Unpaid And Underrated - 098 : A Moist Chalk

Episode Date: March 25, 2025

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Dan. They dive right into great topics like The Eagles, being sick, strongman, warming up, an drumming. Links Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @dan_eager (https://www.instagram.com/dan_eager/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Dan.

I got a guy so mad at me last night because I wasn't supposed to work today because you gas lit him and told him that something no I went out last night and they were just playing like songs off of the bartender's phone and she's like Joey what do you want to hear and they had been they were playing the Eagles and I was like anything but the fucking Eagles. Anything but the fucking Eagles. I'm not gonna make friends like that. And she I know it's a it's a room full of dudes 50 plus. And they're losing battle for sure. Yeah. And she goes, What's wrong with the Eagles? I was like, What do they do? They suck.

They're middle of the road garbage. There's no good guitar. There's no good like, I was like, Okay, give me one. Give me your favorite song. And she's like, I don't know, Hotel California. And I go, what's it about? And this guy interrupts and he goes, it's literally about death. And I went, well, it's metaphorically about death, but nice try.

That dude probably should have climbed over the bar and hit me the way he looked. The look on his face when I was like, it's not literally about anything. It's, it's gobbledygook that we've all like internalized as a good poem. He was so mad and I earned his anger. I will tell you that because I was just so done with having to listen to the Eagles more than three minutes. All right. Welcome. It's like the seven minute cold intro that needs to keep in. Our podcast has peaked before it started.

That's rude. All right. Well, all right. Bring the course. Welcome to episode 315 of unpaid and underrated Podcast, a podcast by crew, for crew, mocked by crew, and sometimes farted on by crew. It was the chair. It was the chair.

I'm joined by Big Keith over here. Howdy, howdy. And across the way is Big Dan Eager. Hey, how's it going? It's going alright. I like the red beard look Thank you. That's right. That's the shirt. That's a good one. Oh, that's a good shirt. We'll get to that in a second. I guess I'm not drinking anything special. I just had a bunch of water. So I'm gonna skip that unless Dan you got something really cool On your your NA pick from maybe like a month or two ago. I've been I've been drinking some athletics There are their IPAs are pretty good they taste close to the regular thing

Does like a non alcoholic like an imminent personating like a seltzer or what is or is it like Okay, I got you yeah nice yeah i enjoy them i can't imagine no offense to anybody seeking out the flavor of ipa and not getting a buzz like that's fair i mean i get it like i'm gonna let a grapefruit fart on my tongue but i'm not gonna get anything out of it. Yeah i think i think depending on like the hot so they're good with though yeah i get like you get some good but i'm just i'm just messing. I hope i hope it's better macros though right because i know like i feel like a thousand calories or. Okay, so that's basically like drinking a slightly elevated sparkling water. Yeah, I think this brand particularly was created by a bunch of guys that were like big on like trail running on the west coast and they want to like run like 10 miles up a trail on a mountain and then like slam a couple beers with the boys and not be buzzed

from it on the run back down. So makes sense. Yeah, it's good. And instead of the regular beers, particularly like leading up to a comp one, I kind of do cuts and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. Cause it's a lot of sugar alcohol is just a ton. Yeah. Holds water way like crazy though. Yeah.

Yeah. Not that I would know anything about that. I'm like, I'm wearing my Arnold sweater cause it's cold as hell in my house. Like unreasonably cold or I'm dying. Both can be true at the same time, too. But under it, I have my Live Hard, Live Easy 2 shirt. I was going to ask if you had anything underneath that crew. Yeah, no, this isn't a crew. This is a hoodie. Oh, OK. This is a coat.

Has to have something underneath it, then. Yeah. Yeah, this is a coat. I'm rocking the it then. Yeah. Yeah, this is a coat I'm rocking the old barbell rescue t-shirt code unpaid saw big Kim We've got an MRI this week hopefully get some of his back pain sorted out, buddy. We are rooting for you. Mm-hmm I'm wearing the unpainted underrated T that's a beautiful one. Yeah, I'm glad I circle glad Glad you finally, you know got that ordered buddy. It beautiful one. Yeah, circle glad you finally, you know, got that ordered, buddy. It's good. Yeah. Yeah. It's I don't have a whole lot of stuff. Apparel lines. I'm sure we'll get to that eventually.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Divert and we got to support the boys. We got to wait till we get the guest in the horn for we really kind of dive into their backstory. You know, it's just would be a shame to cut them off early. Anybody have a chance to listen to last week's episode with Big Nicholas can be who I think I'll kick it off like there was I had a few things I enjoyed like Sorry, the thumbnail was great because I guess like, you know It had both it had is like, you know

His current face and then more of like a competition face with a full beard Like he was unrecognizable from one to one. Like that was wild to me. This wasn't someone I was familiar with or followed up until basically I knew they were gonna get him on. So I've been catching up on who he is and all that. I think my favorite part of the episode itself was at the end where Nicholas had some questions for them

and it kind of took them both off guard. And I was like, huh, that seems like a familiar podcast trend that I'm, you know, know familiar with so I enjoyed that. So is Nicholas listening to unpaid and underrated? I mean who isn't? I think they I think he made fun of Greg Dushad a little bit too. He did too? Yeah, he's enormous! Yeah for all those reasons I'll go ahead and give it a 5 out of 5 Mount Rushmore's. Did he finish the first Mount Rushmore? Or did they just like talk about the alien and then move on? Yeah, because it was, wasn't it Mount Rushmore of like events or Strongman? Yeah, it was, what's your Mount Rushmore of Strongman? Then he went off about the aliens, then off about something else. I actually don't remember them finishing Mount Rushmore.

That's true. Borderline political had to stop it. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, cause then I guess they're yeah. Cause they, when he mentioned Kaz, and they went on the whole hundred foot person Kaz story and that's like, wait into like other conspiracy theories, I think. What about you, Dan? How'd you like, I got to listen to it. It was great. I like Nick Cambula. I followed him for a while being a fan of Strongman and weight class Strongman. He's one of the, I think, more interesting guys in the open pro scene right now. He's one of the few guys that have seemingly made a successful transition from weight class to open.

So, fun hearing him just goof around with the boys a little bit. Um, and yeah, he was pretty good on the podcast. I feel like that's not surprising though, cause he has his own that he does with uh, other competitors in the strongman scene pretty regularly. So it was good. Um, yeah. So I think I'd give it a five out of five wiener dog. Doxens. Yeah.

What a weird way to say that. Um, definitely loved the episode. I too laughed out loud at the Greg DeSette. It was like Nick New. So he must be following or something. He's got to be listening to the podcast because he got the vibe pretty much immediately. I want to reiterate what somebody said in the Discord. Whenever they do the, we used to be a proper contract

calibrated plates And when one who I think it was Tommy was like now they're using the bathrooms And it was just so like it was just so good. I really I laughed out loud at that Great episode I'm gonna give that five out of five powered wires Yeah. Um, great episode. I'm going to give that five out of five power wires. Mm hmm. I didn't bring up that, that guy, that guy was like, well, no, it was funny.

Like I love that guy. Like, I feel like Nick should listen, but like they mentioned like four people they've had on the podcast and the last thing he was like, you had them on the podcast. I'm like, Nick, have you ever listened to a fuck? You're like, you're not overly familiar with their backlog. Are you Nick? It's like every time they mentioned someone, he was's like there's a lot of backlog. That's true It's impossible to get through the backlog. Everybody knows that yeah, I mean, I don't know

I finished it a couple years ago. All right. All right. All right. Did you know? one of us had to I'm working on it I got like a hundred more episodes and then I get my jacket. Oh I was well speaking of You know awards basically the one thing that could get me the jacket before him is if I win this March Madness bracket that uh They put together there's a mass anomaly sponsor. I think it's about 60 of us I think it was 69. I don't know if it went up or down from that cuz I don't think some people

I mean cat that 69. I think I saw something that it got up to 75, but six were incomplete, giving it 69. Oh yeah, because I was going to bust Chris's, I was going to, I saw somehow like four or five games into it. Chris was zero, so I don't know if that's because he didn't actually do his bracket or he picked poorly. So that makes sense if some people didn't actually fill out their bracket. But anyways, so that is-

You feeling good about your chances then, Keith? Oh God, no. Well, maybe to like be in the top three of New York competitors, but I don't know about like finishing. No, I think I'm already in like the bottom, like quarter. So no. And it's like once you're behind the eight ball that far, like you always have to be like, also, in my defense, I haven't already started. I didn't even know.

I care so little about college basketball. No, there's like multiple games underway and have already happened. But anyway, so that is happening. So someone will get a award check mark for winning this bracket. So that is it. That's a relevant story. Hopefully it goes to someone new.

Yeah. That doesn't have one. Yeah, that would be helpful to that person. Or it'd be extra hilarious if it went to somebody that already does. Yeah. Yeah. Say, oh, I already have that check mark. Sorry, everybody else.

That would be really funny. The most elusive check mark of all. Because there definitely wasn't like a pre-conversation of going like, it's, it'll be an award for the highest finishing non award having, you know, crew. It's so, I mean, so that actually looks statistically makes it even harder. Like, cause I mean, there's probably at least 10 people that, you know, are playing that have already gotten awards of some sort. So we'll see how that shakes out. Yeah, that's not funny. We can probably talk about it more next week because that'll be what the whole podcast

is about. But obviously everyone saw the Mastanomic South Carolina trip. I listened to the majority of the live last night, so they've got a whole lot of backstory on that, but it'll be more relevant next week probably. But everything I saw on Instagram looked like they had a blast. I'm very excited for all the upcoming YouTube videos and we'll probably end up talking about those all once we actually see them. So, I mean, I don't know unless anyone else saw anything.

Oh, the, the Tanner, the, the Tanner interview meme that kind of took off. That was, oh yeah, that was so much better. Evil Tanner. Yeah. Evil. Yeah. I was going to think what, what, what, what, what, what, what we coined that. And they just went in so many different directions.

And then there was like, oh, and then the his his shorts couldn't have been any Just made it oh Yeah, you guys were hanging out down there and a lot of those At least what I put us in there today. Yeah, but I'm fine somebody inevitably put me in every other damn shot right in his crotch and every other damn shot right in his crotch. And then it was... I got a funny story real quick. So I got a meet coming up in a couple of weeks and I'm really particular about my chalk

and I've been like out of... So I like spider chalk. Spider chalk is amazing. It's like, I describe it as like, it's a moist chalk, if you will. Like it doesn't wipe. It's like, if you have it on your hands, you can actually like put your

wrist straps on and your belt on, and it's not going to immediately fall off. Like just 90% of the other chocks out there. Cause like, I, I think I, I only had one block and I think it ended up going out to the garage last year. So the block I have in the basement right now is just a shitty, like, you know, grunk fitness, whatever I can get on Amazon for like $2 from like 10 years ago. So I think I'm going to end up throwing all that out and buying.

So I actually even told Stephanie, I was like, oh, I really need to get some spider choc. You know, I got this meat coming up and I want to like take good choc to the meat and stuff. And that night she ordered it without telling me. And then the next day I ordered it on Amazon. So now I've got two like $20 bricks of like fancy, nice choc coming. And it just, it makes me. It'll last you for like three years. Yeah.

And it's just awesome that like she, you know, it's pretty, it makes me feel happy that I have someone that actually listens when I talk sometimes. And like, it wasn't that she just put it on a wish list to buy for me for my birthday in a few months. It was just like, I'm just going to order this without telling him and it's going to show up and it's going to be like, here you like, you know, that's how I'm going to be chuckle. I don't, I find it wild, but I But I mean it it does make sense that people have preferred chalk

Cuz I've got I've literally just got like this Chinese made garbage that I and I use the block and I paint right Cuz everybody's got different like they come and they do that or yeah, I like to I like to paint Yeah, I do too But I also have bone dust and I think bone dust is what you're describing that kind of moisture chalk Where like you put it on and it doesn't get everywhere. I also used to use liquid chalk But like I didn't like the time in between putting it on and then waiting for it to dry. I didn't like that But that was it that was honestly my favorite chalk was the liquid chalk

If you get a chance to try the spider it's pretty awesome you should do it I I used to not have a preferred bread either until I tried that I was just gonna say that anything else yeah I know the problem is I have an entire box of this terrible Amazon stuff and a bag of bone dust because I actually don't use chalk that often and if I do I like I'm not like a whole like hand chalk I'm just like well if I'm dead lifting I'm just gonna put it on the parts that touch the barbell yeah an overuse or so the spider chalk is good because the block lasts forever yeah I definitely am NOT like a whole like

Tommy throw chalk all over me before I go type of person well like I forgot how good it was because I had just been using the shit chalk in the basement the last like four months and the other block had been in the garage and it's just like subconsciously hadn't really thought about it and then I was out in the garage two or three nights ago doing like a you know a like an rp7 log lift and I put some chalk on I said oh my god I forgot how how amazing this feels in my hand and how it doesn't fall off and so yeah but it works a lot better too when you're putting on like your shirt for a strongman oh yeah yeah i can see that than regular chalk you can see

that um anybody have a chance to watch the youtube video that came out today with darko and tommy i skimmed through it yeah yeah and is there going to be a uh a vulture a was it vulture uh added to the Dan's Basement Gym anytime soon? I don't think so, man. I mean, I've seen so many videos of those and they're cool, but they're so expensive. Also, I'm like, I don't know, what are they, like two grand? They're like 2,500 to get fully outfitted, I think,

with all the attachments. You can buy six specialty bars and a set of Kilo plates for that much, if you want to. Kind of, it'd be really cool if it was like $400 and like at that, like at that, I would consider it like it'd have to be less than like what a premium barbell cost or equivalent. Yeah, I think I think that's like one of the things that people like overspend on though. Like I have like one of those cheapo, like three like pulley location,

like plate loaded ones in my basement. And I mean it sucks, but like you can still work with it. I don't see why I need to spend, I don't know, 40 times the amount that I spent to get that off marketplace. But does it fit under the bed? It would, it was very was very And it is your wood I always like when Tommy gets in front of the camera a little bit more too because he has a little different dynamic than Just a different dynamic that they produce with you know Tanner behind the camera. So yeah Tommy buying that seems a bit more feasible than me

Well, yeah now he's got all this He's gonna make all these huge profits selling off us all off his old stuff I saw you he finally posted the stuff in discord and I will give Ryan his credit and like I don't think anyone else enjoyed His joke or got it, but he asked so Tommy Tommy selling a pair of one-inch Gugnir Loadable dumb orable dumbbells that have the intricate, intricate, what is the word there? Integrated, integrated collars. And then Ryan was like, did

these come with collars? Like knowing this? So I got to kick out of that immensely. So well done, Ryan. That's a good one. Last thing in general topics that I saw of note was I don't even think he announced it but he created a calendar you know date thing for a trip they're doing out in Ohio on May 3rd and it's basically a call to arms for anybody in the Ohio area that has a gym so they obviously they have a couple set up already to do like a gym tour and they're trying to maximize crew gym tours in Ohio, which it seems, it seems kind of

vague. Ohio is a, you know, I don't know. I think it is, it may or may not be larger than New York state. Uh, I'm sure, I'm sure we've covered that on this podcast at some point, but I don't really listen to what anybody else says except myself, so I am not going to remember what basically local for them. No, it's in the Midwest. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, that would be cool to see. I mean, I can think of like five or six guys that's hot in my head that I know have gyms there, so that'll be cool. I just can't imagine going to Ohio on purpose. That's not for the Arnold. Maybe that's just me.

I couldn't, I couldn't wait to get out of there. That's for sure. Yeah. Sorry Nate I'm just gonna I'm gonna speed past you there and I gotta go home. Definitely liked my time there but the rear view mirror was its best view. We'll catch you next year bud. Dan did you see anything in general topics this week that we missed bud? Any anything in the Mastinomics world? I know you're a big social media. Yeah Just got you to reactivate your Instagram account a couple months ago, so I mean I'm sure you're you're really big into that I'm slow on the

Following the Mastinomics Instagram just because I'm slow on Instagram anyways, but I did see I forget who it was maybe it was like Today or yesterday someone had a theory on the April 1st drop being horse skull met coasters. Yeah I did enjoy that that was fair I could see that or like an ins I think that was maybe the same thread or like an insert for your drink spotter But yeah, that would have to be that'd be challenging because it's just fucking like four different three different size string spotters yeah yeah I feel like that's less likely yeah a coaster a coaster would be pretty funny and it would be like low effort I mean it's just a matter of having someone like laser I wonder if they did like if they did do that like just like you would

just tell there's a couple people that, you know, either Dean or someone like an executive fit, someone that has a way to like mill a full stall mat with like some kind of laser or like a really fine tooth saw and go through it. And then, you know, because a four by six mat, you could get into like at least a hundred little like two by two pieces, you know, because a four by six mat, you could get into like at least 100 little like two by two pieces, you think so. I enjoyed that you both laughed and nobody knows why. You made fun of my air quotes. Lasers.

No, it's from Austin Powers. Lasers on the dolphin's head or something. Yeah. And then we're going to arm fit it with laser. Anyway, I think somehow I didn't get, I knew there was going to be a drop, but like it went over my head that it was a April Fool's drop, an April 1st drop. So I think someone.

I think the fools are going to be the people that don't get in on it. Yeah. Yeah, I don't see why they would be faking that, because it's a drop on a Tuesday. I think it's April 1st. Yep. And it's always Thursdays, right? Yeah.

So historically, at least as of my memory, well, I'll play Tanner here. Don't worry about our drop. Just make sure you get in on it. Yeah. All right. Do you have an ad read for us, Dan? Uh, yeah, I do here.

Let me get my notes out. Uh, sorry, I'm continuing to join the trend of being sick almost every week, too. That's his word. One of us has to do it. I was debating on being able to try to meet up with you tomorrow if I ended up not going to work, but not if you're sick. I'm just coughing. I'm not really that sick. You're sick every time I see you. The first I met you in person I thought you had like the plague It's static monsters. You were literally like there was like just snot coming down your nose the whole time Some dude has the plague right now like he died. I don't know where it was Morgan was telling me about it

Yeah Okay, here we go, are you someone who likes to kick back, relax and have the wool in your hair? Do you put 30 minute long home gym tour videos for spaces that are only 150 square feet? Do you hate having to wait 30 to 70 minutes for self-indulgent Midwestern podcasts to finally get to the title topic? They really need timestamps for that if so then join the Mesodomics supporting membership as a crew member so you can consume all the extra content that this core provides even drop the consume in there I appreciate that I love it I bet you do Keith all right let's kick out all these lookaloo's. Anybody this week? Oh, no. There's hundreds.

That's true. And let's get a make sure we got to report them for, you know, all the violations that. Yeah. Can you believe Tommy accidentally if he accidentally does that one time and like screw someone over on Zoom or something, especially if it's us and we use this to record like he maybe that's why I don't join the the live streams I can't risk Tommy ruining this podcast All right, let's get our guests in the herd big Dan is that you Yeah, welcome none paid and underrated. We're gonna dive right in we don't miss any gold

Which is actually funnier than you know that I'm recording everything So tell us about yourself what brought you to Mastinomics, yeah Let's see I'm Dan. I'm from the very vast state of New York Right in the middle. I think I'm the only person in crew that's in like Sarah the Syracuse area everyone else is like in in Rochester towards like the Capitol region or New York City. And I think I was doing some digging back on the podcast history of what I had listened to. And I think that I started listening back in like November of 2020. So I guess it's what like four and a bit years at this point. So been listening for a while.

And I think I started listening to it. I was listening to Ryan's episode from last week and he sounded like he found it in a very similar vein. And I was just doing a lot of long drives and I was getting sick of music. So I started looking for some podcasts and I was already, you know, in the strongman scene kind of and I think probably like a lot of people I think probably my first introduction was from like a coop video during that's an Alex Jim like

forever ago. So yeah, that's how I found it. Love listening to weekly good stuff. Yes, that sounds like it could be a an Apple iTunes review of Tired of music, you know Yeah, I can't I can't put a review in though until we're on the road to the road to 600 at least now We're getting there. They're they're starting to push that I think we're on the road to the road to right now Yeah, cuz I think we're at like 560 I think once we get to 580 then the road to the road to right now. Oh, maybe, maybe I could put one in. Yeah, because I think we're at like 560. I think once we get to 580, then the road starts. Yeah, yeah, it would be a shame to get in when it doesn't matter like, like 601 or 602. And that's like basically every

review matters. I guess, actually, I was listening to the back had a lot and they read Tron's review and it's still funny to this day. Like it's still genuinely one of the funniest reviews I've ever heard. Because he doesn't know it's like his Trond either. I don't think because this was like, I think I think Tron did our episode. He figured it out on that episode. I figured out who this was. That's funny. Yeah. But then the whole Treefitty thing never got discussed until our podcast, because groundbreaking news here.

Where do we find you on Instagram and Discord? And TikTok. He's a big TikTok guy. You're on TikToks? He is. He is. When I met Dan, he only had TikTok. And then I had like, well, he had deactivated Instagram and then pulled it back up after a while

But yeah, I was off Instagram for like I was like don't I was like don't make I was like don't make me get on Tick-tock day and I literally opened this app like once a year. Don't make me open it more than that Instagram was just at Dan underscore eager And then I'm pretty sure that in discord, it's at Dan eager at Digger 96 or something like that. pulls up as big Dan eager. And then tick tock, I think it's also just at Dan eager. Are you still keeping up? Are you still keeping up on tick tock? Are you just putting on Instagram now? I got you.

I post something every once in a while just just close to training. It seems Or you just put Instagram now It seems like there's a lot more like organic people seeing videos there But I think similar to how you use Instagram Keith. It's just like a fun little training log No, I let them at tracks because it is I can see people like people definitely don't want to see every single one of my Lifts, but like I'm gonna go fuck. This like this what I It's my training. I don't care You'll you'll see my cats and my wife every now and then too But yeah But I see some people that like if they're like if they started out as like mostly a personal Instagram Then yeah, I could see it like be an intruder

That's why you see so many crew as of late making separate lifting accounts and stuff because it is you know Yeah, easy easier that way because it's great. It's great to have the training log I mean, it's like, you know, at least as long as Instagram's around, like you'll have literal like 10 years of your lifting videos to like track your progress with. Yeah, I agree. I mainly got back on, I'm sure we can talk about a little bit later too, though, for the, I figured Instagram is the most useful for, for networking

and the strength sports, particularly with the competition I'm gonna be running in the summer. So I figured I would get to that in a little bit. Yeah. All us, all us old folks don't like TikTok. That's fine. It's easy. Instagram is easier.

It's not for connecting with people. No. Yeah. TikTok, I mean, not to use the word like ironically, but I just use TikTok mainly to like consume content like It's way better than like reels or like YouTube shorts or anything for that. Yeah You had mentioned, you know starting in 2020 listen to the podcast everything So does that have you made the backlog journey or you kind of is that?

so when I started listening, uh, I did, I did start going through the backlog cause I was doing lots of drives. I was actually driving out to Rochester very regularly, uh, cause my wife was from there, um, before we got married. She was looking out there. And, um, you know, so I was, I was taking like our Rochester. Yeah. Yeah. I was taking like an hour and a half rides a few times a week, you know, so I was, I was taking like hours and a half. I was in Rochester. Yeah. Yeah. I was taking like an hour and a half rides a few times a week, you know? So it was, it was useful to kill the time.

And they were great episodes. And I just kind of started going back like from the most recent ones. I looked to see how far back I got. And there, the earliest episode I could find was two 57, which was a Chris Duffin episode. Ooh, you got a lot of work. You got a lot of work to do to get that checkmark then, or to get the, uh,

yeah, I don't, it doesn't seem like that's gonna happen. Well, I mean, it is what it is. I mean, most people it's like, you don't, it's such a different world. Like, like, like it was literally, was it, was it nine? Was it nine years? I just celebrated. Right. Am I, was it 10, nine or 10, 10? Was it? it nine was it nine years. They just celebrated right? Am I was it was a ten nine or ten?

ten Was it okay, then that's wild. That's a decade like it's a literal decade. Are you sure it was ten or not nine? Yeah, I swear it was I think it was nine we're gonna get made fun of either way But I'm like almost positive design because like the seven year didn't seem that you tell it There's no way the seven-year anniversary was three Years ago, but fuck maybe it was I'm looking at episode 106 was in 2018 Well, no, I scored all the way back. I think it was 20. It was 2016 was like the first pod

It may be the gym the gyms a decade old but so it's I'm gonna call it nine year I think the podcast turned nine. So this was like from the live that just talked about two days ago There was a whole like that was there. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'll put myself on the line. I'm, it wasn't nine. It is their nine year anniversary. So like congratulations to them. That's awesome. But like, like, are you the same person you were nine years ago? Like, I mean, would you even like, would you even, would you even recommend someone to listen to you nine years younger, even talk?

Cause I don't know that I could it's like I don't know So I'd like so obviously everything the last like four or five years It's been essentially what they are still today But like this first first for you few years or wouldn't say they were hard to listen to but like they are different Nine years would have put me nine years ago to put me right as a freshman in college. No, just a baby years ago to put me right as a freshman in college. No, just a baby. Yeah. Yeah. No, so to make it worse, and I think Antony said he was like 13 or 14 or

something wild like that, like, like, like just a baby literal, but then I, I, I had to math it up for 2016 and I was 31, I believe. So I was like, God, I'm just a baby. Yeah. So our, our two years is coming up it is I've got it on the calendar and I'm gonna go with the actual They they did the whole you know, however many weeks in a year times whatever That's how I many episodes and I'm like, no, I'm gonna look at the actual date We recorded and I'm gonna call that our two-year anniversary. So I think it's like it's gonna end up being

Episode 102 is actually gonna be our I don't know whatever it is but like yes in the next month the middle of next month is our two year anniversary well I'm gonna celebrate it as are we gonna do anything about it yeah I have it open at the moment we probably should there's no one I think it's the next not scheduled week you can ask a question I'll look it up I think it's the next not scheduled week. You can ask a Dana question, I'll look it up. I've got to switch from docs to sheets real quick. Oh, here we go. All right, one piece of Masanomics merch you wish you had bought.

Wish I had bought. You've got the most important one on right now. I do, yeah. I feel like I'm probably the worst person to ask about this. I didn't buy a single piece of apparel until they came out with something on the comfort colors blank. Oh Yeah, that's just that's new. Well, yeah Wow Okay. Hold on. Yeah. Well, then what's your Hall of Fame status?

Slow. Yeah, cuz you wouldn't even have ten or two after today. Whoa. Yeah, because you wouldn't even have 10 orders. Two after today. Whoa. Yeah. Hey, that's the spirit. No, we're number two. We're number two. Yeah, you are. So is that a picture with a crew and then being on? No, drink spotter in this.

Oh, then you're three. Being a picture. You're on your Instagram. Yeah, no, I think Tanner specifically said it has to be your own post. You're right, because there's pictures of me and you out there From my age, but not yeah Yeah, I can get that three this weekend given that I'm going out to East Ave and training with Lucas tomorrow and Saturday I think there's some more people coming to Syracuse for the competition that's happening. Yeah. No, I think I think I think Chris is heading out

I'm like there's like a six six point nine percent chance I'll ride out with them and go to this up to six point nine. It was point six nine Let's go at the point six nine because I don't want to get anyone's hopes up because that's probably more realistic I don't really want to go to Syracuse on If I you know if I take tomorrow off which I'm debating on I might come out But if I got a word if I got to work tomorrow, then no, I need I need a day home yeah but you'll get there yeah I mean I'm not super worried about it I just love I love being in like the community in the discord and listen to that so as weekly I don't I don't have any

delusions of grandeur I'm getting that anytime soon like I said last week anything over one is awesome. So what's your supporting membership number? We didn't ask you that. Yeah, Debbie or 94. Okay. Did I? I can't remember. Did I have a role in that at all or not? I can't remember. I don't think I did. No, I don't think you did because I wasn't on Instagram. Do you join? You must have joined crew and then I know we had talked before we had met and I think it was crew related or Yeah, I think I think it was because uh, what was it through Brandon?

Yeah, I posted a picture with you and I saw it and I was like, oh I know of I knew of you because Okay, I think seeing home trip stuff. Maybe I'm like reddit or yeah and through through massanomics obviously, but Yeah, I think that's why I did it Not a big reddit guy. No, I know what I am. I haven't posted there in like three years, but I do have a couple pretty popular Reddit threads, I think, in there over the years. No, that's awesome, though.

I'm glad you were able to matriculate. Matriculate, that's not the right word. What? Matriculate, that's not the right word. There's a word, like an artificial, I don't fucking know. I'm too tired to think of what I'm saying. What the hell does matriculate mean? That's not a word that I was trying to use. It is now. Like bring him in, like bring someone in. Attract? No, no, it's something I'll you late, but It is Osmosis. Yeah But to go back so

May I think May 4th was the first time we recorded or may Yeah, May 4th 2023 was our first episode. So we're gonna when we record on May 1st, that'll be our two-year anniversary. So that'll be episode 104 and that's what I'm gonna call I'm gonna call that our two-year anniversary so that'll be episode 104 and that's what I'm gonna call our two-year anniversary and that's like a week basically we have two open weeks right now and it's one of those so we'll leave that open and kind of oh yeah I got a Bruce crew can suggest you know we will ignore 90% of it but we feel free to suggest what you would like to see for a two-year anniversary Do you want a round table? Do you want Nate to just get on here by himself and just, you know, do fucking, uh, you know,

um, modem sounds because yeah, yeah, just, uh, you know, let us know what you want the two year anniversary episode to be. And we will probably not do that, but it might inspire us to come up with a better idea. Yeah. Look at all the list of shit. Let's not do any of that. I feel like that's what the whole ideas and feedback Channel is on the discord to the clicker like here's an idea and they're like no I did it did you guys did you catch the the IG story I posted asking for feedback? Yes

But it was just a screenshot so there wasn't anything to click on. I think the stupidest part was it took me like three tries. Right? So I clicked and it went to the next one. And then I was like, did I do this wrong? And then I go back and I did it again. And then I was like, yeah, it was good. No, it wasn't.

And then, then I finally got it. I clued in. And then I shared every time I actually got someone giving me shit for it, I shared their screen. I mean, that's been, I don't know if it's, I mean, that I'd actually would like feedback to people like or not like when I do some screenshots of like text threads or comments and stuff because, or DMs, because like, I don't want to feel like I'm putting anyone, I'm not trying to put anyone on blast or anything or be overly intrusive. I just, some of that shit I think is hysterical and it's just, it's easy content.

I can do a screenshot and I can post it and I know like 10 people are gonna laugh and react to it. Oh, when Ryan calls you shoe foot and in that picture you had one shoe and one bare foot. Oh my God. I hit the floor on that one. That's the positive reinforcement I need. Okay.

As I've been like- You were always talking about too how it's like hard to get the extra content for that page Yeah, you guys both are busy all the time And you know, I think I think there's probably not a whole lot of people following that page that aren't actually listening to this So it's also like my extra content and my extra contents feral and weird and it like Yeah, I I and it's you it's you posting as pretending to be Keith, too.

Yeah, Keith. Yeah, I actually said it the other day. It's actually a good thing Keith and Nate are here sometimes, because I would go absolutely wild with what I want to do with this page and this podcast. We have to keep it generally consumable though. Yeah, I know, but like, it's just sometimes I just get an idea and then I chase it.

And the scary thing is sometimes it works. And yeah, we got some big stuff coming, I think in the next month or so, where I was just like, there's no way this will work. And I sent a message and it worked. And so we just got like crazy stuff coming up. And then I to check with these guys I was like is this stupid and they're like no this is actually gonna be really funny but it's like did you make it in the Aberdeen magazine before the guys did that would be great that would be hysterical you should

try that'd be pretty funny I I can't imagine that I could write the article myself I'm a published author so I could literally just send them the article and be like you take this here's my byline. You don't have to pay me and then they put in like. Unpaid underrated a podcast about a podcast from abradin that would be great. That'd be pretty good. I want to like, if we could crowd fund and get like the cheapest billboard and it's just to support our podcast, not the earth. Yeah.

I think we've joked about that. That would be like, put it in. Well, now we already ruined it, but yeah, that would be, we put up one at the next lift. Hardly easy and Tanner. Yeah. I was going to know that he actually listens to this. Doesn't he?

Yeah. Well, it'd be a surprise for Tommy because you know Talk to Tommy's credit. He did listen to a couple episodes recently of people that he knew at least so I'll give him kudos for that Dan do you have a training center? Are you a are you a certified training center? Banner owner and what's what's the gym name and all that give give your chain? Yeah, I am a certified training facility owner. I think the name that I just put on there was salt cities strongest home gym. Yeah, I'm not a very creative naming guy, but just went with

that because it was fresh on the mind. Yeah, salt city. I was like, I was like, you're not from Utah. We just talked about this. No, Syracuse is called the Salt City. I don't know by who, because I've lived adjacent to Syracuse for like 18 years and I've never heard that term in my life. Did you just call yourself that and hope other people did? He adamantly defended it in a text. He's like no, it's anything even like I know I just I had never I'd never heard it called that at all It's just funny to me that I you know, I just glazed over that one. Yeah It is a real thing though, Joe. I'm not making it up. No, I know I just

That's a funny line. Yeah Hit em with least fun most fun. Yeah. Yeah, I got a least fun, most fun for you, Dan. You are you are familiar with this game, I hope. If not, anyone listening, I'm going to give Dan basically a general topic and he's going to tell me the essentially the highlight in the low light of it. So the least fun, the most fun. This isn't a either other. This is a answer for both, please. So big, big Dan, least fun, most fun, putting together your first Strongman show. Shoot. Uh, and just, you've got to talk about that and like what stage you're in a little bit too. Yeah. Um, let's see, I'll, I'll do some talking through it and

then that'll probably lead you to what is least and most fun. Um, so I'm trying to put on, or I am putting on a show here in the summer, uh, in the middle of June. Um, it's going to be called Salt City Strongest. It's going to be in Syracuse. There's already a good Strongman scene here, but I'm hosting it in the other federations popular, which is Strongman Corporation.

I've done a bunch of competitions in that federation. Every time I do one, it's always like Philadelphia is the closest I can go to compete there. And every time I leave and I say, darn, I wish someone would like do this in New York, so I didn't have to drive so far. And then no one does it. So I figured there are other people that probably want that as well. So decided to put one on, I would say maybe the least fun so far is, you know, try trying to nail down the

details. And I'm trying to find some sponsors too, so we can try and make sure that it's like, really good for everyone that that's going to come out and compete. You know, I have no problem putting my own money towards it. But it'd be nice to not like lose a ton of money doing it. Like, the goal is always to break even. You know, yeah, if I break even taking $1,000 loss is like to break even. Yeah, if I break even. Taking a thousand dollar loss is like, ah, that sucks. Yeah, yeah, that seems not great.

Most fun, I think, is so far has been the support that I've gotten from people in the central New York scene, kind of, and they're willing to help test events or share with their friends. And a good handful have already signed up. Um, I think, uh, I think big Lisa who's in the crew, uh, he, he said he's going to be doing it, which is really cool. Um, and yeah, it's, it's fun, like picking out events and trying to, trying to think of what would be fun too. And I'm trying to, trying to make it as good as I can, you know, for the athletes.

Right. Well, we appreciate it. Finally, something for the lifters. Yeah. Yeah. So what is really doing it for them? So what do what else you actually hit on that? Did you hit the did you get least hand most in that? I yeah Was just just Logistics, I think yeah, make sense. Yeah, are you to be using Nate's programming for tracking these scores and stuff like that? No, I'll probably just do it native in Iron Podium because they already have that tool built into the signup. It's pretty handy. I've been like exploring the promoter side of the website for the first time and they've got a lot of like really useful things. Like you can, you can set out like different lanes if you want to run like two, three, four lanes at the same weight class at a time and stuff like that.

And it'll like assign athletes so you don't have to do yourself and it'll auto print out like the score sheets for judges and stuff. That's cool. Maybe look into Nate's thing. Cause that was like, from what I understand one of the the best parts of the strong man I have to live hard live easy because Nate's Program was able to be put up on the big TV and everybody Yeah

It's like it's iron podium adjacent, but it's like it's but it can something you can just cast to like a big TV So then like the audience can actually watch in real time like the scores I think it'd be the same as like if you just had iron podium up on your phone the whole time but I'm not really sure I'm there's there's more to it than that or you wouldn't put the time to build it it had like it had like up at the top it was like reps to beat and then we're current reps here right and then the top. It was like reps to beat and then we're all current reps here Right and then like keith's head. It was like keith's head up on the other side Like this, yeah, like it was

It was really really interesting, especially as a spectator who doesn't really understand strong man Yeah, you're more bought in because i'm literally like he's got to beat 12 reps. He's at 10. He's looking tired. Like, you know what's happening. Yeah. Yeah. That was actually big upset to Nate GPT on that one. Yeah. It was very interesting for that, for that aspect, but that's cool. I think I'd have to worry about getting TVs up and up and around. I'll have that five events set up across the gym. We're at so high. All right. Having, having that many TVs might be tough. Keith, do you want to talk the next subject?

Dan, are you allowed to talk about what you do for a living, Mr. Top Security? I can talk generally about it. Yeah, if you want to spend like 30 to 90 seconds or however long you want, just tell people what to do in case anyone has a similar career and wants to chat with you offline or something. Yeah, I work as an electrical engineer. I'm in the defense industry right now. Switch over to that from I was working at Carrier doing transportation refrigeration stuff before that. Just, you know, tinkering with stuff, working at like component level, board level, design, obsolescence stuff, lots of troubleshooting production hardware, pretty standard ground-of-the-mill stuff. I'm not really like an R&D guy,

but it's fun, you know, there's interesting problems to be solved regularly and keeps it, uh, you know, keeps it interesting. Nice. I drive by your facility quite often, I think as I go through there, I did soccer balls on the outside. When I'm, when I'm coming back from Albany, that's always like, whenever I see that plant, I'm like, okay, I'm like an hour and 20 minutes from being in my bed, like, or being in my house. Almost right.

Yeah, it's like, I know, like, I know I can make this like, like the first two, two thirds are done. I'm almost home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, good deal. That's pretty cool. As far as lifting history, I know you got in a strong man about 2019, it looks like. Did you do any youth lifting or anything like that, or it's just been more of a recent only only lifting in my youth was when I was swimming competitively, really, it was like we had one day a week we would lift. Other than that, it's just been like here and there since then. And then when I

was out of college, I just felt like I wanted to compete in something again, because it had been since high school. And I had grown up watching World's Strongest Man when it was on around the holidays. And I remember that I was like, yeah, that'd be fun. I tried doing powerlifting in the commercial gym I was going to for a bit and I got I got so bored so fast Now as a high school swimmer, you're not gonna make us call you captain Dan are you

Okay, that's good What about eager beaver As a nickname I, it's very original. I'm always impressed when I hear someone come up. It says here he wasn't a fan. Oh, because your last name for the David's, it's because of his last name. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, the David's his last name is eager. So yeah, yeahaver is like also an innuendo just you know to further explain that joke ha ha ha ha nailed it anyway that one David's got the David's they're gonna hate us like eventually they're gonna stop listening to this and be like these dummies I haven't I we we have that website we can go and look at our algorithm or our numbers. I haven't looked at that in forever, but I just have to assume we're not losing listeners.

I hope maybe we're gaining some. I hope we're not losing too many. I know people at work keep asking me, what's your podcast about? I just go, don't worry about it. You wouldn't get it. It's not for you. Like there's like eight eight levels of like the vibe you have to get before I'll talk to you about my podcast. Actually, somebody asked today and I was like, how much time you got?

Yeah, I should have. Should have something that clip from from track where he's like, like an onion. Yes. Layers. I still need to watch that someday. God. And yeah, Yes. Layers. I still need to watch that someday. God. Cake. Cake's got layers. Sometimes. Depending. Wait, why do they say you used to swim naked?

Who said that? Exactly. It says, all I know is Dan used to love swimming laps naked. Wouldn't that cause drag? It's probably. It's probably one of my buddies busting on me. Yeah, it's not true. The way our thing worked, I without opening up a whole other program, I can't tell you who submitted what. Yeah, it copies and pasted all combined together. I assumed it was fake, but I remember the drag joke to be honest with you.

No, there were plenty of drag jokes already. We would, a lot of us guys, No, no, there were there were plenty of drag jokes already. We would a lot of those guys that higher level swimmers would wear an extra suit outside of, you know, the jammer, which is just like compression towards we would wear a drag suit, which is like. Yeah, I was just like a net or like a mesh like. So we got to plow. There's over it to slow you down after you put the suit on and make you faster. So we got to take the Nirvana album cover and put Dan's head on it.

I'm not posting that anywhere. No, please, not on our page. Because some asshole, no, one of the assholes listening to this is going to do that and put Dan's head on the baby and then my face on the little baby dick. And it's just going to be the most crude thing ever. And I don't want to see that. It's going to show up in my notifications ever. And I don't want to see that. Uh, it's going to be, it's going to show up in my notifications.

So hilarious. Yeah. Now that you said it, nobody can do it. But if it had shown up, I would have laughed. Oh. Adding the keys to everything. Yeah. I can't believe it took anybody that long to do it.

Like when everybody was looking at the picture of round mushroom and trying to find the alien, I let it go for an hour. And I was just like, nobody's going to do it like when everybody was looking at the picture of round mushroom or trying to find the alien I let it go for an hour and I was just like nobody's gonna do this all right I'll do it I put the keys head on the Mount Rushmore like that was hilarious I'm the alien yeah it was just the wrong exposure looking at it from the wrong angle yeah you look at it from the bottom of the pool. Right Dan? Yeah, totally different from that perspective. Oh, Star Wars talk. Everybody loves some good Star Wars talk. I do like Star Wars.

I will say I'm not like a super mega fan. Like I know all the books and know what's like old canon versus new canon, but I do love watching all the stuff that comes out Yep, love watching the space wizards. Mm-hmm. Yeah space wizards are way better than ground wizards You're into Pokemon do you play Pokemon go I don't play Pokemon go I started playing the trading card game recently and I was looking for something else to kind of, I don't know, be like a hobby that doesn't take like a gazillion hours and tons of money. And if you're not doing the crazy like collecting and ripping open packs, like all the

people do on social media these days, you can, you can do it pretty cheap. You know where I work and every day, like I'll come in and I'll get excited because I'll see lineups out the door and I'll be like, yay business. And then I'll come in and see the Pokemon cards and I go, ooh, business. Yeah. Yeah. I can't believe that people do that. Whatever you just did with your headphones fixed everything somehow.

Me? Yeah, like you reached up and adjusted one and I can hear you ten times better now. What the heck? I didn't do anything, I don't think. Well, good work. Alright, well. Better late than never, I guess. When you're drumming, Yeah.

What are you playing? Death Metal, I assume? No, I'm not a big death metal guy. No double kick on there for you? I don't have one. I used to have a double kick pedal. And then I realized that I was just using it to cheat things that I could do with a single pedal. And I was being lazy.

So I got rid of it. Yeah, most of my drumming stuff is just through church. But then outside of that, you know playing for myself I like a lot of just kind of standard like pop and rock stuff Like British pop rock is probably one of my more favorite genres. So like the 1975 was really fun to play Stuff from them. I don't know if you're super familiar with them if you're a big metal guy, probably not No, no, I know the name but I couldn't name a song you know what I mean? Probably the one that is most known would be Chocolate that one was pretty

popular like eight years ago or something like that I don't know but you know pretty pretty straightforward stuff I'm not like the most technical guy in the world but it's good fun I've been doing that for over half my life. It's a good fun hobby. Being able to keep a beat is as technical as it gets because I could never do it. And it's funny because if I'm sitting there tapping and people are like, are you a drummer?

And I'm like, no. Yeah, it's a little different when it's all in front of you. The three seconds you saw me keeping beat is the most I can do it, trust me. Yeah, it's good fun. It's weird how much it does and doesn't translate to other things too though. It's like, you know, you would, you would think that I'd be great at coordinating all of my limbs to do whatever I want, whenever I want, if I can do that. But it's like,

I couldn't like dance to save my life. And when I'm doing like a lift, like I could have like, you have like no spatial awareness at all. But it's weird. Weird that there's no carry over. I'm sure there's some. It's minor. I think though. Yeah. I did, uh, as far as metal stuff goes, isn't there a new, uh, there, there was

like a new sleep token song that everyone's freaking out about. Uh, I've heard more about it than I've heard it. I've seen some clips of it. It seems like it'd be a fun one to try and learn. They're they're not like so crazy that I couldn't learn it with a single pedal. But it's also a lot harder to practice with, you know, an infant in the house and everything. I mean, I I could probably talk about idea of Sleep Token for a few minutes,

because I think that they have some songs that are mind-blowing. Like, this song has a saxophone solo, like, what is happening? But at the same time, I also come from the other side of metal, where you look at this and you're just like, what is this crap? They, like, pick something and be good at it. Why do you have to be, why do you have to be okay at everything? And yeah, actually, if I give it long enough, get ready to yell at me, sleep token will be the Eagles of metal.

Yeah, it's just like, they're not great at anything, but they're okay at everything. And that's, to me, what the Eagles are there's already an Eagles of death metal and they're actually incredible do you have you ever heard them well that's a contradiction of your own words you can't say you hate the Eagles and then say the Eagle the Eagles of death metal are amazing no the Eagles of death metal are you saying that's the title of the band yeah they're called the Eagles of Death Metal. Are you saying that's the title of the band? Yeah, they're called the Eagles of Death Metal. Okay, I thought you were giving me an anal. No, no, no, no, so I think I've spoken about this.

I think you have too now that I recall. Yeah, and it's essentially like if Prince and Little Richard had a baby and created the silliest band that could come out of that. So if you get a chance, you actually might enjoy their drumming because it's actually it's Josh Hom from Queens of the Stone Age, Homie. He plays drums for them. Okay. So it's not crazy, but it's very, if you're into that kind of basic, like he plays

drums, not the bass, like disco. I would call it almost disco dress Right, like you might you maybe get a kick out of them. Yeah, I'll check it out I'm trying to think of anyone else's like metal. I mean there are some like heavier or like I guess metal bands that I do listen to like a big fan of animals as leaders if I'm trying to like Mad hype for like lifting. I don't know if you listen at all. No no, that one's over my head and that doesn't happen very often. I think the most of the metal stuff that I end up listening to or stuff that's kind of in that space is more like Weird like Berkeley nerd like our projects after they all graduate from Berkeley in Boston So like I think like Bill Murray is like that too.

Yeah. They're like all artsy fartsy. So essentially it's like, um, my one friend used to describe Primus is this is what happens when art students make music. Yeah, probably like that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm big into stuff like that, but kind of concept the type music.

And you went pretty far with the drums. Were you auditioned for some bands when you were younger in your youth or had some opportunities to play in some bands? The biggest one that I ever did was like coming out of college I did a couple auditions for a megachurch down in Charlotte that has like one of the bigger like church music bands that are called Elevation Worship. I like got invited to go down there and try out and then I like clubbed up real bad and messed up all the stuff. So I was like, yeah, it was fine. You know, meant to be. I ended up being like back in Syracuse after graduating. I mean, I said it worked out.

But yeah, it was cool. That's probably like the biggest opportunity that I ever had for anything like that. But I'm glad it didn't end up going that way. A life of playing music seems like a really hard life generally. Seems like a good way to hate music after a while Yeah, yeah, it really does. Yeah when I was I was thinking about going to school I was debating doing like music or physics and I was like well be a lot harder to pay off, you know

College loans with a music degree and do physics for fun, but you could probably get a physics degree and do music for fun And pay off loans That's a good perspective. Um, do a little, uh, are you a maker of the needs? It looks like, yeah. Yeah. My buddy Josh and I, uh, have been, I've been trying that the last couple of years. We're, it's a nice passive hobby. You know, we're making like one, one batch, maybe like every like nine to 12 12 months. The first one was terrible. It's so bad, dude. We, we accidentally tried making

essentially the hardest kind of we could like a real kind of dry, white esc wine type mead. Yeah, first one really bad. Second one. Second batch we've got done. We got a we got a bottle of sometime soon. But that was like a fun thing to just try. He and I are both big fans of this one brand of meat called All Wise. It's based out of Brooklyn and it's run by, I think Dylan Sprouse from the Suite Life of Zack and Cody, one of those guys. Gotcha. Yeah, so yeah, got inspired by that to try making it.

I don't know how many more batches will end up doing though. It's discouraging when it's bad. Home brewing is hard. Well, how about home gym and how's that going? Home gyming is great. This week, training was good. I posted that in the Discord. I think it was the first time I posted a lift or anything in there. Yeah, it's fun training at home. I started getting stuff for that this past summer with having a baby on the way that was born in August. Figured it would be prudent to be able to walk up from the basement and help out with anything if needed rather than being 20, 25 minutes away and having to drive home in the middle of a workout. So my wife was gracious enough to let me

start getting stuff and I've got enough now to basically fully train strong man in the basement, which is great. I love that. I'm just sick. It's awesome. Yeah, I remember when we first met, you were basically saying, you got a new baby,

and you just got to have a little more priorities. And you still got good options to go back to your main. Do you still have a membership at the, what's the heck's the name of it? I can't think. You're the Jamie? I was trying to think of the name. Yeah, I do.

I usually do my event days there or at the other local Strongman gym. Yeah, I assume you go to Jamie's every now and then, right? Yeah, I've been going there more recently with the competition prep that I've got going on because he's got more of the stuff that I need for that. But yeah, it's also like home gyms are great. I love it. And it's great to have everything you want

and not have to wait on anything. But the community of being at a good gym is not something I feel like you can get rid of, if you have a good one. Yeah. It's hard to beat that. I think you have a good balance, though. I mean, as long as you make it to edge every now and then,

and I'm sure you see your buddies there. And then with social media, too, it's so much easier to still be, you could exclusively train in the home gym. And as long as you're, you put the effort into it with your friends online, like sharing videos, tagging people, whatever, like, it's not the same, but you don't, you definitely, you can make more out of it than if you actually put the effort, you know, if you want to be in the bigger community and have a circle of friends like that. So yeah, I think you've probably seen that though more in the last like 15 months with doing strongman when you go over to East Avenue, you did the like strongman Saturday stuff with them. Like strong strongman particularly, I think is way better when you're doing it with people. Because especially if you're doing like the same events as everyone else, you guys can like share the load of literally like bringing everything out and putting it all away. Otherwise you're like spending half your workout, you know, sending up the event

you're training. Yeah. I still, the worst thing I had to set up here was that like four bar deadlift medley that was like 500, 475, 450, 425 having to pull that away. That took me like, I did that in like, like six attempts of like, I'm not moving these plates. It'll take me 20 minutes to put these fucking plates away if I just like started it and just went. Yeah, man, you're better than me for that. I would have just set up like one bar.

Well, I wanted it to be a really cool video and like, cause it was, no, it was all like, it was, it was elevated. It was, it was a power bar 13. It was a, yeah, it was like, it was four different bar and then like a axle. Yeah. And then the axle too. Yeah. So yeah. So while we're still on the topic of this, I'm going to hit you, I'm going to hit you with a Mount Rushmore. I know that's usually Joey's, but I didn't, I, I don't know if I'm gonna do FMK

this week or not, but my Mount Rushmore I want to go with. So I want to go, your Mount Rushmore of Facebook marketplace finds specifically in the home gym equipment for either something that you added or something that maybe you shared with a buddy or something. Sure. Like the four best deals you've found on Facebook Marketplace. Yeah. I'll end with what I know is my best one. I think first one I would go, I found a rogue 100 inch monster light rig with spotter arms

and two pairs of Jacobs for $200 in New York City. And then I sent that over to Jamie for his new gym 315 Strong and they get a buddy down there pick that up and then drive it up. I's five out five six hour drive from Syracuse I don't even know if that's doesn't mean that's what it five five hours from New York City like four and eight eight nine hour day do it but if you had someone mule it to him and throw him a couple yeah he had someone that was coming out this way oh yeah so then that's that's that's definitely a no brainer for sure. That's a great yeah. Yeah, I think that that's got to be one of the best ones. I was able to get locally here. One of the

better deals I got was my rogue Ohio deadlift bar, which is way worse than Texas deadlift bar. It's just, you got to live so much on it to make it like bend and make it worth it. Like the Texas that the far is just so much better. So I got the rogue, the rogue deadlift bar, a pair of calibrated 55 pound rogue plates and a deadlift jack for three 50. So that was basically's free deadlift jack and plates for for the bar yeah calibrated kilo plates just have an extra power more calibrated pound calibrated pound plates okay yeah I don't really even know like yeah yeah my steel plates we used to be a pop-up right in the line because yeah yeah I hate that.

I hate that thing. Calibrate plates, honestly, like Calibrate plates. What are we using a dead look far if not for like making it with more and look cool, you know? So that's probably up there. I think versatility wise, I've gotten a lot of use out of the cable machine that I got. It's one of the just like cheapo crappy ones, but I got it for 50 bucks from someone that was upgrading to like the fancy

new rep one. So they were just looking to get the space back. So that was a pretty good deal. And then the best thing, which was like Facebook market adjacent that I've got is I have an infrared sauna on my basement that I got for $0. I want one of those so bad. It was great. I actually, not even a week before, saw someone in the Binghamton area,

so like the Southern Terrier in New York, and put up a regular traditional sauna for free, as well, they just wanted to go on. And I was trying to be nice. I probably shouldn't have be like this on Facebook workplace if I want to get my way, but when I see something for free, I'm like, I want to find another person that's giving this away and make sure I can actually use it

before I say I can take it. So I wanted to get home and measure up the space that I could put it in. And by the time I measured it up, I had already got rid of it, which to be expected. And then a couple of days later, my mother-in-in-law texted it was like, Hey, a friend of a friend is moving and can't take their sauna. Do you want it?

And I was like, I thought it was just going to be one of those like zip up ones. You put like a long chair in, but I was like, you know, for free, like I'll take it, no problem. And I got there and it was a full infrared one person sauna. That's great. Wow. Yeah. Joey was right there. Every time you adjust your air pod,

it actually gives us significantly better microphone for a second. Keep adjusting those. Yeah, so just like stick your fingers as far into your ears as you can maybe. And I don't know. Yeah, I'll just do this the whole time. That literally made it sound 30% better.

That is, I don't know what it's catching. Maybe it's when the little stems are pointed out farther away from my face. Or maybe the beards getting in the way of the microphone. Who knows? That's impossible. Beards only get in the way of eating, drinking, marital relations, job opportunities.

Like, beards don't get in the way of audio. I took about an inch off mine, just because I was working in such a gross building the last couple weeks that like I just smell like smoke every time I leave and I just like the less facial hair I have the easier it was for me to like wash my face and just not not stink the rest of the day until I could take a shower so there was a small contributing factor. I took about two inches off but I think for one of the the next chapters of my life I think most of this is coming off soon yeah really yeah like I'll probably go down to maybe as

short as you Dan like I can't I can't be without a beard because I I genuinely look stupid but I do think if I have to never made it as long as you if I have to start wearing a beard net, I'll be I'll be taking it down there or braiding it a lot more often Yeah, that's that's a lot of beard if you need a beard or a braid for it. This is a And even actually I was on a call today and I just thought fuck I just had this trim Do I seriously look like this? You don't do it yourself, right?

You got, oh no, I have, I have a person. Okay. Yeah. They do a great job of like keeping it like, yeah, that's how I know when it's time to go is because it starts like coming out the sides and my wife will go, you're starting to look feral. And I'm like, I can't, I can't have that. We'll have more beard talk during

unpaid underrated don't you wait okay was that Mount Rushmore I stole Mount Rushmore we can do it again unless you know I went I had a relevant I had a relevant Mount Rushmore that I didn't see any nothing at FMK jumped out that I really wanted to talk about so I had like we can do other matters of water today, so I'm over hydrated so Two liters of Cola. I don't Want it large one liter of Cola All right Do you want to ask any of the the ones that we put into Nate GPT? Yeah

We got a whole bunch of stuff back from Nate GPT. Oh there we do the FMK from that one I mean, you can still do your own Mount Rushmore. I just figured we could do two Mount Rushmores. I just- It's okay, it's not my game, it's our game. It's okay. FMK is like, the pressure that you had about coming up with a silly question every week,

I kind of get that with FMK most of the time, because usually the suggestions via the questionnaire are not specific FMK suggestions, they're just general, so then I still have to do all the legwork Whereas whereas Mount Rushmore. It's just like it's just an easier game to play. So like some weeks I'm just like dude. I don't have shit But uh, yeah I think we could do the that that FMK that the Nate GPT spit out at us and see if Dan knows what we're talking

About okay. So yeah, so we put your name into Nate GPT Yeah, and he spit out this FMK. There's got to be a better word, like, let's go SMK, let's go Screw Mary Kill. So that way it's a little more user friendly. Theo Antoine or Dossick. He says they are the main vocalists for the band. For the band. I think this was, I don't know. So a lot of it was all a lot of religious and like gospel musicy stuff.

I believe is where he was pulling stuff where it was pulling stuff from. So, all right. Well, I'm sorry. You need GPT. Yeah, GPT led us the wrong way. Big NateGPT here. Just a friendly reminder that while I do my best, I'm not infallible, so always verify my responses before using them.

AI-generated answers can sometimes miss context or nuance, and it's up to you to make sure everything checks out. Oh, and the question was about VolfBeg, a funk supergroup. Double check blur blur blur blur blur blur blur blur. Um, let's skip that and I'll do my own that one. Yep. Overhead variations. Oh man, overhead variations.

That's a good one. I had that one. I had that one highlighted, bolded, and italicized. Italicized. Oh, I did that one. I did that one. I did that one. I had that one. I had that one highlighted, bolded, and italicized. I-talicized. Oh, I did see that. Are you looking for what ones you want to do most next? Yes.

Yes, tell me about the good ones to do. If I could do one in the first of my life, it would be overhead press. Yeah, I think that's a good play. Um, I think one that's a great one that I don't see tons of people doing, uh, is strict log, but like the kind of when you're like, kind of really extended in your thoracic spine and it's kind of like a standing bench press. Um, I think that's a great one. Um, that's kind of, um, I think that's a great one. That's kind of, I think, gotten on the mind of my rush for from doing all the MST systems like programming, they're big on

that for overhead work. I would say, I think the bamboo bar is a great overhead accessory movement. It's not necessarily competitively, but I think it's just great for getting some good shoulder stability work and warming you up really good. You do the, the plate loaded one or the one with the bands with kettlebells and other is there a bands and kettlebells? Yeah. Not just tsunami bar. Okay. Okay. So now we are,

I would have been very empty with the Nick Kambi episode from the sister podcast this week though. He loves it. I feel like they, they, they talked about it. They talked about it on last week's episode. They talked about it while they were in Carolina. It talks about it again last night. Did we play with one when we were at, at Mason's Jim, the, yeah, I know he doesn't he, so he has the earthquake bar.

He has, yeah, he has an earthquake and a bamboo or two or similar. Whereas the tsunami is a plate loaded flexing bar so different. But it's like obnoxiously flexy. It's like it's like it's like it's like Gumby. Yeah. OK, so strict log. I think bamboo bar. I think surface dumbbells are really fun one. Have you got to try that yet, Joey? Yeah, I think that one's are really fun one. Have you guys tried that yet, Joey?

Yeah, I think that one's a really fun one. Then another log variation, Viper presses. What did you call those as of like two months ago before you realized they were Viper presses? I still don't think I'm wrong, but I called them one motion. Yeah. Well, I mean, I guess so. I didn't, I've never heard the term one motion.

Oh, I mean, I guess now that I remember you using it that, but like Tim, when I was at one of the East half sessions recently, they were talking about doing the sandbag and a one motion. And I was like, I don't know. What do you talk? What does that mean? And they're like, oh, okay, now I see what it means. So I can see why I call it. I could see I'm not necessarily on your side just because it is a viper press. That's what everyone calls it. But a one motion is like the is the is the phonetic term for it, if you will. Like, yeah, I think it's more accurate. Overhead probably. Yeah, it is a more descriptive because I don't know where the the where viper comes from I don't I don't know either but you know, that's what people want to call it

I'll call it that that's also what my my coach calls and so it's easier for me to just switch to that Yeah, but yes, and this is funny. Okay, I would not put a block press on there Joey if you were wondering about that, that's a stupid event. What's a block press? It's a literal block like a plate loaded by and like I like think of like pressing a rectangle yeah like a 200 pound rectangle burger well that sounds stupid it's terrible it's an event and it's like I mean it's a lot of people do it like I would do head press before that I Hate that one, too. Well, I didn't enjoy them. I think I would do that before a rectangle press Yeah, the the block presses are weird the first time I ever tried one I think it was like only 90 pounds empty and like once I cleaned it up to

Die for Iraq. I felt like I was gonna pass out because like the corner Yeah, like digging into my throat so bad. And how often do you do that in real life? I've only ever done that once. Yeah, and then but like how does that translate to real life? We're like, well, I better pick this rectangle up and throw it over my head. I would probably say only if you're like in the military and you're throwing like an animal case over like a wall. Yeah, yeah, jeez.

But that's not me. So I'm good. Keith gave me an idea for another question, and I'm going to put this out to both of you and I'm going to explain why. OK. I recently discovered that I can pull off chest supported rows. I love those almost as much as I love shrugs and deadlifts. I have been just increasing the weight and going ham to build my lats and my shoulders and my back and genuinely like I feel so good after doing them. And Keith said if I could do one lift the rest of my life I would do overhead. So both of you tomorrow you're told

you can only do one main lift and some accessories. What's that one main lift? I think it's got to be log press. I mean, are you counting like the all the variations of that like are okay for me to do? I don't know. I think it has. But if you say all the variations that makes it like so much more than just a single cuz I could I would I want to know what your favorite version of log press are you doing clean and press clean and press away. I had to do favorite versus if I only can do one left cuz if it's favorite it's like it's gonna be a variation I enjoy and but if it's it's what is what's one thing I can do that I can actually still get a full body ish Workout. Yes, somebody says to you tomorrow You are only allowed to do one main lift and then some accessories actual clean and press from the floor probably

If it's man, you're a brave one. I mean I wouldn't want to do that. But at least that way It's so it would be if I just say like a strict press or I hate those two push press out of the right like like at least I don't love I don't know Yeah, I think I think I do like long clean and push press. Well, yeah clean every right No, we have the same answers I'd agree. I actually would go log as well well but even though I don't have a log I do enjoy the hell out of the If you're doing axle forever Pete I feel like you'd get like unless unless you're good at switching the hands you get Like one like way over developed by the true

Metal clients I would have to think about that one, but I could also go double over Well, I guess it's still yeah, cuz if it's still yeah, because if they're both gonna suck, but I look at it's like, if I, I could, I mean, I look at it like I could, I took four months off a log and I like was right was exactly where I was at with log like before I'm off. Whereas like, if I took four months off axle, I don't think I think actual would be harder to get back into. Yeah, I yeah, I find it hard to get back into that.

Oh yeah. But I also have like a lot of the program year round. And also I- It's like nicer on the shoulders. In this hypothetical world, for me to do log all year, I'd have to go to the garage when it's like negative 10 degrees and that ain't happening. So I can, whereas I can, whereas I can axle.

So I think that actually contributed in my answer was, I don't, if I can, if I want to train three days a week and I can only do one lift, it's going to be something I can do in the basement. So I would look at log is eliminated from that scenario. And that's, I think might be a huge difference between us. I would look forward to going outside and lifting logs in the snow. Like that would be so fun for me. I do want to get all your neighbors to look at you funny. Yeah, well, because when I first started deadlifting in the driveway, that's what it was. Like I was deadlifting and I had a tarp over my bar with the weights always on it, because I didn't have anywhere else to keep them.

So I would be literally in the driveway standing on a rock or standing on a board, and my weights are on the board like the the plates and I was dead lifting in the driveway because it was like the only place I could deadlift until we finally cleared some space and so I I actually used to look forward to that because like I would do half my workout and then be like, alright We're dead lifting and it's like snow and in the cold and like your your body's fighting it But you're like I feel like the deadliest and in the cold and like your body's fighting it, but you're like, I feel like the deadliest, right? Like he's out in the mountains of Utah, deadlifting. I was like, yeah, I want to do that. Um, but yeah, definitely. Uh, I still think it would be straight up deadlift. If I'm being

honest with you, if I could only do one thing forever, probably the most like real life functional. Yeah. But I do. I'm really loving these chest supported bar dumbbell rows. I was going to follow up with you on that. So you're just doing like an inclined bench that you're, do you know, you just put, yeah, well, cause I have, I do, I do a lot. I've, I've done that with dumbbells and even like camber depending on Swiss bar, camber bar, depending on what it fits. But I don't have room for the bar to do it. And so like it was one of those ones it was in juggernaut and then I was like Going through like the videos. I was like I I can do those

Yeah, it takes so much pressure off my back when I do I pulled out the 35s and then the 45s and I was like Oh my god, this is such a good pump. Like I feel so good and I got my wife to do them and she was like Ow, my boobs Which is fair. So if that they do actually make a pad like there's an ab mat device Yep, it literally like it You know I think it goes under the breast essentially and then like you know makes it to where the boobs aren't smashed on the pad So that is a literal product. I think I feel like I'm doing an order from a mat at some point for that zircar pad that Yeah Like I'm doing an order from a mat at some point for that zircar pad that oh, yeah Yeah

Wild it scans had never seen that that's I know it was I just use your I don't even have elbow pads like I don't I got rid of them because I said I'm never gonna do I'm never gonna Need these then I said a strong man and now I need these But yeah, definitely that are important that triangle Pad because I have a circle pad but it just moves and slides and slips yeah because like the main problem I have with zerkers is that they just fucking hurt yeah what should I do that? I do and I don't like it because My squat depth is pretty deep. So I just end up hitting my knees Take that with the handles with the handles you can unthread the handles if they're on thread on mine

Okay. Yeah, that's what I have to do. Am I that's what I do on my elite Yeah, cuz our Lucas our mutual will crew. I saw him do it a couple times. I can do that. So when I was deep and strong man and I wasn't like back squatting at all, I was like, I, but I did him weird. I did almost did like a front squat SSB like slightly above where her is and below where a front squat is and just kind of, but it felt really good. And I could do like 300 pounds. And I was like, this is awesome. could do like 300 pounds and I was like, this is awesome. Yeah, you should, um, I'll send you a video of something you could do with that that's like similar to Zercher stuff. Um, Joey, I've been doing like, like extensions with them instead of like doing, I had clayborne squats in for a while, which are like a fun variation. That's like squats, like holding a sandbag and I'm like more popularly, you'd have like a band like around your hips, pulling you back and you're just like extending all the way up, but you can, you can kind of emulate

it with like an SSB and just kind of hug it and like extend up as much as you can with it. Um, and that's like a good fund variation. That'd be, that'd be like a good at home strongman thing for you to do too. So then I think this is a good opportunity before we get into the kind of the game, like the next unpaid underrated part. You did recently send me to try MST. I'm a shill for them. Yes.

I was doing the math today. It's pretty much the same price as juggernaut when you go from pounds to Canadian dollars. So I have like two questions. Okay. Juggernaut does not have a lot of variations. So the implement day, they only give you like 10 things to do and I only only own two of those implements. Okay. Is MST a little more? Hugely, yes. So you can, you either they have some prebuilt like phases to have like anywhere from like four to like, I think 12 and 16 week prebuilt phases. Um, but you can also make your own programs that are like eight week blocks and pick literally like everything

about it. You could, you know, say I want to, you know, peak my three rep max log, and then I want to accumulate volume on my deadlift day. And then I want to do a 20 rep squat on my squat day. And then, uh, the events that I want to do are like this, this, and this, and you can pick everything. You can pick kind of like the rep ranges or the goal weight that you want to do. It's, it's great. Does it require that? Because in all fairness, what I do like about juggernaut is I open it and it goes, go lift this and I go, okay, I don't have to think. Um, they're the prebuilt ones are going to be like money to begin with. Um, there's, and then as I get more used to it, then I can start moving things around. Uh, once, once a phase is built, you can't actually move anything around.

I think that that's like a feature that they wanted to add originally. And then like they built it too much and then they couldn't like change that, but you could like rebuild the program again. Um, so there's not any, like, I think juggernaut AI has like a, I don't like this like sub it for something else kind of thing, right? I mean, but I need that. So like I'll go into a week and it'll go, well, you're doing log press today,

but I don't have a log and I've told Juggernaut that several times. Okay, so with the MSC, you could just be like, I want to do axle press. Like you don't have to have a program. Yeah, so you can like, you pick like the specific implement even if you want or like I'm running 15 is deadless for this whole block. Okay. Okay, and it'll just hold it that for like all eight weeks in the programming

Because I mean like I was on the website and they were yeah They've got some big names on there that have clearly used this You know, you've been you've been listening. So you've heard all my complaints. I yeah Yeah, I was talking to a guy and he's a strongman competitor and I met him a couple times and then he was like, how's your strongman going? And I was like, I'm losing strength. And he's like, then you're not doing strongman. And like I went, I struggled on a 400 pound deadlift a couple of weeks ago, but I used to rep four plates and it's like What is my what is happening here for some reason my squat is decent my bench is good for whatever reason

But my deadlift is going down should always be going up in strongman. Like everything's a deadlift. Yeah, I know I yeah for me to struggle to lift it was actually 390 need a struggle on that, I used to do that cold. Like I could just walk in and pull from plates like it was nothing. And then suddenly like 390 gave me a fight. I was like, what is happening? So.

Yeah. Get some heavier sandbag or something. Cause yeah, I didn't deadlift for, I've deadlifted like fucking 10 times year, I think. And I like, I'm pulling PRs all the time. You've got a bigger deadlift than me right now. Hey, there's a, there's a change. Sandbags are a great training tool for that. Honestly. I've got, I'm sad to hear that like the jug, uh,

like strongman stuff is like that. Cause it seems like everyone that's commented on that in the discord says that it's kind of the same and yeah and i'm in talks with juggernaut about it yeah right like i i submitted a few issues and was like this is this is kind of wild and even chad did it to me which was kind of nice but but it's not like an added feature like you're literally just like juggernaut is is a powerlifting app that has this secondary feature. They're trying. They're just using you as guinea pigs to try to like make better. So it might take like five years for it to not suck. I don't have. I know. I get it. I don't know. Every time I open it, it's never above seven RPE. And I'm like, yeah, I know I need to be pushing like this is not over for me. Yeah

All right. Yeah, all right. I'll look at MST a little further Or I'll just get a coach like a loser MST is so much cheaper than a coach Not by much But yeah, pretty much. Oh Are you finding coaches for like 50 bucks a month? I'll just get Keith to send me his training and I'll just back off. I'm hoping my powerlifting coach can transition soon to, you know, we can actually do some strong man.

Cause I'm like, I made it very emphatically clear as like, all right, like my only goal this year is to have an amazing performance at lift hard, live easy. So we're literally like four months to like. Teach a power lifting coach, how to program some strong man stuff. Cause, but I'm still going to kind of do whatever the fuck I want anyway. Cause that's just, you know, I'm going to go do the strong man Saturdays with Tim and Chris and the boys, like once a month, a month, probably all summer. So I might even just to get things out of the way, do some implement days at the gym that I'm seeing at this weekend.

Like just go for the day pass. Cause I think they're, they're monthly is a hundred bucks, but the day pass is 20 bucks. So if I have to do that once every two months, I'll do that. Yeah. And just like, I want to borrow your log. I want to borrow your Atlas stones. Just give me like an hour today and pull that off. Right? Yeah. That's the way to do it for sure. If you can get your hands on the influence, yeah. They're hard to train log without a log. I want to log lift so much, but I can't in my basement. It's just not, there's no room for it.

And I've even found in logs, there's a log on sale right now for 180 CAD. Dude, just get it. I can't, there's nowhere to put it in my house. Go outside, you can do it outside. You just said you did. Well, the summer is coming. Yeah, there's not a spot at least, because like where you're, you don't have a place There's no There's not a spot at least because like where you're you don't have a place where you can go with the opposite direction of the Floor joist or do you have an open ceiling? Is it not an enclosed or is it? No, no, no, it's it's it's an unfinished basement

Yeah, so like technically yes, but I'm already like pushing it with a barbell and plates Are you if if you used 25 pound plates, do you feel like you'd have more clearance with the barbell? Oh, absolutely. OK, you should look into that. I where I log press in the basement prior to collecting five pairs of 25. I had to stand like perfectly in one spot. So the 45 pound place

would like fit just between, uh, you know, the rafters. And now with the 25s, I have a whole like inch and a half or two of clearance. Is it, is it worth doing seated log presses to, to kind of simulate? I hate that variation, but it's still a good one. So what you can, you can, like, learning how to end practicing in a log clean is a workout on its own. Like Dan was literally log cleaning 300 plus pounds as an exercise today or yesterday. So like that is also a thing you can do.

So you're saying just buy this damn log. I think you should. I mean, I don't know what 180 Canadian geese are, but it's probably, you know, something, something reasonably. It's obviously like a hundred. You know, if you get that, what diameter is it? And then you do, oh yeah, that's a good question. Because if it's an eight inch log, you might even be able to press it in the basement, but also it's not going to feel like anything you lose in competition.

But if you're never going to actually compete just because competing strongman competing in strongman is difficult because even if it's set up by body weight, like if you're going like the 165s or the 181s and under, like it still might be a crazy heavy weight that like I couldn't even do. So you know, I don't, I don't plan on competing at all anytime soon. Wouldn't necessarily matter, but I would look at the diameter. I would say don't get one smaller than 10 inches if you're going to get one. Yeah.

That's the diameter. Yeah. All right. I highly recommend that. That's fair, because an 8-inch. That adds a lot of variation, too, in the programming you can do. If you did the MSD thing and you had an axle on a log, you'd have like any of an SSB you said they do you'd never get bored. Yeah

Alright. Well, thank you for that. I was I had I was gonna text you all of this and I was like I'm gonna talk to him in like a good Alright, I do have to pee you might probably want to jump it on Yeah, I'll see if there's anything. Let's see. Was there anything else? I had there was a couple funny stories someone that uh, That's what I wish I wish I did know who submitted it because I know Brandon had submitted some stuff But I was cherry pick some of his but was there an incident Were you uh getting ready to where is it? so

I'm just gonna paraphrase what they say so the someone's favorite Dan story is a You guys were getting ready to lift and you were sitting on the bench and you know If there's a leg to put your shoe on, you know, you just snuck one out there on him Night a nice audible toot for the year co-worker or your co lifter Definitely would have happened. I have no doubt I don't know. I don't think it was I think I saw this before he's finally submitted his so That's the things that that's the one wouldn't say the downfall but like unless yeah Unless I would like look at it through a different lens like I don't yeah What no I mean? Yeah, what once I'm in the gym those those are all flying free

If you hold that in you go for a big lift you're gonna explode yeah, yeah, no, that's fair So I think that's most of what we wanted to cover before we jumped into unpaid or underrated So, uh, do you want to take the chance to explain to the listeners and your families and friends what this game is and how? We play it. Yeah, sure unpaid and underrated Big Keith and big Joe you're gonna give me a topic or a point of discussion And I have to determine if it is unpaid or underrated. Underrated obviously is what it sounds like. An unpaid is if it would be overrated essentially. That's fair. That's a fair description. Alright, so Big Dan, unpaid or underrated York roundhead dumbbells?

I think underrated. I don't think they could be any cooler, you know, but they're still underrated. I've been collecting some. I'm picking up a pair from you tomorrow. Oh yeah. Yeah. Cough on them. Cough right on them. No, they are, even if I'm home, I don't know. Well, if I'm home, it might be easier. I'll even bring them to East Ave But I think I'm gonna go to work off on him cough on his cats go cough on his oh, oh hi there They're currently

They're currently in the garage and he knows how to get into the garage. So it's a dead man pickup. So to be easy Yeah, yeah, you got a combo lock on there six nine six nine six nine Yeah, I'd say I'd'd say underrated. They're really cool. I think the thing that I love the most about them, like I was texting with you about it recently, Keith, like I would love to have like a bunch of them, but I don't want to go above 50 pound pairs cause I'm a, I'm a dropper of dumbbells when they get really heavy. Tanner.

I mean, but you better not make it out to Aberdeen. He's, you're gonna, you're gonna be the one that bends his hundreds. Aren't you? Well, I wouldn't use the dumbbells. I have too much respect for them. Um, yeah, I, I, I just feel like it's also, it's also increasingly difficult to find them above 50 and way more expensive.

Um, and you know, I think the coolest thing about them though is the history you have them like they're the pair of 50s I have I bought from a guy who, you know, I think was the only owner of them ever. And he was like, Yeah, I was gonna like give them to my kids, but like, none of them are interested in lifting, like gave you some history on them. Stuff like that. Like, it's cool to be like, I'm only like the second person ever on these, you know, I think of all the stuff that they did with them underrated. Good answers. All right.

Unpaid or underrated going for a nice hike outdoors or hiking. I'm unpaid. Yeah. It's yeah, I would, I would bet that my wife put that one in there. I, I hate hiking. It is so not my thing. Like getting, getting bit by bugs being out too long and the sunscreen doesn't that my wife put that one in there. I hate hiking. It is so not my thing. Getting bit by bugs, being out too long and the sunscreen doesn't last long enough and then I come back

redder than the shirt I'm wearing. Oh yeah. That's the ginger curse. Yeah man. And then on top of it too, it's like someone's already been there and took a picture of it. Why do I gotta walk there to walk back just to see it like I'm over it you know like I'm fine driving to a nice site but yeah the hiking is not my favorite that's funny there's I mean there's some good stuff there what is it the mountain bluffs I think it is out in Syracuse where it's chimney bluffs maybe I don't like you're not too far away yeah well maybe it's closer to me it's

kind of between you and me maybe yeah Yeah, it's been a while. I mean, there's some nice like parks around here that I like walking around We have one like great by where we live called Green Lakes. That's like a nice one. That's But that's like basically a walking trail Yeah, once it once it becomes like moderately difficult I'm not into it at all That's funny. All right, my last. I'm going to go with one that if it falls short, I'll just move on. Unpaid or underrated, the movie Whiplash. Have you seen that movie about the drummer and his abusive instructor?

Yes. I would say generally, I'm indifferent, but I'm not going to ride the line. Um, I would, I would say it's probably underrated. Um, musically it's like, it's a cool movie. I think, I think the acting in it is like not the best. Um, they really like ham it up. And I think I won a bunch of awards or at least was like highly regarded. And it's, it's, I think on IMD, it's a bunch of awards or at least was like highly regarded and it's yeah I think on IMB it's like one of like the top ten movies like highest rated movies

No, no that sorry that I haven't seen because I can sort my watch list I like movies that I plan to watch someday by like their overall rating and it's like if it's a second eight and a half Or something I am BD which is extremely high. So it it's like, I just haven't found the draw to it. So I was figuring if you could sell me on it, like I try to sell people in movies here every now and then. Yeah, I- There's a higher chance I'll watch this than I will Shrek.

I think there's like, there's probably some real instructors out there that are really like, harsh on people like that guy is in the movie. It's sad. I don't know, when people are, sometimes when people are chasing excellence, they go to some extremes, you know?

Yeah, I mean, we do wild shit to our bodies for the sports that we love, but I don't know. Having someone put hands on me would not be a thing that ever happens. Yeah. What you got for him there, Joseph? All right, you're only gonna do three. We have a a huge list here i spent so much time on this list all right fuck you do one more do one more big dan show me unpaid or underrated combo rex. Who are.

I think they're probably. I think they're probably unpaid. I don't know. I don't, I don't know if that's there because I squatted out of a squat stand and that's like almost a combo rack, but I don't know. I feel like that's like it's just a really pricey squat stand. I don't know why you need that ever. Unless it's like a power lifting beat. I mean, the people that train specifically for power lifting is always.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean the people that train specifically for power lefine is always yeah Yeah, I guess I'm paid so I have a question about hiking Okay, I knew it. Would you like it better in barefoot shoes? No, I don't think I would because, uh, I already don't like hiking in regular shoes. Don't wear barefoot shoes regularly. Like out in the world. I wear, I wear, um, uh, Car Who I think is the brand. Um, they're like, uh, wait not Carrefour, what is it? Ultra, Ultra is the brand. They're like a wide toe box, like zero drop sneaker. I like those, like it's, I think it's more comfortable doing it in those and like boots, but I like, I like the cushion on there. I only hike in barefoot shoes because I'm not allowed to hike without shoes.

So, alright. That's probably a safe bet. Yeah, I don't like shoes in general. In foot prisons. Okay, unpaid or underrated? Beard oil. Uh, underrated. I think it's good. I think it's better than Balms. And I think, I think it's probably better smelling than colognes that people put on most of the time too. So points for that.

Yeah. But yeah, it's, I think it's definitely underrated. I think a lot of people don't know what it's for too. I mean, and you can correct me if I've, I've got my history on this totally wrong, but I think it's probably better than Balms. And I think, I think it's probably better smelling than colognes that people put on most of the time too. So points for that.

Yeah. But yeah, it's, I think it's definitely underrated. I think a lot of people don't know what it's for too. I mean, and you can correct me if I've, I've got my history on this totally wrong, but I think it's probably better than Balms. And I think it's probably better smelling than colognes that people put on most of the time too. So points for that.

Yeah. But yeah, it's, I think it's definitely underrated. I think a lot of people don't know what it's for too. I mean, and you can correct me if I've got my history on this, totally wrong. But beard oil is more, I mean, at your length of beard, definitely for keeping the hair moisturized, but probably more at my length, it's more for keeping the face moisturized well, and conditioning the hair obviously because the beard hairs are so course and dry. They suck like all the moisture out of your skin. And the oil is, is much better at rehydrating the skin than a balm ever is. Cause the balm never like can really get in like the oil can. Yep. And, uh, you know, one of the secrets I learned was make sure your face is moisturized. That's how you avoid the beard itch because your beard just steals all of the moisture

from your face and your skin and your neck. And then it gets itchy because it's developing dandrosis, developing. Yeah. Yeah. I've never actually dealt with an itchy problem. I've had a beard probably since like 2016 or 17. I think when I started growing it, I was like, you know, I want to not look like scraggly and terrible, which I did still for a while. I was watching the old beard brand videos.

That was when they were bigger on YouTube. was like right after they were on Shark Tank and they had a lot of like tutorials and like ways to use stuff. And that was helpful. And I think using like the beard oil from the beginning is good. I even still use it like when I go through phases of like cutting it really short, I still put it on.

Yep, yeah, I don't use balms. Beard's too long for balms. I did have a cream I really liked, but I found it too thick and I didn't really enjoy the scent at the time. But you know, if you're listening to this and you're questioning should I grow a beard, the answer is yes, stop shaving and just do it. But yeah, clean your beard. After about two weeks it does become more work than shaving regularly though. I disagree. People should know that. Really? The reason I have a beard is because like I said,

I was shaving one day and my beard, or my razor was rusty. And then I went, I'm never paying for one of these fucking things again. And I haven't, I've never bought a razor for myself ever since. And yeah, like once every two months I go for a trim to bring things in. But like the beard oil, I have a boar hair. Do you have a boar hair brush?

I got a couple. Yeah. I've got a, I've got a Ram's horn brush and I've got some wooden combs, sorry, a boar Ram's horn comb. God, that's a hard sentence. And some wooden combs and like, you know, you take the static out, you bring it. Um, but yeah, I definitely would say a good beard oil. You want to make sure they're not using crappy like grape seed or whatever. Some of those. Yeah. Joe, you're supposed to be like the main one usually. Yeah. Ho-ho buy an olive oil. Definitely you want to use those. So yeah. All right.

Love that. Love it. Oh wait, no, I want that one next. Um, I have four for you. Unpaid or underrated. Dill. Terrible. Unpaid.

I, my wife was the one in 100%. I hate dill. It is like one of the worst like, I don't know, choices. Because if you like, dill to me is like the joke of like La Croix like, oh, like essence with orange. Like a truck of oranges drove by like 10 miles away. It's like, if you like walked some dill in the air, everything tastes like dill. And I just like, and then if you put it in, like you only taste dill.

Like you would have to like put in like, I don't know, ghost pepper or something to taste something else. I hate it. It's so bad. I love dill. I think it's the worst. That's so good. All right. Unpaid or underrated warming up. I think that it's unpaid. Yes. Team Warming Up. I don't like warming up. I do it because it's in my program and I pay someone to tell me what to do. So I do it these days. My app tells me to warm up too and I just skip that step. Yeah, I Try and do it when I have time at least and begrudgingly

I think I will admit that some of the things that are in there have helped me feel better But I still get annoyed every time I do it I Guess it depends on the style of warming up. So I like when Juggernaut first launched, it didn't have warmups. And like a big dummy, it was like your top sets this much weight. And I was like, that's where I start. And like, I didn't do anything. And I started at my top set.

Taught myself I was stronger than I thought I was. And then they started releasing warmup sets. And then they have their warmups where like you lay on the, like you lay on the ground and you wiggle. Yeah, right and you just get on your hands and knees and you wiggle And it's like I was doing all of those but then they would do like your actual like if you were squatting you do your squat Yeah, well the juggernaut squat warm-up is like 20 to 25 reps a Lot of reps. I'm exhausted exhausted before I get to my top set. So I was like, and then when I talked to Sam, big shout out to you know Thunderhawk Sam, he was like, so skip them.

He's like do a couple, do like five reps on the empty bar. And if your top sets 315, 135, 225 and then top set. And I was like, you can do that? And that's what I started doing. And suddenly my workouts went from two hours to 45 minutes. Yeah, that's the thing that I hate the most about like the warmups that I have now is it just like attacks on like 20 or 25 minutes. You know, it's like, they're not bad to do, but having 25 minutes back four times a week is nice.

Yes. And I'm not saying don't warm up. I'm not saying that like, I'm not saying- If your shoulder feels creepy and you're overhead pressing, do a little more overhead pressing before you get to your working weight. Yeah, but you know, like I'm not saying do what Sam does, which is empty bar 405. That's like that.

On a squat, that's wild to me. Deadlift, I'd be totally fine with that, but on a squat, I feel like I'd die. Exactly, but I'm 40 years old. So I do need a couple in between, but I'm not doing what Juggernaut says, which is like 10 to 20 on the empty bar, five with this weight, three with this weight. Even the time of just putting plates on and off for all the little jumps. I've been around enough people that are like, oh, you should be smart and do like play quarter,

play quarter. But I'm like, I don't know, like the deadlift that I did earlier this week was 6.35 for three. If I was taking a quarter jump and then a plate jump every single time, I would have like taken 30, 40 minutes to warm up for a top triple.

Yeah. And by then you've done so many sets. Yeah. Well, even just doing like plate jumps then, that's still like five, six warmups. Yeah. I feel like on a, like, like an elevated deadlift like that too. It's so much easier. Like when I do an elevated deadlift or a, a, a block press or something,

or a board press, like I'm not doing my warmups that I do with like straight weight on a bar. So like I'll go play, play, play, play, play, play, play, play, play or, you know, I wouldn't, I'm definitely like doing significantly less warm. Yeah, or or making just bigger jumps So like yeah But if you're going right from the floor if you were to make a difference between pulling 660 from the floor versus 660 or 15 inches I'd imagine on what you're warming up with Yeah, yeah, I'd say so but I mean even still it's like I mean

Similar and just like strong and competing to like something sometimes it's good even to like train with Oh, yeah, if you're ever gonna do strong man, you have to go to a show I'm having a room and not doing warm-ups or if you're more you did do warm-ups They were an hour ago on something completely not relevant to what you're about to go on lift on the platform You're pulling some games you get to the last event. Everyone's like we didn't do it. We've been moving for four hours like yeah And you get to the last event everyone's like can we just do it? We've been moving for four hours like yeah Yeah, so and powerlifting too like when I like I have the least amount of warm-ups for my deadlift because I'm like This is the end of the day I don't need to like I'm gonna do like three warm-ups and then maybe like two two heavier reps and I'm gonna go deadlift

Like that's it. Yep. Yep All right last one and I hope it doesn't fall short Unpaid or underrated, Uncle Leroy. Oh, Uncle Iroh. Yes. Yeah. From from Avatar, the last Airbender underrated. Uncle Iroh is great. The whole Avatar, the last Airbender series is great.

I think that that's like. I think maybe you could technically call it an anime. I'm not an anime guy, but I think technically is. But if I enjoy it, we're going to say it's not because I also don't like anime. Yeah. My brother is a big anime guy. And he would he would say that it's like one of the best or the best like American anime ever, which I think is probably a good distinction. Oh, nice glasses, Keith.

Yeah. Avatar is amazing. Uncle Iroh, I think is a great character. I think if you ever rewatch that series, if someone's already watched it before, he's like maybe the most fun character to rewatch in it. And you see so many things you never would have noticed the first time through. Like it feels like when you watch like the Matrix like a second time and you like notice stuff or, or, or like inception when you like notice stuff again, second walkthrough. But there's like even more than that. And I think also to you just like, he's an example of what like, like a good guy is and like a, you know, in a bad scenario, I think

he's still like a good influence. And then I'm betting my wife put that one in there, too. I also cry at the episode where he like sings a song for his dead soldier son. Every time it wasn't that song also about him. I think it was dedicated to him because he had died. Yeah. Yeah. The voice actor that was like the last episode he like did. The yeah, the voice actor. Yeah, the voice actor. That was like the last episode he like did.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I cry every time I hear it, though. I know probably my words, too, with like now that I have a kid, like if I think about like. I'll love you, my son, that would be really sad. It would be horrible. So fun story. We talked about Samurai Jack last week or the week before.

So Aku from Samurai Jack is the same voice actor as Uncle Iroh. And Morgan was like, you should watch Avatar with me. And I was like, I don't like anime. I'm not going to enjoy this. And as soon as I heard his voice, I was was like that's a coup and then I was in because it was the same voice actor yeah yeah I think I've rewatched that series more than any other series of anything ever I think I've watched it twice and I don't like it I don't like animated series Beyond Family Guy very much at all right so it's a good watch if anyone listening hasn't watched it, you

should little little King of the Hill update. I definitely am like halfway through season two. I've just been having it. I kind of just been like if I'm just laying in bed, I'll throw it on my Hulu app on my phone and just kind of lay it in the background. Like I'll watch it if it's there. But like it's nice to just like it's such an I don't have to see the video to like know what's going on. So like I've only watched I like so like It's funny like I've watched it on TV a few times But a lot of it has just been it's just easier to put my headphones in and like watch on my phone and just not Disturb the house. So but yeah, I'm working my way through that and we'll see how far we go

Um, I do have a couple Instagram questions. I'm gonna hit you with For the ones I thought I actually had in the show notes, but I must not have ever brought him in. So Brandon wants to know What's it like being only the third strongest squatter that your commercial gym? Technically, I think I'm the second because he doesn't even go there anymore. Oh, I mean like buddy up to like historical numbers I've been pretty sure he's coming back to Syracuse. I'm not sure if he kept his membership or not, but I know he's yeah an apartment yeah, I mean, I'm fine with it.

I don't know, squatting is an accessory movement for strong men. No, I figured, I don't think only me and you would find that funny, I guess, but Brandon's our mutual friend. I've been friends with, it's actually my wife's coach now too, but we've been together, we've been friends for like a decade.

He's a good guy. Yeah, he's a good dude. And, and I don't mean like I'd really know you, like he was definitely a, a good go between the introduce us. So, all right. Uh, big Garrett had a couple, but one that stuck out was, uh, when this will actually segue into maybe some, some, some strong man talk again, real quick, uh, why no grip, why no grip shirt at your comp. And I think that's just more of the federation that you're bringing in. They seem like very anti- I guess in general,

is it just because the promoters want their t-shirt to be like in pictures or something? Like I don't get it. Yeah. So typically the reason that that happens in Strongman Corps shows, and I think every Strongman Corps show I've done other than nationals has been no grip shirts allowed. And Strongman Corps shows tend to, on average, relative to the USS ones have more sponsors. And I think, I think a lot of it is like out of respect to people like sponsoring your show. It's like, Hey, we want their logo to be out there. Yeah. When it's just like you're running it by yourself. Like if I like I only I have like one sponsor for the show, but I was like, hey, I'll put like your logo on

a shirt and stuff like that. So it's kind of like if they're if they're giving me something, the least I can do is be like, hey, all the pictures are going to have your thing in it. So that makes more sense. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. OK. The last one here is your wife Lisa. Is that who that is? That would be my mother. Oh, your mother. OK, then it's even funnier that so. So your mother responded to our

Instagram is she wants to know how huge your dad is. He's tiny. It's like a hundred pounds soaking away. Yeah. OK, I heard you used to be about that size, too, and it wasn I heard you used to be about that size too and it wasn't until you started to get lit.

One of, to harken to one of the other notes that I kind of glazed on there was, someone has basically said that they used to think you were huge back in high school, but then like your high school you versus you now is just like hysterically like completely different. Yeah, yeah, I, for a long time I was was I was a smaller guy probably until I was like a junior I think I was maybe like 130 pounds and then between sophomore year and senior year. I went from like 130 pounds like 190

Did you think did you sink to the bottom of the pool that year like no Oh, yeah, I was curious. That's a lot of body weight to add on So like that had to be if you didn, if that wasn't a lot of muscle, that's wild. Yeah. I was probably leaner than I am now for sure. I like food too much now and don't move as much as I did then. There's a lot of movement and strong man, so that keeps you healthy-ish.

Yeah, it's not swimming like five or six miles a day, though. God. Yeah. Yeah, I's not swimming like five or six miles a day though. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, if that's one of my buddies that's known me for a while too, like on top of being larger, I just look totally different. I was like no beard, totally buzzed head all the time back then. So yeah, I think I did. I did scroll back a little bit and saw a no beard.

I saw a no beard picture somewhere on one of your platforms. I was like, Oh, that is what he looks like. Okay. I wonder where that would have been. I can't even remember. I maybe I'm, maybe I'm making it up. No, I swear. I saw, I don't, where the fuck would it have been? No, we're friends on Facebook. It had to be Facebook. We're friends on Facebook. I think. Right. Right. I don't think we are. I don't know. I'm only friends with my wife on Facebook. Oh, I only have it for marketplace

If Facebook sucks, yeah, it does I swear I saw a picture you was no you were like you had no your face was like 20% smaller and it had no facial hair Sounds about right I'm gonna try and get back to that to that size, though I think I've decided I'm gonna turn to be under 90 at nationals, so maybe my face will get smaller again. What's that in pounds? Like 200.

Where the hell did I see that? Now I'm confused. Maybe it wasn't. All right. So did you find what you're looking for? No, it's a follow up on that. I think I'm completely misguided and it was someone else, some other bearded person that I've been

Reviewing for podcast coming up and that so I don't know who the fuck it was I don't know But so apparently I don't know what you look like underneath that big ginger beard of yours don't need to know But now it's funny cuz now it's gonna like it's gonna it's gonna Fester in my head of like who did I see a picture of from like ten years ago that like I? That'll be the thumbnail in my head of like, who did I see a picture of from like 10 years ago that like I I'll find one and send it to you. There you go. That'll be the thumbnail. Oh, nevermind.

I'll send it to you after this is out. I'll send it to Joey. He won't share it. Dan, what do you got for us? If anything at all. I've got a million things written down for you guys. That's we got all the I'll pick a couple. Let's see. So for both of you, since you started training Strongman, I'm wondering what is the least fun and most fun so far of training Strongman

for you guys? I don't think anyone's asked that yet. I don't think. Least fun for me, I hate stones. I hate stones so much. Like they're fun, kinda if they're moving really good that day. But they don't feel like they move very good that day very often for me. And like we always do them at the last damn event. And I hate tacky in general, like I've gotten better at like dealing with tacky and putting it on and taking it off. I maybe maybe tacky is the least fun because I hate ruining my goddamn clothes because like, I just I hate ruining clothing.

Most just having like six different excuses to press stuff over my head. That's fun. Different moving different body parts, maybe or moving. Actually, no, I think moving stuff differently from what I did in powerlifting for a decade like like which would you know we kind of that answer encompasses some overhead press but just also picking like like squatting down and deadlifting bags up and or like just everything that is not powerlifting is the fun thing about strong literally that that has it seems to be doing you a lot of good too.

It's cheating, but I think that's the answer. It's like just the very... Yeah, the 100% difference. Yeah, but Strong, man, very fucking awesome. I've enjoyed. I'll start with least fun, for sure. I don't have the implements and I don't have the room for them. There are two things that I desperately want which is a log and farmers handles.

Now I have a trap bar. The trap bar could work as a farmers handle implement, but I don't have the room for it. So unless I can somehow move the truck and move everything and walk up and down the driveway, but then I gotta leave my weights outside. I gotta leave my plates outside. And walk up and down the driveway, but then I got to leave my weights outside. I got to leave my plates outside. Um, and again, like we talked earlier, the log, I don't have the room in the basement, but the log is the thing I want the most. It looks the most fun. And if I have unlimited funds, I'd be getting a wooden log. Like I would be going all in on the, that, that concept.

Um, so the least fun would be, I don't have the implements that that concept. So the least fun would be I don't have the implements that are required. I don't have Atlas stones, so I'm I'm doing bag over bar to try and get something there. Yeah. Most fun. Fuck your. What do you call those? Calls. calls bench press. Right. Oh, yeah.

I love you. I love you. Yeah. Oh, my God. Like, I don't know. There's some strong man shit. There's a lot of rules. Like there's a lot of rules and strongman competitions. And I'm down for them. I just don't want to hear them anymore.

Like, I don't know. I just think that that's yeah. I think not having to bench is my favorite part Because Bench, yeah, I'm over bench press. Yeah, but I'm only over bench press because like Touch and go I'm great like certain rates. I'm good certain methods I'm good, but they're like nobody's measuring my fingers around the bar and the brain is nobody like, like, I do feel like powerlifting is the nerd sport. Right? Strongman is the passive sport. And then you've got throwing like your, yeah, your Highland games is like the, like the, I'm retired and still

want to be strong sport. And like, I feel like that is the progression of strength sports. So I, I, yeah, I think not having, not even to hear commands anymore is. Muah. That's a good one. That's a good one. The other day I went, like, here's a just a very brief 30 second story. I went into the gym. I was feeling amazing. And it was a bench like juggernaut had me benching.

I did my opener at the lift hard, live easy, three for three reps. three for three reps and I racked it and yelled what the fuck because it went up so well so so greasy and so easy I was like that was amazing I enjoyed that but it's because I was able to just bench not like bench pause up, react, like I just didn't have to do any of that. I still got to move that heavy weight. I do feel like in strong man, like you just have more opportunity to move heavy weight. You don't have to do so many like, well, my shoulders weren't back enough

and my hips weren't locked enough and whatever that crap is. Tyrolean's a nerd sport. You're a bunch of nerds. You are good. I think those are those are good answers. California's sweat hogs. Oh, here's I think this is a good one.

And this is this is maybe a good call out to some other people in the crew. Are there any lurkers you guys are hoping to get on or wish you were more active in discord? Yeah. Oh, Hannah, I'm coming for you. Yeah. Yeah. Big Hannah, I'm coming for you.

I had a, I had a whole podcast with you that didn't get released and you are funny and you are, um, engaging and I'm coming for you strong man, Hannah. We're coming and you are engaging. And I'm coming for you. StrongmanHannah, we're coming for you. Yep. Yep. It's for you. There's people I've met in person.

I don't want to, like, I'm not going to put anyone on blast. There's people I've met in person that I've talked to. Like, there's people that said to me more of the Arnold than I think I've ever seen them type in Discord. And that's just wild. Some of them just don't have, like not having social media, I think plays a role in it too. Um, big, big Paul's not on social media, I believe. Uh, who was, um, big Dick Shrek or whatever. I did meet him. Well, I saw people meet him,

but I didn't like, I didn't, uh, I was still a little annoyed at him in general. So I didn't just from his whole like standing him up and saying that he was gonna go to crew Falls for some reason and not so yeah no that was the whole thing that I was but that it's irrelevant it was just he came over he's very energetic person like he was very animated and energetic seemed very friendly was you know but I don't think he Puts any effort or time into being crew. He just likes Mastinomics, but I don't think he necessarily cared about like

the The us I guess if you were like, I don't know, you know, which that's fair Like there's people that like, you know, they listen to a podcast They're not trying to gain 500 new friends, but they still want to support Tomi and Tanner. Yes trying to gain 500 new friends, but they still want to support Tommy and Tanner. So I get that too. So that's just a, we, we, we, we get the social aspect out of this that I don't think some people get, so it's hard. Or want some people don't get it. Yeah.

Yeah. So it's, it's hard. Like we got 500 people in crew, but 50 to 75 of those probably are deactivated cards, have cards that haven't been people that don't care or whatever. And then, but there's's and then another couple hundred that Like probably wouldn't want to be on the podcast, but like I don't know specifically I feel like it's a I've got a lot of we've got a lot of damn people on that. We have had like I don't know what

80 guests 85 guests like that's wild to me. That's a lot. Um, I mean cuz had 90 this is episode 98. So I think we've had at least 80 plus, 80 plus like in literal interviews. I don't know, that is a good question. I'd have to, there's more, I wish I had unlimited time, but like a lot of it has to like, it's hard because like things need to come up organically. I don't want to just like randomly,

like if I've had no dialogue with person XYZ, like at all, it's hard to reach out to them. So like some of these people, like I might not had no dialogue with person X, Y, Z at all, it's hard to reach out to them. So some of these people I might not have had dialogue with for a year, but I know I met them at home gym con last year. So I'll be like, hey, do you want to be on the podcast? Because it's like, I'm still trying to focus mainly on people that I have still met. I mean, either the easiest way to get on the podcast is to be super engaging with us on

social media and in the Discord. If you're not that, it's very hard for me to want to reach out to you because I don't know you or whatsoever. Um, or like one of us had met you in person and had, came away with a good rapport of like, Oh, they know how to talk. This won't suck. Yeah. Um, so what you're saying is if someone wants to get on the podcast, they should be more active in discord and talking to you guys. Yeah.

And just like just I mean there's the disc like if if if they've never once tagged us in a story or commented in the discord like after the episode comes out Then I don't know that you even listen to the episode like like and that's that's what's funny But then it like what shocks me is like last week's like this is a good This is a I'm assuming you brought this up just based off of you know, Captain Ron last week, but like Ron was seemed he's literally listened to every damn episode minus a handful I think he knew he knew like that was that was like one of the first ones I've been shocked that like you know me more you know us better than like I think you would and I don't know shit about you so

like that was cool to get to know him, um, out of the hundred people that we want to interview in the next couple of years, like, are there more like that? I don't know. If you're listening to this and you haven't reached out to me and we don't have something set up, like, let me know. Like I've got a bunch, I got a bunch of people's names on a list that like, I know don't listen to the podcast, but they are crew, but like, maybe they know who we are, but they don't really listen. So like, I'm going to keep favoring people that listen. So

if you're hearing this, uh, reach out, we'll get you on. Also Tanner helps. Um, sometimes. Yeah. He's given us a handful of really clutch suggestions. So yeah, he'll, he'll, he'll just be like, Hey, if you don't have anybody like this person is like a lurker, they don't talk a lot get them on get them more engaged, which is dope Like that's how we got Megan. Yeah There's one other one. He's She's there but she doesn't obviously for obvious reasons isn't too active Yeah, but we got her doing a lot more Was I gonna one trying to thought there. What the hell was it?

And, and the other one is, uh, Tanner sometimes feeds me people that are crew that aren't in the discord. Yeah, there's some of those too. Right? So there's a, there's a couple of those that I'm reaching out to. And like I said, sometimes my messages pay off and sometimes they don't, right? Because like, if they're not following me, they're not going to see my message at all, but then I got to poke a Tanner and be like, Hey, remind this person that like they should be on unpaid and underrated. And yeah, a lot of those ones will hide until they're launched. Uh, buying a shirt helps.

Tanner will periodically send me like if there's a new person that we're not familiar with that bought the shirt like that's How that's how captain wrong got on the radar? honestly I believe like like which even which kind of looking back on it now makes more sense because I'm like This was like six months or two a year within the last six months. He was like here He sent me he was like, yeah, this guy bought a shirt and I'm like, who the fuck is this? No fucking who this is I think I don't even think we follow

each other. I think he followed our Instagram, but I don't think any personal following. So yeah, that was a very, I don't know, I, I would hope that there's a couple more people out there like that. Cause if not, like if I don't have an audience, like that would suck. I hope we have an audience of people that like this and you know, if you're listening and you are shy, like, I mean, discord's awesome. Like, it's fun. Like, it's, it's, oh, it's so overwhelming, though. And especially, like, I feel overwhelmed now, because there's so many new names and faces that like, I'm like, I kind of remember you because

you've been talking for the past couple months. But like, I don't know your story. So it's like, I don't know to joke around with you. Whereas like, you know, the original like hundred plus of us, it's like, okay, you know, you know what you can say and what you can't say and who you could whose balls you can bust kind of thing But there's so many new people that it's yeah. Yep. It's literally a full-time job It would be so much easier if there were no bots We know you never see the bots though

hates the bots I Only unblock I only like view the bot if it's like a date that I want to know like how many days until this or what the weather is or something. Yeah, but it's so, I can't even say the word drink. I can't say the word plates. Like it's so annoying. I just don't see them. I have everything blocked so, I don't know. Yeah. It is annoying. I assume most of us do and then what's the point of them?

Ha ha ha. Alright, what else you got? I assume most of us do and then what's the point of them? All right, what else you got? Two more let's go to more. Yeah, I'll do an individual one for for both of you. That works Joey yep, wrap round or flat brush for the beard on your Flat doing it like flat the whole thing. Yeah,'s a round brush? Oh yeah, I'm confused. Oh no. I have a round one and I like kind of roll it down while I'm like blow drying it. And I feel like it lays way better that way than just a flat one and like brushing it.

Okay so I don't think I've ever blown dry and blow dry. Who are you? Big Keith over there with your talking. Yeah, I've never done that to my beard on purpose. But I would say that I have two brushes. I have one that I keep in the car that is round and one that I keep in the house that is. Oval.

I got rid of the flat one, but I think it's just because it started to fall apart. Opal is more round than straight. Yeah, yeah. I would say. But most of the time I use it for oil dispersion. Right. So I put I put oil and rub it on the skin and then and then I brush. But I don't think I've ever dried my my beard on purpose. But it's also because I don't have a blow dryer and I can't be damned.

My shower routine, my shower routine, I swear to God, is four minutes. I can get in the shower, wash, rinse, get out, put toner on, put face cream on, put beard oil on, in four minutes. A toner, my wife made me start using because I was getting, cause I'm old. So she had started using toner to kind of offset the glare on my skin.

Gotcha. I like showers so long. I like showers too much for a four minute shower. Like I can do a four minute shower if I have to, but like, I also take like three to four showers a day just because I wake, I wake up with a shower. I take a shower before when I get home from work and then I might take a shower after I work out because I'm not working out with earlier. I go into disgusting homes all day. I'm not working out with that smell on me. I have one shower a day and it's either if I'm

working, I get up shower, go to work, or I get up workout shower, go to work. I don't have that many showers a day, but Yeah, I have so much Man other and just one other person not like for so yeah, I also have four other people in there Yeah, I don't have that luxury of not having that my showers will go longer if I'm like trimming Manscaping And like washing my beard and shaving my head like those will go longer. But like on a normal day I'm showered. I honestly could be up showered and out the door in less than 15 minutes in most days.

So I ain't got time to blow dry my beard. That's fair. I'm impressed how like evenly it lays without you doing that. Mine, mine just like sticks out like a well, that's also the just the weight of the length, right? Yeah, I try and keep the size trim. But like even even still, like they just like fly away kind of. Yeah, I have. I'm like with you, Dan. I've got the one I when it's when it's not shaved like this, it's like no matter what the sides seem like they grow longer than the fucking middle. And yeah, and that's why

I get them trimmed. I also want and then when I trim it, it looks stupid because then it's like I can't I don't have a good I'm not I'm not paying 50 bucks to get a beard trim. I should because I end up just taking 50. I don't know what the hell you pay my bartender is 10. But your bartender pay your bartender to shave my head or my my barber is $10 to trim my beard. Do that. And10 to trim my beard. I don't know anyone that would do that.

And honestly, like I get like, yeah, she's just great. I would probably take this down if I could, but then I would have a too short of a beard and I don't want that yet. 10 bucks is a very fair price for a beard trim, especially if it's good. Yeah, that's she's she's the best. I need to do that $20 add on and that's like she's she's the best $20 add-on. Yeah I don't get haircuts. I don't have hair. Yeah, but All right, so flag brush noted He told you one quick one and then one like actual one I one i was i had a fan submitted a question for you. I was supposed to ask how's that bump on your upper back doing.

I've just been ignoring it i don't want to think about it. I'm so i'm so i'm switching primary soon cuz i've had a very bad experience with my last primary just I'm tired of his like some of his Clerical practices and like how I can never get a referral from him and now when I'm like hey I need a referral and it takes like a month to get a referral because he doesn't want to fucking work So like I'm just over that so But it was like a year and a half ago I think I did go and see a specialist for it. And they were like, we think it's this.

It's probably nothing we can do about it. You know, if it doesn't, if nothing changes in like a few months, you can get, you could get an MRI or you could just, you know, it was like 18 months ago and I have not got an MRI. So, but it has not, it has not moved. It's not, I don't, I don't put anything on it. It's fine. Like our, one of our mutual friends, Dean, have you seen the one on Dean's back?

If you've never met Dean or seen it, well, look at it this weekend. These are the big, the big, super heavy. Yeah, I know. He's his like, I, I can't make a fist big enough to replicate the size of the one on his back. Oh yeah. And he says it like causes him severe pain, like constantly, I think. So like, because he also like doesn't, doesn't work.

Or like I work around the mind. Like I will never high bar squat again the rest of my life and less as if this is here so it's only low bar or SSB so but I mean outside of the the one time I got really inflamed because I didn't because it kind of popped up and then I high barred with like a very nerdy bar and it just kind of dug into it and like made it irritated outside of that like incident I've I forget it's there sometimes and I catch it in the mirror. I'm like, what the fuck is that?

I'm like, oh yeah. But zero pain. I could sit there and I'm touching it right now and it's fine, I got a lump right below the neckline of my shirt. But yeah, I'm alive. I don't know. I gotta worry about my other shit first. But sometimes I should get the MRI. But I also, I've talked. I don't know. I gotta I gotta worry about my other shit first. But I should get the MRI. But I also I've talked to Brandon Diamond Candle. He said he has one too. And like, like, so

where's he from? Basement Brandon, Brandon Diamond Candle. Because he's not from Rochester as well? No. So funny. No, I don't know where he's from. He's in Rhode Island. Oh, yeah, Basement Brandon. Like he's yeah, all right the big YouTube guy so the neck lump is not just a New York thing. Oh

because See, I thought you were trying to be funny but then it was you were so fucking like Static I was just like is he being serious No, that was good. No, but, Dean's is scary and mine is not scary, but it's probably something. Just don't get it wet after midnight. Well, fan that submitted that question, there's your answer. Yeah. And then the one that I want to ask you is, I know you're a big spreadsheet guy and you

keep trying to evolve little PRS. Absolutely. Which I think is cool. Do you have a favorite PR that you've hit since starting Strongman? Oh, the 425 axle from the floor was huge. I think I've done it. That's got to be up there. If I if and when I hit the 300 pound stone that'll be it because I think I've missed that a couple times but I've got the whatever they have think Tim has a 265 or 275 I mean the first time I picked up I don't know like oh no well yeah I think I've eclipsed 200 on both logging and axle so like those were both

awesome I kind of view the video yeah I feel like I'm this I think I've I think maybe I might actually still be stuck at 195 on axle I'm not sure I'm pretty sure I hit 200 on both but like I don't know but I think in the least in the last I think yeah the 425 axle because I didn't think I would get it where's the other stuff I'm like a lot of the other ones I'm like god damn it. Why can't I do this? But it killed me though because all I had to do is like just pick up four or five off the floor with like a regular bar to like

Continue the reps on like the last one and I was just like I got it to my knees I was just like my back was just so locked up at that point that like I couldn't stand up with four or five I got it to my knees. I was just like my back was just so locked up at that point that like I couldn't stand up with 405 After just previously picking up 425 with an axle, but I think the 425 axle honestly like because like I don't know where because like that's That's only like 30 pounds off like my best pr on like a deadlift bar So like that one gave me more like confidence that like fuck maybe I will pull 500 someday. I don't know But pulling pulling 450 on a stiff bar the other day for a PR was pretty damn cool too for like I'm still I had to like kind of you know reign in power reign in strongman

and actually focus on this power lifting prep and you know we got I literally have a pretty much I've hit my heavy bench I hit my heavy squat a deadlift I might squat heavy one more time just depending on how I'm feeling typically I do like my last heavy squat like in the next couple of days and then I take a week off. So we'll see how that goes. But I also still haven't bought my USAPL membership. So if I have any setbacks in the next six days, I'm just not going to compete and not buy my membership and save that 60 bucks.

But it's towards your new laptop. I've been looking this knock on wood. This one's it's you know, we've towards your new laptop. I've been looking this knock on what this one's it's you know So we've had no issues tonight. Hopefully Cool, I think those are all my questions for you guys. Well, we appreciate you come and prepared It sounds like you reached out to some people and I got to get some good answers for us. There's some good questions so I finally Always appreciate when people actually I think it's funny when people or I think it's cool when people reach out because I was the big

gin episode of the reviewing when she actually reached out to Stephanie and I forgot that that happened and I think I talked to Stephanie about it yesterday so we had a little funny funny conversations about that. But yeah I enjoy enjoy when people actually put some effort into it. It makes us feel, you know, it makes us feel like we're actually, you know, people actually listen and want to be more interactive and not just get interviewed. So I always appreciate it. Yeah, man.

Yeah. I think you guys are doing a cool thing. I think it's awesome that you, you guys care enough about the community, people that get to know more, you know, get people more involved that are kind of on the outskirts of it. It's good. People need community. And, you know, we open it up to you and everybody else in the crew to send us that 200 episode suggestions of what you want us to ignore you saying that we should do. And not 200 episode, two year episode.

Yeah, that too. That would. Yes. Well, I mean, they can suggest both because like the 200 episodes, it's gonna, it's gonna be two more years till we hit that 200. God damn. That would be a wild. I don't know. I don't know. Like they always talk about like, so on last this week's episode, the sister podcast, they were talking, oh, the one that you guys haven't heard yet, but like, um, it's relevant to this. They were, they, they always say it. I was like, man, can you, can you even imagine this doing a podcast, this podcast and another like five years? And then I'm like, you've been doing it for so long.

Like, like, but like, cause I think they brought the number up as like another, cause, cause it was nine, which it was either nine or 10, whatever. But they basically doubled that. And it was like, could you imagine still doing this nine more years from now? And they were both like, like, no, like they can't. And I'm like, I mean, I don't know. I mean, maybe it was 10 years and I am wrong, but I think, I think the bigger question is, can you imagine not?

Yeah. And I think you should look at that. And if that suddenly starts to become appealing, then you have to question what you're doing. Uh, Keith, where did they find you? Keith, honeycat 73, go follow me on stream. The no wine seller. You find me at Joey underscore Malesco M L E C Z K O.

Uh, Dan, I think that means you have to spell your Instagram. Yeah, sure. It's a Dan Eager. So Dan underscore E A G E R. Uh, and if you're interested in competing in an astronomy competition in central New York, you can follow up Salt City's strongest The only reason I said you have to spell is because we both have the underscore in between our names Yeah, I caught that earlier and was like that'd be really funny if he did that

And oh, yeah all of our affiliates. Yeah, I was gonna gosh. Yeah, you hit that It's all good obsidian barbell rescue plate snacks home gym con belt-fed strength freedom fitness equipment and apparel from the strength though use code unpaid and save you a little bit of money at all those locations and Gentlemen and ladies. We'll see you next Tuesday We had to talk about something. I don't know we talked for two and a half hours or something in there Yeah, absolutely No, I'm gonna find something they like and there was definitely some good strong man talk and I learned some stuff. We all learned some stuff. But really, we all made friends along the way. But all the day, all we know is that you swim naked in the pool. So

You know, me, isn't that how everyone spends? I just that's the way this is how we started out swimming it like, you know, prior to birth. But you know, I think we've all evolved a little bit since then. I go barefoot and I go skinny dipping. It's what I do. Honk honk.