Unpaid And Underrated - 135 : The Big Judge (ft. Big Clayton)

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

This week Joey and Nate get to know Big Clayton. They dive right into great topics like straws, power outages, 3d printing, God of War, Crocks, and knives. Links Ü&Ü Hoodie (https://www.sellmytees.com/festrengthlab/store/product/u-u) Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Youtube @LifeOClayton (https://www.youtube.com/@LifeOClayton) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Clayton.

Well, actually, you know, if you want to associate it with me, it's the tear of my beer, my Hank William Singer. Oh, boy, Hank William Singer. You're crying for you, dear. You are on my lonely mind. Yep. Yeah, yeah. The night I walked the floor, and then the night before you were on my lonely mind. Yeah, put that all there.

I deal with this 24-7, guys. Yeah, that's great. Welcome back to the unpaid and underrated podcast. This is episode 200, 2000. I don't know, what number, 2014, maybe, I don't know, what am I big episode number? I forget the intro. I'm in charge of the intro. I'm never here. My name's Big Nate. I'm here. I'm the technical guy. They drew me in. Last minute, my power's out. I'm flustered. I don't know what's going on, but we're a podcast. It is by crew. I know that. And I know, you know what else it is? It is for crew. And that's you the listener. You are the crew. We are joined this week by no power or electricity at my home. But maybe at your home where you're listening, you have it. And well, you know who else you have? You have our good friend Big Joey in your ear. Hello, hello. Yeah, no power and still joins the podcast.

Hey, listen, I'm committed. If there's anything I am, I am committed to this podcast in a way that you would never even understand. I don't get paid enough for this. I'd just like to state that now. And also, we are joined by one and only, I believe, our youngest supporting member in the Masonomics, We're Not a Cult crew, Big Clayton.

Would you just say hello there, sir? Hey, hey, hello. Hello, hello. All right, I guess we move on to our next most featured segment. What are we wearing? Joey, you first. I have the unpaid and underrated sideways. I have the hoodie on, and underneath that, I forget.

Oh, I have the squats T on under this. It's just very cold in the house because my wife wants to preserve energy by making us all suffer. Oh, hey, I know all about a wife that wants to preserve energy. She got the whole power off to the house. That was so you couldn't podcast tonight. She was like, oh, you're going to heart here? She really didn't want me to be a part of this. And also, she didn't want any heat in the house when it's like 14 degrees outside.

It's great. Yeah, the squats. Hey, Joey, I'm unsure. Does that come in like a pool over and zip up? We haven't been clear about that. I just for the listeners. I mean, we were really clear. It's just some people weren't listening.

okay the unpaid and underrated hoodie does come in zip up and pull over um and honestly that was by my request it was originally only supposed to be a zip up and then i said no thank you and it turns out that the hoodie version was the same cost so here we are look at that who would have thought listening would would give you that kind of information big clayton uh what are what are you wearing i see a little little red peeking up there tell us a little bit about that that handy little dandy you got there Unpaid and underrated shirt And under that I got on the pants

He is wearing the Masanomics released Unpaid and Underrated shirt That was a collaboration Between Tanner Tommy and ourselves Really great shirt Only three spots left Which I don't think is far off from the truth

So No, it's never been more true Yeah Honestly I don't know North, South, East, West Not even as true is there's only three spots left of that shirt, you better move quick.

I am wearing, just got it out of the dryer, freshly washed, freshly delivered today by the whatever UPS stands for. I don't actually know what that stands for. I know U.S. You got in parcel service? Oh, that one's the United States parcel service. Yeah, postal service.

I don't think we'd say fancy words like parcel in America. Oh. But I don't know what UPS. The UPS guy, he dropped it off. I have my long-sleeve massonomics, comfort colors, you can see it by the light of my flashlight podcasting by Candlelight tonight. How exciting. Massonomics Apparel Company, long-sleeve tea.

This thing is awesome. I was so excited to get this in that I had to wash it immediately. I had to get the tanner juices off of it. No farts on this shirt. That's where your power went. It went to auction all your Masonomics. That's true. We did a lot of laundry. Took out the whole neighborhood.

It's all gone. All right, Clayton, you keep popping this thing up on the screen. I got, I gotta know. What the heck are you drinking? Okay. Is that me? Is that me? No, it's not you.

I can say it might be. It looks also similar, but I got a pre-perer for my birthday. And I thought, have you ever played video games? Yes. In general or a specific one? A specific one, God is more. Yeah, that's Cratos. That's me.

and that's Kratos and it can hold energy drinks that can hold with the adapter salt cans I've got a Coke in here right now Oh man that's neat You had a Coca-Cola this time of night And I'm crazy

Yeah you are crazy That's insane I have Joey Are you drinking out of yourself tonight You're just out of a regular cup No, I just have a Coors original. In Canada, it's not banquet.

It's Coors original. Yeah, and then I've got a nice cranberry bubbly waiting for me. That's my treat. Oh, cranberry. Fancy. Nate, are you just drinking anything? Anything you can find because it's so dark. Listen, I had to kill a bear, and I'm drinking its blood tonight. No, I got my handy-dandy O'Wala water bottle

stickered with unpaid and underrated. That's good sticker. That's what we're doing. Just pure H2O that I actually got at Chipotle. So this is Chipotle water because I filled up my water bottle while we were there eating dinner. So that's pretty big. I feel like that's a step above just regular tap water.

But yeah, that's what I'm drinking. I could have had a sparkling water, but I'm afraid to open the fridge because we could be without power forever. can't, can't risk ruining all the other sparkling waters in the fridge. I wouldn't want them to spoil. I can't wait for the power to come on halfway through this and your life to just change. I can't wait to see your face as it happens. Oh, you can see my face.

See this flashlight? Look, we can go really, we could go really bright, but then it won't last very long. Look at how bright. We could just, I can't see anything out of my eyes. Yeah, that's awful. Turn that right off. Yeah. Oh, gosh.

Oh, yeah. They're nice, nice and calm there. For all our audio listeners. and the candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long um so this week's episode was the gifts episode

where they talked about the gifts for or the massonomics episode sorry where they talked about the gifts for the gym owner right was that this week I should have prepared for this yeah in between the backlog and and you know life being upside down

this is where Keith... Man, that was this week. That feels like six months ago that episode is. Holy cow. Normally Keith does this. Dagum, that was this week, Joey? Oh, man.

That's insane. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. Best Home Gym Gifts for Small Creators. Did you guys get a chance to listen? I did. I mean, I listened. Obviously, I forgot all of it because apparently happened this weekend.

I thought that was like a month ago. Yeah, I listened. left out of, they forgot Bremi. I saw that in the Discord. That was, that was earth shattering or soul crushing. I don't know, one of the two. I love, listen, I love a good episode where you can just get a list of things that you can buy. Um, and then I can go and buy it all, especially with an affiliate code to, uh, to help the boys out. Yeah. Uh, and a lot of the ones they don't have codes for, we do. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I love using code. codes are my, I mean, I code for a living. So, like, when people give me the opportunity to use codes

and other options and other avenues, I, you know, I'll take that any day. Okay, so if you had to give it a rating, Nate, what's your rating? Oh, I would say easily, five out of five, I wish I had powers right now. Clayton, have you ever to give this? Power and Associate Awards, I don't know. This episode that you didn't listen to, but you wanted to give it five out of five, what would you give it? Five out of five? Great answer. That'll work.

Yep, that's perfect. I'll give it a five out of five code unpaid. Quick update to anybody listening. Strongman is sold out. Sorry. It was supposed to go public tomorrow. It sold out before it went public. So Strongman for the Lipped Hard Live Easy is sold out.

We will not be... Sold out within hours. Yeah, like it was no time at all. So if you're planning on signing up, you can do is get on the wait list. Powerlifting will open probably a couple days after this releases. Obviously, if you're in the

Discord, you are aware of some of the back and forth with the power lifting through the old director and the possible new director. So if you are going to get involved in the power lifting for Lift Hard, Live Easy, it will open probably a day

or two after this releases. I will not get into that drama. Yeah, because I don't... Got all that happened, too. Yeah. As I've said, I do not engage in bozo stuff. So I will not be discussing any of that. And, well, the power's on.

There's his face. Amen. Oh, boy. Hot dog. Look at this, guys. I got lights in my house. What a novel idea. Hallelujah.

Hallelujah. And he said, let there be light. praise God all right yeah his phone is freezing that's it that's my sign to sign off see you guys later yeah bye

I'm sure he'll be back in a minute and um Keith's gym tour came out today Clayton did you get a chance to watch that of the no wine cellar no no okay it's a good one I've been there I've lifted there it's a good gym it's a really good gym tour

if you get a chance to check it out check it out they did surprise him They didn't tell him he was coming. It's the first time they've ever done that to anybody. So that was really interesting. They just kind of showed up at his door and said, hey, we're here for a gym tour. And you get to see Keith have an aneurysm in person.

It was really fun to watch. So go ahead and check that out. Moving on, we'll just jump into our affiliates. I guess I have to do my own, which is obsidian ammonia. Clinton, have you ever used ammonia? No. I'm wanting to convince my dad to buy some, but no, I have not used them on you. No, you don't need it. And then you've got your plate snacks where you can get your custom gym stickers. You can get some gym customizations, you know, put them on your plates, put them on your end caps, put them on all that kind of stuff.

They do banners, the unpaid and underrated banner is available there. And belt fed strength, where if you want to get handmade leather lifting equipment, It is all there. Use code unpaid at all of those guys. I don't know if any of those give us a kickback, but I can tell you that they do save you at least 10 to 15%. So, we're going to move on to that sponsor read we talked about earlier. Clayton, is there anything you want to say about Massonomics within about 60 seconds?

Yeah. When I was at the Arnold, that was the first time I ever really got in the lifting. They were one of the biggest reasons I left modern days. So they were that nice to you. Yes, I loved it. Yes, they are amazing dudes. My friend Steve, I don't know if you've happened to hear about him, but he wasn't into Masonomics until we went to the Arnold and he joined crew about a month later. Because I introduced him to Tanner and Tommy, so I just can say I've personally seen what you're saying.

Why you join? That's why I joined too. Well, we're glad you're here. Um, let's get our guest on the horn. Big Clayton, is that you? Yeah. Hey, welcome. You're live and unpaid and underrated.

We're, we're just going to jump in. We don't want to miss any of the gold. So we're just going to jump in to ask a couple questions. We have some standard questions that we ask everybody. If you don't want to answer, don't answer. If you don't have an answer, just let me know. Excuse me. I ate an entire half of pizza for dinner.

So I naturally have heartburn. Okay. So Nate had no power, and I have Incredible Harbourn. So, tell us who you are. I know you're kind of in the Discord, or at least somebody is on your behalf. You have an avatar. And I don't think you're on Instagram, are you? But if you want to let people know where to find you at all, you're allowed to do that.

Good to know. Good to know. Nick, did you want to... Are you able to just join us for a second and let us. know who you are on Discord if we wanted to contact you or Clayton? Yeah, we're on Discord. We both have a problem to make a big Clayton. And he's got a... What's your email address?

Platon.O.A.H.CardGimbao.com? I understand you. Clayton.h.corder at gmail.com. Outstanding. That's what... getting there's quite and so that we're all right that works for us um i know you kind of just gave the uh the answer there

but did you know tanner and tommy before you went to the arnold like did you know about massanomics no the old one of the reasons we went to the arnold was because dad really wanted to meet the host of this podcast he watched well if we went there we met tanner and tommy he made me get on this tank top and go they're getting a picture and they were super nice and we bought a bunch of merch and we just had a lot of fun it was just a fun experience

with them you could say and that's what brought you to massonomics do you listen regularly or uh do you watch regularly or do you I listen sometimes when I'm lifting every time I lift I watch do the methodomics or I'm paying underrated

that's one of the two there's I've never heard a greater statement in my life yeah that's that's the episode title right there but when i left i was a hard i he cliton when i come down lift and he looked at a spot um he probably thought some forward work i took a picture of him with the podcast plant background yeah and nick when you talk if you could do a huge favor and just move that microphone a little closer to the front that would be incredible uh we're just picking up both Clayton's microphone and yours at the same time.

So if you could just kind of hold that in front of you like this when you talk, I might be able to pick you up a little better. I got you. Does that mean better? Oh, absolutely. A hundred times better. Okay. Obviously, Clayton, bit young.

Why don't you tell us the state you're from? Kentucky. All right. Are you? Oh, Burma State. Will you be at Home GymCon? Yes. Oh, that's awesome

Oh, man. Yes. Big Keith and Yeah, I met Big Keith when What were we doing? We were going up to a booth And he was right there And next day, go get a picture with that guy

I'm like, okay, so I got a picture with him And it was just like, I want to say A month after that one And I actually realized who he was So I'm just slowly catching up that's my favorite go get a picture with that guy and i could just picture keith being like uh okay well the the best part is i'd take away from this to the Clayton you're just good kid because your dad said to do something you did it like i can't get that like nine times out of

ten so that's that's pretty good on you bud it was not that Clayton had met Tanner so Tanner gave Clayton a sticker with Big Keith's head. And so he kind of recognized that too. That's handy. That helped him obey me. I mean, I wish we had more stickers with people's heads on them, honestly. Yeah, I do think. Go ahead, Clayton.

He said, go find this man, so me and Dick were all to search the whole time we were there for a bold man with a weird beard. so even saying that was fun. I know, my kids recognize him, right? So I'll just be like, who's this? And they're like, Keith, and they've met him. But, like, that might have been a year or so ago. So I just wonder if they met him again,

if they would clue in that the sticker is him, right? That's pretty funny. I just, I really enjoy the fact that, like, you could just be walking around the Arnold being like, have you seen this man and you're holding up? He's like, Clayton's the Terminator. Have you seen this boy? Have you seen this man?

Have you seen him? That would be great. So I guess it's been what? About a year since you've been following Massonomics or two years since you've been following about a year since you joined the Discord, right? For Clayton, it's been about, right after Home Jump Con would join the Discord.

I think... Arnold was that time. Was it, was it the last year, Arnold, the one that I wasn't at? Yes. Yes. Okay. And I also wasn't at. Yes.

So then my question would be, is there a piece of Massanomics merchandise that you've seen us wearing that you wish you owned, Clayton? That hoodie. Which one? The one you just had on. I'm paying down to write his hoodie. I can help you find out how to get that. I'll write Santa a lawyer. Yeah.

Okay. If Santa knows I live pretty far up north. I'm sure I can put in the word. Yeah. As you can see, my beard is going white, so I will be Santa probably within the next couple of years. It's Tim Allen over there. Yeah, it is.

I call it the closeting all the time. And I'm like, what are you going to do about it? And I'm like, grow it white and volunteer for sick kids. Like, what would you do with a long white beard? do you know what the Hall of Fame is Clayton No but I'm assuming it's a hall with a bunch of people's pictures who are famous I would agree that's a good answer So Massanomics does have a Hall of Fame

It's a little card where you checkmark about 15 things And if you do 12 of those things you get your silly pint If you do 15 of them you get a jacket So I'm guessing you don't have your Hall of Fame card yet I will tell you you just earned a check mark by being on our podcast so you at least

I know you have at least two check marks because you've been to the Arnold and you've been on our podcast either do you know Nick does he have any other check marks yeah I don't remember if there's certain about purchases or something part of it

yeah 10 purchases maybe he's probably yeah I made a shout out to I don't shout out the wrong word

I hate people say that I said it um kiln that makes the the brushes for the barbell that's part of

the crew yeah he is actually who told us what crew was that home jump got killed down

we didn't know especially and we probably would have gone before yeah I never really interested

with that one like oh so it's So Barbaugh rescue is to blame And I followed one of those scrubbers We got a wall of stickers

Huge Huge So you have a wall of stickers That's huge Yeah Oh Well for me it is But yeah

No no I Are they're bigger when you're young Yeah now that you've been on this podcast I can go show y'all Okay field trip joey i got stickers i'm here my my uPS up here i've got some back here i've got keith i've got my gym i've got unpaid underrated i've got the dodds trading card we won't talk about what that one is

i got i got this is sitting up there you see this see this little thing little little crew card no we can't see it your camera keeps cutting it off okay yeah oh i love it Okay, okay, let me say I thought there's a good way to do this, so Yes, look at all of those That is a big wall Certified big wall

I'll approve it A Another one over there And a Another one Over there Love it Ah, the Vivala stool

I got a stoolie in the house as well I see Hunter says he saw himself Love it Hunter's on there Yeah, we got a bunch of... I actually got one. I got a sticker printer, so I printed

a couple if I could find the worst camera angle from the Arnold. I don't know who the heck that guy is, but that, my first ever interaction was Tanner and Tommy. Mm-hmm. That was that.

Yeah, I saw that in the YouTube video. Okay. So is your gym certified, Clayton? Do you have a certified training facility? Certified, messing off certified. Yes. Okay, what's the gym name? I'll stick that.

Carter's home gym. Oh, I love it. Do you have a logo? Well, it sounds like Clayton and his sticker machine have something to do there. Yeah, he's basically plate snack's greatest competitor now. Use code Clayton at Clayton Stickers.com. One of the things you might not be privy to is we all have a sticker exchange between all of the home gyms. So we all designed logos.

We all made up creative names just like yours. And we exchanged stickers through the mail. So if you can get a sticker, I am sure there's going to be a ton of people that would love to send you one. or you can send us one. Nick, if you're in the Discord and you want to get involved in that sticker exchange, all you're going to do is just put it out there

and people will send you stickers all from all over the world. Yeah, we perceive some nice sticker-wise from Kentucky crew so we need to probably get on that much of you guys and buy it's a big logo. Well, we can get you involved in that

at any time. so then you said your teacher called you and asked you what is this and that's actually one of the questions we ask every person on this podcast how did you explain unpaid and underrated to anybody that asked why you were on this podcast what i originally said to my own teacher was i met these two nice guys at the arnold and since then i would slowly drive that's just the easiest way to explain it and she thought I was crazy but yeah and then you didn't have to explain our podcast about their podcast no no I didn't really know

to be honest I haven't watched your podcast has as much as I want to actual massinomics if you're gonna hate me for that no that's fine that's fine I gotta be honest there I have not watched but like two episodes

in the past month I'd say so Hey that's 50% So that's not that bad Yeah You're doing all right And considering how much We swear and say

Very awful things on here I don't blame you My mom can hear the things y'all said No No no no no no It is not It is not mom friendly And honestly

Really, at two episodes in the last month, you listen more than Tommy does. Yeah, you got that one. Eating out Tommy. That works. That's my Keithism for the week. When my mom says, what's your podcast about? I just simply go, don't worry about it. Just don't worry about it.

Nate, would you love to get into a game here? I have a game, except I've been slowly working on preparing the game. But I do have, I have a game. I have a game. It's called Least Fun Most Fun. And you have listened to 50% of the episodes within the last month. It is a stated known fact about you. And I was curious, Big Clayton, for the teachers at home,

do you quite know what that game is or how you might explain it to someone? I don't know anything about this game. All right, well, don't worry because we have professionals here at the Unpaid and Underrated podcast that can explain to you the logistics and the concept of least fun, most fun. So you're in great luck. And also in luck, it is me. I am the professional. Even though I do say I'm not a professional at this point, we'll allow the statement to be true.

So the game, least fun, most fun. It's very complex. there's a lot of rules but i will put it uh simply this way uh your goal i will give you a topic or a prompt and you are to give me the least fun thing about that and then also this is where it gets tricky the most fun thing about that um so you know there a lot of ground to cover uh on these topics but i think uh i think with the the diet coke or the regular coke uh running through your system you'll be you'll be ready to go um yeah so um least fun most fun big clayton uh pocket knives

least one thing about them is i cut my finger and i got stitches and it was the the first stitch of my life and i about kill myself just because of that i hated it i He didn't. Getting stitches? Oh, no. The pocket knife issue, I was opening a bag of Legos with the pocket knife. It snits my finger deep. And I had to go by my grandpa because he's a doctor.

He says, oh, God, get stitches. I'm like, oh, good well, man. So what we actually do? He's like, I'm serious. I'm like, oh. So I was just out of doubt. Not ready for that. No, I've been there.

I, uh, when I was younger, I fell on the show. hour and busting my chin open and had to get stitches and I was not hype about that. I know the sentiment. The first stitches are always the, the scariest. But once you get it once, you're like, good to go and you can just get infinite stitches. So the amount of times, I'm a big, pocket knife guy. I got, we got knives over here. Got a, we got a little Kershaw skyline right here, fixed blade. I guess it's, I mean, you can kind, it's a pocket knife, but not really. We got all kinds of knives. So I'm a big knife guy. You got to be careful, though. You got to be

careful with knives. They're tools, not toys. I always, that's why I tell my children. Tools, not toys. Careful of them. So that's the least fun thing, yes. The least fun is dicing yourself open. But what's the most fun thing about about, I almost said Legos, but we're talking about pocket knives.

What's the most fun thing about pocket knives? You're opening Legos with the pocket knives. What's the most fun thing? Whittling. Don't think I'm done with Red Scouts? And they said, bring a pocket knife, so we brought a pocket knife and we got to whittle wood and soap and

all this stuff, it was pretty fun. Okay. Well, I want to say whittling. I actually have input on that. So I'm also a big pocket knife guy. I always have a knife at all times, and it was just because one day I had to open a case of water and I didn't have one. I had to ask somebody

for one, and it was frustrating. But I also have a whittling knife. Do you have a whittling knife? No Oh, okay So it is Pretty much a standard Pocket knife

Only it is sharper Than all get out Which is great if you have a history Of losing your finger Yeah, I know It just makes it way easier to do that Because I bought that thinking It was just a really fun

Wooden Handle Pocket Knife But no, it's the sharpest knife In my repertoire So I almost never pull it out Well you know Attatch they might have one When my great grandma died about a month ago, I want to say, my friend got me this pocket knife, and I was checking it out and slipped.

And I cut myself, y'all can't see it, but I got myself down my nose. There's a skull there eternally. There is a skull where I cut myself in my nose and stabbed in there. Were you smelling the knife? Yeah, what are you doing with the knife that it got your nose, dude? No, I was looking at it, and I wanted to see the bull. They had looked like it was rusty. So I was holding it up to the, like, kind of cleaning it on my fingers.

And it kind of slips and drops, and I'm kind of trying to catch it. And it goes a hole into my nose. So that might have been a whittling knife. Yeah, those things are sharper than the lay knives. Yeah, they about, I thought it was going to hit my eye for a second. Of course. I'm glad it didn't. What kind of stuff did you whittle in Cub Scouts?

I was also a Cub Scout in my early year, so kind of, hearing on that one, but what kind of stuff are you whittling? Last time we did it was about a year ago. The only thing I remember doing was the soap and we made a snowman. But I feel like we did some more stuff. That's all right.

But I can't say what. I am not positive in any ways. That's okay. So then you're going to get my game. It's a game that I invented and I ask everybody that's on this podcast. And I have two

versions of this. So if you don't like the first one, I'll ask you the second one. How's that sound? That works great. Okay. Have you ever competed in weightlifting? No. Okay. So let's say in this example, you're about to go for your biggest lift. What's your favorite lift? Leg press. Okay. So you're about to go for the biggest leg press you can think of, and you can choose one person to hype you up to hit the biggest leg press you can think of. Who is that person. And they can be alive, dead, or fictional. Savannah Davils.

She is, I never dated her, but she has slapped me and has punched me in the face before and I have found your finger off one time. Savannah David. Who is this?

Yeah, who is this? I go to a Christian school by the way, so this I don't go for my reputation but Savannah Okay She's one of my classmates I just say she's in sixth So she's just

Of all girls They want me dead Let me tell you It's It's pitiful how This economy works You can say I don't know

I've always said that I've always said that Okay So I've got a nickname here for you Where does it come from? Can you, can you think of it? I got two of them. I want to say, one's clay and one's muscles.

Oh, yeah, muscles is on there, but it wasn't the one I was thinking. I got Big Dog. Yeah, who calls you Big Dog? Nick, he used to call me Big Dog, but after I got in the way, he now calls me Muscle. Okay. Who calls you Judge? Nick, why do you do this to me?

Oh, geez, okay. Judge, I used. used to go to my dad went to court cases and I got really good friends with all of these judges because of it like one time I really went up and had a cup of tea with the judge

I was really good friends with the judges tea drinking tea so they said you guys these British judges I guess the same thing they named me judge over that well I've been coffee for all I know I mean with the judge a little bit

um it he knew right off what i did for a living and a Jewish family what's then so when he was about four years old or five he was he wasn't a person mixed in my hand

and it called a lot of our all right okay I love it I love it I might stick to big dog because that's the judge

just sounds heavy yeah yeah that was like man Like, you ain't messing with Judge. Yeah, go by the barbecue place. They won't be like, hey, Judge, how you doing? They got to go to Big Judge now. You've been on a page underrated.

Dude, Big Judge ain't nothing to mess with. Let me tell you. You think Big Dog, something? Big Judge, dude. Someone's like, hey, yo, Savannah's going to be like, hey, Big Judge. And like. Okay. Savannah, she calls me Clean Holiday.

Why? That's what. she calls me i'll understand women man listen for the rest of your life you'll just be like man i i don't get it it just it's part of i want to but i yeah i loved you it'd be great if i could but you know someday hope to be a part of this world yeah um so i have a little bit of your history of lifting and i do want to ask about that if that's okay um but i'd rather in your own words um how did it start how is it going, and what's next? Originally, it was my, if my dad might not like me saying this,

he went overseas with the army. And I say to his mother's a lot, so I was in my grandmas, and I asked her like pretty quick after she left if I can go to the basement to check it out because that's where my uncle lives sometimes. And he had this big gym, and I just love going down there, I did bench, I did deadlift, I did all these things, and just felt so fun to do it. And then when Nick gets home, let's say, man, you got to get me into weightlifting. He says, okay, so we do this and that, go to the Arnold, we get real big on it, and now it's just going great.

So what's next for you for weightlifting? Are you going to keep going? Are you going to maybe pick a direction of a particular style? Like, what style of lifting do you do now? power lifting strong man CrossFit Like what are you doing Hydrox or your big Hydrox guy

Big Hirox guy Or high rock whatever it is I don't know what that is No one does don't worry Yeah it's okay Okay so I used to do Monday Wednesday and Friday But now I do Tuesday and Thursday Tuesday

I do swap bench and deadlift And I do a bunch of that Then Thursday I just pick one And the next week's Thursday and I pick the other and the other and rotate. So over the course of three weeks, I do them all six times heavy sets. Okay. So it sounds like you're powerlifting then.

That's what I like to say. Yes. Yeah, it sounds like you're doing a power lifting program if you're sticking to the SBD. So good work. Do you ever plan on competing? Maybe. I don't know. That's okay.

I just thought I'd put it out there and ask the question. He is stronger than Eddie Howell, son. I won't say more on that. I won't get out of that. Let's dodge that smoke. I know I mentioned my friend Steve, his daughter is only 16, and she is a competitor already. So, you know, your age won't hold you back.

Neither should your lifts. if you ever want to get on the platform any of us here can give you any information or any advice that you need okay that's all that stuff and now I recent

oh yeah we're going to lift hard and Ev easy 4 you're going to be the Lift Hard Live Easy look at that I'm jealous I don't know about that he just said put that out there so I don't know oh typically in our podcast playing

that is in our vacation plan it's true we're going to then we're going to whatever you call it the Dakota Aberdee whatever you want to call The Dean You're going to the Dean Dude are you going to hit on storybook land

Sure From what Tanner explained to me about storybook land I honestly almost went there instead of the power lifting meet so They got like go carts and Bumper boats and all that Sounds like a time the writer from the Wizard of Oz is from Aberdeen right so that's what yeah that's when you get there it's black and white but after you stay there long enough it does turn to color so I can confirm I was there a crazy long time the last time I was there it happened yeah I did get a gift from you and I wanted to say I appreciate it yeah yes the key chain but I understand you do a lot more of that so tell me about

about what you're doing with that? If you don't know me, I run a small business called CCC, Clayton Carter Coat, Clayton Croc Charm, it varies. I sell a big range of things. I sell Iron Man versions of these. I sell the Rock Crook Charms. I sell spurs for Crocs. I sell a bunch of different things,

mainly around just useful in Crocs. So, catch me in there. also sell this one thing, which is a girl in my school outy, she really likes it. It's called the Snackety. And it's like chopsticks for her finger, so you can work right down. You can also be

using them to eat. And she said, make longer versions for Pringle Can, so I did that. Oh my gosh, she loves them. So are they like, so you said this is called the Snackety? That's what I don't

really know what did general name is. I think it got in Shark Tank one time. I saw file on 9. I said, I need to print this. Okay, so it's like giant tweezers, essentially? Essentially,

it's like tweezers. But then on the bottom, add these little ring type things, but not their, they're not rings, they're half circles. And they go in between your knuckles. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

So you're probably just eating So you could like So if you're working So they like kind of like stick up like a Wolverine claw And then While you're typing on your computer You don't want to get Cheeto dust everywhere Yeah you keep her fingers clean

That's what the goal of the whole thing is When I'm upstairs in my office working I don't like have a bow of chips I'll explain more on that later I have it like a bowl of chips I'll just go with there be eating up writing out this, editing this, eating, eating, eating, eating, doing this, eating, eating, eating, doing this. It's so fun, just to not get your heads dirty and ruin that favorite keyboard of yours.

That's a big problem, is dirty keyboards. Oh, it's a huge problem, Joey. And if you use code unpaid at CCC, we haven't quite got the official name yet, it changes sometimes.com, you can get your own snackity. I don't have a dot com yet. Oh, okay. Well, we'll work on that. making. We got, okay, you email me at custom

creations.com custom creations k.wai.com at gmail.com. Geez, Nick, help me out here. He made this the other night. K-Y at gmail.com.

Customcreations, K-Y at g-mell.com. Kentucky. Shout out. The state. Man, the snack the crock what you guys call them giblets over there

gibbets I like to say crock charms because every time my school wears crocs and the younger kids I go to a private school so all the kids

are rich you could say apparently so these younger kids I can just talk to their parents and convince them to buy and I do donate profits to a Wounded Warrior Association

and homes for our troops so not all profits go to me Some go to charity, some something to this, I'm going to that. Quite diversified there. That's good. I like that. Are you familiar with taxes?

Do you have any state, any, any, uh, any, uh, I'm not under an LLC, so no. He's a, he's a, um, because some people call me a mafia man. I don't, is it. Some people, they call big judge a mafia, man. I don't want to, I'm afraid. I don't know if I should be on this call. Yeah, this is slowly becoming. the most imposing podcast

I've ever recorded. I got this business. They call me Big Judge. Taxes forget about it. You didn't hear anything. My teachers call me, okay? I tell them what's up. Big Clayton's terrifying.

I'm not going to lift. I can't go to the Lift Hard Live Easy Four, but I'm not going now. I'm terrified. Clayton will come. Big Judge will come for me. Get me with a snackety. Yeah.

That's cool. He's like the one slur, man He's gonna make a A theed Take NATO back and give him a snackity You know what I'm saying? Yeah Let's talk about

A few of the things that apparently you like And As somebody who hasn't listened to this podcast I will probably get made fun up For bringing this up But you watch wrestling Yes My dad

Love to watch wrestling thing in night. Back in the day, we used to every Monday night when I was like six before he had a back issue. I'm going to tell a story about that a second. Before he did that, we used to always have a Monday diet raw, you could say, on the guest bedroom. And oh, my gosh, he would flip my neck, twisted over his shoulder, and sling me to the ground on the bed. It was so much fun. I still have a palm of my neck. jeez um so i get made fun of a lot for talking about wrestling on this podcast um more than anything else but it's because i am also a huge wrestling nerd so i was going to ask you who

your favorite wrestler is it's hard to say but i personally like the undertaker wow okay and he's been gone for quite a while i know but it's when i was younger i just loved watching him carry the urn on that was just the big hit of it so that would be that would be your era of Undertaker not the American badass or

the dead man no I want the undertaker who came in there the big robe and a cowboy hat holding the urn and about to stick the ashes everywhere that's the Undertaker I like yeah the purple glove Undertaker is what we would refer to him as

okay yeah I like the purple glove do you like anybody model turn. Yeah, you so maybe. If you want to call him, Walter, I don't really. Well, he is. He's still around.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, if we had more time, I would get out my big expanse of wrestling stuff above me. I have every, I have every Bray Wyatt mask. Wow.

I actually have Bray Wyatt's, The Feen tattoos, the hurt and heel on my knuckles. Oh, wow. Actually, you know what? I think you'll appreciate this. I will get you these for a second. Nate, give me like a minute of time.

A minute. So here's the fun thing. I know nothing about wrestling, not a darn thing. See, my parents, when I was growing up, Clayton, my parents said it was too violent, and I wasn't allowed to watch wrestling. If you're watching this and you don't know this yet, shut your ears. You're going to hate me. It's all scripted.

I don't get what they're scared about. what it's scripted it's all scripted I learned that the hard way when Nick lied to me he said I thought he I thought he lied to me

by saying it was scripted I'm about cry my pants off I don't joke so it is scripted but I'm telling you a suplex hurt I've always said that

yeah yeah the outcrupted the same as an unscripted exactly So, just to give, sorry to bore all of the non-visual watchers. I do have the original black sheep mask, which is the Bronze Dorman mask. I have two of the original Eric Rowan masks, which go really good with my beard, as you can imagine. This one might be before your time.

This is the original gold diced mask That's Darth Mall, don't be lying That's gold dust, my friend That's Cody's brother By the way, gold dust Yeah, it's Cody Rhodes' brother This one is my piece de la resistance This is a full latex fiend mask

That's probably gonna be a nightmare Aide, sorry, buddy Way to go, way to go, Joey My kids used to be afraid of it No, they're not anymore because I've explained who the fiend is and what he, what he represents. And I even have the Uncle Howdy mask. Oh, wow. Yeah.

And that's just like some of it. There's a whole slew of it in the basement. So, wrestling nerd over here, my friend. Good to know. I went to the SummerSlam 2020. I think, maybe in Vegas. The funniest part of it all is, though, when we were there, I wanted to go get a Donut from the recession stand

So Nick said he would go get me a donut Well they were about to run out So they gave us like three, four boxes to spool of donuts They were going to throw out And my grandma Nanny if you're watching this I'm sorry To spoil you she ate almost all of them

I want to say Oh no She ate a bunch But funny story about Clayton's grandma At that trip On the way out she said Nick, I need to know

Do you think Goldberg's really hard? She's a crazy person, let me tell you. Give me a second. Nate, I have a game. Yeah, you want to jump into a game? I have a game I want to play. Yeah. Clayton's excited.

So, on my way to said Chipotle, as earlier stated by my water. I was working through preparing for this show. And if you don't know, Clayton, I have three children of my own. Working on a fourth right now is cooking. And I asked them if they were here, they were on the podcast,

what questions they might have for you. So you might know that, that our podcast is by crew for crew. Well, this segment is by kids for kids. Well, there you go. So my son Theo, he's only six. So he's like half your age. So the questions are half as good.

I don't know. But he's got some questions. He wants to run through his. The best question he had was, what is your name? which I just think is hilarious. Because, like, do you have questions for Clayton? He's like, yeah, what's his name?

So, yeah, there you go. Clayton. All right, first question, I'll make sure he gets that one. That one was, I knew that one would be a stumper. His second question to you in the buy kids, four kids, unpaid and underrated segment, sponsored by Big Keith. Do you have a pet? No.

No pet. wanting one we are adding onto the house right now so my dad and mom said that when that's done we might get a dog oh so i'm laying until october next year okay octobering dog heard chef um now this wasn't a question from theo this is a question for me so we're we're sidestepping the segment just to be clear um for sponsorships and and all of that stuff um what kind of dog i had the same question in my head I got to know. Yeah, I got to know. They're, all I know, our neighbors had at one time, like, 50 dogs.

Fifty dogs? Fifty dogs? Hey, the mother loved them. So listen, the one dog I would want is what they had, it was something mixed with a poodle. It was really small. You want a small kind of guy. It was a golden doodle mate. It's a really small, really active.

She will bite the living heck out of you, by the way. but it was a really small really good brown dog and I just always thought if I had to have a dog I will want her would you want 50 of them is that why you're expanding the house

also what was appealing the biting or the it'll bite the heck out of you you know that's what I love about dog dog star but

show your dog's going to oh if y'all can see it oh I don't know it's on this side You see that kind of indent? Is that from that dog that you want? No, that's from another dog.

A bulldog who died because of my blood, so people like to stay because it died not long after. It bent me there. And don't even, I don't want you to even bother asking. Where? Can you see? I'm not to fall off, but can y'all see that? Yes.

Yeah, don't even bother asking where the heck that came from. I won't. I won't. I won't ask. you so big judge is dodging taxes and killing bulldogs with his own blood i love this again most imposing podcast i think i've been on yeah we've we've interviewed retired military tank drivers and i'm more afraid of big judge um all right so 50 dogs small brown bite your face off got it i'll report that back um His next question was, do you play Minecraft?

You know, not currently, but I used to play a bunch of Minecraft. I got a friend who does if he wants to rent. I got them. Okay, all right. I got a bunch of people who do. All right. We'll connect. We'll take that offline.

I'll have my people talk to your people. We'll set that up. That's great. Degu-d-d-d-g-a. His last question. Um, was, do you have Legos? Hi. I go. Oh, you don't want to know. I got a shelf.

I want to say the size of the wall behind me, full a Lego. Oh, my. It is huge. Nick might have a picture. You always take pictures of my bedroom sometimes. He might have a picture on his phone. But I just used to. adore them. After I got the

past 5 for my son's birthday, I just got on that, but I used to love that. My boy... Expanding on to the house to add more leg of... I know that feeling. Both my kids,

I put, I put a huge table in their bedroom in proportion of their bedroom is way too large. And it is just... And I put in shelves because their youngest brother, we'll just come in and, like, take the Lego set and just throw it on the ground, which isn't great. And so I was like, table, shelves, and just all of it is just full.

And I'm like, I don't, we need an expansion on the house because I just don't know where to put all of these Legos. I will say I'm in the same boat. My wife loved Legos as a kid, so she got ours into Legos and just keeps buying more and more Legos. My daughter just got a Gabby's Dollhouse Lego set. She is four. I, on the other hand, despise Legos because who's

on them, dad. And as much as I say, no, they stay in the playroom where you're a giant table with walls, a giant table that has walls built into it, is for your Legos. No, I need them in the living room, so. Yeah. Have Legos will travel. I've always said that. Yeah, apparently, Legos also travel without, I don't know, just.

Legos are a big thing, man, and I would love to see the walls. Lego Walmart This year Oh, I got a hack Before I got out of Legos My grandparents and friends bought me I want to say 12 sets of Lego boxes

Full of Legos So I took some to Walmart Week by week every Sunday and Wednesday In return to one time They said you do this again You're getting sued so we had to stop And now we're back on there and I've made well over $500, maybe $600 even, just by doing that.

So thank you to everybody who bought me a NgoSit. You're greatly appreciated. Is that what got you at the PlayStation? Oh, of course. No, he nicked it. Did you tell him that you know the judges and suing would do them no good? Do they, excuse me, I am big judge. You can't sue.

Do you know who you're talking to? Okay. Uh, how do you feel about jumping into... FMK or whatever it's called? We will not be calling it that. We will not be calling it that for your sake, my God. Yeah, I don't want to do that. Um, well, we have...

Mom gave me the sign-eye when I said that. So we have three games that we like to do. We've played so many games. We have infinite games. We do have infinite games. Uh, we do have infinite games. Uh, we do have infinite games. Uh, we do have have the Mount Rushmore, we have the Tickle Mary should we do Tickle Mary Kill

Tickrary Kickout and then we have unpaid and underrated so I'm going to do a Mount Rushmore So I want to know you with Mount Rushmore Do you know what the Mount Rushmore game is? Have you seen this? Have you heard about this? I can't remember That's okay. I'm going to say that. Do you know what Mount Rushmore is in real

life. Yes. It's somewhere in South Dakota where they have four presidents, heads and cars, and they try to make the bodies, but the guy died before him. Yep. Okay. There you go. Nailed it. Yeah. Better than anybody else, that's explained it, actually. Yeah. What I'm going to do is I'm going to say your Mount Rushmore of the following, and the idea is if you were to carve these things into a mountain, okay, which ones would you choose? So I am going to ask you of Your Mount Rushmore of Star Wars characters.

It would have to be in the front would be Luke, Leia, Han, and Yoda. They're going to get mad at not putting Darth in there, but I feel like Darth is just... The... Originally, in the 70s, when they came out with Darth, is the bad guy. That was great. But once they made it where he used to be Anakin and all of this,

that kind of threw me off. So I'm not putting Darth. It's going to be Luke, Leia, Han. yola okay so hold on curveball here what about the Darth from the um what's the one I'm thinking of the Obi-Wan show oh that was the most that was the most evil Darth Vader that's ever been portrayed that's what I'm saying it's him I'm fine with putting him in there I'm not replaced let's replace layer with that darts why don't we do that well don't let me talk you out of it I was just why I just wanted to

I know a lot of you took me out of that. It's, I forgot about him. He's a really weird character. Also, who told you I liked Star Wars? Everybody. You're kidding. Okay, someone, I get this man off of my show. This is pitiful.

Is that supposed to be a secret? Is that state secrets? I once called it that. I used to be big about Star Wars and now I've gone out of it and everybody still thinks I am. I've experienced that. I know that feeling. You said something there, Clayton, that I just wanted to unpack real quick. You said back in the 70s when the Star Wars came out,

is there a secret? Are you like Benjamin Button or something? Were you around there in the 70s? Everybody, I go to a bunch of places that everybody says he's the known so to my dad. Or more love, everybody says that. So, I get, also, I got a friend, her name is Audrey Walton, by the way, Nick, don't get hyper. And she explained to me, her mom was born in 1979 the same year a new hope came out. And if Nick wanted to include this, he can include a section about Audrey Walton, which I will not approve of this one time.

So Nick, I'll let you rip. Why don't you see a good? I meant to that. So, perfect, there I go. there it is Nick don't get hyper I love that that was good don't get hyper now

you just sit back there don't get too hyper what a line um all right Star Wars um all right so in 3D printing

there are you know many standard prints many like things that you do that you might be uh you gotta do them um So Mount Rushmore of things to print on a 3D printer.

Any kind of benchy boat. As long as it offers the same properties, you need a benchy boat. A test cube, it'll have like A's and numbers. Aaron Fitzgerald. What, Nick? The Edmund Fitzgerald. Everybody cares about that. Sorry, buddy.

I might interrupt you. I mean, if you don't have Edmund Fitzgerald on your Mount Rushmore, I mean. Yeah, we'll do that. And then the final day has gotten to be the best of all the Kratos can holder. I mean, that head would look the best on a Mount Rushmore. Yeah, you got to just put that out there. I got to tell you, there's nothing better than sit back, relax. If y'all played the real game, you know, that big Axi had the Leviathan or whatever.

I was going to ask you more questions about it. That acts is the handle. Okay. That is amazing. I was going to ask you how many god of wars you've played Believe it or not I just got my buddy Gannon into it And me and him played Ragnarok And then he went over to some more

I got out so I've just played I've competed Ragnarok That's the only one I started on another one But I deleted it before I got deep into it We'll call the duty update so Okay so So you've played Ragnarok

You didn't play the prequel to Ragnarok no and did you play any of the other god of wars no i started on one from before ragnarok but no i did not okay good they are violent and awful games for children well i'm about to go play it just because of the way i have um i've been playing god of war since the first one and i played it when it came out and i've been playing everyone since and Ragnarok is the best one, so good work, but yeah, I just wanted to know because

my son is convinced I'm Kratos. I don't blame them. It looks a lot like... I have a question, though. Yeah. Counting on the fact you're a gamer, how big is your headset did? This head... Oh, I don't have a headset for gaming, because I don't play online. Okay. I'm wondering,

because every time I see somebody, they sit there a gamer, they've got a bald head, I need to know. I just need to know. I believe that we used to be a proper country back when video games didn't need the internet. Anybody do that? Yeah, and we could just play. It was me versus the computer, and I still believe that. Not to say that I don't care for other people playing them.

I just have no patience for them. My favorite game ever is the Arkham series, the Batman ones. I'm replaying Arkham Night for the eighth time right now to try and get the Golden Suit. But yeah, I just play. I played God of War with my boy and, you know, probably a little too violent for a six-year-old, but it keeps him engaged and helps him relax at night. So it is what it is. I play a game.

You probably won't think this has got to be even scared than it has been. Have you heard of Mafia? Yeah. The old country. Yeah, I've played that. I've played three run through three times, three consecutive, two or three consecutive times. I've gotten a bunch of rewards. words of there. I think almost all of them, but like

five. Wow. I'm a big fanatic of mafia. Yo, cut. Yeah, I'm a, nope, never played it. I know about it, and I think there's a reason I never played it, and kudos to you for getting past that. The one thing I like about it,

I'm Kassie. So I love doing the rosary. They have in there, you have not to customize rosary, but the one thing my grandma doesn't like about it is one of the charms of is actually a gun it's just two pistols

going that way it's got to be like extra bullets in your pocket or something that's one thing my grandma doesn't stand about that a fail game that's pretty fun you like it

I'm also a big Assassin's Creed guy nice yes I've played every single one hold on see if you can see my Assassin's Creed sweater from Assassin's Creed 3 over there yeah big Assassin's Creed

Creve guy. I still think you're drinking out of my head, and it's very funny. I can make you one of these mailed or two if you want. What the heck is that me? You can write on the bottom. We're not mailed. Yeah, don't mail that.

That was too expensive. 17 bucks down the toilet. Oh, heck. Yeah, and the mailing alone to Canada. You don't have them from Canada, right? Yeah, I know you live. Where do you live? Canada.

History test, where I can't, I had the history test on Canada naming the places like Alberta, Saskatchewan, Quebec, Ontario, all of these. I had a big test on that. Okay. And all the rivers and all the big towns. So where do you live? I am close to Hamilton, Ontario. Okay. Which is probably on your test an hour away from Toronto.

That's actually pretty fun. No, we... Warrior Hogan. They should have put Joey's house on that test, if I'm honest. You just forward that teacher's number along with me. I'll give them some Canadian facts that they need to include. Oh, perfect. They don't even...

WrestleMania 6 here? Uh, WrestleMania, was it, WrestleMania 3 was here? I know the first Royal Rumble was in Hamilton, Ontario. And I think one of the... Yeah, WrestleMania 3 or 6 was in Toronto. But the first ever World Rumble happened in my hometown, Hamilton. Hacksaw Jim Duggan won. So that's like the first ever Rumble happened.

The question is, were you alive or were you still being made? I probably wasn't even thought of. Or I was just being thought of. Because I do, actually, I want to say it was the year I was born, but before I was born. So I was probably being cooked. The other thing This is gonna sound Slightly inappropriate

So I met mom walked to the bathroom I just realized Nine months before November Is February So I guess my dad had a fun birthday And Valentine's Day And Valentine's Day It's nine months and two days

Before my birthday Yep You must have had a fun time, Nick, did you? There you go Also a November birthday What, what? Night. Yeah, big November guy over here.

It's been a great month. Sad to see it go. My question is. Has you ever had a birthday on Thanksgiving? No, I'm November 10th, so I'm too early in the month to land a Thanksgiving birthday. My eighth birthday was a Thanksgiving birthday, and my friend Kipton, he didn't believe me. So we had to ask my dad, and the next day, he shows up as this Mickey Mouse costume, surprises my cousins, all these little ones. kids at my party and they

all just kept on hucking him and he listened over and said Clayton I'm going to get out of here. They're too much for me. So they left but all of my neighborhood friends came by and did that Mickey Mouse and it was so nice of them. I just still can't believe they did that.

That is wonderful. Mickey Mouse. That was amazing. Do you want to move on to unpaid and underrated? We are going an hour and a half here. Sure. Why not? Nate, how do you feel about that? Listen, I've never felt better about anything else in my life. Well, it's only been an hour and a half.

It has only been an hour and a half. What? Yeah, yeah. It feels like it's been like two minutes. Yeah, we like to keep this fun and lighthearted. And I did mention earlier we wanted to be between an hour and a half to two hours. So I did go through some of these. It was hard to pull things out. So I might ask a couple of unpaid and underrated.

Are you familiar with unpaid and underrated? No, I need you to explain to me what that is. Outstanding. Oh, we have professionals for that as well. Don't worry, Clayton. Yes. I'm going to give you a topic, and you have to tell me if this topic is unpaid, which means like it sucks.

Nobody wants to be unpaid. Or underrated. Or underrated, if not enough people think it's cool. I understand you. Okay, I get enough. Let's play. Okay. I'll start

unpaid or underrated cheese for me unpaid bold move yeah bold why is that I'm not a big fan of cheese is there a cheese that is okay

like a single one in this one particular instance like I don't eat bread but I love a good sandwich the only time I will eat cheese is when it's on pizza in my school we could probably John's stirstays, I mean Wednesdays, and the only time I ever like cheese is all that Papa John's

sausage pizza when you take off the cheese and just bite down all that sauce. Gosh, best thing ever. It's the only time I ever like cheese. Okay. Wait, hold on, hold on. Pump the brakes. Did you just say the best time to eat cheese is when you get the pizza, you

take the cheese off and you eat the pizza without the cheese? No, so I take the cheese, I bought off the cheese, and I eat the cheese. Oh, you eat the cheese? Okay, Okay, okay. So I keep in my throat, so I'm showing that cheesy flavor, and then I bite down all the sauce, and then I swallow it all in one gulp. Okay. Now, let me, let me level with you.

Do you think it would be safer if maybe you just ate it all in one bite, and that way you didn't have to hold the cheese in your throat while you were trying to eat something else? I don't think that would be that's fun, though. That's the thing. That's true. You do like, I've learned, something I've learned in the past hour and a half is you do seem to like to live on the edge a little bit. So, uh, yeah, I'm a hit, uh, I don't know what you would call me, but yeah, I like, I'm a chill guy, you could say. A chill guy, yeah. Chill guy that lives on the edge.

Yeah. All right. Actually, Nate, let's go different. Let's go one and one. One and one. I don't know what that means. So I'll do one, you do one. I'll do one.

I'll do one. They were going to fight Clayton. I don't want to fight big judge. He scares me. I'm not fighting big judge. you chill a guy but you don't mess around all right

unpaid underrated we got to know it's a huge profit center for you but we got to know crock are they unpaid

are they underrated no writing the line here but you can't have your druthers I want to say underrated I know a bunch of people who despise crocs and then the time

they get them for like the birthday or something they will never go back so I want to get underrated. Now, there's a ton of variations of crocs nowadays. Back in my day, everyone had the same pair of crock.

What are you rocking here? A fleece line vehicle. That's some good living with the fleece line. My dad's big on the fleece line. He likes those ones. This is my first pair I've ever had a fleece line. And I call me a croc fanatic for this, but I also got an advent calendar.

So I got all the epic calendar charms on this crock are those in sport mode uh yeah i keep them i never wear them in chill mode that's the thing yeah never do chill guy but not when it comes to crock no crocs are sport mode only yep yeah good choice good choice i have a pair of crocs but they don't have sport mode so i wear them in very safe situations um fair enough but i also got them from aldi so okay that makes more sets down they're not real. Makes more sense.

I do have a pair. I just never wear them because I own barefoot shoes. Nice. I actually, for my birthday, got a pair of barefoot shoes just recently. Oh, exciting. I saw that.

Yeah, what kind did you get? I got, it's not barefoot shoe brand. It's peluva. Mm-hmm. Are they high tops, low tops? I don't know what you would call them. Tell me the difference. I might be able to try.

I've seen that. I've got eyes on them. Well, I've had eyes on them via the internet, via the Discord. They are low tops. I believe you got little individual digits, little holes for your toes on those ones? Oh, those.

God, Ken, Cubs Couts, tried spreading them out. Yeah. That hurts so much. She's already just ripped them. Listen, dude, Clayton, listen, I've been in the barefoot game a long time. Love barefoot shoes. Love the minimalist shoe lifestyle.

Best thing, you got to get in between those toes. You take your hand, you get in between those toes, and you really just stretch them out, really work them. Oh, there's nothing. He was trying to give you a massage. He didn't know it. He thought he was messing around. But that's, I do that to my wife all the time.

She also hates it. But, uh... More man. There's more man right there, people. Yeah. But, dude, yeah, the barefoot, and listen, you don't listen to the haters. I go into houses all the time. I wear, I wear a toe socks.

I don't want, I don't want foot coffins around my, around my toes. My socks have individual holes for my toes, like a, crazy person and I walk into houses and people like what are those and I'm like listen what are those foot coffins that you're wearing okay you don't worry about the haters Clayton if they're coming for you in your toes you tell them listen the the proprioception I have on the ground right now immaculate I got the tail a bear for shoes are crazy good yeah crazy good I got a friend we're going to call them lace we're going to nickname him lace for this because his

will kill me. Oh, okay. So lace, he saw that I got back for choosing. He loves. He never wears him. He says at home, he wears him all the time. And my friend Shannon, we're going to call him, Shannon, says he's not lying, because they're half cousins. So when I got him, he said, we should both wear him to school

one day. I said, what day? He said, next Tuesday. I said, we won't be in school next Tuesday. We're on Thanksgiving break. And we and him have an argument. And then he'd draft. And then he'd drags his mom in over what kind of barefoot shoes did I get? Because he said Barefoot Brand. Eventually he came to this.

He said Barefoot Brand. I said Palovo. His mom said, it's Teluvia, a lease. And he about killed me. Man. The only argument I've ever had over a barefoot chew is right there. Man. Hey, you got to stand up for what's right.

That's what I've always said. Yeah. Bareborn. And you know what the best way to stand up for something right on Barefoot? shoes. On barefoot shoes, yep, can't confirm. Is it my turn or your turn? It's my turn. It's your turn, because I got nothing. I don't know what to go to next. Unpaid

or underrated turtles. That's a really hard one. I want to say unpaid. Why is that? It's not that I have nothing against turtles. It's more than I feel like too many people are saying, plastic straws are getting in turtle's noses and kidding them. That is it. one a year. One a year.

Three hundred sixty-five days a year. That's one. Complained to me about that all you want, Joey. I see you cry. You're playing to me all you docks. No, I just didn't think it would go that direction. Well, listen.

Big anti-papers strong out of here. That doesn't matter. You paper squad, they dissolve. People say, oh, passers strong are better. If you want to do that, okay, but you want to keep turtles alive, go to Paper Strong. They'll just go before they reach the ocean. There is a 200-mile radius of a trash pile in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.

What has the world done? What has the world done? I do hate paper straws. I'll give you that. Dissolve before they hit the ocean. They'll dissolve before they hit my lips, am I right? I know that's the thing. So you keep playing all you want people, but if you're eating plastic straws, you're still kidding turtles.

So those people that say Oh, I'm helping turtles And then they go out and eat a plastic straw I'd say no You're lying here, you're killing turtles But I have nothing good or bad about turtles I'm just going to say I'm paid That's for that reason

That took a direction that I was not expected I druthers so hard Yeah, all right I'll do the next one Because Nate says he doesn't have any despite the notes being in front of him. Listen, I had something. Everything went out the window

when we got on turtles, man. That blew me away. I can't recover. We'll do one more for you if that's all right, Clayton. Go ahead. Do all you want. All right. I got until 9 o'clock. Unpaid or underrated.

Dodgeball. Oh, underrated. In school, we play dodgeball all the time. We love it. I see people say dodgeball is the first number one kidder of kids. I say in the dodge ball movie, yes, and real life, heck no. You say it's the number, who's, they say it's the number one killer of kids?

I heard that somewhere. I heard that was plastic straws. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Heck not. Yeah. Yeah.

I would say so. Man, listen, I've played a lot of dodge ball in my ears. I've never seen anyone die. I don't know what kind of dodge ball they're playing. You never dodged a wrench. I know. Savannah Davis, back on Savannah. Savannah.

I hope she's listening. Sting throws a ball in my head and bounces it back and on and back and on and back and on. You got to move your head back and on. Forgive me, Mrs. Davis. Forgive me Mrs. Davis. I'm sorry for using your child's name. If you can't

forgive me, please do. She'll throw you and ask you ball on my head. It'll bounce off again, again, again, again, again. And these things are, like, full, they're rubber. And they're like that big. So they hurt really stinking bad. So when that happens, it's bigger my head, so I'll, like, fall back, and then

you'll do it again. I'll fall back, and I'll fall back. And then her friend, oh, we're going to call her lady. Maybe comes in from behind and doesn't. So I can't fall forward. I can't fall back. Yeah, I feel like you've got to just move, like left and at this rate. They do that, but then Danin comes in here

and then... Dang. So then I will cool in me. It's difficult how the modern day world works. There's corner it sounds like other kids are the real killers of kids yeah yeah god's ball doesn't people kill people people kill people i sniff houston i twirl houston like he's a sweater around and around in the sky

so he wants me dead apparently oh man all right uh buddy i think you passed unpaid and underrated that brother i've never seen anyone pass it better than that that's all that's that's that's that's that's some honor student level uh level level level stuff that's yeah yep who okay wow um now for fmk no no we're i think we're gonna skip that one today for you budd oh come on i'm looking forward to that we got a we got a tight ship to run here yeah So normally what we do here is we open it up to you. Is there anything you want to ask the hosts of unpaid and underrated?

Yes. How are you, I got two. I'm going to show off with, how are you connected to massonomics? I'm still learning that, so I want to just get that down so I can know. Nate, do you want to, how far can we go on that one? Sure, I'll unpack this for you, but I'll sit back, get out to the nose, I'm gonna get me just a box and full of ice back here So

You got a bucket full ice I've always needed A bucket of ice When I'm listening to a story Are you big ice chewer You're like chewing on ice? Eh Okay

All right Just checking So how are we connected To Massanomics? What a great question You might listen to the Massonomics podcast And you'd hear our

Our good friend Tanner Baird He would say the braddy little sister podcast um and so that that would be how we're connected we're just the brady little sister podcast and the concept is um you might be familiar with you know the discord and the crew and all of that um well that went on that's been around for i don't know five six years at this point maybe um and it's grown and grown and uh just consistently people would talk about how they wanted They thought it would be cool to have a podcast that was about massonomics, like a little, like, meta sort of concept of let's talk about what they talk about

and talk about what's going on. And one day, Keith just really made a big stink about it on the Discord. And there was this other podcast that did a podcast about being a podcast. And Keith's like, why are we not doing this? I want to do this. Maybe it was Joey, I don't know. It was me. We'll check the receipts.

We went back and forth for quite a while, and then I got mad about talking about it. And I told Tanner to create an event in Discord. I said, I'm going to just do it. And anybody wants to be involved to join this event. But it was me and Keith that really pushed the concept. And, yeah, go ahead. But yeah, so these kids, they started being like, we want to do a podcast. we want to do a podcast.

And then that's what happened. We did it. We got together and met a few times. And then when we started, we didn't really know what it would be. And it's turned into this cool thing to help grow the community and grow the massonomics lore and world

and help people get to know other people that are in the Discord and a part of the crew. So it's really just become this tool. Really, what we do is we exist as an investigative arm of Massonomics into the members that Tanner is employed via no finances. Joey Keith and I. Yeah. We pay them. Yeah, to go out, find all these people that really like Masonomics, ask them a bunch of questions so Tanner and Tommy can know more about them.

So really, we're just investigative journalists for Massonomics is really what I think it comes down to. So if the weather was Tanner and Tommy, you're the news reporter? To an extent. The weather is the discord in this metaphor. And I think if I really had to give you a tangible way to grasp this, if you're going to go to the left-hardly v. Z, which is in July of next year, a lot of the people

that are listening to this episode right now are going to meet you they're going to say oh I know Clayton he was on that episode of unpaid and underrated

so all of these people that meet up once or twice a year that are all part of this massonomics crew well we interview them so when we go to events I know you you are on unpaid and underrated I know this about you

I know this about you like if you go to this event don't be surprised if somebody you don't know calls you a big judge. And it'll be because they listen to this episode. So if you do plan on going and you really want to meet a lot of us, listen to some of our episodes, pick and choose who you think is cool or the name of the episode or something. Don't let your mom listen.

And sorry, mom. Thank you, mom. When you go to the Lift Hardly Visa, you get to go, I know you, you're scantz. I listen to your episode. I know you. You're Ryan. I listen.

to your episode. And that's kind of what we really wanted to do, which was the end result. We do model the concept after the interview episodes of Massonomics, which is why when I said, oh, is that you?

When I said, let's get our guest on the horn, that was something they did for over 100 episodes. So we've been doing that for 150-something episodes. And it's the same model, but we interview people like you as if you're a world-famous lifter.

But your Masonomics crew, which is almost more important, to most of us. And my second and third kind of question is, where did unpaid and underrated come from? And when will this come out? The name?

Yes. Where did that come from? I feel like that's just a random thing to call yourselves. Where did that come from? Unpaid and underrated. I hate to say this. It literally crushes my soul. But the name came

from well the truly the name came from someone asked chat GPT for podcast names and it was one of the ones I'm pretty sure there's a I don't think well it might be the unpaid and

unrated thread now but it was formally like crew cast but it was just for like days and days people were just posting ideas for names for the podcast and someone wrote unpaid and underrated and we decided on that one

and the concept is you know frequently the massonomics crew the name before a crew that they had was unpaid intern that was the sort of the name that a lot of us went by beforehand

and so that's where that kind of comes from and Clayton if you ever offered an unpaid internship that isn't massonomics say no but and then underrated obviously the game that Massonomics made that ripped off our unpaid and underrated name,

overrated, underrated, that's where we would get the underrated part. So we get unpaid and underrated. So we're unpaid interns and we're underrated. So that's where the name would come from. And then as for when it would, this episode would release, it would release Tuesday next week, which is the, 9th of December Okay, that's good to know

It is, it's great to know Well Hey, yeah, let's round it out Yeah, buddy Can I be, can you Yeah, up and down I try to hold this better, is that better? Yes

Oh yeah Okay, I just wanted to thank you guys for Not only interviewing Clayton but We live in a rural area where, you know, there's not a lot of people here that there's not really a real gym here. And this home gym community, Masonomics crew type community, it's been really good for Clayton last year. And I think it will be in the years coming. So not only thank you for existing, but thank you for taking the time to talk to him. We really appreciate that.

It's just been nice. it's been a while coming I think I messaged you and I were messaging a long time ago and I was we were just trying to find a date I think Joe Henley kind of bonded us but yeah yeah so that's going to round us out we'll do a little bit of an outro but stick around guys

we'll record a little bit of the after show or post roll as I call it and then we can get Clayton to bed and honestly I want to go to bed 430 comes very soon Listen, my bed time is 1 a.m. I'm not looking to bed any time soon. Oh, buddy.

You start to- Go for it. Yeah. You got a comment. Me? I have an office to take care of upstairs and is probably banging the door right now, waiting for me to come up there. So I'm... Is your office just your PlayStation?

No. My office. So here's what... He has a business, Joey. I know. Hold on, Nate. Like, I've got it right here. It stays right here.

Oh, you actually have that. Yes, it's right here. It's actually right on top of my Bray Wyatt, still in the package, Feen, wrestler, next to my Lego Batman. Okay, so here's how my office layout is you walk in the door. On your left, there's a fridge. On top of the fridge, there's a paper cutter, and the fridge there's Monster Energy. Yes, that's Monster Energy. Across from that, there's a bearer...

Only the White. Only the White Monster Energy. The zeros. Yeah, the green one would be. be too much. So, and then we got across from that there's a shelf, and I mean a fat shelf, and all that has a bunch of collectibles I have on, but it also has a coffee machine and a special machine is coming, and I have

a whiskey barrel full of caffeine juice, to wake me up in the morning. And then I got a, and then I got a small bunk bed, like really small, but it's just enough to lay down to pass it out on. I got a damn, I got a computer, I got two 3D printers, I got one normal printer, and I got a desk full of copy paper and scout stuff. I got collectibles up here. I got memories up here. I got one of my great grandma died, I got an angel of her up here.

I can take you up there right now, because right after this is done, I'm heading up there anyway. No, well, big judge, I think we're rounding out. Your office is more intense than mine, because mine is the corner of my bedroom. Yeah, I was going to say, I have, I don't have an office. I'm actually getting a bigger office there. The reason they're expanding the house is to make the garage their bedroom. So I'm getting their bedroom as an office and bedroom. That's so cool.

It's going to happen. So I've got to finally be able to probably get some good lights rest without three printer and many VLCs and getting my ears. Oh, man. I don't think anybody's made me laugh as much as you, Clayton. so normally I would say where do we find you but you're not on Instagram because I think you're too young for Instagram so I have a

YouTube channel. Yes you do Lifeo Clayton. Yes you do I was watching I watched a video of that earlier today and yesterday to make sure I got it twice Yeah I've watched that video a lot of times It's made my day I love it so much I also actually have for my business

Y'all don't need to check this out but I have a YouTube channel that's called Clayton's Crook Charms Okay It's just like a wave C, three Cs, but we're going to end this out here. Thank God for having me on. See ya.

Okay, and Nate, where do we find you? Huh? Where do we find me? Yeah, you can find me in Kentucky. You can also find me at Nate E561. That's me. I can find me on Instagram. You can find me at glazedsearch.com.

Find all of Keith's, movie rankings uh you can find me at um strong man scoreboard dot com we need people you you need scoreboards we got them you need you'd want to subscribe to something and just give me money great place to do it um i do pay taxes uh so it's all all above table business going on there uh but yeah go find me in all the places find me at unpaid internpodcast dot com keith says i do work there i don't know what work I do there, but he says I do a lot of work there, so find us there as well. Find me at Joey underscore Mlesco, M-L-E-C-Z-K-O, but forget about that. Follow me at the no-wine cellar.

For each. Yeah. Follow his orange gym. My orange gym, yeah. Follow his orange gym. It's important to know. We'll see you next Tuesday. Pre-show Greece.

Shout out to Gary. He sent me these lights for my bike. And I strap them on. They flash and stuff, too. Look at that for safety. And they also work really well when all the power goes out in your house. You don't have any other lights for your family. Gary is lighting all of the children in the living room.

We lost power. I let candles everywhere for that. Yeah, I'd love to have some candles. Oh, have you ever seen the Gala Girls? It's one of my favorite shows of all time. Yep, that's one of my favorite television shows of all time. I'm an old... It's mine.

Really? Who's the favorite character? My's Sophia. It's probably Sophia, but Dorothy's a very, very close second for me. Yes. I said, what happened with Dorothy? Because she always feels grumpy. probably not enough protein in her diet

yeah that might be a bit beyond your age to understand what really happened to Dorothy yeah yeah I don't know if you're really ready for that kind of stuff oh man I watched American pie all of them by the time I was six I think I'm ready for just about anything just ready for anything taxes bureaucracy the DMV

ready for you know one of the things you got to actually look at I had to raise the prices on some of my products just because the economy and tariffs and all of this just hit bad on the filaments I used. So I had to raise my prices, and people did not like it. No, no one likes that. And within $3 to $5 on every product. Oh, that's unpaid. The nerve! That's unpaid.

Yeah, they about killed me for that. Well, thank you so much for having me. I hope you'll have a good night, and I hope y'all stay underrated. Hong Kong.