Unpaid And Underrated - 125 : Everything Leaking Out Of Me (ft. Big Jason [Man To Parks In Gym])

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

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Welcome back to episode 13 of the unpaid and underrated podcast, podcast by crew, for crew, and incessantly mocked by crew. We're joined today by my co-hosts as always, Big Keith. Howdy, howdy. And our special guest, Big Jason, also known as Man. who parks in gym. Nice. Well, Joey, you did forget to introduce yourself, though. That's the only caveat about that.

I mean, everyone knows who I am. I'm big Joey. I'm always here. Big American Joey. Welcome to the podcast, my friend. Glad to see you again. It's been a minute. It's been a whole seven days.

Anybody drink anything special this week? Well, I've got a refrigerator, cigarette. Oh, which is not coming up on camera. One of those 4 PM Diet Coke's out there. As well as a a lemon cello LaCroix. Nice.

Classic. So I don't have anything fancy here, just regular grape waterloo, but today I was, one of our clients, you know, offered us some drinks and she had a,

it was a, she had sparkling water. It was an unflavored Trader Joe's sparkling water. It was fucking amazing. I know we've talked, talked about the liquid death plain one. I think Joey and I both agree. It's probably their best one. And this was literally, I don't know if it's just because it was like, it caught me in that, like, it had been a couple hours since I had anything to eat or drink. And it was just

like thirst quenching. So maybe it was like over embellished how good it was just because of like how it hit me. But damn, it was good to the point that like next time I met Trader Joe, which is like once a year maybe. I'm definitely going to look for it. So keep an eye out for that but that was pretty pretty on point uh how about you jason anything consuming any good liquids tonight um not really i mean i drank i did drink a bunch of liquids right before this i don't know why i did that but he's got so much tonight yeah probably that that has nothing to do with the fluids and just the fact that i'm you know 45 and i'm sitting my prostate but um i had one of the you know those nuri it's like ultra filtered milk or something it's supposed to be like a protein

shape. Yeah, yeah. I think I actually talked to someone about that recently. I had one of those. The vanilla ones taste like melted ice cream. They're pretty good. They're not bad. That's pretty good.

Yeah. It's like a good description. It's like that's something I think people would like potentially want to eat. It really like my kids don't like it, but I think it's pretty good. If you've had, I think if you lived through like the 90s supplements, you know, like vanilla shakes and stuff like that that don't mix well or they don't. whatever it is pretty good yeah i think my my first intro to protein was whatever um walmart's really cheap budget protein was like 10 years ago i want to say it was like shield or force or

something with some combination of that name and it was just because it was like cheap you know i could like i could like i could buy it would like like 20 bucks would last me like two months or something just you haven't having a couple of you know three or four shakes a week but uh yeah the the shit that we used to eat for sure is to hit to hit protein goals whereas now is that uh you know It's like, I don't want to do anything unless it's my fucking nice, like, $3 a bottle. What the fuck? What's the share life? Yeah, the fair life's from Costco.

They're like 30, you know, but those are just like on point. But just the convenience factor, it's like we kind of become spoiled of wanting shut to taste good and be convenient for sure. Yeah, for sure. You wearing anything fancy over there, Joey? Oh, I've got the classic 8-bit Strongman tea. for anyone that remembers my original episode of unpaid and underrated

that was one of the t-shirts that I missed out on and when they brought it back I snagged two of them to make sure that I would never be without it again. That's smart. I do need to throw another one

on my wish list maybe just because I'm under that point now it's like I'm running out of like under $50 items for people to buy me for like bird days and Christmas and stuff so like that's a good one to have on there because I have one

but it's like one bad decision at the strongman gym away from like being covered in tacky or something like even if I'm not intentionally trying to get tacky on myself like a lot of their yokes are covered or a lot of their like random strongman equipment that shouldn't necessarily have tacky on it still has tacky on it and I'm like fuck so he'll be a little careful with that um I just I got the uh the buddy light on the comfort color tonight just rocking that nice I'm wearing a well town t-shirt it's a brewery in in Tulsa nice Nice. Oh, I don't know. The king of breweries, if you will. Yeah. Let's see. What did we? Oh, so they're coming up.

If you've been watching the social medias and whatnot or listening to any of their pre-show, I think the line in the sand has definitely been drawn on the crew gift. I believe it's pretty much like they're going out soon or actively going out. I saw Jack packaging them up the other day. So maybe by, I'm not sure if we're going to see him this coming week or the following week.

but sometime in the next 10 to 50, you know, I'd say 7 to 14 days, there should be some gifts showing up. Anybody have any guesses? They've dropped some hints and whatnot, but mainly on the pre-show. So it depends on how much pre-show you've made. I haven't been getting greasy on the pre-show,

but I'm just assuming that they're daisy chains. All this daisy chain talk, that's the perfect crew gift. Yeah. So one thing they did mention, I don't remember if we're still in Discord or just on the, I think it might have been a, I don't remember where he said it, but it's like, not everyone's going to get the same one.

So there's been some talk of like, is it this or that? And there's been some good guesses, but I don't really want to, I don't want to use other people's guesses per se. Like, I, when Tanner was on a couple weeks ago, he may or may not have shown us some brief clips of something. I still don't think that we know what it is. It's just, I saw a card with something on it that I don't know how that is going to correlate to what the gifts are and the gifts being multiple. So I don't know. We'll see. but I could see some true

regardless of what they end up being the fact that there's going to be a variety so maybe say like just for instance maybe there's like three different things they have and like each person gets one of the three I could see people maybe trading if they wanted the other one or something so like an in person crew meetups

there might be some bartering possibly and you know it's it's a good time to be a household of two crew members too because you know you double your chances of getting what you want my luck Tanner's going to send me and Stephanie the same goddamn thing So hopefully, hopefully hearing this, he'll probably do it out of spite and as a joke, but hopefully he doesn't.

But yeah. Yeah, that was a big mistake revealing your desire for two of the trees. I mean, it is. That is. Yeah. Well, Nate can edit that part out or, you know, maybe Tanner won't do me wrong. We'll see. So that takes care of that.

Joey and I, I don't remember one of your podcasts, you've been on many a podcast as of late. did you see you and i don't know if we talked about it before or not but like you and i had a very similar helicopter ride in alaska to a glacier um uh experience because i did that uh yeah i i didn't not realize you had that experience that's pretty cool so yours made it sounded like was yours a landlocked glacier or were you like out in the ocean uh no i think the glacier was a landlocked i mean we we we started on a cruise ship so um the helicopter picked us up out there and pretty sure it was a landlocked glacier so yeah we were

I think you and I did basically the same thing I did it in like fuck 2010 maybe which part of Alaska did you guys go to like the up I yeah I did a cruise and we hit like four of the main ports like I don't way hiena like I mean like did you go

like Anchorage and up I did Seattle up in the back down so okay okay okay yeah I didn't I didn't go to that part of it I went up to I've been to like bridge all the way up to Fairbanks. And a little bit, there's a place just a little bit north of there that we went to. And I keep thinking about it because Joey's Northern Lights background there.

That's what we went to do this like Northern Lights tour. And it turned out to a snipe hunt. It was basically us getting locked in a van with some dude named Ricky that like he just wouldn't get. It was obvious. It was like, it was real cloud. and stuff, you know, it was just really obvious quickly that we weren't going to be seeing any of these northern lines and he just kept, I think he was getting paid by the hour or something, like would not bring back to him.

That's frustrating. This little place is pretty. It was a great trip, though, man. I'm always like people, I feel like Alaska is one of those things that people wait until they're really old and, like, unable to, like, they're immobile and stuff like that. It's out on some of the best parts of it, I think, in that way. Yeah, I think I was like 25, I think when we went. so probably, you know, fairly able.

I remember ziplining across like an old abandoned mind thing was freaking awesome. Yeah, I did a zip line thing when I was there too. Nice. So, yeah, a lot more fun when you can actually do that stuff. Absolutely. Well, what's speaking of something that might not be as much fun. How did the big move go, Joey?

Oh, I mean. Or how is it going? I'm not sure where you're at on that process. Um, for the most part, pretty good. Uh, there, there was a couple of things for the gym that didn't make it, which was actually just the plywood that went under my deadlift platform to help level it out. If anyone has the rogue deadlift platform, they may be familiar with this. Um, like that's still in Indiana, just leaning up against the garage door and no one knows where it is. No, it's, uh, they're, they're pretty sure I made it to a warehouse and the warehouse guys, uh, mistook it for, something that they just use like their own plywood so going to get the moving company to reimburse that but otherwise it's very strong so it didn't just go in a pot and just get dropped off like they like took it somewhere and then like fucked with it and then so most of our stuff got taken on a single truck but um because of the the timeline they probably didn't pack the truck as

effectively as they could. So we had like a small bit of overflow. And so that overflow stuff had to first get transferred to the warehouse and then placed into like a pod. So as part of that, that went missing. Thankfully, that's the only thing so far that we we know is missing. But yeah, the worst part about moving so far is I feel busier than Keith or another thing over here. Just, you know, we're still unpacking boxes. We're trying to organize everything. Uh, we've got a bunch of projects going on at the, the house fixing stuff up. Um, so I've, I've barely, like, I really haven't been able to set up the, the gym yet. Like, oh. So my current plan is to set up a, the, the horse stall mats, set up like a four post rack. So I can at least do some like squat bench and dead on that. And then it'll probably be a little bit longer before I get the, the full gym set up. But I'll try to post pictures with my interim setup.

Yeah, that's going to be tough. Once it's up and running. It's like, you put in your 10 hours, your 8 to 10 hours for Netflix. And you're like, do I want to go outside and like work on my garage for nine hours today? Or just kind of chip away at it. And then like meanwhile, you're trying to like set up bedrooms in your bathroom and your kitchen and all that. So like the gym is like trying to talk to your partner to be like, can I go to the gym while you do everything in the house by yourself? And then it's like, so that's probably doesn't go.

Yeah, that's not a winning conversation. Yeah, no, no, no. So that, but yeah, I think if you can sneak away and put a couple hours in to just build yourself like a, like a, you know, a entry level gym, I think you'll be good. And then, you know, work on it as you get a time. Yep. Let's see, anybody watch the Tommy repin YouTube video that came out this morning? I didn't get a chance to watch it yet. Yep, I watched it, but it's like, I don't know.

I've seen a million repin videos. I don't, I'm never going to buy weapons. I don't care. I don't know. It's, it was well done, you know, as always,

but it's just, you know, it's maybe they'll get a couple of reps sales out of them. That would actually probably be a decent click. Like someone uses your link and actually buys a $1,300 pair of weapons. That's probably got to hopefully net you like 20 bucks or something. I don't know. I'm not sure how small of a percentage that actually is.

I don't know. But, but I think if, you know, if there's anybody that's going to get, And get people to use their link, it would be them. You know what I mean? Like, it's hard.

For real. Getting people to use them. And there's no incentive to do so, no motivation to do so. It's really tough, tough world out there in the affiliate. I still think, like, if everyone just, you had a code and you gave 1% off, like, and then, like, the person got more on the back end. Like, like, the company doesn't have to give up, like, even 1%. Like, someone would go to, like, I mean, 5% minimum is nice. Like everyone wants at least 10%.

But if you had just said 1%, because 1% on like $1,000, it's a, you know, that's not nothing. So I believe that a lot of people would probably sacrifice some of their own earnings to give an incentive for people to use their code or their link. You know what I mean? Even if it's like a code, the thing that sucks with codes for the company is that people can, people who have really good like SEO

search engine optimization awareness and stuff like Coop for example he's really really good at that they can maximize on that just by putting something up there with their code or whatever and then whenever somebody goes to Google Pepins or

whatever Coop will be the one that pops up there and they're just looking for a code they put that in there and so that's where it's hard for the company to give that's why They're giving codes that are discount codes and things like that. Because they can't then pin it. They have to pay this guy for his ability to be popular.

Outdoor the others on Google or whatever, you know, but it's like almost a monopoly at that point, too. Well, but at the same time, it's like, I mean, I don't think that I can't imagine that like rep's motivation is to dem monopolize the affiliate game, but it's just a matter of, I really think it comes down to not wanting to pay out more than they have to. You know what I mean? Yeah. They throw, I mean, they, they, they know how it works, and they, they do benefit from all of those people that buy without using the link. You know what I mean? And they kind of, I mean, it's, it is what it is. It's not, I mean, I'm not suggesting that they're all the devil or anything like that.

It's just how the game is played. And I don't know. Right now, it's like, it's one of those things where, like, the best analogy I can come up with it is like, when you tip, it's like tipping your waiter. the difference between your affiliate guy is that he's not getting paid a minimum wage if you don't tip him. You know what I mean? And tip doesn't cost you a dime. You know what I mean? Like these people, Coop and Tommy and Tanner and anybody that's making these kind of videos for, you know, with affiliate links and things like that, they're spending a lot of time. They have a lot of expertise. They have a lot of experience with several different products and stuff to be able

to put together these videos to get it in front of people, to captivate an audience, to to maintain an audience and things like that, the shit you have to do to grow a channel and whatever. And then, you know, for next to nothing. I mean, it can be very lucrative. I think a lot of them, but, you know, you can't pay your bills with a free pair of pepins. You know what I mean?

And at the end of the day, you can't, I mean, it's just not sustainable to try to buy everything. You know, I mean, I know that's what I, that's what Gluck does with a lot of things. I don't think he does. I think, I'm pretty sure I heard him in his smart arm video say that they sent that to him and that he probably wouldn't have purchased it otherwise. But maybe I'm wrong.

I don't know. It's definitely a good thing that we pay their bills with our $3 a month times for sure, 800 probably, either $700 in Discord, but I bet there's got to be at least, call it $750 because I know there's at least 50 to 100 people that aren't in Discord that, you know, pay their monthly dues. So that's definitely a decent amount of money and they deserve it. And, you know, I'm glad that they don't have to rely on the affiliates, but if they can bank another few hundred dollars, for sure. I don't even know if they're probably not even making a couple hundred dollars on affiliates, if they can make another $100 a month or something on affiliates, just to give them, I mean, they're already doing the content and they're doing the content for the YouTube, you know, money.

So if they can get a little bit more on the other end, that just helps them out and keeps this going, because they're not going to, you know, they won't continue to keep putting the work in and bringing the podcast that we enjoy if they're not making it. They're making, you know, a couple grand a month off of it. They're providing people a service. They're giving people entertainment. They're giving people a content that they enjoy, that they love. They're giving people, you know, your lift, hard, lift easy stuff. I mean, it's a community. It's not just affiliates.

You know what I mean? The Lift Hard Live Easy as seen in North Dakota, apparently, by one of the new crew that wanted to answer someone's question that just Googled Ram Cota and saw that it was, there was a Ramcota in North Dakota. told some other new crew, yeah, the Liftford of Uses, he's in North Dakota. And I'm like, what? No, dude. Like, do you listen to the fucking podcast?

Did you watch any of the recaps? It's North Dakota, Jake, then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he just Googled, you know, he, and he was like, Bismarck, North Dakota was, like, the first one that came up. So he was just like, that's where it is. And I'm just like, and another person, I don't know, it's just like, getting used to so many new crew that are in discord that apparently don't listen to the podcast very in depth. Like, I don't know. I'm still a wrap my head around that one.

But, you know, I don't know. Discord's a weird place, man. It's like, it's like walking into, for me, it feels like I'm walking into a really, really big and crowded room where everybody is having a conversation. And I'm just trying to like see if I can just bump around and find one that I, like, hey, you know, interject myself in or or I just start shouting until somebody responds to it. You know what I mean? It's definitely evolved.

Like, I don't, it's not to the point. that it's too big and like to where I think it's going to be a detractor but at some point I don't want to say that to the guys because they they want it to obviously the more people and crew the more money they get the longer they can make it going but like it's definitely evolved like we're not having the same conversation like it's not the same like 30 people talking to each other that it was two years ago where like you knew that person's fucking pet's name and their wife's name and everything and now it's like I vaguely remember that this guy posted something a week ago and I remember it

It's now it's eventually, it will eventually become, as Tanner calls it, just the internet because there's going to be too many people in there. I hope it doesn't get to that point. Hopefully maybe people weave themselves out that don't get it, but so far so good. With only three spots left, you know, that'll keep the numbers down. That is my favorite. And my favorite is like we, I feel like we get a guest every six months that tells us that's their origin story as they fell for the three spots left, legitimately.

for the three spots left bit. So I got a couple more things here just to wrap up general topics. So one of the big Joey is up in Canada and Big Derek had a crew meetup. I think Derek was up in Buffalo, Canada area, doing some firefighter training and was able to meet up with a few different crew members, or at least Joey. He's supposed to be at my house tomorrow, but he texted me a little bit ago saying there were some issues with his motorcycle and he might not be able to make it out. So we'll see about that. But hopefully I hit you next week with a Big Derek. follow up and I had a little what's in the sack what's in Keith's sack tonight more or less

the wife um big Stephanie got me an awesome gift I haven't posted about it yet but uh she got me a PR bell like an orange cowbell that I can hang up in the gym and actually like ding ding ding so I was awesome yeah I just got to figure out the perfect placement for it and now it's almost has me like fuck I almost want to get a little I think I'm gonna have to get another one for the garage at some point too but the only negative part about it is like wherever I put it like if If I'm squatting 30 feet away, I'm going to run over to the other side of the gym and you're just going to hear a bell off camera. But at least if I think I'm going to put it near the deadlift platform, because that's

like where I have the most space, basically. But yeah, so far, I was very excited for that. And big, uh, big Joey, did you get a chance to listen to Massonomics episode last week? Yeah, I did. It was then kind of recapping, or maybe giving more of a preview of the, some of the South Dakota Mastonomics certified training facility tours that they've done recently. You know, I thought it was bold of them to visit Tommy's gym. You know, it's a little controversial, but, you know, sometimes you got to just stay close to home.

But, you know, given all that, I think I'd probably rate it five out of five fridge sigs. That's fair. What about you, Jason? Do you get a chance to listen? I know you're busy going through our backlog. I have not listened still. I've only, I'm, this is now like a test because there have been times where like episodes have come up and I'm like, I'm going to, and I was like, wait, hold on. I've got to hold out just a little bit longer. I have not listened to it. That's all good. So in a hypothetical world, what would you give it? What do you think you'd give it if you had a chance to listen to it? How long is it? I don't. I don't, I don't, who are my big math? I don't. just under two actually i think this was a short one i kind of i think i remember yeah it's like an hour to i remember being annoyed being it was only like 90 minutes uh not

annoyed but it was uh it is fuck i have to read download reports to tell me no that's okay that that gives me i just needed to know is it are we talking an hour i have an hour 23 so that might be their shortest episode okay at that one i could i would i would probably rank that one a five there you go five out of five uh but yeah so as joey says That was the South Dakota gym tour recap. I think one thing it stood out to me was they were talking about Big Mo's gym and how it was the first one that either of them could remember where it was like a two-stage setup because Mo has a basement gym and a garage gym.

And I don't know if Tommy was serious or just couldn't think of the right word, but he kept calling when he was referencing a basement gym, he kept calling a basement gym a home gym and then referred to a garage gym as a garage gym. And I'm like, I mean, they're both home gyms Tommy, but one is a basement gym and one's a garage gym. I wouldn't consider a, just the terminology you just made me chuckle, because he did it like a two or three times in like a five-minute period. And I was like, wait, like say, say basement gym.

Don't, don't say home gym when you're talking about a basement. So I don't know. They kind of stuck out to me specific. Man, I find that, where, go ahead. I was just going to say, I find that talking, I use words sometimes and I listen back or something. I'm like, why did I say that? Yeah. I judge, I judge pretty hard for someone that, like,

nosy fucks and says the wrong words like one out of 27 times that's what like when people like drag coop for calling it a sticker instead of whatever I'm like give this man a break do he uses a thousand words a minute you know what I mean like occasionally some wrong ones are going to get thrown in there or something like Jesus but yeah it can be hard man words are hard sometimes my question is where in that uh lexicon do people put a shop jay Is that a home gym? It's not in my home, but it's on my property. Yeah.

Barn. I mean, is it not even, it's not a barn. It's an actual pole. I mean, is it a pole barn? Because you can call it. I mean, it's a pole barn construction, but like metal clad building. But it has a garage. It has a garage door.

It's got garage doors. I would say it's too. Yeah, people have like separate garages. Garages that are separate from their home. It doesn't have to be attached to your home to still be a garage. Yeah. According to Big Coach Karp, it's called Live in the Dream. Yeah, for real.

I can agree with that. It's not yet, but it will be in six months when it's finally set up. And you have this turf that you keep talking about. I've seen, I've heard you talk about your gym a whole lot and I haven't seen much action in there yet, buddy. Is it insulated with like heat and air and stuff? That's where I, that's where I drink. It's insulated. It has wall electric heaters.

I'm eventually going to put in a mini split because it can get, hot here in the summer okay awesome that's incredible man uh yeah ran out mine uh the one thing it stuck out is i really want to they talked about allen's uh strong man gym and actually went and looked at his uh instagram and i was like oh fuck he does have a legit strong man gym so i'm actually because i know the other guy's gyms in and out i've been to a couple of them and i've uh you know in depth watch a shit ton of youtube videos in jake's gym and i watch all of mo's content so like i have a fair idea of what's in both of their gym and i've been both of their gems um uh but watch i want to see alan strongman jim for sure so i'll go ahead and give it a five out of

five atlas stones and nice joey do you want to hit us with those first three affiliates there yeah i'll hit us with some affiliates while you kick off the looky lose oh yeah got to get them out um first up is obsidian ammonia uh i believe that they are still banned from instagram so you may have to go check them out at hypedust dot com uh use code unpaid to to uh to save a little bit and help us with that speedboat fund. Next up is plate snacks, the most popular company for the crew sticker exchange, code unpaid there. And last for this group of affiliates is belt-fed strength.

If you're looking to get strong, get a belt-fed belt, can't go wrong, code unpaid. Man, I went to belt-fed strength the other day, and I wanted to add a gene belt to my wish list. And I think he took them off. Like we always joke that Chris hates me. I can fucking gene belts. But I couldn't find it on there. I think he literally pulled it. But then it made me thinking,

didn't they do a spinoff company that they're like going to like dual brands? They're going to have belt fed as their belts. And then they have another like a, you know, the brick and mortar mom and pop like we just do random leather shit. Like I, but I couldn't find what that company Instagram page was because it was like maybe that's where they have their belts. I think it's like, black iris yeah there was i i i made the mistake of just type in in leather from accounts they

follow it and like fucking 90 million fucking accounts came up but yeah black iris leather goods that's going to be their their more their retail space and also their non i'm not going to Related items are going to go there. Text me that at some point because I'm not going to remember that. And then, um, say gene belt. You mean like a like an inch and a half, two inch belt? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Not the, denim. Not the, yeah, yeah. I was like, that's, I have not seen one of those. No, so Chris made one and Tanner took it home. But like,

I would never wear that in a meat or anything. Like, it looks funny, but like, it's a cool thing. It definitely fits the vibe of certain people. I'm just, I'm not that guy.

Like, right i my silliness is limited in the gym uh for sure but uh big jason do you have any uh anything you want to tell us about massnomics just in general just oh did you have a did you have a sponsor read you wanted to hit us with form um i have a commercial yeah that's the same thing oh okay people words you know what i say and what people hear you same okay let's i'm going to to try this. And if this doesn't work, then I'm going to silently sneak back into the bushes like Homer Simpson. I mean, if you have an audio clip too and it doesn't play, you can just DM it to Nate. Okay. So let's try it and then because I'd like to see if this works. You ready?

Yep. Yeah. Believe it or not, I haven't always had my shit together. There was a time in my life when I was lost. I was confused and I was wearing old gym shorts that didn't cost half my mortgage payment. I thought I knew what it meant to bench heavy. I thought I was strong, but really, I was just a man who parks and gym, searching for meaning. Then I found the Massonomics podcast. Or I guess it sort of found me, but they taught me what really matters, like proper nutrition through Costco chicken bags, questionable amounts of cottage cheese, the sacred art of drink safety through the drink spotter, and of course how to justify buying overpriced shorts that only a relatively small group of people on the internet will ever appreciate or

even understand. Now, some say that Massonomics is just a podcast. That it's two incredibly immature dudes with an affinity for beer and lifting weights, but for me, it was a revelation. It gave me purpose. It gave me hope. It gave me a community of people who are also willing to pay full stalemat prices for a very small piece of a stalemate. And the best part is that for just $3 a month, maybe slightly more than the cost of feeding a starving child in a third world country, but you too can become a supporting member. That's right, three bucks will unlock a lifetime supply of inside jokes and the eternal right to say you're part of the crew. So do yourself a favor and listen to the Masonomics podcast. It might not fix your squat form. It might not fix

your marriage, but it will make you laugh while both fall apart. The Masanomics podcast, it's the most important podcast in western northeast south dakota nice i mean awesome i don't know that uh what is the what what is the what what is the damn publication that ranks all the podcast in aberdeen the aberdeen gazette or wherever the fuck it is where they uh they still haven't been featured in that when they do the the the local podcast round up annually or it might maybe they don't even do it annually they didn't maybe they did it like twice like three years ago or some shit but uh no that was good that was that was our first pre-recorded commercial i think so that was uh hopefully that i i laughed so

well done i might have uh misunderstood the assignment it's all good that works too that's fine i it's it's was it's carte blanche is that the right term like i dealers choice like i don't as long as you do something that like it could even be talking shit about them like i wouldn't be nice but you know it ain't gonna hurt it's not gonna hurt my feelings and Tanner might not like it but uh i think i think we asked tanner like fuck literally two and a half years ago now and like what he expected out of this for like us giving back to them and he's just like it's your podcast do whatever the fuck you want so like we could probably go and never talk about him again with with that little segment but because we literally talk about them for fucking our other places

but it's just uh it is funny it's intriguing to see what people bring each week because some people get really creative with it and other people like we had a guy did like a poem or something recently and people like you can kind of tell when they just like phone or dame with chat gbt and when they actually like put some effort into it. No, I mean, a lot of them probably are chat gpte. It's just a matter of you plugging in what you want to say and just have chat gbt say it better. So that worked for me.

I think we got all those looky lou is out. So what do you think, do you think, Joey? We got to get this guest on the horn. You want to, you let's get, let's get Jason in here. See if he's there. Is that you, buddy? Is that you, Jason? you there?

Yeah, hey, what's up, man? Hey, welcome to the unpaid editor-up podcast. We're glad to be able to get you on tonight. Yeah, I'm glad. So we'll go ahead and hit you with the first question we always hit everyone with. What, how did you find massonomics? You know, I didn't. Massanomics sort of found me.

Oh, yeah, this is actually a good one. I'm excited to hear this story. It's carp still here. So Massanomics actually started for me. A friend of mine, actually a friend of ours, Greg up in Canada, Canadian. For whatever reason, I got from him, and we are on kind of group chat or whatever, him and another friend, powerlifter, Amanda Wolfe, or Big Bad Wolf, if you know her.

We, they sent, they both sent like at the same time a link to the original drink spotter, like the minute that it came out. And they were just talking so much shit. They're like, look at this. What dumb motherfucker would pay stuff? dollars, whatever. So I was like, I immediately was like, oh, I've got to do that. It was like a joke. I'd never heard of Masonomics. I don't know anything about the drinks butter. But I was also like, yeah, that's really, that is definitely something I'm going to buy. So I bought it because what I wanted to do was like piss them off with

frivolous spend with like, what? Oh, I didn't. I had already heard. You know what I mean? And so I did. And I bought it just so that I could make this stupid little like real of myself like opening it with a, like a drink in my hand and trying to open the the box with you know one with a drink and not having the wherewithal to just set the drink down and open the box you know and then that way I could open it and be like oh shit there that's you know what I need it all along kind of a thing and I ended up having it I ended up taking it down because I didn't realize I all the time and I mean it I do not know how to use the internet and I don't even think about shit like I the whole time like after I posted it one of my buddies was like dude that video is just just

your address all you're like doxing yourself okay so I ended up I don't know how to like edit that out or anything like that so I just deleted the whole thing but that is where I first heard of Masonomics and then from then from there because I started you know tagging them and all that kind of stuff in those videos started seeing all these other ones that come up and stuff

and started following them and I get their content you know through Instagram now on my YouTube and stuff like that but but that's where i had originally heard of them i really i actually really like the instagram that kind of just always yeah tanner's done two books today for like a literal decade like and they're good like they're not it's not burners you know what i mean how they how they do it like the crew the the crew contribute some but like i would say the

crew's the cruise contribution has got to be like literal five or ten percent because he'll make maybe one or two crew post a week with like using like our memes that we made uh but i mean he's doing 10 he's doing 14 post a week like most people don't even do 14 post a fucking year like humor all feels the same and this is the thing that i really have a lot of respect and admiration for those guys is that they have it's it's one thing to to have funny stuff or do funny stuff or say something funny or whatever but to just be like genuinely and all authentically funny, you know what I mean? Like, it's original, original humor that they have.

And it's just, and I think that's what people are drawn to with their content there. And it shows even in their fucking memes, you know what I mean? It's good, man. So that's how they got on your radar. What about becoming crew specifically? Because you're relatively new to the supporting membership and our discord and all that. Yeah, I was having flashbacks when Joey was talking about, uh, code unpaid at belt fed because that is exactly what what got me i i have you know i went on a

rant about and i do this often about affiliates and about you know people you know i just want to get it out there for people to consider using somebody's affiliate link of their code or something like that and in doing so i mean i can't ask other people to do things that i am not willing to do you know what i mean and so i oftentimes when i know i'm going to make a purchase for something whatever I ask, hey, do you guys know, I mean, you've been in chats with me. I've asked numerous times. Like, do anybody know if there's an affiliate link for some, but does any of you guys or anybody that you know have a link to this placement, but to make a purchase?

Whether, however big or small it might be, I try to make sure that, you know, somebody gets, you know, gets credit for the work that they're putting into it and stuff like that. And so I did that. I was ordering something from Beltfed, and I didn't, you know, Carp was, you sent me kind of a list of codes and I think he probably assumed that it was a code that you know helps support the channel or something you know and he shared that and was like sweet went and paid it and then I was like hey Keith I just because you know the other part of it's kind of like working out and not posting about it you know what I mean like you can't lift weights

tell somebody or else it doesn't care the same thing with affiliate codes the links or whatever like when you use one you got to go tell that person because they'll never know you know So I was like came back as hey man I just used your thing and you were like well technically that's for crew only It was like a secret deal because his margins were so small and it was just something he did for You know the podcast or whatever but you know that's cool and I was like well shit I was like well now I just felt like that was not my intention and I was I was trying to come up like dick it was just more of it did catch me up guard and I was like oh shit yeah it wasn't even like you know so I was just like yeah fuck it I'll just join the podcast whatever so yeah my percent on my $60 purchase, it's costing me $3 a month. But, I mean, and also, I'll give you credit, too, because, like, if you wanted to do it just to kind of recoup what that, you know, that little bit of money or something, but, like, you've been here for, like, I don't know, six months now or something.

So it's like, you know, we haven't scared you away. I mean it whenever I say that I value the, I, I, even the, even though I haven't actively listened to, I've listened to one episode of the massonomics podcast. not even the full episode. I don't remember. It was one they were driving. They looked like the two sonic dudes or whatever, you know, like from the, and they're driving back from. Oh, yeah, it was the Arnold recap.

Arnold. And I got about as far as they were talking about having met Brandon, uh, Diamond, you know, and how meeting your heroes and that kind of stuff, you know, and they're kind of joking about how he is the exact same guy that he is online or he's exactly what you would think he would be and stuff. And I, I had to tap out for something. I don't remember what I was going to do and I had ever, I had the intention to to come back to it.

And then I had these. intrusive thoughts of listening to some before i came on here and i was like man you know what keith knows that i haven't listened to these and if i don't stay true to that for at least until i get to this podcast then i'm a you know makes me a bit or whatever so i do i i do i will because i when i have some now that i'm commuting back and forth to work oh yeah yeah you got a couple hours every day just road time don't you to do that kind of thing to consume a little bit of that stuff but like during my work i just don't have that kind of a job where i can do it and then i get home you know, whatever something.

Well, I do know you did your homework on us because you definitely, I don't know if you listened to too many before I got you scheduled or not, but I know you've been powering through a handful because I literally saw it like unfold and fucking Facebook on the garage job because you had comment, our friend Brandon Doyle commented a lot of times people go to the Facebook group specifically to like help Masonomics. Hey, what kind of podcast are you guys listening to, wink, wink, just so like 30 people can say massonomics as well. I mean, I don't think, I think he was probably fission to actually see some good

podcast as well of anything it wasn't on his radar but like it just so happened that like you commented on whatever and he's like oh i'd recognize you and then you're like oh i recognize you because i literally listen to your podcast and i was this fucking great i'm in i've been recently kind of renovating this this has always been this kind of weird little space uh that my kids have had access to like it's just like a weird this is where the toys that they don't play with go to kind of a thing and i've been kind of wanting my own space for this and whatever it was just an opportunity. And so while I was kind of tearing out the desk and the floor and all that kind of stuff and laying all that, I was like just turned on the podcast. And yeah, man, there were

a lot of those that really resonated with me while I was listening to it. Like my favorite one that I can recall so far was the one with the, which is your favorite murderer or whatever. Then there was another one where I was listening to and it was occupational therapies. And it was like I listened to but I don't know how far I got into it before his handle came up and I was like oh I know him I know that guy you know like I and I mean I think I've probably I don't even know if we've ever I mean more recently like since that podcast and just a few days ago whatever we've interacted a little bit on um Instagram or messenger or something like that and but before that I don't know if we ever actually directly did but I've definitely seen that and that was just one of those things where I was like this is what is cool about unpaid underrated is that you guys take it's Because you're focused so much on the community aspect of massonomics and what they build in that. And then it does provide a face to those people that you interact with, you know, on the internet. You know, like your people of the internet or whatever, they become less of a profile and a little bit more humanized and stuff. And it's a cool aspect.

And I really appreciate what you. I love to hear that. And we're trying to make it a little bit easier, too. It's like, I advocated this from episode one of trying to. put the guest name in the title and I was kind of I was voted against because at the time I don't think anyone knew how long was it's going to go we knew we were a little more vulgar and I think people didn't really the other two are you know Joey and Nate didn't really want to have people linked you know didn't want someone to Google someone and have them talk about

dicks and farts and stuff but I think at this point no one cares and everyone probably wants to be found a little easier at least by their friends so it's just uh the last like a couple months maybe we've been making sure to put the guest name at least the first name in the title just because like it does stink because you scroll through the first 150 episodes or whatever and it's like who the fuck is this and you have to like zoom in on the thumbnail and kind of like think of who it is i mean granted if you click on it and go into any of the the the body of the post it's there in the details but like no one's clicking on anything like they just want to like see see a name they recognize so i'm glad we just click on episode 41 and that'll be the best one

find. Yeah. Is that right? Yep. Well, big, big Jason. I know who you are. Joey knows who you are. But in case we got some of listeners, name, Instagram, Discord, wherever they want you to find your website, YouTube, any of that? So yeah, I'm literally no one. But on Instagram, I go by Man Who Parks and Jim, and this is the longest. And I probably already lost you, but it's man underscore or is that Yeah, man underscore who underscore parks underscore in. I don't blame you if you never looked that up.

YouTube, I'm on there also. I think I'm harder to find, though. I've been told that. I've never actually looked it up. But I did try to put M.W. Pig and Man Who Parks and Jim. So whatever. There's really no reason unless you just are a glutton, I guess. It looks like it's Man Who Parks and Gym slash MW.

Pig and then the ad is just in MW Pig 5. I'm sure if you literally just search MW Pig, it's going to show up. So I host a podcast under the Garage Gym Radio umbrella. It's called Rep, Rant, Repeat, and that's kind of my little pet project right now. I mean, I'm still post somewhat on, I mean, I'm currently reviewing some products and stuff for a couple of companies on the YouTube channel, which is a new kind of venture for me, that type of, of, of, content, but the podcast is kind of my

little pet project at the moment. It's just right now I'm doing a thing where it's just me solo, and once I kind of get a vibe and a feel and that kind of stuff going, I intend to have some kind of guest hosts from time to time, but mostly it's

just me holding myself accountable to I got to say your most recent episode I thought was excellent. Yeah, I wonder of that. Every week would be great. You know, when I watched it back, I was like, God, this is just, I should, why didn't I just title this like Joey's episode? It was, it was so much Joey.

It was. It was. It was, 40 minutes of talking about Joey. It was pretty good. And it was like, all right, well, here's the rest of the episode. Thanks, guys. See you. I enjoyed it.

Even when I, you know, I was talking earlier about using a, a, an app that I dropped the episode in and it chops it up for me to make little pieces of the content to try to promote the reprint repeat Instagram page and stuff, you know, to try to grow that. And it was, even that was like, when I went through it, it gives me like 30 clips. And I was like, every one of them were Joey, you know, Joey's. Oh, the one you posted was fucking hysterical.

I laughed so hard at that. I didn't get any of the part that's not Joey's gym. You know, it's just going to think of Joey's gym. I think I saw the Instagram clip, probably, because I think I just, I don't know when you came up with that episode, maybe last week, I just got a chance to listen to it today. And I was like, oh, I saw this.

I, like, when it came up on the podcast, I was like, I heard, like, this 30 second clip on Instagram it was funny as shit and when you get more context of it I was like oh it does make more sense because like I thought you just randomly pulled Joey's name out of your ass

for like an analogy or something I'm like oh no he was it was the Joey episode oh okay yeah the part where I are you talking about like the basic white girl oh the basic white girl yeah yeah yeah yeah that was hilarious because I was like oh that's gotta be our Joey like there like there can't be any other fucking Joey E's out there that's it

that is anything you want to hit him with joey any questions you're just going to go in order for a few if you want um yeah uh where where are you like you know besides on the internet where do where do you live were you from so i'm in tulsa um i live here in tulsa and i'm basically i mean i'm from a smaller city muskogee just outside it's also originally uh but i've lived here for say i'm from here now i guess i don't know uh but yeah not a lot going on here, you know, in the, in the plains states. But it's a good place to raise a family.

It's a good place to, you know, my wife works in energy gas and stuff like that. And so we have a lot of that. And just moved my oldest daughter out to South Carolina. And my next daughter is. The upstate? She's the upstate? There's a, there's, we have a cousin podcast where they talk about upstate South Carolina, a lot of this kind of uh okay well i i don't know which part of that i i would assume then i ignore i

don't somewhere in the hills i don't fucking know greenville spartanburg is usually considered the upstate versus like uh myrtle beach and like you know all those uh more southern and eastern parts are like the low country and then you've got like the middle of the state where columbia is yeah she's in columbia which is mid-state, Midwest of South Carolina. But yeah, just having moved her out there, my next middle child or whatever is in high school,

it goes so fast, man. And I don't know, you know, I don't know what we'll do. I mean, I have another one after her that's 10, but it's like we're a blended family, right? So hers and mine and ours, and we've never been as locked to Tulsa once the two older ones are kind of doing that. Oh, okay.

We'll be a little bit more considering mobility. That's why we're in this weird place with the house, right, where it's like, do we put more money into this house or whatever? Or do we just kind of wait and see what's going on? Because like my commute, my wife's commute and stuff, like we're, neither one of us work in Tulsa. We both, she actually works in Oklahoma City, which is an hour and a half. Jeez.

Oh, wow. I'm an hour commute away. Yeah, you need to move, dude. And when I, when I, you heard at least like both work in the same general vicinity then? Like, did you buy? Opposite directions.

So then we're fucked. There's no point of moving unless one of you fucking get a different job. Then I really, you know, I'm trying not to, you know, I don't want to. Yeah,

don't get political. Not to get triggered here. But, you know, but previously I have worked from home for about 13 years until recently. And that's always been part of the plan. It's always been the assumption that, was going to be what you do you know what i mean you work from home that was part of the gig yeah yeah uh the the benefit of being the federal employee right right and so yeah it uh i don't know

what'll happen but you know i'm i'm in a weird and i don't mean this to sound but i'm in a position where i really don't don't really um i do it because i've always really enjoyed the work that i do and the people that I work with it is some days are harder than others with the stuff and so but if it comes down to it you know I'll make a decision and right now it's a personal choice for me to drive back and on that vein we always give people the opportunity to talk about their job as little or as much as they want feel free or you know we can move on um I will say I I work for the department of veterans affairs I don't work directly with veterans face to face or anything like that I make a lot of decisions and I do a lot of things that help a large portion of veterans to get compensation

veteran, you know, for service-connected conditions and things like that. And if there's crew out there that have served and have questions or, you know, just don't have a good understanding of what their VA benefits might be, if I can't answer those questions, I can find the answers and stuff. So if there are people out there that have that, I'm always, I'm always, it's, you know, it's not as faceless as it seems and it's not as daunting or overwhelming or I have a knack for taking that complex information and kind of you know dwindling it down to something that's easy to to swallow and I'm happy to be out there. Nice. And use code unpaid when re-snap for her services.

Yeah. Yeah. You can mention unpaid and then I'll know that mentioned unpaid episode 13 and I'll know where you got it. Indeed. Indeed. So you've been, you know, you've been watching massonomics for a bit here and you've been crew, you've done a couple in-person meetup, so at least one at the home gymcon. Was there any shirts or anything? Like, I don't know how much massonomics merch you actually have, but is there anything that you've seen that you went to go buy and you're like, fuck, that's sold out or doesn't exist in their website?

Because they do a lot of limited runs, obviously. Well, you know, the, the goose stuff is near and dear to me because of goose fitness. Yeah, yeah. So I did go, when that one, but, you know, whenever I saw that it was like on sale recently and I went, I'm definitely not my size in that. I think it was the black one. Yeah. I think they recently released. They did.

Yeah. And it's on a, it's on a comfort color blank. So it's not the fitted one. It's a little more, more almost all cotton. I think it's probably all cotton. Yeah. I got an ad mat shirt from, from home gym. Yeah.

That's a generous fit. Yeah, especially now, man, I've lost like 30. Damn. Oh, nice. Hopefully intentional. No, no, no, nope. You're not going to be out angling anyone with that kind of body weight. Well, it's weird.

I feel, I feel really small. I feel really light. I look that way. I'm not even feeling out shirts that I do. And what's weird about it is that whenever I, like, when I work out, if it starts getting harder or something, I take it. take my shirt off and I don't look any smaller in the mirror

because I'm, you know, I've I mean, my everything looks skinny, but I have muscle. There you go, yeah, getting more defined. I don't know. Have you lost weight since home gym con or about the same size? Well, I'm about

30 pounds since January, so when was home gym gym con? 30 pounds lights. Yeah, July. End of June, beginning of July. I think it was the first week of July. Yeah. I've, I've, I've, I've yeah I've lost dang so yeah the man dealing with a lot of stress and he you know

starts a podcast starts another podcast you know pulls anything away from work and family that he can do yeah it's but that probably helps though doesn't it like do you think like I mean are this podcasting I don't it's not an added stress right now at least not it can't be because you're doing it by yourself

so like this well doing it by myself is helpful yeah we can get into that in a minute it takes out the the stress of relying on someone else or something like that. Not that, you know, it's not that, you know, my partner was unreliable or anything like that, but it's

just there is a, there is another element of that. Or the scheduling aspect is very challenging. Or just having someone else rely on me even. Do you know what I mean? Like it's one thing when, like last week, for example, my, my intention with rep and repeat is to drop an episode every other

week. And last week I did with trying to move everything up here, get everything set up, redo this room and stuff. I knew I wouldn't have it just completely done, but I needed a space that I could at least get my camera and all that kind of stuff set up and it just kept running into one thing after another.

Then there was one day where I was like, I'm going to record. And I kept, so with Garage Gym Radio, we share an account on Riverside. And if one person is recording, then if another person goes in and it just kicks them out, whatever. Oh, okay.

So you do have to actually. Same time. Yeah, there's like five or, well, there's at least three people that record on that. So we have a calendar, like a Google calendar, and we'll put time slots on there and whatever. And usually I'm pretty gold if I do a Tuesday evening because Jake does the neural news on Tuesday mornings, right? So he's not usually, he's not recording again later that day. And usually DeLepro records on a different day and that kind of stuff. So I'm usually pretty safe.

I looked at the calendar. There was nothing on there, whatever. and I went to go log in and it just wasn't working and I thought it was my setup and I was my show I was like I this is and so that kind of stuff

you know what I mean and it was just one I have all these other things this was what I had planned for this day those things will be stressful about it but it's less stress than if I had

other people that I felt like were relying on me for that or that you know what I mean it's like I can I can pick this up I can I'm going to get this to so so it's a wash

I guess whether or not doing the podcast. Yeah. I think for me, it's a distraction from some of the other things. And it's one of those things that it just gives me a little bit of, like, I don't take a lot of time to unwind or to like, you know, I mean, working out and stuff. Like, I do that. Sometimes I don't, I'm definitely not as intense as what I need to be and I know that and stuff. But sometimes I can't just force myself to do it.

and so I look for these other kind of outlets, and this is one of them. I think it's also helpful for me because I'm really uncomfortable and awkward talking to people or talking on a camera and things like that, and I feel myself, I can see myself getting better and more comfortable and confident in it, and I really do, like even lifting weights, doing podcasts, D-E plan, and things like that, it is a self-improvement mechanism for me to try to see myself progress in ways and do. things that most people are uncomfortable with. I'm uncomfortable with. I know I sound like an idiot. I ramble. I whatever. And I have to remind myself a lot to when I'm doing those that like

this isn't live. You know what I mean? I can go back and I can if I just completely I and I, and I, and I also talk myself through that and like, you know what, man, it's, it doesn't have to be perfect. It's not going to be perfect. Leave that in there. You know what I mean? Like the ums and us sometimes. I mean, I'll take out the stuff that I feel like is just a real bad distraction or something like that, or if it's just a complete and total fuck up. But for the most part, I just own those mistakes, too, in real time. And that's just all part of it for me. So I think in a way, it does help to relieve some of that anxiety and stress and things

like that. And it work, you know, I've got, like, I have to get up in front of people and I have to, I'm in a leadership role. I've got people that I can't be afraid to talk. You know what I mean? Like, and sometimes, you know, I'm talking to people, I have people on my team, you know, that are, you know, my, I mean, they're in a, you know, my employees or whatever, I don't what even want to call them, but, like, you know, these are guys that have served in multiple

combat zones, you know what I mean? Like, they've been in real shit, and what am I afraid of talking? You know what I mean? All I have to do is, they're not going to, you know, they're not holding me at gunpoint or whatever. They're not, you know, it's just, so, so these kind of things, they, they help me with that, and that is, I do, I am glad that there are people that, that find enjoyment in it I mean I do put work into it I mean it's not just like I'm not I mean I wing it I do a lot of riffing

and things like that but I also I try to come up with some kind of content that it's not just me surfing the internet you know what I mean like which is what it feels like sometimes whenever I'm going through it but whenever I'm going back listening back later or something like that

you know like to to be able to actively engage with you guys on the chat and things like that I'm like listen listen back to it in real time or whatever, and looking on the rogue side. You know, I'm just thumbing through road.

It's really hard just listening to yourself. Yeah, it is. It is. I think I've said it a few times on here. It's like I very seldom we'll listen to the full episode anymore. I just, now that we record from beginning to end, I'm just more intrigued to see what Nate actually puts in the pre and post show

because sometimes we'll put post show stuff in the pre-show. Sometimes I'll take some of the pre-show stuff. And if we have a long pre-show, so we'll put a lot of that in the post show. show and other times it's like you know cuts most of it but for the most part he you know puts anything in that's worth it so like i'll listen for that and then it's like but then i do end up feeling like i'm missing out on some of the back and forth because someone will text me of like i can't believe you said this i'm like what the fuck did i say i don't i don't have three hours

listening that episode and it was fucking four days ago i don't know what you're talking about that's that's the funny thing too is when when you have a podcast that you released like a week ago and somebody that you you know interact with or whatever chat with is listening to to it in there chatting they're texting you or whatever in real time and you're like i don't i don't i'm not listening to that i don't remember i was just talking you know what i mean like i remember most but every now and then i'm like fuck what does i talking about sometimes i have to like ask for i'm like send me a timestamp and i was like oh that makes sense now that's funny uh i'm i'm curious jason do you have a certified training facility i do yeah hell yeah oh yeah

what's your what's your gym name It's called the gym That man who parks and Jim parks Tanner wrote all that out He did Yeah That's like that's it Yeah

That's funny All right so That's really You might have hit a record on people The most amount of people submitted shit for I think like six weeks before you're supposed to be a guest I think I already had like 13 submissions for you

So did you Someone who's been on a lot of podcasts it was probably fairly easy because they probably already knew you were for a podcast but was there anyone that was like

what the fuck is this you and you thing or why are you asking me if any funny stories to stick out from that or was it pretty straightforward no one asked any questions

I thought it was really cool and weird and you know I just sent that and I was like I need you to fill this out when you get a minute and then yeah

every 100% of the people that I sent it to responded and well wait I take that back I think there might be two people, one or two people that I, that are like, buddies that I've met through work, like when I would do work travel and stuff,

these guys work in other offices, uh, and, uh, somehow we hit it off, beers, beers is how we hit it off. Yeah. Um, and, uh, I think those two did not, and which they could, they actually have some really good stories, but I think that if they did, and they're probably listening to this, if they did, they're probably, they probably would have rather just gone with

he eats dicks or something yeah and I'm glad people those are the like I've vented many a time like there was there were some someone thought they were funny and said we should ask you around much

the Mount Rushmore of like your favorite gay bars or something like that I'm just like we don't like that nothing is scared like obviously you're not a gay man's like I know your family so it's like you know a wife uh so it's just obviously it was a stupid fucking suggestion and there were some other ones

about like dicks and dildos and stuff. So I was like we, even with the people you sent it to, we still got some stupid fucking responses that didn't fit what I know of your lifestyle. So I was like, come on, guys. Like, fucking grow up. This isn't middle school. Maybe they did respond then.

Yeah, I can, if I don't remember, remind me, I can, I can resend you. I can go back through the link and have it to where you can view who submitted each individual thing. If you want, I can just send you that later. let's see so we covered that so I'm gonna hit you

with a little least fun most fun it's a relatively new game we came up with I was gonna ask you least fun most fun solo posting solo hosting a podcast but I feel like we covered

I like it man I really do I think I think we kind of covered that though for the most part so if you're not from for anyone listening that's not familiar

least fun most fun I'm gonna give him a single topic and he's gonna give me two separate answers the least fun thing about the topic and the most fun thing about the topic and kind of just

quick hitters or a little in depth if he wants. So I'm going to go least fun, most fun, home gym con this year. Your experience, home gym con, least fun, most fun. So I just want to make sure I understand the rules of the game. Am I supposed to tell you something that it was the least fun of home gym con and the most fun?

Correct. Yes. It's not was it least fun or was it most fun? What was the best and the worst? I just like least fun most fun because it sounds cooler, but it did. Yeah, yeah. The least fun was the mind fuck that is the overwhelming, like, over-stimulus.

I mean, it's a weirdly least and most fun aspect of it, but it was, I just wasn't prepared for it. You know what I mean? The, like, the brain rot that I felt from just overstimic, and needing to, like, hide in corners, you know what I mean? That was, that was a weirdly least fun aspect of it that I am also weirdly looking forward to next time better. And then most fun, honestly, man, most fun was probably those.

after hours, you know what I mean? Like drink, not just beers, booze, whatever, but just, you know, mingling around with people, getting to know some of the people. And I know, like, afterwards, some of my buddies would send me, like, clips or whatever of, like, Uber nerds at, like, a

Comic-Con or something like that, you know, meeting their, their Twitch friends or whatever. You know, I was like, yeah, that's exactly what it was like for me. You know what I mean? I was like, yeah, I was nerding out with my fellow nerds. Jim shit and people that I've been, you know, some of these guys, you know, I've been, have a chat with people for, like, the last five years, you know what I mean?

And it's like, it's just cool to, I mean, but what's cool about it is just rolling in. And it's, it's a non-issue. It's not like a big, like, awkward, weird. It's like, those are people that I've known forever is what it feels like. You know what I mean? Absolutely. No, I was glad you're able to make it. I figure you definitely would have fit in year one and year two.

But, you know, year three, I think got a lot more people just because it's easier to get to. It's actually a real city. to go to potentially but then like i don't think anyone did anything outside of going to home gym con and going to a couple and no one even wanted to go to like really bars and shit because it was just more convenient to just go to the bar at the hotel like that was just like i didn't want to fucking walk seven blocks to go to some shithole bar like it was already annoying that we had to walk like three or four blocks to go find food sometimes i was just like everything just being at the hotel was fucking so much more convenient and and i might not speak for everyone but as far as i

concern like anything i am ever going to find at the bar outside of there is right there inside that one except i have my hotel right here you know what i don't have to i don't i don't i'm too old for the bar scene man especially without my wife and all that kind of stuff like i just don't and even if i was whether we would if we were going to go somewhere for drinks like away from that it would probably have been uh oh man what was the name of that i went to this place like three times a breakfast and stuff it was like around the corner it was a different hotel that they had a restaurant in. I didn't go to that one.

But anyway, it had a nice little bar with good bourbons. Were you the one in the elevator with me and James, you know, occupational therapies that like the dude, like got us on the freight elevator the one night? Yeah. Okay, that was us. Okay. I had so many different like micro experiences with like different groups of people that it was very hard to keep everything straight.

Yeah, I don't remember. I don't remember who was on that either. But yeah, it was me, you and James. And, like, the guy that kept telling us, like, as soon as he got us on there, is, like, oh, they're, they're going to see me on camera. And I'm going to get fired for this. Yeah. Why the fuck do you bring us back here, dude? Like, you could have said, no.

Yeah. Easily said, no, guys. Sucks to, sucks to wait in line for an hour. Yeah, that was, the trick there was to go downstairs to the first. Yeah, that was we tried that. And then there was a million Barbie convention people that were also waiting. So that worked out really good that night. You know, so I think we're all familiar with your, uh,

nickname mw pig or man who parks in gym uh i'm pretty remiss that we haven't said this already but mw pig five saves five percent of prime fitness um who who calls you the risler oh that would be my daughter uh my my my my daughter my she's regan is her name and yeah i don't know what it is But my two, my two oldest daughters, we go places. Like, we'll go as a family and stuff. And I don't, I get, like, ladies will compliment me on stuff. And my daughters were always like, dad's got Riz. You know, and I'm like, I don't know, it's usually like, it's usually my TACD is.

Is that what Riz game? Like, I don't, I don't even know what RIS means. Yeah, it means charisma. Oh, essential. Okay. It's like, it's a brain. not word of whatever generation we're on, you know, two generations below us, you know, but yeah, they'll be like, why does he got so much risk? But we'll go, it's usually, it's just

somebody gives me like a compliment on tattoos or something like that or whatever, but sometimes it will be a little bit uncomfortable over the top, uncomfortable, whatever. And so, yeah, that'll be my, that'll be one of my daughters. Good stuff. What about your lifting history in general? Obviously, you've had a home gym here for a pretty long time. Walk us through any, you know, So, you know, your training and what led you to the home gym and all that? So home gym, you know, if we define home gym as a dusty pair of dumbbells under the bed, I feel like, so I've always either, I've always had access to a home gym in some degree, right? So my mom, I grew up, my mom, my dad, my mom and dad had gotten divorced and stuff.

My dad passed whenever I was a kid. And so I was always kind of a single mom. She worked a lot of jobs. And some of the stuff that she did to try to pay the bills and stuff was she was a personal trainer and aerobics constructor and stuff. And so, and she would do a lot of that stuff at the house or at the church or things like that. And she always did it for like people who couldn't afford memberships at places. And so she would do these things where somebody would pay her like $10 a month. And every week she would lead an aerobics class.

She would have a full class of people and stuff. But we always had, like, Jimmy, she would always have, like, a little bit of a home gym, you know, dumbbells and things like that. She would have, like, back of the day when people would do, like, slide aerobics and stuff like that, she would have all that stuff at the house. So I always had that. I always had, I had gotten stuff whenever I was, I started getting into it, and I was like 12, you know, 11, 12, 13, something like that. And it's always one of those things like, man, I wish I had, you know, stuck with it or whatever. I was so skinny, like super, super, super skinny. And it's one of those things that, like, people, I've never been, I've never had a, I've never

struggled with, you know, being overweight or anything like that. But I assume that when you're severely underweight, the mind fuck that that has on a person can be similar, right? Even though nobody has compassion. Nobody ever says, like, wow, congrats. If you lose weight, somebody loses 100 pounds, people will celebrate you, like, it's the most, Like, it's the greatest accomplishment you will ever have made in your life, right? Which, it's just losing weight, man.

You know what I mean? It's like, it's not, people do amazing things. I'm not minimizing that, I'm just saying. But no one ever celebrates a gainer, you know what I mean? I see that. Like, if you're, like, 130 pounds and you wanted to get up to, like, 180, like, that's actually pretty fucking impressive versus. But it can be just, it's, it can be a similar, I don't know if it's similar or not, but there are also mental struggles that people can have. in that space right people when you just grow up constantly being told you you don't eat enough

or you're too skinny or whatever so i can remember being like 12 13 and stuff my mom like i said she was personal trainer and stuff she worked for um or a guy down the street from me was a bodybuilder and so i remember i would call him at brian owsley uh and i would ask tips and tricks for working out how can i gain weight you know i was like and i would do this regimen where i would eat like triple decker peanut butter and mayonnaise sandwiches oh what the fuck dude it was the It was calories, right? I don't know about nutrition and stuff. I could go peanut butter and peanut butter.

Fuck off with the mayo. Well, I could. Oh, here's the thing, man. If someone, like, whatever your goal is, if you have a physical physique goal thing and someone told you, like, you know, if you're five foot one, I'm just going to go out on a limb and assume that if you're five foot one, you would probably rather be a foot taller. If someone told you that all, that if, in order for you to do that, you just have to eat this shit, three times a day, whatever.

you would probably, if you really want it, you'll do it. And that's what I thought with, like, peanut butter mayonnaise, right? Like, it wasn't terrible. I've eaten worse yet. But I really didn't think, like, man, if I eat these things and whatever, this is like, only protein we have, you know, like was that kind of stuff. My mom, like I said, single mom, we didn't get assistance or anything like that. And I couldn't really, you know, eat like a bodybuilder or anything.

So I just put together what I had, you know. It didn't work, by the way. I don't think it's a good way. but I was just, you know, doing stuff like that. Had a home gym, lifting weights. I've always had something, but didn't really start getting serious with it until it's probably in my 30s. I've gotten like a beach body thing and a set of those Bowflex 552s and a bench, right? And I was kind of doing the, I did that thing over and over and over again.

I did realize pretty soon that I was. was limited by the 52 pounds that those were, you know, I was doing like deadlifts with 52 pounds and talking to other people who had a physique that I thought I wanted, you know, I want to look like that guy. And they would just tell me like, you've got to lift more weight. Like 50 pounds is not enough. You know, I was like, but I'm holding two up. Oh, so I'm holding 105 pounds or whatever, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, you're going to have to add more weight and stuff. And so eventually, I didn't think I was, I didn't think I would be able to afford a gym membership. So my wife got me, and I didn't want to go sign up for like a year gym membership and not be able to afford it and stuff.

And so my wife got me a membership for Christmas at Planet Fitness. And I went there and I told myself, you know, if I can, if I make it this whole year with, you know, going to the gym before work, I was going at 3 o'clock in the morning and lifting weights, which. Three o'clock in the buck. Well, I got to be at work at six. you know what I mean and so at the time I was driving an hour away and uh it was so I'd go to planet fitness lift weights and I did make I made it probably 10 months or something like that and before I was like I went as soon as this is up I'm going to get a membership at a bigger gym you know one that and I see if I can make it work and I had to change my schedule because that one

didn't stay open 24 hours and I couldn't go until after work and stuff and my wife was like just go now you know and I was like but I've got this stuff this two months left and she was like just it's $10 a month just go you know what I mean like it's 20 bucks nobody cares just go to the other one and as soon as I did like it's like the fish bowl effect right they talk about if you put a like a fish in a bowl the fish will only grow as big as the bowl is yeah yeah as I started lifting like when so when I was a planet fitness I think I don't remember what's the what's the weight limit on the on the dumbbells they're like 60 pounds or something yeah I think I'm very club to club because I it's like I have seen actual

bench presses and spot racks in certain plant of fitness and i have seen others that legitimately only have uh you know smith machines so i think at least at least 15 years ago when last time i've been in a planet fitness like it did vary gym to gym they're franchises and so that that that's that you know some of my i don't know but but yeah this one i can't remember if it went up to like 60 pounds or something like that but mentally you're like oh i can't lift those those are the heaviest ones in the building right so you you will mentally kind of limit what you catch yourself and so i did the same kind of thing at the other place. I go down and I'd be like, but now I'm lifting 80s instead of the 40s or

something like that. And I did, I felt like I kind of grew pretty quickly, started growing much more rapidly, I guess at that point, whenever I started really putting the time into heavier weights and things like that. And with, you know, home gem stuff came about with that because I'd gotten rid of the Bowflex thing and my gym that I was at was upgrading some of their stuff and whenever they would upgrade their benches I had bought like a couple of hammer strength benches and stuff and I was just kind of putting together a few items

that I could have at the house in the garage in like a little space or whatever so that when I had a couple of buddies that I was living with that I'd met through the gym and when they couldn't go or something like that or if I couldn't make it they closed it nine at that gym And so if I was, if you got there at like 7.30 even, they were eyeballing you.

Like, you know, so. Get the fuck out of here. So those days where I wasn't able to, I would at least have the ability to lift weights at home, at least get some kind of a workout in and stuff. And then COVID hit. And I just went off the deep end. Oh, yeah. Like a trauma response was like I sold. I had a bunch of like tools and woodworking gear and stuff like that.

And I sold like all, most of everything. I barely have anything left from that, if anything at all. I have like drills and things like that. I've replaced a few tools that I've realized I can't get rid of. But in my mind, I was like, I've sold everything because I went from a huge shop to nothing. You know what I mean? And have gradually just gotten this thing where I'm in there, you know, decorating my gym with massonomics certified gym certificates and things like that, you know. So I guess it's always been a part in some way, but just not, you know,

varying degrees of what who do you think's worse you were Jose completely revamping your gym over the last five to ten years Jose yeah if by worse you mean who's spending more money and who has a completely different gym from today versus where it was like he is definitely probably worse but like I don't know many you gotta be in the Mount Rushmore like out of like out of like

our core like I don't know like I don't be some out other outliers but like I can't you're definitely up there if I had to answer that question like out of like everyone I'm follow on Instagram like there's no way you're not in the top five of people that have at least read you've redone your gym completely I have redone my gym several times there was a guy so in my in my last episode I was just like rep and repeat I talk about different stages of home gym or different level of home gym you know and someone had commented on there that I missed one and that and I totally agree there should be something in between like three and four where you and I've done this like numerous times like where you

you have things like for example you've got a leg extension curl right and you've got to this and that but then you start upgrading those right like it's like so you're replacing it with the same thing just a better version you know and you do that with with all of your equipment you know to read that that that additional phase there and uh and yeah that's a very valid point i've done that i think Jose Jose's transform reform reformation or whatever has only taken as long as it has because of the long lead times at prime but he's replaced those orders long, long ago. I mean, I have like three machines coming and that's all I have room for man. But yeah, you know, his, even the reason why it had stayed the way that it was was because

you know, he's like, like he has the rogue seal row in there right now that's going to go away as soon as he gets some other machine that he's waiting for to replace it. You know what I mean? And like, so a lot of those things that you've seen over the years have just been kind of a holding place until the replacement. So I don't know if he's better at reforming his gym or he's worse for having got it.

I would say you're definitely on the Mount Rushmore of people that I know that have sold everything off and started over. Carp would be up there too, but I think he does it more for the affiliates and or the free shit and whatnot and, you know, for the review, for the content aspect, but you're not necessarily selling shit because you've already got content out of it and it has no more value to you, whereas a lot of the other guys are. Whereas you, your content is like not even on the top five things you think about with your gym, even though you do create content. I try, when I create content, like my, the prime stuff, my prime affiliation stuff has dropped dramatically.

But most of what, so this is a difference, I think, between like, man, you would think, I don't, I like it. I like it. I just, I like a lot of things. I like, I mean, I like knowing things. I like helping people with things. And I like, there's something, you know that moment, like when you're in a classroom and the teacher asks a question that you know the answer to. And you're like, ooh, ooh, pick me. Pick me. I know the answer.

You know, I kind of get that same sense from this stuff. So when I see people that have, you know, I've got a, I'm in a unique position with Prime where I have a lot of experience with their stuff and I know how the things work. And I can answer these questions for people that don't. And I love doing that. And so I have kind of, I had before the affiliation ever came, already sort of a, reputation and a following of people who needed that from someone, you know, in Prime and stuff. And that really, when they started the affiliate program, I joined because I was like,

I'm already here. You know what I mean? I've been buying this stuff. I've been in the system and I know the game better than anybody. I mean, I was drawn to Prime because they didn't do affiliates. You know what I mean? Like I guess I wasn't getting it shoved down my throat from people that I didn't know if I really trusted their intentions and things like that, you know.

And so it was this, but now it's pretty saturated, it's pretty flooded. I do still have people that are like, that will come to me for that purpose, and I still get energy from it. And then, you know, the affiliate stuff, I just, I think it's funny. And I'm also not like, you know, Coop, Brandon Gluck. Well, Gluck does it, but like, coop and they don't, I don't have the kind of reputation and following and stuff where I can pretend like those codes don't exist, you know what I mean? like Brandon can do a whole ass video without ever mentioning other than the fact that he has to because people will assume that he's you know whatever but he doesn't you know I don't have that cool swagger you know what I mean I'm like if I don't advertise it if I don't say it nobody will you know what I mean so that's where I was with that for a long time and it's it was fun it's been fun and also some of it's like you know like we said earlier sometimes you just you got to feed the social media machine and I need some content I need some whatever that's how it started was I was like fuck

man, I don't have time for whatever. I'm just going to make some memes. And then it was like working. You know what I mean? So I was like, well, I'll just keep making memes until whatever. But how's, uh, how's juggling a couple different Instagrams now? As someone that has to fucking have his finger on three or four of them, I'm, I definitely like, you know, I cannot keep up on all the content that I need to do on social media for sure and I get lazy with it at times. But you only have two now, maybe a, well, so yeah, I've only got two, I've got two Instagrams and I'm only really doing most of the stuff like the Instagram so I've got the man who parks and gym Instagram and the hard part I think for me is not making the two the same yeah yeah it's very hard I do I try

to do my best to keep like not I mean I only do collabs every now and then and it's mainly when like the worlds do collide thing yeah it's like I'm I'm struggling slightly because like reprint repeat it's like at zero right man who parks and gym I got a big boost early, like during COVID time, to get a boost on social media following, you really just had to be like mentioned by someone. You know what I mean? Jake, Jake got me probably for like at least three or four hundred followers.

Well, several hundred followers over the years. Somebody, I just remember like, I would be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, oh, I'd share something. I'd share something. Then like Matt Pindigrap or Kyle Devine, you know, Kisen, DIY or whatever, would, would repost my content, tag me in it. And then all of a sudden, I'd just be, like, blowing. I'd be like, oh, my God.

I just got, you know, my phone's just blowing up with follows. You know, I was like, I just went viral, you know, or whatever. I got 14 new followers, I'm in me. Yeah, I didn't. I got like 30 likes out of my content. Kyle would get like 3,000 or whatever, you know, and I'm like, how come, what's happening here, you know? We can all be Kyle.

I know, right? And so, so I got a big boost from that. Now, growing this, in rep, rent and repeat, it's kind of a weird thing because it's sponsored by Garage Gym Radio, right? But I'm, so I'm essentially with my, I mean, I don't want to oversell the podcast or the value of the podcast or anything like that. I don't know what it's doing, but essentially I'm putting all this into Garage Gym Radio's channel, like any following, anything like that that I get, and when I do that, it helps to grow that channel. and if Jake and I should split ways, I have a podcast with no following, you know what I mean? I have to pray that everybody follows me over or something, you know what I mean?

And so what I think on my overcast cast app, it actually does, it doesn't just show, it doesn't show up on GGR, it shows up on rep ramp repeat as it's standalone podcast at least. Whereas I think before when you got, let me check. Yeah, well, on Spotify and Apple and stuff, it will. Yeah, he put those on, he put those on their own channel and he was like, But on YouTube, it's only going to... On YouTube, yeah, I see what you mean.

Yeah, on YouTube, it's on that one. I forget about those other ones, honestly. I fucking hate you. Hi, you're one of the... You like your podcast on YouTube. Well, I don't... Well, I don't... You have YouTube premium, so you can avoid the ads and shit.

I don't... I will never pay for YouTube premium because fuck that. I got enough... Got a subscription in my life, so... The... Well, I heard you had room for one more. Well, yeah, I did... I was a...

I'm glad that. Joy still came on the podcast tonight because, ironically, we did cut ties with Netflix after like a 10-year run. I just, it got to be too much and everything else is going up. And I just, we might bring it back into the fold, but there's like actively nothing I'm watching. So in six months when some new shows come out and let it build up, we might get it for a couple months. But it's just, it's, that 20 bucks can get us dinner one night. Yeah.

Well, that's good, man. I mean, I need to go through those from time to time. and I feel like I'll probably still have like Peacock or something from the Olympics. Like we watch the Olympics for some. If you watch it, it's what sucks. It's like I watch a little bit of everything. So it's like you,

I couldn't afford to have all the channels I wanted if I didn't, didn't get some of it by, you know, pirating means. Like I don't watch a lot of TV. I watch too much shows. I don't, I don't know what I'm doing, man. I'm just podcasting, I guess. You know what I mean?

when I'm not doing my own thing. I don't know what I'm consuming because I, and it's always been that way. Like I grew up without, I mean, we had a TV, but we, it's the weird,

I'm like, like when my dad was there, it would be like, if he came in and you were watching TV, it didn't matter if you just turned the TV on or if you've already done your homework, whatever, he'd come in and be like,

turn off the TV. You'd go outside or whatever. You know, it's like, yeah, and stuff like that. And so it just wasn't a thing. And so I remember even feeling like a weirdo when I was a kid because I could

never really relate to people because they would always talk about like TV shows. or it's a commercial or something like I think about it you know what I mean and like music he he wouldn't let us listen to music unless it was like his music which was classical music and stuff like no kid you know what I mean like we guess who the new boats are you know so it's always been one of those things too like I don't know you know but but even with like Netflix and stuff like we have it I turn it on and I do we'll start something but like usually it's at night bedtime and once my head hits the pillow dude I'm done You know what I mean?

Oh, I'm the same way. Yeah. Yeah, I fall asleep so fast if I'm watching something. Yeah. And then I wake up at three because, you know, I've been sitting on my prostate all day and I get a piss and then I can't get back to and then I get up at four so I can, because it's usually I look and I'm like, fuck. I'm like wide awake me and then I get.

Yeah, the worst is like when it's within a half hour or even, well, I guess a half hour's not as bad. When it's like, when it's three minutes before your alarm goes off, like there's nothing worse than that. Like, I'd rather just get woke up by my alarm. When I have that hour, the hour is kind of tough because it's like you could really get back to sleep. But then if you do, it's almost too hard of asleep. If I could.

You just kind of essentially have like an hour of bonus phone time. It's kind of free time. But it's just like, I don't know. It just sucks all the way around. Getting up that early, just fucking is never fun. But, Keith, do you want to hit us with an FMK? Yeah. Let's do that.

Let's see. Let me scroll down. Oh, wow. We got a lot of stuff to skip through. Do, do, do. Holy shit. Um, well, I've got a lot of, you know, music talk here. Uh, I guess you, you're a self-taught guitar guy, it seems like. So you got a little guitar experience. So I'm going to hit you with an FMK. So a fuck Marykill of three separate guitar brands, I guess. So, uh, a Les Paul, an SG and an explorer. Are those three that you can go through? There's someone put like a fourth one on there too. So if, uh, if, uh, Flying V, is that one that you would like to substitute

one of the other ones with? I would marry the flying V. All right. Fuck the... God, do you? Honestly, all right, marry the flying V just because it's so... I have my reasons

for all these. I would kill the Explorer and I would fuck the Les Paul. And then music is something you just kind of... It just had self-taught specifically and it wasn't It's just something you just literally bought a guitar and bought a book or something, or YouTube did? So I have a pretty musical family, and I'm like kind of a black sheep.

But somehow music is one of those things I can all relate to on some level in my family. Like my mom plays the piano. My dad played the violin. He played in the orchestra and stuff. My grandpa played the fiddle. He played with like, I don't know if you guys. He played on, like, Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys radio show and stuff like that when he was a kid. It's a really big deal, guys.

But then, you know, my brother plays, my sister plays the piano. My brother plays guitar, and he actually owns a couple of music studios. Allegro guitar in Tucson area, and you've got kids that, they don't just play guitar. that you know I grew up my brother always played I mean he went to school I played classical music and stuff and always have just there's always been a guitar and I just want I don't know I mean I'm not good at it I guess self-taught just means that no one ever you know wanted to invest in getting me lessons have you have you ever sold any of your guitars to fund the gym equipment? I don't know. I have not sold a guitar in a very long time. There was a

there was a time where so as you've seen me go balls deep, all in and and off the rails with gym equipment, I have done that with musical equipment and there was a long time there where it's like any, like I get into a hobby and I would find ways to make that hobby. Your personality? well it's not it's it's it's like self-sustaining uh finance okay okay so like do a little flipping yeah and it was like with guitar stuff you know i could do this stuff where it's like if i invest a little bit of money here or i find a guitar somewhere or whatever that it's like you it's kind of like vintage weights and stuff when you start to recognize things and you see something and you're

like hey it's a good deal i can i can have that for a little bit i can use it get my use out of it whatever and then whenever i go to sell it i'll either i won't lose money on that it's not you doors, it's just your turn with it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're just borrowing. I was able to do that a lot. And it kind of snowballs with musical equipment and stuff, and you start getting in these circles.

They know you can go to them for things. They come to you and stuff. eBay was a big thing back in the day, too, where I'd know what I could get out of things on eBay and stuff. And so, yeah, you know, that with music stuff, I guess. Did you ever utilize your woodworking skills to renovate any of those guitars? Not really. I mean, I have fixed guitars, you know, a broken neck or something like that with, I guess, I guess, woodworking.

Binal stuff. But, but not, I mean, I, and there were a couple times where I was like, I'd buy like a kit. I'd really rather just buy like a kit, but they're always shitty. You know what I mean? Like, it's not like you get a good one. You just get this basically like a working model to look at when it's like I would rather just, you know, those are a decent one of those will still be three or four hundred bucks, which is cheap by comparison. But I would rather spend that money toward a nice guitar if I'm going to have one that has resale value. You know what a kit model bullshit?

You know what I mean? In the guitar world, that's like having a DIY barbell. You know what I mean? Like nobody ever wants that. Mm-hmm. Uh, how about a little Mount Rushmore? Yeah. Um, so in addition to, uh, you know, your gym stuff, uh, being, uh, into music, uh, it also seems like you've traveled a lot of places. So what would you put as your Mount Rushmore for countries you visited? I'm glad you asked that one. Dude. Okay. So countries outside of the U.S., I'm assuming you mean, the U.S. I mean, you can include the U.S. if you want, or maybe that's the alien.

yeah there you go um now i like okay so Rome is a great city in Italy um I really like that city I don't know why I've I you know what maybe it's just where we were at that time or something but it's like it's something really fucking cool about you know we were we were riding in an Uber or whatever and like round this corner and it's just the streets are

like cobblestone like this black kind of rock stone and they're all, I mean, they're not like, it's not like ancient Rome streets or anything like that, they're modern, but they're all this carved, carved stone or whatever and it's really cool.

You come around this big ass corner and it's just it's a city but in the backdrop there is the Coliseum or something and it's just, it's really fucking cool man, how there's ancient ruins with city stuff and none of the city lands

or the cityscape looks particularly new. But I just, I love the way that the big cities repurpose old buildings and stuff. You know, like when you see like a McDonald's in a bank from the 1500s or something like that, you know what I mean? Like, it's pretty cool. I mean, even though it's a McDonald's or whatever, but you know what I'm saying? Like I just, there's just something really cool about Rome, the history there. And this is a, you know, it used to be an empire and you're standing in a place.

that's that that scene you know that image of like fucking Stalin or whatever and you're like this is cool man I mean not that that's cool but this where you are history and you're like but you know what I'm saying like I don't know that yeah it's just a really cool and like it was where we stayed was within walking distance of a lot of the kind of touristy shit and even at night like 11 o'clock at night or whatever midnight 1 o'clock in the morning so my wife and I'd walked and we'd go have a drink we walked somewhere it's just it just where we were when we were there and all that stuff everything felt safe and it felt like it was just a great experience we did like a food tour there it was it was great man and and i mean everywhere in

italy that we went was was really great um i like france paris is one of those things like i didn't think i would love it because it's we spent a lot of time when we went to art museums and things like that you know went to the louvre twice but we did this thing where Paris was our first trip to europe and it was one of those things like when my wife and i were dating and a trip like that was a pipe dream like that was something that would never ever come to fruition it was like we talked about it but in my mind i was like hey we're to whatever this was me just being risler right we just just wooing this this girl right about this idea this trip that we would never be able to um and what happened you know 15 years later

or whatever we we were at like a benefit thing we had a little bit too much to drink and we had we had been to disney world before and i know what that cost and we were looking at these like silent auction things there were like several different boards or whatever and i was like saw what the entry level at at disney was with all of the amenities that you got and stuff and i was like man if you can get that one for that price but people were bidding on it but i was like then all these other ones must be a great price for their entry level cost too right and so i was like what if we bid on that paris when at that and we just won't pay any more than this we'll figure it out. You know what I mean? We'll figure out how to pay for it. And we ended up winning

stuff and got there and learned a lot of stuff about it. But my big long drawn-out story here is when we got there, we had all these things. That package included a bunch of things like day tours and trips and things like that. Well, we learned that a lot of times when you're traveling, especially, things just take longer than you anticipate. And so we weren't able to do all of the things that we had scheduled in for our downtime. And so we were like at this thing where we were, it was like our last day there. We were about to get on this like long day trip thing where you're in a group, like a guided tour with a group of people. And we're just kind of like those are, there's a double-edged sword with those.

I mean, there's pros and cons. We learn a lot of things. We see a lot of things in a different way that we wouldn't have, but we're also stuck on their timetable with people that we wouldn't really otherwise care to experience Paris with. You know what I mean? And so we were kind of standing there. And it was like, do you even want to, you know, my wife was like, I really wish we could have done this and that. And I was like, well, let's just call an audible. Fuck this.

And we'll go, whatever. And she was like, but we spent so much. And I was like, eh, fuck it. It's our time. We may never be back here, you know. So like, I told the lady at the window, I just want to let you know. And she was like, sir, it's already paid for. You know, I was like, fuck it.

You know, take that guy instead. I don't care. Whatever. We're doing. So we just like left there. And I was like, you have this kind of moment of appreciation for like, you know, the time value of money and things like that. and, like, just do what you want to do and stuff. So that spot, I would put that on my Mount Rushmore for that.

It was a good learning experience. Prague was really cool. It was one of those kind of, you know, we went to, I think it was last October, went to Munich for Octoberfest, and then we went over to Prague, and we did like a day trip to, where's that, where the sound of music is Austria. and it was a really cool city that I was I wasn't I it's one of those things it was like that was one of those moments I'm putting this on Mount Rushmore thing because it was one of those cities like when we went to Paris we went to Rome all the like Italy places I was like

we're coming back here we're bringing the kids here to the day we're going to do something whatever Prague was one where I had this kind of I have a lot of sense of my own mortality and this was one of those where I had this moment while I was in it where I was able to that this view that this city in this moment right now is one that I'm never going to get back because I'm probably never going to come here again. And it's not that it's not a great city. It's not that I wouldn't go there again. It's just that there are so many places in the world that I still want to see. That one's not as easy to accessible. It's a, you know what I mean? It's whatever. But that was one of those kind of like I do have, I like when I have those moments where I stop in the middle of something really busy and just appreciate it where I am today. and for what it is. You know what I mean? So I put that on there. Alaska, honestly, man, was probably my fourth Mount Rushmore thing.

That was a really, really cool trip. We learned a lot on that one. What we did was we went up to Anchorage, I flew into Anchorage and then rented a car, and then we went up north to Danali. We went to, like, Taukeetna along the way. It's just all up into the upper interior, went to Fairbanks, which that was another one. where we called an audible.

We had two nights in Fairbanks. It was like the most, sorry if any of you guys live in Fairbanks. Your city sucks. And there's a reason why. We just lost Kim. He can't say anything bad about Alaska. Really? Alaska at all or like Fairbanks?

I don't. I couldn't tell you where Kim's at without looking at the map. Well, Kim, the suicide rate is really high in Fairbanks. I'm sure you know that. It's very high in all the entire state of Alaska. Well, Fairbanks is one that's so far north that they have like a solstice or whatever. And maybe it's that way everywhere. I don't know.

When we were there, the guy was, that was our guide, Ricky, was like, telling us all about this, you know. And, like, that was cool. But we got there and we're like, we got to get the fuck out of Fairbanks, man. It's so depressing. There was nothing to do. It did go to a really cool brewery there. Who do, if you ever, if you happen to be there, it was a cool. I just had a thought.

Has that been your background the whole night, Joey, since you logged in? It has. Yeah. And we were literally talking about the Northern Lights before he, even showed up. That's fucking funny. Okay. Because we kind of touched on the Northern Light story before we got this rolling. So I'm glad I piece that together. Well, I think that wraps up that. I got two that stick out to me and funny and funny are embarrassing. I know we're going a little late, but we've got to get to unpaid or narrated, but I want to hear, you know,

make these rapid fire if you want, unless it's kind of worth it. The scar above your eye during COVID. How'd you get that? Is there a good story there? Oh, yeah. So my home gym during COVID, I tried to kind of, I thought COVID would last about three weeks, so I was trying not to spend a lot of money on things. And I make shift, DIY'd a, I got this, you know those, they're like steel plates, they go inside, like if you ever rented like a U-Haul or something like that, there are these steel plates along the edge of those that have slots in them. And there's these big steel, like, clips that are made to clip inside those slots. I can't think of what they're called. It's probably called like slot rail

that's probably what it's called you're a slot and yeah big old slot and um anyway I had got some of those and I was like yeah I can you know I'll bolt this shit to the studs in my wall in here in my spare bedroom and I will make like a makeshift rack and I was like I had these big

ideas for what I was going to do with this and I got it all up my only regret there well not my only regret okay my first regret was testing it on myself without like that's fucking hell moment but like and why did I go full send I don't know but I had all I had were a few plates a very dangerous cap barbell where the the sleeve would fall off and then I had like a whole

bunch of those body elastics elastic bands and like that body elastic things was pretty sweet it came with like a curl bar which actually had bands and stuff and then the bands and I had like a little thing so I had got that I bolted it in and both the several of them in, and I was testing it out, I was like, man, if it can handle me pulling every one of these bands for like a low row, then I am fucking golden. And I did. I like, I put every one of these bands on her for the most that it could do for like my first test. Dip shit. Don't do what I do. And so, and I pull myself and I, you know, get myself in position. I'm sitting on my sweet little hammer strength bench. And I pull it as like, pull it back. And I'm like, testing it before I record. it to send it to my buddy to show him what an amazing you know engine like ingenuity I came up with or whatever I should have been the best fail video ever I should have recorded it because I could have made my content you would have actually gone viral that time I wouldn't oh yeah I shared it whoever shared my yeah I would have gone viral with it um but so yeah I did that I put that on

there and yeah it just I got it back and I was just like right at the time that I was like, fuck yeah, bitch. It like snaps out of, it like breaks the nuts and everything. And it comes out of the wall, rubber band effects, slaps me in the forehead. I get like a three inch gash above my eye. I mean, I could have lost, I was, no, that they literally would have lost your eye. Yeah. You would have been a fucking one eye pirate.

I was playing baseball at the time with a guy who had one eye. And I remember like, not even, I didn't think about. You have two between the two of you. Like, Tori, dude, I could have lost a fucking eye. And he just kind of looked at me. Like, yeah, that would have been bad. You know, and I was like, yeah, my bad, you know. But, yeah, so yeah, it hits me in the eye.

I kind of like, I don't, I didn't pass out or anything, but there is a little bit of time that where my wife said that she could hear me like moaning and I don't remember making any moaning sounds, but I did. I remember, like, putting my hand up and you can feel the blood and stuff, you know. Oh, yeah. That's a fucking ruin the carpet in that bedroom. Head wounds are bad. And so I was kind of like trying to figure out what had happened and whatever.

And like also trying not to scare the kids. You know? Yeah, that's a tricky thing. Holding my head shut and I'm trying to tell my wife like, hey, I think I might need to go to the emergency. Remember this is like early COVID. Oh, yes. You're like you're going in to get stitches like a dumbass when there's people fucking dying in the hospital. you're taking a bed away from somebody's grandma dying because you fucking

patient zero and stuff the longest wait ever you're just sitting in your car waiting for the text and just bleeding everywhere and so yeah i got this i got this all stitched up and stuff and and uh you know everybody at the time or whatever people were like well that's at least you got like a really cool scar i'm like i don't know it's that cool but but that that is what also helped to spiral my home gym into what it has become because my wife I was like okay I think I might need to invest a little bit of money and she was like buy whatever you need so that you don't die and I was like rogue you know so what it happened so I went I got that rogue wall mounted thing and then I was using that and I was like fuck what if this thing fails so you know it's just spiraled

from there everything attributes back to that nice the only thing I'd probably ask I know I I only ask this because someone did submit it. If you don't have a story that sticks out that you're comfortable telling, then we'll just move right on. But someone's specific words were he has some funny white knuckle IBS stories. I was just about to joke before, but like when you, whatever you were about to say, so entirely.

Whatever you were about to say, I was going to say, I hope this isn't about the time that I shit in my driver's seat at 80 miles an hour. But that's, I mean, I don't know what's, I think we have to dive into that a little bit if that's the most memorable one. Yeah, no, man, I've got so many of these stories, and I just love to tell them. Entirely up to you. Like, if you are uncomfortable, we don't have to, I don't want to put you on the spot.

Do I look uncomfortable to you right now? Well, you said you had issues with public speaking, so I don't want to make you talk about shit in your pants if it hurts your, you know, emotional well-being. I've seen your view count, buddy. I'm good. I'm just messing. Yeah. If I get to be at 69, it's a good day. I, uh, so let me. preface this with, I no longer have this issue. I have determined, I have discovered after like case studies, being a case study and stuff that if I don't eat like an asshole, I won't shit up my back. You know what I'm saying? Like if I, if I just, like I went through my whole

life here, like as a kid and when we were talking about being skinny and stuff, like I had this, my life was like eating and I can't get, I can't eat too far from a bathroom because, you know, People would, I just thought that was normal. You know what I mean? I really, I was really bad as a kid also. I'm just that guy that, you know, I just eat and I shit. You know what I mean? Like I got my, as soon as I get out of school, I've got my 315 shit that I got to take.

You know, I can't go anywhere. Like, my first wife would get really frustrated because I would be like, I had to schedule things around. Like, now I can't go there. It's too far from, you know, I have to take a shit, you know, whatever. And I'm not shitting in public. But I'll shit in my pants, you know, but like, no. So it took me a long time to learn that, you. You know, if you just eat like pizza buffet or fried chicken or all these things just back to back to back all the time and don't, you know, whatever.

I, or not you, I, if I eat that way, I will get stomach issues and stuff. And so, yeah, I also did this like young man's game of flirting with the devil where I would eat like an asshole for every single meal as much as I possibly could all the time and whatever and just, you know, with reckless abandon. and then also in my commute to work, because I've always had a commute of at least an hour somewhere, whether if I lived to Muscogee and worked in Tulsa or Tulsa and vice versa, whatever, where I would just drink ungodly amounts of coffee on my way to work, right? And so it's a terrible combination, and it's definitely not a game I'm ever going to win.

So this particular time I'm driving, I know there's only one stop between me and there. It is at a McDonald's, and I know when I'm going to, make it when I'm not and I'm like driving and I've at that point in this particular time where I'm like yes white knuckles I am clinching like my tailbone is popped because I'm clenching so hard I'm standing up in you know my feet are on the floorboard but I am like knees locked standing up you know doing everything I can using every single muscle in my body to keep this fucking demon inside me right and I can see it there's a there's a there's a

a two-mile to the to the McDonald's two-mile sign between me and there and I see it and I just know right at that point it's like you know that phenomenon like when you've got to go the closer you get to your bathroom the less you know what I mean like the harder you got to get I I shit my pants walking into a bathroom before so yeah that's so yeah well yeah yeah like have to throw your underwear away in a fucking or just cut the cancer out with your I was like shit on the floor trying to make it to the bathroom. It's been terrible. Yeah. God, just all your life's decisions in that pile.

I am. So yeah, I'm going and I'm already at this place where I'm like, I'm not, I got to get there. Got to get there. And then I see that two mile sign and it just, I just lose like slowly, right? And I'm just trying to hang on to everything. Like I'm just feeling my dignity, my everything just fucking. leak out of me just like that feeling when you step in the mud you know what i mean you just feel it between your toes except this wasn't and i'm just like i am a grown-ass man driving and so like i

just i basically like at that point what do you do you know what i mean you do that's a sick day at that point i'm probably 40 minutes away from home 20 minutes away from work i'm not going to work you know what i mean like and so i'm just like got to find a truck stop and actually take a shower at I just turned around and went home and I called my wife and I was like I'm just sitting in my own shit dude I mean it's better than sitting in somebody else's like in my driver's seat right like of my different vehicle at the time you know whatever but I'm just like I can't even look at myself you know what I mean like I have got I am a shadow of my former call my wife and I was like I need you to do me a big favor I need you I need you just don't don't ask any questions I need you to

give me a towel and put a towel and a trash bag in the garage and stay away for don't talk to the rest of the day yeah don't don't don't talk to me until I come to you and and you know I will explain did you end up making it to work later that day or did you just take a full blown sick day and begin shame yeah yeah I mean that's fair details but yeah and there were other times, like, where I, like, at lunch and whatever, and I had to call my boss and be like, hey, I'm not going to be able to make it back. And I'm like, what, what do you mean? I was like, I've just, just put me down for leave, you know, in this particular boss was like, super needed to know, you know what I mean? And I'm trying to like, be, yeah, discreet privacy here

as I'm talking about it on my fucking podcast. Well, with, with really low view count, though. Yeah, yeah. So I, you know, I'm like, I don't want to whatever, but, but yeah, I've had, I've got so many of these shitty stories, man. Well, that was a good one. Well, at one point, I do have to do it at no point where you like, am I better off just risking getting an indecent exposure and shitting on the side of the road? God, no. I would rather shit in that chance.

Well, I know how much of a car guy you are. Well, so would you, okay, so your new car, because you have a nice, fancy car now, would you shit if the option was shit on the side of the road or shit in the, because the hard part is if you can just shit in your pants, but like, the likelihood that the shit's not going to come out your waistband or out your bottom. I guess it all depends. If you had a dress shirt tucked in, it would probably all stay in. But if you were just going to wear shorts, it would definitely come out.

Here's what I like to believe that I would do today if I were in that position. I would like to believe that I have so much experience with shitting in pants, in driver seats, in truck stop, shower stalls, or whatever. That I would have the wearwithal to be able to like. pull over, and I would, I wouldn't shit in the driver's seat in my car that I have to date. It has those like perforated seats with, you know, heated. Oh, you'd have to spend like three grand to get a whole new seat. Yeah.

I'm not shitting in the perf, man. You know what I mean? But what I like about this car and what was one of the things that really drove me to it is that it doesn't have carpet. It's got rubber, rubberized floors. Oh, you just get in the back and shit in the back. I could shit in the back. Yeah, yeah.

Just hose it out or whatever. You know what I mean? Like that I could. Or just. keep a garbage. You have to keep an emergency garbage bags. You can shit in the garbage bag. If I still live that life, you know, if Golden Corral-I have you so ate like an asshole.

Or still my, my lifestyle, I would probably keep provisions in place, but I don't... Do you just find that just like veggies and meat is kind of your go-to then? Or like what's... Not, I mean, it's, I can still eat pizza. I just can't eat all the pizza I can eat

every time I eat. Do you know what I mean? Like, if I eat... So doing more like 80-20 kind of thing? I guess. I mean, I just, you know, and I just don't, I just try to, like, listen to, I mean, I have a bad habit of overeating. Like, I don't eat until, I mean, I don't stop eating until I'm miserable, right? And that is something that I've had to try to change is eat more frequently less, less quantity, you know what I mean? And then also, yeah, and just don't eat junk food, like fast, I don't eat a lot of fast food. You know, it's not like I'm eating healthy necessarily. I'm just not eating, A lot of shitty overeating and just a lot of things that people know are just shitty foods. You know what I mean? Joey, does anything else stand out to you before we hump into unpaid or underrated? Do you want to bring up?

No, I had something, but I'm going to just ask it and unpaid and underrated. Yeah, yeah, don't, you're not, yeah, you're not pigeon to hold to what we have written up there. I more often than not find a topic that doesn't fit into the flow of the podcast and just throw it into unpaid. So good deal. All right. So anyone listening, we have a relatively new game that we created here all by ourselves. You know, we've been definitely impersonated by a few other podcasts as of late. But we are unpaid or underrated, and this is our game.

So we're going to ask Jason a handful of questions here, and he's got to, you know, go through and use his druthers. And if he says unpaid, you know, it's probably because it's overrated because no one wants to be unpaid. And if it's underrated, it means it's a good thing. So we're going to have him six individual things and he's going to give us us druthers and give us a solid, paid or underrated for the answer. So I'm going to hit you with a few first and we'll pass it over to my weekly co-host here, Big Joey. Unpaid or underrated.

I want to hear about Disney Cruises. You touched on them earlier. Actually, no. More specifically, you got married on a Disney cruise, didn't you? I did. So getting married on a Disney cruise, unpaid or underrated. All right. Anything specific that stuck out?

um i you know it's something that's probably too personal for me again you know but yeah don't don't don't don't don't do anything your wife's gonna get mad at but oh no no not not no i'm just it like it was one of those things did the family come along and stuff too i guess i'm trying to yeah it was why we got married on the disney cruise was like i had i didn't grow up going taking vacations and things like that right i think that should be obvious given the history i've given you here but um my wife really wanted to take the kids to Disney World. We also had our oldest daughter very linear in thinking and stuff. And he needed this kind of marked. It would benefit her to have this kind of marked moment

where I went from being like the guy on the couch to, you know, being a, having a more permanent role in the home. And so it was like, well, we could do this kind of joint thing where we take the kids to a family vacation to Disney World and then also get married, you know, or something. And my wife was like, well, it could do the cruise. And so it turned out to be this kind of, we went to, we did the Disney Cruise and Disney World. We got married. And it was like, well, if you're doing the cruise, you can just add like another grand or something like that and get married. Anyway, we did that.

And so I've always told this story of like, I'm not like a Mickey Mouse person, but I did learn on that trip that when you do, when you take your kids to Disney World and stuff, like it is not even about them. It's about you experiencing life through their eyes. And so there's like this really cool age where your kids, if they're into Disney stuff or whatever, like they think that you cannot convince them that those Disney princesses and stuff are not real and like nostalgic about it now. And I'm always like, anytime somebody's like, I was like, I'll go to Disney. We're, fuck, I'll go get Disney tattoos. I don't care. You know, I guess maybe I am a Disney. I wouldn't go there without my kids.

I say that. Fuck, I've been there without my kid. Maybe I am a goddamn Disney adult. I don't know. But yeah, no, so totally underrated, at least in my experience. Awesome. Unpaid or underrated, cutting your own grass. Oh, that is unpaid.

Good deal. So if anyone's familiar with Jason from back in the day, I think one of the, when I first met him, probably three or four years ago, when we first started doing the garage room radio podcast that Jake would have us on, it was back when he still had his hydraulic lift or his electric lift to hoist, where his mower sat. on and he actually would hoist it up up into the into the rafters so and then I think once he started

subbing that out he finally was able to get rid of all that contraption. Did you end up selling that whole hoist and shit on marketplace? What did that person plan on using that for just to go up into his attic I guess or like a loft lift of some sort? Yeah, I mean that's what it is. So it wasn't

something you retrofitted like that is exactly word. Yeah, it is made for that purpose. Okay, good deal. I'll hit you with my last one here. Hopefully it wasn't what Joey was trying to pull down. But I saw that you had recently got a, you bought yourself a tattoo gun. So I'm going to assume you're doing some self tattooing. Am I correct there?

Or are you tattooing other people? I haven't tattooed anybody or myself. I've just been playing around with machine. So you're like, you're tattooing on like fruit or something or like some fake thing. Like I don't know what you would tattoo on as a test. I bought some, they have these little ink pins that can go into the gun or into the machine. and I've just been using that to, you know, I'll draw some pictures or I'll print it off some pictures and then I've just kind of tracing it to try to get my hand steady for line work and stuff.

I do have some needles and yeah, normally you would use like fruit where they have some like skins that you can buy and what's the end goal with that then, I guess? I don't know, just playing around with it and see if I like, I mean, if I do, I mean, I don't know any, I don't know if there's anybody who plays around with a tattoo machine. and doesn't eventually self-tenth so I wouldn't rule it out altogether but if I did if I did I would probably just I've got a few areas like on my arms that or at least my right I mean my left arm where they'll charge you like 300 bucks an hour even if you're just touching up like a little spot that didn't get saturated well or something so like you'd have to get so I know how OCD you are you'd have to

get so good at self-tattooing to like touch your body to then like not be upset that you didn't spend $300 I think if it's just I mean this arm is fucking blue I mean it's like 90% blue and I think if I could just say I mean if I I wouldn't go in and try to clean up line work or anything like that on myself but I would I would if I got proficient with filler I would you know with shading and stuff like that I would Okay, well, since self-set, so it sounds like we're TBD on that, since we don't have first-hand experience, so I will throw a fourth one at shit. Unpaid or underrated, trying to sell a lunk alarm in the little brief story that goes with that. Well, that is unpaid.

Yes, I vicariously lived through that through the group chat. I'm like, this motherfucker. Yeah, I didn't, I thought it was a joke about, you know, me, the guy's the guy really wanted it. But fucking Facebook, man, you know, that if you're not dealing with a weirdo, then you are the weirdo. Always one in every transaction. Yeah, indeed. All right. Well, why I have it on the thought before I hand it over here to Joey here.

So I know you don't listen to too much masonomics, but I do implore you to listen to this coming weeks. So the one that will drop Sunday night because you were actually a topic of conversation briefly when they did, you remember where it came up under. I don't know if it came. Oh, no, it came up under, because who didn't, fuck, what was it? I don't remember now, but nonetheless, they basically got them both motivated to talk about if they each were going to host their own,

host an episode of Massomics by themselves and just do a solo thing. So then they talked for probably a good, there might have been about five minutes back and forth talking about, like, how that would work, how the different, how different it would be. So I think you would get some value and some appreciation out of that.

I know I'm butchering, like, because it was during the pre-show or no it wasn't the pre-show it was actually the episode but it was like 10 it was like 11 o'clock at night so I'd only remember bits and pieces of it but listen to next weeks even if you just skim it but somewhere in there they definitely reference your podcast briefly and then kind of go off on a side tantrum tantrum side something uh tangent tangent yeah tangent yeah so with that I will hand it over to my weekly co-host who's always here big joy yeah Unpaid or underrated Name brand Legos Those are also Unpaid I bought a Lego set I don't know

You know what Somehow this came up at home gymcon too Like where I went on this weird Like Barbie and Legos Legos are really fucking expensive And I don't do a lot of Legos Or anything like that

But there was a time there Where I had ordered some on Timu to kind of get my feet wet on Timu, I guess. But it was like a $200 set or something like that. And it was like $30 or $40 on Timu. The box is weird. It's like a weird cardboard. And also the artwork on it and stuff, it's like almost Lego, but it's need some changes.

Then you open it up and everything inside there looks exactly like Lego, but they don't have the Lego brands on the little nubbies or anything like that. everything fit together it all went together it looks just like a Lego thing you know it I don't know what what voodoo they're putting in the Timu Legos or anything but there was one little thing this was a Land Rover model thing and it has a roof rack that's supposed to go on it and the roof rack was all wonky but other than that everything went together just fine so I'm like was there was there shit on the driver's seat no I didn't fit the Land Rover that was oh you're right you're right yeah if you're ever at an auction and you're looking for

Honda Civic hybrid, don't buy one if it's like a tan color with leather interior. The seat shouldn't be tan, but it was brown after the stuff. The but Lego thing, you know, for me, it's just like this mindless thing that you can do with your hands

and and I like that brain space whenever I can make sense. I think I know where you're going to land on this one, but unpaid or underrated, beater barers. where's chippa bars are unpaid yeah i think they're fine i don't i don't really care about what you do in your gym you know what i mean like if you want a beater bar i i just think

they're i think that there it's we do this thing sometimes where we're like you know oh i got to have you know if i got to do this i got to have a beater bar because i got it whatever but i don't know that people really do put it put their barbells through as much as they think think they're doing. Now, I know if you're doing landmine stuff and you're doing something really dumb, like, putting just a, there are times where it's like, I'm not, I'm not putting my barbell through that, you know what I mean? Like my $700 bar belt. But I'm convinced most people of they're doing landmine work should have an axle bar for that rather than like a beater bar that's going to bend and twist and who knows what it's going to do it. But I also think that the number of

people that have beater bars who have actually damaged their beater bar with whatever it is they're putting it through are pretty low. And so if your $100 shitty beater bar can handle whatever it is, then I think you're, you know, whatever your rogue bar, whatever should be able to also. And if you're putting that one through it over and over and over again, every workout or every week or something like that and it's still not fucking it up, then you probably don't need a beater bar for what you're doing. Do you know what I mean?

But, but again, I don't read it. People do in their gyms, but yeah. To me, the only thing I'd have a quote-unquote beeter bar for would be like rack pulls in a rack where I was going to bend it, you know, or something like that. Like a rack pull off pins of the where you're going to be aggressively going other than that. Like, I mean, I don't do landmine work in general, but like it is funny to think about beater bars too because there's people to think would, like some people, the amount of discrepancy between what someone would consider a beater board versus another. Like some people wouldn't ever let a hex bar bolt bar into their gym. So the cheapest be a $200 bar And other people would consider a $20 bar off Craigslist

A beater bar where a lot of us wouldn't let that bar Into our gym even as a beater bar There's that's that's that's my other point too Like there was a while there were my beater bar Was a stainless steel rogue Ohio power bar Yeah What I mean? I was like that is a $500 beater bar versus like a $20

Beter bar so Right Like this is my bead bar now is like a $300 Sarah coat bar yeah I think it's usually a couple things usually it's you bought a cheap barbell and you just you don't you can't really get rid of it like sometimes you have these that you really can't it's not that but it's like you bought a new bar you don't really need the money that you're the 40 bucks or whatever that you're going to get for that

other one and so you just keep it and but it's really it's just like a thing to add to the collection to me you know it's like just another bar to own but I have also seen people that are like all right I got my bar I need to go get a beater bar you know I'm like I'm not going to go buy a fucking beater bar you know what I mean you need just to just acquire one naturally if you really need one. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, one should just appear in the corner next to the crow bar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, from the crowbar.

Right, yeah. All right, got one more for you. Unpaid or underrated, taking a swig of pickle juice in between rounds of wrestling. That came from my brother. You guys picked a bunch of my brothers. You know, I always down for pickle juice. I was actually had this conversation oddly yesterday. told someone about this and also the cold coffee and the cold beans but uh they make

pickle juice beers now and i'll grab one of those if i see one i'm like yep give me give me that pickle juice one um so yeah grandpa wasn't right i mean i'm sorry but he wasn't right either but he definitely wasn't but all right i think uh this is the part where you get to turn the tables and play podcast hosts on us well yeah well first we got let him know he did he did pass you know so we can't air the episode. Well, just barely. Just barely. It was to touch and go there for a second when the tattoo gun, you know, fell short.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. And I do apologize to anyone, any of his friends and family listening that did submit, like, we covered maybe a quarter of what was suggested. It's just, I, I, I, I, we can't talk briefly. And we can't ask him 900 questions. So asking him 20, you know, we'll fill up a podcast.

So we are, you know, sorry if we didn't get to your questions. You guys can ask me to my face. Yeah, at home gymcon, 2026. Right. So I wasn't prepared for it. It's all good. No worries. Yeah, we always, if there's anything, even if, you know,

we always let the guests get to know us a little bit better if they have anything they want to know about us or any, you know, anything else on top of your head. I am going to challenge you as a podcast host, you ought to be able to ask Joey and I both one question of any, capacity just to round this out there's no way you can't do that well i answered all of the questions he had on uh yeah i mean well you've you're very fan yeah i mean well was it did all you you you you like dm'd him basically the answers because he did like call you out asking questions i commented on the youtube okay okay yeah yeah same yeah same difference but yeah well actually joey there is one question that you didn't answer is that is that your grandma's cupboard or is it like a gun safe or is like a gun safe that is disguised as a gama's cupboard?

What is it? It's a cover that my wife got, they think from a friend. I don't really remember exactly where it came from, but it had been like spray painted and plastic chains added to it to just make it look more like something you would find in a dungeon. And so it just ends up being the place where I store a bunch of extra stuff after like my other shelves that also store extra stuff are too full. Right, right.

Yeah, the ever-growing pile of shit, right? I've got like a shit cloth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you put it on a, you know, in a cupboard or on a shelf, then it's organized and you're good to go. For sure, even if you have to stuff it all in there and do that every time you open the door, right? Yeah, well, that's cool, man. that looks that has a very grandma's cupboard look to it you know that's why i was like

it does it does it's cool keith i do have a question for you man on your your you've got gym full of weight plates are they all like york milled or do you have a collection that varies from milled to um so with my daily drivers are all york milled i've got like like i don't with i don't have the spreadsheet in front of me but it is thousands of pounds of york milled I think there's 24, no, 39, I don't, I've got dozens and dozens and dozens of pairs of 45s. I just, I can't even think of how many it is right now. But, uh, so York Mild is kind of like, it was like a 30 year window, you know, I don't have anything that was not made in USA. I don't have anything because there's a, like in the 90s, they started stamping stuff USA because I think they were starting to import shit also.

So there's a way to like, it was their last little like clinging to American manufacturing. and so they started putting USA on it. But at that point, they've already changed the mold, and it's like a half inch smaller plate. So you can kind of, so a lot of the gyms that have Yorkmilled plates are the newer era, like the local Strongman gym I go to,

full of Yorkmilled plates, but they're all like 30, you know, they're not as old as mine because they all have the USA stamp on them. So not as collectible, still good weights. They just don't intermingle with the non-stamped ones as well. And even inside of my collection,

like you could tell somewhere over the years, they either had a different mold on the 45s or they changed the mold a little bit because some you can get like, I don't know, so if you look at your finger, you can get like the whole first knuckle of like your finger on it. And then other ones, you can only get like half a knuckle on. So when you go to pick up the plate, it's literally like deeper or shallower. So it's kind of at some point if I ever get that OCD, I want to like, at least on the dead, well, I don't know, like the deadlift. I basically like, there's got to be a place in the gym where it's more advantageous to have an easier to move plate. So probably not even the, I know I thought about

this at one point. Maybe it was like the squat rack might be easier. because they're actually having to like manipulate the plate more. But, uh, or if I ever had to sell off plates too, I'd make sure I sold off the ones that didn't have the deep lip. Um, but then I have like, I have a bunch of deep dish plates, which are completely different like from the 50s and 60s. Uh, but those are more wall hangers. Like, I'll throw them on a bar once a year just to be like, oh, here's my $5,000 worth of plates that I only paid like $1,000 for kind of thing over the course of a decade. But, uh, yeah, all my daily drivers, I spent, I spent literally five, six years converting every,

everything from Cap over to York and then just growing the York collections or everything in my opinion is considered York Milled era because it's the same like 20, 30 year window. Even inside of that, some of the 25s are different from each other. Like there's, I have a couple pairs that are like a quarter inch taller than the other ones. So like it just, it drives me crazy that when they're on the plate tree, there's a little bit different. So, but yeah, everything is technically, in my opinion, York Milled. And then the only really discrepancy, I guess really is, I've got.

Some that came to me painted different colors, so I had to strip them and repaint them black. So I try to like anything I've repainted for them. I basically have like six plate trees in my basement. I have one that is solely all repainted and the rest are like 90 to 100% not repainted. And there's just some of the change plates are intermingled. But like all the painted 45s are on one tree and then all the change plates are. And then there's some change plates intermingled throughout the rest of it. Because I just, I don't have enough not repainted stuff to like keep it all on one.

But eventually, if I ever, I don't know, I used to always have the thought of like, oh, I want to, I want to sell all the painted plates and bring in more of the patina plates. And I'm like, I'm not investing any more money in plates at this point. Like, I've got so many thousands of dollars and my expendable, my, my, my, I used to make a lot of money selling stuff. I haven't made money. I haven't made any money on the gym in years, really. And my side money from, like, overtime and shit has been dried up. And I don't travel much anymore for work. So my per diem is not existing because I used to put all that money toward the gym.

And like, I've been seeing my. gym fund go from like $10,000 to like $6,000 to like I'm in like single digit low like of money that I can consider gym money right now but a lot of that's also tied up into like a high yield CD thing so it's just making money to travel off of. So you mentioned the casting you can you measure the difference between the cast from one York to the other based on a knuckle measurement one knuckle on one versus a half knuckle. Do you know how many how many grams of protein or a small curd cottage cheese, just a regular pint at one knuckle deep. I do not.

We'll have to ask Big Kurt. He's big curd, and he probably knows all those things. And then it's like, is it your knuckle or my knuckle or Joey's knuckle? Like, there's every finger is going to vary? And is your finger a grower or a shower, you know? How cold is it? I think it's King George III's knuckle is the standard that was used. Nice.

All right. Well, that was good. I'm glad you hit us with a couple there to close that out. Anything else, Joey, before I start wrapping this up? No. Oh, I just realized I budgered. I wanted to put the affiliate ad earlier. I thought, oh, no, no, we're good. Well, no, I did fuck that up. I wanted to note to self-fucking move the affiliate ads up before unpaid or underrated. So the ones we didn't talk about so far, Barbell Rescue, Big Kim. He likes to shit himself, just like Big Jason does. He's talked about that a couple times. Home GymCon come Come hang out and meet all four of us Probably at Home GymCon next year

If Joey can make it out from the very, very far west Ashton Freedom Fitness Equipment He's been at Home Gymcom every year Good guys Help Tommy get all that new flooring Help Brandon get all his new flooring You know I think anyone that's getting new flooring right now

It's pretty much going to Ashton to get that good deal Code unpaid I hope to save you a couple percent there And then Grant has that apparel the strength go help him uh you know keep keep closing that baby of his uh code unpaid at all those locations so help save you a little bit of money uh big jason where they're going to find you at wait before before we go there want to throw a little bit of a curveball one more affiliate to throw in mw big five stays five percent at prime fitness that's true i did forget it but that's a good one that is uh and i do like i can you can tell that you're like how like how many good friends you

have in the community because it's like i can't see that Like, I don't, I don't think there's a day that goes by that someone doesn't say that in the Facebook group. And a lot of times it's unrelated and it's more of a joke at this point. But it's also like, it is, it has to not, I mean, it can't hurt. I don't know how much money you've made off the, actually, without going to too many details, have you, do you think you've made enough money to even pay for the shipping on one of your bigger deliveries? I have done very well with. Oh, really? Well, that's actually good to hear then.

That's, that's awesome. It's been a long time. since it's been a long time, but even since the beginning of it to now, I still think when you take in all things considered, I don't have a big following. I don't have a big outreach. I don't make a lot of like that kind of content and stuff. And I really do, but I have done, I've done really well with that. I mean, there was a time there, like at home JimCon even like Jared

he I've had conference Jared is the like VP CEO whatever of prime and I've talked with him he's told me like you you're like

man who parks and gym link code whatever has been my number one affiliate for X number of months oh wow he was like

and then he was like course when garage gym radio and gluck and stuff like he's like now it's like you're the third the third biggest

uh whatever but those guys all have like a million follows and they all have you know what I mean it's like they're all they all have you're like you're like sub 10,000 on everything so it's a thereabouts we've got the targeted audience 3,400 followers on Instagram right and so I've had these conversations like with Gluck like before Gluck was an affiliate at Prime he was asking me a bunch of questions and stuff about it and stuff and I was kind of given in my experience with with being an affiliate there and I mean like I'm not like there like there was once where Brandon had made a comment about how they had turned him down whatever and I sent him

the information it's like I you know at the end of the day you know what I mean like I you know so but but but you know so I had kind of given him some of my perspective of working with prime and stuff and and and things and um uh shot I forgot my I just lost my train of thought on that but um I don't remember where I was going how they paid your mortgage but sorry no but they were talking about or you know gluck specifically was like i've never made a dime on instagram and i was like well maybe not directly but indirectly you know i was like i'm only on instagram at this time i had only i hadn't even i couldn't have even imagined making a video and putting it on youtube and like people i work with seeing it or something you know what i mean um but

like but you'll docks yourself yeah but i was like everything that i've every i attribute everything that i've done everything that i've received in this affiliation thing to things that I have done either through Facebook like you know it's not just about posting memes it's about what I'm doing on the back side you know what I mean and that's where the like Jared from prime or whatever has come to me and be like I see what you're doing outside of this and people will come and they will tell me like I get feedback about you he's like I've used you as an example in like my sales meetings with my sales staff and I'm like oh I bet they fucking love that you know because you know he's like he's like you're just you know you're you're not he's like you're part of the community you're

answering questions it's not just prime stuff it's whatever and people come to you for this and that and whatever and you've developed this kind of reputation in the community whatever and I'm like I don't that's not anything I've like done I'm not intent it's not like an intention you know like when you see sometimes you'll see people there's an affiliation and people get an affiliation and they're like hey here's a picture of my my you know rotate handles use my code and I know I do that too. I know I do. But like, I think you're probably answering at least one or two DMs every day about something prime, I can imagine. Like, and or publicly on. Never, never, never less than that. Okay. Yeah. So that's, I mean, that's time. That's like, that's like an hour. That's minimum an

hour a week. My family hates me, too, because I will just straight up. Sounds like more than, sounds like more than a few hours a week. I'll jump up. I'll jump up middle of dinner. Whatever I'm doing, drop what I'm doing, go out and like record a video. So we'd be like, hey, man, do you know if, you know, do the cables run this way, whatever. I'll go out and I'll record a video and I'll say you need to, you know, you want to start with this one, you'll need this wrench, you'll move this, it goes up around here, you've got to go through this, don't pay attention to do this first because if you

don't, then you'll have to do whatever, you know, go through all that and it's like, that's the shit and then people then there's like, you know, people will refer you and things like that. And so it's like I know, and it's not everybody does, you know, and I don't care, it's like whatever, but so when I see that in the group, when I see people

sharing my code and things like that and I know that sometimes it's just it's a joke it's funny and that was intentional too you know what I mean for me it's like the if I can make this meme a thing and then get people to where it's then it does subconsciously like even if yeah someone's going to advertising man yeah yeah yeah but also there are people who are like man you know I do this because you're like the OG and you're this and whatever and you've been helpful in this way so it's also organic and I do it's it is something that gives me a little sense of pride in that for sure and you know there have been some that I've seen do that and I've been like

like, man, I really appreciate, I see this, I see what you're doing, and you're helping me, and I can't ever track it back, but I see what you're doing. And I've, I've, you know, hooked people up in whatever ways that I can. I mean, I don't have access to, like, free shit at prime or anything like that. But I can, out of my pocket, out of my earnings that I've gotten from that, I've thrown gift cards at people and stuff like that for efforts that I've seen. Well, it actually leads me to a question then. So unless I'm mistaken, you don't have any main.

parks and gym stickers yet do you i don't i was um you got to get on that and it's it's gonna be it's gonna annoy you because you're gonna have to fuck well do you have it you have a you have a high so i would honestly pay your high school daughter to make up all the envelopes and just pay her like five even even i mean five dollars per would suck but like you got them you're gonna fuck if you start doing it and you have to send out fucking like a hundred stickers you're gonna hate yourself because it's just fucking it's frustrating and annoying but it's really cool to see your stickers in other people's you. I was like, that's really cool to see. But like, I would almost like

sub it out. Unless you have an envelope printer. Right. Then you can do like a mail merge in Excel or something. Yeah, I'm sure you get, you can get nerdy with it. But like, handwriting out fucking envelopes is fucking annoying. It gets old, quick. But getting other people's stickers. I know you, I don't, I know you've, uh, you've evolved a lot of like your gym decor.

So if you end up doing a sticker wall, definitely make it something that's just like movable and like just a poster. poster board or something like that. But I'm not sure how much that you want to get into. But I think I would like, you know, especially now you've been playing with your logos. You've got literally, I think you've got it kind of fine tuned into what you want your brand to be for your personal stuff. So I think, at least I challenge you by next year, home gym con at least have some stickers, even if it's just a minimum in person thing. I've had, I've had thoughts of that.

I've actually gone on several different websites and stuff to create some different ones and put in different ideas and stuff. And, like, I've, I will do that. I just, I've thought about how I want to do it and stuff. And my plan was to try to start building up some and then kind of give them out at home gym con and stuff. Nice. Do both some man who parks in gym and some rep. Like, I got a really cool tattoo, tattoo one for, and so I was like, oh, man, I could get, like, some little temporary tattoos made. You know what I mean?

Like, like, repeat temporary tattoos would be pretty sweet. stuff like that. I've been hemorrhaging a lot of cat room that I'm sitting in. Yeah, I feel that. But like, I mean, wait for the holiday sale at plate snacks and it's usually 20% off or do code unpaid literally, you know, tonight or tomorrow. And you get that 10% off alone. I'll help save you a little bit of money.

You know, there's tons of people who make stickers, but I can attest that I've been mailed probably 10 different company stickers and plate snacks are the only ones that don't suck for trying to turn into magnets and, like, just like the, the thickness of it, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, you have some options on mat and flat and glossy or whatever the fuck, but, uh, I don't know, I'll always push code unpaid for plate snacks just because it's, you know, it helps. It helps us a little bit, but it's also, like, it's legitimately a better sticker than most of the ones that I see. Like, I've, I've, like, some people have, like, handed me, like, the cheap Amazon stickers and I've used to, like, my first batch of stickers was, like, fucking six or seven years ago, and they were the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, you can tell what sucks and what doesn't suck. But I think magnets are the rave now. Like I want to look into doing magnets, but like I also don't want to get into paying two or three dollars a magnet and then ship them out.

And then that gets obnoxious. And I, when I priced them out for my NWP, I was going to do some magnets. And it was like, I just didn't even get as far as the proof because I couldn't get it to cut the way that I wanted it to on the site. And I was like,

I don't want to spend money and not like it or something. You know what I mean? You're about stuff. That does sound like it's, you know, it's on your radar and, you know, you know you're going to go back to home gymcon at this point. So, yeah, if you don't have home gymcon stickers, definitely you got to buy some beer. Or sorry, if you don't have stickers by Home GymCon, you got to buy everyone there a round of beer because that's just, that's the challenge. Well, that's the affiliates. Jason, where are they going to find yet other than Home GymCon with stickers?

So Instagram, Man Who Parks and Gym and Jim and also Rep, Rent, Repeat, and then also YouTube, Man Who Parks and Gym or MWP. and also reprint is also under the garage. Beautiful. Big Joy, where are you at? On Instagram, Joey underscore Mlesco, M-L-E-C-Z-K-O. Go follow my orange gym, the no wine cellar. Good stuff. So we've got an Instagram, unpaid and underrated podcast. We've got the website, Unpaid Internpodcast.com.

We've got a YouTube over there. I am Keith Honeycutt 73 on Instagram. More importantly, go follow Big Joey E on Instagram at Big Joey E on Instagram. I'm sure if you just type in Big Joey or Joey, if you just type in Joey Etchevierre, yeah.

So this would be like the, actually Joey Etchevierre, yeah, sorry, that's like the seventh week in a row I've mispronounced a Spanish word of some sort, I believe. So I'm on a ball there. And someone even, who was it Kurt last week or a couple weeks ago, he was like, oh, I didn't

want to correct you. I'm like, you can correct me. Like, I'm never offended by being wrong. Like, I don't want to be the asshole that says stuff wrong. So please correct me if I say something wrong. Uh, well, everyone except Joey. I don't, I don't, Joey can fuck off. Stop, correct me. But everybody else, everybody other than my co-hosts can correct me when I say something wrong. Um, with that, we'll see you next Tuesday.