Unpaid And Underrated - 106: 106 : I’m Gonna Go Hangout With My Internet Buddy

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Derek. They dive right into great topics like birds, skateboarding, things crü say, caffine consumption, and fighting fires. Links Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @dmasheen (https://www.instagram.com/dmasheen/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Derek.

Welcome everybody to episode 108 of the unpaid and underrated podcast, a podcast foregrew by crew and relentlessly rocked. Yeah, that's almost words. Yeah, relentlessly rocked. That's almost like my last name. I was like, where is he going with this M word? And what the crew do to each other? Let's not go there.

Wow. Anyway, I'm joined by Big Keith, obviously, because of the inappropriate jokes. Howdy, howdy. And joined by Big Derek as well. Hello. Welcome, welcome. Should we get it started?

Anybody drinking anything they care to share? Nothing fancy this week. Yeah, I just got a Waterloo, little blackberry. Blackberry lemon, very nice. Anybody wearing anything cool? Just started wearing a garage gym experiment shirt. It was just there and shout out to them getting the garage gym radio silent. Nice like Mike and Kyle Kaizen.

One of the Kyle's crew they interviewed Koop this week so it was pretty cool. It was a pretty big get for him so congrats guys. So I'm wearing their shirt. And I see the squats tea over there Yes, sir. Yeah, I was going back and forth. Yeah, what was squats? I couldn't find the what's what's my Natural for life is the one I'm liking right now. Yes. It's like that. Yeah, just like the blank, right? Me too. And actually and I pulled it out of the things that don't fit anymore and it still kind of fits and I was like No, I'm still gonna wear this this. Oh, yeah. Yeah This will show it all off. All right. All right. You want to get right into last week's episode, Keith? Remind me what it was about.

Derek, remind us what it's about, buddy. I remember some of it. You're talking about just the main cast, the trip to Ohio, the gym tour. Yeah, that's the one. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was just told. Okay. So they did the blow-, the trip to Ohio, the gym tour? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just... Okay, so they did the blow-by-blow recap, essentially, of their travel. So yeah, they almost missed the flight. That would have been horrible. It was pretty cool.

They did a very good job, kind of, given everybody they saw, like at least a 30 to 60 second kind of little like flip of, without spoiling too much for the upcoming tours. And definitely gave a little teasing of some of the, I'm very curious of what the, if they said Kevin made something or yeah, built something that was like a product. It was like, oh, this would actually be a cool thing

to have. So I'm curious what that is. I'm anxious to see a couple of the home gym. Like I'm buddies with a lot of those guys So it's supposed to be really really like the longer this goes on and the longer we know each other and stuff It's just like it's literally just watching towards your buddies It's not even like people you kind of sort of know it's people you really like This is my friend that I have had dinner with and hung out with on like a half dozen occasions

So it's really cool to see all our friends get their, uh, get their flowers, if you will, on some of these YouTube tours. So, uh, uh, I think my favorite thing was when, uh, Tanner, when they were referencing, um, you know, RIP Nate and that it was, uh, Tom's buddy, Nate, not Nate's buddy, Tom. So that, that, that about broke me when I was watching that. Uh, I think I was driving actually, because I don't think I actually, maybe I was watching that Sunday night, I can't remember, but yeah, that was my good.

So for all that, I will go ahead and give it a five out of five Ohios. Which is still a negative rating. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey. What do you got Derek, anything? No better than a four, Jeff. No, you know, I just kind of

Really you summed it up really well All the people that I've met through, you know, Masonomics It's a you said you develop friendships with people like from different states and whatnot And yeah, it's just really cool seeing all their stuff see them in the discord see them on the YouTube here mentioned on the podcast So yeah, I guess I'd have to just you know, all that being considered probably give it five out of five. Right. All right. All right. Five out of five. Tom's buddy, Nate. That's that's really funny. And especially after I put out the the theory there about Nate not really existing anymore. And Tom

killed him. I mean, is it a theory? I feel like our group chat now is just me and you going back and forth. I and you know we get some we get some stock answers every once in a while. One day we should just say um well what is it uh instructions unclear send something else see if Nate responds. But be careful Keith or not Keith, Kevin. If they put out the thing that you invented, Rogue's gonna steal it. So just, yeah, just make sure that like, you've got some patents going before that video's released

because, you know, I hear there's a big company out there that likes taking things and then putting it out there as their own. So I'm gonna go ahead and give that episode five out of five stolen patents. So anyone near South Dakota this week? Anyone in the what probably call it? I would say south. So this is the May 17th. So this will already be air. But so I guess there's no

point of trying to get people to go out to it. So, but if, if you, if, if you are listening to this and you did not make it to the, uh, the build fast for me, a throw down in Watertown, uh, you know, you hope you're kicking yourself in the ass now, cause anytime crew get together and there's more than two or three of them, it's worth a couple hour drive. It really is like, it's just fun. That's this week. Uh, unless my January, February, March, we yeah, we're in May and it's 17th. Wish I'd remembered that. Oh, right,

all right. Yeah, that would be two days from now. So, and when you're listening to this, it's in the past, you know, because just like big, uh, Grant over there on the OK Podcast, we're coming from the future. Uh, but yeah, that should be awesome. Uh, that should always get a couple good videos too, even just like the

Mastanomics Vlog. Hopefully that's one that like, that one almost has to be a little more time sensitive you think. Cause like seeing a blog from like that tour or that you know, that meetup like in August after Lift Hard, Live Easy might not hit as good as it would like as like a build up to Lift Hard. So I think that'd be kind of a cool, it would be, I would you you know challenge them to kind of make it their road to the Arnold video or road to the lift hard live easy if you know if you will so that should be cool someone that'll be there that did you see what Moe had posted on Instagram a couple times say I think he had a story kind of for for Zach specifically because it wasn't exactly that it talked about the leg extension that he doesn't like it the Mastinomics gym

So Mo put a note on it for Tanner You know and addressed it as Zach and then he gave us a little Zach shower tour of the the Mastinomics gym shower and someone to think called it out like there was a What was it? I can't remember what the was it back scrubber? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's what it was I was like is that a communal back scrubber? And there seemed to be a shit ton of different body washes and stuff in there. So the fact that Zach is the only person that uses that shower, unless that's where people just like, unless I could see someone like at their house,

they just have like an inch of soap left. And there's a common donate this to the Masonomics gym shower. Like, I don't know. It's just like, how do you get so many random like half bottles, like not even like, like, I don't know. I just got a kick out of that. So that was that. I don't know. It's just like, how do you get so many random, like half bottles, like not even like, I don't know. I just got a kick out of that. So that was that. What else did we have?

The Elite FTS video dropped today. That was a long one. So I know I watched it in the background with my GPS as I was driving. I don't know if Joey got a chance to watch any of it. No, I watched all day. But it was good. I always like to see Tanner interview

like people in their own space. It's kind of like that, like Dave getting interviewed But it was good. I always like to see Tanner interview people in their own space. It's kind of like Dave getting interviewed in his own place is kind of cool, I guess. You don't see a lot of people, I suppose, like you're not going to go into someone's house. And I mean, I get like Dave, I've listened to Dave interview a ton of people,

so getting the roles reversed on him. And it was just a home gym guy and a barbell connoisseur and everything. I kind of wish he had more answers on specific barbells. When he was like, what's your favorite barbell? And he just shows him all these ones that didn't tickle my fancy at all. So I kind of was curious of what power bars and squat bars and deadlift bars do you guys use there?

That would have been the meat and potatoes that I would have liked to have gotten into. But all in all, it was a massive thing. And they were able to cram a pretty good gym tour into a short amount of time so I enjoyed that she gets you a tour. I started watching it honestly and Saga came into the room and just started dad dad dad dad this is boring this is boring this is boring is that Tanner is that Tanner this is boring and I was like I'm not watching this then I'm sorry I put it on a chance to watch it I've never heard that's like the most audible birth control I've ever had

No, it's cute as hell because I get it well, yes both my kids know who Tanner is at least Because he's got a very you know distinctive look to him tell me they don't see him as often So it's dad Tanner dad, dad, Tanner boring. Turn it off. And it's like, you know what? Fine. I think that is it. So that definitely has to be in the runner, you know, in the, in the category

for episode title, was it, uh, you know, Tanner boring or something? Uh, what about you, Derek? Do you get a chance to watch any of it? But, uh, no, I haven't. Um, I listened to the, uh the I listen to most of my podcasts. I don't really do much on YouTube, really. Gotcha. Yeah. That's a whole different monster.

Long form YouTube is hard. Like for me, I don't for me, it's hard. Like if I'm going to watch a movie, I'll watch a movie. If I'm going to watch TV show, I'll watch TV show. The idea of anything over a five to six minute YouTube clip. I'm just like, that's not what YouTube's for. Yeah. Yeah. My ADD kicks in a little too hard. So yeah, yeah, I could be watching music videos.

What am I watching this for? Yeah. Yeah. Like I intended watching old 90s music videos. There you go. The last thing I had on general topics was I kind of just threw this in last minute because it was a couple of the crews. had a say oh hey I missed that like how dare you oh yeah that would forgot that one that was a whole thing yeah I'm pretty excited about that when you want to do yours first we'll finish with that

one or do you want yeah whichever one will go longer do less yeah mine will be like a minute probably so a a few people, specifically as Big Joe Lisa tonight was kind of asking like, hey, do you guys post the, you know, your links to your podcast live so we can listen, listen along? And I told him I would send him a send it to him. And I definitely forgot, but I'm not going to do that now because it's we're already in too late. But that was just more of a kicking it around for its debate, for a debate in person here with Joey of like, is there value for us to put it in the public discord just for people to tune in if they're not really past guests?

Cause it's currently outside of a couple episodes. We've never done that. And I don't, I don't know that there's a lot of people that would want to listen. And also I don't know how much more work it adds for the host of the zoom that has to mute everybody coming in and kill the cameras. Because when I have a bunch of videos pop up on my screen, it's annoying as shit.

So I don't really know. I mean, being the guy that has the new laptop and can actually control this kind of thing, having 30 people join for the 200th episode To your episode whatever Is like It's a ton of work Right and there were times like you guys were ragging on me like you didn't unmute them or You're gonna be to the wrong person like it just becomes essentially that I'm not even paying attention anymore

So I don't think that it's a thing. I'm not interested in that's what I figured we would So I don't think that it's a thing I'm not interested in. That's what I figured we would. That's kind of what I was especially unless like I mute all and turn off all videos. But then what do you then I have to go through the when do I kick them out to make sure that they actually like tune in and increase our listenership and things like that. Right. Like I just yeah it's it's it was more just one, someone like, yeah, someone point blank asked me today and I was just kind of like, huh,

maybe we could. I think the correct answer is sometimes we do. Sometimes we don't. Yeah. And you hate an underrated is wild like that. Yeah. And big, big Joe, when you're listening to this, just, uh, you know, you have to be a guest and then you'll get in that private discord and then you can, uh, you know, you have to be a guest and then you'll get in that private Discord and then you can, you know, see the links every week. The private Discord that is slowly increasing

to 100 people that are in the regular Discord and really isn't that private anymore. So like, if we don't kick anyone out of our Discord, and like so in like five years, if enough, if somehow enough people have left Masanomics Discord because Tanner kicks them out when they're you know Supporting membership runs dry like ours could write like theoretically it wouldn't happen But like mathematically theoretically like if we go on for five years and somehow their numbers plummet, but we don't kick anyone out

That's not crew anymore. Like we could have more people in our discord, which would just be stupid and not When we started this this like this Discord is literally just the other Discord. Yeah. There's not a whole lot of talking in there. I mean, you guys have the rest of the wrestling channel, but like 90% of it is I invite someone new there's going to be a guest in the next month or two. Like as soon as they're scheduled, they get an invite and then like 20 people will welcome them with emoji and that's about it.

We don't really have like a much,'s not much discord on our discord, really. Yeah. Unless it's really good for show prep, though, and we do roundtables and do show prep and stuff like that and make sub channels for that's really good. But I don't know, given given the masses, the link and having just people tune in for 30 seconds and just making all these windows pop open on the computer screen for joy, I don't think it's worth it. So probably not guys. If there is a huge, if there's a hundred people to DMS and say we demand it, we'll think about it, but still probably ignore you. Yeah. Well, I won't. I'm not on Instagram. Everything is Keith on

Instagram, especially if they say Keith here, by the way, then you know, it's really Keith Tyler got me with that. I feel like to a couple people Like shared something with him and I get that's like it takes me back sometimes. I'm like wait what? Keith here by the way is still yeah Yep, I've got a weird one and I'll pose the question and then I'll let you guys answer it and then see if if you guys have the same answers as me because it did come from an actual conversation. Is Derek I'll start with you. Is there a thing that you have just started saying or like just something that's become natural to you but only because of crew like a phrase or just something that's become natural to you, but only because of crew. Like a phrase or just something that is so naturalized

because of crew that you expect the rest of the world to understand what it means. I have to give that some thought. The first thing that comes to my mind, I don't know that it was it wasn't strictly because of crew, but it came back because of podcast is a pool beans. You say that all the time as a kid and, you know, kind of, you know, hadn't really heard in a while. I was like, oh yeah. And I do find myself saying that more and more unironically. Um, yeah.

But that gives us further thought. I'd say cool beans would be my answer. Uh, I'll explain kind of where this comes from. There's, there's two instances that, at work, most of us know what I do by now. So we were just talking to people about traveling, okay? And these are just, they're customers, but like we end up talking for let's say half an hour to 45 minutes sometimes. And they were talking about traveling to the US.

And they were like, where do you go? And I was like, oh, I go to South Dakota a lot and when you're from this side of Canada you don't go to South Dakota on purpose very often right and they're like oh for Sturgis right and I was like I had to think I was like no not at all and it was just so funny how nonchalantly I was like, I just go to South Dakota a ton. And it's only because of crew. I've been to Aberdeen now twice, Sioux Falls.

There's no other reason for me to go someplace as far away and remote as South Dakota. Usually if you're in Canada, you go to Florida or California or one of the southern states to get out of the cold. And I'm like, no, I just go to South Dakota. Usually if you're in Canada, you go to like Florida or California or like one of the Southern states to get out of the cold. And I'm like, no, I just go to South Dakota a lot. And then the other one was Morgan talking to me about putting bird feeders out.

And then I was like, well, Cody says that we should sanitize the bird feeders to make sure we don't spread disease and don't put a hummingbird ones out because, you know, they memorize their roots. And if you take it down, suddenly they might starve. And then I was like, like I only know that because of crew. Well, did all, I thought, was it just hummingbird?

Well, I guess it'd be also all hummingbird, all bird feeders need sanitize and specifically. Yeah, but hummingbird ones, if you put it out the feeder, then they'll go back to the feeder. And if it's not there, they'll just die. Cause they're stupid. Yeah. Brains are so tiny. I'm saying it's just because their metabolism so high, like they have to have a

certain like refill stop, you think? I can imagine that. But also, like, they're not going to memorize where all their food is. They have to, you know, their, their little tiny dumb brains, because they're hummingbirds. But I just thought that was funny that like, at that point, I looked there and I was like, what has crew given me? Like, I have bird experts and rock experts. I have all of these people that we just like, nonchalantly talk about.

But I do think the, where do you go? Oh, South Dakota, to Sturgis? And then I had to, I almost said, what the hell is St you go? Oh, South Dakota to Sturgis. And then I had to, I almost said, what the hell is Sturgis? And then I remembered. And then I was like, what? No, I go to Aberdeen and they're like, where's Aberdeen? And I'm like, that's a good question.

Yeah, I mean, it is beautiful out there. You know, I was kind of skeptical about first time going through, but then, you know, you get out there, especially in the summertime. Obviously you haven't been there in the winter but uh yeah just you know nice skies nice lakes all that kind of stuff yeah you get a western part when you go into towards Sturgis man that is like great motorcycle riding so yeah yeah we'll make it in that a little bit later we'll get the guest on the horn um my answer basically i i don't think i've ever heard the

word like druthers i don't think i've ever heard until like i I don't think I've ever heard the word like Druthers I don't think I've ever heard until Like I really don't think like like I had to Google it to see if it was a real word at one point Cuz I'm like this can't be a real like how have I like lived to be like in my late 30s and never heard this Word before and then it's a method but then I did take that thing like until you hear it the first time and like really No, it's a thing like I do hear it the first time and like really know it's a thing, like I do hear it, not necessarily in casual conversation, like I think I've heard it on a couple other podcasts maybe, and then like maybe in a TV show, but like I definitely hear the, I've heard it in pop culture like less than five times like ever outside of Mastinomics. So Druthers would

be the top of my list. I asked Stephanie her answer for what things that I said, and she kind of answered for herself. And she's like, well, I don't really know what you say. But she said, she says silly goose now a fair amount, just like a word and stuff. She did mention Hayes in the Barn. That's one I had never heard of. And then I guess I'll close on one that like is mainly from our podcast, but just asking people about their poof. If they have any good poop stories or like just the concept of a quotation mark

good poop story. So like, I don't know, we're not the first ones to do it. It's still like, it's not something I thought I would regularly say or ask her brought up. I also, I don't want to take credit for it, but I do think she boot Has definitely made its way into a lot of people's lives Based the term the term Keith head or Keith's head like that's like that's not what people would have thought it meant a couple Check out my Keith head like everybody Yeah, but even even my kids say Shibut now and that's... Those speed pet signs were clutch at the lift. Yeah, I have mine here.

Yeah, oh yeah, they're nice. This is also where I take my work calls and interviews from. And it's very funny because they'll be like like at the end of it will like the interview where you will leave or like some important people will leave and then somebody will go Joey who is that on your wall behind you and I'm just like you don't know I know you I do but because I'm so close to it oh oh it thinks it's another head yeah so like I'll lean in I'll lean in and it'll unblur. That's super like, who's that?

And I'm like, Oh, I don't know if I have time to explain this. Yeah. The zoom backgrounds and zoom blur is the best thing. I, uh, the only negative, I guess, is I wish it did because I, I've been lately, I've been trying to turn the light off completely in the room I record in, but it definitely like with me using a background background it makes me disappear a lot more often, but having a dark room is much better than having a bright room. Yeah.

All right. I think that rounds out the majority. Derek, I know you're a big social media guy. You always see out there on the... not really, but you think there's anything we missed in Mastinomics world or lifting culture or anything like that that we missed um Well, the one thing I would say that I've seen a lot of lately is a big mats mostly squad videos reels He seems to have a lot of fun with his lasers in the in the gym. Oh, yeah. Yeah

Yeah I feel like that's uh, he's always got a a new laser he's pulling out of his butt somewhere like I get like whole contraption. Like I don't know. I think he actually I think my favorite post about it was when he actually had to turn them off and get some work done because it was too distracting. Yeah. Even I get sick of the lasers. I just I think it's hot as it's hot as the Dickens in this room. I'll be back in a second. I'm just going to go and open a window. Yeah. But yeah, as far as Matt's laser, like I couldn't do anything in a seven foot basement to have any kind of light show like that.

It would just be like in your eye. Like you almost have to have the extra height or you're just like, it's just obnoxious. I'll get out, I think. Yeah. I mean, I definitely saw some other. So now World's Strongest Man's kicked off by the time this is airing, it's probably over, I'm guessing. And then I did the IPF had extended the knee sleeve band.

Shocking. Yeah, they're letting, well, no, extended is in, I guess, with hell. Yeah, yeah, they withdrew it. Yeah, they're allowing, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're going to allow the stiff sleeves outside of the Hanzuans because they're like having beef with them and through the end of 2026 So for I don't think anyone in crew except maybe Jose is an IPF is an IPF lifter And he just switched over to power of the America. I think the majority of anybody else is either gonna be you know untested divisions or

You know USAPL which doesn't really follow the IPF anymore. So not super relevant, but I did watch a little basement Brandon video on it. And I was just like, it's so funny. Like the amount of drama and all these sub niches that we're in. It's just like, there's drama in everything. There's home gym drama. There's power lifting drama.

There's strongman drama. There's so much drama in every niche. It's wild and what do I call that the human sphere bozo shit yeah I'm so mad about the IPF sleeves oh do you compete in IPF no oh do you wear stiff sleeves no then what are you mad about it's the principal it the fuck is not get out of here bozo I have said it's the principal to her handful of things On somebody else's behalf it's bozo shit

It's not entirely inaccurate I guess Big Derek, do you have a Mastinomic sponsor? Do you want to hit us with boss? Sure, I just have a very very shortomics sponsor or do you want to hit us with Boss? Uh, sure. I just have a very, uh, very short one. Kind of trying to keep it pithy. Uh, Mastinomics, uh, lifting podcast about nothing. When you're here, you're big. Uh, it's a podcast where lifters of all strengths and sizes gather to cheer each other on, pick up some heavy water cooler talk. Mastinomics, when you're here, you're big. That's fair. That's fair. Very, uh, very quick and to the point. We like it. We'll take it. I also, I'm very concerned that our podcast is heavy water cooler talk.

Yeah. I figure, you know, heavy, like heavy, like play, you know, just play on the, on the, right. But then, uh, someone else in the discord did post that the other day. I thought, yeah, it really is kind of like your water cooler talk. Take a break. Yeah. And yeah, at least you get to control the conversation a little bit, right? Choose what channel you're going to dive into, whether it's the food or the get strong, stay strong. Use your strength. Yeah. All right. Should we get our guest on the horn? Yeah. Let's kick all those listeners out. Shit. I haven't even checked. Do we have any? did? I actually I did end up saying we were recording like what are we doing? I did it. I got a fucking better be I did I ironic I did end up sending Joe the link on Instagram. So if he pops in let him watch but

We'll see Alright big Derek. Is that you? Hey, how's it going? That's me. Hey, I'm great. Was that an island reef water water drink koozie you got there. Oh no this one is actually not mess and i'm asking my mess on this one over there this is a buddy's baby shower. I picked up a reference i'm green was nice yeah this is the department one of yours does look island reef if i'm honest. It is a nice color it's a mint color some might say So Let's start with who are you?

Give us your Instagram. Give us your discord. Oh gosh, let's see Instagram at the machine and discord on big Big mister the law Um, yeah, my name is derek. Um firefighter in uh in virginia Not much. Uh, I don't know. Uh, what are you looking for specifically? That was it just like Somebody's listening and they're going who the hell is this guy? Like how are they gonna tie you to who you are in discord or or?

Yeah, or whatever goes on there right. Yeah. If you see if you see the badge icon that has Judge Dredd that was my back when I gamed a lot I would be the law which was which would be Judge Dredd and then yeah so it's kind of my handle I picked it over from. That makes more sense because like I knew you were in you know a first responder but then it's like wait is he not a firefighter like is he like is this like is it is is is this a cop thing like Mr. The Law but like I'm so confused but now that it's like a video game and yeah because Judge Judd is the law yeah exactly and there's there's also a nice time with this old show called a um video game high school um and one of the main characters in there was also the law so it was like this great double entendre but

Okay, I want to talk about judge dread a lot, but we'll move on dude Carl Urban's judge read, right? I've watched it so many times. I finally ended up buying it cuz I was like, okay, I gotta stop hoping it's on streaming like a very a very obvious homage to the raid. Like the entire concept of that Jackie Chan is that gently with the raid, which none of them actually. And I actually, I couldn't tell you any of the guys' names. I just know the one guy's in it. That was a house. Was it not from on back? Fuck my buddy. No, yeah, it wasn't.

It wasn't Tony Jha. No, it was a relatively from North American standards unheard of guy. Which is weird because there was a lot of famous Americans in it, including Cersei Lannister. She was in it. And was in it. The one guy that was in it, I wish I can remember his name

because he's amazing in everything he's been in. He was also in, bear with me while I think about it, Boy Kills World, that one. He's the feral looking guy. He's really short and he has like no teeth and long hair and a mustache. Like he's in everything.

He's awesome. But yeah, so anyway, like he's in everything. He's awesome. Yeah. So anyway. Carl Irving's Judge Dredd, I hate to say it is easily better than Sylvester Sloan's Judge Dredd. Absolutely. Yeah. You have to be honest about it. Yeah, I got to be honest. So what brought you to Mastinomics? I was really just looking for a different podcast to listen to.

I think the first episode I ever listened to was the one, it was either the one where they interviewed Rip or the one where they interviewed Ed Cohn, like one of those early ones. And so I just kind of, then, you know, once I subscribe to the feed, you pick up a couple. I would say my big involvement though with Mastinomics probably came when I, I don't know if you remember, they had the, they don't know if you remember they had the, they had the billboard thing going where they said, Hey, come get a picture in front of our billboard. We'll give you a t-shirt. Um,

obviously it's a huge joke cause no one's going to go to Aberdeen just to do that. Right. I was like, ah, I wonder if I could swing that on a trip someday. And that was kind of the beginning of that thought. And uh, yeah. Yeah. You went on your motorcycle, didn't you? Yeah. Yeah. So I had a friend. So my friend out in Colorado was getting married. So I had plenty of time off. And so I just took some extra time

kind of planned a motorcycle trip. So from East Coast, West Virginia, or West Virginia, from East Coast of Virginia through West Virginia all the way through the Central States up and basically decided take a little detour, go to South Dakota. Obviously, it's not a little detour, right? But yeah. Yeah, from Colorado. isn't that like 11 hours or something from

Colorado or something? It's yeah, it's a, let's see. It took me one. It took me like three, two or three more days of riding after I left South Dakota to get to Colorado. Um, I was going to winter park. So yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a long ride for sure. It was worth it.

And you did that, you did that pre and he lifted, like that was, I'm gonna guess that was like 2021, 2022? Yeah, I think it was 21. Yeah, it was like, it was at least a year or two prior to it, it was hard. Cause it was like, who the fuck, you were like one of the only, like no one else had gone to South Dakota.

Like no one else had been to the gym except like Jack and Homeless or something. Like there wasn't there wasn't like known people that have like traveled into the gym very often yeah it was the I think was the year before the lip the first lift hardly yes I'd be 22 then I guess and that's yeah yeah and then it's actually it's funny you bring that up too because like while I was on that trip the episode where the first I think was a Canadian visitor dropped in so they had like one drop in

before me as I'm doing that, you know, I'm planning this trip for like months. I'm like, cool. I'm going to be the first one to do this. And then your second, uh, that's funny. Yeah. Yeah. But it was, it was a lot of fun and actually talking. So I got the chance to talk to Tanner that day and just, um, you know, kind of

hanging out in the parking lot, shooting shit, um, gave me like, uh, the top of John's recommendations. I'm, you know, stupid shit like that. Um, but it was a lot of fun and it was almost like, uh, I would have thought I went to high school with them kind of thing. And so that was like, that was what kind of convinced me, Hey, next year for the lift, I'd love easy. I'll come back. And then it's really interesting. Cause almost everyone you meet is some version of that. Like you're strangers, but you version of that like you're strangers But you kind of feel like you've known each other for a long time. Oh, yeah That's awesome, man

That was uh that that probably made it easier to want to come back for all the other stuff too and like to make The trip to the Arnold and everything just like knowing all these good experience like not not having a bad experience yet Basically, it's but that's awesome. Yeah, I said I've remembered that like I was like 90% sure that was you that did the bike trip but I don't think it showed up in our notes anywhere it didn't and I remembered it halfway I was like I was I was gonna I was like this has I it's gotta be him I don't think it's anybody else but uh yeah yeah yeah it's stuff there are so many people in the discord too it is hard to keep oh god yeah it's a very active discord and you're in your and your instagram not being like you know super vocal with well you've actually you've

you definitely even post a lot more like lifting shit in the last couple months it seems like before it was just like post that didn't have your face in it like at all and i'm like who is this is this the guy that i met in abradean or not i'm so confused on who the fuck this is yeah i'm really bad with social media like that that I tend to just post pictures of stuff that I see and do. I almost always forget to take pictures of myself and post those so I've been trying after so I fall out to a punk rock show with big Toby. I'm kind of hang out with him those the second time I hung out with him or whatever. Um, and that, and he, I don't know, he has, he always posts in those videos of him lifting and looking strong. And I was like, huh, maybe I should do that too.

I don't know, participate a little bit, but yeah, that's kind of the thought keeps me a little more honest with, uh, skipping workouts too. So that's what the, uh, the big trove Toby trip that you weren't already out there for like family or anything like you specifically went out to go watch a show and then just got some lifts in? Um, you know, actually, probably the genesis of that was whatever was going on in the discord around music, I said, you know, him and I trade pop punk memes all the time. I was like, Hey, we should totally make a crew like a discord list for like, these are

our top pop punk songs to listen to for lifting. So we did did that that was a lot of fun kind of doing that project back and forth and then I just one day scrolling saw that the I figured was called but it was basically Bad Religion and Pennywise playing out right near him so I was like hey man you want to go see the show and that was kind of that so if you have flew out there got a couple lifts in saw the show did some hiking that kind of stuff. That's awesome. Is that, how hard of a sell is that to your family and stuff to be like, I'm gonna, you know,

I mean, I guess, you know, now you've already done the lift hard and everything, but like, just, I'm gonna go hang out with my internet buddy but it's also someone you've met like four times in person now, so we're not really our internet buddies anymore. We just like, we still see each other in person. So, uh, but no, that's awesome. That's a great story. That's probably the hardest dynamic to explain is like, yeah, I mean, I know

them from the discord, but really like we've, you know, like with Toby, like I saw him in South Dakota now I've met his family and that kind of stuff. So, you know, it, it is more like, you know, friends and family than it is. Uh, strangers, but as far as telling my family, uh, you know, I always have single income, still kids. So I just go and do it, make sure Rocky's okay with it. I do. I do find if I'm, if I need to explain something to Morgan and I put big in front of their name, it immediately changes the dynamic of the conversation.

If I was like, well, I'm going to go to this other city to hang out with so-and-so, she'd be like, why, who, what, where? But if I was like, well, I'm going to go to this other city to hang out with so-and-so, she'd be like, why, who, what, where? But if I was like, oh, I'm going to hang out with big so-and-so, she'd be like, oh, it's from the discard. Yeah, I don't care. It would come completely. When we rent to Creed in back in last summer, I think, and I was like, oh, I've got to go meet this lady I've been texting or whatever. And Morgan was like, what? And I was like, oh, it's big cams wife. He can't make it. She's like, oh, I've got to go meet this lady. I've been texting or whatever. And Morgan was like, what? And I was like, oh, it's big cam's wife.

He can't make it. She's like, oh yeah, that's fine. Right? Like as soon as you can position the big and she knows it's from the discord, the conversation is completely different. She completely trusted. Do you have a hall of fame status?

Yeah, I looked it up. Let's see, I am at, this will get me 10. Whoa, getting close. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've been chipping away at the back catalog. That's one that's like, you know, it's a little hanging fruit, but that's the hardest for me. It's the hardest one because I already won the, the, uh, contest, but for me that's the hardest one. Cause some of those episodes are But for me, that's the hardest one because some of those episodes Other podcasts it's like it's hard to fit it in it's like yeah, I don't know Yeah, I I have one I'm listening to right now as much as I can and then between the weekly episode of Mastinomics I try and fit in the back catalog but like This isn't relevant. This was eight years ago. And it's so not really.

Right? Like, yeah. It is funny hearing some of the genesis of some of those inside jokes and stuff. So that is the cool part. Every now and then you get to nugget. I appreciate that. But then also where it's like, it's the draft for the first Strongman showdown. I was like, oh my god.

OK, I'm listening. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Number 10. A few away from your cup but not very far. What's your supporting membership number? Oh, 108. Very nice. Very nice. DB Keith. He beaten Keith. No, I'm I'm in the double digits. I think I'm like 20 behind you or something. Very good. All my stuff downstairs. I shouldn't share I need I need to just put it on spreadsheets and I'll be able to bring that up. And when people ask me was like, you definitely don't have enough spreadsheets. That are good stuff. So big Derek Did you give us a was there a timeline on when you started listening to Mastanomics?

I don't know if I missed that or not. I know how you got into it, but Yeah, oh, it was probably about a year before I did the trip. So it would have been like 21 or so in there Yeah, good Yep Yeah, actually it was probably took me about a year to even like, like, put a face to a name kind of thing. It wasn't the podcast for so long. And then, oh, yeah, who's Tanner?

Who's Tommy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll test Stephanie sometimes when they're on this when they're both on the screen. And she's like, she's like 80%. She'll get it now. But every now and then she'll be like, confused because like, Tanner chain, like, he like not cutting it like, he's changed a lot how he looks because like you know he's been like 280 pounds he's been 220 pounds he's had long long hair he's had fairly short hair he's had

a wild man beard he's had a close cropped beard like even two or three years ago he doesn't look like what he looks like like wild vastly different so and it's like all she sees is the random like, you know, YouTube stream that I'll watch on Sunday night. And, you know, over the last several years, she's like, you know, it's hard for her to keep up sometimes. But yeah, the put putting the names to faces is good stuff. Well, yeah, I guess I kind of meant I should have said voices to faces.

Sorry. I know what you're saying, too. Fair. Yeah, that too. Yeah. Listen to for so long. And I saw I watched on. I see what you mean. Oh, I didn't you're saying to fair. Oh, yeah that too. Yeah, listen to for so long and I saw I watched on I see what you mean. Oh, I didn't I didn't picture that Gotcha. Yeah, that makes it. Yeah, it makes more summer and tani. Yeah toner. Yeah, she's She been you've been around long enough You've probably seen a lot of stuff. What's that one piece that, you know, you see other people flaunting around and you

didn't get a chance to buy it. Oh man. It's gotta be the buddy late. Yeah. Yeah. It's gotta be that. Like, yeah. That's what, what, what, what a perfect, uh, meme, uh, mashup of like lifting culture, beer drinking and just the spirit of Mastinomics. That'd probably be the one piece of Mastinomics stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Do you guys have a, I don't know, unicorn, I guess? I think I've answered it a few times and I'm sure my answer always changes, but today,

specifically Tanner, Tanner wearing that red, like, you know, maroon slash red brick, whatever you want to call it lift shirt looked so fucking awesome like that looked like I want that shirt so bad I was like a red a red like og lift shirt would be awesome But I still think like I still don't know why they don't just do their actual logo Like the big M on the chest like the full the full og logo like that I would buy. And I think we would run that. Yeah. Like I think people, I think, but I don't know, but I think it's one of those things. Maybe they're just like, it'll only sell to like a hundred people in discord and that's it.

Yeah. I don't think that one would have mass appeal, but the same argument could be made for like the, um, we'd have massonomics appeal. The college was the one, the script that they had. Barsity. Barsity script. Yeah. Like that one also you think would not but it did

Yeah, you know now that you say that I had one of those maroon Varsity scripts and I love that shirt and I don't know what happened to it So I wish I had that one back actually There you go to get answer. Yeah, are you certified is your home gym certified? Do you have a home gym? I have a home gym. It is certified Was it fortunate to pass that test a couple weeks ago? Yeah, I've been a little lazy posting my pictures to discord or not to discord to the Senate to Tanner to oh, yeah He's been calling people out. You're never gonna get a you know

They're never gonna find you on the view of the world if you don't get those in I really think there's a lot of people Don't actually have that updated because like I really love that like a segment they do But like you can tell they're like they're like they're clicking on like ten gyms to fucking find one asshole that actually submitted pictures So it's like I listen to this submit your damn pictures I almost don't want them to pick mine because I don't want to hear Tommy go I'm not getting strong in that tiny-ass Squat-rack in a bunch of barbells. Like there's nothing in my gym. I keep like, I want to get mentioned, but don't pick mine.

Don't pick mine. Don't pick my. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty bare bones as well. Mostly I just have like too many skateboard parts out there. So my guy, once I put all this shit away, then I can finally get strong. Yeah. Yeah. Finally get strong. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah finally get strong. Yeah All right, what do you want to do next keith? Oh, okay. I'm with the least fun most fun, uh big derek I know you haven't listened to a ton of episodes somewhere to in-depth explain this one So we don't uh have a little snafu here. So we'll go right this time the game least fun most fun

I'm gonna give you a single topic and you're gonna give me two answers one for the least fun thing about the topic and one for the most fun thing about the topic. You can do a you know short explanation or use your druthers go on for a while but it's not an either other it's a both so least fun most fun the starting strength method. Training the starting strength method being a member of starting strength, etc. Whatever your affiliation with starting strength is, what's the worst and the best thing about it? least fun, most fun.

Let's see, most fun is definitely just the rapid progression with the what I appreciated about it was the the kind of the scientific way they approached teaching all the lifts and breaking down the movement patterns and so that rapid progression you really kind of know what the goal is and how to kind of fix a target and progress through that's definitely the most fun for me. Because you know before that I think like a lot of us we do a lot of or did a lot of just like random whatever we saw on, you know, pump an iron or whatever. Right. So, yeah, that's definitely most fun. Least fun.

Is it drinking a gallon of milk a day? Yeah, go mad. That would be really bad. That would be the worst. They're just supposed to be. It's supposed to be whole milk, too, I think, which is. Yeah, that sounds horrendous. I didn't quite do that, but I probably downed like three quarters of a gallon of whole milk a day when I was doing some restraint.

And it really wasn't bad, although since then I don't tolerate milk as much as I did back then. So I think I kind of ruined myself on it. I don't know. Yeah. You know what? Yeah, I guess if I would just put one asterisk there. I would say that I've done I've done two starting spring seminars

And those were a lot of fun So I guess maybe similar is like meeting those those people but also like least fun It was not not as inclusive as it was like meeting Masonic folks, you know I can I mean you mean rip wasn't a inviting warm presence like yeah Did you uh, so I know you're not big on that. It looks like mofo, unless he was just fucking with people. And one of the channels, he made it look like he was at that gym.

I don't know if it was real or not. I didn't read that much into it. Yeah, there was like a whole, he like re-enacted a whole dialogue that he had with Rip. And I'm just like, I assumed it was fake, but maybe didn't Dinaran randomly go to starting strength in the middle of the country. I don't, I assumed it was fake, but maybe didn't an Aaron randomly go to, to starting strength thing in the middle of the country. I don't, I assume he didn't.

I will say it's like, and like, I say that in like, you know, I don't mean for it to all sound negative because I do, I do like that, like style to some degree. Right. To me, it kind of rides me like Bill Belichick. It's like, man, the guy's kind of a dick, but he's really right. So I got the choice, you know? And yeah, so anyway. Good. Well, we we did it. At least fun. Most fun went off without a hitch.

Got him. Got him. Does Mark Griffin have any friends? I'm sure he has all the friends that he wants, you know. Oh, my God. That is the most diplomatic answer I think I've ever heard. Well, again, I like him. I think he's I think he's a good coach and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, just that gruff manner.

Same thing with Belichick. That that doesn't win you any favors in the press, right? Yeah, it's it's it's definitely off putting for sure. Yeah. Ah. What? I have a said it was a. The.

Were you trying to make a milk joke? No, there was the there was a Zach Galifianakis thing where like him and Scarlett was a scarlet notch, Scarlett. Jennifer Lawrence were like mocking each other or something, and there was like he said something about off putting in like she should be. So we just calling him fat the whole time. And she's like, you're off putting you should be off putting you fat fuck. So that's if you haven't even if you haven't seen that clip, then it's not relevant for funny. But I explained it poorly enough that one of the David's can explain it to everybody else better.

That's from Between Two Fern. Yeah, that was the joke. That was the show I was trying to reference. Yeah, I was just helping you out. All right, so same question. I've been going on now for a couple of weeks. You're about to go for a big lift. It doesn't matter what lift it is.

It's just a big one. You can choose one person as your height person. Who is that person? Oh, man, that's tough. Living, dead, current, uncurrent. What's uncurrent? Discurrent? All right. I'm going to have to go a little bit off the wall here. I'm going to go with All right, I'm gonna have to go a little bit off the wall here. I'm gonna go with Euripides. He's a, one of the podcasts I listened to, he is a ancient Greek playwright.

He is just known for a lot of, like, I guess, whenever the, I don't know if it was like Library of Alexandria, but whenever a large portion of works were lost, basically they recovered up to like the alphabet, like up through E or something. And so there's like some like huge gap in like how we have all these like different playwrights, right? But Rippe D is in particular, just wrote a lot of like famous plays and he was very good at chronicling those Greek myths, right? So I feel like he had some really good narrative,

like storytelling things. So not only could he be there, observe it, heighten me up, but then later on, you know, go forth and tell people of the deed. And who's his voice in your head? What's it similar to? I'm sure he just sounds like some generic, like Greek Plato actor. I'm imagining that guy that gets hit in the head a lot on his Instagrams.

God, if I could remember his name or not, would he like he just he's talking in the thing hits in his head and he just says, there's a fucking price. He's just got this like deep, deep voice. That's what I'm picturing that voice to be like. It didn't even see it coming. Yeah, I don't know that I really hear like any like voices like that like when I go I hyped up for a lift mostly it's just like listening to really

loud music and kind of feeling that emotion come up and I don't know that like I've ever tried to put a face to anything like that but yeah. It's a hard question on purpose right it is one of those ones because some people want to name like their best friend right. Yeah I think when I first answered it, I said Dodds, right? Like I'd love Dodds to be screaming at me to go and do something. Originally, I'll be honest with you, that was supposed to be a little bit of a different thing

where it was like, who is somebody that would hype you up? And then I want to know who is the person that could say the same things but piss you off right so like you know yeah oh yeah I mean that yeah that would definitely be like my best friend then yeah yeah like a prime example like dodd screaming at me telling me this was me also but yeah no I'd like if dodds is screaming at me telling me to go do a lift okay uh-huh and then keith is right next to him repeating what he says. It would piss me off. I'd be like, Keith, shut up. Like you don't get to talk to me like that. Dodds does. And not example,

not to say like Keith is a negative in my life or anything like that, but it would just be like one of those like, yeah, how you view how different people interact with you in your life and stuff like that. Right? I do think that Ultimately, I expect that question to grow a little more in that way Yeah, yeah, I see kind of what you're teasing out there too Yeah, it's tough because stuff like that like I don't know Like as long as it's coming from a good place There's not a whole lot lot of people can say to really, I don't know, piss me off in that manner. So that's just.

But like my little girl yelling go daddy would be very different than, you know, Hannah yelling go daddy. I'd be like, the fuck is that? Like that would be a completely different conversation. Not in public. It would just be completely different. Right. So do you usually train alone, Derek out in that garage gym?

Yours? Yeah, yeah. Um, actually I, yeah, I traded in my old, uh, I had an old Nautilus spot cage. Um, I traded that in for a Yoke, um, like a Y two rack, um, um, partly from big scans as our recommendations, but partly because that way I could like the old Nautilus was so hard to just like configure stuff. It just took a lot of time and I've got it down to a pretty good kind of science now where I can actually set up a squat and a bench on the same like on opposite sides oh yeah yeah just have an extra pair of j-cups you're good to go that's easy exactly and it's and it all worked out with my leverages and my arm lengths

and stuff so it just saves time yeah so I love it so when you in Arizona, Arizona, New Mexico, when you were out with Toby, like was that one of the first times recently, I guess that you've actually like trained with a training partner kind of thing and like had someone motivated motivating you and in your ear? Um, not really. I would. So back in the day, me and my buddy Kyle, we went to high school together, known him since 10th grade.

And so we, as we're getting into like senior year, we saw like, you know, body building forums and a pump and iron and that kind of stuff. So we would work out in his dad's, his dad had a home gym that was basically in this little shed. So him and I would work out pretty much every day after school. We went to the first year of college together. We started applying to the fire department together. So we just kind of naturally lined up our schedules and trained probably for, I don't know if you call it training, we exercised. No, no, no programming. You just like benched four days a week.

Exactly. Yeah. And that was right around when CrossFit was starting to get big. So we, like, what's, what's CrossFit? I don't know. Let's just do like 300 push-ups and you know, you try to do 300 push-ups in a row you find out real quick Like hey, once you get your your limit on push-ups, there are no more push-ups to get right? Yeah, that sounds horrible Well, you just mentioned what you do for a living so you want to elaborate on that with any You know We allow people to talk as little as much as they want about their jobs Some people find like they get kindred spirit friendships out of that with other people and you know other people just don't want to

Talk so entirely up to you Man I could talk forever about my job. I just you know, I love what I do so My I could elaborate on pretty much anything, but I need maybe a topic something to narrow it down. Oh, yeah. No, I was just more like, so you are a firefighter, but there's a different level.

Do you know what is your title or whatever? How far up are you? I got you. Yeah. So yeah, I'm a firefighter. I've been with the city for 17 years, a little bit more now Um, I was an emt before that got hired on um got joined the fire department. Also. I'm also a paramedic, um I've come to the rank of captain. So for us that's like a frontline supervisor So then the fire truck is going down the road. Um, there's usually three or four people on it

In those like metropolitan kind of cities. The person in that front right seat, so you got the driver. The person sitting next to the driver is the captain usually. So for the crew, really all I do is just try and say, make sure our tactics and stuff are coordinated on the same page. Do the radio comms, do that kind of stuff. But mostly, everyone is kind of like, it's not the Marines, but it's kind of like that where everyone's a firefighter first. Um, so I really like engine work. Um, if you picture just a fire truck

going down the street, if it doesn't have a giant ladder on top of it, you would typically call that a fire engine. Um, they bring the hose in the water and, um, put the fire out. Um, and then the ladder truck has the giant ladder on the top and they go in, they do search and utilities and utilities and you know watch the real men do work. I do have a couple I reached out to a few firefighter friends of mine just for some firefighting specific questions we can go to a couple of these and you know if they all fall flat we'll just move right through them but one of my buddies local east av gym guy here crew adjacent if you will, just wanted to know

just firehouse pranks, whether it was any like, one or two pranks or anything that like is safe to talk about on air that you don't just stand out to you. Oh man, yeah, so many. Fortunately all the pranks that I have seen and been around, I'll just give my disclaimer, have been very PC and safer for work because it's always flowering people's pillows Fortunately, all the pranks that I have seen and been around, I'll just give my disclaimer, have been very PC and safe for work.

It's always flowering people's pillows and that kind of stuff. I would say going most recent, I recently worked on overtime shift and I found this little cricket noisemaker just randomly makes noise. I just went ahead and put that up in the ceiling of the captain's bunk so that I'm not going to be back there for months. So that that's a good while. So so that was at a different house you're saying because you were filling in? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I'm right now. Yes. Yeah. That's funny. Let's see. So that same station, I actually used to work at that particular station as a firefighter.

One of the best pranks I saw this will be two and I'll give one more for the last one the other crew came over and set up a little cup of paper so that when you open up the The the cabinet get your coffee cup out just dumps flour on top of you, right? So My captain, you know his name is Mark Maples. he went up, he opened the cabinet, dumped flour, and he's like, God dang it, guys from 11 got me. So he goes and changes, gets a coffee cup, goes over to where the actual coffee pot is, he opened the top of that one to get the sugar or something out, dumped flour all over the top of the McGinty.

He's like, God damn it, I'm out of uniforms. That's really good. Yeah. That's really funny. And the last one is just the trick with the stink sprayer, right? You just tape up the sink sprayer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Scotch tape.

So one of the guys that are stationed one of my first station, nine, his name was Chuck Smith. He was always doing the pranks, right? And so I kind of caught on that if I just slip, if I see him do one and later on, if I just do the same thing he did, people would blame him for the prank. You know, so I would periodically just like, Oh, yeah, somebody was a sink sprayer. And then you know, get someone chalk. God damn it.

Yes, that's very much the light hearted kind of teasing each other very much a part of the firehouse culture. Nice. Another follow up on that is just how does your work schedule or how does your work schedule affect your training? Like are you having to train like in the middle of the night sometimes or are you able to get sessions in at the firehouse or back when I was like training real seriously, which was like probably 2014 to 2016 17 timeframe. I basically the way

the way it worked out works out with my schedule. I can train only on my off days every other day and you know I would do my fives. I would do just a nice starting strength linear progression and just do every other day. So that was kind of that. The main thing is like the sleep. Like I've always been at busy stations running 15 to 20 calls a shift somewhere in there on the low end maybe in the 10 to 12 range but um so trying to get sleep and recover and then get up the next day and still want to actually lift that's that was the tough part back then yeah I imagine anything I do at work I don't I really don't count like I'll do like cardio stretching ice bath recovery type

stuff at work just to kind of you know do something do something. But. Well, I do have a couple more, but I'm probably going to end on this one. Have you been thanked for your service today? And is that something that is that something that firefighters get annoyed by? Um, you know, it's hard to say we get annoyed by it. I think the better way to phrase it is a lot of times we feel it's unwarranted, you know, like here we are doing something we love with, you know, people we love or some of our best friends. And we have a generally have a really good time most days. And when people thank us for our service, like, well, you know, we're getting paid to do this and

we're doing what we love. So it almost feels like we shouldn't be getting that. But yeah, always appreciative of folks that say hi Nice. It was a very diplomatic answer We hate this Yeah, yeah Yeah, I guess I drink the Kool-Aid a little bit I guess that I'm up an admin now so you can you can pencil it in for that I guess But you know, sometimes you never know like the next time that person's going to interface with a fire

truck. We would make a point when I was at the ocean front, we'd make a point to hand out stickers and stuff. We'd go down to the... So at the ocean front, it has a long strip. We call it the strip or the boardwalk. Lots of foot traffic. And part of the perks of being at the ocean front is you go down there and, you know, just kind of taking the ambiance and the sights and all that kind of stuff. So we'd go down there, get ice cream. PD is going to say, of course they do. Right. But so we go down there and give us some free ice cream and we just hand out stickers. Those are our camp boys. People. Yeah. Yeah.

So we welcome it to some degree. Yeah. The Narkin boys did. They can't. They go forth and they prosper. Yep, big Toby checking in. So you said you've been in for 17 years and you recently transitioned into an admin. So is that kind of like, does that give you more career longevity at that point? Or are you trying to do your 20? And like, how's that? I mean, is it like, do you mean, is it set up for you can kind of do 20 and actually retire, or do you got to go at it for longer than that? In my case, I have to go 28 years.

So it's 50 years of age and 25 years of service. So yeah, it's not really for the longevity. I've had a lot of different assignments through my career. Been on busy engines predominantly, did a little bit on the ladder. Don't tell anyone. And then two tours and training. And I've picked up a lot of like admin type skills from doing that.

And long story short, I guess our department is accredited, which means outside party comes in, checks out what we do. How do we do it? You know, how do we do what we say we do and how do we make it better? Right. That's accreditation. And so doing that kind of stuff has opened some doors for me just to see a different side of the fire department. So I wouldn't say it's for longevity, but it's just, I have

a lot of like varied interests and my ADD kind of keeps me going. So it's fun to be able to kind of see other areas of the department that I wouldn't otherwise be able to see just riding on the engine, which is definitely the best position in the fire department being on the engine, but not the fire. But yeah. Hmm. Cool stuff. Cool stuff. Um, what do you got for him, Jerry? Uh, if you had to give up one or the other, would you give up snowboarding or skateboarding?

Oh gosh. Um, Ooh, I don't think this is considered, I don't think this would be considered riding the line right now I would have to give up snowboarding. Um, I'd have to give snowboarding because my dog rocky loves skateboarding. He's going to be 14 years pretty soon. So yeah, I would have to keep skateboarding at least until you know, later on down the road and then I might have to switch skateboarding at least until, you know, later on down the road and then I might have to switch back to snowboarding. It's tough though, because I do genuinely love snowboarding more than skateboarding.

Just being in the mountains, it's a great time. Well, and like, Keith, you're in Rochester. Is that kind of mountainous up there or no? There are mountain areas in New York, but not necessarily Rochester. Like you got to go to the Ad rondex or there's another range to There's like two different areas where it is very mountainous, but they're all like at least like an hour to three hours from here Is that like more east I guess sir. So there's there's there's there's some like big skiing stuff. I guess it would be Southwest but then there's also a lot of stuff east

Okay, I Got you Actually speaking of accreditation in Rochester and Canada, actually, where is St. Catharines in relation to you, Joey? St. Catharines, Ontario? Am I in the wrong province? Nope, nope. You're very close. I'm just trying to remember which direction it is. It's relatively close. And I mean like 45 minutes or so close. Yeah, it's right near Niagara Falls. Okay, yeah. So that's like in my new position.

They're sending me to a conference up there called Metro Fire Planners. So accidentally double booked myself. That's the same weekend as the Riot Fest. So my plan currently is to go to the Riot Fest and then book it over to St. Catherine's for the for the Metro Fire Planners Conference. But yeah, I'll be up and you all kind of because I know like Rochester's kind of I'm not super good with

geography there. Yeah, if you're near if you're near a falls over, you're like 90 minutes from me. Yeah, you're 45 minutes from me. No, he's he's probably about two and a half hours away from you at St. Catherine's.

Oh, yeah. But yeah, I was referring to Niagara Falls. But yeah, yeah. If you're depending on how he's coming, I mean, shoot me the dates. If I'm around. I'll come down. Like it's, it's not that far at all.

It's, it's very, very close actually. Yeah. They said, um, I think one of the events is like a dinner, like it, you know, there's like a, so there's like socials every night, that kind of thing. So one of the dinners was supposed to be at Niagara Falls. So it's gotta be right in there. Yeah. Niagara Falls is actually a little farther away than St.

Catherine's. So Niagara Falls, and then you've got Niagara on right in there. Yeah. Niagara Falls is actually a little farther away than St. Catherine's. So Niagara Falls and then you've got Niagara on the lake, then St. Catherine's and then you essentially have like Grimsby, Stony Creek and then my city, right? And they're all within 45 minutes to an hour of each other down the same highway. Cool. So then tell me about the time that you decided to skate on the back ramp of fire station

11. Yeah, man. So fire station 11 already said that's the oceanfront station, right? Parking at the oceanfront is notoriously bad. So most firefighters, you know, we're going down to the oceanfront, we'll park at the back ramp of the fire station, plenty of parking available. And then yeah, just kind of mosey on up and do whatever we're going to do So I would do that and like just skate down to the ocean front. There's um, some breweries boardwalk Uh, good buddy paul moore lives down there. Um, so anyway on the way back

Um, you know, I've done this all the skating no problems On the way back there was like a rock or something and you know what it was? I think it was actually just hitting the mold no problems on the way back. There was like a rock or something. You know what it was? I think it was actually just hitting the molding coming into the bay. The little lip coming into the apparatus. They hit that like too slow, basically too slow, too square and just ate it. Yeah, right. Oh, sorry. I buried the lead at the time.

Everyone from the station, from the other shift was all out, like on the back. Look at this dumbass. Yeah. So not only did I just wipe out like and I was like, man, I've been doing I didn't wipe out at all today. Not only do I wipe out and eat it, but I do it in front of the entire shift. So yeah, that was great. Nailed it. There was at least there were some paramedics there to help you if you're you know hurt yourself too bad.

Yeah, I'd be afraid of losing teeth on something like that. Are you lost? hurt yourself too bad. Yeah, I'd be afraid of losing teeth on something like that. If you are you lost. You said you'd be afraid of losing teeth. Yeah, I feel like like not having that kind of control and just losing it. You're like breaking an elbow, breaking a wrist, land right on your face. Like, like, I don't know. I mean, I guess if you're on your ass, that's one thing. But then like if you don't have your helmet on, you're didn't concussed and brain dead. Yeah

It's always the worst case scenario for you, man Like I'm skateboarding and I fell what if you got brain dead like So, I mean there's always that hazard right I say one, you have to learn how to fall. Yeah, you're not wrong. I don't know if well, so I went snowboarding one time. I'm a decent snowboarding and snowboarder. I lost my edge long story short, I lost my edge and was off the side of the mountain in a tree dislocated my shoulder.

And it was very much a chill day. I wasn't going real fast or anything. So kind of to Keith's point you never know when that edge is gonna catch you and Now when you dislocated the shoulder was is it did you have the lethal weapon moment where Mel Gibson just smashes his arm against The wall to pop it back in or is that just like that doesn't that's not a thing All right like like you have to have a doctor or someone like

Trained actually pop it in and like pull it and shit. You can't just like smash your arm against the wall. I Wish I could have done that mostly I was like dazed and confused this very nice gentleman stopped at the top of the The hill I'm just kind of looking up towards the slope and I said hey, are you all right? He kept asking like are you all right? You're right. I was like, hey, man. I just need a second I guess what do some shit here and so he was super cool he had kind of helped me walk out towards the trail got on the ski lift ski patrol just kind of rode up with me and controlled the lift when I got to the ski shack they tried to set it but long story short it didn't work and really it probably made it worse but it it's hard to say. I was there

with another firefighter buddy. So when found him, there's like no cell reception up there. So I finally found him. And then he got my car drove me down to the hospital, they said it in the hospital, or in the ER rather. But the funny thing there was so I've actually injured myself quite a bit. Alright, so I broke my leg. I just hit him. Both times when they when the doctors were giving me pain meds, they were like, oh wow, your pain tolerance is really high. I was like, man, it'd be really cool if people would stop telling me that.

It's like, I'm dying on the inside. I'm just not letting you see it, you fucks. Yeah, yeah. And with the shoulder, again, the doc was great and the Dilaudid definitely helped. But after the second dose, I was like, hey, I really don't think it's going to feel any better until it just goes back in. So whatever we got to do to do that, let's just do that.

Now I mean, in the old days, instead of medication, you would do a shot of whiskey. And I understand that that was your first choice, was a straight up shot of whiskey the first time you drank alcohol. Tell me what was going through your mind about that. That's bold. Gosh. I might not even remember that. That must have been, so I can tell you what's going through my mind. That must have been either at Keegan's in town center or at Busch Garden. So at Busch Garden's Williamsburg, they have like a wine tasting event. So I don't remember if it was there or not.

I can tell you what's going through my head though. I love John Wayne movies and like cowboy movies in general. And like, what does Clint Eastwood drink? What does John Wayne drink? Dang whiskey, boy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's what it says here is that you've never had an ounce of whiskey

or an ounce of alcohol in your life and you decided a straight shot of whiskey because that's what the Duke drinks was your mindset there, yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. You said you broke your leg. How'd you do that?

Well, first of all, the police did it. Um, yeah, big Toby, it was a fire versus police charity game. We're playing football, basketball, kickball, and ultimate frisbee. So in the football, you know, you're allowed to kind of block on the line. So I'm just basically pushing against a dude. Another good buddy, Dave Mitchell, he used to, he coaches football.

You think he'd be a little bit better blocker, but basically he lost his block and dumped his dude onto my leg. Thanks a lot, Dave. But in all seriousness, yeah. So the guy just kind of fell in the back of my leg and gave me what's called a spiral fracture. So basically I had like six breaks in the tibia and then also broke the fibia as well.

So that the hospital that did my surgery is literally right next door. It's like within five minutes by ambulance to that hospital. And I guess they get a lot of they get a lot of customers from the field house. So I was one of the customers that day. A buddy read the call in and he was like, you know, he gave me a little bit of pain meds. But the interesting thing there, I guess, maybe it's not interesting, but we got to the ER. Of course, they have to do an x-ray. Everyone knows it's broken. They had splinted it for me. When they took me to the x-ray, they undid the splint and they lifted my ankle so that the plate could go underneath. So they take the x-ray when they lifted my ankle, the rest of my leg didn't move.

And I was like, Oh, I knew it was broken, but now it's really broken. What'd you do before you broke it? Yeah. It was so they basically I went to surgery that night. They put a rod in basically kind of arrange all the pieces on the rod and just let it all heal together And sir the surgeon actually I would say it's if you guys seen bullet train. Whoa Yeah, was that the Yeah, I saw that a couple years ago. Yeah, I

Feel like this might be like the case of like lucky unlucky kind of thing because you know I'm unlucky and having these accidents But I was really fortunate to have a good doctor kind of put me back together there, but with both surgeries But yeah, so I've still got the rod in there and I'm a leg all that kind of stuff Are you competing at the lift hard live easy? Yeah, yeah sign up for power lifting this year. There you go Everybody's competing against an Android. Yep this year. There you go.

Yeah, really. Everybody's competing against an Android. Yep. That's right. Bionic leg. Who has more nuts and bolts in their legs? You or big Steve Ross? What is his handle?

Oh, he's from like Massachusetts. Waffle iron. Yeah. Waffle iron. Yeah. His story was the most, as bad as bad as yours wars They still doesn't like his visualizations of how broken and exposed his bones were I was like I still cringe at that one So yeah

Yeah, he ran over he like ran over his leg with a snowmobile or something. I believe yeah So so you did go where you were you at left hard love easy one just as a fan then. I was i got in i got i got in way too late i never used to be very active on the discord so i just missed the open sign up. I was wait listed and then you know i now knowing that probably could have jumped in maybe a little different but. I already said my mind on going and even when they said i was wait list is a time so gonna go So yeah, I was there for one and then participated in two and yeah coming back for three. Oh nice Okay, so is that your for have you done other power of the meets or was that your first last summer? I've done others. The very first one was actually a It was a deadlift only in New York, Pennsylvania

Was the that was the K&M. I mean, the American games. Can we be getting know this? This is like way previous. This is like pre. I didn't even know about this. Yeah, I think.

Yeah. Yeah. So I did a poll only. That was kind of cool at York Barbell. The next year is pretty cool. Yeah. He gets to see like all that. You guys are big into like the vintage weights and cool. Yeah, you get to see like all the you guys are big

into like the vintage weights and stuff. Yeah, I need to make the trip to York at some point. But like I hear it's just like, it's not really what it should be like as like the museum like, like it hasn't been updated in like 20 years kind of thing. Like, like they have all this shit in storage that they could put out this is like from like, you know, vintage weights, Rob PGH has said, and it's just like, you you know it could be really it's still cool but it could be a lot cooler kind of thing so it's like but i'll i'll make the journey down there someday for sure yeah i mean it definitely you get the feeling that it's definitely not the prize thing right but it was fun to kind of walk around after the meet or whatever but uh yeah so then i just from there, I just I did a push poll, another can and game. That was 2015. And then a

couple local meets that kind of thing. So I've probably done five or six meets now. Nice. Yeah, how's how's you can be the first one to give people their your road to the lift hard, live easy to how's training going? What do you what are you looking? What do you what do you think you're gonna hit? Like, you know, you think you're everything on track, you know, you think you're Everything on track where you want to be?

Um, you know, I'm just just seeing where the wind takes me I guess I I feel like training is going real well. Like my shoulder feels great feels nice and stable That took like over a year Bension pension and like I don't know what would be worse binging or slick because squatting low bar like I hope you I hope you've invested in SSB and a dog and some type of bow bar at this point because god that sounds yeah it was after the surgery it took me probably eight or nine months before I did a like an actual like back squat again at our training center gym we have a safety squat bar. So that was clutch doing that. Although I wish I had known the safety squat bar wasn't 45. It's

like 75. Most of them are going to be 60. The lead FTS SS yoke is 65 pounds. A lot of people try to copy that but the weights are going to be like I think rogues is 70 and like Titans might be like 60 or 58 or something but there but I know that like the pride and joy the s the elite of DSM 65 So there's definitely not a 45 pound bar for sure Right. I think you're on you thought you were under shooting and you were really hitting 20 pounds. Yeah Put the two plates on him my god even warming up this feeling hard and

Obviously, yeah I'm like God even warming up this feeling hard and it's just a mental thing. Obviously. Yeah I've seen two plates on excited a buddy who can squat 500 man Maybe not five mid fours and for some of you used an SSB He loaded two plates on it and he didn't get pinned but he about got pinned and he's a very strong guy He just has never used an SSB before so yeah, that was funny. Sorry didn't rub you something about that technique. Yeah But yeah, so but I spent a lot of time working on the ability. So yeah, I'm feeling strong. My best ever spot in a competition was four 85, which was actually kind of funny cause it was a misload. Um, they,

they had two and a half pound collars that they weren't counting on their load chart or whatever. Um, so, but which is cool cause I grinded it out and I was like, man, if I had done that rep for 475 which is what I'd called or 470 whatever I called if I had done that as a guy I wouldn't call another one so 45 518 was my best deadlift and like 275 I think was my best bench so I could hit I feel like if I get all three of those just put it all together For one meat that would be awesome. So so that nothing nothing better than a total PR you know like you know yeah that's that's that's the end of goal you know at the end of the day you know the total is what you know what your judge on so no it'll be cool to be good to see you there.

Yeah yeah it's always that that really is the highlight just in really. The the meat is the one thing it's a it's a's a such a fun meet and especially with the two stages and all that they had going last year, but you know, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, um, after Saturday, you're getting in, you're getting in Wednesday. That's that's, I'm not getting in that early, but we'll get in Thursday night. Yeah. But no, just, I mean, like the whole week of events. Yeah.

Yeah. It is. Yeah. It is great. It is the buildup is the best, but it's like, for me, I just like, but just I mean like the whole week of events. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is great It is the build-up is the best but it's like for me I just like I I hope I can I kind of want to like challenge myself to drink more than like a beer on Thursday Like like have like two or three beers on Thursday like let loose a little bit It's like I don't but I suck I drink so spare so sparingly now

It's just like I don't want to be half hungover all day But also it's like if I had a couple more beers, would I be, would I be more chipper and like chatty? Like it's kind of that double edged sword of like which, which, which one is a better up, you know, experience overall. But yeah, I don't know. We, I definitely advocate anyone, you know, that isn't signed up or, you know, hasn't come out to one of these big meetups yet. Like, what are you waiting on? It really is the best way.

Cause then like for me again, wasn't a big discord person until after doing one of the meets. Cause then I could recognize and put some faces to names and whatnot in the discord. And I'm with you there too though. Cause like last thing that I would really want to do, like especially Friday, you know, Tanner's party is fun, but even though it's not a serious meet, I just really don't want to go into a meet a little hung over or anything like that, right? So I'm with you there.

Me and me and Big Matt, we were up drinking to like one o'clock that night and then still went in for a wait. Yeah, I mean, the crew are crazy, man. It is wild and like I kind of regret it. But at the same because like what I have added a couple pounds to my total But like but that's not why I was there, right? So you're right. You're looking at the the two differences and like what do you hear for it? You're here to set a total or are you here to have fun and also compete and you know, everybody's got a different mindset And I heard you've been dabbling into strongman a little bit a little bit. Yeah

I think that's that's the best point. As long as you're having fun, whatever it is, if it's hanging and drinking, if it's lifting, whatever, you know, I think the lit mass enormous is a good job where the lift hard is equally as important as the live easy, right? Yeah. Very much so. Yeah. It's, it's funny that you guys are talking PRS cause I even realized today, when I posted that thing the other day about um doing strongman now versus powerlifting for five years

I don't I couldn't tell you what my one rep max is right now And I couldn't tell you the last time I hit a pr And I don't care Right and to me that's just so wild because like I used to be so hyper focused on it right, and now you're just like me that's just so wild because like I used to be so hyper focused on it. Right. And now you're just like, I don't, I don't know. And I don't care. And I don't care that I don't know.

And you know, I, the one day I did some flat bench and I did my opener at the lift hard, the VZ for a triple, an easy triple. And like, I distinctly remember racking the weight and going what the fuck was that? Where did that come from I cuz I saw the weight I was like I'll try sure juggernaut Like let's see what I can do and I smacked it right and so Yeah, it's it's a very different concept of you know of what your what your attempts are, what

you're planning to do and whether or not you want to stay up drinking with Matt till one in the morning. Yeah. Do not recommend. You know, that's something I've noticed, too. Kind of talk about the strongman stuff. A lot of what I've been doing is just I've cut a lot, cut back a lot on my total number of reps.

I was like, man, I'm doing I still love my fives, right? Man, I'm doing a lot of technique practice a lot on my total number of reps. I was like, man, I'm doing a, I still love my fives, right? Man, I'm doing a lot of technique practice and I'm really just kind of wearing myself out and causing like some spine problems and stuff. So the, what I've liked about the strong man is it kind of forces you to. Brace and some of those awkward positions. And when you find stuff that's tight, you start mobilizing that a little bit. Um, and, uh, yeah. So I just think it's a total package like doing some of those

other planes of motion has been great for the strongman, especially the overhead stuff surprisingly enough. Yeah, great shoulders. Oh yeah, that's gonna help you for sure. Yeah, I'm a big fan of the overhead press supremacy right now. Yeah, you know, I didn't do it for years because juggernaut doesn't let you juggernauts like bench only and bench accessories And then you go to strongman you do overhead press and then like once every three weeks It tells you to flat bench and your flat bench just goes fly in and you're like, what is that about? But it's because in powerlifting you're you know overheads unheard of Yeah

About like just like first man because that's like the starting strength stuff, right? your, you know, overheads unheard of. Yeah. About like just like first, because that's like the starting string stuff, right? Like first principles, like the more muscle you can recruit in those things, the better off it is, right? That's why the squats king and the deadlift puts so much attention on the body. And then the press, like, yeah, if you could only do bench or standing press, the, the, the standing press is the one that gets the most on the whole system. Right? Yep. And then there's the old joke too, that like every strongman could be a power lifter,

but no power lifter can be a strongman too, right? Like I've heard that before. And at first I was like, yeah, I see it. But like, now that I'm, I've done both, I go, I really see it. Right? Like, Yeah. Well, yeah. So just like the raw, like, and that's the other thing, like the raw strength that some of those strongmen have, oh, that really anyone who's doing strongman has the ability to just kind of move kegs around and that kind of stuff. But then you also just think about the like the cardiovascular, like you do a heavy yoke or carrier, anything

like that. You know, we're talking 20 second bouts, 30 second bouts, Whereas in powerlifting, what are we doing? What's a grinder? It might be four seconds or five seconds or something. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Put it up and put it down. Whereas a strong man, I'm like, I'm going to pick this rock up and do laps. Right? Like it's, it's just so different. Yeah. It's athleticism with the weights. Yeah. And you're, we're going to get in trouble now. All the power lifters on the discord are going to come out. I could do after it. I could do it. I had to run with a keg last week.

That was brutal. What was that? I had to run with a keg last weekend. That was brutal for some of her like I've loaded a keg a few times. I'd never to like just pick one up and like run with it and like, you know, load it, do a steeple chase with it. Basically it was a, it was unpleasant. Yeah. But a big, big Dan fellow crew members hooking me up with some kegs I think for my birthday this summer. He's got some empty kegs or maybe some, some partially filled ones that his commercial gym is downsizing from. So he said at least one or two, he's going to bring out to me when I see him here next month. So that'll be a new addition to the garage gym. I can appreciate kegs and sandbags

and atlas stones but I do think natural stone lifting is a different beast and I don't think anybody that's done it would disagree because like... Ask Tron's head how he feels about natural stone lifting. Yeah but I mean he's it's a very good example if I had a hundred pound sandbag over my head it's a uniform weight if I had a hundred pound keg over my head. It's a uniform weight suddenly. You got this rock. That's like weighted on one side and sharp Right, you know if I have a hundred pound rock which I do and I have a hundred pound sandbag and I'm gonna do the Sandbag around my yard the sandbags easier, but you get that rock in your hands and suddenly like you're kind of leaning to the right. It's digging into you and you've got the road rash, right? Like, ugh, I'd even thought about buying wrist guards just to do that. So I don't go to work and be like, hi, nice to meet you. And I'm just covered in scrapes and burns and shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

There's definitely something about those odd objects. again, like you're bracing in weird ways and that kind of stuff For a keg you guys prefer I have a keg and I've just filled it with a little bit of water It's not like it's not super heavy, but I find the water is kind of fun to play around with because it's so unstable Forces that so tsunami bars of kegs The ones the ones that I've used at the gym, I could I could tell some had sand and then some had like fucking large pieces of gravel. They had one that was it was over four, it was four hundred fifty seven pounds or something. I think that was or maybe it was a four or five. But it was but it was a monster. So like big big Chris Mark, he was able to he he he's carried it like X amount of feet and he's also got it over the bar from like Uh from from like a dead stop like just the load But he was trying he was trying to do the full

He had the like put them both together last weekend and I felt so bad for him because he he was just he was so Gassed and couldn't do it But I was like, do you just care you just fucking like bear hugged and carried a 400 pound keg. Yeah. And like, you just carried my deadlift max like, yeah. Like, I think he's my buddy, Chris Mark. He's a local. He's a fellow fellow crew in Rochester, like Russia. We're like the hotbed or crew. I think we got like three guys, the hotbed,

hotbed, all three of us, all three of us. Yeah, there's no, no, it is cool, though, because like we we were three of us. But we also like are in the same gym periodically, which is kind of cool. And then you got, you know, we got like six others within like a three hour radius. That you never visit and one doesn't exist. So I wonder what I wonder which gym has the most crew in it. That's not mass amount of probably those capyones.

Yeah, I'm trying to think. I don't know who else actually a member there other than Colton. So now there's a lot of like, like, I don't think, uh, Grayson, because that's on the whole other side of town for Grayson and stuff. So I know he doesn't train there. And because I'm thinking this probably, I don't know. I was thinking maybe Sioux falls might have a bunch more, but like, I would imagine if you only, if you have three, four or five somewhere in that range, I might be a top. Yeah, I'd imagine.

Well, I think that's a question to put out there when this is released. I mean, Tanner probably knows the answer, but yeah. I mean, yeah, there's, there's three, like I, I don't have a, I have a punch card, which is essentially a membership. Like I am on their email list as a member because I've spent like $150 on like a 10 week or a 10 time punch card and actually got to buy a new one soon. And then the other guys are like full, fullblown members but uh yeah I don't know but you got such a nice you got such a nice gym at your at your house that yes sir yeah going there is just yeah to change it up a little bit I imagine yeah that would be a hard

question to answer because they're all the home gym nerds yeah right right you're talking like public gym that's a little it's harder But I maybe that one that Lou goes to One of the mats train there Just like three crew that are regularly showing up at the same house kind of thing, you know Yeah, I don't know that has to be necessary a gym per se but it just like That's probably perfect That's probably no wine cellar if you ask me There's gonna be like six crew here or at least five crew here on my birthday, so that's that's up there

Yeah, that's that's coming up in June, right? Yes, sir. Yep, June 14th Anyone you know anyone that's in the neighborhood or wants to make the trip in the lovely state of up, you know in New York head on over Should we move on to a game? Yeah, I'm gonna hit him with a little FM K big Derek I hear you're a Marvel fan. So I picked a couple Marvel characters here for you and I want you to FMK them so FMK Iron Man the Hulk Captain America FMK Iron Man Hulk Captain America hmm we hear you are a comic connoisseur I, I think my friends would probably say I am but One of my good buddies Ricky he puts me to shame with his college So I'd have to defer that but let's see. I'm definitely gonna marry Captain America

We are going to We are going to F fireman and we are going to kill off the We are going to F Iron Man and we are going to kill off Just wait way too unpredictable with the Hulk, you know, just can't have that all that kind of chaos in the life. So America for sure. That's who you take home and Iron Man because like no now you are the arm candy for the billionaire Fancy fest like you get to go everywhere you get own iron. You get your own suit at one point. Like, yeah, a lot of fringe benefits there. And we're Steve Rogers, Captain America, not the Falcon slash

Captain America. Yeah. Good guy. But it's just hard. I watched that a couple of weeks ago. It was not a great movie. I won't even watch it was objectively a bad movie. Yeah, actually. Yeah. I like Sam Wilson's scary. I like the angles that you could be using for Sam Wilson. Some really compelling stories there. And it's like, man, did you guys just turn this over to the worst writers you could find? Like, why is this movie so bad?

Yeah, it's like, it's people making movies that don't read the comics. That's what it comes down to. Right. And it's like, yeah. And with as much money that goes into a movie, like they know there's the nerds out there. There's the Russo brothers. There's all these people that have great ideas. You think they were just like, hey, you know what? Maybe we'll just go hire one of those people to help us out, be our technical advisor. No, no. Actually, there was a movie recently that I watched. I think it was called Havoc. It was a Was it that it's that one with? Yes. Was that with Tom Hardy? Yeah. Yeah, that's the one. Oh, yeah. Watch this. It's like brand new. Don't. Yeah, I actually think that movie was written by AI. I think they put some prompts in that was like make an action movie with this and this and this and then they spit it out. It was awful. And I remember watching it saying like this is the worst thing I've watched and I love Tom Hardy.

Like usually a terrible movie with Tom Hardy gets bumped up a notch for me. This one did. It was it was objectively terrible. Dodds hated it too. But yeah, it's what it just goes back to that. Like does anybody did somebody who's never watched a movie watch this or write this? And I started thinking like, no, they just typed in like, action movie male protagonist you know separated from wife because that never comes up again in the movie right like that beginning of the movie and the entire thing is about his kid and then at the end you never hear about him reconciling with his kid like it was so bad so yeah it was the the machine pistol with no extended mag that literally put out at least 60 rounds

With no really like was a continuous shot. It wasn't even like oh, I'll pretend and give you the you know Give you the benefit of the doubt. No No, and that's it's just comes back to people Either that was written by AI or by somebody who's never watched an action movie and it's actually why I won't watch the new Captain America has nothing to do with Anything other than I looked at the previews and went nah The worst part about that is they put like they put the Red Hulk in the trailer for the movie My hope was that was the Danieman of the movie. You spoiled your own movie Yeah

That pissed me off And the fucking jet scene couldn't have gone on any goddamn longer than it did like it was just like oh Yeah, never ending I don't care if you have a cool sit on like he doesn't have superpowers so when he punches an anti-ship torpedo, he's going to be vaporized like Yeah, but then they also do Like spider-man punching doctor octopus like dog doctor was is still just a man and spider-man is still superpowered strength

So like he punches him in the face and dr. I was like, uh, and like you know, like you would have shattered his skull Yeah for sure. Yeah, if he wasn't pulling his punches, you're absolutely right cuz like you remember that scene in a Civil War where? Spider-Man catches the winter soldiers of Bionic Arm, right? Yeah. It's like, oh, cool. You have a metal arm, which like, hey, that metal arm has been jacking up people all movie.

Yeah. Which, which that was probably the most true part because Spider-Man then kicking you in the face would flatten you. Like, it'd be much similar to the boys, right? Yeah, that's legitimately what the world would be. If there were real fucking superheroes, it would be the boys like that's the world that we would be in.

So let's let's keep going on this vein. I'm going to go with the Mount Rushmore of your favorite Marvel movie Easter eggs. Oh, favorite Marvel movie Easter eggs. Oh, favorite Marvel movie Easter eggs. Yeah, man, that's tough. It's gonna be hard to think of, I think. Yeah, it's got to be stuff that comes from the first phase. It's got to be the appearance of Samuel Jackson at the end of Iron Man. That's a good one.

Were you in a theater for that one? Yes. Yeah. And the crowd standing up and screaming. Yeah. Yeah. Really, like, all the... Really, almost trying to think of a movie. Like, you know, there wasn't that much screaming and stuff going on for, like, Thor, for example, you know, back in the day.

But Captain America was when the movies first started really getting the hype right? Yeah, that's the first phase of the mcu yet Yeah, and then avengers or whatnot man I feel like i'm just gonna blank on other things to put on there though like seeing cap shield for the first time really like Captain america, uh first avenger had a lot of those kind of projections, right? They had the, um, uh, obviously the cosmic cube. I don't know. I'm not going to have a good Mount Rushmore for this. It's too specific. All right.

How about this? How about my Mount Rushmore favorite scenes? I can do that. Yeah. You've got, you've got a cap getting the, um, getting the hammer, uh, at the end to end game, right? Yep. Um, so that's one that took three movies. Oh yeah. That's a cap getting the getting the hammer at the end end game, right? Yeah.

So that's one that took three movies. Oh, yeah. Every time you thought it was coming again, right? Actually, it's probably just going to end up being a Mount Rushmore cap stuff. Here you are. You got to be in there. Yeah. When he gets in the elevator and he goes, does anyone want to get out?

That's on there. And yeah, I guess the last one's got to be we'll do that together, right? Sorry, that was Kaplan talking to Tony and they said, hey, you know, what if we fail? Tony says, hey, what if we fail? And Cap says, well, we'll do that together, too. There's got to be my top four. Oh, OK. Cinematic movie. But I end up being top four cap, I guess.

So not when he shows up in the Outworld in Deadpool 3. Oh, he's like a warm mouth hug. You know what? To be fair, that entire movie was an Easter egg. He's going to say it. He's going to say it. That was a great cinematic moment. It really was. Having him come in as Johnny Flame. Yeah. I was by myself in the theater and I was just like, oh my God, it's actually him. And he's got the blue on and everything and he does the flame on. And I was like,

yes. Thank you so much for that. All right. That was perfect. Yeah. Yeah. That was, that movie was also also like they've done that so many times like with this whole reset of the the the Multiverse because like they did it Yeah, well the X-Men those movies as far as I'm concerned don't need to exist anymore

And then they did with flashpoint Which wasn't a real flashpoint for some reason because that's not how flashpoint actually went and then they did it with Flashpoint, which wasn't a real Flashpoint for some reason, because that's not how Flashpoint actually went. And then they did it with another Marvel movie. And it doesn't matter. But like, I think it's enough. Like, I think, like, it's one thing that we're all tired of the multiverse. I think we're now tired of the multiverse being reset. I think we're all done with that. And like I said, the only good part of the last Venom movie was him saying, I'm sick of this multiverse shit. It was the first 30 seconds of the movie and then the rest of the movie was terrible.

I'm optimistic for a Fantastic Four. I thought Thunderbolt set up some stuff that could potentially produce. Yeah, I'll watch Thunderbolts, but I have I haven't yet to watch a good Fantastic Four movie. I agree. Yeah, I'm optimistic. Actually, I told my buddy Ricky and Kyle, like I said, you know, if Fantastic Four doesn't hit, I think I'm going to be done with the Marvel because I'm not I don't go to the theaters a whole lot anymore anyway. And you know, every all the movies that have been like Black Widow was a letdown. So, yeah, but I'm I'm I'm I'm up to this.

I think Fantastic Four is going to hit. I don't have faith, but I hope you're right. Yeah. OK, what's next, Keith? Unpaid or underrated, I believe, unless we miss anything that no, I've been a bunch of I've been working on this unpaid and underrated I believe unless we missed anything that uh no I've been a bunch of I've been working on this unpaid and underrated all day all right there big Derek so if you're not familiar with this game it's called unpaid or underrated similar to you know some amateurs over there that do a little

overrated or underrated you know this is the much improved vastly different you know completely original unpaid or underrated so can I give you a topic and you just gonna use your druthers, explain us why you picked it being underrated, which is awesome or why it's unpaid, which is not so great because no one wants to be unpaid. So I enjoy put all the work in these notes and I'm probably gonna just pick three that I just randomly pulled out of myself. So yeah, so for the record, we started with zero and I think I ended up with like 10 to 15 They just go into the notes and pick and stuff We'll let his how long how long when did he is dictate how many we go this would be this honestly

This might be one of my What do you call it like my best work of art? I think I'm gonna screenshot this and send it to you Derek because I'm so busy. Yeah, like work of art. I think I'm going to screenshot this and send it to you, Derek. Magnus Opus. Yeah, like normally I put like some effort and picking through and adding to it as we talk. But I had all of these ready before we even started talking. So. So I know I have my druthers, but would it be better to try and get through a few

or would you like to see how it goes? Let's just see how it goes, because Keith likes to ask three. And then sometimes I'm like, no, let's go like ask two more like go crazy Yeah, if you're quick I can answer a couple more because I said I added Joey added a bunch and then I pulled three of stuff We didn't talk about her stuff that I personally know about you Alright, so we had mentioned Captain America a lot So if you're not familiar with this then we can grow I go right past it But you're you're in your late 30s, right? Give or take?

So you would have, as a kid you might have seen this on TV at some point or rented at the movie store. The 1990 movie, Captain America. The IMBD rated 3.8 Captain America that I remember watching as a kid and thinking it was like, oh, this is an awesome movie. And then watching it as an adult going, my God, this is horrendous. So unpaid or underrated,, this is awesome movie. And then watching it as an adult going, my God,

this is horrendous. So Unpaid or Underrated, the 1990 Captain America movie. I'm going to go Unpaid. I haven't seen it. The reason I haven't seen it is because back in the 90s, when you go to Blockbuster like you did as a kid, right? I remember seeing the cover and wanting it. And then my parents said basically, no,

we're going to do something else and Never went back to it and then like as an adult I was like, oh man I'm gonna find that Captain America movie. I found a clip online and it looks so bad. I was like Never mind. I think I I Remember watching it as a kid and then I like I streamed it the other day just on like some bootleg site And I was like, this is horrible. watched this as a kid and thought it was good Like it was not good. All right, so good answer unpaid or underrated having a notebook full of notes. Oh And written yeah, how many notes have you taken during this podcast?

Yeah One, two, three. That's awesome. That makes me really happy to hear. Yeah. For whatever reason, my brain just processes stuff better when I can get it. It gets all jumbled up in there and then when I get it down on paper, it sticks and it helps me organize and feel a little de-stressed. So yeah, I'm definitely known in the fire department, especially for carrying around notebooks and I have lists on lists and some of that stuff sticks and some of it, times I'm just putting it down so I can forget it and move on to something else I actually have to do.

Yeah, definitely underrated. I think more, well, yeah, it's a very helpful tool to help organize your day and organize your thought. Nice, nice, good answer, I dig that. Unpaid or underrated, the Arnold, Columbus, Ohio the Arnold Was that your first time this year that was my first time I'm gonna say it's underrated The expo is definitely unpaid

But these shows are so good like seeing like the live powerlifting going walking and seeing the some of the arm lifting and the arm wrestling and just all the different events going on around the perimeter. That was, it was so awesome. It makes up for anything for the expo. Expo was just like way too crowded for me. It's too much, um, hustling going on. People waiting 45 minutes for a rain energy drink for some reason. Yeah. I mean, I got a couple of those, but like I would only go when the line was like ten people are less

And I was dying of dying of not having caffeine for hours Yeah, yeah Is interesting yeah When what were you there just one day cuz I know we had dinner together But like I don't remember seeing you at the expo hardly I did I don't remember seeing you at the expo hardly. I did. Yeah, so I'm going to blame the Arnold on that. So I wanted everyone to see the strong man.

And because I want to make sure I got a good seat or that I just bought a ticket for that, I didn't realize that I wouldn't have been able to see it if I hadn't bought the ticket. So I'm going to did that. So I pretty much just hung out in the strong man thing. And then when they were breaking up and down from events, I would wander through the expo. The one day I got in early, I kind of walked did like two laps around the expo before anyone got in there. Because I didn't realize that was a thing people like running to boost to get samples

of stuff. And so I kind of walked around saw what they had. I was like, Okay, well, nothing I really feel compelled to bring home with me. I wasn't like shopping for weights or anything. So cool beans. But yeah, no, we had a good we had a good dinner that night. I feel compelled to bring home with me. I wasn't shopping for weights or anything. Cool beans. But yeah, no, we had a good dinner that night. How far did you make it in the bar hopping crowd before you?

Because I don't think you made it back. Because we left the Eagle and went to fucking nine places and basically did nothing and then went back to the fucking Eagle for another two hours. I don't think you made it back to the Eagle with us. No. I kind of knew it had been a long couple of days and I had a long drive home the next day. It was like eight hours or so. Um,

so I kind of knew I didn't really want to stay out too late. Um, and there's like, I've been going to admin has been nice because I've sleep much, much better. And so now I've actually much more acutely aware of even like one or two drinks, how much I messes with my sleep. Um, so I kind of pick and choose my fights there. So I, myself, Big Ryan, and I'm blanking on the other crew that was with us, we all three of us just kind of Irish goodbye at the first bar.

When everyone was getting their ID checked, we just kind of kept walking. And then later on, we heard that every, yeah, we heard that y'all didn't have the best time, best luck finding a spot. No, we went to so many places it was funny Listen to the uh, so if you're if you know now that listen to the arnold recap episode because you did probably appreciate that Because you were you were there so that would that be a good cherry cherry pick to catch up on our backlog

All right, uh, i'll do a fourth wild card here, uh unpaid or underrated fire marshal bill Are you familiar with j the Jim Carrey character? Let me show you something. Oh, no. I'm familiar with that. No, no. You're good. Never.

That's wild that like that hasn't like you would think that would be like a real somewhere that firefighters share to each other because that was a wasn't mad TV. It was that was in living color. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That I knew it was I couldn't think of it was I only it was on a weird cable channel only my grandparents had when I was a kid. So I only saw it when it was at my grandparents in the summer,

like hanging out for the weekend or something. So but yeah, he was just a wild character. Like look up the file Marshall Bill just for like the. OK, but he would he make it a note. Yeah, it was Jim Carrey. He would suck his lips back. So his teeth were showing because he was all covered in burns. And he would like go to schools and light himself on fire to show you how dangerous fire was. Yeah, that's what that comes from.

All right. And now with that, I'll hand it off. That was a good one. I wish I'd done that one and I wish I had gone far. Unpaid or underrated energy drinks? Um, unpaid. There's a lot of synthetic junk inside of energy drinks. So I just like my caffeine plain unadulterated. So I do a caffeinated gum if I need caffeine. Yeah, I just feel like the energy drinks- That's a thing. Yeah, I just feel like the energy drinks. That's a thing. Yeah. So technically studies have proven that the fastest and most efficient way of caffeine

absorption is through the salivary glands. So like drinking it or snorting it or anything else is not as efficient as absorbing it through the salivary glands Which is why gum does make the most sense paste is technically like the most effective, right? Yeah Yeah, but it's just so funny Yeah, because it's so quick. It's so fast and say It's just funny like I don't want this synthetic stuff I want the hardest method possible It's just funny. Like I don't want this synthetic stuff. I want the hardest method possible. Exactly. Exactly. I do notice like I'll only chew it for like five, maybe 10 minutes tops. If I chew it for longer than that, actually I think it hits so fast that it starts making me

nauseous. So I'll just chew it for a little bit and spit it out. All right. Unpaid or underrated Sumo deadlifts. Sumo deadlifts are definitely underrated. At the end of the day, you still have to pull the weight off the ground in a position that's mechanically advantageous to you, right? So for some people, that's a conventional. For some people, that's a sumo. Yeah, I support the sumo deadlift. Now, that being Yeah, I support the sumo deadlift. Now that being said, I don't sumo deadlift. I don't think my body's really built for it. I feel much better with conventional deadlift.

That's the correct answer too. Yeah. I love it. The guy that, him and I go back and forth on this all the time and he's like so anti-sumo and all that to the point where it's just over the top. And yeah, in a good spirited way way we give each other shit every time neither one of us pulls sumo We've take opposite sides of the argument Joey calls that bozo shit a little bit

because I also like to be like What did I say the other day like some guy came up to me and he is like? What did how much do you like press and I went zero. I said zero because I'm not a bitch. And he was just like, what, what? And in my head, I was like, actually, like, do whatever is the best method of resistance training you can do. However, this is the funnier answer. So I'm going to go with this one, right? I got him all riled up for like, I don't like press because I'm not a bitch. Like I just do deadlifts and squats like a normal person and just to see them get all flustered. And then I was like,

I do it. I'm messing with you. Like I don't actually care. Whatever you do is good for you. But yeah, I thought that was pretty funny. Unpaid or underrated email signatures. Unpaid. Yeah. No one cares about all the letters after your name. Just put your name if you need to put your contact info. Yeah. Put it in there. But I don't I don't leave it in there because I don't want you to call me. If I give you my number, it's it's because I I'm OK receiving your call. Can I tell you something that my work has done? And I don't talk about work very often on here, but this is one of the most

frustrating things I've ever experienced. My work demands that I put my email address in my email signature. Yeah, a lot of places do that. That's awesome. And I just simply went, why? And they were like, so if you email somebody, they have your email.

And I was like, think about that for a second. Like, legitimately think about that response. If I email somebody, they can just hit reply. They don't need a link to my email signature in the email. I send them. And I have actually adamantly refused no matter what they tell me. I've just been like, I'm not going to do that. I'll do anything else. You tell me. I will just been like, I'm not going to do that. I'll do anything else you tell me

I will not put my email address in my email signature Yeah, I'm not I'm not a 70 year old person that like doesn't grasp that like no, I'm not doing that So I put that one in there because I also wrote in brackets. I also fucking hate these All right, I guess we're going rapid fire here. Unpaid or underrated, Tacoma FD. Is that a TV show? Yeah, it's Broken Lizard, the guys that did Beer Fest and Super Troopers.

That's amazing. OK, so that's a good name too. Yeah, no, I love Super Troopers. So it's probably pretty funny. I don't watch a lot of that kind of TV. No, that's fair. But now I kind of think you might have to cause it is the same guy, but they made a show about a fire department. You know what? That is probably more realistic. Like just knowing it's those guys, that's probably more realistic to a fire department than like Chicago FD, which is just utter

nonsense. Well, I saw the term probe in here, and I was like, I only know that phrase because of Tacoma FD. So somebody submitted that word, and I was like, I'm only familiar with that because of the FD. So all right. Last but not least, unpaid or underrated, pickled eggs. Pickled eggs. Ooh, underrated.

Hell yeah. Yeah, that nice brine solution gives them a little bit more texture when you're having them and like, you know You like pickles anyway, right? So it's almost just I have been like a salted hard-boiled egg. They keep forever. So yeah Underrated little salt and pepper Yeah down the hatch boys All right. Well you passed on paid you passed on Peyton underrated. You did it. We can hear the episode.

Finally publishes. All right. Do you have anything that you want to ask us or any games you want to play? If not, don't stress. Don't worry about it. The only thing that kind of jumped out to me as we were talking.

This one is for Keith Keith. You mentioned we were talking, um, this one is for Keith. Um, Keith, you mentioned, um, we're talking about, um, some barbells earlier. You're talking about the lead FTS and just wish you had gone a little bit more into that. What is a barbell that, uh, either a, your favorite barbell you have and why, or B that the, the Holy grail, the one you're looking for that would be like, Oh yeah, that's the, you know, that's the one I'm trying to get. It's the rogue Ohio bar. He misses it so much. Yeah, the higher deadlift bar. No, God, I hate that bar.

Um, I like, I don't really have a Holy, like I, at one point I thought getting a York power bar was going to be the Holy grail just because it's like, it's vintage, um, solely in like York made like millions, uh, tens of 1000s of Olympic bars with no center knurling that like everyone could go buy for $100 on marketplace if you wait long enough, but the power bar there's like, you know, one 100th maybe of them out there versus the other maybe one, one fifth like, I don't know, it's like for every 100 I see the one I see one of the other

basically, so I ended up getting one but the nerlingling is dog shit on it so it's like it's you it's it's it's like the dullest slickest bar and I don't know if it's just if they're all like that or just mine like I know they're all passive but I don't know if they're all as passive as mine but like what I thought I thought that was gonna be the holy grail and it was just kind of anticlimactic as far as my favorite I have some bars like it's kind of a more of those one of those things like I don't have a lot of my original bars cause I've upgraded everything to like different colors or different finishes.

So like it's kind of, it's a double edged sort of like, I have better bars now, but I don't have the original bars. So it's kind of like, if I look at my, and I wouldn't, it wouldn't even be something I would think about if I didn't have my spreadsheets. Cause like on my spreadsheet, I have like, like the year of purchase. So like I have all these, like I've had a gym since 2015, but then all these bars are from like 18, 19, 20, 21. So it looks like I didn't have any bars until then,

when in reality I had just inferior versions of it. But I did end up using, I'm probably gonna end, it'll probably end up back in my collection at some point because I sold my buddy an Ohio Power Bar and Black Zinc four years ago or five years ago. And I actually used it to deadlift a couple months ago like at his garage gym so kind of came full circle with that so that's like the most

nostalgia bar probably because that's the one I doesn't go the first bar that I bought that just wasn't a shitty cap like hex bolt bar and it's still like within a with you know a friend still has it but my favorite bar like if I can I don't know the bar that I wouldn't have I'd have a hard time not having would be my Duffalo bar just because I can do just being able to squat low bar without all that extra stress on the joints if you've never used a bow bar especially with your shoulder and so the SSB is great but like yeah with a with a home gym it's like unless you're kind of there's a Duffalo bar just got bought by someone else so they're gonna start making it again

but really there's like a 20 other bars that are similar enough that you could buy that but like It allows you to still lower high bar But it just like it lowers your arm position by like three or four inches basically So your elbows are a lot closer to your lats than they are like farther back essentially like you don't have to okay I don't know. It's just like if you have a fucked up shoulder what you do. It could be something to look into But that's definitely the bar that I would like outside of like a straight bar That's the bar that like I use the most but as far as like I don't know I Just but I really think that getting that nostalgia bar back from my buddy

I might have to trade him something or buy something but then it would just be like well now I have three Ohio power bars and they're not You know because I have two stainless steel ones So those are my daily drivers like and that's the one that everyone kind of gravitates to so No, I got a lot of bars, but not as Not as many as Dave Tate, but I think I only have a couple less than Tanner Look couple dozen probably yeah. Yeah, it's something the picture I've seen you do my you've got a lot of stuff and like a lot of plates and all that but yeah

We try well next time you're up here, come grab a lift. All right. Yeah, definitely. It's always open, freed, freed, a pass to crew and anyone that, you know, drove more than an hour gets to sign the banner. Hell, yeah. But you're worth it. Your second visit, you get us if you're local and it's your second visit, you get to sign the banner.

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And yeah, that's about it. This light, I'm gonna say, like you guys have been watching me squint and fidget with this thing. This thing has been in my eyes. I don't know if it's my allergies or not. I've been like out of it half of this time because I can't get this light out of my eyes.

Yeah, I'm pretty content with having my lights off and just being a floating head on the screen. This is what I would look like. If I turn the lights off, this is me right now. This is my podcast. That's fucking creepy. I look like a horror movie. Hey, just get a couple lasers.

Dude, that is awesome. That's really fucking creepy. Still like. I'm gonna have to pull that clip from the recording because that was just a floating, those were like beady eyes. It was beady eyes, teeth, and a mustache. That's all that was.

We might see that at the lift on Live2D3, right? You hope not. That was creepy. Yeah, that at the foot of your bed, it'll fucking make you kick something. Yeah, so that would freak you out. It's just been in my eyeballs the whole time. It's been awful.

So I apologize if I've been kind of staring staring at it and like trying not to look at it. It's nothing to do with the podcast. Something possibly a little more appealing to put in your eyeballs, you know, unpaid and underrated podcast on Instagram, unpaid intern podcast website, and we've got a YouTube go fight Carp for race your first comment. And until then, we'll see you next Tuesday I think we're we try to get into I wish we could've got like, you know Some episodes like go a lot more personal and deeper and poop story and it just all depends but you know

The food is are all you and the more we talk about them. The more I want to be like I don't care. I Genuinely don't care about poop stories. They're great. They're great. Yeah, I thought it was great. I thought we had, you know, we had a wide, wide range of topics. We talked with them. We talked comics. I mean, yeah, I I avoided a poop story question, too. I was someone the fellow firefighter, Adam.

And there's a there's like just a lot of firefighters in New York that I know. But like the like the fires in New York and New York is so big, right? Like you need that many fire departments to all of it. So the two guys and the two guys I know from Albany are both firefighters. They're both crew. So one of the ones that he didn't he basically Adam wanted to know, I think it was your your funniest proby story your most embarrassing Probie story, and the other one was like best patient shit story or something like that.

I was like, I really don't want to get, because I didn't really want to have you blow someone out and be like, yeah, this one guy shit his pants on the gurney. That wouldn't have been as funny, but that was definitely ass and I withheld. Yeah, I guess poop stories aren't the best. I will say if you had asked, there was a guy I went to recruit school with and he's no longer with the fire department.

But he was crazy. But he was a Navy diver and he claims that like, pooping yourself is normal for the Navy divers because they're in their wetsuits all day. It's like, okay, cool. Well, he pooped himself multiple times during the academy. When like we're just doing a drill and like the instructor would let you go inside and use the bathroom he would just shit himself they're like hey man that's not that's not cool stop doing that he was fucking weird man that is yeah he never he was actually never in the Navy yeah

he's just an excuse to shit himself yeah Hong Kong