Unpaid And Underrated - 132 : Crumb On It

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Patrick. They dive right into great topics like painting, profanity, trauma, the big 4, fires and the new Ü&Ü hoodie. Links Ü&Ü Hoodie (https://www.sellmytees.com/festrengthlab/store/product/u-u) Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @carkhz (https://www.instagram.com/carkhz/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Patrick.

Welcome back to unpaid and underrated the podcast for crew, by crew, relentlessly mocked by crew, and sometimes recorded poorly by crew. We are here on episode 117 and we're joined by a few special guests, one of which just dipped out to get his headphones. We will bring him in as soon as he is. ready. I'm big Joey and I'm reading the notes and I'm

really loving gear narrow topics. Gear narrow topics. That's some good shit right there. I'm joined guys. I'm going to...

Big, Keith here. Howdy, howdy? What about? I'm going to screenshot that shit.

Was that me talking? It was, where are you reading that? It's right in the notes, man. I know.

Geer narrow topics. Like, right at the top. Where it normally says general topics it says gear narrow oh yeah there's that's that's right up general is still not spelled that way i don't know where that came from i'm joined by big keith uh i have big debo here

with me hello and uh big pat big patrick hello hello hello hello shalom as always let's dive right into the gear narrow topics. Who's drinking what? The basic lacroix, little lime liqueuroy. Pretty good. You got anything over there, Debo? I do. I have the blueberry pomegranate bubbly.

Nice. Come and prepared even on like that sounds awesome. I'm about 20 minutes notice to hop on the podcast and talk about some stuff with us. About you, Patrick, anything good? I have got a big old jug of cherry lime made flavored BCAAs. So, there you go. How else can we get my water in, I guess? Nice.

I got me a refrigerator, cigerator right here. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Yeah. Is that a zero? It's a Coke zero sugar. Only 38 milligrams of caffeine. She only keep me up till tomorrow's. I am wearing the huge life shirt, mostly because it fit and I was happy with it.

Anybody else got anything cool? I see a nice sweater over there on Big Pat. Yeah, I got that one. It's the, uh, was that strength as a number, weight as a feeling? Weight as a feeling. Triggas a number? Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Well, it's a number heavy as a feeling. Her too.

If I knew everything, I wouldn't be here. We are not professionals. I am not, I tell people, I tell people all the time. Like, I'm not perfect, but like, and then it's kind of like, you know, depending on what the topic of conversations, I might be like, pretty damn close sometimes. But if like, if I'm right, 95% of time at work, that's pretty goddamn good. And I'm going to, I'm okay with that. Poe buddy's nerfic there, bud. anybody else wearing anything cool like yeah buddy wait it's a good one well i am uh that's a good

that's a good segue that is it that is a perfect segue actually on into that yeah so uh i have the new you and you the unpaid and underrated hoodie on nice tell us about that where does it come from yeah so keith um me big jakey and big brandon are all in a group chat because we're all going to room together at an Airbnb and crew falls and one day big brandon just out of the blue is this brings up is there a way to get a you and you hoodie and everybody me and jakey were like, yeah, we need that. We want that. So Keith was like, well, let me first see if it's okay. So he got it cleared through Tanner. And you and you had to go through the board too. Because it was like, there was a lot of moving pieces of like, well, what if Tanner wants

to make one and we don't want to take away from them making our merch, but it's like, okay, well, it's already, if that was going to happen, you know, we're already wintertime. So I think we're, I think we're okay. They're not making a hoodie for us. just yet so uh but everyone everyone you know gave the green light as long as it wasn't necessarily like you know coming from you and you so right and uh so i was able to get the design logos from keith and we locally have a store that does all of these like stores online and so like as an individual, I put my gym tea on a shirt and I sell it on that store, no profit. I don't get any money out of it. It's just if somebody wants my shirt, they like it, they can buy it.

And my family, my kids all wear the shirts and things of that nature. So I said we could do it on that site. We can set it up where nobody makes any money other than the company that's selling us the T-shirt. And they do ship, unfortunately. Unfortunately, not to the neighbors in the north. So the Canadians have a slightly harder route to go. You have to have someone in America buy it and then ship it to you, which I think is what Big Joey is having done for him, right? Yep.

It's already done. We'll talk about that later maybe. Oh, yes. That is, that was accomplished today with some back and forth with the post office, but it's all good. We got all squared away. We did get two burn stone with one rock on that one because I'm going to get the refresh of the stickers as well.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did a plate snacks reorder, so you got 20 of each of those coming your way. And so, like, I went to the people and showed them to design, and they put it together on the hoodie and a zip hoodie. And we posted it on the Discord last week. And we've already had people buying up the zip hoodies and the regular hoodie to rock out the U&U podcast.

Yeah, so just for my own input on this one, originally when Keith had sent it, it was only on the zip-up. And I was like, I hate zip-ups. Can we do both? And that's when he came to you and said, can we do the other one? So for all of my over-the-head non-zip-up friends, you're welcome. I would like to Well, ironically, you brought that up in the podcast

Yeah, like the week before Yeah, it was You said you weren't getting the gym zip up Because you didn't like the pockets don't come together You can't put your hands together in the pocket. Yeah, I don't like zip ups in general And I do want to point out Something you didn't mention

If you don't mind me kind of stealing that thunder a little bit This is actually our logo As much as you know, we love all the other merch that's come out with our stuff on it. This is actually our podcast logo. It is our U&U. It is our unpaid underrated logo. So this does look exactly like everything you've seen from us.

Again, cool part is nobody's making money on this. This is literally a venture for crew by crew. I mean, well, that's what we tell people. But like, like even though we're in Debo's not making any money off the store, like he still has to pay me $5 for every order out of his own pocket. We got to get Nate that speedboat. So, I mean, I will be collecting that at crew falls one way or another. there big divo no that was uh but no this all i think this like in the last i don't even think

it's been three weeks in the making i think it's been like like 12 days or something it's it's been very uh very like you had them in hand with it from within like 10 days of us like you guys asking in the in the group chat about you know starting it up so things moved pretty quick on that well whenever it's it's something that we wanted and it looks cool and uh they feel great by the way whenever you put them on the it's soft on the inside and if it fits true like i'm wear large and everything and this fits just fine incredible pat any any intention on grabbing one of those big patrick i got to be perfectly honest with you guys i hate zip-ups yeah that's why we got the regular hoodie

we have a regular hoodie that's what i'm wearing you do not a zip-up yeah i'm not a zip-up regular hoodie that's just my yeah there's both yeah there's both of them uh they have originally only done the zip up and I said no please do a regular hoodie so now we have the regular hoodie and the zip up oh thank god because when they released that maroon one was it two weeks ago and i was so excited for a new jacket and then it's got the zip up and i said i just can't do it i'm the same way yeah i have about four zip ups and i wear one and that's like on special occasions when i want to show off the t-shirt i'm wearing so i prefer the pullovers as well well thanks debo and thank you for the group chat for getting that to

together. That's, uh, it's going to be an interesting crew falls because I think there's going to be a lot of unpaid and underrated represented at the Massonomics meetup. And, uh, I don't have a lot of complaints about that. I think that's hilarious. I mean, so Tanner did a, and I even like, I even like with with Tanner because I was like, because we wanted to go black hoodie red lettering, but they got back to D. Boer and they're like, we think it's going to be like at least the red that they had in their like print shop, whatever they thought it was going to bleed into it. That would be ugly. I would be honest. Like, so then it was, we want to go red

hoodie black or white writing and nobody's wearing a red hoodie except no i wouldn't wear a red hoodie but anyway so like because essentially it is the same color scheme of the the hall of fame jacket so i just wanted to be like i like specifically made that point to tanner like i think i the point to tanner though i think i could have asked tanner for almost anything and he wouldn't say no so it's like i guess i i guess it's not that big of a deal that tanner said okay we release our own drink cozy i i like i like it have to be so vulgarly crossing the line for him to actually say hey asshole no that like so i guess it's all just a formality because tanner's never said no to anything we've ever asked him in like the three years we've been doing this because he's just a great dude but um yeah i i kind of did think about

that the other day i was like what would he have like what ungodly request would we have to make for him to be like guys i don't think that's going to work out our own drink spotter yeah that would be pretty cool yeah uh so yeah that that that's dope um so like jake brandon and i are all flying out of louisville together and we are coordinated we're going to be wearing this on the flight and beautiful everything going i the unpaid and underrated is the official flight uh uniform of it does seem that way every time i've been anywhere flying i just said walk into the airport and everybody's got them on but me i was the last person to put mine on i was like well shit.

Just fingers crossed airports work in four weeks because that's going to be an issue. But all right, well, I think, I know not to cut that short, but we do got a whole list of topics. You can feel free to stick around Debo if you want, chime in or dip out entirely up to you, my friend. You know the drill. Thank you. Did you have a driving story, Joey, or is that me? Yeah, no, that was me. Okay.

We do talk about our frustrations with driving a lot on here. Um, Patrick, you can hear me. Okay. Uh, it was just one of those times where my driving philosophy paid off perfectly. Um, it was a two lanes. And the car in front of me was stopped behind a car trying to turn left. And that car turned left. And then they drove like another block.

And then the next car was trying to turn left. And this dude was getting so pissed off that he went into the right lane to pass the car turning left. in a residential zone and then got stuck behind parked cars and ended up two cars behind me and it was such a perfect payoff because me, my driving philosophy is I'm not in a hurry to get anywhere

I will wait patiently for you to turn please be safe and this dude in all of his rage ended up two cars behind me and I just wanted to share that because like it doesn't happen all the time that you get to see the payoff of your own patience and I did there

and I thought you would appreciate that one, Keith. I do. I did. That was enjoyable. I was like when people get what's coming to him. Yeah, you can be mad all you want. I've got to veer off. And then I'm just like, well, bye.

Yeah. So anyway, that was my driving story. Yeah, it's been a bad couple. I've been driving past Buffalo and back every day for the past like a month's straight. And, oh, God, there's just been so many close calls. Like, I've almost got hit like five times. It's just like, it's just been so many close calls. Very frustration.

But a little tidbit of. positive work news, I guess, would be I put in for my Christmas vacation today. I'm, it's not really Christmas, it's more like end of year, because you only carry over so much. Like, I'm not at risk of losing any. It's just more of like a, I historically, I always try to take a solid, like, whatever days I can take off to, to, to, to marry the Christmas and New Year's holiday and at least one weekend to where I'm getting several days off with only using a small amount of PTO. But I think I'm in using six days of PTO and I'm going to get like 12 days off consecutive. of nice like like I mean that's that's like a lot of my PTO but still it's like it's going to be worth it because I just I needed to decompress like I did the same thing last year but I got fucking sick and so I was sick for like six days of it so it literally ruined like 50%

of my vacation so I'm very optimistic this year I can recharge my battery do some stuff around the house so like when I when I wrote all that out and submitted it to my boss today I was just like that instant like weight off my shoulders of like all right now I have something to like really look forward to at the end of the year of just like there'll be a little bit of light Like, I'll just, you know, put my head down for the next two months, power through and then just fucking ignore anything that I don't want to consume for 12 days. I'm very much looking forward to that. Same here, man. I've spent 13 years in retail up until this year.

And normally by now I would be on two meetings a week preparing for Black Friday. And I was not aware it was November. And it felt so fucking awesome. And somebody was like, Black Friday's coming. And I was like, I did not know. And normally I would know down to the exact minute. And then today we got our week, our, our Christmas schedule. And I actually get to be off on Boxing Day.

I don't have to work 13 hours for eight hours of pay. It's a load off, man. Like when just that kind of stuff comes your way and they're like, well, well, you know, we're off the Thursday, Friday, and then it's Saturday, Sunday. So we'll be back on the Monday. And I'm like, I get four days off. There you go.

Like regular. Like I don't have to. to book it off and justify it and feel guilty. Don't use vacation for this. That's good stuff. Yeah, it's pretty wild. Oh, you're not allowed to book vacation at my old job. Yeah, I was actually just going to say, like, I don't know how vacation works when you're like,

you're working flex hours anyway, kind of. Yeah. So I hear you on that one, buddy. We're going to have a hell of a last week of December there. And we do have. So if any actually good call out, anyone available to record the right around to that Christmas time, like we've got an open spot and I haven't really reached out to anyone yet because it's like i don't know when joey and i are available but if you know you're

available sometime in that week let me know if not we'll we'll figure out something or maybe crew will reach out to us and do an episode but it's like the only thing i'm that's not booked for the next like month uh month and a half um big patrick got a big question for you buddy or what do you listen to on are you so are you Spotify you apple where do you what do you get your podcast Spotify all right so have you have you rated unpaid underrated five stars on Spotify yet. I would have to check. I'm pretty sure I did.

Okay, could do. Well, a reminder to anyone listening. You know, as Tanner says, we think this does something, but we're not really sure. Apple, you can rate and review. You can, you know, type a couple lines there. If you have any good words to say about us in Spotify, you can definitely give us a five star there. I don't know of any of the other big apps or, you know, platforms that really let you rate.

I mean, it's always good to engage on YouTube. Give us some likes there if you can, but just, you know, help us at. Like, you know, this isn't a small amount of work that we do to bring this to you guys every week. So anything you can do to kind of help us see that you're listening and, you know, partaking. It's always cool to see. So we would do appreciate that. Got a brief. I don't know if anyone saw, I got a, I got a new yoke this week.

And the funniest thing about it, it's like the tall one. So when I went to go load it up in my wife's car, I was like, this might not fit. But I had measured it before. So I kind of knew it would. But just the picture of it standing next to my car. It was the funniest thing ever because it like towered over it But she did disassemble and I'll go in there

So we'll have a new yoke for the garage It has a lot more just better features In the old one I had So kind of excited for that And I guess we can Let's see I gotta get a good story But Joey had to step away for a second

So I'll save that one So I'm gonna go ahead and let Patrick rate Last week's episode and tell us all about it The uh that would have been the 500 episode correct Yes What'd you think about that I liked it. It was a big surprise. When they first had those pictures when they, I think it was the day they would have been recording at that gym with the, I think there was a Smith machine in it and something else.

Oh, yeah, the Airbnb, I think, wasn't it? Yeah, I had no idea where they were at. And then when they teased and released that they did it at Mount Rushmore, I got to say it was pretty impressive. And then to dive into the similar universe with Huck Finn Barbell, then criticizing them about thinking they got them beat with, the Grand Mount Rushmore when they pulled it off already on episode 200 at the lamp lighter and I say it's kind of hard to beat that one but I think Mount Rushmore was pretty

unique in its own right so I guess if I had to rate it I'd like to go old school and pay homage to the original I'll give it 5 JD Power and Associate Awards out of five there you go there you go yeah I great episode the premiere I don't know if everybody

I don't know it was just a lot of people seem to have issues, but I think it was more just closed your app, open it back up, or try it on your TV. I was trying to watch it on my phone. It just wasn't really working out, so I don't know. But I ended up getting it all sorted. But very cool. I feel like they had a lot of engagement through that. It was kind of neat.

Episode itself was great. The funniest thing was when just like, like of course Tanner knew someone there, like just with his family and just came over and shut the shit with him for a couple minutes. Like, that was just hysterical. 500 episodes is wild. I mean, that is, like, four, four and a, it's over four times that we've done, give her to, yeah, just over four times. Like, that's just, I couldn't imagine that's a lot of work. So, kudos to them. I had some notes, but they're not really making sense as I read them back.

I think the whole, the gist of my notes was, I think that they talk about, I think they may be touched based on something of like, you know, during their guest period and, uh, you know, how it was a lot of work to prepare and then like, you know, I, I don't know if they even said it or I just something I like extrapolated from it if how it relates to us a little bit was, uh, just, I don't know, I kind of lost my train of thought there, but it's very cool. Oh, just the whole like the, the, the network they built and stuff and I don't know, just 500, I'm really losing my train of thought there. So 500 episodes, very cool. I'm going to go ahead and give it five out of five chicken nuggies. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. I challenged Tyler last year to that. And he said, don't worry, it's coming. So I guess that's a never-saint-never scenario. I don't think it's ever going to happen. Episode 500, incredible, incredible work, pulling it off, hiding it from us, tricking us into thinking that the jacket crew were in on it. That was pretty funny.

I saw through that in the beginning. Yeah, yeah. There was definitely some collusion. I think it was like, I think Scantz was probably just like, this will be funny. Let's tell people we were involved and it was like, you old son of a guy. I mean, it was, it was a nice level, a nice layer to the whole thing. Yeah. A good episode, especially recounting, having Sean's on, having Tyler on, getting Dodds on to represent

us, even though who could, who could, oh my God, yeah. I think somebody in the Discord pointed out that his, uh, his audio in the bathroom on this podcast was better than the last mom's podcast. I, that was a funny line. Yeah. What did they say specifically, like, thanks for rolling your windows down and turning your radio all the way up for the entire time you're on the phone call. And it was just like, oh my God, that's literally, like, what are you going to do? Like, I mean, you could have pulled over maybe if he was a rest stop, but like the five minutes he was on, what's the likelihood that he could have, like, had a spot to pull over.

Like, I don't know. Well, I don't think pulling over would have mattered. I think he was just on the wrong headphones. He has since replaced his headphones, so don't worry about it on his next appearance on the thousandth. He'll be good. um are we going to discuss 501 at all yeah what was so 501 came out this week they talked about yeah good call i talked about vulcan versus gluck yeah yeah uh in all of their expert opinions um being from there was a whole there's a whole episode i missed there yeah these notes

are a little dated that's okay um i mean i'm not going to weigh in i'm also not an expert uh i do think the idea that you can sue somebody over the review is insane. I do think that's an insane take. I agree with Tommy, the PR. The argument they're going to have to make is Gluck caused damages with his review, and the counter argument is then you cause damages with this lawsuit. And there's no coming out of that in a good way. So I'm going to go ahead and give 500 and 501, 5 out of 5.5 out of 5.

shitty racks nice oh yeah I could call though I will circle back to 501 because I definitely completely you know brain farted there and I think my notes make more sense now because I was like they didn't talk about this on the podcast I can't even see your notes and here I am now it was basically yeah it was something the extent of like

I think Tommy said something about how like like how often do you like interview someone and then like kind of become because I think they were talking about like with like with Grant and like other people that they've like Grant Brandon like other people they've, like, met in person and been, like, good friends with them, like, interact with. And I'm like, like, they have, I feel like the, we have that on such a bigger scale than they have even. It's just kind of cool. So, like, yes, like, and that just becomes very cool to like, just, you know, the similarities there.

But, uh, just that made, yeah, I lost a whole week there. Yeah, I would point out that, like, I think you're correct is that we get to do that on a weekly scale versus their, you know, scale that they were on. And Tanner said it the best that, like, he gets to listen to this podcast and learn about the people that willingly give him money every week. And then those people will show up to events. And Tanner's like, oh, I heard your episode. I know all about you. And we get to do the same. Oh, yeah.

We interviewed you. We know all about you. Like, let's skip over the gloss. We're already friends. And that's, it is kind of huge. I've made a lot of good friends. I got Will's number after his episode so that we can, you know, text and stuff like that like me and dodds talk a lot um so yeah it definitely is a

i think it's a massonomics perk i imagine there's other you know discords behind a paywall that have that but i don't think um i don't think it's to the scale that we have so no um what shit i just had another train of thought uh damn it was it we'll never know no it's literally right there oh the lift hard live easy so that was that was a lot of the topic of conversation too is like the big reveal it's a two day event and we can so we're going to have jake and abby on and a few weeks and they're going to tell us a lot about the strong man but uh you know the cat's out of the bag already basically there's it's a two day event strong man friday power lifting Saturday go ahead and start

booking your hotels and flights because it's good to happen boys and girls let's run in a back lift hard and again all the people that want to fly out at 6 a.m on Sunday if you done this before yet you know how much it sucks don't do it don't do it i don't know that i want to spend like five days in the dean though but i did it was great i got to go see rock the rock i got to go eat at kutoba i got to wander the streets of aberdeen with my backpack like a lost puppy in my tiny shorts like it was great um the other thing in general topics i was um so i did ship joey's uh package today the shirt and the stickers and dude it was a chore and like part of it was a mistake on my end because I I had like a when I shipped all of my shirts a few years ago I didn't like

have necessary labels but I was at the post office and they had all these like free priority mail labels so I just like took a bunch and then like just use those on envelopes and like t-shirt bags and stuff and the lady today I was kind of like yeah I know this is a priority sticker I'm not gonna let like you're gonna have to pay priority but it's gonna be like 50 bucks I was like, well, that's not going to happen. And she's like, yeah, you just have to like rewrite the label on something else. So thankfully, I had a little roll of tape in the car because like if you can't just like use tape at the post office, you have to fucking buy like a $10 roll. But I had it had something like that from a previous experience.

So after waiting in line for 15 minutes probably filling out a, a inspection list or whatever for the duties and everything of like disclosing what was in it like specifically the cost evaluation. it's like a pan in the ass to ship stuff ships up to Canada for the first time kind of like realizing like and she was kind of like just mean and rude about the whole thing it was very awkward situation and then uh you know i don't know so i have a solid half hour invested in getting joey's stuff but it's coming buddy merry christmas and that's to me that's wild because like i know about all of that like when i shipped to anybody that's more than just is it the vice versa down here like is it the like do you have to is it you have to is it you have to jump through hoops to ship shit to america yeah they're just

friendlier about it. I guess you just had somebody who did not want to be at their job that day because like when I did the, um, also like I did shipping and receiving for years. So when I went in, I was just like, I'm sending this here. Here's my duty paperwork. Here's what's in it. The value is zero because it's a gift. Like I was able to do all of that stuff, right? Because I'm not selling it. So it's just a gift. They're like, well, you need a value. And I'm like, then the value is a dollar because it's a gift. like there's no value to the receiver. I did say yours was a gift, but it still wanted to do the value thing. And I was like, yeah, I was like, how do I value?

Like, so I, because I was like trying to sit there like, like, okay, well, the stickers are X amount, maybe divide that by whatever. You overthought it for sure. So I'm just like, 25 cents a sticker or it's probably way too much. So I was like, yeah, yeah, I'm going to end up paying duties on that one. It's, uh, you said it would be max of $16 to duty. Yeah. She said it's like hit or miss. Yeah.

And that's fine. But like, no, it definitely, you do have to do. that. I just think you got a grumpy person that didn't want to help you. And I'm sorry. That's all good, man. Merry Christmas. We're good. Big Patrick, do you have a... Actually, no, never mind. Big Joey, do you have any affiliate read you want to hit us with? Yes, I do. Let's go with Code Unpaid and Obsidian Lomonia, our good buddy up here in London, Ontario, who also has to deal with over-the-border shipping. Definitely use that to get the strongest

smelling salts. I have been passing those around at work and watching the lovely reactions of men that think they can handle things that can't handle things. Code unpaid at plate snacks, which is where those stickers came from. I did give out a bunch of those stickers at the meat, which prompted me to remind Keith

to send me some more. And code unpaid at Bellfed Strength. I know he just had a big veteran sale, but if you're ordering from them anyway and you're not a veteran, then use code unpaid and save some money on their strength equipment. Yeah, but did you say obsidian's in London, Ontario? Yes.

That's funny because, like, I guess it's not funny, but, um, Elite FTS is in London, Ohio. Yeah, and they can probably see each other, to be honest, like it's, it's, it's, no, it's the opposite direction, but still, um, um, there's a lot of dead deer between them, the two London's. No, they're all in Ohio. Ohio love their dead deer. Yep. All right. Big Patrick, we've, we've, we've still on the thunder. enough from you. What's, uh, you get that

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if they get the same response or if it's a new one every time? I would say there have been a few. Yep, yep, yep, there have been a few, and no, they're always different. So don't forget, masanomics.com slash join. If you're not a member listening to this, two things. Why are you here? And second, I'm fucking shocked. I want to get our guest on the horn then.

Big Patrick, is that you, buddy? It is I. Is I? Big Patrick here. Welcome, welcome. We switch things up a little bit, so we're not going to hit you with the normal one. We're going to hit you with, who are you, man? Where are we going to find you at? Anybody wants to find you on Instagram or Discord?

Where's all those handles? Discord, I believe, is just Big Patrick. And then Instagram, I believe, is all lowercase carcs. It's a nickname I got back in high school. C-A-R-K-H-Z And Facebook I'm myself So

I am me Yes So I love Facebook Just as much as Joey does So that's about the only places I'm not very active on Discord Unfortunately Because I get a little carried away

I think sometimes When I get into it then And I have to take myself back Otherwise my boss starts to notice my decline And work Uh-oh I know how that goes. All right.

Well, how'd you find Masonomics, bud? I want to say it was, I used to pick and choose, I think, since like 2019, I think, when I saw some of the guests that were on. I originally believe, I never listened to podcasts prior to

I think the Let's Get Stupid Podcasts might have been the first one I ever listened to. And then from that, it wrote into massonomics. And, yeah, I want to say it was in 2019, for sure, 2020. I found one of their episodes and I listened to it and I fell into the same mentality of like, oh, this first half hour is kind of boring. Just get to the guest. And then I saw some of

their shirts, particularly the bench heavy one. Big fan of Bush Light here. So I saw the bench heavy one and I was just like, I got to have it. So it sat in the cart for about six months and I kept getting the email for the I'm Back 10% discount. Don't tell anybody Tanner's secrets. Eventually, I finally pulled the trigger on it and wore it, and I still didn't really follow too much until I think it was the Derek Fisselweight episode is the one that I listened to. And I was like, all right, these guys are, you know, they're actually pretty darn good at this whole podcasting thing.

And it was pretty much hooked after that and was a, I'm still a diehard listener to almost every single week. But I pull the trick on myself. I try to not watch or listen to them all right away so I can kind of build up a little library to listen to because at work I get to have eight hours of time to just listen to music and everything while I work. So I've got to build a backlog up for myself.

Otherwise, it runs dry. Makes sense. Eight hours. That's four episodes. Three of ours. Yeah, three of ours. where do you live where you're from i live in central minnesota um it is a lovely country up here so i probably guess for you guys down there um and then uh been here my whole life unfortunately

i was one of those ones that graduated high school never left i kind of enjoyed it here too much and i didn't really see see a reason why to leave and i found my career at the job i well at least one of the jobs I worked at since I was in high school, so I made a good career out of it, and I do good at what I do. So, yeah, I've been here forever. I just, uh, the older I get, the more I realize I don't like winter, and I see why people move south. Minnesota, the home of 10,000 shitty drivers for every square mile. Oh, I see that. No, it's total BS, man. We're looking bullshit. Driving the fucking airport to the dean, and you'll about fucking die 90 times.

I want to be interstate. Half those drivers aren't probably from it. sort of. Yeah, it was a rough drive. Yeah, I'll agree, actually. Any interstate driving, I think, in our Midwest is difficult because you get a ton of people that drive in small towns, and then they all pile on together going 75 miles an hour, and nobody knows how to function on that fast of a two-way highway. So I'm not big maps over here, but if I had to guess, what are you, like, eight to ten hours

from the dean? No, more shamefully, I think I'm only about four. and a half. Jesus Christ, because I was trying to give you, like, a little bit of, like, oh, this makes sense why you've never been to any of the fucking nine events that they've had in the last three years, but no, you fucking suck. That's not, that's not forgivable. Like, it's, it's not forgivable not to at least come and watch or hang out.

Like, like, and where's, how far Sue Falls? How far Sue Falls is, like, farther or closer? Like, imagine right now, Patrick was like, I've been at all of them, Keith. I'm just really quiet. Like, imagine. It would be funny. Like, there's, there are for sure people that I've talked to that I'm going to be like, oh, nice to meet you. Yeah, I think my favorite was Professor Sean's at my first Lept Hard Live Easy.

Right. I go walking past him, I stop. I turn around and I go, anybody recognized you yet? And he goes, not enough. And I'm like, all right, man. See you. And like, that was our whole conversation. I introduced myself to him why he was peeing out of ear and all that was my life.

in memory. Maybe we were actually, I think we were walking in together, honestly. It was definitely like, it was definitely, I don't remember the specific. It was a bathroom conversation, but it wasn't as awkward as the, you know, the one that Mo had with security guard. So again, so Patrick, like, you're going to be heading to one of the events sooner. I try. I thought about crew falls this year because I'm only about four hours away from Sioux Falls. So the kicker is where this, I wanted to go to the lift hard live.

easy this year, but we started building our house. And the house build has gone smoothly up until this point. And so we're still trying to finish up. We don't really have a actual furnace in the house yet, thanks to our HVAC guy. So that's where our newest dilemma comes in, and my crew falls probably isn't the best idea for me right now. So I'm thinking, and I've never done any powerlifting thing before either. So I know a lot of people are really encouraging about just try lift hard live easy uh you know it's perfect for beginners and i was going to do it last year but that's when we sold our house and then this year was pretty much out of the equation because we literally just started building our house at that time so um i'm thinking might try

next year but it seems like the uh we you got my advice is you got three weeks to kind of figure out if you want to sign up right granted like there's enough dropouts you could probably get a spot but like the meat will sell out in like a week or less like it's going to sell out before it goes public likely unless somehow a lot of people just decide they don't want to travel which it is possible like the the more new crew we get I feel like there's a lot of crew can't justify it like like Joey like I like I shouldn't be able to justify like I can't afford to keep going back to fucking South Dakota like it is it is an expense I literally cannot afford but it's you know hey I don't know how many more of these we're going to have so it's I'm making sacrifice. places now for the but but it's going to suck if it's like 10 years later they're still if i haven't like i can't go to a crew falls and lift hard live easy for a decade straight so and then to stop i need to like start going less or they you know ideally don't end but sorry to interrupt there but uh yeah uh good chance they are going to sell out so you know it doesn't doesn't hurt to get registered and then if you don't make it you know you're just out a hundred

bucks is what it is yeah i want to sign up i just don't want to go through the long period of time and then decide a month before. Like, you know what? Another injury had flared up on me, and I don't want to embarrass myself with my poverty lifts, and then I back out. That's my only... Still cool to come and hang out.

Still cool to come and hang out. Four and a half hours away. I'd give a left nut to biv for the four and a half hours away. Yeah, if I was four and a half hours away, I would be in Aberdeen probably once every, like, two or three months. I'd imagine. I'll come up for the day and then drive home. That's how nice it is.

Yeah, I'd be down there just like, hey, Tanner, he'd be annoyed of me at this point. point. Don't you have a home? Yeah, it's the Mazonomics gym. So you've been around obviously a very long time. So the next question, I'm interested to hear this. What is the one piece of Massonomics merch you missed out on that you wish you had? So I think I've got almost everything that I, prior to this meeting, prior to our time right now,

I think I picked up almost everything that I had originally wanted. because I always asked myself that when you asked previous guests. I'm like, oh, you know, I really wanted this one at the time. The yeah, buddy one was one that I really wanted for a long time, and then I finally got that. And then I, in our moving, our stuff to our new house, I was digging through one of my old boxes of my gym stuff, and I here I found an original Lyft T-shirt.

And that was one of the ones that I bought probably two years ago, I think. And that was another one that I was telling myself here the last couple months, oh man I really want that t-shirt so I was like oh god it's in a 3x so it's a little baggy on me but I was like who doesn't love a good pump cover right so the one I can think of for sure still though

when I had to give it some thought was probably the joggers so I'm a big fan of joggers you got that answer recently didn't we yeah didn't Sanchez say that it's a common answer because I don't think they've ever done I think they've done two runs of joggers

I think I think Will said it Yeah, they've done, it willed. But they've run two versions of joggers, and they've never done them again. And every, and then I like the hoodie thing, too, I was really excited for a new hoodie because I've got, I think, three of their hoodies total, and I love hoodies. So when they said they were coming out with a new jacket, then the zip-up shows up, and I got to say, I can't crumb on them too hard. But once I saw the zip-up, I was just like the Christmas story kid, when he reads,

drink more oil team I was like oh my god a dip up did you say did you say crumb on them

is that a Minnesota thing or a Midwest I don't I've never heard the term crum on like I get like

the concept is yuck someone's yum I guess or shit on them but crum I need some context there

um well he's worked for us for a couple years now but he's the one that kind of said it to me he's like you know I hate to crumb on

somebody and I'm like crumb like that's a good way to not say shit talks somebody so it's like okay that's a good one i i you know my new job it's a warehouse full of dude so obviously there's a lot of vulgarity so i like to bring in things that aren't vulgar um you know like what the flip something like you would do that wouldn't they absolutely it i do

and it's really funny to me uh what the flip i'm gonna use that i'm gonna hey i want to crumb on this but like this my my one cowork you know what he hit me with he hit me with a oh for five six for fuck six yeah it was the funniest thing i've ever heard i i laughed very hard at that one of my old jobbers says uh he says father mucker he gets pretty much he's like a 70 year old guy too and i'm like i do what it is obviously you know what he's saying but i'm like i'm just yeah i big fan of the pg friendly swearing go ahead case so where's that Hall of Fame status after tonight there, Patrick? I think this is number

seven now because I have six or no, this should be yeah, this I believe is seven now because I think six was without this and then I'm not entirely sure on my supporting member total because I want to say it's for sure over two years and I want

to say it's nearing four years either this January or sometime around then but I'm not 100% sure because I know there was a I think I had two times or my card expired or it lapsed or something and that's how that happens so I have both the supporting card cards or whatever so I know that much yeah that's good that's good um you're only four hours away from getting three I literally was going to say that I was like you're like you're

you're you're almost like you're like you're you could throw a rock and hit almost hall of fame status that's I thought about that and I think if I can I got to be honest I've really that social anxiety, like, or anxiety in general, probably. I'm going to throughout this podcast, I think I've learned that I have like ADD, and I already do I had a little bit of the tism, but I, uh, I

keep trying to find somebody to kind of come with me out there if I go, because I think it'd just give me that, that comfort blanket maybe just to, I'm trying to think where's, uh, we know, I mean, no, I, I guess, there's a lot of crew in Minnesota. I know that. But also just

pull it Gary and show up. And look at him now. right it's funny you won't regret it even if you showed up alone you might be nervous but like people would not let you be um

anything I mean that's up to you but they would never let you feel left out yeah I'm yeah I'm I think I'm going to for it next year to I'm

I'll have to flip a coin and to decide if I want to sign up for the lift hard live easy I think I'd really like to because I think my goal kind of in life, at least, is to compete one time, just to say I did, but I'd like to go there because it looks like a hell of a time. And that, to me, is almost more important just to make the memories doing it. So I would like that this way. Like, the meat's not guaranteed. Like, I don't,

I don't have any insider information, but like the meat's not guaranteed to keep going on. You know what I mean? Like, like, they might not do it for another 10 years. So, like, I don't want you to be like, ah, this isn't the year. And then next year, you're in the best shape of your life. You're ready to go. But you're basically in the same shape you are right now. And then there's not a meat. Like, you know what I mean? Like, oh, I would not just say, oh, next year, next year. Because there literally might not be a, like, life, life, life does exist and happens to all of us.

So life, uh, finds away. Indeed. Oh, yeah. I heard you're building your house. Sorry, Keith. You're good. Keep interrupting you. It's my bad.

I know you're building your house. Um, but, uh, do you have a gym in the house? And is it certified? Uh, I, but the progress of finishing the garage. gym because as we all know garage gyms are superior to basement gyms right key i have both so i guess i'm done but i'm more or less shut down for a while until it's spring but i did at our old house i had a gym thanks to covid and i got to say it was best thing ever um other than the motivation i didn't have any there half the time so i had to find motivation to stay consistent but

um in my new house working on it it's everything got moved in there here last week i finally set it everything up, but I haven't gotten everything actually put together, so to say, and still trying to get the heat source out there because that's one of the things they're waiting on still. But it is not certified yet. I felt like it could be sacrilege to have one of those and not actually have it up on the off chance that I never got finished. So maybe I'm just too anal about that. But once it's actually done and I'm lifting in there, my goal and plan is to actually get the one of the CTF. So. do you have a gym name uh so i've always called or actually i think my friend was the one that dubbed it

the church of iron um and it was uh just because we in our old house we used to live next to a church and it was far enough away we were we had a 30 acre chunk of land um but for some reason it still picked up on snapchat when he was there one day it still picked up the church there so he says The church is over there And then we're in here Worshiping for these gains You know And he's like the Church of Iron here

And I was like It just kind of stuck from there And that's what I've always called it And I had a buddy Make me a CNC laser cut sign This says Church of Iron And that's just kind of what's always stuck. That sounds awesome

I love it How how are you Patrick? 32 Nice That seems about the right age for Snapchat I guess I don't know I still I always chuckle

is like the only people I hear talk about fucking Snapchat are people from Minnesota or Aberdeen, it seems like, or South Dakota that is. It's so weird too because I've got my even my wife and I have three friends I think and we all keep the daily snap streaks too and they're going on like 3,000 days

or something and it's like there's absolutely zero point to it other than just like a check in daily to make sure we're alive almost so but it's like otherwise for the life of me I can't figure out why I still have Snapchat other than It's kind of fun to like something stupid happening and you want to send somebody a quick picture. For some reason, that's, even though it's just as fast to send a picture message through text,

it's just like to Snapchat to my P brain says, hey, this is faster. Let's do this quick. Nice. Well, we did get a few responses back from your survey, but how did you propose that to your friends and your family and all that? And how'd that go over? I sent it initially because I kind of heated the warning of finding people. to take it seriously and I felt like I have a lot of people I'd call friends that would know a lot enough about me but I figured in my head I had about 20 people figured out and I'm like well half

these people are probably going to say something stupid so I'm like I hear you guys say like oh stupid questions or stupid responses and I'm like I'm not going to burden them with that so I'm going to just appreciate that people that are going to try to take this seriously and then to get like none of them other than I think two or three people actually responded within the first week. And then I'm like, deep God. So I had to. Yeah, I had to keep I felt like a dick because I kept having to bug you, but I'm like, all right, dude, this is the list

of who submitted. And we're recording in like four days. And I've got like, I've got like three sentences submitted on your behalf so far. So what can we do to remedy that? I felt really bad. You're good, man. You guys take this very, like, and I respected. Like, you guys

take this seriously. You put a lot of effort into this. And I feel like it's really polished. So I want to make sure, like, I was like, come on guys. You know, I'm like, I'm asking so little of you guys right now. And I'm like, you can't even help me out. Now, it looked like a schmock. So I'm like, you're good, brother. You're good.

Yeah, full disclosure. And you know what? I can't speak for Keith. I'll speak for myself here. The notes are a jump off. The conversation is more important. Yeah. Right?

A lot of the time, half of what we get from the notes, I ignore. I have them open with me the entire time. I read them about maybe a day, maybe the day of, so that I can get like an idea of what we're going to talk about but barely do I ever unless it's one of those times where like there's a moment of silence

and I'm like Keith give you a second I'm going to go through the notes unless it's one of those times don't worry about the notes the notes are fantastic the notes it gives us the jump off but ultimately talking to you is more important

we've had some guests though that like without the notes like their responses are like 30s we've had like the shortest responses and no so like the notes are a good crutch, especially when it's someone we don't know anything about. And it's just like, do you sure you don't want to talk a little bit more? And, you know, expand on that, please?

That was my concern, too, because I was like, oh, God, like, I think I told Keith that right away. I was like, I just don't want to turn out like that Evan Cardone episode of Masonomics. And I was like, I don't know, I had to re-listen to that. I re-listen to that one when I was kind of jumping through the backlog. And I was like, dear, God, this has to be the, like, worst podcast I've ever heard just because his responses were, like, nah. And then it was like, all for followers.

And I was just like, holy God. And I was like, bravo for those guys for putting, they're tough at all with them for as long as he did. But I was like, my biggest fear was falling flat on my face. Now, you're done great, buddy. So, well, I mean, the other, I mean, we're still early. And we know, we don't know yet. But are you familiar with least fun, most fun?

So something you know a little bit about? Oh, yeah. I'm vaguely familiar. I would say. Do you want to explain it to your seven friends and family that submitted surveys for us and they're definitely going to listen? Hopefully. So, least fun, most fun is a game, totally original game that was created on this podcast

where the guest tries to explain a certain topic or topics and tell us which one is the least fun of those and which is the most fun of those. Nice. So I got one here that's trying to like be a little more silly goose with this. but if it doesn't land, then I'd actually have one that would be a valid one. So, at least fun, most fun. Burning down your house while actively being a firefighter. So that one actually, I wonder how many people put that because I think I put that.

Did that not happen? Because if that's not true, then I'll just pivot. But I didn't do it down actually. And I should preface to it wasn't on purpose or anything like that. And I was young. Obviously. this isn't to degrade from anybody who's experienced that in their life either because I went through it and I lost literally everything so I can relate but I sometimes when I tell the story people are like you're just so cold and heartless about this you know people really this is a really tragic event for a lot of people I'm like yes I went through it myself too so I do understand but I was in summer of seventh grade I think so I was 13 I want to say and fast forward just to jump ahead for the sake of explanation but I got on our local volunteer fire department when I was 24 or 5 so there's a gap in between those two

so I didn't burn my house down well being on our fire department or anything but yeah you can least fund most fun either or then it doesn't matter but I do like I get in the stories pretty good though though so I'm happy either way yeah the least yeah the least one probably was yeah burning it down because I had we just moved from my room downstairs into the room that inevitably burned down and I had everything in there. I had a big collection of sports cards, and I had my, remember like it was yesterday,

had my, my new to me, Nintendo DS on my bunk bed, and all of it went up in flames. And I was just like, I had no clothes to, you know, and people say,

all he had is a clothes on his back. I'm like, I literally only had the clothes on my back. And I didn't even have fair shoes. So it was a, it was a tough time. And I always joke. I said,

you know, fire prevention just came a few, two, a few years too early for me, I guess, because had I paid attention, none of this probably would have happened. But, um, yeah, everything came up. I would argue better on the, on the end of it. I guess everybody is alive. I saved my dog in the process. So, you know, I've got to take the Ws where you can. So, um, but most fun is, yeah, being on the, I shouldn't even say it's most fun because there's a lot of drama on it. And that's probably the part that's the most, uh, disheartening for me. But I would say most fun is being on the fire department.

so there's a lot of fun in the job itself that we get to do and there's a lot of you feel pretty rewarded after you do something so not burning on your house though like that's you're not rewarded by that part right yeah I'm just sorry I didn't I didn't mean to read I thought it the way it was worded I almost thought it was going to be a funny story and there's like there was just like a curtain that got on fire or something I didn't realize you lost your entire house that makes me feel really shitty but yeah we have do have a game we like to play now yeah Keith, least fun, most fun.

Reliving trauma on unpaid and underrated. Fuck, it's... We do it so often. There's only so many, like, there's only so many options. I mean, he had this extremely vast Instagram that I could deep dive and, like, see all these things.

Oh, yeah. That I could cherry-pick, to make at least fun, most fun. So it's like, I got to work with what I got, man. So, I would... In mind, I can dive in with the story of it. Because it is kind of funny as far as, like, knowing what I know now,

what I did during the house fire is like the total opposite. So I had like, I don't know if back in the 90s, they had those like goose neck lamps that could flex all over the place. And I had one of those and I had a bunk bed. And I was like, you know what? I need like a nightlight so I can see stuff. So I like wedged it underneath the top mattress. And my dumb ass, I left it on all day.

And then all of a sudden that night was about six or seven o'clock or something. And I smelled like burning garbage. And I was like, oh, it's probably. just the neighbors burning something, you know, and like, they're always weird like that. So because it was the middle of June, the windows are open on our house, and I, uh, it keeps kind of getting worse. It gets hazy in the house. I'm like, oh, God, you know, even there's smoke coming in. So I shut the windows and I'm like, oh, no, it's feel hazy. So I finally go downstairs and the lamp is smoldering on my mattress. And my dumb ass, I open up the window. I'm like,

there's problem number one. Yeah. And then, uh, all this oxygen in. This will help. Yeah. Let's sort of something like before the fires. out. So, and then I go and call my brother, and he's like, well, you don't ask, get the mattress outside. And I'm like, seventh grader. I'm small and weak. And this mattress is heavy, actually. It's an old box spring one for like the 80s. So I'm like, eh, I might not be able to do that. And so I'm like, you know what? It stinks in here. So I'm going to turn the fan on. I'll turn the fan on, I'll blow the smoke out. And I'm like, hindsight, knowing what I know now, I was like, dear God, I literally created the fire and intensified it. So, and by the time I got,

back downstairs from grabbing a fire extinguisher from the kitchen. I had fully engulfed the room and I watched all my stuff burned down in front of me and barely got out of it. Yeah, you're not fucking dead, dude. That's why your parents were probably happier that you're alive than fucking going back in the room with him was a lost cause. It's just, it's funny, I think, to the people that are familiar with, like, firefighting and how, how, what I did basically is, like, the exact, like, I just fueled that fire and

intensified it and did everything you shouldn't have done. so I'm like after I learned that and fire one and two classes I'm like oh my God I was like I'm the person they talk about yeah he wrote a book about me

that's good stuff well I'm sorry you seem like you took that in good spirits but I thought that was gonna the way it was I almost thought it was like a joke it is kind of because it no no like the way it was submitted

I was like oh this got to be a joke you didn't burn us off down you got to find the fun and trauma, I guess, but it was kind of funny because afterwards, the insurance adjusters, like, he pulled me aside and he was like, did you do this on purpose? And I was like, sir, I just lost my video games. I'm like, I did not do this on purpose. I'm not to convince you enough that I did not do this on purpose.

But, yeah. Yeah, yeah, we put the you back in trauma. So let's say you go to the Lift Hard, Live Easy. You're going to do your first meet. and you can have somebody there to hype you up. Who is that person? I honestly, there's only probably like one person I could pick. I don't lift with anybody.

And for the last years since she sold their house, I've lifted out of commercial gym. And I just, I enjoy lifting by myself. So it's hard to pick one person. But if I had to pick one, it'd probably be one of my best friends, Jake. He is just a all around,

just a goofball hype person. I mean, he'll find positive. a way to be positive in the worst of situations and he's the person when I I dabbled in lifting before I actually got into lifting seriously that would come with me to help me work out and stuff and he always was a type of hype person to say the dumbest shit just to get me fired up and it always worked so if I had to pick somebody it's going to have to be him dope yeah yeah he submitted some stuff so his name's in here yeah um one person did submit

an interesting response to your lifting history I am curious I don't know who it is because I can't see that from this angle but it says no I'm just finding out he lifts

who would that be I want to say probably Matt I shouldn't say his last name out of here but I'd have to say it's probably got to be him because he's the one that we talk a lot about family and stuff

and I probably never dove in he's one of those long distance friends. He used to work with me when I worked at a grocery store way back of the day and then we always kind of kept up after that but he's always lived at least a couple hours away and it probably

have to be him that doesn't know anything. But then at the same time I don't really talk to any of my friends about it because none of them lived and they're not interested in any of that stuff. So it's kind of, I don't celebrate to them like, hey, yeah, I just sit at PR and this and anything. Well, everybody

else had answers. It was just that one saying, no, I'm just finding out now that he lives. And that's hilarious is this questionnaire, yeah, uh, was the thing that did that. Yeah, did you bold that like that, like the, I did because I wanted to bring it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, so what got you into it other, uh, I hear what got you into it. And, uh, let's tell that story if you're comfortable with that. Again, reliving more trauma, please.

Yeah. Is this is submitted it? Or was this my answer? Or is this somebody else's? I suppose you don't know. No, it's the first answer on here. It might be yours as well. Look at them.

You can see if you go off. I'm not. No, it's from Danny. If it was the first one, well, we've deleted stuff though, too, so it's hard to say. Yeah.

There's a lot of duplicate stuff. That you left a relationship. Ah, yeah. So that is, yeah, that's basically I got my heart broke and at the time. And I thought it was the end of the world, basically. and I dove into a lot of drinking, and I thought I was like, yeah, this is just the good life. You know, it's party every weekend. And then I kind of just had like a self-realization one weekend.

Then I'm like, this is literally going nowhere. And I'm just a sloppy POS. And I don't, it was a YouTube video that I found of a guy that went through a similar. It was just a skit video, but it was like the same thing where the guy got dumped. And he was fat and sloppy and out of shape. And he started lifting. And then he dieted. It got in great shape.

and his life got better. He found somebody and got happy. And it was just kind of like a fun video that I watched, but then it kind of made me realize I'm just like, I'm just sulking in my own pity. So I was like, why not do something productive, like lift? And I started lifting,

and then I had a neighbor in the apartment complex I lived in at the time that was big into lifting too, bodybuilding stuff. And he got me into it. And that's what my, I would say, my official lifting journey started then, about 10 years ago.

Otherwise, outside of high school, I tried here and there. had no idea what I was doing. I mean, I thought bench pressing on a Smith machine was like, this is power lifting, and I do what I was doing. I was like, dead lifts are bad for your back. No, no.

That's what I was. When I got out of high school, I was like, yep, that's right. I won't do any of this stuff, but I'm going to buy every stupid supplement possible because this is going to help me.

And yeah, but my official one, I'd say, started 10 years ago, and it just turned into the, about the only hobby I have now in life. And I love, I can't imagine,

my life without it because it's just something I constantly do so consistently do I should say so and of course the end result is it isn't getting in shape and being fit that attracts a partner it's having consistency discipline and

a better version of yourself that allows you to be loved right? I would say my on that note my cousin always told me after that breakup actually probably some of the best words of wisdom I ever got was he told me he's like You shouldn't be looking for somebody right now because you're incomplete yourself.

He says, why are you trying to find somebody when you're incomplete and looking for them to complete you? You should be completing yourself and finding happiness and self-fulfillment before you find somebody. They should be the add-on to your completion instead of completing you. And he worded it much more eloquently than that, but it always kind of stuck with me from after that. so yes it's it's easier to be worthy of love than it is to seek it um that is my heavy thought

of the day nice uh bring some levity here so listeners that aren't driving do me a favor and over the next couple minutes or so periodic well i guess never mind you're this is audio only for you guys but um just i'm butcher i'm really having a rough day like and Paul floss could be the same voice like um and I just kind of registered that because like there's been a couple times here like me while on the zoom call like when he's talking I close my eyes and I'm like is that Paul or is that Patrick so anyone else how's that yeah he had the dentist yeah 100% of dentist I mean he isn't ironically isn't in the medical field but not a not a not a dentist um so sorry to kind of go off on that it was just uh I guess it's the uh you know the west

not the Midwest, the West West accent, if you will. I was curious, too, do I have a Minnesota accent like to show Fargo? I've never been told up. It's not that. I think it's just like the, your cadence and I think Nasly is not the right word, but like, I don't know, you and Paul just sound a lot. Like, your voices

are literally a lot of like, you don't, I haven't heard you necessarily say like the stereotypical, like, you know, what the Fargo is necessarily. I think it's just you to me you just like as someone i've i've talked to paul for hours you know collectively probably so it's just like you're that's the the voice i'm hearing in my head so not to take away for you it was just kind of funny um but yeah back to you so they and shrugged from a little bit of a cold but that might that honestly that could be it too could just like this plug but it's better than running because yeah yeah like set of sniffling all day i'll just be plugged up how many

uh how many fantasy football leagues you in uh i've got what am I'm three this year. Oh, wow. Usually just do two. My wife probably's getting me shit for doing it because she's just like, she always thinks it's a waste. You've spent $50 on this to play and blah. You'll be in three fantasy football leagues,

but you won't drive to Sioux Falls, man. That's wild. They, I just, it's so weird too because I'm like, I don't pay, have enough time to pay attention half the time. Yeah, I think one one's, one's just, one's the perfect amount. Anything more than one, it's just like, then you're, You don't even know who to root for, and it just takes all the fun.

I think it would just take the fun out of it because it's... I love it for some reason, but I consistently, too, I end up finishing, like, usually top three every year. And it's like, you have to be 10 or 12-man leagues. But I just like it because it's like, I don't know, it's, I love football, and it's just fun to do it. So it's cheap entertainment, I guess, sometimes. So, but, yeah. Did we touch on what you do for a living or as much as little as you want to talk about that? we didn't. I'm actually at where I work right now because it was the best place to go where the kids aren't running wild. And there's heat. Yeah, there's consistent heat. So I fix cars for a living. I do, I guess the correct term used to be auto body repairer, but I think they've gotten more sophisticated. I think they call it like collision repair technician. But basically if you hit something with your car, I can fix it.

you know, I like cars. I've always been around cars, but I've been here for 14 or 15 years. And then I also worked at a grocery store for a better part of seven years doing the same time and just did both jobs full time. But I ended up liking this one better because as Joey was talking about with retail, it is, I just,

there's no light at the end of the tunnel it ever feels like. Was that the old high V or something else? Super One food is a mid-west specialty. So, I love that place, though. It was a great place to work. It's just, yeah, with retail, it's so sucking. But it taught me a lot of valuable tricks, I guess.

Like, you can be the most vulgar person in every other word is the F word, but the second a customer comes around, you can just like a light switch flip, and then you're just nice, perfect vocabulary and articulating everything, and you don't say a single curse for it anymore. But, yeah, I fix cars for living, and I always like to joke when I'll be sitting, I can sit on Discord or cruise through social media, and I'm literally, it's because I'm watching paint dry, so the paint type spray is water-based, so I have to sit there and blow dry it in our paint booth, and I just literally sit there and wait for it to flash dry, and then I go

on to the next coat, and that's a lot of my job during the day, so, and I'm like, but usually I got to be doing something, you know, by myself, and I put earbuds in, so it's, I like doing it, but yeah, that is my job. Have you blinged out any of your home gym equipment at your work, like at your paint booth? Do you have like a color theme? It sounds like you have the ability. Oh, yeah, you could. Like you could bring in your rock or something and paint it with that shiny coat.

It's not powder coat, but still, like, you could, I'm sure you could, like, put enough heavy-duty layers and, like, do some tricks in the trade. Well, I thought about, yeah, I've sprayed some of my stuff just straight black, just because I was, like, black's easy and it looks good. But I did think about that after I saw, I think, based on Brandon's gym, just seeing pictures of the all-white. I was like, God, white looks really clean. And if I ever had the time to do it, my goal was to paint it all. One of my favorite colors is the tri-stage white. So it's like a white, but it's got the pearl and the metallic effect to it.

So they call it a tri-stage. And I want to do that because then it's really one of one, because powder coat can't do that. They can't do tri-stages like that where it has a shift effect to it. Or at least to my knowledge, I don't know. though I should guess don't call me on that. But I thought about bringing it all off. I asked, I reached out because I saw the one they did a drink spotter.

I was really curious. I was like, is that paint paint or just powder coke? I'm like, it looked really good. Like high gloss and usually that's kind of the thing with powder coat. It doesn't have like a really like mirror finish half the time. So that's what kind of drives me away from it. But yeah, one day I'd like to paint my stuff and make it look really cool. But for now, you have one, you have like a small,

you have like one small piece that you could do in like uh you know like a couple hours here and there or something like they like don't like chip away at it kind of thing like like start small and be like oh this literally like changes the whole like I like using this piece now or it makes a smile when I walk into my gym so granted you're building house you had a lot going on but yeah I was going to start with a drink spotter and that'd be cool but and tell people you know if you pay shipping I'll paint it for free for whatever color I'm spraying at the day I mean there's always different cool colors that I'm painting every week, so it's something I could throw in quick, and somebody pays for the shipping and whatnot.

I can do it for them, but I thought about doing that anyways. If you get a good orange anytime soon, let me know, and I'll have Tanner ship, I'll buy a drink spotter, ship it to you, and then just deal with the shipping, but it's got to be like a nice bright orange. Oh, yeah, I can do any color you can dream of, I guess. So that's the beauty of our system anyways. I would kill for a venty black gym. I don't think you can do that

No, does that be black So like blacker than black Yeah Or like the light is absorbed Into your gym equipment Walking, yeah I need people walking into my wrecks more than they already do Yeah

Cursell fucking kill himself If the shit was more invisible Oh geez yeah that would be my ideal color I used to actually work in Oh I'm going back 20 years now I worked in a place where we did car parts But my job was to clean the booth So, like, everything, the ceiling was coated in grease and the walls were coated in grease.

Our job was to clean up the dirt to make sure there was no dirt in the paint. Yeah, it gets to be pretty technical. Like, our booths be upended about six years ago, and it was $150,000 to do just the paint booth. And at the time, it was the fanciest you could get as far as state-sidewise. But it is tremendous benefits to what we can do with our. jobs now. I mean, it's, it's always kind of funny when we can do a job in one day. We start out that morning and we get it done that day and it's painting something and you get a customer and it's like, is it safe to take? And I'm like, yeah, we bake the paint on it. Like this bad boy

gets up, you know, slap the side of it. And I said, this bad boy gets up. And I cook your paint for 20 minutes and it's safe to go after that. So yeah. Oh, yeah. I remember those days. All right. Geez, we're about 8.30. Do you want to move on to some games? Do we have some other stuff to touch on there? We can do some games and then circle back if we see anything that's chatty about.

Do you want to hit them with FMK? Oh, am I back on that? Oh, yeah. I forgot that I did much. Let me have. Yeah, I went through the notes and made my Mount Rushmore. Yeah, sold. I'm back on FMK.

Love it. um big patrick do you want to explain to the listeners what fmk is here real quick some people might not be overly familiar uh i know that for a fact because like six out of the seven people said i don't know nothing or like dash don't know what this is yeah like i get i don't even i think we get that surprisingly a lot well for specific for fmk but and nate even has like it's it's like descriptive like there's a thing that says this is this is like top three things or whatever yeah i had my wife asked that too and i she's like that was like so 15 years ago and you know like high school years i'm like i remember back then saying the

fmk you know and so i was like yeah to hear it come back again it was but i've listened to it for so long now it just seems like a common term but yeah for for the record like we still do bow ride impressions over here like and make austin powers references and stuff like that everything that was funny in high school is still funny today yeah we are timeless. Indeed. All right. So, yep.

It would be, I guess, plug your ears. Fuck, marry and kill. And you choose between three things that you would prefer to fuck or friend.

However, I guess you would like to marry and then if you like to kill them or disregard them. So that is FMK. Nice.

Well, I got a good one submitted. It was probably from you. I'm not sure. but let's go with Minnesota professional sports teams. So we're going to hit you with the Minnesota Vikings, the Minnesota Timberwolves, and the Minnesota Twins. For anyone not familiar, that is the NFL team, the NBA team, and the MLB team of Minnesota.

Yeah, so I picked those three because I love the sports in Minnesota. And I also hate them at the same time because it's a source of disappointment. And maybe it's the same way for all sports teams, I guess. but when you're a Cleveland's Brown fan, it's easy to constantly stay disappointed. But the Vikings just, yeah, this year I was so hopeful and I've been let down so far.

But I would have to probably start with Kill. It's probably going to have to be the twins because with MLB, I feel like they have no salary cap. So all you have to do is have money and he can be competitive, it seems like. And the poll odds that own the team almost sold it. And then they back,

out of the sale and they leave the dumpster fire and they just keep adding fuel to the fire to make it a bigger dumpster fire. So I, it's so disappointing. I'm not a, like Tanner said last I think is, yeah, episode 5-1 with how boring the World Series is and how boring baseball is. I'm like, I have to agree baseball is incredibly boring, but I still like watching sports just when they're on and I'm like, twins are fun to watch sometimes, but overwhelmingly I'm going to have to kill them because they just, yeah, the owners will never. ever get it together until they sell the team. I would fuck the Timberwolves, but it's a hard one to say that I would fuck

them because I'd also like to marry them, because they're the only ones I think that are getting better with time right now. But they're fun to watch, but they're also prone to the same kind of disappointing features that the Vikings have where they got a lot of star players and you're feeling really hopeful and you're like, this is our year. and then you get let down in the end again and final one I'd marry the Vikings just because for some reason I think football

being my favorite sport of the professional ones and the Vikings have just been a constant thing I've always paid attention to the most and I always make a point with our family that usually whenever the Vikings are playing we're going to dedicate some time around it to watch the game but I could really say sometimes I like to kill them too because like this year you know we had all the hope

and we got a rookie quarterback finally starting that everybody was glazing and he's been another letdown. So I was like, it's just, it's frustrating because it's like, you hate to sound like a Dallas Cowboys fan, but we really thought this was our year,

but it again is not our year, I don't think. And yeah, we're back in the basement of the NFC North and somehow the Detroit Lions are still competing or competitive. So that's sports talk. Love it.

all right i guess we'll go mount rushmore um mount rushmore of w wwee divas slash women's wrestlers god thank you i wonder that must been jake maybe uh i would have to go for sure tristratus um and this isn't based off of probably skill set but at the same time i felt like she was kind of a trailblazer to her own credit back in the day uh stacy kebler and Tori Wilson they both got to be up there so I don't know how much of a trail they paved for the ladies back in the day but they were definitely entertaining to watch so not just to look at of course but definitely still some of those cat fight matches were we're classic to watch especially when you're like a 10 year old kid watching them and you're just like oh my god they're

just ripping each other by the hair this is the best and um I think the last one that I'd probably I think I'm going to have to go with Ashley Massaro. I think she passed away, if I remember correctly. I really liked her back in the day, though, and it was kind of odd because I felt like she was going to, maybe I'm wrong too, because it's been so long and say it's almost been 20 years. But I felt like she was rising up in her popularity at the time, and she was just like a, it wasn't just a piece of meat to look at, so to speak.

She actually could wrestle. And I used to think, when the women's wrestling came kind of was rising up here these last like 15 years I would say in the beginning of it I kind of was hesitant to like take it seriously almost but I think they've done a really good job of marketing as more serious like these women are competing to wrestle not just for somebody to look at and I'm like I'm for it I like it a lot but I would say those four and then for some reason just because I find her entertaining and my wife always watched their show but the alien head it would have to be Nikki Bella, so

that show, the Bella, I don't remember what I was called even, but it was both the Bella Girl sisters show that they had on. My wife and I, I was hooked on it for some reason, so we always watch that one together. Yeah, women's wrestling, definitely for a minute, was getting

very talent-oriented, but in WWE, at least, it's gone back to kind of, the bikini model is getting pushed thing. other people are doing it way better AWTNA

they're doing it way better there is I don't know if you know the story of Ashley and I'm not going to tell it on this podcast maybe during the after show we'll talk about what happened there

and why her push was cancelled you'll have to yeah we'll have to dive into that later because I'm not sure I just I think I knew a few things they had mentioned as far as why she did what she did

Otherwise, as far as her short and career, I'm not familiar. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about that later. Keith, do you want an affiliate ad? I just, I got one, there's one thing submitted. We shouldn't touch on it, but I have to ask. Oh, damn it. I have to. All right, so someone, I'm just going to read the whole sentence,

and if it's too bad, Nate can cut it. But I think it's funny, and I got to ask. Okay, so someone submitted when he was getting intimate with a past girlfriend, or her mother tried to interrupt them by referring. to them, to the then-girlfriend by a past girlfriend's name. Like, that's the most random fucking submitted thing I might have ever read in my life. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's my brother, I bet.

Yeah, I'll briefly touch on it because it's probably not one of those stories that is at all relevant to this podcast. But I had a girl over that I met, and I was still living at home because I think I had just graduated high school. and I'm not close with my mom whatsoever, and that's a whole other trauma dump for another day. Oh, unpaid or underrated mothers. No, sorry. She came banging on my door, and I didn't answer, and we're sitting there frozen, like, what the hell do we do?

And she calls this girl out by my ex-girlfriend's name. We hadn't probably broken up back during high school for all I remember. and I was like, oh, my God. And thankfully, she laughed. And I was like, okay, I can laugh too. But that's the story, I think he's, I assume. That's great. That is very funny. Okay.

I'm glad that was too traumatic. Just a picture of this, if you don't mind, because I want to make it a little more traumatic. Yeah. Does your mom have a very thick Minnesota accent? You know, I, yeah, I think so. I feel like, I honestly haven't talked to her in person in probably almost 15 years. Okay. And that's fair. Trust me, I get that. I just am picturing the banging on the door and being like, oh, what you doing in there? Yeah. She's even further up north. And she's up by where she's from is like what we refer to in Minnesota as the boonies.

she's heard of north where it's like what's like not only where's the cell phone service it's more of like what's a cell phone and yeah she her accent's a little more thick but for sure has the accent and like if that's not a boner killer alone yeah speaking on accents it'd be hilarious to my father-in-law he's they're only 20 minutes away from her my wife and I live now and he's he's a dairy farmer and he's just never left the farm basically so he doesn't socialize much but his I don't even know if it's an accent but he talks so he'll like you know boomhouser from king of the hill yeah it's like that but like that's funny and you know and you when you first meet him

you don't understand a single word he says but after you get to kind of understand it listen to him and talk to him then it's just like it's crystal clear it's just another english language and you're just like people that aren't familiar like what the hell did this guy just say and you're there translating yeah all right i'm just gonna round this out with a little affiliate read here so cam at barbell rescue is always trying to you know get his uh get your shaft in his barbell rescue brush clean that up right for you take all that chalk just out home gym con it's good it'll be here sooner than you think go and get your tickets that code unpaid to help you save a little money on there, get your hotel booked, come hang out with Tommy and Tanner.

They're getting a booth, supposedly. That's what the rumor is. They're on the map. It'd be really cool. Have that become the new crew meetup maybe versus the Arnold. But what on the Arnold announcement was coming up soon? Freedom Fitness Equipment, Ashton's always getting some good deals on flooring out there. If you need some commercial home gym flooring and Grant, who hopefully will be home to

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I won't, Patrick's already explained the other few games, so I'll take this one over. It's been a minute, I think, since I've said it. So unpaid or underrated, very original game that Joey and I came up with all-buyer spells, zero inspiration whatsoever. The general gist is we're going to give him up to six different topic, and he is going to specifically say

the individual topic is either unpaid, which would be overrated, because no wants to be unpaid or it is underrated because I mean it's pretty good so unpaid equals not so good underrated pretty good Big Patrick are you ready I am ready

right unpaid or underrated let's go with the one that was submitted 19 times not sure just no I'm just kidding I literally thought I've deleted I thought I deleted it like 10 times that's the funny thing

um let's go flying unpaid or underrated get on an airplane unpaid i i die i flown twice in my life and i hate flying i cannot do it and both times i had to get severely intoxicated which is not ideal when you have to drive the rental car so oh yeah um but i uh yeah flying is not for me i'm just terrified of it. So I, uh, yeah, it's severely unpaid. Do you know where you can travel to without flying? Stop. All right. Unpaid or underrated tennis, specifically seventh grade tennis team. Underrated. So, uh, tennis in seventh grade was the highlight of my tennis career probably because that's when I realized I was ambidextrious and I was absolutely thrilled to

learn that because in tennis it made my abilities I mean if you're even vaguely familiar with tennis you always have a dominant hand and that's your forehand well then with your if the ball comes to your side that's not your dominant side you have to it's called the backhand and it has way less accuracy and you don't have the same strength with your back hand well when you have two forehand it makes for a hell of a lot more abilities for you so seventh grades where I found out and I really owned in on that skill and then tennis in general actually I get a lot of shit for it

because around here baseball was the big spring sport for our high school and I always played tennis I just thought baseball back of the day it was boring and still kind of is but tennis is just a I don't know I've always liked it and it's fun to watch it's fast-paced enough

but it's something you can kind of always do so I've yeah underrated good answer specifically what was submitted and it makes it even funnier that you're, you know, talking about how you were good with both hands and you still let the ball hit you right in the face and got called Hotbox for a bit? Botox.

Boat, oh, yeah, I read that wrong, Botox. Yeah, it was the first day on the face. Who convinced me to, like, try practice or whatever that year, but I did. And then there was a guy older than me by a couple years, just wallop the ball, hit me right in the cheek, and I was just full swollen. That would hurt. He's a little bit Botox, and it stuck throughout my whole tense career. That's actually funny.

That's good stuff. I even knew it was Botox. I don't know why mouth parted that one out wrong. Let's see. Unpaid or underrated Taco Bell. Oh, Taco Bell is really underrated. And people who say Taco Bell is unpaid have the weak stomachs and weak genetics. And small calves.

Yes. Most importantly, small calves. But I'll give them, I guess, Taco Bell for like the last up until about six months ago was kind of getting unpaid because I felt like they really destroyed their menu and there was nothing good anymore. But the memories, the lifelong memories of Taco Bell created for my friends and I, is something that we'll never forget. We have spent thousands of dollars, probably hundreds of thousands of miles driving to Taco Bell because the nearest one to us is 45 minutes away. Oh, wow. I couldn't.

Yeah. Wow. Wow. What I ever drive 45 minutes for Taco Bell? I don't, I mean, maybe as like a 16 year old that he's had nothing to do. But like that was us. That was a 16 year old until probably once I always started having kids, then it was, I got to get my kids convinced that Taco Bell is actually good. My wife doesn't really like it. So I'm like, kids, this is good. And I promise you you're going to enjoy it. But yeah, Taco Bell, we, oh my God, we spent thousands of dollars there throughout her high school years even. And we used to do it. I used to do it. Just for the fun of it, I would find somebody to drive us there after work. And I worked at the grocery store. I'd give you $20, drive us Taco Bell, so we can drink at the back. And you'd be surprised how many times we did that. So, like, it was the most fun nights for our life.

That's a real bad deal. And like, even if you're buying them, their food, because that's $20 for an hour and a half of their time. Yeah, but back then. Yeah, true. Yeah. Time. Most people didn't care about time.

This was 11 o'clock at night. I'm like, we should all be in bed. But here we are driving a Taco Bell. I did Chipotle for dinner. I think I'm actually going to actually go eat the leftovers when we're done here in a little bit. That'd be pretty good. But your only choices in our town for fast food is we have Subway, McDonald's, Burger King, and Dairy Queen. And then, of course, the whole the grill, pizza ranch.

But that's only open until 9 o'clock at night. And when you were open until 8 o'clock in Aberdeen from what I heard. I think that was because of it was Saturday. It was definitely like 755. They were like, nope, closed. yeah ours is open to mine with the they're not open on sundays they use that to observe the day but the chiquelay of pizza ranch that's what yeah i would actually yeah they're the pizza version of chick filet or just chick delay the chicken sandwich version of pizza ranch because i don't know

which one came first but um the chicken or the pizza which came first i don't know why you're worried about being on here but you've done nothing but carry on great conversation so i'll just give you some good at like you're not my wife i don't we haven't i literally haven't had to pull anything out of you so you're doing great yeah no talk about severely underrated um nice like said if you don't like it and uh i mean teach their own but you have weak stomach probably that's your biggest complaint that's all i got for you now we're going to stick to the fast food thing um unpaid or underrated the octa whopper oh i i was assuming that would come up but i was just like how would they phase it in there just waiting for it eh yeah

So we had a friend that worked at Burger King, and it was right next door to the grocery store I worked at. And for lunch one day, I know it wasn't, it was, or for our, I should say break, because we had two 15-minute breaks for eight hours. And it was, I took my 15-minute break. And utilizing that time, my buddy had already went over there. And he told our other buddy that worked at Burger King, make the biggest whopper you can do. And he said something like, he had to stop at eight because that's the only amount of patties he had ready. in time or something like that through the drive-thru. So he comes back with this monstrosity.

And I think that's a picture I'll probably have to give Keith for like the thumbnail because my defeat picture, I finished it, so it's not a defeat. But I guess I look defeated, but it's probably a prime thumbnail picture. But it was a, I mean, you know, you just imagine eight wopper patties. And then they put like two tiny little tomato slices and some lettuce on the top. And we've polished that off in under 15 minutes. And then I had a gallon of water to just. cheese, was it, you have some

couple slices of cheese in there? There's no cheese on a whopper, buddy. Well, you can add cheese to it. I've never, I won't, I won't. Yeah, add cheese to the eight patties. Yeah, it helps slide down. The best part was the grease on the sandwich that had dripped off on the floor had solidified by the time I finished.

Oh, no. Yeah. I couldn't eat eight wover patties. Yeah, and then I just felt dead inside and I had the meat sweats is what I learned was a thing. I was after halfway through, I was just sweating so bad. And I'm like, holy God.

And my buddy was like, he's like, yeah, you got the meat sweats, dude. And I was like, does that a thing? And he's like, well, look, it's good. It is now. Oh, my God. Channeling your inner junk candy. I would say it's underrated, though. Oh, would you do it again, would you?

I would actually. I haven't gotten to do any food challenges. And I don't even want to say that I'm like a big eater. but there's like a lot of times right i eat and then i eat and i get done and i'm like you're like you're god i just ate enough for like a family of six and i'm like you know like and then you're you're feeling like you're about to die you're so bloated you're just like god why do i do this to myself but uh-huh yeah and then and then you have a kid as well three kids actually so you eat you eat until you hate yourself and then your kids go i don't want my nuggets and you and i both know

you're going. I'm going to eat those nuggets, aren't I? Yeah. I almost get to the point if we ever eat out that I'm like, I don't even have to order myself anything because I could get full enough off of their leftovers. So if we deserve good food. What am I having tonight?

Chicken nuggets, mac and cheese. What, yeah. Unpaid or underrated, pumpkin spice lattes. Underrated. I will die on that hill. Yeah, buddy. As soon as it hits it, it's like fall. is my favorite season or favorite season because it's like it's sweater weather baby and it's like

once that starts getting released into the stores and you're just like it's coming you know winter is coming which isn't so fun but fall is coming and that is fun and it's like uh plus it tastes good usually and what got me started on it was one of my cousins way back in the day we went to like another cousin's wedding and she's like i got to stop at Starbucks and she's like do you want anything it's like I don't know, let's try pumpkin spice latte. So I got it and I was like, like my world has been opened up. I was like, this is awesome.

So like pumpkin spice is, it's what I jam usually. But it's one of those things, almost like egg dog where it's, if I have it outside of the season, it's not good anymore and I don't like it. But I'm like, as long as it's in the seasonal time, then I'm like, it's the best thing ever.

Have you had the eggnog latte? I haven't. I've had a lot of eggnog stuff, but I don't think it's a gnaug latte. It was one of those like, I think my wife was working at Starbucks or she had just finished working at Starbucks and I tried the eggnog latte and was like, God, I love this. I don't even like eggnog, but something about the frothing and the heating and adding the espresso, I was just like, this is all I ever want is eggnog lattes for all of winter. Is that only at Starbucks? Yeah, only at Starbucks. I've never had it anywhere else. I don't anybody else has ever even tried it.

Okay. Starbees is the nearest ones in the same town as Taco Bell, so it's 45 minutes wait for me. So we only have... Don't drive out there for it because they haven't had it for a while. Yeah. All right. Unpaid or underrated Metallica.

Underrated. And I will say it not as a fanboy of like, oh, just because they're the most popular out of the big four, you know, that's the only reason why you like them. It's more of like, I uh who's the big four the big four thrash metal you're not familiar joey no i know i know i would love to hear who it is so big four is uh it's slayer anthrax megadeth and metallica those are the big four thrash metal back of the day um okay so out of

the big four it's like one can use their own brain i'm like metallica is obviously the most popular and i was like if you just kind of you know people always used to argue like Megadeth made Metallic, you know, Dave was staying, and I'm like, he wrote a couple songs on Kill Em All and, you know, some of his lyrics and other stuff carried over to his songs like Ride the Lightning album. And, but I'm like, but it wasn't like, I like Megadeth too, but listening to his voice is just, I'm like, I'm sorry, but I was doing it at work the other day too. Somebody was just like, I can't handle that. And then I was just wandering through the warehouse going, hello me, it's me.

I just saw, I'm like, Atalica, by far is it's like, I don't know, I grew up, I think I got it, it was like five or six years old. My first band, like I said, a taste of rock music that I listened to is Creed. And I had a cousin that was just, Creed, you got to listen to this,

you know, Creed is the greatest band of all time already. And I think it was Human Clay, it was the album. And I remember listening to it was like, I had to be at like five, six years old or something like that. And I was just like, this is the greatest thing ever. You know, this is metal music, but I'm like, I don't know anything then. Well, then I remember watching on, it was like VH1 or whatever, they used to have music videos. And they had Enter Sandman on there for Metallica.

And I remember watching that. I was just like, oh, my God, this is the greatest thing ever. I'm like, how does life go better than this for music? And I just remember watching it every chance I got. Well, then it's like, Black Album is a great. album of Metallica, but I'm like, like, I always tell, I joke when I hear any song off of Ride the Lightning of Metallica, I'll tell, like, ask somebody, do you know what this is? And they know what? And like, this is the greatest song off the greatest

album of all time. I'm like, Ride the Lightning on Ride the Lightning. And, you know, there's like, okay, dude, that's cool. But I'm like, Metallica is just such a, like, I don't know, everybody argues to, like, early albums are way better. Once they hit the black album, it sucks. But I'm like, I get their argument. They went commercial. and but I was like it also helped increase their you know created a bigger I'm looking for loss of words here I guess but they got more people to listen to them and then they were able to continue on making more music and like whether or not you liked it or not is kind of irrelevant because I'm like they still continue to make more and different music where back to my point here why they're underrated is that the other bands of that same big four era or any other metal bands I mean there's plenty of them that kind of just stuck to the same formula. though, like Slayer, like, no offense to them, I'd like Slayer a lot too, but you could put on 10 of their songs, and I bet by outside of like one or two of them, you're like, I'm not really sure what that song is. Like, I've heard it a bunch of times, but I have no idea what the title is.

And it's like, Metallica is almost, most of their songs are like, unmistakable. You're like, you hear the certain riff or you hear the certain verse, and you're like, yeah, that's this song and that's this song. And I don't know, I, big fan. So maybe I'm, maybe I am just a fan boy, but I've been a fan for all my life and they're my favorite band of all time so underrated. I don't disagree at all and I think if you're going to talk

about the big four that you mentioned yeah, 100% and anybody that says everything after the black album sucked yeah right. Fuel was an incredible song we all like everybody jams out to that song when it comes on. Shut up, you liar. That song was amazing.

the live orchestra at the San Francisco Symphony if you haven't listened to those men and I'm like those songs like No Leaf Clover was a song from that it wasn't a new one it was a new one that they did with the orchestra it's one that came out new and I'm like they're still putting out

phenomenal music with an orchestra team and I'm like St. Anger gets crumbed out a lot too and I can definitely see why. I was about to bring it up I was about to say I literally was too but we're still talking about that snare to this day and anybody that hears that annoying snare knows that that's from saying anger so as much and you know what still great songs frantic is a good song some kind of monster's a good song yes that's one of my hype songs you listen to that intro and you're just like

you know you're ready to go that burn and a i think the last two albums i would say like i don't really have much off of ever since true helo joined i i would say that i i'm not overly familiar with them despite knowing who Trujillo was before he joined. But, like, no, I'm with you on that one. 100%. The only thing I don't agree with that you said is that Human Clay is the best Creed album. No, my own prison, my own prison is clearly the defining album by Creed.

As much as it's not like the one that everybody talks about, that album was like released right after Grunge. It's considered like the first post-grunge rock album. and that's the one I found Creed on as a kid. I must have been 16 or 17 and was just like, this is rock music now. This is fantastic. But yeah,

my own prison is definitely a way better off of them than human clay. I actually have to rescind what I said. I agree actually that my own prison, that was the one because it came out in 97s. I think age-wise, that's where it jives up with me. And I had to look that up. But funnily enough, too, on the topic of Creed, actually my youngest kid, his name is Creed.

So not because we love- Is your other kid named Taco Bell? Do you French Taco Bell? No, we actually, the other two are kind of unique in their own, too, I guess. But Creed was the one that I always jokingly tell people, though, that I'm like, yeah, we named them after the band and it's always like a 50-50 if people get it because some of them are like they know creed and they're just like be serious and i'm like no and other people ask they're like did you name them after the paulo creed like the movie and okay yeah i got to be honest i'm like that's where the inspiration came from because i was like when my wife and i were when he was in the womb

and we're kind of coming up with names and she'd come up with all the pumpkin spice latte white girl names, you know, like Sawyer and Hudson and not to... Yeah, Caden. What is it? It's like Jaden, Braden, and O'Kiden. Yeah. So, and we saw that, I think it was Creed 3 that was coming out. We saw the name Creed and I was just like, I can be down with that.

So it stuck and I'm like, he's a little shithead, but he's a great little two-year-old, two-and-a-half-year-old kid that's getting a concussion every other week, it seems like. But good kid and named after a great man. So, yeah. All right, so we, how much bingo did we hit? We hit wrestling. We hit, we hit all. Yeah.

Keith yawned. He's half asleep now. I am tired. Don't think I yawned. Sanchez will have to weigh in on that. Is you still in here, Matt? The next day on, buddy. Oh, he is?

Let me know. All right. Well, Big Patrick, do you have anything for us? You did pass on Peter. underrated as it is. Sanchez, he posts in the discord. Yeah, I know. I don't. I, there's like there's shit from an hour ago. Okay, so hold on. So Sanchez, let me say this. If he comes to the lift, hard, live easy, I will do an octa whopper challenge with him. Oh, there you go.

No noticeable yawn, he also says. But that's not as important as the competition just got thrown down. The Octa Wopper Challenge at Liptard-Live-Easy. That would actually be the, that would be a cool thing at Tanner's house. Like, uh, like, even if Taco about, or I imagine Burger King's like, no, we won't make that, but you might just have to, you know, someone might just have to like

shell out 50 bucks and get like five Woppers and marry them together and shit. But, uh, that could be interesting. I would be, I'd probably try it, I guess. Get the meat slats again. Probably don't do it before you compete. Vom it.

That'd be the trick of, yeah, that would not be a good thing. Power living's on Friday. How much fat would that be? All of it. It's all of it. It's a lot. Power Living Saturday. Oh, is it?

Yeah. It's a Strongman Friday, Power Living Saturday. Sounds like a Saturday night event. I don't have much, I guess, to ask you guys. I always, I felt like it's the last couple weeks I would try to think of things to ask. But more of just a props to you guys for doing what you do. I don't tell the sister podcast, but I do look forward to this podcast more than theirs now. Oh, thank you.

It's nice listening to other people as everybody, you know, like they say, like-minded people, but it's also just kind of more enjoyable to listen to the kind of personal stories of people that, you know, whether it's through struggles and trauma that they also have. But it's more relatable and more enjoyable to me, I guess, to hear people like that, because it's, I just like listening to that better, I guess, than some strong man that's, you know, done it all and has gigantic lifts that make me look like a, you know, the most operating lifter that ever existed.

So not that that's a problem because I still really enjoy listening to it. But the other thing I guess I'll add, too, to Keith specifically, that I also enjoy when you crumb on Massonomics for when they have their sales, and it's always smaller medium t-shirts. Someone's got to say it, and I'm glad it was you. I mean, they got to, he's got to clear out the inventory, so it is, I, we get it. It's just, we like, uh, if you don't make fun of your friends, you're going to make fun of, so. Yeah, that's what I have to tell people, I'm like, when you, when we're a shit talking to you to your face, I'm like, that's when you're part of the gang.

And it's like, if you're not getting harassed by us, then you're probably not part of that friend's circle, I guess. Did you see the douchebag on, was it on John Hacks video that Tanner did the screenshot of that was telling him, like, uh, well, the, Oh, what was, um, oh, are you going to start a new map for this? I quit listening to your podcast, you fucking stuff. Whatever the fuck he said. It was paraphrasing, but it was like, he shit on him all kinds of. And then Tanner, he hit him with the whole, like, what was it? Uh, something the extent of.

I'm going to sell you a new attitude because yours is a bummer. Yes, that was, like, that's just something Tanner would say. I love it. And I think that guy either deleted his comment or blocked me because I can't see anything on it because I got it had to delete it. And that, although the negative. of ones, I went and found that one dude that was just like, oh, sir,

you guys are what's wrong with power lifting and blah, blah, blah, and I went and found the dude and the dude looks like a thumb. I tagged power Dwyer, because I don't want to call him a cunt myself. It's like I, I don't want to, like, shame people for how

they look, but, like, if you're going to go on the internet and say mean things, lock your account so that we know you're a piece of shit or like be better than the things that you're trying to tell other people to be better at that's all I guess

I guess that's just me like if I go on somebody's page and I'm like yo your deadlift shit my deadlift better be better than that person's and I better have evidence of it somewhere not just a selfie of me with my double chin like or look like my fish yeah

I don't know like yeah it's always locked accounts when it's not not locked accounts. It's weirdos. Yeah. But we really did appreciate hearing that, Patrick. I, you know, I can't, uh, it's never a bad day when you people are tooting your horn for you. So, you know, yes, thank you. Basically, uh, you know,

gives me, doesn't make me pause anymore. Like, because like the whole, like, you know, I asked you some pretty traumatic things and, you know, in stride, because someone's going to get value out of that. Um, we're not out here to hurt anyone's feelings or, but, you know, opening up every now and then to a couple hundred people that you don't know yet. It's kind of, you know, an interesting thing that I think, you know, and you get to come to the Lifter Live Easy in 2026 confirmed, you know, meet some buddies. There you go. Oh, I like that there's

zero reason not to come, except for all the reasons you made up. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Oh, my house burned down when I was 13 and then I have another house and then the house doesn't have heat and yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go. Get to the lift, hard, live easy. Yeah, that's the challenge. Lift or don't lift. Just come hang out. Like, I mean,

take Friday off, if you can swing, having the wife, watch the kids for a couple nights. If, you know, bring in that many, bring in the whole family is a chore, I'm sure. So just get it to where you have someone

that can kind of cover you at home for a couple of days and come hang out with us. It's, it's, you know, going to cost you a couple hundred bucks for a hotel room an Airbnb. I think the worst thing in the world, even if you literally just come for, like, a day. Like, if that's, that's all you can swing to get away from the family and you don't, you know, you can't justify the competition. Like, just plan on coming for at least a day. Like, get up

Friday morning, come down, watch Strongman, stay for Tanner's party and then literally drive home and get home at like one in the morning. Like, it's not that. That's just a long, it's just like driving a taco bell. It's not that big of a deal. I think I, yeah, that I guess it was just, that was the biggest hump to get over is just like I said like the well this should help this is going to get you know a couple followers ideally because I you know somebody's going to find you on Instagram after listening to this and you're going to grow your crew network and you're going to get people DM in you and you know post a little more lifting though uh get a little more stories with some lifts in it people let you know you have a gym uh just I think the more

you put into crew the more you get out of it uh it sounds like you've been consuming a lot but this is a big step to putting putting the work in. So I think people get to know you more. And you know, you might get some people DM in you and just meeting some new friends. That's the whole point of this. Is the friends we made along the way? Because didn't someone like I don't, not to harp on the fire, but like didn't someone else have a fire in their house as a child?

Like that was like a like someone definitely burned their house down. It was it was definitely Patrick's like brother. And he's somehow been on this podcast. No, someone for sure's house burnt down or the bay there was some basement fire. I don't remember because like the whole time you were talking I swear I've heard some of this story before but all right well I think we've gone on enough for the listeners

I think they have got their money's worth go buy your you and you hoodies if you haven't yet Big Patrick where do you find yet you can find me on Instagram at Karks C-A-R-K-H-Z and follow me on

Discord on I think it's Big Patrick so and then that should be it I guess nice big joy we're at uh joey underscore molasco m lec lec zk o and that's about it nice we got the instagram unpaid underrated podcast website unpaid internpodcast.com where there is an extensive amount of information if you're listening to this and you want to find some guests to go you know listen to go in there type their name in if you know who they are their episode number comes right up we got a 130 plus in the backlog if you're new to this and you want to get to know people

start wherever, you know, just as long as you track it. Like one of those apps will tell you what episodes you listen to and what you haven't. But I know we are in a time investment. We appreciate anyone that puts the time in to listen to us. I think it's great for everybody. We also got the YouTube. There's definitely some people watching over there. I see those views and comments every week.

I am Keith Honeycutt 73 on Instagram. More importantly, go follow my orange gym, though no wine seller. Until then, see you next Tuesday. Yeah. I have one good Masonomics story too that kind of makes it come full circle about

I think it was cum or crum Huh? Come or crumb? Yeah I think it was around 2021 I want to say Winter of 21 anyways

I found a marketplace A lat pull down for sale About an hour and a half away from me It's the one time he got in that you fuck Took the family down with us All the trailer and took my brother's truck at the time I didn't have a truck,

but is this guy Nick Tolutki, and I didn't think anything of it. No idea who this guy was. He just looked like kind of like a pretty boy, but get down there, a really nice house, and I go to back the trailer end, and it got right to the edge of the ditch, and it was like a real shallow ditch,

but it was covered in, like, snow and ice, and it slid and whipped around and hit the box side on my brother's truck, and it crushed it, so I was like, oh, my God, this is embarrassing, and the guy saw it all, and he's just kind of like, you know, is everything okay? I was like, yeah, I just suck it back in up a trailer, I guess,

and just wrecked my brother's box on his truck, but neither here nor there. I was like, I'm still here to pick up the lat tower. So get in there, and he's got this big garage with probably like 16 foot tall ceilings, and it's just loaded with stuff in there. And I'm looking around and he's got a bunch of like IPF posters up and banners and everything. And it's like, this is like Tokyo and somewhere like Russia. I can't remember which specific area um but a bunch of different places and i get to kind of talking to him and he's like yeah i'm actually like a seven time world champion powerlifter and he was like in my opinion it was like john hack before john hack um he was that good like pound for pound and his weight like

his lifts are huge for his size and everything and then uh i'm kind of looking this guy up and here i see then he was on an episode of massanomics and i go watch the video yeah and he's in person they went, I think they went to his place in St. Cloud because I think it's even... Oh, didn't they do a tour or something? I was like the first, like, in-person or the first knot at Tyler's basement video. Yeah.

And I was like, no shit. And I'm like, in here underneath my sweater as wearing like a bench heavy shirt or something. That would have literally... Never once talked about massonomics with him, but I'm like, comes full circle. Yeah. Hong Kong.