Unpaid And Underrated - 151 : State of the Crünion

Episode Date: March 31, 2026

This week Joey, Keith, and Nate get together to talk about what has been going on lately in their lives and in the crünion. The dive right into great topics like getting stains on their shirts, tech support, affilate codes, Gym Radar, and marbles. Links Ü&Ü Hoodie Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab Get Your Own Keith Head Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast Our Guest On Instagram @natee561 Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar @joey_mleczko Special Guest: Big Nate.

And welcome back to episode 102 of the unpaid and underrated podcast, a podcast by crew for crew. I'm one of your host, Big Keith, joined as always here by Big Joey. Hello. And yeah, this is us. This is just going to be a shoot the breeze episode, not too much lined up. We might get joined by a little silly goose here in a little bit. But for the most part, me and Joey, just kind of doing our normal thing, but not having a bunch of stuff to focus on other than just general topics. So, you know, we'll kind of go through and do our regular.

bit and, you know, try to give you guys an entertaining Tuesday morning. But as far as basic intro, just got a Waterloo this week, nothing special. I've got a Miller Light. Because, uh, you've had a Miller Light in a while. Yeah, I'm going cheap. It's just the point now. I haven't had a Miller Light. That's like, sometimes you just think, like, it's the whole, uh, you don't miss a memory,

you miss a time. Like, I think I drank Miller Light, like a lot. I mean, bleep, bleep, bleep, but I didn't drink beer in high school, but I drink of Miller Light in high school. So it was like, uh, that was like my preferred beer there once I graduated from Bush Light, I think. Um, but yeah, I can like, I can like when I think of Miller, because I don't think I drank Miller Light as an adult much because I had already like either didn't drink for a long period of time. And then I switched to make altru. So like when I think of Miller Light, I think of like, like like, like 17 to like 19 kind of. So just like instantly just go back to that like, I'm just

like remembering what I was in that age and who I was at that age and just like taste that cold beer at the parties and stuff. So. Well, I do like call it. Miller lift just because obviously the logo but yeah it was just on sale and cheap and I wanted a beer I guess we should tell everybody we're twinning right now we are we are twining it up in the twins with the massonomics black and white logo t-shirt that just came out last drop that was that was not on purpose I specifically just what I was like I saw the shirt was like that's a comfortable shirt I want it yeah it does have a stain from work though I got some Bondo on it I'm pissed.

At least it's black. I'm struggling now. I've got my U and you shirt has a stain. I can't get out of it. And I have like stain stick that who's, we need big stain remover to help sponsor the podcast because I can't. Like, is there a,

what's the, what's better than just sitting it and stained stick and letting it soak for a minute? Like, do I get in there with a scrubby and scrub it? Do I just, with the bondo on this, I've just been nailed. Well,

I'm just like scratching it. I just have food grease stains as much of mine is. Well, you know what? I think maybe, um, you know, there might be an opportunity to replace that shirt in the future. Who knows?

Yeah. Yeah. Well, yes, but also I have $1,000 invested into shirts that probably all have stains on. I'd like to be able to, because it's like the deadlifter shirt, my U and you shirt. It's all like there's like two or three shirts. But yes, the U and you shirt, it would be nice to see if there's an upgrade in the future for those. Specifically, I also get covered in stains, but because of the beard and the mustache, right? Like, it's impossible for me to eat soup.

so Morgan makes this incredible incredible baked potato or loaded potato soup. It's like my favorite like she'll fry bacon, take the bacon out and then cook the soup in the bacon grease and then crumble up the bacon and add it after. It's the best.

I'll be damned if I don't wear that for days. It is my favorite thing but then yeah, I'm just covered in soup from beard to belly button forever and ever. I was um, I shaved my my neck this morning, I was there this morning or last night.

And I hadn't, I guess I didn't notice how, like, how long it had gone since I trimmed my actual, like, my underbeard, if you will. And it makes such a world of difference just with the, like, your beard's so long, you don't see your neck no matter what. But like, my beer is only like an inch long, maybe two inches long, whatever. So like my, it's very visible if I have like neck hair down to my, my, you know, shirt line or not. Yeah.

So when I, I guess it's such a rewarding, like, uh, instant visual. results when I, you know, when I'm, when I'm done trimming the neck up with just the clippers and I'm like, oh, or well, the beard trimmer that is. And I'm like, oh, I actually like have a neck again and I just, oh, I actually like have a neck again. And I just, like, oh, I'm like, I just those little, little things in life that is. And I'm like, oh, I don't know. It's just those little, little things in life that. Where are you on ear hair? I, I, I loathe hair. So not, I don't know my, so like ear lobe hair is what I'm like, like, I don't have like inner ear hair. Like I've never tried to. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get. I. hair from inside my lobe. I get it right on the inside, like, where the, the ear meets the lobe. And they're like whiskers. It'll be like one of those things. I'll go to scratch my ear. And then I'll go, oh, no, I can feel that. Like, my whole head, like, turns towards it.

So I've got to take a nose hair trimmer, which also, again, once you get 40, get used to it, young crew, if you're listening. Yeah, I have to take it and, like, trim down the ear hair. What a nightmare. I, um, I've always kind of kept the peach fuzz, try to keep the peach fuzz off of my hair, but I think I've gotten better at it over time. For some reason, I just have like impulsive, like, you know, ticks and stuff sometimes. So I know I shouldn't be doing something. And then I do it. And I'm like, oh, fuck, that just made it so much worse. I remember I had like a long hair on my ear the night

before my wedding, like, circa 2008. And like, I don't even think I had an electric tremor at all back then. Everything was just like a razor. So I take my beard trimmer. Like my, my, sorry, my actual like, my my my was probably would have been a noralco mock three or some bullshit oh no i'm just i'm just i'm just gonna get this one little hair and i have taken a fucking chunk out of the top of my earlobe the night before my wedding and like i have like this big bloody like it bled for like two hours like i i vividly remember like just being like in the apartment alone uh going like why my ear won't stop bleeding this is so fucked up and then i i bet if i zoom in my wedding pictures i have like a black or like a like a dark red scab on my earlobe and never again have I ever taken a razor to my ear, but I will use my

beard trimmer on my ear lobes like once a month or something. But I've never had an inner ear it's just all like it's just essentially peach fuzz like around the perimeter of the lobe. No, I get I get them. They're like long, like I said, they're like whiskers. Like you can feel them and like it makes your whole head move that way. It's a nightmare. But one thing as far as like getting like, now they're on the topic of like just being old dudes. Man, do you get like, so my diet restrictions have changed over the years of like, what I can tolerate and what I can't most recently. And part of this, too, is I don't, well, I guess I'll say what it is first and then

I'll do my follow-up is, um, because I'm already talking over myself. I'm literally talking over myself and interrupting myself. That's how, how my story is going. Yeah, hold on. Shut up, Keith. I got to do this. So, so onions, like raw onions, man. I cannot do raw onions anymore.

I've eaten raw onions on hot dogs, hamburgers, like just everything for years, no issue whatsoever. as of late, man, you give me raw onions. I'm having some toilet issues, and it's just not good. But also, like, my wife has the same thing, and she's, like, fighting off, like, different, she, we think basically has been diagnosed with, uh, Cbo, which means she has a lot of different restrictions in her diet now. But she doesn't eat raw onions, which I don't even know if it's part of the Cbo thing or not, but nonetheless, like, she won't eat raw onions. So part of it is, like, do you think you just get that sympathetic, um, sickness because your spouse has it kind of thing? Or am I, is it just, or is it just a coincidence that I also now am raw onion intolerance? Or have I just been that my whole life and the shit just didn't bother me as much until I'm older kind of thing?

Like, I don't know. Food for thought. Could be, it could be any of those. Just not raw onion food. Because don't eat that. It could be like, because she can't have them, you can't, you don't have them as often. And then you lost your ability to, to process them. Like, that could be a thing.

Yeah. It could also just be like your stomach was just like, yeah, I'm done with this shit. And like just as you got older was like, I'm not processing this, get it out. I got that way with like really high saturated fat probably towards 37 or 38. So particularly when I was working at Costco, which I'm not anymore, if I didn't bring a lunch, I would go get the putine. Because the putine's 1,200 calories. It would get me through the day for my calories. an eight-hour shift, eat once, it would get me through, and I would eat half, maybe three-quarters.

And by the time I finished it and then walked back to my workstation, I would have to run in the bathroom. Like, just the fats in that would immediately not process through my body. And I would just have to run. And I'm not going to leave it on the kitchen counter like some people. Bathroom counter, yeah. Speaking of that, he's here, by the way. Hey, welcome big Nathan.

Hi, welcome to the unpaid and underrated podcast. This is a podcast by crew, for crew. I apologize for being late. I was being a good friend. We recently had a friend. They have five children in their house, and they just had a baby, and we took them dinner, and I'm sprinting home, and all the kids were playing outside,

and now my wife's bathing all of our children alone. But I'm here for you guys, the listeners. Welcome back to unpaid and underrated, a podcast by crew, for crew, relentlessly late by the crew. I'm your host, Nathan Eckberg, joined tonight by Onion Keith and Poutine Joey. Keith, what are you drinking? Oh, wait, did you guys already start? Yeah, we did all that.

Even if we did, it doesn't matter, because you're going to consider all that pre-show and just cut it out, I'm sure. That would be really funny. Before Nathan, nothing matters. You know what does matter, Keith? You know what does matter? Horns of the chat. We got horns.

We got the horns. We can make him a little bit louder, a little bit louder. Anytime anyone asked me about Nate, they always tell him he's warning. Oh, geez. See, I would have made a joke about him sprinting home. Yeah, the last time he told that story. I did offer, because all the kids were playing and all this, and I was like, if you guys have a bike, I could just bike home real quick.

Like, that's fine with me and you guys just stay here, but I got to get out of here. And they're like, oh, remember us when you're famous? And I was like, oh, this podcast is huge. So, yeah, I'll remember you guys. And I almost felt bad because Nate was like, hey, can we push it a half hour? I have this really family important thing. We're just like, Joe and I are both just kind of like, we're just going to start at seven because we got to get up early. We're good.

It's like you can, we'll let you join in. I don't know. We're getting better at not letting people dictate our schedule. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to take care of the, you know, the host first. Yeah, sure. You know, I've always said that. Keith, I did want to notate that my dad also can't do raw onions.

so. Oh, good deal. Tim McPurrig. He must have got it from him probably. He's big no raw. We're a family, so that makes sense. Big no onions guy, yep. Yeah, big no raw onions.

Me, however, I love onions. Oh, same. Oh, yeah, I'll crush them. But should I probably not? No. Should anyone? Yeah, dude. Mm, onions.

So what, what you guys been doing, huh? Huh? What's up? What's up? We talked about being old. Ooh, can't relate. Sorry. That's why you guys have to report so stinking early.

Hey, I was up until midnight last night talking to the boys, the sisters. Yeah. It was, so this is, you know, when this comes out, you would have already listened to the Mastonomics episode. But last night was when Nate was on their podcast. I listened to the pre-show and a good bit of the show right up until they got to the, I've been usually cutting off on the live right when they get to the gym tour. Because it's just kind of like the good spot. Tommy's going to kick you off in a minute anyway. And I'm just like, well, I'd rather watch the gym tour part.

part like on YouTube or something, so I usually cut it off then. And I'm curious to how late, that was like 1030, 1045, how long after the gym towards you get on? Brother, you guys know, unpaid and underrated listeners know Nathan loves to yap. And brother, I yapped my heart out. Good. We went hard in the paint, and we didn't even cover everything we should have. So it came out.

But yeah, make sure you listen to that. If you're listening to this and you don't know what the Masanomics podcast is, really shocked glad you're here but I was also I was also on that podcast I'll be fucking surprised yeah so you go over there

take a listen and talked about the the development of Jim Radar and I put the boys in some awkward situations I don't think I've ever heard of it Jim Radar oh what are we doing here do we want to talk about do we want to dive right in is this our title topic

uh it should probably be light on let's say of Jim Radar for filler if we run out of other stuff since the whole other. Oh, okay. It's just filler to you. I see. Okay.

The guy spent the last three months only solely focused on Jim Radar. I get it. I get it. I get it. But do our listeners want to listen to the same podcast twice? Probably not. That's fair. So what did you not get to on the Massonomics podcast?

Think about that throughout the course of this. And then we'll circle back to Jim Radar once you're like, oh, I didn't talk about that. This is that one thing I do want to talk about. Wow. Because we do have like 20 other topics. but Keith, I do like that you consider me not a professional and that I haven't already considered those things. But yeah, yeah, I'm just here to hang out, guys. So wherever we go, wherever the wind takes us, I'm here for it.

The fun part about last night a little behind the curtain is I realized like halfway through the day that their podcast is a video podcast that is also a public video podcast. And that I had to take into consideration what my existence was on said. And that really threw me off. And just like making sure I wasn't doing anything stupid while we were recording was very difficult. Was it a dryer line? No, everything was off. But just like realizing I was like, oh, my boat, like I got to think about what my background is because my like basement is disgusting. I can't just like show that.

So usually use a, usually use a wallpaper of my head. So hopefully didn't, I'm assuming you're used to the one you can now, which is your, no, yeah, I'm using this. I'm using my, my home gym because I felt like that was relevant.

I forgot about the Keith Ed one. I should have used that. I forgot I did that. There's enough of those flowed. Yeah, but, uh, yeah, that was, that was the one moment where I was like, got real nervous for a second of just like, oh, no, my face is going to be on the internet on,

YouTube and that's... I never showed you that, Nate. Prepared for that. Look at that. Hello Apple Intelligence. I'm certified in Apple Intelligence. Oh, yeah. Oh, good.

Because that basically didn't even exist. Yeah. Yeah. Thank gosh. Well, Nate needed... Oh, he froze. How I broke my phone. Oh, we want to go into tech support?

Oh, that was just more of the ironic. You were the Apple tech support this week, and I was appreciative. Okay, can we tell this story? Because it's ultimately the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I don't, but like no, there's no way I physically removed all four apps for. Yeah, don't, don't ruin it because for people that listened, I was trying to troubleshoot a little bit with him on the podcast because I, and then he sent me a screenshot the next morning.

And I'm like, yeah, that's a privacy thing. It's got to be. Like, there's no way that there's a black block over your, what do we call that? the app doc where like your most use apps go at the bottom. I was like, there's no way. You somehow put a setting to block those from you. And he's like, nope, nope, I tried this, I tried that. And then I was like, just do a settings reset. That's the easiest way to fix it. And Nate's like, no, that's dumb. So I'm at work and I get a face time. Use those words.

I should have. And I get a FaceTime call from these two. So I join it real quick. So they got an insight into the warehouse that I work in. Those tall freaking ceilings. It's a gigantic warehouse. Yeah, yeah. It's almost like it's a warehouse, Keith. Yeah, but some warehouses are like 20 feet tall. Others are like 50 feet tall.

That seems to very tall warehouse. It's very tall. Our tallest forklift is 30 feet. And so it turns out, Nate, would you like to explain how you figure this out? So I didn't realize that this was a topic on last week's podcast. For starters. But Keith was pretty heated. animated if I recall yeah but also you know Keith doesn't get animated I do um but uh um the I

wake up I get so on Fridays uh typically I am I take all of the children out of the house so my wife can do floral things so I'm like trying to get everyone situated and out of the house and Keith's like texting a bunch of stuff about how his phone doesn't work and I'm like I have like 15 messages and I was like what is going on and I look it's like, what is he saying? And I'm like, he sends a screenshot. And I'm like, what? Huh?

Am I missing something? Like, it looks like a phone. I don't understand. It's like, it's weird that, huh? And so we go to a park that's like a five minute drive down the road. And I was like, I'm just going to, I just got to call Keith because I need to talk to him. And like, I need to hear his words and work through this. So I am at the park.

And Keith, I'm going to, I'm going to rag on you. I don't want to make fun of you, but I just, the situation is very funny that I am like bustling to get all of my children out of the house. I'm at a park. I am pushing three kids simultaneously on, on swings. And then I FaceTime Keith while I'm pushing all three of these children. And Keith, who is so busy in his life, is just laying on his couch. Oh, yeah, he is. And I mean, I worked my four, I worked my four tens.

That was my Friday morning off. nor relax in it. Like he didn't even... Brother, it was my day off. I was pushing three kids on a swing. I joined that call and Keith's head was on a pillow. It was dark. Mind you, I had already like woke up, squat,

made Breck. Like, I've done all in... Log on and Keith's just like laying on his couch. I was like, I look... The busy as a dick. I was like, I'm not even addressing this. So I was like, Keith, what's going on? And he starts walking me through what all was happening. and I asked him, I was like, Keith, I forget,

oh, I was like, oh, can you edit the apps? Like, do they move around? And after I started talking to him, I realized, I was like, oh, do you usually have apps in your dock? To which Keith responded with, what's a dock? And that's why I realized all of the problems existed because the giant square at the bottom of Keith's screen was just the standard iOS doc.

And he had somehow moved all of the apps that were in his dock. out of the dock. And so he was just swiping between the pages, and the dock was there with no apps. And he just never realized, which the funnier part was, when he moved the apps back into the dock on his phone,

he was like, wait, these apps stay here on all of the pages? And I was like, hasn't it always done this? So I don't know how Keith uses his phone, but he's like, all the apps are in the watch. I couldn't have done it. And I was like, I don't know what you did, Keith. Yeah.

But this was a U-ISM and... For the life of me, I have dealt with... I don't think it's passed out. Holy fuck. Every technical support thing you can think of from an Apple perspective, right? Like, the reason I have that certification is I have genuinely fixed problems that, like, even Apple was like, okay, how did you do that? And I couldn't figure that out because there's no way. There's no way you just removed all the apps from your dog.

I don't understand how it happened. But he didn't know, the thing is, it's... Well, I know what the doc... In hindsight, I was like, oh, yeah, it is always there, but it was just in the moment. I was half asleep, like you said. Like, I don't know. But it's an X, it's the, it's a concept in support. It's like the X, Y problem.

It's like he is giving us X, but we don't know the true, like, he's saying, why can I not do this? And he doesn't know that there's a step. We need to pop the stack and move up a level and be like, all right, what are you doing? Oh, you're doing this. Because he was like, when I open apps, it goes away. And when he sent the script. screenshot, I thought, or the video, the screen recording, I just thought it was something that wasn't even being rendered within the UI. Like, it was in between what was, I was like, I don't see any big black box. I don't know what he's talking about. But hey, it happens. And it's really a, it's a lesson in compassion for the ignorant and not the ignorant in a mean way. But like the ignorant, like Keith didn't know. And like you could just like be mean, but keep it, but he also did not have the words to verbalize what he did not know.

And until I took time out of my day, um, I worked with him. I spoke to him compassionately. You did. You were professional. And, you know, even though I'm not a professional. But that's okay. But that, but that, but yeah, it's a podcast. But like, you know, it's for the fans. And that's how we should be with everyone. And that's our lesson for this week. Uh, use code, uh, Eckberg, at better help. or something like that. I said when they finally messaged me and they were like, oh, he just removed all the apps from the doc. I went, ah, hit him with the old Occam's razor, did you?

Yeah. It's not that they're blocked. It's that they're not there. And that's. I still need to go through the phone, though, because like all my, now everything's like proceedingly still in the wrong spot. And I'm like, there's apps that have been in the same place for five years. And now they're not.

My brain can't get it back. Seeing how you use your phone is, it's really interesting when you start watching other people use their phone because Keith is a... I refuse to use it. I still don't know what a widget is and I'll never use one.

Well, that's fine, but you would love them. You would love a widget. I don't know if he would. Oh my God. It's like you open your phone and right on the front screen, it shows you like the weather. Or it shows you the notes for today

or it shows you your calendar for today and you don't have to go into the app to look at the, that like that to me is shocking you don't use that but the more the more interesting part to me joey is that and i don't want this to be a rag on keith but it is i deserved it it it's because my brain works in the way it does when i see other people do things i'm like wait why do you do this and is it uh is it from ignorance or is it from this is just how i like to do it yeah everything keith does is because he likes to do it that way but like he doesn't have any folders and every app is

just on a page. It's like very old school iPhone. I'm a bit like that. I only have like three or four folders. And then my entire screen is folders. Organize them or you mean like a like a folder is. Yeah, you can. Because I have folders in my files, but that's different. You're saying. No, a folder for your apps is like so. I don't like I don't like conducing. I have a I have a work folder where all of the apps I use for my job are only in that folder. And it's just easier to find by going to that

folder and knowing here's my payroll app here's my benefits app and here's my email like they're all right there but i i tried doing it with games and then the games were just now i have a folder with five pages and i was like well this is stupid i might as well just leave them on the page because then my kid can find them easier they're all his games not mine so the real pro moot i don't i only i have one page on my phone and that's it it's and i have one two three four five six apps two folders of just like the stuff I want to get too frequently or stuff I want to see like notification badges on like the budgeting app I use. I want to see the notification badges so I know when like payments are in there to process.

How do you see the notification if it's in a folder? Well, it'll bubble up to the top of the folder. Okay. Yeah, it gives you the little red badge. But I launch, if you swipe to the right on the phone, it auto-organizes everything. Yeah, it does. And like auto-populates all your, like most use apps to the top of those like

groupings. Are you doing the swipe down to pull Siri? And then it'll be like... And then I just type to search like everything. So I don't open anything. My favorite is if you do the quick swipe down on Siri, it'll judge your location and your time. Yeah, yeah. And it's like Saturday morning, 9 a.m., you're probably in the gym. You want Juggernaut. And I'm like, yes, certainly I do. Thank you, Siri. Like, it's, it's perfect. Yeah. But yeah, so just Keith. But also, seeing Keith with just like every app is on a page, there's 10 pages is like,

this is exactly what I would expect Keith's phone to look like. Like I just, so to be fair at the same time, I'm going to argue in Keith's favor on this one. I actually put things on, on like the third or fourth page that I don't want to use all the time. Yes, and Instagram Facebook are buried,

so I'm not always opening them. I'll move Pokemon Go to the third page so that I'm not continuously opening Pokemon Go. Right? Like, that's one of those things I do just to make TikTok is like on the sixth page because I'm just like I'm never going to open this. I don't want to be reminded it's there because then I have to open it. So I get it. All right. So this is, that's a topic I had in our show notes that I, I recently got into something and I wanted to,

it seems like you guys are. No, or is it TikTok? No, it's a concept of, in the product that I feel like made this big was called brick. I don't know if you've seen ads for it. Um, uh, but it is, it's a physical device that you touch your phone to and it locked your phone basically and so I've been loving this I found a

I was looking into it and it's like let's see here if I shop this device to buy one it's 4720 and I was like I don't want to buy one of these and I was just like looking around seeing what else was out there And I found this open source version of the same thing called Focus, FOQUS. And it is amazing for that exact thing of just like, I don't want to be on Instagram all the time. So what I have is a little, if you guys know what like an NFC tag is, they're like everywhere now.

If your kids have like Yotos or what's the target one? I can't remember. Tony boxes. Those all use the, like an NFC tag. And it's like a near field communication. So you can buy like 50 of these little tags off Amazon for like 10 bucks. So I bought one. And I have a tag.

And on my phone I can walk up, I can tap my phone to that tag. And I have a profile setup that it just locks whatever apps I want to. And it uses like the screen time system to do that. But what I like about that more than just using screen time is, If I want to open Instagram right now on my phone, I have to walk upstairs to my fridge and touch my phone to this physical key.

And it has been like incredible in terms of like my mental. Because like, yeah, you can put it on all these different pages, but everything I've done up until this point, like I still just end up like we're sitting on the couch as a family watching a movie and I'll just like, all right, now I'm going to look at Instagram. And I literally cannot. Like I have to get up off my butt,

walk upstairs and unlock my, my phone to like look at Instagram I don't ever look at it like it's just like and so if you've tried to DM me on Instagram I'm really sorry I haven't gotten back to you but I have I've like nine 12 hours out of the day it's like locked so I've really enjoyed that and I was curious if you guys have heard of it and I guess not but I would highly recommend looking and it's really does it it's really good is it lock and unlock or does it allow you to to engage a lock and then when screen time times out, then you have to go.

Because I would still like access to it, but then when it's timed, because I just bypass my screen time warning. Well, that's what I like about this. You can't. You can't. No, no, but I don't want to be the one that initiates the lockout.

Like, if it times itself out, and then I have to unlock it, that'd be great. But if I have to, like, lock it and then unlock it, I think I would just never go lock it. Yeah, there's all kinds of things where you can set up, like, timers and things,

but you can set up different profiles as well. Like, I have one that just locks like everything but messages. So like if I'm leaving the house with the family and it's just like I don't want anything, I can turn that on. And literally until I get home, I can't. There's like emergency things and stuff that like if I really needed to,

I could. But I just leave the like phone in maps and messages. I think it'd be beneficial for my, my wife gets pretty frustrated with her phone at times and she'll just turn it off or just like leave it. Yeah, I mean that works too. This could be more beneficial. Like this can be something that physically.

I've really really liked it so focus. Dot app use code unpaid uh is that is that true

one more time can we do that no it's completely free it's open source like the one's making money umpaid yeah use code unpaid because it's literally

unpaid unless it's in the game unpaid and underrated in which case it is underrated spell focus form one more time uh F oh no

F hmm It is spelled. Well, they spell it weird. It's F-O-O-F-O-F-O-S are going to want to know. F-O-Q-O-S dot app. If I remember, I'll put it in the show notes for you guys, so you can click it down there. Check out the show notes at Unpaid Internpodcast.com.

And you can check out the show notes there. Check out Focus app. Brick is like the mainstream one that everyone talks about. But this one's free. I've been using that website that, unpaid intern podcast.com. Yeah, tell us a little about what you've been doing in there. That fireside back door, I guess, if you will.

Yeah. So explain it. It's like fireside is the host. And like everyone that uses fireside has access to basically that website. And then you just auto pop, you basically just put your stuff in and build your own quote-unquote website just by doing data entry. Is that a question? Yeah. Well, I'm trying to understand. So like, I go to unpaid intern.com. And then it's like, wait, when I need to get in the fireside, I got to log into it. And then it's like a whole like, like, like, you know,

network administration thing on the back end. But we, I guess we ignorantly, well, I'm sure I didn't. I'm sure I knew that it wasn't something you built, but I just, I think we just started saying it was. And maybe I started remembering it wrong. But it's a, it's a website we pay for, I'm guessing, right? Yeah. Well, we don't.

Well, yeah, we don't pay for anything. Our gracious sponsor. Our gracious sponsor instead of buying a speedboats. But yeah, so the way that, I mean, we could really pop the stack. basically no one 90 second version no one builds their own podcasting system for the most

I mean there are like really big nerds that I know have but for the most part you're using a tool like FireSide for example is one of them or the one like Tanner and Tommy use is called Libson Libson's huge in the space Fireside was previously owned

it just was bought out by like three dudes like three like nerdy dudes not like three people that want to come in and ruin it but like three dudes that are passionate about podcasting. But it was built, no, it was built by a guy, like a single dude named Dan Benjamin, who was on a bunch of tech podcasts I listened to. I love him.

So I wanted to support him. I was like, we could use Fireside. It looks really good. But it also gave us the option to, like, build out our own website and some features there. And so I went with that because it would handle all our podcast hosting, but also it gave us a good landing page.

And Lipson had that, but I didn't like the way those pages looked. And so Firesight offered something that just looked a little bit better and gave us more, like the ability on our, on our website, we have like extra menus and stuff that you can click. I forget what even we have up there. I do a lot of stuff. So you haven't gone to unpaid intern podcast.com. Like there is a lot of good resources there. If you're only looking at our website, if you're only looking at our app through your, you know, your Spotify, your overcast and whatnot, like go check it out. Because all the, all the previous.

guests have profiles. All the host have profiles. Every episode has its own little like blurb essentially. We literally have a page of blog post which include a couple different songs, uh, Tron song and AI couple, a couple AI songs, I think. Uh, there's a variety of things on there. Um, so go check that out. Yeah, we have the top four moment, 40 moments in the UNU history. We launched that blog when, uh, or, uh, massonomics launched their 40th anniversary. So we also did. Unfortunately, we only got, um, really two events. on our blog. So that, that updates will come to that eventually. Yeah, we'll circle back to it.

Yeah, we'll circle back. But yeah, there's a button to become a supporting member. There's a link to glaze search. Yeah, it's, there's all kinds of stuff in here. But yeah, so I picked that in terms of building the source code from scratch. No, I did not build the source code from scratch. I have maintained all of the information and done all the little bits of design work that I can do and got it all set up. amount of work. Yeah. So, but yeah, I, you just, in terms of like week by week basis, it's going and filling

out the whole episode information, uploading the thumbnails, linking the sponsors, yada, yada. But yeah, Keith's been, Keith's been in there now. So he said that he can publish the whole podcast on his own said. I mean, I don't know about that. I could direct. That's what she said. So it was like, if, if you, you know, you know, decided to give up on us, I could, you know, as long as it was still paid for.

I could figure it out for a minute and then I'd like ask for volunteers to help manage that but we'll see we don't have the best track record with getting volunteers that are committed every week but we don't have a couple. Now the guy that said he couldn't find his apps on his phone

is going to take the files that we get compile them and put them on the website. Oh God. That would take so much for like one week. It takes me a half hour. I still like when the occasional time that I record the Zoom on my MacBook I still can't get the whole thing to send or upload to our cloud, our shared cloud.

So I literally can only do the audio because even I have to zip the audio to make it smaller. And then I send it like 10 times and eventually it'll send, but it keeps telling me it's too big or sends corrupted. And it's the biggest pain of my ass. And then Joey just like, I don't know,

he just drags it or something. And it works every time for him. It's like five in the morning. I've got one eye open. And I'm like, oh, I got to send that. And then I just drag and drop and hit enter and walk out the time. Yeah, I don't know how that,

I don't know how what's the different setup on yours to mine, but it's I probably I probably have more cloud storage than you, but I think we've done. I have the full one now. Let's let's do. Okay, I think we need to move on from tech support here. This is a tech podcast now. The whole point. We're tech pros now. I haven't gone back through all the old episodes and adding people's names to it. So if you are a listener and you're going through the backlog, hopefully it's easier. I think I'm only up to like episode 40 now, but I know there are people, we literally have people listening to our backlog now. Yeah. Like, there's. people that talk about our podcast that I don't know who they are. Like they're commenting on our in, in, in massonomics discord under our channel every week for the past few months. And I, I, I couldn't tell you who they are on Instagram. I like, or if they are, like, I want to know these people because they're listening to our podcast.

They're telling us they're listening to the backlog. That's wild to me. So and when I did mention, yep. To be fair, Keith had originally said we should put the guest's name. I was told no. And, and we vetoed it because we didn't want it to be about that. Like I said at the beginning of this, I really wanted the focus on the crew, not particularly one or two or three crew members. And then it got to the point.

I guess it's like one of those things where you don't see the future. You can't see the future. You see, this is what I want. This is how I want to do this right now. And then things evolve. And, you know, it's like the joke where, like, I lived very stupidly when I was young because I didn't think I would live this long. And now here we are where I was like, no, let's do this at the time because we're not going to get to 150 episodes. Like nobody's going to listen to this.

And now here we are. And you're right, Keith. Like this now suddenly it's just like, ah, shit, we should have been doing this the whole time. So like, good for you for foreseeing that. And amazing for you for putting in the work of going and doing it because I'll be damned if I'm going to do it. Like there's no chance I'm going to go through and do the fact stuff. I need to get back to it too. I apologize if I haven't got to your episode yet.

But I think it just makes it easier for people to find people. Absolutely. So I think I eventually I'll get to all of them. So or Nate will have a, you know, Nate will find some free time and, you know, chit throws some ways in there. But, but I think I will, I will be the burden. I will bear that burden. I will bear the burden.

No, you can stick with being the burden. I'll just, I'll put it out there right now. I will never. do it. And nine times out of ten, I almost forget to put the actual guest name on the current episode. So Keith might also get some of those. I'm very happy you're doing it. I'm not going to do it. I have to keep referencing like the format though, because I'm like, wait, is it, is it, are we capitalizing feature? When is there a period? And then I struggle with like, if you already have parentheses, it's like, do I dual parentheses? Do you use the, the, the straight parentheses?

Square brackets is what we call those in the business. That guy. In the business. Anyway, I'm not, all right. But, yeah, enough about all that, I guess. Someone pick a topic. A straight parentheses, just like Tanner. He's the straightest.

So straight. We do have so much in common with them. I love it. Okay, yeah, I'll do one of my, I threw in a few topics here. And what I love about our notes is I don't remember what I put in or what you guys put in. The first time I ever met, Tanner and Tommy was at the Arnold. At that point, I don't think

crew existed. 20, so that would have been... 2023, I think. It did. Yeah. Our year was together the first time, right? Yeah, we were, yeah, so March, 2023.

That was the year Keith avoided me. Yeah, yeah. He left, I was like every later. You were late. And, uh, it's three years to meet. I love it. You know, I, I just went walking up. I had my kids with me.

I had my wife with. me and gosh the the welcoming it was they were you know Tanner talks about it now where he says like you know these are just people I know and I may not have never met them but like I see them and I know them I can confirm that is true I walked up and they were like it's Joey and then I was like oh my God you're Tanner and Tommy like I was completely taken aback with these again monstrosities of men that have two to three feet on me. We're not big math. But they, they just welcomed me in like it was, like I had always been there. And,

you know, that I put my cooler down, I put my bag down, and that was home base. And, you know, it's hard to say that, you know,

anybody else that, any other podcast hosts, anybody else in the world that you would, would listen to like you listened to them, would do that for you. So I was wondering about how, your experience meeting Tanner and Tommy for the first time went.

What about you, Nate? My story is similar to Joey, so I'll let you go off to not tell the same story twice. While I think of a way to differing treat it. So the first time I ever met, Tanner was on the Masanomics podcast. They called me, and I was a guest years ago, but after that, I did meet them in person. I don't know. I think all of, it's funny because all of our,

I think everyone, and I mean, the global everyone's reaction that's, you know, around Massonomics meeting Tanner and Tommy is like, a very similar, like two reactions,

just like these guys are giants and they're really nice. Like, you know what's it like meeting? Well, you're like, wow, these dudes are huge.

And like, I remember, I think I stood on a chair next to Tanner in one of the pictures I took. I was like, can I just look like, I'm not,

like, I'm not tiny. I'd like, like that. But yeah, like the first time I met them, it's so crazy to think of like that versus now, because

we hadn't started this podcast. Like, it was such a different time at that point. Like, they're just like, oh, it's big Nate. And it's like, it's crazy that you know who I am and, you know, all of that stuff. But, you know, when you, I saw you put this in here, the only thing

I thought of was just like, I just remember to be like, those guys are a lot taller than me. Yeah. That's like, that's the first thing you think of because they're just big dudes and I don't know, I'm not a big dude and Joe,

I mean, Joey can agree. Like we're, you know, everyone's just taller than us. And so, yeah, what are you going to do?

Did I have the tattoo at that point? Like, was that my differentiator? I think, I'm trying to like a thing. Is it in the, because that was our first picture together. I'm trying to think,

I don't think it's only from the body or it's the waist up. So I'm trying to remember. Because if I had the tattoo, I think that I got, like, I got recognized. recognized at the Arnold by other Massonomics fans, but... I don't know, it all blends together,

gee wagons and protein farts or whatever. Joey, when did you get the tattoo? We could just do math. Oh, no, no, no. First, I'm not big math. Second, I don't remember when I got any of my tattoos. Oh, well, okay. Well, and that's our calendar segment, sponsored by Calendley. Yeah, you had it. Yeah, all right. So, like, that would help, too,

but I don't know, Keith, go ahead with yours. Similar. So it would have been the Arnold 2023, outside of them being monstrosities and just being large, jacked humans that are very tall. And also at the, I think it's emphasized how tall they were because it was at the Arnold where everyone's fucking five foot six. So like, I think that if we were at like a basketball game,

they wouldn't have been tall. But like the fact that it was the Arnold and like there weren't tall people like on average. But I guess the judge. generosity and like like I remember Stephanie was with me and like I it's more that I remember like a whole like event and more than like individuals but I'm sure they both remembered her name were talked to her chatted with her just like she was crew even though she wasn't like the generosity just the kindness they showed other people the genuine list genuinely decent dudes they are I think that was the year he was gifting the dishwasher the non

dishwasher safe oh yeah I was about to bring that up because they had the the drink spotter light was being debuted and more Morgan walked up and Morgan went, hey, I wonder if that fits. And she put it in. And they were like, oh my gosh, our mug fits in our drink spotter. That's your mug now, by the way. And she just, like, got to take that mug because that, like. I was bummed.

They ran out of mugs when I, by the time I, but I think. Stinking. The coolest part is like, like, they morph from being dudes that, like, we immortalized to, like, our good friends, like, our literal personal friends that, like, we can text and call and stuff. Like, I think that's the coolest part for us that, you know, we're, we're the lucky guys that kind of like, like, I don't know, partially just because this podcast, we've added fucking hundreds, literally hundreds of people to our rolodex of friends, for the most part. But that whole. Yeah, that whole Arnold was just a wild experience.

Because I go from, like, meeting Tanner and Tommy. And the way that I got into the Arnold was, like, Grant just posted in the Discord and was like, does anyone need a way in? I have like an extra badge. Yep. And I, he had one and I was just like, I need one. I'd never talk to Grant in my life.

And so, uh, I actually, it's funny to bring them. Well, that's not, that's not completely true. Because I think I had made the strength co-bought for the discord before that.

Um, so there was like that some like, but like I had not had any con, like no real back and forth conversation. I made this. He's like, cool. And that,

that was about it. Um, but like, after that, I think Grant texted me or saw me or something and was just like, hey, just make your way over to our booth like at some point. And I was like, oh, I got to get over there. I like, I should probably work for the fact that he got me into this. And I like walk over there and he just like, hey, come sit behind the booth and talk to me. And I was like, oh yeah, he did the same thing for us too. Yeah. But it's just such a weird. Like the whole Arnold experience was just like, what world am I living in that anyone wants to talk to me? Like it's just a. Yeah. It's just. It's just. didn't make any sense. And, like, you know, standing around the massonomics booth and Tanner's just like, so, like, what do you do? Like, just having, like, legitimately wanting to learn about me.

It's like, none of this makes any sense from, like, you know, and it just turns out people are people. And you show up on, I show up on the Friday, meet everybody. Same thing. I go to the Strength Code. There's Grant and Jonathan Oldham. And John's like, yeah, I got a beer for you. Come back.

And then I'm just like, I'm sitting back there during the deadlift. event. I'm sitting there with like Shane Hunt, Jonathan Oldham, Tadj, like, TD Max was there, sorry, TD Smash was there. Like all these guys and I'm just, and I'm just like sitting there like, Hi, I'm this little dude and I don't know why I'm here, but I'm drink a beer, Jonathan Oldham, so this is kind of fun. Yeah. And then the next day, I'm behind the booth at Massanomics selling shirts. they're like, we want to go for a walk and Kevin's like, we got this. And I was like, I don't want to touch money,

but I will help you sell anything. And like, that's what we're doing. We're selling. And then the following year, I get one of these. I get an exhibitor pass. Tanner messages me and he's like, are you coming? And I'm like, yeah, he's like, dope. You got a pass.

Just come to the booth. And I'm like, what? Like, who am I? So anyway. That's all I wanted to talk about there. The Arnold that we just described does not exist anymore. It does not exist anymore. Rest in peace.

It might not even exist. Maybe Grant will bring it back. We'll pray that Grant brings back a good Arnold. Then we have a home base or something. But I doubt it. I don't think it's beyond. It's beyond saving. They're going to add an extra day.

They were talking about it on the OK podcast. And I don't know if the Strength Co will be back. It just seems like a ton of extra work to add an extra day. And I'm curious. I'm curious if vendors. Well, yeah, I wonder vendors will give a lot of pushback. But, oh, while we're on it and Joey walks away for a second, since I wasn't on the Arnold episode, I didn't get to get my hot takeoff about the Arnold. And I think now's the appropriate time.

And I just want to say, hot take, not every booth needs a DJ. And I'll just put that, I just want to let that put that out there. Not every booth needs a full-time DJ blasting house music. into the expo. I was at a bridal show this weekend with my lovely wife for floral designs by K. Get your wedding florals there. Online, ship to you. You call her, not me.

We'll take care of it. But like, there were no DJs at any of those booths. And you know what? The Expo was fine. No DJs. We don't need DJs at booths. We don't need them.

We don't need no stinking DJs. No DJs at Expo booths. Just 2027, whatever year it is. Please, no. It will be. Well, it will be 2027. that's fucking... So less DJs, more G-wagons.

Yes, but listen, if every booth had a G-wagon, I'd be perfectly fine with that. Then I'd know where to find Keith. It'd actually be harder to find Keith because it'd be like which G-wagon. Yeah, yeah. The Glaze Wagon. We'll get our own booth.

Yeah, we'll get our own dingh. We'll get our own G-wagon, daggone it. We're going to need a lot of money. So speaking of that, uh, make sure to use code unpaid at all our stuff, um, so that we can buy a G-wagon for our, to haul our speed boat

to the Arnold. I think there was like a pond out front we could probably write it around in. I think the year I was there was hot tubs that people were just like making ghost dude soup. Just disgusting dude soup. Nothing like Arnold dude soup.

That's what I've always said. Oh, other thing another thing I had in my notes though in these notes, I did get to watch Tom fight at the Arnold since we're on the Arnold. I only stayed for one of it. had like five matches.

I stayed for one of them. This was a sanctioned event. He didn't actually get into a fifth. He just, yeah, what do you mean there's wool in Tommy's hair? I'll take you down. Yeah, Tom.

Tom Corrick competed in a Brazilian jiu-jitsu competition. And my wife and I were trying to like figure out if we could get there. If we had to buy an expo pass. And we ended up being able to get in. We ended up going primarily because, We stayed with Tom and his wife overnight, and there was a coffee shop nearby that his wife had been to previously

that had gluten-free donuts that she really wanted, and they didn't end up getting there before the match. And so we went and got her a gluten-free donut and took it to her, and they were like, oh, we'll stay for one of the matches since it starts soon. And so we were watching, one, watching Tom warm up for Brazilian Jiu-Ditsu,

insane. Second, watching Tom compete in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu makes me never want to make a joke about Tom killing me again because he could 1,000% slaughter me. Also, I don't know if my heart has ever, like, I was literally just ready to,

and I'm like used to like, like power lifting competition where people were like yelling and everyone was so quiet. Like there was no like, ah, like it was all just like very like, it wasn't like golf, like people were just like,

come on, yeah, what, yeah. But like there was no just like, and I was like, I'm, my, I felt like my, I was like, ah, I was just like, my heart was like race it's a five minute match and my heart was like at 160 beats per minute the whole time so like like I was like I don't even know the words I like got nervous for him and I don't even know why it was a it was a crazy experience but yeah Tom scares the heck out of me now and

the things he does with his body doesn't make any sense I don't I don't like it um so yeah strong as heck he's scary he called it pajama wrestling that was a very yeah I do like I do like that bit. But yeah, so shout out to Tom for beating like four out of five. The first person he beat, I was talking to him in the hall as he was warming up. And he's like, ah, it sucks that you came to this match. Like, the dude I'm facing is, he's like 140 and 2 or something. Like, insane like that.

Like, the dude doesn't ever lose matches. And he's like, I'm going to lose this match. Like, you pick the wrong match. You should stick around to see me, like, actually win some. Tom beat the guy. And I was like, damn. I was ready to go just like start smack talking that. Like I was just like, yeah, they're stuck in my friend Tom beat.

Like I was just so fired up. And Tom was like, yeah, that guy doesn't lose. I was like, yeah, he does. He loses to Tom. Like, and I was like, and Tom, the crazy. Like, I was just, like, dude. And we were out late. Like, we were at the Arnold all day.

Like, this isn't even you and your peak. Like, when we get you to peak. He competed. He competed after walking around the Arnold, traveling to Columbus. Everything we talked about the Eagle. He did that after. Yeah, and I was like, you're insane. And he went four and five.

Like, he won four of his matches, which is crazy. And he was so, so nervous. So, yeah. Shout out to Tom. Good dude. We'll get him on the podcast someday whenever you get him scheduled. Yeah, I'll get around to that. Got a lot going on.

It'll end up being spur. Get to it in a minute. It'll be fall time at this point, because I've got, I've got literally have two spots left before, Lift Hard Live Easy and Home GymCon that I'm kind of seeing who, you know, can pitch to me the best pitch to get those. spots because it'd like to be someone at both or either. Yeah, we

tried to get him on, but he just couldn't make it. So, you know, he seems to be coming just like our good friend Matt. It seems like, you know, we just keep trying to get him on and he just can't make it, I think, is the real problem there. So, we'll see if we can get him on at some point.

Keith, I think it's your turn to pick a topic. Oh, what is? Spicy pizza text me yesterday out of the blue and was like, hey, Grayson. And I'm like, no clue what he's talking about just completely. Like, I haven't been on Instagram since like maybe 5 a.m. that morning where I glanced at it before I got up and then sort of my day and I haven't been on social media sense.

It was obviously, it ended up being his birthday and I didn't know that. So he was making fun of me by calling me Grayson because as the keeper of the birthday celebration. You forgot? Because you forgot his birthday. Yeah. Well, yeah. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was the full circle.

And I had, like, he was trying to like not explain it to me, but I kept him being like, Like, dude, I'm, I'm sorry. Like, I, as soon as you explained to me, the joke, and then I was like, oh, it is your, because I hadn't seen that he posted his birthday in Discord. So, uh, yeah, so happy birthday pie's pizza. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, buddy. And then we're, uh, and then, uh, just a big, I think earlier we'd mentioned about, you know, if Nate disappeared on us, you know,

when, when Tom whoops his ass and puts him in the ground that, uh, you know, will be in search of more volunteers and how we really don't have many that, that, that are thorough. Um, you know, big Jeff was with us for a couple. couple years and did great and then big gary's picked up the mantle and been the keeper of the stickers so appreciate anyone that uh you know specifically right now currently gary uh you're doing a great job with the stickers uh you're literally mailing them out before we get them on the podcast sometimes you're you're like ahead of the curve you are literally ahead of the curve there um so appreciate you oh speaking of gary gary i actually have a message from gary yeah strawberry wow

It's good, so I haven't, listen, I haven't, I haven't played that too much lately. That's our good, our good goblin friend, Gary. And honestly, like, I'll, I have to add something here. When I was looking for some stuff for this episode, I messaged Gary. And then I was like, I need your help. I want to do this game. What can you think of? And he responded within two minutes.

He had all the answers within two minutes. So, should we play that game? sure Shebert Shepard So I am on my backlog journey through the sister podcast in my attempt to get Masters

My attempt, I'm going to get it And There was a... You already Masters? M1 We're gonna log off soon, Nate We're gonna leave you

to close out yourself or bedtime. There was a game they used to play. And if you guys remember this game, it was called Guess the Lifter. In which case, Tanner would give Tommy some big lifters

and he would start by giving them their sponsors or affiliates and saw if he could guess who that lifter was. So I want to play Guess the crew. Ah, nice. No, no.

Okay. You look really bad? So I've got three, maybe four crew members who have affiliates and I've taken screenshots. So if I have to go to their profile, I will to make this a little easier. I'm going to start by listing what I think is the hardest. And then you guys have to try and guess who that crew member is and who this affiliate, or who their sponsors and affiliates, like, bring YouTube. that.

So I'm going to start with... Wait, do we have to guess what the affiliate is? No, no, no, no. I'm going to give you the affiliate. Guess what the affiliate is? I'm going to give you the affiliate. What is he going to give us?

The birthday? Now, Keith. Yeah, buddy. How many affiliates do I have to give you to guess this crew member? Uh. Well, if they have, a lot of people aren't going to have multiple affiliates.

And if there's, are these OG crew? Nope, nope, now giving you that. Okay, um, two and a half. So I go, does that make it two or three? Yeah, I'll do,

I can, I'll guess 80% of the crew and three guesses. Uh, Nate. And I'm only, I'm gonna need like 25. I'm only listing five at the most. People have more than five. Oh, yeah.

That are public. Blake are these like buried in link trees? No, well, they're all buried in link trees. Yeah, there's only so many that I know of that. Because this thing about Instagram is if you put too many affiliates in your bio, they hide you for trying to sell things. So most people just use link tree. Okay, I'm going to start with this one.

Not to get too easy. This person has an affiliate code with Darko lifting. You can't go. You can't go on your phone and look. No, I'm literally my... Oh, okay. Your face was just... No, no, no.

I'm looking down thinking. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I could... The only person that I know that has a ton of... Well, like, what is... Also, is this... Are we both just guessing simultaneously as... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. Well, so you get three guesses. If you say to me, I don't know who it is based on this one, I can go on to the next one. Well, yeah, I'm gonna... I want to hear all... Because, I mean, Carp's got a bunch of affiliates. Hogan probably has a couple.

I think Damager has some. I don't know. So are you making a guess with any of those names? No. No, I'm not going to make a guess off Darko because there's probably five people that have it. All right. Nate, do you have the wheel ready or do you have something to bring up a cheer when he finally gets this one? Uh.

Yeah. Okay. So you're not, you're not guessing it off of dark olivting. No. Okay. This person also has a code with rogue fitness. It's got to be carp then, because I don't know so many people that are like that and steeled and having affiliates, because he's the only really.

I mean, there's other people that are, you got it. You got it. There's the horns. There we go. Because there's also, like, I know a lot more crew that are just like, quote unquote, supporting members, but like wouldn't consider, like, they wouldn't be eligible for this game because they're not like homies that are, you know, big affiliate people. You mean influencers? Oh, we got to talk. We got to talk.

We are not going to talk about that. All right. Next one. This person has a code with Barbell Rescue. Jake Hydrick. Nope. Hmm. Wrong again.

Keith. I'm so happy that happened. I'm not think. Well, yeah, I know Karp does too, but it's not going to be multiples. I'm not going to do anything to us. I'm trying to, no, no, I know. I'm trying to think who else pushes it. Yeah, I'm going to need a second unless Nate.

I mean, I could throw out names, but like this, like we don't have a parade. parameters the game but here's the thing is I'll give you the second one but you're it's not going to make things easier oh great I'm glad that you're giving me the second one to make things easier they also have a code with obsidian ammonia you no hmm I don't ever look at people's affiliates that's like yeah especially on especially on ones that are ours like because if anything that's just our competition I mean this person only has three. So if I'll give you the third one. Yeah, go ahead. Give me the third one. Because then what I have to do is then read some of their profile. And that's going to give it away

in a dumb, dumb way. What is it, is it like not a, is it not a fitnessy third affiliate then? Their crew. No, no, no, no, is the affiliate itself. What's the third one? The third affiliate for this person is Freedom Strength Co. Oh, it's Hogan. Yep. Okay. Yeah, That should have been my guess. Yeah! I don't have a sound. Not yet. But, you know, good news, code unpaid at Barbell Rescue.

Okay. You want to do the third one? Is this game fun for you at all? Yeah, I'm having a good time. I just... I got something right, so I'm having a blast right now. If I get the next one wrong, the game sucked. Oh, yeah, we're tied.

So whoever wins this next round is, like, literally all the marbles rely on this. That's not how you said. All the marbles are mine. All your bases are mine. This one is for all the marbles. Okay. I think Keith lost the marbles, though. So to make this as hard as possible,

this person has a code with obsidian ammonia. Oh, perfect. All right, next one. Okay, okay, okay. There are so many crew with obscenium. There's literally, there's literally 20 crew with obsidian ammonia because I see I'm posting it all the time. It is the most. Let me see if I can get the rest of the other stuff here.

Killed Nate. I almost died when Nate was telling my cell phone story. Like, I don't know if you guys saw or heard it, but like I thought I was going to pass out. Like I turned to beat red. I stopped breathing properly and bent over laughing so hard. I love laughing like that, but I thought I almost died. Okay. this person has a code with barefoot shoes.

Hmm. What's the last one? Keith is thinking hard. I mean, there's... Yeah, but his marbles are lost. He doesn't have them yet. He has to win his marbles back. There is a vera.

I don't know. Okay. This one will make. get probably a dead giveaway. That's what I was waiting for, so I could get points. This person has a code with Mitchell Hooper's Lift Hard BeDind. Oh, it's Joey. That one was me, yep.

Oh. I was guessing that on the last one, but I wasn't sure that. See, that one's extra hard because I don't have that anywhere on my Instagram. That's funny. So what do I win? Do I get Keith's marbles now? At least I used to have a code. I don't even know.

I don't think I've checked. I got it. Do your marbles glow in the dark? Didn't we talk about that on the podcast once? Yeah. No. We talked about it in the post show. Well, there was the different types of artificial testicles you could get after a cancer or something like in and removed.

I think that was a whole. That was a whole sacment. There's a play on words. You guys get it? That's funny. I liked that a lot. I liked it a lot. Sometimes I'm.

Sometimes I'm witty. I can't always know what words mean, but sometimes I'm funny with them. That was fun. It was enjoyable. I wasn't sure if it was going to be like guest the crew, like their features or whatever, because I saw that listed.

Because someone had mentioned it in Discord of like playing, like the old like kids game of like, oh, who's the one with a beard and bald. He's got no hair and probably a beard. No, no, no, no. I do like the game and like like other iterations of it of like, just random facts of like facts of like facts.

Like I think it's a, I think it's, so next time we do this in like six months to a year, I like the idea of playing that again, but with like, not necessarily the affiliate aspect of it, but like this is their total. This is their, I don't know. Like it could be even facts from their episode or something. That could actually be cool. If they, actually that, that could be fun. If any guest, if any, if any crew listening wants to run an episode where they kind of maybe put Joey and I through a quiz show of guest the, guess the former guest. by like going through show notes and like random facts of them. I don't know. That'd be fun. I just wanted to do it like they did it. Like I just wanted to do exactly what they did on their first, you know, because they played Mount Rushmore on their most recent episode and claimed it was their game. And I thought, hey, we could do that too.

But any affiliates you heard, they don't exist. Don't use them. Only use Mastonomics affiliates, but more importantly use unpaid and underrated for all their affiliates. Those are the key affiliates. Keith, what kind of affiliates are those? We've got a variety. So there are obsidian ammonia, plate snacks, belt fed, strength, as well as Barbo Rescue, home gymcon, and apparel from the Strength Co.

Couldum pay, it'll save you a little bit of money at all those locations. And I just want to say, I'm actively wearing the official girl dad tea of the Masanomics crew, the pink squat tea from the Strength Co. So this shirt is just, the squat tea is great. It is like, it might be one of the most perfect t-shirts that's out there. It's like a comfort colors, but like if you just pushed it up just a, it is beefy and it's a good, it's a good blank. The neck is like, this like chunky neck.

It's kind of fun. But yeah, use code unpaid there. Let them, let them know we sent you for all your girl dad t-shirt needs. They got in all the colors. So if you want to celebrate St. Patrick's Day, maybe they have green. I don't know. Yell at Grant.

Make them make a green shirt. He'll love that, I'm sure. Okay. I've talked a lot if somebody wants to choose another talk about. I got a little bit of a rant today. Yeah. Buckle up. Hey,

this is something I've said a million times. It just, it just. Can we trash Keith for his ridiculous statements in the Discord today? No, go ahead and rant. Oh, yeah, feel free. So my, it's just, everyone my most important one of the most important things to me is just bringing the community together and then like why do you keep changing your profile pictures on discord to make them not even be your face or something stupid and then like we go to click on your profile and it's just empty and I'm like do you just not want to find friends in this group like that's fine too maybe you don't but like there's some people in my mind I'm specifically thinking of like they're very accidental on social media they're always trying to like you know they want to be part of the community but then like the 30 seconds it takes to like link your you and you episode or put your Instagram profile or in anything like that.

I don't know. That just proves me they're not listening to the current episodes because I've mentioned this like multiple times. But feel free, do you?

If you don't have to do that unless you know, people are more private but it's also like, I don't know, just, why are you here if you don't want to,

get on, there are people that aren't on Instagram for sure. Can I make a counter, Keith? Is it going to be a shit covered counter with underwear and a note?

Nah, there it is. There's the, there's the bit. Um, uh, Contradictical. So you say this, and you come at people pretty hard, and yes, I do think it is really handy.

And if I only used Discord for Massonomics-related stuff, I would consider that. But I'm in groups that are like... You can change your profile based on which server. You can't change everything. And also, sometimes you have to pay like $20 a month that I'm not changing $20 a month. Yeah, I forget that noise. Yep. Like, you can change certain things, but I don't think you can change, like, your description and things.

If you can. I'm pretty sure you have a profile per account, because, like, I can look at, I think when I'm going to go to my... You can't change your name. You can't change the image unless you pay more, I think. Well, I'm changing your fucking image anyway, because I don't recognize your... There's 17 fucking mats. If you change your picture, I don't know who you are anymore. Literally.

I'm in, like, I'm in a lot of discords with, like, for example, Svel, the framework that I use. to build gym radar, I'm in a discord for that development framework and I don't want my unpaid and underrated information in that. It doesn't look professional. And so I agree to that then.

You don't know what everyone else is doing in there because to you it is like that is where you just interact with like Masonomics, Massonomics adjacent stuff. So it makes sense. But a lot of people have like whole communities that have no idea what that is outside side up, you know what I mean? So it is, it'd be like, you know, hey, why, Nathan, why isn't,

why don't you have this really niche joke in your Instagram bio? And it's like, well, because my Instagram is also like, my mom is there. Like, you know, there's more than just massonomics people there. So Discord's the same way. It's just harder to see because you could only use it for one thing. That's correct. There's just, I just, I just want to know more people. So then, like, okay, if I could bring you both together at one tipping point, uh, there was. Come with you if we want to come. Yes, come with me if you want to come. I would love to.

Today, a Canadian responded to one of my comments in the food and drink. When I posted, oh, Canadians will get this energy drink. And he was like, oh, this is my favorite or she. I actually don't know who that is. And when I went to find their Instagram, it doesn't exist because of the thing that they had in their profile

isn't on Instagram or they're private. Hey, here's a fun story. there's not a lot of Canadian crew. Why don't I know you? Dude, I was looking through the gym radar map and just looking at all the Canadian gyms last night while I was waiting to get on the podcast. There's a surprising amount of little Canadians out there.

And most of them don't follow me. I don't follow them. We don't interact. It's a big state. It's a big state. I created an Ontario crew chat just for the sake of like when I'm having Strong Men Sunday

or if state's going to do it. I'm going to an event this weekend. Hopefully, fingers crossed, I show up at this event. And I was like, yo, like, I'm going to represent crew, represent unpaid and underrated. Does anybody want to go? And that's just this small local Ontario group. But, you know, there does come. Keith, you're kind of right.

And Nate makes a very good point. But the alternative is, like, okay, there's 600 American. crew, there's 75 Canadian crew, and I don't know 50 of them. How is that possible? Yeah. Right? It's not like I'm hard to find. I give my Instagram on every episode. I have a public profile. I would love to talk to you. But I

understand maybe people don't want to. That's awesome. I suck most of the time. So like, I wouldn't reach out to me either, but like at the same time, there is a little bit of a both sides to this, if I could with that. Yeah. So if you're from Canada and you don't know Joey, get to know him. But to your point, like Kyle at the Arnold, I've been talking to him online and we have like a Northeast Ohio chat.

Yeah. And I didn't know. He was like, hey, he's like, Nathan, what's up? And I was like, who are you? I didn't even know. And I was like, are you in the? the north northeast he's like yeah i was like oh cool where speaking of even tall people that guy's freaking tall he's he's he's tall both him and his him and his buddy his buddy's in the crew now

too that yeah yeah but like like or like tady waffles when the boys were coming through ohio and they're like yeah we're going to go see tattie waffles i was like that dude's in ohio like i didn't know like like he's on maybe an hour from my house didn't know like there's just i don't know it the world is big and it's hard to know everyone. I'm pretty sure Dave Tate is like less than two or three hours from me. Like I'm fairly certain if we look at that. He's not too far. Dave Tate?

Which is right outside of Columbus. Yeah, yeah, he's not that far from me. Columbus is only about, Columbus is six hours. So like, well, then he's six hours away from you. Yeah, he's like, I don't, I mean, I don't know if he's. I thought he was closer, to be honest with you. I thought he was closer. No, to my knowledge, he's.

You have to pass my house. to get to Dave. Jason to Columbus. Yeah. And it's just like, anyway. So sorry if I was too hard on people, but it's not,

I don't want to be a dickhead. I just, I like people. Being a dickhead. I get multiple, I get, once a week someone texts me or DMs me or personal messages me or one of the 19 different ways

people can contact me on social media or by my phone. And they ask me who this person is. I'm like, I have an answer for him maybe half the time. The other half the time's like, I don't fucking know who that is. That person talks on our, Discord every single day for the past three months, I don't know who it is.

Don't know his real name. He's got a picture that's not a real picture. Yeah. I don't. It's an animated. It's archer. It's always fucking Archer. I don't know.

I got one of these people are. Like, if they're on social media outside of Discord, like, I feel like I get to know people better by seeing their profile and like talking to him on Instagram more so than, I mean. And now that I made the Archer joke for all of you people that are thinking, I'm going to make my profile picture Archer to fuck with Joey. It's not funny. I'm doing it right now. I stepped on your joke before you did it.

Ha, ha, ha. I did the thing you said not to do. Oh, look at me. So that's interesting that we had, I threw up on Instagram for anyone had any suggestions for us to talk about. Some of it was like, there were like some really elaborate ones. I threw up on Instagram. I don't know what happened. I just ate onions and just coming everywhere.

I threw it up on Instagram that we had a, you just to shoot the shit up. episode and didn't get a whole lot of responses, you know, why pre-workout shits are heinous? Don't really need to talk about that because, I don't know, shit's in. They just are. It's, like, if it's caffeinated, that's why. Yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't say I've ever get them from pre-workout. I just get them in general. More, uh, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, best massonomics events you've been to and which

year was the best. I don't really know about which year. Because it's kind of, well, I mean, yeah, they're, they're only going on about three or four years, right? So, so that is actually a good one then. So best massonomics events you've been to essentially your favorite Masonomics event period like sure. So so you can rank it by like which of the big three or four.

A year that stood out. So I guess I can go, man, this historically it's been crew falls. And I probably would still probably would say crew falls in general. But the Arnold this year like the eagle like the eagle night. It was just like such a long fun night. And we actually had the place. And it wasn't like we weren't fighting other patrons. we didn't have to go fucking do Tommy's favorite bar crawl thing because we were already at the bar

that you were going to chill out all night like not having to like leave and go from another place to another place and like just like watch people like like like just peel off and lose all your friends and get down to like four or five people like that was just so much more fun to me like so as far as my favorite event I think it's still crew falls because it's like a weekend of that more or less but this year's eagle I don't even call it like fuck fuck the Arnold it was this year's eagle was the blast for me so I don't want to like, the same eagle where Keith said,

I'm not talking to anyone anymore. It was just fun. But part of me, maybe I remember the eagle being more fun too because I had such a heinous trip getting there. And I was just like, I'm going to make this an awesome weekend because I have to because I've, it's been too much money to be in a pissy mood.

But like, lift hard's fun. I love lift hard, but it's like, that's work. Like, that's an actual meat. And for some people,

they don't look at it that way. But like my brain, that's why I've pivoted to strong man because I can have more fun at a strong man, but it's still work for me. Um, I'm really looking, sort of this year by having like the extra time.

But I don't know. Crew Falls is just, it's a different thing. It's more intimate. It's like just crew falls is my jam. But the eagle was this year was pretty clutch. But everything. I haven't had a bad fucking crew meetup. Not a single one.

As far as ranking them, it's like, I don't know. For about to a year. No, don't rank. Just you said yours. For me. Tier list. Tear list. Yeah.

No tier list. So for me, I'm going to go, sorry, Nate, you can go last because you're awesome. And he's been to less stuff. Yeah. It ultimately comes down to, again, not how it was, but how you felt about it. And I think the first lived, hard, live easy would have to be that for me. I didn't compete, so I got to just go and be a fucking menace. We had just started our podcast.

Like we were just, like, three or four months into it. And it was a genuine blast. And I got to just hang out and have fun. I think the second Lipped Hard Live Easy was a little extra fun. Because I think that's where, like, me and the gingers did our, like, walk out with the matching shirts and stuff like that. So we got to do more bits and have a little more fun. but I think as far as how things felt and how excited I was,

the first of the Lift Hard-Live-Easy is going to top that for me. Crew Falls is, I've only been to one. I don't know if I'll do a second until, geez, things get way cheaper. But like,

that crew falls was crowdsourced. You guys paid. My friends paid for me to go to that for my 40th birthday. Like, that was one of the coolest things. If you look at everything that happened to get me there, that was my 40th birthday present from every single friend I have. That is the coolest shit that has ever happened.

And then I got to go hang out with a bunch of other cool friends. So, yeah, that's my answer. Crew Falls. Yeah, go for crew falls. If you want to compete, go to the lift hard. Don't let it be your first competition. That's not fair. It is the best competition you will ever be a part of,

and it will ruin every other competition you try and go to. If you don't want to compete and you just want to hang out with buds, yeah, crew falls is where it's at. Big Nate? Well, I don't go to anything. I don't do anything. I mean, you go to the bathroom when they, you know, come to have a pizza party. Yeah, my favorite event was the time I had diarrhea the whole time

the guys were in town and just sound like an hour away from you too it was like so close dude yeah it's so frustrating and that pizza place is awesome it's such a huge bummer to be pooping every five minutes instead of getting to hang out with your friends and eat really good food together um yeah that was my favorite was just that that time spent on the toilet sunday morning and all throughout the day no i don't know i guess my favorite uh you've done what you've done most the Arnold's and then Lyft Hard-Live-Easy last year, right? Anything else?

Yeah. No. Yeah. I don't know. Lifter Lovizi is the best one I've been to because I've got to meet the most people. And it was really cool. A cool culmination of,

yeah, I finally got to meet Keith. It was still a while. It took us almost three years. Like, we would know, I mean, three years of doing a podcast together to meet,

but like knowing each other for like five years or four years since we did this. Yeah. But so, I don't know. That whole trip was, It was crazy, just like Joey said, like all of a sudden, my wife was just like, hey, by the way, you're going to go. And then I couldn't go.

And then all of a sudden, I could go again. And it was just a whirlwind of emotions. And then I got to, because I didn't think I was going, I got to surprise everyone, which was really fun. And it kind of makes me not want to tell anyone I'm going to do anything ever again and just show up and surprise everyone all the time, which I won't be doing this year. So don't get your hopes. I asked you if you were coming out. No, just that ain't going to happen. Well, you know what?

We crowdsourced Joey's trip to crew falls. My wife said if I can get an in-home nanny for the entirety of my being gone after our fourth child is born, it's fair game. So if you guys, if, you know, when she do? June 15th. Jesus. So. The day early, we'll share a birthday. Hey, I pray that she isn't because we have a wedding booked that day.

Wait, you're, she's on a wedding, the nine months, literally nine months pregnant? Yeah, that's going to be a blast, can't wait. Well, she booked it before, you know, what are you going to do? She didn't want to back out. Most, all of our kids have come pretty late other than the other than the other. So you'll be doing a wedding. Yeah, it's not, it's not a lot of work, but it's a lot of work sort of thing. So it's a lot of sitting around and waiting to move stuff.

Sounds like what we do here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, so probably won't be there. I will say after going to the Arnold this year and building like Jim Radar and all this and being involved in all of that stuff, I would really, really like to get to home JimCon. Me too. And I could make that drive, but that's just not going to happen this year for the same reason, which is a bummer. Yeah, that's.

Yeah, that ain't going to happen. Next year. Yeah, there's always next year. I see Home JimCon in my future. Yeah. Probably not this year until, I mean, you guys know the reason why, but until things change a little bit, I do see Home JimCon in my future at some point

because it does sound like a blast. It sounds like that's where I need to be at some point with Keith, you know, just going around being unpaid underrated. I am nervous about this year's. I'm nervous about this year. You're nervous? No, no, in the sense of I want to have the most fun crew time, but like, there's

going to be so many crew, and it's going to be very, very hard to organize, like, a dinner or something, because, like, we, we were not, wasn't, I mean, there was a bunch of us, but there were, I have a feeling there's going to be, like, a hundred crew at home gym. Like, I legitimately think there's going to be a hundred crew at home gym.

You just focus on your reviews. And knowing that Tanner and Tommy aren't going to really be organizing anything. You just focus on touching a equipment to make reviews. Motherfucker, you did the same. I don't want to hear that shit. If I've used it for more than like five minutes or multiple times, I don't care if I

own it or not. Oh, he's going to home gym gone to boost his review. Yeah, that's what I was saying. Yeah, because he said last week, that's what he wanted to do with the Arnold, but didn't want to wait in line. Oh, I missed. Definitely. At the Arnold, not the Arnold episode.

Yeah, maybe not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But no, home gym comes a blast. Yeah, I know. I genuinely can't wait for that. But yeah, this year will be a good time.

So it'll just be, so I'll be the lone wolf at Lips Hardly v. Z this year. Yeah. Probably the lone wolf at home. Hey, Tom will be there and he's me, so it'll all basically be there. I mean, he is one of my favorite, you know, Ohio, Ohioans. Ohioans. Oh, he wins.

It's a good guy. Better taxes. Didn't, you know. What is he? is how many words said, because I think I know what it is, and I think it's time to talk about that. Oh, is that when I... Did anyone do that for us yet?

I think that's when I... So, I think I added that to the show notes because I was like, this is a conversation that I could text Keith, a bunch of stuff, but I'm going to be on the podcast so we can save it for that. Do you have the data in front of you? No, I mean, we could... Oh, you suck.

No, but, yeah. So, what you're asking for, um, one, And you're, and this is a further discussion of just like AI and large language models, but like the concept of a large language model and asking it to count how many words exist in something is like very dangerous because it's not good at that. It's really, really bad at that. But asking it to just go to a podcast and figure out how many words were said on that, you could probably program something around. just go to the transcript and then just counts words on pages. Yes, but it can't do that.

It can't count a fucking word on a transcript. No. No. So for some perspective, Keith, I went and asked chat GPT, how many times has unpaid and underrated talked about wrestling? Can't. It said five. It said based on show notes and things posted to the page,

unpaid and underrated has talked about wrestling five times that simply isn't true it can't be true right so long again AI yeah so and you said another thing

last week that's funny Joey but it's hilarious because it's not true but you are just like you're a large language model not a small language model figure it out and the like which is funny but like the way that large language models work is like using things like context windows is what they're called and so there's only so much like memory that they can have

at a time and the more of the context window that you fill up the more likely it is to like hallucinate and things like that yeah um so you can't like there's getting to be models that are have context windows that are very, very large, but to fit an entire podcast transcript for all of a pot into a context window of a large language model, it's like, it doesn't, it's not, I figured it could scale up because, like, I do all kinds of shit now where I'm like, I have like an image and I'm like, hey, turn this into a document so I can copy it into a spreadsheet or something like that, like, should it do at work when I have to like do just images and stuff. But I guess if we're talking an entire transcript that might be, you know, but it comes back

to the still, it would be cool to know, God damn it. I want to know how many words we say in an episode and multiply that by 150 and that's roughly what we've said. Yeah, so on average, if you Google it, the average like, excuse me, words per minute is between 120 and 160 words per minute. So if you wanted to do some back of the envelope math, that would probably get you closer if you just took the total runtime of the podcast as of now. and then multiplied that by like 120 to 100. You could get a range of probably how many, how many words. I don't need that information. I'm stalling.

I'm stalling for you right now. So you could pull up so that you could pull up the average runtime and we could type it into a calculator, but you didn't pick up on that. So I'll just keep talking about how the average amount of words per minutes is between 120 and 160. I don't know what you want. I'm good.

Can I just, can I just, pull up the website I sent you. Can I just for one second enjoy Nate reminding me of something funny I said? Because that, you're a large language model, not a small language model, figure it out. You're right. It is very funny, but it's also incredibly wrong. And that is such a good, like, version of my joke that I do to people all the time. Right? Like, where you just, like, you hit them with something so,

stupid that they can't counteract it because it is that stupid. Thank you. I forgot I said that. Yeah, I have a buddy who once said, never let the truth get away. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. So

whatever that's worth. When it does some math, I'm going to talk about last week's YouTube video. Oh, he's not going to do that math. Iron, well, he might. Iron Chaplin. It was the Michigan-based gym. I've squeezed it in it before we've recorded. It was in a very small gym, just completely crammed.

Like, you'd love it. It was strong man to the tea, but with some machines, with a wreck, with a Smith, like, 50-year-old dude, you know, just got into strong man a couple years ago. I was only been lifting for like a decade or so, or at least, like, consistently. Older, you know, I think he said just turned 50, so. But it was just cool. It was a lot of stuff packed in there, a lot of tight and stuff, but also mix in with some, like, thousand,

dollar, my, um, some, some, some barto stuff. So it was just kind of funny to see the, the, the, the ying and yang of the gym of like, where you kind of, you know, save a little bit of money and where you kind of splurge. Um, but very good episode. It was one of those, I think my comment, a lot of them are now. It's just like, you know, this is my favorite talking podcast because it was, it was, like, it was, like, the first seven minutes. Uh, and I just really enjoyed that. Because I, I didn't really know the guy that well. I think. And, you didn't really know the guy that well. I think. And, you didn't really know the guy that well. I, I think. I think we're friends on socials, but I hadn't had a whole lot of interactions with him at all. And kind of, you know, get his whole life story damn near in the first five minutes and then kind of see him talk about a gym for the next 40. So I enjoyed it. Yeah, well, I got to watch a little bit about of it. And it was, it was a cool gym. I dig it. And the boys said, like, it was the most dense gym, you know, that they've been, like, there's just so much bad.

And it is crazy. like I I we talk about it on the massonomics podcast but I ran some stats on like size and pieces of equipment and things but so you can listen to that over there um but it is a very incredible fact that they were actually able to like I turned it on and was like these guys aren't going to it's just it's not going to be a walking tour it's just going to be them turning in circles like there's no way that they can like get through that it's essentially it's essentially it's a left side of the gym right side of the gym in a very small middle.

The middle was open, but only because an entire driveway was full of all the shit that goes in the middle. So I think when that gym's not in use, it's just crammed in there. So I don't know what he does in the winter, if he took tarp shit outside or not. But a very compact, very full gym. Well, I think he said something like it wasn't insulated or it wasn't, there was no temperature regulation. And I was like, here in Michigan, like, that's got to be so cold. That would be wild. I was like, I'll give that one to watch because that, that does sound very.

interesting to me yeah the gunner beardson one i did watch that though that was that was an interesting it's that dude's so interesting just that that's the word when you like walk through all that stuff and you see all that equipment and you're just like huh like you just can't wrap your mind around the the oddities that he has in that gym it's like you know it's stuff you've never heard of never seen and i think it was funny like tanner they had the um What's the pneumatic machines? Kaiser? Is it Kaiser?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there was like a whole power rack that was a Kaiser system. And I like, Tanner was, you know, because they're so used to going like people's houses. And he was like, what a weird rack. Because he's, you know, Gunner's like, yeah, we got it from somebody's home gym. They were getting rid of it. And Tanner's like, what a weird piece of home gym equipment. And like, Gunner didn't like say it.

It seemed like he was almost saying it under his breath. He's like, yeah, he's a professional. athlete. Like, it's like, it's so funny. It was just like, yeah, I mean, you know, is that actually the best rack? Probably not. But the dude had probably millions of dollars to spend on his home gym and was like, yeah, I'll just buy this pneumatic power rack that doesn't make any sense.

Like, it was just, that gym doesn't, nothing there makes any sense to me. But I am curious what the conversations with him were like behind closed doors. Dude had a lot of bits, a lot of bits out of that guy. And that was enough time to, uh, to. stult for me to do some math. So the range is between like 2 and 3 million words. So we have 19,000 minutes total. And if we multiply that by 120, we get 2,367,000, 360.

And then if we multiply that by 160, it's 3,156,400,480. So between 2 and 3 million words total. Yeah. You guys talk fast. Because there's times we talk over each other. Those words still count. A transcript would never catch.

So yeah. So I'm saying like there's there's more words spoken than what a transcript probably catches. So that's cool. So minimum three, based off that math, minimum three million words have been consumed in the ears of. anyone that's taken in the full backlog of unpaid and underrated. That's pretty fucking cool to me.

I, on the other hand, find that information useless, and thank you for doing that, Nate. You're welcome. The funny part is, Keith, and this is a whole other thread you can pull on Keith's usage of AI, but the fast way, if you have all of the transcripts of our podcast, the fastest way to find out how many words are in said transcript is to just, run a word count on all of the you just combined all of them into one list of words but

Keith would rather burn up a small lake in some third world country to ask a robot to find that information form when he could use like AI is not a word count like AI doesn't have the ability or you're saying there's a different entity that is quote unquote word count like what is where are you saying word count is like you could try I mean there's different like

I would just do that and then multiply it by 150. Yeah. I mean, if you put a set of words in the program Microsoft Word, it will tell you how many words are in it. And that it, like, you know, so it's just, it's funny because AI has become such a like, oh, I don't know, I'll just put it into AI. And it's like, there's the amount of resources, though, that are used to do the computation in AI. And the fact that it is a solved problem that can be solved instantaneously with almost no power consumption whatsoever. by like copy paste into a word document and looking at it is just really funny to me it was just like it takes so much power to run an l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-oh i was wait it's content i was preparing content he also he also is a lake of water yeah something like that right or something yeah yeah yeah you know how much energy i burned i've got calories on calories on calories we do need to rate Laird last week except

Matt in the Masonomics episode We haven't done that yet No, we for sure didn't And I didn't even I forgot we like until I scrolled back I was like oh there's a whole page of shit we usually talk about we missed We don't have to we okay sure yeah no we do have to read I was kind of putting it off because I'm Which episode was it was they talk? What was the Oh was this the one where they okay no it was I remember it was the one it was I feel like Tanner

I always like joke that I feel Tanner I have a lot in common because like I feel like we get the same thing out of the same content sometimes because like when he was talking to Gunner, though, you know, their title topic this week was, um, uh, the sense,

I can't think of the phrase, but essentially like when you're here, put all the bullshit aside, uh, the equal I, I literally talked about it last week. Equalizer. The equalizer.

Whatever the, whatever the phrase was. Yeah. The equalizer. Yeah. The one we just said four times. No, the name of his gym.

The name of his gym is not that, you fuckers. Common ground. Common ground. Yes. Common ground. is what I was trying to get at. So the equalizer?

The equalized ground. Yeah. So anyway, the fact that like I remember I literally talked about that last week on our podcast and that was their title topic at the same night. So I thought that was cool because technically we talked about that before they did. So for all those reasons and, you know, Tommy, actually Tanner, you know what it was? Tommy was listening live and because he's a big fan of our podcast. He's listening live.

He heard us talking about that. He stole it for their title topic. so I'll go ahead and give it a five out of five Tommy listens. The Equalizer, the 2002 one movie rated a four out of ten on the Glace Search. That's a four out of ten for the Equalizer? No, that's the TV show, The Equalizer with Mary Jane Blige, I think. No, it's right. Yes, no, that was a bad thing.

First of all, like, it's probably, it might be the, it might be, it might be labeled either. It's either the equalizer. Denzel Washington. There's at least two movies. There's three. I would guess I did six. I just said I would guess the first one seven out of seven and the last one's probably a six out of seven. The middle one is probably a seven out of seven.

The equalizer 2014 was a six out of ten. Oh, yeah. Sorry, I was going out of ten, not seven. This isn't a score rating. Number two, he gave a seven. and number three, he gave us six. Interesting. I might have to rewatch the first one because I mean,

they scale better than that. So I'm not perfect. My rating scale is not perfect. So kiss my ass if you don't like it. Yeah. So I'll give this week's podcast a five out of five equalizers. Was this the one where they brought back? Has he seen it?

Yes. In 1985, yes, Tommy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the 1985 genre. And then they went, Like, because, again, I'm going through backlog plus this, plus that. Is this the one where they were, and they were like, wait a second, all these other movies are better that we should have brought up? Yeah. Yeah, they found a different list with actual movies that, like, people have heard of.

Yeah. Well, again, again, we'll go back to it. Tanner's like, I asked Chat GPT for this information, and I was like, what a waste. Yeah, waste the time. You found such a better information somewhere else with a shocker. Yeah, yeah. Great episode. Five out of five back to the future twos.

It's a good movie. I remember, like, we'll find out what he thought of it. Yeah, hit it on the glace skill. Nostalgia movie. A seven. He gave it a seven. So just as good as Equalizer, two. That got better than Equalizer.

One, yeah. I do feel that I would have, like, the looking back if I was, because a lot of times I would like if I get to re-rate stuff on a scale

sometimes that I don't remember Equalizer 1 being worse than Equalizer 2 so I might have to go back and specifically rated out of 7 just for you guys.

Okay, so there is, okay, okay, hold on. I have watched all of the Equalizer movies multiple, multiple, multiple times. I've seen them all once,

that's it. I love those movies. You are probably correct that Equalizer 2 is better than Equalizer 1. You are very likely correct in that. Fair. And Equalizer 3 was weird.

That was the Italy one, right? Yeah. That one was weird. It was different, for sure. I still think they deserve higher ratings than that. Yeah, but regardless, my seven might be a nine in your eyes and vice versa, so I'm happy with it. Yeah, because I'm also like a nine and a four. Like, I don't.

Everything is seven. We make fun of you for that kind of stuff. But, like, for me, if I've watched it more than two times, it's going to a nine. John Wick, the Grey, the Equalizer. All of those movies are probably way higher up. And so, anyway. Nate, do you have a Mastonomic sponsor read

or possibly a Jim Radar sponsor read you'd like to hit the fans with? You don't have to. If something's going to hit the fan right now, Let me tell you. Yeah. Jim Radar, Massanomics, two things that I love very dearly, and that mean a lot to me. I talked about it last night, but there's not, we'll just give a personal testimony.

My ad copy says, shared a personal story, and I'll do that now. About five years ago, I entered a competition in which I lost to, mostly squat videos Matt. And then a month later, I won a competition. It made a silly video and won the Lift Hard, live easy competition back when we weren't just making competitions to allow people to win competitions

and just making things up back when they really meant something. But, you know, after that, I made a website for a podcast that I enjoyed so that you could track how many five-star reviews they had. And, you know, on and on the story goes, did tons of things for this little dinky company. You know, my friends and family would say, do you work for them? Why are you doing all of these stupid things?

And just, you know, more or less poured into a brand and a group of people that I've grown to love and care about. And I was graced, you know, if you work hard enough kids someday, you'll get to ignore your family for months on end and build the coolest website that exists for home gym equipment and everything to do with gyms. And so that's massonomics. It's a place where dreams can come true, where you can make silly videos and make bingo websites for podcasts. And eventually someday they'll text you while you're taking your kids to Costco and say, can you get on a phone call and have a secret conversation with us so that we can build

something really cool with you. And that's Masonomics in a nutshell. Actually, it's just my story. But your story could be like that too. So what I'm telling you is right now, go make that video. Go be that influencer. Tap your fingernails on the barbells of life and

influence your life into the correct direction. And that direction is massanomics.com slash join. I think my favorite part of that is of all the accomplishments that you named. Not one of them was producing this very podcast. Oh, yeah, I also did that.

200 people a week listen to. I have two things. One is more of a joke because I don't want you to answer it. But FMK, Jim Radar, Masonomics, and Unpayton, and I'm paying it to rate it. Don't answer that. But also, I'd kill. I'd kill. No, it's just kidding.

No, but like, so think about the timing, though. Like, Jim Radar wouldn't exist the way it exists today if they were, I'm not going to do the big math, but somewhere between seven and nine months in either direction of, you have on your kid. Like, if you had a newborn right now, like so in October when they reached out to you, whatever, if you had the newborn then, there's no way you were making Jim Radar, period.

It was really funny on the second phone call I had with them, I think. And we only had like three or four phone calls, I think overall. But I was like, oh, also, just so you guys know, it's really early, my wife was like eight weeks pregnant, but I was like, my wife is pregnant, by the way. And they were like, oh, no. And I was like, oh, don't worry. It's early.

She's actually sleeping a lot, which makes this way easier to get stuff done. Love you, Kailene. Yeah. She's sleeping a ton. So she'd fall asleep at like 7 o'clock on the couch. I'd put all the kids to bed, and I just worked tirelessly. So it worked out all right there. But yeah, it is crazy.

I mean, you look at the whole thing. Like, you know, I wanted them in some video to be like from the producers of taitsounds.com. It's like the track record of like, from what it was to where I am and what I got to build now, it's like, it doesn't make any sense to me. Like, it's, I'm very, I'm incredibly grateful that I would be considered to, like, build something like this and given the opportunity. So it's really cool, but it's, it's so funny that it's like, oh, what, what, what's your,

what's your resume look like? And there's, you know, professional stuff, but it's like, oh, I made a bingo website. I did some sound boards. Like, this doesn't make any sense that they trust me with this. But, you know, Tanner was like, oh, that's the reason, you know, we thought you could do this. And I was like, I'm glad that a soundboard for Dave Tate made you think I could build like this incredibly complex system. So, yeah, it's really cool. Jam Radar's really cool.

I'm really, really thankful for the opportunity. One thing we forgot to mention on the podcast last night that I texted Tommy about that he razzed me about when he realized it was true. Um, but when we, when I start, when they asked me to start working on Jim Radar, um, I had had not had a Macintosh that was modern for, um, years, like maybe fourish years. I, like, I had an old I Mac that was from like 2014, uh, that I was using. Um, and the way that I built like, uh, Glaze search and all, a lot of these like little random apps is I built them from an 11, inch iPad Pro with an attached keyboard and I would use, and this is kind of nerdy, but I would use VS code. They have the ability to use it, which is like the code editor I use from a website. And it was the worst way ever to write code. It constantly broke, didn't work.

The UI would shift around. I built so many apps doing that. And they were like, hey, we want you to build this thing. And I started it on an iPad, sort of building the whole thing from this like, incredible incredibly janky system. And then I realized I needed to get a real computer. And when I was talking to Tommy about this, he was like, wait a second, you just got this, like, MacBook for this?

And I was like, yeah. And he's like, does that mean that Keith had a better computer than you for like a few, like months on end? And I was like, yeah, I guess. I was like, I had computer. Like, I had acts. I just didn't need it for what I was doing. So I didn't want to spend the money. Because I got everything done through other systems, but I was just like, yeah, we could say that, I guess.

Because keep that the nice new MacBook Pro. Got them. But yeah, it was really funny when I was like, ah, we should have brought that up on the episode. But we could do that here. Yeah. Anything else sticking out that didn't get chatted about last night that you wanted to, you know, shed light on? I don't know. A lot of people were just asking for, like, behind the scene stuff.

But I mean, I'm sure you covered anything they wanted to share last night for the most part. But, you know. Well, I don't know. We just, we talked about. just stuff and you know Tanner and Tommy asked about like um you know what was it like working with us like they asked like I don't know how to answer that it was like it was good they're like I mean I've done a lot of like contract work with people um over the years uh but not so much now um at the company I work for because it's all just like we're building our own internal

products that we sell but like back when I worked for more or less Xerox like you know I was I ran sales support develop like I did everything for that company to and so interface with tons of customers all the time and I'll tell you Tanner time of the best customers I've ever worked with I'd imagine

it was great working with them they're they're very they're very great to work with incredibly generous and kind so and that's you know that more or less what I shared there but it's just it is

when I think about it, the only thing I can think about is just like how grateful I am to like get to to like, you know what I mean? Like there's something that's happening and when you're like, hey, would you want to do this with us? It's like, I'm honored that you would even consider. Like there's, you know, I've already said it, but it's just how else can you feel but it's just like grateful that, you know, you've been asked to be a part of something really cool. And that mean, like, I'm walking through the Arnold and I just want to be like, go up to equipment manufacturer like, hey, do you know Jim Radar? That was me. It's pretty cool. Like, you should check

it out. Like, you know what I mean? But it's just, it's really cool to see. And I think we talked about this a little bit last night, but they asked what they played, you know, least fun, most fun with us with me. And, you know, I was, I was like, what, they're like, what's least fun most part? And part about Jim Radar.

And I was like, the most fun part is like getting to see people use it. And like, people using it, not just like to climb leader boards and leave reviews, but like people being like, this really helped me, uh, find what I was looking like and I've been used like I want to find a bench that I like and I can go through and find benches that people are using and see like legitimate reviews and it is incredibly helpful as a tool for finding gym equipment and even like just going on there and

um top secret we added a feature that wasn't really talked about anywhere but if you are on gyms and you go to the advanced filters on the gym explore page at the very bottom now you can sort by country and then also state province, whatever. Oh, dope. So if you just, so outside, you're not featured on the CTF map, but if you're looking just for like gyms in Ohio, if they're not CTFs, you can also see that. And just like going through there and like looking at like random countries.

It's so cool. Like just like looking through like all of these unique gyms and everything that exist all over the world. It's so cool and rewarding that I got to build a thing that people use. And I feel that way even, I built hate sounds and like 50 people used it. And I was like, this is the coolest thing ever. Like there are a thousand registered users or whatever on Jim Radar. And I'm like, that's insane to me that like people want to use a thing that I got to build.

It's super cool. You know, so, you know, people listen to this podcast. Insane. People, you know, say, hello, I like you. When they see me at the Arnold, doesn't make any sense. life doesn't make sense as I guess the end all be all like great like people just come

and it's every time I've been in the Arnold like when Shelby recognized us at the barefoot booth and it's like oh you're Nathan and I was like why do you know who I am like this doesn't make any sense to me so yeah it's all just it's very cool I just want to see

people use it enjoy it I want it to be used for good like I like the stances that we have. Yeah, I don't want it to be used to like beat other people down or to like make other people. Like I want to just to be a good place to be. And you guys have done pretty good at like bringing that in, right? Like that's you can't see who follows you.

You can't see who likes you, all that kind of stuff. That's that's really good. Yeah. And it's hard to balance that because people really do want it. And it's something we see people request a lot. It's like I want to I want to like people's. gyms and I want to know who like and I'm like do you though like I think you do but it's not good for you yeah I don't want um yeah I'm again but there's there's features that um we've been talking about

rolling out that I think will help with that sort of desire but we're going to try to balance it in a way that doesn't make it bad um so give people the opportunity to to to maybe interact more and do things but not try to stay away from is this a good deal or just like, I don't like you. Like just avoiding that kind of vibe. But people, that's the thing.

Like, people are like, I left reviews for every single piece of equipment I've ever used in my life. I want more to do on this website. So that, I mean, that is,

it is very difficult because you can go the social media route and just make it bad and people will stay on it forever. But you don't want to do that. And sometimes I don't think people, it's with great, it's Spider-Man,

with great power. becomes great responsibility. And, you know, as this grows, it is a great responsibility. Like, if we become the sole piece of information about home gym equipment, like, that is a terrifying responsibility. You know what I mean? To, like, maintain that. There will always be some diversity.

There will always be other. But, I mean, even if you just get, like, a 5% segment of the market or even a 1% segment of the market, I'm not, I'm not saying, like, the home gym, like, like, there's, there's hundreds of thousands of people that out there, if not millions of people out there that might not ever stumble across it. And that's fine. We're still going to have thousands of people on it. I think that's still pretty badass. But Stephanie actually was on it today for the first time by looking, listening to watching the video with me, well, she was on her phone, listening to the video while I was watching it for, you know, pre-show work. And the Iron Chaplin dude was

really doing a good job selling it up and talking about wish lists. And I think Tanner was asking about wish list specifically, which I will, I will suggest or we can, we can make any list in the world, which is awesome. But I think it would be cool to have a dedicated Jim Raider, like, sponsored wish list that actually is just like separate from list because I don't know, because I have like, I have like five lists. So if I want to go find my wish list, I have to like circle through my other list. I'm like, I just want my wish list to be like a dedicated, like, icon thing. But I don't know. I digress with that. But Stephanie was on it and was like, oh, cool, this is your wish list. And because I have like 60 things on there that are like,

my maybe wish list. Then I had to like tell her like, well, like, don't just like randomly buy something off this wish list. Like, like ask me first, but this is like a baseline of like random things I might want someday.

Yeah. And that's the thing I like about, um, using Jim Radar is like when you start looking through gyms, you just see cool things that you've never seen before. Or like things that you forgot about. And you're like, oh I have and I just like click it add the list and it,

it'll just go. And it's, you know, you can create systems for all of that. Like, I could have, I've had, like, Apple notes and stuff or, like, oh, here's cool things that I like that I've seen online that, you know, I can put together if someone wants to buy me something I have. Like, here's some, like, cool things. I won't buy for myself, but, like, you know, whatever, weird tech thing or, like, a cool keyboard toy, something like that. But I really just like going through and find that all being in one place.

And, like, oh, also, when I want to buy that, I can go back and, like, look at the roof. Like I can look and see, oh, I did like that. Who has that? What have they said about it? Like, there is like, it's insane that it all is in one place. The people that built this must be just amazing. I did chuckle today. Not to spill too much pre-show grease, but it sounds like the strong arm sport deadlift bars for the lift hard of easy aren't going to be a thing.

But Tanner had preemptively added him to his radar as something he owned because he had ordered him. Yeah. I think you might need to take those off, Tanner. Yeah. Yeah. We talked about that last night of just, like, part of Jim Radar is it is, like, incredibly unbiased from, like, the ownership perspective. And Tanner was just, like, even, you know, companies that we don't like or, like, don't

want to ever do business with again, whoever they are, they're on there. And, like, we don't touch it. We can't, we don't affect the score. Like, it is just there and it is the people's voice. Yeah, but that, and that's. And that's so much of the internet is it's just like, it's one person's opinion. And so that is,

that's the differentiation. But yeah, I don't know, behind the scenes, I was trying to think of something else, some, some good grease or anything. It's a lot of equipment on there.

We are, so we are running at over two hours. So I think I'm going to bring this a little bit into a different direction. A lot of, a lot of the time, um, in the post show grease, people seem to get a little bit of a like behind the scenes what we're planning what we're doing so i wanted

to ask you guys specifically is there anything you want to talk about with the future of unpaid and underrated i mean like i can talk about um you know sometimes we have surprise guests we have celebrity guests i have nothing lined up i'll be honest with everybody there uh there is one like sometimes we do this we're not going to yeah there's one that i was working on and then it just kind of fell off. Keith, I think you know who that was. Yeah, no,

that's someone I could have got. I was just, there's people I, I know that I could get on, but I'd have to, like, beg them to get on. Like, like, if they're not a loyal,

like, there's a lot of people that are in crew that are just, like, friends, Tanner and Tommy, and not necessarily, like, into the crew stuff that we do. So, yeah, and we've had bad experience

with some of those guests. And even if they're personal friends, I don't know, but, um, as far as... That one in particular, a lot of people said would be a good idea.

So I did chase that pretty hard while you were, I think, at the Arnold. And we could get him on if we really wanted to, but it'd be like a very short episode probably. And it just wouldn't be the episode that we normally do. I don't know. We'd take it offline. But as far as future things, I mean,

I'm really happy with what we do. I love our format. I love that I'm like scheduled three months out right now because I just take a whole layer of stress off and just like, that's why I was like, the other day we were like, oh, can we squeeze this person? I'm like, I really can't unless they just want to join for a pre-show and dip out. Like, or it's got to be a bonus episode, but then we're pushing the whole schedule around.

I'm not trying to deal with that. So it's like, I love the auto, I love that we almost have it an autopilot, but we're still producing a very awesome thing. Autopilot in the sense of like, I just like bulk schedule and then don't have to worry about it for a month because it's anxiety. It runs like a well-oiled machine at there. It does. It does. And it functions and we all serve our purpose and we know what to do. and it just keeps running.

But an episode like this was fun. I have dabbled with the idea of like wanting to get older guests on more, but then it's like, I don't want to, people don't really need a whole new episode because then it's like, we're just going to rehash the same stories. But like, I did bring up somebody who I do want to bring back.

Yeah. We won't say who that is. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That person, I think, has been, it's one of the OGs, as you would call them. Well, yeah. And that person wouldn't mind coming back. possibly or even just talking to us offline.

Yeah, I'm fine with that. Which is really cool. But I did tell that person that, yes, you are welcome to jump on an episode, have a whole episode to yourself. I'll get you the schedule. And it's things like that that we should be doing. We can do many episodes even. Like, just know that it's going to be like an hour episode. Because we don't need to, we don't need to dive into your whole life.

But then it's like, is that what the fan? I almost want. So the crew, you've been amazing. You've literally been blowing. up unpaid underrated or, you know, whatever our chat name is on Massonomics Discord for, you know, each week now. So let us know, what do you think specifically about getting older guests, getting previous guests on for like a shorter episode, more of a life update. Like, I don't know. Like, can we do it? Can we have fun? Yeah. But then it's almost more work on us because

we have to have more general topics every time because it's like, there's not going to be a whole bunch of new stuff to talk about. And like maybe like two years from now, I don't know. like I like that idea, but it's also like I don't see how it would work out when we still have like, like, I have a hundred people that I could get scheduled right now, like probably like like I want to give those people their shot, but also. But so and with the defense of that is if the older crew want to get on, they have every, all they have to do is say, hey, I have an idea for an episode. I'm going to run it. This is what it's going to be. Fuck yeah, do it. Do it. We have like three to four opportunities every year that you guys can do that. So if you haven't and you wanted to be on, it's kind of on you. Like, like do it. Come to. Come. Come. to us with a great, with, it doesn't even have to be a good idea, just an idea and a team and put it together. That should be a good idea. I'll say it. We've had some, I've had bad pitches.

I don't know. Like, do better and just, I don't know, like, we, yeah, let's not get into that too much, but like, do someone else's best. I just think we've had bad. We've had bad pictures towards each other. It was like, I remember Keith's sending a screenshot in the group chat and Nate's exact response. was what? No.

But for the most part, like, we still love everybody. I want you guys to be on here, but like it had we've, we've built, I mean, I'm not going to say, we've built a good brand, if you will,

like, yeah, people expect some quality consumption every Tuesday, not just, you know, so if you're going to bring up some episode, like, it's not hard.

I mean, I'm not saying it's not hard, but like the fact that the proof is in the pudding. The proof is in the pudding. We've had at least 10 episodes in the, past three years that have been crew ran with the help of you know Nate probably did a lot more than he probably could have, you know, the other people could be putting more into it, you know, I'm just saying like, if you have a good idea and you like it and you think it'll last,

even just give us an hour. If you can have an hour of talking and you think it's a good idea, like we'll give you the platform, you know, because we need the time off every now and then. So bring us some good ideas and we'll let you get around with it. But as far as other other new things, I don't know. Like, I like, I like the idea. I like, I like repetition. Like what we're doing works good right now.

I don't want to break it. No. But I do know. Sorry, missed it. Missed it. Missed it. Where is it? Oh, there's my mouse.

Change no. Can't have change. But can we morph into something else if we needed to? Probably. Like tonight was really fun. But we also haven't talked like this with each other. Like this was, could we build up new topics like this to talk about for two hours every week or every month?

I still had more. Yeah. So, I mean, we can sprinkle these in more often. But also, Nate's always busy. and it's never available. But this is also, too, so a topic then, so you and I,

once every six months, can get a random guest on, but have them, and all, you know, like we could have who we were talking about earlier or even just go down the list. And the episode isn't about them.

They just join us for a 90 minute general topics. Yeah. But they're not the guest. Like, they're the guests in the sense of there's the third person there that week. Yeah. But they're the co-host.

We're not really like going into their life again, necessarily, because if you've already been around, you've heard all that. So I don't know. But what are you? I'm curious of what other people's ideas are because this is a trifecta here. We're not a, we're a three-man team.

Are you asking us for ideas or the crew? Oh, no, sorry. Well, I thought the whole one I said, the three-man team and a trifecta that you got the hint that I'm talking about the other two people here. Like I said earlier, Cruz's ideas aren't always good. I didn't want this to be about me and Keith and Nate. I always said that this wasn't supposed to be about the three of us,

but there is some people that want to hear from. us. And I think that doing these, I know you're saying every six months, I think every three, two, three months is probably worth it where we just... Once a week. Once a week. We record a second episode. Yeah.

We release it on Patreon. On Saturday afternoons. Keith's favorite time. But ultimately, yeah. I wouldn't mind doing this a little more often. I think just having fun with each other. That way it takes some of the pressure. off. Like, I really enjoyed leaving work and not having to go stare at the show notes and explore

somebody's Instagram and do all of that shit that I normally do on a Thursday afternoon. I got to go buy my energy drinks and come home. It was wonderful. Uh, so, like, I don't mind doing that more than once every six months. I think every two to three months. But again, the crew can tell us that if this episode sucked, tell us, uh, also, if you're even listening at this point, because it's like two and a half hours in. We're wrapping up, boys. Ladies and listeners, I'm saying. I was warning.

Boys, bice. Were you done? I'm sorry, I meant to cut you off. In six weeks, we have the opportunity to do something, like, whatever we want, because we're going to do the three-year episode. So hopefully Nate has it on his calendar, because I think it'd be fun. He does now, based on that phase. No, you know about that, didn't you?

Why don't you put that an outlook for me? Why don't you just say me a little? Oh, put that in a team. put that in the teams. Yeah, can you put that in the teams check? Make sure you update slides. May 7th, May 7th may be available. We're going to do something.

I think I've already asked the crew for suggestions and I don't know, maybe, maybe suggest that again, but we can just do this again and six in five weeks. So, but I don't know, something, maybe that would be the good episode to play, like, guess, guess what crew did what is a three-year anniversary thing. But that seems that's a lot of work for someone to put together. I'm not doing it. because Joey and I need to be the guessers, not the person hosting it,

but it's a lot to put on Nate. So anyone listening that wants to take that huge, uh, task on, be part of the three year episode. Oh, I like that. We have a cycling game where everybody gets,

like crew members get to pick a game and they get to show up on the podcast and play a game with us for the three year anniversary. So if you have like multiple like just. Yeah. Like Jen can come in with her game. Sorry. Someone else can come in with her game. That's, I like that.

The next level. The next level is we, a big thing, and this is like, would be a lot, but we need, I think there's some people in the crew that could do it. But a, like, guided D&D episode with like a set. It's a big, it's a huge, there's tons of podcasts out there that are like just D&D campaigns. if someone could create like a one hour crew massonomics lifting

like D&D style campaign I think that would or just we'll just put that if anyone wants to come up with that concept I think it would be hilarious so just you know put that in your I've never really played D&D maybe like once in my life so

but I know that's like a huge thing that people do like for example one of the biggest sports podcast you know you guys joke about it One of the biggest sports podcasts in the world does it once a year now, where they do a D&D set of episodes. So it's like... And the dungeon is the Lift Hard Live Easy.

And like every turn you make, like you run into a different crew that you have to... It would be. Yep, I see it. I'm already envisioning it. I'm not going to do it, but I'm already envisioning. I know... I know someone out there has it

and loves being a dungeon master and all of those things, and this is right up the rally. So it's your time to shine. Nerds. It would be great, yeah. We're calling the nerds. Call on the nerds.

May 7th is the, when we'll be recording said episode of some sort. Which you don't have a lot of time to figure it out. So we've really given you. What you guys want to do with this? Because if not, we're just going to shoot the shit for another hour. I don't know, like that night.

Two and a half hours. Anyway. I'll just get Huck Finn on and talk to them. All right, boys. Get him to show some stars. Yeah, man. Assuming, are we good? I think we're, I think everything,

let's round this down. I'm exhausted. Yep, we're going to be. You can find me, literally all over the internet. You can find me at floral designs by K.com. If you're in the Akron area, the Northeast Ohio area, or if you live really far away and want to pay for our travel to set up your wedding, you want to meet me and you're like, man, I want to meet Nathan.

How do I get to my house? Book a wedding with Floral Designs by K. Just not in June. Yeah, just not in June, like that one wedding that we are doing in June. But that's fine. You can find me there. You can find me at the Eckberg Family Training Club on Jimradar.com. You can see all of my equipment that I have maybe.

I don't know if I've even, if this isn't even accurate, you know, something about the painter's house has never painted or something like that. You can find me there. You can find me our friendly neighborhood, Glac search on Instagram. I considered changing my Instagram name, but I was afraid of the ramifications, but I was really thinking about technical guy, technical guy Nate on Instagram. I feel like that I might have finally earned that Instagram handle.

Yeah. Keith will hate you for changing your handle, though. No, it's not. Yeah, and I don't think I could handle that personally, so no pun intended. But, yeah, find me at those places. Yeah, I'll be there. And also, I'm bricking my phone for,

majority of the day. If you get my phone number, text me, if you want to talk to me, if you're doing me on Instagram, it'll take me days to see you. So that's all, folks. Big Jerry, where are you up? Joey underscore Malesco, M-L-E-C-Z-K-O on the Instagram or the DILF dungeon on Jim Radar. There you go. We are unpaid underrated podcast on Instagram. We get the website, Unpaid Internpodcast.com. Go talk to us on the U&U channel on the Massonomics Discord. I am Keith Honeycutt 73 on Instagram. More importantly, go follow my orange gym,

the no wine cellar. Until then, we'll see you next Tuesday. Two years ago today, we all lost a good friend from the crew. He had some, you know, so if anyone's ever having any mental health struggles or thoughts of anything self-harm related,

please reach out to somebody. I know, we might not know, you know, exactly what you're going through, but everyone can be an ear to listen to and a shoulder to lean on, etc so some drastic permanent solutions aren't always the answer or never the answer so no yeah that's yeah i was listening to uh uh uh a concert today from the band called haywire the boston hardcore band um and i watch a lot of live shows or whatever but one of the songs usually he'll pick just like a random song to say it in front of but usually in their shows

he's like Austin the front man's always just like find the person uh that you like came here with and just give him a hug and just tell him you love them uh and it's it's so crazy because it's like a big mossy like stage divey show but that's like he makes a point to do that at every every show is just like find someone tell him you love them tell them you're thankful for him um and just uh take care of those around you and he's like you know what we don't have to do this every day but for like the next two three days tell people you love them that are in your life so that's uh my challenge from Haywire to you, tell someone you love them,

support crew. If you need something, reach out. We're all here. We love you. I'm going to start crying, so I got to wrap this up. I think I'm crying.

so much fun. I can't wait to do it again. And I can't wait to do that again with you for however long this goes on. I've got three more years on us. I got the, I'm going to podcast for the rest of my natural. Yeah, we know. It's going to be me just talking about Jim Radar to myself. I wait to the gym when I touch this and then I got extra points. I have four million points on Jim Radar. Hopefully everybody got to listen to this post show, and we'll see you next Tuesday, boys. I'm going to bed. Good night, world. Hong, hon.