Unpaid And Underrated - 126 : Idaho Adjacent (ft. Big Matt)

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Matt. They dive right into great topics like dirt, kung-fu, eithics, writing, and Keith's suprise gym tour. Links Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @fitmattfatmatt (https://www.instagram.com/fitmattfatmatt/) His cats on Instagram @willow_boops (https://www.instagram.com/willow_boops/) On Substack as Stoic Poetic (https://msanchezpoetry.substack.com) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Matt.

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My phone does not run out of battery. battery I wish Zoom would pick up my Aztec death whistle that I could just at the beginning of every podcast be like and welcome to unpaid and

that is not a good impression of an Aztec death whistle man I feel like I haven't recorded a podcast for weeks man man it's good Man, I feel like a woman.

Welcome back to episode. Different voices. Okay. Welcome back to episode. Oh, if I did a whole podcast in this voice. If I did a whole podcast in this voice. Hello, my children. Sit down by the fire and let me tell you this story

of how guys named Brian are ruining. the fitness industry. Like I even know, I'm not even in the fitness industry. I'm not in the fitness pizza in my mouth. I'm into fitness pizza in my mouth. I'm gonna drink this water

in this voice. Was no one else here to make me laugh? I'm Batman. I'm like Batman. For all those not listening, I have a Lego Batman right above my Bray Wyatt toy. They thought, they, my wife, thought that that would be a good stocking stuffer is to have a Lego Batman. Except, he's got little batarangs, and it looks like he's just giving me the finger every time I sit here.

Okay, so I know I started this a bit early, but like, people should be here. People should be here. Da, da, da, da. And welcome back to episode 14 of the unpaid and underrated podcast. I'm a podcast by a crew. forecru. I'm one of your host, Big Keith, joined as always by Big Joy. Glad to be here. Yeah, and then we got one of the mats this week with us. We're going to introduce yourself there,

bud. Matt Sanchez, pretty new to the crew, so I'm just excited to be here. Nice, well, we're glad to have you. Matt, you got anything over there, fancy you're drinking tonight? Actually, in relation to Joey's I have an IPA called Easy Lift with a forklift kind of. Nice. That's actually really, that's like, That's good on multiple levels. I dig that.

It's double level. Layers. It's like an onion. Onion's got layers. Doesn't take like an onion though. Couldn't choose a cake. Cakes got layers too. So I'm, I'm, I think I've reached my final straw with liquid death.

I was excited to try their rut beer, as Tanner would call it. Their root beer, man, it's, it's mid for sure. It's like, I don't know, two and a half out of five if I was to go. and a five, it's not great, but it's not horrible, but it's just so artificially sweetened. Like, I just rather have fucking plain water. It's just, it's, I don't know if it's worse than it. It might be just a hair better than the fruity pebbles, but that's a low bar.

So yeah, man, liquid death is, is it all branding? Like, is that how they're popular? Because their drinks are ass. Like, the normal, just bubbly water is fine, and it's good. But I think it's because of the sweetener. Yeah. Yeah, the agave sweetener is like, it's just putting it in whatever. The agave is what's causing the problems, I think.

I mean, I guess if I didn't drink, like, a diet soda every now and then, like, and this was my only, I don't know, like, this is not a fridge cigarette. It is bad. Like, I'll drink it. And I think I got, like, a four-pack or six-pack of it that I'll have to consume. But it's... Lots of ice, man. Lots of ice.

Toby let me down with this one. I'm going to have to try to pick him up and drop him, but I don't know if I can pick his big ass up. who oh i had a thing with toby i was like toby if it's uh disappoints me i'm gonna drop you from overhead like you drop your wife and he responded with something to the extent of if you can actually put me overhead i'll allow it and i cannot pick up toby overhead so i guess i guess i can't do that but like that's what i should train for like i'm not training to fight the russians i'm training to like be able to push press toby's big ass just so i could drop him every time you train overhead press just like check what his weight is for that day

yeah yeah yeah load on the bar that would oh god i don't need i i i i would have to do like reverse band. He didn't say reverse man couldn't be allowed. So I could reverse ban, Toby. Just a matter of getting a squat wreck tall enough. What about you, Joy? Nah, just some water. I got some Keith's ready

when I'm ready for one. There you go. Wearing this week, I get me a nice little deadlift shirt on the old one, I guess, on the not comfort color. Which one? The deadlifter? Oh, yeah. The deadlift. Yeah, the Budweiser shirt. But on the O.G. Big Matt, what you're rocking?

Which gym shirts that? Which one of the 97 colors is that? It's the Suprino Carpenter Special, the espresso. Nice, nice. The espresso. I just have a shirt that I can wear to work tomorrow. It's one of my Norse Fitness ones. It's already beat up.

Nice. I find it unpleasant to wear limited edition Masonomics shirts to work. Well, yeah, because you're like, I don't want to rip this also. So it's like, you know, to be careful with that. I definitely have, like, work clothes and then workout clothes and home. I have, like, several different wardrobes that don't really overlap very often.

You don't change. We found out in your video. My wife. I just got lucky and have a wife that does laundry every now and then if she knows people are flying across the country to surprise me. Do you want to do your Derek meetup that you weren't here last week to talk about that? Well, I mean, you pretty much already did. We met. I don't remember.

Yeah, we met. We went down to Bernie's, which is where... Oh, yeah, because you met up with him, and then I met up on the next day. You met up on the day, I think we recorded, or the day before we recorded, and then... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we went, saw Mitch.

Mitch used to, when you had more time, listen to our podcast and in the Masanomics podcast. He was the first person to recognize massonomics in the wild for me, and he happens to be the head chef at a really good wing place. So we went there, we had a lot to talk about, talked about horror podcasts, traveling.

what it's like to record a podcast weekly. Oh, that's awesome. How much we love the crew. It was just two guys shooting the shit. And he's a really nice guy. The fact that he even made time to come see me was incredible. Like I said, on my Instagram post, I don't get a lot of visitors out this way. So when he said he was going to be here, I made everything possible to make it work,

including working nine hours and then heading over. And changing my shirt so I wasn't covered in Sautil. just. Yeah. So it was, it was amazing. And yeah, when you talk about your thing, I'll give you my perspective, because it does include some of what me and Derek talked about. Well, I met up with Derek. Met up Friday morning, personally. Like, so there's, like, before I even get to that, I had such a busy day that day, as all dinks do. But, uh, yeah, though the wife had me take that day off. For like, like, like three months ago, she was like, hey, we're going to do something like we're going to do some kind of couples thing I'm not really sure what we're going to

do you know it's a couple weeks for our anniversary it was just like it's just an easy way to celebrate it without like doing it around the holiday and I was like cool dope I don't I don't fucking take half days anymore because you still you go in and you get all the bad of work and you'll get half to pay and then you still start your family shit already annoyed so I'm like I'm like I'm not going to do a half day I'm gonna take the whole day off and she's like yeah fine whatever and then uh Derek reached out a couple weeks ago or so I was just like all right well actually Derek reached out a while ago was just like hey this is what I'm in kind of gave me gave me some options and I was just like, yeah, I'm free Friday morning or I'm free

whatever night, but Friday morning ended up working out best for him. So he ended up driving out that morning. I was coming off being sick for a week. I'm still coming off being sick for two weeks, but I just got some antibiotics last night. So things are looking up so far. Probably, I don't know, he was here for a few hours, at least probably three hours from, you know, we got a lift, a little, you know, I did the gym tour before the gym tour before I knew there was another one coming. So I was just like, you know, I, we'll call that the dry run with Derek, you know, he used the, he was the first crew to use the toilet in the basement and, uh, you know, we got a little workout in. He was, uh, rode as, you know, not familiar, you know, big Derek

for the fireman at a Virginia Beach, uh, you know, was up and doing a work conference, I believe in Niagara Falls area and kind of made time to meet up with Joey, the Cessonies and me over his two or three day trip that he was up here. So very cool of him to do that. And went out, got some breakfast, shot the shit, you know, sent him on his way, 10 or 11 o'clock, maybe about 11 o'clock or so, whatever, he got on his way. And the wife was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, just be free around 3 o'clock. So I was like, cool. So, you know, took shower, lounged around, didn't really do anything.

And, you know, she's kind of like putting it off of, like, telling me what we're going to do or anything because I think Tanner and Tommy at that point, we're running a little bit later than what, you know, one thing, like a half hour, 45 minutes of when she was anticipating them being here, which is not a big deal by any means, but then she had to, like, scramble to, like, figure out how to continue to kill more time. and then I was like throughout towards the you know after noonish I was something's going on I was like you know she has been known she's she's throwing a few different surprise parties for me and thrown a few different to like invited my friends from across the country to fly back and like

spend the weekend with us and stuff like that so that was always a maybe thing and then Nate texted the group and was like I'm in your state and I'm like huh it's like something's going on I don't even know I think I don't at no point that I think that it was Tanner and Tommy going to be coming to the house. I don't even remember if I knew they were doing a gym tour that weekend. I just remember a backstory briefly. It probably was at home gymcon. Tanner was kind of asking how far away I live from Glock and Brannon.

And I was like, yeah, it was like six, seven hours. And he's like, yeah, it's probably not going to work out. So he was already laying the groundwork of like. Making the surprise. Basically letting me know there will be a Northeast tour and that I would not be included. And that we'll get you next time, bud, basically one of those. So at my point, I was already committed to like, all right, next year. So I still got six months to a year to get the gym in shape, you know.

I've got all these little like like fine touches I want to do and little, you know, odds and ends I want to, you know, make just right. And yeah, no, like I'm just sitting at the door and, you know, it was funny. It was it almost got ruined because like the neighbor was outside doing something. And my Stephanie kept looking outside the width, like I have a big picture window and I was sitting on the couch, laying on the couch underneath of it. And she kept looking outside and then like I was just lazy enjoying my day off. So I never got up to look. and then a couple minutes later she saw them walk by and was just kind of like oh shit and then she told me to go open the side door and i'm just like i figured it was you know obviously going to be a friend or crew or something but and i even like as i was walking over the blind was shut but you could see just a little bit of like massonomic shirt coming through the side and i was just like oh cool need's here or something to that extent like maybe because i's like Nate and joey had been talking about doing a movie night and that we record and make that in an episode or something shit and like that was you know oh that that's what that's what's happening cool and then there's fucking like seven foot fucking three, you know, Tanner and Tommy standing on my side porch and just completely

floored me. Everyone saw that little video. That was awesome, you know, they were, I think Tanner was so giddy. They were both just, just happy to have gotten one over on me. And then, like, hearing that, like, you know, a dozen fucking people knew about it going into it, which was great that everyone was able to, the fact that everyone was able to keep that secret was pretty cool to know that, like, no one, no one fucked up and spilled the beans because I think it was worth it.

for to hear them tell the experience. Was it, so on their episode that we will rate later, you know, talking about how, like, they were going back further. Should we still spill the beans? There's like, oh, they've already kicked all the listeners out. And they were like, you know, all excited. They were going to be able to surprise me and shit. And that was awesome. The tour itself was great.

You know, they came in. We just shot the shit for probably 20 minutes. And they were just kind of like, yeah, we really should get this going because we've got, you know, another, you know, five-hour drive to end or night before we can get in a hotel. So, you know, I had done a gym tour before, like some, you know, pretty high, probably professional level or if you were, you know, when Gluck and Winnie and their camera guy came like two or three years ago, and this was a completely different experience because, like, Tanner and Tommy just the most laid back, like, you know, let's take 90 seconds and do an outline of kind of what we think we're going to do and then just do it live. And, you know, whereas Gluck, it was like fucking eight hours of like everything being micromanaged and doing like the same. fucking seen four times and then you know only getting like a seven minute video out of the whole thing i'm like jesus christ still a cool experience but this was uh much more fun um it only took thankfully i i i keep my gym uh what did i say in instagram like uh gas station ready because because like if it wasn't like that would i think the only thing it was really out

of place that i had a couple fans that i wanted to like get off camera because they were just like they're not sightly and then the the deadlift bar was loaded from a deadlift session that more which was fine because I just looked good in the pictures anyway. So, but thankfully the rest of the gym was. That's what I was going to ask if, uh, because for myself, like, uh, sometimes I'll finish a workout and I'm just because it's a home gym. I'm like, I do not feel like pulling that away. I'm just going to leave that.

That'd be tomorrow's problem. Deadlift's the only ones I'll leave. I won't leave. I'm too OCD. Like I can't leave a squat bar loaded because I'm afraid, you know, squat bar or a bench bar won't load a deadlift bar or an RDL bar or like a log as long as if I'm in the garage and I get the log or the axle, like off the crash pads. There's not indenting that.

We're good to go. But yeah, did the tour, did the basement, went out to the garage, came back. And then we probably shot the ship for another, like, hour. Actually, no, we did, the camera, like, I have a video of it. So maybe someday, like, after their video comes out, so I'm not stealing any of their clout. I might edit it up and just throw it on Instagram or even YouTube because it was pretty long. But it's just those two guys doing the blobs. And then I think my Stephanie got in on them at the end, too.

and then uh kind of killed the camera and we just shot the shit for i don't know half hour or whatever and then they kind of did the old slap the knees and had to get on the road because it was i don't know 7 30 or so um and i know they had to start a four or five hour drive to get back out to close to where their gym was gym tour the next day was but yeah i've loved seeing their content come out of it their stories or videos i made a stephanie knew you know i told her in advance but she knew to just like get as many like candid shots as she could and you know so there's a lot good videos, a lot of pictures of that that I had to go through and kind of cherry pick the good ones and make a post of that. It was just awesome. I was very surprised, very, very humbled to be

included in the list. It was very glad that the Sessna's got partake and part, yeah, partake. I'm excited to see everyone else's tours. I was just, it was a very fun, genuine couple, you know, several hours actually. And then, you know, just knowing that Stephanie, Stephanie let me read the text thread that her and Tanner had from like middle of July into July and he was like from the get go it was his idea to fuck with me. It had to be the surprise and she was super excited about that. Like her response was like anything that you can get one over on him essentially is like I'm game for.

So she did great and you know she quartered back the whole thing and you know I got good friends and it's awesome. So I'll give you a brief breakdown of my contribution if you'd like. Yeah. Okay. So I also found out about the same time. And I was supposed to come. Hmm.

And I kind of talked it over and I'll be honest, I came to two conclusions. I didn't want to cross the border. And the second conclusion was I didn't want to take that from you. Yeah. That's smart. I would have been like, fuck. Yeah. I just thought like, no.

So overwhelmed. Let Keith have his moment is essentially the ultimate decision I ended up on. I will say, though, that knowing Derek was going to be there, I did tell Tanner, hey, maybe reach out to Derek, because if he's going to be there within half an hour or so of you guys arriving, like, maybe he won't want to leave, right? But Derek ultimately said he couldn't make that work, and he was sworn to secrecy as well. And then playing a lot of that back, too. Like, I literally saw it. I talked for Derek for essentially three hours straight, and he had to have that sitting on his, like, on his head. And it was just like, that was cool.

Kudos to him. And, yeah, no, hey, Derek had to be back in Virginia for a high school reunion Saturday night. Yes. And it was like a 10, 12 hour on the bike. It was probably close to 12 hours to get back. For me, it was more like, imagine Derek was visiting you and then left and found out later that afternoon. They were there and he didn't know. I was like that's kind of, that would suck.

It was like, there was like a solid six hour window from when he had a hard get out of town. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I will say. being in on stuff is fun but God it's hard I'm not complaining but like knowing like recording with you every week

and knowing Is that anxiety? Yeah Not not spilling the beans Not letting it slip Not even like hinting at it Even when Jess Because Jess posted her photo

Before they showed up at your house I didn't even see that That would be good Because I was just like no Yeah I know Thankfully I was I was just kind of zoned or not watching TV

good yeah so yeah that that was the stuff i i did know about it it was hard to keep it from you i don't know how many people knew but there's a there's a three or four other people reached out in some capacity well a lot of pretty much everyone that was on the uh the the last leg of their tours in south dakota well everyone that they i think that was just a general topic they talked about like hey you know this is what we're doing you know in a month from now when we go out to the northeast and Nate Nate being like oh i'm in new york And then I was like, are you going to Keith? Because then I was thinking, like, does he know too?

Yeah, no, that's, that was actually really, yeah, Nate, Nate was, that was actually good that he said that because that was enough of a distraction to where, like, as I was sitting around the house, knowing the wife was trying to get one over on me. Because she was also, like, super nice and helpful. Not that she's not super nice and helpful, but, like, there was no negativity whatsoever that day, which is. It was like, it was like a maximum of the Truman show or she's just like, whatever. you relax with these coffee beans and you're like what why are you talking like that something's going on is like is it being so weird right now my funeral today i'm confused are you do you bring me here to kill me yeah it's like am i die is this like my last meal i'm glad you had fun i'm glad it was a blast as well as it did

and i can't wait to watch the video i will likely watch that whole video it'll be a long one i i definitely um anything over 50 minutes and about like this is ridiculous it's gonna be every bit. I think it was 50 minutes, honestly. I don't even have the time in between getting home and recording this podcast to watch a 50 minute video. One thing that bugged me is like, since I was sick and my nose was running so much, for some

reason I don't know. I just like, I trimmed my beard with a razor, but I trimmed it down with like the beard trimmer pretty low. And I just don't like, I didn't like how I looked on camera as much, which is funny because like I did that from the time Derek left from the time they got there. So I'm literally like two different people in the same day. But other than that, you know,

One thing I'm not looking forward to, which shouldn't happen as much on the Masonomics video page, it's just, like, trolls being rude and douchey. I go back on the Gluck's video now, and there's, like, seven people telling me how fat I am. And I'm like, yeah, well, I'm like 40 pounds bigger now, so you're going to be really fucking hate me now, you cock suckers. So, I don't know. That's just, I'm hoping I don't see any of those messages. I'm sure they're out there, but I just, I don't need that in my life. so uh and then just i don't know being on camera not being able to prepare like that that is one thing

the one negative i think was like a few times tanner was like but that was part of it i know he's like well how many pounds do you have here and like if i wasn't nervous or if i had access to my spreadsheet or if i knew i was going to do this tour i would have like uh referenced all my numbers because i obviously haven't on a spreadsheet and a dock and stuff and been like oh yeah i have 29 pairs of this and 17 pairs of that and a you know a grand total of like 7000 pounds or something so i was just kind of like oh i got a massonomics home gym tour and I didn't have my spreadsheets man that's you right now that's you right now two guys flew from across the country just to visit me at my own home gym but I didn't

have my spreadsheets relax dude it was it was probably great it was no it was another relax and like all in the middle of that between Derek being there and them showing up I bought a Mars bar and then have a had a had a crew I bought a Mars bar off a crew who just joined crew but he wasn't crew prior and I had another crew that I already agreed to pick the bar up for me and store it so then I had to Venmo the original guy and it was like kind of him in Holland was like do I really want the bar how am I going to get down there to get it it's like three hours away but I was like okay well the other guy said he could store it indefinitely so if I don't get there for fucking six months whatever he just gets a user of marge bar for

six months so I was good to be occupied throughout the day but yeah enough about me I'm that's that was yeah I had a blast we will obviously talk about it more probably as the video, when the video comes out in nine months. And, yeah, Jake's video came out today. I doubt anyone had, I was able to watch it just because I kind of had it on the background on my drive home, but it was cool. It was a long one.

I think it was, I, I don't mind the long ones, especially, well, I went forward to today. I don't mind the long ones when they're my friends. I don't know if I'd enjoy a long one of someone I don't know. I mean, I guess I would get to know them throughout the video, but, like, there's been a very few gym tours of people that I haven't, like, personally hugged in my life. Like, I think most people,

I've had like, you know, handshakes and hugs with that have had their tours, gyms toured at least, the crew ones at least. I like how Jake, you know, they always went back to the whole time that he almost died during the overhead press a couple years ago. And like, that's how like three or four upgrades came from to be because he like damaged him of his equipment. I enjoyed that he did have a pretty detailed story with like almost everything they asked him about. History is the most important of Jim.

Yeah, Tommy definitely. Tommy loved that part. that's why i don't mind when long form you that where there's not time everything has a story and it like follows but things keep moving i like those uh when it's like it feels like if they just edited it edited it then it would be a much shorter video but that one didn't feel like there was any waste of time what they were talking about because like the even the hussafel that they had made out of wood yeah the which i'd never i'd i i would like to actually see videos of him using that. Jake, I know you listen to this every

now and then, so let's see that hoose in action, but... Juddhus? Yeah, he had, Chris, which Chris was... I was actually listening to that episode today. That was his last name. Chris, what is Juddhus'

drummer, Chris, or, well, no bassist, what, X? Why can I think his name? Now, someone in the Discord will know, and they'll make fun of us because we've only hung out with him like seven times. nonetheless yeah I wouldn't who should be interesting to see um I saw on the top it looked like it was like drawer handles from like a cabinet uh and it's like how you move it around so that's kind of just crazy

whatever you attach to it indeed um yeah so that wraps up the YouTube video so that that was their video I think we already we already talked about the other one so yeah I think we're good to rate last week's episode uh Matt did you want to tell us about that and what what kind of rating you'd give it yeah uh i feel like uh kind of how joey is like my gym is a lot of weight as weight kind of thing and it's not always like best items picking choosing what like i want i kind of if it's a sale if it's on facebook marketplace that's what i'm going to go with i'm not going to purposely wait or save for like the best thing ever like something that has aluminum pulleys or something crazy

like that yeah uh something else that was kind of interesting too like just going off the they go on wild tangents the they're talking about hell sizes uh and how americans use anything but the metric system that was funny it reminded me of uh like at home depot they have toilets there and it says like the ratings are like can flush seven golf balls can flush a whole bucket of pool balls or something like that so like this just reminded me of that so uh they also talked about like some of the like things that just have like like nerling that just don't need it so i'll rate it five out of five what will they nerl next i'll go i guess um so my bench also has nerling on it on the handle um but i have

the version two of the fat bench from uh bells of steel and it's an 80 pound bench so the nerling is a little welcome uh just because it does feel better does it add anything i don't know but that is not a light bench. Now that I'm even benching that heavy, I just wanted one that was stable when I benched because my previous one was all wobbly and it was just a bodybuilder bench

and it just started to hate benching on it. There is one thing that Tommy said and now that I no longer work in the industry, I'll give you some insight. The whole wait for the next one, that's in every industry. And it was one of the most infuriating things despite being huge in the Apple scene,

in the cell phone industry, I would always take Apple launches off. I used to hate working during Apple launches because the most common thing you ever got was, do you have it? Can I see it? I'll wait for the next one. And you got that every single launch.

And you'd look at them and be like, like during the iPhone, let's say, 15 launch. Right? Oh, it's too expensive. I'll wait for the next one. And I'm like, you're still using an iPhone 8. I know you're waiting for the next one. You've been waiting for the next one for, you know, seven years, dude.

Like, we get it. So, like, I just don't remember when Tommy said, oh, wait for the next one comes out, just having, like, a little PTSD for my old job of, yes, that is every industry. The next one will be better. The next one, I'm not even going to buy one until the next one. It's like, yeah, then just don't buy one. Shut up. We either buy it or don't.

Shut up. Leave me alone. So I'll give that one, five out of five. We used to be a proper countries. I thought you were going to go five out of five next ones. That would have been my... No, because I also have... There was a...

We used to be a proper country thing that I wanted to talk about when I talked to long. All right. Last week's episode, I enjoyed brief... So I've been able to get Stephanie to consume some of their podcasts

just by being like, it's Sunday night, you know, seven o'clock, there's nothing... We've already watched all the TV that was like a new episode. So it's like, do you want to just watch the Mastonomics podcast?

And she's like, sure. So she'll just, you know, she'll let me throw it on YouTube, but she kind of just plays on her phone. kind of just like consumes it in the background but like more actively than maybe she would like a six months to a year ago to where like she actually like sat and listened to the majority of it or at least three quarters of it and uh you know she was essentially waiting for the the part where she thought they would like kind of sneak peek the the upcoming trip knowing that they were already here and everything so um the thing that really stuck out to me was outside of like the whole preview stuff because we kind of talk about my my gym enough to go over that uh when they were kind of Tanner was kind of shitting on people that like want lighter stuff and I'm like I get it if you're just like you know you're just a bro like but like other people use other people's home gyms like my wife uses my home gym who's recovering from like massive surgery and like can't fucking hold her hands above her head for 30 seconds

and put a 10 pound lap pull down bar on an attachment with shitty carabiners that she can barely open up so like yes I bought a like two pound lap pull down aluminum thing and bought bigger carabiners a big joey hooked me up with bigger carabiners from big american joey um stuff like that so tanner not necessarily looking at things like that no no no no no no and i saw your comment in discord and i kind of disagree with you on this you're not i have something to say about it too yeah you're not an instagram influencer who's telling other people how to get strong okay i see what you mean neither is stephanie neither is any gym reviewers like these those are the people he was you know if somebody's like like perfect okay let's say somebody was like oh they why are they

building a ramp leading up into this store I don't need a ramp this isn't for me and then somebody with a wheelchair walks by that person's gonna feel like a dick but like that person needs it so like you know the idea isn't that Tanner is saying nobody needs me the idea is Tanner, like, this wasn't directed at that one, and I believe they've said this before, not every comment is directed at your one particular personal experience.

So, those things exist for people like Stephanie, and that is amazing. He wasn't talking about that. He wasn't talking about accessibility. He was talking about fucking Jeff Nippered whining that his three-pound thing went up to five pounds, and now it's too

heavy. Like, no, dude, you're jacked, relax, stop whining. So, sorry. I just disagree with it on that. I don't. I don't. No, part of it is me. Definitely needs it. Yes.

Part of it's me not giving, not missing the opportunity of Tanner shit. But yeah. The other side of it too is like like the Redditors or like the gym reviewers and stuff like that. Some of it like the gym reviewers like Luck and Coop, they have to have something to talk about and features. But like some of it has got to be marketing too is if one company says their feature is like it's way lighter. It's aircraft. grade or something they've got to say like well ours is lighter than theirs now it's a market and then then you're selling like luxury and be like uh because i have a higher quality metal

or something else like that that's the other side of it but yeah you have a reason to uh have yours be lighter purposefully for something like that it's just people overly focusing on those kind of things i think that's the overrated part yes yes i have a very important Good call on that one, too. If I buy a 20-pound barbell so my son can come lift with me, you know, like, that's not me being, I wish it was lighter. Like, I literally bought it for a reason because somebody needs it to be lighter. Yeah. I think a lot of part of it is like elitism, too, where people are like, well, I got the best one because it has red on.

It's lighter. Because it's lighter. So sorry, Keith. Did we hijacked you a bit there? No, you're good. I'll still go ahead and give it a five out of five aluminum attachments for my wife to use and to make Tanner feel bad at a lot of So love you guys. Yeah, it's very rare that I disagree with you so thoroughly on something.

But it was one of those, like, because I just hate influencers and I hate people that, like, do that shit just for content. And, but I am a huge proponent of accessibility and, and openness and, like, allowing room for people who maybe otherwise couldn't have access to these things to getting access. And it's like, well, no, it's like, yes, get the lighter attachment for Stephanie. That's awesome. It gets her in the gym. It makes her independent. Of course she needs it. You know, Gluck doesn't.

He doesn't need it to be there. I don't think Gluck lifts, so he might. Oh, shots fired. He doesn't squat a thing. Nope. When he does. Speaking of that, let's move into some affiliate ads. Obsidian is still going wild.

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Nice. Well done. Very good. Lots of imagery. How long did you work on that one? I kind of will go in like spurts. I wrote most of it, like, in about 30 minutes, and then I just kind of added and edited here and there. That was something I'd have to, like, almost, like, just basically put ideas in a notepad for, like, a week and then kind of just, like, pull from it.

I mean, you could, you could always brainstorm all at once, but, like, there's so much. Yeah, there's, like, so much lore, and there's so much stuff that's, like, you want to go with relevant lore, you want to throw some, like, some classic ones in there, and it's, but that was really good. You kind of, you hit, you hit all avenues on that, I believe. Yeah, I, uh, the lines in the sand. I like that part a lot. And then the woolenet hair, I had to include something about that. Oh, yeah, I got to for sure. That's what I was going to ask when they surprised you if, like, that's the first thing you saw was, like, peeking through the window was...

It was the one at the door. I think I've already, like, used the joke in Discord, but I legitimately said it on the couch. It was like, yeah, you guys kept Tommy's wool in my eyes up until coming or something like that, you know? Yeah, Tommy's woolly hair. So, I don't know how that was great. But I think that's enough for general topics. so we can go ahead and kick all these looky-lose out and see if Joey can get that guest on the horn.

Big Matt, is that you? Is that you, John Wayne? Is this me? Yes, I'm here. Oh, great. Hi, welcome, Tonpaiton. You are live. So how you doing?

Doing good. I'm excited to be here. Kind of all whirlwind since I joined Masonomics. We do that. I'm trying to just jump. Jumping through as many hoops as I can, as quick as I can. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So is that a Hall of Fame quest you're on?

Yes. I was actually on the Q&A one. I asked what was the fastest. And they said like eight months. I won't hit that, but if I can get it in a year, maybe. So you had to have been almost brand new to crew then, because, like, I don't, when, when that episode hit, or when that, we've even done a Q&A in a minute,

then, I don't think you've been around. much longer than that. It's been this year. So what is your body count on the Hall of Fame? It is currently three, including today. Still working on the 10 orders and a couple of things like that. I was going to try to attend Crew Falls this year, but it just doesn't work out with my job. But I'm going to try to knock out all the attendance one, maybe, like at least two or three of them next year.

I'm definitely trying to look ahead and plan for that. those kind of things. Yeah, you have to. You almost got to start because it's like, all right, talking to your partner, you're like, well, I need to spend like $7 to $1,200 per weekend. How much life? And, you know, you got to start saving.

You literally had to start saving up for him yesterday. Well, like even the Lift hard, like it being in July is really close to my anniversary and my birthday. So, like, waiting to hear about like when that actually happens. It's just like, I don't want to be like, well, it's our anniversary. I'm out the door. See ya. Enjoy it by yourself. You go to masmonautics.com, there is an event page, and I believe it was updated today with a weekend that it is going to be happening. And then if you tune in on, for more details, November 11th, I believe the episode will hit that we're going to record with the Jake and Abby that'll kind of spill a lot of the beans about that whole weekend.

So, yeah, it's a fortunate when those kind of things line up, and I'm going to try to just jam my way through it. So what if, hear me out. Let's go spend our anniversary in this amazing town called the Dean, South Dakota, where storybooks come true. They sell it. You got to sell it. It's a wonderful land. And like with that too, like she's been, this year she's been getting more into lifting

and she's been like fully supporting me in a lot of different ways. But like, I'm like, literally living. Izzy is probably your best opportunity for your first meet. Yep. We should, I get it ready for that one. Yeah, we rather have crew and crew adjacent than just like randoms there. So that's, I would love to see more spouses come and lift, even if they're not really into Masnomics.

Just a great opportunity. There you go. All right. So what brought you to Massonomics? How did you hear about this? How did you see this? Well, it started just the most people, the algorithm kind of hits you and you see some of the post it was like 2017-ish I was seeing like the versus or the rookie cards and stuff like that

and when I that was like first when I got onto Instagram and just seeing some of that like this is good meme content I enjoyed this kind of stuff and it was just kind of they were always kind of in the background some of the other meme ones like they're good here or there but they were like quality across the board often so I was like they were always in the background uh what kind of pushed me to actually start listening to the podcast and being more more involved was when the CTF started coming out and I was just trying to find another podcast to listen to. So it was pretty quickly when they announced the CTFs like last year.

And I was listening to the podcast and I kept missing when the actual time they were like released. Because they all sold out like, you know, if you weren't in the know, like crew had like 80% of them bought before they went live and any emails went out. So like that was kind of what was happening. And I was like, well, I'm missing this because I'm not crew. I got third round on CTFs and then once I got that it was like February I started buying like a shirt here or there I met a guy actually at a strongman competition I did that also had a CTF so I was kind of getting like a crew test drive part of the way through I was like oh yeah you're cool we have some of the same jokes and then for some of our uh just for some of our non acronym friendly guess you just wanted to explain them what a CTF is real quick if any case? Like a certified training facility

Like on the map of like all the home gyms, yeah I think I just figured there might be one person out there listening that just doesn't put There's always one what is the WUTBA PC? I don't think I've ever heard anyone say CTF but like I could be context I knew what it was instantly But like I don't think we use that one often enough or at all but maybe we do maybe I just didn't see it but yeah good deal I've seen Tanner use it here and there as far as like or like At least he used it the acronym because it's typing out the whole thing. So I just used to call it that.

It was actually in August, I believe, and that's what pushed me to finally join, was I had a guy that is crew, message me and say, like, hey, I saw your gym on the certified training. You mind if I come by your gym and come lift? That's awesome. I was like, okay, cool. I checked his profile. It's a private profile. And I'm like, I don't know this guy. I'm going to request him.

and then I talked to him and message him for two seconds I'm like okay this guy's cool he's gonna come by and we had like

a great time I was like this is awesome if this is like not even being in it yet and then I'm having this good of a time it was like

five minutes and we were like best of friends nice and I was like do you want to name drop who that was or you know

someone there was big Adam he yeah he's big Adam on on Discord and then he he posted

it on the Discord. I saw, like, he shared a screenshot of it. I was like, well, I'm 90% the way there. I might as well just start giving them $3 a month. So I joined and I was like, okay, this is, and it's been up. Just kicking yourself in my ass for not being here the last four years. Yeah, I've been missing it. Yeah. Yeah, you're, I needed. So just so people know, who are you on Discord? I'm fairly certain I'm aware. On Instagram. On Discord on Dirt McGirt, uh, uh, ODB reference uh just last name being sanchez was a reference to dirty but then on instagram i'm uh fit matt fat matt nice i am familiar with both of those guys correct o ddb dirt mcgirt uh in between that was in between o db and big baby jesus he was dirt mcgirt

matt uh where where do you live where you're from uh i live in spokane washington uh and uh I'm originally from Lubbock, Texas, kind of Panhandle, came up to here for the Air Force and just liked it here so much. I just say, they have Army brat and then moved back to Lubbock, Texas, Panhandle, basically South Oklahoma, flat, dirty. So there's a, that's a decent amount of crew in Washington then, because, you know, where you are in correlation to Big Joe or Big, well, no, well, there's two Joey's. out there now, right? Big Joe DeShazer, and then Big Joey, Ezevera? Joe DeShazer is in Olympia, so it's more like Seattle area kind of down south from there. And there's also a guy kind of central in an area called Tri-Cities, Nero Pavlo. He was actually the guy I met in the, at the Strongman competition, as soon as I had my

CTF, my training facility visit, I said, you got to get in on. crew too so I oh nice you've already you've already indoctrinated that's that's incredible that's cool and like a rookie basically gets someone Tanner loves to hear it

just on the other side of oh he just hears chuching that's another three dollars I'm on the west side of or east side of Washington yeah gotcha so not not not so

Idaho but yeah I'm Idaho adjacent got you and then they're the other side of Idaho, there's deadlifting Jesus and Big West that's on, uh, just outside. I saw you, I saw you posted a picture of Big West that I think I, I think I'm pretty sure I might have it. He went, he was at Lift Hard Lifty, wasn't he? Yeah, that was, he said that was his first meet, uh, he went to, uh, yeah, uh, I went and visit his, uh, gym as well.

That's awesome. Yeah. So it's, I love hearing crew, I love crew that live anywhere close to each other meeting up. Like, that's awesome. That is, I'd live for that. So beautiful, beautiful, beautiful so being we'll call you a rookie here and then uh you know you haven't even hit your 10 orders yet so you probably have a long list of things that you're trying to get your hands on so what's that one thing you've seen your buddies wearing or seen on instagram that you went to go by and it's just not there uh some of the some of the big hitters like the yeah buddy uh some of those like that's like uh is going to like the original crew member uh dodds uh red uh lift hat with the black glittering. I'm a, I'm very much a hat guy. I got like 60, 70 hats. Like, if I get my hands on

a red lift hat, that's, that's the holy girl for me right now. They haven't done a hat. I don't know, I don't know. But I'm not supposed to buy them. I'm not supposed to buy them. Yeah, don't buy their hats. No, he says that, he said, um, never say never or something like that when somebody asked about bringing back hats. It's never said never, anybody anything. Like, I think I, I can't remember if I did, did I already make a meme or, if I hadn't, I'm going to, or just like a stock template of Tanner's face with never say never on it and just post that anytime someone asked like is this coming back yeah and it's like a Tanner sound board of some of yeah Tanner's yeah we'll have to get Tanner sounds from Nate Tanner bot um yeah you'll never get that hat though no no I'm sure

you listen to Dodds's episode I just want to goddamn like OG masonomics t-shirt that just says massonomics with like the original logo no that's like that's your man no that's like I said, Holy Grail, like, I'm never going to see it. Like, if I, I feasts eyes upon it or if they, any way it touches my head, I might melt or something like that. I'm not worthy. So what is, obviously, you have a CTF.

Actually, is it CTF or CTC? Is it certified training facility? Because we have it in our... CTF. Well, we have, I'm only saying we need to go back and edit our initial dock because we have at a certified training center. So... Who did that? Probably you. You fucked shit up all the time. It might have been me, honestly.

Yeah, I was going to say, I would have put CTF. I would have never put training certified training center. I'd type in all that. Yeah. Right now, no essays. That was you.

Note to self. Go back into my, my blank doc that I copy everything into each week to change that one. I like that you were about to ask, too. Is it, is it CTF or CTC? I don't. Don't,

don't. So what's the name of your fancy one out there in Idaho adjacent? It's the buffet. And I've considered. That's really funny. I've considered getting a second one because I have, we live in a split level and I have a secondary gym area that I call the snack bar. Do I need a second bar?

So I have the buffet and the snack bar. It's a detached garage kind of thing. But yeah, buffet, the FitMat, Fat Man thing, it kind of relates buffet, like the play on words buff and all that. Oh, I dig it. I do enjoy that. All you can eat weights. If you get one, if you ever buy one, I'll think about buying one.

He's never going to stop. He's got so many food puns for his gym. Do you, we're, oh, geez, did we ever talk about how me and Steve used to make random names for, like, when I first started lifting? Because I saw somebody on Instagram. Oh, like, you didn't know what the name of, like, exercises was or something. No, no, no, no. So I saw somebody on Instagram bragging about how they only used to be able to lift two

discs. Now they can lift two discs. And I sent it to Steve and I was like, the fuck is a disc. Yeah. And then when we were like working out together, we would start calling plates, uh, suggested servings and it was only 45s. So it'd be like throw three sort of three suggested servings on that.

Like, that's actually that's that's a new story actually, I think. Is it? I don't think I've heard that one. Yeah, that was me and Steve like right, right before COVID almost. That is good stuff. Um, big Matt, uh, let's see. You had about 10 people submit the questionnaire. so I appreciate that.

Yeah, like a lot. Well, my coach submitted twice somehow, or unless he had more to say. Yeah, I'm not. It all compiles into like one copy paste thing. And it's not, I don't like, we don't see who submitted what without like spending a lot of time in the docs. So like, I'm not like actually saying, hey, Joe Schmo asked this one and Joe Schmo asked that one. So, but generic question basically is just when you did send out the questionnaire, well, did you keep it simple of like, hey, just answer this for me or do you have to explain mass and not? and then explain you and you, or how'd that go in general?

I think most of my family and friends know that I'm, like, into, like, whatever I'm into, it's either, like, a little off-center or just a little bit different or just, like, not the normal, like, mainstream kind of thing, uh, just being, uh, self-admitted hipster on things. Uh, I think, they just knew that, like, if I said, like, I'm on a podcast about a podcast about lifting stuff they were like good enough you're whatever you're into uh they just went with that uh and that's what everything that i tell people and like if i make a joke in discord i'll reference it to like my co-workers i'll be like that podcast about a podcast that's that's that's that's what i'm talking about so the one the only reason i i always said every week but one

the one thing stuck out to me because someone in the one of the one of the submissions specifically i think mentioned like your podcast talking about us but i think they were still talking about massonomics just by reference because I was like I don't think they know who we are so he probably most because most people just say hey you know that massomics thing like I'm going to be on a podcast kind of like that just to make it simple but it is always cool to hear that story because this is like it is somewhat invasized like if you see the quiet like you feel the question or yourself it's like pretty like you know invasive invasive evasive no invasive invasive is like invasive questions we got to okay so we got to clean this up a little bit because

So the way that it comes in is the docs, it points, it names everybody. And then in a second paragraph says who they are. So like, you could technically be like, Jo Sanchez is coach friend fellow, like lifter. But you have to like jump back and forth. But I do want to point out the very, very important thing about commas. because in here it says

younger brother parentheses 11.5 months younger parentheses comma cousin comma sister-in-law comma cousin if those commas

weren't there I would have been very confused also somebody named raccoon put some stuff in here yeah that's another one of my cousins And he, so quick aside, he's trying to go to the Arnold, uh, dressed as a raccoon in a raccoon suit.

He's got on Instagram suit. Uh, but it's, like a raccoon, like, Halloween costume with where you can see his face. Uh, and, uh, he gets like a certain amount of followers or something. Uh, it's raccoon reps on Instagram, uh, shouting out somebody else's Instagram. But, uh, yeah, he, he's trying to get like 10K followers. or something and he'll wear a raccoon costume to the arnold next year so that's another reason for me to get another checkmark another hall of the same thing make go see him with his

laughing laughing your cousin in person yeah all right well we're moving us along we got are you familiar with least fun most fun a little game we play here yeah you just give me a subject and I tell you both like what is least and most fun about each one about this specific one first person I get that one in a few weeks so yes least fun most fun and this one might be a little curveball so explain to us what it is and then your answers for anyone

that's not familiar so least fun most fun consuming Fred Meyer holiday commercials so that must have been my wife the most fun about them is well like I'm not familiar

or if I am I'm not aware of that I'm like familiar Fred Meyer Fred Meyer is a pretty big grocery store kind of somewhere between a grocery store in an apartment store, they're huge. They're like, they're like a fancy Walmart, I think.

Target adjacent. Yeah. But they all, it's like somewhere between all that and a Costco. Like, it's that big. They'll have like a full on like, uh,

clothing section like with like everything in it and like home goods and stuff like that. Basically a Walmart. Yep. Fancy Walmart heard. Yeah. Um, any time around the holidays,

they have commercials with these little cartoon characters with just these nubby little fingers that just they're just so like obnoxiously adorable and cute looking and then they'll have like the most sentimental like pull at your heartstrings kind of thing and I'm such a baby that every time I see one about those kind of things like it'll start I'll start to tear up and just like I'm the biggest baby about like sweet sentimental family stuff and Christmas and Thanksgiving those are like my favorite holidays. Nice. So the least fun, most fun. So the most fun about those is that I just get excited about when they come up and they're really cool. And they feel like it's an ad. But it's still like I'm not cynical about it. So it's a nice thing not to be cynical about those kind of things.

But the least fun about that is that like I know it's coming up and my wife will look at me when she sees a commercial coming up and she's like I know this is going to get you and I'll be like yep yep like I've seen this one before but it's still like those stupid little cartoons didn't have to be that adorable this year but they did they did everybody showed up for Thanksgiving for this family I'm glad that I enjoyed that that was a good that was I'm glad that hit well so I assume Fred Meyer is not the answer to this next question so who's the who's your hype person for your next big lift living dead past present uh-huh i don't know i would firstly i would like my wife would probably be the first one uh the couple of times that she's been able to come to

some of my power lifting meets or strongman uh some of the texts that she'll just send like while i'm like i feel a lift or i don't perform as well it just kind of bring me back to center but she doesn't also hold any punches. It's like, yeah, that performance, you sucked on the Hercules hold, do better the next one. And it's like honest enough, but still supportive. My coach does the same thing, but since I've lifted with my wife, like any time I've hit a PR in the buffet or something like that,

in my home gym, she's been awesome. So she would probably be number one on there. So she would be my high person. Good answer. Smart answer. Yep, smart answer. Okay. Tell me why you get called dirt so much.

You know why. You know why. I don't have a mustache right now. My wife doesn't like when I grow a mustache. But my last name is Sanchez. And when I went to basic training, when I joined the Air Force, everyone has a nickname and everyone, like, just how he's gained that camaraderie. and dirty Sanchez.

And finding Wu-Tang was a good thing because then I can go dirt my Girt and go that route. So that's where last name's Sanchez is the big reason why. Okay. Okay. Since I did the FitMat, fat man thing, and that's what everybody sees and most people that I work with now, I'm more fat-mat than dirt or dirty lately.

So is your last name actually, Sanchez? yeah okay so like that brings not just because i'm not just because i'm Hispanic i guess no i just thought there was a ton of references happening i was missing out on but so wait you had a mustache and they were like your last name is sanchise oh yeah you're the dirty sanchise that makes yeah yeah i bet they call people that's so easy boo boo he probably doesn't have to have a mustache to still got the same name just yeah but that's low hanging fruit for sure he's got a moustache's name is Sanchez, oh, dirty Sanchez. Like, Scants is old.

Like, we get it. So you mentioned the Air Force. Is that what your 9 to 5 currently is? Is that what you still do? Yeah. What do you do for them? It's what brought me up here to Washington. For Idaho, Jason.

Yeah. For 11 years, I was, my job was ammo in the Air Force. So I was here and we basically are, customer service to give people bullets and that kind of stuff. I don't do that anymore, but I do something very similar. It's a supply job. So anything that

anybody needs to fix a plane or training gear, that's my main job right now is messing with the training gear for like gas masks and stuff like that. I joined the guard three years ago. So I liked Washington so much. I decided to stay here, join the guard. So that's what I do now.

That's so cool. At the beginning of the year, I went to the London Air Show. And they bring up a lot of American planes. And I think it's called the Osprey. Is that the one that can go from helicopter to airplane? Yeah, they're like the propellers rotate up and down. I love that plane. Like I, like, I've never felt more autistic in my life.

I was just like, I'm like, oh yeah, cool, this one's fast, cool, this one's big. And then I saw that thing and I was just like, I'm obsessed with this for the next 24 hours. like so we went and met the pilot and everything like that yeah that's right now air shows are cool air shows are cool we uh had a couple up here and this first time i got to see like the f35 and it could do the v tall vertical take off lifts but like it will do this in the air it's like a kid playing with like a cool toy yeah it can do that kind of flying and it's like mind-blowing we live in the future future is now actually what's funny is that live right by the canadian national uh warplane Heritage Museum.

And it is not uncommon to see war planes flying over my house. It is, and you never stop. You never stop stopping what you're doing to look up and try and guess what plane it is yet. Four propellers, that's got to be the Lancaster. Like, every single time. Sorry, that was fun.

I don't think I've ever talked about that. So. As far as lifting, so lifting to get in the military, lifting throughout the military, just lifting high school. Let me hear that. all that? I was not much of a lifter until deployments, because there's nothing else to do. So I grew up as a soccer player, only kind of joining and doing soccer stuff because I like to do all the tricks,

the juggling and stuff like that. I like that more than I like playing soccer, just like old school YouTube videos set to remember the name, that rap song by was it Fort Minor. so it was those it was like highlights and stuff like that but uh my lifting came in much later uh living in the dorms i just like uh the bird king being next down the road uh dominoes being able to deliver all the time just went off the deep end and i was like at some point i got to start getting back in shape if i'm going to be in the military i got to get back in shape so on deployments i was like i'm going to get strong uh and figure this out uh got introduced into like more heavy lifting and i just tried a little bit of everything but uh just shooting for like 2017 shooting for the thousand pound club i was like okay i'm going to like build that up and uh just started working on that so like 2017 uh came back and they have the seer uh search evasion it's just like basically a special ops here in washington um they have a nice like crossfit stylogin and it has like every

that you could want everything that you could like a big rig uh logs a pit shark everything i was like all this stuff is just super duper cool i love every piece of it i just uh youtube everything i could find and figured out everything and i was like i want to know everything i want to do everything and just powerlifting strong man and just never look back nice you do uh what do you for coaching or anything right now are you on the jug on any of the jug or not just kind of self do your own thing? For the most part, I'm on this, the boost camp app is just one that came off or Reddit.

I thought about the jug and might eventually go to that at some point. But for the most part, leading up to a couple of competitions, had a co-worker that I used to work with back in my old job, who's very big in the powerlifting. He's gone to USPA nationals, PLU nationals, James Kitt, Koenig. He's one of the people who responded on the questionnaire. He's been my coach, and I throw him a little bit of money. He's got his couple certifications, and he knows a lot about lifting. He doesn't pull any punches on, like, keeping me accountable on stuff.

So leading up to some competitions, I go with him. And he kind of helps me dial in and not, because I'm a huge overthinker on things, and I will give reasons why I can't or why I should do this, why I should change that, put it in his hands and let him run with it. Yes, you say it, I'll go do it. Nice. That's what's nice about Juggernaut is I, like, I also will talk myself in and out of things. But if I just open it up and it goes, this is what you're doing today.

It's so much easier because then I'm just like, this is what I'm doing today, right? It takes that overthinking out of it. Yeah. I think it would be the other way around. Like somebody telling you what to do. You're just like, no, you're not the boss of me, but no, it's the opposite. You're just like, oh, the numbers are there. I got this.

Yeah. The moment the app is like, calculate your percentage of this and this and this. I'm just like, no, I'm not doing that shit, right? Like, just immediately I'm not doing any of that. I'll find something else to do something more fun, like lift this rock. Yeah, if he gives me something, then it's all on my other side to be like, okay, now I can focus on some other things, like my diet, my sleep, and all those other things. Like, he says I can do this.

It means that he thinks I can do this. And it's in my realm of possibility. But I actually need to be prepared to actually show up when it's time to do those. If I don't eat enough, then I go in and I'm like, hey, I don't have it today he'll be like figure it out kind of thing

and I'll be like shit you're right okay I probably should have ate more today okay I'm gonna I'm gonna knock it out so like that's been a huge

thing because he he'll hold my feet to the fire in that way and that's awesome I appreciate that a lot so this thing behind you with the crazy lines

it's a mirror no those ones i know the other one is that the pantry it's a it's a pantry yeah it's all wallpaper that we put on it is just a cabinet okay it's just like a white like flat pack cabinet that we spruced up and made a little more aesthetic so you didn't do that my wife did okay uh but you used to be artistic yeah yeah um more like what my biggest thing was like graffiti is what I used to draw more of. That's so cool. It was primarily in sketchbooks.

I've tagged like two things in real life. We found banks, you guys. We found him. It's me. I'm him. Dirt McGirt, bit match I met. Yeah, all the same guy.

That's great. So what are you up to now? I'm seeing, obviously you're into poetry. Yeah, primarily writing is my biggest one that I will do uh poetry primarily some narrative stuff done a couple of things writing a novella that i i've gotten 70 pages in and haven't looked at it in three years a couple of things like

that a couple of things i wrote for school as i was uh is all stuff you just have on your computer or do you have like a yeah yeah a public blog that it goes to or anything like that i do have a public blog, but that's more related to some of the like, to get in a rogue affiliate, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have one gym related thing on that thing.

But it's mostly about like stoic philosophy, just because during pandemic and everything, it's just easy. Like, I found something that I could go on to and learn a whole lot about was stoicism. Yeah. Who didn't get into that during

the pandemic? Like that? I saw, such a huge rise in stoicism can't control anything what what what what was the philosophy about that oh stoicism so i have a on substack it's stoic poetic and i write about uh that kind of stuff and i made one actually about power lifting about that that's cool and i also wrote one about uh lance more said song ironic how it actually is ironic but yet to know what ironic means kind of thing and like the different forms of irony so i wrote that as well so that's where most of my writing goes to right now is that and then poetry nice that's cool like how the whole song is she's listing things that aren't ironic so therefore

the entire song is ironic is that your yeah that's kind of end thesis yeah and but there's also like some of the like the Greek plays and stuff like that it was like irony was like the gods interfering and like the humans didn't have control and all part of the song is just like crazy things happen well that's the gods interfering and affecting her life and making the irony that we have control of our own life, back to Stoicism. Great Canadian, I'll know as far as that. Great Canadian. Let's hear about these cats. I've got a couple of people commented about your love for your cats or your effects. There's cats? Are they there? Can we see them?

I wish. I'm not seeing it. I saw like three different sweet-ass cats that work today that were like super mellow. It was actually kind of cool. My wife holds herself up in the office and I think the cats are with her. So they're both in there. Rude. She said no cats for you guys. How dare she? Don't show our cats.

I got two Siamese cats. They actually have an Instagram themselves. Oh, no. That I haven't posted on in two years. You slacker. That's not very stoic. Or is it? Google Sto.

Yeah, they're both Siamese. One, Jekali, his name is, based off of a Belgian chocolate company. My mother-in-law named him. And is there a, do you abbreviate that or shorten that up at times or you literally say that every time? That seems like a mouthful. We call them, we call them Boops. We call them Japoops. There's a million names. Everything except the name that your mother-in-law picked. Yeah. Hey, cat.

Yeah. And then we have another Siamese that's a chubby one. Her name's Willow. So her nickname goes like Willow pillow and a couple bunch of other things. Yeah, two Siamese cats. Instagram, Siamese siblings. Oh, that's cute. That is adorable. It's Willow Boots. That's the way.

That's Instagram. I want to hear about you dressing up as Johnny Depp from Willie Wonka for some kind of high school dance. That must have been my mom. Back in eighth grade, this eighth grade banquet, got a limousine for like a couple of my friends and stuff like that. And dressing up, yeah, at Spencer's, I think. They had the Willy Wonka jacket, and I was like, that's super cool. Yeah, it was like the velvet, like Johnny Depp jacket, and I was like, that's super cool. I want that.

I got it. Got the goggles and everything, dressing the shirts. And I was like, I'm going to this thing as Johnny Depp's Willy Wonka. So I had everything decked out, and I had longer hair back than, like, shoulder length. And it was strained and, like, perfectly, like, bobbed like kids was in the movie. So I was the, I was the cool guy for that, uh, that, uh, that, uh, eighth grade banquet. And I, I rolled up in the limousine, just as Johnny Depp's Willy Wonka. Nice.

Cool beans. Um, I hear you have a, uh, impression, uh, Christopher Walkin and Joe Dirt. Is that something you wanted to share with the, uh, listeners? Oh, my God. Put you on the spot there. I'm not even that, like, good at an impression. I don't know. Someone, someone says impressions.

We've got to hear it. We only had a handful of guys who do impressions, so. It's as good as anybody else's Christopher Walken, where they're, they emphasize, like, a stabbing in the face, beside a night. Like, you just emphasize a lot of the different pots. Like, it's not even that good. It's just as good as anybody else's.

Yes, it worked. It's the easy ones, right? There's the Christopher Walkin, the Arnold Schwarzenegger. there's what's the other reason one Will Shatner Yeah

Those are all the The easy ones I was doing I was doing Will Shiner I was doing Christopher walking today at work

Because I walked in And somebody was listening to Don't Fear the Reaper Yeah And just immediately I got a fever The only prescription

Is more a cowbell Yeah But I mean It's always fun To do impressions It's one of those things We always wanted to ask

Everybody every episode was do you have impressions? Do you do anybody else? My wife actually just said I went from Christopher walking to Colonel Sanders in the middle of that impression. She's listening to making fun of you.

I was just walking around doing Bain for no reason today at work too. I don't know why. That's another thing that got me into lifting was Tom Hardy's Bain. I was like, he's a short dude that's jacked as hell. I'm 5'9.

I'm on the low end of average height. I'm going to get jacked. Yeah, buddy. You merely adopted the doc. I was born into it, molded by it. Yeah. Yeah. So what I'm doing while you guys were talking is I was adding things to unpaid and underrated, so part of me if I seem distracted.

I'm not usually this awake during these. So like, yeah, I'm suddenly so prepared. It's only your second time, I think, doing the seven o'clocker. I'm something so prepared and energetic and I'm just like, I have all the things. Let's talk more. Let's hyperfix it on impressions for a minute. So the whole, the fit mat, fat mat, is that,

so did you end up changing your Instagram just kind of to be like witty? Or was that always what it was? Because I kind of take us through your, you know, your journey. Is it something, is it more of a bit or was it something you actually kind of like, you know? It's always been that when I first like, okay, I want another accountability machine was the Instagram thing or another spot to be creative as well

it was just like I was trying a couple of names and I didn't want to do the dirt thing again because again the easy joke and stuff like that I wanted something that could be that I could take on further and like the two sides of me the Fit mat and the Fat mat

like I like to lift and I like doing like things that are just like about seeing how fit I can get but I like enjoying things in life and things that like food like really good things and that's like my other like face is the the fat mat side of like i want to binge on what not binge but like indulge is more appropriate word on things so it's like that's the two sides of me fit mat fat mat and just like power lifting

and like strongman puts them in the same lane together so like that's where that name came from came from my wife again she's She's the, she's, all my good ideas are for me. Nice. Yeah, yeah. When she did tell us, another thing that you really like to indulge in, and she has to kind of put a throttle on you to keep you from doing it too much, is going to knick-knack stores and, you know, Goodwill's and all that. And she's had your whole house to be full of random shit if she lets you run wild with the credit card.

Oh, yeah. It's a lot of little things like that, Legos and stuff like that. I'll have like 20 Lego cars. But like, that's where a lot of that stuff has fun. into the gym just like little random toys of just like a just like different things I'm interested in I have like a skeletor like one of the big bobblehead looking toys or whatever a couple of those guys so I let all those kind of things go there just like little little cute little like porcelain things or anything else like that like knickknacks are cool I like having

being able to collect that kind of stuff I'm a big I've throughout my life I've always been of a big collector of things. That would be me in Halloween decorations. I have to get talked out of that a lot. Look at this stupid little skeleton. Oh, look at it's shaved like a mouse. Oh, that's so funny. No, you don't need a plastic skeleton mouse in the house.

Yeah. What do you think about those like 10 foot skeletons people have? Like the giant ones, people from the yards. So I'm for them. There's a new one now that is like a demon zombie guy. And it's eyes light up and that one's been kind of escaping. Everybody's been, if they have one, they usually have the other. But I don't think I would take it down.

I would just leave that up and probably like, oh, it's Christmas, put a hat on it. Like, I would just. You need to put a beard on that one too. That's hard to leave easy. That is funny, yeah. That would be funny. That would be. It could have a giant one.

It would actually be witty. So you have a deal with your wife that looked like that she can get his, many tattoos that you have or something like that is that uh is there a story there do you have a lot of tactic i can't really you and do you have a mostly like my arm uh where i have most of them decent one size on my back one of my thigh you have a giant panther right yeah yeah yeah uh there was uh i had probably like four or five but she hadn't zero two years ago uh and now she has like 14 all by the same artist but like as soon as i was like it was a flash special they did during uh valentine's day she got just a little bleeding heart just like right here but she was like oh that's

cool and then she kept just like well should i plant another one and then she got another one and then like she'll get one and it's just like the outline is like well in two days i can get one somewhere else uh and then she'll get another one so she has mostly a leg sleeve done after having zero tattoos two years ago that's how it gets how it starts like yeah i'm all i'm decked out i got the fridge magnets going right which where it's just like just slapped on different dumb things yeah the first like four or five were uh like trying to have meaning behind them and uh like this is why i got this one and then eventually it got to the point where i got a frog riding a motorcycle because that looks cool as hell i want a frog riding a motorcycle

I wanted a lightning bolt and had a hundred bucks There's a lighting bolt Perfect Yeah the shock we go to They have all the artists And all their flash things And there's a bunch of different types

Of the artists there I'm like No now I'm a collector I want one from every single one of them Like I saw that flashy So let me get something off your flashy And then let's do an original piece That's two pieces right there

That's the way I go with it Sorry Keith I kept interrupting you there No, no, no, no, no. I was trying to segue into something. I thought it was going to be more funny because he said pieces, but what he was cooking wasn't something you would eat in pieces. So have you figured out the difference between baking soda and baking powder yet? Oh, geez.

You know, tell us that one. My wife does primarily most of the cooking. I like learning about cooking and getting better at it. But it's just kind of a regular thing that I cook breakfast in the morning on Sundays. Yeah. So, I'm following a recipe, and I thought, I was making pancakes and did one for the other. I couldn't tell you which one was which or which one I got wrong, the soda or the powder. But I made the pancakes and they wouldn't rise.

And I was like, I don't know what's going on here, taste these. And she's like, these are crazy acidic. These taste terrible. Like, my tongue's burning. It's like, she looked in and she was like, did you use this one instead of this one? And I was like, I don't know. Yeah, they'd be baking. Yeah, because baking, I'm not a cook either, but baking.

soda and that's the shit you put in your fridge to fucking odors away, so I can't imagine that would be acidic. So I did the wrong one and the pancakes were completely inedible. It sounds like it. Another one that she

I don't know if she put in there, the flour and the powder sugar weren't labeled. So I was trying to make something, bake something else and I put multiple cups of powder sugar and that flour would not mix, would not combine the exactly

completely the wrong thing. So I'm not great at baking. Cooking's okay. Baking is a science project. You know, I'm going to do one thing here. And it's a little out of the ordinary. You know, we request submissions all the time from people, okay? And a lot of the time, they're going to be silly.

They're going to be stupid. They're going to be inside jokes. We get a lot of the same. stuff over and over again. And a lot of the time, we also get that this person's a good person. We get that in every single submission.

This person is a good person. Except for that one guy who is a piece of shit, you know, but we won't name names. Yeah, we won't name any names. You know who you are. And normally we would take, we would filter through these and we would

be, but there is one submission here. And I'm going to do something out of the ordinary. I'm going to read this fully. You don't have to tell any stories, you don't have to, but I think I just want to see or hear you react to this one because when I was reading this, I reacted. Okay?

You can tell us who this is after. I used to call myself Super Santos. When I was a kid, and I tied towels or bed sheets around my neck as a kid and jumped from the top bunk and land on my feet. One time, my mom came running into the room because she heard a loud thud and a scream. Matt was lying face first

on the floor crying he told our mom he tried but he couldn't fly like me little does he know I've been trying to fly like him ever since that is so emotional and so heartfelt

and like I said normally we get that this person's a good person and like sure we're all good people that's why we're a crew but I really wanted you to hear that submission because that was gorgeous it is very nice but fuck that guy because that's my brother

he's a little much younger than me in high school in high school I'm turning the same thing right back around on him I'm a year older than him I'm a grade above him and I had some of his friends coming up to me and like oh your son is his brother

is like no he's my brother I'm the older one so there was a lot of times growing up we did have civil ring rivalries And it might have been more my side than anything of, like, he's very more gregarious, very outgoing person. And I just kind of was like in my own little world. But like, we're close enough in age. We're basically the same age.

That it's a lot of that kind of thing where there might be jealousy one way or another. And it might, probably mostly me. But with that, like, it's cool to hear him say something like that. And he's somewhat of a writer, or he considered himself a writer, too. And that he would write something so, like, that Fred Meyer commercial, that pinprick to my heart, pull those heartstrings. He's been getting into lifting, too, and I'm telling him to join crew. So that's going to be his get back is that he's had to join crew now. Because the lift are leaving easy next year is going to be around his birthday.

that has to be his first meet too. Only if he comes out as Super Santos. Yeah, he has to come. He has to do strong men and he has to come up with the Cape. But yeah, no, that's super awesome. And I appreciate that. That's super awesome. I like hearing that.

That's a nice thing to hear. Thank you. That would be dope. Thank you for that. Like I said, I read that last sentence and I was just like this is somebody who clearly loves this guy. I'm glad you know that because I was a good writer. I think I read like 80% of it and just kind of trickled out

and didn't get the last line that kind of sent it home. So that's good stuff. That would be cool. Does he consume anything in Masonomics at all? Or is it just wanting to get into it? It's only been as of late of things that I share or mention. Because I try to make, because I've been given them, him and a couple of friends from high school,

I've been giving them advice like lifting stuff. And I mentioned that weight is a number, heavy as a feeling. They were like, oh, my God, that is so good. We should go with him. I, like, show my band. I was like, it wasn't me. I can't take credit for that one.

Yeah. Make sure you remind them to listen to Massonomics on how to get strong, stay strong, and use your strength. That's step one. Yep. How old are you, Matt? 33. Okay, good. I always like to, like, give me those ages, but a lot of times can just glaze over it.

Yeah. That would be cool. Because, like, when you mentioned getting your brother, if you get your brother into crew, I was trying to, like, name all the sibling crew that we had. haven't I other than Jake and his brother like I don't do the Phillips count no they're all cousins are like spouses no you got you're Ryan and Tommy yeah but Ryan never talk the caveat of that is Ryan nor Tommy are supporting members so I can't really count that you know what I mean like like Ryan was Ryan Ryan was in Ryan's in discord because he held Tommy set it up but I don't think he's a

pay whatever I mean he's a gym member for fucking 15 years so who cares but like he's technically not a support i don't to my knowledge last time i talked to him about it he was not a pay and supporting member um just because i don't know it would be some people like that have been that close to them so long it's kind of like well i'm not going to start randomly giving him you know i've been giving them 60 bucks for 15 years to be a jib member why would i give him three dollars a month because i yeah he pays the jib dues i think that's enough i get it but it's like as far as like legitimately being supporting members yeah yeah i put the caveat as in like they are not uh but it would have been the spreadsheet yeah so i

So, yeah, anyone listening, if you have a sibling and crew, let us know, because I'm very curious. I'd like to, you know, just be aware of how many crew. I mean, I've known Steve since I was like nine. Does that count? He's Uncle Steve to my kids. Does that count? No, no, no, no. All right.

Anything else you wanted to hit on for a week? Taking nothing seriously. FMK? Just one thing when you were talking about Fitmat, Fat Matt. I went to a fair on the weekend and as we all know fairs are the the place to be fat and yeah I'll tell you what I had

and you said because I'm the same way too right like for the most part I eat the same thing all the time right I rarely ever go off I had a popcorn chicken poutine and it is fries and gravy and cheese curds with popcorn chicken and then I added hot sauce that I found at one of the booths and it was so rewarding I love that kind of stuff

that's kind of what I would do like I used to work at a Sonic drive-in and I would kind of put the I would put the most crazy combinations together for like our leftovers I'd be like I'm eating this yeah this is gonna hurt i'll pay for this tomorrow we're like when the when the fat hits my system and it has to do what it does but for now my my aunt had a mexican restaurant and when it was my lunch break i would go to like this the where you like put everything together for a plate and i would just grab like my bowl like it's a goal bowl and just like that that that all the way down that's what i'm making food anyways is it's just like everything so i just put everything in the

ball and I was like that was my lunch Brian they put that on top someone that's worked in food service also do you find that as a negative so I'm with the caveat of the meat so like when I worked at Outback when I worked at Applebee's wherever I've worked at a few different restaurants like you and you you get your free comp to meal the day or whatever so I'd make it myself and make it like the most gluttonous like add extra cheese you know make a make a ranch chicken I would like make shit up that like didn't exist and you'd make it as fat as possible and like broil cheese on it and shit you know I had like I had like my go-to things like what I would make it out back, would I make it Applebee's.

And it's not something you get on the menu. And if you did, it'd be like a fucking $90 thing with all the upcharge of the stuff. So, like, never being able to eat those foods again that you concocted as like a line cook or something. It's kind of like, I kind of miss that sometimes of like, man, that was like the perfect storm of like just the fatness of fatness. And now I can't do that again because they would upcharge me for, you know, all those extra patties as Grayson's aware of. When I worked at Taco Bell, they had first released the cheesy gordita crunch. which is a gortita, melted cheese, and then just a taco. And I said, well, what if we took that steak taco with the lime sauce?

I don't think they do the lime sauce anymore. And you put that in the cheesy gordita. And that alone would have been like a $15 meal, but, you know, you work there, so you get it at 75% off or whatever. And I'm surprised they never put that on the menu because I would tell other employees to try it. And they would be like, you're right. This is the best thing ever. Yeah. I have a theory about Taco Bell, Jack in the Box,

and I think Carl's Jr., like the Hardee's, whatever, I think most of their stuff, because especially a lot of them are open to like 1 a.m. or later, I think most of the menu items in my brain come from, like they source it from either drunk or like high people that work there. They were like, I put this shit together. This is crazy. Put this on the menu.

And then they'll bring them to like corporate and then they'll test it out and be like, you know, this shit is the bomb. Let's put it on the menu. But I think that's where that's, thing comes from. Okay, yeah. I was 16, so I was none of those things at the time, but it definitely was my greatest concoction. All right, Keith, you want to move into some game? Yeah. Big Matt, do you want to explain to your family and friends listening for the first time what if MK is? Because some of them didn't know. My wife didn't know, and that probably had

effect on her response. There's three things, and they might be things that I all like, or things. that are related to each other and I have to pick one that I want to book, one that I want to marry, one that I want to kill. Something Mary-wise is probably something that is more important to me, but it's like a passing, like fancy that I'm like, oh, that's interesting. I really like that. I'm attracted to that. Kill is just like, I don't care, put it off the list. Indeed, indeed. That's the most in-depth explanation we've ever had. It is. I've been thinking about my response the entire time I've been going through the backlog.

Nice. How are I going to say this? And FMK for me, though, it's a little harder. I think Joey does have a little bit easier with Rushmore typically because Rushmore is just a topic and you just run with it. Whereas FMK, people only submit topics 90% of the time and then I have to come up with them anyway. So it's like, it's just like I might as well not have asked because I'm just, I still have to

do all the work. I agree. I was about to say like if you want to switch, we maybe do that for a few months or something. I don't know. I would definitely pull things out. Yeah, I don't, I would we could switch. I mean, not tonight, but because I've already picked what I wanted to do. So, uh, but yeah, no, I like that. We might do that next. Crew remind us to switch next week. Um, FMK. So, uh, one of the random suggestions was Tarantino movies. So I pulled three of those out. So let's go FMK. Pulp Fiction. Kill Bill. Django and Chained. Ah, see, that's where FMK gets hard sometimes because, like, Like, if it's all things that I like, then I'm in Univet. Well, yeah. Yes, you have to kill the one that's like third place. You essentially have to put them in, you have to put them in first, second,

third place, and then third is killed, even if it's like your third favorite thing in the world. Unfortunately, despite how good, there's so much of it, and I think some later Tarantino has high quality in it, even though they're not as much history behind it as some of the Pulitzer's Reservoir Dogs. and that kind of stuff. I think Jenga and Chade has to be killed. It's very good, and the fight scene at the end where he's just blowing away all these guys.

Didn't mean for that to come out that way. He's shooting all these guys. And there's just like so much blood and everything. But I probably would say that I would fuck Kill Bill because that was probably my first one where I was like, I knew of Pulp Fiction. Kill Bill's coming out.

Kung Fu stuff is really cool. I grew up on that rather than Disney movies and all that kind of stuff. And it just had, it felt like a lot of his movies feel like someone who likes movies, make it the movie. That one felt the most like that. So it's just like, it's just so indulgent on its references and that kind of thing that I'm like,

this is just an homage to that style of movies. part one and part two that I'm like Kill Bill is like a movie lover's movie so I would say that marry Pulp Fiction because

it's probably one of the most quoted it's probably the biggest reference one that people will do all the time it's always there I know I was mentioned on one of the backlog episodes as like when the movie that you're scrolling through TV

if you're like at a hotel for whatever reason and that movie's on I'll always watch Pulp Fiction no matter where it's at it's not a linear told story but like a lot of stuff isn't

so you can just kind of jump in even at the Christopher Walkin part of the I want this watch in my ass I had this hunk of metal in my ass there's so many parts

of like each part of it could be in his own movie the Z's dead baby like people make reference to that like it's it's an EDM band like it's in the zeitgeist is there it's so much in the zeitgeist that I I can't imagine

my life without Pulp Fiction I think nice so if it was like not that we're going to do at Mount Rushmore but if it was a top three would Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill be in the top three for you? I think so okay then what okay so then what's your third then if it's not Django and Chained

briefly just uh I'm curious of someone that like likes all because like I had to like go through the list because like I know a lot of movies at top of my head but it's like I wanted to pick yeah I wanted to pick kind of three different ones and uh so what would you consider your third favorite it's a more it's a more recent one but I would probably say once a part of time in Hollywood okay I oh that was gonna be my other that I almost put that one in and I was like it's newer maybe people would jango and chain to be more popular but I like that movie uh just the different parts of it and then just like

the creative license that the that the Charles Manson's kids went to see that other guy and they just kill all of them, they blow them away. That was very like the alternative timeline thing. Survives, yeah. So I think that kind of stuff. And then there's the line, that's probably one of my favorite lines from all those movies is when

Brad Pay is like, don't cry in front of the Mexicans. That was like one of my favorite lines of that whole movie. Like this is, it's a more recent addition to his filmography, but it like,

is huge and it holds up. Didn't he say he was only going to do so many movies and then like retire or something? I think it was like 10. But did he not stick to that? Because I think he has more than 10, didn't he? We would have to cut him out. Maybe I'm wrong.

Yeah, I don't know. Then you count like some ones that he's like is not his movies, but like he like helped like Dustal Dawn or like what was the other one with the car? Him and Robert Regis died a couple. Death proof. death proof and then there was a

I'm not sure he did true romance like if you count those like ones that he's been involved in I don't know uh big Dustal Don fan big Dustal Don fan there was a TV I'd never watch the Dustal Don TV shows I did actually I might

I think it's been on my watch list for like years I just never got to I did watch the sequel of Dust Till Dawn which was fucking horrible but yes it was it was still watchable so mount rushmore i'm not going to do any of these do it don't yeah something else you said uh inspired me um because it's all the same it rock rap artists restaurants all that so uh mount rushmore kung fu movies oh good oh that's hard um it's long as hell and but uh all film nerds all uh people that are into them like it's high on their list is Kirisawa's Seven Samurai that's high up on there just because it's such a cool movie

and you kind of need the little break in between to kind of enjoy the whole movie that's got to be high up there Seven Samurai is super cool and the fact that it's been made into westerns comes back to Kill Bill that he put both of those things together

that it was just like they're both they're essentially the same story Magnificent Seven and Seven Samurai, the same movie. So that's on Mount Rushmore, so it's four, right? Then I would probably say Kill Bill is up there. Kill Bill 2 is not a Kung Fu movie, but Kill Bill 1 is. The Chinese connection probably would definitely be up there with Bruce Lee. Was that the...

No, or was it a game of death? It was the one with Cream at Abdul-Jabar where... Is it the one where he died in it? Was it a game of death? That, I think that was game of me. Wasn't he already dead in one of them, too? And it was all like... It was like half shot.

Yeah, I thought the one where he fought Kremead Dol Joubar was all just a stunt double for like 90% of it because he had already died. I think they filmed, they filmed like some of the main and fight scenes, but like stuff in the middle where he's like wearing the helmet. That's basically a reference to Kill Bill where she's wearing the yellow, uh, like motorcycle suit. It's the same thing. So those two being connected, so I said, Game of Death. Chuck Norris was in Game of Death, too. I just, I had to just a double check. That's where he ripped his chest hair out.

So he had to, like, fight all the bosses or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The different gangs and shit, I think. Each, each level was a, each floor was a level. Mm-hmm. Or each. Till Bill. Do I, do we count old boy?

I guess I have my druthers to say that. Is it a Korean old boy? Or is it the... Korean, Korean, old boy. I've never seen the one with Josh Brolin. Don't. I think I've seen both. Yeah, I watched them in the wrong order.

I remember watching the American one and then the Crean one and being like, well, I wasted a movie. I should. Just the hammer scene alone of him going through and smashing all these people's feet with a hammer through that hallway and it's all filmed like from perspective of the hallway. and just like the fact that everyone's just kind of like exhausted and doesn't want to fight anymore and guys are just like throwing things it's just like such a cool long shot that I'm like that has to be up on there that's that's such a cool one um the hallway scene got really big after that eh yeah and it's short enough that you could put it into like a tic-tok or a reel or something you'd be like craziest uh action scene from a movie or something like that well in the

I mean like the idea of the hallway fight scene because it started being in like every movie the one panel because I think when they did it it was a 2D thing and then it was like they would switch to the one panel Daredevil the TV show did it amazing like an homage

yeah I don't know if you've watched it but they did it amazingly I don't know because I would say the Matrix had one but I don't remember which matrix what was the original was at the end of the original matrix when there was the big yeah they had one because that would have been a year earlier

in like 99 i think yeah the original matrix had like the the pillars and they were like going back and forth on the pillars and all yeah it was like in a hallway and then there's the one with christian bail uh where he's in like the white suit that was basically uh another matrix uh where he has the sword um if i've seen if i've seen some more of the references that are included the wu tain songs going back to pinchebacera's episode of him saying uh the jiza uh the the samurai assassin or whatever or the assassin something that wasn't even supposed to be on the album

that I found out recently. It wasn't, all the excerpts from that movie weren't originally on the cut the risen out of them afterwards and the Gizzo's like, the album was better for it. If I would put some of those on the list

but they're, I can't because I've never seen them. Jackie Chan's drunken master those that's up there me and my brother we've already done four but if we want to talk Kung Fu movies I think we've done 69 yeah if you want to talk Kung Fu movies for a few minutes

I have a recommendation as well that's funny you're talking about my final one my alien head whatever that's your alien face yeah I would say like where he does the Drunken Master stuff where he like punches and like he does the wave stuff we would recreate all those scenes all the time in our living room oh nice so

Jackie Chan's high up there for all his movies. Yes. Well, all of his... Rumble in the Bronx and everything, yeah. All of his... Those movies he made in China or Japan or whatever he made in Southeast Asia. Because, like, the rest...

Like, a lot of his American movies are shit. When he became a star... I like Rush hour. Rush hour was good, but it doesn't hold up. The first one, I think. There was one on Netflix that I watched, and I don't normally try and binge a TV show as fast as I do.

can, but with this one I did, it's called mercy for none. Mercy for none. I got to write that down. If you liked Old Boy, you'll like this one. Because I live, I, well-known fact about me, I love noir style storytelling. Yeah. And this is like, like, very

stylized, yeah. Yeah. So, if you liked Old Boy, you'll love mercy for none, for sure. Cool. I'll have to check that one out. All right. Well, you passed from Mount Rushmore for sure. He did. It was funny. You guys were talking about Kung Fu so much because I listen

to a lot of like movie podcasts where they talk about like 80s movies so the last dragon was like just a random movie. I've seen that movie a hundred times so it's like listening to a pod. Like it's funny because like usually they do movies that I don't even need to watch the movie because I've seen it at least multiple times as a kid or whatever so there was a shit ton of kung fu movie talk on that

and so then it was just kind of very similar to what my night ended up being so I enjoyed that. Like my dad's or like like I said my dad showed us all of those movies because that he grew he came from Mexico and the 80s is when he learned English and all those movies were big at that time so my Mount Rushmore would be like 70 movies long I could put showdown

a little Tokyo on there as well Brandon Lee all right Gulf Ungren like let's take a good movie I could go on for what it is some of those yeah we would be remiss to forget Kung Pow yeah yeah like that should definitely be up there that's one of the best kung fu movies ever made

Kung Power, The Legend of the Fist. All right. Well, we still got another game to get into, but I'm going to hit you with some of the... Keith is like, shut up. I'm not even talking about that movie. Even if we move on right now, we'll still be over two hours. So that's my only goal. And you got some doors to go sling tomorrow.

So, and I got to go, I got to work a full day. So let's see. Affiliate ad read. I'm going to hit you guys with the remaining ones here. So, you know, God damn it. Ever since Joey fucking said something about me saying, you know, it's all I fucking hear myself say. So the affiliate links here.

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explain unpaid or underrated to us? It is a completely original game that unpaid is things that are not good because they're not paid for, or you don't get paid for them.

I'll relate them both to my poetry. Unpaid is underrated is my poetry because a lot of people know about it, and I think I'm pretty good. Unpaid is my poetry as well, because nobody wants to

fucking buy my poetry every time I try to submit so that's unpaid or underrated. It's funny. All right. I'm going to hit you with a few here, hand selected just for you. Let me hear your opinion,

unpaid or underrated, shoe collection. I think they're underrated. I think they can be unpaid if people purposely only buy the really expensive ones, the certain Jordans

that only come out of a certain amount of time, and then rise the price up and buy like crazy ones. I've never bought anything higher than retail on shoes. I think they're underrated. If you pick shoes that you like and you want to buy just because you think they're cool and then you wear them as like a fashion statement, and you're like, these are my cool shoes. Occasionally it would be something I'm deadlifting.

Some of them I won't even go near a puddle or if it's raining, I won't ever do that. Some of them I just think they're cool and I'll just wear them for whatever. And what would your wife have to say about your fondness of shoe collections? It's usually a last minute given is like, do you really want these? Do these mean that much to you? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, these are the ones I want. Okay, he's never going to stop that. I guess I was fishing more for, do you give her a hard time when she gets her shoes dirty or something to that extent?

Oh, no, yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, I want to hear, I want to hear that. Couple spat. Let's stir the pot. Recently, in service to be more fit, Matt, I've done things to help myself out to be more healthy. I've done, I had a deviated septum that I got fixed, and I use a CPAP now, so like, my recovery is better. While I was going out and I was fading away for my deviant septum surgery that they were doing. they were asking me about my wife and I was telling them about her and I was like they asked something like does she do anything to annoy you and I was like no not at all except for when she

messes up her fancy shoes that I bought her because I will buy I'm such a collector that I'll buy stuff for her that she didn't know I can vicariously enjoy it and it's like it's yours but I got I got the I got the serotonin or whatever for buying it yeah yeah I bought her the dark side of the moon Masanamo shirt, that's hers. Oh, dope. Nice. All right.

I'll do one more. If it doesn't land, I might do another quick one. But if you have a story with this or not, unpaid or underrated, a bunch of unanswered DMs on Match.com. This should just be the Matt talks about his wife podcast. When I

first got up to Washington, Idaho adjacent. I was just kind of hanging out and then I was just like I want to meet somebody up here I just don't want to just hang out of my dorm room hopped on match and there was I didn't go like crazy that I didn't slide into a million DMs

but like flipping through it was like oh that print seems interesting hey I'm mad how's it going next one oh cool you're cool how's it going 10 15 people no answers and no responses and she's the only wanted to respond. I was like, well, I guess I got in one. Nobody else answered. I didn't need anybody else to answer. So I would say unanswered match.com responses are probably underrated. Nice. I mean, I'm glad that's, I didn't interpret that quite, I think in my head I interpreted as in like, you have a bunch of responses you've left on red basically or left on under. Oh, no. I got left

on red. Yeah, that's even like, that's actually funnier. So that's not where I thought it was going though. Yeah, I will accept that as my third and final, and hopefully Joey asks some good ones here. There's a lot of good options. Yeah, there is. I think my first one would be when you were looking into Stoicism, how much other form of ethics did you look into before deciding on that one? I think it was just straight up just the one, because there's the guy Ryan Holiday who has all the quick grills and stuff like that. And I was like, what are you saying? makes a whole bunch of sense and then I started digging into it started reading some of the books like meditations on audio book I I used to run to that like listen to the medic uh marcus realis

meditations um I was like this is the one I I like learning more about a lot of the uh other classical ones and I'm also interested in like any of the Eastern religion slash philosophies of Shinto Buddhism that kind of stuff I I want to know but I I think stoicism it was so practical and it's more just like a self-help

from 2,000 years ago that I'm like this is the one okay so the one I was going to ask isn't going to land unpaid or underrated pairs unpaid as much as I like

indulging on different things and trying all different kinds of foods pears raw pears specifically are to me just mostly flavorless and just always mushy they're not an enjoyable thing to eat pair flavored things pair inside different kinds of like a pastry or something I'm all for it but a raw pair completely unpaid and how long did it take you to tell your wife this yeah there was a story that we want to hear come on don't don't bury the lead so most of the time if she hands me stuff I really don't have

much like straight up dislikes about things I want to try everything I'm interested in anything when we went to Hawaii with her with my in-laws there was like a whole fried fish and I remember seeing like Anthony Bourdain or something they ate the eyeball

and I was like I'm going to eat the eyeball I ate the eyeball so like there's nothing off my list that I won't try but if she's like hey I'm going to get us some pairs what do you or which kind do you like and I'm like I really don't like them they're not like my favorite thing

and she's like I don't know this about you because like I don't hate them but I don't just like I don't like them enough to be like yeah those are my favorite those are the ones I'm going to pick so if if it's a choice between multiple fruit I'm not going to pick a pair because I think they're unpaid. She said you'd been eating them

for years and just didn't tell her that that she would bring them on a plate for you with breakfast or something to that extent or yeah yeah that that was the whole thing that we read and that's why we're kind of fine that's what it there it is there it's fine yeah it's fine i didn't have to make it and you yeah i didn't have to make it and you made it this is the best thing ever thank you i don't eat food i'm gonna eat it yeah it goes back to the do you realize you've been eating the same sandwich for three weeks nope nope nope didn't realize it thank you for making it i have zero complaints i can

get off my brain sometimes it's like food food is it's just its macros sometimes to me i'm just I'm okay with that. As long as it's not a pair. Yeah. But if there's a pair in front of me, okay, I'll eat it. Whatever. It's not my preference.

Unpaid or underrated? Let me set the scene. You're scrolling through Instagram and you see somebody and let's just say they're setting up a really cool deadlift. And you are like, hey, that's a lot of weight.

This might go really well. And then they pick up the weight and they cheer, then they drop it and blue or pinks. smoke flies out everywhere. Yeah. Undpaider underrated. I think the idea of gender reveals

is okay, I'm not going to, I'll write the line on those. But when it's like hobby specific or just to appease the whoever's like thinks it's above them to have the gender reveal, but they have to do it in their cool way. So they have to do it with like a lifting thing. or something related to that, like, I think that's totally unpaid. Like, you can be more interesting than just your hobby.

Or, like, you can, or if it's something like that, if it's not necessarily for you, you can indulge more towards your significant other's way rather than just like, this has to be my way because I think this is cool and this is the only way I'll show up. I think that kind of idea is unpaid. So that, I, I, that's the way I, I see it, like, anything that's just so, like, elaborate, elaborate and unnecessary to announce, hey, these are the genitals my baby has.

Yeah. Right? Like, cut a cake and the cake is the color. Yay. Yeah, cool. Like, I probably would ever do one of those. No. But if somebody does, I'm not going to be like, okay, this is, this is dumb.

I don't want to be a part of this. The funniest one I saw, it was, so it was like, the funniest ones is the fail ones. So there was a dude, like the brother-in-law or the cousin. or something. He was driving like the thing to the party and it was whatever it was on his passenger seat and he was fucking with it and it went off in his car and he was fucking covered in like

the paint, the powder the dust and he just couldn't, it was half that shit could be set up and it was fake anyway but god damn I laughed my ass off at it. Or when they do them and they like burn a forest down? Yeah. Or like they release balloons like latex balloons out into

the world and you're just like oh great like those are now in our planet. it somewhere they're going to cause power outages or they're going to choke birds thanks anyway i dislike gender reveals if you can't tell i i'm more towards your direction to like disliking them but i like okay fine if you want to do that that's okay yeah do you invite me i might not come okay yeah yeah i i think i've been saying a lot lately because again i'm at a new job. I'm meeting new people. My rules aren't your rules. Right. I don't want to do that. I don't want to talk politics at work. You can. I just don't want to. Right. My rules are not your rules.

And that's the way I feel about most things now that I'm at like at my ripe old age of 33, I can, I'm okay with saying it's not for me. If it's something that you like or music taste or movie, I'm like, it's just not for me. Yeah, I think the other day we were talking about my old work and I said I've worked mostly with women and one of the guys was like, ooh, what's that like? And I was just like, it's nothing. You don't flirt with coworkers. And the guy sitting next to me is dating one of the girls that works there. Right?

And they're like, yeah, but he does. And I was like, not my rule isn't his rule. He can do what he wants. I would never. Like, I'm not going to judge him for doing so. I hope they're happy. I like both of them I would never

So Alright Unpaid or underrated Last one I think that Yeah you can do a bonus one No no was that three We'll stop there

I was gonna ask you about Utilitarian Ethics To see how you felt about Different Forms of ethics I took some ethics Courses Maybe I don't know

Maybe I didn't Maybe I miscounted Just The real quick of it Of like because once it starts getting into some of the metaphysical stuff

and it gets towards like cunt and some of those other guys like uh do you say cunt some of k-a-n-t can't

oh that I said cunt I was like that's my word uh that's that's probably a little too complicated for me like I like it being simple utilitarian and feels more like the trolley problem

and like it literally is does the ends justify the means does the thing that benefits the most in practice and like to not get political to crazy political we don't do that here uh when it comes to certain decisions to be made it might have to sometimes down to more utilitarian but that's not how i'm going to choose to live my life as far as like my own personal philosophy and my own ethical quandaries on how i decide how to live my life life if I'm presented with those decisions where I have to think of something more utilitarian I'll cross that bridge when I get there but I'm probably going to do it from the point

of view of like how this directly affects my very narrow locus of control first and then go from there all right yeah we won't bar Keith because we would go like the next would be virtue ethics I think it would be unpaid uh pretty much I agree. More virtue would be more underrated. Yes. Because that's more yourself. And utilitarian, it delves into the,

it's only wrong if you get caught kind of concept of things too, right? Because does the end justify the means? Well, if I never get caught doing the bad thing, then it wasn't necessarily bad. So therefore I continue doing it. And like, it gets really things I think about too much. You passed unpaid and underrated. and go off the rails and keep going

if no one stopped us we could and I've been feeling like that a lot but the past couple of it's just like some of these guys deserve a part too because I think that there's a lot more we could have fun with but again we both have 5 a.m. wakeups so do I get two checks on my

achievement list if I get on here twice because I've been racking up the I've been racking up the pictures with supporting members. I'm going to keep wrecking those up. No, no, you don't get more than one. No, no. I'm not trying to gain the system.

Okay, you've passed on-bated underrated. It wouldn't be very virtuous of me to do that. Would not be very virtuous, no. Would be utilitarian. It would, actually. And I'm just using context of my understanding of that word by the last couple of minutes of, okay, it just means. Yeah, we're going to flip it now.

Do you have anything for us, my friend? um so one thing i was doing uh the one of the biggest things i got from this last year of uh massonomics was things being on your bingo card uh so i don't know if you guys saw while i was sitting here uh i was checking things off i made a you and you bingo cards to check off as you guys we need that because there is a massnomics bingo website oh is it okay yes uh yeah i have have to send it to you guys um i didn't win anywhere i got close uh but so that's that's just a quick aside i think we almost i think we almost need to hear it's only i take a couple minutes to read every column like or what is it how many how many how many checks are on there or how many

uh the ones i got checked off were my wife impression we said my wife i think i said it one time in the the borat voice uh one that i kind of put there myself was when Keith asks a question and while he's given the question he answers it like three different times was like, is it like this? Is it like this? Is it like that? You give three answers before people get a chance to answer? That's so mean. Dick Joke was one of them. I kind of made blowing guys away. I was talking about dingo and chafe. saw that, Ellen. If not, that's okay, was my

my instant check-off one. And that's actually to go opposite of the last one of being mean. This one is a nice one that, like, you guys care enough to, like, not to approach something people don't want to talk about. So if not, that's okay. I like that one being a given.

You saying good stuff, good stuff. That's another key one. I do say that. something being blank adjacent is on here Keith Yon was on here I think you might have got one other yeah you did

on top of that is shit on Joey for a minute fuck off I do have a handful of Joey's on here yeah I think they're next let's hear them all I don't have to be one let's just go on some of the ones

that I have for Joey yeah this is great one last one and I'll mention where this one came from Keith using fuck twice in a sentence was one so the person I had like six and I had no idea what to put on here for and I was like who could help me

I had just listened to the the 200th episode the two year anniversary one and you guys had mostly squat videos Matt trying to roast people and he didn't roast like anybody but you guys were like well you just roasted me more than Matt ever did so goddamn like I'm my heart's still broken the last six I was like

help me out with these so since you guys couldn't get you guys kept screwing him over and not getting him on the podcast for the first like 20 episodes I had him help me with last ones this is really good

so the ones that he helped with Joey was Joey plugs Canadian company Joey mentions Yeager I don't think he did that tonight no didn't do that tonight that's I didn't get to check up you've been saying Lugel lately and I guess that's from Hot Tub Time Machine

so Joey Lugel something I don't think we lugled anything Joy being dumbfounded by an American thing And then Joey goes on a blank diatribe So I have wrestling and metal on there Neither We didn't talk about you to one of those No and it was

That's really Those are the funny Which those are usually a given On these episodes But those didn't come up Hey like Roddy Piper always said Just when you think you got all the answers I changed the questions

So there's your wrestling one I love there's your wrestling one You can check that I love that you made a bingo fucking card that is great then uh so to go to my actual like what i have for you guys uh one for both of you is uh let's say tomorrow or for whatever reason they just the other podcasts for just for fun wants you guys to host for them and they host for you guys who do you think could do a better episode from each other or and then like i listen to sports radio sometimes

and sometimes like some people will go on for dan patrick and they'll just just do their own show, they won't do the Dan Patrick show. Would you guys, when you guys go over there and do a Masonomics episode, would you guys change anything? When you guys do the same show, you think they would do the same? And who do you think would do better? Between you guys and them?

I think in general, I think we could do better at their episode than they could do better at us, because they don't interview people much anymore. And when they do, they have to, I don't know, like, like, we have a very regiment, I really think we could do theirs, because we could just get on there and shoot the shit for an hour, and that'd be the episode.

whereas this one it has to be like we go very in depth on the guests not that they don't do that but like I mean we're it's more personal because you guys know crew yeah I'm gonna disagree with Keith I think no we okay one more caveat we this our episodes are as in depth as they are

because we put all the work into the questionnaire and research and shit whereas they wouldn't they don't do that like Tanner might just like look at someone's like Instagram for 10 minutes and then like do an episode. Ours is a lot of work. So if you didn't have that groundwork that we put in and that Nate had built with the server,

the questionnaire and everything, like it's not fucking easy to just shoot the shit with someone when all you can go off of is like the same lifting fucking post that they've had and you don't really know them at all. So like interviewing someone that you don't know anything about and happen to just go off of like a, we're not going off a script,

but we're kind of like, you know, we're going off our notes. But I don't know. I think ours would be harder for them coming out of the blue, never doing it specifically like the we do And I'm going to say the opposite I think if you put Tanner in our chair He's listened to enough episodes

And he knows enough of the crew And let's say we supplied him with the show notes To be nice I think he could pull it off Could we talk for an hour and a half On small town Changes To the directions

of roads enough to keep people engaged. No. Like 700 of us at least. Yeah. We're all in on like, well, I want to think that we can. Government on there. I do think if we were to have our own episode where like the guest doesn't show up

and you and I just have to like come up with a topic and shoot on a topic we could. So I have a side note. I'll go on. Could we do it as good as those to do? No. Without offending. Like keeping it neutral. Like I imagine.

we did the, you know, rating of a fitness companies. The amount of people you would piss off. Whereas, like, I would try and stay as neutral as possible. And you'd just be like, no, fuck those guys. They didn't come to home gym con. They don't fucking deserve our button. Like, you would, I just don't, I don't think we could do their finely tuned brand as easy as they could just come on here and go like, oh, hey, Matt.

But they would have to, like, not... Well, you're mad, huh? What's it like? But, like, hello to your mother for me. Like, it would be... We don't, we try, we talk about ourselves, like, less than 20% of the episode, ideally. Like, between the two of us, we collectively consume 20% of the episode about Joey and Keith. That's kind of, like, the limit we should do.

Whereas their episodes are 90% them, then their personal lives typically, or at least, like, 70. So, like, I don't know. It would be different. I do what I, would I... So, I've been thinking about this. a lot lately is like it's going to get harder and harder to keep doing you and you the way it is just because granted the crew is growing but like crew that are know anything about us and you know match the exception i feel of like you know out of like the 200 crew that have joined in

the last year or whatever like 10 of them fucking listen to us so the numbers aren't on our side that this is going to go on forever so i think occasionally we probably this is like behind the scenes if you're listening cool you get to hear it's something that i've thought about And I'll just hear you talk to Joey about it for the first time. Basically, um, and a filler, not filler episodes,

but a way to like prolong the podcast itself because say we only have a hundred more guests that we can get on. And I want to make that last for three years. Yeah. Once a month, once a quarter, once every three months, whatever. We do an episode where we essentially just do an elongated general topics and get a past

guest on and don't do an interview and we just literally do general topics. Maybe talk about the guest briefly, but not an interview. Like it's not like, let's tell us your life story because we did that two years. ago when we interviewed on episode seven but just it doesn't even have to be a title topic because I don't want to steal the title topic for them but like we could talk general topics for a fucking hour if we didn't like curb ourselves and that could be an episode and it's it's not

going to be a three hour episode but like I think most people would probably prefer we have some shorter episodes every now and then so I think that's something we can consider in the future especially if we're just like oh we can't get a guest this week and then like or we we we can't get a new guest but I got fucking 150 people on my phone book that I could call and be like hey do want to be in the podcast, you know, especially when it's like, let's just going to be an hour and we're just going to talk general topics and it's like no preparation. So I think that's something we could do in the future, completely side tantrant from what you asked us, but no, I don't disagree. And if you go to, um, nashnomics.com slash support, we're in there now.

Mm-hmm. That's pretty cool. It does, it does link and like, you know, join crew and you get access to the pre-show. You get a one-time discount code. It even says now, it took me a while to get the nerve adjunct to be unpaid and underrated. and maybe every once in a while Tanner throws it out on the podcast. Right? Because I know he says the guest on unpaid and underrated this week was, like when you're saying like,

you know, maybe I'm not asking him to do it all the time, but I'm just in once in a while. That would be nice. You know, join supporting crew. You get this perk, this perk, this perk, and you get to be an unpaid and underrated where they might interview you

to tell the rest of the crew all about you. Because I know there's people that listen. and I like perfect example is the first time I met Mitch when I brought him up earlier today I'll talk about it now where he was like oh hey it's massnomics hat and we just started talking and then I was like well do you know about unpaid and underrated and he's like well yeah like they talk about it and I was like well I'm a host and then he started listening immediately right but he just didn't know what it was because I think you know when we launched Tanner really went in depth but if people are just getting into massonomics now and then joining crew but aren't doing the backlog yeah they don't know who but who we are so. And even though we have our own Discord thing, like, it's still, there's like 19 channels and we're like buried under one of them. So you have to like click on stuff to open it up. That doesn't bother

me. I think, no, no, no. I'm not saying it's a negative. I'm saying, I'm not saying that they did us dirty or anything. I'm saying there's just that much in discord that like we're such a small piece of it, but I want to keep this going indefinitely. And any help fellow crew and, you know, Tommy and Tanner can give us. I love.

But, yeah. A couple points. The, uh, Having the home gym tour is another marketing opportunity. Yeah, I really hope you guys talked about who on that gym tour. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. And I hope they include it in theirs because it would be amazing for that to be in there.

Yeah, Tanner pointed out the banner. And then I think I kind of like, that's one thing. I hope I don't look. I feel like I cut Tanner off a couple times throughout the episode just because it's like I'm so excited to talk about my shit. So before he even like gets done asking the question, I'm already like halfway explaining it. but I definitely, I do think I know I talked about unpaid and underrated. I didn't necessarily, I didn't plug it at the end, but it didn't really give me a chance to plug anything in the end.

I had to sneak in the no wine seller on Instagram and then it was kind of over. But now it should, there should be a 30 to 60 second thing on us. On the other side of it, too, if you guys did re, reuse more people back again, that would be people will definitely get into that. I would be interested to see the difference. You only get one goddamn checkmark, Matt. Calm down. The other side, like, if you guys just did just the two of you episodes and just general topics episodes and just like, I don't know, anybody else that, like, if you guys brought Stanson.

Yep, that's the concept. And it's also, it doesn't even have to be Joey and I. Like, if one of us needs to not be there and it's easier to not do a full-blown interview, then do a general topics with an old friend. And you're not, you don't really feel like you're missing getting to know a new person. it had what you guys do has that same flavor of just the random off the wall bullshitting about things that everybody else that we're all interested in is just as much as the discord as anything else that this would this has that same kind of legs that their show does on on that same note um to get onto my next ones that I

brought up um Joey said that he's not looking for another tattoo anytime soon but would you ever consider a you and you tattoo and if you're going to be at the next lift hard, when should I book our appointment so we can get matching you and you tattoos? That'd be wild. No. I might just get one. I probably wouldn't. Yeah, go ahead and get one.

I don't see myself getting one. I am tattooed out. They're expensive. They're, they upkeep sucks. Right? That first two weeks. If it's on me, what about then? still a hard maybe

okay okay we got toys maybe that's something yeah but I'll make you a deal only if Megan the quarter horse tattoos us okay I don't know that is that in is that in Averty or

I don't think she can anymore that's the joke dude okay I was like I was like sometimes you don't pay attention to shit and I was like wait he knows she no that's that's the joke I guess yeah if she does our tattoos

I will get one with you. Well, that's the, she would literally just, she'd say, yeah, yeah, I can still do it. And then she'd just, like, draw a blind dick on you. Yeah, it would be fucking hilarious. Like, we, and I would earn it. It would be.

I would be okay with that, too. It's a story. I love, Megan. She's one of my favorite. And you know, she's going to laugh at that, too. That's the only reason I would say it. I might skip one of these because I don't want to keep going on forever. Oh, you're good.

Okay. You're not ragging on me too hard. No, no. One last one for Joey. you mentioned you are a Star Trek fan Mount Rushmore of Star Trek captains I mean there's not

that many so that that's pretty easy to do well then you put like one or two off the side there's a shit on a new shows that all have their own captains too though yeah yeah uh you can go off the deep end of any other like people that were featured on episode or something

okay so Picard number one yeah four lights make it so show good? What? Is his new show any good? Like the CBS Paramount?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think it's... Oh, no. Yeah, I know it was. I've had it downloaded. I think it was only a season or two. I had it downloaded for years.

I haven't watched it. That's the one with the original Klingons, right? I got to get into that. Where they... Oh, no, no, no. That's Discovery. Discovery was incredible for the first season and a half. Yeah, I still have to finish that.

I'm on like season three and, like, I still have two seasons to finish the series. I'm like, oh, I can't get back. Then they got really in at the Tardigrade and I got bored. A brand new world is the other one, I think. Remain Clingon is like my favorite line ever. Okay, so Picard. Kirk is going to be on there. Cast it.

Janeway's going to be on there. And I never really watched anything else because most of them bore the shit out of me. Cisco. From Deep Space Nine. Ah, I couldn't remember the name. Yeah, he was good. He's number one for me. all the baseball references.

The fact that he punched Q in the face. Q. Q probably had it coming. He was a dick. Yeah. Cisco was like the anti-Poucard. So it was kind of cool. He was more utilitarian and it was fun to jump in there.

And then he basically at the end, spoiler alert, basically becomes a god. So I can picture him, but I couldn't remember his name. But I never really got into deep space. Ace 9, pretty much That's when Worth. Worth acts the most Worth in that show. Really?

Okay. He's badass in that one. I watched, I watched maybe the first or two seasons. Because I know Dax and I know I know Q and I know cork. Right?

Because that's where they pretty much introduced the Ferengi in that form. The frangy at some other time, we're just weird. Just like an off character. Yeah. So, yeah, I would say those. Picard's Picard over Kirk

For sure I know that's gonna be Picard is the best Yeah that that's gonna Well not everybody agrees Because everybody Kind of loves Kirk's Rough and tumble

Careless ways right Playing it Calvoid diplomacy Yeah exactly But then also You do have to recognize Every episode of the next generation Was not breaking

I just drew a blank on the phrase like convention or like no we don't break the the federation rules oh yeah yeah yeah yeah and then they break every federation rule like that was that was literally every episode of the next generation

that's ironic get it was a callback call back to last more set yes facts uh okay then for Keith we'll start with a short one and then we can go to a longer one that we can finish on

um I can add another check on the dick, Joe. There we go, yep. I don't think it counts if you make the joke. Yeah, because it's like, you're like a self-fulfilling prompathy when you're doing your own checks. If you could go to, it's probably been, I don't know if it's been asked before, anything that's at the Masonomics Gym. If you can take one piece and add it to the no wine cellar, what piece. The broken sandbag that you broke.

I asked for, I has to send me that. I think he just threw it away. I made the joke that I was going to mount it on the wall. The ghost combo would be pretty sweet. I would think they got a decent yoke. I've already got all their have for Strongman stuff that I don't have. The vintage plate wall maybe?

I'm, I kind of, I have, I mean, I've got a nicer place than he does. I mean, Tanner doesn't have a Mark 45, and I do. I have an answer to this question as well. But yeah, I think I'd have to go ghost combo, like, without, without literally using my brain to go through because I could do a gym tour in my head and see every single piece in the gym but yeah off the top of my head

ghost ghost gem rack because I would replace that would be multi-faceted purposes in my gym there's two things I would take and it's the crew map where everybody puts their pins in or the stile

the stencil for the massonomics logo because when we were there Steve was like can I borrow that Tanner was like no Jake did borrow it because he needed it when he made the drink spotter or something he had it he like

used it as a stencil to spray paint his deadlift platform with the logo that's what we wanted it for yeah the like neon sign or whatever from the old podcast that would be a cool thing to have yeah

the last one because you are very much movie guy, too. If you had to cast... A glazed a thing or two? Yeah. If you had to cast and plot the Masonomics movie... Oh, God. How would you go about that? Who would you go

to play who? And what would it be about? Dude. I don't know about that. I have the opening scene in my head. We start with Scantz as a baby. And we can follow Scence along most of his history. And somehow he's

related to all of crew. And somehow he met all of our moms and we're all Scantza's sons Scant is Matt Damon by the way Gantz is Matt Damon to start yeah yeah has to be I don't know but that's a that's such an off the wall thing like maybe

I knew it would have to be like it'd have to be them at like getting ready to do episode seven five five what 500 and it's like it's like the famous rockers behind the you know it's like the opening scene is like them like in the green room getting ready to do episode 500 and then

it's just like flashback the whole movie's like set in two time zones it's like current episode episode like about to do the the live recording of episode 500 in the undisclosed place and still haven't got any information on that you fuckers um and let that be the surprise of the the movie the third act yeah the actually yeah that yeah the the the climax of it is like finally disclosing that but then like the whole movie is just like origin stories and like multiple time scenes or much of a time and it it probably would it look exactly like Dewey Cox. Yeah.

I get the feeling that's where it would... All those kind of references. The feeling of the movie, yeah. It would be Dewee Cox where it's just stupid comedy. But like, yeah, we are. I did think, um, I don't know if Stephanie really understood, like, how long they've been doing this. So I pulled up, like, it wasn't their first episode because their first, like, their first

YouTube episode was an interview in someone's gym. So I didn't really want to, like, use that one. So I went to their second YouTube episode, which was like, episode 32 when it was through the three of them in Tyler's basement and like just making her watch that for like five minutes of like just how young everyone is yeah um but then like seeing because I mean it was like nine years ago basically but like still seeing like you could still see Tanner and Tommy inside of Tanner and Tommy but it was like essentially completely different human beings um it was just very very uh unique so I mean I think I probably got more the guy

that plays Reacher would be Tanner yeah yeah like Tanner now now though I think I think they should have him play both of them but he's wearing a wig and beard he plays every one of them because he's just like the biggest guy on TV right now

or like the rock plays because he rock isn't everything rock plays and the only the only person that like gets to use like the real part like Larry actually gets to be in the movie because he's just like he's just the old dude

not talking in the background lifting but like he's like it's literal he's just like the background actor and all of it but yeah i don't know i i got i just i don't know about actors specifically but i do like the idea of it's just like it's leading up to episode 500 and then it's just flashback scenes and it's just like telling the life story of massonomics gym and the massonomics podcast i think that's the right answer involved in how it's because it literally it almost have to be like a four-part movie it actually i don't even know if you could do it in a single movie because they've literally had if you gave

each era of the podcast and of the gym and of the Instagram page and what they've done and like essentially they're like eras because like they only do the same shit for a couple years and they kind of transition into something else so it would be a tetrology yeah I would actually say

instead of them recording episode 500 it would be them walking out to the Lift Hard Livesee 4 maybe but I mean all they really do for that is the little things you know so I don't know but I mean it's a movie dude you play it up like they're just like They're in the back room with a Ramcota and they're just like...

A joke. Yeah, they don't do anything. Like shit's going wrong or stuff like that. Someone's going to deliver the horse salt mats. At least we kind of, we already, we already know what's going on for the Fed Libby's 4. I don't know what's going on for episode 500. That's like a, you know, we are privy to a lot of stuff being in group chats with TAN and being his friends, but I don't know, fuck it all about. It's so hard.

And I was, I was fishing for a lot of, um, they gave me a little bit of more deep, like I've gotten some hints about. the gift but they definitely played it close to their chest of I think it's it's come I don't think it's going to be out by next week so I don't want to say the couple things that I've heard but like I don't know a lot of people's guesses that I've heard I don't think anyone hit the nail on the head basically like and and I won't even get it because Canada post is down which actually is the last thing I want to talk about before we get into the affiliates in and sign off for the night um everybody that's been yeah everybody no stickers everybody that's been messaging me about sticker exchange or anything like that

my mail service is down so I cannot send mail I cannot receive mail I won't get the crew gift hopefully they don't lose it because what's happening is when it's going to hit Canada it's going to go in a bin and if they ever come back then it'll get sorted and we hope it gets sorted properly so I am down for sticker exchanges and by down I don't mean like down for I mean I'm done I can't do them. He's, he's, he's not DTS down to sticker. He's, you know, down to Paul's. Yeah, so I did have somebody message me.

I was like, yeah, here's my address. And then a second later was like, wait, don't send me anything, and I can't send you anything. So, yeah, actually, my silly goose shirt is stuck. Yeah. Yeah, my silly goose shirt is going to be stuck in Chicago. It's not even going to cross the border until the strike ends. Oh, that's right. You about the peach one.

Yeah. So, where do we find you at? Hit him. Oh, yeah, Matt. You can find me at FitMat, Fat Matt on Instagram, Dirt McGirt on Discord, Stoic Poetic on Substack. And if I ever post anything, you can find me at Willow Boops for my cats. No, I was just going to ask you to follow up with the cat one. Joey, where are you at?

I am at Joey. Atchevaria, E-C-H-E-V-R-I-A. I'm really big into rogue. I'll be an affiliate soon. Nice. He did that last week and it was really fun. Also, Joey, if you're listening this long, big shout out to your King George

the third knuckle reference. I will tell you, when you said that, it did not land with Keith or the guest. Still don't. I don't know what you're talking about. I laughed out loud and yelled, you fucking nerd in my car. I'm so proud of you for that.

Anyway, Joey underscore Malesco, M-L-E-C-Z-K-O. That's about the only place you can find me is the Instagrams. Will you explain his reference in 60 seconds or less? So you guys are bringing up the rule of the knuckle and how deep is a knuckle in... Oh, vaguely, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then he said, no, it's a King George, the third's knuckle. Which I believe from my, of course, is Ikeyes knowledge, third time we've said that

sentence is actually where the knuckle thing comes up from. Oh, okay. right it's just like the champagne was muddled after some queen's breasts it's just this thing that's like in the world that could be true but nobody's ever going to check but i knew the reference and i i literally i was like you fucking nerd that's the funniest thing and that is the worst you know it's a good joke but it doesn't lay in it you guys didn't even react i i like those for myself i'll purposely make a joke that's only funny to me and it's funnier because i know that it i find it funny and that's enough for me yeah well joey did that and i'm very proud of him

for that because it was a very very funny thing i jerry's a good dude i love that kid um all right so our instagram unpaid and underrated podcast we got the website unpaid internpodcast.com uh go race everyone for first uh comment on youtube i am keithundicat 73 on instagram more importantly go follow my orange gym though no wine do we get matt yes he started it because you shit on me. You asked him first, you stole my line. And, uh, tune in next week to hear Joey stole my line again. And we'll see you next Tuesday. All right. Well, that's cool. I appreciate you kind of being able to assimilate so easily into crew. And this was a fun episode with with a newer guest. Like, it's, like, I can only get on who wants to be on. And I'm not going to beg people. I'm

not going to go suck their dick to get them in my podcast. So it's like, if you don't respond when I say, I don't, no, well, you don't have to deal with it. Like I do. Like, it's, it's, it's like there's there's for sure like o g crew that should have been on by now and they just have made no effort and i like have have like not made efforts when i have asked them and stuff so it's like i understand that but like it's just a vulgar way like you could have been like hold doors or bag or hold hands you could have said anything but suck their dick i'm still not going to suck their dick but or i'm not going to hold their door for so how many dicks have you suck to get them on that like i don't know that's matt's here for a reason i guess

Yeah. I didn't know that was option. That definitely led, like, I'm not going to suck their dick to get them on, but there's dicks I have sucked to get them on. And now I have questions. We made it 225. I'm not doing it again. No, but I do like the concept of eventually. Sucking dick.

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