Unpaid And Underrated - 119 : A Sexy Jacked Dalmatian

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Peter. They dive right into great topics like goblin metal, king-fu, being a vegetarian, beer, strongman, and disco snails. Links Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @peterbbrewin (https://www.instagram.com/peterbbrewin/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Peter.

So you're going to talk directly into here, and you're going to say hi to the Masonomics crew. Hi. That's it? You don't want to say hi to Keith. You don't want to say hi to Nate. Oh, this one. Hi. There's Keith.

Here, hold on. Hey, little dude. Hi, Oren. How are you, buddy? Hi, Keith. How are you, buddy? Good to see you again. How have you been?

I've been great. How's your summer going? I've did some soccer soccer that's cool what position did you play so I play red team it's my second year playing that that's awesome

I think you play goalie yep and you play goalie really well what's your favorite part about soccer I get to kick the ball and I get to save the ball oh that's fun that sounds really fun

oh I'm gonna sneeze on Oh. Okay. Can I have my podcast back now? Bye, buddy. Hey there. Oh, howdy, howdy. That's Pete.

That's who we're talking to today. Speaker's working here. Hi, Pete. Pete. Well, can you read it? Pete. Yeah, good boy. Yeah.

All right. All right. All right. All right. I really hope that conversation I had with Orne, it was recorded, because that was actually pretty dope. So that would be somewhat of. If Nate's listening, I'll allow that. You can go ahead and post that because it's not as fast.

That was my follow-up was, you know, it's me just talking to like a six-year-old. I was like, okay, I'm not sure if we can have that or not. But I guess the smile on his face while you were doing that. Oh, he was so cheerful when animated. And he's still remembers who you are all the time, right? Yeah, very excited. You know, they don't understand that we travel to. a whole other country to go visit you.

Like, they don't grasp that. But at the same time, they'll see it and go, that's Keith, right? Like, it's really cool. Okay, so, uh, all right. Cod Cog! Welcome back, everybody, at episode 422 of the unpaid and underrated podcast, a podcast by crew, four, crew, mocked by crew

and not listened to by enough crew I am one of the hosts Big Joey I am joined by Big Keith over there and we have Big Peter Big Peter Bruno

what do you go by Yes do you go by Bruno Big Peter Big Pete Brew Oh I just realized Your last name has Bruin it

That's really fun We'll play on that later Uh So So do you guys have anything cool to drink? I don't. I do not. Just smashing some electrolytes trying to stay hydrated.

Do you smash an electrolytes at night? It was more of a, man, I haven't drank enough water today, and I don't want to sparkling water. So let me just put a, you know, one of those packets of whatever the fuck it is, liquid IV in a water bottle. The liquid IV, they finally just got the sugar-free where I work. Yeah, that's what I do at Costco. Yeah, I get those. the variety pack there's like a

I don't know they're not great but it is what it is it's always feel a little bit better on days I know I haven't consumed enough liquid

yeah liquid IV is like my least favorite because of the I think it's like seven milligrams of sugar or seven grams of sugar or something crazy like that like cheese

this one might be an element actually because Stephanie bought Stephanie bought him thinking she was gonna drink them and then she drank like two and was like here you can have

this $70 package that I refuse to drink because it's not what I want I'm like okay I'll just, you know, mix those in every now and then. How's the magnesium? I don't know.

I don't know. I didn't look at it. Yeah, you'll be asleep in an hour. Sounds like a Thursday. Peter, anything down there you're drinking? That's cool you want to show off? You're a bit frozen, I think. Nope, there you are. Can you hear us?

Didn't tell if it was frozen or stuck? Yeah, I got a rye Manhattan going and a little cherry lime lacroix. Sorry, a rye and manhattan. Manhattan? Oh, Rye Manhattan? Oh, yeah. Man,

I love me a bourbon Manhattan. That's like one of my favorite, like, special tea. Like drinks? Right? Is it tea?

It's a joke. You said special tea. I already a har-har. It's a special tea. Anybody wearing anything cool? A carps gym t-shirt. And that's better. I got my raw power shirt on here.

No, that's a good one. That's a sleeper. I've got the chicken bake. um all right what do you want to get into there i just ordered a you and you shirt but it's not getting here till saturday oh nice oh yeah buddy is there um no i'm like i'm honestly curious what what size you got because like we got the most recent um you know uh sales you know data whatever there's i think multiple sizes sold out and only a very few quite like like we've been making

the joke for two years that there's only three spots left but like some of the sizes are completely sold out and i think the most there were like a like three or four and one like a large maybe or an extra large like there wasn't a lot of shirts left so if you're listening and you have not got one please look into it because we cannot promise uh size availability yeah that was actually my issue i usually wear an excel but i just it was out so i went for a 2x but it should be fine and be a little uh yeah be nice little nice little looser nice little uh you know more comfy um let's see we got the uh the certified training facility maps got a new facelift he added some uh he tanner added some cool stuff to it uh all the hall of fame people now

have the jacket level hall of fame crew have the jacket icon on their gym uh as opposed to just before everyone was just the everybody cup level or jacket level still only had the cup so that was pretty cool and what else did he do he oh he did anyone that is i don't think it was i think it was just cup level and well yeah it was any any level of hall of fame he He was actually, Tanner's gone out of his way to follow every single one of his crew back on Instagram, which I thought was pretty dope. Yep. You know. Tanner's, he's a bit on a tear to give back to the crew.

He is. Hell yeah, let's do it, right? It is. It is cool to. Much appreciated. Yeah. I mean, you get a, what do you always say under the FMK, you know, support, you know, under the Mary one, when you always have the same line about the one that brought you there or whatever the hell you say? Like, that's kind of how I don't get it.

Oh, you dance. with the one you showed up with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you got to feel like that with crew. Like, I mean, you got to, you're always looking for new crew, but you also got to, you know, support the crew that's been supporting you for the past, you know, several years. So the fact that he does that and they put effort into us, you know, they put in the work in to keep us happy, as I like to say, put, put the work in, you know, so I think that's pretty dope. Yeah, I guess I can just remove this tattoo now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Take a cheese grater to it. That'll get rid of it. Um, I mean, that would probably break your leg to some extent, but, uh, you know, or break the skin, I suppose. But, uh, speaking of breaking things, I don't know, what's Nate doing to YouTube? I had like three people DM me going, where's the YouTube video? Like, you guys didn't put an episode out. Someone was like, Carp literally thought we didn't put an episode out because he must not like, he, I think he only consumes, uh, podcast via YouTube. It's one of those maniacs. So he like, he literally thought we didn't put an episode out. And I was like, dude, I've been like, we've literally not missed. a week in over two years. He's like, well, yeah, but you've banked some. And I'm like, that doesn't matter. Like, that means we recorded three in one fucking week. Like, like, there, I have literally recorded three episodes and like a four days span before. So, like, I've never missed a week of podcasting, releasing, but, you know, and on average, we still do, I don't know, so it's 52 weeks. Neither of us are taking more than two weeks off a year,

maybe, you know, so that's 50 weeks a year, minimum that we're putting something out, you know. So I got the email saying that there was a problem uploading to YouTube. And I get that email No I get that email all the time And I say to Nate I go hey Nate There's a problem And he goes

No there isn't And then it's just fixed Like it's never not happened So the time I got the email And was like No I'm not going through this shit again Where I email Or I message Nate and go

It didn't work And he goes no you're just crazy That's funny Right This was the one time Where I was like I'm not doing that again And then sure enough

It was the one time it actually didn't get uploaded. Yeah, maybe it was Kurt. The newer Kurt with a C mentioned that he didn't think we had a new episode this week, too, I believe, possibly. And I'm just like, guys, like, we don't miss weeks.

And, like, if you thought we missed a week, are you just not looking on our YouTube? Or, sorry, not on our Instagram? Like, it's like, I guess now I just, I just need to stop posting Instagram stories, promoting the podcast because you fuckers don't look at it anyway, apparently if you think we missed a goddamn week of episodes.

Well, I mean, that's the algorithm, right? Yeah, that's true. I don't see half of anyone's shit anyway. I don't see any of unpainted underrated stuff. Like, I have to go and seek it out. Yeah. I think I'm muted on mine, too, just so it's like not, like, I'm the one posting it. I don't need to see it on my other, I don't need to see it in my feed of my other one unless I'm tagged in it.

Let's see. There's a little food talk. A lot of free talk. We had talked briefly at one point about, I think I talked about I was going to try shredded, shredding my meal prep chip. because that's what Taylor does. Yeah. But then Stephanie was just on a tear of trying something new for her meal prep. So she found ground chicken and did like this, you know, light taco seasoning thing and just made it ground chicken and veggies and rice.

And it was freaking amazing. I have not tried it cold yet. I only had it warm. So I don't know how if it will be a lunch replacement. But damn, I could eat that a couple times a week and get an extremely healthy, completely different, you know, chicken delivery system to my mouth. But that was pretty neat. And ground chicken wasn't readily available at like every gag because I was like, oh, we should look at Costco.

You know, it'd be so much cheaper. And all they have was ground turkey. But Wegman's has ground chicken. So that'll have to be on our reoccurring grocery list for a while. As well as those, I can't remember what brand it is now. I go back and look at the food chain, I would have been posting it. But it's like a protein pudding, like a single package protein pudding. And it's like, you know, 17 or 18 grams of protein.

So like on par with like a yogurt or like a cottage cheese of the equivalent size. But my God, is it tastes so good. I mean, it's literally, I mean, it's not like pudding pack good, but like nothing with protein and semi-good macros will be like just a sugar treat. But it was pretty damn good. What was that called? I'd have to look on the food channel from a few days ago. I can't think of the, well, no, it's something.

It's something. It's something. I was just going to say it was something feet, but not feet. It's like, because you, you made the, you made the tea or the E. It was such an easy trip. It was feel, something feel. Yeah, maybe it's just... And I turned the owl into a T.

That's what it was. That was good. I made a jab at a mofo there. It was good all the way around. All right. Yep, what you got. Yeah, so, fun thing, I was blaming the supplements, but it turns out, yeah. Your outbreak, right?

Yeah, it turns out it's not that at all. And, yeah, I am. am now covered in disgusting red blotches pretty much from my neck down to my legs. We don't know what it is. We think I went to the doctor finally, like I caved because at first I was like, it's the supplement, so I stopped taking it and it didn't go away. So I said, okay, it's allergy. So I took an allergy pill.

It got worse. Yeah, it just turns out it's this weird thing that I don't remember the name of, and I'm sure one of the doctors listening is going to correct me. But it's just a form of rosacea. and they said we don't know what causes it we don't know how to make it go away and one day it'll go away

and never come back but for now yeah I am looking in the mirror at somebody I don't recognize and it's kind of weird yeah I'm I'm covered in a lot of red disgusting blotches

they don't hurt they wouldn't be like they don't know they like even like because I mean when I went to the Durham and I was like I heard the dermatologist and I was like yeah I've got this

you know some other than but it literally by the time I got to see you it went away and he's like yeah that usually how it happens it's like dry you know dryness and then stress brings on a lot of that and then when I was having skin issues it was stressed so I don't but it's weird it's like you're it's essentially head to toe or like neck to toe or whatever yeah yeah nothing above the neck um like I could just on the podcast show you like it's pretty bad in certain areas yeah like that um my arms are covered so yeah and then I have to go

not raised bumps they're just are they are they some of them are raised some of them are not interesting they don't itch nope not even a bit don't even notice I didn't notice they were there until my wife pointed them out I was I was say I'm not a big like inspect myself

in the mirror kind of guy yeah yeah and Morgan was like so these these are starting on your back and I think they're going to get worse and I was like that's fine and yeah they got worse uh possibly and immune system thing.

There is a possibility that I had a virus and my body fought it. And now this is how it's kind of expelling it. But yeah, yeah, headspace is kind of all messed up. It's been a long time since I looked in the mirror and didn't recognize myself. And it's kind of wild that way. Body dysmorphia. We all have it, right? You just make sure you're always wearing massonomics clothes head to toe and, you know,

you don't see the bumps. You'd be good to go. Need some long sleeve, more long sleeve shirts. Yeah. But that was the thing. I did mention I was at the hospital and some people were asking questions. So I thought I'd put it out there that like, yeah, this is what it was. Just had to make sure it wasn't like liver failure or measles or something crazy.

It's none of those. So. That's good. We need you around for a little while, buddy. We got to catch up to the sister podcast at least. That's what Morgan said. I was like, I'm not going to the doctor. I'll just die.

She's like, no, you can't just do that. And I'm like, that's my problem for like a minute. Yeah, just Leave your wife A 35 year old widow With two kids under seven That'll be great for her Yeah, well

Thanks, thanks asshole Apparently that's not the thing to do Yeah, life would be Yeah, I don't know She kind of makes you take take a little You know Put your put it in perspective of like Wow, what would I leave behind

And what kind of disarray? Is that disarray? Like I don't even get to die in battle I die to a skin rash. Like, what the fuck is that? Like, grow up, dudes. Go to the fucking doctor. Well, don't, like, you know, like redheads

aren't they already predisposed to, like, blotchiness and shit and, like, the pale skin, do you think it's, that's, so. I get nice and flush really easy. So when I drink an energy drink, I'll get, like, red blotches and alcohol does the same thing, just red blotches. That's you, Peter. How's your stuff?

skin going, buddy. Yeah, you're quiet over there. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm generally kind of a quiet guy for sure. We've heard that. We'll get into that after. I was a solo episode for a second. I forgot. Oh, really? I'm teasing. And now you're there. I've been that way my whole life for sure. But yeah, no skin issues, though. That's good. Yeah. Good. Don't get what I have. It sucks. It doesn't sound good. It's scary.

It's alarming. Yeah, it's, alarming is a good word. It's not, like I said, it's not painful. It's not itchy. I would have never noticed it until she pointed it out. The doctor didn't really tell you to be worried about. They say follow up or anything? No. No, he was, he was, he was, he showed me like the doctor's website about it. And then he was like, this is what you have.

We don't know what to do about it. We can't make it go away. It'll go away on its own. And then you'll never have it again. And I'm like, great. So I just, I'm in for a shitty couple of months where I just look like a Dalmatian. A sexy, jacked Dalmatian.

Let's put that. out there. Last one I got on here is Disco Snails. I don't Yeah, I don't often give Nate enough props but that band that he brought up the one day Wolfpack

so they released a song called Disco Snails. And Nate shared a story explaining how the intro to that song is really akin to a Shakespeare line from Hamlet and that got me. That explanation got me.

to look into it. And that sounds great. So, yeah, everybody go listen to Disco Snails at Pife Wolfpack, and it's a silly song about how the snails are dancing and they have disco balls in their shells, and it's really silly and weird. But, yeah, Nate, you turn to me on to that one. So I know when you hear this, you're going to go, I knew it, or something like that, but Big Nate here.

Yeah, I knew it. But let's get it right. It's Disco Snails by Wolf Mon, which is the side project kind of thing of Jack Stratton, who is the bandleader slash frontman of Wolfpack. Like, what are we doing here? Let's get it right at least. Definitely give that one to listen. I need a sound bite that just says, Nate, you turned to me on and just replay that on loop.

Yeah, Nate, you turned to me on. Yeah, Nate, you turned to me on. Yeah, Nate, you turned to me on. Nate, Nate, Nate, Nate, not Nate, the other guy, Keith. Why don't we read this episode? Yeah, Peter, did you get a chance to consume episode, you know, 9 million of the Mathnomics podcast? Right. Oh, yeah.

No, it's definitely an obsessive habit of mine every Monday morning listening to it. Nice. But, yeah, I enjoyed the kind of home gym nerd title topic was pretty cool. Tanner getting back into the macro factor And then oh yeah The news about the home gym con booth was pretty exciting I'm hoping to go like next year probably Oh nice

Well the year after this next one Yeah it's it's odd because it's yeah it's it's we just had it but yeah it's Right but yeah five out of five JD Powers for sure Nice nice yeah I enjoyed it um let's see actually made notes this week, specifically. I saw that. Tanner getting on macrofactor after, you know, it didn't like his like description of like, you know, I kind of do it already. I kind of like exactly where I want to be and like, you know, it was just kind of neat that

just someone, you know, it's just been tracking that long that, or hasn't been tracking that long, but he's been eating intuitively for, you know, 20 years or whatever, 10, 10, 10, 15 years. So he was kind of dead on where he wanted to be, but just kind of, you know, kept him in line and, you know, It's kind of canon that he almost has to try it at least once, considering it's like a, you know, it's a, well, it's not a big, well, I wouldn't say it's a sponsor, but they have the, you know, they have the small affiliate with them and all that. But it's just something they, you know, it's going to make for good content. So it's interesting to see how that I'll get on it. So one of these days when I, you know, have a, if I feel that I'm in a good enough position with food and mental health, but no, I don't think I'm there right now. Um, let's see. Oh, when he commented on when they both were talking about how like, you know, they do these, you know, three-day weekends of just complete balls to the walls, the massonomics content, and they're like, you know, borderline famous and going to,

like, talk to people that are like, you know, especially if it's just crew, like pretty enthralled to meet them and excited to meet them and all that. And then, you know, going back to work on Monday. And what do you say?

Like, did you, did you get me that report yet? Dip shit or something to that extent. And it's just like, you know, that kind of resonates, you know,

with me to an extent of like, you know, not that I'm famous or anything going to these places, but just like, you go to these, like, your homies and you're just like just all into this thing and then just going back to work after like just oh it's miserable it is the worst so definitely relate to that and then uh

Tommy got the little jab in about New York being a quote unquote big state and then the one I really want to talk about is I've the pulley versus pulley I have I don't think I've ever heard anyone in my entire life say pulley so I don't know what video they're watching that I'm not watching or I'm not catching up on it or picking up on it. But like, I, and I'm curious if it's one of those things where like until you're aware of it, you're, you know, you don't see it. But in this past few days, I have yet to hear anyone say pulley in person or, you know, in real life. Pooley. Yeah.

Yeah. Nobody does that. I don't know. But, but, but him saying, but then them having this conversation about pulley versus pulley, I, I almost can't even say pool, like swimming, pull. but like for them for for him to say that and then immediately at least say a rut instead of root it's the rut other problem yeah i was like uh you are the root of my pool like i don't know but yeah all and all i'll go ahead and give it uh five out of five uh ruts uh yeah definitely um geez new york is such a big state i don't know how anybody can handle how big that is Pulley versus pool. Pooley versus Pooley.

Never in my life said Pooley. And anybody that does, like, I'd probably stop them and be like, did you, did you mean to do that? Right. And then somebody in the, I think it was Jake said, or Zach, sorry, Zach said like, it's the difference between coupon and coupon. And I was like, fuck, I say coupon, but seeing it spelled out made me so mad at myself for saying coupon. Oh, I say coupon as well. Yeah, right? And I was just like, I was so seeing it spelled out phonetically,

I was just like, damn, I say it stupid. Because it should technically be coupon, but like you say coupon. And I thought that that was really funny. Definitely not going to join Macrofactor. Definitely not going to do that. I could stand to lose some weight. Well, yeah, because Morgan would have to be the one that enters all the data,

You don't know what the fuck you ate. Yeah, no, literally. She made... She made... She made this amazing, like, Euro and turmeric. Termic? Okay, hold on. Termic.

No, it's turmeric. Do you say turmeric? I say turmeric. Yeah, okay, okay, there it is. There's another one. I say termark. I could agree with Peter, maybe, but yours is what I wouldn't say. I might be saying it wrong, but I don't think...

What did Peter say? It sounded different from what you... Tomorick? Yeah, turmeric. Yeah, termite. Yeah, I'm adding the R and you're in unsweetening. We're all three saying it completely different. Amazing.

We're talking about that little like orangeish root, right? Yeah, the fuck it is. So she made some rice and this really good Euro type of, she just rolled them up and fried them. And like, yeah, you're right. I'm not going to track any of that. I don't know what's in this. She just hands me food and I eat it and I'm thankful. I didn't have to make it or pack it.

so yeah definitely not going to be joining Microfactor anytime soon so I'm going to give that a 5 out of 5 um nice there you go um one last thing before we hit uh hit you guys with the ad read is the YouTube video kind of slid in on us today and I didn't get a chance to write it down but it was the funniest thing about it was um I don't think

I don't remember if they talked to because because they did the live on Monday so I literally listened to the podcast I think Monday morning and then the live Monday night which is just a lot of massonomics but I don't remember when they talked about it but they did comment on like hey the YouTube coming out this week is Tommy talking about a 29 millimeter Texas power bar

but it was recorded 18 months ago so it's like the whole time I was just thinking of like I was trying to make like a good like is this from the future or the past blah blah blah like I always you know mix up trying to say that joke and you know so I don't know but yeah they talked about you know I own the bar it's good bar you know

it's always cool to see Tommy get a little more airtime like on the YouTube videos and stuff like on the soloy stuff and put Tanner behind the camera so I enjoyed that I don't know if either you had a chance to watch that but it was you know I didn't I don't think I don't think I watched it like 20 minutes ago probably you're gonna go buy one

um no I don't know definitely I don't know if it's in the funds at the moment but I feel that I've got uh just the bare naked power bar I think Joe you do as well all right It's a good budget bar for sure. Yeah, no, I think it's, I've been happy with it.

What do you mean budget bar? Well, it's not a $400 plus bar. It's like a $250, $300. Why do you need a $400 plus bar? I'm just saying it's in that wheelhouse. That's what you would describe it as, as a bare steel bar that has no corrosion resistance, etc. None of mine do.

My Texas dad of the bar is also bare steel and rusted as fuck because it's in my basement. What do you use to combat? that is there anything that we have a code with that you wanted to oh yeah that would i use barbed rescue 100% code on i on all everything um but yeah like i i i don't know that the bells of steel one it would be considered a budget bar because i don't think i've ever felt the difference between that and any other power bar i've had a hundred dollar bar that's a different yeah the nerling on that one was shit but i don't even consider that like that's not even a budget to me a budget

like it is the least amount of money I would recommend someone to spend if they're serious about weight training like I would not never recommend someone to buy a $100 barbell. No. At the time it was all I had right. So like again that's like right when COVID hit and it was the I walked in

and they were just like we got this and I was like forgive it to me. Right. But yeah I don't know. I think the bezel steel bar is again but I've thought about this too is my gym is very built on weight is wait.

And you guys are all nerds. I understand that. People listening are all nerds, that they really care about particular things. But I don't. And I'm just like, just give me the thing my friends recommend. And this was one of them, right?

All right. Big Peter, do you have a Massenomics sponsor ad read that you'd like to hit the guests to the listeners with? Right. Yep. This one is a bit of a poem.

Nice. titled An Ode to Massonomics. Deadlifter shirts are red. Lifting department shorts are blue. You have a wonderful podcast, and we all appreciate you. If you like to lift hard and live easy, if you like to shoot the shit and keep it breezy, if you love the sound of a good crispy crack,

you'll get strong, stay strong, use your strength, and never go back. So go and buy a certified training facility banner. Oh, come join the crew. you'll contact a Tanner. That's awesome, man. Well done. Was that a, was that,

I always am curious if that's like a chat, GBT, or that's all off the cuff or do a little inspiration or? Oh, no, I just wrote it all myself. Nice.

Love it. Yeah. Very cool. Very cool. Wrote a little poetry or at least read a decent amount of college and stuff. And, yeah, dabbled a bit, I guess.

Very cool. Very cool. cool. Well, I think we're going to close out general topics and kick all these looky-lose out, especially this Ryan character, Ryan question mark. At least there's not a in front of that, yeah.

Oh, you can now send nonverbal feedback. Yes, slow down from reactions in the toolbar. Oh, cool. I can tell Ryan to slow down every 30 seconds. But yeah, let's kick all these looky-lose out and try to get Big Peter

on the horn. We've been an elusive character I've been trying to get a hold of for a while here. So Big Peter's at you, buddy. That's me. Nice. Welcome. You were live on the unpaid and underrated podcast. How are you doing, my friend? Oh, good. How are you guys doing? Good. Glad to have you. Glad to have you.

You know, we always hit everyone off with the very first one here with what brought you to Masonomics. So let's hear that origin story. Well, started lifting again in just short of 2020, end of 2019. I have like a 30-minute commute to work, so I have a decent amount of time to, like, listen to things. So right when I started lifting again, I was looking for something, you know, lifting related to listen to and from work.

And, yeah, found this, and I found a couple other ones, but really stuck with Masonomics. Yeah, I've been listening to it every Monday. Yeah, ever since. It's the world's strongest podcast. Right? Oh, yeah. I love Tommy and Tanner.

Awesome guys. I enjoyed every bit of it. Going through the backlog at the moment. I'm up to episode 85, and I need to get up to like 2.7. So, yeah, getting through it. That's actually about where I think I have to do. And they got to get to 240.

And I'm at like 120-something. um but yeah just i just had a thought i don't want to cut you off but it's a very i don't i don't lose my train of thought here um do you think there's more people that have that are caught up on our backlog than their backlog i think it might be possible like it like if you think about it like say we have 50 i mean i don't it's probably not because there's probably like a few hundred people that have well are there a few hundred people that have listened to every single mass comedy episode or is there like a hundred I think it would probably have

at least 75 people that are up to date on ours maybe I think it would come down to that just um we aren't going back to 2018 so I think there's a bit more relevant to ours that like if you listen to an episode with scantz you know who scantz is he's

in the discord he's on Instagram you know who that is right but meanwhile you might go back to a massonomics episode from 2018 mean and they're talking about this event that's already happened that's never going to happen again and like I think maybe that there's no there but um yeah that's that's a valid valid point but like for the statistical act I think the actual statistical aspect of it there's probably like if we did a poll of like are you up to date on our backlog and are you

up to day on their backlog I'm curious of like what the actual numbers are it's not to say that like it means literally anything because listening to our backlog is you know equivalent to listening to two years of their podcast which almost everyone in the crew has already done but it was just it's just kind of like if you're looking at it is like percentages wise I thought it was kind of a neat little thing to think about but that would be interesting to get back to mr mr bruno here uh peter do you want to introduce yourself and just say uh you know who you are on instagram discord and anywhere else you want people to find you on social just so they know who you are yeah discord big peter b um instagram peter b brewing uh without a g um i have this little a passion project um called malleable strength um that's spelled with two ls and we have a youtube channel um it's kind of like entertainment and education on there and then i have a facebook page for malleable strength is more education and then instagram it's more that's not it good stuff good stuff well it's uh and uh how long you've been crew you are are you somewhat you relatively new or am i just i think i'm hitting a year like maybe this week nice so that took you you know so that that took you a few years to kind of already be consuming massanomics and then you know what was that thing that kind of pushed you over the edge to join crew then i had i should have done it earlier i mean it's only three dollars a month i mean

Yeah, kind of a cheaper person But, yeah, it's only three bucks Oh, it's been awesome Nice No, no, no, no regrets, huh? No, everybody's been super nice on there Yeah Except Ryan

Oh, he's a real A-hole Yeah, he tells you things like, don't buy hats And then you get chargebacks And he's still here, he is still here And he gets crew falls, mixed up with the Arnold, and then I forgot he was even at the Arnold, so that was good. So I think you kind of mentioned it already, but like, what was the, I found Massonomics, I listened for a couple of years, and then joined? Like, give us a linear version of that.

Right. Yeah. Yeah, it listened every Monday for, yeah, at least a couple years. No. I've always been kind of like an introvert and stuff. So it's nice for me to like push myself into like social situations. So I definitely should have done it sooner. I feel like I've been getting a lot out of it. I've been trying to like comment and be pretty active in the group and stuff. And I think it's been pretty helpful. And yeah, I don't. I mean, I work at like physical location and stuff. And there are people there. But I don't have like a big. night life or anything so it's been nice to have something a little extra you know yeah nice you know I'm already looking forward to bed so I do like Joey's point

of view I want to pull in that that string a little bit more though just because this might help Tanner like because like their whole goal obviously like if they have the passive income well wouldn't not necessarily pass like a lot of work as of income there's the little things into passive income fuck you guys it's put more time out

you said it I know that's not It's not putting a meeting behind the words that I say, but no, so like, do you think it was hearing supporting your supporting members or, you know, hearing, hearing stuff about the crew on the podcast and then like kind of being like, why am I part of that? Like, I want to have all these friends to, the Lift Hard Live Easy recaps, the Home GymCon recaps, the Arnold Recaps is all those things. That's a good perspective from a newer crew. Are all those things, kind of?

What was it that? Right. Was it the three spots left? It probably was like supporting our support. members because yeah he's talking about all these people in the discord and I'm feeling like you know maybe I should be a part of this I can really be included more in the group and stuff I think that must have been that that relatively new segment did it did its job then they go tenure there's your marketing what do you call that that's your

poll taking a pulse of the crew yeah research I don't know research that was that was that was that was cool I like that big Peter where do you live where you're from buddy I live in Ann Arbor area in a city called Ipsilani, Michigan. Oh, you're close. Yeah. Yeah, not too bad. So, yeah, just like a four-hour drive to the Arnold and stuff. But, yeah, I grew up in the Toledo, a suburb of Toledo and stuff.

And then, yeah, I lived in Indianapolis for a few years after college. I went to college up in Michigan, had a little college called or university called Fair State University. Yeah, moved to Indianapolis And then we moved back here 11 years ago My wife's from Michigan as well No, I've Where are you at in relation

Like, without me bringing out The Certified Training Map Where are you at with Dodds and Brad and So they are on the west side? Yeah, I am like real close to Tyler I'm like 20 minutes Oh, that's right, yeah, you guys had a crew meetup

Right or you did a Yeah, yeah, he goes to his right muscle gym and I'm like potentially going to get at least like a partial membership there hopefully. But yeah, yeah, Scott and Brad are on like the west side. It's, I mean, it's not that far. And I'll have to meet up with them at some point. It's only two and a half hours probably. Nice. It's doable.

And yeah, I've seen Scott at like great, like strongest man and war the north and a couple other competitions. No, he makes a big of those. yeah right so as a newer crew same question we ask everybody and like with the release of the the yeah buddy shirt like this i got to say and i got to admit this question was actually designed designed by me as a way to kind of bully tanner and tommy into re-releasing the yeah buddy shirt. I, and I have to admit that now, that it's been re-released to crew only. But I still think it's worth asking again. Oh, for sure. Yeah, and I miss that one. Yeah, they, they re-released it at the lift hard live easy. They was never on the website and it was, oh, got you. The link was like,

there's like four shirts left kind of thing and it's just like a link to it's a blank t-shirt that you just didn't know what you were buying. Yeah, so as much as like I say like that was my intention. My intention is also just to find out, you know, the shirts that really hit. And that I know that was one of them. And I really wanted that shirt to come back. And I'm happy it did. But what is the one piece of Massonomics merch that you wish you had bought? That you see us all wearing. And you go, God, I wish I'd been around for that. I wish I'd bought it. I wish I got it. Right. Man, there's a lot. Because, yeah, I'm a brewer. So, like, all, like, the beer-themed ones. Like, I don't have any of those. So, wow. I mean, the deadlifter shirt.

it would be cool or you have the squats. Yeah. No, I totally should because, yeah, it'd be fun to wear those to like a beer festival and like I should get a kick out of it. Yeah, it ties in both your, you know, two of your favorite things there. Right. Totally. Well, three if you count Mathonomics.

Right. Cool stuff. Yeah. I'm yet to run into somebody like seeing me wear a massanomics thing out in public or anything, but that'd be pretty cool if that happened. it's rare right I mean I

like my local gym I see people periodically but it's like people I already know it's like my friends and like two of them are crew and then the other ones that wear massonomic stuff just aren't they're just

you know they just thought the chicken bake shirt was funny I just wanted to buy it that was about it let's see so relatively new

I'm gonna start I'm gonna start trying to guess well I already know well was the episode title Yeah, the episode title was your supporting membership number, wasn't it? So what was that? 422. Okay, yeah.

So, yeah, I'm interested in if it'll change with the re-release of the cards going out and stuff. Yeah, who knows what the next, you know, that's actually that's something. We should always try to help them hype that up. It's like, I don't know what the, like, there's some stuff that we, there's some inner circle stuff every now and then we get a sneak peek of or kind of behind the scene stuff. But knowing what the gift is going to be, Tanner shut me right the fuck down when I asked about that at Home GymCon. So I literally have no clue. You know, some of the other stuff, it's kind of obvious if you're there for the pre-shows often enough and you, you know, pay attention. You can kind of see, you get a good idea of what some of the upcoming drop is going to be that I think is possibly next week.

I think what they say, the 21st or the 28th, I think, were their options. So it's next week or the week after. But there'll be some cool stuff in that. It would be fun. Yeah. But, yeah, I'm very curious of what the gift will be. But I do need to, a next order I put in, I need to, someone needs to remind me. Because Stephanie specifically asked me the other day, he's like, oh, how do I get my Hall of Fame card?

I was like, I think, I'm hoping he still has a couple sitting at the house. I can, next time we do an order, we'll put it in the order notes to ask him to send one out to you. um just because you know she's crewed out and i think it's cool to kind of track her stuff for her and oh yeah but uh i was awesome she joined yeah yeah she got on um i don't even i don't think i moot i i think she just did it and i don't remember what the whole story was i but i was like yeah do it um but speaking of hall of hall of fame in general though where where where what what does this checkmark tonight put you at bud um well yeah i just had that order in yeah i had like nine orders. So that

completed the 10 order thing. So they just had to change it. But I'm at 5 currently. I plan on going to lift hardy live easy next year and competing. And then I'll definitely have stopped by the gym and get a little lifting.

It might not do much. That's a given. Yeah. So you'll pick up training at the gym. Because even if you just walk in and pick up a dumbbell that counts as training at the gym. Competing, attending. I think it's Yeah, he pretty much not got three with one trip. And then, yeah, a month later, a year from now,

albeit two years, so that'll be another notch there. So I should be, like, next August at 11, hopefully. Cool. And then you have to pick up a random one, and you'll be a cup level, which will be dope. Right? Yeah. Yeah, we'll see if I ever win a contest,

but it's always fun to try, though. That's a fun one. That's the hardest one. there's there's very few of us that is on that yeah yeah there's probably under 50 for sure I don't know more than 10 but under under 20 I'd say if I could get through the back catalog I would be master's level too so how many master's level are there there's not a lot so yeah master completers there's three I think isn't it is scans Matthias and uh Tommy Schneider but maybe not I don't I'm

be talking out my ass. I don't know why those names. I know scans, obviously. Does that mean all of them? Jen, maybe? Yeah,

like beyond the check. Yeah, every single checkmark. I think they're 16. Okay. Dodds. Something else. And I'll say at the minute

when I look it up, ask him about the training. Yeah, Ryan, Ryan reminding us that Dodds is a master's computer. Okay. Uh, so are you certified?

Yeah. Yeah, that's been cool. What's the name of your gym? Malleable strength. Malleable strength and conditioning. Yeah, that's been awesome, though. And, yeah, I met like Tyler through that and stuff, seeing where he lives and stuff. Yeah, I'm going to try and get my buddy one for Christmas and stuff.

He lives in Wisconsin and he's got a real nice gym. But yeah, I think it's been cool. It's been crazy seeing all these other maps like pop up, though. all of a sudden it seems like yeah there's um i was looking through the map and i saw some guy here in canada so i messaged him and he was just like i don't understand discord and then i think he's in there now like we're actually talking to each other no that's cool it's someone that's a crew because my issue is i've got like there's like 10 other certified training facilities and like six hours from me when not 10 there's like five and none of them are crew they're just like random

people that don't have anything linked anything like that. So that's kind of like but a follow up on master completers. So Scantz has got 16. Matthias has got 16. And according to the website, that is it at the moment.

Oh, wow. Lou and Dodds are both. Lou Dodds and Jenner at 50. There's a lot. There's a ton of people at 15. Yeah, there's like 9 or more. Yeah. Well, 15 would be the cup level, but sorry, jacket level. So there's like the fibers, whatever many of it are, but then, yeah, unless the website's not up to date,

it does look like it's just Matthias Scants, so. So good job, Ryan, failure of information from the, you know. What do you, Gary? Yeah. Way to bug us with the Discord chat or the Washington Tish. It's okay, buddy. We still love you. All right.

So this is one of my favorites, always. So, you know, you had, you had eight people, submit all the information for you relatively quick, too. So I very much appreciate that. That was surprised. Anyone that's on the upcoming list, take notes, you know, give us. When I actually, when I actually don't have to worry about it and, like, hound people, and I'm like, and I kind of look at Nate's website, and I'm like, oh, this person's

two weeks out and they've already got eight submissions, sweet. I don't have to bug them. Whereas, like, today, someone had three submissions, and they're like five days out. And I was like, all right, goddamn, I know, I've got to talk to this. Now I've got to bug this guy. Five days. time yeah okay but uh well i'm my math's wrong seven seven days i hope because it is seven no it is we're not recording early no but it was more i embellished stories sometimes to make them sound

with me anyway the whole so i'm giving you props for getting so many people to submit so early but my yeah i was pretty surprised for sure like my older brother i sent it out to my whole family in like a group chat and stuff my older brother returned it and like 30 minutes or something. Nice. That's awesome. Just answered half of it or something. If I don't send it to you in the next couple days or tonight, just remind me, just send me a DM, and I can send you like the unlocked access to the same original site.

And then you can look to see who submitted what in depth. Nice. But sometimes I forget to do that because it's, you know, got a lot of my plate and a busy guy. There's a busy dink. So when you sent it to them, which I think is what Keith was trying to get to, how did you explain? how did you explain what you were doing? I've probably talked about like Masonomics a decent amount but never

probably never unpaid and underrated before. Why not? Awesome. Ow, keeps that. You're good, buddy. You would beat around the bush enough that I was like, ah, we're good. That was a good enough of an answer.

I'd take it. Right. But no, I explained to them all about the discord and everything and how like the unpaid and underrated to kind of like boost the discord and makes it a wholeer experience and everything. Do you hear that, Tanner? We boost the Discord. That's a pretty good praise, you know, I like that.

He's not the one we have to sell to. Yeah, that's true, yeah, yeah, someone, someone, someone, someone clip this and sent it to Tommy, so he knows what's going on. If anybody gets it, it's, it's tenor right now. For sure, for sure. All right, you ready for a little game there, Peter? Yeah. I'm going to let you

describe how to play lease fun most to your friends and family if you don't mind if you remember how to play okay yeah least fun well you describe a topic and then you describe the least fun thing about that topic or the most

fun part about that topic I guess simple terms yep I started to put you on the spot there I just say sometimes it's nice to hear people you know their interpretation of it or whatever But yeah, least fun, most fun. So I'm going to give Peter a single topic and he's going to use his druthers and explain in-depth or not in-depth, you know, the least fun thing as well as the most fun. So it's not either or it is both.

So Big Peter, I hope this is accurate because it might have got some conflicting information, but I'm going to run with it. So least fun, most fun, being a vegetarian lifter. Okay. Well, truthfully, I broke it about two weeks ago. Oh, Jesus. But how long were you, how long were you in that, like, we'll have? Five and a half, five and a half year. So you can still, you're still a valid question that you can answer.

Oh, yeah. Okay, let's hear it. Definitely. Yeah, least fun is, like, the thought of, am I getting the most out of my, the thought of my, the thought of my strength gain. Because, like, so much in, like, the strength industry, like, oh, we've ever been taught is, like, you got to eat meat, meat, meat, you know. So, yeah, you think about like this alternative universe where I kept on eating meat while lifting and would I have been stronger in that situation.

Most fun, I, yeah. Well, there was that Netflix documentary a while back. I forgot what it was called. I think my new doctor wanted me to watch that because his whole thing was like, you don't need to eat me. meat watch this right you know pushing like plant-based for you know and like stringed athletes because there's like a strong man and like an endurance athlete or something in it right yeah i have not watched it yeah which yeah it's a documentary so like take it for what it is you know but uh yeah i mean it was just intriguing and everything um just so the whole thing was just curiosity with health

and stuff but i think the most intriguing part of that was basically like you know talking about like blood flow and everything. So basically brains and boners, you know. So, yeah, more, uh, better erections. It was definitely the highlight from the male perspective, you know. I mean, or the female perspective, you know. Right. We're receiving it for sure.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's always, you know, what feels. It's always nice to have a good erection, but it's what you do with it that's really important. Right. really vulgar analogy I was going to use it. Yeah. I will catch you off real quick. I just noticed that Big Lou is also a master completer.

I don't know how I, the way the tab was. It was like the, yeah, so yeah, Big Lou also before I get dragged in the fucking comments. So I have, I have a question and as somebody who does eat a ton of meat and,

you know, judgment-free zone. No, I was just, I was just wondering what broke it. And if you don't mind me asking why. Because I will, I'll preface this, huge respect for vegetarians and vegans. I love everything they do.

I appreciate the discipline and all of that. But I do just have this kind of like, what was the one thing or why? Yeah. Yeah, so just two weeks ago, I pretty much just mostly started eating fish, getting back into it and stuff. But I want to just fill out the 275 open stuff. class a little more. So just going to see if I can gain weight in like a healthy manner, basically. Because yeah, I think it does possibly affect your metabolism and everything. And how did, like, how did your body react? Was it your body was like, what the hell is this or

was it okay? Yeah, because I did eat like red meat at first. And yeah, that didn't go so well. No, no. Yeah, your body would be pissed after a long time for that. Right. I shouldn't have went to the local barbecue spot and got the garbage fries, I would say. So you're going pescatarian, I think it's called? Yeah, kind of just at home. And then like I'll do like the flexitarian thing for going out and stuff, which means, yeah, you do vegetarian or pescatarian at home. And then you kind of just do whatever you like when you go out to eat and stuff. But yeah, I want to make like exceptions. for like whether it be a cultural or a social experience or something. Cultural example would be we went to this like Pakistani restaurant last week.

I don't even know if they had a vegetarian option, honestly. It's shocking because normally they do. And then yeah, socially, you know, if I go to Tanner's the Friday before the Lift Hard Livese, I'll definitely have, you know, pull pork sandwich. and stuff, just to, you know, be a part of the group and stuff. They're so good. I could literally taste that sandwich right now. It's so good. No, I understand that.

I was just, that was just wondering. But yeah, there's probably not a lot of people in the Discord that are vegetarians, so yeah, good question. And if there is, they don't talk about it. Right. Right? Because I wonder, again, there is that stigma of, right, like, lifters who

are vegetarian, everybody's like, oh, yeah, I'm sure they'll tell you right away, blah, blah, blah. But, like, no, like, diet is diet. Stick to your diet. Whatever's comfortable for you, do it. Can you move on to... Go ahead. Give me one second.

I got a brief update on Discord. Everyone, I always post, like, a screen grab of the, you know, the podcast. And Mofo's response was any bets on how many Dick's jokes Keith's going to make. And then Big Colton came out of left field with tagging Big David because Peter is another word for Weiner. And then that's gotten a lot of... a lot of dick emoji response. Nailed it. It's very funny, and I enjoy that. I heard that one. Yeah, never heard that one.

And I think I actually avoided all the low-hanging fruit of Big Peter on the entire episode so far. But I probably did have a dick joke in there somewhere else unrelated, though. All right. Insert, sophomoric genital reference. Still funny. So the hype person question, do you know what this is? Have you heard about it? Have you seen this?

Do you know? The hype person? question. Yep. All right. You're about to go for your big lift. Doesn't matter what that big lift is, whatever your big lift is. And you have the option of having one person in your corner that's going to slap your back, yell at you, hype you up. Living past, present, dead, doesn't matter who is that person. Nice. That is my oldest best friend, Andy, Andy McArdle, his name is. I'm going to trying to get him, I'm trying to get him into the crew, but I'm definitely going to get him a certified training facility flag, but he, uh, he kind of helped me get back into lifting and

stuff. Um, but yeah, we've been talking about it weekly forever and, yeah, we've done, uh, we'll have this, uh, we have this family like power lifting competition. Um, and he's come out every year for it and stuff. So definitely good hype man for sure. good what is your favorite lift my favorite lift um it's always going to be the one that I'm

worst at you know oddly enough um so probably is the deadlift honestly is that one that you just need to improve the most so you become just obsessed with it you know oh I know

believe me I know that's it's funny Because at first I was like, oh, the one that I'm the worst at that I want to be, yeah, that's bench. But no, I am obsessed with that lifts in all forms. Right? There's a lot of forms. Did you say family powerlifting meat? What do you mean about that?

Yeah, so it's, so my younger brother bought the trophy and like put the name on it. He didn't really understand the difference between the strength sports. But it's the, we call it the Bruno Strongman Classico. um you know adding in the the bruno italian influence in there yeah yeah yeah but uh it's basically a squat bench deadlift but it technically you know it takes place at a strongman gym so that's yeah i guess it fits but it's we've been doing it uh like five years now and every fall um it's just so much fun um so it's my younger and my older brother my best friend and then my brother's wives. I'll compete in my wife

as well, who I've been coaching for the past few years. Yeah. That's what you guys. That is awesome. That's fun. That is very cool. And is it like, does the biggest total actually get the trophy, or is the trophy just

randomly here? You hold this for a year or there's like... Yeah, you hold it for a year. We'll have one for the guys, one for the girls, and we'll use like dot score. Okay, okay. That's actually, yeah, because I was like, biggest total would be.

be kind of hard, right, like to, you know, because that's probably not going to change if there's like a large discrepancy and, like, just human sizes and strength levels between the family. And, yeah, my best friend and my wife kind of just, I've been running the, running the show, really. Andy's, like, a 600 pounds, squatter and deadlifter, so. Jesus. And then, Kate's become pretty dedicated and stuff. And she's, she's very strong.

She's actually, actually related to friend of the podcast, Stan Efforting. She's his second cousin, so she's got in her blood, you know. Yeah, tell her to just, I hope you guys don't own any combo racks. You know, you got to be careful with those. Okay. Actually, I just. I don't get that reference. Yeah, and I'm, because I messed up and it was the complete wrong person, so don't worry.

I was thinking of, I was thinking of the vanilla gorilla who is not Stan Efforting. That's a completely different person. I made an error. Oh, but my favorite part was I just, I just accepted it. Nope, I was like, yep, he made a joke and I don't get it. And it turns out like I don't get it double time. Yeah, there we go. Thank you, Mr.

Wrong again, Keith. Oh, God. Ryan got you. Getting roasted in the comments here. Wrong again, Keith. Wrong again, Keith. Do you want to talk about your job at all because you have probably one of the coolest crew jobs? Yeah. Oh, for sure. I am a brewer. I'm currently lead brewer and safety manager. I had a five-year stretch as a head brewer, but it got a little bit stressful. So they were able to let me kind of change it up.

Okay. So head brewer is top brewer? Head brewer is like the manager of the brewhouse. I manage the staff. I would do all of the purchases. Oh, yeah, no, yep, I see that. Yep, forget that. It was a desk job, really, so it's been nice, like, getting back on my feet and stuff and being able to move around and everything. But, yeah, before that, I worked in the cellar for, like, two and a half years, which is, like, all your, like, tank-to-tank transfers and dry hopping and, like, yeast harvesting and everything.

And then I worked in packaging for a year before that. So, 11 years. at Jelly Pumpkin and North Peak is where I'm currently at. And then I worked in Indianapolis at Sun King Brewing Company for about a year and a half getting my foot in the door. But yeah, there's been like definitely some ups and downs in the industry. I'd say like the craft beer peak was probably around like 2017. Definitely a little bit down at the moment.

But, you know, we're we've had some struggles, but we're hanging in there. You just have to diversify lately and stuff. You know, like the younger generations aren't so into the craft beer. So we have to do like, you know, we're doing like a fruited vodka water at the moment and stuff. Yeah, mixing it up and diversifying. But no, it's been cool, though. You learn a lot. I went to an online brewing school.

It was called the Intensive Brewing Science and Engineering Program through the American Brewers Guild. I also worked a bit through the Ciceroon studying, which is like the beer equivalent of a Somali. I got my like second level at that. It took me like three years to study for that exam and went to Chicago for that one. There's also an advanced cicerone and like a master cisterone level. There's only like 10 master cisterones in the world. So it's pretty intense. But, yeah, no, I've definitely enjoyed my time in the industry for sure.

Would you like a live question from the listeners there, Peter, about, you know, brewing? So Big David wants to know, do people still get growlers at breweries? That's a popular thing? It isn't as popular as it was. I'm sure everybody has like 20 of them in their basement still. but yeah but yeah they also had like the crowlers that was like a big craze for a while where it was like a you know 32 ounce can but yeah you don't see it so much anymore i think especially once like we switched from like bottles to cans and cans are just like so portable anyways um but yeah you don't

see them quite as much but i think most tap rooms still fill growlers though i used to do them all the time But my problem with growlers is you got to drink them within 72 hours. Yeah. So you'd come home, you'd crack it, and you're like, oh, great, I have to drink an entire wine bottle worth of beer in the next three days. Right. I think that was the big problem. I have a question.

Yeah. Now, as Lee Brewer, you are in charge of brewing? Like, do you create beers? Yeah. Well, Head Brewer comes up with the recipe. But since I did it for so long, I'm still, like, asked about it for my input and stuff because I, you know, developed a skill for it. There's, I mean, it's an art form, not just a science, and not everybody can do that, you know. So they still ask me, but lead brewer, well, the brewery had to shrink, unfortunately, in recent years.

So I'm, like, the only brewer. So I execute all the work production. just me. So it's quite a job, you know, and I'm a safety manager too, and that's, yeah,

struggle in itself for sure. But in the downtime, I come up with recipes and like, and like, and that's two hats with one ass, then it sounds like,

you know, I'm not sure where the horse gets in, but. And that's what I was going to ask. I have a two-part question of that. What's your favorite hops to work with? Okay. Um,

uh, I like, Mandarin Bavaria. It's kind of like a blend of like the German noble hop character, but also it's a daughter of Cascades. So you have like that citrusy character. So I've written a lot of nice recipes, especially like a hoppy wheat beer.

It's like an awesome hop to use and so versatile. That's probably been my favorite hop. But there's so many that have come and gone. It's always been like your main. sea hops, your cascade, your Chinook, Centennial, those have just always hung out. And I think it's mostly just going back to those now that we're through like the hype beer phase and everything and the shiny object on the shelf phase, you know, it's just going back to those like basic hops.

And that's what the growers I work with are saying now they're kind of, they weren't able to sell like those hyped up hops anymore. So now they're just going back to the sea hops. As my wife likes to call them grapefruit farts. Second question, what's the craziest concoction you've come up with?

Okay. Yeah, Jolly Pumpkin is known for being eccentric. It's all Oak Age sour beer. Yeah, sours get wild. Yeah.

So... There's a Jolly Rancher sour. What the fuck ask for that? I came up with a beer a few years back that not all of my co-workers even have seemed to enjoy much. So it was a like a juniper, a sour juniper stout with chocolate. So chocolate juniper. So it was a lot going on. And it turned out like pretty sour because like juniper berries are like real tart for sure.

It's like it's chocolate gin. I think that might be the only one that likes it well I love juniper berries I have a big giant my entire the front of my house is all juniper bushes and it is one of my favorite scents and sometimes I'll just walk out and give the leaves a slap just so I can smell them

I can't see I don't think I can see juniper chocolate going so that's that's pretty wild that's awesome is wet hops I've seen So many beer questions. I'm sorry, Keith. I'm boring the shit out of the Keith right now.

One of the best beers I ever had was a wet hops beer. And, you know, because you get your dried hops because you buy them in bulk and you get them delivered to you and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But there was one brewery that specifically was like they did a wet hops beer. And it was the greatest thing I think I've ever had. Now, it was like 9% or something like that. So you can only have two before you go to bed. but have you ever made a wet hops beer and tell me the difference between making the two making the two what exactly dry hops versus wet hops oh okay gotcha um yeah so a wet hop beer would

be like 24 to 48 hours off of the vine into the kettle or the dry hop or the bright fermentation vessel um we've yeah we've been making them for our north peak brand as like what we call our clean beers, you know, so our IPAs and wheat beers and everything, Pilsners. So we've been making one wet hop diabolical. Diabolical is our main IPA since, yeah, years back. I don't think we're actually going to make it this year, unfortunately. It's one of my, I mean, it's my favorite time of year with the harvest because you get to go

out to the farm and, like, see all the sites and all the smells and, like, see the big wolf machine like ripping the hops off the vine and everything and it just smells like incredible um but yeah we did like a huge hop back we have like a 10 barrel system and a 50 barrel system so we just like load our 10 barrel mash ton up with like 500 pounds of hops and then we would just like run the whart after the boil through there and then to the heat exchanger and into the fermentation vessel. So, like, the whole day, it just smells, like, incredible in the brewery. You've got to kind of drink them when they're pretty fresh.

They don't really last super long on the shelf and everything. They're tap only for the most part. Right. Yeah. Totally. Oh, I love them, though. Yeah, me too. And they're so hard to find.

Yeah, you're going to be harder and harder, unfortunately. But, yeah, maybe they'll make a comeback, though. I think that'd be awesome. Yeah, my favorite brewery is, one in Bath, Ontario called McKinnon.

And they, they're a farm. Like, they're a farm. They have, same with Bench here in Ontario, uh,

in Grimsby. They, you can go and pick their hops. They don't encourage you to do that, but you can. And they're right there on the field.

So they've done a wet hops. And I was at a time, friends with their head brewer. And, uh, I did get to try their wet hops, but absolutely. Like,

that's the best. right right off the vine into the vat oh yeah that's awesome all right that's enough work talk

Keith what do you got oh I don't know I got some beer questions probably you know I had enough of those I had a

I had a McAulcher this weekend I'm a bit of a beer guy big beer guy um gung What's, what's kung fu lifting teaching? Are you, are you into kung fu? I don't know, the sentence is just, if there's supposed to be a comma here,

are you into a kung fu? What are you looking at? Under things they love, it says kung fu. We're all into kung fu. I definitely have some history in martial arts. I went to school for criminal justice, and I was a corrections officer for a few years. So, got, I did Croft Maga for a year. That blows my mind.

That's the one thing I've always said I would get into. Oh, it's never did. It just covers every, all the bases, you know, just in one martial art. How many grind shots in Karamagah? Like, it's all 50% grain shots. Big part of it. Yeah, you had to hold the pad low and then you just try and kick as hard as you can. Frash level pad.

You get pretty good. at it and yeah oh man it was it was pretty intense for sure you learn the strikes and the takedowns and just so much technique and like it was pretty similar to like the corrections academy and stuff a lot of the technique of course you can't punch so it would be like using your palm strike instead of a punt um but then yeah years later i got into a keto which is a Japanese martial art that is fully defensive, basically the exact opposite of Krav Maga.

There's no stress involved. It's just evasive maneuvers like using somebody's momentum against and everything. You know, throwing them to the ground. That's not the one that Bruce Lee invented. No, that was G-Cundo. Okay, thank you, yep.

The best martial art for sure. Because, yeah, Gicundo was, basically he just took the best moves from every single school. And that was Gicundo, you know? Of course he did. And it was like controversial at the time for sure. Yeah, he was a Wing Chun Fist, like purist and stuff and came from that era, you know. I was always curious how accurate the movie, was it the Dragon, the Bruce Lee story, like the early 90s movie was. that's like you know obviously covered like all of that and he had to like have like like border it was supposed to be like a fight to the death to like you know if he could like continue to teach or not like of this like well it's because it's because he taught the guileo which he wasn't supposed to do

i love briefly though his whole story was crazy yeah like the fact that he filmed all those movies in like a two year period it's just ridiculous yeah uh guileau means wide eyes Keith and that's he got in shit for for teaching the Americans and he wasn't supposed to do that that's why they called him into that. I don't know if that part is true but he did get in a lot of shit for teaching Americans. It was like the meeting of the five families. Yeah. Oh geez, I can go on about kung fu movies for hours. Keith interrupt me. We can do kung fu movies, beer, what else? I had a train of thought there. It just left me.

Um, so I would, go ahead. So you, you do the big lifting thing with your friends and family. What about just like, are you active in strong man? Are you active in power lifting? Like, then like sanction shows. I want to hear your lifting history on the, as far as that goes, you know? Yeah, as far as competitions. Um, I've done like five probably.

I did a Great Lake Strongest Man, uh, three times as a novice. Um, wait now. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. And did your friends give you a hard time for that? Because, you know, some of these assholes in Discord think that you're only to do novice one time and that, you know, no, you know, even if you come in dead last. I don't think anybody said one time. I think it's every time.

Well, I did it two more. I did it actually one more time than he did. So I don't get any, he didn't get any shit. Not yet. Well, actually, no, I think I did it novice twice. Oh, now the story. Generally, I went to open 220 and under just got. killed. Yeah. And then I went back to novice, but in heavyweight. Oh,

this time. So it's cool. It was like a step up, but certainly a step back, but no, I was not ready for the 220 open. Like, Strongman is hard, man. It's like, uh, it was crazy. I don't think people, I don't think people understand the barrier to entry. Like, if you have to already be fucking strong, you can't just go out and lift the bar, like you can't empower lifting. You, you know, unless it's just, It's definitely a bigger, you know, barrier entry for sure. And it's essentially, you know, aren't strong enough. You kind of just can't compete. Right.

That is awesome. And then, yeah, last month I did Battle on the Beach, which is Nick O'Hare's show. And that was my first time in the 275 and under Open. And, you know, he's like the top dog for like OSG and like the most competitive like 105. strongman out there and stuff. So it was like, it was a heavy show. Nice. How'd you do there? So, yeah, that was part of my like reason for like taking the meat back on and stuff,

trying to fill out that class and see if I can get a little bigger, increase the leverages for deadlift and overhead press. Yeah, because it was, it was heavy. Nice. And you had mentioned going to Tyler's every now and then. So Tyler's public gym that he trains at, is that just because you only have so much strongman stuff at your gym and you just want the variety or what i'm pretty well equipped i just kind of want the i want the community um and i don't have a coach so you go to a place like that and

like everybody's just so friendly and like willing to give you tips um especially if they see you like struggling with form and things like that everybody's just so nice there so it's that aspect that I'm missing from like just coaching my, or coming up with my own programming and lifting mostly by myself and stuff. So I just want that community. But that place is,

Detroit Muscle Gym is just, you know, the best gym in Michigan for Strongman. They just have everything. And it's only 20 minutes from me. I can't beat that. So why not? That's worth the one. I mean, I, you know, it sounds like you already kind of got an intention to go on there periodically. But yeah, once

people come from more than an hour away. Once a month, minimum, would probably be fun to get in there. And do they do like a Strongman Saturday or anything? Like where it's actually like more of an opening. Like there's actually like events and, you know, big group training and all that. Yeah. Every Saturday, 8 a.m. It's like a $10.

I can't beat that. Totally worth it. And then they have so many classes. They actually have like a kid's class and a kids competition. So my son wants to, my five year old Jonah wants to do it now. That's awesome. they have like a child's like hussifel stone like but brought a tear to my eye seeing it you know yeah that is awesome yeah filling out the uh the gym with the strongman stuff this past couple years has

been very fun so i i get it now i didn't get it the last eight years and now i do oh it's awesome i've been enjoying senior progress for sure in that gym thank you thank you um So what's on your getting anything coming up that you're going to do for, for competitions or any big pieces of equipment you're trying to still add to the gym or anything? Man, it's always something. Equipment-wise, I've definitely skipped over some things. I don't have a circus dumbbell. I want to advance my throwing setup.

I have four quarter-barrel kegs that I want to hit up a welder and have them take out like the middle third section. to make them some like proper throwing kegs. So I think that'll be cool. And then I just want to source the materials for a circus dumbbell and like have a welder make it. I'm careful with cheapen out on that. I know Big Dan Eager just had a welder make one out of the propit, the old propane tank design. And like one session later, I think his plates are still stuck inside of it because it bent to shit. Oh, yeah.

If you find a regular, if you find a welder that you can do like actual like real metal, like, you know. It doesn't proper steel for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think, you know, you've got to be able to get one of those for 300 bucks or less, hopefully, you know, if you can find someone willing to do it. Yeah, and then not. The $1,000 would cost to buy a bar toadose one. Right.

Oh, those are so cool, though. I do like my. But, yeah, competitions coming up. I've had the family competition October 4th. And then I have stage two of the armlifting super series for this year at Detroit Muscle Gym. This Saturday, actually. Oh, dope. So, yeah, I've been working on that.

Trying to train a little better than the first round. I got, like, some grip attachments and stuff. So, yeah, been training properly for it. Yeah, it's been fun. I've been enjoying the grip. Grip's a cool thing, too, because you can add, you know, for a few hundred dollars, honestly, for less than $100, you can get in the door and, like, buy the cheapest shit ever. But then, like, you know, for a few hundred dollars, you could get pretty much everything.

thing you'd want, you know, so that's kind of a cool thing to add. Like, I think the Denny's are, well, Denny's are, you know, grip-adjacent, but they're still pretty damn cool. Right. Hublifting and all that jazz. I'm still not super into it, but I got a lot of friends that do it. And, you know, just the older you get, you got to kind of diversify yourself because you don't want to keep doing the same thing for 30 years.

Right. Yeah, that hub is the toughest, I'd say. So other than Tyler, what other crew have you met in person? Scott Dodds. I mentioned Dodds, yeah, yeah. Anybody else? I can't remember. I feel like I'm going to meet somebody and realize that I've already met them before.

But, well, I met you with the Arnold this past year. I'm bearing the lead, you know. How was the Arnold, okay? That was the first time I've... What he means was how did it feel meeting me? No, it was more of a, I met like 50 people at the Arnold. Oh, yeah, I did meet Peter. Right, yeah.

Right. But yeah, I met Tanner and Tommy, so that was awesome. Oh, then you should have, you met like a whole, you had to have met a shit ton of crew. Were you? Because did you go there to watch Strongman? I don't remember you been at the booth very much, were you? No, it was just, we had never been there before. So we wanted to kind of see all the sites for the first time we went.

I think we're going to do it a little bit different, this next year and we'll do uh we'll just hang out like at the booth and uh the expo like friday and then saturday i think we'll do like the strong man ticket um that's fair an expo would be like super busy anyway i think that'd be the way to go it's yeah yeah i'd agree with that that might be if i make it back this year if if a big hogan has a spare room with my name on it and i can actually afford to go to the you know the arnold again um that might be something I would do. I'd do like a, you know, some amount of strong men because, you know, it's, it's not like

it used to be where you just go and watch the strong man. You got to, well, you can watch the, you know, the amateur stuff, but the, the pro am that is, but you can't watch the actual Arnold Classic without paying out the ass. But you also don't want to, like, do all that and then miss the booth time. So it is, but, yeah, being the first year, it is kind of hard because it's like, all right, well, I'll circle back to you guys and see it in a little bit. And then it's like it takes you four hours to fucking do the lap because there's just traffic. just a literal human traffic right and I went with Kate and like I think she'll be bringing a friend next year so I just didn't want to feel like I was going to like abandon her and stuff you know but but you're gonna yes I know the first the first year we went I brought the wife and kids and I was just like I'm sorry bye like she was like I don't want to do that again you're too all over the place you can't

We can't be here with you because, you know, you're getting dragged everywhere. Let's get into some silly stuff before we get into some games. Let's do it. Yeah, hit it. Okay, tell me about your communal shower with your friend whose name escapes me. Oh, Andrew, or Andy?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. He always, like, he'll mention things, like, out of context. And, like, especially in front of, like, girls, you know, when we're younger. So it always, I'd always like create these situations for me. But yeah,

we, so he'll say like, remember the time we showered together? But then he wouldn't say like, that we were at the, he wouldn't say we were at the YMCA. Yeah. And we had our bathing suits on.

Like, so with the context, it makes a lot more sense and not as outrageous. So hit me with the context. There's a very funny story here. Right? No, that's it yeah we were we were at the ymca and uh yeah we had bathing suits on we were just

taking a shower after the pool and stuff and but yeah he'll he'll bring that up we were like 16 like years we were like seven years old at the time he brought it up and we were like 16 and you know there's girls and you know we're in our like awkward phase or close to it and he's like Remember that towered together? How did he lose the tooth? Oh, he lost a tooth wrestling my younger brother. And it was my younger brother's skull that he like broke the tooth on. Oh, it was pretty bad.

Okay, that's not the story I got, but that's okay. Oh. um okay was it uh involving a a sex excapade no gosh no sir essentially okay i'll tell the story the chat gbt version of it is you guys were fighting in the shower a bit and then he went to run away from you and he slipped and smashed his tooth oh okay no i don't remember that one but Andy has an incredible memory so we were probably super young at the time

yeah all right no no sex capade stories I don't she's not on this podcast today um all right

what's a vampire shotgun ah I just added that to fucking unpaid her underre yeah forget you're no no it's fine no it's fine it's probably better as a story here so no worries

Oh, I'll definitely get this going at Tanners next year. So, yeah, you take, I got my LaCro here, you just take your can. It's basically a shotgun, but you're going to just bite into the can. You get your teeth out as far as you can, and then you just build that pressure up and bite into it. And then you pull the tab. My poor teeth hate that. I've done it many times. it at jolly pumpkin with co-workers we get on like social media you've been one time and uh man

whenever i get in a group of with like those co-co workers of that time like and we're having a party or something they're always like make me do it and i'm like i'm not doing it unless everybody else does it with me so we get like a circle of people around and we'll all do it but yeah it's it's a lot It's not as bad as you think, though. You don't, like, cut yourself so much. Oh, geez. But it's pretty intense to look at, though. Okay.

What about the time you dislocated your shoulder at the perfect priming timing? Okay. That was, was that from my wife? Mm-hmm. Yeah, so that was a good one. um so i was pushing my yoke using it as a sled um hands forward pushing it and my while i had like you know probably 400 pounds on the yoke um my foot slipped and while i was pushing i dropped down all the sudden and yeah my left shoulder just fell out and it was so painful i screamed and

like, you know, that blood rushes to your head and you just get dizzy a second. And then, yeah, so I go to the back door and I yell out, Kate, hospital. I couldn't, I was in so much pain. I couldn't talk at all. And then she's like, what? Hospital. And then so I was, she had our like, one or two year old. son with her at the time while I was outside training and I just am sitting in a chair there

and I kind of like sat down in a way where I kind of was able to alleviate the pressure off of my shoulder and like over time it like worked itself back into the socket somehow so I didn't end up having to go to the hospital but Kate came out like 10 minutes later just all changed ready with like Jonah and probably the child seed or something. Yep. And she was pretty pissed. It's okay, I got it.

All right. Keith, do you want to move on some games there, bud? Yeah. I could do a little FMK for you. We go Strongman events. So you got to, let's see, you got an F1,

you got to marry one, you got to kill one. So let's go... I just might as well keep it under the keg. So let's let's see. So keg over bar. It's just like a, you know, a triple extension over the boat, you know, a loading event. Keg toss and then Keg carry, FMK.

All right. With others. Um, I guess I'll kill the keg toss, just because you don't see it so much in competition. compared to most other things for sure. This last competition I had was the only competition I was able to do a throw-in, which was super fun. So I'll kill that.

Definitely don't see it a lot at local events for sure. It's just too much risk and shit getting damaged, and then it's like you're destroying your implements, and you've got to have the right kind of place to do it. Right. So you said load, and then what was the other one? carry carry okay toss load carry i guess that was kind of off the cuff one i came up with because i didn't want to ask your questions i will i will marry the load just because it's such a fundamental for strong man and stuff

and the keg is it's just so unique um and you can go like so heavy with it because it has the handles on it and stuff you can really push the weight on it without a lot of skill involved um so i will marry that being the fundamental and then yeah so i'll have to i'll have to fuck the last one um the carry yeah i i love some keg carries um i'm a bit taller so it's a little bit easier for me definitely have the advantage in loading carrying um and disadvantage on the press and deadlift but i kind of enjoy it that way having the disadvantage so what did you think of the the mystery Did you watch the live stream, the Lifese? I didn't watch the live stream, but I saw, like, the YouTube video and everybody's video and stuff.

So you saw the mystery event, then, of the carry and the load and all that, jazz? I was definitely most bummed that I wasn't there just because of that event, probably. It looks like a lot of fun. The least fun thing about it, huh? Yeah, and Jake worked so hard to put that all together. It seemed like it was awesome. I mean, for sure Abby did all the work, but yeah, for sure. Oh, geez.

They're good, good team effort. No, that's cool. It was a good one. Yeah. All right, Mount Rushmore time. Do it. Here's a new, a new one. We don't get a lot of new ones on these.

What's your favorite wrestler? Yeah. Favorite metal, favorite metal band, favorite wrestler. Mount Rushmore of Topps, Donor comedies. Oh, that's an easy one. oh man okay um it's gonna be friday the first and only the first friday yeah that ones were ass the next friend we're three we're the three for mount rushmore's sake i mean i would just say the first one um and then it would be pineapple express um i can watch

that movie just over and over doesn't matter how many times i've seen it's I can just keep watch. I can watch it once a month. Just so all the lines, all the quotable lines in it and everything. I have always loved the Cheech and Chong films. However, I'll say, up in smoke being the first one, probably being my favorite for sure. That, oh, such a good movie, just a classic.

I hear they have another one coming out too But it's more of like a documentary Or they call it like the final One They gotta be in their 70s aren't they Right I think it's more of like a documentary though for sure Because yeah like

Cheech Marin kind of like rejected the whole thing For like 10 or 20 years You know wanted to put it behind him and stuff Yeah so he's kind of He was like he did a He did was that Nash Bridges He was in crime show Yeah, yeah, he went legit.

He was like the sidekick cop or something. Yeah, it was quite a 180 there. And then the final one would probably be how high for sure. Hell yeah. Such a good movie. Just the premise of. Just so stupid, so stupid. They buried their friend's ashes in a pot of it.

you got you got red man I'm a ghost I'm a ghost I'm a ghost I'm a ghost just walking into cars like what a fucking

stupid movie still a great movie though absolutely yep no no days and confused on that list

that would have been on mine but that's I love that movie though I'm also that one's not better than how high no hell no

maybe it's not as a no I don't know a stoner specific is a movie in general I'm sure. There were definitely some stoner moments in it.

You're right. Dave Chappelle's one, if I had to pick a fifth one. The alien face. Yes. No, you're right. I'm surprised I didn't go higher on the list. Right. What was the name of that?

But the one that Bob Sagitt had the line about... Yeah, yeah. Oh, you wouldn't suck dick for weed. Yeah, yeah. God, I watched that movie like a million times. Why can't remember the name? It's so many, like, quotable lines in that one, too. Oh, yeah, 100%.

Bring me back some of that stuff I used to eat in high school. Come on, Jim Brewer. If only, where's our, did we lose our, looky, lose? Yeah, where's Gary? Right. Samson gets me laughed at. Samson, Simpson. Come on. Right near the beach, boy.

I can remember the whole movie, but I can't remember the name? Oh, they're going to rip us for this, guys. God, I'll have to put in the Lugel. The old Lugel machine. That's all good. Movies and Teguishes. Oh, half-baked. Fuck me.

There it is. That big. Yeah. God damn it. That's right. Gosh, darn it. Yeah, no, 100%. I would have put that right up there at the top.

Right. Samson, Samson. All right. Moving on, paid and underrated. Let's do it. All right. We're doing my whole freaking... But yes, you know,

anyone listening to the first time, we have this, you know, relatively new segment we came up with all by ourselves, not inspired by anyone or anything, called unpaid or underrated. So we're going to give the guest here Big Peter, up to six different topics, and he just kind of has to use his druthers and explain to us if he considers them unpaid, which would, you know, the laymen's might say

overrated or underrated, which, you know, would be awesome. So here we go, unpaid or underrated. I'm going to steal the one that Joey put in there because it's going to be the funniest one, and I'm going to say titty twisters. Oh. Yeah, it's definitely a story with that. That's why we're here. that is unpaid for sure the only time i ever punch someone was due to this

let's hear it i want to hear it all the gory nipple twisting details this was another andy question for sure it was like a sleepover and i don't know we were like way too old to be having sleepovers but i think it was like birthday party so that's what he wanted to do um so yeah it was uh old one of my classmates, Matt Grams, he was just like, he was kept on, he kept on like messing with me. So it was like three times. The first time I asked politely, like, hey, man, don't do that. The second time I yelled at him. And then the third time, I just, I mean, I just hit him. It was probably like one in the morning and stuff. We were all like tired as hell. from playing video games or whatever.

And yeah, it was the only time I ever punched somebody, but I don't know. I felt like it was, looking back, it was self-defense, I feel. I mean, yeah, really. Exact same. And I added it because I do have the exact same similar story. I was with my brothers and my oldest brother was there and he kept doing it to me.

And I, again, hey, man, I really don't like that. Like, I really. don't like, could you stop? And we'd go a few minutes, he'd do it again. I'm like, okay, I asked you nicely. And now my older brother is three feet taller than me.

Oh, wow. Yeah, right? And I'm like, five, ten? Yeah, sure. And I'm like, hey man, I really asked you nicely. Like, I'm telling you this is uncomfortable. I don't like it. And then he did it again. And I kicked him in the balls

with all of them. The third time. he did it I yeah all of my leg strength kicked him in the balls and when he dropped I went oh did you not like that would you not like it if I did it again would you like to ask me again not to do that do you think that maybe is a thing where if somebody doesn't like it you don't do it like oh yeah like I I hate my fucking nipples being touched it's just a yeah so I'm with you on that brother right yeah like my little personal space bubble here yeah especially that space don't right like i'm an easygoing guy ask you nicely but firmly don't do it again that's why i added that one in because i was like i yep same same all right unpaid or underrated oh a couple good

ones uh let's go gardening oh yeah under underrated for sure i love gardening um it's just such a good stress reliever um and you get you know basically free like organic vegetables especially like with stuff as expensive as it is now like you save so much money and you don't really realize it and you can also like if you have enough space you can grow stuff to like give to your friends and family and help them out too and they like greatly appreciate it and you get you get to learn so much um for my hobbies you know i have a kid and full-time job and stuff so i kind of want like three things involved with them i want them to be like i have a physical component a learning component and like kind of a social

component. It's like the best way to go about hobbies is what I think and I think gardening hits all three of those marks for sure. Nice nice little hobby there for sure. My last one unpaid or underrated

thank you cards, thank you notes writing thank you notes. Oh that was definitely for my mom. Yeah, there's a story there. I want to hear you just tell me about it. I am definitely known for, like, my brevity and, like, not being the most outgoing person or very talkative and stuff. So I, uh, it was high school graduation. And, like, my mom was, like, pasturing me about writing the thank you nose. And I, I still, like, don't write a lot of thank you notes. Like, I'll say thank you in person, but I'm just terrible at right now.

I haven't written one in years. And so my thank you. cards for that occasion would basically be like one sentence like thank you for and that specific item love peter that's fair and she my mom was like not having it but all by like aunts and uncles just thought it was like hilarious like so peter you know all right my turn unpaid or underrated small talk small talk i'm yeah it definitely goes along with like the introversion thing i feel like um i will say unpaid for sure i i'm kind of a you know a big talker for sure like i'll be asking you about like your family life and how everybody's doing and stuff like i can't

really talk about the weather and the basic conversations that people have you know I was going to say, like, same. And I want to give you the inside scoop on how to make small talk. Load the weather app. It's just every once in a while, you load the weather app when you know you got to make small talk. And that's what you got. That's the thing that will get you through that awful, awful few moments. No, that's a good tip.

oh yeah i heard there's rain later and then like you're going you're fine because they'll talk right totally i'm the same way i'm in uh unpaid or underrated geez um chocolate milk oh it's so underrated it's the i mean especially uh if you go with the whole milk too oh it's so good, so rich. It is like the best recovery drink. I did it. I would drink it all the time when I, back when I was doing like triathlon and stuff. I mean, just the protein content and you have the carbs in there. And I mean, you have those, those growth hormones, you know, from the cow and stuff. And so it's just like the complete recovery beverage. I remember once I had a post like what's your best

post workout drink some guy commented on her thing saying don't drink chocolate milk because calcium dehydrates you and this was like right at the beginning of like my lifting and I was just like hey man can you show me anything that proves that and like I dummied this dude

in this girl's comments because he was like well I just thought that calcium was a mineral and minerals are bad. And I was like, you fucking dummy, like, chocolate milk is so good as a recovery drink. If your stomach can handle it, you should be drinking chocolate milk

for that reason, yeah. And we have, like, some awesome farms in Michigan. Yeah, incredible chocolate milk around here. We got one, we go out to right down the street from us. Yeah, and huge, they have mango, they did mango milk? Oh, interesting And they do

So strawberry milk So strawberry milk is like my The only milk I'll drink I won't drink milk Otherwise unless it's strawberry milk But they do mango They did coffee It's all fantastic

And like they do high fat And what's really cool Is you go there And they'll show you the fat content They'll be like today Our cows are producing 4.2% fat And I'm just like

Yeah Let's watch that and get out there when it's the highest. All right. This one's going to hit home. I've recently getting tested. So I want to hear this. Flying under the radar in life with ADHD as your superpower.

Oh, man. I'm going to say underrated. I've definitely dealt with it like my whole life. Um, I was on, I went on medication in 1995, I was seven, which is the year of like the highest in my prescriptions at the most common starting age. Um, and then I was on it until like 22 and to college, um, tried all different ones. Um, so it was quite a journey for sure, figuring this whole thing out. Um, and I, I think fitness. has been a huge help for it and, like, eating a healthy diet and everything has been huge.

But, yeah, I'm sure my son's going to have it. So I think I'm pretty well equipped to, like, handle that too. I know you've talked about your issues with your son with it and stuff. But I think, I mean, you think a little bit differently. As far as, like, being a brewer, you have to do, like, three to four things at the same time. So having ADHD is actually like a benefit to being like a brewer and stuff. Like I'm doing my my grain out, getting rid of the spent grain while conducting the boil while taking gravity readings on the work to see if I'm going to have to do a liquor back like all at the same time. And like it's quite a task.

But I can, I think in like three or four different places at once. So it's anyways. Did you speak liquor back? what's it oh yeah i'm assuming it's a liquor like l iq but not a not a not a yeah liquor is what they call a saturday move water for brewing it's like a i think it's a british term i think interesting fucking british people we used to have one in the discord and i don't know they ain't seen having a couple years miss you david come back buddy but yeah once you yeah it's all about like well like meditation or like exercise

which can be like the same thing, eating healthy. I mean, it's all, it becomes controllable for sure. And you can live with it and you can excel at it. Um, yeah,

I wouldn't believe the negative hype about it. Well, considering how many people probably have it. Right. I just went undiagnosed. Right. Like, I'll be at work and somebody will come up and be like,

well, you're really good multitasking. And I'm like, yeah. Yeah, I am. because I would be so bored otherwise, right? And there's always the men aren't good at this.

And I'm like, you fucking watch me because if I don't do three things at once, I won't do anything. Right. Oh, for sure. And I always had to do a lot of things. Like in college, I'd have to pick the most, like, difficult classes just to, like, almost overwhelm myself just because it's how my brain worked, you know? because it pushes you into doing it's that it's the panic monster right

the panic monster pushes you into things yep yep well i think you passed unpaid and underrated oh thanks guys um and that doesn't happen to be a unpaid or underrated but i just wanted to give you a chance to kind of talk about your uh your youtube and your other you know your your your side channel there if you wanted to kind of go into that and the uh you know the efforts that you know you and i just think your wife joins you in some of those videos too so uh yeah kind of plug yourself there so yeah i don't i don't it's just my passion project um for sure like i don't really get paid by anybody but i'm really into coaching um since i've done all my own like programming um you know like i've said before like it hasn't gone so well for me um as a competitor

out of that however i think it's turned me into like a decent coach um with all these struggles i've come up with or come upon and like the plateaus that I've created and figured out how to like get out of these plateaus um I now want to like figure out how to help other people and you know coaching is pretty it can be expensive and stuff so I just want to for sure see how many of my friends and family I can help out um I've been coaching Kate for a few years now um oh how's that go I know uh I mean you know partners giving each other you know that's That's, yeah, you get it's a very, you just can't be like that helicopter kind of coach, you know, you just have to, like, state the facts and, like, give the program and, like, give your reasoning for why you pitch certain things and what you would recommend, like, and say things like you can go this way. I better recommend you go that way, but if you go this way, we'll, we'll figure things out.

You know, I've been coaching my mom as well. And I've been coaching Andy for a few years or a couple of years now, maybe. And then, yeah, my mom for a few years, I'm all about, like, longevity. I've read all these books on the subject. And I'm kind of just, like, trying to get ahead of, like, taking care of my parents and stuff. Like, I don't want to get to the point where they're in the nursing home and then we're figuring things out. I want to be proactive and not reactive, you know? my mom had like a pretty major surgery last year we were working together for like at least a year before that

and I think like it just helped her so much like her body was just like primed for recovery from it she like recovered without using any like pain medication at all and like she was back on her feet like the next week and like it was just super impressive so she stuck with it um we kind of just do like strong man kind of big three um so we'll do a squat on overhead press and like a deadlift but typically variations though and i was i was going to ask that based on last week's episode is how much overhead press are you doing uh yeah sorry robo you've got to be overhead pressing and i did yeah we should have covered that in general topics is how much everybody in the Discord was like, sorry, you're not allowed?

Like, overhead press is the press. Oh, for sure. And I think, yeah, the bench helps the overhead press and vice versa, for sure. Yeah. But, yeah, as far as, like, longevity goes, it's basically, like, being able to get up and downstairs, getting on and off the toilet and, like, unloading the dishwasher. Yes, that's what squad is. That's what deadlift is.

and that's what overhead press is. There's no scenario in your life where you are 70 years old and need to push something off your chest. Right. But you will need to put things on the shelf above you. You know, you will need to put things in the freezer.

And that's where I see overhead press as the main press. Right? Oh, absolutely. Yep. And I started coaching one of my coworkers now and that's basically what we're having them do as well as three left.

Yep. Yeah. Good. Awesome. Do you have anything for us there, Big Peter? Oh, yeah. I think I... Big Peter.

Big Peter. He did it. He said it. I didn't. Not on purpose. Actually, yeah. Normally, there'd be 100 deck jokes by now. We're only at like three.

Interesting. Keith, I wanted to ask you, kind of what your next steps were for the no-wine garage. Ooh. Well, we did just get some electric out there, which was pretty cool. You know, my dad, parents came up, and my dad helped me run some conduit out there and actually being able to keep a fan running

without having to run an extension cord from the other side of the house. It would be awesome. As far as upgrades, man, I just literally just got a yoke. I've got a ton of, actually, I need a Dan eager. gave me a bunch of kegs that I need to kind of balance out because like there's only one that's kind of like relatively heavy and it's like not even it's like only at 180 but everything else is like I don't know there's like there's like three under hundred pound kegs and then like a 180 or something

or maybe there's a 120 I don't know but like I either need to combine I usually need to get some of those heavier I think I actually owe one to Lucas who is also a Rochester crew as well but he isn't asked for it so I have four for now so getting some extra weight in those kegs probably And then just, I don't know, a lot of it is dependent on the events. Like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to spend hundreds of dollars if I don't have it in a show coming up, like, or especially with the garage gym being something I'm only in for, you know, six months out of the year, you know, nine months, I guess, eight probably. I'm trying to think I, the, the next show I'm doing, it has a hoist event, so I need to figure out a way to do some kind of hoist. I have saw someone, I think someone even in the Discord maybe was showing how they were just, I'm not sure if they were, were they using them just like their, they're, they're, I'm trying to think what the, I think it was the yoke was set up all the way to the top or maybe their squat wreck and they were just pulling a loading pin with like their actual rope as like the way to train hoist.

Um, so like, you're, I think the, I'm going to just be pulling, I think I'm just going to be in a seated position like pulling rope down, I believe or. possibly pulling rope to me to then raise up the the implement but it's some because the guy hasn't created I think he's it's in progress of like getting created but we know it's like he told me it's going to be some type of like a grip based hoist event meaning like I'm pulling a rope and something's going up in the air basically so I that's probably not something I'm going to add to the gym but like that would be an option but like I don't know man there's my my funds have basically been, I need to, we kind of did the math of how much I've spent on travel or how much as a family we've spent on travel for me to go do the stuff I want to do. And I can't keep taking

it all to the family budget. So I don't know that I'm going to have any gym money for a while because I need to start, I mean, I need to start putting my overtime money and my side, you know, any flipping money I make into like a travel fund and not just keep spending like $10,000 a family budget to fucking travel. So as much as I love everybody, like to, for the sake of my marriage and my house. I don't know that I can keep telling my wife that, hey, you need to keep working that second job so I can go do this stuff. So I think things you need to tighten up around the Honeycutt household.

I'll tell you what Scantz told me. Implements don't matter. Just stay strong. Yeah. Right? So I know you can't. Like if there's a hoist event, I want to train for a hoist event. But if you're just strong in general.

then you don't need to train that particular event, just stay strong, right? Do some pulling. Pull your yoke down the driveway, right? Tie a rope around it and just pull, right? Like, you can learn that. You can do that. You don't need that particular event to train for that event.

For sure. Right. And again, Scantz has changed my strong man approach exponentially. with that advice, right? I was like, I don't have a log, I don't have a log. Oh, I want a log. And he was just like, Bud just get strong and overhead press and log will translate.

Yeah, that neutral grip bar should do you a lot of good. Yeah, shout out to Big Cam for that one, yeah. But like, pressing a neutral grip is logs to the same fucking thing. Yeah. Totally. Joey, apologize if this is a typical.

one for you, but I'm trying to get more into a metal. I'm so fucking basic at this point. I need your Mount Rushmore of troll metal. Jesus. So I'm going to start with Lorna Shore for sure. Okay. Especially the Will Ramos era. So you're going to go from in the Hellfire beyond.

uh that dude is the lyrics are amazing they're heartfelt they're very good and he's just probably the best vocalist in troll metal uh you're gonna go to slaughter to prevail after that

because it's the exact opposite he's a Russian angry monster and he's he's so good he's so violent he's so scary um now Now, Whitechapel is definitely on the table.

And the last album, I haven't been excited for a metal album in a long time as much as I was for Whitechaple's new album. And, yeah, The Visceral Wretch, if you can really get into that, he won, like, he didn't win, but he was named, like, best metal vocalist for that performance. what's the last one

because I'm going by like what I'm listening to right now I don't listen to a ton of goblet metal no three's good though no no I can get you there I can get you there that's what she said

suicide silence anytime any day of suicide silence for sure nice i'll start following all 40s yeah um like start with slaughter to prevail because they're probably like the the most accessible of those uh he's a he's a russian dude his english isn't great but like it's pretty good but then lorna shore he's such a good vocalist that he goes all the way from like like high-pitched goblin to the scariest

sounds a human can make but Lorna Shore is the better band in my opinion nice oh it's awesome thanks man and then I got a question for you both an FMK

I was just thinking this past week like I haven't both my parents submit that I wonder if they knew what that meant you know I'm gonna go for both of you guys FMK Benchlog Axel Kill him Bench any day of the week

I hate Bench Yeah Yeah so I'd Man Yeah I have to kill Benj at this point You know I'd I chase 300 for a decade, never got there or whatever.

Probably never happened at this point because I'm never going to dedicate like long peaks and strength blocks to bench over again because I,

you know, no thank you. So, logger axle. Hmm. What am I doing with the axle? Yeah, are we talking strictly pressing?

Okay, because I'm like, if I can do actually a lot more, because if it's just can you own who you can only own one or the other

clearly an axel because you can double with it as well. Man. I think I, I'm curious of what I, I've answered this before, I believe, to some extent. I'm curious if my answer changes, but I'd probably F the log and marry the axle. Yeah, I do like my, I like, I love log, but axles, I love, it's easier to, I have more fun. Give me your log, then I'm coming for your log.

I just sold one, 300 bucks to a guy that drove four hours to get it. Yep, oh, wow. I'll give you 20 bucks for it. Yeah, I like that Because I can I don't know Cleaning an axle is More aggressive I guess

Or more athletic It's more athletic movement It takes more skill I feel I don't know They're both hard They're just hard Different ways Like they're literally like rolling the barrel

And getting that properly And like not fucking up your biceps It's like a skill But like being explosive With an axle Clean is also a skill but like a more athletic skill so I don't know I need

I need to get better at both but yeah I'll take act I think axle my next heavy show will have a a max axle so I gotta be better at that yeah I'm gonna kill bench any fucking day of the week like I said there's no scenario in which

that's a natural movement I mean that one time that car fell on you right on me well as a human oh in general Yeah, I'm not, I'm not Bruce Wayne and there's a log on me and what's the point of all those pushups if you can't lift? That's not me.

Yep. So I'm probably going to marry log and fuck Axel. Axel, there's nothing I can do with an axle that I can't do with a bar. Right. It hurts a lot more to clean it, though. it doesn't though like to me it's the same thing and

this is going to I made the mistake of belt cleaning a barbell and when I was in the gym and when I was traveling and I was like oh don't do that so then I just made sure it actually clean it to the chest so this is this is probably controversial I guess

but yeah there's nothing you can't do with an axle that you can't do with a barbell and by the way axle deadlifting with straps is just barbell deadlifting with straps.

Sorry, guys. Sorry, strong men. It's the same thing. It's literally the same thing. It's 10% harder. 5%? Probably 5% harder. Yeah, yeah. I'll give you the 5%. I'll give you 5%. But once those straps go on, you might as well be using a barbell.

And I know, because I've done them both. And I have done without straps and yeah like axle that the thing without straps is way fucking harder but like if you're going to wear straps why why bother with the axle

I don't understand that maybe I'm stupid I'm willing to admit that I might be stupid but no no I want to log because logs are gorgeous they're heavy and they're just so much fun

it's probably the second most fun lift I've ever done in my life. Third, deadlift is the most fun. Natural stone lifting is second, and long lifting is third. I need to get natural stone. Yeah, my natural stone is the best, and I wish I had one heavier. I'm going to go lift Baird Rock at some point, because like... Oh, I said we've got to do that at Tanner's house next year.

But, yeah, so there's my answer. Nice. No, I'd choose the same answers as you, Joey. Oh, well, let all the strong men come after. for me for saying Axel deadlift is fucking shit if you wear straps. There's no point. You're strapping up a bar. You might as well strap up a bar.

Like, I don't know. Maybe it's just me, but I've done strapless axle deadlifts and they suck and they hurt. Oh, they're miserable. Yeah, they're the worst. At the moment you put on straps, you're wearing straps.

So you might as well just use a power bar at that point. well i power lift i don't want to that's the whole point of strong man is i don't have to do the same fucking lift as i always did for the last eight years is you know it's enough of a different it's i get enough of a placebo i guess not placebo enough of that variety you know it is close but it is different enough to be like oh i'm doing strongman not powerlifting just do it strapless yeah well then i can only do 225 and then that's like that's i'm just hurting my thumbs at that point now you're just chasing numbers well that's not chasing strength you're chasing numbers you're chasing numbers

as somebody who is weak as shit don't take my advice I'm covered in red spots and weak as shit don't take my advice anything else there Peter are we going to bring us one in for a landing bud no I think that was it though Keith is half asleep here

it's been a long I'm so tired I'm so fucking tired you gotta work a full Friday I don't have to do that very often, but tomorrow's going to be a long, shitty day. Me too. And then I got a lift party, so I have to, like, come home and have, like, maybe a half hour to myself, and then one to ten people at my house,

depending on who shows up, because I never really know. Vampire shotgun, a ghost, and you'll be fine. All right, so we have some affiliate links. If you're not familiar with them, you know, listen up. Obsidian ammonia, barbell rescue, plate snacks, home gym con, belt fed strength, freedom, fitness equipment, and apparel

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The Bruins are hockey, yeah. I think that's what I was seeing in my head. Sorry. Joey, where you at? Joey underscore Malesco, I'm L-E-C-Z-K-O. Got my own affiliate codes that you can find in my link tree. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Blur, blur, blur, blur.

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