Unpaid And Underrated - 123 : Previous Contractor (ft. Big Curt)

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Curt. They dive right into great topics like training grip, heart stuff, Mario, and fruit. Links Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @curtlifts1988 (https://www.instagram.com/curtlifts1988/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Curt.

Oh, okay. I really want to see Keith pronounce Kurt's last name. Pronouncing it usually isn't the problem. It's spelling it that people get tripped up on. So I'm going to try first before he gets here. Is it Kenzi or Kenchi? Neither. Okay. Sensi. Stop it. All S sounds.

Cool. You could go Chenchi if you really wanted, but... Well, if that were Mandarin, those would be X's. It would be Shenshi. Multicultural over here on Unpaid and Underrated During the pre-show Greece Yeah Big Italian America over here Someone said chicken barn

I feel stereotyped Yeah But now Keith has been summoned Every week I can't get it out That's not Yeah because that thing's a monster Mm-hmm

and like the bottom of it it's like it's so losing its dexterity if you will thank ladies and gentlemen welcome back to episode 14 surgeries of the unpaid and underrated

podcast a podcast for crew by crew and as experienced recently relentlessly mocked by crew And one of your hosts, Big Joey, joined by Big Keith over there. Howdy, howdy.

And Big Kurt with a C. Is that you? Kurt with a C. Is that you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is me, formerly known as Big Curd with a C. He is here with us today, too. I have a drink I'm going to try on the podcast for the first time.

So if anybody else has anything else they want to talk about, I'll do mine after. Nothing special. Wegman, Sparkling Water. O.G. Yeah, I went fancy with the LaCroy. French. I got the beach plum today. Beach plum. Does it taste like a sandy plum?

Yeah. What about that? Vaguely stone fruit-esque, but nothing to write home about. I love a good plum. I had one today. Mine is something that Morgan picked up to try and get me to try in the podcast. It is an alcohol drink.

It is called lit pickle. Interesting. That is up your alley. It is a hard pickle seltzer, which is made with real kosher dill pickles, vodka, and no artificial flavoring. Yeah. And the reason I thought it would be fun to try this is Keith, I want to tell you this story

first, because I know this will make you laugh. So Morgan was like, oh, I got that pickle drink. And she said, you know, I thought maybe you'd want a little pickle liquor on your podcast and I'm immediately being the child I am when you're a pickle liquor and then I made myself die laughing by yelling you're a pickle liquor. That's really funny.

Now I'm a tree. Is it a, uh, so is it just a sparkling vodka like beverage? Like it said, yeah, vodka as the alcohol was opposed to. So that'd be interesting. All that. That's not. Well, it's going to smell like fucking canned pickles with vodka. Like that's, and I can barely smell anything.

So for that. to get right through all of the sinus is. That's gnarly. I'm intrigued. And nope, I hate it. That is awful. And that is... You'll take a lamine when. Yeah.

Oh, okay, yeah. We're going to go and tag out on that one and get my wife to finish it. Yep, that sounds like a loss. Side note, a plum. Is there a fruit with a bigger, like, seed to fruit ratio? Because that's like, isn't a plum? Like, it's like 40. percent fucking seed.

So like, yeah, the amount of, I guess it's not a ton of effort. You just got to not eat the seed, but like, I'm curious of how the seed gets so big versus the fruit aspect of it. I don't know. I'm not big, uh, big, big fruit, fruit, fruit, fruit, not a big fruit guy. I don't know. I'm not a good feeling, you know, I don't know. I feel like peaches probably have a bigger pit, but they're also usually just bigger in general.

That's true. Maybe that's just what I'm thinking of as a, no, I know, I didn't ever, oh, yeah, peaches. fuzzy, and a plum is, like, it's less fuzzy and much smaller. We're going to move to a completely different. Speaking of that, we're going to move to an orange sap sucker, which is the maple water I sent the boys one day. Yeah, we're going back

to water. Yeah, it's just, well, what's it? Was it ice cold or was it, like, room temp? Oh, I know. It was ice cold, and it's still horrendous, just like rotten rotten pickle with, like, vodka? Essentially, yeah. No thanks.

It was like a dehydrated pickle pissed in my mouth. I don't think I really I don't think I like that at all. That would be an episode title option, for sure, but that's just a little too vulgar for the family. That was a funny one, though. I got the stalemate gripper last week. Oh, we saw it.

And that was, I had some fun with that. And it's the ironic thing that's been at the commercial gym that I go to for like the past six days now since I left it there on Saturday. It was very, I was actually got in trouble because Stephanie was like going to do it on Sunday when she deadlifted. She was like, where's the gripper? And I was like, oh, no, it was in my bag, probably. And sure enough, it was not.

And, yeah, my buddies, the trains of the gym sent me a picture of it. And I'm like, fuck. Yeah, so she was not happy that she didn't like get to partake when she was actually. Hey, Stephanie, buy a second one. Yeah, yeah. That'll fix all your problem. Yeah, but I'm sure Kurt will tell all about it, all about his experience with it later when we actually get the guest on the horn. But it was fun.

I didn't buy it initially, but I kind of felt like, you know, I was like, man, I'm not going to fucking use this thing? Is it another $60, $70 item? Blah, blah, blah. But it's like, once you see everyone else doing it, and it's just kind of like, you want to be a part of the thing. You know, you want to see your name on the thing, even if it's fucking last place.

It's like, it's just cool to like be one more. They're good fucking salesman. God, they come up with the dumbest shit, but we buy it. And like, there's a core group of us that are going to fucking spend damn near $100 on shit just to be more in the, inner circle that we already are in. It's a hell of a, it's a hell of a job. They're doing with all those small little things they do. Speaking of wives and horse stall mats, um, we were at

Costco on Tuesday and Costco had horse stall mats. And first of all, they're only $30 Canadian here. Yeah, but that one you posted a picture of was only four foot, not six foot. Yeah. Yeah. So either way, but they're the exact same thing. Like I literally could have bought one of those and cut my, cut it myself and made horse stall grip or Matt. Oh yeah. But it was just so funny because I was like, Oh, look, it's horse doll mats. And she walked up. She went to go pick it up. And if you know anything about Morgan, she'll, like, challenge herself so she doesn't feel

weak. And she literally got half the corner up, dropped it and said, and I quote, no, that's heavy. I'm leaving. And then just walked away. That was hilarious. And I was like, now you get the jokes. Now you're on the inside. What are you guys wearing?

Anything cool? OG deadlifter. I got the massonomics lifting department in the new was this island reef or coral reef summer breeze whatever it's called yeah one of those one of those green adjacents or turquoise adjacent i don't know yeah whatever color whatever comfort i think they're actually coming out with a green i think they're drop next week is a green shirt of some sort well of that sort but yeah it's probably going to be called something completely different yeah greenish island leprecon we don't use green around here oh no they did reference

what it was called it's now it'll come to me it was some kind of i don't remember I can't wait until next week. So, breaking news if anyone's listening. Hopefully, when you listen to next week's episode, my God, like, we're going to start recording 90 minutes earlier, ideally. Like, that is the plan. I've got the schedule switched around for the next three or four guests, and this should be the last 830 EST or EDDDT, whatever Joey E keeps asking me in Discord.

Like, I don't even know what the fuck that means. Is that, like, because I'm not into the daylight savings yet, and standard versus daylight like i don't because there's eastern standard time and then i think he'd be calling you i think he's referencing eastern daylight savings standard time which is like next month but i ain't reading that essay yeah no esth is just if i started like if i started like giving people the time that the podcast starts in that like in not estee and like it just means estimated and i wouldn't know in the show oh god i wonder if some dumb ass actually ever did Because I always say it because like in our show notes it says like I usually tell people 825 but I think in one other thing it says 830 and it's just like maybe maybe as it's estimatedly 825 or like I don't know.

I hope no one would would be that fucking daft but but yeah don't put it over anybody man. But the whole thing is you know, I think Joey mentioned the you did talk about your new job last week, right? Yeah. Okay. So I don't want to still look under on that. But like the cool thing is I'm so excited to actually start recording during. during daytime and not like after my house has already gone to bed and I'm like just sitting here twiddling my thumbs for an hour half the time going like I could be doing

something. So I was so excited. So ideally we can go like seven to nine 30, the latest. Yeah, 945. I'm shutting it down, which means we can actually like be in bed by 1030, 11 and actually fall asleep and before we, you know, both have to get up between five and six every day. Yep. That'll be fun. So ideas. let me know in like a month, do all of us have more energy during the episode? I'm curious because I noticed the sister podcast, like, I don't know if it's the fake until you make it kind of thing or they just are that energetic, but like they bring some heat usually throughout the whole episode. And I'm like, I know I'm, you know, I'm, you know, a self-admitting. I'm obviously pretty flat sometimes towards the end. But ideally if we're wrapping up at fucking 10 o'clock instead of fucking 1130, it'll be harder to be flat. hopefully so yeah that was a long way to say awesome stuff is coming all right you got a bunch of stuff you added here um well i guess let's see uh oh yeah i had well is it flan or flan what the hell did it at the mexican place flan i say flan it was pretty good i never had it it was uh

i got it was a mom and pop mexican place i assume it was legitimately everyone likes to make fun of that term but it is what it was so and i for one will tell you i don't understand why they make fun of it. Yeah, because they're mean. I don't. I have yet to get clued into that joke. Well, segue into a joke that I did not get at first. And I was like, the whole fridge cigarette Diet Coke thing, I didn't understand it. It didn't get where it got legs and how it morphed into it. And then I kind of like, I think I just thought it was, because like, I drink Diet Coke. I drink, you know, three to five Diet Coke a week, give or take, you know, maybe seven if I'm having a bad week. But I try not to have one every day, but I don't.

don't go more than every other day, probably without consuming a nice crisp Diet Coke. And, you know, I got fucking 10 different people in my ear between family members and coworkers, that's so bad for you, the aspartanis, this, that. And I'm just like, is it, so in my mind, I get that more than I get people saying Diet Coke's awesome. So I'm like, are we making fun of Diet Coke because it's got cancer causing things? Is that why we're calling a cigarette? And then when Jake broke it down, it's like, no, it's like the equivalent of like having that euphoric cigarette kind of thing.

And I was like, and then I had my diet Coke today at lunch after having a shitty morning. I was like, oh my God, this is a fridge cigarette. This is fucking amazing because like I feel 15% better right now than I did before I had my fridge cigarette. So now I get it. But I also don't remember where it all started from. So whoever. That's me and ghost energy drinks.

Like I just, it's no matter what's happening, I have my first sip. And I'm just like, yes, I am instantly better. jeez anybody that tells me aspartame's bad well you know we gave a thousand milligrams to rats 10 minutes apart and a bunch of them died like no fuck of course they did you found the LD 50 of something you dummies aspartame is not bad for you don't let them talk to you about that

anyway speaking of hating the internet I did a video this week and maybe it's time to explain where that video actually comes from so barefoot had reposted a story of somebody doing Tanner and Tommy's sketch

about asking for a spot and then turning the iPad around and asking for a tip and they did it like scene by scene like it was the exact same skit okay so I forwarded to Tanner and then I was like I'm gonna make a video about how much I hate

that the internet does this that they like something goes and then everybody just recreates it and I made that video and then you fucks all just recreated the video in the same way I don't think Nate even told you like that was, he didn't tell me he was doing it.

And I want to say, but I mean, like, Nate was in like a, Nate started a group chat, which is me, Tanner, and Nate and tried to get everyone in board with it. And then, uh, I think I, I sent it to that chat and then Tanner didn't get a chance to do one. And then like, by that point, like six crew had done one. So it was kind of like more of a crew thing. And it was funny because in my caption, I was like, yeah, and I know you guys are going to do it to me. And at first I was like, oh, hoo, hoo, like, this is the most obvious joke you could have made. But then they started to get really out there and funny.

and like in directions I didn't expect like Nate crashing out and throwing his hard hat he put a lot of work in his he like he was very animated that was good there was a lot of good there was like there was like four or five good ones and then there was like even new crew yeah the last kid that posted one

I've you know minimal interaction with him whatsoever and then I was like oh be like that's putting in the work like yeah what he was that the guy with the leaf blower yeah yeah Yeah, that was fucking hilarious. Kurt,

are we allowed to swear with you on here? You are, yeah. All right, cool. And I should have checked on that first. Yeah, tough shit or not, buddy. Yeah, and then I, um, I message Ryan the day you guys were all doing that. And I was like, you know you have a chance to make the funniest video, right? And he doesn't check his texts for 24 hours.

So the next day, he's like, I just saw this. What are you talking about? And I'm like, bro, use the skeleton and make, just use my audio and make a fun, like, make the video with the skeleton me and then he ended up doing it and he made it even funnier by having it scratch his face and have the eyes light up when he said do something original like he he added some really good touches to it but I just wish he had been a little quicker on that idea because that was yeah that was really funny because I thought Nate was going to I thought Nate was going to kind of like collect all of them and then kind of do what Kevin ended up doing

at the end and Kevin then like I was going to try to do what Kevin did but I'd also make a time for that shit so I do appreciate Kevin sending that out because I think having like all six of us at once and then like even talking over each other it was basically it reminded me of a roundtable it really did like six six people talking about the same goddamn thing and their own little way simultaneously and i was like oh that's a fucking roundtable i love it yeah no he did really good on that um what ron's here hey ron hi ron okay um sorry massonomics i g i uh i've had a i've had a i've had a week and being featured on there a couple times my my fucking fail video on the the gripper and then uh whoever i remember who made the video of me doing the fucking farmers carry and talking

about hot pockets or or pizza bagels yeah yeah that so that was all funny and then i was kind of looking and i was like looking at their view account and and like their in their engagement and like am i single-handedly crashing their algorithm and like ruining their instagram room and i was No, okay, it's kind of on average on like their less engaged, uh, non-viral, um, posts. I was like, okay. I was like, I don't want to be like, they, they post like one thing with crew and it's like just doesn't get any traction and like just fucking kills their, you know, but it's a numbers game. He literally posts fucking, what's even twice a day. Twice a day, but like for, I mean, the gym's 10 years old or whatever, but like is the Instagram 10 years old.

So actually, I'm curious if like, if you go to it, does it show how many, how many, how many, I mean, I know on our pro. Like on my profile, I can see how many posts. I have them curious how many posts he has. It's got to be like tens of thousands. Speaking of bagel bites, we were grocery shopping and I hit Morgan with the, did you know that if pizza's on a bagel, you can have pizza any time? And me thinking I'm being funny, she immediately goes into a small rant about how her mom used to make them and she hated them. And I'm going to tell you, I zoned right out.

I was like, oh, yeah, you killed me. Like, I was making a funny joke and you have legitimate. memories about these things. I never had them as a kid. Like we grew up like we didn't get shit that was like catered to kids and like they were bought off commercials. We got like what was cheap at the cheap store. Like I don't remember having even like a bagel pizza equivalent honestly like maybe like

we had like the generic hot pockets was the closest thing I can think of. And then like the surplus like the in bulk pizza things, but they weren't the the bagel ones. Kurt says there are 6,633. That's a lot. I was a little off. You know, you could have just said that. You are on the podcast.

I didn't want to interrupt anyone. Please interrupt. We'll go off forever. I didn't even register that it was Kurt that said. I thought you were just reading like, like, I can't, it's a hard time keeping track of who's like just consuming in the background

there. And I was like, I thought it was Ron or somebody that typed it out. And I was like, yeah, Kurt, like you were literally here. Like, I know we haven't got the gas from the horn yet,

but this is, this is, this is everyone talks now, but. Anybody get a chance to watch the YouTube video, the plate wall, the vintage weight plate wall? What do you think of it, Kurt? I want to hear it. It's good.

It's different now that I've actually been to the Masonomics gym. So it's like, oh, I've been standing there. When he's looking over and mentioning that there were people doing grip stuff on the other side, I was like, oh, I know what that other side off camera looks like. So it kind of adds an extra layer to all the videos. I mean, I don't personally have a ton of interest. in vintage weights so i mean i did watch the whole thing through and i can appreciate those who do collect that type of thing but i don't really have the space or money to to dabbling in that

sort of thing but it's it's cool hearing about all the the history behind some of those plates and the history is the most important thing absolutely yep oh yeah uh yeah i liked it enjoyed it uh you know i'm not really big into anything else other than like my york stuff so I was like, oh, there's, there's York Deep Dish and there's York Mills and everything else. Just like, eh, I'm good. I'm good. But he did with my favorite part about it was the, he printed off Ephron's, like, iron guide. And, like, my plates are the ones featured as the York Milled plates in that actual book.

Like, Ephron got this picture of me from a years ago. And I was like, well, that's pretty cool. And then I was like, I was like, I was like, you, because he would mention, like, the York ones are like the least important ones in the book or whatever or on his wall. And I was like, I wonder he actually has him in that little catalog. And he's like, yeah, yeah. I was like, fuck yeah, that's awesome. It's like a little piece of the no wine cellars in there. That's what he was saying.

So I was like, it made me happy. I wish I had seen that when I was there that would have made me happier. But that's still good stuff. And then what is your favorite prank clip there, Joey? What's that? Oh, I was just doom scrolling. And I've realized that the funniest thing I've ever seen on Instagram now. You know when people wear inflatable costumes?

Yeah, like the sumo wrestler or something to that extent. Yeah, yeah. but like some of them are full body and like you're fully encapsulated. Have you ever seen the videos where people walk up and fart in the air intake and then you have to watch the person flipping out trying to get out of the costume with the fart smell? That would be funny, but like, you're not going to get out quicker than like it's going to, at this point you, you're better off just like walking away and hoping that like the more airflow helps dissipate faster.

And walking doesn't help in those things. It is just officially my favorite thing because all of them have the same moment of realization and then immediately just cut to them like thrashing around all over the place. Yeah, I realize that I'm going to laugh like a moron every time I see one of those videos.

That's funny. It reminds me of a it was like the one sad Robin, well, one of the mini sad Robin Williams movies where like they all, I think it was Jack and they're all farting in a coffee can and then like the last person is to open it up or something and then it just like knocks them out cold. I don't remember that.

I think it was a, it was, like, not a happy, go-looking movie. I'm pretty sure, like, I don't know. He had to say, yeah, I don't know. Tommy probably hasn't seen it, though, but there's a traumatizing child movie with, like, child death, I believe, or some sort. I don't really recall.

Oh, we have this game we like to play. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I might be completely wrong. I'm sure someone will tell me that, like, that's not what the movie's about you don't. Yeah. And I bet you rated it, too. I, uh, stay tuned. I'll look it up when I get some downtime later.

Should we get to this week's episode? Yeah, Kurt, what did you think of it, buddy? Did you get a chance to consume Tanner and Tommy's episode? I did. The Q&A episode we're talking about here. Do you tell me, man? I think that's the one, the latest one. I didn't.

I got part of the pre-show for the one they just recorded, but the one that actually was released, I did see the whole thing. Isn't it hard keeping track of, was that last week, or was that pre-show? I don't know. Pre-shows have been extra spicy and crazy lately. They're going like 20 minutes, and I'm like,

Jesus, sick. Yeah. I think my favorite part of the most recent episode was actually towards the end when they were joking around about what to title the episode. And they're just coming up with like the absolute worst titles possible. Like what's Tommy's least favorite font? I was cracking up about that. But yeah, I always like the Q&A episodes. So they touch on so many different topics that there's always something good in there. As far as a rating goes, I'd have to give it a five out of five backup SD cards since Tommy's video cut out the last few minutes. Yeah, I got through it. One of my questions was on there. That was nice. The font talk was really fun because it is funny how seriously designers take font and how unsurious the rest of us take it. And I think that that's pretty, I've always enjoyed listening to that.

type of thing. So I'm going to give that a five out of five Helvetica bolds. Yeah, that is funny that we all wanted to talk about the font. I, now was this like the font for decorative? So everything they talked about for the font related, I've never fucking heard of any of the terms they've ever used. I've never heard of

the names of those fonts. I didn't know what the fuck they were talking about. Like, I don't, I was completely lost and they were like trying to imagine what the font of the fuck they were talking about. I don't. I don't know what you're talking about. It's not fucking aerial or whatever the fuck the other one is, Times New Roman,

like, I don't know what it looks like, and I don't even know what those look like. I just know that there's the two most common. So, yeah, that was very lost on all of that. Tanner shitting on chat, GBT, was hysterical because I've lived that moment of like, all right, chat, GBT,

like, this image is perfect. Just tweak it a little bit more. And then it, like, ruins it, or it takes 47 minutes to, like, create an image just to then tell you that you're out of free images for the day. And I'm like, oh, cool, thanks. Thanks for not telling me that, like,

before. Or waiting, like, five minutes to tell me that, like, it broke guideline rules or something. So, yes, I, I fully understand the Tanner getting animated and, uh, you know, having his Texas power bar nerling grind it off with, uh, chat GPT. Um, crew falls gym being confirmed as, uh, you know, a gym that I can't pronounce the name of. So, so, and then someone like, phonetically typed it out. And I'm just like, I, that can't be right, but okay.

I wish I had it in front of me now, but it's, I think I always say, Los Campionis. But I don't know if that's right. I don't think that was right. But either way, we are running that back. And then, yeah, just the font talk. I didn't understand that at all. So I'm going to go ahead and give it a five out of five crewfall gyms. And I think we're going to switch it up a little bit going forward

and try to hit you with some ad reads a little bit earlier and spread them out just a hair just so it's not such a mouthful at the end for me. So Joey's going to hit you with our first round of sponsor reads. Yeah, sorry about that. It's hot as the dickens. I had to go open my window. Um, you have code unpaid. You can use those at any of our affiliates. It's actually, I think it's the same code at all of the following. You've got obsidian ammonia, but don't order till he's back from vacation and leave, leave him alone. Um, place your orders when he is back on the 22nd or 25th, I think. Um, you can use code unpaid at plate snacks, which of course, most of you have been doing. Getting your banners, getting your stickers. That's a pretty popular code. Thank you for that code. And of course, my friend, Kurt, Chris at Belt Fred strength.

Fred? Belt Fred Franks. Belt Fed strength. I don't have any Fred's in crew. Yeah. Big Fred's going to join tomorrow and be like, you're talking about. Also code unpaid there, which is awesome, right?

Some of those we get kickback on. Some of them we don't. Some of them are just for you to go in there and say, hey, I support crew. I support you. So go ahead and use those codes there. And then we have a Masonomics ad read coming. That we do. Should I just get right into it here?

Yeah, dive right in. All right, excellent. Nestled in the heartland of the northwestern Midwest United States is a place called Western Northeast South Dakota. Here, in Aberdeen, you'll find the Urban Studio Salon. Slightly less importantly, there's a basement gym below this hair salon for people interested in getting strong, staying strong, and using their strength. The vintage iron in this gym tells tales of a podcast started by a group of friends.

friends, a line of lifted-related apparel and accessories, and an active weekly blog across multiple platforms. Beckoning to nerling enthusiasts, Smith Machine officinados, and pendulum-squot purists alike, massonomics brings together folks of all types, from powerlifters to strong men and women, and even people addicted to horse stall mat fumes. When your crew, you're big. Massonomics. You know you can trust them because they're an LLC. Well done. Thank you.

Thank you. Let's get our guest on the horn. Big Kurt, is that you? It is me. Thanks for having me. You're live and unpaid and underrated. Welcome. Keith is going to hit you with all of the hard-hitting questions and I am going to joke about

them. I'm ready for it. Yeah, buddy. What brought you here? What brought you to Massonomics? How did you hear about this? How did you see this? So my first exposure to Massanomics that really registered, like I'm sure I saw a meme on

Instagram or something a while ago. But the first thing that really stuck with me was seeing Jen Thompson wear her, yeah, buddy, lightweight shirt in any video she's ever in. And I was doing some searching, trying to find who made this shirt, but it had already been discontinued at that point. But at that point, I was kind of just like keeping an eye out on things, and I noticed other beer-related shirts, and that kind of just led me to Massonomics. and this probably would have been February or so that I kind of became aware of who Masonomics is, what they do.

And then end of February, early March, I was kind of regretting not going to the Arnold this year. And so I was looking for some YouTube recap videos of it. And most of them were kind of just centered around the bodybuilding portion of it, which, like, I can just look at the results. That's enough for me.

I see one picture. I see the names. That's fine. But I saw on YouTube that they had like a two hour long recap. I was like, I don't know that I'm going to watch this whole thing, but this seems like a good place to start. So that was the first episode of the podcast that I listened to was their recap video.

Because I was like, if they don't have like a video that's a two hour recap, okay, I got you. Yeah, yeah. So I didn't realize it was a podcast at the time. I thought it was just a really long recap.

I watched. I enjoyed it. I started cherry picking some episodes after that. And then I realized I was looking forward. to a new episode coming out each week. And I think, you know, within three or four weeks, I decided to, well, I was an idiot and I kind of fell for that there's only three spots right. You're like the six per. There's definitely at least five people tell me that on this podcast.

I smile so hard every time. So, yeah, I got suckered in and joined, but I haven't done a credit card charge bag just yet on that. So very new, very, that's awesome. We were glad to get you, you know, get her claws into you and get you here, though. That's awesome. Yeah, I do head first into the cult. Nice, nice. Yeah, you're pretty active on the Discord.

I can vouch for that. Yes. Yeah, and I'm pretty familiar with Discord prior to Massonomics. I'm a bit of a video game nerd, so I'm in a whole bunch of video game related Discord. So that's probably my most used social media platform, if you want to call it that. So there being a Discord was a draw for me because I knew I could just, like kind of assimily and kind of know what's going on and figure out how to use things. So that was for me, just being a bit of a video game nerd, that was very inviting.

That might be the first time we've heard that, that like Discord being. So like not having a discord and having that like the community aspect, but like the actual platform of Discord being in a draw because I think that is a inhibitor for most of us masters lifters that like people don't want to like try this new thing. so that is actually a good insight that uh you know at least there's some people out there that like oh discord is a you know a positive uh the platform itself so cool and the problem with the massonomics discord is every other discord sucks now and they're not behind the paywalls and they weren't the first ones yes also that but it i've noticed that is i've joined other

discords and i've been like this is boring nobody's talking and when they do talk it's just asking questions to try and get something from people like this sucks i'm going back to mass nomics. So, yeah, some of the discords I'm just like, I don't want to be here anymore, but like, you're all my friends and it'd be like noticeable if you leave. I was like, I guess I'm here. Just chime in every now and then. Big Kurt, just so they know who they're talking to, what is your name, your Instagram,

your handles, anywhere they want people to find you? Yep, you bet. So Kurt Sensi is my full name. If you want to be real formal about it, on Instagram, I am Kurt Lifts, 1988, and that is Kurt with a C. I'm not super active on Instagram. I post maybe one or two stories a couple times a week. I think I have like six main page posts ever.

But yeah, I'm doing my best to like people's posts and just kind of keep up with the comings and goings of the crew. This is the part where I check to see if I'm following you. I don't know. Yeah, I think I am. Let's go. Yeah, buddy.

I'm getting so. better at that? Yeah, I'm a bit of an influencer, you can say. I got Big Joey following me. You have arrived. Welcome to the show. Big Kerr, where do you live and where are you from? So right now, I am in Denver, Colorado. It's kind of like the suburban outer ring of the city. Originally, I'm from eastern Pennsylvania near Allentown, about an hour or so north of Philadelphia. lived there most of my life, ended up going to college out towards Harrisburg, and then

lived out that way for a bit. I briefly lived in Minneapolis for a while for work, moved back to Pennsylvania, and then my wife and I came out this way in the summer of 2019. She had a job opportunity out this way.

Nice, nice. Well-traveled man. So the one piece of Masonomic merch, you're very new, so, but, you know, you are acting enough. I think you, and you've been in, you've been to places, you've seen some stuff as far as, like, coming to crew falls or, um, to, to lift her Levisie and whatnot. So what's that one thing that you saw in the last, uh, six months or so that you were like, damn, I, I wish that was available. Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty sad that I, I, it sounds like I did

miss out on the Arnold bathroom stickers. I'm pretty torn up about that one. Oh, I'm sure somebody's got some to send you. No, I think I, I think I, I think I've, like, three or four of them. I think everyone has a try or four of them. I think I've sent three or four to multiple people. Yeah. Honestly, I don't have like a white whale item at this point. You know, one thing that had been on my radar has been acquired. You know, I won't go into too much more detail there. I would say I, you know, living in Colorado, the sun can be pretty intense. So I tend to be drawn towards lighter color stuff. And, you know, if they had like, you know, some tank tops or

something next year. I'd probably scoop some up, especially if they're on the, you know, the lighter side of the color spectrum. But, um, but yeah, I'm, I'm pretty happy with what I've been able to get so far. I just got a massonomics gym shirt in the last drop. That, that would have been what I said. Um, you know, I felt like a, I would have felt like a bit of a fraud buying one of those before I had been to the gym. Um, I guess now I need to get good at bench press so I can buy a bench heavy shirt. So that might be, that's the next goal. I guess. Nice.

Now, you can't elaborate anymore on that one piece that you just acquired. Is that going to be a surprise? Like, it's going to have a big unveiling, or did you get it from nefarious, you know, ways of procuring it? Because now I'm confused. Well, it's the first piece of Massanomics merch that caught my eye when Jen Thompson was wearing it. And I'll just go with there as a nefarious way of buying it in a secluded back channel. Oh, buddy.

may or may not have been in person interesting well stay tuned we'll get Kurt on next year maybe he'll tell us a story then you know he's playing his cards a little close to his chest so far I just don't want to get anyone in a legal trouble here legal trouble Jesus now I'm now I'm really intrigued uh we'll we'll we'll take this offline Kurt yeah you know uh the Hall of Fame status did you did you actually request a card yet since you would have been well after the cards okay so we're we're where you had on the card. Yeah, this episode here will mark number six for me.

Wouldn't you have already been? You could have counted that. I wasn't sure if the, the group episode counted or not. So then I'm already at six, I guess. I, you know, as one of the, you know, post the podcast and, you know, very not really affiliated with Massonomics's Hall of Fame, you know, rating whatsoever. I still feel that I would say that being, because you were on it, like, if you were on for two minutes, like maybe a gray area, but you were literally on for like, you know,

an hour and a half, two hours. I think, I think that counts. So, and I'm definitively at six now. Yeah, there you go. There you go. And then Cruz Falls will be seven for me. And there's actually quite a few. I'm planning to go to Arnold next year as well. And then we'll be competing at the Lift Hard Live Easy. And then by that point, I'll hit a year. I probably will have finished the back catalog. So I potentially will be at 12 or so by next summer. Nice. Yeah, you, I mean, for not, so, yeah, you, for anyone listening that wasn't sure, Kurt, Curtis, is it, do you have forgot about, you know, I, I have other friends named Kurt that do like to be called Curtis. So if I ever. It's just Kurt. It's usually Kurt's with a CR Curtis, but I'm, I'm a weirdo and it's just Kurt with a seat. I got you. Interesting. Good to know. Um, so big Kurt here, you know, came out and you essentially just volunteered for both, uh, power lifting and strong man and just came out for the, for the homies. Um, that was pretty cool. but next year you definitely want to get signed up for something you're saying

I think so yeah I mean so I recently had some surgery and I do need to just kind of see how that heals up and what I'm able to do I think worst case scenario though I'll be able to do pull only but I don't work I did this is something I was gonna I think I was gonna talk to there's a lot of moving pieces I think for next year and stuff too that you know we're not deliberately say anything about but like a thought is you could always um it would be cool to theoretically have like a actual, a very small, somewhat sanctioned or at least somewhat organized grip competition as like just a time filler at some point. I'm sure there's somewhere between

the weekend there. There's got to be a time to have like an hour to just be like, oh, let's everybody watch this for now. Like that'd be something you could either participate in or, I mean, potentially you have to run because I don't think anyone else taken up the mantle. But that would be kind of cool to see. I haven't heard back, but I did suggest that to Tanner as well. And I offered to run it. Oh, that would be cool. Leaking some DMs here. But, you know, if there is demand for that, let Tanner know, let Tommy know. You know, I have coming out to Crew Falls, you can definitely bend their ears a little bit more to in person.

Yeah, I'll do that. I mean, there's already, you know, informal grip event there. So. Yeah. Sounds like people enjoy that. But, absolutely. But yeah, it does sound like there could be some, some changes coming, both that they've mentioned on the podcast, as well. well as some I might have a little bit of dirt on some of the changes that are oh yeah okay we all know here we go yeah we know we know us and I are privy to

stuff but we will not be we will not be uh in in I guess opening any more cat bags what the fuck I mean this is the whole keep the cats inside the bag yeah yeah this is the whole see it's it's only 915 and I'm already fucking falling asleep over here because I can't verbalize shit apparently um so we got the Hall of Fame status he does not, Tanner, he does not know his supporting membership number, so do your thing. And we do appreciate Tanner every week. When, you know, sometime more than usually

Tuesday or Wednesday, he throws in the updated supporting membership number. So, if I had to guess on Kurtz, it's got to be 500 something. It's going to be a big one. It probably will be the highest number that you've had on if I had to guess. I don't know. You, we had that fucking

who's the kid we had on that had literally just joined, Chris Maxwell. He was like, he was I mean, he joined like, so find when his episode was and like two weeks before that he was a fucking, he was new to crew, I think. So maybe you,

maybe he edged you out. But yeah, there was, there's probably not. I'm up there though. Yeah, yeah. We'll know soon. Yeah, yeah. Good deal. Um, are you certified?

There you go. I am. Yeah, I actually got certified at the Lift Hard Live Easy. Oh, it's like an extra special certification. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll just.

talking to Tanner about it. I was like, hey, could you like bring one of these? And we figured it was just going to be easiest if I did it as an online order and then picked the in-person pickup as the shipping option. And so yeah, I picked up my second ever online order. Very good. What's the gym name? So I actually have a parallel to a recent guest, Big Buzz. So I will get to the gym name. I'm going to ramble for a moment here. Is there a fishing story involved here? There is not. But, so similar to Big Buzz, I was really amused by the just concept of perfect little sweeties gym. You got, you know, one of the biggest crew members here with just the absolute antithesis to like

a hypermasculine classic gym name. And I just was absolutely tickled by that. But I didn't want to just like straight up rip it off or anything. So I'm like, okay, you know what? I'm going to let my wife name this. Kind of like how Buzzlet is. kid name it and she came up with the Denver Strength Bunker which is like kind of raw macho a little bit of a miss but then Buzz also ended up with like

the bullet gym or bullet barbell or something so we both kind of like had the same idea to let someone else name it to steer away from like a super aggressive name and then we just ended up with aggressive names that's funny that is really cool I like that logic though That's good. That's good. Love it. So how has your consumption of you and you been in general and then roll that into explaining, getting people to fill out of your questionnaire? Yeah, so I started watching you and you leading up to the Lift Hard Live Easy. I kind of just wanted to know a little bit about some more crew members. So I've been watching all of the new episodes since, you know, maybe late June, early July.

And I've also kind of just been going through and cherry picking the back catalog with folks that I either spent time with or who approached me or kind of left some type of memorable mark. I don't know how many exactly I've watched, but it's maybe a third of them at this point. And then as far as getting people to fill out the questionnaire, I pretty much was just like, hey, some of, you know, I'm in this like online community of folks that like lifting weights. and I'm going to be on a podcast kind of talking about it. Would you mind filling out a questionnaire? And thankfully all, everyone I sent it to actually fill it out.

Sweet. Good deal. That's a good methodology for you and you. Yeah. That's literally like, I think what we tell people. Yeah. Like more or less verbatim is like,

if you don't start listening regularly now, you're never going to and then cherry pick people you know or just anything. And I think it'll be easier to, going forward because we finally decided as a you know a trifecta of the you and you team here that we're going to start putting featuring then like the guest first name in there and I'm still trying to twist Nate's arm even if he just gives me access to the website and I'll go through and fucking OCDE edit every single episode from the very beginning just so people can actually like it's just easier but I but I don't think that would push back out to the podcast platform yeah I think that was what Nate said that's why he didn't want to bother doing it yeah but at least on website it would like I don't know I see where you're coming from but I see where he's coming from because it's it won't retroactively change it on YouTube or Apple or Spotify it would only be the website but I also think that would be worth doing yeah I would if someone did the work

yeah honestly I don't have to do it we got some smart guys in the crew that you know might have an hour to kill and are really tech set just type type away there and actually yeah yeah yeah we'll make that happen someone uh reach out to us if you uh want to contribute and help out. It would be awesome. All right, least fun and most fun. Kurt, are you familiar with this game that we're about to play? Have you heard about it? I have heard about this. Do you know about it? It's a relatively new segment here called least fun, most fun. So anyone listening for the first time, I'm going to give Kurt a single topic, and he's going to go through and uses druthers,

kind of explain to me what he's opinion on the least fun thing about said topic and as well as the most fun thing. It's not either or it is both. So, Kurt, least fun, most fun. Uh, you know, grip chaining, grip training and all that entails of grip training. All right. Um, so I'm going to start with most fun. Um, and I would say, I mean, kind of similar to massonomics is that the community is just very welcoming and very friendly. Um, so I've met quite a few folks. Um, I would say the majority of my local friends are through the grip community at this point. Um, But, you know, I'm connected with folks all over the country and internationally just, you know, from following each other on Instagram and meeting folks at competitions.

So it's just like a very warm community. I would love to see it get married up with the Masonomics community a bit better. And I'm hoping the horse stall Matt Gripper kind of bends us in that direction. That's a selfish ask. I would say least fun is just how damn frustrating it is. when there's like 40 pounds on something and you can't lift it. It's like how, and just how quickly it goes from feeling really easy to impossible. You know, especially on things where you can't lift a ton of weight.

So an example I'll give is at the Shaw Classic, I bought this coin that is intended to be hooked onto a carabiner and use as a like super narrow pinch lift implement. And so I broke it out for the first time. maybe a week ago or so, and I start loading some weight on the pin and picking it up. It feels really easy, and then I throw like a five on there, and it just is stapled to the ground. And I just feel so weak and pathetic because it was like under 40 pounds that I was unable to lift on this thing. And it is absolutely infuriating when that happens, but that's just the name of the game. It goes from feeling really easy to really hard in a hurry.

Did you post about that somewhere? I may have made it I think I made a story Okay because I saw that Either that or somebody else also Price I think just posted a coin lift Or something coin yeah he did also have a Okay I think we actually did it the same day

So whatever day he posted that Fucking copycat Bryce over here You know jeez I might have been the copycat I'm not sure It was brunt yeah What is it about people seeing something And recreating it line about getting it And passing it off as their own

that's going around these days the coin lift is in tree is it like just a quarter someone drilled a hole in or is it just like a random piece of like the skin skinny skinny metal in a round shape that's like it it's like a commemorative coin like kind of something you would find on late night TV being sold for three easy payments of 29 99 um it's just like it's probably a bit bigger than a half dollar um I'm not sure what the equivalent would be Canadian currency, so sorry for discriminating against you, Joey here. But it's basically kind of modeled after a plate in that it has like the different quadrants kind of sectioned out with like a line and then like in one section,

it has like Brian Shaw's logo and another. I think it has the year and another. I think it says the Shaw Classic. But it's just a large coin with like a carabiner attachment on it. I'd buy something like that. It's just fun to, like, take the gym and have the buddies try to pick up. Yeah, see how piss they get trying to lift up, like, 35 pounds. Well, speaking of that, we'll go to the hype person question.

I know, as heard this week on Massonomics, finally got Tommy and Tanner to answer it, kind of. So let's say you're going for that big lift. Let's say it's a big coin grip lift. And you got one person on your back, slapping your back and encouraging you. Who is that person? Can I cheat and give two people? Sure. Okay, because I think there's an objectively correct answer to this, and then there's the answer I want to give.

So I think after being at the Lift Hard Live Easy this year, the objectively correct response is Big Scott Dodds. Yep. He was an absolute madman cheering everyone on, even the people he was directly competing against. Just absolute animal. Can't imagine someone being more hype than him. My heart is telling me to go with my niece. She is just a bit of an athletic freak, super good at climbing, super strong for her size, and she's intrigued by physical feats.

So I think having her cheer me on would also be a nearly Scott Dodd size boost. Meanwhile, my little girl today sitting on the couch, she just out of nowhere, throws herself headfirst off the couch, just hits the ground and her knees hit the ground after her face and I was like why did you do that and then she just kind of wind

and crawled in my lap because her knees hurt and then out in the yard she decided she's going to go running across the yard and she ate it so hard poor thing oh my like it was like

if I say Rick Flair flop do you guys know what that is the Rick Flair bump it's like she did that and I laughed. I laughed so hard. I had to hide my face, which also made her laugh,

despite her clearly being hurt, but I guess you saw how hard I was laughing. Yeah, kids falling down is hilarious. My little girl, the reason I brought up is because she likes to climb and she likes being strong and stuff like that, but she's also just uncoordinated.

Well, yeah, see her broken arm from last year. Yeah, doing pretty much what she did today. Just right, just looks at me. and goes, whew, off the couch. Like, what were you doing?

Where were you going? Anyway, gravity didn't catch me. Yeah, just because, you know, the swelger say gravity's a choice, baby. You're not a swelger yet. Like, you don't. Gravity is not your choice right now. Big Kurt, as little or as much do you want to talk about what you do for a living, bud? Yeah, so I work for a fairly large, organic dairy company.

I just have a, like, a desk job. I'm doing a lot of Excel and PowerPoint type stuff. Nothing terribly exciting, but it pays the bills, and I seem to be okay at it, and they haven't fired me yet. Even after, because I think when we did our recap, it was like literally two days after, I think, we had got back from Lift Hard Live Easy, and I know you were kind of nervous about which,

what brand, yeah, Daisy blew up the Massonomics, you know, and where you were featured, gagging on a bunch of cottage cheese and stuff. Did anyone at your office ever see that and comments on it? I have showed it to a few coworkers, yeah. So part of my job is I work with our customers, which would be companies like Target or distributors, you know, I don't sell directly to the people that drink the milk or anything. And I was on a call with them, and they were complaining about all of the cottage cheese shortages.

I may have contributed to that recently. And so he ended up pulling up the video off of Daisy's Instagram and it's like, wait, that's you? He's like, how big of a tub was that? So everyone's gotten a good laugh at it out of it. If my company made cottage cheese and I was like kind of promoting a competitor that may

have been a little bit. Okay, so you guys don't actually. You guys are more. Okay, okay. Yeah, I mean, I was kind of just like hamming it up that I was nervous about it.

Okay, okay, but yeah. It was still funny though. It is still a small world. Yeah. So if my company ever comes out with a cottage cheese, though, I will personally sponsor the next cottage cheese eating contest with our brand. I'm curious what we'll do next year because, like, they don't think we're going to run back a cottage cheese thing.

Like, uh, but some kind of like additive like that's always fun. Like just that one little extra. I'm not saying it was, if anyone had actually puked, it would have been the worst fucking thing ever. Like Garrett almost puking on everyone was going to ruin the night. but that didn't happen thankfully so like what other little it'll be arm wrestling yeah fuck that was it was it was a year one

I kept on talking I was blowing so much smoke up their ass about well I guess my own ass of tug of war knowing that I didn't want to do tug of war but he just kind of kept busting their balls about I would beat him a tug of war and thankfully that one broke a rope out because that would have been very painful to get oh yeah we would have got humbled like that would have been bad

I think I, I think I come up to like Tommy's, like, waste. Like, you would, yeah, you would, you guys have demolish us. All right. Tell us about your lifting journey. Sure. So I've been lifting off and on for quite some time. I probably first started dabbling in high school. So this would have been like 2005, 2006.

My dad had a bowflex in the basement. Yeah. That was kind of the star. Not the dumbbells, listeners, but the actual, like, the resistance machine. The actual original, both likes, kind of a lap, pull-down, but not really. Jim thing. There was a Chuck Norris one, wasn't it? Uh, no, no, he had the total gym, I think.

Okay. But same idea is, like, an all-in-one trainer, except this has, like, bendy bars as the resistance instead of weight. I still image, like, those, like, infomercials and shit as a kid. Oh, yeah. Like, looking back on all this shit, they used to something. Ellis now, but like, and actually being into fitness, it's like, wow, that was some dumb shit. Yeah, so there used to be really good fitness infomercials, and that's one thing I kind of miss with the downfall of cable television is seeing some of those corny infomercials.

But, you know, I'm just a dumb teenager thinking, yeah, if I lift some weights, I'm definitely going to attract all of the girls here. No. You can imagine how not well that worked. Yeah, I was, I mean, I'm still thin, and I need to maintain. that for some of my heart condition stuff. But, you know, entering college, I was like a buck 50 soaking wet. And, but going to college, I had access to like a real gym at that point. Did I have two bo complexes?

What? The college gym had two bo flexes. Yeah, two bo flex. And a thigh master. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, I'm sure like I wasn't doing anything remotely useful at the time, but I, you know, started meeting other people that were lifting, and then I got introduced to T-Nation and the T-Nation forums, and that was kind of like my first awakening of what I'm maybe supposed to be doing, and I was still, I didn't really have any set goal. I wanted to be muscular. I wanted to have a six-pack. I wanted to be strong. I wanted it all, which, you know, as we all know, is a good way to accomplish none of those things.

Yeah. But I was lifting very consistently through college and then in my early kind of adulthood, I guess, after college, got decently strong, you know, at least compared to like a normie, you know, deadlifting over 400 pounds. You know, nothing crazy. I bench two plates at that point. And then I started running into some health issues and kind of needed to. to step away from serious lifting for a while.

And I still would do like some like light dumbbell complexes and stuff. Like I enjoyed lifting. So I would do what I could. But heavy lifting was kind of off the table for me until a couple of years ago. I helped, you know, kind of fully stabilized, started getting back into it. And it was, you know, with everything going on a few years ago, you know, kind of go into commercial. Perfect time to buy a gym, you know. Yeah.

Perfect time to start one. So, and we had no idea, like the, it seems so silly now, but at the time, the thought of centering a home gym around a rack and a barbell never even crossed our mind. So we went to like the local fitness supply store and we got like an all in one home gym, basically like a good bowflex. That probably wasn't cheap. It was probably great. It was not cheap.

It was American-made, though. Oh, that was probably a couple of grand. Yes, we had that, an adjustable bench, and some dumbbells. And that was kind of our setup for a few years. And, you know, at that point, I was maxing out the weight stack on a lot of things. And I was like, do I need to, like, join a gym? What do I do? And it kind of just dawned on me, like, what if I just?

And we had a treadmill as well. And it kind of just dawned on me. It's like, what if we just moved the treadmill into another room and put a rack there? And that would have been, it was around Black Friday last year when we bought a lot of our current home gym stuff. And so, yeah, it got some, got a wall-mounted rack, a barbell, some weights, and been going after it ever since up until the last three weeks when I had surgery. did you want what was the surgery if you want to talk about it sure yeah i've mentioned a few times and probably uh being a bit of a tease here um so i i i've mentioned i was born with a heart condition uh tetrology of philoh so like i'm one of the few people who has heard the word tetrology

before massanomics name dropped it um i learned what that was his last one um so i was born with that had it, you know, mostly repaired as an infant, and then as I got into adulthood and kind of became fully grown, things got a little more complicated. I had an open heart surgery in 2010 to replace my pulmonary valve. And after that, I was experiencing a lot of rhythm irregularities. It's called Sick Sinus Syndrome for any of the medical nerds out there in the community. I know there's a few of them. And so from that, they needed to put a pacemaker in. and pacemakers just require some upkeep. The battery usually lasts about seven years.

And so this go around, I need a new pacemaker. I also needed to replace the wires that go from the pacemaker to the heart. And then I also had another device called an S-I-CD, which is a subcutaneous, oh, God, I don't know, I actually know what I-CD stands for. It's a defibrillator. It would shock me back to life if something went wrong. But my health has improved to the point that I got that removed. Okay.

So I got that removed, got my whole pacemaker system replaced. It was a fairly long surgery, but pretty straightforward. And so, yeah, the recovery isn't terrible, but for six weeks, I can't use my left arm to lift anything over 10 pounds. And I also can't lift that arm above shoulder height. And that's just so that the lead can, like, fully get embedded in the heart. and not tear out and cause me to have a very bad time. So it sounds very scary, but it's somewhat routine.

And, yeah, so I got three more weeks of restrictions before I can start kind of easing my way back into some more serious lifting. Nice. But so it does sound like at least this, like from everything you just said, this wasn't, this was maintenance,

this was upkeep. This wasn't you're having new issues and this is an exploratory. thing. This is all like good things. This is, you know, something. So like every, every seven to 10 years, whatever, you're going to have something like this just to replace a pacemaker, then it sounds like. Yeah. And I have had, I've been averaging more than that. I've had some bad luck. I had one pacemaker, pacemaker get recalled for an issue. I had a, one of my leads got cracked and wasn't working well. So I've had a number of pacemaker replacements above the, the standard one every

seven to 10 years. So I'm fingers crossed, this is the one that actually lasts the full time. Can I ask a follow-up? That might be like, uh, go for it. Okay, so it's more like, so if you're getting your chest cut open multiple times, does, do they end up cutting? Like, do they have to stay a little bit off of where the previous one was? Or are they just cutting right through the original scar tissue, like, time, repetitively cutting in?

So you just end up with like a big lump of scar tissue? How does that work when you have the same wound literally opened and this, retracted and shit. Yeah, they do basically cut through the old scar each time. So it can, it's a, there's definitely a little bit of a buildup of scar tissue, just from having so many surgeries in the same place, but it only really affects me if I am wearing a seatbelt for a long time, like driving from Colorado to Aberdeen, South Dakota, for example. but most

it's like yeah for when that comes up it does I bet there's a workaround like to something like you could get like an ergonomical thing that like has just a little bit of a bump right across your chest like it's bigger on like your shoulders or something or like the side of your breast

or it kind of like humps over. Yeah and they do make seatbelt pads specifically for pacemakers. I usually don't need it though. I probably will buy one before next summer. It sounds like you're going to Aberdeen every now and then it's you might be

a thing. Yeah. For most people the pacemaker is placed between the skin and the peck muscle for me for whatever reason the first one I had put in

was put under the peck muscle and over the ribs. Which it leads to a little bit longer of a recovery for the first one but it's a bit more comfortable for day to day life afterwards. So I'm kind of fortunate

that I went through that now and have it in me a little deeper down just because like a short trip in the car doesn't require a special seatbelt pad and all that mumbo jumbo. So do you not bench press for fear of a bar hitting your chest

and pacemaker and leads and all that? I do bench. There was a long period of time where I didn't do any barbell benching. I would just do like pin presses and just stay like an inch off my chest or something. Yeah. I mean, at the bottom of the range of motion

like it should theoretically not be anywhere close to the pacemaker. The actual issue was with the defibrillator that I recently had removed because there's the device itself which kind of lived under my left arm, kind of on top of the ribs. But there's also a lead that goes along the bottom of the rib cage and then up the sternum so that if I needed it, like a shock would go between the device and the end of the wire, which the heart would be in that path. and there was a spot on the bottom of my sternum

where the lead is in two pieces and it connects right there and that's kind of right where the bar would land for benched so I would have to be very cautious not to just let the bar slam not for like fear of any medical issue just would hurt like a son of a bitch I would bench with a squat pad or something

just to like give that little bit of buffer or something yeah but yeah it sounds like but yeah I don't want to keep dwelling in that I don't want to have to, you know, if this is something you don't want to talk about, but I was just, oh, no, it's fine. I mean, I don't mind talking about it. But I'm very happy to hear that, like, because I'm, we had to try to get you scheduled a couple months ago, and then we had to kind of push it back a little bit just because you weren't sure about your recovery. So I'm glad that it was just maintenance and that it sounds like they're literally taking stuff out that you don't need any more as far as medical devices, which is awesome to hear. Yeah.

Yeah, I, I'm thrilled with where I'm at. I definitely had some pretty rough patches health-wise in the past, but I'm, I mean, my doctor knows I like lifting weights and I compete in grip contests and stuff. I don't know that I'm going to mention a power lifting meat. That'll be my little secret, but I mean, they know I lift heavy for a heart patient. That had to be, especially, like, I'm sure there was a period of time there where you were off your parents' insurance and you might not have had like a good job yet and like insurance and medical and all that. Like, you had to have, I would have been very worried about that as like an early 20-year-old. Like, how do I pay for this? You're not speaking Canadian.

Yeah, we're not speaking Canadian here. Again, we're discriminating against you yet again. But yeah, that actually had a pretty big impact because when I graduated college, this was pre-Obacare. So having a pre-existing condition was pretty scary. There was a lot of pressure for me to get a job immediately, which thankfully I was able to. but I was actually considering going to grad school before I had graduated and just looking at the different universities the first thing I had to check was what was their student health insurance program like

and did it exclude pre-existing conditions? And pretty much the only ones that didn't were in California and Massachusetts at the time and just affording to live in those states on a graduate student's stipend was not an option. Yeah, my one professor always used to say, friends don't let friends go to grad school.

Yeah. I've got a lot of friends to go to grad school. He might have been the one to talk me out of it. Otherwise, yeah, who knows what would have happened.

I might have been successful. Hmm. I mean, you co-host like the second most popular podcast in all of crew. Like, I mean,

that's pretty God. Well, fuck you. We have to be. I mean, there may be some others. It's like, yeah,

I don't know. Yeah, we got some cousin podcasts. people care more about but i don't know i'm pretty i'm pretty proud of ours i i have so i've because i i think i've i've said every now and then i was like we really don't know people listen that often like we you know sometimes we get like one comment or something on instagram and there's other times with like 10 people talking in discord so every now and then i get like a dm of someone just actually you know sharing their appreciation sharing

you're like those are so meaningful and uh they they you know they're always uh you know make me a little sappy i think um maybe this was on purpose is one of my favorite things is when somebody says something in the Discord without any context about the episode so you know

you would have had the I can't do it trying to touch a shoulder no context if you hadn't listened the episode you had no clue and then Ryan like this week

just yells mustard I had mustard on eggs man I don't know I was like I know what that's about that's so funny to me I guess I like out of context jokes speaking about a context jokes tell me about the Shaw classic

Oh, yeah. So I wasn't there for the full event. I kind of was in and out just for the arm lifting contest. Filtering through. What was that? It was a bad office joke about filtering through or whatever. All good. So yeah, I show up. This was, I think it was the Saturday of the Shaw Classic. So the first day of the Pro Strongman show. So there were a lot of people around. The grip contest I did was in the Expo Hall. Um, so I was, I was in there and there were, you know, lots of recognizable folks walking around, you know, Brian Shaw walked, you know, feet away for me at one point. He is a large dude for anyone wondering. Um, but, you know, there are a lot of just like pro strong man hanging out and chatting with people. Um, Lucas Hatton was there, just, you know, kind of hamming it up with folks. Um, I can never say his name. Right. Martine Lise's, uh, was hanging around for a while. Just watching the grip contest. Mitch Hooper was there. So it was really cool just to kind of like see these people that I have, you know,

followed and respect their strength, kind of just hanging out and being very relaxed and just, you know, not like, it, it was nice to see that there wasn't like animosity between competitors. They were all just there having a good time. So I really like seeing that. I didn't spend a ton of time in the expo hall while it was actually going on because I was kind of doing the contest. But the contest itself was great. It was only my second event that I had done.

And I was really proud with how I did. There were three events. The first one was a two-inch Raptor handle, which is kind of like a rolling thunder. It's just like a spinny. And this one is completely smooth. It's made out of plastic, so it's pretty slippery. not a massive PR on that kind of got a shout out from the

event host Ricardo Magni you know each time I was like because it's kind of done in like a knockout format with like they keep adding weight to the bar and like people just drop each round you know so like I'd get out there and be like hey here's Kurt he's the last remaining from his weight class

which didn't even end up being true but it was cool to hear that now did you own the same one because you had mentioned hitting PRs. So, like, being a grip, good grip implants are so different brand to brand and stuff. So I'm curious if you have a spreadsheet where you track, like, I can lift the rolling thunder this much and I can rip the one that you just mentioned that's rolling thunder adjacent, but not rolling thunder, but I know I can lift that much.

I, I don't track them super closely, but leading into an event, I do. I program it kind of like I would a squatter, a deadlift. You know, I track my weights. I try and add a little bit. I have higher volume days. I have days where I'm going for a max single or doing a bunch of singles near my max or something. So I do track the weights closely on implements for an upcoming contest. But generally speaking, I try and stay pretty relaxed about the training.

There are so many different implements that, and your grip recovers so fast that, I train it at least three times a week, pretty much every single week. And I'll just pick one or two implements that sounds fun that day, like maybe something that's round and rolling and maybe something that requires a pinch grip, and then I'll just kind of mess around with those for a while, and then I'll do some more general stuff, like wrist curls. Like heavy behind the back barbell or axle wrist curls, I think is like one of the just best overall grip builders, because it requires like your fingers to bend.

and your wrist to bend. It's like a kind of one-stop shop for grip strength. I started doing the kettlebell rolls. Because they're just easy to do and I have them, right? So I have started because I actually sometimes get self-conscious about my forearms. So I was like, I got to start building these forearms. I started doing those. Forearms and calves are the muscles that are shown the most.

Yeah. Got to give them a little bit of love from time to time. But I just like to have fun with it. And it's really nice. Having a heart condition, like, I don't ever have to be worried about pushing myself on the weights with grip implements because it's always going to be my hands and forearms that give out before a major muscle. So it's not like I'm spiking my blood pressure super high to train. So I can be as competitive as I want with zero health ramifications. So it's really been a good outlet for me.

So how's your 10-wrap double overhand Texas Power Bar deadlift? Yeah, so I actually tested that in Aberdeen. Oh, jeez. I did a one-wrap max double overhand. I hit 375. That was probably near my limit for double overhand. I did a 10-rap at 275. I had more in the tank on that one.

I undershot on that one. But, yeah, I'll need to work back up to that now that my left hand is going to be a little useless for a few months while I build that back up. But with the 10 pound restriction, you can literally, are you, did you just have like an 8 pound dumbbell? Or is like, are you like, are you pushing it right to that 10 pound limit? I do have a 10 pound dumbbell. I'm doing curls. I'm doing tricep kickbacks. I'm doing lateral raises. I'm doing what I can. But it's, are you doing what you can to like, are you doing your normal workout on your right side and then your left side is just behind? Or are you just, are you trying to just do everything with the lighter dumbbells? You don't like get any imbalances or whatever. any more than they would be. Yeah.

So all of my training is very weird right now because all barbell movements are out. Like even a squat, you do have some weight in your left arm. So I can't risk doing that. So I'm doing a, my split right now is right legs grip and just repeat. So on my right day, I do as much as I can with my right arm. I have a cable stack. So, you know, I can kind of rig stuff up. where I'm not super off balance.

You know, I'm still doing like rows and pushes as best as I can. But honestly, just like trying not to let my body rotate when only doing one arm at a time is kind of the limiting factor more so than anything else. So I will be, I can tell I'm losing strength. Even just like the shirt I'm wearing now, I kind of feel like I'm drowning in it versus a few weeks ago. But I'm doing what I can to maintain and to work my right side as best as I can. the science-based folks say that, like, if you can't lift with your left arm, in my case, like continuing to lift with your right does help maintain strength. Okay.

So we'll see. I can tell I'm losing a lot of strength, though, at least in my upper body. I joined the local rec center so I can use, like, the leg press and stuff. Oh, it's smart. Yeah. Just kind of do what I can, but it's, it's only six weeks. Like, it's not the end of the world. Yeah, you'll get right back and you'll kick yourself for even.

questioning yourself. I have a question. Are tricep kickbacks, the Bulgarian split leg squat of the upper body? I can't imagine what else would be the Bulgarian split squat of the upper body. Although tricep kickbacks don't make me want to cry and vomit. Oh, no, I hate those things. I know, yeah, I do a lot of standing skull crushers,

and I think I'm doing them wrong because the weight that I can do is significantly larger than what I have been doing, and I'm not getting any fatigue out of them. So I think I'm doing them wrong to be. honest. There is one thing we're going to talk about, but I haven't decided when to talk about it. So let's talk now. I'm going to tell you a story one time.

So I know that you are, you have been sober for a while. So I'm sorry, but this story is about a time when I was not. Yeah, go for it. Me and my buddy, Luke, at the time, I was living in an apartment in downtown. We decided that we were going to go to the local pub across the street where we spent a lot of our time. And we were going to drink Long Island ice teas. And that was stupid. So we got back to my place, you know, a little after last call, and decided we were going to play Mario 2.

Because both of us were Mario 2 whizzes. No, Mario 3, it was Mario 3. Because I will say with Mario 3, people always say that it looks like I know what's coming, because I'll jump before things are on the screen and stuff like that. And then woke up the next morning and we had beat the game and neither of us remembered doing it. Love it. I love where this conversation is going, too. Yeah. So tell me. On a particular interest of mine. Yes, I do want to hear more about that because I understand that you are a big deal in the Mario world.

That's maybe pushing it to describe me that way. But so anyway, you know, going back to 2019, we move out to Colorado. You know, I left my job at the time and was, you know, in the same. the process of going back to school because I'm an idiot. But I had a lot of free time on my hands when we first got to Colorado. And then 2020 happened. And I continued to have a lot of free time on my hand. And it was leading into that time with everything going on that I started getting some YouTube recommendations on speed running. I'm not quite sure how exactly it found its way to me. but I started watching some old videos from Games Done Quick Events,

which is a charity speed running event. And I would watch some of these things from some of my childhood favorite games. And I just thought this was the coolest thing ever. I mean, objectively, not at all cool, but to me, this spoke to me so much. It's like, these games frustrated me so much as a kid. I struggled so much to beat these games. And here are these people just flying through it, not taking damage, unless they want to and making it look so easy and so fast.

And I was like, you know what? I think I want to try this. And one video I had recently watched at the time was from a channel called Summining Salt, which is probably the biggest content creator for speed running. And it was going through the history of what's called the Mari Hour, which is beating all four 8-bit Mario games plus the Super Nintendo Mario World, and Mario 64 all under an hour. And I just, this just was such a novelty to me.

And I grew up playing most of these games. I didn't have access to the Japanese Mario 2. But for the most part, this was my childhood all compressed into one hour. I'm like, man, I want to do that. And so I still had my old Nintendo entertainment system, the original 8-bit Nintendo. and so I started practicing the first Mario game and I was like hey this is this is harder than it looks

this is a surprising challenge to get through this quickly and I stuck with it for a few weeks and ended up getting like a pretty all right time and like it would have been a good enough time for the Mario hour so I was like okay I'm going to start learning Mario 2 and let me tell you Mario 2 is the

one of the weirdest games especially within the Mario world. I was going to say it's objectively the worst. Oh, that's where you're going to be completely wrong on this one. See, I prefered Mario 3. As noted.

For a casual play-through, I will say Mario 3 is the best the best 2D Mario hands down. No questions asked. Mario 2 got weird. We jump on them and pick them up. Yeah, it's the weird one. You pick up turnips out of the ground, throw them at enemies. None of the enemies

resembled anything from Mario 1. So if you, just a quick aside, like if you ever see a YouTube video about Mario 2, all the comments are going to be like, this is just a re-skin of a Japanese game called dokey dokey panic. Here's the secret people don't know is that after Mario 1 was such a big success, the Mario 1 team started creating prototypes for Mario 2. Mario 1 was one of the first games that had smooth side scrolling, and they're like,

what if we make a vertical game instead of a horizontal game? And so the original idea was that it was going to be like a vertical puzzle game. It was going to be co-op. You were going to have to like stack blocks, climb ladders, jump on enemies, and like do all this stuff. But two things happened. A little game called The Legend of Zelda was brewing. And Shigerramiomoto was tapped on the shoulder to lead that project. So he got pulled off of Mario 2 development.

the other thing that was going on was in Japan, Nintendo released a second 8-bit system called the Famicom Disc System and they needed a Mario title for launch. And the fastest way for them to do that was to basically just make more levels for

Mario 1. And so that's what we know in North America now is the loss levels, but that was the original Mario 2. A few years later, Fuji TV was involved in this big tech expo in Japan. They're like, hey Nintendo, we want a tie-in video game for this. And Nintendo had this Mario 2 prototype sitting on the shelf,

they're like, hey, we can just finish this up and give it to Fuji TV as part of this Tech Expo. And so the game started as Mario 2, became dokey dokey panic. And then when they needed a Mario 2 to release in North America, they took dokey, dokey panic. So it kind of just went full circle on those. So it's kind of a crazy backstory. But anyway, So Mario 2 is the second game I needed to learn to do the Mario Hour, and I just fell in love with this game. I had played it as a kid. I had beat it as a kid. But it's definitely the Black Sheep of the Mario series.

But for whatever reason, trying to play this game quickly is so freaking fun. There are parts where you aren't just going left to right. there are vertical sections, there are parts where you go right to left, there are boss fights, it's just a little bit more, at least to me, interesting than Mario 1. And so I just kept playing it and I kept getting better at it and I kept liking the game even more. And before I know it, I had spent like three years of my life playing this game. I ended up working and doing other stuff as well during this time, but like I spent so much

freaking time playing Mario 2 and kind of being involved in the Mario 2 community and a lot of my closest friends are from that community now and this game is it's weird, it's quirky

but it's super fun and it's I don't know if I'm doing a good job of selling this, but it's one thing I will say is that it has a reputation of kind of being a lesser Mario game because the Japanese Mario 2

is considered to be so difficult. The lost levels, right? Right, the loss levels. I've never even played it through. Yeah, and it's a challenging game, you know, certainly by Mario standards. What a lot of the top players of that game will tell you is that the North American Mario 2

is actually harder to get really good at. So that's, I'm going to go ahead and brag that I got decent at that game instead of the loss loss. But, yeah, it's, you know, it, it was interesting, not just, you know, for the sake of kind of reliving childhood memories, but like, I really grew as a person from that game. Just the frustrations it caused me, caused me to be better at managing my anger. the component of streaming made me way better

with computers and audio video technology I had young nieces and nephews that wanted to watch so I had to learn to not swear which is hard to do in a Mario game yeah and like to this day

I swear less just because I grew accustomed to not being able to swear when I was streaming but yeah and I also learned like some video editing I made a tutorial for speed running the game. You know, I still get like comments on that video and people reaching out thanking me for it. And it's, I just love seeing people improve at things.

And so being a part of that is just one of the coolest things to me is that here's this dumb video I made for how to go fast in an old video game. And people are like, hey, Kurt, I used your tutorial and I got this new time. I'm like, yeah, let's go. Let's go. I just love seeing people improve at things they care about even if it's something as trivial as a video game from 1988

Yeah Now do they consider that a PR Or do they just call it best time? Like what does the terminology in the video game? It's usually PB personal best is the term That a lot of people use So it's a little different I had to readjust to PR land

Going back into a lifting circle PB always makes me cringe It means lead now come on nerd jokes screw both you who am I a big periodic table I got one question

and then I can probably rolling to some games I think we're coming up on some time here so I want to hear about this auto-corrected text you sent your female neighbor oh god

and how it still makes you blush oh my god I need to think of exactly what happened here okay so we had some work done on our what happened

okay so we moved into our new place the garage was like completely unfinished no insulation just like all the studs and everything were visible

um so we had one contractor come in and just like insulate it drywall it just close it up basically nothing fancy um

they did a horrendous job Just like the ceiling was like barely hanging on. It was ready to collapse at any moment. And this wasn't our first not so great interaction with a contractor in Colorado. So we're like, okay, we need to go word of mouth here. And just like solicit advice from people we trust. And so I had texted a neighbor just kind of explaining, we've had some bad luck with previous contractors, do you have any recommendations?

But I use swipe on my phone. I don't actually type out. Don't do that. I just do the swipe. So when you do it, you save a ton of time and most things look fine, but when it gets something wrong, it goes tragically wrong. So instead of telling my neighbor about issues I had with a previous contractor, I told her all about the issues I had with a penis contractor.

Nice. I'm like, yes, this is a neighbor, but it's not like someone I'm chatting with every day. This is probably the main thing they still think about when they see me to this day is that I needed help with a penis contractor. That is great. And what was her response? Did you, she like, she was very cool about it. like she didn't you know try and rub it in or or take it the wrong way she was a good sport about me talking about penis contractors with her but good lord that was that was a that was a doozy

good stuff all right does anything else you see there joey before i hit him with some fmk no i wanted to know about that text too yeah that was that was that was i was holding that one uh all right big kurt uh i had a whole bunch of mario stuff submitted for that, but I don't think I'm going to curveball it back into some grip for your FMK. So, FMK, stall mat gripper by, you know, massonomics, blobs, and then the Thomas Hinch, could be the trainer, or, you know, any variation of just a thick dumbbell, I guess, if you will. Okay.

So FMK, stall mac gripper, blobs, Thomas Hinch. Oh, man. My gut reaction is not something Tanner and Tommy would love hearing. That's all right. They know it's a novelty gift. They literally know it's a, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, yeah. So what I will say is that awkward, thick handles on heavy things is kind of the core of grip strength. So I would probably have to marry Thomas inch dumbbells and or trainers that emulate one.

Blobs are really cool and I got a chance to do a blob run at the Shaw. I enjoyed that. I've been enjoying all. of the antics surrounding the horse stall mat grippers. Oh, I'm really torn on this. I guess that's what you could have more fun with long term. Like what has more legs, you know, because blobs, you got all the different sizes, but stalemate gripper, it's plate loadable, obviously, and it's single and double.

So it's kind of like, you know, where there's no such thing as a double-handed blob. Yeah, you've put me in a tough position here. I probably would have to kill blobs. There are other hinge grip implements that are, you know, wider and, and they cost less to train on that. I mean, like, for sure. A Saxon bar is a very serviceable substitute. It's not identical, but it's good enough.

So, yeah, I'll have to have my fling with the stalemack rubber. Nice. Good answers. That's good stuff. I want to do a second to FMK. I don't like that Keith took this one out. It was silly goose times. He talked about all the,

he kind of, I fairly talked about the video games of these. I'll make it. I'll go quick. Yeah, Keith is not a silly goose. FMK, Princess Peach, towed Luigi.

Oh, okay. I'm marrying, my boy, Luigi. He's got those flappy legs. He's awkward. He's, you know, kind of the weird younger brother. That's me. Let's do the flappy leg thing.

Um, I absolutely despise playing as Princess Peach in Mario 2, so she's my favorite. I'm sorry. I was going to ask that. She's a casually playing the game. She's a fun character, but from a speed run perspective, she's a nightmare. She can go. I never need to play her again, and I'd be content.

You can't speed run the floating lady. So I'm going to have to have sex with Toad. He's known as a Zaddy Todd in the community. There's a meme image of Toad with Human Legs that I implore you to cloud your Google Hearst search history with. Wham! All right. Sexual icon Toad.

Yes. Have you ever, there's actually a lot of these Mount Rushmore's I wanted to get into, so I might have to do two quick ones. Mount Rushmore, Alien Predator, movies, or TV shows. Oh, geez. this one actually right up my alley too so i might actually need to put alien earth

yes on the mount rushmore even after i what it's just what six episodes in at this point it's incredible the last two episodes especially have been absolute bangers yep that i the eye alien i can't wait till they explain that more yeah it's so good um ogy predator obviously has to be on there that's That might be, that would be on my Mount Rushmore of just sci-fi films in general. Okay, I'm going to throw a curveball, and I'm going to put in probably the objectively worst one of these movies on here, and there's a reason.

I'm going to go Alien versus Predator Requiem. No, no, stop it. It's so bad. It is a horrendous movie, but it was one of my first dates with my now white. was seeing that movie in theaters. And she's still married you? She still married me. She's a keeper.

I remember watching that movie and thinking to myself, I don't think they've ever watched a Predator movie ever before they wrote this movie. It's rough. Because doesn't he kill an unarmed guy, I think at some point, which there's a lot of real questionable decision making in that movie. like I actually kind of enjoy the first AVP like it's silly it kind of breaks canon but it's a it's a dumb mindless action flick and I can appreciate that

and we waited R is horrendous but I have to include it we waited so long for AVP that there was no way it wasn't going to do well because every alien and predator fan in the world was waiting for that yeah um how many am I at three already I'm gonna put another contract a virtual one on here. And I'm going to say Prometheus. It's, I like that they took a risk with it and they went with like the philosophical meet your makers, um, kind of like the levels of like

AI humans and then the engineers. Um, it's a visually very beautiful movie. I like the music in it. Um, I, I like that they took a risk. They, they went for it. It didn't end up hitting for most people, but I do enjoy that movie. Did you ever read the Superman versus aliens? I have not. I'm not a big comic book guy, but there are some wild ones out there in the broader predator and alien universe. Yeah, I actually, I really enjoy alien Earth, and I even enjoyed prey. Oh, that's another good one. Yeah. If I didn't actually, if I didn't put an ABP

Requiem on there, pray would be a very good choice. Yeah, that one was like a call back to This is what this should have always been. Predators is pretty good too. I like that one. Is that the animated one, the new one? No, no, that's Predator, Killer of Killers. Predators, plural, is the one where they take a bunch of killers

and drop them on an alien planet. Okay, yeah. That one's surprisingly good. I didn't remember really loving that one, but I rewatch it recently. I was like, this is a decent predator movie. I might have to rewatch that one then because, I completely forgot it existed. It's not as good as prey or the original

Predator, but it's better than Predator 2. I know I've watched it at least twice, but it was like, would have been when it first came out. Yeah, I could go on a long time, but Alien and Predator. I'm such a fucking nerd sometimes. Speaking of being such a fucking nerd

sometimes, as quick as you can, Mount Rushmore, Hans Zimmer Compositions. Oh, oh man. Okay. oh god okay i have to put intercellar on there that's probably my favorite um i've learned a couple songs from there on piano um probably gladiator and pirates of the caribbean i'm just gonna group all of them together as one there are just some bangers on those there's not like to me they're not

like as like beautiful or moving as the interstellar soundtrack but there are some very good songs on both of those um while you're on that subject do you know the lonely island song with michael bolton that's a good one okay so did you ever clue in that he's singing the theme to the pirates of the caribbean when he does i'm not sure i picked up on that i'm going to have to i didn't either i was it just randomly came on and this is the tale of captain jack sparrow yeah it's And then I was like, I haven't watched Pirates of the Caribbean in forever. And that's the scene. Like, that's the intro music to the first movie.

It is. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Like, way to go lonely island. You pulled the wool over my eyes for a decade. Yeah. What's your last one?

Oh, man. Probably Inception. It's a lot of the songs actually sound pretty similar to interstellar songs to me, but they're good. And I can't deny that they're good. I'm kind of shocked you didn't go Dark Night Rises at any point in there. That was, that would probably be my fath. The, like, razor blades on the violin for the Joker theme, like that stuff. You're just like, who does that?

Nothing that good has been done since, oh, what's that guy's name that Mike Patton always covers? It wouldn't take me long to find out. Well, you do that, and I'll hit him with the rest of the affiliates. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got, you know, code unpaid at our. our good friends over at home gymcon, go give Jake some money and get you some home gym con tickets. We got apparel from the Strength Co. I don't know if Grant's back yet, you know, they did a little okay podcasting, so help put some clothes on his kids back and get some

apparel from the Strength Co. And then Big Ashton over at Freedom Fitness Equipment, he's got all that flooring needs for you if you want any kind of non-horse stall mat related flooring. And did you do plate snacks? I did plate snacks. I put my needs. I put my name beside Byrbell Rescue. Yeah, you fucked up. Yeah, I did. It happens. We are not professionals.

I don't. No, I just threw me off because I was like, I swear, I'm having an aneurism. I swear he talks about plate snacks, not Barbell Rescue. And then, yeah, our good friend Kim over Barbell Rescue. Go get your name on that wait list for the Axel Barbell Rescue brush that will probably never make it to market. But, you know, we keep telling him, you know, maybe you'll bring it someday. I got the QA test that at the Lift Hard Live Easy.

You did. You did. I was thinking of Ennio Marconi. I don't know if you are familiar with his stuff he was yeah Mike Patton's obsessed with him and that's ended up how I found out about him and there was one movie he did about

the war in Algeria and just some of that stuff alone is incredible to listen to because you're just like at the time nobody was doing crazy stuff like that so anyway check that out I'm a sucker for a good song in a movie

yep how do you feel about games and you know segments how do you feel about those? Oh, who's this guy? Somebody's got out of the shower. Games and segments are things that align to my interests. All right.

Would, uh, are, you know, do you want to explain unpaid under underrated to your friends and family? Do you want me to take a crack at it? Or would you like, so? Would you like our guest to do it? Yeah. Well, if he wants to unmute and explain the game to him, feel free. Give us a thumbs up. Yeah.

That's a very unique game to unpaid and underrated. they made it up and it is I should know this by now. Nobody wants to be unpaid so that'd be like overrated and then

you know, underrated's good. It's pretty cool. Well said, well said. How did you hurt? Pretty good. And my understanding is that I don't have any druthers but I can ride the line. Do I have that right? there's definitely some asses involved and however however many horses there are I'm not I'm not necessarily sure just so you know this is usually when Tanner starts showing us

bespoke stuff that we can't talk about so you go ahead and play the game while he distracts the hell out of us oh yeah all right big Kurt I'm going to hit you with a handful here so unpaid or underrated what's your feelings about Walter Walter Walter don't you uh isn't that a name for something that's inside of you or was at one point. Oh, okay. That's a callback. I deep dove the personal ID that, you know, you're...

All right, yeah. So this is going to be a clearly unpaid one. So to give a little backstory, so I had mentioned earlier about having the defibrillator kind of just protruding under my arm for a while. I used to bump that on everything. The big one that I would do is leaning into a closet, it. I would bump it on like the side of the wall. And it hurt like a son of a gun each time that I would do that. And so we ended up naming it Walter. Um, recently bid adieu to Walter thankfully. Um, and I'm not sad about that, but that is a definite unpaid. Good deal. I think when I added that earlier, it wasn't, it didn't register that it was the, uh, oh, we just did see something. Dammit, what did we see? Uh, all right. Uh, getting on distracted here.

I know, I know, Kurt, I hope it's not taking away from your experience here, but it is genuinely really funny to me when Tanner does this to us. No, yeah, no, this is exciting. Unpaid or underrated York legacy dumbbells. So not to be confused with OG roundheads that, you know, I built years ago, and then Tanner copied me and built his, you know, his collection after that. And then, you know, you recently acquired a nice little sets. You want to tell us about that little, you know, accusation.

I know acquireization that's not acquisition acquisition yeah acquireization yeah so when I acquireization these York legacy dumbbells so they had popped up down in Colorado Springs which is about an hour south of where I live and I had been keeping an eye on them because the price was reasonable just on a price per pound basis but I knew I had the surgery coming up and I didn't want to have to mess with moving a whole set of dumbbells. My plan originally was once I was fully recovered and didn't have restrictions. I was just going to send the guy a low ball and see if he would take him.

And a week or two ago, he lowered the price to a dollar a pound. And I'm like, these are going to sell. Whether or not it's to someone that cares about York or not, these are going to sell. So I messaged them, let him know, I'll take them. So drove down, picked him up. It's a mostly full set from five to 95s. and they are the York legacy dumbbells, which are kind of their newer iteration.

It has a thicker, nerled handle than the OGs, and the heads are a little thinner and a little wider. But, you know, at first glance, they just look like York dumbbells. So I bought these solely with the intent of chopping them up into blobs, which is kind of sacrilegious for an old york, but since they're legacies and you can still buy them new.

I was like, yeah, I'm just going to do this. As far as unpaid or underrated, I'm probably going to have to go underrated. I think they're similar enough to the OGs that you can get a very good deal on them. If you're not looking to have them as a showpiece, but you just kind of want that classic look and feel

in a dumbbell you use, I think they're a good choice. And then as far as blobs go, you can usually lift one or two sizes, is bigger on the legacies because they're a little thinner. So they can be a good training tool to start working your way up

on the real blobs as well. So yeah, I'll go underrated on this. So you're going to end up chopping them all. I mean, no one wants like a 20 pound fucking blob. So what's your, you're going to keep like the five to 50 or something for your purse?

Like what's your actual end goal? Yeah, I'll probably sell off the light ones. Okay. So you're not going to keep the dumbbells at all then. Like you're not going to do anything. I already have dumbbells. I bought these. I'm probably going to just flip the light ones, like everything under 30s or 40s or something.

I mean, in Denver, prices are a bit higher, so I probably can get like a buck 25 a pound for those. And then the blobs is just a fun project. And then I'll sell a bunch to the local grip folks. And then I might end up taking some to Aberdeen next summer if folks are interested. Nice. All right. I'll hit you with my last one here. Unpaid or underrated.

I want to hear your opinions on aisle seats on planes. Isle seats on planes suck ass. I'm just going to go on record and say it. I think only a 100 and a sub 200 pound man would say that. It sounds great because, yeah, you can spread out your legs. You get all this space. But unless the flight is super long, 90% of the time, there's a beverage cart right next to you. People lining up to go to the bathroom.

like you end up having an invisible barrier between you and the aisle that you just can't use I just get in the shoulder and deal with it like I don't know I just I've been stuck in too knowing that I don't want a bunch of people bumping into me the entire flight I'm going to have to pee I would rather hurling to a ball next to the window and yeah that's I I would yeah I generally he's got his iron his neck trainer on that that is great yeah i normally like i said because i have to pee a hundred times per flight i like the i'll see because i'm not stepping over people that makes sense i being in denver though no flight is ever more than four hours for me in the u.s that's so like if i just pee beforehand

it's like worst case scenario i really need to pee when i when i land so i can kind of just sit tight the whole flight is that me you're tagging me in yeah yeah i'm good all right all right Right. Unpaid or underrated. Made in the USA as a selling point, as mentioned earlier in this podcast. Yeah. So we kind of went through some of my early home gym purchases. I had a lot of Made in America stuff that I had bought from this local fitness supply store. And it was all ass. It was horrendous. It was from a company called Tough Stuff, which went out of business a year or two ago. The bench was not, it was crooked and wobbly and narrow and slippery. And it cost a, freaking fortune. I could have bought anything from Rep or Rogue for less to kind of give you. Yeah, and Rep would have actually had a showroom then, too, in Colorado. I didn't even know they exist.

Do they even have a showroom now? They, no, they, they, they probably moved everything. I'm not sure if they had to do any selling. They don't. I could probably message them like, hey, I'm interested in buying this. Can I take a quick look in your employee gym? They probably would say yes if I did it discreetly. But yeah, they don't have a showroom anymore.

I didn't know they existed at the time. But a lot of the American-made stuff I have bought so far has ended up being stuff that I have gotten rid of because it wasn't very good. And it's come up on the main Big Sister podcast a few times that if you're Canadian, does Made in America mean anything? If you're in Sweden, does Made in America mean anything? I am in America.

So, like, if the manufacturing plant was right down the road for me, it might mean something, but there's no fitness plant near me. I don't live near the Rogue headquarters or the Texas Power Bar headquarters. For me, Rep is buying local, even though they produce overseas. So for me, quality and price and supporting a local company mean a little bit more to me than what country something was made in. So I unpaid. All right. Unpaid or underrated. That's the wrong one I want. Oh my God. I can't figure out what to tap here. Unpaid. Tap that ass. Jeez. Unpaid or underrated. Tell me what this is and what it is. Ace inhibitors. All right. So I don't know exactly what the accuracy.

stands for, but it's a class of heart medications that relaxes your blood vessels and increases circulation. I was on them for a while, and they made me feel like an absolute god. These, I swear, I think within our lifetimes, it's going to be looked, we're going to look at ACE inhibitors, kind of like we do aspirin, where just like you get older, you start take an aspirin as a preventative. It's just the health outcomes from ACE inhibitors are super good for making your heart not have to work quite as hard to get blood flowing. And the side effect list is super, super small for most people.

Like I had zero side effects on them, and that's the case for most people. So I'm definitely going underrated on ACE inhibitors. Now, wouldn't, I wonder if, so, like, what they put in pump and some pre-workouts, like the El Citraline and things like that, I wonder if those do, like, relatively the same thing, because they do increase blood flow. This would be turbocharged. Yeah, yeah, like on steroids or whatever that phrase is that everybody likes to use. Orange juice. Orange juice? Yeah, that's what they're.

Okay. Unpaid or, oh, my God, I hate this app. Unpaid or underrated. pizza with lots of toppings. Okay. So this is a viewpoint I have held before I joined the Macedonomics community is that if a pizza place can't do a plain slice of pizza really well,

all they're doing is hiding their sins. This is an original curt, you know, you know. So, no, I agree. And yeah, I've said that before on this podcast. And even if a place does a good just plain pizza or one topping pizza, even if they can do that really well, doing tons and tons of toppings kind of screws with the cooking

process because I'm from the East Coast. I prefer a New York style pizza 99 times out of 100, and those are cooked at really high heat for a short amount of time. And when you load a ton of toppings on the top, it kind of just screws with how the pizza cooks. Like, you're either going to end up with burnt crust or under warmed toppings. So like to me, a pizza should have no more than three toppings. Yeah. And so me,

like I've said before, pepperoni cheese, green olives. Knock that out of the park and I'll love your pizza forever. And Morgan's like, no, I want like a barbecue chicken, onion,

barbecue sauce, blah, blah, blah. And I was just like, then get a salad. That sounds good. And just go get a salad. That's what you want. You don't want pizza.

You want salad. on bread. That pizza is nice every now and then, though. There's a, is Blaze Pizza a chain, or is it, like, a local thing to me? It's a chain. Okay. So, like, there was, there was one this, like, it was, like, Blaze Cheetah, a Blaze Pizza adjacent. Blaze Cheetos.

So it was, like, there was a mom and pop, Blaze Pizza, if you will, that I used to love. Because I would go and do, like, your, create your own pizza, and it was just better 60. To me, it was, like, it was 37 million percent better than Blaze Pizza, but they went out of business, like, six months ago or something. So then I, I was craving that, like, I want to put nine topping. on the pizza and get it exactly how I want it kind of thing. So I did go to Blaze. And it was okay, but it's just completely different.

But I will say there, I personally think every now and then, like for the most part, yeah, cheese pepper and for sure, that's great. That's pizza. But like, I want like put some bacon and some ham and some barbecue sauce and some Chipotle, something or other, like just all kinds of different goodies. So what was the original thing that I'm rating? I don't want to get it backwards. Pizza with lots of toppings. Lots of toppings. I would definitely be unpated. But to Keith's point, if that's something you're craving, just go with like a deep dish pizza or like a Sicilian or Detroit style because it'll hold up better to a boatload of toppings. But just a regular old pizza.

What about cottage cheese on a pizza? What did you think about that? I haven't, I can't say I've tried it. I'm not opposed. You could probably make a good cold pizza. Like are people familiar with like veggie cold pizzas, right? Like so instead of like all the ranch dressing on it, you could do cottage cheese for the extra protein. That's a keesh.

Is that like a quiche? Oh, like the adding cottage cheese or a veggie pizza. Like a cold veggie pizza. That sounds awful. I don't know. I don't think I've had it in years, but it was definitely something like my, like my aunt and uncle would make it every now and then. And it was, I don't know, it was still like, it was pizza crust with just like a ranch veggie dip and then like veggies and shit on. Oh, I know what you're talking about.

Yeah, yeah. I'm aware of that. Yeah. So like that, but I can see cottage cheese having a place on that time. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know where cottage cheese fits into the mathematics site guys, but I do it in a way, I think they like it still. Oh, yeah. I mean, I have a Costco-sized cottage cheese that I'm working through right now.

I think that was my three. I think you passed unpaid and underrated. Hey, did it. I was worried. You did it. Well, I mean, he left before we got to all the games last time. Well, because we didn't wait two and a half hour. hours.

We're, we're, we're, we are pushing it. We literally just hit two. So let's, uh, no, next 20 minutes. Let's bring this one down. But Kurt, do you have anything you want to hit us with, brother? I do. I have bespoke questions for each of you. Uh-oh.

All right. So we're going to start with you, Joe. Appreciate it. Okay. All right. So this one is inspired by, uh, Luke Stoltman recently becoming the, uh, first person to press the, and I might be saying this wrong, the Ardvorlich Stone. I'm not sure if you're, uh, familiar with that one.

I did. I watched him do it. Fuck guy. That was huge. So I got a two-parter for you. A, what is your Mount Rushmore of natural stone lifts?

And B, what is your own personal one singular bucket list rock lifting feats? I know you're a bit of a natural stone guy. I, yeah, I do love the idea of natural stones,

but I would say I don't really have like a Mount Rushmore of lifts. Because like I don't track that enough. And here in Canada, we don't have anything like there is in the States with like the map of stones to pick up. And I know I've been talking with Bex. She runs the kind of stone lifting page in Canada on Instagram about putting together that kind of map. Because I know there are some. People have been here and like, oh, I'm in Waterloo.

And I'm like, it's an hour away from me. Like, where was my call to come and help you pick up that rock? So, yeah, I guess I have to admit that like I don't have a memorization of all. of the world's stone list. So I don't really have a Mount Rushmore for that one. Because I really only know the famous ones, right? The Hosevels, the Denny, those type of things. Well, there you go.

There's your Mount Rushmore. Yeah. So the other question was, what is my bucket list? Like, my dream? Mm-hmm. I wouldn't, I would not hate to go do and play with the Denny Stones at all. I don't think I can get them. That's way above my max.

but like to be in the presence would be nice. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, those are, I mean, those are some of the only ones I've heard of as well. So I figured I'd, uh, see if, uh, well, I would put Brock the Rock the Rock on there as well. Um, we haven't got a Brock the Rock update in a long time. Now, I wonder if there could be a tandem Brock the Rock Lift. That's probably too big for a singular lifter.

Oh, for sure. Uh, there is, like the Hussifel Stone is more likely. I am more likely to visit that than go to Scotland because I, Iceland's actually really close to Canada and getting there is not expensive at all. And we've always said that, like, after the kids are, during retirement, we're going to Iceland at some point. So it's more likely I'll end up there before Scotland, but, you know, you never know. The world is always changing. Yeah.

Me, I just, like I said, driving down a country road and I'll go, bet I could pick that up. And my wife will go, bet you can't. And then we'll never do it because I'm not going to jump on somebody's, land and risk getting shot. But if you did, you could name it. Yeah. Yeah. If I can get it over my head, I name it.

All right. All right. Big Keith. So this one is inspired both by your recent heroics with the chicken breastfire, as well as the Big Sister podcast, episode 332. It was a Q&A. So I'm kind of stealing from that one. If the no wine cellar was burning down and you,

you only had time to leave with one single item, what would it be? The toilet. Damn. Hmm, it's got to be realistically something I could carry. Like, I'm going to play it like

and, you know, realistically of like, there's certain, like, I'm not going to sit there and get my socket set out and, like, disassemble a rack to carry it up in one piece. It'd have to be something I could kind of. The book that we all signed? Yeah.

Yeah, the flag, sorry, the flag. That is, that might actually be, that is not a horrible answer. That would be in the round mushroom, like, I'm trying to, like, go through systematically since it's something I could, like, I mean, if it was like a financial thing, like, it'd be like, hey, save the most expensive thing. And I'd carry my pair of York deep dish mark plates up, but like, I mean, those would probably survive the fire either way. And that's, that's kind of what my wife said. But yeah, honestly, Joey's might be onto something because that is, I literally tell people if they do anything other than just, sign their name up with a date, I'll fucking punch them in the face because like 30 people have already, actually know, like 50 people have already signed it and like you will ruin it and I'll

fucking murder you. So yeah, I think so I have a, it's a Frenchport banner that says, uh, lift heavy weight with dope people or something along those lines. And I've just like, over the last decade, I've had people sign it. And there's people that might have only signed it more recently, but it's people that have been coming to my gym or been friends with them in the lifting community for a decade. So yeah, that, that, that, that proof of, history, that, like, snapshot of my last 10 years of my life, uh, in the friends I made along the way, literally, right? I, I, I, I really didn't mean to steal that from you.

No, they did. I think I know, I think I know you well enough at this point that, like, that's what I would grab two people. That clicked, yeah. Yeah. I mean, because everything else is like, we have like a, it's all iron and metal. It'll last. Like, they, well, that too.

And I also have like, we have like five and we actually, my wife and I, after the neighbor's fire, we had a whole thing of like, do we have supplemental insurance? What is our house covered full? or, et cetera, and we have enough to replace our house and the gym fucking, like twice, so we're good. Yeah, do you do video tours

of your gym every now and then just for your own personal records? It's been a minute. I don't think I've done a, I mean, as far as like a full walkthrough, there's probably something on a story in the last year, but it's probably been like almost three years

since Gluck came, maybe two and a half year or something like that. For like an insurance purpose, like having an actual catalog of what you have. I mean, he's got spreadsheets. I mean, there are spreadsheets, but you can lie on a spreadsheet, I guess, but, like, there's spreadsheets, and then there's a fucking, a five-year-old Instagram that

every, like, acquisites, acquires a, oh, god-acquisition. Accusition. Accusation. Words are hard, man. I wonder if I'm going to pronounce it better when we start recording at seven, because probably not. Like, we'll be done an hour ago then. That'll be so nice.

You think next week will literally, I'll be asleep this time next week. I'm so excited. Yeah. All right. And then on the flip side of that, is there any single person? purchase you regret the most. The rogue Ohio deadlift bar. I never bought one. I've never owned one of those. I've used it multiple times.

Like something I currently own, probably not because I've gotten, well, the concept rower I have yet to actually get to use functionally because I just, I have such a bad ankle mobility. Every time I use it, I just, I'm in pain. So I need to, I don't know, figure out better shoes or work my ankle mobility. But like, I think all time, my biggest regret was as far as like a single thing I'd think of, it would be starting with one inch plates like 11 years ago or something. And then as far as like an individual bar that just didn't click with me, it was like the squat cambered bar. Probably not as bad as, you know, I don't hate it as much as Tanner hates the spider bar, but it was a useless bar to me as someone who already

owned a Duffalo and a SSB. But I bought it for like 100 bucks on marketplace. And like I sold it for 200 bucks on marketplace during COVID. So it was still a win. But it was for fucking god awfully huge all right I guess I can extend that that one to Joey too I know you don't have quite the the same extensive setup as the NWC but any regrettable purchases

I was actually thinking about that because who was it that asked us I think it was Dan where it was like good bar shitty plates or shitty bar good plates yeah that was a good question and in my head I was just like I am accidentally a weight is weight guy

I don't care about the specifications of things I don't care about the brand of things I like I don't I don't care and um I thought that that was really funny because I was looking around in my gym and I was thinking what if massnomics came to my house and did a gym tour it would a be crazy short and B it would be like literally like I just just have weights. Like, I just, I don't have, like, the most crazy thing I have is probably the Texas

power bar and the 100 pound strength cook plates. Everything else is like neoprene tri-grips and, like, hex dumbbells. Like, I don't have anything that crazy. So I think you're, I think you're right in saying that, like, I don't, because my gym is so small and because I really only try to get what I need or want, I don't have a lot of that. Um, I would say during COVID, I did buy a tricep bar that I think I used twice. That thing was useless. The single side jack. Yeah, yeah.

That thing was useful until I started lifting more than three plates. And then that thing was useless. I don't use my SSB now that I'm doing Strongman. and I think that's on me I think I should use it a bit more Use it for do the bear hug squats Like the Xerchers so it's not really a true Zercher because it's like up on your chest

But like I can't because they The handles don't come off so they're just So what I've been doing well I posted the video I just used the I think it's the open trap bar Oh yeah absolutely that thing's awesome for just like Doing like the the Conan's wheel You're just picking up the trap bar and walking with it Because I probably would have said

trap bar before i started using it for strong man stuff and then i was like wait a minute this is awesome makes sense i just don't like this trap bar because the wheel the handle spin and the handle spinning makes it you have to use straps like i don't care how good your grip is yeah that's you have you have to use straps like no amount of chalk or good grip once you put more than two or three plates on it it's everywhere sorry my wife just scared the crap out of me she naked No, good. I mean, for you guys. So I really don't think I have something that I say,

like, God, I wish I hadn't bought that. Ooh, I do. I have another one. Okay. It's like, I feel bad because one of my buddies, who's also now crew, but I don't think over-listen to this, but he made some Saxon grips with Ab-Matt.

And I don't, it's not, I think the con, I think version two would be a lot better, but I like just like to give him shit because version one, I've had him for like three years, and they still smell like rubber, like horrendously, like nauseatingly. If you get them anywhere close to you

and they're a pain in the ass because they don't fit on my roundheads. So I can only, I don't remember. There's something they don't fit on because like the hole is not big enough. So like V1 of the Saxon grips that my buddy, I feel bad because my buddy made them,

but I hear V2 is significantly better. So make sure you buy V2 if you're getting a pair. I do have a 40 pound kettlebell that I think I got before I had a deadlift platform and before I had a barbell, so I was using it for the most heavy leg days because during COVID. And it's this big, ugly purple thing,

and I think I've picked it up since. Maybe there you go. There's the $80 purchase I wish I didn't make. All right. Fair enough. Both of you pass. Hooray. We did it.

Big Kurt, one more time. Where are they going to find you out? And your YouTube channel. That's with that. Plug all the goodies. Yes. Instagram, Kurt lifts, 1988. that's Kurt with the C

if you want to see any of my old speed running stuff my like Twitch and YouTube username is Kurt's new brand C-U-R-T-S

N-E-W-B-R-A-N-D Yeah you can see Relifting Kurt Celebrate some dorky video game things and having a great time with some great people I also actually

I'm going to plug I just got stickers code unpaid from plate snacks so I have sent some out but you know hit me up with an address or I'll be bringing you know some to crew falls I'm happy to send those out I also have like older stickers from my like Twitch channel and stuff too so if you like video games let me know when you send me your address and I'll send you some of those too it's cool um but yeah yeah that's that's it I think you'll be a little

surprised I think there's going to be and it actually surprises me every time where we have somebody who is like oh it's this niche thing I did and then somebody in the discourse just like nobody i'm totally into that yeah and you're like and everybody's like shocked about it so i think it'll be shocked there's probably i know there there are a few people i've chatted speed running stuff with already that are will be exciting we have a video game chat in the unpaid and underrated discord yeah that's all that's all new age games i don't like i don't like modern gaming yeah you're you know what in there works you know how to like change a subject yeah that's a thing just throw it in there because right now all we're talking about is the arkham series

That's also like, yeah, new age, but it's also eight to ten years old. Big Derek had DMA last week and was like asked, he was basically said, do a, do one of the games or one of the bits in a lightning format to like embrace the speedwalk. Having me speed run the questions. And I was like, I don't know what that means. I don't have any. I was like, I was like, does this kid fucking do that like walk running thing? I was so confused. I was like, I was like, I was so confused on what you're talking about.

And I think I was still confused until you talked about it being video game related. Yeah, just playing games fast. Good deal. Big Joey, where are they going to find yet? Joey underscore Mlesco, M-L-E-C-Z-K-O on Instagram. That's it. All right. We got the Instagram for Unpaid and Underrated at Unpaid and Underrated Podcast, website,

Unpaid Internpodcast.com, where as soon as one of you guys volunteers to go through and edit our entire back catalog with seeing featured parentheses blank, you know, we will definitely get you some stickers and that'll be on your way to put in the work and hit up to YouTube and I am Keith Honey Got 73 on Instagram. More importantly, go follow my Orange Jam, The No Wine Cellar.

Until then, we'll see you next Tuesday. Oh, Tanner was so fucking distracting. That was really funny. We can't even talk about what you show. No, no, there was some good stuff. But like, it's all stuff that's kind of been foreshadowed a little bit in the past. So it'll be cool. But now we know for sure.

It won't be a bad drop. So it'll be good stuff. It will be good stuff. I hope you didn't mind when I was like, hey, can Tanner read out it? Because I think it would be really funny because every time Keith is like, it's original and we created it, I'm just like, I cringe a little. So the fact that Tanner was there. I was like, oh, this is prime opportunity. It's a good bet. My favorite is like the most, most people like butcher it, but they remember no one wants to be unpaid.

So that's overrated. It's like, because I feel like I coined that like two years ago. or whatever, but other than that's like my one contribution to that game is that like that little line. So when other people always remember it, especially Tanner, it really makes me smile. But yeah, that was good. That was fun.

Good time. You were, you lasted longer tonight than he did on the penis contractor. That might be the title, by the way. Yeah, let us know, is that going to be too bad to be the title? Or should we actually? It's fine. I'm not going to be like sending this to any children or anything.

I'm a little worried that it gives away the joke. yeah we don't have to think on that one but do previous contractor but then put like a dick emoji or like i don't know something but something actually naming it previous contractor is actually kind of really funny that's a solid misdirect yeah previous contractor featuring big curt and i was trying to like i was i was waiting for the time to like shoehorn the joke and it being like oh big kurt so you spell it like k urc but i didn't think it would land and i was like kurt with a c yeah yeah k u r c that's actually pretty funny yeah i was waiting and it's like sometimes sometimes i'll like i'll sit on a joke because i

don't they go to land and then fucking it landed so like god damn it hopefully and then this will be and Nate Nate won't put this in like my one funny joke of the night it's just on the fucking cutting room floor of his hard drive that features everything that like never the the lost files of unpaid and underrated one day uh way back in the day before you were around kurt um Chris Daminger was like on the podcast like they were doing a call out episode or something like that and in the discord he said my name is like dillinger but with damn and i went oh dillandam and that's what i've been calling him ever since is dilladam pair play and i think that's a good callback to kurt with a c so k urc yep actually the number

of times i spell my name for people and them to still get it wrong is incredible so interestingly one of the first Kurtz I ever knew was Kurt with a C. It was Curtis, but we always called him Kurt. Yeah. But it was with a C. So the K is actually different to me. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

I think we have, you're the minority with the C of or the Kurt in our group, right? Because it's, you know, Curtis. Yeah, Kurt Locker and then, yeah, new, new Kurt. And then you're new new, new court. And then you're new new new, yeah, there's Kurt with a C, Kurt without a C, and Kurt with a locker. That's funny. That's actually, you need to make that a meme, actually, like with faces like that, that would actually be good.

Challenging anyone that wants to do that, that would be entertaining to see. Definitely, I definitely probably maybe could have gone a little longer, but aliens and predators. Oh, yeah. I can talk, like, be sci-fi movies. Yeah. I talk all day. Yeah, I, we always joke that we're all nerds in some sense, but like alien predator wrestling. and like cannon heavy metal

are those things that unprompted I would go on for hours if I could so I'm sorry we didn't get to explore that a little more but I think we board the shit

out of Keith with that no I enjoy the show I watch the new show I'm up to date with it it's just you know I need to confirm you about a DM uh oh me

me no no no it's Keith uh oh it's from the night that we're um talking about the alien earth episode that i forgot was airing that night got you um so i need you to go back and reread your so i said completely forgot that was i have a penis contractor keith responds i using nini catch it the same day but i has just turned on the tv and there it was telling me to watch i are now which like okay typos happen not no keith used a swipe

that's the problem he's using too much swipe the problem with these typos is that above the box it says edited so at one point it was worse Nate you better leave this in you better put this in the show I have that's a stare let me yeah that is a common thing we have to deal with sometimes I'll get one word wrong maybe two oh yeah I'll have like a solid four sentences that don't make sense yeah and then every once in a while me and Nate will just get one of those from Keith and both of us will just ignore it until he fixes it. Like, we're just

like, neither of us understand your language. We're just going to wait and then he'll fix it like a little later. I don't know what this. I just love that it was edited from something else. Well, in what time? Because like, he doesn't even drink.

No, like, you can't even say that was a drunk text. It was, it was 11.06 at night. I was probably falling asleep when I And then I didn't acknowledge it because there's, yeah, that's bad. Like, I can't even say I was driving and I didn't look at it again. So that's, I don't know what the fuck that is. That's, there's no excuse.

I'll just have to retire from texting. Did I'm done, tapping out. No more. I'm too bad at it now. At least, at least I'm not one of those guys that sends fucking voice memos. Like, if you ever send me a voice memo, I'm not listening to it. No, I'm not listening to it. I will never listen to a voice memo because it's like I'm home with my family, well, my

I'm, this is my, fuck, my whole wife and cats. Yeah, like, I'm not playing a fucking random video or a random thing because you're too lazy to type out fucking two sentences. I'm like, no, thank you. I'm sorry. Big Nate here with a voice memo. Keith, I know that means you can't listen to this. Just turn it off now, but the question you as a listener have now is, did I cut something? Did I include everything they added?

I guess you'll never know what died on the hard drive. and the chopping block of my hard drive what did Keith say? I don't know I tried to read it in the text message it was a mess uh honk

honk Thank you.