Unpaid And Underrated - 101 : We Used to Be a Proper Cült

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Brad (Gary?). They dive right into great topics like bikes, smoking in public, FB marketplace, the weather, and liking instagram stories. Links Massenomics x ��npaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @npc_gary (https://www.instagram.com/npc_gary/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Brad (Gary?).

Oh, Mr. Paul's will not be the problem. Morgan wanted to let you know that my kids now randomly walk around the house yelling Shabu. She thought you would appreciate that. Saga in the car today, she just turned some egos. I'm like, yeah, that's great. We'll turn that in. Turn that into one of my Tourette's ticks. He's wearing a singlet.

Yeah, that's a full body commitment. Well, I mean, we don't know what he's wearing underneath the camera. Like he could he could like just have like, you know, how uncomfortable would just the top of a singlet be like that would that would hug like a sports car. Just cut right here. Yeah. I don't know what modifications he's made to that.

It's assless chaps so I can just sit directly down on the toilet. There you go. As opposed to those ass full chaps which are just pants. Nate had some fucking underwear full chaps last week. And welcome back to Episode 422 of the unpaid and underrated podcast. I'm one of your hosts Big Keith joined as always here by Big Joey.

Yep, that's me. And this week We have a special guest. We've got a two-headed monster over here called Gary Brad. Go ahead and introduce yourself there, buddy This is the sound of my voice. How's it going guys? Good. Good. Good. And what would you like to be called my friend? Big Gary because I think even on the crew falls episode you said you wouldn't acknowledge me by any other name. I know. And then you log into Zoom with your government name and that's all I can see. I'm going to end up calling you that like 10 times if you don't change it, but that's

okay. Not a big deal. Not a big deal at all. I usually do job interviews on the iPad as well. No, yeah, I feel you. I feel you. And don't forget not to change it back if you do change it. Haha. Yeah.

Just logging into a job interview. I am big Gary. We're excited. I'll just show up like this in the same way. How could you not hire me? You saw the viral video where it was like someone changed their buddy's username to the most like offensive, like Dick. I don't even remember what it was. It was so vulgar. And it was like someone changed their buddies username to the most like offensive like dick I don't remember what it was. It was so vulgar and it was like But it was like the guy was like in court or something I think

Has he seen it or not, yeah You drinking anything over there Joey? Yeah, I got like a ginger ale and some key I I'm not really drinking fancy, but it was worth a quick story. So like we've been doing the What the heck drink I've been drinking there for a while water lure we've been getting waterloo at Costco for like the past six months give or take almost almost every time we go there and then stuff we did an order this time and Stephanie forgot to because we've ordered Waterloo and Lacroix and I think she just found that she just ordered the first one that came up in recent history and she got

the when I brought in Lacroix I was like, god damn it. What's the Waterloo at? So Lacroix is definitely a step down from Waterloo in my opinion You haven't tried the Curfew Signature water yet? I think I've had it once but I want to say it's like the variety pack. It's like three flavors that all are not my top tier for me. So I might try it again, but a grapefruit lime. Yeah. Not a grapefruit fan.

Yeah, it's okay. Okay. You got anything noteworthy over there, Brad? Gary, I just popped a can of a mango cart. Uh, that's why I said, there you go. I have a vison. Yes, sir.

Yeah. Well, that's just, Oh, wow. Just, uh, so this will bring us into what are you wearing? Just realized Joey and I are twinning it up. I think. Yeah. That's awesome.

Yeah. I just love those days. Red shirt day, the unpaid and underrated t-shirt going on over here. And, that's awesome. Yeah. Thursday's red shirt day. The unpaid underrated t shirt going on over here and Gary was good. The socks the headband. The pit viper. Now these are Oakley job on Tuesday. Oh, wow. And these four

years now. They definitely need some love. Very dirty. All right. All right. All right. That was a lab crack. Oh yeah.

Well, we got a little, let's see what we got this week. So I've been working on the, the lift hard, live easy roster. I say I've been working on it as in like, basically I wanted to put one together so I could know who to attack for, uh, you know, to approach for getting on the podcast. And you think that, uh, big old Dave sends on would have something nice and ready for me. And he's just like, no, he sent me like 10 screenshots of just like the registration things.

Then I had to tediously like edit all those photos and try to cut and copy and paste them all, but I got a big list and then Tanner and some other guys helped me kind of decipher who was crew and who wasn't and whatnot. But I know, you know, a handful of people to try to reach out to over the next couple of months to try to get on the podcast. And it was kind of cool to just see the whole roster. I mean, granted, you know, handful of power was probably backed out by now or what, whatnot, but, you know, we've got a full house for like a hundred and

120 some people on it. And I think, uh, like 60 or so had already been on our podcast. So that was kind of cool. I have it all like sorted out. So when I was actually able to look at it, I was like, you know, there's 50 names or whatever that like we've talked to you for two hours a piece. And then, you know, there's another like 10 or 20 people that like we could get on down the road and, you know, not confirming that I am going to do a,

another road to the lift hardly busy video series. Cause my God was that consuming. But maybe, and if I do that spreadsheet will be a, you know, instrumental. So number one. Yeah, that's number one. We keep in track. Yeah. Are you going to count how many times I say concern? That's two. I wonder if I, uh, it's the over under has got to be a dozen, right? Like, I think I'd take the, if it's the over under is a dozen. I think I'd go over.

I think if we hadn't pointed that out, it would be over, but now you're going to be conscious that we're counting and you're going to try and find, you're going to pull it up the source in a few minutes and try and find a different word. So, so our star com coming right up on Glacier. Yeah. What are, what are, what are some other, uh, what is it? Is it a simile? Well, it's the word where it's like sound.

It's, it's a similar meeting. What was that definition or what does that word that I'm now simile is yeah. Sinead. Sinead is like a metaphor. Oh, okay. And then as an English nerd joke, you are all welcome. Cultured man.

Somebody listening before I said that was a joke is gonna go fucking nerd. Last week's episode was a pretty big hit. Definitely. You know, we had more active discord memes and whatnot on our channel than we probably had in a while. So there were several in Nate's direction. And then all of a sudden, I started catching some strays from Matt and Matt. What the fuck? It's like, they were both good when I think I don't let him like I don't get a chance to look at my phone a lot during the day. So then when I when I finally was like done

with my morning and I had a chance to look at it, I was like, I was in my truck just laughing hysterically at, Matt's I was just kinda like, huh, you're funny, you fuck. And then Mad Cow's was just like, it broke me. I was sitting there laughing hysterically for 45 seconds when he posted the fucking calendar of, yeah. Sunday, listen to Masonomics podcast and everything else is blank

and then Thursday, record you and you podcast. And I'm like, I mean, yeah. Just so busy. Those two things do happen every week, but there's also like, you know, a hundred hours of other shit that happens. Hey, I didn't tell you guys, don't be mad that you're, you know, have a busy life.

But yeah, one of those people that calls your cats your your kids yeah I mean yeah do you say fur babies are we gonna kick you off this podcast right now I mean I historically tell people that like my cats dying would mean more to me than that like ninety nine percent of the humans in the world dying like and I will stand by that forever just because you know that's gonna

affect my personal life and someone's random family member dying Like yeah, I don't care. Sorry it sucks for you, but my cat's dying means more to me than that I said that to someone once and they got like really offended and I was like I don't care Yeah, I can't see be like I can't see being offended by that. Maybe judging you a little for that Yeah, but like I don't think I would be like offended you thought that way. I would just be like, yeah, that sounds like you've got some therapy work to do, pal. That's a pretty significant part of your life. Exactly. Is a dink. Yeah, I wouldn't say I value like all animals more than all humans. I just found

just your personal animals more than most humans in the world. than all humans. I just found just your personal animals more than most humans in the world. Yeah, I was pretty devastated when I put my cat down. I understand what you're saying. I had a really I had a good segue, but it was kind of I didn't want to I don't want to build a segue off of a deceased cat. Yeah, I'd rather not either. I'm with you. Now that I said it, I had now that it's been out there, like I have to say it. To play on Gary putting something down, I want to talk about it. Anthony refuses to put down a banana. I put it to him, would you rather shit himself or eat a banana?

He literally took shit himself as an adult over a banana. I'm like, God damn, his hatred and disgust for bananas. It's so real I wanted to like even follow up more like to put a price like what is the price like? Obviously, I don't think $100 would do it What a thousand would a thousand dollars get like a mouthful of banana would $10,000 get a full banana Like I am curious Anthony if you've you know, if we put you to the test about the banana anymore No to Anthony's credit like healthcare workers, they can tolerate a lot of file stuff. And he's like working in EMS right now. So I can only imagine the level of stuff he's seen. Yeah. Definitely

not getting much sleep. I imagine working that, uh, those long days. Um, so we got, we got the power pole video. Anybody get a chance to watch that the the review video the boys put out Yeah, I watched that today. Well, what do you tell joy was about and what you guys thought of it? It is a powerful like spec review a little bit of the history from Chuck's local pool and then they had from Chuck Vogelpol. And then they had Boog's perspective. And then also Mark Rosenberg, Deadliest Lift, talking about the ups and downs of it. And Mark Rosenberg's plan was to have everyone who's there that we can sign it. And then Boog's like pats himself on the back is bringing one to bring it back into notoriety for me. And sake he did.

Um, I don't know. It looks pretty cool. If the price point wasn't as steep as it was, it's like 400 bucks for the thing. I probably, I guess more like, like six delivered or something too. I think it's a little, and I mean, outside of when Tommy post his on Facebook marketplace in the future, like Facebook marketplace very often. Yeah, there was one. Well, I don't even know if it was the same thing. I think it's a similar

thing. It's like the Zercher only side of it where it has like the three like stacks on it. Yeah, that's more of a front squat thing though. Yeah. Yeah. They had one of those at super training. They didn't have the, the powerful though, but the powerful looks interesting. Like you could, like the one highlight really showed of a, it was like the long lever with the weight on the last, uh, 10, 17 and stuff and doing those like partial, uh,

deadlifts from the, um, like 90 degrees up to like 45. That looks like it'd be really beneficial actually. So I can see the, the merit merit of that but it's not worth the if it's six hundred delivered hell no i'd rather buy something else with that. I need to like i don't know it's like a bit almost a. For parity sake and for content say it was kind of worth it for him but i don't know like. Novelty is very high with that. Six hundred bucks is two Texas power bars. Yeah, like it might have been a little less, but I'm pretty sure it was. I thought they said it was five and then plus shipping, but maybe I misheard him. No, I think that they said it was 450, but right now they had a 10% off.

So it was 400 at checkout, but then they didn't even mention shipping. Was that code? And then also, yeah, code unpaid. And then also the lead time is like six weeks for the thing too. Yeah, because it was just a random like metal fabrication shop, I think that made it it wasn't like a like a gym equipment company necessarily. Right. Something I had never heard of. But yeah, that was I didn't I couldn't come up with a whole lot of general topics this week. Well, obviously, right last week's episode before we do that. Is there anything you saw in the Mastronomics world, Gary,

or in the lifting world that I missed? How's your knee sleeves doing? I'm not, yeah, there you go. I'm not powerlifting America. And everyone's up in arms about that. I know. It literally affects like 1% of power. I don't know so like out of the

call it 300 people I know personally the power lift it affects like 10 of them like yeah nerds this whole thing is like it's a niche sport and then like you're gatekeeping it even more like like it's a dying sport and then you're going to make it even harder for people to participate like good job like I do I think a lot of people that were saying that like SPD was behind it like I do agree SPD probably played a pretty big role in getting them to ban all the their competition essentially the the the IPF that is yeah but the IPF is for you you got the whole suit yeah yeah I actually I use I use SBD sleeves myself So like but also like I'm not a power guilty as charged and I'll never be in the IPF because like I'm Yeah

No, I don't even know what Canada's IPF is not a parallel in America in Canada I don't think probably no there wouldn't be it wouldn't be bad but unless it's you know what the fuck is there whatever bit nerf there's the CPL the Canadian powerlifting yeah I guess whatever the feeder to the IPF is it has to be something but like I'm never gonna do that yeah yeah it's if I ever power lift again because like again fucking nerd sport where they're all up in arms about You're on the orange juice to jury. There they're up in arms about a knee sleeve that they're that's banned from a federation. They'll never be in like it. I don't know. What are you mad about you're mad on other people's behalf. It's bozo shit. It's all it is.

Yes. Media for you. That's all it is. Yeah. Well, that's social media for you. Yeah. And that's why I like the only reason I know anything about it is because of the Discord. And then my Instagram started showing me people making fun of it. And then I was just like, I, I, I'm putting my phone down.

That's how that went. I'm going to go lift for a bit. Uh, yeah. And I have any other general topics. Like it was a bit of a. Yeah, it was, it was for like last week. We had like a million. It was a bit of a... Yeah, it was... I felt like last week we had like a million. It was just a...

Kind of like with everything. It's like even with supporting your members, it's like, till I have 31 week and then nothing one week basically. It's kind of... I feel like our general topics kind of feel like that sometimes where I looked at the notes today and I was just... Obviously, I'm a dink, so I was very busy. I had no time to look at the show notes until a little bit ago

So I looked and I'm like fuck we don't have anything in here under general office It's like racking my brain was like all right What the fuck happened this week like like nothing stood out usually I like add stuff periodically through the week that kind of stood out But it was like it was a low-key chill week Grant we probably forgot about like six really pivotal things that like we should talk about but I don't fucking remember the day anyone be listening live. Yeah, I mean the law that was we covered a lot of stuff last week as far as the drop. I mean people are getting them now. So I guess yeah.

Okay. So give us your 90 second review of the of your coaster there Gary. It's very high quality. I appreciate the print on it. Uh, as a, like big map, I was a little bit disappointed. It doesn't fit in the XL drink spotter. Uh, but overall it's a good product and I liked the, the thoroughness and the packaging with the, uh, double rubber bands.

So the history card didn't get destroyed or the stickers with this thing. Cause there was just like this sandwich with the other one and uh, rubber banded together in a mylar bag. As far as, what do you, the print itself is pretty crisp because I don't think they, they talked a decent amount of detail how they made it but they didn't get into the weeds about because they had to have like went and got it like, I don't know, it's not paint, it's some kind of, is it it an is it etched in it or is it just like a Like an embossed like what is the actual how would you consider the logo itself? It's not embossed. I almost want to say it's Screen printed or so I can see that but it might be like

It's printed on in some fashion I imagine, because it doesn't have any edges or anything like a sticker and you can, I just scratched at it a little bit and peeled it. So yeah, it's something that's like printed onto it. We just, we just ruined Gary's, uh, you know, co coaster for the sake of the podcast. I'm glad we were, there's three more in the package. Two. It was just these two extra two. Okay. So it was a two per. Yeah. And I was going to offer them up to you because you guys said on Nate's episode

you missed the drop. So you don't want to wait for the next drop. I'm good. I don't I'm trying to like rec like where would I put that in my house? Like they're not going to my living room. I don't I don't know where I put them in the basement. So I'm not sure if I'm a buyer. You're certified training facility banner. I don't know where I'd put them in the basement. So I'm not sure if I'm a buyer. You're a certified training facility banner.

I don't know. Sometimes I can't buy everything. Yep. So we'll see. I mostly just want the sticker and the card. The postage themselves. I would take the sticker off. It's like I got 20 stall mats, I'm good.

I do like, I do appreciate the bit and the whole thing, but I don't know I got Yeah that one. I want that card the Matthew Horstl card. Oh the the other artificial intelligence picture the AI pic They're all like Andrew Jackson true. Oh, yeah, I picked right now Yeah, oh ours ours was pretty ours actually talk, that was that should have been in general topics. I made that day. I one of us that was was pretty yours. The action figure. Yours looks. Yeah.

So so Joey's Joey's face doesn't look anything like it, but his beard and like his like his stature is very, very accurate. Yeah. Whereas mine, mine's just a bald dude that's skinnier than me. And I'm like, it's just like, because like in that picture I really dim, like I think I'm fairly clean shaven and I'm pretty freshly head cut, uh, which I haven't looked like that for probably a few years. Freshly head cut. Yeah. As soon as I said it, I was like, that's a, it's not wrong, but it's not right either. I mean, like it's the AI version of a haircut.

I talk phonetically sometimes, I guess. I went into it for a head cut. Yeah. But no, it was funny. That was the long... I've done a handful of chat chibit-y things. I've never... Usually it's like you tell it to make a picture. I've never actually had it... I think I've tried in the past where I'm never, but usually it's like you tell it to make a picture. I've never actually had it.

I think I've tried in the past where I'm like, make this in a cartoon and it like, it wouldn't do it or something. So when I saw it working for everybody else, I was like, I'll try it now. But it took like five, 10 minutes for that image to like, like, you know, populate. Like it was forever. It was like, this will take a long time. And I'm just like, just so I was afraid if I like, you know, went to another screen or something that wouldn't keep loading. So I just like sat my phone down and was afraid if I like, you know, went to another screen or something, it wouldn't keep loading.

So I just like sat my phone down and just had it go for at least five minutes. And I wasn't disappointed at least overall. I think you did the writing on your hat was a little wrong, but like everything else was. It actually said L-I-T-E. I was like, ah, well, okay. Lightweight, baby.

When you made that, like you had to enter each of the individual prompts, like here's a photo of this gentleman. I just did. Here's a picture of me. So I think what did I specifically, I think I sent it to our group chat last night. But it was basically, it was like, make this an action

figure, make this image an action figure. They are both podcasters. The one on the left likes Jaeger Meister, the one on the right likes Chickenager Meister, the one on the right likes chicken parm and that was it. I wish I wish it had utilized some podcast stuff. It didn't do anything with the podcast at all. But I was I was pretty impressed with it, honestly.

Yeah, no, I wasn't sure if there was just like a ready made like style one because those things like sweet social media super hard like the studio Ghibli one and now the action figure ones like everyone's doing those. I wasn't sure if there's like a preset thing of trending. I had so I had to Google like how to fucking because a lot of times those used to be apps like you'd have to go right download a random app that would steal all your images and shit which

I'm sure Chubby T does the same thing but because I had to like so then I finally found it was like oh it was just that you know that that chat app or whatever. I always want to say, I still, without really thinking, I still don't know, like off the top of my head, I can't tell you if it's GBT, GPT or GBT, like I know, but I just interchangeably call it the same thing. Cause I, it's not a word I've used enough in my life to like instinctively know what to say.

Um, but yeah, it was interesting. I got a new pair of barefoot shoes today. Oh The one you put your gift card towards you go with yeah, I went with the the osos the slip-ons Nice so that I can wear them I think I can wear them to work actually but just kind of nice because they look a little dressy And I can wear them on weekends when I don't have to wear pointed dress shoes. So pretty amped about that. They're little. They feel smaller than all my other ones. They ordered of the same size,

but I think I just need to break them in like any suede shoe. Right. Like, like left or right or like length toes. They feel a little boxier on the toes, but that could also just because I wear dress shoes all week and my toes are just mad at having to wear foot prisons and yeah, but I use my gift card towards that and Got the notification they're gonna be delivered today so I kept waiting for the customs clearance and all the other jazz that comes with that and instead I got it delivered and they

were sitting on my front porch and I was done in the gym and I was like Okay, like that's a rare occasion because the last time I think I had to pay an extra 30 bucks on my barefoot shoes. So I'll take it. Now, now, I can't post. No, it went DHL, which is how I like what I like about DHL is they'll text me in advance. So it'll I'll get a thing saying cleared customs. And then within 20 minutes, I get like an email or text that says you owe this much, would you like to prepay so we can just drop it off? So that's what I was waiting for.

And I didn't get that. So I guess it makes up for all the other times. I guess customs was just like, yeah, they're just shoes. Who cares? So they're gorgeous. So you said you were down in the gym. Are you a reset in a row boat or did you get that figured out already? Yeah, no, we, it took some work, but we we got the the gym back together today. Um,

yeah, I had this is the first heavy squat I've done actually pretty much since I had the flu back in February. And like, I think I missed an episode because of that flu that week, I think. Yeah, like that's how bad that was. And and I'm actually I'm actually back up close to regular weight finally You know in the middle or the first week of April back up to like close to my body weight again and Yeah, juggernaut was like you're gonna squat three plates, and I was like yeah, I am let's do it Hmm and I haven't I don't think I've done that actually since before last year Because the juggernaut strongman app does not have you do Heavy one or two web wraps right it has you do light

multi wraps Which isn't the word I'm looking for and But yeah first time I've had three plates on it actually told me to do 310 and I was like no we're Not doing 310 we're gonna go three plates cuz like forget you go back to regular juggernaut then, or was that just a random strongman? It's juggernaut strongman for now. I'm going to write out the 12-week program just to see how I feel about it. It did have a heavy squat, that you're saying, though.

But it's mostly been body. Oh, yeah, yeah. I didn't do what I did last time, where I was like, screw you, juggernaut. I feel like doing other stuff. Now, this time I was like, I'm going to do what you're telling me. And I don't think I hit depth, but I

had a second rep in me, which is wild, because I think 345 is my former one rep max. So 315 for a nine RPE is pretty fucking decent. Take it. And I think that's time for the Juggernaut ad read. It creeps up on you how effective Juggernaut is. If you really dial in and like give it honest feedback and stick to the programming.

I think at one of my meets last year, 150 on my bench was my opener. And then I go in and it's like, okay, you're gonna do 150 for three. And I was like, yeah, fucking right I am. And I did and had more in me. And I was like, what? I distinctly remember racking the third rep and yelling, what the fuck? Because it flew up so easy,

but it's just, it's all the overhead press. Cause the overhead press immediately translates to bench, but the powerlifting programming doesn't have you do overhead. So it's just, I don't get any carry over from overhead on bench. Oh, I apparently I do. I don't lose anything. Like I took a year off of benching basically, and I went down like eight pounds from my PR.

So like, and I, if I had spent more than six weeks benching, I probably would've been able to still hit like my PR, you know, a little more. So I wouldn't say it hurts, but I would say there's a decent amount of carryover, at least maintaining ability. Juggernaut Strongman will have you benching, but never anything heavy. And then out of nowhere, it goes, yeah, you're going to do this,

and you just do it. I think I've lost some strength on my deadlift, because I was doing elevated pulls or block pulls today and I was only able to do like 365 for a couple which is kind of wild because I normally have like a 450 pounds deadlift and now I'm like tired after a couple 365 so but that could also just have been after doing a heavy squat deadlifting sucks. Yeah, the fatigue. And then also like you're saying, I think on past episodes, it focuses more on like

volumes, like multiple repetitions of deadlift rather than like heavy singles and stuff. So that stands to reason too. And I want to log so bad. Every time I'm scrolling Instagram and I see somebody lifting a log, I'm so jealous. I had to carry. So I fucking had to carry. My coach had log on me, had log pressed the other day, and I was like, I could just do the Cadillac bar in the basement if I really want to,

because it was fucking 20 degrees outside. I'm not going to the goddamn garage. So I ended up with the new log, I was like, the Titan one's about 13 inches, even though it says it's 12 inches in diameter, and the new one I have is like a true 12 inch log, because I know it a solid inch inch and a half like less diameter than the other one even though they're both Quote-unquote 12 inches so I was like, let me carry this one down and see if I have a little more clearance between the joists So I was able to clean and press clean and strict press between the floor joist

But I couldn't do it There was no way I could have done any kind of a push or even wear heels But I at least was able to get my volume in on log. So that was interesting. The shittiest thing you had me do that day those I had to do sandbag picks which I've never done. So like like three sets of five of just like, you know, picking it lapping it and then just standing up with it, but no triple extension or no like shoulder bad like overbarring just literally just pick it up

and stand up, you know, erect with it. Those sucked. I was like, this is this is shitty. And then to segue into that today, I saw Andrew Garrison Jake had Jake has all his guys doing the other programs doing some sandbag squats. And I was like, I saw that in the video. And I was like, that's worth trying. I've never done one of those. So I made the mistake of just like at the end of a deadlift session today where I was completely smoked and my hamstrings, I could barely feel them. I walk over, I grab

my 175 bag. I, you know, I pick it up pretty easy. I go to squat down with it. I get like, you know, I don't know, halfway, not, not, I get like two or three inches into into my descent. I'm just like, Nope, just drop it. I was like, there's no way this feels horrible. I did, I did go back and pick up the a hundred just for some like form. I just wanted to like feel it. And I was like, Oh I was like, I could definitely get the heavier weight if I actually just attempted it with effort, but a sandbag squat seemed very unpleasant. Okay, so quick five minute sidebar here.

Gary, do you use a sandbag? I do not. Well, yeah, I do not currently. The only sandbag I used in the past were Ultimate Sandbag brand, which is like a duffel bag style sandbag. Oh yeah, I do not currently. I, the only sandbag I used in the past were ultimate sandbag brand, which is like a duffel bag style of sandbag. Oh yeah, I've seen those. Yeah, I have two of those. I have 25 and 50. Okay. So we all know the whole joke is I use pea gravel for two of my sandbags. Okay. And there I have the bells of steel one, which is around a hundred pounds. And I have the inukshuk, which I've filled to about a hundred and six, a hundred and ten. Um, first, first thing I had to actually take the sandbag downstairs that

Morgan brought upstairs and I go, I bend steps on, yeah. So I bend down to pick it up and it's leaning against something and that thing falls on my head. So I'm already frustrated and then my kid comes and stands behind me and goes, Daddy, what are you doing? And I'm like, get out of the way. And Morgan goes, move so daddy can pick that up. And then she moves and my other kid comes and goes, What did you guys say and stands right behind me on my second attempt. So never been happy to be a day. I go, I look, they're both in the kitchen.

I grab the thing that fell on my head and I throw it across the living room. It was the back trunk of my car. I just yeet that thing and I got the sandbag back downstairs. But when you fill a sandbag, because I have a 150 pound bag and after doing a bag over bar last two weeks ago or something with a hundred pound. It was too easy. I want more weight Do you dry out your sand first? And there's like mixed if you go to like There's a couple I've done a fair amount of research on this and like people that sell you the bag wants you to put dry Sand in there, but like most people don't so but I would recommend if you put wet sand in it and you

weigh it, weigh it again a month later because you probably lost 10 pounds. Um, I actually need to weigh my one 75 cause I, I put in frozen sand because my in-laws brought me like the shittiest sand for Christmas. That was like bricks of frozen sands. But it was all I had at the time. It's like, fuck it. I'm just going to fill that a bitch up. And then I have not reweighted yet So are you not worried about mold because when I do the pea gravel I laid out on a tarp I wash it I let it dry in the Sun I spin it so that it dries on all sides So like I have minimal dust and minimal mold and minimal moisture

Concern is like how do I dry out sand? That's probably a good idea, but I don't know. That's my concern is like, how do I dry out sand? Because it's not as easy to pick up as like, you just, you know, you lose some sand. You lose way more sand than you lose pea gravel. So that's my main concern. I'm gonna buy sand, because I'm gonna sandbag this bag. Like, I'm gonna have a sandbag and my pea gravel bags,

because I wanna test the difference. Maybe I'll make a video of that. But I don't wanna put moldy sand in my expensive rain fed bag. I've had the Bells of Steel bag for over a year now. So Big Chris Mark won it in the competition. Actually, I probably had it for a year and a half. So I think he won that in a Strongman show we did together the cancer charity one and then our friend Lucas friend of the podcast actually Got it from Chris took it to a beach near his house and filled it up with sand from the beach

So I so it was wet all year because it had like wet beach sand and it wet free beach sand at least But if you open it does it smell of I think it I've I added like so I because okay so that one specifically I think I added so I think I got into a sandbag like OCD thing like six months ago so and I was like wait a moment I was like all this fuckers only like 141 or something so I did fill that up to 150 even and I didn't have any issues with smell or anything when I opened it up. That's my main concern of sand. It was wet. If you put wet sand in it, I will say that like my sand, like anytime I like let, anytime I would move it from like wherever it was at the previous session, it was wet on the ground. But like, so it was like moisturing, moisturing, moisturing.

God damn, we are butchering words tonight, but I'm gonna go, moist, moisturing sounds right, but it's not a word, but it was osmosis-y. Moisturizing? Yeah, oh, we're gonna get in shape when this one person. No, moisturizing is not, I wouldn't say, because I'm moisturizing is not. Sweating, like it was, It was sweating. Yeah, it was,

sweating would be the right word, because it was like, my stall mat would be like, this perfect circle of, you know, moisture. So, I don't know, I think you're getting there. So I'll take my scale to the lumber yard or to the landscaping yard, get as much top sand as I can that's dry and just

fill that to 150 pounds. All right. What about putting like a tarp inside to make it like impregnable from moisture? Well, I would try it. It will literally never dry, I think. Yeah, I'm in a basement, right? It's already from moisture. Well, I would try it. Then it will literally never dry, I think. Yeah, I'm in a basement, right?

It's already high moisture. I'm thinking if I do I solve that every so often to kill any like surface bacteria, just I'll just throw silica packages in. Yeah, I'm not worried about mine and mine definitely had wet sand in them. Right? Yeah, well, you can also buy more expensive sand from the hardware store that theoretically would be dry and stored inside. But it's never it's never dry. Yeah, that's where I

got the pea gravel. It was soaked. Should we rate last week's episode? Yeah, let's get to it. I'll wait for the discord to school me on this one. Gary, do you have a chance to watch it, buddy? The listen to it? What do you think? Yeah, that you think yes good choice that was a good episode I was expecting a little bit more of the home gym the home gym reviews but didn't really get into like the expansion over the course of the year but that's fine like that it was it was interesting I think the other parts of the episode outside of the title topic were pretty entertaining. I would give it five out of five entitled

Facebook marketplace flakes ruining your day. Yeah, that's what I was gonna read. Yeah, I enjoyed it. There was a lot of I think this was the episode where he talked about maybe an orange juice, right? Because I think when I think I touched base on that lot of, I think this was the episode where he talked about me being an orange juice, right? Cause I think I touched base on that last episode because I had just listened to it. But hearing it again last Sunday and having Stephanie listen to it,

I was, it was very amusing. Tommy ranting on his marketplace adventures and like anyone that sold anything at marketplace could like feel that pain and that suffering and that frustration because marketplace is accessible and if you're not thick skinned, it gets running your nerves and I do get, if I'm not making at least $100 off something now,

it's like, for me, I'm gonna sell something if I can make like 40 or 50 bucks, but like, because if I had to, if the $100 was a limit, I would just end up throwing shit away, like too much shit away. But I do got on my way to not sell a whole lot on marketplace at all anymore. I try to like give stuff away or just throw it away. But, uh, it's, it's, it's, yeah, it is very, I

fucking hate working. I hate selling stuff on marketplace. It's just, it's miserable. Um, the, uh, the vintage car dash talk was kind of funny cause like I've never outside of my wife's car. Like I drive a, my car is older than Tommy's miserable. Yeah. Um, the, uh, the vintage car dash talk was kind of funny. Cause like I've never outside of my wife's car, like I drive a, my car is older than Tommy's car, so there's not a single power control. I have, there's no power windows, there's no power doors, there's no locks. I literally,

every single thing is manual on my car. Um, so I don't want to upgrade my car to a new one cause it's going to be so foreign, but so I can definitely relate to anyone that's like, Oh, I wish everyone's like, Oh, which we should have the least throwback cars. I was like, you mean my daily? Like it makes me, it makes me feel old that they're talking about cars that are 20 years old and like, Oh yeah, I guess my car is damn near that old. But for all those reasons, I will go ahead and give it five out of five, five out of

five. Is this still available? I have, I reactivated my Facebook account for two reasons to be involved in any community events for my kids and Facebook marketplace. And I have yet to buy a single thing on Facebook marketplace. And it's gen honestly in my area, like you go and you look and they're selling the weights that I bought at a dollar a pound for a dollar 50 a pound. And you're like, but I like, I can buy those brand new for a dollar. Like,

what, what are you thinking? And then they have just unnamed power bars everywhere. And you know, I messaged the one guy and I'm like, who made this? Cause it looked like a Kabuki bar that he was selling for $200. And if it was a Kabuki deadlift bar for $200, I was going to get it. And then he's just like, I don't know. How do you have it? Like, I just generally ask, like, how do you have that?

You don't know who made it. You need pictures of the end caps. Oh, I know. I could have, but like, at that point I was like, it's not a kabuki because nobody accidentally has a kabuki. Right? So at that point I was just like, okay, thank you. I was just checking to see if it was a specific brand. and that's like the only thing I've ever done on Facebook marketplace

I have a couple things I want to sell but I think at this point I'll just donate them to value your I know you Well enough you would not handle You'd literally like it would be the the rant that Tommy went on would literally just be like a would be the rant that Tommy went on would literally just be like a one tenth of what you would do on this episode oh yeah right if you sold one thing on marketplace because you would be so mad at that rate the things I the things I want to sell what I paid for them versus what I would make back I would be losing money I just want them out of my gym yeah they can go to the they can go to the shop yeah no got it no I'm not you lose your

shit Joey yeah those can go those can go to the religious shop I'll tell them I paid a dollar a pound that's what they are brand new sell them for 50 cents a pound you'll have them out the door in a minute enjoy right like that's essentially what I would do at this rate I don't recall much about the episode, to be honest, except for that rant there and the we used to be a proper country, say others. What was the we used to be the top? What was the work? So it was the car. What else? I don't know. Smoking. Smoking section. Like, do you guys remember? Well,

did Canada have smoking section? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Probably probably longer than we did too. I imagine too. Yeah. Yeah. I think like 2008 I think it was at least because it was a it was a state by state thing down here, I believe. So like, West Virginia, I want to say, maybe you know, had to be before 2008. Because there was no smoking when I was working in 2000. So it had to be like the late 90s then because yeah, I sure were. I my first job in food service was been like 2001. And there was definitely no smoking then. So we had smoking sections.

And then they went to this thing where you could have a smoking section, but it needed to be like walled. And then we used to call that the zoo. So Tim Horton specifically built an entire section of their restaurants where it would be a glass filled aquarium for the smokers. And it had to have its own separate ventilation. And it would be like if you were going in, you'd be like, haha, look at the zoo, like you would laugh at those people in there. think my mom's boss built an entire section. And then a year later, they said, you can't have it anymore. Like they, they completely screwed around up here. Uh, you know, but we used to be a proper country where you could just smoke next

to nonsmokers and kill your kids. Um, well, you know what it was? Cause I remember you saying the zoo jogged in my memory. Cause Keith, you mentioned your first job in it, but my first job was working at a Walmart and then the break room had what Joe is calling the zoo. It had like a separate break room for people who wanted to smoke and it looked like a, an interrogation room from a crime movie or whatever. Just everyone would go in there and smoke and then had like huge industrial fans on the ceiling to pull it out of the building.

And ours were all plexiglass. Every Tim Hortons built them out of clear plexiglass. And that's, yeah, you just had no, you had the zoo where you could go and see all the smokers behind glass. It was really funny. I think you could smoke in bars when I first, now I'm, I don't even need to like go back and like look. I think the food service went no smoking well before bars because I remember vaguely being in bars as a minor with like people smoking legally in Canada. I know that I wasn't legally allowed to drink before and I didn't drink before I was legally allowed but They neither. Yeah, they didn't They got they got rid of the smoking sections before that for sure

right because I remember being a kid going in there and that's when they had built the zoo and then they built they said you could smoke on the patios but not if there was an umbrella and or a ceiling and then they said no you just can't smoke on any licensed grounds so yeah yeah they went really weird up here because they did it in phases where they were just and it was a big thing people people got really upset about it. And there's a whole argument against the public's fear at that point. Right? If you're smoking, you don't need to smoke around me. You know, like that type of thing, right? If I'm smoking a cigar, I'm not smoking in people's faces, smoking in my backyard. And if my kids get into my downwind, I move because I don't want them.

And like it's, but it's just a whole secondhand smoke thing yeah yeah I do want to say there was one thing that I think I made Tanner laugh pretty hard when I said you you can pry my heated steering wheel out of my cold dead hands yeah he commented that was a really funny comment because I remember buying my car and all I wanted was Apple Play that was a really funny comment because I remember buying my car and all I wanted was Apple Play. That was the only thing I cared about was I wanted a car with a touchscreen with Apple Play.

Apple, Apple Play? CarPlay. CarPlay. Yeah, CarPlay. And it came with heated seats in the steering wheel. And then I was like, I don't need those. Those are luxuries. And now my heated steering wheel is on every time I drive. It is the best thing about that. It's so much better,

especially in the winter, because you've got the leather steering wheel and it's cold as shit. And then it just heats up slowly and then gets so hot, you can't handle it. And then it shuts itself off automatically. My wife hates it. She, she won't even turn it on when she's driving the car. The heated seats I could do without. I don't really care. They're a luxury, but the heated steering wheel is like every car I get is going to have one of those if it has nothing else. Is Morgan a full-fledged driver? Am I misremembering? She learned how to drive recently, right? She's still learning. We're going to get there. Good deal. We're gonna we're working on parking right now nice We'll keep getting new laptops for Morgan learn how to drive

I was full tilt gonna drop like two grand last weekend because this thing was acting up and you know, she's been good Well, I literally like something inside of it, some fan was clogged or something because I turned it on and it sounded like a diesel engine and I turned it on and off like five times. Tried to take it apart and couldn't figure out how to actually pry it apart and I didn't want to break anything so I took it out and I didn't have any condensed air so the old air compressor did good and I don't know she's been nice and she's been purring like a kitten ever since. but obviously she is on her last leg. And I would like to go with an Apple computer, I think just for the ability

to go, she gets off my phone to my computer a lot easier, but I don't know. That's a, I should do it sooner than later because shit ain't going to get any cheaper with tariffs. So I'm not kind of concerned that a $1,500 computer is going to be three grand in six months. If I dick around and wait. Yep. Stop dick around. Stop waiting. And yeah, having a Mac computer with an iPhone. Like, yeah, you'll see you make your life so much easier because like you're responding to you can put your phone down and you're responding to everything on your computer. Like it. Yeah. As I message. Yeah. FaceTime. All right. Well, that's a big, big...

You don't even have to airdrop. You don't even have to airdrop between your phone and your laptop. It'll just back up to the iCloud or whatever. Yep. I share this podcast through our iMessage chat. I record it on Zoom and I share the files through there, through the Apple Drive. Through the iCloud Drive. Like it's all perfect. So anyway, yeah, let's get the guess on the horn. Well, let's see if we'll do an ad reforce first. All right.

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No, so. Yeah. Yeah,, today we have the origin story. Today I have the luxury of hearing that sitting at the waterfalls in Sioux Falls where we all finally asked what the hell. So yeah, we've got Big Gary known in the Discord. My real name is Brad or Brankin and yeah, welcome to Unpaid and Underrated. Thanks for having me on. It's been a while. It's been a while.

Thank you. Keith didn't say it so I was waiting for somebody to do it. My't say it, so I was waiting. Sorry, I was like in my phone was blown up. So I mean, I'll just try to distract. Oh, you're so important. My phone is I'm so very busy. Yeah, he's very busy. Fuck you guys. They say big size, Mr.

Empire State, very busy. All right. Let's get to the first. I'll actually ask you about the big Gary thing at some point. But let's get through all the standard stuff. What brought you to Mastnomics? It was coming off of my last car-lucky meet in last March. And my coach is like, we're going

to go into a hypertrophy block. I want you to gain like a good 25 pounds from where you're at. And I was just trying like racking my brain trying to come up with ways to gain weight conveniently. And I guess the search engine was paying attention and suggested the Mastodonics chicken bake challenge. I've been eating at Costco for lunch for the past year. Still haven't gained any weight. I've gained maybe 10 pounds. That's, that's about it.

But that was what I was before I cut for the meat anyway. But your sodium levels are just a doctor's. My blood pressure is a nightmare. sodium levels are just a doctor's. Yeah, driven roof. My blood pressure is a nightmare. But yeah, I think that's what got me in the door. And then it was maybe like a gym tour video on YouTube. And I started listening to the podcast after that.

And then it was the build up to the Lyft Hard Libby Z2. They had mentioned how it sold out. And then being crew is probably the best way to do it. And it just sounded like a hell of a good time. And signed on the line, joined up. And for my shot to be in the Lyft Hard Libby Z3, was able to do it. So I'll see you guys in July. But yeah,

that's what brought me to crew. And also the the supporting supporting members and all the stupid like Midwest colloquialism like put one in the old vice like just the cheesy stuff like that. Yeah, that's that's what got me in the door made me laugh and supporting supporting members seem like a cool thing. Well, we've got you at Big Gary in the Discord. What is your Instagram for people who might want to figure out who you are? The personal one where I'm the most active as far as responding to texts

and stories and stuff like that is at NPC underscore Gary. And then my training log on if you want to see the lifting videos is or would and crushing debt all one word. Oh, good. I follow all of those. That was fun. That's usually a fun. Wait a minute. I do follow you. So yeah, I saw you hold up your cards earlier. You want to hit us with your stats there on your on your big Gary business cards? Yeah, I'm crew number 422. Since June 5 of 2024.

And then I am at eight achievements on the Hall of Fame. This tonight is number eight nice and then July I'm gonna get quite a few more. So I'm gonna jump I think into the double digits Still a little shy a cup level though, it sounds like you have to you have to yeah Or 22 might be in them I think we've had a Who was I don't know for 22 is definitely a you might be one of the highest you're, you're in the top, uh, you know, 69% of higher, uh, you know, membership numbers, but your presence. I'm just me. I'm off by two.

Yeah. Four to four 20 would have been, would have been amusing. Yeah. Your presence at crew falls is the reason such a high number is on here too. Right. So, um, what is one piece of massonomics merch that you see some of us wearing that you wish you had of the attire? I would say the blaze orange beanie with massonomic in that you were

wearing at crew falls Joey. I want that. Cause, uh, like I wasn't even aware that was a product and, uh, when I lived in and I'm a can that you're wearing it. I want that because. Like I wasn't even aware that was a product and when I lived in Anchorage, I thought it was fucking red. There was a like a. This is me on her. You thought it was. Fucking everyone in the goddamn.

Did this work? But I was ready until someone posted it next to something red. And it was a whole fucking thing. Oh, that's just my ass. Because my friend bought me it for free and I would have picked the fucking orange one if I knew it was orange. That's not going to the big beanie guy, but that's one thing that speaks to me. It's because it's an orange.

Yeah, I ended up buying the second round of beanies. So I have the gray one that has the Masonomic script on it, but it fits my kids. It does not fit me. Like, I can only wear it to like a certain, like it's very small. So I think that I actually rarely wear that one because it just feels like it's strangling my head slowly. Save it for if you want to become a barista. What? I know, but like, damn it. Are you certified over there? I am a certified training facility.

Yes. Yeah, buddy. I recently had to relocate, so I may have to re certify. I switched apartment numbers. Well, you didn't certify your apartment number, did you? No, just just my gym. But the whole joke is kind of moot now that I'm in a different unit. Oh, because the gym name is Elmo basement and I used to be on the second floor and I'm on the first floor. I guess it still works. Yeah, it still works.

All right. So when you were getting ready to come on the podcast and you had to send out the questionnaire to a handful of people. How did, uh, how'd you explain you and you to them or, or anyone that, why you, you literally took today off of work, I believe, didn't you? Cause you've been, you were trying to get on. I've been trying to get you on for three or four months now. And, uh, I'm like, I have this, I have this night and I have this night. And you're like, Nope, can't do that. Can't do that. And I was like, you finally were just like, God damn it. I was gonna take the day off. And I was like, all right,'t do that. Can't do that. And I was like, you finally were just like, god damn it, I was going to take the day off. And I was like, all right, that's dedication.

Let's do it. Yeah. So I usually go to the gym Sunday, Monday, and then Thursday, Friday. And then Wednesday nights and Sunday mornings, I have a personal training plan. And I was also doing PRN work at a skilled nursing facility on Sunday.

So that's part of why I was so busy. But yeah, I took the day off. And when I sent the questionnaire out, I just said like, hey, could you please fill this out? I'm going to be a guest on a podcast. I'd really appreciate your help in answering these questions so they have a little bit more to go off of. And I didn't realize how much of a ghost I was online. answering these questions so they have a little bit more to go off of and I

didn't realize how much of a ghost I was online I didn't have any any information to go off of the Instagram stories I guess you guys got me back on or whatever we eventually got some stuff for you I definitely I'm sorry if I I died I think I'd have I've pestered you a handful of times cause like your people sucked up until you happened to pester. Yeah. Like, like I was like three days out and I look and I'm expecting to be like eight submissions and there's one I'm like, what the fuck Gary? Like we're, we're, we're pretty good at podcasting, but like,

I can't work off of this. And it was, and it wasn't a really well-filled, it wasn't a ample well filled it wasn't a ampoule ample filled amp amp ampoule is not the right word ample and amp there was not an ample amount yeah it wasn't completed yeah yeah and then like the one of the guys that I had fill it out last minute like he was going through his own like personal stuff and so it felt really bad sending it to him but that's why I only had it sent out to two people initially and then the third guy joined in last minute it's like hey could you do me this all because I know he's not working right now we appreciate you getting it back to us that'll work it

all worked out good well I think I'm gonna hit you with some least fun most fun because it'll kind of play into one of the other questions I skipped here. So that's good shirt. Hey, nice. I can't believe you put that over your singlet. You have to you have to have so much nipple sweat going on right now wearing that singlet with no undershirt. Oh, God.

You know, dude, I've got two fans going right now, and it's like, yeah, me and Keith. All right. Gary, I got to get a really serious question for you here. Are you familiar with least fun, most fun? I am. I tell you what is the least fun or the most fun about one thing. Yeah. One or the other. I can only choose one. Yeah. I only choose one or the other.

I don't elaborate on either one. No, I got you. I tell you the least fun and most fun thing about a given topic. Perfect. So I hope this lands cause I don't have the answer to that question, but I'm gonna say this is gonna work out.

So, big Gary, least fun, most fun, living in California. Least fun? If you just wanna lead, so sorry, so lead with have you lived, is California always been home or is it said? Yeah, yeah, I was born in California and I've only spent three years outside of California. Okay, so that helps.

And I'm 40 years old, so. It's been a good amount of time in California. I'll be 40 in a couple months so basically three forty year olds here wearing the same fucking shirt and basically have the same haircut These least fun most fun living in California least fun, most fun living in California. Least fun in California is like people losing their shit when it rains because we barely get weather here. And so anytime you get less than an inch of rain, like people forget how to drive and all the small talk becomes like, Oh, you see the rain. We really need it. Like just the most asinine stuff.

Um, but that's, that's the Midwest. Like you become a dad and you just, you go look outside except for that rain that flooded my basement, usually go outside and you go, we needed this. I honestly rather talk about weather with someone that I don't really want to talk to than any other thing else. Cause like, I don't want to hear any personal story about you whatsoever. Let's just talk about the weather for two minutes and then carry on. The weather is like guaranteed small talk.

Yeah. That's, that's what files the nerdy enough. My bar bill. I hate small talk. Oh, me too. But like, I'd rather it be rehearsed and right. Like it's, there's, it's called phatic gestures. I know I've said it, me too. But I'd rather it be rehearsed. And it's called phatic gestures. I know I've said it on here before. Phatic gestures are those things that we

do to essentially lubricate social interactions. Yeah, lubrication. Yeah, I know. And it is one of those, how about the weather? It's the letter Kenny thing. Nice breaker. Yeah. Like how, like, how are you now? Good. And you not so bad. And that's the thing, right? That we do that every time just to get this going. And it's one of those,

like I'd rather do that than have somebody turn to me and be like, Hey, how about that insert political thing? And I'm just like, I don't know you. I don't want to talk to you. you I don't want to tell you yeah like I don't want it oh yeah so I think I have a hatred of them and a small appreciation of them because like you're right it's the weather has been yeah yeah yeah that's it yeah yeah it's like a first degree burn rather fourth rather than a fourth degree like this sucks, but it could suck more All right, most fun most fun is

It allows me to not have a car I can bike to work every day no, we got lots of bike questions for you, sir questions for you, sir. Nice. Cause you look like you ride a bike right now. Right now with the headband and the glasses, like family guys drawing you, I think as the bike guy at some point. Hey chat, does this guy ride a bike? It just, it's unanimous. Yes.

I forget his birth name, but his riding name was the pirate. Uh, he was like a notorious like party boy cyclist. Uh, we got popped not well for PEDs, but also for cocaine. He was banned from racing because he got a cocaine in the system, but he's a pretty legendary guy personality and professional cycling. Nice. I don't know if that was a non sequitur. Did you? Okay. I'm Tony. Yeah.

Okay. So I'm going to add cocaine to unpaid and underrated, I guess. I don't know why that came up, but okay. Mysterious white powder. So we got a good bit of, you know, crew. Well, I wouldn't, well, some crew and then some of your buddies just use the Instagram rather than the questionnaire. So we can kind of get into some of these. Some of them could be quick hitters too. So Big Burmy wanted to know how you like his new j-cups. The j-cups are very nice. The UH&W is very thick. It's like a very nice sandwich j-cup.

I use it for my bench setting just because of the design of the cradle, I can just hit the upright and it sinks. Yeah. Yeah, I think I saw his regular OG ones, right? The ones that Tommy has. Yeah, but mine are like unfinished. They're like a raw. Oh, nice. Yeah, it's really, it stands out against the black of the road grab and everything. Sweet. Pretty pleased with that purchase.

Would buy again. I plan to buy more stuff with him. It's just. Not right now, because I just moved in everything. Oh, yeah, I feel that. Um. There's so many things about biking. I don't even know if like they all kind of.

I'm going to. Know each other. I'm going to move some of them done paying underrated. So yeah, I'm not going to ask you to watch as I watch as I click them off. Um, I want to know. And this is obviously geared towards my interests a little bit. Um, what is the story with you and typo negative? I used to listen to them.

Like from soup to nuts, like you want to know how I got into the band or just how I met them. So she bless S H S C H B L E S says, ask him about, no, wait, hold on. Yeah. Ask him about the interactions with type O negative. Okay. Okay, so I've seen them or saw them in concert twice. And the first venue was the Palladium in Los Angeles and the second one was the Hollywood House of Blues. And I've been to both those venues several times. And Hollywood House of Blues, where is the tour buses have

to park on the street. So your probability of meeting the band is very high at that venue if you have the patience to wait after the show. And so I just hung out after the show and waited to meet the band. I think Josh was the first one out of the back, got a picture with him. And then there was like a former Marine

and his little brother that I just was talking with while we're waiting and he like photobombed the photo. So it's just me and this total stranger with Josh. It's something I have from that night and then I think it was Johnny came out next and he had like this girl wrapped around his arms. Um, and I kept waiting for Kenny. I didn't see Kenny. So I don't know when or where he left the building from. Uh, but Peter came out like at 3 AM. This was like hours after everyone else.

And he, uh, like the crowd side is diminished considerably. It was probably like eight of us at this point. There was a couple who actually flew from Australia for the show. They were there. And then there was this girl who had like a C4 Corvette and she wanted to show it to Peter. And she like popped the hood

so you could check out the car and stuff. And he's like, oh, the internal combustion engine. That's the way of the future. That's such a, yeah. Okay. I like it. Yeah. And, uh, we're just hanging out.

Everyone's getting pictures of him. And then like all the girls are obviously sitting on his lap taking photo or for their photo. And so I do the same thing. And I was fat at the time. Like I was a hundred pounds heavier and he just grabs him by the jowls. And he's like, same thing. And I was fat at the time. Like I was a hundred pounds heavier and he just drives him by the jowls and he's like, this is a face only a mother could love. And only Peter can say that to you, right? Like, yeah, all right. Thank you. Seven foot

monster. Like that's, yeah. And I had this, uh, uh, 84 Olympics, uh, CCCP, like the Soviet, uh, USSR Adidas branded shirt that I wore to the show, uh, just cause of all the like iconography and stuff, the Soviet Union era propaganda and stuff. And I had, uh, the three members of the band signed it and, uh, I took it home and I was still living at home at the time. I think I was like your mom watched it. Didn't not. Yes, she watched it.

Well, no actually do you want better? I don't know that she watched it. I don't have confirmation that she watched it. She threw it away because of the red scare. She didn't like the communist imagery of it and threw it out. She didn't want any communist crap in her house and got rid of the shirt. And that, that's a huge regret. So all I have are the photos from that night.

And it's not even like the master photos. It's like the photo is a, a photo, cause it's the stuff I uploaded to like photo book it for my space. And so like the resolution is really low and can't get like good quality prints off them or anything. We're going to need that picture of you and Peter. Okay, yeah. I'll send that over. Yeah, that's going to have to be sent to me or Keith.

Sure thing. Because that's dope. But I've never met Peter Steele. Yeah, that was cool. I've unfortunately seen him naked, but I have never met him. I've seen the playgirl spread to I had a bunch of their songs downloaded off fucking like cuz I like or whatever the fuck or Limewire like 30 years ago, but I couldn't probably name. I don't think I don't think I've had a they're definitely not in a playlist I listen to currently but I do remember there being like a swing and dick thing when he was you know

modeling or whatever but a Swing and dick the dude was a king can But if you go on Etsy and it starts type of negative or Peter steel all the stuff is just like repurposed playgirl images Yeah, like on a candle like chill out, ladies. Or if you're going to take the I like Goyles perspective dudes that were hitting them up after the fact. Yeah.

So this might be the first time Big Matt's submitted a question that was podcast worthy here. So it was actually a pretty good one. So Gary, how many story likes do you think you've done on your time on IG? Oh, man, I don't know if there's a way to tabulate that. Like I would like to publish that. But I do spend the like button. I do not.

That's why I'm just you're always the first. Yeah, I'm just terminally online. I have nothing else going in my life. Like so. If like provided I'm not with a patient at work or something, I have Instagram open and I'm just like refreshing doom scrolling, like just trying to find fill the void in my life. What does the story have to be to not get a like?

Because I got me uh you like like a solid three-quarters of stuff I think I've not ever I don't know I'd have to now do you like everything I pose I don't remember but Like what what instinctively makes you lift your thumb up and let it just expire and then not like it or or swipe right? usually like and then not like it or swipe right? Usually, it's gonna be like a poor connectivity thing because I've been getting an error a lot where it's like link could not, or like could not be sent or whatever because of connection issues.

But the stuff I intentionally do not like, and I'll just skip the story, are kind of things I like about Mastinomics. It's just like it's a safe space. There's nothing like too real going on. And so if it's a story that kind of like burst my bubble a little bit, like that's not getting a like. Cause this is my escape.

Yeah. I think that was one of the most successful memes I ever posted on Instagram, where it was the happy Spider-Man Peter Parker, right? And it was like, oh, a lifting account. And then it goes Spider-Man Peter Parker, right? And it was like, oh, a lifting account. And then it goes to the sad Peter Parker and it's like fucking political opinions. I was just like, ah.

It's like, oh, hey, you're pretty strong. Hey, I met you at the last lifting thing. And then they're just like, by the way. And you're like, damn it. That's not why I'm here. What the hell is team eggplant? So. Well, it's been 20, March of 21.

This is the whole reason I'm on Instagram is, uh, for the, I was part of this mentorship, yeah, for the eggplant, for the likes of the eggplant. I was part of this mentorship, yeah, for the eggplant, for the likes of the eggplant. I joined this mentorship and the team I was part of for said mentorship elected to use Instagram as the means of communicating to each other. And so that mentorship, And so that mentorship, we had to come up with like individual smart goals and execute them and also like critique each other.

And then it was kind of like a debate team, whereas like, you know, I'm going to do this. And then Keith or Joey would come along and say, Hey, you're not going to accomplish that goal because of X, Y, and Z. And you have to retort like, oh, no, I will do it. And these are the things I've thought out and why I'll be able to be a success at this given thing. And funnily enough, like I, after the fact, like two years later, I asked all the guys on Team Eggplant and also from the entire like mentorship I was like so did you guys accomplish all your goals you set out to do because I accomplished nothing and they're like yeah we all did it and it was like oh so I'm just a huge piece of shit then oh smart goals god you brought me back to work, measurable, attainable, realistic, and time sensitive, right? That's

what smart is. Yeah. Measurable, actionable or attainable. Yeah. Yeah. I hate that. Do you want to tell the listeners of what you do for a living? Any, anything you want to share on that? Anything you want to share on that? Physical therapist assistant I've been one for the past four years Currently I work in pediatrics and also do PRN or On-call kind of work for a skilled nursing facility Previously worked outpatient orthopedics and vestibular

facility previously works outpatient orthopedics and vestibular How's that so physical I know what I've gone to physical therapy like I've gone to like, you know You're your local place and got like your ankle your knee worked on and just did the you know The they're taking away too many clients and they're like they just bounce around to the fact that you should pediatric I've never seen a kid their Pediatric I guess elaborate on what do you mean by pediatric physical therapy? That's a new concept to me. This is a sub specialty within the profession. It's just any patient and at least in the city of California under the age of 18. Oh, okay. So birth to 18. So when my daughter broke her arm and they removed the cast, they said, if you you don't if you don't see regular movement after 30 days we're gonna have to put her into PT and

that would be where probably pediatric physical there I guess when I think of pediatric I was thinking like like like five-year-olds not like okay anyone it depends on yeah it makes I's like only I got you. That was my only nine and under. Like I was just confused. Yep. Now that tracks any or you had any plans on going back to school to be full blown or pretty happy with like where you're at with that.

Like as far as I totally. No, because it's there to like distinct jobs. And to go back to school and basically starting over. Gotcha. And then at the end of the day, like your job responsibilities are pretty much the same, like as far as treating patients, that's going to be unchanged. But as a PT, you're gonna do like the differential diagnosis and establish like the plan of care, evals and the three evals, progress nodes, discharge.

Like it's just a lot more paperwork. And it's like a hundred grand to start, to go to a PT program, like a DPT school. The optics, like the financial side of it just don't make sense because of the PTA, you make like two thirds of the DPT salary. And so like what I'm doing, where I do personal training on the side and also pick up shifts, like you can compensate for the pay disparity between the two. Makes sense. Let's I, I, I was reviewing this earlier and now it's kind of jumping out at me. You're lifting history.

So I'm going through this and there's a lot of names in here and some of them look like names I'm supposed to know. So you've trained under some pretty important people. I'd like to think so. I mean, that's kind of, I've just been fortunate. So I've been lifting about 20 years now because I started lifting shortly after my weight loss journey.

But it wasn't until probably 2015 maybe, so maybe like 10 years ago, I met my ex and she was really into CrossFit at the time and I was just starting out as a personal trainer and I was like, I don't know my head from my ass as far as Olympic weightlifting and we were living at the time a beautiful, beautiful place in the state of California called Bakersfield, was like two hours by car from LA. And Sean Waxman, who was a sort of like, uh, position himself as like the, the weightlifting authority on the West Coast was there in Lawndale. And so for a good quarter of a year, that was our Saturday. We would get up early, drive to Lawndale, train at his gym, and then drive back to Bakersfield and just do Olympic weightlifting.

And then we moved to the Bay area and then had the opportunity to train with Jim Schmitz, who was a team USA coach and also like a team USA referee. Just like he is like kind of the mayor of Olympic weightlifting for the US. Like he's been in the sport for probably like 60 years, I would say. And I had the pleasure of training with him for probably about a year while we lived in the greater San Francisco area. And when I was in college, that's when I first met Jim actually, was at a... So the brand Caffeine and Kilos who did the cool beans coffee collab with Masanomics,

they had a kind of like paying your dues, sort of Olympic weightlifting meet they did in Sacramento. And they call it the Tommy Kono classic. And so, uh, I think it was the first or second year I went to that. And I was a loader at that event as a volunteer, but another part of that, because Tommy was living in Hawaii at the time. So if he would fly over to Sacramento or to California and have some downtime. And so the first day of his trip, he'd do like a speaking

engagement. And so I went to that and that's where I met Jim the first time. And he was like, well, if you're ever in San Francisco, look me up, blah, blah, you can train my gym. And so circled back and hooked up with him and started lifting with him. And also while we're in the Bay Area, because Jim's in South San Francisco, and then we're living more on the south side of the Bay Area, closer really to San Jose. And so Dan Green, Boss Barbell, is in Mountain View. And so that was a much easier drive. And so we kind of split our time between those two gyms.

Like we go to gyms on Saturday when I got off of work. And then during the week we'd be at Boss Barbell because I was working at a 24 hour fitness at the time and just wanted like separate space. Like I, that's a sort of a big thing with me is I like things in boxes like if I'm gonna work at the gym that's just work I don't want to work out there too not make sense and so that's that's kind of what boss barbell comes in fun story I know two of the people you name. So like, either I'm learning or those are really big names.

I would say they're probably big names. I'll never know. Oh, yeah. Another one was when I was in college, I went to UC Davis, which and Davis, California is like 12 miles west of Sacramento. I trained at Midtown Barbell Club is what it was called at the time, but it had like this own back room. And that back room was super draining at the time. It had like two dedicated competition benches, two dedicated competition benches, two monos, and then like a road monster act. And I would see like Jim McD and Mark Bell from Time to Time, but Silent Mike had like this powerlifting club.

They were trying to start there that met Monday, Wednesday nights. And so I would, I would fight from Davis to Sacramento to train with Silent Mike. Cause I thought that was the fast track to powerlifting success. And then I'd go there Friday nights to do my squats with Ben Claredad, who was like one of the, the lead weightlifting coaches there at the time. And he was, uh, he's since transitioned to more like strongman training and competed at the Rainier classic last year. I know the name silent Mike. Yeah. But the only one that stuck out to me.

Well, I know Dan Dan green, but I don't know that anybody else you mentioned. Yes. Uh, I know Dan Dan Green, but anybody else you mentioned? Yes. Let's see. Yeah, I'll let you have one here because there's one that stands out to me that I'm suddenly very offended by. Thanks. So the color orange. I mean, is that a newfound love because you're trying to impersonate me? Or is you a are you an og color of orange fan?

Uh, no, i'm just trying to cosplay as you for halloween this year. That works. Perfect. No, it was uh, Let's hear your orange orange Your orange in story It it didn't say that. Agent Orange. It didn't start with Orange, but it ended at Orange. I'll leave it like, so my first big podcast I would listen to was the Adept Corolla show when he left Terrestrial Radio and started podcasting. And he had this big rant about about how like everything is like black,

like car interiors are dark and then like you have your cell phone in a black like case. And then if you drop it or your wallet event, it falls down between the seat, you can't see it because it's black on black. And so his thing was like you spray paint your wallet or whatever, like, or put some sort of like highly visible color on it to where it's easier to find if you lose stuff, if you're prone to losing stuff. Because that was me in my mid 20s, I guys prone to losing car keys and wallet, phone and everything. And so, like that really appealed to me. And so I got like a hot pink wallet, because I needed a and it also had like this secondary feature.

It was like, it would have been good for your sandbag, Joey, because it was to keep moisture out. It was for like cycling to keep in your bib pocket. It was like a clamshell, like hard plastic thing that you can just fit a couple of cards and an ID in and it wouldn't get all like soggy with sweat. But that was like hot pink because they're only available in colors. And like the neon yellow was sold out or something. And that being sold out was what played into orange because when I traveled, I think

it was like when I lived in the Bay Area, the first time, and was going home to visit my family, I needed a suitcase for my luggage. And I a suitcase for my luggage. And I went to the luggage store and they had like a flame orange Samsonite, like hard shell suitcase. And it was just off in the corner discounted because they couldn't move that color. It was like half price. I was like, all right, that's the one for me. Like super cheap orange. I get it.

Suddenly no one wants to buy it. I'll take it. And that was kind of where the orange thing started and the, that the same like, uh, consumer psychology thing at play there also worked with my, uh, my second road bike was orange because I knew that was an unpopular color. So I just waited and shopped around until I could find an orange one. I got a super cheap secondhand frame for like 150 or 200 bucks or something like that, just because it had orange on it.

And that's not a color people traditionally like. And so I've since converted to the color orange. Nice. I dig it. The music to your ears, is it? Nice, I dig it. Music to your ears, is it? All of my apps just updated, no. Actually, yeah, I'll give you two that I saw there and memorized. Have you heard my story about meeting Vinnie Paul?

No, I have not. Okay, so we were at a concert. It was the Rockstar something something right? Remember when Rockstar energy mattered? Yes. And I think Avenge Sevenfold were the headliners or Stone Sour, one of those two, right? But hell yeah, were the headliners on the second stage. Okay.

And when we heard who the headliner was on the main stage, me and my friend Dave were like, well, what if we just sat in the Jagermeister tent all night and didn't watch that crap? So we sat in that Jagermeister tent the entire time, hung out with the Jagger girls and all the people that were there, and in walks Vinnie Paul. So I got to do a shot of Jagger with Vinnie Paul. It was probably my 20th shot of the day. Showed him my Black Label Society tattoo, like had a full time with him.

I hear you have a similar one. Yeah, same Vinnie as Sypo Negative. It was at the Hollywood House of Blues and just waited everyone out and got to meet the band. It was when they were with Damage Plan and so I met Pat Lachman and Bob Zilla and I had a Dime 332 by Washburn. So it was like a short scale version of his guitar. Black body. And I had all the guys sign it with a silver Sharpie. And then like the so I had them sign it and then it just went kind of dead. Like it was another thing where we were just standing around waiting for three hours.

And then the head of security comes around and he's like, guys, you're wasting your time. They're not coming. They're already gone. They're at the rainbow room, which is a big bar in LA. That's the bar that let me hang out or hung out at. And they're not coming back here until the sun comes up. Like you're good luck trying to meet them. And then like he's shooing them off, shooing them off. And he comes over to me because he sees I

have the tar and he's like, just wait there. And, uh, so they're fucking hammered when they get there, but I'm just like, hell yeah. Like signs a thing and, uh, Vinny signs it too. And then that's kind of the end of the exchange. I don't have any like memorable like exchanges with them. Uh, the funny thing is that guitar, it's kind of the John Hancock effect because Pat and

Bob Zilla were the first ones to sign it. So their signature is all huge. And then Vinnie and Dime are super small on it. But when I left Anchorage, I sold that guitar on Facebook marketplace, full circle here. I just posted it up because I wanted to move it. I posted it for like 100 or 150 and a dude like responded, maybe less than five minutes. It's just like, are you serious? For that much? It's like, yeah, I need to move it. He's like,

I'll be there. Where's your address? And then he showed up, picked it up. And that was it. He's like, I can't believe you're getting rid of this. It's like, yeah, I, but I can't really hold on to it anymore. It's like, it's't believe you're getting rid of this. It's like, yeah, I, but I can't really hold onto it anymore. Cause like, it's too cumbersome to move. Yeah. And then it's like, I can't have a shrine to dime bag in my, my family home. Like my wife does not like metal music.

My kid isn't into this. Like it's only like cool for me. And so it's just going to sit in the closet either way. So it's better. You take it. Yep. But the head of security guy, he was another guy that died in Columbus, when they were when he was murdered that night. I forgot his name, unfortunately. But yeah, that because when they posted the news story, and they posted the faces, there's that's kind of when I got home, it was like, Oh,

man, I knew that guy, too. Or I met the faces. There's that's kind of when I got home, it was like, oh, man, I knew that I do. I met him anyway. It's like shit. Super heavy. Damn. Yeah. But I like to play. Yeah. Well, I'm not there yet. I have I have one more thing.

It's interesting because sometimes we ask your friends and stuff for things you hate. It's interesting because sometimes we ask your friends and stuff for things you hate and One of them says I honestly can't think of one thing Brad actually hates With an emoji they submitted an emoji, which I think is the first I've seen in all of it But the one directly above it says you hate the movie Sucker Punch. What the fuck? Because like I remember I kind of liked I kind of liked that movie but the soundtrack was more important than the movie But like of all the movies in the world, that's the one that this person was just like oh, oh he hates this No, I think it's just, I, I'm a very like binary person, so I don't have a lot of nuance. I couldn't have like a Gary search, a Gary glaze or something.

It's either love or hate with me. I'm kind of like a cold stove creamery that way. But I think where it fell like, because Zack Snyder did the remake of Dawn of the Dead, and that was just like fantastic. That was a phenomenal movie. No revisions needed. Like that was 10 out of 10 for Gary.

And I think the next Zack Snyder film was sucker punch and the trailers made it look really good. And like you're saying, the soundtrack was pretty solid too. And go to see it. And the movie is just like a mess. I couldn't tell you more than two things. I know John Hamm was there and But like Yeah, I just I can't think of a movie that was so insignificant other than the soundtrack that if somebody I think that I'm like, oh I thought about it. Like it was okay to watch. I think I owned it on blu-ray But like just for somebody to put it in here like he fucking hated that movie Well, so this is like early 20s timeline, like the one of the friends, whoever submitted

that like they they would just like get hammered and I'd be the designated driver kind of thing. And when they got rowdy, they like the the powerlifting like played out songs like that was their playlist. Like it was drowning full bodies and like Evanescence bring me to life. I hate that song. A lot of hate breed. There's a lot of my lifting playlist. That's all that is Every time evanescence comes on. I'll just turn the Morgan and go And she's like I hate you so much. I was like that's her voice like she's This operatic singing is I'm so over it. That's why I dislike so it's why I can't stand kill switch engage It's why and I love their cover of

holy diver and like I like songs but that operatic like no that's the most annoying thing in metal we need to get over that opeth I think does it still um cradle of filth is still for some reason clinging to it a bit as well. Anyway, my rent is over. Back to your story. You brought up, you brought up Evanescence and it triggered me. Yeah. It was just like they'd get drunk and rowdy and they knew how to push my buttons. And it was just like, Oh, sucker punch was such a good movie.

It was like, it was not. Oh, okay. That's funny. All right. I was going to say like, yeah, that was just one of those wonders. Like, how is that the movie he hates? Yeah, I totally forgot about that movie until you brought it up, honestly. Like, I know we saw it in theaters, but I couldn't elaborate on it. I know, like, there was the... It's like a psych ward kind of thing.

And then they do, it's not trepanation, but where they hammer lobotomy. Yeah. I know it was, well, the end of it was the lobotomy, but the entire trip was just her kind of escaping the reality. Again, like the movie does not, other than the effects and the soundtrack, doesn't stand out as, it's not as good as There Will Be Blood. Like there's no storyline there to track. Yeah, yeah, I did that to you Keith.

Yeah. Enough about this fucking movie. Jesus Christ. Gary, tell me about losing a hundred pounds. I'll be back in a second. That's really impressive. You're not the first. I think you, you know, a handful of crew have lost about

that much weight or somewhere in that realm. So that's that's that's an applaudable amount of weight. You said it was about 20 years ago. So give me a couple minutes of that. So like, I don't know if you had this experience with the high school PE. But like that kind of helped me maintain my weight and I gained weight over the summer. And so every year I'd come back a little bit fatter and then maintain and then just keep repeating over those four years.

And then once I graduated high school, I just kept getting fatter and fatter. And it was like this has to stop. And I would I would try what little I knew of fitness, like, my thing would be go to like the middle school I went to and use their track and try and run because it was like, oh, running on this way. And I just get like discouraged by the lack of progress. Yeah, well, I'll tell

you the secret to losing weight is getting in a car accident. To where you don't have any other means of transportation and you have to rely on yourself. Okay so you weren't so I so it was more you didn't have a car more than you were injured okay. Yeah yeah I was fine no one was okay. That was I was like yeah I was like was he in a was he in fucking was he was he bedridden in an off-feeding tube and all they gave him was a Little bit of fucking protein and a like some some protein fucking applesauce or some shit like okay

You had you know had had no means of transportation other than walking or biking so that makes sense Yeah, so this was the first time I was living in Northern, California So I would either well the first like two weeks I would walk to the the Caltrain station and take the Caltrain from Mountain View to Foster City and then walk to Sony, where I was working at the time, and then repeat the thing at the end of my shift. And after like two weeks, I use that check to buy a bike and rather than like, because I didn't know anything about bikes at the time.

It was just like you pedal it and it'll get you somewhere. Like the extent, you know, as writing as a kid. And so I just bought a BMX. Had I known anything else, I should have gotten like a commuter bike, a touring bike or a road bike, something way more practical. But for like the rest of that year, I was riding a BMX to the Caltrain station and then Caltrain to work, Caltrain to home, or the station to home, and also doing minor errands to the post office or groceries and stuff like that.

And then I was big on a a car form at the time. And I knew I was going to be leaving the Bay Area and like there was this big like NorCal SoCal divided in that car form. I'm like, oh, you there's no way you can live on a bike in Southern California. And I was like, well, let's see about that. And so I made it my mission to like, try and do as much as I could on a bike in Southern California. And I did buy like a replacement car for the car that I totaled. But I tried to use the bike as much as possible. I think the initial thing was like trips under 10 miles or something. I would elect a bike and if it was above that, I would drive the car. And then like, I went kind

of crazy with the weight loss thing because I was motivated by the progress I was seeing. They're just like, okay, let's just rely on the bike. And so like, I think it became like 20 miles, like if I wasn't leaving the town I was living at, which was Temecula, like I would drive, but as much as I could, I would ride my bike. Makes sense. That took me from like 270 ish to, I want to say like 225, maybe 225, something like that when I moved back to Southern California. And I knew like my lifestyle was going to change because I was moving back to my family home and my mom's thing is like baking and then making you feel guilty about not eating your food.

Yeah. And so it was like, okay, I need to have like some reinforcements here. And so I got a gym membership and that gym membership came with like, I don't know, five free personal training things or something like that. I don't know, five free personal training things or something like that. And so I did that. And in doing what little like resistance training I was doing at the time, it was just like, I kind of doubled down on the cardio because of like psychological reasons. Because like my growing up, my dad would leave work and then go to the gym for like two hours and then come back. And I like that was a pain point for my mom. Like

she would always like kind of make fun of him for going to the gym. And so I didn't want to have that like toxic thing like living in her house, like going to the gym for two hours kind of thing. And so, you know, triathlon is not very time intensive. So I just started running, swimming and cycling for like six hours a day. No problem there. But yeah, I just super calorie deficient, pretty much eating like oatmeal in the morning and chicken breast lunch and dinner and then Swimming in the morning and then depending on the day either running or cycling after that and then go into classes And got down to like

160 at my lowest which is like my goal weight I thought I'd look amazing there when I got there But I just look like a fucking twig like I had no no definition or anything. I just had like flabby skin. Do you look skinny fat? Yeah. Never fun. Good deal. I just look like a melted candle. Should we move into FMK do you think?

I don't know. I have a Mount Rushmore I could maybe do but I have an open it for FMK That I really want to do I'm gonna hit you with a we can do a couple of Mount Rushmore. This one doesn't land then we'll just skip it well, actually I'll prelude it to as a big biker guy have you gone back and like consumed a bunch of Bicycling movies or anything from that you might have missed in your youth Have you like gone out of your way to like watch movies about bicycling? or anything from that you might have missed in your youth? Have you like gone out of your way to like watch movies about bicycling? No, I really haven't.

Then I don't have a mountain rushmore. I don't think I could name a single bicycling movie. There's a handful. But if there's some, it was going to be your mountain rushmore of movies about bicycling or bikes, but if you don't have one, then it's kind of. I will say like the number one movie about bicycling, which is also like the, the inspiration for my gym name, he was big adventure. Yeah. That's a good call.

I think the movie, it had a lot of bicycling in it. I mean, well, there was like, there was breaking away. There was, there was a Kevin Costner movie. I think it was called breaking away. And there was another one that was, uh, uh, fucking, there was a Kevin Costner movie. I think it's called breaking away and there was another one that was a Fucking there's like a town. There's one in the 90s about bike messengers with oh that one was bacon. Yeah, and then there was another one with Joseph Gordon Levitt where he was a bike courier. That was more recent. Yeah. Yeah, okay There was rad. I mean there was there there was enough to do a Mount Rushmore bike movies

But if you didn't like have him in your head or I had a head all this it probably wouldn't I'm not that current like I have a huge Like popular culture dead spot like oh, yeah Oh, I think that's probably where the sucker punch thing was coming from because like in high school I was like big cinema guy like I had the I made it a big like point to buy like the criteria and collection DVDs and stuff and Like the more artsy films and stuff like that and then sucker punch is definitely like the antithesis of that And so I think that's why I raged against that movie so hard

All right. Well since that let that didn't land I'm gonna I'm gonna ask one question then we can Joey can do his rush more than we can probably come in I'm gonna do an FM K and a rush more. There you go. So I want to hear some poop stories or at least one because there was like 10 submitted that were all kind of like not overly detailed. But do you have a do you have a good poop story or a plethora of them? I have I have several poop stories like nothing like Nate right myself. I think there's story. like nothing like Nate where I poop myself. I don't think anyone has a Nate story. Um, tell me.

So I, you can tell the, how we want to do it. I want the funniest one. I want, I want it to be funny. I guess whatever, whatever you can hit us with some fur for amusement. What do you think you got? I think like the funniest one, there's actually two funny ones. But so in probably be like eighth grade, because my because my parents divorced, I would spend my summer break from school with my dad. And his whole

thing was just like, here's like $5 a day to cover any like expenses or whatever. And I would just spend the day with my friends while he was at work. And then I just had to be home for dinner was kind of his thing. And then I was free to do whatever I wanted to get. And this was around like the time that group of friends was discovering drinking. And so I went over to his house, because his mom worked corrections corrections and so she wasn't home at night and so that was the place everyone went to do naughty things or whatever and It's

like 10 o'clock at night and we're getting hungry and we don't have enough to like order pizza or whatever and we all decided the smart move is to walk to the 7-eleven and That's probably like a mile from his house or whatever. We walk there as a group. It's after curfew. So our big thing is like watching out for cops. We get to the 7-Eleven, everyone gets their snacks.

In my infinite wisdom, I bought a roller hot dog, chili cheese, like a roller hot dog. We're, I've consumed, so that's what three now, the dog in question. And we're maybe like a quarter of the way into the return trip and stomach's already bubbling. Like this was a mistake. And I'm coming to terms with that mistake. And like, we get back to the friend's

house and everyone's kind of like, yeah, I guess we'll call it here because it's kind of like we're dying off at this point because it's probably like close to 11 or 1130 or something. And so I'm walking to my dad's house from his house, which is like two blocks. And I know like there's something knocking. I've got to get to a toilet soon. And I'm kind of picking up the pace, like walking a little bit faster, a little bit faster. And that's feeding in anxiety. Like I need to shit like really bad. And the lock on the front

door to his house was the kind where it like compresses and you twist it to lock it. And we put the key in sometimes we would get stuck in between that state where it wasn't fully unlocked. And so I'm wrestling with the door and freaking out that I'm not going to be able to get inside. And it's like, I have to surrender at this point. So I just dropped trial and the like entryway to the house and there's like flowerbed on both sides and then sidewalk going up the center to

the door and just like shotgun blast the side of the house and the flowerbed just orange yellow like diarrhea everywhere. just orange yellow, like diarrhea everywhere. And then like, like pull my pants up with the ass exposed, like the front's covered, finish unlocking the door, go to the bathroom that's like off the entryway, clean up and then just like, you know, wash my hands, brush my teeth, get ready here if I go to bed don't even think about trying to clean it like there's no cleaning this that's

worse than that leave it on the counter it's so bad and you heard did you put a note on it at least Gary no there's no no there's no no and so I didn't pull the Nate special for the note no the next like it had to be like a weekend so maybe this was a Friday or Saturday night because my dad's girlfriend was over and they get up and decide to garden there and they're already they've already been out there for a while when I get up and go out there and they're like you wouldn't believe what happened out here a dog like destroyed our flower bed like dog must have got into something or ate something poisonous or something

a dog had a rough time and just like shit everywhere so he to my knowledge he doesn't know that it was me unless he's just like totally like brushing under the rug all this time just like totally like brush it under the rug all this time. That's that's pretty good. We're going to become the poop story podcast. Well, I didn't. That was a long buildup for I didn't. But yeah, no, I enjoyed that.

Then I made charcoal. The I guess the quick finish would be like maybe eight years ago when I first started dating my ex, we went to Thai food and they typically ask you like how hot do you want on a scale of one to five or whatever. I don't even remember what we ordered, maybe like a two or three or something, somewhere like middle link. And it came out way too hot for either one of us but proceeded to eat it because like you got to eat what you paid for kind of thing can't just throw away good food

and we're picking away at it and there's still plenty of leftovers when we're done which is kind of unusual for us and so I have it at the end of the night and she's like you go ahead and take it because I'm not going to eat it and so I get up the next morning and I eat it for breakfast. And then proceed to go to work, which was when I was in college. So I was doing door to door flyering. And on the way into town, I stopped and get a coffee. And so I got like the flame gut from the hot Thai food. And then I had like coffee on top of it and it's go time. The coffee shop doesn't have bathrooms like for customers, which is like, why would you do that in a coffee shop? Yeah, that's weird.

And so I drive. Like a mile. Would that be south from that coffee shop to Trader Joe's? Cause I know they have like public bathrooms and I go inside the men's restroom. There's only one stall. It's like two or three urinals in one stall. And I'm waiting like for this dude and he's, he's not taking. Yeah, he's reading the paper. Yeah, he's, he's doing his thing. And so I'm getting impatient because it's the same thing as the flower red one, like it's coming out like it's gonna be nasty. And so I make the executive decision to go in the women's restroom, because there's two stalls in there I find out just rush beeline into that first stall and just. Torrance, Torrance, Torrance of, of hot, hot Thai food coming out

just in the women's restroom. And I have to wait until the restrooms empty to come out as a man using the women's restroom and then just like quickly escaped the Trader Joe's without being seen. Oh, we used to be a proper country. But yeah, poop stories are my thing. I have a lot of a lot of poop stories, unfortunately. We'll probably cut at those. Yeah.

Okay. I have an FMK. This is going to throw you for a bit of a loop. All right. FMK, Norm McDonald, David Allen Greer or Frank Zappa. I think it would have to be Mary's app, because there's so much range there of material. And then F Norm, and unfortunately, Kil Dag. Because Dag was like the, he was a good guest

for podcasts and radio shows. And I mean, I like his comedy, too, but I like him more as like a third chair kind of person. So I think that would be the pecking order on that FMK, unfortunately. That's a tough one. I don't disagree. David Ellinger, famous for his role in Jumanji. I got myself with that one actually. All right, Mount Rushmore. Tool songs.

I talk about nerds a fucking lot. I'm a I'm a tool nerd. I don't I don't like advertise it, but like, yeah, because they're so pretentious. But yeah, I get it. The only thing worse than the only thing worse than listening to tool is other tool fans. Oh, and I'd love to hear why. Because yeah, let's, let's nerd this tool band, this tool thing.

Yeah. And the alien face is welcome, which is, which is actually really. Yeah. If we're going to go the alien face, let's give the alien face to Rosetta stone. So at least it's like, yeah, that's on brand. If we're going to go the alien face, let's give the alien face to Rosetta Stone. So at least it's like, yeah, that's on brand. So let's go new month. Really? Right into Um, Lateralis and I'll go H instead of 46 and two. Cause I think actually like chronologically, like 46 and two, I think is my George Washington. I think that's the one that got me into them. 46 and two, I think is my George Washington. I think that's the one that got me into that.

But I think like of the other songs I was picking, they're all more like the philosophical kind of songs. And that's why I went with H. I do find it a bit interesting that they're all except for H, the later album. Where like, personally, I would go, I think 10,000 days is their best album. I think later Alice is like One point off because later Alice has schism schism. I think is Pure Yeah, like it's it's easily one of the greatest songs Ever and I'm saying like it's it's overplayed. I can't listen to it anymore

Yeah, so I don't have that because I don't listen to the radio or anything like that So I listen to like, you know the lyrics and things like that I think schism if you really focus on the lyrics, I just think and even like the triplets on the bass like that's just wild But yeah, they were all later songs. You didn't go with anything off of opiate or undertow I Just think like sonically, they changed a lot. Yeah. Once they got the, once they got the new bassist. Yeah.

Once Justin came in and Paul left, like I actually prefer Paul on bass. He's a lot more present in the mix. And like, I like the punchiness of his tone. Uh, 10,000 Days is actually an album it took me a long time to get into like I didn't like it when it first came out and it probably wasn't until like the excitement over Fear and Oculum that I got into 10,000 Days and in the And, and, uh, like post-not clarity of fear, not one, it was like 10,000 days is a way better album than fear. I'm sorry.

Yeah. Um, so I, I, I, I retconned and it was like, okay, this isn't so bad. Cause what got me with, uh, 10,000 days initially is a lot of the rhythm stuff had the same pattern where it sounded like an offloaded drying machine. It was like... Okay. That was just annoying because there's like three songs that had that. But like the, what would be considered the singles off of 10,000 bass are all super solid. Like, Jambi, The Pot,

those off of 10,000 days are all super solid, like John B, the pot, Vicarious, those are all killer songs in their own right. And then like being older, air quotes, 10,000 days, like the part one, part two mean a lot more to me now. Like having someone in your life that gives you unconditional positive regard and no longer having them in your life. Like that is a lot more personally significant or meaningful to me. Like I think I matured into that album. It's all that happened. Because when 10,000 Days Dropped, I always peak like extreme metal metalhead. And it's like, Oh, this is, this is stupid. Like where are the blast beats kind of thing? I still appreciated like more artful metal or prog metal, whatever you want to call it, uh, but it just didn't like.

Check the box for me. Cause Anima was my introduction to the band. Like I heard sober growing up on the radio, but I wasn't aware. Two of was the band that was playing this until I bought Anima was my introduction to the band. I heard Sober growing up on the radio, but I wasn't aware Tool was the band that was playing this until I bought Anima. And then I went to the record release for Lateralis. So that one has a special place in my heart. And also the Alex Gray art for that album is huge to me Like I love the art for that album in particular. And I think that's part of, maybe not part of, I think maybe it just feeds into why I like physical fitness and like anatomy charts and stuff. I like that dissected view thing. Like even growing

up, I liked those, like you'd buy like a model car or whatever and. I liked that dissected view thing. Like even growing up, I liked those, those like, you'd buy like a model car or whatever and have like the dissected version of the car where it was like the fully constructed one. And then you see like three quarters are cut away or whatever you can see the internals and stuff like that. Like that aesthetic was always really pleasing to me, visually.

And so I think that album, like checked all those boxes because it had like the the transparent sleeves for the liner notes where you could like take the body apart and put it back together and stuff. All right. I'll let you in on a bit of a nerd secret of mine. I actually have a copy of Saliville. I had it too. That's a big regret.

I was going to ask you about that. Yeah. I was going to be one of my questions about, uh, cause everything's like streaming now. Yeah. I'll save the story. I'll save it then. You can still ask that question. Actually, let's just lead into that. Then do you have any questions for us? I have a few questions, but one, the pertinent one was like, with the prevalence of streaming media and everything like that. Have you lost any physical media that like was personally significant because I like Salvo for me. And then like, return the gift by a group of four, or a gang of four is another one like there are these certain albums that you can't get on streaming because

of like licensing rights. Um, Salvo is one of them. I bought that one on the earliest day and then I sold it when I sold like all my physical media that have like gas money essentially to move. Uh, so I, that's a regret. I still have the Salvo DVD and CD and no, it's, it's never going anywhere. I think my kids might've stepped on the dust cover a couple of times, but I definitely still have that because that, that version of push it and that version

of third eye and like those are, you will never hear those again. They're only available on that DVD. And then Maynard's message to Harry Manda to Maynard's dick is on there. You know, the DVD is is it is what it is. It's the music videos plus a weird game. Yeah, it's of the time like that's kind of what DVDs were when that came out. There is one that I've lost and it's actually the opposite. It was only available digitally and that is Childish Gambino's, um, Kawhi. So he did a mixtape called Kawhi that was only you could download it. And I had it at the time on my Google Play, and it did not translate to anything else.

Because when Google Play turned into YouTube, they just removed it. So I've lost the Childish Gambino Kawaii album. Have you tried like pirating it? I mean, I could, but I'm not not gonna put effort into that shit. But beyond that I actually still own every CD that I've ever bought. It's in a big giant, big giant thing. I don't have a CD player in the house but like we had a big internet average up here and for like 48 hours you could not get on the internet. And then I was like well look

what daddy has it's a box of DVDs and CDs like let's put them in the PlayStation and still enjoy some stuff right and that's that's part of the reason I won't get rid of that stuff is you know that's mine I bought it you can't take it from me yeah I had a like a. I thought classic or whatever they called it at the last run, but I had the hard driver place with the SSB and I had all my albums and everything on it, but the chip on it got corrupted. So I lost everything that was for you big Tanner. Yeah, I was asking in the discord if they had to get an

update because there was kind of a race to see who got a did I get a laptop or did he get an SD card yet and I didn't get any I just got mocked. I didn't actually get any solid answers and I missed the pre show and the show show. So tune in next week. Do you have an answer to that question, Keith? Is there any physical media that you've lost since everything you wish you still had? Oh my band's music, that's all gone. I was in a band when I was 17 and it's gone forever so that's gone forever. But Keith, is there anything that you can think of? There's a couple songs that like,

I remember vividly a song I heard in concert once that I tried to download or find after the fact and never could. And the melody of the song is still in my head-ish like 25 years later. I never found that song. That shit like that kind of irked me. But no, I quit.

I don't know I ever that is I had like I had like a three or four thousand Song collection that I still have somewhere on a hard drive that I haven't updated or I haven't added anything to since like 2015 probably Then I got basically when I started my gym. I got Spotify premium, and I'm I'm content with that so I have every movie I've ever wanted. I have a digital copy of any movie I've ever wanted to watch. I forgot all the music on Spotify and or, you know, a hard drive copy of everything I listened to

from childhood till like my mid twenties. Lately. What about like the interactive menus on DVDs and stuff? There's not that stuff you miss. There's those I miss. I miss like deleted scenes and alternate endings on like on all the physical media from like DVD days You didn't like they don't they still do those like but when I buy things off Apple or something the probably

If the licensing changes I lose it Like I've there's a few movies I've lost One time I'll tell you this story. We were all watching the ring when it first came out on DVD So we were at my buddy's house. And we watched the ring. And then we let it go to the menu. And then we were all like, all right, well, we're at a beer. Let's all head down to the beer store.

And we all got up to get our coats and jackets on. And what you don't know is the ring, the longer you let the, what do you call that, the cover menu or whatever, the main menu, it would go silent and then a phone would ring. So we're all getting ready to go after watching this movie and then that happens and we all stopped and we're like, what the?

Like it stopped all of us in our tracks and you'll never get back, right. What else you got for us there? Uh, the, for both of you, like, wait, did I miss underrated? I was gone for like two seconds. No, no, you didn't, but it was a natural progression. We'll still do that. So like I'm fairly new in some of the mass and most of the mass in almost lore. So barbells are Tanner's thing. What is Tommy stick excluding wool in his hair?

Well, he used to be a boat guy and then he was, uh, then he was just a work guy. And then now he's a home gym guy. I'm trying to think what else he, I don't know. He's a digital guy. I love how much he knows about that kind of stuff. Yeah, he's like the the Donatello, the ninja. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good way. Yeah, he's very good at that stuff.

And if you ever hear them talking about it, like hear him passionately go off about it is is always kind of refreshing because he knows so much and cares. It's really fun And then the final one for both of you is like is there anything at this point? That would make you leave through or disavow like Mason omics is there anything they could do piss you off or you just like burn all his shirts and To leave the discord if they started talking about politics and religion,

like anything other than in a mocking manner occasionally, absolutely, 100% I'd be gone. If Tanner decided that he was gonna be a right wing political activist on this podcast, I'd immediately fucking delete all of his subscription and cancel this podcast. Or this podcast would have to pivot into something else that has nothing to do with them.

I absolutely refuse to fucking be associated be anyone talking about politics or religion. Can you imagine for like, so I'm going to give the answer is no, there's nothing they could do because they would never. And that's the they've been doing this long enough, like eight years or something crazy like that yeah they would never do the thing that would make me abandon it I do want to imagine for just a second Tanner or Tommy I would picture Tanner more because he would do it as a joke going full-on like podcast Jimbrow for like 10 minutes. Like doing that like if you don't bench press more than your body weight, you're a fucking loser or just something like that. Like I can't, I can't imagine it because he couldn't keep a straight face doing Jimbrow Jim Bro podcast bullshit. And like, you know, we've got our sister podcasts, we've got our cousin podcasts, like even Huck

Finn, he does a little bit of that stuff, but he does it in a way that is funny enough that I don't hate it. But then you listen to these other podcasters, and they're just like, they're giving dating advice and like you're sorry, dude You're single for how long and you're giving me dating advice like You know, you're telling me that I need to take tests and I'm like, no, I don't like it's just that kind of stuff If they were to go that direction, I can imagine me being like I might have to back off a bit And by bit I mean afar. But I just don't.

It can't happen, because these two guys will never do that. Yeah. Well, yeah, they've had like nine years to do it, and they've stayed the course. And it's worked for them. I can't imagine them. Even if one of their sponsors was like, we really need you to boost our test sales, they'd be like, no.

No, we're not doing that. Like, we're just not going to do that. You know, a sponsor comes to them and says, oh, we want you to like advocate for our dating app. They're going to be like, no, we're not doing that. So like, I would say there are things they could do, but I don't think they would ever do them. Does that make sense? Yes, and that's why we have this podcast is our faith in those two guys

Yeah Right. Yeah, that's all that's almost an ad that was all There is a long list of things they theoretically this hypothetical world could do that it would I would bail I'd be out but it's like that's with anything like I've I've unsubscribe from so many podcasts like I have I've listened to thousands literally probably thousands of episodes of podcasts in the last 10 15 years and I'm only currently subscribed to like a dozen podcast because I've you know They just you just get fucking tired and just peace out of multiple podcasts. I'm at three

I'm at three. It's mass comics this one and a horror one and I just hate push. I just hate like all of this you get some Uneducated Guy who got rich off of his dad's money Who just wants to stand here and tell you how to be successful and like one of my number one rules going into 2024 was I'm no longer listening to the advice of millionaires. Like I just don't you you are not self-made money. Not a single one of you are self-made money. I don't believe you. I'll never believe you. And I just don't see Masonomics going that direction.

I think even if they could have the opportunity to sell out and do so, they wouldn't do it. I just don't. That's a good concept. If they did sell out, like if Pillar 4 bought them for, they gave them a million dollars each, and then they would, even if they did that, how bad would it have to get? But they'd still. But then if they what like even if they did that like how bad would have to get? But they'd still but then if they get that if they that much money they super saturated with

But they would come to us and tell us That's the thing like Tanner and Tommy would be like hey everybody we have an announcement Bought by pillar for we're gonna and then like but they would lose They have 600 people giving them a dollar a month or whatever it is that money would go away yeah they would need to do it but I don't know what we would use their their content like it's all hypothetical obviously cuz like they do that I don't know I don't know how their content we're just keep our fingers crossed they can keep this going for another 10 years. Let me like Tanner will be like, well, let's see.

So 12 years, Tanner, something like that. Tanner will be 50. Like is he gonna, 50 year old dude still acting like this. But I mean, I listened to Dave Tate periodically and he's fucking like in his 60s at least. So it's like, it's not that I don't listen to people that are old. So I mean, and we're getting older.

Like they're gonna, we're gonna be older than them. So than them. So, you know, it doesn't to an extent, but it's like, cause like as we were literally all 40 year old dudes and like, we're getting older. So it's like the pips shit I'm listening to should also get older. Um, And it has, cause I've been going through the backlog. Like it literally has gotten older. It's evolved is the best way to word it. Yeah. So I would say, well, like this week, uh, how Tommy was talking about, like, uh, when he first started lifting, like the time constraints weren't even a concern because he didn't have

any other obligations outside of the gym and like work. So he could drive 30 minutes across town or whatever, twice a day to go to the gym and then train, do whatever else. And I think that goes away as you approach middle age or whatever. Like you have other obligations you have to fulfill. You have to support your family and take care of your kids and stuff. Like you've got a wife, you've got like, you know, you can't dedicate your life to work in the gym with a wife. And then you had kids, right? And then you add, you know, other obligations. Yeah, I got to mow the lawn. I've got to do this and that. So if there is already like a side job for them, it is if their audio quality got really shitty or if one of them suddenly got a fucking a snort that happened every 12 seconds. Like things like that would like like it's little shit like like if they just got if one of them turned into like became more pronounced if one of them turned into like Mark Bell and had his personality and just kind of like if one of them fucked the other one actually that's a

just kind of like try if one of them fucked the other one, actually that's like, it wouldn't like if one of them fucked the other one over and he kind of took it over themselves kind of thing, which wouldn't happen. It's just the way they have their partnership and shit. But it's just like something like that. Like, so the dynamic would have to change. Like if it was a, which I mean, it went from a three people and was improved to the two people it is now.

So we're good with that. But like, I don't know what would happen to make it. I don't know. I think we're in a really good zone. And I just want to kind of ride. Cause like, you know how much of my life will be gone if their podcast goes away? That's like, that's like a solid tent.

Like it's, it's kind of embarrassing, but it's like scary to admit that like, because between Joey and I doing the podcast and Nate and everybody like that's an, like everyone is invested into, into crew and all that. Like they're giving up a few percentage of their life, but like host a podcast on top of that, like this is like 5% of my life. ten percent of my life is all revolved around this fucking thing

So if that goes away like, you know, it was just have us. Yeah, that would be very Like cult status like what are you gonna do to fill the void of this thing that you've been actively participating in for years and years, if it suddenly became like, disinteresting to you. That's that's kind of a thrust to the question. It is wild, too, because I've only been here for like, three and a half, three and a half fish years, and maybe listened for like a year before that. So under five years, have I been like, well, just over five years, because I my first podcast was 2020. So the first listening to them.

So yeah, it's been a weird thing. I couldn't imagine the five, I don't know. It's high. I don't, I don't remember much from like the five years before, I guess, if you. I don't know. There's a weird thing about that. And this is going to be right before we go in and pay down to rated, but I have to pee.

Um, there is a thing that Morgan was pointing out to me that there is like this checklist of cults. Okay. And there's a negative aspect of cults and there's a positive aspect of cults. And she was pointing out to me one day that we, we checklist all of the positives and none of the negatives. And she's like, she goes, literally you guys checklist, all of the positives and none of the negatives. And she's like, she goes, literally, you guys checklist all of the positive aspects of what qualifies for a

cult to the point that other cults wish they were you. And it was like weird first, but second. Okay, good. Have her, uh, yeah, I'll get her to find it or something. Yeah, because I was actually on the list. Yeah, she was just saying she knows different from the one with the grant. Yeah, I know. This is the sisters did that.

Yeah, we were driving at the time and she was like, you guys don't do this. You don't do this. You don't do this. But you do this and you do this and do this. So technically you kind of as a cult, but other cults wish they were you, right? Where like you're, they don't control our movements. They don't control, you know, how we worship, they don't control how we speak. They don't any of that stuff, but all of the positive aspects we follow. We used to be. All right. I want to hear. We actually that's

the episode name. Yeah. We used to be a proper cult. I have to pee, but I do want to hear because I've already heard it. And I think So several years ago, it was like the big to do was, this is the first time my ex's family was me, my family. And we went out to dinner and we were at a place in the relationship where my ex felt comfortable introducing me to her daughter and her daughter to my family. And we went to dinner, had a good time, and then afterwards for dessert we went to an ice cream parlor that was down the street.

And it's summer, so there's a lot of people out getting ice cream. And the line's out the door, and we're waiting, just shooting the breeze and as we slowly slowly progress towards the front, as we progress towards the front counter, there's like this bay window where you can see back into the kitchen where they're making the ice cream flavors and stuff and there are two girls back there that keep like looking intently at me and then going back to their work and discussing it with each other. And just kind of brush it off, like whatever. But it gets to a point where we're up at the front counter before we place our order, they both come up from the back and are like, excuse me, is your name Gary?

And it's just like, no. And it ends there. There's nothing about this. But for whatever reason, they get stuck in my stepdaughter's craw. And she's just like, who does that? Who goes up to someone and says, is your name Gary? And we proceed to, you know, get our order and like we're walking down the street. And she's like in the back of the line with the other kids and then she like comes to the front she stops me dead in the track.

Is your name Gary? He's like no it's not and she's okay okay just checking and then goes back to eating her ice cream and it's like on the drive back to the house or something. My ex is like you know what Gary's a lot better name for you than Brad. And it's like, okay. And so like, it just became a joke within the household that my name was was Gary. And they just started referring to me as Gary. And I responded to it because like growing up, BR kind of names were very popular in the elementary school system I went to. There was Brian's, Brandon's, Braden's, all these BR names.

And so teachers or classmates would get flummoxed and just call a name and you just get used to responding to something that sounds similar to yours. So name was never anything I was sticking the uh, like sticking the mud about, like I was pretty flexible with names. It's not David or anything. So it makes sense. Yeah. Yeah.

Not David or Neil. I mean, um, so it was pretty easy transition. Um, and then the like coming, when I joined Instagram, it was initially like Brad underscore PTA or something like that. And he was like, well, I don't really want people associating it. Me like I am not my profession. Like I, my Instagram is very like unprofessional. So I wanted to change something else and it was like, uh, 22, maybe 23, like Christmas we're in San Francisco and, uh, our daughter's friend from school happened to be visiting her grandmother in San Francisco and we were able to go meet up with them and hang out for the day. And we're just walking the streets of San Francisco and her friend's dad was like taking photos of the two of them like hanging out or whatever.

And I happened to be in one of the background of one of the shots he took. And I just looked like an NPC like I'm blazed over. And that's what the thumbnail for the NPC account is. That's that photo. And I looked at the photo I think the day when he sent them over to us. And I was like, man, I look like an NPC here. And she's like, yeah, you look like an NPC Gary. And so NPC underscore Gary became the name of that account after that.

That's good stuff. Yeah. Um, but that's, that's the wrong short of Gary. Well, now everyone knows that we can, uh, wrap this thing up a little unpaid underrated you ready for that? Yeah, let's do that. We can wrap this thing up a little unpaid, underrated. You ready for that? Yeah, let's do it. All right. So anyone familiar with this game?

Similar to overrated or underrated, but a little improved twist on it. So anything he thinks is overrated, he'll call unpaid and then underrated. You know, no one wants to be under underrated. It's good. So yeah, that's just butchered that whole thing. So you'll figure it out. Yep. Fix it in post. On the fly this isn't live. Yep

unpaid or underrated Airbnbs booked by Matt Sumbling Underrated that was what I don't believe you the the the the the the

the the the Sleeping arrangement were you on the Tri-fold chair yellow like armchair. Yeah. Yeah, that thing looks horrible. I think the floor would have yeah no give on that And I don't even think I fit fully fit on it like I think the Like the shank like mid shank and below was just dangling off on that thing so the the bottom half at a certain point I just kicked it down to her like the legs were sloped down and the feet were flat on the floor yeah yeah well that doesn't that does not sound like underrated to me bud so I mean the whole experience that was my first big crew outing and then I got to sleep with the symphony it was it was it was a

memorable experience man I mean we're still here talking about it yeah and for what it was like 25 bucks a night or something like that I I definitely overpaid Matt when I first got the thing The invoice for it because I misinterpreted what he was saying. It was for the trip I think it was 50 bucks for the night or the whole trip and I thought I was saying 50 bucks a night And so I sent him 150. He's like no, this is way too much. What are you doing? And so I sent him one 50. He's like, No, this is way too much. What are you doing? The pictures did not look like I had 50 bucks a night. You would have been better off getting like a $70 night hotel room by yourself as

some shithole because yeah, like the logistics of it, like it probably would have been better off to do your thing where you're in a hotel that was like walking distance from all the attractions and stuff. That room was way too expensive, but like I was, you know, I'd rather spend four or $500 and not sleep on a fucking broken chair. I that was a hang up for me. Like it, it, it, I think the convenience, like the travel aspect, because I didn't have a car or anything and shout out to the big spicy pizza and big Dr. J from State Farm for giving me a lift throughout the weekend.

All right. Unpaid or underrated earthquakes? Unpaid. Yeah. Do you have a bakery story to go along with it? I do. I do. I do. So in November of 2018, Anchorage, Alaska had a huge 7.1 earthquake. The biggest one on record since like 1964,

which like leveled downtown there. But yeah, like, we were in an Airbnb at the time, that was four or five blocks from the hospital that she was working at. And our kind of morning routine would be like, we get up and get ready together. And I walked her to the hospital because I was unemployed at the time because I just moved to Anchorage and she'd been there and establishing herself and stuff for three months at that point. So I'd walk her to work and then I'd walk back to the Airbnb and then like study because I was studying for some personal training sort of time. And this earthquake hits And if you have either of you experienced an earthquake before? No, I mean, I think I think at one point, New York felt like the faintest of

faintest of faintest things, but I'm not gonna I will say no. Okay, so how about like, like flatulence? Like if you fart, have you ever had one that just like keeps going and it's like, when is this part going to end? Sure. Like comedically, like in movies, they use it as a device for like comedy. Anyway, that, that was kind of like this earthquake. Cause like the initial thrust was like someone pushing you and it's like, Oh shit, there's an earthquake.

And then I like got up to start to go to a doorway and like the intensity of it dropped, but it just kept going. Like the thing went on for like a minute. It just kept like shaking. And I was just like, okay, this is an earthquake. When's it going to end kind of thing. Cause this Airbnb we're in was an addition to the house and it's like center block construction and it's modern construction.

Like it's solid. It's not moving or anything. Like I felt super secure in there. But like the table and like the the bed or like walking and whatnot. My ex is in the hospital, the hospital is also recent construction, but because it's like, six or seven stories tall, tall, and like the engineers determine whatever they determined to make it earthquake safe. It's on like a kind of like a car suspension. It's got like airbags and then springs above it to where it moves with the earth as it moves to where it's not

like getting sheer forces and everything like that. That's still terrifying. She's feeling, yeah, it was way more terrifying for her because she feels everything moving. I just felt like the jostling kind of force, but she was getting like the wave motion of it, the sine wave portion of the earthquake, the seismic event. And so she was horribly terrified by the thing. And I'm at the Airbnb just chilling and like things calm down and like, I don't know, it's five or 10 minutes after the thing. And part of my morning routine was going to the bakery getting like a pastry and a coffee and just chilling there and reading for a while.

I am on my way to the bakery after said earthquake. And I get a call from her and she's like, are you okay? I was like, yeah, I'm on my way to the bakery. She's like, What are you doing going to the bakery? There was just an earthquake. Did you not feel it? I was like, Yeah, I felt it. But it was there was nothing. I guess, whatever was an earthquake. I've been through that before. It's just like, that was the worst earthquake I've ever had in my life. And you need to go to the house we're moving in to to make sure like none of the gas lines are broken or anything. There's no damage over there. It's like, okay, but let me go get something to eat at the bakery first.

So I proceed on my way to the bakery, like a half mile down the road or whatever, get there. And obviously they're closed for the day because of what just happened. It was like, oh, I guess this was kind of serious. And so I just turned around and started logging into the house we were going to move into. And I check it out because she wanted to make sure everything was OK because Thanksgiving was a week or two away. I just wanted to make sure she could still cook Thanksgiving

dinner because that was her big thing. She liked to wait. Thanksgiving is an excuse to make white people food. And went there, everything was fine. And so it brings me back to like, oh, that was nothing. Like this house is fine. Like where we're at was fine. And then later that day, the homeowner of the Airbnb, they were out of town doing something, but their friend came over to check on their house. The whole kitchen cabinets, everything was out on the floor, bottles of olive oil, cereal boxes, everything in the pantry was out on the floor. Their whole kitchen, the fridge door was a jar, everything was out, everything was on

the floor. It was a total mess. And even like the living room, like vases and stuff like that were broken on the floor. Um, but that earthquake was very traumatizing for my ex cause there were multiple, multiple, uh, aftershocks after that thing. And everyone got hurt just the same, just like full, full tilt, like fear, like brought her back right to the moment. And funnily enough, like one of them happened while she was on the toilet.

And I'm in the kitchen and she's in like the half bath off the upstairs living room. I'm shit. It was like, okay, what do you want me to do? I can't help you. Just tension off. But yeah, that was the the unfair earthquake. Yeah, we really have trauma here. That's what we do Yeah, all right I'm gonna pass on anymore cuz I gotta get to bed soon so we can let Joey hit you with a couple But I'm fading boys. I gotta go so unpaid or underrated Chinese food

rated Chinese food? Like Americanized Chinese, like Panda Express and stuff like that. I would say. I'd say it's underrated because it's a lot of calories for pretty cheap. But on the whole, I would say Chinese food is unpaid. It depends on who submitted that question or that unpaid and underrated. When I was a kid, I would only eat McDonald's. And so my family would go out to eat and we'd have to go to a drive-through and I'd eat the burger in the restaurant. And a big thing my parents would do would be go to a Chinese restaurant and get their food and stuff because the town I grew up in didn't have any ethnic food or whatever.

There were hardly any restaurants in that town. And so that was their big thing to do. If any time we had to go to Fresno, which was the nearest big city, was they want to dine out somewhere where they could eat. But I can't. At this present point, I would say underrated because I need the cheap calories. Unpaid or underrated folding bikes.

I would say they are underrated. They do most of what you need a bike to do with a few compromises that can be worked around. you need a bike to do with a few compromises that can be worked around. Um, and then if you like it, you can take it with you wherever you want to go. The face of the earth, it folds up and sits in a suitcase and you're good to go. Um, and that was a lot of the appeal for me because when I moved to anchor day to sell my bikes and when I left anchor day, sell my bikes, so I lost some bikes, but lost some bikes

The fully bike works around that constraint I bring it to Aberdeen who knows? What you do like putting a bunch of shit in your carry-on so that tracks Yeah All right, my last one unpaid or underrated a freezer bag of shredded cheese Definitely A lot of those I think it's under I did underrated. Yes underrated. Yeah, sorry Those are, cheese is delicious.

I don't know if there was a lot of lasagna being made in your family homes growing up. So that was something my mom liked to make because it was relatively easy to feed a lot of people if you made a tray of lasagna. And her problem was I would sneak into the kitchen and steal cheese and noodles while she was making it. And her workaround was to shred entire like gallon bags of cheese and just put them in

the fridge for me to snack on throughout the week or whatever. Genius. And there were multiple times my friends would come over in high school and we'd be playing like video games on the PS2 or you're playing board games. The big one with us was risk. And I just be eating shredded cheese out of the bag while we're playing games. And it's getting like stuck in my. It's healthier than chips, I guess.

But like that becomes at some point that's so much fucking fat that, I don't know, was a chip better? It's probably negligible. This is fat, Brad. This was not a concern for me at the time, but that I think is in part how cheese became a nickname in my high school days. All right. Well, I think that rounds us out. I think you passed unpaid and underrated.

Great work. Well done buddy. Add it to my achievement list. We might be able to air this. Hopefully. Hopefully it doesn't get lost. It's on digital media. So get that with us. It's in the cloud forever.

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