it and try it for front squats. Because if I could add that to a regular barbell and be able to get front squats without whatever

the mounting mechanism it is way in my way, that would keep me from having to buy. Because there's companies that make front squat bars, which are basically like an axle with handles coming out, which would allow me to get a good front rack position without having to cross my arms and you know if it was a hundred dollars and it would basically allow me to front squat perfectly maybe I'd consider it but I don't think it's gonna do what I want it to do so I don't know I think Kabuki is more or less dead or will be dead in the next couple years so that was the too long didn't read or well too long didn't listen

because it was like an hour-long podcast But the guy had opened up like he went it was crazy. Like I'd never heard anyone actually throw like specific numbers he was like two point four million dollars and six hundred thousand dollars and like very very detailed of like specifics and was very very very interesting And that was my story Did very very interesting And that was my story Did uh Oh, yeah, so dotzilla and a is his uh His custom ask did you order that?

No, what did he did he order that from skinny idiot sudeah or skinny idiot idiot? Yeah, dude I didn't make it himself. I'm not sure. No, no, that one was custom. Dope. Dig it. Um, do you guys get a chance to watch the YouTube video? I think it came out Friday. If I recall the, uh, the Jujie grip challenge with the, the, the, the typing test and before, and after where Tanner somehow got better or stayed the same at typing. I did watch that one. Actually most of it.

I don't have zero reviews because I was also I think doing dishes while I had it playing. Yeah, what about you, Jim? You got to tell us you got to carry it. We need like three minutes of Jim talking about it. Yeah, no, I watched it was very very interesting. I'm not a good typer. So to me just their typing was impressive. But it was good to see the chalk up before you use a gripper and different techniques to close them. So I always enjoy their videos.

When was I... I recall, right? Juju just threw chalk in Tommy's face. He had a literal bukkake of chalk on his face the entire episode was great. Which makes sense for the episode where they, you know they sat down and interviewed him with Tommy was filled with chalk so it'll kind of make sense. Made more sense now looking back on it. I think one thing Stephanie had pointed out is it might not be necessary that Tanner wasn't feeling

the pain that the other guys were. I think he just had a different technique of the way his wrist work like he was basically he was he was like zero for her arm or the other guys were using their their forearms I like to kind of the type where because I don't know my wife like you know types all day and she was like I can see what he's doing different and I could see how he could like kind of still be able to type because it's just all fingers. So that that was kind of interesting. My wife actually watched the majority of that with me and enjoyed it. My wife. Which will, before we get into reading last week's episode, I just wanted to, you know, say kudos to last week's, you know, guest, the crew wives. I thought that was an amazing episode. I think it was one of our most well received episodes. I had multiple people DM us had multiple people, you know, shout

us out in the discord and, you know, said they enjoyed it, said they, you know, found this tidbit or that tidbit. And, uh, I think all the guests enjoyed it. So what did, uh, did Morgan have any feedback after the fact or no, no, she was listening to it, but it's been a shitty week. Not, uh, not, not necessarily to the episode, but I guess the, uh, the act of being on and recording or anything. because I know Stephanie was very nervous going into it, but had a blast. The same. Yeah, she was kind of nervous going in. She was nervous all day in pain because of her tooth. But at the end, she was just like, actually, I like I enjoyed that.

I had fun. I was like, yeah, I knew I knew you would. I I think I want to get in recording. It was funny because like obviously recorded in separate rooms just for the audio quality and whatnot And I was like do you kind of get it what I do kind of get like what I do every week and how awesome It is and like this is just fun. You just shooting the shit for two hours I guess is the most fun thing ever so she was like yeah I definitely a little bit under a little better understanding of what you do and why you enjoy it so much I was like thought that was cool. They might give her get her

To be less angry with me some nights when we're like, you know, I'm in the spare bedroom, fucking like laughing my ass off at 1130 at night. All right. You want to rate last week? The Greg. Yeah. Greg Nichols episode.

Yeah. I, uh, let, let Jim, what, what do you think, buddy? What, what did you, how did you enjoy it? What's your rating? All that? Uh, I enjoyed it. I did really never knew all that much about him. I know he was on the podcast before, so it's always good to hear something new. I would definitely give it five JD Power Awards. Yeah, I mean, every episode I like. So it's, you know, it's a, they're just, I just really enjoy them and you guys.

Everything they do is always pretty good. I like them. Mad Fientist... Perfect. We appreciate it. That's nice to be listed in good company like them. I'm sure they'll appreciate me listed in the same sentence as us. It's bound to help their reputation to be listed with the Unpaid Underwriter podcast.

I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. I liked all the the I liked when Tanner was throwing him the the the old timey strongman guy and trying to see if he knew who he was. And then he responded with basically like the the shepherd that was like the Marathe that basically broke the world record marathon just because he just didn't stop. He just didn't take a break. He just shuffled for fucking like four days straight or whatever the fuck it was I thought that was very entertaining My favorite parts I guess was knuckles talking about his mom the first

I've ever if I recall right the first time she ever got under a bar Basically, she worked up to fucking 315 and just like dunked it and was like we're good I'm like what the fuck like there's there Like there's crew that probably can't squat 350. There's a crew, there's male crew that can't squat 350. Yeah, that's unacceptable. So I don't know how that was very impressive. And then I just loved hearing about like, you know, he's got these monster giant family members

and his like uncle just fucking overhead pressed 405 for reps, which I thought that's where the story was going. I was like, oh this is gonna be so funny cuz like just squatting 400 Or 405 for it's so pretty cool. But like it's not that impressive but to fucking overhead press, which it's like really did you Like I almost felt it I almost felt it was too hard to believe like How the fuck can you not lift for 20 years and then rep out 405 overhead press? How's that possible? Because that means you'd have to, at your peak,

almost overhead press five or 600 pounds, which, theoretically, there are people that do that, but fuck, 405 overhead for reps is just baffling to me. So for all that, I will go ahead and give it five out of five Greg Knuckles mothers. Oof. Um, yeah. Or sitting at the family reunion and his cousins are like, yo, you haven't hit an 800 pound pole yet.

Oh, yeah. Like, just pick it up. Like, shut up. Thought you were really into this lifting thing. Yeah. Yeah. He was like, Oh yeah. You just got started. Hey, like it into this lifting thing. Yeah, yeah. He said, oh yeah, you just got started. Hey, like, it's your first time.

I thought that was pretty good. Yeah, the shepherd that I think Kevin gave us some more insight. He just lived on his mom's farm, just herding sheep, and then beat the second place person by 10 hours. Right? Like, just ridiculous. And but then ended up 61 years old, married a 23 year old. So, yeah.

But I mean, good episode. There were some good laughs. You could tell he kind of gets it right. It's always better when the guest gets it. And so yeah, for that one, I'm going to give that five out of five straight days of chasing sheep. One follow-up I had is I didn't I didn't I obviously I know what macro factor is. I didn't know that Knuckles was macro factor.

And I assume I don't know if he was. So that one kind of was like, oh, didn't know that. So neither that was shocking. I also didn't know that. Who's Chris Duffin like? What about Jim? Did Jim know before the episode that um, right? His name Knuckles was macro factor. He I didn't know that either. So I don't know. It's so, so many people doing different stuff.

It's hard to keep track of anything anymore, honestly. But, uh, big Jim, you got a, a mass nomics ad read. You want to hit us with? Sure. Are you looking for a podcast that'll help you get strong, stay strong, and use your strength? Do you rate your crispy boys in sparkling water using JD Power Award system? Do you want to know what's in Tanner's sack or if Tommy has seen it? Well, I have the podcast for you. It's the boys from western, northeast South Dakota called Mastomix. They release a new podcast every week where you're guaranteed to have a silly goose time and their apparel will have you the best dressed in any situation you find yourself in. From there, you can always join the crew. Some people call us

a cult or gang, but we're way stronger and sillier than any cult. All we ask is don't be a bozo and you will be welcomed in. Bozo's a good one. Nice. That's a good one. Well done, Jim. Appreciate that, buddy. Well, you want to kick. I mean, the only looky loo this week is carp or loyal fan. I guess we had to kick him out and then see if we can get Jim on the phone. All right. Yeah. Get ready. Hey, Big Jim, is that you? I'm here.

Hey, welcome to unpaid and underrated the podcast for crew by crew and relentlessly mocked by crew and now even some people outside of crew Still looking for who that Ireland listener is every week we got one person in Ireland that downloads this episode and I've no clue who that is and it's kind of That was a that was a general topic We've actually touch space on briefly before we get in a gym Like what did what did it say our lifetime downloads was? Where do we eclipse 20K?

Is that what it was? I could have swore that was the most recent, which to me is just- I can find that right now. Yeah, 20K. I'm pretty sure that's awesome. Congratulations buddy. We did it.

We did it. Good job, Nate. Thanks buddy. Good work. I know we always, we always, I always say it, but like, I really, like it is a three legged machine here Like like, you know Joey and I are here every week doing all the the talking but without Nate

You know spending a couple hours a week or every does like this wouldn't happen because I'm not producing this shit Yeah, I wouldn't even know how yeah Do you want to do another job? so Big Jim we met at Lyft Hard Live Easy. We had a brief conversation, I think in the lobby of the hotel where I learned a little bit about you. But I think it's time to share it with everybody.

What brought you here to Mastinomics? Well, I basically I found them. I started working at that job, but I needed something to listen to and I was just somebody, one of my coworkers said that I should get into powerlifting because I just needed something to do. I want to get kind of in shape or at least somewhat in shape. And so I just went on YouTube and I just started, you know powerlifting podcast and mark Bell came up you know the power cast the original one and Matt Sonoma's just kind of came up as one of the recommended videos and That's probably I kind of started listening to him probably around episode like you in the 40s 50

So with that so they were kind of still new. Yeah, it was it was a three of them Tanner Tyler and Tommy and I mean, ever since then, I just kind of been listening every week, you know, it was easy to catch up on the backlog because it was like, you know, one day, within the other four days, I just would listen to like an episode each day, and I caught up on them pretty quick. And I've listened ever since. So that's how I got into Mastodonomics. And then the crew, I was like, you know, there's, I don't know, am I going to join every bonds? You kind of go back and forth.

And then finally one day I was just like, all right, let's let's do it. I did. And it's it's I mean, it's just great going into that discord. You know, there's so many laughs you can have and just so many really good people in there. Yeah, so you got a low number to your what's your number on your card? I was 60 and now I'm 41. That's crazy. You got us.

You got the you got us host beat, I believe. So if we get me beat. Yeah, at first I was I was a little disappointed. I don't wait a little longer to get 69, but I guess that would drop anyway. So did we find that has has anyone posted who the new 69 is? No, not yet. I don't think I've seen that. Who's the new 69 is.

I was 66 and I haven't received my new card, but that check out then you'll be six minus 18. So it'll be 40 ish, right? Yep. Which is crazy. How many? Yep. How many how many crew have dropped off? But, you know, the door is always open for me to get back in like a big, big,

big, big Matt left us and then came back in and it was a really high number. Oh, damn the arm tats too. He just came back. It was just like, Oh no, how long have you been gone? Did you miss the gift? Yep. So that's crazy, Jim, you've been listening for that long. That's a, and I love that.

How many people have found us from the powercast or like the Powercast kind of, because it definitely was like the catalyst, I think for a lot of crew to come here. A lot of us, yeah. But I feel like I had a bigger void between when the Powercast died and when I actually found like other enjoyable podcasts. So I'm almost envious that you kind of were able to,

you know, to springboard right into them so early. How has that been just watching them evolve, you know, from the three man show to what it is now to what it was in the middle? Like there's just such a huge, very few people probably that are still around have like been around for that many episodes, like from where they were coming out live, that is. Right. Um, I guess when it was the three of them, I thought that Tyler was like, you know, he was the entertainment, he was like the funny one. And they were kind of like more like the straight men, you know? So when Tyler left, I honestly didn't think they were going to make it. I just thought,

you know, they would they were too serious. And then, you know, the whole arm go with the plain ones, but lift shorts came out. And then like, from there, it's like they have that personality started coming out late and I mean now I don't see them I mean if they stop it's because they want to stop it's not because you know they're not you know good podcasts and not entertaining so uh you know but I really didn't think they were going to make it uh but I'm glad they did because otherwise this whole community would have never happened. I know right. It's funny going the opposite direction because I'm now I'm probably just getting to where you just joined and I actually can see the Tanner sense of humor coming out right specifically where it's like at the end of every episode they go okay seriously Tanner is there anything else this time and like that's a

running joke throughout a lot of them and like that's I can kind of see it but that's a running joke throughout a lot of them. And like that's, I can kind of see it, but that's only cause I have the hindsight where I can see Tanner now. Whereas I can also see at the time where you wouldn't have seen that because like, Tyler was such an overwhelming voice and hosting so many episodes about CrossFit. And that was our, and I guess we'll call that our Joey,

And that was our, and I guess we'll call that our Joey, you know, road to the road, road to the backlog, I guess. We can't even, I, you know what? I promised I wouldn't say much. I'll just say that I gave a long expletive filled rant through text to Keith today. Just I think I'm on, I won't even say which episode, but I was just like, what the fuck is this? What are they talking about? They go, I like it was. Yeah.

Woo. Anyway, moving on. How about the, have you got it? Well, have you got to the ones where it's only Tyler just interviewing a random CrossFitter by them? Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Gotcha. So the ones where the Tommy and Tanner aren't even there and it's just like one off interviews. I'm like, oh The world talking about cross-visions Those good stuff sure it was necessary at the time All right, Jim. So I mean from from your accent. I mean if you didn't tell it, you know, you already told us earlier So you're you're from Texas, right? That's where you're at You know, you already told us earlier. So you're you're from Texas, right? That's where you're at

Yep, so you're you are you in are you actually in New York City or you're in like Jersey or something? Are you actually in New York City? I'm pretty close to Long Island, but I'm still in the city Nice. You are the let me you might be the second or you this you're the second New York State or then with me I think we had Cessna and then you I don't can't think of anybody else It's New York State. So I guess mark. Oh Yeah, so three. Yeah. Yeah good call Here I am like forgetting one of my best friends. Yes. Well, well then Well, the funny thing is just says me. She hasn't been on yet. Oh, okay that I've been on this podcast. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah So being on the podcast, where's your Hall of Fame status?

This puts me at 11 Nice. I'm right there. What's the next one? What do you think you'd give the best shot of hitting? Maybe the Arnold next year. I don't think I could do two balls And then it's my voice on the massonomics podcast and a contest winner. So those are the four I have left it Yeah, that is Yeah, 12 will still get you the cup right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's what that thing gets. That's that's that's that's that's very achievable. He's gonna Would you fly to Columbus or would you just have like a 12-hour draft?

Um, I don't know. I would have to see how much flights are. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'd be to be a long day in the car. Yeah. From Buffalo to Sioux Falls was like 300 bucks. So I can't imagine I can't imagine New York to to Columbus is that expensive. I don't know. I've paid like I paid like seven hundred dollars to go to like Kentucky or Indiana before. So it's all over the place. Yeah. It's a 12 hour layover.

Yeah, yeah. Another one is going to take me. Yeah, my my my my my my my my $300 flight. That's takes 36 hours to complete. That's no fun. Well, they won't be worth way over than coming home from the with our live easy classic. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So. So.

So you are a lift, you are a lift hard, live easy veteran. I know you were kind of nervous going into it. How was your experience? I mean, you know, probably met more people than you. You know, so many like minded people, I guess. Just tell me, tell me your point of view as someone that was I've been around for a very long time but not super active in discord or Instagram, almost a wild card and an unknown commodity even though you have been lurking for a long time.

So how was your whole Aberdeen experience? Aberdeen was basically what I thought it would be. Small little town. The crew was probably better than I expected. Not that I expected anything bad, but I think everybody was just really super supportive and super understanding and kind of understood it was my first one and they kind of made me feel welcome. You know, as far as the competition, it probably went as I expected.

My goal was to go 9 for 9. I went 8 for 9, but I can deal with that. There's always lift hard, lift easy, 3 that I can go 9 for 9. There you go. Yeah, that's kind of my goal, to get out there again next year and do a little better. I love it. Yeah, it was great. It was a great time, with the exception of the flight home everything else is great anything.

So let's get that i guess so we were you a sunday departure on monday departure what was your. I'm assuming you're probably a monday if you had all the big issues just lucky enough to get out on sunday like zero setbacks. But yeah, well I was supposed to I left Aberdeen on Sunday and I was supposed to then we have like an hour layover Whatever and Minneapolis St. Paul, but then my flight got delayed like three times and then I got canceled in the morning So I slept I slept there in the airport Wow like how to okay so Nick you have your keep a checked bag in your backpack or item of service? And you're just like, you just, you know, you'd lay up on the floor or you sprawled out over a couple of seats.

Like how are you sleeping in an airport? That doesn't sound good. Yeah, it wasn't. I'm thinking about like these little air mattresses, which were probably like an inch thick. And when you lay on the floor, but at least you weren't on the floor. Yeah, I use my duffel bag as a pillow

and that's how I slept That's that's I did the same thing Yeah, and my first layover. Yeah, I did the same thing. So it was like a nice nine-hour layover or something So I was like well, fuck it lay down All right, nobody else is here for three hours You might as well now The worst part is when the flight got canceled they were like well the best we can do is we can give you a flight for Thursday And I'm like Thursday. This is like fucking Monday

It was Sunday actually technically Jesus Christ and You can fly standby the whole time until Thursday if you can't get a flight then you least you're on a flight for Thursday I'm thinking to myself. I'm gonna do below week vacations sleeping in an airport You know, yeah, that's crazy. Oh, yeah, you were right. We just react work on Tuesday myself. I'm gonna do below week vacation sleeping in an airport. You know, that's crazy. You were right. We just work a Tuesday. I was supposed to Yeah. So um, so yeah, I just I just happened to get lucky. I caught a flight that just had one seat left on it Monday, like late afternoon. And I was able to get home. I don't know probably by like nine ten o'clock Monday night and then went to work the next day So also you still went to work so you didn't even necessarily affect your vacation time

You just like only got a couple hours of sleep, right? I'm just I'm so lucky. I didn't that no. Thanks. I'm not not envious or no. Yeah. Yes No, I'm not envious of all the shitty traveler when I was sad. So that sounds miserable. Well, the worst part is when we landed in Minneapolis, St. Paul, we were like, I don't know, like C 23 and I had to go to a 12 to catch my flight. And I had seven minutes to get there. So I just go. So I just went like a full out sprint across the airport, like, oh, Jay Simpson, you know, that old commercial. And I get there and I'm like, and I mean, I'm sweating, right?

Cause I mean, I, yeah, we're power lifters. We're not endurance runners. And I'm looking at the door and I see the plane and I'm like, I gotta get on the plane. I'm telling the person working at the desk and she just looks over at me and ignores me. And one of the guys is like, look at the board. We've been delayed like three hours.

And meanwhile, I'm like, now I'm sweating like, you know, just then sleeping in the airport. I feel bad for the guy next to me when I took the plane ride home. Finally, I probably stung. You know, it was what it was. I guess. So but, you know, luckily, you know, I got my bags a few days later and everything was still in there. And it could be worse, I guess. It's always something that could be worse.

Absolutely. So as far as so as far as, you know, so circa like 2018, 19, you got into lifting, or you got into quote unquote powerlifting. Were you already like going to the gym training at that point? What was your fitness journey looking like? Well, I guess I started probably lifting when I was younger, probably like maybe 13 or so. I had gotten a little, I guess you could say, thick for a kid and my mother's boyfriend at the time kind of just made me start working out to try to

lose weight. And I kind of like did it until I was 23. And then I tore my shoulder, my rotator cuff playing softball. And then I started getting into it again and I got into a car accident. I fractured my back, two vertebrae in my back. So that took a year to heal. And then by then I started becoming a commercial industrial electrician. So I took like a bunch of years off just because I mean just being out in

the elements and doing some you know heavy labor you know kind of was all I was doing. Working 12-15 hour days you're not gonna go to the gym. Right. And then in 2012 I started my job at the position I have now which is a desk job and I you, I started the position I have now, which is a desk job. I started saying, listen, I can't just sit here for eight hours a day and expect to be in decent shape. So I slowly started getting back into the gym, but it was kind of like the bodybuilding type style, like three sets of 10 or whatever, you know, and it's just, I was just, I used to do a lot of sets like when I was, when I was younger, but like, you know, I was probably my 35, 37, maybe when I started

working out again. So like my body just couldn't take it anymore. And like, I was getting all tendonitis and everything. I was all beat up and then coworker, I was like, well, why don't you start powerlifting? I'm like, I'm not strong enough, you know, the usual, I'm not strong enough to power lift. It doesn't matter, man. You can have a 700 pound usual I'm not strong enough to power lift Doesn't matter man Total and you're strong enough to power lift. They don't make it shit Plus the fact that like I thought about my doctors when I broke when I um fresh in my vertebrae They were like never deadlift and never squat because I have a vertebrae that's like kind of

It's not in line with the others It kind of sticks out and they're like, you know that can basically collapse and then you'll need back surgery And I'd like last thing I wanted was back surgery, you know, just to work out. But he forwarded me to PDF. It was the cube. I don't know if you guys heard of that, Brandon? Yep. Yep. That was my first experience with like doing a meat prep was the cube. I did the cube on and off for probably about two years when I was getting into this a decade ago. Right. And so I, one day I was just like, you know what,

what do I got to lose? I'll just go light, you know, my deadlifts, you know, 135, you know, and just take it from there. And, you know, that's basically where I started powerlifting. And then, you know, with COVID, you know, the gyms were shut down and all that. But yeah, it's been a couple of years that I've been going steady now, so. I'm pretty, you know, I'm obviously not 100% happy, but I'm happy with the progress I've made. How's the New York City gym scene? So like, wherever you live,

you probably do have a shitty commute to get to work? I think you were telling me that we'd kind of, initially we had to reschedule because you knew how long you'd be stuck in traffic coming home one night. Yeah, well, what it was is we used to go into the office two days a week, now it the office two days a week. Now it's like three days a week.

Well, one week it's three, one week it's two. So my third day in the week is Thursday. So that would be like my alternating day. And just so happened when I was scheduled was my day. I was on your. No, I wasn't giving you a hard time. That was more just like the whole I. My only experience in New York City was driving by it to go buy some gym equipment.

And I was like, just like, fuck that, I don't wanna go there. So what does your commute look like when you are going into the office? It's not bad. In the morning it's maybe 25, 30 minutes. Okay. At night it could be anywhere from like 35 minutes

to like four hours. Jesus Christ. Depending on the weather and everything, you know? Yep. Yep. So then what's what's your what's your public gym look like? Or I know I think you had mentioned potentially starting a home gym. It has I guess tell me about the public gym and then tell me if you've gotten the home gym off the ground yet. So the public gym, the one I go to now actually is probably the best one I've ever used. They have like, you know, deadlift

platforms and they have like, you know, bumper plates and it's not the best but it's better than, you know, the last time I went to like everybody would just throw the equipment around. So like, all the barbells were bent and the dumbbells anything over 60 was like a horseshoe, you know, which is horrible. But that's just the way it was. So it's not bad. I mean, it can get crowded and it can get crowded with like a lot of high school kids depending on when you go. So there's that.

And you got the guy who's always on the bench on his phone for a half an hour in between sets, checking in with the guy or whatever. Typical stereotypes are there. But for the most part, I can't complain. And as far as the home gym goes, that's actually something I'm still kind of working on, trying to get like equipment and stuff together

because as of, well, right now November 5th, I'm closing on a house. So I need the home before I can have the home gym. Yeah, no, no, that makes sense. That makes sense. That'll be awesome. I mean, I've reached out to you and you've given me some answers. And a few of you, you know, Tommy and. I mean, I've reached out to you and you've given me some answers

and if you're like, you know, Tommy and Scantz, I've reached out to with questions. So slowly but surely building it up, you know, so I kind of spend the money now on that. And then when I buy the house, you know, whatever renovations and whatever has to be done, I use that money then. So, well, that'd be a good place

to hang your unpaid underrated banner. Yeah, it Definitely would be. Yeah, you are the the proud owner of both of those pieces, the T-shirt and the banner. Yes, that leads to the question that we ask everybody now, especially somebody that's been around for as long as you. What is the one thing you said, I don't need to buy that. And now you wish you had it from Astonomics.

Blue. You do not you don't have the blue. No. No. I didn't realize like the rush there would be for them. Uh, I guess I wear a size large, so I guess it's kind of a popular size. And um, yeah, I was like, ah, I'll get to them. And then a few hours went by and I went on and I was like, ooh, sold out. So, but that's, yeah, that's the one thing I wish I had that I don't have.

Do I have blue lift shorts? No, there's no way. Yeah, I'm gonna say no, I don't. I definitely don't have them. I've got two black ones. But yeah, you're also the owner of number one bench. Yeah, shorts. Yes. Yes. If you look at my bench, my bench is my worst of all my lifts. So it's funny to me that I don't even remember the, I didn't even remember the bench shorts. And so I saw your post. Like, I think that had to be like, I was really new to crew. It was me prior to me really being into it. Because I was like, I don't remember these at all. Like, were they just the champion shorts with the bench. Yeah. Yeah Yep, and I was just like I looked at it I was like is this because I thought it was the blue lift shorts Which I've like heard about I think Matt owns a pair and I see him on Instagram every now and then but like I don't Remember seeing these at all. Like I Curious how many crew how many active crew still actually I'm curious how many active crew own some of these like heirloom pieces of like the the 100 limited because

Obviously by proof of everyone's numbers jumping up anywhere from 10 to 40 spots Like there's a lot of people that have bought shit that aren't crew anymore that have some of these limited, you know release items That's kind of neat. I have a I have a few right like I've got the curls shorts I've got I've got the red deadlifter shorts. Yeah, I got those. I got the lift shorts. I regret not getting those. I do like the maroon, but I wasn't sold on the logo at the time. But now I'd like to take my favorite logos.

The first time Morgan ever looked at me. Yeah, that's on brand. She's like, yeah, that's that's you. I just I try to limit the swearing on my clothes, but it kind of is what it is. Yeah, it just comes out of your mouth at top tier speeds. Well, it's but my mother-in-law is only going to see the clothes. I'm not listening to my podcast. No, we don't fucking shorts and say, look, fucking shit.

The fucking term. Yeah. I did want to get. So I do want to get back on you. So congratulations on closing the house. This is more of a New York City liver, not like your organ, but like someone who lives in New York City. Do you have to pay more to get shit shipped?

So like if you order a power rack and so say I order a power rack from Rogat and it cost me like $100 to pallet ship it or whatever. Like how much more is it going to cost to get into like some of these fucking boroughs and shit in New York City? Is there like, is there extra fees to get shit delivered in like the heart of New York City? To my knowledge, no, but where I'm buying the house isn't in New York City,

it's actually just north of New York City in Westchester County. Gotcha. So it shouldn't be that bad. I don't think there's really anything. I mean, I think it just goes more by like, where you live, like your region, more than the actual city. I mean, I'm sure if like, you know, where you live in like your region more than city. I'm

sure if I had to bring like a flight of stairs or something like that, yeah, I would probably, you know, think I want a little more. I feel like it's probably the opposite because in a condensed area population, they're delivering more packages. So therefore that cost is a little, you know, mitigated by the fact that they're delivering more to a small area so anything on travel would I guess but at the same time

You know extra for a lift gate like a lift gate versus an 18-wheeler. You're paying more for anything with a lift gate I guess that's how it going to Keith's house Versus a truck full of seven pallets go into seven houses all on the same block Like that cost would be mitigated, right? So I would, I would imagine it's different, but again, I don't really work in shipping anymore. Good question though. Yeah. Every now and then I think of something interesting to say. Everyone's no out. All right. Um it did it did it did it did it. So you are a master's.

I'm old, yes. Masters two or three. I think your master's to that this rate, right? Mr. Yes. Yeah, I'll be masters one like three months. So welcome. And the lift hard, the easy was we discussed was your first. Any thoughts of a second second maybe more local?

Um, not right now. No, no, not me. I think I have enough going on right now just moving So I know my training will probably a bit of a hit so, you know, nothing right now The good thing about moving is you don't got to work out that day Once once you do become the home gym owner, which sounds like it's pretty much set in stone, you can participate in, there's at least two a year now of the Joe Gray Garage Gym Competition. So there's one coming up in a couple of weeks that's obviously going to be way not in the right timing.

But some of them, I'm sure at least a couple dozen crew will be participating in that here in the next month. So it'll be cool to see. Nice. Look forward to it. Just another opportunity to challenge yourself a little bit in the basement or the garage. Do you know about that?

What you're going to have yet? Basement or garage gym? So it's actually going to be in a spare bedroom. OK. You got to get small. Yeah, no, it's a pretty decent size for a gym. But it's like small for a bedroom. You know what I mean?

Yeah. They actually use it right now as a home office, but you can get a rack in there, a bench and all that. That's the problem. I'm taking measurements. It's a decent size. Perfect. Perfect.

Main floor, second floor. I mean, it's a range branch. So the lower level, um, I'm going to have a probably family is going to move up with me, um, and then I'm going to be on the on the first floor, you know, the main floor, whatever you want to call it. I'm sure they'll love the dead list. I don't live in an unfinished basement or an unfinished basement. Sorry.

And you can still feel the whole house like it rattles the foundation some days. But it'll be over the garage. So it's that's a little better. Okay, good. Keith, what's your least fun, most fun today? I got one for you there, Big Jim. So you familiar with our relatively new segment I have here? It's called Least Fun, Most Fun. So I'm going to give you one topic. You're going to tell me your least fun thing about it and your most fun thing about it. So for Big Jim Riley this week, least fun, most fun, being a New York Jets fan.

Oh man. The most fun is probably the suffering you can share with fellow Jets fans. I love that like the most fun thing is misery loves company. Yes, the least fun is probably just knowing you're not even going to win anything next year. Not with a not with a 44 year old Aaron Rodgers. I don't think right.

But you did just pick up. Well, what do you think about picking up? Devante Adams. I'm as him being my receiver on my fantasy. I hope they have a resurgence. I don't think it's going to happen, but I need him to get me 15 points a game, but I don't see him doing more than like 50 yards and a touchdown every three games, but maybe. Well, he's on my fantasy team too. So I have the same boat with you, But I don't think it's going to help. I mean, they they have really no offensive line, no defensive line. You know, they're they're not as good as advertised. Let me put it that way.

Yeah. Well, and so you said you used to be a, you know, electrician, but I'm assuming your job has something to do with I was so for Con Edison as a senior designer, is that what it is? Yeah, it's... yeah, when I was... Put that in layman terms for some people, I guess. Sure, so what we do is work... we're in the engineering department, but since we're union, we're called designers. So the engineers kind of come up with the rules for the electrical system and then from there we design, maintain and analyze the secondary system. Awesome.

Do you like that? I'm assuming you're a bigger fan of the 9 to 5 than the working on not knowing where you're going to work one week from the next and having to work overnights and all that? Yeah. When I was in the Union after I when I was in the union after my, I graduated my apprenticeship in four years, I did like four and a half months worth of work for the union. So it was just kind of like, I looked myself in the mirror and said, listen,

you know, forget about even trying to have a family. You can't even support yourself this way. No, that's basically, you were on unemployment for 10 months out of the year, basically, or weren't even able to draw. If you weren't making enough money to even like show, No, that's just basically you were on on unemployment for 10 months out of the year basically here and weren't even able to draw if you weren't making enough money to even like show. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, because it was like it was six months of unemployment back then because we're talking about 2004 and then you had to do six months of straight time to get enough like credits in

to get good. So I never had yeah, I never had that chance. So you're a you're a union electrician, right? Just one side jobs to fucking pay your bills. Yeah. And if it's like so much you can do because I wasn't licensed because I wasn't getting big enough jobs, you know, to make a license. But at the same point, you know, there weren't that many small jobs to be had. That was worth really a lot of money.

You know, so so from there, that's when I joined the, uh, the utility company that I'm with now. Gotcha. Cool. Very cool. Got here. One of the things and it's really, I mean, this has to open up a little bit. You don't like being in front of people or crowds. So here you are on a podcast after you met us all at a competition where you performed in front of a crowd. Just to share the story of what I recall, I think I saw you and went, who the fuck is that? That's gotta be crew. And I went running across the hotel lobby,

not knowing who you were. Who's that guy? He's gotta be crew. And then I just went running across the hotel lobby, not knowing who you were. I was like, who's that guy? He's got to be crew. And then I just went running over and introduced myself. So I'm sure that was probably jarring for you. You had to have been wearing a massonomic shirt or you just looked big. And then I was like, that guy's here for us too, like for sure. So like, how do you not mitigate, but like how do you overcome that? Like hate being in front of a crowd, but here you are at the lift hard, live easy in front of the biggest crowd that you've, you know, even I never really lifted in front of that many people. Um, probably, probably go down to like Tommy and Skanta told me that like, don't, it's not really a competition. You're just really lifting around the bunch of friends.

That's kind of how I looked at it. It really didn't hit me out of that was even lifting at first I mean obviously you know you're lifting but my first squad as soon as I unracked it like everything kind of went quiet. Everything kind of went quiet and I was just focusing on the, you know, the judge, she gave me the squat command. And then all of a sudden I heard Tanner say, let's go big gym. And I was like, Oh, it's real. And then, uh, you know, with the bar in your back, you got nothing else to do, but they go down and then back up. So that's what I did.

Yeah. I was thinking about that the other day. I couldn't even tell you who's in the front row. Yeah. Right. Like there was a crowd there. Right. I had the the Minnesota Department of Lifter Safety. I remember them being there because they were just like this way it's unpaid, this way it's unpaid. Get to it. Like they were

cracking jokes with me and and I remember the judges, but I thought I couldn't tell you who was in the crowd at all. And I think that's a, that's a very good perspective. Right. The people that are there were there for you. Right. Right. Absolutely. And the funny part is I couldn't even hear the rack command.

So the squad would tap me on my waist. He'd be like, all right, man, you can, you can rock it now. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's better than the alternative, I guess, jumping and fucking bombing out. So, um, I do want to touch on one thing. Probably should have had this in general topics. I forgot to add it.

But Tanner posted today. Basically, I mean, we already knew the year is obviously going to be a lift hard, live easy three, but everyone gets anxious. Well, everyone being me gets anxious about getting registered and like go ahead and already plan out family vacations and shit for next year and verify you're in the meat. So Move Monday, November 11th. There will be the registration for strongman and then Monday, November 18th a week later There'll be registration for powerlifting. I know Jake's running the strongman and big Dave and his wife are running the powerlifting It's gonna be some other fucking random Federation this year W I'd have to look it up, but I know big, big, big Dave seems happy with it.

And it's actually because they retroactively made it. So your, your open power, the thing should reflect the federation that they're going to, because they like basically, you know, retroactively made the XPC, the other federation for the lift hardly easy too. So basically anyone that's, you know, on the fence about maybe going out to Aberdeen this year, well, next year, dude, sign up, do your best. Like there's literally going to be what? 25 spots for strong men maybe. And they haven't released it yet.

I'm assuming it's going to be another 90 lifter, you know, two platform meet. Cause why would you go backwards? You know, but, uh, you know, that shit sold out in like Days last time so I can't see there being less people like I know there's some of our friends that have like our two-time Veterans that might not go this year I know you have mentioned not going Jen Jack and ginger Murph like there's gonna be a handful of people that can't go But there's I'm just I can't imagine there's those voids don't get filled pretty easily. So yeah I can't imagine there's those voids don't get filled pretty easily. So yeah

Yeah, it's unlikely. I make it unless I get some sort of magical fucking sponsorship Yeah, the amount of money that I spent going to they aren't old and Aberdeen and now crew falls was a crowd fund So that's you know kind of out of there But yeah, unless I get some magical way to help me offset costs. It's just I can't do it I feel that I feel that I'm just lucky way to help me offset costs, I just, I can't do it again. I feel that. I feel that. I'm just lucky enough to where my wife's cool and we've put basically a ton of money in a high yield interest account

that nets us a grand or two a year. And no kids. That we can pay. Yes, being a dink, I like to think all the time now. I use, and I use it with people that are also dinks and don't know what the fuck I'm saying. And I'm like, oh, you've never been told this phrase because you are this as am I.

But basically anyone on the fence, you know, commit, sign up, you know. I just, it's kind of a double edge because like if everyone signs up and then backs out, then it's a kind of a shit show for them to fill the spots last minute. But also if you wait, like there might not be spots. I if you want to come, I'd love to go and just announce.

I think I got that announcing bug at the last meet. I was the announcer for and I have so many ideas on how to make announcing for powerlifting meets look so much fucking cooler. And I just haven't had an opportunity to implement any of them because it's just the meets around me are all full of people that have the same idea. But then they get up there and they're just kind of boring. So like, yeah, maybe, maybe hard, maybe. But I'll say about that.

Good. But no, I thought you were done. I was apologizing to Jim for first for no, I'm rambling on Keith. That's what I do. I know. Apologizing to Jim for first for no, I'm rambling on Keith. It's what I do best. I know so so sorry, sorry Jim, but there's actually will be a good segue into some some nicknames you have and they kind of contradict each other.

But we got marginalized Jim, which is what I feel we kind of just did when we talked over you and kind of stole your podcast. And then we got tank. So kind of complete different into the spectrum there. So what would you tell me tell me about those Okay, well tank we comes from when I was playing softball years ago. I didn't have a beard I just had a goatee, but it was like, you know, it was a long goatee. I'm kind of like

If you guys like metal panther, oh, okay. You're like that. You're going with tank the the old MMA fighter so I thought it was cuz your shoulder exploded but So so there was I came up the bat and I had like that really long goatee and One of the guys in the outfields like holy shit. It's tank Abbott Oh, yeah, that would have been the right time for him to like early thousands. Tank just stock. You know, it doesn't help hurt that I'm, you know, short and a little stocky. But, you know, yeah, that's that's where tank comes from.

Yeah. Okay. That's who I was thinking of. That was the wrestler. He was in WCW for he was he was a wrestler, but he's also an enemy guy too. Which was he was he a was he an MMA guy first and then got into wrestling? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It would have been the easier transition.

Like when you basically start not being great at MMA, you can always go like be a wrestling performer essentially. Yeah. I mean, not always, but I'm not saying like, I'm just saying it's more going to be, you're not going to have as many professional entertainment wrestlers go into MMA after the fact and you theoretically would have like retired MMA guys want to you know, I guess either would be very difficult. But I think. Hold on. Okay. I don't know.

So Ken Shamrock. Yeah, he went MMA to wrestling. Yeah, he was like the first ultimate fighter or not. I'm a fighter, but fuck. So on the one hand, you've got your Ken Shamrock, you got your Dan Severin, you've got your tank habit. Um, who else is there? There's one more I can't remember.

You think like you can kind of consider Kurt Angle? I mean, he was a wrestler, but he was like a real wrestler. No, I'm not. I'm not going to go MMA for him. OK, but that's a good point. But then you've got the alternative, which was Lesnar to MMA. CM Punk went to MMA. I feel like I'm missing one on each side, but I don't think that that's well, tank, but I'm just trying to remember.

I mentioned he was one. No. OK, was he OK? Yeah. Ken Shamrock, Dan Severin, Tank, have it. And I feel like there's one guy that I want to say he was a Samoan guy that was an MMA fighter, and then he went into wrestling. Oh, you've also got. What's her name? Sonya, not Sonya Deville. Yeah, Sonya Deville. Right.

So I think that you're right. I think that their direction is more more but not as not as difficult. The other one's not nothing. Well, I mean, also the one of them's Brock Lesnar. Dude, you know what? I saw the other day that actually upset me a lot. So I don't know if you ever got into the show Heels, but it was one of my favorite shows in the last three or four years.

And I didn't I was like basically getting on my app and like, when's the next season coming up? Because it was like super cliffhanger. And like the fucking shit got canceled and I'm like I was like basically getting on my app and like oh when's the next season coming up because it was like super cliffhanger II and like the fucking shit got canceled and I'm like what the fuck so I'm like I'm really I Netflix picked it up as not necessarily to redo the season but if I'm hoping that if it gets enough traction right now though there's two seasons it's still worth watching like as a rest no no I know I just watch it where Netflix cancels everything after three seasons and that's because it wasn't a Netflix.

It was a, it was a, it was a, it was a star's original, I believe. Yep. That's why I couldn't watch it. Yeah. But it's on Netflix now. So highly, highly, highly recommend that to your watch list. Just know going into it that there's a 90% chance it's never coming back. And it was a cliffhanger last episode, but it's still very much worth the journey and this is someone that like hasn't watched

wrestling in fucking 25 years but still enjoyed the TV show immensely so and then so marginalized gym as we just did again we marginalized just join me in the wrestling talk comes up on this list so many this is the gym episode you're allowed to talk, buddy. No, I understand. So marginalized gym is probably it's a work thing. Basically we can be sitting in a room with our supervisors or managers and I'll give them a suggestion on how to do something or improve something and they'll just kind of

look at me and they keep going. And then somebody else in the room will say, hey, and just say the verbatim what I said and they'll be like, that's a great idea. Why don't we do that? And it's like, that's fucked up. And then everybody will just look at me. They're like, yeah, you're marginal. Yeah. I was going to say every woman listener we have just went, mm hmm. Yeah. Which I'm okay with. I mean, you know, it's, it would be nice once for somebody to actually just kind of be like, go is that is that all supervisors? You just get like someone that's got a hard on for you. Uh No, it's most don't say anything if you think they're anyone's gonna listen to get you in trouble cuz I don't know there

But I don't think no trust me. Nobody's gonna listen. They all think I'm crazy with this mess And I'm thinking you have an issue. It's like yeah, I probably do. Yeah Yeah But only if they know about unpaid and underrated. Jesus, that blues reminds the criminality. I think that the thing about where I work is that, um, most of the people I work with have like one or two master's degrees. So like my education comes from my apprenticeship.

So like, they don't look at me like, you know, as I don't say being smart, but like up to their level, as far as, you know, book wise education, I don't have it. That doesn't mean I sometimes don't get the right, you know, guess correctly and get it correct. No, that makes sense. I can, I can relate to that a lot, honestly. Yeah. And then I'll let the, uh, I'll let Joey, uh, talk about the last nickname.

Cause he'll probably do it better justice than I will, if he knows what I'm talking about there. Oh, is that the Jimmy? Yeah. Yeah. Screamed like Ray Liotta in the shower in Goodfellas. Liotta? Yeah. What did I say? Liotta?

Did I really? I know it's Liotta. Almost. I swear. We'll have to have Nate do a little edit grayliada grayliada grayliada grayliada wrong again joey I might have no I might have because again it's one of those things I'm reading it and I never say it out loud right so my brain was just probably like swimly out of Ilyada or whatever. Yeah.

I mean, it's how it's per it's it's it's phonetically was accurate, I believe. But like I'm looking at the word now and I'm trying to like, I would probably say it like you did if I didn't know. Oh, that's what his name is. How many people do that to you? Um, enough. Uh, it was done a lot more with, uh, with South Park. I was going to say that sounded when Keith did it there. It sounded more like Timmy. More of that, but, um, yeah, enough people, especially if I do something, uh,

either really kind of like wrong or like really like crazy or funny. They'll be like, yeah. Yeah. wrong or like really like crazy or funny. They'll be like, yeah, yeah, but yeah. So what is your preferred name? Then James Jammer, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jim, Jim, Jirou. Just a lot of people we've heard you just call me by my last name. God, you just call me Riley. A lot of people. All right.

And usually we hit this door. A lot of times we'll hit this earlier, but I think it must have glazed over it. Where are they gonna find out on Instagram? So it's underscore Jim underscore Riley on the square. Gotcha. underscores that

my name seems to be very popular and everything else I put in. Yeah, I tried to find you on Facebook for some more research and there was 49 million Jim Riley's and I'm like, I tried to find you on Facebook for some more research and there was 49 million Jim Reilly's and I'm like, I ain't got time for that. I'm glad I wasted like, I'm glad I didn't waste more than the 14 seconds I did invest to try to do more research then because that would have pissed me off. Yes. I have maybe a bit of a serious talk if you guys are in up for that.

Sure. Sure. Always. So, you know, anybody that's known me for a long time, Keith knows, Nate might know, my wife particularly knows, is, you know, I've always come to terms with self reflection and just all around trying to be a safe, responsible and a person with integrity around the people around me, right? And in here, it says that you've been on that journey as well. So I assume the gardening, the reading, those are all versions of that meditation for you. What started that? And how's that how's that going for you? What does that look like to you at the end result?

Um, I think it's made me a lot more calmer and grounded. I used to kind of be like all over the place mentally and I find it helps me focus. Obviously the gardening now doesn't really happen, but when I get my house, I plan on having my own garden and growing my own food a little. Whatever the deer and squirrel don't eat. But yeah, I like reading self held books, just all sorts of stuff. I just like it. It takes my time. I think my personal opinion, I don't watch much TV, but I think there's a lot of stuff that can bring a lot of negativity into your

mind. I think you just kind of sit quiet and you just kind of, you know, you're either out in nature or, um, just trying to learn something that interests you. Um, I think that, that, you know, has done me a lot of good. It's getting, you know, it's yeah. Yeah. I've said it before that if you asked six years ago who the calm person in the house was, and if they all pointed at me, you'd be shocked because I would fly off the handle. I was grumpy all the time.

You know, like my entire presence was, I was funny, grumpy. Right. And now I'm the guy that when people are frustrated, they're like, dude, how do I, how do I get out of this? What do I do? Like, how do I deal with this? And, uh, you know, it's just a, that feels better being better than the guy that what's the word I'm looking for validates your negative feelings.

I'm the guy that talks you out of them now. Right. I feel like that, that, you know, my son's sleeping on me today because at the dentist, he was so brave and so strong, but he still kept looking for him. Right. He would always look to make sure I was still there. And then when I was in the washroom, he wanted to go lay down. Where's daddy? Where's daddy? Where's daddy? And he never sleeps with me ever. He always sleeps in my dad's room. Right. But the fact that, no, I need to go lay with daddy and

he wouldn't didn't want to, and that's because I'm the calming presence to him, which for me means so much. So what is the one book that somebody comes to you and they said, hey man, I need to turn things around. What do I do? What do I read? What's your book recommendation? Probably the Bible. Yeah, that would be probably the one to help me the most. So I'm in the west for anything by any stretch of imagination, but that would be the one I would probably recommend. All right. I would have had a be useful by Arnold Schwarzenegger, but the Bible's a good answer as well. There's also a lot of I've read a lot of leadership books and stuff to write that kind of stuff that you know, be a person that people want to follow instead of a person that they have

to follow like when you're their boss that one. So all right. Thank you for that little bit of serious talk. Every once in a while, I think once an episode we can get into some of that because it tends to go pretty well. The next one I was going to do is I was going to get into Mount Rushmore FMK because we are routing out an hour and a half soon. Let's do it.

Let me get one more. Let's see one more general. So get you a big fan as baseball. So Mets or Yankees? Mets. There you go. What's the difference? I was such a good response.

Ask George Costanza, you work for both. Or you try to work for both. One's got 27 championships and one has three. Three's better than none. Right. So just like honestly, I know shit about baseball. I've been when I'm watching it, I know the rules. So New York has two teams. Does one play in a different borough than another?

Like is that they just play in the bars and the Mets? Yeah, the Yankees play in the Bronx and the Mets playing Queens. Not far from where I live. Okay, those are all words I actually understand. Geography kind of thing. Well, most of my family is from the Bronx, but most of them are fans because they it kind of goes back to the the, I guess, probably the 50s and 60s when New York had the Dodgers and Giants. So they were like nationally fans from back then.

Are they at all for or was one of them? It was the Dodgers Giants and Yankees back then I remember that I remember the Brooklyn Dodgers But I'll honestly I think I only know of them because of the movie Frequency because I believe they were like the baseball team featured in that movie with the whole like time jump thing And it was like they were the game playing on the other radio. Sorry. Right. What do you like if you had to get like a general what is the so however many millions of people are in New York City Mets versus Yankees? What is the ratio of fans? Is it like I got it? I'm going to guess and say it's 75 25 Yankeeses, but maybe I'm way off.

That's pretty fair. I mean, the Mets are doing a little better this year, so you kind of see a couple more Met hats here and there. You always get the bandwagon fans. But yeah, for the most part, New York is 100% a Yankees fan, Yankees town. The lean years with the Mets aren't that good. It's probably even 90% Yankee fans. Do the Mets still sell out pretty regularly or always? Or what's that like?

Like how's the hard game going? Now that they've gotten better this year, they're doing better, but yeah, it's kind of like, you know, a lot of times it depends on who they're playing. You know, if there's someone who wants to go see another team, not going to see the Mets. Which would make sense because New York City is like, how many trans, like what's the percentage of transplants in New York City? Like 40% give or take? Yeah, probably so then you got 40% of the population are all from different parts of the country At least 20% of those people love baseball and have a favorite team So there are gonna be like hundreds of thousands about millions of people that root for other teams that live in this huge fucking city

That can go watch other teams play between the Yankees and the Mets So it's kind of a win- for them. They can just, you know, cherry pick which stadium they want to go to and go watch their favorite team a few times a year. So anyway, that'll I can let Joey segue there into a Mount Rushmore, and I'll hit you with an FMK. Actually, I'm gonna do Nick's Do you want to do Nick's question of the week? Or do you want to do that last? Let's get through these two and then we'll go to Nick. Because then let's Yeah, let's let's do our two's and then we to do Nick's question of the week or do you want to do that last? Uh, let's get through these two and then we'll go to Nick because then let's yeah, let's let's

let's do our twos and then we'll do Nick and then we're gonna go uh, I can arrange that. I was gonna do Mount Rushmore. Okay. And I have a couple here. So we'll see how one plays out. And if there's one, if that one doesn't, we'll go, we'll jump to the next one. Jim's a big talker. So I think one ought to be good. Hey sometimes you get somebody talking about that one thing and they'll go. No and we're I'm looking we're looking. We're gonna pull it. So we got some baseball chat. Top four metal bands but so you're not rushing more metal bands but you cannot say Metallica, Iron Maiden, Megadeth, or Slayer. Okay. Pantera.

Exodus. Oh. Overkill, and Anthrax. Those are very different. Very different, very good. Pantera I do love to an extent. I've always loved Pantera, but lately I'm just bored with it. I don't know why it comes on and I'm just like, I've memorized every drum pattern in

this song. I don't need to hear it anymore. Right. But as far as me, great metal bands or even ones that were influential later on, I would put them up there. Yeah? Yeah. Did you hear the new Black Label song? No, I did not. No, it's called Galloows. Decent, decent.

Okay. So then I'll do the other one ahead and I don't know why this is on here. Please, I hope it wasn't misfire. The top four conspiracy theories that people don't know about. Wow. Uh, Wow, this is a really good one. Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe He don't know. This is a really good one.

I don't know. Because most people I know, I don't know. I mean, I think everything's kind of out there now. I don't think there really are any many conspiracy theories. Like platypus. Right. theories like platypus right I mean like you know the world is in round it's a flat earth you know stuff like that but I don't know that's really conspiracy theory and I don't really you know I think people know about all that stuff yeah all right Keith you want to jump to yours I'm not saying it is round or flat. I'm just saying it's out there.

It's just in boys and girls. Jim thinks the world is flat. Yeah. Okay. Rounder, sir. All right. So FMK it's a game we play here. We created it. It's 100% ours. It's original. So FMK, you're familiar with the concept, Jim? Yes. All right. So I'm going to hit you with the soon as I find it, because some reason I can't find my thing. All right, there we go. So this is going to follow our Jets football topic. So I'm going to list three former Jets football players.

And you've got to give me the FMK ranking. So we're going to go with Joe Namath, Curtis Martin, Derell Rivas, FMK. Namath Martin Rivas. I almost feel like you have to marry Namath. He's the only Super Bowl we've ever had. Broadway Joe. I would say probably F Curtis Martin and kill the roe reavers

Yeah, just cuz the just cuz it's like basically the the most youngest the newest kind of thing like you get you get cuz I think Curtis Curtis Curtis Martin predate Revis probably by five to ten years I'd imagine if I get that that math's right. I think Martin was there like late 90s to like early 2000s give or take right and Revers was always seem like it was always a problem with him You know for contracts or whatever. Yeah The rich Ryan Hard knocks where he was the holdout and shit and then they pay him a billion dollars and then he's like, you know Like everybody that gets paid like puts a shitty season together or gets hurt. So right, so that's why I would say kill him

That makes sense that tracks the speaking of Joe Namath there like what was so I guess to poop harder your your perception of the situation well well I guess more the the overall fan the the overall Jets fan perception of when Namath how to God it was at 10 or 20 years ago now or he like was drunk as shit on Monday Night Football, or Sunday Night Football, and he kept telling the Sideline Reporter how pretty she was, and he wanted to kiss her, and I'm just like,

if that happened yesterday, that he'd been canceled as fuck, I think it was 20 years ago, and he still probably should have been canceled, but did he get fired from his broadcasting job or anything from that, or was there any backlash, if you recall? I don't think there was, I don't think he was announcing at the time. So I think he just caught a lot of grief just being kind of like a dirty old man that was drunk. Yeah, sure it was.

It's actually funny because I was actually at that game so I didn't see it. Oh, nice. Oh, geez. Sure. I mean, it's infamously was on ESPN for like a week later and then it's on now. It's like, it's crazy to think like, I don't know, I haven't watched ESPN in fucking 15 years. Like ever since like you quit having regular cable and everything became apps and shit,

like I haven't had ESPN. I just, you know, I'll go to the ESPN.com, but then it's like, if the fucking ad is more than a couple seconds, like I'm just not, like I close the app so many times and just don't follow up on stories. Like I'm not giving you my time. You're not robbing me of my time for me to get a little bit more of the story. Like I already got the gist and the

punchline like fuck you. It's like shovel your ads up your ass. So sorry, that's my little what grinds my fucking barbell nerling this week is just fucking goddamn ads. They suck. Well, I don't watch I was watching WWE highlights, right, because I can't sit through three hours of raw. So I actually just watch the highlights and they're every eight to 12 seconds. Wow. You get hit with a with a not a 30 second, but like a quick ad. And it's like, come on, I'm not paying for YouTube premium.

I pay so much for other streaming. There's gotta be something that I can mix in. It's ridiculous. It was, I wanna say, my buddy Big Lucas in Rochester, I almost, don't quote me if I'm wrong, I'm sorry, but I'm like 99% sure it was him that was in the Discord, was like, cause he had to watch this week's episode on YouTube because his Apple his Apple

podcast weren't working same and like it looked like it was a joke the way he posed it just because we've been busting Tanner's balls about like you know getting the ad revenue from the YouTube or whatever he was like there was a fucking ad every fucking like ten minutes like there really wasn't that many but it's it was just funny because he was like as a new person watching it after like you know if you only watch the YouTube videos, like, you know, prior to a few months ago, you don't know what we're talking about, but like, you know, if you can kind of compare point a to point B, it's like,

it's definitely a lot harder to get through the YouTube, but you know, obviously they got to make their money. You know, we, we get it. We understand. It's just funny because I, he had never watched the YouTube video and was like, what the fuck? I almost never watched the YouTube video and was like, what the fuck? Yeah, I I almost never watched the YouTube video, but it definitely. What was really funny is there was one that was right where Tanner was like, well, let's kick everybody out and I'm going to give them something to listen to. And then it went into a YouTube ad. And then I was like, I'm going to stick to this ad to get to the show.

Yeah, I couldn't do that. They definitely got skipped on that for me. But that was pretty funny. Yeah, couldn't do that. They get they definitely got skipped on that for me. That was pretty funny. Yeah. All right. Did we have a we have a big Nick question? Yeah. Yeah. If you guys remember, big Nick hit us with a couple of these like existential larger questions. That's Nick. Is that GGA or CCA? CCA got it. So I said every once in a while, I have a list of them. He's going to give me more. But you know, some of these, some of these are home runs, like they're already

based on stuff that's in there. So I'm going to go with one that isn't. And this is actually for both of you. And maybe I'll answer it too. I don't know. What is a bucket list item that you want to accomplish in the next 10 years? Go to the Grand Canyon. For me, we'd probably go to Ireland. Yeah. That's it's funny to go. And I've never been. I've only been to Italy once, and that was it.

I was the kind of younger, but that's Canada. Yeah. Niagara Falls. Oh, I barely count. Yeah. Right. But that's where we want to go. That's fun. I wonder how many people would answer that with travel because I was going to say Northern Canada. Like I want to go see like the tundra and the part that everybody says is scary. Like Nunavut and the Calowet and all that kind of stuff. I'd like to go up there. So that's fun travel all three of us. All right that's big Nick question for the week. Good work guys. Thanks Nick. Thanks Nick. All right moving moving on paid and underrated. Let's do it. Yeah buddy. So big jammer if are

you familiar with this relatively new game that we came up with all by ourselves very original to us called unpaid or underrated similar to overrated or underrated, but just better, exponentially better if you ask us. So anything you think that is not the best, we'll go ahead and call that unpaid, and if you think it's pretty cool, we'll go ahead and give it underrated. So Big Jim, I'm gonna hit you with a few of these,

and then Joey, hit you with a couple. So I'm gonna kick it off with unpaid or underrated diet Pepsi. Unpaid. I'm not, I'm not a Pepsi guy at all. So if it was diet Coke, you would be different, but if it was, I'm also really not a big soda drinker, but yeah, I'm not a Pepsi fan at all. Yeah. We, um, some of your show notes for, for of better words, were a little lacking. So I went back through every correspondence I had with you on both of our IGs and tried

to cherry pick just random tidbits because I was like, oh, this might segue into something funny. So some of these are just random things we had talked about over the last year or so. Sure. Unpaid or underrated deep tissue massages? So I've only had one but I would definitely say they were underrated. There was one point where I really kind of hurt my neck and I went in for one and coming out of the table I felt sore but I was able to go. I was able to get back to the gym and it was just something I definitely want to do again, but definitely underrated. Nice, now was that just after an injury,

or did you get one going into lift hard or anything like that? I think it was just a combination of sleeping wrong and then not taking care of it and going to the gym, not using the best form, benching, so my shoulders would kind of come up, so it would almost be like a shrugging position as I would bench and that just kind of inflamed my drop and then yeah You know now, you know what to put you on your Christmas whist list is if cards for deep tissue massages because if you find

A good one. They're probably not cheap. No, you know, I've been seeing the same massage therapist for a decade and her prices have probably Gone up fuck 45% in that time at least 40% but it's fucking worth it. Like I literally pay what I would consider like a used car payment every time I see her but you know it's worth it you know I was just gonna really afford to do it quarterly. I've only ever had one and I don't think I'll ever have another one so it's interesting. I probably had a bad one. So it's interesting. I Was like, oh I'm having some tightness in my right bicep

I'm feeling it here But in my chest to people that can't see this So but I know that it's my bicep because I know those muscles are connected and he did some poking and prodding and I actually Couldn't move my arm for three days. I was like you somehow made it worse like so if I've seen like, I've gone to, I've had at least 20 different people give me massages and I've had like three that were passable. And then like one that was just exceptional and the rest was just dog shit. And I felt like I wasted my money. And it was just so it is very hit or miss, but it almost but

theoretically cost you it could potentially cost you $1,000 to find a good massage there. you get 10 massages. Well, no, fuck thousands. You'd only get maybe seven or eight massages with that, honestly. So it could take you that long to find a good person. And then there's such a high turnover rate with massage therapists, too, that they

might be amazing at it and then not do it anymore. My wife and I would both be fucking devastated if our massage therapist actually gets out of it as a career. So thankfully she just bought her house and moved her office into the basement of her house and literally spent like 40 grand remodeling it and then like took out a business loan to do it. So I think she's committed to it for at least a decade until she pays that loan off. So we're good. So big Jim, sorry to marginalize you again. You're just so easy to marginalize, I guess. I apologize, my friend.

But I'm gonna go with unpaid or underrated. This is probably where you guys can mock me because I might butcher how to pronounce the name. Jim Crocky? Corsi? Corsi, is that it? I don't know. Crocky, Corky, I don't fucking know.

You don't mess with Jim, the song. So I've never heard the song oh no okay so. I want to see the rain scratch will scratch that one so unpaid or underrated beards. I'm a man. The people at least people i come in contact with, they think once you have a beard it means like you're dirty. But yeah, no, I definitely think they're underrated. When's the last time you were either clean shaved or not nice and bearded up?

Clean shaven probably 2011. Because I had- Right before you became a power lifter. When I first got with utility company, I do a fit test yearly, because I was a process handler. So that's why it was for Gotcha. Yeah, respirator. Yeah, a nice neat clean beard probably maybe seven years ago. Gotcha. So yeah, it's been a while.

So and actually trimmed it too short and I said to myself, I don't like the way this looks and I will never have a beard this short again. And I have. Yeah, I keep doing that to myself, but mine's just now getting long enough that I can justifiably put like product in it. And I got a, I got a citrus beard bomb that I just, I love the smell of like, I'm like doing that two or three times a day just to get the smell some times. So, um, all right. And I'm going to pass the baton to big Joey here. No, it's okay. Well, jump on in. What is, um, I would actually say don't overdo it on the beard balm, Keith. That'll, that'll

actually cause problems in the long term. Um, this is actually the shortest mine has been in, in about nine years as well. I went and got like six inches taken off. And what's really funny is I was like, Oh yeah, I got a bunch taken off and Thanksgiving dinner because Canada, we just had our Thanksgiving. Right. Everybody was like, can't tell, dude. So I pulled up the before and after and they're like, okay, that's obvious. But like, in reality, you still have the giant beard. Jim, what products are you using any for the let's say let's just say because it's a common question I get. I'm thinking of growing a beard. How do you recommend I start? What are like what are those tips that you want to give? Well, of course, first, you have to tell them is don't shave. Stop shaving. I mean, I always I mean, I was always told to give it like six weeks before you start trimming it.

This way has a chance to grow out. And and then I would if you're gonna use products Um, I think you know a good beard oil or a good beard wash is a good place to start And then you know if you want to use Bomb if it's short and you kind of kind of gets like, you know that messy fly away That's where mine lives. It's annoying. Right. Um, but I really never used that much balm. Um, I do use sometimes beer butter to kind of keep it softer, especially if I come to the shower. Yep. But that's really about it. I mean, some people, you know, they blow dry and do all the styling and stuff like that. Yeah. I don't have that much time. I don't have time

for that shit. I, my barber, like sometimes I get the thing under my chin. So like if I, if I take the kids to the hospital and they're like, you have to wear a mask, like I'll have it, like it turns into a you. So she'll, she'll blow dry that out for me. Um, I use oils because by the time I use any balm, I go through half a can in one sitting because it's just, it's not, I have more beard than the balm can handle. So I just use oils. Yeah. My beard still, like all my beard is still basically attached to my chest.

Like I can, everything, everything's within two, two inches from my face. So it like, can I just rubbed right into my cheekbones where you're like, you got fucking seven inches down there dangling. Yeah. Yeah, no, she didn't seven inches down there dangling. Yeah. Yeah. No, she didn't. Not to me, at least. So the only the only thing maybe we left out was a wash your face. Wash and moisturize your face because your beard is going to pull the moisture out of your skin. And what that does is that makes an over moist beard.

That's how you get itchy. That's how you get beard dandruff is because you're not taking care of the skin around it So if that's your problem was it just gets too itchy. That's like well, then wash your face psycho like Once or twice a day use a good moisturizer Use a long-term moisturizer that will go away after a little bit, but that would be the big one there Yeah, beard ball beard oil. I use is that a Calgary, Alberta. He's it's Viking branded Which is how I found it, but then just like he's his scents are amazing. The oil he uses is incredible I got a bunch of friends local that do it as well

So like you can always find people that'll that'll make something that that suits your fancy So moving on from beerards, good beard talk. It is a common thing. I get random Instagram messages from people I haven't talked to in like seven years. And they're like, hey, how are you? And I'm like, I'm okay. What do you want? And they're like, well, my husband's growing a beard or I'm thinking of growing a beard.

What's your advice? It's like, do I just need to like create a thing? Or just watch. Yeah, just do a Google doc that you can just copy and paste to make that easier. Or just make a reel and just go watch this and increase my views or something. Right? All right. Is it, what's your Viking theme and what's the name of it? Is my, the one I've been using, it's called Striking Viking, which I just, I find to be

very amusing, but I think it's just an Amazon brand. So I don't know how, if it's that good or not, but they got citrus, so I just I find to be very amusing. But I think it's just an Amazon brand. I don't know how if it's that good or not. But they got citrus. So I can't go wrong with it. Orange beard. So I found this guy when I was I have a thing that when I travel and I have an opportunity, I go and I try and find local beard companies.

Well, there you go. Right. So when I when I went to Alberta with my brother, I went into the I just googled like local blah, blah, blah. Found that the mall had a beard shop and they carry like their consignment. So I went in and I was like, I want this. And she was like, okay, but let me show you this. And that's when I found this company.

It's called feed your beard, um, Valhalla beard company or whatever. And, um, it was, she was like, this scent is cucumber and Yeager. She'd never met me in my life. And then I was like, what? Like that sounds incredible. It was called the berserker blend, right? And it is like, you put it on, you get hit the cucumber, then the fennel hits you, right? The black licorice and all that. And then you just smell amazing all day. And then from there, I was just like, I used that bottle. That was the first bottle I ever used to its full in like two months.

So I was like, shit, not going to get more of this. Then he had one that's called the Yggdrasil, uh, which honestly just smells like you're in a, like it just smells like forest moss and I just love smelling like trees. It's my favorite scent is if I could just smell like I fell asleep in a forest and woke up one day, like years later with like moss for a beard. And that's what that smells like. So yeah, I strictly use this stuff.

The citrusy stuff I don't like it's too, too overwhelming and you know, teach their own the perfumy stuff. I don't really care for the leather smell. I don't like the leather smell. It overwhelms Morgan overwhelms me. So yeah, that's that's beard talk. Welcome to pain underrated. All right, Jim, you gotta you gotta stop talking man.

You're just you're running away with it. Hey, that was good beard advice. No, it was no, it was good. What that was I don't I don't like tobacco smells. That's oh absolutely. Yeah, God. I want was good. What that was I don't I don't like tobacco smells. That's oh absolutely Yeah, yeah, God. I want to vomit at anything that back It's too much and an overly mint overly mint smells following me around all day Like I don't mind mental eucalyptus like if I'm stuffy or something, but I don't want to smell like that all day

Okay, unpaid or underrated clipping your nails at your desk Okay, unpaid or underrated, clipping your nails at your desk. Oh man, that's definitely unpaid. There's a, yeah, we have a few coworkers like that. That's wild. We'll just sit there and over here is clip, clip, clip. I'd fucking kill him. I'd literally die. I'd go berserker, if you will, with a beard oil.

We actually had a conference room, which has now been turned into an office for a VP. But in there every Monday morning, we would come in and we would take our break in there because they had a TV and we would just watch the news for 15 minutes and there would always be a pile of toenail clipping. What the fuck? And yeah, so we used to call the person the toenail band. But we never found out who it was. We tried. But it might probably be somebody who's

working there over the weekend. But yeah, it's some gross stuff. It really is. I just play. Listen, I understand if you don't want to. I mean, I kind of understand if you don't want to clip your nails at home because you don't want them flying around your living room or whatever. but go stand outside. Don't be doing it with these people. Do you work with, I wonder if you work with Big Quinn, because that sounds like a practical joke. He would have pulled it his office.

No, unfortunately I don't work with him. So like I loathe the sound of clipping nails. I can't fucking handle it. I think I've mentioned it out here a few times. It is the most, like I can loathe the sound of clipping nails like I can't fucking handle it. I think I've mentioned out here a few times. It is the most like I can I can deal with mine. I can I can tolerate it's kind of like people that like will they can see their own blood if they see someone else's blood they'll pass out like I'm that way with nails like my wife and I have like an ongoing battle of like when she can cut her nails and fucking better

not be when I'm around. But I can clip mine all the time. But I will clip my nails at work if I'm completely alone and I'm basically over a trash can and there's no one else around me. Or if I'm driving and I just do it at a rest stop. Because there's times if I'm like, I look down and I'm like,

oh my fucking nails are a little long. And I need to kill 10 minutes before I go back to the office. So I sit there and clip my nails real quick. Like I will do it at work sometimes. I'm sure as fuck not doing it in an office building and in a setting with other people around. That's the most, go fuck yourself. That's the I'm better than you and I it in an office building and a setting with other people around. That's the most go fuck yourself. Like that's the,

I'm better than you and I'll do whatever the fuck I want mentality of people that like that just need to be fucking, oh, I don't know. They've never, I've been punching the face, I guess, cause that's fucked up. I clean my work. I, cause like, I, and Morgan will back me up. That's different from clip, clip, clip. My nails grow like I'll clip my nails and then two days later go, what the fuck? How are these so long? And she just says, like from an outsider perspective,

my nails just grow dumb fast. Right. I feel like I'm clipping them twice a week. So there's always shit under them. There's always. I'll be at work just like I'll have my pocket knife out and just like using this fucking pocket knife to scrape out my nails. It probably looks weird if you're watching from now. It's like, can I sell you something? You know, customer that sees me at a distance with a knife in my hands just you know, Neanderthal Lee like All right, unpaid or underrated office politics. Oh, I would I would kind of say underrated because they kind of make they go by.

Mm hmm. But you know, I'm not going to really, you know, get into them. But it's always nice to hear a good, you know, good rumor or good, uh, you know, some good gossip, you know, so I would say that it's underrated. All right. Unpaid or underrated loud chewing. Oh, those are the same people that clip their nails. Probably.

It is a hundred percent. I'm paid. Uh, yeah, they is 100% on paid. Yeah, some of these people, they chew like cows. That's all you hear. All day long these people eat and you're like, you gotta be on your sixth or seventh meal and it's only like 11 a.m. And, oh, yeah.

That's actually one of my pet peeves is chewing with your, like your mouth open or like loud or both. Yep. Mouse. Yeah. Yeah. But then now that I have kids, it's one of those like, I'm going to have to get over

that because they think it's the best to just sit there and just like, like with their spit and stuff and you're like, uh, I can't kill you. These people are my age. I can't kill you. It's not even like they're, you know, if they're kids, you can misuse it. You know what I mean? Cause it's a kid. Yeah. Like when you're like, like an adult and like been an adult for many years, yeah, I should know that that's not the way to your food.

Yeah. Yeah. You pay bills and shit, dude. Like you need to close your mouth when you eat. Right. Most, most people don't really change. Like who you are you are fifteen a lot of people are still who they are when they're fucking forty like I'm granted not everyone but there are a lot of people that like. Granted like you obviously can deal with responsibility but like the things that are annoying about you at fifteen probably haven't changed things that people find annoying. I feel bad for people like that because it definitely changes. Good. Everything is fine.

All right. I think you passed unpaid and underrated my friend. You can enter this episode. So I do have one. We don't even make it an unpaid or an arrayed, but it's something that we had talked about. I'm just curious. I'll follow up. Did you ever end up doing any of those James Strickland heavy un-racks that I was doing that we talked about at one point? Like, were you just un-racking? I did, wow. Yeah.

What did you think about those? I think they're actually pretty cool. Oh, they were cool. I do think they helped. You know, sometimes I might have been able to put a little weight on, more weight on than I did, but that was the time when I was struggling with my neck and shoulder injuries. So, I didn't want to push it too hard. I said I know that was the time when I was struggling with my neck and shoulder injuries so yeah I think it's good to do even though I've seen people do it for squats like just heavy walkouts good for

you to feel the weight even if you're not moving it just to have that in your hands or on your back or whatever so i definitely think they're definitely good to do agreed well do you have anything for us big jim um i guess maybe uh one for each and one for the both of you sure got plenty of time buddy um okay so i guess the first one would be for Joey. All right. As an American, who's never really been to Canada, if I would ever come up there, what Canadian beer would you recommend that's probably only in Canada that I have to try? So obviously Alexander Keith's. Okay.

That's my favorite. It's Gant's my favorite. It's scant's favorite. It's what, what they drink in the East coast and through a lot of Canada. Does it have to be one or can I give different reasons for several? Okay. So there's that one. There's moose head, which is Canada's oldest brewery in. I can't drink it.

There's something in it. I'm, I'm allergic to, um, but I do appreciate that other people appreciate it. And then there's the Pilsner. So those are both East Coast beers. But then there's the Pilsner with the white rabbit on the can out of Alberta. It's literally just called Pilsner. It's a green can.

It's a little white rabbit somewhere on the can. And yeah, that one's only Canadian and it's, it's pretty green can. It's a little white rabbit somewhere on the can. Yes. And yeah, that one's only Canadian and it's it's pretty popular everywhere. Cool. Well, when I come up there, I will definitely check it out. Let's do it. Uh, okay. Having competed in strongman and powerlifting, what do you enjoy the most to train and why? Damn, that's that's that's rather is inducing.

So what do I enjoy the least currently? Well, I guess would be bench. So knock that out. I know, I know that's not the question I'm trying to like did. I'm trying to get there by deduction. I have anything overhead press has really been my bread and butter lately. It's been helping with a lot of my neck pain I hate a lot of aspects of strong man like doing

Harry sucks balls like even but I mean it's it's fun and it it's fun in the extent of like it's different But it's not like I really enjoyed squat benching and dead lifting for a decade I just got fucking you know, maybe I enjoyed it for nine years not necessarily the last year But currently I will take I will take any time. If something happened and all I could do was train the same lift for the rest of my life, it would be a form of overhead pressing. That is the only thing I care about currently

and for the foreseeable future. It's just more fun. Lifting something overhead is exponentially more fun like lifting something overhead is Exponentially more fun to do than bench pressing and I loved been bench press was my bread and butter for years and years and years I never got to that fucking 300 pound bench and I might not ever do it I guess I might not ever fucking focus on bench for you know Long a long portion again to like really build the the pecs back up But I mean the fact that I'm, if I could fucking overhead press 200 strict and I should be able to bench 300

fucking pause, but we'll see if we ever get to either of those. Um, you know, a lot of goals right now to, you know, so I have static monsters in nine days. This should be the last episode that comes out before I compete in my third strongman show. So it's a very, you know, it's, I technically a strongman show, but it's only going to be know, it's, it's technically a Strongman show, but it's only going to be two to three events, depending on if I end up doing the stones. Hate doing stones immensely. Fuck I, fuck I hate stones so much. I was at, you know,

the Strongman gym last week with big Chris Mark and they were like, let's, let's do the stones. So there was like, it was like a ladder of stones. And the, the, And the the head strongman coach there when he was returning the 200 pounds, because it went 175 200 220 and up on stones and I got the 175. And then the it was time for the 200 and they fucking broke the stone before I got to it. Like the guy like he like dunked it and shattered it. And then it was 220, which I've done, I've loaded a 220 before, I think I've loaded a 240 before.

But he was practicing to get a really high extension. So instead of being a 48 inches, he was a 56 inches. And I'm like, I ain't no fucking way I'm getting 220 to 56 inches. Like that ain't, like 56 inches is like my fucking chin. So it's like, no. So I think I gave it a half-hearted attempt and was like, I'm good. And I was like, kind of excited because it was like, you miss your out. So I was like, Oh, shucks. I missed

I get I get I get to go clean this fucking tacky off and then like, chill for a while. But I was the long winded way to answer just man anything overhead pressing like right now it's log just because I got the competition is log do i like axle more than log maybe like they're both fun i basically i need to be efficient at both of them for competition for competition but i think my favorite bar for the simplicity of where i can just set it up and do it in the basement i love overhead pressing with my Cadillac bar it's's such a good feeling bar. Like the middle grips on the cambered Cadillac bar to me is so underrated to do as an overhead lift. And it's, I mean, there should be enough

carry over to have it still be like a log adjacent. But yeah, I think that is my most fun lift. It's just not really a, it's not powerlifting or strong man necessarily, but it's one that I can easily train in the basement. And I know I'll be able to do all winter long and not affect like, you know, I won't be able to log press in the basement necessarily, but I can fucking, you know, do that Cadillac bar. So highly recommend anyone on the fence about strong man. Just start doing some more overhead pressing.

And if you really like that, you know, that that's literally the first step for me is, you know, get and find your love for overhead pressing, I guess, because I sure as hell have. I just need to get better at it. Right. Excellent. Thank you. Uh, and I guess for the both of you, I mean, I know you kind of, I think you guys put an Instagram story out over this week, kind of touching on this a little,

but did you guys think this podcast would ever take off the way it did and still be going? What do you mean? Can you take it? Like, you know, you haven't, like, did you think it would last this long? And like, you would have this many guests and this much fun. And it's kind of like, you know, now you guys have banners and flag and, uh, you know, just kind of like take off like that. No.

Um, okay. Yeah. Cause that was my post that I put out there. So I guess that's why Keith said, Joey, go ahead and answer this one. So, um, yes and no, I knew some insight here, I guess for everybody. This, this is going to put us over two hours, uh, that we had an unlimited pool. We had unlimited input. I knew that once we left it open for people to help us, that it would go in any which direction.

I think that if we tried to make this the Keith and Joey podcast, which as much as it kind of has become, but if we tried to make this ours, and we set the rules and we wrote everything and we and we tried to maintain control. I don't think we would have gone as long as we did, but I knew we wouldn't do that. I knew that at the beginning we had 350 potential guests. So right there there's a year. Right. And then I also had a big math. Yeah. I had all of these other ideas. The wives episode actually stems from a joke. I think one of the Davids made before this even came out. Right. So I like all of these things getting Siri on, I had that idea in the first like three weeks. Right? And then when you know, it happened. And so I think that that there is a I have to have my druthers on that. I think I have to ride the line. Yes and no. If I was going to go look now and go, we've got shirts, banners, international listeners,

right? People recognize me when I go to like Aberdeen or the Arnold or things like that, that like, I don't think I ever saw that coming. But I think I knew when we started this podcast, we'd at least have a portion of the crew supporting us all the way. Right? And then there's also the potential, I've said it before, that the best thing I can do is make this something that I can walk away from. Right? Not that I'm, that's not that that's my plan in the near future, but to have this as this is unpaid and underrated, this is the format, this is what we do. I don't need to do it anymore.

I feel comfortable in the hands of somebody who gets it. And then that means that it just has even longer potential. Like it has a longevity to it that if you build the brand and you build the framework, then I'm not, me and Keith don't need to be here. There can be episodes without us. There could be weeks without us. There could be, we're both just done. Like,

I lost my voice in a motorcycle accident or something crazy, right? Or just something, I don't need to do it anymore. But we built it in a way that it's just going to always continue. So, but again, at the same time, seeing unpaid and underrated banners in people's gyms is wild. I didn't see that coming at all. Having carp send me shirts, having Tanner help me with, you know, things on the side, like jokes and things like that. Like that's just, you know, being able to talk to Huck Finn on a regular basis. And that's all because of what we're doing here. Right. So Keith. Yeah. Did I see us lasting this long essentially?

I knew that I was never going to give up on the podcast from the second I had it as an idea fucking two years ago or whatever. I was like, if this ever gets off the ground, I'm going to ride it into the fucking dirt no matter what. The hardest part I've seen with my friends that have done other podcasts is the logistics of someone editing it and producing it and just getting people coordinated to meet up once a week for an hour to two hours. Didn't know if Joey was going to be able to commit to that every week. It was just funny because I think episode three, he went to a baseball game and I didn't have my

phone, so I didn't know he wanted to reschedule. Then after that, he's been here every episode. We have both made the sacrifices to make it and be here every week I think that's honestly not half the battle, but it is 25% Just your people being available and willing to set personal stuff aside to be on the podcast is legitimately Like it's not nothing like it is a large aspect and being able to You know rely on Nate to do all the back-end stuff for us and run the website like like I said I've said it a million times like we would not have this if there wasn't the the the three-legged monster or the three-headed monster It just wouldn't be possible or Yeah, I mean, let's not forget that you know What everything you're saying is correct, but it really what it came down hesitancy, Keith, was I don't know how to do that stuff.

I don't know how to host a podcast or build a website. I can get on here and talk all day. I can commit to once twice a weekend on here in Yappen. But then when it comes to the like, there were times where I was FaceTiming Nate in the middle of the day being like, what the fuck, dude, I'm sharing my screen. I don't know what I'm doing. Right. And Nate, and then we also like, there is the hosting costs and all of that kind of stuff that, you know, there's a reason we read massonomics ads every week because yeah, no, the Tanner and Tommy, if we had to pay for that, I bought a laptop, I bought a microphone,

I bought all this stuff, but the yearly or monthly cost of hosting, Asnomics stepped up and was like, no, no, no, you do it. Yeah, if Tanner texted me tomorrow and said, we gotta cut you guys off, I mean, at this point, I'd pay for it out of pocket. Yeah, we could split that easy. But a year ago, $300, $400 a year, you're a dick,

I'm not fucking paying that, that's easy, but a year ago, three, $400 a year, eat a dick, I'm not fucking paying that. Like that's a lot of money. Like, especially if you get extra kids, like I can get crew tell me they want to support us all the time, but then push comes to shove and we don't get any help. Like, nah, it ain't happening. So the fact that Tanner literally, you know,

here's a credit card, boom, do what you need to do kind of thing was like, okay, but now we got to do it. Like, I feel like we'd let them down now. You know, it's like, it's, it's almost like hiring a coach, you know, like you hire a coach almost for the accountability. Like Tanner is the accountability. It's not maybe not really like I love doing this. But it may be a high maybe in the maybe in the back of your

head, it's kind of there of like, like they believe in us enough to do this. Like, I'm not gonna, I don't want to let I don't want to let them down. As far as seeing our fucking logo, like I'm trying to rethink, like, I think I had the first banner made, and I don't even remember who got the second or third one or not, but it's just, it snowballed, and then I got the whole meat fucking plate snacks

that actually literally convinced him after he got like 10 order. Over the course of a few months, I think I was DMing him back and forth. I was like, how do I make this easier? So I'm really fucking tired of like, having to have 30 DMs back and forth between you and the person ordering

and this, that and the other. Like, is there a way to put this, even if it's a private link and it's not even on your website. And he's like, no, I'll just throw it on the website. And I was like, awesome. So like, that's just crazy that people fucking have our podcast.

Like how shitty would we feel too if like people are are paying $50 for these banners to get in their house and then we like just you know we stopped the podcast because we just don't want to do it anymore and then they're stuck with this fucking banner like that's just not that that's super motive I mean it's motivating it's it's all a fraction of a percent of motivation but that shit all adds up to be like you know when you don't want to do it that day that that a percent of motivation, but that shit all adds up to be like, you know, when you don't want to do it that day, that five percent of motivation from outside sources

that if it's there or not really doesn't matter. Like it kind of only matters on the days, I guess when I don't want to be here, which is very seldom, if not ever, honestly. But I think just having that in the back of your head, that extra motivation, I just feel that like, I don't know what's going to stop us. I think, well, the only thing that's going to stop us

is if Mastodonomics and crew altogether dies. Like, I honestly see this podcast in some format going until the day they stop recording. And then I would probably try to carry it on. Because if I still have a backlog of people, because I don't see Mastodonomics stopping unless somebody has a fucking catastrophic life event.

Yeah. Or they're like 60, but like, I mean, none of us are spring chickens. Like Tanner's gonna be 40 in a couple of years. Tawny, Tommy's right behind him. Like, Tawny. Tawny, yeah, they're gonna be like, so like, I mean, Jim, you've been following Mastanomics for a decade,

basically, you know, just under, so another, they just have to double that. And they're fucking like, they're 50. And scans is 75. Like, like, you know, at the at the airport, we were talking about the the long ass layover I had an MSP, right? I was wearing like short shorts and a sleeveless shirt. And so now I'm getting all these texts being like, oh, we're here. Where are you? We're here. Where are you? And 10 people showed up all wearing unpaid underrated shirts. And I was the only one not. And I was like, fuck, I got to do it, I guess. Right. But like, like, that was overwhelming.

And I couldn't even show it because I had to be like semi professional. But in my head, I was just like, oh my God, like that's my podcast. I do that. You know, when I I wouldn't say it's like when I when I knew we arrived, but a thing that just like farther emphasized how like we're doing something right is when the unpaid and underrated t-shirt did not appear in the 50% off discount sale a couple of weeks ago, because I would have like, that was like a thing we had in the group chat. I was like, man, I fucking hope this doesn't show like, I'm going to feel so

bad. Cause like Tanner updates me every now and then of like new sales and like, we've sold through about half of them or so as of a few months ago. And like he'll update me with any new purchases so I can verify that those crew kind of honestly get a little bit more of a boost up on the, hey, do you want to be in the podcast? Because like, if you fucking buy our shirt, I'm going to, you're going to, you know, supersede someone that hasn't to some extent, because that's just showing us support.

Like, you know, it's about showing our sponsor support. So, you know, I love it. I'm going to be here until something catastrophic happens to you, me, Nate, Tommy, or Tanner. Like I don't, I don't see a reason or, or our family, you know what I mean? Like I don't see what would stop us other than that. I mean, there's a lot of variables cause that's that's fucking five, five people with five families and anything could happen at any day.

But like if massonomics is this, I don't see a world where unpaid or underrated, unpaid and underrated doesn't to some extent. I wish we could put more, I wish someone would step up and help us with Instagram and actually make content for us. I've known, I've asked this dozens of times, but I know everyone's busy, but like we don't have time to do it. And I know that's a running joke is Keith doesn't have any time to do anything, but like eat a Dick. I really don't like, uh, I barely even post on my personal one. I realized that day and day,

like I have like two posts a week at this rate. And at the same time, I think that there's a limit where we have to be careful what we post. Cause the Brad the pad stuff that went up today, I was 30 seconds from texting Tanner and going, hey, can I throw all of that up on unpaid and underrated? And then when he was like, send these, keep posting, I'm gonna do something. And I was like, okay, so I know I of that up on unpaid underrated and then when he was like send these keep posting? I'm gonna do something and I was like, okay, so I know I'm not gonna do something

So that's the other one whereas I don't want to take that content From them, right? So yeah, sometimes I see things and I'm just like no that's not for us. Like that's not That is a that is a hard balance and I sometimes I'm like, uh What was I going to say? Because I took two screen grabs of the two memes, the initial two, before Tanner even said anything. And then I went to work, and I don't carry my personal phone at work.

So I didn't even see anything. So I was in before Tanner got involved. So if anyone's looking, I didn't steal his idea. I think he stole my idea, but not really. But I don't know what do you think so Jim is someone that basically watched Massenomics evolve Have you seen unpaid underrated evolve? Yeah, so we have we have a legitimate year and a half backlog. So You know you guys have definitely involved I think it is more you do with anything else you get more comfortable and you get

you know you refine your skills and you can definitely see you guys have definitely done that. And yeah, I mean, I've tried to catch up. I think there might be a couple, like I haven't caught up on before you with YouTube, but for the most part, yeah, I think you guys are doing a great job. Appreciate it, appreciate anything.

I mean, it's tough kind of following up the wives episode with me, but you know, we do what we can. Wives episode with me, but you know, we do what we can. Wives episode was good. But I mean, like I said, I'm it was kind of fitting that you're on here because you're just you're a you literally have almost every like you are such a low number. Like that's crazy. Like I it's always weird when I meet someone that's like, how do we not have a better rapport?

Like we don't have a longer report. Like I didn't think I don't think I knew you existed until a month before lift hard to live easy or something in that line Maybe maybe don't quote me on that but like within a year of lift hard to live easy I didn't you know the second one even I don't know that we talked too much. I don't remember but Jim has it been in my my Jim wasn't at the first one were you know? No, if I recall correctly you said that you didn't really even join the discord or start being active in the discord until leading up to the lift hardly easy to, right? Like I joined the crew in, I think, uh, August of 21. Yeah. Cause next year before year. So August

the 21. Um, so yeah, but like, you know, I wasn't really that active and it just seems like if you're, if you step away for a few hours in Discord and you come back, it's like we're on a whole different topic. It's just a whole new running joke and everything. Yeah. But yeah, I kind of was kind of quiet in the Discord. But then getting up to the meet,

that's when I started reaching out to people just either for some advice on how to prep or what to bring or something like that. That's how I started becoming a little more active. Then of course meeting everybody was really kind of... I'm not that I'm super active now, but I'm more active than I've been, even on Instagram. Well, that's my goal is to always get people to go follow crew on Instagram, especially like I just even posted a day like do you have a private account? I think that's I think I might be an issue. You know Okay, I thought I thought not meaning like is it a is it a public account or a private account?

No, it's private. Yeah. Yeah, so private private crew or like I know I know I almost never follow private accounts back so sometimes I'll DM them just to be like who the fuck are you but like If I don't like it's so hard to follow a private accounts back. So sometimes I'll DM him just to be like, who the fuck are you? But like, if I don't, like, it's so hard to follow a private account back. It's like, I, this is just a fucking tiny little thumbnail. I don't know what the fuck you are. So, but so that's why I tried to today, I, you know, posted who our guest was

and I tagged your Instagram. So when I went to go follow Big Jim, you know, his private account, you know, he is not a, he's, he's, he's not a villain. He's just a crew that, you know, wants to keep it a little private, but he'll let all the crew go follow him. He'll follow back. So, uh, big Jim, you want to, you want to hit us one more time with, uh, where they can find you at? Yeah, sure. My Instagram is underscore Jim underscore Riley underscore.

And that's R I L E Y Riley. Perfect. And, you know, and be there before or after you hit up big Jim, go ahead go ahead and use our all all of our affiliate link ad read and fuck And that's not what I'm not supposed to say that word. God damn it So we obviously have some affiliates there are friends or your friends help save you some money and get us in a speedboat So obsidian barbell rescue plate snacks home, Belt Fed Strength, and Apparel from the Strength Co. Use code unpaid at all of our friends' websites and save a little money. And Big Joey, where are they going to find you at, buddy?

On the Instagrams in particular. Just my name, Joey underscore, Malesco. I only have one underscore. I feel like I'm underperforming in the unders in the underscore world right now. Or are you over under? I don't know. That's, that's, uh, there's too many unders in there. It's a double under Tondra. I'm over score over score. So we have a saving an Instagram unpaid and unpaid and underrated podcast.

We've got the website unpaid intern. Go follow us on the YouTube. I am Keith, honey cut. You can follow me on Instagram at KeithHoneycutt73. More importantly, go follow my orange gem than a wine cellar. And we will see you next Tuesday.