Unpaid And Underrated - 124 : The Taste of Poverty (ft. Big Antonio)

Episode Date: September 23, 2025

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Antonio. They dive right into great topics like doors, books, vintage weights, having a youtube channel, and gnomes. Links Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @pinchebecerra (https://www.instagram.com/pinchebecerra/) On YouTube El Pinche Becerra's Gym (https://youtube.com/@elpinchebecerra?si=ob3Zks24PLMm0Hov) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Antonio.

Fucking Brad is here. Okay, did I post this in the wrong chat? No, we've got a million guests. That's Gary. All right. I'm going to get this rolling. I'm going to try to bring some heat tonight. Bring some heat.

All right. Because we're both so refreshed. It's so early. One, two, three. Yeah. Oh, you even. Fucker. All right.

That was my countdown to get ready in my head to psych myself up. I've never had a guest fuck me up before. or unintentionally or not. God damn, that's really funny. Good work, good work, good work. And welcome back to episode 527 of the unpaid and underrated podcast. I'm one of your host, Big Keith, joined as always here by Big Joey. Hey, bring the heat.

Yeah, this is unpaid and underrated. We are a podcast by a crew for crew. we got a special guest this week big antonio how are you doing buddy i am excited to be here nice yeah i can see that welcome welcome um what are you drinking buddy uh you know uh much like big tanner i am a coke zero uh drinker i do have uh it the magnet stuck uh i'm in my office it's usually in the gym but i do have uh i've got some uh weller antique 107 in the drink spotter XL in case I

get a little thirsty. Nice. Nice. Oh, I see it. I see it. Are you going to mix that with the Coke? No, I, that's not a mixing whiskey.

I'm not really a mixer. I love bourbons, but I usually like a drink of meat, drink them straight. So, is that as more of a six? or you're not like taking shots out of a like an expensive glass of whiskey right so

it's more of just you kind of just sip it and do like oh yeah yeah definitely uh you know uh a glen carin or just uh on the rocks glass and so enjoy it yeah I've had whiskey in probably Jesus 20 years so I'm like I don't know drinking some gym beam

I wouldn't want to sip that it's the wrong wrong bourbon to sip yeah I'll have to and someone off to introduce me some good bourbon one of these crew meet So I'll take a sip of it. I've got the, I don't know, I'm still chugging away at the fruity pebbles, liquid death. I'm going to, you know, I think I've got like eight more of those to power through.

Is it the same can from two weeks ago? Nope. Nope. I mean, well, it was until like three minutes ago before I, you know, finally pride it out of the death grips of the strong and silly pint. So, so funny story, you posted about that and I bought some. I found it on Amazon. Yeah, same is the word of the wife got it.

It is as bad as advertised. Although, I did find. I did find if I mix it with a vanilla weight protein, it just makes the shake taste like something I do want to drink, so I've been that way. Yeah, it was very much talked up in the Discord and they sold me on it and then it's like a fucking 4 out of 10.

I don't know, maybe a 5 and a half out of 10. It's not great. See, I love fruit loops and fruity pebbles, but it just that does not sound good. No, it's because I keep I keep thinking, like, man, I just, if that was like, if that was a fair life protein shake and it had that flavor maybe, it kind of like a strawberry like protein shake, like maybe it wouldn't be as goofy, but like, man, it's just not good, just not good, but I'm not one to waste stuff. Yeah, fruity pebbles with water and, uh, I'm all for the struggle, but it is definitely

the taste of poverty. Yeah, I'm, I'm drinking these, uh, cherry cola zins. that was as funny as I thought fuck you you're funny like me not not what's not is that the beautiful you and you shirt that I see you rocking I can always see it is there it is there's that logo

that Tommy made nice that's we only had 2X so I squeezed into a yeah when I people think I'm joking when like I'm like it's limited sizes like I haven't seen the updated one for a few weeks but like everything above 2x was gone and like the common sizes was like under three or four each if that I think so not a not a large plethora large plethora that's a oxymoron isn't it isn't large plethora no but it's it's not an oxymoron because oxymorons are it's a double identical things yeah it's just redundant redundant yeah it's redundancy there we go so large

it's a large giant humongous plethora of a large amount of things yeah yeah that um walking at the uh the brick gym shirt on the comfort colors got me the natural for life on tonight yeah yep yeah nice yep yep yep yep yep it's a good one it's a good one um so i got a whole bunch of stuff here so the hundred meter row i finally got into that i've had i've had the rower for fuck probably a few months now i think i've used it like twice um but i was like well every time i try to do it i'd try to do it like for like five minutes and then i just like get burned out and my feet hurt and this that and the other i'm like well everyone else doing this in like 15, 20 seconds.

I was like, okay, worst it's going to take me as however long. And I was like, I can do that. So I gave it a couple good goes. And I think I got it. And what the fuck did I get? I don't remember. It was not a great score, but it was, uh, I don't know. It was like five seconds off of what a lot of the other people were doing.

But for me, I was pretty happy for being the first time doing it. But that's something I could see myself doing. Like I was, it was, it was, it felt good enough to be like, all right, unless someone wants to pay me $1,000 for the rower, which is like, it's new value. I'm not, because I've had it on marketplace since like a couple weeks after I bought it just to like see if anyone would give me an obnoxious number. And I've gotten several $800 offers. I'm just like, yeah, for $800, I'll keep it. But if you want to throw me $1,000, maybe I'll think about it. But now I'm kind of like, man, I might, I might, I don't know, I'll get a couple more sprints on it and see how it goes. But I'm not sold entirely yet, but it's the first time it's impressed me, I guess. And a little more gym stuff. We did the stall mat gripper. I took it to the commercial gym and honestly, like no one impressed me there. Uh, granted, most people, it was like after a strong man session and no one really tried too hard and, and everyone was like the first time touching it. So figuring out if you're trying to like, like, just do all think, all four fingers and try to like get under the nub or if you're doing like your pointer finger trying to hook grip around a nub. And I don't know.

There wasn't a great success there. But who did have great success was a big Stephanie supporting member. She, whatever was. She had like 91 or 92 pounds on the double hand and was freaking killed it. uh so very impressed with that and then i had to uh i had yet to do my double hand and i could legitimately only get like 10 or 11 pounds more than her so she has a significantly better uh deadlift to stalemate gripper ratio than i do so well done i did find the order one i told myself i'm like i don't need it i'm not and then the last week's episode uh you know

big curt talking about all this grip stuff i uh i i had ordered it so So it's on its way. Nice. That's kind of what got me. It was like, man, I can literally go to the garage and make one. I even did. I made like a half-ass one out of some old bats. And I was like, all right, well, it's not the same.

And everyone, and I can't get on the leader void with this. And it's just like, you literally, they sold camaraderie. Like, they literally, like, boxed up camaraderie and, like, community and sold it to you on a stall mat for 50 bucks. And I was like, well done. Let's see. They had the new drop. I did not get it. taken that yet because, you know, we are recording a little early and I do think pretty much

just got down with life and house stuff. So, uh, I did see what it was. It was the, uh, the new ammonia, the stalemate ammonia. I'm, I'm not really sure, but that's going to smell like. So that is, yeah, if there's any left after home, after crew falls, and maybe I'll pick one up, but like, I don't know, man. I got, if I want to smell stalemats, I'll just, like, lay on my floor. Um, but I do need more ammonia. So I'll probably end up just, like, ordering it next week, out of the blue because I've got like four bottles of ammonia and only one isn't cash but I can't like I can't throw away like obsidian ammonia bottles I just need to like start a collection of dead ones somewhere and just know that they're dead um what else did they have

they had a the new drink spotter light and black as opposed to the tan and then two new rebranded shirts yeah I as you were talking I literally just ordered the peach silly goose bar about one I didn't like I didn't order the blue because I was just I talked myself out of needing a new shirt, but that peach, they talked to me with a peach one on comfort because the original was like, oh, G. It was on comfort, which is kind of what talked me into it. And I did order a size up as well, because I need fat guy shirts. I see a huge shirt. It's going to be a big old shirt. And then what was the, was it a gym shirt in a different color? Was that the fourth item? Yeah. What color? Was it a, oh, was it? You can't say

green. If it's comfort color, you can't call it green. It's like olive are, Army. Yeah, green adjacent. All of Army jungle, everything but green. Mm-hmm. Do you want to do one of yours? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll do both because I only have the two.

Yeah. New job update. Going great. Nice. What a complete 180 from my old lifestyle. I go to work. I'm learning how to use woodworking. I'm building skids.

I'm picking up heavy stuff every day. Giant fucking doors. If you've ever picked up a door, which you probably have, but once you pick up 50 of them over and over and over again, as somebody messaged me today is like, well, at least your GPP is keeping up. And I was like, what the hell is GPP? But I learned that pretty quick. So I'm looking forward to a bench session tomorrow night.

But yeah, it's, it's, I don't think I have smiled leaving work in seven years. and today it was just like I'm covered in sawdust I was doing nothing but like woodworking and building skids and stuff and I'm not forklift certified yet apparently they won't do that so for most people they don't do that for the first 90 days but they uh seeing my first couple of days are going to fast track me because apparently some of the people they've hired have been fucking morons and then and they brought invest that time yeah but they brought me in and like after like the first two days were like, yeah, I think you might be one of the better hires. And I was like, well, good. That's a position. But I would hope so. I'm a 40-year-old adult male. I'm not a drug addict.

I should be able to be able to do this job to its fullest potential. So I'm way happier. Getting up at 5 a.m. has not been a problem for me at all because I set my alarm for 515, but I am still up at 5.5 anyway. Yeah, I got a text from you at like 502. they were there or something. I was like, granted, I think I saw it at 515 when I got up. And I was like, well, you've never beat me to the punch in the morning. I don't think ever No, and actually I beat you to the punch posting the episode. I woke up and saw you hadn't

done it. I was like, oh, I'm going to freak him out and do it. I was like, you fucker. Yeah. It was okay. It was enough work getting Facebook and Discord. And it's like a lot goes out of that because then I got to like I got to copy this from here and I got to copy that picture from this. And I got to remember which fucking picture it was. I got to open up like three goddamn apps or links to... Yeah, but now I have an hour every day in the morning to help you out,

but then I really don't look at my phone for the next eight and a half hours. Didn't it nice? That's kind of... It is. Well, I used to have two phones and I used to have to be on one of them all the time.

And then the Morgan update. So she comes in last night. I'm watching Alien Earth, trying to catch up. That's a whole other ramp because Disney Plus stopped telling me there was new episodes, so I'm three episodes behind.

So I'm trying to, trying to catch up like i watch it on hulu and this pretty much it's very i'm watching it and she comes in she goes can you take your headphones off and i said yeah sure she goes so i'm listening to your podcast have you fuckers never heard of a lichy and i went no of course we haven't that's an awful like i've heard of lichy she was talking about the things with the biggest pit oh a fruit yeah multiple people talked about different fruit yeah maybe have a follow up on that at some point but uh and she's like light she has the biggest fruit to pit radias or whatever ratio pit to fruit yeah yeah and i was like yeah but lightchie are the most disgusting snot

like i don't know what that is i exactly i don't even know how to google he never heard of a lichie and i was like no keith has never heard of a lichie because they're disgusting and awful but i think they would win for pit to fruit ratio and she brought up another one too and i was Like, no, nobody knows what the... She brought up mango, which somebody in the Discord Someone else did say, oh, it looks like a fucking... It looks like a strawberry with herpes. What the fuck?

Yeah, no, Lichy. That's weird. What the fuck is that? It's, it's well, like, they add a lot of the flavors. It looks like garlic inside. Like, it's fucking disgusting. And the texture is genuinely snot. That looks like something out of fucking aliens.

What the fuck is that? But they put a lot of that into, like, juices and sparkling. waters and things like that. God damn, that looks gross. No, it's the worst. I tried one raw once and I said, I'm never, it was like eating an oyster that wasn't alive.

Like, it was awful. Yeah, so, so big ups to a Malav for bringing up Lichy and being confused and nobody has ever heard of it because no, nobody has ever heard of it. It's disgusting.

I want to, I also have to add pit to the Google. I'm trying to like see. You're going to pit to, I want to see like the, oh the whole thing oh wait so the white thing is the fucking yeah oh dude there's nothing to it it's just literally the shell slash skin okay you need to slime around kids yeah that literally like there's a shell and then there's a slime

oh okay okay there's a pit okay there is a pit i mean my wife is from Honduras so i am well uh if only gary ask chat gbt that question for us Gary and get back to us and or anyone in the Discord. Speaking of Gary, I'll do my last section here. Our boy was hit by a car on his bike. He's pretty scratched up. I was messaging with him today to find out how he was doing.

He said he was on his way to urgent care because I think he waited a day or so just to see if it got better. But he's pretty roughed up. So I know you're not here right now, Gary. If you are, I missed you signing in. But we love you. It's literally Brad Rankin. That's fucking Gary. Are you serious?

Did you not know that? Who the fuck is Brad? I hope this isn't a bit, I don't think. I think this is real. Oh my God. Wow. Brad Rankin is Gary? And Ahoy, uh, oh, this.

I thought, I thought he was telling us that was the fruit. I think he's just talking gibberish. There he is. He's shirtless. He's showing us off his cuts. Um, but anyway, hey man. We love you. We hope you get well soon.

Yep. Glad it wasn't worse. Yeah, glad it wasn't worse. Sorry about all the jokes. Crew decided to make under your post. I guess that's our way of dealing with stuff sometimes. Oh, yeah. But know that it comes with love.

Indeed, indeed. Make sure you send all, uh, Jake loves it when people post, uh, bruise updates, especially when they're near your chode. So give them all those. Um, um, I got a little, I would say it kind of a sports and books segment, but mostly books, uh, sports being, fantasy football I'm one and one not doing the best got my ass kicked last week oh well got a lot of shitty players uh books i did start reading and have consumed probably about 69% approximately of uh what the fuck book one reading what is that the hell mary project hail mary hell mary something or other you guys know what i'm talking about i don't fucking remember but it's good no clue tanner's talked about it multiple times it's like the same guy that wrote the martian um i usually steer clear of yeah project hail mary thank you I usually see you're clear of books that aren't in a series because I'm just like, I'm a mass consumer, if you will.

So if I'm going to invest time in a book, I want it to be in a world that is built and I can read like at least minimum a trilogy of. But, you know, it had great reviews. A lot of people were talking about it. So I was like, all right, I'll join in on the fun similar to the horse stall mat. Like, you know, I can actually talk to a handful of people at Krupp. I know at least five people at Kru Falls that are going to be there that have read this book. So conversation piece. So far so good.

Very interesting book. A little science-y, but it's kind of like dumbed-down science-y, so it's still, like, readable for the average person. And I think even, I think a 12-year-old could read it and still get, you know, value out of it. So, apparently, I'm a slightly average 12-year-old. Based on the amount of dick jokes you make? Yeah, probably. Yeah.

Let's see. We can do the, yeah, let's do the Tommy's YouTube video. Antonio, did you get a chance to watch that today. I think it hit around this morning. I did. Uh-huh. His hair was in rare form. I'll say that.

Down, it's flown. Yeah. Although I got to say the title, it was the ultimate minimalist power lifting garage. It's not a minimalist gym. And I'm like, man, when you've been touring the country, I think it gives you a skewed perspective of what gyms are. I'm like, this isn't a minimalist at all.

He's got a free. Come see my gym. It's like a $10,000 gym. That's not minimalist. Come see my gym. Jim, you want minimalist. That's probably it's got to be more than $10,000.

He's probably got a $15,000, Jim. Just in Daisy Chains alone. I did have to add Daisy Chains to my Amazon wish list for Christmas, but like there was to get orange ones, there was like $35 for orange ones

versus like the $12 for the red ones, but like I don't care. I want orange ones. Like it's a present and it's not like it's money out of my pocket. So it's good stuff. I did not get to watch it because like I said,

I got home from work. eight and gone on this. And Gary in the chat there is the audiobook I'm consuming. I haven't read it a physical book in many a year. I only audiobook consume books as I drive or work

because all my downtime is here with you guys. So before we get into rating last week's episode, I do have a small angry rant. Do it. Is it, you know, grind down that Texas power bar nerling? Yes, a little bit. A little bit.

of the nerling for Tommy? Have you guys gotten the ad yet for Chad Powers? I mean, I've seen it. I'm ready to watch it just because it's football and I don't mind him as an actor and it looks not great at all. No, and he's like fucking 40 trying to play a 25-year-old and it's just dumb, but whatever. I've been getting the ad constantly because my Disney Plus is with ads. and a lot of people like to say

we don't make comedy movies anymore because you can't say anything, right? That's what they say. Like, you can't do anything. Comedy movies are failing because of censorship or whatever. This movie is the reason we don't make comedy movies anymore.

This looks so fucking terrible. I won't watch it. I will refuse every aspect of this movie. I'm going to be Mrs. Doubtfire, but for football and then they just give him a hair lip and a mustache and it's still the same guy

what a I can't believe somebody okayed that movie and then somebody paid money to make that movie that looks so bad there's no way it's good I'm from West Virginia

like the west of West Virginia like who is making this shit anyway I've just been so mad about it since the first time I saw it like two days ago that I wanted to bring it up on here. If I'm wrong and the glaze scale

puts it at like above six. It'll probably be a six or a seven. I don't know. There's no way. There's probably not going to be. Is it a show or a movie that I can't remember? I think it's got to be a movie. I thought it was a series because I would like it more as a series. So Matt says it's based off an Eli Manning

character that was relevant a decade ago. That's not a defense. There's like a whole series of like famous quarterbacks getting like fake shit on that like uh elan manning did it fucking jeff jorah goff did it jared jared goff and then uh baker mayfield did it there's been multiple guys they just go and put like a fake nose on and sideburns and go fucking throw throw footballs at like a junior college and like impress people and then be like oh yeah i'm this person instead that's just anatoly he's doing it now oh is that the guy in the gym that actually yeah it's the same stuff but now

they've decided to make a very expensive looking movie based on it and try and call out a comedy. I'm I'm so mad about it because comedy is not doing great right now and this better not be an attempt to try and... I got a good comedy, Rick. Do you have Apple TV?

Yeah. Oh, do you watch the studio with Seth Rogen? It's no. It's fucking hysterical. Is it? Because I don't find him that funny anymore. Well, her, her, her, her, her. Like, I don't... I actually sat at just like, insured. Oh, my God. So, like, I don't know it's it's it's the ensemble if you will like like he's the main and like i don't like some

of it because it's like they did really play into how like just douche everyone in cal you know and fuck well in california but like hollywood etc is but in general i watched it like a couple months ago before it won all the awards it did just recently or maybe it was just seth wanted i don't know if he won as the actor or the producer or the creator i don't know but i was like oh i watched that show it was really good so i laughed a lot it was one of those ones i kind of binged in like a couple nights just sitting on my laptop just powering through. If Super Troopers three doesn't save us,

I'm going to be so mad. That's going to be direct to streaming for sure. Direct to VHS. Yeah, well, it's like, it used to be direct to video. Then it was, I don't think even when it was directed DVD, I think it was still called direct a video. And now it's just direct to streaming, I guess. No, it'll come out and fail because nobody goes to

the movies anymore. Yeah. There's a new Tron coming out, too, and that looks awful. Jared Lettos in it? Yeah, I think I saw a preview for that. It's like, eh. A guy sucks. Like, Tron Morbius? Like, I'm not, it's not Morb in time.

Yeah, he was the worst. That was, the Morbius was very, very bad. It was not entertaining in the slightest. Trabius. Okay, yeah, let's move on. Antonio, tell me all about last week's Masonomics episode and wrap it up with a rating. So, uh, last week. weeks, Massonomics episode was all about whether the commercial gyms are going to fail or close down

anytime soon. I think it was an interesting, you know, take, you know, in conversation for sure, especially, you know, I've got a home gym and I've had a home gym for quite a while. But I don't, I don't know, I don't see, you know, the, I don't see commercial gyms really, you know, closing out anytime, but it is an interesting conversation because I think many of us that have home gyms that are in the home gym life kind of have this view of no one, no, no one's going to be in commercial gyms anymore ever. And I mean, they're still all over the place. So I don't know. I, I, I, I, but. very, very good topic, um, you know, I thought it was a funny and I would give it a five out of five. Five out of five. Five out of five Coke zeros. There you go. Fridge cigarettes. I've used fridge cigarettes so many, like I had to explain to Stephanie what that was and she kind of had the epiphany too of like, I'm having a shitty day. I'd get my Diet Coke and I have that like before feeling. And I'm like, yeah, it was a fridge cigarette. Um, I enjoyed it. It was at, uh,

a lot of similar thoughts like commercial gyms suck but they're not going anywhere um i think if anything it's just gonna thin the herd a little bit at commercial gyms but like they didn't like the whole bit about a commercial gym is you have a thousand members and only fucking 150 go on a regular basis so it's like you're not i don't think gyms are going to feel less crowded because so many people that have memberships don't go anyway so you're really not going to notice that like 1% stop going and spend 10 grand on a gym like i think it's just going to help the home gym community i don't know that it's going to hurt the home uh the commercial gym community i don't know uh the texas power the texas power bar talk uh actually i tanner are

got a follow up did you ever get to the bottom of that is it is there a sixth gen uh sorry is there a seventh gin as i think the buddy caps his website had talked about possibly um that would be intriguing to find out because what are they considering six versus seven and then uh did you see my meme because when he was when he kind of butchered um calling it you're familiar with like the vertical plate storage that like is it's a toaster storage is what it's called and he kept he called it a sandwich and it took him a while he found it didn't take that long to get to the toaster and he knew it was toaster but you know it was still good meme content so i'll go ahead and give it a five out of five uh toasters so i did get i go ahead i was going to say you know

it was interesting because you know you start to kind of uh realize that you are older than you used to be. So I do think it was an interesting conversation where it's like, oh, remember when we're young and we all, we're going to open commercial gyms and now we don't say it anymore. And I'm like, I don't hear people say that. Is it because we're just like old and we realize we're not going to do it and maybe Tanner's living the dream? What I do hear, sorry, I know Joey's ready to go. What I do hear though is I hear people that I go to the commercial gym with that are like, man, I can't wait until I can buy my house and start my own gym, like my own home gym. Like, I hear that, like, significantly more often.

And it might just be as a supplemental gym, too, like, because a lot of people are still going to go to the community gym for the community, but at least in, in my situation where, like, my public gym is, like, a close-knit community. So, yeah, sorry. Go ahead, Joy. No, it's okay. I just think that there's a, there's a bit of an economical barrier to this conversation. and, you know, commercial gyms are never going to go anywhere as long as they offer cheap

memberships because there is, excuse me, you know, I don't want to get too political, but there are certain areas of, you know, cities, and we're all mostly suburban, we're all mostly the entire crew skews to a certain age demographic and a certain wealth demographic. But I think that there are no chance of these going away because people that need them, need them. There's always going to be the YMCA. There's always going to be a planet fitness or a crunch or a world gym where the cost of entry is low. And you can still go and do the things you have to do because those people can't afford home gym. And it's not going to go away. However, the more serious people get, yes, food deserts and things

like that. Well, gym deserts. And yeah, so that's a good comment. So I would say that the people that are able to build home gyms and who take fitness seriously, there's a certain aspect of how serious you take it. Not I'm going today because I have to go and do my cardio. I'm going today. I'm going today so I can do my machines. I'm going today because on my lunch break I can do a circuit. Those people aren't building home gym, right? But they need those commercial gyms. So I think that that was my only problem is that there was no really like recognition of that. And my other problem was there was no definition of what a home gym is. Is Masonomics a home gym or is Masanomics, a boutique gym.

Do you go to a boutique gym? Are you, is there somebody sitting there chewing gum, reading their phone, flipping through, and just making sure you're scanning the right card? Or is it literally like, nobody's there and it's lock and key and it's video surveilled? Or is it just like, you know, Keith's gym? I'm sure if I lived near Keith, I could go to the no wine cellar at any time. Like, I'm fairly certain of that, that he would just be like, like, yo, I'm going to be home this time, this time, come whatever you want.

Is that a commercial gym? No, that's a boutique gym. So I did find a few arguments I had with the entire conversation, bribes the cats, that I had with that entire conversation because I don't think those commercial gyms are going anywhere because of the cost of building a home gym. I got lucky that I came into some money to build my home gym. I got lucky. I'd still be going to a commercial gym.

I do wonder if it would put a strain on those private gyms that in those club gyms like gyms like massonomics gyms like the ones that I got to because those are like, I don't know, like they have all the specialty equipment, but like for a few grand or, you know, for under 10 grand, you can get your combo, if you're a power lever, you can get a combo rack, a cable machine and, you know, whatever, some plates and bar and do everything you want to do to power. So I'm just trying to think if like, I don't know, there's a lot of people, like, Because it all goes back to the seriness.

The serious lifters are the ones that train at home for the most part. And, you know, they could, those guys wouldn't be at Planet Fitness anyway. So it's your nicer gyms that are more geared towards heavier lifting that are losing, I don't know. But are we in such a demographic that we only really know strong man and power lifters? And we don't really cater to bodybuilders and just life fitness people, like lifting for life than health. The people that just want to tone. which that could be like 90% of the gym population. We're just,

we ignore the, we literally just ignore those people because they're not in our like human sphere. So I think that would be my argument about that or against that or for that. Either one of those is, because I think they ultimately argued it's not going away. It's just going to change.

Yeah. And at home gyms aren't going anywhere. Home gyms aren't going anywhere because it's more accessible to people in a certain bracket. And I keep growing just because of the whole, like, how many more homeowners are going to get a year? Like, I mean, you're going to grow at that rate, but it's, I feel like homeowners are less now than it has been in most of our life. Yeah, new homeowners because I couldn't afford to buy my house right now, probably. And if I did it, my mortgage would be triple if I had to get today's interest rate in today's home value.

And then there was the conversation of, well, people are building homes around their gym. Great. How much are they using them? Right. Like, you might have a home gym, but you use it. once a week and your peloton hold your clothes while you're not wearing them like there's still that too so all in all still love the episode love the conversation uh the juggerna a i conversation was really interesting as well so i'm going to give that five at a five uh guys in fingerless gloves taking up five machines at a time doing uh accessory sets and in your way constantly nice uh well antonia before we uh have joey hit us with some ad reads is there anything that you

missed in general, is anything that we missed in general topics that, you know, you're chomping at the bit to talk about? I don't think so. Nothing, nothing big in massonomics world. All right, cool beans. Then, well, we'll let Joey pay some bills here with a little ad read, actually.

Huh? You can do a little ad reads, bud. Okay. So, uh, code unpaid. Somebody ordered, I think, today from Obsidian. Nice. And I think Travis is still on vacation, so. Calm down over there.

But also, keep using code unpaid at Obsidian for your ammonia. At plate snacks as well for your stickers, your banners, and of course your plate snacks. I haven't seen an unpaid and underrated plate yet. Just putting that out there. And belt fed strength. Chris out, help us out. Well, actually, it doesn't help us out. That one is strictly for Chris and crew.

Yeah, and only crew. Don't share that one with anybody carp again, please. more to come next week Whomp Womp Still love you though bud Yeah

Use code unpaid All those guys Show support for the crew All right Antonio do you got that Ode to Massonomics You wanted to hit us with You know what

With all of the You know Chat GTT talk I left it up To the robot So I said You know what I'm going to be

A guest on the the unpaid and underrated and I asked I said hey so what are the differences so per chat GTP

Masonomics Tommy and Tanner the podcast equivalent of heavy squads slow deliberate and guaranteed to lead you questioning your life choices the next day

Tommy is like the Excel spreadsheet of the duo, organized, reliable, but still somehow confusing if you stare too long. He's the human chalk pole, always there, always messy, and nobody's quite sure how much is actually needed. Together, they managed to talk about lifting without ever actually talking about lifting. It's not. But wait, unpaid and underrated.

shit. The podcast equivalent of energy drinks slightly chaotic, questionably healthy, and best in small doses. Keith brings the unpaid energy. He's the guy who would be happy, who

will happily work for free as long as you give him a cool sticker. Joey is the underrated half, mostly because no one's quite sure if he's actually on the show until he laughs in the background. together yeah what the fuck

he's shit on all four of us so bad together they could out talk massonomics on tangents but only given enough gas station snacks so the comparison it says massanomics is like dad humor with a barbell

unpaid and underrated is like a drunk uncle humor with a microphone Tammy and Tonner Tommy and Connor, yes. I love when we do that. And I can clap and get animated because it's only 7.45. Tommy and Tanner, lift, Keith and Joey lift vibes.

Both podcasts will make you laugh, but only one will make you consider buying a $35 t-shirt you don't need. That was, oh, they lift weights and we lift vibes. I dig that. That's a, someone to make that, put that one on a shirt. we lift the vibes I might also need a shirt that says I'm not really here till I laugh in the background Like what the fuck

Well apparently I bring unpaid energy So like that's That's not cool That's shit Can you can you copy and paste that To the unpaid underrated mask not or Instagram If you already closed it Yeah I think we need a transcript of that

Because that's funny You might have to do it might We were laughing a bit too hard for that It's probably going to end up being the cut in the pace into like 10 different chunks because you can only do so many... You're a chunk. Just to e-message it to Keith. Yeah.

Oh, that works. All right. Do we actually want to kick people off or we don't let them listen in? We always say that, but we actually... Well, see, the thing about kicking people off is it's hard and a lot of work. And I'm not really here because I haven't been laughing in the background, so I'm not really going to do that. I mean, they're there.

And magic, they're all gone. And then, uh, let's see. Uh, big Antonio. Is that you, buddy? You over there? I'm here coming in. Well, welcome to the unpaid and underrated podcast. We're glad to have you, buddy. Welcome, welcome. Um, going to go ahead and give it your origin story of massonomics. So I don't know. I thought about it because I, I'm recent, uh, I'm, you know, crew member by 27, but, uh, I've been listening for a long time. So, so to give some context, you know, born and raised in Chicago, in like 2018, I got located, you know, for work, uh, to the Twin Cities. And, um, I've always had a home gym and

kind of, you know, watch YouTube and whatever the algorithm throws at me. And I remember specifically there was an episode, uh, and I should have done my homework, found which one it was. But, uh, they were talking about whipping shitties. Yeah. They were shocked that nobody knows, knew what that meant and I was what are me talking about but because I was recently you know transplanted to the Twin Cities area I went to work

the next day and I'm like what is whipping a shitty and everyone's like well I'm still on donuts and I was like it's it's a thing and being a Chicago you know native you know I consider myself a good old midwesterner

so and they're like yeah whipping shitties is a midwestern thing I'm like, no, it's not. So anyway, that's kind of the earliest memory of it kind of grabbed me. And for a long time, just kind of, you know, watched and followed along. And it wasn't until I actually became a certified gym first and then kind of joined the crew. Because I think being a certified training facility opened up the, oh, there's more to this.

So anyway, a little gateway drug there. yeah awesome awesome uh so just so people know uh who they're listening to uh name discord all that jazz instagram etc uh yeah so uh i am uh big antonio antonio basera uh on instagram it is pinche bcerra and uh i do have a youtube channel that i kind of sort of make videos whenever i should make in a video uh so it is el pinche bice besei so it is el pince besei Sarah's gym at El Finche Pesera. You want to spell El Pinch? Come on, man.

It's Spanish. It sounds like it spells. P-I-N-C-H-E-R-A. Yeah, it's not a caught that. It's one of those, it's, it's, uh, being that is in Spanish, uh, oh, I'll fuck myself. It's kind of catch all terms. It, it's kind of, depending on, you know, what dialects, right? It's, you know, it's like the darn or the fucking.

So you could say it's El Pinché. It could be like, if I call you El Pinchie Keith, you know, fucking Keith. That's me. So it's, and I've had it. I've kind of gone with a variant in that for a long time. It used to be my original Xbox gamer tag, El Pinsche Viserra. Then eventually my son inherited, you know. the video games and you know the gamer tag but uh uh i will go on a small you know funny

tangent because uh he was uh you know he he took over the xbox and and was using it and one of the moms called called my wife and uh she was like uh also you know kind of Hispanic uh overprotective mother and she was like like that our sons play video games together but could you change your gamer tag and we were like is this lady serious so anyway it is el pinche

so like if it's not Spanish you didn't say what it is well it's it depends the severity of what they consider it to be a swear word depends on you know what part of either central America Mexico

for some people you know we say pinche like it's you know that darn and then for some people it's like you know so it's it's more of an adjective okay yeah like if you say tyber knack up here in canada like it's okay i get it yeah it's a bit like tabernac uh so you had mentioned growing up in chicago and then in minneapolis for a while where are you at now then uh i'm i'm back in illinois so i'm a call center manager, so that's what took me to, you know, had the opportunity to take over a role in the Twin Cities area. And my wife was like, all right, let's, let's, let's do this. And then COVID

hits. So, you know, the call center is virtual. So, you know, now I, you know, I work from home. And we were able to move back. And I always say I am one of those, I grew up in Chicago, so I'm one of those Chicago snobs where a lot of the people in the suburbs say they're from Chicago, but it's like, you're not from Chicago, you're from a suburb. Like, Chicago is Chicago, and the verbs are the burbs. So I'm about 45 minutes north of O'Hare Airport. Gotcha. And they're many a time.

Yeah, I flew over that a bunch of times. Yeah, I'm technically kind of the halfway point. I'm about 45 minutes from Milwaukee or 45 minutes from Chicago, so I'm kind of right in in the middle. It's got to help for marketplace deals. Oh, I definitely. Oh, we'll get to that. We'll get to that.

I heard he loves Facebook Marketplace. Yeah, I saw that. All right. That did maybe think, like, Huck Finn doesn't live near Chicago anymore, but he's in like an hour and a half or something, but Tommy and Tanner specifically likes to give him shit, saying he's from Chicago because he pisses him off,

and it's hysterical. I always get a kick out of that when he rubs, that one in um all right so relatively new um you know if you've been following a bunch of people on instagram watching the youtube videos watching like recaps the lift hard live easy crew falls etc you've bound to see some merch that you're like fuck that looks awesome i want that tell me that one thing that you wish you would uh been able to get that you've got on the website and it's just not there i don't know that i found i mean i think it's all cool but because the the current merch is kind of cool i'm just like you know kind of buying what's out there and and kind of seeing as things

go out of print um uh i will say you know some of the um uh some of the older i like the shorts and i didn't like a lot of the current shorts so you know some of the some of the lift shorts looked cool like i should have got some oh so you wish you had a new pair of live shorts then so we'll take that as your answer so yeah yeah the shorts are not available so that will be your answer that I'll give you. And you already said your Hall of Fame status. Or no, you didn't. You already said your supporting membership number.

So what is the Hall of Fame status? Not really sure. I've got, I mean, I'm going to get to the 10 orders soon just because I am a degenerate shopper. I probably got seven orders already. So I'm pretty close to the 10. Um, I did go to, I know it's not, you know, on, on the, um, on the Hall of Fame card, but I did go to home gym con. I am going to go to Crew Falls. Nice. Okay, cool. So, so, so I did, uh, I did book my room with the river view. So that. Oh, yeah. Got that extra, extra $40 a night just for that. It was nine bucks. Nine bucks to see. The hotel, I had to go Airbnb this year. The hotel was it going to be like two 10 a night or something, I think, or whatever the, I don't know what it was, but.

You know, wouldn't she? It's going to be like 500 bucks. But I did, I did, I, before I booked it, I told my wife, I'm like, hey, I go to Sioux Falls in December. And without skipping a beat, she's like, let's do it. Oh, wow. The old lady's coming. There you go. Very few.

That is definitely more on the rarity of people getting their spouse to come. That is, uh, but it does help. No, yeah. Like, it's one of those things where I, when I went to the Arnold for the first time, and Morgan came with us and Steve and Sandy were there, I think. And it was like, she finally saw what it was I was doing. I see what you're in. And it just makes what we're doing here mean a little more to the people kind of on that one outside Ed.

Right? So it's like, when I'm like, well, I got to get on my podcast or I got to order this shirt or I got to go and meet a crew member, if they've never seen how happy it makes you. They're kind of just like, oh, this again. But then when they see it and they're just like, oh, this is like his thing now or her thing now. Yeah, that's awesome. It's amazing she's coming. Yeah.

And a funny story recently with her because she is more of the social butterfly. We are opposites. I mean, I love hanging out and meeting folks, but I'm more laid back and just snarky. And that's just who I am. but recently I've been doing some sticker trades and her seeing me open these envelopes like enthusiasm and excitement and she's like which one of your little penthouse

it's not what it is but it kind of is though it brings you that much excitement to see put stickers on my gym equipment side note Stephanie always asked me, hey, who's on the podcast tonight? And it's to the point now where it's like, I have to go through like such levels to explain who it is sometimes because

we've like exhausted so many people that have like we've already hung out with and done stuff with. They're like, we're getting into newer crew, like a lot of newer crew too. So it's like, you know, we're still growing. Like they're, you know, it's just more of a side thing. It's just like, sometimes it's for me it's like, yeah, you know, he went to home gym

gym car. I've talked to him like three times. Yeah, we get about the podcast. It'd be a good tab. You know, but it's a blast because like this will help I think if anything, it's, it's almost a bonus for you newer guys to be on the podcast because now there's going to be like this, you know, sample of like this is, you know, the 50 people that regularly listen and go to do stuff and it's like they're going to know who you are now. Sometimes it takes people a couple years to get on. So, you know, I appreciate everyone. I wonder what that diagram looks like. The Venn diagram of the people that show up to crew events and the people that listen to unpaid underrated.

I bet that's a huge overlap. Yeah. There's a bigger overlap for our people that are. guest because there's definitely guests that don't listen or like listen periodically and like don't regular listeners but uh but i i think if you're going to an event like if you're going to crew falls you're probably listening right now yeah like i i think that's seven it's not 90 percent but it's more than 60 percent so 69 is where you're going yeah yeah yeah no i wasn't it's probably it's honestly it's probably closer to 75 but 69 sound i mean it makes us sound

worse technically. But, like, if 60, 69 is probably pretty accurate. And if they don't listen to every episode, they're listening to at least an episode a month or like trying to catch up, you know, because I threw that, you know, thing up on Discord, uh, the poll. A lot of times, too, it's like to just like figure out who I want to approach next. Because if you're not listening, if you're telling me, you don't listen. Like, I'm not approaching you necessarily. So, uh, but then there's like surprise people like surprise me. Like, like, they'll be like, no, dude, I've listened to every episode for the last six months. I was like, okay, you've never commented on. Instagram or Discord once.

So how do I fucking know that? Like, that's awesome. I'm so happy. Like, let's be friends now. Like, interact with us. Like, tell me this. Be my friend. It's like,

and I will love him and squeeze him and call him, George. You said you're a CDF. What's your gym name? It is of Inche of the Sarah's gym. Straightforward. So normally we would get into some more of the standard questions. But this one has. been driving me wild.

Gnomes, gnomes. What the fuck? Tell me about those gnomes. So it started when we, you know, we're brick and mortar call center where I don't even remember the first gnome, but I must have acquired one. And then at some point, people are like, oh, you're the gnome guy.

And then they bring you gnomes. And, you know, this is not even all of us. um i have like been in the basement that is literally full of these gnomes so uh i display them more because uh like i mentioned right uh i'm a call center manager so i do a lot of conference calls and someone could be awkward just because you don't really know people and you're talking about you know nonsense um business stuff and it's just a nice breaker because you get people who are like oh my god that's awesome and then you get people who are freaked out like what are those things and

every way it kind of gives you a segue to just start some banter. I'm not freaked out but I'm overwhelmed and I think maybe we put this out to Nate Keith I think this would be really funny if on this thumbnail we're all gnomes

I think that would be really interesting and I'll text it to him when I remember because I think that would be very there's so many gnomes behind him you guys you guys obviously can't see this Unless you're listening live. I thought that was just like a collage.

Like a tapestry. It's like I had blinders on. That's under 50, but over 30 gnomes for sure behind him. So for the four people listening live, they can see it. But yeah, definitely Nate, I think we all need to be gnomes on this thumbnail. All right. So when you sent out the questionnaire, how'd that go? You had to ask people to, you know, tell all your dirty secrets.

like what it was for and all that. I would get a kick out of people to kind of explaining that to me. Yeah, I think just because I am kind of unfiltered, people were like, oh, okay, this is a weird thing you're doing. Cool. Fucking weird. Yeah, yeah. So.

Good stuff. It's not as like, because I've heard enough of these where they're like, well, and I try to explain. And those that folded out were like, oh he's just doing something here you go that works I mean it is such a self-explanatory like thing once they do get it it's pretty

if I do need to ask I'll rant briefly like I need to DM Nate and be like all right we need to put something in there because everyone when they don't answer when they don't want to answer something they put in a or they put a dash or they put a they do everything except just leave a blank which would

like make our life easier like anytime you just put a sentence there or doing anything so like either answer the question or leave it blank, like, telling us N.A. and stuff like that, it makes it so much harder because then we've got to go through and delete all those little, like, tidbits. I just take half an hour before everyone to do that. I know, but if, like, if, if Nate can put one extra bold sentence that, oh, granted, half

people will ignore it and not read it, but if it catches, like, 20% of the extra bullshit, like, of blankness that's not blank, so, I don't know, Keith rant over. You're familiar with the game We could like to call Lease Fun Most Fun here Are you familiar with that? Have you seen this? Have you heard about this? I think I've seen it.

Do you know how one would play Lease Fun Most Fun? I mean, you say what's least fun and what's most fun There you go. I mean, it seems harder than that for some people, so that works for me. Lease fun, most fun. Tell me about spotting and loading at Home GymCon. Was the least fun and the most fun thing about it? And how did that come to be?

my god the i mean the the the the the the least fun is just man this it's some heavy ass weight yeah uh it just i mean uh for for those that think that these events come together and you just show up uh you know that and it gave me an appreciation uh you know for it um but i would say the most fun is just you know meeting the the the people i mean uh you know big curts as a Kurt Locker is a awesome dude, got to connect and meet with him, and you know, got to meet some crew members.

I mean, you know, Derek, big Derek, took me on a, you know, him being more of a social butterfly. I think we took pictures with literally everyone at home, Jim Con, because he's like, I was like, say pictures.

So definitely, you know, the camaraderie was, you know, the, you know, the most fun. But I actually had a buddy who does powerlifting. And, you know, he mentioned that, you know, Kurt needed some help. And I reached out to Kurt on Instagram, having never met him. I wasn't true yet.

I just said, hey, you know what? If you need some help, I'm willing to, you know, help out. And my son actually, you know, went with me. my son's 17 and also you know likes to work out in the gym so you know we made the trip to kentucky and uh you know moved how long what drive was that like five hours oh yeah it's not bad i wish i wish i had a five hour to save me like a thousand dollars if i had a five hundred i think i'll think i'll drive next year but it's going to suck it's still midwest right yeah i don't know it's i don't think louisville isn't that was that was

literally me just poking the bear's okay because i'm like And Kentucky's got to be like southeast. Yeah. Well, I'll give you Indiana, but I don't know about it. Yeah. Well, it's from West Virginia, the westest of the West Virginia. All right. Joey's got something.

Don't mad about that movie. Yeah. Have you heard the hype person question? Have you seen this? Have you heard about this? I think so. Okay, so you're about to go for a big lift. Don't need to know the lift.

Just picture it. Mm-hmm. And you got one person that's going to hype you up to make you up to make a make sure you hit the lift you're going for. Who's that person? Oh, C.T. Fletcher. No, no, no question. You know, I, I, if you see my gym, it's, I love just old.

It's still your motherfucking set. Yeah, old Ivanko iron is just what I loved. And when I started going to a commercial gym in the early 90s, being from Chicago, It was just a grimy old ballys where these big dudes would just swear at you to hurry the fuck up and lift. And there's something about that that motivates me. Like I love people who are like, Kumbaya, you got it, buddy. Uh-uh. I need someone to slap me on the back and say lift that shit and just get it done.

So it would definitely, without a doubt, be Mr. C.T. Fletcher. Good answer. Nice. Yeah, he's got quite the voice. I mean, and that would make sense that's your answer because, I mean, one of the submitted answers for you on your living history was a ridiculous bench, which CT's got a pretty big bench. And then, you know, brace yourself, poverty squat. How does that make you feel? It's true.

Yeah. Well, what does numbers look like? Honestly, you know, bench and dead, or, and I don't think I have a, to be fair, I don't think that I have a big bench. I think sometimes people, people that lift and then people that don't lift. I think right now I'm like a 3, 335 bench, which is, it's solid, but I'm a big fat dude. So 315 is a bus. Anything below 315 and I'm a lady.

Hi, my name's Susie because I'm a lady. Squat and deadlift, I don't really go heavier typically than 315. just because the risk reward. Like, I don't compete. And, you know, I work out alone in my basement. So I kind of cap myself out to that. So, you know, I've been deadlifting a little. 315 for reps, just to clarify.

Okay, yeah. I was going to say, like, hold on here. Recently, I've been deadlifting a little more seriously, like, still not really heavier than 315, but really kind of watching my form. so eventually I could see myself starting to push but yeah would you compare I mean when when when you bench you know what 335 people think your your squat your deadlift gotta be at the 500s and I'm like no it's actually so he's going for the Randy award this year yeah yeah although I will say yesterday I I was benching and it wasn't even that heavy it was

working my way up. So it was just 315. Usually if 315 feels heavy, I'm done. And if it feels light, you know, I'll add a little more on. And I literally, it sounded like a piece of paper tearing. So I bailed on it. I ended up going to the urgent care. And they did x-rays. And they said it's fine. But then they put me in an MRI. And that's going to take a couple days to get the results um like yesterday i is it bruising now because you would be bruising and like really bad if you tore something right oh it's not so i think it fingers crossed yeah but it might be rotator or something you're gonna get your uh Cadillac bar to bench with going forward yeah so uh um but again right you lift and you get hurt and it's just part of the deal so we'll hold

especially bars to work around it that's why you have yeah yeah and i've never I've never, to be fair, I've never been in an MRI. So, so that was an interesting experience. I think I did one recently. Did they give you the stuff that makes you feel like you, like, pissed and shit your pants, kind of sort of? Like, you get that little warm tingling feeling in your crotch? No, they didn't give me anything.

They just, like, jack me in. That was just you. That was the contrast, I think. Because I had an MRI on my knee, and they were just, like, get naked and lay down and take off your metal. It was, it's when they push the contrast. to give you that weird feeling. They're looking for something different, I think, at that point. Yeah.

Yeah. So although the funny part is she gives me this whole speech on, do not move. If you move, I'm going to have to redo these. And then they stuff my big ass. And if this is a 2X, that's got to be a medium. This thing. And when she slid me in, I'm like, I can't, if something goes wrong,

I can't move if I wanted to. like she spent so much time telling me not to move and then stuffed me literally in a tiny tube so we'll uh i i will keep everyone posted but uh you know you figure it out get injured and uh work around it made my shoulder hurt just talking about it i i was using a nail gun for the first time at work and it was brand new so like i got to use the old one for like two minutes and then they got the new one in and the new one completely different and the trigger was probably a lot

more pressure to engage. Like yeah so I was like sure I'll use a nail gun for the first time in my life my shoulder was on fire on fire and I was like and I was going to be like I've got gym muscle right like that's that's obvious the one guy even pointed it out because I went to pick up a door and when I lost

control I caught it and he was like you're clearly strong Like, that was obviously a strong move. But did you know if you just cradle it in your arm, that won't happen? Like, they had to give me, like, these, like, hints on how to handle these big things. I thought that was really funny. But anyway, my shoulders also fucked today.

So tell me about your vintage weight thing, because that's a thing people here like to talk about. Do you have a wall? Do you have a wall of vintage wades? No, that's another thing. Just because, I mean, I know the Ephron collections, you know, I'm not too far from, you know, AP, one of the collectors who just, like old Chicago iron. Like, I've seen collections. And I'm more of, I like what I like. So, I mean, most of my stuff's just, you know, rusty old Ivanko.

I don't like cleaning stuff up too much. So to me, I don't consider Ivanko really, you know, vintage. um it's more just kind of old pig iron but uh i do have some roundheads uh i i just have the one to 12 so you know i i got the six and nines yeah yeah yeah yeah those are those are the rare ones those are the ones you actually have to pay like two three hundred dollars a pair of four i got i got a nine in a trade um so you know uh i actually drove to ohio and this is gonna a lot of the vintage weight people, but I bought a pair of 100 roundheads. That's why I went. Blobbed them. Yeah, yeah, I did. I mean, that's $1,000 right there.

Yeah, that's why I wanted them. So, and then I ended up getting really cheap some, some Captain America Oh That's uh Yeah yeah The fuck people want to sell this for like four grand a pair or something stupid Yeah yeah so so the dude saw that I had some of those and it was one of those you want this you got some stuff Come on over we'll make a deal

It was really cool and So as part of the stuff that he had because I bought the roundheads And then I had those for true trade and he's like hey look around this is all the stuff that's available so i did get a single nine as part of a trade and and some other stuff so uh and i had no idea at that point that the nines were freaking 500 here so i did i did pony up for the other one you found a single yeah i had to buy paid 200 dollars for that single or every bit of it yeah yeah so but again i don't i don't know that i consider that i have uh you know i've got like some jack

and, you know, down and dirty, ugly, you know, plates. And I think I've got some BFCO. One inch Jackson's or two inch Jackson? Well, it's one. Oh, is it the weird 1.5 that only fits a certain bar so you don't use it or anything? No, it's somebody boarded out to two. I think it's a 50 pound. Gosh.

And really just they're too ugly to sell. I mean, I've sold most of, you know, It's one of those things where my gym, it's got stuff that I like. If I like it, if I enjoy it, I keep it. If not, I sell it and buy something that I do want. So, yeah. Do you have any sellers or more so on anything you've let go of where you're just like, man, I really wish I had that, like looking back or because I definitely struggle with that.

If there's something I've had for a while, even if I've never used it when I sell it, it's like the next month I have a use for it. And I'm like, motherfucker. Or I just like, get nostalgia about it. because I've had it for like 10 years. Not particularly. I'm pretty good at being able to move on. One of the things that I do have that I consider cooler than, you know,

some of the other weights is I do collect the on-it pedalbells. So the ones with the face. Yeah, I saw you swing in the Darth Vader or something or whatever it was. The Stormtrooper. Yeah, yeah, the Star Wars one. So I have sold a couple of those. Those are extremely expensive. Yeah, yeah. I sold off a couple of those, and, you know, now that...

To buy a new car, we're selling those off. I mean, it really stopped making them. So I was like, well, I probably should have kept a couple of them. But, you know, you sell it, you buy something else, and I try to just, you know, keep them moving. Nice. Sorry, I'm playing in the notes. Go ahead. You're good. So, home gym con, or sorry, well, yeah, home gym con in general.

like so when did you what so give me the timeline of like you you got a certified training facility you reached out to kurt you still weren't crew you're coming to home gym con you joined crew like right before home gym con then basically like i'm trying it's like when i went into i think we definitely talked briefly at home gymcon right so yeah yeah you know you introduced yourself as crew but i don't think you had any like looking back on like your instagram and stuff it doesn't look like you were crew very long no no it was it was it was it It was maybe a month or two That prior

Um, but uh, What did you think of our crew presence there? What was it good? It was your first home gym cons. You probably like, let me just put it this way. There was like 10 crew maybe year or two. And like there was like a like 60 of us in the last year or this year. So it was, you know,

you definitely got it at its, wouldn't say it's peak, but it's, you know, exponentially more than it was the previous couple years. Oh, yeah, you definitely felt, you know, the presence and, you know, I had my son there. I know I had the invites to some of the kind of the after and dinners. You probably wore out if you actually spotted it and loaded all day and moved. He was, my son was exhausted and I don't want to. He helped move weights too.

Yeah, I didn't leave them in the room. So I let him rest and then we went to, you know, kind of eat. but uh i was looking forward to some of that uh but uh yeah no the truth true was awesome and like i said uh you know i'm kind of uh i i like to just observe and kind of see and and you know uh hanging out with big derrick was cool because that dude is the energizer bunny he's like let's go let's meet people let's shake hands he's he's pulling you know uh you know he he we had like this long conversation with, you know, Winnie, who is friggin' awesome and Glock. Winnie Glock, yeah, if anyone listening.

Yeah, you see, you know, you just start meeting the folks that, you know, you see their videos and, you know, I think it was cool to, it was cool to be with someone who just has the desire to want to, like, I always think, like, they're busy. I don't want to bother them. And he was like, come on, let's go. And, you know, so definitely planning to go back next. year. Nice.

So you have your tickets then? You know, I think that was one of the perks of helping, you know? Oh, you got a big shirt. Oh, you got comp for next year's tickets. Ooh. Yeah, you know, you know people. Big fancy pants over here. There you go.

That's actually pretty cool. That's actually insider trading info there. I was going to, I was going to be like, did you use code unpaid when you got your home gymcon tickets? No, that's a crew perk, though. I think that's a crew perk. Yeah. Yeah.

Shobahon, JimCon, help out a little bit. Yeah, things might cut me away. But, man, Dick Kurt is just freaking awesome. Just putting the whole thing together and, you know, someone who has never participated in Strongman, either, you know, like watching or anything, he was, like, explaining, hey, this is how this works. This is what we need.

and super cool about just uh you know showing you the ropes so uh and also like like sneaky strong yeah he's very strong um like a funny story like i don't do strong man so you look at these friggin sandbags and if you don't have technique like even the 50 pounds was like what the hell even yeah yeah brandon doyle was telling us that too he's a he's strong as fuck and like a 200 pound sandbag like broke him or maybe a 250 or whatever it was and it's like yeah Big Kurt is like Big Kurt's rag doll in the 300 And I couldn't even budget

That's impressive Curtis brings an energy too Like it's just his personality or as you know Is his his just his demeanor But even when he's exhausted Like I've seen him like very exhausted Running on like two hours of sleep And just like maybe some maybe some energy drinks

He's just like he's the same like even keel Of just like just passion and energy So great guy Do enjoy hanging out with Kurt so the YouTube channel what's your future with that what was your goal with the YouTube channel and what's keeping you motivated to keep

you know plugging away at it and where do you think it's going to go you know I don't know just talk about it I want to hear honestly the goal was just as just for my day job as an operations manager I got to talk in front of a lot of people sometimes and you know you got to sell stuff

you got to present stuff And I know my skills as a leader is more one-on-one, you know, coaching and developing. Like, when I get in front of a group or because I get very excited, I can sometimes squirrel or use fillers. So I really started the YouTube channel just to watch myself, not be very succinct with anything. And so as I make these videos and I watch. back and using them as a training log for yourself to get better in public speaking. Yeah, what do I want to say? Nice.

What's the point I want to make? How do I let my personality come through? And at the end of the day, did I make something that I had fun with that I'd want to watch? So I'm slowly getting to that point. But I am very inconsistent in, you know, what video make when. But like I said, have you seen some progress, though? Like, do you feel like even like 10% like I got this? I know how to do what I'm doing kind of thing and like putting it into your work life.

Yeah, I think in the pre-work, even because when I started, I'm like, I'm just going to, you know, pow, pow, I'm going to make a video. Yeah. It's an art form to wing it and very few people have it. Yeah, and I don't because the first couple, first few videos are just me rambling for 30 minutes. I'm like, I can talk forever, but no one's going to fucking listen to this. And I keep, like, stuttering. Yeah, been there, done that. Nobody follows anything I want to say.

And then just, I am, I, I am also the master of the awkward. Just stop talking because I'm done. And people, oh. So, yeah. I heard you goodbye in the middle of a sentence and just still stand there and make eye contact. That's awkward as shit. Do we know what that's called? Oh, I'm definitely, you know, I think getting better.

but uh you know i think you know 50 videos in and and that's another kind of massonomics thing uh you know i remember watching before i even was going to where big tander's like you got to make 100 videos before you can figure out what your your thing is and uh there is something to that right just getting in there and and doing the thing so uh you know we'll keep making them and slowly more people are watching them and you know yeah well we'll have nate drop the link in the youtube and all that jazz So get you out there a little bit I'll just do And you can, you know, post it

And I'll re-share it in the future for sure That's good Uh, I hate to say it Going on an hour and a half already Yeah Yeah, let's, let's uh, FMK, let me go All right You familiar with a little FMK there, big Antonio

I am All right, so let's see I'll go generic Um, Bills of Steel Titan Fitness Fringe sport FMK

Right up your alley Bells Titan French Are you taking notes? I don't know I think he's doing that awkward thing Where he stops talking You know Bells of Steel

Titan fitness fringe sport Yeah I uh I'm writing him out Okay I do of your druthers But like you can You can put your druthers on paper

But you got to read it to us Yeah. Well, I, it's interesting because I do put the three, I like all three. And they're on bar with each other. It's not, it's not like rogue, you know, like rogue and tit. If I said rogue Titan and fucking, you know, four, six, it'd be probably a lot easier. Yeah, I think, uh, I think I'd kill bells of steel. Um, I've had enough, uh, issues with their orders where, you know, they don't pack things very well I've of the three I've had issues

fringe I'm I I would say I say I'd fuck fringe because when they come out with cool stuff it's cool like they had the swords

and I had some kettle balls from them that when they had the 1.25 throwing stars are pretty cool I just wish I could have taken that home but I wasn't risking those in TSA yeah I've got a I've actually actually, I've got a squat max, and I actually use the little throwing stars to keep in between the plates so that...

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, as like your little spacers, yeah. And then, I was like, you see using those to, like, make sure his forms good, so he's, like, jabs himself in the leg if he gets out of whack. Then, I married Titan. I've never had an issue with Titan. I know Titan can be polarizing. When did you, when was your first order from Titan, then? Because let me get a time. Like, I was like, Titan sucked, like, when I got into fitness. So, like, you know, 10 years ago, Titan, maybe the last four years is okay. Titan 10 years ago was fucking half the time you get a fucking grill or a piece of heavy equipment. Yeah, maybe it's probably been more recent.

Although I have, you know, Titan, the three, the single post flat bench that is every bit as solid as, you know, the Rogue one. I've got the Titan dedicated. it's like the west side kind of bench press unit where it's things just a beast they've cleaned up their specs a lot in the last few years but long time Titan was the joke and it's they've kind of hard to like get rid of that wrap

and recently I got the the twisting kind of collars yeah the lock collars I like those things I'm not I'm usually not a collar guy just because you don't need one if it's yeah if it's annoying like why why go through the the bother but as i started

to deadlift more i bought some because you you to have to retighten the plates oh yeah the day they hold a lot better right that's good so they hold and uh you know i would say uh titan has not done me wrong so uh you know sucks to be uh everyone who's had a bad experience of titan A brief follow-up You said you have a squat max in a basement So do you have like 9 to 10 foot ceilings then? Because I ain't getting that shit in my 7 foot ceiling Um

I've got to have 9 feet Three inches, whatever the hell I'm at 7, I'm in 84 So yeah, maybe you're only a little over 8 then That's impressive. Your head must be Hitting because you're about the same How tall are you?

I don't remember you being dramatically taller or shorter than me No, I like to joke. I'm a chode. I'm about as tall as I'm. I put chode in the... I... If I have headphones on... It taps.

Yeah, it does. Is it in the floor joist, or do you have a ceiling? You have a ceiling, right? Yeah, I've got the... Okay. That's a good height. That's a, yeah, that's a relatively decent ceiling. All right.

Well, that was FMK. We can do a little rush more and place more games and keep this thing rolling. Yeah, Mount Rushmore, completely different from everything we've talked about. Best rappers. Nice. Best rappers. I didn't give this much thought. You put it in.

I know, but I just... I love it. I love throwing you guys for a loop every once in a while. If I don't write it down, I ramble. fair okay that makes that makes more sense i was sorry i gave you shit for it earlier but that that track oh no no no you're you're you're fine because uh the side i i do nothing but ramble and talk so when i go silent they're like what happened did we say something uh so just uh you know based on you know uh rappers that i enjoy i would say my mountain rushmore uh number one would be uh

I would say the Jizzah. Wu-Tang, I grew up with Wutang. I think the Jizzah's underrated. But Jizzah out of all of the Wutang? Okay. Yeah. No, I'm in. It's your game.

Like, good swords. Yes, it is. Okay. Yep. Yeah, liquid swords. Number two, I just enjoy action Bronson. Just the wild stuff that he says, it's just, that is like type of rap. Okay.

Andre 300. I know he's a flute player now, but just, you know. Gosh, I need one more, right? I want three. I'll rush more. Just because I've been listening to him again more recently. Rock him. Just old school. Rock him? All right All right Done I don't know that I agree But I appreciate the answer I don't think I've ever heard Andre 3000 Actually rap

Outcast Well I know outcast Yeah but Big Boy did most of the rapping And all of the songs I've ever heard The artist storytelling If you find that mixtape he has the sickest verse of all time

I will say right I think sometimes based on you know he's like I said he's a flute player he wears weird stuff he says weird things but I

but even if you forget that you go back down to outcast but yeah it's your game any alien face you got an alien face you got one that like

you wanted to include but maybe other people wouldn't think of I mean it's it's one of those things where it's it's cyclical right you know it's what's on the playlist if I'm going to go

you know kind of hood I love me some like keeglock just just murders in Memphis I have no I'm not I don't advocate but sometimes I just like to hear about and that's just one of those

you know weird things Queue the meme of Antonio in his car from office space. Oh, yeah, yeah. And he's just, like, banging to it. And then the guy walks by and he rolls up the windows and turns down the volume. All right. All right. I think you passed him at Rushmore.

I did. And I was going to hit you with some additional info, but I see that Joey put it in unpaid. So we'll save it for that because that's going to be a great story that I want to hear all about and laugh at. So we've got to pay some bills, ladies and gentlemen. hit you with some affiliates here. Code unpaid, home gymcon, Freedom Fitness Equipment, and the Strength Co. Apparel. Those are all our friends that you can,

and Barbell Rescue, as I clicked the wrong one off from, we didn't fix that from last week, did I? Or you, one of us did that wrong. So, Barbaro Rescue, Home GymCon, freedom fitness equipment, strength co-apparel. Code unpaid. All those locations, save you a little bit of money. And we can roll this right into

unpaid or underrated, a game that Antonio created all by, himself from what Tanner told us. No, but last week, Tanner, Tanner explaining that last week and listening back to it this week, I was giggling. Yeah, it was so good, because he was like, he was like, it's funny to watch someone who's usually so on the ball,

like, slightly get caught off guard and have to kind of, and like, that's how I feel half the time on this when people ask us stuff or something, or it's just like, ah, yes, it's funny. But yeah, I'd pay it our underrated. Brand new game, we came up with all by ourselves here. We're going to give him about six to eight nice little handpick topics, just for him and he's going to go through and use his druthers and explain to us if he thinks

they're unpaid, which would be the equivalent of overrated because no one wants to be unpaid or underrated, which would be pretty great. So I'm going to hit you off here with mine. I want to hear about, you know, what do you think about Facebook Marketplace Deals? I think Marketplace in a hole. Yeah. I'm probably going to go opposite. I would say many times it's unpaid. God, there's so many time wasters and just shitty people out in the world. But it, it, the juice is worth to squeeze if you're patient enough. As my wife says, she is not worried about me cheating. She is worried about me messaging with some random dude in Tinley Park that's got a deal outweights. So, but I will say it can be a frustrating.

process but you know that's that's that's what keeps me going i guess keeps my attention nice unpaid or underrated what do you think about rep fitness you know that big old colorado business they're not in colorado it's the joke so i know how you feel about it i want to hear you tell them yeah i for for those that love rep fitness and i've got rep fitness stuff But I go unpaid just because I think they play up the fact that, you know, it's designed in Colorado. It is white-labeled Alibaba stuff that you guys have the market cornered on, that you're close to charging, you know, rogue prices for. You know, it just, you know, people go nuts for it. And it sets me off.

Nice. Good answer. answer. Oh, last one. Unpaid or underrated. Jack Daniels. Oh, underrated. Oh, I love me some Jack Daniels. And it's the OG one, or don't they have like different labels of Jack Daniels too? Yeah, well, so, so here's the thing with Jack Daniels. Yes. I'll drink the OG. When you talk about a mixer, it's it's Jack and diet. Like I could drink that. If there's nothing there, if you go to a place, they got Jack. Yeah, Jack and Diet, I can do. But, you know, when you look at, you know, the 10 year, the 12 year, the 14 year that they came up with, I had last year's Coy Hill. They have some underrated insanely good, you know, bourbon, if you're lucky to find them. So, yeah, Jack Daniels, you know, people think of like Frank Sinatra. But now, they're coming up with some really good stuff. So when it comes to a distillery, I would have it degraded. Well, those were my three.

We'll pass that baton over and round this out. Aye, aye, right, unpaid or underrated, Buffalo Trace. Clearly, so similar, I feel like I'm, you know, writing the line on some of these. if you can get Buffalo Trace at retail What is Buffalo Trace For anyone like me

That doesn't know what you're talking about Even I know Buffalo Trace is a distillery That makes I assume it's like an artist or something I'm like I don't know They make a lot of things And like you know

They got Blantons You know Elmer T Lee They've got You know They make the Weller line And it's It's allocated

And I don't want to go down A tangent of you know distilleries and distributors and uh when something's allocated basically uh it it sells for way over retail and and and and blanton's is a phenomenal 60 dollar bottle of bourbon that people regularly pay 154 i am paying 154 for for for no buffalo trace nothing so in in in in that note i mean unpaid because i am not paying anything over retail for some of that stuff but uh people love it and you know god bless them yeah i was going to say i do enjoy a good buffalo trees but up here in canada bourbon is

limited right so unpaid or underrated reaction videos oh god so so to paint the picture the ones that really irk me and are unpaid it's it there's some funny videos on the internet but it's the one where someone does like a side by side and they're like watching it and they do the fake laugh and they're just like ah and it's like you literally made a video

of you laughing at a video it's similar to you know the car rant you had the other day but it's like you literally did nothing yep you mean our car ramp exaggerating facial expressions and shared a video

that somebody else made there's two other versions of that okay it'll be somebody like a video will happen

and then it'll cut to the person making the video and it's just them so let's say they're showing workplace mishaps

and it'll cut to them in a vest and a hard hat yeah and it's just them looking at it being like oh and then they turn to the next one they go oh and then there's a dude and then there's a girl with big tits and it's like it's the same video where you didn't do anything you just either are a guy who has a following or you are a girl with large breasts

and all you're doing is posting a video of you looking at that video yeah i hate those for the fucking yeah i fucking hate the internet in general and that's what my car rant was about and you fuckers took it from me but anyway in a funny way I'm very happy about that that was good work but still

now the move is somebody needs to take my video and have them do a stitch side by side pointing and agreeing with me the whole time for the entire video like that would be very funny well did you

our guest next week man who parks and Jim did that to the one that Nate posted so if you haven't seen that go. It was on his podcast page not as personal, so he doesn't have as many followers there, but if I remember, I'll send it. So I didn't get tagged in my own video about my own video?

Well, it was Nate. Fuck, I hate the internet. See? You see? And Jason doesn't know us for that well. That was my video. And then it got recreated, then it got in. I hate the internet. Unpaid or underrated the resistance

curve. Man. It is unpaid. What? It's the resistance curve. So there's people, and I'll use just a like extension or a like curl machine. People just get wrapped up in the resistance curve. And, you know, this machine has a better resistance curve than this machine. And, you know, and this is ironic coming from a frumpy fat guy who is a self-described chode.

But just lift the fucking weight and you will get strong. Like the 0.5% extra eccentric on the top, it just drives me nuts. And I think people just get wrapped up and lost in something that I'm sure scientifically is accurate. But, you know, if you just did maybe three more reps on something else, You would get just the strong. Just pick up the barbell. That's it. Yeah.

All right. I guess this is my last one. Unpaid or underrated. Menopause pregnancies. I would say that that is underrated. There's a whole story that you want to hear. Yeah. I want all of it.

I want to hear about your amazing kids. I want to hear about everything. So I have three kids. You know, I've got one who's out of the house, and she's doing quite well, and I appreciate her not asking me for money. My son, 17, who is awesome. He is doing really well and looking forward to the colleges he's getting accepted into scare me because they sound very expensive. But so kind of rewind to, gosh, it had to be maybe 13 years ago. So my wife did get diagnosed with breast cancer.

And, I mean, she went through it, chemo, radiation, just it was stage four, double mastectomy, everything. And, you know, when you go, you know, through something like that, you just, you know, she's been sliced up and diced up. So as she's nearing the end of her treatment, you know, the chemo or the radiation, one of the two, it sent her through menopause. And I think at the time she was, you know, late 20s. So you don't go through menopause when you're in your late 20s. Oh, wow. Okay. You know, all the treatment she went through, you know, did. And, you know, we had the conversation.

They were like, hey, you know, this, this happens. And we're like, hey, we got two kids. We're good. As long as she, you know, makes it through, you know, healthy, you know, we're fine. So she's going through, she's almost done with treatments at this point. And she has been through so many surgeries that we know the drill. You see this doctor. You see this other doctor.

And then the last step is the anesthesiologist. They come. And then 15 minutes later, they roll her. off. We're sitting this room for like an hour. And we started looking at each other. Like, what's going on? Like, they forgot about us. Like, what is happening? And so they come back and they're like, so we got some good news and some bad news. And we're like, I guess the, because we want to start with that, they're like, well, we can't do the surgery. So we're like, okay, well, And what's the good news?

I go, congratulations. So I like to joke because my wife did come out of menopause at the end of her treatment. And, you know, she got pregnant with my daughter, which was scary at the time because she had been through so many treatments that, you know, it was high risk. She's my daughter's 13 now. She's very healthy. But, you know, we joke that, you know, I am, you know, such a studly man that I'm not going to have a men of her. just put another child out. But, you know, it's a blessing.

You go through something like that, and, you know, it puts into perspective what's really important. So when people say sometimes I'm kind of nonchalant, it's, I'm not going to sweat something stupid like a resistance curve. I'm just not. Well, I won't be at Crew Falls, but send your wife, my love, even though I won't meet her. I'd love to. because that sounds awesome and she's doing she's doing good now oh yeah yeah i mean 13 plus years of uh you know cancer free so he actually volunteers with groups to uh you know kind of mentor uh ladies that are going through it uh which i you know have the utmost admiration

because it's it's just emotionally just the toll it takes on you but you know she uh she she's When you've been through it, you know, you want to help others, you know, through the same. Yeah. Yep. And I will say wherever I take her, people like her exponentially more than me. I mean, I already like her more than you. You're going to be sitting in the corner at Kru Falls and she's going to be the one out there making friends. Yeah.

Why'd you bring El Pinchay? What the fuck? We didn't need him here. Debbie Downer. No, that's awesome. Um, Stephanie had a brief procedure over the weekend or last week, whatever, I'm not going to get into it, but, uh, she did have to go into anesthesia. Everything's fine. Everything. All the tests came back, what we wanted them to. So, but when she was coming out of anesthesia, there's only the second or third time I've, like, been in her presence that she's coming out. You know, she was very woozy. But like, the main thing that stuck out was like, a, there was a period there where she was like, she was telling me how lucky she was to have me. And I was like, oh, that was, like, I don't care if it's your drug brain or not. Like, that is still a true feeling. Like, like, it was like a drunk man's words or a sober man's thoughts kind of thing that's a no anesthesia is not the same dude i don't know no granted she was still herself like she was yeah like super professional

to the doctors like had a conversation with the doctors that she doesn't remember very pleasant like very i mean this is like her would like barely able to talk uh i don't know it was just the whole anesthesia thing to make me think of that i love that story and i love stephanie and i love you but no, anesthesia is, it's very different. I think when I had my wisdom teeth out, I don't remember it, but I woke up in the bathroom, standing over the toilet. And people were knocking on the door.

And I finally was like, huh? And I opened the door. And they were like, you've been in here for 35 minutes. And I was like, but I had to pee. Like, I was so fucking done. I had to pee I did know bad for her because her appointment was like

a little like end of day Friday basically so she had to fast for like a significant period of time then it wasn't just like wake up and go in and have the procedure done so it was very unpleasant it was very unpaid for her for sure yeah those are very unpaid um so let's see we don't have to do the yeah let's um

you got anything for us there pinchay uh you can't just throw that word around. It's his name L. And it's buddy. I know, but like Aaron's going to listen to this and be like he's going to have a

different perspective. I don't know. Nobody listens to Mofo's opinions. He's got too many. So I do have for you guys. So I'll start with Joey. So if Keith

had to describe you in one word, what word do you hope he'd use versus what word he would actually use this is funny um I think he would probably use a delay yeah I think he would use annoying or distant that might be another one yeah because like I'm so unreadable at times and I I apologize because a lot of the times I'm just fucking not around

especially now that my job isn't on my phone I'm not looking at my phone for like 10 hours a day I would hope he would use friend I would want to hear that

I would want to hear that I know that like we do this like odd couple deal on here but I do think that me and there isn't a day that we don't talk

and it might be about the podcast we might even just rant to each other about something happening in our lives in the group chat like but like there isn't a day I talk to Keith as much as I talk to my wife and I don't talk to anybody else that much. Not my brother, not my

best friends, nobody it's us and my wife like that's I'll go in there sometimes and be like fucking work suck today and he'll do the same so yeah I think he would use annoying or distant

but I would hope he would say friend at some point it's very good all right Keith what's your guilty pleasure tangent topic that you secretly hopes comes up every episode

oh oh I don't know. I mean, like, weights and shit, I guess, but I can feel like I've talked those to death. I like ripping on things that really piss people off and, like, hearing, like, valid reasons why this pisses you off. Not just, like, it's my opinion, but, like, I like, origin stories of anger and pissing, like, I don't know. I just, like, a good, like, spiteful story. And, like, maybe, maybe that's more of, I want to hear someone tell me.

how they were spiteful to someone in a story. Like, that's always fun, because I feel being spiteful to someone and, like, kind of getting one over on them, and it's always fun. So basically, just being, being in the, let's see, being a dick, but a justified dick, if you will. Like, I don't know how to describe it better than that, but kind of, you know, claiming some piece back from some asshole that stole it from you. But as far as, like, I don't know, that's not really at all.

I thought the whole time I was waiting to, like, answer the question you asked him in my head. I'm like, oh, curveball, fuck. I don't know. I feel like we've talked so many topics. And I also, like, I know I go on tangents, but it is like the, you know, it's your episode. So, you know, it's nice to not always have stuff be about me. I don't know.

I'm trying to, what do you, like, what do I get animated? I get animated about a lot of stuff, but I'm not. Joey seemed like he had a, Joey seemed like he knew what I was going to say, but I can't think of what he was trying to think about. I don't think. Or maybe he was just waiting to see what I said because I don't know. I like a lot of stuff, but I also, we're here every week. So I don't need to talk about my likes every week. It's more about expanding and learning about people.

So I guess one question that you could both answer. If you could replace your partner with a celebrity co-host, who would it be in why? Holy fuck. Very confrontational. Yeah. Oh my God. Talking shit about us in the ad, read. Not you.

No. Who would? What celebrity? I don't know. Most celebrities are douche-pish. Oh, that is very true. But I guess a celebrity could be anyone that has like an influence. I'd love to podcast with Tanner.

That would be fun. But that I don't want to steal. Obviously, it wouldn't work out because they got their own thing. like who I want to like who do I like this podcast yeah nobody

yeah there's no one the celebrities we've had on were yeah those were those were all those were all some were good low balls

one was good and the others were oh yeah one was good and she's not even in crew anymore um I don't really have any

I don't I don't Finding someone to put in the work every week and show up every, you know, availability, accountability, being here every week or 90% of the time, 98% of the time is what the podcast needs. So anyone that's a celebrity wouldn't put that into this podcast and this podcast wouldn't exist. So my friend and I need each other to keep this thing going. So I don't, I won't answer that on principle of, if it was more of a who do I want to, I can't even say like who do I want to have one as a celebrity because this isn't, I don't know, it's not that. I know it's just a generic question, but, like, I don't have a good generic answer because it contradicts everything that we do here. I would also say the other argument is who haven't we had on that we want on, right? Like, I think that would be the problem is I wanted Huck Finn on at some point, got him.

Yep. Right? Like, wanted mostly squat videos Matt on, got him. Right? More than once. You know, wanted Jen on, got her. The Masanomics wives got them. I don't think there's been anybody that I've really wanted on this podcast.

I don't think I haven't got yet. Everyone else that I want has already been on either a home gym podcast or Massonomics or some other. But can they come and talk about crew? That's my problem. I also don't want to run. I don't want to run back. Some of them could. Like Gluck and Brandon are technically.

both crew and they're both in the Discord but they're like they're not Karp brought up somebody but we're not allowed to talk about that. Yeah she's yeah um I don't know like I don't know that it would be a great episode with Brandon or Glock

like the great guys, they're my friends I can have to talk to them multiple times in a couple times and you know in person and whatnot but it's like that's not what this is that would be like that would be like my side podcast that's like something else that's like not crew you know that's what that's that's that's like in this this uh parallel universe if i had taken

jacob on his offer like three or four years ago to like do a home gym podcast of my own and like i never never really did that but this isn't that like this is better than that because i can only talk so much home gym stuff weekend and week out and that's why most of the home gym podcast are biweekly or well by month by weekly is that that's what's every other week is that by I think I said that to somebody the other day and they were like my buddy misinterpreted it or my misset it because I was like I meant to say every other month and I said bi-monthly and he was like oh so like twice a month and I'm like no no like every other month because like no one like my lift parties are like getting like very sporadic of when people

show up like some like it'll be like two people one time and then like 10 the next so it's like maybe I spread it out a little bit and it'll be more consistent more engaged so I've definitely fucked up bi-weekly and bi-monthly, so sorry. So let's just, if we could, rework that question. Antonio, are you comfortable with that? I know, too, the question, yeah. Is there a celebrity that if it wasn't about crew that you could have on as a guest, who would it be?

Because I know, like, that one was very hard to answer. Who's it? I don't. I think it almost have to be a kid to care about celebrities, don't you? Like, I don't, like, like, like, no. I don't put people on the pedestal anymore Really don't Like I've met my

I've met my people that I thought were celebrities And that I like were supposed to like be in awe of And a lot of them ended up being fucking douchebags So like I don't know Like it honestly like if we could pull off stone cold Steve Austin I'd have him on here in a fucking minute Because he seems like a ton of fun Mick Foley like wrestling people

That I would easily have on here And be like Let's just talk about wrestling. wrestling for an hour, right? It's not a crew episode, or it's not even, it's not even unpaid and underrated. It's just whatever, like, that's what I'm talking about. Like, if you could have one person where, like, let's Zoom call, and I just want to ask you a million questions.

I want to get a, we get old buddy caps on before Tanner. That'd be kind of fun. Because I could just rub that in Tanner's face for like, but I, so I heard that's in the works. Yeah, it, well, that might be pre-show grease. So if it is, nobody heard that. But I'm not sure. I think it's, I think it's, he hinted at it. No, he shared an email.

Yeah. He shared an email where he blacked out some stuff. So, yeah. Especially, especially if it airs before the, uh, table talks with the mass and Alex guys. Yeah, I'm still waiting for their second. Uh, we'll kind of put the spotlight on them for a minute. Like, I'm so intrigued to what this, where this live recording of the 500 episode is going to be.

It's, like, so, like, because they've handed out a little bit, and I've tried to, like, pull the, I've tried to get him to open up. It's in October, though, right? Yeah, it's my, it's the October 11th, that's my wedding anniversary. They're having it, they're having it to celebrate my 17th anniversary. They're doing it for you, are they? Yep, yep. I mean, it's because Stephanie joined the crew now, so they, you know, they knew it was for us. But I'm intrigued by that, you know, I think there's just, there's a lot of good stuff going on on crew in general.

So, I think if you're listening to this, you already know that. and the fact that we didn't really have any answers of who do we want to get on or who do we want to replace it's because we have a good thing going. Yeah, I genuinely want more Antonio's on. Like if I really... We got nine of... If you look at the schedule, there's a lot of people that I could tell you

outside of one or two of the upcoming guests, I've got very little interaction with. So there's going to be a lot of these not having a ton of discord with the guests going into it, which is kind of going to be new territory for us because I feel like the first two years, well at least for me you fucking don't know anybody so like every week it's someone new for you but for me it's like i've put these together with people that i know and now i'm like not

necessarily running out of people that i know it's just like i know people less and i've also i know fuck at some point is my brain going to break because i'm having to juggle like 400 fucking people on first name basis that we've talked to on a regular basis between home gymcon and crew and massonomics and all that it's just like my brain is filling up Big Carp said Keith and Joey are a celebrity to some people

just saying and it's like oh thanks man but stop it stop it I do have a skeleton and you have a head I was going to say

at some point I would not mind a Joey head to put next to the Keith head on my so the funny thing is if that ever happens it will be the skeleton head

it won't be me because that's Keith here by the way That's even funnier. It would be funny. Put me on the mailing list of pendants. Yeah, a Joey Skeletonhead. That would be the funniest thing ever because that would include so many.

That would include Ryan. That would include me and Keith. There's a whole backstory to that. If anybody wants to know about it, you have to go listen to that episode where we talked about it. The home gym stickers, Rick, is getting wild. There's so many. One of my friends. Karp, stop making me laugh on this episode.

you're right I like somewhat I mean I've I've had to do it myself like hey who sticker like you have to like privately ask a couple people that are like into it as much or more than you like do you know who this is and they're like I don't fucking know who sticker that is and so like I periodically will get those max text and I'm like do you know what this sticker is because I don't fucking know who sent me this or where I accumulated this over you know the last year and like yeah yeah that's such and such all right well boys I think We can bring this one in for a landing. Unless you have other questions, Antonio? Oh, yeah. Sorry. Was that it? Sorry, I didn't mean to catch you up. We ran with that last one for 20 minutes.

So I figured. So maybe this one's more self-serving. My question, Big Joey, is my wife and I do like doing road trips. And if I were to drive to the, our neighbors to the north, I've never been to Canada. Where would you recommend? Yeah. We go. Like, where do I have?

So, like, anywhere in Canada or just, like, in distance of you? Well, I, we're, yeah, no. Just what in Canada would I say, wow? So my favorite part of Canada is Halifax in Nova Scotia. They have the Titanic, and they have the Pirate Museum, the Titanic Museum. They have a pirate museum. There's a lot of really great history, which focuses, unfortunately, on death a lot,

because they talk about the Halifax explosion a lot, which was before the Hiroshima bombed, the largest man-made explosion in the world, killed thousands, possibly millions. I can't recall it's top of my head. General Ross is buried in Halifax. He was the general that burned down the White House. It's just such a history full city. And it's gorgeous. It's just gorgeous.

There's also a place called Banff, which is on the opposite end of the continent in Alberta. It is a federal reserve. So you do have to pay to get in. You have to tell them how long you're staying, where you're staying, and all that kind of stuff. But there's a city in there.

There's a Fairmont Hotel that is just, just the oldest hotel. A lot of Australian people live and work there because they're all exchange students, but it's also very gorgeous. And if you're going to Ontario, you're probably going to want to go northern Ontario. So probably up to the Muskocas

or the Huntsville area where things are just nice. Sue St. Marie is gorgeous. Just don't go downtown St. St. St. Mary. I would say those are like you're going to get the most Canada you're going to get up there and go yeah this is this is Canada

right when you go to those three places it's going to feel like I'm back in Minnesota no no when we were in Minnesota I would always joke that we moved to Canada which is probably this Chicago bastard

yeah that would be a joke somebody who's never been to Canada would say because you're in Minnesota that's fine but you're up in the Muskokas and like all the locks are there because bears get into your garbage and

you have to be over your shoulder to make sure there's not wolves behind you and you have to be looking out for Moose because Moose will rail your car like there's a lot of different are you wearing lipstick Keith Zoom I'm trying to make my camera different and I got going down this rabbit hole

of fucking virtual effects that I can add to my So you added the hussy effect? What the fuck? Well, I was like, adding a beard isn't really going to work because I already have a fucking beard so I was like,

I wouldn't have to stick out. So yeah, I want to throw you a loop there. No, no, it's okay. I was just going to rant about the glory and beauty

of rural Canada for an hour. Or visit Max up in a callowet. I guess I will make, my way north, I swear. I will make my way up to Max and Kalowit someday. He doesn't know it. I'm just going to message him one day and be like, I'm on my way. He's way up north. He's up near the North Pole. And I, that's the part of Canada I want to see the most. Does your neighbor to the North will, does he train in a home gym or does he go to a commercial gym? Talking to him. You will, the lavender guy. I don't know. So, because I notice he is not on the certificate. training map because I was like looking at Canada and I'm like oh this might be will because he's an upcoming guess I'm like nope that's not will that's somebody like way

fucking north so well that's so that's so that's max that's up max up in the calendar he's way up I didn't see uh will on there so yeah will's it will's out east by scans oh yeah I don't think I'll double check it but I didn't see him on there so all right well anything else brother I'm not trying to brush you out I just uh whatever you got we can No, this was fun. Awesome. I think that I had the opportunity to join. And now that I've started listening, you know, I'm going to keep on.

Well, how are you going to? Now, here's the question is, so you've got, you know, you started listening like six, seven episodes ago. That means there's about 100 episodes. You ain't listened. Actually, no, there's like 110 episodes you haven't consumed. Are you going to make any attempt to kind of get to know people? Are you going to, so there has to be. so you didn't necessarily go cherry pick you just started at robos and then kept listening so have you gone have you gone through like the list I know the list is kind of hard because we just recently started adding the guest name making it significantly easy for people to figure out who the guest is but you can go off the thumbnails and just scroll through so it's you know who you met at home gym con you probably met at least if there's no way there's not at least 10 more people that were at home gymcon that have have episodes on here that you could go listen to their episode is that something you're going to you know

take rise to the challenge and you know try to do or you just can say yeah no i i so i'll be honest i'm i'm a i watch youtube and and and if it doesn't have video i get it's hard to keep my attention but what i realize if as i'm working out if i play it i don't have to so now i could just have it play and it's like you know kind of the radio the radio on and yeah we're not I don't think we're ever going to do video. I don't want to do video necessarily because we're just, we're so used. We literally went two years without doing video.

And like, if I'm like scratching my nose or something, I don't want some asshole to like make all these pictures of we're just, I'd be fine. I wouldn't love it. But it is what it is if we wanted to do it. But then it's also, we'd have to get onto a whole new thing and switch from probably Zoom to Riverside

to when, when Nate makes an edit, it makes an edit in the video also because no one's going to, I'm not going to ask Nate to fucking edit. two separate things. And I guess if he didn't, he could just post, he could just post the original thing to YouTube,

but then it wouldn't have all the shit that he adds. And it'd be really hard to do the pre and post show because he tweaks that a little bit. So, first and foremost, we are a podcast. And it's a luxury for anyone that likes to consume podcast on YouTube that is on YouTube now, because it wasn't for the first, like, year and a half probably.

So I don't know, man. I don't see a, if we were making money off this and we were getting ad revenue from YouTube, sure, let's do that. We're like negative thousands of dollars on this podcast between computers and stickers and fucking, we're negative hundreds, probably hundreds of thousands of dollars if you paid, if you, if you, if you, if joy and I paid a self a wage and Nate, if we all paid ourselves 20 bucks an hour to do the podcast, including like everything that we do, would literally be hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. So no, we're not making money here.

We're just having fun. So I wouldn't trade it for a thing. No, and I'm not going to cater to like. like the six people that want to watch our faces on YouTube because nobody wants to see this listen to a fucking podcast man it's it's a look at the way this light makes me fucking look red but I do listen to everyone like I do appreciate everyone that consumes uh I just I don't know for us to get on YouTube we'd have to read format everything and switch to I don't know I don't know Nate'll figure it out someday if he really wants it to be but I'm not concerned

about being on YouTube more than what we are with the thumbnail what I watch I've got the Roku in the gym and I just find something and start out. I'm curious if our watch if we've gotten more listeners because I've had multiple

people that tell me like they only listen they only, I keep saying consume but it's like that's the perfect word. They only consume media via YouTube in the gym and like they're not going to like pull up Spotify or something so you know but now that they can do that I don't know. I feel like there are people that definitely

do that with just the thumbnail that we've post up, and I don't know. It's not getting zero views a week. But is it getting more than 20? Probably not. So, you remember getting hundreds of downloads on audio devices. We're going to stick with that. It's fair. But you want to go

ahead and hit them, speaking of YouTube, I want you to plug your YouTube. I want you to plug your Instagram. Let everyone know who this was and where they can find you. Yeah, so I am Antonio Bacera. I've been Chabesera, Instagram, you can find me at Pincha Bacera, lifting weights, maybe, or sometimes just big in faces.

And then YouTube, El Pinchie Bacera's gym, gym at El Pincha Bacera on YouTube, where hopefully I am getting better at same words. Nice. And I just want to make sure that, like, you know, as you say that of your time, you're definitely, we're using fucker as the, you know, the inflection for. or pinch you each time. You know, it's, we're not, we're not being nice. It's fucker every time, right? So it's a good, good adjective. Yeah, good deal. Jerry, where are you at?

Joey underscore Mlesco, M-L-E-C-Z-K-O, on the Instagrams. And that's it. All right. Unpaid and underrated podcast is on Instagram. Website Unpaid Internpodcast.com. Nate, appreciate you going through and starting adding the guest names. Gary did volunteer to go through on YouTube and the website if you wanted him to

to start adding people's names I figured YouTube maybe but I don't know Nate you know when you hear this Big Nate big Nate big Nate you know Let Gary know He's probably gonna be having some downtime So many you knows

So many you knows But that was when they're when they're consecutive They don't know you know you know you know I don't think that counts You can't if it's in the same breath It's only one we have a YouTube also probably not as many followers

as Antonio but we're doing our best and I am Keith Honeycut 73 on Instagram more importantly go follow my orange gym Dono Wine Cellar until then see you next Tuesday All right Well it looks like you took care of everything on the questionnaire You got a good picture to us

No I want gnomes Well you might have to have You might have to have chat GPT and AI do you use some NOMs because I don't know that Nate's going to be able to I don't know that Nate can do much of that just say Nate make this a gnome do what you always do that takes forever

but then make it a gnome and do it harder I can ask nicely No I know no no I know but it's like Nate's like All right guys I'm gonna be out of town for the next like 79 out of 80 hours He's a he's a busy dink Or what he's not a dink

He's a Double income A hundred kids. DeWith, yeah, the trifecta children. Hong Kong.