Unpaid And Underrated - 102 : Boiling Dirt

Episode Date: April 22, 2025

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Debo. They dive right into great topics like chemistry, dirt, debo-isms, Power Rangers, and peanut butter. Links Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @coachdebo (https://www.instagram.com/coachdebo) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Debo.

Welcome everybody to episode 314 of the unpaid and underrated podcast, a podcast for crew by crew, featuring crew bombed by crew, the more often we record on nights that are not also Mastinomics nights. So that's a fun thing that's going on. You guys missed the pre show. Sorry. Yep. But I am joined by big Keith across the way there. Howdy, howdy. And big Divo, I think is what we're going by. Yeah. Yeah. How's it going?

Good. Good. Yeah. How's it going? Good. And you're good. And well. Well. Anybody got any cool drinks? I do, actually. Stephanie got me one of those orange cream probiotic. What is this? The poppy is what the hell it is called. Those are all the rage, and I think they taste like this one's good.

Like, I think I've had some other ones that work on the ass, but this one's orange creamsicle I can't tell you what it is cuz Tanner's koozie's too tight. But uh, oh, there it is. Oh, there we go. There we go I got it. I got it. I got it We heard the What the fuck is it I could have sore with inch orange cream, but it's just orange. But it's a it definitely does taste like those old fashioned like orange cream things. The orange creamsicle soda.

So it's not bad. I have had these brand before. It's so expensive. I think it was like it was like 13 bucks for a four pack or something stupid like like like like all sparkling water is too expensive. But this was like like you had to pause and go like, I'm not spending three dollars for a four pack or something stupid like like like like all sparkling water is too expensive But this was like like you had to pause and go like I'm not spending three dollars for a fucking can of this but Stephanie ordered me a pack and Pleasantly happy with it. I I also forgot to check with Debo how he feels about swearing

You guys can do it all you want. I probably won't do it. So fair It's okay. I was gonna say, it almost doesn't matter, because all of the times we've been like, OK, we'll try and keep it to a minimum, and then keep this F and F and C word, C word, F and F and F. Whatever. I'm not the only one. No, God, no.

That was just an example. But I do start it off. I'm like, I can be PG-13, but not really. I can try to be PG-13. I try. It's just this is our event session. It's hard to not have them here and there. You got any good drinks over there, D-bo?

Yeah, actually along his same line, I have the, uh, Oli pop cherry cola in honor of Tanner calling everything cherry cola back in the day. That has been a minute. I haven't heard that one in a while. I do miss the joke sometimes. Is everything cherry cola? Everything's cherry cola, but it also has supportive digestive health. And my wife, Heather, bought this one. I have nice. Yeah.

All right. Anybody got any shirts they want to show off? I got the beefy deadlifter shirt on. Pretty happy with that tonight. It was a little low, a little windy. So it was nice to go out and just this, this evening. I'm kind of grumpy. I don't own that shirt.

It's not bad. I like it for a guy that loves deadlifts. And yeah, and the beefy shirts, like you'd think, um, I've, I just have a wrestling shirt on. It's WrestleMania weekend. So if I'm not at work, I'm wearing wrestling shirts all weekend That's just how that's gonna go right to ask because I don't want you to go in a rabbit hole, but what what Number WrestleMania is this it's got to be like

40 600 yeah, I Genuinely don't know and I'm something surprisingly not surprising nobody not that excited about this WrestleMania because the storyline building up has been kind of trash. So I'm gonna say I don't know 41 that works Excuse me. What are we what are we big episode guys here? Get a big one I have the

new raw power Masonics PT Nice, that's my I have the new role power mass comics PT T price that's my that's my favorite design is that role power one night did you have any of you until so I got the tank top I didn't get the actual T shirt and I missed out on the the crew neck to

Just didn't pull the trigger. I think I have the original print and then I have the The stitch up that I got from Dodds But I don't think I own anything else with raw power on it Get a little uh, I can I can smell your hat from here. What do you what? What kind of hat you got on there Divo? Oh It's the Masonomics heavy lifting crew Nice does the crew actually I can't does the crew have our little aw it doesn't have little dots now what the

What are those called the actual term for those he said it already lots That's what I thought okay OK, um, lots. I ever know that I get something, right? Debo said it. I said it. You said dots. I said, um, um, lots, um, something. Um, dots.

Mm, bop. I was going to say this. Mm, yeah. Yeah. Karaoke. Devo started it. Good stuff. Um, maybe have a chance to watch the 50, I'm sure I'm the only one that's seven minutes. I was a it's like a million dollar gym. So it's got to have more than a than a 10 minute video.

I get that. But like I don't I already don't like long form YouTube in general because of ads. So like I need to get YouTube premium. I fucking hate it. It's I hate YouTube. I hate YouTube. I hate YouTube. I hate YouTube.

I hate YouTube. I hate YouTube. I hate YouTube. I hate YouTube. I already don't like long form YouTube in general because of ads. So like I need to get YouTube premium. I fucking hate it. I said, but I'm also sick of paying things. I know I don't want to pay. Well, it's like everyone. So many of the home gym podcasts that used to be podcasts are now like YouTube exclusives or they'll do it on YouTube and you don't get the podcast to like three or four days later.

And that point I've already like I wasn't going to miss out. So, yes, I forced myself to watch it on YouTube and you don't get the podcast so like three or four days later and that point I've already like I wasn't gonna miss out so that yes I forced myself to watch it on YouTube begrudgingly and then it's like well fuck now It's finally on the podcast, but I don't really care at this point. I've already watched it. How much is YouTube premium? Even if it's $10 just 10 more than I'm gonna pay. Yeah, it's at least $10 I'm sure like I want to put a challenge out there that it's like use code unpaid enough times to pay for a year of YouTube premium and I'll do it and I'll start watching every episode every week. But nobody's going to do that. Yeah, but I enjoyed the video. I'm buddies with Efren. We talk a good bit. So it's always cool seeing you know my friends on you know my other friends podcast. You know, YouTube channel like that's cool to me. So is that Pugger No, that's that's that's that you're getting so that that's vintage weights rob, um from pittsburgh

So that's that's rob So his his name is rob his handle is vintage weights pgh Have you been was the whole thing a joke or did you just get confused? Are you laughing at yourself for the confusion or you? fucking with me I think you might think they're the same person like I don't think they're the same person I just completely messed up the handles like I know I know of and who Efron is I just couldn't remember his handle It's just a friend Rob is the one that they asked about the Pittsburgh toilet. Yeah. Yep. Yep Rob actually It's uh he finally paid his dues to me

Him and I had a bet fucking like darn last football season Slipped it in there, you know Robin I he's a he's a Pittsburgh fan and a Cleveland fan. And so our colleges, as a Mountaineer and he's a Panther, so our colleges and our NFL teams are both like diehard rivals. So we, you know, annually we at least bet one game a year with like a 20 pushup bet.

And I think he was having some shoulder issues. So he was a little late paying up his bet but just recently and so and what we're in we're in April and I think he you know paid a debt that was due in November so that's okay though he finally did it but uh no two different people but both good dudes and go go watch Efren's video and hopefully we get some more of the I think we still I think they still owe us a couple more at least one more California gym tour we haven't got David the I think we still I think they still owe us a couple more at least one more California gym tour we haven't got David's yet. Have we I don't believe

Is he still here? I'm not sure. I don't think anybody else he left. He was bored. I think we've got everyone except David Maybe from California trip. So no, no, we'll see but I mean, that's the trick It seems like like Paul Paul flosses video was like three months late and it like blew up. So, you know, that's the trick. If your video is three months past when it was recorded, you know, it's surely gonna be a hit. What else you got on there? The No Wine Cellar garage is open. Is it called the No Wine Cellar garage?

Can it be the No Wine garage? Yeah, but then it's NWG and that's just confusing because the brand is NWC. So it's just, it's all on the compound of the No Wine Cellar. So it is what it is, but then it's then it's NWG and that's just confusing because the brand is in WC. So it's just it's all on the compound of the no wine seller. So it is what it is. But no NWC should be the no wine compound then. Yeah, but it's been the seller for nine and a half years. So that's actually 10 days. So anyway, no, it was just funny. So the weather appears as hysterical. It was like 60 degrees the other day. I have my first log session outside here and then the next day it snowed. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like literally driving through snow the next morning. And I'm like, I was just outside. It was kind of shitty. It was like, when there's only 50 out, but like for me that was just warm enough to like,

like I'm not going to go out to the garage unless it's at least 50. I'm sorry. I'm a plus it is what it is, but uh, it will be nice to get out there. Sometimes I think you guys realize I don't. I'm a plus. It is what it is. But, uh, it will be nice to get out there. Sometimes, sometimes I think you guys realize I don't even have to say something. Keith just says what he thinks I'm going to say to himself. You know, I trained in a temperature can train in a temperature control or basement for literally a decade. And then the, you know, the coldest it gets is like maybe

57 58 degrees on the coldest of days if we don't have the heat cranking so yeah You know when I got to go outside and it's like 30 and like that's not that just won't happen I'll just do something different. I Got my stickers from dammy. Did you get those? Yeah. Yep. Yep. I got those Yeah, I got some stickers from Jake too, and I got a little shit from him for not, so that actually, we can talk about that for a second. Like I'm having a, it's hard. I've sent out so many stickers in the last couple years

that like I don't always write a personalized note. I almost never have. Jake gave me a hard time about that. Yeah, I guess I get a start. And I'm like, and I have, like I wouldn't say I cherry pick who I send them to. I think it's, what is my mindset when I'm doing this? How many hours am I working that week? It's like, if I'm off, if I'm off on a Friday, because I already put in like

a four 10s or whatever, like I'm more prone to sit there and write a note on a Friday. If I'm trying to squeeze it in, and I'm just working a regular week, it's like, I just feel like I have less time. You know, this is the running joke is dinks don't have any time, obviously, but So busy. I am. I'm so busy. I did. I did watch some. I think someone posted something about the Mastanomic Strongman Showdown

and I went back and I remember what it was was but so then that led me to actually go find them on YouTube and I was like ooh okay because I don't think I've actually ever watched any of those they have all three are they have the three of them up from 16 17 and 18 I wouldn't say I watched every second of it but I definitely like you know I I consumed all three of them you know and fast forward and skip mode and they were enjoyable it was funny watching seeing like a you know a Tanner and a and skip mode. And they were enjoyable. It was funny watching, seeing like a, you know, a Tanner and a Tommy from eight, nine years ago. And little Jake was probably like 19 or something

out there running around, it seemed like. And, you know, Grayson was there. There was a whole bunch of the crew. So that was just fun to watch that night. Grayson must have been like 12. I think Grayson and Jacob are about the same age, aren't they? 12? Yeah, 12 then. I don't know, they would have been in there. I don't know. Uh, I think Grayson's Grayson and Jacob are the, at the same age, aren't they? 12. Yeah.

12 then they would have been in there. I like, I just hit 40. So everybody is immediately. Well, like while, while watching them, I did think like as young as Jake and, um, Grayson would have been little Antony would have been like four or five or something somewhere, like legitimately he would have been a child somewhere, maybe not even in puberty. So that made me laugh. Um, did you see the, um,

the post that Mastodonomics did in the story with Megan, the quarter horse and what she did to her name. Um, did you, did you get to see that Devo on one of the stories? So you want to tell them what it was? So I'm not the only one talking. Well, she on the leaderboard for the squad bench and deadlift, she put her Max's in Braille. Yep. And then change your name to blind girl, I believe also, or the either the blind girl or just blind girl.

And I was just for matter. I was like, did she do it? But then I was like, because it's like when there's stories shared by multiple people, you have to like, who posted this initially? Who were they? Okay, and then I was like,

it looked like it was Tanner posting about what she wrote. So, you know, so she did that herself. And it was, I was laughing. Yeah, it's pretty funny. Yeah, it had me going good. I think that's about it. Quick shout out to big Stephanie. This is her, today is her eighth year anniversary from a major surgery she had that was pretty life altering.

And we always celebrate it together. We used to always take it off, but it's just like with her new job and just, you know, PTO not being in surplus as it seemed like it used to be. You know, we both work, but we were able to get out and get a nice dinner tonight and kind of just reflect on it like we always do. And, you know, couldn't be more proud of her. How does it work there? Cause PTO up here is based on the hours you work. Like you immediately earn them. So like you earn,

like if you work 40 hours a week, like you earn a specific amount of hours per per hour's work towards your PTO. Like I have 60 hours saved up right now, and I used like 90 of them last year. Is that not how that works for you guys? It's all company to company basis. I think the biggest difference is I don't get sick time at my job, or a lot of people get like,

a lot of people still get the two and a half, three weeks, four weeks, whatever, of vacation that I get, because I think I get like just under three weeks. But I don't get any sick time. So if I do any sick time, it comes out of my PTO. Like I don't have a vacation and a sick time portal. It's just all PTO.

So I basically work sick or I'm eating away at my vacation. That's wild. Yeah, it's not fun. We used to bring up. But a lot of people do have, a lot of people do have like, you know, like I have friends that have unlimited sick time and unlimited vacation, but their salary. So they basically like you still have to do your job, take as much time off as you want.

But if you don't do your job, you're fired. Hmm. Yep. I want to rate last week's episode about the the IP for. Yeah, let's let's let's hear what Debo has to say about it. What do you think of the episode, bud? Well, as a guy that has never competed in powerlifting, and I mean, I, I just got wind of all the different types of powerlifting federations from listening to the Mastinomics podcast, I'm kind of like Tanner

Thomas smells really bad. They're going to ban all these other things that they previously said was okay. And I it doesn't faze me, right? I mean, I, I use like five millimeter knee sleeves. So they're not even like little guys thick you know it's just to keep my knees warm at 43 that's that's really all I'm looking for so you know whenever they they do those things it's kind of like I said it smells kind of bad what do you think of the episode oh I love the episode they

they did a great job explaining it They definitely spent a good amount of time going through the back history of how it all came about. So I will give it five out of five SPD knee sleeves. Nice. I enjoyed it. I wish I could remember every, I do have some things I'll hit on, but last night we, everyone, most of, a large amount of us were able to tune into the live pre-show. So like that's all that's in my brain right now for the most part is that, you know, the pre-show and the first, I think I ended up listening until they kicked us off. So I got like 45 minutes of that in my head, but things that stuck out specifically, I swear to God, I think I listened to like four different

podcasts about the IPF knee sleeves over the past week too, and everyone had a different opinion, and everyone had different facts, and it was just, I think I'm over listening to that. My funniest part was, I think Tanner went out of his way to say consume as many times as he could. I think I even called it out, like, it was like 10 minutes into it, and I was like,

you've literally said consume like four times. This is great The follow-up I guess would have been I think right when the episode I think it was even Sunday night So someone must have been right on it like a non crew gave Tanner shit in the D and You have the YouTube comments about you know, like a whole like it was like it was like a two paragraph Like I want timestamps. I'm butter because I don't have timestamps Your sponsors don't want to know you're doing That's even the funniest work is like their friends really casual, you know, I could text half the sponsors really casual, you know, I could text half the sponsors. Outside of probably never talking to buddy caps. I think they're like on, you know, first name basis with sponsors, obviously.

But yeah, that just so I think a few of us gave them. I actually got on I was gonna give them like a really snarky response, but I didn't want to like come up as a bully. So I think I I had a witty thing at first kind of like mocking him But not really and then just like an all seriousness had like a whole like paragraph of just like we literally tune in for this You know If they end up, you know, give a give a couple of episodes to listen if they're your cup of tea You'll literally like come here for the small talk and the guests and the title topics will be the boring part basically So I with all that I will go ahead and give it five out of five snarky YouTube comments. I do remember some of the episode. It was a bit of a wild week of course. I can't stop

having wild weeks but I only listen to on the way to work and on the way from work. So the IPF thing, I don't understand why we just don't like if we're upset about federations, just leave the Federation. Most thing is no one's in that everyone that's even talking about it. Like, yeah, there's less, there's less than 2000 people probably in America that look like I'd have to look up like I don't know what the power of the American number is. But

like, it's got to be low, like it caught up a couple thousand people like it's not us. It's not us. APL isn't affiliated with IPF anymore. So it's not us APL. It's literally just power of the America, which is got to be less than 5% of power of the American in literal America. Yeah. I understand the, the corporate talker, see of it or whatever the word is and how like, you know, they were another not another, like I can kind of get that. But at the same time, it's just like, you know, there's what other sport or job do you get to do? Do you get to say this is approved? Right? Like, you know, you go play football for the NFL, you don't get to go in there and be like, this is the helmet I want to use. Like you don't get to do that. Like they approve everything. So like I can see kind of both sides of it. But the dirtiness of it, I think is kind of what bothered me is also like how SBT laid off a bunch of people and then suddenly, oh, we're not approving our competitors. Like I think that that's a bit of a and then suddenly oh we're not approving our competitors like

I think that that's a bit of a problem I don't really have much else to say about it because again I don't I don't care I'm kind of done competing in general so as far as I know I just don't need knee sleeves anymore I only wear them because I'm used to them my knees tell me I need them Yeah, like if I'm doing like heavy topsets, I'll use them, but I kind of don't bother anymore because I'm just doing strongman like low weight high reps, so five out of five Ray-Ban knee sleeves blue

deal Five out of five Ray Ban these leaves blue. Deal I do those anything we missed in general topics you want to hit on any big instagram news recruit news you notice a shout out you wanna give anything like that remove on the ad read. The only thing like the car my during the week was in discord the top 10 sports movies was discussed that was a good one we know that way I get it I saw it popped up on my I mean Facebook is certain to hate Facebook because it's just all clickable ads now it's yes the worst okay I like I will just not know the information before I'll click and follow a hyperlink somewhere else. Like I just won't do it. Like if the comments won't tell me, like I'm just, I don't care enough.

But yeah, it was a really bad top 10 list of movies. And I shared it just because I was like, they're really gonna just tear this apart. Like out of the list, I think there's like, maybe three could have gone on the list. Like when I did mine, none of those movies made my list, but like it's all subjective. I think Tanner sum Tanner's ended up the mess the most. It's like literally opinions are completely subjective, but this is literally the worst list I've

ever seen of the top 10 movies or something to that extent. I was like, yes. So then a lot of people were submitting, you know, their, their top 10 sports movies. There was, there was some, you know, core, a lot of, there was a few similar movies throughout a lot of people's list, but there was a lot of, you know, some people had a lot of comedy sports movies. Other people lot of comedy sports movies. Other people had the serious sports movies. Some people solely were football or solely were basketball or you know, whatever sport and uh, you know, everyone's entitled to their own opinion,

but that was a bad list for sure. Oh, it was, but I think my pumping iron times 10, uh, deserves a little respect because that was really hard for me to count 10 on my little tiny phone screen. I had like I had to do it like five times be like, Okay, okay, yeah, I need two more. Okay, now go back and count. Yeah, but that was pretty. And no baseball is I mean Steve Perry like Steve. I would say that's one. All right, Debo, do you have a she's waving

you got a Masonic sponsor, you want to hit us with Big Dog? I have an ad read. Yes, once again. No worries. OK. Do you want to harken back to a time I have an address once a year no worries okay. Do you want to harken back to a time when we used to be a proper country when jimmy quitman didn't have tariffs when sparkling waters were rated appropriately. When matthew horse still received credit for his contributions to the lifting industry then do i have a podcast for you? Head over to your favorite place to listen to podcasts or watch on YouTube and find Masanomics. Once you listen to these two Midwesterners debate the hottest topics surrounding how to get strong, stay strong, and use your strength, then you will want to head over to their website and buy some of their gear. Just remember there is only three spots left and you too can be a supporting member and

become a part of the crew. That is massonomics.com and don't be on the wrong side of history. Nice. Well done. Very good. Does everyone use chat GPT on those or does anyone? I'm honestly curious enough. I want to know what the guests are doing like because like they're they're like they're solid ad or it's like Like all like 99% of them have been like that. That was a good ad read. You put effort is on notes Yeah, I felt like I was kind of handwriting. That was all from the brain. I dig it. Brad Grammer and all right It's good stuff. That is good stuff. Well, we appreciate you doing that for us so we can probably kick all these looky-loos out

and see if we can get our guests on the horn finally. Get this thing rolling. Big Dibbo, is that you, buddy? Yes, it is. Hey. How are you doing? Welcome. Welcome to the Unpaid and Underrated podcast. So we always hit it off with, you know,

what brought you to Mastinomics? How did you find the Mastinomics crew, all that world, and why are you still here? Well, it was February of 2020, and I had been dabbling in Highland Games. And if you dabble in Highland Games, Matt Vincent is a name that you are familiar with. And that was an episode, I think it was like 200 or something like that. It was in the in the two hundreds, like early two hundreds. And I watched that one just to hear what he had to say, because I was following him and he

posted that he was on the Massanomics podcast. I watched it and you know I liked it but I didn't go right back to Massanomics. It wasn't until COVID hit that I had all this extra time on my hands and I started listening to more of the podcasts and And I just each week I just, I said, all right, I got to listen to the Mastinomics podcast and that's kind of how I got here. And then, um, I, uh, just been as Keith likes to say, lurking in the, uh, in the discord since, uh since November of 2023. My birthday is November 25th. And for my birthday, Heather decided that I needed to be a part of the crew.

Oh, that's awesome. That was a great present. Yeah, that's, that's yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I obviously talked about it all the time. Heather is my wife. Yes. So that's massonomics wife supporting massonomics, supporting members, supporting the crew.

Got it. Right. She's, she's been supportive of all my endeavors that I've ever taken on. And, um, she will listen to the, uh, the sisters every once in a while. Um, but I am obviously way more involved in, in listening and talking about it. And, um, I even got my son, he listens to the podcast with me now while we train. And it is, It is awesome.

My kids will. Oh, go ahead. I was just curious how old your son was. He is going to be turning 16 next week. Good, good. I mean, they could definitely listen and not, there's nothing that vulgar. And I think as a growing boy like that with just some

dudes shooting the breeze yeah I mean we we'll see something happen and he'll look at me and go we used to be a proper country yes that is awesome oh yeah every time now somebody around me says it because I because they hear me say I'm just just like, yeah, good for you. Good for you. Um, my kids recognize massonomics now. Uh, even though even the one that can't read cause she's three. Right. I was like, what does this say? And she'll just yell massonomics. And I'm like, it does.

And you don't know that, but good for you. I even bought him a pair of the, uh, lifting department shorts. He's got a pair of the lifting department shorts. He's got a pair of the blue and the olive green. Very good. Wow. Lucky kid. Yeah, he's, he's getting off to a good start.

Yeah. He's got good guidance there. Where are we going to find you on IG slash discord? On Instagram, I'm at coach Debo and I think it's just big Debo in the discord. Yeah, that makes sense. Which I was surprised that there is also another big Debo in the discord. Right? I, I saw it was, there was posts today by another big Debo.

And that wasn't you? And it wasn't me. Wild. I was shocked. Yeah, well let's get to it wasn't me. Wild. I was shocked. Yeah, well, let's get to the bottom of this. Yeah. Maybe it was you the whole time.

And this is like one of those terrible, terrible horror movies or thriller movies. At the end, you find out it was you the whole time. Are you sure your son didn't already join Discord? And like that, yeah, because you have the same last name. It's probably just your boy, right? He didn't tell me. He didn't already join discord and like that? Probably just your boy, right? He didn't tell me he didn't do it. It's a surprise.

That would be a good joke. That would be really funny. That'd be the longest running joke I've ever seen. So, uh, where are you, uh, where do you live? Where are you from? Uh, I live in Princeton, Indiana. That is the western southwest part of Indiana. You can't get closer to Kentucky or Illinois, really. People down here, we call it the armpit of Indiana. It's a lot of farmland. It's very flat, kind

of like South Dakota. South Dakota is very, very flat. So that was pretty quick. So then because because you and I met at home gym con this year, right? That was it was correct. Yeah, it was 2020 to 2024. So yeah, so yeah, last year, but yeah, the most recent home gym con. So that wouldn't have been too long of a drive then for you well i mean depending on where you're at in indiana but uh i know a lot of people from indiana came it was only a couple hours yeah yeah so it definitely makes it help uh are you doing a uh are you running it back and going to louisville then this year yes i'm taking heather

with me oh awesome we're we're gonna we're kind of making it a, a mini getaway for just us too. Uh, she saw how much fun I had and I talked about all the things that were going on at home gym con. And so she said she would take off work, uh, use some of that PTO that excess of, I mean, for me, it's nothing because it's the summertime I have. Oh, yeah. So it works out better now. Yeah, I think next year is a chance. You know, behind the scenes, a little home gym con, it might end up being in the fall. So it might end up being like a year and a half until the next one, just because depending on venue and schedule, because I think like everything is pretty much booked

that he's already been looking at for like next summer for like the size that he needs, even if he tried to go to the same place, like part of the location, because it's like a huge thing and like you rent chunks of it and he needs the whole thing and it's already got chunks of it rented for like all the dates that he would go in the summer so we'll see but yeah no I'm excited for this year's home gym con so are you gonna be there for both days then? Yep I'll be there Friday and Saturday I'm actually going to be competing Friday in the grip competition. Oh nice nice that's cool I'll be there Friday afternoon at the latest hopefully so I think I like I think I'd land at 10.30 or 11. So ideally I'm there by noon-ish, hopefully.

So I don't know, Tanner will be there, I think Friday evening and then Saturday morning. But I think he has an earlier flight Saturday. So we'll have about a day with Tanner, kind of split between Friday and Saturday. It'll be Tanner and Big Mini. Yeah, Big Mini's coming. Well, yes, Big Mini is going to be the...

Big Mini will be Tommy for the week, which is kind of just amusing to think of because it's just Big Mini is a massive and it's just funny. But yeah, there's... I haven't... that's actually... God, I'm tired of spreadsheets, but I might need to do a home GymCon spreadsheet because like then in years past I did so I can kind of like keep tabs on who I was going to be there, but just from general counting, I think there's at least a dozen of people that are crew there. Hopefully so here to hear first He's tired of spreadsheets Hey, they give me overwhelming at times it's just I got I know that's why I don't do them I got a thing or two going on. So, oh Yeah, the Dink Life.

I know. Oh, Doyle, they go to oil. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Brandon. Yeah, Brandon lives. Yeah, I was trying to, you know, not necessarily get a free room or anything. But I was joking around because I was staying at Hogan's at Arnold. And he was like, Oh, I live in Louisville. And I was like, you know, kind of fishing, more jokingly fishing for a room. And he's like, unless you want live in Louisville. And I was like, you know, kind of fishing, more jokingly fishing for a room. And he's like, unless you want to sleep with a newborn baby right next to you. There's no room in my house.

I was like, yep, no, thank you. I mean, I'll hang out with Brandon again. It'll be fun. So, but it'll just be a good time. So yeah, anybody that is anywhere within say two hours of Louisville and wants to come hang out with some crew for Friday and Saturday, Friday or Saturday, you know, use a use a code unpaid, buy some tickets, come hang out with the homies, we will be there. And obviously, there'll be a shit ton of gym equipment. What's your Hall of Fame status there as of tonight? Well, because Keith and I didn't take a picture. I'm gonna remedy that.

Oh, I'm at number five with the being on here tonight. My name has been mentioned on the Masonics podcast, but not my voice. So are you sure it was your name and not the other big diva that we have to go investigate now? Very well could have been. It was during the home gym con. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense. They go this big diva. We don't know anything about as a wild card I know you I think you and I got interrupt like we ever remember talking to you for a while

I was trying to get like I was like, oh I need to know the big Devo story and then We just either we got one of us got pulled apart We just didn't see you can the rest of the weekend I think or maybe even we made it I may even made a comment about what the saver of the podcast I don't even remember but uh that's good stuff so yeah what to get you a couple more with you to a couple more check marks soon anything if you look at the list right now is anything go up I'm gonna hit that in the next you know like I'm definitely gonna do that and hit that check mark well on my birthday this

November I will hit two years of supporting. And Heather and I have actually talked about making the trip to Mecca and next summer potentially. Oh, okay. Hold on which Mecca because yeah, I call the Arnold big dumb guy Mecca. And then I call Aberdeen the crew Mecca. The crew Mecca. Sorry. Like We were talking about making a trip and kind of doing our family vacation that way and making it to where we can go see like the monuments and things in South Dakota. If I do the Arnold, I do that by myself. Yeah, the Arnold.

You don't want to bring your kids or family to the Arnold. Never again. Definitely a one person Following up on you guys trying to do a South Dakota trip like that So Stephanie's coming with me again this year and she's just trying to find something to do and then like she It wasn't a joke from her end But I took it as a joke just because like they talked about all the time But she's like there's a totally nothing to do out there It's like they're like five or six hours away from anything.'d want to go do. And I was like, yeah, I know.

Yeah, I know. Because I spent five or six hours trying to find something to do, waiting for my flight. And it was like, I can't drink because I got to land in this plane and drive home. So like, I guess I'll go see Brock the Rock. Well, I got a new game. Well, it's not a game is not a big game but i'm gonna try to guess his supporting membership number. She said he joined in twenty late November twenty twenty three right so that would be correct. Oh god so i'm gonna go join i can both guess for all that's good, and then whoever's the closest but we're not big math. So no one wins Can I take a bet on who's gonna get it right? Sure

Do you want I want to take big Joey on this one? Yes. I'm so smart 302 Okay, I Don't want to do that thing where I go 303 just to be closer like that's such a dick move and we and we didn't and we we haven't instilled like no price is right rule so it's the closest not not if you go over doesn't count like if you go over it's fine is the closest to it okay okay that's fair. Yep. Three 14. It is three 14. Oh, well, ding, ding, ding. That was yeah, that was it. It was your number three. Fourteen is the closest.

314 is the number. Yeah, it's almost like that was the episode number that I asked. Oh, you saw it. I hate you. You guys, you just you just burnt like three minutes of airtime just to play a joke on me. And I'm here for it. Well done. Oh, you. As soon as you brought it up, I was like, really? I wasn't here. My computer.

That's really funny. So, yeah, that's true that that bit won't work if we make the episode title. Their number. I do like, I do like omit, like, so not letting them tell us in advance and then you and I can... I know, but we couldn't think of anything else to make the episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I... Because I'm not going to say the real episode number. What are we? What are we, an actual podcast?

I mean, we will at 69, 100, and I guess the next one will be 200. I don't think we need to say it at like 150 or anything. So I think it'll just be 200. It'll be the next one will be 200. I don't think we need to say it at like 150 or anything. So I think it'd just be 200. It'll be the next one we say it. I was, I was going to be a long time from now. Jesus Christ. That's I was texting somebody and I was like, what are you doing on this date? And they're like, why? And I was like, oh, it's episode 200. And he goes, you mean the two year mark? And I'm like, yeah, that's what I said. We got that wrong. Not the wrong stupid thing that I said.

I said, I think Nate was so confused. Nate, because I think at one point, one of us, probably me, misspoken did say episode 200. And we were talking about episode, or the year, the two year mark. And Nate was like, oh, that's like two years from now. And I'm like, no, episode 200 or, you know, the two year mark is like a week from now. I asked the two year mark, not the wrong stupid thing I said. I've been guilty of that as well.

So two questions. OK, are you certified? I can see it. Oh, yeah, buddy, there it is. We're we're camped out in the gym right now. And you've been around for a while, even though you've only been supporting crew for a little bit. What is the one piece of Mastinomics merchandise that you wish they would bring back? So picking one is so hard. Um, I would have to say probably the raw power crew neck. When I see scans working out in that thing, I'm just so jealous.

They, I just love the, the, the raw power design. I think it's, it's so clean and it, and like they say, it really does pop. It's a good orange, the blaze orange. Keith, you have the question here. You like to ask everybody. Oh, yeah. Well, briefly, real quick follow up on that. It was does the gym have a name?

Yes, it is the F.E. Strength Lab. What does that stand for? Well, I'm a chemistry teacher by trade and iron. Yep. The element that you are lifting is and so my logo is probably the most creative thing I feel like I've ever done is I have a red F and then I have a little mark of blue that makes it into an E below it. So like the red is your F and then the rest of it looks like an E. And unfortunately, a lot of people are like, what is fee strength lab?

It's a Ferris strength lab. Right. Yeah. Ferris. It's a Ferris Strength Lab. Right, yeah, Ferris. Ferrum. All of it. It's actually really clever. Good work. Thank you, thank you. And the lab part plays in

also, like, I like to experiment and I'm just experimenting in the gym when I'm in here. Nice. So yeah, Joey alluded to this as one of my favorite questions. So how do you explain, so yeah, Joey alluded to this is one of my favorite questions. Um, so how do you explain, you know, you're gonna be in this random podcast, it's about another podcast. So it sounds like your wife kind of gets it. But you know, anybody else in your life that

you had to send the questionnaire to and trying to explain what you and you was how'd that go? Uh, yeah, that's, that's interesting. Luckily, Heather, she she's like, yeah, no problem. I understand completely, but all my buddies, I said, so I listened to this podcast and they have a group of people that kind of follow along. And the group has gotten so big that a couple of the guys are doing a podcast about the group so that

the two guys that run the podcast kind of understand who the group is and they're like, okay. That's well put. I have, uh, I've, not that I pull all video clips anymore, but if I did, that would be a good one. I did enjoy how you put that. That is very fair. Okay And then to and then I have one before you do least fun most fun. Yep. Yep. Hit him. Okay

I've been thinking of how to do this. I think I'm gonna evolve it a little bit So here's the scenario You're just going out for a big lift whatever lift it is that you do okay whether it's strongman highland grip whatever who is the hype man that's gonna slap your back get you excited hype man or woman i guess who is the one person you think that if they were the one there egging you on would really help you get that lift. Does it have to be someone I know or no, it'd be anybody in the universe.

Yeah. Anybody in the universe. Let's go fictional for now. Just like who's the one person that like you're going out there and they're just like, you're going to go do this. And you're like, because you said so so I'm going to go do it. Hey, that's tough. Hey, who's the one? I know. Unfortunately, you're the first person to get asked this question.

And I hope that you're prepared a little more for it. Did we not ask that? Like, no, I was talking about trying to do it. Yeah, it was a group chat thing. Because I also want to ask like the alternative, like who's the one person that would say the same thing just piss you off saying it. But I don't think I'm going to do that yet. So like, yeah, you got you got one hype person. One hype person. And that is really tough.

And is really tough So What does go off of the movies any given Sunday? hmm you the Al Pacino When he he goes in the locker room and and starts give him the speech. Yep I I could run through a wall for that. All right. That's a good one. For a second, I thought you were going to say the, you know, the alligator

they threw in the shower scene and like, that's what got you motivated. Oh, I hope not. That would not. I don't think I've ever seen that movie, but being in the sales, that speech has been played over and over and over and over because, yeah, I know that scene and that scene in particular yeah all right I think it's gonna get me going yeah so now now following guests further guests I might hit you with that you have time to that yeah Keith what's yours I don't have time to I'll let you know in

three weeks when I I've been I don't even know my own answer. I don't like my kid. Like if my kids were there being like, Yeah, daddy go like maybe that would be the one or or Dodds. I would say in there. I will answer it this way for now until I think of like who I think maybe other would be but in life I've had like one dude You know, he's a casual friend. It's like a guy I've known throughout power lifting like he's uh, he started out as a back He has a spotter and loader at local USPA meets So I've known him for years through that now he's a actual, you know a ref but uh, there was two meets one specific meet

I remember he was the back spotter and he yelled screamed supported cheered on every single lifter all day long. I mean, most of mainly so he was so mainly for squats because I mean it's you're not going to scream at someone to like bench and stuff but like for every back squat just right. Well, for death he was the he might have been the back like, you know, if you follow. Does he have a name? Yeah, it's Ryan Dunn because I always know is it not Ryan fuck what is that's because he doesn't have his full name in his

handle. I don't think it's just done something. But it's I have a running joke with him that like ever periodically I will comment something like well done with his last name to you and in and just like I'm running out of things to say because I've been doing it for like two years. And it's like, there's only so many more like well done bits and jokes that I can do playing on his name. And I'm probably sure I've recycled a bunch of them, but like to date, and that was probably, that was, that was, I think that was the meat right before COVID, I think. So this has been like five years ago, like no one has ever been on the platform that's supportive, like for, for everyone too. It wasn't just like the dudes in the chicks he knew it was like

the entire like 80 person meet just the most supportive words I've ever heard someone say like throughout a lift. So like today that was the most helpful. I think the Minnesota Lifting Department. I think they were they were like they were they were yelling at me every time I went out. It's unpaid. It's unpaid. It's an unpaid wait Like they were I feel like that was a harder meet for me. That was a harder meet to like I Don't know Obviously, I was you know, I was I was rude Keith that day obviously cuz I was competing So I didn't really hear too much anyone was saying but like that other me

I think a lot of it too might be the fact that like three or four of my really good friends, not that people lift hard, these aren't my friends, but like my my friends that I train with every day in my house, like we're commenting on it. And so we were talking about it like for a while. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. Like there are there are people out there that always help. But yeah, Minnesota Department lifters, safety, good dudes. I guess so. Yeah. Thank you, Debo, for answering that.

I know you're the first and you weren't prepared for it. We did discuss maybe preparing that with people. But let's just say, if you're listening and you're going to be on here in the future, Debo broke ground for you. I might ask you that question again. You know, it's one of those things. I've lifted by myself so much. Like I don't usually get people in the gym

with me to, to like motivate me and stuff. So I've resorted to like other means like those. There's a Ray Lewis YouTube video where he's talking to like these young kids. And he's he's talking to these young kids and he's just basically like he's Ray Lewis right and he said you know every morning I wake up and all I think about is grind and like that mentality is like that's how I've tried to approach you know by myself I just got to grind it out. There's no way he's gonna do it for me. I'm such the opposite.

A lot of the times I'm sitting there on the couch just like, okay, I gotta go to the gym. Okay, I gotta go to the gym. Maybe a few more minutes of doom scrolling. And instead I just see these dumb, idiot influencers and all these other people. And I'm just like, I am wasting my time. It's time to go lift. like I hate the internet so much

What am I still doing on this internet? I'm going to lift weights I think the the phone scrolling It gets the best of the doom scrolling. Yeah, and then also just seeing just seeing crew lift I'm just like that I should be doing that. Yeah, I'll go do yeah. Yeah Fucking yeah, freaking Andrew Garrison just keeps getting stronger and stronger. I'm like I'm like, all right, buddy I used to have the slight edge on my overhead press than you now. It's just like okay Well, I guess I can now I can now I gotta get a lot stronger Alright moving on all right, Dibo. Are you familiar with least fun most fun? I

Am you want to explain it to your friends and family? All right, let's get moving on. All right, Debo, are you familiar with least fun, most fun? I am. You want to explain it to your friends and family? So Keith or Joe is going to give me a topic, and I have to tell them what is the least fun about that topic and what is the most fun about that topic. 100% accurate. So nothing too serious, Goose, here. So just something that's kind of crew relevant and you know discord relevant this week

I think so least fun most fun turning stickers into magnets So the the least fun is the tedious task of etching around When they are the square or rectangular even the circles are easy as shit to circles are really easy. It but the Masonomic certified facility sticker.

Oh, that's right. So I that's probably my least fun part. That is for sure. The least fun actually just clued in. I don't remember where my name. That's a sticker problem. I think that's us. We have a sticker problem. I've got like a hundred stickers I need to like yeah, I just I just bought more magnetic sleeves that came this Community has a sticker problem Keith because I have so many GD stickers that I don't know like my thing over there where my candle is is mostly

stickers and then in that cabinet is two bags of more stickers yeah I went I went through and pulled all my duplicates and like segregated all the duplicates away so I only had like Morgan did that for me these are the ones I need to actually make into magnets. And I just kind of these are the ones that I only have one or two of. These are the ones I have too many of. But like, there's a sticker problem. And that's, you know, Tanner can't he hates stickers. I think we've talked about this before. He just hates them so much. He can't he can't get rid of them and they keep multiplying poor guy poor guy like rabbits they're like rabbits so just creating them when they're tedious is the least fun what was the most fun and then just you know I guess tell us a little brief of like you know when you first started doing it

who inspired you you know any just tell me a little story about your sticker collection I guess slash so I've been collecting some stickers and for a previous birthday Heather had one of our friends build a little wooden contraption that like I can hang my wrist wraps on or my wrist wraps on or has a little drop-down cabinet that you can like store tape and things like that. It was really cool and so I was putting stickers all over that. Well it started to run out of space and I kept getting more and more stickers. Yeah. And so then I started putting my stickers on my wooden dumbbell rack that I built. And then like someone said, there's a silly goose. Snickers!

Someone said in the Discord, just put them on a magnet. And I was like, no way, that makes perfect sense. Because then you can move them around. And I guess it would have been probably this winter whenever, uh, I started putting those together and I have a small collection of stickers now that are magnets. I got my Arnold, uh, bathroom sticker up on my rack and I got the don't curl in me sticker on the magnet now.

So nice. Um, I don't know if it's a cheat or anything, but there are some that are so tedious like that, that I just say the hell with putting the whole sticker as a magnet. So say it's like a three inch thing and there's a whole bunch of nodules coming off of it. I just put a perfect square right in the middle of it

and the rest just kind of floats. But it's going to go, but it's gonna go somewhere and it's not gonna get moved again. So it's not perfect, but it's. So why don't you just flip it on the back, turn the sticker upside down, trace around it, and then cut it from the back so you can put it on the front.

That's still regardless. Trying to cut magnet with shitty, even with good scissors and like all these little like some of the stuff like Kurt Lager sticker was miserable. I think that was one I specifically didn't I think I just put like Basically cheated on that one and didn't actually follow the whole design. But uh, no But uh, so Heather did two things in her infinite support for me She bought me a off of Amazon these little exacto knives to be able to trace around it. And that has helped tremendously along those lines.

And she also gave me the idea of taking a little piece of construction paper and sticking it to that and then making that a square to put onto the magnet. Fabric cutters maybe like the roller fabric cutters those might help too. Right. I have those for cutting sleeves off shirts because eventually shirts get small and they don't need sleeves anymore. I explain it to me like I'm four like I guess I'm not I'm not picking up what you're doing. Okay so you're making a template out of the construction paper and then. No, no, no. You have a square piece of construction paper

that you put your sticker on and then you cut out the magnet to fit the construction paper. And so like it's just like a backdrop on a picture. That way, you're not cutting the sticker. Then you're not cutting it against the sticker. Yeah, oh gotcha Maybe I'll send you a picture It's time for Dibu's YouTube Explain how to cut arts and crafts into magnets. Yep. Well, that'll be right up his alley because

go ahead and tell everybody what your occupation is if you want. So I teach high school chemistry and I have I think five different levels of chemistry that I can teach to to high schoolers anywhere from some of the lower levels all the way up to college level organic biochemistry. That's awesome. You've been on that for a while? This is year 21 of teaching chemistry. What's your favorite part of teaching kids chemistry? My favorite part of teaching kids chemistry is taking all of the myths that they hear on TikTok, Instagram reels, whatever, and proving them wrong with actual science. That's the spirit. I like that answer.

And honestly, they embrace it. I'm blessed. I have a lot of great kids in my class and we'll talk about organic biochemistry. Right now we're talking about nutrition and kids will talk about, well, what about this thing? And I just get a chance to basically debunk all those myths that are out there. And so that's that's the most enjoyable part for me. Yeah, the Internet was a mistake. You do a little coaching, too. I do a lot of coaching. You're not an English teacher or a history teacher.

Right. Well, ironically, when I first got the job, I was a football coach. Yep. Okay. And I coached football for eight years and, um, I picked up freshmen girls basketball and, and, uh, a window there. And at the same time I picked up girls tennis and I was coaching three sports before we had kids. And so then whenever we started having kids, uh, coaching started to get cut out.

And so I dropped football and basketball. And so now I am just a boys and girls tennis coach at the high school. boys and girls tennis coach at the high school and I do some coaching of athletes in the in the FE strength lab here preparing them for their sports seasons. Was that a hard decision of which one to come in? It sounds like you didn't do bad the basketball very long but it sounds like you were pretty uh you know steadfast and you know had eight years of being a football coach and then had just recently picked up tennis. So was that a hard decision or was it just the tennis is maybe less time can say it's gotta be less of a time suck or doesn't it?

Well, if you ask my wife, it's not. So at the time I was coaching all three, I was the head coach of girls tennis, So at the time I was coaching all three, I was the head coach of girls tennis, but I was an assistant in both of the other sports and basketball season is by far the longest season. So that was the easiest one to cut first whenever Carter was born. And then, um, a year later, uh, or maybe a two years later, uh, we ended up dropping off of football. And I found that being the head coach,

I was in control of when things happened. And as the assistant coach, I was not in control. No, zero control. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, looking back as playing high school sports, yeah, for sure. Like as a, yeah, unless you're the head coach, like you're just doing what your boss tells you to do,

basically. Exactly. So that was a good, that is a sound reasoning Like as a in yeah, unless you're the head coach like you're just doing what your boss tells you to do basically Exactly. So that was a good that that that is a sound reasoning of why tennis won out for sure And then I mean I missed it. I didn't get it at home gym con. So what's the Debo story? So you want the whole like the lifting side of it or oh Sorry, I mean specifically the name. I mean, we can get the name. I mean, it's just yeah, sorry. Sorry. No, no, no. That's my bad. We know. Okay, that's fine. We want to know your lifting history. But is, is it literally from the movie Friday? Or is it a play on your last name? Like, what's the so it is

a play on my last name. I definitely don't look like the guy in the movie. No. RIP. But, right. So I worked at this restaurant back in my hometown during high school and college. It's actually where I met Heather. Oh, I see. And...

I read that somewhere. We had milkshakes and so I made this concoction with butterscotch and chocolate malt and one of the guys in the restaurant said what did you make and I said you know butterscotch and chocolate milkshake he goes no, we need a we need a name for it. He was we'll call it the Debo special. And I was like, All right, Debo special. And so they had a license plate thing put on the front of my car. When I was working there called the Debo special. And the high school kids saw that and I've been Debo ever since. And just for the listeners, like, what is your last name? If you're comfortable sharing that, just so they can kind of like see the. Yeah, no, it's it's the board.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah. That's why I capitalized the B. Debo. Ah, yes. Oh, that makes it doesn't make more sense. Good deal. Allbo. Ah, yes. Oh, that makes it doesn't make more sense. Good deal. All right, then. Yeah. Lifting history. So, you know, you're

you're well into your masters now. So it sounds like you've been at it for a while. So what you know, was it just high school sports and, you know, just finding that bros bro bro life and, you know, then basically what is your story there so one of my

buddies and I we had a one of those really old weeder whiter whatever those are called I always and filled weights in my bedroom and he and I would, we would lift in there a little bit and to Joey's liking, we watched a lot of WWF and we would imitate and we would wrestle each other and we would throw each other around and I also growing up in the 80s there was a lot of workout things on ESPN and cable TV. And so you would always see the strong man and stuff like that. So I always had an interest in it. I never took it seriously. Even in high school, we didn't have a serious weightlifting training program.

It wasn't until I got to college and I was a little bit overweight. Maybe a lot of it overweight, I don't know. And one of my college roommates made fun of me for being a little bit overweight. And I had the mindset of I will prove you wrong. And so I started actually running and I went from about 225 to 165 by the time I graduated college. Good work. It was 250, big dog. Yeah, it was definitely the opposite of the freshman 15. Good work, man.

Yeah, thanks. Well, and so then, you know, I graduated college at 165 and I'm walking around. I'm like, I'm weak. I don't want to be weak. Wait a minute. I'm only 160 right now. Calm down. No, no, but I didn't lift. The problem, right?

I was just running and lost a bunch of weight. So I got the football coaching job and so I'm coaching the receivers and I said, you know what? I will just lift with you guys. And so I started lifting with them and me and a couple of the coaches started lifting together and he introduced me to CrossFit. I know that's a taboo word. We probably shouldn't say that out loud. Oh, no, no. No, your shoulders. Well, I had one shoulder surgery, so. Thank you, CrossFit.

But yeah, but I'll say this. It actually taught me a lot and it forced me to do research on what they were selling as propaganda. And so I read a lot of scientific research in strength and conditioning and all that stuff because of those interactions. And it introduced me to Olympic weightlifting and I got to do a couple of Olympic weightlifting competitions. And that was a lot of fun. And I've just kind of dabbled in some different things. And here recently, I switched to a program called power athlete. I don't know if you guys are familiar with that.

Nope. You'll have to describe it. Okay. So power athlete is ran by John wellborn, who is an ex NFL offensive line. Yeah. So he played for the Eagles and for the Patriots and I think the chiefs. And so he's put together like on Train Heroic different programs. And so he has a program for like fighters. And then

he's got a program for the like power athlete, I'm sorry, field strong. And that would be like your your athletes and things of that nature. And then he's got one called Jack Street. And so like I started in on that field strong and I Listened to a lot of Cal Deets up in Minnesota Does that name ring a bell? Obviously, he's tried. Okay.

It's try phasic training. You got ice, I don't know anybody. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But like do it. I read his first book and he just came out with a second one. And so, uh, like he said, it really sparked my interest into learning more about the strength and conditioning world. I'm sure Big Jake probably knows about some of those guys. Maybe he'll be able to corroborate my story.

And even the Massenomies guys talked to... Oh, dang, what was his name out of New Jersey I just lost his name Matt it's a guy no he was a underground strength he he in his podcast he he talked the whole time yeah that don't remember. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, that was a good, that was a good interview. I just did a hit of ammonia because I saw it on my desk. And then I was like, I wonder if this is still good. It's still good. Yeah.

Anyway, so anyway, he does, he does a lot of stuff, uh, with, you know, training high school athletes and different things. And that's kind of where I've landed is trying to be athletic in my lifting. And so that way I can beat up on my 16 year old son whenever he wants to go play tennis or the as I get your body into the day just a constant dodge right? also introduced me to the Highland Games. And so I started doing some of that with him. And that's when I changed my lifting. I was like, I don't need to be doing 100 pull ups in a workout like that doesn't.

Do me any good. And that's really where the big switch happened there about 2018, 2019. They suppose perfect time to get in the Mastronomics then, because, you know, that was when they were right. They were getting out. So it sounds like you guys both got out of CrossFit at the same time. That's good stuff. Right. Probably for the better for both.

Absolutely. I had a really good one. And then my phone just updated my app. I'm kind of pissed about it. So completely separate from lifting. Tell me about these flowers that you cut off and are growing. Because I got a big flower guy here. Okay, big flower guy. Love the bees. Big flower guy. I love the bees Growing up my grandparents owned a greenhouse here in town we had at the heyday we had nine greenhouses

full of flowers Vegetables like we grew tomatoes all of it, right? and so from when I could, I worked in the greenhouse. And so I know a lot about the flowers and the gardening and Heather wanted flowers. And so we went to this flower place because ours closed down because I didn't want to run that business. And whenever we got these geraniums, they started getting really big. And I looked at Heather and I said, Do you want me to take some cuttings and we can make more? Geraniums. And she's kind of reluctantly said, Yeah, that's fine. And so

I took cuttings and our one plant turned into four. And now we have two plants that I have turned into six more. And so we have a mini little geranium garden growing in our kitchen. Because during the winter we pull them inside. Our winters are probably not quite as bad as yours, but it's not good enough for a geranium to be outside in. I can't imagine as a kid being like, so you were like volunteering and helping, but anytime you're plunged into a family business, there's gotta be a little bit like, oh, I really don't want it.

Once that's over, it's just like, I know stuff I was forced to do as a kid, like gardening and stuff, I don't want to, I don't over. It's just like Like I know stuff I was forced to do as a kid like gardening and stuff like I don't want to I don't have a green Like my parents have a green thumb and I was you know I was forced to like to spread mulch from the time I was like six years old probably and like I I will never Buy mulch for my entire life like that will literally never but I will spite my parents until the day I die like I'm not Putting mulch at my house because well the thing you the child labor you forced upon me Well, I didn't have much of a choice.

I was just told, yeah, it's it's physical labor. We did. We cooked our own dirt. Like the county would dump, fill dirt in, and we had a big boiler and we would drape plastic over it, run these pipes through, and we would cook the dirt to kill all the weeds and the bacteria. And you know how you move dirt? You move it with a shovel. Yeah. A wheelbarrow. Yep. And so I was shoveling wheelbarrow that dirt and we would move the dirt six times before we ever sold it in a plant. That's so cool. Topsoil basically. I mean is it still dirt or is it topsoil at that point? It didn't have a lot of the nutrients

because it would be like if they were doing row construction, they would just take that dirt and dump it in our back part. And then we would, after we cooked it and we moved it up to the greenhouses, we would screen it all, get all the rocks and the glass out. We would go through leather gloves, like four or five pair in a season because you're just grinding the dirt through to get all the stuff out. And then you would add

manure and peat moss to provide the nutrients and then mix it all up. And then you can plant your seeds. And what's funny is we get that dirt here at my place. Like my dad will go and pick up just a truck full. He'll just take the pickup and just fill the back of the truck. But they're not filtering out the glass and rocks. So he's doing that. Yeah, like he's doing that or we're doing that. But that's so dope. Like that's I think the first time we've ever heard dirt boiling.

Yeah, that's I think the first time we've ever heard dirt boiling. Yeah. I have a question if you don't mind. Okay. Crunchy or smooth peanut butter. Oh, it's got to be smooth. Yeah. Wrong.

I can't do crunchy. Wrong. If you said crunchy I was gonna hang up so that's good stuff. I gotta stay. Wrong. If you say I was going to hang up. So I got to stay on for the. What's your favorite peanut butter delivery system? Also, why am I asking, like, did you just did you just get into peanut butter? Oh, my goodness. So my kids would love peanut butter sandwiches. And I couldn't stand the smell of peanut butter.

And Heather was working and the kids wanted a sandwich. And they're, you know, three or four years old and they can't make their own sandwiches at that age. So I had to suck it up. And I had to put the peanut butter on the bread and that day I looked at it and said that's not that bad. So I made the kids their sandwiches and I looked at the the knife and I said I'll just try it. Let's give it a chance and I tried it and I said you know that's not so bad it and I said you know that's not so bad mm-hmm and there and that the rest is history I've had peanut butter every breakfast since then that's hysterical

what do you like on we have like a like a like on toast or just a spoon oh yeah sorry so I started with bananas okay smart know. Is it big Garrett doesn't like bananas? Big Anthony. Yeah, refuse to was rather prove himself. Yeah, it was he would poop himself rather than to consume a banana. He has a he has a banana phobia for the mouth feel banana phobia. Episode title. Yeah, right. But I have switched from I'll still eat the banana with the peanut butter.

It's still a good one. But my morning breakfast is three eggs with bagel with some peanut butter on it. It's pretty good. And every once in a while, I'll sprinkle in some steak stir fry with my eggs. Yeah, but smooth. So yeah, I don't care. Butters, I'm a texture guy. And unfortunately, those chunks.

So one of my preferred snacks is just plain old salted peanuts. Like I'll get dry roasted peanuts, planters or something. And Morgan will have to take them away because I'll eat them till they make my stomach upset. And I will literally just sit there and pour them in my hand and keep eating them. and Morgan will have to take them away because I'll eat them till they make my stomach upset. And I will literally just sit there and pour them in my hand and keep eating them. And she'll walk in and go,

I remember the one day she comes in and I'm sitting there watching TV and she walks in the room and I looked at her and she goes, why do you look afraid? And I went, I think you're gonna come take my peanuts. And she was like, that's probably a sign I need to take your peanuts. Because I had just ate half a bottle of the planters. Like long. So crunchy peanut butter for me is where it's at. I'll usually spread it on saltines, saltines and peanut butter. Oh,

that's the prime delivery. Nice. I thought I'd ask that question because I was like, you just got into it. Yeah, I is. Yeah. I mean, technically, let's think of all those, all those years, all those years wasted. Not eating peanut butter. I know I missed out. That was like almost 30 years of my life has gone. The crunchy is for monsters. Who that? Is that Nathan Green? Is that Nate Green? I imagine. I got a kind of a interesting well I think it's interesting. So you've been in the same field for over 20 years

are literally right at 20 years. So yeah, basically what is different from 23 year old Debo to 43 year old Debo when it comes you can you can you can go classroom or coaching, just give me a couple of things that are completely different, maybe a couple things that are the same. Like what, like I guess how have you evolved or like what are you like this has stayed the same and I still do this 20 years later. I was just noticing people do the exact same job for 20 years.

So that's like, that's pretty cool. And I commend you for that. So I'm just curious of, you know, I guess if you see any similarities or differences from what you did as a basically, you know, a young adult versus a, a a 43 year old man so let's I'm curious. Well for the similarities I still challenge my students and athletes to to be their best and I'm going to push them as far as I possibly can and there's at times pushback especially young Devo got a lot more pushback than well yeah this you're like you're literally a you're you're not an adult I mean you're you're

like I don't know you're literally older than at that point you know what I mean it's like yeah and it wasn't always the kids pushing back, it was the parents that would be pushing back. And when the parents would push back, they would call the principal and the lucky for me, I had a great principal when I first started and he never, he never told me any of these stories. And he retired like my seventh or eighth year of teaching. And I ran into him after his retirement and he goes, you wouldn't believe how many people wanted me to fire you because you made chemistry hard.

I said, well, chemistry is hard. And if they're gonna do anything in college with it, they need to be prepared. And, and that's, that's the way I approach it. And I approach, you know, my coaching the same way. Um, we're going to practice so hard that the game is easy. And I challenge them that way. And whenever they, again, when I first started coaching girls tennis, there was a lot of pushback because these are the my little baby girl and you know, they're

they're not supposed to lift weights and I got them in the weight room and you know, just yesterday at practice, I in practice early outside and we go in and lift as a team. Nice. In season. And I told the girls, hey, we're going to go lift now. And all the girls are like, yes, like they enjoy it and they know the benefits of it now. Yep. So I think that that has stayed consistent through my 20 years of teaching and coaching. I would say I am probably way more compassionate of a person now than I ever was. Yeah. Yeah. So. You've probably seen a lot, you know, obviously, like, you know, as early 20s, you've only seen so many life experiences. And then so as a, you know, you've witnessed

and experienced so many things with these kids over the years, that makes sense that you would have, that that's a good thing to have more compassion is not a bad thing, but not being gullible. You know what I mean? Like, there's a fine line between letting someone take advantage of you actually like you know legitimately understanding when something's going on. Is there any times. I be coaching and a kid would do something wrong and i just blow up and early on and now. and early on and now we have a conversation.

I'm like, so what could we do differently so that this doesn't happen again? Oh yeah. That's the key. Oh God, I've learned that. Right, because nobody wants to be yelled at when they did something wrong, right? Especially when they don't know they did something wrong. And then the key- And maybe, and I'll and hey, that's what I respond to though. Yeah. Cause that was

what happened. If I did something wrong as a kid, I got yelled at and I'm like, I ain't doing that again. And so I feel like my experiences is what I started to do. And then I quickly realized not everybody has the same experiences I have. Yep. And so then I need to adjust and adapt. And that's kind of where, or even me, like if I messed up and you yelled at me, I would just hate you and the thing you want me to do. Right. Right. So now it's like, I, I, I hate you and I hate gym class and I hate like now I don't want to do any of this stuff. But now I'm also putting that into what I do with my kids and my work and everything where it's just like, what could we have done differently this time?

Well, I don't know. Well, let me go through it with you. I'm your coach for a reason. I'm here to teach you for a reason. Let's go through those and what we could have done differently and therefore got better results. God, I hate how easy that is. It's so like you think about it. You're just like, ah, like everybody would respond better than that or better to that. Then you dummy, don't do that again. And then you're like, what were you thinking? And you're like a 12 year old kid and you're like, I don't know. Like, I don't know what I did wrong.

I just know it was wrong. Anyway. I know it's wrong because you said it was wrong. Yeah. A lot of times. Yeah. You know? And I'm supposed to respect you, but at the moment,

the way you're talking to me, I don't. Yeah. Keith, should we get into some outrush more like we're we're pushing? I know. I was I. Yes, we do need to. But I got like two or three funny stories I want to kind of pull out of them. So let's see. Basically, does your is your dad can listen to this episode? No. OK, so your is your dad can listen to this episode? No, no, okay, so never gonna hear this. He doesn't even have a cell phone like listen to a podcast.

And he definitely still doesn't know what happened to his the window at his house when you were a kid, does he? Oh my gosh, no. Oh, okay. So the buddy I was telling you about that we would do like the WWF stuff and everything. So he didn't have, he didn't know his dad growing up. And we kind of met through football and middle school and we, like stepbrothers became best friends and he literally slept on the floor in my bedroom most nights, but he didn't go home a lot. And so he had a little palette thing that he would slide in and

out, um, underneath my, my bed. And, uh, one night, apparently I farted in the middle of the street and we played this game Dornab. Oh yeah Dornab is spiking Dornab that's like a dead game now I feel. Apparently and so he wakes up. He can't punch people basically that's why I hate it. I think it had to die because. You can't punch people, basically. That's that's why I hate it. I think it had to die because you literally can't punch someone anymore. And so he's way laying on me, right?

And so I sit up like the undertaker and I make a flying leap for the doorknob and I hit it. And then he and I just start fighting. And he he trips backwards and his elbow goes into the window and shatters it in the middle of the night. So we collect all the pieces and at the greenhouses we had glass greenhouses and so we had broken glass all the time. Yes yes yes yes yes we hide it like AndyFray and breaking out of the Shawshank and sprinkling the dirt out of his socks

or out of under his pants. Yes. And so then the next morning, whenever my father wakes up, we tell him, hey, when I got up to go to the bathroom, I tripped on Matt and I stumbled and hit the window and it broke. And he's like, is everybody okay? I said, yeah, we just we cleaned it up. It's all good. He goes, okay. And there was no other questions about it. Good deal. Last story before we go into the other

one. Did you so I'm not going to say what you did in case of something you don't want to share. But did you ever get in trouble or caught for what you did to the night manager at the hotel? Oh, yeah. I can talk about it. It's funny. It is hilarious. It is funny. So senior year high school, me and a couple other athletes had girlfriends that were in the show choir.

And the show choir did a song called It's Raining Men. And so they needed guys to carry stools out and do all these things. So we were part of the show. And that means when we traveled to put on the show, we had a hotel room. And whenever you get high school boys together, the IQ level drops significantly. You wouldn't get any group of men together. Like, we're not smart when we're in Aberdeen. I was trying to give us a little bit of credit. No, Morgan recently said the same thing. She's like, you are genuinely one of the smartest people.

But when you get together with your buddy, Jay, you're one of the stupidest people. And I was like, well, because silliness matters more at that. Right? Yes. Go ahead. Go ahead with your story. Silliness matters more. Yes. We're like dumb ahead with your story. Silliness matters more.

Yes. We're like dumb and dumber, right? And so one of the guys is like, hey, why don't we moon the people as they walk in to the hotel? Because we were on the first floor. And who doesn't think that's a great idea? I don't right now, but I assume at the time. At the time, we thought that was amazing. So we went four wall

across this window. This is a better story. And we were mooning this, this van. And we didn't know who the person was getting out of the van. Well, the person getting out of the van was getting dropped off. And they were going to be the hotel manager for the night. Outstanding. Gotcha. So they know exactly who's in that room, right? So we get the knock and we open the door and it's the person in charge.

They're like, do you guys want to tell us what you did? We're like, Oh, did you not moon someone outside really yeah we did that was us so we got one day of in school suspension. Mind you the four guys that did this are probably the top 30 kids in their class, GPA-wise. We did all the things. We were student council. We did national honor society. Nerds! Nerds, right?

Nerds! But we do one stupid thing and we get in-school suspension. We got a Saturday school and we had to do eight hours of community service dang like damn my principal it also could have been like a sexual assault case too yeah that's like borderline yeah well and so my my my principal when I first started teaching was my high school principal. And he brought us into the room. And he looked us square in the eye and said, I'm sure what you did was funny.

But all the parents of the girls feel that you were a bigger part of the show than they were. And because of that, I have to make an example out of you. And I said, I'm good. Make an example. I thought it was hilarious, except for the fact that it was not a hotel manager. If it was just a regular guest, it probably wouldn't have been a big deal. Awesome. So you went so I know I pull one more thread and then we can move on. If it was just a regular guest, it probably wouldn't have been a big deal. Uh, awesome.

Uh, so you went so, I know I pull one more thread and then we can move on. Uh, so you got, you mentioned that the, your principal basically, so your first job was where you went to high school then you're saying, cause you're actually it's the county rival. So the principal of my high school retired and the county rivals principal couldn't finish. And so they needed somebody quick. And he just stepped in. Gotcha. Okay.

And they just let him stay for another seven, eight years. After he retired. Poor guy just wanted to retire and live in peace. That's funny. Okay. Yeah. So you're still out then. So you're still teaching at your home. So do you so when you when you play like do you still because like where I grew up like at least where I'm like there's two main high schools and like I couldn't imagine like cheering for the other team like even 20 freaking plus years removed later. So you've you've had to you'd literally had to like try to beat your alumni Your your your your alma alma mater for the last 23 years like that's kind of crappy so and

Every one of my buddies from high school reminds me of that Gibson Southerners paying the bills Prince never offered me a job. There we go. Makes sense. Makes sense. All right. Well, I got an FMK and we can do some Rushmore and kind of keep this thing rolling. So we have a little FMK for you. Handpicked selection just for you.

You're going to tell me if you want to F it, you want to marry it, or you want to kill it. So if all that makes sense, we're going to go on. So I'm going to go with some Purdue football player alumni. So we'll really make you squirm here. So we got Mike Alstott, Drew Brees, Rod Woodson, FMK. All right. So I think you got to marry Drew Brees. He's probably the best football player to come through Purdue. It was, it was, I was there when he was

there. His senior year was my freshman year. We win the big 10, got the storm, the field, and just to be next to those humongous individuals was so cool to see. So I think I'm going to marry Drew Brees. I think you can kill Mike Allstott. He was just a battering ram. In terms of like talent football wise, I mean, he was he was a one trick pony. He could just run into people, you know, like Rod Woodson and Drew Brees that had skills and they were able to do multiple things. And so I guess that would be a thing. Rod

Woodson. Yeah, yeah. The funniest thing, the most, I mean, Drew Brees obviously he was the NFL for like most of our lives up until, you know, probably five years ago or so when we retired. But like, this was probably 15 or 20, almost, I don't know, sometime in the last 20 years, he was on a, he was on a, I think he was on an Oprah show once and she didn't know that he had that birthmark

on his face and she literally thought it was a smudge and she went to go wipe it off. You remember that? I don't remember that Oh, so that was like like look as someone if you're a fan of his like you might you'll enjoy that clip Just Google like Drew Brees Oprah I will and I swear like she reaches our six she licks her thumb and then goes to like wipe it off It's like on his cheekbone. I think it's like his upper cheekbone Yeah, literally just a you know, like a little small leaf brown mark on his face. I don't even remember his reaction, but I think he took it well, but it was just, yeah, I'll always remember that's the, you know, that clip back when we actually used to like

have cable and watch TV that wasn't right. Dreaming when we used to be a proper country. Yeah. I wish I could like, like, I can't be as animated as I want to be. Get that deep. Well, yeah, if you wake Steph up again, she's going to kill you. Yeah, I know, right? I got to. Well, tomorrow's a holiday, isn't it? I don't get Good Friday off now.

I got to go to work. Oh, yeah, I'm off tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, so we're going to go all night. Sorry, Keith. That's fine. Everyone knows I'm going to start falling asleep in the next half hour, anyway. Yeah, yeah, so we're gonna go all night. Sorry Keith In the next half hour anyways, you already Doing good He hasn't had a big yawn yet. So he is doing good

I love there was like a multiple people that would say like I love when Keith will like he'll like yawn mid saying something like Morgan nailed that oh yeah, yeah You just yawned horse cockin and she was like it sounds like he's like in a Romantic novel about to get railed by a centaur I Funny and then I was like is this funny, and I said to you and you were like this is real I said it to you and you were like, this is real. That was good. I guess Mount Rushmore is next. Yeah.

I have one and I'm not sure where it's going to go. And then I have another that might be more interesting. I'm going to start with the one where I'm not sure where it's going to go because I'm not sure what the top four inspirational Debo isms means. So because I get motivated through like spoken word. Yep. I provide my athletes and students with some of those as well. And so these Debo isms, I think I have an idea of one of my fellow coaches,

dropped that in there. So, Mount Rushmore. So the funniest one that I said when I coached wide receivers was, you need to put your front foot forward. And I said it with such confidence, like your front foot forward. And I said, it was such confidence. Like your front foot is going to be forward. And the kids just looked at me like, yeah. Yeah.

That's true, sir. Yes. Thank you. But we, we would count off our steps for our routes based off of like having the inside foot forward, but I called it the front foot forward. And so yeah, that was, that was definitely one of the funny ones that I came up with, not on purpose, but just because the way it happened. Another one we use for tennis.

Actually, I stole this from a movie. It's called Rule 76. That was on the list, but I don't know what it means. Okay. Have you seen Wedding Crashers? Yep. So they go through a lot of rules. And Rule 76 is no excuses play like a champion. And so on the back of the team shirt, sometimes we'll put rule 76 and then people will ask the kids, what is rule 76?

And the kids will say, no excuses play like a champion. And that's kind of like our mantra you know we're we're not gonna make any excuses but we're gonna we're gonna try and so that was that's the rule 76 one oh some other debaus here so in in class that organic biochem class I teach, we don't have a textbook for. And so I created a PowerPoint slide for every chapter and there's a bunch of bullet points and I print off the bullet points for the kids and then they can take their extra notes on and stuff like that.

And so they always ask me a question. We didn't stuff like that. And so I, they always asked me a question. That was, we didn't talk about that. And there was a question on the test. I was like, well, there's a bullet point for that. And so I constantly tell them there's a bullet point for that. And then they go back in their notes and they find that bullet point. And I'm like, oh, he's right. There was a bullet point for that. Um, that one's not nearly as funny. Yeah.

That's a good one. You were there. No, it's a, it's a good one. Uh, so what I got three so far. Front foot forward rule 76, but there's a bullet point for bullet point for that. And what else is good? We can do another tennis one. So. They there's a stat out there for high school tennis that over 80% of the points in before the sixth ball is hit.

Like before the sixth time the ball is hit. And so I tell the team, let's be six balls tough. If we can hit that sixth ball, we have a greater percent of chance to win. And so we're going to be six balls tough. And so like the, the players are playing and I'm walking along the fence and if they, they end a point too soon and they mess up, I just, I just yell at them, Hey, six balls and they know exactly what I mean. And then they, they regroup.

And then they're like, okay. Uh, cause it, I don't know if you know much about tennis, but we're, we're not allowed to coach them like, uh like a basketball or a football coach. Cause like a basketball coach is constantly yelling out plays and telling them to do these things or, you know, a football coach is calling a play specifically designed and then they go run it. And then, you know, like that kind of. Tennis is you go out there, you're going to play two games and then we can come

and talk at the fence for a minute. And then you got to go back out there and do it on your own. So I have to have ways to communicate with them in short bursts so that they understand what they need to regroup and do. So like in practice, there's a lot of communication about these things. And so that way in a match, they just have to go do it So you don't have me. Yeah, like you don't you don't have that opportunity. So you have to filter that coaching down to one line Yes, no, that makes perfect sense Yeah

And so there's there's all kinds of things will tell the kids if they if they mess up hitting a ball Because they didn't move into a right position we just yell feet yep and they've been told anytime you hear feet that means you need to move your body better so that you can hit the ball better yeah and stuff like that no that's a good one uh my most famous one was um if kids can become the biggest rock band in the world and they suck, then you can do what you have to do today. And I, I wanted to put that in a district wide to 70 employees. My boss was like, not sure that's good. And I was like, no kiss sucks.

And they made a lot of money. So therefore, like, even if you're half good at this job, you can still do this All right, it's like that's like cauliflower if cauliflower can be a pizza crust you can be anything you want to be I've had some decent cauliflower pizzas I hear today if you look at the macros like it's only like, it's only like 15% less carbs if that. So it's really, I don't know, but Costco has a really good cauliflower pizza. But all right, little unpaid or underrated. I have spent a lot of time adding stuff to that. I don't know if you noticed.

Yeah, I'm just gonna take them all. It went from three to like ten, because I was just adding stuff while we talked. Let's do all ten. Let's do all ten. Six sounds good. All right, so if anyone's not familiar, this game we created all by ourselves,

you know, literally not inspired by anybody else, so unpaid or underrated. So, you know, if Divo here thinks it's not the greatest thing in the world, we'll call it unpaid because nobody wants to be unpaid. And if he thinks it's okay, we'll call it underrated so you know if Devo here thinks it's not the greatest thing in the world we'll call it unpaid because nobody wants to be unpaid and if he thinks it's okay we'll call it underrated so unpaid or underrated big Devo Heights unpaid why is that cute you little fear of heights my friend I actually the height itself isn't the fear. It's the fear of falling from the height

Problem Right the splatter so I I have done better in my older age. I Used to not even be able to get on ladders Okay, because it was it was pretty bad. I can get on our roof to clean out the gutters. I don't like to do it. It makes me a nervous wreck, but I do it because I'm not gonna ask Heather to get up on the roof and clean out the gutters old son. That sounds like a gutter cleaner to me.

Well, I know, I know I cleaned a lot of gutters. As a parent, if you're afraid of heights, you're not sending your kid up there to do the thing you're afraid to do. I will suck it up and do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. So we upgraded during COVID, we got some extra money from the government. And we bought these things that go into our gutters to protect them from filling up from these gutter guards. And so I spent part of that putting those in and I haven't had to get on the roof in the last few years and it's been glorious.

Nice. I need to invest in that because I got to get up once a year and just dig out all the little helicopter things that are clogging the drain. Um, unpaid or underrated Bobby Knight. Who the fuck is Bobby Knight? So I know you hate Indiana, but like, how can you hate Bob Knight? He is he is like the biggest jerks in basketball, but is he unpaid or underrated? It depends on how

you play the game, I guess. It's like one is he one over. He's not the most when he's is he the winning and most winning coach? No, not anymore. He got passed up. They still like top so the Mount Rushmore.

Absolutely, absolutely. And and you can't take anything away from the fact of how successful he was as a basketball coach. He is the coach of the rival. So, you know, you want to say that he's unpaid because of that, but his accomplishments are pretty phenomenal. And you got to respect a guy that he had a system and he ran his system until the day he was no longer a coach. It might have got him fired, but it was him. And he was always that way. He was never anything else.

And as a Purdue guy, I will still say that he was underrated. Nice. I wanted to make you squirm a little bit with that one because I was like, is he going to go is he going to be a homer and literally say he's unpaid or is he going to like, I mean, let's get stuff. I mean, he was he was during our era. I remember like all the highlights of him just losing it on the refs and throwing the chair and all that crazy stuff he did. Definitely wouldn't probably want my if I had my hypothetical kids that will never exist like playing for him at least not to like I mean back then

it was the norm but now it's like I said I don't think it worked out too great at Texas Tech at the end. No. All right. So I'm going to go with the last one here. So I asked my wife Stephanie, she's one of her jobs is chemistry right now. So she's been pivoting from biology to chemistry and is

learning a whole bunch of new stuff. So I asked her to pull an unpaid or underrated for me. So we're going to go with this. I don't know. It should make you should. you should know what it is unpaid or underrated mouth pipetting oh that is absolutely unpaid so you what is it yeah you'll tell the people what it is and like was it was sound like it was from what she described it was common practice in the early stages of chemistry and people literally went mad from it.

Is that making sense? Yes, so imagine you have a straw and you are going to draw up in that straw the most dangerous chemicals known to man with your mouth. Yeah. And that was mouth pipetting. And so you go to the restaurant as a kid, you will pull the liquid into the straw,

you'll clamp it and you'll like shoot it back into your mouth kind of thing and have fun. That was mouth pipetting. And so they would take concentrated hydrochloric acid and pull it up into the straw and or well, it's a pipette but straw is an easier analogy. And if it, if it went too far, you were drinking concentrated hydrochloric acid and that stuff will melt the skin right off of your mouth is,

it is not fun. Luckily we have bold pipettes now. And so you have a little like, uh, well, maybe with the little kids, you know, the, the snot sucker. Yeah. Did you ever use those? And it's like that, but it has a little bit bigger opening that you can put on the end of the pipette and then you just draw the liquid up that way. Oh, I'm glad.

Uh, yeah, she, she, she thought you'd get a kick out of that for early science. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I'm curious though, like time like, was this like 1800s early 1900s? It was like this going into like last year. Like, yeah, I don't know. Actually, it was up until about the 30s that they were doing this mouth pipetting. It wasn't common practice because we didn't really have plastic until, you know, 40s and 50s. And so that's kind of where it originated. Everything was glass, right?

Nathan said during COVID. That was fucking, that's funny. Mouth pipette and when we used to be a proper country, when we used to be a proper country. All right, that's all I got for you. All right. So I get to pick all of these ones I put. No, you can pick three. Oh, no, let's do all seven. Unpaid or underrated?

Crushed red peppers. Oh, those are so underrated. In fact, they they are so underrated that that me and one of my college roommates went to a pizza place and one of the crushed red pepper shakers just found its way into our school bag. That's funny. And so that way in our apartment we could have the the shaker and we just kept refilling the crushed red peppers. And to this day, I still use the same shaker bottle. Oh, wow. That good? Yeah. I love crushed red peppers. Put it on pizzas. I'll put it on pastas. Yeah. Anything Italian. It's going to get some crushed red pepper on it.

All right. I agree. Uh, unpaid or underrated John Christ. John Chris. So he is a comedian. Um, he is the son of a pastor and he makes fun of Christians. And it is absolutely hilarious. He makes fun of like the hipsters and everything.

And I think he's underrated. I think his stuff is hilarious. It is. He he goes, if you go to Chick-fil-A, look at the names of the now hold on, hold on before you do that. Oh, here you have impression. Oh, yes, yes, I did. An impression. All right, you're ready? No, yeah.

He'll do he'll say something and the like and here's the bit. All right Someone will be like hey, can you can you pray for? my kid they you know, they they actually they have like this little scrape on their hand and it it made them cry a little bit he goes I'm not gonna pray for that and he's like no and he starts running around in Pranson that probably wasn't through here as good, but that's that is the impression there. But yeah, like the Chick-fil-A thing. If you go to Chick-fil-A, you look at the name tags.

It's destiny. It's faith and all these names. And that was one of the things that he made fun of the Amish. I know that was brought up on the sisters podcast. He had the whole bowl cut looking thing and everything. So I think he's hilarious, but I don't know. You probably haven't heard of him, I'm guessing. I Googled him when I saw his name on there and then no, but I'll look into it. All right. Um, unpaid or underrated vegetables. Oh, I, I'm going to have to say they're unpaid.

I, uh, I can't eat vegetables. I have tried multiple times. Um, those are, I tell my, that's my food's food. The food. My food eats that. And so I don't wanna take away from my food's food. It's a texture thing really. Even, I still try.

I can eat corn, but as we all know, corn comes out the same way it goes in. You're not getting any nutrients out of that. But like I can't just eat a salad. And is there any vegetable you can stand? I can eat cooked carrots. Does that count? Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely. Okay. Cook carrots like in a beef stew. I can eat cooked carrots. Does that count? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. OK. Cook carrots in a beef stew. I can get behind that. What about chickpeas? Sorry, you guys call them garbanzo beans. I know.

I don't think I've had that. I've had regular peas. And I didn't like peas. No, they're the worst. Yeah, I don't like green beans. Hummus. Cause that isn't that just like chickpeas mixed up? Hummus.

Oh yeah. It's ridiculous. I'm trying to eat hummus. Hummus. I, uh, I'll have to try hummus again. I don't know. Maybe it with my post peanut butter, uh, transition. Okay. I might, I might be more apt to eat the hummus because again it was a texture problem

right and so if you put it into a spread it might be a little more palatable for me. Me and celery and hummus like I will literally Morgan will send me my lunch and it'll be a little dip of hummus and a couple vegetables and I will always come back with vegetables because estimates Exactly how much hummus I'm gonna put on every vegetable So to curb that I just I'm sure it's been around forever but like we just saw like a six-pack of like just like a single serving of hummus. And that's been the greatest thing

ever. Because I would sit there and like a can a medium container of hummus is like two sittings. And like that's if I have like self control. Yeah. So with this, I can like actually milk it for Yeah, we try to do those, but I just finished the whole thing. And then I was bringing back vegetables. And she was like, what's going on? And I was like, that's not enough hummus for the amount of vegetables you're giving me,

but the vegetables are obviously more important. Yeah. No hummus is. Yeah. That's essentially. And then when I run out of, if she gives me more hummus than vegetables, like I have to try not to dip everything else in the hummus. Like that's also a problem. I'm like, well, I'll just finger the rest of the hummus. All right, I'll put my grapes, like she'll put grapes in my lunch

and I'm like dipping those in hummus at some point. I've been doing everything bagel flavored pretzel thin. It's been like my go-to hummus. Yeah, absolutely. Delivery, what device? Again, it's like that joke from the don't mess with the zohan. Where like the dad is like dipping his glasses

into the hummus and like eating it. And I'm like, that's me. That's literally me with hummus all right I think Debo froze a bit there well he'll be back in a second but I'll go ahead and hit you guys with the affiliate ad reads why we wait for Debo's camera to get back going on so we got obsidian ammonia barbell rescue plate snacks home gen con belt belt fed strength, freedom fitness equipment and apparel from the Strength Co.

Use code Unpaid at any of those locations. Help you save you a little bit of money. We obviously have the, you know, our website, Unpaid Intern Podcast. If you guys aren't on there, we've got a bunch of blogs on there. Nate's put a lot of effort on that. I was just randomly on it the other day. You know, I wouldn't say I forgot, but like Trond's of blogs on there. Nate's put a lot of effort on that. I was just randomly on it the other day. I wouldn't say I forgot, but Trond's song is on there. The AI song is on there.

There's a couple other things. So if you're ever bored, go check out unpaidinternpodcast.com. Do us a favor. Make sure you are following on the YouTube. It's a very short and small race, but people are getting on there and doing a race for first comment every now and then. Hit us up with the iTunes ads, the iTunes reviews, the Spotify reviews. Just keep interacting with us on Discord. That's the easiest way to get on the podcast is just be interactive with us on Discord and on Instagram.

That's the only way we know you're actually listening and uh you know you get you you know obviously coming out to events gets you higher up on the list but uh you know being interactive with keith joey and i well no i am keith so wow that'll be funny on the the back end but this all with us well i had like 90 seconds i had to carry the whole thing myself because everyone went away i was like jose and joey wouldn't pete he's like this is a good time to go pee now i'll just let keith swim it is a good time to go pee now. I'll just let Keith swim. It was an awful time to go pee, but at the same time. But God, I drink so much water right now. I wish.

Is he just his face is still there. I wonder if it's what happened. No, no, he's gone. Oh, he's on my screen. It's still as big Dibo, but he's still there. Still four participants. So, yeah, it's well, no, it's just his camera undo. Oh, can you hear us? Undo unmute us. Oh, he's gone. Now. Now he's gone gone now. He yeah, he's his computer died or

Don't know he had he had wired headphones in which is that's nice Anyone listening that's gonna come on in the future get some wired headphones Whatever your whatever device you're using because we have shitty luck with most people when their Wi-Fi headphones or their other Bluetooth headphones I like it. We're just watching Nate lift of weight Try not to be distracted by that Distracting look at him. Mmm. Okay. What is that? What is that? Is that three plates plus a 25 plus a 10? Hold on. Yeah, he's gonna want to yep. It's 485. Okay. Yeah

Yeah, and the keys head on he's got the keys head on the spotter arms would you like the Keith said it's always oh Yeah, Nate should have absolutely his buddy going to Japan. He was like I should We do like the Keith's head. Oh yeah Nate should have. Absolutely. His buddy going to Japan he was like I should have given him the Nate's head. Oh yeah. And then we would have had Nate's heads in Japan. Keith's heads but yeah. Nate's heads. I mean the Nate head is just a speedboat right? I don't know. The the mat the mat, actually we should, that should be a challenge. Like this, this infamous speedboat that Nate's gonna buy with all our money someday for more, for our tens of dollars we've made in ad revenue and sponsor affiliate link money is naming Nate's boat.

Cause like all boats have like stupid witty, like pun names and like that is Crew a scent like that is so like what is what would the the unpaid underrated boat name be and then what you know? You killed that Hmm well until until he comes back Yeah, we might just end up wrapping this up. Give it another 10 minutes or so. So yeah, let's just uh Do we have any housekeeping to do? Any affiliates?

What are we gonna do for episode 200? I don't know. We've talked about that. I need to, we actually need to go, we've all spitballed like 10 different ideas of letting crew DM us and we could just like, I know there was a whole thing about having people record something on their phone, email

it, text it, whatever, but then like trying to get all those audio clips compiled. But like somehow basically, since it is a two year anniversary, the whole gist was, you know, it can be a Q&A, but with the essential with the essence of it being, you know, what does you and you mean to you? Have we, you know, anything like that? Like not, it's not, you know, you're, it's not all about us or anything, but like, what has you and you done for you in the last couple

of years and we can kind of just reflect on talk about what you said in your statement to us. But it's like, I don't want to have it like two hours of people just like, you know, it's not supposed to be the Keith and Joey praise episode. So like obviously throw in your, so in your Q and A's, um, but we do supposed to be the Keith and Joey praise episode. So like obviously throw in your, so in your Q and A's, um, but. We do need to finalize that because we have, we, uh, I'm looking at the calendar

and I got, I got some question marks of what we're going to do and it's just driving me crazy. I'm like, we got to get all this stuff dialed in. So I think genuinely, I think we need to do a competition or a contest of some sort. And I think we need to figure out how to do that that and I think we have like two weeks to figure that out We have like we have like five days because yeah by the time this by the time this will air Well, we mean we yes, we have two weeks but like from time this airs will be recording a year episodes

Yeah, airs will be recording episode two year anniversary episode episode to your anniversary. Hey, welcome back. Oh, my goodness. Is your battery's died? No, it was the Wi-Fi. We we do T-Mobile Wi-Fi.

And so it's a little tower that radiates. And like once a week, we have to reset it. And it just happens to be at 930 at night. So I'm sorry. That's fine. Oh, you're good. That's fine. I wish it was 930.

It would be amazing. We are not professionals. So Joe, see you later in the day time zones. Earlier in the day time zone? Yeah, earlier in the day. All right. So I think you passed on paid and underrated. Although I think I might have had one more.

No, that was the one. No, vegetables was the one he wanted to get off. Yeah, vegetables was the one. All right. Yeah, I had vegetables up top and then you you wrote it again with explanation. Was like, I guess he wants to ask vegetables because I already I guess he really wants to ask it because it's hilarious. Yeah, no, it was good stuff. All right, Debo Do you have anything for us buddy? You got anything you any games you any questions for the host here? What do you got?

Yeah, I got a couple questions What was your first? Massenomics purchase I Think it was one of I think it was the do not curl on me flag I'd have to log in but I'm almost it definitely wasn't a shirt I didn't I bought a couple different banners before I bought shirts or flags I so probably the do you even or the don't lift in me and the lift flag were probably either simultaneous or like the same month. I'm almost positive. Big big big big home gym guy. either simultaneous or like the same month. I'm almost positive. A big, big, big, big home gym guy. So I'm not allowed to explain what it was.

But let's just say I was told by a certain person to message Tanner and ask for a particular product, which was a banner. And it was the last of those banners before they went in the 86. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, I get it. Like it was one of those I saw it in, actually I can say it was Jonathan Oldham. I saw it in one of his videos. I said, I really love that. How do I saw it in actually I can say it was Jonathan Oldham. I saw it in one of his videos.

I said I really love that. How do I get it? And he was like, they're not allowed to sell it to you. But if you ask very nicely through this method, you can get the last one. And that now hangs in my brother's garage gym because he likes Ronnie Coleman more than me. So that hangs down there, but that was my first purchase and I actually had no clue who Mastinomics was at that point. And then I was like, well, I bought something. I might as well listen to your podcast. And, and now we're now. Now it's now. I'm here. Now there are friends.

Yeah. And now it's now. And we're not allowed to say it out loud, but yeah, that was my first ever purchase. God, that shipping was ridiculous. Yeah. So I my first one was the breaking parallel shorts. I used to have those for obvious reasons. Yeah. Oh, I still have those. I might still have them. They're just too long. I don't wear them. They touch my knees.

It's weird. My writing is almost all gone on them. Yeah, I think I won't wear writing on the the new shorts. It seems like it would last because it's a big I think like the the font won't like wear off with the washing and drying like the other like like the OG champion shorts. I'm just guessing it just seems like it's just I don't know maybe that I don't know if I'm just for you know wishful thinking but I do

something about that fabric just makes me think like maybe the maybe the maybe the Screen printing will stick a little better. No, so the key is to not wash your shorts. You just only drive them Yeah, you only wear them to lift and then you hang them up and you smack the chalk off Do that with my you wait long enough that you don't even have to hang them though to sit there on their own I'm like only wash my grip shirt like twice a year. But all my shorts, yeah, they get washed every, maybe every now and then though. I'll go one session extra, but yeah, I don't know. I like clean clothes and a freshly showered body.

Yes, for sure. freshly showered body. Yes, for sure. Okay. Um, all right. You both can do this one. Sure. FMK,

Thundercats, Voltron, Power Rangers. I only know what one of those is, so I'm going to skip this. Oh no. Uh, sorry Sorry Voltron Thundercats Power Rangers, I'm gonna marry Rangers. I was such a Power Rangers kid I could take you right down to the basement right now and show you every Power Rangers toy I've ever had They are all packed away in boxes

My mom went out of her way to find me every five of the Power Rangers original toys. They're all sitting down there because I was such a Power Rangers kid. Also my introduction to heavy metal because that Power Rangers theme was pure speed metal, which was dope. So I could kill Voltron because I don't think I've ever watched a single episode of Voltron. So I guess I would have to marry ThunderCats just because I know of them. No, F. ThunderCats. Yeah. Yeah. But no, I was I was such a Power Rangers kid. They have the same kind of quality where they all assemble together to become this one big entity.

Yeah, the Megatron. Right. Little crew. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. When did Thundercats assemble to become these were going to be? Wasn't it in. Like in the 80s, I thought or maybe I might be wrong. I thought that that that I mean, the 80s were a long time ago.

But I think they came together back when we used to be a proper fricking. Right. Yeah. Well, maybe I'm wrong, but I like the Thundercast the Thundercast were my jam For me and Power Rangers were 90s they were in 80s cuz I would have been old enough to understand or 96 Yeah, the Ochi one. Yeah. No, I was like I was and There's a probably a meme here at some point. I was a Power Rangers kid. I loved the Power Rangers The idea of it was hilarious and so fun to me. I Just I just love how bad the CGI is and those Power Rangers like the the the bad people are just so like

Obtuse and gross looking Well, it was all it was all recycled from China, right? So like the only thing that was actually recorded here was the The unmasked stuff the rest was all recycled from the Chinese show or the Japanese show. I want to say Chinese So like I didn't know that part. Yeah most of what you saw with masks on and villains was recycled from the original show from Asia the rest was with the you know the kids in the

Diner or whatever that stuff was all done here So fun fact the pink Power Ranger The there's a girl who does radio here who was the pink Power Ranger for a little while Yep Yeah, I think they're rigid and the original pink Power Ranger. I think lived in my city for a while Kimberly Yeah, she's Canadian. Yeah, Joe Johnson something Joe. Yeah, Amy. Joe Johnson. Yeah. Yeah, it's Canadian. Yeah, Joe Johnson, something Joe Johnson. Yeah, Amy, Joe Johnson. Yeah. Yeah. It's only her name is Liberty.

I don't know. Of course it is. This work, of course, of course. Probably. Oh, OK. Keith, what is your least fun, most fun about having people training your gym. Who so most fun is just the atmosphere the environment just the camaraderie. Supporting other people in big lifts just the community like just everything you would think of like you know go to commercial i wouldn't have ever even when you say i haven't had that in the commercial gym that's like. You know, go to a commercial, I wouldn't say I've ever, I wouldn't even say I ever even had that in the commercial gym.

That's like that kind of community is really, you only really see that in like powerlifting meats and strong man stuff. And it's just like, that's where I get that from. So just the overall community aspects of the worst thing is having like 10 people try to take a shit at the same time or something, you know, just having, having one bathroom, having a thousand square foot house and having like 15 people in the basement and people just constantly coming upstairs and not taking their shoes off to take a piss and go to the bathroom. And you know, it's,

cause I, the way it's laid out, like we don't have a second bathroom and our bathroom is like in the middle of the upstairs and the basement gym is down there. So they have to go through the living room through the kitchen, through the living room, down the hallway. And it's just like, do you have a sound problem? I'm not going to ask people to piss in the basement. I would love to piss in your sound pump.

I piss in my utility sink every training session, but I'm not asking other people to do that. If you have a sound pump, I will clean it next time I'm there. I actually have the sound pump pretty much like covered up with the flooring, so it's like, see people end up like, to get to the stereo, people end up like walking, like thinking that there's, it's not there. And like, kind of like step into the, cause it's got like a plywood cover, but then I have like the foam flooring over top of it. So it just blends in and people don't realize that.

So I really should like paint it orange or something. Cause people have like twisted their ankle a time or two, trying to screw with the radio. But yeah, just, I don't know, having a home gym is great and all, but when you have 15 people over and you have one bathroom, like my wife constantly says she wishes we had a mandor exit, like a walkout basement so they didn't have to come through our living

quarters essentially. So it is the worst. If I had like a million dollars and can build a standalone building and just could give people a key code and have a bathroom out there and everything, that'd be amazing. But that's not the world I live in. Or my kids showing up and screaming. And you also, how loud it is, too. That's another lease on it.

It's fucking loud. And some of my, like one of my buddies, Wayne's, he's like the loudest talking person I've ever met. It's just funny. So like, why can't, I'll be upstairs peeing myself, and he'll be downstairs having a conversation with someone else on I can hear every word he's saying And I'm like goddamn dude like

But it is I'm not gonna tell people like hey be quiet. My wife's upstairs trying to watch TV It's like I'm not gonna be a dick about like it's just it's like it's once a month for like two hours So it kind of just is what it is But in a perfect world, I'd have a little more soundproofing Good question. All right so top four Mount Rushmore of Your

Massenomics designs for shirts. We'll go with shirts will be in your Mount Rushmore Is this from both of us or just Keith? Yeah, both of you. Yeah, both of you. I'm assuming it's you or what both but you first. You can both. Yeah, you both can do that. Sorry.

Ah, geez. Come on, D-boy. You like you got to be a better host in a podcast by now. You've been on one for two hours. I mean, you should be a pro by now. Like you don't know how to you're not perfect at this yet. Yeah, I'm getting shit. No, it's just a hard. Yeah. Like you don't know how to you're not perfect at this yet. Yeah. I'm getting shit.

No it's just a hard it's a hard question. The weekend warrior is going to be up there every time. And see I think I missed that one. Yeah that that one's up there looks like. I love it. It's the weekend where it's the it Warrior. It's the light blue lift shirt. The Pilsner. It's the Miller light lift shirt.

It's a fine lifestyle one. Oh, yeah. They just called it the Weekend Warrior 20 years ago. No one on the dummy in the gym. I don't know why. Yeah. Raw Power's up there. Get a Grip is up there for me for sure.

And jeez. Ah, jeez. And Geez Geez You know, they they released a sweater And it just has the lift thing on it with the massnomics. Like it was their first I think hoodie that they did did Mass and I was with the M basically like yeah the blue one the blue one and I was just like Everything I've ever wanted of massnomics is this hoodie For sure

and the alien face on my Mount Rushmore for that is Probably the The powerlifting record holder Yeah, cuz I think that one's really funny and that one has been the most where people walk up and go Are you a you? Record holder and no no, I'm old and weak like That's the joke of this shirt I

like I Think that that's the hard thing. It's like, what's my favorite shirt versus what's the best logo, but, um, the, the eight bit strong man. That's just kind of, that's the most meaningful one to me currently, probably. Um, bench in three 15, just cause we all grew up watching stone cold and that's just funny. Um, hmm. The deadlifter one gets a lot of attention.

Like I like ones that like spark conversation and don't like, I mean, the inside jokes are great, but like, like ones that can kind of like be gen pop to which the deadlifter like people will talk to me about the shirt a lot of times. Uh, fourth one. There's so many. I like just run through it to my closet. I know, I do that too. And as I'm looking, I was like, God, don't curl in me as hilarious. Yeah, I do wish I had like just the plain,

I don't know, just like what was you basically, just the M, like the black shirt with just the M, I didn't just admit it, I didn't remember if it says mass, I knew it's just the M like the black shirt with just the M and said It says mass. I know it's just the M right? I don't know. It's M with like the small massonomics print underneath of it I believe But like they've never had one of those like since I've been crew sadly, but I would like to represent that Massonomics is numero. I wanted that one so bad. I wanted that one so bad. Yeah, there's a lot. There's definitely a lot of good ones.

There is the conversation starter for me is the the Pink Floyd play with the plate. With science, I actually my students, I had one of them look at me and they're like, is that supposed to mean like lightweight? Because it's light and it's a way and I said, you know what? You know, it's lightweight. Yeah, I like it. Yeah, buddy. Yeah, buddy. And then sorry, yep. I was just gonna say one of the kids was like wasn't there like some guy that used to yell that a lot The cannon of what this is I'll amend my list a little I'll probably take off whatever the last one I said it but just like the OG logo, which that'd be cool and all, but the bench heavy for sure, I don't

know how I forgot that, that is like my, the Bush light shirt is like the epitome, like that was, that might've been one of the first, I think I bought that in three sizes now, just cause as I've grown, maybe two, I don't know, but yeah, that is, that is a classic to me and like that is, that one might even get more conversation than the deadlifter one for me or at least equal. Well, because everybody benches heavy, right? I don't know. I just I grew up, you know, that was my first beer was a freaking Bush light. So that was that shirt parody kind of hits home for me. that that shirt parody kind of hits home for me. I should probably get one of those because the one of the towns that feeds into the high school has a sign as you come into town

that says Bushlight capital of America. Oh, pretty, pretty big time. Yeah, it's a German Catholic community. They have a like a German festival. And there is a lot of bush light consumed that we can consume. I don't think I've had a bush light and I might. It's been a while. Yeah, it's probably like I don't. I wouldn't buy a. Bin, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't go on my way out. I don't think I would buy a six pack of bush. Like I would.

All right. Bin, Biles could do. All right. Anything else? Um, well, the the the least fun, most fun big Dan stole mine for you, Joey. No. It was the switching from powerlifting to strong man. So I, I wasn't able to figure out another one. That's all right.

I'm glad to listen to big dance episode. That's always, it's always good for us when we know kind of, so how, so, so we know your massonomics journey, what, what, what's your, you and your journey been? How many episodes are, you know, where do you think you're at with us? Probably about a fourth or so. The problem with my job is I have to be front facing with kids. Yep. And then I go and coach tennis for who knows how long. If we have a match like tonight, I left a match early to come here.

Oh, damn. Sorry about that. We had already won it. So I felt OK. I was like, it's the JV's playing just a couple more matches. It'll be fine. Say, girls, have you heard of unpaid underrated? I gotta go. Well, they always look at my videos and are like, what is massonomics?

And I'm like, you wouldn't understand how awkward, um, unpaid or underrated having your students follow you on Instagram. Uh, so it's, it's actually unpaid for me because my students will, will initiate. I don't initiate any of it. And so they, they talk and then they'll, they'll watch my videos. They'll like my videos. And like some of the big football guys will walk up and like, and that was a pretty good lift.

And so all the kids, I would say, pretty well know that I work out, and from what I've been told, they are very intimidated. And I like to keep it that way. You know, as a, as a teacher, you got to be careful what you put on social media and we get emails at least twice a year from our union rep saying, be careful with what you post on social media, et cetera, et cetera. And I'm like, I'm just posting lifting videos and my family.

If they have a problem with my lifting videos and that's, you're probably safe. You're the coach. Like people need to be seeing you lift. Like that makes sense. You know, you're like posing with your skin tight jeans or whatever. Yeah. And so that also feeds into like the players know that I lift and I'm not going to ask them to do anything that's impossible. And so that's more buy-in right. For me as their coach,

you do all your lifting in the home gym or do you work out of the school with some? Uh, so whenever I decided to start the home gym in 2012, I started with a, I had a buddy that did fabrication of like gears for mining and I just asked a, I had a buddy that did fabrication of like gears for mining. And I just asked him, I was like, hey, could you put some one inch square tubing together, weld the corners and drill a few holes in for me to squat and bench out of?

And he's like, sure. It was the longest way to explain a squat rack. But no, I could see having to do it to someone that might not be familiar. That's just right. And so he did that and it was like one hundred fifty bucks and I squatted and did everything out of that for a while and I did it in a two car carport. It wasn't like even in clothes. So once I started that I was just I was all in on it. And I just slowly added things as we progressed. And the reason we moved to this house is because.

What is Nate about to pull? Oh, my God. Is that six or seven plates? That's a rack. Rack pull. Oh, you stop Ripple. Oh, you stop it. You. Oh, there it is. Six. Five plates.

Five plates. Okay. Okay. Sorry. Back to your story. He's distracting us. I'm checking off your camera. Yeah, you're good.

An hour ago. You stop. It was like. So the whole reason we moved here is because it has. us. I'm checking off your camera. Yeah, you're good. An hour ago. You stop. It was like, so the whole reason we moved here is because it had a space to put the gym. Oh, man. I, I, I get up at four o'clock in the morning to work out before everybody else does anything so that my lifting doesn't interfere

with any family time and stuff like that. That's admirable, but dang, that's gotta be hard. No pre-workout, just, oh, I guess you could start on pre-workout early, but then that's like starting caffeine that early and then trying to still be awake at 10 o'clock at night. Basically the next day it feels. Yeah, well, today is tough.

Luckily, like Joey, I don't have to work tomorrow. Yep. But normally I'm in bed by 830 if I can help it. And so that's why I miss out on a lot of those live recordings and the pre-show. Discord as a whole, you probably don't catch. Do you ever catch yourself trying to catch up on discord or is it just like so far? You mean like last night when there was 500 plus messages. Pre show. Pre show.

Dan saying it's not real. It's not real. I don't believe her. He did specifically stay up just for that and then logged off as soon as they started the episode. Yeah, he's like, I can't watch it. I have to have it on Monday. No, I'm with him on that one actually. Well, if that's all you've got for us. Yep, I'm that's all I have for you today.

Well, you've already hit the affiliates. So where did they find you guys? Devo, where you at buddy? Uh, I'm on Instagram at coach Devo. I don't have any other real socials out there. And you want people to call you Devo in person or you want them to call you Kyle or what's Devo is fine. I've, there was a whole big thing actually about that. Our school wrote

a an article in their newspaper about how students call teachers by is it Mr. DeBoard or something like that, like to show respect. That's weird. I hated that. Are you just coach? You know, yeah, coach Debo. I mean, if a kid in class says hey Devo I'm gonna respond yeah if their tone and the way they approach me is more about the respect than them signifying mister and using my full last name like that that's to me doesn't matter and matters to so many people right so weird like I remember one day

One of my nieces called me Joey and I was like, yeah buddy and they were like you call him uncle Joey And I was like no like they approached me with proper like Context there's no problem with that and they were like no, you're their uncle, they have to call you uncle. And I was like, No, I don't care. And they went, Well, I care. And I'm like, Yeah, but that's on you. Yeah. I'm not going to enforce your rules. Because you care more than I care. So yeah, I'm with you on that one. I don't care. Yeah. If you're calling me Devo, that means we're probably friends. Good deal.

Let's do it. We'll see you here in a couple weeks at home. Jimcon, where are they going to find you at, Joey? Joey, underscore, Malesco, Malesco, if you see me on Facebook, no you didn't. All right. Keith Honey got 73 on Instagram. More importantly, go follow my orange gem than a wine seller and we'll see you next Tuesday.