Unpaid And Underrated - 140 : A Horse A Part (ft. Big Jonathan)

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Jonathan. They dive right into great topics like making gym equipment, family, Keith's strongman show, archery, and welding. Links Ü&Ü Hoodie (https://www.sellmytees.com/festrengthlab/store/product/u-u) Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @boandme (https://www.instagram.com/boandme/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Jonathan.

Welcome, everybody, to episode 1124 of the unpaid and underrated podcast. A podcast for crew, by crew, attended by crew, mocked by crew, and I guess listened to by crew sometimes. I am one of your hosts, Big Joey. I am joined, as always, by Big Keith. Howdy, howdy, howdy? And we have Big Jonathan over there. How are you doing?

Good. How are you guys? Wonderful. Wonderful. Living the dream. Yes, sir. Okay. Let's dive right in.

Anybody got any drinks they want to talk about? Just a run-of-the-mill waterloo in the strong and silly pint. Now, someone, I will elaborate a little bit. Someone in the Discord, I think, had posted the picture of the purple strong and silly pint and made a bit about it being like a pool noodle or something. And I made the comment of like, no fucking pool noodle has the grip like this fucking yes. Yeah, I did enjoy that.

That was good. I've got a liquid death, squeezed to death, actually. in a coozy that Big David made. Will you leave? A flavor one more time? Squeeze to death. What's the essence or the sense? We like to shit on, uh, oh, okay.

I could maybe try that. I got to, I want to shit on that. No, well, they fucking have sucked. Like every goddamn flavored liquid death I've had, except the natural, like the unflavored one has just been too tart and sugary. It's like, if I wanted that, I would just drink fucking, like, high sea. he wanted to shit on it until he found out it had a little glaze on it.

Yeah. The orange is intriguing. That's in the David Hunter made orange Keith Hed Coozy. That's a good one. Yeah, I don't have anything, but I do have a drink spot or chill, which I probably should have got a second one when I did my last order, which isn't here, by the way. No? No, I ordered from the December 19th drop. It's still not here.

I don't remember. We'll get into their last week's episode on that. at some point, but like, I think it was the most recent episode. I can't, was this one where they talked about their statistics and stuff of what they're best performing. Yeah. The fact that drink spotter chill being like their second or third most sold item was pretty impressive.

Yeah, this thing's incredible. Did you see my picture the other day? Like it goes in the back of my phone. Yeah. I wouldn't know. Sorry. Didn't mean to step on your dick there. I, uh, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have, uh, expected that drink spotter chill.

you know, just off the cuff, but the more you think about it, it kind of makes sense that that was one of the higher sellers. Units sold, not like profit margin rate. So it's like a $9 or an level. Exactly. I don't did,

it's funny because they're constantly tweaking their shirt prices, I feel. And I think currently there, maybe it was just our shirt, but it was like 31 or 30, whatever it was like dot 69. And I was just like, I've never seen that before.

So I don't know if it was a new thing. I don't know if across the board. They were all dot 16. instead of dot 99, but I did chuckle when I saw that. Yeah. I have my podcast shirt on the red one. I think this is a five-year anniversary or seven-year anniversary?

Seven-year anniversary, which is wild. That's three years old now. That was right before we got in the podcast. It's saying in the back. You could have to stand up. You can't see it. You got to stand up, but you're just showing me your neck. It doesn't say anything.

It's just an M. Oh. I think it says it on the shirt, but I'm 99.9. 99.7% sure. The seven years. Seven years, yeah. Yep. Called it.

I am wearing the year, the 2023, Lyft Hard Levisi one t-shirt in honor of registration opening today and probably selling out as of today, quote unquote, like seven days ago. It sold out. Yeah. Last I checked, I think there was 91 spots sold. Ninety-two, I think. I just looked a minute ago.

Yeah, it was 98 spots left. So hopefully by the time this airs, Larry got signed up. because he's not on the roster yet. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that would be problematic. I'm wearing the Massenomics gray hoodie. One could maybe call it a coat even. You got something keeping your head warm, too, it looks like.

Oh, yeah, the new hat. I kind of regret not getting that hat just due to the pure pressure, but I also just... Yeah, the new one. But I also just don't like that style of hat. Yeah. Yeah, they're not usually my... favorite, but I do like this one. And I do, it's my good hat, I guess you could say.

So you're going out hat. It's my Sunday go to meet and hat. Yeah. It's funny. I don't know what it's like something my algorithm's been showing me, a bunch of construction stuff. And it's like, my, you know, my wife's afraid I'm out cheat in order or this, that and the other. And she's like, I'm just afraid she finds out that I'm wearing my good pants to work today. Like, you know, he's like digging a ditch or something. Yeah. I got to have a lot of stuff that are eccentric to me, so I'll try to just hit them quick. At least some of them, then we can sprinkle in some other stuff. I lost $500 of the DMV essentially last week.

It was horrible and I was so depressed. So Garage Gym Experiment was doing a giveaway where if you were listening to their, they do a live podcast every Tuesday. And I happened to be, maybe it was Tuesday? Yeah, no, it was still on vacation, so I was off. And I listened to it quite often. If I don't listen to it live, I listen to it on playback. and I happened to be tuned in that morning, but I was out running some errands.

I just had an AirPod in, and the gist was at the end of the episode, they were going to, you know, draw the name of someone that had been there, and then you have a minute to respond, like in live chat or you don't win. And I was either the first or second person that got drawn, and I ended up being at the DMV,

and it was right when they were getting ready to draw, the lady called me up to the desk. And so I just, you know, I didn't have it in me to leave a fucking airport in and started talking. to someone while I'm trying to get my license, uh, you know, renewed. So it was just like, and by the time I got done at the table and went back, they were already, it was already over. And then like I saw in DMs like five minutes later that I had fucking missed my chance.

So it was a $500 gift card to anyone that was going to be at home gym gone. So I could have actually used it for $500 at Massanomics or anything else that was at home gym con. So that was a, that was a, that was a, that was a, that was a, that was a, I haven't had a a whole bunch of extra money coming in. So there hasn't been a significant amount of gym funds that There's been new money coming in to go out. So missing out of $500 because I was in a fucking DMV. Very, very, very, very, very, very shitty. I can appreciate how much that sucks for you.

But at the same time, that was a story about how nothing happened. Like, that is that, yeah, ultimately that story has no ending. It was a story about how nothing happened. Yeah, I've got a lot of jokes around that kind of thing. I got real chirpy recently. Right? Yeah, that was fucking rude, you cock-sucker. Remember how we talked about.

Now that I'm not customer-facing, I'm worried when you get mean. I got so chirpy. And that all that came out there a little bit. But no, that also does suck. Sorry, dude. But I think you made the right decision. Like, it was license or gift card. And I'm pretty sure, you know, you need your license to do everything.

I didn't want to be rude. Like, like, ideal. I didn't want to be the, like, because put me. They call your name up and you're like, one second. Hang on the second. Because, like, I, you know, I had to make an online appointment like two months ago to go here to get my license because I was getting like a, the enhanced license or the whichever one makes it to where I can go to Canada, Mexico, all over the country. Oh, yeah, you can't miss that appointment. Yeah, because I don't want to deal with carrying, I've been traveling my passport the past couple years.

It's fucking terrifying to lose that as I'm just like randomly going to Sioux Falls. Yeah, no, no, yeah. That would be funny. Then they call your name and you're like, one second, I'm on the phone. They'd be like, sure, buddy, next. See you in two months. But that's the thing. It literally was like, if I was 90 seconds in either direction, you know, I would have

like had enough time to just because I even had the chat queued up with like ready to say something just in case. And then it was just like as soon as they heard my name or like as soon as it was my turn, I just, you know, had to answer a million questions and I couldn't be in the, I was just, that is what it is. But at least I did put it in perspective though, because I've actually, back in the day when I used to just get my checks cashed, I remember specifically I got like a like a like a pretty fat check, you know, I was like a 20-some year old. And, you know, they give it to you in

the envelope, whatever. And it went in my back pocket. And by the time I got it was in my apartment, it was not there. And never, never, never. So I actually, I literally did lose like, say, $500 in cash once. So that was significantly worse than losing money that was never mine. Like money that was never mine sucks, but it's like it was never mine. But, uh, yeah, anyway. 500 towards the gym fund, though, would go a long ways. It sure would have been. Yeah. Because then I was like, I, I always self, uh, you know, making it worse. I guess by looking through the roster of all the places I could have got $500 from. And then like planning out of like what I could have bought.

Like, after like a whole like we really like in the house we've been basically like we have a budget set for this year. And like we were like I've ever necessarily been on a budget per se so where I can just kind of buy whatever. And I just Stephanie tells me if I was being an asshole. And now it's like we have a spreadsheet of like, you know, not all the, she takes care of all the bills on like her own little spreadsheet. But like we have X amount of money to spend on food and X amount of money to spend on

and miscellaneous and like we got to make sure we don't go over that essentially which I've never really tracked before so now I have a better understanding of like where the money goes and when me spending two two thousand to twenty five hundred hours to go to fucking Aberdeen like that actually is a lot of money because it's like that's like three months worth of extra money that we don't have I've been there for a year and it's just been that like you're starting to tighten the belt and you're watching where things are going and suddenly you're just like okay that random you know well I kind of want this barbell I'll just go pick up. You can't, you just can't do that because it's not in the, it's not in the spreadsheet.

For me, just like, just not, I didn't go to the gas. I didn't get anything at a gas station or a fast food like for this entire like, well, it's only been a week. I've been back to work. But still, like, that's a change. Like, not to say that I haven't gone a week before, but like consciously like driving by me like, nope, I forgot my monster at home, but I'm not going to buy one because I'm not going to pay $6 for one when I got a 99 cent one in the fridge and a third pack. Yeah. Yeah. So it's been good. Did you get to watch the YouTube today of Big Wafel Iron?

Anybody get a chance to watch that one? I did. Yep, I watched it. Nice. That's more than I got. I only got to, wow, this might be the first time the guests,

the guest and Joey have listened to the podcast. I'm a guest now. The guest and, well, yeah, people not Big Keith actually watch the entire YouTube video because this might be one of the few times I can come to the episode and be like, I did not get to watch the whole thing that I haven't got there yet.

But, so I watched. the first 10 minutes. Tell me about the rest. Big John, what do you think? I did not get to watch it. Oh, you did not. Well, I missed heard you. No. No. No. The hero was giving you credit. Un-

Stolen, stolen valor. Oh, God. It was like me, but the Bryce's jacket. God damn. No. I did. I guess Joey can tell us all about it. I. You actually have a good story, too, that I want to do. You can share if you want. Me?

Your kids. Oh, yeah. So I put it on right away. and I, it starts and Tanner's on the screen. And I said to Saga, I said, Saga, who's that? She goes, Tanner. And I'm like, all right, raising them right. The kids get it. They know my friends from across the continent.

And then- Tanner's still a proper country, I guess. Yep. And then Oren goes, this is Massonomics. Are you in this? And I'm like, not this one, pal. My podcast might show up. Like sometimes our banner or, or,

I don't know if Steve has one. Or our sticker shows up. And then he was like, oh, and then went back to his Lego, like, he didn't care because I wasn't there. I mean, we heard about it when he was on our episode. So there was nothing like really kind of crazy that we weren't expecting. I got to the pneumatic thing. That was interesting. Yeah, that was wild.

The air compressed free motion machine in his basement was interesting. Yeah, that's, we used to be a proper country machine. we don't need no battery-powered vultures. We got air tanks and pneumatic pressure. Does Scantz and the boys show up at the end? No, no. Actually, Scantz only shows up for a few seconds. He brought his inclusive fitness stuff,

so he brought the sandbag. I have one of those two, the Inuk Shucks. I don't have the throw bag because I don't have anywhere to throw, but no, no, no, he got name dropped a bunch, but he only showed up for a brief second during the dodge ball at the beginning. We did get to see the pole vault mats, the $5 pole vault mats.

No, Jim, we're talking about those. He was all excited about. Yeah, that was really neat. But ultimately, it was really fun. I'm happy I watched it. I do have to say, 25 minutes in, I yelled, how long is this? It was 40 minutes long, so I think.

That's actually a little shorter in some of the long ones lately. Yeah, I know, but it's long for me to watch. watch a YouTube video. Can you watch it on like 1,25 just so it's a local. I know you consume a lot of the audio at higher speeds.

And with YouTube, you can speed it up. I didn't think you did that. I didn't know how consumable would be because like watching the mouth move so fucking fat. Yeah. Them like, cartooning around. Moving around like.

Because like there's a couple, there's a couple, there's, uh, the podcast we were just talking about earlier with, uh, Mike and Jake. Like they both are so slow, talking humans that like I have to listen to it on one.

Like, unless I'm listening live, If I'm listening to it and playback on YouTube, it's like one, two, five just to get, like, conversation speed. Yeah. And Tanner, not being able to pull off the 154 for a dumbbell. That was the last thing I saw. So, Tanner, you let me down, bud. Yeah.

So anyway, that's our review. Way to go off wire and love you, dude. Yeah. We already talked about the power lifting sign up, essentially. If you're listening to this, it's way too late to get in on power lifting, unless somehow, just a week later, no one signs up after only be. eight spots left. I don't see that. Sucks to suck.

Join the wait. But join the wait list. Yeah, join the wait list. I, uh, last night was, I get, we like, this is a podcast, uh, you know, made by poop stories for poop stories. So I got a brief one here for you. Yeah, this is a big Keith poop story, if you will. Um, last night was the pre show.

I was very tired. I was not going to listen to it. And I just kind of got sucked in by just the, the discord chirping and all the, all the damn memes. And I was like, all right. Let me, let me at least get into the pre show because I, I've been frustrated with with listeners. into so much of the podcast that like, you know, it's, it's not as enjoyable, I don't think,

just to listen to the hour sometimes. I want the whole podcast to listen to. That's why I stopped. Yeah. So, like, then you go to listen on your way to work and you're like, oh, I already heard all this. Yeah. So, but anyway, I at least wanted to get the pre-show because there are, there is like, you know, they're not all bangers, but for the most part, there's pretty good, there's pretty good pre-shows. So, you know, a couple minutes into it, my stomach just started gurgling and churning, and I was like, oh, I'm going to, I'm going to have some movements here. I get in the bathroom and I kind of know my body well enough that I know what I'm going to puke to and just get those fucking dry heaves so and I got my I got my bow's headphones on why I'm essentially for you know the entire length of the pre show and a little bit into the show show show just diarrhea and vomiting for like four minutes straight just horrible with my headphones so on because I didn't want to miss anything it was also like what I'm going to do I don't want to say I take them off at that point because I'm already just covered in puking shit so it's just like I'm not going to touch my headphones but yeah that was that was some I feel that was a pretty good day. I feel that was a pretty good day. I don't know. I feel that was a pretty good day. dedication to get the pre-show grease. I had grease coming out of both holes. It was,

uh, unpleasant. So, so that was your shit story this week, boys. So did you take another shower? Absolutely. That's the question. Yeah. That is. Yeah. That's what I am definitely. Jordan Wong and I have that in common. That's, that is, uh, that was definitely a, a handheld shower head, you know, shower. So then you were good after that? I mean, I, I, I down half a bottle of Peptibismo, laid back in bed, got back up a couple more times for some more relief. Because it's just one of those, like, you know, I don't, you feel like you get that bloated constipation thing. You don't really get enough relief. And then you just have just a little bit and then a little bit and then a lot and then a lot.

And then it's a garden hose and then a lot. And yeah. So that was very pleasant. That sounds like, devil legs, did you. That sounds like what I did. I do think it was the food. We, we had, the wife got a bird. She shorted some burgers. We were, we were going to go out on a date night. And then I ended up getting stuck in traffic and got home like a half hour later. So she had already, I had texted her that. So she had already ordered food. The food ended up coming cold. It was like a shitty burger. I mean, it was good. Usually it's really good food.

We've eaten there a handful of times. It's a, you know, it's a pub like a mile away. And it's always usually fresh and tasty. But it was macaroni salad and a cold burger. And I think eating that, I don't know, it was a couple hours later. The most, I wouldn't say, it's annoying, and not annoying, but our, so our delivery driver, she literally locked her keys in her car. And the woman, poor woman didn't speak fluent English. And then she comes back to the door and is it kind of like asking for help and broken English.

And I, I, we don't always. what I, so Stephanie had to essentially like Google because at first Stephanie was like do of triple A and she was just didn't have a clue what the fuck she was talking about. And then she just Googled like the non-emergency, you know, pull police number and gave her that. She called that and like an hour later, someone came and helped her eventually. But thankfully it was like 40 degrees out. So we didn't like feel obligated to be like, eh, come on into our house. Stranger that just delivered food to our house that was fucking cold. And then like proceeded to ruin our dinner by like bugging us. It's like, I'm sorry that happened to you. But we just paid what. too much money for this. Why did you lock your fucking car? Yeah. You probably got sick from the cold macaroni salad. I mean, I don't even, I don't get cold macaroni salad. I don't understand it.

Oh, you eat your macaroni salad hot, like, like, no, like, what's, what's the point of macaroni salad? Like cold salads in general. I just, it's just not for me, man. Well, the guests will tell us all about that later. But yes, that is funny. That's a funny full circle from the show notes. So that's my pre-show dedication.

We will do a meet. You want to do the sad thing? Or do you want to me to talk about the Strong Men Show? Yeah, we can do the sad thing. On Saturday, this most recent Saturday, Eddie Hall broke the news. And, you know, it hit me harder than I thought it would. I did spend most of that day kind of to moping about about it. But Powell Dwyer passed away.

first heard of him honestly the first time I heard about him was on the Massanomics podcast and I still think it was one of the best episodes they have ever done I don't you know

we joke about nose breaths and laughing under our breath and all that but I think that was one of the few episodes where I laughed out loud consistently for the entire episode um so

um you know he we I'm not going to pretend to go into details or anything like that I don't have all the details I don't want them. But, you know, he left behind some children and a wife. He was a very good dude. His persona online was one that stood up for people who were being bullied.

He stood up for, you know, the smaller people and the marginalized. And Powerdwire, you will be missed. And, you know, rest in power, brother. Yep, rest and power, my friend. Don't be a con out there. And any listeners, just don't be a, that should. You know, don't be a cunt. Like, it's lived by his motto.

Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Yeah, that was, that hit me. I had, uh, I was leaving the gym and our, uh, a good friend and Chris's and Lucas's coach had just blown his knee out underneath a double body weight sandbag, like 10 minutes before we left the gym. And it was like very traumatic. And then as soon as I got like, the first time I looked at my phone was like 20 minutes after that. And you had mentioned about Paul's passing.

So it was just like trauma, like physical and. like visual and audible trauma that I just like partook in and then just like oh shit the guy that I fairly much were you know out of any influencer that to respect that might be one of them. I was like fuck. Yeah. So that was like two two kicks in the teeth all in like a 20 minute span. I felt like.

So that was a pretty somber Saturday. Yeah. It, you know, I followed him and stuff. And I listened to the back catalog, listen to their podcast with him, massonomics and when I when I read that and read everything and not to get into that but like

it just like made me sick the rest of the day honestly like I just yeah bad deal I probably spent the first half an hour somebody I think it was Brad broke it in the discord and I spent half an hour unable to do anything else

but try and find anything about it right but then it you know it slowly rolled out that it was true So yeah, not a great Saturday, but you might have had a better Saturday. You want to go over your Strongman show that we didn't get to talk about last week? Yeah, I think we, I think it was on the 19th that competed maybe, but we had that week off. And then the week we came back, we did our year-end recap.

So we had like a 45-minute pre-show, essentially, and kind of just cut a lot of stuff short. But yeah, so I did my December Strongman show. I think it's the second time I've done that particular show. It's, what is it? It's wrecked the halls, play on, you know, the Christmas term there. It was a fun, a very fun show. It was an axle rising bar and did it that because they switched up like, you know, with Strongman, you don't really know, like, I, you know, I read Iron Podium and sometimes

I'm like, oh, this is 100% what's going to happen. And then I get there and I'm like, ah, fuck. But I've gotten a lot better of like adapting. Like, I still, I might be one of the, I feel like I'm the only one that's still aware that it's different because I'm the only one that like really looks at iron podium thoroughly. But I didn't let it affect me. Like, so I was very proud of that. we were supposed to be, it was supposed to, my class was supposed to start at like 135 as like the lowest weight.

But then we got paired with the, they mixed us with the juniors too. So then they started a hundred pounds for some of them. So then, and it was 20 pound jumps. So what was going to be, I already had strategically done my jumps to where I would like basically tie my PR or maybe jump just under my PR at like what my third attempt would have been a 215. And I think my current PR was 215 or something like that. And I was like, did my head real quick. I was like, oh shit. So now I have to either do like, you know, 200 or 220.

So I'm actually, I have to go for a five-pound PR. So I was essentially forced to do a PR, which was cool because I did get it. And then I, for some reason in my head, I thought it was just going to be a three attempts because a lot of like your, a lot of lifts like that or you just, you hop in where you want to, but you only get three attempts. But then it was like, no, it's, it's, it's, it's go until you miss. And I was like, fuck, okay. But it's now it's still 20 pounds. So I went from like getting like an RP nine to, you know, PR to like, then adding 20 pounds. And yeah, 240, I don't even think I got to my, I think I maybe got to my belt, but I'm not even sure if I did or not.

As far as, like, trying to just clean it up. So I still walked away with a five-pound PR for that. It was super happy and stoked. Went into the hoist, which was, ended up being more of a, like, a truck pool almost. Like, like, the way it was, like, the rope was slightly at an angle, but it wasn't like, I wasn't like pulling down. Like, I was, like, a climbing rope. So, but that was fun because I hadn't done that weight in training. So it's just like an arm over on, like, rope pull.

but I think I did pretty well in that, but they screwed up the time, which was funny because like, I think on Iron Podium, the way they entered my time was opposite of how they did everyone else's, because some of the, I think everyone else's was, it was a 60 second time limit.

So the way they did the stop clock, it was whatever was left on the stop clock. So say like if someone did nine seconds, it would be 51 seconds on the clock. So like that was their time entered. But then for some reason they did mine like the opposite and entered like nine seconds. So then like here I am against everyone else that like, better than me, but there's a saying like 40 or 50 seconds, and mine says like 12 seconds or something.

So it just looks kind of funny. But that was a fun event that I did not get to finish in training. I wasn't sure I was going to get. So I was half in my head going like, oh, I'm going to zero this. But getting that was really fun. A stoned axle deadlift from the floor. It was a set weight for reps. And it was the weight was 455 on a, you know, a stiff axle. So for me, that would have been a like a 10 pound for 15 pound PR on an axle deadlift and I ended up getting it for a double so I was super stoked to that I was I was just shooting first I was excited to get a single and I ended up getting a fairly decent double that's awesome and then as soon as I went to go get that third rep I was just like nah it's not there today budd like I still had like 30 seconds left and I was just like I'm

not going to try to fight this I was already I already over I wouldn't I already overachieve what I was anticipating so what's your PR double do you lose points if you try and fail no so for that particular event, like in Strongman in general or for that event? Let's just say this event. So no, it's like it's so, I didn't have anyone else in my class or it didn't really matter what I did. Like the other guy I was competing with dropped out. But say he was still in it

and he's significant, like, we are equalish on some lifts, but he's significantly better at deadlifting. So he could have, uh, because like that's a guy I know, but um, he could have done three reps and I could have done two reps and he still would have won or he could have done 20 reps and I did one rep and he still would have won. It's just a matter of the way with Strongman, it's like, whoever wins the event gets the, say there's, there's two, so normally

there's like, say there's five people in a class. Like, you're, well, this is actually a learning moment for Joey because it's not aware. Do you know how like Strongman scoring in general works? Nope. Okay, so cool. I didn't either until like two years ago when I first did it. So however many people are in your class is the maximum amount of points the first place person can get. So if there's five people in your class and you finish first in said event, you get five points for that event. The person in second place gets four points and then so on all the way down to where whoever finished last gets one point unless they didn't complete it and then it's a zero like on the oh okay the drag that i didn't do i got a zero in that event but even if i had done it the only alternative would have been

to get a one or a zero um but and then there's different events where it's like half points if you tie and then like you split the difference and then the way so strong man is there's a lot too strong man as far as like understanding how it works it's if you have the opportunity even just go and watch one and just kind of have a more, a more better understanding. But I have, I have watched lots of strong men. Yeah.

Doesn't make, it doesn't make the scoring any clearer because they're not using the, they're not using the strong man scoreboard, right? And strong man scoreboard, I don't know. I feel like that's really good like per event, but I don't, I'm,

Nate can edit in here and say wrong again, Keith, but I don't think at least not last year, it was super quick with, like, live point standings and everything. Yeah. What I was wondering, like, if you did those two successfully and then went for a third and didn't get it with that third cost of points. No, no, no, no.

Okay. The only thing maybe would be is if essentially it's, I guess the only thing that would be even in that kind of wheelhouse is if there's two different implements. The heavier, say you have the option to do either the 400 pound deadlift or the 500 pound deadlift and you do 10 reps on the 400 pound deadlift. and the guy you're going against does one rep on the 500 pound deadlift, he wins. Because anytime there's a quote unquote Trump weight, the higher weight at any reps beats the lower weight at any reps. Okay. So you would not have lost points for trying and failing that third attempt. Correct.

Yes. The only thing I lost points on was just not doing one of the events, which I was just nervous about hurting myself on. And then the last event would have been the stone to shoulder, which that one was actually kind of cool because he tiered the points. the one that I sat out, I mainly set it out because I knew I wasn't going to complete it because the way he did it is you had to do the entire drag and get a sandbag back before the time ran out. And I knew from training it, it took me the entire time just to get the drag, but the drag's worth nothing. So and when I did it, I felt like I'd like sprained like like I kind of like overdid my like cab and foot and shit. So I was like, I'm not going to be any stronger or quicker or better. I'm not going to be so much better at this that I basically cut the time in half and then have. the ability to carry my max PR sandbag back under 30 feet. So how heavy was the drag? So it was

whatever, you know, it's a... Or what was it? So it's the two, you had, so it was, you're in like a truck pool harness like bear crawling with the thing the way behind you. So it's like a big metal sled, say it weighs 100 pounds, give or take. And then the two sandbags, you have to carry are in the sled. So in my

mine, it was a 220, a 220 and a 250. So that way, plus the sled itself 30 feet down with like essentially bear crawling in a harness and then you have to carry either of the bags back. I mean, to complete it and then have it to be for time, you have to get both bags back, which out of the, out of the 30 people that did the strongman show, I think half the people zeroed because they only got the sled down and either didn't get a bag back or only got a bag partially

back. And that was pretty similar to what happened last year. So like I kind of gamed the system of not exerting myself more than I needed to for an event that I was going to zero in no matter what. if it was a half point, if it was, you get a, you get a point for getting a sandbag, or if you get a point for getting a sled and then you get like another point for, if it was tiered, you know what I mean? If sled was a point and each sandbag was a point, 100% would have tried it. But knowing that I was going to zero, right, strategically, I'm not here to kill myself because I'd rather compete more often than kill myself in an event that doesn't matter. Right.

And then the last, but so, and then the opposite of that, the flip side is the stone to shoulder. he did set it up, the DEMI director did set it up to where it was a tiered point system because it was fairly heavy stones for a lot of the classes. So you got a point to lap it. So it's to break the floor with it and get it on your quads in the seated position. You got another, like, or that was like a partial point, if you will. Same thing. Like the Trump, if you shouldered it, that beat doing anything else for any amount of reps.

And they only accepted the highest score that you got. So you couldn't just lap it 10 times and get 10 points. you basically that which that's just one getting into your chest is two and then like shouldering it would have been like three four reps uh but i only so i had a 240 stone that i've i've done a heavier stone over a bar like i think i've done like a 275 over a bar but the 240 to shoulder i tried a few times in training and just never got there um and it was like i barely even got it lapped so getting it to my i i did on my last second fight because i think i got it it lapped like three or four times or at least three times and then on my last attempt i did

get it up to my, I'd high enough on my chest to count as quote unquote on your chest to like get the point. So it doesn't really, it didn't matter in that point because I'd like doing anything going out there and at least lap in it. I still would have got the max amount of points because it was one because there was no one else in my in my class in my class. So like 10 people in it. So the winner of that class might have had like 50 points. Whereas I could have done all my events and still only got five points. But because you're not competing against other divisions. It's just it's but I didn't. And this is shit that I didn't know at all. until two years ago. And I had watched Strongman at the Arnold on fucking on YouTube for the past 10 years probably, and I still didn't really know how the scoring worked at all. I didn't like grasp that. So if maybe, you know, there might be one person that listened to me, Ramble for the last 10 minutes that now understands how Strongman scoring works slightly better. I'm one of them because I've watched it.

I've attended events. I've, but it's never really truly explained in a way that made sense the way you just explained it. So thank you. Here to help. All right. round this out with right in last week's

episode, big Jonathan, do you want to remind us what last week's episode was about and give us a rating on it? I don't remember the title, but it was essentially like a year-end recap of sorts.

Would that be an accurate statement? I agree. I wonder where they got that idea. It was great. It was great. I actually really enjoyed it. I really enjoy watching them succeed, especially being from the dean, you know, and being pretty close to it for

quite a number of years. But anyway, I would give it, I would give it five out of five horse a piece, honestly. There was a lot of horse talk. That was the, I was surprised that wasn't the episode title, it was just worst talk. Earlier in the podcast, there was a little, you know, I know it's vain, but anytime I, you know, everyone, don't, if you're listening to this and you hear your name on the podcast, don't tell me it's not like one of your favorite parts of the podcast because it's still pretty cool. Even if you heard your name on the podcast 20 times, it's still pretty cool. So when Tommy was talking about like trying to pick like the top 10 YouTube videos and he was like, you know, named like these four or five like, you know, people that

are much more popular than me. And then he threw my name in there. I was like, oh, fuck yeah. I'm, I'm in that group of people that he mentioned, but I really shouldn't be. So I thought that was kind of cool. The horse talk was hysterical. You know, I was, I was champing at the bit to, you know, to hear what the next horse comment was going to be. I'm waiting for Tanner to start implementing champing at the bit as he mentioned. That might have been on the pre-show this week,

or maybe it was that episode, but he was adamant that he was going to start saying champing at the bit to fuck with people. Yeah. You know, not to be confused with chomping. Yeah, because I for sure had to, you know, it's been chomping my entire, you know, adult awareness of the term.

But it is initially, originally, at some point, hundreds years ago, champing, whatever the fuck champing means. I don't know. I'm not a champion of that word. So I'll go ahead and give it a five out of five champions. The Apple Watch Talk, it's really interesting, Tanner, finally got one as I got rid of mine. I've had one for probably six to ten years.

Like, I genuinely don't recall how long I had one for. And I finally just got rid of it because I realized I just don't like it. Like, I wore it for so long because, like, oh, it helps track this and does this and this, does that. And then eventually it was like, but I don't use it for any of that. And it took me that long to clue in. The horse talk was great. I still have my favorite horse phrase, which I put in the Discord. That was the first time I could, yeah, I chuckled when I saw that.

Let's make like a horse's dick and hit the road. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Yeah, that one's a little blue, but it's funny to me. So I'm going to go ahead and give that five out of five. asses on one horse. Is saying a little blue

Canadian thing, or am I just never heard that? It's a comedy term. So blue comedy would be like nighttime after hours comedy. Like red light did. Nope. No, but like sure.

I just, I'm still trying to wrap my head around blue comedy. That's interesting. I'll have to ask ChatGBT about that later and have you tell me how wrong chat. ChatGBT. sucks. I catch it being, like, when I'm doing, like, I use it quite often more for, I always go down Wikipedia rabbit holes a lot of times. So then now I kind of do the chat GPT rabbit holes,

but it's just regurgitates Wikipedia. But it's nice to like, it'll group stuff and compare shit for me to, like, look at, so like, that's convenient. But I also take it all with a grain of salt. Yeah. And it's, I've talked about it before with AI and chat GPT and perplexity and all of these other you know, large language models or whatever is you have to be super specific with what you ask. So in our conversation, I asked Google how many countries use Celsius versus Fahrenheit. And Google said 99%. Ah, okay. You asked population, right? Because that will include countries that like, you know, even the U.S. where a certain specific group would use Celsius or whatever for their specific type of studies. So like, it's a different question. It's a different answer. And then I said,

okay, I'm going to go ask chat GPT the same question in my wording. And I got a different answer than you got and I got. And I just like, why do I even bother? I hate chat TVT. it just, I'm going to just start asking the Oracle or whatever, anything better is. Going to climb a mountain and get stoned. That's funny. I had, like, there was some Matrix talk at work today. That's kind of funny. It's a full circle there.

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you think we ought to kick out. Do we have any? No, that's good. That's fine. It was kind of funny because last week we had like eight people in here, but the holidays, right? Do you want to kick everybody out that's not here and we can get Jonathan on the horn? Why don't we get our guest to do an ad read first? Yeah.

Fuck. God, it's my first rodeo. Jonathan, do you have an ad read for us, my friend? For our first and only sponsor. I do. First time listener. Yeah. Anthony.

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All right. Big Jonathan, is that you, buddy? We can get you on the horn. That is. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, welcome to the podcast. Let's go ahead and introduce yourself. Who you are?

Where are you from? I won't know. Who you are? Instagram, Discord. you know, name, all that jazz. You know who we were talking to. Yeah, so my name is Jonathan. Big Johnny P. on Discord.

On Instagram, I am Bowen Me. Yeah, your Instagram is so fucking hard to find. I know. I actually had to ask it. You're the worst. And then your Instagram and then your discord is different. You have three different. You have your name.

You have your Instagram and then you have your Discord. And you don't spell Johnny right either. So it's not the same as Jonathan. So then it's like, no, no. Like, guys, I'm trying to type. out Jonathan, like Johnny doesn't show up. So it's like, God damn it, where the fuck is this guy? It took me like five minutes

to tag you in Discord this afternoon. It was so annoying. Oh, yeah. Share your last name, too, with this, because you might, people might cue in who you are more with that. Yeah, Phillips. So Jonathan Phillips, if that should come up on Instagram. Bow and me, go ahead. I was just saying, we've had many of Phillips on here

and you are a relation, so we'll get in all that later, but just anyone's familiar. This is this is one of those Phillips. Yeah, we've had lots of Phillips and Phillips adjacent. We have. That's true, yeah. Yeah, no, I genuinely, I was just like, I messaged him today.

I was like, does he even have Instagram? And he's like, yeah, and he sends me your profile. I was like, I follow him. But I couldn't, like, when I was typing in Jonathan, I couldn't find it. Yeah, I thought about changing the bow and me. But so when I created my Instagram account, you would be surprised. is with anything, even an email address or whatever you want. But Jonathan Phillips is incredibly hard to incorporate in social media or email or anything.

So when I created my Instagram account, I had a dog named Beau. He was the first dog I ever got. I was wanted a dog as a kid and wasn't allowed to get one. So I got a black lab, which was my best friend and hunting partner. And his name was Boe and me. That's what I was gathering because it wasn't spelled like, because I know you're into archery, but it wasn't the archery bow. I was like, it's got to be an animal.

It's got to be a pet. And then like I get it. But for some reason, your name, like, I can't get your name to populate when I type in Jonathan Phillips. Like, and I have to like remember. Really? Oh, yeah, maybe. So I don't know.

Maybe there's a way to add it. Because like some people now pop up with like their handle, but then their name is in parentheses, but not everyone does that. So I don't know if there's a new setting on Instagram where you can make yourself more findable, but I don't know. That's what we got, that's who we got everybody. Yeah. Well, we'll get generally on that for you.

Yeah, right. So, you know, what brought you to Massonomics? We know what brought all your friends and family, but what brought you? Well, really, I guess when it, well, yeah, so when it boils down to it, it'd be Big Grayson. You know, that's my nephew. Of course, he was, you know, lifting at Massonomics as they were getting started. And, of course, we'd love to support him. So we'd go to the strongman shows and stuff like that.

And yeah, that's really how it started. She has been Masonomic adjacent for well over a decade then, or right at a decade. Yeah, right at a decade, 2016, I would say for sure. And it's funny when the Discord started and stuff, Grayson was trying to get me to join and stuff. and I'm like, I don't even know what you're talking about. Like, I'm quite a bit older than Grayson, you know, like, like, I understood the community side of it.

And I'm like, just like, what do you, what do you mean? Like, what are you doing on there? I don't understand, you know. So anyway, it's 2016, yeah, somewhere around there was probably when we really started supporting them. And, you know, we bought our first banners. Either late 2016 or beginning of 2017. I don't remember.

But. Nice. If you're listening and trying to convince people, I've said it before, 700, 800, 800 people that like to lift and just want to make each other laugh. Yeah. That is all the Discord is.

Yeah. Well, and, you know, being around, especially the lift hard and the VZ now, and just seeing the community and how people interact with each other. And, like, everybody is there to,

support everybody and it is so genuine. It's so genuine and it's kind of funny because generally's mom, my mother-in-law and her sister came to watch her compete at the Lift Hardly v.3 and we went to dinner that night with them and they had both made the comment like this is an unbelievable community. Like everybody is so nice and genuinely there to support everyone like I said and nobody cares what you're lifting. or what you're even doing. They're just there to support you. And it's pretty incredible.

So you had been at, have you been at every event? Have you supported? I mean, I have you supported. So you've been at all three strong men shows and then all three live hard of the Vizis? Yeah. And how's, as an observer for, well, five of those, how is, how is that changed? And then, well, I mean, we know you're competing this year.

So we can dive into that later too. But I just, I guess I want the, an outsider's person. Well, someone that observed. from like before crew was crew like you watched like if anyone can go back and watch them on youtube if if you're bored and you haven't had a chance to watch them just go look at some of the old strongman shows they're pretty cool to watch uh so i guess just share share your thoughts on the the changes i guess yeah you know it it was really kind of incredible to watch and the the events will run together for me you know i don't know i couldn't necessarily say what year

was which out at the, when they had them at the fairgrounds, but, you know, watching those guys do those things, man, was like, it was pretty impressive. And then that one year it was raining and just a miserable mess for the competitors, I'm sure, and really kind of probably unsafe, but it was like that really added to it, you know, I mean, as a spectator's standpoint, you know, but it drew a big crowd at the, when they had it at the fairgrounds, you know, it was very, it was It's very entertaining, very fun to watch. Do you think it's a big crowd because the fairer was just packed and there's just people wandering over?

Or was there like, was it like an mission to get into watch it? Or was it just like there's a Paris wheel 20 feet away and then like this is just here and people just kind of come and hang out? I think people, well, you know, I don't know, I guess. You know, living in such a, I would consider it a small town, you know. I mean, everybody really probably a lot of people could come and watch people they knew and everybody knew what was going on, I wouldn't say. So, yeah, I don't know.

It's probably a little of both, I guess, to answer your question. You know, people were out there at the fair and they're like, oh, let's go check this out, you know, and then walked over there at a bunch of dudes doing just crazy stuff. So it's kind of funny because Big Jake, he, so there was, okay, so I don't want to jump ahead, but. there was a little bit of rivalry. I wouldn't say rivalry,

but within myself, like, Big Jake was the nephew of one of our competitors for our business. And this was before I knew who anybody was, right? That's hysterical. So I'm just like, my nephew's stronger than your nephew, you know,

and it's just kind of this funny thing. And now I've gotten to know Jake, you know, and I love Jake. He's a good dude. And so it was just really funny. I was like, I was like, might have to use so much stronger. And, you know, it turns out Jake's an incredibly strong human as well.

Oh, yeah. It was fun. So then, you know, watching those in, what, say, 16, 17, 18, give or take. And then then getting revived five years later, give or take in 23, 23 just being power lifting. And then in 24 and 25, bringing back strong, man. Just, you know, share your thoughts, I guess, on what you observed. And with last year, Ciena as a competitor as well.

or this year. I mean, it was last year now. It is 20. Yeah, you know, I think a lot of people maybe would agree unless you're into powerlifting or have somebody to watch that like it's not all that exciting to them. But honestly, to be quite honest with you, for me, I could sit there and watch it all day because I really love to see people step up there no matter which lift they're doing and I don't care what's on the bar.

but to watch them go through the struggle and then, you know, it doesn't always work out. But to see them hit that is just, like I said, I could watch it all day. I love watching it. But adding the strong. Heavy as a feeling, you know. Yeah, right, right. Seeing that in person. When you're a little guy, that means a lot more too.

So, but yeah, adding the strong man, I really enjoyed that, of course. You know, that's fun. And then watching generally compete. Like, you know, you really, I really couldn't be any more proud of her because, like, if you knew generally like I do for the last 25 years, you would have said there is no way on earth. She's going to get in front of people and do anything, far less what she did. But then, you know, to watch her train over the years that we have been training with small. kids, you know, and not, it's not easy, right? I mean, that's why we built the home gym so that the kids could be involved. But to watch her train for so many years and then go out there and

really kill it, man, that was, that was pretty special. That was pretty cool. Well, I hope she feels the same way about you this year. Yeah, and we'll see. I'm sure she will. Sorry, I disappeared for a minute there. I needed an elastic for my beard and when like apparently the act of me standing up sent me running to the washroom. So I was gone for a few minutes there. Things happen. And if you want to hit him with a couple? Well, you haven't been crossing them off so I don't know what you ask. We're up to date. Oh, okay. We just, we literally talked about, uh, power lifting and a strongman for the last 10 minutes and it's awesome. Oh, dope, dope, dope, dope, dope. I probably should have included it. My little girl likes to come to the gym with me now. And, uh, no, it's not. Uh,

It's nice to an extent. Yeah. But like. But there's got to be like a dedicated stay over here, space, honey. Yeah. So I was doing overhead press. And that's the worst time to have a child.

And she waited until the axle and the weight was over my head. To go, Daddy, Daddy, Daddy, Daddy. And I finally just like went, no. And then like, I had to like put. it on my chest, see where she was, because my worry was that I would put it down and she was directly under me. And she goes, those are from the summer.

And she points to something in the basement. And then I was like, oh, no. And then my wife came down. She heard me yell no. So, so as yes, the dream is have the children in the gym, but also, ah, not going to ask how you explained you and you to your people, because your people were very soon and Jenna Lee who submitted all of our stuff. And I'm fairly certain they get it.

Do you have a Hall of Fame status? Yeah, I believe it is eight, I would say. Including this? Including this, yeah. That a boy. Yep, yeah. Very good, very good. You've been around since, like, day one.

Is there a piece of Massonomics merch that you said, nah, I don't want that? And now you want that? You know, I spent a lot of time thinking about that. I don't have a great answer for it, but I will answer it like this. I want one of the coats, a full zip. That being said, a little caveat to that is every time I buy a full zip, I hate them. Like, I just hate the way they fit.

I hate everything about them, but I do. That's probably one thing. Yeah, that's why I don't buy zip-up hoodie. anymore. I just, I gave up. I don't like the way they bunch up at the belly. Yeah, right. Yeah, I feel like your pockets, you've got a big lump. Right. I feel like I'm getting

older to the point where, like, I don't really care what it looks like. I just want to wear it because it's easy to put on when I need to run outside and do chores or whatever it is. But same, though, on your thoughts. Keith, do you want to go with the next one? Yeah, I'm going to hit you with the least fun, most fun and then it'll kind of segue

into the one after that, give or take. So Jonathan, are you familiar with least fun, most fun? I am. All right. Do you want to explain to your family and friends how we play or do me too? I can try. I mean, I know what it is. Like, you'll give me a topic and I have to definitively

tell you the least fun thing about it and the most fun thing about it. 100% accurate. Thank you very much. So least fun, most fun, fabricating your own gym. equipment. The most fun thing about it is seeing it come together and using it, I guess. I enjoy the whole process.

Yeah, that's probably most fun. What's least fun? It's got to be something. Well, buying the equipment. No, no, because I, most of the stuff I'm fabricating is just like materials we have left over from jobs and things like that. So what about other people asking you to make shit for them and you don't have time? I could see that being a pain in the dick.

Yeah. So what I was going to say was and not really because of that reason, but what I was going to say was the time it takes to make just because like I when there's something that I want or want to do or whatever you want to put it, like I'm kind of impatient on that. Like I just want it to be done and use it. and it'd be awesome. But, like, I don't mind people asking. It would be a problem if there was, like, 30 people asking or 10 people, you know,

because it does take a lot of time to do it by the time you cut everything and weld everything, grind, prep and paint, and it's pretty time-consuming. Yeah, we just saw Ginnelly's story of going into your shop and picking up the circus dumbbell before it was ready to go or something. I got a kick out of that. Yeah. I don't suppose we could see it. I can show you a picture of it.

If you can, it's in the, it's in the other side of my shop. But can you see that? Oh, that's gorgeous. Yeah, so I saw Genoley planned with it. Yeah. So I got a painted. What's that in a point? You know what I haven't weighed yet.

I weighed the 12. I weighed the 12. I weighed the 12. This is a 10 inch one. I weighed the 12 inch ones I made. Those come in without paint at 47 pounds. Oh, okay. So that'll be good.

light. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I was going to wait until I was done painting it to weigh this one because I'm curious, you know, yeah, yeah, for sure. What the finish product is. I'm guessing somewhere around 40 pounds, probably. Yeah, it's a very good starting weight.

Hopefully it's, you know, to be very careful because to be that light compared to other ones of that size, I'm assuming it's fairly thin, you know, tubing. It is, but I've got a inch and a half by three-eighths. thick flat bar that I welded around the end of the bell to stiffen it. Similar to, are you familiar with Snake River fabrication? I think they're out of Iowa. Garrison, yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. I thought that's maybe where he got that. I saw that. Yeah, and Andrew Garrison has the one from them, I believe. Yeah. So this. So this. Today and the old Discord or the internet, if you will.

Yeah. So this is really similar to that. I welded that, that, that band around the end of the bell that hopefully prevent it from warping. But if you drop it on the concrete, it's probably not going to be great. Yeah. Yeah. All the needs to work good for the next six months.

It'll be all right. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited for her to get it. You know, like, she's... We'd love to hear that. That'll kind of segue into the one I wanted to hold because they didn't want to spoil it too much. But let's hear about the certified training facility.

Yeah, the roost. We're a second rounder, not a first rounder. Oh, I know. In this call. Right? Yeah. Yeah, we started that 2015 or 16. Man, I don't even know I should know that, but probably 2015.

Just started with a rower and a barbell and some plates and a rack, a PRX fold-up rack. And we haven't added much to it. at Sensen and honestly, I mean, some dumbbells, you know, a lap pull down. Well, I shouldn't say that. Now we are accumulating. You got a shit's on a strongman stuff. Yeah. Right. Outside of the last year, yes, probably not. But essentially, you only signed up for Liftard Libby's three. I think you guys spent a couple grand probably. Yeah. So that's, I just going to say was that's not true because we're accumulating a bit of strong man stuff. And now that, now that I'm going to try my hand at competing, you know, there's a number of things.

that I would like to get, you know, that match more of my goals. So there goes another, who knows how much money. That's why I'd like to make as much of it as I can, you know. Don't we all? And this will be your first competition? Yeah. No interest in competing up until now? No, not really.

Not at all, to be honest. I get it. I had no interest at all. And then I did. And I did a couple more. And then it was like, I think it was like last week, Keith said that he gets the itch to compete and I was like reminiscing on it. I just, I don't have that.

I don't have that itch to go out and perform in front of other people and do whatever. Like I, in that sense, I do. Like, I want to go do emceeing and, you know, have fun and do this podcast and stuff. But the competition itch isn't there for me. So you chose a good one to start. I'll tell you that. Yeah. And I thought, I contemplated doing powerless.

um last year and i just really didn't and i honestly would just rather watch the people but i know and even the people i don't know um i just and the part of it was is i a lot of my training through the years hasn't been geared towards absolute strength either which i know that doesn't matter um but i yeah i just didn't really feel like it absolutely doesn't matter so yeah But back on our gym, though, not to go back too far, but like, you know, we, the reason we kind of created it was having three little kids at home. You know, if we didn't have the gym, we wouldn't, we probably wouldn't, well, we wouldn't be massonomics crew, I'd say, if we wouldn't have built the home gym because we wouldn't have been training. Yeah, right. And we'd just be sitting there on the side.

Right. It would just be the people we see for 10 minutes once a year. Yeah. And so that was a great move. It was a very expensive move. Of course, not as expensive as it is now, but it was like, it felt crazy buying what I did, like, all in one order at first. And then, but honestly, the kids grew up in the gym and it's a lot of fun having them out there. I miss it now because Vivian, our youngest, still comes out there sometimes, but not like they used to.

I mean, they used to come out there when we were training, and even though it kind of felt like a pain in the butt sometimes, they'd have obstacle courses set up, and they'd be doing pull-ups, and then it's like, you know, you'd be doing, I'd be doing something, but whatever it was, but most likely a high-intensity interval of some sorts. And my three girls are looking at me, like, is this guy going to quit? You know, and you're trying to crank out a set of 30 wall balls.

You're like, well, you can't quit now, or you're just a big loser. Yeah, there's, there is something to that, right? And it's like, I didn't have that. And like, nobody except my brothers were into it. And, you know, you don't see your parents doing it, but I'm watching my kids. And as much as I say, like, you know, having her in the gym kind of is hard, but I'm going to have Steve. I know what you mean. Yeah.

Yeah, for Strongman Sunday. And Oren, my boy, who has no patience for the gym, specifically said, we need to be home so I can be a part of Strong and Sunday. Yeah. Right? And it's like that seeing your kids seeing you in there, whether they know you're in there or not, whether they're in there with you or not, they know the gym is a part of your life. Right.

When Orrin tells people that I'm Kratos. Like he will tell strangers, oh, my daddy's Kratos. Yeah. Like I'm not God of War strong, but he sees me that way. Yeah. Right. I know what you mean. It's the best.

Yeah, it's, I love that my kids are, the gym and us going to it is so normal for them. And I love that for them because, like, you said, like, I didn't, that wasn't a part of my life. Maybe a little bit with my oldest brother, you know, he was always jacked, Grayson's dad. But I wish I had his calves, but that's another story, I guess. How tall is Grayson's dad? Take them. Brother. Much shorter than me.

It's probably five, six, maybe. Only a little bit taller than Grayson. A little bit taller than Grace. Yeah. How big are his triceps? Oh, they were massive. Did he get his peak? He was bigger triceps than Grayson?

No, probably not. So he's quite a bit older than me, but he seemed like the biggest human on Earth. And then he drove at two-door Jeep Cherokee with like two 12-inch subwoofers in the back. So he was like the coolest human alive dropping me off at elementary school. And I was like, my brother's 23 years old. you know, the significance of that

was Michael Jordan at the time. So, like, pretty much the coolest human alive. But. Sorry. It's hard not to get off track sometimes, but when we have so many, like, mutual people, it's so hard not to bring it up, especially when it's, like, a good chance to kind of pick

someone's brain briefly. Yeah, and also talking about kids in the gym and stuff like that. I don't get to talk to Keith about that kind of thing. Right. right. I try with my cats. But it's the same thing. I'm fucking terrified of my stupid ass cat fucking running underneath my bar. And if like a, like I like

specifically work like like, like, I think if you have kids or animals in your gym, you should have collars on your fucking bar. Even if it's a weight you wouldn't normally want to. I'm not going to let a plate slide out and kill my fucking cat and my wife divorced me because I killed my fucking cat because I was too lazy to put a collar on. Yeah. That's a that's a real thing like Joey was saying like

when you're in the gym and the kids are around and you're just like just say you're doing a power snatch or something. It's like, you make sure everybody's away because you're going to be dropping that barbell. I mean, how terrible would that be? So, yeah, that's nerve-wracking for sure, 100%. Yeah, it is. And that daddy, daddy, daddy.

And like my first thought, I've got the weight over my head. And my first thought is she's right next to me. Right. Right. And then I'm going to put the weight down and put it down and she's going to be under it. Right. And it's like it's that panic. And she doesn't get it.

She just hears me go, no, not right now. Yeah. And then you almost make it. feel bad. Yeah, then she's like, oh, now I don't want to

be down here. Right. And it's like, no, that's not what I meant. I just didn't want to take your head off. Yeah.

I was scared for you, not mad at you. Exactly. The hype person question. You've got your two options here. Oh. Do you want to talk about who your hype person would be

or who you could pick to train with? Sure. Um, hype person, I'll go with like, can I, can I give two?

answers? Yeah. Is that allowed? It's your question. You got druthers. All right. I think you do have two horses. You are allowed to have two horses in this scenario.

Well, we only have one now, but we did have two horses, yeah. The time's a flat surface. The one answer would probably be, and maybe it's not as exciting, but, you know, my kids and generally, like, don't fail in front of them because, like, that's not cool. nobody wants to see their dad fail. But the other answer was, I thought about this for a long time, and I couldn't really come up with anybody, but there was one person that was sticking in my head. And it doesn't probably make sense a lot to even me,

but it would be Ross Taylor, big Ross Taylor. I don't know if you guys know. Rossmore. Someone answered that recently. Oh, really? Yeah, they did, yep. So Ross and I aren't like really close friends, but we do talk a little bit, you know, and stuff.

And living in the same town, I don't even, I don't see him all that often. But I just can imagine Ross with his hat backwards, pulled down to like probably over his eyebrows almost with maybe a big old thing of Copenhagen in his mouth and maybe some cargo shorts on. And he just got done bench in like, I don't know, 495 probably, just screaming at me. So that would probably be my answer. It's a good answer. It is. Where do you want to go from here, Keith? Jonathan, is little or as much you want to talk about your business that you own?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, we own a business here in Aberdeen, and we also have an office in Milbridge, North Central Steel Systems. I've been working there since I was 15 or 16 years old. Okay, so it's a family business then? Yeah, generally. dad started it. Gotcha.

So he's pretty much phased out of it now. He comes in. He literally dated the boss's daughter. I did. Yeah. Nice. That was fun.

Yeah, that was fun. And I mean that sarcastically and. Yeah, there are there to be some turmoil there, right? For sure. Yeah. Yeah. When my old foreman was was kind of a jerk to put it blatantly.

And anyway, that whatever. That's beside the point. I don't know. We, we, we like this. Yeah, so that was tough. And the way, the way things used to kind of happen around there, never made, and I'm not talking anything down, but there was just the old foreman. And then his dad actually was the overall foreman and the way things would happen weren't great.

But since then, things have been pretty great. We build steel building, well, we're a general contractor, essentially, but we built steel. buildings, a lot of on farm stuff, ag stuff. So grain bins and all kinds of buildings. I see some of the posts and stories, some legit heavy equipment you guys are putting up and moving around. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of rewarding to work with a customer. And I really enjoy it now. You know, when I was younger, working on the crew, there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, there's a lot of pride to be taken from somebody who's using their hands every day building stuff.

But, you know, now that I can work with customers closely and develop relationships and really listen to what they need out of their operation, that's my favorite part. Not just trying to sell them something, if that makes sense. So, yeah, it's a lot of fun. So me and my brother-in-law run the company now, and generally his mom still does the administrative, a lot of administrative stuff with generally. But yeah, we'd be lost without Susie. That's generally's mom.

So that's awesome. So, yeah. Well, you kind of touched on your lifting. You're a big Wad guy. You're like doing your hit stuff. It's just that's evolved a lot now. But what I guess, you just turned on ESPN, and you saw these guys doing CrossFit,

and you're like, that's for me? You know, I never really, I wouldn't say I really did CrossFit. Well, I don't know. I mean, I never attended a CrossFit class. I did do a lot of high-intensity training, and that is kind of where I started, so essentially CrossFit, I would suppose.

And that went on for a couple of years. And then Matt Chan, you guys probably don't know who he is, but he was one of the OG Crossfitters, right? And he's a super nice, super-com. cool dude, him and his wife, Sheree. He started doing, they started writing programming. So I used to write all my own programming for a number of years. And then I started doing his programming, which has evolved from kind of where it started was a lot of high intensity training. But it really

did evolve into something that really worked for me, especially as I got older, you know, with strength days, dedicated strength days, and then sprinkled in a little, a little bit of high intensity and a little bit of zone two stuff and um yeah it's really in zone zone two question mark i don't know is that a breathing thing a heart rate zone sorry like low low intensity long duration cardio essentially um which uh the programming that i'm doing he he he sprinkles in some things that aren't wouldn't wouldn't be your typical zone two stuff you know you're still moving and doing different things like that. So that's one day a week.

Gotcha. But yeah, a lot more strength focused now. And then, of course, I'm doing a day of strong man now. Gotcha. Did you sign up for the Jake's Saturday Strongman thing, essentially? Yeah, I did. And then I'm also, I also incorporate a day. I'm trying to.

It gets to be a lot. But as much as my body's tolerating, I'm incorporating a press day as well. So three strength days. Do you think when we're like three months out and he comes out with like his 12 week or eight week meet prep, do you think you might sign up and just buy that and just kind of go all in and just really focus on it for a couple months or just kind of keep doing what you're doing and whatever happens happens?

I don't know because, you know, this probably sounds like a stupid answer, but like I need to get stronger. Yeah. And just the gist of it, I really need to get stronger. I feel like I can move well decently enough. And like as long as I get, you know, practice what we're doing and get familiar with that and proficient, efficient, I should say, I need to focus on getting stronger. Well, doing all the match hand stuff might not be that, you know what I mean? No, it is.

But it is. Okay. He is under some heavy loads then at least. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. For the past couple of years, it's moved towards three strength days a week. Oh, awesome. And then I've been talking with him a little bit on my goals. And he recommend, you know, dropping the high intensity stuff for a while and just do the day of strong man.

And so I am getting stronger, you know. Love it. So it's going to right, you are. It's going good. You think you want to up your body weight at all? you pretty happy with where that's that. I'm trying. Gotcha. Yeah. It's not easy. Up those calories. Stop, stop walking so much.

It's not easy. And I'm not, not to sound like poor me, because that's just not the way it is, but, like, being teased as being a skinny kid your whole life. You know, I started, when I started training, I weighed 138 pounds. And, uh, you're, you're a lot bigger than I'm here. Like, I'd say, I guess you're 160. 165 is what I weigh now. And I'm still pretty dang lean. So, I mean, I've You could easily be able to, well, I'm not easily,

but you could walk around at 180 and not like have any negative complications on your health, I'd imagine. Yeah. Yeah, hopefully not. You know,

I am trying to put weight on. The way I like to eat, of course, you know, it's, you got to eat a lot of stuff, which is sometimes very hard for me. Yeah.

To do. So. Well, isn't generally the queen of a lazy person? Or easy, what is it, lazy protein or easy protein? I can't remember what she called it on her episode. Yeah, I mean, maybe, probably, but like, I'm not in, I don't, I don't like to, it's not my thing to, like, grab a protein bar or two or three throughout the day.

I just don't really like them all that much, you know. I'd rather have a meal of whatever it is, protein and rice or potatoes or something like that. So. Keep us posted on how that goes. Hopefully you get, you know, hopefully you can get that five, 10 pounds on at least.

And because you're doing, you're doing novice. It really doesn't, I mean, you're going up against guys that are 300 pounds and guys that are 120 pounds, you know, you know, you know,

just the joy, the good thing about novice is it kind of caters to, you know, everyone that's kind of newer or not as strong as they'd like to be. So, yeah, I'd like to get to 175. You know,

I'd be another 10 pounds. So it's, the heaviest I've been able to get to is 167. and then if I don't really, really try, it seems like I get back down to 163 and a day and then I'm stuck there. I know it's just all an input thing. I understand that.

Big math over there. Yeah. Get some hobby questions for them, Joey? Whatever you want. Well, I actually was just moving some of those down into unpaid and underrated, which I saw. you already did.

No, yeah. Well, they might have been duplicates because I already copied everything from unpaid and underrated down and then cherry paid a couple other things. But nothing that I didn't delete. All right, so all those will probably come up,

things they love, so I can just go into a... Oh, okay, so I shared my embarrassing shit story. You only said you had one. And then we can get to some games. Yeah. I don't know how embarrassing

thing it is, but. A little bit dirty, actually. Yeah. So I'll try to keep the backstory as short as possible. My father-in-law, I was down, I was down at his, what we call the farm, which is where we bow hunt. And his lifelong best friend, his name is Barry, was there as well. He's from Colorado. He's actually our taxidermist.

Well, Barry's father is the previous owner of the farm, all the great. ground and the farmstead and stuff and Wayne my father-in-law has since bought that that ground so anyway Barry was there visiting he had brought some pronghorn antelope jerky and he was passing it out and he was went to hand Wayne some my father-in-law and Wayne declined and I was like that's kind of weird why why did Wayne decide he didn't want any of that jerky and I'm like yeah sure I'll have some and I ate it and it was good. And so we hung out for a while and I went to go home and I got about two miles from the farm. And I'm like, oh, no, like this is not good.

Like, this is a 911 deal. And I'm, so I'm out in the country. Of course, I'm like 20 miles from home. And I'm like, this is either I am going to shit right in my pants or I'm going to pull over right now. So I barely got off the county highway and I opened the door and I'm not kidding. If I wouldn't have taken my pants down at that exact moment, like, oh, no, it was, it was the worst. It was so bad. I'm not a 911 pooping kind of guy, you know, not to overshare on that, but I was like.

Oh, that's what this podcast is about. This is terrible. And later on I had told Wayne, my father-in-law about it, and he's like, why do you think I told him no. And I'm like, well, how am I supposed to know that? Kind of like gave me a wink or like a no signal, you know. Thanks, pop. Send the bad signal.

Yeah, right. It's a 60 still mad you dated his daughter. Yeah, well, maybe. Baby. Oh. Yeah. That's a good one. Well, at least you made it out of the car.

I think one of it was, I believe it was Big Jason a few months ago told us how he just shit his pants in his car and couldn't do you about it. It was just like, just drove, just turn around and went home. Yeah, before he. Before he. dressed as IBS, yeah? Yeah. This is a problem now.

Yeah. I mean, if I had been in town or something, that would have been horrible, there's no way I'd have made it into a gas station bathroom. So I'd have probably been on the internet crapping in the middle of the road. You're just a meme now. Right. Do you do any impressions? That must be Grayson.

I don't know, I guess. but a lot more when I was younger. But yeah, I do mess around a little bit with that. Yeah. Is there any you want to do or like tell us about? Oh, I used to, well, so I don't know which one. I'm assuming I came from Big Grayson. So my nieces and nephews obviously are quite a bit younger than me.

Well, that's not true. We're closer than age than a lot of. uncles and nieces and you were just a 23 year old cool uncle when they were kids yeah right except I was 12 or 10 and they were getting born but anyways yeah so I used to

I would babysit them right all the time when their parents would go out to supper or whatever and I would do like an Elmo voice you know back when they were kids tickle me Elmo was a toy that was pretty cool and they'd be like tick on me you know that was pretty good actually There's quite a few more, but, but yeah, that was probably the one that sticks out to him.

Actually, Grayson's sister just brought that up at Christmas this year. She is calling me Elmo, so. That's the one they put in, so. Yeah. It was. Anything else? Actually, I got one before we getting death in K. So, we know you guys have a, you know, Columbus holds a soft spot in your guys' part from

Genelese episode, and, you know, you're a big hockey fan. You follow that team. Are you going to make it to the Arnold, though? I don't know. We were there actually one year during the Arnold and we were staying at the hotel. One of the hotels that's attached to the convention center. Well, actually, we were there way back when we first started going there, you know, 10 and 11 years ago, we were in the airport in Columbus. And I'm like, what are all these massive people in here?

It's like all these people were going to the hospital? I'm so good. Right. I'm like, what? where else going on. Well, to answer your question, I'm not sure. I don't know. It's possible.

I wouldn't say no. Never say never? Yeah, right. But, you know, it sounds like maybe Home GymCon is the place to be instead. I don't know. For sure. Yeah. Proximity-wise, the Arnold is always my better choice.

But if I had, like, unlimited air miles where I could go anywhere, I would be at home gym con for sure. Yeah. But I wouldn't tell anybody. That'd be a thing. I wouldn't tell anybody I'm going. I would just be like, no, I'm not going to that. And then just show up, walk around like a stranger for a bit, wait until somebody recognize me.

Right. It's so incredibly expensive for us to fly to Columbus that if we did go, it would have to be coupled with our daughter's appointments. You know, especially flying out of Aberdeen, which is the only way we will go there. we're not going to drive to Minneapolis and then fly there. But it's expensive. It's, yeah, I hate it. I hate it. I do too. Worst, shittiest long, I hate that drive.

Like, I do too. I spent so much more money than I should have to go into Aberdeen this year to avoid that five-hour drive from Minneapolis. See, from here, it was a $150 Canadian difference. Okay. So I, you know, I was like a $600 difference for me or something. Yeah. That's crazy because I looked at both and it was, yeah, the difference was like, well, it's not worth going to Minneapolis. But I gained a lot back on this trip because I'm going, I'm getting in Wednesday and then I'm going to leave Sunday afternoon.

So I've never been able to have the afternoon Sunday flight ever. It's always been the 5 a.m. flight or the 6th a. flight or drive to Minneapolis or drive to fucking. Are you flying out of Aberdeen in the afternoon? Yes. Oh, yeah. There's only, well, there's only two flights a day out of Aberdeen. I know, but the problem is the hotel checkouts at 11.

You can come to four. You can come to the roost. I think it's two. We would actually like to see the, I actually, that wouldn't be avoided. That's not a bad idea. It would be a great idea because Andrew and I get in. I think Andrew, I think we're on the same flight in, so we need someone to pick us up anyway. Yeah, you guys who come hang out here.

We're like 12 minutes from the airport. You guys aren't actually in Aberdeen. You're not in the town of Aberdeen, though, aren't you? No, we live south of the town, but like I said, it's like 12 minutes to the airport. I didn't think of that when I was stuck in Aberdeen for four hours with nothing to do. I was just like, well, I'm not going to tell anybody, I'm going to wander around and you can't walk anywhere in Aberdeen. That's ridiculous. Not if you had like your body tonight.

Yeah, but I definitely should have just been studying to reach out and be like, yo, I'm coming over. I was like, what do you mean you can't walk anywhere in Aberdeen? I was like, you walk wherever you want, but you're trying to the mystery. Skitos. If you have pants and a long-le-shirt. Yeah, because if you're at the hotel we were at, which I think was the Ramcoda. Yeah. Like, nothing was walking distance.

Yeah, you'd have to walk, I suppose, a mile or two before you got to anything you wanted to get to. Yeah, I got to go to Kudoba and Brock Rock. Yeah. Yeah. So next time you're stuck in Aberdeen, you just hit up the roof. Don't even tell them you're coming. Just go up. have to have gently come get us.

Whoever's not working. That'd be cool. 100%. All right. I'm going to get into some FMK unless anything is jumping out at you there, Joey. This is like the 10th week in a row. I keep like,

Nate, if you're listening, we got to go into the questionnaire and edit it to where everything to FMK in Mount Rushmore, the two last things and move additional info up somewhere because I always miss everything in additional info until it's like almost too late.

Because, like, having it down here, it's like, I have to go scour that and then go back up. Well, yeah, because, like, additional info was the first to have a CTF other than the mecca in western northeast South Dakota. Yeah, that would have been cool to see. Yep. Well, sugar.

Thanks, Nate. I know you've said this before. That just proves that Nate's too busy to listen to the podcast. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what he's doing. Something, something, something, one of those, I don't know. But.

He's doing nothing. He's prepping to be a girl bad. Yes. I'm very happy for that. That's a big job. Yeah. Yeah. Are you,

uh, you guys are all done then I imagine with the year. youngest is like 10 now, right? Or eight? Oh, yeah, 10.

Sorry. Yeah. Yeah, we're done. Gently pops a boy out next month. You're going to be like, oh, fuck. Yeah,

well, start that 18 year clock over. There'll be, if that would happen, they would have to be some long, serious conversations. I cannot reproduce anymore.

So, yeah, it was back to me crew. I was batting a thousand and now that's, yeah, it's a zero. Yeah, that's the same thing.

This is, this is too easy. We need to, to stop this. Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot more fun. I mean,

so someone submitted, I don't know if it was self, self submitted or by someone else, but that you're very anti-social. But I thought you've been, you know, we've interacted a couple times and, you know,

uh, this has been fun. We saw you at the lift hard and then again at crew falls. You guys literally, you left Tommy's like 10 minutes before the picture, I think. Like, what the thing? Did you guys ride back to Aberdeen that night? Yeah. Okay.

So, yeah. That's fair. Our youngest daughter requires some medical care every single day and it has, it's a timely procedure. So that's a non-negotiable thing. And that's just what happened. I'd suck to miss that photo, though. It sucks we miss that photo. Yeah.

We could, I mean, we could always Photoshop you in there. Photoshop our heads in there. I mean, you could. Well, I mean, it's, it's, it's. easy. And like, honestly, you should, it could just ask someone in the crew to do it. Like, for your own, um, with having the gym now and being at a bunch of different events, like, I know I, I love doing, like, I print off pictures and stuff I go do and stuff. I put them in the magnetic sleeves and I just start throwing them all on all the, the metal. Your fucking gym is metal. So you can have a whole collage

of moving pictures. And it would cost you literally like it's 10, it's like 10 to 20 cents to print off a picture. The magnetic sleeves cost like 10 times more than the damn pictures. But that's something that you and generally got that could. be a nice little side hobby of like finding all these pictures, putting them up on the wall, like pictures like you, Tanner Tommy, her competing, like your kids, just anything fitness related in the gym. Yeah. I want to see that.

Grayson says we got to cover every square inch of the walls. Oh, yeah. But pictures and trading cards is a good start. Right. But back on crew falls, like I really wanted to go to Los Campiones and lift with everyone, you know. And I mean, that would have been a great opportunity to get some help with strongman movements, you know. The tsunami bar would have been a good one to try to.

For both of us, we went with... Oh, you literally have one 10 minutes away. Yeah, we went down to the gym with Big Grace and Big Hanna, and we messed around the tsunami bar, and that's... I don't... Yeah. Did Hannah break her news publicly yet, or she's been hinting to people? Okay.

Well, if you get on the internet, it's already public, so... Okay, that's what I thought. Yeah. It's still, the logic didn't... Abby didn't update the roster yet. That's not only... I know. she told me a couple of weeks ago.

I haven't seen an update on the roster yet. I haven't been super active in Discord lately with everything going on. I enjoy being in there, but I think I saw a couple of things. Hannah's been more active or maybe I shouldn't say that. That's not fair. I think she's been talking about it in there, so maybe she did go public with it. I don't know. Good enough.

All right. I think I can go into FMK now that we've made fun of Nate enough for having additional info in the wrong spot for the seventh time. All right. We're going to play a little FMK here. Anyone not familiar? So we're going to give him three topics. He has to decide which one he wants to F,

which one he wants to marry, and which one he wants to kill. I'm going to go a little bit different from the one that was submitted, because I'm not sure if that was from you or not. But let's go rifle hunting, bow hunting, and archery competitions.

FMK. I'm killing archery competitions. Well, oh, shoot. No, hang on. Dang it. I forgot. No.

When you said that, I thought, like, archery tournaments, because I assume you're probably meaning the shoot that Janelle and I do together. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, because initially it was coyote hunting, rifle hunting, bow hunting. But I'm like, well, coyote hunting is like the could be both of the other two. So I didn't, unless you think that's a better suggestion, I just thought throwing the archer

competition, it would be a little bit of a curveball. We'll go with yours because I think I think I'll the archery competition if it was If we're archery like just just just let's include you just going out in the backyard with your girls and shooting the bow too Like anything archery related that's not actually killing something Or shoot Yes that's what you're doing. Yeah That's a kind of a tough that's a tough one that's why we that's why it's FMK not easy

hard not so fun. It's it's three things that are pretty awesome. And then you judge yourself for the next week. Because when you listen back to this, you're going to be like, oh, I should have said that because that's not really what I think. Yeah, that's going to be terrible because I can't, I can't choose. Is that an option?

Druthers only go so long, but there's no druthers that's allowed you to not answer. Yeah, right. I'm going to kill the archery competitions. And just because generally and I can find and it's not really a competition that we go to. It's just a fun shoot. So Jeline and I can find something that we can do together

that we enjoy. I'm going to marry bow hunting. Okay. Because that's awesome. You are bow and me, so that tracks. Yeah. So, and then I'll F rifle hunting only because

in particular coyote hunting. So. that other than that, I can collect all the meat I need to collect bow hunting. So yeah, it's my answer. Fun stuff. I'm glad I made that a little bit harder for you.

A little bit trickier. That was tricky. Yeah, I'm going to make mine controversial. I know we don't like to do that here, but I'm going to. Mount Rushmore, dream game. So what is the game that you, the dream game, the four of them that you wish,

or that you even have already taken down. Oh, oh, like animals you're saying, okay. Jonathan's face was not true. I was like game. I was like game. Like, I don't know. Okay, yeah, I see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like, solitaire chess. Yeah, right. I was like, what? I don't know. Yeah, so, um,

a lot of my answer would come from, like, the experience, I would say that is to be, had because that's a lot of it. That is definitely a lot of it. One of them would be a bow hunt for mountain goat, I would say. And then probably just, well, West River hunt of any kind, West River, South Dakota, I should say.

That's literally one of my favorite places to be on earth, no matter what I'm doing out there, honestly. It doesn't even have to be hunting related. The next one would be, I'm going to have to say coyote hunting. You really don't like coyotes? No, I love coyotes, actually. They're my favorite North American animal, to be quite honest with you. They're unbelievably intelligent.

They can survive in any environment ever other than the Arctic, the Poles. I think they're probably in every place besides that they could survive. They're incredibly smart, and hunting them makes you a better hunter for everything, to be quite honest with you. I have a lot of respect for them, so I love them. The ones we have here, I don't know if you're familiar with it, we have coy wolves. Oh, really? Yeah, like the large majority of our population around here are coy wolves. Really?

Yeah. So they're a bit more weird. That's interesting because, you know, a lot of, a lot of. lot of wolves will really put a hurting on coyotes, but I can see how it could happen, you know, with transient wolves and a coyote. I can see that for sure. But a pack of wolves makes very short work of a coyote. Yeah, and we don't have a lot of wolves around here. Okay. Just through integrating migration. Yeah. I suppose it takes one or two to spread it out. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. So I have one Mount Rushmore left, right? You do. Um, it would probably be a mountain

bow hunt of anything, maybe elk, suppose. That's pretty incredible, you know, to hike in somewhere with 10 or 12 or 5 or whatever days in a backpack and just go out there and survive and hopefully come back with something. So that would be my... So no dreams of helicopter hunting wolves or Savannah hunting lions or anything like that. No, that does... No, I do want to... I do want to get one mountain lion with my long bow.

That's actually on my short list. That sounds so hard. Yeah. Behind hounds. So yes, it is, it's incredibly hard. But I don't want to just take any mountain lion.

And with a long bow, you know, that adds the challenge to it. That's how I bow hunts with longbow. But I do want to take one mountain line. I don't need to take a bunch of them, but I do want to take one. And the way I understand they're pretty good to eat too.

So that's on my short list But yeah, I would want to take a bottom line So a long bow versus like So a compound bow is a compound bow is not a long bow A long bow, it just only has the one axis A single string bow essentially Yeah, which How tall is that in compared to you?

Like that's The bow I shoot I shoot a 62 inch And a 64 inch bow So five just over five feet, you know So Is it old? is it a wood, like a vintage wood bow, or do they make them like, like, fire? They're, they're a modern longbow.

It's not like a self bow that was carved out of a wood stave. They, which, which that's super cool. And to be honest, I read a lot of books where it's like, you know, like the characters shoot longbows and stuff. So it's like, oh, that's interesting. But I can't imagine today's long bows or like fantasy book longbows. Yeah. Making a self-bow is something that I might actually do when it's just Jeline. I's sitting around here and the kids are gone and like, what the heck am I going to

do now. But no, I shoot modern lung bows now. You know, they're laminated core limbs and like a G10 riser and stuff like that. So they're pretty efficient, but quite a bit different than a compound bow. You know, no sites

and things like that. So you play on hard mode is what you're saying. Yeah, but and I have nothing against compound hunting or anything like that. I mean, I still own a compound. It's great. I love it. All archery is fun archery.

So whether you hunt with it or you don't. Even though he killed it, you know. Well, you only killed the competition, so that's fair. Yeah, right. Do all your girls still get into it, or they kind of outgrown it or never really got into doing it with mom and dad? Vivian is, well, they all did it when they were younger. For sure, I bought them little longbows and little wood arrows,

and they would shoot, you know, whenever I'd be out shooting, they'd want to shoot. So they all did it. Vivian, our youngest, is probably still has the most interest in it. And I think our oldest, Jay Lynn, would probably really enjoy it still. You know, they're dancers, though. So nine months out of the year, they're dancing, you know, how many every nights a week, you know, whether it's two or four nights a week.

So they're extremely busy. Well, I think you passed our games. You did. I'm going to hit you guys with some affiliates. So buckle in. Barbell Rescue. Big Kim's over there. You know, he's always making those, changing up the color of the inserts, makes it every color, but orange pretty much so far.

That's probably on purpose at this, right? No, because it's because he has to order, like, hundreds and hundreds of inserts at times. So if he can't, if he's not, you know, you can't sit on the quantity. Home JimCon, Massonomics 100% will be there and it'll probably be at least 30 crew there or more. So if you can't make it to Crew Falls, Home Gymcon might be the second, but second coolest thing, well, third, you know, you get put lift hard living there somewhere. but I would definitely go to home Jim Con over with Arnold if you're listening to this and you have the opportunity. Freedom Fitness equipment, Ashton's out there selling some price-trade stall mats as he said on Instagram the other day. And then Big Grant back in the States now, or at least his buddy is, and go get some apparel from the Strength Co.

I would buy an orange barbell brush. Not to step on your dick again, Keith, but I would buy an orange barbell brush. It's big enough we can both step on it today. The roost has quite a bit of orange stuff in it as well. Is that because your first rack was PRX and you kind of just build off of that? Or like, where's the orange? I really like orange. You know, my bull actually has orange accents in it.

And my fletcher is orange. And I'm a fan of orange as well. We like it. We'll go ahead and air this episode. So we've got another game for it. You know, this is a somewhat original. spin on it, unpaid or underrated. So Big Jonathan here is going to get about six to eight handpick selections, you know, terms, phrases,

topics, ideas, et cetera. And he's got to go through and use it druthers and decide, is this topic underrated, which means it's pretty cool or is it unpaid, which means it's not so great because nobody wants to be unpaid. So Big Jonathan, I'm going to hit you with a few here. This is fans submitted by Big Ron out in the Pacific Northwest. Miller Welders, unpaid or underrated. Miller.

Underrated. Yeah. Big Eddie just got a little happy for you. I was going to say Big Eddie will like that answer to. That's the welder. That's the welder. How many hands and pocket nice? Has Eddie given you?

None. What do you mean? None yet? Oh, man. I guess he might not actually know you too well yet. We only had the one interaction. No, we're getting to know each other a little bit through. Yeah, he's a good guy.

Yeah. I very much enjoyed his, his, his commentating. That was great. He's competing this year. He's competing this year, so I don't remember who's stepping in, but someone's got to have to step in and contribute.

Big shoes to fill there, I think. So he did a great job. Absolutely. So Miller Welters, okay, let me click that. What else we got here? So many. Unpaid or underrated energy drinks. And I'm going to assume this is a caffeine drink,

not Gatorade, but I don't know. someone said that you might have a strong opinion on these. Well, of course I do, but it doesn't carry any weight, but just for me personally, 100% unpaid. Oh, okay. Now, but for clarification, are we talking Gatorade or are we talking like monsters? Like monsters, monsters, monsters and ghosts and bangs and red bulls. You're just a black coffee guy or do you like your caffeine pills or where are you getting your boost from?

Coffee, but there is one, I don't even know if you could call it an end. as you drink. I guess you probably could. Bum energy. Have you guys heard of those? Yeah. I think that caffeine comes from coffee and actually, if you read the bottle or the can. Now the funny thing is that was one of the submitted ones and when I read it, I didn't have any

I never knew it was a company so I'm just like someone submitted that he has bum energies or he just like, a lazy Saturday is what I assumed. So that's really funny. I get it now. Yeah, it's C-Bum's products. Oh, that's B, yeah, bum. Okay, okay. Yeah, I can get him up here pretty easily

because like I said, he works out in the gym in the town over from me. But they're really low caffeine. Yeah, they're 100 milligrams, yeah. And there's only really two flavors that they have out that I like so the cola and the root beer are... I was going to say it's probably the root beer

because it's amazing. Yeah, it is. How do you say that, Jonathan? Say that for me once in? Root beer? What do you say root? And what's on top of your house? shingles

the entire thing don't don't take it don't take the bait oh no I do what I want to hear it's a roof okay and then when you go grocery shopping what do you

yeah what do you put your groceries on the cart no I I can a bag or a bag oh I'm sorry I'm not I'm not no I love this

because it's just my my joke's not landing Yeah, and or it's John just misdirecting you, which is... Yeah, he's just pulling a mofo and just fucking with me or something. No, a bag. Just as some, you know, it's every now that we get these, you know, Aberdeen adjacent fellas or Aberdeen fellas, and I want to hear how they pronounce stuff.

Oh, so, okay, explain, so a horse apart. Is that a thing you guys... It's a horse a piece. Whatever, I don't fucking care. It's dumb as a horse. You can't even get it. I know. I just fuck that up.

A horse a piece. So like I get what they're trying to say. What? How often do you, how often do you say a horse a piece? I don't know how often I actually say it, but grew up with it. I mean, it's,

I know exactly. Oh, for sure. Probably more than that. Yeah. But I mean, I'm not far from Keith and it didn't phase me at all. So I've heard it in the past. So you have. Yeah.

Okay. Like I don't use it. And it's not. something people around me use, but when I heard it, I was just like, yeah, I know what that means. And like, it was just another part of the conversation. I want to say it and see if anyone picks up on it, like, locally. Like, I'm going to say it the next time. It, like, is appropriate to say and see if I can get someone to say anything.

Yeah. I would say if I don't say it or somebody else does, it's probably monthly at least. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. Good in here. Unpaid or underrated sleepy time tease. Oh.

underrated. Nice. Anything specific? I don't really know. There's one that says bedtime and I don't know. It's got lavender or something in it. And then I like to double dip though. I mix it with another one.

It's like a stress relief tea. And honestly, like I get pretty wound up, not like hyper. Oh, that coffee you drink? No, no, no, no. In my brain. No, in my brain in the evenings. And those two combinations, man, and really it does help me get better rest. I feel like I don't have it every night.

But yeah, I very much enjoy that. I should have more camml tea and sleepy tea or whatever. Like we've got a whole box. We've got a variety of it. But it's like once a month I might drink it. I probably should be doing a couple times a week, honestly. When I'm out hunting and at the end of the day, you know, it can be pretty stressful days. You know, your body's just kind of like an overdrive because you're, it just is.

it's a stressful day and when you're out all day and whatever and it just really helps kind of just settle everything down. If only we had a friend who had a lavender farm. All right. I guess it's my turn. Yes, sir. I'm done. Unpaid or underrated.

Any type of cold casserole. Oh, man. I forgot to ask that one. That is unpaid 100% for me. For me personally. 100% unpaid. Yeah, you were saying earlier, but the macaroni salad. I don't get it.

I don't understand it. Why? Is it because it, is it, and it's fine. I mean, it's great, you know. My mom probably made all kinds of them growing up when she fed people, but like, why? I don't get it. Like, is it just for the taste? Because, like, it tastes like dog shit.

I don't know. I see what you're saying, but at the, same time, like, you're at a barbecue and you've got your barbecue meats, you've got, you know, your main attractions, you've got stuff on the side. And like, my mom used to make a really good spicy rice salad and it was served cold because it's a barbecue. You can't heat it up and take it outside. Right. Right. She had a macaroni salad that had like bacon bits and shit in it. That was dope. Like, it was so good. Yeah. So like there's parts of me that like, if my wife tomorrow was like for dinner, we're going to have a cold casserole.

I'd be like, the hell we are. It's not even so much the temperature. Well, I suppose it is because that's what kind of makes to the salad, right? But I don't know. I just don't get it. I don't enjoy them. It's okay that other people do.

That's okay. Here's a curveball in that, though. So what about like ham salad, turkey salad, chicken salad, etc.? Oh my God, no. Meat salads. No. Like, what is it? What if you mighter of it?

no what is generally really like it's what do you call it is like chicken salad spread chicken salad sandwich you guys are hearing that that makes me think of joey's eating a rotten devil egg story about your shitting all over yourself yeah like that was like is it back in the back weeks we talked but the guests shit themselves but that's oh no no uh you know i i didn't even get into the crux of that story i have so much more i think i went deep enough on mine tonight for both I just think there's so many other delicious things that you can eat that are even better for you. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Got them. Got him. There we go. There we go again with the skinny kid jokes. No, it's, it's, it's, you're obviously, you acknowledge this not enough. You're not putting enough in.

So the stuff that you're claiming is something better than these cold dishes. No, I didn't say better. I just don't understand it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cold, uh, cold, cold, uh, cold potato salad. Okay.

So I do have a question. Might not be wrong. Yeah, I just have like a comparative question instead of a try and shame you question. Cold cuts. What are those for you? Like a deli meat sandwich? Yeah. Like that?

Yeah. No, that's great. That's fine? I mean, yeah. Okay. It wouldn't be my first choice of caloric intake food. But yeah, no, that's good. Yeah.

I'm like trying to force myself to do more tuna salad, which is actually just, it's tuna, mayonnaise, and onions. Yeah. Like I don't add anything. Maybe a little dill to, you know, it up. That's a hard no for me, but that's it. No, I know. It's also a hard no for me, but I want the protein, right? Yeah, I get where I'm at now.

No. Unpaid or underrated pizza. Oh, underrated. That's delicious. No, I'll eat cold pizza, but I prefer it warm. Yeah, it's not a salad. It's a pizza. Yeah.

It's a pizza on a plate or a salad on a plate. Yeah, the next time you guys are in the dean, you need to go to, maybe you have, you need to go to a place called Batsa Pizza and get their chicken cord on blue pizza if you like that kind of thing. But it's delicious. It's amazing. It's a local pizza place, a couple that owns it, man, they've been, I don't remember when it opened, but they got to be going on 30 years, I'd say, probably. But they're cool people.

Do they use the pizza pizzazz? I don't think so Can you imagine a restaurant doing that? You walk in, you order a pizza, and they're like, yeah, it'll be 20 minutes. And there's just a pizzazz going,

a single pizzazz. Or like a George Foreman pizza maker, you know. Imagine the extension code you'd need for that sucker. Was that two or three for me? Two, I believe. I will do it.

Unpaid or underrated TikTok. Oh, unpaid. And then, yeah, I can put context to that, but I don't know that it's, well, that that's not fair of me to say because I don't use it. But I don't know that it's necessary. I think it does more harm than good, if you ask me. Especially for, especially for, I like to say especially and generally makes fun of me. Because, anyway, especially for younger children who shouldn't be on there anyways,

but good luck with that. And in particular, young females, I think it's terrible. I really do. Do you think there's a difference between TikTok and Instagram rules? That I can't answer truthfully because I don't go to the real page on my Instagram. ever and I don't do TikTok either so probably not though and then maybe YouTube

does YouTube have like a Reels thing shorts or something that's probably similar I would imagine yeah no I don't yeah I don't like it yeah I've got a TikTok account and I think I've opened TikTok I do too yeah I've opened it once in three months yeah not to interrupt you but I do too

I have a TikTok account as well but I don't use it I'm not on there So, yeah. All right. I think you passed unpaid and underrated. Good work. Well done, my friend. I do want to point out there is one thing. It's crew saying something is unpaid in the Discord.

I think that is genuinely funny. I think Matt Sanchez did it recently where he was just like, this is unpaid and like taking our podcast and putting it into like the crew either. That's hilarious. It's hilarious. is and people just get it. Like nobody questions it. That's unpaid.

And we're like, yeah, that does suck. On today, too, they were talking about, you know, people came up with their different powerlifting groups to be a team member or whatever, whatever. And I think I said something about like, oh, that would have been cool if someone made unpaid and iterated and just anyone that's been a guest. And then Jeff was just like, oh, she just went like, so like the internet. It's like 60% of the people that are going to compete. Maybe not that.

I'd actually, looking at the roster is probably only more like, 25. I mean, there's a lot of familiar names, but also not a lot of familiar names. But I did think Tanner specifically said that there's a, it's more, more crew probably signed up this time than ever. Didn't get a random influx

of non-cru or not a big amount then, so no one's sharing a sneaky link that should be kind of private. So thankfully, do you think that the power lifting's probably sold out by now? Have you checked I can look if you tell me a story tell me an embarrassing story about Gineally

and I'll look up real quick. An embarrassing story about Gently 93, so there's seven so you don't say it if you don't want to do it. Okay. So they sold one more since we got out. But my Joey's in the can.

Fesson hunting, bonus, unpaid or underrated. In Aberdeen specifically, I guess. Or Aberdeen adjacent. It's all in Aberdeen or just in the greater everybody in area. Yeah, I'm going to go with unpaid just out of personal reasons. I mean, it's great. It's great. People love it. People really get excited for it. I don't mind it. The part of it for me is having a dog, you know, and watching the dog work and stuff like that. That's what it is for me. I enjoy it. I don't do a lot of it anymore. I used to do a lot of it. But then my dog is actually really good at it.

but more of a duck hunt guy than the pheasant hunt guy. Gotcha, yeah. Nintendo, am I right? Right. There was one more thing. Oh, so all the damn chickens, was that, is that a, do you contribute into their caretaking? Or is that solely a kids and generally, do you?

No, I would say, I most certainly am in the primary, caretaker of the chickens who reside out at the roost. You are, you said. Yes, I am. Especially during the winter. Wow. Generally, that's not to say generally doesn't do it, but in the winter, it's 99% me unless I'm gone on a hunting trip. So, which is fine.

It's fine. Do you eat more of the eggs than anyone else in the house then? Yes. But just not egg salad. Hard-boiled. Correct. No. Tells about the hard-boiled. Oh, my God.

Is there a worse smell than someone cracking a container of hard-boiled eggs? I mean, yes. Yes. It's worse. Yeah. I love eggs, right? But hard-boiled is just something I've tried to do. And because it would be convenient for me, you know.

But I can't do it. I don't know if it's a texture thing. A couple of the smell. I'm not quite sure. I can't smell very well at all. And so, like, when I can smell a container hardboiled eggs being open, I'm like, I can't even imagine what that actually smells like right now. Is that like a lifetime thing or like a COVID thing?

Lifetime. Lifetime. Lifetime thing. Oh, you mean the smell thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't really know. I think it was like probably going by the wayside before that. I mean, I can smell. I don't want to make it sound like I can't smell anything, but like my sense of smell is definitely stifled for sure. It's funny because it's like, I've joked about it before that if I eat eggs every day, it's fine. And then one day it isn't, right? It's like, I'll take a fried egg. I'll take scrambled eggs.

Like, this is fine. This is fine. And then one day you're like, these are disgusting. Why am I doing this? Hard boiled is my go-to. For when I don't, I don't want one, but I know I need to eat some eggs. Hard-boiled is easily some salt and pepper. It's just the fastest and most convenient way for me to get eggs down.

because to me, they don't taste like anything. Right? So I guess I'm the opposite of you in that sense, where it's just like, if I have to eat eggs, I'm going to do hard-boiled because they don't taste like anything to me. Yeah. Yeah. I eat eggs every day.

My breakfast was two full eggs and then 137 grams of egg whites. I used to eat like five whole eggs a day. But my cholesterol was kind of high one time when I went to. to the doctor. So anyway, I don't know if that matters or not, but there's a lot of cholesterol and a full egg. Yep. For sure. But hard boiled doesn't know.

You do your own egg white then? Like you're just taking your yolk out or you also know, we're buying your egg white? We're buying egg whites, especially now in the winter when the chicken slow down laying. Oh, yeah. I can see that. Yeah. Reduce. And taking the yolk out sucks.

Well, and I would rather, instead of doing that, I feel like you're wasting so much of it, I wish I could give this, I could give the separated parts back to the animals, but like I'd rather break that egg on the ground, let the chickens and cats and dogs eat it than separate it and throw away the egg yolk, you know. Yeah, no, that makes sense. All right.

Well, this is where we hand it over to you. If you have anything you want to close out with, anything you want to, you know, try to embarrass us with or ask, pick our brains, let's hear it. I don't really have anything to embarrass you by, but I've got a few questions, a couple questions for each of you. Joey, we'll start with you. FMK, Apple products,

early 90s Royal Rumble, and Devil Degs. No, that's not fair. Might have been a different answer a month ago. Yeah. No, I'd still crush Devil Deges. I don't give it. It crushed. Probably kill the early 90s Royal Rumble.

Really? well because like the because wrestling is all about the experience the novelty the show as much as some people

I'm not a nostalgic person I think I've said that on this podcast before I like Tommy yeah I guess not I have no patience for the this is good because I remember it being good

okay I am fully aware that the human brain does not remember things it remembers how you felt about the thing at the time, which is why when somebody says something like Michael Keaton is the best Batman, I can make a very objective argument why he was the worst screen Batman ever. He is not, but because it was your first Batman and you were young and it felt good at the time and you were so amazed at how cool the movie looked, you think it's the best Batman. It is not.

it's not even close. And I think that's kind of like the same for wrestling. Is somebody says the attitude era is the best era of wrestling. And I go, go, go watch it now. It sucks. It's just edgy bullshit. Like it was the worst time in wrestling. Somebody says, oh, I remember He-Man was the greatest TV show whenever.

Okay, go watch it now. It sucks. So I'm probably going to kill early wrestling. only in the sense that like it just doesn't it has its legend uh attraction but it does not have for me good attraction that makes sense um probably going to marry apple products just because like i'm in the ecosystem i'm looking at three right now like it that's my life and i worked with apple for so long and so close to apple for so long that it would be hard for me to not be in it.

At the same time, if my iPhone quit tomorrow and somebody walked up and was like, oh, here's a Google Pixel. I wouldn't be like, yeah, I'm not having that. I would take the Google Pixel. Sure. Phones are phones. Sorry, they do what they're supposed to do. They all do the same thing in different ways.

People that want to, and I know people like to say that I'm an Apple fan boy, and it comes up probably once every couple of weeks. I'm not really. I do love Apple. I do think Apple is the superior product. Could I go without it? Yeah. Sure.

I don't want to. Yeah. Same. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess that would leave effing deviled eggs.

Yeah. But that is, that's the thing that got me sick was I was like, I love deviled eggs. Yeah, these are probably still good. He was effing them deviled eggs and then he got sick. And they aft me back. But it's only because I was just like, I love these so much. I'm going to eat them anyway. Right.

And they got me. I get it. I get it. I get it. Okay, Keith, FMK. The no wine cellar, the Strongman Garage, social media, including Discord. I fucking hate Discord as of late

Discord is like the worst thing going on Discord is just doesn't wait as fuck as of late So that's tough though Because I do get so much out of social media in general So yeah I'm gonna kill the Strongman garage gym Because I can pay 15 bucks and go to East Ave And do Strongman Saturday

Once a week and I can do 90 I can do 80% of what I want to Strongman related in the basement So the garage is just fun and neat and cool But I could do without it um so kill that i guess i'll have to f social media just because it's contributed a lot of my like expansion of my friends in life uh you know it's turned into the friends you made along the way by people you met online you know it

it has become like real friends like like i'm gonna walk like in 10 years from now when all this is setting over with more than likely like i'm gonna walk away with probably 20 people that i consider lifelong friends maybe give or take like i mean ball ball ball ball park somewhere in that range, like people that I'll still talk to on a weekly basis probably. I think that's my personal goal out of it, you know? Yep. Makes sense. If this all died tomorrow for some reason.

Leaning the other no wine cellar is that saved my mental and physical health for the last decade. So I cannot live without that for sure. That makes sense. Good. Joey, unpaid or underrated, the use of the acronym DILF. Underrated. Right on. Right on.

You know, I could explain the whole how it came into my gym and everything like that, but I just think it's stupid. I think the idea of how American Pie introduced the milf with Stifler's mom

and everything like that. Jennifer Coolidge, shout out. makes me want a hot dog real bad. Um, um, and then just to suddenly, like, want a stupid name for my gym. Right.

And having a shirt that said feral dillth from Jenny over at a deadlift till I'm dead. Because she did one for herself that said feral melf. Okay. And then she was like, might as well do dillf. And then I thought that because I was like, hey, I'm a dad who's, you know, I work out. It might be fun.

And then just naming my gym after that. Yeah, definitely underrated. Should everybody use it? Nair, but it is funny. Right. Keith, this last last game, you could say, Mount Rushmore, benefits or experiences you've gained from training. throughout the years.

And it doesn't have to, doesn't have to be four, but a ranking system of some sort. Damn. Just, oh man, that's tough. I don't know.

Might have to talk amongst yourselves for a second. So, like, just basically things I've gained from the gym and. Yeah, not necessary, they don't,

not physical, not, anything and everything is on the table. You can use your brothers. I mean, the camaraderie I've gotten from my gym, so like,

So like lifting circles, people you meet at power. I mean, I had friends in lifting community well before massonomics and stuff. So like, you know, I built my gym around trying to like get people to come and have a community and train here on Sundays and stuff. And that's kind of withered away as people just don't want to get up early and whatnot and find their own gyms and whatnot. But doing just just the community aspect that I've gained in so many different levels of it now, which expanding into home gym communities into vintage weight communities and the Masonomic community. But all that resolved started from a barbell. If there wasn't a barbell, like, if I didn't fall in love with a barbell 12 years ago, like, I wouldn't know any of these people. I wouldn't know.

Sort of like the hundred people in my phone book, I wouldn't know, but like three of them, essentially, I think, like, you know, give or take. Yeah. So it's community, for one. Self, I don't know, self-esteem. Definitely have built self-esteem. Maybe not as much, you know, as I've gained weight in the last couple years. But at one point, I was very happy with my body. And now I'm still very happy with my body in a different way as I've struggled some other health issues.

but just, um, I guess accountability. Like, you know, laying on the couch and just being a piece of shit after work for, for the first 10 years of my adult life versus, you know, when I hit 28, 29 and we're like, okay, yeah, I'm going to the gym three, four days a week for, you know, one to, you know, some amount of hours every fucking week for the rest of my life. And that's, you know, I'm 12 years into that. And no stopping now. Like, I'm going to, my goal is to, you know, be like 80 when I die or so.

They'll be training a couple days a week at some capacity. Right. That love with the barbell and that commitment to just doing something, you know, not necessarily for, you know, yes, the gym is not therapy, but if you're too stubborn to go to therapy, it's not a bad, you know, aid. That's three. Just, um. Meeting me.

Yeah, yeah, Joey's my buddy. Um, competing. Um, I would have never, like, because, like, is like training for something like that. It's kind of like, you know, playing football in high school. Like you're, you're preparing for something. You're executing something. You're doing something.

So it's like, you know, not, like Joey mentioned, like I get the bug to compete. It's almost more that I like, I feel complacent and I need something to train for more than like like the competing is fun sometimes. But I've had really horrible experiences at Parably meets and Strongman shows. I've had really awesome experiences. It's just more a matter of like, you know, if I don't have something on the radar there for at least, at least, at least once to twice a year, I got to do something kind of thing. And the last few years, I felt like I was doing something once or twice a quarter,

which was probably burnt me the fuck out. So I think this year it's going to probably compete the least. I'm going to do at least the ones. Well, I've already got one strong man show. No, that was last year. So technically I'm at zero right now. Yeah, I guess just competing in general. I mean, that's kind of a broad answer.

But knowing, learning that I like competing and what it gained, the accountability that I gain from, competing and working with a coach and just like knowing that if I'm financially and time invested into it for the end results I'll put the work in to get there kind of thing. So that was a very unique question and very hard to answer because it's so fucking broad that it's just like, yeah, well, I'm just throwing shit at the wall and kind of like, that was by design. And it would kind of answered it the way I thought you would and probably the way I would too,

honestly. Like if it wasn't for, if it wasn't for us starting training, I would probably still be sitting at the shop after work with a guy drinking beers and on the brink of divorce, you know, I mean, just being a, just being a POS probably. I don't know. Who knows? Maybe not. But. That was a good question. I appreciate that. I like, I value a, some people don't take it serious and it's, I mean, whatever, it's their podcast, but when people actually put more than 30 seconds of effort in it to kind of give back to the episode, like it's give more, I love people that come to anything in this community with the give more than you take mindset.

You know, I pride myself on that. And people that, don't do that and all they do is take just you fuck yourself so I appreciate you Jonathan yeah no absolutely and then on a more lighter note who is running the major orange glaze Instagram

page what no it's not they friend requested me today I didn't even follow I didn't follow back I didn't I didn't at first and then I felt bad because I think I it's the same thing over and over again with a different it's AI

First of all, it's AI. Yeah, well, I realize that. So I'm talking about that's me. I'm bored. It's the same thing over and over. Yeah, so I'm, yeah, I apologize. If you're listening, I, I didn't. Maybe I should have prefaced it with how do you feel about it before I tried to make light of it.

But I do feel that sometimes people get confused, like people, my friends that aren't into this community, I think some of them think that I'm just this naive asshole that have seven Instagrams. and fucking have one for my garage gym have one for this fucking major like like that I guess I'm worried about I can't even worry but it's like I don't want to be associated with anything other than the three things that I put the work into

of like my personal page my gym page so like it's not that it's not funny and cool and people like want to be lighthearted about it but like anything that takes away from the fucking last 15 years of work I've put into like building building my gyms building I mean I'm not going to say I mean, like my persona, but like my, my gym's not nothing.

My, you know what I mean? The no wine seller page is somewhat well known. So it's like having all these like parody accounts, just confuse people. And then when a lot of people I know follow them back that don't know anything about it, and I'm just like, they're going to really think this is me just being a goober. And that's kind of frustrating, but I should, you know, I can't be mad at the people for just having fun around, you know. And I should. I should have that perspective on it.

And I didn't. And yeah. I get that 100%. If I could as Keith's friend and maybe say something he's either unaware of or doesn't want to say out loud, there is a difference between having fun with and

making fun of. Oh, 100%. I agree. And that's why I should have I've been called what, I think it was Joey E or Jeff, I don't remember said when it comes to if trolling Keith was an art, Joey would be Picasso.

I love messing with Keith but it doesn't count unless he's in on it yeah sure you know what I mean yeah absolutely right and so like and and there is nobody better than me and Nate for messing with Keith but it's it's yeah today like rolling like part laughing and snorting but also like you asshole a couple of yeah I know but like comes out of like left field sometimes like He won't say anything for like two days and then he'll just like just pull something out of his ass and just like a burn on me. I'm like, thanks, buddy.

But again, it doesn't count unless you're in on it. So I do think that there comes to a point where some of these pages and they might be funny, they might be whatever they are. I do for me personally as a friend of Keith, I just go, yeah, I don't, I can't anymore. I can't. Sure. Yeah, that makes sense. And they could do it to me over and over and over again,

and it would be fine because, like, you know, but I'm a bit protective of Keith in the sense that I'm allowed to make fun of Keith. You're not. I was just like, I like my brand to not be tainted, if you will. Yeah, no, I get very different perspectives from both of us. Yeah, and then I have to have where I'm frozen. Oh, there I am. No, you're back.

Maybe. but anyway so that's that's my perspective on it I think that's Keith's perspective I did look at it I did look at the page and I was just like it's just AI videos of Keith doing a log press with different backgrounds

yeah and in full disclosure I didn't even look at it at all I did follow it back but now I'm second I'm second guessing my decision I'm curious too I think it's like the third or fourth one now in the past couple years but I don't I think some of them are pretty much dead and not active and I haven't had to have some like awkward comment DM conversations with these like mystery profiles of like

will you please change the name to where it's like super obvious that it's not me yeah it's like right it's just yeah I'm not saying that I'm famous and need to protect myself but like I'm not not saying that like it's yeah but like Joey said yeah sorry I stepped on your dick for the third time but like Joey said if you're not if you're not in on it then But it's not, the major Glazeron hasn't really stepped over the some of the, I don't know.

I feel like I'm going to offense anyone listening that. And I didn't mean to pages, but it's not a big deal. I do love the Keithhead stuff. That's my favorite part. The Keithhead stuff was awesome. The Keithhead stuff is great. That comes from love. Like I encourage people to like, and I'm not encouraging as in like, please do it.

I'm going to be sad if I don't, but like it is pretty cool. Yeah. I love seeing that shit because that it is, I feel that's from the heart. Whereas other stuff is kind of like, how do I make it about me? I don't know. That is what it is. Yep. I love most people and some people are just douches and that's just how it all to be.

I don't know if you guys noticed. I know Keith, you've been here every week for 100 and something episodes. I think I missed four. I did actually. Okay. When did this and this get here? You pointed to the... So this is a card.

kid made. I have no fucking clue what that is. How long has that been there? Morgan just putting stuff up. You'd have to go back into it. Because I don't, I don't. I'm going to go ask her after this.

And she's been like, you idiot. Those have been there for like a month. It's funny. Because we don't do a video, obviously. And I don't, I don't archive the pictures. Like, they're not in a video. They're not in a story highlight. So it'd be hard to see.

But I don't, I can't even, the crow or something. Yeah. For sure, everything up below that. Yeah. That's all, that was all me.

Yeah, I don't know what Morgan put up there. Maybe some art she made. She's waiting for you to comment on. Yeah. Well, I don't think that was her. She's still listening to the podcast?

Off and on. Especially if, like, if I tell her this episode was great to listen, but. Yeah, because that would be funny. She'll be sure you've made.

If, I mean, it's clearly not something your kids made. Well, maybe the one on the, I don't, I don't know.

No, the one. Yeah, so that's, it's a tie. It's a tie. looking. It's a shirt and tie that I think my boy

or something. This one, the crow thing, I don't know what that is or where it came from. I have other things that should have gone up. So yeah, all right, cool. You guys probably saw me halfway through that conversation, turn around and go, what is happening behind me? Well, that's what I was trying to figure out.

Anyway, welcome on Pagan underrated. I have no clue what's happening behind me. Big Jonathan, I'd like to send our appreciation. this was, I was very nervous going to this episode because you literally gave me three fucking submitted questionnaires, my friend. And that was so, so much of a, and I, I, we've had, I understand why and how and all that. I'm just glad that we were able to morph this into one of the most fun podcasts I've had in a few months. Like, this is just three dudes just talking, shooting the shit. And I, I said the same thing, but I already know you too. So, I said the same thing to Morgan. I was like, there's no information.

I've maybe met this guy for 10 minutes in my whole life. I'm like, I'm, I'm kind of nervous. And she was like, you're going to be fine. Yeah, that makes trice of us because I was definitely, definitely nervous. And that's an understatement, honestly. Knocked it out of the park. Going back to the antisocial stuff, like, yeah, I probably just. Well, I mean, let's put you on the, you at least made the Mount Rushmore of Phillips

and Phillips adjacent guests that we've had because, let's see, right? I don't even think we have an alien face yet, so you're definitely on the Mount Rushmore. story idea put it up as a poll after this one's released Matt Rushmore of Phillips episodes and tag of all I can't do that

I don't like being mean Oh the I'm gonna see Did I The Rose and Jenny thing And it'd be it I think Jenny won Like being the biggest villain But it was like

It was only by like 10% or something So enough people maybe Even it was 20 That still showed that like It wasn't the majority It wasn't like 90% to 10% it was definitely like a 70 30,

65, 35 kind of deal. So enough people still thought Rose is a villain to make me happy. And big jury wanted to like argue with me and the thing. And I was just like, I'm not going to like regurgitate what I said on the podcast.

Go listen to the fucking podcast and then come talk to me after you hear my opinion. I was like, I will love to have, I will discuss with this with you. But not if you haven't listened to the podcast yet. We're already like, I'm not going to type that three paragraphs out of why I felt the way I felt. Right.

But yeah, this was awesome. Anything else you wanted to touch base on or remind people of or anything you wanted to, we'll get into, you know, your personal stuff, but anything, any big things you wanted to plug or any shoutouts or anything. No, no, I'm just, I'm not sure what to do with my hands with this strong man competition coming up here, but. I mean, use two of them on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, right. Sunami bar. Use one on the circus and two on the log again. Yeah, good, that's good tips. No, but I'm kind of excited.

I'm excited to do it, and I'm excited to talk about a Phillips takeover, you know, like four of us doing Strongman. So that actually is really cool. Hannah's Phillips adjacent pretty much at this point by common law. I don't think they're going to get married. I think they're about as married as they're going to get probably, it seems like. People keep asking them if they're going to get married at the Lvitaivian. It's like, my question, my Uno reverse question. to them is like, well, do you want to get married?

Because you shouldn't, if you don't. So if you do, great. Everybody will have a great time. Yeah, they're a good couple. They work out. They're doing what they're doing. Right. Big Jonathan, one more time.

Where are they going to find you up? On Instagram at Bo and me. And then on Discord at Big Johnny P. Do you? Joey, where you at? I'm somewhere on the Discord. I'm sure you can find me. And Instagram, Joey underscore Mlesco, MLEC-Z-K-L.

Fun fact, before you get into that, I was looking in Apple Podcasts and reading the transcripts. And it spells my name wrong when I do that. So we got that going for us. Oh, M-L-E-Z-C-Z-C-J-E. Yeah. What does it do? I don't remember, but I think it does the M-L-E as like Emily.

Oh, yeah. I can see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That actually would be funny. Get a screen, get a screenshot of that. Yeah, I'll see if I can find it again, but I was looking back.

No, because on Apple podcast, you can do the transcript. Oh, okay, okay, because I was trying to find something somebody said. Yeah. A lot of people post the ones now where it's like the,

the subtitles essentially are going. No, that's what, yeah, that's it. That's the transcript. Oh, okay, but it's like, but it's in real time, right? Yeah.

So I would, I mean, yeah, transcripts of whichever, but like, I think it was big, uh, Big Chad, who likes to be called CJ, but it doesn't tell anyone.

So big, big CJ Chad there, had posted one. And I think it was me talking because it was like, maybe, but it was like a very firm, annoyed opinion about something. Essentially about people not putting in the effort or something like that. I was like, that has to be. Like, I'm the only one that says that. Like, I'm the only one that's mad at lazy crew. So it's like, I don't have any memory of this reference.

And he couldn't, he couldn't refresh my memory. So I was kind of like, damn, I wanted to know, that's the worst part about doing these episodes. especially the one last week because we recorded like a week, like five days early. So like listening back to people having the banter on our chat. And I'm like, maybe I should have listened to that episode. I don't remember like all these references like outside of like the bigger points, like little things when they're like, oh, I really thought it was funny when this happened. I'm like, ha, that sounds funny, but I don't remember.

But I don't know. Maybe I need to dive back into listening to our episodes. But it's just, you're right. That is funny. I hope it was me. I don't know. I'm curious if Tommy's ever listened to their. I know.

I think Tanner might listen to their own stuff. Maybe I'm curious if Tommy listens. Maybe he does it when he just has to edit the YouTube video. It's kind of funny you brought that up in sort of way because when we left Crew Falls, we left Tommy's garage and all that chalk aftermath. I hit Tommy with, on the way out, I hit him with, you know, I meant to talk to you about your pest control, but I just ran out of time. And he looked at me like, what the hell are you talking about?

So the joke didn't land. So then it was just anyway. He finally ended up realizing what I was talking about. And he was like, oh, at that point, it was not funny, you know. That is actually, that is really funny. I do think there, it's, it's hard, though. You're so involved in something to then, like, I wish I could be a fly. Like, I would, this would be my favorite podcast to listen to if we didn't, like, if I wasn't on it.

Like, because it's, it's what we like. Like, I want to learn about my friends. Like, like, it'd be, I. It would be full to do it vicariously through some other host maybe, but like, it's hard to do it twice in the same. It's hard to like listen to the same fucking episode where we just did and like put all this energy into to then just turn around and just do it. And for the first six months, maybe even, I wouldn't say a year. The first several months, I did listen to every episode. But I think that's what I still, I was still nervous and was, I think we were trying to learn how the podcast.

So we were like, oh, this was stupid. This didn't work. But that did. But I feel like, what? we do now is we're going to do it the way we want to do it no matter what at this point. So like listen to ourselves. Right. So.

You froze a bit there. I was going to say it's, it's like when you're a chef, you taste your own sauce, but not when you have the recipe down. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Get things smooth, smooth out.

You just roll with it. Indeed. So we have the Instagram, unpaid and underrated. Unpaid and underrated podcast. Yes. Website, unpaid internpodcast.com. I really wish we could buy the rights to unpaid and underrated podcast or unpaid and underrated.com or something. You know, nobody type in all that.

True, but unpaid intern, like, is that your guys' podcast? So, like, the new people, but I don't think anyone ever goes to the website. I would fucking link the website every goddamn time. I don't have anyone ever goes to it. Unless I'd beat you to it. Yeah. Which is sometimes that's nice. It takes a little bit off my plate, for sure.

Every now and then, like, I was up at like 3.30 there day. I was like, I'm going to post this before him. Fucker. Because it's like a little, like, I think I woke up to just take a piss. I wouldn't even up for the day yet because my schedule. I'm literally up between four and six. Like, and it, it, I don't, my, my start time varies by job. Is it varies that much?

Yeah. Well, it's because I, I might have a three hour commute. I might have a two hour commute. I might have a one hour commute. But I get paid door to door. So, like, I'm not having to, like, drive and unpaid. Literally, I'm literally not driving unpaid. It's very, it's very underrated to drive paid.

I was going to say, yeah. I will, to such base. I think I meant to put this in the general topics that I might have slipped out. I know if anyone's noticed, I've been. doing these story highlight, what is it, like a spotlight, if you will, where you can share someone's profile, but it's not just tagging them.

It's like this big, nice, like it does like a screenshot of their essential front page. I feel like that might help our guest. And like if I do like a, crew spotlight, get some more followers versus just a picture and then tagging them because I don't think anyone ever clicks on a tag or understands that you can click on the highlighted name.

And especially when it's like, if you don't make it really big, it's hard. But doing this, sharing the profile, itself and just anything you click on that whole page takes you right to their profile because I did it for Hogan the other day when he was trying to get all the new followers. And he said he got like 10 new followers out of doing it like that. And I know I've done it before and he got like

one. So I think I'm going to do it for the guest each week. I might start doing it for birthdays or if something cool happened. You know, it's not going to be the supporting your supporting member thing. But occasionally I might do that. And I might, I was even debating of going back through because there's so many new people that for sure didn't listen to episode one to 100 that we put out. and maybe like, you know, start with Damager and then go to Scants and like just once a week, link the old episode and just like that guest profile just to help this melting pot of crew kind of not forget our founding fathers maybe because a lot of those guys, maybe not as inter-interactive as the newer crew and just kind of want to keep everyone in the circle. I think I would make the argument that the ROI on that would be low. Yeah. But it'd be more of a if I have time thing to.

Yeah, yeah. Don't put, don't put too much timer effort into that. Yeah, I won't like spreadsheet OCD it, but at least I'm going to, at minimum, I'm going to do it for the, this is this week's guest, click on their profile and actually do the pay, like the full share, not just. I don't know what's going on with Instagram. I got 10 new followers in two days. And they're real. Like, I'm not including the bots. Yeah, I'm hit or miss on who I haven't. I haven't posted in a week. That's why the post the other day was. like, I guess I have to post my deadlift because I don't know why any of you are here at this point. So I, I know, Instagram's weird like that. So anyway, we got the Instagram, we got the website.

We got a YouTube and I am Keith Honeycut 73 on Instagram. More importantly, go follow my orange gym than a wine seller. Until then, see you next Tuesday.