Unpaid And Underrated - 110 : Soft Little Inner Goose

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Jennilee. They dive right into great topics like farm animals, name pronunciations, founding Massenomics, Columbus, and caffeine. Links Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @jennilee.phillips (https://www.instagram.com/jennilee.phillips/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Jennilee.

Okay, just to make sure we don't fuck this up again. Where are you recording to recording in progress? You are recording to this computer, correct? That's correct All right I mean you fucking better be that's what I thought you were doing last time And last time you dis disrespect me settings recording location desktop yes I ain't recording this computer and not to the Alright, we're probably good. Now I'm recording too early and nobody's here.

What do I do? I just work on my impressions. Here's my impression of Keith. Fuck. That was a pretty good one. Here's my impression of Nate. Blurr, blurr, blurr. That was pretty pretty good one. Here's my impression of Nate. Blur, blur, blur. That was pretty good. Um, who else do I have impressions of?

I've got a pretty good Tanner. Tanner's impression is, um, Hey, you like cottage cheese? Yep, nailed that. Nailed that out of the park. Got an impression of my wife. It goes something like this. Stop asking to see my tits. Nailed it too. Yep, nailed it. I'm pretty good at this. I hope you weren't listening too long because I heard something about your tits. Welcome to episode 616 of the unpaid and underrated podcast. The episode by crew for crew, the podcast for crew by crew, um, relentlessly mocked by crew and, uh, intros horrendously messed up by crew.

I am a big Joey hailing from the Canada's. I'm joined by Big Keith. Howdy, howdy, from the Rochester's. From the Rochester's, the biggest state in the US and the General League. Hello? Hello? Am I saying that right? Yes.

Yes. So. It's a miracle. It's it's like while my guitar gently weeps is the best way to remember that Yeah, nailed it. I'm so good at names There's like two things. I'm good at not words sometimes. Hey, yeah, well Whatever shut up. I think is what I'm looking for Shut up, I think is what I'm looking for. You guys. That's, yeah, we hopefully Nate can throw it in at the end or something.

But yeah, we had a little conversation of how to pronounce it. And I'm sure we'll go through a couple different, I'm sure I will pronounce it a couple different ways, but hopefully no one gets offended. I'll do my best. Yeah. So guys drinking anything cool? Any sparkling waters? Any beers? But hopefully no one gets offended. I'll do my best. Genelay. Yeah. So guys drinking anything cool? Any sparkling waters?

Any beers? Anything fun? Just a gallon of Poland Springs. I have poppies today. Ooh, what flavor? It's the Alpine Blast, which I think is like Mountain Dew. Maybe. Yes, it's trees.

They're like piney. Nice. Yeah, very piney. Nice. Yeah, very piney. You got anything over there, Joey? No. I don't do anything. Like, yeah. I've tapped out.

It was like we, I went like 18 months and tried to have something new, like regularly. Granted, there was a lot of repeats, but like I tried not to have like a repeat repetitively. Dude, it got expensive and it got tiresome. And it was just like, I can't do it. Um, we did appreciate it. I think we all had some crew donate some stuff to us or mail us some stuff. That was awesome. But like, I can't go, I'm not going to drive over, drive all over the country

and the state, the biggest estate is I'm sure I could find new drinks, but then I don't have time for that. Like it's hard enough to get the show notes and get everything ready. I think what did me in was I started asking Morgan to pick stuff up for me. And she started getting random shit. Did you end up getting the, at the kid's birthday party, were you finally able to drink the one sparkling water

that you were drinking? Oh, yeah. I drank like three of them in the following two days, too. Yeah. The root beer one. Yeah. Of course I did. Can I finally have one of these?

Nice yeah I'm wearing I got an I got the new merch drop. That's the first really I feel bad Sometimes I like I don't get stuff in the drops, but I it's been a decent amount of money this last time I got the the home gym nerd shirt. I'm rocking that fits good Happy happy with it Mine is stuck in Chicago Chicago so it left Carol stream oh nice or as you pronounced it Carol's stream also it's okay so that's that was the bit okay so it's just it's a Carol stream but it's funnier when

it's Carol string and it's PB but that's But usually once it hits Chicago it just flies across the border and gets here. So hopefully I'll have that. I'm wearing a Deadlift Till I'm Dead shirt that says fuck this I'm going to Deadlift because that was the kind of day I had. Nice. Jenellie, you got anything cool over there? I just have the the Mastnomix gym one. I don't know if you guys have a name for this one. It's just the gym Yeah, Jim Jim Jim Jim and Yep, yep A few colors, but that's good stuff. I think that was first launched as a crew exclusive Like gym members and crew only if I recall correctly and is that one on like the og cut like that's that's not the comfort color

Right. Yeah, not comfort colors They have that on the company. Yeah, I'm still riding the line on I'm like they're great in the winter cut like that's that's not the comfort color right yeah not comfort colors they have that on the come yeah I'm still riding the line on I'm like they're great in the winter yeah I don't I can't wear them in the summer I'm too and I'm too short to wear I'm comfortably with like the new shorts too like I can wear them in the gym I guess but like I don't know it looks like I'm like wearing a dress cuz I'm done that's why you got to tuck the back into the back of your shorts so everybody can see The reason you're posting on Instagram

Now I love the comfort colors I'll wear oversized shirts all day every day And you want to do some? Yeah, so We missed it with a couple YouTube videos. So Jake from garage. I'm experiment He had his big tour and then dr. Tati waffles Big Dan, I believe it is his drop today. Not I'm not super familiar with I know I'm like, you know Mutuals and everything with him on social But I don't think I've had a whole lot of interaction with Dr.

Tati Waffle. So that was kind of cool to see him on camera. And honestly, I don't think I knew what he looked like until I saw that video. So, and others, you know, some, some pictures from that trip they took. So, uh, both were enjoyable, uh, gym tours, a lot of tech talk, a lot of this, uh, you know, go into vultures and everything. I did like, uh, Tati Waffle had a lot of cool shit tucked away in his gym and he even had like a, it was almost obsolete at that point because he had all the vultures but he initially, like his initial lat pull down was like an old cable

stack mounted like flush up against the wall with a, you know, with a pulley going up the garage and then kind of back a little bit and he used his Rogue, I think it's the Rogue Donkey where it's like the GHR and reverse hyper combo. So he was able to like basically sit in it and have the pads of that hold his knees down and just do lap pull downs with like completely zero space consumption, which is kind of cool.

And I just, he had a lot of little like neat, niche touches like that. So I really enjoyed his gym specifically. And then Jake, you know, I've been friends with Jake for years, so it's kind of cool to actually see his gym. Cause usually I only see it like in the background was podcasts and like a little clips here and there. He's, he doesn't, he doesn't love like being on camera and stuff. So it's, uh, you know, actually seeing his space and have Tanner and Tommy kind of pull some stuff out of them was pretty cool. So I enjoyed both those videos. Uh, I don't know if anyone else had a chance to watch either

of them at all, but, uh, so after you explaining all of that, it tells me, I don't know if anyone else had a chance to watch either of them at all but I'm gonna after you explaining all of that it tells me I don't think I actually have earned the home gym nerd shirt because all of that sounds like shit I don't care about no offense like you like the rogue elephant or whatever I'm like I don't know what that is don. Don't get a lap pull down. Like, I don't know any of this stuff. I lift that lift the rock and I lift the barbell and that's where it ends for me. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. Quick thing. So I was at a farm the other day and I was messaging Cody about it. I put it in here and.

Wow. And the other day and I was messaging Cody about it. I put it in here and wow and there was barn swallows and I got pretty excited because I've never really seen barn swallows up close right and dude get over it. No there's only one joke you can make and it's not funny and So I messaged Cody and I was like like I've never been this close to barn swallows like these things were coming at my face and So I sent a picture I'm ruining my own story at this. You're such a 12 year old boy. Yes, I am.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. DM and Cody about birds. So there was also a bunch of swans and something called an African goose and These all the swans and the African geese were going insane and he goes. Oh, did you pick them up on Merlin and I didn't like I failed as a bird nerd to pick up It didn't actually didn't actually bring your phone. I didn't even I know I was just so excited to see all these weird random words I didn't even think of the app. So, you know, I let Cody down

I let the Merlin down the Merlin thing. Is it kind of like does it have a little like Pokemon go kind of feature where it actually tracks every bird you've seen like you can kind of like like like well No, there's no leveling to it. But yeah if you will no, there's no leveling to it, but yeah if you're recording and It picks up a bird it will ask you to confirm if you've seen that bird Okay, and if you have it adds it to your list Oh guys you at least have like a running a running tally of like you've you've observed a hundred birds versus like the other the guy

That just started. It's got two. Yeah, so I was running You know as I traveled across North America to go to South Dakota like I was running it everywhere we went but yeah I missed the chance to pick up African geese like yeah I let you down buddy what a loser idiot what's up with Nate man I don't know I know you've been putting some posts up there or some polls up on the IG. I didn't actually see that until a little bit ago. Maybe chuckle, because it kind of made some of the DMs

that I saw make more sense after that. But yeah, Nate just likes to, you know, I guess we'll just start calling him the voyeur, you know? He's just looking at our polls and he's not, you know, he's not swayed one way or another. And it's not like these are hard questions. It's not like you have to put much thought into it. It's just yes or no or I don't know why I just don't know why he won't

It was funny cuz I was already I had already added the comment before I'd noticed that you had a poll that he also ignored So like they just made a double like what the fuck Nate so no blurr. I don't know what's going on But he doesn't have time for us. I guess I'm sad Tom won't let him out of the cage Yeah, maybe it's maybe the movie is Tom. You know, it's Tom. That's not you know, actually Clicking the button I guess I don't know. It's strange. She'll have to update that AI. I think we're boring. Generally here probably Yeah, we're halfway done. No, I'm good. I've got the Merlin too buddy Yeah, we're halfway done. No, I'm good. I've got the Merlin too. Oh, yeah, buddy I can imagine just with your your what you haven't stocked at your house You probably get ready different things clicking and clacking on it

and then it ended the debate is what's a like Is everything with a wing a bird? Like what's is a duck like so I can't like it Is a duck a bird or is it? like my ducks are around when I'm trying to record, it will just say mallard. Okay. Like, even if they're not mallards, but I don't know how well it can differentiate those. For the first little while when we were running the app in the backyard, my little girl would go and squeak and would think there was like swans and stuff, but like they're not in this area

They would be like, oh, there's like a Texas Swan in your and we're like no there isn't but it was just my little girl going Funny it's like, you know saying Siri and but saying not saying Siri but saying something Siri adjacent and his phone picking it up But my phone got me with that yesterday. I don't remember what the hell I was saying but it made Stephanie and I both kind of pause and laugh. So I had a good Facebook deal the week there last week. I know Joey's all mad at me because I spent a little money without you know. Matt you know disappointed yet. Yeah, I know. I know. I mean in this economy economy it's hard to spend more than 250 bucks though

And that's all I see that's all I spent for like a $1,150 concept to row or that's what that's what it cost to get that meat However, you have to justify it to yourself. That's fine. The things in mint condition. I So would your laptop be if you bought a new laptop? Lot more a lot more than 250 bucks, but I might, I don't know, like I'm still on the fence. I've never, I've done rowing like in a gym a couple of times in my life, but I was like, it was too good of a deal to pass up. And worst case, I can flip it for like triple my investment. Basically. I'm going to give it an honest go for a couple months.

Maybe I just, I need to watch some YouTube videos on it. Cause a couple of times I've used it, I can't go more than a couple of minutes without like my whole body hurting because I don't know what the fuck I'm doing and like my feet start to hurt because I'm not wearing the right shoes or I'm not doing the right rhythm. So I've asked for a few couple of feedback from people and gotten some different different gotten different feedback from a few different people. I just need to actually like take a half hour and watch a bunch of YouTube videos and actually teach myself how to row and what shoes to wear because at the moment I'm leaning towards

getting rid of it, but I need to give it an honest go first but I don't know that was definitely a deal of the week for me. Speaking of shoes I was buying Oren some shoes yesterday and um I won't bury the lead here Morgan finally got her license. Dope that's awesome. Yeah she finally got her driver's license she passed her first for first try she She actually passed the test. So nice. Congratulations Morgan. Yeah to my wife Morgan. But we're buying shoes and my daughter picks up these giant platform shoes. And I said those are the opposite of what daddy likes. Daddy likes his barefoot shoes and there's some lady in the lineup. She goes, do you have those? Do you like those? I've been thinking of looking at them. And I just held up my leg and was like, I am wearing them right now. They are to my 24 seven shoe. And she goes, well, where do I get them? And I said, barefoot that store. In fact, I can get you

10% off. And then she went, Oh, no, I got to be careful. I have bad knees. And I went, you're literally wearing flip flops lady. And these won't do anything. Those flip flops aren't doing. But also I'm not gonna sell- Except not break your ankle when like you roll out of your flip-flop. Yeah, I'm also not gonna sell shoes to a lady in a shoe store that I don't work at.

That didn't seem like a- That would be funny. Yeah. I did actually, I was really helpful to the guy, the one manager there, he went looking around for something, he came by and he says, has anybody seen a clipboard with some tickets on it? And the girl behind that kinda goes,

I didn't know there was a clipboard with tickets on it. He goes, I know it's somewhere. And then I let him walk away and then I stopped him. I went, oh, if you can't find it, just look for that thing that looks like a clipboard with tickets on it. And he goes, thanks, man. Big help. And I was like, Hey, man, anything I can do to help.

Is that figured you were gonna say that or you told him to try someone else's hardest to find? That one's mean. The other one's just useless. So I will touch on the drop a little bit. So my shirt came I got the home gym shirt I got the the crispy boy t-shirt because I wanted another like, you know Not comfort color shirts that actually fits because I'm but you know A lot of my shit still like in the wrong size. So got another one of those for the summer And then I did finally pull the trigger on the stall mat coasters, which I know

so like Do I tell you what it's been like two or three days now and they're still off gassing on the front porch Just to like cuz I brought him in the house and I was just like Stephanie's not gonna allow these to be in the house cuz like I I can tolerate it to an extent I mean it just it basically, you know It was also a really hot day like that was like was like 85 degrees when they delivered so the package was like like Molten lava when I opened it up. like the shirts were just like you know all You know they immediately went into wash

But those those I did have them on the end table because I was gonna leave them there for the night just to see If she commented and like I was just sitting like in the other room And I was like and I can smell those fuckers over here So I was like let's let's let's let's leave them outside for a few days see what happens I was gonna I was gonna wash them, but I was if I like, you know put too much effort and wash them I just start rubbing off the logo. So TBD where those are gonna end up probably in the garage for a while until but I'm sure I'll put one in the basement somewhere I don't know but uh, they were cool and you know all the marketing and all the everyone else having one

I just I couldn't resist but once I put my order and I did forget I realized I forgot to buy the damn The the fucking the beer. Oh, no, you didn't buy the new drink spotter. No Yeah, I was like fuck I didn't did that but then I wasn't gonna be like I didn't want to be that guy that Like says hey Tanner add this to my order and then return my shipping and blah blah blah Yeah, I'll get one in July. It'll be easy enough. So Yeah, I almost I almost got them and I was just started like thinking logistically like doing a map of the house where I Would put horse stall coasters. Yeah as a person who traditionally does not enjoy using coasters at all Like I'd rather use a cozy so I don't have to

So I just didn't pull the trigger on those I'm down for silliness, but there's's some silliness I have to draw the line at. The only follow-up I have is that he did hook me up with some good stickers. I think it was the first 50 got the home gym nerd shirt and I was in on that and then I got lucky enough and he threw a silly goose sticker at me and then I think I got one of the, it was like the burning skull or like a flaming skull or something and I realized I didn't have that one made into a magnet and I didn't see it in my like my stockpile of Masonomic stickers so I think I actually got like three

original or three new to me stickers for the magnet wall so I was pretty stoked about that. I got the Arnold's bathroom sticker. Oh nice. Oh, yeah never get your hands on one of those Tanner keeps trying to get rid of them and they just keep showing up. He just can't unload those fast enough There's like an alien in the back room that just keeps spitting those out every time he tries to get rid of them For sure. All right. You want to rate last week's episode and then get into things? Yeah, let's do it.

Let's do it. Um, so it was, they basically compared, you know, a virtual coach. Bye, Jenellie. She didn't want to hear my, you know, There was a phone call coming in, but it's not. Okay. We're good. Decline.

App coaching versus in-person coaching or having a real coach versus using an app basically. So as someone that I've never really used the app, I've mostly been either just doing well, I mean, I guess I've run templates, if you will. And then I've done, I've worked with the same guy that's just written my programming for the last like eight years give or take so uh I'm kind of biased if like I like having my in-person coach you know I can see the benefits of if you don't have someone you trust kind of and someone you have a good rapport with to you know it's significantly it's like

half the cost to do the Chad Leslie Smith app so that's great but you know I'm I'm pretty good with what I have So I can't really be swayed one way or another on that one other than what I already, you know feel with The debates they were talking about with the this is the episode where they talked about The squat what's what's the upper body squat and deadlift, right? That was this episode Mm-hmm. I believe yeah, because I listened to the so much of the freaking one last night too as everything's blurry. So Really did enjoy that. I believe. Yeah. Cause I listened to so much of the fricking one last night too, as everything's blurry. So, uh, really did enjoy that. Uh, I, I think I had a lot of the same, when they said, what's the, what's the squat of the upper. I can't remember. It's the squat of the upper body is the dip. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They were going with that. The one

that I think I, when the, cause then they switched it around too. It was like, what's the bench press of the lower body. And like before they said it I Instantly was like leg press and then they were like leg press But then I think they just ended up changing it something else maybe but except except bench is impressive And then I think it would have been from a few up a few Episodes ago and Tanner had mentioned the bin Laden Netflix thing and I finally did watch that well the big Stephanie and I Consume that over the last couple nights. It's only like three or four hours. It's pretty consumable.

And if you're anywhere like in that 30 to 40 age range, like you lived all of it. So it's kind of cool to relive all that. I can't rate it anything related to that though. It's not gonna think of something witty. Oh no. I'll go ahead and give it a five out of five coaches. Cause I can't go.

Oh no. Five out of five, nine 11s. No, I can't give it a five out of five coaches. Because I can't go. Oh, no. Five out of five, nine eleven. No, I can't. I can't do that. No, those bad taste memes up to Nate. Yeah. Him and his fucking. You know, he has he has he does have some. Nate definitely has significant more time than me because he's not voting or anything.

Yeah. Generally, did you want to vote? OK, I am going to give it five out of five Handstand push-ups as squats of the upper body. Yeah. Oh nice That's a fair light. I think that one did go through my brain too. Yeah, they didn't they didn't mention that they did on the doctor I think it was the tattie waffles video He had a well so slightly adjacent related, he had a, like a wooden part on his wall. He had like a piece of plywood basically on his wall for doing handstand push-ups. And he said he didn't use it anymore.

And then it went back to the whole Tanner's ass going through Jujy Mufu's drywall wall, like over the summer or the fall or whatever, the winter, whatever that was. And then like they did like Tommy edited even like a slo-mo of his ass breaking the wall in the video. I just thought it was great. it was great that they harken back to that. I really did enjoy that. It was really the whole episode last half it was the stupidest thing to even try to figure out. I mean I couldn't believe how hard I was thinking about what this is and trying to keep track of what I was thinking. Yep. It was like nine. It was like eight o'clock on a Sunday night.

And I'm like, why am I I'm putting so much energy into this? And it's like, I'm not going to remember this tomorrow. But the whole time I was waiting for someone to say pull up for the deadlift and then Tommy finally said pull ups and I was like the Leo DiCaprio. Oh, yeah, that's a good point. I was like the Leo DiCaprio Geez you guys covered everything I would even consider talking about Like I don't like I almost didn't find myself going through what is the blank of the blank I my brain just couldn't Allow myself to do it. But also, I think I was taking it seriously for a second. And I think the dumber I thought about it the

more I started like the deadlift of the upper body is rack supported axle deadlift or overhead press sorry. Like I just started really getting silly with it because ultimately it is a stupid thing and yeah so I'm gonna head give this week's episode five out of five dips there you go also I don't do dips I should I haven't done a dip since I was like 200 pounds probably well then why don't do dips. I should. I haven't done a dip since I was like 200 pounds probably. Well then why don't I start dipping and then when I dip you dip then we dip. I have done some like some very like I mean I don't I don't have a dip stand now but like we set up a very hokey two barbells on spotter arms like and you just hope that they don't fucking roll and

you're just like yeah wasn't I've seen people set up their trap bar in there in their rack let it be and trying to do like that way yeah that's hard mode for sure right like cuz now you're gonna roll because I think we also my trap bar the the handle spin now like you're quadruple going to die. Like the one time I think we set up the maybe we did it twice, but I we did like we like we were using extra wrist straps and stuff to like anchor the bars

like to the sides of the power actually at least they didn't move. But then it was like way wide as shit too. It was like the depth of the power rack. If I recall so long ago. But yeah, I think that

generally did you see anything in general topics this week in? Mastodon mix world lore anything you wanted to hit on before we moved on No, I think In the last year, I've probably done a little bit of all of those things so I can get into it later Between you know having the know, having the coach, not having the coach, following a program and which one. I'll just have to start at the beginning. Yeah, we'll definitely dive into that once we get the guest on the horn here in a little bit. But I guess if we've got nothing else for general topics, we'll do a mass nomic

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Yeah, that was that was meant. Well done. Well done. Lovely. Let's get our guest on the horn. I think I can. All right, generally, is that you? Yes, I am here.

Hey, welcome. You're live and unpaid and underrated. We're going to get right into it. We don't want to miss any gold. We don't want to miss any fun. You know, we just had a little conversation with some other crew members and now you're here. I want to ask the first question because normally what we ask is how did you find Massenomics? And I think the question I want to ask you is how did you found massonomics? Yes. So the butterfly effect is crazy because what if I never quit my job?

No. Okay. Everyone take a shot from here forward if you hear me say Grayson. So really that will probably be the main thing that brought me here. And also, they're, they're all in town with me, right. So I've kind of always known about everything and everyone. But, you know, Grayson's always been lifting there and started participating in the events. And

we always wanted to go watch him. So we started watching way back, I don't know the years, when they first did the Strongman event in the tent at the Brown County Fair. 2017, I think. 2017, something like that, yeah. Yeah, so then we, in 2016, started our home gym We, in 2016, started our home gym. And it was kind of just like, well, we need these banners, we have to get these banners. So I think they were kind of already speaking to the home gym community before they even

really realized how much they were a little bit. But so we started buying banners probably in 2017. We had just been spectating everything all the way up until this one here. First, the dusty tent at the fair, we were peeking over everyone and trying to see. And then the second one was a little bigger and more spread out. We had, you know, bleachers and stuff. But yeah, I guess really I would have to say Grayson.

Do you mind sharing the story for people that might not know about the butterfly effect? Oh, right. Well, like I said, you founded Masanomics in some roundabout way. Let's see if I can get this right. I think Tommy had applied for a job where I was working and he never got a call, never got a call and he was like, okay, I didn't get it. I didn't get it, whatever.

And then right around the same time, I was kind of getting ready to leave. So I quit and, um, so they, I think even a friend of his was like, let's just move, let's go and he's like, yeah, I'll move. I don't care. I didn't get the job. Let's go. Then they called him and that's the only thing that, you know, kept him in Aberdeen was, um, taking my position.

And then he was telling, yeah, he was telling the story about how everybody kept talking about you and then you joined crew and he was just like, there's no way there's two gentilees in, in Aberdeen. And yeah, so you quitting your job is what kept Tommy in Aberdeen. Yes. And mass nomics never would have been started, right? Correct. So. Well, it's still be tanner.

Thank you for getting your job. Powder reviews. Holding up bananas. Yeah. So this is just a lesson and a message. If you're thinking of quitting your job, do it. You never know what comes of it. That's not a good message. Don't listen. Yeah, no. It might not be. It might not be. If you have a family, like quit your job, something else sucks or have a partner that, you know, is a breadwinner, like do smart decisions. Go ahead ahead Keith.

Uh, big generally where would people find you at over there on the Instagrams? Don't go off Keith's spelling, but generally Phillips. I swear I copied that off of somewhere because like even like I, the font was even different in the show notes or in my spreadsheets. I was like, I knew I copied it from somewhere. So either I typed it wrong and copied it wrong from somewhere. But like I got it from some of the, I have so many fucking spreadsheets between rosters and crew this and upcoming guests that, uh, I don't know.

But yeah, two ends, one L two E's. Yes. Holy shit. I got it right. Hey, there's my balloons. He just read it off the screen ladies. No, I was typing it earlier to save it to the hard drive and I was like, gosh, I hope this is right.

It doesn't even phase me anymore. Nobody gets my name right. Spelling or pronouncing. Don't blame your parents. I relate a little bit on that. No, you don't David. Yeah Conversation yesterday did a new doctor visit yesterday and it was the whole like oh you're not David I'm like, no, I'm David but I go by Keith is like, oh why I was like fuck you Too many goddamn times in my life

Let me tell you about the economics discord Yeah, so go follow her on Instagram if you're not already. Check out her all her strongman journey that's going on now and all the chickens and the kids and the farm and all that good stuff. So Aberdeen native or just where you're at now? Yep. Yep. Born and raised. Live anywhere else or literally always kind of in that general area? Oh, just here, yep. Yeah. That's exciting, I know.

For how many? 40, 40 plus? Or 40 even? In my 41st year, I'm 40. Yeah. Nice, I will be, when this hits, there'll be three 40 year olds on the podcast, but I'm still 39.

I'm 39 and fucking 348 350 something 361 yeah, I know I was tired Three the math Yes, yes, I'm not as quick as I used to be some days. All right, so you're an Aberdeen native. You've been around a good while there for as far as having Mastodomics in your eyesight there. Is there one piece of merch or anything that you're just like,

man, I wish I had got that while it was still available and anything like that? Yeah, it's definitely the camel hat. Yes, I have that while I was still available and anything like that. Yeah, it's definitely it's definitely the camel hat. Yes, I think is it like an orange print, maybe too. So, yeah, I almost got that. And then I didn't. And. Can I tell you, I'll just make you a little more jealous. I took my kid to soccer and I was in a horrible mood. I did not want to take my kid to soccer and deal with other parents. And can I tell you that when I wear that hat, I am the least approachable person in any crowd because look at me, like just covered in tattoos, long beard. And then I put the camo hat on. Oh, man, it was awesome. Nobody talked to me. Nobody approached me. This family set up their stuff nearby and I just had to give them like this really like glance and they started like moving

their stuff a little bit. Like it was really funny. Oh yeah, that hat is dope for that scenario. Also, like you would wear for hunting and stuff, I guess. Like you would have practical uses, I guess. But meanwhile, here have practical uses, I guess. But meanwhile, here I am just like, no, this hat makes me perfectly unapproachable in public and I can't, I can't put a value on that. Do you have a Hall of Fame status? I do. Including today?

If I include today and if I include competing, I would have eight. Very good. By July then, okay. Which I think is half. Is there 16 on there? Yep. Yeah, so that's pretty, more than I thought. Hey, anything above one is amazing. Halfway there.

I say that in every episode. Anything above one is amazing. Yeah. So you had mentioned, so, I'm sorry, so to go back to more of your origin story as far as Mathematics gym specifically, I know I see you training there sometimes on and off. Is that just to get the strongman stuff? Have you always been a member? Are you currently a member? What's your status?

I just joined. Yeah, I have not always been. Let's see how far back I should start. So when I signed not always been. I, let's see how far back I should start. So when I signed up for the strong man, I'll say, you know, maybe two weeks before I said, I'm going to reach out to Megan, Megan Stone. I'm going to ask her to help me, uh, coach me. And that, that was like my end all be all. Like if she says she'll help me, I'll sign up. And she did.

And when she found out, you know, what I was trying to train for, she's like, you know, this is where you're going to need to go. So you need to ask me, you need to ask Tanner if you can. And, and there was a lot of things I didn't have at the time and I still you're gonna need to go. So you need to ask Tanner if you can. And there was a lot of things I didn't have at the time and I still don't have a lot of things. So it was just the right place to use that equipment. Nice, cool. So it's been a nice little addition to the home gym.

How is that though? Cause have you ever been a commercial gym person? Never. That could have been- You've always had the privacy of the home gym aspect? So, but I mean, Mastronomics Gym is about as close as you can get to a home gym that's public, kind of from my experience. Yes, yes.

So far out of my comfort zone to leave my garage, I was definitely starstruck when I went in there for the first time. What everybody there is big and strong so it's also like. Can be a little overwhelming you know. What did i decided if i'm going to you know. to, you know, go to the competition and get in front of people on lift. I need to go get in front of people on lift. So, yeah, no, the tracks. Yeah. Trying to go there more often just for that.

Everybody there is big and strong, but they have a vested interest in you also getting big and strong. It is just the best. Yeah. Yeah. I've never had a bad day in there for sure. Well, that's awesome. I've only been three times and I can say the same thing That's where I learned that's where I did my first log press right my first atlas stone was actually taught to me by Megan as well right, so

Yeah, can't confirm that place is awesome Are you certified? Yes, yes, what's the home gym name? I think well Yes. Yes. What's the home gym name? I think, well, we're going by the Roost, but I think our certification might say like Phillips Jam or something. I like the Roost.

That's actually, that's a good one. I do like a good wit and pun invested into the home gym name. I very much appreciate those. So we'll have to explain to the Davids later on why the roost is relevant but you know we'll let them you know mull that over until we get to it so when you had to you know I sent you the questionnaire there a while ago and you just you just handed out some family and friends Mastanomics is hard enough to explain and then us being a you know a subsect

of Mastanomics how did that conversation go when you sent that link to your you know your family and friends? I didn't say anything. I just sent it. You weren't even like please fill this out of it's just just that no text. No what I sent like when I sent it to my sister I think I just said I'm probably gonna regret sending these to you. I'm sure that's true, but no, I just assumed people could read. I mean, you have instructions on there, right? So yeah, yeah, but generally you give, you give the human culture. You give people way too much credit to think that people can follow instructions and direction and requests.

So that's good stuff. So I have a game we like to play. It's a, you know, it's called least fun, most fun. So I'm going to give you one specific topic and you can talk on it for as little or as long as you want. But at the end of the day, I want you to tell me basically the least fun specific thing about it and the most fun thing specific about it. So looking for two separate answers for one individual topic. So I threw a couple up here I was going to pick from. We're going to get into all of them at some point, but let's go with farm life.

Okay. Winter is the least fun. And, you know, especially with water. Most fun. Keeping it from not freezing basically? Yeah. Yeah. Do you have like electric heater things and all the barrels and all that?

Right. And plus you have to go outside. I mean, there's not the option to like not go outside. You have to because the animals need the food and water, right that's 365 days not the 350 something I mentioned earlier and the most fun is of course gonna be just getting those eggs having those fresh eggs every day now do you guys do you guys sell a bunch of those or anything or is it solely for like you you know, the Phillips breakfast table? I don't sell them.

No. How many eggs do you get a day on average? Gosh, you know, my co worker, she's got 20 something chickens. She can't give them away fast enough. Like, I really I still have a bunch on my cabinet. The nice thing about fresh eggs, and not store eggs is they are dry storage and they last a lot longer, right? Because they're not washed. So I'm still sitting on some nice blue and pink ones from the last batch she gave me. What are you getting there? I suppose right in this nice summer, spring summer, We can probably get a dozen a day

Chief but you know, my husband would eat like six and one morning, you know Asked here The kids will all eat slightly above bagels somehow So between you know, once all of us do that there's not a lot left. Good. That's the best way to get eggs. Other game we like to ask everybody that I kind of started a couple weeks ago. You're about to go out and do a big heavy lift. Okay you can pick any lift doesn't matter what it is. Who's the one person you would want to be your height person for that one big lift? Okay, at home, it's my husband, easily.

And he will anytime it looks like I'm about to go be just a little bit, she'll start screaming at me at massnomics. It's definitely Megan. Megan, obviously. Yeah. So I picked two, I guess. No, that's, that's fine. You are allowed your druthers on every question we ask you.

Indeed. OK, Chad wants to know. So this is from the Instagrams. Why are your chickens such assholes? It's because they think they have babies so they're brooding. Right, so they're trying to peck my hand off because I'm stealing their children. Brooding chickens are assholes. Yes. That is correct. All right, I don't understand this question. How many chickens will you bring to the Ramcotta? How many do you want?

Yeah, I won't be there so at least six Okay, they will be roosters. Oh no Okay, they will be roosters. Oh no. How are you? My, I was just telling you about my coworker. Her rooster just attacked her. She had to manually put it down. They don't attack me.

They're just really mean to the hens. Yeah. So you have the perfect opportunity to do a live in-person horse cock with your literal horse and your literal rooster cock and did that as a meme picture somehow. Yes, I have thought about this. Nice, great minds think alike. I love it. I love it.

That is good. Yeah, because they're all about that horse cock. I've never heard that phrase until the Juchi Mufi thing. And none of those are boot, I don't know. It seemed like it all came after that or leading up to that. So that was a new one for me for sure. So as far as your fitness journey goes, obviously you started lifting,

you started the home gym in 2015, you didn't go to a commercial gym. So that was probably your first experience with the barbells like What kind of training were you doing? Have you been consistent with it on and off? Like what's uh, um fairly consistent? Yeah, the thing is when I started, you know, everything was on my own and I just did a whole lot of the like High intensity hit, you know the CrossFit style stuff So I was just like I gotta go get this wad in every day, you know and die on the floor And I did that for a really long time and then I finally was like I don't do that anymore. I would say For the year leading up to

Signing up I did Meg Gallagher's app. That's like Meg Squats. Yep. Yep. I'm familiar. So it's called Stronger By The Day. I really liked that. I was able to kind of move things up a lot within that last year. And then, like I said, when I signed up, I contacted Megan. And I think I did like two months with her. You can almost call it like a strong man starting, I guess. But also she just taught me so much stuff I didn't know from being on my own. I didn't know how to breathe, brace or, you know, just it was so useful. I really needed that.

That's awesome. And then when I left there, I started the juggernaut strongman, which those are 12 weeks. So I did two of those. weeks. So I did two of those. And then I told I was like, telling Jake that I'm like, I don't know how this is gonna work. Because you couldn't like go in there and enter a meet the way you can with like juggernaut powerlifting. Okay, it's just 12 weeks. Yeah. Auto have it do like a five week prep or something. So yeah, that's kind of useless for your instance Yeah, having the timeline being right so so I told him this is gonna be off I don't know what to do or what do I do with this weird set of weeks in the middle? And he's like, I think I'm going to see How many people want you know want me to write something that's kind of specific to this competition and I was like, yeah

I would just totally go for that and then I think quite a few people went for it And so yeah, that's what I'm doing now is Jake. So I kind of done a little bit of everything Over the last year between coaching and juggernaut and apps and bot program. Yeah Yeah, that's kind of cool I see a lot of the guys doing Jake's program together and like, you know You see a lot of the same type of training that you know like just it's been kind of cool to see that on the old Instagram stories. The Juggernaut one I think the reason it doesn't let you

schedule a meet is because there's no reason to peek right there's no reason to that level of thing it's just maintain your consistency and your in your rep style I know that in the past I've kind of shit on the Juggernaut Strongman, but I think that I've, I've recently become to love it. I'm in probably the best shape I've been in even while I was doing Juggernaut powerlifting. So I definitely have some attachment to it. Also want to point out, Meg Squats is a supporting member. Nice. Not in the top 10 but. Nope, one of those one of those hidden supporting members that doesn't come into discord. Yep. Good stuff. You have a sacred massonomics cowbell somewhere. I do. That was from the second second strong man

Red I have read I don't know I assume they're all red but I could Yeah, they did the team red because it was that specifically okay they had teams yeah Yeah, that was that was the middle year room I remember the last year definitely It wasn't the first one was either the middle or the last they did the teams I watched all big back out a lot guy over here. Yeah, I watched them all That's pretty cool no cuz I remember I posted like a clip or something from that and you were like That's my kids from yeah, you know like eight years ago or something. I like that's me ringing the damn bell So I threw that in there because I just thought that was a little funny tidbit. Um, So Do you have any so as a client of Jake's what's the what's what's the mystery event? What are we doing?

We'll see a mystery event Carrie Some kind of death cross front zircar carry bullshit. I would love to know. And I think I just want to take this time to say that when we all voted, I did not vote for mystery. I don't know anybody. He put it in the discord for Do you want to know or do you love secrets? And I said, everybody voted for secrets

and I said, I wanna know. So I just wanted to tell everyone that. Off to go look to see if that's still like archived in there, I wanna see if I voted or not. Or if I saw that, I couldn't imagine I would have voted for a mystery or a secret. I fricking hate both of those. I won't imagine I would have voted for a mystery or a secret. I freaking hate both of those. I won't complain too much, but as a part-time Strongman, you know, it's definitely harder.

Because you don't have the five years experience or whatever of doing all these random things that you would be able to just pick it up and literally know literally pick it up you know in a minute because you've already done you have this you know historical you know experience with all these different implements and stuff so I don't know it should be fun though the whole event is just going to be a blast I'm excited I'm loving that it's going to be in the hotel get a little AC going I can already you know feel how comfortable it's going to be uh all that did you did you make it out to the both previous lift hards just to watch the race in and cheer on the homies? Okay, that's cool. Yep, I've been watching all of you for years.

Somebody's watching you. So what, as far as you had mentioned, so what have you guys added to the home gym specifically for strongman in the last six months? Oh quite a few Sandbags nice lots of sandbags. So a 100 a 132 and a half and a 150 and then a keg Which I decided to fill to 125 because that's what our

That's what our ladies carries are I'd say that's a good good good guess then because we don't know what they are but well It'll at least get you familiar with picking something up in front of you and walking with it well, and then What else the? well the axle bar, of course. And then the handles. Nice. Farmer's carries.

I think that's everything besides all the things that I had to buy that I've never had in my life. So the belt, sleeves, the figure eights, shoes, shoes, wrist straps. Do you get any special squat shoes from anybody? Okay. So. Did those not, they didn't fit her. So if they don't fit you, don't feel bad. Like it was.

Here's the thing. I was like, I've never used squat shoes in my life. And I was really scared to buy any ever because I thought I'm going to hate them. So they're like over $200. I'm like, here's an opportunity to try them. And I was like, that feels really good. You know, immediately when I do a bodyweight squat, I was like, that feels amazing. So I used them a couple times. And I was like, yep, I can buy them now. So then I did go buy the pair that I want after you sent me

a matching pair. Nice. No, thankfully, two squat shoes, not fixed. See what you did there. That took me a second. That was a bow. Well, you've got a very dry sense of humor. That took me a second. I like it. That was a delivery. I can't make took me a second. I like it. That was a good delivery. I can't make a joke without laughing when I do it, so it's like, it was well done.

You good, you got me. Good stuff. Oh yeah, that's a common thing in the host now. Saga had one sock on because the other one got wet. And I said, are you rocking Shaboot? She just yells, Shaboot! At the top of her lungs. You rocking Shaboot? She just yells Shaboot at the top of her lungs. All right. Tell me about some of the fun ways people pronounce your name. There's a lot of Jen Ely. Like as if it were two words. Yeah, that's what I thought it was for just... I think that's what Tanner thinks it is.

That might be because I don't even notice if Sophie. Yeah, then there's like, you'll get Janelle still. You'll get a lot of Jennifer just because they're just look quick and say Jennifer. And then the random like pasta sounding like Janellie. Janellie. Janellie. Janellie. Janellie. Janellie. I get people that are timid and

you get people that you can kind of tell they don't know how to pronounce it. They just say Jen. And just like Paul. Don't finish it. No, because I think people are afraid to use a nickname if they're not sure, you know. So they'll just ask. Yeah. If they're not.

I think that's it. What about Papa Squad? Oh my gosh. That's actually Grayson's mom, Shelly, I think, who came up with that because of the pee outside. I don't remember why or what we were doing, but I probably had to pee and pee outside. You live in a farm. Yeah, right.

All right. You just have to pop a squad outside. We're not judging. No, definitely not. I pee outside a lot. It's the best. You got to make sure you wash your feet when you shower. Little extra care goes to that area. How many, uh, how many animals do you think?

Cause the consensus is you don't actually know. How many animals do you think live on your property? I. Seventy five. If we're if we're counting all the birds, I think because there's five cats, four dogs. Horse. Wow, I see five dogs, 27 cats, 17 dogs, 734 chickens. How many horses?

Just the one horse? One now, yeah. We had two, but now there's just one. What's its name? Lady. Lady? Yeah. She's old.

She's 28, but she was my daughter's heart horse. So you tell lady we love her. We will. Yep. I'll tell her. And what's next goats, donkeys or llamas? I'm done. They're never done. Sure. How many tattoos do you have and are you done? I have no idea. And that's never done. That's never done. But I don't know how many they're all blending together now a little bit. What's your favorite tattoo? The jackalope. You have a jackalope tattoo? Between the jackalope and the Doc Holliday, I guess.

Right? Can you explain what a jackalope is to the people that might not know? I know what Doc Holliday is. I don't know what a jackalope is to the people that might not know? I know a dock holiday, I don't know what a jackalope is. Well, it's a jackrabbit with horns. You've heard of it, right? I'm sure. It's a cryptid.

The two individual things separately, sure, and together? Not that I can think of. We've talked about it on this podcast before. I think we had some crypto was there was some spotted at a certain time I don't know. Look it up Someone saw them kind of like a unicorn. Yeah, so the jackrabbit with deer antlers yeah, something happened along the lines of evolution that along the lines of evolution that a deer had sex with a rabbit. No.

No, because I'm like, that's what I was, that's where my mind went. And I'm like, those aren't, aren't. Not like that. Iced properly to, to, to mate. You don't know that. Don't you kink shame jackalopes? Oh, damn. Oh, good. So archery, you big, you still into that pretty big? Is that something you guys do as a family? Pretty, pretty, good. So archery, you big guy, you still into that pretty big?

Is that something you guys do as a family? Pretty, yeah, I do it. It's fun and the kids like to do it. And my dad had me with a bow in my hand when I was probably five. So it's just something that I've always done. And it's just a really easy hobby to have to just go enjoy. Have you noticed? Do you think you're in the best like with

doing Strongman for the past six months? Whatever? Do you consider yourself in better shape maybe than you were when you were dicking around with other stuff? Or just like, are you strong differently? Because that's kind of how I feel about it. I'm strong differently, Because that's kind of how I feel about it. I think I am strong differently because. I'll find out when I get out there on the mountain and have to hike once we go do this archery challenge that I have coming up next week. OK, let's hear about that, too.

If I'm if I'm. Panting going up the hill, I'll know. I don't know if Strongman has been helping with that. Because you think you've lost some endurance because you're not doing as much. Possibly. Whereas I'm like, I've gained a little bit of endurance because I'm doing more with just the minimal carries and shit with Strongman is more than what I would do with powerlifting. So, but if you're going from a workout of the day to Strongman training, I could see that how

you've maybe lost some endurance potentially. But I don't know. We shall find out. The sandbags are definitely one minute cardio. That's great. It's just nothing, right? It feels like, oh, fucking, it's a lot for a 40-year-old that's only power lifted for

her whole life. It's fucking forever. It's eternity. That's why some of these, I am glad that a lot of the stuff, well, everything in the show is capped with like a 60 to 75 second time limit. So like, that's like, ooh, okay, cool. Cause last year, like just go until you die. I mean, let's, let's.

So this is better. Yeah, this will be a better viewing experience. It's gonna be a better lifter experience in my opinion. So I'm glad that Jake, you you know chose to do that this year So the competition you're doing next week is that actually like are you so it's a Seared on hiking and an archery thing. Oh, yeah it's in the Black Hills at the Terry Peak ski resort, so They kind of go out there and set the targets up all over where, you know, people would

ski in the winter. And some of the hikes are pretty brutal. A lot of elevation. Is that something the whole family's doing or just you and the husband? Or is it like it's a scalable? Just me and him. Yep. Okay.

It'll be just the two of us. Yeah. Nice. Well, that should be fun. Do you still collect pogs or is that a chili that It's been quite some time but yeah, those are those were big so where was that was like early 90s That was a thing. All right. Those were like the little cardboard circles that you like. Yeah I did. I have sure I think I had some but I'd never really I never played the game

I think I just had some no No, no metals. Oh, no metal slammers. Yeah, the slammers thing. That's what I remember I always lost like and people just robbed me. I felt But I can smell that when you say it cuz there was like those scented ones Did you guys have the scented ones? No, I don't remember. That's not great at all. Well, somebody will hopefully know what I'm talking about. I'm not crazy. I'm sure someone listening will bring it up, hopefully.

No, it's just like you can tell when you throw people off, because like people's, like for example, someone's mom might donate or give information like that. And it's just like the way back machine, basically. But it's kind of fun. back machine basically but it's uh you know it's kind of fun. What is your connection to Columbus Ohio in the blue jackets? Okay. How did that happen? So I will put, I don't have two hours to go into detail but when my daughter was born there was something very wrong and I'll say the name of it and I won't go into any more detail and Then I'll tell you what happened. She has something called backdrop

so the doctors of the crew will maybe know I'm talking about her maybe not but um Basically we had like five days to go home and then like you're gonna have to go over to Sioux Falls Which is bigger city in South Dakota with Children's Hospital and'll have to, they'll have to figure out what's going on. And once we got there, they're like, well, this one thing that's wrong with her usually comes with five or six other things. So we're gonna have to test for all that. So we did the very first surgery in Sioux Falls. And then once we started looking up this thing and what was going on and talking to other parents,

we realized that more often than not, the people who were performing the surgery would do it wrong. It's a very specialized, very rare thing. So everybody was saying, you have to go to Columbus, you have to go to this very specific person at this very specific hospital. And this is the guy who knows how to do it. He was at Nationwide Children's in Columbus. So that's what we did. Like, as soon as we left Sioux Falls, we

called and we're like, do you take our insurance? Do you take our patient? And we were like, let's go. So we went there and it was everything everyone said it was. And they pretty much... All of a sudden, we had like five different specialties and this whole team of collaborative care. And now we've been to Columbus about 16 times since then. And she's had five surgeries. She was a mile champion at the Columbus Marathon. And so it's almost like it's just like a second home now. And one of the times we were at the hospital, the Blue Jackets were visiting. And we would usually stay at the Ronald McDonald House across the street.

And the entire place was like themed and decked out for Blue Jackets. And we already like hockey. So now Blue Jackets are our team and we started going to a few games and now that we're done hopefully having surgeries, we started bringing the whole family. And so everybody's kind of got to know Columbus, got to go to some hockey games, see the town, get our way around a little bit.

And it was so funny because when I listened to you talking about trying to walk somewhere, I was like, we didn't do it in the cold, but it's like, I knew exactly. Yeah, so cold. That was a brutal night. No, that was a, I'm sorry. We didn't mean to, I didn't want to have you tell any story and feel comfortable doing that. No, that was a, I'm sorry, we didn't mean to, I didn't wanna have you tell any story you didn't feel comfortable doing, but I think that was a great story.

Oh no, no, it's fine. I put that on there because it's relevant and I have to explain how we got there. Yep. No, so they're like right below in it, so are they like even like, I'm not over the career. They are, yes they are. But I know Columbus has a lot of like that I remember when I was there I felt I feel like they had like I don't know if in hockey it's called triple you know

baseball's triple-a but I don't know what it is in hockey triple-a well shit oh yeah men's league over for whatever the fuck they call it in the hockey show we watch have you been to the Arnold then when you're out there I have not been to the Arnold I don't know is that? I have not been to the Arnold. I don't know. Is that in March, right? Yep. Yeah. I think one year it was in February, but like the tail end. I think that's a really good excuse to go to Columbus in March. See, it's just very likely that we could make that happen is the thing. And so if I ever get so close to finishing that card, then I guess that's what we'll do. We stay at that.

I think it's a Hilton right there. That's connected to that convention center, right? Is that a Hilton? I think there's like four of them connected to the Marathon. So that's like where we were for the marathon. They had the whatever convention in there for the runners. It was the same building. All right. Well, we'd love reliving trauma here on a great underage.

Right. OK, then I want to do a least fun, most fun. I added it and I don't know if Keith saw it. I did, but yeah, have at it. At least fun, most fun, kids and dance. It's just the most fun. Yeah. That's definitely the most fun.

Getting to the end of the season and being able to see everything they've done and perform, watch them perform. And just, you know, and then I'm like, they do so well. And I'm like, that's my kid that, you know, I just want everyone to know that that's mine. And then least fun, you know, we just put a lot of hours into that during the nine months of and that's a half hour from where we live. So we had 14 dance classes this year. So it was a lot of driving, just a lot of driving and sitting in town. And what style of dance did they do? I have one who did Acro, Jazz and Modern. Another one who did Acro, Jazz, Modern and Hip-Hop. And another one who did Modern, Jazz, Hip-Hop, TAP. Wow.

And I think that's it. I might've forgotten something. Keith, have we talked about it before? I did Hip-Hop as a kid. Maybe. Yeah, so I did Hip-Hop dance lessons as a kid so I did hip-hop dance lessons as a kid I didn't even know that it wasn't like a newer genre like I thought that this just started happening like Recently no, we did our resettled to crisscross. Oh

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that was yeah That was not have been kind of old then too because I was Chris Cross was like early 90s Weren't they were mid 90s when they were 40? Here I am thinking that you would have been like a teenage you would have been like like 10 or something Yeah, like I was a I was that that literally tracks the identical time. I just I was Those are the kids that like the that was it just on a CD cover or did they always wear their clothes backwards like that was Was that I I don't know. I don't think I would ever pretend to have the knowledge of the Chris Cross group

My older brothers have the album and I remember being like what the fuck yeah, they had their kid They had the clothes on backwards, but I yeah, I just didn't know if that was just an album cover That was like a lifestyle choice They going to the bathroom must take forever, dude Speaking of going to the bathroom. Yeah, there's a good one Keith loves only talk about pooping in public stories. So pop a squat Tell us anything. Can't be me.

No, okay. Can't, no, I don't know what you're talking about. Give me more context. There were some details, wasn't there? No, somebody said that you have pooped your pants in your adult life. Oh yeah. Feel free to take your druthers and just say pass if you don't want to elaborate. That's entirely. I mean, I mean, I thought having we all. Yeah, it had to be my husband.

It had to be. I can't see who we without going to the other website. I can't tell you much work. But it's OK. I have I have to my pants. But it's not that good of a story because I really just like was out in the backyard and I had a coffee with me and I just couldn't make it. How big is your guys's plot? Because like, I'm more I'm more like it looks like you guys have out. Make a noise. Apparently. No, no, no, no. I'm more efficient.

Like, it looks like you guys have a huge spread out there. So that's why. There's like 13 acres here. OK. So you can see why. I was like, I gotta go. And then I started walking, but. The one time you should have popped a squat.

I should have just popped a squat is what happened. Yeah. You get the sweats. You get the head down. That's closed. The Johnny Knoxville and the in the in the first. It was just done. It was just done.

I was just coming around the corner of the house to this. So close. I almost made it. I you're not alone. I definitely started the squatting a couple of weeks ago, so it happens. It has happened more than a short. You're not alone i definitely started the squatting couple weeks ago so it happens. Is that the more time. I'm surprised i'm surprised nobody's asking me about it like nobody's ever asked us about hours.

I want to get one i don't know that's right we've had you know two hundred thousand episodes it's hard to keep everything straight. And there's always poop. Every episode. And it's one of those things that I don't care about. Like we never talked about it again. I'd be fine. But now it's like on brand. We have to bring it up. Yeah. Yeah.

It's, it's people, the people expect it. Yeah. Uh, one summer, apparently you wore your bathing suit like 24 seven. Well, why? How old was I that's gotta be from your sister then I think that was your mom yeah I mean that's just the 90s for you we could we could do stuff like that and nobody cared right there wasn't anything else to do but run around without shoes in your swimsuit all day long okay want to go to FMK there depends what it is let's hope I can choose yeah I got

just one more before you so okay. So interacting with people in general, is someone submitted that you hate that? I don't know if that was you or one of your loved ones, but is that something you've always, or just as you get older? I'm doing so good. Well, yeah, because it kind of parlayes in with the whole you're going to a aerobic gym now.

So is it that you don't like people, or is it the intimidation side of it? I wouldn't call it intimidation. I don't know. I think it's kind of like what Megan Johnson said for those social anxiety. But I'm self-teaching myself to not be that way. So I'll typically just overcompensate.

Yep. Do you know what I mean? Did you see the real I posted probably like three weeks ago where I said, so I work in customer service, essentially in one of the biggest retailers in North America. And I assure you being nice is not my primary language. I always compare it to like if you ever meet somebody who had to learn English, they speak it better than people that like learned it at the beginning. It's because they follow the rules.

I had to learn to be nice as a second language. And to the point that it's like, I'm, yeah. So most of the time going through my head, I am mean, I am catty, I'm awful, but like I had to learn how to be nice. I had to practice how to be nice to the point that I am so good at it, that I'm one of the top reps in customer service in my company.

And then the moment I leave, it's just a string of swear words. Hood goes up, like just don't talk to me. So yes, generally, I know exactly what you're talking about. I know. I very much empathize and sympathize with that. It's not that I don't like people or want to be mean to them. It's just, it's a little more work. Yeah. To know how to, to know how to not be awkward and do it well. I have to flex those muscles. I have to, I have to, I didn't know how to deadlift. I

had to learn how to deadlift and now I'm really good at it, because it's not something your body wants to do. Well, that's where my brain is. I do not enjoy the company of other humans, so I had to learn how to do that in a nice way. And, you know, I still want the best for people. It's not like I'm out here thinking, like, I hope you die in a fire.

It's just like, I want you to strive and thrive over there. Like go over there and be happy and leave me out of it. If I can help you be happy, I will, but ultimately leave me out of it. And yeah, I do get what you're saying. Indeed. There were a couple more funny stories I just wanted to touch on before we get into some games. Is there something about Tanner's mother-in-law you want to tell us about in a goose? Yeah, we'll see how entertaining it is, but I think I had seen a goose on the side of the road and I was silly. It was so silly. It was looking just the silliest. I took a video of it. I must have put it on my Snapchat or... I think everyone in South Dakota has Snapchat. I'm the only I

think I'm the only person that doesn't have Snapchat in this whole world apparently. I refuse. Okay, all you guys talk about Snapchat. I don't even know what it is. Oh, she must have been down the same road as me. And she replied and said, Oh, I saw that goose too. Well, he looked a little whatever, like, cause he was just mellow and chilling in the ditch. And then I was like, Oh, well he could sure come live at my house, you know, if he wanted to. And then she went and picked him up and brought him over. You're like put your foot in your mouth that time.

We're in my backyard with this goose and all of a sudden it occurred to us that it probably had the bird flu. And I was like, Oh, how stupid am I for not thinking of that sooner? So then I'm like, yeah, maybe he shouldn't stay here. So then she just took him home with her into her field or whatever. Super random, but it was a goose. So I had to bring it up. And also.

I think the biggest thing I took away from that was so Mary's mom. Yeah, I was going to say, Tana's mother and we know Mary. Well, no, no, no. But like, so she's also on that. That what does that app you guys use out there? The the. Now, she's on. So I always thought it was like an age thing. So it's just like so there's one.'s funny um so do you think if you had a

opened a door to a skunk right before you had that uh that bathroom accident you might have made it to the house in time because I hear you're super super fast when there's a skunk now I can't open a nesting box without like just Cracking it and peeking in there because I'm traumatized because I've opened it and there's been a skunk just sitting in there Like it's a chicken looking at me. And yes, I scream and run Like I have not okay, that's lucky. Yeah, that's good You didn't spray me like I have not.

OK, that's lucky. Yeah, that's good. That was frightening. Have there been any like so obviously you have your own animals, but living on the farm in the middle, I'm assuming you're in the fairly country area. Have you had any like I don't want to hear like negative stories, I guess, has it made any like funny, funny wildlife stories, I guess? You know, I had they're always predators, so. It's really just something that's coming and eating the chickens and killing them. That's not really.

And the one that came in like got like 10 in one night. Oh, damn. We finally set up a camera, you know, to see what was doing it. And it ended up being a fox with like three legs and one eye. For him, though. At that point, he deserved it. Right. That's for him though. At that point he deserved it. Right. That's like you're just picking on these weak little chickens because it's all you can find.

What else do you get out there? Coyotes? You can hear them usually. I don't see them. Hawks? There's a lot of raccoons. There's hawks and raccoons and skunks and usually deer. Will raccoons go after chickens or just after the eggs?

Yes. Yes, viciously. Geez. They've done it too. I guess you'll learn a lot about raccoons. I don't think I'd have it in me to be like, oh, I'm going to go out and get my eggs and then I just see a bunch of dead chickens. I think I'd fucking cry and just go be done and be like, oh, I'm going to go out and get my eggs. And I just see a bunch of dead chickens. I think I'd fucking cry and just go like, oh, be done.

Be like, well, not going to have these ever. Do you butcher them or do you have somebody do that for you or do you just. I don't do that. No, I one time I accidentally ended up with like 10 roosters. And we did at that time just once because you can it takes so much work to like, take all the feathers out and do all the things you need to do that just like butchering one chicken is not really worth your time. So you're going to want to do like 10 at least. And I'm just I'm not going to do that. And nobody got time for that.

No. All right. Uh, I think we can move into a little FMK and then rush more and then, uh, unpaid underrated and round this out. So I'm going to teach you with a little FMK. So I'm gonna give you three topics. You know, you do your druthers and you rank them between which one you want to F which one are you going to marry, which one are you going to kill. So someone had submitted, uh submitted the like country music singers. So I took it upon myself to pick three from 90s early 90s

So we're gonna go Tim McGraw Toby Keith Alan Jackson FMK I know right you're welcome That's so hard. That was a good one. Okay. I wanna marry Alan for sure. Because, I mean, you're gonna have a great time. You're gonna be on the chat,

I'm sure you're gonna be doing- Did you say you're having a good time? Yeah, you're gonna have on the chat who gee you're gonna be doing you're having a good time. Yeah, you're gonna have Good time Grapes no, sorry. It's like thundering really loud all of a sudden Then we got Toby and Tim I'm fucking Toby for sure nice and killing Tim yeah I don't know they all kind of well I think Alan's only they didn't like quote-unquote sell out

towards the end I guess or just like completely change like to the point that like it was unrecognizable whereas Toby Toby did a little bit, I guess, and then Tim, I don't know, like, I don't know, I guess it's all your taste if you don't evolve. But like, I love all of Tim and Toby's stuff for like the first five to 10 years in the business. And then whereas Alan probably didn't ever make a bad album. Yeah, I don't feel like Tim's going out as good as he could have and Toby did and Toby's like definitely as good as he once was. So that will be good. That will be a good time.

I don't even think I could name a Tim McGraw song. So we got that going for me. Don't take the girl. Nope. But like, literally like 1992 era is when I was like, you know, first introduced Tim McGraw. And then like, I don't know all the shit he didn't know when I was in high school. Like so mid early 2000s, like, I'm good. Yeah. He peaked.

Yeah. Mount Rushmore. Oh, geez, I got a couple of them. What should I do? The Mount Rushmore of farm animals. Oh, well, I mean, I can just do four. Yeah, let's see here. I've I've got to put the chicken on there, obviously. And then I can do them even if I don't have them? Of course. Okay. So ideally,

I've always wanted a donkey. So I would like to put a donkey on there with the chicken, with a goat. But you can't not have a cat. You have to have your farm cat. So that's what I'm doing. The cat picks up the pests that the chickens don't, right? They're supposed to, yeah. Ideally. Tom Green's got a donkey. He moved up north here in Canada, bought a horse, a donkey, bunch of cats, bunch of chickens and stuff like that. What the heck? I know, Tom Green did it and you didn't?

I didn't even know. I haven't even know I Haven't thought about him in a while. He doesn't have a moose though. No. No, we can't have those up here In Canada you can't domesticate native animals Right, so you can't have like crows and geese and stuff like that as pets. As much as I want crow friends, desperately want the, and there's a raven in my neighborhood. I want them to be my friend. You can't, you can't domesticate them. The best you can do is hope

they like you. Yeah. All right. Another one there, Mount Rushmore. Places to travel to. Well, I'm going to go to Columbus and go to a hockey game. And the Arnold Nudge Nudge Wink Wink. Right. And then I'm going to go to the Black Hills. Oh, goodness. I don't know. We've always talked about going to Hawaii, but I don't know if I can make the flight. I can sit still that long.

Then there was something that my husband sent me on Instagram not too long ago. He said, we'll go here when kids are all growing up and out of the house or whatever. I don't remember what it was, but it was some sort of national park. I'll have to figure out what that was but I forgot. Alright well you pass my question. Thank goodness. There was no way to fail trust me.

Alright well let's hope you don't fail this next one so it's unpaid or underrated anyone tune in for the first time Kind of similar to this other game that we probably created too We just forgot about it so long ago was overrated or underrated but we coined this one unpaid or underrated. So Individual topics you're gonna tell us specifically if you think it's unpaid meaning not so great or if it's underrated. It's pretty awesome So I'm gonna hit you with three or four and Joey will hit you with three or four and we'll round this out so I'm gonna hit you with let's unpaid or underrated lazy high protein meals someone submitted that specifically with with the lazy and bold underrated all right no what are you for a lazy high protein meal?

chicken nuggets hell yeah or frozen meatballs I'm glad you didn't say bagels, that's all I fucking love bagels, what do you have against bagels? I love bagels, I don't bagels are not a protein source, that's all I'm saying I love, Stephanie's been guiding me on these mini bagels

so I can actually like, you know, they're actually I don't feel as gluttonous if I have one because I usually eat it Like with something else and it's just like what carbs? I don't know when you put pizza on a bagel you can have pizza anytime anytime. Yeah, that's true. So anything else Just anything else other than chicken nuggets that category for you chicken sausage already cooked frozen meatballs Yep, those are good

Yeah, I don't know I'm saying I keep thinking of Garrett's like mush meals, but that's not that lazy No, like that does Medical condition That's not that lazy. No, like that does seem to require effort. He literally has a medical condition, like with his mouth and teeth and stuff. So like, we're harboring on the kid, but he like, I'm pretty sure if you go back to the episode, his medical reasons is he does that. He's got no peristalsis or something, he just can't swallow. Because I've been, honestly, I've been considering the just ground beef and rice once a day. You have to cook that too. So that's not lazy.

That's not like, you know, when someone's like, I've got this recipe that's so easy and then they start chopping the onion and you're like, no. Oh, okay. I see. I mean like. It's like, okay. So you're not thinking of like combine a bunch of shit.

It looks terrible, but it's high protein. You're thinking of literally like. I mean you can combine it, yeah. You're thinking of. Are you cooking for a bunch of shit. It looks terrible, but it's high protein. You're thinking of literally buying it. Yeah. Are you are you are you cooking for a party of five every night? Or how's how's your guys' family meal look? And I kind of give everybody what they want separately a little bit. Oh, I'm sorry.

But a lot of the times there's a lot of things that everybody even like say they'll just take everything I've made and eat it a little bit differently usually what will have going like We bought a club-sized lasagna yesterday because my wife had her driving test and we had things to do and we knew we were Gonna eat late. So I was like just go to the store get a frozen lasagna and just bake the shit out of it I ate half of it myself I was in bed by 10 o'clock and oh it was bad. Like I ate half of it and then I lay down and was like I don't feel great.

This morning she goes do you want to take lasagna for your work lunch? I'm like no please no. Like freeze it and give it to me in a month. You want to take lasagna for your work lunch? I'm like, no, please no. Freeze it and give it to me in a month. She's like why and I went I ate half of that. She's like you did not and then she looked at leftovers and was like, oh my God, you did. Yeah, I did. Yeah, I regretted that immediately.

It was delicious though. There's no cottage cheese. It's probably loaded with protein. Yeah, yeah, it was like because it was a meat lasagna. I don't yeah, I'm not buying no vegetables on you. What do I look like? All right unpaid or underrated. This is submitted by Grayson. I believe that the the last hour What do you mean the card game? I love oh my goodness Already and I'm already intrigued because I like card games

So it's it's right up my alley. So tell me all about it. Definitely underrated. Oh, we used to, you know, the four of us, Grace and Hannah, my husband and I, we played a lot of that. We definitely lived a little too easy during those nights.

You have to. I can't imagine that game sober. Like we literally used to play it at the pub. We would have a group of 10 or 12 of us playing that game. There's just, with Grayson and Hannah, there's never like just a little bit. Like we're like, it's 2 a.m. no matter what or something. And then we're like, let's go out and see who can climb the rope.

Let's go and see who can do who can do a pull up. Like it's just this. There was a lot of late nights playing with you, me and we were so loud and laughed so hard, it was amazing. I have to get that back out. So that game, I'm going to buy that. I think that game, Keith, if I remember correctly, they would have just a meme and you would lay the meme down and then you would have cards that have captions

and you would lay down the caption to that meme. And generally the most offensive would win because it would make everybody laugh. Oh, so is it voted on? Because that sounds very subjective. There's a judge for each round. Kind of like apples and oranges if you've done that. Only just way more inappropriate. Oh, absolutely.

Yeah, absolutely. I will take a very brief segue. I know it is your episode, but you mentioned Big Hannah, past guests, obviously your nephew's partner. How's her meat prep going? And is she still competing and power lifting? I think she's still competing. I'm pretty sure. She must just be keeping it on the secret.

She's not letting anybody know her weights. She's Yeah, I She's not posting she's not talking right like I got our attention one day. Well, I Should just text her like I said Fucking love Hannah and Grayson. No, they're great people. Um Were you at the table when the oh spicy guacamole was a thing or is that that was with her parents or something? I think wasn't I wasn't I missed that whole thing. He ate it as if it was he ate wasabi as if it was guacamole Yeah, 100% Yeah

On our podcast here it was breaking news. It was a funniest damn thing. We've ever it was one of the first like It was breaking news and it was the funniest damn thing we've ever it was one of the first like On sushi who sees guacamole and is like guacamole and is like, you know what? Mm-hmm raw salmon. Let's hook that up That's good stuff. All right, my last one I'll hit you with unpaid or underrated your husband's burps Oh my god I'm so glad that that was added just because I'm it's like going to ramp till I feel so bad but like they never ever end ever ever never and then I just pretend not to hear them anymore because just after that indigestion, you know. Give them some Tums.

So is that unpaid or underrated then? That is so unpaid. Yeah, my wife is there. She said during our last kid, every burp just filled the whole house with awful smells. And now she's just like, you just burped. That's what you do. That's just your life now. It's a dad thing.

Like you just, you get to a certain age as a dad, as a man or whatever. And just like, like. Do you get it to like- These are just so loud. So Stephanie would go to bed or whatever and just be like, hey, or leave the room or whatever it is. And like, hey, give me a hug.

So I'm on the couch. I know I said to stand up and I give her a hug and within like within like 11 seconds of standing up I'm burping like Yeah, it's it's face adjacent it's not Saturday. It's a face. Oh, Jesus. Oh, my God, Keith. She will never listen to this. So it's a little more distance, a little more space, a little more. Yeah, I got the secret of blowing them out. Like if she sees me do one of these.

I think she knows what happened. Try to get it to dissipate before she comes over for a kiss. Right. Like, sorry, but. But it's it to dissipate before she comes over for a kiss right? Like sorry, babe. But it's just as bad on the other end, so. I guess we can eliminate that one. We already got to that one. All right. Unpaid or underrated cardio?

Oh, gosh. Well, unpaid because... It sucks. I mean, yeah. I'm gonna... It sucks. I mean, yeah. When you see me competing, you're going to see regret. Just kidding. Nothing but regret.

Yeah. So I'm saying I should start doing some of this so that I can do this Sandbag event and do this Cary event and then I'm'm just gonna be like out there just absolutely dying Well, it is what it is now Getting too close To close to add it in at this point. Just look faster. That's what I say. There's time to stack one more Hey in that barn Get on that rower now do the amrap over the bar. That's cardio

That's awful and wraps and sandal bag over the bar. I do that once a week. It fuckens. Honestly, like there's like, I really think like a couple of hard training sessions will be more difficult than like the entire show. Like I've, like if you, if you do like, I don't know, I'm assuming, you know, if Jake has like a strong man or an event day, like, and you have like three or four like pretty intense movements, like that's not going to be that far off of what you're doing. It's just always going to be, you know, it's until you get towards the end, you're not going to be hitting

the weights that are as close. But I mean, it's, I've done, you know, as everyone likes to give me hell for I've done a handful of strongman shows and I've had some handful of novice strongman shows. Yeah. And I've had harder, I've had harder event days than I have had some show days. So it's not always like that, but like, it's, you know, I don't know. And this will be my first ever. So you're gonna have fun.

You're gonna kill it. And to not do all those things in one day until now, I don't know, the fricking bag over Barbie in the last event is pretty scary. Isn't it? bar being the last event is pretty scary. Oh, I mean, isn't it? Is it the last? It's not. Is it stone over bar or bag over bar?

It's bag over bar. And that's that's one thing, too. Better not be any stones there. If I haven't touched one. If you catch the bug and want to do other Strongman shows, too, just be careful that it's not always the way it's listed to like in this event. In this show we're doing, it should be. But in like, I've done I've done other

shows where they're running multiple classes at the same time. And it's basically like the open classes get to do it in the order that it's on like the website. But if you're novice or senior masters or something or like juniors, like you kind of just get the shaft and go okay, well, the the open class gets the priority and you're going to do whatever they're not doing. Because they're running multiple judges at the same time. But I don't see Jake having more than two sets of judges.

So that shouldn't be an issue with this one. So it should go in the cadence that it's on the list, which was, I want to say it's Axle and then deadlift, carry, and then bag of a bar. Yeah. So if you don't have any sessions where you're doing at least three of those, if not all four, at least like once, like maybe it'd be like, Jake, I'm going to do this one day just to push myself. And then, but like, obviously do it at like 85% or 80%.

But if it's something you're nervous about, I'm saying it because it sounds like you might benefit from the actual prep day of doing all the events, but just don't do them at like, you know, Mac comp weight because then that would just be doing the show. Don't worry, I won't. Although, like play with the the stones at Mastanomics Gym for sure. Don't like, can we just not use the stone? Learn how to use them. Like, do the stones after the after the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they're very rewarding.

It's so much fun. The first time you do one and you've never done one before and you're like, it's like this thing where you do it and you put it up there and you kind of have this like flashback of every strong man in the world is like egging you on because they all do them. Like, it's definitely worth at least trying it. And like I said, after the first Live Hard, Live Easy, we all showed up to storm the gym. And that's when Megan came in.

And then I was like, Megan, I know you're here for a workout, but can you show us how to do stones, please? And this poor lady had to show us all how to do stones for the first time. And that was the first time I ever did stones. And the second time I ever did was the next year at the Mastronomics gym. So it is there. There's no one better to show you. And she, she's amazing.

What she did, she brought out confidence in me. Yep. I just want to say that because that she is really, really good coach, big fan of Megan Stone, love her. I just want to say that because that she is really, really good coach. That big fan of Megan Stone lover. And it's so funny. One day this is separate, but I, I didn't really know all of the stuff about Jake and changing weights. I wasn't in on that joke at all.

And I said to Tanner, I was like, did you know that he raised, you know, I was complaining about the deadlift, the women's was raised from 300 to 315. I was like, did you know you raised that to 315? And he just laughed, laughed and laughed. He's like, so it's kind of a thing. It's kind of a thing that Jake does. And I had no idea at the time and there I am complaining about it. That is the negative.

Yeah, that's brutal. You'll do fine. Strong enough for you're just going to not get it. Whereas powerlifting is like, I will take 50 pounds, sir. You'll do fine. Don't worry about it. It's this thing, right? You get in your own head and you talk yourself out of it.

And that's silly. You will kill it. It'll be fun. You signed up for a reason. So just follow through. Have a good time. It will be fun. Yep. It's the best meet ever. I know it will kill it. It'll be fun. You signed up for a reason, so just follow through. It will be fun. Yep, it's the best meet ever.

I know it will be fun. Just make sure you do all the extra curricular stuff come out Thursday. I mean, as much as you can, obviously with all the kids and stuff, but at least Tanner's Friday and then obviously the show and everything Saturday. But Thursday night there's a gathering as well. Unpaid or underrated fancy coffee drinks. Oh, no. Unpaid.

You don't like a little sweetener in your ice coffee or? No, just the coffee. Just the coffee. That's all we need. What's your favorite coffee place? Um. I really like to go to Ziggy's. I don't know if you will know what that is or how far and wide that goes. Negative.

But they just have good coffee. Just good straight up coffee. I think so. I get cold Bruce most of the time. Even in winter? Yes. All winter, all summer. Gotta have that full two to three hundred milligrams. A lot of caffeine. And energy drink after that. Wow, yeah, that was my follow-up was, damn,

that's so you're... You know, I have black coffee in the morning that's hot and then in the afternoon I have a cold brew and energy drink, but I don't finish them both Because that's like you just described eating like 600 milligrams of caffeine No, I'll put my energy drink back in the fridge and finish it the next day You know often I find a monster in the basement like in one of the drink spotters. It's still got like a third left I'm like, okay, I guess I'll, I'll finish this one today. Yeah. I just forget that I didn't finish it. And I got so many fucking drink spotters. It's not like I'm like, I guess I'll find it next training session in like three days. What's your favorite energy

drink? I do ghost usually. Yeah, buddy, me too. Yeah. What?. Yeah. Okay how do you feel about them losing the candy flavors? Which were those? So they're gonna lose pretty much anything that's based on candy. So they're gonna lose the red sourpuss or sour patch kids. They're gonna lose lose all of the Sour Patch Kids. I did not know that. Yeah, so apparently they got bought by Dr. Pepper. And Modela, who owns all of the flavors, withdrew because of that contract. So now they're called something different, and they're trying to recreate them.

Now, I recently tried the iced tea lemonade one, and it was amazing. I still can't find that. Oh, and I got it up on Canada. Interesting. And Grayson got one. Yep. I know it was pretty amazing. I'll, I'll definitely do that one again, but yeah, they're going to lose all of those. I really like red berry.

I don't know if that's the Sour Patch Kids one or not, but it was So hopefully they're still going so stock up while you can Straw Bingo is really good right now. It really is it really is. Yeah, I'm a huge ghost I love the the kind of the kind of pure creatine that they put in it and Yeah, I'm a big ghost guy when I can get it. Oh Good work. Last one. Unpaid or underrated.

Polly Pocket. Underrated. Keith doesn't know what it is, he says. Really? I wish I had one in front of me right now that I could show you. We had our- I mean, not that you should. Yeah, there was no, because Polly had the the boys version which was okay which was

the max mini max. I don't know I know I didn't have the boy one. Sugar, so I'll look it up. I had a lot of little ones and then I had the big like house that the drawers slid out of and. Yeah I'm looking at it it doesn't I mean I it. I don't I don't remember seeing it much I don't I didn't have any like they're like as tiny as they could possibly be. Yep They were little clamshell toys is the best way to describe that. Yeah, you would open it up and have a whole world to discover

No, you never had those Keith no Mighty max Mighty max hold on. Let me let me No, you never had those Keith? No. What were the? Mighty Max. Mighty Max. Hold on. Let me. That's the boy Polly Pocket. Yeah, I'll loogal it. I was just trying to think of like.

Yeah, Mighty Max. Animated series, toys, everything. Yep. Adjacent to the like so like 90s kids toys. What was the. Yes. What were the miniature matchbox cars that were like super, super small and like the micro something?

The really intense Infomers. Yeah, maybe. It just had like, it had the same guy that did all like, you know, the he's been dead now for years, but like the big like fight announcer or whatever, or like the big, you know, he was the one like just screaming, talking really fast on the ad. Like I remember the ad more than I ever remember the toy. But the only reason I bring it up is because it was like, you know, micro versus, you know, so.

So how many Polly pockets do you think you have? I probably had five and then the big, big house. Yeah. It wasn't too crazy. And then when my kids were little, they tried to come out with like Polly pockets that were not that small. They were like regular size. And that was really, really lame.

I think McDonald's is called Polly's like not just. They were just yeah, they were like this big instead of this big. Oh, they were they were choking hazards for sure. Oh, yeah. And we didn't give a shit. Yeah, that'd be why the choking hazard because like, why would they rebrand them the guy out for to not kill kids? How dare they No, I think you passed I'm paid underrated good work

Yeah, it's a good one Well, I think now we can open it up to you. Do you have anything for us? Oh Oh geez in the script Got the clearing of the night. I have anything for us? Oh, oh jeez in the script I was just gonna ask keep why orange I think of basically The school that I would have went to and like my my brother's schools that it was black and orange is like the theme color So like like, you know, from from five years to from five years old to 12 years old, like that was going to be like, my life and my high school and everything. So and like my, you know, watching my brother's sports teams. So orange was always just there. And then Cleveland Browns have a orange in their color.

That's that's my football team. So it's just, you know, I don't know that I, I didn't like do anything with orange from like the time I was probably 15. Cause I moved when I was 12. So then like orange kind of got put away as I like had my own like, you know, schools, school, school mascots and colors to cheer for. And then I guess when I did the gym and like 15, so yeah, there was probably a literal decade of like orange wasn't a thing in my life. And then I was like, well, I got to have something to my gym and like, you know, come up with a logo and shit. Once I kind of started having friends come over and like thought I needed to get like a brand of some sort, if you will. So the orange came out of the the woodwork,

I guess, and just kind of you go back to what you know, and what you're comfortable with as a kid. Yeah, it's like one orange thing and then everything. And then it's just, you know, it's, I like, or yeah, I like things to be coordinated to the best they can be. So like, rather than being like, Oh, a little bit of red, a little bit of green, a little bit of purple, just that I'm going to add accent colors. It's going to be orange. I love orange and you know, we have orange and ours too.

Yeah. You got two of our racks. So okay. I love orange and you know, we have orange in ours, too. Yeah, you get a bar back. So you're just good stuff. OK, so then. Joey, you're really not coming to the left, our live easy. Disappointing, I know. I'm sorry. Oh, me too. I definitely want to. I would just turn off your everything at that time.

No, the phone will be busy being fucking keys here. Yes, I'm going to be. I would just turn off your everything at that time Yes, I'm gonna He's gonna reshare all my stuff the running joke so good is it's gonna be thank you That's when content Keith comes out and I'm content Keith and now that he's in on the joke hopefully doesn't go and delete all my shit He'll be too busy I can take one or two antagonizing jabs, but when it's like eight in a row is like All I did was put your face on every picture you posted. No, no. I mean, financially, I'm not in the position I was for the past two years.

So, you know, a $3,000 trip across the continent isn't really laid out for me. Yep. Even, you know, some people did reach out and offer, can we give you air miles? Can we help you with the flights? Can we? And it's just like, no, right? Like it, it doesn't line up. And also there's a possibility I'm going to have a new job by then.

So I can't like, which hopefully doesn't get to my boss right now. But yeah, it just, it isn't going gonna line up and I'm gonna miss it. And yeah, the FOMO is real. Because I've been to the first two, but like you can't go to every single one of them when you live across the Contra. Like you can't. You can't.

You can't. The Arnold I'm more likely to go to because it's a quick drive, but you know, once you invest that much time and money in something, a couple years in a row, you've got to at some point go, it's going red more than black. So. Mm-hmm.

Especially with your kids getting older, you're going to want to start doing more families. They're old enough now to remember everything and shit. Or at least they will be. So it's like, that couple thousand dollars could be a lot more you know yeah I get it it's not though I can't say it's the last time I'll go like I'm not very not gonna be there again but this one I have to miss fingers crossed it's I think I was talking to Tanner a while ago he's like

you know they did the Strongman show for three years and they quit and now they're gonna do the powerlifting slash, you know, the lift hard will be in its third year, and we'll see if there's a fourth year. I mean, fingers crossed. I mean, I wanted to be here forever, but as long as it's still something, you know, and they set themselves up for success.

The fact that Dave runs the powerlifting meet and Jake runs the Strongman show, they just do everything else, and like, that takes like, I don't know, 35% of the headache away from them, maybe 50% of the headache, of what they would be if they had to run it all and actually host the meet themselves and anything and like coordinate all that. Like, I don't want to put, I mean, those, if those numbers are wrong, feel free to,

you know, interpret however you want, but like it's significantly less than if they were running it, like bootstrapping it all by themselves. So I think, so all that would take is like Jake to move away or Dave to move away and the meat might fall apart. So that's kind of why I'm like, I'm going to go until I can't go to move away or Dave to move away in the meat fight might fall apart. So that's kind of why I'm like, I'm gonna go until I can't go basically. I'm gonna try to at least. But you know, maybe, I don't know, maybe crew falls or have to go away or maybe I won't

do a lift hard and I'll go to crew falls or something. But yeah, I get it's expensive. Lucky that you get to like do this and spend the dollar in gas. It's gonna take you to get there when everyone you see that flew in spent a Thousand three thousand dollars for the weekend. Yeah lights up lights alone or a thousand add everything else. So like yeah, I Want to be there. I just can't yeah. Here's what I really want to know since it's of the crew I

Want to know what data is on how old everyone is. And I don't mean how old, I mean what is the ages? What is the mean, median, mode? What like what? I feel like in there like everything is usually pretty relatable or like you know there's not a bunch of people in there who can't relate. I feel like everybody in there is like my age and I'm like how'd that happen and how did I find this community that I never knew about but like how old is everyone in the crew? I would say go ahead go ahead 32 to 45 was like 75 percent of them. Yeah, there's the outlier. There's a lot of 20 year old like there's a lot of 20 to There's a lot of people under 30, but I think I would say the mean median motorboat would be probably around 32

Like if you had to like get in that sweet spot of the middle Right cuz like you know you can't include scants He's on the other end. You know, you can't include Garrett not Garrett who's there's there's a kid that's been in my house. He's like 20 Like those are outliers. I would say it's probably 32 to 40, but that's because massonomics is a kind of this home gym. We have extra money. We've all done what we're doing. And I think that that kind of lends to bring in that older crowd that have the home gyms. They have the extra money to buy shorts, to buy drops, to buy that kind of thing.

Yeah, it's definitely between 32 and 40. I think that's a very good call. I was 35 when I started listening, I think. Yeah, it's just super interesting. It is, and you know, when you look at, you know, young kids care about things, they care about politics, they care about the things that we don't talk about, we're not really attractive to them. I gotta say that, right? Like, they want to talk about those things. And those people come into the crew and they try, and we don't do it,

and it's likely that they kind of back out a bit. So I do think that that is a bit of a barrier of entry, but one that I am absolutely willing to uphold at all. Because I know when I was 35, I was a fucking nightmare. And then, you know, 37 and on, I was like, I don't want to do this anymore. This is exhausting. So I would argue it's closer to our age 40. Yeah. Well, I think it helps too because Tanner Like Tanner's what I want to Tanner's like 37 and Tommy's 35 something along those lines Like I know Tanner's a couple years younger than me and I know Tommy's a couple years younger than Tanner if I'm not mistaken. So it would make sense that

The you know, the listeners would be within a five-year span left or right of that kind of thing plus or minus that is but yeah I think the running joke used to be we were all sub masters and now the people used to make that joke we're all fucking turning masters yeah literally like I've you know we've all firsthand seen like dozens of us either almost be 40 or hit 40 I'd be interested I think there is a good chance to like study that like dozens of us either almost be 40 or hit 40. I'd be interested. I think there is a good chance to like study that demographic. Yeah, that's what I want. I really want to know. I want the actual details.

Yeah, I do think the demographic leans towards Jesus, we don't get political, but like white, largely male, higher income bracket, older age, like I think all of those line up to the Masonomic supporters. It's fair. Yeah. That's what we see. I didn't expect to jump in there and realize that everybody was kind of like close in age to myself. I didn't expect that. Well, that's good too, right?

Like it's like it's it's just literally like it's the people you went to high school with that you actually want to hang out with. Yeah, there's no broccoli heads in here. It's not the people you go to high school with and you fade it out It's like people like it's it's like people that you should be friends with that He actually have these common things in common these things in common You know across the country and then we literally like, you know meet up and hang out Great community that they've helped us, you know They gave us the platform to build because I feel that like we've, I mean, not to like, like the crew has built the crew, like they created this cord, but if it literally wasn't for us, it wouldn't have like, it's, it's, it's gone from like the 50 people that

was the first six months or three months or whatever to literally 600 people. Granted, I still only correspond with like a hundred of those people because it's just, it's so hard to like get involved with the newer crew. Like it's not that I'm not, it's not that I'm like shunning them. It's just like, if you hard to get involved with the newer crew. It's not that I'm shunning them. It's just like, if you're not interacting with me on Instagram, I can't keep up with half the shit on the Discord, so I don't know who you are. Let us talk to me.

Why would I get to know everybody? But it's hard. We only have so many, I can only respond to so many, you can only talk to so many people and respond to so many stories and make these new interactions. So I'm not gonna say I'm afraid, but like, if crew gets so big that like, if you don't, if you know less than like a third of them or something, like then it's, I don't know, like I'm afraid, I'm not afraid of that happening. It's just like that would, I guess it would make more work for everybody to like, and then continue to like have that feeling I had like, you know, up

until now basically, and then hopefully continue on where like you kind of feel like you do know everyone. Whereas like you, you're probably you're probably overwhelmed. You came in and you're in this five person discord and you're like, I know, like, trying to keep track. I'm having a really hard time between your discord name, your Instagram name, your real name. And but it's still very cool that all of a sudden they have all of these internet friends that I didn't before and support and when I signed up I decided I wasn't gonna just sign up and not be a part of that you know and I did lose a lot of sleep for a long time but hopefully it's gonna be okay. Of course it's gonna be okay. You're hanging out with the crew.

Like, yeah, at the Let's Hardly Live Easy last year, I did so much underweight that I could have done and nobody questioned it, right? Like it was just one of those, that's not what we're here for, right? If you think you're showing up and your goal is to crush crush other crew you're probably not welcome to be honest right like at that point we're just like mmm okay bro right like thank you for showing up but and not having fun and only showing up for the sole purpose of putting your name on the board yeah right like I don't think that person is welcome the person that's coming in and you like I'm just here to lift some weight and have some fun is

Going to be the most welcome person and that's the person that's going to love this meat And if honestly generally if that's what you're here for which I think you are 100% absolutely I think what Tanner said in the not last week, but the one before, I think he said, people are gonna judge you on like, did you try hard?

Did you have fun? That was really good. Were you pain in my ass in the warm up or whatever? Yeah, all that. I was just like, I appreciated all of that because no one's judging you on anything else. You could show up and zero out, but still be involved in the crew. And nobody would remember you zeroing out. Nobody would remember that part of the meat.

That's good. The hardest part of your day is going to be what time should I show up? Because like you want to be there and support your strong man. Right. But you also don't want to be there for fucking nine hours before. I don't know how I can avoid that. So you almost like come for a couple of hours, go have lunch, hang out. Like, I don't know. Like, I don't know how far you live from there, too Because if it's like a shitty commute, then it's not really worth it to go home and back But you can always do a pop and go back home

And then I don't know I just don't don't come back don't start to meet exhausted basically And then they're starting at eight this year not nine. Hopefully they Right, they're supposed to move it up last year too and didn't so hopefully okay Hopefully they, they were supposed to move it up last year too and didn't, so hopefully they stick to it. Cause I don't want to be like, as being in the group that competes second and fucking having everything keep getting pushed back, I was like, oh God, I just want to go, I want to go.

But I'm optimistic it'll be a good time. But yeah, that's just something you can maybe talk to Jake with or, you know, Megan, and just kind of get some pointers of specifically how you should handle that. But if you think you'd be cool, just be in there all day. Like you don't want to get so overwhelmed that it's like, Oh, I literally don't get to compete for nine more hours.

And it won't be as hot as the OD. Trust me. Right. That's true. Jesus. I'm just somebody who was not lifting and just sitting there watching. I can't even imagine. Those next time I would feel like I put out those neck fans last year and everybody bought them and they were there was so many people with neck fans.

Mine's broken now but like oh my gosh yeah I'll have to replace it this year definitely worth it. All right well this has been a blast. Do you have anything else or we can uh we can round it out now? We could talk for hours but I don't want to. Um, we are at that, that time we usually start bringing it in for a landing. But if you got anything else you want to hit us with, I can go on vacation. So I, I gotta go. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Keith.

Hold on. Can I get the, can I get the balloons back? No, it's a good time. I'm hoping I know right party. I'm excited. I Am excited Well, I won't be able to make it but I will be lifting in your honor brother. Yeah, there's gonna be a whole contingent out in California don't want it to it sounds like Just randomly had like a crew meet up on my birthday. So that'll be fun because I'm good pictures across the board I'm hoping to get I'm hoping a good crew turnout,

at least all the locals. And I think there was, there was a kid driving in from Massachusetts, which is crazy. Cause it's like a six hour commute. So that's pretty awesome. So hopefully that works out. You know, just have a good time. I thought I was getting sick today and I was so,

Stephanie's been telling me this too. Like she said, she saw an article or something once that like, if you're so stressed out and then you finally do take a vacation day that you're almost like always sick right off the bat just because your body's like nervous, something to do with your nervous system or your immune system or something. And it seems like the last two times I've had like a significant amount of time off, I got sick as shit. So I'm hoping that this was just some allergies because I'm feeling fine now, but I definitely

had like waves throughout the day where I was am I getting a cold is this Is this a is this a back of the throat tickle or am I just like got a you know? I have I have a thing and I have a secret to that. Yeah nap Yeah It also I think I got two and a half hours of sleep last night Yeah Every day turned the air conditioner off in the middle of the night and I woke up sweating.

Morgan pointed this out. Anytime I've ever had vacation, I leave work on the last day and I come home and I fucking pass out. And that's like a transition, like, I'm gonna be off for a couple days, I need to shut it down and nap. And that's always been how I get over that stress. Makes sense. Hit him with some affiliates there. Yeah, so hopefully these hopefully these are all things that Jenna Lee has in her garage, Jim. Her shed building, Jim, I think it is. The Roost.

Yeah, the Roost. It's a good name. Obsidian Ammonia for all your ammonia needs. Barbell rescue for all those dirty shaft knees. Plate snacks for all of your needing some stickers. I'm very curious to see what Jake's gonna do with all those plate snack home gym stickers that literal dozens of crew have sent in. Like I see my affiliate thing go off every now and then,

so I know at least some of you are using it over there at plate snacks home gym con. That's literally two weeks from now and then. So I know at least some of you are using it over there at Plates Next. Home Gym Con, that's literally two weeks from now I think. So if you're literally within a couple hour drive of Louisville and you know what a gym is, go to come hang out with us at Home Gym Con. Tanner will be there with Big Mini on the camera and at least a dozen crew I think know have confirmed they're going to be there. One of them being Belt Fed Strength, Big Chris and Big Randy over there. We have a little code with them. If you use Unpaid there and your crew, they'll hook you up with a few percent off and help you out.

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je n n i l e e dot p h i l l i p s Love it. Love it big joy. Where you at buddy joey underscore molezco. I'm le cz ko Uh, that's it just instagram Perfect. Uh, we have instagram unpaid underrated podcast website unpaid in her and podcast.com go raise somebody for the first comment Carp did not win this past week. I can't remember off the top of my head who it was, but I saw you I see you in there I'm Keith honey cut 73 go follow me on Instagram and more important to check out my orange Jim than a wine seller until then We'll see you next Tuesday

Will you say your name for me so I don't butcher it? I was going to make you try and say it first. Yeah, I know. Let's do that in the. So like, yeah, yeah, let's do that. OK, in the podcast. Yeah. Generally. No, you ruined it.

No. I wanted to do it like we both try and say it. Oh, OK. Yeah. What did you think it was, own. Oh, okay. Yeah. What did you think it was, Keith? Well, for the longest time, I thought it was just Jenna Lee. The common name that I knew multiple people having, Jenna Lee. I guess that's very close, but yours is more...

There's almost still two words of Jenna and then like a hardly or am I off hardly? How hardly am I? Do I hardly have it right? Hardly working. I feel like you said it exactly right. Yeah, generally. That's what I've always said it as.

I don't know. I remember the one time it was really threw him off because when Tanner said it, he almost had like a paw like he's like Lee yeah I don't correct anyone so if he are you big are you a big big big Anthony over here just not correcting people exactly you guys are too nice that's you don't correct people to literally call you the wrong name your whole life Hong Kong