Unpaid And Underrated - 122 : Wet Eggs (ft. Big Jory)

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Jory. They dive right into great topics like pelotons, training at Massenomics gym, hot things, firefighting, and being a male librarian. Links Massenomics x ��npaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @knightime2010 (https://www.instagram.com/knightime2010/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Jory.

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I'm not gonna say my butthole but the butthole of the can is literally like so blown out That it's like But it's the only way I can never get it out is kind of like finger in the butthole of it good stuff step keith help me get loose probably TMI but like i think for the last month i've recorded and just a t-shirt and underwear it's been awesome just to like is that where we can see your ass every time you get up you don't it blurs out it does sometimes it does sometimes it does did you not hear me yell ass crack the one time you got up and walked away well that was like a year ago i did

remember that. It was like a month ago. Oh, well, I, I don't care. I'm not, I'm still not putting shorts on. I got to let them breathe. Conc, gawk. Welcome back to episode 291 of the unpaid and underrated podcast. I'm one of your host, Big Keith, joined as always here by Big Joey. Hello. And this week we got special guest crew, Big Jory. How you doing, buddy? right how are you guys wonderful wonderful big jor are you drinking anything fancy over there this week i am rolling with uh rip beer wrath from liquid death in the keith head uh kuzzi over here and then i've got some uh flat water in the massanomics uh shaker cotton tell good deal a variety

over here nice nice nice i just got some kirkland uh green with lime something or other actually waterloo let me speak Waterloo I thought I thought they called it Still Water because it's just still water They haven't done anything to it yet Well to ask Dan I'm drinking at Keith's like what else is I love that hoodie jewelry

That's when I was definitely like one I missed out on Is that uh I have that one I would have very much enjoyed that What do you wear this is like the one hoodie that I didn't miss out on I miss out on like all of the other ones but this is like the one that I actually was like, yeah, I'm getting that. Hold on, make it work.

He's wearing the, uh, the massonomics lift hoodie for, for reference for all our, uh, you know, for everyone except Big Derek who's not joining in life, you know, uh, maybe, who else is in here? We got, uh, no, we got a couple guys, uh, who the fuck is NAR? NAR. I don't know, is that Ryan? Yeah, it looks like he's Ryan backwards. Ah, fucker. Yeah.

He's like half clever. He always comes in with a. that he thinks is going to get us and like half clever I feel like that's my sense of humor as long as he's not as long as he's not a Ryan again because that one did not land

yeah he's always it irks me that his like his Instagram or sorry no his his YouTube is just like and I'm like 90% it's him because I think like Jen and I sussed it out on one of the group roundtables it's like DJ Oric or something and I'm like I don't it's nothing to do

with his name and I'm like I don't but I only think it's him, but I'm really not sure. So like when I respond to him sometimes, it's like inside jokes potentially that like, if it's not him and someone's just going to be like, what the fuck is this guy talking to me? So you have a hair on your microphone.

And it is making me think there's a hair on my screen. There's so many. My cat must have got all, actually, I'll mute it. I hate that. That's, I keep rubbing on my screen going, is that me?

Yeah, my cats are, I need to get like a Rumba for the air to get the air to get the, fucking cat hair out of my house like we didn't matter how many like filters we have. It doesn't matter how many like filters we have. Like I've got multiple like air purifiers and there's just fucking cat hair everywhere. Like

get two cats they said. Nobody said that. My wife, my wife told me was what was happening. Oh yeah. Okay. Well, Stephanie said it had to be. Yeah. I mean she's usually pretty honest. I'm rocking the the, uh, the brick massonomics gym t-shirt this week. home gym nerd over here nice that's a good one

yeah we can roll right into a little home gym YouTube video anybody get a chance to watch oh no the the the the roost home gym tour I don't let me down to

I didn't watch the roost I just made it through the massanomics gym tour which I don't know why I watch every year because I go there five times a week but it's always different to see what they highlight and what they don't highlight. Oh, yeah, did we talk about that one last way?

I can't, maybe that video came out on Friday and we didn't get a talk about it. I think he doesn't. You think it was not too about getting like, I think I've, I don't know if we had any influence whatsoever, but like there was a time. They were always coming out with the videos at like fucking 4 p.m. on Thursday. I was like, thanks, Tanner. You're literally giving me like two hours to watch the video like at best. But now it's, you know, I don't feel it has anything to do with us.

But like, thankfully, they've been coming out at like, so like 10 a.m. on Thursday. or something like that in my time, maybe. And so I usually, I can at least watch half of it at lunchtime and then finish it up, you know, when I get home if I haven't finished it already. So, uh, so yeah, last week's the gym tour was great. Uh, they've got, you know, it's, it's wild. They, they can almost do them one a year now. And it's like, you know, a fairly evolved gym each time.

But it was cool to do like the whole, this is literally a 10 year documentation of what it was. Like, that's pretty wild. Um, but I think it's cool. I think I, I think I might have commented it somewhere, but like, Tanner's going to have this like historical archive like so like saying 30 years in massonomics you know maybe maybe all this winds down in about 30 years and there's no more gym or crew we'll see it's going to be hard to imagine not being lifelong friends with some of the people that we've met in here uh regardless of massonomics ever existing like if massonomics dies in five years I think I'll still be texting like 30 these people that I've acquired in my friend circle so uh you know even if you guys go away we're not going to but uh coming full circle to wrap that three of thought of it's just like having this YouTube channel like with five or six tour videos of the gym that you've basically built as your you know commercial slash private gym it's pretty cool so always cool to you know see them do those tours and then anything stick out to you in the tour that they didn't cover that you were like man that's my favorite piece and you don't even talk about it I can't think of anything that really stuck out I think going back to your point like from when I joined back in 20s 18 to today, like just seeing, like, when you, I think back to when I first joined the gym towards that now, like, it's insane that he just piece by piece.

Like, I think, like, seeing it every day, we don't really appreciate all the time that Tanner's really put into this, but, like, seeing where it was to where it's gone now is actually really cool. Indeed, indeed. Anything stuck out to you on the Torvator video, Joey? I don't watch Longform YouTube. That's true. All right. So that works. I do want to watch Genelese.

But I kind of like came home, ate dinner, put the kids down, and jumped onto this. Yeah, so Jonathan and Tanner basically walked through that whole gym tour. It was kind of funny. I think I got featured maybe two or three times very briefly. just like the Keith Keith had Coozy and then they talked about unpaid underrated and there was something else I think but then Tanner busted my balls and they were talking about sandbags

and they literally talked about oh you gotta keep those away from Keith blah blah blah blah and then literally Tommy clipped in the video of the sandbag breaking and I'm like ah you fuckers so I did get a kick out of that so that was always cool

but yeah we did reach out to Jonathan and told him that we'll try to get him on and sometime in October we just got to iron out what time we're going to be starting because we might have some changes in the podcast start time. But yeah, that takes care of the Roost video.

And do da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Do you want to talk about your... Let me do a story, then you do yours, and then we'll go back to me briefly, I think. Oh, yeah, yeah, I know what that is. I'm trying to read my... Nope, I know what it is now. Sometimes, you hear them talk about it sometimes

where they put something in and are like, did I put that in or did he put that in? And it's like, okay, that was me. All right. So I think I pretty much... much told the whole story in Instagram and Facebook. So most people saw it. But that that fire situation, that was pretty intense. Um, you know, if anyone that didn't follow me, the, the 30 second version of the story is the, you know, I heard smoke alarms going off next door as my neighbor's

house. No one was home. We saw smoke coming out of the back windows, called the fire department. They were here within like two minutes and put out, they didn't have to put anything out because it was just a piece of chicken breast and a pot that was, you know, just completely, well, the funny thing was the chicken didn't even look burnt from the top, but it was the whole bottom of the pan was just completely charred. And a few different firefighters and I'm friends with had spoken out. And he's like, yeah,

there's a good chance that that could have eventually sparked and like caught the cabinets on fire and, you know, taking the house. And though it was just the neighborhood we're in, I know no one else would have called the fire department until they like saw the house literally on fire because there's just, there's not a lot of, there wasn't anyone else around other than us that would have heard it and called 911.

So just very lucky. because their house is so close to my house that if it was fully engulfed, it would have jumped and taken my roof and my house would have been gone as well. So I'm just thankful we were home. And then ironically enough, I think it motivated me,

that whole event motivated me to get back into Chicago fire, which I haven't probably watched in a year. And I think I've been like 12 episodes of that over the weekend. Just like, I was just like in a firefighting consumption mode. So it was, I don't know, that was good stuff. So, but I kind of put you in perspective of like,

man, my, my, if we weren't here, my cats could have died, could have lost the whole fucking house. Like, that's, this scary. That's really scary. So, uh, everyone listening to this, go check the batteries in your smoke alarms, please. Because if they didn't have functioning smoke alarms and really good fire, you know, uh, detection, you know, life might be not the same right now. So we, uh, we had our carbon detector go off in the, in the, in the, our carbon monoxide detector go off. So, you know, not risking the children or anything. We evacuated and, in, um, we evacuated and, um, we had our carbon detector.

the fire department and they came in and they were like the one in your hallway here is expired he's like but you seem to have three more on this floor and i was like yeah my dad does that and he looked at the kids and went your grandpa really cares doesn't he like yep yep yep yep he had to check those things here and in here he was like we have to change it like we can't have it expired so i don't know down to the stage but in canada of the fire departments he's expired ones, they can't let it go. They have to change them. Good deal.

What do you want to tell? Your news that you hinted at there in Discord? Yeah, yeah. After 13 years, technically 15 years in customer service, I'm going back to a warehouse. I have a new job starting next week. Nice. Congratulations.

Going to get Forklift certified, brother. Was putting your notice in, sweet victory and just like I know you've had a too much of this relationship over the last couple years of just kind of the job evolving to what you didn't want it to be yeah yeah uh it was scary you know leaving changing jobs at 40 is scary yeah right because like but also i've always said that comfort is a slow death and if it's uncomfortable for you to move forward then you should move forward and uh you know i don't think i can fail at this job because i've done this job unless I somehow forgot how to drive a forklift,

which probably not because I did it before. But yeah, I just don't want to be customer facing anymore. It's so exhausting. This job is pretty much 8 to 9 p.m. every day, 8 a.m. to 9 p.m. every day on call, miss my kids. I have to work weekends. And I just can't do it anymore. Like it's not suitable to me as a person and as a father and a husband.

So, yeah, it's time. hope I don't devolve into a grump. The cool part is now, um, I don't have to care how I look so I can just grow out my beard and grow out my hair and just become an absolute monster. Do you think you be able to like one air potter all day too? Like just no, no, no. When you're driving a forklift, you don't have that. That's true. I don't know if you were going to be a forklift all day long and how much, I don't know how much of it's going to be just like walking around doing stuff versus just literally moving pallets all day with the forklift. Yeah. No, um, we fabricate manufacture and ship out doors.

And during the interview, it was really funny because he was like, you know, some of these doors are pretty heavy. And I was like, define heavy. Yeah. Yeah, he was like, some of them are 120 pounds. And I was like, yeah, that's easy enough to lift, but probably hard to put down safely. So like, I can see double teaming those. But he's like, yeah, most of them are 40 to 60 pounds.

And I was like, I might not need people. Yep. Thanks, Derek. And now I won't have to go to the gym. Yep. nice good stuff yeah so we're excited we're going to we're going to try to potentially move the well we are going to experiment with moving the start time up an hour and then go from there to see if we can go up any earlier because i you know it's it's a balance of you know we've been recording

at 830 for literally two years now so we kind of know that i have the whole evening and then stephanie'll kind of go to bed around you know 830 so moving that up kind of cuts into that time but also getting to bed not at midnight is going to be fucking awesome even even an hour hour puts me in bed at like 10th, like asleep by 11 as opposed to asleep by midnight and yeah, like done with a podcast by like, I mean, if we're going past 9.30, it's like, that's, okay, let's go to bed now. 9.30 would be 2 and a half hours. Well, 930 would be 2 hours. So call it 10 of the latest. Uh, but yeah, I'm excited about that. The only thing it might, the only thing I might see it being hairy is if we had like California people and they're like,

I can't record at 4 p.m. And I'm like, well, okay. We'll, you know, we'll see. Sucks to suck, California. Would it be five? Yeah, no, because they're three hours, so it would be four. California sweat hogs. But, I don't know how many, I don't really don't,

I can't know, I think we've done a ton of California guests. I don't really know too many that we haven't done that I'm like, you know, that we've like been in talks with. So I don't know. That's,

but yeah, that's awesome, brother. Is that a longer commute then? Or is it kind of not the same? So when I left my, my other warehouse to work at the warehouse, I went now, it's the same amount

kilometers but a quarter of the time because of the traffic now I'm going back to where that one was because it's right around the corner so now I'm back to an hour and hour and a half commute some days yeah but that means I can bang off massonomics in yeah there you right because now it's like 25 minute drive I can't get through anything by Thursday now I go back to well driving in at 630 might yeah your morning commute you might be surprised because like yeah me just driving 20 minutes at 6 a.m. versus 730 it's a completely different world It's the 4 p.m. end time that I'm like, well, I'm going to be an hour. All right. One last thing for the last week's episode is shout out to our buddy Jason,

Man Who Parks and Jim. He did a little, well, part of this is self-serving for me because he talked about the no wine cellar in his podcast, but also what spun off of that was there was an unpaid, unrated banner. Then he kind of talked about unpaid and narrated for a good couple minutes and talked about, because, you know, he's going to be an upcoming guest here next month. he's there's a funny story of how he became crew um so look you know tune into that uh but he you know while talking in preparation anytime i schedule someone and i know they're not really like regular listeners i try to implore them to like all right please listen to a handful of episodes so you know he mentioned that he's been you know listening to a couple on his commute and you know

he's doing some remodeling and he's just uh he likes that he feels like i don't know what episodes he's listened to but he sounds like at least a handful and he says like every episode he kind of has like at least one thing that he can kind of resonate with or relates deeply to with what the guest said and how he kind of like wants to be able to talk to him

in the moment kind of thing and it was just it was really cool to get like the perspective of someone like he's crew but more crew adjacent just because he doesn't really he's not very into the discord

I don't even honestly don't know if he even listens to Massonomics podcast it's kind of funny but it'll come up on his his episode but just getting that perspective of someone listening to us for the sake of getting to know

the crew and like kind of grow his circle was just really cool. So I just really appreciated hearing that from him. And, you know, obviously a couple shoutouts to my gym. And he referenced, because he's, he's one of the guys I'm in a group chat with from when I did the bunch of the garage gym experiment, a podcast. So we've been, you know, talking for three or four years pretty regularly. And he knows, you know, he was, I think he, you know, he knew about the garage gym, or the, the, the no wine shooter before anybody else. So then he like referenced the toilet in my basement like four times. in his little, like, five-minute spiel about talking about me. So I just thought that was great. So I look forward to getting to talk to Jason in basically next month because he talks significantly more than I do and gets more animated than I do. So it might be a long episode. We might have to probably not deep dive him too much because we can't have a, I don't want to have a four-hour episode, but it'll be a good time.

And that'll lead me into letting Jory talk about last week's Maxonomics episode and giving us a rating on it. All right. So this last week's Mastonomics episode was episode 491. So they talked a little bit about different fitness influencers and things like that and how the comparison between what they do and what they do. But the bulk of the episode really looked at Tommy's new addition to his home gym, got a Peloton, and really kind of did a deep dive on everything that goes into that.

Tanner apparently thinks he was going to get one for the gym. I don't know, but he did just send me a snap of something that he just bought for the, got for the gym that I don't know who's going to use it. You must have missed the pre-show then. I did miss the pre-show. Oh, yeah. We'll cover that maybe in a minute. And, but it was kind of interesting because, so my wife has like the off-brand version of the Peloton. She had the I-fit pro form bike.

And so it was kind of interesting hearing the differences between them too, but how they're very, much the same thing. And they kind of seem, it kind of seems like a money grab, honestly, with the way that they do think certain things. But overall, it was really informative for people who are looking at buying one. So I would read it, uh, five out of five of a horse on that. Nice. Good up. Good rating. Good rating. What about your joy? Yeah, I got through most of it. I have about 15 minutes left. And, uh, yeah, I, I don't ever see me getting a Peloton. It just doesn't seem like a thing,

especially because I have Apple Fitness, so all I need is a spin bike and Apple Fitness, and it does almost the same thing, except for the gaming aspect where you're, like, competing against people, but that's fine. There was a couple, I think that when Tanner was trying to guess what Tommy had,

it was really funny, because he just went through the whole thought process of it, and just, never settled on Peloton, which I think was kind of obvious because there's like no way we would have guessed that after all of the anti-Peloton talk and anti-subscription talk on the podcast. So I'm going to go ahead and give that one a five out of five way too expensive monthly subscriptions. Yeah, definitely.

I enjoyed the Peloton talk. I wouldn't say I enjoyed, but it was it was intriguing. I learned more about Peloton than I ever wanted them to know. I don't know that it would be for me in the aspect of like, like, I don't know, like the competitive edge, you'd be something I'd have to, like, see, but that $40, $44 a month or something, I think Tanner hit it hit it on the head, like, if it was half that, like, I could pay $20 a month for like six months or something and then like shut it, you know, or alternate months or something, but like, I don't know, what's, what's the big math on that? That's like, it's going to be like $600 a year, right? Like, that's, that's an investment. That's more than I want to pay a company. just for the subscription to be a part of it. Like that's hard enough to pay $3 a month to be a part of something. I don't want to pay it's fucking... But what do we pay

juggernaut, right? With that's different. That's literally coaching. That's completely different in my book. I mean, that's... I couldn't believe that if you buy one second hand, you still have to pay $90. Yeah.

So then you activate it. Like, that's insane. Like, the bike itself is already like $500. Yeah, that's kind of wild. Like, imagine your barbell just came with like a lock on it and it was like you had to give Texas power bar $90 to use your secondhand power bar like that would be insane that would be insane do you know what's frustrating is when you're at a commercial gym like I you know go to a plethora of different commercial gyms

when I travel for work and you like you see you find the bar you want to use and it's got a fucking lock on it because it's someone's personal bar they left there or it's the gym's bar that they only look like like club members who are like in like the inner circle the gym use I'm like motherfucker I want to use the deadlift bar and it's got a goddamn lock on it, uh, are relevant to the podcast, but the way you said that made me chuckle, because it's happened to me more than once where I've gotten cock teased with a, with a barbell and they had a goddamn lock on it. Um, I did like that they, I think last week I had alluded to like, I heard something on Tommy's, uh, do you even lift bro podcast that was like pre story, like,

breaking, breaking news. And I couldn't remember what the hell it was, but it was if he dropped that they were flying to home gym con. And then I'm trying to like logistically thinking about that. Like, that's kind of suck to set up a booth. and fly in. They're going to like basically mail everything to, I'm assuming,

uh, uh, big, uh, big Brandon. Oh no, I mean, because Brandon's like a half hour,

Brandon Doyle. So I'd imagine they'd be like, well, because I mean, the hotel's not really related. The hotel's not where the event is. It's like a two, three blocks away.

So I don't see them being like, yeah, shipups palette of loads of shit. So. Well, I don't think they intend to have a whole booth. They're going to have a table. But even still,

it's going to be like, like five large boxes. Like you got to have some kind of, you know, merch, uh, and you can't not try to sell some drink spotters because that's, and like,

well, now they do, they'll have the fucking stall mat coasters. Well, now it's like, and fucking no way isn't going to buy those shirts. Like, it's gonna be packaged with stallmout coasters.

I don't want to stall mount. I don't want to stall mack ripper as well. So they'll have to get those restocked before 2026 home gymcon. But they'll probably sell out at lift hard live easy. So we'll see. But yeah, uh, I'm gonna go ahead and rate last week.

episode five out of five peloton's. And Big Jory, do you want to hit us with a sponsor read? All right. Are you a fan of drink safety, chicken bakes, and lifting adjacent memes? Are you a strong but silly goose who's looking for a new gaggle to call home? Then do we have the deal for you? For the low low price of $3, roughly the price of a large white monster, you could become a supporting member of the Massonomics podcast.

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All right. Let me find something here. Hey, Big Juicy, is that you? Yeah, that is. You are live

and unpaid and underrated. We're going to get rid into it. We don't want to miss any of the gold that comes with this. So I'll start. What brought you to Massonomics? So I joined Massanomics when I moved back to Aberdeen back in 2018.

I had bought the lift shirt. I followed Mastonomics on Instagram, but didn't really know much else about them. And when I was moving back, I saw that at a gym, and I messaged Tanner, and I said, hey, I'd love to come check out your gym.

I'm thinking about moving back. So I lifted there one time, and I went, yeah, yeah, this is where I'm going to live, as long as I live in Aberdeen. So I got myself signed up. and I don't know that I could ever go anywhere else. So that's how I ended up at Mastonomics,

and it's been seven years now. Wow. Now, did you have to message Tanner twice? Like he always likes to tell people, they have to vet them and make them, you know, DM them multiple times to get that tour? I don't remember. I think it took a couple days.

It was for him to get back to me. But I think if you send them through Instagram, it's a little bit faster than going through email, just he seems like he's on Instagram a lot more than he is on his email good deal so just the list of the listeners know who we're talking to go ahead and hit us with

your name your Instagram your Discord all that jazz My name is Jordan's I am at nighttime 2010 with a K on Instagram I don't I think I'm just big jewelry

on the Discord. I don't think I've changed that at all. Good deal. It was a pretty easy name to get in the group. And you had mentioned, obviously, you were initially from Aberdeen. You lived somewhere else for a while. Now you're back in Aberdeen. Where were you at in between there?

Well, actually, I actually grew up in Sioux Falls. I came up here to go to school. And I was living in Madison, South Dakota for a while before I came back up here. I worked in a gym that's kind of like a YMCA, but in a very, in a smaller town. So it was kind of nice to going to a gym where if you put more than 400 pounds on a swap bar, you don't look up in the mirror and see half the gym staring at you. Sir, you're going to hurt yourself. I don't miss that aspect of a commercial gym at all.

I can't imagine. so sorry i was burping if you're wondering why i was doing that no i figured i was just i always tried i was i was giving you the next one because i was like i don't want to do three in a row and then i was like oh bad timing all right so seven years of massanomics you've been pretty much there for everything is there something that you didn't buy that you wish you had i mean i i wish i would have gotten some more of the hoodies but definitely the sweatpants it's really cold Navaridine when in the mornings when I go to lift a lot of the time a lot of the year so those black sweatpants with the red lettering down the side I wish I would have got those there's also a lot

of stuff that I wish she would do a second run of I just in January tore a hole in one of my deadlift socks and luckily I had another pair in my bag but I tore through the heel I lost my huge life shirt which was like the softest shirt that they've ever made I don't I have no idea where it is I've moved several times since then so I haven't I missed that shirt a lot so there's definitely some stuff I'd like to see come back is a second run but I think the sweatpants or some more hoodies would definitely be something I wish that I would have gotten nice I think sweat that might be the first answer for sweatpants possibly I like that I think the hoodie problem is

they just don't sell them fast enough because they're kind of seasonal yeah I think they're hesitant to do them. Well, now's the time for the drop. Like, don't want to, like, if you don't bring the hoodie out in the next month, it's going to be like, no one else, I mean, we'll still buy them in the winter, but like, now's the time because then they'll sell a through all winter. What's your Hall of Fame that is after today? After today, I move into number 10.

I'll hit two years here in October. So if I can make it to Crew Falls, I'll hit Cup level. That's an easy one, man. It's literally a three-hour. drive and even if you drive go home it's on my it's on the weekend of my dad's birthday even so i feel like i have to do it this year you'd already bring you're dad well yeah i could even shoehorn coming up friday nights too so you don't miss tanner or miss tommy's uh grip challenge so then stay at your parents and hit hit the tour up and then just like you know you don't even have to stay for this

if anything the saturday night drinking is kind of like the you know it's fun but you know if you don't want to make it a three day weekend then you could right dip out after the lifting on for for Saturday. Oddly enough, Tommy lives like a couple blocks away from my parents' house. Nice. Because my mom saw Tommy walking his dog at time and she called me, goes, who's that blonde guy that does mass

onomics? Tonner. It's Tammy and Tonner. Absolutely. What's your supporting membership number? Let's get that one out of the way. Supporting member 291. As of two years ago? Or which card?

as I have as of October or I this yeah so as of two years ago so all right so the gold card yeah the gold card yeah well Tanner will post in our channel sometime next week what your I love that he does that that's a cool thing that he does for all the guests I appreciate that Tanner and enjoying seeing that for sure um so we know you don't have a certified training gym but you train in one so that's good I don't take care of that check um yeah I so I Yep. Yeah, so my dad lives at a certified training gym down in Sioux Falls that I train at when I'm down there. And I was really sad when I went to my brother's wedding in Chicago. I looked at the math and I couldn't find any out in Chicago area to go to. Where's he at Jonah Leo's? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the name? I can't, what the hell's the name? Liberty Barbell. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a shirt and they really come to like one of the most comfortable shirts I have. That's the one I bought up. Yeah, I have one other. They have an Under Armour hoodie that I have too and it's super comfortable.

So this is one of my, you know, I enjoy asking this question. You might have a little different perspective just because you're, you know, a lot of people you know are going to know massonomics well enough. So when you had to send out the questionnaire for the podcast, basically, how do you, how do you go about explaining unpaid and underrated to your friends and family that you need info for? So to the people that I sent the actual questionnaire to, I said, so you guys, so you guys, they understand that the massonomics guys have a podcast. I was like so this is so like my wife knows that the crew is and stuff but like I was just like there's this group of people that are all fans of massonomics and it's a podcast for those people but for the other people that I was like what are you doing that I was like oh I'm filming a podcast and they're like oh what's it about like it's it's lifting yeah right comedy and mystery

on me yeah pretty much yeah all right Right. So relatively new segment we got here. It's called Lease Fun Most Fun. So that's where I give Big Jory here a single kind of statement slash topic, if you will, and he has to go through it and kind of deliberate and what he thinks, the least fun thing about it as well as the most fun thing about it. So Big Jory, I want to hear Lease Fun, Most Fun, being a male librarian that lifts. So I think anyone who's in a or around a lot of people that don't lift or don't train Like you can say like what you did in the gym that morning like really that's insane like I can't believe you do that all day Yeah so like I think a lot of people are just like surprised like that I tell them a certain number and like that's like the size of whatever is just like but it's like in my world it's really not that much yeah like you said with the doors it's

certain things are heavy to a lot of people but when you do this all day it's it's really not that much I think the worst thing about it is any time that anyone in the general vicinity of the library can't pick something up or or move something, whether or not I'm busy with something or not, it becomes my task to go take care of it. I had to move a filing cabinet once that probably weighed like 200 pounds, and that was not a fun experience.

I do like the idea of a male librarian, as if librarian itself is not gender neutral. There's shockingly not a lot of them. I can imagine that, but also if somebody, looked at you, they'd be like, but are you a male librarian? Well, I mean, it's in the same vein as like, you know, people give Bryce and Paul shit for being male nurses kind of. It's, you know, it's common, but it's, I don't know, I feel like I've, I've gone to the library a lot in my life, probably not in the last 10 years, but there

was like a five year span that I was at the library two or three times a week, you know, getting books and movies and, you know, CDs and shit. And, uh, I don't know. like one male librarian in my entire life maybe i know i i understand that completely but at the same time would you look at paul and go but are you a male nurse well i guess i listen to a lot of fucking i've listened to like you know i probably have fucking huck finn in my head because he always talks and calls bryce a male nurse so it's something it's just kind of osmosis fucking gone in my brain i just don't think you need that i think if you know brice you would just make that assumption i think i would be too right if i went after surgery and brys

is standing over me, though. What the fuck? But call me, banana hands. All right. We're going to do the hype person question. So you got your next big lift, whether it's a meet or just Jim, PR, whatever. You got one person that's going to hype you up. Dead alive, past, present.

Who is that person? I mean, it's probably. If I'm going with anybody dead or alive, it's probably my dad. My dad's been powerlifting since well before I was born. And there's some, I don't know what it is if it's just a desire of us for me to make my father proud or if it's just the way he is. But something where he can just like hardly say anything, but just like reach inside your soul and like make me want to go do something. Other than if it's just gym guys, it's usually big Ross that's pumping me up for a, like, Lyft, but if we're going to anybody, it's probably my dad.

Well, now it sounds even more like your dad needs to come to Crew Falls. So he's, he's been toying around with the idea of lifting and Lips Hard Live Easy 4. So bring him over to Tommy's for the grip challenge and let him see how fun it is and be like, this is a quarter of what the Lift Hard Live Easy is. How did you, that's even more of a double whammy of how the hell did you not make it to Crew Falls last year when it was at your day? That's goddamn gym. Like, what the fuck, Jory?

I think so... Two years ago, yeah, my bad. Yeah, so this would have been 20th, December 2020. The reason that I think usually don't go is, it's usually the weekend right after Thanksgiving, and I've just been down in Sioux Falls. Gotcha. So, I mean, it seems like, feels like a lame excuse, but in the moment, it's just like, I don't really want to drive it.

Now, if now it sounds like it's going to be what gets you that sippy cup for the hall of... It is. It's just to get me the cup. I mean... I need a silly pint. Yeah. Well, at least this one's free. I mean, it only cost you, you know, eight years of your life, but it takes free.

Yeah, all right. What's this, what's this one here? It was just something that Zach, I just, Zach sent me a whole bunch of stuff and I just copied it all at once because I'm not going to individually break it up. So there's some good stuff to pull from there, but it might not necessarily fit in this time zone. Yeah, right. So how did you You said you worked at a gym previously, right?

Or you said you worked out at a gym. Okay, so we went from working at a gym to working in a library. How does one make that transition to being a librarian for a career? So I actually have an undergrad degree in sport marketing and administration and a master's degree in sport leadership. So I was doing that. I was working as, so I was actually the recreation director for the city of Madison, but my office was in the wellness center area.

And so I did some of the stuff with them, and then I did all the city wellness stuff, or rec stuff. So then I moved back up here to do a different job. We did it and did a couple other things. Didn't really like what I was doing, wanted to get back into a, more of a front-facing position, kind of the opposite of where Joey's at. I, for some reason, enjoy seeing people every day. So I applied at the library just as they had an opening

and ended up really likening it. And I've been there four and a half years now. And it's never something I thought I wouldn't go into. I didn't really even read that much before I started working there. but I think I'm through like 77 books so far this year. Woo. Love it. Nah,

nah, nah. Well, Dodds, we're going to have to kill your video there, buddy. Yeah, please.

But that is, it's like not only did Jory get tiny, all I can see is fucking Dodds going down the highway. And I'm like, I do love you, brother. I know you're safe. I don't need you to show me that you're driving safe.

Big Jory, is there a story with how you met, Ryan DeFay? Um, yeah. So I think I've told Ryan this story. I know I haven't told Tommy this story. He'll know. So it was, it was 2018, it was this, like, early 2018 before I moved back.

It was the weekend that I ended up, like, trying out massonomics. Uh, I had just driven up after working all day. I was having supper with Big Zach at Loggers. and Ryan DeFay was working there part-time and I was wearing my lift shirt and he comes up to me and he's taking our order and he goes you know my brother made that shirt

and I was just in a bad mood for whatever reason and I just kind of assumed that I didn't know who Tommy was at the time I just the only reason I even knew who Tanner was is because I had to email him to set all this stuff up and so I just thought he was some random guy that worked at like QQP or something. So I just kind of looked at

Ryan's like, that's cool. He just kind of like stared at me and I just stared back at him and then he just kind of was like you can tell they're just like, why is this guy such an asshole? Big ghosts, huh guys? That's really funny.

Well, see you later. And then I realized it like the first time I saw Ryan at the gym. It was just shit. That's a really funny story. I do want to briefly, so it was in, I want to say it was in Bryce's video with him and Paul,

and they mentioned Tommy Defei a couple of times, but he would, like I don't know if it was a bit, but they kept saying Defei. I believe it was Defei. It might have been another, you know, bastardization of Defei,

but it wasn't Defei. And he said it like three times. And I'm like, each time it had me questioning everything I know about the Defei brothers. And like, there's no way I've been like, hearing their name wrong for like five years like that's not possible and then uh i don't know i was surprised no one else called it called him out on it um so yeah to go look go watch paul's

or um bryce's recent video with paul and listening to him fucking butcher the the defa name because it made me chuckle but yeah that's hysterical and you've never did you ever follow up with um with ryan about that now that you've been friends with him for fucking eight years i think i told him and i don't think he remembered because i'm sure to him i would just some some asshole that he probably ran into like 75 of the night but like that's one of those things like I immediately saw him as like that was the guy from longer so you knew so you were buddies with Zach then prior to massonomics it sounds like well Zach was actually my RA my freshman year of college he's my same age but he's a spring birthday I'm a fall birthday so he's a year

ahead of me in school. So he was a sophomore when I was a freshman. So I have known Zach since the fall of 2010 and just kind of hung around each other long enough that we became friends and then each other's lives ever since. That's killer. He's a good dude. He was a good dude. So when did you start getting serious about lifting? I started getting serious about lifting. I started the summer of grad school, I started kind of just going to the gym and since my dad was a power lifter, I just did squat bench deadlift

because that's what I knew from my dad. And so doing that and then kind of kept, you know, when you first start lifting, you get pretty strong really fast. Like if you stick with it, like your numbers will just shoot up. And I think it was a year or two later, I decided to do a unsanctioned meat

just to kind of dip my toes in the water and see what it was like. And did meet, I think it was 2019. Oh, no, it was 2017. Ended up really liking it. And that's one of the cool things like if you go into lifting cast, or not lifting cast.

sorry, open power. Like, now that I know all these people through doing competitions, through crews, things like that, is like, oh, this person that I know now was in the same competition as me. Like, Big Katie Stensland and I did the same meet back in, like, 2016, 2017. I had no idea who she was,

but now I see her every year in Tanner's backyard. So. Why does it say you'll, love squats and hate deadlifts who hates deadlifts what kind of life is that i don't i hate deadlift just because i've never been good at them i've always had a pretty decent squat i've just i can never i think my biggest thing with deadlift is i can never get it to go consistently it's always the one like in power lifting if you have two things that are going well for you it's pretty good but I can never get deadlift to be one of those things and it's always if I have two things

going well it's always my squad in my bench it's never yeah um just piece of advice pick it up stand up yep yeah I'll try that yeah see see if that works for you I'm here to help number one coach appreciate it okay Keith what do you got here um how did you how are you a uh Cubs and fan where did where did those uh how did those in and date your life um dolphins are from the uh dan merino was the dolphins quarterback back when i was growing up so unfortunately that's how i became a dolphin's fan because they've just been absolutely terrible since he retired uh i became a cubs fan solely because of wgn because watching tv in the middle of the day and oh Oh, yeah, yeah, I remember that channel.

Is that even a channel anymore? That was, yeah. I don't think it's nationally broadcast anymore, but I think it is. I remember that channel was a kid, yeah. They're like random movies on on like Saturday and shit. Yeah, so the Cubs always had day games, so I just would watch them during the day. And that's honestly how I became a Cubs fan.

Oh, Jess sniffed right into the microphone. I'm so sorry, everybody. So basically you think your old man is what got you into lifting with him having the power living background? Is that something you guys kind of bonded over? Do you think you ever clash heads when you were a youth or anything like that based off a lifting? Because he, you know, you being the young head and him being the old head and, you know, having more knowledge and knowing more about it and you not wanted to hear it. Did that ever happen?

Yes and no. I mean, he tried to get me into lifting a little bit when I was a kid or when I was, not when I was a kid when I was younger. I remember going when I was really, really little. we had to go to the gym with him a couple times and sit over in the corner and then like we'd have to go to some powerlifting meets and I just thought it was the stupidest thing in the world because powerlifting is not an exciting sport to watch but I remember just get it kind of getting into it that's one thing that my parents are really great at they'd never really pushed me into anything but they kind of just let me do my thing so I came into powerlifting on my own but now that we're both lifters there is the back and forth where we talk to we talk each other through things like things that are going on with our lists and then but there is i'd be lying if i said there wasn't that rivalry where i always want my dots to be higher than what my defense is just because of that's part of being a dude he's still an active

competitor than you said? He just actually won his Masters, I believe it's M M2B or M3A USAPL Nationals. That's cool. Are you submasters if I had to guess?

I will be submasters moving into next year. I turn it's 3.34. I turn 34 in a couple weeks. Nice. And then it says you've done 14 meets. You got me edged out a couple there i think i've only done 11 12 maybe um you're actually an official how does how is that uh that's something i've been asked to do like multiple times from people i'm just like

man maybe when i'm older i don't know i just when i'm still actively competing i don't know let's just just i think being official has it definitely has its up and sound i mean here it's not as great just because there's not a ton of meats yeah i happen here unless you want to drive nine hours yeah well because like I'll get emails from powerlifting America and USAP. Oh, and they'll be like, hey, if you're coming to this city that's like nine hours from where you live, we'll pay you $100 a session. It's like, that's cool.

I don't really want to drive that far. Yeah, I feel that. I mean, there's the aspect of it makes you, I think it makes you a better lifter being an official because you understand. what officials are watching for when you're up on a platform you understand the things you can do the things you can't do but uh there i mean there's definitely i think the most awkward uh uh thing to officiate is bench especially when i'm officiating like women or especially high school meets of like because you have if you're a side official you have to watch if somebody's butt comes off the mat and it's just like i'm just staring at some of

someone's butt and it's really I'm really talking about that back yeah like you're watching like a junior or a teen lifter or you're just like staring like that's that is could be borderline inappropriate it's powerlifting as it's you're wearing a sinklet in front of your friends

so it kind of is what it is so maybe just start thinking of of it as you're looking at the space in between their butt in the pot in the bench that's true I'm not looking at your butt I'm looking to make sure there's no space in between you and the bench

that might make you feel better. Yeah. Not less awkward. Just trying to help. Have you done all three lift hard live easies then? I have. I only got to do a bench this last one. I have,

apparently I have like no cartilage left in my left knee. So I had to get a shot in my left knee and I wasn't able to get that until like three weeks before the meet. But I'm training to go to WPPO worlds right now. now. Oh, nice. I know a lot of people. A lot of my friend, well, I mean, there's a handful of crew, but even one of my buddies, like a local Rochester lifters, like, you know, very, very high, high level USPA 198 guy. He was, he, he, he signed up for Dave's meet and down there the Arnold adjacent. So that's pretty cool. Steve's daughter is going to be doing that one.

Yeah, that'll be, there will be a lot of people. So I might actually, you know, if we, we didn't make it last year just because it's, you know, it's off site and it's just kind of like, you know, I don't know, but it might be worth, you know, creeping over there briefly just to see some of the homies because there's going to be several crew competing. I'm definitely excited to get a full meet in because I've already looked at some of the guys that are in my weight class in this meeting.

I was like, oh, yeah, this isn't going to go. I'm not going to compete. You're going to total 1,700 to 2,100 pounds, and I'm over here, like, just chilling on one leg. Yeah. How is the left knee then after that shot? Because it's so much, isn't it? it's felt really good so far i've got some pretty heavy leg days coming up here in the next two

weeks so we'll see really outside of when i first get up in the morning it feels pretty good right now i don't know those heavy leg days are just going on the pendulum squat right that's what i was just thinking too that thing does not take a lot of weight to just suck yeah it's like like a plate feels like 315 or something or what do you like what do you think yeah a plate with the band just feels awful. I don't know. I'm trying to figure out because there's like three different settings that you can put the band on and Ross basically guilted me into going on to the hardest one.

And it's not fun at all. Ross has told me multiple times that he's about puked doing it. That's funny. We got him back on the platform. He didn't compete. Did he only compete once? He's talking about coming back for. Okay.

I'm trying to remember. Did he do one and two or just one? I think he just did one. Ah, what a fucking guy. We got to get him back out there. He was in Discord for a minute, too. I'm not curious if he's still active crew or not. I don't know.

You're going to keep an eye on that guy. It's Mount Rossmore, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Matt Rossmore. Good dude. He's case, I think he actually was the answer. Did you listen until they, when they got to your question on the live this week, Joey? No.

So we didn't listen to the live. I want to say, I thought it was where you were in there. Ross was the answer for at least one of them, if not both of them. Maybe Tommy was the only one that answered it, I believe. Ross came up pretty, maybe they'd be, I don't know, it was a lot. They kept us on for probably an hour and a half until they kicked us off, maybe, so. It's good stuff. Well, I'm happy my question got asked.

Uh-huh. Um, what you got for? Yeah, so this is actually pretty topical to today's Discord discussion. Very active Discord. Yeah, we were talking about ketchup. um and i made a silly typo yesterday which i still think is hilarious um i went to say ketchup is a trash condiment and wrote compliment and then i put my phone in my pocket and went about my day for two hours and i came back to the crew kind of ripping into it and i was like no i'm

leaving that that's it's funnier to leave that typo that is good uh and then somebody actually it might I've even been you, Jory. I don't quite recall who it was, was saying that they put ketchup on their eggs or spicy ketchup. And I thought to myself, gross. How wet do you want your eggs? Like me, myself. Yeah, so I understand you have a wild thing that you put on your egg.

I put mustard on my eggs. Oh, what the fuck? And my wife thinks it's incredible. My wife's in your camp. She thinks that's absolutely. What was the second? Macaroni and cheese. I'm okay with the mac and cheese because I think if you, like, especially if you're making the cheese sauce, dry mustard would really add some good flavor to it.

But the, yeah, the scrambled eggs thing has me. Oh, like, bleh, bleh. Eggs and macaroni and cheese go to better. I do that or hot sauce. I go back and forth. Yeah, no, no. Eggs and macaroni and cheese go to. together better than fucking mustard in either

of those, these psychotic fuckler. I just, I don't know, mustard on a bologna sandwich or a turkey sandwich is about all I can do. Mustard on anything else is just... I'll put mustard on almost anything. Mustard is a delicious flavor. I don't love mustard. Mustard is the only thing that tastes like mustard.

That's not wrong. There's nothing else. So I love the flavor and I love adding it to things. It's, especially if you get like a spicy mustard. That's why ketchup is just tomatoes sugar you don't really need you could just put tomatoes on whatever you're eating and it would be easier uh but definitely yeah mustard on unscrambled eggs is uh i remember i remember i remember seeing that when i read it earlier and i forgot about it until you said it and everything it was

that much of a how when do you want your eggs like what that so i got like i don't necessarily put ketchup on eggs but if i'm eating a potato with the eggs like if i'm at a restaurant and i have like home fries like them putting ketchup on those and then ketchup will inevitably get on the eggs and it's not a big deal or if you have really shitty dry eggs a little bit of ketchup isn't the worst thing but ketchup goes on french fries and grilled cheese and that's where it end ketchup on grilled cheese is almost as weird as fucking mustard on eggs i've never no no definitely only in your mouth ketchup on grilled cheese what ketchup on grilled cheese i think would root like am i the outlier here for sure are you trying to get like the

grilled cheese and tomato soup kind of can flavor then i guess that's the only thing i'm gathering that would be not disgusting about that but ketchup's too like vinaigory for that oh you just dip your grilled cheese oh that's interesting I can't wait to see maybe it's a Canadian tell me I'm wrong yeah maybe it chips so that's probably more I love a grilled cheese too and I I'm trying if I had if I had to dip a grill is you do dip it or do you put it on it you dip it yeah yeah that's not as gross as like making a grilled cheese in a lab because I'm trying to think like as I grill a grilled cheese I'm not putting ketchup in like the frying pan oh god no

ketchup doesn't fry well no well no It was just burn and caramelized. Well, you would put it, like, in between with the slices, but it would still be in there. That would be awful. But dipping it, I guess dipping it wouldn't be, because, I mean, a grid grilled cheese is almost like a, it's like a fry texture on the outside. If you do it right, and it's nice and crispy. So, like, I can see that not being horrible, but like a grilled cheese. There you go, challenge.

Try it. I like the flavor of, like, burnt cheese. I don't know. I don't want to add. You get a sharp cheddar and you get some good, uh, rye bread or something. and you just give it a dip, dip, dip, as my kids would say. That's interesting.

That is significantly less disturbing than mustard. Mustard on scrambled eggs. On the other hand, it looks like you and I fully agree on our wing seasoning. What's your wing seasoning of choice? Dry rub, it's lemon pepper. It's lemon pepper every time. Oh, yeah.

And the place I go to, hold on, hear me out. Hold on. Hear me out. Okay. Lemon pepper tossed with Frank's red. Top tier. Top tier flavor. yeah give it a try spicy lemon pepper it's it's where it's at for me okay

all right keith what you got you're up there's just so much stuff there's so much stuff what do you have against james cameron and you know avatar oh fuck that movie um i think it's just a giant rip off of polka hona it is yeah and it just I don't know if there's anything other than that. I think I also just hated how everybody was, like, obsessed with it when it first came out. And I just didn't really think it was that good of a movie. It was one of those that, like, I feel like I'm the outlier of, like, everyone loves this movie. And I just didn't think it was that good.

And then because everyone continued to love it. I was just like, no, this movie saw it. Did you ever see the Ryan Gosling thing from Saturday Night Live? I don't think so. so it's him like talking to his psychiatrist and he can't stop obsessing over the fact that they used papyrus as the movie title and he's just like he can't stop

like he's losing relationships and he's going into a spiral insane thing that it's the world's biggest movie and they used papyrus oh yeah because it adds to your hatred of it once you see that skit see if you can't find that one because that's that's good stuff. We don't normally talk politics,

and I don't want to get political about this whatsoever, but it is kind of cool. You are the chair of the Brown County Democrats, so that's kind of cool. Yes. And it sounds like it went from being a very small congregation to kind of growing to where you have a decent amount of people that show up every month.

So that's something you just kind of like started out of your own, or it's like something you had to like, how did that come to be? So I've been fairly politically involved. I was fairly politically involved. I was actually SGA president back when I was in college, so I kind of fell out of it for a little bit after that and then decided to get more active with everything that's going on out in the world today

and was asked to step up and take a leadership role and ran for chair. And we're in the process right now of trying to change some things and grow some things. But it's quite the journey without getting too deep into the politics side. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We definitely try to steer clear. It is just, it does show the, is dichotomy the right word? It's like, basically how like one week we'll have someone way to the left and the next week we'll have someone way to the right and we just don't care. Like, we're just, they're all our friends.

We try not to, you know, let that hurt anything, obviously. But it is just really cool. Like, we can definitely have a very pendulum effect sometimes of people's political views. But, you know, we're all just crew. We're all here to have a good time. Absolutely. But also, like, being community. involved is a thing that you seem to have been doing for a long time.

Yeah. I don't know. A lot of people that around North, where Zach and I went to school, it's where there was college here in Aberdeen, one of the famous coaches from here, one of his sayings was leave every place better than where you found it. So being involved in your community and doing things that can help make your community

better for the people around you it doesn't as long as it's not hurting you i don't see why you no i i agree i was on the um the board of directors for a couple years of a local charity after that i moved a bit into a politics and then i fucked off and disappeared from all community life um there's a story have you ever heard the story of the starfish on the beach yeah yeah that one i've always held that one close to me and Keith, have you ever heard that story? I believe we've hit on it. Yeah.

So that one is something that somebody said to me that I've always held close. And that is why I volunteer for the school that my kids are at, things like that. Because like, am I going to change the world? No. But can I make this one kid not be hungry for a day? Can I make this one kid feel better about themselves for the day?

Can I do that one thing for that one kid? That matters? That's my perspective on that one. so anyway we have this game we like to play oh yeah which is uh you sent me a video and i'm so happy i got to see it in advance but apparently there's a version of it with music i just not know that yeah so in the notes here there's a video of you falling in the snow which is a great video like you just ate shit and the dog rate like the dog just barks at

the exact time you hit the ground it's the perfect video but somebody put we will rock you over that? Oh, I bet I know who it was. Yeah, I'll post that on the Instagram after your episode drops. Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah, because it's just funny. You're straight up and then you're not.

Like, it was family guy style. You went from straight up to down in second. That hyena noise that you hear at the end was my wife laughing at me before she was. No, I thought that was the dog barking right of this. No, the dog is in the video right there. As soon as I was reading the notes, I sent him a message, and I'm like, hey, you're ready for tonight?

He's like, yeah, I think so. Like, I got everything ready. And I was like, cool, cool, cool. Send me that video. It's like the three times we've talked in years. Cool, cool, cool. Just send me that video, please, if you don't mind. Oh, geez.

Do you still have that Dolphins hat you would never take off as a kid? I still have it somewhere. Oh, cool. Does it still smell terrible? No. So my mom. I'm going to take it off and wash it in the washing machine while I was sleeping and put it back on my head before it. I don't think I took it off.

I think I wore it for probably two years straight. And we mean like two years straight. Yeah. Yeah. Bedtime, bath time, playtime. As far as I know. Yeah. That's what she says.

Oh, I had to wait till he was sound asleep to take it off and wash it before he woke up in the morning. She said. that's hilarious oh geez okay got the falling in the snow thing I really wanted to talk about that one that is funny

I gotta see that video I think I missed that one I haven't tell me about Jello shots I'm trying I'm guessing this was my wife that put this

but I think that I'm trying to who put this all right but you'll know tomorrow when I send you the link, but it's too much

of the pain to go back and try to figure out it out right now. I'm guessing if this is my wife the first time that we ever hung out together. The rest of the story is about a kegstand, so it can like, in reference, so it would be someone that know that you did a kegstand on your 30th

birthday. I don't even know. I don't even remember there being jealous shots there. I remember it might be two separate stories, but it's the same paragraph. Yeah, it's somebody that you went to school with. Hold on. Let me look up, see who that was. Fuck me. There's a lot of notes.

There's a lot of stories that involve alcohol that I don't exactly remember the... Shocking. Shocking. Yeah, it pretty much just says he might hate jello shots. I had made too many and kept forcing my friends to take them while our law school group was in Sioux Falls for the

Barrister's ball. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, the first... It was like the first time I ever hung out with my wife, well, the woman who's now my wife, our friend that introduced us made way too many jello shots and just kept handing them out. And somehow I kept getting tequila ones, like, every time. I had to take, like, seven tequila shots.

And it was not a fun night. And jello shots, they hit so wrong. Yeah, like the first couple are like, okay, that's enough. Yeah. And then your stomach gets a hold of them, and it's like, oh, good food. Oh no, this is not food No

Oh, geez Okay, so that's that one You didn't do a cake stand until what age? I didn't do a cake stand until it was 30 And how did it feel at 30 Because like I haven't done one since I was 21 I mean doing it felt kind of fun The morning after didn't feel like a great

Yeah Yeah, we, I think we got a keg, and I think we definitely overestimated how much beer is in a keg, underestimated how much beer is in a keg. Because, I don't know if you guys know who, if Misi's in the crew or not, but he was one of the guys that's in, he was in one of the strong man competitions, and he's one of the biggest, strongest dudes ever met in my life. I've seen this dude put down 40 a 40 like it was nothing. And even he couldn't finish this keg with us. I love that that was the feat of strength.

This guy is super, super strong. He does strong man. And then he put a 40 down really quick once. I don't know that that was a feat of strength, but it was pretty impressed. That was just the way you had set it up. And then the delivery, it was like it was all about the drinky to just make me chuckle. They say Andre the Giant used to drink a case of wine a day, right? stack them five high and

that's my funniest story you did mention earlier that you like between mustard and hot sauce so what's the hottest thing you ate and how stupid was it? I ate the Carolina Reaper Pepper once the campus cop at Northern actually

grew them in his garden for the sole purpose of giving them to people because he thought it was funny. Oh, that's Cruel. So my roommate and I both ate one. I was smart enough to go get like milk and ice cream

to like trying to like drown out the heat. And he was looked at me like, no, you're an idiot for that. Like you're not going to want anything in your stomach. I'm like, oh, actually I think it's the exact opposite of that.

So we did that. and honestly the first couple hours are rough but what you don't anticipate is the like day and a half after as like the seeds work their way through so it's like just got issues for days didn't cut it you just ate

I have the picture still we we just bit into them and it was a horrendous experience it was one of probably one of the dumbest things I've ever done in my life yeah I would even do that. And I've done the one chip challenge. I have not done that yet. I would do it again. I would just make sure I had Pepto-Bismol this time. Because I was okay until about midnight that night. And then, yeah,

I woke up with the worst pain. I had to work the next day, but there was no way I was sleeping. Everything's closed. I was out of Pepto. Nothing was making me feel better. But if I had pepto. I was like, yeah, I'd do that again. Like, it was hot, but it was not a raw Carolina reefer pepper. It was a bad day. Yeah, a bad couple of days, I can imagine. It was rough. And we did it on a Thursday, and I still felt it in my stomach on Saturday. Yep. That's, yeah, that's the hot snakes coming out. Oh, yeah. I had the, uh, probably the best sushi in my life last week and I'm so excited that I found a place like the

this I completely unrelated with food related whatever again I'll take a 90 second little story like it was a the roll it was a salmon roll and it was so weird like it was almost like flate it was obviously raw it was moist and flaky at the same time I don't know how they made that happen but it was like the perfect amount of texture

like inside of the salmon itself it wasn't like the rice wasn't flaky necessarily like the flavor the texture of the raw sushi was like flay, like, crispy almost. It's very intriguing. I've never had that.

Usually it's just like a gushy piece of fish. So I'd have to go back and get that again just for the sheer difference of, I've never had it like that. It was fucking awesome. Did you put the spicy guac on? Did this spicy mayo, but no spicy guac. I'm not big gracing over here. Oh, good, guacamole. I'll put this on my sushi for some reason.

Isn't that guacamole? It's guacamole. Guacamole. all right you want to get in some games absolutely so I got a little FMK for you here Big Jory so anyone listening

along we got a game called Fuck Mary Kill and Big Jory has to F one of these marry one of these and kill one of these I'm gonna go with verbatim the one that your buddy Zach submitted because it was the only one out of everything submitted that was actually like three independent answer well actually I lie there was a few other ones but

you know this one will probably be the most funny so FMK Destroying the bathroom at Massonomics gym, right before Big Zach takes a shower. FMK. Also, helping old people get around block websites at the library. And lastly, working in a set with a lift hopper. So, recap, destroying the bathroom before one of your best friends takes a shower at the gym,

helping old people get around block websites at the library, probably some porn-related access. and then having to work in with someone that's hopping around the gym. We need to stop telling people everything that happens to me at work. It's funny, no, because that's why we like the podcast because we get to laugh with you, not at you. So, I would definitely

kill lift hopping. I think circuit training, if you set it up and you're isolated in a certain area is a great idea. But I think doing it in a like gym setting is like one of the least like the lowest forms of gym etiquette that you can do so I don't want you to name anybody but like okay so like at least 50% the people listen to this podcast has been inside of massonomics gym and understands the flow

of the gym so give me an example of what this asshole is doing so we're talking two to three benches Smith machine and the cable and this is one individual not someone like trying to coach like six clients or under the table or something. Yeah, one guy. That's fucking obnoxion. Does he wear gloves? No, he does not wear gloves. Okay, because when I was going to a commercial gym,

there was always the guy with the gloves who had four or five machines set, and one of them was always in the only rack. And he's like, I'm just doing pull-ups. You go ahead and work in. And I was like, I can't squat with you pulling up in front of me, and I'm also not waiting for you to finish your circuit. Like, get out of my way.

fingerless glove dude I don't know I feel like especially at a place like Massonomics where we have like so like we have a lot of nice equipment we like we have certain stuff

that's definitely nicer than the other stuff like the ghost rack is definitely my preferred rack so if somebody else is in that but they're not actually like actively doing sets in it it just really makes fun of it

and like tricep dips on the side of it and for like for an hour I'm like you motherfucker um So we're going to kill that. What? You said you're going to kill that. I'm definitely going to marry blowing off the bathroom before Zach takes a shower.

That's one of those things that I literally don't do on purpose. Sure. It's just like the Massanomics bathroom in general is just, I know you guys have heard stories of the bathroom at the gym. It's just. Yeah, stop, stop bringing the flusher handle, Jory. I don't even know how that happens I thought I thought I broke it

so I've broken a couple things at the gym like nothing major but like I I have always messaged Tanner like right away and been like hey what do I owe you for this because I feel bad but I told him I was like I think the plusher handle's broken he's like no it's been broken for a couple days now

that's just one of the things that happens when you lift in the mornings. I don't, I can't control it. So. Oh, yeah. I feel that. So, uh, that. Uh, and I can, I guess I have to F, uh, so the story is actually even weirder than what Zach put down. So the gentleman that in this story, uh, was, uh, this is about the library story, not the, not, not the shower. Okay.

I don't mind hearing weird shower stories, but he's usually playing a fire to one weird gym, weird library stories instead. Was a physically handicapped and in a wheelchair and was in a one of our study rooms in the back end of the library and asked if he could get her on the, he understood why we had to have child blocks on certain websites because kids have access to these technology,

but he's clearly over 18, so could I turn those off for him? And I had to very awkwardly explain to him that, no, you probably shouldn't be watching those videos in public anyways. So you knew what the videos were? Like, it was showing you. I saw what website he was trying to pull up, yeah. He was trying to go to Pornhub.

It was an orange and black website featured some of our past friends and guests. some of your former guests are very familiar with the website he was trying to. All right. I wouldn't do. Yes, I'm going to do a Mount Rushmore. Do it up. You're Mount Rushmore of cult classic movies.

So I think Super Troopers definitely has to be up there. Can confirm. Let's see what else? if we're going cult class I for some reason love the movie employee of the month with Dane Cook I have no idea why yeah I hate that guy

so that's so wild he's not like a good person and it's not even that good of a movie but I will literally watch it like any time that it's on interesting um clerks too

yep definitely up there and I got one more I'm blanking on him right now. Because to me, they're not like that weird, but to like everybody else they're I can't think of a fourth one

right now. Idiocracy? Oh, yes. Definitely. Idiocracy. I have, every time my wife and I walk into

Costco together, I look at her. Welcome to Costco. I love you. Welcome to Costco. I love you. And she doesn't get it because like 90% of the population has never seen that movie. Yeah. But it's such an amazing movie.

And I kind of guessed that would be it because, like, I saw the stream coming of the, of the movies you were naming. So I was like, yeah, this is probably going to be it. And it's like one of those, if you've seen the movie, you've memorized it. Oh, yeah. Yep. I saw somebody in a Rondo the Thirst Meulator t-shirt the other day, and it was really amazing. I was drinking my electrolytes the other day.

I turned to Morgan and I was like they're putting the brondo on the plants and that's why nothing will grow and she's like what are you talking about and I was like yeah you'll never get it just know that random is what plants crave

I don't know how to explain this to you but you know they're making a Super Troopers 3 I did see that I saw that yeah I'm excited I loved Super Troopers too I thought they did a really good job of referencing the old movie without rehashing the jokes or recycling them. Plus it was in Canada, so.

Yeah, yeah, that, well, was it? I thought that was disputed land. Oh, it was disputed land. I actually saw, I remember which two it were. I think was Farva and the mustache. I don't remember who the fuck it was. We're all mustache guys. I know, it was the one

that was naked all the time, the shorter guy, I think. The one of the bears. The one of the bears yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw him and Farva, I want to say, at like a comedy show like 2019 maybe maybe 2018 whenever whenever they were they were because we honestly i don't think we've gone to a like we haven't i feel bad we have not gone back to the comedy club since covid it was just like just haven't basically i don't know the wife doesn't like going out to do shit half the time anyway so that was like a pastime we did years ago

but uh yeah so saw those guys live was pretty interesting and like oh i've watched these fuckers in a movie and they're like eight feet away from me all right uh anything else you want to hit for we get into our next game there guys not for me nor right big jury do you want to explain to your friends and family what the next game is unpaid or underrated and you know what that's all about are you familiar you comfortable enough telling people how to play i'll give it a shot just do uh so um uh unpaid unpaid underrated underrated is a completely uh independent game it's copied by the folks over at massonomics doing uh underrated overrated with uh but it's just a little bit off. So if something is underrated, it'll be unpaid. If it's overrated, it'll be I messed that up. It's not good. Save me, Keith. Save me. Unpaid or underrated. Unpaid is the equivalent to overrated because no one wants to be unpaid and underrated, you know, you kind of get it underrated. It's awesome. So big jury, we're both going to hit you with three or four of these

hands selected just for you topics. Unpaid or underrated. the website slash app good reads i think the website and app of good reads is completely underrated i actually use it a lot for my job just because i have a lot of people on there that are have different reading styles than i do so i can see what they're reading and how and then i can base what they're reviewing is good and I can look at other books that are like that. It helps me with choosing books for people who have similar reading styles

and helps with what we do called Reader's Advisory. So if you're not, if you're a reader and you're not on Goodreads, it's basically social media for book nerds. And like IMBD as well too. It's all about rating and archiving what you've read. So it's like,

oh, have I read this book? I don't fucking remember. Oh, my app told me I read it in 2014. Yeah. If you're not on there, it's definitely worth the ad. 100%. I'm two books away from hitting 500, like Lifetime Red Books. So I'm, uh, hopefully, I hopefully I can actually, I should race the sisters to 500 to see if I can hit 500, uh, red books before they hit 500 episodes.

So I'm, I think I'm about to finish a book and then I'll have to basically knock one out next month and I'll beat them. So we'll see. Good answer. Unpaid or, uh, yeah, very, very underrated that is. Um, next here. unpaid or underrated NCAA football

I haven't gotten a new one yet I'm assuming it's the game even though I think the game is technically called college football I don't even think it's NCAA football anymore but regardless I'm assuming it's the video I don't know take it if we're talking the video game it depends on the year if we're talking just college football all time all all all time video the act of playing college football on a video game system

I would go underrated. It was my favorite game. I've always loved college football way more than I love NFL football. I just think the pageantry and everything that comes with college is just so much higher than professional. So I'm going to go underrated on that. Nice. Unpaid or underrated DC movies. Unpaid.

I am very much. more in favor of Marvel I just feel like all of the DC movies I haven't gotten to watch the new one with James Gunn yet but they just try so hard to like if we know that they're superheroes like the one in Wonder Woman where she like does a backflip over like three tanks and I'm just like we know that she's a superhero like you don't have to have these dramatic scenes where she does like these incredible things like just have her do superhero stuff and make it fun. The new Superman was good.

Yeah, it wasn't bad at all. The same vein then, so as a side note to that, what about DC shows? Because there's, you know, I don't know, if you're a TV guy, there's a lot more DC shows, probably than Marvel shows out there. So it's got to be this one gym in there that you enjoyed. Or you just, you're just watching, like, Justice League and, like,

all those different ones that they had because I feel like for a long time they did a lot better job like marketing their stuff and getting their stuff out there with the Batman shows and Justice League and all of that stuff they were just so much more out there

than Marvel was for a long time so growing up it was a lot of like the DC stuff but now that I'm an adult is definitely on the Marvel side of that so you never got it into into the flag or Arrow or Gotham or anything like that. Can we just for a second recognize Smallville? Yeah, that was good.

Smallville was incredible. The Superman and Lois was, I mean, like Smallville was, I did watch it, but I wasn't, I watched it more in syndication after it was probably over, but it was still like right around that time frame. But like one of my best friends, like love Smallville. But I really liked the Superman show that just wrapped up to. My old roommate watched Gotham the whole way through. My wife and I just watch the Penguin series on HBO Mac.

Oh, hell, yeah. I forgot about that for a second. Yeah, that's incredible. That might actually be the best DC show just because it was done by HBO and I had the biggest budget. I didn't super love that version of Batman, but I really did like the Penguin. Mm-hmm. I did like that version of Batman. Did you?

Yeah, I think I've watched the movie three times. I've seen it once and a half. Well, because it's finally Batman as a detective. Mm-hmm. So there's... Can I nerd out for a second? Yeah. Okay.

So all the old movies that everybody says is the best is the Michael Keaton movies. And I actually argue they're the worst. I think that was the worst costume, the worst acting. Michael Keaton's 5'5. He's not a good Batman. And also, like I've said before, on this show, He's the same guy in and outside the costume. So, like, Batman would never do that.

And then you get into the Joel Schumacher era after Tim Burton left, and you've got your George Clooney and your Val Kilmer. And they're so cartoony and they're so silly. DMX is in it for some reason. Like, it's just so, like, it just didn't. But the problem was those movies were never about Batman. Those movies were always about the villain. Right.

The focus was on the villains and how Batman would stop them. Then Batman Begins happens. And Batman begins happens. And it's the first movie about Batman. It's his story. It's him becoming who he is. It's focus is on him. And then obviously you have the other Chris Nolan, the three movies, which are probably

some of the best Batman movies that ever happened. But they were action movies. You forgot that. Batman was a detective first so then the new one comes out and I can't remember the director's name which is probably on me but Robert Patton saying everybody was like

oh the guy from twilight the guy from twilight but they all said that they all said that 15 years ago get off the time like but they all said that about Heath Ledger as the Joker he can't be a Joker he's Heath Ledger he's a pretty boy blah blah blah and now like every douchebag

and the worst guy you know dresses up as him for Halloween every year since and uh So my argument here is that, like, you finally have a Batman movie where it's not an action movie. It's a noir detective movie. I do think it was too long. I do think cat- Yeah, I think Catwoman being in it was pointless.

You know, I think she was fine as Catwoman, but I don't think she actually contributed much to the movie other than being a bridging aspect where she was in danger and he had to help. so like there was that aspect of it I didn't like but I do think like if you look at the first half of that movie where you know he's just investigating the murders and that's the intro where they talk about um he's just a symbol and he could be anywhere at any time and you see people like afraid to do crime because he could be there that's awesome right they did that once for like a scene and it was like less than five seconds in Batman begins with like no no I'm sorry it was in the dark night where he's like no no not tonight he's out here and that was it

but in that movie it was like the entire first opening scene was people being afraid he could be there but again I'm a Batman nerd as you can probably tell sorry I'll give you back your game that was my argument for the Robert Pattinson movie

did you watch the uh oh no i was up anyway but there was uh fuck it was it was last year it was like it was a spinoff of like a batman so it was like um i had to look it up and out it was really bad i think it was a fuck anyway i'll look it up later into the two because i could actually talk about that because you know it was like the worst batman i think i've ever seen but uh yeah no i think i'm good that was all three of mine so you're good you're up yep unpaid or unpaid or underrated light beer um I think it depends on the light beer I

So like everybody loves ultras What are they right man And I Think they are absolutely unpaid Like I do not like them at all Night guys My

My identity is tied to my beer Not really I still need to try the NA version of it Just to have I drink Miller I do do a lot of craft beer, but my main

go-to for just like a light beer is like a Miller light or a mud light or something like that. Yeah, my go-to is Miller Light, if I want light beer. We have one up here called Cracked Canoe, and it's a three and a half percent.

And that dude, you can, you could do a two-four in a day. Like, if you're camping and you wake up in the morning, you have your breakfast, and you're like, I'd have a beer, you could crush it. two, four of the three and a half, easy. I mean, I could back when I was young. Now I'm like six in and I'm like, I'm tired.

I got a beer over the summer and I didn't realize before I opened it that it was like eight and a half percent. Oh, no. I was like halfway in it was like, this feels really heavy. Yeah. Those eight and a half, like anything between seven and nine, I'll have one and then I'll have a nap and then wake up refreshed. And I'll be like, okay, I'm sober again.

But like, it will put me out so fast. That's the, my wife always will be like, uh-huh, you're starting with one of those. And I was like, well, it's a new one. Look at the cool can. Then I'll have one and just be like one eye in it for like an hour and then be fine. Unpaid or underrated shitting during a workout. I think so if I'm doing squats, it's definitely unpaid because I feel like I lose my rhythm,

but it's one of those things that I don't want to. And with knee sleeves, it's like the worst. You don't want to risk it. You don't want to risk it. Yeah. That sucks. I say it's definitely unpaid.

It's just it throws your whole rhythm off. It's not. Yeah. You get through your warm up. You're almost at your top set. And then you're like, I don't know if this is going to go well. Yeah.

I've had ones where I'm just about to walk on. of the bar and my stomach starts gurgling. I'm like, this is definitely not going to go well. I can sense when I get to the bottom of this squat. There's going to be some questions I have to figure out very quick. I do want to interrupt briefly for a little suggestion for Tanner. So like, that, like, does the vent fan in there run 24-7 or is only going with a light in the back? Yeah, so like they need to, he should have it to where like the light's always on then maybe.

But also, like, uh, if there's an outlet in there, have them buy. Tanner, so I highly suggest getting a get like a small room purifier and just leave it running 24-7 in the shitter just to help because it's there's some like when people like just being there

hanging out at the gym like there was like three people took a shit and like that whole room smelled like shit the entire time we were in there just a little room purifier as a well with the fan maybe might help with that

I mean it's like less than $100 to buy one my guy puts a toilet in his gym for the first time and now he's an expert no so we don't have a I don't, my bathroom upstairs doesn't have a vent fan. It just has a window and like, not, not, you open a window.

It only does so much. So we literally run a air purifier in the bathroom, A, to help with, uh, the humidity when we're taking showers. It just kind of helps move the air around it also, but like crank that thing up after you take a big nasty deuce and like, it doesn't smell. So who changes that filter? Who changes the do-do filter? It's all, it's actually, it's a, uh, it's just one you can, like, just wash.

So I haven't, I haven't even looked at it since we put it in there like six months ago. Oh, yeah. but it's not it's not like a paper filter it's like I think it's got like a foam thing but I think it's just got more cat hair and I might have cleaned it once but oh that thing's gonna be full of particles the way that the house doesn't smell as shitty so yeah you know I don't do do with that as you see fit Tanner do do do with that as you see fit uh nobody wants to smell shit unpaid or underrated I got to ask because I think we might be on the level with this one hoodies how many do you have

Hoodies. I don't have as many hoodies as I do hats. I probably have 15 or so hoodies. Yeah, me too. You just, it's always cold here, like nine months out of the year, so you have to have. I'm always one of those people if I can put on more layers and,

as I hate being cold, but I don't want to go upstairs and turn the heat up. But I've, like hoodies are just so convenient they if you're it's raining you can put your hood off you have a little place to put your hands to keep them warm it's it's really the perfect piece of clothing in my opinion i agree do you have how many zip-ups any or you'll pull over again i don't do a lot of zip-ups i just kind of prefer the full i guess uh i yeah i will not do a crew neck at all no i can't handle crew necks no Those are literally garbage. I don't understand. They're becoming so popular and I don't understand. Dush bags.

Jesus. Our company bought those. They bought like really expensive car at ones last year with like the three-quarter zip thing. And I'm just like, like, no. No. Zippers just going to rip into my neck and pull my beard. Never wear this. I was just like, I think I gave it to one of the other guys at work there and he doesn't wear it either.

I'm just like, that's just stupid. Yeah. So the reason I ask is because you've hinted several times about. hood hoodies and I also drive my wife insane with the amount of hoodies I own. And then I get really mad when I can't find one specific one. Yeah. So there's like, there's probably 10 hanging on the door behind me, three hanging off the bed here. And then I have a whole coat rack of them.

And it's always like, I'll just walk out and I'll be like, where is this one particular hoodie? And she's like, buddy, you have six or seven black hoodies just wear one of those. And I was like, no, I want the one that I got at this place at this time that says this. And I need to have that one. So I'm God, no, I'm not the only one that has an addiction to hoodies. Because the moment it even, the temperature even goes slightly chilly. I'm just like, yeah, buddy, hoodie season.

Let's get it. All right. I think you passed unpaid and underrated. You did. Well, do you have anything you want to throw our way there, big jury? I got a few questions for you. So you guys are both home gym guys. What was the deciding factor if you decided to put in a home gem instead of going to a commercial gym?

For me, I kind of started slow. I found a really good deal on like, I don't know, I bought like a whole rack of dumbbells for like 30 cents a pound or something. Maybe maybe I might have a 50 cents a pound, but whatever was. And then so kind of started with that. And then, really, when I went from a job where I was home at 4.30 every day to a job that I might get home at 7 or 8 o'clock at night, I was like, well, I'm not fucking going, I'm not driving then a half hour to go to the gym. So, and at that point, I've already kind of transitioned into squat bench deadlift and was doing some more powerlifting type stuff. And I was like, I could, I can do at least one workout a week at home. I only need to squat rack and a fucking barbell and like, you know, 300 pounds of plates.

And I can literally do at least one workout at home. And that saves me hours. And then that just morphed into it. So mainly the time saving to begin with. Like if there was like one thing, was just not having to leave the house after being out of the house all day for work. I've told this story before.

I was going to two separate gyms. I was going to the boutique gym here in eight minutes down the road from me. But it was what I described as an old person. Okay, there was no proper bars. There was no, there was a ton of machines. They did have that really cool farmers walk uphill machine that I used a lot

and they had a rope puller that I really enjoyed but you could only squat or deadlift in one of those ones that has like the moving back and forth bar right so it was technically a machine but it was the closest I could get because then I found out that in the city

where Big Steve my friend in the city lives right around the corner from him they had an actual deadlift platform and like proper power bars and they were only like 10 Canadian dollars a month if you signed up for the full year up front. So one day a week I would go there for deadlifts and then I would do everything else because squatting in the machine didn't bother me that much.

I would do everything else at the boutique gym. And then one day because the gym in the city has auxiliary gyms all over Canada, I went to one of them and they also had deadlift platform. And I got in there and filled up my bottle because they didn't have a, I had to buy a water bottle because they don't have water. fill stations or whatever and on my way to the deadlift platform which i see is empty this young guy is just a little faster than me and he gets to the deadlift platform to do fucking shrugs on a deadlift platform yep there's three machines there's dumbbells free nope he's going to take the

deadlift platform set up a rack or a small rack or whatever he did so he could do shrugs with the barbell on the deadlift platform and I got so mad that I went and bought a barbell and I built my first deadlift platform in my driveway which was a gravel driveway and I had a small block of wood to stand on and two small blocks of wood to put my weights on and that barbell lived outside for a year covered in a tarp and I would go out there and just use the plates as I needed them and that is actually how the pit started, which was how I started my home gym. And then from there, that was about a year before COVID. The place I got that, because I went to the place to buy just something like whatever I can do at home, like some kettlebells. And I was like, oh, barbells are

too expensive. And she's like, I have a $100 barbell. And then I go in the one day and she's like, well, I got a $350 half rack. And I was like, I could do that. Right? And then that's when I started moving the gym into the basement. You know, my dad cleared out a bunch of room and stuff like that. But that essentially was it. Was that young kid doing shrugs on the deadlift platform drove me right out of any commercial gym in the world? Because I was just like, that's so, like, I would ban you.

If I owned the gym and I saw that, I would walk up and be like, get out. Like, you get out for a week. I'd be so mad if I saw somebody doing that. So that's what started my home gym tour. Is there a piece of a question? that you guys think that a lot of people don't realize that they should get early on in their home gym experience that you think that you have either you have in your gym or that you think that everyone should have a know if they're doing a home gym

hmm I mean I don't know uh an underrated item I'd feel is a deadlift jack a full size deadlift jack but that's coming for me who have like people over and like being able to go. And I've worked out multiple different places with like in group settings. So if you have like four people deadlifting and you're going from like 225 to like 600 pounds like a full size deadlift jack is fucking awesome. If you're just by yourself, maybe not as much of a priority, you know, throw the, throw the five pound plate under there, you know, whatever. But I feel like a deadlift jack is like top 10 items I would have in a gym for sure. But like, you know, top three or four, obviously is going to be a, you know, a bar plates. a rack, a bench, and then I always tell people some kind of pull down and then a like extension lake curl or the first two machines I'd get personally. I had a half jack for years. And once I started lifting over three plates,

the half jack wasn't cutting it. And I had to go to a full jack. And it was a hundred bucks from bells of steel. Not the cheapest thing, but honestly, like, the half jack wasn't cutting it once you'd get to four plates. it becomes an extra lift at that point. So I was like, no, I can't keep doing that. I might agree with that.

I probably, like, I would ask you what your goals are. Right? To wear hoodies. To wear hoodies. I do think a drink spotter is very important. And that's not just a plug. I still think it's the best thing I ever put in my gym. It really is.

Like everything goes in there. The magnetic ones, for sure. well the drink spotter light for sure but like any drink spotter my drink goes in there my phone goes in there my ammonia goes in there like it just keeps everything off the floor that I used to just keep on the floor I would say if you're looking at strength building equipment you need a sandbag at some point I I not one for Keith to break but like like you find your find your ultimate whether it's you know 50 to 150 pounds whatever it is I think you need I think you need a sandbag

just to work that different version of lifting than a barbed ball can do for you. They're fun. They are fun. Uh, Jory,

question for you. So Tanner recently traded away the, uh, fucking the deadlift jack from, uh,

the, uh, the full-sized clever jack that, um, you know, he was all excited to get last year at home, JimCon and he had Steve,

like, send it to him in it. I didn't even think it was an item on his website anymore because he had already kind of been in talks with the rep but uh that deadlift jack is now gone did he replace with anything else or was the two the couple that he already had plenty and did you guys not like i have heard a lot of negative things about that jack so what were your opinions on it and yeah yeah it seemed like it was unstable as fuck it was not stable it didn't it was didn't feel especially once you got into like

the heavier if you were down like just doing warm-ups it was fine but once you got up to your tops that it just didn't really stay with you like you had to put a lot like the i used the bells of steel one earlier so you can like with that clever jack you had to put a lot more into it to get it to come up the other jacks that we've had so we just have the two right now as far as i know i know sometimes he kind of puts things off to the side but i think we just have the two right now I prefer the bells of steel one personally, but Oh, over, was he have a Titan or a Rogue for the second one? I think it's a Rogue.

Okay. Because the Bells of Steel is a little, it's a fair amount lighter because the shaft on the handle itself is like one inch tube versus like two or three inch tube, like the Titan slash Rogue, which are the same ones, basically. Yeah. So I do like some Deadlift Jack talk. Is there a lift that you refuse to program? that other people like or one that you like that other people hate.

Oh, I'll go first, front squats, fuck them. Nope, ain't doing them. I'll do anything else but I'll do sandbag squads, I'll do SSB squads.

I just cannot, I can't do them without either hurting my hands or hurting my throat. I just cannot figure that out. And I know I'm going to get inundated with hacks or whatever because I said that.

Nope, I'm just not going to do them. It's not coming up. I'll do sandbag squats first before I'll do a front squat. Fuck those. Good for you if you can do them. I know how beneficial they are. I can see all the benefits.

I appreciate them. I'm just never going to do them. It's just not coming up. I was doing great with front squats there. Like, I was getting my front rack under control. And then I had a really medium weight, but, like, fucking, like, set of, like, eight or nine reps on, and I was adamant that I wanted to go front rack position,

and I fuck something up in my tricep and my bicep and my forearm and my elbow, my inner elbow, it's been like a month and it's, I'm still like I'm just now getting a little bit of relief, but that's mainly because I've been actually doing like my physical therapy exercises and got a deep tissue massage the other day. But I don't know, what was the, uh, so my answer historically is fuck biceps. I hate biceps. But after after this last scare, I need to start fucking doing biceps solely for the preventative injury aspect of it. Not that I give a fuck about what my arms look like. I need my arms to be durable, not necessarily muscular. So I'm going to do more bicep work, but a lot of it's just going to be more like physical therapy, more than any physical therapy, like lightweights and like low extent, slow eccentrics and all that. But yeah, that's what I got to work on.

Okay. I never did front squats really until Tanner got the transformer bar. And now I will do them with that bar, but I hated that feeling of holding the bar. here and squatting it didn't like it we'll do crisscross no that hurts my thumbs we'll do overhand no my arms won't let me we'll use the straps no that hurts my throat like it just there's every single I didn't like the straps I tried that and yeah didn't though yeah the one that I refuse to program I refuse to program good mornings I think they're the dumb exercise largely because like

when you get down to here if you get to that point where it's like this ain't coming up there's not a whole lot of places for that bar to go. Yeah. And I don't think it's, I don't think the risk to your neck and head is worth the. I don't think I've done a good morning in like eight years. I think I've done them like I've done them very few times in my life. But like the motion like an in like a non-weighted motion of a good morning is a nice little stretch and like kind of works the glitz and hamstrings.

But I don't necessarily want to put 300 pounds in my back and try to see if I can just like stand back up with it. I'll do already. yells before i'll do a good morning every time i do r dales for a week yeah yeah speaking of that i do bicep curls twice a week yeah i need to start doing them yeah i don't i don't like them and i don't really like i don't have big biceps or anything like i'm not fucking jacked or anything but like yeah yeah jen either yeah for the things i want to do nice for the things i want to do i don't mind i have that i have the arnold thing where you put it around your neck and it goes across your chest.

Oh, the arm blaster. I have one of those. But it makes me feel really fat. So I don't like using it because it sits right above my beer gut. And I'm just like, oh, that's all I can see right now. Strict curls are fun. Do you ever do strict curls?

Up against the wall. Yeah, you just put your back on the wall. The competition numbers of like people doing like 300 pounds or whatever the fuck the number is. Like something obnoxious. It's like wild. Yeah, I'm never going to do that, but, like, I will, I will, or I'll even just put my back against the, um, against the barbell on the rack, because it's usually right after I've done bench. And I don't mind doing that because it stops you from rocking during them.

Yeah, taking body English out, just actually see what, you know, and isolate the movement down to where it's not a full body movement at that point. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. When I first got into power lifting, it was like a very small federation and they, they would always do a strict curl as well. I think they did it maybe before deadlifts. It was like a brief intermission Or maybe it was, I don't remember where they did It might have been before or after

But somewhere during they did like a like a 10-15 minute Fucking strict curl competition And it was always so strange Because I was like I just thought that was normal And then I got into like bigger federations I'm like oh yeah they're not strict curl in here Did they use easy curl bars? I think it yeah

It wasn't a straight bar Was it would have been yeah We found the reason the fairy shows up And drops off your easy curl bar It's so you can do strict curls the WPPL actually does has a strict girl portion that makes sense and they also have a body weight bench press well yeah that's I thought that

so since you guys are not from here how would you how do you describe massonomics to a total stranger the like the the the whole thing like Yeah, the whole thing. It just, it depends on who I'm talking. Well, if it's someone I don't feel is really worth my effort, it's very brief. It's, oh, it's just, it's just my buddy's a lift online to get together. If it's, if it's, like, I've tried to explain it to other people.

And it's like, it's really hard because there's so many layers, especially, it's different with Joey and I because we literally host a podcast, too. And that's confusing. So if you even took that, so if you even, so go back to like 20, early 20, 23 before we started the podcast, even that, even that, was still like, yeah, I listen to this podcast every week. I'm on a Discord. You're afraid to tell someone, like, you're afraid to tell your friends and family that you pay strangers $3 a month to be in this group circle thing.

And it's like, it's such an awkward thing. But like, I'm kind of glad everything kind of came to a head at once. Like, we started doing in-person meetups. We started a podcast. So then it became like, I was getting a lot more out of it personally. So it was just like, I don't know. I feel like you get out of Masonomics. what you put into Masonomics, you know,

and massonomics is literally, it's like 20 things, which is awesome. It's not just a podcast. It's not just Tommy and Tanner. It's like, it's 700 of us plus all the other shit that they do, you know, all those little things. I usually just say it's a podcast that is loosely about lifting, and they have a following of almost 600 people,

and we just really don't want to take anything too seriously. And we all get along for that reason. I don't go into the cult I don't go into the the monthly donation or anything like that I just go like honestly what did the

what did the one guy say I love that he said it it was like we take lifting seriously but not ourselves right and it's like yeah I found a group of people

because anybody that knows me knows I hate hyper masculine fucking in that type of stuff. Yeah. So I'm just like, yeah, it's the opposite of that.

It's just a bunch of people. I actually usually describe the Discord as imagine 600 people who like to lift and make each other laugh. And that's all we do. Our goal is to make each other laugh. That is what that Discord is. And it's wild and it's fun.

And, oh, geez, I wish I could get in. I saw a guy today wearing a shirt. That said, wolves not sheep. He's a badass. Oh, and Caddy James. He protects his family. Like, Caddy Joey came out again, right? Like, in my head.

I didn't say anything. But I was just like, yeah, dude, I get it. You're mean to servers. Like, I fucking understand. I know who you are. I bet your kids don't talk to you anymore. Like, I know. I know, dude.

Like, that's who you are. You're so alpha. Yeah. Yeah, it's goofy, it's goofy shit. Anyway. I'm a wolf, not a sheep. Yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I get it. During COVID, you wouldn't wear a mask because, like, you're just fucking mad about something. Like, I get it, dude. Anyway. All right. Last question. What were people's reactions when you told, the first time you told, them you were going to Averty in South Dakota

for vacation. It's like, why? Why? Yeah, really, it was very similar answer, I guess, to the other one. It is, well, honestly, my, like, I've had my parents tell me they're, like, very proud that I found what I found from this

and that, like, we do the podcast and, like, I get so much out of this. And a lot of it, like, I feel like they don't really understand there's a difference between, like, like, they kind of look at it all is the same. Like, like, massonomics, lifting, strong man, power lifting. It's all kind of like the same. Like, you're just doing something as like a 40 year old adult that's like not sitting in your room playing video games. You're actually like, you're going out and being

social. I mean, it's more of the whole like going out to Aberdeen, going to home Jim Con, going to the Arnold. Like, you're putting yourself out there to like, because I've always been a very, like, didn't put myself out there much, most of my life. So it's been one of the best things for me to really just come out of my shell as an, you know, an adult and kind of travel to go see friends, but after putting it in a spreadsheet and seeing how much I've spent in the last two and a half years, there might be less travel for Big Keith or have to be more frugal travel, because I've spent over $10,000 in two and a half years to see you fuckers. I can't do that the next two and a half years.

I need to cut that in half. Wrong again, Keith. Hey, Big Nate AI here. Just wanted to clear up a few things. Using my agentic skills, I reviewed Keith's spreadsheet, and he was dead wrong. After bringing these results to him, he wanted me to inform you all that he has not, in fact, spent $10,000 in traveling to see crew and other related events. He has spent $20,000.

Thank you for your time, and we'll see you on the next mistake. Yeah. See, surprisingly, actually, you know what, surprising nobody, I don't talk about it much outside of like my wife and my parents and my family but sometimes in my

line of work which is soon to be my X line of work we'll talk about it to people because we sell plans that work in both

Canada and the US and because I travel so much to the US I always ask oh would you benefit from a plan that works in both countries and you'll always get the

oh yeah I love it I go to Florida all the time or I go here and I go there and I'm like oh yeah me too like, I have that plan. It makes sense. I'm like, oh, where do you go? And I'm like, South Dakota.

And they'll, like, honestly, you'll just see them go, huh? And I'm like, yep, yep. I go to South Dakota. And they're like, oh, yeah, okay. Like, Sioux Falls or the Black Hills. I'm like, no. I'm going to Aberdeen. And they will go, what is Aberdeen?

And I'm like, yeah, don't. It's just, it's. Have you heard of pheasants? Yeah, it's for weightlifting. And so I'll tell them, I'll be like, it's for weightlifting. And then that just redirects the conversation to like, oh, you lift weights. And I'm like, yeah, sure, let's do that. But like, I don't, yeah, you're right.

Because then suddenly he's going to lead to, well, mass andomics. It is always funny. It's like, my boss thinks I'm like the strongest person he knows. And I'm like, I'm the weakest person in all of my lifting. I am legitimately the oldest, slowest, and weakest person in all of my groups of social lifting friends. but sure I can deadlift 460 pounds I'm stronger than you yes you're correct

yeah well what did Tommy say you are the strongest person to almost everybody you know yeah right yeah if you take out if you eliminate your gym buddies for sure yeah I think

so it's really cool you guys talked about the community so one funny story before we wrap this up is so the week of Let's Hard Live Easy this year The International Oz Convention Yes

Was in Everdeen Yeah Didn't the guy that Right like live there And that's what storybook land is Yeah Al Frank Baum used to live here So

I spent a good chunk of my day at work With the Oz people And it was funny Because they There was this one person Walking around And they had like this giant doll of the patch girl, which is one of

Bond's works, and they're carrying it around, and it was just creepy book and doll. But it's whatever, it was their thing, and then I go to, after that, I go to Tanner's house. I'm standing there talking to

big Chris Hornick and his wife, and I see you walk in with a skeleton with a beard and a Asinomics hat on, and it's big Joe. I was like, oh, So we're all nerds about something just in our own different things. I forget who I asked because I was just like, hey, did I make it into the picture, like the other version of me?

And I think somebody, I think it was Tanner told me no or Nate told me no. But then Ryan found me and you can see the skeleton me in the back sticking up from the top. And I was like, I made it. That's awesome. I think that's on the wall in the gym now. He just added in this week. I mean, you're right. And then, you know, I, Keith talks more about the community that that is everything.

But, like, I will say, like, I almost teared up when I saw that Ryan pulled me out of that suitcase and carried me around and all the kids. And the kids playing with the skeleton of me is probably more realistic than anything else. Because, like, when I was there. sure I was having fun and talking to everybody but if there were kids playing I was with the kids like I you know um Jake's daughter still talks about me because you know like they were all chasing her around and they weren't having any fun and then I was like well why don't I just chase her around for a few minutes because that was more realistic version of me than than if you'd sat me at the bar and or sat me in the middle of everybody talking um but that no that was really cool and you're right that's creepy doll. Everybody's like, why is that creepy doll here? And then you're at another thing, and another creepy doll comes in. And that creepy doll is not even related to Masanomics. That creepy doll is related unpaid and underrated,

which is related to Massonomics. Everything is adjacent to everything. Yeah. Time is the flat table. Before we wrap this up, since you had mentioned Chris Hornick, we had glazed over one of his questions earlier that he submitted. So ask Jory if he's read Worlds in Fargo. I don't think I've ever even heard of. All right.

And then a follow-up question to that was, will it be there on Meet Day? More than likely than that. I think this next week is really going to, I have to deadlift over five and squat over five on back-to-back days. So this next week's really going to be the test of whether I'm not going to be ready for Farco or not. Okay. Can we finally see that dog? I know, right? Does the collar?

Like her. Oh, I thought it was at your leg the whole time. She just was. I got you. Um, she, her mom, my wife's doing something upstairs. Well, we can, we'll go a couple more minutes if she comes back, but, uh, talk briefly here on as we're wrapping up. Just, uh, what's it like being one of the few, what's so there's like 60 gym members, give or take? And there's maybe what, like, less than 10 of you that are crew probably?

like what's that like and have you have you tried to like get any of the other ones to assimilate into the podcast and be crew or anything of that so i'm not super active in the crew uh i check it every so often but like literally like the first week that i was in there i still had notifications on and i could not do that no never do that yeah number one i have yeah number one rule of discord I have a couple channels on, and then I have, like, I have said so, and my name is mentioned anywhere in there. Yeah, that's what I think of me, but, uh, I don't, so, like, because I live at, like, five in the morning. I don't see a whole lot of guys. Uh, Ross, I don't think is going to come, him if he's not, he's out already, I'll think he'll be going to come back. Um, Larry, I don't think understands technology.

no no we've been asked to get larry on like 30 times and i'm like i don't think it like he wouldn't have fun i don't think he'd get it i don't think larry would know how to operate a zoom link honestly yeah well i think like caden said he'd go help him out but like yeah i don't that was like three years ago also but like i i don't know i think if larry wanted to be in the inner circle of massanomics or listen to the podcast he would by now so yeah i i mean i've i definitely talked to some guys about it I think there's a couple of guys that might join, but I think it's definitely worth it. It's like you guys said, it's, it's weird going to, uh,

let's hard or the let's hard, live easy stuff and you don't know anybody. So like the, I didn't meet out in Rapid two years ago. It was after, yeah, it was after Lift Hard Live Easy One. And I saw Chris Hornick's name on the roster for the meeting. I was like, gosh, I know that name. I looked it up. And then we just happened to be behind each other and line to weigh in. And that's how we started, honestly, how we started talking is we were both

Bassonomics guys and we were both in through. So it's cool that this community kind of came out of a couple guys. decide to have a gym and a podcast, so. I feel like Tanner could get more gym members to listen if he wanted to, but it only he wants to like over inundate like the gym with his podcast because like, I feel there's almost like there's very little podcast presence. I mean, even though it's all massonomics,

but it's like not like podcast specific. And I don't think he like, he does not go out of, I'm just assuming he does not go out of his way to like push his podcast onto anyone at the gym whatsoever. So that's probably a reason why a lot of them don't listen to it. So Massonomics is, and I think, Jory, you'll understand this, is actually a vertically integrated conglomerate in the fact that massonomics kind of reigns over the whole thing,

but they do everything, and none of them are the same thing, right? So like you've got your massonomics gym, then you've got your podcast, then you've got your supporting membership, then you've got your fitness apparel, and you've got your fitness equipment. But like you could, those could all live separately from each other, but they're all under that, that, the Massanomics brand. Yeah. That's a marketing phrase, the vertically integrated.

Yeah. It's not horizontally, it's not horizontally integrated. They're definitely vertically integrated where they could exist separately under the one umbrella. I've always been curious because he has. has that Roku down in the basement and it has internet. I've always wondered why he doesn't just put it on

their YouTube channel. I think he's not one to to his own horn in that sense. Which is part of the reason. I mean, would we not like him as much if he did? Like, I don't know. Do people not like us that were always, like, I don't know. Like, I share our podcast on my personal story.

I posted on Facebook every fucking week. Like, I don't know. I'm sure I annoy people with that, but fuck them. But I'm also not like trying to get 60 people to be him money to come to my gym and, like, you know, support my whole, my, my vintage weight addiction like Tanner is. You can't afford to lose members. You might as well be an MLM at that point.

Hey, I know you're a part of the gym, but did you also want to give me money for this other thing? Yeah. And, yeah, no, it's the same thing like, you know, I don't sell phones to my family, right? Like, I don't go to family events and be like, oh, you need a new phone. Come on in. Like, I'll help you out. Like, I don't do that.

Right. They all know what I do. everybody is aware of what I do if you need me you can find right and you know sometimes they all do eventually they'll message me and be like it's time for a new one I'm coming to see you um but like I don't

go to the thing to do it because that's fucking awkward it's weird I don't want to be the guy that walks in the room and everybody's like oh great here he comes he's gonna try to sell me something right so maybe that's what it is tracks but we're glad they do what they do they're good boys um anybody else have anything

for us. Start hitting them with the affiliates and let's wrap this up. No, are. Anything you wanted to let the listeners know, Jory? Any callouts? Do you get any shit talking you want to do? I mean, anybody in your weight class, or you're going to dominate next year at

Liftard Libby as E4? Grace is going to have to put on quite a bit of weight to be in my weight. I'd love to call out Big Bryce just because he he literally finds a way to chip my bench every year

it's not even just to lift hard live easy it's at any meat we ever do we start out around the same weight and then I'll go up and he'll go like

five pounds higher than me it's just like dude every time it's such a dick move it's funny because he's like the nicest guy

but it's just like why every time that is funny all right boys um so you know we have a lot of affiliates here that helped uh get Nate in its speedboat someday and uh you know yeah god damn it now you got me saying you know you fucker you know oh yeah I didn't call you called you on that good I counted it was seven Zach joined I forgot Zach joined at some point that's a first I yeah I saw them in the middle I think there briefly so affiliate links obsidian ammonia uh they have a website for sure still

the Instagram. High dust. I think they have a backup Instagram they're rocking right now while they're trying to get that legal shit figured out. Barbell Rescue. I did get an actual affiliate email

right before we recorded which was probably the first one I've had in a minute. So thank you for someone who bought a Barbell Rescue item. Plate snacks. Lots of people are buying stuff off that. As seen in Ginalee and Jonathan's

gym, they had the nice little plate snacks on their weight stack on their lap pull down, which is pretty cool. And Tanner was talking about how he might need to get that for Massonomics Gym. So they got a plenty of plate weight stacks that would look good with some Massonomics

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somewhere. I'm still waiting for, I saw that they recorded an episode of the OK podcast, but I've yet to see it hit my feed. I want to say those are Friday drops always, regardless of when they record it. So I'm optimistic if I get to listen to that tomorrow. And that wraps that up. Big Jory, one more time.

Where are they going to find you at? On Instagram. at nighttime K-I-N-G-H-T-I-M-E-0-0-0 on Instagram, or I am Big Jory in the Discord. Nice, Big Jory, where you at? Joey underscore M-L-E-C-Z-K-O. That's it, just the Instagrams. Nice.

We have an Instagram, unpaid, underrated podcast, website, Unpaid InternPodcast.com, and head over to YouTube and try to get us some algorithm going over there. I am Keith Honeycutt. You can follow me on Instagram at Keith Honeycutt 73. More importantly, go follow my orange gym

the no wine cellar. Until then, see you next Tuesday. Later, man. I'll see. If you don't come to Crew Falls, I'm going to give you so much shit in the Discord.

Oh, everybody should. Like, what a night ago. I mean, literally three hours away. That means you don't even love your, you don't even love your parents if you don't come to Crew Falls. You think you're, like you hate your dad.

I was just there for Thanksgiving. Do I really want to go back and have the time of my life with Crew? And I don't want to join the Hall of Fame, you know. I mean, it's literally what you're going to have to do, buddy. All right, man. I'll, Jory, I'll see you in two months. All right, see you a couple months.

Hong, hon.