Unpaid And Underrated - 139 : Always Time For A Cat Break (ft. Big Ryan)
Episode Date: January 6, 2026This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Ryan. They recap the results for the Merry Crüstmas draft and they dive right into some great topics like boxing day, competing in strongman, fantasy football..., lifting with your kids, and leg press maxes. Links Ü&Ü Hoodie (https://www.sellmytees.com/festrengthlab/store/product/u-u) Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @beerbourbonand_barbells (https://www.instagram.com/beer_bourbon_and_barbells/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Ryan E.
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the photo you took there where you're like oh i'm sending out crew stickers did you like superimpose
those candles in because those look fake as shit they are fake candles all right it's like uh
yeah it's it's with cat i'm not having fucking cats and candles in the house that would be a
fucking fire hazard i got the phone of my cats is literally her fur could reach the other fucking room
but the whole candle looks like it was a i that's funny no i just i was trying to just make it
look like a dick and see if anyone commented on the the the the the
the dick envelope.
The dick float.
Yeah, the dick filope, yep.
It's a good pre-show content there.
Og-cock!
And welcome back to episode 68 of the unpaid and underrated podcast.
A podcast by crew for crew.
I'm one of your host, Big Keith, joined as always here by Big Joey.
As always.
As always.
And we have a special guest this week, Big Ryan,
I don't, I'm going to try the, E-Step, E-step, E-S-T-P?
You got it, E-S-T-E-T-E-T-E-T-E-P. All right, good deal.
So similar, so, like, do you have a cousin named Dubstep or anything like that?
I do not.
That was pretty bad.
That was a bad, eh.
On paper, it's literally, it's, it's E, T-E-P.
Cut that.
E-S-T-E-T-E-P.
So, Dub-Step, E-S-E-T-E-T-L-L-T-L-L-T-L-L-E-L-E-E-E.
Sadly, about 15 years ago, I heard that a lot.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, my humor is from 50, you know, my, my humor is honestly from 30 years ago, but it's still close enough.
All right.
Are you drinking anything over there, Big Ryan?
I am.
I am drinking liquid death, killer cola.
Nice.
Oh, the cola one.
How's that?
The, is it good?
Not bad.
Not bad at all.
Because I didn't like the, the root beer I felt was too sweet.
Like, the fruity pebble one was just disgusting.
The plain water, as we talked up multiple times, is like, clutch, but I don't know.
The cola one, I haven't.
seen the cold. I might try that if I see it for a one-off cam, but I'm not buying a fucking six-pack.
I like the root beer better, but if you thought the root beer was sweet, the cola will kill
you. Okay, yeah, so that is a big pass on that. I'm just got a little cherry bubbly this
week, nothing special. Pretty good, though. I got that keats. Shocking. I'm, we're wearing
some stuff tonight. I got the old, the new Massonomics logo shirt. I'm so excited.
to get this.
Mine's on the way.
I know the joke is it's all the same blank,
but I mean,
this one does feel different.
It's a little thinner,
the next little tighter,
which I'm happy with.
It's,
but I mean,
and actually to that point,
Hogan did tell me
that like this comfort color shirt
does have like three different serial code kind of.
You have to have,
we have to have Big Hogan on to explain all that
because he said he's had to like experiment
with which comfort color he likes the best,
but I'm also sure that limited color availability
in certain ones.
So I don't know,
but I don't know if we can believe Big Tanner
when he says,
it's all the same blank because Hogan contradicted
that. See, I don't, I don't think
we should
smash the illusion.
I think we should, we should keep
this canon illusion going on.
They're all the same blank.
Yeah. I mean, he's, he's adamantly, like,
it really is the same blank. Like, in person,
he's, like, sworn testimonially,
but it's all good.
Uh, big Ryan, which, which one you got on tonight, bud?
At the, uh, live shit.
One of my favorites.
Yes.
I have a wrestling shirt on
Oh wow, that's aggressive
What is that like a head with like shoulder pads or something like
It's the fiend
When he died they did a series of shirts
That they planned on releasing for him
And all the money went to his family
So I bought like six
That's actually really dope
So big Christmas just wrapped up
This is this is
Yeah this would be our post Christmas
Post
Post New Year's show I guess
So, yeah, while you're listening to this, welcome to 2026, because this will be coming out in 2026.
Yep, you would have heard our recap episode last week.
Yes.
Two weeks ago, because last week will be big.
No, Big Andy is when we did it.
We did the recap before Big Andy.
Yeah, last week when they hear this, last week will be Big Andy, though.
Isn't that what I said?
Big, no, he said last week was Christmas.
No, I said last week was our recap.
Yeah.
yeah the recap of what the
so when they hear this you're going to hear our
2025 recap you're right I was wrong I was thinking
the Christmas roundtable thing hey man at least you're pretty
I am handsome some days
when I put enough
put enough AI filters on my face I'm a handsome guy still
I uh yeah good call
how was your Christmas it was good
I'm in the middle of my halfway through my vacation right now I think
just about so I'm still at that point where it's like
Like, maybe I should do something, but I don't want to do anything.
So it's also like, I have like two or three house projects that I wanted to do,
and I might not do any of them.
I don't really care.
But I did get a fuck ton of crew stickers mailed out today.
So that was the more important project of the week, I guess.
So I got 12 of those going to the mailbox in the morning.
And Christmas was fun, overwhelming.
Like, we had three Christmases in like a matter of a week.
And then it was just like literally the day after we did the last Christmas,
wife and I like well she basically wanted the house back so like there's no sign of Christmas
out there anymore trees gone every decoration good for you stuff good for you I was like man I wouldn't
I wouldn't mind looking at my tree for another couple days but I guess now see I'm fine with that
I'm with step and Morgan's with you she's like I don't want to take them down there pretty and I'm
like get rid of that shit but yeah so I do all the decorating on the outside of her house
and the inside of my wife that stuff will stay up for another week or so inside and it's
gonna I started working yesterday on taking my stuff outside
completely different.
How was your Christmas, Ryan?
Oh, not bad.
I got some new underwear,
so I'm good to go for another year.
Yeah, genuinely, once you become a certain age,
my list was, I need pants for work,
I need socks, and I'm almost out of my face wash,
and, like, I can't think of literally anything else you would get me.
I won't buy for myself.
And I think you get to that age, eh?
You got kids?
I do, yes.
There it is.
and that's the that's the big turner when I'm just like spend $20 on me and the other 80 on them
like every time yeah um if there's something I want to go buy it yeah uh my Christmas I will get
into a little more when we get into that other problem there but yeah same thing it was like
the 21st was my wife's birthday so we went to her parents and we did Christmas plus her birthday
then we have our Christmas Eve party with our friends then we have our Christmas Day party with my
family um but again uh first time in 13 years i had boxing day off nice and then i had the next
two days off and so for anyone for anyone not familiar that is the day after christmas that is
yeah it's the 26 i know what that is but i think a lot of people do not know what that is
yeah uh so it's so up in canada boxing day is what it was black friday before black
friday so like we would have christmas and then the next day we'd have retail
cuts and it would be like chaos we did that before you guys did and then black friday started
down there so then we picked up black friday so boxing day fell off up here because most of
the companies are on both sides of the border obviously so they want to boost their quarterly
earnings at the same time uh yeah so for the first time in 13 years i was home for boxing day
and uh can just won't won't give it back that was awesome yeah it was awesome
I had four days off in a row during the holidays.
Never, not for 13 years.
It's a great feeling.
It sucks, I mean, it sucks using vacation.
I mean, some of those days, I'm sure you got paid off,
but like being able to take vacation during the holidays, it's just.
Yeah, up here, Christmas Day and Boxing Day are paid holidays.
Nice.
And then it was Saturday, Sunday, which I just have off anyway.
And we did a half day on Christmas Eve, which, again, I've never been able to do.
It's always been, no, you open to close, so you do eight to five because you're the manager.
You have to work.
Like, it's been, it was nice.
Until Saturday hit.
Let's talk about that real quick.
I've been complaining a lot about losing weight.
I started a new job.
I don't know how much we got into this on Andy's episode because it was 100 weeks ago that we recorded it.
My step count went from 8,000 average to 14,000 average.
just by switching jobs so I lost 10 pounds okay that's normal right plus I'm also
lifting at work I'm like I'm I'm exercising at work but when you go from standing
to only lifting four days a week to constantly moving lifting and then lifting
three days a week I lost 10 pounds wasn't too thrilled about it but it is what it is
well on Saturday I decided that I was going to
eat some deviled eggs from Christmas.
Yeah.
When were they made?
I opened them.
Christmas Eve.
I opened them, smelled them, and went,
I have to tell this story because it's so stupid.
Yeah.
I said, these are probably fine.
And my wife went, yeah, probably.
And I went, if I die, I die.
So that was around 9 in the morning.
7 p.m.
I will tell you,
I was trying to get the kids to bed
so that I could give the misses a C&T.
That was my goal for Saturday night.
At 7 p.m., I said,
I'm not okay.
And I laid down.
And then I continued
to expel everything from every hole in every body
for the next six hours.
Yeah, it was pretty bad.
I was up and down until about 1.30 in the morning
when I finally got to go to sleep.
Can I tell you,
I went to the gym on Friday.
I weighed in at 155.
I woke up Sunday morning and the first thing I said,
I woke up, opened my eyes, got out of bed and said,
I need to go weigh myself.
143.
You had to be so dehydrated though.
But if you weighed yourself today,
you're back in the 150 mid-
today I was back to 150.
I went in right before we recorded.
I'm back to 152.
But like,
oh my God.
So like when you were done being sick,
Did you not pound a bunch of electrolytes?
Oh, I woke up in the mortar.
I didn't have any electrolytes, but I added salt to my water, salt to my eggs.
Like, I went and got a smoothie.
I ate as much meat and carbs as I could because I was like, no, no, no.
Like, I don't mind being 155.
That's okay.
143 is a problem.
That's beyond victim.
Yeah, that's unhealthy weight.
So that was my Christmas.
I was okay by Sunday morning, is.
I was able to keep food down and stuff like that.
But damn, dude, don't trust the deviled eggs.
That sounds unpleasant.
I did, when I just mentioned the electrolytes,
it made me think of my,
so the weekend before Christmas was the Strongman gym.
Well, it's a multi-purpose gym,
but it's like a, it's not a, like the gym that I go to,
Chris Mark and I go to,
they did their Christmas party out of a bar.
And let me just say,
I did a little pre-gaming.
I did a little, a lot of drinking.
Wow.
A lot of second bar hopping drinking.
I was, I was, I think I had nine or ten drinks throughout the course of the night and it was bad.
I was, I was, I was hurting.
But while I was pre-gaming, I knew I was going to have a rough night.
I think I actually drank a couple beers at the house waiting for my Uber.
And I took a, remember, I have those electrolyte pills.
And I gave you one at Lift-Hard-Live-Easy.
So I smashed one of those like pre-gaming with beer and then got home and I think I drank.
I took Ivy, because Chris had reminded me, like, yeah, to get some electrolytes and stuff in you when you get back home.
So when he dropped me off at like two in the morning, I, uh, came in.
I did a liquid IV in a couple of water and, uh, like two or three ibuprofen and went
to bed and granted, I was, I was probably still drunk and woke up the next day, but like,
I wasn't, I didn't necessarily get a, uh, hangover at all.
I was just lethargic and just in bed all, but my entire Sunday was just in bed, just
not moving, but like, not no sickness and no real headache.
I was just fucking destroyed.
Yeah.
So that was probably the drunkest I had been in, in quite a many years.
And I, uh, I don't know.
It was fun.
It was fun to let loose.
I don't know that I want to do that very often.
And it was coming off of the heels of being pretty drunk, the crew falls too.
So in a matter of like three weeks, I think I was the two drunkest have been in the last decade.
And I, you know, if I don't drink for a while, I'm okay with that.
Good for you.
But it was fun.
It was very fun.
I don't let loose like that very often.
So it was rare form for me.
Yeah.
It's been a bit of a weird couple of weeks because my birthday was on the 13th.
and I think you guys recorded on my birthday
then we recorded a couple weeks after
and can I tell you that the only thing
anybody knows I like outside of my wife is Jagart
and there was honestly a time
where there was over 100 ounces of Jagger in my house
there was two weeks ago
no it's still here because you can't
like you just physically can't go through that much
jagger but like my buddy got me a 60 ounce
another one got me a 40 ounce or I got myself a 26 ounceer my wife then got me another 20
ounces and my brother on Christmas he's like oh this your birthday present in the freezer
it's another 40 ounces I was like I get expire right no I know because I know that's like a weird
it's got like liquidy syrup or some shit so so I would be worried that like you know unlike regular
liquor I don't know if it had an expiration date so yeah I get that I like yeah I get that I like
Jagger, but like also
get me a
plate sticker of Jagger, get me
some paraphernalia, get me
anything other than the actual alcohol.
They actually, they
reposted my post, because
I took a picture of all of the
Niagara I had in theirs, and I was like,
okay, apparently I didn't have enough. And they
reposted it because they were like, that's
a fucking ton of Jagger, dude. I'm like, I know.
I know.
Well, this is a good plug for anyone listening.
So like Amazon wish list.
There's a secondary app that I use
Just called Go Wish
Go on there, add a bunch of shit to it
And then send that link out to your friends and family
At least make sure your wife has it
So like my wife has it's my wife's the only one that has access to it
On the Go Wish one
But if anyone asked what I want
And there's nothing on Amazon
Then she'll just say hey get him this
That's what he wants so
No more of this getting stupid shit for Christmas
If just keep running list of stuff
Send me Strength Co plates
Plate Snacks covers of the Yager circle
The one behind me
Hold on
this side that send me that don't just give me the hager itself all right i think we that's enough
about us let's get into we're going to the x the christmas draft winter results i think anyone
watching and listening could have already looked them up uh i didn't have to like log in or
anything so it shouldn't be like proprietary information and it's kind of our podcast so it's been
six days i think we can say like these numbers aren't going to change dramatically enough to
to affect the outcome, in my opinion,
because there was a 10 or 15 person difference
between the top two.
So let's just go down the...
One second.
Ryan, did you listen to that episode?
No, I did not.
Okay. Did you happen to vote?
I did not.
Okay, that's fair.
Just wanted to include you in the conversation,
but that's okay.
No, I usually stay up to date,
but the last few weeks have been a little crazy.
It's been hard.
It has genuinely been hard.
The Christmas one really is a good time.
They wanted to listen to.
I tried to consume that this week,
why it's still Christmas adjacent if you didn't like I would skip a couple to maybe get that
one in because it might not be as relevant if you're like listening to it and you know
February uh but yeah so let's just go off I guess we'll do the top three so big mat coming in
with 21% third place no prize for you buddy because we're not we're not tanner we don't have
crew cards to give out so you get a you get a handshake next time we see you uh second place
just edging out Matt they're big edgers out there together in the west coast as big mofo
with 24% and then bringing it home
for her 97th prize win or whatever.
Big Jen, 38%.
Um,
this big Jake and Big Hogan fighting it out there at the bottom.
They both had some admirable ad, admirable.
Yeah, I can't say that.
There's too many bees and bees on top of the thing.
I feel like the reindeer glitter lost it for Hogan.
Yeah.
He like, I mean, I get committing to a bit.
So like, kudos to that.
Like, the results, uh, showed that not many people got it.
And like, I think that.
that was the risk. He was either going to get 80% of the votes or 5% of the votes.
And like it just kind of backfired. And that's just kind of how it worked out.
Everyone's had good list. I feel like most people kind of played it. This is what I want.
This is what's meaningful to me. So then it made it really hard to kind of pick one because it's like, well, that's cool and that's cool. But that's such a personal story that it doesn't resonate with me personally. So like I don't want to vote for that one necessarily because that's such an oddball thing. So it's kind of hard to pick like,
I don't know, but that was cool.
I think I always like listening to those episodes.
It made me think, too, like, man, what's left?
We did Thanksgiving.
We did Christmas.
So it's like, we'll have to do maybe a Halloween one next year.
I don't know if Easter's relevant enough.
Like, I don't know, like, so crew listening, submit some, submit some ideas or, you know,
come up with the ideas next year and, you know, keep these episodes going because we like having
some time off and we like listening to our friends talk on the podcast.
Yeah, it's always fun when I like to listen to my own podcast and I'm not on it.
That's actually, like as much as, hey, I would.
No, it's great.
It is so good because I have something to look forward to.
And getting, like, one week off every 20 is kind of nice every now and then.
Do you want to rate last week's episode?
Uh, yeah.
So now, Big Ryan, you're not up to date on our podcast.
Are you up to date on the sister podcast?
I just listened to it this morning.
All right.
Well, tell us about it.
And what do you think?
If you had to rate it on a five out of five scale, what do you think you'd be at
after you give us a little reminder on it.
Yeah, a little too much of the cardio talk there.
But, you know, very interested in the new bed that Tanner got.
Thinking about getting a piece of plywood myself, I would have to give it five out of five sheets of plywood.
Nice, yeah, he did.
He does like his hard mattress.
I think I was just body type.
Like, I have to have a soft mattress myself because I also have a bigger belly.
So when I'm laying on my side, my belly kind of needs some support.
Whereas Tanner, you know, he's about as big as Joey now.
days, I think. If you look at his pictures, he's just a little guy. So he needs a nice hard mattress.
But good episode. The tier list always create some engagement. So it's smart that they do them
every now and then. You know, it's so much information to consume and they're just like, I don't
know. It's just a lot of, and it kind of makes you think about like, well, what is the best piece
of cardio? And then it's so subjective of whatever gets you out to do something and makes you not
die of a heart attack at 40 is what the best piece of cardio is for you. So I'll go ahead and
give it a five out of five indoor pools.
Okay, I guess that makes it my turn.
First, I want to say waterbed talk complaining about not having a body of water for swimming,
cardio.
Come on, guys.
Like, the answer was right there in front of you.
Because I started picturing those people that have those indoor swimming pools where the current
constantly pushes you and you can just swim in place against them.
Yeah.
We're looking to do another like 40 grand or something.
But then I was like, well, what if your water pool?
bed could just do that like it sounds like we answered all our own questions um i do want to point out
one of my favorite thing about the tier pod or tier episodes is that they rarely ever disagree so it's
never it's never like a hot take it's always just them going yeah yeah that does suck or yeah i do enjoy
that like they almost never disagree to the point that it's like um like how often is one of them
took the mulligan where or the veto like almost never because they always almost agree i think
how much of that is tanner's so passive too like i don't like tanner'd have to have such a strong
i don't know though but i think there's just are all guys from the midwest just the same like that's
just like they are all the same blank but no you are you are right they don't it's like i feel like
jogging is c and tommy's like it is c and tanner's like it is c and i like me and you couldn't do a
draft episode like not if we had to have a consensus like we'd have to have it to where like
we all get to make our own list and then get rated on because like you i don't think you and i
could come to a consensus at all like ever and that's just how you know our banter works differently
from theirs um but it's all the same at the end of the day but yeah yeah so i'm going to give that
five out of five water beds leaking into your bedroom my brother had a water bed as a kid and it was
always the most fun thing to just go stand them like sit kneel on one end and just rock yeah
Because you're, like, six, and this is the coolest thing ever.
I don't think I've seen a waterbed since, like, 1998, maybe.
And were they heated?
That's the other thing.
Were they heated?
I'm sure you could buy more expensive ones that were, but I don't think, like, your basic one was.
Like, was the plastic just so thick that you never got to feel the cold?
But I mean, because that was thick-ass plastic.
But, like, would water get, I don't know, I'm trying to think, like, if you just have a cup of water in your room,
it doesn't get, like, ice cold.
cold. It gets colder
than the room temperature probably, but like
I don't know. I don't know.
So many waterbed question.
Tune in next week for us to not
chat GBT that.
You get the YouTube videos. We had two this
last week that is.
Or no, I'm so confused because we usually record on
we're all off because we're usually record on a third.
So they had the crew. You did. Your notes are correct.
We had the crew falls. Then we had Tommy's flooring.
I did watch the crew falls. Did not
watch Tommy's flooring.
Yeah.
Well, if you watch the crew falls, you saw Tommy's flooring, so close enough.
It was fun.
The crew falls one was really good.
Always, it's just, it's just, I think, was like, go, what do you tell people?
He said, go watch the first 30 seconds because I think it's just like, or even 15 seconds.
I think that was just like a whole bunch of flash cut scenes or whatever.
And then, you know, tell me you don't want to come to crew falls.
I'm like, yeah, man, crew falls.
It's the sleeper, like, you know, crew meetup of the year, man.
It is up there, if not the best.
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for that followback. So if anyone's listening and you're like, huh, why aren't the people
follow me back? Just throw a crew in your profile. You can probably get some followbacks.
Hey, on a side note to that, stop following back porn bots.
Because I get a porn bot follow and it's all crew. And I'm just like, I was like, I was like,
I was like, I fucking don't follow. Not you. I am, I am so over selective of who I follow
on every account. Not you in particular, but I'll get like a follow. Yes.
And I'll go, all right, who are the mutuals? And I'll see a couple names. And I'll be like,
you should know better
that is really funny
you should know better
this person is not looking
for a male counterpart
for their only fans content
don't follow these people back
well speaking of someone
who probably doesn't do that
let's get our guests on the horn what do you think
I think we can get Big Ryan on the horn there
Big Ryan's at you
that is me
hello gentlemen
welcome welcome
let's go ahead and spout out
you're uh let's know who you are where you at on instagram discord all that uh i am beer
bourbon and barbells on instagram um and that's really my only social media on discord and
big east up to hear uh and then just how did you uh you know how'd you find massonomics
uh so i used to do a lot of driving for my job um got tired of listening to books on tapes
So I started listening to podcasts, started listening to, I think it was like barbell, bend or something like that.
And they were only releasing like one a week.
So I started looking around.
Then Massonomics popped up.
I'm like, what the hell is Massonomics?
This doesn't sound like lifting at all.
Started episode 150-ish and pretty much listened to every episode since, went back and listened to the back catalog after I found out there was a more original host.
So by 150, they were.
probably doing guest interviews and whatnot at that point they were going a lot of guest
interviews yeah yeah and then uh yeah it's about 20 episodes later they mentioned they had more
host i'm like what the hell so went back and started listening because i had more time isn't it weird
the first time you hear tyler's voice after only hearing tanner and tommy for like maybe however
long you listen to tanner tommy and then you hear tyler and you're like what the fuck is this thing
this is all right well you go back and listen to the very first after show like who is this guy
and then he got into a groove after you know a number of episodes so
It was good.
Well, where are you from, where you live?
I am just outside of Cincinnati, Ohio.
So I've always been there my whole life.
So are you Midwest or no?
I'm going to argue that Ohio is broken up.
So part of it is the Midwest.
And Midwest is more of a feel, I would say.
Ooh, that sounds like riding the line.
And it is riding the line.
Cincinnati is like very southwest in Ohio though, isn't it?
Yeah, it's very southwest.
So if you were going to be, if there was a part of Ohio that's going to be Midwest,
it'd be Cincinnati and Cincinnati adjacent, I'd imagine, right?
Yeah, it's that weird spot where you have, people are like, oh, we're south because
we're right by Kentucky or we're Midwest or we're east.
It's just, Ohio is weird.
Yeah, I guess I could see people, because like, yeah, I could see people considering it
south because, like, and there's a lot of people in West Virginia to consider that this, like,
it's the northeast in my opinion but it's still like part of it like the southern part of the state
could be considered the south by some people so if you're in the southern part of ohio it's about
the same line there uh so speaking of uh you did mention back catalog what's your hall of fame
status hall of fame says i am seven and this makes eight yes nice yes always happy to help
what's the low hanging fruit ones you're missing because from what we've uh well what's your
sporting membership number and then we'll circle back to this i guess uh sporting membership uh sporting
membership uh sporting membership number um super low number for uh super low number for only have an eight so what do you
uh like like he's he's almost up there with me uh i haven't been through the arnold i don't get out there
to do you are like you're like a fucking you're two hours away from the arnold aren't you like i get it
like don't yeah i can't say i feel that i always tell people got to get to go to the arnold once but
yeah but now that home gym
Ton might be on there. I think I can cross that one off.
Big might. Big maybe.
Big might. Tanner still got a thumbs that up in which I'm pretty, he essentially has done everything except say yes, but it will be from like 26.
Well, he, he, he, not predate it. As much as we say that, he does check with Tommy on all of that.
It is a consensus between the two of them. But as we are the same person, so they really don't have to.
Yeah, Tani and Tamer.
speaking of home gym con i met you at home jim con this year didn't i yes we did that's what i thought
i was like i was like i know this guy i was like oh yeah yeah we had dinner together and whatnot so
nope so yeah and then went to that uh the bull riding bar after that oh you were there okay
yeah so i didn't have any i were you tempted to get on the bull because i i i was for about
a second until i saw some asshole get jerked around and i was like oh god i'm and i remember
i was 40 and i was like i'm not doing that
Yeah, exactly. I'm 40. I do need to pull a muscle, riding a pool at a random bar.
Yeah, not to improve. Yeah. So I feel that for sure.
So what is the one piece of Massonomics merch that you missed out on?
I really want the bench in 315. But until I can bench 315, I just could not buy it.
Fair. That's fair, because you would have now missed out on two rounds of that.
So you had your chance to get it.
but it's a moral
maybe one day
if they do a third run
it's a moral obligation
for you
yeah
yeah I get it
yeah I can't bench 3 15
but I well
I think when I bought it
I had
I had slingshot it
in board press that much
so I was like
eh
315 adjacent
so
I just got it
because it was a stone cold shirt
yeah
I can barely bench
half that
I'm not
I'm not even gonna pretend
uh well
I saw on Instagram
you got a pretty nice gym
there
I'm pretty sure it's certified
what's the uh tell us about that you're the gym name yeah so uh i've had a home gym now for
15 years start off with just a smith machine a couple uh dumbbells in a basements and a townhome
and now i'm uh at our new house built a barn make sure to overbuild it and i got a was it
roughly 20 by 30 gym in there.
Got power racks, leg press, bench, a whole bunch of stuff in there.
Just keep adding to it.
That's how it goes.
15 years.
There's no way, for 15 years, you don't have anything from the original gym at all.
Do you even have like a pair of collars or anything from the original gym?
Do you have anything from the townhouse?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Still kept some of that stuff.
That's why it's so full.
So what's the one piece of a.
equipment that you're missing to finally get strong?
Good question.
There's a lot for me to finally get strong.
No, I was pretty excited.
Actually, I just got the leg press hack squat probably a month or so ago.
That's been great.
Really, there's nothing on my wish list besides some bigger dumbbells eventually, but I'm
pretty happy with it.
Insulating the barn, that would be on my wish list.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
wow yeah that was a that was a dumb decision when I said no to that thinking I could just tough it out
you can't tough it out yep no future me we'll figure this out and future me mad it was easy and like
open and do you at least I mean so you just have open studs then that just need to be insulated or
are you thinking of spray foam or just throwing a bunch of fiberglass in there yeah so it's all open
I started putting some insulation in the the rafters and spots where air does get in but I want to
keep it pretty open because I like to do runs
on the inside when I'm doing like
yo carries and farm
farmer holds
there's a cat there's a cat
there's a cat there's my baby
it's my pretty little princess
look at her
sorry I'm sorry I got you're good
always take cat breaks
but yeah it's
it's just one of those things where I got
some propane heaters in there it keeps it relatively
warm but when the temperature drops into the
20s that it just doesn't keep up
So there's a local gym in my town
I go to a couple months out of the year.
Okay.
Yeah, just put some hay.
Just duct tape some hay around it.
You'll be fine.
Maybe Tommy has some ideas
where I can get some wool to help insulate.
So when you reached out to some of your friends and family
and said, hey, I remember being on this podcast,
you know, how did you go about explaining that?
um i pretty much just send the link and said here's this fill it out if you have questions
just let me know they did it i mean the only one who actually had a lot of questions of my wife
because she was more or less what the hell so i think she submitted like the least out of any
she just skipped like half of them too i was like yeah that sounds we're working with what we got
does she know what massonomics is um a little bit yeah she's heard me talk about it uh she was with me
at home gym con so she she saw some of that that craziness there well she if she was at dinner with us she
had to have got the just no she didn't go to dinner but uh she she saw you know kind of the the gym feel
and you know me talking to people so yeah because i you could kind of get away with like home gym con
was for the home gym so you probably didn't even have to like say i'm gonna i'm really just
going to see all my mass nomadic buddies for the first time it wasn't uh you know because you can
kind of like we're gonna go look at gym equipment yeah you know the guys you met at home gym
con the guys that like them are going to interview me yeah and i can see a wife going okay honey
bye that's pretty much what i'm going to podcast about a podcast she just kind of gave me a blank stare
just just fill it out you'll be fine just uh just the chirping cricket yeah okay uh you want
do least fun most fun yeah big ryan i'm good with this game we came up with here it's called
least fun most fun i'm going to give you a
single topic and it's your ultimatum, no, your agenda, your task to respond with two different
answers of what the least fun thing about said topic is and what the most fun thing about said topic
is. So we're going to hit you with camping and a camper. You know, I saw a big old
RV. I couldn't tell if it was an RV or like a fifth wheel, but you have some kind of very large
camper in your gym. So I was like, oh, that's gym related. So let's, I want to hear about it.
camping um let's start off with the least fun is just hooking it all up and setting everything up
what do you actually happen so sorry uh just so you it's just a pull behind travel trailer gotcha okay
it's a 35 foot so it's relatively long oh yeah um but i'm one of the guys who i pull it out of
the barn set it all up outside my house we can load it all up hook it up to the truck set it all back up
again then go to the campground and everything like that so by the time a camping trip's done
i've set it up and taking it down four or five times um yeah so a lot of work there um most fun
i'm sorry what was that uh bad joke did you make a six seven joke i did just because oh more
more than anything out of spite you fucking nerd not that i think it's funny but just to like make
fun of those people yeah yeah that's how it starts and i hope i hope i never say it again though
because I feel like a piece of shit now.
Yeah, but we are at work the day and somebody said six or seven and me and one of the
other guys looked at each other, just plain eye contact and both did the hand motion.
And he looked at us both and was like, I hate you guys so much right now.
But that's how it starts.
Yeah, I have a six-year-old who does not shut up about it.
You cannot even say any of those numbers around him.
No, my little girl, I do it on purpose with my little girl.
My son doesn't give a crap.
he's six but she's four
and if I go
hey honey
six seven she'll go six seven
she gets really excited
so like that's always nice
ooh what you got what you got
what's the milligrams
oh it's just
a little three
ah
okay
I got 15s
gummy gummy bear
it's a new flavor
I'm not too amped about it
oh
no I just stick with the cool mint
just
yeah
um
Up here, we get the Swedish ones.
So I know you guys only have three to nine milligrams down there.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, and then you have the weird Pablo's that go like as high as 30.
I can get 12 to 18 in actual zins.
I normally prefer the cool Skittles,
but I wanted to go off the grid and get the gummy bear.
Mad regrets.
I wish I hadn't done that.
I haven't tried any of those flavors yet.
What's that?
I haven't tried any of those flavors yet.
No, no, you guys can't for some reason,
because you guys can only get the American Made Zins.
They got some new flavors out that I've seen,
but it's just, I don't know.
I don't want candy for my nicotine.
You'd be shocked, because I don't want mint for my nicotine,
because it burns,
but you get the cool Skittles,
and it's skittles and it's skittles with mint.
It's gorgeous.
It's the best flavor you can get.
Fair enough.
All right.
So back to most fun.
of
oh yeah we were having a podcast here
whatever yeah
whatever you didn't do yet
the most fun is once everything's set up
I have an outdoor refrigerator
and I have my beverages out there
and I can just sit out, watch a TV
and do nothing the rest of time
kids can ride their bikes around
and just can enjoy nature
if I want to walk around
if not I got my AC I can go into
I got my heat I can go into
I'm good to go.
Three season or four season?
What's that the camper?
Yeah.
Three, we don't go over the winter, but it's capable if I really wanted to.
I could go camping now.
But now we are, we camp maybe six times a year.
It's a lot.
I think I think if I had a camper, I'd like have to go at least quarterly to justify it.
I mean, it's a lot unless you really enjoy camping.
in which case
I only went once this year
and I think it's the first time
I went in six years
and yeah
I miss it so much
do you want to do
hype person or do you want to do
who would you rather train with
you got your choice here
which one's the hardest
man
let's do hype
because I actually get two answers here
I know I'm
of course
Going off topic here.
No, you're always allowed.
Of course, my kids, number one, they've been at many of my competitions hyping me up.
So that always gets me going to the point where there was a Conan's wheel.
They were cheering me on, nearly passed out because I didn't want to give up when they're cheering me on.
It's just the coolest thing.
It is.
But if I could pick anyone else to hype me up, Chris Farley.
That'd be interesting.
like you imagine it around you for a big lift and chris farley's just in front of you just yelling is he
is he doing the motivational speaker he's doing the motivational speaker of course he is
listen you got lots of time for lifting weights when you're living in a van down by the river
shit your pants laughing shit your pants squatting absolutely good call good call and even him
like not as that character
would be pretty incredible
because he can get over the top
all right
all right
Keith is just clicking things off here
your job do you want to
you want to talk at all about it
I can talk a little bit about it
but it's in the biotech
field
primarily work with robots
and programming them to
move a bunch of little tiny liquids around
for a bunch of different samples
so
Damn, that's cool.
Pretty much, yeah.
It sounds cool.
It is what it is.
It's fine.
I mean, it probably sounds cool to people that don't do it.
And the fact that you do it, you're like, yeah, this is what I do.
But I imagine you could get somebody in it that would be like, this is the coolest shit.
Yeah, it's not too bad.
I do travel a little bit.
So it's just one of those things where, like, one of these customers who have big issues,
next thing you know, you got to go out there the very next day to solve what the problem is
because they're running hundreds of thousands of samples
in a relatively short period.
So you've got to figure out what the hell is going wrong really quickly.
And then, okay, so tell me about your lifting over 20 years?
Yes, yeah.
So I've been lifting since, God, really over 20 years.
Started at 15 N-A barn gym with my cousin.
We would work hay and tobacco all day.
in the summers, and then we'd start lifting in the evenings, listening to Metallica and ACDC.
So that's where it all started.
And then, let's see, after high school, lifting in the college gyms, YMCA's, all that stuff, like a dumbass.
You train four days a week on arms and chest.
You look at a squat rack and say that's legs.
Did that for a while.
Then when I graduated college, didn't have any money.
So I took up a running, did running for a long time, did triathlons, 5Ks, things like that, some tough mutters.
And then once I finally got a big boy job and had money, I joined CrossFit.
I only did that for like six months.
And the coach there realized I am, even though I did all the running, I still was pretty terrible at any of the cardio stuff.
So he asked me if I wanted to start powerlifting.
And I did powerlifting for about a year, blew out my shoulder.
And when I came back, that's where I wanted to do kind of that mix of CrossFit, where it changes, but also lift heavy things.
So I started Strongman.
I was in Strongman for a long time and started adding powerlifting back into that.
Do you have a preference?
I like powerlifting right now, just because.
because I don't have a set number of anything.
I have to hit.
It's just me versus the weight.
But I do like Strongman just because it is fun when you're not going to zero every event.
So you're actively competing in both sports then, or you just have trained in them?
No, I've actually, I've competed in both.
Yeah.
Nice.
Yeah.
So I've done about 10 or 12 Strongman competitions.
I did one power lifting.
I did the Home GymCon one.
and then I got another one
Oh, the USAPL meet there?
Okay.
Yep.
Nice.
I know, PLU.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I thought it was huge.
Yeah, there was always a lot of,
I think I didn't meet the year before.
It might have been U.S.
appeal or a change last minute, maybe, I think.
Yeah, if it was U.S.A.P.L.
It would have been boring.
Yeah, that was my first one.
I liked it.
So, been training powerlifting
pretty consistently since that one, too.
Nice.
What's, what's this year's agenda?
What's 26 going to look like then?
What are you doing at the Lift Hard Live Easy?
I am not going anything at the Lift Hard Live Easy.
I keep debating.
I'm not done it yet.
But I'm doing powerlifting meet in April,
and then I'll start looking around maybe for some strong man stuff over the summer.
Just my kids play sports all year round,
so it's really hard to find that open Saturday.
I don't want to say it to like, you know,
to scare people off or say that we know anything,
but like don't sleep on banking that Lyft Hard Levisi will be there in five years
or even two years from now.
Like if there's 10% of you that says,
oh, that'd be really cool to go do.
Do it fucking this year, dude.
Like don't, like I understand family money, travel, etc.
But like don't expect it to be there in 27, 28, 2930.
Like we want it to be.
Like we're not saying we don't want it to be there.
But like, it, like, they're not going to do it.
forever like something's going to happen potentially so
it's like just I don't
get one in why you can I like to tell
people and competing
is two checks
yeah because it's attending and competing
and you get the and you can do the lift of the gym
so that's three pretty much be in the hall
you literally just go you'd be in the hall of fame pretty much
but not you start talking to it
I just like I just like warning people that like don't like
like you got a camper
I mean you're already in the Midwest you're almost there
You just can go a couple more miles to the west.
You'll be there.
It's only like a 20 hour hall.
Is it 20?
I don't know what it would be.
It'd be a long haul.
Yeah, you're going to say it's like 20.
It's 22 or 24 from here.
I think it's like 22 for me.
So you're probably 15 or 18.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's however long they take to get to the Arnold,
I'm another two hours away from Columbus.
Yeah, okay.
It's not that close, but it's not that far.
I mean, if you do come out, I promise we won't call you fuzzy feet.
Nah, one of those guys are going to be an asshole.
I mean, we've got to have something.
Like, we can't, like, we don't, so what is there a story there?
Yeah, let's skip that story.
Okay.
What about what martini?
Is that a funny one?
Yeah, we'll go with that.
That one's a funnier one.
So, me and my college roommate, we were drinking relatively heavily, and I had ran out of
or for my vodka.
So I used my fruit punch-flavored creatine.
So that was dumb for one.
Wait,
was it powder?
It was powder, yeah.
Hell yeah.
It was just great vodka with powder, yeah.
Absolutely amazing.
So to say nonetheless, it was a rough night.
But there were a couple other people in our dorm chilling with us.
And one of their last names was martini.
I made the joke about turning her into a wet martini
when she looks at me.
Nice.
Nice.
Yeah.
Slick.
And that's,
wow.
Is it a pun intended?
Um, yes.
No,
there's no way that pun was intended.
No,
what you just said.
Oh,
I'm getting way too vulgar here.
Oh.
Oh,
oh,
dude.
Oh,
unacceptable.
He's the one that fucking said it,
not me.
Yeah,
I went like slick like in cool,
bro.
I know.
Nate,
we went to edit that out.
So people,
No, I'm playing onto it.
That was pretty good.
That was a good call.
Oh, wow.
So, like, that was the, that was the tamer story.
Damn.
That's, that's impressive.
It says here you've done Highland as well.
I competed in a strong man competition that was half Highland, half strong man.
So I did some Highland Games events.
I think they had four or five Highland Game events.
As part of it, they had two strong men.
So it wasn't full Highland games, but I'll count it.
okay but it like it wouldn't be a part of like the highland games is there like a scoreboard for
hiling games okay yeah one of the wolf pack crew can call us out on that one um i should i should know
that so you do some uh i i see some homemade stuff out in the garage or in the in the barn that is
i saw the the PVC yoke for the kids that looks pretty cool because i was actually had some weight on
it too like it wasn't just like a first for show yep yeah so uh my
a lot of my stuff in my gym was DIY for the longest time just because I'd see a piece of equipment
I liked, could not justify the price, would build it to see if I actually used it.
So like my first yoke I had was a chain yoke.
I built my first log, things like that.
I did see the log.
Was that just like two by fours at like 45, like that angles or something?
No, four by fours.
So four by four is all screwed together and whatnot.
So I used that for a while.
And then my kids.
would come out there.
They would try to lift something up.
They couldn't.
So I built a log and a yoke and things like that for him.
Pretty cool.
That is really.
So, yeah, my six-year-old comes out and runs around with that yoke for a while.
And I actually got my 11-year-old lifted with me now.
So he has his own bar and everything like that.
I saw that and that he's competing or she.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he has the PLU record now for Ohio for 10 to 11-year-olds or 10 to 12-year-olds.
Nice.
Yeah, what bar did you end up buying them?
Because I think we've actually had some talk in Discord and some group chats of like, hey, what bar should my X-year-old kid use?
It was a rogue junior bar.
Yeah, sort of like 25 pounds.
He started off with that for the longest time.
He's kind of gotten to the big boy bar for everything now.
So now my 6-year-old, he's starting to trickle into the junior bar.
Pretty impressive.
It is.
Yeah.
What's mini farming?
I don't like to say I'm a farmer, just because around here, when you say you're a farmer,
it's people have combines and big farm equipment, but I have a couple of, well, I say a couple acres.
I live on 12 acres, so we have, you know, pretty good size fields that we do pumpkins, corn,
set up at farmers markets, things like that.
Oh, well.
That's probably slightly more than being many, but yeah, I could see not wanting to say you're
a farmer and then having big Nick come up and talk to you about combines and stuff
when you see him at home gym con and be like wait you're a you're a fucking fraud yeah talking
about corncy I don't know anything you're not in my coalition yeah yeah so do you do some
coaching it looks like or yeah I uh so I live in a smaller community and once you volunteer to coach
one sport you pretty much have volunteered to coach every sport you're on the you're on the mailing list
from now on of like sir we need your assistance i coach all year round so um soccer in the fall
basketball in the winter and uh tea ball or baseball in the spring so all year round coach them
i love it hate it it's it is what it is they once your kids age out you'll be like oh man
i really do well you'll probably have a year a point there where like a couple years are like oh this
is awesome having my freedom back and then you'd be like oh man i kind of miss that but i guess the good thing
as you could always still volunteer, even if your kids are aged out.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I've already started planning it out.
So, like, once my oldest gets to a certain point, I'll start coaching my younger one at certain sports.
So that way, I stay with him until he ages out.
So I got another six years of coaching in me.
Oh, nice.
Keep you busy for a little bit.
Oh, yeah.
Bear with me.
I'm just adding to some unpaid and underrated.
So you keep going, Keith.
Yeah, there was I copy and paste it what was submitted and added a couple of them.
Got it.
I got it.
I want to hear about your
What is what is
So I'm saying when you play beer league basketball
It's written down as C team basketball legend
What's what is enlighten me on C team basketball
So we
The fraternity I was part of
They had of course the rec leagues
And the A team was the good players
B team was the pretty okay players
And C team was the rest of us
And I was on the rest of us
team and i i didn't play a ton but um yeah i i would get in there and just uh do the do the dirty
work virtually being you know five 10 and guard the guys who were like six five just a you know
it was a very small there's a very short small forward but he yeah but i there there is no
coordination here so asking me to dribble the ball down the court and it just wasn't happening so
just go down low and do your thing.
It was kind of like we're watching a drunken rhino play basketball.
I see, I see.
So the next one I'm going to ask you,
it's kind of relevant because we've had a few crew member somewhat recently in the last year,
like a few months that had some fire incidences growing up.
So here I see that you save the family house or the family in general from a fire once.
Is there a, maybe that's not a real story?
story. That is no story I know. All right. All right. What about, so you had a friend that's
an asshole then, I guess. Were you ever held by the cops because you match the description
of someone else? Oh, yeah, that one I was. Yeah, it was actually the night before my engagement
photos. So we had me and my buddies had gone out to a bar. At the time, I was mixing
monster and vodka, of course. As one does. As one does. So, you know, it's three in the morning.
I still can't sleep because I hyped up on all the monster.
I was pretty well sobered up at that point and heard a screaming from the next apartment
building.
So I'm like, what the hell is that?
So I ran over there.
A woman comes running out.
So I'm talking to her.
Someone had broken into her apartment.
So we talked for about five, ten minutes.
Cops show up.
Like, okay, I'm just going to go on back.
I'm going to get out of the way.
As soon as I start walking back, cop car pulls up.
They say, you match the description.
They throw me in the back of the cop car.
I'm like, you've got to be.
be kidding me. They take me right
up to the woman. She's like, yeah, he matches the description.
Like, I just talked to you for five
minutes and you don't recognize
me at all.
People are fucking crazy. So, uh, sat in the cop car for
15, 20 minutes, fully expecting
I'm going to go to jail.
Uh, the guy who broke into the
apartment was another college guy who
looked nothing like me. It was like 6,5, 150 pounds.
He just happened to be wearing a black polo shirt
and blue jeans. So they found his wallet and
they let me go but it's like really you know that's
trying to be a good guy yeah that happened to me once
as a as a kid I was in in the mall
and it was in my goth face so I would have had long long red hair
all black black nails
just like hanging out with my goth friends and the security guard walks up and he goes
were you just over here at this store and I'm like no I'm sitting here for an hour
and he's like well you fit the description and I'm looking at myself like
really like there's somebody here that looks like this if you said it now we're bald
head and beard like i might figure okay yeah there's lots of dudes that look like me but
yeah fit the description that's a good line you go back to 2010 i'm pretty sure 90% of guys
wore a black polo shirt and blue jeans anytime they went out so yeah yeah okay do you want to
a game there, Keith? Yeah.
Yeah, I suppose we can.
I gotta do like 30 seconds of research
on something real quick. If you want to tell the
did you get picked to kick a field goal at a game once?
Yeah, so there was an indoor arena
football team at my
college and we
went there, me and a bunch of my buddies, and
obviously you could tell a lot of our stories were from
heavy drinking.
me and one of the other guys
got picked to kick the field goal
both of us were relatively inebriated
he missed very badly
and when I went up thinking I was hot shit
I end up hitting the mascot
Nice nice
Mascot had it coming probably
Yeah
sure did
Under cool hobbies it says that you're really bad at Mario Kart
How
God he's an asshole
So me and my college roommate
Every night we would play
In64 Mario Kart
All 16 tracks
And see who would get the better of the night
And I would say
Probably three quarters of the time he won
So he decided to call you out on that
He did
And same guy
You built a table out of what
Table out of what?
Table out of what
I built a couple
table, so now I'm kind of confused.
Dip cans and beer caps?
Oh, yeah, that one.
Oh, yeah, that one.
That one.
Yeah, I thought it would be cool that we got a cheap table at a thrift store,
lined the whole top of it with bottle caps, use dip cans, replace the legs.
That was our decor, so.
Very college.
yeah it was a very very college
all right
now we can do a little game
so I'm leery about some of these
suggestions you know now that we've got a couple
swinging misses from your buddies so are you a Tom Hanks fan
I am very much okay
so we're going to do FMK
a couple of few Tom Hanks movies
since that sounds something they'd be up your alley
now is there a have you pretty much
do you think there's an era of Tom Hanks movies
you haven't seen before I list some movies off
so I'm not like just giving you ones that you're going to fall flat
on.
Hit or miss.
All right.
Well, I'll just go with the tops then.
So, all right.
So, FMK, we're going to go, Forrest Gump,
saving Private Ryan,
and, ooh,
let's go Green Mile.
So, Forrest Gump, saving Private Ryan,
Green Mile.
Wow, those are probably three of my top ten.
Couldn't have made it easy, eh?
Couldn't give you some of the shit ones.
All right.
And Tommy, let me know how many of these have you seen, buddy.
Um,
Going to have to marry Tom Hanks, or Tom Hanks.
Yeah.
Mary, uh, Forrest Gump's my, my all-time favorite movie.
Just, love it.
Um, let's go ahead and kill.
It's going to be tough.
It's going to be mad at yourself, whichever way you go.
Yeah, I am.
Let's kill, uh, saving private Ryan.
Oh.
I can see that, but it's tough.
Yeah, it's, I love that one.
but the green mile is
let's just go ahead and lay that one
lay that one with the bed
I'm gonna like cry in all three of those movies
too so it's like that's a hard that's such a hard
decision that was a good one
yeah no I think I only cried during the green mile
not the end of saving private Ryan
yeah I think we're spoiler alert
but yeah well I'm definitely some tearworthy
it's 20 years old
there's no spoilers anymore
can we agree that Jenny is the
the most evil villain
I was gonna ask
that was that was gonna be a follow up is
and I'm like I've always had that opinion
until someone I think I read
I was like well you gotta understand
that she was like essayed by her dad
like her unto childhood so like she has
mental issues from that
and then like that got a whole new perspective on it
like I still think she's an evil human
like in the movie but like when you
like when you think of that first part it's like
oh but like I guess she can
she's allowed to be because that trauma
I don't know but but storytelling
doesn't allow for that, right?
The storytelling is he chased her the entire movie
and she was constantly, like, out of reach
until she settled for him, which...
No, I'm the biggest proponent of I hate Jenny,
but until I read that recently,
until I read that recently,
I was inredeemable, and then I was like,
oh, well, yeah, I guess that's it.
Yeah, that's actually a good perspective.
Thank you.
Who do you think is worse, though?
Jenny or Rose from Titanic?
Rose and Titanic.
Horrible human.
Yeah.
Awful.
Awful lady.
Jenny's,
I don't know.
I don't know enough.
Rose literally could have like gave her entire family lifetime wealth and she just threw it in the fucking ocean.
And she could have gave Bill Paxton like utter peace and she just threw it away.
There was also room for fucking Jack on the goddamn door.
And she was she was just slumming it.
She was just like, oh, what a fine.
She was cheating in her fiance.
Yeah.
And she, you know, when she dies, she goes and her memories with the one night stand she had versus the entire life.
Not the man that like, you know, she had dozens of kids with or whatever.
Yeah.
Like, yes.
Now, Rose is, I think, I think Jenny knew she was a piece of shit.
Rose didn't.
So Rose is the bigger piece of shit.
Yeah.
I'll raise the AIDS, baby.
sorry it's a family guy reference
I make a lot of those
Mount Rushmore
I have a lot I have a lot I could go on
but I'm going to go with the safe
top four wrestling moments
did you submit that one
maybe
okay
yeah maybe
okay top four wrestling moments
so of course hell of the cell mankind undertaker that's that's got to go on there i mean that
that changed wrestling yep um let's go with the montreal screw job that's up there
why i mean it's been what 20-something years and people are still talking about it just how shady
that was done and what it brought to the
WCW when, I mean,
Crow Har was already going over there,
but it just, to me,
it brought more attention over there.
Okay.
Yeah.
And then WCW spoiled it.
Yeah.
And that's where, yeah,
that's where, yeah, that'd imagine.
Hot take would have to be the Lex Lugar slam on Yokozuna.
Okay.
Why is that a hot take?
I don't think many people talk about that one.
it's just it was so over the top it was on that uh that uh was aircraft carrier was just
all set up it was just kind of an over the top moment that many people don't think about yep
okay um and then let's go with uh sean michaels winning wrestlemania the first time with
the when he came down off uh from the the top of the arena who was that can you remember who that
was against but just that was such a buildup with the guerrilla monsoon stuff i think i actually don't know
that could have been against diesel but it also could have been against brett heart i don't remember
who that was against but it's just such an over-the-top moment that it's in my in brain and embedded in my
childhood and it solidified who he was and he's one of the greatest of all time oh yeah interesting part
i don't know who submitted this but for your met rushmore and i really wanted to
to highlight this, insert any millennial hot take.
I thought that was really funny.
So whoever did that, you can tell them, good for them.
That's really funny.
Yeah, yeah.
So follow up, just your top four wrestlers in general.
Undertaker.
Mm-hmm.
Stone Cold.
Mm-hmm.
I would have to go with Sean Michaels.
be crazy not to
yeah and then
I want to ride
you know what let's let's do the alien face as well
we'll go with
the rock and mankind so obviously you know what
era wrestling yeah yep you're an attitude
error guy oh yeah I watch that
I watched
not to not to prolong wrestling talk
but you of all people
I know right I did watch
like a 20 minute thing the other day that
I didn't know maybe you've talked about
in the past with that. I don't know, uh, Vince McMahon started a, uh, a bodybuilding league that lasted
for like 18 months. He did. And it was like, it was like a, it was actually a very entertaining.
Like it was like a, it was like a 20 minute. It was like a non-WWE supported because like there's just
like, there that's actually like catches my eyes sometimes. And I just like went down a rabbit
hole watching that whole video. And it was like, Vince McMahon tries bodybuilding, you know,
and like just the shit he did to try to keep it afloat and like the millions of dollars he put into it to
have it just fall on its face and turn it into not bodybuilding and it was wild it was a very
intriguing kind of little thing so it was yeah I started watching that Vince McMahon documentary and
they they talked about that and how the uh whole steroid controversy thing killed that
oh yeah because they did have to get them off the juice there too this everyone everyone like
year two versus year one was just completely flat and had lost everyone had lost like 30 pounds
essentially or whatever imagine bodybuilding without
it just saying i do have i do have some friends that do natural bodybuilding but like they're just
super like lean dudes that are like catholic as shit but they're also they look normal they
but they're not the vince mcman extravagant version of what he pictures himself to be oh yeah i
could go off on vince mcman for hours if i had the chance and this is not the chance
all right oh my comment
Is anything
I swear I gotta get Nate
to switch up additional info
more to the top
because every time we get done with games
I want to go into unpaid
it's like oh
there's four more paragraphs
I gotta look through real quick
I think we're good
nothing's jumping out at me at that
is there anything you wanted to hit on
for we hit unpaid
no I've been jumping around
all over the place
good deal
Big Ryan are you familiar
with unpaid or underrated
I am familiar
with unpaid and underrated
enough that you want
to describe it to your wife who's 100% not listening?
Yeah, if it is, yeah, she will never listen to this.
If it is unpaid, then it's something that you do not like.
It's not great.
No one likes to be unpaid.
And if it's underrated, it's not getting the appreciation that it truly deserves.
Indeed, indeed.
All right.
So we're each going to hit you with a handful here.
I'm going to go ahead and lead it off for the first few.
Unpaid or underrated Steakhouses.
oh definitely unpaid um i i do not like steakhouses i just cannot justify paying 60 70
for a piece of steak that is mediocre in your mind are you thinking like like super bougie
places or like you're talking like outback and roadhouse and longhorn like like like oh even that
any even yeah because those are like you know 28 30 dollar stakes so any okay yeah even that um i mean so
I grew up. We always had cows growing up. We'd have steak once a week. So it's just one of those
things where you just got so used to it. So we got a steakhouse. It's just like, I don't want to
pay for this. I can go to the grocery store or when I get my own steak. I know how to cook it
just fine. If I'm going to go to a nice restaurant, I'm going to get something I can't cook
myself. And I would say what would be an example? Like, what is your, all right, you and your
wife are going on date night and you get to pick the restaurant where you're going?
We're going to go Mexican.
weekend. Okay. Yeah. I mean a good burrito cover with some
casso, something like that.
Yeah, maybe some fried chicken. I don't know.
What's your spice level on the burritos?
Oh, um, very, very low. Okay. I do not like my spiciness.
Unpaid or underrated your fantasy football team or fantasy
football. Let's go. That was, I think I was a bit someone through it. So that was a
dig so fantasy football as a whole uh as a whole is um i'm going to go with unpaid as well
just got me and my buddies we've been doing this since college and it's just we have a group
chat we chat all year rounds and it started off as a fantasy football league so it you know
it's just one of those things where you have that group of buddies just doing that um and just
to throw it back at my my buddy i have won a championship so he can go in
need that.
Nice.
Let's see.
You got lots, man.
You got lots.
No, I know.
Unpaid or underrated.
Facebook marketplace.
Oh, I'm going to ride the line on both this.
Because it is both unpaid and underrated.
You will find the hell of a deal.
um it's just it's very unpaid when people don't answer you or you're trying to sell something and
they say they're going to show up and they don't and you're wasting a whole saturday waiting
on someone to come pick up something so frustrating but is very much underrated when you find
that steel of a deal like i got a texas power bar for a hundred bucks i got oh yeah that was you
200 oh yeah um was it for 45 pound plates for a hundred dollars i mean it's when you find the
deals those are great but it's just dealing with the bullshit most of the time could i said it
better is kind of how it is yeah you do have to take the you have you do have to take the good
good with the bad and i think you almost still have to call it underrated because it's still
better than i don't know like craigslist was horrible but like there was less interaction so like
you didn't get a million
like accidental is this available
because they just clicked on the like
they're not actually asking you
is it available they just fat thumbed the fucking ad
and it's just they're a bot
yeah I do no Craigslist I did get a lot of
fakes text but if you just have it set up
where it only goes through your email then it's like
it's as only you're only as inconveniences
you are looking at a couple emails versus marketplace
which is just constantly fucking ding ding ding ding ding
so yeah so I mean
the day though you can't ride the line so I do need
unpaid or underrated as a whole
I know I don't
Let's go with underrated, just because you will find the good stuff.
People just would come pick up their shit when they say they're going to.
I've kind of learned that if it's like under $100, I don't know, $100, $50 on
that.
Like, I'm not going to give you my address until you tell me you're on your way and you're
either going to Venmo me or you're going to leave the money in the mailbox.
I'm not talking to you.
Like if it's like, if I can look at your profile and I know you're into home gyms and
like I know we'll vibe like maybe but like if you tell me you can't come till nine o'clock or
something no it's gonna be porch pickup leave the money in the mailbox fuck off like like and if
you ghost me that's fine and if you steal it from me I don't even care because it's not worth
me to even talking to you so anything under $100 I just fucking porch pickup the dink life
the dink life steal it from you I don't care I just it's not worth the the fucking also my
wife goes to bed at seven o'clock at night so I can't have people come oh yeah also
Oh, leave me alone.
Bring in the doorbell.
So it's more of,
it's more of the,
how do I not disturb my wife?
Yeah,
we've been selling a lot of our kids' toys lately,
and it's just,
it's a nightmare every time you post something on there.
Can you get 50 is this available?
And only like five people respond back after you say yes.
Yeah,
I got to the point where I just started donating them.
Like,
I literally,
I just didn't want to deal with that shit.
I was like,
you know what?
I'd rather some kid that can't afford this gets this
than this fucking asshole on Facebook.
Yeah.
Pardon my language.
That's what I got.
Why don't you do one more to recover from the writing line?
All right.
Unpaid or underrated male stripping.
Is there a story there if or is this is not another buddy screwing with you?
No, it's not that.
I mean, not even came from my wife.
I was, yeah, obviously very cocky.
when I was younger so
there was a lot of times
where I would be
a quote unquote a male stripper
at different events
and I'll go ahead and say
it is
underrated
oh hell yeah
yeah so were you
were you the Patrick Swayze or the Chris
Farley to call back to Chris Farley? Oh it was definitely
Chris Farley yeah definitely
yeah yeah got
if anyone
is anyone's
If she doesn't know that reference, she's too young for you, bro.
Yeah.
I can't say it was always the prettiest.
Well, that's why we're crew, buddy.
Okay, my turn, I guess.
Yep.
Unpaid or underrated.
My name got dropped on this one, Apple Products.
Oh, definitely unpaid.
I have Apple products for work.
I just don't like them.
And for personal reason, I use Android.
I love my Android.
But my work, it gave me iPad, iPhone.
I love how they sync up together, but I just don't like using any of the apps besides the ones I have to use for work.
I just don't like it.
I don't like the interface.
Fair, fair.
Secret, it doesn't, it doesn't bother me.
Oh, yeah, I've been in the, I was in the industry long enough to know that they all do the same thing.
whatever you prefer is the best for you.
Unpaid or underrated lifting music.
I'm going to have to say,
underrated.
I mean, you got to have some kind of lifting music going on.
I can't listen to podcasts and lift,
but it does not have to be hardcore metal or anything like that.
I'm good with a little Moulon Rouge,
rock out some Christine Aguilera.
or uh seline dion so pretty much anything that runs the gambit i can listen to uh just depends on the mood
i'm in if i want to do a little dance party or something like that what's your current PR song um
that that also changes depending on the mood but i have PR to my heart will go on
i have PR to uh moulon rouge so those are they're stand-up relevant have you heard also uh
and i will always love you winnie houston when that beat drops yeah that that
That's a hell of a time to deadlift.
Yeah.
Now there's a version.
I saw...
I don't know if you guys know who Puddles the Clown is.
Puddles a Muck?
Okay.
So Puddles of the Clown.
He opened for Weird Al when I saw him.
He's been on America's Got Talent.
He did a version, weirdly, of My Heart Will Go On,
set to Metallica.
And it synced up fucking perfectly.
So if you can find that anywhere in your life, I encourage you to listen to that.
There's also been a bunch of new AI songs that have come out there, like the rock versions of different music, they're a good go-to.
So anything from NSYNC or Backstreet Boys, there's a rock version of that.
Those are on fire right now.
That was on here as well, listening to boy bands while training.
I won't do that one.
Uh, unpaid or underrated tomatoes.
Oh, those are terrible.
Um, definitely unpaid.
Anything tomato.
Even heirloom tomatoes?
You don't like those?
Tomatoes are just gross in general.
I love ketchup.
I love barbecue sauce.
Marinera.
Any kind of sauce with a tomato?
Great.
Tomatoes himself, fucking disgusting.
Why?
There's not, wait, am I stupid?
Is there ketchup?
Sorry, is there tomatoes and fucking barbecue?
Is there ketchup?
Is there tomatoes and ketchup?
He referenced barbecue sauce and tomatoes.
Is that a thing?
Are there tomatoes in barbecue sauce?
No.
I didn't think so.
Maybe.
Don't they have tomato paste?
I don't fucking know.
I'm not asking sincerely.
I'm not trying to mock you.
Like,
that's why I'm going to be stupid.
Like,
I don't know.
We're not big barbecue sauce over here.
I don't know.
Is Brad here?
He'll tell us.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Is Gary here?
With tomato are fine.
That's who I meant the same person.
Miss Chris.
Gary's out.
Brad is actually.
No, that is.
that Brad is Gary.
That's twice you fucking get.
Damn it!
You don't know who.
I actually had to,
I had to open up the guest list to see who is.
I did too to see who it was.
There he is.
Yeah.
So yes,
there is tomatoes in barbecue sauce.
There you go.
Our fact checker is here.
Thank you so much.
Big Gary.
Tomato paste or sauce.
Okay.
Forms the backbone of the sauce.
Okay.
You were big,
big Brian.
I take back my,
I wasn't,
I wasn't trying to insult you.
I literally said,
am I stupid?
because I don't, I wouldn't think of,
because barbecue sauce is so tangy.
I wouldn't think of tomato.
I would never think of a tomato when I ate barbecue.
Now I'm going to have a completely different outlook
when I eat barbecue sauce.
It's going to add it to his macros.
There's tomatoes in this.
It's like we have a secondary on-air producer.
That's what I fucking love about Big Gary being on here
the whole time is that like we can just,
it's like the Joe Rogan thing.
I've said it before.
Like, you just check, just don't pull this up for us.
Pull this up for us.
And then I have one last one.
Please feel free to tell me to fuck off on this one.
Unpaid or underrated, recovering from a stroke.
Let's go with underrated on that one.
So I had a stroke in May of 2020.
So with everything going on, that was super fine.
Legitimately.
Yeah.
So luckily.
Well, so we'll go back a little bit for this story.
I woke up with what I thought was a pinched nerve.
So I had a really bad headache, and things just felt a little off.
Went the whole entire day, just, you know, I'd stumble through the house, things like that,
just thinking it was a bad pinched nerve, waited until the next day, and my face started drooping.
I stopped feeling in my right hand before I finally went through the doctor.
luckily they were able to give me all the stuff they needed to help to reverse a lot of the
side effects so I don't have as much of a face group or anything like that didn't have any speech
issues or walking issues after you know the treatment but uh they told me that I was not allowed
to lift anything over 10 pounds including my children and that that's my brother to me because
I had a one year old at the time yeah and uh about a week after I got out of the hospital I
started just walking up and down my driveway doing body weight pushups at an incline because
I couldn't even do 10 of those, just started training right away because that wasn't going
to work. And after about three months, they released me, said everything was good to go and
competed in a strong man competition that September. So it was a just, I wanted to get back
to where I was, but it was pretty much just say, if you feel like something is off, don't be
a dumb ass and try to tough it out go go to the doctor it's fair thank you for that thank you for
not again telling me not to fuck off i saved that one on purpose um because that's that's huge
uh and knowing that you know your kids are the reason to push that that next no i'm going to do
that uh that that means a lot man thank you no no problem i have no problem talking about that because
i mean it's one of the things where you're like you're 35 years old you don't think you're going to have a
stroke and then you have a stroke. So yeah, you can always always recovery to push hard enough.
So we have this game we like to play. Yeah, I know, right? I saved it for the last because I am a dick.
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And do you have anything else?
You had some questions for us, right?
I do.
Let's hit, we're into that segment.
All right.
So if there was ever a biographical movie made about the life and times of Joey and Keith,
what actors would play you?
And if you need to pick different actors for different periods of your life,
you can do that.
But who would you pick as your actors?
I'd have to go, I don't know.
As a kid, I was always told it looked like Adam Sandler.
I don't know how much it looked like that now because it's like
It was back when I had, like, I actually grew my hair out, and I had a little, like, really curly-ish hair like him, kind of, so I think I'd have to go Adam Sandler.
I don't know that I've necessarily looked like him, but I've been told that a lot throughout my life, and I don't know, he's a little bit of a wise ass.
I consider myself funny, adjacent.
As far as thinking of, like, younger, I don't know any, like, younger act.
I couldn't name an actor under 30, or probably, so I couldn't, like, say, this will play my teenage, Keith.
Maybe, I could probably think of an older person, but I don't know.
I think Sandler could play a solid 30-year span of my life.
There's a tough question, though.
If I didn't, like, have that as a kid, like, being told that I wouldn't know, like, who I look like.
Other than that guy from that, uh, Western movie that I got tagged in a couple times,
that gets shot as, like, a background extra, and, like, a, there's a, was it, it was a,
there's a Clint Eastwood movie or something where a guy just gets shot for, like,
half a second.
It's, like, exactly looks just fucking like me, and it's creepy as shit.
So that guy, I guess, if Adam Sandler's busy.
I would say for my early years, up until I was about, let's go, one of my 41 now, until about 32, Ezra Miller, because I was a piece of shit, and then had a bit of a self-reflection time where I tried to learn to be a better person, started growing a beard, and just trying to be a safer place as a man.
for the people around me.
God, who would play that guy?
It would probably be Tom Hanks.
If I'm going to be honest with you,
because he played Mr. Rogers,
and there was a point in my life,
there still is a point right now
where I will look a man straight in the face
and go, Mr. Rogers is not proud of you.
And I, to me, that is a,
that is a slap in the face to somebody R.H.
Oh, yeah.
Mr. Rogers would not be proud of you for those actions.
And so I would have to say, yeah, maybe Tom Hanks,
if he could pull off being short and ugly with a long beard.
Maybe Hugh Jackman, because they just, like, made him.
Maybe, but, yeah, that might be too much insight into my life.
I don't know if we'll cut that part
but uh
you're good man
but yeah
vulnerable has been not a bad thing
there's there's uh
there is that aspect where there's
two very different versions of me
and my wife was fortunate enough
to see that both versions of me grow
from the one I was
to the man I wanted to become
she's probably the reason for a lot of that too
I'd imagine
very much the same
no no no
I had to
I had to
become a man worthy of love
in order to meet her
and I did
and it took a lot of work
a lot of self-reflection
and a lot of mistakes
and a lot of hurt people
including myself
so yeah
I would say at the end of my life
it's probably going to be Tom Hanks
now we have a game we want to play
my wife
many waza
a very cocky asshole too. So thank you. Thank you because like it's it's all of us right.
Like we're raised we're raised as men to be that way because we think that's the way we got to be.
This is the bravado. This is the this is the man. And then suddenly you're just like it's not
working. I'm unhappy. I'm still not doing the things I think should work. And then you suddenly
self-reflect and go, well, what if this works? What if I just stop being?
that guy and become a better person.
And yeah.
I'm still an asshole, but...
Well, me too. But God,
it's...
Me and Joey comes out.
My new job,
me and Joey comes out a little
more often than he should.
And it's just...
Two of my coworkers
have now learned to watch my facial expressions
that happened today
where somebody just said something
that I found so offensive
that I, like,
like went stone faced and my one co-worker looked it pointed and went I can see it you're
holding back and I was like I am I absolutely am because I just wanted to rip this dude apart
for saying something so utterly offensive that like again I'm not like I'm not easily offended
but my response was to say something mean to him because of the offensive thing he said
instead I took a bite of my sandwich and kept alone my lunch
there you go big run I got a quick question for you so you said that you're
you know you get this long running group of buddies and I'm sure there's some
you know it's a fair amount of ball busting in there right
oh yeah okay so like do your buddies legit say like don't stroke out
dude or anything like that like do they do they play on the stroke at all
no I'm serious like I I bet they do I bet the couple of them do
oh yeah uh there there's usually jokes like that and all of us have had something go on that we usually
play a joke on but you know when we get together it's always how's everything going how's your
hell so it's more well together but then it's still being assholes to each other yeah i just
hanging out with the strongman crew at some of the more vulgar interactions i've had so i could
kind of like uh i could see some of your buddies kind of after years after it's ever you know
obviously once your health is on the up and up
them kind of just pulling that out of their pocket every now and then just
because I see it firsthand like like like friends that have pretty serious health
issues and it's a topic of the poking but like not in a fucked I mean I got
from the outside view it probably is a fucked up way I don't usually partake in it too
much but sometimes but I don't know people are dudes are just assholes so it's all good
fun yep yeah if I did if I hated you I wouldn't make fun of you like that's kind of
like in my mind's like like if I've truly hated you I'd fucking just ignore you as a human
like I wouldn't interact with you.
Yeah, that stone cold silence, that face I have now learned where like somebody
says something to me and I just stare at them.
Again, the guys at my work go, oh, that's it.
That's the one.
Don't get that face from him.
Yeah.
I get that.
What else you got for us?
Big Ryan.
All right.
So if you're talking to someone about power lifting or lifting in general and they say
they don't squat because their knees hurt, but they leg press.
and they'll, you know, say six, seven, eight hundred pounds, what is the proper response?
Oh, no.
Honestly, like, if people tell me that, they're not people that I'm close enough friends with to get away with saying what I would really want to say, probably.
Because I think I had a coworker tell me that.
And I'm like, this dude hasn't lifted since he was in high school and he wanted to tell me about how he started his high school football team and leg pressed 800 pounds.
I was like, I, okay, like, what you did and what I do is not the same.
I don't like like I'm good so I don't know that I've had someone that's either like a genuine lifter or someone that I would consider like someone in my circle that would ever tell me that so I don't know what I would say like I don't know at anyone that would actually say that genuinely unless it was like some like 60 year old dude and it was just like you know but then it's like well that's awesome like if that's all you can do okay well like because there's that that's the double edge sort of that is like are they just being pussies or do they literally can't squit.
squat like like i i mean i don't know i'm sure some people can't squat because they don't understand
that you could like do variations of it with safety squat bars and box squats and whatever sure
you want to go to the gym and do a leg press because that's easy you're doing something so that's
better than nothing so i'd probably just tell them that's awesome dude and in my heart i would just
still judge them for not squatting but you know it's a case-by-case scenario and i guess their
physical capability yep uh in an exact opposite of response of everything i just said
Somebody at my old work once turned to me and said,
how much do you leg press?
And I went, I don't leg press.
I'm not a bitch.
There it is.
Yeah.
I squat like a fucking normal person.
So when I did leg press, it was double or triple my squat,
but it doesn't do anything for what I'm trying to do.
If it's somebody that just like wants to tell me, like,
oh, I go to the gym too, and I'm like, oh, yeah, tell me what, tell me about that.
And they're like, oh, I like, press 600 pounds.
If I'm not, like, close to that person or I don't care, I go, hey, that's awesome, man.
And then I go, have you tried squatting, though?
Oh, I can't because of my knees.
I can't because of this.
Or I can't because of that.
I just go, oh, okay.
Why don't we work out together one day?
Maybe I think I can help you with that.
And that's it.
That's all that.
And naturally, they're going to go, oh, no, no, no, no, I don't want to.
Because they choose not to squat.
They can't not squat.
They choose not to.
So, yeah.
I did love you to, like, press to do, like, uh, like calf extensions.
Yeah.
Or like calf presses because I would, I was like with my, like, previously multiple
broken ankle, like, getting that way to, like, load my ankle that manner and to get
that stretch on it.
Like, I could, I can envision that right now and like the, the blissful feeling of that,
like, that stretch that I can't really replicate on any other way other than like,
just putting, like, just don't it on a leg extension.
But I also...
Like, let's not pretend the leg press is useless.
Oh, it does.
I mean, that's a good processor.
Because I, when I wanted a quad pump or a calf pump, I would do the, the leg curl,
or I would do the leg press.
But that was before, I was like, no, I just want to be strong and squat a bunch, right?
So if you're...
I never even count the weight.
Like, it's just whatever, whatever gets you a...
Whatever was hard.
Like, yeah, I wouldn't...
Yeah, if you're...
It's this much weight.
If your goal is to...
actually genuinely work the muscles to be a strong person standing up out of your chair or getting
up off the floor or any of those actual functional things, you need to squat. The leg press isn't
going to do that for you. But if you are genuinely just, I want my quads to look really big after
I have a workout and take El Citraline or whatever it is, yeah, the leg press has its place.
But again, I don't, the new me does not shame people.
yeah just do like that's the one thing like out here is like you know you say do squat and they're
like oh i can't do squats because my knees hurt but i can do you know this amount on a leg press for
one or two and it's like is that really the best cue of strength there yeah but are you
are you really protecting your knees by doing that like could you just lower the weight
and do some squats and like maybe you know work the actual muscle
you need. But again, like I said, those people choose not to squat. I just don't think I've ever
in my like lifting my the last 12 years of lifting. I think I've ever had anyone actually
tell me that they like wanted to even talk about like press the only people. I have like two
or three instances in my mind where it's people that like I just knew at work or casually
or like family people that would talk about it. But like they weren't power lifter strong
man like Jim Ratz. So it was just I don't know if if one of my good buddies wanted to start
talking about it, I would mock them and ridicule them
excessively, though.
But you get those, it's the casuals, right?
Like, I used to talk about the two gyms I went to.
I went to, before I started my gym, went to the old man gym, I called it.
And it was, that was the circuit machine.
There was a guy and he had his gloves on and his weightlifting belt and he would go
through every machine and you'd work in with him because he was a nice enough guy.
And, but like, he would just like, leg press as much as he could.
but like I'm trying to squat
and you'd be like
dude just squat with me
like I'll lower the weights
I'll take off some of the plates
you can do this too
I'm 85
you could do this too
right like
this is the one that's actually gonna help
but they're not there for that
they're there for the pump
I think Ryan
has just asked us this because he just recently
got a leg
a leg press and I think his kids must be making
fun of them for it probably
fun
but i want to i would love a hack squad let's not let's not pretend you know actually i would
love a pendulum squad i would that at los campionis as everybody's going to make fun of me for saying it
los campionis whatever yeah um we get canceled i had never at one plate had a pump as much as i did
from that one pendulum squat
and then I was like
this is the best feeling
right I think there's a bodybuilder
somewhere inside me
that wants to come out
but I don't want to count macros
because that sounds like
way too much pain, too much work
so
that's my
youngest when he went back to school
after he did his power lifting competition
a bunch of his buddies knew it
so they were all hyped up for him
and he came home a little frustrated
Because one of his friends was like, oh, yeah, I can, I can squat, you know, I can do a whole bunch more weight with this.
I can bench, press more.
And you know, so I told him, your best bet is just look at my face and go, uh-huh, that's great.
That's the best answer you can give them.
Yeah, don't, don't engage because they want you to, like, just be all excited for them.
It's just like, just dig.
Anytime you want to come over, I would love to help you do that.
Yep, one guy at my work, same thing.
He was like, oh, I went to the gym the other day, and I put,
how much is it when you put 3.45s on the bar?
And I'm like, that's 315.
He's like, yeah, I just did 10 of those for as many reps as I,
or as many sets as I could.
And I'm like, no, you didn't.
Like, I'm sorry, on squats.
I'm like, no, you didn't.
And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, I think I did like six reps until I couldn't do anymore.
And I was like, no, you didn't.
Like, I don't believe you at this rate.
That's 315.
for 10 reps and you're telling me you did 60 reps like no you didn't but what i said was oh awesome man
anytime you want to come over i've got a gym in my house i'd love to work out with you right like
that's that's good call all right joey this one's for you hit me fmk dudley boys edging christian
hearty boys god i had my error with
Both.
We're going to F the Hardee's.
Well, Matt's...
Well, I'm not even going to include...
Matt and Jeff?
Is that what they're in front of?
I haven't said those names
probably in 20 years.
Because at the time, like I said, I was a goth kid
that's already come up once on here.
So, like, that was my jam, my job.
So...
Big, big Lita fan.
We're going to F with those
because that high-flying, crazy attitude
was...
top tier um i've been an edge fan since edge debuted and i was actually at the event where
christian debuted in hamilton so i'm going to probably marry edge and christian because there is no
better thing than the five second pose um unfortunately i have to kill the greatest tag team
of all time
which is the Dudley boys
who I have been following since the ECW days
Bubba Ray and what'll tell the other guys
Devon
Now the thing about them is
Now the thing about them is like
There's never been a more
heated tag team than them
They used to get followed out of the building
and like bottles thrown at them
because Bubba Ray Dudley is one of the most offensive men you have ever seen.
So back in the ECW days, he was so mean and so chirpy,
but he wasn't even one of the original Dudleys.
The Dudleys existed before those guys.
And then they joined, and then the rest of them fell off,
and then they became the Dudleys because it was this whole like inbred family
from wherever they were from family thing.
So unfortunately, I have to.
to kill the Dudley's as much as I don't want to
because they really are the best
but like personally
I followed Edgen Christian and the Hardee's
a little more
It was a fair FMK
considering what we gave him earlier
yeah and considering that like I still say delete
like the Matt Hardy of the future
is almost better
than the Matt Hardy from the Hardy boys
you got the
Delete, delete, delete, that guy.
Like, he became awesome.
Then he joined Bray Wyatt, the deleter of Worlds,
which you know I was a fan of.
I had the shirt somewhere.
Heath.
Yes, sir.
Another FMK.
The color orange, a safety squad bar,
and knowing the weights at a strong man competition.
Got him.
I think I'd...
It's so mean.
I'm gonna go kill.
the SSB solely because I can
solely because I can do a Mars bar
now.
Yeah, I guess I'll have to
I'll fuck knowing the weights of a competition
knowing the strong man weights.
You could interpret that either way.
Like that's like, I mean, no, that's like I need to know
so I can train for it because I'm just
get strong. I'm like, no, I need to go
into it with some vague idea that I'm not just going to zero
because if I'm going to fucking zero and it's not going to go and that's
stupid. So I want to know what my weights
are, at least on
like three quarter of the events.
It's like unsafe to not.
And then, yeah, I guess I'll marry Orange.
I'll take that home every day.
If I got to embrace the Orange.
Keith.
Fair enough.
Keith, genuine question.
You got a strong man competition that has all your favorite event.
But you know you're going to zero.
Yeah, no.
Let's not even say zero.
You know you're going to become last place.
Not even zero.
I already come in last place at every competition I do for the most part.
No, if you can't go out and at least do, like,
a rep or finish or get like feet if it's a measurable thing it's not until you've done a strong man
show you don't have as much you can't like because you'd have to do novice or lightweight and then
you're like oh i can't do these weights but i want to be a strong man but i can't it's really
fucking hard like it sucks it is so that's why i'm glad that there are like if you have an
opportunity to compete and they actually have a master's class that's pretty lighter like like
jake's doing and like a lot of my local shows are doing or like dan and sarah
used to doing an intermediate class now too, which is like more than novice, but less than open.
So it's just, it's cool when me directors understand that like, yo, not everyone doing strong
man can fucking like deadlift 600 pounds and squat 500 pounds and bench press 300 pounds.
Like, there's dudes that are out there like they can barely over, you know, they can
overhead press 200 pounds.
And that's like the bottom end of what you have to do to do a lot of these shows.
Like I'm, I'm at like the bottom end strength of what I have to do to like be able to
still do strong men.
And I'm glad that I'm at least at that level because if I was any weaker, like I literally
couldn't compete in the sport that I've found enjoyment of the last two years.
And that's what I, that's all I was going to ask was like, are the events the fun thing
for you or is the competition placing the fun thing for you?
No, I don't care what I'm going to, like, I don't want to like, I don't, I'm not going to win.
Like, I won my competition last week because I, fucking the other guy didn't compete.
But like, I, you know, it's, it's, to me, it's not, like, I don't care.
I care if I can, if I, I, I want to be able to do the, at least three-quarter
the events. I don't care if I'm last in every one of them.
Like if it's a deadlift for reps and I get one rep and the other guy got 10, that one rep was
still probably a PR for me and that's fucking awesome.
Like the other day, like I did a double at 450 on the axle and I was fucking amazing
because that was like a 20 pound PR and I doubled it.
If the other guy was competing, he probably would have done it for 10 because like I, before he,
like he, the guy was supposed to be in my class and buddies with him, like he tweaked
his bicep or something so he could only do a couple of the events so he just didn't do
do the competition. But I know he still could have deadlifted like that weight.
for like a dozen reps,
but I wouldn't have cared
because I still PR'd.
So I don't really care
who I compete against.
Like there's like eight people
in the master's class.
There's a 90% chance.
I'm gonna finish last
in like every event
and I'm cool with that
as long as I don't zero anything
or only zero one event.
Like I'm fine about that.
Like I don't care how I stack up
against other people
because I'm not doing this for them.
I'm doing it for me.
I just want to be able to do the lifts.
So just a quick question
because you said,
until you compete,
you don't know.
Let's just say I,
I decide to join a competition
and I zero every event.
Did I still compete?
Yeah.
Okay.
But I don't,
but you don't care,
I don't think as much as I would.
Like,
you'd be like,
oh,
I tried,
I did it,
but I would like be annoyed
because I,
I don't know,
I want to still do well,
but I want to do well for me,
not necessarily like,
like,
you know what I mean?
Like,
I don't know.
I'm just asking
because I do,
I do want to do a strong man at some point.
That's fun.
But I'm also the weakest I have ever been.
And that's the hard part with Strongman.
It's only scalable to a certain point.
Like if you can't do the novice weights and Strongman, like, either the one good thing about it is at least a lot of the shows have a rising bar in some of the events.
So like, but then it's like, are you going to pay 100 bucks to go do like one lift or, you know what I mean?
it's strong man's awesome but you have to do your research you have to like not everyone like scans
just wants to be like oh just be naturally strong i'm like well not everyone's naturally strong dude
and like maybe they're naturally strong for them like they're happy they're stronger than everyone
they work with but they still might not be able to do like the novice weights at a local strongman
show like that doesn't mean that they don't get deserve to like still do the sport even if
it's just training at home like i fucking strong man's awesome like i love strong man i love people
doing strongman lifts but competing is its own thing like it's own like it's hard sometimes
if you don't have a certain strength level
like I said like I'm lucky that I'm like just very
barely at it. That's why I did novice for so long because like
I fucking I'm I'm 100 pounds overweight literally
and I can't fucking do my open class ever. So like
I have to do novice but now I'm going to master's so I'm lucky enough
that the local competitions of master's weights are
not out of my reach. The one I was looking at
it had a hydrant lift and the hydrant
200 plus pounds. Yeah and like
okay, but like I have to do the same weight as a guy that weighs 250 pounds more than me.
Yeah, not everything is scalable.
Like I wasn't, that's part of the reason I was very hesitant to show up.
Like that, that hydrant weighs more than me by almost double.
I'm not amped about showing up for that, but at the same time, like I don't, I don't want to never compete.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
So novice lift hard, hard, live easy.
You'd probably be able to hit most of those.
I'm not saying you have to come out.
Yeah, but I also have to fly across the continent to do it.
Like every strong,
that's what I'm getting at is like every strong man promoter
has a completely different way of looking at it.
The guys that are like really strong and don't really give a fuck about novice and like
lightweights, like they're going to be probably too heavy for a lot of people.
And then that works for the people that are fucking like really strong and total 14,500 pounds and can transition to strong man.
But there's a lot of dudes that total like 1,000 to 1,200 pounds that like would barely be able to do.
novice weights and maybe not do novice weights in strongman so it's it's not as easy as a transition
as a lot of the old timers want to preach to as it is so that's why i probably probably did novice
for fucking two years because i had no other choice because it was either do novice or not
compete in strongman and i've had the itch and the bug so i'd love to see you do a stro
i can send me links to stuff and i can tell you what would work and wouldn't work for you
and then it's a matter of like do you want to drive three hours do you want to do something
local you don't have somebody like i'm spoiled that i could do like 12 different strong man shows and
only drive a fucking two hours and like compete all year but i'm just going to do the ones 10 minutes
away and the ones in south dakota yeah there's only about two around me and one of those was
the hydrant lift that i was just like i don't think i want to do a hydrant lift because it sounds
like like it's not a scalable hydrant you don't have a 100 150 175 200 250 pound hydrant you
have one hydrant and I'm now
competing against all the guys that can
do that. But if that's, was that
one of, like, what were the other three or four
events? Like, were they scale?
Like, were they scalable to something you think you can do?
I'll double check on that.
Because the dude's a barefoot affiliate, so
like I can just message him if I have to.
So. Okay.
Because, I mean, don't be afraid to not. I mean, there's
people that aren't going to do the tire flip
in South Dakota. And they're just,
there's things people just won't do in competition.
Like, I didn't do the, the sled fucking,
thing and I got shit for that but I don't care I put my safety upon you know first on that one
so I don't know and it's it's really it's you against yourself as much as people want to say
they're like I mean they want to compete and win and everything it's like I don't know strong
man for me it's I don't care if I come in last in every competition I ever do it's it's just
fun as long as I don't zero and everything I've competed at a show where I zeroed four
of the five and the only reason I got the one point was because it was a rising bar dead
lift. I took that. But it was a not a higher level show, but I knew there were some pretty
good middleweight guys there just to see how I stack up and I did not stack up. Yeah. That's so you,
you get exactly what we're talking about. It's, it's, uh, you know, you've done different shows with
different directors probably and you're like, oh, this one's a little more accurate to what a 40-year-old
dude like me should be able to lift. Yeah. I was glad I did it just to see, you know, I know these
guys are going to be well two
them are pro that I end up they were
pro at the time but uh just see
where I was competing at and yeah they were
way way stronger than I am so
so cool just lift rocks
let's just all just go out in the woods
lift rocks I have fucking
Jake keeps uh I every time he
does post anything rock related I think like I know me
personally and I'm sure several other people like just like
sending rocks like in Instagram like because that's the mystery event
um I personally
I personally think it's going to be some kind of stone to shoulder, like a natural stone to shoulder.
He's already said it won't be, but like he's probably told every person that's made it guess, it won't be that.
So like it is what it is.
But yeah, I feel like the longer I'm into it, the less stressed I'm about it too.
Like me a year ago would have been like, oh my God, what's this mystery event?
Now I'm like, I don't care.
Like I know I can pick up a natural stone.
I know I can pick up an Atlas stone.
I can lap them.
I can chest them.
I can go over.
Like I can do some.
I've got a little bit of experience with everything stone related because I'm lucky to have this gym that I go to.
and I've done a little bit of everything.
So, like, whatever.
What's the heaviest natural stone you lifted?
Not very.
I don't know.
Under 200 pounds, probably.
I don't know.
Natural stones are a different, different problem.
I don't know.
I mean, definitely under 200, but I, I, I, I know I've carried one.
It's not that.
But it's all, it's all a matter of the, like, you could, you could carry one stone that's
200 pounds and shaped a certain way, but you might not be able to carry a stone that's
160 pounds, shaped another way, probably.
So it's like, it's so.
It's so subjective of how much a rock, you know, but they're fun.
That is all I have.
Well, that went on forever.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
I like sure.
That was good.
I didn't want to come across.
I wasn't trying to attack you for not doing a show, but I just, you know, I,
strong man is, it's worth doing.
But it's also, it's hard to, it's hard to find where you can fit in it.
I think it also took me three years to do my first power lift.
competition, right? Because I just wasn't sure. And I'm definitely not doing it at 143 pounds.
Yeah, you're joking about counting macros. Like, you probably should start counting macros to try
to get back up to 160. You've got to start getting your 150 grams of protein and like 300 carbs or
something. Oh, that's on the table. Get back up. Once I dropped down to 155, I was like, this is a problem.
And my wife started hard boiling eggs to send a work with me just so I could eat eggs throughout.
the day to get through.
Yeah, at least get back to 160.
I don't know how you're still eating eggs after Saturday.
Well, yeah, those were different eggs.
I think it was the mayonnaise that did me in on that one.
And that was the, it was the funny thing.
She woke up Sunday.
Five-day-old deviled eggs, man.
Yeah.
Well, here's the thing about deviled eggs, man.
They're the best.
Well, yeah, but, like, how's your asshole feel after that?
That's got to hurt.
Asshole was fine.
Okay.
The rest of my body was not.
But, no, she woke up.
up and she goes, so you need to eat. And I'm like, I'm like sitting on the, like, imagine like
the cryptkeeper just like sitting frail and sad. And she's like, I could see you. I want to make
you a toad in the hole, but I'm a, I think you might be afraid of eggs. And I was like, give me
protein. And she was like, okay, okay. So we had some, some toad in the hole, which is, do you know,
You know what the total in the hole is?
Is that a piece of bread with an egg in it or something?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then, like, aside of avocado, I was just, like, all the protein you can give me, please.
I had the best omelet a couple weeks ago.
It was a, it was a chicken omelet, which I've had, I've had chicken omelets before.
So instead of, like, you know, it's chicken.
But then it had, like, huge chunks of avocado on top of it, too.
I'm, like, outside of, like, the shit ton of butter they had on it.
It was a very healthy omelet.
It was very impressed with it.
I used to hate avocado with a damn passion.
It just tastes.
tasted like mucus to me and then I read the nutrients and then I was like oh they're so good for you
how can you how can you turn down an avocado knowing how good it is for you you ever had a farmer's
omelet do you guys have those down there in the States I think that's just like a loaded one like a
meat lovers isn't it or what are you talking about yeah it's like it's like they do bacon sausage
onions all the peppers and cheese yeah damn there's only three places around me that make
those.
Quick, very, very quick story.
And then we'll probably wrap this up.
So I know, Ryan looks forward.
Sorry, Ryan.
We were talking about avocados and it's, we're talking about avocados and it was seasonal.
So my wife, we've had the same, we've had the same cut cut, cutlery for literally
since she was in high, like our entire life, we've, she sold Cutco in high school or
like for freshman year or college or something.
So like she always had the, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the pyramid scheme.
So she had to buy her own shit.
So we've had that kit in our kitchen for our entire life together.
And there was like one, like her favorite knife that she uses for everything.
And she literally had it for 20 plus years.
And like six months ago, she told me she, you know, she accused me of losing it.
She accused us of, you know, you know, basically throwing it away accidentally at home.
And then like a couple weeks later she finally remembered it was like, oh no, I took the knife to work to cut up an avocado and I must have thrown it away at work.
So she threw away like our one really good knife for that particular thing.
so and I was like okay cool so in my mind was like I'm gonna buy her that for Christmas as a replacement gift and it's gonna be the best present ever and sure enough she was she laughed and she was very happy and uh it was like a hundred dollar knife so it was kind of a big part of her Christmas or whatever but uh I was just funny little story that we basically replaced it with the identical knife I didn't find something close like the exact same like thing uh the same color bone handle and everything so and we we kept the sheath or scabbard according to Tanner um that kid that the knife came in because the new one
didn't have a sheath, so we still have the exact same sheath that it came in 20 some years
ago. So funny full circle there about avocados. And with that, Big Ryan, where we're going to
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