Unpaid And Underrated - 133 : Pupperettes (ft. Big Braden from Meat & Muscles BBQ)

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Braden from Meat & Muscles BBQ. They dive right into great topics like Crü Cards, crabbing, meat, converting to strongman, bees, and The Arnold. Links Ü&Ü Hoodie (https://www.sellmytees.com/festrengthlab/store/product/u-u) Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @meatandmuscles (https://www.instagram.com/meatandmuscles/) On Instagram @meatandmusclesbbq (https://www.instagram.com/meatandmusclesbbq/) Online At meatandmusclesbbq.com (https://www.meatandmusclesbbq.com/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Braden.

And welcome back to episode 180 of the unpaid and underrated podcast. I'm one of your host, Big Keith, joined as always here by Big Joey. Hello, I'm as always. As always, and this week we have special guest, Big Braden, Mr. Meat and Mussels. How are you doing, buddy? I'm doing good. How are you all doing? We are wonderful. Braden, what are you drinking over there tonight, buddy?

I got what is this it's either a miller light or a natty light this one is a miller light there you go natty light you're a 40 year old man still drinking natty light what's that like I don't think I've had a net

I don't think I've had a natty let I don't I've definitely never had one of my 40s because I'm only like I don't think I've had a natty in my 30s maybe oh you're missing out you're missing out I've had in my 20s but like my early 20s I like cheap beer

so uh that's fair yeah and a lot of my friends I drink mostly Miller Lite, but most of my friends like Natty Light, too. So I just buy a combination of both. Nice. Nice. Anything special there, Joey?

Nope. Just a nice big glass of water. Nice. I do like a water. I've got a waterloo. It's actually hitting pretty good this week because I don't think I've had any sparkling water. I didn't pack any when I went out of town.

So I'm just coming back from like a four-day work trip. So first sparkling water I've had is damn good. What do we got? Waterloo, I don't know, maroon waterloo, whatever that one is. I'm not opening up. It's in Tanner's fucking coozy. Oh, yeah. The purple coozy.

Just purple can and a purple coozy. It's pretty good. Hogan, what are you drinking? Oh, where did I put it? I have the very tail end of a Welch's grape ghost. Nice. Sir, it is bedtime. It's my.

Yeah, what is it? Is that from like last? Is it as long as I finish it by 7 p.m., which I didn't. It should be fine. So I'm risking it with this lash. I actually have one of those waiting for me at work tomorrow. Nice. I did, uh, I walked into my gym today in my old, my garage gym because I was going to do the final leaf cleanup because I, uh, it's the first time I've been home that it hasn't been like wet. And I just wanted to get all the leaves, uh, bagged up with the, the, the, the pushmower. And I had like, I saw there was a monster can in my drink spotter out

there. And I was like, oh, what's the chance there's like a good swig left in that? And there was just like a solid mouthful still left in it. And I was like, Oh, it was just like the perfect amount of just like that flick. I really love the flavor of white monster. It was just that nice little treat to go, you know, push a lawnmower for a half hour. So it worked out pretty good. I'm, I got a, I want a garage gym competition thing. That would be the shirt I'm wearing, but I didn't get a chance to wash it.

But it was a, it's so pretend that I'm wearing a surbrose shirt, but it's like a, it's like the discreet logo, if you will. So it's like their same logo with like the three heads. But it's like a black shirt with like dark gray print. So, yeah, just not super fucking obnoxious, I guess. Like, I just, like, I like Serr versus products, but their logo and everything, it's just so gaudy that, uh, that blacked out shirt is, I really am a fan of it. So I'm kind of, I wish they made a grip shirt in that logo, could buy that or in that color scheme. I'd buy the shit out of that.

Uh, I'm just wearing, technically it's my wife's, but I bought it. So it's mine. It's just a bucked up supplement shirt. It's a hoodie because it's cold in this year. I was. What about you, Brandon? What's your rocking there, buddy? I got my benching 315 shirt on. Oh, hell yeah.

One of my older nassanomic shirts, and I'm actually kind of reminiscing on the days when I was benching 315. Who was it in Discord today that said, oh, it was Big Bryce. Big Bryce said he was working with a woman that said she used to bench 300 in high school until she hurt her shoulder. And I'm just like, like, okay, sure you did, ma'am. Sure you did. I mean, maybe. I mean, she was a South Dakota woman. It's very possible that she might have been benching 300 in high school.

But I don't know. That's a classic story. Oh, yeah. I used to have been four plates back in high school. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. You know, everybody had an uncle that used to do that when they were like 15 before, you know, they got hurt.

So we got the big announcement that a massonomics is not going to, what is it? They're not going to have a booth at the Arnold. they're not guy i butchered that how did it how did tanner say it or's uh when it comes to the arnold we are not going to have a booth correct yeah well done and then did you see what you see mofo's edit where he just like took out the part about the booth so it's just like it was like seven clips of then just saying they weren't going they weren't going they weren't going that was well played mofo but yeah i don't know uh what do you think about that hogan is someone that's going to go to the arnold anyway because it's in your backyard little disappointed or you know no big deal

I feel in some ways it, because the way that they are selling their presence, I think it will end up being better for the crew that go. I think though there will be less direct opportunity to just see them if you're doing massonomics as like a side quest in your trip to Arnold, if you're going, is that being the main focus. I think crew will have an opportunity to go do what they want to do together. And then when there is organized meetups, we'll then group together for that. So I bet it'll have more of a similar feel to last year's home gym con, which I thought was great. So I think it'll be quite like that. I don't know if that will then entice as many people to do the Arnold anymore, but if I

wasn't literally 15 minutes from it, I don't know how enticed I would be to do the Arnold after getting that checkmark. Yeah, so someone that's six hours away, I don't know if I'm going to go this year. this coming year. I just, because right now, too, I kind of have that, like, feather in my cab of like, oh, I went to the last year they had a booth. Like, I'm not going to beat that. Like, and that's, like, the Eagle would be awesome. Like, the dinner would be great hanging out. But, like, it's a long-ass day and, like, not having a home base to go back to for me, for me personally, because, like, I get in, I guess if I went, I'd have to, I for sure would have

to buy Strongman tickets. Like, if I bought Strongman tickets and that was, like, 80% of my day, and then the crew was, like, the 20% of the day, for sure. But, like, after, the last couple like last year's experience was like 100% there for crew kind of thing like I don't know but don't deter that from anyone going like if you're even thinking about going still go it'll be fun you'll hang out with crew but like you're gonna have to really pay attention to when the meetups are to hang out with people because it's not like home gym con where you're going to spot a massonomics dude every corner 30 times and every minute there's going to be tens of thousands of people there to kind of wade through but I don't know

it's good for them it's definitely smart financially they said they raised it another 20% or something or 15% I think he said like that's astronomical for yeah they're not gonna like because what are they gonna they're gonna fucking sell $50 t-shirts a piece like to to break even like the no it's I don't I think they did the right thing it's just you know yeah yeah you know you never forget your first Arnold that's you know even when I went actually I think I have it here uh 2024 or did I go in 2023 as well I mean met you in 23. So it would have been 23. There it is right here in my hand. March 2 to 5th, 2023. Um, you know, I went there and that was, I think, my first time meeting Tanner and Tommy and

they knew who I was, you know, just from Instagram and stuff like that. But like, it was such a social event. I got to go and meet all of the people I only know online. You know, got to meet the North Fitness guys, got to see Huck Finn, got to see all of these guys that I've only ever seen online. No, actually, that was the first time I met Huck Finn. I didn't even know who he was. I didn't and follow him till after that. Him and I just hit it off. It was so much fun. And then the next year,

it was like a little different. And then seeing what you guys went through last year and like how majorly different it is, like over three years, it looked like it just wasn't, if I didn't need to pick up my jacket, I don't even think I'd be thinking of going. And I should be a master's. I think you almost have to go just to get your jacket.

If not, you're going to like, it's cheaper to go to fucking Columbus and it is to Aberdeen or, uh, True false. See, they don't tell you that on the Hall of Fame journey is that even after you complete it, you still have to go to one of those events again. Yeah, because check the website, me and you are the same location currently.

But yeah, I know you definitely, you chipped me out, but I think Tanner is pretty strict about not mailing him out. I'm sure he would make an exception every now and then if you had to, if like someone legit couldn't travel for some reason. But like, I don't think why they're still hosting stuff and doing stuff. I don't think they're mailing out jackets. No, I do think a Canada tour is coming, so maybe I'll just, if it's drivable distance, make my way there. But actually, I will be a master's completer before you. That's fine. I'll never be a master's completer because they literally won't, they won't give us another win.

Like, they'll never give, like, I don't know. They were hinted at competitions a while ago, too. I haven't seen, you know, hide or tail of those either. So let's see what's going on with that. But I don't know. And that wasn't a, it kind of sounded like I was like, man, But yeah, when you're like, we're at the same location, I'm like, yeah, I'm going to eat that out. I only have like 100 episodes.

I know. Yeah, we'll see if you're listening. I don't know. I haven't heard here back on, until I almost fell asleep. Okay. I gave one on 125 because it was the first time they had a, oh, it's a title topic. Was Tyler still on then or Tyler did Tyler dip out then by then? Yeah, so they're probably a little more, a little more consumable than I bet.

Yeah, it was the first time they had Segway music for a title topic. Nice. It was just Tommy holding his phone up to the microphone. Wait, which, which, which button is this, Tommy? All right, though, that was a good, I think we're good on that one. So, anybody get a chance to watch Big Brandon's tour this week? I started it. It's a long one, it's, it's good.

It's hard not to watch Brandon's stuff. Braden, did you, are you familiar with their, their YouTube channel, all the goodies are putting on out there? I'm familiar with it, but I haven't been able to, like, keep up with it. yeah i'm pretty bad at keeping up with a lot of stuff well it's you could be worse could be bad at getting up so that's that's yeah no but yeah this week's episode was a big big big big brandon diamond camel big gym tour out there in rhode island it was a good one you know it's just the boys shooting the shit it's like three dudes and friends with just talking for an hour like it's just fun like they're so

easy to watch those um they're just they're so easy to watch um well it's I think it's so cool what they're doing too like they're going out to home gyms like I know they went out to yours Keith and like it seems like a really cool thing like they're just traveling and seeing all of you guys and it's cool I wish I

I still had a home gym that they could come to yeah I think one of the first things I noticed was Brandon naming or dropping the even influencers can get influenced I wonder if that was a reference to us

yeah i remember what he was something about oh it was a bar that he had bought from discord maybe i can't remember exactly what it was i do i did catch that line i just can't remember it was the specific reference but is the flooring uh yeah yeah yeah that's correct good call uh but yeah good episode never ever i mean i could i could literally watch it for hours i think they are going to do a follow up with the uh the the vultras because it was funny because like you can tell like it's not that they don't put a lot of effort into their planning but it's like it's like a 10 minutes or less kind of it's more like a five minute i mean well that's like on site they might have like they might outline shit on their drive which i'm sure they do but like like from my experience

when they were here we just like shot the shit for 10 minutes and kind of just rolled right into it and you could tell with with brandon it was similar to that i'm sure because like throughout the episode you can see tanner's wheels moving of like maybe we'll do a second video maybe we won't so just kind of like seeing that just live as it goes and just like like not editing stuff like that out it's just cool to me like i like how they do it just literally we're going to do it live like I can't imagine Tommy has to edit that much of anything. He just adds a couple clips in of like some like the the B roll and stuff, but he's not like cutting dead spots out.

I kind of hope he does one because on mine there was like a second where I paused for like 11 seconds trying to think of a word and they're just looking at me. And I'm just like fucking deer in headlines like my head is like. Tanner. Don't cut that. Put the Jeopardy music over it. Or like crickets chirping. Tanner doesn't edit and Tommy doesn't listen.

so I think I'm safe. So if I say it to Tanner, maybe he'll get it to tell me. But yeah. Don't edit it. Just put like crickets with all of you sitting in there staring at him. We do need to follow up with Tommy, though, and see if he listened to the game show episode. Because he specifically said in Discord, I need to listen to that one. Or maybe on the podcast, he said it, I think.

And I was just like, oh, Tommy, you know. And they released the big surprise today. Yes. That was, I think we were sitting on that for, I went back and looked. Yeah, I went and looked at our text thread. It was September 28th or something. Tanner sent us that. I hated sitting on that.

Cool beans. We didn't want to do stuff. And then he texted me, I woke up to the text. So he must have been up at 5 or 4 a.m. texting me. Just like, hey, any like cool things we can bring up. And that's when I texted you. And I was like, I think it's happening.

Ah, okay. That's what you were referencing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I knew that trip was coming. And I was actually proud of some of the guys too. Because like, like, well, carp specifically. I'm surprised carp didn't say anything because usually he's, you know,

I talk to him pretty regularly, so we kind of, I knew that they were going to, like they obviously would have had to hit up carp in anyone else in Kentucky area, but I didn't want to say anything to spoil it for him in case it was something they were just going to kind of shoehorn in depending on Seamus, because I think that was the whole point of the trip was to get big Seamus and then go from there. But hopefully that gets some more eyes on them. I'm really optimistic. I don't, I mean, I'm assuming he's fucking three, three million YouTube or three million people on Instagram, but yeah, how many of those? Are there like a thousand people in that channel? they're going to follow the hip masses.

Like, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know how their algorithm works and how it relates to YouTube follows versus Instagram follows and getting people assimilated over to your content. So I'll give you just kind of some insight as to like why Seamus matters to me. And it's because he runs a pro, um, a YouTube channel called Celtic warrior workouts. And what he would do is he would go out with his wrestling buddies and just do their workout with them. Oh, cool. Now, when I first got into working out, I didn't know what I was doing. so I watched that every time it was released pick things I liked and that's how I got into fitness

and that's how eventually how I got into heavy lifting was through the Celtic warrior workouts so if he's going to do if he can do that for somebody like me he's obviously done it for other wrestling fans so if those wrestling fans then realize how cool this side of it is and it's not all skulls and in going to war with the bar and all that shit like there's a whole other aspect of this war yeah where you can go and have fun and live Burn their shirts. We're going into battle. Yeah.

So hopefully maybe that brings, you know, Seamus something and brings them something. I wonder how it came up, because I was wondering if Seamus knows about it. About, no, it was Brian Copleman. Yeah. So, like, who, were they like, do you know Seamus?

Can we get into Seamus? Or was it like, hey, Seamus actually watches your stuff? I didn't. I think, oh, I think, well, I'm trying to think. think what, I'm trying to think of the timeline if I had already, no, because Tanner texted us about it, like, the week after they were here, so I didn't actually get to talk to him in person about it, but I'd have to go back and look, I could have swore through a text thread. It was solely Brian Koppelman, like, just said, hey, we know this dude. Let's, uh, you know.

Yeah, I just, I'm wondering if Shamis knew who they were before they got there. Oh, like, if maybe he watches, like, maybe he listens. That's what I'm wondering. Like, maybe Brian was like. Yeah, unless he just saw Brian post about it and then he, like, followed Brian. Like, I, I, I, I don't know. I think that'd be a really cool story. Maybe we'll find out when it's released. Yeah, yeah. I'm excited. That'll be a good one.

I think that's going to leap. That'll be another gym tour that leaps for Ogham me. Yeah. Seamus is, we don't know it, but he's recent inomics the whole time. Hogan, you're back. Keith, you're frozen. Hogan, why don't you talk to us about what you try to talk to us about? Okay.

Yeah, me and Keith will just trade computer problems. All right. So what I've been posting about is the, start of crew cards I traced back in the discord when these were first brought up and I think there's even an older instance that I didn't see but I think I remember making note about eight months ago nine months ago and I think and asking about it I got the beautiful thing from either Joey or Keith that that's a great idea do it don't include us if you'll do all the work sounds great and so eventually yeah yeah

Yeah, yeah, which I completely, I empathize with after now doing it. And, yeah, cool stuff is not easy. No, no, no, no, not at all. So just to introduce anybody who doesn't know what they are, it's just a trading card of people in the crew. The basis for what got decided as a crew card is order of appearance on the unpaid and underrated podcast. and so I go through the log on the website there's a plug for the website to check that out

and identify who came on when and that's the order of your card I'm doing them in sets of year and so this is year one of the 52 people and that was a nice clean number 52 weeks 52 people were on the you and you and year one and so of the 52 I messaged everybody in some capacity. I sent a couple reminders. The whole idea not to be a burden on anybody or be annoying, but just to give everybody a chance if they want to do it, here's your opportunity. And then I created those into from their submissions.

None of the information on it is stuff that I picked. It's solely stuff they provided and then created that into a trading card. The way that these are organized are based off of its their type of lift. and so there are powerlifter cards there's strong men cards there's bodybuilder cards crossfit cards Olympic weightlifting cards high land cards and then silly goose cards each one has a corresponding color so there's a spot for everybody uh truly there's three spots available yeah and everything you've got a sign color based on powerlifting type things like red blue green yellow all that stuff and I try to pick colors that

sense. So it's very fun. There's a lot of Easter eggs in the cards, and so I'm curious to see what people will find. I'll leave those as secrets for people to uncover. And so by natural selection, some people just submitted stuff that really promoted something cool that I hid in the card in some capacity. So a little bit of creativity in there for people to find. The idea of these moving forward is I'm going to do physical runs of them. I have right here the first physical run of card so here is I'm going to do my hand on it

here's Joey's card the back of the card that pops and then I think I got Keith over here which there's a secret to his card he got an orange card so that's a little Easter egg for you right

it's a sneak piece man after my own heart yeah right I know I had to do something for you yeah and then there's some other cards here I got the side and they're an uncut version so this is what they look like before they get cut for people or i guess for you all to see so did now i know you were talking about hand cutting those you didn't get one of those uh like old school teacher paper cutter things yet i bet you can get a

cheap one on amazon for like 20 bucks so Nicole is a teacher so guess what i'm that has to have access to all the teacher things uh nice so she just brings her already has one right now or something exactly she brings the lizard and a paper cutter home every weekend Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, I got to be careful which one I use on the cards, but yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With the piece with the mass and omar cards that came out, I did check in with Tainer on it. So we're all in good, good blood with the older sister podcast.

I mean, I wish he had checked in with you. I mean, they fucking stole your idea with the shit. Well, isn't that what they do all the time? Yeah, I mean, that's, they take everything from her. everybody we're unpaid and underrated and that's okay yeah yeah exactly oh actually i saw home gym hub post them out rushmore um i think i saw question yeah like excuse oh yeah of influencers or something and then i was like i don't like how to how it's like home gym hub was like hmm how can we make joey pissed off let's steal his idea but make it about fitness influencers and

i'm like yeah both of those things will go well with me I've seen a lot of, there's, there's some Strongman Facebook groups that have been doing Mount Rushmore of Strongman. And it's just like, I feel like that's been going on for several weeks. But I know, but that's not funny. That's true. We got to pretend we came up with it. So what's the, what's the plan for distribution or how people can acquire these or like, you know, how's, what's your, what's your thought process on all this going forward at Big Hogan? So there's a couple, you know, I don't final, but the current idea that I have every right to change.

at any point is that druthers my all my druthers in my card druthers uh the current plan and this is almost committed uh incentive to go to crew falls i will be attempting to bring as many packs so these are not just going to be cards they're going to be in packs that you can open and have random chance and different cards are going to have different chance values so they have an artificial rarity that I will decide. Very fair. And everyone who goes, I'm going to try to make sure that everybody gets at least one pack who goes moving forward.

That is the current way of distribution, is different types of crew or massonomics events. I'm going to try to have packs present for distribution. That's the current way to kind of keep them incentivized for people who are most involved and also more chances to get additional cards for collectability. That's my biggest hope is that this can be something of collection and potentially even having actual trades that where people could get duplicates to then have something to trade for.

Very cool. So I haven't decided yet how many cards in a pack or anything like that, but that piece will be worked out by the time we get to crew falls. That's awesome, man. We love the initiative and, you know, there's like zero incentive other than just You love Masonomics, you love crew, you love hanging out with the homies. Like, this is awesome. I wish more people put in the work like you did, my friend.

This is very, very dope, and I can't wait to get my hands on some. Yeah. And for other rounds, and I do kind of want to give a little bit of a note to people listening for year two, things of note that I've learned in the cards and things that you'll see in the cards. If you're wanting a card, when I send you a DM, please respond. I'll give you a few weeks, but try to get back to me within a couple weeks. Because once I start printing, it's very disruptive if I have to go back and fix something after starting printing. So there's kind of a cutoff.

So please, if I message you within a couple weeks, get back to me and have insert looking for photos that there's plenty of room for me to crop. The style that I went with the cards makes it to where cropping it is needed. And so if I have to end up distorting the image a little bit to make it fit the aspect ratio, I will do that. There are a couple cards that are so distorted that it's fun. So I hope whoever got that enjoys the fact that they have a rare card and how distorted it is. Nate is going to love seeing those because every fucking week I hear this guy sent me the worst picture. And then sometimes I'm like, yeah, sure they did. And then this week we looked at one and I was like, my God, did they take that with a fucking telescope?

It's so far away. And like, by the time you crop it out, it's just a fucking. potato with a with a him on the shirt and I'm like okay so Nate feels your pain Hogan so and that's to the end of it just I want people to have fun I want it to be enjoyable nothing about this is where it's overly serious or anything like that so even the details I asked for in the card as far as questions I'll try to streamline those because I think I was a little wordy in my first request but ultimately I want people to be happy with these and my intent is that there's no oh why is it done this way or

So please let me know if there's anything that I could do that make them better. I'm happy to make accommodations to just make this the best crew experience possible. And I have a question. So you're doing this all out of your own pocket and everything, right? You're not charging anything or doing anything like that. You're just doing it for the love of the game, basically. Yeah, nothing charged here. I did announce, yeah, it is quite costly.

So I am doing... I would assume, yeah. Yeah, I have an Etsy storefront and I'm not opening it to request yet, but also I would do DM requests. It actually would save everybody a little money because Etsy takes a cut of doing custom cards for the individual. And so I'm doing some mock with Noe-Hose as a trial

with doing... He's submitted me some action shots from a powerlifting meet. I'm going to create those into like baseball. baseball style cards with like stats on the back and send those back to him and so that'll be a fucking really good idea i might yeah i might that's awesome backlog every meet i've ever done and just send you like 100 bucks and be like here's 10 meets fucking i want a card for every because i have a i probably have a picture from every meet and i know open power living to get out all my stats like that would be such a cool way to display your powerlifting like that's an idea like a little

baseball card for your own thing that's awesome i like that that's really cool that's the way I'm going to recoup is leaning into that and of course if people just want to send a buck or two just message me directly and if you're that interested I'm you know I'm not at the point yet of taking just straight up donations we'll see how popular this is because if it's people really want them I want people to get them I have a bit of a mental cap on what I'm willing to pour out of pocket to make it happen that's smart we'll we'll balance every involved and that's why I said I have every right to change any piece of this. I might change my mind on how I feel at some point. But if anybody's interested in customs for individual cards or things like that, I don't really know how the license, so the reason why I'm definitely not charging for these. I'm not dealing with licensing issues. That was a bigger pain of the butt that I wouldn't even get into. I think on an individual basis, I don't have to deal with any of that. I think that's okay. I think that people have the rights to the photos if they're submitting

them because they'll have paid for the rights of the photos. No, yeah, because even I sent you one from Nick. Actually, I'm not sure. I think I'd have to almost go back and like, I mean, each photographer is different, but I think some of them like do have, this is not for reproducts, but I mean, what are they going to do? It's a fucking... Yeah,

on the individual basis, that's the, yeah, that's your discretion. That's why it's on an individual basis. If someone wants an additional card, uh, you're on your level of you're doing your research on it, that's appropriate. And please do it to save me any potential problems on the other end of it.

Yeah, we're already supporting Gluck's lawsuit. We don't want to support Hogan's lawsuit. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, I'm overly cautious on stuff like that, and I've learned because I've been doing a lot of research into this. Most people just don't care. They just take risks like that, and I'm just not interested in doing that. No, that's smart.

Yeah. But that's the whole piece of it. There might be still some other developments, but that's all stuff I'll put on my personal Instagram. I appreciate the time to be able to kind of not only promote the cards and get people aware of them, but also a chance to promote a side thing to help fund it as well. So thank you all so much for let me include that piece. And then Hogan, for any newer listeners or anyone that's not familiar with, they're familiar

with you. Where are they going to find you at, buddy? You can find me at World's Strongest Psychologist on Instagram. All right. And that is Mr. Hogan gaggle. Yeah, that's right. You know, world renowned doctor and strong man and card maker now. Well, boys, I think we got to, let's do a very, very quick rate last week's episode.

I don't, you know, I'm going to go ahead and give it a five out of five. Tommy hasn't seen it. Go ahead, Braden. Did you happen to listen to this week's episode? I did not listen to this week's episode. I listened to an older one today. Well, that works. If you had to rate that one, five out of five, what do we think you'd give it? Oh, I would have given it a five out of five.

It was, um... That's what we like to hear. trying to think it was uh megan the i i don't want to just say the blind girl but oh you listen to ours oh no okay okay so we're we're talking about oh you're talking about yeah never mind i mess that up then no you're good we do not edit anything out here unless there's no i didn't think so i was just listening no i was listening to a couple of your guys today just because that's all the matters i was coming on well five out of five megan the quarter horses that's all that will, you know, that's works for me.

Yeah, absolutely. I did listen, even though it was released late. We'll give it five out of five. Also, Tommy hasn't seen it because what has he seen? I think that that's going to be a shorter list. Oh, what did I have to do? There was something, shit, it'll come to me. There was a, I already made the reference as has Tommy seen 100 movies and it was kind

of mixed results on that, but there was a number today. Oh, it was, it was barbells. So Brandon said he's owned over 200. barbells in his time. So that's the new number. Has Brandon own more barbells than Tommy has seen? So the new cap is 200 and I don't think there's a world like Tommy's probably seen 100 movies. I don't think there's a world that Tommy's seen 200 movies though. Like there's just I don't think

it's and like watching a movie like at a party for 10 minutes doesn't count as watching a movie. Like he hasn't seen a lot of these movies. I just I don't think he's seen 200 movies and I'll stand by that from the way he talks about media consuming. I don't think he's seen 200 movies in his lifetime. But that is about all we have time for general topics because, you know, I think we're just right on schedule. Joey, any affiliates?

Or actually, Hogan, anything you want to tell us about Obsidian Plate Snacks or Beltfed? You know, you have personal experience with all those. Do you want to talk them up a little bit if you're familiar? Yeah, sure. I just got two banners from plate snacks and they are so high quality. They also came without any creases in them. I don't know if people bought banners from anybody else. They're always as like creases on them.

So they did a tremendous job in shipping. Yeah, you want to roll those, not fold them for sure. They do a great job. They're very high quality. They even, I had like a request with it to fix something and they fixed it. It was awesome. If you want to absolutely get hype, of course, let's say ammonia.

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He was in the first 50, that's, or 52, that's, like, it's, it's wild sometimes I think back of like, because I've been, I've been trying to, in our stories, either on people's birthdays or, I think, like, on carp, you know, posted this picture. But when I'm highlighting crew that have been on guests, I've been trying to throw their episode on just because there's so many newer crew that, like, weren't around two years ago that I want to get people like to where you don't have an excuse to click the link and listen to this episode or at least know that, hey, this guy does have an episode. I'm going to go listen to it kind of thing. But like all these episodes that I keep showing up that I'm like posting links to, they're like from early 20, 23. And I'm just like, that's so fucking long ago. So hey, kind of side side tantrum there.

But it's just like, it's just kind of reflecting back on how long this has been going on and how fuck. one we're still having. I don't know. It's just very cool. I know you said a bunch of words, but there was dogs on the screen. Oh. You missed.

You saw that? Yeah. There's dogs. There's dogs. There's dogs. Yeah. I had my two boys. I think I met them.

They just, they ran back out. But yeah, I had my two boys, Tito and Sam. Well, thanks, Hogan,

for joining us. I understand you're going to dip out. Don't forget to use code unpaid at all of our sponsors. answers. And again, thanks, Hogan. Appreciate you, Brian. I'll have to bother you on how I can get my hands on some of those. Oh, I didn't mean, I forgot to add that. That's one more piece. If you submitted for a card, I will be getting out to you to send you your card.

Like, everybody who's submitted will get their card for sure. So I did forget to mention that. And other people will get my card. Evan, it's through packs. Yeah. yeah that's that and so if it's packs i actually really hope people get other people's card so it incentivizes more trading i think that i love that idea most fun all right now everybody that's awesome we'll see you on crew falls in two weeks the week and a half we don't know two weeks yeah wait for it let's hope the planes work uh i think the government's working again fingers crossed you're good hopefully all right brother uh big brayden did you want to hit us with that messanomic

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Yeah, buddy. I'm going to grab a water and I'll be back in a second while you dial them up. All right. Big Braden, is that you, buddy? You there? We got you coming in. Oh, I'm here. Welcome. Welcome to the unpaid and underrated podcast. A podcast by crew for crew. First question here, you know, what's your name? Who are you? Where are we going to find you at on Instagram, all that? Yeah. Braden? Well, Braden Floor. On Instagram, I got two different, two different sites or names. Meat and Muscles and Meat and Muscles barbecue is my personal one. The Meat and Muscles Barbecue is my beef jerky website. Yeah. Awesome. Well, one of our favorite questions I ask is just, you know, kind of give you the floor. How did you find Massonomics? Why are you here? Why are you supporting member? How did you find? them all that. So I was actually thinking about that today.

I first heard of Massonomics. I don't know how many years ago it was, but they were on an episode of the Powercast with Mark Bell. And I know Jim McDee was still on there. I don't think Silent Mike was on there anymore, but I'm pretty sure that Massanomics was on an episode of that, and I first heard of them then.

And I looked at their website. and actually ended up buying a bunch of shirts from them. Good stuff. What we like? Yeah, and then, you know, started following them on Instagram and all of that stuff. That's awesome. Now, is there one shirt that you've seen that you've went to go, though, because obviously they do a lot of limited, it's all drops.

You know, they order a couple hundred shirts and sell them out, and then kind of maybe buy that shirt again five years later. So what's that one shirt that you're like, fuck, I want to buy that and it's never available? Actually, the one that I'm wearing right now, because I bought it a long time ago. And then once they came back out with it again, I bought it again because I had cut the sleeves off of it

and worn through it. It smelled like shit. And then it had to. That's a fair answer. Yeah, they came back out with it again. So I was like, I got to buy that one again. And that's the Benchon 315 for all our lives.

Yes. We are audio only. I know we're doing a video chat, but nobody wants to see my face. nobody probably wants to see my face either so don't worry about that I don't know what you guys are talking about I'm handsome you are handsome as hell did you let your hair was your hair grown out a little bit in that picture you posted a couple days ago like or did you did you did you did you did you previous episode you had mentioned letting your hair grow out yeah yeah maybe it was just the angle or it was a shadow but I thought you had a skull you you have okay you do have a skull yeah yeah it's already starting to bother me no like you want to take it down yeah yeah it's already starting to bother me is that a an everyday thing?

No, it's every couple of days because I have a balder. And I've been shaving my head for, I want to say, nine years or ten years. And now that I have a job that I don't have to talk to customers, I'm not as invested as looking good. So I haven't trimmed my beard in months. It's starting to piss me off too. So we're going to see how long and I can commit to this. But I think the hair will be gone sooner rather than later.

Yeah. But yeah, my mom. mustache is in my mouth constantly. Oh, that's the worst part about it, the mustache getting into the mouth. Can't eat sandwiches, can't drink out of cans. Like, it's just, it's a nightmare. Constant napkins and wet wipes. Yep.

A little Braden, do you have a, are you familiar with the Hall of Fame? Do you have any idea how many check marks you have on that little card? So I am familiar with the Hall of Fame, and I have no idea how many check marks I have. It's probably none. Well, no, you've, I can guarantee you, you've got to. at least two because it's being on the mass being on the unpaid underrated podcast check and then going to the lift hard live easy check i've done that well you're the one that you bought oh go ahead uh you bought at least 10 items off the website you think oh absolutely well it's 10 separate

orders but you know probably close enough i'm sure i mean i'm sure so my question is is that since you've become a discord member or or i think it's all i'd say it's all time uh Okay, yeah. Yeah, because some of us are buying stuff before Discord existed. Yeah. Yeah, it's 100% all time. And then what else? Maybe, Mom, I don't think you might, you might not have two years by now because

you were at, you were at the 20203, Lifford Live Easy, weren't you? You were at year one? Yeah. Yeah, too. Supporting membership. Definitely, yeah, two years on the Discord because, Keith, you talked me into it before I went out to the Lift Heart Live Easy, not this year, last year. yeah that's beautiful that's what i like to yeah absolutely i was like if you're coming out man

you got to join i think i do yeah you remember that i was like you can't like not be a part of this because you know we got to like you know do all the meetups and shit are kind of scheduled through that oh yeah absolutely and and and and we do know your supporting membership number it's not 180 but what is it uh four something right 420 414 414 that's not bad we're you're not thought we've definitely had some 500s in the last six months or so so you're not the newest you're not the newest one that's no I'm definitely not the newest one

and I'm also like I mean you guys know I'm not the most active one that discard either I were gone for several months weren't you at one point and I had to like park when you to read download it you fuck yeah I do believe that was a

I remember that more than talking you into joining but yeah yeah I was like wait what I don't have it anymore that's funny I've broken a few phones and you know you got to re-download all the freaking apps and I'm not good at anything so I could tell I wasn't a saved contact

in your phone this morning when I called you and I got the very awkward hello like there was like a who who the fuck is this in the hello as I called you at 8 o'clock this morning and I was like oh he must not have my number anymore he must be on a new phone you know said fuck that guy I don't want to have his phone number

oh no no no no that was definitely because I've broken two phones and then I dropped one in the water. Oof, that's not good. No, that wasn't fun. That does sound like probably the least fun thing. So a little segue into my game here. Big Brain Nivis game, we have this game we like to play here called least fun, most fun.

I'm going to give you a general topic and I want you to use your druthers and go through and kind of, you know, as little as much as you want to say about each side of the coin here. But I want to hear like the best thing about it and the worst thing about it. So the least fun and the most fun, owning meat and muscles, being a small business owner, you know, slinging that jerky, least fun, most fun. Lease fun is, for me, is the marketing side of it, promoting it, and then trying to figure out what events I want to go to. Most fun is getting to actually go to events, like the Lift Hard Live Easy or anything else

that I've done and actually, like, be people facing and get to interact with all you guys. That's a way I get to meet people. And obviously, I sell jerky, but. He can't hear you. He's just trying not to go to bed. He says, good night, guys. Good night, Orne. Oh, good night. Sorry about that. I was like, no, you're good. He snuck up on me. Yeah, I was like, I just like, does Joey know he's there?

Yeah. We can't hear shit with these headphones. So I was kind of hoping you did like a half look and like scared the shit at me. No, I saw, I just saw the hand waving. Yeah, I saw him coming in from behind. I can't figure out how to put you guys all up on the screen at the same time either. Oh, that's fine. Are you on a phone?

Oh, yeah, yeah. Turn it sideways. That's so I got Joey. Yeah, and then up on the top, you'll see a thing that says view. but I feel like we can worry about that later. Yeah, that's interesting content. I'll figure it out. Good stuff.

That's all good. What is I saying? We were in the tail end of most fun when I think we got sidetrack, so I think we're either good or we can reiterate briefly on the most fun. Oh, yeah, just now. Most fun is just meeting everybody, honestly.

Pun intended. Yeah. I'm better in person And I really enjoy being out in social crowds and stuff like that So it's cool just getting to see you guys And I know me and me and Keith Like Keith was on my not mine But podcast that I was on a little bit

He was our first guest and I finally got to meet you in person when I drove all the way out to South Dakota Yes sir. It was a good time Yeah that was one of my first I think I was, I had been on a couple podcasts before that, but that was my first, like, longer podcast. And it was a fucking shit show. It was a, it was a, yeah, it was a, yeah, we were, but it was fun. That's basically what it was.

Like, it is, I mean, we can talk about it now, honestly, because it's kind of the perfect thing. But that was a little bit of what motivated, I mean, it had already been kicked around multiple people had said it. I know I specifically said it, Joey specifically said it at one point, like in the previous year, but like, a podcast of some sort would be fucking awesome. Let's do it. and then I was on your podcast, which is essentially a podcast about a podcast. We didn't want to do that exact thing, but like it was, you know, it definitely didn't hurt and it definitely didn't not motivate us to kind of get this going. So, you know, and it was a little friendly rivalry there for a minute too because it was like,

oh, who's going to last longer and, you know, 133 episodes later. I think we won. Yeah, I think we had like maybe 30. Yeah, but it was, you guys didn't go a while. I mean, it wasn't for, for his. organized as it was it did i mean and you were getting you you pulled some good like some fun guests it was just uh you get so many people on and everyone wanted to talk simultaneously which it took us a while to get used to that too um and it's definitely a good balance but uh yeah well it's yeah

it's hard not to talk over everybody especially after you've had a few drinks so but i'm gonna stop talking over joey and let him hit you with his uh question here yeah this is one we just started doing, it's a relatively new segment to unpaid and underrated. There's kind of a two-person version of it. So I'm going to go with the kind of newer version of this new segment. Once I'm done explaining it, and I'll be done explaining it in a second because, you know, the longer you explain things, the more boring it gets, and I don't want to get into that. And I'll stop listening after a little bit.

You know, no, no, it actually was not. It's because I kept going and I caught myself. Like, I'm not shutting up here. I didn't notice any more ongoing. If you could train with one person and that could be living, dead, or fictional, and have one awesome training session, who would it be with? Oh, man. Well, I've already... I think you've had some pretty notorious ones I can imagine.

I was about to say, I was like, I'd train with it. a couple of people. Yeah, I've trained with Callis. I've trained with the guys off of the C-Team podcast. I've trained with... When you were there? I know you were on the podcast. I don't know if you had a chance to train there. I got to bench with Huck Fenn. Oh, you did a bench night in America. Okay. Yeah, we did a bench in America. Well, yeah, that was that was before. Yeah, I was actually, I traveled all the way out to Illinois because we were doing a meet out there with the team guys. And I just decided, hey, I'm going to drive out to Callis's gym and come squat with you guys. And the Thursday that we got there, we ended up being able to go to the barn. And we benched,

and then we podcasted after. And then, yeah, so it was awesome. That was so cool. But trying to think are the guys that I follow and everything. I don't know. I would love to, honestly, I would like to train with like Brian Shaw. I really I'm interesting. Yeah, I really want to get into

I'm going to my buddy Jeff is competing in a strong man competition this weekend and I'm going there to support him and I know Keith you kind of switched to strong man and I think that's I think that's the next move for me.

too. Think your knee can handle that? I know you're a couple years post major surgery, but you were, my last day memory was you at Lift Hard Live Easy and a like, post- Oh, yeah. That was, that was, that was, that was pre-surgery.

Pre-surgery, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. I could still move around fine after that. Actually, the knees, the rest of me is going to shit. Gotcha. Well, nothing like, so strong men will make you strong in places you're not strong, but it's also going to fucking hurt like a motherfucker or

sometimes. Oh, yeah. Like, you're going to get tendinitis and you're going to be like, why do I have tendon? Like, a lot of it depends too. Like, if you're not, if you're just, it depends on what you add into it. But for me, all the, all these front squats and front racks and stuff just have been killing my forearms or my elbows. So I have to like, just be smart with it and do more stuff just out of a rack. You know, I don't always have to fucking clean and press the bar. Like, like it can just, as long as I know how to do that skill, I don't need to train that way every week. I can, uh, take it a little easier on my joints. But, I think you'll have a blast.

I mean, it's, it's, you know, how old are you, Braden? 40. Ah, so yeah, 40, I was think I was 39 when I got into it. Joey was about 40. You're 42, aren't you, right? Yeah, I'm 40 and a year in a strong manner, or maybe two years now. But, yeah, it's. I actually switched right after my 40th birthday.

Yeah, it's fun, but it's, it is a blast. You will have fun. It's just, it adds a whole new variety. Like, it's, like, you still squat, you can still bench, you're doing deadly variations. It all depends on, like, if you just do your own training or, I mean, I don't know. You still, was Cal is still programming for you? Yeah, yeah, he has. It's, I've been with him. Yeah. Have you, have you, have you talked to him at all about doing some pivoting? Or you're just talking more like still do all your shit with Callis and then just do some strong man shit on the

side? Oh, no, I'm, I'm fully with Callis and, uh, be better training. No, no, I'm like, do you think he would, do you think has he like, have you talked to him about, hey, maybe let's do a couple blocks where I'm doing these new lifts and implementing new strongman stuff and I don't just need to squat bench and deadlift. Oh, yeah. No, yeah. We've, we've talked about that and he's, he's fully in. He's actually like, he's pumped about me doing it. He's like, you've got to get into something else. Yeah. It's, you can only power lift for so long and it's, I mean, you can power up your whole life, but like, I don't know, you have to experiment. Like, I will still power lift. Joey will still power. Like, we're still going to squat bench a deadlift until

we're fucking 80, but like, I miss. I miss. I miss. I miss. that lifting off the floor. Yeah. I've been having to train it specifically for a conference. Yeah, I miss it. It's always, because juggernauts are just like, oh, do block pulls. Okay, do zurchers. Okay, do more block pulls.

And I was like, when can I just lift off the floor like I like doing? And then I just do it anyway. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and I've been. It would be a good one, though. That'd be fun. Right, yeah. I think that would be cool because I've always heard that he's like one of the nicest guys.

He's, I would also just like to be in his presence because he's a giant. Yeah. he's a living giant and as a big dude yeah yeah well Braden we always let people talk as little or as much as they want

what do you do for a living man so I won't name the company just in case but that's why it's as much or as little as you want yeah good point very much just don't say anything you don't want to

or can't say yeah now I I sell uh my regular job is I sell uh engine parts for a boat specifically uh well specifically for one engine company um but i work for a big engine distributor on the east coast so i'm on the road sales um i work from home and then i'm on the road the rest of the time so you're trying to get your into boat dealerships and like boat or like mechanic shops and stuff basically like to get them to carry your buy through your company correct yeah i'll sign up

Yeah, if you're like a boat dealership and you want to sell the certain engine part that I have, I can sign you up and all of that stuff. And then I service and go and see them and do all of that time. And have it just managing current accounts then too? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you'd sign up new people and then manage current accounts. And then my side business is the meat and muscle's barbecue side where website and website and in-person events sell beef jerky. jerky t-shirts and then going to hopefully coming up soon i'm going to be doing a dog treats too um yeah i dogs are something that's i really love like a high like a jerky protein-based

like like like a biscuit you're talking like a like a legitimate like a dog yeah like a chicken like a stick yeah exactly if joey would say yes we do call them pepperettes in canada yes there you go well exactly that's what that's what it would be right and that's actually good for bradden to know as someone who might you know was selling his pepper slinging it yeah so that is as a meat man yourself brayden joey his head in and has enlightened us probably last year or so maybe a pepperette is what they call more i don't know he can explain it so and up here we have paparettes which are what you're talking about which are dog treat pepperettes we call them or paparoni yeah interesting It's a nice little pupper pun.

I like that. Okay. Yeah. So I generally don't like talking about work on this podcast. I know, Braden, you haven't been listening since day one, but it is one of,

like, we begrudgingly added that in because everybody kept asking us to, but it's one of those things where I'm like, this isn't the work podcast. This is the unpaid underrated lifting podcast. So,

that's what is as much. Yeah, I know I was just confirming, like, that we we do that give people well and that's some people some people work for the government they're just like no and we're like dope all right yeah well that's uh the answer i gave you the first part of it is like my candid canned answer yeah because i hate talking about work when you just like you're out socially and you meet somebody yep and just like dude i don't really care about what you do like let's just let's just talk yeah it is like so what do and i'm like oh

I'm a ad and I'm a lifter and I have a podcast and they're like you don't automatically bring up work and I was like no that's not who I am I do like my new job because my new job is technically just heavy lifting being paid for it so that's kind of really fun yeah so speaking of heavy lifting tell us about your lifting career what started it what kept it going I know you had a bit of a lull for a while yeah yeah I'm still in a little bit of a lull but I'm still lifting I've just not posting about it much um so i started well so i've been in the gym consistently for like 20 25 years um but i saw honestly i think it was bigger stronger faster like i saw that movie and i think it was 2016 and i was like i had never heard a power lifting before and i saw that movie i was like oh wait this thing where you can eat as much as you want and you just lift heavy weights

you don't have to do that many reps that sounds like the thing for me so I like I started looking into that it was 2016 I started like kind of looking into powerlifting training I bought a bunch of different PDFs like Juggernaut and that got I'm blanking on his name winning? Yeah, not winning. Yep. Thank you. I bought a bunch of that, and I started programming for myself. I had a couple different spreadsheets and did that kind of thing. And then I did my first meet in April of 2019. So I've been, yeah, I've been competitively for, what, what's that,

2019? Six years now. I've done about eight or nine meets. I can't remember. And honestly, ever since I started powerlifting training too, instead of going towards a goal of, hey, like, I want a body to look like this or something. If I put like a numbers goal and I was just like, hey, I'm just going to train. Having an actual like goal, like I want to do a competition, I've never felt better, never, you know, everything's been, it just like clicked. and I fell in love with it after that. I love hearing that. Yeah. It's been,

power lifting has been a really, really good thing for me. Last year I had a ACL tear. Didn't do it lifting. I did it playing fucking softball. Mm-hmm. Do you think you've retired from softball now with that last end?

I haven't. You know, the side of 40 now? Yeah, I haven't played since. I still want to, but everyone else tells me I shouldn't, but I haven't played yet. I still go and I watch. Yeah. Basically, now I just go and drink beer and watch this guys play. Yeah.

But yeah, so I tore my ACL and I kept training through it. I just did basically like upper body and all that stuff. Like I said, Calis trains me through Be Better training and... It's kept me going, so it's, it's, it's been good. I'm still in a lull, though. And then recently I had a, a, like, pinch nerve in my shoulder. Ouch. Yeah, I went from benching, like, that's why I'm wearing this shirt.

I went from benching 315 to barely being able to do 135 without my left side, like, kind of lagging behind. Where are you, back cam? exactly yeah exactly that's kind of that's shitty what do you think it was like a heavy squat or just ripped like what do you think fucked up your neck definitely wasn't a heavy squad i guess i i have no idea it was just one one day i woke up it was probably being 40 and i was about to say we're 40 sleeping wrong yeah i can tell you bench a lot less and overhead press a lot more and shit your neck and your shoulders feel better a little bit i bet yeah it's it's it's It's coming back now.

It's slowly coming back. I was doing close grip 205 yesterday. And so it's coming back. It's just a slow process. Nice. I think you're definitely, I think it's definitely time for you to switch it up then maybe. You're like you keep getting,

I mean, when you keep getting hurt doing the same shit and quit progressing, like I think that's, I think it's the body saying, I want to do something different for a while. Yeah. And last Sunday I was in,

I went to the gym to help my buddy. Like I said, my buddy Jeff's doing a strong man competition. So I went there and I was helping him blowed up the yoke. And so he's doing a yoke, duck walk, a melody. Medley. Medley, thank you. Yeah, a melody is when we're just going to sing together later. Yeah, that's my dumb ass.

So good. I've had a beer too. anyways he's he's doing that so i was doing the yoke walk and i was like damn i was like this feels really good like this is awesome yep um so i'm gonna go there on saturday and um see see him crush it and then uh i'm pretty sure that's my next step that's amazing uh speaking of doing something different what is crabbing i was just gonna ask you grabbing nice yeah i'm glad you got that Craving. Yeah, that's something we do on the Ushund shore over here.

Or on the East Coast. Keith, you don't know about crap? Well, you're in... No, no, no. It was more that you are a crabber or did crabbing more than, like, what is crabbing? Oh, I got you. Yeah, no. As much as I can, like, I'm from Maryland. What's the biggest

biggest joke? Maryland's about crab cakes and football. And so crabbing, you're just walking out in the mud and kicking them up? Oh, no, no, no. You're on a boat. You can be on a dock, too. So this is long story short. You can be on a dock, too, and have a line with a chicken on the other end,

and you just kind of sink it into the water, and you pull it up really slowly. And then once it gets up, and you can see the crab, you kind of, you take a net and you grab it out of the water. Or you can do it from a boat, which you set out. You can do it two ways. There's something called a trot line where. you have 600 foot of line and you run the boat along it with a roller on the side and you just kind of like dip the crabs out of the water. So you bait it with chicken necks and the crabs hold on to it. When they come up to the top of the water by the boat, you dip them out of the water, throw them into a basket.

And you catch a lot more of them that way. Or you can have traps. And so you throw the traps out into the water, bait it. up, obviously, and you just kind of roll around and pull them up out of the water. I don't know if that makes any sense to you guys. It absolutely does. Yep, yep,

yep, yep. I just had never, you know, I've heard of do like a, I do like a crab cake. Cape Cod crab cake trip a couple years ago, well, fucking decade ago now, but it was damn good crab kick. Oh, yeah. Sorry, crab sal, crab, what the fuck? Crab roll, that's the word I was going for.

There, yeah. I do like a crab cake also, but crab roll. Yeah. Amazing. it's a whole it's it's a whole oh yeah it's a whole process but i mean it's if you have a boat and you can do it um it's cheaper than actually buying them from the store or from a guy are you a man with a boat that sells boat parts or just a man without a boat that sells boat parts i'm a man without a boat that sells boat parts i have friends that have boats because that's the cheaper way to go what's uh what's every boater's favorite two favorite days the day they the day the day they sell their boat and the day they bought their boat, I think.

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But boat stands for breakout another thousand. Nice. Well done. Which is, and as funny as it is, I still want to buy one. So that tells you how dumb I am.

What's a rumple mint? I bet a drink. That it is. It's a hunter-proof shot of peppermint liquor, basically. No, pass. I know who that question came from, too. Well, no, that doesn't seem like, like, because I know when we were together, we were pounded and fireball like it was going out of business.

I can't assume peppermin is going to be, those are very conflicting. Can I, can I settle something up to here? Because Lou keeps saying that I'm getting hem drunk. so many you listened to lose episode recently so Big Lou matter says that I'm the bad influence but

even this year he was competing that motherfucker came over to me and gave me fireball shots I was still I was still drinking coffee at that time

yeah he starts early that is great I do have to thank you. I think it was, so it would have been Lift Hard Live Easy too. Right when I got done

with my strong man, I was completely covered in tacky. Oh yeah. And you brought me two beers, maybe a beer. Either way,

you brought me an ice cold beer right after I got done with the stones. And I was like, this fucking great. Everyone else was still going and I'm like just sitting there in the back,

just drinking my beer all fucking covered in tacky. I was like, I'm just, you know, drenched in sweat in the 90 million degree fucking room

and had the ice cold beer. It was beautiful. I wish I had been there to see you try and get that beer out of your hand with all the tack on it. Yeah, I do think that was actually a problem. I think I had to like, I kept trying to like drag it on the can and then the, or the, dragging the can on the, the garbage bag and the garbage bag got stuck to my, yeah, it was a shit show from what I remember. But it was a, there's very few beers that taste as good as like immediately after a strong man show.

Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I think that's, and I've both lived hard. I don't think I've done it locally. like some of the other guys will have a beer right now maybe i've done like one beer after one of the shows but it's like i'm not going to bring beer you know to the local show and like december or something but lift hard live easy i need a beer immediately after my last of lift so that's always i mean you you guys have seen me at lift hard live easy like i carry i carry cooler everywhere so actually at all of my uh power lifting competitions too i do the exact same thing i usually wait till after um after my squats because i'm more nervous about my squats and I hate benching and deadlift was deadlift was always my best like thing to do so after my squats I would crack my first beer or take a shot of fireball and then we just kind of continue from there so and then all the other lifters would kind of look at me like I was crazy

now I usually um would have a yager or a fireball right before dead lifts there we go I like it yeah don't made it have you made it to the bar um have you made it to the bar um What's the Aberdeen bar we go to? The zoo. Yeah. Have you made it to the zoo? I don't think I've seen you at the zoo either year, but I'm sure you were there. But unless you were passed out at the hotel room, I could see that being a thing, too, after being in the Odie or the Rimcota for 13 hours drinking.

Well, funny story last year. Nice. Now we get it to the zoo last year. And I don't know who the person was, but I know it was. It was like, I think it was a blonde girl, but thank God for her, because I was so hammered. And Lou and his girlfriend, Alex, had left. And they told me they were leaving. I was like, no, I'm good.

I'm fine. But I kept trying to get out of the fucking bar. And I kept walking around. And then I would go out to the outside where everybody, like, would smoke. And then I would come back in. And I was like, looking around, like, I can't get out of this place. Oh, no. You couldn't find the front door basically

No I couldn't find the front door And then eventually Some very nice person was next to me And she was like Hey do you need some help I was like I need to get the fuck out of here Where's the front door And

She took me to the front door And I walked all the way back to my hotel And it was great And then actually on my way back I actually did get set by the cops in South Dakota to. Oh, no. Yeah, so there was a... Tell him you know a Mr. Caden,

who, you know, Massonomic supporting member, big, big gym member, big Caden. His police officer there and the dean. Oh, well, I don't know who it was, but thank God they were in a... I had, uh, I was just, I was... Just walking here. No, I was, I was just walking down the street and there was this, uh, there was this old classic, like, Ford Tempest on the side.

And the outside looked great. and I was like right on my path going back to the hotel and the outside looked great and I for whatever reason I was just hammered enough I like I just grabbed a hold of the door and I opened the door just to look inside and it opened so I was like all right I'm going inside sir what are you doing exactly I looked inside I shut the door and then right as I got up to like walk further this uh like I saw the lights and I was like oh shit that's for me. My ride's here.

Yeah. I was like, oh, no, this is not good. But no, like, thank God for him.

He was in a good mood. I'm always polite to police officers or as polite as I can be. And he was just like, what the hell are you doing here? I was like, I was at this mass dynamics lifting thing. And, uh,

I, I don't know why I'd open the door. I'm sorry. He goes, yeah, you probably shouldn't have done that. I wouldn't have pulled over or anything. I was like, I know. I don't know why. And he took my ID just to check if I had any warrants and thank God I don't.

But he was like, hey, he goes, where's your hotel? And I told him which one it was. He goes, just walk back there. You're fine. So it was not a very, it was just thank God for me. He was in a good mood and all of that. what's your take on the mosquito situation is someone that's been there for a couple years now have you been home three or just two and three i can't remember if you were there you're one

no it was just uh just two and three yeah okay so the second one you're a little bit of an outdoorsman you should be familiar with the any any situation out there just get a little out of hand for you yeah not like i'm an outdoorsman but not like that Jesus Christ right you have a fucking tanner he's playing it down there no no no yeah i'll come back with bumps all over her legs yeah we're at tanner's house and uh the sun goes down and there's a thousand mosquitoes on you immediately yeah yep yep when we it wasn't i don't think it was as bad last year but um i didn't either yeah you're too i didn't hang out as as long last year because i had a a little bit of a different journey out

there um because i i drove out there both years and it's like a it's a 20 three-hour drive, but I break it up, I go and see, I go, I stop in Illinois, and I see Tom Callis, I work out in his gym, and then I travel the rest of the way the next day, but the next day, I didn't, sorry, last year, I didn't get as far of a drive in me. So I had, like, still, I think I had, like, 12 hours to drive to get to Tanner's house. Yeah, so I basically, I basically just, I went there, I checked in the hotel, went to Tanner's house. I missed. I was actually pissed. I missed the cottage cheese eating contest. That was fun. It was an experience. I'm curious what they kind of like they have to just

they just keep adding cooler shit each year. So I just, you know, I'm excited for everything that we do. Yeah. I really wanted to see that. But I was like, I miss that. But yeah. And then I was there and I was, I was fading. I had, I actually just had two beers that night. And I was like, I got to get out of here. I got to go to bed. I feel that. Um, I remember I had Liftar and the VZ2 because that would be the last one I was at When we would walk to Buffalo Wild Wings Because it's where we ate

Because the hotel was right next door We would avoid the grass That separated the parking lots Oh yeah, there was so much worse Because you would like You'd be walking through the parking lot You'd be fine But you'd step onto that grass

And you would just get demolished immediately And to the point where we were all taken The long way around So we didn't have to go in any grass Yeah Don't check the mosquitoes up Yeah uh whoof going on going on i had what i just had a train of thought oh okay so you're

i'm sure well i was about to say i'm sure i completely side-checked you guys from anything oh no no no no not at all this is the point like yeah we've mentioned it before i mean joey hit on it last week like if we only i feel bad sometimes when we don't cover a lot of stuff because people did take time out of their day to submit shit but like the podcast is for us and the crew not the 10 people that submitted notes, so it kind of But Alice submitted a really funny story about when you shot the shit with his old man at his kids' birthday party a whole day long.

Is there a funny story there? I mean, anything you want to say? Well, so I was out there my previous job before the one I have now. I went to, I would go to a conference every year in Chicago. It was actually the first time I met Callis and Jacob Ross out there. And so the next year, I went out there and the cows invited me to his house. It was one of his kids' birthdays. And then it was also his wife's sister, Haley, it was her graduation party. So he was having a big thing. He invited me out and I went. And his family was there.

And he introduced me to his family and everything. And he introduced me to his dad. And his dad, he just locked into me. And he's a great dude, like old school guy, kind of like, I mean, kind of like me. I really identify with that kind of like, just like old school kind of personnel, like hard worker, take care of the family, old jokes and all of that stuff. uh so he just he just kind of he sat there and joked with me for hours he was trying to get me to hit on the bartenders and like trying to get me to like hook up with them and all that stuff and like it was it was a fun time his dad is a freaking awesome dude and i actually kind of miss him

like i wish i i wish i'd been able to hang out with his dad again too you're closer to him than you're Tom, aren't you? He's in Kentucky or something, didn't he? Yeah, yeah, he's in, yeah, there's somewhere. Arkansas, I think. Arkansas, yeah. Arkansas. That's where it is. Arkansas. Yeah, Arkansas. Yeah, no, very good people. His whole family, like, even his one of his brothers was there, and we just all got along really well. I always say Midwest is the best. Are you frozen, Keith? No.

Hey, I know. I just, well, I've got another one, but I would, I give you a chance to ask something before we, I got one more before we go into a games. You got something go? Well, I've got a couple, but, uh, so are you still, you're still a jewelry, right? Now, is that the same Julie that you guys brought on the C-Team podcast when you had like just met her at a bar or just something completely different? No, yeah, I'm still, we actually moved into a house together. That's awesome. Congratulations. The house I'm in now. Thank you. Yeah, now, everything's going really well. I think you. I think you, you've been. I think you. I think you. You literally, like, on a first date, you basically had her on your podcast, essentially, like, within meeting her within, like, a week, like, you want to come on my podcast? Yeah. Yeah, that was, that was, like, my birthday, too.

Nice. I do remember a lot of drama. Actually, I don't know if that wasn't, there was this. We can't get it. We can get it into whatever you want. No, no, there was some drama with other people and her friend or something. We probably shouldn't talk about. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

I don't think they listen to this. I'm sure he doesn't. He's busy paying, but it's so good. I know what you're talking about, though, yeah. Anyone that listen to, yeah. Anyway, we'll move on. Thank God my phone died that night because, yeah, it could have gotten bad. Well, Big Doug did have, did have one specifically.

And it reminisced something for me, because I remember something that was talked about on the C-Team. If it's a negative story, I don't want to talk about it, because I thought it something to do with your previous marriage. And if that's the case, don't really talk about it. But he wanted me ask about the door. And I can't remember specifically. I know there's a funny story, but if it's a shitty, you don't want to talk about it. And it came up twice. But I'm pretty sure it's really, really funny. Yeah. It can't remember it. It came up asking about the door. And then in another submission, no seriously, ask him about the door. Yeah. Or something along those lines. I remember the outline. I just, I can't pinpoint the details anymore. It's been too long.

yeah now it well it it does have to do with the divorce but i'll still talk about it because it's fine if you're coming um yeah no i don't know we are the trauma podcast i'm fine with it hey buddy puppies oh what's how buddy this is tito hi buddy so this is my this is my buddy i adopted him last year oh and that's how big boy is sam or sam adams and then that's or well no that's uh So same as Julie's dog. And he actually, she got him from Puerto Rico. Oh, I do remember that story, wasn't it? Like something she said on the podcast, maybe?

That was probably, yeah, it was probably. It was like a mutt they found on the street or something and brought home with us. Well, actually, yeah, that's, and that's what they do in a lot of those places. They just, like, find these dogs on the streets and these rescue companies, they figure out a way to, you know, get them to people in the, wherever that will. love them. That's awesome. Anyways, the damn door.

Yeah, so the door. This fucking door. I do remember it being a, I just want to hear it. I can't remember. This door probably cost me about $1,600. And that was just in emails back and forth with my lawyer. Wow. Jeez.

So, no, during the whole, during the whole, during the whole process when I was getting to the final edges of like the divorce thing my ex-wife decided that she was going to blame me for stealing a door

from her house and I was like the fuck is she talking about so I can't if I call my lawyer it's going to cost me just as much as an email but I kind of thought I kind of forgot about hey she's got to respond to everyone

and everyone costs a certain amount of money. But so apparently, she thought that I had stolen a door from our house when I was in there one time just like grabbing a computer monitor or something like that. She never realized that we had a flood in the basement at one point and the serve pro guys came in, cleaned up everything took the door off put it in a different area of the basement so it was a whole it was it was funnier when like we were joking about it and everything but uh it was it was basically just there was a door in our basement that got taken off the hinge and she thought I stole it and I was like and after after came from all the emails back and forth the lawyer said yeah exactly and after all of that, I was like, you know what?

I wish I had stolen this fucking door because I would have hung it on my wall and they're like, this is my $1,400 goddamn door. You would have been holding it up on your Tinder profile. Yeah, exactly. You've been like, hey, here's my door.

Let's go. Yeah, I remember bits and pieces of that from like five years ago. God damn, that's wild. That is wild. Yeah, it's been a little while now. It's been a while. it's been a while

indeed anything else you see there Joey before we hit FMK nah I'm ready I was born ready oh boy well we've got a lot of

so Brandon bro shit Braden sorry yeah you're good we got a fuck merry kill I'm gonna give you three topics I've got a lot of submitted ones I don't know if I want to go funny or serious

yeah man I think I'll go with the safe one go 90s action stars so let's go Arnold Schwarzenegger Sylvester Stallone, Bruce Willis, F.M.K. Arnold, Cillone, Willis, who are all still with us, but I'd say in the next five years, they might all be gone. Is Willis? Is Willis still with us? I mean, he's not really with us anymore. Oh, okay, so he hasn't, I thought, I thought he has a form of dementia, I believe. Oh, no, I thought I saw that he passed. That was not, I was not making a mental joke there.

No, no, no, no. I was not. whole no i was i swear i thought i saw something john mclean hayton motherfucker over there uh yeah no they are all still alive uh they're all in their 70s probably yeah well yeah and bruce willis got some not so good stuff going on sure so yeah fmk i i i would guess i can't you have your brothers i guess i can't i guess i can't fuck him then no no so like i look at it as like they're in their prime their prime movie career like your favorite two or three movies from each of them stacked up against each other

if you will and also your druthers so do it however you want to yeah yeah that's tough though because I don't want to kill any of them that's why it's a fun game it's FM it's not

we don't do this isn't you know there's no tearing your ACL here it's not softball we don't give you easy shots hey I got a double while I tore my ACL at least

I guess that's something Tanner did a double A-C-L tear, too. It just took, you know, this is five years apart from each other. All right, so. You got to pick one. Yeah, let's see here. Well, I'm fucking Bruce Willis. Okay.

That's just a thing, because I've always loved Die Hard. I love a lot of his movies and everything like that. I'm just, I'm fucking him. Yep. Especially because now he's got dementia. I don't want to be married to that guy. I mean, I mean, we don't know his door situation, so don't judge him too hard yet. That's true.

That's true. I mean, he probably has really expensive. He probably has really expensive. He needs, like, those special ADA compliant doors that are a little bigger. Oh, and maybe he would go early, so I might want to be married to him, so he'd leave me his money. Yeah. I don't know how much money left. He didn't, he did, like, no good movies the last 20 years.

Yeah, I know. It's all like straight. It's like straight to national. stuff but I think he he think he fell off the face I think his movies died harder died harder than arrested that wasn't actually that wasn't

intended to be a pun but like well you did it his shit sucked like in the mid 90s probably where some of the Arnold Sloan stuff wasn't horrible the last you know so okay so you got to yeah you got to marry one you got to kill one

so you got to you know Stallone or Arnold which one do you like the least I guess that's that's a tough one oh well all right now i'm marrying arnold all right i'm marrying arnold because i grew up on his movies predator is still one of my favorite movies ever um man i got i got to i got to kill saloon which is sad yeah you're you're essentially putting like predator up against rambo and that's impossible i know i know that's tough because there was there was only one good predator and uh there so many good rambos. Maybe.

A lot of rambos. I think there's five rambos. Yeah, there were a lot of rambos. Five rambos and two were good. Good ones. Exactly. Yeah, there were two good rambos. I just, I'm trying to think of like, take out diehard and, well, I guess Willis does

have some other movies I like, but I don't know. Like, I really like Last Boy Scout, but I don't think that's like renowned as a good movie, but I think it's a great movie. I love that. I mean, I, yeah. I think it has the weaker career, doesn't he? Or does he not? I don't know.

I don't know. I would say out of the three of them, he does. Yeah, I would say out of the three of them, he does. But, yeah, I'm still going to fuck him. There you go. Because I feel like the other two would probably hurt me. Yeah, exactly. It wouldn't be me fucking them.

They would fuck me. Joey's going to hit you with some rush. I would just, I would say that there's, there's an argument that Canada Reeves has been in more action movies than Bruce Willis, but Bruce Willis gets recognized more for it. I like Keanu Reeves a lot better than Bruce Willis.

Yeah, John Reeves is awesome. I mean, you can't deny the fucking John Wick. And actually, the dedication that he did did that whole filming process and everything, too. Yep. I think you could take John Wick out of it, and I still like Keanu Reeves.

The Matrix, speed. point break point blank yeah yeah yeah like it yeah i think there's an argument there but nobody will have nobody will ever see him that way because he was in bill and ted which that was still a great movie yep but it's still one of those like camera he's not an action star and it's like he every action movie he's ever been in has like been amazing done amazing and like created new forms of action yeah i think you know there's a good argument that he is an action there. Well, and they even said, too, um, like his,

his, uh, limp and John Wick like his knees are actually like fucked up. Like, it's not, it's not a fake limp. Like, that's actually like, he's hurting. Yeah. He's doing all of his stuff and he's actually hurting and he's just like still going. Um,

I want to talk about John Wick some more. Uh, we'll go with Mount Rushmore. Oh, because I watched the baller. John Wick movies. I watched the ballerina and he shows up. He's in like, the last, like, quarter of it or so, I think. Yeah, but, like, where's the timeline?

I thought he was dead. Yeah, I'm. But he's, like, still. We'd have to chat, GBT that one. Yeah, it's, anyway. Mount Rushmore, top four golden era, W.WE tag teams. Ooh.

Oh, tag teams. No, I saw that one on there. And it also said factions, but we've done. actions before it's the golden era like golden era is like the Hulk Hogan macho man like the 80s early 90s 80s yeah mid 80s late night or mid

90s okay so pre NWO and DX yeah oh shit that's like tag teams are actually tag teams or just put them together druthers like if you want to

if you want to bring up the mega powers you can bring up the mega powers shit that's a tough one for me I really got into wrestling when uh like the attitude area of everything well then let's go with attitude era instead all right get out of here buddy you didn't know

well we got the Dudley brothers yep um who was it it was uh Fuck. I'm going to put, I want to put some cold with somebody

because he's my favorite. Hey. No, hey, buddy, get out of here. Go on. Go on.

Don't yell at me. You got Orrin coming in. You got dogs coming in. Yeah. It's okay. I did like the Dudley brothers. I also liked, I don't know.

Well, Undertaker and Kane. Yeah, Yeah, the Brothers of Destruction. Yeah. You want to help them out, Joey, and just, like, name some from that era? Yeah, you can go the New Age Outlaws. You can go, Edging Christian, the Hardy Boys.

Oh, the Hardy Boys are good. Resurgence there, too, I think. Yeah, I don't think they would go up on anything. I know Stone Cold and the Rock weren't a team. at all, but they were two of the best out of that era, and then Sun Cold kind of paved the way for the rock

to be the champion. So can I put them together? Sure. All right, we'll do that. I don't know how many I've said. Three. Three.

Hmm. I also have a problem when you guys, like when a question like this is asked, my mind goes blank. Yeah. It happens to everybody. Yeah. Damn.

Help me out. Throw some names out. Okay. Hardy boys. As in Christian. Who is it that was in that TLC with them? Those are the Dudley's. You mentioned them already.

Oh. Degeneration X. Triple-H and... Triple-Ate and Sean Michaels. Sean Michaels. There you go. Yes. There we go.

There you go. Winner, winner, chicken dinner. Boom. All right. You pass. I was like, I know I'm forgetting about something. And that's dumb of me to forget because I was doing suck it throughout all of high school. Who was it?

Until we got pulled aside and said, hey. But hey, you can't do that. Be like, yeah, shut up. Yeah. You can't tell me what to do. I'm a degenerate. All right. Move on to unpaid and underrated.

yeah i think we're good there was nothing uh one last someone has submitted you're exceptionally fast for your size is that something you do you agree with i do not okay i really do not um someone thinks you're fast yeah well that's that's cool i don't think i am all right i'm i'm like i'm 230 to 250 depending on what i'm doing well brayden we've got a game we call unpaid or underrated we're going to give you the you know we're going to hand select a handful of topics here for you and uh you're going to go through and you're going to describe them if you consider them unpaid which we're going to say shitty no one wants to be unpaid or underrated pretty awesome so unpaid or underrated unpaid being bad underrated good let's hit you with going to bars by yourself oh uh uh I'm just saying I'm paid I've done that a bunch I'm a traveling like salesman

so I've been to a bunch of bars by myself and yes I have had a lot of good times being at bars by myself but it's normally because I'm on a work trip and I just randomly start talking to somebody and then the night goes on from there but the next day sucks so yeah i'm talking to like i'm a talking to person and apparently like i don't know

people just sit down next to me and i start talking to him and uh then my next is shit nice all right unpaid oh because you're hungover yeah pretty much unpaid or underrated i'm not i don't know what this is but it was in things you love so if it's a joke we'll move on uh chunky murals what is a chunk of those are definitely those are underrated chunky Merle I don't know it's my buddy name Merle so Merrill I met him he was my freshman freshman year college roommate and he came up with a drink that was called a chunky Merle and it was Captain Morgan what was it was Captain Morgan

Coke and chocolate milk. Whoa. And it sounds disgusting. But if you take it real quick before it curls or anything, it is fucking delicious. It is like a cookies, vanilla spice chocolate milk.

Yeah, because like white Russians and stuff have milk in them, so it can't be the worst. We used to have a joke shot that was whiskey, and milk, and we called it a yeast infection. I can't take credit. It was from a TV show. But it was really,

so you won't do it. Yeah. This guy, and I'm still friends with him today. He was my freshman year of college roommate, still friends with him today, and he came up with that shot. And he brought the ingredients out. I was like,

doing. Yeah, that's something he had to, you were both freshmen. That's something he, like, was doing in high school. Like, I couldn't imagine making, like, were you coming up with that as a kid? Like, that's such a weird thing. Oh, and that, that, that did. So I just recently met up with him. I was at my parents' house and me and him went out on the boat.

And I've never had a shot of Malort before. Oh, no. That was also something we were just to ask about, but. Oh, all right. Well, we can go towards that. No, no, no, no. no, it was funny that it came up. No, someone had said things that you either.

It was either under love or hate. I think it was, uh, that is the worst shit I have ever drank. Yeah. And I have drank some bad, like I'm not like very picky about anything. I'll drink whatever. Um, I even drank like we had in college, we used to have, we had this net that we just throw empty bottles up into and we would just kind of like every once in a while we would just drain all the bottles out.

into one shot glass and then you'd play a card game and whoever lost had to take the shot. That's just, that's just called a Mississippi mud. There you go. Or if you're in the East Coast, it's New Jersey, well, New Jersey turnpike.

Yeah, all right. Well, because they don't have a wad up there. Water. All right. My last one. I'm going to hit you with unpaid or unrated Kabuki barbells. or IP Kabuki

yeah so I just man the only one I've ever used is the trap bar because that's at the gym that I'm at now I'm gonna go underrated just because of that trap bar

nice yeah I think so I thought you had more experience with it so that kind of felt yeah it's all good I've never I've never competed on it was a bonus so I still got my guy got on mine in I'm happy yeah yeah i've never i've never competed on any of those bars or anything like that i i've just honestly

the only one i've touched is at this gym that i go to now and they have a trap bar and i actually i really like it i think i've used a kabuki bar once i think at keiths and then once in a meet yeah it made me want to get a deadlift bar and then i got a texas within it was just superior yeah i've always gone with uh any specialty bar that i bought myself was a texaselphalphi look for or Texas squat bar, yeah. Okay, my turn. Unpaid or underrated, Apple Fireball. Unpaid.

Yeah. That shit's gross. Yeah. Up here, you get it in mixed cans where they do it like with Cola and the Apple Fireball. And like it's okay, but you can't get the strictly Apple Fireball up here. And I don't think that's too. Yeah. I still, I still, I still have one sitting in my freezer because I took, I bought them, I saw them, I bought it, and I was like, I was like, I don't know.

Yep, I'm just looking at a fireball from like two weeks ago that I have to throw out. I like the original. Yeah, me too. Unpaid or underrated bees. Ooh, unpaid. Bees? Yeah. Fuck bees.

nobody likes a bee I like a good bee but I also like I'm not afraid of them my wife if a bee gets near her she's like full blown panic attack and me I'm just like go away but I've only ever been stung like twice

yeah but it doesn't hurt that much I'm not gonna let myself get stung by one I'll swat them away or whatever but I don't like them the fucking worse is when they come into your goddamn truck or your car and they're trapped in there

and then I am was crash. One time we were driving, it was like when I first bought my car and we were going out to my mom so I had two of my friends, my backseat, my wife in my passenger seat and I had my window cracked

just a little bit and a hornet, not even a bee, flies in, bounces off the ceiling and lands directly in my crotch. Cool. Yeah, so I'm like,

honey, honey, honey, I need you to get this, I need you to get this. She goes, she goes, pull over, idiot. I'm like, Oh, yeah, that's an option. But you're on your own, brother.

Yeah. If only dogs had thought about that when Massonomics called him for the anniversary episode. Yeah. But otherwise, that thing was going to sting my dick. And that was a follow-up to that, though. Or wasp and hornets, not bees? No. They're literally, okay.

So that's really. They're more evil bees. Yeah. I know, but like, I guess what, so a bee is just a honeybee then. Like, there are other, like, I guess I'm, I'm, I'm, there's lots of different. bees, but wasps and hornets aren't them. Okay. Wasps and hornets are wasps and

hornets. I don't like any of them. I'm sure they're, I know bees are great for the environment, you know, doing plants and all that stuff, but fuck them all. Fuck a bee. Bees or Bruce Willis, which one? Bruce Willis. There you go.

Unpaid or underrated, my last one. The quiet you get in the woods when you're deer hunting. Ooh, unpaid. Underrated or unpaid? Okay, so underrated. Oh, that's, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry. No, it's okay.

Underrated. Yeah, underrated. So when I was a kid, this I'd been hunting all my life. When I was a kid, I used to like during goose hunting because you were with everybody, and you can, like, joke around and stuff, but you would see birds coming,

and everybody would get real quiet. And then as I got older, I realized there's something great to the silence of nobody talking, and you're just sitting with yourself, you're not on your phone, you're not doing anything, you're just sitting in the woods by yourself, and nobody's talking to you. And it's great. Yeah, it's nice. And I, like, and a lot of times if I'm in my home and I just sit by myself, like my mind starts going crazy, but it's something about being in the woods, nothing happens. It's just, it's nothing. It's just you're enjoying the,

you're listening to sounds. You hear the wind, you hear the rain, you hear the snow, you hear squirrels jumping around and turkeys, and then all of a sudden you see a deer. Like,

no, yeah, underrated. It does sound wonderful. I do love it in the woods. It's nice. Follow up to that briefly. Yeah.

Someone did submit, I'm assuming as a rib, was something that's a funny story about you is every year You notoriously get the smallest deer on their family's land every single year. That's been a long running joke on that farm, and I know who that came from again. I shot one small deer one time. Well, you build on.

No, I can't say that. But this was it. Yeah, it was little, though. It was, but I will say, I will say, it was, so they do things like, we call it drives. So I'm sitting on one side of a ravine and people are walking on the other side and deer just run through the woods. So deer, there was like 15 deer running through and I shot one of them and the closer I got to it, the smaller it got. And I was like, fuck. I was like, damn it.

And then I could like pick it up with one arm. I was like, oh no. But I did. I cleaned it. I skinned it myself. I cut it up into quarters. I didn't take too long, huh? I was also not paying 60 bucks for somebody else.

But I will say, that was the best taste in the air I've ever had. It was like veal. Well, I think you passed unpaid and underrated. I did, he did. I hope so. Well, I got some round two of the affiliates here. We have Kim, a barbell rescue. If you get that dirty shaft, need to get it cleaned up.

Kim, Barbell Rescue, take care of you. unpaid home gym con Jake did his up he did an apology letter today but it's one of those like mock ones where it's like sorry we're fucking awesome kind of thing and just like listed like a hundred things that they do right so because at first I was like oh fuck what do they do and it caught me off guard for half a second I was like I see what you did there fellas um get your tickets for home gym con so you know it's can be right on top I lift hard this year which kind of stinks but you know is what it is Jake had like limited limited options for dates and it will be the you know the crew meetup of the the East, if you will, like this year. You know, they're going to have the booth. It's going to be awesome time. Ashen Freedom Fitness equipment, he's got that flooring, all those flooring needs for you. And Big Grant at the Strength Co. If you have any apparel needs, you want to get some, I think you, I think it might be

just too late to get the turkey pool shirt. Joey's got the cat, the kitty cat one. I know they're doing the turkey pool soon. I think you had already had to, yeah, you would have definitely had to buy the shirt, I think already. But, you know, go ahead and support Big Grant at the Strength Co. and save a couple bucks. And that is all I have.

Braden, is there anything you wanted to ask Joey and I or any follow-up questions or anything you wanted to, you know, circle back to? I had one. That works. Whatever you got, brother.

When is the, is the crew ever going to have an Arnold booth? I could see the crew having maybe, well, something home gym con at this point. I don't see the Arnold. I was about to say, there's no way.

The Arnold, like, I wrote it down. I know how. expensive it is because i i looked at i looked at doing that for my jerky business i was like there's no way i can pay 10 grand for a fucking poop here i think you might have you looked into home gym con uh i know jake i mean jake usually likes to keep it mostly like the equipment and but he lets a couple food vendors in of or not i mean like i mean it's you know it's a protein source so you're kind of right in that line yeah and now so a couple people at uh

lift hard live easy told me about that and i am going to look into that because that would that would be something good i think because i mean it's it's in louisville so that can't be very far from i mean that's we got like i'm under eight-hour drive for you i'd imagine yeah well and yeah and yeah and i could figure out a way to ship stuff into if i want to fly or anything like that oh yeah yeah it's but i mean i drove 23 hours to south dakota so i would say it's not going to be the it's not a drinking during the venue event i mean there's plenty of after hours at the hotel bar and not to say that they didn't see several of my vendor friends you know shit hammered at fucking midnight but uh definitely not definitely not

drinking on the floor well here to be fun yeah the thing if if i'm on the floor and it's on my own time i'm going to be drinking so yeah that's what you say if i end up showing up there's drinking on the floor like exactly i'll keep it i'll keep it hidden but that's just the way i roll in a drink in a drink spot or chill there you go exactly right are you what's your

2026 plans look like for lift hard are you thinking you're making the trip out for number four oh yeah no I'll definitely be there I have such a good time

and honestly I think I like the amount that I sell normally pays for the trip but I think I spent more money on Masonomics gear I bought it I bought a bunch of Huckfin Barabell stuff.

I bought one of the shoulder rocks from the guy that was... His name was Dan. Yeah, Big Dan. Yeah, I spent more money. Oh, I bought some barefoot shoes, too. So I spent way more money than I sold. But it was still, it was such a good time. Like, I'll be out there again.

Nice. Barefoot shoes are great. Can confirm. Oh, yeah. They're the best. I, because I have to wear safety boots now, whereas before I had to wear dress shoes, right? So, I mean, safety boots for nine hours of my day, and then I slip on those nice osos, which are no laces, and, you know, oh, man. Oh, yeah.

And he's like, you take the first step, and you're just suddenly like, hey, my feet don't weigh 10 pounds. Like, this is amazing. Oh, yeah. And it's every day it surprises me. Oh, yeah. And I have horrible flat feet and everything. Like, they hurt all the time. And actually, after I wear those shoes, my feet hurt significantly less.

Yep. Yep. That's part of the reason I switched, too, is just because I was getting ingrownails, getting foot pain and everything. Yeah. And I just started, like, something's got to give. And then I discovered barefoot shoes. And I think in a month, my toes started feeling better.

Like, everything started getting much better. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. We have an episode with them. If you haven't listened to it, Brayden, it was one of my favorite. It was the owner and his part is one of the owners and his wife were on. Okay. Great, really fun episode.

Yeah. Very good stuff. Especially if you. All right. They go, they are their home gym con veterans as well, too. So that's kid. Yeah. I'm not sure if they touch base on it during the podcast.

I think we did a little bit. I'm sure. That's one of those other ones, too. It's like, did we record that last year or two years ago? We'll never remember. I don't know. I think it actually maybe, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, no, I'll go back and listen to the.

that because uh yeah as much road time as you have i think you get it and you know and yeah with with uh huck finn's podcast being so intermittent nowadays there's not as much for you to consume yeah i've been getting into a lot of different podcasts these days so yeah i'll definitely go back and listen to that yeah that's shelby and ryan i don't think we meant i don't think barefoot's in the title you'd be looking for shelby and ryan yeah okay i i know Nate doesn't want to go back and edit stuff, but I'd really, like, I don't want to fuck anything up, but I'd love to just, I'm going to, actually, I'm on a shit ton of vacation over the winter. Like, I would dedicate it like a half a day if I could just, I can go through and edit the title.

I don't even care if it'll push out to the platforms, at least on my website. I think it'd be cool to, yeah, to have scroll up and out on the website and not have to click on the episode to see who was in it because I think that's deterring people. I mean, it's maybe it's not, but I don't know. Like, it's, it's not helping people cherry pick episodes because they don't have that name recognition, like, like they do with the last 30 episodes. we've done where we actually started including the name after the funny title, the silly goose title.

But also, it's like, in our defense, we didn't think it was the last fucking 30 episodes probably. So it was like, who cared? It was just going to be something stupid we did for a minute. And now we're like trying to get people to go back and listen to something from two years, two and a half years ago. And it's like, what, what episode was that? And it's like, well, you have to go search their name. And, you know, maybe you'll find, you will find the episode.

But it's just like, I mean, as long as you remember their name. Yeah. As long as you remember their name, I think that's pretty good because, like, I've gotten into listening to some, like, comedy podcasts and, like, the one, specifically, like, bad friends, they don't put the comedian's names in the title a lot of the times. It's like somebody will just show up, and it's, like, some comedian that you love. So, yeah. So, I don't, it could be a good thing. There are two sides to every coin, I suppose. Like, I get why we could do it either way, but I just.

as someone that's like tried to get crew to do stuff in the past things like there's some even like with hogan like hogan didn't want to say it but there was there was a handful of people that either ghosted him said they'd get him stuff and never did just not a big deal i mean it's all for fun but like it takes fucking 30 seconds to do some of the stuff people are asking you to do and you don't do oh i know just as i was just sitting like the general public are if it takes more than like bending your neck sometimes it's like too much for people to ask so i don't know well and i i i mean I mean, I'm glad you called me this morning because I even did it for this. I was like, oh, shit, I didn't do that. Like, I just, like, I did a couple of things and I just moved on to the next thing. I was like, I'm pretty sure he didn't join our separate Discord because some people do things that like our Discord is just the channel in Massonomics. I'm like, no, we have like a, we have our own little thing now just to make it easy. And that's, that's exactly what I thought I was like, it said join Discord and I didn't

read the rest of it. I just like, I'm already in that. I'll go down. God damn it. Nate, why didn't you know he would do that? good stuff that's just me I don't read emails anymore

I just look for the important stuff and I go I uh AI is getting funny now it's so intuitive well it's not intuitive but uh I had opened up a group chat

on Instagram that I'm in with some of the home gym guys and there was like 50 unread messages from like the last like 12 hours or something and it literally is like do you want me to summarize this like there was like an actual Instagram and I was like

I wasn't going to take it for gospel, but I did want to see how not stupid it was. And it was, so I actually, like, I read it and I screenshot it and sent it to the group. And they were, I was like, how accurate is this before I, like, read these like 40 messages? And they were like, I mean, more or less kind of. Yeah. Like interesting. No, Apple email does that now. Rather than show me the subject line of the email, it shows me, like, the title, like who it's from. And then it says summary. And it's just like, select words.

And I'm like, but I don't even know the subject of the email now. Yeah. It drives me insane. AI is it, I don't need AI in everything. Oh, it's here. It's coming. I know. I should get rid of it.

No, well, it's not going to go away because it's going to become sentient. Yeah, eventually. Nobody saw Terminator. I feel like we didn't talk about your company. And I mean, we've hinted on it, but where are people going to find, you know, how can people order your, you know, your product? what product do you actually have? What's your best seller? Do you have anything coming up? You know, actually probably should have talked more about that too because they used to, sorry, I don't, you used to cook it all yourself too. And you recently, you know, after a while you got into a commercial kitchen doing all that too. So let's just expand on your, your meat there for a bit. Yeah. So mean muscles barbecue. It's meat muscles jerky, jerky with an attitude. Basically, yes, I used to do it all myself. I used to,

I used to cook, marinate, cook, package, label, everything myself. And with my normal job, it got to be too much. So I found a guy that does my recipes, labels it for me, packages it, sends it to me. And then I can get it to you guys at a actually more affordable price, too, because when I was doing it myself, I was selling bags for like $15. And now I can actually sell them for $10. And if we're in person, I'll sell them for 10. But on the website, I sell them for 1099 and plus shipping. But it's meat and muscles barbecue.com.

The Instagram site is meat and muscles barbecue. And my personal one is meat and muscles. So you can get between both of them either way. So I have four different. Right now I have a, I have a whiskey bent. and uh let's it's lGS have an arrow burn it was originally made off of uh let's get stupid because and actually on the label i used to have huck fin and uh and tom callis on the label like uh the one guy um the uh ryan mok um he was doing the vodka for them

and he had them on the label so i just kind of like copied his label and put it on the jerky but right now it's just it's have an arrow burned whiskey bent are the two originals and now i have a maple bourbon and a terriaki flavor whiskey bent and uh have an arrow burn they're a little bit drier there's less sugar in it so it's a little bit drier it's more of like a not harder to chew but it's a little bit tougher jerky um and then the the maple bourbon and the tariaki are much more tender. There's a little bit more sugar in it. But people prefer either or. I like both. So it's just a little bit of variety. It's 30 grams of protein per bag. And then the carbs depend on which one you get. I think going off the top of my head, I think the tariaki and maple

bourbon one is like 16 grams of carbs. And then the other two are less. I can't really remember right now, but, yeah, got a website. I'll ship anywhere in the U.S. I've shipped overseas once, but kind of got held up in customs for a few weeks, so I wouldn't recommend that. Yeah, there's just meat muscles barbecue.com, and yeah, it's been a fun little side project. And I have tried it. I can confirm that I had to have an arrow when I made.

met you, and it is delicious. Thank you. I bought a couple of bags, I think, each year, or at least I know this past year. And it was definitely my travel home meal because it was just, I think we had a short layover or something. So it was just like, oh, I guess we're not getting a burger in the airport this time. So definitely consumed a decent amount of that on the airplane in my travels home. That's what I did, too.

Yeah. These are my protein snacks for the trip. Yeah, and I appreciate everybody at the, at the meat. that came ordered stuff from me. Everybody does orders something from me online because, like I said, it's, it's just me. I'm just doing it. And I'm going to have to put a hold for a little bit on the whiskey vent and the halve an arrow because it's going, it's going out of date soon.

So I have to reorder and get more. But it will come back as soon as I can get it. So it's obviously not shelf stable. So what's your, like, what's your, what kind of timeline do you get from when you get it to your door to when you have to ship it? It's good for about a year. Well, legally, it's good for about a year and a half. Okay.

The boxes that I have left, I will share with friends and myself. Like, it's still good after that, but legally, I can't, I can't sign it. Gotcha, yeah. You can't really run like a crew exclusive and ship at clearance because you get still some asshole gets sick and sues you. You can't really, let's not do it. I mean, I could do that as long as they sign a waiver not to sue me. have anyone that needs some

want to hit some nice flavorful protein goals and yeah I'll sell it over like five bucks a bag well even regardless if you want the potentially aisle to date or new but you know just support a fellow crew we like

we like spotlight and crew own businesses you know it's you know it doesn't it's not free to own a business or run a business so we like to support people when we can no no code or anything thing. Can't really do too much of a discount for new products. I can't imagine. So your margins are probably to where you kind of got to make your... Well, and I do... Giving it away. Yeah. So I do... What I've been doing in the past couple of years, I do a

Memorial Day sale every year. And, uh, well, I say sale, but what I do is, uh, I just, I, it's, I charge full price, like full price to 1099, but I donate, um, a certain amount last year. I think I did $5 each bag. So basically a bag. ad costs 1099 and then whatever shipping is but i i donate five dollars to um the first year i did it um i sent it to oh shit i forget the guys's warriors or something yeah yeah well no it wasn't wounded warriors i thought there was a different one ah damn it i can't remember but it's a good military uh charity yeah it was going to a good military thing and then last year what i did It is, so my dad and my brother belonged to the Rotary Club of Eastern, and they started

the Flags for Heroes in Eastern Maryland. And what they've done over the last 10, 15 years, but the first year they did it, they got like $5,000 worth of donations. And then now up until last year, they've gotten over half a million dollars. worth of donations that goes towards veterans, first responders, J.ROTC, like guys, and they've even bought like working police dogs and stuff for the local police officers and stuff like that. So I donated the money to that last year.

So I think I'm going to go with that because it's my hometown. My dad started it, it's something I believe in. And then, yeah. Yeah, it sounds like a good cause of support for sure. Agreed. Yeah. And I'm going to, I'm hoping to do more of that over the years. Once I come out with a, I want to come out with those dog like, the, the, what was it,

puppets? The puppets. Pupperettes. I'm going to come out with a dog puppets. And I would love to do like collaborations with rest to use and stuff like that. Just, you know, it costs me a certain amount. And I'd. I'll just like I all I want to do is like I want to recoup my costs on that and then I can give the rest of the money to the rescue so that's that's kind of what I'm looking to do and then if somebody just buys it from me of course I'm under charge and full price but like if it's during one of these specials and stuff like that like I just if I'm doing it for that rescue I'm giving them all the money and I'm just like I want my you know whatever it is like five bucks or something like that and then they can have the rest of it.

That's incredible. Love to hear it. All right. Well, that's that's Big Braden, his story. Finding him one more time at where at? Meat and Muscles or at Meat and Muscles Barbecue and Meat Muscles Barbecue.com. Beautiful. Big Joey, where are you at? Joey underscore M-L-E-C-Z-K-O.

And we have an Instagram, unpaid, and underrated podcast. We got that very awesome website that Nate puts a lot of time in. It's Unpaid InternPodcast.com. go search any past guests that you want to find listen to their episodes we have as a hogan said it our year one had 52 weeks 52 guests pretty awesome and we're on episode 133 i think now we probably had a hundred and twenty five guests in that time so if there's a crew out there there's a one in four chance we've had him on the podcast no one in six seven we seven and we have the seven hundred damn the number keeps fucking growing um youtube there's all kinds of good content there and i am Keith Honeycutt 73. You can follow me on Instagram there. More importantly, go follow my orange gym, the no wine cellar. Until then, see you next Tuesday.