Unpaid And Underrated - 148 : Did Tonal Fix That for You? (ft. Big Steve)

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Steve. They dive right into great topics like tools, lifting hacks, lifting with kids, and Tonals. Links Ü&Ü Hoodie Massenomics x Ünpaid an...d Ünderrated Colab Get Your Own Keith Head Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast Our Guest On Instagram @bambam_168 Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar @joey_mleczko Special Guest: Big Steve.

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Starting point is 00:00:09 And welcome back to episode 544 of the unpaid, underrated podcast, a podcast by crew for crew. I'm one of your host, Big Keith, joined here, as always by Big Joey. Hello. And this week, we got one of the steves, Big Steve. How you doing on, buddy? I'm doing good, boys. Welcome to the podcast, my friend. Do you drinking anything good over there?
Starting point is 00:00:29 Yeah, I got a horse banquet. Nice. Nice. What about you, Joey? Anything good? Nope. Same. Rinse and repeat.
Starting point is 00:00:39 I haven't, remember the day when crew would send us drinks? That was pretty awesome or hand us stuff. You know, this variety of things. I got to go to things to get stuff. Yeah. Well, even when you do go, it's hard because it's like, oh, you gave me a whole bunch of stuff. And my hotel was like an hour. It's like, it's like a mile walk away.
Starting point is 00:00:57 It's like, you don't have to give me anything. But it's all good. I have just been doing the same Waterloo thing from Wegman or from Costco for months now. but it's it's convenient and cheap so uh well i'm gonna rocking out the old uh dark set of the moon shirt what do you got on steve i get the uh band buddy light shirt well yeah buddy you know the one joe either has the crimson and cream or squat oh the squad so we'll see nice good good good one that's a good one um a little bit of news this week let's see the boy the boy boys were on, well, the Seamus video.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Joey can kind of share his thoughts on that. I thought it was good just because it's orange, but I, as someone who's probably, I never watched Seamus. Seamus wasn't a wrestler when I watched wrestling, so I've never seen him perform once. So I don't know anything about him other than seeing him in like commercials and shit,
Starting point is 00:01:53 but I thought it was a great video in general. What do you think, Joy? So, Seamus is like one of the, probably one of the better wrestlers, but they tend to not use him, properly. Interestingly, he won his first championship from John Cena on my birthday.
Starting point is 00:02:13 He was the king of the ring. He is very close to being a Grand Slam champion. So there's a lot of great accolades in wrestling for Seamus as far as WB goes. But one thing I do want to point out, and I know he's not listening, Tanner, you might listen. He did not seem to really be into the whole thing. now we know because we have some insider information that like his schedule was all messed up he he was trying to make it work for the guys so like i'll give him the human aspect of that but as far as that video goes like man he was kind of like disengaged a bit i think he didn't know like not knowing the boys too because like almost every other video except maybe gunner peterson i think like they were friends or knew them or the person getting interviewed or the, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:07 interviewed because it's a fucking walking podcast. But the guy doing a gym tour probably knew of Massonomics, whereas this guy like outside of Brian Coppelman connection, like he didn't know where the fuck they are. He doesn't know who we are. So. Yeah. So a ton of forgiveness there. But it was just one of those things where I was trying to show my buddy at work. And I'm like, oh, here's two of my friends interviewing Seamus.
Starting point is 00:03:27 And his first reaction was, he doesn't look like he wants. to be there. And I'm like, that's not a good review. It's like, I was like, you know, I gave him, again, like I said, like, we have the insight to that he had a change his schedule. Things were supposed to go different, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But like, if you don't know that information. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I would, I'll counter that I didn't feel that way. I thought he was tired. I mean, I'm fucking tired. Of course he's tired. Like I said, like I said, one of the best wrestlers in WWE. But like outside of. just being tired. I didn't, I didn't feel that he was ungenuine.
Starting point is 00:04:04 His genuine reaction to getting the drink spotter. Oh, it was incredible. So, like, to me, like, he was, yeah, I don't know. If you don't mind me saying, that full down seat on the leg press. Yeah, it was decent. And that was so cool because he was like, oh, yeah, they weren't going to do this. And I asked them to, and they did. Like, that was amazing.
Starting point is 00:04:23 I really enjoyed seeing that. His backyard going into the laneway so that he can do sled pulls. Incredible. Everything about that video was good. It's just Shamis was like, he's not the Shamest we know from wrestling. The shame as we know from But also like is that who he is. Is that the dude? Like is that the man and like Seamus on TV is an actor kind of thing? Like I'm in wrestling you are you times 10. So like I get it. I see it. I'm curious in his because does he do like some YouTube thing where he just trains with people? Like I'd never watch one of those. But like. Okay. Yes. So Celtic warrior workouts. I've said,
Starting point is 00:05:01 it before, I think, maybe when I first got into lifting, I had no training, I had no nothing, I had no coach, so I watched his YouTube, and it's what got me into strength training, was watching him. He brings the energetic heat into those videos you're saying? Well, he brings
Starting point is 00:05:19 other wrestlers in. So he just goes to their gym and does their workout. It's actually incredible to watch, because he does stuff he hates, especially burpees. Shamish hates burpees, we all hate burpees. and so yeah well thank you hunter um but like that's what got me into this that's what i started doing before i found juggernaut was i was doing celtic warrior workouts and adapting parts of what he did and doing it myself uh so he said like if he made a change to anybody's life he did he made
Starting point is 00:05:52 one to mine right so you know i'm not knocking it at all i'm not saying it was a bad video, it was just like my friend's first reaction was like, he doesn't look that thrilled. I'm like, he's tired, right? I still like, I liked it. It was great. No, it was great. 10 out of 10. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I mean, he's definitely not the best, you know, orange gym I've seen, but it's pretty up there. It's what I say. It's definitely in the Mount Rushmore of crew of, of, of a sort of, well, I can't say it's not certified either, right? Of gems that they've toured that has orange in it. He's on the podium of orange gems. I won't tell you where I put him. No, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Oh, yeah, the garage door with the painting on it. That I enjoyed. And I liked how it was like, yeah, she did like a, you know, a hall, a laser thing and it like projector or a projector of the image and then stenciled that. Yeah, that was pretty neat. Yeah. No, it was a really cool, Jim. Would you like it, Steve?
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah, actually, I thought it was really cool. But a question for you, Keith, you might know. When he talked about the, um, the functional trainer with the four to one ratio on it, I don't know what I've never heard of that. Because that was, meaning that. it was like, because he like, this four to one means it be,
Starting point is 00:07:03 like if you're picking up 40 pounds, you're losing up 10 pounds, right? Like that's how I. Yeah, correct. So he did some hack to it to make it not that. And his wife was all pissed off. Because that actually,
Starting point is 00:07:15 that kind of annoyed me. Like that, because like as someone who is like, I make as many accommodations as I can to make my wife be able to have the easiest gym scenario. And he was like, oh yeah, my wife can't even lift the light,
Starting point is 00:07:24 the easiest weight on the functional trainer now. Fuck her. Essentially is what he said. And I was like, well, thing. That I actually, you know, I don't care if he was tired, but that did piss me off. So that's my one knock on that video. But I don't know what he did. I know two to one for sure, four to one. I don't know. Maybe he just, fuck, set it up wrong. Like, I really don't know. Because that does sound, you'd have to have such a large amount of weight. You'd have to have like a thousand pound stack to be able to like do a lap pull down or something. But I don't know. So he might have misspoke with that. Maybe, maybe it was two to one and he made it or maybe it was, I really don't know. Well, I kind of believe it. I kind of believe it because Tanner did say that. I think he said what there was like a 600 pound total set of stack.
Starting point is 00:08:04 There was like two, three hundreds or something like that, which seems like a ton for a selector. Yeah, I think it was 300 ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't know. But I don't know. That was a good video. Everyone go give that a watch.
Starting point is 00:08:14 They were on the Neurled News podcast. I remember that, I think. So I'm probably, we'll rate their episode at some point. But the Neurled News went to me, I got more out of that because like, not to not, like, I already knew a lot of the gym radar stuff. So them, like, recap. and all the Gem writer stuff on their main podcast. It's just like, all right,
Starting point is 00:08:31 it's good for the masses to hear. I've heard all this shit a couple times. So, uh, but the getting interviewed aspect of the neural news when I really enjoyed because they really kind of deep, they were like, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:08:41 explain massonomics to us essentially. So then getting like their, you know, uh, 10,000 foot view 10 years later and kind of what they remember. Just because I, I really did enjoy that and kind of getting some meat and potatoes and massonomics and different perspectives.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Like they've talked about it all before, but I don't know, hearing it in a different kind of light was pretty interesting. I did enjoy a lot of that. I did listen to that. I'm so thankful you sent me that. I didn't watch it because like I said before, watching YouTube videos and my kids in the house.
Starting point is 00:09:11 It's just, it's literally impossible. So I listened to on the way to work. A good 36, 40 minute episode, got it banged out in one day. I think there's two differences. And maybe you'll agree with me, maybe you won't. The main difference on the Massonomics podcast, it was explaining it to us. us. On Nearled News, it was a sales pitch.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Yeah. And the sales pitch had so much more information and so much more like this is what, because they had the other guys there, right, that were like, oh, here's how we were on their podcast. They didn't have that. So they had the feedback of like, oh, this is what I like about it, uh, specifically talking about how important reviews were. And how it's like, even in the discord, people are like, well, I wanted to go buy this product. And, and I, I just went and looked at your reviews. And this is a real time how important Jim Radar is going to be. That's how I got my brother on.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Right? I got my brother signed up. I actually pitched certified membership to him a month ago. And he was like, yeah, I'm not spending money for that. That's stupid. And then he was like, wait, Jim Radar, that's actually kind of cool. I'm going to sign up for that, right? Like, I was trying to plant the seeds earlier.
Starting point is 00:10:25 So I think the sales pitch to people that weren't, already involved was actually a little better than them explaining it to the people that are already involved. Does that make sense? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Uh, I, but I just enjoyed it. I think I was talking to Nate briefly too. And he had, Nate was like very touched of how like much they gave him his flowers. Like, like, Tommy specifically, like, you know, really selling how, you know, I think, I'm sure Tanner did too, but like, I think Nate said that because I had was DM and Nate about something else. And he was like, I'm still in shock of how like
Starting point is 00:10:58 They're like dude you're you're legit Maybe it wasn't our group chat I don't remember it was I was there So many different fuck well I had a separate one too His name is Mark now Yeah that was that was Mike I know you don't listen but that was That was fucked up buddy I'm like who the fuck's Mark? Like there's no Mark here oh yeah yeah I didn't know you were working with
Starting point is 00:11:15 Mark is building your website They weren't they fucking worked with Nate Big big big Nate there buddy Wrong again Mike Yeah fucking Um all right So that was that. I booked my flights for home gym con.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I got that going. Those flights are so annoying now. Like, I used to always be able to just, I don't know, I don't know if it's something recently changed. There's always like this bait and switch. But now it's like,
Starting point is 00:11:41 here, here's your $300 flight. Oh, you don't get anything. You can't pick any seats. You can't pick anything. You will tell you what your seats are loading, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:48 when you're loading. And I'm like, fuck, dude. Like, I mean, I guess. So I think out the door was like $3. I was like $3.80 to get to Louisville and back. So it's,
Starting point is 00:11:55 is what it is. And then they have a thing where they was trying to... I basically applied to get a media pass to go early on Home GymCon on Thursday. I'm not sure if I actually could accept it or not. But like it was a whole like in-depth, like, you know, list what your content is, list of what you would do there. And I kind of like sold more of this podcast in combination with the no wine seller Instagram page because like I'm quote unquote not a reviewer and, you know, a, influencer. No, there was another
Starting point is 00:12:28 It's an influencer. I don't really create content. I just kind of highlight my friends and highlight shit I like. But one of the things I listed was like all the people in the home gym community that are pretty big names that we've interviewed. And I like, it was pretty, it was like a paragraph of just names. And I'm like, I looked back at it and I was kind of like, damn, like we've done a lot in three. We interviewed a fair amount of people in this field, you know, that are,
Starting point is 00:12:55 90% of them were crew too. So I just thought that was really cool to see. And I don't know, maybe a little, I mean, I'm friends with the guys that are approving or denying. So I assume I'm going to approve, but if not, whatever. I just thought it was really cool to kind of sit there and kind of have to jot down, like, why I feel I deserve a media pass from home gymcon and kind of leveraging this podcast and all we've done here. And then before we rate the episode, the other big news this week, so at least in New York, Hogan's crew cards are starting to make it out. out the ones I saw mailed out. I think I saw, uh, saw big Jesses, big Dan's and Stepan's came all today. It looked like. And I saw a few others from out, out in the Midwest
Starting point is 00:13:34 there. But I thought it was kind of cool. I think at one point, like his story, like three of them in a row were a New York resident crew, New York resident crew, New York resident crew. So I did enjoy that. Um, so Hogan, great job with that. We'll see you this weekend. Um, if you're listening to this, you already, Arnold will have come and gone. So telling you to remember to go find Hogan and get your crew card packs. We won't do any good, but we still appreciate it. And I think that's most of Gen Tops except right in last week's episode. So Big Steve, you want to hit us off with what you thought of last week's
Starting point is 00:14:08 Masnonomics episodes so we can remember what it was and give it a good old rating? Yeah, definitely. I actually, I kind of actually really liked the perspective of Jim Radar kind of towards the crew. because to be honest with you when it came out like I really did not get it. So like here and then like discuss like the leaderboard and like seeing like you and Hogan being on the leaderboard and like going bad head to head for it. I'm like, oh wow. So it kind of really got me engaged and got me going on the reviews.
Starting point is 00:14:38 That being said, I don't have enough equipment to get such a high score. So because of that, I'm going to have to rate it. I'm going to have to go with five out of five blips on my. radar. Nice. I was what is your gym name on gym radar just so the fans can go look it up? Because I was trying to look it up earlier and I'm like it's those under bam bam. It wasn't over Steve. I'm like because I want that to be the new thing I do is before I get the guest on like up let me spend five minutes looking at their gym radar and I couldn't find it. And that's a good idea and I think we should actually going forward.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Linking the guest questions. Yeah. It is actually a cool idea. My my gym is called the 803 barbell club, which was not I wasn't thinking about it when I made it. but it's my wife's and I's anniversary and the day my son was born was both August 3rd but in different years but everybody I tell they're like oh Massachusetts is 803 I'm like no I went to area code first as well um I mean I don't want to say that if I came across saying one was no no you shit on shamish you shit on massonomics episode yeah apparently you're a debby fucking downer bud I am exhausted and I am grumpy.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Same. No, I think you're right. I was trying to, I guess the point I was trying to make was each had their own place, right? I think that explaining it to crew was very important and talking about the leaderboard and all that,
Starting point is 00:16:06 but then the other one was a sales pitch that was also very important to people that might not already be involved. I don't remember a lot. I had some notes, but again, I'm also going through the backlogs. So, like, as soon as I finish that, I listen, like, three other episodes before we record this. So I don't remember what's what.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Oh, yeah. The episode I'm on right now, Keith, you might like this. Oh, yeah, where, yeah. The backlog you're talking about, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm on the backlog. I'm on episode 182. You're actually getting into interviews now, though, aren't you? Not yet.
Starting point is 00:16:39 No, that's coming probably in about a few months. Nice. But I want to point out that Tommy says something like, oh, do you ever get this? and Tanner goes, you mean gout? And then they both talk about how they don't know what gout is. And then Tanner historically. And then Tommy goes, we'll never know. Nobody who will ever know what gout is.
Starting point is 00:17:02 That is really funny. And that would have been like circa 2016, 17. It was 2019. I wanted to put it in the chat today, but I forgot. But now that we're talking. Yeah, you need to put that because that's, I'd say five years. Was it 23 or 24? He got gout bad.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah. Yeah. We'll never know what Gout is. Quote Tommy. That's great. I bet they forgot they even had that conversation. That's really funny. I enjoy that.
Starting point is 00:17:30 I'll give that five out of five foot pain. Nice. Nice. Good old gout. Man, I'm drawing a blank on all the other chit chat. I know because it's like, I've listened to two other podcasts and two pre-shows since then. And it's like, well, I can't talk about pre-show. I can't talk about stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I can't talk about shit and like, you know, group. chats. It's like, well, I don't know what I could talk about. But as always, the boys hit it out of the park. You know, if you haven't listened, you should. Five out of five, uh, big boobyed girls at the Arnold. I remember her. I was there for that. Oh, did you see the, the rate, the, the, the meme I posted today.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I, because they re-shared her as their main post. Yeah, I saw. Yep. I did the radar. That was, I was, I was like chat, JAPT is not going to allow the actual Jim. I've been using Jim and I a little bit more now. It's, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:18 have good luck and bad luck differently to the two different sources, but AI saved my ass today at work. We're putting in layman's, like we're putting in a new product and there was just a lot of troubleshooting that like the direction manual and like stuff, you were not going to get the answer from just using the instructions that came with it. So there were a lot of if this, you know, if this, then that kind of thing that, you know, I was like 90% there with just like, you know, my. knowledge of the situation, but then, like, I don't understand enough about this new product I was putting in to, like, well, I don't fucking know how this works yet. Like, I know the general
Starting point is 00:18:57 concept, but like, it's got its own rules. You get this whole new thing. So chat, you be here. I think my, yeah, my boss was using Jim and I. And it kind of like, we all like, you know, the three of us together, me and my boss and Jim and I, we got there finally. But that was about six hours straight with no breaks for lunch. And the next thing I know, it's like, oh, my day is over. I'm going home. But yeah. Affiliates. You got anything good. to say about them, Joey? As usually, obsidian, plate snacks, and bell fed strength, use code unpaid,
Starting point is 00:19:25 save 10%. That's what we like. Big Steve, what do you got for us, buddy? Ready for the ad read? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, I did a really bad job of sitting you up there. What affiliates do you want to talk about? I got all the affiliates.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Oh, I forgot. He's not looking at the script like we are at home. He's not like, you know. If you haven't said it, Joey and I are tired. It's all good. I get it. We'll be better. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:56 So my ad read is supposed to be like an infomercial type of read. So bear with me. Whatever you got. All right. Do you have no friends? Do you lift in a garage or a basement by yourself? Do you wish you could have genuine relationships with no strings attached? Well, for $3 a month, you too could have real-life friends with like-minded interests.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Head over to masonomics.com for all your apparel. Jim Flags, magnets, and of course, drink spotters. Friends sold separately as long as you're not a dick. Nice. I love it. Good caveat at the end there. Every once in a while a dick shows up and they just kind of see themselves out at some point. It's always nice.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Charge back, please. I just can't get, I can't wait to get back to fighting. Row, row, row your boat. Yep. You want to get the guests on the horn? Yeah. Big Stevie there, buddy. I'm here, boys.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Awesome. Well, let's go ahead and make it easy. Name just to know everyone knows your name, and then Instagram, are they going to find you up? All right. My name is Steve, big Steve.
Starting point is 00:21:00 My Instagram is Bam Bam underscore 168, and that's all I got for socials. Nice. Love it. Easy peasy. And what did you say your gym was? Because I was 804. 803.
Starting point is 00:21:12 803. That's why I wasn't popping up. There we go. Good deal. Awesome. Yeah. you're going to be the first. Tell us about your gym on gym radar.
Starting point is 00:21:25 All right. Well, my gym is kind of in its early stages, but not. It's on its, I had to guess it's on its third iteration within a year. It started on a second floor, my house as just a tonal. Did it fit out of the bed?
Starting point is 00:21:44 If you took it off the wall, it fit under the bed, but that sucker was heavy. Um, yeah, that we maxed that out, um, in about six months with never lifting before in my life, um, because the deadlift and everything else only goes up 200 pounds. So I sold that and bought a barbell on a squat rack and went from there. And that turned into moving everything down to my basement because deadlifts on the second floor was not a good idea. Nope.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Got some crack drywall on the kitchen to show for it. And it's a growing pains literally. Yes, exactly. And that turned into blowing out a wall in my basement to make room for a belt squat and a rower and everything else. And here we currently are. I'd love to hear that. How big of a hit? So you bought a tonal for like three or four grand and then you sell it on marketplace.
Starting point is 00:22:36 How big of a hit do you actually take on that? Like did you even get 50%? Well, so I could have got 50%, but I went the nice guy route and sold it to a coworker for, $1,000 instead of $1,500. I think I paid three when I bought it. Gotcha. And you're recording from your gym right now. Yes. I'm in, I am in,
Starting point is 00:22:57 no podcast in the squat rack, except for in this gym. Okay, so big question. What brought you to Massonomics? That is a strange one because it's very random. I actually, my first meeting with Massanomics was
Starting point is 00:23:15 obviously on Instagram, and it was seeing when I think when the Drink Spotters came out, the crew meme contest, I forget who made it, but there was the, there was the video where he went to bench press and just let go. Kevin.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Kevin. Yeah. So I saw that video and I was like, that was the funniest thing I've ever seen and never looked into it again. It just popped up, I think, on Reels and I completely went, okay,
Starting point is 00:23:41 next. And two years later, I saw them again and saw they hit a podcast. And that was right around the time when I was starting to do my gym, so it must have been the algorithm just doing its magic. I was like, oh, I'm sick of the same sick songs every day. I'll listen to this podcast, and here we are.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Nice. And you made it out to Crew Falls this year or two without, you know, seemingly here. And, you know, were you still crew at Liftford-Live-Easy time? I know you didn't even go to Liff-R-Eaf, but I'm just trying to, like, figure out the timeline of. Yeah, so I think I signed up crew last May. So this may will be one year.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Nice. So you would have been pretty early to have gone to, well, but that's awesome. What was the driving force to get you motivated to drop the money to head out to Crew Falls and meet a bunch of strangers? Because you wouldn't have been to Home JimCon. You wouldn't have been to the Arnold. I don't know if you,
Starting point is 00:24:36 I don't think you had a New England meet up at that point yet. So you just, you hopped on a plane and came out and met 40 strangers. Yeah, exactly. It's kind of weird. Well, that's not, it's not weird. It's just, I guess it's probably pretty average for the average adult, but I pretty much get up for work at like average 3.30, 4 a.m. every single day. And I typically work six to seven days a week. So when I'm not working, I go home, I live for two hours and then I hang out with my family for two hours and then I go to bed. So it was like, wow, there's these group of guys online that are really cool and everybody seems really nice and fun. And it'd be cool to seeing as I can talk to them on Discord to at least meet them. And that goes back to my ad.
Starting point is 00:25:16 breed where I go, do you want some friends? I'd like to make friends one day. Friends would be cool. No, that's awesome. But yeah, it was good to meet. I don't think I, you know, didn't get a chance to talk to you too much. It's one of those things where like, I was like, who is this guy? Like, there was like, I knew like 80% of the faces and I tried to, you know, meet the other
Starting point is 00:25:39 guys. but then it's like, you get just, all right, I've met four new people today. I'll try to do two more tomorrow. I don't want to like, it's my whole night being meeting new people. Sorry if I didn't get a chance to talk to you too much, but tonight we ought to be able to make up for that. No, it's all good. I'm kind of a shy person to begin with. I need a little liquid courage to get me going anyways.
Starting point is 00:25:56 So imagine that, Keith, but it's Gary. And he's holding your place at the airport for you. Because I had no clue. Because Gary had only been crew for like two or three months. And then he's like, where are you? Like, I'm just like, I'm answering DMs on Discord. Like I know the guy. Yeah, that was wild.
Starting point is 00:26:16 So where do you live? Where are you from? I'm like that. It's got to be Texas, right? Yeah, Texas. Exactly. I'm from Massachusetts. Central Massachusetts, actually, closer to Wista, as the locals would say.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Wistda. About 40 minutes from Boston, about 25 minutes from Providence. So I'm kind of right in the middle of everything. How do you say water? What was that? Sorry. How do you say water? Do you want me to say it like a townie or do you want me to say it how I would
Starting point is 00:26:46 said. I'm trying to pinpoint where water comes from. That's Jersey. I think Jersey. I'm going for water. I think Boston's more of the water type of place. Which is that, that's a whole unique thing of itself. I watched the, it was like the dumbest reel. Do you ever, I hate when stuff is stupid fake. Like, there was this guy who made a reel about, um, saying the biggest mystery in the world is what town the movie, the town took place in, which clearly it's not a mystery. It's like the most obvious thing in the world. And like,
Starting point is 00:27:19 but the whole real was just making fun of like it not being known and just showing like places in Boston and saying like, oh, you don't know where this is. And I was just like, like I, like, it may be smile, but it also annoyed me because it's just like, this is such a fucking waste of time. Like this was a complete waste of a video. And I'm just like, you wasted fucking like 45 seconds of my day and I want it back. And I watched it all. And now I wasted 45 seconds of everyone else's day explaining it to us. Yeah, I think, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:27:50 No, you go ahead. No, I was just to say, one of my favorite things about the accent is, like, if you talk to people that are from Boston, which I'm in construction, I work in Boston every day, the people that are like Boston people, they don't really talk like that. But like,
Starting point is 00:28:03 if you talk to somebody from Southie, that stereotypical accent that they do in like all the Boston movies, we're like, oh my God, that's the worst Boston accent I ever heard of. That is your South Boston accent. To a T, you're like, So bad. You're like, are you pretending to have a Boston accent right now? Because that's impressive. Did you just watch a movie and someone told you that's how you should talk?
Starting point is 00:28:24 Yes, exactly. Awesome. So you have said you had that Hall of Fame card. Where do you think you're out on that now? All right. So I have one, two, three, four, five, six achievements so far. This will be number seven. Nice. And I was looking at it last night. I think by Lift Hard Live Easy this year. I think probably will be at cup level. Nice, nice. And you should on power lifting then this year? Yes. Yep.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Nice. Nice. Will that be your first meet or have you done some? I'm assuming you said you just started lifting within the last year. So that will be my third meet. Oh, okay. Make a long story short. You've been busy.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Yeah. So a friend of mine, well, coworker of mine, he also lifts. He's lifted for a long time. And I told him I was listening to Massonomics. He's like, oh, yeah, those guys are great, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, why don't you do powerlifting? I'm like, all right, let's do it. You tell me when to do it.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I'll sign up and we'll do it. So he picked a meet and I signed up for it. Like three months went by and I'm like, hey, did you sign up for that meet? He's like, oh, no, that meat is tested. I can't go to that one. I'm like, oh, okay. Well, you told me order it, whatever. So he says, sign up for this one and we'll go.
Starting point is 00:29:35 So I do, obviously. Now I'm signed up for two meets. And I'd reach out like two months later. And I'm like, hey, man, did you sign up for the second meet? He's like, no. I'm like, all right, well, it's sold out. So I ended up doing, your, your coworker, like,
Starting point is 00:29:48 your coworker's a douchebag. That kind of sucks. That sounds like that guy might suck. I don't know that or not, but like, that is the complete, like, hit of me of a lazy ass jackhole. Like,
Starting point is 00:29:58 that annoys the shit out of me. I hate lazy friends. So I ended up doing both meets back to back, because I felt like a jerk too, because I'm like, well, now I took somebody's spot. Like, I don't want to,
Starting point is 00:30:08 like, somebody could have signed up for one of the other meat, like, you know, so I'm just going to go for it and do them both. how far apart were they from they were they from each other? The one was on Saturday and one was on Sunday. Oh damn. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:20 That's crazy. That's so close. That's wild. So which one did so what was so one? I'm assuming one was Powerl America or USAPO maybe. What was the other one? One was the first one was RPS, an RPS meet. And the second one was Powerlifting America. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Nice. That technically you probably weren't even the funny thing is you probably were technically disqualified for the power of the numerical when the second you did the RPS meet like no one gives a fuck but like for real though you would have been so that's actually kind of funny is that co-worker hunter no like as soon as we started talking about that he went on camera and I was like
Starting point is 00:31:03 oh no yeah that's why I did they're like hey that's uh that's a Kentucky guy yeah I'm just checking Let's see. Let's see. So which one do you have more fun at, the RPS or the PowerLut America? It's, I had more fun lifting at the RPS with, you know, the deadlift bar and the squat bar and all that. But I honestly think that the, the Powerlifting America, meat, was actually more fun atmosphere-wise. Because the RPS was just like, you know, show up.
Starting point is 00:31:36 They had speakers and whatever. And the RPS had, like, a light show, like a live stream. So, like, my wife could watch. watch at home with the kid. Like it was, it was definitely more engaging, but the lifting was kind of like very strict. Like, not like so much like the judging, but just in general, like being there was like very strict, like how they held it, you know? And then, uh, just, I'm going to move on in a second. I'm just curious of the whole, the back to, how did you, were you so new that you didn't strategically understand how stupid of an idea that was? Or did you kind of like go, I'm going to do like
Starting point is 00:32:06 80% on one day as like a warm up and then I'll go balls to the walls the next day? Or did you go balls to the wall on the first day and then just kind of lay up the second day like how do you how'd how'd you go about that um so day one uh my total was 11 45 and i i went to i think i definitely left something on the table with squat but not on purpose that was totally just that's how it worked out i went three for three on squat three for three on bench and two for three on deadlift because my buddy the co-worker that was that signed me up for everything he was like he's like you should you're looking strong, you're looking strong. I pulled 475.
Starting point is 00:32:44 He's like, you should go for 520. And I'm like, 520, yeah? You think? He's like, yeah. Remember what I said about having me in a dips kid over here? Yeah. So he's like, he goes. And I bet that was,
Starting point is 00:32:54 hmm. Like, Keith is so mad right now. Well, that's a big job. Like, if it was scalable, like was it was that jump bigger than what you made from your first to your second?
Starting point is 00:33:03 No, not at all. So I think, so you made a, you made a big job. Okay. I made massive jumps on everything. So I think my first attempt deadlift was,
Starting point is 00:33:09 less stupid then. Yeah, I think my first time deadlift was 405. So you did 405, 475 and then missed 525. Yeah. And then 500 would have been definitely in the bag, it sounds like. 500 would have been sweet. So then my second day, I went three for three on squat. I went two for three on bench.
Starting point is 00:33:27 And deadlift I went two for three because I was like, well, I want to hit that 500, but I didn't take into a. That's a fucking stiff bar, bud. Yes. I did not take that into account. So I went even more bonehead move. And I said to my buddy, I'm like, well, I'm going to, try to make a dead. This is honestly gone, but I go, I'm going to make a deadlift bar out of the
Starting point is 00:33:44 straight bar and I'm going to pull sumo for the first time ever in my life. Not even in the warmup room, just on the platform. Just on the platform. I just went for it. But I pulled the same numbers that I pulled the day before. I maxed out at 475 again. So I was happy with that. And I'm like, all right. Hey. We have some baseline numbers. So now your goal needs to be like, I don't know. So that was however long ago, do you feel that you've gotten significantly stronger since then, are you kind of about the same? Or just to, like, give you an idea of what you should do at lift hard.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I think my technique has gotten a lot better. Like, I definitely understand how to brace now, which I did not go into those meets. So if I haven't gotten stronger, at least I've got the technique down, which I think is definitely working in my favor. So definitely going to pull 500 on your third attempt or your second, depending on how it goes. That's the plan. I pulled, so I pulled 500 at Crew Falls, actually. Oh, but it was on bumper plates with a deadlift bar.
Starting point is 00:34:38 So, like, whatever. that in comp. I mean, the comp will still be a deadlift bar but calibrated plates or the people say they don't make a difference
Starting point is 00:34:47 but they fucking, yeah, it makes the deadlift harder by some percentage for sure. So yeah, that'd be cool. I can't wait to see a pull 500 and comp.
Starting point is 00:34:55 That'll be dope. I'll be happy for it. All right. So you've been around a year or so. What's that one piece of merch you've seen? What's that one thing you saw? Our crew falls or on Instagram that you're like,
Starting point is 00:35:05 damn, I want that and you can't. So I think the one thing, that I really wanted, but I actually was able to make that happen, was the power drinking team. And I was able to get that into a, the audio listers, I don't see it,
Starting point is 00:35:18 but I got it into a banner behind me, but I would say that the real one thing would be anything with a Lyft logo. Mm-hmm. That stuff was so cool. That was like one of the best logos. I hate that they had to kind of like distance themselves from that. And it's just,
Starting point is 00:35:32 it's my favorite. I have it on my car. I have it on my log. I think I have, I think I have two of those emblems left that I'm like saving, for like a rainy day. Because like obviously my, my cars were getting really fucking old.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I'm going to get a new car at some point. And the dress is going to have a lift sticker on it somewhere. So that's kind of, that's good stuff though. The lift logo is dope. And I, I mean, maybe they'll bring lift shorts back.
Starting point is 00:35:54 You know, I don't think we had lift shorts. Did we have lift shorts this year? I can't remember if we had lift shorts this year. We've had lift shorts at Liftford of Easy. I just remember it was this year or the previous year. This year was the, I don't think we had banned merch this year,
Starting point is 00:36:05 except the shirt. Last year was the band shorts. I don't know. either way, you have a good opportunity to find something this year, this summer. Yeah, I hope so. We know your supporting membership number. So you sent out the questionnaire to a handful of people. How'd that go?
Starting point is 00:36:26 It was actually tough. Obviously, like you got your like, as you probably saw, you got like your wife, your siblings, your siblings, significant others. And it was like, all right, so am I going to send this to a bunch of co-workers that all we do is bus chops all day in a construction field. Like, they're not going to get it. He sucks so much dick.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Yeah. His nickname is his nickname is cocksucker. Oh, so I'm funny on a daily basis in my face. Like, I can only imagine what these people would have done on a thing. They would have never even, you know what to be?
Starting point is 00:37:01 Like on a document, they would have never felt the repercussions of. I do appreciate you and not sending them to those guys. That's probably a smart. But so to your, to your, to your family and you know what did you how did that go as far as like hey will you fill this out for me it is this what did you explain this as so it was actually uh it was actually pretty easy
Starting point is 00:37:17 because i just said you know how i went like halfway across the country to meet a bunch of random people i've never met for my life and they're like yeah i'm like so i kind of like i'm like hey you know i didn't really talk to them that much so now they want to figure out why i went there so uh if you could just fill this out so they have something to talk to me about that would be really cool. I love it. All right. So are you familiar with least fun, most fun?
Starting point is 00:37:45 I am. It's a game. Did you want to explain it to anybody? Yeah. So least fun, most fun is I'm going to get a topic, and I have to explain the least fun thing about it and the most fun thing about it. Love it. I'm going to go, least fun, most fun, starting your gym career with a tonal.
Starting point is 00:38:05 I would say the least fun. fun thing about it is the machine itself tries to give you cues that are not very descriptive in like a short little blurb so when you go to do a deadlift and you're trying to focus on like the youtube videos and forms you've seen and it says like keep the bar path straight you're like well the hell does that mean like and you're just trying to figure out form by yourself you know um the most fun thing about it was uh just getting into lifting in general with it and because that was always my thing like i've always wanted to go to the gym but I just
Starting point is 00:38:37 you kind of felt like time at this point probably yeah it was always time or like you kind of felt like I always felt like kind of intimidating going to the gym because I walk in and like as probably like newbie as it sounds like I'm like there's such a thing as programming
Starting point is 00:38:50 like there's like a there's like a such a thing as like this is what you do you don't like two meets in a row back to back hey hey next year we might be doing strong man and power lifting if the lift hard Libby 5 happens fingers crossed yeah so I think the most out of the way
Starting point is 00:39:06 The most fun thing about it definitely is just being able to be taught, like, programming, so to speak. Like, all right, like, you know, do like an upper accessory, back accessory. Do your main lift and, like, move on, you know. But I don't know if I needed to pay $4,000 to learn that, but here we are. Yeah. And what was the, uh, was it like a yearly description or was it? Yeah, I was going to say that that's almost $4,000. Oh, it's way, it's way more than that if you tallied all up because it's like,
Starting point is 00:39:33 you buy the machine, I think with ship, it was like, I think I paid three grand for it. And then if you want the bench that comes with it and all the other yada, yada, yeah, that comes with it. It's like another 500 bucks plus shipping. You get the machine and then there is a contract that you have to pay for at least
Starting point is 00:39:47 a year's worth of membership at 50 bucks a month. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's about as much as the tonal. The tonal, the peloton. So juggernaut is $500 a year. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:39:59 so I have juggernaut now. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. And Barbo. Oh. Is your bar path still straight, though, at least? I mean, did the tonal fix that for you?
Starting point is 00:40:12 No, dude. It did not fix that for me. It's worse. Honestly, like, lifting with a barbell probably fixed everything, to be honestly. I used to tweak my back. It was like a monthly occurrence where, like, I could barely walk for a week. On the tone? On that thing?
Starting point is 00:40:27 Yeah. Because if you do, you really can do like barbell dead lifts. You can do back spots on it and bench press on it. Like you, I mean, if you wanted to lift it to 200 pounds, yeah, you can do all the main lifts. But there's the biggest problem with it is it's like a functional trainer. So you flip the arms forward and to set up and put them to the ground to do a deadlift. But if you put the bar up against your shins like you would a deadlift, your head is hitting the screen. So now your bar is pushed away from your legs and you're lifting more not with the proper muscles, you know?
Starting point is 00:40:58 So it's like, it's kind of a funky thing. That's very awkward. My deadlift is kind of like that already, so. Oh, okay. I have, like, the shittiest form yet somehow have a very good deadlift. I don't understand it. I think we talked about it before, where it's people are like, oh, the barbell scraped my shins.
Starting point is 00:41:14 And I'm like, the barbell has never touched my shins in my entire deadlifting career. I don't understand what you're talking about. Oh, I have a glassback. Interesting. So then my question would be. who would you train with? So you're going out for your next big lift. You got somebody to slap your back.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Who is that person? Oh, that's an easy one. I think it would absolutely be Huck Finn. That would be my guy. That dude can get, I think, anybody amped up, except for maybe Keith. I don't think Keith is a Huck Finn guy in that sense. I think he was.
Starting point is 00:41:54 I think he wants to be left alone when he's going to lift. It's funny. I was looking at pictures of the Arnold. and all of the pictures with me and Huck Finn. I spent the most time with like four people, and it was Huck Finn, Dan Bell, and Tommy and Tanner. And look at all the photos and that's all there is is the four of us. So like, yeah, I could see that.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Yeah. Yeah. What a crowd too. Even Karen would be like a pretty good, like, go get him. Yeah, she's a maniac. Like, I bless her heart for putting up with him all of them. I'm honest to God. Like, I know it's just a personality online, but there's got to be some of that at home, too.
Starting point is 00:42:39 All right. Good answer. Good answer. All right. As far as occupation goes, as little or as much as you want to talk about it, what do you do? I'm a crane operator slash rigger. I'm mostly rig on the day to day because I can't stand being in the crane. Yeah, I move heavy shit all day.
Starting point is 00:42:59 You don't like being high up? Um, that doesn't bother me. It's just boring. If you're sitting in the glass box all day, just being told what to do on the radio, you have no idea how boring that really gets. Like, I can't say how many times I've almost fallen asleep in the crane just sitting there because it's like, it's the sign comes through the window just right. And you got the AC set just right. And you're like, wow, this is a nice spot to take a nap, dude. So comfy. So what's, uh, what's the difference between rigging and operating? So the rigor is typically the guy who goes from the hook on. So my responsibility is to get the pieces onto the crane, direct the crane where to go. But my majority of my job is to take the equipment and move it without the machinery. So on average, I'm taking like 40,000 pound pieces of equipment and moving them throughout a building and setting them up where the customer wants it right on right on the point. And you do that sumo?
Starting point is 00:43:59 yes, sumo, of course. Only in the first try. I made Keith laugh. I appreciate that. I made you both laugh with that one. I was just, I got distracted there for a second. One of my buddies,
Starting point is 00:44:14 so the Strongman show that I just did, they finally updated like the professional pictures. Like there's a guy that does them for free basically and puts him on his site like a couple weeks later. And my friend texted me a picture of Chris Mark, just deep throat in a banana in like 4K quality. And I'm just like my mind is running. Like it's already a meme.
Starting point is 00:44:33 But like how to like what to caption it. Like it's amazing. And I give him so much shit. And I feel bad because he's going to be so. I'm going to have to make, I'm going to make like, I'm going to make like I got to focus in on big Steve here. But goddamn I had to.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Is that the worst feeling? You're like, oh God, I could torture this guy with this picture. And I have to do it. I really don't want to. Yeah. At least got to get one good one in him. I've already got ideas.
Starting point is 00:44:58 I already got to. Yeah. I'm so excited. I'm so happy right now. Where'd Bam Bam come from? We didn't talk about that yet, right? No, we haven't. So that actually came from work when I first. So I've actually worked.
Starting point is 00:45:11 That made you hit something. Yeah. So I've worked at the same place for, geez, 12 years now. So I started with these guys when they might even know. It might be more or less than 12 years, but give or take. I started with them when I was 18, basically sweeping floors and gone into the position I'm in. So when they first started taking me out of the shop and bringing me into the field, my solution, everything was like, hey, that piece is going to fall off the dolly, like,
Starting point is 00:45:38 straight and I'd go and get a sledgehammer and just slam it straight. And they're like, all right, we have jacks, dude. Like, you're ruining the equipment. Please stop. And then that turned into, like, hitting cars and everything else. Like, oh, there's a car in the way. And then I come flying at an o'er and hit it. It's just, yeah. I've tried to back off the bam, bam, but it's not working out so hot. So is it only a work nickname? I mean, you kind of adopted it in your own Instagram, but just like your family,
Starting point is 00:46:06 your wife doesn't call you Bam Bam or your kids. Nobody at home calls me that, but it probably is. I'm sure you guys saw in the Discord. I'd knock my shed down because my wife offhand mentioned that the shed should fall down. So, yeah, it's smash first, to ask questions later, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:46:24 I don't disagree. Actually, I don't disagree with that. Yeah, we got to, we got to take that down. What if I set this up here and move this around here? No, no, no, no. I just push. Exactly, yeah, done. See this.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Watch me. I just push it. Fall over. Problem solved. Oh, were you, were you part of the crew with us that went to the wrong damn pizza ranch and crew falls? I have some Instagram copy and pasted notes over.
Starting point is 00:46:51 So that looks like something that was submitted. Yeah. So I went, um, it's actually kind of funny. So after Los Campione's, I was just like, oh, I'll just kind of like bomb around in the area and walk around. So I like killed time, walked around. And I'm like, oh, yeah, it's about time. So I'll head over there. And I walked across the street.
Starting point is 00:47:07 And the Phillips were walking out generally and Jonathan. And they're like, they saw my sweatshirt and they're like, are you looking for peach ranch? I'm like, yeah, it's right behind you. And they're like, this is the wrong one. I'm like, can I get a ride? Yeah. I will say that Tanner Tommy kind of forgot to tell us. Like, I mean, the address was right, but they didn't really be like, because everyone was staying right next to the last campaignanos.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And then the pizza ranch was 15 minutes the other direction by Tommy's house. And they, you know, forgot to say that. So, yeah, that was funny. I also was a culprit of getting that wrong. Yeah, you went all the way in, right? You and like, oh, yeah, no. A group of you guys went in and paid. We legit paid and had to ask the guy.
Starting point is 00:47:48 There was like six. Like, I think he just thought we were like a party, like a big party that all paid at once. And he was like, oh, yeah, I can refund you. And then it was like six guys in a row. wearing massonomics hoodies asking for their $14 back. And this guy had to be like, these motherfuckers. Like I should, I, and if he said no, I wouldn't care. I'm like, okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:48:03 15 bucks is gone. I got to go. My friends are waiting for me. Did you know Jonathan and generally at the time? No, not at all. Dope. So you just climbed into a stranger's vehicle because they had matching sweatshirts. Yep, exactly.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Welcome to crew. Yeah, welcome to crew. Exactly. That is a good way to think about it. That is pretty dope. I show up with the airport in Aberdeen and just like, sure, I'm in your car now. I think Jonathan specifically said, not worried about being murdered crew, am I right? So in referencing that story, obviously.
Starting point is 00:48:40 That's really funny. Big Brandon and, well, everyone that you had graciously covered some of the meals there one night. And we didn't even know it. You'd drop that credit card down and picked up a big old tab. We were waiting for the girl to come back, the waitress to come back with our bills, like, for an hour. And she's like, oh, no, so the gentleman over there took care of it. And I think it was funny, too, because it was like, whatever,
Starting point is 00:49:04 describe her describer she gave, described, whatever distinguishing marker she gave was, like, shirt related, I think. And I'm like, they're all wearing the same fucking shirt. Yeah. He's got a beer shirt on. Hey, he's got a beard and he's wearing a gym shirt. I'm like, oh, that guy. So, yeah, we really do.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Thanks. That was a good ice shirt. hell. I appreciate that. No, no worries. That's a, that's a little power move I learned from my buddies when, because I used to be a heavy drink. Well, still kind of am, but I used to be a really heavy drinker. And we went out every night after work and it was always a battle to see who could sneak the check. So it's just something I've always done. I don't really care. It's just, you know, you're hanging out with buddies and last thing I want everybody to worry about is something like that, you know. We appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:49:52 So you did start in a commercial gym briefly? The note said, How long was that last? Was that like a very short short? That was very short. There was actually like this super aggressive. Like honestly like now I would probably absolutely love it. But right by one of our old locations before I moved, it was like the nastiest like powerlifting, bodybuilding, most like aggressive gym you would ever seen in your life.
Starting point is 00:50:16 And you walk in the door and you're just like, okay, this is so intense. Like music's so loud like even like as somebody who works. day in like construction you're like this is hurting my ears the music is so loud like intense and like now i would probably go there and absolutely die for it i believe this is insane this is crazy this is so cool but at the time i'm like i feel so out of place as like a 300 plus pound guy like just trying to get like just trying to get fit you know but my tonal yeah that's that's a good segue to your to your weight story uh i mean i met you in person there's no way you're more than like 220 right now. So that's a hell of a, you know, that's a hell of an
Starting point is 00:50:58 accomplishment. You lost 100 pounds, it says. Yeah. I'm 240 right now. I've been trying to slowly gain cut. But yeah, I was well over 300, but that was all alcohol related. It was the, it was the average thing when you came back from working all day. You'd come back to the shop to a 30 rack and no one left until it was gone. And then somebody would leave and go get another 30 rack. So that was like a daily occurrence for about six years, which was a lot of fun and probably almost ruined my marriage. But there was a time where you go, okay, it's, it's time to grow up where it's to be an adult now. And that's where kind of the tonal came in. I mean, good on you. That's, yeah, it's incredible. And, you know, I actually wasn't going to
Starting point is 00:51:47 have a beer because of that story, but I saw you're having one, so I'm having one. Yeah. I took a, I took a good two years off and to like realize like, okay, you can drink and like be social. You don't need to drink and get blackout drunk every night, dude. Like, wake up. You used to do motocross? Yeah, amateur. Nowhere near any like sort of pro level or anything.
Starting point is 00:52:10 That was more just something to do. That was really fun. Really cool. It was, well, actually, I should say, it was fun until I bought my first house. And then when you're going over like a 30, 40, 50, 60 foot jump. And the first thought that you had is like, man, if I crash and can't go to work tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:52:27 like, I still need to pay my mortgage. Well, this, can I get disability if I do something stupid? Well, so my uncle is my boss. So I was told many times if you crash, I'm not helping you out. You shouldn't be doing that. You need to focus on work. So it's like, I'm screwed. If something happens here.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Yeah, I'll take up power lifting instead. That can't get wrong. That couldn't. at all. You weren't 300 pounds on a motorcycle, though, were you? No, that was just before I started my way that way. I was like 220, which is still pretty heavy for a motorcycle. So it's your uncle's fault that you, uh, you had the weight gain, it sounds like, it sounds like motorcross was keeping you slender. And then, actually 100%. Um, and I like, and I say this, get him shit tomorrow. I say this was all the love in the world,
Starting point is 00:53:14 but the day I turn 21, um, he's like, oh, you're old enough to drink. Like, let's go. We're going to the bar and it was downhill from there and that was actually, I think, the year the motorcross stopped. Well, I'm glad you found your journey. I mean, it's probably not the road you expected, but you're back down to a, you know, a body size you're happy with and you're lifting three or four days a week and still killing it at work.
Starting point is 00:53:40 So that's tough working seven days a week sounds like the worst thing ever though. I hope the overtime is paying for your next house because fuck that noise. I hate to sound cheesy, but this is definitely one of those situations where you say if you love what you do, I really do. Like, I go to work every day, like, pumped and excited to do what I'm going to do because it keeps me engaged.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Like, I'm like super ADHD, like impulsive. So like the thought of going to a job where like, for example, like you got to like pick something up and lower it down a 60 foot hole with all off the top of your head, like figure out how you're going to do it. Do it. Don't kill anybody. Don't drop anything on anybody. and get it done, that like a little bit of rush of adrenaline when you first push a piece over the hole,
Starting point is 00:54:24 you're like, all right, I figured it out. It's great. Everybody's okay. Like, we're good here. I love it. So it's all good. Yeah, that's the, I get to go to work, not I have to go to work attitude. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, I convinced myself with that a couple times. I hate to say it. We got another bassist in the crew on unpaid underrated. I saw that. I was shoehorned in at the tail end up. I saw that. I was shoehorned in at the tail. to the notes and I was like, God damn it. We got on. This is like this.
Starting point is 00:54:52 I mean, it's, it's obviously the 69th. Basist. Yeah. So, I mean, barely a bassist. It was like a high school thing when I, I wanted, really wanted to learn guitar. And I, the whole ADHD in me just could not comprehend it. I'm the same way. The one thing I never picked up.
Starting point is 00:55:11 I did pick up a bass at some point. ADHD was like, I can do this. And like, I learned a couple songs, a couple, you know, riffs and was like no this is fucking boring but it's because I wasn't good at it immediately and in ADHD you have to be good immediately else you'll give up as soon as you can
Starting point is 00:55:28 yeah so I learned like three songs on a regular guitar and a few of my buddies at the time are like hey we're starting a band and we're going to go do battle of bands like but we need a bassist and I'm like I don't know how to play bass and I don't own one and they're like well go get one and you'll figure it out so I'm like okay
Starting point is 00:55:46 So I went, I bought a base and we played at a local venue in Worcester called the Palladium. And it was horrible. Like I figured out, I'm like, all right, well, if they want a baseline, I can just basically play the same notes they're playing, but just play it down a bit and just kind of stick along and keep the beat. And it was rough. But it was good enough for them. We did not make it past the first round. what kind of music was it?
Starting point is 00:56:17 It was like a hardcore, like metalcore type of music. Yeah, you don't need a base for that. So good for you. Exactly. I got in there and I did what the boys needed me to do. And I was promptly kicked out of the band three weeks later because I'm like, dude, I don't know what I'm doing. I'm not getting base lessons.
Starting point is 00:56:32 This is what you get. That's the whole death clock joke, right? Like they don't need the bassist. He's just there for no reason. Yeah. So there's a funny story about, you trying to chop up your motorcycle with a hacksaw and there's a, you know, pissing in a closet all at the same time, maybe. There's a whole story there.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Who hasn't tried to piss in a closet? Oh, I've done, well, yeah, for sure. But it's so weird, because I can't tell, is it, maybe it is two separate stories. Those are two separate stories. Oh, okay, okay. I don't really care about the pissing. I thought it was a combination story. I'm very confused at first because people don't put the, the break with the, the break,
Starting point is 00:57:15 points in sometimes. All right. So the motorcycle story is that this was during my drinking days. I, so I bought two motorcycles at the same time because I want to do a charity ride with a bunch of the guys I worked with. So I bought one, was able to get it running and went on like an awesome charity ride like literally pulled this motorcycle out of a bush at a guy's house and got it running in three days to go on this ride. I had no breaks, figured it out, made it happen. And this This other one I bought was like way cooler. It was like a cafe racer style like Gold Wing, 1,100. And I really wanted this one.
Starting point is 00:57:53 I was like, this will be cool if I can get it running. So with the courage I got off the last bike, I thought I was going to get this thing working for the life of me. Could not figure it out. Finally threw in the towel after lots of money spent, put on Facebook Marketplace for like $400. I think I bought it for $500. So whatever, this guy shows up at my house.
Starting point is 00:58:13 he spent two hours in my driveway like it would start it just would not like stay running it was like a four carburetor system so he spent two hours in my driveway with my tools trying to get the thing to idle and he's like well I don't really want to buy it
Starting point is 00:58:27 if it's not going to run I'm like listen dude I bought it and it didn't run like I don't tell you this is the game just take it if you don't take it it's going in the dumpster as soon as you leave and he's like let me think on it I'm like I'm telling you right now if you don't take this motorcycle
Starting point is 00:58:42 like it's going to dumpster. So he's like, I'll think about it and I'll come back. So I was pretty intoxicated at the time. And I fired up my tractor. I picked it up, threw it my dumpster, smashed it to pieces with my tractor. And caught it on fire at the same time. It was full gas. And took a picture of it burning in my dumpster and sent as the guy. I was like, oh, you wasted your time, brother. She's gone. That's actually amazing. Do you remember if he had a response or do you just leave you on the scene? he he messaged me back and said that was the biggest waste of $400 I've ever seen I said I warned you all we had to do was just say well I'll take it for free
Starting point is 00:59:22 once you once you said you were going to throw it away like I don't I don't know that's just like if he said hey look I'll give you $50 I would have put on the trailer for him it was just the fact of like let me think about it I'm like dude I even I even said like I'll help you load it like whatever it takes to get this out of my yard because I'm just sick of looking at it you know I got a kick out of that. That was a... Who hasn't
Starting point is 00:59:45 woken up in a closet? Like, way back in my university days, that happened to me once. I like the fact that you knew exactly the story without me telling it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was staying at a friend's house. We were out. And she was like, I just crash at my place. And I was like, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:00:05 And then I just, like, went to bed and woke up, like, in the closet disoriented. And I was just like, this isn't the... washroom. That could have been bad. Well, and isn't it terrible too? Because I remember the dream. I had this dream that I was like outside, hanging out, having a great time. And I'm like, oh, this is a beautiful tree. I get woken up to, what are you doing? I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know. Why am I here? Why am I being yelled at? Luckily, I woke myself up in that instance. Like, I can't find the light switch.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I know this washroom. I've been in here before. Where's the light switch? Yeah. Yeah. All right. What else got there, Keith? Anything? Do you still dress up like a princess for your mom? Not lately. That's been a while.
Starting point is 01:00:51 I would. I would if I was asked to. Been a couple of years. I would do what I have to do. You know, she had some very kind words to speak of you. Okay. So, well, I'll say that'll be a good number for unpaid and underrated, actually. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:06 How old is your son? He is three this year. He's going to be four in August. of this year. Hell yeah. Does he come to the gym with you? You're there yet? Oh yeah. Yeah. He's he's at that age. He's got his own little, I'm looking at now, a foam weight bench. Um, and he usually comes down on chest days because that's usually when it works out. He's not at preschool. So he's coming down on the, and he's like, all right, Papa, you do your set. I do mine. So he goes and lays on his bench. And I'm like, hold on, dude, I got to work up to it. Like, let me get in there. And he's like, nope, you start now. And I'm like, I'm not even in the bench yet,
Starting point is 01:01:38 brother. Give me a minute. Simmer down, buddy. Going full send at three. Hell, yeah. All right. Let's see. Do we want to do a little FMK or else? Yeah, we can jump into that.
Starting point is 01:01:55 I got additional info. Well, we can always sort of. I still haven't switched additional info above FMK yet, but we'll forget that as one of these days. Hopefully, Nate, when he's listening, did switch it in a new questionnaire, though, but I bet we didn't. I think he's pretty busy these days. He is a busy.
Starting point is 01:02:10 He is a busy. He's a busy boy. Mark is a very busy guy. Yeah. Blip, blip, blip. All right, FMK. So I'm going to give you three topics here, and you're going to kind of rank them for me with which one you want to marry, which one do you want to kill?
Starting point is 01:02:24 So I have a few. I think I'm going to go, okay, let's go stores. So Costco, BJ's target. FMK, Costco's BJ's target. Can I just say all I saw was FMK BJs? And I was like, who the fuck put that? And I even, and I even, like, I even earlier, like, like, three hours ago when I looked at these, I was like, oh, I don't think I'm going to the store one. And then looking at it, like, at a glance, it just kept, like, I kept seeing just BJs.
Starting point is 01:02:51 And I'm like, I thought he didn't send it to an asshole place. Well, so it's, so first question, is BJs like an East Coast thing? Like, do you guys, like, does not clear what that is? I have a BJ's. It's basically knockoff Costco is what it is. So, well, I think, I think right off the bat, we're just going to, we're just going to, we're going to kill BJ's. because it's terrible. It wants to be Costco so bad. I think I'm going to F Costco, only because in my current situation, it's too far away. But it is literally a thing where I will
Starting point is 01:03:26 drive 45 minutes one way to go to Costco because it's that good. I couldn't do that. But I do. But so I guess that leaves us with marrying Target, which feels like a sin to even say at that point. But that is my life when you work as much as I do and like your highlight or your weekend. is going to a store, getting your meal prep or whatever, I think, I think we're marrying Target. I hate to say it. Working all those hours, you don't just say, fuck it. I'm going to get my shit delivered because I think if I was pulling in that overtime money,
Starting point is 01:03:56 I just wouldn't never step foot into a store again. Like if I work 50, even if I work, I can do anything to justify not leaving the house. I worked four hours overtime this week. I can, I can afford delivery fees this week. Yeah, I think my wife would kill me because like I am that guy. I am the most impulsive spend. like obviously like like we all are home you save so much money if you just ordered on live.
Starting point is 01:04:18 I know. Yeah. No, I know. It's just I don't know. But if it's shit you need, I guess. Yeah. And I'm very hands on. Like I love to like my problem is if I go to Costco, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:04:27 I'm not walking out of there spending less than 300 because I'm like, oh my God, look at this. Look at this coffee maker. I think everyone has to spend $300 when they leave there if they're actually like going for something. All right. Mount Rushmore, I guess is my turn. Um, had a few different ones, and they're all kind of the same ones we've always had.
Starting point is 01:04:47 So I think I went to go something new here. Um, Mount Rushmore of tool brands. Ooh. Well, I mean, obviously Milwaukee's got to be on there, right? Mm-hmm. I think you have to put, you have to put DeWalt on there. That's an obvious one. Now you're getting into the weeds, in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Only because my work and I have like a vicious, feud with it. I'm going to put Makito on there. My third one. Fourth, I think you're a fourth, yeah, sorry. My fourth one would probably have to be Ryobi. Not that I use it and I actually hate
Starting point is 01:05:29 the brand, but I feel like it really gets the average homeowner like a set of tools that are semi-decent. And there's so many, their ecosystem probably beats most people's for like the random shit you can actually use for like yard work and around the house and so much shit.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Like, they're garbage tools, but you could buy every single thing you'd ever want for under $1,000 and like never, you know, go without. Yeah, and I wish like, I wish the, the natural market, like, just never heard of Milwaukee because it's like insane. Like, they're like, oh, yeah, a drill and an impact on with no battery is now $600. You're like, what do you mean? I'll just steal it from somebody at work at this point. It's a good one.
Starting point is 01:06:18 I was actually kind of like, I wanted to, I'm glad you asked that because I saw it. And I was like, ooh, I would like to hear his answers on that. So I do appreciate that one being an answer. Additional, anything in the da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. No, nope, that's all good. All right, so I got some affiliates for you guys. Barbell Rescue, Home JimCon,
Starting point is 01:06:36 and apparel from the Strength Code Unpaid. It'll save you a little bit of money at all of those locations. go forward and prosper and use those. Sorry here. All right. Let's go with a little unpaid or underrated. So relatively new segment here. We came up with recently all by ourselves, not inspired by anything or anyone.
Starting point is 01:06:59 So I'm going to give Steve here a handful of topics, and he's got to decide if they're unpaid, which, you know, overrated. Nobody wants to be unpaid. And we're underrated, which, you know, pretty awesome. So unpaid or underrated teaching your sister how to drive stick. Oh, that is unpaid. That got me in so much trouble.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Yeah. I want to hear any funny stories that go along with that. So when we were kids, my dad had a Mustang. And she's four years older than me. So she had her license. Well, yeah, her license long before I did. And I, our parents' property when we were younger was big enough. Like you could you could drive a car around on it like not you know you weren't getting out of first
Starting point is 01:07:41 year but if you or me you could get into at least second or third and like spin around and have fun. So she really wanted to learn how to drive my dad's Mustang. So I'm like, I'll teach you how to drive it. Don't worry about a thing. So all I did was I just drove it out of the yard and drove it down the street and would just driving like as if I had a license. And I'm like, all right, you're watching me. As like a 12 year old or something you're saying?
Starting point is 01:08:04 Yes. Yeah. So she was like. So, and I mean, we grew up in like a small town. Like, you know, it's like a little farm town, but it was, uh, I pretty much drove her all around town. And I'm like, all right, you see how I'm doing this? You see how I'm doing this and blah, blah, blah. And as siblings do, I think we were out to dinner one night.
Starting point is 01:08:26 And she was just razzing me so hard in front of my parents. Like, they gave me so mad that I'm so mad to the point where I ratted myself out to try to get her in trouble. and like they're like, you're fucking idiot, dude. You just ratted yourself out, you know? That's he was actually really funny. Okay. FMK Badez.
Starting point is 01:08:50 You mean unpaid underrated or FMK? Yes. I don't know where I was, dude. Like, I know LMP there, but like, I'm fairly certain the podcast doesn't change. Well, I scrolled up to get some of the other. Ah, okay, yeah. And then I was like, because there was a good story I knew I wanted to get. Yeah, sorry, unpaid or underrated, but days.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Bades are the most underrated thing of all time. And actually, like, you could even, I don't want to run line here, but you could almost put them in the unpaid category because they will ruin pooping for the rest of your life. There's that, like, to the point where, like, you hold it to get home because you're like, I don't want to wipe myself. I want to dry myself, dude. Like, this is terrible. This is the worst experience in my life.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Like, oh, I feel like a disgusting human. I feel like an animal right now. So yes, I will say underrated as final answer, but yes, get one with caution for sure. Now, do you have like the full-blown toilet with a bidet or is like the little add-on toilet seat that's got the ties into the supply line? I have the dollar tree add-on, which is horrible because it's like always like you like sit down on the seat slides. You almost fall off. You like, whoa. How have you not found a good, like you love these so much.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Like you just pick out a good one and add it to your Christmas wish list and the old lady can just get you a state of the state of the yard. I was just about to say it's like the barrier for entry is so high. Like you get the adder piece and it's $80. You get like a bidet toilet seat that's nice or like a full on thing. You're talking like $400. Like that's a Texas power bar right there. I see. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Unpaid or underrated F1 racing. Oh, underrated. And I will also say it is more underrated now. Sorry to the PURS with the Drive to Survive series on Netflix, which is if you guys, I don't know if you're familiar, but it's kind of like the hard knocks of F1. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:10:50 it's the behind the scenes deep dive. It's great. Like, I've always kind of like watched it on and off, but like ever since I was a kid, I always watched it on and off whenever it was on. But now that it, like you have that drive to survive,
Starting point is 01:11:03 you're like invested in the like I could name probably almost name all 20 22 drivers this season so it's like to be able to like like I know guys that like with NFL like know every single player I'm like how the hell do you know that like I know 22 drivers like that's pretty good but like it's to to be able to like dig into the season like that is pretty cool so I really like the yeah it's awesome I'll do a bonus one real quick I usually don't do this many but uh if you don't, if you haven't seen it, then it was quick. Unpaid or underrated, the movie F1, the Brad Pitt movie from last year.
Starting point is 01:11:39 This is so hard to not ride the line on, dude. Like, if you're not an F1 fan, it is a awesome movie. Like, it's a great movie. But if you're a fan, you're like, this is nothing, like, this would never happen like this. This is terrible. I don't know. I'm going to say, I'm going to say underrated.
Starting point is 01:11:56 It's a good movie. Like, if you just pretend you don't know anything about the sport, and you're like, well, you still enjoyed it, but like you were nitpicking it in your head the whole time. Yeah, yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't give myself the chance to really enjoy the movie because I was too busy, even like that wouldn't, that wouldn't happen like that.
Starting point is 01:12:12 All right, well, that's, that's, I'm all set there. What do you got for him, Joey? All right, I got a list. Unpaid or underrated GameCube. Oh, dude, underrated. That, that, that system's had me single-handedly in a chokehold, I think, for my entire childhood. But I think I only.
Starting point is 01:12:30 played three games. I think I played Super Smash Bros. Legend of Zelda Wind Waker and Super Mario Sunshine. That I think those are the only that system single-handedly had me in a chokehold. I could
Starting point is 01:12:48 I actually just download it. I think I just said it. Oh, Wind waker. I just downloaded an emulator to a Steam deck like last week. Now when Wind Waker was definitely awesome. I can't remember any of the games I had on GameCube.
Starting point is 01:13:08 I never played that system, I don't believe. It was like, so in my day, it was Dreamcast because we used to play, it was like PS1 era, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was just after, I think, right? Yeah, because PS1 was just after like the N64 era, right? Or was it during?
Starting point is 01:13:29 I can't remember. I'm sure somebody will come. correct us. Wrong, fuckers. Yep. Wrong. Unpaid or underrated
Starting point is 01:13:41 protein powder. Oh, under, unpaid, sorry, unpaid. Here unpaid. I can't get behind it.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Well, so my problem was when I first got into, I guess fitness, if you want to call it, I was like, this is the closest thing you can get to steroids, just protein powder.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Like, just still totally uneducated, you know? So I was like, I think I had like 12 different like jugs because I'm like, well, you have to have this flavor and you've got to have this one. And you have to like, it's like, dude, it doesn't matter. You could just eat a friggin steak and you'd be probably just as good. Yeah. Yeah, I can't.
Starting point is 01:14:21 I don't know what it is. I've tried several of them. I just don't. I don't like it. I don't like any of the flavors. Ghost, I think, made the flavor I had the most. And then even then I was. like I just don't want to.
Starting point is 01:14:34 So yeah, I just have to eat, eat more protein. I'm with you on that one. Unpaid or underrated. The last one, Katie. Oh.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Oh, God. How to answer this correctly. I should specify what we're talking about because there's, there's, well, that's his job. That's true. Katie is my dog.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Katie, Katie is a long story, but I'll try to make really short. Katie was a, so I had a childhood dog, walnut childhood. I had a dog of like 14 years that was like the best like honest to God the best pet you could ever ask for like the easy like when we fed this dog we would just get a five gallon bucket and we just filled it with food and she just self-fed and never got fat.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Like the easiest most relaxed cool dog you've ever had. She passed away and my uncle that I worked for was like, hey, you know anybody looking for a dog? I'm like, yeah. I mean, my son like two, I'd love to have him grow up with a dog. So he says, long story long, my mother's can't take care of this dog anymore. It's a Belgian Malinua. It was fully trained as a service dog. It's a really great dog.
Starting point is 01:15:46 You should take this dog. I'm like, yeah, screw it. I'm in. We drive 22 hours to and from North Carolina, pick this dog up, drive home. And this dog is a menace, dude. It has a, for starters, it has a military ID. So, like, he tells me it's like a service dog.
Starting point is 01:16:04 It like opens doors and stuff. Yeah, it opens doors. Like you're in the bathroom. Like, and the dog opens the door. It's up for the whole world to see. We left her home alone. She ripped the stair treads out of my basement because she didn't want to be home alone. Ripped a doorknob off my house.
Starting point is 01:16:22 I was mowing the grass one day. She let herself out and just went for a walk through the neighborhood. This dog is a menace. Katie is unpaid. Absolutely. Absolutely uncayed. And it sounds like it's one of those, like the dog is too smart for your own good.
Starting point is 01:16:39 No, she's a genius. And she's a Belgian Malinawa. So it's like we have five foot fences in my yard. I've seen her jump a fence. Like I let her out and I'm like cutting the grass. I'm like, oh, we're all good. I got a beer flowing. You know, dogs out in the fence.
Starting point is 01:16:52 She's having a great time. And oh, there she goes. She's over the fence and down the street. All right. And there's no point. Don't go and get her. She'll come back when she's ready. And she legit just goes like, she's not mean.
Starting point is 01:17:07 She just goes and like checks out the neighborhood, comes back and lets herself in. Just doesn't shut the door behind her, lets the air conditioning out for the whole world to have. And here we are. So I'm going to hijack this briefly because I feel like people are going to think you hate your dog. So if that was the least fun thing about Katie, what's the most fun thing about Katie? Or is there a, you get to do it. Oh, wow. stumped him on that one.
Starting point is 01:17:31 That's a tough one. Honestly, that's a tough one. I mean, she's a good dog. My kid lost her. Like, my boy won't ride her around the house. Like, she's an 85 pound dollar in a lot. Like, she's cool as shit. It's a horse. Yeah, she's a monster.
Starting point is 01:17:46 But like, you come home, she's been left home. Like, you go to the store and come back. You've been gone for 10 minutes and she pees on the floor because she's so excited to see you. It's like, I know you're happy, but God damn it. Please just relax. Well, it sounds like your son's got a good relationship with her, so that's, that's good. Yeah, I'll take that. How old was she when you guys got her?
Starting point is 01:18:09 She was two. Okay, so she was still a baby, so that's good, at least two hours for a dog. That was last year. So we got, we get time for it. You got a decade with her then. Yeah. Yeah, we signed up. I'm like, God damn it, what did I sign up for here?
Starting point is 01:18:25 Next time we're getting a senior dog, damn it. Next time we're going to get Chihuahua. Oh, no, they're not much better. Yeah, no, they're vicious. I do have two things I kind of want to hit on a little bit harder. And you can kind of, so I basically just want to touch with what base on your weight loss a little bit more on how you actually did that. And then I want to hear about the crew, the New England meetups and future meetups, what you've had so far. So however you want to handle it, those.
Starting point is 01:18:52 But those are two things I'd like you to elaborate on a little bit. Yeah, definitely. The weight loss, that was. strange. And I honestly think it was just quitting drinking for like a year and a half, two years that really did it. Because I went like all in. And like to the life of me now, like if you asked me to lose five pounds, like I honestly don't think I could do it just for the sake of like my brain is just so fried. Like I was at the point where I meal prepped, I meal prepped every meal except for dinner. Dinner was always kind of winging it. But like coffee break. I would have, I can still remember it was 250 grams of cooked egg whites.
Starting point is 01:19:36 And I would just eat that for coffee break. And then lunch was like, it was like turkey, it was ground turkey, some quinoa and some broccoli. And I did that every single day for a year straight. So like if you actually like break it down at macro factor, I was taking in like 1,800 calories a day. So like I lost I was losing like 10 pounds a week like it's like not doing it right. You know. So now I'm at the point now where it's like I've I got myself down to 189 and I was like my buddy at work was like you should really do a bulk because you look like a dead body. Like it's it's time.
Starting point is 01:20:19 And I'm like okay. So I got myself up to like 240 and I'm I signed up for the 220 class and Lyft Hard Live Easy and I don't see myself getting there at this point. Every day it's like okay. We've done it. It's 242, bud. Just don't gain three pounds and you're good to go. It's like, it's like, golly. Like, you've been so good all day.
Starting point is 01:20:38 And then dinner comes and it's like, yeah, I mean, I'll totally have wings with my steak. Of course I will. Like, what are you crazy? I'm going to worry about at this point. Just when you're like, you know, once you're six to eight weeks out, you kind of know, I don't know, whenever just give Jonah an email, just let them know you're moving classes, but it's not like you're going to get docked or anything. Just, you know, if you're confident in it, you might as well just let the meat
Starting point is 01:20:59 director. I know so you can switch it around prior to, but it would be easy enough. And then, all right, so that's awesome. And then the crew meetups and, you know, because a lot of guys out, a lot of you out there. And I think I've seen you in a couple different pictures of meetups. The crew meetup was mostly, uh, it was mostly Chris. Um, excuse me, the only, uh, I think the only thing I really did to that was I just kind of mentioned, I think in the unpaid and underrated general chat. I was like, oh, man, I'd love to get together to everybody. And he kind of took the ball and ran with it, which he has, the perfect location.
Starting point is 01:21:30 Do it? His gym is sick. It's massive gym. His awesome hangout was like Man Cave is like sick. So he took the ball and ran with it. But like it was like as soon as I saw that he was in mass, I really wanted to do something.
Starting point is 01:21:43 But like I feel like I don't know anybody. So like it took me a minute to kind of get around to like kind of like just put the feel is out there and see it if he was interested in it. And it was actually, I think it was Tanner in, um, in crew falls. He gave me the ride from Tommy's house to monks. And he's like, yeah, you're up there with Chris. He's toward his gym and blah, blah, he's like, I bet if you just mention it,
Starting point is 01:22:04 I bet he'd be down for a meetup. And I was like, all right, well, got as time as any. Let's just mention it. Nice. That's awesome, man. That's awesome. Wait. I think.
Starting point is 01:22:16 Anything exhausted that you didn't get to ask him to there, Joey? No. No. Okay. No. Loving every second of it. Yep. Um, sorry.
Starting point is 01:22:29 A couple quick ones. So speaking of Big Chris, we know his name now. So as a listener and friends with Chris, did you get a chuckle out of no one remembering his name for three weeks straight? Yeah, I was laughing about that. I was in my work truck on my way to the shop. I think of what is the podcast release at like five? It was like 5.20. And I'm like, Chris, his name is Chris.
Starting point is 01:22:52 It's Chris. So he wants to know how many sheet. cakes you're bringing to the to crew england spring uh he's screwed i'll tell you that much because there is no limit if if he puts it out there that he will eat a sheetcake brother i'll bring six or seven i'll bring ten if that's what it takes like now we're talking costco sheet cakes probably too right oh well no absolutely this is this is costco or i will go to gerardo's which is a bakery near us and I will get the most richest, sweetest she cake he could ever handle. I'll load this man up.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Waffle iron wants to know how it feels to be the Steve of the best grip. Did you guys, did you beat him into grip contest there at that meetup then? Yeah, we had a horse stall mat gripper contest. And I don't think I beat him by much, dude. I think I maybe got him by like a pound. I don't think even that much. But it was one of those first like, I'm like, I have to. to have something. I'm just not going to let it go. Nice. Love it. All right. Literally not let it go.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Badoosh. All right. Well, do you have anything for us, brother? Yeah. I actually do have a couple questions if you guys got time. Yeah. We're 90 minutes, it looks like, so I got a bit. Tons of time. All right. So my first question is, what is a lifting hack that you guys have tried and has it ended horribly wrong. Something that you absolutely were just like, this was horrible. For example, the front squat with the straps, the first time I tried it, I did one, went great, second one, I dropped it and caught it, Zerter
Starting point is 01:24:31 style, and I thought I was going to die. That's actually a good call on that one, because I tried that too, and I was like, this is even harder than just choking myself. Like, I'd rather choke myself and suffer than do this again. Ah, geez. I'm trying to think of, like,
Starting point is 01:24:47 bad experience. Yeah, that is hard for me. just fall down a lot, man. Like, I've fallen so many times at East Ave in the last couple, the last six months or a year, even. It's just, I'm trying to think of like, if it's all, like, if it was anything stemming from, I'm going to try this now. Oh, you'll fucking laugh at this. So my lifting hack was, oh, I'm going to lift the block. Like, so like the loadable strongman block implement.
Starting point is 01:25:12 And, like, some of the guys were doing it for an upcoming thing. And I was like, oh, I will just do it. It looks awesome. And it's the alternative is I have to lift a keg, which is a. pain in the ass and it's like, this looks fun. Yeah, you completely ate shit and dropped it fucking right on the stalemack. Didn't even hit the pad and fucking my dumb ass tried to like catch it and almost like my fucking arm out of the socket. And then the coach, dude, like, don't ever try to catch an implement.
Starting point is 01:25:38 We care about you, not the fucking implement. Just don't be a dumb ass. And I was like, and also you're never allowed to use this again. And I was just like, okay. Sorry, bud. It was so bad. You got banned. D.
Starting point is 01:25:49 I think it was more like. for that day because it was like there was there was a group of us in like you were either doing keg lift or the the shield or the other block that is and then he was like yeah you're on the kegs today i was like okay good good good call but no i think i have one i trained by myself right so it's never been like a you're you're right about the damn straps with the the front squats to the point i just i don't do front squats it's why i bought an sb because i was like i'm not going to do front squats I don't really have one that went wrong. I know,
Starting point is 01:26:30 I know like the Dodd's version of when you're doing an implement, how he likes to throw them up and catch them. I also love doing that. There is a point where it's so heavy you shouldn't because you exhaust yourself getting it into position, but I'm never going to. stop doing it because Dodds does it and I love that guy right so it's like one of those like like I'll pick up my my one sandbag it's it's around 150 and I got to get it up into my chest and I will just
Starting point is 01:27:05 toss it and then be like I'm too tired to carry this now that I threw it but like again I'm not going to stop I'm not going to like crouch down and and be gentle about it I'm going to do it the way Dodds does it because Dodds is incredible and Dodds are strong. So that might be one. That might be the best, closest thing I have. Hell yeah, right on.
Starting point is 01:27:27 All right. So one that I did kind of come to mind. It's, I guess, not even not necessarily a hack, but like speaking of front squats, like I was getting good at front squats and was actually able to front rack for a bit.
Starting point is 01:27:38 And then like my dumb ass, well, like, I don't know. I just, it was like a fucking like four sets of eight or something. And for like the next three months, I had fucking horrible tendonitis. and I'm never going to front rack a squat again.
Starting point is 01:27:50 So fuck that noise. If it was like a couple of singles and doubles here and there, I'd still be fine. But like my pressing is too important to me, like the enjoyment I get from pressing to fuck up to doing a front squat when I can do an SSB or a zircher or some other variation. My tendonitis right now is so bad that picking up my coffee in the morning hurts. So I actually, yeah, I haven't been in the gym in like two weeks because I need to go to physio and get the shit sorted. tendinitis is nothing to joke about unless you're joking about it in that case laugh all you want but still
Starting point is 01:28:24 like it's it's this is bad like this is the worst it's been my right hand um I did a quick turn with something in my hand and my whole arm went numb and so did my lips and then I was like yeah we might need to go to physio
Starting point is 01:28:39 like we might need to go get this shit looked at so I actually to be honest with you haven't been in the gym in two weeks because I'm so afraid of hurting them even more. Brother, that might not be 10.9th. That might be a stroke. Probably not. I've had 10 minutes since I was like 20.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Oh, all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a recurring injury. It just hasn't been as bad as it is right now in a long time. All right. So my next question would be, well, I guess to lead up to you guys. Do you want a fun one or do you want a semi-serious goose one? Go both.
Starting point is 01:29:14 All right. All right, let's go the fun one first. Zombie attack, which gym equipment are using as a weapon? Do we have to own it or just in general? In general, it doesn't matter. So it's like the logic is, like, it's got to be something you can wheel it. It's not hard. It's a mace.
Starting point is 01:29:32 You're going to use a mace. Or you're going to use one of those battling bats that the Iron Sheik used to use. It's got to be handheld. It's got to be quiet. And it's got to be able to keep distance. So, Joe, So Joey's going for the shoulder rock. Yeah, so pretty much.
Starting point is 01:29:48 So I used to be, I was actually the first president of the Zombie Research Society in Ontario, second in Canada. So I've got a lot of fucking looking into this kind of business. Yes, you want all of those things. You do not want something that is too heavy that you can't carry it. It has to have other uses. If you want to talk about the best thing in general for a zombie, zombies. That's not gym related.
Starting point is 01:30:18 I can get into that too if you want. But yeah, it's probably the shoulder rock because you can keep crowds away. You can swing and hit heads. And it has other uses like opening doors and things like that. So I think I have you beat. So I went over to Jim Radar. Oh, you prick. I remember seeing Brandon posted this a while ago.
Starting point is 01:30:42 So fringe actually makes a source. sword mace basically. So it is a sword. It just would need to be sharpened. Is it sharp? It will be. Yeah, those things get lodged in heads and are hard to remove.
Starting point is 01:30:55 You want blunt objects in a zombie apocalypse. Blunt objects. I would go with some type of sled, like a, I don't know, like, well, in honor of the Los Campiano's
Starting point is 01:31:06 most horrible strong man event in the world, I'll go with an eight pound sledgehammer. And you're going to hold it out in front of you for a bit? I get... Haunt them first. That must have been so fun to watch. That, like, honestly, like, as a... Well, if I didn't see it, because it's so fucking dark.
Starting point is 01:31:24 As, like, a crowd goer, that's what I want to watch. Just somebody's standing there shaking, holding an eight-outs. Anything over 90... Like, if you didn't test that, to be like, all right, like, anyone can do this for more than 90 seconds. Like, and then the fact that it was the same fucking hammer for, like, the 100-pound girl and the 400-pound dude is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen in my... when I was like, and like,
Starting point is 01:31:47 he's not being welcome back to those can't be honest last year. Oh, yeah. And then to like not have a fucking tiebreaker for a podium spot. And she was like, oh, I don't know, we just tied. And I'm like, that's not how strong man works.
Starting point is 01:31:59 You literally do a tiebreaker. You just have to have this like extra event that's super easy. It's it. I mean, I literally we did it at fucking Liftard Livesey, the stall mat thing. It doesn't have to be that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:10 I've seen it happen at half of the shows I've gone to. There has to be a tiebreaker. forgot all about that. If you're in last place, you just thought a hybrid. I've never even competed. And I was like, a hammer hold?
Starting point is 01:32:21 Like, even my hammer's 35 pounds. It's not eight pounds. I just imagine Keith walking up to those camp, he only is that crew falls is here. And Casey's like, nah, dude.
Starting point is 01:32:34 No, don't know. You don't want to come in here. You don't like my lights. Yep. Nope. You talk too much shit. You're not welcome.
Starting point is 01:32:42 I'm talking about. It's just, I'm, positively motivating him. Positive reinforcement to have a safer gym for his clients. All right. So my next question would be, what's your favorite Facebook marketplace deal you've ever scored of all time?
Starting point is 01:33:00 Like the best one you've ever done, even if you don't own the piece anymore. What's like, you're like, I crushed it on this one. I don't have Facebook, so I can't answer this. Damn it.
Starting point is 01:33:09 Any resale, but I'll go with the 20 kilogram it was actually this was Craigslist but I'm not there whatever close enough sure I'm fucking old so like most of my like as I'm trying to scour like my marketplace to see shit that I've sold to use for pictures and ratings of my gym radar I'm like fuck dude I have like five years of only Craigslist and there's like no history of that anymore
Starting point is 01:33:32 so it's like sure okay yeah let's just go with that yeah no no but I was uh what was my oh 20 kilogram York deep dish plates that I kept for like a month and turned around and sold them for three grand and another pair of regular unmarked pound deep dish plates. And that money went back into my gym and bought like thousands of pounds of plates and like four barbells or something crazy. Like it and a squat rack. Like it, that money was all very much well spent. And like that would have been in like 2019 or 2018 and covered like a large expansion in the no one seller.
Starting point is 01:34:05 That's sick. That's actually a good deal. But back in, but hindsight of what I still wanted to have the plates maybe, but I need it. At that time, I really needed them. The money was, it outweighed my desire to just have extra random cool shit. Sure. There was a trade group here in my city, and you weren't allowed to actually exchange for cash. You had to trade things.
Starting point is 01:34:30 So we got a $25 gift card, and I got my rocking chair. And it is an antique rocking chair. It is very old, very pretty, very ornate. And I still have it. It's been years out in the rain. It got covered in stuff. But once it was cleaned and ready to go, it's still my rocking chair. It's my old man rocking chair.
Starting point is 01:34:55 So it's outside? It's not anymore. It's in the living room. It's currently storage for my kids because they have... Someday. Yeah, they have... No, it's in the living room covered in junk. Oh, okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Yeah, when you don't want junk on the floor, you put it on. on daddy's rocking chair because he only uses it twice a week, right? Yeah. So that, yeah, I would say that maybe that's my best one. But otherwise, no, I, all of my gym stuff is either new or traded. I don't have Facebook, so I've never really been able to. I'm on Kijiji, which we talked about with Cam. Yeah, we just talking about that recently.
Starting point is 01:35:32 Yeah, I'm still looking for stuff on there, but like, people have no fucking clue. Wouldn't you, I mean, you're getting a, you're getting a stalemate ripper off, off Kijiji? No, off cam. You could have said that's still qualified. You know what's funny is the night he talked about it, I went on and those plates he was talking about, the Whipper Wilson, I found them.
Starting point is 01:35:56 And the guy had no clue what he had. He was like, yeah, a dollar a pound. And I sent him to Cam and I was like, yo. And he's like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:36:02 you're already finding stuff. And then a day later they were gone. So I wonder if Cam actually went and got them. Yeah, the deals. You got to act fast. That's the, you can't do.
Starting point is 01:36:10 I know, I don't need more plates. right. I wasn't that focused on them. Somebody else was selling, but like I go on there and the plates I have, like, so if you go to my gym radar, you will see that I have a lot of Northern Fitness or Northern Lights Fitness. Northern Lights Fitness is a Chinese reseller, right? So they manufacture in China, bring to Canada, sell as Canadian owned, not made. I have a lot of those. I buy those when I want them for a dollar to a dollar
Starting point is 01:36:43 25 a pound. Okay? Because I happen to know one of the stores it sells them. I will go on there and they'll be like, we want $500 for like 200 pounds worth of stuff. And I'm like, are you fucking wild? Like,
Starting point is 01:37:00 I know where you got this. It is so weird what people think they can get away with. Yeah. That's, that's, you're glad you're not on Facebook anymore too. Because like every time there's a deal and like Walmart will like a lot of people took advantage of these like you know you can get plates off walmart.com delivered your house for 50 to 60 cents a pound like it's not consistent the in it you know it's kind of like a flash deal or whatever but it happens often enough
Starting point is 01:37:24 that a lot of people will be able to you know could buy thousands of pounds worth of plates and turn around and then try to sell them for fucking a dollar 50 a pounds so there's just constantly people on marketplace right now selling the plates that I saw that I know they paid 50 or 60 cents for for a dollar dollar 25 and I'm just like I I I now that you can react on Facebook to people's marketplace listings, I laugh at all of them just to be a dick. I want to, though. I've thought about messaging these people and being like, you understand that like I can go buy these brand new for a quarter of the price you're selling them at, right?
Starting point is 01:37:55 Like, you understand that. Yeah. But no, they don't. People are trying to hustle the system. And like, I did it for a while. But I never bought new to turn around and buy or so I've never bought something new and turn around and sold it for a profit. I don't, I said, I can't recall that.
Starting point is 01:38:09 But I've definitely bought. turn around sort of for a profit, but to me that's different. It's also a hustle and it's, I don't know. I just want stuff. I want a log and I want a log at not a brand new price. And that's the only reason I keep checking Kijiji. As Tommy once said, if you buy something brand new, as soon as you open it, it's used. You don't get to sell it for new price.
Starting point is 01:38:38 All right. So my last question, and this is probably the strangest one, will be, pick your, pick your worst enemy in your head. Don't have to say, don't love. You're going to have, you're breaking into their house. And you've got to steal something, but it has to be mildly inconvenient and not expensive. What are you taken? Toilet paper.
Starting point is 01:39:01 Toilet paper. Every single roll of toilet paper. I will search the whole house and find every square, every roll. every role and I will take it with me. I like how fast you answer that. You already thought about this. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:39:16 That's the most inconvenient. Well, because like, my wife is better at it than I am, but it's these like weird little threats that like I don't want you to get hurt or anything, but I want you inconvenienced. And one of those is like,
Starting point is 01:39:29 I hope you never find Tiled a paper again. Right? I hope somebody puts dog poop on your door handles for the rest of your life. Like just little things like that. that are so inconvenient and mean, but, like, they don't hurt anybody. It just sucks for that one person.
Starting point is 01:39:46 I hope what does she say? I hope every time you litter, somebody throws it back in your car. Like, just things like that. So, yeah, toilet paper is the main one. You break into somebody's house, you steal all of the toilet paper, and they are screwed.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Yeah, power move. Yeah. Certain dominance. Better not have a bidet because now you're using your hand or your wash cloths, losers. Take a shower every time Yeah, that too.
Starting point is 01:40:12 That's a good one. What were the parameters again? Because I have a couple different things in my head. Mildly inconvenient and not expensive. Because I would say taking someone's keys would be great, but that's expensive because then you're spending lots of money theoretically to get new. They can't get to work.
Starting point is 01:40:30 They can't. That would be. I guess I'd go, I had it in my head a second ago. I mean, do phone chargers. Every phone charger in your house. Yes.
Starting point is 01:40:42 I was between body wash and phone chargers. I read your mind on that one then. Yeah. Yeah. Every phone charger in your house is might now. A phone charger would be really in the one. See, I'm surprised, Keith.
Starting point is 01:40:52 I would have thought you would have been more petty and went for like the batteries out of the TV remote. Ah, what a wonderful day. I can sit down and relax. Why isn't this working? Not even the batteries, the whole remote. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:41:05 just take the remote. Like me five years ago, I might have thought of that, but like I have the, uh, both my TVs in the house are Roku and if I, I don't find my remote often and I just pull up my Roku app and click. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:18 Actually same. So like I, I could throw away my remotes and be fine. It was just like the 30 second inconvenience of getting that the app to pair to the right one because half the, the worst is when it's, uh, I'm trying to watch it in my bedroom and it pairs the one in the living room and it turns
Starting point is 01:41:32 a TV on at fucking like 11 o'clock at night. And then I got to go. physically walk out there and turn it off so it doesn't fucking wake the rest of the house up so that's annoying. I don't know if you just heard. I heard Joey, it sounds like take Keith's remote because that sounds very inconvenient for Keith. Or his Wi-Fi. Because Roku won't work without Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 01:41:51 You can't use that on 5G, buddy. He just unplug his router every time. Yeah. Well, just like stealing the, you're the power, like the 24-volt power adapter to the router. Like good luck for replacing that quickly, like without, like, like, of the, Or putting my own version of a Wi-Fi adapter into it so that you don't know and I can just turn it off remotely all the time. That would also be awful. If it was my wife, if I was trying to, like, if I had to do with my wife, like, pedally like that, it would probably be just take the coffee.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Like, it had to be the coffee pot. Like, if she woke up and didn't have coffee, like, oh, God, that would be so bad. But I feel like a lot of people that, like, don't get coffee on the way to work and actually drink it at the house. Like, that would be, like, it doesn't affect me. but it would definitely affect her. It's the first thing she does is like stumble to the kitchen and turn the coffee pot on. That's the same thing I do, but tomorrow I'm like, no, I'm having a ghost first thing in the morning. I've learned that Fridays are hard.
Starting point is 01:42:46 That's like a, you probably look forward to that. If that's like a thing you always do, then like treat yourself to that extra. Yeah. I almost got a drink and I urge to drink today. I was, it was dragging, but I'll probably drink like seven this weekend at the Arnold. Ah, good stuff. Well, that was a fun episode. that was
Starting point is 01:43:05 that was the last one right awesome well big Steve we're gonna find you at boss you find me on Instagram at Bam Bam underscore 168 my social security is 078
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Starting point is 01:43:27 you have to find out damn it You can find me at Joey underscore Molesco, M-L-E-C-Z-K-O on Instagram, or the DILF Dungeon on Jim Radar. Indeed. And I have some new DILF Dungeon stickers that came in, and they were appropriately sized and fit on the thing. I think they're a bit too small, but they are probably like, they could be, it's hard because it's like, do I go the two by two, the two by three? Like, yours could have been like 20% bigger, but like in comparison to. your other one that it was like an eight inch
Starting point is 01:44:01 by the same thing. Yeah, it was fucking gigantic. It was a bumper sticker. Like, you over, you compensated, but like by 15% too much, but it works that good. I haven't explained this yet. On this one, we got like a deal where it was like 50 cents a sticker. Oh, nice. And I turned to Morgan and I was like, you're in charge. Like, you are the one that designed
Starting point is 01:44:19 this logo. You are the one in charge. Here's my card. Go buy me stickers. And then she's like, oh, here's a good deal. And she just put it in. And then they showed up. And I was like, are these stickers for? like who the fuck's going to use these? But they were better quality than the previous ones. Because the previous ones were labels.
Starting point is 01:44:39 So if you'll notice the envelope I sent you, I had one on the back to close the label. So all the people listening, if I've sent you a sticker, on the back of that envelope is the Delfth Dungeon sticker. But it's because it's just envelope quality, it's their shit, they tear. Because I was like, why is he using like,
Starting point is 01:44:57 I would not waste a dollar sticker to close an envelope. And now you know why. It's because those are paper quality, whereas the ones inside the envelope are good vinyl quality. Makes sense to me. I dig it. All right. We have an Instagram. Unpaid and underrated podcast. We've got a website
Starting point is 01:45:14 Unpaid Interimpodcast.com. There is the Discord channel on Massanomics Discord. Unpaid and under unpaid underrated podcast. Go check us out there. I am Keith Honeycutt 73 on Instagram. More importantly, go follow my orange gym, the no wine seller. Until then, see you next Tuesday.
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