Unpaid And Underrated - 138 : Wrongchester [ft. Big Andy]

Episode Date: December 30, 2025

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Hey everybody. Welcome to Unpaid and underrated, the podcast for crew, by crew, relentlessly mocked by crew, and kind of interrupted everyone once in while by Keith. We're going to start today, a real quick cold open. Hopefully Nate leaves this one in. We're going to do a little bit of our predictions. I'll give you some contact. I wanted to do this before the guest got on because I think this would be very boring for the guest, but having the hosts and technically a guy Nate on here to do this, I think made the most sense. So I do believe Keith is going to handle last year's predictions first. We're going to talk about what we thought would happen this year and we're going to see if any of that happened.

Indeed, indeed. All right, we'll get this one kicking off. So we had four predictions from last year, up from three. and 2023. This is a completely original segment that Joey and I came up with with Nate all by ourselves. No inspiration from the Big Sister podcast. Maybe a little bit, but probably not. The four questions we're going to go one at a time. So in 2025, did Keith and Big Nate meet in person? Joey voted yes. Keith voted yes. The answer was yes. Nate surprised us all. Nice try, one of the Davids. the Southwood's back Yes God I'm going to throw you through a wall

Nate So yes Both Joey and I get a point for that one Or is Taylor in the chats boys We'll jump ahead to the third one here Because the second one we got a little surprise answer for at the end In 2020 Did you and you record a in-person podcast

With at least two of the three you know, main host. And Keith voted no. Joey voted yes in the answer. We did not. We did not record an in-person podcast. I don't know that we ever will. I still don't think we will. If we do, it's just going to be one of us slapping our iPhone down on the table with a garage band or whatever. And that is not how we'll do it. That's, uh, yeah, wrong again. Well, that's how I could have, if I wanted to do it at like an Airbnb with the boys or something, but that would just be like one host with whoever they're wrong again Keith no it'll

happen uh Keith's trying to do the party cast again hold on we're just gonna like stick a microphone halfway across the room I don't want I don't want to do that but if we did do it it would be the most low effort like I'm not traveling with microphones I'm gonna I don't I go to crew falls vacation not work I think it's

you don't travel with microphones Nathan will travel with my that's fine well Nathan needs to get those extra check marks and come to crew falls next year it's more likely we'll put it together and meet at one of your houses my house or or or something like that to do it uh be like it we get someone to sponsor that you think something mass mom should sponsor that for us pay for a gas and whatnot me driving three hours no i mean and and like you know you got to get reimbursed for like

you know 25 bucks an hour for your time you know for the oh we're going to charge them hourly gotta get for dm like door to door travel no no they done enough for us but tanner sign sound off in the chat if you want to sponsor a in-person podcast what does uh oh yeah tanner does have to pay for uh hannah's mike last week though i think she's going to send him that bill yeah that is camera yes yeah that that that's what it was nice i'm going to the podcast how about that congrats jay all right uh so we are joey got that one wrong so yep oh wait hold on hold on hold on wrong again joey there we are there it is yeah so anyone keeping score that's uh zero for keith and negative one for joey uh

The next one's going to be a wash because we both voted no. Actually, no, we're both going to go, okay, so will we publish a three-hour episode in 2025? I don't want to say in 2023 or four, we did one with one of the Davids that was a little over three hours. And I think we both vowed to never do that again, and we were pretty committed to a two-hour window. I believe we both went, please no. Yeah, so we both voted no from a quick glance. We at least had one three-hour episode. And I blame Nate, because it was a lift, hard, live-easy recap.

And was that one, yeah, because it was me and Nate. I don't think, Joey might not have it. I don't remember if Joey. No, I was. It was me, Nate, and a handful of other guys. And we tried to get off. Like, and. You tried to what?

What? I tried to stop the podcast. It's not this kind of podcast. I tried to stop the podcast multiple times well before the three hour window. And these sons of bitches wouldn't let me go to bed. So we did Eclipse. I want to say that was three hours and 16 minutes. So we both got negative points on that.

I want to say it's, it's, it's, It was 316, exactly. I like that Keith's like, I want to say, and then says the exact seconds. Approximately. Exactly. All right. So going into the last question that Nate has the answer to and Joey and I do not, it is Joey negative two, Keith negative one.

Final question. Let's see. Will Big Nate be on six episodes? So I voted no and Joey voted yes. and Nate has the answer to the best of his ability. And we also need to sort of like, are we, like, because there's been times you've popped on for less than minutes, I believe. Does that count?

No, I would say like, hosted episodes. Yeah. So either roundtables, which we did several. I still think it's going to be no, but I, if I have to guess right now, I'd say he was on five episodes. That would be my guess. So the over under, or the question was, Joey went yes, I went no.

So if you had to guess before we reveal the answer, Joey, would you stick with that? Yep. Cool. Okay. Well, Big Nathan, what do we got? If the search is correct and I can count, which both of those things might not be true. And you're responsible for both. Yeah.

It's crazy. Big Clayton puts me at seven. Oh, shit. And I'll be at eight when we record, when the Christmas episode drops. Nice. All right. So, Joey and I both, negative one. So to recap, I was on Clayton's episode.

I did Lift Hard Live Easy. I was on the very end post show of a home JimCon recap. I think I yelled at Keith. Oh, yeah. You were like, is this thing still recording? You can't. No, I thought it was the post show and it was still the podcast. Oh, it was.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We still, because that was, I think it was right before I got my laptop up and run. No, you have the laptop, and the thumbnail is a picture of you with the laptop. Ah, but I didn't know how to use it. That's true. I still doesn't. I had got that, yes, that's true. I had got it that day.

What's changed? Yeah. Oh, that's right. And then I was on the, the barbecue side hot dog episode, our friends that we made along the way episode. Was it? Was it? Was it? That was the one with, like, Huck Finn and everybody.

Oh, that was our two-year anniversary. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I was on my own episode where you guys interviewed me, and then I did. Wow, that was this, that's been a long year, dude. That's wild. Yeah, it sure has. And then I was, I was in, brother, in February, I was on episode 94. I don't know what, I think that was the one where we talk about stuff.

Oh, probably the jokes explanation one. Yeah, ranks. This week, Joey, Keith, and Nate joined the ranks of the Davids and try to explain the history of unpaid and underrated jokes. Oh, did I write that? That's funny.

Dude, your description of the episode this week of the crew falls recap, how you kind of had a little dig at all of us, that was pretty flush. I thought that was good, yeah. I didn't catch it at first. I got just copy and paste it in, and then someone commented on it,

and I was like, oh, that really is funny. Nate's, he's got a sleeper body and a sleeper sense of humor. Wow. What is that? It's coming from a guy that gives big hugs. Yeah. Like stealing my back. Yeah.

I'm going to come and interrupt. I just want to point out a couple of the accomplishments. I think that we really blew out of the water this year. And not just us. I want to thank the crew for some of these as well. I want to thank Hogan. for the crew cards completely based on unpaid integrated that's fantastic like

if there was a way to make crew cards he chose us to to yeah I've got mine right here as well he chose our podcast to be the one that um really decided who got made when which is really incredible uh we got our first Fubu merch the uh for us by us

um which is the sweater I'm wearing right now the unpaid and underrated hoodies. As much as, you know, we really love Tanner and Tommy for making theirs. It was really fun to have one made by us. And not by us three, but somebody outside of us said, hey, I want this. I'm going to do it. I think it really lends credibility to what we do and the impact that we have on this

community that we're making. We did have, as of today, total, over the two and something years that we've been doing this, 42,000 76 downloads of this podcast. So obviously metrics can be played. I think we spoke about this in private in our group chat. I don't think we have that many downloads in Singapore. I don't really believe that.

But according to Firesides, that is that is what we have and um you know there there's more stuff to talk about i think i sent you guys are um a big shout out of course is to the top four countries which is the us obviously uh canada being second the uk is up there as well australia is up there i know we have some listeners down there as well up there based on where you're where you're standing uh so you know we've been doing a lot of good work a lot of good work a lot of fun work, a lot of hard work, and it seems to be paying off. So right now, I wanted to put out there, thank you to the crew for making this what it is. Sure, Keith and I record every

week. Sure, Nate does everything. He does everything. I don't know what I do. He does a ton of great work, but ultimately, if it wasn't for the rest of the supporting members, I don't think we would be what we would be. So, big shout out to those guys. I do think we have maybe about five to ten minutes to cover next year's predictions before I have to post this in the other chat.

Yeah, Andy's probably getting anxious. Yeah, you know, I'll let him wait. Yeah, I'll post a message in Discord while you introduce how this came about and our, this year's predictions, Keith. And, yeah, wait, hold on. Shiboot! Shiboot! You know what that means?

it's time for our 2026 predictions. I forgot about that. Oh, so at work, by the way, this is a really funny, stupid moment of mine. My boss comes in. He's wearing a work boot and a running shoe.

And, of course, I was like, Shiboot! I was like, he's wearing a shaboot. And the other one of my coworkers looks at him and goes, why are you doing that? And he goes, well, my running shoe broke. I'm gluing it.

And I thought I'd put my work boot on while I'm waiting for that. And he goes, why don't you just wear two work boots? Yep. And my stupid brain never clued into that. I was like, no, this is the logical explanation. You wear one of each while the other one repairs. It's insane. So stupid.

Yeah, my brain does not work sometimes. Go ahead, Keith, talk about how we came about with these, because I think some of these are crew. Yeah, I think honestly, this was kind of a last minute. it, uh, I didn't even remember we did these until the sister podcast did theirs a couple weeks last week. And I was like, wait, no, I'm OCD. I know I had all these saved on a document somewhere. So I had to go find that. And I was like, oh, yeah, we have to get the answers for these. And then, uh, so I posted a, I sent a personal text to a handful of close, uh,

and was like, hey, do you have any suggestions for this? This is what our, these are examples of what we did the last couple years, kind of keep it in that vein. And, uh, got a lot of responses back. And we kind of cherry picked a handful. So I got copied about eight or nine in here. We're gonna wrap probably cherry pick four or five of them and go from there uh probably i don't know i can't see this because he's not on the dock but did what's i can get there andy's discord because he's not in his he just joined he should be literally just joined gm if he that's on him she's and rice he also must have i copied his show notes in like eight like less than a day and a half ago and like 10 people submitted since then so our show notes are all fucked up now because i uh i just

copied and pasted everything at the very bottom of it so kids these days man yeah I was like I don't know if he just like harped on all his buddies last minute to submit stuff but that did not help but yes 2026 predictions we're gonna have Jesus did you turn the volume up

you fuck? I don't know how do I go home all right did you just want to pick two and I'll pick two maybe brother you are home yeah we got one two three four five we have a lot but I don't But I don't want to make it so big that it's just like an out. I mean, I guess if you wanted to make it a bigger segment next year,

then yeah, let's do them all. Fuck it. Yeah. We'll do it live. Nate, you don't have access to these, right? I can, I literally have access to everything. I set all this up for you guys. That's true.

Okay. We'll do one each. Sure. Okay, Keith is starting. One each. There's a lot of them. There's seven and there's three of us. The math kind of works.

Well, if we do two each, and then we just have one that gets left out. Oh, no. I meant, oh, yeah, I lost you. One in one, one, one. Yeah, I meant, when I said one, each, I meant one and one and one and one and one. And can say, okay, so I'll do the one that's relevant to me. Will Big Keith, me, do all four crew trips again in 2025? So that would be the Arnold,

lift hard, live easy, home gym con, crew falls. So that's about $6,000 with the trips. I've done it three out of the last, I don't know. Out of the last three years, I think the only thing I missed was one Arnold. I'm going to say I don't make it to all four trips this year So I also say you don't I would also agree

Yeah cool Actually you know what I think Keith will go I think I wouldn't go is the Arnold Yeah I was gonna say I think he backs up The Arnold He does hate the Arnold Yeah especially now they're not having a booth And I don't have a free lodging anymore

It was a little no we'll see maybe some crew B&B will come together last minute and if Joey comes down and gets a jacket I might have to come, you know, support him. But we'll see. Yeah, if I had to guess, I would say that's the one you miss. Keith, yes, Joey, no, Nate, no. Oh, excuse me.

Nate, which one do you want to do? I didn't look at him. You were busy typing in the chat. I was busy writing farts. Oh, so that was you, you fucker? Wasn't me. My hands on my pocket. I didn't.

How do we, show us your hands. Oh, will Joey finish the last 100 episodes in the back catalog? Are we allowed to know where you're at currently? Yes, yes. It's on, I guess it's a guarantee. It's a guarantee. I just started episode 140. I was doing the math and looking at the guests.

I have to get to episode 239. And then I will be a 16 out of 6. completer. Wow. One of only five. The odds of me not doing that would be stupid of me, if I'm being honest. And now that I'm driving again to work, half an hour to 45 minutes each way, I can get through almost one or two episodes a day. And that's at 1.3 speeds for all you weirdos.

I listen to everything at 1.3, not 1.0 except for this podcast. it's because hearing Keith's voice at 1.3 drives me insane. So Joey, yes. Nate, what do you think? Well, Joey just told me he was going to, so it'd be hard to bet against that. Because him and I both kind of butchered that. So maybe if it's one that's relevant to us or to you, we go last in our voting. Just so we're not giving away our secrets. I'm going to go, no, just to motivate you.

And then Nate, yes or no, just so I can type it in. I'll say yes. All right. Because I trust Joey. Yeah. Okay. It's, you're a jerk.

I'll be quite honest with you, the odds of me not doing it by the Arnold. It's more fun to not, I'll have the same. If we all vote with the same answer, it's fucking a pointless game. You're just guaranteeing me a point. I would like to win. I'm here to win. I'm like, oh, wait, you guys haven't listened. Never mind.

I can't. No spoilers for Jen's episode. I'll do it. I'll do it by the Arnold 100%. Do I make it to the Arnold? That depends on a lot of factors. We're talking about the Arnold, 2027? 2026.

I know. Six, seven. Six, seven. All right, pick one, Joey. Um, will Joey be in a gym tour with the guys in Canada? Ooh. That's, mm.

So the thing is, how many of them are close to you, though? That's the, you know, wait, you can't answer first, though. Let's not let you answer because that kind of defeats it. So if I had to, if I had to use my druthers, let's see. So there's, I don't know. There's like three guys within a couple hours of you, but it's like it would strictly just be Canada. I don't know. Probably.

I'm going to go no, but optimistically I'd wanted to happen. But just to be opposite, I'm going to go, no. Nate. Nate, you're up. This is so tricky. It really, it doesn't come down to anything, but Will Tanner and Tommy. decide to cross the border because that is tricky. And if they do, would it be there

versus like just driving north and hitting like, uh, I'm going to text them real quick and ask if they're going to next year. I may have already been involved in asking that question. Yeah. Well, you know, um, ah, um, I want to win. Uh, what do I get when I win?

Uh, do you get to be the producer of the podcast for another year? Okay, how do I lose? um by being the producer of this podcast for another year i don't know like uh i'm gonna i'm gonna go with oh man they just they want to do so much they got a lot next year they don't have a lot let's just say yes because they've been they did so much this year that they got to want to keep the gravy chain rolling and i feel like that 12 months is a lot of time and they haven't been there yet so they haven't really been south is it my turn the furthest south

they've been is tennessee yes we go to the carolinas okay so maybe not this year but i think they did uh when they went to new york oh yeah there was plans of them coming here cool but based on the schedule they thought the border would slow them down too much so the chances that there is Canadian tour seem high to me. Is my gym going to be a part of that? Probably not. Mostly because Big Cam is very close to me. He has a much nicer gym than me.

If they came here, my gym is honestly not a huge commercial looking fun gym. My gym is a dank gym where you go and lift weights that way what they're supposed to weigh. It's not going to be a pretty tour. It's literally going to be that. weighs this much, and I pick it up because I'm supposed to. So I can see it being a very boring tour,

but the odds of them coming in this area and me showing up, I'm going to say our 50-50. I'm going to go, yes, I am going to appear in a video, and it might not be my own. Okay. Do we want to do all seven, or what, did Andy respond to you? Because I don't want to leave him hanging for like 20 minutes.

he's in the discord we'll go let's do that forget the one uh will i have a oh good a guy and they can throw a curveball in will an event happen that joey gets his jacket unless they come here no yeah i would say no to that one too but i might not even if if ever if we're no across the board i won't even add that one in yeah just for simplicity but i can just write no across the board and then if you do it we all do you're back do this one uh All right, Nate, I want to ask, Keith, after you mentioned it, what was that last, time's a flat circle. Last week, you mentioned a secret project, so will it release next year? I mean, I was hoping it would release this year, but we'll see.

This year's, that would be crazy. I mean, they're busy. They still got, like, two weeks. You know, it's still fourth quarter. Yeah, I don't know. And then it's like, are we talking physical year or physical year? or physical year. Oh, fiscal, yeah.

It could be this physical year. That's a, someone write that, I need to write that down. That's my next Massonomics Q&A. Do you guys run off of natural years or do you guys use a different fiscal year? Mike, it is weird. My company, they do end a month and it's always like not the end of the month. And I'm like trying to wrap my head around that. Well, that's a whole core accounting process thing.

End of month is truly actually month long. Yeah, basically. So will there be a super secret? product announced. I don't know. That's the thing. It's like we got a little tidbits about it. I don't want to spill any beans.

We don't really know that much about it. Somebody out there might, but it's not us. I'm not sure if it's a product or a thing or a thing. Tanner's never, well, no, Tanner has lied to me multiple times, but it's lied by like omissions, I guess. But I have never seen Tanner's never like, no, that's literally all the grease has blown smoke up your grasp. So, like, I still don't want to say, like, I've never heard either of them talk about something coming up and then, like, not be genuine about it. So I don't know. Like, I couldn't imagine them getting this giddy. Like, they're giddy. Like, I don't, I don't use

that word, like, you know, like, they are fucking giddy about this thing that they're going to come out with. So I think it's going to be a game changer. So whatever, however you pose the question, yes, in 2026, there's going to be something to be giddy about. Listen, it's, it's, it's, you know what, there's excited to be about. giddy about in 20206 I'm gonna be a girl dad that's what's excited yeah buddy that's something to be that's probably what they're giddy about

oh we should talk about that for hours being a girl is the best I don't know I don't know I think there's no way they would it has to come out in 2026 because there's zero chance that it uh they've mentioned something to Keith and it's like a multiple year long because that would also be hilarious for them to be like something great's coming and then

it'd just be like five years down the road. Don't tell anybody for like 18 months, fucker. Yeah, anytime they... Many a person heard the same story I did, so... Anytime they leak something, uh, and it's like, something has to be kept under wraps. It's like, I need to tell everyone right now.

Yeah. Everyone needs to know about this. It's hard. So, yeah. Are we going to go with that one? Or let's, let's, we have to pick one that's actually going to get some diverse answers, though, just so we have four for next year. Because we're all just, like, the last three, we voted the same goddamn answers.

so everyone can see what's on there so I don't care if someone pick a good one that's well let's do the Instagram followers all right um so what are we at currently like 802 uh let's go 900 not 850

yeah let's go 901 okay so 901 I'm gonna say we do not well maybe I shouldn't be the one I'm gonna say no but I will hold withhold my reasons so we'd have to get 80 more followers

we're gonna do it no no no we'd have to get 900 and we'd have to get you said 901 we'd have to get 98 more followers we're at 800 and yeah as long as Keith stops scaring them away we can do it I'm about to buy some bots to get this point so you're both yes okay that works

absolutely yeah absolutely because our content game is so strong why wouldn't people want to follow us and I'm gonna start just going and improving every follower Yeah, just don't follow them back Because I'll unfollow them If they're not crew or crew adjacent

Oh, Joey Well, if I'd hit my name fucking twice Your Kese, your name's not Nate All right, cool It is not All right, well we got four for next year to go Over the results for And if we want to do the rest offline we can

We could probably get Andy rolling If he's ready Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll post that in the rate me out Yeah, no, that's high message That's not Discord I post it everywhere Yeah, fuck it, we'll do it live That they can call come in

I'm on long weekend Change, no, can't have change I was trying to click that for half an hour All right Well, yeah, I think The next year we do this It should be just us I think that that would make more sense

And we still have time We can if we if anyone I mean we can go back through this list and actually vote, vote on the rest of them we want. But yeah, it'll be fun. We do need to have like a round, an inner circle roundtable and just shoot the shit at some point. Yep.

Those are always fun. Now we have to wait a year. But apparently Nate's going to be on, well, actually, no, okay, so final one. So Nate was on seven, right? So now the overrunners. Editing this is going to be a disaster. Nate, so, okay,

so Nate go last to Joey. I'll type it out. Will Nate be on eight episodes of you and you? No. Eight? I go under. Okay. I'm gonna go, I'll go, I'll take the yes.

So I have to be over eight episodes? Okay, so no, well, I say it's not over, for me it's not over under. It's, I mean, if it's over under, then it would still be seven. But if I'm going to say, because last year we didn't word it as over under, it's will he be on more than, I don't know how the fuck did we word it? That is, more than is a variation of the first. The phrase over or under, you think it's. But it includes, no, but it includes eight. It's a good thing he's pretty.

You just said it has to be over eight, because if you say it over under... No, over on this year. So you want to put the over under at 7.5, like you would in sports gambling. Okay, so 7.5, so then you still have to do... Well, no, because you don't... I'm saying you'd have to be on eight episodes, but if you do over under 8, that means you'd have to be on 9. You broke it. Okay, so the over under is set at 7.5.

Okay. And that means if you're on eight, you're, which eclipse this year by one, and that's what we're trying to do. So I'm going to say yes, you'll be on eight episodes. Okay. And you're both saying no. I'm going to say no as well. And I'm going to actively work to bring you down, Keith. You're going to forget what you voted and what the questions were in one day. I'm going to forget by the time I hang up from this. All right, are those all our predictions? That's our recap. All right. That's our. Oh, hold on. we've got to play the theme song. Shiboo! And that's all she wrote. So much. Thank you for joining us, Nate. I love you.

Thank you for coming on. Our guest is here. So if you want to stick around, feel free to stick around. But it's time to start general topics. I have a question. This might fall flat because I might have some stuff screwed up. Andy, if you got kicked out of the Zoom call tonight,

do you need Tron to come and help you get back into the Zoom call? That's got to stay in there. You know, probably. I think that would probably be best for everybody's sake at that point. But if he's standing by and ready, then I'll be happy. All right. We'll make sure that Tron's around to be able to get you back in in case you get kicked out of here.

Yeah, I appreciate that. No problem. When Tron's around. Yeah. All right, that was my question. okay so um what do you guys drinking come on uh just just smash my second mic alter buddy oh i i noticed you got a brown bottle in your hand that's a rarity around here

yeah he's been cooking too and the first one was gone in like 30 seconds and the second one's almost gone and i'll probably switch over to water two's enough if that's not a guinness andy we're in trouble you know it's actually the edmund fitzerald porter from great lakes brewing ab you know what i take that sentence back and also Nate has a Great Lakes Brewing. It's empty, but it's It is that. There we go. That one's from my

from my tragedy series on Instagram. Keith's favorite. Yeah, yeah. It's like 9-11 real funny. Oh, I got a Keith's in my chill, drink spotter chill. It's empty, but it is a little.

this. And I have a, I've got an empty espresso cup. You can see the leftover crema on the inside. That explains everything. That was from this morning. I just haven't cleaned my desk up. And then I've got the Massonomics camper mug. That's also empty. I have this coozy. It's also empty. Just lots of empty things out there. Is your washer and dryer empty? I know. We're going to have an appearance of the way. I have, uh, this bro, this nice best. dad cup. I've broken twice. My wife has got me two different versions. They're both empty. And then I have this bottle of water and that's that's full of water. Chipotle water? No, this one is from

no, this one's from my house. I was trying to think. I did leave the house today. I couldn't remember what I did. It's house water. I had a weed a work Christmas party. Oh, I'm sorry. No, it was great. It was a good time. I'm going to mind January. Anybody wearing anything cool or? I am actually. I've got a little sack. Well, I'm wearing my sack, if you will. An anonymous delivery from Etsy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, pick.

Imagine that. So my sack, you know, I'm wearing, yeah. That's how you start all the podcast, isn't it? Well, I mean, there's underwear on, usually. I am actually wearing shorts tonight. It was a little nippy. A little Winnie Poo. Yeah, this is my favorite. But no, I've got an Etsy shirt showed up for me. And it's the fucking guy that I...

That's well. feral as elf as elf buddy what color is that shirt keith that's an orange shirt with will feral going across my tits that means you have to wear it yeah i'm actually gonna wear i'm wearing it tonight for the podcast and i've got an ugly sweater uh thing for my the strongman gym i go to saturday that if i go out to that i'll wear it as like my ugly sweater oh a sweater for a strong man sounds awful well i'm not to wear a t-shirt which is long sleeve shirt underneath of it and that'll be my ugly sweater uh i don't i don't own an ugly christmas i don't own a christmas i don't own a christmas shirt until now, and I definitely don't own a Christmas sweater, so this is my Christmas...

I've got a really jacked Santa one, and I think his butts on the back of it, if you want it, Keith. I'll get it to you by Saturday. All I got to do is get up and go to the bathroom, everyone sees my butt anyway, so we're good. Yeah. I pulled out the old, the original deadlifter tea. It was the first Massanomics tea I ever got. Shout out to Big Kevin for that one. Very good.

I have the unpaid and underrated hoodie on, and underneath I have my custom-made unpaid and underrated shirt because it's comfortable. Yeah, so... Well, I didn't get to say what I was wearing. I'm wearing a nice business casual... It looks like Keith Herring. It's not Pocodots, they're like paint splotches. This was my nice business casual work Christmas shirt.

I'm also wearing a nice pair of corduroys. Hold on, let me see, I'm going to give a... Swish, swish, swish, swish. I heard on the podcast the other day. And I'm wearing my Whatever company this is They make Instagram videos that I think are funny It's a little fisherman's beanie

In honor of the Edmund Fitzgerald So it doesn't cover my ears So I look like a big hipster Yeah, you do I was wondering why you're wearing a hat inside, you weirdo Because I put it on I met my family at the park After my work Christmas party

And I put it on because it was chilly And I didn't bring a coat Because I didn't realize I was going to go to the park A hat would fix hat, yeah And then I put a hat on And if I take it off I look even more bald

so I gotta leave that on yeah I just want to say I can't imagine not knowing who Keith or who sent that to Keith that couldn't be me shut up there wasn't a card so I'm sure it'll be anonymous

I'm thinking it was Joey E or carp but I don't know do you want to we'll never know do you want to I'll know forever a DNA test on it or something the wife can that that's her literal career so she could probably give it well I watched it now so now well no wait a minute it came from Etsy so I don't think that the seller the the purchaser had any

contamination on it there's only one way to find out yeah I'll mail it to you and then you can yeah yeah just contaminate it the whole way we'll get all the people um big mat and big jess their gym tour hit today I got to watch that it was dope um was at that gym I think a couple weeks after they record well a few months after they recorded it probably so it was really cool to be you know watch a gym tour of a gym that i was at and kind of like see matt's energy explaining pieces that i've kind of watched him explain in person before too so oh you know it's always nice to good friends get their flowers so i really enjoyed that video anybody else get a chance to get get some minutes in it to it yeah i was able to go through that one today that was pretty sweet

the amount of handmade and homemade stuff in that gym is really really awesome i was shocked he was talking about made this made that i was like that doesn't look homemade by any means. I know Tanner said it a few times in the video, but that was really impressive. Something about being Conjit makes you better at doing that or something. I did not get to watch it, but that's honestly a time constraint. I really want to. Well, if you were, I mean, I'm shocked Keith could watch it, you know, him being a dink.

Yeah, he's so busy. So busy. Us non-dinks didn't have any time to watch it, so. Actually, I had a brief lunch break today, so I was able to watch it before I drove back. Nate, before you bounce off, do you want to rate last week? episodes before us. Uh, yeah, I'd love to rate late. Shoot. Wow.

Do you, Big Keith? Words are tough. Yeah. We're letting you on eight episodes next year. I would love to rate last week's episode, Keith. Luckily, I can edit out any mistake I make. Wrong again, Nathan. I was, I had to kill my soundboard.

If anyone would like to donate to unpaid and underrated to help me buy a loopback, um, by origami, but it's very expensive, but it'll make a soundboard easier. Maybe someday I'll buy it. Ballpark, how much you're talking? $100. I think we could get... So, like, if we actually put a tangible number out there, like, I think, like, we could get no, I'll buy it on my... 30 crew to give us, like,

$4.00. Don't... No one give me money. I'll deal up. Big boy, I can deal with this myself. And also, it's for the soundboard. You hate, Keith, you don't want to do this. No, I don't. But also, it's hard to justify... I do like, Keith's like, I just want to get money. I don't care. I don't know. I just want people to show

that they care. That's all. Nate, it's almost like you know somebody who works at Best Buy. It can maybe get you a discount. On Rogue Amoeba software? Maybe. I don't know. I can look, though. They're like a small independent developer, but that would be cool. You take a look and let me know. I will.

Last week's episode, I loved it. And it was my favorite episode I've ever listened to. I was a little upset because. it did release um late uh yeah it did i watched it before on youtube but i saw a lot of people complaining about that that morning yeah i woke up um and went to do all my pre-workout rituals and one of those on mondays is starting the massanomics podcast wasn't there check the discord no one complained i figured it was just a me problem uh so i ignored it and came back after my workout and there was still nothing uh and i was like this is not just a me problem now it has to be a global

problem and I went to the discord and a little old tanner, you know, switch the AM PM. And which after that, hilariously, I checked our podcast CMS and it is in 24 hour time for the time selection. So we don't make mistakes like that.

That's right. Yeah. So does our podcast go home at like 1 o'clock in the afternoon thinking it's like 4 p.m. though? No, yeah, probably. Hey, we're not professionals. Yeah, episode was great. Love predictions. Love talking about, barbells and how much

Tommy spends on his home gym um yeah I love uh loved the AI ad read bit that was great um also just made me remember why I hate large language models but uh yeah that's that's what I rate it well I was hoping

oh I didn't rate it I just so that's what I review it I would like to yes um I yeah I remember how this podcast works um nine I'll be at 10 episodes when we're done for the year. I'm a professional.

I'm really glad I took the eight over then, Gazetti. Oh, too-sha. All right, I'm going to rate that episode five out of five yearly prediction episodes. Nice. There it is. Yeah, so, I mean, I think they had a time machine

and they saw that we were doing the yearly prediction episode, so they were kind of like, oh, that's a good idea. We should do ours. So they knock theirs out. Oh, I would like to also add, for my yearly predictions for next year that Massonomics will do a yearly predictions episode. I just want to put that in there.

I mean, that's bold. That's a bold statement. I mean, but yeah, I will give it five out of five big Nates because I thought it was a good episode as well. Andrew? I think my favorite part of the whole thing was them being bewildered by the amount of gym tours that they ended up going and doing and the amount of trips that they took to do it.

I'm also bewildered. Them talking about and realizing their prediction and how far off they were from it and how many more they did truly that was the best part was that they got to go and do so many that was probably my favorite bit but I definitely rate it

five out of five extra pounds of chalk on Tommy's garage floor I think my favorite part was that they did only have six guests the whole year because I think that was almost like four too many but yeah it was good stuff

uh yeah I would good episode loved every second of it uh I would definitely say that you're right it was really funny to see them absolutely surprised

at the amount of traveling they did especially with the Nashville tour and the big one coming out that was hidden from everybody

for so long I'm going to go ahead and give that episode five out of five barbells Tanner didn't buy did you get anything from the drop

anybody anybody I did yes what did you get oh I got the bolt t-shirt oh you didn't get that layout. I got that one last time. No, no, no, not the bolt one. My bad. No, the mass nomers logo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just not the bolt t-shirt. You're just lying to us.

I screwed that right up. Liar. Yeah, but I, uh, I liked that they did that on the bulky tea because I, first I was like, I don't think I want anything except maybe I'll buy my horse stall Macripper because I want the calendar. And that was sold out. And then I saw that that was on the bulky tea, which I have been loving bulky teas. So that, I looked at a lot. I looked at on that one. I bought... Oh, go ahead. No, Keith, after you, I insist.

Trying to get a good picture. Oh, well, in that case, I'll talk so you can get a good picture. We'll talk. Yeah. Uh, never mind. No, so I did... Well, I had that work party, and I came home, and I was in the middle of dinner,

and Keith and Joey asked me to get on the podcast early, and so I was trying to get dinner ready and getting the kids bat, bathe and get them in a place of my wife wouldn't hate me for just abandoning her after being at work and then going on this podcast I didn't tell you had to be on me just I know but I wanted to be because I love you guys and so

amidst all of that luckily Tanner used the powerful everyone tag and I saw the notification I was like oh shoot I almost forgot and I was real nervous because I had the goose hat in my cart from the last drop and then I was like

you know I don't I don't need this. And then it got sold out, and I was like, I needed that. I regret not buying it. And so I was happy to buy the hat. And then I also, I don't think it made an episode. I think I talked about it with Joey on Clayton's episode somewhere in a post show. But I didn't realize that the magnets that you got with the Black Friday order weren't the magnet pack that they released, like the Menards and all that stuff.

and so I didn't buy the magnet pack on Black Friday and my order showed up and I was vastly confused as to where my Menard's magnet was so I also bought that because I was a big old dummy oh and I got a calendar because I made an order hopefully I can't wait for that calendar yeah I'm I didn't have one last year I don't think and so I've just I that's why I haven't been able to keep up with time was that the fourth year they did it I think I don't think I'm not

I've got one of the calendars. Yeah, I think I've got all four of them. Actually, I think I threw all mine out when they were done, which is stupid, but. By God, I meant, I meant at some point I consumed them. Yeah. It's one of the only things that helps me keep track on the date right now is I wake up on the first and go, oh, I get to switch my calendar. And Morgan goes, and I go into the bedroom and rip off the calendar because I keep it right here. Are you guys familiar with Rabbit Rabbit?

No. Nope. Okay. That's Eminem's nickname, right? No, it's like a superstition it's like

you wake up on the first day of the month and you have to wake up and say rabbit rabbit I'm not going to do that the first thing you say when you wake up you say rabbit rabbit

I don't know there's a podcast I listened to forever ago shout out to Merlin Man David Benjamin actually it's related because the dude that was on that podcast

is the guy that started the podcast platform we use but they always every time they do a podcast at the first of the month. They'd say, rabbit, rabbit. No, no chance I do that. Okay, well, you just do calendar.

You just yell on calendar. I'm lucky if I Venmo my coach, let alone say fucking rabbit, rabbit. I forget it's the first. I have a reminder for like the 29th of the previous month every month, and I still manage to like forget, maybe it isn't the first, but regardless, I fucking forget to pay my coach. The other day, I was, yeah, can you do that on PayPal, though? I just do PayPal.

Sure. The thanks technically, Nate. What do I look like a bank? I'm not technically. bank technically a guy PayPal's not a bank well you're a bank I got a bank for you

it's all the same bank so big Nate this will be the this is not the last time you will be on the episode in 2025 but it's the last time you'll be recording in 2025 so anything you want to send off the fans you know any oh you know

uh you know uh... uh... but actually well here's this I think you only briefly touched base on you are expecting your fourth. I don't think we actually gave you your,

we have never really got to support our, you know, support our supporting podcast producer here. So Joey and I want to deeply congratulate your fourth girl. What am I missing here? It's a perfect time. Your screen just, you just froze in the midst of your,

we want to give you. I want to deeply congratulate you on blur, blur, blur. All right, well, so congratulations on the upcoming baby. Yeah. Are you guys excited? I mean, so three boys in a row and now having a girl, was that like what, obviously no one's disappointed in a kid, but like, have you guys been wanting a girl, basically? Yeah, we wouldn't have had a fourth child if the last one was a girl, so thanks, God. Now I have four children.

Well, it's better than going for five, right? Yeah, I don't know. Who knows? at this point why you just keep going my yeah who doesn't want 12 kids I've always said that um vasectomy crew over here

um oh dude big david's meme in the discord this week uh had me hold on me saying me saying vasectomy crew shooting the same blanks I was so proud of that joke I don't care I thought that was really funny

and then we had a literal urologist start like like actually chiming in with like medical uh suggestions get out of here with that's logical science yeah um andy how do you feel about having kids you know i have uh i i don't have any kids of my own but i have three sisters and let me tell you that was growing up with that was enough shared bathroom time for the rest of my life i think oh there you go easy app um no yeah it'll be great i'm super excited uh can't wait my wife still does not believe it's a girl after it's been more or less to confirm twice uh so

we'll see, I guess, in June officially, if it actually, yeah. Oh, okay, so this is just still, like, preliminary, it's a girl, or... Well, we did a blood test. Well, we did a blood test, which checks for the Y chromosome. Yeah, it would be, but if you're my wife, you wouldn't believe it. Also, yeah, that science doesn't necessarily always work. You're going to have to get that image. Well, so then we got an ultrasound at, like...

There it is, yep. But it was really, it's an early one, and it, the, It wasn't, everything's not big enough to tell if it's truly, it's not formed all that way yet. So there's a, um, there's a thing that you can look at in early ultrasounds called the general genital tublicer or something along those lines. Uh, and, uh, if it points, I think perpendicular, it means it's more than likely going to be a girl. And if it points parallel, it's, there's some, the direction matters in the, the snots stenographer, the ultrasound tech, uh, It's not a fucking Not a stenographer

Typest, you fuck. hilarious. I made that the second time. I made that mistake today. The court stenographer. You know, the one that takes the pictures of your baby? They, uh... You slow down and say that again.

The, uh, the ultrasound tech, uh, she's apparently been doing it for like 30 years. And she looked at it and she's like, I think it's a girl. Uh, and so... We still don't know. I guess I'll take back all the congratulations. You got to look for that face.

Yeah. That's the face of my wife's. That is my wife's face with my expression. Yeah. That's off, that side eye there. That's what you're going to get. And it's the best. Well, speaking of kids, I must go put mine to bed.

So I will leave you gents to it. I don't know how I'm going to clean up all of this episode that'll need cleaned up. But it's just literally let it go. That's future Nathan's problem. Let it go live. There's no reason. Just leave it, leave it as us. It's fine.

It'll be a great episode. You might as well. At this point, you might as well. Oh, you never know. All right. Love you guys. We'll see you next year. You got me.

Oh, buddy. Thanks. Hey, Andy, Andy, Andy, Andy. Who's the oldest on the podcast? Oh, Joey. Yeah, yeah, and Andy, Andy, how young are you? I just turned 28 last week. That jokes for the okay podcast crowd.

Thank you very much. Okay, bye. You're very welcome. See you. Night, buddy. All right, big Andy, do you have a Masonomics sponsor read for us ready to go? I actually have a read less for a sponsor of the Massanomics podcast, but more about the massanomics podcast.

And this one's coming from the heart. This one was inspired by last week's U&U episode, actually, where you guys were all talking about crew falls, and that was pretty brilliant. But truly, the last year of my experience with Massanomics, let me tell you, everybody out there listening, there's something special about this group, the way that everything from Tanner remembering your name

to Keith handing you a sticker and maybe not remembering your name. Yes. And then a FaceTime call from Joey in the middle of the gym. him when we're all out there deadlifting with each other. It's those little moments that for me over and over again and a chance to get to know some of these people, whether it be digitally or in person or somewhere in the middle, I'm telling you, you got to go and sign up for it. Give Massonomics a listen. Keep listening to you and you. Use code unpaid on the Masanomics website. Probably not to save anything, but the next time you see Keith, he'll give you a

sticker. And Joey will probably laugh and have a joke with you. It's fair. Yeah. Did you guys talk about that on the episode? Did I miss that? I don't know. I don't know. There was like seven people, man. It was a lot.

I don't recall. There was a small comment, but. We wish to have a birthday, though, so there's that. No, I got to see, I got to be, I got to see big spicy pizza's lifts. I got to see Tommy's lifts. I got to see somebody squat. Might have been you, actually. But, yeah, it was just one of those things where I happened to be in front of my computer.

My wife was out of the house. my son was out of the house and my daughter was napping. So I was like, hey Gary, I have a question about something. And then I was like, wait, are you at the gym right now? And he's like, yeah. And I'm like, oh my God, can we FaceTime? And he took me, kudos to Gary to everybody. I just wanted to be like there for a minute.

And he literally walked around the gym trying to find every single crew member he could find. And I don't think I had a chance yet to to show. out that out. So thank you for bringing that up. That was, to me, that was incredible. That was a huge part of me missing it, but also getting to be there. And saying hi to everybody, witnessing some of those giant lifts that everybody was so proud of. And yeah, so thanks, Gary, and thanks, Andrew, for bringing that up. Yeah, that was pretty awesome. Seeing him go around, everybody, everybody's face would light up when they saw you. It was great. Yeah. Is this live? Is he here now? Everybody was like that.

except for Keith. Keith was like, oh, hey. Like, Keith was not happy to see me at all. I think I was at dinner. And I was, I don't remember. No, you were in Los Campionis. And I had like 50 people in person to chill with. Yeah. Yeah.

And Gary's like, here's somebody you're familiar with. And Keith is like, hey, you. Yeah. This guy. I literally talk to you more than I talk to my wife. I feel sometimes. I know. I'm just teasing.

in you, bud. You got some affiliates for us there, Big Joe. I do. I do. Big shout out to Obsidian. Travis is doing good. He's recovering. What was his, was it like, I thought it was like an ankle surgery and then Lucity, like, or I saw a story where he had like some major complications or something. I think it's all been resolved, but it looked like they're.

No. There are some brain issues with Travis. So what was happening was they were, they were doing something to fix them and it triggered Seizures, so they had to keep them in a bit longer, yeah. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah, I was way off. Yeah, way off.

Plate snacks, get your barbell end caps from plate snacks. I know it's all fun to ask Tanner to do them, but you can just order them yourself. And use code unpaid there to save 10%. And belt, bed strength. Yeah, it was in the Discord where somebody was like, hey, do you guys do these? And I was like, well, you can just order them yourself. Yeah, all they wanted Masonomics. Yeah, and he's like, they could partner with.

I mean, granted, like, they're not going to get, like, we don't get anything for our thing being on their website. So, like, they wouldn't, maybe they just don't want to necessarily spread themselves thin. But that would. But also, you can just message plate snacks and say, I want this and get it. Yeah, but to be like, hey, steal this person's logo and put it on this sticker for me. And then, like, say, what if you buy like 100 of them and then start selling them yourself and then you're that asshole stealing someone? So I get why plate snacks maybe wouldn't do that without like thumbs up from Tommy and Tanner. I can see that, but also like, anyway.

And belt fed strength. Go see Chris and get yourself a really premium leather lifting belt. His stories today mocking some like douchebag in a Jeep that was like all it was just it was like the quintessential Chris. And it was I laughed so hard watching his stories just picking on this guy. and it was all like like scald out essentially and I was like oh this is he's a he's a good dude so code unpaid saves you some money at all of those not all of those give us kickbacks as you just heard and some of them do but it doesn't matter it gives you some kickbacks so go ahead and visit them time to kick all these uh I think we got big sanchis we got to kick him

out of the group chat here and uh see if they can get that guess on the horn right Big Andrews at you, buddy I'm here, how are you guys? Hey, hey, Hong Kong Yes, sir, Hong Kong. Welcome to the Unpaid Underrated Podcast. So just go ahead and introduce yourself real quick for us. Who you are, name, Instagram, Discord, all that.

Yeah, Big Andy here, Colin from Rochester, Minnesota, the other Rochester, as those who follow Keith know. Which one's bigger? I'm curious. I think yours might be. And New York is the biggest state in the world Well, yeah, it's vast I love that that joke is picked up

They dropped it in the podcast Or in the Matt and Justice video A call from From Rochester, Minnesota Where it's currently a blizzard outside You can find me on Instagram At sbd.andy And you'll see me on there

Otherwise, I'm in the Discord somewhat infrequently And a long-time listener First Time caller on the unpaid and underrated podcast. Well, shout out to your audio, Claudia. It's pretty good. Yeah.

Don't get to say that very often. No. So what? Now, you've got the OG shirt, but I got to know what brought you to Massonomics, and you can't blame your cousin. I can blame him for starting me on the journey.

How about that? If you know Big Kevin, you know that he loves this stuff, everything from his spreadsheets to his weight plates and everything is very precise. And I remember years and years ago seeing him lift in his basement and thinking, huh, that's kind of interesting. That's kind of cool. But I never lifted weights at the time.

I was a rock climber for a long time before I started lifting. And then went out to visit him and saw his home gym for the first time in probably 20, 22, I think it was. And the rest is history, so to speak. I went out a couple more times and just got to lift with him. and his gym, got to hang out, I drink some beers, and enjoy some good time together. And from there, instead of going to the Lift Hard Live Easy Classic in 2023, the first year, I went out to Cleveland to do a mock meet on the same day with Big Kevin out there in his basement gym.

Yeah. And I just had a blast. I had no idea what I was doing training for it. And it was just the most fun. just having a day where we could go and push each other and have a good time and then I got back home after him telling me all about

Masonomics and he sent me a shirt courtesy of Massonomics and they put in a note and something along the lines of hey you got to sign up now now that Big Kevin says so and so here I am I'm not going to lie the

yeah exactly I couldn't afford not to I knew I wanted to go out to Western Northeast South Dakota the following year to get out to the Lyft Harle Visi, which is where I met both of you guys in person for the first time. But that was the story. So getting to, I know it's, so you're in Minneapolis, so you're less than six hours from, well, no, six hours to Aberdeen, like five and a half. So how did you fly or drive to Cleveland in 2023?

How far, how far of a drive was that? That's about 12 hours. Okay, so instead of driving six hours and don't live, Well, I mean, I guess you weren't crew at that point and you would have already had to be an end. So it's kind of, it doesn't make sense that you would have showed up. But it's just kind of funny, like to assist, geography-wise, that he literally drove double to hang out with Kevin and lift in his basement rather than coming to Everd, come into the dean and hanging out with 100 strangers. So, I mean, it makes sense why you didn't. But going forward, it makes sense why also Kevin can't make it every year.

And you probably will because it's not that big of it. Right. Yeah, exactly. I mean, even, what was it, about a month ago, I took a day trip out. to lift the masonomics gym just because i could you know i had the day off of work i didn't have anything else to do and just jumped on the road early in the morning i remember seeing that for a little bit was it but so wasn't anything specific you were just like up i'm just going to show up and hope the gym's open kind of thing and pretty much coordinate to kind of be there when tanner

was i just sent him a message saying hey is the gym going to be open can i get in kind of thing and he said yeah i'll be there about this time and i made arrangements i just left early enough so that i'd get there about when he would be there that's pretty cool i did uh do you know i on Discord. Tanner posted a video. It's one of Anthony's buddies who lives in Aberdeen and is like an Olympic weightlifter that has a home gym. And he did a tour video essentially of Massonomics gym like a year ago. But like I never saw it until Tanner posted it like last week. And actually watched the whole thing. It was pretty interesting. So like watch someone had no clue about massonomics whatsoever and do like a walk through the gym. And he kind of like essentially broke in and like just left $15 cash on the table because there's no way to get it. Because Tanner doesn't do day passes really. He just like. like kind of meets you there or just let you know when it's open and he just didn't early reach out to Tanner first. It was just really interesting. I guess since Anthony had talked to him into joining crew. Anyway, it was just a really cool video to watch with a completely different perspective of seeing the massonomics gyms, the massonomic gym from a complete

and, you know, common person, not crew related perspective. So if you haven't seen that, just look back in Discord or asking Anthony, he'll send you the video. It was very interesting. Get back on track on you though. That was really cool. that you made it a special trip just to go out to the dean. It was also to give Tanner the Minnesota MSS-NMX plate from my old car. So I had to drop that off with him. They didn't, how's that work? Like, you can't just, like, transfer your plates, or was it?

I got a new vehicle, and they sent me new plates for the new car. And so I had the spare ones off the old one. And so I just took one of those out to him. I have to turn. We have to, New York State. You have to turn your plates in or they get fined. and I bet even like there's there's definitely like legal ramifications of some sort if you don't turn your plates in interesting that's that's pretty cool so were you

worked out she were to where you were able to keep a spare for yours then like you just have like one hanging up on the wall now that's pretty sick yeah yeah it is that's my contribution mm-hmm um so what is the one piece of massonomics merch you're missing out on you know i i did not get the lift jorts i have the camo jorts but not the lift jorts and i think that's that's one thing that stands out to me i did get some lift jorts uh from oh who's the company that makes them that massanorm primitive that's it yeah i did get some from them but they're not the they don't have the masanomics logo on the back leather so it's not really the same thing but aside from that i would love some massanomics like sweatpants or

joggers or something. I saw Tanner wearing Summit Crew Falls and I just thought that's really cool. I think that's the first person to say the Jorts. Yeah, I probably. Because they were there for a while, I feel. No, no. They ordered, they ordered the blue. I think they did the camo. They might have done black. I guess I was just, we were so inundated of them from

Lift Hard Leveezy 1 that I just assumed anyone that wanted a pair had a pair because like there were like, you know, I would never wear, but I don't know the body type for. for tight denim or even That's fair I still have mine I see them all the time and think man I want to wear those

But that is like my lasting image Of Lifford Levisy one was just Because like they They hooked up the spotter and loaders With them too Yeah I remember Every spotter and loader was wearing them Which was a great publicity

I mean they probably lost Several hundred dollars doing that But it was still Well you get you know that You got that Hall of Fame card You know where you're at I sure do You know what today is actually

This is actually This is number 12 right here. Oh, shit. Yes. Tanner, get this man a cup. But, you knew you were scheduled. You probably could have got a,

you probably could have on a cup at Crew Falls. I was close enough, but. He wouldn't want to do it early. Yeah, that would be breaking the rules. Oh, you're such a little bitch about that, aren't you? You're comparing like three months to 20 days. Oh, it has nothing to do with me. It has nothing to do with me, my friend.

Well, Tanner is the decider of that And he decided No, it really just comes down to how much I can bother you, let's be honest It's all right, it just gets me route up And then I say shit that people might get offended by But I don't care Because fuck all of you

That think I didn't deserve it Oh no, you totally did Absolutely, you earned that 20 days early That's fine Was that like build them up with a compliment And then knock him down with a fucking insult some of those corporate fucking things.

Oh, sure. No, that's awesome. So you'll get a cup and are you going to go out to Kevin's for, well, are you going to head your way to the Arnold then? Yeah, yep, absolutely. Do you tell Tanner you need a cup at the Arnold? So, yeah, I'll tell Tanner, I need a cup at the Arnold. And I think he knows that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's cool. Yeah. He'll know because he's not Tommy. He listens. But they'll also mail the cop. The cop, they'll mail. I'd rather get in a person anyway. Oh, that's fair.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, just let up know. Yeah, they mailed me the cup. I'm trying to remember. Oh, really? I'm trying to remember my cups here. I don't remember that. I think.

I think I got the cup. Were you? Two, maybe. Two, right? I think I remember seeing you up there getting it, Keith. That sounds right. Because there was like, yeah, because usually there's a bunch of, well, like, the first two years, a shit's enough people got cups. And then it's like, I think Tanner even told us, like, the cups have kind of dropped off the last year or so.

He's only like a few here and there just because everyone, everyone that was close got him and everyone else isn't close. Yeah. I'll never remember because I when you sent me the thing actually I went and found it for Big Nick I was at 12 the day the Hall of Fame was launched oh wow so I was able to but I don't remember how I got the yeah I think I was like I was at 13 maybe I don't actually no I wasn't I was at 11 yeah I think most like a lot of us were like 10 or 9 or 10 you see you have filled it out for me yeah I did and you sent it to me going I think this is where you're at and I was at 12 and I was like actually you're right

and I don't remember how I got my cup I don't know if they mailed it or if I picked it up at Lived Hivisi might have got at the Arnold too it was not at the Arnold no it was not at the Arnold

I don't know man I'm barely remember in mine so I can't remember Yeah life is hard All right So you are officially gonna be in the Welcome to the Hall of Fame

Thank you So with that Are you gonna have a Do you have a Do you have a cert certified training facility I do actually So it's not, it's a, it's a commercial gym. And well, maybe not commercial is how I describe it.

It's a, it's a locally owned family gym here in Rochester, Minnesota, not New York. You have to specify that every single time you say Rochester the entire night. I will. Just say my, just say my Rochester. That's true. That would work too. Yeah, my Rochester, not yours. It's, it's the District 507 gym.

It's at District 507 gym on Instagram to check them out. It's a little 24-hour bodybuilding. style gym, but they got just legit equipment, some really, really cool, some cool dumbbells, some old school style of dumbbells for some of them, some great bodybuilding machines, some, a couple of racks, a great deadlift platform, proper power bars, which I always appreciate, not just regular barbells, but Ty and Maria, the owners out there, absolutely awesome. And I moved to Rochester, my Rochester, just about a year, a year and a half ago for work. And didn't know anybody in town, didn't really have anything to do except for go to the gym.

And I found that gym. And that's been a second home away from home from me. So huge shout out to them. But definitely check them out. They're on the certified training facilities map. So check them out there. Nice. Well, mainly why I asked was because now you have a cup level icon on the map rather than just, you know, just, what the fuck is?

It's just a pin dot if you're not cup level or jacket level. Yeah, I think it is. Nice. You'll be in, I don't think there's a ton of cups in Minnesota either. I'm trying to think of like other crew in Minnesota. I guess, well, no, a lot of the Minnesota Department of Lifter Safety are actually Jacket. Oh, sure. Well, yeah, so there's a fair amount. Are you close enough to any of those guys to hang out with them or lift with them at all? Not being down in Rochester here. I'm about an hour, hour and a half south of the cities. But when I'm, when I'm up there, I've run into a couple of them here and there a couple of times. And I'm just going to have to do better about seeing them. more often. Yeah,

then maybe we're setting up a, you know, just text and me like, hey, when's there a good time, like, is there like four of you at, like, Lose one day on a Saturday, I can car, a day that you have off and try to get a little, like, massonomics lift together. That'd be pretty cool. Yeah, it'd be a lot of fun. The deal. So let's, we're going to, we didn't get, we currently don't know this, because usually we use the supporting membership number as your episode title, but we kind of did a little

interesting beginning here, but I'm going to guess, so you joined last, last, year ish. So you're, are you in the 400s or you're in the 300s? You're either higher 300s or low fours. I'm in the 200s. I joined in 23. Yeah, buddy. Right after, it was right after the first Lift Hardly Visi classic that I did not attack. Yeah, yeah. In my head, I was, I was a year off in my head. So yeah, you're right, you're right. Yeah, that's actually dope then. You're, uh, you know, getting lower and lower every day.

Yeah, number 284 out here. Oh, is that the gold card? it is indeed i got that right here too he's holding it i love it i'd love to see it uh so when you sent this out to a bunch of people how did you explain this podcast to your friends i'll be honest some of them i didn't explain it i just sent hey fill this out and a lot of them did which i think is really cool and they did really well i i will say this is one of the times i did not have to clean up a lot of dumb shit so thank you for that and thank you all your friends for that where I will add the caveat, though.

I think a bunch added notes today or yesterday after I had already copied them into the show notes. And then when I was looking briefly today, I was like, fuck, there was like seven new submissions. So then I had to like scramble to get those added to the dock. But they're kind of, they're in there. What does you have to go look for them? But yeah, you had a lot of people, you had, you've had 22 people submit. I think the other, the best we've had before that was like teens. Sweet.

Let's go. That's a PR. That's a you and UPR. It is. It really was. Well, I explained it as just a lot of people know that I have done the powerlifting for a couple of years now. And a lot of people know that I'm big in the gym just in general. So I've explained it as this is an affiliate podcast, the sister podcast, to the group that does all of the hosts all the powerlifting stuff that I've done.

And it's just a bunch of guys being silly geese and having a good time talking about the fun times they have together and getting to know each other. Affiliate Podcast I mean I guess that's We are in affiliate Like we think of the term Affiliate as like all like money based and you know Codes and stuff But I guess affiliate would not be the worst description

Well You're the affiliate All right Big Andy are you familiar with the game we call These Fun Most Fun Is that something you know how to play Bring it on Let's do it

Would you explain that to your 22 friends That may or may not listen Can I let you do it? Is that okay? So, yeah, absolutely. It's your show, and I just, I enjoy you guys hosting. That's fine. That's fine.

I'm a little, uh, let's see how two Mick Ultra is, uh, is it a little rusty. It's like, yeah, you, I, I love when people take me up on it and, like, do it. And then it is funny if they, like, they, like, they fuck it up. And I'm like, ah, see, it's not easy, is it? Uh, all right. So least fun, most fun. Very original game that Joey and I came up with a couple years ago, a couple months, uh, some point in the last few years.

Uh, going to give you a single topic or, you know, thing, and you're going to go through it and give me the least fun thing about said topic and the most fun thing about it. This is not either or this isn't, you know, pick one or the other. It is, I need a descriptive answer on both. Use your druthers. Take as long as you want to talk about it. So least fun, most fun. Being the MVP of Crew Falls.

And if anyone's not familiar with this term, I wasn't really sure what Tanner was talking about it, but I used context clues and, you know, once he described who he was talking about and then named a couple of the, you know, front runners of who it would be. essentially the most tuned up at Crew Falls is how I is interpreting when Tanner referred to you

and a couple other people was frontrunners of MVP but I'm going to give you the award of MVP of Crew Falls under that from what I heard it was the people

that stayed out the latest it really is so that has to be said first and foremost it's not just the people who stayed out the latest it's Big Tron looking out for me

big Marissa looking out for me And looking out for each other. I think that's like, they're the real MVP's, first of all. That has to be stated clearly. Huge shout out to those guys. I think the most fun has been so far and will continue to be the stories. Because we all know how much we enjoy those just here on the podcast and then the crew in general.

It's great. And I think the stories really, really make it. So I think that's probably got to be the most fun. The least fun, probably Sunday morning. Yeah. Yeah, I was expecting that. I know Keith, you talked about it too. Oh, God, it was horrible.

Yeah. I was originally going to drive back to the cities on Saturday night, and then the blizzard hit, and I was like, nope, not doing that. And then the night turned into what it did, and I'm very grateful for it. I had a blast with everybody, but that Sunday morning was rough. Yeah, you get your name dropped a lot between their episode and our episodes. So it would be a pretty cool week for you, for sure. Yeah, absolutely.

Awesome. That is a good answer. What do you got for them, Joy? I'm going to hit them with the regular one, the irregular one. If you had your chance to train with anybody, you got one training session and their past, present, fictional, alive, dead, who are you picking?

Who would you like to do one training session with? I think that if I was to choose one individual, I would probably have to say somebody like Christopher Lee who played Saraman and Lord of the Rings who has this huge, if you don't know the story behind him, look him up. It's pretty incredible the things that he did from

Secret Service stuff in World War II to having his own metal band when he was in his 90s to being like he met and knew Tolkien and then played Saramon in the Lord of the Rings. He was a obviously huge actor. But he just

in general, a badass dude and insane life, insane stories. So Christopher Lee Yep. Was it a metal band? Yes, when he was in his 90s. He has a Christmas album. What the

fudge? Look it up. It's incredible. Of course I know who he is. He's Christopher darn Lee. Did he not play Dracula as well? Yep, sure did. He was the dad in Willy Wonka. the chocolate factory, he, wow, okay. Incredible answer. I think that's who I would want to train

with. For one session, one day, just, I get the impression that you would have an awesome training session with him. Well, just his voice in general. Oh, yeah, no better motivation. All right. Well, that's a good answer. Outstanding. Okay. Do you guys, you want to get into the notes there, Keith. Yeah. So Big Andy, I think most people know you are some kind of pilot and some sort of military. A lot of us learn this weekend, you have a couple other, or at least one other job. So as much or as little as you want to talk about your career, let us hear it. Yeah. I'm, my primary career is with Best Buy. I've been there for quite a few years. I've worked in the store, retail stores, everything from sales and selling big TVs to move in shelving and

sweeping warehouses. You name it. I've done it. But I have truly enjoyed. every minute. Getting to know people, making an impact on people has been one of my favorite things that I've done, and I've been very grateful to have had a positive impact on a lot of people there. The other side of my life is in the military. I enlisted a few years ago, and I am now currently a C-130 flight engineer, which is almost a pilot, but not quite a pilot. And the easiest way that I have to describe it is while the pilots are flying the airplane and the navigator is telling us where to go. I'm kind of the conductor of the orchestra, so to speak. I make sure that everything is happening in sync in the airplane. I get to run all the systems on

the airplane, pre and post flight inspections, all kinds of stuff like that. But it is an incredible job. I've been able to see the world travel quite a lot, met some incredible people. I'm very grateful for a lot of people in my unit and the work that I've done there. But that's been an awesome experience and it's the best part-time job in the world. I'm firmly convinced of that. That sounds awesome. That sounds very awesome. Is that something, is you have aspirations of like being a pilot and like doing pilot like in like forever job? Or this is just like you're kind of where you're at and that's just get what it's going to be while you're in the reserves? You know, while I'm in the reserves, this is certainly somewhere that I'm very happy being and I have

no problem staying exactly where I am. If the possibility down the road were to open up to, to take it further, I'm more than open to it. Absolutely. But I, like I said, the unit that I in the people that I'm that I'm surrounded by there are nothing short of incredible. So I have no problem staying where I am for as long as possible. Very cool. Very cool. Very few people can be that positive about anything they do that pays them. So that's awesome to hear. I haven't had that energy in anything in a long time. So I mean, I guess this, but this podcast pays us right? We're just, we're just waiting for the residuals to come in. If that counts, then yeah, I've been happy to do stuff. There you go.

um so lifting you've you know you're in your late 20s so what's your lifting been looking like started off my fitness journey i played sports growing up but then i was a rock climber for quite a few years never lifted weights in my life and then i got into lifting accidentally i took an uber to a rock climbing gym in a tiny little town in texas the place was boarded up and i was angry so i went to the base gym and started lifting weights not knowing what i was doing and the rest is history so to speak funny but now i've i've been on a journey of still not really knowing what i'm doing but grateful for a lot of great training partners around me whether it be consistently over a period of time or just one-off people here and there from people down in down in rochester my

rochester here at district 507 the wrong rochester wow okay uh there it is uh so how how long go I think when that fateful Uber ride took place, give or take? I was back in 2019, so it's been six whole years. Gotcha. So in that six years, you went, so were you like 20, 30 pounds lighter when you're a rock climber?

Or you obviously have put some muscle mass on, because I have friends that are like self-precaring block climbers, and they don't look like they touch barbells because they really don't. They really don't. Very athletic in a different, complete way. Like, they can do shit that we can't do, but they are not like barbell enthusiasts.

Yeah, I definitely was. I wrestled in high school at 120 pounds, 130 pounds, kind of weight, and people used to say I looked like Captain America before he took the serum, which I know their intention was good, but it's also a little like, all right, come on. Yeah, hold on. That's super not in good intentions. That's super fucking funny. So that has kind of inspired me to just say, no, I'm going to train hard regardless of where I am and what I'm doing. doing. I'm going to train hard and I'm going to get strong and get as big as I can. So here I am. Six years later. That's awesome. I'll let you in a bit of a secret. None of us really know what we're doing. Like, yeah, ultimately we're picking up heavy things and putting them down again. And some of us pretend to know that we're doing it better than anybody else.

But really, that's all we're doing is getting strong by picking up. stuff we're not supposed to pick up. Lots and lots of heavy circles. Has Kevin influenced you at all to think of dipping your toes in any strongman? You know, he hasn't gotten me into Strongman. Not yet. He was very close to convincing me to sign up for this next summer. Both he and Big Andrew Levano out in Cleveland as well are doing Strongman.

And I'm stoked to see them lift out there. I'm looking at doing bodybuilding, actually, this next year as well as the powerlifting at Lift Hardly Veezy. So that's going to be my extra challenge for the year. And we'll see about Strongman the year after. How, how, whoa, okay, hold on. So you're going to do a powerlifting meet and a bodybuilding meet? Yes. Me, show, sorry, my bad.

What's the timeline in between those? Because that doesn't add up, man. Yeah. It, uh, I haven't picked a bodybuilding show yet, but there's a couple I'm looking at and actually I'm probably looking at just doing, focusing on the bodybuilding show and just coming out to do powerlifting at the lift heart of easy because it's a ton of fun and not worrying as much about the weight that I push there. Okay. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. Had me scared for a second there. I was like, you're not going to try and like,

you know, for a bodybuilding meet and, or show, sorry, and also power lift like that. That's, you'll hurt yourself, to be honest. Yeah. But yeah, you're still going to be lifting. So you'll know what you're capable of. But, you know, obviously, if you cut, you cut 30 pounds or something, you're not going to be lifting, you know, 500 pounds or whatever. You know, what you're used to. So, but that would still be cool.

It'd actually be, you know, you should get it. You should honestly tan up for the Lips Hard Live Easy. Oil up, just to like, get them oiled up. Full bodybuilder season. Like, it's a ditty party. For sure. Yeah. Yeah, you can edit that one out.

I don't know. That's true. so I learned I did learn something from you at Remedy I learned you were very I didn't really know I don't think we talked to I mean we conversed over the last couple years but we you know had a little more interactions this year very animated young man and you don't like being called young I did learn that I think at one point I was like aren't you like 20 and like you like fell on the floor like offended and when I say you fell on the floor I literally think

you fell on the floor similar to what you did probably yeah Um, so yeah, that's just, um, your personality. You're just, I don't think I caught that in previous years of just how outgoing you were and animated you were. And, uh, you guys were having a pretty heated discussion about how Hannahick doesn't read and you were offended or her book choices. And you're just, uh, you know, you had very strong, strong opinions that, you know, you were not, you were not, uh, relenting on any of them from what I recall. I, I think that's a compliment. So thank you. I'm going to take it as such at any rate. The outgoing, I think is a good thing. Yeah, yeah.

But no, I think you're right. And I think around different groups that can change. And that's with everybody, right? And with Massonomics, it's taken a little bit of time. But I think coming out to the Lift Hardly Veezy and coming out to Crew Falls on my own this year. And by on my own, I mean, not with Big Kevin. Love the guy to death, absolutely. And I'm sad he couldn't make it.

But it did force me out of my show a little bit more. you weren't big cousin you weren't big Kevin's cousin this this what December as like before we might have been like oh yeah that that's that's you know that's Andy you know Kevin's cousin this year no it's just that that's Andy

he's your cousin now exactly that's right that's right he hasn't been to as many things oh yeah that that is one checkmark he might not he might not ever get you said that like you've you've never done strong man but you did the Ohio Stones of Strength we okay that is actually

a good point. I've never competed in Strongman. I went out in September, I think it was, to see, to see Kevin and hang out with him and the family for just a few days. And we did a hike when we were out there. Was this this year or last year? This might have been last year. I think this was actually like a year ago, but we went out to one of the state parks out there and we did one of the Ohio Stones of Strength together. And I wasn't able to shoulder it, but it was a ton of fun getting out there and just picking it up and moving, moving heavy stuff off the ground i like i had a blast doing it stone lifting is it's not a thing i post enough of um but i do love just picking up rocks like it's my favorite thing yeah we do my family

has a trip planned out to scotland here just after christmas in about a week and i have already found a few a few stones that i plan on going out to to see if i can hoist well some of those the ground. Some of those you have to book in advance, so make sure you check that out. I have, yep. I got a couple options, but it's going to be a ton of fun. Can't wait to see that. Go ahead. I was just going to say SBD Andy on Instagram. You'll see it there. I think I follow you. Is that the same account where we see all you're dancing at? Which dancing?

That question. There's a million difference. The swing dance. And there was some, you, you were on a pretty famous news channel, uh, feature. Oh, sure. Right. Yeah. That, that, that is my other account. That's which I haven't posted on in probably a year and a half.

Oh, it really was. I didn't know it was a separate. That is actually funny. There's a separate. I was making a joke in a separate account. It really was. Look at you with multiple accounts. It's a pain in the ass, isn't it?

Yeah, it really is. I'm sure you understand. You probably manage three at this point. Yeah, at least. But did you want to, you don't, you don't have to lie. I mean, it was mentioned a thousand times about your dancing and being on the news, so I don't know if you wanted to go into that or not. Feel free, too, or not, but it doesn't matter.

That was, yeah, I've been swing dancing for 15 odd years. Granted, not much in the last year. But before that, yeah, I was dancing socially multiple times a week, going out to T.C. swing. Shout out to Terry and Cindy out there. Got to know them super, super well over the last few years. And they, good morning America came out to Minneapolis, was doing a thing right around the 4th of July.

in 2023, I think it was, maybe 2024. And so they asked for a few dancers and they asked me to go out there and do it, which was really, really cool. I don't think I'll ever have an experience quite like that again. So this is your Key West in 2023 story? Oh, that story. Yeah. No, that's a different story.

Oh, yeah. Let's hear that one. I've been to Key West two different times, actually. So I got to think of which one 2023 was, but that was a good one. We went out there. That one was a work trip at which the people we were escorting out there were flying out there. Gracefully did not have to work over the weekend. So we didn't have to work over the weekend, which was great.

So it was a very similar night to, if you were out at Crew Falls this year, it was a very similar night to Saturday night out at Pave as far as the vibes were concerned. We had a blast and then went... went mostly skydiving the next day. Wow. Yeah. So how did you earn free drinks? Oh, that's story.

Yes. Oh, that's the picture you need to. That's the picture you need, Keith. I'm remembering who I sent this to. So to put this, I want to say this with some amount of grace. Of course. Key West is... Key West is a pretty primarily gay party town.

I, while not being gay myself, I understand that going and sitting to read a book in a jazz bar by myself has in the past been construed in certain ways by certain people. Yeah, that's fair. And I spent... What book was it? At the time, I think I was reading a Ben McEnachman. I think I was reading a Ben McIntyre, World War II espionage, kind of thriller, sort of book.

Did you have the mustache? I'm just trying to paint the picture here. No, I did not have the mustache. This is gorgeous for me, okay. What is this is three mustache? What does a mustache mean? This is free mustache. I was, I was baby face Andy.

and I truly, and I still do this to this day is I will go and I'll sit at a bar I know people will sit at a coffee shop but I like sitting at a bar in the evening and I like being around people but not with people I can read my book I can kind of people watch I can take my time have a Guinness have a cocktail whatever it might be but I did find this jazz bar that had live jazz which I'm a sucker for

and I sat there for probably quite a few hours sitting and reading and just with a cocktail in front of me enjoying jazz and the cocktails just kept showing up in front of me so that's that story and then my buddy came and showed up

and we spent the rest of the evening together just out wandering around from bar to bar but it was a heck of an evening for sure there's a a pub I used to go to and it was the same thing I would go not the same thing at all

but you didn't have a mustache yeah it's when I was in university I could go there and read quietly and yeah and I would just sit there and have a Guinness and just like relax and read and I have been going there now

for 21 years wow yeah so we went there on my birthday on Saturday and walked in and all the regulars were there because it was a big party that I didn't know about. I would just happen to walk in on my birthday. And there is the one story of the guy that says, you used to come here for almost 10 years

and not talk to any of us. And you would sit there and read by yourself. And we all let you do that until you are comfortable enough to talk to us. Yeah. So I get what you're saying where like some people go to coffee shops and some people go to pubs. It's fine.

we don't all go to clubs in the Key West to listen to jazz but that's fantastic that's a good story yeah that's good I want to hear sorry this one's so you were deadlifting mixed grip

with straps that's got to be that's got to be big Kevin sending that one in Okay, yes, that's Kevin sending that in. So the first time I ever deadlifted 405, I was probably six months, no, I must have been maybe a year. Between six months and a year into my lifting journey, I had no idea what I was doing. And I had straps, and I had seen Kevin using mixed grip on Instagram. So I was like, oh, that's the thing to do.

So me, not knowing anything at all, I put the straps on and grab the bar with a mixed grip. And very sloppily deadlifted 405 with an awful, awful sumo deadlift stance. It was horrible. I have the video still. But yes, that's that story. It was a horrible, horrible attempt. I did pull it, but it was not. It was, uh, yeah.

Would you do it again? No. No, I wouldn't. Absolutely not. Yeah. What kind of straps? Figure 8s or regular? Just regular that you wrap around the bar.

Yeah. No, that was not fun. I remember that still thinking like, I'm kind of holding onto the bar, but I'm also kind of not. And it's, I don't know if it's helping. I also wasn't using chalk. I just, I don't know. I was probably still 145 pounds, 150 pounds

kind of thing. Like I was not a big dude still. Oh, how far we've come? Have you gotten, so have you gotten bigger than Kevin in the last couple years? No.

You're definitely not. Okay. I'm still, similar size, though. He's probably got 15, 20 pounds on me at this point. My regular body weight's about 165. Gotcha. So what do you think you're going to cut to

when you actually get on stage? Like, what is like, what is like the lower, have you done a fair amount of research on the bodybuilding or is it just like is it just like 160 and below or is there like a 130 or 140 category you're trying to get it down to i haven't i haven't gotten that in depth on it yet um i well that's my normal body weight i'm up to about 180 right now so i'm

a little bit bigger at the moment and then cutting down from that obviously would be different yeah like eat eat a eat a shit ton to maintain that if you it's you notice like if you don't like focus on getting like fucking 3 000 calories a day or something you're just like dropping weight like crazy? Yeah. Yep. Yeah. And then he's going to have to cut after that hard, um, from what I've seen.

So you'll, you'll get to the, I weigh right now 155. It's the lightest I have been in 10 years. I don't know. Yeah. Well, it's the, it's the new job. I, I'm doing 10 to 15,000 steps a day. So like, of course I'm going to lose some weight. Um, but like with the bodybuilding.

like you're going to have to you gain that and then you're going to cut it without losing the muscle mass yeah i i do not envy you i think you might be one of the first bodybuilders we've had on here and i don't know that i would call myself a bodybuilder yet but yeah one day yeah one day well you're doing more than most of us have ever done so i'm going to call you the first bodybuilder we've had on here so kudos to you that looks hard it looks grading. It looks difficult. So congratulations. Yeah. Have fun the next nine months. That sounds horrible. Yeah, that's what I was trying to say, but without saying it so mainly.

Have fun nerd. Yeah. Have fun being dedicated. Good luck eating your almonds. But you seem like you'll love. Almonds and individual grains of rice and yeah, blueberries to just perfect it. Do you want to do a game? Yeah, I'll do FMK.

I got a good one I like. So is this another one you want me to explain? I can't let you explain any of them. I thought I was FMK. No, go on, Joey. We switched back a couple weeks ago. Did we? Yeah.

I haven't recorded for like four weeks. It has been a minute, I feel like, and we're off next week, which would be nice. It'll be nice to just be with our families and not to record. But I think in this month we're recording like two episodes, two out of five weeks together or something. and then we'll, but we're going to hit the round running in 2026. I've literally got like two and a half months scheduled already next month,

so we're locked and loaded, so we got to keep this same rolling. FMK, Andy, specifically for you, we have this game that we created solely for you. We've never played this before, completely original game, so everyone listen up how we play it. So basically, I'm going to give you three topics, and you get to decide which one you want to fuck, which one you want to marry, which one you want to kill. So you're essentially ranking all three of them between one, two, and three. most people would consider marrying one, fucking two, and killing three.

So FMK, your three handpicked topics. Flying. Lifting. Dancing. I should have had reading in there, but I can't do that. Oh, was there one that? No, I'm going to take lifting out and put in reading.

Flying reading dancing. I think that's going to be harder for you because I don't think you care about lifting as much as you care about those three. Actually, I would probably argue with you. I would have said that, I would have said that lifting was my top one. Okay, well, I guess now it's easier.

But that's okay. It's more fun if the other three are equal-ish. Yeah, yeah. Take the obvious one out then. Yeah, exactly. Lying, reading, dancing. I think I know my answer, and I'm going to stick with it. I'm going to stick to my guns.

I'm going to say, I'm going to say kill dancing. And I only say it because over the last year, I don't think I've danced at all. maybe one time and turns out I'm okay you know it turns out I'm finding other things to channel myself into lifting being one of them and for that reason I'm gonna say kill dancing I'm going to marry reading because that's for me I grew up around books my parents on a private book business and growing up in that way that's just a very comforting it's a very homey it's just a very peaceful thought is reading

and that that is a topic and as an environment for me. I'm in a merry reading and then fuck flying. Hell yeah. There you go. Because that's legit. It's so fun. It's so cool. I've done some crazy things and there's

nothing else like it. Been some crazy places. Yep, exactly. Exactly. So that's my answer. Do you just kind of do Minnesota? Do you guys just fly around Minnesota or you When you're doing stuff for your job, you're going like all over the country. This man has been everywhere. Actually, you know what?

Quick, two-part, Mount Rushmore. First part, Matt Rushmore of places that you've had layovers. Is this layovers not working? Or is this places I've been working for the military? Because those are two different things in my mind. Let's combine both and just tell me your top four of all of those. Okay. top four I think

I got to go to Tully Air Base which is 800 miles north of the Arctic Circle I got to go there two January ago that was freaking awesome to be up there the sun doesn't even come up it was so cool I don't even know where the fuck that is other than like way way north like that's so

it's I don't even know how do you I think it's one of the most northern places on earth that people live year round is that America or Canada it's I think it's technically Canada It's an American installation out there, or it's a multinational installation, I guess, is what it would be. So that's definitely got to be one of them. I think another one is Yuma, Arizona.

We go out to the test center out there. I've been there a couple of times. We just do some really cool stuff as far as the flying that we're doing. And that's, like, just from a cool factor, that's a really, really fun place to go. It's really hot, but the flying that we do is pretty awesome. So that's number two for me. I think number three would be Crete. We went to, we had a week in Suda Bay in Crete.

That was pretty sweet. Tons of cool architecture stuff from, you know, I found a church that was founded in like 800 AD or something. And it's like we don't have anything like that in America here. So that was just really, really cool. Where is Crete? Greece, in the middle of the Mediterranean. Yeah. So that'll be number three.

Number four, why not, Key West? Might as well be. Where the drinks flow like wine. That's right. Then the actual Mount Rushmore, Mount Rushmore of top celebrity mustaches. Top celebrity mustaches. That is a really good one.

Oh, wow, I feel put on the spot now. Okay. I'm really put on the spot. I was not expecting that. I always make this game so hard. Yeah, that I'm hard pressed just to think of one that I really love, if I'm being honest. If it's just the mustache, well, okay, let's see. Well, like the celebrity attached to it kind of matters.

Okay, okay, sure. The useless meat attached to the mustache kind of matters, you know, it's all about the mustache. It's all about the mustache. I used to have a mustache and I'll tell you right now my mustache right now curls This meat might need to be the episode title

Curls up to my eyebrows That's how high up I can get this thing And I had that Before I grew the beard Wow I used to be able to curl this three times So I'm a little Adverse

Inverse Adverse Into the mustache culture From back in the day It's not air What the fuck is yeah like it's inverse inverse reverse reverse reverse reverse non of those are accurate those are all direction

i think i've got two for sure jason sedakis as ted lasso hell yeah certainly won that's a good one yeah um shout out shout out to him it's a great show when has him for halloween this year that was a ton of fun that was going to come up later so i'm glad you brought it up okay good deal jason Siddakis or Halloween? You as Jason Sadekis at Halloween. Oh, understood. Okay, deal.

Another one is Henry Cavill. That man can wear a mustache. He absolutely can. He's allowed. Yeah. Anybody's allowed, but he just, he wears the crap out of it. He's got a great mustache when he puts his mustache. Well, everybody's allowed, but some people are allowed.

You know what I mean? Like, yeah. Like, thank you for doing it. that. What about the Super Troopers cast? As a cast collective, they have a great mustache. I think that's one of the defining

traits, isn't it? I mean, just the whole vibe is pretty spectacular. It's been so long since I saw that. Really? Oh man, it comes up like once a day in my life. Really? I suppose I should have seen it more being in Minnesota, which is basically

where it takes place. Yeah. Well, also remember, I'm 20 years older than you, so super jibber. That is true. It was more formative. He's not that old. You either acknowledge that you are 20 or you called Joey 50, so which one is it your fuck? I'll take both.

I'll take both as well, yeah. I think another one for me, another one for me would probably be... Are you Googling celebrity mustaches over there? I'm thinking of movies now you've got me on a movie kick I went through Henry Cavill and Ted Lassow so I'm going through the same thing I'm thinking about

Go ahead Are you going to predict what I'm going to say Yeah I'm trying I'm going to say Ron Swanson from the From Parks and Rec Nope wasn't the scene to go in there Okay that's where I was going next And then number four

I'm just trying to think of stuff I've seen recently Pedro Pascal can wear a mustache Okay Yeah I'll stick with that I think that's a good one No Bert Reynolds or Tom Selleck I guess you are too young to know who those are

I mean I'm familiar with the names But I'm young I was thinking Daniel DeLewis That's a good one too From one of my favorite movies Of course there will be blood That's a good one too I'm an oil man

And then he was also All cultured And he was also And he was also, uh, had that killer and curly mustache in gangs of New York. Yep. Oh. There's so much good ones out there. I, I actually rewatched gangs of New York like once a year and there will be blood

probably twice a year. Liam Neeson was also in gangs of New York and people forget that. Was he really? The dad that died right in the beginning, right? Yeah, yeah. He was the leader of the dead rabbits. Two thousand and two. Yeah, I know.

Spoiler alert. Which movies, you weirdos? Not you, Tommy. Tommy, Tommy literally hasn't seen it. Tommy. Yeah, not Tommy. We could spoil any movie on this podcast and it wouldn't matter. It would not matter.

Not even a little bit. Someone dies on top gun, Tommy. Yeah. Rock Hudson was gay. Figured that out. See in Key West. Probably. Oh, man.

That's funny. That's a good episode. So I had a big thing here is saying that, you had the massonomics plate from indesota he does have a story there but it may involve a surprise for tanner and tommy so he may not want to share it i think that's been that's been done unless it's additional yeah that's been done there there there is in fact yeah and i'm not going to spoil it here i'm sorry not even hell yeah brother uh well we we tell us in that we tell us in the post show then it won't be on the episode sure and if you want to spoil it then just for joy and i i can do sweet

okay oh my god I butcher these do you have any like horror stories from Best Buy that you don't have you don't have to talk about them

I just like is there anything funny make it more like co-worker than employees you don't get don't do anything you're going to get dude I'm now seeing what Keith was talking about when he said yeah it's after I edited them this is yeah over the place

Uh-huh. I didn't want to I would have had to delete everything and copy it again and I know that would have pissed you off. So that's the only option I had was to do this. This is the blurst of times. Yeah, that was Andy and his friend's fault for submitting everything yesterday. Fucker.

That's okay. Maybe I, maybe I, I don't think I made this. Oh, I'm adding that to unpaid and underrated. I want that. I don't think I added the dock very early. It just, I looked this more. I looked at an hour ago. Wherever I can find unpaid and underrated.

It's all the way at the bottom. Like you got to keep scrolling. Go until you see last week's episode and then go up one scroll. I'm so sad right now. It's so much stuff. Yeah, thanks, Andy, for having so many friends. You're welcome, guys. I'm glad it's making good content.

A lot of good parades. A lot of people think highly of you. And you know what? It's not very often. We get too much information. A lot of the time I go over these notes and I go, yeah, there's nothing I can do with this. Let's just go in and go at it. So it's very rare that I go,

this is so much stuff. Getting a good airplane poop stories? Oh yeah. There's not much there's not much to those stories except that you pooped in an airplane and it's not like an airliner. You just have to picture, you just have to picture like the back of the airplane is wide open, right?

Because we take all kinds of cargo, we can do aeromedical stuff where they turn the back of the airplane into a hospital, tons of different things. And so the toilet is a little latrine bucket with a platform that folds down in front of it so you can either stand on it to take a leak or you can sit and put your feet on it where you have to go number two.

And there's a curtain that you wrap around it. And that's it. I have one of those in my basement. You have a Pittsburgh toilet on your airplane. I got one of my basement. I got curtains all day. It's a rubber wrap around my shirt. yeah it's the same thing

it's just uh maybe i'll tell you what i do have one good story yeah yeah let's hear it so uh and i'm gonna i'm gonna call somebody out big time on this i might not say a name but so i was flying maybe a year and a half ago yeah they'll know who i'm talking about maybe a year and a half ago we were out flying uh what we call it um we do we do tactical flying so we can do like low and slow 300 feet off the ground kind of thing which is super super fun uh like it will go right over your house people will see us

like oh my goodness that's so cool it's great we were out flying about a year and a half ago i just said hey i'm gonna get up i'm gonna run to the back which is i mean i'm gonna use the bathroom i'm gonna go and take a leak or do my business or whatever i have to do so i'm back there i'm and they know the pilots know that when we're back there like okay keep it steady don't do any crazy banking don't do anything uh yeah so i'm back there and we go into like a 45 degree bank and I'm like oh shit and I'm grabbing on to whatever I can trying to keep myself there the co-pilot at least stationary or is it just like a five gallon bucket okay so the bucket is stationary built into the side yep okay that's good that's so I I go back up to the flight

deck and I sit down I say like hey I'm back up and the co-pilot turns around and looks at me and at first he tried to pin it on the pilot in the other seat and he goes no is him like yeah sure I know who had the controls he's like okay I'm sorry but he in the middle of this had that we had a call like okay we're going to make this turn so he started making the turn and then out of out of nowhere he realized that I was still back there and goes oh shit and whipped it back the other way so I started going one way whipped back into the side of the airplane going the other way if you just stayed in the turn you would have yeah the the the overcorrection probably you know made that buckleash a

little bit for you yep but you know the the trip that we were on he did by my for the rest of the week so he he made it up to me but that's that's an example or that's that's the dangers of of uh being or taking a shit in an airplane uh thankfully i've only ever i've never had a shit on an airplane i thought i was going to have to on sunday going back i was like i'm glad i had a six hour delay because i had beer shits all day in minneapolis and i was like oh no worse on the airport and it took me like it was like four hours until i actually found a vending machine that had a peptibismo in it and i could just stop and i was like oh my god if these rollies aren't doing anything. It won't stop.

There was my shit story for everybody. I'm glad you wanted that. So are you a big audio guy? You like doing sound systems? Yeah. A home stereo system? Yeah, one of my jobs at Best Buy was in the no longer exists, but it was called the Magnolia space.

That was like premium audio. So my day job was sitting around in our studios showing off tens of thousands of dollars of audio equipment to people and selling it. And that's pretty much the best job ever outside of you know airplanes but yeah it evolved like crazy in the last decade oh yeah seriously from you know black friday open on thanksgiving day still to the curbside stuff and online pickup all that kind of thing it's been wild but oh that was a that was a great job i loved that and it got me into high-end audio equipment and premium sound and everything like that it's it's tons

of fun it's so cool too like the technologies out there that so many people don't know exist, it's awesome. So, shameless plug, go into your local Best Buy and see if they have a studio to listen to really cool speakers. Nice. Sorry, yeah, this is the stuff that was uploaded recently is so much. I literally, so we had already agreed to be on at 640.

I found these at like 630. I randomly was looking in the note and I was like, why, where did all these come from? because I think I had scheduled someone else I was looking I was in the thing and I knew the last I had looked you had like 18 submissions and then it was like 23 or something

and I was like fuck I have to get these in there Hey so my birthday was this weekend Yeah And happy birthday Yeah And I only asked for I only asked my wife for one thing A full Scottish breakfast

Oh yes So can you guess what was in it Okay eggs some kind of sausage you had to have the tomatoes halved we couldn't get the tomatoes

they weren't in season no oh no I tried but she said no it was out of season but I did have square sausage yes that's good okay

did you have mushrooms no I hate mushrooms with a fucking passion but they are part of the breakfast normally they are they are I always think of oatmeal as being a very Scottish thing that's always something I enjoy

with that kind of breakfast and then like thick bread with butter just okay so so yes I had most of those I had a sourdough bread which was fried with butter

I had haggis you had haggis for breakfast of course I did I only have haggis for breakfast when I can I had square sausage eggs maple fried beans okay yeah

yeah and then she cut an orange I couldn't eat so it replaced the tomato that's so great that's so great what's the story with not eating an orange

like you were full or it like when you take ADHD meds vitamin C makes them some of them apparently the one I'm on doesn't but what I had heard was

I could see that yeah it stops the absorbency of your ADHD meds so you need to avoid vitamin C at a certain time in between taking them what else is

So is that just like, so orange is orange juice? What else has vitamin C in it, like generically that I can't think? No, I can't have energy drinks. I can't have. Okay. Juses. I can't have anything for the first hour. So that's why I don't, I usually don't take them now for three hours after I wake up.

That I learned. But yeah. Yes, I had haggis for breakfast. And I heard you have a haggis story. I have a haggis story. Well, you obviously know what haggis is. Of course. In Canada, it's different than Scotland.

is it really yeah we're not some of us don't we are not allowed to eat the lungs of the animals interesting so Keith for you a haggis is it's a traditionally Scottish it's not a vegetable it's a traditionally Scottish thing if you're

are you looking it up no no okay why don't I can't multitask can barely fucking look at it same call and show notes it's a traditionally Scottish dish and apparently it's Canadian too but it's a little different it's this little bird. It's a little round bird

that's got kind of a knobby head but the unique thing about it is that it's got three legs. It's got two short ones in the front and a long one in the back so it's easier to run up the hills in Scotland and the highlands and so when you cook it, it's like this thing that comes out in there like

tripod bird like that's wild. Also Andy I am sorry to tell you. Is he way wrong? He can vote. He's way wrong. Joey don't spoil it. Okay, that's the Haggis story. Okay, go ahead. The Haggis story is how many people...

It's actually like a... It's a pig's... Just let them finish it. ...stomach. It's a pig's stomach with all different guts and different things inside. It's the sheep's. That's so worse. I'd rather eat a... Or sheep's stomach.

Three-Leged bird's pecker than eat fucking sheep guts. Oh, man. I'm sorry. I ruined that. The Haggis story is how many people I've convinced that a haggis is a little three-legged bird from the islands of Scotland. That's actually really funny. So Hagus is all the the innards of a sheep

that are ground up with oatmeal and spices and cooked inside the stomach of the sheep and then sliced up and served. I mean, I guess we'd stuffing, which is in a turkey's ass. It's actually incredibly delicious. It's so good. It sounds like it'd be moist and flavorful,

but it's just... It is not. It is not. It's so dry. It's so dry. If you don't have barbecue sauce, you're fucked. You need HP sauce on it. Like, they just randomly sell. it so sell it at a baker at a you usually have to

go to the Scottish specific places for it like you wouldn't get it at your standard chicken in and lamb place um that's actually really good chicken yeah that's actually really funny wait so you didn't know the three like a chicken thing or you I did not know the three like a chicken thing

yeah I did not know I was just like what the hell is he talking about I always tell people it's this little bird that you serve you like you cook it and it's just you keep everything in there and you serve it on this round plate. It's just this little ball kind of football-looking thing when you bring it out. No, I don't like bones.

There's no bones in Hageus, my friend. Not in Hageus. In his story there was. Oh, okay. Yeah. They actually do Haggis throwing competitions. It's a strength competition in Scotland. Because when you cook it, it's like a, it's a football-sized weird chunk of meat.

So they have competitions on how can throw that so far. In British David would eat. Actually, I would be shocked if he did, to be honest with you. I don't know, David, if you're listening, let us know. But that was all I wanted. And I heard you had one that you showed up on Kilt Day. And it was the wrong day. Oh, you were a Kilt on the wrong day?

That's Chris. That's Chris shouting out there. So one of the bars that I used to frequent is a little place in Egan, Minnesota, it's a little speakeasy kind of spot, you know, cocktails, quiet, jazz music, dim lights, the whole thing. Hidden Door. Anyway, I got to know the staff there pretty well. And so they would do these themed days from time to time. And they did a skirt day or a kilt day for the whole staff. And so everybody working at the kitchen, working as the bartenders, the servers, male, female, they all wore a skirt or a kilt or something fun. And so I said, oh, great. I'll show you. up in a kilt next time i come in and they were like yeah ha ha ha whatever and then i did and that's pretty much the story there's nothing really crazy about it but definitely had a blast and took a few pictures with a few people who just thought that was really cool what kind of kilt do you have i have a couple of different ones the one that i primarily wear is a hunting steward it's red

tartan primary red tartan i want to get my mom's maiden name though my mom's from scotland which is why I have the kilt and everything. So I'd love to get one of her maiden name, which is Clan McIntyre. Okay. I have three, I think. I have a utilicailt. Oh, no.

Oh, if you can get in. What do you mean? Oh, no. I love me. I have never enjoyed how they looked. They're, okay. Especially for like city. I suppose it is a utilicilt.

Yeah, it's for city living, right? It's got pockets. It's got a belt loop. like it's when I want to wear a kilt and don't want questions. I do have my family tartan, which is the McKenzie's. That's great.

And I went with the weathered version of that. I didn't like the hunting, so I went with the weathered. And I have one from the Irish military, which is a turmeric colored. That's really cool. Yeah.

That's really cool. I'm not Irish, but gosh, that turmeric color was gorgeous. That's really cool. Are you going to bring, Are you coming to the Lyft-Harla Vizi this next summer? Unlikely.

Ah. Yeah, at the moment. And if I did, I would wear the McKenzie. I wouldn't bring the term or a colored one. Okay. Well, I've been made aware that the Friday night in Tanner's backyard is where you wear your kilt. So I'll be there. And if anybody else listening is in possession of a kilt or becomes in possession of a

kilt, show up to Tanner's backyard with your, with your kilt and your favorite Massonomics shirt to match. I know Big Scants and Big Mo will be appreciative of that. Absolutely. Keith, do you want to jump in too un-people-rated? I will. I just want to give him a chance to clear the air. So, Andy, you've heard multiple people tell stories about your shenanigans over the weekend.

Is there anything you want to set straight? Was all the stories told accurate? You have the floor on setting the record straight on your paved shenanigans. I think I said the most important thing already. I'm just very grateful for the people who are out there with me, who kept an eye on me, brought me back into the place when I was thrown out for being very extra and very dramatic.

And I'm just very grateful for those people. I don't know if I mean, did you end up, did Marissa have to stop the Uber so you could puke at the side of it? Was that a thing? I don't think we thought. Oh, that is a thing. Yep, that is factual. Nice.

That a boy. That is factual. yep that's uh yeah hey you gotta if you're gonna if you're gonna lift hard you have to live easy and we did that night we did so uh crew falls so uh crew falls and lift hard live easy now and you've done you've done the arnold too right i have not done the arnold that is that is one of my three remaining to get a jacket level hall of fame here but now that you've experienced lift hard live easy and crew falls if you had to rank them completely different things but what would you uh what do you think there on the crew experience? Yeah, the crew experience perspective, crew falls takes it. I think

it has to. I think you said it very well early on in the weekend. I think it might have even been at Pizza Ranch when I said hi to you, is you just said how much you enjoy that weekend because you get to hang out with everybody. And that's so, so true. It's just, it's a blast. To get to see people, get to hang out and chat with people you already know, get to meet new people who you obviously already have a lot in common with, just a ton of fun. And there's the lift hard of easy. so much fun, but it does not have the same, it's not the same vibe and it's not the same intimacy that Crew Falls is. And so while I love a challenge, I love to push myself and prepping to compete in powerlifting or in strong man or whatever it may be and having a blast out

there cheering everybody on, getting cheered on by everyone else at the meet in the summer is super fun. And in its own way, it is superior because of that. I don't think it, it holds, I don't think it holds a candle to crew falls and the crew experience that you have there. If I could if I could kind of say it because I've also been to both

and I think what you're leaning towards Liptard Leveezy is a celebration of all things, Masonomics. Crew Falls is our event. It's the crew event. Whereas Leptard Livisi

will attract people from everywhere. We have professional lifters. We have people that aren't crew. We have sponsors. We have all of those things that celebrate what massonomics is, which is our bigger umbrella sister, sister podcast, whatever you want to call that. Those guys. But crew falls is us. It's our thing. And there's no sponsors. There's no outside influence. There's no, you know, you're not, you're not doing a meat. You're not shackled to anything. So I think that's kind of what you're saying. And I would say I feel the same way. I, I, um, having been to both. Although I went to bed at like 10 o'clock at crew fulls.

You left, you left, you left remedy at like eight or two. Yeah, like it was fucking ridiculous. And I went back and you were, you, but it was 12 hours and you went to Blarney's town. And you, I think you, I don't think you had a break between Lose and fucking remedies, hardly. So like, I could see how I went back and like, oh, I'm going to take a three hour nap and then fucking go back out. Yeah, that's what I thought I would do. And I did not. I woke up at 1 a.m. and was like, I could make it.

No, I'm not doing that. Yeah. I think that's very well said. That's very well said. All right, Andy. Now I think we're going to get into a little unpaid or underrated. So this is another game that Joey and I came up with all by ourselves. Zero outside influence.

Essentially, we're going to give you up to eight individual six. I don't even remember. It's been so long. Four. Is it? Well, it's four each. Or is it three each? It's usually three each, but, like, my list is huge here.

Yeah, I'll probably just do three. We're going to give you a random amount of numbers, a random numbered amount of topics. Perfect. And with said topics, you have to, this, unlike least fun, most fun, I only want one answer. So unpaid or underrated. Underrated being, you know, it's pretty awesome, unpaid, meaning kind of shitty because it wants to be unpaid. So your first one from me is going to be grip strength, unpaid or.

underrated grip strength oh hmm because you're saying grip strength okay oh yeah i'm gonna go grip because i think there's a distinction between general grip strength and like gripper events yeah the training grip i guess or i still think training yeah i think training grip is underrated i think people train forearms a lot but that's not the same as training grip and i think that you can do a lot of different gripper events and train for that specific thing. And that's also not necessarily training grip. I really appreciated how at Crew Falls, the grip gauntlet in Tommy's garage, I appreciate that it had a lot of chalk.

But I also appreciate that it was a lot of different things. It wasn't all just the same thing, right? It was hanging. It was holding on to something. It was grabbing the blobs. It was the dynamometer. It was all these different things that are different aspects of grip strength. So I think training grip is underrated.

as opposed to any of the other things that are out there. Gotcha. Who'd you draw in the first round of the dynamometer? Big Mo. Of the knockout bracket. Did you knock out? I did. Nice.

It's fun. All right. Unpaid or underrated, slim fitting clothing. I think I'm going to go, I'm going to go unpaid for this. Once upon a time, it would have been the opposite. But I think now it's unpaid. I just, I'm not enjoying it as much.

I can see you be a fan of the slim-fit jeans and the skin-tight shirts. I could see you doing that. Once upon a time, absolutely. But I think Joey said it well. Like you were getting into the comfort colors and those boxier style shirts. And I absolutely agree with you. I actually didn't realize that the drop today, the black shirt was the comfort color is one. So I am going to have to go and probably order that now.

I wouldn't wait that one white. I mean, I'm not sure. they bought a bunch of them, but I wouldn't. No, there's hard to say though, too. As of like three hours ago, there was only nine shirts left. Spectacular. We'll see what we should do then. But I think that's my answer there. Unpaid. Unpaid or underrated camping.

Underrated. Yeah. Especially, this is the way I think about camping. I don't think RV. I don't think camper. I don't think any of that. I think pack everything I'm bringing with me into a bag on my back, put it in a canoe, and pal. a way into the wild blue yonder, like that's camping and I love it and not enough people do it because it truly separates you from the rest of life, the rest of society. And I think that's something we don't do enough to go out into the wilderness and to be

with yourself, to be able to reflect, to be able to pray, to spend time with God. That's me and my theological side coming out. I apologize, not trying to get religious on your podcast. Like that, to have that experience is so far removed. from anything else that you can do as a leisure time to do that and have a book with you to maybe have a really good friend with you just absolutely incredible and absolutely underrated

sounds like you and Tom would have been good camping buddies then did you meet big Tom at uh crew falls I did I actually met him when I was at the gym a couple of weeks before that gotcha so you dude you heard he literally camped out Friday night like as wild as that was I did I did hear that it's pretty pretty appreciate that all right that was pretty incredible okay my turn yeah yeah uh unpaid or underrated guinness underrated because i love it and i don't think enough people do i also say that because there's

a couple of friends who i've introduced it to or i've introduced to guinness i should say like shut out wampablo he did not want to try it he tried it now he loves the stuff because he had no Right? He was ignorant. So I think for that reason, it's underrated. People always look at it. Oh, it's a dark beer. Oh, it's so heavy. It's hard to drink. That is not true. Go drink again. You will be surprised. Oh, I've said it before. It sits on top of water. It's dark. Yeah. But it's the lightest beer you can drink. Apparently, it's got three grams of protein per pint. It does. Yep. Yep. Yeah, that's wild. I didn't know that either. 10 pines is a whole 30 grams of protein. It's great macros. Yeah. Great macros. won't kill your gains at all. Unpaid or underrated gym accessories like straps, sleeves, and wraps.

I think I'm going to say I'm going to say underrated. I think it's noble to want to say that I'm going to lift this weight without those things and I think it's impressive to do so but when we talk about your total, when we talk about

the amount of weight that you move, you're doing it regardless. And so to have the assistance of straps and a belt and whatever it may be, I think it's underrated. And that's, you know, I don't always train my deadlift doing a mixed grip. Like I'll do deadlift with straps. I'll do rack pulls with straps, right? It allows you the flexibility to grow in a different way than you otherwise would.

So not necessarily just for the sake of having equipment, but for using it properly. I'm going to say underrated. I agree. I don't think your grip should hold back your deadlift. That would be stupid. Correct. To think that your back is the same strength as your hands. Yeah.

Is a stupid training aspect. And if you can do both, if you can deadlift with straps and without, you're going to lose a few pounds. Let's say 20 to 50 pounds based on who you are. But knowing you can do that with straps means your back and legs are strong, right? Yeah. Unpaid or underrated. Pooping outside.

You said you like camping. I have done the camping you're talking about. And it was literally a tree stump with a toilet seat over the ground. Yeah. The toilet seat was because we were in crowning. land where the government owns the land and it was an island people go to to camp and somebody nailed a toilet seat over this hole. Yeah.

So when you say you like camping, how's that feel? You know, it's, it is what it is. I think that's, that's one of the things, though. So to go back on my soapbox about camping, if you're going to do it, go and do it, do it to the fullest. You know, why hold anything back? there's no reason to to not experience it properly

and so for all of the all of the glampers out there I'm sorry that I'm raining on your parade but you do it and then you're done doing it you know yeah yeah no I think if I camp I'm going in a tent I'm not going in

yeah and I have done both I've done all three and I think my preferred is a tent right absolutely as much as I love the camper. It's comfortable. My kids are more comfortable. Everything's a little nicer. But like, it's not, it's not the same. Yeah, exactly. So we'll say, I think that's underrated is what we got to there. But I'm going to stand by it. I don't think it's all that bad. And if you do, then you probably

just, maybe you had one lousy experience with a wasp and your bum. And if that's the case, I'm really sorry. But it's not always like that. I promise. Last one, unpaid or underrated. Oh, wee. Ha ha ha. Oh, man. That is... And I hope Zoom doesn't eliminate that. That's pretty excellent.

That's got to be Tyler and Riley for sure. This is going to be a hot take. I think it's underrated. Like that song, that... This may not make sense to anybody, but do you know you think of a period in life and there's just a piece of music

that you associate with it like that's one of that song is one of those for me is that that Ui is just I associate it with a great period of life with some great friends and for that reason

I have to say it's underrated I know a lot of people will disagree with me and say no the song is super annoying and it's really frustrating and I hate hearing it Joey you said it best fuck them

yeah that's all you That song is incredible. It's about a street in South Africa where poverty is rampant. And she was singing a song to bring attention to that street. And it became a viral sensation. And then you learn about it. And then suddenly I was like, wait a minute, I actually like this song separately from the viral sensation. Yeah.

And my daughter loves it. My son obviously couldn't care less. But like my daughter's totally into it. So you passed unpaid and underrated. Yes. I always knew I could do it. Yeah, I know you could too. This is about the time that we move to see if you have any questions for us, but Keith has gone to a beach somewhere.

So if you have one for me specifically, we'll start there. I sure do. I'm going to keep the unpaid or underrated train going here. We're going to kind of work our way backwards. Unpaid or underrated, the Keith skeleton. I've never seen it. That appeared at the Lyftard-Lavizi this summer. That was me.

As I was, I'm going to move right along from that. Yeah, that skeleton is the me skeleton. That's why it has a long red beard. I would say it is underrated. It is amazing that my friends bring me to events that I can't make it to. Yeah, that's good. That's good. To keep that going, Big Keith. You, yo.

Unpaid or underrated. Keith heads. I got one here. Very, very underrated. Actually, no, it's got to be underrated. Like, every now and then, I feel self-conscious about it to an extent of, like, I just don't want people to think that I'm out here promoting myself and, like, putting myself on a pedestal.

It's like my friends doing it as a bit, but also to, like, show that they love and support me, which is awesome. As you guys see, Big Jakey. um yeah so if anyone hasn't seen that in discord i'll give it a little quick story essentially so uh jakey has some of the stickers and i think he like so if essentially like just the floating keith head and he must have a sticker or a magnet or something of it and it like freaks out his daughter like uh so when he was at tommy somehow he acquired you know there was a bunch of keith coosies he he acquired one and as a and her stocking stuffer they did christmas tonight he

literally had a keith head coozy and her stocking stuffer and he sent me a picture of her holding up flipping off the camera and then I convinced him to post it in you and you or actually well this discord in general and it got a hit it was I laughed so hard when I saw it so that was so good has like surpassed me a big Ryan shout out to Ryan he did the angry Keith head um and then put consume on my cheeks uh with the umlot under and I just thought that was funny a shit took me a second even I was like what oh I was like what's con summy mean or something like that and I was like oh consume that's a word I get but I was but So just like, I don't know, it's almost like, at some point people are going to just stop making them.

But for now, like, every meetup, there's some new fucking paraphernalia, which is wild to me. And, like, I don't think any, like, my friends see him hanging at the house. Like, my friends see, like, the thing on the, you know, the couple things that I have with my face on it and the fucking singlet. And I don't think they get it. Like, and it's just, it's just too hard to explain. But my kids know you. Yeah. Like, I can literally be like, who?

Who's this? And they'll go, Keith. And they've met you, but, like, they might not remember meeting you. But, like, ultimately, when they see you face to face, they're going to go, huh? Like, they're going to draw that parallel. So, like, that means something, I think. I do actually, I have a really funny story.

I meant to say this on last week's episode. I just never came out. But so at one point, Lou, I think it was right after I got my Hall of Fame jacket. Lou wanted to get a, he, I think he took a picture of me in it. it was either went to the Hall of Ham jacket or I was wearing his glasses I think it was the Hall of Fame jacket and he said do the face and I think I was like four beers deep at this point so I thought he wanted like the fuck me eyes face so I just gave him like a very seductive like I'm you know and he was like no the face and then I was like like look like looking up kind of thing but I was just I thought it was just really funny like I literally like was looking at him all provocatively and shit and he like he like he did like he like twisted his head and was like what fuck is this doucheback doing and then I was like no the face The Keith face and it was just really funny because I was like

what the fuck to do the face mean like oh no I don't know I was a Saturday like that's what I was doing I thought that was that's awesome

I wanted to share last week and it didn't come out but yeah ultimately extremely underrated because it just makes me feel loved I think it brings joy

to a lot of people too I think it does all right I like it this is for both of you unpaid or underrated the Minneapolis airport I've been there a lot

but I just scrambled so if you have an answer or I can go. Unpaid And like Okay If I had to be there for a known One to two hour layover Nope

That would have been fine Having to be there for an unplanned 6 to 8 hour layover No you run out of shit to do My friend And, like, I think they have, no, was it that one, or was it Pearson? Do they have showers at the MSP airport? I wish I needed them.

I don't know. I'm sure if you go into the, if you have the fucking royalty or whatever the thing. I think I was just exploring, but, like, it's a very big airport. There's tons of restaurants and stuff to do, but, like, you know that you're, you got to get, on your plane for an hour and then in your car you can't sit there

and drink all day you can't nap because you're going to miss your flight and you're just stuck there that sucked so I would say that my personal feelings unpaid I'm sure Big Sam would agree with me

because he was stuck there for like 48 hours but ultimately I think if it was a planned one to two hour layover I would argue differently, but no, because it was so long, definitely unpaid. I mean, all airports suck in every capacity of them.

My most recent trip, I guess, I don't know. I, when I travel, like, I have a tablet that's fully charged with a shit ton of pre-downloaded stuff, not just stuff I need Wi-Fi for. So, like, I can, I just fucking consume media for however many hours. And I just put my noise canceling headphones on and a tablet. And I'm just, it's the same as sitting on my TV on my couch watching TV. So I can kind of ignore everybody. just got to crank the noise canceling headphones to black masks which isn't

great for eight hours uh just the people and people are so fuck like motherfuckers doing speakerphone conversations right next to you just fucking blare like that's the most i just wish there was a way to screaming at the staff god they're screaming at the staff over shit like i requested a wheelchair oh it's on its way can you just give us a minute? No, I, and like, I'm like, okay, at first I want to be like, I understand. You need a wheelchair. Thank you. Like, we will do our best. But get out of the way. Like, you're, you are stopping the plane from deborting so we can't get on. Like, it was, it was not a great experience at MSP. You know what airport I do like, though. I like, uh, the Sioux

Falls Airport is pretty dope. I've gotten the best breakfast, like three or four. four year, well, it's three crew falls now, but like it was three crew falls plus it lived hard to live easy. So I think I've eaten like at the same little, it's like cinnabund, but then they actually it's like a centibund plus things they have all their shit. And it's like full breath blown bacon eggs like, I mean, it's a full breakfast. And it's wasn't, you know, it was like 20 bucks for, you know, cheaper than what you're going to get at any other airport.

So Sue Falls. And if you have the time to get breakfast there, that air, I will say Sue Falls airport 100% underrated. Minneapolis unpaid just because it's, I always get stuck there, it seems like. And also, we didn't get to see some lady fall on her face in the train car at MSP like the boys did. Oh, yeah. That might change my opinion if I got to watch that. I do hate when I'm at the same gate for like four hours because my flight just keeps getting delayed. And then like 10 minutes before the flight, they change gates.

I'm like, oh, cool. So now I have to fucking run like, you know, a thousand yards. Fuck, how do you fly, does military use the same? Do you guys use, you have your own bases with like airports and shit, right? Or do you land at commercial airports? Sort of. We do land at a lot of commercial airports, but we don't go through the terminal. We'll go through like an FBO, like a private, like if you fly private, you would go through there and they coordinate all your fuel and they get all your bags and everything. Now we don't get the full service, right? We carry our own shit. Yeah, you're literally shit in a bucket. I don't think there's much full service about your job. Yeah. Now, we fuel our own airplane and all that kind of stuff, but we typically will go through those and we'll just get Uber's or rent a vehicle from wherever we are there as opposed to going through the terminal, which is kind of nice. So you're, are you, are you, I wouldn't say you're like, are, so you are, you personally are responsible for airing up the air, for fueling the airplane? I can be, yeah. We'll often have, like, crew chiefs with us to do maintenance if it comes up and they'll do a lot of that stuff too.

but yeah I did work in maintenance before I was a flight engineer so I'm more than capable at least I would like to think so fill her up Andy is that what the number one chair says it says filler up Andy something like that how many gallons of jet well is it I guess it's just fuel right because there's different different airplanes I'm assuming take different grades but like the one you you basically dry a big or you're in a big ass cargo plane right so how many what's the capacity of your tanks total uh we So I think about it in terms of pounds of fuel And there's a conversion rate

But we can take Something like 60,000 pounds of fuel If we're fully loaded Well, what's like, well, because isn't a isn't a gallon two and a half Or four pounds? It's like 6.8 gallons Is a pound

Or no, the other way around 6.8 pounds is a gallon Okay, so something like that is the conversion rate Divided by six almost then as far as gallon Yeah, yep It's still a lot of fuel that is so much yeah that what does uh

does does this airplane what engine jet engine fuel does that uh what does that like go does uh when that gets when you guys have to buy that because you have to buy that at like each individual like when you're at a commercial airplane like the government has to pay that bill i'm curious does that go for like 30 dollars a gallon or is it cheaper

like like a like a pound if you will like I'm just curious that's something I've really thought about like logistics of how much because they're fucking charging everyone like $600 for a goddamn airplane ride one way or $300 for one of the like how much is the actual fuel? I couldn't give you a number if I'm being honest off the top of my head and I know it does fluctuate depending on where you are and availability and all that same as gas prices but I can tell you it's expensive. I can imagine. It's expensive. So what's your next question for next question? We'll keep going. I am moving on from unpaid and underrated into Mount Rushmore.

So I have two Mount Rushmore topics. The first one is Mount Rushmore of Massonomics merch items or Massonomics released items. Is this for both of us? Yes. Okay. Or you can, I'll tell you what, do two and two. You each get two. How's that?

We'll save our time a little bit. I think the bench heavy shirt for me has to go on, or the, because it could be merch, could be banners and flags and stuff too. But as far as a shirt, like, that is my, I wish that was a comfort color now. but like all time like to me like that logo like the Bushlight logo is like top tier for me. That's a good

one. Yeah. The new shorts. Yeah, good call. Yeah. I'm going to say those are the best thing they ever did. They cut they look like champ shorts but they're higher quality and a little shorter which is awesome. Yeah.

The logo hasn't fucking peeled off after 100 washes like the other one. Yep. I'll put that up there. Um, and, you know, the raw power goes hard. That one does. I've got the raw power on, I think, three separate shirts. And I'll take it on all of them, all of them. And none of them fit me anymore, but actually it might now that I lost all this weight.

But yeah, that one goes hard. I think, uh, I'm maybe cheating a little bit of this, but I'm going to say my supporting membership and, uh, you know, the friends I made along the way. Gay. That's a good answer. You can't say that. And it's not key. Not in Key West here. I was,

I was trying to think of something. I don't know. It was two beers going to my head. Drink spotter. That's a good one. Drink spotter is good. Yeah, the magnetic.

The drink spotter light is pretty clutch. No, I'll take the, the OG drink spotter. It's not. Really? It is, though. Yeah, like it was the, it was the groundbreaking.

you're right trend center like it set the the concept of what they were going to do for the next few years and it's

everybody looked and went this is stupid we don't need it and then they tried it and went this is incredible right

so like I think I've been around now for six years five let's say five years yeah COVID-ish

everyone kind of trickled in Yeah, I'll push it up the five years and say, like, they did a lot of apparel, they did a lot of stickers, they did a lot of stuff, but like, the drink spotter, I think, really put Massonomics on the map of, this is stupid, but in a way that we all need it. And that's what Massonomics really is to the weightlifting world. It's this stupid, silly, do we need this? know, do we want this? Yes. So I would say the drink spotter is probably my George Washington of seeing from an outsider

perspective what Masonomics is. One of the first things I do pretty much anytime I go to my Strongman gym is like find one of the two drink spotters. I think Chris has donated to the gym and I like put my drink in it and like move it to wherever I want because it's the kinetic one. So I can like at the Strongman show this weekend, they were they were both ended up kind of perfectly being lined up right where I had set up camp and I put my phone in one and my water in the other one and I just took them both and I was like look these are mine all day

yep nice yeah because that's how important the drink spotter is then the magnetic one comes out and then the chill comes out and then and then like it's yeah yeah I think that that that's that's their niche is the do we need it no do we want it yes yeah 100% I like it I think what they're working on might be something we do need to we'll find out definitely definitely all right I've one more Mount Rushmore for you you can have two each this is the Mount Rushmore of exercises that you get to pick to have the most fun while you train not talking about getting strong we're not talking about anything other than having fun be a silly goose while you train grip grip training

with the boys for sure and then generically just like strong man Saturdays like that's uh you know that's not like an individual lift but i don't know how to like that's the only time i don't have like i don't have like fun and hang out by myself like i'm in like it's like i'm not smiling i'm working out by myself so the only time i really work out with friends or like when friends are over here like every couple months but then it's like we're still not really working in together and stuff but the grip stuff we're fucking around like when we pull out the blobs and the stalemack gripper like that's fun and then find in a community and going to do strongman saturday is like been the one of the highlights in my last couple years and it's been the most fun

and it's just literally just it's just locker room talk and just dick jokes all day it's great we are we are literally in key west the whole time we're there jesus i am not the chris takes it over the top uh denny stones so i my diny replicas do they actually help me get strong no like i i don't think that there's a aspect of those that actual training worth other than training that one particular lift but it's so fun it's it's like a jefferson deadlift with two wrought iron rings so i i would put that up there and probably just my rock just rock rock up two shoulder rock down rock carry rock down it to me those things aren't about getting strong, they're about seeing how strong I already am based on the other

stuff I already did. So I would put those, those are the most fun lifts I do that don't actually train me, but they are an aspect of how strong I am. That's a good answer. I like both of those. Both of those answers are good. Okay. That's everything I had for you guys. Yeah, no, appreciate you guys for having me on. appreciate all the crew shout out to all the crew members those we got to see at crew falls the lift hard live easy the ones we the friends we made along the way big crew mom big gen and antony my crew brother apparently now shout out to you guys shout out big kevin for

getting me into this whole thing and that's that's actually a very genuine if i can take a split second to say like i know i gave a whole spiel about massanomics in general earlier but two years ago when I signed up for this supporting membership did I think any of this would happen did I expect to be doing any of this or to have made these friends and have

these people around me supporting me absolutely not but has it been some of the most wholesome and some of the most enjoyable times over the last two years yes it has to have been able to share it with my cousin Kevin obviously huge and very impactful

but to have been able to share it with all of you guys I know we say it a lot but it really is about the friends we make along the way this has truly been an incredible two years of one thing after another and lots and lots of heavy circles so thank you guys and silly gooseery lots of silly gooseery all right guys shot here and there I'll hit you with a fillets and we'll close us out

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at all those locations Big Joey where you're going to be at Joey underscore Melisco Mli E CZKO that's it on Instagram

Big Andy where you at one last time people can find you at SBD Andy on Instagram and Big Andy in the Discord

awesome if you move to bodybuilding are you going to change the SBD how long how long till your IBBF

don't change your Andy don't change your handle because anything anything your tag that goes away don't do that I don't

I think Keith is right I'll have to I'll have to keep it for the sake of the tags and everything but I would be open to it if somebody had a great idea

well what you got to do you're a bodybuilder it's got to be IBBF yeah I mean I mean

you make a pro card which apparently are handed out like candy to everybody these days yeah I don't know unpaid and underrated

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I did a strong man show post show yay come me strong man post show love it all degrees yeah didn't I didn't do the sled pull. Didn't do the sled pull.

Nope, because I almost hurt myself when I did it in training and I'm not stupid. So anybody, oh, actually there's like six people I can go fuck themselves

to get me shit for that and I sincerely mean that and say that from the heart. All of you can suck my big fat cock. Jesus, dude. No, it is really annoying. Like,

the people give me so much shit. It's kind of annoying. Like most people aren't being funny. They're just being dicks and it gets old. But no, I had a couple people in person that were being dicks about

is that it was more. Oh. Okay, yeah. Like, I was going to say, like, you give it as much sometimes. Sometimes. Hong Kong.