Unpaid And Underrated - 150 : Pre-Warm-Out (ft. Big Joe)

Episode Date: March 24, 2026

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Joe. They dive right into great topics like being a girl dad, strongman, playing bass, Tarantino, and influencers. Links Ü&Ü Hoodie Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab Get Your Own Keith Head Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast Our Guest On Instagram @j_l799 Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar @joey_mleczko Special Guest: Big Joe.

Welcome to Unpaid and Underrated. Episode 458 of the Unpaid and Underrated podcast for crew by crew, by crew for attended by at least one crew tonight and relentlessly mocked by crew. I am one of your hosts, Big Joey, joined as always by Big Keith. Howdy howdy. If I'm not here, he's here. If he's not here, I'm here. If we're not both here, you ain't listening to Unpaid and Underrated.

That's not true. Oh, no, good point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The only times we get a week off is when the crew pull forward and give us their ranking episodes or whatever. Yeah, I was doing my radio host thing there. And then, yeah, you're damn right. Those are the best episodes because we get a week off. Yeah, because it's easy enough for one of us to kind of hold the fort down for each other periodically.

But, like, the tanned a week off and just not having to worry about it at all. Because even if I wasn't recording, it's still, like, when I keep tabs on the notes, and stuff and the background, but like, it's so nice to just be like, I don't have to do anything for like 13 days. Just fuck off. Leave me alone. It's the best. Yeah.

I take that back. You are very correct. And we are joined by Big Lisa from the Discord, Big Joe Lisa. What up? Happy to be here. Hey, guys. Hey, welcome, friend. Let's kickstart this.

Anybody drinking anything cooler? Can we skip that? Nothing fancy. Oh, I hear a crispy crack. Yeah, we got a yingling in this front seat of my truck here. Nice. Nice. He's still on private property.

So everybody relax. So he's not drinking. Calm your tits. Yep. Calm your titties. I have a Mick Ultra in the RPE 10, um, silly hawk, um, thing. Um, recently switched to Mick Ultra because A, light beer and B, my wife drinks them. It's pretty good.

So, yeah, I can actually buy less beer because she drinks those now. I don't have to go and buy her. My one. Nice. So, so. So that's, yeah, it's kind of convenient. I still need to try the zero version of that just to have like. Yeah, oh, absolutely.

I, uh, not that, I mean, I don't, I don't really crave a, I don't know, though. If I'm craving a beer, I like that feel good feeling. So I don't know. It might be good, like on a, like, because it's, when I'm mowing, it's nice to have a beer, but sometimes I don't really want to have a beer at three o'clock in the afternoon. If I get home early or something. I don't want to be buzzed by five. Like I just like a beer for the sake of having a beer, but damn, I don't want to keep going.

I will ask Big Clayton for his review because I heard he's, uh, He's pounded those NAs. I was like, what? I was like, is that, is that a 12-year walking around with a beer? I was so confused. It took me, and we actually had some talk about that too, because like, even NAs. They're still 0.5 at least. Yeah, we're pretty sure.

Like, it's still illegal for him to drink that, but it's okay. Yeah. One of my Muslim friends, they were like, they wanted to try Guinness. And I was like, yeah, go try a non-alcoholic Guinness. And apparently his mom was like, you cannot do that again. Like, you are not allowed because they still contained, like, the smallest liver of No problem. Yep.

Anybody wearing anything cool? I'm going to go last, if you don't mind. Yeah, I've got the, one of the Mastonomics meat shirts. They did have my size, you know, a couple weeks after the show, so I didn't have to send Tanner an email and be all, you know, tundry about that.

You know, oh, did you order enough? But now I'm rocking the, the Jason, Lift Hard-Livisi, too. Lift-Hard-Livisi return, whatever the hell it is. It was a good one.

I made me think of that when just that guy's snarky email and I just chuckled. I was like, well, I got to wear this shirt tonight. What about you, Joe?

What are you wearing? I had to represent. So I got the you and you. Yeah, buddy. Sleeves cut off and everything. Oh, yeah.

With a flannel over. That's the... That's the look. It is. I'm watching the home gym nerd shirt in celebration of me hitting home gym nerd status today on gym radar.

That a boy. It took some work, as in work, some time away from the family and work and work and friends and life. But I went through and just essentially did it. Also would like to celebrate a friend of mine, Big Cam,

who stopped by my house today, him and his dog, and dropped off this. Oh, nice. Get yourself a little thing. You gotta get you on the leaderboard. Well, he's got the, I'll break the news. Stalmat, horse stall mat gripper. Yep.

I tried to order one on the last drop. and that was like $112. Yeah, it was like 112 Canadian, and that doesn't even count what they're going to charge me to cross the border. And I was just like, I can't justify that.

That's more expensive than a barbell I could get. It's like equivalent of a stalemat at that point. Yeah. Or three. What is the, what is the stall mat gripper in America? In like US currency, it's like 40 bucks or 48 bucks or something?

It was 43 American. Okay, so that's 35 shipping. That's a stall mat. Which was a hundred and two Canadian. Canadian. It's the literal price of it. I never really thought about like, yeah.

I mean, I get it because there's a lot of labor that goes into it. And like that's what you're buying is the, you know, all the cutting and everything. But like it is literally a tractor supply, stalemack, you know,

price. Yeah. So I had to back out of buying that one. I'm sorry everybody. I'm sorry to Tanner. It just was like on an unreasonable purchase. I bought my bike. I just bought a Viking press,

land mine attachment. And it was $50 cheaper. they're cool though there's a price not a cam cam is known to do the gary just give people shit so do he actually give it to you or do you charge you like 30 bucks or something no there was an exchange but i essentially paid what he paid that's fair yeah um he he said along the lines um he doesn't like using it in the winter because he can't use it in the house because it fills the house with chalk so he doesn't like a project that he can only use

a couple months of the year so I was like well I'll take it because I don't did you initiate the charge back to Massonomics? That would be awesome double dipping yeah

speaking of double-ish it's kind of a bad segueway but like so I'm not saying this because you have experience in this and I'm asking for your advice I'm just venting because I'm pissed off about it so like my iPhone screen has been fucked up all week

and I've done everything I could to get it to not be fucked up. Like the bottom eighth to fifth, it's just got this like block basically. So I can't like, so it's just like right below the search bar. There's just like this dead space. It's not, it's not really black.

I don't know. It is essentially just a black, you know, box underneath the search bar. So then it just, it stole like my bottom line or two of apps. So everything is just fucking a couple pages over. So then like when my brain instinctively knows that,

you know, Instagram's on the second page and Jim Rade. are on the bottom of the second page and but now it's on the third page. It's just trying to find my apps. I've caught myself having to search apps for the past week, just all pissed off. And I've done all kinds of restarts and, you know, adjusted this setting, adjusted this setting. I'm up to date, so I have to just, I'm just finger across it. It's not your update.

It sounds like your digitizer's damaged. Oh, that's great. Your digitizer is, so a cool thing. I might be breaking rules here. the way that your screen lays is your screen comes down your screen and then it curls up into the back of your phone into what's called the digitizer. The digitizer is what makes your screen a screen. And if that is damaged, it's not fixable. But so it's only the home screen.

It's only like as soon as I get into an app or get into any other thing, I have my full, like I'm on Facebook and I have the full like top to bottom entire screen. It's just the home. So then that's not your digitizer. that's a different problem. Yes, I'm just going to fingers crossed, wait for an update, and hopefully it works out. If not, I'm just, I've gone down a couple different rabbit holes at Jim and I chat, GPT, and Google. And I'm just like, that didn't work, asshole. So, but so I wasn't, I wasn't fishing for advice.

I was just looking to vent because it's been super fucking annoying. Like, obviously, we have our phones in her hands too much already. Yeah. And now I feel like I, I feel like I'm having to have my phone on my hand longer now because I feel like I'm, I feel like I'm fucking, you know, I'm already old. Now I feel older because I'm like, where the fuck did that? Like, where did my app go? I'm literally like, is this. Is this?

Is this still your best buy phone or is this your Apple phone? Oh, no, no. This is a, well, but it's my Apple phone, but my fucking thing, my, my care lapsed. And because I had my two, four years with it and then they get lapsed. I never re-upped it. Oh, this. Which, which model is? I don't know.

Whatever was brand new and 20, whatever was brand new at Lift Hard Lib Easy One. Oh, geez. Time to get a 16. Don't get a 17. You don't need it. Yeah. It is what it is. Like I said, I'll, I'll deal with all the technical shit on the back.

I just more wanted to vent about that because it's fucking annoying. Like the slightest little change of that, it's just like, oh, there, where'd all my apps go? It would piss me off even more that some things work and some don't because I would blame myself.

Like, that is exactly my first response. Like, what am I doing wrong? How did I not do this? Yeah, it's, it's been frustrating. But I didn't want to make you to work for it. As you say, I just... Oh, I don't work there anymore. Well, in general.

It was more than, um... I left doors. You want some advice on doors? Let's do the YouTube. video because there was some there was a good bit of that i don't know if anyone did you either get a chance to watch it it was a big long one today uh with gunner um all right so i got a chance to watch it my thoughts on it were i had two things that kind of stuck out to me it was kind of right off the bat because in a couple different tours he's got a fucking million pieces of equipment anyone

not familiar gunner peterson uh big la um used to use to be a los angeles trainer to the athletes and the stars essentially out there and uh transplanted to tennessee a few years ago so still doing the same thing but i'm assuming just less high profile people, just more mom and pop dudes. I don't know, but nonetheless, he's a pretty famous guy. I've seen his gym a bunch, but it's always something different because he's, you know, always getting something in, taking something out. So now that I think about that, there's three pretty things I'll touch on.

So the gym name that really stuck out to me. It was what's called Common Ground. And he said it was basically just like the LLC name. I don't think he really refers to it as much as that. But he's like, the gym is common ground for people to come and just like leave all the bullshit at the door. Like this is common ground. We're all here to work out.

And then, you know, just put in the work, et cetera. And then he, so it's more of a, it's more of a personal training studio than it is a, like, you don't necessarily buy a membership and going and train. It's all like one-on-one trainer stuff. And then he says he wants people to like put in the work to be his trainer. So that kind of took out to me because that's like my catchphrase here. And then the third thing, I think he closed with was something to the extent of, uh, you can kind of re, re, uh, he, I don't think he said rephrase, but it put, you can be obsessed about something. But if you put that in a slightly different perspective, you can just say you're dedicated. You can be a hoarder,

but he put a slightly different, you know, perspective, you're a collector. So then Tanner kind of was like, yeah, he literally like looked at the camera and was talking to Mary in the sense of like, you know, his obsession with all the gym equipment too. So I just thought that was funny in a little full circle moment. But good video. It is a long one. I, you know, I did consume it all. I had to choose between that and finishing up a book that I was trying to power through today. And I did, I did choose the crew and the podcast to have something to chat about.

But good video. Give that a whirl if you haven't. I think I have an argument against that is hoarders are actual hoarders. Well, yeah, like, it's, I get, I use order loosely. Horty is, yes. So you're cleaning dead cats out of a garage because every time a cat dies, they throw it in the garage and let it rot like that. But if my wife called me a hoarder because I have,

he was dedicated to dead cats. Like, I don't know what to say about that. Yeah, but it'll be like me and takes you too literal and turn it dark. Yeah, I know, I know. But correct. tort I have hoarders of my family. It's a fucking horrible disease and people. Yeah.

Sad and depressing and embarrassing. But isn't he the guy that also said it's not wrong. It's different. Yes. And they talked about that too. There. You can see that one is one I've adapted into real life since Tanner said it the first time. And I was like, nope, love it.

That's not right. It's not wrong. Which is different. And I would also argue that that's only accurate in so many accounts. Like there are, I see shit. And I go, that is wrong sometimes. But if it's basically the same. and it is just different, then yes, it's different.

You like a different energy drink than me. It's not wrong. It's different. It's wrong. That's fine. Because that's how I feel about it. If you drive down a fucking one-way road, the opposite direction, that is wrong. Oh, yeah.

There's limits to everything with that phrase. Yeah. Actually, funny thing is I was listening to this week's episode, and weird moment of vulnerability for me, you talked about how if something. Yeah. Yeah, if something had happened, the episode, that's fair. This would be a solo podcast.

And I started thinking about what I would do. And, yeah, that would suck. I don't think there would be an episode. I think there would just be a five-minute talk about Keith and all the great things he's done for us and how much we love him. And that was such a fucking terrible spiral. So trying not to talk about that again,

if you don't mind. that was like 10 minutes of my life where I had to deal with what would I do? And I had like a eulogy planned for you in my head and how I would have to deal with that. Well, try trying to process that and then getting a flat tire and then being stopped. So like that was just the weekend from hell to capped off with like good crew vibes. But it was just part of my weekend and I had to share the story. And this is the, you know, this is the you and you podcast. So we have a game like we like to play.

Yeah. We like to relive trauma here. Yeah. It was it was therapeutic for me to talk about it, so I won't apologize. It was it was benefit. No, no, please don't. But it was just, I'm just like, Jesus. Like, I care too much about this type of thing. I'm going to go into Morgan's project for a brief second. There are four people here. We've got Joe, you've been pretty quiet. So I do want you to make sure you see this. Matt, you're here. So this is a preview. So Morgan, for whatever reason, hyperfixated on doing some artwork. for unpaid and underrated. And I'm going to show it on camera very briefly. She did this one. Can you guys see that? Not really.

Is it blurry or is it? There it is. There it is. Oh, not a laptop. This is true. She did this one. I like that one. You'll see the four crew,

buy crew in the leaves on that one. Oh, yeah. I wasn't sure if you wanted descriptions for the listeners. No, please, if you don't. I don't know when your rollout is. that looks like a drag so there's three or four was a four of them total three total she is encompassing

our you and you lettering and some of the catchphrases some of the wording some of the you know us and putting it in like very artistic drawings creations of her own her and spin on it yeah so I don't know what her intention with these are I think she might want to do a

is there on a cardstock I couldn't really tell this is cardstock yes she She meticulously did these. These took her hours and hours and hours. So I don't know what she wants to do with them. She might do a couple stickers of them. She might send them to the guys. Maybe you get them at the Leptard-Live-Easy as part of something.

I don't know. But she was very excited to contribute to the podcast. I just wanted to make sure she got recognized for that. And hopefully you guys... I'll tell her thanks from all of us. Hopefully you guys get to see them because it's their. one of a kind. They're very different. They're not something we would normally do, but I can tell you, me and Nate were loving them as I was sending the previews. Um, Keith was a big fan as well,

especially of this. Yeah, I was going to be like, I mean, I'm not dead yet. I know you thought, I know you played out of, you just didn't, you weren't like, well, Keith, Keith was like, put it on a tattoo on my back. Like, Keith was a fucking am. Or Nate, Nate, Nate, yeah. Uh, yeah. Nate is, Nate can go zero to a hundred. I, like to keep that even keel. I've also been like if I looking and responding, I've been bad at responding to stuff the past week or so. Life has just been

Yeah, it's because your phone's fucked. Well, that's, that is true. I have, I, I've, that's fair. I might have, honestly, because, yeah, it's like, if I have to go looking for my messages, I'm just not going to. Yep. So, yeah, very appreciative of Morgan in what she did there.

We'll keep you guys posted on what ends up becoming of that, some kind of prize, some kind of, we're not sure yet, but that was very cool that she took the time to do that and all that stuff. So had I mentioned earlier, I chose the Gunner Peterson book over finishing up a book series. So to tie this into sports and books with, I think Tanner talked about it on the garage gym experiment podcast with Mike and them, because Mike's a big reader of the dungeon crawler Carl books. And I've heard about them.

I've been hearing about them for Jesus for a fucking year now, probably. And I was just like looking at the cover of it or, you know, the quick little blurb on good reads. I don't know if that's up my alley. It's like, I'm not a big gamer. I don't like RPG games necessarily. I didn't know if it was supposed to be like a graphic novel or like a kids thing or a comic books. I was very much confused and didn't really get any clarity from anyone.

But I finally did pull the trigger. I downloaded the first one and I was like, you know, I think it was like 10 or 12 hour audiobook and I pretty much listened through it the last couple days. And it's been enjoyable. It is very different. It's not something I would normally necessarily be my wheelhouse. I guess it is. it's fantasy, actiony, comedy-e,

Volger, it's all that wrapped into one, but it's all, like, essentially in a video game, kind of sort of adjacent to a video game. But, yeah, I think I'm going to go down the rabbit hole and read all those. I think there's six out currently with the seventh coming. Don't quote me on that, but something along those lines.

And I don't know if I'm going to do them all back to back because I've, you know, I'd like to sprinkle on other standalone books here and there. But, yeah, I think that's, I will finish that tonight after the podcast, probably. Oh, no, I can't because the freaking sisters are recording. so maybe I'll finish that tomorrow morning on my pre-walk, pre-warmout, pre-workout, warm-up walk.

That is a mouthful. All right, and that's my sports and books. And we are to the drop. The drop this week, for anyone looking, was a pair of sweatpants and a different color with only paying of tax once. And two new shirts, the blue one on the athletic fit that was the raw power. power, the ram or the buffalo. I was so amped when I saw the raw power thing and then saw that it wasn't on comfort colors. It was like, yeah, well, bummed out.

And then the orange one, the new one, I don't remember, I can't remember the terminology. It's the iconic tea. Yeah, which is that a, has that been around before? I don't remember. I think so. Yeah, I think it's, I might have one somewhere. I'm not going to go looking for it, but. Was there a red one or just a black?

I don't, I don't remember seeing it, but I'm sure it was around, but. Well, it's iconic. Yeah, apparently. I was on the fence on that one, but then I was, because someone mentioned it being orange and I was like, I don't, I like, I went in the description. I was like, oh, it does say burnt orange, but I had a quick glance my old eyes are like,

oh, that's like a brown adjacent. I'm like, oh, no, that is a burnt orange. So I picked it up for the orange act factor and we'll give it a go. I don't know if I'm going to be silly enough to get the silly goose pin because I think first, first 50 got the silly goose pin. So we'll see if I get one of those. And that was the drop. Last week's

Mathonomics episode, Joe, it was there, Arnold recap. Did you listen to it? I did. I listened to it yesterday and then I listened to yours today as I'm getting the two of them a little bit confused.

Oh, nice. Well, I mean, whichever one you liked, wherever you laughed more, whichever one you smiled more, whichever one made,

you know, was more crew-centric. That was ours. So you can talk about there's a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, there was just great. I went to the Arnold,

uh, right after COVID. and that was PC pre-crew and uh it had to be kind of rev 23 i think probably yeah yep it had be reminiscing on uh all the experiences the uh i was there were or not i was i was did we meet oh no i was not there that was the first yeah i was there in 24 you were there in 20s yeah i doubt we met that was before i was into any of this but uh yeah just the tight crowds the uh the strong man being hard to get to like Keith mentioned earlier. And the bathrooms, of course, just had me laughing.

Kind of brought it all back for me. Did it motivate you at all you think? By that, I mean, did the Eagle stories from either podcast kind of motivate you maybe to pull the trigger and come down to a, well, no, you're all the way. I would say a close drive for you. That's a nine-hour drive, probably, isn't it? No, but it's a pretty quick flight. That's what I did when I went there before, which I probably, I'd probably do that again.

And yes, 100%. I definitely point on coming. Seems like a good time, and I'd like to go back to the Arnold. Actually, your buddy, Andy, is trying to convince me to do the strongest fireman's on my radar. I'm glad you guys got hooked up because I knew that you guys are like Instagram. So I have a good buddy that I train with in Rochester that's not crew, but he's aware of massonomics and stuff. He's friends with Chris Mark and I and Lucas also crew. Jason, if you would.

Yeah, yeah. So Andy's true Jason, but he's done the strongest firefighter in the world or whatever, the Strongman show is a firefighter specific in Columbus the past few years. And I think I shared both your guys' Instagrams with each other and hopefully in hopes that you would bond over strength and firefighting. And it sounds like that happened. So that makes me very happy. Yes.

Thank you for that. Yeah, man. That makes me super, super happy. So a rating on the Massonomics episode, if you have one, my friend. Easily going to give that five out of five. Come with me if you want to come. Fair. Yeah, I enjoyed it.

It was, when did I listen to that? I think I listened to most of it last week and then recorded our episode. I know, we recorded our, we recorded on, no, because there was Wednesday maybe. I can't remember. I can't keep it straight, but I definitely listen to theirs, recorded ours and listen to the rest of it on Sunday. So yes, again, it a lot of is mixed up. What did they talk about other than the Arnold or anything? Or was it pretty much all Arnold?

I can't really. It was really just the honored recap that stuck out from memory. It's just so bad at keeping track of their episodes anymore. But I'm sure I loved it. So I'll go have and give it five out of five, Youngla's. Youngla? Yeah. Yeah, I definitely listened to it.

Again, major fomo. I miss hanging out with you guys. I don't think I miss the Arnold Expo. I did 23 and 24, or did I? I'm pretty sure. I did 23 and 24. You did 23, 24. I did it.

I didn't, fuck, now I get me. And, uh, I missed one year and you were there, the one year. So, two years. All I'll say is, no, I kind of felt that it wasn't for us. So, uh, I can see that. The Eagles for us.

Well, the Eagles for us, but. The Arnold's dead for crew, I think. I noticed they did not talk about whether or not it counts. if you go to the eagle but not the Arnold, does that count as a Hall of Fame check mark? If it does, I would argue to Tanner to death that coming to Columbus, that is a valid question to pose to him

if he's listening, I'm sure he'll answer, but like, because that's, so there's a couple guys, there's one guy specifically, uh, I just want to say it's Big Joe. I feel like an asshole if I'm wrong. One of the guys,

he gave Hogan and I a ride home and Anthony he arrived home two years ago. He lives in Columbus, doesn't give a fuck about, the Arnold won't go to the Arnold, but did the EO two years in a row. Yeah. To me, that's the Arnold check work, in my opinion. I know I said it doesn't count, but after hearing how you guys talked about it and how

they talked about it. We all shit on the Arnold and, you know, I think it counts. Yeah. I think even if, even if I was to make the trip to Columbus, I would probably skip the Arnold. I'll be like 100% with it. I don't think I need to go back ever again for. No, no.

And I know me and you talked about it privately, but it's just like, I don't, I don't, I don't know who any of these people were. Half the time, I didn't, when I went to the Arnold in 2023, I knew like 50% of people. I knew Dan Bell. I got to hang out with Dan Bell. I knew Mitch Hooper a little bit because of what Steve had told me. Like, I had known some of these people.

Then the next year it was different. It was like 30%. And now I imagine me going and not knowing anybody. So somebody who doesn't know people. you're going to know more crew that you see than you would influencers right so I can't see a reason for me to go there

if that's the only reason to go there so I'll give that five out of five hillbillias I wasn't that that's Huck Finnett's that's thing he started it yep making fun of young L.A. with I think he said he was going to make a

fuck young L.A. shirt and then a young hillbillie shirt. He did. He did think you nailed it on the head when you said young L.A. looks like Gothic and Hardy, that had me laughing so hard. Okay, so first of all, as a former goth, fuck you. I didn't say that. I think someone said

that. I didn't. I know I didn't. Someone else on the podcast had said that somebody did, because there's a lot of guys that are a gym that wear it, and that's all I can think of. But somebody said it. Yeah, I'm not going to sit here and shit on a brand that has gotten people to the gym, specifically if it's getting young

people into the gym. Are those people there for the right reasons? that's not my decision but would I ever wear something from them? Not a fucking chance. When it came in a comfort color.

Still no. I know. I was a joke. Still no. It's not wrong. It's different. Thank you, Matt. Thank you, Matt. From the top rope. Yeah, that was from the top rope. Yeah, that was a double axe handle. You might as well just leave now, Matt,

because that's like, that's your one blip of the night, anything else you say we're just going to ignore it's not funny that's your blip of the night he's a love you buddy it's made his world uh already this is great audio only content yeah i know he probably should join us at least for general topics at some point he's a very funny very funny guy um i don't know if i've said it before count it on the podcast so he said to get credit for it i don't know if i've said it before before we get into the next step there. But Matt, I'm very happy you join crew.

You're very funny. You're very outgoing and fun. I'm very happy you're here. And that's FitMat, Fat, Matt on Instagram for anyone who's curious. Are who we're talking about because there's 97 Mats now? He makes me laugh on a regular basis. Anyway. Affiliates.

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And please don't make them as big as like two hands. Oh, stop it. Average, average size to small stickers. Perfect. Hey, average size is different to everybody. Yeah. Have you met Joe Lisa? That's only going to land if you include some of the pre-show name.

The, um, I mean, I've said it before. I didn't do vinyl stickers. not on purpose for the second last run I did. And I'm now using those to seal the envelopes that I send to you with the real stickers. So that should be a hint at how you should invest honestly into your stickers because it becomes a waste if they're shitty quality. And of course, belt fed strength, big Chris out there doing great work. He's giving you 10% off. Like that's a custom made, handmade belt that he's giving you 10% off with code unpaid.

you just got to be a crew member to get it. That's insane. And the straps, too. He's got really good deadlift straps. Handmade custom, well, handmade deadlift straps. They're dope. Yeah. And make sure you ask him about holding up your pants.

He loves making regular belts too. I was following his Instagram story the other day. And I mean, we can go on a little side thing here just because it was so random. I want to say it was something like someone walked into his house and was just his daughter home alone, like his, like, teenage daughter. And he had to, like, like, I think he restrained himself to not go to jail, but, like, still did a little bit of something.

And I'm just like, I was reading, like, it was like a 20-page story update. And I was like, God damn, man, that's, there's some crazy motherfuckers out there that do some stupid fucking shit. And, like, your whole life could be changed in a blink of an eye of just someone, someone making a bad decision hurting someone in your family. That's bad enough. But then you happen to make a reactive decision that hurts your life. It's scary.

So, I'm glad. glad that didn't turn out worse than I did, I guess. Code unpaid. Code unpaid jail time. Big Joe, do you have a, do you have a super happy, uplifting, cheerful ad read for us after all this negativity that I've been bringing to the house? Yes, I do. Yes, I do. So my ad read is actually interactive. So you guys are going to be involved in this, too. Oh, shit. I'm going to ask you guys questions individually, and you're going to answer yes, no, or something along those lines. So we're going to start with Joey.

Yep. Do you like to lift hard and live easy? Sure do. Keith, would you join a gaggle of worldwide friends you met on the internet and interact with them daily like you've known them for years? Fuck yeah. All right. Joey, would you wear matching clothing with these said friends? I would love to.

Keith, would you arrange gatherings of regional charters with these friends? Sounds like the best time ever. Joey, would you tune in weekly to heed the word of two long-haired charismatic gentlemen from the Midwest? Especially if Tanner never shaves, yes. Keith, are you willing to give money monthly to support their message of how to use your strength? I would say willingly, maybe a little begrudgeonly, but yes, willingly, yes, currently active. And lastly, Joey, are you willing to make a pilgrimage? to gather in the motherland of northwest, southeast Dakota,

to perform witch rolls, such as lifting as a group and sacrificing sobriety. The amount of times I have done that is more than one would expect. If you answered yes to all these questions, I know what you're thinking, but I have great news for you. You are not an occult. You are crew. Mastinomics isn't just a podcast.

Memes and overpriced shorts. It's grown into a community of light-minded gym nerds. who take their training seriously, but not themselves. If this is something on your radar, you better act fast. There's only three spots left. But remember, if you leave, you are dead to us.

Dead to us. The only way you get out is going to go back to fighting. Get your supporting membership today at esnomics.com. That's such a good one. I love that harkin. Oh, that's funny. If you leave through, you're dead to me. Like, that's a thing.

I mean, I don't really care. what you do. Yeah, right? Like, good luck. Unless we were friends before, maybe, but it's like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. If we only have that in common,

there's got to be a... I also... Like, I don't mean it. It's just one of those random hard lines in the sand that's like, if you're a cool person and we got along when you were in crew and you leave crew and we still get along, I'll still probably, but if you're one of those people that, like,

I don't know, makes really weird. pronoun jokes in the discord that suddenly leaves crew, I don't know if we're going to get along after that. Like, you might be a good person, but maybe not the place to do that. I will say there was one thing. I was telling somebody at work about massonomics and I talked about how Morgan said, we're like a cult without the bad things.

And how that has been repeated on the podcast and in the discord and things like that. I also added, it's like a cult that forgot it had a purpose. Because like most cults are like death cults or they're like some weird end of something. And we're just like, now we're going to do everything up until that point. We're going to do the dress the same, talk the same. Like listen to the same thing every week and all that. And then it's like, okay, but what's the role? Like what's the end purpose?

And we're like, I don't know. Like. To make more dick jokes. Yeah, to have fun and yeah. So anyway, I want to get our guest on there, Keith? Yeah, Big Joe, is that you, buddy? You there? Hello, hello.

That is me. It's a little dark and hard to see me, but I promise you I am here. Oh, yeah, make sure your battery doesn't die using that dome light. That'd be horrible. The truck's running. Gas is super cheap right now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's great.

Gas is going great right now. Yeah, that's been fun. So Big Joe, I know who you are. Go ahead and, but go ahead and let the people know. I know you're one of these guys that have very vague. This is my handle and then it doesn't make any. So, yeah, let people know how to find you on Instagram and Discord. Big Lisa on Discord.

I am not Bulldog. I'm actually a person. And on Instagram, I am JL799. Yeah, that's the worst. And there's an underscore in there. So if you literally type J and that underscores, you're going to change it. Well, you don't even.

have to change that, but like, you don't have a regular name in your profile. Like, I, I, I, I'm, I, I, may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure as long as your username or your display name, even though your display name, like you can, I think when your search, it would, would populate either, I believe,

I don't know, so if you just put like, No, I typed in Joe Lisa and got shit. Well, no, because his display name is blank. He doesn't fucking have anything. So it's literally, like, it's, he has nothing in his profile, except I think crew, maybe. And then his username is just Joe underscore, L, Lisa, whatever.

But I think if you just typed in, even if you just put Joe as your username, or Big Joe, I think if I typed in Joe, you might pop up with the other three Joe's. But like, are we talking to Instagram or Discord at this point? Instagram, specifically. His Discord is, I think, you're the hardest person to fucking get a hold of on social

media is all I know. You've been a struggle to fuck. Because I'm like, I was just, I was, I DMed him like two days ago. Where the fuck is my chat? I can't find it. Let me just search his name. Oh, I'll,

just look through my hundred messages instead that'll be easier see i just went to discord and he has it in his discord profile so i found it that way yeah so anyway so joe said it'll change it i will if he does we're gonna have to we're gonna have to yell at him um but that's where you can maybe find joe uh we'll have always stuffed linked in the description um well we heard a little bit of your story about coming to the arnold and whatnot so i want to hear your whole massonomics origin story how'd you find them when you get into crew why are you here all that good stuff So I actually kind of came here twice. I started by doing a deep dive into Josh Bryant.

I was following a lot of his stuff. So I was just listening to every podcast I could possibly find with him in it. And then I stumbled upon Masonomics. And I was that guy right off the rip. I did not fucking understand it. Like, what are these guys talking about? I had no idea. I didn't understand the layout.

I just want to hear Bob Bell talk. Right. when's the guest going to get on? I was so boss. Oh, did you YouTube comment it though? No, no,

no. Oh, come on. Well, less time even getting his YouTube would be a whole other username. We don't know how to explain either probably. It would be J underscore LJ underscore. I rarely,

consume by YouTube. So I found him that way, listened to the podcast. That was the only one I listened to for a long time. And then Big Adam and I, we used to a, Like, so, let's do it in, like, real time. So like, like, it was that 19, 20, 21 somewhere in that, right?

I'm trying to. Yeah. 2020 is when they started doing guests. So 2021 to 2020. No, they were doing guests before 2020. Not, not particularly, because I can tell you, I'm in episode 192, which is November of 2019. And they had not really started guests yet. Hmm.

Because I started. No, it was, uh, it was definitely older on a podcast. Oh, nonetheless. Yeah. Either way, I have, I have a wrecked. tangled, I can figure that out if you guys really want the answer. I was going to it. Then I remember to my screen was fucked up.

I just threw my fucking phone across the room. It's on the other side of the bed now. It's fucked that fun. But nonetheless, okay. So you did the Josh Bryant, you know, listen to that episode, call it five years ago, thought they were stupid, didn't like it, still followed Josh Bryant,

and then you found MSNomics again. Yeah, then Big Adam and I used to be in the Discord for table talk. And we liked it for a while, but it was, I don't know, it was too serious. Like, guys were just not, it wasn't fun. Some of those guys came over were pretty douchey. And Adam was already in yours or theirs. And he's like, hey, why don't you come in here?

I was like, I try this on the podcast once. I didn't really understand it. He's like, I promise you, you just need to listen to a couple times. Then you're going to understand all the inside jokes. And then you're going to absolutely love it. It's like, everybody in here has the same mentality of us. Like, all right, I'll give it a shot. And then I was hooked immediately.

then started doing the back catalog, all that kind of shit. Not that far back, but we're getting there. That was episode 356 in January of 2023. Oh, shit. Yeah, I don't remember it at all. A big rectangle.

I said it at work today. Like, we were talking about something and like we couldn't remember it. And I was like, I literally have a rectangle with the world in front of me. Why are we talking about this? I have the answer. All right.

you want to do uh you know what let's skip that one one piece of massonomics merch you wish you had bought because you you came in late 2023 yep the uh the one that i wanted i think was gone before i even joined was the socks like that's something i would absolutely wear and something i'd like to wear at competitions represent because i don't wear like headbands or anything yeah but that's that's that's when i would want i've got three pairs the readily available headbands that haven't existed in five years those those those that was a bad analogy joe I'd love a Masonics headband now that I wear sweatbands.

Well, I'm not skipping. Is there a reason we're skipping that? No, no, no. I just wanted to ask that one before you. Okay, perfect. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Joe, where do you live? Where are you from?

I live in the outskirts of Albany. I'm from Albany originally and I haven't really moved far from here. What state's that in? The biggest state of New York, of course. I bet. I mean, most people should know. I guarantee there's at least one person. I don't know.

Is there at least one person that doesn't know where Albany is, you think? Oh, there's a lot of people that don't. People don't know this is a capital state. Like, not even like, not that it's, but like they have, because Albany, like, I don't know that when I was, before I moved to New York, I don't think I would have known what Albany is. I wouldn't have cared. I think there's three or four Albany's too. So, like, yeah, a lot of people don't know where it is. Okay.

So, yes, Albany, New York. I feel validated for, uh, maybe. can just state that. I know there's one in Georgia and then there's one Alaska too, I believe. But if somebody says I'm from Albany, then nobody's like, which one?

Like most people assume it's New York. No, but I'm saying most people just might not have hurt, like they, I can't, maybe I could, but I was going to say, as a Canadian, I knew there was an Albany. Yeah, because you're fucking like six hours from it, but like if you lived in California and lived under a rock

like Garrison does, would, and he might know where Albany is, but like, there's got to be some fucking, like, does, does Big Tom at the gym know that Albany is in the state of New York, you know, like that I don't know. All he knows is it's very far away.

But we'll stop harping on that. No, you don't know your Hall of Fame status at the moment. We'll get that later. We can do that with him. If he wants, if he's, that would, if you have, let me, I can talk. Yeah, there won't be too many, so.

do you have a cart? I don't believe so. My number is 358. I'm sorry, 4.58. Yeah, so on your next order, or if you ordered from this one,

just message to enter and say, send me a card. He's got a few of them. But I think it's always worth going over to see. And listeners might not be. I will bring it up as a point of topic. Just throw it out there, just to kind of stir the pot and some grease.

I won't say who it was, but I had someone in confidence kind of mentioned to me like do you think people that weren't around for the hall of fame card gift qualify for the hall of fame yes like i mean there's people that could argue that no but i mean i you're newer you could still achieve everything realistically it would save longer but i i can see i'm not saying that's how i feel i'm just saying someone had shared that opinion because you know it was a gift that you had to be a crew for i would say if that person is listening uh yeah you Yeah, I see where you're coming from.

Because, you know, you want to be the I was around at the time of. But at the same time, this is a crew thing. Anybody can do it if they put in the work and the effort. And, you know, look at the opposite. I'm still here without a jacket, despite being a jacket member for almost a year now. And, like... You're not in that discord that I'm in. Yeah, the argument would be that, like...

you know, if I'm not allowed to be a jacket member because I don't have my jacket, then I think the opposite would be true that if you weren't around during the crew time of that, then you are eligible to just become Hall of Fame. I wasn't trying to stir the pot. I was just something that I, as I was the person I've looked for the Hall of Fame card, and I was just like, oh, I remember that one, my one buddy had said that once, and I had never really shared it on the podcast. I'm not trying to show shade at anyone either direction,

depending on which opinion you have. I get it. I can actually see where. that person's coming from, but I just disagree. All right, so Hall of Fame, Joe, you can call them out. Attend Lift Hard-Livisi. No. Yeah.

You didn't think hard on that one, bud. Compete at the Lift-Hard-Livisi. Nope. Attend the Arnold. That was PC, pre-crew, so now. Yes, it does count. Did you meet Mathonomics while you were there or any crew members? I did.

I went to the booth. So to argue that, though, Tanner did say if they change home gym con to the Arnold slash home gym con it'll only be from then going forward so does that the same thing as if you were at the Arnold prior to crew like I don't know I'd still say you did it I'm not like I was 100% say you still did it but I'm just saying I'm giving it but also like no one really cares like half the fucking horse stall Matt gripper videos are cheating anyway so no one cares that wasn't locked out but sure we'll give you the lift so like no one's really if like no one's really gatekeeping this stuff because everyone still gets to participation trophy, even if it's kind of question. I'm giving it to them. You always have to be your own auditor and all this shit,

because Tanner and Tommy are too busy to really go in the weeds zone. Everybody's submissions of anything. So just don't be the douche. Next. Attend crew falls. No. Membership, one year, two year, four year. I think I'm a little over one year.

All right. Drink spotter. Yes. Nice. Band merch. No. Man, you don't have anything banned? That's wild.

You don't have anything with a beer logo? I have stickers with beer logos. But I don't think those count. They were free. I don't think it's got to be a banner or a shirt or a flag. Shorts. Ten online orders. Not yet, not yet, no.

That's an easy fix. That is an easy fix. It is an easy fix. Contest winner. No. Nope. Voice on the Mastonics podcast. Nope.

Appear on you and you. Hey. What up? Yep. Picture with a supporting member. Yes. On Instagram, that is. Lifted a Massonomics gym.

No. And then listen to the first 400. It sounded like, no, not yet. No, not yet. Good deal. So what's that? Five. Just getting that's more than I thought.

Yeah, that's great. Realistically, you'll hit two years and the next year, you'll maybe do 10 orders if you, some drops, you catch your eye. If there's anything left in this, it's just a matter of submitting, you know, just being on social media and submitting your phone, you know, your phone number and your thing at the right time. That one's not the hardest to do. Another net, you've got to come. You basically have to go to Crew Falls to, or Massnomics gym that were, but you have to make some South Dakota trip one or the other, but mainly the lift hard. So you got a ways to go, but you'll get there.

But what do I always say about the Hall of Fame? One is better than none. And you're at five, my friend. so good work. Oh, yeah. Because you're only in one Hall of Fame, and it's better than none, but I'm in two Hall of Fame.

You're in two Hall of Fame? Yeah, the Sippy Cup was a Hall of Fame and then the jacket level Hall of Fame because you're not, yeah, you're adjacent to two, but you're like, you're like 1.69.

Yeah, wait till Masters comes out. No. That's fine. You can leapfrog me, but you could have 16 done, but until you come get it, you still don't have your... I know, right?

Like, that's such bullshit. Like that would, that would actually be the funniest is if you finally do. If I get the Masters and they're like, yeah, but you don't have your jacket. So therefore, like, you don't count. That would be funny. It doesn't say I need a jacket to be a Masters. Yeah, Master completer that he is. All right.

The Master complete you. Mm-hmm. Supporting membership number. That was the, I was the 458 we had talked about, right? Yes, sir. 458. That's not, I mean, that's, we're at what? like 8 fucking 50 now or something wild

I know we're over 8 it's gonna be what they're gonna hit I mean I don't know it's realistic they hit a K at some point soon in the next year or so because obviously people leave people come in so it's I mean it's steadily we were at 600 a couple like less than two years ago we were at 700 last year probably so it's

with how fast Jim radar is taken off I bet they hit a K pretty soon I was actually gonna ask I did want to I should ask Tanner that and like I want to know I don't know if CTFs being purchased certified training facility flags. If anyone unfamiliar, you know,

we've always known what that was. I've never had that acronym mixed up in my life ever. We didn't like call it the wrong thing for like three years on this podcast. No, that wasn't a thing. But I'm curious if we sold more seats,

whatever, it was on the fucking dock that we both used. I'm curious if those have picked up in sales and then how much of that translated into just new crew. And I'm curious about, we've got a ton of like, I'm curious if it's,

I don't know, as I've been, And I've kind of, I've, I've, I've traded out the follow us on YouTube with, hey, go specifically talk in our Discord channel in the massonomics discord. And like the past month or so every week, it's great. We get a couple comments. This week we have a ton. So like, and then like, people are telling people are talking? I've never seen before. And I'm like, oh, this is a new listener.

Are they, are they new crew because of Jim Radar? Are they new crew that just kind of got into this? But I don't, either way, it's cool as fuck because they're listening to our shit. So that helps this wheel keep rolling that is you and you. because I'm exhausted all my OGs. If there's an OG that you want on, I probably already reached out to them and they either turn me down or ignored me.

So if there's someone that you're like, oh man, well, how come this person's been around for five years hasn't been on the podcast? It might be a reason why, but always feel free to ask them and tell them to reach out to me because I'd love to get some of the OGs on.

I am so sorry to interrupt you, but I would love to get back to the guest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you're the one that was talking about something else. I actually have a question before we get back. anyway, is there a line in the sand where new crew versus OG? No. I was wondering what number that would be.

Do you need anything under? Nope. No. I have a number in mind. Of course you do. Yep. That does not surprise me. But, I mean, let's look at somebody who is new like, you know what?

Actually, I owe this man an apology, Kurt, who. There's literally seven, so. No, Kurt, who was my savior at the Lift Hardly Veezy, that I kept accrediting to Gary. That guy was like a week in and just settled in right quick, right? So, and we consider that guy like close-knit crew, whereas you might have somebody who's been here for... That is true. You know what? Let's look at the first five people.

Let's look at the first five crew members. And me and Keith had that list at some point. one of those people talk regularly. Yeah. And most of them are still there. They're still supporting. They're still paying their dues. They're still around.

Are they more important than somebody like Gary or Kurt or Matt or Joe or somebody who joins crew and might be in the seven, eight hundreds and is way more engaged? Nope. I would say that there is no. argument that anybody is more important than anybody else. Oh, that wasn't his question, though. His question was OG. In my opinion, OG, fucking. Like, that means, like, an old fucker.

So that, to me, that'd be, like, 200. Yeah, there is the OG. But also, I do respect a lot more. There's a lot of people in the sub-200s that I, like, are kind of dushy and might not ever talk to us or don't even exist on Discord. And they're just people that maybe bought a membership and forgot about it. So, like, whatever, they don't do anything for our podcast or our discord. Should we say, should we maybe then, like, elder crew?

I think OG is fine. I don't know. I like the idea of elder crew. Like the first 200 that when somebody is like, like I got a message the other day from somebody that's like,

I just joined. I need help figuring out discord. And I felt like, you know, I'm elder. I'm at this point. The person that's going to help you get into this mess

of whatever we're doing. And, you know, like that's elder to me, not OG because OG, I don't know what it feels like because some of them air in and out, some of them don't want to be around,

but I still want to be a part of things. I think there are elder crew. I could probably name 10 of them if I felt like it, but I don't think so, because I think there is an argument that guys like Gary and Matt and out and things, people that join later that are so engaged, they could help new people as well.

So I don't have a number, but again, I'm not that type of person. no i didn't want to seem like i'm gatekeeping like you have to have a low number to have my respect there's a lot of people with low numbers that i might not even like but there's a lot of people that are in the seven six you know fucking 400 800 that have been guest already so some of the coolest people and closest i mean i think i'm in the the group chat with all my buddies that i've stayed with the last couple trips and they're all probably in the 400 pluses maybe 300 so it's

like that i don't give a shit about but yeah every now and then it is you could do kind of go like we have like battle stories almost with people that were around in 2020, 2020, 2021 and stuff that like the new guys wouldn't necessarily get. But a lot of those people have sadly kind of, they might still be crew, but once the last time you saw them say anything at all in Discord, like if they weren't in,

like if you didn't see them on Instagram, you wouldn't even know they're like alive anymore. But so there might be reasons for that. Right. And some of those people reach out. Some of those people talk to me about those reasons and things like that. So either way. But,

but we do have a guess. So we will. Yeah. It was a good question. That is fair. That might have to count as your question for later. That was a very, yeah, you should have added that at the end there. Yeah, but we're good.

The CTF, do you have one? I know you, did you ever certify the gym that you work at and train out of? No, actually, I didn't know you could actually certify a public gym. Oh, man. What the hell? That's a thing? I thought it was a home gym thing only. No, well, they don't discriminate against money, so they're all about.

There's quite a few. Like Antony has his gym that he trains out certified. Garrett has, I think, two public gyms that he trains out certified. I mean, you could even put it on gym radar if you wanted to and add all the equipment. That's actually a quick little. We actually, we'll talk about that next week and we have Nate on. But there's, I still, I think commercial gyms honestly could get in on gym radar and really help their business to some extent. It might just be a lot of legwork.

It's not worth it. But I do think there's. Actually, I'm going to add that to next week because I... If I didn't, I think it isn't just... I have gym radar generic, but that specifically... The place I go to buy my gym equipment from is a retailer, supplier, and manufacturer. And I showed the manager, and then I was like, you need to be on this. And she was...

Yeah, and she was just like, oh, my God. Yeah, well, like, even the people that run the company, like, she doesn't run the company. But she was like, I'm going to send this up. because you're right. Like, we need to be on this. Yeah. Yeah, a good friend of mine actually runs the gym and I work for him. So that's something I actually might pitch to him.

I mean, he's not going to do it, but I'll happily do it for him. Yeah, I mean. Where'd you do everything there anyway? Yeah. Yeah, Jack, Jack of all trades over there. So you got to get that. Well, you're on the U&U podcast. You sent this out to a handful of people.

Did you, how did you go by explaining the podcast about a podcast about my cult to get them to fill it out. Easiest way for me to explain it because I knew there was no possible way that I could have said, hey, fill this out, it's about lifting, it's a bunch of dudes that I talk to about lifting, and they're just going to interview me.

Like, all right, whatever. See enough. All right. Are you familiar with the game, least fun, most fun? I am. Okay, so I'm going to ask you, I'm going to give you, to set you up with a single topic, and go through it and give me the least fun thing

about it, as well as, in addition to the most fun thing. fun thing about it. So two separate answers, please. Least fun, most fun. Preping for the Salt City Strongman show that our good friend Dan Eager is putting on next month that you are going to be a competitor in.

Yeah. Most fun is the fact that I'm actually going to get to do it this year because last year I signed up for it and severed the hand in my thumb. So I had to drop from competitor to volunteer. You still spotted and loaded with one fucking arm too, didn't you? Yeah, and Big Dan

says I strictly injured myself so I could get two of his t-shirts. Oh, I just signed up and then they had to give you a different color when to be a sub-loader. Volunteer, that is. Both on comfort colors. Fantastic shirts. So that's the most fun is actually I get to do it this year.

And least fun is the fact that I'm doing one four weeks ahead of it too. So I'm really going to beat myself up here. So that's like, that's next week then. Yeah, next weekend. The entire state. Yeah, yeah. To bring Albany back up, all of the Albany,

York, there is a local to him, Strongman show. How many people ended up signing up for that? The roster was a total. I'm not. Last time we talked. Yeah, total, I'm not sure. Dan made a deal with me.

He said, if I sign up, he'll sign up. So that got two in our weight class. And then we ended up getting four in our weight class now. Oh, that saved Jamie's ass then, probably. Yeah, and like selfishly, I wanted, I didn't plan on doing the show because I'm going to do Dan's, but I want more strong men in the capital region because driving to Syracuse all the time is expensive

and staying hotels for wait-ins and whatnot. So I would like to see Jamie do well. So I'd like him to come back next year. So selfishly, I would like more people to do it. That means I beat myself up in the month. I'll be fine. Which one's a harder show? Which one's a heavier show for you?

Dan likes to make things really heavy. so that one's heavy. So I'm glad I'm doing intermediate if I do it. But I cut down, I'm cutting down to the 230 one-way class for Dan's, which is really going to screw me in Jamie's, because two different federations, so I got to compete in the 275 at 230.

So that'll be eye-opening for me. Yeah, and it sounds expensive too, because I'm debating on doing two different shows in the coming months, and it's like, oh, I have to do the, you know, an $80 membership in two separate federations. like this is ass. Yeah, and of course, both of my memberships are expired,

so I got to buy both of them too. Yeah, yeah. So, but good deal, good deal. I like to talk strong. I can talk local strong men all day. I know some of this isn't as relevant to people because we're kind of like throwing out names of people that only like four people listen to this podcast might know.

But all right, what do you got for them, Joey? So let's go with, um, who would your ideal training partner? Like, if you could train with anybody, alive, dead, or, Who would that be? I wasn't ready for this one. I was to train with anybody. Actually, I think it's going to be a relatively unknown guy. When I went to the Arnold, I got to watch Andrew Burton win the World Strongest Fireman,

so I started following him then. And then I watched him go up in ranks, and he just competed this year in the, you know, are an old classic. So just because watching him progress and being in the same field and whatnot, I would like to actually train with him. All right. Okay, cool. Note for yourself, if you're looking for a podcast, the Iron Edge, he was a guest

on that recently, and basically it did like a full life story and like lifting story. So just Google his name on podcast or do the Iron Edge. And it sounds like if someone you would like to listen to the full episode of. I appreciate that. Yeah, brother. So a lot of us know the answer already, but anyone as much as much or as little as you're familiar with comfortable talking about your occupation, what you do for a living? For a living, I work way too much. My full-time job, I'm fireman in Albany.

Part-time, I work on an ambulance locally. And then I also do property maintenance for the guy who owns the gym I train at, and he has a bunch of rental property. so I'm constantly doing work for him too. So I work way too much. That sounds horrible. I didn't, I knew you were doing, like, I knew you did gym maintenance. I didn't know you did, like,

apartment maintenance because that's, or like residential maintenance because that's, that's unpleasant. Are you on call for him then, too? Or is it just like, hey, buddy, I need you go do this when you get a chance if you want? Yeah, that's pretty much it.

Okay, because being on call would be unpaid as fuck. Yeah, no, and like, I work the ambulance at night, and then I'm in the firehouse, 24 hours. So, like, the on-call thing is stock. to work for me. That'd be very unpaid. Yes, that is wild.

So that's the, so have you always done the double dip with the, uh, the side EMT thing to kind of supplement stuff? Or was that just, uh, man, I just need more to do. Like, what, what, what motivated you to have two and a half, uh, full time jobs? I actually started on the ambulance before I got into the fire department. So I started working as a paramedic, uh, uh, worldly out in Albany County. And then end up getting the fire department through guys I worked with that way. So I just, I never left. And it just, it fits my lifestyle nights.

Like, I like working nights. And, um, it's, it's not bad. I wouldn't be doing it if I didn't like it. So you did the EMT more in the rural, like the whole county essentially or like just in the outskirts, whatever. And then like the firefighter specifically, you're like, you're like downtown, downtown. Yeah. Yep. My, my fairhouse is in the hood.

And we do, uh, obviously fire, but also EMS for the city as well. Mm. Oh, lots of calls then I imagine. Yeah, we're a busiest firehouse in the city. We do about 42 to 4,300 calls a year. Jeez. I like to stay busy if you can't tell. Is that like 15 a day or something then?

I'm not big math, but like my quick division there was 15-ish. Yeah, ballpark. We're usually somewhere between 10 and 20 a day. Damn. Hit the nail on the head there then. Good deal. We never actually count, well, I mean, we do, but we don't really count the calls.

It's whatever after midnight. Whenever somebody asked you how your shift was. Oh, I did. four after mud day, because that's all that really matters. Nice. And are you on, um, I know we do, I would only ask this because I know we have a handful of firefighters, but do you want to nerd out as far as like what your actual job on the truck is, what your position is or anything like that? Yeah. So we, like I said, we do, a EMS and fire for the city. So my house has a paramedic unit and an engine. Engines

want the water on it. And, uh, all the guys that I work with were all friends. So I bid the paramedic unit. They bid the engines because they're senior to me. and then we rotate between the two companies. So every day we just rotate. I drive the truck one day, then I'm in the back with the hose, then I'm on the paramedic unit, and then we just keep rotating like that.

It's phenomenal. It sounds like it's good. That's probably better than just doing the same thing every day, you would think. It's got to help your resume a little bit that you're efficient and up to date on all these different skills versus just being complacent at one thing.

It's cool stuff. Yeah, the engine is much, busier than the paramedic unit. So it's nice to rotate between the two companies and I get beat up all the time too. Especially when you work, nine other jobs. Yeah, you got to get you a break there one of these days. So

lifting history, anything, you're going to walk us through that timeline of all? Yeah, I started back in high school as a distance runner and cross-country, indoor, outdoor track, just kind of gotten to the weights that way. went to college, ran track in college, and then I got sick of not enjoying my college experience. So I just stopped running track.

And the guys I lived with were exercise science majors. And they were all power lifters. So they're like, hey, want to try this? I know you weigh nothing soaking wet, but because you're a runner. But once you jump in and start lifting weights, and that's kind of how I got into powerlifting. I've been doing that since college. And recently switched over to the. the strong man world.

And that was actually through work because we had a few, a few bad fires last year, two years ago. And it's like, I need to change something. I was so gassed and just dying out of breath. Like, I have to get away from powerlifting, something with a little more cardio in it. That's how I ended up finding the Josh Bryant stuff, which in turn led me here.

Firehouse ready? Yes. Well, that's all. awesome. I do like good origin story. Good, a good strong man origin. And you've ended up kind of going on. I wish I did it years ago. This is so much more fun than power lifting.

And the community is so much better. No offense to power lifting, but. I feel like we all got to cut her teeth in power lifting for a bit. And then I don't know, I'm very, very happy with my transition. The last gone up there is a sound bite for somebody that wants to be funny. But it's been very enjoyable the past couple.

I'm glad other people are starting starting strong man at the right age of 35. is probably. I would like to do it a lot younger. Nope. Next step is Highland. You'd be masters soon now. That'll be a little, then, well, even Dan's masters is heavy as shit, but five years from now, fingers crossed, that we still are lucky enough to have like five strong man

promoters across the state that I'll put a couple shows on at least. I mean, knock on wood, knock on everything. I've actually noticed less injuries switching over to strongman than doing power lifting. And I think that's just from the repetitive nature of power lifting. Even like a working main or just like, totally in the gym or both. Everything across the board.

Like I figured switching to a strong man as like you'd get beat up, lift all this weird shit, but actually quite the opposite. Differently strong, I guess you'd say. I suppose if you were theoretically just a dumbass and just did events three days a week, maybe you'd be more hurt.

Right. Like strong man isn't just a, it's not three event days. It's like it's two to three general strength days and then an event day or maybe even a couple like event sprinkled in. But you're not, you're not doing like a killer. out with odd objects four days a week necessarily,

or at least not more than one set or something, you know, I don't know. It's good stuff. Yeah, I'm glad to hear. Thankfully, uh, Big Dan turned me onto the MST app, which alleviates you from doing constantly. I like it. I'm a big fan of it. What's that run a month? Is it like a juggernaut price according like the ballpark or is that more?

What is juggernaut's price? I actually don't know it. Four, twenty, I don't know. About 45. It's less than that. I think it's less than 30 bucks a month. Like 2499, I believe. It was very cheap.

Yeah, I've looked at it and thought about it. And then they got the associated Facebook group, which is fantastic because they do like technique Tuesdays and PR Saturdays or whatever. You post all the shit. And then coaches get in there. They respond to you.

Kind of like having a coach, but not having a coach. Spoil alert. Not that anyone should go find him on Facebook because a lot of people think Facebook's, you know, keep it more private. But his name on Facebook is also just as bad as all his other names. It's not your own name. There is a reason for that. No, I know.

I know. I get, that was more of a jab. Like, I get most of my friends that are first responders don't have real names on Facebook. And I, 100% that's valid. It's just more of a joke that, like, you have, you have the worst fucking handles that anyone could find because they can't find you. I'm glad it's working because that was kind of by design. Yep. Yep.

Facebook I strictly use for marketplace I don't use it for anything else hence where there's no pictures no nothing on there good deal so you used to play bass I hear that's big in the crew do you why did you stop

I don't play anymore I didn't notice until like a couple episodes ago on your podcast that this whole bass thing was kind of a thing so many I guess I gotta throw that out there there's no way it's less than 20 Like there's no way that,

if 20 was the over under, it would be hard to take the over, but like if 15 was the over, it's definitely, or the over under, it's definitely over. Yeah. I'd say somewhere between 15 and 25,

people have said they've played bass. Like, and we've talked about it in depth. And more than likely, I probably started the same way that they did. They had a friend that played guitar and they needed a friend that play bass. Yeah.

Like, yeah. Why don't you play bass? Go on the internet, learn some tabs, and then we'll play together. That's, That's how I started playing.

I get a kick out of this one, the way this one thing submitted. I'm assuming it was from your mom, but it's, they are very strong. One, his first strong, his first pro strongman comp. And I'm like,

I don't think it was a pro strong man. I don't think that was pro. I mean, I just, I chuckled with that. It's like, maybe, like,

you're your first novice strongman show, but my, my first novice strong man where I was also first and last place. Yes. So you've done two or three comps so far then? How would you have you done for Strong Man? Two. Both both up at 315 Strong.

Then I volunteered for Jamie's. That's right. Yeah, I think that's where we first met was your first. Was that your first comp then, the one we met at last fall? Yes. Yep, that was the first one. That was the longest show. I feel bad because you were there for like, it was like a nine hour show or something.

It was only like fucking 20 people. Like it was ridiculous. I might be exaggerated on both numbers a little bit, but you can, you can clarify. I don't think I'm that far off. It felt like a power for me. It was, it was that long. Yeah. Hour-wise, I'm not sure how much, but it sure felt like nine hours.

Yeah. I know I didn't get home until like fucking nine o'clock that night, and I left at like 7 a.m. I'm like, it was the longest goddamn day ever. Big shout out to your mom. If I could just throw this out here, I think she's the first person ever, put an emoji in the responses. That sounds like her, too. That's definitely her.

You're either looking at her or you're looking at my buddy from Germany. No. She says, he insists, I stunted his growth because he had to go on a soy formula due to a dairy allergy as a baby. But look at you now. Heart emoji. I don't think I've ever seen a heart emoji in these responses ever.

You've got some real time. eggplants, but I don't think we've had a positive emoji. Maybe some vulgar dick emojis, but that might be it. That's incredible. Shout out. But yeah, I do tell her that daily. He gave me soy as a baby.

I could be huge. I could be a pro. You are you? According to her, you are a pro. Tell me about drinking rum and beer at the gym. Oh, that was from Adam. We we worked there. Adam helps me too

working there and we were rebuilding deadlift platforms and we had to keep doing runs to Home Depot because we kept forgetting shit. Then we had to keep going to the tractor supply because we kept run out of stall mats because we were doing multiple platforms at a time and Adam's sitting in the pastoral seat of my truck and he goes, hey, is that a bottle of rum on the floor? I sure is, buddy.

Can I have some? Knock yourself out of the second open container reference tonight. And you know what's hilarious? I don't drink. I very rarely drink. But not that you guys are going to believe that now. But yeah, we got, by the time we got back, we got really toasted because we were building those platforms for hours.

I don't remember the beers, so it might be a little more toasted than I thought. But Mount Gay, Triple Cask, if you guys are rum guys or whiskey guys, fantastic. He's had more injuries at the gym not lifting than he has. lifting. Tell me about that. That's also Adam. Yep. So as we touched on before,

Adam's fellow crew, for anyone's not familiar. Adam's on social media, or he's not on Instagram, but he is on Discord. So if we've talked about him a handful of times in the past, he's another,

I am trying so hard to get him on Instagram. And he's like, I don't want to do it. He doesn't like posting about himself. Like, dude, just get on. There's so much crew. You're going to absolutely love it.

Just like you did for me with Discord. Like, just get involved. It's a fair sell. Will he listen to this podcast, you think? He will, yeah. Good deal. Yep.

He's trying to listen to it now. No, you're good. You're good. So we're, oh, injuries, yeah. So, bum, obviously. Cutting horse stall mats

naturally. Yeah. Cut it with a razor blade. Actually, didn't even know is that bad. I hit a death of pure. No, no, no. This was different time.

Different stall mat. Okay. Yeah. Different stall mat. Yep. Though this one I was doing gym flooring, not platforms. Roger. And actually hit a rep PR on the axle with the severed tendon,

because I didn't know it was severed at the time. With straps or for you? Straps, of course, yeah. Okay, because I'm like, that's. No, I wrapped it up with toilet paper and electrical tape and wanted to get my workout done, not thinking it was actually bad. Went to the hospital to get a couple stitches because it wouldn't heal. But you're literally in T. You should know better.

What the fuck? you don't know this. Anybody who works in the medical field is the worst patient possible. That's a real thing. Every painter's house is poorly painted. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yep, can confirm.

So yeah, went to get a couple stitches and realized it couldn't move the tip of my thumb. I said to the doctor, hey, it's a problem. He goes, yeah, you're going to need surgery. So that was injury number one. I think he's also referring to when I blew my calf out.

doing absolutely nothing. I stepped over a plate or a platform or something and I just felt the pop. I thought it was my Achilles. Just the way it sounded. Like, oh, fuck, that's 100% Achilles. My buddy just ruptured one. It's got to be the same thing. Thankfully, it wasn't. I just ruptured a calf muscle.

Oh, yeah, thankfully. So ironically, Andy, the firefighter in Rochester did that right before the Arnold. So I'm curious if you talk to him about that. Yeah, that's your kindred's spitter spirit there. Yep. Yeah, we definitely got a lot in common me and him. It seems like a good dude. And I think

it's the only other injury I can think of that wasn't injury or a lifting really did. Of course that back injuries and shit that everybody else gets, but there's the only two I can think of relatively recently. So about the Jim's, oh, sorry, okay, yeah, go on, sorry. The last Strongman show you did,

you skipped the sled push, correct? The, the, the drag, the bear crawl or something? Yeah, because you didn't get, you didn't get points for that. and I knew I was going to time out before I got the bag back. Like I did this exact same event last year with lighter weights and I timed out before the bags. So I wasn't going to waste the energy and it was strategic move. Yeah, like after blowing my calf out, that's all I can think about in that kind of movement.

Like, because I was going to sign up for that one too and then I ended up not being able to go. Like I skipped that event. I did tweak my cab in training like two weeks before doing the same thing. So I was like, I'm good. Like I got to work on a ladder for a living and I can't afford to be out of work. So I'm good. I'm going to skip that. So as far as your job, I got a brief little, so the gym that you work at is, what, it's Albany Barbell Club, right?

No, Albany Strengths. All right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's, regardless. So, like, years and years ago, I was staying in Albany for work before I had found, like, a good gym to train at. And there are basically, like, two main ones to kind of pick from if you want to do barbell stuff, the one that he works at, and then a different one. And the Google reviews on the one that you were at are just fucking horrendous for, like, onliness. and what, like, it's so bad.

And it's got, like, an out-of-date website, which is a bunch of, like, buy my protein and, like, please buy my steroids is what it looks like on the website. Kind of like, so it's just like more of a bodybuilder, old school kind of vibe. And the other one was still a power lifting gym or whatever,

but it was just the two. So, like, I almost would have crossed past with you, but that one, the gym that you go to was kind of more in the city and I always stay a little more on the outskirts and went to the one in Latham. But it was just a funny full circle to where you've now do maintenance and are cleaning up that gym.

Have you know, noticed getting better Google reviews in the past couple years or so since you've kind of taken over the facilities there? Yeah, so the cleanliness, I'm going to say, has not changed all that much. And like that shit, not shit on the place. I love the grungy vibe to it.

It's very, I'm not going to say it's a west side gym, but it's kind of got that vibe to it. Like that, just old, no fringe, just down and dirty vibe to it. And I like to keep it that way. But it's just, it's an awesome place. Like, actually, if you go on the Google reviews, now you'll see a lot of people commenting

like there's nothing like this left. There's no, none of these old school gyms, old beat up ripped equipment. Like people just love the vibe. But I'm going to hijack. He said before about the website. If anybody's listening to that goes to that website, please don't go to the website.

It recently got hacked. So it's going to bring you to God knows what. They are working on a new one, but don't go to that website right now. That's good stuff. So yeah, go to Jimradar.com and just keep looking for it there and it'll show up one day. Well, once they get started, yes. One more thing to add.

I mean, you sound like you just sit around all day, right? That's all firefighters need a mess do. They just sit around, you know, and sleep and, right? Oh, no, no. We go to the grocery store and we shop on taxpayer dollars, too. I get what I think we do. You shop on my dollars, right? Yes.

Every time we go to the store, we get that. It's amazing. I hate people. or don't you have something better to do than go grocery jobs? Like, yeah, I know, I've got to eat for fucking 24 hours, dude. Let me get some food. That being said, we tried out the shop on duty. It's only if we absolutely have to.

One of the last ones, and I think this goes back to something we talked about earlier. Let's talk about your luck with vehicles. You have a lot of stories about that. You can share any or none. I'm assuming this is my brother. Yeah, there's at least four here. Oh, yeah. So we grew up, my dad has a shop.

So, like, we've only driven hoopties, shitboxes, whatever you want to call them. Like, beaters. Beaters, yeah, pick your name. So we've always driven cars like that. And, yeah, I've had horrific luck with vehicles. my first car was a Jeep Wrangler and within a few months of buying the thing,

it lost a cylinder. So I moved on to a, I think I had four TDI Jettas ranging from like 1993 to like 2003. Awesome cars. Four cylinder diesels, 50 miles a gallon, fantastic, can't beat them up, except me. I can blow them up pretty good. I had my ex-girlfriend crashed her car.

so then I pulled over to help her and she's crying and she wouldn't get out we're in a blind corner, she wouldn't go anywhere. Like we need to get out of this corner. And sure enough, right when I say that, a pickup truck comes around and turns my Jetta into a golf and puts, yeah, put the

trunk right in the back seat. My poor dog was in the front seat. So that car got totaled. Funny thing about that is the insurance adjuster. Yes, yeah, that's actually where I'm going with this. Dog was fine. The insurance adjuster was a family friend, and she absolutely loved our dog, Maggie. She was a Rottweiler.

So I knew she was coming to look at the car. So I took some bandages, wrapped up her paws, and I took some medical tape, and I put an X over her tail because Rott Warrers don't have tails. So she comes in and she breaks down crying. She's like, oh, my God, the poor dog put the cone on it from which she got fixed. And she goes, what's with the X? Like, oh, they had to amputate her tail. She's got, fuck you. that's really funny

and car after that I hit a big puddle fried all the electronics and then I had another Jetta after that that I ended up I think it ended up almost 390,000 miles on it I got my money's worth of that one

but that one had what I called a structural floor mat because it was like a Fred Finslow car the entire thing rotted out the bottom so I just screwed some deck screws down to seal the thing off to keep my feet from getting wet. Sold that car to my brother. And I think the week after, because I was getting on the fire department, like, I need a car that's not going to explode.

So I sold it to him. And I think the wheel fell off. It's like the week I sold it to. The literal wheels fell off. Like that's a phrase, but that's literal. That's wild. And it's funny that he actually brings the vehicle thing up because I don't think he knows about this. But like, obviously, I'm sitting in my truck right now.

I got a flat tire the other day. Change the tire. When I do that, I always check the brakes. I look under the brakes, I got a broken leaf spring. So I got to fix that now, too. Fun. I got two I want to hit on probably before we move on to any games.

Is there a good story about Germany and getting lost? Oh, yeah. Or anything Germany related, because I know you said you had a buddy from Germany, so it sounds like you spent some time there, so you might have some stories. Yeah, my roommate from college was a exchange student, and he lived with me for a year and he loved to hear so much so he actually came back for a second year

so he lived with him for two straight years and after he went away we went to Germany to go visit him and me and my other roommate Matt which is probably the one who submitted this and we went over there for two weeks and it happened to be on New Year's so we went out partying for New Year's

got an Uber from Jerome's house to go downtown and somebody who was in the Uber before us vomited. Yeah. I didn't fucking like getting clean up. The guy didn't know. Oh, that's shitty.

Right. And somebody spilled beer back there and there was vomit. So like the guy obviously goes, oh, it's you. Like no, dude. Like we got in here. It was like this. Because, no, no, you did it. You did it.

So we kind of fought back and forth. That's Uber Germany. Who cares about those ratings? That's got to be a different app probably. Exactly. We're in a different country. So when he stopped the car, we just ran. And so we ran away, start a cart drinking.

Again, a lot of these stories are not drinking. I am not a drinker anymore. Go to the fireworks show, and over there, they had the German people and then, like, migrants and stuff that they didn't get along, like not getting political by any means, but just the two groups didn't get along. They ended up shooting fireworks at each other. like hundreds and hundreds of people. It looked like a war zone.

So we're like, let's get the fuck out of here. So we go to a bar. And on our way to the bar, we realized that when they were shooting fireworks at each other, one of the fireworks hit the church. And the steeple caught on fire. So there's a ranging inferno, like, way high up in the air that the fire department can't stop. Like, well, that's cool. All right, let's go in the bar.

So we go in the bar, we end up losing our friend, Jerome, the guy that's from there. we did not find him for the rest of the night. We don't know where he went. And while we were just in there, we didn't have cell phones or we all had flip phones. So we had no maps, no nothing, didn't know where the fuck we were.

And all the police officers come in, like, we're evacuating the area. Now the gas station below the church is on fire and it's going to explode. So they evacuated the area. And we had another German friend, Sebastian, with us.

and during the evacuation, we lost him. So now we have no idea where we are. And I just, in the drunken stupor full of, we had beer mugs from every brewery we went to in our jackets. And we never lost them to our credit. We knew he lived near a water tower. So we saw the water tower on the other side of Dusseldorf, Germany. And we just kept walking that direction,

not knowing what neighborhoods were walking through or anything like that. It has no idea where we're going. Don't speak the language, so we can help us. And we think we're going to be good, and then we hit the Autobahn. Oh, now what?

There's these big, giant walls, and we can't cross the Autobahn. It's like 10 lanes. Oh, fuck it. We'll play Frogger. We'll cross the Autobahn. Oh, my God. So we crawl over the fence,

which is really high. And then once we jump down, there's no turning back. And then we realized we're not the only person who had this idea. There was a drunk Russian dude, like, literally playing, like, what's the game where to dodge the cars? Not Frogger. Yeah.

There's a name for it. Chicken, yeah. There's playing chicken with the cars on the Autobahn. So we, like, we kind of grab him and drag him off the road. And he kind of fought us to drag him off the road. And we get him to the other side. That's when we realize he speaks Russian, not a word of English. I'm like, just get off the highway.

And he sprinted back in the highway. We never saw him again. hopefully he's alive. Maybe. 50, 50. And then after that, we stupored our way all the way back to the house.

And thankfully, Jerome was there to let us in. And I made it out of the country. Wow. Jeez. So you did end up crossing the auto bond then? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that's where we dragged the last guy out of. Yeah, I was terrified. I was a horrible, horrible drunken decision. Yeah, don't do that again. Oh, no, God, don't. I mean, we'll be

job security, I guess. I said more people did stuff like that for you, but you don't want that. Yeah, for real. I got at least one more. It was actually a decent amount of good stuff still left, but essentially do you have any

EMS poop adjacent stories or anything like that? Someone had submitted a couple things about a lift assist with poo. There's an endless supply of poop stories when you work in this line of work. Anything. Is there that one that stands out above and beyond that is actually funny and not just gross? Yeah. My personal favorite one was when I was a paramedic intern, we went to a school for people with, like, profound disabilities, and they have, like, one of those padded rooms for when the kids freak out. And they were telling us, oh, the kid, he's freaking out. He's in the room, blah, blah, blah.

So we walked to the room, and it's got, like, one of those little itty-bitty, like, prison windows, like, shatterproof glass on it. And it's smeared brown with a smiley face drawn in the poop. Poor guy. That's rough. And my preceptor, who's basically the one teaching you to be a paramedic, she goes, all right,

go get him intern. And she opens a door and this kid is sitting butt naked. He took all his poop, smeared himself in it, and wrote, fuck you on the wall. And it was like a horror movie.

This is like the shit you see in documentaries that you think is fake, but that's, that's wild. that people live like that. He was sitting Indian style and it was like Silence of Lamb.

He goes, hello, how are you in like the creepiest way possible? Hello, Cleary. That's what it felt like. We just wrapped him in a blanket

and brought him. The kid was fine, but it was, I don't think I could top that one. The smiley face is pretty like, that's, a shit smiley face is wild to me. I like the contrast

of the smiley face on the door and the fuck you on the wall. That is actually good. anything jumping out at you before we move into some games joy no i'm ready for games all right uh big joe lisa f mk this is a game we like to play i'm going to hit you with some quentin tarantino movies um you get f one mary one kill one ready yep once upon time oh wood okay reservoir dogs kill bill so once upon a time in hollywood reservoir dogs kill bill f mk so the the mary is is an extremely easy decision for me

because Reservoir Dogs is my favorite movie of all time. So we're going to marry Reservoir Dogs. Hill Bill, I'm going to have to F. And then I guess we're going to Hill once a fun time in Hollywood. Yeah, it's kind of the outlier being a little different, isn't it?

Yeah, you almost forget that one's actually Tarantino movie. Not a bad movie, but... No, not at all. I don't think there's one of his I don't like. I do like the dog food can right to the face is my favorite

Okay, moving on to Mount Rushmore Reading everybody's input here, I really like this one Top Firehouse Pranks Hmm Air House pranks Um Yeah, there's a lot of those

Um Well, there's the water bucket is always a classic there's a bench that sits outside the firehouse and you always lure somebody to sit on the bench because that's where we go to just hang out because it's a small station and right above it's the window for the gym so you can kind of guess where that's going to go

you're going to have to put the water buck on there dump it on the new guy um so we got we currently actually are using plate snacks for a right right now you find an embarrassing picture of a guy and you go to plate snack

make the sticker, put it all over the firehouse. That one I can't take credit for. That's actually not me, but I'm going to put that one up there because it fits this podcast. Did you use code unpaid? I didn't do it, so I don't think they did. Oh, that's very funny. That is why they went to play snacks, though, or any sticker place, but that's still pretty funny. So they left a stack of them in the firehouse, and they're like,

hey, why don't you just put these anywhere you want, just kind of mess with the other guy. And the one, the stickers that they made are circular. the one I put for him was perfectly fit inside a jug of protein. So I put it underneath his lid and protein. So when he opens, he sees that embarrassing picture of himself. Yeah.

Is the picture something you're really? Like, I don't want to, you know, if it's not something you get in trouble sharing too much intimate detail, but is it's, is it funny, like what the actual image is?

By looking at it, it's funny, but by tech, by speaking, it's not, it's just a picture of him in the pool with the dolphin. It's just,

he's got a goofy look on his face. Gotcha. Like, it's benign. is he pissed off about it at this point or does he still chuckle? He doesn't know who did it so he's still kind of better. That's always makes it better for everyone else though because then it's like it almost is a group effort that people are also fucking with him. Right.

The one guy made the sticker he's like, hey, disperses wherever you want. Just hide them places he'll find them. That's really funny. But my personal favorite for the Matt Rushmore is the bouncy balls. You can go on Amazon and order a thousand bouncy balls for like $5. And there's YouTube videos that are pretty easy on how to break like master locks or

combination locks. It's very easy to do. So you take a bed sheet, open up a guy's locker, make a hammock with some duct tape inside the locker, and he needs to get in there. So he's got to open up the hammock. He doesn't know what's in it when he opens it. A thousand bouncy balls come out. Like the rubber ones?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's so harmless, but so funny. I love it. Yeah. and then what's it there's four I'm out

Rushmore right yeah same prank but do it with eggs oh that's expensive yeah you just wait for him

to expire it I guess but yeah that one was that one was done to me our fire ice you throw a lot

of eggs but that I would like that like I would like I just too tired and you get

fucked with like it's I would have a hard time not being a dick like you don't fuck with someone

when they're tired and exhausted and I don't know, but I guess it's the, you guys do it to kind of just keep, keep the levity high since you're dealing with like life and death situations, so I get it. But once you figure out the trick to cleaning up eggs,

it's actually a lot of fun. If you don't know how to clean up an egg, it's a nightmare. If you take a dust pan and just scoop it really fast, the whole thing comes up in one piece, which makes life a lot easier. So now you can make a fuck with eggs with people.

The more you know. We're the Egg Podcast. All right. good deal I'm enjoying all this Big Joe are you familiar with unpaid or underrated I am

Would you like to explain it to you your mother Who might be listening She is listening I believe So unpaid Nobody wants to be unpaid So unpaid is bad And underrated is good

Beautiful, perfect Unpaid or underrated Lacrosse lacrosse is horribly unpaid I played one game ever because all my roommates in college played and this actually comes into a poop story as well

because I got I got knocked out and shit myself I never played across to you I guess then yes yes yes very skinny cross country Joe yep no I didn't get hit by

I got hit by a ball. So I crossed the goal when somebody shot and it hit me the back of the head right below the helmet. That's not funny. That's less funny. That's like, that's like fucking, yeah, that's,

yeah, that's bad. That's concussion syndrome there. Yeah, but when you're in college, you don't think about those things and your buddy to shit himself. It's hilarious. Unpaid or underrated country music.

Also unpaid. I, I don't know how you listen to country music when you work out because I can't get into it. My buddy I work with, my boss, his dad's a bluegrass singer. So he's actually kind of tricking me into like in country. Turns out, I just don't like Nashville country. He showed me some stuff out of Texas and stuff that I'm like I actually starting to like.

Because like the old like the 90 shit and the 80 shit, I like that. It's just it's the new stuff. You can only like, it's almost like a rest. it's like a recipe to write these songs. They all sound the same. I just can't stand it. That's fair. I can agree with that.

All right. Unpaid or underrated. Snap in a leverboat. Not a fan. I don't know why. It just reminds me of like every douchebag on Instagram. Apologies to anybody who snaps a lever belt. I will continue.

It just makes you think of the guys with the elaborate deadlift setups where it's like a dance for 30. seconds and then they lift it like a range of motion of like three inches and then you get the the cunty little click it just drives me nuts oh well i don't i mean mine is usually like aggressive and then gets thrown across the room if it's like a celebratory no it's it's the uh it's the sassy i'm better than you little finger flick that's the one yeah i supposed to do that sometimes but it's more just it's got to get it off somehow that that being said like full disclosure i've never used a lever belt in my life.

No, well then fuck you. Your opinion doesn't count. Invalid opinion. Like, duh, you can't have an opinion about something. Uh, shit. Where'd my nose? Do you use a belt? I do.

Yes. What kind? Yeah, just. Uh, just a single prong pioneer cut. And now, obviously, I'm dabbling in the double belt, soft belt, strong man stuff. That belt kiss is a, that's a new learning curve going into strong man. All the bruises you get in your belly. Yeah.

Yes, jeez. And your chin. Getting chin checked on overhead press. sucks. Yeah, I was actually just talking to Dan, Big Dan, this week about that. Oh, yeah. You keep getting yourself.

I thought of that. Newly, it's a new thing. I never, like doing axle cleanses. I never chin check myself. And now I'm doing it every single time. I'm going to lose a tooth if I keep doing this.

You're not in the clean, not the press. I'm sorry, on the press, the press. Okay, because I'm like, yeah. If you're hitting yourself in the chin on the clean, you're not lifting heavy. enough. Clearly.

I think I've, I think I've basically done it once or twice on any, every different object and implement I have. But like, once you do it a couple times or even once, like usually you'll learn to fucking get that head out of the way. Is because you think you're so aggressively trying to, are you trying to push your head through too early or you're not getting your head out of the way?

Like, I'm trying to envision how you're, like, are you already pushing? That's the crazy thing. I'm, I'm not even looking forward. I'm looking up at this point just to like get my chin out of the way. Yeah. And it. right I don't know

it's you have to it's your bar path then I guess more than your yeah I'm pushing it backwards have you guys have you guys ever

hit your clavicle like yeah you bring it up and down again and you just hit right there and you're like ah

like it just messes up your lift god did that last week that sucked especially if you do it with a like an aggressive Olympic bar

and it's got the gnarling so it cuts you at the same time too oh yeah unpaid or underrated.

What do I have? I just had it. Where to go? Fuck. I would I want to ask. God damn it. Oh, having two first names. Also unpaid.

Actually, everything I'm asking you is unpaid, but it's not strategic. It's just the ones I wanted to talk about. Because of the fun ones. Actually, we'll make that one underrated because it leads to a lot of comedy. So we'll make that one underrated, actually.

My, what's that? Nope, go ahead. All right. Where that story comes from, because I submitted that one. My very first day on the ambulance, when I started working on a commercial ambulance, so commercial ambulance doesn't just do 911. They do interfacilility stuff. And we had to do a female psych transport from a institution to wherever.

And you need a female EMT to do that. It was my first day. They put my name is Lisa Joseph on the roster. we drive two hours to this place and the guy goes, he goes, where's the girl? Like, what girl? Like, I'm brand new. I don't know this.

You need a girl. Like, oh, I'm Lisa, by the way. That sucks. That's really funny, but that does suck. Also, same reason that I got picked last for baseball because they put me on the softball team. That's just a family name then. So that's like, so like you have like siblings and you're like everyone on your dad's

dealt with that like having Lisa is their last name. So my dad has it worse. My dad has it much worse. Uh-oh. My grandparents took that boy named Sue thing to a whole new level. Oh. Yeah. Feminine name did they give him.

They gave him Jody. So he's got two girls names. Oh, wow. That is, that is mean. Right. And I honestly, though, I think I know more male Jodys than female Jodys, but it's is such a interchangeable name that like like but when you combine it with a female ass name yeah Lisa it was something much longer I don't know what it was it was shortened at Ellis Island

oh Lisa okay yeah gotcha all right normally I only do three but I do have one more I want to ask because I was just I know the story but this one uh unpaid or unrated Titan kegs that tank guys suck you want to buy one yeah I should have bought the stone of steel before another one popped up but the guy in Rochester sold one and I was still on the fence about it but I used to get some atlas stones at some point. I can't drive it at $800.

God damn stone of steel. A Titan keg could actually be a good product if they didn't fuck it up like Titan always does. They made it big. Right. Because they wanted to fit a 45 pound plate. If you made it fit a 25 or a 35 made the right diameter of a keg, like somebody like me which the reason I bought it for is lack of space.

like that would be very appealing because I don't have to have multiple kegs and multiple sizes just throw a plate on there you'd be good to go that thing is so fucking big it's ridiculous by the way it's still a marketplace always ever mess with you about it ever I don't I mean I guess it's as an odd object it's still okay I guess but like I don't think it's I don't know how much of it's transferable like strength yes you're getting stronger if you use it sure but like you're not getting any technique necessarily because like it is little. lot of technique to kegs.

But, but, by, by using one that is, is it a third or a quarter? I mean, it's, it's a quarter bigger at least.

It's too much where you're not going to get any kind of formwork out of it. It's, yeah. It's absurd. Lapping that has to be impossible almost then. Because like, I have long arms. I struggle.

Yeah. Like, I couldn't lap it between like, not, not having massively long arms and having a belly. Like, that would be a motherfucker like my, like my,

like my, like my quads wouldn't be long enough to lap that fucking thing. The thing is so big that when I was training for Jamie's show, which is like, had a keg over head in a medley, when I pressed it over my head, I couldn't get it off of my head because the clearance between my head and the keg, it was still resting on my head even with my arms extended. That's what big the stupid thing is. Locking it out. It was still at your eye level or something.

So you'd be locked out, but the thing is still touching the top of your head. That's a dumb product. I don't appreciate they don't make that anymore but unlike fucking Bartos at least they were smart enough to make the goddamn loading pen not stupidly thick. What I might do is I might cut the thing apart

if nobody buys it and nobody's ever going to buy that because nobody's as stupid as me especially when you put it in Discord and guys say don't buy the fucking thing. I'm like, oh, I'm going to try it anyway. Did you only pay like 200 bucks for it? Yeah, and I was going to the guy anyway because I was buying his throwing sandbags and he offered the thing like, I fucking I'll try it.

horrible decision. I think I might cut the thing apart. He knew what he had. That's why he sold it to your time. Oh, yeah. Sorry, go ahead. Actually, that guy, I tried to get him to join crew because he had a sick home gym, and he had like every Masonomics flag and everything in there.

I'm like, hey, are you crew? He goes, what's crew? Like, a supporting member of Massonomics? He goes, oh, no, I just like the podcast and the meme, so I bought some of their shit. like you would fit he might be a CTF because there's a lot of guys there's a couple guys in Albany that I don't know that are CTFs but I don't know if they're crew or not

he was a downstate like Orange County same guy you got the log from or is that a different one I was a different guy also same region but that wraps up my my questions if Joey's got some stuff for you I'm sure all right unpaid or underrated and I want to hear this one

Credence Clearwater Revival I It is gonna piss me right off I don't know why that's in there Every song except grapevine Whoever put that in there I think they have it backwards I think they think I don't like them because I fucking love them

It's implied that you don't like them Well then put it in underrated Okay so it's underrated I'm just trying to think why it's in there. So yeah, very underrated. I love CCR. And I like putting them out of jukebox because they got long songs that you get your money's worth for. And it just always has good vibes.

Somebody must put that in there thinking I don't like them. They got it completely. What about the song specific grapevine? Because they were explicit about it being grapevine. But the way Joey and I interpret it is that you like grapevine. But maybe you hate grapevine. No, I do. That's why I'm very confused by this one.

That's a very bad submission. Then I'm confused also, Joe. That's okay. That's very interesting. We're used to it. Unpaid or underrated. Still sticking with music, the Dave Matthews band. Corrible.

Can't stand him. Not a fan at all. My boss, other boss, my former boss, huge fan. He even tried to drag. He's like, you got to see him live. All right, dude. I don't, I don't, I don't like.

That's what everybody says when you hate a band. Just see them live. Just see them live. This is just a longer version of a bad song. I don't like it. I also hate the Dave Matthew fan. I think it's the first time I've said that out loud on this podcast, but yeah,

I also hate those guys. Unpaid or underrated, this one means a lot to me. It's my last one. Being a girl dad. Being a girl dad is fucking awesome. You get to do things you never thought you'd enjoy. Hell, get my nails painted.

Awesome. Watching her smile do it. Just doing girls. early things. It's extremely underrated. And like, fuck, I thought about it today. Because, um,

so my dad will take my daughter shopping. And there's this lady at the supermarket that they go to that just like breaks into tears when she sees my daughter. And I thought, your daughter? She is four. Nice. Great age.

I just thought to myself, I'm like, yeah, yeah. My little girl is the cutest damn thing. She wraps me around her damn finger in a way that nobody else has. I have a son as well. He's six. And yeah, I'd go to the end of earth for him too. But like, there's just that one connection between me and my girl that is so different. And being a girl that is so different to be a boy.

thing I'm dreading with being a girl dad and is that is the daddy daughter dance because I know I am going to ball my goddamn eyes out. Jeez. I cry watching her dance to music videos right now where I'm just like oh, you're going to be such a dancer.

You're going to be this, you're going to be that. Like, yeah. She does gymnastics. Has done it since she was six months old and she's a little beast and it's just awesome watching her do things that absolutely terrify me. How old is she? She's five.

She's in kindergarten. Perfect. What's her name? I'm glad you asked that. Do you mind? I'm very glad you asked that. It's a Lisa. I've heard that my entire life.

I've heard that my entire life and I've heard Mona. I will never name my daughter Mona. Gosh, no. I will name my dog. My dog is Mona. Mm-hmm. Her name's Jody, named after her grandfather, which is hilarious to me. Spelled the same or like in...

No, no, different spelling. Yeah, that doesn't make sense. Yeah. That's incredible. My daughter is Saga. Saga? Yeah. Cute.

Yeah, it's, uh, I just realized that today, just the absolute difference. It is being a girl dad, so I wanted to add that. Um, I'm going to try to charge my phone here real quick. I just gotta take you guys off.

I'm going to see if these headphones will connect by Bluetooth. If not, I'm just going to do it by speaker. We have like five minutes left So we can do it We can do it just a thicker if we have to No worries And turn the volume

Or turn the brightness down if you need to To salvage some battery But Why he does that Let's see I think we covered most of everything good There was there was Still some good submissions we had here

I'm just trying to Oh I'll do my affiliates real quick actually I literally just do that earlier So barbell rescue Kim over there He's got all kinds of barbell Cleaning needs Some people come into crew and don't know how to clean the sleeves on their bars.

Jesus. Give the old Barb Bill Rescue a try. They work on nerling. They work on non-neurled shafts. They work on neural shafts. They work on the collars. They'll work on the sleeves. You know, you could still get a regular brush and do the sleeves and the collars if you want to.

But it's really good working on the shaft, but you don't have to have two if you don't want to because you can definitely just open it up if you need to and spread the taint a little bit and get right in there. So Bar Bar Bar Bar Bar Bar Bar Rescue, cut unpaid. Home GymCon, weird. That is coming up. The quicker that Lift Hardly gets here, the quicker Home GymCon gets here. Some days, I think it's still like December or January. And then I look up and it's literally going to be April in a couple of days. So getting very late in the season. So all these cool events are coming up this summer. So if you're on the fence still about Lift Hard Libisi or Home GymCon, you know, just get signed up. Liftherlyzi, you don't really have much chances. Don't want any competitions, but we can always use the help. But Home GymCon, Code unpaid. and apparel from the Stranco. Go buy some t-shirts from Grant and help put a little money in your own pocket by saving it.

That is our affiliates. Big Joe, you ready, buddy? Yep, got me here. Nice. Yeah, perfect. I'm glad that worked out. It was a good time killer. So we're at the portion now.

If you have anything you wanted to share for us, which I'm optimistic you do with your quality ad read. I have two questions each and then one for both of you. we're going to do some least fun most fun for each of you Joey least fun most fun your favorite thing in the world rocks

oh least fun the kisses the rock kisses you pick up a rock that you've never picked up before and you put it in your lap and you get your forearms under it and you end up with the worst damage

ever on your bar arms, but that sucked. I had to deal with those for weeks. I mean, not tron to level, where I got kissed on the top of the head and lost some hair. Yeah, that's pretty unpleasant.

Most fun is showing up to somewhere like the Stones of Strength with Rebecca that I got to experience for the first time. and somebody hands you a 240 pound rock and you look at it and go, yeah, I'm not picking that up, but you're literally standing with one of the strongest men

in your province. Laurie was there. She just made a pro strong man in Canada, and she's cheering you on. And you get that rock to your chest. I couldn't get it to my shoulder, but I stood up with that damn rock. Picking up rocks is so different

than picking up a barbell or an axle or a sandbag or something because they're just so different every time. Like every rock is so different. And it's like it's an attest to your strength and your ability to figure out how to pick up dumb, heavy things. Nice. Barbells are barbells. They're uniform strength.

They're the same on each side. It's the barbell does some of the work for you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But when you pick up a rock that weighs almost two times your own weight, there's no better feeling. There is seriously no better feeling. So that would be my most fun. Well, if you like lifting big, odd thing, that I can offer you a Titan keg. Unlikely to take that up. It's big enough.

You could sit, you could fit some fucking boulders inside of it. the god-dame well is so big on it. It is actually, it's literally, sell it to a village that needs a fucking well. It's the right size. All right. Peace. Yeah, buddy. This one's for you.

We got least fun, most fun. Lift parties at the no wine cellar. Oh, the most fun is just having that crew there. And it's wild. Like, I don't, you know, there could be 15 people. It could be 20 people. There could be two people. But just having someone in the gym, it's just fun.

Like it's, you know, there's a lot of negatives that come with it. But the most fun is just having that environment, having some buddies I might only see once or twice a year. Some people I see several times a year. But it's just like having people that, you know, at any point, like I want to, I'm cheering for like people to hit a heavy lift like 10 times throughout the night on some of the bigger ones. Like if it's only a couple people, it might not be that vibe. But like on the big ones that that fucking, hey, so and so is going to go for a rep PR. So and so is going to, you know, this is like a double PR. This is their single.

like this is a max. Anytime someone's hitting something heavy, like the whole room will stop and kind of like watch them for a second. Whereas I've had some vibes in the past where I've had like a, you know, it's like 10 years ago. I had some people killing themselves doing the heaviest lift ever. And then some like there's a group of three jackass in the corner talking about fucking Pokemon or something.

And I was just like this is this is not the vibe I want. So having that vibe is the most fun. There's just everyone when there's a big lift going on, having 10 people look at you and like all be invested. So that's for 100% most fun. Least fun. It's just the not, I can't read the line.

I don't care. I'm going to answer two things. The not knowing who's going to show up. And I used to obsess about that. I'd be like, hey, let me know if you're going to come, RSP, etc. Because I just wanted to kind of know how people are coming up. And then it gets in, like, someone says they come and then they don't come.

And then I just get a little like irritable about that. And it's just like not. So I've eliminated all animosity. So I'm just like, I don't care who comes or not. Like, I'm going to put it out on, I'm going to have a group chat with a bunch of much people want it. I'm going to put it in there. I know there's a handful of people that either aren't on Instagram or on Facebook, so I make an effort to text them directly. There's just a little checklist to do. And then everything else is look at my fucking stories. I literally

like Bukaki to my goddamn Instagram stories. You know when the fucking parties are show up or don't show up. It's up to you at this point. So, but historically, people telling me they'd show up and not showing up really got on my fucking nerves. But probably, you know, the most consistent still being least fun. It's just like, hey guys, we do me favor and put the plates like face out and everything and just like everything has a home people not putting it in the right home or everything has a way to go home and it doesn't go home the right way. So like I might spend the next month like pulling all the plates off a tree eventually to get them to where they're all the facing the way that I prefer them. So just putting the gym back together. But Stephanie would say the least fun is just how fucking loud it is because the whole house shakes for like four hours and it's very disturbing for my cats and my wife and I acknowledge that and I do apologize. But it's, you know, we've kind of reduced it to a couple times a year now, whereas before it was like once a month or once every two months. And just to kind of get the numbers up more, I'm just making it more scarce now. So maybe like three or four a year is kind of the goal.

I'm definitely guilty of putting all your plates back in the wrongs. I put all your pump plates on your iron plate tree, my bad. That's so good. You're good, brother. And that's just, I come, that's almost, that's more of a joking. Like, that's going to happen no matter what. That's just the whole people don't know where stuff goes. There's too many people here for me to, like, micromanage stuff,

and I don't want to be doing that when I'm trying to have my own fun lift. So I can kind of deal with that. But it's really mainly the people that say will show up and don't show up and don't let me know kind of thing. And then it's just like, motherfucker. Like, that's like not RCP into someone's birthday party or something. It gets not that serious, but also like, I don't know, don't be a douche. When I was there, didn't I like, go, Keith, where do I put this? Like, a hundred times to the point that it was annoying.

I really. Where does this go? Where does this go? do you want this here? Can I put this here? There was, I think I just recently I got to wear like, because I have a shit ton of change plates, but like somehow I managed to have like 70

fucking tens on one side of the gym and like two on the other. I'm exaggerating a little bit but I do have like 40 or 50 pairs or individual tens and like almost all of them were on like one side of the gym and there was like two on the other. I was like, how the fuck did this happen? But yeah, it's a good

question. Appreciate that. Uh, Joey. We got a least fun, most fun. Influencers. So least fun. Yeah, what kind of influencer? There's so many. There's so many. I've just heard you blatantly say you'd hate influencers all the time, so I wanted to give you one. I do. I, I, I, so the least fun thing about influencers is, is it when they ask you to follow them so they hit certain benchmark numbers? Yeah. I've done that, too.

Don't worry. I think they, God, like, I specifically dislike the influencers that try and act like they're important because of it. And that would be the number one thing I dislike. There's a guy I follow. His name is Daddy Snacks. His name is Jay. Him and I actually chat sometimes.

And he is the ultimate anti-eat. influencer. He is, uh, he sells popcorn. He sells curry popcorn. And, uh, his story is, uh, he asked an influencer to review his product and they were like, we want a thousand dollars for like a single post. And he was like, get fucked. My thing is I'm going to out influence you. And he did. He beat them by like a hundred thousand followers. And now his thing is he takes, down influencers who use their influencer fame to exploit

businesses. And he's so good at it. He's got some guy right now who pretended to be a lawyer in California to send him a cease and desist. The thing about California is it's illegal to pretend to be a lawyer.

So he's going to rip this dude to shreds. He made this influencer with a million followers go private. because he was just like, oh no, I figured you out. I love that shit. But he's still an influencer. Like, isn't he?

Isn't he at this point? So, oh, God. Most fun thing about influencers is you have the ability with your reach and with your following to do things. to show people the good things of the world, to show people the good things of all the things. But then you have the negative side, which is,

I'm important because of this. I'm going to give you misinformation. I'm going to give you false information. I'm going to stand in Costco with my shirt off and tell you not to eat chicken. Stupid shit like that that these guys do. And that's the stuff. that bothers me, but that's the stuff that gets attention, right?

So most fun is, yeah, most fun is having fun with your online presence, least fun is taking advantage of stupid people who believe your dumb shit when you just spout garbage nonsense. Like rice is bad, like rice is bad? And that's your take because you have a million followers and people buy it up. Oh, yeah. I could honestly, I could go off for an hour and I won't. But I love it.

I very much dislike the influencer culture that we live in right now. And let's go back to the Arnold. All these broccoli head young kids walking around filming themselves, you have 500 followers. You're not so important that you can step on Keith. Sorry, man. Sorry, man. So much.

You can't do that. You are not that important. How close to the G-Wagon was that? You're 20 years old. Of course you're ripped. Like, of course you're ripped. But you're just here screaming into a microphone on your phone. Anyway, I'm back.

I'm down. I'm good. I'm calm. Everything's fine. Maybe he's ripped because he doesn't like rice. That could be why he's ripped. Yeah. Well, he doesn't eat rice.

I don't eat bread. I don't eat fruit. I don't eat Costco chicken because it's made in plastic. You fucking moron. Anyway. Not to get political. It's the influencer voice that just cuts right through me. It's like nails out of chalkboard to me.

Oh my God. You guys. Get ready with me. The people that scream, I just, like, there's, there's, there's, like, people that just do the voiceover things, like, they're pick, like, like, shut the, even that's stupid. enough, but like the screaming. I just, I can't handle any real that's just someone's screaming.

Like, that's their whole persona. It's just them scream. But, and by screaming, I went into the night that the top of their lungs, you're just talking so loudly that it's borderline screaming. And I just want to reach to my phone and fucking punch the person in the face. Or their videos are literally, their videos are literally them doing this. Yeah, that's, that's fucking obnoxious. It's just them pointing at somebody else's thing.

Like, it's all rage bait at that point, too. No, not all of it. It's some of it, like, like, you really posted that on Instagram. Instagram? Like, yeah, I don't know. But they get, they get millions of followers doing it. I just like post my lifting. I don't even post my lifting anymore because like

leave me alone. It's so funny. Again, you referenced me saying like, oh, I want to get to 1,700 followers. That would be really fun for me. Because ultimately, I post once a week. Like my stories,

maybe twice a day, but I have like a single post a week. And I'm still confused as why anybody followed. And then you guys are like, you're an influencer. And I'm like, kind of.

But like, have you met the other influencers? That's what, again, I cannot talk enough about Jay from Daddy Snacks. He's a good guy. He's a gym bro too,

actually. He goes to the gym a lot. But yeah, they get ready with me, you guys, comes from him. Oh, nails on the shark.

Yeah, but he's doing it to make fun of them. Oh, yeah, yeah. A weird thing he did. Last thing. Sorry, you set me off. I'm still going. No, I love it.

He did this thing where in February he went to a, a black woman owned business in New York. Okay? And it was like February 1st. So February 2nd, he goes, Hey, everybody,

I lost 2,000 followers by going to this black woman owned business yesterday. So get ready with me to go to another black women owned business. And it's like the fucking best thing you could do to bother those type of people. In my opinion. So we lost Joe. He bailed. Well, if he keeps, we'll go ahead and if he comes back, we'll let him ask the last one.

But we'll do ahead and start. We can do our outro. And then if he comes back, it'll be just timed right. So you can find us on Instagram at Unpaid and Underrated Podcast. We have a website, UnpaidInferndapodcast.com. We have the U&U channel on the Masanomics Discord that has been very active. And we love seeing that. Big Joey, where are you at?

Joey underscore Malesco, M.L.E. Z.K.O. Don't follow me, apparently. He'll piss me off. And then I am Keith Honeycutt 73 on Instagram. More importantly, go follow my Orange Gym, the no wine seller. Until then, we're not going to say see you next Tuesday. just yet. We're going to give this a couple minutes. Let me see.

Texted me. I'm assuming his phone just died because he he's plugged it in, but when you're down to like 1% plugged in or not, it's still going to die. Yeah. Run in video full force. So he might be gone forever. You can follow Joe Lisa at Instagram. J. underscore

1799. He does not have a name on there. That's why he is impossible to find by searching Joe. Super frustrating. Frustrating. His name is crew. Maybe if you type in crew, it'll come up. even easier, but that's where you find Big Joe Lisa. I don't think he's going to come back tonight, so we'll see you next Tuesday. Hey, he's back.

Paul drop, sorry. You're good. We've already done all the outro, so if you just want to, you do your last question and we can kind of call it. All right. Yeah, actually, I do want to get to my last question. It's actually for both of you. I actually, I don't know the origin story of this podcast. I just want to hear how it started.

and like how it came to be and then like your favorite things about it. That's a lot. All right. Let's just make it the origin story then. No, no, no, no, you're good. No, you're good. So circa

spring, early, you know, like February-ish, 2023, early 2020. You know, I think I had thrown it in the Discord at one point because I was on the C-Team podcast and their podcast was briefly about Huck Finn podcast. and it was just podcast another podcast.

I commented, hey, we should do this, blah, blah, blah. Didn't really get any traction. Joey had brought it up a couple months later. Got a little bit more traction. We kind of all, there was like five or six of us that got on a Zoom call. We did it for, you know, we got on another.

Actually, this was back when we had, well, I think we did like Discord chats, like our Discord audio talks. So I think we might have done it in there a couple times, just shooting the shit. And then we actually had an organized Zoom call. We had another organized Zoom call. Joey and I kind of got,

uh, voluntold. It was us. And then, uh, Nate, you know, took the reins on all the back end stuff. And I've always said it. Well, this wouldn't exist without Nate because I neither Joey or I have the patience, the time or the skill set to, you know, run the back end stuff. I mean, I guess now almost that we could maybe take it over because it is all autumn, some of it's automated to some extent because, you know,

Nate didn't actually build that fireside website as I've come to learn. I've, uh, I've been messing around on the, that website too we can talk about that a little bit next week but yeah that's more or less what happened we didn't know what it was going to end up being we didn't know if we were just going to talk about the previous episode we didn't know if we were going to do like a couple guys on there was initial talks of just letting different crew interview different crew periodically but then that he came very clear that everyone wanted to be on it once but then no one was really into joey and i were really the only ones that kind of rose to the top of like i can do this every week

for indefinitely at this time where most people were like i don't have the time for that i'm on a different time zone people you know to having two two people on the time in the same time zone i think is crucial um and then i don't know i don't a lot of people could a lot of people could do a couple episodes but i don't know anyone in crew that'd be willing to do the sacrifice we've sacrificed to do this weekend and week out and you know it's been a journey it's been a fun journey i've enjoyed it i've gotten significantly better a lot of different individual things in my life from just talking to 140 crew for two hours apiece. Like my person, my, my, my, my human functional skills have leveled up from this podcast.

And I feel like I have an advantage. Like, I feel like I'm winning at the in person stuff because I already know 70% of these people by talking to them on the podcast. So it's just a leg up. And then I just feel like it's a gift. Like, I mean, we're sucking run and dick here. But like, I feel that this is a gift that we're giving to our community that like, I would love to be a listener. of this and not not like I would be the guy that would listen to this every week because I want to go to these things and meet these people and already know shit about them so I don't have that like

awkwardness that I can be like oh I heard you talk about this once so like I feel that we're making the podcast that I would love to listen. So different but same perspective, Keith's timeline is pretty good. He did he was the first one to bring it up. He was on the C-Team podcast and he's like, we could do this. We could make a podcast about a podcast. and then somebody else actually brought it up

and then I brought it up again and then I said specifically I messaged Tanner and when I'm done talking about this we're starting and I got him to create an event in Discord that was at this time of day at this time of whatever there's going to be a live chat

that we're doing this and that was when the crew cast channel first started because I was just done I was like we're gonna do this it's gonna go and we just went and there was about

eight or nine of us they're called the grandfathers I think we call them Founding Fathers and there was Mofo's 10 little Pigies too were there It does come down to that Yeah

Mofo did you just join this to show us your feet and he was like fuck my camera's on that was pretty funny. To spread and loving motherfiger. Yep.

And it went from there. And then it became, I think I was the one that suggested, well, why don't we interview crew, like they interview famous people.

That was a good one. Like, why don't we just do that? Because that was the time when they were still having guests every week. And it just, it just went from there and that's the format we've stuck to is their format i hate i don't hate to say

it but like i i've got to admit it we stole their format on how to interview people and then it just became so much easier because of nate he does not get enough credit and he hates he hates the credit because he is so he's so humble he's he's he's natus flowers once of a month he's got imposter syndrome, but like, honestly, it started with Keith messaging people being like, here's the questions you have to answer. Please send these to your friends. And it was so much work. Oh, I hated it so much. I was, I guess, I got to know other people's like, I mean, I wouldn't say it's a benefit, but like I got to know people's like specific audience for the first like six months. So then I was like on first name basis with like random people's wives because I had it like DM. But the hardest part

was like, like, hey, tell your person with a private account to look at their fucking message request. I had to send that to a thousand people a thousand times. The worst part was I was running the Instagram at the beginning. I created the Gmail. I created the Instagram. I did all of that. And you were doing it from your personal account. And then I think at the Live to Hard Live Easy,

I was like, yo, you want to just help me create content? And I handed it to you. And you were like, this is mine now. And you just went. And honestly, you've done amazing with it. So like I have zero complaints about that. But like, it was you. You're literally, like, messaging everybody.

And then Nate comes in, he's like, I think me or you were like, can we just make a Google Doc to make this easier? And then Nate goes, I got a whole website to make this easier. Well, we did. It had three iterations. Well, I almost four. It was like me, DM and people with just like generic, like hand typing it out every time. And then I just copy and paste it. Then I had a template that I could copy and paste.

But with Instagram, you can only have so many characters in a, in a, in a, single message and it's really hard to say what we need to say in one fucking like thing. So then I had to like, it was a double copy paste, which was a pain in the ass. Yeah. And then, um, so then Nate created a one that we had for a few months, maybe even a year that was, was okay. It was still kind of ass. And then what we have now, which is our standalone website basically, I think it, I think it's still,

I don't know. Nate, they can tell you next week, but it's literally, I, we, we, we, we enter the person's username, uh, their, their full name and Instagram. Instagram that we can tag and the date. And then that populates a link for me to share to that guest, which has like a two-page thing that people still don't fucking read because Joe didn't join our discord until yesterday. I'm ass. I can't read the idea. I can at least, I can at least, it's easier for me to say, hey, go fucking read that again because like everything you're asking me is in that rather than me having to like paragraph paragraph back and forth.

But like every single thing the guest needs. And I've been getting more, I don't know, blunt or like, Rue is not the right. I'm getting more firm with like, please read this thoroughly. Everything that you would need to, I think I say everything we need from you is in here because I may make it like their responsibility because you really do need to read it. Because there's like there's like six things you need to do to come on the podcast. They're not fucking hard. But sorry. And then to just round off your question because Keith answered and I'll answer.

I get, I'm the farthest technically because there's a border in between us. And crossing the border is becoming. increasingly difficult. Some people have success. Some people don't. I still get to talk to people that I want to talk to. I don't get to see you guys

as much as I did for the three years of the Arnold and Lipphard-Lavisi and Crew Falls that I got to attend. I don't get to do that right now. I have to wait a little bit until A, my finances line up and B, the border makes some sense. So I get to still

see all you guys. I still get to be a part of and even right now where lifting isn't a priority of mine because I'm injured, it's hard for me to imagine myself as a lifter when going to the gym physically hurts me. But I still get to be a part of you guys. And that is super awesome to me. So every day, every Thursday morning I wake up and I go, fuck, I'm so tired. I don't know if I can do this.

But come 645, I'm here and I've revved and I'm ready to go. because this is still one of the coolest parts of my week, is talking to people like you, Joe, that I've never met. And hopefully one day I will. I'm thrilled that you guys did it because I absolutely love this podcast. You're actually my number two on my Spotify warped second to those other guys. Love it. Tune in every week and getting to know guys.

I absolutely love what you guys do. And Nate, of course, Nate. And I will say the biggest, most recent change we did that might keep this going like indefinitely because it was getting to be a struggle like like my marriage has been pushed to the strain has been very strained like my wife goes to bed at like eight o'clock so when i start a podcast at 830 and go to 11 for fucking two and a half years yeah wasn't cool like i was in the shit house every fucking friday basically um so we switched to 7 p.m start and we're done i mean we're going along this it's 9 30 already so we got to get off here in a minute but uh yeah being able to

be wrapped up by 9 30 at the latest shout out to my new job honestly like shout out to my new job Hey, I'm Forklift certified now. I got a raise because of it. Like, everything's going amazing. And it was all just because I was so fucking sick of my own job. And I was like, I would still, honestly, and Keith disagrees, I would still rather do this on a Saturday afternoon than on a Thursday night. I would, we'd have to break up and do our own podcast.

I can't steal my wife's weekend. Yeah, I understand that. I can't do it. But a weeknight at 7 o'clock. and things have been going great. Monday through Thursday, I'm about it. But yeah, we love it. We love guests that I love hearing people telling me they listen.

Like, it is just, it is rewarding to have people actually listen to us. Like, this is so much of a time investment for us. So when I have someone in the Discord asked me a question about, like, a podcast we did three years ago, like, that's pretty cool. Yeah. Because that just shows that we're like, we're, I don't know, the evolution is we're, our listeners aren't dying out.

we're actually getting new listeners. It's kind of cool. Yeah. And hearing Tanner actually like start, oh, I got a thumbtack in the thumb. How that happened at my desk? I don't know.

I don't know. I'm sorry, thumb tech in the big, big toe. He hasn't said that, but he does make a point to say, if you're active in the community, you have a chance to get on unpaid underrated.

And they'll like do, like, he's, I think he sees the value. I don't know that we're doing anything to help his podcast or his revenue, but we're not hurting it. And if anything,

we have to be helping. You can't tell me that we haven't made up to, you know, dozens of people, being part of this community, feel more comfortable to go to in-person stuff, which means they're spending money to go through stuff. No, there's very good way to work that. It's no less than dozens of people that have been motivated because they've told, I'm not pulling that number of there. Like, people have told us that for the last couple years that, like, this podcast helps

them go do stuff in person, this podcast, meeting us on this podcast. You know what? even give Rizza, like, her dues on that one. Because the Rizzo was like, I'm so nervous. I don't know what to do. And at the end of it, she mess with me. She's like, this was so much fun. Like, I, I sincerely enjoyed being on here.

And like, yes. And people want to hear from you. Like, that's really, thank you. Like, we may not be contributing revenue. We may not have anything, but somebody joins crew. And then they hear about unpaid and underrated. And they start listening. And they go, oh, like, there's,

massonomics and then there's these guys that just make us the focus. Fantastic. Anyway, this is all stuff for next week. The only failure that we've had so far because I don't think Tommy's ever listened to a full episode. I don't think Tommy's... I don't even know if

Tommy's subscribed with our podcast on any of his platforms. I love Tommy, but like, and I get it. We're not his cup of tea, I guess. It's sad. That's just a lot. But Tommy's busy listening to like watching car talk YouTube videos and stuff and

doesn't have time for crew. I don't know. History channel. Yeah. He's a big, he's a big history buff. That's fair. Big history guy.

All right, Joe, we're rounding this out. So we already did our posts. This was technically, unless Nate edits is this, this was all post show. So we're good to go.

Anything, closing remarks, anything we didn't hear about, anything that we need to know about, about Mr. Joe Lisa. I think we, I think we nailed it all.

And thank you for putting up with my technical disabilities. Do you have any, do you have any callouts, Adam you want to throw down the gauntlet with anything you want to say to give him shit or Yeah, get on Instagram so you can talk

to us more fucker. Tell him to wash his fucking knee sleeves too. Yeah, that too. Wash ya ass. All right, boys. See you next Tuesday. Good night. Also, Morgan heard me ranting about

influencers and she texted me, take a deep breath and relax. I got pretty amped. I had to do an update and as I'm logging in, It's like new AI features. And I'm like seriously like fuck off with that. Like I'm so I don't take notes and upgrade them with AI. I did use.

I did use AI. It was really helpful the other day. There was a movie that I, there's like random thoughts that I get of like, there's this book that I read in elementary school that I want to find partially because I want to late, I want to log it on good reads and maybe read it again. But it could have honestly been a short story.

And I've like, I've Googled the premise like 30 times and I've just never been able to find it. And then so like that, that that, AI still hasn't helped me find that, but there was like two movies in the past like month or so where like I've Googled the description multiple times and I've like thrown it in like a Reddit group chat and never got any like concise information. And then AI like instantly gave me the answer to both movies. And I was like, this is awesome. Like I don't think either movies or anything I really need to watch again or care about, but it's just like this one movie that I'm like, I vividly remember this scene.

And I'm like, does this real or did I make this up? And then like I couldn't find it for 20 years. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, and I'm going to, I'm going to stream it at some point this weekend, maybe just to try to remember it and see if it's like the memories that I have. So counterpoint, I asked AI, how often does unpaid and underrated talk about wrestling? And no, it said, based on what it can figure out, we've talked about wrestling five to seven times. Well, it's because it's only pulling that. It's only pulling it from Nate's show description. So that would track.

Right. Yeah. Like it's not. Wrong again, AI. That's all I said. You probably have to have like the paid version and you could link it to the to the. Yeah. And then maybe.

But that's like a billion words. Like it's got to be. But it's a large language model. It's not a small language model. Figure it out AI or fucking plug off. For Nate, include this in a pre-show. I know you haven't been, you've been blipping too much to have pre-shows lately.

But I am very curious how many words like. like that should be like a documentate that should be a findable answer if someone goes and like I don't even know if you could like you know link the transcript and be like how many words have been spoken even if it's an average like that way you know because it showed us the other day how many hours we've been on and there's got to be some kind of just you know algebra equation to be like all right the average this is probably how many I'd be curious if it's like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands or if it's like a million it's like I don't know it's interesting food for thought there

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