Unpaid And Underrated - 121 : Lateral Blast (ft. Big Dan)

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Dan. They dive right into great topics like authentic mexican food, pay phones, logs & home gym equipment, wrestling, and coaching. Links Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @danbalderdashmercer (https://www.instagram.com/dan_balderdash_mercer/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Dan.

It's all fun in games until this fucking keyboard won't get off my docks. Get off my dick keyboard. Yeah, stop stepping on dicks. Docks? What's stepping on docks? I'm using Google Docs, and every time I type something, it just makes it so that it'll never play. Not Doc Martin. Did you think Doc Martin?

I'm confused. What did you think? What docks? I see what you did there because it's stepping and Doc Martins are shoes. Shoot, boot! I have levels and layers. And several shoes on different feet. Yeah.

Okay, I'm going to start. Yep, let's roll. All right. We actually haven't started yet. I hate on it because we always do it. We do it all right. Like we always say all right. Okay.

I'm going to say it without saying all right. All right. It's the worst. I know. No, I was waiting for it. As soon as you started. giggling. I was like, no, I'm not letting him do it. Welcome to episode 3.31 of the unpaid and underrated podcast, a podcast by crew for

a crew, relentlessly mocked by crew. And yeah, let's just get into it. I am Big Joey. I am one of the hosts. I am joined by Big Keith. Howdy. And Big Dan. Howdy. He only said one howdy. That's good. At least he only stole part of my tagline.

I'm so easy. It's all I got in me. It's just one howdy at a time. Yep. I don't even have a full Yee-Ha anymore. It's just a yee. I'll take a yee over a yeat. You would.

I did threaten to yeat a co-worker's laptop earlier today. I threatened to yeat my co-workers sometimes. I occasionally do that I like to tell them I'll throw them at the sun I'm gonna throw you at the sun if you don't stop Don't be mean to your kid

They're not my kid by co-workers I know no They're still kids You're throwing your coworkers at your child That was the bad dad At the son S-O-N You're not my son

I know but Connect the dots And I don't know Why is it not your son? Is it not good enough for you? Do you guys ever use, like, Canada has a real ton probably targeted threats like that? No, so one. Don't say that again?

Like really targeted specific threats that make people like, like nervous. Because I used to. Oh, like to get descriptive of how you will do harm. Yeah. Like I threatened to throw somebody through salt cover or salt covered glass once. I, um, my one coworker said something. He just has this thing where like he tries to. like be funny and it wasn't working.

So I picked up an old newfie line and I threatened, I said, I'm going to fold your clothes while you're still in them. That's awesome. I have one that I can't take credit for. It's not really an analogy. It was more just a statement of fact. A buddy of mine who is taller than me,

a little bit wider at the shoulders, also lifts. He is a, he's a, what do they call him? safety inspector for construction sites and he came by one day guy didn't have his uh his gear on he wasn't tethered like he was supposed to be because they were they were working up on like the like sixth floor they're building a hospital um and he was like hey need to be tethered and need to have your need to have your hat on and the guy said something non-committal and he walked did the rounds again came back and he was just like you know hey you need to be tethered

have your hat on and the guy said something like can you actually help instead of doing something use you know instead of doing can you actually do something useful and help us instead of just you know talking and my friend just looked at and went how much you weigh 185 pounds with all your gear he just yeah he's like okay well I am fully willing and able to chuck your ass off of the scaffolding right now if you don't put your fucking gear on that's good stuff yeah my job My job's got a little too PC. I wouldn't say a little too PC. It's just kind of caught up with probably the times.

And I'm still like, think like it's in my mind. I was like, well, like 10 years ago, I could get away with saying this. And I can't get away of saying this anymore with, you know, my current coworkers and just the current climate in any professional setting really. So it's like, all right, I had to kind of relearn how to be a, you know, functioning employee. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What are you guys drinking?

I'm rocking the fruity pebble. again, it's still, it's still okay. Someone had described it in Discord as just, uh, you know, drinking like, you know, uh, eating fruity pebbles with milk, like, like poverty level. And it's kind of like that. Yeah, yeah, like yeah, whatever. Oh, yeah. And I spoke.

Yes, yes, yes. You know, which I think I only had to do once as a kid, like not pretty pebbles, but just like any cereal, maybe once, well, maybe a handful of times, but it was just like more out of stubbornness to not make something else because I really wanted cereal. And I was just like, eh, I'll just do. you know, rice Krispies and fucking water. I guess that'll be okay for today. Oh, just plain rice Krispies?

No, just with water. I'm sure. It's the first thing that came to a memory. I know that I've eaten cereal with just water before, but I couldn't tell you. I mean, I always was like, would have been like, I mean, I know that I did it. I know I did it at least several times a year

when I was growing up just because we'd run out of milk or something. And that scene in, in, uh, the first Friday movie, uh, actually really spoke to me where the, He's like, where's all the milk? And he goes to throw away the cereal because there's a goddamn water on it. Mom's just like, use water.

It won't hurt none. It's like, I'm just sitting there like, no, no, it will. It will hurt. It will hurt some. Did you guys, did you guys know that Rice Krispies were actually invented to encourage masturbation? I mean, I don't know where to go with that, but I get that. I get that.

I see what you did. I get to that reference yet. You're a lying, son of a bitch. Oh, yeah, I made that all up. Oh, and I'm drinking New Belgium Honey Orange Triple. Never had it before. My wife picked it up at the store on her way home today. And it's not bad.

It's all right. But is it like an IPA or something? That sounds like an IPA for sure. No, it's a triple. So it's, uh, I don't know what that mean. A trip. It's like where it's spelled like, T.R. i p-e-el so it's a type that that in and up itself i believe it's a type of beer

tripel yeah yeah triple belgian or whatever is big david uh hunter says trip yeah tripel he would know yeah i got a miller light and then i'm probably gonna drink that water i got in there i got me some cream soda sparkling water oh that sounds good it's delicious i'm uh i'm wearing something a little i don't think i'd ever thought i'd wear this one but i'm rocking the uh silly goose the silly goose the silly goose barbell club that's uh I don't know. I'm not sure how I feel about it, but it was it's here. But I did try on the, uh, the dark side of the moon one and that in comfort colors. I don't know if it's just because it's getting a little cooler out, but that it just felt so good when I tried it on.

I was like, ooh, this is perfect. So I'm kind of excited to have just a slightly bigger, uh, dark side of the moon one. Yeah, I got a new dark side one recently. Because I got them when they first, uh, when they first came out, uh, I got it in a 2X, um, back when I still was lying to myself and thinking that I could fit into two X's. Um, and, uh, I don't know what happened to it. It's either lost somewhere in my house, like behind the dryer somewhere. I have no memory of losing it or like, but I don't have it. And I spent like a year, cleaned out all my drawers and it's like, I don't have this shirt anymore.

So, um, my wife just bought me a new one, um, like a month ago in a 3X. And I feel like every time I put it on, I'm like, this is more comfortable than the old one. Oh yeah, definitely would be that, that new blank, those comfort color. blanks already fit like 10% bigger anyway, so it'd be nice and roomy. And I got this guy on. Yeah, buddy. Buddy. That is a good one.

Yep. We had a little bit of an active week this week on the on the crew side. Well, by crew, I mean, Tommy. Tommy was on the Do You Even Lift Bro podcast. It's a home gym podcast put on by one of the fellow crew, Kyle Kisen. and our good buddy, nice like Mike, so they've been doing that for a while now together. So there was just literally the three of them,

just shooting the shit about home gyms for about 90 minutes or so. And, you know, Tommy didn't completely take it over like Tanner did last year, but Tommy was very interactive, you know? It's, you know, he definitely shined. And, you know, he had written his wheelhouse, literally the most of the episode

was talking about his home gym and his experience with home gyms. And I just thought that was pretty cool. Got a little insider trading on some of the massonomics. There was some stock, remember what it was now. There was something that Tommy had mentioned that was kind of like not released on their podcast. It might come to me later on because I fuck what the hell was it? Well, I don't remember, but that was a good episode. I really enjoyed it. It was

definitely extra, you know, massonomics content for the week that, you know, if you haven't listened to it yet, check it out. I should check that out. I've listened to that podcast inconsistently. But I enjoy, I've enjoyed it when I've listened. And I think, does Mike live in Arizona? I think he does. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's mentioned a few times. So always, you know, down to support someone from Arizona.

I am curious where he is from where you guys are at. I'm curious. I'm not sure. I'm sure he said, like, what city he's in. But I think he might, he might actually keep that ambiguous too because he's a little more private than some people. I can't recall. But, but definitely check it out, crew. And then more, more YouTube content.

They had the ATX pendulum squat video that came out today, the 20-minute review on that. Kind of deep dive it and got to hear Hogan, you know, a little bit more about Hogan and Nicole bringing it out and, you know, having some crew help putting it together and showing off all the, the stickers and the, you know, essentially everything that Hogan and Nicole put on it, which is really cool. I still haven't seen, I've yet to see the whole story. Like, I need someone to actually post that picture in Discord, or I got to find it on the original post maybe. but like Hogan like actually like typed up a whole thing and I think it's like somehow embedded. I don't really know. I didn't.

I was, you know, and honestly that I was, I consumed the YouTube video. I was, it was kind of like in a very small portion of the screen on my GPS as I was driving. So I didn't really get to watch too much of it. So it was mostly audible.

But, uh, still good, good, uh, content nonetheless. And, uh,

yeah, that was, let's see, Joey didn't have anything this week for good. I guess I got all. I just didn't add it. I can talk. Yeah,

if you got something because I got, I got, I got, touch on the other two, but I don't want to talk for 20 minutes straight. So Morgan's laughing at me today. She essentially said, I think we need a PO box for all of this stuff that you keep today. I got like five letters on the shelf.

I got to open up. I actually have very likely first round access to Mad Cow's shiny stickers. Oh, yeah, I got those. He's a good dude. Yeah. Yeah. I think one was a sticker. Another one was like a thank you.

It was like a little printout, like a little, yeah, yeah, that one. That was funny. Yeah. Because when he first posted it, he was like, which one should I go with? And I just kind of DM'd him. And I was like, sounds like you should just send them to me and I'll help you decide. Joe sent me his too. I got those today from the Greater Southern Puget Sound.

Is it Puget or Puget? Puget. Puget training facility and storage center. I do have to say, I love the quality of this sticker. that is a very handy unit yeah it's a handy unit uh also got the second round of

barefoot gifts i have a nice flannel shirt from them that was cool uh yeah and i got my other shirt earlier this week the uh flat flat foot society or flat shoe society that is funny because he wears a flannel i think every time i've met him he's been in a flannel like literally

oh chris or just no uh yeah Ryan or Blake Shelby's husband Yeah I was brain farting there No he's always in a Maybe I'm just maybe it's the most recent time But I swear he's always in a like a red checkered flannel I think

But maybe I just I hate they released that Flat Shoe Society shirt And I couldn't order it And so I ended up messaging Blake And I'm like why can't I order this? Like it does not appear in the website It's because I'm in Canada

And their their manufacturer doesn't ship to Canada So he was like I was just going to send you one and then they just put together a whole kit so I'm getting a flannel I got the flannel in that what else big shout out to Big Colton

for making me laugh like an idiot after Tuesday morning I wake up and the first thing I do is of course check my phone and it's just a video of him going I can't do it trying to touch his shoulders he offered no context but because I knew it was in the episode

I laughed so hard because it's just like if you opened it and you were like what is he talking about it pretty much forced you to go and listen to our episode to find out so it was like it was really good it made me laugh out loud and those are mine from this week we'll say that i was uh can you guys still hear me yep yeah yeah you're coming out loud and clear there big damn i put one of the headphones in in the case just like we were talking about i was got to charge them up yep i was standing in my kitchen this morning i was listening to the big buzz episode and i was nice i think it was that

so yeah and I was trying to touch my shoulder and I'm like you can't be kidding me like I used to be able to do this I'm sure I could but you can see it right now I can't freaking do it yeah it's it can't be done like you get a good stretch yeah maybe I just relax and the ones behind the the ones behind the back I used to be able to lock my hands and I can't do that anymore oh I can still touch my fingertips I can tickle I can tickle but I can't I used to be able to lock So I've got the, probably the most expensive upgrade to the no wine cellar in the last shop. Honestly, probably the single most expensive item. We, uh, we, the wife has been, it's been something she's wanted down in the basement for about a decade now. And we finally pulled the trigger and brought in a company to help put us in. So we're officially going to have a little half bathroom down there. Very good. Kind of near the one laundry, the, so we ended up putting a whole new sink in.

So we got rid of the big double basin sink and made that a little, uh, you know, a half size one. So that gave us a little space. We'll put like a shelf or something and then just off to, it was hard to because we have like there's not really the perfect spot for it. So we have a big like the big like your actual plumbing stack is where it is. And then but like you, you know, the piping was good underneath that that we could kind of tie into it fairly easily without having to tear up the whole floor. They only to tear up like a three foot by like two foot section kind of. And the toilet's just going to be a little, you know, just a single toilet and we're going to build a room around it.

And then when you'd come out of the room and just go over to the utility sink off, you know, like. six feet away and wash your hands. So that's just going to be a great thing because, you know, when we have like 10, 15 people over my wife doesn't want, I don't like it either. We don't want 20 people walking with her shoes up and down our house like through a living room because there's, yeah, that was crazy uncomfortable. Yeah, it's like, oh, this is just because it's like, you go from being like, because usually if people come over and they don't use the bathroom, they don't even like know what my house looks like because it's just you go from the side porch directly down the stairs and into the gym. There's no like mud room or anything. It's just

you walk right through the kitchen for like half of a second. You're into the gym. So there's, there are people that have that I've known here for years that have legitimately never been inside of anything other than like my basement because they've never had to go. They've never pissed here. Like they've just, you know, they'll come over. They'll work out for 90 minutes, go home and never once asked to use my bathroom. Like I can like picture three or four people that legitimately never use my bathroom. And it's kind of funny. But yeah, just the more more privacy for the upstairs and just not having strange, you know, not strangers to me, but potentially strangers to, you know, and the cats too. They don't need to be, you know, startled with people coming upstairs all the time. So that is exciting. Um, you know, you know, know, step one, it will be done in a couple days of having the toilet actually in and everything. And now we got to figure out if we have enough money left in the budget to hire a contractor to do the framing around the wall, just because it's going to be such a pain in the ass because that way my ceiling is with a bunch of other pipes. And I want it to be as soundproof as possible or if we're going to kind of go at it ourselves. But either way, you know, definitely need a good bathroom for my next topic is good, good Mexican food. We, you know, I eat a fair amount of Chipotle at the house and stuff.

You know, there's one right down the road. We'll go to periodically get it delivered. and, you know, to me, that's Mexican food. It didn't have been more or less, but I've gone to a couple of, like, authentic restaurants in my life and it's like, eh, it's just different. It's not what you're used to, you know. It's probably it is authentic and it's what it's supposed to be, but it's just not what you're used to. So it's kind of, you know, but there was a place that I think it's been open maybe for a year now. It's about a mile or here.

So it's, uh, mom and, it's essentially mom and pop Chipotle is, but like, it's so damn good. Like, I got a cassidia tonight and a little taco and it was just, like, at first I was disappointed because, like, it came out with, like, this little smallest drizzle of sour cream. And I'm like, don't need it. It's fucking amazing. Like the quok was amazing. The, all the sauces were good. They had like a Chipotle salt.

They had like four bottles lined out of like, like, like this is, this is just cream. And then it goes to like Halapan and they're like like, like, super, super hot, whatever. And I was like, all right. But I only touched the first one. But it was just cool to find something, you know, that's more authentic. It's family owned. You know, I literally as I was leaving, I shook the guy's hand who was like, you know, the owner, because we was asking how it was. I was like, I'll probably never go to Chipotle again.

And it was fucking just, you know, it was cool to find something like that in my, like literally a mile from my house. Those are the best places. Yeah, I'm excited. And I come from a place of privilege here because I'm born and raised in the Southwest. And the Mexican food here is just, it's everywhere and it's all good because it can't be not good. If it's not good, they don't stay in business. Yep. So, yeah, I mean, it's, I got to say.

You mentioned sour cream. Can I ask, have you ever tried Wahawken sour cream? Not familiar. Ooh, okay. I don't know if they'd have it there, but I get it from the grocery store. And by the way, Wahakken is, the word is phonetically, it's basically spelled Occidental. But it's pronounced Wahakken. And it has a slight yellow tinge to it.

It tastes like if butter and sour cream had a baby. Oh, I don't like Macrofactor would like that baby. Oh, it's so bad. It's like a buttery sour cream. I got to say it is interesting. I don't know. Those are two condiments. I didn't think I would mix those two condoms.

I'm trying to like. So damn good. Usually you can find it. Yeah, you can find it near the authentic Mexican sour cream. If your grocery store has that section, it's got an orange lid most of the time. so yeah i think i think i think mine has daisy that's about it uh last week's mechanomic up last week's macro factor episode yeah yeah yeah that was a couple weeks ago it was close

this is the uh machinations big dan did you get to listen to this week's episode about the $100,000 gym and they're they're they're very clickbaity uh what not there yes i yes i did uh i think i did my my uh my uh my my child, my son, my 13 year old son to part of that episode in the car. And I, I was just like, isn't that interesting? You hear him talking? You hear how he's explaining how to get $100,000 of gym equipment for free. And then I was like, see, because he just got a bunch of people to be members to this gym. And my son's just like, but that's not free. And I was like, no, no, you see it is. I was just trolling him the whole time with it. You don't, you don't

draw a salary for a decade of any capacity, yeah. The gym is the salary. I tried to say that during, like, I was talking to myself during the recording, or during listening to the episode, and, you know, Tanner was like, you know, I don't really pay myself. And I was like, but you got a cool gym out of it.

That's true. What if, no, I did, I did get a chance. What if the real payment was the friends that Tanner made along the way? Ah. The friend is, it sounds, the way he was ranting, it sounds more like the friends he lost along the way well it sounds

let's be honest it sounds like the stranger the random strangers that he know I was more of a joke it's with yeah I did get a chance to listen to that it was it was entertaining yeah good stuff I like I like hearing about like how they got started and they started small

and then they have all this you know and I don't know I like it's one of those things that like when my my mom and my wife and my kids and I were all in a van and we were driving and somehow it came up and my mom was like okay so what is massonomics and my wife just goes it's a cult he's in a cult yeah damn it that's what Morgan would say yeah he's in a he's in a cult and she just laid it out and explained it the whole way she's like she's like he contributes to a thing three dollars a month it's not that much so i don't care but he contributes to a thing

and it goes to pay for some gym in south dakota and i was just like i mean that's you're not a hundred percent wrong but then i explained yeah but it's like a really nice cult where the people don't get rich off of it we just have fun in the cult yeah what's your rating of shove yep what's the rating uh oh uh five out of five totally a cult fair um oh i'm mixing up the pre i was on this week's pre show grease or we be careful with pre show though we can talk about the pre show we can talk up the pre show but we don't disclose no i was about to say like oh do you're in the rules i was actually i was thinking of this week that's what's hard isn't it yeah it's like it's like because then it's like

it's like it's like it's like it's like it's a flat circle or not because i'm fucking trying to talk about what was 10 days ago when i just consumed something two days ago and it's like this is going to come out in five days and so fucking confused. Yeah, I think that's part of why I leave right after the pre-show is just because then it's like there's too much in my head

and then I don't have something to listen to on the way to work next Monday. Yeah, he's had pretty much everything I wanted to say. I do love when Tanner gets a a bee in his bonnet every once in a while. That's always really fun

because it doesn't happen very often and usually you have to meet him in person to hear those stories. So I'm going to give that five out of five military discounts. I had a good, I made a good meme about that. That was funny that made me jump. Yeah, I don't have notes in front of me, but I do remember once it came to me.

Just, yeah, Tanner kind of going off was my favorite. And like, it was all justified, too. And like, as someone that doesn't have a public gym, but has a gym people come over to, some of what he was saying was like, yeah, some people just don't take fucking, they don't want to put their equipment away. They don't want to fucking take care of anything. You know, having, having random people just sneak in. and shit and letting your buddies,

that just hurts the fuck out. I mean, he is one million percent justified. And especially when they were saying, like, like I know why he wants to keep members to like 60, 70 members because,

you know, it gets exponentiallyally more of a pain in the ass the more people you have because, you know, there's always that, what is it? There's probably always 5% of everyone in the room

is going to be an asshole and fuck you over in one capacity or another. So, you know, keeping those numbers down is great. I wish I had more things that just come into mind,

but was this the episode? I didn't write some down. Where did I... Was this the episode with the... We turned out fine, except for all those people that didn't? Mm-hmm. Or was that the last week?

I think I'm... Because that's... That is a really fun... It was this week, maybe? That made me laugh really hard, because it's a full-on evolution of we used to be a proper country. And of course,

everybody always says, we turned out fine. Except for all those people who died. Except for all those people that didn't. And I think that's a really fun story one day as we were talking about my child's diagnosis with ADHD and I said something on the lines of like I'm going to go and get diagnosed because like if he's got it I'm seeing a lot of what he's doing in me and my mom was like well I raised you and you turned out fine and me and my brother looked at each other and started like giggling and she's like what? There's nothing wrong with you. I was like I know but like. there is do you uh do you ever listen to a stand-up comedian named patten oswald

i know of him but i probably i don't usually seek out his stuff he's he has a bit from like 20 years ago where he has same conversation he he has with his mom and because he's talking about you know lay and his dog having his daughter sleep on her back and because that's what what the text is saying to do and his mom's like you and your brother's face down every night you turned out just fine And he's just like, I didn't turn out just fine. I get up on stage and tell strangers about my dick. I am not fine.

I did. I do that every week here, I think, sometimes. You do. Yeah, you do. You're not fine, Keith. You're not fine. I try. And you turn out fine.

I turn no fine. What is it? What is the other one? I, what is it? I was spanked as a kid. And I turned out fine. And I'm like, yeah. and you're standing in front of me telling me to hit my child.

Don't think you turned out fine, my friend. Like, I don't think that is how you think it goes. Anyway. Yeah, enjoyed the episode overall. Always good to hear, like, just backstory stuff. And, you know, you've heard bits and pieces of the story over the years, but actually just have got, like, a full breakdown of, like, you know, this is what I have to deal with on a daily basis kind of thing.

It was very enjoyable to hear. So I'm going to go ahead and give it a five out of five. Massonomics, it's only $38 a month, you cocksucker. There's one other one that I really liked. What other podcast would you listen to where it's just Tanner and Tommy naming the original 12 people? You don't know who they are. You've never met them.

And that went on for like a long time. I think I've met six or seven of them. Yeah, but you like, you were just like, well, I want to know who they were. But it's just them going like, like, there was Dave and there was a Shane. And they're, and when I'm like, I don't know any of these people. Why do I care? But I did because I kept listening. I'll be little mo. I'm just, I'm so glad we've shifted. I'm so glad that whatever the over under they talked about for having guest on last year, like, well, you know, for this year, like, I'm so glad it's going to be the under because like,

if they have more than 10 guests, that's going to be too many in my opinion. And I'm really enjoying, like, I don't think they're going to have six guests, and that's even fine by me, because they're just, they're not, these are so much better episodes. There's so much, I think, I don't know, I'm even speaking, I'm speaking just for myself, but I don't want to, like, I can regularly listen to them, just shoot the shit about nothing for two fucking hours. Yeah. A guest just ruins that, and then it makes that, that, you know, you only get a half hour

of it, maybe an hour total, and it's like, that you're stealing half of the podcast that I actually enjoy. So, I don't know, you guys are doing it right nowadays. and you haven't run out of shit to talk about, so keep it up, boys. The thing about guests is I've never heard of any of them, and it's kind of like a burden is now I have to know about this person. It's just, I've met some great people, like, over Instagram and stuff, right? Like, they've had guests on, and I go and seek them my owner.

I'm like, hey, I liked your episode. Like, I've met some nice people, but at the same time, it's like, if I don't have to do that anymore, great, like, that sounds good to me, the burden of knowledge. because then they turned out to be some piece of shit a year later and you're like, ah, great. Now I got to unfollow you because you suck. I only unfollow really

douchey people. Well, I mean, I guess people I know. I'm saying there's a lot of people I know that I fucking mute. I will say with the guests, it's like, the guests are what kind of brought me in. Of course. So I love, I love when the guests are there.

If it's somebody I know, super fun, I would get super excited. Like recently when they had Alex Bromley on, I was just like, oh, I've been following this dude for years. Like, I've got his books. Like, I've run his programs. Like, hell yeah. I got so, so excited about that. And, but then also sometimes when it's somebody I don't know, it's like, I find out about them. And I'm like, man, this person's cool.

But, you know, there's always the gamble of like, ah, they end up being up. Somebody mentioned Steffie Cohen. I wonder if my opinions shifted on this too just because we do this every week and we talk to someone every week and I only have so much room left for new people

like even in like like even like just someone that massonomics brings to my attention I was like I don't know like I've really been like they're my like they're my escape from interviews like I don't know like I love what we do here I know did you shake my head and close my eyes

I love what we do here but like it's enough work to keep you. our interviews go on and we don't need two we don't need two podcasts that are both about interviews you know yeah maybe we'll just we'll just say hey guys we do interviews now leave the guest to us hey we should probably like you guys be fine yeah we should probably like get going yeah uh big dan you got a massnomic sponsor read for us you want to hit the uh listeners with bud oh yeah sure here let me check my notes i got a pull good deal pull it up real quick I wrote it down.

Are you sure you're not Midwest? Oh, yeah, sure. Mm-hmm. I just, it's a thing since I was a kid. In my family, we always just switch back and forth between random accents. Now, I'm Southwest all the way, but we don't really have an accent. So we're just very neutral. All right.

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What brought you to Massonomics? Oh, man. Okay, so I've actually, here's the problem. I don't quite remember which happened first. So I know about the timeline. I believe it would have had to have been in 2020. But I went back, I've gone back and looked several times, but I forget exact dates. I either saw them on Mark Ripito's podcast.

um at some point or um i saw the first allan thrall episode uh first i'm not sure which happened first i think those are right around i think i looked and those are like within two months of each other um so that was kind of it was one of those two events and i remember i think i started listening to a ripato podcast which i there was a very brief window that I actually listened to Rip A Toast and they happen to be on it and I remember thinking man these guys sound kind of dull because they they just weren't there was no energy

there and then I saw I think it was I think I saw that first and then I saw that Alan Thrall was on and I've been following Alan Thrall for a while so I listened to that and I was just like man these guys are awesome like I let you know I wasn't I didn't skip ahead to the guest I was just like

listening to them talk well, basically while I was in the gym while I was lifting and I was just like I was like, these guys are great. This is a hoot. I love it. And yeah, it just basically been ever since. So like 2020 brought me I think, yeah, early 2020 or

maybe late 2019. I have to go back and look, but kind of around that. So five, six years. I've been listening regularly every week. And but didn't join crew for quite some time. Yeah, I'm coming up. I believe I'm coming up on my two-year anniversary

in January or February of this year, or of this coming year. And that is because of Big Toby. So, I went to a strong man competition in Phoenix.

Well, technically, I think it's in North Scottsdale, but whatever. There was a strongman competition called the Unbroken Strength Games, and I showed up and I was there with my buddy Pete, who competes Masters, and he walked up to this guy, this tall guy with piercing blue eyes.

Yep. And the first thing I noticed about him was his beautiful blue eyes, and the second thing I noticed was he was wearing a lift hat. And my buddy Pete walks up to him, says hi to him, because they know each other. And I go, oh, hi, I'm Dan. How are you doing? And then I just kind of go, hey, nice hat,

but you're not supposed to buy those. and so he we ended up sitting next to each other during the competition and chuckle when you said that I'm assuming like he he immediately he lit up and he was just like wait a second

he was like you listen I was just like I've been listening for years like I've been you know because this is like exactly three years ago I think now but yeah he you know I've been listening for years like I love that I love Massonomics

we're trading jokes back forth during the strong man competition um and you know just kind of hanging out and uh he it it started that day where he was just like why you know are you crew and i was like no i'm not and he's just he's like he's like why he's like how have you been listening for like two two to three years and you're not crew i'm like i don't i just i just don't i just don't i'm very non-committal like i already bought into one cult okay that was a bad experience so like i can't can't buy into another one. But then it took him a few months.

And so we exchanged numbers and everything. Turns out he lives like, I think less than two miles from me. Oh, that's wonderful. Yeah, here in Gilbert. So he's just right down the road. And we've hung out. We've lifted together. He's been to my gym.

I've been to his. And he finally basically just bullied me into joining. Good. I'm disappointed. It took him as long as it did, but it's good stuff. It took him from August. August to like January and I was sitting I remember I was sitting in the barber shop and my my son was getting a haircut and I was just sitting playing on my phone I was just like you know what like damn it I really should just join crew I'm picturing you know the Simpsons scene as Ryan said earlier if it's not Simpsons it is even if it isn't Homer going to clown school everybody's just sitting there eating dinner quietly and he goes that's it you've helped me back long enough I'm going to clown school that's just you in the chair on your phone that's it i'm joining crew and everybody's like what

i don't think any of us expected him to say that yeah i know but it's uh it's been great i'm not i'm mildly i like to say i'm mildly active um i think i message more crew on instagram than i do on discord but yeah it's it's it's it's wild to like interact like people some people are exclusively want to talk on discord and i'm like i don't hardly see my discord messages like they don't pop up half the time unless I'm like on the website I feel like or on the computer like where the app doesn't show me if we're not friends so yeah I definitely default to talk to me on Instagram please or in a or in a channel but not like a discord DM those are always confusing at times if you're not already friends but yeah no

that's uh that is a good story uh just so just so all the listeners know who they're talking to big dan because there are a handful of danz I believe in the discord and uh go ahead and hit us with your IG and your, you know, did Discord user name and anywhere you want someone to follow you? Oh, yeah. So on Discord, I believe in the, in the Discord, I'm Big Dan Mercer. And then on IG,

I believe it's Dan underscore Balderdash underscore Mercer. It's not my name, but whatever. Like Mercer's not my name. It's not. Toby was And it's actually funny Because Toby did not know

That was not my name I did not know Did I? We were friends for like a year And he didn't know that was not my name I learned it right now When you logged into Zoom Yeah because I definitely like submitted you

As Dan Mercer on the app And no totally fine And if you could like Not put my real last name In text anywhere That'd be great Yeah we just We just won't pull any

videos from this because I'd see it on your Zoom right now but yeah I mean if it's if it's on the video I just mean like in the description or anything because yeah I uh it's it's mainly so that I can have a public social media but it's my it's my level of protection to make sure my students can't find me no and then that's fine we don't we tend not to use full government names on the on the social media is here anyway unless you're Keith or me I I want people to find me but yeah yeah but yeah but we do that on purpose we don't like go out of our way to be like this person's real name is this just tag your instagram yeah all right i think we covered where do you live uh but where are you

from uh well i'm from i'm from arizona uh born and raised i'm i am from mesa which is a particular type of arizona and if you're from mesa um why don't you know that it wasn't so probably because the breaking bad wasn't that? No, no, that was Mesa Birdie. That was just a, that was just a company name. Yeah, very not accurate. Mesa, one thing is, I never felt more

seen on like a national level than, I think it was American Dad. The show American Dad had a, they had two lines in a brief conversation, but every person from Mesa literally just freaked out at it because Roger the alien is saying, you know,

oh yeah, I was roommates with this person when I was living in Phoenix. And then they go, actually we weren't in Phoenix we were in Mesa but if you say Mesa nobody knows what that is so you got to say Phoenix and I was just sitting there going oh my God they're talking about me I'm from a city with like a million people in it but nobody knows what the fuck it is yeah it's it's it's it's in the Phoenix metro area it's all connected but it's really weird how I don't know I don't need to get into demographics but it's interesting how, like, I only live five miles from some of the areas that I grew up in, but like my

buddy will occasionally message me and he was like, hey, I drove past that rundown motel you used to live in for a little bit. I'm just like, yeah, now I'm living in a nice house in Gilbert, which is just literally like, it's less than five miles away. And I'm just like, yeah, it's nice here. Good stuff. So you, you know, it sounds like you've been around for a long time, even if you're only more recently joining. So you've had your eye on a lot of different merch over the years. You know, friends with a lot of us on the gram.

So what's that one thing you've seen or, you know, you just haven't been able to get your hands on? Oh, man. See, I was thinking about this. I was thinking about this. I don't know if there's like one that I, that kind of passed me by. You know, actually, okay, I'll say there was one.

Okay, I thought it just popped into my head. um the uh pbrr themed powerlifting shirt uh i don't think that's available anymore um and that was one that i feel like i owe it to pbrr to own that shirt um because when i was in college uh my i found that uh my my my routine basically was by a fifth of evan williams and an 18 pack of bottled not canned bottled PBR and like I'd have a rugby game on Saturday and first thing I do go go back to my dorm hop in the shower ice cold PBR well taking a shower. Chower beers. CBR is a wonderful shower beer if you get it out of a glass bottle and it has the added bonus

of it's got a I don't know if you know this. They have this technology in PBR that it's like a repulsor field so that if you put in your fridge and people go into your fridge looking for beer, it just bounces them away. Like, they don't even fucking try. Actually, when I was really young, I used to drink Black Label because of that. Because everybody would just be like, what is that? I'm like,

try it. And they're like, no. And I'm like, yeah, excellent. I mean, this was when I was in college, so I didn't give a shit about calories. So people were just like, people were just like, but you got to drink like twice as many. I was like, good, I don't care. Yeah, I don't think. Three times as many.

What's your Hall of Fame status? Oh, okay. So I realized I went and got my Hall of Fame card. And I was like, oh, crap, I haven't updated this a little bit. All right. On their update. So, yeah. So I've been a supporting member for one year.

Okay, I've checked that out. I'm approaching two years. I have checked off that I own a drink spotter. I don't think I own a piece of, is the bench heavy shirt banned? I don't. I know some of the beer ones are... I think that's a different brand. I don't...

I think it is. I can't... I don't... I would say... Maybe. I think I counted it, but let's see. I have reached... I have reached 10 online orders.

I haven't checked that off. Let's see. And now I'm on the U&U podcast. So that brings me to one, two, three, four, or five. This will be number six. Yes. Halfway there. I'm not, as the kids would say, I'm not a try hard.

So I, and that's not, that's not shade to anyone who tries to complete things or like speed run stuff or like, I respect that. It's just not me. It just ain't me. No, I think I got lucky. And when they read, like when they released the Hall of Fame thing, I was already at like 13 or something stupid like that. So I was like, all right, this is easy. Yeah. My problem is I don't travel very much.

you've been at the same number since they came out I'm pretty sure I don't think I've acquired one thing since they've come out and I've been one shy of fucking jacket since like the day the fucking card I may be mistaken but I'm like there'd be two shit whatever the fuck it is no no I'm saying yeah two days

oh you're gonna eat two years nice oh you never seen that no it's just the second I thought there was a real balloon yeah I think you can do hearts yep you do thumbs down.

Okay. What's that a supportive membership number there, Dan? 331. According to the gold card, I remember you discussing recently that that may not be accurate anymore, but yeah, according to a gold card is 331. I didn't, I was surprised I was hoping to be more chatter about that too

of like, because I kind of like, you know, arbitrarily who am I to make the rules, but I made the rules essentially of like, don't reach out to Tanner and leave Tanner alone. yeah like don't fuck with tanner i almost messaged them before the show though because i was just like well i did i did put the caveat and it's like i feel that it's it's warranted to bugging if one person bugs them a week that's specifically going to be a guest on you and you for their updated card i think that's okay but like yeah tom dick and harry fucking getting on there every two seconds and his dm just being

flooded with that that's obnoxious let's not do that crew i do like what tanner did was when he went in and just went new uh new number to buzz right he just He just tagged him and was like, this is your number now. And that was pretty dope. Yeah, it's good stuff. I am suffering from the world's worst allergies again.

It happens every year between August and end of September. So I'm going to end up, like, breathing into this thing like Dave Tate. And I'm so sorry in advance. But that's why I keep trying to mute it so I can just like sniffle. Oh, I have that self-consciousness always about.

about like if I like am I breathing too heavy whenever I'm on phone with somebody or got my earbuds in yeah definitely having a home having a home gym has to help with that right you're not you know it's just one less thing you're not in public the one so I want to hear about that certified training facility you got out there oh I actually don't have a certified training facility yet let's hang up hang I'm sorry I'm sorry he's not he's not a try hard he says

that's like that's not that's a pretty low bar man you know you got a i know it is i know you just my wife my wife even she got an email about it because she's ordered things for me for like christmas and stuff and she goes she just looks at me she's like hey she's like did you see these certified training facility banners they got she's like this is really cool like you should get one you've even got a name for your gym and i was just like i know i just haven't done it I can't, I have no excuse. Okay, here's the thing. I get paid tomorrow.

I get paid tomorrow. I'll buy the banner. I don't want to. I'm not telling you what to do. I just, it's just like, you know, that's low-hanging fruit of just having a whole of them and being in crew.

It is. But, you know, if you're not going to put pictures up, it's not even worth it there, Matthias. I almost want to wait to post pictures when I do get the banner, though,

which I'll do tomorrow. Well, yeah, Maybe, yeah. But I almost want to wait because my wife and I are planning once it cools off, because currently we are in Arizona summer. You don't get shit done outside during the summer in Arizona. But we had, she actually made the suggestion because our,

my garage has accumulated a bunch of crap, basically. And she was just like, you know, most of this, we're probably going to throw away when we really go through it. So she's just like, why don't we just like get a you? hall take everything out of the garage put all your gym stuff off to the side put everything in the you hall and then put your gym stuff back in the garage and then we'll put the stuff we actually want to keep in the garage around it and anything we don't want to keep gets tossed but that way it's the garage is built around your gym and not kind of the other way around like shelving all the way

around it kind of thing or just like yeah storage that'd be cool yeah we've already bought a bunch of the black and yellow like Home Depot storage bins and we're putting stuff in there. So there you go. Hopefully. That's pretty cool. What do you have like a two-stall garage then? Yeah, yeah. It's two-stall garage that has never had a car parked in it.

I mean, I don't, because garages aren't made for cars, are they? That's the news to me. No, no, no. And well, and also I hear them talk about this on the podcast. Like I know it's different in the Midwest, but snow is not a thing here. Like, heat is. But, yeah, Tommy was mentioning recently, I think, that he was saying, yeah, you just put a sunshade up, and that's all you got to do. And it's like, the sunshade helps a little bit.

But there's no long-term damage to the car. Not much. Anyways, nothing big from leaving it outside. It's just sometimes too hot to get into right away. Especially my AC actually stopped working this summer. Oh, yeah. In the middle of the summer. One of my company truck did, too, and they fucking told me.

me it was non-essential and didn't fix it and i'm like okay cool oh yeah it was a hundred it was 115 and like yeah i was driving my my morning routine when i got to work was crack all the windows put up the sunshade cover my daughter's car seat in a blanket you know basically just make it so it's not boiling hot when we get back there um but yeah yeah it's a it's a two stall garage one side is basically storage and random stuff for the house and then the other side is my gym and I mean I got

I have a deadlift platform four post rack I've got four Atlas stones strong man log how big is that log I can't tell if you're like seven foot tall or you have like a 10 inch or an 8 inch log

because it looked like a child's log in your hand I'm not that big I'm about six feet it did not like a hair shorter I'm one of those guys who's like five I'm like a five eleven and a half guy um but um but uh no the log's probably about 10 inch okay that makes that track because i'm like that looks so small yeah it's 125 pounds empty um that's beefy yeah cool because it's i'll take some up close pictures of it sometimes soon but uh i

would say it looks like it looks like a log that like an orc would build um because it's so what it's okay so basically there's a guy that i'm acquainted with who owned a fitness equipment company that was based out of here that was called Invictus Strength and he was making racks, he was making logs. Actually, a couple world records got set on the Invictus Log at one point. In Weight Class Strongman, I think a guy from Tucson here, C.J. Pierce set the log. No, sorry, he did the axle work. No, wait, wait, no, it was the log, I think.

log record for like the U90 kilogram but it's those are some of the Invictus logs the ones he was making they were some of the nicest logs you would ever see

like as far as metal logs go they just feel nice it's they're they're good to clean but he let me borrow he doesn't make him or he stopped making them currently for reasons um but he let me borrow one of his

early ones that was unbranded and I was using that to train for a competition and then he wanted it back but he gave me his first log that he ever made and it's it's made out of like I mean the the steel it's like quarter inch thick steel um that's why it's oh yeah because like a 10 inch log should not weigh 125 pounds they should weigh like the 10 inch log would be a a beginner or you know it's almost always a female log and they're like you know they start like 70 pounds maybe 8 maybe 85 pounds so that is exactly the same diameter as uh as my 25 pound plates which is nice um but yeah it it's rough cut and he grinded off most of the sharp edges um but it's you could you could tell he did not like it the hole for the handles is like

goes like whoop um that's but he did like grind it down but it looks rough and ugly and i'm just like you know what? I love that. The one thing that's weird about it, though, is for as rough and ugly as it looks, the sleeves, standard collars. They don't use axle collars. I find it to be somewhat inconsistent sometimes on certain specialty bars and where they're made, who made them. And if it, like, it should take an axle collar, but it doesn't and vice versa. Like, like my, uh, my Mike Bartos, uh, circus dumbbell, I can't fit, like regular collars are too loose. can't actually class my axle collars around as I have to use the ones that are, you know, like just the, the, the, the, the beefy thumb screw on it.

But yeah, let's see. I'm going to hit you with the least fun, most fun. Is that a game you're familiar with Big Dan? Yes, it is. So we're going to, anyone, any of Dan's friends and family, I'm going to give Dan one topic specifically, and he's going to, you know, go into great or little detail and kind of explaining me what the worst part and the best part about it is, but we like to call it least fun, most fun. so I'm going to hit you with

this is a big Toby supplied one because I figured he's a good buddy yours he'd help me out here so he wants to know least fun most fun teaching teenagers to lift weights oh shit and you got some kids because I'm not sure if it meant

like your actual children or your students it's like if you're you volunteer coach or something or what the deal is so kind of both so I have I have two sons 13 and 6 16. And I've worked with them a little bit, teaching them to lift. Not as much as I would have liked as I've liked to. I need to get better about being out in the gym with them. And then I also started a weightlifting club at my school, which is, how do I put this? My school is very academically focused. So they don't have a lot of that.

They have sports, but, like, very limited. And, uh, some of the kids were really excited about it. But so I've done, so he might be referring to either. Yeah. Uh, so let's say, you have, uh, you know, great things and headaches from either situation. So feel free to take it wherever you want. Least fun, uh, I guess was, uh, having confidence in my own knowledge of how to lift.

Um, and also learning. the hard way how I needed to teach something and it was something as simple as a squat like I tried when I started my weightlifting club I tried to teach him to back squat basically right away

because I was like well squats swats king of movements we'll just work on this till we get it but some of these kids were so unfamiliar with moving their bodies and it was 8th grade and up everyone that signed up was an 8th grader um so they were just so unfamiliar with the motion that they they couldn't really focus on it and then so

i i dialed it back and was just like okay goblet squat like here's a dumbbell goblet squat well first i taught him to bodyweight squat and then i was like okay goblet squat and i made it so that once you can take the heaviest dumbbell we had which was 40 pounds um and you can goblet squat it 10 times then I'm going to teach you a new thing and I would then go and teach them how to zombie squat with the bar and then once they got that motion down

where they weren't they weren't cave in or anything their core was everything I was like okay now you can use your hands and you get into front squat and then like a couple like two months into it I was like okay we're going to do back squat put it on your back and do it and it was perfect

like awesome it's a really short progression too that's like logic word and sound progression yeah i remember uh late after the fact later on i heard uh dan john i don't know if you guys are familiar with him uh yeah the name at least yeah yeah scantz knows who he is um but uh dan john uh on his podcast he was talking and he was just like he was talking about how he would teach his kids to front squat and then when he taught him to back squat they would just be like oh it's the same thing but you just put it on your back and the kids were like oh like this okay and they just do perfect back squats

because once they learned how to front squat, back squat was nothing. So, yeah, I had to learn that the hard way. So that was probably the least fun is learning that I wasn't as smart as I thought I was about certain things.

Most fun was, oh, man, I had this one kid. And it's actually, I'm going to tell two things that are most, fun because they're kind of the same thing. That's fine. I had this one kid who was one of my eighth graders. He's very tall, very naturally athletic.

And as we got, he got more confident moving. I was letting him back squat. And he was just like, well, he's like, can I add weight? Nice. I was just like, yeah. And he was like, okay. And then he did it. He was like, can I add more?

And I was like, I mean, how'd you feel? Because it looked perfect. like you didn't slow down it was a consistent pace the whole time like and he just got really excited and he ended up uh think he ended up squat and uh like 185 for a set of six or eight and yeah and he was like super happy yeah he's i mean this is a kid he's taller than me and just he's not like he looks like a bean pole but he's really strong um but he was so excited and just like his face lit up um and then it was that a similar thing happened with my my oldest son, Brennan, where recently I, last year, actually, Brennan did a strongman competition just because he wanted to. And he kept asking me if he could. And I was, I never want to be the type of dad who like pushes them into things that I like. So I kind of was like, well, if you want to, sure, like, you can do that. But then I was in my head, I was like, well, I'll see if he comes back and asks me again.

Who are you, Big Tainer? Yeah. And he came back. You got to ask like three times. Yeah, he came back and he asked me three times. And so I was like, okay, sure. And he did a, it was basically like one of those strongman competitions. It was more like a power lifting me because it was three lifts, deadlift, press, and,

uh, farmers hold for time. And he did that last December. And I had him do an 18-inch deadlift because he's really tall. And he's taller than me. He's 16 and he's, I think he's 6-3 now. But he pulled three, he ended up pulling 335 on an 18-inch. And he was super, super happy. And then just this, just like a couple months ago, I had some buddies out.

Toby was there. And we were just lifting from the floor. trying to pull some max deadlifts and he asked if he could jump in and I was just like sure and he ended up pulling the same weight 335 from the floor and with really solid form

and I was just and he seemed really happy and now he like still talks about it he's like yeah he's like I could lift 335 and he's just that's pretty cool and he's real and like he brings his friends over

and like yeah that they came over just the other day they were hiding from the thunderstorm and they came in and started benching and he was like he was showing his friends what to do and I was like yeah this is cool like watching kids gain that confidence in their own strength is is fun is most fun yeah definitely sounds like the most fun that is awesome I like to hear that yeah that is good work my turn yeah buddy that's the hype man question so are you familiar with the hype man question have you seen this have you heard about this uh yes I have seen this I've heard about okay so essentially you're going for a big lift like it doesn't matter what the lift is vision it in your head you can tell us if you want

and you've got one person that's going to be the person to hype you up so you know you're going to hit that lift who is that person oh okay well so I've thought about this a little bit because I knew you'd ask first the kind of the first thing is literally anyone

because I find that I'm the type of person who because I train alone all the time when I go to a strongman competition or something like that where I have people over at the house, I tend to PR just because that energy of having people there with me like in the excitement like really, you know, hits me. I don't I don't really use them like smelling salts that much or anything. Even though I think they're fun.

I just I don't really use them when I'm lifting. Code on pain. And yeah, exactly. Well, I used to use them all the time, right? Because I was lifting alone and I was like, I need the hype. And, you know, as much as shout out to the crew who've been using our code left, right, and center for the new pumpkin spiced one, I have three bottles that are all just slowly rotting because I almost never used them. So I hear you on that one, my friend. Yeah.

But that's the thing is it's having people and having that energy is nice. When I'm having a good time, like, that's the hype. And the other person, the singular person, is probably my buddy Roulon. I've known him since we were, we met in seventh grade. And I am 36 years old. So that is a while ago. But he is one, he doesn't like, he's not over the top. He's not yelling.

But whenever, like, if I go for something, I can always just hear him over there. And he'll just, he'll just be like, you got this, Bubba? Come on. And whenever he and I are in the gym together, we, we have this competitive thing with each other where if, like, we were having kind of just like a little, you know, lift party at my house. And he came on his lunch break from the construction site, came from, came on his lunch break, changed into his shorts. he pulled 500 and then I strapped in and I pulled

500 and I was going for more I ended up getting it off the ground like two more times but not locking it out but in my head I was like well I still did more than him so fuck you we have that weird I mean we we we're the type of guys

that I can't explain it he and I'm going to tell one story I'm sorry I've been talking for a while but it's your show yeah this this story perfectly uh explains how rulon and i are like on the exact same wavelength with each other often we were at his house when we were probably both 21 22 um and we were walking opposite directions in his house like i was coming from his kitchen he was coming

from the living room and we pass each other and right as we passed each other i do not know who moved first. I, to this day, do not know who moved first, but we both locked arms like we were square dancing and then just started punching each other in the kidneys. Just as just as hard as we could, just laying in and just cackling laughing the whole time. And he's screaming in my ear. He's like, he's like, whoever pisses blood first loses. And his dad comes in and sees us. we're literally moving around in a circle square dancing hitting each other and his dad just has fallen over laughing and just like what the fuck are you two doing and we're both just like he started it but that's that's me and him and to this day that's how we are we just don't

hit each other as often now we just try to make each other quit with deadlifts that's one good answer I'm surprised no one says macho man yet that's oh that's a good one yeah that would be yeah i could have a whole episode just talking about like how many people i would have for macho man would be a go to you yeah you're gonna go and get that yeah all right pull from the swore you're gonna pull the slack out yeah yeah not the screaming macho man it has to be that low intensity that yeah the unsettling one yeah yeah with the eyes bulging out in the vein. So one thing that stuck out to me from your Instagram

was one of your log videos and it looked like it was about 4 in the morning and pitch black and just like your neighbors like that or maybe it wasn't that early. Maybe it's just not, I don't know, the, you know, sunrise and sunsets different times, all times of the year. So I don't, but it looked early as shit and it made me chuckle.

It's usually four in the morning. I get up about 4.30. I try to be out in the gym at 430 and yeah it's my neighbors have not said anything to me directly the log doesn't make a ton of noise because I have those crash pads now

so I can actually use it and they it doesn't make a ton of noise but I can't do it in the garage because how to put this my deadlift platform has a barbell rack basically right up against it so I feel like I don't have enough room to clean safely because if I start to lose it you take one step back you're eating I'm fucking nerling and the small you're back oh yeah oh yeah so and if I go forward I'm hitting my rack so

yeah that makes like that's not that's not going to work and then if I have the garage door open in the other area it's too it's too short so I can't really do it so I just started rolling and I put the log out in the very front of the garage and I just take it out to the street and that seems to work pretty well. But yeah, neighbors don't, they haven't said anything. Occasionally, like a neighbor will give me a little friendly honk as I'm out there as they're leaving to go to work super early.

Yeah, exactly. But no, nothing too bad. I am maybe overly considerate with it sometimes because, like, I have sleds. I have a prowler and a drag sled, and I would love to use them, but I can't justify using them on the asphalt at 4 in the morning. Oh, yeah, that would be a dick move for sure. That's like, that's like running a lawnmower at 4 in the morning. Like, even anything, like seven might be, like I wouldn't, I probably wouldn't do it until 8.

Those like, it's like, that's a Saturday, like late morning kind of deal probably only or evening. What I have, what I have done a couple times is there's like, there's a, there's like a little drainage. ditch thing that's just a big green grass field in my neighborhood yeah and I I'll drive my car over there and like take them out and use them but then that's a pain

in the ass so yeah so I don't do it as often as I should spend $5,000 and get a torque tank you know that's that's the right I will tell one brief story about myself did I already tell the story when I was out in the garage and I got I hit the uh I don't know

whatever log PR or something and I screamed like an asshole and so I guess I don't think I did, but I so, I don't know, it was like last week, maybe a week and a half ago. And so I did have one of the houses next to us, it's a rental property, but the owners, we know them very well, they're over there, like anytime someone moved out, they're over there, doing a lot of work and stuff. So she happened to be home, and I guess heard me when I hit that big PR, and I was like, fuck yeah, fuck yeah, fuck yeah, like extremely obnoxiously loud.

And she came over later to talk about like some, some, you know, just some, some homeowner stuff. And she was all like, were you out in the garage doing something? And I was like, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, sorry if you heard me. She's like, just scared the shit out of me. Yeah, sorry about that. But like, for the most part, like, I don't know. I'm out there for maybe 90 minutes. The music is barely loud because it's just a little DeWalt stereo.

So it can't be that loud. And then sure, I scream like once a week if I, you know, at most. So I don't feel too bad about that. But I'm telling you know, 4.30 in the morning. It's like 4.30 in the afternoon. So it's not been an issue, but recently. anytime I have to figure something new out because any time I train a specific event

for my next competition my wife calls me from upstairs on the phone and she's just like, are you okay? She's like, the bed is shaking. And it's a Conan's Wheel to kegload event.

And how I'm training it right now is I'm basically using a chain yoke and doing, you know, just marching in place while holding it for 30 seconds, set it down, and then I'm loading the keg over a bar in my rack.

And I'm using the crash pads and everything, but apparently the stomping on the deadlift platform, and then the loading of the keg, it's right below where my bedroom is. And so apparently I'm just shaking

the bed when i'm doing that i mean i guess like it'd be so dangerous but like don't don't don't do it on your crash but i mean obviously it it goes back to the whole spending that five thousand dollars for the the the torque is uh sand dune or the stand dune or the stepper or something but i wouldn't really want to do that with loaded with that much with like weight on my back i mean just doing it as a way to like sprint in place without you know causing knee damage sure but yeah i think she said i'm not ideal now last time we talked about it it was this week um she was just like maybe like you just tell me that you're going to do that the night before and that way when I wake up hearing it I know he's not dead he's fine that's good at least

it's more of a safety concern than I like this loud asshole is concern it's it's mostly she's like because I'm also grunting a lot during it because that freaking zircher carry with the chain yoke is uh ugh hate it I hate it so much it doesn't sound fun Morgan once posted on Instagram that having a weightlifter husband just means every once in a while

you hear somebody in the basement scream, yeah, buddy, and then 300 to 400 pounds will hit the floor. And I was,

I was like, yeah, yeah, you're not wrong there. Yeah. I'm a very quiet lifter most of the time. I don't yell a whole lot.

It's been a long time since I got like amped over a lift. Very, I think the one you are you're twice as animated as I am and I think the one time I've seen your stuff I know one time I it's whatever works for you man I pulled something that was like crazy heavy for me and I did let out a good scream because it went up when I locked it in and I put it down again and that's that's when I got the hello are you okay but because I'm in

the gym I'm not looking at my phone so she comes down the stairs scares the shit out of me because I'm like the way the gym is is I'm kind of tucked behind a corner and all my flags block the rest of the basement and I was loading the place or something. She's, hello, and I was like, ah! She's like, are you okay?

Ah! Anyway. Hey, doodlebug, we got to get into some stuff here. I was just going to call him that. I love it. Son of a bitch. Yo, yo, you'll DBU. God damn it.

Thanks, Mom. I think we got a lot on your weightlifting. I don't think there's much in the notes to really talk about. Yeah, we got to power through it. We're going to be here for four hours. Yep. All right. How's it?

All right. So naturally, I have to ask. Okay. What was your wrestling name? Where did you wrestle? Did you ever do any shows? So tell everybody why I'm asking. And we can bore Keith for the next five to six months.

No, this is, this sounds entertaining. We're not talking about WWF Yeah So we for sure are not Come on the fiend Yeah Yeah

So Joey's asking Because I did dabble In professional wrestling A little bit for like five years And yeah I started in college I I've been in college

So I went to college for like six years total um and about year four i was getting really uh burnt out um i've been playing rugby uh for four years and i absolutely love rugby it's an amazing sport it is the finest the finest form of running a ball down the field that there is um and i was a by the way you had a which oh who did you have on recently there was a rugby player yeah who was that peter i was just yeah i think it was peter yeah but he was a back from the description and I was a forward

so I played actual rugby I don't know what the fuck he was doing shots fired I'm just kidding I love the backs but when you're talking about like the scrum and everything I was a front row player so I was in the front of the scrum

are your teeth still yep that's surprising I figured wear a mouthpiece all the time and just don't lead with your fucking head but yeah so that was fun great time i drank way too much beer but uh it was getting to be a point where i was just really burnt out and i it was the first time i ever like quit something because i was just like i just don't i'm not

feeling it i don't have the love for it i'm not looking forward to practice anymore so i just told my coach i was like i got to go like and uh i had found out that recently on campus there was like a pro wrestling club where they were trying to start like actually doing pro wrestling so I joined them and we got through that we got hooked up with some people who actually knew what they were doing and we had a ring and stuff and we put on some real shitty shows and I say that with all the love in my heart but objectively they were fucking shitty I was bad but then from there. I met some other people, got a little bit more training. And I ended up doing shows

after I graduated. I did some shows mainly down in Tucson. I met a group down there and was doing shows that like, I mean, you know, I did shows like in front of bars out in swap meets, which I mean, you know, it's in swap meet, but there was, you know, few hundred people there like it's not it's not like nobody but it's very small and uh my wrestling name you asked about it was uh was dan mercer that's where the that's where the uh i kind of saw that coming i'll be honest with you yeah yeah originally it was just mercer um and then eventually to expanded it to dan mercer and variations of that but uh gimmick was the suplex addict um And so I like to throw people.

That's my favorite move. Yeah, it's mine too. That's what I used to say, deadlifting was suplex practice. Oh, exactly. That's what it was. And it was, well, because I had an amateur background, because I did amateur wrestling all through junior high and high school. That's an amazing sport, and I love it.

So I knew how to throw people. And, yeah, but I know, I just, I did shows. The biggest show I ever did, I think, was I did a couple shows up in Flagstaff that were at the Orpheum Theater up there. So it was a nice theater and had a good amount of people. And I did a show at a Comic-Con down in Tucson. And that was super fun. That was our staging area was where the wrestlers were. It was our dressing room, but really we were just behind a curtain.

and it was behind where they were having the panels for the Comic-Con and I remember just sitting there and I was just kind of waiting for my spot and I realized the panel behind me was the Rocky Horror Picture Show and it had all of the surviving cast members from the Rocky Horror Picture Show. So like Barry Bostwick was there and like Columbia Magenta

and I in high school went to the Rocky Horror Picture show like every weekend for a while where they had like a shadow cast so I was just sitting there like leaned up against the wall listening to it and I was just like

this is pretty sick if I didn't hate the Rocky Horror Picture show that would sound amazing I have fond memories I just mostly the song the time warp

just irks me it's probably a karaoke PTSD I can imagine that but you have to understand for me of course I actually, I enjoy the movie.

It's just that one song. And then every Halloween playlist has it. And I'm just like, skip, skip, skip, skip. I have never seen that movie without a shadow cast. That's fair. Yeah. Because that's more fun than just watching it at home. Yeah.

All right. So that's wrestling talk for now. I'm sure it'll come up again. Probably. I want to hear some funny stories. I got a few here. what's the the balsam candle story

if you don't want to talk about it you don't have to I got other ones I'm going to guess that's from my wife or her friend Ashley yeah it doesn't show us on the notes without going into a bunch of effort so I don't if I don't know if it's from my wife or not

I don't know if I can talk about that all right no you're good don't worry about it tell us the one you can talk about oh Jesus no we'll just move yeah i don't want you to um tell me about the time you almost died with a block press why i look to see who submitted it oh fuck um okay so um it was actually uh it was that strong man competition but i met toby at but it was a year earlier uh when they had it that it's called

the unbroken strength games and they decided to do an event and the person who who runs that event i i love her to death she's amazing she does a lot for the man community in Arizona. But I don't know whose fucking idea it was to have the first event be a block, press, and hold. Because it was, you had to press

and then hold it. It was like a hold for time. The time was the event. Jesus. Yeah. What kind of spotters did they have? That's fucking stupid. They had they're going to go to failure and going to fucking die. They had spotters. They had people ready there. That's dumb shit. To do what?

Yeah, for you to pass out. Like, that's They had one guy, they had one guy who he dropped it and he dropped it behind him and the spotter caught the fucking block. And then the other spotter grabbed the dude's arm and yanked him to the side right as the first spotter dumped the block so that it didn't land on the guy's Achilles. That sounds way too fucking, like, intense, just dumb. Yeah, I fucking get up there and I couldn't quite press it because I couldn't get a handle on it. They were brand new blocks. They had the paint on them was slick. I mean, they were nice.

I think they were made by TSS, Texas strength systems. So like the plate loadable, like steel one similar to like the shield that we carried, but more of the block. I was wearing rubberized work gloves because they said we could. But even then, I was having trouble finding the middle. And I got it up almost. And I dumped it a couple times and hadn't actually got it up. And then I finally got it. and it rolled and I ducked forward and the corner which on those Texas strength ones there's a rounded corner and then there is a sharp corner and the sharp corner hit me right in the middle of the back Jesus and I fell forward and you see because it's on my Instagram too so like the fucking spotters and people are just like oh shit there's like well we just watched man get paralyzed I think my kids were watching the live stream at home when that

Happened. Trauma. Yeah. And I was just like, fuck, that hurt. And I had a big line across the middle of my back from it, the big wealth. But I was fine. Like, I did get hurt during that competition, but that was not. Unrelated to the time that you died.

That was my own dumbass moving two farmer's handles when I was warming up and not realizing that they were the top loaded ones. And I didn't realize my foot was between the plates. Oh, yeah. I don't say that down on your foot, bud. Yeah. No, I didn't set it down. I smashed my foot between the two plates coming together.

That's worse. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, I see what you mean. I see what you mean. Yeah. I don't walk right for three months. When I do, when my farm is like that, I end up like, it almost turns into a frame sometimes because they like crisscross in the front. I'm like, well, I'm not going like, stop.

I'm just going to keep fucking going. Like, I can't stop. But that's more of a me issue, not having a big, like, wingspan, I guess. I did check. It was Ashley submitted it, not your wife. Oh, okay. Fred with caution, that's, do you? Yeah, I'm not going to tell the full story, but I understand why she had that.

She said it was great. We'll just say that we were just say that we were in college, and that's when my wife and I met each other and fell in love and everything. And, you know, just, you know, I can't say anything more, I don't think. You're good. Don't worry about it. We're moving on. I think we all know what it involves. involves and we're not going to have you put anything.

You're not going to put yourself in a compromising position, my friend. Yeah. Yeah, we had most people talk about the block press. How old were you when your friends convinced you that there was a threatening phone call on the pay phone that made you run away? Oh, son of a bitch. Oh, man, I almost forgot about that. This pay phone makes me think you had to have been like 10 or 12 minutes.

No, no. I guess maybe 15. No, I think I was 16. and that that had to have been from my buddy oscar so he uh yeah he and i uh we met in uh in like eighth grade um and but we were we were friends and so we were friends through high school and he was one of my groomsmen at my wedding um but uh we were walking uh in mesa and uh was and he lives we were just kind of walking back and forth from i forget where we were going we're going somewhere in the downtown and we're walking back to his house and we're just

kind of going back and forth in the night um and we're walking right past this venue called the mesa amphitheater it's an outdoor uh venue and there's a payphone outside um and we walk past it the first time and it starts ringing as soon as we walk past it and that's kind of weird and we just kind of and i was like oh that's weird and the my friends are like should we should we answer it it was uh it was a it was my buddy Oscar and then our friend Saul and he's just like you know should we should we answer it and I was like no no no let's just keep walking we walk we go get some food we come back and as soon as we cross the pay phone again it starts ringing and this time I like jump

because I'm just because it startles me and they're like should we answer and I was like I don't know and I answer and I don't remember what they said but it was some it was something the effect of so I have to set this up a little bit better. We had walked about 20 feet past it and then I go back and answer it and they say something

I don't even remember what it was but it was some looking back it was silly but it was I was 16 it was dark it's not a great neighborhood and I just I just hear like

I could see you motherfucker and you're fucking dead and so I take off running because I'm not taking any chances Like, I've seen movies. And so I take off running and they both take off running with me. We run full speed and I am the fattest one there. So I am dying.

They're both fucking tall and athletic and shit. And we run and I'm gassing. We run all the way to his house and I'm just fucking gassing. I'm like, oh, God, oh, God, do we call the police? What should we do? And Saul pulls out of his house. cell phone and it's it's just a brick cell phone like it's just a like a Nokia and he just pulls it out and he just goes hey uh i have that pay phone um number saved in my phone

and i was just like you son of a bitch he uh he dialed it he dialed it from his pocket while we were walking that's great i had walked far enough away from them that he just pulled it out real quick when i answered it's really funny so it was it was good times they fucked with me super hard. All right. Anything else before we help on the FMK there, Joey? Nah.

I mean, there's a lot of stuff, but it's like we got, I've tried to move a bunch of stuff. It's 10 after 10. We got to go in. I don't know if you, I don't know if you guys know this, but I'm a really interesting guy, so. Yeah, you're good, brother.

We, uh, you know, we got to try to keep it to stop. Oh, my damn screen went. Okay. FMK, uh, are you familiar with the game? Do you want to, do you want to, do you want to, uh,

take the honor of explaining it to your friends and family of what the game we're about to play is? Yes. So basically you're going to give me three things and I'm going to decide which one I would like to fuck, which one I would prefer to marry

and which one I could just kill and do without. So Mary is like committed. Fuck is like for fun, kill I hate it. I love it. Perfect description. I like I like this

some fan well friend submitted one here um we're going to go three restaurants Wendy's Jack in the Box Pete's Fish and Chips which is a local to Phoenix apparently yes yes local to Mesa I think actually um okay so damn that's that's that's that's hard that's fucking hard um so when it's Wendy's Jack in the Box Jack in the box and Pete's fishing chips. Gosh, man. People actually call it Pete's Fitch and Chips or they just call it Pete's and then fish and chips is just kind of off to the side because like that's a

actually usually I mean refer to it as Pete's but oftentimes I would just hear Pete's Fish and Chips. I mean it's or sometimes people would just say I'm going to go get fish and chips but if you're in that part of downtown Mesa you know exactly where it is. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's only like two locations. One's in Mesa.

One's in the next town over Tempe. So it's fairly local. but okay so my reasoning for this this is probably from Oscar as well but he's so he's probably going to hate me for this but I'm going to go with I'm going to fuck Pete's and the reason for that is

just because it's not it's not something I can get all the time it's it's not it's not something I can only get once in a while and it's even though it's called Pete's fish and chips, I get the burger there

because the burgers were huge and delicious. I have not been there for a while. I don't know if it's even still open. But I would say that that's, I'm going to go with fuck because it's a delicious burger. It's huge. It didn't cost that much. But it's just

there's only the one or two locations so you just can't get it all the time. So that's my reason for that. Now that leaves me with Wendy's and Jack in the Box. And what is Jack in the Box? Well, that's like similar to which like not Southwest restaurant.

Oh, sorry. I don't realize that Jack in the Box is not everywhere. Jack in the Box is basically like a McDonald's Wendy's. Like it's a burger place that also serves tacos, but I will say they are not tacos. They're fine. They're delicious in their own right, especially when you're drunk. But they're not actually tacos. um i don't know how to explain that but they're basically a little deep fried pockets of meat and

cheese yeah that has that has a different name that's not yeah i'm gonna look it up while you sounds great but not a not a taco i think i think you're thinking like an empanada but it's not that either okay it's something completely different it is a jack in the box taco that's what it is it's its own thing it doesn't resemble any other food um so i think uh man uh i think I'm going to have to this is going to suck. I feel like such a shitty person. I'm going to have to marry Wendy's.

Okay. Just because it's usually fairly reliable. It's fine as far as price goes. They're pretty much everywhere. And they will give you, if you're watching carbs, they'll give you a lettuce wrap burger. No problem. I think I've got to go with

Wendy's, which means I've got to kill Jack in the box. And that does suck. because they are open 24 hours a day, 365, which means that when I really needed to get some takeout, like, on New Year's Eve or, you know, Christmas morning or something like that, they were there for me. But I think I don't eat it anymore because their food is, like, ridiculously unhealthy, or at least I perceive it that way. So, yeah, I think I'm going to have to go with kill Jack in the box. I'm sorry, Jack. Good answer. That was the restaurant in idiocracy, wasn't it?

I don't remember. That's the one they did McDonald's in any idiotic. He tried to go get food and he wasn't registered, and that's what said off the alarms. I think it was shot in the box. I thought it might have been Carl's Jr., though, because they... It might have been Carl's Jr., because the vice president was always, you know, brought to you by Carl's Jr. Charles Juner is hearties basically I believe I know I know that one I just don't yeah I had Jack and Boxing very I'm familiar

with yeah yeah okay Mount Rushmore time do you want to explain Mount Rushmore so Mount Rushmore you give me the you give me four thing or no you you ask me to name my four favorite things of something yeah because like how there are four faces on Mount Rushmore but I can name a fifth if I need an alien head. Yep. All right.

This one is very different than ones I've asked before. Okay. Give me your Mount Rushmore. A finishers to bump. Oh, so like taking a finisher. Yeah. Yep.

Oh, God. I made it hard. I'm sorry. You're a son of it. Nothing against your dear mother, but you have a son of it. My mother is a safe. My mom doesn't say. um god damn uh okay so uh man i got to think of finishers that i that i have taken um crossroads is uh or any variation of like a spinning cutter or a rolling cutter that's uh that's kind of fun to take because it looks super chaotic and looks fucking crazy but doing it you just roll over

basically or you're just rolling you're jumping and rolling yeah yeah and i remember there's a video of me taking one from from a dude and i take it and then i end up rolling and my feet end up crossed because i just go limp in the roll and my feet end up crossed and i'm just like that's a nice touch it looks like i'm dead that's nice so cross i guess crossroads is one um f5 is uh is another one that's uh that one's pretty good good. Somebody can F5 you? Yeah.

Wow. I was once told that I was the lightest big guy they had ever met. Very good. Because I was 300 pounds easy at the time. But I, as people say, I would get up for people. But like without it looking too much like I'm helping them, I had really good timing on the lift. So where I'd give them a little pop and they'd be able to pick me up. and then I post really hard against, like, when one guy picked me up for an F5,

I posted on his hip, I were actually on his lower back, so that I'm kind of supporting my weight on a stable part of his body. And apparently he said it was, he picked up guys 200 pounds that didn't, that didn't get up for him that much, that weren't, there were much, it was like throwing a sandbag, but for me it was fine. Nice touch. So yeah, F5, I'm trying to think. what finishes what other finishes I've taken because I I didn't take that many because a lot of times people didn't have me win because I was just bigger yeah um but uh okay so I'll guess I'll go yeah five what was that I just made a bad joke about how that's just physics um so yeah sorry so F5 uh rolling cutter mm-hmm um swanton

is fun to take because you just kind of lay there and go and just kind of sit up a little bit it hurts so much oh god that is as long as the person doesn't like sandbag your ass

and just or land directly on top of you yep yeah it's like oh that there's a one time I remember it's one that stuck with me where Jeff Hardy did one to Kurt Angle but he went from the outside to the floor and he landed like

ass first on Kurt's stomach and he popped one of his ribs. Yep. And I was just like, oh, that hurts. Okay, so F5s, Swanton, what other one that? Oh, rolling cutter. God, one that's fun to take. I'm trying to think one that's fun.

Problem is not a lot of people try to do, like, lifting finishers on me. So a lot of the finishes I did take were, like, super kicks and things like that. So I guess I'll throw a super kick in there. That's number four. Because, I mean, you can make it look really good. Yeah. just taking that super kick and then

yeah I mean for the alien face what's a hypothetical finisher that you would take that you think looks fun to take I can tell you one that doesn't look fun to take sure stenilizer oh yeah the one

the one where it's it's legs over so it's power bomb set up yeah then grab the head tuck the head down and then go full backwards into the corner so they yeah they ban that yeah kevin hoens does not do that anymore but uh that one i would not want to take um but as far as like ones that look cool that i feel like i could sell well um trying to think here sorry um gosh i'm drawing a blank oh oh just a fucking good lariat

oh yeah like that like a close line from hell a close line from hell like just just those are fun and I love those I tried to use one for a while as my finisher but I was just hurting people with it because I was not I didn't understand the mechanics of it and so I was just like laying into people and just trying to take their heads off and it felt bad so I had to stop doing it I can imagine

Um, you know, strictly, professionally, Stephanie Vakir's The Devil's Kiss would be on my list. Strictly from a professional standpoint. I do believe that you're referring to Alex Shelley's skullfucker. Yes. That's the actual, I'm sorry, but it is not her move. It is the skull fucker by Alex Shelley. That is the name of the move. Yes.

But like I said, strictly from a professional standpoint. Stephanie Vakir I believe you you your basic carnal your basic carnal needs offend me I just thought that was so funny

the first time I saw I was like that move sucks but like obviously it looks great and because she is her everybody goes wild for it I mean that's true if it pop if people pop for it Like, that's great. I will say there's, I did see, it's such a, like, it's supposed to be like a demeaning move.

That's how it was originally done, right? It's supposed to be like, it's like, you know, it's supposed to be disrespectful. Yeah. But like, there's a, there's an old, like, Ring of Honor clip from like 20 years ago where Alex Shelley does it to Jimmy Jacobs. And he does it on top of a chair. And Jimmy Jacobs, like, goes limp during it. And so he's just, like, flopping Jimmy Jacob's limp body. over and over again

and you look you look at it and you're like oh this could actually like this looks it looks like that man's dead so it's always good if they look like they're dead

good job all right I think you passed them out Rushmore yay he did sick so we're gonna roll right into

a little unpaid or underrated so similar to you know some some copycats who like to play this overrated underrated game

well at least they used to what is what is that How do you play that game? You know, which I'm glad they don't because that means they'd have guests on. And we already, you know, unless the guests is already in our wheelhouse, then those are great. Never heard of them. We like guests we're already friends with.

So unpaid or underrated. I'm going to give him a topic. He just kind of has to use his druthers, kind of talk out loud and, you know, decides if it's good or if it sucks. And, you know, unpaid or graded. I'm going to hit you with, oh, let's see, unpaid or underrated frozen yogurt. We call it froyo. You need strong feelings on the frozen yogurt. The Froyo is also cursed.

Frozen yogurt's underrated. I mean, it's, and like, you know, Froyo places are, they're all over the place. They're all kind of similar. They've all went away up there. There's only like one or two. We used to have like 30.

They're all gone out of business. But honestly, it's, no, it's fine. Like I just had Froyo last week with my daughter. Um, and she was super happy. Like,

she was like, it's ice cream. And I was like, it's, frozen yogurt. Let's be honest here. But she got, you know, she got some pro, she got some fruit. We just hung out and ate it. It was fine. It was tasty. Like,

I got nothing against pro yo. So I'll go with underrated. Good deal. Unpaid or underrated. The peanut butter spoon with your cereal. That is massively underrated. So specifically, so specifically, okay, you're all going to. going to know my shame.

And this has to have been my wife that called me out for this. Is it a fat hack or just, yeah, yeah, yeah. So basically, I love peanut butter. It's a huge peanut butter fan. But specifically smores cereal. I don't know if you have that. But it's basically, think about if they put golden grams and cocoa,

let's see, not a cocoa puffs. and then marshmallows in a cereal together. Yeah, it's my, it's so good. So, it's more cereal, and then I'll go and I'll just get a big, the spoon that I'm going to eat the cereal with, I'll get a big spoonful of peanut butter and just stick it right in the bowl of cereal with the milk and everything, and then the cereal sticks to the peanut butter, and then I'm eating peanut butter and cereal off of my spoon.

And this is my, like, favorite little treat for myself. Like, if I don't, if I'm not trying to make weight or anything, like, I'll, I'll do this, like, a couple times a week. It's nice. Maybe more than a couple. Did you do it today? No. No, no, no, no, no. No, I got home from work and got a beer and did this.

That's what I did. Oh, yeah. I keep forgetting. It's like, we're like, there's three hours fucking behind us, I think. Yeah, it's only 720 here. Oh, my. It's fucking 10.30 over here. um all right good one um my last one i'm gonna hit you with unpaid or i got oh damn i don't know if joey doesn't go with the one i want i'll circle back to him for my fourth uh unpaid or underrated mount st helens

oh shit um i don't know who gave me that one but i have might have a story about that which is why um what's why i think it's on there so mount st helen's uh i'm going to go with underrated it's uh so for those who are not aware um mount st helen's as the last volcano to erupt in the continental United States. So it erupted in 1980 on May 18th. It is special because it is what's called a lateral blast eruption, where most volcanoes, they erupt out the top. But Mount St. Helens, because what had happened with from previous eruptions, there was basically a granite plug that had formed in the central vent of the volcano. So when the magma started rising, it ran into that granite plug and it started pushing out the side of the volcano.

And they kind of knew this was going to happen because they have footage and measurements of you could see the side of the volcano start to bulge out in the months leading up to the eruption. And then when it erupted, basically there was an earthquake and the whole side of the volcano, this huge mountain that's, I think, I think it's almost 20,000 feet tall. This whole side just basically sloughed off and then everything just blasted out the side of the volcano, just a big ash cloud, pyroclastic flow, just erupted laterally. So it, I mean, it leveled a forest that was in front of it, just completely just snapped everything like it was matchsticks. I've been to the mountain twice. It's up in Washington State. and which is not where my mom is from. She used

to be able to see Mount St. Helens out of her backyard. She said it looks like a perfect snow cone. But if you go to that property now, you can't see it because the top's gone. But anyways, like I've been there and you see some, it's underrated because

the visitor center they have there and everything leading up to it is amazing. It's so cool. They've got they've got really interesting, interactive stuff. but like when you walk out onto the ridge to look at to look at the volcano you're looking into the part that the side that blasted out and uh one of the trees or you can see actually all over the ridge there are trees that were launched into the side of the ridge and you can see their roots are sticking out because they were launched in like missiles and buried into the side of the cliff basically that was very cool um so it's it's just it's a i was as a kid i was fascinated with that thing i don't know if you can hell. But it was amazing.

And then I got to see it when I was a kid in person. I finally got to go when I was like 15. And I was just like, this place is the coolest thing I've ever seen. And so quick story about that. A few years ago, we went to Washington State. I took my whole family to visit both my sons, my daughter, my wife. And I was like, well, we got to go see Mount St. Helens.

We're in Vancouver, which is in southern Washington, not Vancouver. British Columbia, a different place. But we're in Vancouver, Washington. It's right outside Vancouver. We drive, it's like a two-hour drive along small roads to get to up to the visitor's center and the mountain. And the whole time we're going, we're like, well, it's kind of cloudy. And we're looking, and we stopped at a few places.

And they had like a viewing camera that was a live feed to the mountain and you couldn't see it because of all the clouds. And we were just like, oh, me mainly. I was like, it'll clear up by the time we get there. We're going to get there in the early afternoon. And we got there. And my wife said it was perfectly, you know, the revelation of we get in, we go to the visitor center. We go and sit in a little theater.

They play a video that's about the mountain. And the way they usually have it is the video stops. And then they have the screen lift up. And it's this big, huge, full wall window that looks directly into the mountain. And we just see clouds. So my kids have never seen Mount Valence despite being there.

That's great. All right. My turn. Unpaid or underrated. Painting minis. Oh, underrated. Painting minis is awesome. And Big Matt, mostly squats videos, Matt, or actually squats videos, Matt, um is now he now knows this because uh i saw he posted he got himself some space marines

and um i messaged him because he and i have messaged back and forth a few times because i know he's into 40k lore but uh that's war warhammer 40k um but he he's never really done the minis before he just is into like he reads books basically uh so he and i make jokes occasionally we toss back and forth but he uh he finally got some space marines and And I guess he started painting them. I haven't seen them yet. So I got to message them and see how they turned out. But, yeah, no, painting minis is so much fun.

I run a project every year at the end of the school year where I teach kids to paint minis. And it's a nice way for me to spend the last week of the school year because I just get to paint and show them how to paint. And it's fun. I mean, it's something that's just relaxing about it. I didn't know that I would be into it. And then the first time I did it and I had some. something actually turn out well, I'm just like, you know what? This is pretty cool.

So, yeah, painting minis, very underrated, super fun. More people should try it, especially with how accessible they are now. Like, don't get me wrong. If you go buy like Warhammer models, those are expensive at hell. I think a pack of 10 is like 60 bucks or something like that. It's ridiculously expensive for what they are. But if you just go by like what are called WizKids minis, that are basically d and d minis

they're like a pack of two is like six bucks and they're fine you can paint them straight out of the box so exciting okay great stuff I have another one don't I

unpaid or underrated William Regal's retirement William Regal's retirement William Regal's retirement is underrated I think I've said underrated underrated to all of these so it'd be funny if I was just like unpaid fuck that guy no um it's one of

the best things I've ever seen uh in wrestling but it was like quietly really good because it happened in nxte when not a lot of people were watching nxte because it was very much the developmental and it was against uh cesaro who's uh claudio castagnoli and uh his promo that he cut before it that they played basically like while he's making his entrance was just fucking so because it's him and he's he's this old grizzled british wrestler and he's just like you know for me at the stage i'm at to beat this man who is one of the the best athletes i've ever seen in my life and is in the prime of his career it would take something of a miracle and he just looks at the camera and he goes but miracles don't happen for faithless old villains like me and it was like

just so perfect and it was because it was him basically saying he was just like I'm not going to win his whole promo was I'm not going to win but I'm a man and I'm going to fight him and I'm not going to win I'm going to lose and that's how it went like that was the story they told like he got the upper hand once or twice but he was outclassed and outmatched and at the end of the match he's like crawling and he like pulls himself up on Cizaro and Cizaro hits him with the neutralizer and puts him down and it was

my friend described it actually as a, are you familiar with the Sean Michael's Rick Flair like I'm sorry I love you it was that but in minor key it wasn't as overt it wasn't as like overplayed but it was almost is the same sentiment but it was done subtly

and it's just it was the perfect way for William Regal, who was such an amazing wrestler when it came to, not just what he did in the ring, but how everything looked and he was just so good at getting the reaction he wanted, whatever it was, for him to have something that it was, the devil was in the details of that whole exchange. It was a short match on a show that not a lot of people watched, but it's out there, it's on the internet, you can find it. It's like 10 minutes long. It's not very long. It's so good.

So massively underrated. Great stuff. Yep. Always loved William Regal. We'll ignore the short. He's, oh, man. We'll ignore that for a little bit. I mean, we could talk about it.

It's fun. He's oh man's man. And then proceeds to show him carrying a hammer, just walking around in flannel. Whoever came up with that gimmick was just so like, we're going to dress him like a lumberjack. But what does he do? Oh, well, he's a British technical wrestler.

He does a lot of wrist locks and submission holds and stuff. Like, clearly this is a man who's honed his craft, but he's a lumberjack. I'll have you to know. Actually, we all know probably who came up with that. We do. Thank goodness he's gone. Unpaid or underrated, and I can't wait to hear this. The show Two Broke Girls.

Okay. that show is unpaid agreed i uh i uh i don't hate a lot of television i and i just think i've seen people who are in that show i've seen them in other things totally fine don't hate them like don't mind it they do fine in other things but every time i can't remember i think it was i think it was uh i think it was out with my wife when we were just dating and she would like flip it on and I would just watch it and she'd be like, what the fuck? Because I could say every punchline before they said it because I knew what it was going to be because it was so, it was just so predictable, like painfully predictable. And I was like, I get it. She's rich and doesn't understand it. And she's promiscuous and

like broke and then I could just tell what they're what I could write the dialogue from there and it just kind of yeah I just I don't know why but that bothered me I was like this is this show is useless it's telling me jokes that I can already make in my own head what yeah I love cat Dennings but like no that that show no I feel the same way about friends yeah I can watch friends I don't know I can't I sit in the lunchroom And it's on sometimes. And if I forgot my headphones, I have to hear it. The laugh track kills me.

There's no funny jokes. It's all just like one-liners. And I don't enjoy it. I feel the same way about Big Bang Theory. I can understand that. I don't mind either of those shows. And maybe it's just because I mostly watch, like I have watched those shows mostly with my wife.

And like I enjoy watching them with her. She's really, she was really into friends. Like she's got a friend's t-shirt. yeah and so like we've talked to reach their own right i don't judge anybody for liking them but when they're on i i regret not having my headphones i can't stand them i could see that and it's largely just from a comedic standpoint and again laugh tracks no good shows have laugh tracks anymore yeah right right uh well i'm done keith you had one that you yeah i want to circle back to uh as as a wrestler uh

And someone that likes TV shows, it seems like, did you ever get a chance to consume the show heels? I did not. I do recommend it. It got canceled, kind of shitty, cliffhanger-ish, but most shows do anyway. So it's still worth watching. I do recommend watching it.

I think it's on Netflix now, too. So I think it was before it was stars. Now it's Netflix. Definitely, I enjoyed it, but I don't know. I also never got a chance to watch it. Yeah. Got the rug pulled out from under us there when it, you know, could have been going into season three.

So I still liked it. So if anyone hasn't seen it and likes wrestling and likes TV, give it a shot. Yeah. I will say I liked the show Glow. I watched the first two seasons for that. Yeah, that was good stuff. That was really good stuff. I was amazed to see awesome Kong.

Ladies of wrestling. Gorgeous. Gorgeous. Gorgeous ladies of wrestling. Yeah. Yeah, I watched all that. Yeah, but heels, I didn't get to watch heels, but I did see, Stephen Amel's

singles wrestling match that he had against Christopher Daniels man that was a while ago now I think that was like eight years ago and that was pretty good actually I was very impressed with him being an actor on Arrow yeah yeah so it was when he was still doing Arrow

and he was on he was on the first all-in pay-per-view which was not WWE but it was it wasn't AEW either because AEW didn't exist at the time. It was the precursor to AEW. And it was like the first match on the card, I think. And I was really impressed with what he did.

He did really well. Does it? I have to go watch that also. Before we jump in to the last section, I know you don't like W.E. I understand it. I understand why. But does it ever make you mad how good Logan Paul is at wrestling?

Does it infuriate? No, it doesn't mainly because I've never watched a Logan Paul match. I've seen spots, and I see that he's a good athlete. But he claimed to have invented the top rope rotating Osai Moonsault that was invented by Super Crazy. So he can fuck off. But I mean, that's also, that's also,

Okay, so I'll tell you two, two things about Logan Paul. First, there was the Japanese suicide force. That was a fucking strike one. This is strike two, denying super crazy his time. Fuck you. That one, I could be a word, but I do. I found myself watching him wrestle, and I was just like, damn it, he's good. Because normally when celebrities come in, they suck, right?

Like, jelly roll was at SummerSlam? Why? Why? Give that spot to somebody that's fucking earned. it. Yeah. But then it's, that's the old Roddy Piper

thing too, right? Roddy Piper hated Mr. T for that reason. Yeah. Like in real life. But yeah, watching Logan Paul work in his first match,

I think it was against Ray Mysterio. And he did the three amigos. And I think he was the first villain to steal it. I don't think Dirty Dom had done it yet. And the way that he did it,

right? Like, he just put this pause in and he looked at the crowd like from the first suplex position and you knew what he was about to do before and it's just like that little tweak

I was just like damn it like you got me I remember I tried to go back into watching WWE for a little bit and he was he was on it he was working a program with Kevin Owens and it seems like they're

so it seems like he seems like he's fine like I mean it seems like he is naturally pretty good in the ring, not just the physical things, but also the little pauses and things like that. But it also seems like they're smart enough to put him with people who know what they're doing. Of course. Because they have people like, I mean, like Ray Mysterio and Kevin Owens are going to make anybody look good. But yeah, I mean, it doesn't upset me, I guess. It would be easier.

Maybe it would be easier with my own internal feelings about him if he was bad. Right. That's what I just wanted him to say. That's, I think, what I was getting at. You just wanted him to fail and leave. Yeah, you're another celebrity. Yeah, sure, buddy. And then you watch him actually go and you're like, ah, I actually like watching him wrestle despite the fact that he sucks as a person.

For the record, I'll just say that Stephen Amel's better. That's me. Maybe. No, I pretty much stopped watching WW after the fiend after. Yeah. Ray Wyatt died. Well, you passed unpaid and underrated. I did, and the bonus.

So, yeah, we'll move into, you got anything for us there, a big day. Oh, okay. I mean, geez, now I feel, we've talked about a lot of, like, non-lifting stuff, and almost all of my questions are lifting related. That's in reps, baby. All right, so this first one, I got to read it, because this one took me a while to, like, really flesh out how I was going to, but most of these are kind of going to be like a would you rather type of thing so basically um let's say that your home gym can only consist of a rack and one of the following so you so you have a power rack and one of the following either you can have a texas power bar with homemade caveman weights which if you don't know what those are i'll explain or you can

have a full set of strength co-plates with the cat beast bar. So I've used the cat beast bar. Isn't there two versions? There's the non-neurled center. There's one without a center-neurling and one with center-neurling, but maybe it's, maybe if it has, I think, I think it doesn't have center-neurling. That's one you're talking about. Yeah, I think so.

It's stupid. It's, quote-unquote, a power bar with no center-neurling, but it's like $120 on Amazon sometimes. And one of the, one of the versions of it, I think, has Hill, Nerling. oh yeah it's similar to like yeah let's talk let's say it's that one it's that one with the hill nerling a shitty power basically a shitty shitty shitty bar it's so tough though I think I so I think I'd have personally I'd still have to go with the cap bar with good plates because I could still deadlift because I'm not trying to deadlift the concrete plate I'm assuming

you're talking about like concrete made plates or something or what specifically so so right around when COVID was happening there were several groups that came out with like uh plate molds yeah yeah where you can make your own concrete plates uh and i bought one and that was actually the beginning of my part part of the beginning of my home gym um i made a i made a pair of 45 pound concrete plates with uh with a uh pbc liner in the middle to be the sleeve and uh they weighed exactly 45 pounds oh dang and they were the size of a bumper plate I did cover them in a truck bedliner, so I sprayed them with truck bedliner to help a little bit. Honestly, as far as I deadlifted them.

There's videos on my Instagram of me deadlifting with them even before I spray him with the bedliner. And they worked okay. Like, they finally broke after I had gotten some other plates in the gym and I was doing yoke. And I had them on the yoke. So they were sitting like this. and I set the yoke down and they broke in half, even though they did have a metal ring inside of them, a piece of metal wire that I'd put in them for stability.

But yeah, it snapped in half. And that was just like, oh, man, because they had been through quite a bit. But yeah, so it would basically be homemade concrete mold weights and a nice bar or a shitty bar with nice plates. I would take the nice bar with the shitty weights, right? Because when I built mine, I bought Northern Lights, $2 a pound, neoprene-lined, tri-grip, like, weights, I don't care. I love my strength go plates and I use them first every time, right?

And then if I'm doing the hundreds plus the 45s, I like the sound and the clunking and everything. But ultimately, when I'm deadlifting, I want to feel more connected to the bar than I do the weights on each side. That's, yeah. Yeah. Like I don't care what's on each side As long as the weight is the same Maybe that's just me If you switched it to a

To a hex bolt bar I'd probably take the shitty plates But I've used I have literally like one of my buddy's house Like I've trained with that I've squatted 400 pounds with that shitty bar before So like I've also never heard of that bar The shitty, the bar that you're calling shitty is

It's a shitty bar but it's like it honestly It's the cheap it is the cheapest not Hex bolt bar that I would recommend someone to buy probably because it is on sale periodically. I went back and forth on this and I thought about doing a hex bolt bar as the choice. But I was like, well, but that's a safety issue because, like, I mean, some of those hex bolt bars can't hold more than three, four hundred pounds. So at least the cap bar, I think, is supposedly rated to, I think, at least 700 pounds.

Yeah, I've seen people do it with a fair amount of weight on them. Yeah. So that's why I picked it because I was like, well, yeah, it's obvious if you do it. the hex bolt. Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right.

All right. So let's see if I got this next one. Okay. Oh, okay. This one's interesting. My wife helped me come up with this one. So I got to explain a little bit. So this is a, would you rather?

So you can either have a Texas power bar with Strength Co plates, full set. But no other bars. Like that is the only bar. you can have in your gym, or you can have as many specialty bars as you want, as many different kinds of specialty bars as you want, but you can only have one type of weight plate, as many as you want of that type, but only one type. I think all 45s or all quarters. Yes, all 45s or all 25s, all 25s.

I'd go. I'd go. And we're talking not bumpers, I guess. probably either, too. You could choose bumpers. I could go all 25-pound bumpers, and I could still deadlift and press, and I could do 50-pound jumps, which is aggressive, but doable. I think I'd have to go for the sheer variety, because I need fucking specialty bars in

my life, because I would consider logs and axles specialty bars as well. So 25-pound bumpers, which I could fit, you know, I don't know, hopefully 400 pounds, maybe, maybe not. yeah i think i'd have to go that oh but if you could have specialty bars you could just have like one with extra long sleeves i'd get the elephant yeah i get the i get the elephant bar adapters and i fucking factor all that in and yeah i i think that's the move for me personally okay joey probably the first one

all right so just the straight bar with the plates yep but lots of plates different kinds of cool. Yeah, because I really sure I use my other bars, but I just don't think I need to get strong. I don't think I need other bars to get strong. I think you can still get strong with a basic barbell. Yeah, yeah. I can see that. The one thing,

so Keith, I would say, going that route that you decided to go with all the specialty bars, I think you made the right choice with a 25 pound plate. I think I think it, or I mean, actually, I actually kind of wish. then you wouldn't did you all your deadlips would have to be fucking like so from the floor and you can only fit so much weight yeah and I think it has to be a

quarter metal or bumper really yeah when my when my weightlifting club starts up again I'm gonna try to see if I can get a hold of 25 more 25 pound bumpers because right now we only have two sets but I remember seeing Dave Tate he made the argument that you know if he watches like especially his benching videos they use yeah yeah yeah they use 25 pound plates because it's just like it's like oh it's easy to change weights between people depending on strength like this is the way to go and I was like that makes sense and it's close enough to like plate quarter you know it's just quarter quarter exactly like it's just a 10 pound difference or a full five pound difference I guess each

yeah all right so this next one's for joey just for joey all right would you rather never deadlift again or never drink a key again. I would rather never drink a geese again. Okay. I thought you would go that route because you'd be like,

well, there's other beers. Even if it was like, would you never drink a beer again or never deadlift again? I'd probably never drink a beer again. Deadlifting is deadlifting his life. That is the correct answer.

If you get up deadlifting or licorice. I don't need a lot of licquish. I don't need a lot of sweets. Well, you like beer black liquorish. I do like black licorice, but I actually can tell you the last time I had one. Well, because if I recall, you said it was addictive, and that's why, like, you can't only have the one. So that makes sense. Yeah.

All right. So Keith, that sounds for you. Similar question here. Never deadlift again or never eat a chicken parm again. I mean, you guys have, the crew's ruined so many things for me. And chicken parr was one of them. I fucking hate every one of you. eat a man why he's down so many times

he's just instinctively just says go fuck I don't know I'll still eat chicken palm but it's not as it used to mean something to me and be special and be like a thing between me and the chicken farm before a show or a meat and now it's like you guys have made such petty bullshit out of it and thought you were funny and you kind of ruined

the entire thing for me so now I don't have to you know give in my OCD tendencies and like do it so I guess maybe thank you because you're helping me I was going to say, do you understand that that's a good thing, right? Yeah, but it came from online bullying, which isn't a good thing. Yeah. So I take that that you would never, you would give up chicken farm before you would give up.

Yeah, no, I think I've had chicken farm once in the last year. And it was, I can't eat it now without getting annoyed and thinking of people that think they're funny and original. Is it now that you can't do it because you, you know, you're afraid that some crew member will see him. be like look at him look at him he loves it i mean i'm i'm gonna get that for the rest of my life no matter what it's just i guess maybe part of it's like not feeding into it more but it's also like i don't my experience even eating it in the moment without crew around would be spoiled just because in the back of my head i'm just like these fucking assholes are going to think they're original again and it was it was funny for a while but now it's just one of those like i'm over it it's done

if i don't ever eat chicken parmigan i wouldn't be surprised but oh all right and i don't even like, I don't, I only, like, kind of like deadlifting, so. Deadlifts are okay, but I like, I like the variety of deadlifts now. I love that I have, like, five different deadlips that I can track. And probably more than that when you go axle and deadlift bar and sift bar, and it's all a little bit different. It's all the same, but it's all still 5% different. It is different.

Because if you tell me that pulling from the floor is the same as a 15 inch or a 13 inch or an 18 inch deadlift and that an axle and a deadlift bar feel the same, you're full of shit. Yes, Joey, Joey is full of shit. it because an axle bar feels different than a power bar. I'm not saying that you can't still show up to a show and have not trained on that implement and still do okay. Yeah, that's the point I was trying to make.

It's fun to have all these, I have all these different things and it gives me these million other opportunities to, you know, scream and be happy and proud of myself because I did hit a new PR on this variation because it is slightly different enough to consider it a different lift. Yeah, the point I was trying to make is like, honestly, if you only had a power bar. Oh, yeah. And that's all you ever used.

You could still be strong enough to use anything else. Yes. Yeah. Right? I just don't. If you have the luxury of, this is something Scantz has taught me. If you have the luxury of other bars or implements, great, but don't let you not having them hold you back from doing thing.

Yeah. That's extremely good advice. And I will say, I don't think Scance is aware that he's become like my, my cool lifting uncle, basically. because I message him all the time and just we just go back and forth he gives me lifting advice we talk about different shit like

yeah awesome no I love scantz he's a he's a good one to have around yeah awesome dude nothing nothing beats the stealing the SSB story from like pre-r podcast that was like back when we actually used to use the chat the video or the audio only feature in discord

when we could just shoot the shit I don't know what those even called now the voice channels whatever the fuck like I haven't, we've been one of those in like five years, like probably three years, but damn, those were fun. Eddie, Eddie did one recently, but I forget where I was. I was at work or something. I throw one up occasionally and no one ever joins because it's like, I'm like, I'm

like, I'm on a six hour drive and then like, no one tops in. I'm like, all right, I'm not going to leave this open for six hours. So goodbye. But my friend, uh, on his discord, uh, that he runs, he, he has, uh, occasionally is it, is it behind a paywall? Uh, no, it's, it's just, just friends of his, uh, There's a joke. Yeah, yeah, sorry.

You're good. I didn't get it right away. I'm sorry. But he'll throw up wrestling and we'll watch wrestling together sometimes. And then shoot the shit about it and live at the time. It's almost as good as watching wrestling together. A watch party, if you will, as the kids call it. All right.

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that don't even in crew that are using plates snacks for their home gym stickers. I think on Mike's podcast, you know, Tommy and Mike and Kyle's podcast this week, they specifically actually know it would have been Mike and Jake

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uh belt fed strength i think chris and them chris and randy are finally in that space now and getting everything set up they got all the i think the biggest thing they were just trying to get all the machines in place and it looks like they have a little secondary company he was working on two still under the same umbrella just kind of trying to market some different products uh so that's really cool to them to kind of branch out uh ashen at freedom fitness equipment you know he's out there doing all that good flooring aspects uh if you need any flooring needs and that isn't a stall mat to hit him up and then uh grant i think he's still out on a boat somewhere but he still has a company called the strength co and uh on his apparel code unpaid

will save you a little bit of money so go ahead and uh use any of those affiliate codes and that'll help nate figure out a speedboat and that'll keep him off of those uh tree branches and out of the sand and off his back he ate shit on that video it was great i wanted to make a reel where he just kept falling and falling and falling but it was just like I ain't got time for that but it was good stuff Big Dan where are they going to find you at there buddy So I guess Instagram Dan underscore balder dash

underscore Mercer That's about it And on Discord of course in the crew I'm Big Dan Mercer You sure go go sliding his DMs with any of that wrestling or strong man talk Hell yeah Joey were yeah

I had so much more we could have talked about yeah honestly like maybe i've said it before at this point maybe i need a wrestling podcast or something and i just bring in crew friends we have our own separate unvade and underrated wrestling podcast i didn't even i didn't even get to show you my signed eight by ten collection that's been my gym oh jeez i i honestly there's there's tag on paid we'll share it yeah there's definitely a chance that uh you know we could have talked about the crossover of strength training to wrestling and you know all that kind of stuff uh i am under joey at joey underscore melasco i'm l e czko forgot my own handle for a second there um we're looking at the inside of nate's car yeah how do we

let's get rid of that oh also you know what we'll do it in the post show and if nate wants to include it he can include it yep let's wrap us up and we'll get to the post uh yep that's joey uh we got the instagram unpaid underrated podcast website unpaid internpodcast.com where Nate puts a ton of work in and, you know, maybe down the road, that website will be, you know, shown up at some other places if we play our cards right. We got that YouTube where, you know, there's a handful of people racing for that first comment every week. And on Instagram, follow Keith Honeycutt 73. That's me.

More importantly, go follow my orange gym, then a wine cellar. Until then, we'll see you next Tuesday. I think what I really enjoyed was I was like, just a heads up. I have the sniffles. So if I'm breathing like Dave Tate. into the microphone. I'm sorry. And then Keith proceeded to breathe into the microphone for a solid eight minutes. That's good stuff. Yeah. Tell me that I'll mute it. I was like, that wasn't me. That's funny. Um, so Keith put out a thing on, on our Instagram and he was like, how many crew phone

numbers do you have? And then like 10 minutes later, I put up, how many crew penises have you seen? I didn't see that. I think that was fucking hilarious. I never saw that. Because it was zero or one. That's really funny. I got to go back and look at that because I don't follow you and you or, you know. I put it up on ours. No, no, I'm saying like I don't, I don't think I, maybe I do.

I don't know if I follow. I don't know if I might have you and you muted for my personal, so I'm not seeing it redundantly. But I don't think I saw that. So that's really funny. It was very, and because like the idea is if you are crew, you've probably seen at least one, which is your own. oh yeah that's really right and it's i was like i guess technically like well i've i've seen one and a one and a quarter because i stuff some that's i thought that was pretty funny because i was like i was like keith what kind of question is that and then i was no it was how many no the

specific question you're thinking of is uh how many crew do you talk to on a regular basis in dms oh okay yeah yeah which was that one was actually because i'm like i was trying to help encourage more crew-on-crew-on-crew crew-on-crew-action. Yeah, yeah, I thought that... See, and penises, that's still true in pre-action. I mean, Bryce and Paul

probably definitely can both mark two. It was so funny. I put up the skeleton with the Keith here, by the way. I'm gonna have to go into the archive of the, which is, I like that Instagram has like an archive. You can see every story ever post it, so I've got to go look and see

at the results of that. Yep. That should be, yeah, that one. one slipped past me. Hong Hong.