Unpaid And Underrated - 117 : Who’s My Favorite Murderer?

Episode Date: August 5, 2025

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Brandon. They dive right into great topics like: stickers, blanks, stepping on appendages, short queens, and Metal Gear. Links Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @odoylebasementlifts (https://www.instagram.com/odoyle_basement_lifts/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Brandon.

Underwear. He probably saw that. That's my dick. Wait, I didn't see anything, Keith. That's good. I was like, I had shorts on and I was like, I'm going to go into the covers. I'm going to fucking not wear underwear. They're not wearing shorts.

I am having underwear on some shorts. How's my audio sound? Because I said like a like a U.S. It sounds good. Yeah, it sounds good. Yeah, you're good. We can hear you. Didn't ask you.

I don't care about your opinion. Just do. don't be so mean to me don't bully me I'll come it's the first time we've talked to this is the first time we've been on a podcast together in three weeks it's been so long as we've gone about the podcasting

I almost forgot how that's why I had to run away I was like I don't have my candle I don't have my light I don't have anything I fucking hate this light I'll be up front with you I hate this circle light I think I'm gonna hop my phone now because this keeps just cutting out it's fucking annoying

I can't I can't fix the Wi-Fi so just get on my data I'm going to close out of here and just log back in before we get rolling give me like 90 seconds or less I can't control the goddamn hotel Wi-Fi it'll be less than that

I just want to not have multiple We are on a tight schedule Yeah those 12 hour you know shifts at the firehouse whatever you know just full it down full of busy time 24 hours 24 yeah that those two

You know we got we're too busy playing Xbox and watching TV and stuff. I like playing video games and podcasts and it's like consuming podcasts while video gaming. That's probably a pretty good idea. Oh, the man, I wonder if that's an option on like PlayStation. Can I run podcasts while I, no.

That sounds hard. I'm also one of those guys though. Like I'm not. I can't even do like I can do like 1.25 speed, but anything more than that, it just loses me. I don't know. Just because the voices sound distorted I think that's probably what it is The worst is when you

You listen at 1.25 or 1.5 And then you meet Tanner and Tommy And you're like, you talk You talk too slow I need this to go faster How do I switch Docs to dark mode? This is way too bright

This file Is it on your phone or are you on the laptop? It's on the laptop I don't know that answer That's a Nate question Nate's never around Every time I need Nate He's just never there

He's perpetually there By text No other way Just blame Gary I still don't make up met him I still think last week was just a blur Blur blur blur blur Oh this isn't the episode

I thought you introed why I was reconfiguring phones I would do that to you in most scenarios But this time decided not to Okay Here I, well, Nate's got a hot. Nick's always got the hot bike, so who knows what'll make it. Take off my socks.

Free pigies. Oh, cock. Welcome everybody to episode 39 of unpaid and underrated podcast. A podcast for crew, by crew, mocked by crew, and celebrated, actually, by some crew from what I understand it was happening at the Liptard-Live-Easy. I am Joey. I haven't been here in weeks. You have heard my voice because of release dates,

but I have not recorded for three weeks. So, if I'm Rusty, fuck you. I'm joined by, uh, as, as regular. I'm, I'm big, big, big Rusty here. Big Rusty over here. Um, as his name tag would have said at the Lipt-Live-Easy, he is the host of, uh, unpaid and underrated. singular

fuck you there's only so many characters I at least don't say host on all my other stuff I did I did call you

oh good on that one but I thought I had to bring that one up and uh is that Brandon that's it

big Brandon Brandon bring Brandon Doyle welcome welcome welcome two weeks in a row for you uh

no I think it was three weeks ago right was that right it's been a minute yeah

I don't have to look at the spreadsheet I think it may have released three episodes ago Yeah because we we leap for Yeah because it would have been It would have been home gym con Justin Then lift hard live easy

So then now So I guess two in reality But three and I don't fucking know Time is a flat circle Isn't it Yeah it's all blurry Yeah right So anybody wearing anything cool

I have my ouch Everything hurts Because I'm old And everything hurts I got the Bardot-O-Ly T-shirt from the basement Brandon. Crew. I got the Massenomics skull gym tea. Then this one's in the red, so not wine or purple or whatever.

That looks hala pink. It is. I think it's also a little bit to do with this like really old school basement lighting down here. But it's been washed several times. And I think that my washing machine is probably from 1993 because I just keep going to glue parts back together and I refuse to buy a new one. So it probably is a little harsher on it than it could be.

It was brick, now it's salmon. That's right. I kind of like the comfort colors, how they wear down. Like they just end up looking cooler as time goes on. So it's not bad. I actually, I went to a concert um, geez, I think we were recorded after my big

concert stretch right before I went to Wu Tang or right after. And the band, Amigo the Devil, their shirts were on comfort colors. Oh, that's awesome. Right? So I was like, I was going to order my normal size.

And then I was like, can I just see that for a second? And I saw the tag. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. Size down. Yeah. Size down. Yep. Yeah, I'm the exact same way.

I like seeing that now. Like, I think it was actually ordering from basement brandon. Like, he puts a lot of his stuff on comfort colors now. And it's just nice just to know, like you're not going to have to send this back or not have to worry about it. It fits weird because things fit me completely. different. Some Masonomics shirts do that, too.

Like, you know, border one. They're all the same blames. They're all the same blames. I know they are, but like, it's literally just like, it's the origin of manufacturer a lot of the times too and whatnot. But I, the, the crew exclusive

shirts that they released at Lipsart Live Easy, I swear that is like slightly thinner than all the other comfort colors I have. So it's, to me, it's the perfect shirt. Like, I don't know. Like, it's got a little bit extra length, but not obnoxious amount. get that it's quote unquote the same blank and it really is on paper but like they all all the quote unquote same blanks fit 10% different i swear to god um and this one for me and my body type

whatever like i just i love how that shirt fits i wore like three out of like six days my wife was like are you ever going to wash this thing i was like yeah when i get it's not that stinky yet which is for me i like i don't wear stinky shirts but i just didn't want to wash it it's so comfortable i don't have mine yet scantz has mine and he's uh he's shipping that to me Nice. Mine's supposed to come tomorrow, and I'm out of town. I also understand that Big Gary, who is not here, he's not here, yet, he will be here. Also sent me a silly pint.

So, yeah, yeah, he handed his cats and said. He hooked me up with these shorts. I got the silly goose shorts. I was afraid they were going to run out. I really wanted those, but I cannot justify more shorts. like I have so many shorts. It's all I wear, winter, summer, fall, spring, anything in between, Smarch.

But yeah, I just couldn't justify another pair of shorts. I'm sure I'm going to regret that. I'm just, I'm super happy that I have two, two extra large meat shirts because fuck that guy in his email. And that like, I forgot his name already. Yeah, is it? Oh, I have to go back. I can reference it.

Mock. It's Mock. It's not wrong. Yeah, I know the last name was Mock when I can't think what his first name was. Randy, it's always Randy. Something fucking douchey.

But yeah, it makes me chuck over to think of that. Like, fuck that guy. I got two of his shirts. It's Chris. Not Chris. No. All right.

I had to, like, show it to my wife. She's like, what a fucking douche bag. Yes. We're not big name over here. I don't have anything cool to drink. What do you guys got? So I'm out of town this week. I'm working at a hotel, so I'm on my phone.

I tried to do the laptop, but the Wi-Fi wasn't stable enough, so we're just on data. And so I specifically did stop and get a sparkling water. It is a, what is it, a strawberry lemon poppy. So that five grams of sugars and keep me up all night, I think. But it tastes all right. That's a lot of sugar. For 10 o'clock at night, yeah. I stopped by the gas station.

I'm up here in the Northwoods of Wisconsin. And I saw this little number here. It's a Papsed Light, which I never had. Papsed Light. Yeah. Still has a blue ribbon. I still see the blue ribbon. And in the loop blue ribbon, it says 96 calories.

So it's not bad. It says it's crisp and refreshing. It's refreshing. I don't know about crisp, but it's the light beer. So it's, it is what it's supposed to be, I assume. Chris is still on the table Yeah on the table All right

Keith you are slowly I don't have like that I just I just I just don't just turn my damn video off Because it's annoying Just slowly going away That was good I have to keep manipulating my phone

To where it doesn't I'm trying to get my fucking Docs in dark mode For the last half hour And I'm about to give up Just turn the brightness You have a lot of things No you don't I do

did you there was a whole conversation today which was pretty funny that you were making sure my mic was going to be okay yeah just bringing that up it's not no reason I can't like I was I've been extremely prepared like I've streamed all weekend or streamed all week and stuff at the hotel and I've had no issues no main major issues and then as soon as I go to connect to the podcast it's like down to like one bar of data or one bar of one bar of one bar of Wi-Fi or the connectivity and I'm like you motherfucker like just in our uh our our pre-gaming episode here. It was just like, I kept cutting in and out. I was like, fuck it. I got just have to go to the backup plan and just go to my cell phone and use data. And, you know, here we are. You know, I love that. You put it out there. You tried to rip on Brandon and the rest of the crew was just like, hold on. Yeah. Well, his audio was fucking shit. It was, it was, it was bad. It was really, really bad. And I think it's because whatever headphones you were using were just walking. When you got rid of those, you were fine.

Yeah, I yanked him off like a third of the way through. Because, like, I was cutting out. myself and I was like I'm hoping that's not coming through and turns out it was but you're good buddy redemption today redemption um you want to do actually no I'll get this one out of the way so I bought these new zins slim date okay no hold on I want to talk to you about that so this packaging is actually um nicotine pouches Zin Canada D. Slim. So you went from that photo, and you picked two of the most disconnected words on that photo to make a dick joke.

I just wanted to point that out. That was such a stretch, but was kind of worth it. Does it kind of work, though, a little bit? No, not at it. You're looking at it. Yeah, that's true. Slim D. I was honestly thinking when I saw Slim, I saw the picture earlier, I was like, is it slim

gym flavored? Because that would be legit. No. So what I'm learning is here in Canada, we have exponentially different flavors of zins than you guys do. Because I think we have better shipping with Sweden. And these are just instead of the thick flat zins,

these are a bit thicker, but they're smaller. Oh. Right? So when you're doing an upper decky, they're just higher up on your gum. But I just... To your brain faster. Yeah. That's math, right?

But I just thought it was really funny that it says Canada D Slim and you were like Slim D D, ha ha ha ha, dick joke. It was a long jump, but it was worth it. Also, what I think these are flavored at is do you guys, neither of you smoke, I assume. I don't smoke. No. Have you ever heard of demori cigarettes? No, like clove cigarettes?

No, so DeMore was a brand up here that actually put out like actual tobacco. So I think this flavor is menthol cigarette. So it's slight tobacco, slight menthol, to the point that it's actually hurting my throat. But yeah, I thought that was pretty funny. I just wanted to point out that, yeah, Keith somehow made two words completely separate to make a dick joke. good work buddy a little dick joke oh slim dick joke

I mean synonymous synonymous I guess you could have a really long one and be thin so I guess it's not just a pencil dick yeah

but like if it's like eight inches between like a half inch or round like is it a big dick or not probably to go with it not being a big dick it's like a deuce bigelow do you all remember that when the guy would always say that the guy had a small dick

and he's like it's not small it's thin like spaghetti thin I can pierce the cervix but cannot pleasure a woman um it's good stuff

I want to point out today you guys you guys can see it but I did get a mail run from Big Lauren so I got the bandana I think you got one as well Keith and I got a whole little care package

with the honeycut sunglasses yeah I got those Those are dope. I do enjoy them. I am featured in many a picture from Lift Hard Live Easy rocking those sons of bitches. Yeah, no, I got those too. And I'm actually wearing them in public because those are really dope sunglasses.

So I just want to thank Big Lauren from Texas for that one. I've been the, the crew sticker exchange is wild right now. Because I'm just mailing stuff out. I bought a whole book of American and Canadian. stamps and I'm getting people messaging me like today somebody messaged me and they were like do you want exchange you want exchange I'm like yeah sure I'm not too thrilled about the new stickers I got I think they actually printed them as labels not as stickers because I tried to convince my laugh to use plate snacks but she was like no we got to use this company and they're not great

so I'm not too thrilled to send these out to people that's a good ad rate for plate snacks like I get I get that stickers are extremely expensive and people don't want to spend a dollar a sticker whatever place next ends up being on average less than I've seen I have handed a lot of shitty stickers over the last few years and you can really tell where you really figure it out of how like the poor quality is is when you're trying to put a magnet on the back of it

and if you fuck it up just a little bit and you try to go tear it off and the ticker sticker just like rips in half basically whereas place snacks I could I could take anything to place snacks and take it back off and stick it back on and it's just significantly higher quality material so well these ones these ones are peeling already so i've stuck them to a few things and they're starting to i can see the corners lifting so i do think they did them label quality not sticker quality i'll be i'll be taking over because she designed the sticker right so i was like hey can

you place the order and she was like no use this company they're local and they're better and they were not um must be uh you know just another reason to stay away from brick and mortar yeah so i'll be definitely sticking to plate snacks in the future um I was going somewhere with that. Stickers. Nope, I'll never remember. But anyway, thanks to everybody exchanging stickers. Everything's...

If you don't hear from me, it's because I haven't ordered my new ones yet. Yeah, I've got like four people. I've kind of like... Not necessarily left on red, but it's like, yeah, I'll do the ticker exchange when I get back in town. And I was like, dreading having to like dig through all my DMs and find which ones that was so hard. Like, fuck, who did I promise a sticker to? I'm like, sorry, I'll get back to you. Yeah, that's why I keep them in the notes.

I need to figure out this whole sending to Canada thing and get that good. It's just a Canadian stamp. It just seems like, where do you buy that at the Canada store? I just put like four, like. That's probably too many. In all fairness, you guys could put one and it would probably make it here. All right. Because your exchange is so different.

Oh yeah, that's what it was. The amount of Americans that don't understand our postal codes is wild. Yep. I think I think it was you. I was thinking about. Your address is a fucking mouthful when I had to give that to someone the other day and it's like, it's like a paragraph.

So our postal codes, no, no, no, everything's the same. You just have to add Canada. And then our postal codes are six alpha numeric digits. And they are the same every time. It's just letter, number, letter, number, letter, number, letter, number.

And the amount of American crew that are like, the hell is that? And I'm just like, it's just a postal code, man. Relax. In fact, if you, want to mail Santa Claus. You do

H-0-H-O-H-0. And you can mail Santa Claus up here using that postal code. But I thought that that was really funny. The amount of... Because Scantz was like, what's your address? And I sent him in the address. He's like, dope. And I was like, yeah, it's refreshing to not hear

somebody panic over the postal code. It was funny. It was pretty good. Okay, your turn. Go. Do you guys? Thor deadlift last week. Anybody get a chance to see that or see the videos on that? I mean, unless you were blind or dead, you probably saw it.

Because I saw, the funniest thing I think, because almost everyone, almost every lifting page re-shared it. But then I had a couple guys, like, giving people, like, stop reposting it. We've already fucking seen it. Blur, blur, blur. Blur, blah, blah. I'm just like, shut up, douche. Like, shut the fuck up. Like, I don't know.

Like Thor or not, that was pretty fucking impressive lift. It's a big deal. You know, it's like just, I don't know. Eddie Hall doesn't seem to think so. I still, I guess my controversy would be like that, you guys are familiar with that Colton in, whatever the, I act.

Engle, right. Yeah, Engel, Brinkie, whatever the fuck. Like, I think he's the South American, or the South African guy, who literally can pull 1,100 with straps, sumo, and like, damn near locked it out without straps, but also sumo. So it's like, like, you know,

what do you think is more impressive? A, it once he actually because he will at some point in the next couple years or sooner he will lock out 1100 hook grip or whatever which will be fucking crazy that's that's insane hook grip sucks but but sumo so is that least less or more impressive than thor or whoever else does 1100 plus with the deadlift suit and fucking straps like I mean up contrary wait wait whoa whoa whoa Thor was wearing a deadlift suit yeah no that's why it's so like that to me it's it's all apples it's all fucking

apples and oranges, like, none of it can be compared fucking one to one. But, like, I still think if Colton can fucking lock that out in a power lifting mate, Sumo, whatever, like, you can shut on Sumo what you want. Like, that's still more impressive to me than straps and, you know, uh, I think it's

more impressive. I don't know. Either way, they're both, fuck. Well, yeah, his body weight. It's, he's literally like 250 pounds versus 450 pounds. That and he's also not hitching or ramping. He's doing it to power lifting standards. So now, I mean, obviously it's different leverages for different body types I don't think like he can

pull a lot conventional too I've seen him pull like 800 and something pounds conventional but I don't know if yeah I don't know if you could ever get to that same level conventional so I think that's where Thor it is just so impressive like that's just so much weight whether or not you have a suit on I've never pulled in a suit so I can't really I do have the suits don't add a I mean I guess they add some but like in compare like out of the three power lifting type of lifts that have supportive equipment

squat bench and deadlift I mean it's historically the deadlift suit gives you the least because that's why you have guys that'll squat a thousand bench 800 and fucking pull 600 because they can't pull 500 pounds raw so it's like

suit's only giving them fucking 100 pounds or something right take all those numbers to the grain of salt I'm just I'm you know generalizing but you see I see a lot of guys all the Randy's out there

all the randies of yeah I don't you know I try to strategically stay away from that controversy of sumo versus conventional. And be honest with you, like, the rules are the rules. They allow you to do that.

But I do think that's part of why powerlifting is a bit of a joke at the moment because there's a way to game different things. I don't think Sumo is the same as conventional. I think it's a different lift. It's not a worse lift. It's a different lift. And I also kind of worried, like,

he was wearing a suit. could he can you wear suits in strongman like if he if he tried that at the no that is no well it it all depends on what the fucking you know like if you go to a local strongman show some say you can't like eddie was wearing a suit thor was wearing a suit like most of the biggest strongman deadlifts of all time i believe are in a deadlift suit yeah well yeah like you could even wear a suit like in the strong man uh throw down at home gym con like even a vent not a I believe, yeah, I believe that Hogan had one.

The suit's not adding that much. So, still an incredible lift. I just don't think comparing a powerlifting sumo in a suit is the same as conventional strong man in a suit. I just don't think those are the same comparisons. I think they're both impressive. Yeah, absolutely. Colton wasn't in a suit. That's what I was getting at.

What the fuck? That's what I'm getting at was like the kids don't want to roll. Like he straight up goes out in a fucking singlet in. and pull over a thousand pounds sumo he said he didn't i don't know what his second attempt was like that would have been his counted lift over a thousand but like he literally put eleven hundred on it and like basically got it right to the top and then he slipped out of his hands but then he came back out like an hour later or something and exhibitionally did it again with straps and locked it out like easily so it's like if you're not if you're not familiar with who the kid is you will

be really soon because he is going to go down as a mount rushmore of strong man if he doesn't like blow something out i mean he already does have the biggest fucking total of all time i believe uh beating out guys that weigh 200 pounds more than him 150 but which is just wild but all right enough about that uh congratulations thor you did it yep and mass omics posted a video talking about why you're the best in the business because uh sometimes you have belief sometimes you don't have belief and then when belief is good you have good belief and get results Yep.

This little heart in there, they dug up. Who's the other guy in the video? Fucking weird-looking guy. Tommy, right? I got a question for you guys. So this didn't happen, but it almost happened. And I think the crew will have some really big opinions on this. Two examples.

So I had my honeycut glasses on my shirt. and I was in a washroom and the paper tower or the toilet paper fell so I leaned over to pick up the toilet paper and then I stopped and I took my glasses off my shirt put them in my pocket to make sure they didn't fall in the toilet and sometimes when I'm at work I have my favorite reusable water bottle and they have stand-up urinals at my work and sometimes I worry that my water bottle will fall in the urinal let's say that happened so you have your favorite usable water bottle, your favorite sunglasses, whatever, and it falls in a urinal or a toilet.

Are they garbage now? More than... I would say absolutely not, personally. See? I see. I'm also somewhat disgusting and cheap. Like, I just told you, like, before I think we recorded, maybe I talked about my... No, I might have been during this that my washing machines,

like, from the early 90s. And it's not that we can't necessarily make money to afford a new one. It's just that it's that it still works. You know, it's like, why am I going to get rid of it? So I think, yeah, it would have to be like, like think about it this way. You have a retainer that you get from the dentist in Canada. And that drops in the toilet. What do you do with it?

Because it sits in your like dirty mouth all day, which arguably probably has as much bacteria. Not you specifically, but just the human mouth. I have a dirty mouth. So, I don't know, that's kind of an argument. Like, I would probably just bare hand, pull it out, wipe my hands on my shirt, throw it back in my... Oh, Jesus. Okay, so I wouldn't go that far. Like, I'd probably at least lice all white thing.

Yeah. I guess my... Boil it, maybe. My first question is, why wouldn't... So if I went into the bathroom with a water bottle, I think I would stick the water bottle on the fucking sink counter, not sit on the urinal that I'm pissing in but that's just me you know

so Brandon let's talk about the YouTube video did you get a chance to watch Kevin's YouTube video this week I did actually watched it well it came out today I watched it about two hours ago so nice okay

what were your thoughts I enjoyed it I always like you know Kevin's a good guy I've known him for several years now you know being able to see the whole gym and you get him see him get his kind of credit and you know get some get some eyes on him hopefully get some more followers and you know just uh you know good enough good dude that deserves a bigger following so uh i love his PR bell i'm definitely i remember him i think he posted something about that in the past or maybe and i was like i think i already had a mental note of like

i need to steal that idea of somehow which which i think i even had something on amazon already kind of like in my you know my my idea list of like oh i got to figure out which which is going to be the perfect bell because I want something like that in my gem and I love that concept of just having like some kind of like ring this bell after you hit a PR yeah I think that's pretty cool I like to I mean his whole aesthetic's pretty cool because it's all kind of it's like DIY but like in like a cool DIY you know what I mean like sometimes like when I've tried to DIY stuff in the past it works but it's it's never something I'm not going to replace one day with like the actual thing because yeah whereas whereas reverse hyper is

probably more effective than most other people's 800-hour reverse hypers. Absolutely. Yeah, I bet it's more solid than my scout reverse hyper. Oh, yeah, for sure. I did get to watch it, and that's why I made that. Well, no, I didn't. I didn't watch the whole thing.

But I did get to that point, and that's why I made that meme. That rogue was going to steal this. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry about my kid interrupting. Oh, that's fine. Yeah. I've used some kids first every time right I've used some homemade reverse hypers that go into a rack

and not one that was that nice looking yeah it's just like this big like 400 pound thing that just like took up the entire rack and could never be moved and I just like this is stupid bud why do you have this year it only it only takes 45 minutes to set it up yeah well they just did they just had a second rack that it just lived in and I'm like there's got to be a better way just at that point get a reverse hyper and use your yeah for what it's for right exactly

it was one that actually it was one that actually came up for sale like 30 minutes away from my house like it was like an original west side barbell i don't think it was branded it was like whatever brand made it for west side barbell it was for sale for like 300 bucks and of course it got snatched up like super quick but it was it's pretty cool looking nice so before we move into the ad read just want to give a shout out to big cam who swung by my house to drop off a camberd bar for me um i'm gonna use that to practice some log movements Funny joke with me and Cam is I've never met him. Yeah, those pictures were very funny.

I have only met his wife. I met her at the Creed concert last year. And now he has only met my wife. And he lives 45 minutes away from me. And I think that that is a very funny, ongoing joke. Why don't you have a dinner with him or something? That should be like a crew meetup halfway and just do a dinner one night or something. I agree.

But also, meeting up with people sucks. because people are people and it's hard. But I just thought that that was funny and worth pointing out that he put in the Discord. By the way, if you show up to the gym and he's not here, you will get a free tour anyway. And then my wife wore the fucking wrong again shirt. So she's done that to me now twice because...

She dressed like you the first time, right? Yeah, she did. And she did like the whole pose I do. She thought that was hilarious. And I was like, well, make sure you wear a mass and off. make sure because I bought her one of the oversized shirts she's like yeah yeah I'll wear that one and then I get the pictures and she's in the wrong again shirt yeah so she trolls me a little bit on that one that's good for her it's always good to have wife it's always good to have a wife that's kind

of half in on it yep right sure because then they can mess with you a bit like the time I surprised you in your gym like oh yeah she was out man he was in on that one yeah it's always good when when wives can do that so I really like the uh Stephanie consumed about at least to half of the Lifter Leveezy recap episode I was watching Sunday night before she tapped out and went to bed but like she'll watch that stuff like she doesn't like ever listen

I mean yes she does listen to the podcast but it has to basically be a recap episode or something that like has to pertain to like something we did together but uh I made it in that video actually I haven't got to talk about that sure I was there at the Lifter Live Easy with the with the Keith here by the way

skeleton with the red beard I saw you at Tanner's party on the video. Yeah, yeah. That's hilarious. I didn't know that was going to happen. And I had actually joked with Keith saying, like, I should have given you a puppet or like a something of me to carry around. And you could like pretend to be me and like do my voice or whatever. Like, or whatever.

And then like an hour later, I get a text that's like, oh, you're here by the way. And then I was there, by the way. And I made the recap video. and I really love because I don't think Tommy is in on the Keith here by the way joke I don't understand it the video was just him walking up going

what the hell is that Joey and that was the only appearance of my skeleton in that video and I really appreciate that I thought that was hilarious and I big shout out to all the crew this is the only the first chance I've had to say it all the people that sent me pictures

and videos and selfies with the skeleton of me telling me they missed me. God, guys, I could have cried. I'm going to be up front with you on that one. I think I did choke up a bit on the first, when they first sent it to me, when Keith and Nate sent it to me, I did, it's just good to know that, you know, I was missed.

And you guys made me feel really good for that one. Hannah kept me updated. She was messaging me nonstop about what my proxy was up to. um kids playing with me because of course we all know that it lived hard live easy i play with kids because i miss my kids when i'm there so there so there was so many kids there this year it was uh great it was no it was it was just a lot of like you could tell just people were getting more comfortable bringing their kids and or yeah if people are just having more kids or kids are getting

to that age where they're actually just running around and we all know i would have like secretly disappeared to go play with kids because again i miss my kids when i'm there so i'm like hey there's other kids let's go have fun so uh yeah i just wanted to thank everybody for that because that that did mean a lot that did put a tear in my eye so thank you to everybody that was a part of that um speaking of hannah real quick my my favorite um least fun most fun lift her to live easy was her response if anyone saw that i don't i won't put her on blast but oh my god i laughed so hard and she sent that in um didn't oh well basically she okay i guess i'll say it um her her her her her most fun was hanging out with the crew, I believe,

and her least fun was traveling, so she hadn't taken a shit all weekend. No, no. It's just like, when you sent me this, you know I'm going to, like, she sent it, like, she responded to the story, so knowing it was going to get posted, and I was like, ah, this is going to be great.

Well, that's because she wasn't in my hotel room. Yeah, I think, yes, harkin. And I think I even put, I put like a pooping, like, or a constipation. Like, I went out of my way to, like, find something that with a constipation adjacent

for the, for the story, for the audio. That was great. For the record, I told her not to come up to my room. I was like, no, like I have to go poop.

Don't come up. And then she was like, no, no, no, I'll just wait for you. And I was like, no,

don't. Like, give me 10 minutes. I will be down in a second. She's like, no, no, I'll come up.

And I was like, all right, you're feeling. And yeah, it was, it was not great. It's good stuff. Um,

before we move on to the ad read. We do up to rate last week, late last week's episode, which was essentially the lift hard to live easy recap that the sisters put out which would have i i think i was doing the math and i got distracted but like they had basically there's over close to six hours of lift hard live easy recap between the two podcasts so you know did anybody listen to any of that oh yeah i didn't listen to ours weirdly but i did listen to there ours is better but that's okay i'll get there no no i i just ours is better in the sense that like there's a great obviously

I love everything they do, but, like, we had, we had eight crew on, and I don't feel like there was a ton of, like, stepping each other's dicks. Like, I thought for being that many people, that everyone, it's just a good, it's how I like to say. I'd rather you step on my toe than my dick, so there's that. Do you know this exact scenario you'd have to be in for somebody to step on your dick? I mean, unless your dick touches the floor, which probably doesn't, unless you don't. Unless you're that. How many times in high school did you just like pass out drunk in a room full of people and like someone's like fucking apartment or something like or like someone's a basement? Like and then like someone waking up in the morning and there's like six people trying to like step around people to get out of the room.

Like you definitely get your dick stepped on in that scenario. Never. Definitely could. So you meant this in a literal way. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. Yeah.

But anyway. No, I was just getting at like I thought our episode was very good. And for being for being a eight. like because I didn't want it to be that many people but I had like I kind of like overreached because I thought a couple people would say no and then everyone said yes I was like well fuck and then I had a couple people like suggest like hey you really need to get this person on for this reason it's a really good idea we should and then I was like fuck now I do have eight people like this is going to be hard but I thought there were people that just like knew we had too many people and didn't chime in as much as they maybe did if there was like three or four of us but uh I I joined for about half an hour and I just quietly ate chicken wings while you guys talk you were distracting us well I'm good Good, fuck you. That was hilarious. Get rid of your... I literally had to block your image

because you were just sitting there, fucking like picking your nose, scraping your beard, weeping your wings. And I'm just like, just trying to focus on who's talking and your face is just there. And I only did that

because in the Discord you guys were talking about it. And they were like, what if I just show up and eat? And I was like, well, I'll show up and eat. I don't give me shit.

Good stuff. Anyway, I will get to it. It's right now my work schedule. I'm off Tuesday, Wednesdays. I work Thursday through Monday, and I only listen to a podcast when I drive to work. No, I got you. Right. So I'll get that.

Ours is super, super long, and I appreciate anyone that does fully consume it. I get that it's long. Nate, did it. Nate specifically, he fucking, like, wanted to just keep me up at night and then cabrile me back in. But I don't, I don't feel like there was, like, bad dead time. Like, I don't feel like we talked about not pertinent stuff. But Jeff and is what the damn hell was the funniest thing I think I've ever seen.

he just circled the time and it was like what the damn hell and we're like sorry bro like i don't know which which time of what type of tism nate has but like he's the most energetic human being i've ever met in my life i never saw him not be just like he's blah he's and i don't i don't have that energy and i don't know he is i don't know when he crashes he must crash hard that's all i can think of if he crashes yeah but like he he he brought an energy on the podcast this week I think it's because it was something he had been to too whereas we usually when we have him on he's just like

he's helping us like you know he's we're kind of forcing him to like run the episode of like whatever roundtable we're doing and it kind of putting him in an awkward position where he says he's in an awkward position but he still does great but like this particular episode he was there he was able to have like you know he didn't have to really do any research or anything he was just able to like just get there and talk so I think he he flourished as a host last week with me on the recap and uh it was really good to see him do that so i i'm gonna rate our episode so i'm gonna give it five out of five big nates should we all rate none of us rated last week except

massonomics episode we didn't do that i know i know that's the same episode yeah we we had the same episodes so that's why i'm not geez the you are blurry um so last i wish i could turn the video off so i'm just gonna i'm i don't want i'm i'm just the phone the video is just facing the bed like I'm focused on those sheets. So last week's Mathonomics episode, five out of five broken sandbags. Fuck, Tanner. He gave me so much shit for that.

He threw you right under the buzz. He was like, Keith just threw it right on the sheriff. No, it's been a good joke. I like being part of the jokes, but man, it's like,

we didn't even get to the memes I made of you and the orange sock killer. That one, it was, they were both funny, but the one literally looked like my buddy that lives out And, you know, Albany, the crickings, but it was you.

No, I get, I get that the image you put into AI, but what it spit out, because AI always, like, chain, makes it a fucking cartoon, basically. Yeah. And it looked just like big Joe Lisa. And I was just like, he travels the great vast state of New York, murdering sandbags. It is a big one. Oh, wow. We've been going for a minute, boys.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Let me. Yep. Do the episode. I'll rate five out of five Big Minnie wearing Big Tommy's hair on his head That was very funny Wool in his hair

That's right And his hair It's also good because it came Like the whole joke Like I think 30 people went up to him at home gym con It's like Where's your hair Tommy or you know Like you know just made wool jokes to him

So it was Oh yeah The many Yeah That's good That's yeah It was just a great week Obviously

Massonomics episode Yeah 5 out of 5 Yeah, mea, yeah. Yeah, blah, me, mm-hmm. Five out of five, me, yum, yes. But I thought ours was a pretty damn good episode. I really had fun of it. Yeah, next time I have three hours, I'll listen.

That's Nate's fault. You got Nad to read for us there, bud? I do, yes. Ad-read time? That was the most Canadian episode in years. Got Nad read there for you, bud? Okay, so I decided to go a little bit different. I wrote a poem.

So, and it is, it's from the heart, so I hope you'll take it that way. If you like big lifts with your squads, tune in to Massonomics, the home of small quads. From powerlifting strongman and home gym pride, we're cracking cold beers with gains on the side. It's a podcast of power and everyone's big here, where cottage cheese and LaCroix flow like beer. Tommy's wool hair defies natural law, like a sheep squatting six plates, your left. left in awe. They're jokesters and lifters, not chasing the norm. And lift shorts and graphic teas, they deadlift and form.

It's lifting and laughing, no need to choose. Just bench with your buds and forget all your blues. So lift hard, live easy, and you'll have it made. Join the Massonomics crew and always use code unpaid. Hell yeah, code unpaid. It's awesome, man. Appreciate you. Yeah, no problem. Well, I think we're going to kick all these looky,

off and see if we can't get the guest on the heart we do not well they're always there in spirit where are you Gary? You're supposed to be here helping us I think we forgot to put a link anywhere except in the private chat last week and uh I think some people

were a little upset but I think eight eight people on a Zoom call was enough to not have someone else trying to keep muting everyone that comes in our resident fact checker isn't here we're going to get so many things wrong yeah brother we are not professionals. Brother, we are not professionals.

So, I mean, the big question, what are you here? How'd you find Mathonomics? How'd you find unpaid and underrated? How'd you get here? Oh, wait. I'm sorry. I owe you something. Yes. My bad, Brandon. Is that you? Oh, I'm here. Oh, you're live on unpaid and underrated.

Yeah, I can hear you. Let's you jump in. Again, we don't want to miss any gold. That's what I know they that they know they listen is when they say I'm here. It is I. Yeah. So again, what brought you to Mathonomics? Same question.

So it was actually initially the, I'd seen lots of like banners, definitely massonomics gym banners, like now, knowing looking back, I now know that they're Masonomics gym banners. But what really, I think I was like the name and everything clicked was Coop's tour video. And I'm sure you've heard that tons of time. So whenever that released, like, 2022 maybe No no no it's like 2019 dude because I've been that old

At least like their gym tour Cause yeah I yeah at least when I watched it No yeah well Just not everything YouTube doesn't revolve around Brandon you know No I if I had to go to my head It'd be 2018 or 2019 because Okay

If I'm wrong his name is Brandon Braden Brandon Brandon Brandon I don't fucking know Did I say it wrong Who the fuck? I don't know who coop is I thought you were talking about our guest and that you said, I think you're implying that I said his name wrong, like you always fucking do.

Oh. But from there, I started listening to the podcast and kind of off and on, like I would see a guest that like John Hack's going to be on or even, I remember Alan Thrall was on. I was pretty psyched about that. So I just could kind of pick and choose, you know, cherry pick the episodes I wanted to listen to.

And then I decided to become a supporting member. it had actually been, it's not even a year yet. So it'll be a year August, August 25th. Keep getting all these new guys on. Yeah. But as I said last week, you know, the join crew put in the work and you'll get on the episodes, you know,

like it doesn't take much to like get into like the inner circle's not the right word, but like out of the 600, like you have to kind of do a little bit to stand out if you haven't been around for a couple years kind of thing. So like, you know, showing up to the in-person events, meeting people, making sure you're following everyone on Instagram, make sure you're following, you know, you're being active on Discord, you know, it's just a call out to anyone that's kind of new to crew and doesn't feel like they've really

connected with as many people yet. Just like, you know, I like the term put in the work, you know, some people might get offended by that, but like, you know, put in the work. Yeah, they can actually be kind of an organic thing, I feel like, you know, like you start, especially like you go to where I think it's sort of rolling for me is going to the Arnold and like kind of meeting you guys, like putting names and things. faces together because the Discord can be kind of overwhelming at first, especially like I'd never used Discord for that. So finally getting the hang of that and getting names and faces put

together and then Instagram handles like following you guys that I think that helped. Speaking of Instagram, where are they going to find you up, buddy? It's O'Doyle underscore Basement underscore lifts. Nice. And that's where you pretty much do all your lifting and drive. drinking? Yeah, that's pretty much just lifting. And then I have a personal page, but that's, you know, it's easier to keep stuff separate. Absolutely. Awesome, awesome. So I know where you live, but I don't know where you're from. So where are you from? Where you live? I live in Louisville, Kentucky, and I am from Louisville, Kentucky. So it's a little easy. Also, a few times of gear, like I said, I met up at the cabin in the Northwoods of Wisconsin right now. My wife's, my wife, Emily,

whom you've met, Keith. Yes, very, very, very, oh, actually that'll, that'll segue into my least fun, most fun. Oh, okay, got you. So, uh, her family owns a cabin, um, on a lake up here in Wisconsin. So we spend three or four weeks a year up here, which is pretty cool. Just whenever we get time off and work and that kind of. That's pretty cool. Now, is that the, is that the uper, what will, huck, huck, Vend goes somewhere up there.

And is there like a, is there uper's? Is am I saying that right? upper um i'm not sure what that is so i don't want to yeah i'm not sure i'm not sure i'm miss speaking because i'm a dummy sometimes oh they're stepping on dicks yeah yep yep i love that no one can like this is this the whole aspect of like just you know bringing up stuff from prior it's fun that's just that is my that is my sense of humor so i'm just glad found people. It's all, it's just not funny when it's, you know, it's always directed to you, but it's okay. That means they love you. That's what they keep telling. That's what Jen

keeps reassuring me of. Uh, what's that one piece of massonomic merch missed out on that you've kind of seen people wearing, you know, especially, you know, actually you being only here for a year, though you've only had access to the newer stuff. So you've had to have seen something cool in person or on someone's Instagram. I'll, I'll tell you, um, what I missed out on that I'm like, biggest regret because it was something I could have purchased. purchased because I was still like I'd bought like the eight bit powerlifting flag and like the don't curl in me flag like quite a while before I was a supporting member. So like I was still kind of like new of merchandise and stuff coming out. And I think I even had like the discounted

original lift shorts when they went on sale for like 20 bucks or whatever 34 down. I bought some of those. But then what I missed out on was the squats shorts. And that was like and like and people Everyone still wears those everywhere. So I'm constantly seeing them. I'm like, man, I wish I would have gotten it. I have the squat tea, but the shorts are just... That's the red one, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Maroon. I feel like they're, like, strategically doing, like, what they're going with the shorts, too. They're making the shorts, like, they're only doing one. They don't think they've reordered any shorts yet. Everything has just been one-off, like, 100, 100 or whatever. They have to buy, like, 100 or 150 for their minimum quality. Like, I don't think they've re-uped on shorts.

Um, they've just keep doing them in different colors or different logos. So I guess that's smart. I mean, it's got to, it has to help help sales. You know, you would think logically, like if it didn't, that's, they wouldn't keep doing different, you know, runs. Yeah. And I think that's, I think you're right that it helps sales and like you can bring it back a few years later or even if it's a different, a little bit different style, but yeah.

Whereas before, like they had the lip shorts fucking like seven years. So it's definitely a little bit of a different, uh, you know, branding approach now, which, you know, seem to be working for them, hopefully. and gives that variety too like so that's another thing too you get more returned customers probably like because they kept offering the same skew yeah it's like I want I like these short

they are really nice shorts like like my only critique with them is just like the the string was just I see hair longer but I think that's you know that's just more of a meish I don't know I love people have issues with it but you know 99 90% of the time they're fine for now and then it's like fucking yeah like no matter how big of a knot I tie this fucker still pulls through

but yeah it's what it is I just leave my tie side. Someone does, yeah, well, I could do that on my bigger one, but the ones I wear a little tighter, they'd be hard-pressed to get off tied. I like a nut-hugger one for the gym just so I can show off the legs. Yeah, I get that. Got to rock that vanity. What's your Hall of Fame status? Do you have one? Yeah, so I am at just six right now, but it will be, including this, including voice, or appeared on unpaid, rated podcast. So whenever the 25th comes around, it'll be seven. And that it doesn't, so we're getting there. And there's a lot. I mean, you can get a ton just by like going to the classic. I mean,

you can get three pretty much attend, compete. Or do those count? It's two separate. Two separate. It's two separate lines. So you will, that is the three that you would get. Because it's okay. Lipson Mastonauton. Gym, attend Lift Hard, Live Easy. Compete at Lift Hard Live Easy. gotcha gotcha so that's three i mean you can knock yeah a bunch off in a row you can knock crew falls out here in a couple months buddy it's a good one yeah i've actually talked about that it's actually talked about that it's not a hard flight either to uh from louisville like the the flights are like just looking out just kind of basing it's true falls usually is yeah i mean it's a pretty cheap flight for me so much yeah i think anything under five hundred dollars might be

worth it. I think mine was, like the base price, it's like, it took $3.99 or something, and then it's like once you like pick a seat or fucking, you know, take, have like one check bag or whatever or the one carry on, it's like they keep nickel and diamond you and then your return flight to get a flight

that doesn't suck ass, it's like another $100. It's like you can leave at 4 in the morning or you can leave at fucking 7 p.m. I'm not going to either of those fucking things. Do you have like a 9 o'clock flight that I can take so I can like be a little bit hungover and get to the airport at like 7 o'clock instead of fucking like 5 in the morning, and it's like, that's another

$150. So I think, like, to get the flights I wanted, it was going to be, like, closer to $600, but still, and then you got two nights in a hotel. Right. So, yeah, two nights in a hotel. There's another fucking $400. So, yeah, it's a thousand dollar weekend, no matter what. But it's pretty fun. Pretty damn fun.

Yeah, I don't see a world. I don't make it out there, but you know, we'll see. So we got the Hall of Fame status, and you got that supporting membership number handy? Yeah, it's number 437. nice that's uh that's kind of cool like we've had so i wonder if we've had every we'd had well we've had to have everyone in every different like hundred number like we've had like the zero to

99s the 100 to 199 so i'm sure we've had we've covered it all by now um except the 600 because we're over six now right so we have not had a so in the coming months we should have a six we should have a 600 uh supportive membership number with some of the people i'll be reaching out to in the next couple weeks uh so tune in for that and those people are hard because they haven't been, like, here that long, so they probably haven't been listening to us. Yeah. So for us to pitch, hey, come be on our thing.

They're like, who the heck are you? Exactly. Yeah. But these are just two outlying situations, but for the most part, yeah. We don't usually go with the newer and newer. Well, I know the answer to this, but tell me about that certified training center you got

in your home gym and, well, mainly certified training center. Yeah, so. We'll get in the home gym later. Yeah, it's a basement gym, which is pretty nice. I mean, space is definitely an issue, but it's definitely more powerlifting, set up for powerlifting. I have a four-post, Titan T3 rack, so that's like a two-by-three. It's the same one that Kevin actually had in his video, but his is a six-post version. I have a hansu power rack, or I mean, combo rack, a lap pull-down, you know, just some

kind of other various machines and barbells um i do it's not quite as bad as you and tanner but i do kind of have that barbell bug in me where i'm like like there's no like i think joey said it before it's like why do you have four different power bars of the same type or whatever like i i am that guy like i have four different power bars like and i will alternate depending on when i use them and i love a good power bar yeah i do too and uh you know a deadlift bar i need a new deadlift bar because i'm still running the Ohio Delft Bar? Oh, fuck off. How do I fucking close this Zoom call on my phone?

If I knew how to close this thing, I'd fucking do it. You told me you'd trade me straight up for your Orange Texas Bar, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You come up to Rochester and I'll think about it. Okay. You drive up there and then we can negotiate. The same amount of gas. Well, I'll go fuck myself then.

I guess my friend don't want to come see me. No, but the gym's pretty cool. I kind of like my aesthetic. I have decided not to paint the walls. I want every square inch of the walls to be covered in gym banners at some point. So that's kind of the goal. The hard part with that is like the Tetris puzzle, especially if like, Oh, for sure.

What kind of walls do you have? Do you have drywall or? No, they're concrete. So like those are even hard. Because for me, it's been a pin in the ass to find like a good adhesive tape or whatever. Like I've gone through 10 different iterations of what's the best way to fucking put banners on a wall. And then when you finally get one that sticks and then you're like, well, now I want to move it seven inches to get this other banner and then you just rip the

fucking paint off the con because I have dry lock on mine but like the the tape will usually rip off the dry log and shit so then it's just like I don't I have pain when I want to like rearrange banners so I try to once it goes up it's pretty much it's forever home if I can get away with it the route that I went so mine are unpainted concrete walls which is kind of nice because I can put a banner up I use the thicker like heavy duty gorilla type gorilla tape and it's like I mean it's like an eighth of an inch thick like it's pretty thick stuff and I'll take a hammer once the banner is hung and I will like gently tap on the tape and it like locks it into the wall nice so like I haven't had any banners come down

or anything like that so I get one fall down every couple months I had a the basement brand one like that's been up for like three years never had an issue with it and just fell off the fucking wall the other day I was like god damn it's like the the thicker plate snacks ones are really, really good banners and the adhesive sticks really good. But they're just so heavy, just because they're such a nice quality. Heavy banners. Put them paid. All right.

Well, I got a least fun, most fun for you here. And if you find it offensive, we'll move on. I think it'll be funny, though. Okay. You get a good answer. So least fun, most fun. Being married to a short queen. Ah, okay.

So I'm going to go with. Or we'll give the, you know, Oh, sorry. Preface it with, like, how tall she is, how tall you are. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're kind of a giant. She's kind of not so much. Absolutely.

So my wife is, my wife is, it's always a joke around that she's 4 foot 11, but she claims with, with no, you know, me checking behind her in the measurement, she claims she's exactly five foot tall. So exactly. Like, she's like, no, I'm not over five foot. I'm exactly five foot tall. Okay. So I'm six foot four.

So there's a little bit of a different. there in heights, especially in public and things like that. It is underrated. I enjoy being taller than my wife, especially because, you know, I mean, I think in every marriage, there's like the kind of like joking around and stuff you do. And that's like a lot of our jokes, you know, kind of go around that. And it's also like, I feel very needed a lot of times. Just because, like, if there's anything over six foot in the air, like, I need to be there, you know, for her. Like, unless I want to see you're like climbing on the kitchen table for something. So, yeah, definitely underrated.

That is the wrong game, though. I appreciate all the, you know, druthers, but specifically least fun, most fun. We got to hone in on that. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're good. You're good. Yeah, my bad.

So least, so that is, the most fun is me, sorry, going back to the same thing I said, the most fun is me being needed all the time. Absolutely. Sounds fair. Let's see, the least fun. Yeah, has it ever? I mean, that's why I was kind of hesitant. intent to put her right i don't want to say anything negative but like there's got to be something

that's just like this really is a burden to some extent but it's not it's really not but you know yeah i'm trying to think of so yeah you can you you can you can i will allow you to ride the line if you don't if you can't think of something funny if anything's going to get you you know in the dog house oh no it's not going to give me the dog house but like holding just walking holding hands has to be uncomfortable for you right because you're you like slouched like uh not really like to reach her arm yeah i guess that's your i've never really noticed if that is a thing. Is your deadlift imbalance now

because she's pulling you down to the ground on one side when you walk and pull the hands? If it is imbalanced, unfortunately, it's not for that. I'm going to say least fun. I will say this. Okay,

so least fun is, and it may not be funny, but it is the truth, is photos. Because I have to, like, she can't reach up to my height for a photo,

right? But I have to be the, the one that slouches down. And if you've ever seen me, I'm six foot four, 270 pounds. And like, I don't look cool, like slouched over, you know? So that is, I'm glad I thought of that

because that is absolutely the least fun. No, that's perfect. I said, I had much reservations asking this, but I was like, I wasn't going to go with the low-hanging fruit. So I thought that was a good one. Sorry, I played your wrong game. I mean, it's at the end of the day, you have your druthers, I guess,

and we just be circled back to it there. That's right. It works out. Too many Papp's lights here. What's the most fun? Most fun is just, like I said, just being like the person that, like, always needs to help her with things. Like, getting stuff off the high shelves or, like, even at the grocery store, like, the poor girl can't reach anything. you know what i mean like it's just do you guys ever share a vehicle and like how long does it take

her to pull the seat up and you to push it back so that's got to be the most like yeah consuming thing to start your drive after she drives your car the worst thing ever i will tell you this so uh she has a honda odyssey like because she's a mom so she's a honda odyssey and the key is programmed per user so like there's user one and user two so she's user one because it's her car and if I were to get in her car, I could say I just drove the car, got out and wanted to get back in, but I was using her key. When I start the car, because I used her key, even though the seat was previously pushed back, it will go to her seat. So there has been, that would kill you. Oh, the first few times it did it.

Now I just like anticipate, I know where the button is on the door to like switch from one to two really fast. But before I like knew where all the the buttons were to push, I almost die. so many times and like it is just a slow like death like if you're like going towards the steering like it is just it was it was pretty good and there was a and that was actually another time she was with me uh because i generally just drive it's just how it works out but she was with me and that happened and she just lost it like she didn't try to help me she didn't um you know anticipate this happening even though she was her car she knew it was going to happen this might be my favorite least fun most fun in a long time just watched you suffer and laughed great that's right

ruthless oh this was perfect great good stuff and i felt more comfortable asking because i met her in person at uh oh absolutely oh and there was several jokes in person too like she's so used to it you know yeah she was a good sport absolutely like i make a lot of jokes too about like if she needs to reach something like instead of me just reaching it like i'll pick her up like a child you know no Upses, upsies. Well, that actually, that was kind of a joke at home gymcon. We went to PBR and did bull riding. None of, Keith or I did not.

No, fuck that. Hogan and Brobo did. Well, my wife really wanted to do it, but she was like, I didn't want to be embarrassed in front of your friends when I asked you to pick me up like a child to put me on top of this bull. We would have, no one was just, that would have actually been, that would have made the story that much better and would have made the cover charge worth it. Oh, I don't know if it made that worth it Because we got swimming away Oh, all right That was a good that made my day

That was good What are you got for him, Joey The height person question Yes, sir Yep, you got your one lift You're going out to do it It's the big lift that you really want to hit Who's the height person

Slapting you on the back? Um, So I'm going to go man, I hate to say my wife again, so I'm not going to. I'm going to change. You can. You can. Because it is funny. In the home gym, like, when I go for a PR, like, generally she might come down. And you know what I'm saying? Like, if I'm just going for, like, a gym PR and I'm by myself, like, she'll come down and, like, cheer me on. So, like, that's kind of like, that's actually awesome. The person that, like, I'm used to being around PR's with. Because, like, as of right now, I don't compete, unless it's some sort of on, like, line thing like garage gym competition or something so um she is kind of like my hype person like in that way without sending corny um so yeah uh there are people though like especially at work

they're my hype person like with other things like in my job especially like when we're doing something we just kind of always you know kind of have each other's backs in my crew and stuff like that. So I'll go with all, you know, my crew at work, my wife, but mostly my wife. My life. No, good answer. Well done. And I kind of segue into, you know, anyone that's not familiar with you and what your career is. You just want to share that with the audience? Yeah. So I'm a fireman or I guess firefighter. It's probably the preferred nomenclature nowadays.

What's your resume? It says firefighter, but it's actually technically it says, sergeant. So that's the rank that I hold. I mostly drive the fire apparatus. I work on an engine company. So those of you have you probably seen engine and ladder or engine and truck, that kind of thing. So engines have water tanks on them with fire pumps that we can go in with hoses, things like that, where trucks mostly have the big ladders on top. So I'm on an engine company and I drive about 90% of the time. I've been a firefighter for 17 years now.

Yeah, I'm actually, I can retire here, so that's that's dope. So like, I get that you're the driver when you get onto the scene. And then, like, but are you still, like, what is your responsibilities versus it's like just a guy in the back seat kind of?

Yeah. So on an engine, so it takes, so we basically have to take water from the engine and then we use a fire pump. So that increases the pressure of the water. So, like, we can create pressure, but we can't create water, obviously. So we use fire hydrants, things like that to bring water to the engine. And then I increase the pressure with the pump, okay, inside that.

And then we fill up the hoses and things like that. So during the fire, I'm always, like, either hooked into a hydrant. Yeah, I'm managing that water. Okay. Okay. So you don't leave the truck vicinity then, basically. Correct. Yeah.

So if I'm usually like a. Yeah. So like on a structure fire, we're going to have like five pieces come in. So it's usually like three engines and two trucks. So if I'm like that first or second engine, I don't really put all my gear on and go in with the other guys. If we're like third or beyond coming in, I'm going to put my gear on. I'm going to go in and I'm going to join. Does that message your wife a little bit happier that you transition in for that role as your career has progressed? And you would think that you're slightly safer? Yeah, sometimes. Like she definitely prefers. So I was on a different fire department for actually changed agencies. And on that fire department, I was a captain. So like I was in charge of the engine. And she knew how much I love that. Like I like, I like just kind of being in that leadership role. But when I transitioned back to being a driver, it was kind of, she even said it. She was like, I just feel better. driving and the work the department i'm on now is also less busy as far as fires and things like that so she likes that too but she also knows like that's the weirdest thing in the world like firefighters like we don't want to see your house burned out we don't want to see you it hurt or in trouble but if it's going to happen we want to be there you know what i mean like like it's

like we want to do that job like i don't know and you could ask like big derrick's a good one i've talked to him from virginia beach you know he's on the same page good deal good deal yeah it's always always like hearing about what people do to some extent you know especially when it's you know a good service like this and you know

other than you and Derek I'm sure there's other a handful of guys in the crew that we just don't even know about that are in the same you know position as well so that's just good stuff appreciate it um so just everyone's clear your name is Brandon Doyle not Brandon O'Doyle the O'Doyle the O'Doyle

The O'Doyle gym is a play on the happy or the Billy Madison, you know, reference, not your name. Does people, so do people think your name is O'Doyle then? Like, I'm assuming some people. Well, some probably do. So growing up, it comes from that. Growing up like in the 90s, of course, like kids, like I'd all seen that movie and like I'd seen that movie, of course. And every time somebody heard my name from the first time, they'll be like, O'Doyle rules, have you heard that before? And then after a while I start playing along, like, no, what's that from?

I've never heard so for a long time, it was like, oh, I could hear this again. You know what I mean? But now it's like, I kind of embraced it because it, I didn't really have a name for the gym. Like the gym has existed in somewhat the same form, like in that same basement since 2018. But there was no, like, actual name attached to the gym until the certified training facilities came along. So I was like, well, I don't really have like a nickname. name like I've had like different iterations of nickdames over the years but nothing that's really like stuck you know what I mean so I was like I guess I can just go back to like what everyone has like made fun of me for my whole life and just embrace it you know what I mean the really funny thing is my wife married into it obviously the last name she took my last name um not obviously it's not that it has to happen but she decided to take my last name and she now gets it all the time everyone like what is this O'Doyle rule so She had never seen Billy Madison.

Oh, okay. Have you made her? Have you guys watched it since then? So this trip, because I kind of anticipated this questioning of up, is hoping to get a story from it. This trip, we tried to watch it and she fell asleep in like 24 minutes. So she still didn't,

I think she heard one of the characters say O'Doyle rules, like, you know how, because there's like a different age group, O'Doyle and every one of his grades pretty much. So maybe one day she'll understand why people scream that at her. that's really funny you got anything joy yeah you've got a

massonomics plate I do yeah that's definitely worth talking about I have the Kentucky massanomics plate so MSX and in MX Miss Mexico yep

yep so so that's another thing Keith you were talking about doing the you and you or possibly another one year or yeah I was I was looking at them. I think it was going to be like $60 up front and then like $30 a year or something.

I don't fucking know. We'll see. Supposedly you can also register for plates outside of your state in the United States. So like you could go to like, I don't know if does somebody already have New Jersey? Like you could go to like a state nearby register for them at MSS and MX, which now that I say this, maybe everyone's going to rush out and do that. but that'd be really weird to have blades from a different state that I live in I don't know how people how people know I was from the biggest state and you know the northeast if I did that but it would be really funny to take it from somebody from that state

like I'm not even from there and I took it from you I couldn't figure out who I can't remember who has it in New York is it it's got to be one of the guys in this New York City then because I know it's not any of my upstate crew I think scantz has the spreadsheet for that well yeah scantz is the keeper of the plates. Did you do that before you joined crew? I did not. No, I was actually, I don't know why.

There was like a chunk of the Discord for like maybe a two week period or one week period that we're discussing the license plates quite a bit. And it was actually like I was, I had to go to the like DMV anyways to like register, you know, re-register my vehicle for the year. So I was like, I may as well just like see if it's available. So there was like a little inquiry thing where they can like. type it in their little system and tell me. And I think it was like a $25 charge.

Oh, geez. I was like, hey, it's worth it. You know, like, just do it. So it's kind of nice. Yeah, it's like $200 here. Oh, is it really? Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's the only reason I haven't done it yet.

But I do need to buy a new car coming probably in the next two or three months. You just got that one paid off. No, I know, but that's. To your surprise. But then my wife also. just got her license so you're talking about bad in a second car

not necessarily getting rid of that one then or just getting something she's more comfortable okay she'll take this one I'm likely going to buy something smaller

that makes more sense because I drive way more than she does because I work she's a stay-at-home mom so I'm yeah putting it out there somebody's going to beat me to it

beat me to it but the Ontario Masonomics plate is probably coming very soon yeah because I think ours is only a one-time charge it's weird that you have to pay a subscription

in New York to have that's how ours is it's one time yeah my vehicle is like that it's on is on a 1998 Land Rover discovery so like everything's cheaper for that also for some reason because there's so much age on the vehicle it's like it's registered like as a

vehicle that's only driven every once in a while you know what I mean so it's your daily but it's a vintage vehicle so it's yeah you pay lower amounts I actually don't I drive it maybe twice a once a week maybe you know like if that Oh, that's true because you're only working, like, you mean, when you go in for a shift, it's like, you go to work two days a week. Yeah, and it's actually, and I have a different pickup truck that I drive more often than that.

Ah, okay. But it's, it's, it's definitely on the cooler vehicle, at least. Like, it's my, I used to call it my camping, so I would go camping in that. Which one did you? Yep. I apologize, I'm eating on the podcast. I'm pulling the keys and eating a meat stick here. They're pepperettes.

It's a pepper rips. This one's made of kangaroo. Oh, that's sad. Is it the pouch? I don't know what part it is. It's probably just ground kangaroo tail. The pouches would be like, it would be like eating your fucking scrotum.

It's just the roll-up pouch. No. Their pouch would be scrotum adjacent. Like the texture. Like, I get to the batwang. I'm a big fan of game meats. I just love these game, these exotic meat, pepperettes.

so that's why I keep muting and unmuting. What's the most exotic meat you've had? Sorry, I know that's not time for my question. No, hell no. No, please put that out there. I used to keep a list. You know, this might offend some vegetarians if there's any listening. But I firmly believe that if you're going to eat one, you have to eat them all.

Okay. You can't be like, no, this one's different. This one's cute. My only rule is octopus. I don't eat octopus. and that is out of mad respect for those smart little weirdos

what is the weirdest thing I've had I've had crocodile I've had alligator I've had kangaroo I've had the only thing I've never eaten snake which is weird

you think that would be readily available I've had snake hot dog like we did the same thing like at work one year for Christmas I think Side hot dog yes there's a snake side snake hot dog pocket hot dog we ordered these like 10 variety

back hot dogs like they were made out of different meats so one thing that i've always thought about this like dog like i would this sounds bad if the if i was in a country that ate dog and the dog was already prepared like i feel like i would eat it but i would never tell anyone you know what i mean like because i feel like people that's fair that's fair did Like, I've never, I've never had, I just got back from, no, I'm just kidding. I mean, that's what they do in Wisconsin, right? I've never had a cat or dog. If you had a cat, I'd fucking never talk to you again.

Like, I've had horse. That's, that's, that's, yeah, that's on the table. What is the most exotic thing I think I've ever eaten? I've had muscocks. Yep, that's on the table. I've had caribou. You say horse muscocks? Yeah.

No, Keith, not everything is related to dicks. I don't know what a muscox. I don't know what a muskawks is a, geez, I can picture one, but I don't think I can describe it. By the post-adjacent? Yeah, no, it's not. It's more water buffalo adjacent, but like, furry. That's a good question. I think I'd have to, like, go and sit down and write down.

I think you should do the list as a tier list also, like, as you go. And they all taste the same at someone. point. Yeah, that's true. Right? Like, this is, this is a pepperette. They're all the same blanks.

This is a pepperette. So it's going to taste the same as, and it's not necessarily true because I think I've had the same company and I ate rabbit and they were awful. Like, they were just chewy and weird. It's probably like how they seasoned and prepared it. Yeah,

and rabbit in general is bad. Yeah. I think if I'm going to put that out there, rabbit in general is bad. So, yeah. I definitely think, Busscox would probably be the one that I would say was the the hardest to get and the weirdest.

And there's a place up in called Owensound, Ontario. I don't know if it still exists. It was called the Roadkill Cafe. And that was their thing. They brought in weird meats. And I remember being probably, I would say 14 or 15. And my dad took me there.

And I was just like, you can eat these things? So that's where I tried caribou. That's where I tried alligator for the first time. That's where I tried the musk ox. I think I ordered the musk ox stir fry. But it's all meat. So at some point it all starts to taste the same.

Except for alligator. Alligator is salty chicken. There is no way around that. You can't get around it. It is chicken that tastes too salty every time I've ever eaten it. Keith, stay awake. let me know when we get back to the guest he asked me a question

I know I know what's the weirdest animal you've ever eaten Keith or me both okay but you I don't have an answer bison bison yeah exotic as I've ever getting

yeah I think it's funny like even the exotic animals like at least the ones that are readily available that you can, you know, receive in the States, there's only like 10 or 12 of them. You know what I mean? They're even like that wild. So like that variety pack of sausages we ordered at the firehouse that one year for Christmas would be included in that? Like when somebody was like, hey, we're going to have exotic meats for Christmas,

I thought we were going to get like a tiger hot dog and like, you know what I mean? Like jaguar paws and like, you know, just like the wildest stuff you could think of. But it was like the same stuff. It was like kangaroo, gator, bison, you know, all those kind of things, like stuff that's not at your typical restaurant. We also have a restaurant called Game in Louisville, Kentucky, and they kind of do the same thing. Like, they have, like, exotic meats. And you can actually order, like, certain things, like, seared. So I think that would probably be the way to do it.

Like, if you want to actually taste the meat. Like, as a steak, right? Right. The ground is ground. Correct. Right. So. Oh,

I've had bear. Did I include that? I've had bear. I've had tiger meat. That's exotic, right? You've had tiger meat? It's a, yeah.

Oh, in Sioux Falls. Okay, got you. Like the Midwestern tiger meat. Yeah, yeah, I was like, you've had real tiger meat?

I mean, it's just real as tron. I think you're going to be on a list somewhere. Yeah, that sounds illegal as shit. Yeah. Tanner and Tron bought it. I didn't do.

I just, I just consumed it. No, it's just, uh, that's funny who's beeping not i it's me hopefully not you beeper all right brandon i got one for you here um okay kind of over shit where do i lose it hold on give me sick all right there we go so one of your buddies had written uh as one of your well under your hobbies basically it's just like

uh i'm just gonna i'm just gonna read it verbatim because it's kind of can segue into you responding so uh the importance of strength training in emergency services and why not staying strong is a betrayal of one's oath is that something you firmly believe in i'm assuming and it's kind of calling out all your buddies that uh kind of let themselves go once they've been on the job yeah so it is a daily thing that uh at work you know what i mean so our our shift works from we get in to work at seven a m i mean if you're a piece of crap you get there at seven a m if you are a good fireman you get there at 615 630 you know relieve the guy ahead of you so you worked there from 7 a.m. in the morning until 7 a.m. the next day. In that 24-hour period, we might go on

eight calls, 10 calls at the most, right? And so, and each call is going to average anywhere between five minutes, like we're going to get canceled as soon as we roll out the door, to at most, if it's a structure fire, which happens twice a month, you know, like we're going to be there for four. So on average, we have about 20 hours of that. day to do with what we want. If you take eight hours away from that, you know what I mean? That's 12 hours to now do with whatever you want. Like, it's like you're at home. You know what I mean? And we have a fully kidded out gym. It has all rogue stuff. We have functional trainers. We have leg press machine. We have, you know, 1,500 pounds of plates and dumbbells that go up to 120s. So,

like, that's my biggest thing, especially when we have a new guy coming the door. I'm like, don't be that piece of shit like it doesn't like do your job like that's the one thing and i think hopefully you guys is tax playing citizens and respective countries that you live in you expect that if you call for your house being on on fire that you're going to have some like at least somewhat strong dudes or or girls strong people coming who are in shape like who know what to do right so sorry i get very passionate about this because i know you should absolutely I preach it every third day when I'm at work. And it sounds really corny.

Like the whole like, remember your oath thing. Like it is really stupid. It's really corny. But it also sticks in people's heads. You know what I mean? Because like, and I'm a little bit more blunt at work.

I'm like, don't be a piece of shit. You know what I mean? Like do your job. Like, and it's also that kind of like that blue collar tradition anyways. Like you're expected to be called out like if you're doing bad. You know what I mean? And not that I think at other jobs they do it just in a nicer way.

but like in my job it's like you're you're doing pretty shitty like you need to do better you know what I mean you're fat like you know like so it's it's just kind of the culture we work so yeah that's I'm not sure who wrote that down I can probably guess I can uh when we're over remind me because now I have a way to like just send you a link to everything submitted and by who just remind me to do that in the next couple days because I'm not going to do it tonight but thanks Nate for making are my new website significantly easier to do everything, basically. Good old Nate GBT and or Tom. All right. I'm assuming, did you, you had to play football on high school, right? And you basically have the look of a tight end. So no, I did not. I play. That's a, that's a football position,

not a bedroom position. So I went to a small private school and I graduated with I think there was 26 of us in my graduating class. So just as far as like the resources of the school, we didn't have the resources to have a football team. We had a basketball team. I played on that through my freshman year of high school. But then at that point, it was kind of like, I'm not really good. I'm just kind of awkward and sitting on the bench every game. The tall third string center.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, I could count on one hand how many baskets I made. And then so lifting as a hobby kind of well I guess so you said let's say you're in your I know you're in your mid to like 30s and you said you've been in the the you know in the you've been a firefighter for what 17 years so yeah basically since you were a baby like so that's wild so you got into that like in your early 20s on right or even yeah so I was 20 years old when I got hired and I actually before that I started as a volunteer firefighter. So when I was basically like right around my 18 came involved. We're literally a career firefight. Like so you. Wow.

That is like you've done nothing else basically. Yeah. Well, and it's funny. Other than that, so I've been working since I was 14 years old. Oh, yeah. So like I was doing like,

I worked at like an ice cream parlor and I worked at staples for like putting office furniture together. And you know what I mean? Like just really odds and ends jobs. until I became a volunteer firefighter. I was in college and like right when I started and throughout me being a volunteer, I was in college and then like a job came available

and I was just like, yeah, that sounds better. Like I'm not going to make a million dollars a year, but it's also like there is something to like having something fulfilling. You know what I mean? So I think that's, I don't know, I think that was more appealing to me at the time. It still is because at least, at the end of the day, at least have it at somewhat early retirement, you know, and I'll be able to do something different. I mean, I'll retire early and I'm doing something completely different. Consulting to fire departments.

Yeah. Yeah, that does happen often. Oh, I know. That's how they get you. Every single one of them that comes in says, yeah, that's how they get you. They get you as a consultant. Yeah, absolutely. see that.

Geez, there's, at first I was reading your notes and I didn't see a lot. Now I'm just seeing a ton. And of course, that's my bad. One thing that came up more than one, rain energy drinks. Oh, okay. Like rain? Yeah, so it's funny because it has to be guys from work because it would be my guess. I guess it could be my wife.

but like rainbow sherbert energy drink like rain energy drinks that is like the i feel like that's like the pinnacle flavor for me and i don't know why like i like i like white monsters i like all those flavors but those and they're super sweet and like at first what i i want to say when i first tried it i didn't really like it so it's definitely like grown on me yeah but now i'm i'll just like leave those stock to the fridge and like on the way to work i'll just grab one so people see me every day with one and that that's probably why it's come up so much interesting have you tried the ghost arnold palmer the lemonade iced tea mix i have not how is that damn i don't i i have i hate iced tea it's just one of those things i've always hated it yeah yeah i know i know

i drank a lot of tea and and and actually one of the funniest things that ever happened was i was filling my water at costco and somebody was like oh are you going to steal some of ice tea while you're doing it. And I was like, I'd be so fucking mad if any ice tea made its way into my water right now. Like, I'd be so mad. Yeah. You're okay with urinal piss, but not iced tea. Oh, I never answered that question. And, uh, but, um, yeah, that drink is incredible. I'll put that in list for sure. Yeah. Nice. I'll keep an eye on for that. I preach the bubblelicious. I preach the, all the other ghosts. Bucked up is making their way. Geez, bucked up is decided they're going to do every flavor under

the earth. I've never tried, but I've had their pre-workout. Yeah. The powder for them, but I've never tried, like, and they put velv, they put deer antler velvet in their pre-workout down there in the States. Up here in Canada, they don't. Isn't that, wouldn't that, like, make you piss hot

in certain tests? Because, wasn't there a whole thing where, like, Ray Lewis, like, got, like, one of the things the NFL sort of testing for was, like, fucking deer velvet in people's urine and stuff. So, like, I'd think that would be bad for, for, Well, it's a good thing. I'm not competing tested.

But yeah, their energy drinks are 300 milligrams, too. Yes. It is super high. I drink half one of those. Jesus, yours. Yeah, so I'll drink all, like, and that's kind of like,

I kind of look at my, like, daily intake of caffeine. And before I drank energy drinks, I had an entire pot of coffee. Oh, my God. So it's kind of like, you know, like, at that point, switch to an, I mean, like at that point, like it can't be that much worse. So why not? But yeah, I am more like cautious now. Like I'm like especially like if I've had one like maybe not have any more or if like I'll even get to the point like if I start another one late in the day like I'll put half of it in the fridge for in the morning. You know what I mean? So it's just kind of like I don't know. I don't know my heart to explode this early. You know? Like it's got to be a cool way. I started measuring too and it's like a coffee in the morning.

and then my window of energy drink is 1 to 3 p.m. Again, I'm 40. So, like, that's my window of energy drink. And if I miss it, then I don't get one. It's gone. That's fine. Yeah, because then I'll be up till 2 in the morning, right? Doing other stuff.

But with the 300 milligrams, you're just like, I got to have it at 1 or 130. Anything else I'm going to be up all night. Ghost is 200. I think rain is 1.8. to 200. I'm not sure of the American ones. A ghost, I think, is 200. Yeah, ghost is 200 for you guys.

In Canada, it's 180. Okay. We have rules against anything. But I think monsters only are like 160 or something. Yeah, it's closer to, yeah, it's 150-ish. I try not to do more than 150 in a sitting. Yeah, it's definitely a bad idea. I just started taking was like, you know, the Eric Bouganagan, like the Psycho Pharma

stuff? Yeah. I just started taking that. And it's, I didn't realize until. I started taking it. It's 350 per scoop. And so now I cut it to like a quarter scoop because I've already had an energy drink. Oh, my God.

And you're still doing pre? Oh, yeah. Like, you know, you got to get a little bit in you. So before you work out. When I did the bucked up order that I did, I ordered the non-stem pre. Oh, yeah. Right? So I'm okay with that.

But even I still want to do like a three-quarter. quarter scoop because yeah the beta alan means I don't like the tingles I appreciate the tingles right thank you for being here

if you time it wrong I don't like them yeah that happens often at work we'll take our pre-work out and then we will get called to do something oh no and it's like it's never like you get that

like cool structure fire then where you need the extra adrenaline it is always like you got to pick grandma up out of bed or something you know it's which we're never complaining

and you're just vibrating when your face is on fire, you know what I mean? Like, that's like the last thing you want to do is just be nice, this sweet old lady. I need to curl grandma. Yeah, exactly. These tingles out. Yeah. Oh, geez.

A big comic book guy? Yeah. So I, I grew up, you know, like pre-comic book movies and things like that. I guess the Toby McGuire Spider-Man early 2000s. Yeah, that's like old one or something. high school and i'd already had a fairly decent amount of spider-man comic books at the time and i do remember watching like those the values like shoot up in those comic books and that was like the first time i'm like i should probably like put these in a box you know what i mean like um i also before

that was into like collecting like sports cards really big in the 90s at least where i live like basketball cards and i'm sure you all remember like pogs no yeah and and uh yeah so i had like a pog and collection but yeah the comic books I don't I don't actively buy comic books anymore but I also am not like ready to let them go I probably have

a couple thousand you know just kind of stored away like and not all of them are yeah I don't people that like have stored stuff like in their childhood home and it just like wasn't in a like weatherproof thing and it's like being in a thousand degree attic for 10 years and it's just

like destroyed yeah they're there they're definitely like so i've i've revisited that hobby in a way of at least to like preserve those things and like so like they're all in like proper storage boxes with like the proper moisture nice whatever those tablets are that collect moisture like that so they're in a safe spot but i'm just yeah i'm just kind of like holding them on to them like an investment and are you not hope that your kids will want to fuck with them in someday maybe and yeah possibly like it's more too that like it could just be that it's the rainy day fund like you never know what happens in your life and maybe they're not worth that much but uh you know maybe i'll

have to sell them one day and they'll be worth more to be then than anything so i'm gonna have to pull mine out i still have the crow first 10 i think that i'm missing is is number two and i couldn't find it. I went to multiple comic book conventions trying to find number two or whatever one I don't have and you just can't. Yeah and like people don't want to get rid of

stuff like that and like especially like those movies or those comic books that like they have movies like new movies coming out like they're going to people are going to hold on to them. Yeah. Until like that's done like because it's such a big part of like pop culture nowadays. Yeah. I've got Spider-Man 299.

I've got the re-release of first one as well somewhere i'm surprised they've never made like a movie of those because those were the comics themselves were they were well he was in the the oh the the animated one right yeah yeah yeah right keith we got to get into a game soon it's been too yeah i know i know um i was having fun i'm sorry no i well i think we yeah our general topics we just we all kind of enjoyed that um i'll hit you with an fmk then we can kind of circle back to thing that jumps out at us. I just now actually got to some embarrassing stories

that we'll probably got to talk about. So, all right, FMK, I'm going to go with firefighting movies. I'm sure you're familiar with these since, you know, you spend 20 hours of Jason on your ass. You ought to be able to watch some firefighting movies, right? That's right. So you got an FMK, I'm sure you're familiar with that game. So

back draft, only the brave, ladder 49. Oh, okay, this is good. So out of those three movies, There's one that I think is pretty excellent. There's one that I think, and then the other two, like, are good for their own reasons. All right, so I'll say that.

So let's start with F. I'm going to, I'm going to F ladder 49, because I think it's a really well put together movie with good actors. It portrays the fire service well in a good light. but I also think it's not super practical, like how the operation would have been. But, again, I know, like, it's kind of like a nurse watching, like, a hospital drama. You know what I mean? Like, it's not going to be accurate, like, and none of it is. But which one is, like, the most entertaining?

I think that one's pretty entertaining. So, latter four. Mary, I'm going to go with Only the Brave, with the caveat of I've only watched that movie one time, and I never plan to watch it again. because it's just like it's the saddest fuck so like i i don't want to spoil i guess anyway i watched it not knowing the real story and just thinking it was going to be a good action movie i bawled like a fucking baby at the end of that because i didn't know it was coming i did not know that was coming and that was devastating it was gun-brinching oh so sorry to ruin it spoilers for everybody

but but it that one is like i'll marry that but i'll never watch it again because it's Like, just being in the fire service at the time when that happened, like, it was a big deal. And then that came out, you know, so. And then I'm going to kill Backdraft, not because I don't think it's, like, excellent and corny in its own way. Like, it's a Ron Howard film. Like, it's a, it's a well put together, like, early 90s movie. It's pretty cool. Like, there's a cool soundtrack.

Like, there's montages, like, all that early 90s stuff. But I'm going to kill it because, A, I've seen it a ton of times. And, B, it is just incredibly corny. so I'm going to kill that one. But that was a good FMK. That's really good. Good answer. Would you say there is a better alternative?

Like, what is your, is there, am I missing a firefighter movie that should have been on that list? Tacoma FD. Yeah. So Tacoma FD is really funny. And it's funny, like, you could take, I think you could put them in space. Like, you know what I mean? Like, like, like, the broken lizard. Yeah.

And it would be funny. So I don't know if it's funny because or in spite of it being in, you know, you know, You know what I mean in the fire service? But yeah, I'm going to go with that's like the ultimate firefighter culture too. Like it's it is true like we we play pranks on each other all day. We mess around, you know, like that's that is the tradition in the fire service. So it's by design. Like it makes us all closer and all better performing in our jobs, you know, and it builds trust and all that other stuff.

Part of me has always wished that that was like what it's really like. because it seems so fun and so, you know, cohesive. Yeah, so in good firehouses, you will see people together. Like, the worst thing they did in the fire service, I think, and this, sorry, I know this isn't a firefighting podcast, but the worst thing they did was they started building dorm rooms separate. You know, and a lot of times now it makes sense just, you know, having male and females, having all this other stuff. Like, it makes sense having separate dorm rooms, but back when everybody was in the same room, so you had no choice, to be around these people. So that just built that extra camaraderie.

You know, like people would give you shit for being on your phone all the time. Or they'd give you shit like when you're not training or working out. And, you know, so I think that just goes a long way. Just like the Greeks. There you go. Oh, that jokes. Somebody's going to nail that and call me out in the Discord then. And it'll be worth it.

Mount Rushmore time. Okay. Now, there's a lot of good ones here, so I might do two. Okay. This one's going to hurt some feelings. Your Mount Rushmore of Crew Home Gym. Yeah. So I actually, I wrote this one, I remember.

And at the time, I was consuming a lot of, I actually took the certified training facility map, and I went through and kind of like cross-reference them with some Instagram, followers I have and I was I was like man which gym like I must have had like a free after a hit or something because it's been too much time on this which gym would I prefer to work out in or you know that sets my like my training style which is more power lifting style but I also do you know I still like the occasional like bro workout you know what I mean where I just go get a pump and like you know like so I'm not like against machines by any means but I just I don't have the space for machines I don't have

that kind of thing. So I have somewhat prepared for this. I will say it's not what I thought it was going to be, because I thought I was just going to go for just the aesthetics, whereas now it's kind of like, no, maybe it is like a certain style. So Mount Rushmore, I'm going to go with, first of all, big Robos, Jim.

Yeah. Hell yeah. Yep. So as far. In its current status, because in his, His current status, because I think he's put like 15 grand in it in the last, like, six months. Yeah, honestly. You don't want to listen on his ethos wreck that he just sold a couple months ago.

But now he's got like a fucking, a row and he just got a 74 cables on it. Yes. And it's funny because like any, I want to qualify this that every gym I've ever seen on the certified training facility, I would be happy to work out in. Like, I haven't seen a bad one yet. You know what I mean? Then I'm like, oh, that's a piece of shit. I wouldn't work out there. That's mine.

Mine's the piece of shit. No, no. I can find value in a barbell and plates. You know what I mean? So it's like this is just, you know, there's a lot of stuff I'm not going to spend a crazy amount of money on. Like I have a Titan power rack. You know what I mean? Just because it's like I can't tell the difference between Chinese steel and American steel personally. So, you know, there is something to buy in America. I get that or buying it from Canada or North America or wherever. So Robo's Jim. Then I'm going to kind of flip it on. it's eared a little bit, I am going to go a perfect little sweetie's gym. Yep. Just for that change in aesthetics, something different. I like the unique things on the wall, especially a lot of that is very specific to his Midwestern town. Like, you know what I mean?

Like there is sports teams memorabilia from Sioux Falls or from, you know, wherever. So we're going to give that to him. That's a horse cock and gym for sure. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. That the best louvered windows I've ever seen. Yeah.

The next one I'm going to do, because I couldn't actually choose between these two at first. And that was between Noe-Hose and Baseman Brandon. Just because this is like, I feel like you can't, I don't want to pick both of them because it's like they're both so incredibly nice. And like, even if I had that money, I just, you know, a lot of them, I'm sure they got for different reasons. but I'm going to go ahead and go Noah Jose just for the fact that he has that full Aleko power lifting setup and he has all those

prime fitness machines so I mean there's it's a pretty crazy gym how many square foot is your gym key 700 square foot how many oranges fit in your gym

7 feet at 700 square feet someone can do that math so let's go because I was debating I actually had the no wine cellar I don't have to be on the list I know I'm not actually good if you like training with people you know and so yeah I mean that's true all right I'm gonna go last choice I'm gonna go with Hogan's gym okay it's a good one yeah and I just really like I like how he has everything in there just like in perfect spots I I don't know. And I'm sure a lot of these people do. I just haven't seen their gyms as much, but everything has its place. And I think that's really cool. Honorable mention, we'll do Kevin, because I watched this video today. And the Dilf Dungeon and the No Wine Cellar. Those are all the mentions. Hogan's gym is, like, surprisingly, like, it is a legit one-stall girl. It is, when I walked into it, like, he makes it look a lot bigger on video than it really is, if you, you know. But it's, and they can comfortably get through people in there, but it's, it's surprisingly, it's like not a lot of squirrel. footage.

Well, maybe one day we'll we'll get a tour of some of those other gyms. Yeah. Yeah. I got to do a couple. What do you got? No, I thought this one was really funny, considering your line of work.

And if you don't have an answer, just whoever put this in, make sure you give them shit. Okay. Mount Rushmore of serial killers. Oh, okay. And I want to know Yeah.

Why? Oh, it's because I'm a serial. I'm just kidding. It is, it's one of those things that we have a fascination with as like a culture, but at the same time, like we shouldn't because these are bad people. And I just thought it would be really funny to have a firefighter who's probably going to respond to one of these at some point in time. Please tell me.

Yeah. okay so let's see who's my favorite murderer um there's the episode title i'm gonna use that to Nate right now um so I'm gonna work good on the algorithm I kind of got into kind of like big Tommy listens to some of those true crime podcasts in the past I kind of did that for quite a bit and I feel like a lot maybe that like this was the same time they were making all of those and documentaries and stuff about serial killers. So it was like there had to be a connection there. But I'm going to go with Ted Bundy.

I can't remember the, Ed Kemper is his name. Because his stories. Temper is Edward Temper. What is it? Edward Temper. Yeah. Okay. So his story is like,

Kempter, isn't it? I thought it was Kempter too. But I'll double check because the devil has a song about him. oh okay so he might have changed it to temper to oh yeah it's yeah it's yeah the show I watched it was like uh the Netflix shows I think yes actually just got renewed it just you just got renewed too I think oh that was gone for like it was gone for like five years and then I think they're just now getting signed off what was the name of that uh yeah that's the tricky question yeah I know because it's been gone so long because it was like it was like a

it was like a flash in the pan and an older FBI agent and uh like they had like real life like they you know i think the whole premise was like he was in you know creating like just like you know the whole subgenre like you know getting in the heads of fucking people and stuff uh for it is camber yep yep that's interesting and i'm sure you've heard about that i don't want to go into any details with that one's pretty wild let's it yeah um then i'm going to add the btk killer uh which i can't remember his real name I'll find out. Give me a second.

Temper, right? Is it temper? Yeah. Dennis Raider. Dennis Raider. Yes. That one is very eerie. Again, I won't go in any details, but it's very eerie because it, there's no more guy, like,

dad next door type of person that there could be. The guy was like a Boy Scout leader. He was highly involved in his church. You know what I mean? Like there's a, it's just a odd like scenario. And there was also a large gap in his killing. Like he killed a bunch of people in the 80s and then he stopped for like 15 years or something. So that's also scary.

You know, he could just start and stop. And then let's see for my last one. I'm going to go and I'm going to kind of go a little crazy on this one. I'm going to go Jack the Ripper for the last one just because, oh, yeah. Screw Jack the Ripper. Screw it. I don't want to do that one. So weird point about Jack the Ripper.

Yeah. There was a guy in my hometown. Okay. Who was being, I don't know if he was being hanged or being convicted. And who admitted to being Jack the Ruff. Oh, wow. Yeah. And we don't know the veracity of that.

Yeah. But like there are strong ties to that guy and his time in London. that there was a chance that Jack the Ripper was killed here in my city. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, it's wild. It's wild. So he might be on your list now.

But I'm actually going to change that. Can I do that? Do I have my brothers to change it? I'm going to change it to the Zodiac killer. Of course, of course. I think the Zodiac killer, it's still like an open investigation. And I think that's super cool after all these years. And yeah, and the movie, the Zodiac movie is actually pretty excellent.

So would you rate that, Keith? Have you seen that? Probably a six or six. I mean, yes, I think I watched, like, three of them in, like, the same couple years. Because there was a couple of shitty, like, lower budget ones. Oh, okay. I think there was a Jake Gyllenhaal, I think, was like, Robert Down Jr.'s in it. Yeah, it was probably a seven, which is a good rating.

That's like an 11 for you. Yeah, basically. All right, I want to do a couple other things, and we can get into, unpaid or underrated but just because a couple things kind of won't fit into unpaid or underrated so I want to just touch on them first so what is the story

did you rip your cab as a kid and it's something to do with a scar or something with initials there's this old story there someone submitted oh yeah that makes sense to you yeah that does make sense

so I was 13 years old and I was on my BMX bike and I was with my buddy Chris we're riding through our neighborhood and we were just like jolting on our bikes as fast as we can go. And all I remember then is I woke up and Chris is

like crying over me and I looked down and I could see the bone in my left leg like, you know, basically like my tibia when I looked down. And I just remember thinking, man, my bone and my leg is so white. Like it's such like a clean

white color. You and you fucking firefighters and breaking bones. Yeah. Well, he didn't bring the bone. He took the muscle from the bone. Exactly. So it was actually like the, not necessarily my calf, but like more like the front of my leg and then a little bit. Tibialis? What do you call this?

Yeah, it's like your tibialis muscle. There's no muscles there. Yeah, there is. There's a little, they even have a little trainer that you can buy. Dude, if you've never done a tip raise, it's like the most like, wow, that is a muscle I don't ever stretch. Yeah, that's the one where you like, you sit down and you put the kettlebell on your. Yeah, basically. your foot and yeah yeah i did those were the first time a couple weeks ago i fucking love those

they really help my also strengthen your yeah they strengthen your ankles and your knees quite a bit to yeah i have one you can literally just lay in bed and kind of just like just bring your toes up and kind of hold it it it's almost replicates it like a body weight version i should use that as an excuse of why i can't squat 600 pounds yet i mean if i was if i was if i was six four two seventy five and all fucking you know built like a brick shit out I could probably swap 600. You could, for sure. You know, I can squat 600 if I was stronger.

It's easy. Yep, you just got to try harder. You just got to do it. You just got to try someone else's hardest, right? So, either way, that was the first time I've ever rode in an ambulance. So there you go, was to go to the little children's trauma center and get son. And there is one thing you and I share, and I'm not sure your level of this. Um, you're really good at naming actors and actresses and movies they were in.

Now, yeah, that's, I, I'm fairly convinced it's because I have autism, but I can hear somebody in like a cartoon or a movie and go, I know that guy. He was in, and then I'll have to pull up my phone and IMDB it. Yeah, I can do the same. Yeah. Yeah. That's wild. Yeah. And my wife. So it happens a lot at work, like, because we'll watch.

you know, at nighttime, almost to a T. It's rare that we don't watch a movie as a crew together at nighttime. Of course. And when there's a character come on, they're like, that guy looks familiar. And I'd be like, yeah, his name's blah, blah, blah. And they're like, there's no way you know that guy's name. And they'll look like, he really does know his name.

So I don't know what, maybe it is, is something with me that I just retain that information. And it's a weird thing because it's such a useless. skill. It has nothing to do with real life. But I'll turn to Morgan, my wife, and I'll be like, no, I know that voice. Like, I'll be watching a weird anime from somewhere. And I'm like, no, no, no, I know that. And I'll have to Google it sometimes.

But I'm like, oh, that's who that is. Yeah. Yeah. It's a useless talent. But it's also one I'm fine having, you know. I think they call them it. It's a party trick. I think they call it.

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. It's not a cool party trick either. It's like, you're still a nerd at the end of day. Yeah, exactly. They were in this business. That's crazy that he knows that. That fucking geek knows that.

Yeah. By the way, I'm really proud I knew that. I bet you are, you're fucking nerd. All right. Keith, you want to jump in unpaid and underrated? Yeah. Brandon,

are you familiar with unpaid or underrated? A game we play over here. I hate that I can't see you right now. I hate it. I do not want to hold my phone up. you don't. I'm so familiar with it. I tried to play it during your last game. For anyone, for any newer listener, you explain to them the game that we were playing and how we play it. Yes. So you're going to give me a series of topics, and I'm going to rate those topics either unpaid or underrated.

Unpaid, meaning not that cool because you're not getting paid for it. And underrating, it means it could be, or I definitely view it as a, is higher. Like, I enjoy that. Could be held in higher regard. There we go. That's a better way of saying. All right. That's fair. So.

I've always wanted to say that. That's good. Do you hold yourself in higher regard that now that you have? No. Okay. Unpaid or underrated being a heavy sleeper. Oh, I'm going to go with, I'm assuming hopefully somebody, didn't put that I am a heavy sleep I don't know everything submitted about it was not

positive towards you it was all negative that you actually I actually at some point and then there's and then there's funny stories that need to segue from you can not be woken up by your wife really interesting that's uh you've slept through many of that you've slept through many a storm and uh maybe a couple calls okay so this is I don't know what they're talking I don't remember any of this. Yeah. No, I'm going to be honest. That's not true.

So I actually have really bad. Accessibility short times. I have trouble going to sleep. Making laptops talking to me. Oh, okay. So I actually have sleeping trouble. Like, I don't fall asleep at night. And I've also never missed a run or a call at work.

So I know it's people messing with you, unfortunately. The ruin and the podcast, Keith. So I'm going to say, But this doesn't ruin it because I have such sleeping issues that I'm going to say being a heavy sleeper is underrated because I'm not a heavy sleeper. I really wish that I was. So that's the one, that's the easily the worst thing about my job is my sleep quality is just awful. Yeah, it's not like you can just like pop melatonin because then you're going to be fucking like dead on the call. Right.

I'm sure you're going to have rules against like that, I'd imagine to some extent. Don't take a sleep and pill dumbass, like your own call for 24 hours. Exactly. So, yeah, we just, we don't. You just stay up if you're, if you can't sleep. But, and then it, it trickles into at home, too. Like, I don't, I don't sleep with. I mean, do you do, do you do all the easy stuff, though?

Do you have, like, do you have an eye mask? Do you have a sound machine? Do you have, like, you do the basic shit that, like, injury level to sleep better? Yeah. Yeah. I don't do the eye mask thing just because I can't possibly have anything on me while I'm sleeping. Oh, God, no. Yeah.

I almost can't, but I, like, I, like, You know, I had one from years ago where I had to share a room with someone who would watch the TV all night. And so I'd put an eye mask on just to, like, make it completely black. It didn't help a lot. But a sound machine, if anyone doesn't sleep with a sound machine and, like, ever complains about, like, hearing little noises or, like, I don't know, sound machines are the best invention ever for sleeping in my opinion. Yeah. All right. So, unpaid or underrated, EMS.

Oh, EMS is unpaid. So it's not from a, like, I'm glad. Like, I'm glad that service exists 100%. But how it exists, at least in my community. And I don't think hopefully anybody from work is going to listen to this at an upper level. I just don't think... Big Anthony is listening. I'm sure this is current doctor.

And what is the MS? It's the emergency medical service. Oh, okay. Thank you. So the ambulance. So as far as the service and the workers, the best ever. I've yet to see an EMS service in my area that's been ran to where they don't just sacrifice the employees like fingers to the bone. So that's why I'm going to say unpaid on EMS.

But as a service, I would not say that. You know, like as far as what their job is to do, like when you're sick, you call them and they take you the hospital. I think that's a great service. I just think it's just not, it's definitely ran with dollar signs in mind and not patient's well-being. So flavor, flavor's right. Oh, that's another reference. I'm going to call that one. Okay.

Go ahead, Kay. Unpaid or underrated eating out at restaurants. Ooh, I'm going to say that a lot of people are you all going to, maybe disagree with me. That's okay. Unpaid eating out at restaurants. The things that I consume at home are fairly consistent. I eat like maybe 10 different things, and I can cook them how I like them, you know, whether that is a rib-eye steak or that is a chicken breast or, you know, whatever.

I know it's going to be consistent in the same every time, whereas every other time I go to the same restaurant, my meal is going to be completely different, you know. And that's not, I'm not going to, it could be anything down to like it just took us longer to get home from the restaurant. It was takeout or, you know, whatever. So I would almost always rather save money and eat at home than eat out. So, like, even on, like, my birthday, like, Emily will be like, hey, where do you want to go eat for your birthday? I'm like, just buy a couple of steaks for me.

You know, I'll cook some steaks. Like, that's, yeah. So we did have a, I think a couple of people said had steak under your hobbies and or, you know, the set or the other. So you have to eat one steak for the rest of your life. What's the cut? Oh, yeah. that's good um i guess that's a hard question like because then you then you go with one that has to be somewhat healthy so scratch that okay you your birthday steak what are you eating okay so

birthday steak i would i would get like a porterhouse you know like a big uh like 30 ounce steak probably and which it's i say i would not that not that ever do but i'm just saying like if if i had my druthers to order anything off the menu for free then I would get, yeah, something like that. Like a nice. Medium rare? Medium rare always. Perfect.

Perfect. Actually, I go medium, I lot. But sometimes medium rar is a little too rare. At restaurants, I do medium because I know they're going to fuck it up and do medium rear anyway. Yeah, for the most part. At restaurants, I always order one up every time because, yeah, they're going to fuck it up. Cool, beans. My turn?

Yeah, buddy. Unpaid or underrated cucumbers. Oh, cucumbers are unpaid. So cucumbers are one of those things. If you take a cucumber and you put it in a jar and you fill it up with vinegar and let it sit for a long time, I love cucumbers because I love pickles. I, for some reason, I don't know what it is if it's texture or something like that. I despised cucumbers because I really enjoy Taziki sauce. And that's like, what, 85% cucumber?

So I don't know where the disconnect is there. It must be a texture thing or, you know. Mouthfeel. Yeah, mouth feel for sure. So I'm going to go unpaid for sure on cucumbers. The same way with mushroom. Yeah. Give me mushroom flavor to anything.

Put a mushroom in my mouth. I'm going to fucking lose it. Yeah. Yeah. I totally get it. I get it. Like even for our wedding. So when Emily and I got married, we had a fairly large wedding just because of all my firefighter friends.

There was 200-something people there, and we were, like, figuring out what we were going to eat for dinner that night, or, you know, at the wedding. And we had these salad options. I'm like, not to get too many details. One of them had cucumbers. And I was like, oh, yeah, I think everybody would like this one the most because it's, like, the most generic salad here. You know, nothing too crazy. And Emily was even like, no, pick the one you want. It's your wedding.

Like, so, of course, I got the one without cucumbers, but that's how much I hated it. to, I did not sacrifice my decision for anyone else. So a weird thing my dad discovered, and he's done this for years because he grows, we have a big garden, the whole house is a garden at some point. If it's not pickled, do you ever take cucumbers, put them in vinegar and water with little pepper and let them soak for like 24 hours, and that's okay? Or do they have to be pickles? Yeah, they have to be pickles.

That is also, though, I'm saying that with some of the, who's never tried that. So maybe I should try that. It doesn't change the consistency. So I don't know if that would fix it. But I wonder if that would like, your brain would be like, no, that's okay because it's different. Right.

Interesting. I've also, it's gotten somewhat better as I've aged as far as like, I would gag in my, you know, 10 years ago. But now I feel like I'd just be like, oh, that's a cucumber. You know, I'd kind of politely spit it out and move on. And how do you feel about zucchini? I like zucchini. Wild. I hate zucchini because of the mouth feel.

Yeah, I like zucchini. But I will say I usually consume zucchini roasted, not fresh. So maybe that has a lot to do with it. Unpaid or underrated. Trap bar deadlifts. I'm going to go unpaid. Now, see, this is where I wish line riding would be okay. because it's kind of like one of those things like for most people right so like for me

I am comfortable deadlifting I don't get with a straight bar I don't get back pain from a straight bar I feel like I progress well with the straight bar I get stronger gradually and how I should be if I didn't have those things like or if I was more untrained I guess I am not saying that I'm like super trained I'm just saying I've at least trained the deadlift enough then I would probably utilize the trap bar quite a bit. For me, though, I feel like it is unpaid, you know, just because I have no room for it in my programming. So now, again, there's a guy on my shift that I give quite a bit of shit to because we do. Yep, that's why it's here.

Yeah. So the reason is, is because we, and there's probably no context with this, but we do a challenge. It's literally like SBD PR board at the firehouse, which is kind of cool because it's, you know, six dudes on every shift times three shifts. So there's lots of names up there. And on his deadlift, he always puts his trap bar. And it's not because he's bullshit. I know. And he uses the high handles too.

Like he uses the high handles. That's a squat. That's a squat at that. Exactly. Right. I can pull well over 500 pounds on that. Right. So if.

I cannot do that normally. If he had a problem, like, for example, like, we have some guys at work there 60 years old. Like, if they're going to use a trap bar and put their 320 pound deadlift max up there, I'm not going to be upset about that because they're like 60 years old. This kid's 25 and he knows how to deadlift with a straight bar. So it's like, yeah, no, he's just, he wants to put the higher number up there. So that's why I'm like, nah, man, trap bars suck. So I definitely lay into him a lot harder with the trap bar.

but for most people I'm not going to give any crap to you. Yeah, no, I don't count my trap bar as my biggest deadlifts. It's like, can I pull 500 pounds on that? Yeah, but I don't have a 500 pound deadlift. So that's stupid. He's a dumbass. I maintain to this day that the trap bar is a squat accessory. Absolutely.

It's not an actual deadlift. It's a squat accessory to help you build your squat. But what the fuck do I know? Uh, last one, unpaid or underrated? Metal Gear Solid. Oh, that's a good one. Underrated, Metal Gear Solid. Big Gary would also agree with me on this.

I think many of conversations or at least a couple of your solid. It's funny, I don't know how common knowledge of Middle Gear Solid even is, because I'll bring it up around some friends. And a lot of people have just still never heard of it. So maybe it's a product of my time growing up with the PlayStation 1, you know, and you played it. That was snake, right? Where, like, you climbed through, like, the fucking air,

the air duct tunnels and had to, like, stealth kill people. Yeah, that's when you were solid or solid or liquid snake. Yeah, so the first one, well, the first one came out, like, on the NES, like, years ago. And then they made Metal Gear Solid, which came out on PlayStation 1, and that had Solid Snake. That was probably the one that, like, really put that name on the map, though, the Metal Gear Solid name. And then they've had several games since then.

They're also remaking. There was a third one called Snake Eater that it's getting a remake right now. So it's coming out on the PlayStation December, I believe. So that'll be pretty cool to watch out for. Yeah, that was one of the first games ever that like really messed with you. Yes. So there was a, yeah, go ahead. You would face Psycho Mantis.

I remember Psycho Mantis. And if your controller was plugged into Controller 1, he could read what you were doing. and then you would get the hint well plug it into controller two and that's wild that that game would have that amount of programming yeah i remember watching my brother play it and he was like i'm so frustrated

and then he was like wait a minute and he did the thing into the controller two and that's how he finally beat psychomantus because he was reading your mind through the controller one port yeah that's that's insane it's wild like it even uh like there's another part two in that first game where you can get a lot of hints and tricks if you know it like the

codec who you call like you're basically your radio system's called the codec and there's a specific frequency that you don't know and eventually someone gives you a hint like look on the back of your your your your game case for the code and like you literally have to look on the back and there's like one of those like stock image photos of like the codec and it has a random code you go in and manually type that in and then it takes you to this other person who can give you a bunch of hints in the game yeah that's just cool like yeah that they had that like breaking the fourth wall moment back in the no 1997 well i think you passed on bait and underrated we did well to hear this one i guess yep i do have to pee um yes so i'm going to do that

but then it's your turn to ask us questions awesome i will let's see brandon how did uh what do you uh what are you thinking for crew crew falls is that something you're seriously considering or just something you kind of dablin yeah so uh me and uh brobo and myself or james uh have actually talked about it too like um i texted him the other day i was like hey so we doing this crew falls thing he's like i'm in if you're in so It's kind of cool to have, yeah. So I'm hoping that we can swing it. So it's usually the same week-ish as my daughter's birthday.

So like last year, it was like that definitely was going to happen because it was like the day basically of her birthday. So this year, though, it might work out because my daughter's birthday falls midweek. So it won't be hopefully overlapping. So I think I think it could probably happen. So because I definitely have the time off at work, like I can take. So there's no. reason why, you know, obviously unforeseen. No reason why. Oh, that reminds me. There was a question earlier that we always asked that. I think we glazed over when you, so I do appreciate

you. You had, including yourself, there was eight people that submitted notes for this, which was damn near a PR, definitely not a PR in the top 10. So I appreciate that. That was dope. So when reaching out to your friends and family, et cetera, how did you explain what you needed and who we work. Oh, that's good. So I sent out kind of a group text to my crew at work. And it was, of course, it sounds like most of them did not listen because it was like, don't be a shit bag. Like, be honest. No, most of. I mean, I think other than the sleep, but I don't know. I feel like maybe you are a heavy sleeper and you don't know it. No, I'm not. So there is a, there is a story behind that heavy sleeping thing where somebody thought that I'd missed a run when, and I'll actually know,

we didn't have a run like it's a weird it's a weird thing that happens at least where i work so um so maybe that could be it but really it's just an ongoing now inside joke unfortunately where people say like oh yeah brandon sleeps through runs all the time you know what i mean so where in all actuality i don't so yeah but that was kind of it i really tried to harp on the like not everyone's going to get this if you're not like and i i think they're good for the part like i didn't uh that was the one thing and then and then that that segueed into actually be in a a pre-existing joke not just like ask him about being gay right i don't need that so i keep waiting for y'all to ask me but she won't i mean i'll say we'll ask you every

falls. There you go. All right. So, yeah, let's round this out with you asking us some stuff and we'll get everybody to bed. All right. So first question I have is for Joey. Mm-hmm. Okay.

So I'm talking about the wrestler, the character Hulk Hogan. Yep. What is your favorite Hulk Hogan moment from wrestling? So not the man, but the wrestler, the character, Hulk Hogan. What's your... I'm glad that you asked about that separation. Probably turning to the NWO.

Very good. So that's also mine. Yeah. It was definitely... Nobody saw it coming. Yeah. There was no way he would turn to heel.

Yeah. Yeah. That's got to be one of them. And because, like, Andre the Giant had been body slam before that wasn't the first time that ever happened all of the things that he did but yeah that's probably the one is when he finally walked out and became the third member of the NWO do you want to feel really old yeah I was just I was I was I think they were

joined like a you know a flashback of his life of you know he was this age and then show a picture when he did the heel of NWO like he was like essentially like two years older than Joey and I like to I remember I guess in my mind he was like much older or maybe I'm thinking that I'm much younger but just like think that he had already done that whole era of his career

essentially our age and he's like starting this like extra additional arc of his you know career so I just found that to be like damn I thought he was older than that or you know I guess that generation just looked old too you know like that I mean like he looked 60 like back then but he'd also been like

abusing his body true yeah yeah right you're working out and whatever steroids he did and all that kind of stuff like that's gonna and the hairline thing i've got the same hairline thing so like when are you gonna grow your skull it out though uh eventually eventually it's gonna happen all right um let's see this one could be either one of you but let's go with keith uh what is your most underrated gem piece like in the no wine cellar that you use but it's it's not necessarily like it wouldn't be everyone else's go to but it's like something you love it could be because it's just

maybe you hit a PR on that bar or maybe you know what I'm saying but like what's a specific piece of equipment that you have that you appreciate currently it's the 15 pound aluminum bar that Stephanie pretty much uses every time she works up because she's not really able to do much for the 45 pound bar unless it's like already up to her working sets of stuff. So her just having a bar that she's able to work up to like like just like cold grab and not have to like be nervous that like I can't do a 45 pound bar to warm up with. So having a rackable, you know, six foot 15 pound with like a 300 pound weight limit bar is probably the the best feature to my gym for someone who's getting into training or someone getting back in a training. Uh, something that's like I don't know. There's so much stuff. That's a good answer. Yeah. Like that is my favorite. That's a good answer. Yeah. That is a good answer. Yeah. that is one of my favorite and then like in addition to that I have like the the three and a half pound wooden 17 inch like bumper plates basically that I made from like a home like it's called 17 inch like round pine which is like a coffee table in if you were to like make homemade coffee table kind of things oh okay sorry in it in like a side table so it's just like a 17 inch piece of wood that it's like a perfect you know sphere and if you just do a two inch hole saw right in the middle of it you got a three pound wooden bumper plate oh cool so yeah I got a couple more for you guys

If you're good with it Yeah, no, no, I'm good I know you've fallen asleep a few times Keith I'm here, no, I'm just His camera's off, he's time to sleep Yeah, no, I'm good I'm nice, what's nice is I don't have to like curb my voice

Because it's like, yes, it's fucking 11 third Or whatever the fuck time it, it's like 11, but I don't have to Like, you know, I don't have a sleeping wipe 7 feet away with only a piece of drywall between us Oh yeah, that's true. I just have assholes in a hotel that I don't care if they hear me talking. Joey, what's your, so what is a metal band? So myself, I'm not somebody who listens to like niche metal by any means.

What is a metal band with a smoothest barrier of entry, but if it's like a hard metal band? So like for me, somebody who doesn't know anything about the metal culture, what's a band that you would recommend for me to listen to? Like just to get my wheels turning. oh geez um probably electric cowboy electric call boy yep uh because they mix uh edm with uh electronic dance music with metal and they do it fairly well okay and that will introduce you to like i'm used to these pop beats some use to this and then they'll hit you with like the loudest, hardest hardest metal for a few minutes

and then go back to EDM and that will probably introduce you to that version of the screaming I would probably also put Cradle of Filth out there but Cradle of Filth like it would be maybe the last 10 years. Don't go back

don't go back into their back stuff because their back stuff is like let's be as a offensive as possible abortions aren't abortions fucking hilarious but and they got out of that which is good for them but I would say

yeah electric cowboy would probably introduce you to that screaming version of metal that would slowly allow you to work into the harder metal um Lorna Shore with Will Ramos

is probably a good choice as well but only if you're reading the lyrics. It's very, very poetic, very emotional, except also he's probably the best metal vocalist

in deathcore right now. And he will hit you with weird demon sounds while talking about killing himself because his wife died. Yeah. Right? Like it's,

it's, it's not that cannibal corpse you know offensive stuff right yeah so if you're looking for the lyrical version of it yes definitely go with lorna shore but if you're looking for that intro into how do i work my way in go with electric cowboy gotcha yeah i feel left out sometimes on the crew because like it's a lot of you guys listen to this heavier metal stuff and like and we got to to to to obi and i over here listen to like emo from from 2006 so

I mean there's always something to that but oh yeah electric cowboy seriously if you haven't heard them yet yeah go like the album I can't even describe what the album is but it's like we got the moves

is probably the song to start with and that will introduce you into the screaming into the fun into the heavy and then you'll work your way to I like this what's next oh cool thank you

and then I have one last quick question for Keith other than strawberry wine what is your favorite amp up PR song I've got a bunch favorite one fuck

and there's like three but oh god no well talk on uh it used to be man you suck no line riding

I know these are my questions damn it what's the specific thing I'm about to go do I need us I need to like okay you're about to you're about to do a

heavy sandbag break there you go heavy let's do it just a heavy overhead press I feel like that you need some psyched

I don't know, man. Like, I've been, that Cody Jinks David's song. I don't know why. That's just, like, the most sad country song. It's just like, that's been my more recent one. I mean, in the past, it'd be sale or, uh, keep the wolves away. But, like, as of the last year, I've just been, like, Cody Jinks, it's just, it's all, I guess, freaking playing.

You need to be hitting the feels before a P. I don't know. Like, it does. It's like, it almost makes you want to cry every time. You could just go to the massonomics discord. Just go to the massonomics discord, then somebody will make fun of you. and then you can just... Well, that's just...

Is it because you miss being called David? No, I don't know. It's just... I like a good story. And it's like one of those songs where it's like, I don't know, there's more... What was the name of that song again, Keith? Just David, Cody Jinks. And then David, it's just...

It's such a sad song, and it just tells a story. And it's just, I don't know. I just fucking... I don't know, but I'm sure if I wasn't a David and didn't have the whole one of the David things going, like, maybe it was... wouldn't, I don't know, but it's take that out of it completely and it's I just a great fucking song.

So no Al Paso, does El Paso ever do it for you? I don't. No, I'm good. I don't like like twangy shit. I don't know. Thank you. Well, that's the only questions I've prepared for you guys. Well, Jesus,

we have like four more hours to go. We have to beat last one. I mean, I can keep stuff up. No, I do have to get up at five and try to drive back to the Rochester at some point. I think I only need to, basically my entire day tomorrow would just be to drive them back to Rochester and, you know, doing an hour at the office and then I'm pretty much free for the weekend because I'm already in 40 hours. All right. Keith, bring it home.

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More importantly, go follow my orange gym than a wine seller. We will see you next Tuesday. I think it went well for me. I hope I sounded okay. Yeah, no, your audio. Everything was awesome. Better than mine.

Yeah, actually. Actually, I can't wait for them to rip him apart for that. That is audio, your audio went to shit when you switched to your phone. I'm sure it did, but it's like my computer wasn't working, so. We all understand. but we're still going to make fun of you for it. By me,

is there a, I'm sure there is a, if I actually, how'd that get better? I'm probably sure that sucks into the microphone better. Yeah, that did get a lot better.

That's really a nice. Yeah, it is. You could have told me at any point to, like I just, no, it's the, it's the,

it's the wired Apple headphones that have the microphone on the right board. And you guys, I just didn't realize it wasn't, it, you fucker could have told me, I always had shitty audio.

At one point, like I heard it in between your shirt and just heard your lungs. Well, I don't know, whatever. It's, they can fix it in post. If not, then this can just be a throwback episode

to the first fucking 30 episodes we did. It's kind of a throwback to my episode. Yeah, I am you. Hi, it's Brandon. I am Brandon. Microphone inception. No, it was a good time, though.

Sorry if my audio was shit. it wasn't not right until the end there I definitely got to where I just gave up and just kind of laid completely down I'm just like I'm just I fall asleep I'll just go to sleep during this podcast yeah that's that's respectful laying in a bed

two and a half hours rather than sitting a chair for two and a half hours so it's a little bit nicer though I'm sure I had a good time yeah that was fun yeah definitely I always enjoy the

episodes where I already know the guy I wouldn't say intimately that's not the right word but we've just sexually yeah and it's not what is the right physically well yeah but I mean

we stepped on each other's dicks at times or two oh god I hope that becomes I hope that becomes more oh it's those cute obviously it's obviously

toes, but people will say don't step of my dick and I'm like, get off my my dick. Nobody says that. People will say get off my dick all the time. Get off my dick is one thing that's not what you said. Or in the context you said it. It made it funny

though. Oh yeah. Absolutely. I had a good time. Don't want to step on anybody's dick. What? No. All right. It all works out. Dind. Hong Kong.

Thank you.