Unpaid And Underrated - 128 : Horse Stall Matt Spiders (ft. Big Hunter)

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Hunter. They dive right into right into some great topics like where the Ramkotta is, caffine, country music, bugs, and cast iron pans. Links Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @holbrook_1115 (https://www.instagram.com/holbrook_1115/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Hunter.

And welcome back to episode 678 of the unpaid and underrated podcast, a podcast by crew for crew. I'm one of your host, Big Keith, joined as always here by Big Joey. Hello there. And this week we got a special guest crew, Big Hunter. How are you doing, Hunter? Doing great. How are you guys? Good. Welcome. Welcome to the podcast. I just got a Discord chirps.

I've got to kill that app, so I don't hear that anymore. Boopo Boop. And, yeah, Big Hunter, are you drinking anything fancy tonight? Oh, yeah. We're taking it with my drink, spotter, chill here. It's a good one. I'm going to spill this. He's got a refrigerator, cigerator.

Oh, yeah. Is it a zero? Yeah. Oh, yeah. There you got a little Coke zero action. I'm still chipping away at these liquid deaths by Toby that I'm not impressed with. What flavor did you have? That's a root beer.

It is starting to grow on me, but it's just, it's not great, but I don't know, man. It's just, it's trying too hard to be a soda when, at least if you're drinking like one of the other just random fruit flavors, it's like, all right, that kind of tastes like the color might seem like in my head, so sure, but this is just like, it just tastes like syrup. Yeah, I know you've been drinking one of the new ones there, uh, disgusting from what I've tried. Yeah, I think, I think I'm retired from them. sure.

I like the other flavors, but the new cola ones are disgusting. Yeah. What about you, Jerry? Anything fancy? Probably not, huh? You just got home. Water. There you go.

Water's good for you. That is water's good for you. Hunter, what's you wearing, buddy? I see a little green action. Got the, uh, I went not allowed to color green, though. It's which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, is, is that named.

I prefer Hunter green, but. Yeah, you would, wouldn't you. You would have. Something else. Sage, maybe. There you go. Sage Bush. And because he was.

cut off. That is the property of Masonomics. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody else can see this. I'm just showing you guys my shirt for another reason. Yeah. And he's like, what are you wearing? It's green. Like, let the dude answer.

There's not that many green shirts. Bingo checked. I forgot to print off my bingo card. Oh, God damn. Yeah. You know, do it while you're listening. I got the home gym nerd shirt on. I'm nervous about wearing it to work, but I'm going to. I'm going to. Nervous because you're going to rip it?

so far that hasn't happened i just get covered in dust and primer and stuff like that yeah it's always a risky play with your i i really wouldn't wear 40 dollar t-shirts to work like i really wouldn't i would get you those uh true true classic as i've been some of my go-to work shirts as of late just definitely yeah i gotta go i've got to go out shopping for yeah just get just super basic cheap stuff and almost just make it like a uniformed where it's just like we're the same like five shirts all week but there's the same there different shirts, but they're the same model. Yeah, it's on my list of tings to accomplish.

I've got the Crimson and Cream Massonomics Jim shirt. The one negative, I guess, I swear these, like, I like the OG ones because they just grab them out of the hamper, no matter how wrinkly they are, you can't really tell. Most of them are probably mostly because they're black, too. You can't really see how wrinkly a black shirt is. But this cream one, man, like, I'm almost self-conscious of how wrinkly it is, but it's like not enough to like rewash it and dry it or get it out of the dry. in a timely manner or folded or

hang it up in a timely manner so yeah and since this is an audio only podcast well more for like going I'm talking about like when I was to go if I was to go to the house in this shirt I'd be like yeah I should probably clean that up oh yeah I'd be embarrassed then too yeah but I don't really do a whole lot of leaving the house

unless I'm in we're close let's see I'm still trying to figure out who made that fucking AI video of me don't even saw that on Discord where they did me lifting a sandbag or something shit and talking about breaking it I was a good It was a lot of

Like it was a whole like five second audio Voiceover and if that's an AI voice Or if that was someone doing a voice over I couldn't put my finger in the voice just yet But I'm sure that'll come out in the water For once I don't know Yeah If it can or just had a crew submitted

Or massonomic supporter submitted or something to that extent Or if Tanner made it to mess with it Yeah it could be It could be It's always It's always the butt of somebody's joke it seems like Um I guess I'm

some sports and books updates of speaking to be in the butt of the joke is God. So Massonomics fantasy football, I am very, very not good at it this year. Whereas last year I was kind of middle of the road and finished strong. So yeah, definitely going to be relegated to the lower tier this year. And, uh, yeah. There goes your Hall of Fame check mark. Yeah. That does suck.

That was the, yeah, I was as close as it ever would have been last year. I still have one more, you know, I am like one in five or one in six, I think. And Dodds is 0 and 6. my only goal I guess is be to not like the bottom four of us go down anyway so I know I'm already confident that I'm going to get regularly relegated to the bottom league but

as long as I at least get one more win than Dodds or whoever else is going to finish at the bottom I guess that's a win and then a book update aspect to that is Red Rising the you know everyone's chatting about that the last few months in Discord and on Instagram and whatnot it finally pulled the trigger and started that book series

very intense very gut-wrench like first couple chapters there's a very not not uh a a curveball of what happened right off the bat kind of like spark the was the catalyst of the whole series um and you know it hooked me uh i nice binge read the shit well binge binge listened to for some some of you pure readers will judge that but there's a lot of audio audio and if it's not one point oh it doesn't count i was actually literally just talking to jake about that like two seconds seconds ago, because he's telling me he listens to him

on, like, two and a half. And I'm like, two and a half. No, that's insane. Yeah. And then so, like, I played it on two and a half. Literally is that. And he was like, well, I do slow it down to like, you know, 1.5 when I started or, you know, if there's like an intense scene or something. I'm like, all right, because I could listen at 1.5, maybe even

one 7, 5, but but he gave me like a whole spiel of how he's been like training to just consume him faster. I'm like, I like, I like to still like, I don't know. As they go, At what point are you consuming so much that you're losing a little bit of the enjoyment? Anyway, I think it's a six-book series, so I'm very excited to continue down that road. And then Big Hunter, did you get your crew gift yet?

Oh, yeah. What did you think of those? I got the gym. Sorry, I'm looking for them. The cottage cheese, and I wound up with two Pueblo Gold freestyles. Oh, you're one of the four-packed. that Nate was talking about, that the elusive four-pack single household crew,

because there's a lot of crew out there. Actually, I came to light how many different crew did have their spouses signed up, that people might not even, like, you know, their spouse probably really isn't. They might have a Discord login, but they probably never get on Discord, basically. And it's just like,

I wish I hit that, yeah, five or six other guys. And some people kind of reap the benefits of that of being able to get five or six different cards where my household, We only got four separate cards, I believe. So I got a couple duplicates. I'll try to trade at Crew Falls maybe and see if I can get some turn them into something. But I am proud of Crew.

We did a really good job for the most part, letting it go about a four or five, I don't know, three, four or five days, whatever it was. And that's usually not the thing. And I don't know if me guilty people into it at first had anything to do with it. I don't know or care. But, God, I'm really glad that I wasn't. I did end up seeing it but it was like very briefly and I can't blame the person

because like I don't think they knew and I saw they did delete the story but all and all very proud of crew for letting it go at least three or four days and then Tanner was the one that was basically like all right assholes let's start seeing some Instagram post about this

we didn't send them out for nothing kind of thing and I was like all right there's still like a third of the community that hasn't got him yet but all right let's let's let the let the dogs out I guess but I don't think Joey's gonna see his for another couple

ones. Yeah, it'll be like two weeks. I actually don't even have my order from the last drop. Like that still hasn't shown up yet. Um, but I mean, it's, it's kind of like even if I know what the gift is, I don't know what's in it. Yeah, that's true. Right. So then I will say, I, um, when Tanner said, I'm mailing out the Canadian ones today. Yeah, I messaged him and I was like, can you get Mary or Jack to sign mine? So I have one of the rarest cards, but And I'm going to act like I didn't know. And I'm going to be like, why is mine broken? Like, I would have, I would have totally played into it.

But it turns out it was like an hour late from him dropping it off at the post office. Because it's like. Yeah, he'd have to print off a new, I mean, not that that big way. But he never put up a whole new envelope too, probably. Well, I guess he could have cut it and then taped it. Yeah, yeah. Like, there would have been a fun way to do it. But it just would have been really funny if I just had one that was signed by somebody that's not even Massonomics.

Yeah. And I'm just like, mine's, who is the, like, it would just would have been really funny to me for no reason other than. get Larry to sign a couple of them and just set them out. Right? Like, just for no like, I don't know. He'd be like, what is this shit? Almost accidentally announced the mailer or guessed

the mailer before they were ever sent out. It was probably about a month ago. I'd sent me Discord because I found some like Brian Shaw cards on eBay. All my friends are getting into cards right now. So I ordered those and I sent to Discord like, does anybody into these? Like, I

strong man or powerlifting cards and tanner sent the one of him and said oh you mean these old things i almost typed out like did i just accidentally guess the mailer there were a couple other my like a couple other people i've been like group chat with had the same thought that it would be like the uh the actual the cards they used to do just like you know read just print a bunch of those off but like as a good of an idea that it is like so many of those i wouldn't say aren't relevant but like that's a lot of work for something that's not really crew related or which one do you want which one do you want yeah do you want do you want the stoleman one maybe Shane hunt which which one do you want yeah so like like yeah also there is this really

fun thing with crew is they're always so close to the point but not touching it and that has been a very common thing happening uh where it's It's always, like, right there, but not all the way there. And that's a recurring theme I am noticing is that we sometimes guess things, and then they are close to what's happening. Never say never. Never say never. Although, if you just continue to say that, oh, go ahead.

I was pumped whenever I opened the envelope that day and saw those. Yeah, I don't know what I've got there. I do got to figure out, like, a better display or not. I mean, I want to display them somehow, but like, I don't know, To figure that one out. I think for now, I'll probably just put them in one of the magnetic sleeve things and just make them all Christmas ornament. I've got a pretty cool setup in the gym here.

I'll have to send you guys a picture of later. Well, yeah, hopefully when we get our guest in the horn, we'll hear all about his CTF and the pictures that he has of his gym, hopefully, ideally. That's a trend we're trying to instill in our guests and a future guests. We were supposed to see pictures of those?

No, no, no, like on the map itself. I'm just kidding. Ah, I see. He's already got it. Got him. See, sometimes I don't know, because I've been asked questions like that by guests who tell me they listen and they're, and I'm like, oh, that's funny. And they're like, wait, well, I didn't make, oh, I don't know. It's very hard to get that first.

What's a CTF? Yeah, the first of all, I didn't know that a couple weeks ago. It took me second there. It's hard to know everything all at once. I'm like, it's, can't be. I just wanted to take a brief moment and ask you guys, um, based on last week's episode, when we rate last week's episode, when we rate last week's episode or this week's episode, I guess, at this rate, but when this comes out, it's last weeks, because we record in the future in times a flat circle.

I want to include, I want you to include your tier ranking of power lifting lifts. I want that to be a part of your rating of last week's episode. Does that make sense? Sure. Do you want to go first so we can follow suit? Yeah, so they did the Strongman tier episode where they listed Strongman events, most of which were deadlifts of some sort, and they ranked them S, A, B, C, or F. And they made the joke saying, oh, next week we'll do the powerlifting one.

And then I thought it would be really funny if we did. I didn't disagree with a lot of theirs. There was one that I was just like, no, that's the best. But I'd be damned if I was taking notes while I was driving. No, I'm looking at it right now. Yeah. Go ahead. Which one do you think was the one I disagreed with?

Oh. I'm trying to think. So F tier is the hold, the duck walk, and a squat. So none of those would be a problem. C tier was Finglefingers, sandbag, which I disagree with Sandbag being that low. You love them so much, you break them. A tire flip, circus dumbbell. The Codan's Wheel.

This fucking image is so small. Conan's wheel, that's the one where I was just like, no, I would have put. that up higher. Thank you for reminding me. That's the one I definitely would have put higher because I think if people can grasp the weight while they're watching and tie it into the Conan movie, I think that there is an opportunity that's a really fun one to watch. Plus, it does look fun to do. So I think I disagree with that one. I've seen people almost die on those though because like when you drop it like in your body still moving. Like I've seen people just get like basically clothes lined in the chest when like they drop it. It just it drop like in person.

person. And it's just like, oh, are you okay, bud? Because that, that had to hurt. Yeah. So, um, definitely going to, uh, give that one, five out of five, uh, finger's fingers. There you go. Uh, and as my ranking, um, squat is a, deadlift is S and bench is F. All right. In my incorrect opinion, but what do I mean? Yeah. And hit, yep, yep. Oh, did you see how it today? I said, in my correct opinion, your list is accurate. on Instagram Big Hunter, what do you got, buddy?

Rate last week's episode and give me your powerlifting tier. I'll give it five out of five Massonomic trading cards. There you go. I've got to put deadlift up top. It's my favorite by far. That's for deadlift.

That's the tier, as the kids you call it. I guess down from there. Gosh, I hate squat and bench. I mean, technically they got all three Bs It doesn't it to be one per To whatever you truly feel about them Both of those in A and then Stuffed off for sure

All right Anything stand out to you from the episode itself Uh Now that I can recall I've listened to a lot of backlog Since then and now So Okay, so yeah that does yep

Yep we'll get into that later for sure All right then I guess I'll jump in here So as far as the tier list I don't know, I guess, like looking at it, it's hard because, like, they were, they couldn't, they didn't narrow it down to, this is the tier list for spectators. This is the tier list for competitors. They just said, this is the tier list for kind of whatever the fuck we feel like. So it's really hard. You could pick it apart from any direction of, well, as a spectator, that's awesome. But as a competitor, that sucks and vice versa. And they didn't really give us a defined like, this is what this is for. So that was kind of a little tricky. But, because, like, I think doing sandbags is fucking fun and awesome, and it's, like, convenient as shit. And I don't know. I don't feel that they're that much less than watching stones. I think part of it is because I know how much effort it is to clean up after stones.

Like, I much prefer doing sandbags. So I have them a little partial two sandbags over stones. But I guess as a, from a layman's person, they'd be like, oh, yeah, stones look cooler because it's a rock. You can relate to it more, I guess. But, I don't know, for the most part, the list was adequate. I would give it a five out of five tier. list and then my ranking of squat bench deadlift on a s a b c f tier would probably be squat s tier for sure deadlift a tier and bench b tier maybe like if i had to you know and at one

point in my life i would probably say bench is s tier and you know but i don't know current current keith for sure i don't really care about i could probably even put bench and c or f and not really care so yeah Actually, I'm going to go bench C tier, deadlift A tier, squat, C tier. Or, sorry, S tier. Yeah, I, I'll dig with that. I will stand by that and wait for people to tell me my wrong opinion later. Somehow we will all be wrong to somebody. David's.

Yeah. Oh, what's in Keith's box? Thank you, big British David. He sent me a Massonomics orange beanie. Oh, hell yeah. He's been talking about that. It was actually funny. I went back and looked.

I think I made a comment trying to buy one like a year ago or something, and he DMed me. I was like, oh, I have one else in a he want to get a chance. And, you know, everyone knows Big David has disappeared for the last year. He is a very busy man. And it did take him nine months to get me that. So, you know, no one gets special treatment with the David's. So, but I very much appreciated that, my friend.

And I will wear it proudly. Yeah. Come in months. Just right before you do the last thing, that was actually a good remark. finder, first piece of mail to show up in my door. After the strike ended, was stickers from Big Market by you Barbell. Nice. Yeah, that was very nice where I was just like, I wonder if there's mail yet.

It's been, the thing's been over for three days. And there was only one piece in there, and it was those. That was awesome. Is it, does say, when it was originally postmarked? I don't know how to read things. I don't know either. I don't know. October 4th.

That's not horrible. I mean, maybe two years are fairly quick shutdown then. I mean, really. Oh, yeah. It was only about. All right. Well, speaking of two weeks, Brian likes to talk. Big, big, big, big, big Brian.

I felt like he talked about stuff for two weeks on his episode today. No, I'm just playing. It did, I'd enjoy it. Brian Coppulman, crew adjacent, I think. I'm not sure if he's crew or not. I don't mean. But he's the movie producer, director, writer guy that did Rounders and so much of other movies. They've talked about him before on their podcast.

So he's got a, he's in upstate New York. So several, several hours from me. Probably about us, you know, everyone says California is so big. I'm pretty sure it would take me like eight hours to get to Brian's house. So it's a pretty big state over here as well. I think it was about a 45-minute walk-through video, so I don't think Joey watched it. And I would say, because they, I think this one might be the one more than any. I guess we've only seen, what do we've seen, just Glucks and Brian so far from New York?

or from the New England trip but like because they had mentioned coming back from this trip that how like more than ever this round of reviews are essentially walking podcast because it's just the dudes just shooting the shit and nothing was more accurate than that with Brian's because he would just kind of they'd ask him like one thing

and he would just you know and I'm not saying this is a insult to him but it was it was whatsoever just they just let him kind of run with like a you know a little five minutes secway into a personal story somewhat related to fitness and health and stuff. And I thought that was pretty cool. So definitely didn't get a lot of that in the other, as I think it might be the first one that really kind of dove into that. And it was, I think that might have been the one Tanner was thinking about in his head when he had, you know, coined a walking podcast, uh, because that's what I thought of the whole time. And, you know, he had, he had a lot of really cool sore neck stuff,

but it was more his story and getting into, getting into lifting as like a 55 year old dude that couldn't even deadlift 65 pounds and having like you know how he gets people that are his like you know an older generation asking him like lifting advice and stuff now and how he kind of thrives on that and just uh you can see that dude's got a lot of layers um pretty connected it seems like so more to come uh you know if anything comes from that so but yeah i enjoyed the video so go give that a listen and a while well yeah go go go give that youtube video a listen because that's everyone knows how i watch youtube videos What color was his equipment?

Black. It was actually. Do you didn't get a chance to watch that today? Did you, Hunter? Yeah, I had it play while I was working out. Oh, okay. What did you think? So I mainly listened as well.

Yeah. Brian, but it almost, it could have, I personally feel like, if you, if you watched it blindly, it could have just been like the 45-minute interview portion of a two-hour-long mathematics podcast. That's kind of what it was. but not knocking it like they were still very consumable and very watchable it was just you could tell like

they know how to interview people so it was really cool anything else you guys saw from Gen Pop this week we need to talk about where we hit them with some affiliates and sponsor reads no I'm just when I say I'm really excited for all the new podcasts coming from crew and former crew

I know that things are are going to be amazing I'm going to listen to all of those what's funny is the two people involved probably don't even listen to this podcast oh well there was also like i know what you're talking about the gabe and fucking what's his there was big damn with the arm tattoos came on and was trying to start a new podcast too so i was just like so no that one sounds dope and i might jump in on that yeah yeah yeah no i'm talking about the the gay one because yeah yeah i got you just imagine a guy you haven't

talked to in a year being like you'll start a podcast you do all work i'll be in And that was the funny part. It was like, it was like, yeah. And then Gabe's, and then like someone posted the Gabe like video again. Because there's people we're literally almost, are we at,

are we at 800 crew yet? I think we are. But regardless, like there's, there's literally new people every day that don't know what the fuck we're talking about. So knowing that like a new person gets to watch that Gabe video every time it's posted makes me kind of smile.

Because they're just like, what the fuck is this? And it's like, I think that was like two years ago. It's still got legs. It just, it makes me chuckle. time.

Mesonomics is a bunch of Cairns. Anyway, hit us up at Obscidia. I'm still getting stuff from them. So, hit them up with

code unpaid. Plate snacks, code unpaid. Still probably one of the most popular between that one and Obsidian pneumonia. I love that you guys

are using those. I love that if somebody asks even the slightest, where do I get this made, where do I get this printed? It's not even me or Keith. It's you guys being like, plate snacks,

code unpaid, go. And then when someone says something else, they usually get roasted and drugs. They're like, oh, you can get them cheaper from Joe Schmo fucking stickers. And then, like, someone else will come in and be like, yeah, don't do that. We don't do that here.

Yeah, we don't do that here. It's never me and you either. That's really funny. And, of course, my friend Chris at Beltfed Strength, he's also got a select one for crew, which is code unpaid. Indeed, Hunter, do you have anything you want to tell us about Masonomics? Oh, yeah, pull out my notes here. Oh, yep, Hunter did.

get the script so we're about ready to you know we're staying on track you get the all right i'm going to try to read this without messing up it's a little longer than i thought now that i'm in front of you guys it is what she said are you tired of wearing shorts that aren't live shorts that you drink your lecroy like a coward in private instead of screaming it into the great plains win then you need massonomics the only brand that makes you stronger just by hearing it with your ears i'm talking enough inside jokes to confuse your whole gym do you like getting strong staying strong and using your strength and get in here we're lifting hard living easy and buying stuff we don't need from south dakota's finest massonomics it's not just a brand it's a col you can flex in visit massanomics dot com or don't what do i know but be quick and get in before the line in the sand well done well done in the red long too only three spots left indeed yeah i love when that gets people uh you notice the backlog reference there hearing it

with your ears. Yeah. The crack you're the first time I heard it. But then you hear it another 150 times. Skip button. It would be funny if they like just like every now and then just sprinkled in like an old school intro just for shits and giggles. I'm sure they don't even have those audio files anymore.

But I think that would just be funny to like play the old Tyler intro or whatever. I was really confused with the deep sexy voice I heard the first. episode of Masonomics It would be really funny Just out of nowhere Just to see who's even listening Right

They just did that Like you just heard The Masonomics podcast With your ears I just We all be like No It's like just

A backlog trauma I mean well I guess I don't know For those of us Like I was able to naturally Kind of just at my discretion Go through the backlog Before there was ever any like

mode of motivation from the Hall of Fame or whatever but like I could see people that are kind of like when you're obligated to do it it's kind of like if you do something because you want to do it it's like for you but if you're asked to do something you're like well go fuck yourself I don't want to do this so I can kind of

I can kind of see people having that feeling just a little bit maybe like so but yeah what do you think we got to kick kick Big Andrew's Garrison's ass out of here so we can get this podcast going right? Yeah all right see if our guest is here Big Hunter is that you

you buddy it is hey welcome welcome to the podcast my friend uh well we always hit people off with the hard one first so you know we'll make you think about this one for a minute what brought your massonomics why are you here why just stay how'd you get here all that have you heard about this have you seen this that's another example of me asking a question and answering it three times i believe i do that every yeah that's uh my friends big wesley and big um which which big so wesley honey got right and then which is what's that We have a lot of, I think we can't, we're to the point now we can't just use. We have to either drop a last name or an Instagram handle because there's just too many people of the same names.

Big Wesley, Honeycutt and Big Zach, Fleming. Good deal. We all kind of became supporting members and CFTs around the same time. C-T-Fs. Yeah. We have a little C-E-T here, so it's hard for us sometimes with acronyms, guys. Just think of C.T. Fletcher. It's still your motherfucking set.

And he does say fuck more than anybody more except me. So, yes. Yeah. Yeah, that would be. And his last name is also Fletcher. So it would see. So his initials are CTF. Thanks.

Yep. Yeah. I'm glad I could walk you down that joke. Yeah. You started and I landed it for you, buddy. Damn it. I got there. All right.

Sorry. Sorry there, Hunter. Get a CTF. Oh, yeah. I'll say it. Sorry. uh they were uh kind of fans before i was like of the youtube and uh i remember when the crispy boys came out you know we all started kind of following massonomics but uh we were never this

immersed until we decided it was a good idea to all create home gyms oh yeah and i've just spiraled down the rabbit hole from there and so have they so those two guys got me in pretty much. Like ballpark like we're talking like this last month was this four years ago was this six months ago like give us it was anytime a vague time frame or like when you started listening to the podcast regularly like your first couple guests you remember or well I guess we can't really ask that anymore because anyone that's listened anyone that's came on in the last probably two years doesn't know that they fucking ever did guest interviews it seems to you know what I mean

like that wasn't a thing they're they're not just getting those natural people that have like, oh, I followed this person here because now it's all just like the shit we enjoy. It's just the homies talking, so sorry. I've probably been this immersed for the past six months or so. As far as the YouTube and the occasional podcast, I think whenever the Krispy Boys flag came out

was whenever we kind of discovered Masonomics as a whole, going through the backlog. There was some older episodes that I had already. watched that I guess I wasn't aware of what I was watching at the time so okay that's cool kind of lurking from afar until the past six months or so probably nice so you say your your life is dramatically improved in the last six months it sounds like yeah his eyes lit up with that one so just so everyone knows who we're talking to uh name discord username you know instagram mainly just wherever you know people know who you're who's talking and where to find you

Yeah, Big Hunter Holbrook of Double H. Barbell. I believe my Discord and Instagram are probably H1-1-1-5. I can double check that, actually. It's as long as they type in double-h, I'm sure it'll pop up. Yeah, or not. No, no, it's Holbrook underscore. Look at you being off.

I need to change that. It's got a match to the gym. Yeah, well, tune in next week to see what he changes Instagram handle to. that accent i i know last time i accused someone having a southern accent i was the guy that lived in the pacific northwest so hopefully i didn't butcher this one again but you you got a little twang to you i feel where you from buddy uh eastern kentucky kentucky that sounds like it oh why didn't i see at home gymcon then fucker like that was he before i got in here i guess yeah it wasn't uh yeah yeah he must have just missed it really i mean yeah i think so i remember watching the

the massonomics video over it but uh i think yeah highly how far are you from from louisville i should know this i'm doing tomorrow uh about four hours roughly so that's that's doable you could definitely a crew meetup plan big crew meet up in the local nice nice who all's the guys you just mentioned or more people uh Wesley big Wesley honeycut is going to be up there as well but we're meeting up with big brandon doyle oh dope Oh, he's awesome. His place. Oh, you're nice.

That's a good thing he's got a combo where he's got that he's got that combo rack. So it'll definitely come in handy since he's fucking 6'5. So it'll work out. All right. I saw him doing some Jefferson deadlifts today. So make sure you get those in. I saw him breaking a scale today too. Just see that?

He broke his scale away. He's been doing squat to over lately. So I think we're going to try to hit some squats Saturday morning. We're driving up tomorrow. But we're going to live with him Saturday morning. So we're trying to hit some squats. We're going to have to use it. I was good, dude.

Jefferson squats? I've been introduced to Zurchers lately, and that's enough pain for me right now. I wish I didn't like those as much as I do. Me too. First, I was like, these are stupid. This just hurts, and I could do more weight on my back and probably get more from it. But then the more I went, I was like, I can see where this is probably helping me.

So, I'm welcome now. Have you done Zurcher Deadlifts yet? I've not. Those, so those actually suck. I will put that out there. I do not enjoy doing those. Good idea for me. I don't think I could get down there.

No, and that is hard. So sometimes I have to do them off pins or off the rack. Yeah. But it definitely is like, oh, my max deadlifts, you know, for me, let's say, 405 right now, right? and 225 is a fucking struggle on his urch or dead and you're just like am i weak did i forget how to do this it's just no it's such a different lift um go ahead you see mofo he posted us uh they almost never post anything on instagram i feel and he did like a whole thing where he's him doing odd lifts it was him doing the jefferson's

today not brandon and that's that's fair because mofo's nowhere near as tall as brandon but he's they're similar mofo's just like a two-third side of brandon maybe not two thirds he's probably like a it's probably like a seven eighths brandon but uh no he was doing a bunch of different shit it was yeah all with all the odd lifts like yeah it was the squat the steinborn squat uh with an axle too for some reason did a whole bunch of random stuff but uh it was uh actually i think i saw that at like five in the morning i probably should reshared it but i was like just getting in the car i was like sorry i'll look at this later and never did so you're you're kind of new to the crew so i'm actually very interested in this

question. What is the piece of merch that you see other people wearing and showing off that you wish you had? It seems that I have the same answer as everyone else that I have heard give this on this podcast. Yeah, buddy shirt. Yeah. I'd say that.

Yeah, buddy. But missed out. Well, I got one of the high bar, what is the high bar squat club or something? Yeah, you showed me, he, you texted me that yesterday. in you you got it on fucking eBay for like six bucks or something yeah whenever the cards came in I was like I got to check eBay and see what all was on here for oh yeah that was on there's also a six sumo deadlift shirt on there but it was a medium so no but uh yeah I was like seven bucks for sold out my synonymous merch can't pass that up so yeah that's not

bad there was it was that posh mark or something a couple years ago someone was selling a bunch of random stuff I remember them posting about that but uh yeah how I don't even know how you might as well just give the shirt away for $7. Like, like, because obviously you have to pay shipping and stuff, but that guy, you know, he's not getting really any of the shipping costs. So like you literally, I wouldn't put anything in an envelope and mail it out for $7. Like I would, I would literally just donate it to Goodwill at that point. Well, that's the thing about Masonomics shirts.

They're not yours. It's just your turn with them. Yeah, that's true. That's fair. Yep. But I think anyone selling a shirt on eBay is like so far removed from like being in deep with mass andomics, they would just be like, all right. a random shirt. I'm going to sell it.

Yeah. It was odd to see on there. It is. There he is. So that's what's that Hall of Fame status? It's got to be in the 600s, right? What? Or, sorry, the supporting membership. Yeah, no. Supporting membership number. Yeah, that was

my question was so bad. I think his eyes went left, right, left, right, left, right. And I fell asleep. Just pretend you're asleep. Just go to sleep. That was the, you can answer either question. I don't, yeah, you'd run with it. Yeah, yeah.

So, okay, so you're in the, you're in the new, the new guys. So yeah, you're, so yeah, that's so did, well, did the line in the sand? Because they were probably talking about getting the line in the sand six months ago for the next crew gift. Did that help motivate you? Absolutely. Yeah, they got good. That was before I knew the joke, too. Oh, this one isn't a joke for the mailer, but the line and the sand joke, that's where I learned that.

the line in the sand that lasts for 17 months. But yeah, no, it works. It is a good marketing tool for sure. So then I guess you can answer the other part of that question of what's your Hall of Fame status? This makes three. Three. Okay. Yeah.

So you definitely ought to get a, I'm assuming you don't have a crew picture yet, but you should. Or is that one of the ones you do have? Yeah. Which I posted it as an Instagram story. So you don't. You got to do a full. It's got to be a main post. Not meet a two.

We'll get one with Big Brand on Saturday. hopefully it feels yeah that'll get it yeah always anytime there's a crew meet up like you got to get pictures like like like yeah and then then the pictures like that really cool you know decor for the gym FYI takes like it's literally like six 60 cents to print a picture off at CVS or wherever the fuck so take care of that the drink spotter is on there and then now I'm on this podcast uh I already uh paid for the room to go to the Arnold this year so that'll be off of it coming up on 10 orders, so working on it. Nice.

I got to figure out my accommodations. Anyone listening to this and wants to do an Airbnb maybe as long as it's not a shitty one, like Big Matt Sunlings last year's crew falls in Airbnb. If it's a real Airbnb with separate rooms, I'm down. If anyone wants to go to the Arnold. That's what we've been pretty cheap right now. I don't know if they change, get closer to the Arnold. Yeah, they probably do.

That's why I kind of want to... I figured there's a fan... There's gonna be plenty of people at Crew Falls that are gonna go to the Arnold, so I'll probably try to, like, in-person, organize something, or at least, you know, because I don't want to...

What? ...a night for hotel. What? Do you? The Arnold is in March. Oh, you said Crew Falls, not fucking Home JimCon. Oh, yeah.

I just had a Keith moment. Ah, fuck you. This number we call it. What's your Hall of Fame number? 600-something. Yeah. I know my calendar, fucker. Anyway, this is the beauty of this podcast because it's like it's about so much shit that we're already thinking about that it's like, I can't just like not just mouth diarrhea on my thought of like, oh, well, I'm going to do this.

We are not professionals. Because someone listening is going to be like, oh, I'm going to remind him to talk about that at Crew Falls and be like, well, let's get that organized. We're like, sweet. So I do see the CTF flag back there. And for all of you people out there that is certified training facility. C.T. Fletcher? Yep, C.T. Fletcher. I think you already mentioned the name,

but if you want to drop that here, just because AI would pick it up and slotted in where it's supposed to go. Yep, double H. Barbell. Hell, yeah. One of the three and the same little cluster of eastern Kentucky. Hey, that's awesome.

Oh, so you and the other dudes do live right next to each other than, like a general vicinity? It's like, so. Within 30 minutes. of each other. Yeah, that's close enough to where, like, half my lifting buddies, yeah, there's like the 45-minute radius from people that come here, give or take, from where one lives and the other lives.

So that's pretty cool. I dig it. All right. So, can I, can I do this one? Because I was the one that sent you the message. Yeah. Today, I did not have a lot of time to go over the show notes. I went over them between yesterday and today.

Part of the reason this was a late recording is it was parent teacher day. And that went until about 645. So I had to, like, zoom home. And essentially And then Zoom zoomed you Yeah, and then Zoom zoomed me And then I threw two kids at my wife And was like, going to record bye

But there's one thing I caught How did you explain unpaid and underrated To the people that you sent this to? Because I am almost a hundred percent sure They thought we were Masonomics. Well, I told them About like the Masonomics podcast That this was kind of a podcast

by supporting members kind of about the Massonomics podcast one of my friends said oh so you're joining a cult first of all shut up second of all

yeah kind of really hard cause and that's the scary part that's how I explain it to all my friends anymore like me and the exact flaming work together so we'll be talking about it and stuff everybody else is like

what you guys talking about I'm like, oh, that's just, cool, we're in. And honestly, it just gets to, like, as a resignation. We're just like, it's, it's a cult. Like, yep, yep. Somebody that submitted for you was talking about how they enjoy watching our videos with you on YouTube. And I thought that was really funny. Oh.

Because I was like, no. No. Yeah, it's probably, that's probably not. You're probably thinking we're Tanner. and Tommy, which is fine. Yeah, we're Tanner and Tommy adjacent. There we go. Which is, so they should be Tanner and Tommy and we should be Tammy and

Tanner. Yeah, there we go. I love one. People naturally say Tammy and Tonner, it makes me laugh so hard. Like, my, between my wife and I, we do it once a month. Like, one of us once a month says it. And then people say it on here every now and then. And, oh, that's great.

It's really my favorite. All right. I hate them with the least fun, most fun. All right, Hunter. You've been around long enough. You probably know how to play this game. But let's go ahead and explain it to your family and friends. How do we play least fun, most fun?

Yeah, least fun, most fun is a game where these gentlemen give me a topic, and I tell what is the least fun about it, and then the most fun about it. Beautiful. Perfect. Well done. Least fun, most fun. Restoring cast iron skillets. What do you think about that?

Oh, God. Yeah, I'm going to go with the least fun first. There's a lot of least fun, actually, now that I'm thinking about it. Brother, yeah, I mean, you, if there's like six things, I don't care. Just you have like, you know, up to three minutes, go. Yeah, I always wind up with too much. So. To do.

Yeah, I try to buy some cast iron myself just to restore for fun. And then friends and family will want me to restore some of theirs. And then three months later, they're like, hey, do you, do you ever get that cornbread pan finished? And I'm like, I have. no let me real quick for you just get overwhelmed then of course

everything's hot whenever you're trying to like re-season and burn yourself all that stuff so you don't use like a vibration plate or anything like that

you're doing it all manual no right now I do the live bath thing it just kind of eats off the seasoning yeah it's down the middle

and obviously clean it very well and reseason it I'm kind of trying to look into building one of the electrolysis tanks. That's what I meant, yeah, the vibration plates or electrolysis tanks, yeah. I've not ventured that far yet. I try to stay away from like super heavy rust just because of that.

But I would like to. I would like to get into that. But it's just another one of those time things with a two-year-old and work. It's kind of limited. Do you use, I know I bought some chain mail for cleaning my cast iron. Do you find that that's the best option? Yeah, especially when you're not, I'm not super great at cooking on cast iron. So my food gets stuck all the time.

Me too. My wife, she's down to an art. My wife, she's down to an art. She can cook anything cast iron and it comes out great. And then I'll be like, I'm going to make some eggs and I'll pull out the cast iron. She's like, no, you're not. Get out of my kitchen. Eggs are hard.

Because you're going to leave that for me to clean. Yeah. And you're not going to use enough of anything and I'm going to hate it. All right, most fun. I guess it's the after fact, getting to cook on them and eat whatever you make. Nice. Well, I thought that was... I like that how kind of correlated back to the backlog of being, you know,

having the doing it at your own discretion versus being obligated to do it as kind of how you feel about when people ask you to restore shit for them versus just enjoying it. That's why I don't charge anybody. because they might not see their paying again for the next two months because I'm going to get overwhelmed with all the other ones. Yeah, that sounds like taking your hobby to a job level. All the fun goes away when it's more than just a fun hobby. Yeah, all fun, no fun.

Do you want the hype person question or the new one I was thinking about? Go ahead with the new one, I guess. Okay. Hey, if you could have one training session with anybody alive, dead, or fictitious, who would it be? Oh, gosh. That's a rough one. You asked for the new one, sorry. I have to go with Ronnie Coleman, just for the...

Yeah, buddy. Back then, though. Yeah, back then, Ronnie Coleman? Yeah. Yeah, not today's Ronnie Coleman, I'm pretty sure. They didn't bring up C.D. Fletcher, though, that would be. That one would be hard because I don't like being yelled out while I left. Depends on how crowded the gym is if I'm not in a home gym.

Yeah, that's true. You get super awkward when there's people in there and your buddy's yelling at you. And a lot of swearing. Yeah. I don't even swear this much. It's like having Keith in the room. Who me? All right.

nah do you want to move into the it's your life section of this yeah so big a big hunter uh feel free to let people know what you do for a living and i know what you do and i know there's a lot of people that have the same profession so if you want to talk about that great if not we can move on uh yeah i'm a police officer in a small town here in eastern kentucky that's uh there's a lot of least fun most fun there as well how long how long how long have you been a a police officer uh um I'm going on eight years. March will be eight years. I do need to add that. I keep forgetting to go back to the show, original show doc. So how old are you then? 28. Oh, Jesus.

You were literally pulling people over as a 20-year-old? So you were writing people up for DUIs when you couldn't drink a beer? Well, I was, you have to be 21 to be a police officer in Kentucky. So you were just turned 21 then. Yeah, I turned 29 in January. So two months after that I had on. get started police in some reason but yeah man way too young to be doing it 21 is way too young I mean depending on how your benefits and shit work there what is it you think you put like put your 30 in

and you can retire or is it not yeah 25 okay so yeah the sooner you start the sooner you get out really so at that point you can retire at fucking 46 years old or something yeah yeah if you get with a decent department starting out uh some of the smaller agencies around here don't have the uh hazardous duty retirement they call it just a regular 401k so oh that's fucking yeah i wouldn't do that hers probably three or four years were just wasted somewhere like that but okay but been at my current department i do have good benefits now so so you have a 25 in there or is a 25 total 25 in there okay so you'll see you'll have to go closer to 50 but it'll have before they can transfer over so i have a question because i know like i will attest to

this, a 21-year-old and a 29-year-old are two different people. What do you think is if you had to give one lesson you've learned between 21-year-old police officer and 29-year-old police officer, what's the lesson that you would tell yourself at 21 today? Probably just to, I don't know, I guess, slow down with everything. Like, when you first start, you're kind of in a big fizz trying to figure everything out or act like you already know everything. I think the best thing to do at that point is to just kind of breathe,

ask someone for help. Like, it's not a big deal if you don't know what you're doing whenever you first start doing something. So I'll get with that. I think that's a good lesson that anybody would take doing something new. So thank you for that.

All right. Toehead. How much do you want to get into your lifting history? That doesn't matter I'm a toehead anymore sadly No hair at all All was that when you still had hair on the sides Is that what people called?

Apparently I think it's Something about blonde hair Early hair I don't remember the meaning behind it But yeah I used to have really long blonde Like white blonde hair Like Hulk Hogan Yeah

Oh, I'd love to see that. I wish I still had it. Me too. It's another thing I would tell my 21-year-old self. Enjoy your hair while you have it. It's not going to last much longer. I had hair down to my chest, and it was long and straight red hair, and it was gorgeous. And then it started thinning pretty early, and now I look back, and I still have dreams where I have long hair again.

And I'm like, man, I could still grow it out. It would just be a skullet at this rate. Yes, I get a little bit of around here. It's about it. You have those old Play-Doh dolls, like you could squeeze them and the hair would grow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always tell people that's what I am. I just ran out.

That's it. So, yeah, the lifting history, where, how'd that go? With high school, you know, or I would say in your early 20s, but you were already, you had to start lifting for your job by then, more or less, or at least be fit. Yeah. kind of started like I started wrestling in eighth grade

kind of went from not doing anything ever sitting on the couch or just nothing to all of a sudden I wanted to wrestle one day did that, lost a bunch of weight

and after that season I kind of determined I needed to be stronger so started lifting there just for sports never really made anything too crazy. And then obviously after high school, well, shortly after high school, the

Police Academy came about. So it transitioned to more running and stuff like that because that's what they want you to do in the Police Academy. Basically is just punishment workouts, I call it. After that, I kind of got into the, I like the power lifting stuff more now. So just doing that. I can eat more. That's cool. Nice. use all that cast iron to eat. Yeah, I get some steaks going. So how did those punishment workouts

help you catch the person that stole your car? They didn't. Nothing they could have taught me. What I'm saying. Tell us the story if you don't mind, if you're allowed to or if you want to. Oh, yeah, there's a funny news clip out there. Oh, we do that.

Yeah, no, you know, no probably, like that has to be like we need that link up i got roasted over that one because obviously i had the same face going on like this grin that's always on my face no matter what i'm talking about but uh yeah one of our other officers had stopped this guy anyway he winds up in the back of my car handcuffed behind his back had my little cage shut and everything because it's hot outside i left the air running the car running they want him to smother to death back there but we were still searching his car and stuff like that.

And the next thing you know, my horn honks somehow. I don't know why he did that, but, and my car takes off driving down the road. I just jumped in a car with another guy. We did not catch it because he had a great lead on us in a all-wheel drive Dodge Charger.

And me and the other guy were in like one of the Dodge Ram police trying to catch it. did not see it again until very late that night. It wound up on a strip job. He ditched it. Keys, everything were still in it, thankfully. So, yeah, we got my car back the same night. Got a lot of overtime that day because I was supposed to go off 4 p.m.

It was probably 4 a.m. by the time I finally leapt my cruiser into the driveway. Oh, jeez. Yeah. I was gross on Facebook. They had a, the news thing was live. And I had never spoke to a live streaming news camera in my life. And I don't plan to ever do that again.

But, yeah, I was telling the story the same way I am right now, laughing, chuckling. Oh, yeah. They didn't go over well with their supervisors, bud. It gets worse because I was the supervisor at the time. That's why I ended up speaking on the news instead of anybody else. smacked your own wrist after that, huh? Yeah, that was a rough one. That's, well, I'm glad I could help you relive that.

No, it's still a hilarious story to tell. Well, there's got to be, like, there's got to be fallout from that. Like, your buddies, how, what, what, how many years ago of this happened? Like, Bob, right? Like, so, but, like, you still get, there's no way you don't get shit for it once every six months, if not once a month. Very often. Like, is there, like, I always. almost want to hear like what's the top couple things you remember of like is it just

buddies being like hey remember when that happened dumbass or do they actually like blow up a picture of it or like like like has anyone done any elaborate pranks you can't tell me what to do you can't tell me what to do you had your car stolen yeah there was one guy from here uh one of my friends but uh he posted a picture of it on his facebook and was like for sale don't lowball me I know what I've got. That is actually funny. Sometimes I'll see it before he does, and I'm like, I'm just going to go ahead and tag myself in this

and share it before you do. That's the marketplace, but deal of the week right there. It's on just car, and just cruiser. It happened again recently, too, a different county. One of the deputies got their car stolen within like probably two months ago

and he did the same you posted the picture of the car and was like for sale that's wild so did you end up well you are as they knew who it was because he so he fled the scene with his car

you just sitting there and he just hopped in your car like he was in the back of your car whatever but like his car was there or at least a car he was in so it's not like he got away with anything right no he went to jail and everything but like everything

was there his truck was at the gas pump. We had his license. He had to be under some kind of influence pretty heavily, I'd imagine, to be that fucking stupid. Yeah. We had, it was all done basically. Like, we had already

established enough to put him in handcuffs and put him in a car. Like, he was under arrest. And he had been just sitting on the curb watching us and talking to us the whole time. Once he went in the car, I guess he was like, this is a good way. out.

Those guys messed up. I would have never ran on foot. I just, I can't understand how people make decisions the way they do sometimes. It's always confusing. Me either. So you lived with your son. Tell me about that.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, he hangs out out here with me quite often, unless it's something dangerous or too many moving parts. But he turns two in under a month, the 14th. Or the, hang on 12th. but yeah he hangs out here he's got some little plastic little plastic barbell and stuff great deadlift for him ready amazing i throw some bob the builder on the tv most of the time he just chills and watches or dances around whatever cheers me on sometimes so it's pretty cool probably

the best part about having a home gym is getting to incorporate him and my wife you know they come out here and hang out or my wife's recently started lifting so hey there you go that's always fun pretty neat that is pretty good he was the main reason for the gym basically so it's kind of hard to get to the gym and to work and all that when you have a baby so yeah so were you were you based so obviously it was it was a time saver but did you find it to where you just weren't working out as much as you wanted to or you couldn't commit the time to go hey i need three hours to go to the gym work out for an hour and a half get back home etc which uh which which one was that

yeah it was the time for strength basically uh then again like i would we pretty much always have like a babysitter available either my parents or hers but uh i kind of felt bad saying every day hey can you guys watch while i go lift and then i rush home and shower and go to work i just i'm missing out on a lot of time with him that i don't really get because of work anyway so what should do you are you on a swing shift or do you have a pretty sad hours or it's everywhere right now we're doing uh which this is a good part uh we're doing seven on seven off oh my seven on obviously free rein i kind of catch up around the house because during my seven on i don't get to do much around the house but uh i'm all evening and a night shift so my first

four days of the week are uh 10 hour shifts and then the last three are two 14s and a 12 Jesus Christ. Yeah, it kind of runs like Monday through Thursday is a 40-hour week. And then after Thursday's the end of the time period, so Friday, Saturday, Sunday is another 40-hour week. That way you're still getting, you know, 80 hours a check. But no, but it's not overtime. It's just like a salary-based salary, but then you get a week off. Yeah, that's hard on my time, but that check doesn't, you know, it doesn't reflect per the 80 hours, I guess.

yeah that's dang that's that's tough that would be very hard but those long shifts are long yeah like it's worth it after that like the seven days off is great so a 14 is 14 be hard like a 10 I can do up asleep but fuck a 14 is like I don't know I've been working 11s this week and I'm like that's all I want to do I don't want to work a fucking 14 yeah which luckily we're not a super busy department it is a small town so when it's slow it's slow that part kind of helps the 14s but a busy 14 is horrible

especially with all that paperwork that you love to fill out yeah it's great is that is that all tablets shit now or do you actually are they like other than writing a ticket like do you have to like do notes and shit with pen and paper or is it all like you know

uh like if I'm kind of interviewing somebody I normally just do it on my phone the notes. They kind of teach against that in the academy because they say it's going to distract you from the person if they were to do some crazy. But I can type on my phone and look up at you, whereas if I'm trying to write with a pen and paper, I'm going to have to look at it and nobody does that anymore. So I'm just kind of accustomed to type it on a phone.

But yeah, everything else is just on a laptop. There's a little server that has all of our reports on it. you just kind of fill in boxes. So that part's pretty easy. And with all the transcripts being released now for all the new operating systems, that should get a bit easier. Yeah, I hope they do update it. Yeah, it would just be one of those like, I'm just going to hit record.

It's going to transcribe you word for word. And I might have to change a couple. Because I know even on the new Samsung's, you can record phone calls and have them transcribed and stuff like that, right? So I know they're getting pretty intense with that stuff. Something funny did happen locally. Other than you can your carstone. Yeah.

No, this was recently a trooper in a neighboring county used ChatGPT for his citation. And at the bottom, it was like, would you like for me to put this into a blah, blah, blah, format or something like that? And he submitted it that one. And the lawyers were throwing a fit. It was on the news recently. It was kind of funny. Oh, man.

people are way too reliant on AI it's it it even drives me crazy I don't work in an office scenario or setting anymore and um it's like when I did you could tell right it'd be like oh it's your job to send out the communication today and you would just see the threes the emojis the m dashes like all of these and you're like just do the minimum and speak in your own voice. Like, we don't want to hear this. Yeah, I used to see for a lot, but that is not one of the things that I would ever dream of using it for. No, not for work for me. Not anymore. Yeah. So, do you want to tell us about your gym for a minute real quick? Just what kind of,

how do you train, what kind of equipment you have, just, you know, how much better your gym is other than your other buddies in Kentucky? Yeah, I like the power lifting movements more than anything else now. I've been doing the 5-3-1 prior to Squatover. We've done it for, I think this is our fifth year, me and my little trio of buddies that I've mentioned a couple times. I'm doing the Squatober. Now, is there days where you just do some air squats with that shit? Or are you putting a bar?

There's the way you're putting a bar on your body five days or seven days a week, is it? it's it's a five day a week plan you get okay it's a day off okay that's a little it is scaled

kind of like you're not going to be doing like 95 heavy every I'm putting knee sleeves on five days in a row fuck that

I do I have two pairs right now I'll try on whatever the other is sweaty oh nice today was

uh Bulgarian split squats and then front squats and then back squats squads, but some days it'll just be like a 50% two sets of 10 back squat or something. So, like, it's, they help you out a little bit, but then every now and then it goes berserk. That doesn't sound fun. They've got one called the pressure cooker.

I think it was 80, 85%, maybe. And it's as many sets of two that you can perform in a 10-minute period. That one's terrible because I always said a goal in my head that 10. is reasonable to sit a minute, set up to a minute with a little bit of rest. It's pretty rough. Yeah, that sounds intense. How hard was it to get the wife on board with starting the home gym? Like as far as, I mean, was she pretty much on board with her?

She was like, well, no, I don't want to park in the driveway or anything. She's hit miss on it, mainly because I spend money out here. But this room, whenever we first, we just bought this house, we moved in, well, probably exactly a year ago it was October last year this room was built onto the house it's a concrete floor we were always just called it the mud room

here and stuff you're not even steal in the garage then it's just no it's heat and air that sounds pretty damn sweet but we just piled junk out here and I was like it's getting hard to go to the gym every day I was like I might try to buy a squat rack

something or bar just to do those quick workouts here and stuff. That's the last thing I need. I think I'm about done is the famous last words of every home gym builder. Blame Masonomics for most of it.

Hey, check out their affiliate codes. Maybe you save some money. If they don't have the most home gym tours on YouTube, they will soon. Yeah. I've got a lot of it off in the marketplace, though.

I think from like a couple of 45 pound plates the only thing I have purchased new would be the rogo-ohou power bar nice the west side barbell edition it was just one of the had-to-have-it things so

what that one but I found my deadlift bar on marketplace all these stall mats on marketplace I'd like to get a different wreck eventually I'm not a huge fan of this one but at the time I would work well it's like a marsy md 50 or something it was it was a probably few hundred dollars to get into it kind of thing but uh yeah i'm sure something to something to hop up a marketplace yeah it uh it's got you know high and low cables

a little pick-deck thing a smith machine all-off uses and then you can use the front half half rack so you kind of need a secondary rack then it sounds like if she's already into that so you yeah yep you got to get a second rack and maybe move some shit around we ran into that the other day which i don't know i've probably not got room for another one but I'm going to try to get her to lean away from the Smith Machine Love, try to get through there. I've had fun with that. I got my whole gym pretty much built before the wife started using it. So it's kind of like, now I'm like, oh, well, what would you like?

But it's already like the gym is pretty much established. There's not a whole lot of moving stuff around at this point. Yeah. All right. Let's see. I think we're ready for some games? Where are we on time? I don't know.

I'm good either way. Anything jumping out at you? Yeah, we can move to games All right How are you feeling Hunter? Oh wait, what was that? Uh, a velo spearman Six

Yeah, yeah, I'm not man enough For the big 15s Or whatever you mentioned the other day Yeah, I got the cherry colas in 15s I don't think that we have that in America And I actually have two of them in Because it's the end of the night So crazy

Yeah That would put me down It's probably should be putting me down. I have definitely, my tolerance has not got to a good place, but I refuse to buy anything more than 15s. Yeah, I used to do the rogues and the 6 milligram, but all my friends started doing the velos,

and they pack a little more of a punch. So I actually have some white fox as well, but I don't like them as much. But the, I distinctly remember somebody being like, I won't name names, but they were just like, oh yeah, you're shitty Canadian Zins. And then I was just like,

these are Swedish. Like, they're literally written in... That's what I asked. Do they sell those in Canada, or did you have to order those? So these are technically illegal in Canada. But there's also places like reservations

where laws don't really matter. So... I want some Canadian rain. Isn't the, the caffeine's like, what is it, 180 instead of 300 or something like that? Yes.

Anything over 180 is, is not supposed to be marketed in Canada. Sell of rain, but 300 milligrams of caffeine it was. Yeah, it's free working out. It's weird that that's the default, because I know,

you give me 150. I'm good. I can do, I can get bucked up the American one here, and it's 300. Ghost is 200 in the States. and we can get that here but again you have to go to places that

have it but I think the Canadian ghost is only 180 the Canadian bucked up is half cans so it's only 180 right they do those slim tiny cans and I'm just like I'm not I survive around 120 to 160

but every once in a while I'm like I need 200 or 300 like today sucks tomorrow I'm probably going to want a 300 I try to limit the... Sorry, go ahead. No, you're good. I'm trying to limit my caffeine at 600 total a day. Yeah.

So if I drink a rain and then pre-workout, that caps me off. Then I'm going to get to work and be like, I need a little more caffeine. Well, yeah, because you're working later in the day. My day starts at 5 a.m. So I'll have a coffee, which is 80. And then between noon and 1 p.m., that's when I'll have my energy. drink, because I know then by about 8 or 9 o'clock, I'm tired, and I can get to sleep. But if I have a 300 at 2 p.m., suddenly it's midnight, and I look like, what's that guy,

this swelder guy? He was at Massonomics gym. James, I think his name is. Come on, gravity is a choice. I didn't, I don't know who they. Yeah, the Tanner's buddy. His videos are hilarious because he'll be like. He's not my cup of tea.

He's like, you know, let's, how many Bush, lots? does it take for me to catch a fish and then the next cut is him drunk holding his cat wearing a Batman mask like one eye in it I don't know you're talking about now yeah if I have a 300 milligram caffeine at 2 p.m that's me but like not hammered just watching YouTube videos like 30 second video clips at one in the morning knowing I have to work the next day so uh brief circle back so so circle jerk yeah her too um i thought someone had like misdid bad grammar so you're saying a rogues like plural is like a nicotine thing not the company like is that what you're saying like rogues a brand of zen yes never heard that okay because i was so fucking confused like

you had like six different people talk about rogues and i'm like the fuck are they like i got i got i got them in aberdeen when i was there i'm so confused okay there oh here we go i don't have any but I did make a funny little spin the other day on plate snacks with some barbell incaps. Let me grab these. Nice. Code unpaid. It looks like Rogue can, but it says instead of like 6 milligram, yada, yada, it's 45 pounds, double-h barbedo deadlift bar.

That's genius. Because I have a rogue deadlift bar. Imagine turning your strength goal plates into Zins. Like those are your zero plates. I did use Code Unpaid, by the way. We like to hear. It's good stuff. All right.

You want to hit him with a rush more then? I thought I was on FMKs. I'm not good at these multiple choices anymore. Yes, I meant to say FMK. Because I put a lot of effort into this one. It's all you. You were on FMK.

I deleted all 10 suggestions and made my own. Are they the worst sometimes? Well, it's like, sometimes the FMKs are the worst submissions. It's just like, ask him this, this or this. I'm like, well, no, give me, give me. Oh, it's like, Like the most vague, this, this very broad topic. Ask him three things about it.

As Kim, pop stars. And I'm like, that's just not, yeah. Yes, not FMK domain. No, so what I did was I went through the notes and then I went to his Instagram. And then I created this. Good. FMK. Do we know what FMK is?

Yeah. Would you prefer like tickle, Mary kill or something like that? It doesn't matter. Okay, I just noticed you haven't sworn. yet. So, like, if you'd rather the other one. Oh, you guys are good.

Okay. So FMK, Squatober, Deadsember, and competing. Hmm. I knew this wasn't going to be easy. I probably marry Dead Sember.

That's probably my favorite one. I've mentioned. I enjoy Deadlift better than anything else. There is no reason to live. Probably kill squat it's over. Yeah. I basically just do it to prove to myself that I can. It sucks and hurts the entire time.

Yep. And I guess at least one option. I'm a F competing, which I've only done twice so far, but I would like to do more. Well, the best thing about Fing, especially when it comes to competing, is the more you do it, the better you get. That's true.

Well, hopefully. That's what they say anyway. It's not what they say to me. Well, you passed FMK, my friend. Yeah, you can come to Home GymCon next year and do, there's strong man, old-time strong man, power lifting, and, yeah, I think a couple other things. So you get all kinds of options there for competing.

Do the old-timey strong-man with deadliest lift and pick things up with your teeth. It's funny because there's another podcast that I listen to that's like not related to my message. notics at all, but there's no other podcast. No, no, it's just a couple dudes shooting the shit about the gym and stuff. But then, like, they were actually at home gym con and did the old timey strong man thing, which I didn't even, I was confused by because it's like this whole weird federation, but they do like odd. They do like a touch and go bench press and like an 18 inch deadlift.

And like that's the, it's really, it's like a hybrid of like odd power lifting and weird not really strong man lifts. It's, it was very confusing. I'm still like trying to figure out exactly what it is. But I don't know. they'll be at home gym con to go check that out uh all right mount rushmore i want to hear i think a bunch bunch of suggestions so i'm going to go i want to know top four country music artist uh sturgle simpson has to be number one he was mentioned 97 times on your notes yeah big Sturgle Simpson fan uh that you guys know about him he's uh kind of disappeared he got big for a little

bit i know the name but i know i'm i've listened to him on spotify tomorrow in your honor yeah he decided he didn't enjoy being famous i guess and just kind of dropped off the face of the earth isn't that what um the king of shit mountain song was about yeah yeah oh no i I love that song. Yeah, that's a good one. He recently came back probably two years ago as Johnny Blue Skies, which is, he just changed his name, I guess, and doesn't do Instagram anymore. But, yeah, anyway, that's number one.

I won't go down a Sturgle rabbit hole with you. I like Chris Stapleton a lot. Mm-hmm. See, your country arts. Yeah, he's good. Sorry, I'm scrolling through my library here, figure this out. We'll just assume the other two are Clinton Black and Clint Black, you know, just, just fuck off. As better as I say it, I like that Gavin Adcock guy.

I just don't like watching videos or TikToks of him because he's super cringy. Who the fuck is that? he's got split songs who was that in the background I thought it was your video I thought it was your kids was talking in the back well I had some voices in the background

is somebody here not muted I will murder them nope I think it's just could have been my kid screaming or something I didn't notice well apparently Joey just threatened them with bodily harms

you might have to lay down the law here and if it was crew that had not muted oh I got you no I think the three of us Yeah, I hear them now,

the kitchen next to me. I feel like all our, they're great. I thought we were in a cameo. All over lucky those last couple months have been like upcoming guests that have already been on, I feel like. And now that they've been on, they're like,

I don't need to be on anymore. Upcoming guests that have already been on. Yes. So like three weeks ago, the people that were on the following week and the week after that were the ones tuning in every week because they were already in our private discord. And they're like, oh, I want to watch the live.

Okay. Because we had a brief period of time where we had a shit ton of viewers. and by that I mean like six or like four including us okay then you got one more left yeah yeah I guess I'm gonna take it back a little bit with this one not too far but Toby Keith there you go the honorable mention there stuff and he probably didn't he probably didn't uh didn't do a whole lot of like new stuff when you were I mean when you were a kid but like he quit like putting out good music when I was in high school I feel like like the early 2000s like his stuff became kind of cringe he started talking about like a big yellow truck or something i was like all right toby i think i'm done listening to you for a while yeah how do you like me now is like the peak that was a very good one good deal all right well let's see anything else we want to hit on additional info i don't know i think we covered a fair amount i'm gonna hit them with some

affiliates here so we got barbell rescue our good buddy kem over bobber rescues code unpaid there help save you a little money home gym con come watch hunter uh you know do some lifting at home gym con next year as he already committed to here uh grant uh you know go buy some shirts off grant at strength co save a little money on uh the apparel and uh you know god damn i every time i say it now i just want to fucking smack joy you little shit you know like when you hear it then it's like i'm like waiting sorry that i'm waiting for the judgment uh i zoned out if that helps I need to train myself to not say things sometimes. But, you know, fuck!

It's a, dude, it's a mental tick. I'm not judging you. That is hysterical. But at the same time, like, it's just one of those things that you don't know you're doing it. I know. And it is, if something you points it out, then suddenly you become aware and you might, you might exchange it for something else. Yeah.

Or you'll just keep doing it, or you'll stop doing it. Like, dude, relax. It's, it is what it is. We are also brought to you by Strongman Scoreboard. No affiliate there, but, you know, if you're a Strongman promoter and you're listening to this, you probably already know about it. And last but not least, Floral Designs by Kay. Should they have, Nate had guaranteed that they will stay fresh forever. That is a lifetime guarantee.

That's pretty funny. They did post a funny reel. it was like K putting his body in the trunk or somebody's body in the trunk and it's like when you didn't order from us All right unpaid or unrated Yep, yep

Are you familiar with this game, Hunter? Do you want to explain it to your friends and family? Have you heard this? Have you seen about this? Have you heard about this? You're aware? Yep, yep. Heard about it. Basically, these gentlemen give me A topic and Wait, wait, wait, no.

Mm-hmm. No, you got it. I'm not out of control. You've got confused the... I can do it if you... Okay, so unpaid or underrated. Relatively the new segment we have here, I'm going to give... Joey and I are both going to give Hunter about three of our topics here to go through. And, you know, it's going to be something related to him in one capacity or another

that he has some druthers on the topic about. And his end of goal decision is to consider it underrated, which means pretty awesome or... No, he means unpaid. No, he means unpaid. underrated. Unpaid or underrated. I'm not the only one struggling with that. Underrated is great.

And unpaid sucks because no one wants to be unpaid. This is only like the 140. We are not professionals. Because now you're having, I was about to tell you about the last game that we played. You just made me like look at it and be like, wait, did I?

No, has it been wrong in the show notes for 10 years? You had it right. I am the stupid one. You're good. I know. It's all good. I know.

I'm going to say I know rather than you know. Because at the end of the day, I know. I know you're the stupid one, Joey. We've always known that. Yeah, I know. You might. You know. All right.

Big Hunter, I'm back to you. Unpaid or underrated. The Ramcoda. I've heard that that place is underrated, but I don't think I could ever find it. Which, which, which I guess I was, now, I have very much deliberated on which one I wanted to put. I just start with this one, right? Yeah. So.

So I didn't, we didn't bring it up during the, so do you want to tell the whole story from your point of view, I guess, of why we're asking this? Yeah, a couple weeks back, somebody asked where the Lift Hard Live Easy is. And I remembered hearing the word Ramcota repetitively on the Masonomics podcast. And I was like, I'm going to help this guy out. Go ahead and just Google that word, tell him where it's at. and I remembered hearing Tanner or Tommy 1 say something about

trailer and stuff back and forth like the equipment and I assumed that it was kind of further away than than it is

but yeah the Google results were North Dakota instead of the dean it's all good you got a little honestly

no one really gave you shit for that except me I think because then it was just yeah just keys I was like come on man like don't be answering wrong it goes back to the whole uh well i guess it i guess earlier you said the advice you to give your younger self is just kind of like don't be afraid to fail

kind of i mean you really are embracing that now with your no but it was uh it was pretty funny but it was also like it wasn't even it's like the first person to even ask it was kind of like wait you don't know this already and you're here and like if but it's all good like we don't I think with some of us take for granted, I guess, how deep and how long some people have been around and how stuff that you instinctively just know of like, yes, this is in Aberdeen. Because I think someone even was like, I don't know where the gym is. Like, I don't know what state or city the gym is in. And I'm like, oh, okay. I have that part.

Google just steered me wrong on what a ram total of. And I think it took me two years to pronounce it right. And I still probably don't pronounce it. I may not have it. All right. So unpaid or, I guess, well, yeah, you got that one already. So unpaid or underrated flea markets. Oh, underrated.

I love flea markets. Are you a big haggler? Or are you just like, I'll give it your $7. Haggle a little bit. Depends on what it is. Or like, my favorite thing to do is pretend I don't have a certain bill in my wallet. And I've only got a five. Can you take that instead of 10?

Something like that. Yeah, we found all kinds of good stuff. When we first moved into this place, I didn't have any, like, pools, basically. So we hit up the flea markets, like, every weekend, and I would allow myself X amount of money out of each check to get whatever tools and stuff like that. I needed shovels. I don't know, everything. Smart. I do, like, the trick of, like, you know, playing dumb with the money.

Like, I've sold so much shit on marketplace that people come to my house. Like, no, almost no one, I mean, everyone has, you know, virtual pay now. But, like, 10 years ago, like, that people, that wasn't. a common thing. So I'd have some, some, some, some, some Joe Shmo show up and buy something for like 60, you know, for $75 and all he has is 80. And he's like, oh, do you have my change? I'm like,

I'm like, I said in fucking McDonald's. I'm fucking Jay. I'll take the 80 though. I'm not going to, I'm not going to give you a discount and I'm not going to take less like, so, you know, it was just funny that people show up to buy stuff. Like, what a private sale would not have the right amount of money. And it's like, I'm not going to have, I don't have change.

friend. Have you ever watched Letterkenny? Very little. Just like clips that my friends have showed me at work. Okay. They did an episode based on a show here in Canada, which is like the garage sale flea market haggler guys. And there's a very famous that, I don't know, that sounds like retail.

I think you can go lower. And they do that like through the whole episode to each other. I don't know. I'm thinking that sounds like retail. can you go a bit lower I want you to work that into some of your haggling next time you're at the flea market 10 bucks

that sounds like retail can you go maybe 8 or found a yoke it's the Titan short short guy nice how much it's a couple hours away from here but Sunday whenever we get back from

Louisville I think I'm going to try to go get it well how much because I've got a it's 200 bucks because right now they're on freaking their own clearance for like 350 you can get it delivered to your house for 350 i'm like strongly considering that yeah if i don't find one which if i don't go get this one uh by black friday i was gonna hold out check them out then but i'm just saying like they're like 50% off like normally it's like a five six hundred dollar item so for being the free 50 that's i don't

know if they're trying to come out with a new one or they're just cleaning house with them but i was blown away like it was an act of like like 52% off or something stupid but yeah 200 bucks for a yoke good deal. I thought I heard our drive kind of sucks though. Yeah, I was like, I don't even want to haggle with this guy because I'll just take it. The haggle should be like, can I pay you like 275 and you drive an hour towards me? Yeah. Yeah.

Time is money. All right. Unpaid or underrated Bigfoot. We call Bigfoot unpaid unpaid. I don't think the guy's real. No. I don't know. There was some big foot,

big foot talk somewhere up top. I get the reference. I'm trying to think of, is there like, maybe it's not like the Sasquash Bigfoot. Is there something else that I'm missing? Because I definitely. The candies?

The delicious, delicious candies. I don't know. I've never heard of the Bigfoot candies. You guys don't have big foots? I don't, I don't know what you're talking about. It's like we do. They're the shape of a foot with a one big toe.

right so they're like they look like a foot and then the one big toastics and they're like red and taste like um probably like Swedish berries is that a Canadian thing fuck the fuck do you mean Swedish fish what's a Swedish berry is either no yeah yeah anyway I know we know what Swedish fish are but does it's just like a like a gummy bear Twizzler little piece of red candy no there you might have them as Nordic berries so if you go to IKEA you might be able to pick them up there um what's on ikea I don't believe that one. I know what an IKEA is, but I know there's an Ikea in New York. But it's it's either in Niagara Falls, I think it's, I think the only IKEA is actually in Canada near me or I know there's an IKEA in Niagara Falls. I just don't know. I think it's got to be on your side.

It is. Yeah, it's actually not Niagara Falls. It's in Burlington. That would be the closest one to you, but there is one in New York, as crew has definitely pointed out. But no, so they're, uh, they're just red berries that taste like sweet. They're the only things that taste like themselves. So you know the Swedish fish energy drink, the ghost one?

No, I know what Swedish fish are, though. Yeah, but Swedish fish, do they come in other colors down there where you are, down there, up north? They're just red. I think it's, I think it literally, it's just like a red gummy candy. So it's, okay, the same thing, just berry shaped. Okay, there we go. That's what I figured. I'm glad we got that.

I assumed it was some derivative of that because it's like, it's... Derivative? Swedish berries are first. Potato, potato. So Twitter fish adjacent. Yeah, there we go. Everything's adjacent. You're up, buddy.

Yeah, all right. Unpaid or underrated professional athletes. Unpaid. I don't do many real sports very much. Overpaid. Yeah, yeah. I didn't know how to answer that one for a second. I just said what you were thinking.

Like the power lifting strong man's stuff like that, some UFC, but as far as real sports, I'm not the guy. I'm a weirdo. Me and you both, my friend. So yeah, those guys are overpaid. Yeah, the most, the only one I know is the guy married to Taylor Swift or whatever his name is. Chavez, Kelsey. Sure.

Mr. Swift. Cam Scatap. Yeah, he seems pretty cool. I've just said clips of them, but he. he definitely has some CTF on CTE. There was like literal, there's been so many memes about how like, you know,

average speed, average you know, agility will fucking literally run through a wall with already has CTE or whatever. It's like that guy is going to have CET. Yeah, CET. It's going to be pretty cool though. Yeah. He's definitely you know, got some people behind it.

Speaking of that, unpaid or underrated, Taylor's West Endow album. unpaid I couldn't ever listen to it if I tried I don't believe now is that because you don't like mainstream things

I don't like mainstream anything what she was country she was country when you were a kid well you had to be like a baby when she was country yeah not music wasn't she on American Idol I don't know probably not she was I think that's Kelly Clarkson

yeah she was like she still did she I think she did country from like call it like 2008 to like 2011 maybe she was country and then she you know went main to i don't know i would say sold out but then all those songs were anyway just break-up songs yeah there was a lot of those there was a couple truck like that is there anything mainstream you can get behind uh or are you a bit like me where you're just like i'm not getting into that shit and then like 10 years later you're like man i'm really sure they got into that at the time.

Hopefully, it's funny. It's going to be mainstream now, though. That's true,

yeah. I just started being the thing you hate like three weeks ago. Sorry, you have to say that one again.

I just started Game of Thrones like three weeks ago. Yep. Okay, so you're like me. Yeah, I'm not watching

that because you told me to. Fuck that. Yeah. This new album is horrible and then two months later I'm

blasting it. Yeah. There's anything else this mainstream is. So the story would be Black Label

Society the band my buddies were like you would love this listen to it and i was like you're not my boss i ain't listening to nothing you tell me and then we go to ozfest and black label is headlining the not headlining but the opener band on the second stage and i was like i don't care about that i'm going to go meet slip knot which again no regrets yeah would probably do that as well yeah two years later black label society is my favorite band and I've seen them now I think three times

I have a tattoo I have so much merch and it's just like because I had to find them on my own does that make sense yeah I didn't like fertile Simpson

whenever he was mainstream but then he disappeared and I was like this guy's really remember the days look at my whole personality yeah

no I hear you on that one the only reason the only reason I just wanted to relate because I'm the same way yeah anybody tells me listen to something. I didn't listen to that.

Somebody sent me, Lorna Shore. I'm not listening to this. Crap. Six months later, I was like, this is the best. Yeah. Unpaid or underrated bugs. Unpaid. Why? Hey, bugs. All of them.

Like, all of them? I can't think of a bug that I enjoy. Well, you don't have to enjoy them. Is there any that you tolerate? I've got a lot of joy out of stink bugs lately, because they're taking over. I have a friend who is also a crew member Big Zach Fleming is terrified of stink bugs

So we're like sitting next to each other at work If one lands in my car I'll just grab it throw it into his car That's been very enjoyable But yeah I can't think of any other bugs I I'll tell you just for the sake of the story I hate ladybugs

and I know this is gonna this is gonna be controversial I hate ladybugs I hate them with such a passion because I got bit by one once and I was like they bite some of them do

well up here we have the Canadian ones you must have a literal different strain or something yeah we do they're called I think they're some sort of import from Asia

and like they're just a slightly different color and I got bit by one once and I felt so betrayed because ladybugs are supposed to be like the cool bug and ever since then I hate them and I squish them when I see them

didn't I leave work and there was yeah they do that too they did that yellow stuff that they let out I leave work yesterday isn't there a hundred or 200 lady bugs and I'm boxing

as I'm going to my car to keep them off of me like I'm punching them out of the air I'll spiders down praying mantis down anything i'm just like as long as you're not on me without my permission we are fine my friend ladybugs i hate them with a passion so do uh this might sound unrelated but do you have stall mats your well hum jim yeah have you guys discovered any stall mass fighters no i get potato bugs and silverfish

myself a house centipede that's the same thing no silverfish are a little wiggly fish, they wiggle and they look like fish, but they eat like dust and glue and shit. I don't know that I've seen those. I get house centipedes and they fucking freak me. House centipedes are dope because they kill all the things I hate.

Kill my motivation. Honestly have discovered that our gyms both have this looks to be the same kind of a spider, but we've been called them stall mat spiders because I have no way else that we came from and he has them too. In his gym

which is floored with stalemats. What do they look like? It's a little brown spiders. Just little brown spiders. Do they move quick or do they move slow? Yeah, they're fast. Terrifying. So they might be wolf spiders or maybe jumping spiders?

Do they move in like? Keep those down in Kentucky. I don't need those. You don't get wolf spiders? I don't know. I've never got close enough to a spider to guess it's greed. Are they hiding under the stock? They come out of the cracks, I've noticed.

And they're not in any other room in my house. Just start taping those fucking cracks. Yeah, I was going to say those. I do need to leave those. I hope they're not brown recluse, because avoid the fuck out of those. I'm not going to get my one yet. I've been trying to. Check your shoes.

If you got brown recluse in the house, hide. No. I didn't meet them anywhere else in the house, but these stalemats, man. They just love them. Well, because they're probably eating whatever's under the stall mats, which is probably silverfish and centipies. I bought these used pressure washing them. off and drug him in the half.

So you bought some spiders, then? Yeah, you bought spider mats. You could always serve powers from them. Well, I think you passed unpaid and underrated. Indeed. He did good.

Yeah, just couldn't describe it. I mean, it... That's good. Neither could. Collectively, we couldn't either. No, Keith, you were right. And I was like... Your hesitation made me second. I'm like, wait, did I...

It's always that like... I was not about the wrong game. Because the worst is just being. like, no, fuck you, I'm right without actually like verifying it first in your head. And then it's like, oh, okay, I was right, a good deal. Yeah, what's your Hall of Fame number, 600? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just bet in a thousand a fuck something if it worked today. And I was like adamant that I was going to be right. And then, like, I went and double-checked it. I was like, fuck it. God damn it. And I'm the one that fucked that up. And I'm the one that, like, said I didn't. I was so mad.

All right. Well, Hunter, do you have anything for us you wanted to hit us with, buddy? I have a couple questions jotted down here. number one here Joey I heard that you're a big Evanescence fan along with Kill Switch Engage Did you hear that from my co-workers at work

Because I've been ranting about it lately Like it was the big MPC Gary Podcast No And they always ask And my wife loves Evanescence No I hate operatic vocals With

Unless it's like a cradle of felt song It's more than one song song like yeah no and just that one man who evanescence or kill switch evanescence oh i was asking keith like what that's yeah that's i don't know i don't even know what kill switch is but evanescence is wake me up isn't it well they also had my immortal and i'm sure there was another one that and actually the new song amy lee did with um poppy and that one metal singer was not bad um i think i listened it came out but i don't remember yeah i vaguely remember Yeah, I couldn't name, I couldn't give you any of the lyrics.

But no, no, I absolutely despise operatic vocals in metal. What about Ozzy? I love Ozzy. I feel like he's got some pretty wavy vocals, strong. I don't think I would compare them. Yeah, I probably wouldn't either. I do this thing at work whenever they're talking about it, and I'll just be like, yo, here's my impression of Amy,

stubbing her toe and then I'll just like kick something and go huh and it's like because that's her entire vocal thing is the huh and yeah every word is within that one little yeah and then the kill switch engage guy as much as I like kill switch engage like in general there are certain songs and his is no different he goes the

and it's the same concept but you know I just don't like that style. You could make an argument that Ozzy is like that, but I just don't think he's as forceful. But also listening to Black Label Society, which is, like, he does that, but he's doing like that meowie voice,

that like Lane Staley made famous, and people say the guy from Creed does he does, and Eddie Vedder does it a little bit from Pearl Jam. But no, I, I despise that What if metal But like opera singing No we don't need that

Nobody asked for that Also did you guys see about Ice Freilly? No When did that What? Did he die? Yeah, it's 74

Today? Yeah Damn Sorry to break that So you got Here I also don't like Kiss But also can recognize

how important he was I can go for a couple of songs there as I agree with that part though as a whole yeah not a huge kid in him but but if you're gonna if you want to talk glam metal at all they're going to be part of the conversation

yeah interestingly the one song I do like from them is a disco song it's not a metal song at all and that would be I was made for love in you yeah that's probably my favorite traumatic experience

the first time I heard that song I was getting my chest tattooed meaning like sternum area and I don't know if that song was on repeat or if it's just really long

I was going slow but that song was just that was only it kept me alive I think the pain in your chest made everything feel I've got a kind of like bobbing my head

trying to stay alive yeah I've got a tattoo just across my right bicep and it was most painful tattoo in the world. And yeah, I was just like, this is taking hours. And he's like, you've been, it's been one hour.

And I'm like, no, I've been here all day. This hurts so much. So I can see a song being on. You're like, this is the longest song at the world. I don't know how long it is, but gosh, it played the whole time, I think. Hunter, I'm going to hit with the curveball and circle back to you a little bit. I just scroll across the whole section of thing I didn't see earlier because it just didn't show my page.

So, um, is your brother, is your supervisor? Is that a thing? Yeah. he's the assistant chief guy's got to be the worst thing ever like nothing to get like just i couldn't work with family and i sure as fuck couldn't have a family be my supervisor how's how's how's that how's that dynamic we can't uh like he can't be my direct supervisor apparently for nepotism and shit that makes sense however i was going to say so like i can't answer to him but i definitely answer to that guy but yeah he uh he can't take a

be my direct supervisor that they have to have somebody between us or something along those lines. You do get along more than you butt heads then or you butt heads a lot? Yeah, we get along. There's a big age gap there too. So like he's seven years older than me.

Yeah. So like we've never had any sort of brotherly beef, I guess. I was too young to even be a part of what he had going on, whatever we're like kids, as adults, we're just...

My siblings are six years older than me, and I, like, never was on the same wavelength our entire life's even now, so I know how that goes. Well, that's because they're three feet taller than you. Yeah. Well, different dads do that. He's probably six, one, five, ten. I hear about that as well. And there's about to be a whole new dynamic with what your parents are about to do that's going to give you a whole new sibling rivalry and

age gap. You want to tell anybody about that? Yeah, that'll be pretty crazy. Crazy. Yeah, my parents are in the process of adopting at least one child. They've mentioned that siblings are kind of being pushed right now. That would be crazy. I know they were prepared for one, but who knows? They kind of just want to give somebody a chance that wouldn't have as much of one otherwise. kind of a thing I guess they had been talking about doing for a while and sprung it on the family one day. Of course, all of us were like, you know, we support that entirely. But have you guys lost your mind? So they're a decade removed from being, you know, actually having kids in the house then, right? So that's how they're in their 50s, 60s probably, early 60s?

Probably late 50s. Yeah. I've not lived there about 11 years. years so their nest has been empty for quite a while here they are with now they have three grandkids too ranging from 18 to two so a lot to a lot to keep up with but i'm confident that they can they can handle it they survive me and brother so no that'll be cool that'll be cool yeah i just i just wanted that the working with your brother kind of stuck out to me and then the the one about your parents adopting someone which kind of couldn't mention one without the other there

Yeah, working with my brother is something else for sure. You can't tell me he didn't give you the hardest time about getting your damn car stolen either. Oh, yeah, yeah, he did. Oh, yeah. And he also had the joy of arresting the guy that got my car. So you'd hear about that one often. Well. I still can't stop laughing at that.

well you get it I'd ask you about a good poop stories being a cop but no one submitted anything and I don't want to bring that up if it's not something you want to talk about but I guess there's not there's no good ones no one thought they were worthy of talking about

yeah I don't think I've had any issues at work as far as that goes always something open I guess I was I was I can't say who I was talking to but someone was telling me yeah no I actually we can't go to telling that guys it was a private conversation but there were some cops cops do some dumb

you're not the only cop that's done something stupid essentially i've heard a lot of every day yeah all right sorry sorry to steer that back at you but if you got to get anything else for us uh yeah i'll uh i'll give this one to you keith uh who is your favorite fitness influencer that isn't rude yeah i don't me Tell me all of your, like the influencer devil. I hate him so much. I don't even know. Like, I hated to use the tire of the influencer, but.

So he loves Gregory Jessette. I don't literally pay attention to anyone on Instagram. I'm to the point now that, like, all my say, like, everyone that I used to, like, everyone that I used to consider famous and, like, this cool lifter that I looked up to, they're all in, like, my least interacted with, like, people that I'm following. and then I'm going out of my way to unfollow as many people over the years now just to get like it's like all right I haven't I haven't cared about this topic in like five years why are they still showing me this the I I switch up to being weird too like inevitably all of them do it's got to be somebody on YouTube probably but like half people like everyone on YouTube that I follow it was fucking crew or crew or

adjacent I feel like like all mentioned uh Greg Ducet uh I've been pretty big into Shane Hunt lately. I think they had beef at one point. Yeah, but Shane Hunt also went off the deep end for a while. He's crazy. But he did come back, like, kind of okay. Yeah, right? Yeah, I kind of, I guess he got the help that he needed for all of that.

They're strong. He is strong as shit. I've- I've- does it, man. I've watched him lift. Like, I think I helped load the plates. Like, I've been there with him. He is strong as hell.

Um, but he also ghosted Massanomics three times. Yeah. I fell asleep. Yeah. And then just when, we won't get into details, but he did go off the deep end a bit on social media. Um, yeah. With some very

controversial stuff. And then just went away and then he came back. And like, even I've seen his stuff. And I'm just like some of that's okay some of it's still kind of out there um but i just don't there's just certain people some crazy stuff but uh there's just certain things i don't but i'm that way with almost any but you didn't ask me the question i'll just say i'm i'm i'm that way with most people like if i want to follow you for fitness content and suddenly 50 to 75% of your shit is political shit whether i agree with it or not and that's the thing

is even if I agree with you that's not why I followed you I will back off your account I say he's a go ahead I mean without going to end I mean I could go to Instagram but I went to the I mean long form content

would be YouTube so I'm just trying I literally just scrolled through like my entire subscriber list and like I need to fucking unfollow some of these accounts but like they're like 70% crew or like people very much like in the world but maybe Lucas Haddon

he's in know, I watch a lot of, uh, I watch the dumpster fire that is Mitch Hooper a lot of the times, but it's just because he's putting out so much strong man and strong man adjacent content, but like a lot of his stuff is like, like, it's a snooze fest because he's just, he's just, I think he's just trying to get bang for his bucks. He puts out fucking like four videos a week and one of them's going to hit is his kind of goal, but like, I don't know. I've, I've definitely shifted.

All of Mitch Hooper stuff is like him trying to do memes. It's all, and like he's trying to be funny, but I remember that thing. where I said, why do you just take other people's content frame of freedom for word? He doesn't want that. Yeah. What was annoying is like his one,

he had a video the other day that I was actually excited to watch. It was going to be like a, the 10 minute warm up for squats and deadlifts that everyone should be doing. And I went to click on it. It's like members only. And I'm like, oh, go fuck yourself. I'm not, like, pay me money to be my YouTube like premium,

platinum, suck my balls, follower, whatever. I'm like, I'm not paying you money to watch a YouTube video. I already watch an ad and you get revenue from that. That's not enough. I'm sorry. Sorry, Masonomics by your paywall. So I really don't have it.

Lucas Hatton, I guess, ish. But even that, like, I don't love a lot of his YouTube's pretty boring most of the time. So a lot of it is just like previews of like bigger strongman shows and stuff. So I don't know.

I don't have a good answer. There's not a lot of people. Most fucking fitness inflores suck in their content's only good, like a tenth of the time. If that. And that's being generous. And it's like, I can only resonate and connect with, like, a very small portion of what I see on YouTube anymore. It's kind of frustrating because it's like, I don't give a fuck about, like, am I changing or is it just stupid now?

No, it's all stupid. How about the most embarrassing gym moment? I think everyone's, you had a little shart once or twice, I'd say. I've banged my head on shit many a time. Is that for both of us or just Keith? Yeah, yeah, I'll give that one to both of you guys. Yeah, feel free. The time that my hundreds, I loaded them for a squat,

this is a very good lesson learned, my strength co-hundos, and the bar was not aligned. And it shot up, hit the ceiling, slid down, and left a giant chunk in the cement floor, where my mats aren't. Yeah, that was embarrassing. It was scary as shit, too,

because I thought it was going to take out the floor. I happened to catch it before it did, but it slid down and smashed into the floor for sure. Like, it went, jew! And so we don't use the hundreds on squats anymore. It's tough to get them up there. I bought it recently, and the first time I used them for squats,

I was like, I don't know if these things were a good part. No, no, they're definitely, I've made that comment before. I know Big Bryce has made that comment before, because depending on where your rack and the weights are, you're essentially bicep curling 100 pounds. Yeah. To then squat it. I remember Steve came over one day and he was like,

I kind of want to bench with the hundreds. And I was like, you're loading him. I'm fucking not doing that. And then he looked at him and he tried to pick them up and he was like I'm still going to do it but you're right this is stupid

like it was like and it's only ever happened once I strictly save those for deads because yeah I like them for dead list even then like the warm up set it's like I like to do 135 to warm up

yeah and then you've got to remove on my way up yeah like you take that off and put the 100 on yeah yeah you load a plate squat load the second plate squat load the hundreds plus additional squat and you're like

I just did like an RPE load Like this is ridiculous Yeah unless you just start everything at 245 that's it's hundreds are kind of Or not there yet They do have a place in certain gyms But I'll do it for deads 96.9%

Any time I also use them for the dinnies Like when I'm moving the dinnies I like to start with the hundreds Because they just make The most sense because they're bigger and heavier, but yeah, no, that was embarrassing. There's still, I still look at that chunk

in the floor and go, you fucking dummy, like all the time. I just saw it the other day, popped up on a memory of, uh, we were doing, we were doing something at the, the, the strong man gym I go to and we were outside in the back,

and I went to sit down after like carrying a hoose or something on a, on a natural stone just to like take a breather. And it was a really slick and like, I literally like slid down and it essentially pantsed me and I fell off the wrong. And it's on video. It's on literal video. And then like instantly like six people didn't see how I was doing. They just all fell over laughing. As well, they should. Yeah, yeah. That's the video. And I mean, I laugh at everybody who hurts themselves. It was on something.

they don't die. But I don't know. I've definitely had some near hurting myself falling overs and stuff. But it's like they're not funny if you really hurt yourself. It's only funny if it's like a near miss. All right. I think that Do you have any more? I believe that'll be good. Hell yeah. I don't have any more in my notes.

I've been thinking about them for weeks, just typing them in. Yeah, I appreciate your reaching out to want to get on. We're kind of the point now. It's like if people want to be on literally, like I'm not saying we'll take anyone, but it's like I want people that listen to the podcast. So I want people that like sees me posted on Instagram.

Like I've got, there's a lot of people that reach out that, you know, they don't listen. I was just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. We'll get to you. someday buddy but it's like you're never you're not listening to this right now so you can't be offended because i already know you don't fucking listen to the podcast so um if you are listening to this and you know just get me on bro just get me on bro it'll be a good podcast bro

like there's a very good chance if you reach out politely and you actually i can tell you listen to the podcast then you'll get on in the next three months so it's not that hard uh so you posted the uh sorry spots on the schedule there and uh big Brandon Doyle sent it over to me. I was like, check this out. Oh, yeah, I think he did even mention it. I think, actually, now that I think about that,

I think I only reached out to you because of Brandon, maybe, or maybe I saw your message after Brandon said it or something like that. But yeah, you guys have those? Is that a little bit of beer thing? Coca-Cola bottles, the little gummies that taste like Coca-Cola? Oh, is that actually a gummy, though? It did the last time I looked for them.

I don't know. I vaguely remember something like that, where it was like a wax thing. You only drank the stuff inside of it, but you didn't actually... You don't have coke on me? Jeez. You just keep those handy? You had that readily available.

This is the continuous Joey and Keith disagree on what is like normal. It's like, no, I don't know what that is. It's like I get fucking two hours away in a completely different worlds. It's pretty wild. It is crazy. I've got a friend in Maine, and it even seems like a completely different. world. Oh, so, okay, you're in Kentucky, so that's a little, so what, you said, you're Eastern Kentucky? Yeah. How far is West Virginia then from you? Like, it's got to be 45, so you know what a

pepperoni roll is then? Oh, yeah. Oh, we have the pepperoni rolls. This area of Eastern Kentucky has a gas station chain called Double Quick. And they've got them, they may be in West, West Virginia. I know there's some in Virginia, but they have the best pizza rolls is what they name. Yeah. I was like fucking Kentucky doesn't have pepperoni rolls. They call them fucking

pizza rolls or pizza logs, whatever the fuck. It's definitely different. But at least you get the gist. So yeah, that's what you ever see a double quick go in and get a pizza roll? Let's check that out. I mean, well, I didn't think I'd be in Kentucky too much, but I fucking drove all the way through it to come home when the flights got canceled

a couple months ago. I don't think there's any up, like, Louisville area. But I think the furthest one up is, like, Nicholasville, then Will Lexington now. So is Brandon, is Brandon the closest crew to, like, your kind of group, your core group there, or three? It would either be him or a big Austin Crumpton. He's got the Dragons Den.

He's in Bristol. Yeah, you see, I think he's, yeah, he's very interactive on the Discord. and Instagram. He might be closer. I think Bristol's only a couple hours from us. Louisville before. Any of the Indiana boys coming over? Because I know Brandon, it's like Debo and Jake, I believe, or right across the border. I might be off.

I thought they were all kind of somewhat close together, but they might also be out. I think they're closer to him than you are closer than you are. I was curious if any of them were coming over. I'm not sure if he's invited anybody else or not. That's right. I don't know how big is. basement is he might not have room for more than four guys down there honestly so that might be in my family we're going anyway they have like a uh it's called the jack-o-lantern spectacular it's like a little trail through the woods it's covered in jack-a-lantern's pretty cool but we're going to

take my boy to it and uh got to talking to big brand and we eventually decided that we would uh get together for a lift while i was up there so then big west is going too so he wound up part of the plan part of the reason I disappeared there guys is to see if I had Swedish berries in the house to show us yeah yeah and I don't

I have a Morkin's like why did he just come out of the podcast room asking about Swedish berries I know she was just like do you really need candy that bad and I was like no they don't have them she's like what? Belfad is

probably a couple of hours for me as well oh dope oh yeah go bother Chris anytime he's one of my favorite people I want to go by there sir and I sent him some stickers over the day but I do need a decent belt I've got a what they call this suede RDX

it's like training belts that means to be next year stay away from the flea markets and cast iron save you can go get a super decked out custom belt and or get a cast iron belt I think it was strength go The head has an actual

The frying pan. Yeah, they do have one. That's cool. I thought about it. That would be up your alley. I didn't mention, I got a cremied up this weekend. Oh, dope. Yeah, I'm going to make it out to big cams. Try to get Steve to come, but he's unavailable.

And did you see Deadliest Lift was in Toronto? It did not. Yeah, you know he is. He ever tells where he is. He'll say, guess, the gym. I never know where he's at. No, that's not Deadliest Lift. Discovery Deadlift.

Oh, yes. discovered. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he was in Toronto and I was like, I'm sorry, you're in Toronto, like you're 45 minutes from me and he's like, I'm literally flying out right now, but I'll be back. Gonna go out of my way to meet him. He's a... He randomly followed me on Instagram the other day and I was like,

I don't know if that was a mistake or not, because I've had no interactions. Probably not, but like he's a... You ask Keith about influencers, he's one of the few that I would go out of my way to go and meet him for sure. He's a genuinely good. guy. That would be cool. Yeah, so I told him I was like, buddy, I will show you all the places inside

that we can rock to and deadlift. I'll deadlift half of what you deadlift, but it'll still be fun. Well, you'll have to discover that, won't you? I'll help him discover it. Someone will discover something. Well, everyone will have to discover Hunter, and where are they going to find you, buddy? I told you my Instagram earlier and already forgot it. That's all good. You can...

If you type in Holbrook, you show up. Yeah, Holbrook underscore 1-1-1-5. Like Discord is double H-1-1-5. Where are you at, Joey? Joey underscore Malesco, M-L-E-C-Z-K-O. Oh, my God, I just knocked over half my desk. Oh, how dare he? We have an Instagram.

We don't knock anything over there. Well, I try not to. Yeah, you do. Sometimes I don't know. Oh, I fucking butcher. I got a side quest here because it's relevant. to Hunter. I, I butchered last week's, well, yesterday's Instagram post and tagged Hunter instead of Wes. And then I used

Hunter's fucking song instead of Wes's song. And then Hunter's like, wrong dude, buddy. But everybody was like, this song's a panger. And there was like three people that called it on the song. Yeah. So I might just have to run back the same song. I don't know. Because then I actually, I don't even know if Wes acknowledged that because I kind of felt bad because I was like, man, I don't want to steal your thunder, but also it's already has. By the time I saw it already had like 20 likes which is like half what we ever get and I'm like I'm not going to delete it now and then fucking reposted so I could not find a way to delete the song

once it had been on there so I was like uh sorry it's like I had a promise song for my other option so it's pretty cool so yeah I try to always which famous song I don't remember maybe uh Jerry was a race car driver that's a good one thank I actually there's there's almost no song that you could have said that I wouldn't have said, that's a good one. I know they can't all be zingers, but with primates, they are. Website, internpodcast.com.

Nate does a lot of good work over there. We do have a YouTube. I'm Keithan, I got 73. More importantly, go follow my orange gym than a wine cellar. We'll see you next Tuesday. I think I'm worse at my job now because of this fucking podcast.

And like, not even this podcast. Like how many people I know and have to talk to now, it's just like i love you guys but like it's so hard to keep up with everything and it's like yep my brain isn't getting bigger or better it's just getting fuller and like shit's literally like overflowing out this who is it that was like somebody recently was talking about a lifting club for their kids and then i was like i named three people i was like it was one of these yeah it was um i was right with again it was

of my guesses, but... It was the one guy. It was the one guy. I was like, I don't know. It was this guy, this guy, or this guy. And it's, it's not that I don't like enjoy being on here. It's just, there's so much. But anyway.

Because we've still, as everyone we've interviewed is still outside of like three or four people. Like, everyone's still crew. Everyone's still interactive. Like, so it's not like, we can't just like forget stuff. Like Tamara. Tamara. Tanner and Tommy can just like forget stuff. but it doesn't matter because like

no one give the fuck about like the 300 CrossFit episodes and shit and like there's probably I don't know what do you think they're on episode 500 so they've had at least 200 actual 250 actual interviews maybe there's 50 of those people that probably aren't even relevant any type of community

whatsoever anymore so they don't even have to think about those people whereas we like I don't we can't forget our friends because we're going to see them in person and like they're so our it's just it's different we we almost have to remember, like, most of what we say, and it's getting harder and harder to remember anything. I don't know if it's just an age thing or what, but I'm struggling at times where I'm like,

which person is this? But, I mean, at least we're all very distinctive. None of us are bald with beards and, you know, we don't look the same. Like, there's, there's no overlap on, like, the way people sound or the way they talk or their profession. Like, there's zero overlap of anything crew, which is good. It makes it easier. Like, no one is the same name.

no one's Instagram handle isn't their real name and it you know everyone's lines up with what their discord is that is what's really uh-huh yeah i wish i've been talking to mpc gary for four months now and i listened to your all's podcast with him i was like that guy's name is brad well that one don't even don't even feel it about that like he introduces himself it i i think he'd be mad if you called him brad kind of thing like he doesn't he's like I wouldn't say professionally, but like to all crew, he is Gary. Yeah. Good dude.

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