Unpaid And Underrated - 141 : Log Clearance (ft. Big Matt)

Episode Date: January 20, 2026

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Matt. They dive right into great topics like strongman, books, Panera, Coffee, and being bearfoot. Links Ü&Ü Hoodie (https://www.sellmytees.com/festrengthlab/store/product/u-u) Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab (https://www.massenomics.com/shop/unpaid-underrated-tee) Get Your Own Keith Head (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/articles/keith-head) Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast (https://www.instagram.com/unpaid.underrated.podcast/) Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com (https://www.unpaidinternpodcast.com/) On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast) Our Guest On Instagram @stallmatstall (https://www.instagram.com/stall_mat_stall/) Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 (https://www.instagram.com/keithhoneycutt73/) or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar (https://www.instagram.com/thenowhinecellar/) @joey_mleczko (https://www.instagram.com/joey_mleczko/) Special Guest: Big Stall Matt.

Everybody, welcome to Unpaid and Underrated. Episode 42 of Unpaid and Underrated podcast for crew by crew, relentlessly mocked by crew, hosted by crew, plagued by crew. I don't know. This is the crew podcast. I am one of the hosts Big Joey, joined by Big Keith over there. Howdy, howdy. And joined by Big Matt Stoll, Matt, Matt Stahl. stall mat. All the stall mats. Better than all the mats, at least.

Oh. So many of you. All right. Anybody drinking anything cool? No, just the old purple something or other water, though. Got a Wegman's Blackberry Tangerine. Oh. I do love my some Wegmans.

That sounds delicious. I have a drink with a story. I really wanted this cherry Pepsi, like really badly. And I went to go to the fridge and I dropped it. And it popped and fizzed all over the kitchen. So I'm drinking the flat, half-ass end of a cherry Pepsi.

I was kind of bummed. I really wanted that cherry Pepsi. Shouldn't have fizzed all over the place. Anyway. I think me and Keith are matching today. Oh, no, no, I'm wearing Tanner's favorite. I'll go, no show. Mine finally arrived. It only took about 29 days.

I do like that shirt. I know we always joke that all the blanks are the same. That is my favorite blanket. It's thinner, but like a tight neck. I hate a big floppy neck on a shirt. So it's just, it was the perfect combination for me, at least the one that I got. Everyone else's blank might be different, but mine's good. I actually dislike the neck. It's too twait, too twight. I feel like I'm being slowly suffocated by a small child. maybe I like just being choked I guess I don't know it's not Saturday

what about you Matt it's the weekend though I put my 40 and I'm on it's fucking it's Friday night for me oh he's got the Peyton underrated he does got the zip I mean I wish it was in a crew neck

but yeah I actually have the crew neck too wow double dipping I love it I love it I love it there's a good that's good stuff it's good to be a supporter we don't get a whole lot of guys

that haven't been on the podcast, I'd already have our merch, so it's pretty dope. I'd like to see that. Yeah, I like how you were like, oh, when we met two months ago,

you weren't really a listener, and now he's got the banner and two sweaters, and he's on the podcast. You say, I motivate people, apparently. Yeah.

It's a good guy. Yeah, they're like, is this guy such an asshole on podcast as much he is in real life? I got to listen to that. No, I'm,

I'm, depends. Like, I have my moments. I thought, not that we had a good little shit. I was kidding. I braved my freezing cold garage.

Yeah, I didn't. You were, so we'll probably get into it a little. So Big Matt here, he's the guy that I ended up picking up my Mars bar from a couple months ago. And it was, maybe it was three or four months ago, but it was not a warm day.

It was October 25th. Probably. And he was in his garage barefoot the whole time. And we shot the shit for well over an hour, right at around an hour. And I'm just like, this son of a bitch is just, Barefoot, not wearing socks, just like on a, you know, alternating between on the concrete and on the saw mat.

And I'm just like, he didn't have, you didn't even have slippers on. Big bearfoot guy? Unless you did. Maybe I'm misremembering. I could have swore you were barefoot. Maybe. No, no, I was barefoot. I've just used it out here.

That's brutal. That's why I made the joke on the story repost that, like, you're recording in your gym. And it's got to be, even if you hit that heater pointed at at you, I know it's 15 degrees down there. That's what it is out here, give or take. If I leave the garage door closed, it's not so bad. That was a garage door open day, which made it rough. That tracks. That makes sense.

Well, enough to about this guest, we might get on. We got some general topics to get through first, and when we'll deal with the guest. It's kind of funny, though, as we look through the list, I feel like last week, we had about, like, 11 days between recordings. So we had, like, 17 things to talk about. And this week, it's just been a regular week, and we've got, like, two things. And, like, they're not even, I got a funny story real quick. So we got Wendy's last night. and I got a frosty.

And I put it in the freezer. Actually, I was going to eat it. And it was, uh, it was, it was already frozen because it was like 20 minute or it was already starting to thaw. So it was like a 20 minute drive from home or whatever. So Stephanie was getting up since she, I politely asked and she usually, she would tell me to go fuck myself, but she gracious, like, yeah, I'll put it away for you. So she put it in the freezer.

So like a half hour later, hour later, whatever it was. I was like, oh, I forgot that had my frosty. I was to go get it. I open it up and immediately it falls on the floor. But there's like, like, like my cherry Pepsi. Yeah. So I was like super. know I did that, but then I was like, I was looking and I'm like, there's hardly anything in here.

Like, there was like almost no mess to clean up. So then I like, I looked to my left and then like in the freezer door, there was like a box of ice cream sandwiches. And like 80% of the frosty was just like stuck to that, frozen to that because it had like fallen on to the door from the inside. And the rest was like in the freezer, like in the grooves and stuff. And I was just like, are you fucking kidding me? So we, we essentially just laughed at that and cleaned it up for a good 10 minutes. But it was, it was just amusing because like she thought I, I thought I did it at first. And I remember that she was the one that put it back in there,

but I couldn't really be mad because she did it for me. So it's kind of that like on thin ice already situation. So, but I don't know, maybe it was more funny in person, but it was pretty funny because just looking over and seeing half my goddamn milkshake just sitting frozen on a box of something else. I was like,

uh, I guess that's what happened. Yeah, even if it hadn't tipped over, does a frosty ever come back to like the right viscosity? No, it's got to move. That's the point.

It's got to be moving to maintain its frostiness. Yeah, it was going to be. more of like like hard chunky ice cream at that point but I would have been okay with that because the alternative was when I was trying to eat it it was like airy cream it was like it was almost warm like whipped cream and I'm like no I want a fucking I want ice cream like I want my chocolate dessert fix and this is not satiating that and then it like 80% of it got you know poured out for the homies so do you do you dip your fries in your frosty I typically would but it

was already so melted that I didn't want to like make a mess while I was trying to eat because it was it was one of those like we didn't anything at the house I was like I'll just I'll stop and get food on the way home and then by the time we got there it was like she was fucking literally hit the door waiting for food starving and I was like oh here it is and uh yeah it was a it was a pretty funny story but yeah frosty's 100% need the fries in them for sure all right yeah see how controversial that is that can't be like it's you know you'll have the Midwest being like what's a frosty and the other half.

Like, how dare you put fries and frosties? Is that when you do circles in the parking lot? Is that a frosty? I'm so confused. It's really a horse apiece. Oh, God damn it, I was going to say that. I had to remember what the fucking phrase was. It's so fucking out of left field.

It's a horse apart. Yeah. One of somethings. That's really funny. Yeah. I got some weird news. down to 150 pound body weight, which is like the lowest I've been in seven to eight years.

Like it was like pretty much since I started working out. You gotta start eating, dude. You got to like, well, no. I saw you hitting some protein powder. So, oh yeah, no, that's happening. I'm actually already on my way back up. But then I hit a Denny PR.

Yeah, I saw that. What? Like, Steve came over and it was supposed to be a delode. And Strongman Deload on Juggernaut is don't work out and go take care of yourself. But it was strong man Sunday. So I was like, okay, you guys are coming over. Let's, yeah, deal with the boys. That's just not a thing. Yeah, I'll do some stuff, but like, I'm not going to go crazy. And I ended up trying 240 per hand, so 480. And it went up so smooth and easy. Steve was like, and I was like, because I've been chasing 500 pounds on the day for years. And I, and I pulled it.

And I actually think I had more in me. Just I wasn't going to do that after doing 500. Like if I was going to do more, I would have done the 480. And then go to 515 or something. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I wasn't going to do. 510. Yeah, no, I wasn't going to do that.

So, like, something's up. Something's getting, like, as much as I'm down body weight and feeling smaller and weaker, my bench has gone down, my squats gone down, my deadlift has gone down. But apparently everything else is going up. So that's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. So it was a big fun.

I do. Yeah, I saw that. I saw that. I was like, oh, sweet. I mean, my, I mean, my, I mean, it's, it bad that my initial thought was like I got to go to 505 now but then I was like I haven't done dinnies in so long that like I think my I think I've only ever done 200 a hand but it was like for time. I never had to go above that. I just had to like hold it for 20 or 30 seconds or something. I'm like maybe 500 but I also don't want to rip my fucking hook. I don't want to hook. I don't want to hook. I haven't barbell hook grip in a minute. Like so or I haven't hook grip. I haven't hook grip. I haven't hook grip. I haven't hook grip. That wasn't even hook grip. But you can still see. the bruises on my hands from when I did it. Because it just bruised all up here.

That's wild if you didn't hook, that's actually more impressive. You didn't hook? It's like, you're supposed to hook grip, Denny's like, that's what everyone does? I guess.

I did not. Yeah, as long as you didn't wear straps. I had a buddy that wore straps just because he, more he just wanted to like, see if he could pick it up. But like, you know,

obviously it doesn't count with straps in that scenario for what you're trying to attempt. So, yeah, that's pretty nifty. Uh, I got a,

uh, not sports and books, but I got a book some books update. I finally am up to date on Red Rising. I know that's a big, big, big, big,

popular crew book series. I think it was book six with the seventh coming out this summer. So it's kind of perfect timing. The original trilogy was really, really good. And then like books four, five, six,

eh, book four was ass. Book five was a little better. Book six was a little bit better than five. It's kind of like a progressively gotten better. But it's just like, it's such a big world and there's so many characters. And usually I dig that.

But then they also like just, there's always a new character every other book that's like the new antagonist and it's just like, I don't know. It's been a struggle to keep, and everyone's fucking names are like two syllables apart. There's just like hundreds of fucking characters and I listen to them in audiobooks. And then at one point, I swear, they started like pronouncing names differently on like book five than what a hundred books ever read. So it's just like slightly annoying. But still a good book series. Still do recommend it.

But if you're already like kind of hot and cold on the first trilogy, probably just stop there. Like Tanner might not be the guy that wants to read book four, five, and six because I think he stalled out in book two like months ago. So definitely finish it, but don't know if you need to go past that unless you're just really like the series. And then today, I usually don't do a ton of standalone books. I mean, I usually am a big series guy.

I just like, I like investing my time in something that's more than just like, you know, an eight hour audio book or like a, you know, a week read or whatever. But I did The Martian. I think I still have like the last couple chapters. but it was one of my favorite, well, you're not favorite movies, but it was definitely one of the better space NASA slash movies I've ever seen.

I remember even watching it. I still remember watching it like a decade ago when it came out because it was, we were having a snow day at work while I was out of towns. We just got stuck in the hotel and I just happened to have it downloaded. And I was like, oh, I'll watch this. And it still like takes with me. So I'm going to finish the book this weekend.

And then I'll probably rewatch the movie because it has been a decade since I watched it. But so far, usually like there's a lot of differences and you kind of like really love one or hate the other. or kind of, even if you respect both, but you just look at them as two entirely different entities. I mean, it's been so long since I watched the movie,

but like they're pretty, I have no qualms about the book so far, and it's almost over. And I would, if I had to pre-rate it, I would definitely go, like, you know, good reads doesn't do half points.

So I am going to rate it a four out of five, but to me, it's probably a four and a half. Like, I've enjoyed it that much. And that's coming from a guy that doesn't like standalone books very often. So I think Tommy,

a bunch of people in crew have talked about reading that recently, too so that kind of motivated me so and it would just happen to be downloaded to my computer I'll watch this or listen to that so yeah I have not read any of what you said for Christmas I got a copy of the

first edition like not the first published edition but like the first first version of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein so I'm probably going to read that soon it's the it's the op oh that movie was amazing the Netflix one that was out

I think yeah the game of the heroes yeah Yeah, I watched that. Maybe when I, whenever I flew last, I think. I don't remember where was that. Crew Falls, maybe? I don't know. Somewhere. So, yeah, I'm not going to read The Martian or Red Rising.

I'm going to read a book 200 years old or something. There you go. Not in the show notes, but we do got to the YouTube video this week was Big Ho's Jay's Jim. I didn't think I'd get a chance to watch it, but it was, you know, because it was like, I had an hour and a half before we had to record. And I didn't want to be like, hey, Stephanie, I'm going to watch this. And she kind of was zoned out in her phone.

there for a minute. It was like, oh, I'm going to squeeze this in real quick. So I think I got to, did I watch all of it? If I didn't watch all of it, I watched 99% of it. But yeah, very good tour. I was looking forward to then, I think in Discord they had talked about how Tanner was using Jose's like arm trainer. And at one point they, excuse me, they did a like a green screen and put him in the beach or in like waves or something. So that was really funny. So if you haven't watched it, just, you know, at least look out for that scene. It's pretty funny. But yeah, Jose, met him at home gym con this year. Good dude. I actually, I'm 90% sure he is the guest next week or the week after.

I think it is next week, though. So it's kind of cool to be like, oh, I get to talk to him in like a week or two in depth about his life. So tune in for that, ladies and gentlemen. Was that No way, Jose? No way, Jose, no, no, it was not Norway Jose. It was Boston, Jose. Big Boston.

So he's a little, yeah, because ironically, they both like kilos, so we'll talk about that next week. Yeah, and then, yeah, go ahead. He was very enthusiastic. And like, being someone who's been, I've worked in cold water and trained in cold water a lot when he said, oh, yeah, it's no colder than, you know, going snow skiing. I'm like, you're out of your mind. Although he's probably doing something more fun in the water being surfing, but cold water is still cold water. Yeah, and he probably had a wetsuit on. Yeah, no, he does.

But even like he was even, he has like a winter wetsuit and then like a summer wetsuit and then, but like that still doesn't like, I don't know, your face is still freezing. even with like the head cover and shit. So you're in your hands. You're not wearing, I don't know if you're out there wearing gloves. So you're definitely not wearing socks and shit. So it's definitely still cold as shit. Surfing socks.

That's, yeah. He's got to get those surfing socks. He did have a, he did have a sex wax banner in the back. And all I think of was like the point break movie, like the first time I like knew anything. It's like my first experience prior to surfing was point break.

So and then there was like a whole joke or a bit saying about like sex wax and stuff. So I enjoyed the sex wax banner. Yeah, and if you don't know what that is, that is such a weird-ass name. Yeah, outside of knowing that it was something to do with surfing, but I don't, is it the name? I actually don't. It's a board wax. Okay, but it's just, but why is it called sex wax?

Like, that is someone to answer that in the Discord divorce this week. I don't know that, but it's just one of those. You hear sex wax and you're like, sorry, come again? Yeah. Is that like, well, yeah. You know, the candles, you know, make my nipples hard probably. Wow. The comparison from that video of the wax to nerling and chalk was also pretty great.

That was great. And then Jose said, well, it's like nerling and chalk. That was really good. But I did learn about like the different. So similar to tacky, the boards, depending on the condition, you would use to different wax. Because like in the seasons, if you have a certain wax in the cold water, it's not going to work as well versus hot. warmer water, et cetera. So that was interesting to learn.

All right. So Keith is now a sex wax expert. Yeah. Jeez, you can't say that phrase three times fast. Sex wax expert. Sex wax expert. Yeah, I can. Okay.

What if you say gay bros three times? That got some leverage. Usually we don't harken back to last week's episodes, but God damn, that got some, that got some mileage this week. Well, and I forgot about it. That was what killed me. When generally he posted of a picture of her crying. And then I had to think about it for a second.

I was like, oh, she's crying, laughing so hard. Well, it was Grayson being like, he just posted, don't, don't, don't. Yeah. And then I was like, what is that in reference to? I didn't even, I didn't even posted the picture. That's hysterical. Because that's what I said to you. Like, I saw your face.

No, no, you did for sure. I don't, I don't remember seeing Grayson post that. I don't think. I think the first thing I saw was generally. But yeah, that was, that was great. It definitely caused some good conversation this week. And I had people, random people, DM and me like thinking that I was just trying like thinking that I was made like no I'm not making I'm not like using this as a way to say gay bros I it's literally just something that like because then you get people that have agendas and want to talk to me like no don't don't talk to don't talk to me about that like we're not here to like make people feel bad or judge people it was just fucking ironic and funny yeah what did you say yeah that was all that was the funny part where it ended don't make it political or anything it's just funny yeah some some people can't help it some people ain't happy unless they're unhappy

Yeah. Do you want to rate last week's episode? Yeah, Big Matt, once you remind us what last week still is, because I still got, I think I had the pre-show in my head now, so I got to try to reminisce here. Yeah, the, the Powell Dwyer tribute,

which I thought was really nice. Like, obviously with the delay, we've seen so much of it, and we've seen so much about on social media, but I thought they handled it in a really good way and brought me back to that episode. The broken toilet and Jim Rance,

or I can't imagine, dealing with all that and dealing with these animals who occupy these gyms and more talk about the new cryptic big thing building up all the the tension and anticipation there and when he brought up the which plate do unload first thing

that speaks to me I don't have room to mount mine behind my rack and I am very much always furthest away from the plate rack every time so it was I thought it was a great episode I rated it five out of five broken toilet seats. Nice. The play rack thing had me think in there for a second, too, because I was like, most of my, I pretty much,

there's not a lot of places in my gym where I do have that scenario. Maybe when I deadlift, but I, I think I just go one at a time. Like, are there people, like, I mean, I guess that's part of it, but like, I'm not taking two or three plates off and then getting the other two or three. It's just, I, I didn't, I couldn't think of a solid answer. It's, like, kind of like, Tommy couldn't. So, like, I think I'm just going to have to pay attention.

Because, like, all my squat racks for the most, well, I don't know. I really got to think about that one next time I train. Tommy having the epiphany essentially or basically, so I've been in, you know, a lot of it's been in this game for well over a decade. So, like, I've had the conversation 100 times about the difference between an Ohio Power Bar and Texas Power Bar with people. I've helped dozens of people buy bars and stuff over the years and, like, given the same, like, everything Tommy said, I've had that conversation at least 50 times in my life

with other people, either in person or in DMs. And so it was just really funny for Tommy to kind of like 10 years later experience this, it seems like. So I just, I found that to be very amusing, but kind of cool. And then anytime Tanner says fuck in an angry manner, especially when it's towards people, it's one of my favorite things ever. So him, then the gym rant was fucking classic. So I'm going to give it five out of five Tanner fucks. Wow. Yeah, definitely enjoyed the episode, as I always do.

I did laugh at the gym drama and he did say he might have an idea of who it is so I guess that's going to become another in person only story that that you know the only time somebody's been kicked out of the gym

dealing with burnout they it was like the title topic but they kind of breezed through it like it wasn't the main character of the episode at all I will say there is one other thing

that if you're sick of powerlifting, stop doing it. Right? Spoon, you remember Big Rich Spoon? He posted something from somebody and it was like, if you're sick of doing the same thing over and over again and going to meats does not thrill you anymore,

stop doing it. Do something else. And like that can also fix that burnout. Right? You're sick of doing that? Do something else. Right? So I understand that their burnout was different, but that burnout was what got to me was I was just sick of doing SBD constantly.

So I'm going to go ahead and give that five out of five Ohio Power Pars. Nice. I do always find it funny. Like, you know, they obviously have to have stuff to talk about. But like a lot of times I'm like, they're talking about stuff that then they essentially like, we've never experienced this. But this is why we probably haven't. So it's like, I've never had depression. let me tell you why you shouldn't be depressed.

It's like, it's like, what would be cool, I guess, sometimes? Like, I mean, they can do whatever the ones there, podcasts, but like in the title topics, like, I mean, then you're getting back to bringing guests on. But like, source the crew because like, they could have been like, hey, crew give a, because they used to, they used to a lot of times like, hey, what are your questions for the guests? So like, four title topics, preemptively, maybe ask for some information from us, but then they would they want to keep it organic. And also the title topics usually are just so they can have a title of the episode and they're not really what the episode's about. So it's probably not relevant. But like, or even like, like, I don't know, get a, it'd be cool to hear any one of our friends get on the podcast for 10 minutes and talk about burnout. Like, who actually is going, actively going through burnout and, like, had like a deep, like, fucked lifting kind of burnout.

And then like how they got back from that potentially. So I think that would have been cool. I'm not saying that I don't love what they do, but like, I don't know. But then it's also, then you're fucking coordinating schedules and shit and people are fucking annoying. and don't answer their phone when they're supposed to, et cetera. So I get why they don't do it, but like, I don't know, any more crew interaction would be cool in the podcast. But it is funny when they do title topics and then also essentially say,

we've never, we don't know anything about this, but we're going to tell you about our opinions. Looking forward to the high rocks episode. Yeah, but always good. Do you get some affiliates for us, Joey? Yeah, buddy. Obsidian ammonia right now. Any of your orders from the New Year's sales should be going out?

Uh, big ups to Travis. He's going through, uh, some of his brain stuff again this week. Uh, code unpaid at hypedust.com. Um, plate snacks, of course, most of you are already using it. Matt, I can see you used it for that banner. Use it for your stickers. Code unpaid. Uh, if you don't have, here that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Like, here's another thing, too. Um, this podcast is like gone a little bit from like, loving AI to kind of shitting on AI a bit. if you need a gym logo and you want to use AI, go ahead. It's probably fine. But if you don't, the guys over at plate snacks will help. It might not be the cheapest design you get.

I don't know if he even charges for it. But you can ask. Hey, I need a gym logo. Here's the name I'm thinking about. Here's the design I'm thinking about. Do you have something for me? And not only will he help you design it. he'll print it and send it to you so you can send it to me so you know the more the more people

aren't the better uh and of course code unpaid at belt fed strength uh chris love you i hope you're listening and uh you know you need some leather lifting equipment handmade premium made american made go over to belt fed strength my favorite is uh i think i think it was the live this week so next week's episode uh he like it's like the second or third time I'm, he's called Tanner out specifically, and I was like, I want Chris to buy me, or he'll want Chris to build a goddamn dip belt for us. Like, not a dip test, dip belt attachment, but a goddamn dip belt so we can buy a nice custom dip belt. Or he's just, I don't know, I don't know that Christmas between belt fed and black iras. I don't know how much podcast consuming he's doing, but I just, I find it funny.

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Nice callback. We got to looky lose. We got to kick out. Oh, yeah. No, actually, who would be kicking out this week? Nobody. Let him stay. No, no, well.

You can stay. We got to say it. You're not going to kick anybody out, but we've got to say it. It's funny. All right. Speaking of coughing into the microphone, going through the back catalog, Tanner is clearly sick,

I think, on episode 152 or 153, and just blown his nose. Throughout the whole episode. So anytime Tommy's talking, you can just hear the snot rocket's going off in the background. Prior to knowing how to use a mute button. Yeah, just honking them. Yeah, can you tell that I have like an actual microphone at work? So I go like, I keep going like this instead of just muting my audio every time I cough.

Oh, yeah. You'll see me, you'll see me mute like that. If I, I just missed it that time because the cough snuck up on me. but yeah I was just hearing and blowing those snout rockets it was pretty funny should we get our guest on the horn yeah big Matt you there buddy

come you there hello hello yeah Matt yeah hey I'm here we have one of the mats well go ahead and introduce yourself tell us you name who you are where you front oh no well I always fucking get god damn that's like the third time I've done that

who are you where we're gonna find you I am one of the mats best place is uh stall mat Geez, Matt Stoll, Matt Stahl on Instagram. I forgot my own Instagram for a minute there.

Instagram is challenging at times, that is for sure. All right. Well, you're a relatively new face. So what brought you to Massonomics? I had always kind of, it was one of the podcasts that I would slide into every now and then. I had my stable of podcasts I would listen to all the time. And probably like a lot of people came, really started listening with the gym tours, being a fellow home gym nerd.

and then realized that a lot of the podcasts I was listening to, they were politics, they were current events, and it was just kind of bumming me out. And this place is so positive, and we talked about burnout from the last episode, kind of shifted the direction of my training and things like that from talking to people here, and it became between unpaid and massonomics,

it's the two podcasts that I listen. to and I'm just burning through back catalog at this point. I love it. That makes me very happy. What speed are you consuming? I'm a 1.3. It's not horrible. Even on the new episodes?

Like I just everything across the board? No, no. New episodes are just one. But back catalog, I'm just doing a 1.3. That's fair. That's not bad. That's that's, I mean, that's, that's not too bad, I suppose. No, everything at 1.3 all the time.

for me at least, even new episodes. To the point, get to the point. Well, I know where you live, but you want to tell the listeners where you're from? Yeah, fellow upstate New York, which New York, just enormous state. You can't even believe how big it is. So me and Keith are both upstate New York, but we're probably 12, 13 hours away from each other. But I'm right by the Pennsylvania border, which I still consider upstate just because it's not. New York City or Long Island.

Fair. How does that work? He's exaggerating. It's not 12 hours. It's also not upstate. Upstate, yeah, I mean. Because wouldn't upstate New York be like closer to Canada? So they say, they say like, I might be like central New York. Yeah.

I feel like people an hour north of fucking New York City say upstate New York, though. Yes. So anything that's not New York City, I mean, because then you could say, I've seen fucking memes about there's Western New York. central New York, there's fucking upstate New York. It's all, everything in not New York City is fucking good to me. So what's Midwest New York? And is it Ohio?

Western, Northeast, South New York. Midwest would probably be like Sarah, like Dan probably lives in Midwest. I mean, what I guess you would too, but you're like south though. So it's like, yeah. I think Midwest New York would be somewhere between Syracuse and Rochester. Yeah. Once you get Buffalo, like, I don't consider Rochester, Western New York. But then, like, Buffalo is Western New York.

They consider that Western New York. Buffalo, like, is the Ohio of New York. I've been there. I would say Buffalo is the Ohio of New York. But, yeah, anyway, do you know your Hall of Fame status, including today? Today brings me to four. I was lucky enough to get my voice on the podcast for the call-in episode. Hell is.

I woke up just in time for that. And, uh, as you should. one piece of massonomics merch. Now, I want to point out, we've been asking this question for probably 120 episodes out of the 141 that we've done to the point that they've brought back

some of the stuff we talk about. I want to point that out. They really, really have. I'm not going to say we did it. You know, mission accomplished or whatever. But there's a reason that we've been asking this question every episode. So what piece of massonomics merch

did you miss out on? I'm going to cheat. I have two. The kind of fit, kind of fat, collab with the beer and the pizza like that. That's right in my demo. And the flex flask.

If they brought the flex fast back, I would buy many of them. As he drinks from the carabiner. Carabiner, yeah. drinks about her, yep. All right.

So I've been to your gym. I don't remember. Was it certified when I was there? It is. Yeah. Nice. Nice. Okay.

Was it certified then, though? I'm trying to remember. It was. It became, I got the CTF, like, maybe even before I was a sporting member. Okay, yeah. You're one of those guys. Yeah, one of those. These home gym guys that just flooded into messnobics. I'm just picturing there has to be all of these crew members who go to a gym and don't have a home gym. We're like, oh, my God, would you stop talking about these home gyms? I'm so happy with my gym to stop.

but. Lies. You are not, you are not happy in your own at Jim. But what's that? You just don't know any better. That's what's the CTF's name?

Matt Stoll, Matt Stahl. Oh, okay, so original with the Instagram. Which actually I'm not even mad because at least you're consistent across the board a couple places, but the same thing instead of having a different fucking this and a different that and a different, everything else. So there have, there have been guests you've been mad at that you're like your home gym name sucks?

no no I'm talking about like well sure I'm just referencing people that can't fucking like last week for example like Jonathan having like seven different handles like couldn't find Jonathan anywhere because he has a different fucking name on every platform got it like just yeah no people can name their gym whatever they want there's already there are some ones I just it's like it was that supposed to be funny I don't get it but I take them too serious so it's oh yeah I don't. That definitely shows. At least yours has a name though.

Oh, that's fair. Like, it's, and it's original. Some of them, they're just like, I asked Chad GPT for a gym name and this is what it gave me. I feel bad because someone literally said that yesterday. But like, that's cool. You're new to it and you think you got your wife's approval, so you're moving forward. That's cool, but it's like, I don't

know. It's just, it's too important to me to like not put thought into it, I guess. I stub my toe on a dumbbell and whatever came out of my mouth was my home gym name. that would actually be a funny story. I would almost vow. I would respect that because that would be a funny story.

They said the shit fuck damn, Jim. This fucking thing, Jim. Like, Welcome to the motherfucking cunt. This is my gym.

That's actually, next time I hit myself. Like, because I, I, I'm like the worst at walking down the hall and just like fucking swinging my goddamn fingers into it like a door jam at like full speed. Like,

like as you're just walking or like, cutting a corner too tight and you just like bash your hand on the on the door opening and it's just like motherfucker so I could see myself like saying something in the next few days. Maybe I'll finally name the garage now. All right. Well, Big Matt, you actually got a handful of people that submitted some questions for us or some, you know, yeah, essentially. How did you explain you and you? How did you get them to fill this out? How was that whole experience getting all your friends and family to tell us all your dirty secrets?

Well, I gave him a little bit of heads up. I basically told him it's a it's a podcast about training. Luckily, pretty much everybody who interacts with me, not that this is weird coming on here, but they they default to the fact that I'm just a weird guy. So they're like, oh, why wouldn't he be on a podcast and ask me to answer questions about it? So they just default to that and they're like, yeah, sure, whatever. Okay. Sorry, I keep talking, but everything kind of lines up that's my turn.

So are you familiar with least fun, most fun? I am. Do you want to explain it to any of your friends and family that might hear this for the first time? So you give a topic or a situation, and I say the least fun part about it and the most fun part about it. Easy enough. I wasn't sure what to go with here, but I'm going to, I got to give the people what they want. So least fun, most fun, living in New York. Least fun is taxes.

Good call. Yeah. Just the worst. Yeah. And me and my wife both, though, I mean, I guess this falls right in with Texas. So I'm being a hypocrite. We both work in the public sector. And we have great schools where we're at.

So it's, uh, you're, you're welcome. I know I'm riding, I know I'm riding two horses with one ass here. But, uh, you're not the first, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I've, I want to say, I. I remember who it was just going off about it and then also works for the public.

And you're like, Yep. At least I recognize it's not uncommon though. Like a lot of people, like a lot of, I mean, that's really not uncommon. Like most people that work for the government don't do it because like it's for the benefits.

It's not because they want to be public servants. Most fun? Uh, yeah, most fun. Like, like I said, I like the schools and everything,

but I do love that we have all the seasons here. being able to experience like all of that, I wouldn't want to live somewhere that, where you don't get to mix it up. There are days like today when it's like 14 degrees out where I curse that a little bit, but ultimately it's a good thing. You live on,

and it sucks for you to get to places too, because like to go 81 north, it's fucking like you're just, it's the worst. There's the main north-south road to where he's from that would kind of connect him to where I'm at. Well, there's an east-west route also,

but the north-south one I travel a lot for work. And it's, it's a horror. It's one of the worst stretches in the state that I have to drive semi regularly. It's, and it's littered with cops, too. It's, like, it's a speed trap city and it's just the, like, the most hilly, windy part of the state. But, and all the serious, though, on, everyone gives me so much shit for saying New York's big. I get that it's, like, not even in the top half, but it is not a small state. Like, you have to be able to admit that and attest to that.

Especially, like, we are surrounded by small states, so that makes us just feel like it is so much of a bigger state. because I can, I can, it takes me all, you know, it might take me half a day to drive through New York, but then like I go through four other states to, like, if I'm going somewhere, it's like in the same amount of time. Yeah, I'm in Ontario, no sympathy, my friend. 22 hours from one end of the other, relax. Matt's on my side, and he said it's a big state. That's all I heard. It is a big state. It's just, I believe you originally said it's one of the biggest. And that's what everybody was ragged on before.

That would be actually. Like, I wish, if only I could go back and, I don't know. There's no way. I don't know. I would just ride with it. I'd say it's like Alaska on the map where it's just so skewed. It's the shape of the globe. You can't tell, but it's just, it's enormous.

Who was it? It was one of the, one of the anonymous accounts. Was it recent or repeats? I think it was recent. I think I even shared it in a story. He basically, he was referencing Tanner saying that like 20, 28 states were signed up for the Lift Hard Live Easy, and then the asshole said,

and 26 of them are inside New York. Yeah, I saw that. Good stuff. All right, what you got for him? Do you want to go hype person or a training partner? I'm going to go hype person. Yeah, I got to get rid of the training partner one. Nobody goes with that one.

Now, I had answers for both because I thought you were going to force me. But I love being able to have this with my, kids and I know my son's going to listen to this. I love you, buddy, but Ellie, my daughter is my full-time hype person. Partially, she gets very impressed by everything, so it makes me feel very big and strong, but she is so, like, just genuinely, like, excited and motivating. She's, my daughter's, my rider died in the gym. Good answer. Good answer. My kids have finally started joining me in the gym. She comes down a lot now, but Orrin came down for the first time. that wasn't Strongman Sunday and that was kind of nice until they yeah until he he not

saga knocked over my safety bars because I had them up against something and I think it scratched my bells of steel fat bench oh you got a baby proof that place I was a little I was a little mad about that I like it's not her fault no no but it's like oh that's not going to be cheap to fix yeah yeah I have sympathized with the hosts because because I've walked down to some shock disasters down here. And a leaf floor can only do so much. Yeah. Well, Matt, we always give people the opportunity to talk as little or as much as they want to about their career.

So the floor is yours. Yeah, I have worked for a county law enforcement agency for 13 years now. I'm a detective. I love my job. They are annoying and tough days. but in general I love going to work every day. I love my job and very happy to do it. Love it.

Well, as someone that benefits, that could theoretically benefit from your knowledge, I appreciate you. All right, big cheese. How long have you been lifting for? I, oh gosh, really started during my second deployment when I was in Afghanistan. and there was surrounded by people who, a lot of CrossFit people dabbled in that for a little while, but absorbed some knowledge there. And then I was getting ready for the Police Academy,

and I found CrossFit Football, which John Wellborn, that Power Athlete group, and it was an awesome program. Got me really set for the Academy. I stayed with those Power Athlete programs for a while, but I've had a home gym for probably 11 years now. I started off with just the like Dix

sporting goods set, no stands, nothing just doing floor presses and did power lifting for a long time, really enjoyed that and starting to do a transition into dabbling with Strongman. So, and I'm really, really enjoying that. Yeah, you got a,

you're doing, uh, you're doing Dan's meet. That's how you signed up for it here in April, right? I am. I'm like 99% sure I'm going to come out and either help with the meat or help you and, uh, Joe, if need be, just to kind of, you know, go out and support the crew. Yeah, and from watching the stuff with Strongman, and I've had some issues with my elbow, which I blame my having very small childlike hands on a lot of that, but it was kind of hesitant to dip my toe into Strongman and then seeing so much in this community,

legitimately, through Instagram and stuff like that, how, what a fun community it is. I'm very excited, and I'm having a lot of fun doing this. I love it. Have you fixed your axle yet, though? Because I've got a bone to pick with you about your homemade axle that doesn't fit between your floor joists the way it properly should. I am going a counterpoint. I had a horizontal brace in my ceiling joist, which, how safety be darned, I cut that thing out the other day. I'm going to move it.

And it fits, but because I still can't Continental Clean with any decent form, I end up catching the hands. hand that I flip way inside where the hand was. So it shifts to the side. It fits between the joints. I just have to not lift like a moron and actually catch it how I'm supposed to. If you watch in those videos, I end up catching it almost at the middle of the bar and not realizing it. So when I press, that's when I hit. But I probably will still move the sleeves out. Yeah, just a precautionary. Just because you definitely don't want to be banging on those too often. I don't know if you guys have noticed, but Tanner has joined us from the way to room we're not as dentists.

Is that time of the year? Has it been six months since we are our last cleaning? I think Morgan's like, what? He's showing us the, the cuckoo clock as heard on, I believe this was a somewhat recent messanomics episode. They talked about clocks, what didn't they?

Yep. Was that a vivid dream that I don't remember? I remember it, but I've been having between back catalog and new. Yeah, that's, I don't, I don't miss that period of time, I guess, where it was so conflicting of like, where am I in this journey of Masonomics?

Well, I'm at 114, so I can still tell the difference between new and old because Tanner still, or I'm sorry, because Tyler's still there. So. I keep,

there was one thing I was going to make the meme is when you're listening to the back catalog and then you go listen to the new episode that drops and you get the actual intro and you lose Tyler talking. It's like, I remember the first, like,

I think it was this week. I put on the new episode and I was like, yeah, there it is. I didn't have to hear that or the robotic. You just listen to the Masonomics podcast. And we, yeah, skip. With your ears. Skip.

I fell asleep. I must have fallen asleep during the pre-show. Well, I listened to the pre-show and I got a little bit into the episode. And then the next day I know it's like, it's 5 a.m. My alarm's going off and my headphones are still on. Like, and they're on my head and they're still physically like on, like the battery dying. And I'm like, how the fuck did I sleep with these things on for like that?

Like I didn't wake up to piss or anything like for like six hours. And I was just like, that was some good deep sleep. So I was very happy after a couple nights of not getting as much. But it was just, yeah, I'll have most of the podcasts to listen to because I don't think I made it very far. All right. So CrossFit, Strongman. I did see that you were doing some log press. Is that your log?

Oh, I haven't done. I've been doing Axel. I found a gym that I can get to a log at. Okay. And I have, much to my wife's dismay, have been all over marketplace. After that bulldog went for $50. Yeah, thanks, Dan, for his third one. God damn.

And I really don't want to buy the Titan rackable one. I'm not going to do it. No, not. I mean, if one pops up for like a buck 50 locally, I mean, I sold my rackable for like 250, this another guy in Binghamton, which is pretty funny. but yeah, that pit bull, I mean, I've also picked up, I picked up a pit bull for $100 in Syracuse. They are out there.

They're just so hard. They're so, I don't know. It's just, but you've got to get a log, but I don't know if you'll have the clear, because you're, how high is your ceiling? Are you, you have log clearance down there? If I can fit 45s on a bar, I think I can do it. Yeah, but 45s are in the Joyce, though.

Yeah, you're right. You'll stand perpendicular. You might have to stand with the joist, not against the joist. Because I'm having the same struggle of trying to get it to fit. And I can strict press, but that's it. Like, I can't push press or I'm like destroying everything. And I got to see if I get spotter arms for the yoke, I don't mind doing it outside. And I have even more clearance right outside the garage.

So I might try and figure something out. Did you pick up last time? So when I saw Matt, he had just picked up like a literal $200 yoke that's an $800 yoke, but it was missing one of the J-Cups. I'm assuming you have not found a J-Cup replacement yet. I didn't find a single, but I got two of the red rogue, and they are beat to crap, but I don't care. Two of the rogue ones that fit this, and I got them off eBay for like $17. Oh, wow.

So I'm good to go. Literally can't beat that. That's a perfect deal. So great. Love it. Love it. I'm sorry. Tanner's distracting you.

I can tell. She's showing us the tanner. Oh, there's the Peloton. Gameify. Cardio. Let's hear about some of these tattoos. You big tattoo guy. Oh, no.

I have two. It was right before my deployment. I got the birds on my back, ones for because my call sign was Nighthawk 2 during my first deployment. Was that cheesehawk 2?

Having a nickname like cheese in college is perfect. I would say 90% of the people that I knew in college had no idea what my actual government name was, which has a lot of benefits. But got the nighthawk on one side and then a bird on the other for my wife. You didn't say Nighthawk toa. Yeah, tattoos predate the hawk to a little bit. Just a bit, eh?

All right. Okay. The one thing that came up so much that would be silly not to talk about it is coffee. Yeah. I am obsessed. It's a problem. I, again,

it was one of those things when I was deployed because you can't, well, you're not allowed to have alcohol. Sometimes it's stuck this way in. But it became like a process. So like I will admit, and it's not snobbery. I just legitimately don't know how to use a regular coffee maker.

I'm a big pourover guy, but yeah, me and my wife have an unhealthy obsession with coffee. What's your favorite method? It's, I like iced coffee. I do like hot coffee, but if I had my trothers, it's Japanese method iced coffee, which is very, very easy to make. Just with a pourover cone and a kettle, it will be the best iced coffee you have ever had in your life. I'm not big into the ice. coffee. I do have pour over equipment. I still think French press is my favorite, is my favorite method of making hot coffee. If you like French press, have you ever used

an arrow press? Probably not. What's the difference? So an arrow press, it's actually made by the same company that makes the Aroby Frisbee. It's made in America. And it is like a syringe that will give you like three bars of pressure as you press the coffee through. And it's made in And it's like a French press prior to you pressing it, but adding that pressure makes it almost an espresso. You essentially get like an Americano when it comes out. It's really, really good. And it's inexpensive. No, I haven't used that.

I mean, but I also just drink whatever my wife makes. Yeah. She makes it at night and I wake up in the morning all groggy and I push the on button. And then I get that. I did get a nice espresso maker for Christmas, which I rib my wife that she, uh, got me a chore as a gift because I make her macchiados and making my daughter

like all kinds of coffee drinks and everything but I love it and now I notice you're saying espresso not espresso where's the word Nate at? Is Nate in here? You got so mad at me I said it

in the way I'm supposed to well Joey had mentioned something about the on button I believe so as far as the off button I hear that you have one of those in your glass jaw. Oh. I would only, it was submitted like a few different times. So is there, has there been some funny stories of you taking a little,

seeing stars? I got, I got sucker punched in high school. There was a guy who, that's not as funny. I thought it was going to be funny. No, it was kind of funny looking back at it.

And I remember like the police talking to me, like, do you want something to do? I'm like, no, no, no. I just got knocked out. It is what it is. But that's probably what he's talking about. Oh, someone had elaborated. It had multiple times throughout your life that you've, like, maybe not even like fights,

but like have you taken like a blow to the head and just blacked out before? Is that a thing or is this a story not as, maybe I'm misinterpreting it? I did get jumped in college one time and I wish I knew the story, but don't remember a whole lot of it. It took a bad turn. I thought this was going to be a funny segment. God damn. All right. Moving on.

Tragic shenanigans. Let's move on. Yeah. Like, sure not. You're no fun. All of my friends are just like, hey, your CTE was just awesome. That's horrible.

Bring it up. Bring it up on the podcast. Did you listen to the most recent, or well, did you listen to our most recent roundtable with it was the boys and girls there doing the Christmas draft? and have you listened to that one? So, Hogan, Hogan was going in depth about glitter for his reindeer. Did you have any strong opinions about glitter and specifically,

well, specifically glitter? My skin's itching. I hate glitter. My daughter will buy me cards that have glitter. I get gift bags. Who's getting covered. And I already have a husky.

I have enough problems with dark clothing in my life. I get covered in here. I don't need glitter. I do not do glitter. Okay. And good. You're going to

you're going to help me out here. So somebody gets you something. It's like in a gift bag or like a greeting card and not thinking. They handed it to you and you're like, oh, great, thanks. And you pick it up and it's got that damn glitter on it. Like that glitter. Yeah.

And then you put it down and it's on your hands. Ugh. Like I will literally yell. Oh. Glitter. And my wife would be like, oh, no. Because she, like, she knows the, the boiling pot is boiling right now. It's like, like, DNA or trace evidence from CSI.

Once you get that glitter on you, it is with you forever. It never goes away. It's like, it's like, no, honey. I was not at the strip club. Someone just gave me a shitty bag. Shelly presents. Hey, that's actually really funny because I, I have a friend who used to be a stripper. And we were out.

And one guy was like, why do you have? have glitter all over you. Like if he's like, if I touch you now, I'm going to have glitter. My wife's going to think something was up. And I was like, that's why strippers do it, dude. And she looked at me and she was like, yep. And it's like, yep. Like that's part of the reason is so that when you go there, your wife knows. Like anyway, also worse. Like that's also glitter. It's just as bad. But it's to the point now where my like somebody will go to hand me something. And if there's she sees it, my wife will go, no, no, no, don't give him that. because there's that glitter on it that gets in your pores.

Anyway. Well, on a, let's see, under Proud moments we have that you, feel free to elaborate, you don't have to tell the story if it's something you don't want to talk about, but is there an incident where you help save three people? At work, I have a few, they're probably reverts and I have a few lifesaving awards. One of the best moments of my career,

a friend of mine in a training incident, had a medical emergency and was able to do CPR on him, which is something that, as many times as I've done CPR and things like that, you never expect that it's going to be one of your friends. And it was a long road getting him back, but we were able to save him.

It was one of the prouder moments of my career. That's awesome, man. That's very cool. We have this game we like to play. A? No. Why were you, why did you shriek across your high school football field, bud? A friend of mine was in a photography class

and we figured. Oh, so we have documentation. Okay, I guess. Oh, yeah. I guess we know what the thumbnails this week. We were cut loose with this photography teacher. And I was just skipping class to hang out with him while he was at photography. And I know it would be good idea.

why don't I streak across this snow-covered football field? And he got a picture of it and submitted it as a project for class. I don't. Normally we say send us that. Don't send us that one. Yeah. Actually, send it to Keith. Don't, don't.

Yeah, yeah. I'll send you a hand of toes. If I get weird dick picks, I'm sending you a picture of Hannah's broken toe now. I don't want to mail it to Joey because they might have another strike up there and then he'll never. Yeah, never see it in a warehouse forever. Another 20 days in Carroll's dream. Somehow it would leave New York to go to Carroll's dream. So you were talking to a suspect over the PA system once,

and you had their name wrong? Oh, yeah. Yep, that happened. It was during a SWAT incident. We had surrounded the house and was thinking about another target that we were going to be doing a search warrant on. And for about five minutes, I called him the wrong name. just letting the other target know.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you called him Zach, there's probably like an 80% chance. You got it right considering if you look at the Lyft Hard-Live-Z roster with like 17 Zaks on it. I guess, that's a fair guess. Is there a funny story about the scar on your lip? Yeah, I swam. I was a competitive swimmer in high school.

So, like, you know, I know what I'm doing. And we had a local pool that had a pretty rough bottom. and I went to dive in right over the no diving sign and ripped my whole lip in half. And had that all stitched back together. None of your stories are funny, Matt. On the no diving sign? Right over the no diving sign. Oh, that's awesome.

And so now I have a wonky mustache. I could just envision how like, how an abrasive that pole floor had to be, it had to be neural, if you will, or textured like like like the set with sex wax. Yeah, it was more of a. Texas power bar and less of an Ohio power bar. Yeah, Tom and Tommy knows all about those now. Well, at least, at least that awful story, not it was a bad story, but like a bad outcome story, had a lesson.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I still pay attention to like 20% of signs that I see. That's a good average. Was there a door in your high school dorm that said ball pit this way? Oh, yeah. Or a sign.

I think I said a door on your door. Yeah, is there a sign on your door? It was a bad segue to what you did to your dorm. Yeah, we instituted some new rules in the student handbook at Binghamton University and one of them is that you cannot have a ball pit in your room. We were looking at getting like some sort of trampoline.

Obviously, this was a drunken idea so that I could fall out of my second, like my top upper bunk into it. And then we thought, why not a ball pit? So then we had a ball pit. And then the next semester, they said, no more ballpits. No. For these purchased ballpits or were these commandeered ball pit balls from like the local McDonald's

when they used to have like the kids ballpits things. So pre, God, stealing ball pit balls would be something. I think he's been more like passes. And I'm not going to go act shady at a Chucky Cheese because people are going to make it assumptions. Sir, are those balls in your pocket or are you just happy to see these? Like, get out of here. We ordered a box of ball pit balls off of eBay and we couldn't fit

through our door. So they have the safety seals on the windows so kids don't like open them and jump out of them. So we just unscrewed that and just poured it in through the window. So hilarious. Yeah. That had to be a big box. You couldn't physically like fit through the hallway.

It was, we had, they had to call us to come pick it up from somewhere. I don't even remember because they, they wouldn't, they couldn't deliver it to campus because it was like, it couldn't fit it on the truck or something. It was huge. And then what happened with those, like at the end of the semester or whenever they had to move out or, or, well, I guess it sounds like you guys got in trouble with them. So, or you just throwing them like 10. Like, I guess you could, if you cut them with a knife, you could probably get, get them to compress a little bit, maybe? I don't even know. Like, how do you make them smaller or get rid of them?

It was a little by little thing. We lost the war against this inflatable ball pit, too, because we were patching it, like, every couple of weeks. Beer bottles would break in it and stuff. And so eventually, we would just, like, 10 at a time, carry him out to the lobby and throw them out and do the same thing the next day. So there's just, there's like a thousand ball pit balls just floating around Binghamton's dump. Junkyard. I think we contributed to global warming through that ballpette. we are responsible

okay geez I kind of want to add that to unpaid and underrated so I'm gonna do it I do there's one topic I want to get it so I don't know who submitted it and I don't want it to basically someone essentially said your daughter

is like you know you're you already touched base on your daughter earlier but like I don't think how it was worded it was basically it was painting it to where like your daughter is your favorite child but it was almost like your wife submitted it or something, I think. It was probably my son. Oh, that would actually be funny.

Okay. Oh, now he's going to be like, see, I told you. I'm trying to find it to see exactly how it was worded, but I can't. It's not jumping out of me, but it stuck out at me earlier. No, it's, they are both at the age. I have a 13-year-old and a 10-year-old where I get to like mold their hobbies. Like my son listens to like 2000s pop punk and, uh, and like hip hop from my era and stuff like that.

And he lifts with me. He's lifted with me forever. And my daughter, she does dance and she's starting to get into like the lifting. And she just likes being around it. I love my children equally. They're just very different. And she is very, very funny, my daughter. How old is she?

She's 10. Mine's only four. And that's always, there was always the joke that I, loved the boy more. This is what I always say. I always go, Ben and the other one or firstborn and what's her face. Oh, no, the what's his face. What's her face? Yeah, that's a good one. I got good ones. So there's been a lot of breakfast burrito talk with, uh, oh, I can't, I, I know is our friend from the other, the other guy out in Boston. Anyway, one of the, what the hell is his name? The guy that just had his gym door.

featured. I can't think of his name. Jose. No, he's literally, he's on the schedule too. So sorry, buddy. I know who you are. But anyway, the whole thing, like, Tommy couldn't, couldn't stop talking about how good his burritos that his wife made were, his breakfast burritos. So I hear you make a pretty mean breakfast burrito. I can burrito anything. Breakfast burrito anything. So at any time, like, I make them at the house for just about every breakfast. And there was a long time my son needed to gain weight. Like, he was smaller. And so a three-eg breakfast burrito would make it happen.

That was really good. But whenever we travel, like, leftovers, I'm there making breakfast burritos for the whole family. Like, my wife's extended family and everything. So I've become famous for being able to burrito-wise any leftovers we have. This sounds really good. I think my morning breakfast, just for sheer convenience, it's just like a Costco, like, I think it's like a chicken barrizo, chicken chorizo burrito, but it's, it's not great, but two minutes in the microwave and I can eat it while I drive and like so, but so I've definitely

been consuming a shit ton of breakfast burritos, but not probably, I mean, not horrible nutritious, not horrible nutrition, but not amazing. We should have a little more protein, but fat and carbs aren't horrible, so. Well, it's been in the Discord too. I've been spreading the, uh, spreading the word of the cloud eggs. I did see something about that. Yeah. This one was asking about that.

Yeah, they're the best. So from cloud eggs to onion volcanoes. Nice segue. Again, a gift that was a chore was my Blackstone. Like, hey, here's this. Now cook us things. Yeah. But I was very excited for a couple of reasons.

I'd always wanted to learn how to do the onion volcano. And I'm always excited to buy vodka. So like mixing, mixing hobbies together. So, but yeah, I will cook anything I can out of Blackstone and have a little onion volcano on the side. What proof vodka do you need to do that? Regular vodka works, but I mean, again, if you need to tell your family, hey, we have to buy Devil Springs because I need it for the Unden Volcano. I'm not, I'll testify to that. I'll tell him, yeah, that he had to have it.

Noted. All right. You had something there, Keith. Oh, just that, like, I can attest that I have seen that Blackstone from my trip down there. Did we, I think we went to do it? I don't know if it was the pre-show or the show, so Matt and I had crossed paths there a while ago. He generously offered to pick up a Mars bar for me, ironically enough from someone who ended up joining crew not long after. And then I was able to, you know, I think you ended up having a store there for a good couple months by the time I actually had a Friday off. that I was willing to come down and, you know, submit to the, commit to the, you know,

everyone gives, New York's not a small state, but fucking took me, I, like, had a nine hour a day to get down there and back and I'm shooting the shit for a couple hours. But have you ended up meeting up with Steve at all any since he does live five minutes away? And now he's crew and have you guys, like, been, are you, like, getting tight there? He's one who I got to reach out to because I'm pretty sure he has a log. I know he has a lot of stones. His gym is really nice. He sold a shit ton of strong man stuff in the last year, which is wild.

Yeah. But he had a ton of stones. He was giving me a mini tour. He was a little bit of a time crunch when I picked up the Mars bar, but very, very impressive place there. And I'm like, I'm pretty sure I saw log, so I'm going to bug him.

That is definitely worth it. Because he The fact that if he even does have one, he's probably not using it right now, you could probably just be like, can I just borrow that for six months? Like three months? Like literally until my show and a couple, like, April. Like, can just borrow that for three months, please? I think he'd let you do that. That would definitely be worth

worth putting a call out to. What is the World Freestyle Grocery Cartaing Association? That was actually the shirt I had on in my last video. I didn't realize I had it on. It was kind of a scam. When we were in high school, we made a website. We went to a local grocery store, and they gave us grocery carts because we told them we were training for this world freestyle grocery carting, like doing X-Games tricks on grocery carts.

And they gave us grocery carts. And we sold shirts as a fundraiser at our school and sold a lot of them for this entity that did not exist. That is literally, like they've made Netflix fucking documentaries about people scamming shit like that. That is wild. Jesus, Matt. I mean, we didn't pretend it was a charity or something. Fair. Said you were going to go do this.

No, I actually got a deep dive this a little bit. So like this was 20 years ago probably, right? So like, does anyone ever follow up and was like, hey, did you ever do this? Or was it just your buddies just wore it because they were in on the joke? I think that it was so ridiculous looking back. And people got their shirts. All right.

That's better than some of the, we've had some history with this pod with the, with Masonomics adjacent and not getting shirts. So that have paid for them. So yeah, that's fair. At least you paid out the shirts. Yeah, if they bought shirts, they got shirts. But I think looking back at someone, we're like, man, these guys really weren't taking grocery carts and a half pipes.

Like, you should have figured that out on your own. That's a good lesson for everyone. So then also, what the fuck did, like, were you just doing jackass shit with them and, like, just breaking them and, like, doing, or were you just, did you just take them throw them in the back of your truck and they're just sitting in someone's fucking parents shed right now 20 years later because they don't want to do it. That's pretty much what it was. They showed up at my buddy's house because he lived the closest to the grocery store.

And his parents were like, what are we going to do with these? And we said, that's not our problem. How many are we like, did they donate multiple? Like, that's wild. We probably had three. Okay, that's still, like, those aren't. Like, grocery cards are like hundreds of dollars if you, I'm sure. Yeah.

And these were not like super beat up grocery cards. And I have no idea why they gave them to it. I mean, you should have used the grocery cards for the, all pits a couple years later. Like to get those into the dorm, that would have, you know, not been suspicious.

No, that's a good point. I could use and move sandbags now. I really, I fucking hate some of those go. I hate moving sandbags. Yeah, me too.

Except, like, it's just, I had to pick one up. Oh, I didn't have to. I tried to do, I've had a lot of left shoulder pain

here the last few months. I don't know what's been going on, but it's usually my right side that's always fucked up. My left side's been really acting up. So, my coach had programmed farmers and just like trying to pick up even like like half of the weight I was supposed to do that day. And it was just felt like someone was just like ripping my fucking shoulder out of my sock. It's like, I'm, I'm not doing these today.

Like I still wanted to get some carries in of some sort. So I just, I was like, oh, I'll go grab my sandbag and do some laps with that. And I hadn't done it. And my, my fingers still stub from my strong man show last month. Like I, I, are jammed, I guess is the proper term. Like, like, my ring finger has been swollen for like fucking four weeks now. Not cool at all. So then I keep like, re mildly jamming it.

so I'm having to like pick up a sandbag not really paying attention I'm like oh fuck it's just and then like as I'm holding it I'm just like I can't grasp the way I want to so that's just revenge of the sandbags buddy yeah they know who you learn what you did yeah they uh I'm definitely on their radar after what I did to them I just filled my inucks shell cup I think it's actually closer to 150 now I'm pretty angry about that yes there you go body weight

yep it goes up nice and easy but let's hear about your I know we touched on it earlier a little bit but I think it's home gym you know what kind of equipment you got what's on your future goal just you know talk about your baby

yeah I mean I always thought that I'd upgrade from my the PR 1100 that the rep two by two rack and then they had strapped safeties and flip down safeties for it but and I almost want to replace it

with a half rack because it's so short that doing presses and everything out of it is kind of a pain. So even like a... I see it. And you look that like a low profile rack like mounted to the wall

would accomplish everything I needed. Yeah. Or a squat stand. Like one of the rogue squats hands like I have. Right. Yeah. I think I have a squat stand, don't I? Yeah.

Yeah. It's only about six and a half or seven feet tall. Yeah, but it's not restricted with anything above it so you can press as much as your basement allows, whereas if you He wants to press inside of his rack. He's just going to hit it like, you know, when the bars are the space. Yeah, my ceiling's low enough to where I had to flip the, uh, the multi-grit bar for it.

Oh, yeah. I remember that. So, but it's not like I'm doing pull-ups in it anyway. So, uh, but it's still pretty happy with the setup. I've accumulated a lot of weight over, over time. Still got the bronze air dine that gets a lot of, gets a lot of work. But, uh, put a new assault monitor on that. But got a mix of everything.

rowing machine. He got that for Christmas one year. And now the axle that I built for only slightly more than buying a new axle. I had one of those too. Do you at least learn from my mistake that when you buy the two piece

axle collar on Amazon that it's literally just one that's in two pieces because I didn't realize it was going to cost me $40 to get the goddamn collars that I needed? I have... Do you go to like McMaster or something? No, I have something shocking to tell you, is that I bought the exact same one that you did

for the same price you did and it came with two whole collars. I think you got scammed. That's a fucking shit fuck. Motherfucker. Yeah. Hey, his kids listening. Sorry, buddy.

No, they've heard it. They heard it. I think, I don't know, man. Because, like, I had to, like, and I'm trying to remember if I actually dealt with customer. I think I just was like, I think I just looked at the ad again and saw, like, no, it just says two piece. And then it's showing a picture of the two pieces.

So I was nervous about it because my wife bought the one set for me for Christmas. And I was like, oh, man, she's going to be disappointed if this shows up. And it's only one. So I bought another one. And it has already been returned. I've been reimbursed. Also, two separate ones showed up with two. Right.

I got two packages of two. Yeah. So then I for sure got, yeah, no. So I for sure got screwed. So someone, oh. I'm so mad. That's like $40. It was $25 a pair or like for the pack or something.

Maybe it was whatever it was. It was more than enough to, oh, that actually has to be very hot right now. I really weighed this as a moral conundrum that maybe I shouldn't tell you this. No, no, no, no, no. And like, I instantly didn't believe you at first too. But then when you said you got a second pack and it had two, I was like, no, they duped me. Oh. But like at the end of the day, like, you win some, you lose some.

Like there's definitely been times. Like, you know, you get an extra. this or an extra that, you know, it is, it's all a wash. I'm trying not to, old, old, old Keith might have been more annoyed about that. I've already let it go. Well, when I saw the DIY thing on, whatever, on, online, and it's like, yeah, you'll get the pipe for 30 bucks. Yeah, I don't know, yeah, I think it was Kurt Locker's video probably from like a decade ago,

but it's still valid. Yeah, except that the pipe is $79. Yes, yes, yeah. My bells of steel axle was $100 Canadian. Fine. Yeah, you can get a tight one for like Not that much But this one's tan

Yeah And I got to go to the Bells of Steel Showroom to play with it Before I bought it To decide which one I wanted And honestly That was free Except for the hour long drive

Yeah So his axel's cheaper When you factor in Paying yourself time anything else you're jumping out at you Joey no no I was I you could probably see I was just looking through and crossing all of some stuff we already talked about is there anything we missed Matt before we jump in in some games

no I think we got everything beautiful well I'm gonna hit you with little FMK are you familiar with FMK if your friends and family aren't Matt's got a I'm gonna give him three separate entities if that's not the right word three seven things and he has to F1 marry one and kill one So stall, Matt, Matt, Matt stall, stall, stall. Here we go.

I'm going to hit you with some military movies. This might have been when you submitted. I'm not sure. In the notes, I don't get to see who submitted what without doing a shit ton of legwork, which is fine. But military movies, I wanted to pick something a little. I figured you're about my age, right? Are you in your late 30s, early 40s, somewhere in that room? No, early 40s, yeah.

Okay, so I picked a early 2000s. I think these are 2001, 2002 era. I figured it would be kind of more nostalgic. So three military movies from this era I'm going to hit you with. So FMK, Black Hawk down, enemy at the gate, we were soldiers. Oh. Familiar with all three at least, right? I am.

I am. All right. Going to kill enemy at the gate. I know I don't want to. It's such a good movie. I don't want to. It's such a good movie. We Were Soldiers was so impactful like that.

It just hit me at the right time. So I'm going to F we were soldiers and Black Hawk Down is merry because again, that was just right at the right time frame. We watched that while I was in basic training. Gotcha. I went to basic training. I was a junior in high school still. I went during summer vacation. And the first tiny little bit of freedom we got was sitting in a crowded room watching Black Hawk down and it's just the best.

Yeah, Black Hawk down always. it's one of those things where like you remember a time kind of thing because I remember it was the first time I had a license and I could drive to the theater by myself and like meet a buddy and go see a movie and it was we would did Black Hawk Down and like Mothman prophecies like back to back I think like in a summer of 2001 being in basic and hearing a story like seeing the story of Shugart and Gordon the two snipers that came down out of the helicopter like volunteered to go down knowing that they weren't going to make it out is just the craziest thing you

you've ever seen. So great. I remember Black Hawk Down always, it was kind of funny. Like, I remember when it came out and my mom watched and she was like, like, this was like a big, like major news thing, but like no one in my family remembered it at all. And then like we kind of pieced it back together. Like that was like the same time frame that one of my older brothers had like a horrific accident and was in the hospital like near death for like several months. So it kind of makes sense that like, like, well, me as being a five years old, I wouldn't have remembered it anyway or seven years old. But like how like my like adult, family members, like, I don't remember any of this happening.

It's like, yeah, she was in the fucking hospital, like, hoping your son didn't die for three months. But good answers. I don't know that it would, other than it, I think I would have edged enemy at the gate above We Were Soldiers, but that's just because, I don't know, We Were Soldiers is a very good military movie. I think enemy at Gate is just a more, you know, you get the love story aspect of it. Right. And I think that 80% of what I love about We Were Soldiers is Sam Elliott. Like, how do you know what kind of goddamn good day it is? Like, it's just such a great character.

Good stuff. All right. I'm glad I was able to handpick a few of those for you. Okay, so we didn't do Mount Rushmore. And let's keep it job specific. Your Mount Rushmore of TV detectives. Interesting. Colombo.

Yep. Colombo is my numero uno. I love Colombo. Agreed. Yeah. I absolutely love Columbus. well um Bosch

good one big Bosch guy I'm gonna go into private eyes a little bit because Magnum PI and then Spencer nobody's gonna know so yeah I gotta go with Spencer for hire Spencer for hire was an old older show there is a newer like Spencer but if you can find Spencer for hire the TV show just one of the best

like private investigator like shows of all time but Columbo is definitely the peak for me just the rumpled overcoat like everything the show how they did it that you knew

who did the murder like from the beginning it was so great and you just had to watch him get them to admit it and you knew he knew the whole time yeah right and did you ever hear the theory that he was the anti-S Sherlock Holmes?

Yes. Yeah. Because Sherlock Holmes was like, you know, the world's greatest detective and he would piece together everything and he would go after all these guys. But like Columbo knew people. But Columbo knew who it was. But it was always like rich people that thought they were above the law. They weren't like villains.

They just thought they were like, well, I'm rich and I'm hoity-toity. I can get away with this. And he never let them get away with that. Is house a detective? I was never a big house guy. I was a big house guy. I guess detective of the body. I'm willing to go along with that.

Well, he's based on Sherlock Holmes. Right. Right. House, Holmes, Watson, Wilson, the woman, Cuddy. Yeah. And I will say, even with all of the, like, you know, you have Jimmy McAulty, all these great characters from the wire. You know, Sister Podcasts will always talk about the wire.

But if you watched The Wire, I think it's Lester Freeman, is the pawn shop detective that ends up becoming like a big integral part of that. Best character in that show, in my opinion, as far as I like that police side. It was awesome, awesome. So he's my alien, he's my alien head. He's the alien face. He was so, he had a lot of personality. I just, like that deep, scratchy voice to, uh, he was. I think that's a good,

good show. Tanner was still not, I mean, Tanner was here earlier. He's gone now. We have to just assume he's watching the wire right now. He must be.

It's the only, it's the only, uh, logical suggestion of why he could leave you and you has to go to watch the wire. He's just slogging through season two right now. RIP to the, the one kid,

was it, was it, Ducky or? Oh, yeah. Uh, his name. Yeah,

the kid that recently took its life. Wouldn't it be funny? Like, this episode has a lot of dark spots. I have more dark stuff to talk about, but I don't really want to. If Tanner has actually already watched it and he's just been trolling this entire time. That would take so much like, well, what's the point though, too? Because like, it's not Tanner.

Yeah, but like, he doesn't want to admit that he has that AMC membership that they always talk about. We're like for $100 a month, you could watch unlimited movies. And that's just been him for decades. He just doesn't want to admit it. Oh, yeah, because it isn't like subscriptions. All right. Well, I got some affiliates I'm going to hit you guys with. Barbell Rescue.

If you have that dirty shaft, you need to clean it up. Cam at Barbell Rescue, it's got the cleaner. He's got different color inserts. He's got the oil. He's got all kinds of goodies over there. At one point, he had some banners and T-shirts and stickers. He will take care of you. Go see him.

He'll be at Lift Hard Levisia. He's more than likely to be at home gymcon. He's literally on the internet. So he's there whenever you need. him. He's a good dude. Home gym con, as I just mentioned, you know, I think there are over 100, uh, booth signed up. Jake, who hinted at there being, um, a big name signing up soon. Like he, he, I think he, I don't want to, well, yeah, he essentially said it wasn't locked in yet, but it might be, think of like one of the more, one of the strongest home gym owners. So,

you know, they could go a lot of different ways. But we'll see if that ends up coming to fruition. Freedom fitness equipment. If you want to get some chalk on your floor like Tommy has, you can go hit up Ashton, get some of those mats he's got. And then apparel from the Strength Code. Go help Grant's buddy, put some, you know, get some apparel from him. And Big Matt, unpaid or underrated. Familiar.

I am. It is a game that, you know, some of us, you know, helped contribute to making and modifying, making a little better, you know. We like it over here. So the gist of it is we're going to give Matt. up to six to eight handpicked topics specifically for him. He needs to use his druthers and decide are they unpaid or underrated? Underrated being pretty awesome, unpaid and being not so good because nobody wants to be unpaid.

So are you ready? I'm ready. Right. So let's hit you with Taco Bell, unpaid or underrated. Oh, big time underrated. The canteen a chicken burrito is the greatest fast food item that exists. I had one today. I might have to try that. That sounds good.

Is that a newer item? I don't think I've seen a canteen. So the canteen menu, we're getting into some lore here. The canteen of menu was back in the day, like, we're talking like pretty fresh guacamole they'd put on it. It was way too much for what you were paying for it, so it didn't last very long. Okay. But there is still the canteen of chicken burrito, and it's, you know, rice, guac, chicken. It's great.

That sounds. I'm going to have to, like, for a somewhat healthy per mac, you know, for healthy as you're going to get, or DMA that because I'm not going to remember that. But I got to talk about like two miles away that I don't utilize because I know I'll just go and get the same fat man order that I always get. That's just like cassidias and all the sour cream in the world. So I can't. The one unsettling thing about Taco Bell, have you gone through the drive-through recently? I, they do. I don't know if they've always had it, but there's one near my office now that I, you know, I go to once every six months, but I'd get a, uh,

a bacon and egg a cassidia, which is pretty fucking good for like four bucks. So yes, I guess. It's all AI now. Oh, okay. So you pull up, when you pull up

the entire interaction with the little talkie box is all AI. Ew. I know we hate AI, but like most people working on the other end of the phone is going to be a rude asshole anyway. So I would take AI over that honestly. Because I've had such shitty customer service

where I live that I'll take AI over assholes. Yeah, I'm pro efficiency. Like, I do not want to, like, I will self-checkout because I don't want to interact with people. So, like, it is a little bit of a net positive, but the first time I was like, man, that person has a really nice voice. And then I was duped. There was a whole episode, a newer shitty comedy that we sort of watched on NBC. I think it is DMV. And one of the guys,

essentially had to call out a hell potline. And he was like, my new best friend is the person that works here. And it was. like a whole episode about how like everyone else knew that he was talking to AI or they didn't want to hurt his feelings because it was like the first new person he's talked to that he's liked and made a friend or whatever so I got a kick out of that somewhat relevant I went to Taco Bell for the first time in like years and it had my first Baja blast. Yeah that's not a thing up here in Canada. Oh, this is the like the blue mountain do right? Yep. Or there's another bar that's it's green I'm trying to remember now. Like a turquoise

boys, a turtle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've had that a few times. I like diet do. It's hard to beat for me. Like, if I'm ready to drink a mountain dew, it's going to be diet. Big Diet do guy. I do.

But, so what did you think then? If you're on a one to five or a zero to five scale, what's your Baja blast rating? Like a one. And I don't, like, I don't drink hop normally. If I go to fast food, I get a bottle of water. Yeah. But I had my boy with me. And then I was like, yeah, let's try Baja blast together.

And he said it was too tart. Hmm. All right. Unpaid or underrated Douglas Adams books. Oh. And who is that? So that's the lucky number 42. From Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Okay.

Those books, they were big, they were big when I was a kid, and like my dad got me really into them, and they're great. Great. A series of books like sci-fi, but comedy. and they're really like nerdy and how they use math and comedy and stuff like that and I've been able to pass that down

my son has gone through the books from Douglas Adams I can't tell you how many times so yeah it's great good good good all right unpaid or underrated the movie Hurt Locker Oh now you're struck a nerve the other way

The worst You don't like Hurt Locker the worst military movie of all time. McHale's Navy is like Oscar-winning cinema compared to this stupid movie. Tom Arnold, I think, was in McHale's movie now? No, no, no, no, but there was, wasn't there like a 50, or was it a TV show? I think it was a TV show. Okay, because I know like we all, I mean, like I watched like a 1995 Tom Arnold, McHale's Navy, which is fucking horrible, but I thought it was based on something that didn't suck.

I think it had been a TV show, but Hurt Locker is. just and it won awards. Oh yeah, it was like the best movie of the year. And like it's, we've had like multiple bomb technicians that have, you know, I think they've shared. I don't remember if they were positive or negative towards.

I think they liked it just because they were bomb techs, but like inaccurate the shit. There is no, it's universally hated amongst veterans from everyone that I've talked to. And there's one part of the movie that is great. And if there was a movie, called the last two minutes of Hurt Locker, it would be a great movie. I'm sure there's a YouTube clip, so just watch that every now and then.

When he's standing, he's standing in a cereal aisle, because he's back home, right? And he's looking and there's all these choices for cereal he could buy, and he can't process that. Because he has to make, when you're deployed, what you're supposed to do, you always know what it is. You don't always do it, but like, you know everything you're supposed to do. And when you come home and there's all these choices, you're supposed to do. and none of those choices seem to matter. It's a weird feeling. So like that instant in that movie was like perfect.

Everything else about it was dog shit. Like the end of Rambo. Right. Yeah. I don't think I've watched the Hurt Locker since it came out. No, I probably won't. So that was the only way I could relate. Sorry to kind of offshoot to Rambo there, but I can see the similarities there.

We've got a lot there, Keith. If you want to do another one, you got time. All right. I'm going to keep it food related only because I ate here today. Unpaid or underrated, Panera bread. It's hospital food. It's overpriced hospital food. It's garbage.

Everyone who says that it's good is lying. This is a conspiracy that has been set up to make me mad. There is no way anyone thinks this is real food that should cost this much. The mac and cheese, my kids love the mac and cheese, so I have to eat half of a sandwich. some soup that tastes like Band-Aids all the time because they get the stupid mac and cheese. It is dumpster food. I am not this passionate about anything else in my life.

I'm so glad I picked this. Panera bread is trash. Ah, I mean, my options today were Burger King, uh, was the shitty chicken place. Um, fuck. Really, the southern chicken place, not K-S. Popeyes? Popeyes, yeah, was Popeye's Burger King or Panera. And I was like, and I had eaten kind of shitty the day before.

So I was like, yeah, because I eaten Wendy's in that Latin. And I didn't really go burger. And Popeye is it's, I don't know. If it was, it's not horrible, but it's like, I don't know. I have the same go to like my panera. I get that, that, that, the half steak sandwich and the bowl of the tomato soup. And it's, I don't know. It's not, it's just annoying, though, because it's 17 bucks, but it's like,

but it's also, that's, that's through right prices, though. It's a little bit cheaper, not through way, but yeah. Did you choose the. super hard, weird piece of almost bread or the apple that's tasteless with the texture of sand. I would usually go chips, but I think I did go the bread. I should have got chips. But they do like to tell you how they're free. And I'm like, well, I mean, it's just baked. It's literally baked into the fucking price already. Stop telling me it's free. It's just an option that I already paid for you. Fuck. Remember when they had this like energy lemonade that people were having heart attacks

from? And I was like, you deserve it. This is what you get for proprietive. this restaurant. You're going to take your kids at Panera tomorrow, aren't you? I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. So when you look at your credit card statement, you see Panera on there like three times a month, you're just like, son of a bitch.

Oh, I rage. I rage. Because even if I don't have to go, the fact that we are normalizing this food is something that should be consumed just drives me crazy. Like, oh, we got a spring mix of lettuce that we threw some walnuts on. That'll be $14.

Okay, so what if it was, what percentage would it have to be cheaper for you to be neutral or not annoyed by it? Like if it's at 100% right now, like, would it have to be set, like, 25% cheaper or to 10%? It would have to be, ah. Because I mean, you have to be real. Right, I'll be realistic here. Because 25% cheaper would be, like, in line with, like, McDonald's, you would think, give or take. But McDonald's, you at least have the brief moment of that tasted good before you hate yourself.

Yeah. And you don't get that with Panera. I like my steak sandwich and tomato soup, man. I don't have an extensive history with the rest of their menu. I think we've ordered some salads from them before, but like, I don't know. It just, it's bland hospital food to me. All right. That's really funny.

That's the most animated you. We talked about my S T.E. We talked about this T.E. earlier, and I'm like, Pinarban, you can die. Yeah. This is, that was actually funny. All right. I don't know.

We'll keep it food related, unpaid or underrated Jamaican beef patties. I had the same question for you, because you talked about it. I saved you, though. We have a place, Kennedy fried chicken. They're 20% chance to get stabbed if you go there. But beef patty, cocoa bread, and cheese is my go-to. We still get it, and me and my wife will get it DoorDash to our house sometimes. Jamaican beef patties are the best.

They are underrated. Unpaid or underrated. This one's going to hurt some feelings. Cherry Limeade energy drinks. Oh, they're the... Oh, all right, good. No, I am a horror for Cherry Limeade. When Kilcliffe had the ignite cherry limeade, it was dangerous.

Like, I was addicted. And now they have it in the Celsius. I wish they had in a smaller can. But anything, Cherry Limeade, I will consume it. So ghost cherry lime it is the best, right? I will say it's the best easily available. The Kilcliff Ignite is stupid. It's so good.

But I'm not paying a subscription to get a box that's sent to my house for like $80. No, I don't pay me. That's my wife's Panera money. I can't spend that. She's going to say that's beenera prices. Unpaid or underrated. Speaking of energy drinks, Ripet energy. Oh, rippets.

I can't describe. ripets to you. Ripets are these little cans of this non-colloidal liquid that they would give a... I think they were testing it on us overseas or something like that. Where it has like layers.

It doesn't mix together the right way. It doesn't stay how it's supposed to. I've just never heard that word in my life. It, it's they weren't good. But they were just the most, and they were free though. So you'd have these little like shots and They had bigger cans, but usually it was these little shot like cans of energy drink.

And it's probably going to give me cancer one day because I probably had a thousand of them. But every dining facility overseas was just like handing them out like McDonald's hands out the hot apple pies. Like, please take these from us. And I've legitimately probably had like tens of thousands of them in my life. Yes, because we heard a story about that. Oh, yeah. So we were ending a convoy, and I think this is the one he's talking about. We were ending a convoy.

We'd been driving for days, and I was definitely dehydrated and over-caffeinated, and I was in like the gunner's hatch. So the truck that we were in, you're sticking out the top and you have the machine gun. And all of a sudden, I couldn't feel like one side of my face. and we had a medic in our backseat, and I looked down at him, and I'm like, I kind of feel funny in my whole face, like full stroke symptoms. I couldn't lift my hand. Like, I remember specifically feeling that the right side of my tongue wouldn't move. It was like split right down the middle.

And he looks at me and he goes, oh shit. Like, legitimately thought I had a stroke. And it turns out if you mainline caffeine and nicotine for like a week and don't sleep, you will have a migraine. that presents like a stroke. But luckily it was our last day of the convoy, so we get in to where we were going, and they just rehydrated me, and suddenly I didn't look like a melted candle anymore. Yeah. Unpaid or underrated hook grip.

I can't do it. These tiny infant hands of mine, I have tried. I remember on one of the podcasts again, I can't remember. You just have five thumbs. It's seriously, this is Connecticut Glove all the time. If you know, you know, Cadet Glove clan.

The, they were talking on the podcast. Again, I can't remember if this was a back catalog or recent. And it's like, you don't have to bury it that deep. Everybody thinks I'm like, I can't get my hand around the stupid bar. I can't hook grip a chopstick. So I just got to hold on for dear life and get elbow tendonitis.

Okay. Hey, last, but obviously, never the least, unpaid or underrated, $30 Walmart trap bars. I wish I still, no, okay. So I had a cap one, the super sharp, like, that everybody has. And so I buy the $30 open trap bar, because, you know, you got to have an open trap bar. What a piece of shit this thing is. It's slippery. Well, at the same time ripping your hands apart.

It arrived, Ben, and of course I sold the other trap bar, like anticipating my open trap bar getting here. Yeah, you tell the listener, you did tell me when we were in person that you won't buy something new until you've already have the funds in place by selling something, right? That's like the rule you have. That's the move. That's the move. And so now I have this stupid thing with hockey tape on the grips, and I have it deadlifted with it in forever. And it just sits in the corner like a curl bar. You're not going to get anything out of it if you sell it.

No. No. My open trap bar, the handles actually spin. And can I tell you how fucking useless that is? Like, you get any weight on there and it just ruined your grip. Like, you're pretty much rolling thunder. Trap bars. You have to strap.

You can't use that trap bar without straps. So it's useless. So I use it mostly for searchers. I just, and I feel like what makes me the most mad is I was influenced. You know, like, the garage gym Facebook group got me that I needed an open trap bar because that cap trap bar that I had was awesome and didn't appreciate it until it was gone. Hopefully another one pops up somewhere. Yeah.

And then I just have one personal one if that's okay. Unpaid or underrated quarter zip sweatshirts. Now that with work that I'm allowed to wear a quarter zip, it used to be shirt and tie in the winner. all like for years and now the quarter zip is allowed and so I can wear a polo and a quarter zip every day like that's my tuxedo now like if I'm going to a wedding I'm probably just gonna wear a quarter zip at this point I've just become like that post-COVID like slob or that's as nice as I get anymore right all right you passed unpaid and underrated congratulations we can air the episode hopefully and for recording yep I think we are fingers

No, yeah. That was recording before you even got here. I know, I know. I had to double check when you asked. I did too. I just looked up like, nope, I see that red dot. Big Matt, do you have anything for us you wanted to hit us with Big Dog? I do.

Keith, I have an unpaid or underrated. I have three of them. But I want to see if you can figure out where these questions came from as we move along. Okay. So, unpaid or underrated, Adidas, Rakata trail running shoes. I don't, did I have a pair of those? You had multiple pairs. Oh, yeah, I think I did.

I haven't worn them. I don't, that's back when they were, it's, yes, at the time they were probably underrated, but now I can't fit at the, they're not wides, so like, before I, like, my feet have, like, feel like the older I get and the heavier I get, like, I just, I need wide shoes now. But at one point, yes, I did have,

I had probably bought that shoe 10 times over, like, decade or whatever, and I think I still actually have like a pair who's still in storage, essentially, but I just, I can't I'm not like, I can't fit into a not wide shoe anymore. So I'm saying when you got this from my wife of just things that I OCD about and have bought multiples of because no one, unless someone's been in my house and saw these shoes and or you hacked my Amazon account. How about unpaid or underrated sound machines?

Those are, I have several of those and, uh, they are very, very under, yeah, how do I play my game underrated? Yes. Sound machines, if you don't sleep with a night, if you come to me and you complain about how you didn't sleep the night before in any capacity, and you don't own a sound machine to drown. And like the complaint came from outside noise or like just not being able to like zone out. And you don't try a sound machine at least once.

Like I don't, I don't care about your opinion. Like just try it once. And if it's not for you, great. But like a white noise machine of any sort, even if it's just playing Spotify on your phone with like most, I haven't not slept with a sound machine for 20 years probably. That's what that red light is behind it. It plays brown noise.

And I have like four, I have a travel, like every room, every bedroom, every room in the house with a bed has one. And then I have one in a suitcase that never comes out. And now we have a Bluetooth one or a wireless one that's even easier to travel with. And your last one for unpaid and underrated.

DeWalt Interceptor Hearing Protection. Yeah, I've got a couple of those. Anything DeWalt, I'm a big fan of. So, yeah, unpaid. Now, can you figure out where those came from? If I didn't, apparently I was wrong if it was my wife, so I'm not sure. You enthusiastically reviewed all of these things on Amazon. That's actually funny.

Like I wrote a thing, or there's just like a, a source. star rating. I don't think I would have. No, no, you wrote for each of these. Oh, wow. And I wish I'd screenshoted it. The DeWalt Interceptor Hearing Protection was a big no. You hated the DeWall. Oh, no.

Yeah, no, okay. Now that those are, I, I do remember those. Those suck. That I, like, your name, like, this is literally 15 years ago or at least 10 years ago. No, they are, they were over the ear, like, ear muffs for hearing protection. But literally, like, you turn your head at anything other than a, like, the

slowest thing and it literally is falling off. They were the most garbage, trash, shitty, yes, I do remember those specifically being ass. The shoes I think I must have liked. And then the, I'm assuming the sound machine I liked, unless it was a shitty one that we were experimenting with, but yes.

I remember even throwing those away because I had them for so long. I think I bought them for work and they just didn't do shit. It's like you'd literally plug a saw in and it's just like, I can hear the fucking, it's like, it's even louder in my head. Yeah, I haven't thought about those in probably 10 years. 12 years. That's really funny. I want to go, I'm going to go look at, I'm going to go read that review now and see how, like,

how many typos I had in it. And I don't know if this applies to you, but it makes me think of Rochester. Do you have a Mount Rushmore of garbage plate ingredients? Ingredients. I'm not a, garbage plates are mid, man. I don't love garbage plates. I love them. I love Texas hot sauce so much that I, I love garbage plates. So, like, I'm, like, obviously not, like, I grew up in West Virginia where they actually have real good hot dogs in my opinion. What a hot dog is is like, you know, a meat chili, you they call hot sauce up here, but it's different and it's just not, it doesn't taste the same, what I want my quote unquote

chili to be on my, my hot dog. So like, I mean, have I, have I consumed a dozen? Do I have a, do I have a garbage plate every two years probably? But like, I don't remember the, I can't remember the last time I had one. But my one thing I will always have to get with a garbage plate. I do, patty's not the hot dog. I think that's an option. And I always, I always, always I literally will like be like will you sell me like like a couple hamburger buns because I don't want to make this not like I want to eat this as a hamburger with all the other stuff which I'm fine I'm fine with all my topping stuff mixed in but like I still rather eat the hamburger so I don't know garbage plates or I just I'm I've never assimilated to

being a fan boy of a garbage plate so I couldn't I couldn't I couldn't tell you that even who's I don't know and I've had who's been like the home of them supposedly so yeah Pass. All right, Joey, both of my unpaid or underrateds for you came up as mine. It came up for me, but I'm going to do them anyway. Jamaican beef patties. I got to say unpaid. Yeah.

Really? Yep. And only because the last time I had one, I got food poisoning from it. Oh, that'll kill it. Yeah. But that was like probably 20 years ago. Yeah. and I missed a slip-knock concert because of it.

Oh, man. I could not get off the basement floor. It sounded like you just had slip-knob, but maybe I misheard that. Because I probably had those shitty head. I probably had those DeWalt headphones on. Yeah, slip-knot. No, I heard, in my head, I heard slip-nut.

Weird. And I was like, wait, what? What did he do? Do you fall down? Yeah, so, like, sorry. I know they're delicious, but because of that,

I don't think I've had one since. And unpaid or underrated, daughters as hype men? She's not a very good one, but I love when she's down there with me. Because then she'll just go, so underrated, obviously. But she doesn't like cheer me on. My boy does. My boy will say, good work, daddy, good lift, daddy. And then she'll go, okay, my turn.

And then she'll just like, like stand on one foot and move her hips back and forth. and those are her reps. And it's still great. Like, yes, come do whatever you think exercising is right now. Let's let's do that. Was she there for your log lift at the no wine cellar? Yes, but they were upstairs. And she was like, she would have been too.

No, no, you were doing the log in the driveway. Oh, no, yeah. So they were there. You did a big deadlift because you and I were doing like dueling deadlifts face to face at the end. It was kind of cool. But then we were screwing around with the log in the garage. in the garage, sorry, in the garage in the driveway.

Yes, they were definitely there for that. They were just way, over-stimulated at that point. Yeah. Yeah. I was ripped on ammonia. Yeah. And then FMK, beard oil, barefoot shoes,

kilts. No. Kill beard oil. Um, I love it. And I use it. But, like, now with the new job, I used to use it every day, and now it's like every other day. Just kind of one of those, like, if I'm dry, I use it.

I don't have to use it every day. We're probably going to F kiltz, because I don't, I love my kiltz, but I don't wear them like, I do barefoot shoes. Like, I don't, except for like days like today where we had a foot of snow, I wear barefoot shoes, primarily in the gym, outside of the gym, to work. I have to wear safety boots at work, and they don't make them yet. So I don't have them there, but, like, yeah, probably many barefoot shoes. Have you found a good hard toe that is at least close as far as, like, barefoot shoes?

Like, Keene, I have freakishly wide toes, and I have to wear zero-drop shoots with how my feet are. And I used Keens for a long time when I had to do hard toe. But, like, I wear lembs every day at work because I have to wear dress shoes. And I have these monkey feet. But I have yet to find, like, a good, like, zero drop heart toe shoe. No, what I did was I just went half a size bigger. Yeah.

And then I just wear padded socks. And it's kind of the... Yeah, I think that that was the closest I could get in just making sure that I had toe movement. But just wait. on you Shelby and Ryan. Not so much Shelby, but mostly Ryan and Blake. I thought they were working on.

Wasn't there a USA made one supposed to be thing? They're working on it. They had a name, yeah. Yeah, they have been dropping hints in some of the not, maybe not the personal,

like not the Discord, but like the other one, the group chat, there have been hints about it. But again, like, getting it certified, getting it, all of that kind of stuff.

It probably takes dollars and dollars and hours and hours, right? Quick follow up there for Joey. So I've got my one pair of barefoot shoes and the heel is starting to unroll on one of my hair. What are you like just like is there like a glue shoe that I can buy on Amazon? Like I don't want to invest a ton of money in these because it's kind of annoying, but like I don't want my heel or not, no, like it's the bottom of the soul, I guess if you will, is rolling off of the, I mean, it's only like a quarter. It's like like one inch. There's a little bit of flap right now, and I'd like to stop that from getting worse. The shoe's still intact.

It's just the heel separating from the shoe. Yeah, and it might even be an inch. It might even be like a quarter, like a half inch or something. Yeah, just shoe glue. Unless you, do you bought them directly from barefoot? They're the massonomics ones I got like three years ago. Okay, so check your invoice to see if you paid for the insurance. I'm sure I didn't.

But my wife bought them as a present, so it's not even... Okay. In that case, shoe glue. So like $10 shoe glue. Is it an air saw or is it like a roller? It's probably just a tube. Okay, I'll look into that. And you just glue it, clamp it overnight.

Easy enough. Put a plate on it because they're swayed, right? Yeah, they're very pliable. Yeah. So they're like, I only use them to deadlift pretty much, or maybe if I need like a flat, so I don't really wear shoes in the basement unless I'm squatting. Yeah, so shoe glue and just clamp them shut.

There we should handle it. Perfect. They've held up great for what they are. I mean, three years for a shoe is, pretty damn long anyway, so. Yeah, the massonomic shoes I can't, like, get rid of, but I'm still waiting for some kind of black shoe to come in stock.

That's my size. No, that new smoke should looks gorgeous. The gray, the gray smoke, if it wasn't for exchange rates and border fees and Carroll Stream and, and, and I probably would have ordered those smokes by now. So what about, so Matt, where we wrap this up, we got to give you a little bit of, you know, give you a hard time.

You haven't been in the Arnold. You haven't gone to home gym con. You haven't got a Lift Hard Live Easy. What's realistically maybe on the radar? Any of those? You haven't been in the no wine cellar, you know? That's on the list. The no wine cellar is definitely the list.

It's like two and a half hours away. I don't know. If I am figuring out lift hard, live easy. Not like, obviously not this year. It's not going to happen. But I want to get a few events this year under my belt. and see if I can get some money together to come to Strongman at Lift Hard Live Easy next year.

Nice. So you signed up for Dan's show, the Salt City Classic 2. So how is the, you know, and you said you've kind of pivoted from CrossFit into power lifting and now into Strongman. So how do you think the events are stacking up for you? How do you think you're anything you're nervous about, anything you're excited about, anything like that? obviously the log is a bit of an unknown to me because I'm doing what I can with a multi-grip bar like getting some experience and I feel like the lapping of the sandbag is doing a little bit of that for me too like that sort of but once I get a log at least somewhere I can train I'll

feel a little bit better about that but Dan's been great too because you said listen if you sign up as novice which I'm kind of in that intermediate range right now as far as where my weights are. He goes, if you sign up as novice, we can move you. Like, that's not a big deal. Just sign up and we can put you in whatever correct category. He goes, so we can do that days prior. Like, we're not worried about that.

Yeah. So that's very cool. Obviously, it's hard to train, like, yoke and stuff like that right now because everything's ice. Yeah, for sure. But, um... You have enough of a, you have a little bit of a drive way. You could carry the yoke.

You get like 10 feet in the girl. Oh, is it? Is your garage high enough where the yoke is? to do not really. If I get it in exactly the right pin, yeah. I can do a little bit. But I can, we have a deck that extends out so I can do some there. And anytime it's dry, I'm doing what I can with that.

Also, I love doing the oak. So that helps too. So New York, it's hard to say. It's like March could be fucking 65 degrees the whole time or we can be shoveling a blizzard. Yeah. And he advertised that he's going to, I forget what the two days were that he's looking at. I can make it to one of them. Oh, yeah.

There's a Strongman Saturday where he's going to go through events and stuff. Yeah, so I'll probably get smacked back down to Earth a little bit going to that. I would do. I would definitely sign up. You have a seven signed up yet then, you're saying? So I am. I was waiting a little bit after Christmas to invest because I have to join the Federation. Yeah, it's kind of an ass.

Yeah, it's like it's not just the $80. It's like, it's like almost $200 at the door, give or take, give the time you're done. It's frustrating, but it's such as life. but he said, you know, don't worry about it. You can sign up coming up until April. I'm not going to wait that long. But I'm definitely my plan outside of injury is to do it.

And it's been really fun because like even having, like, Jen saw my failure blooper reel of trying to do Continental Cleans and sent me a video that watched that. And then the next time I came in, I was nailing them. So it, and Dan's been really supportive. I've gotten a ton of advice from people just reaching. out saying, hey, try this, try this. And it's, it's been so cool.

Yeah, that's what's cool. Like, with Strongman, there are so many different things. Like, it's almost like, usually if it's like, no one really wants unsolicited advice, but with Strongman, it's not so bad because it's like, I don't fucking, I literally have never done this before. I've been, like, I've been doing Strongman for two years. And there's like 77 things I haven't done yet. So, like, I will take unsolicited advice.

You know, I take everything with a grain of salt. But, like, with power lifting, it's just like, all right, you're not going to change my squat form with, like, watching one video. from the side when I've been squatting for 20 years the same way. It's like even if you're right, like I was just, but with Strongman, it definitely, I think most people are okay with getting like opinions and advice and because it's such

foreign. Some of it, so much of it is foreign to so many people. Yeah. Yeah, the weirdest thing was after catching like the log to, I'm thinking of, oh,

I'm just going to push my elbows underneath. And it ain't that. No, it's, it's, yeah, you should definitely, you should DM Steve tonight and be like, do you have a log I can borrow?

Like that or just be, you know, yeah, don't pull the trigger on the Titan one, but also like don't not train log for four months. We have a gym in Binghamton that I, because I was talking to someone I work with who had done a strong man competition and was trying to get him to come up to this with me. He goes, oh yeah, just so you know, this gym, they have a whole strong man room and they have a log there. I'm like, all right, and the guy who owns it is in a similar line of work as me. too, so I'm going to pop into that a little bit.

But yeah, definitely do at least like twice a month or maybe go down there. If you can't get a log or even once in it, I mean, you get four or five sessions in it, you'll be fine. Yeah. But having it, having it in the garage would be so much more convenient. Yeah. Even if you can't press it, just cleaning it and learning, like, mastering the clean and like take it outside and press it like twice if you have to in the blizzard.

All right, brother. Well, Joey, anything you wanted to hit on? We're going to make one. I think I, we just talked strong man in books there for the last 10 minutes, but I think we're good. Close this out. Yeah. Big stall, stall, Matt, stally, stall, where are they going to find yet?

Yeah, Matt Stoll, Matt Stahl on Instagram and pretty sure I'm Big JB, because there's so many big mats on Discord. So, so Big J.B. Easy enough. Joey where you up? Joey underscore Malesco. I'm L.E.C.O. All right.

We have an Instagram, unpaid and underrated podcast. We've got the website Unpaid Internpodcast.com. YouTube, go race for first comment. And I am Keith Honeycutt 73 on Instagram. More importantly, go follow my horse gym that I want a seller. Until next time, see you next Tuesday.

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So now I want to see if it puts those in it. Hong Kong.