Unpaid And Underrated - 152 : Cookies, Creatine, and Memes (ft. Big Andrew)

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Andrew They dive right into great topics like cats, is Ohio the in the midwest, bamboo, and scrap yards. Links Ü&Ü Hoodie Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab Get Your Own Keith Head Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast Our Guest On Instagram @instalessvano Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar @joey_mleczko Special Guest: Big Andrew.

Whoa. There's a goblin here. Oh, God. To fire that guy. Nah, I want to let him join for a little bit of general topics? Sure. I'll do this. Not a goblin.

I'll do that. It's just a regular math. And welcome back to episode 474 of the unpaid and underrated podcast, a podcast by crew for crew. I'm one of your host, Big Clee. Wow, my name. I don't know how to say it. Big Cliff.

Big Cui. I think, or cleave, I don't know. I don't like that name. Well, yeah, welcome back. Episode 474 of the unpaid and underrated podcast. I'm Big Keith, joined as always here by Big Joey. I got a point out. Oh, yeah.

Nate, might have to edit that out. You did one, two, three. I don't do that name. In show business. Did you not see Wain's World? Is it 3, 2, 1? It's 5, 5, 4, 3. Wayne's World, they're like that.

Yeah, but then you, like, you don't. I don't know, man. I am. Hi, everybody. I'm Big Joey. I'm one of those. We are not professionals. We are not professionals.

We do have a gag of the geese here for the pre-show. We're going to try it out. There's an impromptu. We got Big Matt Sanchez and Big Dr. Jake's going to join us here just for a little bit of the pre-show. Well, the pre-show slash general topics. But the guest this week, Big Andrew. He's not the guest. He's not here yet.

That's true. Well, somebody will show up. Is this your first podcast? We always. say who the fucking guest is in the intro. No, we introduce them as part of the crew here for general topics. I might not say the... Then we call them as

the guest later. We are joined by there's a lot of people here. Someday we will never have video, but, uh, so you'll figure it out. Just listen to the voices. You know who's here. Anybody drinking anything? Anybody drinking anything fancy? Nope.

It's out. Ramblers. Rambler man. What flavor? I do like, I do like a rambler. I've got lemon lime, grapefruit, and then for the end I have Oh, you really are going to be in that sink. Oh, I am. It's a crumbullberry

vanilla cinnamon honey, blueberry ale. That sounds awful. We will see how that goes. Yeah, that sounds awful. It might be a one-sip wonder. I see you got a fridge sig over there, Jake. That's right. A refrigerator, what did I call it?

Refrigerator cigarette. To match his scrub, scrub. So Big Jake's wearing a scrub top. Do you don't wear all like a t-shirt or anything? or anything, you just go straight, like, scrubs on, like, nipples and chest? Sometimes.

Sometimes if I'll wear a cutoff shirt or, you know, my, I can't believe it's not meth t-shirt if I want to be a little spicy. Well, my wife, my wife worked at the hospital a while, well, several years ago, and they had, like, the cheapest, shittiest scrubs, and she had to wear them because it was like a surgical thing, and they were the worst scrubs ever. So I was just imagining, like, how good or bad those scrubs are and, like, how irritating that would be on bare skin, potentially. I think my biggest point of contention is do they not make them in your bicep size?

That is, wow. Yeah, do you actually have them rolled up a little bit? It looks like ripping at the seams. By I sat down, yeah. Do they not at least let you cut the sleeves off? That is not fitting you at all, sir. I wish they'd let me cut the sleeves off. That'd be a lot more functional.

He can tailor those to fit. Those are, he did that on purpose, shelf the arms. Those are actually long sleeve. James are just that big. He was doing a ton of pull-ups and curls before we hit live. Matt, I see you're wearing goblin mode. Goblin mode. It is Goblin Appreciation Month, April.

That's why I'm here. Is that true? Is that a thing somewhere? Me and Gary both said it, so it's true. Okay. I don't know about that. We'll see. All right.

What do we got? That's mostly what we're wearing. Well, Jake, we may not have Jake that long, so we haven't get into your MRI story, probably, Joey. Okay. Okay, Jay's got to bounce. sure I how long do you have Jake oh I'm off I'm here for how just chilling the hospital on the Wi-Fi nice just chilling all right I am wearing massonomics is numero uno because apparently I got this

shirt for the first time four years ago and it came up in my memories and I was like you know what I'm gonna rock that because now I lost a bunch of weight and it fits again nice um yeah sure we can talk about the MRI because we have a we have a doctor on Um, so I had an MRI this week. And I've had MRIs before, one on my knee. Not afraid of MRIs. I'm not claustrophobic. Like, I'm not afraid of the noise.

I know what's going on. Whatever. And they're asking me all these questions. Do you have any allergies? Do you ever had? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, nope, nope, nope, nope. Not afraid at all.

Like, just hook me up. So they put an IV in. And they said, for the last two photos, we have to put a dye into you. and some people have reactions to that dye. And I was like, oh, I've never had a reaction in my life. So I will be fine. So I'm in there and they're doing all their photos and I'm holding my breath and letting my breath out and then breathing normally. I'm doing all the stuff you're supposed to do in an MRI.

And they said, okay, we're about to take the last two pictures. There's only three minutes left. We're going to inject the dye. Your arm will feel cold. And I'm literally in this MRI thinking I'm going to leave here and go to the gym. That was my thought. I was like, oh, I'm going to be done in record time. I'm going to the gym.

So the dye goes in, my arm goes cold, and I start laughing because, yeah, it does. Your whole arm just goes cold. And then they said, okay, hold your breath. And I held my breath. And then things didn't feel right. I started unable to breathe, started convulsing. So I squeezed the emergency thing. And they said, is everything okay?

And I said, no, no, I'm nauseous. And they said, there's only one picture left. Keep going. Okay. So I go to hold my breath and I can't. So I squeeze the thing again. They said, what's up? And I said, I'm going to throw up.

So suddenly there's hands on my shoulder. They're pulling me out. I threw up whatever. Like I hadn't eaten in four hours. I was sick as hell. Covered in hives. Red, shaking. Luckily, I didn't like go into shock or anything like that.

Mentally, I went right into shocks. I've never had anything like that before. So, yeah, then they wouldn't let me leave for about half an hour until they knew that I was okay. So as it turns out, I'm allergic to diagnostic dyes. It's like the first allergy I've ever really had. And it's really fun to be allergic to your own blood for six minutes. That's an interesting perspective to have. I did not go to the gym.

I left an eight. I had a hamburger with bacon on it because I needed calories because I haven't eaten in four or five hours. But yeah, so that's my MRI story. Any input there, Jake? There's a game we like to play. Relatively commenting. We come across and we have to, yeah, we screen most people for that. And then, especially in the hospital because, like, you can do MRI is not the only one.

There we go. MRI is not the only one that you can use contrast with. But yeah, it's a pretty common thing. That's similar reaction of hives or even like anaphylaxis where you can't breathe. And so sometimes depending on how important it is to get the images, will pre-treat people or even just be on standby with the epinephrine ready to go. If somebody does go into anaphylaxis, but yep, something I've seen before for sure. They took great care of me.

I have zero complaints. But it was just one of those things where like, so they wheeled me out. out and I sat up. I didn't want to lay down anymore. And then they're like, we're going to put you on like a real stretcher. Like, we have to take you out of this room and put you on a real stretcher. And I was like, okay. And I go to get up and they're like, what's the matter with you?

And I was like, I'm fine. Like physically I was fine after a few minutes. And they're like, no, we're going to bring it over and you're just going to roll onto it. And I was like, that seems harder than me getting up and climbing on it. Yeah. Yeah. You're that one if it falls. Yeah, of course, which I understand.

But in my head at the time, I was like, but I'm fine. Like, I'm a little shaky, but I can walk over there. Yeah. And then they, so they put me in this little, like, dark room. And they're like, do you want to, are you okay? Like, you look sleepy. And I was like, yeah, yeah, that was a lot. And they're like, do you want to have a nap?

And I was like, I'd really like to call my wife. But in my, like, at the same time, you're like, why? Like, hey, honey, I'm fine. is not the call she wants to get. She's like, I didn't know nothing was, nothing was fine. Like, what's happening? That's a conversation you don't have with her

until you're already home and like, in her possession and safe, basically. Yeah, essentially. You don't worry her for three hours. I called her on the way out, but I was just like, my initial reaction is to tell my wife. I had a reaction, but I'm fine.

But like, she doesn't know any of that. Yeah. Right? So, yeah, that's my MRI update. That was unpleasant. Keith got a little bit of that. Morgan got some. of that. I've been mentally drained for two days because of it. Physically, I'm fine.

But mentally, that took a lot at me, a lot at me. Well, hopefully, you don't have to get one of those again for a while. And whenever they saw, they can, you know, get you fixed up. Well, they did say they might have to do another one. And then I said, nope. And they're like, well, we'll do it at the place that has better emergency stuff. And I'm like, nope, I'll die. Whatever you're looking for can kill me. I don't want to do that again, thanks. let's move on from that that was a different story but like we've got this game we like to play right we i don't share a lot about my personal life morgan pointed this out recently that like

keith shares a lot about his personal life and that makes him fair game for a lot of jokes and i i don't like i'll talk about nerds if i had told that story like i mean it may it happen to you but i'd have like a thousand memes of me like shitting myself in an MRI machine and like freaking out and it would just be like the most like kicking me why i'm down kind of a scenario. She pointed out, she's like, he shares a lot. You don't. You share like your thoughts and your nerd stuff, but like you don't share a lot about your

personal life. So they go. I am human too. There you go. But that call is always tricky. Oh, yeah. I had one where I called my wife and just said, hey, I'm going to the hospital and then didn't talk to her again.

Oh, no. And you're still married. Yeah. That's still married. She's a good woman to put up with that shit. She is. How that couch feels? for a month because I probably wasn't the best sleep.

Oh yeah. Luckily we didn't live in the same place so I can sleep in my nice comfy bed. Oh, there you go. I called her on the way out and I started with so and she was like, oh no, it's cancer. You're dying. I was like, no, God. No, no, none of that.

Start with this. Not cancer. My body doesn't like contrast. That's all. Yeah, that's it. It was still scary but like it's not that scary yet. it is weird to find out that you're allergic to something and not realize it because like it's kind of like when I found out that I was kind of like lactose intolerant I thought that's just the way you're supposed to fill after eating ice cream I thought it was like no way it's that good without a cost yeah like that's just the way you're supposed to fill out of ice cream not the same thing but it yeah I get what you're saying yeah well yeah allergic to my own blood for six minutes was a very different perspective same same but different yeah they're They've got like all these monitors on me and they're like calling doctors and stuff from other rooms. And I'm just like, I am fine.

Like leave me alone for a second. And they're just like, no, no, absolutely not. Give me a cheeseburger. I'll be good. Oh, I downed three glasses of water in 30 seconds because I was so thirsty. Nice. Well, I, uh, been on the, I'm definitely getting ready for Lift Hard Levisy this summer. And I was on the fence because there's a few different other strongman shows locally, um, that I could have signed up for basically in the next few weeks.

to the month. And I was like, man, I really want to do a show when I'm only like 16 weeks out. So that, you know, I'm like, you know, I don't get a lot of. I mean, I'm not getting any younger. I was on the fence for a while. And then I was just kind of like, I did a couple run-throughs for Dan Eager's show in Syracuse. And I was like, I can do all these weights. Let's do it. So I ended up signing up for the Dan actually is pretty cool. He has an intermediate class. So it's like novice plus, if you will. So all the weights are kind of like in my wheelhouse where I should be able to hit everything, but maybe not finish every event. So pretty excited. that's in two weeks from this weekend, basically. So that'll be a very short prep.

Not really even, again, I mean, I'm just going to hit events a couple times and kind of just go in. And then I'll think when that's over, I think with a week off and then counting the delode prior to Lyft Hard, I think I'll still have like a 10 or 12 week prep. So so shouldn't affect Lift Hard Live Easy and just gives me another opportunity to compete locally. So stay tuned for, you know, probably two weeks from now. I should have a little recap on that. But that's my, it's my strong man update. If you see me doing any prep right now, kind of out of the blue after telling everyone in my coach,

just like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm just going to walk in do Lift Hard Live Easy. And then, like, a week later, I'm like, so I'm going to do this other Strongman show real quick. I just have some fun with the boys because, I don't know, I just, there's a few of my friends are doing it. And, you know, one of my good buddies is putting it on. So it's like, why not? So this should be fun. Speaking of that, I have a Strongman Sunday scheduled with Big Cam at the Dam garage in May. And he now has all the implements except for obviously the surprise one for the Lift Hard Levisy.

So we're actually going to be doing a bit of a run of the Liveda Lovizi at his place. There you go. Yeah. He sent me that picture today. He had a big 400-pound tire or something stupid. Nice. Yeah, I used to have a tire. I got rid of it, but I mean, he flipped the tire once.

It should kind of come back to me. But I'm not looking forward to, we'll see how heavy they are. Not looking forward to popping a bicep. Well, yeah. But I think the fact that it's like for speed and reps, like, it should be a light enough tire, at least for my class that, like, it shouldn't be a risk. But I'm also, I'm kind of waiting for, like, someone, to be so aggressive with it, the tire just fucking starts

B-lining for the crowd. Like, they're going to have to have like, like, like, like bumpers up or something. It'll be you. Oh, Paul, oh, no. You're pop a sandbag. You're going to now launch the tire into the crowd. I just have to strategically aim it to certain people maybe, but yeah,

that'll be fun. Um, there's April Fool's was yesterday. Anybody see anything worthwhile? Um, also I want to circle back to like, do we think Brian Shaw was actually in the podcast? I'm going to say bullshit. He was absolutely not on the podcast. Oh,

Joey's looking to be all confused. No, no, there's no way he was. You don't believe anything you read on the internet on April 1st. Ever.

I get caught by one every year. I'll send it. This year, it was Miami of Ohio, went to the ACC. I sent it to my brother-in-laws. They're both Miami of Ohio fans. And they're like,

hey, it's April 1st. I'm like, I'm an idiot. God, I mean, nope, I just don't even check Instagram. The only thing I saw was massonomics, in their

nerling nail file. That was actually pretty funny. Yeah. Good to know that Joe continues on. I'm happy I could be a part of that. Things don't die around here. I didn't make a comment that Barbill Rescue should make

a barbell rescue brush to take off nerling. They probably could have better. Code unpaid. Code unpaid. Oh, that's good. Yeah, I've got my middle sister was born on April Fool's Day. And so you're 27th birthday.

But my parents always tell the story that when they called that day, nobody believed them until we later when they showed up with a baby. And, oh yeah, it was a birthday. And so we used to always play tricks on her. But yesterday, I'm in, so I'm in a rural site now doing a couple months. And one of the nurses played a prank on one of the docs and used casting material for like an arm. And she cast his remote and his mouse to his computer. Oh, no.

So he had to go find a bone saw to be able to actually cut through the casting material to get back to work. That's kind of shitty. That's so elaborate, yeah. I'd just be afraid to, like, damage the actual electronic device or something somehow, like, or, like, get like some kind of residue on it wouldn't come off. It'd be like, whoa, you owe me $1,000 now for a computer. No, well, no, it's, there's, like, if you put it on skin, there's, you put a layer of cotton. There's a protective coating. Okay, yeah, that makes sense.

I learned something new every day, Big J. Keith, have you never had a cast? Never once. I only know that I think I've had my nose. I've broken my nose and my ankle, so neither of those would have gotten cast. Interesting. Ankle just got like an air cast and, uh, okay, uh, round table.

Who has broken a bone? Mommy. Oh my. I'm 41 years old and I've never broken a bone. My little girl didn't make it to three. And I made it to 41 without it. Yeah. Oh.

That's the only way I know that cast's work is because I saw herds go on. Yeah, but she's probably not allergic to contrast, so I think she went. She might be. Maybe that shit's hereditary. I'm not sure. The Mario Lopez memes, everyone had been enjoying that. So good. Oh, geez.

And the Tanner just, I mean. Big shout out to Tommy for calling him on it right away. If there's one thing straight guys need to do, it's tell everybody how straight they are. Thank you, Tommy, for that comment, because I'm, That was the funniest thing. That's, it's been getting some leverage,

or just been getting some legs. For sure, it's lasted a few weeks now, so I'm chuckling every time. Yeah, my chat, GPT is definitely taken down several times. Do you want to do last week's episode then based on that?

Yeah. So last week's episode was the big Nate episode. It was almost like, it's wild. Like, they do these like long episodes. So it's like a full hour, like for the pre show almost,

or the, you know, between the pre show, until they kick us off. It's almost like an hour. And then it's like, you get to wait another week. And so then you actually get the rest of the show. So it was like it's almost like two segmented podcast. But big Nate talking Jim Radar loved it.

Big fan of that. The biggest takeaway for me, obviously, I think I enjoyed. We're in Tanner. That's something like when Nate switched around on them, the unpaid and underrated. He also played at least fun, most fun, which is great, but unpaid and underrated specifically. And then Tanner basically saying, like, well, this is how we would play it, but this is how Keith interprets it. It's like, because I do, I don't necessarily like our, I. I just go it's either good or bad in our game because it's easier than explaining, like, well, this is the perception and does it vary against the perception?

Because I don't know. I just like yes or no and good or bad. So, but Tanner saying Keith's version and comparing it's Taylor Swift's version, I could get a chuckle out of that. So five out of five big Nates. Andrew. I think it was good. I'd like to listen to Nate, dig through. I know a little bit about computers, not a lot.

I know nothing about coding and Schfeld. but boy it was it was good to listen to so I'm going to give it five out of five coated in schvelt Matt so the biggest thing was after the thing that they mentioned and how Nate created that one video for the gym or the reviews for the podcast reviews

and seeing the video in there and how giant Nate's arms were and how like jacked he was that's something I never realized I didn't think AI could get that jacked. He burnt through so many lakes or oceans or whatever Nate likes to say. Making that image. We'll get to that. This is crazy. I didn't realize that Nate was that Jack.

So I'll get that five out of five Jack Nates. There you go. Jake? Yeah, I liked it a lot. It was cool to hear the backstory and just how much Nate put into it. And just to see it all come together. and to lead off of the pre-show and stuff. So I'll give it five out of five A.C. Slaters.

I have a... If you guys remember, I never remember the episode number or whatever anybody can tell me, but Big Frank from Lift Evil once hijacked the Masonomics show by sending in a talk boy with a radio, with a cassette in it. And he hijacked the show,

and he laughed about how that was the time. time that Lift Evil hijacked Masonomics. I think this week unpaid and underrated hijacked massonomics. He hit him with the horns. So when he hit him with the horns, I laughed because he asked us if he should and we were like, I said absolutely, like you'd be silly not to.

When he hit the shaboot, I broke. And I was doing a rare thing. I was watching it on the TV as the kids were getting ready for bed. And I absolutely broke. and then hit him with the, the turkey disturbed. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Like, that went from a Masonomics podcast and turned into what I think is best described as hijacked by unpaid and underrated. And he did so in a way that was flawless. It was well executed. And it also gives the Masonomics listeners who may not know what we are and what we do here a little bit of a taste of the chaos and silliness that happens here on unpaid and underrated.

I really appreciated all the callouts for us, especially from Nate and Tommy and Tanner ultimately. Like, it was, for me, it was probably one of the most fun episodes to listen to and watch. Just based on the connection between the three, five of us. So I'm going to go in. We're not big math over here. Yeah, absolutely not. I'm going to go give that a five at a five shabootz.

Nice. Yeah, I agree with all that. The YouTube video this week, if anyone had a chance to watch it, it was, you know, very poorly commented on on YouTube. So I don't know if it's worth watching. You know, he's got all these guys just being dick. No, not really. But it was funny because it literally last night on their live,

Tanner was like, oh, man, everyone, I mean, he wasn't saying it to, like, be cocky, but it was just, like, genuinely, like, the majority of the comments on our YouTube tours, the YouTube walking podcast are like very positive. And then like he must take he got a real snarky one today. Basically like all these are on really downhill. It's all played out, et cetera, et cetera.

So it was just funny. It was like, you know, 24 hours later and someone's getting shit on. So I did enjoy that. But the, it was jungle gym reviews. He's a big, uh, big guy in the home gym review, uh, section. And they kind of walk through his. The weird thing about this one, I guess, would be like so much of the gym stuff was almost more just like reviewing shit, you know, he doesn't really

gonna own. So it's kind of a different take, but it's almost like, if you go to any, like, uh, big reviewers, gym, it's mostly gonna be that because the majority of their gym is gonna, you know, rotate constantly. He, they did his back section of his gym, I think had his, like, his, like, his bread and butter rack that he, like, build himself or whatever. He's like his quote unquote forever rack, but like, the majority of stuff in the front room is just like stuff that's featured on his channel recently. But, uh, all it was, you know, the guys pretty charismatic? No, charismatic.

Charismatic. I said it before you did. Yeah. Charismatic is a food from South Dakota that it's like fried steaks. Yes, her too. But yeah, anybody else get a chance to consume any of that? I'm guessing probably not. I did. Oh, go ahead, Joe.

No, I was going to say, I didn't get a chance. I just want to point out that I did watch the Iron Chaplin. Oh, that's a good one. That was a really good one. you like that. Pea gravel vindication. Just want to point that out. Go ahead, Andrew.

Yeah, so I watched about half of it, the amount of racks. And with him, Tanner was funny when he went and leaned on that 3D Smith machine and almost ate it. I was kind of like, the video was like in like a small version. So I really, I more heard it than I saw it. But yeah, I didn't go back. I might have to go back and like actually find that clip. But it was pretty funny. And I don't remember what it was called, but they had.

at that rack that does a little bit everything. Yeah. Yeah. Card left and shoulder press and all kinds of random shit. Yeah. I couldn't fit it, but it's cool. For sure. Yeah, with all those racks,

I mean, Tanner had to have loved that gym just for all the racks because, you know, as a straight man, you obviously love racks. So that would make sense. I got a couple brief updates. So I did get the orange shirt finally. I ordered that the day of the drop. I might have been like an hour later to everybody else.

I did miss out on the silly goose pin, but dude the longest it's ever taken me to get a shirt like so if I order you know all the drops for Thursday right so I always get my shirt by the following Thursday it's like it's never more than a week at the initial tracking I think was for Friday it got bumped to Saturday never showed up Saturday fucker shows up Monday and I'm like what the shit there's like maybe it was even Tuesday actually it might have been Tuesday but it was like the law I mean obviously not massonomics or Tanner's fault but it's just I've never had the post office take like 10 days to get me a shirt from South Dakota, it's always like five to six, seven.

So, but it did finally show up. Uh, I do enjoy the burnt orange. It could be a little more orangey for me, but still like orange is orange. It's a variation of orange. So I couldn't, I couldn't see an orange Masonomics shirt and not pick it up. And then my other update is, uh, I did start tweaking around with some, some folders on my iPhone. Not sure if I like the idea.

Cause now it's like, now I'm, I struggle to go find random shit. But it's like, I can see the advantage, I guess, but you almost just, I guess most you guys just like go to the search bar anyway. way, but I don't know. I might end up deleting all the folders and just going back to having three pages or five pages, because I'm not sure I'm sold yet, but I'm going to give it a little bit of a shot, but I know, that's about it.

I also don't love the folders. Like, you're not the first. Yeah. And then why we have a couple people here, the three-year anniversary idea that we had been tossing around. So unless someone does the whole D&D thing for us, it's probably going to be some sort of,

either we just unmute people or, I'm assuming we're just going to try to get as many people on and just have them in the waiting room and we just unmute someone for 10 minutes at a time if that's what people want. But I don't know. And then with some other ideas that people were floating around, I think the Big Mo suggested like, or he liked our idea of like having people on like tonight where we're having a couple people on or also having just recurring or old guest on just for like a shorter episode. So I don't know. Does anyone have any thoughts or feelings on what they like to see from this podcast for either the three year anniversary or just future in general? I have a little bit of a panel I think the shorter

version of like one or two people like coming in and doing like a quick life update and just going on a story or like maybe something they wanted to talk about during their episode

but you don't always get to every part of the show notes otherwise it'd be a five hour podcast instead of the world record breaking three hour that you guys did that one time one minute if I recall if you guys just do like

like occasionally do like one or two or three people who want to come back on and just be like, okay, we're going to do that person, we're going to do that person, and just have them as like a roundtable kind of thing. That could work. Mm-hmm. For the three year, I think the guest crew would be a really good one, especially just to test you to, if somebody else ran it, to test you to or even Nate as well to see like how much you remember of the 149, 48 people that have been on.

No, don't do that to me. Oh, I do great, but also like, can guest crew literally be a full episode? I think guest crew can be like a quarter or an eighth of an episode. I don't know that it needs to be an episode because like, does anyone want to hear the same segment for an hour? Like, I don't think I want to listen to that. Would you? Like, I don't know. I'm actually honestly asking, like, would someone want to hear the same game for an entire episode?

Like, maybe? I don't know. But I like the idea of like someone, someone comes with us with a handful of those and then someone has, like, like a what weighs more like I think it'd be cool to just kind of dig into their backlog and like the overall backlogger games and maybe just approach Joey and I and if Nate's available and just ask us shit but I don't know we got like four or five weeks to get this together and it'd be nice if we didn't have to do all the work. Yeah it could be cool if you did you know kind of you mixed in party cast sort of but also you know like the call in episodes they could ask questions they could play games and there's some variety thrown in here that. and everywhere. We could do games and questions, maybe. Because our two-year anniversary, was it the two-year anniversary that we had Huck Finn and a bunch of others?

Like, that was essentially the party cast. So, like, I think something's more organized than that might be more dope. I don't know. My only problem would be, who do we get? Like, how do we pick and choose? Well, are we going to have 30 people that actually want to do it and are available during our time slot? Look at episode 200. We had 25 people.

Like, it was ridiculous. Or you just get Brian Shaw and you get them before they do. Oh, that would be very funny. Well, speaking of Strongman, Joey, went and Voyard his first Strongman show this weekend. Any takeaways from that? Are you signed up for one yet? I think you ended up going to one that was like a big national level show. So it was probably a little more overwhelming than what a show you would sign up for.

Like, there's your first one. Yeah, there was a lot going on. And so the show started at nine. And I think they went in, yeah, 9 a.m. They did an overhead press melody, and then you had to go do your truck pull. Melody. Medley? Medley.

Medley. And then you did your truck pull. And then you had to do your deadlifts. And for the two and a half hours I was there, I think I only got to see overhead press, and then the masters. So it was like, it was just too long of a thing. thing from nine to three. Like I think there was just too many people. And of course,

I made the mistake of bringing my little girl, which I say is a mistake except for the fact that I said, I asked my son if he wants to go. And he said no. And she said, I want to. And any girl dad in the world will tell you,

you're not telling her no. As soon as she says, I want to go. And I was like, are you sure it's going to be boring? And she's like, no, I'm going.

And I was like, I guess we're going. So I got to see my friend Lori, who just wanted. her pro strong man card. Got to see her at least get to the deadlifts. I didn't get to see her truck pull. I did get to see her overhead press.

And another friend Josh was there. And a couple of the, we have this Ontario stone lifting community that like you guys all saw that I went to that one big stone lifting party. We all still stay in contact. And there was a bunch of us there. Would that show be the one to

make me want to sign up? No. No. I think that it was very chaotic. It was very wild. And I don't think a six-hour show is what I want to do. Also, I'm still injured as hell. I still am in pain picking up a coffee mug right now. So until I get my tendons on my arms looked at, I'm not doing any heavy lifting at all. Like, I'm 20% weaker than I was six months ago because of what's going on with my arm. So no, I don't have the bug yet. Again, I've said it before. I don't have this competition bug that you seem to have, Keith, where like I just, I need to compete every once in a while. Like, I don't have that. But I also think if I sign up for something, it'll make me like go back to the gym, because right now I'm only down to two to three days a

week. And it's whatever my arms will let me do. I can't deadlift without straps at all. I can't curl. Well, that's strong man. I don't have to use. You can... Yeah, I know. Squatting is decent. Benching is okay until my shoulder gives out. Like, it's just one of those things where I'm just in so much pain from my shoulder to my fingers

that, like, it's hard to do lifting. So I'm trying to get it in when I can. So, like, when I'm feeling nice and recovered, so, like, no, I'm not going to sign up for a strong man tomorrow because I would zero everything. Like, I struggled on 365 deadlifts last week. Like, it's... It's hard right now. So no, I don't have the bug.

Do I want to do one? Yes. I think after seeing, especially watching the Fingles Finger, that is, that looks so much fun. Just seeing people struggle with that. And I'm going like, but I could do that. I've done that. Like that's, I want to do that. This week I heard Rob, uh, vintage wage Rob, Rob, future guest.

He's hosting the, the grip gauntlet at home gymcon, like the grip challenge is like a, big grip. Yeah. always is. So he's actually borrowing like Kurt Locker, former guest, is letting him use the finger fingers that they have for Strongman, but put bigger handles on them and use it as a grip event. So wild. That would be pretty cool to see.

It kind of makes me want to be like, man, I can always sign up for that grip thing. But I think the way they have it is like, it's like $125, but it includes your home gym con tickets. But if you already have home gym con tickets, then you still got to pay $125. I'm like, I don't want to do a grip contest that bad. Yeah. But if anyone's listening, you can sign up for a big. Big Rob's grip cop.

You're already going to be there, so hit them up. Do you got any affiliates for them before we get that sponsor read going? Yeah, sure. Are we doing them all still? Everything that's listed, yeah, might as well. Oh, hell yeah. Reassusat someday.

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because we might stop talking about stuff if people never use it just for the sake of speeding up, but we love Chris. We want Chris to do well and make money and stuff like that, but we also want him to know that his code is of use to the crew and stuff like that. So those are my three affiliates. Nice.

Big Andrew, do you have anything for the listeners? I do. It's a little spoof off of my favorite and my wife's least favorite ad that the boys have ever read the Texas Power Bar ad. So Tanner and Tommy first started lifting weights in the late 90s and being powerlifting in the mid-2000s. At the time, they were working out at the Y. Around 2014, they started a YouTube channel,

and Massonomics was born. In 2015, Massonomics YouTube gave way to Massonomics Gym with the help of some guys from the Y. It was at that time, Tanner, Tommy, and some guy named Tyler started looking at the fitness industry with the intent of changing it for the better. In 2016, Massanomics Gym expanded the content to make... They made fit the need. Their passion, drive, and purpose now had a greater mission. Tanner and Tommy set out of... on their own to make what they believed was the greatest podcast they had ever seen,

listened to, and the Massonomics podcast was born. It's recorded in the house, and they talk about Nerling, and it's at it free. A hundred of state, national, international, world, home gym, and massanomics, powerlifting records have been and continue to be set and broken while listening to the Masanomics podcast. Buy your own Massanomics merch and sign up to be a supporting member at Massanomics.com, and explore the real home gym equipment setups and reviews at jimradar.com. Well done, friend.

Thank you for that. Very good. And with that, we probably should kick all these looky-lose out and kick them off the podcast. Appreciate everyone that joined in and tuned in. And let us know in the Discord if you would like to having a little bit extra people on the general topics. I think that could be an easy way to get people on periodically. But let us know in the Discord, gentlemen, and ladies.

And Matt, every week you're welcome. Yeah, I got to go blip out. Thanks for having me on. See soon. All right, let's get our guest on the horn. Big Andrew, is that you, buddy? Are you there? Finally, we'll get our guest on the horn.

Not during the intro. It is I. You're live on unpaid and underrated. Welcome, welcome. Happy to be here. Go ahead and clear the air for us. What is your name? What is your Discord?

What's your Instagram? Give me all the handles you want people to find you at and let us know what we should call you. It's all different everywhere, and it started as Big Stein in the Discord, and I think I have it as Big Andrew now. And then my Instagram is InstaLis Vano. It was always a joke that I would never get an Instagram,

and if I did, it would be InstaLis Vano. And here we are. College nickname Vano, where LoVano is my last name, and apparently that's just too long for people to say. Yeah, you can't say Andrew. No, no, no, too long. Too many letters. But other than that, that's pretty much all I've got.

I'm not a huge social media person. Understandable, understandable. All right. Well, let's hear that Masonomics origin story and take us on that journey. Yeah, so it would have been January 2025. And I'm a good friend of Kevin RSG. And he's been talking about and wearing the shirts for years. So I've seen it and known about it.

I have never listened to a podcast before Masonomics. So this was my first one. So January 2025, it was up for a big promotion of work, didn't work out. So I was a little bummed. And I was like, you know what?

I'm going to treat this like a breakup. And I'm going to get back into lifting because I took a big long break off of it. And so I started doing that. And Kevin's like, you should really listen to this. Maybe we should go to the Arnold. And so Valentine's Day,

I started listening. And six months later, I was done with the entire back catalog caught up. Wow. Yeah, my wife didn't do anything but hear Tanner and Tommy's voice for a long time. So when I met you at the Arnold at Hogan's house, or maybe at Breck, I think it was a Hogan's house, you had like hadn't even listened to an episode or had just started? No, I was like 80 episodes in at that point, yeah.

I got you. Okay, so you got the gist at that point. Okay, go cool. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We are glad that you were from there. What's funny, I'll give you a quick little, I was watching. a music video and there was a kid playing drums that had long curly hair and my little girl yells

is that Tanner? And I was like, well, no, that would be Tommy, but also no, that's not Tommy. So like, you know, once you're involved, the whole family is getting involved. Like, there's no way around it. Oh, she's got shirts. My son's got shirts. So she begrudgingly, I have been trying for months to get her to join. I'm like, honey, you would like it. You like lifting. You like talking to people like you would like it. She's like, no, it's your thing. I was like, this is nobody's thing. Yeah, this is nobody's thing. Good call. What's, what's your wife's name? Michaela. Michaela, if you're listening, come join us. It's fun. We have cookies, creatine, and memes. I don't know what, how do you bring people? How do you bring people in?

I even got... It's not a cult. It's not a cult, I promise, except the kind of it. What did I say? We're not gay here. None of us are gay. It's okay as straight as it goes. It's very okay.

There probably are some of us, but it's okay either way. It doesn't matter. What did I say? Or what did I say last week? We're like a cult that forgot there was a purpose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's... Oh, that's so accurate.

Yeah, because it was my wife that actually coined a cult without the bad stuff. and then I was trying to explain it to my friends at work. And then I was like, it's like, it's like a cult, but like we're not working towards anything. Because in cults, there's always like that end time or whatever. No, like, if anything, it's the opposite. We're just never going to get strong enough. This cult is here until we all finally get strong, which will never happen. Nope, sorry.

Okay, sorry to interrupt that. Go ahead, Keith. You're good. Well, you know, everyone likes to know where people are from. So where do you live? Where are you from? Cleveland, Ohio. I live eastern, northeast Ohio.

I live in the national park pretty much. Oh, nice. It's over there. So it's beautiful. Love it. I've lived seven miles from where I grew up. Nice. Is that national park in the Midwest?

It is. It is in the Midwest. Okay. I do think, I disagree with the entirety of Ohio being the Midwest. I think that there is a bisecting line. And I might even include Buffalo in the Midwest. There's some things. All right.

I think I have a wild view of it, but I do think that there's some similarities with folks from Buffalo and folks from Cleveland. So I could be wrong. But in my incorrect opinion, this is the... If Buffalo's Midwest, I'm Midwest. We'll take you. We like you. I mean, it would track that, like, New York could house, like, northeast, east and Midwest, like, all at the same time. It is the biggest state in the world.

It is. It's a huge. It's a big state in the Northeast. But, like, you get to South Eastern Ohio and definitely not Midwest. Cincinnati, like, has more of a southern feel than a Midwest feel. So there's, I get where people say Ohio's not Midwest. good deal um some of my smirch in the last year

or through your backlog journey that you've so you've heard him talk about 30 drops in the last six months oh yeah maybe maybe something I guess if in your case it might be more something you heard about more than what you've seen but yeah what's that one thing that you're like damn I can't buy that anymore so I saw and I think it was scantz

had the St. Pauli's girl shirt mm yeah that one I would like that is that the pen? Is that the pinup girl? Or like the bar, you don't want the beer. Yeah, I wasn't sure if it was the gal with the beer or pinup girl, but either way, I thought it was pretty cool. Either that or the all go, no show.

No, yep. You're on the wrong side of history for that one. Yep, is what it is. I got the last one. It was a great shirt to pick up on clearance. Yep. So was this one. This was a good clearance fine.

High bar lifting club. There you go. Do you have a Hall of Fame status? I do. So this puts me at 8. Hell yeah. And then I'll be at the lift hard. Easy doing the strong man, which put me at 11.

So at either the Arnold next year, if I go to Crew Falls or get like voice on the podcast, that would put me at the Hall of Fame. Haven't you already been to the Arnold? Because it would be my two year. Oh, okay. You are counting that you've been to the Arnold. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay, okay. Ooh, breaking news.

you guys, unless you listen to the live last night, you wouldn't actually know this, but our podcast will come out after there, so it's not breaking news for anyone other than you two. The Arnold, I think it's number three on the card, whatever number it is. So, attend the Arnold is now, attend the Arnold or it's official, like legitimately official, or attend home gym con this year. And it's got the asterisk of it. It's only this year currently because it only has to be something off to be like, it'll have to be something that kind of like re-ups in the future only if they have a booth. So like I would say if they have a booth, if they, if they, if they,

don't have a booth next year and you're going to home gymcon. I don't imagine it will be a, but I don't know, that's getting in the weeds. But currently this year, anyone listening that needs that Hall of Fame checkmark didn't go to the Arnold, better fucking see it at Home GymCon because home JimCon is awesome. I'm going to try to hit that this year.

So we will see it. We're not too, too far. It's like a four hour drive. It's a four hour drive. It's not really doable. It's on your radar. On my radar. You could get a lot of, a lot of radar points or whatever.

They're called. Oh, the song Radar Love. Mm-hmm. You know, for years, I thought it was Red Hot Love. I think I did, too. Like, I never looked it up. I was just like, that's Red Hot Love. Yeah, I don't, because, yeah, I have 100% I think I thought that too.

Because now it's like, wait, what the fuck is Radar Love? Like, you love Radar? Like, did they build it? Like, did Matt, did Tanner and Tommy get in a time machine and go build the song because they love radar? Like, what is Radar love? I think you just love anybody. within echolocation of

or is it more like you're so horny you'll fuck anything in a mile radius so you love everything around you. I think we just said the same thing in different. Yeah. I said it's dirty. It made more sense when I said it my way.

But yeah, that is. I'd have to actually, I'm going to go listen to the song now and actually listen to the context of the rest of the lyrics because I don't think when we were like kind of in the you know, the moles of Jim Radar and I tried to

do the Easter eggs of like have something radar related in a moment. my songs. And it was, it was that song, Radar Love or the Britney Spears song. And I ended up going balls deep on the Britney Spears song. And so I didn't really ever listen to the other one very much. But we'll have to, Big Jeff, tell us in the Discord how wrong we are about everything we just said about music. And then teach us a thing or two about radar love. Tell us what it's all about. Not in detail. But speaking of Jim Radar, as you brought it up, do you have a CTF? What's your name? How's your Jim Radar coming along? How's the

Jim coming along, all that. It's good. So I've got a CTF. I'm, I think 40th right now on the leaderboard. And I just want to be really clear. I'm as straight as they come, but I'm right behind Tanner. I couldn't pass that one up. But it's going well.

I haven't looked at my spot in forever. I've dropped. I've dropped like two. Like, I don't even, I think I'm in the time. I'm five or six now. I got bumped a couple of times. Once I hit home gym nerd, I was just like, well, until I get new equipment, I'm not going to keep. Yeah.

Yeah, I pick up a lot of stuff at scrapyards. Like, the scrapyard by me, as I picked these York barbell stands for a chalk bowl, a bunch of other stuff. So it's been fun. I am 54th behind one of the Davids. That is not allowed. I think he chipped you by like a point on purpose too. I remember seeing it at the other day. Yeah.

I think I saw that the other day. I was like, I think that's strategic. Just to fuck with you. Uh-uh. That was mine. I dialed mine in, so I was within a point of Tanner right before this podcast.

Nice. Just for the year behind him, I do. I do appreciate that. Oh, man, I had a question. What the hell was it? Oh,

and it's lone buck barbell. Nice. Yeah, go follow him on Joe. Actually, yeah, we need to like, we do need to like try to get people to follow each other on gym radar so yeah people need to share their actual because that's that is one it's hard sometimes because if someone doesn't have their name on gym radar and it's like i don't know your je i don't know everyone's gym names so i'll type in your first name and like 30 anders show up so it's like uh how do i find this fucker um so i think one thing i do want to add to this keith um just to talk over you for a second um that's fine all's fair and no no i think you're gonna love this okay when we ask them do you Do you have a certified training facility and are you on gym radar?

I want to start asking, explain your gym name. Oh, that is actually good. That's a good. That's a good one. I'm going to have to add. I'm actually, you carry this one. I'm going to go add that to my copy and page.

I'm useful every once in a while. All righty. Give me the story. Like, explain it person. No, like give me the story of your gym. Yeah. So like every good gym name, I started at Chat. and just started putting in a bunch of stuff and I was like this is none of this um and so

i was how did that come across i think i was out hunting and i was like most of my movement stuff i try to base around that because if you have never dragged a deer out of it is difficult well in ohio i understand you just leave them on the side of the road so we do we just actually the other day i was i was blown away i guess i've never seen where they take the deer? Obviously they would put them in a pile somewhere. Well, I saw that pile. You saw the pile?

Oh, yeah, there were like 25 deer. They had to be like as big as like a salt mound or something. It was, I was baffled. I, because I'm usually driving, and we were coming home from a baby shower in Pittsburgh, and we're driving by it. I'm like, oh my God, there's a pile of dead deer down there. Just like Joey said. Yep. Yeah.

Exactly. Yeah. I can never seen it before. That's true. But it was there. But yeah, then that's a shot a little buck that year on. some public land and I was like ha lone buck barbell he was just wandering by

himself so I was like yeah that'll be good very good all right well you're here you're on the podcast you actually had 11 submissions I think one might have been a duplicate by somebody so call it nine people yeah so at least 10 people actually took you serious and said hey I'm gonna go take 10 minutes of my life

and go fill this out for my loved one whereas most people give me like I'm like a week out and they have like one or two submissions and I gotta do the email then I got to reach out. So I appreciate not having to bug you. And you even reached out to me multiple times in the past week and said, hey, what else do I need? Do you want to see this?

Very attentive. I appreciate that and value that in our guest. But anyway, when you did get all these submissions, how'd you go about getting them so any of our future listeners that are going to be guests can follow that lead? So my wife was easy. I said, you know that really annoying podcast

I listen? I'm going out of podcast about that podcast. That one was. some other friends it was hey I'm doing a lifting podcast you know just leave it at that and try to keep it PG because I have some interesting friends you know it'll be public I think is how I put it to everybody

but just I just hounded people good that's what it takes I didn't see it on there I'm like hey you know you didn't put it on there you know my brothers they're both busy people but it you know bugged them and then I kept like the message and then unliking the message and then re-liking the message. I do that sometimes when people don't fucking do what I ask them to do for the podcast.

You didn't see this. Let me just bang this again. I'm glad I'm not the only one that does that. That's awesome. Yeah. So it's just a lot of just trying to stay on it because I see sometimes when you look at that list, it's like, oh, there's zero. I'm like, that's story of our life. But most people come around.

It doesn't happen without effort on my hand of being like, please do something. but no, that's awesome. I appreciate that. So did you hear that guest? Like, you have to be the asshole because people, if not, they'll be the asshole. All right. Uh, do you familiar with least fun, most fun, big Andrew? Absolutely. Will you explain it to your friends and family for us? Yeah, so I get to tell you the least fun and the most fun thing about a topic that you give me or multiple. And correct. All right. So big Kevin gave me a couple options here. So I'm still on the fence of what I want to ask. So I'm just going to go with my gut. Nursing homes, least fun, most fun. And why that's pertinent to you. Yeah, so I run nursing homes and like continuum care facilities of independent assisted skilled nursing hospital. All of that.

Nursing homes, I would say the least fun is the liability because it's all liability. My job is I'm responsible for every dumb thing that every person does, whether I know about it or which can be little. be very, very bad. So it makes things interesting. And right now, this place I manage, like 170 people. My last place, we had 500 residents-ish. So there's a lot of that. But the most fun is you take people in a lot of times some of the worst moments in their life.

You know, mom's dying, dad's dying, something bad happened. And you can turn, you can make such a positive impact in their life. Because it's a service industry through and through. And it's a lot of times it's customer service. You're coming in and you're just caring for somebody. And you can make some impacts. Like there are families whose loved ones have passed years ago. And I still talk to them just because we make good relationships.

And they want to know how I'm doing because I made a good impact or my team made a good impact in their life. So that part makes any of the bad and anybody who works in the industry is it's a difficult industry. at times. It makes it all so worth it. See, I figured the least fun would have been all the banging. So I haven't experienced that much. I have seen all the things. I've seen the, you know, what is it, the dice or the lufas sort of stuff for different colors. And I have, I guess not so much. I have had a couple where I've had to put something on the door. Because the more we get, we're not very

fast. I'm thrilled that they're still doing things, but like, let us know. Put a sock on the... Exactly. Put a sock. Actually, I did do that one time. I was joking with a guy and his wife, and they weren't doing anything, but they were living next to each other. And I just walked in with a pair of grippy socks. I was like, hey, not say anything's happening, but if it does, just put this on the door. That's pretty funny. Well done. Well, it's, I was nice to have such a positive outlook after that's a field that probably, you know, can eat away at certain, you know, a lot of people. So you almost have to, you know, just be cheerful. Like COVID showed a lot of

that because you couldn't have families coming. So, you know, you became these people's family, you know, pseudo family. So you had to do it. I don't want to get on a COVID tangent. Yeah, I was going to say, we generally call that with everything going on. We tend not to bring that up. Ah, with everything going on. Sorry. Yeah, yeah. Do you want to do a height person or who would you train with? So I've been thinking a lot about this one. And they're both difficult. So I would almost go, I think I'm going to go height.

But height person for me is not the easiest. So my background, I competed in track high school college, a little bit post-collegiate. and you're always in a group and I have had some lifts with some hype where there's no reason that that bar should have ever broken the ground, broken the rack, or it should have broken me. And I would say like maybe not so much one person, but that environment, you know, I've got some teammates. I did a lot of pole vaulting in college, but I was a decathlete. But you're still straight. yeah i i i played with poles but i'm as straight as they come like as straight as the pole when it was like bending or when it was like

oh yeah definitely that full bend right there fair yeah so i don't know i had to you said pull had to you had to you had to but yeah i'd say you know i had a buddy joe kelly that's probably who who i'd go with this dude him screaming at you you're gonna do whatever either him or maybe a buddy devon who they were big thrower dudes and they're both small guys now but it was that that experience is fun

yeah yeah they could both beat the crap out of me still all right skipping over all that skipping over all that um you know well you did track and field you did pull vaulting

yeah and now you do what Like give us some of that, like, journey. You took a break, heard. Yeah, so I started lifting probably about 12 years old. My dad would go to the local, pretty much a YMCA. It was called LACA. And so I had to sign a little waiver, do the machines,

and I would do that for a while. Got into high school and did the normal high school lifting maxed out every day. You know, curls, bench, never squat, and some T-bar room. and then junior year, I got introduced to CrossFit and loved it. I had some really good people. Athletic trainers, the one guy was an athletic trainer for Iowa. So we had a lot of really, really good people around.

So I think CrossFit gets a bad tendency for I'm just going to throw a bunch of weight around and have no idea what I'm doing. And that was not my experience. So it was super helpful for me. and got into college and track, you know, it's not all running. It was actually a lot of lifting. So we did, I lifted then through probably two years after competing and nothing heavy, just enough to stay alive. And then stopped and got into mountain biking and skiing and snowboarding because I couldn't do

at least the skiing and snowboarding while I was competing because those, when they're paying for your school, they're telling you what you're doing. So got into that sort of stuff. And then also, you know, drinking beer and eating burgers, which turns out when you're not exercising a lot and you do that,

you can gain a lot of weight real fast. So I went from 165, 170 to my max was probably 235. So, and then, you know, got back. So I was probably two, 30 in May or in January of 2025 when I started lifting again

and I went on just quite a tear of a diet and I'm down to about 195 now good for you so yeah I just lifted like a bodybuilder and ate like a bodybuilder my wife got really nervous I was gonna start shaving and tanning

so but that's that's kind of it decathlon did you what specific like that's the track and field one where you do like all the events at the same that's like what Chris Jenner did that something okay that is that is 10 events two days

it's it's a blast my favorite was I had two in a week that was it was terrible but awesome nice and then now I see you're signed up for novice strong man at the lift toward LeVisi so you're making the journey

you're one of the few Ohio crew you know we know big Kevin and big Nate are going to make it out this year so you and I'm guessing probably Sam might be coming out trying to think who else Tom is coming That's right Tom's coming and competing

I think Kevin's going Was he for some reason I thought he will Let me know if I'm wrong Maybe he is Is he signed up He's not competing though is he Or he's not competing in strong man or? I think he's doing strong man not power lift

Oh okay yeah you're right He's in the lightweight strongman I'm so used to I don't know There's so many fucking lift hard live easy and like years people can and can't come. It's very hard to keep it straight. As Tanner knows, it's really hard to keep it straight of like who's coming and who's going and who's who's being here this year and last year.

And, you know, I don't know. It's hard to keep all that. But yeah, how has first strong man experience then it will be? First lifting competitions. Okay. I was in high school. I did a CrossFit thing. Okay.

And then have you actually been like acquiring implements in the gym for Strongman? Are you borrowing Kevin stuff? You're going over to Kevin's? Like what's a mixture? What are you not able to train? What are you able to train? So I don't have a log. I've got an axle sandbag.

Those yes for all farmer handles, which they work. But definitely put a collar on them because theoretically the weights might fall down. Yeah, that was going to be a that'll be a that'll be. We'll circle back. I'm going to unpaid and underrated debt, I believe. I'm going to. If I forget, remind me. That's on my list.

Sounds good. But yeah. And then there is a pretty good strong man, Jim. We're doing a meetup, April 25th, Grizzly Strength. So we're going to do that with some of the Ohio guys, and they've got a ton of stuff. So train some of that. I've used a log. I actually used the log that he gave to you at the arm.

Oh, yeah, yeah. You bought. When he signed, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. Yeah. So is there anything that, like, looking at the events and the weights, are you like, man, I got to fucking get a lot stronger in like the next three months. Probably the circus dumbbell.

Is that a little? that one makes me nervous jake's a little heavy on some of those like it's it's uh i think well i think i think i don't know i'm i'm afraid i'm i feel bad for some of the guys that i'm like oh that's a pretty heavy weight for novice yeah yeah so that's one 10 isn't it i think yeah yeah yeah masters is 120 and that's gonna be hard enough but 110 for novice there's gonna be a lot of guys that i feel like i feel like half the field might not get that yeah so i went down to hogan's and he was showing me some stuff um so we'll see we'll see how it goes and then i i put some pvc together and put a dowel in there and made it work.

So I was talking to mostly squats mat. Did you do the spray foam thing or how did you actually get the Dow? I haven't put mine together yet. I have the pipe. I need to go get the Dow and I figure everyone's going to screw it or if I'm going to like just tape the ends because I really don't want to do a spray foam. But I don't know. So they make a, let me see if I can pull. Oh yeah.

There's some people that might. I can't get it out. There's a, an end cap. So if you take it's what, inch and a half, two inch pipe, and you take the end cap for inch pipe, flip it around, you can shove it in like a barbell cap. And then you just either PVC it in or whatever. Oh, I might do that then.

So yeah, send me whatever that is whenever you get a chance. Because I'm going to go buy a Dow and whatever that was. And the only thing it might work against me is I bought, I spent more money and bought the Schedule 80, but it's a thicker gauge. So whatever, I might actually like, I might have to like take my, might have to cut like an inch off my piece of pipe and then take it into the store and see what actually fits or just take my, uh, not dynamo. I'm trying to say dynamometer, but I'm talking about a caliber.

Yeah. Slightly different. But anyway, enough about all that. But no, that's cool. I like that idea because I really don't want to have to fucking spray foam it or what I was going to like, I was going to screw it. And I'm like, I don't think screwing it's going to be the best. And I left mine like kind of open because I've got, I have a bamboo forest in my backyard. So sometimes I'll take bamboo and put it in because it feels a little.

little different. Oh, okay. I can see that. Okay. Wait. What? Yeah. So we grows like a wildfire. I know, I know what bamboo is and how it works. Why do you have a bamboo garden forest in your backyard? We bought this house three years ago. And it was owned by a Chinese couple and they like bamboo. I guess they had taken a lot of like really good care of this yard.

It's a very high maintenance yard. I'm taking it away from that. But they had some bamboo and then they got old and stopped taking care of it. So now I've got, I don't know, probably it's bigger than my gym, the space. So it's probably 600 square feet of bamboo. So what I do is I cut it down and then I sell it to farms and different stuff because they can use it as trellises. That's so cool. Turns out you cannot sell or give bamboo to the zoo because they have, special bamboo for the pandas because I tried.

Oh, man. So we've had a lavender farmer, bamboo farmer. Corn farmer. Yeah. He was like, you know, stereotypical. What else we've had some others too. Oh, man, that's neat. Chickens.

Yeah, chicken farmers. Has anyone done anything with bees? I'm trying to remember if we'd have had like a, like a bee person on here or not. What's a B person called an apiary? Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. No. It's pretty cool how diverse our selection of friends is.

I unfortunately don't play bass. I did have an opportunity to play bass in a band. And looking back, I'm very sad. I didn't take that opportunity. So I could speak about it. You probably shit yourself once, though. So there's that. I'm sure there's the one story that brings you together.

So it looked like your wife said no. No, that is correct. But someone else said he might have it. Like I did see that she wrote that. but then I saw another one said he may have one. I have a very, very close story. That works.

And it was, I think my wife was pregnant. So we biked down into the valley to go to the winking wizard, which is this kind of local little bar spot. It's a wanking or winking. Winking. Winking. Okay.

Wanking would be very funny. It would be a different type of, I mean, that's a, explains the pregnancy. It does. It does. It's crazy how that happened.

but we bike down we came back down into the valley so we biked back up probably a mile from the house and this was one of those like I feel something this isn't good and I stop walk a little bit try to get back on the bike and it's like nope

can't do this so I walked a mile pushed a bike and that was that and then another close one and my buddy Jimmy probably put this I don't know why So him and I hunt together. We go out at like 3.34 o'clock of the morning, get out in the woods.

And I don't know why. But I'll be fine, won't need to poop. We'll get out to the woods and get everything ready. And my body's like, it's time. It's time to go now. And it's like negative five outside and we're all bundled up. So I have taken multiple, multiple poops hanging off the tire of my truck, dark in the woods of Appalachia. that'll let it work as a poop story we'll take it

it's been a while since we've had a really in-depth one hits our quota I guess yeah yeah there's definitely a quota our number our number two quota that's good I'm gonna add that one in tonpain underrated normally I take time with these notes Andrew and honestly the past couple of days

obviously with what you heard earlier I haven't had time no worries and then like today so I'm off tomorrow are you guys off tomorrow no it's it to work okay so some some some some some American like I mean it's not a it's not a federal holiday it's gonna be it's gonna be company base so 50% of people might have it off but it's probably more like I bet like 25% of the people might have it off but I do not oh yeah so I'm off tomorrow and everything in the world is closed and I get a message from Malaf at like 12 and she's like oh we didn't get uh the presents for the kids and I'm like

uh-huh well you know I also have to go and pick up the thing I won right I guess I can do both at the same time because there's like a Walmart right next to the place I have to go and so I left work early and I honestly and then she's like oh and can you bring pizza home for the kids and it's like yeah I'm gonna have time for the YouTube video and going over the notes today yeah tons of time I get it. I've got a two-year-old and my wife's due in May. Yeah. The honey-do list never stops.

Yep. And you're allowed to do lift hard to live easy with a three-month at home? My wife is so cool. So I was listening to the podcast. That's all I was doing. And I get home and she's like, hey, we need to talk. I was like, okay, go upstairs. I'm like, I'm in trouble for something.

Not sure what I did, but I'm in trouble. I get up there and we walk into the bathroom and there's a piece of paper. I think I put it in the Discord and a pregnancy test and pregnancy test positive. And the piece of paper is admit one to the lift hard, live easy, which is also her birthday weekend. And she was just like, you go, you have fun. And my parents are, they're pretty cool. And they're going to help stay the weekend with her just so she's got an extra set of hands. but she was all about, you know,

you're going to go, you're going to go do this. I mean, like, it's a weird parenthood hack, and I'll probably get some flack for saying it. As a dad, you want to be there for your wife, as much as you can for the first, let's say, eight months to a year of the child being porn. But ultimately, you're useless to the baby. The only thing you can do is be there for,

for your wife. The baby wants nothing to do with you. I have useless nipples. Yes. Yes. Like, that's what it comes down to. And there might be times where it does fall asleep on you, or you're the only one that can calm it down, but it's going to wake up and want mom. Yep. So, like, that is kind of the, you know, from when my son was born, I didn't take time off. and then when my daughter was born, I did take time off. I took the first three months off and realized

I'm, and I want to be here to help my wife only, but the kid doesn't want me at all. So, yeah, I think you're in a really good position. That is amazing. Thank you. Michaela.

Yep. Thank you, Michaela, for letting him go to the Lift Hard LeVisi. We're talking about that today at work. We're, you know, some of the guys like the trash. their wives and I was just like I would fucking never

my wife is amazing she's an amazing mom an amazing wife she lets me touch her butt and like listens to my problems like she's the best agreed agreed her ray crew wives so I want you to take me on

okay so you've it's admitted that you have dyslexia so how is like I've never really I want to know what that's like essentially. Like, tell me, actually, that would have been a good one for least fun, most fun. But like, what are the hurdles with that and what are the benefits of that? Just like as someone who's completely naive. I want to hear the benefits of dyslexia.

I'm sure. I'm sure they exist. Well, I will say, boy, the thing I was most nervous about for this whole thing was the ad read. You did fine. It might be in there. The running joke for my entire life with my buddies is I can't read. like to the point where I have had to read in friends weddings like they I've been put in that situation many a time because it's because it's fun you know I speak in front of people a lot

so that part doesn't bug me but I would say the toughest part is definitely I would say public reading because I'll see words and letters and stuff move on me yeah that was more my quite like I don't understand it enough to know like like explain it to me like I'm a child that doesn't know what it is because I really... Yeah, so, like, you look at letters that are similar, like a lowercase D and a lowercase B. I'll go to write something. I'm not entirely certain what's going to come out.

And then randomly, like, there are words that, what, for me, what looks like it should have an E on the end? I know it doesn't. I'm well aware, but for me, it just, there's something with, like, the pattern where it just looks like that. So it makes something. things difficult. Luckily, spell check exists and all those other things. So it's not that big of an

issue. And I took the, you know, in school, you could do IEPs and that sort of stuff and take meds and except ADHD. But I just, I took the route of I'm going to have to deal with this for the rest of my life. Let's not take this. Let's figure out how to do stuff. Does, does, how, how, how old are you just for a reference? 33. Okay. So you would have done some cursive and like they haven't completely got rid of cursive by the time you were in school. Does cursive a whole different ballgame or is it like different levels of interpreting it differently versus print? I always thought cursive was like super easy. So I think they were, I think it, I don't know, something with your brain. I don't do cursive anymore. But, you know,

with the cue and the G threw me for a loop when they were boys were talking about it. But yeah, I don't have to do a lot of that anymore. But yeah, cursive was so much easier. But I think it's because every letter is very different. I was just going to, I was, I didn't want to interrupt, but I was thinking the same thing. It's because like there's nothing that looks the same. Yeah. Except for the N, the M, right? One's got two, one's got three humps. Yeah. Like, I could see that throwing you off with it, with that, but like, there's no, like the G looks like a G and then the Q is like completely different, right? So. And most fun is I have a cop out when I can't spell or can't write them.

Uh, Keith, you don't have that. No. Oh, that was a, I mean, maybe. But that was my, I was pretty proud of my April Fool's Day post on Facebook. I don't remember if I, I think I shared it on this. It was a story on Instagram, but it was like a main post on Facebook of like a, I think the gist of it was I'm giving up my pursuit of strength sports and I'm going to, you know, pursue a career as a professional speller or I want to win the master spelling bee or something to that extent. And I specifically tried to, I didn't. So there was some word, there was at least one word misspelled. and like I didn't even I didn't intend

I did intend for something to be misspelled but like I just assumed I misspelled something in that because as I typed it real fast I was like something in here is going to be misspelled and that's going to be part of the joke and then surely enough I think I used the wrong solely um I think I did like the like the the shoe solely

not the other one so like like I'm like well yeah that's the joke I knew I hadn't misspelled something because I half my typos and shit are just because I'm typing so fast and just got fat thumbs and don't really proofread it but yeah I didn't get a, I was pretty proud. There was at least one, one time in the past week in Discord where I just went, what? Oh yeah. I just responded with, what? Yeah, I don't, I can't spell half the words that are exist probably to. But you said something in the group chat today. I'm like, it was a, it was a Siri that sent it.

Oh, yeah, yeah. But I'm like, I still even like, and someone explained it and I'm like, I still don't know what he tried to say or how it. No, even I didn't realize it. I went back and read it and I was like, what did I, like, that's not what I meant to respond to? I was like, I don't know where this fits in. Yeah, because it didn't. Well, because I'm driving. Like I mentioned earlier, I had to go. I didn't mention this earlier. I won a PR box from the energy drink that I really like.

It's a long story about how I really wanted one of those PR boxes because these energy drinks are amazing. I didn't get one. And then I won one. Fantastic. And I go to pick it up and that's when I had to go to Walmart. That's how to go get pizza. That's when I had it. So I drove for like an hour after work.

today. And, yeah. So, like, I even said to the guys, I cannot keep up on this conversation. Mm-hmm. And literally within 20 minutes, I had 16 messages. And I was like, oh, this is infuriating. So I just tried to listen to them all, like, on a brief 25-minute stretch. And then I was like, that doesn't make any sense.

So I responded with what I thought I heard. And then when I went back and read it, that is not what I thought I heard. Oh, okay. I'm using Siri text to speech, right? So when you have your hands free and I plug it into my car, Siri reads to me through my speakers. So Siri, I thought Siri said something. And then when I went back and Reddit, nope, that is not what she said at all. I think you, me, and Siri were all dyslexic today.

It's fun. There's also dysgraphia. That's with numbers. I don't have that. Oh, okay. Yeah, I might have a video. I never heard of that. phrase. But if I'm reading an essay, okay, and they want to put numbers in, I, I, they turn

into like smoke. Like, I'll be reading and it's just be like, you know, the amount of people that do this is blank, blank percent. I'll literally just see nothing. I'm just like, I'm not going to read that. Like, I just phase over it. That's weird. Yeah, that's a weird thing that I have. I don't think that's this graphia. I think it's just like, I don't care about numbers. Yeah. It forces me, like, so I don't really read a lot. but I'll do a ton of, not podcast, audio. Nice. It's like Project Hair, Hail Mary, I'm probably going to jump in on it.

Oh, yeah, that's a really good list. That's a good, it's almost like borderline graphic novelty, the way they insert some of the speech. That's a good audiobook, I will say, for sure. Some audiobooks are asked, even if it's a good audiobook, it's just a shitty reader. So the narrator, it makes a world a difference on making a good audiobook or not. Yeah.

But I'll still read. Oh, go ahead. No, no, I was just going to move it along, but no, I don't want to catch off. Oh, I was just going to say, I really did enjoy all the mountain biking talk in the Discord. Oh, it's been great. Someone had, like, used an abbreviation for it. I'm like, I don't know. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?

Yeah. It's a good time. I enjoyed it thoroughly. Good. Love it. Love it. Has your baseball-based running ability and proved it all since you were a youngster. Oh, it has to have, because this was either my mother or my father. I want to hear

the whole funny, embarrassing childhood story. Yeah, so I had, from what I'm told, I had just watched like a video on alligators and what you're supposed to do when you're running away from an alligator, which is running a zigzag because they're really good at going fast in one direction. And I guess

I ran to first base and probably second base, just all over the place, fish tail and left right and center. That's really funny. I can envision that. Yeah, and just, I would assume it was T-ball.

I would assume I was safe. I probably could have run a county away and gotten back and been safe. But God, it was, that's a funny one. That is good. That makes me chuckled.

Oh. How is your renovations in general going? Is there anything you're still on your to-do list? or are you over this house and all your renovations? It's good and bad. There is definitely a bathroom that I demoed before my son was born, and it's still not done. But things are good.

You said you had a two-year-old son? Yes, yeah, yeah. I demoed it and didn't judge it. Still have a functioning toilet, or it's just a completely demoed? For a while, there was a drop cloth and a toilet, and that was it just, it was my little, toilet stall in the middle of my house and it's kind of off our living room. So it was like pooping with friends is what I called it. So that one is taking forever. We finally have everything

together. What I had to do is I had to cut up all the concrete and do some underground plumbing work. And I was not digging it. But the rest is good. We've got all data cable run. I had to blow out a window in the basement to get a set of cabinets down here. I've got, and the, I am most happy with in this house is there is a cut that I have on my stall mats. I took a whole saw and I cut it around this pole and it is a super tight fit. Nice. Oh, God, it makes rolled floors terrible. Some of those are really hard.

So getting those cuts around the poles for sure. Oh, yeah, yeah. But yeah, over this house for sure. Nothing straight, nothing square like every other house. But there's some cool little features. We did a laundry tub with my wife's. grandfather's machinist legs from a tool. No, that's cool.

So there's some cool stuff to kind of tie in. And where does the sticker wall that you're obsessed with fall into that? So my sticker wall is actually a sticker ceiling. And for you two, I'll show you. It's just up there. Magnets on the ductwork, it looks like. Yes, magnets on the ductwork. So that was a good time.

And I did notice the two magnets above your shoulders. Oh, yeah. I've got you and you and you and you. There we go. Where'd you get those? I got the you and you at one of them at the Arnold, and then I think one of them from... No, I should have gave them.

Yeah, I probably gave them to you two years. You probably gave them both, yeah. Because I've seen you at two Arnold's now, so I don't know that I gave you. It probably wouldn't have given you any of this year, but I should have gave you at breakfast or at Hogan's house. And me and Joey have to trade. I got to get new stickers.

That's where I was going with that. Because usually I send those If I send my gym stickers I send one of those at least So gotcha Gotcha Oh yeah I know I've Met a fair amount of our guest in person already

Oh Do you look a good sticker exchange though So the scrapping metal Is that like do you drive around the neighborhood To get scrap metal or you just point you out of your house And also like what are some of your best Scrapyard? Hey do you got any weights?

What do you have kind of deals? Because I've done that in the past myself When I used to go to the scrap yard at work I'd be like, do you guys have any weights? And it's very hit or miss. And I've gotten very minimal good things out of it. But every now, and they're like, yeah, I got a couple pairs of plates. And it's like mismatched shit.

So mine's an old habit. I was a contractor at one point. And so, you know, you scrap stuff. And then if I will, you know, I wear shirt and tie pretty much every day. I will stop on the side of the road and grab a water heater or something random shirt and tie and throw it in my truck because it's my, my degenerate hobby. It's just like picking up 20 bucks sometimes It is, that's exactly That's exactly what it is

So I'll throw it in there and do that I think the best is probably the York barbell Stainville just because I was looking at doing that chalk bowl I got A pair of, I think they were York Five Scrapyard They've got a ton of weeder

Plates so Digging through that Yeah kilogram and pounds. So they've got a good set. So I've got the scrapyard guy that owns it. The guy that owns it, I've got his number, and he texts me when they get stuff. Oh, nice.

That helps. So it works out well. Some loadable dumbbells. What do they end up trying to charge you like 30 cents a pound or something? It wouldn't really get some of that. Yeah, not too much. If they're in good shape, we'll wheel and deal a little bit. I've never over 70 cents a pound.

Like if it's something decent, but, you know, they're pretty low. my like these squat stands cost me i think 30 bucks oh that's good yeah you couldn't you couldn't buy those off marketplace or off a dealer for anywhere close to that usually they're like a hundred dollars minimum like even for shitty arrested out ones yeah so it's been good nice neat little neat little hack if you have a scrapyard around you go check it out it's actually not a bad idea and if you're a weight is weight person they have weight yeah same I did just pick up a set of, I've got a full set of Gen 1 Schistler's, and then I've got the deep dishes. And then I do have ones that predate the Buckeye Barbell deep dishes, which are, they're pretty cool.

And I picked those up for 63 cents a pound, and that was pretty cool. As much as I'm a weight is weight guy, I do want more steel plates for deadlifts. Yeah. right like because all I have now is the hundreds and the 45s from the strength co and the rest are the tri-grip rubbers nice they just don't sound fun they don't clunk when you're dead left and I want that clunk I want to get a set of spin locks I think those would just be cool yeah I you know I don't know I didn't love them the I sold off all my vintage collars just I'm high story maybe looking back now I'd be like I might have kept them and just kept them for wall hangers but they were just taking up a bunch of space on the floor or and I was just like, I can get a couple hundred bucks for this whole, like, like three or four pairs and like speed locks and the curl bar ones. So I, you know, got a little bit of money out of them all. And it felt like I was like cleaning up the gym.

But like in hindsight, it's like, oh, maybe I should have kept them. I don't know. That might be my best scrapyard. The curl bar I've got. The nerling on this thing is incredible. Nice. On a curl bar? Oh, it is like a deadlift bar.

It is ridiculous. Nice. Who made it? That does. I have no idea. It's an Allen key and it's rusted to crap, but it works. That is funny that, like, there are so many curl bars and home gyms that people literally throw them away at case in point. And that's actually a really good origin story for your curl bar.

I like that. So how do you know Kevin? So it was a fun, fun, the way we met was fun. But a buddy of mine, Chris from high school, was getting married. So we were going to the bachelor party and we were going to, I don't remember what they call it, but Putin Bay, which is a little island between Ohio and Canada. And it's, you know, drinking and fun and all that. And Kevin texts in the group, hey, anybody live in the Cleveland area? And I said yes.

And he's like, you want a carpool? Sure. Never met this guy before. And so I roll up. Oh, yeah. I roll up in my 90s. It's 96 GMC Sierra. C-1500 for those that like the square body trucks and pull up and go,

hey, are you Kevin? And he's like, yep, and gets in the car, and we sit in the car for two hours and go to a bachelor party, have some fun, get back. And then we kind of get to know each other, do some stuff, do some little things. He meets his wife. We stay in touch. So I ended up in his wedding and friends ever since try to lift once a month. It's been a little short recently because, you know, him move in and all that.

But it's been good. That's how we did. Did he say, did he stay in the same general location kind of? He didn't like way, way, right? He just got a different house. Yeah, relative same area. Nice. Good deal.

Well, it's always cool to kind of see how, you know, some of our crew get together. And then was he the tipping point for you starting to listen to Massonomics, him just kind of egging you on a few times about it? and didn't you go to the Arnold? Oh, yeah, absolutely. And I've gotten to meet some cool people, like his cousin Andy, great guy. We're actually, I think I'll stay in together, the Lift Hard Alivey. Oh, nice.

Good deal. Well, tell me about this, the vocational program you've created at work. It sounds pretty nifty and pretty helpful to youths. Yeah, so we did this program for kids that either struggling to figure out where they landed. school or, you know, I'd say some slight developmental disabilities delays. So we would, we'd bring them in and do job study, but do job study with older adults because typically that group does well with older adults because typically older adults are a lot nicer than high school kids.

And so we would bring in, the first class was 12. And then right now, I believe they've got about 30 kids, two classes. And they do job training, hire kids through it. And it's been a great program for a lot of kids. You know, and I've gotten to meet and see just incredible change in some kids. There is, there's good and bad, but you'll never realize the connection that you've got. There's one kid. Unfortunately, he passed away earlier or late in 2025, Logan.

but, you know, just to see that positive impact in his life. And we were able to help him out and find something he loved. Like he, you could see the shine on his face when he came into work. So just to add that, it was so great. I did a vocational program in high school. So that was my connection there. Mine was athletic training and fitness. So I knew some people and they helped me get it rolling.

And it was and still is just a great thing. That's awesome, man. Well, I appreciate you looking out for that younger generation. Absolutely. Let's see. Do you got anything else that's jumping out for? We're getting to some games, Joey? No, let's do it.

All right. Big Andrew, we've got a game we like to call. Fuck Mary Kill. I'm going to give you a few different topics here, and you kind of go through it, and which one are you going to F, M, and K. So I'm going to keep it simple this week, I guess. We'll go biking, mountain biking, that is, hunting and lifting. biking, hunting, lifting,

FMK. I think as much fun as mountain biking is I'm going to kill mountain biking because, you know, it's cardio. Cardio is cardio. Party, no.

And I would probably that's a tough one between the two. I'm going to marry hunting and fuck lifting. And, And there's something weird about hunting where, like, it's exciting when you're successful and all that. I'll try to keep that part PG because I know that not everyone feels the same.

But it's exciting when you do that. But there's also something with nature. There's a lot of things people won't ever experience. There's nothing like sitting in the woods at 4 o'clock in the morning and watching the woods and listening to the woods wake up. like it is it is an experience that is incredible like if you ever have the chance to just sneak into nature and be a part of nature and experience that it is it's special good deal i can see that and i appreciate you not uh oh yeah emphasizing i kill so much stuff and i like i do feel like it was kind of funny not to harken on it we had like in like a matter of a couple weeks we had like two people that really liked wolves and like one person liked them because they were majestic and the other person like hunting them

and I'm like two sides of a coin for sure but yeah no I'm not a big hunter myself but I can appreciate the

having a hobby that just get you out of the house and get you to like just kind of peacefully like if that's like I could get

I could get on I could agree with just like going to do something and just getting like therapeutic yoga zen time out of it kind of

like oh yeah but yeah that is that is the FMK you have some Rushmore for him. Yeah.

Actually, I went to go with this one. Mount Rushmore, American Domestic Light Beers. Ooh. Ooh, that's good. Bush Lattees. They got to be out there. I think the

cores, but the little grenade bottles or whatever they're called, I think there's banquets. But it's got to be in that bottle because it just, it feels special. It's nothing different. It's just Rocky Mountain Water.

But it's special. I'm going to say Rainier beer, and that's only because it holds a special place in my heart because, oh no, I'm actually holding a chorus in that, but we were drinking rainier beer.

Every time I go do something stupid, I send my mother this picture, which is actually my Discord picture, and I say, hey, if I die, this is my O-bit pick. So, so I always think of that. And then Montucky cold snacks, which are Montana light beer. And if you drink enough of them, the horse on the can turns into a unicorn.

I feel like that's a challenge. I'll have to take your word for that. Oh, it is. They also do, I don't remember, it might be June or something, but I do think they actually corn on the can. That's funny. Have you been to Montana then? Or is that a beer that is in Ohio?

Because I've never heard of a Montana, whatever you just said. Montucky cold snacks. So they do have them in Ohio now. I had them, me and my buddies travel and watch Browns games. We'll do one a year. It's a terrible hobby. It hurts your soul because there's not a lot of good football to be watched. But we were in Minnesota, and they had some out there.

I've never had this before. Let me try it. it's it is beer that is that's what i can say about it it is beer check uh okay i like this one uh keith i'm gonna do uh just a quick one here yeah no you're good um and i'm gonna challenge you on this one don't explain why okay mount rushmore historical figures you wish you could punch in the face yeah no no politics no explanations Just give me their names.

And then I want to hear how people react to that. Interesting. They don't have to be political to be historical. That is true. Okay. I'm guessing Jerry. That feels weird question. It was a very intriguing when I read it.

I was like, ooh, that could be good. I think. Oh, that's a tough one. I have a... I don't want to get super aggressive with it, but let's go. I mean, it's already a punch in the face. I don't know how less aggressive you can get. I'm not going to, it's not super historical, but it's somewhat historical.

Bruce Jenner, probably. And again, not super historical, but A-Rod. He does have a punchable personality, doesn't it? Yeah. Joe Buck Again, none of these are historical, but I would love to punch Joe. It's your game, as we like to

Then go LBJ. All right, I love it. No explanation. I just wanted to see how somebody would answer that kind of question. I like it. I like it. All right. You pass Mount Rushmore, I guess, twice. I dig it. I dig it. All right, guys. So we got some more affiliates for you if you haven't already heard. Barbell Rescue, Home JimCon, Apparel from the Strength Co. So Barbell Rescue, keep using that code there. Kim has got all kinds of good stuff for you. Home JimCon, I can't talk about it good enough. I can't talk about how good it is enough. So really, now that it's on the Hall of Fame check mark, you got to go. I couldn't imagine being the wrong side of the horse's ass is history or however they want to say it. You know, just come. And that's about that. So, Unpaid or underrated.

Do you want to do the honors again, Andrew, and tell everyone how we play it, or do me to handle that? Yeah, I can do it. So, you know, nobody likes being unpaid. So unpaid would be bad. And underrated, you know, things that are underrated are typically good. So that's the, I would say, the dumb down, tell me like I'm three years old. That's how I like it. All right.

I have a few. So we might end up going over four or three, but we'll see. So unpaid or underrated, we'll circle back to the story we'd started earlier. many farmers handles. Yeah, so I would say on the whole, they are underrated. I think they're a great tool. They're a great space saver. Mine are sitting in my

rafters in my basement right now. But one thing you have to be very, very careful of is you need to have collars on because theoretically, if you are taking them up your friend's stairs while you're moving them out of maybe Ray Hill Strong Jim,

you could get like nine steps up and 445s could fall off and then all bounce down the stairs and theoretically break the nosing of a stair Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Nice. So yeah, put callers on them. You wouldn't want that to happen.

You wouldn't want that, theoretically. Do the ones you have, shouldn't, do they not flange up or like flare up a hair or is it just straight? Like, I think, I think, it just, yeah, doesn't look like it goes up.

Yeah. Nice. All right. Now that we were talking about stairs, I will do a quick little story. So I had, when I had some people over there a couple weeks ago, Chris Mark,

I asked him to help me. I had an extra 200, I have two, 225 sandbags and one, they had, they were both in the garage and I wanted one in the basement, but like,

I tried multiple times myself to like get it in the house. I was like, I can't, like, this is like would be a PR bag on a flat level surface. I can't, like, kill myself trying to get it upstairs, turn, downstairs, etc. So, like, Chris was over and I had

him do it. And it was the first time I think I really was worried about my staircase collapsing, because it's just like a free, it's not like a super well-made staircase. And it's just floating there, basically. Oh, yeah. And, like, we heard creaks in the, because I was kind of right in front of him, help him, like, basically, like, not fall, I think. I don't even remember, but it was bad. And, like, we were kind of, like, playing it back in hers, like, we could have died. Like, you could have fallen from like eight feet in the air with a 220-5-on sandbag in here, broke both your fucking legs. Like,

it could have been bad. So we're not going to do that anymore. Any more sandbags that come in or got to come in empty or half full because, yeah, that was like, like 600 pounds on one step, basically. And I was like,

we can't, or, well, like, 550 pounds, whatever. I was like, we can't do this again. Like,

it's not good. So that was my stair story to follow up your stair story. Um, good deal. Unpaid or underrated. Kevin Stefansky. Oh, Kevin Stefansky is quite a polarizer. I'm going to say that Kevin's unpaid.

And I wanted him to be so good. Two-time coach of the year, isn't he? I know, but when you can't get an answer, right? It kind of does. I don't know. When he can't give an answer in a post-game interview and it's we're going to just look at this, and that's the same answer for two years and you get the same product.

I do think that Kevin Stefansky isn't the problem with the Brown's organ. A little higher up than Andrew Barry, but that's just... Good deal. Good answer. Unpaid or underrated, the Brown's new stadium that's literally by the airport and like half underground in a basement. If I could be more aggressive than unpaid, I would. I'm not a fan. I think domes are dumbest fucking looking thing, isn't it? Oh, yes, I'm so, so aggressively unpeated.

They must have got such a tax write off or something. Like, there's no reason you would put it there and have this, like, awkward underground stadium that looks like a fucking, like, a, like, it looks like a fucking T.J. Max from the outside. I mean, it looks just like a weird box building. Like, it's, I don't know. It's terrible. When's that, when's that open up? It's probably got to be like 2030 or 20. Okay.

So, but they're like. actively building it now or starting it, right? I think they're like in planning, you know, as to- Oh, so the ground actually hasn't broke construction, or construction-en-brook-so. Okay, okay. You know more about it than me.

I just, I've seen it, I've seen the post, and I'm just like, that's the ugliest fucking stadium I've ever seen. Like, we're going to continue to be the laughing stock because we're putting a billion dollars underground in this fucking box. Like, it looks so stupid. Okay, I'm glad you agree. Yes. All right.

And my last one, I usually don't do four, but I get a good one. I should have a story with it. So unpaid or underrated mailboxes? Ah, mailboxes. Mailboxes are, they're underrated for a lot of reasons. They're underrated because, you know, they're good backstops. If you jump out of a car and you tackle them. Or if you take a potato cannon and slide open a minivan door and fire a potato through a mailbox,

you know, they can really take a beating in multiple ways. You know, not that, you know, high school kids do dumb things. and we may or may not have tackled some mailboxes out of the ground. Luckily, the mailboxes were intact. So, you know, it didn't destroy anybody's property. We just moved their property. Yeah, I did some dumb vandalism shit like that as a teenager as well. I'm not proud of it.

But that was one of the best things that have. And we getting caught doing that, you know, straightened. We would have kept doing dumb stuff. And we straightened up and flew right after that. Yep, straight like Tanner. Real quick, I just noticed when you leaned forward, so the top quarter pivots down, or is that just like a... Yeah, so it's the Rit Fit Gator. So you can do that as like the, you can do it like a military bench kind of thing and...

Yeah, so sides out kind of like the freak athlete thing. I'm not opposed to getting something like that just for the varro-a, because it does suck on military presses with like a tall-ass bench behind me. I kind of want my neck free. Yeah, you know, it's nice. All right, that's all I got for you, brother. All righty. Okay, my turn. unpaid or underrated.

Cigars. Oh, definitely underrated. Love them. Love them dearly. Romeo E. Juliet would be my go-to. I think they're just a good, classic, easy to go to. But I go through swings up and down. I don't have anywhere in the winter because it's just too cold to do that.

But if I was like the president of North Dakota and it was warm all the time, I'd be smoking all the time. When I smoke cigars, I was still outside in the winter. Yeah. I'm more of a situational cigar smoker. Do you have a fire pit? I've got three.

Yeah, nothing beats a fire pit at night, in the winter, you just got a blanket on your back and the fire on the front and you're just having a stogie. So Romeo and Julieta is your go-to. That's Cuban.

Do you enjoy anything else? Oh, God, now. I am I'm spacing on it I can see it but I can't remember what it is but similarly I like the mild cigars more than anything

and depending on what you're doing probably like the shorter shorter but fatter so if you close your eyes and picture what the word looks like and try spelling it for us and maybe that might make it worse that might make it worse that's the joke

I do enjoy a good Nicaraguan. Those are usually my favorite. I find they're a little more peppery and leathery. I like those. Unpaid or underrated. Getting drunk at a sports game. I go back and forth on this because it depends on the level of drunk. Because if you get too drunk, you're going to miss it.

And that would be unpaid. But the right kind of drunk is. It's fun. You have a little bit of recklessness so long as you're not too reckless because kids also go to sports games. I would say underrated, but there is a there's a guy we get pictures with every year. And if you've ever seen the drunk Browns fan on Instagram, he's friends with a buddy of mine. So we get pictures with him. And he's a great guy besides the Instagram things. But getting that drunk would probably be unpaid. No, I agree. Another one I would like. Unpaid or underrated. Camping on a deflated air mattress. Unpaid. Unpaid.

As much as I like being outside, maybe I'm bad at camping, but I hate it all around. I have never had a good experience camping. So, unpaid. That trip was a fun one. It was with Kevin and his wife, Jesse. And the best picture we have is a picture of our dog who's a Mastiff Great Dane with a hoodie on sitting on a chair because he's pissed he has to sleep outside

okay I think you back is that why he destroyed Kevin's stairs because you were still pissed off about the camera it might have been you know that subconsciously like oh Jesus take the wheel whatever happens but then he had to fix them no Kevin fixed him oh Kevin fixed him yeah

I didn't even have to say sorry got to go oh yeah that's pregnant I gotta go take care of that wow at least it was his old house At least it was the house he was moving out of So he could just like throw a scab fix on it

And kind of half ass it whereas if it was his new house That he just dropped hundreds of thousands of dollars on And you fucked up the stairs I'd be like all right motherfucker You gotta like fix these professionally So that worked out Well you passed unpaid and underrated You did you did well

So typically we just let people kind of If you got anything for us I guess one last thing I'd want to follow up on I just, so you knocked out the backlog in like six months. That's pretty impressive. I know we kind of touched on it a little bit here and there, but is there anything else you want to share about your backlog journey, you know,

what you got out of. Just anything because that's, that's a lot of massonomics in six months that you saw the evolution of, especially while trying to still listening. I couldn't do it. So like, kudos to you. It took me three years, four years.

It was six months and four days. Is where I ended up. And I don't know, for me, it was fun to watch the guys, uh, grow through it and watch the audio grow through it because at the beginning it was you know tin can radio and i remember there was one episode they did outside i think at tommy's

house and you can hear a lawnmower yeah so you know there's that sort of stuff but it was like for me at the time yeah i wasn't in a great place personally so it was super therapeutic um you know it was it was exciting to start a new episode and it was successful so they it helped me a lot personally. And also I learned a lot about hydration because the flex flask how important hydration is. But I don't know, it was fun.

Now I like going back and watching the YouTube. I just watched the party cast a couple weeks ago just to kind of see, you know, what actually happened. Because the audio, just listening to that is special. It's special. So you knocked out there backlog and you got half of ours through. how would you say our backlog isn't it's therapeutic or what do you think?

Because it's like you're learning about you're learning that you're in the unique position where you've had to have listened to at least a handful of episodes of people you've met in person briefly at the Arnold and stuff. So like I guess like I don't get, we don't get to experience that. Like how cool would that be to like listen to an episode of someone that you've already met or someone that you do meet? Like I just know. I think it's very cool.

I think it's great and I think it's a useful tool. So I was going to go lift with Hogan. And we had met before, but it was just going to be me and Hogan. So I popped his episode and listened to it. And I was like, now I've got a couple little tidbits we can chat about. So for anybody who's on the fence or doing that, like, it is great for that for those little ice breakers. You know, I didn't know Hogan Polvalded.

I Polvaled. We could talk about that. That's awesome. And jump those things together. So that's been really fun. And to watch the evolution, like you guys started well, but to see your, your banter back and forth now. and how you flow through your segment.

It's real good. We appreciate that. I didn't, it wasn't, it probably sounded and looked like I was fishing for compliments. It really wasn't. I am just, it was more curious because we keep getting more people that like,

talk about our podcast and like, are bringing up old episodes. And I'm like, I still don't know who this person is. Like, I don't know who you are. It's awesome that you're listening to our podcast. Reach out to me on Instagram and because I,

I'll relate to that as being who you are more than just a blank profile that I don't recognize. But I think it's just, I'm flattered and happy and giddy that people are finding us like three years later, in some cases and listening to our old shit. I think that's just cool as fuck. It makes me still validated, I guess, that all the work we've been putting in wasn't for not. Absolutely.

I've been getting some good positive side of that. And hopefully, you know, it's working for you. So yeah, do you have anything for us before we let everybody go to bed? I do. I got a question for each and then a question for both. So they're both FMKs. I'll start with Joey. Mm-hmm.

So I've got deadlifts, stones, and Alexander Keith. That's funny. I feel like we've had something like this before. Could be. Kill Keith's, right? Because I could drink any beer. That's true. That's a good point.

Yeah. Like, actually, Miller Light right now. Yeah. Like, I can move on from that. It is my favorite beer, but it's also a $1.50 more per can than most average beers. So it's really going to come down to stones or deadlift. And the stones include natural stones or just Atlas stones? I guess you get to any type of rock, maybe.

I assume if they're asking me, it's natural stones. Because I don't actually have Atlas. That's fair. Yeah, you do have natural. Natty stones. That's right. I'm going to marry deadlifts and fuck stones, which is true. true in real life. Like you wouldn't,

you wouldn't do stones every day. All the time. You could deadlift twice a week. You should not do natural stones twice a week. Because your arms would just be chewed to hamburger if you're not wearing tape or sleeves or something. Yep. You are not right. I like that.

Yeah. That, I love lifting my stones, but every time I do, it's just one of those like, okay, I'm going to have to deal with these cuts for a couple days. Yeah.

And just taping help with that? Or is it just kind of useless? I've never tried. I've always just chalked and hoped for the best. Yeah. Okay. And then for Keith, I've got, it's a, it's a Brown's quarterback since 99 FMK. So you got Johnny Menzel.

Okay. Deshaun Kaiser. And he was responsible for the O and 60s. And then a little bit of a deep cut. Spurgeon win. he started seven games. He threw zero touchdowns, one interception, and his career,

he had one TD and seven interceptions. Okay, so I'm going to kill Kaiser because he was just a one season done. I think we took him in the second round maybe and was like, oh, this is going to be our new guy. And he just did nothing. He was on, yeah, he was like I said, he was on the literal winless team.

I think he was a backup for Green Bay for a couple years after that was out of the league by the time he was like 25 probably so not great which leaves me to I guess I have to fuck Mansell solely because like he just seems like someone you would fuck like Tanner would can't Tanner would fuck Johnny so I'd fuck Johnny um because he'd just be the party guy like and I don't want to so I actually saw Manzell's his first play like his first playing time at Buffalo Stadium at the Bill Stadium like you know in 2000 whatever 12 or something And in my mind, I was like, this could be like,

I could have personally witnessed in person, like the start of a Hall of Fame career in like the Brown Savior. And clearly that didn't happen. So fuck him and I'll fuck him. And then, yeah, when, why not? Like, it's the one person that, like, you didn't expect anything from him and he didn't let you down. So that's the type of marriage I want, I guess.

That is true. I like that. Realistic expectations are helpful. I like that. And then for both of you. What is your favorite back catalog episode and why? And why is it Julian Pennet? I couldn't.

Was that you really want a real answer, though, I'm guessing? Yeah, real answer. Yeah. That's hard. I'll go if you don't have it. So I'm going to just, so it might not be my favorite episode to listen to, but it is what it is, I'm going to go with the first episode I ever listened to being the, the West Side versus the world, dude, just because of it wasn't.

for that episode, I literally wouldn't have the life that I have right now and like the extra 150 like close personal friends, if you will, that I have now. I wouldn't say all their old ones. Like I, that's the one that sticks out to me the most specifically because it's nostalgic of it wasn't for that episode. I wouldn't have downloaded. I wouldn't have subscribed to the podcast. Like I, it was the first week of COVID. It was their new episode. He had to shared a story of it or some shit. And I was like, oh, I'll get this a shot. And then literally, you know, within a couple months later. I had a start of my backlog journey and here we are now

with crew is like a good quarter of my life, I feel like, which probably might be a little bit too much, but such as life. Can I give two? Absolutely. Okay, um, 176. So I started around 220 something.

I'll figure that out eventually. Like I, I fairly certain the one I remember most with Jen Thompson, but I think I listened to a couple before Jan. So I'm somewhere in that era is when I joined with massonomics. I bought a flag, found out they had a podcast, like you, had never listened to podcasts at all. And then, and jumped right in.

So going to the backlog and listening to two episodes probably per day to try and get through the ones I've missed, the first time you hear the regular opening, not Tyler's voice, but you hear the opening that goes with the YouTube videos. That was so refreshing, and I felt like I finally overcame a hump. Like I felt like I finally overcame, now I'm at the Masanomics I know and love.

The other one is Powerd Wire. Yep. Yeah, the guys make me laugh. I don't think I've ever laughed as hard as anything during Pa's episode. Is Tanner a name? Is Tanner a name? Is that a thing? And he's like, is Paa name?

It's like, yeah, it's my name. And knowing Paa did not do podcast, he did not like the limelight, he did not like any of that stuff. And he still did what he did. And now that we've lost him, it means even more. Um, but yeah, I still, I said it in the Discord and I'll say it here. Imagine listening to that episode for the first time now knowing he's gone. And just hearing who he was, how funny he was, how genuine he was, and how good he was. And, uh, you know, like that's an episode.

I think I would go back and listen to again just for that feeling and that nostalgia and that memory. It definitely would not be any of the Julian Panowe. Yeah, same. When they were joking about the episode 500, I am not listening. I'm not listening to another one of those episodes. You know, actually, it came up on my memories today that they said they're going to have Liver King on. And I think the post I said was, I can't decide if I hate him more or like massonomics more. This will be the first episode I skip.

Yeah. If I have to hear about internal torque one more time, I'm good. So answer your own question then as someone that's more fresh with the whole backlow. So probably there was an idea. It would have been probably in the 80s. But there was an episode where they were talking, and I'm going to be, I'll get hate for this. They were talking CrossFit.

And they were talking through who won games and this and that. And that's like right when I stopped lifting. And for me, it was like, oh, this can catch me up. And this is like back to what I loved. You know, it was Rich Froning and all that other stuff. I was like, this is it. I don't remember exactly. But it was when they would do the recaps of all that.

Yeah. So for me, that was Tyler would stay. Yeah, Tyler would recap all the CrossFit and they'd be like, yeah. Is that the one where they had guns for the awards? That is, I mean, CrossFit. Like the first couple CrossFit shows. That would have been around that. I had a buddy of mine who was at one of those first CrossFit games.

15, 16, 17, something like that. Maybe sooner. Like, okay, as a Canadian, okay, we're not as gun upset. as some Americans are. So you travel down to the CrossFit games. You go through all this. You happen to win. And they're like, here's a gun.

And you're like, what do I do with this? I can't bring it home. I don't want it. Like, do you want this back? Or if you do bring it home. Oh, there's such a weird choice. Yeah. Oh, it's kind of, it's like,

a it's a weird or sword award well like even the sword award as well if you traveled by flight you're like i have to explain a lot of things i think a lot of those just get a handgun competition people just don't bring them with them a handgun you know what you have to explain you are pulled into offices as somebody who gets searched every time i go to the airport yeah it's wild It's wild. But, you know, I know the episode you're talking about. Yeah, so that, that for me would be what mine is.

And that is all I have. Love it. Appreciate you, my mind. Good questions. Well, we will see you at Lift Hard Live Easy. Well, I will see you with Lift Hard Live Easy here in a couple months. Hopefully you get your tickets for Home GymCon, Code Unpaid, see you there as well. Do you think crew falls will be in your, you?

Are you excited about, well, because this is your first South Dakota trip, right? Yes. I mean, crew falls probably wouldn't happen this year, but like future travel, do you think that's something that's going to be on your bucket list? Oh, absolutely. You know, if I could get, I was talking to my wife, I was like, if we could get the kids and go out there, it'd be a little tough this year, but maybe the next year, that would be awesome.

kind of like, I think Tom's doing that for the lift hard living. Mm-hmm. You know, that sort of thing. It's great. That'll be awesome, man. Well, we will see you here in a few months. And, you know, everyone go give Andrew a follow. Where are they going to find you at, buddy?

Instillus Vano. I'm going to spell that for them because this one might need to be spelled. Oh, see, you know, this is where this dyslexia comes. Oh, no, I wasn't even trying to be mean. No, I'm just messing with you. I'm just messing with you. Because it's such a weird, when people have, like, fake names like this, it's like, wait, is that a word? Is that spelled funny?

Like, however you spell Insta and then less L-E-S and then V-A-N-O. There you go. All right. Big Jerry, where you got? Joey underscore M-L-E-C-Z-K-O. Instagram, unpaid and underrated podcast, the website, Unpaid Internpodcast.com. Go give us all kinds of comments in the Discord.

You guys have been doing great. That is the U-N-U channel in the Massonomics Discord specifically. We love seeing engagement there. It makes our day. I am Keith Honeycutt 73 on Instagram. More importantly, go follow my orange shim, the no wine seller. Until then, see you next Tuesday.

Do you, I wanted to ask on the podcast, but I want to put you on the spot. What, why, what do you do with your big ass fucking inflatable ball back there? I was going to ask the same thing. I used to like, like, lay on that and like my, my shitty, my shitty coach had me to do like, like, fucking dumbbell flies and all kinds of stupid shit. So I do, my wife uses it more than I do, especially now with the pregnancy, but I'll do ab stuff with it, like, where you put your feet on the, ball and kind of pull it in. A glued ham roller almost. Yeah, and then I have a bigger

one that I'll do like incline dumbbell press. Just I like, I'm a big fan of the instability stuff. With the big balls. The big balls. Yeah, I love playing with big balls. The pregnancy thing makes sense actually because I think when Morgan was pregnant

with our second, we had one of those for her because it was so uncomfortable. Like, Saga was just so big. And she just was like, I need something and I think that the midwife suggested one of those. We have since deflated it and gotten rid of it because it has no use for me in my life right now. I'm getting close to just deflate him because I don't use them.

This is the first adjustable bench I've had. And I love that you use it as your chair the entire. That might be the, I don't, I think people might have sat on a bench before, but not like when the upright position, like as a legitimate chair. like it's just a scholastic school table chair. I just get a kick out of that. Just use this chalk bowl as the. Oh, that's actually pretty cool too.

I took the bowl. This is Kevin, so I'm building one for him too. Nice. And I was like, I'm just going to use it as a stand. It's perfect tight. Is the wall behind you a block wall?

Is it a, is it an exterior foundation wall or is it like an interior wall? Or is it like an interior wall? Because the fact that I see ducks going through it. That's what I figured. I was like, why is it got, it's got ducks.

coming out of it halfway up, which is weird to begin with. And then it can't be an exterior wall. I was so confused. Okay, I got you. So it's a split level house. So I've got a very small big. Negative on the, that's, it is a negative. That's why I love the ranch is the perfect layout.

The only thing would make my house better if it was like two stories. Like if it was a, if we took the roof off and spent another 150 grand and just put a second story on. Because a full size, thousand square foot basement is like a necessity for a big home gym. Oh, yeah. A medium size home gym. Hong Kong.