Unpaid And Underrated - 078 : Reluctantly Underrated

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Jess. They dive right into great topics like white monster, taylor swift, training crews, cartwheels, and the "Brian's Choice Award". Links Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @jess.sez (https://www.instagram.com/jess.sez/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Jess.

All right. And welcome back to episode three Oh three of the unpaid and underrated podcast, a podcast by crew for crew. I'm one of your hosts, big Keith joined as always by my co-host here, big Joey. Hello. And we have a special guest crew this week. Big Jess says, what the fuck is up boys? Oh wow. special guest crew this week. Big Jess Sesney. What the fuck is up, boys? Oh, wow.

We can swear on this thing. Yeah, I guess. We just can't tell Jen, but yeah, I guess we're good to go. Bye-bye, monetization. If we ever made a dollar off this podcast, I'd be, you know, we'd be $1 richer, I guess. I know you guys can get ready for that speed boat any day now. One of these days. Uh, you know, it's just, we'll have to have a, I don't know, I don't know where it's going to live.

I mean, I guess it could live. Do we all live on Lake, uh, I do. Yeah. Ontario, Lake Ontario, Nate's Nate's employee on Lake Erie though. So we'll have to figure out a way to, uh, you know, see if Lake Erie and Ontario connect so we can, uh, Nate, Nate can get it on his weekend. I think the falls are going to be the problem for that buddy. Possibly. We should probably introduce the problem for that, buddy. Possibly.

We should probably introduce the other voice. We did. Did we? That's big. Just says me, she said, what the fuck is up? Oh, I can't hear you. I did say that. Then I commented on it.

Yes, you did. I'm having fun in my mask right now. Everyone's in a little way. Yeah. So let's kick off. What are we wearing first? So in case these costumes don't last all night, so big Jess, what are you wearing over there, buddy?

I am wearing my husband, Big Matt says knees Halloween costume, which is the hot dog suit. My costume is a mustard bottle. But from the neck up, it just looks like a banana. And I didn't want to give you guys any other areas. I went with a different cylindrical shape. Uh, but underneath that I do have my special limited edition, one of a kind massonomic this numero uno shirt that I got at the lift card, Livy's this summer.

I believe I died by, by Mary herself. I'm not sure exactly who tied it. This is an educated guest, someone in Aberdeen, someone, someone tied. I did. Absolutely. This is an educated guess. Someone in Aberdeen. Someone someone tight-eyed. Absolutely. I'm just rocking out the old Dark Side of the Moon shirt. I have. A Norse fitness shirt on,

but I'm also wearing a Luchador mask from the band Pusifer. This was limited edition at their the wrestling tour that they did, where they had a whole wrestling ring built on the stage and they did entire wrestling matches throughout the set. Oh, wow. It will not stay on long. This is hot. This is very hot.

I can imagine that that that's not breathing very well. What are you drinking over there tonight, Big Jess? I am. It's very risky, but I got a white monster in here white monster mafia I know it's kind of late for a white monster yeah that's special occasion oh wow I do always have one of those nearby if I needed it but I don't I can't do caffeine that way but I do have a caffeine free soda tonight I've got an A&W rut beer you know I apparently I've been saying it wrong this my whole life it is it is a rut beer so I'm gonna drink a little you know, I apparently I've been saying it wrong this my whole life. It is it is a rut beer.

So I'm going to drink a little, you know, and be a rut beer this tonight. Caffeine free. We're good to go. Up here, all group beers, caffeine free, except for barks. I think you've told me that. Yeah, that's wild. As usual, I can feel myself getting sick again. I don't know. so I have a water And then I have this beer that has taken me an hour to get through this much

That's not very far it's not very far Well, we got a handful of topics to hit this week, so there's a second mystery, unless I'm not aware, because I think Tanner posted on massonomics page, but didn't say who it was. But we got a second crew that achieved Hall of Fame jacket status. So yeah, I think I know it is. But I don't know. It was that was like a number 16 or something. So definitely someone in the teens. So we'll see who that you know, we'll see that come out in the wash who actually got it. But congratulations, mystery crew. No, it is a mystery.

I'm trying to speculate on who it could be. I know, especially knowing you, you've probably been tearing up the phones, gossiping all over town trying to figure out who it was. I'm watching, I'm trying to figure it out. And then what else we have this week? There was a little little I think last Friday There was the Jim Thompson YouTube video tour of the home gym. So that one was decent

I was kind of having deja vu because I'm like 90% sure coupe just did that same Tored that gym tour like a month ago. So I was like did I click on the wrong video? Okay No, there was this coupe's video I watched like a couple weeks, you know like a month or two ago and then you know Tanner and Tommy took their own swing At it, so it was very enjoyable either you get a chance to watch that No That's okay. I'm not a big not a big YouTube girl. I'm not a big long-form YouTube person. No, I feel yeah I feel yeah, I put my music videos on in the background and I do stuff

Yeah, yeah. Yep. Another thing that was on YouTube this week was static monsters out there in Rochester. So that was I got my you know powerlifting meat out of the way. So I hit a 200 pound log so I got my two and a half pound PR on that was pretty stoked about been chasing 200 for a very long time. I've missed that weight at least five or six times that I've loaded on the bar. So or loaded on the log that is So that was a very very awesome to get that it was as first time I've ever actually like so if you watch the video like I miss it at first and then I can take it back into my chest

And then actually lock it out like I don't think I've ever done that and if I did it was like with just like a really Lightweight that was just kind of like a fluke that I missed it But I've never missed one and then actually was able to recover that. Cause usually I'm like tweaking my back or something. So I was so ecstatic to get that. Uh, deadlift. Thank you. Thank you. Um, deadlifts didn't go, I mean, I, I did get a, you know, I did get

10 pounds more than I got in training, but deadlifts felt like shit all training at least the last month or so. So played it kind of conservative and then like was annoyed that I went as light as I did because I felt I had like 20 or 30 more pounds on me. But whatever, got 455 on that. And then the stones, I wasn't sure if I was going to do the stones at all, just, you know, because my knee was giving me a hell of an issue that whole week leading into it. But I was feeling pretty good after, you know, the first two events. And so the stones were optional for Static Monsters, but the

meat directors added it to have it be more appealing of a strongman show to people. So I did jump in on that and it was like last man standing. So basically they started at 175. And then it was just going to work all the way up to like 400 pounds until everyone was out. So I my best stone at that point had been a 240 stone. I think I loaded for a few reps, but I had never got the 265. I'd missed it a few times But I did get I did so I did the 175 to 200 the 220 to 240 and then I did get the 265 like and then when I there was a 305 that I went back out to try to get on my last attempt But from the 265 to 305 it goes from like don't quote me on the dead the inches I think it's 16 to 20 or 16 to 21 like the diameter of the stone Gets 20 ish percent bigger. So just the imagine like it's only you know

40 ish pounds heavier, but it's the diameter or you know the girth if you will So there was just it didn't even come off the ground I think I could barely like get my hands around it and I just was you know, you know, but I was still very excited barely like get my hands around it. And I just was, you know, but I was still very excited. Um, met big Dan from Syracuse, one of a newer crew. I think he's newer crew, pretty sure. Um, so he's, uh, you know, a big strong man, power lifter guy out in Sarah. I think he's more of a strong man than power lifter, but he knew a

lot of the guys out there, so he jumped in and, you know, so it was Chris Mark. Competed Dan competed. I can compete as a three crew all under the same roof Roof roof with roof with my rut beer. God damn it. I Didn't even try to say it wrong that time. It just happened and then big Lucas Last week's guest was also there helping in a spot and load and everything So we had four four of the six. I know we have at least six Western New York crew. There might be it there was a seventh actually another dude in Rochester, but he

kind of goes dark every now and then. So I don't know if he's still crew or not technically, but regardless, there's at least six of us that I know of. Then, you know, there was four of us on the same roof. I thought that was pretty cool. We got some good pictures, just all in all, you know, it was a great, great time. Uh, also kudos to, I think there was a, Jesus, I mean, tune into Tanner, talk about it on supporting

our supporting members, but there was several other crew doing Strongman shows that day. Not all static monster, but some were static. And then, you know, I tried to keep tabs on everybody and, you know, congrats crew, we did it. Great work Keith. So excited for you. You've been chasing that 200 log.

No, now it's like 205, 202, 202 and a half. But I think the log is probably going to get retired for a little bit. I'll take it. No, no. Like I did take it down in the basement because the next thing I might do, there's another Strongman show in December that one of the events is an incline, it's a seated incline log press. And so like I can still, I can train that in the basement. Yeah. You basically have to pick it up, you know, sit down with it on your lap, roll it up in your chest and then like, you know, do a rep, uh, which I did take it down an

experiment with just the empty log. And I was like, Oh, this is interesting. I ended up whacking myself right in the fucking chin really hard with it too. That hurt so goddamn bad. So we'll see, we'll see where my training goes. But you know, there's a lift hard, live easy, strong man events are starting to get leaked out by Jake and his new, you know, strong man promotion Instagram. So go give that a follow. I think it's hide strength, I believe.

Hide. Hide, yeah. I think he abbreviated it because he didn't do his full name. He just did part of his name. Yeah, hide. Yeah, I thought it was hide. I can't remember. Either way, nonetheless, so the first event there is going to be a log, or no, shit, an Axle Clean & Press for reps, max reps in 75 seconds, And then a deadlift medley with a Jefferson deadlift,

a sumo deadlift and a 13 inch axle. And then the axles for reps. So it's like one rep of one at a set weight, one rep of sumo at a set weight. And then the set weight axle at 13 inches for just, you know, as many as you can get. I'm not sure if there's a time on that or not, but I think that's the second of potentially,

you know, four or six events that, you know, so we'll keep an eye out for all those, you know, hopefully, hopefully everyone gets a spot that they want, everyone that wants a spot in strongman can get one because it's going to be a highly coveted spot. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I love to see that they are doing the Jefferson Dallas. This feels very authentic to the crew. I mean, it's about time to see it. Yeah. Yeah. Jefferson will be interesting.

The sumo I could live without just because I don't sumo deadlift because it hurts me. So I'll at least got to get up to I think I have to go like 365 or 385 or something like that. So give her a shot. Assuming I can get a you know, everyone's giving me shit saying I can't go novice and I'm like, OK, well, if I can't go novice, then I guess I have to go powerlifting. And I have to do powerlifting. I probably won't even compete because I'll just go out and

have fun. I really don't want to do another powerlifting meet for a while. So other than the one I'm already signed up for, so, but we'll play that one by ear. But in general, I have no ability to not do novice just based off of the numbers. Like I can't, I'm not going to go out there and zero everything. It's not even close. It's like 70 pounds above my PR. It's like, I'm not going to get 70% 70 pounds stronger. If it was like 20 or 30 pounds and I could like almost fight for it.

Sure. I'd give it a shot. It's, it's so astronomically out of my strength level that. And that was your plan. Big Keith, are you going to like sign up for both and then drop out of one or at least the way it's set up is the the strong man is the week before for registration. So yeah, well know that week if I need to try to sign up for powerlifting or not, you

know what I mean? Like I can say that now, but if I don't get strong man, I'm sure I'll do powerlifting and I'll just have fun and do it and I'll cancel my March meet. But in a perfect world, I'll do my March powerlifting in Rochester and then I'll go out and have fun and you know, hang out with the homies and a low-key strongman show and just have fun. But If I can't get into it then you know Everything's fine. Yeah, everything's fine Was was everything fine did you get a chance to get your everything's fine pedicure Oh buddy that it was not an everything fine

Pedicure no, buddy that it was not an everything fine pedicure. No, that was a no everything like it went okay but I didn't go and get it because everything is fine. Yeah I wear barefoot shoes 24-7 and I've been forced to wear like boots for the past two weeks off and on and it just just crumbled the calluses on my feet. And it was to the point where they're like catching on the sheets and stuff. So I was like, no, got to go and get that addressed. Yeah, shape those down. You know, it's just been you know, I've been calling it fucked over.

I'm just over this entire October month, just between opening the new warehouse, having two deaths really close to me, just being all over the place, being sick twice. Just I just want October over. So I was like, just give me a half an hour of somebody putting my feet and making me feel better. No, that's definitely going to take that. That's that's physical. And you know, that's definitely a physical necessity. And just as much as a mental excess. And a couple of times I've had pedicures, you know, you get the little bit of a calf massage out of it

essentially and not really a massage by any means. had pedicures, you know, you get the little bit of a calf massage out of it essentially, and not really a massage by any means, but it's like, you know, they try to pamper you a little bit. Yeah. Did you get any nail coloring there, Mr. Joseph? No, no, I didn't do that. No, no clear, nothing? No, because I didn't wear sandals. So, yeah, like generally, if you're doing that,

they ask you to wear sandals so that you can see why it dries. That makes sense. Yeah. If you're putting them right back into your shoes, then yeah, that's smart. There was no point. This was literally just like make walking sockless for a little bit. Yeah, that'll do it. Yeah. Wearing steel toe boots is unpleasant, very unpleasant. Well, yeah, like I said, barefoot shoes, 24 seven for two years. And then suddenly they're like, no, now you're in boots and it did. It crumbled me.

But that's all right. It's what it is. You want to rate last week's episode? Yeah. Big, big. Just what do you think of last week's episode with the the the guy that picks up rocks and whatnot? I loved it. I listened to it this morning. I will say I'm not sorry, Joey. I'm not a big rock scale myself.

They don't knock your socks off? It does not knock my socks off, but I enjoyed listening to the episode. I love the supporting supporting members at the beginning. I really loved all the coughing from the special guest. That was awesome. There was a lot of coughing, really set the mood for this evening to listen to Joey be sick again. And I, most of all, I really enjoyed the cottage cheese talk at the end. I am like recently a big fan of cottage cheese.

I have not liked it, but now I am on the cottage cheese train. So yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and give it a five out of five historic lifting stones. Nice. Yeah, in a rare occasion, I actually knew who this guy was. And in the hold on, there's anyone that you would know it's the guy that goes around and picks up rocks. Absolutely. I don't think I followed him. So after what is these lift stones repeat or something? Possibly. Travel, let's don't repeat. OK, travel, let's don't repeat. So, yeah, I I'm fairly certain I found that guy through.

What do you call it? Through some of the stone people up here, because Bex runs this really big Canadian stone lifting page. And yeah, so big fan of that guy already. Kind of knew who he was. Good episode, except for all the coughing, especially like how he talked about how he trains to lift stones, which is essentially the same thing that the other one guy said.

If you just stay strong all the time, generally, you can pretty much pull everything off. I hate cottage cheese. Nope, nope can't do it. It's a consistency thing for me. I don't know what else to really say. Sorry about Tanner's ACL. That sucks. Oh yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to give this on five out of five rocks nice Yeah, getting a little bit more clarity on Tanner situation I found it I mean it found it funny that like he broke the news to Tommy live to it was just like Say buddy, so this is this this happened to me two weeks ago And you know, I'll go ahead and let you know at the same time. I let you know a hundred crew know

So I got a kick out of that I let 100 crew know. So I got a kick out of that. They kind of butchered, they kind of pulled an us and just had a hot mic and did a botch the intro and just kind of left it in. And I thought that was great. I think they even got the episode title wrong if I was to, if you've referenced someone's meme they made. I think Big Ryan made a meme about the wrong episode title and referencing us. So got a kick out of that. Cottage cheese is hit or miss for me. I do like cottage cheese with like the pre-mix with pineapple is pretty good sometimes, but just plain cottage cheese, it's so hit or miss brand to brand that it's, you know, I don't know. I haven't had great success, but the macros are hard to argue with. It's better macros than just like a plain Greek yogurt, but a plain Greek yogurt is a lot more consistent. It's almost like a dessert treat, whereas

cottage cheese, it's kind of work to eat sometimes. So for all that, I will go ahead and give it a five out of five wrong episode titles. I thought that was pretty funny too. He's like listened to by millions of and I was like, yeah, that sounds familiar. Oh, the only other thing I want to talk about, I guess, I should have mentioned it on the one you're wearing. I should have been wearing my meat shirt, but my dumb ass, when I signed up, I think there was something where like,

it didn't take my credit card at once, and then the whole thing wiped. So then I had to go back and do everything again. And then when I went back through the second time, I must not have clicked on the shirt size. And I think it just defaulted to fucking small. So the meat director handed me a small t-shirt and I was like, motherfucker.

And he was like, he was like, I'm pretty sure we're gonna have some extras. You can just buy one, buy an additional one. I was like, okay, cool. So then I texted him after, he's like, yeah, all we have is one three X. And I was like, I'm good. I'm just gonna hang the small on the wall and call today

cause I'm not buying a three X shirt. But I'm very, very frustrated at myself for that. So I guess, uh, you know, note to self, uh, when you're signing up on iron podium, fucking make sure you get the right t-shirt size. So won't do one, won't do that one again. Yeah. You'll live and learn at some point. Like you have so many shirts.

You know what I mean? Like, but you hate to not have it. This is a big meat, big day for you, Keith. You want to have the shirt, but yeah, no, I saw a shirt. Yeah, no. And I'm fine with that. Cause like anyone that's been to my gym knows that I have like a literal wall of my meat shirts, like out of like, out of, except for like a couple that I will still wear, like the, like the most recent ones basically. And even a lot of times, like I always try to get to lift, hardly be easy easy so why one can stay on the rotation and one can just go on the wall

so I've got a basically a wall of shelving units that just have hangers hanging off of them with with fucking eight years with the meats and strong man shows t-shirts so you know I guess the small if anything will just help because it uh we're running out of space so a small t-shirt will fit better but that's about it. Any, any other general questions? Are we any other general topics we missed there guys? Not that I can think of.

All right, that works for me. Let's, uh, big Jess, you got anything you want to say about the map, the massonomics? Oh, I would, I would love to say a few words. Thanks guys. You know, on unpaid and underrated, we love to sing the few words. Thanks guys. You know, on Unpaid and Underrated, we love to sing the praises of our sister podcast, Massonomics, which is not just a podcast, but a lifestyle and a very fine one at that.

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But the folks over at Massanomics have found a way to make bonafide friendship available for purchase. And when you put pen to paper, you just can't afford not to. So go to massanomics.com slash join to sign up today. Very good. Am I muted? No. Okay. I keep muting to sniff. And I think one time I muted, I sniffled, and then I looked away and then I went to mute again and sniffle instead just like sniff right into this microphone so. Yeah yeah it's going great. It's the kids here you're muted now. Yeah damn it i was too yeah i was watching him talk the whole time.

Thanks for saying something i was trying to talk. I was trying to talk and the Crowd warm for you We appreciate that great ad read Probably about that time. We kick everybody out. We got all those listeners we can You know make sure they have something to tune into next week. So yeah, boot them all out get the guest on the horn. Yeah Big Jess, is that you? Hello, welcome to the unpaid and underrated podcast

Thank you. Thank you. I'm so excited to be here. It's been a long time coming. It has We've known about you for a while now, you know The getting you on I said earlier I would share the story it's not particularly long or that hilarious But I think we were sitting. It was either at, was it at the zoo that I approached you? No, it was at the meet. I think we sat down for like five minutes, like between the strong man, between the power lifting and then the strongman began and I sat down for like a, just a, just a hot minute and you got me.

It's cause at some point you were looking at me and I think I turned to Murph or Jen and I went, did I do something to Jess? Why is she staring at me like that? And one of them went, because she wants on the podcast. And I went, she's not scheduled yet. And that's when I came running over with my phone out and I was like, pick a date. I promise you that is not why I was looking at you. I don't remember staring at you. I've got a rough case of resting bitch face. No, it wasn't even an angry stare. I was just like, what did like, what did I do?

Did I say something stupid? Yeah. And that was, well, she wants on the podcast and I just couldn't believe you weren't scheduled and that's, yeah, that's what I was like, no, I'm going to make that happen now. Who else is out there from, from Western Northeast South Dakota that thought that I was just mean mugging them? I think I called you I think I called you Jen at some point.

I mean, I get that all the time. Yeah, it was at the meat while you were in between like three things. Maybe that's what I thought I did. Squat bench. Oh, she's mad at me for that. Nope. No, I promise I'm not. No, obviously.

Wouldn't be here if you were. So after all of that, tell us your story. What brought you to Mastronomics? Oh my God. Where to begin, I guess. So the main reason I'm here is my lovely husband, Big Matt says me. He has been a longtime fan of the podcast, crew member for a few years. And Mass Anomalous has been really integral to his lifting journey.

And I have just been by default kind of along for the ride. I was really like, I really resisted fault kind of along for the ride. Um, I was really like, I really resisted, uh, weight training, any kind of strength sports at all. Uh, for many years, it was a big source of contention between he and I. Um, but when I came out for the left hard, Livy Z won in 2023 and I got to meet this great group of people. Uh, then I really got it at that point. You know what I mean? I got to meet a good number of people

who were there the first year. And then you really feel like this is something special. This is a good group of people that have real loyalty and real friendships with each other. And that was the third meet that I had expected. Matt had been in two meets prior in 2022. The first one we met that Keith at was our first true introduction.

Yeah. And I'm 90% sure you had a book there the whole time and were reading that if I recall. Oh, maybe. I feel like I because that was my first meet. I didn't really know what to expect. I definitely probably brought a book or my Kindle or something. But I don't think that I actually read it. I think that I was like, I had every intention of reading probably,

but I was like, so like, you can't just like, sit at a meet and like, there's really not time to especially if like, if you're trying to help Matt out and stuff. Well, yeah, well, I guess I could help him out. But like, I was so excited and like, ready to watch other people and see all these awesome things. And like I was so excited and like ready to watch other people and stuff. All these awesome things. And like, dude, like every, every white woman of a certain age, I'm at that meet and I'm like, you know, I could do this too.

I'm seeing all these like amazing feats of strength and I'm like, yeah, I could do this too. And then after a few meets like that, and then seeing the look, our livis, the, I'm like, you know, like I shouldn't do it. I should make the leap and try to to dip my toe in the water so when the sign up for this past meet went live last november matt took it upon himself to sign me up for a support. registered me for the meet and I just got like the confirmation email that I had been registered and that was how he told me, Hey, I put you in the crew and I signed you up for the meet and a sink or swim, Jess, like jump in. So next week I have my one year crewversary and I'm very ready to check that off my card next week.

Uh, one step closer to the hall of fame. Um, so I have only been lifting for one year. For the first few months, I only lifted like twice a week. So I was taking it kind of very casually, just kind of getting started. I really was starting from absolute scrap, like no kind of baseline for strength at all. I have this long history of back injuries.

So I was really starting from the bottom. And now I am here. Having competed at the meet, let this pass here. I did a push poll in March just to get some kind of like groundwork and like meet experience for like, you know, the commands. And then around that time, I made the switch over to Equip. I had been doing raw for that push-pull and then a few different things Made me transition over to equip lifting. So I've been doing single ply since then

That's kind of a brief history of it. Yeah, I love it What about as far as consuming massonomics? Podcasts is that something you've actually dove into or is it kind of every now and then you'll you know, Every now and then. Honestly, I listen to Unpaved Underrated religiously every week I am tuned in here. That makes sense. I like that. Well, because you're listening especially in your situation if you're not super big into the lifting world, but you're super big into like the crew You've probably met at least half of our guest in person

or more too. So this is like people you know. So that makes me so happy to hear that you follow it that religiously. That is awesome. Yeah, this is truly the original and Massnomics is the sister podcast. That's what I try to tell people.

Yeah, I will tune into the guys every once in a while. If it's a guest that I know or I will hop on to the recordings and the discord and chit chat occasionally. But I'm not as regular of a listener. So I don't know that the backlog is ever going to be in the cards for me. As long as you get our backlog done, it'll be good. Well, if anyone, you know, isn't familiar with you, where would they go to find you on Instagram? Well, God, for listing, I am at at Jeff says, which is J.E.S.S. dot S.E.Z.

That is where you can find all my listing content. I do have a separate book account for book reviews and just catching up with whatever books I'm reading lately. I'm not as active on that anymore. I really feel like one Instagram account is like a good level. I can't really maintain two and do them both well. Not that I really do either of them well,

it's just so, God, so much. Like it's just working a job and living your life is enough. Like you're trying to have multiple online personas is, is too much. Preaching to the choir. Yeah. But that other account is at Jess Red receipt. So J E S S R E A D R E C E I P T S. I should have written that down, but I'm pretty sure that's how you spell receive. We'll make Nate go find at least the crew and the lifting one. I'm sure we'll tag that one in all the Instagram, all our posts and whatnot.

See the key to multiple Instagram accounts is you let Keith do 98% of it and then all you do is use your access to that to troll key. Yeah, you did this. I was having a conversation with Chris Mark on the Unpaid Underrated podcast. And then Joey chimed in to essentially like didn't say it was Joey. I think Chris might have picked up on it just because of what he said. Oh, it's because I respond because half the time I don't realize what page I'm on a lot of times and I'm responding to someone's story.

And he he had Chris had shared something with that Was that red pony song or something? Yeah, you said you don't know Chaperone is I do not know No clue that person is I don't I didn't Buy the by the name of by the name I think I don't what chapel is not a name What the fuck does that mean? That's a fucking location not a name and then I responded with it's a great song I'm just a grump and then Chris said well that could this could be from Keith or Joey or something yeah that's the key you just only have to do

half of it and use it to troll the other person running it you got me but you did get me on that one when When I posted the videos from, I think it was Carp. Yeah. I just randomly go in there and post things to bother you. It's really good work. It was funny because I didn't realize that was Carp's voice. Like the first couple of times I watched it, I thought he like,

I thought it was like an AI thing. And then I went back and I was like, oh yeah, that is exactly Carp's voice. But it's just like, he's trying to do it in a tone. It was, it was like an AI thing. And then I went back and I was like, Oh yeah, that is exactly Carp's voice. But it's just like, trying to do it in a tone. It was, it was great. So where does this put you for your hall of fame status? This puts me at eight. Not too bad. I think for a year. That's not, yeah. And then next week we'll have nine for the one year. And then hopefully we'll get 10 next year if we make it to the Arnold.

So fingers crossed for that. Are you counting your Brian's Choice Award? Yes, Tanner specifically instructed me to count the Brian's Choice Award. So it has been counted. Nice, do you have 10 orders yet? Or is that one to do? Oh God, no.

I mean, have I financially supported my orders? Yeah. As a total, but myself have I financially supported Matt as a total? If Matt has over 20 does that count? I think if Matt has 20 I think you can count that. I would give that my seal of approval but who am I? If Matt has over 20 he is in trouble. I hope we're not there. That's true. Well, I guess if that's the case, then maybe 20 would count. That's awesome.

And then we already covered your supporting member number. What's that? 303. I did not know what it was previously. I have my shiny new gold card. I carry it with me at all times. I don't know of anyone with a higher number than me. Oh, no, we make sense. But there's really there's there's a few, I'm sure.

No, there's there's like 400. There's literally I mean, there are at least 120 people with a higher number than you. Right. 119 now that Gabe left. The best part was like he did get a card mailed to him. Oh, of course. No, because they because it was already it was like I think it was already like in the system before he canceled. So like that's why.

Yeah, that kid's just going to open the mail. But what the fuck? So Big Jess, I know I know where you're from and where you live, but do you want to tell all our hundreds and hundreds of listeners? Hundreds, thousands of listeners. Someday when the background takes off. We are from near Niagara Falls, New York. We are smack in the middle of Big Joey and Big Keith.

It's about half an hour north of Buffalo, New York. Yeah, it's kind of a small town that we're actually in. We're both born and raised in this area, not going anywhere anytime soon, in it for life. What a better place to be than between Joey and Keith. I was going to say, I think you are about an hour away from me. Or so probably. I'm not sure. I can get to Clifton Hills in 45 minutes.

Okay, yeah. I mean, it's not too far past that I'd say and probably about the same about an hour from Keith. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, the one time Matt came out, he came out buy something buy some gym equipment in Rochester earlier in the day And then he came back out for a lift party So he drove to Rochester drove back to Buffalo drove back to Rochester drove back to Buffalo I was like that dude. That's not cool. And he did take me with him many times I have never been to Rochester. No, and I live one hour away. You've never been to Rock Lake So you know, you're never you guys were supposed to come out to the lift or of Louisiana and you had a family thing come up or you had to stay back. Sorry,

the one of the parties. Yeah, it was for your birthday party. I think I just referenced the Lifestyle of Louisiana as the party at my house. But no, yeah, like you said, my birthday. You had a last minute family thing come up. So I know you didn't come to that, but did you just say you've never been to Rochester as a whole? I don't think so. I mean, I suppose it's possible that when I was little, maybe I went to like the straw museum. But if so, I was so little that I don't remember it. Well, I mean, there's the other's not the mom, if you're listening, don't come for me.

There's not a ton here. I mean, there's not a ton that I would come here for, I guess, but didn't live here. But as you have, there's gems meat, there's gems. We have friends on that. I figured you would have at least been out to a, I think as Matt almost made it to the USPA meet at Legends there a couple months ago or last month. But yeah, that is surprising. I think we had something else going that day. No, he had to be out there one day.

You guys were mentioned in the morning, but I did run into his coach, Steve. Oh yeah, Steve, our buddy. Now as far as your lifting, does Matt do programming for you? Do you run Jog? Does Steve run your programming? What's up with that? So Matt has been my one and only coach all this time, which is really for the best. I don't think, I really believe that coaching is very important for many lifters. I am too foul mouth to have a coach. I don't think that it would be a smart choice for me to have a coach. That has really like, right, that has ruined me for coaching.

I guess I could have juggernaut. Matt used it for a time a few years ago, I think that he's got a pretty good grasp on what I need. And I think that I've come far enough that I'm able to communicate back and forth pretty well. We do have our friend Steve, who is a personal trainer and coaches a few athletes with strength sports. Matt hired him and was a client of his for a time. And since then, like then they, it was leading up to the Lyft Card Livesey OG.

And then since then we've kind of shifted into more of a training partner relationship with him. So we are giving each other positive feedback. He's part of our training crew that we train with twice a week. Gotcha. So Matt's just kind of winging it now or he's someone else. Yeah, again, I think he's got like a good, pretty good graph of what he needs to do. But that's the great

thing about being in this like training crew, like we're very like regimented schedule. Everyone is in it. And it's a lot of commitment to going twice a week at the same time. I mean, similar to this, or you know, or any other weekly time consuming commitments. But everyone is really good about it and everyone's very good about giving each other feedback. Yeah, as a fan who's not familiar with Jess talking about, she is in a big geared lifting group

and one of their friends has a enormous garage building slash gym or whatever that's got a monolift, a comp bench, a bunch of, well, regardless, it's got a monolith a comp bench, you know a bunch of mission I'm not well regardless. It's got a monolith in a comp bench That's mainly what I'm working out of and you know Four or five six seven eight people at a time all all wearing geared equipment and just you know spotting each other and You think he thinks it's a big group Sometimes it's bigger than others. Sometimes it's just maybe four people total even for

But yeah someone that likes having people in his house, I know how hard it is to come train here. I know how hard it is to even get a few people to show up religiously. I can get like 10 people to show up once a month, but I can't get one person to show up every Sunday. So like it's hard. So the fact that you guys get,

you can coordinate schedules well enough to get even four people together twice a week at the same like three hourhour window. That's hard You know, I hope so I know they've been doing this group on roughly the schedule for a few years Certainly like long long before Matt and I joined into it But I think an important thing is like where each of the lifters' mindsets are at. Like, are you thinking like what is best for you personally and individually as a lifter or are you thinking about like, you know, the rising tide that raises all ships?

Like everyone has to be on the same page. Like everyone is there, we are squatting, we agree as a group on like what specialty bar or what movement we're doing. Same thing for bench. There are sometimes a few people will come and do an odd lift but still help with spotting and running the rack. But it's really, it's an invaluable resource. I'm very grateful to have the group that we do. No, that is very awesome. I'm envious of that sometimes I see it out there.

So you guys, it looks like you all take advantage of it and enjoy it while it's there. Um, let's see. We've got a lot of crew questions. Some of them are kind of redundant, but let's hit all you I think ought to do at least fun, most fun, and then we can segue into some crew questions if that works. Oh, boy.

So I was going to ask something about just geared lifting, but we kind of talked about that a little bit, and I'm sure we'll bring it up again. So I'm going to put you on the spot. Oh, I can talk about anything, Keith. Don't hold back. So are you familiar with this relatively new game least fun most fun we have. Oh yes.

We're going to give you a single topic and you just tell me kind of the least fun thing about it and the most fun thing about it. So I got this little tidbit about you. I want to know the least fun most fun thing about it. So teaching little kids how to swim. That is I just started that very, very recently a friend of mine runs a swim school for kids. Uh, I'd say they go as young as babies.

And I've seen maybe kids maybe up to like eight to 10 ish. Um, my role is to kind of stand on the side and keep the little ones who maybe want to escape the swim class, keep them from running away. So I am not physically in the water at this point. I'm kind of like running guard on the side to keep everyone where they're supposed to be and keep their hands and faces out of the water if they're not supposed to be. The most fun about it is just like seeing the improvement in the kids. It's really sweet. Even like like physically develop their skills as a

swimmer is really rewarding. I have a few kids that are very reluctant at the start of a swim session. And I feel that I have a good grasp on how to like calm some kids down that maybe needs some calming and provide some really positive feedback and encouragement. And I can see kids come into the class crying and leave with a big smile on their face.

That is definitely the most fun of it. The least fun, I can't really think of anything that's not fun about it. Other than maybe just the noise. There are up to 25 or 30 kids in the pool at any time and all you need is one screamer, man. And any pool is like a tile. There's no acoustics in there.

So it's just gonna be echoing everywhere. Just bouncing off may need that's a good least fun that's probably the most accurate at least fun you could have especially if you're not like the one hands-on dealing with them so that's oh god and you have you have one you have one crier and then someone else doesn't like the noise so then they're crying so it can really kind of spiral out of control pretty quick doesn't like the noise of them they're crying so it can really kind of spiral out of control pretty quick. Well oh I think we missed one there um the one piece uh one piece of Maxonomics merch that uh you haven't been able to get your hands on especially yeah we gotta we gotta back it up uh I really want for almost nothing I'm very lucky that I kind of like swooped in in the discord at the right time well Matt has had a number of orders.

Very few of them have been for me. He has bought me the strong and silly shirt, which is wonderful. And the nice rack shirt, which is another one of my favorites. Those are both great blanks. They're very comfortable. I love olive green.

Green is my favorite color. So I really liked the nice rack shirt. But I swooped into the discord at a time when big Abby of build best formula said that she was bringing a lot of Nate Thomas's hand me down to her little b2. And I'm like, ooh, I would love his size mediums. Like, I think he went from medium to large.

So I got the treasure trove. And I have so many goodies in that bag. Before that, I really wanted the Masanomics Raw Power with the Buffalo because we are outside of Buffalo, New York, which is a little ironic because we don't actually lift raw. But I still wanted the Raw Power shirt. I guess if there's anything,

if I had a genie lamp, I could have anything that I wanted. I have seen big scans wearing a raw power crew neck and I think that it looks real sharp. So that would be the one that I want. But I am, again, I'm very, very happy with what I have and I am not complaining. Nice.

All right, you wanna hit her with some of those crew questions, Joey? Any of them jumping out at you? I am so good. Yeah, some of them were a bit, yeah, like you said, redundant. You know to hit her with some of those crew questions, Joey? Any of them jumping out at you? Yeah, some of them are a bit. Yeah. Like you said, redundant, you know, um, but then I have one for myself as well. Yeah. Yeah. So I just added up because everyone's giving me shit for not asking my question. And I'm like, well, this is proof of I copy and paste everything and like we can use two of them.

So sorry, keep them, keep them coming though, guys. So, um, I'll hit you with two and then we'll save mine in case Keith has one he wants to do, um, would you ever go back to raw? Maybe, um, I don't think I'd be very happy about it. The, I'm really loving, uh, wearing the equipment at this point. I'm getting a really good groove with the bench shirts and getting a good combination for squat. I have been doing single ply, if anything, looking to go into more equipment.

So going into multi-ply instead of single ply, the only time that I might consider doing bra again is. Depending on how things go between now and the next lift hardly easy. I really loved competing at the last one, I think I learned a lot about myself on meat day and what I need to do to support myself. I also think I learned like, what is something that like, what would make sense for me as a lifter to really invest a lot of time and energy and

One thing that I think Matt and I both learned The hard way is that it is very very difficult to walk out squats when you are in equipment He and I both had a really hard time with that this year. We both went one for three on squats It was very close for Matt only making it on his third Receive it to that one. Right. It was not pretty. It was not pretty to see. We had a blast. We will definitely be back. Absolutely. We are both contemplating doing push-pull. But if we were not doing push-pull in equipment, we would... I mean, I don't think Matt would at this point. He is in love with

equipment just like I am, but I would consider going back to like a classic raw, burning my knee wraps out only for the sake of doing a full meet. But here's the other thing, and this is a tangent. I'm gonna have tangent all fucking night, guys. That's all right. I knew, I'm like, oh, this is gonna be so fun.

Literally, I'm so excited to see all of hardly busy. I'm so excited to see all our friends. I'm so excited to do this full meet. This is going to be awesome. I had a blast. I wish that I had more fun during the actual meet. I get I'm like a very nervous and anxious person. And I might seem kind of cool on the outside, but I am not cool at all. And I was really in my own head and like before I knew I blanked and squats are over, I didn't get to see any of my friends. I didn't feel that I did super well with squatting. Um, and I was a little disappointed. I'm like, I really want to be enjoying this to, uh, you know, max capacity.

I want to be getting all the great experience out of this that I really don't feel like we did. So next year, I'm going to try to calm the fuck down and maybe just skip squats altogether. So maybe, maybe coming back to raw, but that would probably be the only time is if I have to be in a meet, I'm very committed to be in the meet, but there's no monolith and I'd have to walk out Spoiler walking out raw sucks, too Any more pleasant I Know yes, I I don't enjoy doing it here anymore

Just for training purposes, you know, we're warming up raw, I do a raw training day a few times a week to the thing with like, when you're in equipment, it's just a totally different posture for your body being during the actual squat. And so like when you're on the rack, and usually your feet are kind of, you know, shoulder width or close to it. And then you step out really far wide, so you're stepping backward and widening your feet a lot so it's hard to find the right width and it's hard to

keep your balance and blah blah blah so no I know it's not fun to walk out any kind of swap but it's definitely easier if you were just taking like two parallel lines back yeah maybe you know you've got any amount of weight on your shoulders and you're trying to focus and you step back and your fucking plate hits the J cup or something. And like, that's it. Your lift is done. Like it's just, it's the worst.

This is something like that. Maybe only a few other people, probably some other Wolf Pack crew members would understand, but trying to fly for a meat and bring your equipment with you. I mean, any kind of meat gear, you want to have it in your carry on your personal. I mean, you don't want to risk it in a checked bag. Yeah, so much more stuff. Because you have a deadlift suit, a bench shirt. I mean, basically, all we have is a singlet and a belt and knee sleeves, but you have, yeah, you have knee wraps. You have, yeah, you're almost have double like, I could barely fit all

that shit in my carry on let alone Oh God, yeah, that would be brutal. And then times two, if you're competing with your partner. So like, that's so much shit. I really like Tetris it all in. So like we made it work and I could make it work again. But I think next time maybe we'll just we'll just If you go push pull to that just like that, you know that's like an extra two hours you can just hang out with the homies and like Like help help everyone else help your help your friends squat and watch like you can literally watch like all three flights of squats

And just hang out right at least for bench Yeah, I like watching, you know I've been through a lot of Matt's meets now where I'm just spectating and I enjoy watching and I really hope that I can watch my friends and support and cheer people on. The other difficult part is just like the nature

of the weight that I'm lifting and the weight that Matt is lifting. He, like we are each other's primary support. I mean, he might have a few others like helping him warm up just because he's doing a lot more than I could handle myself. But I am always lifting on the platform and he's starting to get ready to warm up. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to compete with the same weight.

I'm trying to do my warm up for Ben while he's right. Yeah, he's out there squatting and I want to cheer for him, but I have to warm up bench and then I need to find someone. There was this wonderful guy who was there last year, Cody. He accompanied Dylan Coates for the meet. And so I had never met him before and I'm like, hi Cody, how are you? We're complete strangers, but I need you to hand out this

warmup for me in the bench shirt. Hope you know what you're doing. And he did. He was wonderful. I hope that he will be back next year. Hopefully as a competitor, we'll try to get him into the crew as well. Um, but yeah, it can be a little bit stressful. They'll try to get ready while the other person's on the platform.

Yeah. No, I can imagine. Um, go ahead. It is just something we kind of have to like deal with though. We are competing in another push poll. Saturday of this week. Go ahead. It is just something we kind of have to like deal with though. We are competing in another push poll Saturday of this week. So just a few days from now. So more experience, more experience of jumping back and forth with each other.

Is that something you guys are going into fully peaked or just kind of jumped into last month? No, just keeping it kind of casual. I for my own like sanity, I have to try to like be as fucking chill as possible because if I get like really worked up, it's not going to be good. It's not going to be... Suddenly you'll be like Keith that most powerlifting meets. I was waiting for you to comment. Oh my god. Side note, tangent again. I saw the Strength Co video of all the footage that Grant and what was his guest's name?

The guy with the camera, Connor. I knew it was a seat. Oh yeah, big Connor run. He's like, he's part of Strength Co, I believe. He's like, he runs the Cali warehouse, I believe. Right. He came up with the camera as I was finishing warming up for bench and he's like, you know, and I just like got off the bench and I just see in there, he's like, oh, like,

I like had like a little jump scare. He's like, whoa, what advice do you have for someone going to the first meet. This is my first meet. Don't ask me for any advice. I just went one for three on squat. I am not the person to ask. What a guy. Toby wants to know why your squat face looks like you've just seen a ghost.

Oh my God. I am like haunted, haunted by every bad decision I've ever made. Haunted by all my ancestors. I, you know, Toby's not wrong. It's not a good squat face. It is just, I think, my normal face. Maybe with like the eyes a little bit wider. But that is just, I don't think my face really changes a lot.

Well, you pack your neck, which I can't do. So like I tried to pack my neck once and I've had severe neck pain ever since. So never do that again. But I know you and Matt both are really good at like, you know, getting the, you know. It is part of it. It is part of when you're squatting.

Right. So like if you are raw squatting, you have like, your body is more angled, you know, especially like the lower the bar is the further you're pitched forward. But like, um, a lot of times geared squatting is exactly the opposite. You're trying to stay as upright as possible. Um, that's just kind of the nature of it. Um, so you're like, we have to pack our neck, otherwise you'll pitch

forward and it's not a good situation. Um, so I think just the act of like moving my head back just makes me look like I'm like recoiling for something. Yeah, I wish that I could change it. Although I will say we've got a new guy at the barn with us using the monolith getting into a commitment for the first time and man, he's got a horrible, a horrible squat phase. So I do know I no longer have the worst one is worse than mine. So sorry, Tommy, if you're out there, I'm calling you out by name. You've got a worst squat phase. Do you have any, you want to say, I the, what, what, what Toby, the next one here it's um what is Matt what what is Matt yell when you're deadlifting that that's not hips?

Which is a mocking cue. Fuck you Toby, fuck you whoever asked that question. He loves to yell hips at me. H I P S hips. Against my wishes he is always hooting andllerin' the word hips at me. I don't really feel like I need that cue. I don't think I have a problem with my hips. I think that everything I do is pretty much perfect. So it is just unfortunate that he feels the need to call that, but recently he changed hips to pit, T-I-T-S, which is also unfortunate because this is a family-friendly

Instagram account. I certainly am never swearing or flipping off the camera. I always have really good behavior, so it's very unfortunate. I did have reservations about sharing that double-fisted finger picture, but I was like, I mean, she's the one that posted it or Matt posted it. So whatever. Yeah, Matt didn't post it, but I did do it. So I have to. Yeah, that's fine. I've known to blame but myself for that one. And I think the question there was how do you not die laughing? How do you maintain your composure when you the first time he has tits? Oh, first time he has tits.

Oh. I just never really take him too serious. That's fair. Yeah, I think I it was everything I because I again like I mentioned I had this kind of history of like back issues and if I lose my bracing while I am especially deadlifting I could really fuck my shit up. So it is everything to just kind of like keep it cool.

Get the get the bar back on the ground and then go off. I keep you handle one more. Oh, out of that grouping. Yeah, yeah. Oh, Big Jen wants to know your favorite book of all time and how many times you've read it. Oh, my God. Because I don't know how could you do this to me? read, I read a lot of books. You do. You get

me beat. I do read a lot of books. This year I am at 119 so far. My goal was 120 so I'm practically there. But as for like a favorite book, you know, I knew that this would be coming from someone so I made like a little list of like my favorite books. You know, I knew that this would be coming from someone. So, I made like a little list of like my favorite books. Um but the book that I keep coming back to and I read it over and over and I try to recommend it on everyone. I guess I'm gonna go with that one. It's called The Last House on Needless Street by Catriona Ward. Um it's kinda meant to be a bit of like a creepy horror. Uh It's unsettling. It is not gory. It is

not going to keep you up at night. It's kind of a good like beginner level, but I read it and loved it. I have tried to force it on every book possible since then, because I have so much to talk about. I mean, I should have brought it down to have as a prop just for show. The book has like about 300 pages, maybe 322 pages, and every time there's something in there that I like want to refer back to or want to notate like how many times this is happening, I put like a little like sticky note kind of a little like sign here marker, a little tab on the side of the book. And in this book that has 320 pages, I believe I have about 450 of these stickers. Like I have something to fucking yap about

for every page of this book. I can keep going back to it. I love seeing people read it for the first time and go through the process. So that I'm gonna say is probably my favorite book. Is it like really, like I think it has won some awards, but is it like a literary masterpiece? I mean, I don't think that many people would say this is their all time favorite

book. I definitely can give a lot of recommendations for a lot of different books, but that one is one that I keep coming back to. So that's what I'm going to go with for Big Ben. Well, yeah, I mean, it's your favorite book, not the best book you've ever read or the book that's best for most people. Like it's it's, you know, it's your favorite book, not the best book you've ever read or the book that's best for most people. It's like the orange glaze. Like what's your favorite book? It doesn't matter what fucking anybody else thinks. Right. There is actually another one that just caught my eye, but I think I'll do that one after I do mine.

You build the suspense. He built a suspense and mine is Are you finally ready to tell us? What the Brian's Award Brian's Choice Award was? Oh, yes. I am ready. I'm ready to spill I cannot keep my mouth shut about it. Um, I was so Surprised to win that award. I did not think that that would be coming. I was really I mean me and that were not so secretly did not think that that would be coming. I was really, I mean, me and that were not so secretly rooting for strongest couple award for the meat. If you guys have gotten a couple more squats, you might have won it, right?

I know, I know. And it went to the Andersons who were just a lovely couple. So I do not begrudge them their strongest couple award. It was well earned. Leah Anderson of the couple, very famously gave birth on the day of the lift, hardly busy one. And so her husband Ryan was not able to compete in the first one, long time mathematics, Jim, long time friends of the Tommy and Tanner. So it was great to see her competing and they did amazing. They won the award, congratulations to them. And I was just sitting on the side with Matt

and then they called me for Brian's Choice and I was totally bamboozled by this. And so Tommy was the one who handed out the award. This is amazing, we take the picture, everything settles down, everyone's packing up to leave. I go up to Tommy like, Tommy, I gotta know, why do I have the Brian's Choice Award? They never really talked about like what the criteria were.

And he says, Jessica, I don't know. Tanner decided that you should have the Brian's Choice Award. He literally like, he finished Strongman. He packed up. Yeah, Tanner was gone. Tanner was gone for the entire award ceremony. Yeah. He was just fucking moving stones a little time. out of here. Tanner was gone for the entire work ceremony. Yeah. He was fucking moving stones all the time.

Right, according to Tommy, Tanner gave all of these beautiful carved wooden plaque awards to Tommy and said, I don't care who gets what, or like you use your druthers, you pick who is going to who, like I trust your decision, except for Brian's choice that's going to just says. And so, but Tommy's got no other details. So I hunted Tanner down

at the zoo. Tanner, what the hell? Where did this come from? And he told me that the short list, like everyone who wanted it, it's all narrowed down and the short list of the people who are real Taylor Swift fans. So that kind of put me in the running, but it's really a, I mean, Brian, as we all know, a brief history of time. I was hoping you would do this yet. I was hoping you'd explain this. Ryan J 1008, our boy, left. I know, he was never even in the crew. He was just a follower of the Masonic page, him and 60,000 other people. According to him, he was never a follower

and he knew he didn't know who we were. Allegedly. Yeah, I know, right? I know, I begged to differ. But he was unhappy with the Taylor Swift meme that was posted, and he said this is ridiculous, unfollowed, something to that effect. He refollowed, he unfollowed, he refollowed again. At the tail is all this time, the old cat and mouse with Brian J. 1008. So they had this award made in his honor. Allegedly, they reached out to Brian to ask what his criteria were

for the award. I believe, if I'm remembering correctly, his response was not suitable for the actual award. Not that it was inappropriate or anything. I think he just said, whoever wins the award should not be a follower of Mastinomics. But that's like no one. Yeah. No one. You wouldn't be there. Right. Wouldn't be at this meet if you were not a follower of massonomics. But here's one thing about me. If you haven't got this, I cannot leave anything the fuck alone. I am noting as hell. I wanted to know. I'm, I'm looking

online. I'm trying to find all, so a few times, I think once on Thursday and once on Friday, I went up to Tanner, I'm like, Tanner, what are we doing for Brian's choice? Like, what did Brian ever write back? What was his answer? And he said, like, this is kind of the situation. Brian said, it's gotta be someone who's not a follower, right? And Tanner's like, well, I don't want everyone to unfollow as if we would, right?

As if anyone would unfollow for the sake of winning the award. Um, and I'm like, well, you know, I'll do what I can because I can't leave anything alone and I've tried to find out everything that I can find out about all the people at the meet because of my personality. So I went back to the hotel on Thursday night. I looked at the roster. I looked at Instagram. I found one person who I will not name on this podcast, who was not a follower, did

not follow Mastanomics. He was only a fan of Stensland powerlifting, but did not follow Mastanomics. And I'm like, well, this is one person. So I went back to Tanner at his house on Friday, I said, this is one person, if this is the criteria they're going with, I've done this legwork. So here you go. And he said, Okay, well, we've got this other idea, maybe, maybe someone who likes fishing or cigars, because there's other thing in Brian J 1008's bio.

I'm like, yeah, that's a good idea too. That's much better than rewarding someone for following the podcast. That was where we had left it. But I think between my undying love of Taylor Swift, and I don't care what any of you have anything to say about it, not you two. Everyone listening. Yeah, it's good to say that i've made it very clear no joey and keith i have no beef with anyone at home who doesn't like taylor swift i don't want to fucking hear it okay um but between me liking taylor swift and me

weaseling into the business for this one i think that is what sealed the deal for me yeah yeah i came home with a big award. That's awesome. That is a good thing. So did you have to leave a bench shirt out in Aberdeen so there was room for the award, you know, in the bag to come back? It was a very tight pack. Oh, my God, it was very, I bet it was the worst. The worst is trying to because you guys didn't leave.

Did you didn't leave Sunday? Did you when you drove to so like the worst is being drunk, trying to pack your bag? With like sweaty knees and shit to go to the fucking to like get up at 5 a.m. To fucking drive Right airport. Yeah, and it's like this is brutal So it was it was a tough situation like not only Just everything fitting in the suitcase, but everything like meeting the weight requirement I believe on the way back we did have to like unpack a suitcase, move some things around to get everything to fit. But Matt

has done this before I think for the first year. I don't think he did it last year but in a pinch he will wear his weightlifting belt on the plane. Like there's no rule against what you wear just about what's in the bag. So he, I mean and and that's not very comfortable. So I'll give him a lot of credit, but he will put his lever belt or whatever on the whole plane ride for the sake of making way for the suitcase. Oh yeah. I found a small hack for that. And I have my fanny pack and my carry on. But I will also wear an extra like a large fanny pack so it'll be stuff with fucking everything like wallets And like every president let you count that because usually that's that's on my body. That's that's two carry-ons I don't know. So I'm a body really first purse technically, right? I've done that you like I will have like a fanny pack. Oh, well, it's just your personal item though Yeah, you have one person, but you couldn't care

Yeah, I would have I would have my backpack, which is my carry on. Right. And I would have my fanny pack. And sometimes if you get if you're allowed a personal item, they don't count the fanny pack as a personal item because it's literally on your body. It might as well be your wallet in your pocket. Yes. Because it's not taking up any space other than my gut. We had a checked bag each and we had the personal item. I had the fanny pack in addition to the personal item.

I would have been prepared to put the fanny pack in the personal item, but yes, the fanny pack did not count somehow. It's that's the one on your body. Yeah. Yeah. That's the travel hack. So this one actually comes from, correct me if I'm saying his name, right. Matt says, me me he wanted,

and this is actually something that we never got to discuss after the fact you had predictions for the lift hard, live easy. Yes. How accurate are any of those? Okay. I'm going to skip right to the end to answer the question. And I will back the train up if necessary.

I went back and looked at my predictions of how everyone would perform at the Lift Hard to Live Easy. For the men, 18% of the people that I predicted a total, I was within 10 pounds of their actual total. And it was 58% that I was within 30 pounds, either up or down. So I feel like I did pretty good. There were a few outliers, but most people I was pretty close. For the women, obviously there are fewer women, so it's not as statistically significant. But 30% of the women, I was within 10 pounds and about the same about 53%.

I was within 30 pounds for their total. I am not one of those. I thought that I would do much better than I did. But most people did really, really well. So I was really glad to see everyone get out there. I mean, I looked at people's lifting history, their injury history, previous meets, what their what their goals were, that they had said any in discord or on Instagram to put those predictions together. And a lot of people were right at where I thought they would be. And a lot of people were

much higher. So I was really, really happy to see how everyone did at the end. Did I, did I screw your statistic by saying I'm begging my deadlift? No, no, you did fine. Everyone did fine. I remember like a few outliers, but I think you did I sandbagged it by 20 pounds I was a 10. I was like I was going in there expecting 450 at least but when I realized I was just gonna finish first Anyway, I was like fuck it for 25 like I'm not hurting myself We're not a PR and I'm gonna place first anyway, because I'm the only master or sub masters here. So. Yeah. I don't remember you specifically, Joey being an outlier. There were 43 men. So out

of the 43 men, I'm not sure exactly where you were in the over under. Yeah. I was just happy to see everyone, see everyone compete and no one really got too injured. Good. And no one, you know, everyone ever walked out of there in one piece. And that is the ultimate goal of the meat. No one getting really seriously hurt. So right. There's maybe more vomiting than I hoped. Oh my god. Hopefully that's over for next year. What was a bigger source going into for your research purposes is the open powerlifting

or the road to lift hard live easy video series. Oh, both very important, both for very different reasons, right? Like I love the video series really helped me get everyone's names and faces straight. And there were some people who despite all of my searching, I really could not find are definitively leading into the meat. So then I felt really good about who's who. Open powerlifting, though, I mean, what a resource, we don't deserve open powerlifting. I didn't exist when I got into power lift. Like it did. It's

like, really, I mean, I don't you're dating yourself, Keith. I mean, I don't know. I don't think it's more than five or six years old. I'd be I know, like my first couple meets like they're in there now because I like send all that results into like the email and shit but like there was nothing that I knew of until at least a couple years into my lifting career So I want to say like that it's so interesting as an 18 19 Maybe I mean I mean if some of them wrong someone correct me But it wasn't readily available and I didn't know about it at least and I'm pretty like in that world So yeah, it's a great it's an amazing resource. Oh, yeah So something the other day they were talking about like if we did ads we could actually if we just ran like a couple ads Or whatever it would create like $80,000 of revenue. And we could actually just like hire two guys to do this full time, essentially. Right. And I was like, that'd be cool. Like I wouldn't be upset to see a

couple ads if it meant like, they could actually not have to just do it on the weekends and like their personal time because like, that's got to be like, what an undertaking. Yeah. That would not be fun. Yeah, but I am on open powerlifting all the time, unfortunately. Sorry, everyone who feels that they have a right to privacy, but not with me because I am out there. I am watching all the time. So the whole like the predictions like that, that is me telling on myself for being a fucking creep. But I feel that I have like a good, I don't

know, I started with good intentions. Back the train up. So I signed, Matt signs me up for this meet, I have done nothing up until that point to do any kind of lifting or prepare at all. I was very nervous, very anxious, had a lot of like imposter syndrome. And I'm like, I am so afraid of public failure that all I want to do is like go into this meet, put up some like respectable, modest, but like decent numbers. Like I had very, very modest goals of what I could achieve at this meet.

And I'm like, I need to know that I'm not going to be laughed off the platform. Would anyone do that? Absolutely not. Okay. I know that I knew that then, but logically, like, it's not sinking in to the gray matter up here. So I made the spreadsheet. I didn't make it. Okay. If you go on Open PowerOath and you can download anything as an Excel spreadsheet, right? And I have a lot of free time at work sometimes, so I'm just gonna throw that out there. It's time to ruminate and think about things.

So I downloaded the last Lift Hard, Live Easy, sorted out the people who weren't on the roster, put the new people on the roster who had not been on there previously, just kind of clean it up a bit, type in the new people roughly where their lips are at. I look at Open Power Lifting, I look at Instagram. I mostly did this just for the women

to see like where I would fall if I'm in like a good range. I don't know. I don't- I have no idea. That must have been when you thought you were still a raw lifter then, because like it's all skewed. It's like completely irrelevant when you're a geared lifter

because I don't think there was any other. Well, let me be clear. My raw numbers are also dog shit like I am not very good I am still very much just a beginner I'm here to have a good time uh I am not really here to break any records or even like you know I just want to have a good time um now but then I was very nervous. I'm like, this is going to be really embarrassing for me. But I started just kind of keeping track. And then like a few months goes by and I see another one of the chips, she competes. I'm like, oh, I gotta go update the numbers.

So I know where everyone's going to be. And I just kept fucking doing that. And I don't know why I really did that. And then it kind of shifted. I'm like, okay, you know, it's maybe like March, April, May, I have that one push pull under my belt. I'm like, you know, I feel okay. I feel like I'm going to do a job, maybe not a great job, but a job at the meat. But wait, Jess, there's more. What if I go to this meat, and I do okay at the meat, but I don't fucking know

anyone there. And I just stand in the corner, all by my lonesome the whole time. Like now I go to this meet and I do okay at the meet, but I don't fucking know anyone there. And I just stand in the corner, I'll buy my lonesome the whole time. Like now I need to know how many people can I get to know for this meet. So then I make a list, then I include the men. I've got a separate sheet for the men, put all the men in alphabetical order,

sort them roughly by age range, age class, weight class, not even like the numbers just at this point. And then like I'm writing their Instagram handle or like any kind of anecdotal information I know just something that if I am like at the like waiting in line for the bathroom next to this guy, I'm like, I want to know who that person is and have something to talk about, you know. Um, you're the Batman of powerlifting competitions.

Respectfully, like I know this is, this is something that I know that it was a lot of work to know people, the whole ops conversation starts happening in the discord and people need an opponent for the meet. They need someone to. Oh, I forgot all about that. Yeah, I think this is a rival. I've got this list. I've got the list already here.

And I'm like, you know, how hard would it be to just kind of guess what a total would be and pitch people against each other? And I really had a lot of fun with that. I used those powers for good. I definitely will be doing it again in 2025 So if you don't want an app, let me know otherwise, I'm gonna take this bigger and better than before, you know That's hilarious

I found that person I found the hardest part was like using the initial roster and being like alright None of these fuckers are even coming like like a third of these people on the roster anymore So then I'm like delete because like mainly for the, you know, trying to get the, the, the video series of the, the road to lift hard. It's like, but that gave me like a really good understanding of who all was going to be there and who all dropped last minute and who all, cause they added last minute and like 10 people that just have Instagram but don't respond or a handful that leave you on red. And you're like, okay, cool. I guess I don't need to talk to you.

Right. Yeah. What a, what a, what a labor of love piece, you know, like I feel like I thank you. I'm inspired by you. Just now. The funny thing is we're both just going to feed off each other's energy and just be like stalker ish going into next year. Also it seems like, so good stuff for us really getting other people's business. Hell yeah. And I wait. So we are almost at the hour and a half. We should probably start doing some of these other questions. I'm having a blast. So I'm a no rap. Let's have it. Well, that kind of goes against what I saw one of your nicknames be. And who who who calls you stress. Me. Oh, nice. I love it.

No, Matt. Matt came up with stress guy. I believe I love Great name. I had to read it a couple times. What is this? Oh stress because because she has stress and anxiety That's a good one. Oh god. I'm always pulling my fucking hair out I mean, I think every every couple maybe not every couple most couples you have a type a you have a type B Like you've got someone who's like a chill golden retriever and you have someone who is pulling their eyebrows out one at a time with stress and that is definitely me and Matt is he's ready to call me out on that and stress because the title that I live up to I can own that. Did you want to get into some games or do you want to go into the like they're the the Matt and Jessica submitted stuff to everywhere yet. I don't know anymore.

And if into the microphone, he's giving up. No, no, no, absolutely not. There's just a lot here. So a lot of reading stuff. Yeah, a lot of stuff about books. Like, I feel like we've actually touched on most of this stuff. Yeah, we could do games. Cool. I'm going to hit it with the FMK then.

Mm hmm. Well, so it's one that most people submitted some variation or another of for the for the fmk topic this week so we're gonna go with the new york times games and you guys got that. What are those connections were doing many whatever that is i don't know what any of these are so. I don't know what any of these are, so I guess have at it and give them the old FMK. I'm so glad you asked. I had a prepared answer for this. So the mini is the mini New York Times crossword. It is roughly the same difficulty every week. Maybe 10 to 15 crossword words, clues to make one grid. Connections is a game where you have 16 different words and you need to group them into four groups of four, depending on different characteristics of the words

or phrases, their meanings, alternate definitions. It can be very tricky. And Wordle, I think most people know Wordle. It is roughly kind of like a hangman style game where you have to guess a five-letter word and you have six guesses to get it and you have clues depending on what your guesses are. I am unfortunately going to kill Wordle. I like the Wordle but like I like the other ones more. So sorry Wordle. Wordle is the OG I like the other ones more. So sorry, Wirtle. Wirtle's the OG, but I got to keep it moving.

I do fuck with the mini. I really like the mini. I like the way that it has developed in the crew York times games sub thread in the discord because it's gotten very competitive. We have a leaderboard and now we are actively racing each other to see how fast we can complete this mini crossword.

And you know, anytime that I have the chance to win against a group of friends of mine, I'm really into that. So I will fuck with the mini. But Connections has my heart. You know, a trickster every day is a new adventure with with connections. Sometimes it's easier than others. I think I've got a good strategy. I think that I'm really pretty good at connections and at the mini. Maybe not so good at the Whirlpool because I treat it like a horoscope, which I shouldn't. I should kind of stick to a better strategy. So that's my FMK. I am fucking with mini, marrying connections, connections and killing wordle. Sorry So take it well done

It means nothing to either of you sir both that I can see your eyes or in blazing over you were out of it Nice nice nice Harkin. No, I know I a lot. I know there's how many people are in that sub Discord I guess if you will I mean it is, it is a sub thread of Mastanomics or is it a completely separate? It is like a separate thread off of like the general thread in the Discord. I'd say we have maybe 20, less than 20 give or take. Some more active than others.

Even I am not super everyday posting in there cause I'm usually playing while I'm working. But then I got to sit on my phone and update the Discord, and then I get in trouble for not working. And I got. So, but yeah, I think there's a good group of us. I'm glad that some of my career times homies wrote that question in so that I can yap about that.

Nice. Um, I got a couple of these, um, Mount Rushmore's. All right. But I'm going to throw you a swerve. Oh no. Yep. You said you had prepared answers. I know.

So you're gonna make me think. Yep. I want your Mount Rushmore of Taylor Swift covers. So people that have done covers of her songs that you've enjoyed. I don't even know that I know any. Yeah. I can't off the top of my head. This is why you got to go with the pre approved questions. No, never, never off the top of my head. I can't think of any. I can think of a few songs that Taylor Swift has covered, but I can't think of any, I can think of a few songs that Taylor Swift has covered, but I can't think of any songs that people have covered. Okay. I don't know. That's the only really thing that one would make you have to look stuff up.

Yeah, we don't have time for that. Yeah. So I'll say, uh, all four are the Taylor Swift goats. So your male rush more Taylor Swift albums or eras. Uh huh. Okay. This is I'm going to keep it very brief because I know we have to keep moving. But I also have a spreadsheet for this. I do love an Excel spreadsheet. I knew that would come on and I'm like, I have this, this lore of being a Taylor Swift fan, I've got to talk about this. Um, so I made an Excel spreadsheet of every song from every album from Taylor Swift. And I ranked all the songs like one through four gave them like a rating,

and then use that criteria to like find the average mean, median and motorboat, if you will, criteria to like find the average uh mean median and motorboat if you will of the Taylor Swift albums to find like scientifically which ones are like my favorite so my Mount Rushmore is folklore which was released in 2020, Red which came out in 2012, Midnights which was 2022 and Sparks Fly which was 2010. So a bit, a bit all over the board. Truly like the ratings are pretty similar between the highest and the least rated. Like I'm pretty much a fan of all the albums,

but it was very hard to narrow it down to a top four. Cause I think we have 10 or 11 albums in total. And then we get into like, we have the Taylor's version, versions of the albums, like the original versus the new re-release of it. So there was a lot of thinking that went into that and I did not do a lot of work at my job. Those things that I was putting up. That's all right. All right, Keith, did pretty good there.

Do you want to hit us up with unpaid and underrated? Yeah. So Big Jess, this is relatively new segment. We've instilled in the podcast. We're going to give you six to eight hand-picked topics specifically for you and it's your job to use little druthers and hit us with, yes, I think that's unpaid or yes, I think that's underrated. So you're ready? Okay. We'll try to keep it straight.

I have a cheat code, bad and good. I have that written down. So I know what would be what. So number one here, unpaid or underrated, bench shirts ripping mid-set. Oh my God. Oh, that was like one of the scariest things I've ever seen live. Matt was benching with a bench shirt. long story, but it ripped while he was wearing it. It's hanging up behind me next to Taylor Swift, the queen. That is definitely unpaid. I will do anything to avoid that happening again. That was in specifically a shirt that is made out of denim. I think that is kind of a characteristic of that material that is prone to ripping. And sometimes I think that is kind of a characteristic of that material that is prone to ripping. And sometimes you'll have that on them big jobs. So definitely unpaid.

Hopefully we never have to talk about it again. And I never it never happens to anyone that I care about. So unpaid for sure. And you were aside, you and Steve are so spied, side spotters on that, I believe. Right. So how was that to be scary as shit? Well, Steve was nearby me and another friend. Oh, he was on the other side. He was there and thank God he was. I felt so much better with just having everyone around

that could help out. Matt had, I don't know, maybe four plates on the bar. He's benching and all of a sudden he gets maybe like an inch or two off the chest. The whole shirt rips and that weight just kind of drops. I mean, it's the tension in the shirt that is supporting the lift, but definitely not weight that Matt could easily like recover from ripping the shirt and be able to press wrong. He's a very strong dude,

but that kind of is very shocking to the system. So I really, we all had to be on our game and catch that. Not that I certainly am not that strong myself. I'm just there to try to keep it off of Matt's chest and our center, our handoff guy, he's probably capable of upright rowing 405 pounds. He's a big guy. We all came together and Matt did not get hurt, but it took a long time to settle down after that. I was yeah Remember seeing that video a couple weeks ago or whatever it was And I think I even asked Steve about it when I saw him in person at the meet and he was I he was like

Yeah, my my asshole puckered up pretty tight on that one All right Unpaid or underrated good reads the app website. If anyone's not familiar with that, maybe tell them what it is. Goodreads is like a really underwhelming social media that revolves around books. So it's kind of like a kugelheim. It's social media for nerds.

It really is. In a good way. It's IMBD for books. Yeah, it's similar. I mean, you can, you have a profile, you can add friends, you can like and comment on other people's updates, but the updates are only like, this is what I want to read, this is what I am reading, this is what I finished reading. So there, I do like that it's like dates. This is what I rated it.

You don't have to rate things. You don't have to rate things. You don't have to do anything. You could just have a profile and lurk. Just to rate everything. I'm pretty active in Goodreads, more so than on my book Instagram account. I use it to keep track of all my shit. As an app, as a social media, it's kind of underwhelming.

It's kind of glitchy sometimes. So I'm still going to say underrated because I wish that more people would use it. I have a dear friend in one of my book clubs who just has a note on her notes app where she keeps track of everything. Oh my god and she reads them all. Use the goddamn app it's so much easier. Just do something. And it's been around for like 20 years. The Reads is not the only one.

Yeah I know there's some others but I'm good. There are a few others. Good Reads is the one that probably lasts the longest because it actually has money behind it and stuff. So it should outlive our lifespan. I don't know if it is owned by Amazon, but somehow it is like affiliated. Like you can click, if you are looking at a book's profile, you can like click a button and it will take you into Amazon to purchase the book.

I would say the most unpaid thing about it from my end is like it always is freaking sending me emails but as soon as I finish a book and it's like trying to read the next one and I was like yeah I've already got shit ready to go like stop sending me emails. I'm sure that's a thing I could click and get rid of but I don't know. I think you said. I think you said. But I support you complaining about it. But I love Goodreads.

It is a great concept and it being able to track every single like someone with OCD and fucking liking like tracking data is very awesome to be like, oh, I've read fucking 500 books in my life and I've read 20 this year and it's just being able to like track all that is amazing. Oh, yeah. So unpaid or underrated Wegmans. Wow. I'm torn. I'm still, I'm, I'm loyal to Western New York. I'm going to say underrated. However, it is very rare that you will catch me at a Wegmans. I am at a Wegmans for one of two purposes.

Uh, one to get Greek yogurt because their house brand of Greek yogurt is the only one that I will use or two to have a Wegman sub. I love a Wegman sub. It's like a party trick of mine that I can eat a whole one. Like they are big. Not this is no subway $5 foot long. Okay. This is a big boy. This is a thick ass sub. Um, and I do like to eat it. Uh, so I'm going to say underrated for the subs. They have a lot of like specialty items, but it's pricey and I am a cheap ass bitch. I am nosy I am I run my mouth. I swear too much and I am a cheap Oh, I am NOT willing to spend Wegmans prices most of the time. Yes, you get a Costco out there

You know, I think that one is under construction I've never had a chicken bake, so I would really like it. But I have a Sam's Club membership already. I definitely can't justify both. Once and it might be one or the other. They work. I think you can use the Sam's Club at Costco. Oh, is that a thing? Is that true? I've heard because I know when I'm there, they have a thing that says we are and it'll be like Price Club, Costco, Sam's Club, even in Canada. I hope that you are right, but I don't know that you are. I'm going to labor under the impression that you are right until someone tells me otherwise, but

I'm not sure about that. We'll come back to that one. I've actually heard and I could be one of the Davids will Google it for us and let us know. Yeah, I'm not doing that live on these do guys Googling something. But I've also heard that there isn't a Costco at all in New York state. What I feel like there is one somewhere. There might even be one like in like downstate area. Somebody said that to me.

Who are you being funny? No, no. Somebody legitimately said that to me. And then I was just like, I don't know about that. I didn't look it up. Costco, New York state. I am going to Google that. There's a fucking one for a mile from my house, dude.

You know that. Yeah. So somebody fucking lied to me. Lawrence, there's one in Lawrence and Rochester. Yeah. Yes. Somebody lied to me. That's really I thought you were being funny because like, there's literally a Costco a block from like it is like point nine miles from my house. That's whole. Yeah, okay. So somebody lied to

me. And they go now you have a reason to go to Rochester. There you go. Yeah. There it is. We also have the BJs but I'm not fucking with that I can know I I got to stick to one or the other. I cannot have all the of the bulk warehouse style memberships. They're all interchangeable. Yeah. Now you can just go to Rochester, visit Keith, see if your Sam's club membership works like this.

This sounds like a like trip in a wine cellar. We're doing this one stone next lift party will be well known at once. I know I won't see Matt the rest of the year because he's going to be in the fucking woods hunting, but the Saturday after Thanksgiving we'll have another lift party, but I'm sure he'll be in the woods. But you're more than welcome to come out. He and I both hunt. I'm not, we don't have plans at this point to be the one after Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving is late this year. Thanksgiving is the 28th. So we're talking. So like November, like December 8th. No, like, like, like two days after Thanksgiving. Sorry. Like, like the Saturday, like two day. Yeah. So I'll put it in the calendar. I do love the calendar. So I'll see what's going on. I'll let you know. Is it the calendar app or do you have a separate calendar? It is the calendar app. I am a big fan of Google apps.

Sorry if Keith wanted to bring this up for unpaid underrated, but I do love the Google suite of apps. I don't know what that means. I don't know. I saw that. I didn't didn't know what it means. I don't know what's. Yeah. So like Google Drive. Oh, OK. Google Sheets, Google Docs, Google.

I got you. Yeah. She's docs, the calendar. Yeah. I have like Google Calendar. Email, it's all interchangeable. So Matt and I have a shared Google Calendar so I can put something in and it pops up on his phone and vice versa.

Having a family calendar, digital, everywhere you go. If you're on the computer at work, like me, not working. If you're on your phone, wherever you are. Are you a big tanner? You can link it with Google Maps. So if you're going somewhere, it will let you know when it's time to leave. Cause it's all integrated.

So I'm a big fan of that. Integrated like all the super stores around here. Exactly. Unpaid or underrated dimmer switches. Um, you know, I, this is my drug. There's, I don't have a huge preference. We do have them in almost every light fixture in our house, almost everything is on a dimmer switch. The bathroom is on a dimmer switch for multiple lights, like our walk-in closet is on a dimmer

switch. It's very unnecessary. But when we were building this house, we wanted to just do it once, do it right, get everything that we wanted. So we put fucking everything on a recessed ass pan with a dimmer ass switch. And I'll still say underrated, but like, this is not a make or break for me like it was for Matt. Matt is very, he's very picky.

He's very particular about everything that we put into this house. So reluctantly underrated. Reluctantly underrated. And I did Google it. No, you can't use Sam's Club at Costco. Or the other way around. But which one has chicken bakes? Like only Costco?

Only Costco. Did I have I announced publicly except for the discord that the new warehouse I'm opening does not have chicken bakes. They got fresh sushi made to order instead. That would be so much better in my book. I think that's wrong opinion. I want chicken bakes up here. Sushi is fun and all, but like, I don't know how much I trust. Yeah, sushi. I don't trust the kids that make the chicken bakes because they can barely like just put something in the oven for fucking three minutes and take it out. Yeah, everyone. You know, I would say same kids making sushi. I think I would trust them

last. No, I know. I and I do recount like I like sushi. I like good sushi better than a chicken bake in general. But I would not trust Costco sushi. I would trust like Wegmans pre-made sushi, which is great. I think that's amazing. I would take that over. Yeah, Costco has pre-made sushi right now. I would take that. I don't think I would take like fresh sushi because that would, how fresh is

the cost because that's a weird decision too. Yeah. We are Sam's club people and they have sushi at Sam's club. Matt is a big fan. I am personally not a huge fan. I want it to be fresher and professionally prepared, um, in a way that I don't believe that Sam's Club really can be with raw fish. So yeah, we are. Yeah. All right. Unpaid or underrated Aldi.

Fucking love all the I'm a slut for Aldi. I love all these. That is my ride or die grocery store. I have all the local Aldi's memorized. I wish that I could go to Aldi's a lot more. It's my happy place. Underrated Aldi. You're asking me only underrated things. You just want me to talk about things that make me happy. You guys are the best. A big fan of Aldi. We're in your **** quarter. The cart is worth it. I don't like the self checkout, but there is really nothing could make me hate Aldi ever.

Is it all self checkout? I haven't met an Aldi in a long time. Is it all self checkout now? I've never self checked out at Aldi. We have one last bastion in the Niagara County area. We have the Lockport Aldi, still does not have a self checkout, thank fucking God. But the other ones, it's just, if I'm going to a self checkout, I wanna have max 10 items. I don't wanna go with my whole ass cart. If I'm stocking up on groceries,

I don't want a whole cart full of shit. I don't wanna put all that through the self checkout. But I do have a half. At Aldi, here's the thing, they only have like one cashier working. So if we have one cashier working the one lane that's open for the elderly or whatever, and I've got to slum it in the self-checkout, I ain't taking all my shit out of the cart because I have to rebag it all.

Anyway, I got to keep it moving. This is Aldi. We're there with a purpose to get in and out. I grab the wand scanner. I take it to the cart Well, yeah, that's nice. And I I'm not bagging it as you go You got to keep it moving bag your shit later at the counters like everyone else. That's what I have to say about that Nice Right next to me, I'm hoping it's you know saves us some money if we actually go shopping now Where we were staying in Dublin, Ohio, there was a place across the street and they were all self-checkout. But like the self-checkouts up here, like at the Costco or the Sobeys or some of the

higher end ones, like there's somebody there to help. At the place I went in, there was just nobody. There was just like some one 80 year old guy that was just like just like staring into space and I'm going like hello like I'm not from here. I don't know any of these things like I can figure out a self checkout but it's asking me for my zip code. I don't have a zip code. How do I bypass this? He's just like like drool hanging down.

I was like well I guess I'm not buying these things. There's no bypass button or whatever it was asking me for that. Fuck it. I hate self checkouts. How did so what you had to put several items back or were you not able to purchase at all? I ended up finding somebody like I just ended up getting somebody and I'm going like, I don't have one of these. And they were like, just put ours in and I was like, I don't know yours either. I'm from

Canada. Like we have six digit postal codes that are for you. Yeah. Yeah, that's now you're annoying me with yourself checkout rather than making it convenient. Most scenarios code. I mean, what do they need? Yeah, 69696969, like nice, nice, nice, and get out the door. I mean, that's too many digits, but I see what you're trying to do. It would just stop taking it once you've 69 enough. Didn't mean to be an innuendo, but it's true.

That was actually probably one of your best innuendos, to be honest with you. I'm happy it was an accident. Last but not least, unpaid or underrated Travis Kelce. Is it Kelsey or Kelsey? Don't fucking correct me on that one. It's Kelsey. It's one million percent Kelsey. It's not Kelsey. Okay. There's not an H at the end. It's not Kelchee like ch-ch-ch-chia. Okay, and there was no H in Corchy. Huh? The other guy who's name is not wrong. Oh yeah, we fucked that up so bad.

We did not get that one right at all. There he is. Big, big hot to the rescue. Big, big hot. How do you say Travis's name? Hot dog! So we just got our last unpaid and underrated in. Travis Kelty. Um, we don't have a huge opinion. So we just got our last unpaid and underrated in Travis Kelsey.

You don't have a huge opinion. I like Taylor Swift. I like the thing. Travis Kelsey. I am not a huge, I'm not the biggest fan, but I'm not going to say that he's unpaid. I'm going to say that he's underrated. He's fine. He's a, he's a great football player. Don't ask me what position he plays. I'm not really good at football. It's not me either. But he's fine. He's fine. He makes players happy. I'm happy. Everyone's happy.

That's the spirit. Underrated. All right. Well, I think you passed unpaid and underrated. Yay. You did. This is thank God. I thought you're going to kick me off if I didn't pass. Well, that's why Scott was here. Scott's here to kick you off if I didn't pass. Well, that's why Scott was here. Scott's here to kick you off if you don't pass.

Yep. Using a forer. You'll have to take your spot. Well, let's see. Big Scott there. Big Scott, did you want to ask for one of your questions? We honestly didn't get a chance to get to that. Is there anything you wanted to ask Big Jess that we can keep under a minute or two? How do you keep from dying laughing every time your husband yells tits instead of hips

when you're dead lifting? We did ask that one. That was the only one we did ask. That's all good. I think you had to get three more. That one I didn't have labeled as Scott. I think it was under Toby's name or something, just the way it in any other ones.

Just books books related I've been keeping track of her her books that she's been reading and we both have read I've read all of the alphabet mysteries and she's been going through it and those are special books. Yeah, they're just cozy. I love them. I just finished Q over the weekend so I'll be going on to the rest of the alphabet. Our through why very shortly here, I really I'm really enjoying them. You know, it started with like a book club had us read the first book in

the series A is for alibi. And the general consensus is that they did not really like it, but I loved it. So I am happy to keep going through the rest of this 25 book series. And I'm so glad that Scott loves it too. I recommend these many ones. They're just a fun, a fun mystery. It's very authentically set in the eighties and I'm very happy with it.

One of my favorites this year for sure. They felt like they just feel like home. They make me feel like home every time I read them. And yeah. Sounds interesting. Yeah, cause I do like like period piece, like movies and shows, like shit from the eighties and early nineties and stuff. Sounds interesting. Yeah, because I do. I do like like period piece like movies and shows like shit from the 80s and early 90s and stuff that's always give you that nostalgia.

I don't know that I'm trying to think like I mean, I've read like there's like. Portraying the 80s in a book would be so much harder, I guess, than like because it's so visual and shit on like a TV or a movie. So I'd be. She started writing it in the 80s and just kept the character there. So throughout the 20, 30 years that she the eighties and just kept the character there So throughout the 20 30 years that she wrote them She just kept the character in the same spot that makes sense that makes sense better than being like I'm just gonna You know tell a story from 40 years ago

I have a theory about why all the movies right now take place in the 80s and 90s And it's because they don't want to include cell phones because cell phones make every story harder You can't have a horror movie like with a genuine like stalker killer if everybody's just constantly filming them. And I think that I think that that's why a lot of these movies are going back like Wonder Woman 1984. That's why they can't do a modern Wonder Woman because we would just know who she is. We all have cameras all the time.

Yeah. Every horror movie is like it's like a cabin in the woods where there's no cell service or like some kind of element eliminating technology. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's why we are seeing a lot of these. It's easier to make this in the 80s type of thing. That's just a theory. I think the most recent. What was it? One of the most recent Halloween's I think we leave is the Halloween. Yeah. No, it was a Texas chainsaw massacre There was one where they just all took out their cell phones and they just fucking cut them all up with the chains It was it was hysterical was they were they were all like live streaming

He just fucking cuts them all up But I do yes like cell phone Yes like a cell phone can solve them like 90% of the mysteries and like avoid 80% of like deaths and like Yeah any movie so I do that. I think that's probably why period pieces do do so do do so well. Yep. Do do.

All right, big Jess, do you have anything you want to hit the Joey, the Joey and the Keith with as I don't know how to speak. I have so many. Either Kelsey, I'm short. I have a lot of stuff for you guys. Either we can try to keep it short and go through it, but we got a little bit of time. Yeah. Okay. Business first.

The sisters, they had a great merch drop last week. When are we going to have the next unpaid and underrated merch drop? Are we going to have unpaid and underrated Silke's? I mean, we need everyone to buy out our first run. I kind of like periodically throw up a thing to help motivate some of our past guests, but I don't think they care enough anymore because I've got like 20 or 30 guests that just won't buy the shirt. I'm just like, OK, OK. OK.

OK. Well, my T-shirted out. We have I'm T-shirted out. I feel it. Yeah, I can't. I can't anymore. There was one that came out the other. I'm T-shirted out. I feel it. Yeah, I can't I can't anymore There was one that came out the other day

And I wanted to buy it so bad it essentially said if you've ever heard anything bad about me believe that shit and leave Me the fuck alone and I was like that would be ideal for me to wear to work like with all of the other the managers and stuff because like that's precisely where I am but like like, again, I just, I have, I have so many shirts that I have two drawers full and then the top of my dresser is the rest of them. And that's stacked up as high as the TV. So like I just, I'm T-shirted out and I, I can't keep my plus swear words around the kids. My, my five year old is just starting to read.

That's unfortunate. Yeah. Yeah. The, the old lift heavy eat ass is currently on the kids. My my five year old is just starting to read. That's unfortunate. Yeah, yeah. The the old lift heavy eat ass is currently on the floor under the bed getting ready for the garbage because he can't he can't read that one. You know, if you put it away, you know, one day you will be able to bring it back out. You know, I wouldn't throw it away. When are you going to get the chance to have a shirt like that again? I'm going to cut the sleeves off.

I mean, you know, what's almost as good as a pair of silkies is a unpaid and underrated banner and you know, it, you know, yeah, plates, snacks, code unpaid and get you one of those. So silky. I would love to release more silkies because I, I like I have one pair and they're impossible to find some days. They want. Yeah. Yeah.

Bright red, just as everything is fine on it. Okay. I'm moving on. Okay. We've had this conversation, not specifically, but the group in general about like, what is like the one lift to move them all or one movement that you think is like, the quintessential like marker of strength or fitness. Some people say it's like bench or squat or deadlift. Other people might get in like an overhead press or something that just can kind of show like I've got a base level of fitness and health.

I have an idea about that and I love to yap about it. And that is if you can do one of, no Scott, it's not deadlift. That's just the best. Scott's trying to give me some subliminal messaging over there. It's not deadlift, but thank you for your input. If you can do one of these, I feel like, okay, you've got a good starting point

and that is doing one single cartwheel. Doesn't have to be a perfect cartwheel, but if you can do one cartwheel, you've got a little bit of balance, coordination, you need some strength, upper body, you need to be able to kind of control your trunk, you know, have some core strength to go over, you know, hands down and then feet down and not wiping out. Any thoughts on that? Joey, you don't even need to say anything. I know that you would do five cartwheels right now, if I asked you to. One handed or two? Anyone?

Well, I mean, choose your own adventure, Joey. Whatever floats your boat. If I tried to do one down my hallway right now, I'd pull a big tanner and put a huge ass print in my drywall, so I probably don't want to do that. I think I'd break my wrist. I think this body weight and just having issues with some like wrist pain already, like, oh, I don't see that being something I'd wanna do at 255 pounds, give me down to 200 and I'll try it.

We gotta like start on like a trampoline or like some kind of soft surface, maybe work our way up to a cartwheel. I feel that I could do a cartwheel, it's not gonna be pretty, it's not gonna get me a gold medal. But I feel like I can at least do one. And when I think about the people in my life, I'm like, well, do I think going to get me a gold medal. But I feel like I can at least do one. And I when I think about the people

in my life, I'm like, well, do I think that they could do a cart wheel or not? Yes or no. If the answer is no, I don't really care about their opinions as much. I've got some people who I won't name, but you know, who try to tell me what I should be doing with my health or you know, whatever. Oh, I'm sure everyone has an idea about your. So you went from like not lifting most of your life to being a woman or late 20s, early 30s that just started, that got into geared powerlifting

for their husband. I'm sure your friends and family are like, Jess, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. Yeah. I've got some people that think, you know, it's too much weight. It's not good for your spine. It's not. And I'm like, you know, can you do a current wheel? If the answer is no, then's too much weight. It's not good for your spine. It's not good for, and then I'm like, you know, can you do a current wheel? If the answer's no, then don't talk to me. Stephanie showed her mom,

Stephanie showed her mom the videos of all my static monster lifts and she saw the picking up the stone and she, in like the 10 seconds after watching it, I think she said like eight different times how bad that was for my back and how worried she was for me. And I'm just like, okay, thanks.

I, I think, you know what I would throw in sitting down cross-legged and then standing up again, I can do that. No hands. Yeah. I would even say no hands, but like, if you can do that without hurting yourself, I think you're probably at a good base level of mobility for our age. Scott disagrees. Scott's a little skeptical about the ability to sit down cross legged.

I think, I mean, for a lot of men, I think truly sitting cross legged is not an easy feat. Uh, I cannot relate. I have no problem sitting down, but I am sorry for them because I love to sit. From, from standing to the floor and back up and you, if you can do it without making the noise, then you're even more advanced. I believe that getting out of your chair for a cold brew screw is on our new, uh, our shiny new crew RP scale.

I think that's the number three, but it's the number nine. If you're in the master's category. So damn it getting there wobbly chair here. You didn't buy a new chair. I look forward to seeing you guys do the master's category. So damn it. Getting there. I'm just wobbly chair here. You didn't buy no chair. I look forward to seeing you guys do some cartwheels. I know Scott will let me down and Joey, I'm sure you will do a cartwheel as soon as we hang up. Yeah, like it's they're they're easy for me.

My old Spider-Man mobility here. OK. I'm going to move on. It is the Halloween episode. I have some Halloween themed questions for you guys. I would love to hear about your favorite Halloween costume ever. Childhood, adult, what is your favorite costume or your favorite memory of dressing up for Halloween? I think I went as the, I remember I going as the like the Eric Draven, the crow in middle in fuck no, it would have been like third grade or something. So I'm wearing like, you know, I, that was back when you could like take like toy machine guns and shit to the fucking school and had like a long, a long wig and

like the shittiest white makeup with like the black lipstick and everything. And that's when I always remember. And I remember like going trick or treating, it was so horrible because like the shit was just, you're all sweating and stuff. Cause it was like a hot, I think it was like a hot fucking October and I'm just like the makeups are running down your face and shit And yeah, very that was unpleasant. But just that's the only one That's the only one that really sticks out that I remember like actively being like this is fucking cool I'm not wearing a hand-me-down because I had you know, two six two brothers or six years older like 90% of the shit I had to wear which is like hand-me-down shit shit so like not having to wear a hand me down Halloween costume and I'm sure

like I'm pretty sure half of it was hand me down shit just like morphed you know Frankenstein into what I considered that costume so Dodds wanted to point out that his Mac costume tonight is one of his favorite um nice from nice. The McDonald's. Yep. Oh yeah. My dad made me a moon head when I was a kid to be matched tonight from the Mac McDonald's commercials. Remember that? No, maybe I do. I'd have to love, if I look it up, I might remember it.

It might also shock you, Keith. I was also the crow in high school multiple times, but I actually had long hair. So we just got like the temporary black spray because it was just easy for me to do like I just had long hair yeah why wouldn't you and it was the best movie ever and interestingly I think I'm gonna try and do that again this Halloween but we're just gonna like we're gonna run the paint down the beard you never gave me your still Jessica's episode for two seconds you never gave me your feedback on, we'll still Jessica's episode for two seconds.

You never gave me your feedback on when you did watch the remake. Oh, we texted about it. I can't remember. Yeah, absolutely. Uh, it, if that movie was two hours long, 15 minutes of it was a curl movie. Yes. Like it just, it's this weird thing where like, we don't need an hour and a half of how much they love each other.

The first Crow movie showed us that in the first 20 minutes. And this movie was like, no, the entire movie is that then we'll get 15 minutes of revenge kills. And I was like, no, like I've got the original comics sitting in a box right? Like five feet from me. You could have done so much more. Either way, my favorite was one that I invented myself. So I got well, I'm going to give you two because they're mishmash.

I did the I did a where's Waldo. But then I also wore a werewolf costume under it, so I was Werewaldo. I like that. It was a lot to explain, but when I finally got it, like when people are like, oh, that's pretty funny. Like, yeah, I know. And it was hot as shit. And then I did Canadian Spider-Man, where I wore like a full Spider-Man jumpsuit, but with like a denim jacket and like one of those like weird toques that with the flaps on the ears. And if you remember that was about the time the song out for a rip was really popular, but I was telling

everybody it was out for a thwip, which is the sound that they always use for Spider-Man's webbing. That was really funny. Um, for me at least. And then I ended up going on a mechanical bull. That was a wild Halloween. Um, I've had a lot of really fun costumes, the fiend, the first time I dressed as the fiend, uh, that was really fun, especially because I saw another little kid dressed as the fiend and we got to have like a really cool conversation about our favorite wrestler together. Um, and he was like 12 years old and he had like he had more things than I had. He had like the head lantern and he had like the gloves and like, you know, it was

just so cool to see a kid, right reflected in an adult and like we were both like so excited to meet each other. Yeah, so that would be those ones. I try to do something silly every Halloween. I Halloween is my favorite time of the year. Oh, yeah, it's very fun. Very spooky. So let's hear what is your favorite Halloween candy druthers acceptable doesn't need to be a full mount rush more. But if you like candy, if you don't like candy, what's your preferred snack or beverage? You know, this time of year, let's hear about it.

Reese cups, for sure. Well, just a basic Reesy cup like none of those very flavored vanilla whatever the fuck like just give me not even like the pumpkins though this is fucking like Reese's pumpkin season like pumpkin somehow every year it's not pumpkin flavor it's shaped like a pumpkin yeah oh well I guess but no I like the I like the texture of the ridges and I don't like change change is fucking the worst thing in the world. So taking the perfect fucking snack of a Reese's Cup that has the ridges around it that are just like comfort and like half of it is like it tastes like what it's supposed to because you're like chewing those like fucking that feel the right way on his the right way on this time. It's got mouthfeels. Yeah, it literally has a mouthfeel. So taking that away and making it just, making it a- Rid for his pleasure. Yeah. Yeah, indeed. Somehow my kids, whenever they come home, they never have any Reese's and I don't

know what happened there. They just- They eat them on the way home. Somebody does. And Reese's cups are a million times better than Reese's pieces. They just eat them on the way home. Somebody does. And Reese's Cups are a million times better than Reese's Pieces. Reese's Pieces are like so much not a Reese's Cup. They have their own place. It's a different candy. Peanut M&M's for me too, would be right up there.

But I actually don't eat a lot of candy. I have my gummy bears. Yeah, I have my gummy bears behind me for when deadlifts make me want to pass out. And I just need a very quick glucose hit So that I don't fall over So I actually just don't eat candy. So I really enjoyed like the chips and stuff that we get sometimes I'll eat what you guys call smarties. We call Rockets I like to steal those from kid from the kids every once in a while just cuz they're they're just chalky

So you guys give chips out like like little like family like family Yeah, you buy them in boxes of 60 at Costco. Yeah It all comes back to Costco It's my love is a full circle One more Halloween question and let's get a little bit spooky with it. I want to hear what you guys are afraid of. Do you have any phobias? What will you not fuck with? Watching a scary movie alone in like a dark house.

Like I got to I have to I have to. That's my jam. I have to music. I don't know. I remember I was being like I was somewhat afraid of the dark at certain times as a kid. As far as like today, I was somewhat afraid of the dark at certain times as a kid As far as like today, what am I afraid of like? I don't know change As far as like a stereotypical like

Like I'm not afraid of spiders just don't want to kill them like you know what I mean? Like I don't I don't know I don't I can't think of something that I'm like tariff like I don't have a Quote-unquote phobia that I could dump you maybe ask Stephanie should could tell you one, but I can't, I don't know. I don't, I can't think of something that I'm like, tariff. Like I don't have a quote unquote phobia that I could, I'm sure if you maybe asked stuff and I should could tell you one, but I can't think of it. Wide open spaces bother me unknown wide open spaces. Absolutely. If it's the idea that just suddenly the, my, more particularly when I wasn't in control. So now that I'm the main driver, it's a less of an issue.

But if I was driving with like my mom or somebody and we were going through like a wide open country space and there's no Houses and there's no nothing that would terrify me as a kid Really? Well, it's not it's not like a lack of trust for anybody, but it was just like if I was alone here I died There's no way I could do anything and that's Probably what like kicked in some of the survival training I started doing as a teenager, like getting used to like carrying a knife and learning how to start a fire and all that kind of shit. But that would always terrify me as a kid.

A pack tear. Yeah, that would suck. I definitely don't want to do one of those or an or an ACL tear. Any kind of tear, truly. Yeah. I don't like, I'm one of those people kind of like Keith, where like, I wouldn't say I'm afraid of anything, but I know when to give something distance, right? Like if I'm out, usually at night by myself,

and it's usually in the winter, cause it's my favorite thing to do is just on a night I don't have to work in the morning I light a fire I crack a beer and I sit in the backyard in the dark around the fire we call it the mental health fire if I start to hear coyotes get too close I start to gauge how many times I have to look behind my back it's not that I'm afraid of coyotes because they don't usually mess with people and like I feel like I could take a coyote But like I know enough. Okay, sounds like there's a few of you sounds like you're getting kind of close. Maybe I'll go in the house Right, so I wouldn't say I'm afraid of those types of things, but I definitely know to give them distance

It sounds like you might be a little afraid. That's okay. I've got something they're afraid of. Well, that would be the same thing. One day I was walking down the street as a teenager and I saw a wolf in the fucking street. But then I remember that we had a guy that had a pet wolf that lived up the street. And I was so not scared of this thing before I remembered whose it was. And then I was like, wait a minute, Cash dog looks at me and comes running over and I took him home. So like, I'm not like, like I said, there's no phobia where I'm just like,

but again, I'm sitting in the dark by myself with a cornfield behind me full of coyotes. Might be time to give them their space. Time to go inside. I would say. All right, I've got one last question for you guys. Oh, Keith got cut off. No, oh, Keith go ahead. I was just gonna say like, I would say I got one last question for you guys. Oh Oh, I was just gonna say like I would say I used to be a lot more I was like if this was like three Years ago, like what are you afraid of like fucking public interactions with like people? Like going up to people that I should should be comfortable talking to and just now I will and probably wouldn't, you know,

a few years ago. So kind of like the stuff we, you know, we touched base that on the wives episode, but, uh, yeah, yeah, just, I guess it's, it's, I don't know. I don't have a phobia as a 40 year old man that I know of. That you know of. That I know of. You've done great. I'm sure subconsciously there's something in there. Now, now I'll be aware of it. And when I figure it out, I'll be like, it's all I can see is this phobia

that Big Jess ruined my life with that now I'm aware of. When I was a kid, I used to love heights. And somewhere in like my late thirties, it suddenly just became very uncomfortable. But I think it was the intrusive thoughts that made it uncomfortable. Cause you'd look over the edge and your brain would go, you could do it.

And then you're like, whoa, like now I'm so very uncomfortable here. Right? So I wouldn't say it's a phobia because like I still love roller coasters and everything like that. But yeah, maybe that one too. That always makes me weirded out seeing that kind of thing. I had a similar thing. Like when I was younger, I had no problem with like open water, but now I cannot, I cannot fuck with open water. Yeah. Like a pond, even a pond with like not very clear water, any lake or river, any fucking anything could be in there, man. I even can swim right up and get me even like the microbes, like the little bacteria shit. I don't, I don't want any, I don't want to even want my toenails in it. I want no part of me in that water.

I'll be in the pool. I'd love to see the water. I will watch the water from the sand. I'll be looking at it from the coast. I do not want to be in the water. It's actually, that's a good one. I remember as a kid, um, we went out to a cottage to record an album and we arrived kind of for dinner.

So we ate dinner. And then the first thing I did was run and dive into the lake at like 11 PM. Like that was like, I was so determined to do that. And now I look at Blackwater and I'm like, I don't even like driving near Lake Superior. I'm like, that's a terrifying land area. I don't want to be.

Nope. Nope. Not for me. All right. That's all right. I got one last one. Keep going. We are moving away from all right. I got one last one. Keep going. We are moving away from Halloween.

We are leading into Christmas season. As any of your wives, I'm sure will tell you November 1st, this is the start of Christmas season. Some people may have their druthers about that, but I want Christmas presents are already in the room next to me that she's got a wrap. We've got the same idea. I am ready to shift into Christmas mode. What is, in your opinion,

the right time to put up the Christmas tree or what is the earliest acceptable time? A very, very hot topic. It's very easy for me. My birthday, December 13th. No sooner Christmas tree goes up within a day or two of that. Say within a week of Thanksgiving being over maybe. So Thanksgiving already happens. American Thanksgiving. So yeah, basically any, I guess, because depending on how the month falls, but like the very,

very end of November, I mean, December, ideally, but I don't know. I have cats so we don't have a tree. I haven't, haven't had a tree since I looked at yeah, that'll do it Wow, technically the stuff the wife she did buy me a tree when we were catless and now it won't ever come back out Because it's the cats will fucking eat it. So they're stupid That's how it goes man. How about you Scott? Well as late as possible It's possible because I hope I always forget to water it and then it gets too dry and then

when I take it out I get needles everywhere. As a kid several years in a row we used to get them on Christmas Eve and make like in a whole Christmas Eve tradition putting the tree up and decorating it but. But lighten that dry tree on fire is top tier. Yeah, you take that out. We save them for the next spring every year. Yeah. I guess that is another part of it like real tree versus artificial tree. I am unfortunately an artificial tree person.

I know that real tree people get very angry about it. I know I know Scott I know it's a travesty, but here's the thing. I can count on one person to help me put up the tree and that person is myself. Matt has never or very rarely ever helps put up the tree. Now we have a really tall ceiling in the room. We put our tree in, so it's a very large tree. It's a multi-day project to get the tree up.

It would not be cost efficient to buy a giant ass tree every year. So we have our artificial tree. I love the artificial tree because it takes so long to put it up. I want to put it up as soon as possible. If I could get away with putting it up on election day, because that is a holiday for me from work, I would put it up on election day. But in lieu of that, because I won't have any help, I will probably... It's like November 11th. Do you have that thing up for like a month and a half? You'll have it It would be more to be like two and a half because you probably just take it down until fucking like February mid January Yeah, yeah, I got to get my times worth out of it. I put a lot of I agree with that like my

Mike my mom always decorated she always you know everything to the tins on anything, festive. And it was always early, early December, basically probably the weekend after Thanksgiving, typically. The shit started getting decorated. And that was great as a kid, because then it's more in the festive mindset. So if I could have a tree, yeah, I

would have it up all December. So we're a real tree family, but that's just because, um, this will come to a surprise as nobody. I don't actually care. I actually wouldn't put up a tree at all if it wasn't for the kids. Like I have no, my grandma was always the Christmas person. So I have one little ceramic tree. That's like a foot and a half tall. That's my tree. That was my grandma's when she died, it became mine. That's my tree. But because we have my wife cares and my kids care, we have a tree farm we go to, we cut it down ourselves, or we just go get it at the whatever. But I would actually do one of the artistic artificial trees, like one of those white ones with the lights built in that just looks super cool. I would do one of the artistic artificial trees, like one of those white ones with the lights built in that just looks super cool. I would do one of those, but she can't. She

says no real trees. She apparently likes the rotting corpse in our living room for a month. You got to compromise. Happy wife, happy life. Correct. Happy spouse, happy house. Yeah, I like that. That's nice. Alright guys, that's all I have. Alright. Wanna round it all down there, Keith? Absolutely. So everyone, do us a favor and head over to our friends and your friends' website. We've got some affiliate links for you. So, Obsidian, Barbell Rescue, Plate Snacks, Home Gym Con, Belt Fed fed strength and apparel from the strength go go ahead and use code unpaid and save you a little bit of money on all those websites and maybe get us a little one step closer that speedboat and

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