Unpaid And Underrated - 090 : Odde Hot Arena

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Tommy Stapler. They dive right into great topics like "What does the Costco logo look like?", facebook groups, metal, wrestling, and hairlines. Links Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @tommy_schneider22 (https://www.instagram.com/tommy_schneider22/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Tommy Stapler.

Hello everybody and welcome to episode 22 of the unpaid and underrated podcast. Podcast for crew by crew and mocked relentlessly by other members of the crew. I am joined by Big Keith. Howdy howdy. Howdy, howdy. Howdy, howdy. Hi, how's everyone doing today? Pretty damn good. Oh yeah, who's that? Is that, that's, that's big, big Tommy. Tommy.

Some might refer to me as a stapler. The stapler. I was trying not to do it. I was like, I wanted somebody else to bring it up first. Kill him. The staveler, I was trying not to do it. I was like, I wanted somebody else to bring it up first. I'll. Yeah, I'm sure we'll get to that and beat that dead horse into the ground on this episode. Yeah. Anyway. So, yeah, listen to the backlog and on episode 90, I don't know where Tanner goes. Hi, how's everybody doing today? And it was so out of place and weird I thought it was so funny.

It's definitely hard if you like just randomly cherry pick an old one and you're not used to it. It definitely at all catches you off guard for sure. The whole thing catches me off guard hey there's big carp's forehead. Love you buddy. Big Carp's forehead. Love you, buddy. All right. Let's start. What are you wearing? What do you got on?

Anything cool? I've got the deadlift shirt on specifically because a lot of times I, I will, I'll wear this shirt on Friday when I work out and I got a, like I have a variety of deadlifts I got to do tomorrow as I'm prepping for a strongman show in a couple weeks that I might do I'm still deciding depending on how tomorrow goes with that Oh, uh dictate if I actually want to do the show or not because I have to do some like fairly heavy odd Deadlifts that I'm not used to so we'll see how that goes. But yeah the the dead lifter What about you there Tommy? I have got on the new metal nomix zip up and also the new crispy boy shirt Yes, sir my love of beer and death metal all in one I love it

Death metal I've heard of that I've got the the chicken bake shirt going Yeah, I thought that was pretty funny. I went to my barber today. Haven't seen her since I opened the new store and She's like well. You must really be loving your new position you were in a Costco shirt, and then I was like Look closer the shirt just doesn't land in Canada because we don't have chicken bakes right yeah That's funny. She even is it just because like that is not like it's the Costco logo. I didn't even get that I guess I don't She's I guess that's true I don't things that I don true. I don't know, man. I fucking hate that. I hate chicken. You can make sure that I don't things that I don't enjoy.

I don't give enough attention to, but I guess I'm trying to like picture the Costco logo that I see. It's literally on my shirt. It just goes instead of chicken bake. I guess that's funny. I would have never got that. That's you guys. Yeah, this is going to be silly hawk stuff.

And isn't it? I was like, I guess that makes sense because I'm like, I guess there's not really a chicken bake logo. There's just just just the word chicken bake. Yeah, damn it. Interesting part about one of our segments. So fuck preemptively to say fuck you to everybody that makes fun of me for that. Living a hawk life. Yep. Was it big Bowen today that said something like one of our segments where we ask if

there's a shirt you regret not buying. He said now every time a drop happens he looks and says am I going to regret that if they ask me on my episodes now he's everything. Yeah i forgot to track the name on that one but that was pretty funny i was like yeah we're doing our job over here for selling shirts from mass in on. My buddy my buddy jason man who parks in jim who's technically crew but like. My buddy Jason, man who parks in gym, who's technically crew, but like not really. Cause like he, he's currently in this. He, well, I know he is crew and he is in discord. He just doesn't really consume the podcast or anything.

Uh, it does a long backstory of why you joined crew. That I won't get into, but nonetheless, uh, he's got his own podcast that he does. And he has a bunch of home gym content, but, um, I don't know if he's actually making it or not, but I think he's going to make a stall mat t-shirt. And I'm just like, I might buy that just because the irony of that Like that would be a purchase and I'm like if he doesn't make it I think Tanner and Tommy should make some variation of it let's do a grip shirt and do the stall mat like The feel of it as the grip shirt that would be very funny

Big thanks to Matt Horstl for inventing those. Yeah Like when I when I reshirt that on my on my Jim's page I got a fair amount of likes from like people that don't know what Mastanomics is and we're just kind of like, you know I found it found it amusing. Yeah, cuz it's hilarious. It's It was invented by Matt Horstl to protect your gym floors. Yep. Yep. 100%. That's where it's from. Just what are you drinking over there? Do we already do that one? No, I did a parade. I don't fucking because we spent a half hour making fun of me and the chicken bake. Waterloo peach. Very good. What do you got over there, Tommy? I've got a Shock Top, a Belgian and also a Cherry Popsicle C4 for the right home.

Shock Top, you got an orange for that Shock Top? I should have asked Jake if he had one or not, but that's a rookie mistake on my part. Yeah, it just adds a little bit adds a little what's up? You're recording in Jake and Nas's place like yes, sir That's hysterical. It's like the second home of unpaid and underrated. There's been more podcasts recorded in that studio than ours There's been two I mean because it was the one episode but we call it to get two guests recorded out of that house Yeah, and now you're free. That's great So when we get the other guys on there the rest of the team down the road

We'll have to make sure they record there too. I guess it just has to happen. Oh Yeah, I mean if you get Jacob over in here, he's he's I think he's having dinner in now with his girlfriend But I don't know he's he's on the he's in the he's in the backlog. He's got a he's gonna be crew a little bit longer He was he was he's pretty new. So he's fresh. He's very fresh he's in the he's in the backlog. He's got to be he's got to be cruel a bit longer. He was he was he's pretty new. So he's fresh. He's very fresh. Get him in there. We forced him to sign up to come to Fruit Falls. So

speaking of horse stall, that's I mentioned last week that I left the Facebook group, that awful, awful Facebook group, only to find out later that I have become a meme with my dead lifting gloves So now I kind of regret leaving because like I'm seeing all the references in discord and hearing how just like in that page Now they constantly reference how to not damage your dead lifting gloves on your deadlift bar I mean, that's that's been like a running. I mean, I wouldn't say that That's solely you there's been people making fun of lifting gloves and people that wear gloves etc for years and years

But that is funny if it uh, you know, you you're refreshing people's mind my terrible terrible joke That group pissed me off this morning. I opened up my phone and it was some douchebag with like the sexist remarks Yeah And then so then I shared then I had I kind of like, you know, lit him up and then, god damn it, in Keith's fashion I had a typo that completely like changed the context of the statement. And I didn't catch it until like, the end of the day. Um, fucking, uh, who was it, uh, the fucking, god damn it, I can't think of who it was. I know who it was. Doesn't matter, continue the story yeah he fucking DM me he was like I really hope that you edited that cuz I said sexiest instead of sex nice yeah I was like god damn it

it really did like I did like look now you look like a dick no no like did you think I think he's sexy like he no because the content is clear in the context that I was calling him a douchebag but god damn damn it Fucking typo just made me look like a schmuck It's always those types of stupid Facebook groups and it's part of like why I don't do them anymore So I like when I first joined Facebook I joined like this bearded group And what I always liked about it was it was just like dudes talking about how to take care of your beard But then it always turns into just like beards for for this candidate, and then it turns into politics. So I left that fucking group.

Then my one buddy, who I love, he runs a cigar group, which is actually like Canada wide. It's one of the biggest cigar groups. But there's always the dumb shit. And eventually Morgan and I both left the group because she used to smoke cigars with me because it would always just be like, the cigar girl of the the month and it would just be like a girl in a bikini smoking a cigar and I'd be like Oh, cuz it's a dick right like it's she's sexy

Because it's supposed to look like a phallic object and they would delete our comments But it's just like what does this have to do with enjoying cigars like grow up. You are 40 year old men cut down have to do with enjoying cigars. Like grow up. You are 40 year old men. Calm down. She's like 18. Like relax dude. So eventually yeah, it's time to time to we gotta leave this world behind. Anyway, that's that's Joey's Facebook rant. Well, so take the the tick tock band bass lasted about 30 seconds, but it's probably too political to really get into that. But I've had edging that lasted longer than that. I think I commented on the tanner post that I've had shits that have lasted longer than the TikTok ban.

Edging sessions that have lasted longer than that. Like, what a joke. I thankfully never downloaded that. So I just, I've got too much brain rot with Instagram. I don't need anything else. Yeah, I post on there like once or twice a year. And it's just like, you know, it's no traction and it's just fucking toxic people in there. It's the worst of the social media.

I actually interestingly find it the opposite. I think my Instagram doom scrolling leads me to a lot more dumber people because Tick Tock, my algorithm, I've kind of it. The algorithm is a little better on TikTok. Like it tracks how long you last on something, where you look, all that kind of stuff. Whereas Instagram is just like, you follow a bodybuilder, therefore you like naked ladies. And there's just like nudity all over. And like, I can't open Instagram at work anymore. Like TikTok is so hard on that stuff that like you can open TikTok and just get like your stuff like the stuff you want. So but I rarely post on TikTok. I don't even comment anymore because like yeah it's full it. It attracts the same people that everything else attracts bozos.

people that everything else attracts. Bozos. So I watched a movie this week. It wasn't a great movie, but it made me think of you, Joey, because I know you, you know, if not, if not a Fred Durst fan, you're at least very aware of him and his era of music. And so the movie is Y2K. So it's like a, it's a cheesy horror movie that came out this year based on if Y2K actually happened

and like all these electronic devices actually like banded together to like take out the human race. So it was almost like, it was maximum overdrive adjacent kinda like in like 1999 slash, you know, like Christmas Eve 2000 or New Year's Eve 2000. So, you know, our era like 1999 slash, you know, like Christmas Eve, not 2000 or New Year's Eve, 2000. So, uh, you know, our era when we were, you know, 13, 14, whatever. So like, I remember, uh, I think I was 15. I was a freshman in high

school during, during that. Uh, so it was kind of cool. It was actually the beginning of the movie was actually kind of neat cause it was like very nostalgic and like before like the cheesy horror movie started, it was just like almost just like a scene, a teen comedy, like based in 2000. And I was like, Oh, it was almost just a teen comedy based in 2000. And I was like, oh, it's actually like the attire and everything was kind of on point,

but then it just was a very, very bad, corny horror movie. And I know you like stupid horror movies, or at least you, I know you like horror movies, I don't know about stupid horror movies, but anyway, there was a, without giving too many spoilers away, there was 50-year-old Fred Durst, call him 50, he's gotta be 50-ish,. There was 50 year old Fred Durst calling.

He's got to be 50 ish playing 25 year old Fred Durst in 2000. That's great. It was it was and it even had the who was who was his guitar guitar, the guitar player West Portland. West was in there. But I don't even if it was because West was kind of like zombified in the background. So like he didn't have any lines or anything.

But I'm like, that's definitely who that is. That sounds like Wes, to be honest with you. Yeah, I'm in your movie, but I am saying shit. I know you do your horror movie once a week thing. Give Y2K a shot, not great. I think I gave it a five out of 10, but for the nostalgia aspect of being 2000 and then the Fred Durst scenes are just hysterical.

Did you watch hundreds of beavers? No. I'll add it to my MPD. Yeah, please add it to your list. I'm putting it out there for now. We've talked about it privately with me, you and Nate. And I think Nate- Is it hundreds like H or like the number?

Number. Yeah, it's essentially an old style. I think it was made in 2022. It's a an old style. I can it was made in 2022. It's a slapstick comedy About a guy who has to like Like survive in the frontier, but it's this is really good ratings. Yeah, cuz it's seven seven point seven I have not laughed out loud Like yeah, I'll give it a shot scared my wife because we were watching it and I started laughing so hard

at like somebody falling down in years. And like, I don't think I've laughed that loud since Jackass. And it's, I honestly saw, I turned to Morgan and I was like, they tapped into my sense of humor perfectly. It's a clean movie. The kids can watch it. There's no swearing. There's like one like kind of sexy scene but there's no nudity but honestly. The cigar was the dick right? Yeah the cigar was the dick. That was the sexy scene. Yeah but honestly yeah I'm putting that out there if you like just stupid silly funny movies

definitely got to put that out there. Shaun of the Dead I think Jackass 4 was after Shaun of the Dead so I'll give you that one, Gar. But yeah, that's movie talk for the day. What's the next? Let's do some housekeeping. Last week's Mastonomics episode was the John Hack episode. Don't remember a ton about it. He did talk about, I liked all the Strongman to talk, you know, when he actually like kind of recap his Strongman stuff. Always a big Strongman guy, John Hack, you know. Literally it's like kind of recap his strongman stuff always a big strongman guy John hack You know literally it's crazy that he's like literally the like one of the best, you know, if not the best, you know

Untested untested lifter and he's dabbling in strongman That like he kind of just shows that like even elite level power lifters get fucking bored of power lifting and want to dabble in strongman because it's different and cool and still strength related. So that was probably my favorite part in it. So I will go ahead and give it a five out of five Maxomics gym iPod touches. Tommy, what'd you think? I'd agree. I always enjoy when John's on the podcast with them. I don't remember if he did his Brandon Dassey impersonation like he usually does but for none other than that uh not always enjoyable to hear John talk and like Keith said hearing him talk about uh his dabbling and strong man and all that it's always fun so of course Tanner and Tommy always make things

enjoyable to listen to so five out of five uh Mastronomics I err Jesus I can't talk tonight uh iPod Touch there we go. I did comment in tonight. iPod touch. There we go. There you go. I did comment in the discord about, so I listened to it at 1.25. I do the back catalog at 1.5 and I do the regular ones at 1.25 just because I ain't got the time to listen to slow talkers. And yeah, so you're listening to the back catalog, like the first 80 to 90 episodes, everybody talks about somebody in the podcast sounding like Beavis or Butthead John Hacks sounded to me exactly like Butthead it was at 1.25 genuinely fucking hilarious to listen to him be like yes like like this, so like, uh, like this is butthead to a T. Uh, yeah, the, the

strong man stuff is fun because I've, you know, the running joke is every strong man could be a power lifter, but not every power lifter could be a strong man. That's true. Probably. Right. I don't know. I've seen a lot of strong men that like would not want a power lift, but they'd probably, yeah, one one rap one rap max can fuck right off in my life right now so i can kind of see it was just nice to hear that and how he he did that and uh yeah so um i know there was another one there's something tommy said that that really got me laughing but i don't remember quite what it was so i would be better at taking notes on them

i'm driving when i listen so like i can't, I listened to the last night's episode for like 45 minutes too. So like that's the only thing that's fresh in my head. Masonomics. So that's why I don't do that anymore. Always like throws me. What was the first time? Because they've been copying us, obviously.

So they've been recording on Thursdays like every other week. So it's like I only get to listen to it every so often. Well, and they did hit him with overrated, underrated. Yeah, I did comment. I was actually waiting to see if we get any feedback on that from Tanner of like, you guys called us out, you blah, blah. No, I just haven't had guests. So I'll give that episode five out of five unpaid

and underrated. We got a new big drop today, too. There it was. Another box ET. I'm going to wait to see if they have it at the Arnold before I buy it because if I buy it if I buy it now it won't be here till I leave for the Arnold so fucking. I mean your mail your mail is back up and running have you so how that was it was it the whole postal service that just you didn't like actually

get like letters to your house for like three months? Is that what would actually happen? Yeah, the Canada Post essentially is a crown corporation, so they are independently owned, but they are a for-profit organization here in Canada, so they're independently owned, but they answer to the government, kind of, if that makes sense. It's like the worst part of socialism and the worst part of capitalism, like all tied together, not to get political. But yeah, they essentially went on strike and the only thing they delivered were like, they would take time from their strike to deliver like disability checks and welfare checks and things like that, just to make sure people can fucking live. Like they're not cold-hearted. So no, the cool part is I could have paid extra customs to have my certification show up faster,

because I think Cam did that. He paid customs fees plus delivery fees. And I was like, I'm not paying. I was like, I'm not paying $40 extra. I'll wait. I still paid $20 in customs. Now I'm extra mad, because I was like, if I knew I was going to pay that anyway,

I would have paid the extra to have it When everybody else got theirs, I just got it yesterday and I was in the first round of purchases. Oh wow Nine weeks ago or something That was maybe not nine. I was several. I mean that was at least Long but it was a fucking minute ago. So I'm it was right around crew falls just after I think yeah, yeah Yeah, so yeah that happened on it was right around crew falls just after I think. Yeah. OK. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, that happened. But yeah, I'm going to wait on the new drop

to see if I can buy it at the Arnold, like I said. Gotcha. Tanner, save me a shirt or don't. Yeah, there's some pretty cool stuff there. I didn't pull the trigger on anything yet. I'm still mulling that over. But as always, the crew comes in clutch and shit sells out so quick or depletes his stock pretty good.

So they're doing good with that. Did you pick anything up, Tommy? No, I'm going to wait till the Arnold like you guys are. You are, Joey. I did kind of think about it because I tore a hole in my my lifting department, T swapping last week. So but it's like, that's do I really need another T shirt? And yeah, as of right now,

it's going to be with the knurling on the bar where you're fucking latched just so wide that you just fucking a little bit of both. But I know like the gym that I train at or one of the gyms that I train at, they have the rogue squat bar and the things knurled the whole. Yeah, it's the whole way. Yes. And it's stainless steel, so I believe so. It's like it's not going to get all, you know, it's it's going to be sharp as shit. For. Yeah. And the bar rolled up my back a little bit because, you know,

shit happens. And then I had a hole in my shirt. I was kind of pissed about that. So just going to squat later, man. Yeah, that way you we don't record shirts. I'm out of beers. Darn. All right. I got a bit of a mail call here because despite Canada Post going on strike, I still got mine before you got yours. Yeah, showing up.

So this is actually the one from Big Quinn. I won't dox or anything, but it has his name on it. So I'm actually sure one from Big Quinn. I won't dox or anything, but it has his name on it, so I'm actually sure of what's coming in this time. And it says Merry Christmas, and it has Santa holding a boombox. It feels thick, like there's something in there. And it says forever and ever, Merry Christmas from Big Quinn,

Big Daniel, Big Wyatt and Big Watson. So thank you, Quinn. Merry Christmas to you, buddy. That's it. It was just a card. Gotcha. It's good stuff. So it wasn't a glitter bomb or it was a glitter bomb. I you fucking ruined it. It was a glitter bomb, but the glitter bomb? You fucking ruined it. It was a glitter bomb, but the trigger broke during delivery.

Yeah. So it didn't go off. Good. Good to hear. When I first picked it up, like I wasn't going to say anything. I just wanted Quinn to listen and be like, what? Something was supposed to happen. That's funny. But like I started feeling the package and I turned to Morgan and I was like, what? Something was supposed to happen. That's funny. But like, I started feeling the package,

and I turned to Morgan, and I was like, yeah, you did. I was like, I need you to open this over the garbage, because Quinn likes to mess with people. So open this over the garbage, and that way, I don't get bombarded with whatever's in there. And she opened it. She's like, it was a glitter bomb, but it broke. And I was like, oh, that's so much funnier.

I'm just going to not say anything. Like, it didn't work But then you told me that I literally told you that through text message, and now I'm getting glitter on me fuck Yeah, I broke it I Did I said I'm not gonna bring it up. I'm gonna pretend like it just was a card Keith Probably in there yeah I didn't get one because if I had a glitter bomb it would have ruined my evening and like not in a funny manner So I think I think when said he sent me one but it never showed up

So it must be lost in the vast state of New York that it is Taking so long to get across the giant state of New York. Absolutely You get that mail call. I got an I actually I'm gonna check the IG poll real quick I threw that up today for shits and giggles Who likes your content the most? Chris damager Chad or Gary and I think Gary was was pulling away So I don't know if anyone has any thoughts on that their personal opinions on who they think they see in their their inbox the most I had to definitely Gary and I fucking love you for it buddy.

Thank you. I do get a lot of gear. I mean, I'm not saying that Gary's not there. I just, I can't, I still don't know if, if you look at it as a communicative effect of, like Chris Damager has been liking my shit for like four years every single day, like 80% of what I post.

And then Chad has probably been at that same ratio for the past two years and then Gary came on maybe the last six months to a year or so and he likes as much or more as they do I just don't feel that he's in my heart Gary you haven't earned it yet because you haven't put in enough time son but technically if you went the last six months and did a poll you probably are the winner but for me I got to I got to give it to, I don't know, going to give it to Damager, probably for my personal, you know, Chris has been a very loyal friend over the years and likes it damn near everything I post.

I thought that was funny. And obviously, I don't think anyone voted for this, just maybe get others, because no one will like your shit more than crew, not even your wife. Yeah, my wife doesn't like any of my. Exactly. So that is about that. Did we touch on the YouTube video at all that came out today?

I saw it. Jack's home gym tour? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was pretty, that was a micro home gym tour so we can keep a micro review on it. I mean, I guess, I mean, Tanner explicitly said multiple times, like, you know, this isn't really where he trains, this isn't really how I would set it up if I was, it, it, it Tanner explicitly said multiple times, like, you know, this isn't really where he trains.

This isn't really how I would set it up. If I was training here, it's solely for Jack, blah, blah, blah. I was like, I get it. I think there'd be a lot better, different stuff you could do, but I think he had the, I think, I think they got the Hansa rec for free or got a really good deal on it. So it's like, he already had a combo rec. So it's not like you had to go buy something or anything. Like I would have put a small power rack or or you know squat tanner's favorite squat stands

of some sort in there but you know the combo rack works I guess. I would move that blue chair and put the weight tree there. That's what I would do a weight tree of some sort but yeah because that chair literally was a drink holder like it was a drink spotter for that entire video. Feel like we don't need that chair and you could just put your weight tree there. But that was just me. The one thing I would comment on is you could tell, you know, he was keeping it such a modest gym. And I think the real reason Tanner kept the home gym so modest is he's, you know,

he can feel Jack catching up to him and he doesn doesn't want Jack to you know whoop him at that 40-yard dash What it would? I think he's trying to you know keep that Jack down a little bit more. I didn't realize Tanner was here Broke me good stuff all right, So yeah. So, you know, once, once, once, uh, once once Tanner really wants to support Jack and his, his athletic journey, maybe, maybe that home gym will expand a little bit. But no, I thought it was, it was always good content. I always like to see, you know, anything they do is pretty well. So that wraps up the majority of our general topics. Uh, Tommy, is there anything we missed

in the powerlifting world or Instagram or in the lifting community that you caught that we didn't touch base on, bud, before we move on? Honestly, no, at least not to my knowledge. I really try not to pay attention to it as much as possible these days. Find myself being a little bit happier that way. I did not be on my phone as much. I feel that.

Alright, then do you have a sponsor read for us? You want to hit us with for Mastinomics? Uh, sure. Um, well. Oh, shoot. I left. I had, I had it written out, but I left. I must left a.

Well. Do it live. Do it live. Fuck it. We'll do it live. Um, you know, I'm pretty well it'll be easy for you. Oh, yeah. I mean, if you have if you're ever looking for a podcast, you're not getting you know, investment advice or dating advice. Mastinomics podcast is the way to go. You get two good guys out of the, out of the good old Dakota planes represent the Midwest and even Ohio. So you're looking for quality, quality shirts, quality shorts, especially the shorts and the drink spot or safety. Cause you can never ever be lacking on your sit on a Jesus.

I can't talk tonight. Uh, drinks, drink safety. Head on over to Mastodon mix podcast you can sign up for the to the supporting membership or just come over and have a silly goose tie. I dig it. I dig it. We can make that work.

If anybody knows anything about safety it's our guests. Let's get them on the horn. Absolutely. So it's we really do have a bunch of people we got to kick out this chat. We've never had a group, we've never had more than one comment. And I've got like 30 fucking comments on the side of my computer right now that I'm trying to like, I don't know how they do it. Like we've, when they actually somewhat keeping up on the discord comments while

recording and like not getting completely distracted because I just like went down a rabbit hole trying to catch up on like seven of Tanner's messages. And that used to be one of my favorite things was to try and make them break during recording. And that's when you're in the shoes on the shoes on this fucking foot. It's not as much fun. God damn it. Yep.

Yeah. You get what you put out, right? Yep. Um, all right. Big Tommy, is that you? It is. It is indeed. Hey, welcome to unpaid and underrated.

It's like you've been here the whole time. For 30 minutes or so, it seems like. So let's let's jump into your Mastinomics journey first. That's kind of where we start with people. What brought you to Mastinomics? Um, so it's a funny story. Um, when I first started powerlifting,

I met a kid at the University of Wisconsin, Eau Claire at the meet that I did. And he made a massonomics versus of me versus a Tommy go. And I asked him, what the hell is this? This is hilarious. He goes, oh, it's massonomics. And I think that was in 2017 or 18. And yeah, I've been following ever since.

And what's really funny is I didn't even know they had a podcast until like 2019, 2020. Yep. That's how it starts. And yeah, I've been following ever since. And what's really funny is I didn't even know they had a podcast until like 2019, 2020. Yep. That's how it starts. Yeah. I literally just thought they were an Instagram meme account. I enjoyed it and just laughed at it.

You know, it's like, um, I think Joe Sullivan said it best. You look at something, you see it, you kind of snort and you're like, Oh, that was funny. So, yeah, that's been my masternomics journey. OK, so that was quite some time ago. Where are you in the Hall of Fame? I am. I think this is this will be my 14th achievement.

Yes. Hey, dope. And by the time we get a log jam at 14. By the time a lift hardly live easy comes around, I should have a jacket. So that's awesome. Do you board that? Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. It should be pretty, pretty fun. So can't wait for you to put Big Jim's jacket on

like or whatever it was. Yeah. So I feel like I saw you pretty recently and did you cut your hair? Yeah, I cut about 18 months of commitment off my head about three weeks ago. So yeah, long time coming. And I instantly felt relief the second my barber like just took the razor to it. So I feel that. You don't know when I literally when I have like three weeks of hair growth and I cut it down to this, I'm like, oh, it's such it is literal therapy for me to like go from having like a chia pet on my head to fucking like being bald again.

It makes me so happy. I don't I don't go past three days now. The moment I can start to feel hair, I'm just like, fuck off me. Yeah, I don't like, fuck off me. Yeah, I don't have your sexy hairline. So like I could obviously couldn't get through that. Yeah. Yeah. I broke my family curse. Clark Kent over here. Yeah, but I always joked that my biggest goal in life was to beat my dad with

with the hairline. My dad started going bald at like twenty eight, twenty nine. And I just recently turned 30. Nice. Got a full head of hair. And yeah, that's one thing I got on him in life so far. Nice. Isn't, isn't your hair genetics, your, your mom's, like males on your mom's side though, right? Yeah. I honestly don't know if that's like a hundred percent true

or not. But it is at least something I was like, yeah, I was told my whole adult my my whole childhood. Yeah, like, you know, you hear one or one story or the other. And it's like, what do you believe? But my grandpa, my dad, my mom's side is also bald, just like my grandpa, my dad's side was so but all my uncles have a full head of hair. It's weird. So maybe I just got lucky. My dad had a head full of hair, but my grandpa on my mom's side didn't. So like anecdotal evidence would show I got his hairline. It started running away from me. My hair ran away from my face at starting at like 22. That's when it just started like running.

And then I just held onto it for so so long and I think like even Keith commented the other day when I was just like god shaving my head was such a smart idea Keith was like oh yeah you did a picture where it was like yeah you you had you had the big Ryan haircut where it was just like you know just the sides yeah well no I still had hair here oh that was about it I could still I could still rock a decent like mohawk and I've thought about it, but at the same time, I don't want hair on my head. That sounds like work. As Tommy can attest. Yeah, if if the listeners want to see your, you know, full head of hair, Tommy,

where are they going to find you on Instagram, buddy? You're going to find me at Tommy underscore Schneider 22. Are you sure it wouldn't? That would throw me off. So it's it's it's not Tommy. You're gonna hit us with the Tommy, Tommy underscore D or was it Tomahawk D whatever that's Mr. Ohawk. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. So you're out there in Minnesota is that is that been home forever? Or is that just home now or it's been home for all 30

years of my life. Nice. I thought about moving a few, few years ago, but here we are still so. If I was in Minnesota, I probably wouldn't leave Minnesota. I've enjoyed every minute I've been in there. Minnesota, Minnesota is a good time if you like doing outdoorsy stuff. So I guess I've only been there for the airport so far. I'll drive through it this year, though, because we're flying in it. I've flown into MSP multiple times, but I've never driven in or out of MSP. It's always been a flight, but we're driving out of driving out of MSP this year.

So I'll catch some bit of Minnesota before we hit the border. Our wonderful countryside. There's a there's a great town in between, I think. I don't want to, I can't remember the name of it. Might start with a W, but that place is fucking gorgeous. Or I might be thinking of Madison, Wisconsin. What I have gone through- Are you literally talking about fucking Wisconsin again?

What I have gone through Wisconsin to go to South Dakota. Yes, we've talked about your journey through Madison, Wisconsin so many times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like four separate times. Madison, Wisconsin is great, but also so is Minnesota. College town. OK. Madison's really nice.

I like Milwaukee a little bit better, personally. So you must have a pretty low supporting membership number. I'm going to guess that it's, well, I guess you tell us. Because if you joined the time you started listening to the podcast, that'd be one thing. But if you joined more recently, you could be way off. So what is I joined in 2022. So, um, Hi, hate me for this too, but I did 100. Now you're good. I ballpark it. I would 2022 I was 2021. I think so. Yeah. 22 I was 20 21 I think so yeah you. Let's say you're in the the mid to mid to upper hundreds probably yeah.

Yeah I'm I'm 47 and I joined in August of 2021. Maybe I have a guess I'm probably around like 100 120 something like that. Well it's it's yeah so an episode or you know sport remember 100 ish. Yeah there we go for me Well, I'm gonna hit you with a little game here because it'll segue into a fair amount of conversation So you familiar with least fun most fun I'm gonna give you a topic and then you can you know You can ramble about it as much as you want but at the end of the day I want a

Stern answer of the least fun thing about it and the most fun thing about it and then we can have you know a bunch of dialogue in between but uh These fun most fun it and the most fun thing about it. And then we can have, you know, a bunch of dialogue in between. But least fun, most fun competing in the USAPL. Oh, boy. Oh, God. OK, this should tie into Minnesota, too. OK, so I've I've only ever competed USAP PL and USA PL has, it's always done right by me in terms of like enjoying the meats and like meat production minus maybe one meat, but neither here nor there.

So I'd have to say it's most fun just because like it's all that I know. But I will say like from watching like lift hardly live easy or going to the showdown meet down in Kansas City a couple of years ago, it's like, damn, these, you know, some of these untested meets are just, you know, meets like that are they look like a lot of fun and they just look like. I remember there was a there was an analogy with it where it's like USAPL's NASCAR and the USPA is a formula one. And that's like, so it's like, I would say that's completely the other way around, but

yeah, I get where you're going with that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how to properly like put into words, but I'd say competing in the USAPL probably most fun at this point. But who knows? What's the- Making my hard leave easy to boot and- So, so maybe I might have butchered explaining. So least

fun, most fun. Like, I need like a one specific thing that is the the best thing about USAPL and then one thing that is the worst thing about USAPL. Sorry. Oh, oh, jeez. It's not it's not either other- Either or? Okay. No, it's not that. Oh, I misinterpreted.. There are. OK, no, it's not that I misinterpreted. That's my bad. My bad, buddy.

All right. So most fun with USAPL. Well, one, since I've been competing in it for so long, whenever I go to a meet, I see a lot of people that I've met throughout the years of competing. And some of them, you know, they live in different parts of Minnesota. Some can live up in Duluth, some can live down in like Marshall, Minnesota. So they could be four to five hours away from me. So with most things like strength sport related, I'd say the funnest part about is being able to meet, meet new people or meet up with people that you've been

friends with for years and you've grown within the sport and least fun. Sometimes I feel like the USA PL can just have rules for the sake of having rules and it can be really sticklerish with it. And it's just at that point I'm like, well, that's kind of dumb. I'll follow it. But it's still kind of dumb. Yeah.

So did losing the IPF affiliation affect your, you know, commitment or desire to be in USAPL whatsoever? Absolutely not. I didn't think it did. And it really doesn't for like 98% or 99.7% of lifters because no one cares. Like less than a percentage of people are going to go across the pond to compete at fucking Worlds.

So it's just- Like go to Belarus to lift weights. Yeah, so it's not really that important. So yeah, it's just like go to Belarus to lift weights. Yeah. So it's not really that important in Belarus. The weights lift you. You know, yeah, you as a PL is all that you know, but lifting and drinking is all that I know. So at the lift hard, live easy, are you competing or are you safe?

I will. I will be making my non-USA appeal debut. Lift hardly of easy classic. Hell, yeah. Love it. I wanted to do it last year, but I was debating doing nationals for the USAPL. And I'm like, well, do I really want to spend this much money to go to Utah? And I'm like, no. Then by at that point, like I'll just spot load. Yeah. Do they have that like rule where you can't compete anywhere else?

No, no. You say, OK, yeah. You say peel after they left the IPF and they have like next. They have no affiliation with it. It's not like if I competed in a untested fed, I get banned from competing in powerlifting America or America over. But you say, yeah, doesn't. OK, I was just wondering, I I find it hard to track all of these feds because, you know,

the one thing powerlifting needs is more feds. Yeah. There's a couple. Oh yeah. Who else on your crew is competing? I know a handful of guys, I know Nas was. Are you going to leave enough guys not competing to actually help spot and load? I think it's just me and Big Nas at this point.

I'm not sure. I know Ronnie or Big Diet Tanner, he was looking at doing this program, but he didn't get in. So I loved that. You guys have way more nicknames than any of us. It's hilarious. There's like three or four you can rep, you can rip off at any time with any of us. It's hilarious So obviously

We've been dodging it this whole time And you know Tanner wants to make sure we ask and I'm sure Nate just joined us. He wants us to ask What was your reaction to me one of the funniest Mastinomics moments of the past like year was when Mr. Oh'Hawk, Tommy DeFe said, Tommy Schneider is Rob Schneider, and it broke Tanner to the point that he was gasping for air. And I know that I also broke pretty hard on that one. I corp very hard on that. What was your reaction to that? And how do you feel about being called the stapler?

I haven't laughed that hard at something in such a long time. I was actually at work. Big Jake Christensen and I, we worked together and I was putting together a palette. And I just all of a sudden hear, you know, Tanner break with the wheeze and you know, Tommy sitting there with the who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who,

who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who

who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, I gotta say the like I I've been like getting the Rob Schneider jokes majority of my life actually. But this is the funniest it's ever been. And I absolutely love it. I love that it's kind of like an almost unknown thing, but like its own meme within the Mastinomics lore. So I couldn't be happier with it. I think it's awesome. It's great. It was really funny. Now. I hear you're a deck builder. Oh, yeah. So we're where I work. We build a bunch of aluminum decking that you see on a bunch of the apartment complexes that are coming up and around cities, like suburbs, all of those. So I help run the production line

and maintain the flow of material to and from like paint and to our prep team. So and and your forklift certified. I am indeed. I got 100 percent on my retake. So so do you ever. Do you ever say to yourself as you're climbing into a forklift, Tommy Schneider is a forklift. Like, do you ever make that joke to yourself as you're climbing into a forklift Tommy Schneider is a forklift

like do you ever make that joke to yourself when you're doing something? Yeah, I do. I would too. Like I absolutely would. Sit there giggling to yourself. When did that episode come out? Like that had to be like early 2000s or my way off. Oh, I think it was right after or was right before they went to the Arnold

because I remember not. Sorry, no, like the South Park episode. Oh, yeah. Sorry. No, yeah, no, no, no. I got episode like 6000. Like, who knows that kind of thing? But I mean, like, yeah, it had to have been. I think it was early 2000. It was either 2002 or 2003.

I think that's when they just killed off Kenny like permanently for the season. And then he just magically comes back at the end. So. Oh, that was funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was thinking about that. Do you guys remember the movie Beerfest? Yes. Right. Do you remember? Do you remember boot when Farva Fest? Yes. Right. Do you remember? Do you remember

when Farva's character, the Farva, he's from Farva. He's Keaton. Yeah, he's Farva from Super Troopers. He's Heffernan is his real name. His character dies and then comes back as a twin and asks to be called his regular name. I made so many TikTok jokes about that where I was just like, that's what TikTok did. I was like, I'd appreciate it if you would also call me. Anyway. So many people's videos just didn't age well because they made like a, all right, like mocking TikTok because it was gone forever and it literally was back like two hours later. So I'm like, people wasted so much time.

Oh yeah. And they like made confessions about how that didn't age well. Yeah, it was like the family episode, like right before they die. And she's like, Errol Lois goes, Peter, do you not want to be here with us? He's like, well, I do. I love you. I just hate the kids. And then it's like April Fool's. So many fucking dummy influencers did that where they were just like, I don't actually care about this kind of stuff.

I was just doing it for likes. And then TikTok was back and they were like, Oh, like high followers. I made a mistake anyway. On that vein, I actually just saw a clip from Family Guy where they're all like in the it's the one where the burglars come into their house and they all go in like the same panic and they're about to drown and Peter admit his confession is he didn't like the godfather yeah and they're all just like how how yeah that's every conversation with Keith about movies by the way yeah right um whoa who calls you little calves who wants to fight

Um. Whoa, who calls you little calves? Who wants to fight? I saw that. That could be anyone. I am not less than the calf department at all. Don't you have like an over 600 pound squat like. Yeah, it makes no sense. I'm building like a real put knee sleeves on though.

Are you in like a medium knee sleeve? Oh, no, I actually were. I wear a threel on the pioneer sleeves Those run tiny though, too. Yeah, so that's a large in most people. Yeah, it's like a large Good deal I just put I actually just tried on a pair of 2xl ergos from inser and those things were falling down my leg so Yeah, I'm like, oh, this is this is stupid. So So what's your what is your lifting history look like as far as we obviously know you've been powerlifting for a while But uh, you know, you'd lived in high school to live for sports

You know what led you to your first meet and did you Jim bro it out for a while? I? heard specifically that you wanted to be a Mean, this also might be someone busting your balls, but uh, was there a time you wanted to be a gym I mean, this also might be someone busting your balls, but was there a time you wanted to be a gym shark, pretty boy, but ended up in our thing? Yeah, the college days, but no, I started lifting when I was 13. So I've been lifting for 17 years. I just started at a local gym in Hastings, my hometown,

and kind of just, you know, dicked around with it for a couple of years, lifted for football and baseball. But honestly, I really just bench pressed in high school. And here's one, which is funny, because now it's like my worst lift. But yeah, you know, then I went to college and, you know, I wanted to be, you know, Jim Sharp, pretty, as I put it, but, you know, it did say that. Okay. And I, I got into powerlifting because my sister, my sister competed, her husband competing since about 2013, 2014. So her and her husband, they pay, they played a big influence in me getting into powerlifting because through

them, you know, just looking things up, I came across like Pete Rubish, Ben Pollock, Dan Green, obviously. So those were like, that was kind of my introduction to powerlifting. And I didn't really jump into it until I was about 23. So. And then as far as the Minnesota Department of Lifter Safety, that obviously came once you kind of, cause you're, how many of you guys actually live like, cause you train in Jake's garage gym and I've seen there's up to Jesus,

is there seven, eight, nine, 10, 12 of you there at a time or sometimes? Sometimes I don't, I usually just train at like a regular gym. Um, I just cause scheduling sometimes doesn't line up for me to make it to Jake's house. I live about minutes from them. So how far? Um, but yeah, I think there's, there's probably about 10 guys that are the set, like it seems that are kind of like set and then like there's reserves or people that work their way in or however that happens. I don't know. I don't,

I'm not involved in the inner workings of that. I just get asked if I want to show up and help out and if it works, I'll say, yeah, sure. Sweet. Good deal. Um, Okay. So, uh, least fun, most fun. Um, circus barbecue sauce in your gym bag. Yeah. Is that broke yet? Literally. I did. Yeah. Tell everyone the story there.

Cause what is a, did you say that in discord or where he was on the mass nomics podcast? Oh yeah. Yeah. You told him on the call-in episode that you left it in your fucking gym bag for like, yeah, your buddy got you a chalk or something out of your bag. And he was like, why the fuck are you? Why is that? Why do you have wing sauce in your bag? Dumbass. Like, yeah, your buddy got you a chalk or something out of your bag. And he was like, why the fuck are you? Why is that? Why do you have wing sauce in your bag? Dumbass like, uh, that's right. Oh, no, somewhere.

Oh, the most fun about the circus wing sauce was obviously going to crew falls and winning it so it can be in my gym bag. But, um, I guess I guess the most fun part about it is the memory of it. When I look at it, which it's not in my gym bag anymore. I took it out. I took it out. Because the least fun part of it was when I realized it was still in there, it's like,

oh, this could break and I could have barbecue sauce all over my lifting equipment and that would not be a good time. Or counterpoint the best time. Some people like to use baby powder for their dead lifts. Maybe we all start using barbecue sauce. That would be interesting. That would be disgusting, Keith. That would be the smell alone. At least especially in the ice arena the hot arena. Oh god that would have been terrible. Well done you got me there. That's actually a good episode title to hot arena.

It's good shit. How was that like so it was bad enough competing. Just being there all day spot and loading your you work harder than anybody else like so you're putting in a fucking ten hour day of moving shit. Yeah i know it was like basically topless the whole fucking time i know you don't think you did that. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I've been at for a meet, that would have been at the Twin Cities Open Meet in 2019 here in Minnesota. That was terrible. Oh, it was awful. It was inside? Yeah, they didn't have air conditioning, nothing.

It was fucking terrible. I didn't think anyone could top that. That's wild. Yeah. The ODI Serena. What was nice about it is the fact that we had such a especially the first year we had such a big group of people that wanted to come out and do the meet and have fun that we could cycle through everybody, you know?

So it's like, oh, hey, you need a break? Yeah, sure. If you could pop in for me on this, that'd be awesome. So we kept each other cool that way. But it was I'd give it like a eight out Like probably nine out of ten experience of how hot it was Good deal. So either way this year well competing you're gonna be excited about the temperature control then because Yeah, that's gonna just I'm excited about that for sure Also one thing that definitely did help with the ice arena. It's also kind of a funny story

My buddy area and I were sitting in the chairs after we took a break and I'm like, you know a beer sounds really fricking good right now. And he goes- There's a lot of that going around. And I said, well, I don't think Tanner and Tommy or Dave would appreciate if we're drinking while we're spotting and loading.

And then Tanner and Tommy walked by with a beer and I'm like, fuck it. Because lifting and drinking is all that we know. Exactly. That's nice. That is pretty funny. My favorite thing right here that I see under your hobbies is, I mean, obviously it's your buddies busting your chops again, but

fearing women is listed as one of your favorite hobbies, my friend. And there are multiple comments throughout the you know you're you're no not necessarily a fear but there's a women do be scary yeah no or that has to be no or no or and we also see that um you have a was a pro a proclivity towards emo and goth girls. Who? Who doesn't relax? Relax over there. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm just saying it's a thing.

And that's not even 100% true. It's just the memes are funny and I share it with the boys all the time. I mean, you are the memes. You are the memes that you share. This goes in levels, right? Like there's like there's muscle mommies, got muscle mommies and then there's Rhea Ripley who who's like the boss of all the goth mommies oh she's so much fun to watch I'm a big pro wrestling fan so oh we'll get to that oh hell yeah brother oh don't

worry it's our it's the favorite thing favorite thing of the unpaid and underrated audience is they love how much we talk about wrestling. Did you see the comment that Big Jeff had made in one of our private servers? I think I shared it on Instagram. He said, zero weeks without chicken parm talk. Chicken parm's becoming the new wrestling. I was like, that had me fucking rolling when I read that. zero weeks without chicken parm talk chicken parms becoming the new wrestling. That had me fucking rolling when I read that I was like you fucker.

That was great. Counterpoint or side note. I'm fucking so mad about how much glitter fell out of that card right now. Like my socks are covered in it. Brief story. I might've shared this before. I did a social media break a while ago and it was about the time that the social media glitter beards got really popular and people just kept sending me glitter beards. Like you should do glitter in your beard,

it's Christmas. You should do glitter in your beard, it's Christmas. And I said eventually, I was just like, fuck you, I'm not doing that. But if you really want me to do it, you will raise $500 for my charity. Because at the time I was on on the board for a local charity that fed kids, these fuckers raised $500 in like an hour. Oh, yeah. And then I was like, OK, you pricks. I was like, double it and I'll wear an elf costume. Oh no 24 hours. Okay We ended up getting like two thousand dollars We were able to actually support an entire new school where what we did is we used to give

Backpacks of food to kids to take home on the weekends Because they were getting fed at school, but then Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, these kids just didn't have food. So we would send like backpacks. And so we were able to get a whole new school in the neighborhood I grew up in. I'll tell you, we found glitter on my cat. Three years later, like when we put her down, there was still glitter in her fur. I fucking hate glitter so Quinn Thanks

Told my wife if a letter ever does show up from someone named Quinn Maybe but then it still would like my cat's lives are more important to me. It's this like it's the big plastic glitter. So it's not like right to go in my cat's mouth and for it to fucking die. No, thank you. My cats don't eat anything. My cats would eat anything that they could fucking get their tongues on. Anyway, sorry. Sorry. That was a tangent.

I'm just stepping. I'm stepping in glitter and I'm mad about it. Like, it's understandable. How did you, uh, did you ever find your ID that you lost in the middle of the airport in Orlando and how that had to be a shitty experience? Oh, that was, uh, that was a gut gut punch. Like that was not a good time.

I was, I was freaking out. I'm like, Oh my God, they're not going to let me get on the plane now. And I don't know why I'm like, oh my god, they're not gonna let me get on the plane now and I don't know why I thought that but Yeah, I literally went through like almost all the way back to uh, I went all the way back to TSA So you got what so to start up you do did get through TSA and then you lost your license. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah happen was yeah, that's better than losing it before TSA and missing. Yeah. Yeah So that was the that was actually the second time I've ever flown. Well, first time full, like, you know, back and forth,

but whatever. But no, when I took all my stuff out of my pockets and I put it in the bins, it must've just fell out of my wallet. And I got it back like three or four weeks later. I just ran and I'm like, okay, that's cool. Oh, they just mailed it to you, OK, that's all that is. So I didn't know that to you.

Yeah, I don't I don't know. But I was I that was a 10 out of 10 bad time, bad, like not not fun. Yeah, that's I had it was I want to say it was I was going it was either I know it was either Crew Falls or home gym, gone or something. It was my first trip alone. So I was like in line at TSA, and I had my license ready to go to show him, and then I kinda get distracted

because the fucking TSA line was a half hour wait, basically, and then when I was getting closer, realized I didn't have my license. All I had was my phone and everything, nothing else. So I fucking, and I'm like, and I knew I had my license already, so I was freaking out because I was calling my wife, and I was like, see if it's,

I knew in the back of my head, I know it's not at the house, I know it's not in the car, because I fucking had it in my hand a second ago, and then so I'm freaking out. I didn't wanna get out of line like, see if it's like, I knew in the back of my head, like I know it's not at the house, I know it's not in the car, because I fucking had it in my hand a second ago. And then, so I'm like freaking out. I didn't want to get out of line because I'm going to lose my spot. And then like, literally within like nine,

within a minute of this, like I basically like had a huge panic attack for like a minute long. And then like a lady, like two or three people behind me was like, sir, is this yours? And just handed me my fucking license. So I had obviously dropped it somewhere in line and like she found it and caught up to me.

I was like, fucking thank you so much. So yeah. OK, rookie mistake. Yeah. I think my dad told me to have like a printed copy of it, like make a like a photocopy of it or whatever, just like backup in case. And I'm like, I don't know if that'll work, but whatever. And I totally ignored him.

And yeah. Well, I would have like that would have been a lot more like reassuring if I had like something like that, a second, second form of ID, I don't know. What's so attractive about archery? Oh, the staples. Staple the. What I. I don't know, I've just always found that

I have just always found it to be like really cool and interesting. I like the I think this also kind of goes back to with lifting and why I enjoy it so much is because it's very, very individual, like, you know, it's just something that you get better at by practicing and very, very few times does someone else like have like a big impact on why you can get better. I guess I just like to find like skills that I can learn myself or get better at through repetition. So I guess that would be why. No, I get it. I actually was one of those things I enjoyed earlier in my years, but never

pursued because like, God damn, it's expensive. Yeah. Bunch of the guys I work with are all outdoorsmen, and they've told me numerous times, go here, go there to get a boat set up and you'll be good to go. But I just haven't pulled the trigger yet. So outdoorsmen are survivalists because there's a difference. Oh, got it.

One of them, I don't know what he rides the line between both like he like he hunts any and everything and he'll go out like he go. He'll leave like for two weeks a year just to go out to Montana and hunt, hunt mule deer and all that stuff. So he's got a good time with that. But yeah, I'd say it's more more just outdoorsman than survivalists that I work with. All right. I mean, Keith is clearly reading through the notes, so I'm going to go ahead and keep asking random questions.

No, I'm ready. I'm ready to go. I got a. I got I got one specifically. Yeah. What's your problem with Taylor Swift? I used to work at Menards and I heard Shake It Off more times over that damn Yeah, that would do it. Yep. And it just drove me batshit. Like, because that's like when she like kind of was, I think that was like her first big pop hit when she went from country to pop.

And it was that or Bad Blood. There was just a bunch of different of her songs that just blew up. And I heard them on repeat all the time working at M&R's. So it's nothing personal. It's just PTSD. No, kind of both. But yeah, I just, you know, like is what it is. I don't, I don't really like her music to begin with. So just having to hear it on constant repeat like Drova wedge, I guess it created bad blood That's your episode title Keith Because that's a Taylor Swift song get it. No Unless it was a song she made 20 years ago. I wouldn't know the name of it because I don't follow her Explanation 20 years ago, I wouldn't know the name of it because I don't follow her. He said it in his explanation.

Probably. What he quoted bad blood. I don't know. Fuck. Am I supposed to know that that's what it meant? Well, Taylor Swift, very un. All right. OK. You just lost Big Jess. That's all right. She's already she's flipping everybody off.

So why not me? She I was just I had to send her that meme that I made of Her doing the double bird and saying like big Matt exists and then that's her reaction and she was like I was I thought I offended her Matt because like they didn't react to it on discord Nice, you know and then she was I was talking to her about something else completely on discord or on Instagram I was like did you ever see that and she's like no my notifications are all fucked up And I sent it to her. She just started rolling. I was like, okay cool Got a kick out of that. So nonetheless moving on from that

You're familiar with FMK give you a couple of topics and you'll hit us with which one you want to fuck marry and kill Oh, yeah, so I've got two I'm gonna do one and I'll probably circle back into another one I got two that I really wanted to do so FMK Harry Potter movies Harry Potter books Harry Potter video games Okay, so the easy kill in that is the video games because I never played them I figured it would be but I really just

wanted it between the top two I never played them. I figured it would be but I really just wanted it between the top two Marry the books fuck the movies. I Love reading so it's fair Much books to movies. I figured that'd be a quick. I figured that'd be a quick one So I'm gonna hit you with one more little a little more fitness he related. It was submitted from somebody I'm gonna switch it up to put a little different twist on it. So FMK, the ER combo rack, the Texas strength system combo rack, and the rogue combo rack. Oh, okay. The other two submitted were Elite FTS and Ghost, but I figured you see those less often than the other two that I threw in there.

I think the reason why EliteFTS and Ghost were is because up here in Minnesota, you know the Los Campiones that we were at in Screw Falls? Those are primarily like the combo racks you're going to see there. Minus a couple will have the Rogue. Can you go through it one more time? I lost my train of thought. Uh, well, if those are the ones you're going to be more familiar with, then I'll keep it the way it was. So let's go back to the original one as it was listed then.

So E.R. elite FTS ghost. Oh, if you're more familiar, if you're more familiar with those three, you'll get a better answer than I've lifted up all of them. But I'll do the TSS and the rogue one. I got a funnier story with those three, I'll get a better answer than I've listed up all of them. But I'll do the TSS and the rogue one. I got a funnier story with those. All right. That works. Those are the ones I'm those ones I'm personally more familiar with. So I'm glad we're going to go with those.

So I would kill the TSS rack because I almost out on bench on it. OK, which is otherwise. Yeah, it's against it. It's a great rack. But I just the rock I'll probably end up buying if I ever get one because it's one of the few that's you can actually bolt to the ground. And if I put one in my basement, I'm going to bolt it to the ground. Right. But for me, like I almost bombed out on bench on it and just bad memories.

So that's true. I will. I'll fuck the rogue rack because I like the bench pad on that one. Yeah, you're going to bench. I can definitely bench ten more pounds on that than any other fucking combo like like easy Since I have freaking orangutan arms. I'll take any advantage. I can get on bench. So Then I would marry the marry the ER rack just because it's it's just tried true and consistent. I really like, I would have bought an ER rack a long time ago if I had a way to like mount it to the ground without like making an extra bracket or some shit.

Like if it just had a little flange off the side, I could tap on it to the ground, I would have bought it already. Because it is, I like how easy the face savers move up and down. There's like zero effort to them. It's just a nice, easy to use rack. Very much on the lightweight side. So as a spotter and loader, does it suck work? easy to use rack very much on the

far forward but like it has to make a difference when someone's racking six seven hundred pounds on the ER it has to move a lot more than if they're doing it on the fucking a rogue wreck. It's a lot. It seems like it's more sketchy, but, you know, you can. I've never had like, you know, from squatting in it myself and like spotting and loading, it might seem like it's a little more sketchy. But honestly, like you don't really think about it too much because you're like

when you're spotting and loading, it's like, OK, he's in. What's the next next weight on the bar? So like. It's not like for me, at least, I don't know if like Jake Nas or Ronnie would have a different opinion on that, so. That diet, Tanner, for anyone who's not familiar with who who who Ronnie is. That that was my favorite thing I saw in the discord after the first lift hardly live easy. Yeah. And I think that Keith eating a little crow, not realizing

he was in the discord was probably the funniest thing because he thought he was like being all subtle and subterfuge. And he was like, look at this diet tater. And the guy fucking responded. And I guess he's fucking handled to change like in this. I wish I had been in the room when he responded and saw the message and was like, Oh, no. It would be like if that if that guy that looked like one of the Davids was in the discord and we didn't know it and like, like just how you would die.

He is. He's British David. He is. I think we were watching that Airbnb when we saw that we all were we're all pretty tuned up at that point. We saw that it was, we were rolling with laughter. It was a good time. That was really happy. That was such, I don't know. That was just been a blast. I'm glad you guys, cause you guys have known, I mean, assuming cause you guys did, did a lot of spotting loading for Dave first, right? Or did you guys know Tanner? I'm trying to remember where the connection to get you guys out there was.

Um, I think what happened was is Ronnie or Diet Tanner talked to regular Tanner at the ARP and mentioned that they were the spotter and loader crew for the USAPL meet that was happening. Oh, yeah. I don't remember if Tanner offered to let their ask the spot and load lift hard, leave easy, or if Ronnie asked or a volunteer to do it or offered to, I don't know. Either way, that's still pretty cool. I have a quick FMK do it. Spotting and loading bench squat and deadlift.

That's a good one. Kill bench because it's god awfully boring. Okay, but from a like lifter perspective, it's also god awful boring. Oh, yeah. It's the fucking worst part of powerlifting. The worst even still would be refing it. So having to ref bench, if I had never had to ref a bench session again, I would die happy. Probably Mary deadlift just because it's, it doesn't seem like it's as much work. But it's, you know, it's a little bit less work. And then

I'd probably fuck squat just because there's a little bit less work. And then I'd probably fuck squat just because. There's a little bit of danger with it, I guess. I don't know. Someone drops a bar or something. Did you see that one video where the guy dropped the bar off his back and the fuckers zirkered it and it was like 500 pounds. And you're just like, first of all, fuck that lifter for doing that. Like you don't do you walk off real nonchalantly right yeah like like yeah got you see you buddy this other guy's like holding this 500 pound

yeah yeah that'd be interesting I've always were you were you spotting and loading this year when the kid fucking dumps a bar that with like 600 pounds on it or some shit or 500 pounds at lift hardly yeah yeah yeah so that that that one pissed me off a lot when that happened. Yeah, I was I was side spotting on that. Yeah. And what I remember from that is I went back and rewatched it on the live stream because the other platform I get didn't really know. So I think I showed one of the guys that was on the other platform.

I think it was Ronnie. I'm not sure. But, you know, you can't really hear too much on the live stream for spotting for the meter spotting and loading. But you very clearly hear me yell, hey, through when I catch the when we catch the weight, like, what are you doing? Just don't fucking get out from under your fuck. But we also I think it's one of those things. And I kind of want to make sure that the next time I'm asked to MC a

powerlifting competition, which I think will come up pretty soon, is that's going to be one of the things I think that needs to go in the rules conversation. Because I don't think I've ever been told, don't dump your squad. I don't think I've ever heard that. Maybe it's just me then. It's usually stay with the bar. Like don't, you know, don't, don't leave your spotter and loaders hanging. So that just might be one of those things where you're just like, by the way, like, and also that should come with a ban or a penalty or something. Like it's the meat directors discretion to kick them out. He should have probably been kicked out of the meat boy. Yeah, like that Is he because that was a second right he you had to spot and load of hers third

Which I think he may or may not have made I don't remember. I think it was maybe was it was the last lift Yeah, but maybe Yeah, I might be mistaken on there, but I know he didn't kicked out of the meat because I know we've been stood dead lifted So well either way to all the meat directors listen Yeah, somebody does that to your spotters and loaders fucking walk them out And make sure you make that clear in the rule book in your iron podium or whatever Federation rule book like You put people in danger you're out son. Yeah, it's a good way to fucking blow a bicep must tendin. Yep, absolutely Well that led to that led some mention in Congress. Have you had more?

lifting related injury spotting and loading or lifting um, I Think the worst thing I've ever had from spotting and loading was actually at lift hard live easy You know how there's that pin on the ghost rack I like jammed my thumb in it when I was trying to push the, push the rack out. Cause I had a rack in, definitely messed myself up more lifting than I have spot. For sure. That's, that's good. At least that's how it should be. Like I, it's a dangerous thing to do. So I'm glad I'm getting too fucked up spotting and

loading. I have a very minimal experience doing it and it was fucking miserable. And I did it at a, at a fucking, I don't remember, where they use 100 pound plates so then I had to start fucking using hundos on all the deadlifts and I was like this is fucking annoying. I think these are so much worse than 45s. I love- And they lost the shittiest collars too. I used my hundos for my deadlift yesterday and I left them on and I never leave my rack.

I was just like I'm so tired I don't want to unwrap these hundreds like this is ridiculous yeah but it was more convenient instead of loading multiple 45s but then by the time I was exhausted with my AMRAPs or whatever I was doing I was like no I'm not fucking doing that yeah don't use hundreds no they suck yeah that's I want to do a Mount Rushmore. Sure. Okay, Mount Rushmore. The one we're not going to talk about. Yeah, don't do that. You can ask, you can DM Tommy, you know, specifically if you want to hear what his opinions on the I kind of do. Maybe we'll do that on the post show.

So your Mount Rushmore, let's do two, because obviously this one comes up a lot and it's always interesting. Like these two are pretty similar for all crew. So Mount Rushmore wrestlers. Number one is that your arrow. Really? I loved Eddie Guerrero as a kid, man. I cried my my eyes out when he died. Fun fact or morbid fact, he died in Minnesota.

Eddie Guerrero, Undertaker, Stone Cold and for. I always. I always struggle with this one, but I'd have to say, say, Sean Michaels. Yep. Interestingly, I would have put him before most of the ones you said. Anybody from the near I grew up with, of course, anybody from the new era, though, are you still watching the new? Oh, I still watch not as not as consistently as I used to.

But like what really kind of killed it for me a little bit was when AJ Styles got hurt because I was a big TNA fan when I was a kid too. I just remember seeing it on TV and the, you know, the six sided ring. Yeah. I thought so fricking cool. Yeah. The X division and everything like that. Yup.

Yeah. I said it before. I kind of fell off. Um, when Bray Wyatt went away. Yeah. Well, once he was fired, I stopped watching and then I heard he was coming back. So I started watching when he died. I stopped watching. But the new Netflix era

pentas back pentas there now. He's he's he's looking they're presenting him so so cool. But did you watch the last raw? No, I didn't. I haven't. I only saw the highlights of the Penta. I saw the Penta entrance and that was about it. So Penta wrestled Pete Dunn. Yep. I love Pete Dunn.

And I don't love Butch. I don't love whatever they've done with him for the past two years. When Pete Dunn came out as the bruiserweight and he would just like manipulate people's joints and hurt them. I was like, this dude is doing something so good and so new. And then they turned him into a joke and now he's back to being Pete Dunne. So like the Netflix era might actually be very interesting to watch because like they're kind of resetting all of the BS that Vince McMahon pulled.

Yeah, right. Career killing gimmicks. Yeah, like Butch. So I'm pretty excited about that. Who? Bear Cat Lee for Keith Lee. Bear Cat Lee, the Viking experience. They're now back to the War Raiders, which is finally. Yeah, like, well, they did carry and cross so dirty with the Roman. Yeah, but mass thing that he came out with. But now he's back to being the good guy. And he's actually really funny. Yeah, like media like he's a pretty interesting dude. This Jesse Ventura impersonation is top tier.

Yes, it is, it really is. All right, second Mount Rushmore is gonna be metal bands. Shit, that's a little tougher. I'd say for me, just cause I grew up with them, A Day to Remember is my all time favorite band. I know they get a lot of crap for not being like a full metal band or like their pop punk or all that. I actually don't think I've heard of them. So thank you.

Oh, really? Okay. Check out the Homesick album or what separates you from me. Those are those are two of the best, their best albums in my opinion, or they're two best. For those who have heart is also really good. But number two, again, just cause like they played such a role in me getting into metal music was Slipknot and also the Midwest Factor. Saw them live for the first time two years ago. Absolutely insane. I've seen them a few times and yeah, they are.

Even in their 50s. Yeah, I'll be able to hell in it. It's wild. I think I think clown is 60 now. Yeah. The three and four are always kind of revolving for me because like it comes in and out of things like if they if a band releases an album I don't like, they might drop for me. But probably Lorna Shore. I love Lorna Shore.

Fucking me too. Will Ramos is just S tier. Oh yeah. What he can do. Their old vocalist, Tom Barber was amazing. Yes, he was. Yeah. It was one of those things I heard about them because of Will Ramos just based on like what he can do is crazy oh yeah it's insane

it's absolutely insane and because I'm you know into the vocalist aspect of a lot of metal he came on to my scene I found Lorna Shore with their EP and then I went back and I was like well the other guy wasn't that bad either. He's in Chelsea grid now. If you are who are also incredible. Oh, my God, I saw them live a couple of years ago. They opened. They know they weren't opening. They were the headliner, but Carnaflex also played with them.

They were wildlife, too. And then number four. Jesus. Just because I've been ripping them so much lately, I got to go with Kubla Khan. Like, yeah, that's coming up a lot. Yeah, like it's it's I've been listening to them since the Nomad album, like from 2018. And it's just been a wild like to see how they progressed and how they continue to grow a hardcore band as big as they have.

It's wild. Yeah, it's wild. Yeah, that's come up a few times. I'm not too familiar with their stuff. Like they're on my radar, but I wouldn't say that I know them or I am a fan. They're very sorry. No, go ahead, please. They're very like beat down hardcore as their vocalist likes to put it. Caveman mosh it. The Anga Bunga as it's lovingly known as. Beatdown hardcore as their vocalist likes to put it caveman ma shit. Mm-hmm

The unga bunga as it's lovingly known as so yep. I Was a huge hate breed fan When I was younger and like that was We're just sounds like they're hitting their guitars. They're not just like playing with just hitting them They just did a song with Jeremy Jasta. So I think I heard that because I was on serious. And I think that came across my weird thing. Whitechapel. Oh, there are two new singles. Even I've been talking to Ryan Erickson about it. And holy like, I whitechapel was on my radar years ago. And then I kind of got bored with them. Right? Like I think the saws, the law was the last time I cared about them.

And then Visceral, Visceral Reg came out and I was just like, who is this? Like this isn't the same band that's been around for the past eight years. That song is amazing. So is the, the hymns of dissonance, whatever the last one was. Amazing. So is the the hymns of dissonance. I don't know. The last one was. Yeah, I I. I listened to Whitechapel. I used to listen to Whitechapel quite a bit, kind of like you said, I just I don't.

I say I got bored with them, kind of fell off just for a couple of years. You know, things ebb and flow cycle in and out. No, when I heard visceral retch, I looked at it and it looked like a classic, like hardcore death metal, like just album cover. I'm like, oh, OK, let's, let's see it. And I'm like, Oh, they're heavy, heavy again. Yeah. They're heavy, heavy again. And then just wild. I even said to my wife, I was like, I haven't been excited for an album since the last tool

album. Like I am for this white chapel album. Like that's how good that song was. And I, please don't let me down. Please don't let me. Do you listen to Paleface at all? I've heard of them, but I like the name is familiar, but I wouldn't say I couldn't name a song. They're really good, too. They're all I want. The first album's kind of

just because the mix on it sounds kind of kind of garbled. But they're they've released some really, really, really good albums lately. It's all like just straight beat downs, slam metal, heavy metal, all that shit. It's so much fun to listen to. So hell yeah. That's about all of the I have for Metal Talk now that Keith is zoned halfway out. I'm alive, but Keith is like, I like Pete Jennings.

Tommy, I want to hear before we move into the unpaid or underrated and the last thing that I really wanted to touch base on. I hear you're on the quest to find the best chicken sandwich. I want to hear who you're on that with how to how the journey's gone and then possibly give me top three or so. I won't steal Mount Rushmore, but there's got to be a maybe, okay, so I want to know top two mom and pop chicken sandwiches and top two chain chicken sandwiches and then

tell me about your journey in general. So I absolutely love fried chicken sandwiches. It's probably one of the reasons why I probably will never actually bodybuild. But heard that in Ben and Jerry's. But, uh, um, number one, um, there's a microbrewery here in Minneapolis called Northbound Smokehouse, I believe. That was the absolute best fried chicken sandwich I've ever had.

I actually went there after a Lorna Shore concert, so great night. Sounds like it. But on the number two. I'd have to another brewery, Surly Brewing Company over here has a. Like a Korean fried chicken one that's really, really to and it's got like it's it's just fantastic. And then like chain wise, you have to go. You have to go chain like Chick-fil-A Popeye's, et cetera. Bojangles, all that.

I've never had Popeyes, but you're not missing much. Yeah. Honestly, like, I'm not a big fan of fast food fried chicken, just because. Well, you know, so like could even be literally any like any known restaurant that like like anything that's not like anything that's a Anything that's not a one-off basically scans Scans, I know you're listening We need to murder these boys with some Mary Browns. That's all we need to do

You don't like chain chicken Mary Brown's chain chicken will change your mind. The two that I would say that is kind of like a chain that I really like. Number one is Dave's Hot Chicken. That just slaps every time you have it. And then Nashville Coop, which is a newer one up here in Minnesota that's pretty solid. It's like Nashville Hot Chicken and they have the kind of same thing with days where you have the different heat levels. But. We have a coop up here

and they're owned by a big chain restaurant and they they try to be independent, but they do deep fried deviled eggs. I've heard you talk about that. So, OK, so it's not the same coop like I feel like if you saw that in the menu, you might have ordered it already. OK, so it's not the same coop. Like I feel like if you saw that in the menu, you might have ordered it already. OK, so it's not the same coop. Oh, I didn't see double the deep fried deviled eggs when I was when I was there a few weeks ago. OK.

So how was their chicken parm? It didn't have it. It's all like it's all natural chicken. Sorry, I just had to like it was one of those. We can't go. Yeah, I don't to like it was one of those. We can't get a layoff. Yeah, I don't want to add zero weeks. Did you guys, were you able to go to the circus? Why in either your trips to Aberdeen and do the double dipped wings that they so fondly talk about?

Oh, yeah, they're great. It's a good time. It's a good time at the circus. It's funny is because like we walked in there and like, it's like in a small, like a TV show in a small town where everyone turns and looks at you like, who the hell are these? Yeah. You know, you got like 20 people walking in that they've never seen before. And it's like, who the fuck are these guys?

So, but yeah, circus circus is very, is very good. It's a good time. If you haven't gotten there, get there. So I do have one more thing I want to mention too. So we were all at a crew falls together We everyone was happy at the first bar for the most part and all these fucking all these young kids from the lifting department Kept on going. Oh, we want to go bar hop. We want to go bar hop. So they finally drug us out of there I don't think I saw you the second fucking bar before you guys had already left and I'm assuming you're the third or fourth bar

By the time we even got to the second bar your sons of it You made us walk all the way across that cold-ass town And then I don't even think I don't know if you guys were playing pool or what but I didn't I don't think I did We saw you at all once I got there. We we were in the back playing pool and not very well And I got really frustrated with the boys I'm not even gonna lie because they were trying to play like professional billiard rules. I literally just said, we're a bunch of drunk assholes in a bar. You got to call your shot. Oh, scratch. Oh, my God.

I was getting so irritated. Like midnight, you're trying to call your shots, but you're one eye in it. And I'm only playing shit. Pull the fuck off. Like if I got lucky and the ball went shots, but you're one eye in it. And I'm only I'm only playing shit. Pull the fuck off. Like if I got lucky and the ball went in, fuck you. That's counts. Yeah. It was ping pong. It might have been a different story. I enjoy ping pong a lot. So.

Drunk ping pong. Oh, yeah, hell, yeah. Geez. Put them in the squid games. Did you watch season two of that? Yeah, I just finished it last night. Did you watch season two of that? Yeah, I just finished it last night. It was after I was a hungover mess today because I was like, I only got two more episodes left.

I can stay awake. I should not have stayed awake. I did that probably about a month or so ago maybe and I did I think I watched the first hit. I think I actually did it all in one sitting which was a lot. All I know is it was like three o'clock by the time I turned the fucking computer off and I was like mother. was like, I was so mad at myself too. I was like, I'm just going to watch one more episode because it's going to get to a, you

know, a climactic scene and actually explain everything and not be a fucking cliffhanger. And like, no spoiler alerts, but like, yeah, fucking cliffhanger. Fuck you. Yeah. So that's at least there. It'll be back in a, within a year, which is good. So I had a similar experience of that one with Breaking Bad when the final season came out on Netflix.

Like I got into Breaking Bad, like at like during that, like during the last season. So like I intentionally tried not to watch any anything that was coming, like, you know, live, like the final episode. So I watched it all like months afterwards. And I remember I was in my dorm room and I had just got done studying for a test and like, I'll see what's on Netflix.

I'll, you know, just do that and go to bed. And they had the final the final like five episodes of season five part B. And I watched that entire fucking thing. I went to bed at like three in the morning and my test is at seven. Yeah. Every time this terrible time Yeah, well Let's let's go into unpaid and underrated shall we yep. Yep, so I'll try to explain this one better So I'm gonna get this game. We I like to play Tommy so very similar with the sisters play over there

You know we're a little twist on it instead of overrated. We call it unpaid or underrated So anything you don't really like go ahead and call it unpaid anything that's pretty awesome we'll go underrated we got several hand-picked topics just for you we'll go through as many as we can until we get bored with you and I'm gonna hit you with unpaid or underrated living with your parents oh shit damn it oh Oh, God. What a preface. I am looking at buying a house. I'm not completely degenerate.

Oh, but that's such a that's that's one where you want to ride the line with it because it's like the perfect one. But yeah. It's kind of underrated because you're like for me, it's been it's been able to kind of like rebuild, like, or develop, like rebuild, like my, my, my connection or my relationship with them and also save money. So we'll make buying a house a little bit easier in a year or two here. So we'll see what happens. Awesome underrated to dig it. Um, let's see unpaid or underrated. Sam Darnold. to dig it. Um, let's see unpaid or underrated.

Sam Darnold. Talk. Um. Unpaid, I he's going to be unpaid with after how he played those last two games of this year. Oh, my Lord. Like a deer in the headlights. Lost a big paycheck, probably, but I'm someone someone somebody's going to someone's going to throw a better. It's probably the fucking Brown's going to be my team is going to throw

a fucking four year project with like top level fucking money or something at him. But I hope not. You're Cleveland Browns. Die hard. That explains the orange now. I think about it. It's a contributing factor. I don't think it's the only factor, but yeah.

I think I think you'll probably end up with the Raiders or maybe maybe the Giants. I think the Giants would be hilarious. Both need quarterbacks and there's only so many to draft. True. All right. So unpaid or underrated. Strongman. I guess I think it's underrated in the fact that. It is providing it provides a different avenue of training for people that like to lift heavy or do strength training as opposed to

Like, you know being in the bodybuilding scene like that. So I'd say it's underrated in that sense As something I've definitely gotten more interested in since crew falls Yeah, what's your intention with that? Cuz I know I know diet Tanner has done a couple of shows or as in, you know trains it to some extent I can't imagine can't imagine nausea doing a whole lot of strong is in, you know, trains it to some extent. I can't imagine. I can't imagine. Nozzles don't want a whole lot of strong man training at five foot four. But maybe I don't know if he's. I mean, I'm five. He's probably I think he's my height.

So it's more just I know I struggle with strong man specifically. Oh, shorty. So my plan was it like. Well, right now, obviously, like being in kind of in prep at this point for lift hard live easy three. I don't really have like a super big goal with it, but I'd like to start implementing more of it into training afterwards, just because I think things like, you know, Like Yoke Walk, Logpress, Clark Log, and impress a shield, process shield, shield carries. All that is a lot of fun.

And I think it would just be a nice change up with what with training instead of just, you know, constantly, oh, hey, I'm going to go and deadlift a single and then do a back down set. You know, it's definitely fun. I think you'll you'll find some enjoyment with it, even if you just sprinkle it in a little bit here and there. I think I think Ronnie might talk me into doing it, Tom.

They're awesome. I could even talk you into it because I started doing it on Juggernaut and you know yesterday, because I was sick, I wasn't able to get through it all but like just even you're not doing your top set and then some back offs. You know, I'm loading up Juggernaut and Juggernaut's like, oh, do five deadlifts at, you know, this weight. And you're like, fuck, that's an easy weight. Why is this even programmed?

But the moment you hit submit, it adds 40 pounds or 50 pounds. And then do the same thing with those weights and then do the same thing with those weights. And you're suddenly like, I've never done this. I've only ever done heavy singles three to five reps max. Now I'm suddenly doing eight reps or am rap reps. Even am rap reps was murder on me. I did the squats. I couldn't do the deadlifts yesterday.

Just like I said, because my lungs were on fire, but like doing am rap 350 deadlifts yesterday just like I said because my lungs were on fire but like doing AMRAP 350 deadlifts at 158 pounds or whatever I was just like I want to do this. This is so much more interesting than do a single and then do some backoffs. But also I've been powerlifting for like four years so just it's just something so different. But again like I said earlier in this episode most strongmen can do powerlifting most power lifters couldn't easily transition a strongman, so You know keeping your conditioning up isn't the worst. It's kind of basically eight eight fucking squats eight eight wraps I'm not doing eight wraps and then you do it you're like actually that was awesome

Yeah eight reps. I'm not doing eight reps. And then you do it. You're like, actually, that was awesome. That felt a lot of fun. Yeah. I'm gonna sneak one more up. Sorry. Yeah, please do. I was gonna say do you have any more you want to do? Yeah, I want to sneak one more in just in case we don't miss it to go. Because it's it's gonna be a funny story. So unpaid or underrated. The bathroom, specifically the showers at your Airbnb. Oh God. So set the scene for us because I remember the picture vividly and it was the funniest

fucking thing ever. So let the listeners that might not be familiar paint them a picture of your Airbnb bathroom. All right. So it was one of the weirdest bathrooms I think I've ever seen in my life. And it's like, is this, um, it looks like the mix of like a, like. Of a shower room in like a prison is the only thing I could think of, I guess. Like it looks like a prison shower prison room, but then off to the left, there's like three, there's, there's like two or three toilets off to the side. So it's just like, why are there toilets here?

But there's no nothing, you know, there's no bird shield. like, why are there toilets here, but there's no nothing, you know, there's no bird shield, take it off. There's just, there's just this big platform. Like you have to walk up onto to like get a, like to shower. And then there's three or four stalls in it. And all of us are just like, what the hell is this? And then after we got back from, um, spotting and loading and after, you know, a couple of brew skis or two,

we decided to spot a drink while it was happening in the shower. Thankfully, with with lift jarts on. So nothing to to silly scandalous, I guess would be the word. I don't know. That's great. But it was it was pretty trippy walking in and that Airbnb in general was pretty cool. But also above a really bar above some kind of business or something.

A salon, a hair salon. Okay. It was like, like you walk upstairs and it's a big open hallway. And then there's just this massive like living room area with a big like island and a stove, a stove, a sink. And then you go down the other way and there's like a bunch of like bedrooms that also look like they're photo shoot rooms. So it's like, what the hell is this place?

Very interesting. So unpaid or underrated, and I think we buried the lead. Underrated is as weird as it was. Hilarious. And it's a good story. Yeah, that's something you'll never forget. And I'm sure you've told that story more than once. And at least it had beds good story. Yeah, that's something you'll never forget. I'm sure you've told that story more than once. And at least it had beds. Yeah. Unlike the, you know, well, I mean, Big Matt always gets his bed

when he books an Airbnb, just no one else gets one. All right. My turn. Unpaid or underrated GNC. Oh, God, unpaid, unpaid and both that it sucks and that it doesn't pay you well. I worked there for too long while I was trying to go back to school and pay for school out of pocket, some good memories there, but at the same time, like God did that place it's soul sucking. Yeah.

Uh, there's not a lot of them in Canada, but I do recall that most of the times I go there and there's like somebody trying to give me supplemented advice and I don't think they've lifted a weight in their life. Yeah, like, oh hey. I was like, you're either an 80 year old woman or you're a 30 year old dude that's never touched a weight.

And I'm just like, I just want energy drinks, man. And it's like, oh, you should check out this. And I was like, no, I'm not gonna check out this. Like I actually lift weights like you can't upsell me on this test supplement. Just like to say it was $200 on a Pilafor testosterone booster. No. All right. I had some dudes swear by those when they were in when they would come in. I'm like, whatever, I get five bucks

every time I saw you once. I'll buy them all the all you want. I don't care. Now, there was a commission kind of based job. Fuck that. For a while it was like and then like right around 2018, they changed it to a different style and then they took away the commission completely.

So you had to hit a sales plan. And this was during the pandemic. So it's like no one was really bonus. So it's like, dude, this is this is so lame. All right. Unpaid or underrated. White monsters. Underrated, underrated. Thanks. There is not a better tasting

energy drink to me. Like I have to switch it up just so that way I have different ones to, you know, you got to have different you have to have options, but you can never beat the tried and true. So good. It really is. I'm a ghost person myself. Like I drink mostly ghost energy drinks just so I can get my creatine and all the other neurotropics that they put in. But

like here in Canada, they're hard to get. So my go-to is the white monsters. They really are underrated flavor for them as the green one, in my opinion, the green ones. I, I hate that in the black can with the green em. Oh, it tastes. Oh, no, not that. You know, there's like a lime one or something. Oh, OK. Yeah. It's almost awful. It's like, yeah, the granite, the can itself is fully green.

Maybe it's like a fucking gummy bear or something, actually, maybe. I think that's rain. Very cute. OK, that's right. I've had I've had a lot of the flavors, even the orange. I don't love because they're like they're weird They're not just like this is gonna taste like like like grape and is gonna take like orange It's like all like multiple twists to it But the white one is just fucking perfect whatever concoction it actually tastes like it's yeah

Literally just fucking bliss in a can is it just cream soda? I? Don't even I don't even know what I would compare the flavor to. I think it's like, I think it's grapefruit. It can't be right. That feels not right, but kind of, I don't want to argue it. Like, I don't want to, like, it could be. It's just perfect. It's just like, yeah, perfect amount of caffeine. Yeah.

Um, there's a song actually, if you get a chance, Keith, you would like it more. It's called Circle K by Ricky Chilton. Give that one a listen. Because he just talks about being zuded on white monsters. It's fucking hilarious. I love that word. I would say there the day, like I'm so happy that that that Tanner brought that into our lives again. You know, that might be one of my favorite random things about massonomics is all of a sudden, like one, one or two words will just be beat to death for like a week or two with the memes. And it just, it's, it just never ends with me.

Yeah. Yeah. It just, and he puts, and so like he put out the zooted meme and then I made a joke and I was like Oh, we're using foul language now and I got attacked so hard by randoms They're like, are you fucking stupid? There's no swear words and I was like, oh, we're just gonna say zooted and pretend It's not a swear word and they're just like and they would like come at me so mean And of course me being the time the time wasting vampire that I am, the, as all the, what we do in the shadows talk is I am, I am an energy vampire when I want to be. Which character is that?

I can picture him. I can too, Colin, yeah, yeah, Colin. And he's, but that- He's the worst. But I can do that when I need to. Like I can totally. Oh, fuck. I can totally suck your soul and waste your time

by just pretending I don't know what you're talking about. And I can do it for hours. And it's the best. And I did that on the zooted meme. And ever since then, I've just loved the phrase zooted because I'm just like, yeah. All right. Unpaid or underrated the rock. Dwayne the rock Johnson, Dwayne the rock.

Johnson. Are we talking the boonies rock or what? There as the rest. No, I'm talking Dwayne the rock Johnson, the rock, whatever you want to take that as. Ah, he's not listening. So don't hold back. I mean, I think he's a little mad at me at this point, a little bit, because he only really plays the same character in like every movie, which,

you know, sometimes seeing the same character in a movie is cool because it's like, oh, hey, like, he's just going to be a bad ass. It doesn't get, get anything bad happen to him. But I saw this meme where it's like this is the rock from four different movies and he's wearing like the exact same clothes. It's like oh he's going on a jungle expedition or something. I saw that. But I will say his his run right now with with the final boss character is very underrated.

I think it's that's fantastic. Yep. I would say the same thing. I would make a bit of a counter argument based on the action movie thing because you have Liam Neeson, Bruce Willis, Chuck Norris, like all action stars, except for Keanu Reeves. They all play the same character all the time, every time, especially Bruce Willis and Liam Neeson.

Like, my- Taken series? What's that? Like taken? Yeah, like my impression of Liam Neeson is, I don't want to kill people anymore, but now I have to kill a bunch of people. And that's every movie he's ever been in. There's an article that he had to like, he's gonna like, quote unquote, retire from like

action movies. He's still gonna like act. Well, he can't do them anymore. I know, because he's fucking 70, 75. Yeah, that's like 80 edits per scene. It's insane. But they still keep giving him roles. And I think that like every action star is kind of that.

Right. Again, except for Canterreeves, Canterreeves. Whole new ballpark on that one. But yeah, I think that's going to round out my unpaid and underrated. I think you passed. All right. Good shit. Oh, yeah. Well, have you anything come to mind you want to ask us or anything you wanted to do to close this out with us?

Oh, I guess my question be is with the podcast, what's been the most enjoyable thing? And what's been the hardest part of it? So least fun, most fun hosting on Paid and Underrated. Yes. Essentially. I can go. No, go ahead, Keith.

I'm literally just going to, I'm going to, I beat it with a dead horse. Like the whole point of this podcast for me is to bring people together. I feel that we do that to some extent, uh, getting people to know each other. So when they do see each other in person, like that whole experience. And if, even if I helped like one or two crew who have social anxiety, talk to someone either in person or online, because they heard something on the podcast that resonated with them. Like that will emphatically always be the most fun to me because that's like

us actually making an impact granted i love recording i love laughing i love shooting the shit with the guys and the homies and the the cookies chili chocolate chips like all that like that's awesome but nothing is gonna like like this podcast is like leaving a mark on our community and we're actually like helping people get to know each other better so to to me, that will always be the best part about it specifically. But it's still it's all around fun. And I can think on the worst if Joey wants to go with something. Most fun is the friends I made along the way. Yeah. And I know that that's a running joke,

but it is kind of like, I talked to Keith and Nate every day. The only people I talk to Keith and Nate every day. The only people I talk to as often are the people I work with at work and my wife. And seeing the growth of, sorry Keith, I'm gonna talk about you like you're not here for a second. Like even Keith came out of his shell because of this podcast. Like he's become just a more extroverted and more engaged person from

what I can see, getting to know Nate, but then specifically getting to know everybody. Like Jen, Big Jen, brought me a birthday present at Crew Falls and she brought me those socks that have the fiend on them. They're Bray Wyatt socks. And I think I had mentioned once that my last pair broke and we don't know how to repair them and how sad I was. And we don't know how to replace them. And then I show up to Sioux falls at Tommy's house and she hands me a pair of f*****g fiend socks. And just like knowing that this person lives on the other side of the country, in another country on the other side of the continent, and found something that means that much to me because of what we do here. That was amazing. To me, again, it's that connection, it's the

friendships, going to Los Campionos and knowing 89% of the people lifting. For real. Right? Seeing Daniel walk around, hey buddy, I know you're listening, and only like attempting a couple lifts and not asking why. Knowing why.

Because I just talked to him three weeks ago. Why is this person over here doing that lift? Well, I know why, because I already talked to them. To me, that was, that is the best part of this. And also getting to hype up Mastinomics, which is gonna lead into the worst part. I'm gonna go to the Arnold in a month. And I have to be, excuse me, on.

That is hard. That is hard. It was hard at Crew Falls. It was hard at Lift Hard Live Easy and it's going to be hard at the Arnold. It's masking to be that version of you that is representing both unpaid and underrated and massonomics. So I'm going to have to be social. I'm going to have to be friendly. I'm going to have to be social. I'm gonna have to be friendly. I'm gonna have to be accessible. Whereas like the first year I went to the Arnold, I was a nobody and I could hide and it was awesome. I can't really do that anymore. And that I think is the hardest part for me is just having to like self monitor. because I'm not like, shockingly, I'm not a nice person or a generally outgoing person. But because of what we do here, I have to be. And because I like what we do here, do here so much,

it has to translate. I can either stop doing this and go back to that version of me, or I can either stop doing this and go back to that version of me or I can keep doing this and be that version of me. I don't hate that version of me, but it just, it gets hard. That's why like accru falls, I was in bed by eight o'clock and that wasn't because I was of any other reason other than I was fucking tired of just like being that outgoing version of me and it just it's just great Sonia. I think that would be the not that I again I don't want to stop. I love this. My job is this. I literally do sales. I am an outgoing extroverted friendly person every day. But just like sometimes like

you know sometimes on the Mastinomics post I wanna fucking bully somebody for saying something stupid. Like I wanna call them names and all but it's like that's not you can't do that because they click on your profile there's unpaid and underrated which is tied directly to Mastinomics and like you have to be careful of that. So that learning to be nice as a second language is fucking hard. Definitely can relate with a lot of that. If I

have to specifically put the least fun thing to it or the worst part about it, as you put it, achieve a little bit into a two parter for one, it's going to be just the burden it causes on my you know my home life with my wife and just the you know trying to record a podcast for two to three hours in a spare bedroom with like only one wall between my wife's trying to sleep and she goes to bed two hours ago so some nights she can fall asleep before we record and she doesn't hear me at all

until you know you know you know I go into bed and then other nights she's like I fucking heard you all night long you son of a bitch and you ruined my night. And I'm like, I'm sorry. That's so like, that is a big burden. I don't think she had any clue this fucking thing was going to last two years like, and have no end in sight. Like we're going to go until we run out of crew or till Tommy and Tanner break up. Like it's just, that's just going to be it.

Um, secondary worst part, I guess, would be just not having the energy, the time, or the motive, I guess, energy. I wish we could put more into content, not podcast related, but yeah, I'm never gonna have the we won't honestly, like I will say we will, but like, unless crew will step up and do it with us and like do like 90% of it, it won't happen. Like Joey and Nate and I have our plates are overfilled already. So if anyone wants more unpaid and iterated content, you have to pretty

much make it yourself on our behalf. So that's kind of where we're at. Like I did a couple of videos for Megan this week, just because I was so essentially like, I loved her episode. She was such a, it was one of the most enjoyable episodes I think we've done in a long time. So like I wanted to put more effort into that. Not saying that the other episodes we've done

aren't enjoyable, I just, I don't know, something about that kind of, I felt a couple things she said I wanted to get out there into the world and the balloon tattoo needed to be seen by the masses. So, but just in general, not being able to put as much effort into it as I'd like because to put as much effort into it as I'd like, because we put as much effort into it, I think, as we can for, you know, unlike Tommy Tanner who get a financial boon from everything they do.

Podcast related. We don't get that. So this is just at the sheer enjoyment of what we do. And like every, you know, the hour we put into this a week is from our sheer enjoyment, so I don't have more time to give to it So if the podcast is literally just very basic or if the the Instagram is just very basic stuff and like You know some stories and shit that I share like that's all we're gonna get but I wish we could do more basically I'm not a content creator. I'm not good at it. I'm not good at editing

The last video I posted of my deadlifts, I fucking forgot to take out my audio. So you can literally hear my music over the audio I overlaid. Like I'm not good at that kind of thing and I don't plan to be. So I can see what you're saying, Keith. Cause it's like, I'm not, it's just not easy. And it's, you know, I've got two kids and a wife and a job

and I want to lift and I want to do things that aren't, you know, I give five to 10 hours a week to unpaid and underrated, but that's on top of the 50 hours to my job. The 40 hours to my kids. Like there's only so many hours in a week. So I can see what you're saying there. And then when we, when I do like throw a reel up and it gets like 30 likes, I'm like, all right, this doesn't like, I don't need to put any, like when it's like the random shit we'll get 200 likes or something. And then like the stuff that we put effort into gets nothing.

It's like, I won't put effort into this anymore. I'll just, I think, I think the Instagram just is what it is. And people keep asking for us to go like real videos on YouTube, but I'm like, two people are going to watch it. So that's probably never going to happen either. Like we will never happen unless we get on stream yard and get a whole different setup to where it's easier because his Nate does go in every week and edit the audio file so we're

not gonna match that with the video file and I don't want two separate things out there so it's just oh but I love this thing I love what we do this is great this is it's the it's the hobby and pastime and I guess almost a it's not a midlife crisis, but it's like that thing like midlife people find to fill their time. So I guess that's it's more just it's midlife crisis isn't there isn't the right term, but like finding a all consuming hobby as a fucking 39 year old like isn't something I had on my bingo card for 2024 or 2023.

I think when we started it. So like, I don't know. I'd never saw this twist of fate and here we are. And it's, you know, it's a blast. I love it. But can't stop won't stop. We're here. I'm here for the long run.

So good question. I need them to be successful so we can continue to do what we enjoy because this is a part of my life. I don't want to give up. Yeah, essentially our job is to feed massonomics like customers and money so that they continue to give us supporting members to interview on this podcast. Like it's a weird, it's an unlimited hack, right? It's the human, it's the human CITAPEDE. It's the human centipede. Damn it. Someone make a meme of that with all you said it.

You didn't even realize what you were saying. I did. That's great. All right. Yeah, let's let I'm going to do the outro this time because last week you said you might want me to do them. So where do we find you guys? Tommy, you go first. Oh, you find me the affiliates, but that works. No, shut up. My turn. You can find me at Tommy underscore Schneider 22. Also, Tommy underscore stapler.

Keith, where do we find you buddy. KeithHoneyCut73 on Instagram. Don't forget to go follow my orange gym, then a wine cellar. And you can find me at Joey underscore Malesco. M-L-E-C-Z-K-O. That spelling has saved me increments amount of time. Don't forget about our affiliates. Now we've got Obsidian. You probably saw some comments on the last Obsidian post about the people begging them for free stuff and me being like, I wish I was sponsored. It's an interesting thing because like, I love that he roasts the people all the time. Oh yeah. And, but like, not a lot of people have obsidian sponsors and I do, I happen to have two codes, which is unpaid and lift bearded. So like keep using those codes, man. Um, a lot of white monster stuff. So go check out their stuff.

Barbell rescue again, great friend of the podcast. He's going to give you 10%. So order yourself a brush and a refill to save yourself the shipping. Um, you got plate snacks who does our unpaid and underrated banner that you can see behind Keith's head there. Uh, but they will do any custom banners and I kind of get the feeling our code works on all of their stuff You've got home gym con belt fed strength if you're gonna go and buy a shirt like the don't buy our cats shirt from strength Co apparel. This is crew specific

So if you're not crew and you're listening you want to use it don't this is for the crew They'll give you 10% off any of their apparel. so that's hats shirts not the plates freedom fitness is on there as well and am I missing anybody no that's it that is our those are our friends they support us and we support you etc yeah big shout out to belt fed as well they're trying to do a little different on their Instagram I've been chatting with Chris lately so love those guys. And with that, Keith. We'll see you next Tuesday.