Unpaid And Underrated - 159 : Wet Rock Paper Scissors (ft. Big Scott)

Episode Date: May 26, 2026

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Scott. They dive right into great topics like the new Ü&Ü shirt, Crü meetups, country music, wings, bugs, the basics of strongman, and pencil t...opers. Links Ü&Ü Hoodie Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab Get Your Own Keith Head Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast Our Guest Big Scott on Instagram @scottsliftingpage Big Morgan on Instagram @morgansmonsters Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar @joey_mleczko Special Guests: Big Morgan and Big Scott.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Dude do-d-d-do-do-do-do-do-d-do-to-d-do-d-d-le-d. Death. De-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Nate! Dad-da-do-da-da-da-dhaid. Man, I hope that's the right chat. Welcome back, everybody, to episode. I'm totally blanking on a number of the unpaid and underrated podcast,
Starting point is 00:00:54 a podcast by crew for crew, mocked by crew, called out by crew, and loved apparently today by crew. Let's jump into what we normally talk about. What do you guys drinking? Oh, just whatever water stuck in the strong and silly pint from two years ago.
Starting point is 00:01:12 You'll never get it out. I just keep refilling the can with tap water. Hose water. You don't use tap water. We used to be a proper country. I just got some, you know, good old high quality H2O.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Me, I've got a, you know, I got a beer. I've got some root beer, PC sparkling water. I'm prepared for the night. I've got ammonia still in my nose.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Wait, who's talking? Because like, I know you're Joey and I'm Keith, but we never told people that. Do we do that? No. thing we do every episode. We're also joined by
Starting point is 00:01:47 Scots, because his name is Scott, space, S. Scotts is so many, there's so many Scots. With everyone that knows my vision's going, that just looks like Scots from here, and I'm just like trying to piece it together. Yeah, Scots. We've got you know, Mr. Scots. We've got a bunch of Scots. Yeah, it's a good point.
Starting point is 00:02:03 We probably should have done that. I'm just too excited. Again, right hit of ammonia five minutes ago, 10 minutes ago. I am losing it right now. So was that it? Was that Is that what I forgot? Thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:17 So far. I am wearing the Massonomics shirt that is falling apart. Lame. Yeah, I know, I know. Carol streams ahead of me on this level. You literally don't have it.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I was giving you shit. I don't have it. No, I don't have it. That's funny. I'm rocking the new Massonomics and unpaid underrated collab shirt that dropped today. So we'll get into that a little bit later.
Starting point is 00:02:42 But yeah, it is a comfort color black shirt. so you can't go wrong with it, but we'll get in a little backstory and lore about it here in the next 20 minutes or so. But just get through the general topics and then we'll tease you a little bit there. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. We'll get through the announcements first. We'll do half an hour of announcements. Then we'll get into the title topics, right? Yep.
Starting point is 00:03:03 That's what we do. What are you wearing over there, Scots? I am wearing the bench heavy shirt. That's a good one. Good one. Good one. even though I don't bench heavy But you know
Starting point is 00:03:17 Heavy's a feeling I do think you're strong man pretty heavy But we'll talk about that later when we get the guest on Okay So updates from the week I did not get to watch Katie's thing yet But I will because I love Katie So I definitely want to make sure I view that when I get a chance
Starting point is 00:03:37 I did watch it but I might have to unfollow the Instagram that she has Because I mean it says no parking zone and she fucking parks in it. Well, okay, caveat. Her husband parks in it. But like, it's a two-star garage. It looks more like a one-and-a-half-star garage, honestly. But his car squeaks right in beside the rack.
Starting point is 00:03:53 But I don't know if I've just never noticed the car in the background or what. But yeah, it definitely has a car. Well, there's no parking for you. There's only parking for one car. I guess that makes sense. Well, you know, Keith, it's good. You call it the no wine cellar, but I'm hearing an awful lot of wine over there. I'm upstairs.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I mean, the image on the screen, dictates I am in the basement, but I am in a, I am in the bedroom. So I don't technically, but then again is like, is the garage, the no wine cellar, like, I don't know. But yes, too, too she, fucker. But no, good video. The boys always hit it out of the park. It's always fun seeing our friends on there. Like the episodes where it's like new people that I don't know, it's just kind of like, oh, yeah, cool, it's a gym. But then like, when is your friends that you've known for three years? It's like, oh, that's fucking awesome. I've like seen her gym on Instagram for literally three or four years. And now it's like seeing weird corners you don't see on
Starting point is 00:04:42 Instagram and shit like that. It was kind of nifty. So good video. Go check that out if you haven't. Yeah. So follow up. I did, I did go to Cam's House on Saturday. Me and Big Steve and Big Anastasia, both crew members, went and we essentially did as many of the events from Lift Hard, Live Easy as we could at whatever weights we could. I won't give you all of their results because that's not my job to do. I will say that, I did not hit a lot of the weights that I thought I would. My press is severely underrated because of my, or sorry, unpaid.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Yes, I don't know what underrated means. Yeah, I just, the pain in my arm just made it. I got the 70-pound circus dumbbell. Could not get the 85. I did get the 35s up on the tsunami bar. I didn't get a chance to try the 45s. and then did get the 115 log, I think, is what it is empty. And then not realizing he set it to 130, I failed that miserably as well.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Your elbows are fucked. That's justifiable. Oh, yeah, I can barely extend my arm straight as it is, but, like, I wasn't not going to try. You're not pretending then, you know, in. I am pretending that my arm actually extends. So then after that, we did, what did we do? I think we went into Max deadlift. Yeah, I saw you did a decent pull there.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Well, that was 405. And, you know, I haven't pulled off the ground more than twice in the past couple of months. And I definitely have not lifted over 400 pounds in a year. And that went up pretty damn easy. Yeah, it wasn't hard. No. I was spaced out a little bit or was it just a deadlift bar? I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:06:32 It was the Bells of Steel deadlift bar, actually. and what we did was we kind of... As best poorly reviewed on Jim Raider? By many. Yeah. You can go ahead and read my review on Jim Radar. It's, it is what it is. But what we did was in order to kind of meet the mammoth bar,
Starting point is 00:06:55 we just slid the weights out. And we did use other Big Tanner's Husker locks as well. I got to experience those for the first time. I hadn't told you he is on the count. He's going to be our last. guest before Home JimCon, FYI. Yeah, no, I am aware of that. Him and I have been talking, actually.
Starting point is 00:07:11 And so, yeah, that 405 went up pretty easily. And it was one of those things that scared me, how easy it went up. Because I haven't lifted anything like that in a very long time, especially with all of my other lifts kind of going down. I was worried my deadlift was going down. I think I might be pushing for a 500. deadlift in the next year. Good.
Starting point is 00:07:37 I think that might... Chase something in your old age. I wasn't sure. Like, when you said scared, like, you're still confused of whether you use that terminology. Like, but I get, so you're excited, you were happy.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Like, it goes up. Scared, I didn't understand. And you can see in the video, I go, still got it, but in my head, I'm going, oh, no, like, that used to hurt. This did not hurt. This was very easy.
Starting point is 00:08:00 And then, you don't, were you wearing elbow sleeves, or does it not hurt your elbows when you deadlift? Because I know a lot of guys have elbow pain when they did. I might, have been wearing my elbow sleeves, but mostly just again to protect the tendons in my
Starting point is 00:08:09 in my right arm. Yeah, so yeah, I might be chasing that. I got to flip a tire for the first time. Oh, fuck you in your tire. Well, you know what? So I was nervous because I know how dangerous it can be. And Cam was like, it's 200 pounds, relax. And I was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:30 But you can literally see in the video when I flip it and I stare at it, like, that should have been harder. So that was interesting. The sandbag over the bar is a, I did that once or twice. And then I went to do the keg. And that was when my elbow said, you are done for the day, sir.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I got it up into my lap. I went to stand up with it. And my arm just ceased. So I was like, I have to call it a day because I can't, I work with my arms. I can't, I can't be injured.
Starting point is 00:08:57 But that was it. So that was the Ontario crew meetup. Very brief, very fun. Cam, thank you for having us here. an amazing, amazing host and good friend. And that is my update on my most recent mock meet. I guess we would call that.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Nice. It sounds like fun. We will correct you from, we will do some checks and balances from last week. I believe you said something the extent of, that you didn't think you could wear elbow sleeves on the press medley. It is 100% inaccurate. Yes, that is actually, thank you for calling out. I think I was going to call you out on it live last night. I think I was just too tired by the time I was reading my head. I was like, wait, that's wrong. I read the thing and I thought it.
Starting point is 00:09:33 said elbow sleeves not allowed and I did get corrected Dodd's message to me actually to be like no they are allowed and I was like dope because I'm doing it anyway yeah you're almost never going to have a press a pressing event without the allowance of elbows no good yeah no I was wrong again Joey on that that uh that uh let's the massonomics episode big scott did you uh did you get chance to consume, listen, partake in the massonomics episode from last week? Yeah. So I always like hearing Tanner gripe about the very, like, petty inconveniences of, like, owning a commercial gym.
Starting point is 00:10:13 I think it's hilarious. It's like, it's never anything serious. It's just, you know, like, I mean, occasionally it is. Like, someone breaking the toilet. Breaking a toilet nine times and three months is probably kind of serious at that point. And then let's tune in. Yeah, that's a little bit more than a petty grief. events for sure.
Starting point is 00:10:31 But yes, I know what you're talking about. 90% of the stuff he touches base on is like, yeah, it would still annoy the shit out of you though. Makes you know what I would. Yeah. So I would give that episode, five out of five disorganized wall control panels. Nice.
Starting point is 00:10:47 What about you, Joe? Did you watch it? I listened, as I always do. I watched some of it because I want to point out, I think I messaged you and only you about it. When Tanner was describing the D&D episode for our three-year anniversary, very animated. The smile on his face made me so happy because it looked like he genuinely enjoyed the silliness of that episode.
Starting point is 00:11:15 And that was about the time I had to stop watching because kids started yelling at me. But I listened to the rest. I still have no clue what a jammer arm is. I don't think I've ever touched a jammer arm. I can explain it to you later when we're not up against the wall Because I'm glad I'm not the only one Yeah, like the whole time I'm listening I get this big smile on my face
Starting point is 00:11:36 I'm like I have no clue what's going on But I'm happy to be a part of it like I have no Yeah so Give that five out of five What the hell is a jammer arm? There you go Yeah the wall control I can I can
Starting point is 00:11:51 I can always correlate something that Tanner complains about in his gym Something happens here which just makes me chuckle because, yeah, I'll have a lift party here. And a month later, I'll still be moving attachments around, and the fucking plates will be on the trees in the wrong way and shit like that. So five out of five, inaccurately placed wall control items, which I think Scott already took, but close enough. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Yeah, so big thing happened today for us. We finally got to release our second shirt. Two years in the making, almost exactly. Almost exactly. Literally within like a few weeks of selling the last one. Yeah, that was the, that was the coolest, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:32 thing to me. Yeah. A lot of work went into this. I don't know how much, I think they touched on it briefly, but I do want to say like it was a design, Nate's idea to kind of make it look like a old school music poster.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Like a 70s band poster? Yeah. T-shirt. Well, I mean, I'm assuming the T-shirts looked like that as well. Yeah. But yes, the band poster, if you. And then we decided we had an artist in the house.
Starting point is 00:13:00 And that artist is Malav Morgan, who I'm going to attempt to get on to take my place for a few minutes. And I think Keith, you have some questions. Scott, if you have any questions, feel free to ask. I didn't get any from the crew. But, uh, yeah, I think that now's a good time to see if she's available. One second. Uh, big Scott, did you put your order in for the shirt? Because if not, I mean, I don't think we're able to get you on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:13:25 it's okay i have i have not yet keyword yet good yeah well we're sold out of most sizes so i would jump in if i were you uh the last update i have what size are you big scott
Starting point is 00:13:39 i am floating between a large and an extra large so either one i can make it work as of about an hour ago there were 10 larges left and 18 extra large is 8 2xs 5 3x and if i don't Did I say 10 large as yeah?
Starting point is 00:13:57 And so completely sold out as small as 4X. That was two hours. That was over an hour ago. I would assume that that number is probably depleted by another third. So I would say, you know, two hours into it, we had sold 50 plus, so we're probably sold 60 plus by now. And that's out of, I would assume, about 100. So 60% sold out in an hour and a half, two hours. That's pretty damn cool.
Starting point is 00:14:20 I don't think the red one did that good, considering it took two years to sell 100%. So. And with all that. that we'll introduce Big Joey's wife, Big Morgan. Hello, hello. How are you doing? Long time, no, C. I believe you're muted.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I don't know if he hit the mute button before he left. Might have to yell at him. Good job, Big Joey. You dumb-ass, Joey. This is actually kind of funny. She is muted, right? It's not just my audio. I'm not getting...
Starting point is 00:14:47 There we go. There we go. All right. Hello. Beautiful, beautiful. There we are. Well, I know you've got... If you got a little bit of time with us, or...
Starting point is 00:14:54 Yeah, about that. make Joey put the kids to bed. So we got you for as long as you want to be here. It's going to take a while. I know you were nervous about coming on. So we won't just say, hey, tell me about this. So we'll just kind of ask.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Yeah. So you knew that Joey, Nate and I, that Tanner basically had, you know, presented us with the opportunity to make a new one. I think it was right around the same time that you had been doing some, like, you know, some sketches, cocktail drawings, if you will,
Starting point is 00:15:18 of some new and you and you stuff that Joey wanted to do for some artwork, right? And then just take, you know, I can keep, And then Joey, you know, was he just like, hey, do you want to do this? Actually, I think the way it was printed. So originally, I made a couple little paintings that were you and you themed. And I remember after Nate found out that you guys were able to do a t-shirt and then he said,
Starting point is 00:15:42 let's just put that one on the t-shirt. Yeah. And I'm like, no, don't do that. That sounds like an awful printing process. It would be the worst. So I thought, well, I can try and do something similar. is that like that vibe the funky stuff going on so that's where that started nice and then uh it was kind of a quick turnaround from the time that i want to say it was like i don't know
Starting point is 00:16:07 with that sometime early march tanner was like hey do you want to do this and like we had shirts in our hands like a week ago so very quick turn around yeah i did not do a small amount of work it was a lot well we appreciate all your time and effort that went into it um Was that just something you were kind of working on after the kids went to bed or how much, how much time? If you had to put an estimate of how many billable hours we have to send a Tanner, we're talking like 20 hours, 40 hours, 60 hours. What do you think? A lot. I wish I had time.
Starting point is 00:16:39 So pretty much after the kids went to bed, I would work on it. When the kids went to school, I would work on it. And then try and do like your regular stay-at-home mom kind of stuff. Not great at the domestic arts, but tried my best. But yeah, I was treating it kind of like a full-time job before. a week and a half at least. Oh, dang. So I don't know how many hours I clocked in.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Too many. No, I mean, you can get, you get one you and you T-shirt out of it, and you have to share the other one with Joey, and, you know, you get a bunch of grateful crew. Maybe some stickers. I can probably get some stickers up to it. I'm just trying to think of their compensation. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I don't know what I'll be getting out of it. I mean, the best part, well, the cool part is just being able to see something that I was able to create and draw and design and see it. Just not even, I understand it's received a lot of love, but even just going out there and someone trusting me to do the process was amazing. So, yeah. Yeah, I did, did, you had kind of worked with Tommy there a lot too from what I guess. A little bit.
Starting point is 00:17:48 There was a lot of different group chats going. It was like, it was, it was Tanner talking to me and Nate. And then it was me, you. So it was Keith, Joey, Nate, and Morgan all in a chat. And then I think you at one point were talking to Tommy alone, possibly. And I was just like, there was so much. There was so much back and forth. And like every other day I'd have like three different chats with different images.
Starting point is 00:18:09 And I'm like, where am I supposed to respond or vote or like or talking? Yeah. I was a little bit needy with needing feedback. So I was probably bothering Tommy. more than conversing with him about it. But he was able to give me, like, all the specs and things like that. And, like, I had to do a lot of tweaking because the original design, I wanted it, like, full back. And that wasn't really translating to how the actual printing process worked.
Starting point is 00:18:42 So I learned some things. I would assume that, like, you have to have the same image that would, I mean, I guess is what would they say? It has to fit an extra small and a 4x and be, like, the same, like, 8. It's like the same stamp. It's essentially. It's like the same, well, it's a screen printing, but I wasn't sure how it was being printed, so I didn't understand. I thought, oh, it's ratio-based. No, it's essentially just one single stamp.
Starting point is 00:19:06 So my original plan for having it a full back wasn't necessarily that going to be like that for the 4X. And I had to make sure that things weren't too big for a small. So it was some restrictions that I wasn't used to. Very interesting. Yeah, we never really had the, yeah, we didn't have a, so like version one, it was just, I think, I didn't remember if Tanner even really, we had very minimal input on version one. And then we basically had all the input as a team on version two, which was kind of cool. Yeah. I know initially, you know, we all had a little bit of, you think before Nate and everybody kind of ran with the one that we ended up going with, I think, you know, we were kind of lost of like, well, I don't know what we're going to do. And then it was just going to be, yeah, yeah, let Tommy run with it. And then, It was like, you know, hindsight looking back now, I was like, I think it was a pretty damn good idea because of the shirt sold out or, you know, it is selling well and it's doing good. So I like the D&D episode. I maybe had my reservations at first. And I was like, what does this change? What is this new stuff? And I think I will crack, you know, some of it up to my vision is not very good anymore until I get my glasses. So it's like, oh, now I see it kind of thing. But oh, I think it's, I think it worked out good. I think we're happy. What, what? Was it like getting different feedback from three different people and one of them being your husband? Well, Joey is not necessarily fabulous for feedback when it comes to that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I've offered him many times. I'll make you a logo. I'll make you a design. I'll do this. And either he just doesn't seem to care, unfortunately, or just he's a little bit whatever about it. So sometimes like the DILF Dungeon stuff, I just made it. I'm like, I'm just going to make this for you. I'm not going to get your feedback on what font you want.
Starting point is 00:20:51 this or that, I'm going to make it. And he loved it. So I'm like, all right. And I tried to take that same approach to the t-shirt. Instead of trying to worry about too much of, I don't know if they're going to like it, I'm just going to have to do it and hope for the best. But being able to get feedback, like, this looks a bit too busy, this looks a bit too much here. Can you figure out how to do something for this? And that was very helpful with the designing process.
Starting point is 00:21:16 So I didn't mind getting lots of feedback. I was demanding it. Nice. Just critique me. Nice. I have a couple other questions, but I think it might be funnier just to kind of, because essentially it's what was your favorite part and what was the biggest challenges. So to me, that sounds like least fun and most fun.
Starting point is 00:21:33 So what would you know, kind of, you know, riff and use your druthers, least fun, most fun, just the whole process. So most fun was working on all the font. Like I fell in love with how I was able to make all those letters. Like I hand drew all of the lettering. in it. I was able to get that vibe it's like quicker every time I had to redo it because I had to redo them a couple of times. Even on the city like you the cities weren't just like.
Starting point is 00:22:02 No those were those were important. Okay that's what I was thinking I thought about like tracing over them or something just to have it like a little bit of a hand font going on but I think you still would have been working on it if that was the kid. Not as much as you might think but at the same time I was the least fun I think was during the last week, I didn't really get a ton of feedback. And then I saw how the mockup was working. And I'm like, oh, no, that's not working out at all. And I only had about four days to finish it because it had to get sent off to the next day. And I think Tommy was visiting family.
Starting point is 00:22:39 So I was desperately trying to get feedback from him during that. And it was difficult because he just has a life. He's not messaging me on a Sunday night. So that was a bit difficult. Yeah, and I think insider, you know, behind the scenes there, I want to say that Tanner sent us what he thought was the proof, like, ready to, I think they actually already had submitted it to the printer, and it ended up being a pocket logo, which we had initially talked about,
Starting point is 00:23:07 a full front chest logo, and we were still debating on the sizes, I thought. And then Tanner was like, we submitted these like three days ago, and we're like, okay. I mean, it would have worked out fine, I guess. I think it still had been fine. I had a panic attack. I saw that. Because we were all like, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I was like, um, yeah. That's almost what you get when you have like, we're like three or four different parties and who's talking to who and who's communicating with who. But I think the end result is the sales kind of showed it. The crew showed up. I mean, that was,
Starting point is 00:23:36 that was cool for, that was the coolest thing for me. Yeah, 100% is knowing that, uh, our friends are going to support us. And I don't think the red one sold like that, that quick for sure.
Starting point is 00:23:46 And there's like people posting the images of it that like, I don't even know or that like I've never had like vast conversations with. I'm like, wait, you're just buying our shirt because you like us and you like the design. And I'm like, that's just cool to me. So I was convinced that everyone was only going to buy it because they didn't want to make me feel bad. And it was just going to be, oh, we can't make Joey's boy feel bad. We have to support her. So I'm still in some imposter syndrome going on about that.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I mean, I'm, I'm sure not to be like the negative. I'm sure there are people that won't buy it because it's not their vibe. Like, I mean, that's just, you're going to get that. I don't expect everybody. But even if, it's not, it's not 50% of the people. You know, some people bought it, you know. I mean, several people have bought it. So I'm, I'm happy with the overall results, even if I went into it, pessimistic.
Starting point is 00:24:36 So very happy that you were able to contribute to that. And I know, yes. Joey did want me to mention, I'm not going to get too much into the cities because I know that there's a little bit of. Oh, yeah. We were going to cover that if you didn't want to do. But the original goal, when I was looking at the cities, because I knew I couldn't fit a lot. I couldn't fit every city on there because. Yeah, it would be 100.
Starting point is 00:24:58 It literally would be 120 plus. Like my design would have been half the size and it just would have been a pure will of text. And maybe one day you guys can do a pure wall of text kind of shirt. I don't know about that. But I don't, if people want to count the cities, they might be able to see it. but my goal was 69 cities. Oh, dang. What do you know?
Starting point is 00:25:22 So the original goal was I'm going to have 69 cities. And then not including like the fancy font, but that way that even if somebody's wasn't necessarily included or something was different than at least we had a funny joke out of it. I think, yeah, I do. Now you say that. I do remember that now because I think I've just been saying 50 because I thought that's what it was because we've responded to a few people. People, but it's about 50. Yeah, I think I forget how many were originally submitted. I think it was around 70-something, but there was a lot of doubles.
Starting point is 00:25:57 So in the end, the only ones that I, like, I sought out the Netherlands location. Yes. Because the idea of having a worldwide and then not having it, like, we had the England one, that one was submitted. But then we had one... one that wasn't in North America and I thought we just need like another one. Can we find another one please? Oh, that makes sense. And we've had, uh, that is pretty wild. The journey we've taken, uh, having all these. The fact that like we can look at that, me like, oh, I've interviewed all those people. Like, that's very cool. Yeah, it was, it was a lot and it was, it was really cool seeing how many people have been on here and supported you guys.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Yeah. And I do love that. I do remember, like that way you say that, I 100% remember that it was supposed to be 69 or is 69. Well, we're going to say it's 69, even if it's whatever. Yeah, there might be 69. There might not be because near the end, things got a little bit muddied. But hopefully there is. And if anyone is upset their city isn't on there, we do apologize. There was a Google Doc that went out in our private Discord with essentially a quick turnaround timeline of, hey, submit your state and city for a secret project. And 70 plus people submitted out of the 150 people that are in the Discord, sorry if you weren't one of those.
Starting point is 00:27:15 if I had tried to individually DM the first 50 to 60, well, okay, the first 69 guest. If it's so sure, that's going to take me a week to even get left on red by half of them when I say, hey, confirm your city for me. So like, yeah, the turnaround was was a little bit too, uh, too quick to really get too much into that kind of stuff. So like 69 out of the hundred, I think that's pretty damn good. I'm, I'm happy with that. Now, knowing that it's 69 and not 50, I feel significantly better about that. And you should too, if you're listening, because it's nice. Yes. Nice, nice.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I think the original plan for the cities was to have it. You guys were going to, well, I think it was only neat, Joey, that we're going to try and figure this one out. To try and, it's always 20 minutes away from your city. So they would have had to, like, triangulate these major cities that usually host concerts because it was a concert poster idea. And they were going to have this list of cities. that weren't necessarily crew cities, but they would have been like
Starting point is 00:28:19 just far out of the way to be annoying. Like a concert usually is. I'm like, well, you better get that list to me soon because I need to do this. Would you like the updated list
Starting point is 00:28:30 of what's left? Sure. I'm still in shock that people are buying it. This is the only assumption that 100 were ordered and take like six off the top, well, maybe six, take 10 off the top
Starting point is 00:28:42 between anything that Tanner, Tommy, and unpaid underrated. So 90 or so that were available for sale. What's left currently? Zero smalls, zero mediums, eight larges, 13 extra larges, seven two X's, five three X.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I'm not big math, but I think that means we did a good job. So eight, 13, seven, five, whatever that is, that's a lot less. There's actually one less extra large now. I did order it while you guys were talking.
Starting point is 00:29:10 That a boy. Yay. 27, 30. So 32 out of 100 or left, basically. That's pretty damn cool. It's crazy. I'm very stoked with that, you know. And even if it takes two years to sell the rest of those 32,
Starting point is 00:29:23 because all our core lovers and fans already picked them up. And I do feel bad. I don't know if the, I mean, Tanner knows what he's doing. So he, like, strategically orders certain sizes. But I've already had, like, three medium, three medium sized or small size people already DMA kind of disappointed. They didn't get a chance to pull the trigger. But, sorry. It is what he is.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Yeah, I was told extra large is the most popular size and to try and work on things around the extra large. Oh, for the font size and or how it fits the best. Okay, that makes sense. So that's a good, good thing. I was going to have you try to bully Scott in the buying one and just making him feel guilty for not yet. No, I could never. I guess we're good. I mean, we could pretend he didn't buy one yet.
Starting point is 00:30:10 I mean, he hadn't bought one by the time he actually got here. If you don't buy one, I'm going to feel bad. And my feelings will be hurt. I mean, I think they'll definitely be there. That's about it. That's actually funny. But it's just as far as the podcast itself, like, we're going to, I think we're going to have a version three. As long as we, if we can manage to keep this podcast together, I don't think it's going to take two more years to get another shirt.
Starting point is 00:30:31 The way this sold so good so far. But yeah. What do you think will happen first? Another shirt or another D&D episode? Probably another D&D episode. I don't know if I can handle that stress. anytime soon. And please, congratulations for getting my husband to play D&D finally.
Starting point is 00:30:49 It was actually fun. It was a lot of fun. It was really fun. I don't understand anybody who thinks it's not fun. It's so much fun. Change, new, unknown, not things that are my fucking strong suit. Yeah, you know, the old adage about old dogs and new tricks. It's, uh, it's true.
Starting point is 00:31:06 You keep it to yourself, Scots. You go fucking work on my. My lawn, there's Scots, isn't that a lawn seed company? Yeah, it is. Ah, ha, ha, that's... Um, yeah, afterwards, Joey was like, it's, it was like, not even that Dungeons and Dragonsy. It was kind of like improv. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I wish we had started at like five, five o'clock in the afternoon or did like a Saturday morning episode and actually had like four hours because I think it usually... Usually... Four hours might have been obnoxious, but like, I think we had to definitely abbreviate it just to be like, like, Joey and I both had to be up in like four hours, but... Yeah. Typical sessions are usually around four hours because of four hours, you just kind of get sick of it. But two is usually a bit short. But I really do hope you guys are able to get another episode in. I know that I was worried about Nate editing the episode because I've listened to a couple of Real Play D&D podcasts.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And there's a lot of editing usually involved. I'm going to assume we didn't edit anything. I'm assuming it as well. Because usually it's like every time somebody rolls a dice or has trouble. looking up stuff, they have to cut it. Oh, yeah, no. I mean, I don't know. Did you listen back to the whole episode, Scott?
Starting point is 00:32:20 I did. Yeah. There was a lot of me, was there a lot of me looking at my screen trying to get talked through how to, I'm sure there was. No, that actually happened a lot less than I expected it to. Me specifically. I think it only happened. Just in general, you know, none of you guys have played D&D before. It was totally expecting you guys to kind of like,
Starting point is 00:32:42 fumble your way through it a little bit. But I'm going to go to get you. Big Morgan, did you want to, sorry, shout up, Scott, I'm busy. Sorry. Sorry. Did you want to plug your, talk where I'm sure Joey wants to actually talk about it? Did you want to plug your art page for you get off, your Instagram? Well, my art page is Morgan's Monsters at Instagram.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Well, at Morgan Monsters on Instagram. I don't really have a proper website or anything up yet, but. One quick suggestion. Your personal Instagram has your art Instagram in it, but it's your old handle. So fix that because it took me forever to find your damn art Instagram. Which you have your, whatever you're... I have an old Markzillas, which was my personal one. I haven't had access to that.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Oh, okay. So that's why. Because that's the one that has the art page linked in that one is a dead page. Okay, that stinks. So be sure to not follow that one then. So it's just the Morgan's monsters. Go check that out. And we appreciate all your time and effort you put in this.
Starting point is 00:33:44 No problem. It was fun to work on. To Aberdeen. You know, someone in Aberdeen will pay it. I'm not sure who. I'll have to write up the, um, all that stuff. Yeah, that, I mean, it's, I would just put 60 hours on the invoice. 60 hours.
Starting point is 00:33:56 All right. I mean, minimum wage Canadian, right? Yeah. And then I mean, minimum wage American, sometimes it gets sketchy. I would say the best payment you can get is, uh, next time Joey actually comes to a, an in-person meetup and that alone time you get from it. No, it's true.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Yeah, alone with all the kids. Maybe they'll just get you a beer next time. Alone adjacent. Alone adjacent. I'll just, he has to take all the kiss with him. All right. There you go. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:20 We'll catch you next time. Yeah, all right. I'll go grab them. Bye, guys. All right, Scott, sorry I told you to shut the fuck up there. I just, I knew she was getting off and I wanted to go to have a chance to plug her page. I'll try not to take it personally.
Starting point is 00:34:32 That's okay. I mean, you're not even, you're not even, we don't even have a guest. you're just one of the guys, so it's okay. I mean, I try, I treat all that. I mean, I don't, I don't pick on people that aren't my, well, I guess if I pick on you, it's either I fucking love you or I hate you. And it's, I mean, you have to decide which one it is. Oh, wait, hello.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Who's this fucking. Now you're actually going to have to tune in next week. Yeah, the less handsome version of my wife. She's better looking than me. Yeah, she's better looking than me. That's what I was saying. I don't understand the terminology, though. Well, because I'm still gorgeous, but she's just more gorgeous than me.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I think you're first. I think you, I don't know. I agree with the second part. I don't know about the first. Anyway. All right. So, yeah, you'll have to listen to all that. I think, sorry, Scott, I know you, well, we'll get, we're going to talk about D&D in the episode, so we're good.
Starting point is 00:35:33 We kind of touched on this. I pretty much touched based between what Morgan. said and what I said, we covered the city's part, the drops covered. Joey, hit us some affiliates, bud. Yeah, as mentioned earlier, obscene pneumonia. I have a bottle that I haven't opened in like six months that I opened today right before this podcast, and I'm still dying a little bit. Use code unpaid there.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Plate snacks, of course. Wild to see that there's still crew in there ordering from like sticker mule or whatever you're ordering from knowing. Those guys. Yeah, knowing full well that we have. 10% off at plate snacks who will do custom stickers, we'll do our custom banner for you, and all of that. All you have to do is use code unpaid.
Starting point is 00:36:14 And of course, Chris, at Belt Fed Strength, makes some amazing stuff. Use code unpaid there. I believe it's on most of his products. I can't confirm if it's all of them or custom belts or whatever, but use code unpaid there. And that is that half of the affiliates. should we try and get our guest on the horn kick out all these looky-loos including Keith somehow?
Starting point is 00:36:42 Okay. Scott, Big Scott, is that you? No, wrong number, sorry. Fuck, he left. He actually left. Perfect timing. Perfect timing. Keith just gave us a time out
Starting point is 00:36:56 and now the guest has gone. So, that's never happened before. What do we do? I think we should call Nate. I think calling Nate's the best idea. Technical difficulties get the right number on the line this time. Hold on let me try one more time.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Big Scott, is that you? Yes, it is. Hey, welcome. Finally got you. Welcome. You're on Unpaid and Underrated Live. Happy to be here. Hey, happy to finally have you.
Starting point is 00:37:30 The last guy we had was a dick. I love what I make myself laugh. good. Let's dive right in. Who are you on Instagram, Discord? How do we find you? On Discord,
Starting point is 00:37:47 I am Big Scott. On Instagram, I am at Scott's lifting page. No punctuation, no underscores, just spelled like it sounds. And on Jim Radar, I am the doghouse.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Ooh, yeah, we'll get there. We'll get there. As we ask everybody, what brought you to Masonomics? and what kept you here? So I found their Instagram page. I don't remember when it was around the time
Starting point is 00:38:15 of the chicken bake memes. And I was like, oh, this is really funny. This is a funny meme page. So I followed them. And then, I don't know, three, four months later, I realized that they also had a podcast. And I was like, wow.
Starting point is 00:38:29 So I can just like listen to these guys for, you know, two hours at a time. So I started listening to the podcast and I loved it. thought it was hilarious. You know, I would go back and kind of like pick and choose, at first, pick and choose episodes with guests that I thought would be interesting. And then eventually, I just started tuning in regularly.
Starting point is 00:38:51 You know, it kind of just happened naturally. I don't recall the timeline of any of it. And then, uh, Christmas of two years ago, not this past Christmas, but the previous, but the one before that that I signed up as a supporting member. Decided to give it a little Christmas gift to myself. The miracle. That's the gift that keeps on giving as you give to them. And taking, I mean, some.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Yeah, I mean, it is Park City, you know. True. Follow-up question. When did you find unpaid and underrated? Probably two months into being a supporting member. I started listed into backlaw. and Wait, two months to start listening or two months to know what it is?
Starting point is 00:39:41 Probably two months to know what it is and then like two and a half to start listening. Word, okay. It does get buried sometimes in the Discord, so I get that. And Discord's crazy, so I feel that. Yeah. We're here now, so we appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Okay, where do you live? Where are you from? I'm from Baltimore, Maryland. I've been near my whole life. That's pretty straightforward. Go Browns. Yeah. I don't know what else to say about that.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Steven. Have you been able to do any crew meetups then? Because there's a whole bunch of Baltimore adjacent, Washington, D.C. adjacent kind of crew. I mean, not a whole bunch. Matt and Murph. Just, you know, on top of my head. So I travel for work pretty frequently to just like the surrounding states, Pennsylvania, Virginia, New Jersey, Delaware. So I was down in Alexandria.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I went over, I hit up, mostly squats Matt on Instagram, was like, hey, I'm in the area, you know, can I come over and get a lift in? So I met up with him, got a, got a lift in, and that was fun. That was cool. He's a great day. You were in that little sheet, you were in his little she shed? Yeah. That's awesome. That's good stuff. How, so, how big is that, like, because it's so small on video, is it, I think I'm sure he told us how big it is, but, like, two people in there at once, that had be tight. it's bigger than it looks on Instagram but not by a whole lot it was it was cozy well
Starting point is 00:41:11 Matt's ass is all over Instagrams that's true and then I went to a Scottish festival where Big Eddie was hosting the Highland Games so I went with met up with Big Kurt there
Starting point is 00:41:27 and Big Waffle Iron was competing and big curd from Philadelphia and not big curd or they're like we have like seven Kurtz now so yep yep we have to clarify each first name it seems like at this point that's cool so you've met a handful of the crew
Starting point is 00:41:43 just even being localish so that's good stuff was that one piece of mass nomadic merch that you've seen in the last couple years we're like oh damn I'm gonna go buy that and then you realize oh they just do limited drops you know and once I miss out on the shirt it might not ever come back you know so oh To go buy the rest of those unpainting and rated shirts, guys.
Starting point is 00:42:04 The yeah buddy, the yeah buddy light shirt. I missed that drop. I was on vacation and didn't have my, you know, when I'm on vacation, I try not to look at my film. You're talking about the blurred drop then then, because that's that. Yes, the secret, the top secret, hush, hush drop. Yeah, yeah. But honestly, the one that I really want is the OG weekend warrior.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Oh, yeah. That one's sweet. I think they, did they, was that Lyftford LeVC1? I think we had that brought back. And that might have, maybe,
Starting point is 00:42:36 maybe they Arnold the same year. Like, it wasn't a ton. Because they definitely weren't allowed to sell it. And I think they've almost stopped doing any of the stuff they're not supposed to do as of late. It's been a while. We haven't had to live shorts in a couple years. But those are,
Starting point is 00:42:48 yeah, didn't we get live shorts last year? Yeah, live shorts, the black ones dropped very shortly after I joined crew. I think lift shorts are two years ago. I did pick up a pair of those. Last year was the,
Starting point is 00:42:59 wasn't it like the multicolored there wasn't camouflage but it was a maybe this was the squat ones I don't know well anyway anybody listening they don't sell those I don't know what we're talking about well you're the one that asked it you fuck and I was answering shag bag all of this is purely hypothetical
Starting point is 00:43:19 yeah right it never happened in real life and more more picking on Scott's name going back to when we did our pre dungeon and dungeons episode I somehow I think You called me Chris for something or something for like an hour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then today, I was, Joey was like, hey, we're going to get Morgan on. I was like, cool, got it, done deal.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I want to let Scott know. And I'm sitting there fucking typing Chris in to my goddamn Instagram for like three minutes. And then to the point that I had to go to the D&D episode to be like, what's this motherfucker's handle? I'm like, oh, his name's Scott. And I was like, shit, I knew that. And it's really funny because it's like, it was just, because I didn't call you Scott once in the D&D episode. Because I completely forgot that was a thing. And then I resorted back to it a month later.
Starting point is 00:43:59 So, yeah, somewhat not related, but still pretty funny. Hall of Fame status there, Big Scott. I am at, I'm at 5 now. That's it. Come on, man. Rookie. Anything more than one is good. True.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I got to get, well, later this year, I'll be checking off Lift Hard Live Easy. Oh, yeah. Massanomics gym while I'm there. That's three right there, yeah. this, yeah. Home Jim Con, that might not be too bad. What's that Maryland, Kentucky? It's like seven hours.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Oh, yeah. I mean, that's, seven hours is a lot more drivable than 10. Because I got a 10-hour drive. Yeah, for sure. And that's a flight. I mean, the Arnold was like six, so, you know, it's not terrible. The Arnold is.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Do you have to, I don't say that, but I met you with Arnold, right? No, maybe. Yeah. We did. Yeah. We met briefly in the, convention. Oh, okay. I think you were, you might have been the first person I talked. I might not have actually, were you with, was your partner there? Yeah, my wife was there. Okay. You were actually the first
Starting point is 00:45:08 person I think I met and I was like, I think I even talked about how I almost, I possibly gave you the cold shoulder almost the extent of like, oh, cool, crew. I don't know who this one is. There's like 50 crew in here that I do know. I'm going to go talk to them and then I didn't see anybody for 15 minutes, half hour or something. I do. Okay. That's actually full circle moment. I don't think I remember that's really funny. What happens at the Arnold stays at the Arnold, I guess. That's good stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Until you announce it here. Yeah, I mean, well, yeah. I think we already know we don't know your supporting membership number. Yeah. He'll let us know next week. Yeah, he will. I think it's something in the 600s, but I'm not sure. It tends to change.
Starting point is 00:45:49 If you're anything over like 100, it tends to fluctuate. And even, like I would say 50, right, as people drop off. and join and all that kind of thing. So, yeah, I'm sure Tanner will update us with on that one. You did mention your Jim Raider name already, so you must be certified. You want to give it that to us again? Yeah, I am the doghouse. Dog spelled D-A-W-G.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Of course it is. Big dog? Big dog. Yeah. Do you have big dogs? Yeah, I got a chocolate lab. She pops up in a lot of my lifting videos because she just kind of likes to wander and be close to people.
Starting point is 00:46:29 So that was actually the name, the reason for the name was because she'd just pop up on Instagram a lot. That's actually cute. So Joey already asked you how you found us. How did you tell your friends and family about us, though, and get them to fill up that Q&A that some people really struggle with? A couple of my friends already know about Mass and economics, so I didn't have to explain much to them.
Starting point is 00:47:03 My wife thinks I'm in a cult, so I didn't have to explain anything to her. Most of our wives do. Yeah. But then the rest of my friends, I just kind of sent him this and said, hey, I'm going to be on a podcast because that's what you do when you turn 30. Fill this out for me. Podcasts were fun, man. Anyone that talks shit about podcasts?
Starting point is 00:47:24 Baggin. No, there's a lot of really fucking. bad ones. I hope ours isn't that. If it is... I don't think it is. I think with the exception of every once in a while,
Starting point is 00:47:34 me saying something stupid, I don't think we have anything that, like, you know, is being clipped by other people to, like, make points, you know what I mean? Yeah, and I'm sure I offend people periodically. I make them laugh, too,
Starting point is 00:47:49 so it all balances out. Make them laugh, make them laugh. Big Scott, are you familiar with the game least fun, most fun? Yeah. All right, so we're going to give Scott here, a couple, well, a single one.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Apparently, I'm not. So it's a single topic. And he has to, you know, use his druthers and explain to me the least fun thing about it and the most fun thing about it. Not either or, but both. So least fun, most fun. Hosting a D&D episode, specifically with us, that was going to be a lot. I mean, so I was trying to, I basically just hosting the episode that we did. But if you don't, if your answers don't go the way I wanted to, I'll elaborate more. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:25 So most fun is. was definitely introducing new people. I love D&D. And I like sharing my hobby with others. It's not a hobby you can do by yourself. You know, you need other people to play with.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Is there like a idea? Ew. Not going to lie, that sounds terrible. I didn't know if there was like, is there like an NPC fucking Dungeons and Dragons thing where you're just playing?
Starting point is 00:48:57 definitely is and I want no part of it. Word. I would rather just play a video game at that point. Yeah. Yeah. The least fun would be, the least fun was probably the first 10 minutes or so. I was really nervous.
Starting point is 00:49:18 You know, I'm not the best at, like, speaking. I get real anxious when I have to, like, speak to a group and knowing that, you know, there are, hundreds of people that listen to this podcast, I had the jitters for sure. And that was going to be, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:35 sorry, I was, that only lasted about, you know, very shortly. Then once you guys started riffing with each other and I was like, oh, okay,
Starting point is 00:49:45 this is, this is just D&D, this is fun. Nice. That was, I was kind of hoping you went there with the, part of the least fun being the amount of people that might listen to it. Because I was,
Starting point is 00:49:55 I was thinking about that today in the shower, kind of, what was going to ask it. Hard as a rock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wanted to be more of like the twist of like, so not only are you hosting a D&D episode with people you hardly know, but they do kind of know because we're all friends online and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:11 But then it's like, oh, this is going to get aired. Like this is going to be listened to by, you know, 75 to 200 people somewhere in that realm. Like that's pretty cool, but also it could be nerve-ragging. If you have anxiety in any capacity, I could imagine that, at least, there was only a few people watching live and it wasn't like, you know, I think if 200 people were tuning in live, it might have been significantly more challenging. There was nobody watching live until, you know, until I had the little Q&A group joined.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Oh, you're right. We didn't, we didn't. Yeah, we kept the secret. Good call. Good call. You're right. You're right. Do you think if it was live, it would have been more nerve, right? Like, not even like for the Zoom aspect of people chatting and stuff, but just knowing that like this time, this moment, a hundred, people are like waiting for you to say something. I don't know if it would have actually changed anything because like it was being recorded and it was going to be put out anyway. What's the difference between having, you know, five to ten people listening now versus 70 to 200 people listening later? 75 is the floor, not 70. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:51:20 I'm just teasing you. And I mean, just like to bring it back home a little bit, uh, the review. were overwhelmingly positive. Like, I don't think anybody had anything negative to say about that episode. A few people like might have privately said something in the extent of it was fun, but I just
Starting point is 00:51:39 D&D is not for me, but they still listened, but I mean, but that's not a negative review, right? That's a, I didn't get what was going on in review. Yeah. Right? It wasn't like you guys were stupid. You shouldn't have done this. We didn't get any of that. We got like genuinely like this was very
Starting point is 00:51:55 funny. It was, you know, really, really well run. Like I mentioned earlier, the smile on Tanner's face when he was describing it. Maybe even Tommy listened at this point because we included Bernie, like things like, no. No. But if you missing your, you know, your wife told us earlier how Tommy sounds like he's as busy as a dink. So I don't think he's. No, he's a, he's a busy dude.
Starting point is 00:52:20 But I, yeah. I just wanted to point that out that at no point did anybody. say this wasn't funny you guys are bad at this everybody that that listened to it was like even if they said i don't get it but it was still funny was like the worst i got that was kind of my goal with it at all too was like um you know i know that there are a lot of fantasy nerds uh in crew and i use that term very lovingly because i am one myself but i also know that not everybody is So I tried to, you know, Big Derek and I really tried to make it, you know, include as much Massonomics lore and Easter eggs and, you know, just jokes as possible so that it would be fun
Starting point is 00:53:06 for everybody that was listening. And I think it was. So good work to you, good work to Derek. And, of course, Nate, Keith. Are you one of the guys that does log in and do the, like, isn't there a D&D massonomics crew that, like, do it in the Zoom chat? There is, but we don't talk about it. Yeah, I run that one too.
Starting point is 00:53:23 I was just making sure that like you weren't this like outlier that didn't at least participate in that because like it is wild that you kind of came in swinging hot with the heartland. I mean with, you know, being relatively newer and being like, do you guys want to do this with me? And I'm like, fuck yeah. And I always appreciate. We always put it out there. We still do. I know Jeff and Jan had both hinted they might have something up their sleeves. But hopefully you guys can, you know, come through force.
Starting point is 00:53:45 We got two episodes coming up in the next couple months. We need people to do something. If not, it's going to be Joey and I guess toast, I think. So that works too. So why did that sound like a threat? I immediately followed it up with that works too, though. So yes, it did. If you don't come up with something, I'm going to leave it to him.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Like, what the hell did I do? Good catch. So I just, I am selfishly taking those two weeks off either way. I don't care. I don't care what happens. I think on the invite, it's, I think on my spreadsheet, it says, record Monday or Keith off. I think you might as well just assume it's Keith off because I ain't got time for that.
Starting point is 00:54:22 No, I think there's a guy. that I, anyway, yeah, we'll do with that. That's, we'll take that offline. We'll circle that. Yeah, it's just, you guys just getting a sneak peek of how the sausage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't want to end you that. Not very efficiently. It's all through text.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Like, responded like 18 hours later. Yeah. So Scots, big Scots. Oh, that is his name. Your occupation, whether you want to expand as little or as much as you want. I am a hydrogeologist What the hell is that? Is that something with water or marijuana?
Starting point is 00:54:58 It sounds like it's a, oh, hold on, water rocks. You do water rocks. Is that a goddamn job? So we do predominantly like feasibility for, say someone wants to come in and put a warehouse on this plot of land. and they need to know if the water that they're going to be drawing from the well will impact the surrounding community. So we'll go and we'll run various tests to figure out if it will or not.
Starting point is 00:55:34 And if it will, then like what remediation steps can be taken. That kind of stuff. Wait, was that you'd explain in your job or we're setting up a D&D scene? Because that's like exactly how you would say a D&D setup. No, that's interesting. So that takes a lot of thinking on your feet and planning, and it's not just, you know, X, Y, Z, because there's, like, a few different ways to get to the end result.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Yep, a lot of navigating government bodies, I guess, having to deal with, like, Department of the Environment for various states and stuff like that. So water rocks, yep, can confirm. Water rocks. I have found a bunch of while I was out in the field doing field work every once in a while I'll see a rock and it's like ah, it's a nice rock and I'll like throw it in the work truck and just take it back for the gym. Oh, nice. I think I've brought back about five, five natural stones now that range from like 120 to 250.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Nice. That's, I need to start doing that. That's something I could just kind of leave in the yard and like it wouldn't be super obvious. So it's gym stuff up against the garage or something. Maddie. Yeah, it's landscaping. Just one more thing to fucking weed eat around, though. What is, I can't tell if other people submitted,
Starting point is 00:56:57 so did this person, do you know a man named Randy Marsh, or is that, under occupation, someone just put Randy? Do you know Randy Marsh? I thought this was America. I'm like, is that a joke? Did they mean that as the nickname? Like, I don't, I'm so, I'm so. He's got integrity.
Starting point is 00:57:12 No. Randy Marsh is a geologist in South Park. That's why they put that. Okay, okay. That makes sense. I haven't watched South Park. Okay, that was one of the dads. Yeah, I haven't watched South Park in 30 years. I think that's pretty accurate. I didn't hear a bell. I thought this was America.
Starting point is 00:57:30 That was 12 last time I watched South Park. Okay. You're lifting. Start us at the beginning. Start us at the beginning. Start at the beginning and bring us through the journey. So I was probably two years out of college. I was really out of shape, didn't do anything. Just kind of a slug. And I started lifting to lose weight. I think I started at like 250-ish.
Starting point is 00:58:03 And over the course of like a year and a half or so, you know, just doing like bro-split, general gym stuff, I lost about 60 pounds. And then after that, I got into powerlifting because there was a bunch of power lifters at the gym that I went to. And, you know, I started talking to them, asking them for tips. And eventually I signed up for my first powerlifting competition. I did powerlifting for two years.
Starting point is 00:58:31 And then I got bored of squatting, benching, and deadlifting all the time. Don't tell Jim. I went to Strongman. Love you, Jen. So now I've been doing Strongman for three years. And Strongman is. Not squat bench deadlift, it's squat overhead press deadlift. Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Yeah, yeah, huge difference. More or less. With also some bench. Yeah, with also some bench if you're on juggernaut. You can still bench? I haven't flat benched and fuck. Yeah, and it's the worst. But, I mean, big packs, cast checks, whatever Massonomic said in the first 100 episodes.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Well, you just had a hell of a show in there. You came home with a big swore, didn't you? Yeah. Yeah, he did. Big old sword. That was a fun one. So that was one of my buddies put that on. One of my buddies that filled out the questionnaires, actually, put that on. As the second year, he's run that.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Is this nepotism then? Did you actually win? No, I actually won. I'm kidding. Of course you did. I'm just matched with you. But I was the only one in my weight class, so like kind of a win by default. Wait, so they actually gave out a sword just for a weight class. It wasn't, like, usually you don't get a sword. How many swords did they have? Yeah, usually a sword or like a hatcher or something is overall.
Starting point is 00:59:53 He got 16 swords. And all of them were famous video game sorts. Yeah, that's so less. Here I thought we had a strong guy on our hand. No, no. That is, but that's cool. That he actually invested some money on the prizes because usually, in my experience, in my experience, you don't get prizes unless you're, like, top.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Only a couple people get prizes at any type of competition typically, or, you know, maybe you might be poody. It all depends on who donates what, but that's 16 swords is a lot of sorts to buy. I only brought up the neptism thing because I think it was Dan who apparently was being called out because his coach running the meat and he's not allowed to win because his coach is running it.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I pay attention. I'm tired of a lot, but I'm paying attention. Were there any other, why do I think there were some other crew there that weekend? And you compete some with somebody? Yeah, big Braden over at meat and muscles. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. Love that, dude.
Starting point is 01:00:46 I think that was his first competition. He's actually... That was his first Strongman comp, yep. Yeah, Strongman, for sure. He did power lifts for years, but he's coming out. He blew his ACL or his knee or something a couple years ago, so that was really cool to see him be able to actually get back and do moving events and stuff. Well, congrats on your Sword Award.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I don't think any of us said that. Good work on that. I did see that on Instagram, so amazing work. So now you're just settled on Strongman. Do you have any intention of doing anything else? Maybe some natural stone lifting, some Highlands. well I'm actually signed up for the lift hard live easy powerlifting meet um interesting i kind of was getting the itch to do a powerlifting meet again and also i missed the sign
Starting point is 01:01:28 up for you dummy you did so like you missed it because you were like him in and a hall one or like you didn't see it because i get it was like an hour it is hard to convince the wife to be can i spend two grand and go like because this would have been like six months ago too. And did you really met anyone by the time the, uh, the sign up was? I had met, uh, big Eddie and big Kurt, I think by that point. But, but significantly less crew interaction than what you have as of late. For sure. So it'd be a lot harder to convince the wife. Can I spend $2,000 of our money to go to South Dakota?
Starting point is 01:02:07 Well, it was, um, not terribly difficult to convince her. She just wanted me to sign her up as well. Oh, well, that's cool. And she, you did. She's a, she's, so she's, uh, she's stronger than you and I, you know, keeps you motivated and all that. Oh yeah. Yeah. She's the reason that I lift weights. Oh, yeah. So you guys are both signed up for power lifting then. Yep. Yeah. She, uh, she signed up, I believe, right now for, uh, push pull only, because she's got a torn laborman in her hip and can't squat. Dang. That'd be a good reason to not squat.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Are you on, are you on the weight list for strong man at all? No, actually, I just got off. Jake messaged me not too long ago, and I told him to get my spot to the next person. Just lock and prepare a lifting? So you just did the Strongman show where you were like eight weeks out, seven and a half weeks. I think it's eight right now, right? So are you doing a quick delode this week and going right into a taper and to a little peak? No, I just jumped right back into lifting.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Well, regardless of if you took a week off or not, but like you're, you know, pausing on strongman to, you know, squat bench and deadlift three days a week. Yeah. My, I mean, my training style in general is pretty much powerlifting training. With strong man Saturday, kind of. With, yeah, with Strongman Saturday and with some like, like, accessory work to accentuate the Strongman stuff. Is she going to cut out Strongman Saturday for the next two months then? Or are you going to just?
Starting point is 01:03:41 Oh, God, no. That's too much fun. I, I, 100% agree. I do agree with that for sure, but I just didn't know if you were trying to how much you were trying to push the big three, you know, and kind of pull them back on that strong man day.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Yeah, I'm just going to, it's just going to roll up and hit some PRs. That's the plan, at least. Okay. You know, either that or I'm going to fail. I mean, they'll all be South Dakota PRs,
Starting point is 01:04:05 so you'll have, you know, at least the South Dakota PRs in the bag. Yeah, if I don't hit any lifting PRs, I'll hit a beer PR for sure. Nice. What day you coming in? I'll be getting in Thursday. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Nice. Nice. You'll have a good time. It'll be a blast. So that's your first time. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. So that'll be your first book. So outside of the Arnold, that'll be your first big crew meetup then.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Yep. The Arnold was, how was the Eagle for you? Being someone that hadn't really had any much interaction other than a couple of guys, you know, shooting the shit. Having, being in a room with 50 people you hadn't met yet. How was that? I loved it. You know, everybody was super inviting. At no point did I feel like a stranger.
Starting point is 01:04:44 just felt like a room full of old friends. Nice. And that probably made knowing that you were signed up for Lept Hard Live Easy, kind of be like, okay, this is going to be fun. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Nice. Glad to hear it.
Starting point is 01:04:58 We'll see you there in a couple weeks, a few weeks. Yeah, a couple months. I can't even say a couple months anymore because it's going to be less than a couple months. Yeah, it's, we're like 70 days out or something like that. Less than that because I think I missed because I was going to. No, it's, it's, I'm, it sucked because like, my, my, my, my Friday was like 70 days out and then I didn't train again until like two days later. So I miss being able to post 69 days out. So I think we're like, I don't know, call it 65, 64.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Like, it's less than 70. It's coming up, man. It's going to be here quick. No, but that'll be fun. You and your wife have a great time. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it. I just want to see her. I hope she out deadless you.
Starting point is 01:05:39 That's all. Yeah, that would be, uh, that would be, uh, that would be, something. That would be really impressive. I hope she does too. Yeah, again, like, something I really wish does happen. Like, let's go. So did you get her, is she,
Starting point is 01:05:55 she just currently crew adjacent, or did you get her into crew? It's coming out of South Dakota and doing a power living meat. That's a, not a whole lot of spouses want to do that if they're not super into it. So does she at least get it?
Starting point is 01:06:08 Yeah. But just like doesn't want to partake kind of thing. She doesn't quite get it, but she supports me. That's a good first step. You just talk to my wife and that's about where she lands. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:20 I think she kind of gets it and supports me, but also wants, like, partially little to do with it. Like, obviously she appeared here. She's been on other episodes.
Starting point is 01:06:31 She does stuff for us, but I'm like, so why don't you join? She's like, keep me out of that discord. Fucking leave me alone. She did great, by the way.
Starting point is 01:06:40 I don't know if I, I think she was a lot of fun. She wasn't really, I know she said she was nervous, but she didn't portray being nervous. Yeah, she's always a little nervous. She was nervous about the whole thing, so. It all worked out. It was good.
Starting point is 01:06:52 And she's hot. Like, I fucking lucked right out. Yeah, you definitely married up, bud. Like, we both didn't. Relax. I don't know too many crew. It would make three of us. Yeah, like, I've met Stephanie.
Starting point is 01:07:07 She's funnier and better looking than you. No offense. I don't think I've ever met a male crew and, like, met their spouse and just been like, man, you could have done better. But obviously, like, you wouldn't say that any of your friends. But I think it's just like over emphasis. Because we're just all just dumb fat meatheads. And it's like, we have like attractive fit wives for the most part.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Or is there some extent like, like, we're all just, we're all very lucky, happy men. And that's good for me. I'm happy. We all got what we deserved. Have the day you deserve is still the funniest fucking sign I've ever seen hanging on someone's yard. Yeah. It makes me so. I think about that.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Oh, you know what? free in my head. I can tell you where it comes from, but it's a little too political. No, we don't do that here. We don't, we ain't do none of that business. We got enough assholes in the Discord doing that shit as of late. We don't need that here. Um, yum, ham, ham, ham, ham, ham, ham,
Starting point is 01:07:58 um. Scott, what's up, buddy? We gotta get to get back. Scott's. So, fishing and cooking and grilling, you must love that new Luke Bryant song, because he likes talking about it. Oh, my God. You miss Tate. I'm a dude. Dude, Tanner.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Okay, so, so let me set it up. So, like, last night, Tanner had a 15, okay, so a five minute, it damn near might have been 10 or 15 minutes that Tanner and Tommy both shit on that song. And then Tanner posting that as the drop song today was the most fucking ironic, funny thing. Yeah. So can I tell you that I sent that to Tanner? I messaged him and I was like, I heard you recently talking about shitty country songs. There's no chance you haven't heard this.
Starting point is 01:08:41 And he was like, this is. this is the reason people make fun of country music. And like we both had a moment of pure hatred for that shitty song. Now, I am one, I'm sorry, I had to like listen. I had to like kind of mute the live to listen to it.
Starting point is 01:08:55 And I'm like, this is fucking garbage. And it's only like two minutes. Like who produces a two minute and like a second song? I'm not going to say that he didn't hear it before I sent it to him. I'm just saying I sent that and was like, this sucks, right? Now,
Starting point is 01:09:08 on the other hand, do I walk around going, wake up coffee Camo Clown Tree Of course I do Because I love children's song I'm 100% convinced That that song was written by ChatGPT
Starting point is 01:09:22 Oh absolutely There's nobody that can tell me otherwise There's no professional songwriter That would write that Now hold on There's been a lot of bad I say I say that country songs over the years
Starting point is 01:09:34 I say that country music has recently become children's music And I have been saying that Since Red Solo Cup Red Solo Cup is a children's song. Red Solo Cup, I'll fill you up. Let's have a party. Like, that's a children's song.
Starting point is 01:09:50 And so is this. This song is for children. Wake up yogurt. Climb, tree, put on my shorts. Like, it's, this is all written for children who are masquerading as adults who listen to country music. Anyway, whoa, I'm going to offend people again. I'm going to back off on this one.
Starting point is 01:10:08 But, like, yeah, no. That song sucks. Most country music sucks. Anything you hear in the radio sucks. Yeah. I can't wait to hear. I could go down a rabbit hole about Red Solo Cup and that era of country music specifically, but I won't because it would get a little political, so I'm going to save it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Well, instead of doing that, why don't you tell me about how you are at superior Growmaster over Big Matt? You say Growmaster? Grill Master. heard grow master did you hear grow master well I mean I am a growing I heard but I said grill I did hear grill master well maybe I just knew that that's what he
Starting point is 01:10:50 meant because I I don't grow anything because you're already hanging dog he's already a big dog it's already 6 to midnight it's walking around half um
Starting point is 01:11:05 well I will say I don't know if uh I don't know if you're just say barbecue a few times and grill and barbecue smoking meats, all kinds of grill stuff. So just tell me about that hobby. But try to talk shit about Matt because that's what we all like to do. Yeah, I don't know if I could compete with Big Matt's brisket. I mean, that looks pretty damn good.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Every time I've tried to make a brisket, it turns out like shoe leather. So maybe I need a couple lessons from it. I mean, if yours is ready to eat, the protein grill. Propane grill, I can cook just about anything on there. I mean, that's my preferred method of cooking. And me and my wife, we meal prep. My wife's a bodybuilder right now, so she does a lot of chicken and rice. Every weekend, I'm out there grilling chicken.
Starting point is 01:11:50 So I got a propane grill, and I got a pellet smoker. I'll use the, Keith, I know how much you love turkey. Every Thanksgiving, I'll throw a turkey on the smoker, and I'll smoke that. It's probably pretty good, though. I'm a believer of if you don't like turkey, then you don't know anyone who knows how to cook a turkey. I make a mean turkey, man. Counterpoint, I live across the street from a turkey farm.
Starting point is 01:12:24 You ever smelled a turkey farm ventilate? No, and I can see how that would turn anyone. That would ruin, it's not even, it's not even like they don't relate. They're not free. Turkey doesn't smell like that when you cook it. but when you see a turkey and then you immediately go back to, oh, I had to spend a day inside because I couldn't go in my own backyard because of that smell. You're like, man, I don't love turkey.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Yeah, when you see how the sausage is made, you know, you don't necessarily want sausage anymore. Yep. But also, I still love a good turkey. I'm not complaining. That was just a hypothetical. Like, what if somebody lived across from a turkey farm that knew that smell? well to that point
Starting point is 01:13:05 Purdue the chicken company is very big on the eastern shore and whenever I would go down to the eastern shore when I was younger I would smell that a lot and that never really you know it never turned me off of chicken you know it's just like oh I don't like the way that
Starting point is 01:13:22 their shit smells but it's fine not eating the shit yeah yeah yeah okay so what's with you in pencil
Starting point is 01:13:35 topers why do you like to steal pencil topers? No what the fuck so when I was in college right next to the bar it's just it's just a little thing that sits on the pencil eraser
Starting point is 01:13:49 okay when I was in college there was a Chinese restaurant right next to the bar the bar closed it to the Chinese restaurant closed it 230 So after the bar, you'd go to the Chinese restaurant. Well, they had this, like, the little quarter thing for kids where you put the
Starting point is 01:14:09 quarter in, you turn the dial, and something comes out. Well, me and one of my buddies were hammered after the bar, and we were like, oh, we're going to, I'm going to get one of these things. And it was the pencil topper. And then it just kind of became a game for the rest of the semester where we would just try and, like, steal it from the other person without them knowing. So, like, one of us would have it for, you know, maybe. three weeks at a time and then it would just go missing and you know you're never you're never really
Starting point is 01:14:34 sure when it went missing but it was just a fun stupid little game that we played do you ever look at those vending machines and you're like a quarter or a loony for that piece of thing who's making money on that you ever like think about that and like who's like how much do those cost how much are you selling them for like a sticker machine a massnomics gym that takes like several quarters, I think. Well, I'm 100% sure Tanner's losing money on that one. But, like, when you look at these, like, these little pencil toppers or the rubber bouncy balls, you're just like, who sources these?
Starting point is 01:15:10 Biggie hands. But if they literally cost a penny to import them and they're making a quarter off of them, even if it sits there for five years, because it's all dusty as shit when it finally comes out, I mean, they made their money back of the first quarter on a lot of this shit, you'd think. I hope so. Yeah, I can't imagine that buying that stuff in bulk costs more than, like, a couple of cents per item. It's like the alibaba
Starting point is 01:15:32 of vending machine. What a business idea. Good for you. For the whole gym nerds, you know, that's what we're talking about is we're talking about Alibaba. Make a vending machine for change plates. Do you have to put in a quarter pound plate for that?
Starting point is 01:15:51 No, you have to put in your gym radar credentials. And a reminder to anyone that has their gym on gym radar and still hasn't made a public. go do that. There's still a handful of people in there that I don't. I think I, because I think I did a tab of,
Starting point is 01:16:07 uh, you and you past guests. I think I'm like 87. So, granted, that might have missed some, but there's definitely, uh,
Starting point is 01:16:15 Jim Radar's doing pretty good. They've got, uh, we can't talk about it yet, but there are some new features that they're going to release next week that, that we know about right now if you were in the live. But,
Starting point is 01:16:24 uh, they're coming. Actually, no, maybe the live, no, they do know, they do know, they did talk.
Starting point is 01:16:28 You couldn't remember what they, they released publicly or not. But yes, there's some cool features coming that will allow for some more Discord if you will Discourse possible
Starting point is 01:16:37 Yeah Could be discord though Because the way Jeff rephrased It was angry communication Um How do you accidentally make mustard gas Huh It's a good way to die
Starting point is 01:16:49 Don't know what that's reference Oh it just said he We accidentally made mustard gas In Chemistry Lab Oh yeah Was it just a fart that got like totally blown out of proportion? No, we just fucked up the experiment and they had to evacuate the class. You're the word.
Starting point is 01:17:17 All right. Yeah, that's not much to tell there, I guess. When they accidentally committed a war crime. The Geneva suggestions, right? Yeah, right. Was it when they did evacuate you guys and you were outside, were you having any frog weather? And what the fuck is frog weather? I got to ask you about.
Starting point is 01:17:42 So frog weather is just, you know, it's just a rainy day. Every once in a while, on like a, you know, a shitty day. Like, I think it started when me and my buddies were going to go fishing and it started raining, so we decided against it. And I made the comment. It was like, man, it sucks that we can't go fishing, but it's good frog weather. So we all, we all just kind of like went out and looked for frogs instead of fishing. I wasn't because I was like, the whole term I was just kind of like, because I remember it was the watertight as a frog's ass or something. I'm like, is that what he's talking about?
Starting point is 01:18:17 I'm so confused. I'm like, okay, so hunted frogs to catch. Okay. Yeah. Gotcha. Gotcha. What the fuck is a huggle? Is it like a snuggy?
Starting point is 01:18:28 So, I actually have it right next to me. I can show you. Oh, God. Oh, my God. Put it away. What is that? Why has it got barbs on it? Actually, I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Oh, it does a snuggy looking thing or a hoodie. A giant oversized Sherpa hoodie. Okay. It's actually called a huggy or that's your nickname. It's called a huggle. Yeah, it's actually called a huggle. That's the product name. Gotcha.
Starting point is 01:18:56 And it is the most comfortable. thing ever. My wife runs hot. She's always complaining that it's hot, so we keep the house very cold. And I am the opposite. I'm always cold. So I will wear it almost every day. And it's immensely soft, and it is immensely warm, and I love it.
Starting point is 01:19:19 And if it ever rips, I'll probably cry. Oh, you get another one. So what you guys keep the AC at like 67, and you're in there just like, she's sweating and you're just shivering. Oh, yeah. That sounds like an expensive, but yeah, I would love it. It'll be the ACs on 67. All the fans are on.
Starting point is 01:19:36 I can't do the fans and the AC. I don't like the moving air. It's freezing, man. It's always cold. Well, good thing you have your security blanket. Yeah, yeah. Very nice. So Massonomics huggle is coming up.
Starting point is 01:19:50 I would buy one in a heartbeat. There's not a small price that they could put on that that I wouldn't pay for one of those. I mean, you can, you can customize and get anything. Like, if you ask Tanner nice enough and say, I'll, like, you know, not going to redistributed or anything or sell it to people, I'm sure he'll let you put your image on his, his image on anything. Good marketing and branding for them. Okay. Been a long time.
Starting point is 01:20:16 We have a poop story. Oh, we like poop stories. Yes, yes, yes. It's been a while. So the floor is yours. Oh, do you shit on the floor? Jesus. No.
Starting point is 01:20:31 So it was the day after, it was the day of Way-ins immediately after Way-ins for USS Strongman Nationals. And, yeah. A couple years. Yeah, last summer.
Starting point is 01:20:47 So we went to an all-you-can-eat-sushi place to, you know, just to get a big, big carbby lunch. to fuel up for the next day and you know when you eat sushi you got to have soy sauce and so with all of the the salt you know I did a pretty brief like water cut for it so I was not only chug in water but also eating a lot of this the soy sauce and I had a bite of sushi with a little too much wasabi on there and I spicy
Starting point is 01:21:24 and I coughed and a little fart squeaked out. And then a couple seconds later, I still felt the fart. And I was like, oh, this is good. So I got up, I rushed to the bathroom and ditched the underwear, wiped up what it was left over. And when I got back, I just looked over to my wife. I was like, hey, you know, are you ready to get the check? And she was like, no, I'm still eating.
Starting point is 01:21:52 So I just had to kind of sit there still. in my own filth while my wife finished eating and I was looking at her with evil eyes the whole time. Oh no. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. That's the spicy guac hit you. And, uh, yeah, that's the story of how I shit myself in a sushi restaurant.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Yeah, that's going to itch when it dries. I've all been there. We all love a good poop story. You got wet wipes in the car. Don't go anywhere with wet wipes. You can clean up a lot of messes with wet wipes. yeah you know they say to uh to budget for about one a year just make sure you have enough underwear to shit your pants once a year
Starting point is 01:22:35 what does this word i have highlight uh things that is that a is that pepper chini yeah do you not know what that is that the little pepper thing that goes on popajon pizzas yes yeah they're those little um semi spicy for some reason like as i was reading it i was like does that like my is that a butchered pepper right I'm like, oh, no, but you don't even know what a pepperette is. Well, I do. Well, it's not a thing in, you know, the Americas. The single one America.
Starting point is 01:23:05 The rest of the Americas. Canada and Mexico, we fully aware of what those are. Who was on? We were, like, debating if South America was North America or whatever the fuck it was. I don't even remember. It was like the dumbest thing ever, but, like, looking back on it, and we were, way wrong. If South America was North America?
Starting point is 01:23:21 I don't remember. I literally don't, I can't remember exactly what it was. but it was something so like in hindsight I was like oh we were wrong but it was something to do with like Central America I really don't remember someone will remind us but it was something where we got caught us
Starting point is 01:23:36 yeah we got mocked once for it already all right so uh flats or drums wings what's what's your uh I see you're a big wing guy I didn't really know how to shoehorn it into any other game so let's just riff on that wings are wings man flats drums they're all the same Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:23:55 They're all delicious. Breaded or traditional? Traditional out of the two. Yep. But if I have my druthers, I'm going to smoke them. Well, you can still do both. The place I go smokes them for six hours and then fries them. And they can either toss them or not toss them with dust.
Starting point is 01:24:17 No, I mean, just straight smoke. Straight up smoke, not even frying them afterwards? Don't drop them in the oil. You know, last 10 minutes or so crank it up to 350 to crisp up the skin. Yeah, can confirm. And traditional all the way. Sauce or dry? Sauce.
Starting point is 01:24:37 Ooh. Yeah. If my hands and face aren't a different color by the time I'm done eating, then they weren't sourced enough. What's your favorite flavor? I like a good sweet hot, like a mango habanero. That's my go-to. Usually honey hot's my go-to, but I recently discovered spicy lemon pepper. So the place I go to I was just talking about, you toss them with the lemon pepper,
Starting point is 01:25:05 but then you add some Frank's hot sauce. And it is top tier. Like seriously. And then they put it on the menu and didn't name it after me, the jerks. I'm not a big lemon pepper guy. I've had them a couple of times, and every time that I tried them, it tastes like baking soda to me. that might be a genetic problem.
Starting point is 01:25:24 Are you in baking soda? Yeah, you might have a genetic defect on that one because lemon pepper is topped here. Yeah, it's like the cilantro gene. Yeah, I was glad you got the reference. I was going to say that. He does not a lemon pepper gene. It's lemon and pepper.
Starting point is 01:25:39 It's delicious. Now, I will say I've found orange pepper. Instead of lemon zest, they use orange zest, and that is delicious. Yep. And that one doesn't taste like baking soda, do you? No. Yep.
Starting point is 01:25:55 It's genetic, man. You know, you've got the, you've got that weird, weird extra gene. You got the lemon pepper gene. So under things you hate, I see bugs. Anything specific? Oh, God. Any bad stories? Oh, please tell me you're going to Aberdeen.
Starting point is 01:26:12 Uh-huh. How do you feel about mosquitoes, Scott? Yeah. And how long? And, like, I'm at like, I don't like despise. I mean, I get awful mosquito bites. Like when I was a kid,
Starting point is 01:26:25 I would get welts the size of a softball from a mosquito bite. They have fours of the size of my thumb out there. Oh, God, those are awful. I got a scar on my ankle from one of those biting me when I was like eight. Actually, it might have gone away by now.
Starting point is 01:26:40 I haven't checked in a while, but I used to. You're not big on inspecting your ankles? No, you know, nothing really changes. with them. Yeah, so, the bugs thing, when I was a kid, I had a tree right outside of my window, and so I would get like stink bugs coming into my room when they were first, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:07 first starting to grow in population in the U.S., and I smashed one. and I just immediately threw up right on my bedroom floor and ever since then I've kind of just had a visceral reaction to killing a bug it makes me uh it makes me wretch a little bit I don't blame you we get them we get them pretty bad out here too and it's just avoid avoid and is that at this point I just suck them up with a vacuum and don't even deal with it You gotta get some diatomation serf too.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Yeah, that's why you get the Dieterminusia start. You suck them up with the vacuum and then you have the diatomation serves. I'm saying that wrong. I don't know. I don't know what the word. No, that's right.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Is it? That's right. Yeah, I'm trusting the wet rocks guy. And you suck a little bit up. Do you want to explain what it is? So it's like almost not microscopic because it's like, the consistency of sand, but it's like fossilized shells.
Starting point is 01:28:17 Okay. And suck into that. Uh, I'll probably fuck some up. Actually, as a basement gym owner, you should have some. Now,
Starting point is 01:28:25 what it does is, it goes onto their shell. So any of these like water based bugs that it might be in your basement, silver fish, cockroaches, whatever you might find, uh, it essentially just dries them out and they die.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Hmm. It works, it works on any bug that responds to water, including, I think bed bugs, including water bugs, butter, like anything. Is a silverfish a house centipede?
Starting point is 01:28:47 Or is it something different? Yeah. I think so. Because I had one of those motherfuckers on my kitchen floor this morning. No, silverfish are these little weirdo dudes that, um, they're actually, you see them in your bathroom a lot. It's very funny. This week, somebody was telling me to eat shrimp and, uh, silverfish are technically
Starting point is 01:29:04 shrimp. And they live, um, in your, in your basement and in your bathroom. And they, they run around and they're all squiggly. Um, so you actually, actually, might not even see them. They're probably other the formats, to be honest. They don't hurt. They eat like glue and tape and never seen one of those.
Starting point is 01:29:21 They eat hair and shit like that. What the fuck? Those are the... Technically, shrapers. Anything with more than four legs, I hate. Yeah. Well, house centipede. It's got more than four legs. Keep it away from me. I think my cats eat a lot of the random bugs at the house, too, which kind of helps. But
Starting point is 01:29:37 yeah, I lost... I won't go ahead. There was a house centipede that crawled across my floor this morning. It was little baby fucker and they almost never make it upstairs. I see him in the basement every now and then. And like I turned the light on because I could barely see it. When I walk in the kitchen in the morning, I just turned one like accent light on and not the full light.
Starting point is 01:29:53 And so I could barely see it. Then I went to go turn the light on so I could see it and grab a paper towel and smush it, which I almost never smush bugs. I'm like, I have a weird thing about like, I don't know what it is. I don't like killing anything. But like this fucker, he was going to die. I was going to get fucking rid of him. And then I couldn't find him.
Starting point is 01:30:06 And I was like, so then I had to text. I think I told Stephanie as I was leaving. I was leaving in the kitchen somewhere. Have fun. Have a good day. See, I don't mess with centipedes because centipedes are killing all the other shit that I want to kill.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Yeah, they eat the spiders. Like, I don't get, well... Well, house centipedes will fuck anything up from a little bug to a mouse. I've, like, I've seen centipedes in my basement big enough to take down mice. That would... Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:30:30 If I saw it, if I saw... I'd burn my house down. Eat a fucking mouse. I'd literally move. It can happen. It shouldn't happen, but it can happen. Like, I've seen the biggest house centipedes I've ever seen. I'm thinking back.
Starting point is 01:30:41 of my parents and like was a kid maybe like three inches and that was the most terrifying there's no way that fucker's taking out a mouse though you'd be surprised some of those fuckers can do that oh I was in uh I was up in Pennsylvania and I had to go check a well that was in like the basement of an abandoned house
Starting point is 01:31:02 and when you walk up to it do you go well well well no but I'm gonna start you better you fucker I want to see a video of that Um, well, the, you know, the house was abandoned, so there was no electricity, so I was just, like, navigating by flashlight. And I see something, like, scurrying across the wall. So I'd, like, you know, shine the flashlight on it. And it was, do you know what a cave cricketts? Yep. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:31:27 It was the size of the palm of my hand. Yep. I, uh, I called my boss and I was just like, yeah, um, this is going to take a bit. I'm leaving for, like, two hours. We were camping one day in. we woke up and my the one guy we were like it was a a bunch of teenagers obviously in a tent so there was like six of us and the one guy had a one of those on him and we all like a bunch of us freaked out I didn't I was like I want to know what that was now so then we went identified as a crape crazy yeah those things can be like the size of a beer can those things are ridiculous do you watch NASCAR all Scott seemed like a NASCAR guy okay I only bring that up it says break you oh I wouldn't say breaking news is happened a little bit ago, but I just noticed it. Kyle Bush passed away.
Starting point is 01:32:14 He's like, well, he's Joey. He's 41-year-old NASCAR driver, like, very famous, very popular. Just, I don't know. That's wild. Not a whole lot of information on that, but RIP. Breaking news on Unpaid and Underrated next week. Yes. Well, I figured he, you know, we were talking about country music earlier, NASCAR, all adjacent.
Starting point is 01:32:35 I don't think he was on the side of country music. Okay, do you want to get into some games, some gum? Yeah, what do we got? Embarrassing facts. Okay, fuck Mary Kill. Are you familiar? I am. All right, so anyone new to the game, you know, haven't listened to Masonomics?
Starting point is 01:32:57 I haven't listened to... Well, no, they probably stole it, I don't know. But fuck Mary Kill. Going to give Big Scott here three topics, three individual things. He's got to rank them between which one he wants to fuck, which one he wants to marry, which one he wants to kill. So essentially, ranking him one, two, three. I'm going to go strongman carry events
Starting point is 01:33:12 And if you're not familiar with any of them Why I got an alternative or if one doesn't seem as fun So FMK strong man carry events So keg carry Sandbag carry Hussifel carry But I got a fourth one if any of those You want to get substituted
Starting point is 01:33:29 I am going to marry the Hussafel carry Because it's one of my stronger events It was actually in the competition I just did. My weight was 300 pounds. I took it for 180 feet. That's pretty impressive. I've never,
Starting point is 01:33:48 it's more than I picked up. I could have probably gone for 200, but it was the first event and I didn't want to just, you know, I didn't want to gas myself out. You only need one foot to win, so there's always that. There's always that of like, R-R-P-7 and just coast,
Starting point is 01:34:04 but still wanting to perform. It was, Sanbag. Sanbag. All right. I'm gonna fuck sandbag because I do enjoy a good sandbag.
Starting point is 01:34:18 But it's not like my favorite. It's not something that I'd want to do all the time. I'm gonna kill the keg carry because that's just gonna, I mean, you do that too much.
Starting point is 01:34:29 I mean, it's a hard movement, you know, on your biceps especially. Fortunately, I haven't been injured while lifting yet, But Keg Carey was the one thing that almost did it to me for sure.
Starting point is 01:34:44 Where does Natural Stone carry come in? How much of that have you done? I haven't done a lot of carries with natural stones, but I do a lot of loading and to shoulder. Yep. And I do love a good natural stone. Have you done Denny Walks yet? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:04 One of my buddies got the Cerberus Denny handles. and before have you seen the video from I don't know a while ago where the guy was doing the din you walk and he was like spinning in circles while he was walking to kind of get the yeah so we all tried that like up to like close to 300 pounds
Starting point is 01:35:26 a hand before before they like outlawed it in almost all competitions and that was really stupid it was really fun but it was really fun but it was really stupid. I definitely felt like one wrong move
Starting point is 01:35:42 and I was gonna blow my knee out. Yeah, yeah. I brought it up because Denny Walks can fucking die forever. Like they're fun, but like they are not pleasant at all. Now, any like pick and hold?
Starting point is 01:35:56 Yeah, like that. All day every day. You did that once. Did you ever carry a Death Cross or some variation of those? Those are, the gym here has one.
Starting point is 01:36:06 I think there's a, I think different, people might call them different things, but it's just the one we did essentially a vertical cylinder narrower than a keg with like, you know, like arms basically like coming out to size. Oh,
Starting point is 01:36:19 the inuxuk I have is kind of. Yeah, yeah. But yeah. Not, obviously not as heavier as big. And I think Titan even has one that's just more like just like a like a V thing or something, but I know at least here there was a local welder that made a handful. So a couple of the directors in Greater New York have them.
Starting point is 01:36:36 So they're all spread out in massive state apparently. Fucker. Massive state. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. Okay, Mount Rushmore. I'm not going to pick any of the ones that are in here.
Starting point is 01:36:47 I'm going to pick something completely different. Top four bugs. Yeah, top four bugs. You're Mount Rushmore of bugs you hate. No, Mount Rushmore of white girl songs to dance do in between sets. Fuck yeah. So, songs or artists?
Starting point is 01:37:09 I want to clarify that. I want songs and the artist that sings them. Okay. First one is going to be... Shoot, I'm blanking on the name. Why am I blanking on the name? It's a Kesha song. Your love is my drug.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Not that one. It's the one that starts with wake-up in the morning feeling like B-Ditty. I mean, I think... I think that she has since changed those lyrics in light of recent events. I think that's TikTok, yes. Yeah. So yeah,
Starting point is 01:37:45 she did change the lyrics actually. First one, TikTok by Kesha. Yeah, Kesha's goat and love Kesha. She got a new album, not new album, new video released this morning or yesterday. Second one
Starting point is 01:37:58 will be applause by Lady Gaga. Ooh. Deep cut. Do love me some lady Gaga You're in her new stuff You know Good to
Starting point is 01:38:10 The Dead Dance is on my playlist Consistently So is Abercadabra It's also my little girl's favorite stuff Yep I'm with you on that one Um Firework by Katie Perry That's just a classic
Starting point is 01:38:25 Can't confirm yep And Although this last one Isn't a white girl it fits the genre of Recession Pop that is colloquially called White Girl Music
Starting point is 01:38:40 Interestingly when I say white girl music I didn't mean by artists So I think you and I align with that one That's interesting yeah Because there's songs that clearly are like What do white girls dance to in the club That's fun
Starting point is 01:38:52 Okay Disturbia by Rihanna Oh okay Yeah Great Great list There is a a guy DJ that was at the last power lifting meet
Starting point is 01:39:07 I was at and his third deadlift song was Call Me Maybe. And if you ever see videos of DJ he comes out, he slides towards his deadlift and then he claps his hands and throws the chalk in the air
Starting point is 01:39:23 to Call Me Maybe. And it's so fucking amazing. Like just to see somebody having that much fun at a power lifting meet. I was like I walked up I was like, me and you are going to be friends. He's not crew yet, but I get the feeling he would fit in very, very well. See, I love people like that, you know, like that lifting's supposed to be fun, you know?
Starting point is 01:39:47 And if I might ruffle some feathers with this, but like I, in my opinion, at least, if you've got to have like someone screaming in your ear to lift, then that's no longer fun, you know? Yeah. I don't like to be yelled at. I want to listen to some jovial, whimsical music while I'm enjoying my hobby, you know. So strawberry wine? No. No, that's just you, dude. It doesn't song about a girl getting completely hammered and railed in a field, and you're like, lifting music.
Starting point is 01:40:24 All right, I think you passed not Rushmore, my friend. Unpaid underrated or Affiliates? Oh, affiliates, that's my time, and I'm sorry, Chris Mark was bugging me. He was showing me the events for Saturday Strongman, but I'm still on the fence on because I really want to go to the Boston thing, but, oh, six-hour drive on a P. I think you'll enjoy the Boston thing, Mark. I've got a day to figure it out. Yes, affiliates, Big Keith here. I don't know why I'm telling you that, but I'm just reading what's on the fucking page.
Starting point is 01:40:55 It's been a rough night, guys. It's been a long one. Barbell Rescue. Big Kim is over there. If you got a dirty shaft, he's, he's. the man to see. He can clean that thing right up. I mean, it's the same kind of advertising he does. Home Jim. Oh, it's good stuff. If you haven't heard yet, Jim Raiders is going to be at Home JimCon.
Starting point is 01:41:13 Still not sure who it are, who they are. You know, it's kind of one of those, it's going to be a surprise release of who's running Jim Radar. So come to Home JimCon. Come to Home JimCon. Come use code unpaid for your tickets. Hopefully, I mean, there should be, I'm optimistic. There's going to be as many or more people at Home GymCon this year as there was at the Eagle. So tune in to Code Unpaid at Home JimCon save you a little bit of money on the tickets And then Big Grant
Starting point is 01:41:36 He needs money for all his kids And all his 50 meter sprints or calories Whatever the hell he's doing over there Go save on some apparel from the Stranco Code unpaid all those locations Save you a little bit of money And then yes The game that Big Tanner came up with
Starting point is 01:41:50 Allegedly unpaid or underrated Big Scott, are you familiar? I am Will you describe this one for me So because I don't have to butcher it again Yeah, so I'll be given a topic and I will have to decide if it is good, which would be underrated, or bad, which would be unpaid, because nobody wants to be unpaid. Unpaid or underrated. The band Nirvana. Unpaid. I recognize the impact that they had on music. I love.
Starting point is 01:42:29 love grunge music and you know I love the like 2000's new metal and alternative rock and stuff like that and you know that wouldn't have been such a big thing if it wasn't for Nirvana but
Starting point is 01:42:44 frankly I think Kurt Cobain is a really bad frontman I think he was a fantastic songwriter but I just don't think that he was a good guitarist or singer I don't think of of a, you know, I think you might have some people that are you, but not as many of you. Yeah, that's a, that's a controversial opinion. I'm, I know. I'm very well aware of it.
Starting point is 01:43:08 I don't love Nirvana, so you didn't say anything that upset my feeling. Unpaid or underrated. The game, rock, paper, scissors. Wet rocks, paper scissors. Sorry. If wet rocks isn't the title of this episode, I think we must. And I'm only asking that, because I, uh, it was, I was under, is a, it was a, I think it was an FMK topic, rock paper scissors. What that means. So let's throw it under.
Starting point is 01:43:34 So I'm assuming is there a story with rock paper scissors or someone submit that for a reason or it's just funny? Like I'm lost. You explain it to me. So I'm going to start by saying underrated. Me and my roommates in college, we would, you know, bet like a dollar on just stupid shit. I had a GameCube, and so we would bet, you know, a dollar on Mario Kart, and, you know, coin flips, and rock paper scissors was one of them, and we would spend many a night just drinking beer and playing rock paper scissors until like three in the morning. Love her. Okay, so, good answer.
Starting point is 01:44:25 do you go rock paper scissors go or do you go rock paper scissors and you go on scissors you go on shoot rock paper okay well three shakes and shoot
Starting point is 01:44:38 two three you shoot on interesting okay yeah just check we definitely say shoot not what or go like shoot hit you literally say the word paper scissors shoot
Starting point is 01:44:49 rock paper scissors shoot sure whatever they if it was. Shoot. Good answer. I agree. I love it.
Starting point is 01:45:00 How much? But you could be like, you could be like 50 bucks in the hole if you're drunk and you don't fucking just give up. Like, like, like you can play, I can play,
Starting point is 01:45:08 he's just cluing in now. I can play so many fucking rounds of rock paper, scissors shoot. Like, I'd have to, I'd have to play penny games or like, or just know that you're taking money from somebody that's like a substantial amount.
Starting point is 01:45:19 Now wait, are you calling it rock paper scissors or rock paper scissors shoot? Like, what's the name of the game? Rock paper, The name is rock paper scissors. Shoot is the command to start it. Okay, yep.
Starting point is 01:45:30 Exactly. That's your initiative role. Yeah. Instead of, it's not rock paper, scissors prolapse. It's rock paper scissors, shoot. Oh, okay. I got one. Just real quick.
Starting point is 01:45:44 My little girl is learning Ring around the Rosie. How do you guys remember ringing around the Rosie? Ring around the Rosie. Ash is full of posy Something, something. I thought it was pocket full of posy.
Starting point is 01:45:58 Pocket full of posies. Which is a posse ashes, ashes, we all fall down. That sounds right. That's what I know. Apparently they removed all of that. So now it's ring around the rosy, ring around the rosy.
Starting point is 01:46:11 Husha, haisha, we all fall down. That's what I mean. The fuck is Husha. Isn't the song about like the plague dying from some disease? Yeah. It is. Like it wasn't a, it wasn't an actual kids
Starting point is 01:46:23 thing. Yeah. So anyway, she keeps singing it and then I sing it my way and she's like, no, Daddy, you don't know this song. And I'm like, listen here, you little tarp. You don't know this song. Oh, it's like, is that all fall down because they're fucking dead and like they're falling down.
Starting point is 01:46:39 That's what. Yeah. We sang that shit. Yes, we did. But to my earlier, what the fuck is, like? Pockets full of posies. No, no, you know, you said the word husha, like I'm supposed to know what that means. Yeah, I don't know either. Okay, okay. I was just making sure it wasn't a Canadian thing or a general topic that Keith just...
Starting point is 01:46:56 There's a lot of common terms that I don't know. We did Ashes, Ashes, we all fall down. They're doing husha, husha, which I don't know what that means. I don't know. I might have to chat GPT to that one. Yeah, I mean, my best guess would be that it's just like a nonsense place filler. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:15 So that, you know, we're not reminded of thousands of kids dying. As opposed to a gray filler? Yeah. Yeah. Crack myself up sometimes. times. All right. Unpaid or underrated RIP, Norm McDonald.
Starting point is 01:47:31 So underrated. Yep. He had this ability to just tell a joke without a punchline, and somehow it was still funny. That's a good description on this. Yeah. He'd have you going for like half an hour. So outside of like stand up and just like interviews and stuff, like,
Starting point is 01:47:53 what's your favorite, like, new movie or a couple movies that you would just, uh, were most infatuated with? Uh, with Norm MacDonald or just in general. Yeah. So, yeah, his, his kid's character, his, him playing a character, or I don't know, what's your best memories of him? His, well, I really liked his adult swim, or this, the show that he was on with adult swim, Mike Tyson Mysteries. Um, I mean, it was just so, like, nonsensical. He was, he was the bird, right? He was the pigeon.
Starting point is 01:48:22 Yep. but my favorite bit of his was when you got on the Larry King show and he was talking about how he was a deeply closeted homosexual and just kept going with it and Larry King just did not get it and he was like, what do you mean? Are you coming out to us right now? No, no, I'm closeted. And he went on for the whole interview. I remember that
Starting point is 01:48:53 No, I'm closeted Oh yeah, that was good one RIP man Anything with him and Conan O'Brien Because both of them are just pure silly You see those interviews a lot Just pop up with like reels and shit And they're just like, I get sucked in
Starting point is 01:49:12 I'm like, how this guy's a funny storyttock He really is, yeah What did he? The Bert Reynolds on Saturday Night Live Oh my God, yeah Celebrity Jeopardy Yep yeah i'm wearing a hat it's uh it's a different from regular hats it's hilarious
Starting point is 01:49:28 all right moving on to me or do you have uh oh that was three no go ahead go ahead scott i was trying to remember what he changed his name to on the podium uh turd ferguson yeah yep it's uh funny it's uh not my name okay all right unpaid or underrated rollercoasters so so unpaid I what are you not autistic enough for roller coasters
Starting point is 01:50:00 If we're in crew we're all definitely got a it's like a prerequisite So I I've never I went on a roller coaster when I was a kid
Starting point is 01:50:11 and I hated it I got like whiplash and it kind of scarred me but recently my wife got tickets to King's Dominion down in Virginia. And it was kind of like towards the end of the season,
Starting point is 01:50:25 so they had most of the rides shut down. They had probably six roller coasters that were still open. And so we, I begrudgingly got on all of them with her. And the first one that she had me get on was called the Dominator. And it's the kind where you like your feet dangle and, you just like pull the thing down over you. And this thing was going, you know, flinging me around all over.
Starting point is 01:50:57 I don't believe that man was meant to be upside down. That's a perversion of nature. And we get to like the end of the ride and there's like the picture that they take of you. And I look like I looked like I aged about 50 years. Like my face is ghostly white. You can see like my knuckles are so white. Like, I look like I'm genuinely fearing for my life because I was. I thought I was going to die.
Starting point is 01:51:27 No, that's funny. I love roller coasters, like, and it's just a part of me. We have one here in Canada that's called the Yukon Strike, and it has the largest free fall drop in North America. Because it goes up, and then it goes down into the ground. And it's terrifying. And, like, I wrote it from the very front. and from the back, just because I had to be sure which side was scarier. Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 01:51:53 Yeah, I'm like big, big roller coaster guy, but I understand it, right? There was one that I did actually really like. It was called, like, The Panther or something. But it was similar to that where it was, like, his claim to fame was that it, like, a 200-foot drop or something like that, like max speed of, like 90 plus miles an hour. That one was fun because it didn't go upside down. It just went up and down really, really fast. And once you start hitting the banks and stuff,
Starting point is 01:52:29 you start to experience G-Force and your vision closes in a little bit on you. I don't know. I liked that one. I don't know why. Maybe it was because I almost went to sleep for it. It was fun. Yeah, Morgan has a thing, too, where she doesn't like going twisty. She either doesn't like upside down or she doesn't like twisty,
Starting point is 01:52:45 but she likes everything else. I will try and find the picture. of me looking like an 80 year old man on this roller coaster and put it in the Discord for you guys because it's pretty good. Okay, unpaid and underrated, prepare to get in trouble.
Starting point is 01:53:02 Ghost energy drinks. I got to go unpaid. I think they're too sweet. I think they're too sweet. They leave the, I know that they're sugar-free, so I know that there's actually, there's not actually a film that is left on my teeth.
Starting point is 01:53:19 but it feels like it. It's the same sensation that I get when you drink like a full sugar coke where it just feels like there's this like slimy film on your teeth. Now I will say the new seven up flavor is top tier because it's not too sweet. It kind of falls halfway between like a sprite and a ginger ale in my opinion. Okay. as far as like sweetness, sugariness goes. And I love it, you know, because it's like the perfect balance of sweet but not crazy.
Starting point is 01:53:57 I think I see what you're saying because I think that some of the like the red sour patch kids or whatever those can be kind of sweet. But I do think no matter what energy drink I drink, nothing hits like a ghost. It just has whatever it has in it that just is the perfect hit afterwards. But... A white monster man, through and through. Oh. Only good fucking inner drink ever made. I have two more, if that's okay with you guys.
Starting point is 01:54:27 Just remember, you gotta go to bed and Scott's got question. Yep. Unpaid or underrated. Cucumbers and hummus. Underrated. Hell yeah, one of my favorite lunch things. I... I used to say that I don't like, that I didn't like hummus.
Starting point is 01:54:46 But that was before I tried it. And I'm very judgmental about people like that. And so one day I just kind of thought to myself that I'm being a hypocrite. And I tried it. And it's delicious. And, you know, I, like, saw the, like, slimy texture of it. And I was like, ugh, I don't want to try that. I don't like that.
Starting point is 01:55:05 And I was like, all right, try it. You know, stop being a hypocrite. Do or don't stop doing the thing that you say, that you hate. I tried it, and it was awesome. I love it. It's one of our, we always have it in the fridge now, and it usually doesn't last more than a couple of days.
Starting point is 01:55:22 Yep. It's one of my favorite that in celery, pretzels, pretzels and hummus hits. It slaps hard. The single serving helps if you want to take them to work. Yep. A little more expensive, probably, but it also curbs you from just sitting there
Starting point is 01:55:35 and eating a whole fucking, oh, that was 600 calories. Last one. I don't know where this is going to land. Unpaid or underrated, Mystery Science Theater 3000. I have to ask, because I loved this show. That's immensely underrated.
Starting point is 01:55:53 I love that show. It was like, I'd put it on in college when I just kind of like needed noise. And then I eventually started putting it on because I would like perk up every once in a while and listen to it in between, you know, paragraphs of an essay or chapters of a textbook or whatever and I was like man this is really funny it really is really funny and even the remakes weren't that bad yeah so um do you remember
Starting point is 01:56:25 it might have been about 10 years ago at this point when they were doing the like live tour of it no I wouldn't have gone to that but so I did go to that and that was kind of cool it was like it was in like an amphitheater kind of thing. It was real small scale. And it was a Q&A with Joel. Cool. So the one question that I remember someone asking him
Starting point is 01:56:56 was if you could do any movie, if you could riff any movie without having to worry about like the copyright or anything like that, what would it be? And without so much as hesitation, said happy. That would be great. All right. Well, I think you passed
Starting point is 01:57:16 unpaid and underrated. Thank you. I think that means it's your turn for us. Yeah. All right. Well, this is where we're going to start the four hour episode of D&D, guys.
Starting point is 01:57:29 So, you know, this is everyone buckle up. Get locked in started. This is, uh, we're hour two. We have the pre show out of the way. Now we're just, now we're about to start the, the first ones to both of you
Starting point is 01:57:41 now I know that you guys have said that you don't like regularly listen to your own podcast but Keith I do remember saying that you used to in the beginning how long did it take you to get used to hearing your own voice as a recording? I don't know if I I still don't think I'm used to I guess I'm numb to it now maybe I don't know that's a it is a very weird thing because it's the whole, it's the more of the, it's not that I like, I'm self-conscious necessarily.
Starting point is 01:58:14 It's the, that's not, obviously, no one hears their, the tone, their real tone of their voice in their head. And I don't, I think like, if you go a while without hearing your voice and then you do hear it, like, it almost shocks you every time. So I think it was more just getting over the, that, that's not my voice. That's not how I sound thing. So, but I don't, I don't know. I don't know if I've almost trained myself to know what my voice sounds now and kind of separate the two. There was several months listening, kind of like, cringing at the things I would say and having to, like, You know, be like, but I think I really listened to the beginning more of a, as a teaching tool to, because I wanted to improve.
Starting point is 01:58:48 But I don't know that I'm still, so I think everyone's still a little self-conscious about their voice and their, you know, it let likeness being out there. So I don't know if I have a perfect answer. If there's like a set date of a, you know, it gets easier with time, I suppose. I don't, like, I've done public speaking. I've been on the radio. I've taught classes. I've done stuff like that before. But like listening to the recording back has always been weird.
Starting point is 01:59:15 I still don't think I'm used to my own voice. But also it's like my voice. It's in my headphones right now. So like, point. Yeah, I think I got used to it a lot faster than I thought I would. And, you know,
Starting point is 01:59:29 the encouragement from Morgan, you have a good voice for podcasting, go use it. You know, like things like that that like really help build it. I would say it maybe took 10 to 15 episodes. But then it got to the point where I would, was like, I don't need to listen to this anymore.
Starting point is 01:59:43 It's me. I don't, like, I was there. So once you kind of do that thing, like he said, where you learn from your, okay, was I going too fast, was it going too slow? Did I interrupt? Was I doing this? Was I doing that? Once you get over that, you're kind of like, yeah, I don't need to listen to that anymore.
Starting point is 01:59:59 We got that. One thing you mentioned that I think maybe has helped is we, like, I'm, I guess I never thought about it. I am actively hearing my voice as I do this. where like before when you just see a video of yourself and you're talking, you're like, that's not how I, I think the whole like, like my wife, anytime she hears her voice on something, she like flips out or she hears her voice in a video. She's like, that's not how I sound. And I'm like, maybe I, maybe until you listen to yourself in your own headphones for fucking years, like, I don't know. Because I don't, like, Scott, do you, when you listen back to your episode, did your voice sound different from what you think your voice sounds like? Yeah, actually, that's exactly why I asked it. The first. I don't, I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I first, I don't know, maybe 10, 15 minutes of listening. I was just cringing the whole time. I was like, oh, my God, is that what I sound like?
Starting point is 02:00:46 Yeah. Your voice that you hear in your head, at least in my experience, is very different from the voice that I heard in the recording. And I don't know if that's just from recording itself or if that's, like, actually, like, a physiological thing. It might be, like, some uncanny valley stuff where, like, you're just, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you can hear your own voice when you talk. Like your vocal cords and your sinuses and your ears are all connected. Like you can.
Starting point is 02:01:17 But then when you hear it played back to you, it's so unnatural. Right? Like you're like, yeah. And it's even worse, honestly, the first time I saw myself in a masanomics video,
Starting point is 02:01:29 like that's almost worse than hearing it through your car stereo or through your headphones. Because now you're looking at yourself, hearing yourself, and like that's a different level of it. because, again, it's unnatural. So...
Starting point is 02:01:42 I'm glad we don't do a video. Yeah, I sometimes think we should, but I can hear what you're saying there. Like, it would be very weird. And also, I'm ugly as shit, so I don't want to... We can't. I mean, if we ever did video, we wouldn't edit it, though. It would literally just be the start and finish of the podcast, and that's it.
Starting point is 02:02:00 No. What you got for, Scott? That was a good question. I like that. Very good, yep. I'm glad that you acknowledge that... You know, I also thought you had a weird voice. if that helps.
Starting point is 02:02:11 Gee, thanks. I'm kidding. Now I'm going to be self-conscious about this episode too. Yeah, don't air it. We're going to get the message. I don't want that aired. Are we even recording?
Starting point is 02:02:20 Yeah, we're recording. No, I'm just teasing Scott. You're a good guy. What you got for us, buddy? Anything else? I know you got a whole list of you're going through. We got plenty of stuff. So this one is more geared towards Keith.
Starting point is 02:02:33 Oh, but he's going to get me. You know, there's been a lot of talk about the basics of what you need for, of what you should have for a home gym. Yep. I'd say like what? Since your home gym is very well established, you know, you've got quite a few pieces of equipment down there.
Starting point is 02:02:52 What's the one piece of equipment that's just beyond the basics that you would recommend to somebody? Hmm. So, I mean, the basics, the basic, the basis of something to squat out of, something to deadlift on and then the ability to, well, in a bench. So basically some type of rack, some type of bench, some type of barbell, some type of plates, and a couple of stall mats or a deadlift platform of some sort, like some ability to squat bench and deadlift.
Starting point is 02:03:24 You could literally get that for like 800 bucks and train at home. The next thing, I think I've, I mean, I could even go beyond the basics. So I always tell people to get that and then get some type of cable machine that allows you to do pull downs and low rows of some sort. So that would all, I guess that could be the easy answer. After that, it's the leg extension leg curl of some sort. And then specialty bars. SSB, Duffalo bar, neutral grip bar. And that's just, I guess, more for general training slash powerlifting.
Starting point is 02:03:52 As a strong man competitor now, it's like, that's a whole different thing. Because what is the basics? Because if you want to do strong man, what's the basic of strong man? You don't need a fucking rack to do strong man. Because you can clean everything from the floor that you would have to lift overhead. And you don't bench if you don't want to. so the basics of strong man like that is a good question
Starting point is 02:04:11 like what are the basics of strong man but I think to answer your question specifically I feel like the basics of strong man would probably just be like at a minimum like an axle bar in a sandbag yeah because you don't I mean a log would be great
Starting point is 02:04:22 but you can train on a log a few times and kind of I mean yeah I think yeah some I don't know man that's I think I answer the basic question as far as just the entry level home gym if you're not really sports specific
Starting point is 02:04:37 I suppose. But what you get sports specific? Most people are going to already have the basic stuff before they get sports specific. There's not a whole lot of, unless you build something during COVID. You're just like, oh, here's my sandbag. And that's like all I have kind of thing.
Starting point is 02:04:51 But if you're building a home gym, you probably do barbell training. Because if you're, you wouldn't be able to really build a home gym. If you didn't, I mean, there are granted, you phrase that there's people that have $10,000 gyms, $100,000 gyms that don't have barbells. but general people that we associate with like to do barbell training.
Starting point is 02:05:11 So you need all that, but I don't know. I don't know if there's that extra missing piece, but I really think as far as the two machines, slap pull down leg extension slash curl of some sort, and then dive into specialty bars. I think that's going to be your bread and butter. I don't know that there's a, I don't have a magic wand that would have a better answer than that.
Starting point is 02:05:32 I think that's what I've been, I've, my answers haven't changed for the last decade. That's what I've been telling people probably too, because that's kind of how I built mine. And that's what I would do again if I was to go down the same path. Yeah, I like that. I think that that's a good answer. Just, you know, some accessory type stuff. Joey, this kind of already got asked to me, but I wrote it down and I like it. So I'm going to ask it to you as well. Okay. FMK
Starting point is 02:06:05 Sandbag Stones And kegs Kill kegs Right off the bat They're fun But they're unpleasant Obviously I'm going to marry stones
Starting point is 02:06:20 All day every day There's nothing Nothing better than seen a rock And just going Where's the handles How can I get under that And then sandbag I guess would be fuck, because they help you train for stones.
Starting point is 02:06:39 You know, fuck every sandbag I meet to help me please my stones. That sounds so dirty. You're right, it did. Do you think I say dirty shit? When I was asked that, that was my almost exact answer as well. I do like the idea of a who's fell never done one myself, but I mean, that's why I have the knuck truck bag because it is kind of odd shaped
Starting point is 02:07:05 with the, you know, to get the hug in more than you can get other things hugged. So, yeah. Yeah, I do love a Hussafelstone. It's like a, um, like a much more awkward zircher squat.
Starting point is 02:07:22 Yep. Yep. Do you have the, uh, tight and notable at home? Or you actually have like a couple of rocks that are V shaped? Um, so my buddy's got the, my buddy that runs the Strongman Saturdays got two of the tight and loadable ones Nice, I got one of those on my radar, just haven't pulled the trigger yet 300 bucks is not cheap
Starting point is 02:07:44 Correct Yeah Yeah, that's the one Big barrier to entry of Strongman Is all the ones you start getting knee deep in the equipment It gets heavy, or it gets expensive I mean, it Scant sent me a thing that like how to how to do strongman with a barbell like it exists right that's that's his thing too right
Starting point is 02:08:07 just stay strong and be ready and uh you can pull it off i mean obviously there's things that like are harder like if you've never picked up a log and suddenly you're walking to a show and you got to pick up a log it's harder um but like i think he did it he did his first show without ever touching one so it can be done it just is difficult All right. Do we got time for a little game? I got a little game. I can go all night, so it's whatever Joey can do. I'm all. I did.
Starting point is 02:08:37 I know. Has started. I am chilling. Well, I just, we gave Morgan some of his shows. Yeah, I wanted to make sure we had some time for that. Yeah. We were 45, I think, before we got into the interview, so it's fair. All right. So this game is called overrated or underrated.
Starting point is 02:08:55 Never heard of it. Totally original. It's totally original. I'm not answering it. It's not like a ripoff of any games that we would have played here already. This is a totally original game with totally original rules, I promise. Okay, okay. So I had all that. I think Paul or Dwyer put it in this, so I think I can pull that off.
Starting point is 02:09:18 Not like this, he didn't. Oh, here we go. What did you do? So I have in front of me, Glaze Search. I'm going to randomize. the movie, I'm going to read the movie and the IMDB rating. And starting with Joey and then Keith, because Keith kind of has the unfair advantage here, I would like you to decide if Keith overrated the movie, meaning rated it, rating it higher than the IMDB rating,
Starting point is 02:09:49 or underrated it, meaning rated it lower than the IMDB rating. I know you're going to do random, but I do suggest hitting it a few times if it's not, because I've watched thousands of obscure movies. And also, like, and it's TV shows mixed in, too, so. I think I, like, Keith rates things pretty on par with IMDB, so this might be hard for me.
Starting point is 02:10:11 But there's so many things on there. Yeah, it's going to come down to whether I think Keith is wrong again, Keith, or not. Because the game is, is it, did I rate it higher or lower than IMBD, basically? Yeah. Okay. But, yeah. Scott's already clicked it 30 times. I know he just keeps getting obscure movies that no one's heard of.
Starting point is 02:10:35 Yeah, that's what I'm doing as I'm going through it. That's actually exactly what I was doing. So the first one is the 2009 movie Law Abiding Citizen. The IMDB rating was 7.4. Did Keith overrated or underrated? That was the one where... So did Keith give it higher or lower? Like, underrated?
Starting point is 02:10:56 is he gave it lower than IMDB? Yes. There's another one where what's his name went and killed everyone that killed his family? Is not every movie ever? Troy Butler. Yeah. George Butler and Jamie Fox.
Starting point is 02:11:08 Ooh, did I go below? Oh, Keith underrated that for sure. That movie was shit. So it's, it's, oh, did I overrated? So over, I can't, I'm gonna, you're gonna break my head. Yeah, it's okay, just higher or lower than a seven four. He went under IMD.
Starting point is 02:11:24 Yes, I went under, I for sure. I guarantee I rated it a six or a seven, not an eight. Because that'll be the easy part of the game, because the IMBD is going to always average out to a point four or point five or something. So I know I did not rate it an eight, so 100% did not rate it an eight. I will guess it was six. Yes, no, it's, you rated it a six. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:43 It's fair. All right, maybe I should get some more obscure ones then. You do whatever you. I just didn't want to, like I've watched, I've literally, I think I spent like hours and hours and hours during my COVID layoff. like going through like top 500 movies of every single year and be like, oh, I've seen that. Oop, I've seen that.
Starting point is 02:12:01 Oop, I've seen that. So I've rated shit back that I've like watched when I was like, like, eight. Oh. Which apparently if you're on Jim Raider, you know, let's do that. Let's mock Keith for all his obscure fucking Jim Raider things. If stuff he's only used a handful of times, even though we do the same fucking thing.
Starting point is 02:12:15 But let's mock Keith. Fuck you guys. Okay. I don't know if that lent credibility to your glazed rating or not, but let's move on. I watched it 20 years ago and it was shit I still know in my heart if I wanted it to call it a 4, 5, 6 or 7
Starting point is 02:12:32 The 2016 movie The accountant with Ben Affleck IMDB rating puts it at a 7.3 Oh, he underrated that for sure That movie was also shit Oh man You didn't like the accountant? Nope
Starting point is 02:12:46 I loved the accountant man I might have gave that an 8 there's a, like a 25% chance I gave it. I'd almost positive I gave it a 7, but I might have given it an 8. And just because we're keeping score and I got to beat Joey or lose dramatically, I'm going to go that I did rate it higher than IMBD. He's rated it an 8. Boom.
Starting point is 02:13:08 I'm fucking this game. The accountant 2, not an 8. I would almost 100% I think I rated accountant 2 a 6. Not a good. This is actually really fun. It's fun All right Next one for you
Starting point is 02:13:26 Is the 2018 movie Deadpool 2 IMDB rating Is 7.6 Keith hates great things He underrated that No, I 100% gave Deadpool an 8 Deadpoint 2 and 8
Starting point is 02:13:40 Oh fuck no wait Hold on Yeah Which one is Deadpool 2 This is 2 I don't remember who the villain Was cable Cable and jogging
Starting point is 02:13:50 The old guy I'm fucking goon. I probably gave that a seven. I'm going to say I gave that a seven. I'm might have given it at eight though. Fuck, that's tough. Oh, yeah, I'll go opposite of Joey, so. Wait, no, he said, well, no, whatever.
Starting point is 02:14:04 You underrated it. You gave it under a... Yeah, I gave it an eight then. Fuck it, I'll say I gave it an eight. I think I gave it a seven, though. But I'll say, I'll vote. Lock in, and I gave it an eight, but I think I gave it a seven. Keith hates sequels.
Starting point is 02:14:18 Keith rated it an eight. Oh. Oh. I did like it more than I thought. It's been a minute. That's Deadpool 2. It was 10 fucking years ago. God damn, we are old. I feel like that was like three years ago.
Starting point is 02:14:33 What the fuck? I like movies. I watch a lot of fucking movies. Mortal Kombat, too. Not as good as some of my buddies were telling me it was. I do want to see it. Yeah, I want to see that one too. All right, this will be the last one. All right.
Starting point is 02:14:49 The 1993 movie Indecent Proposal IMDB rating has it at a 6 6 even I didn't know Was that was the Is that Robert? No
Starting point is 02:15:03 Sharon Stone Yeah I'm gonna say Can I ride the line? What was the exact rating on IMD? Six. No, but it was six even Yeah
Starting point is 02:15:17 Six even he said that Okay well that might be a push then. So what do we do if it's a push? I will say Keith gave it a six. I'm going to say I gave it a five. Final answers, locking it in? Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:33 Keith gave it a five. I know my ratings, man. It's not like I sit there and study it. It's the way my fucking, like, my, I don't know, my fucking tism is that I can remember within a point of every movie I've ever rated. and usually more than within a point. That was actually really fun. That was good stuff.
Starting point is 02:15:55 I enjoyed that immensely. And nice incorporation of Nate. Yes, Glaze search. I got to get him the new updated list. That is the worst thing about that, though, is like, IMD broke so Nate can't scrape the website anymore, so I have to literally, like, email him a goddamn document, like, every once every few months.
Starting point is 02:16:17 That was really fun. Good work. I really like that he's keeping that going. Like, it's really just like a labor of love. Well, I mean, like, he's just doing it for the memes at this point. It seriously is. Well, I mean, if I didn't, yeah, it's a collaborative effort now because like before I didn't have to do anything and it was just a joke.
Starting point is 02:16:33 Now I actually have to go like download some. I have to do it from a computer or I, no, it's not. I either have to do it from the app. I have to do it from a browser either on my phone or on a computer. So it actually takes a little bit of everyone makes fun of me for being, not being busy. It's an in time investment for me to get that goddamn data. It's not an instantaneous download.
Starting point is 02:16:52 It's something, it takes minutes to download, and I got remember to go back and get the document. But yeah, appreciate you, Nate. What started as a complete fuck you, Keith, has turned into a funny bit. That was a really fun game, Scott. Well done. Yeah, good work. Thanks. Glad you guys enjoyed it.
Starting point is 02:17:11 Did. All right. Want to bring it on home there, Keith? Yeah, Big Scott's. Where are they going to find you on the gram and the Discord? On the Discord, I am Big Scott. On Instagram, I am Scott's lifting page. And the Jim Radar one more time for the fans. The Dog House.
Starting point is 02:17:31 And they can go follow you on there. And in the future, they might be able to even do more than follow you. That was ominous. Big Joey, where are you at? I'm Joey underscore Malesco. I'm L-E-C-Z-K-O. Jim Radar. I am the DILF dungeon. And that's actually it.
Starting point is 02:17:50 Oh, and Discord, I'm big Joey. If you don't know by now, like, that would be, that would be fucking shocking. Dude, there are so many people that don't know that, like, the guy that keeps coming. Like, no, imagine you're listening to this and don't know who I am in Discord. Like, that would be fucking shocking.
Starting point is 02:18:06 It's fair. But there's people that comment in our Discord that don't listen. And I'm like, why? And then they admit, they don't listen. Or then they try and correct me shit. I didn't ask you to comment in my discord. I asked every people that listens to comment. I don't even get into that. We'll get it in the post show. We'll get into that shit. I do have some post show stuff.
Starting point is 02:18:28 The website, unpaid internpodcast.com, the U and you and you channel on the discord where 99% of it's really fun and goofy and having a good time, and there's just a little bit of bullshit we've got to work through. Instagram, unpaid and underrated podcast.com. Nate had that really funny video today. they're uh i think he he was inspired by a different video but he's like sprinting full tilt like like 50 yards and it's like and there's a reason the the 29 year old was the one that sprinted that long because the 41 year olds probably weren't going to be doing that um so you know it's always nice from the other guys we all kind of collaborate to keep that instagram afloat but when i don't have
Starting point is 02:19:08 to do it and i'm happy um on stagree yeah we did all that i'm keith honey got 70s three on Instagram. More importantly, I go follow my orange gym than a wine seller on Jim Radar and Instagram. I think that's everything. We'll see you next Tuesday. I do have to apologize, Scott. Like, I really, I didn't forget that I met you at the Arnold. I think by Arnold experience was just so traumatic. Like hindsight now, like, I literally remember talking to you and your wife, but I don't think I piece that together during the D&D episode. They're like, oh, that's the guy I talked to at fucking the Arnold. So then it's just like, I'm just here the whole time just feeling like an ass and No, I literally had a conversation with this guy.
Starting point is 02:19:45 I remember his face now. But at the time, I was like, oh, I don't know who this guy is. So I don't feel like an asshole very often, but I did just now. We're throughout the episode. So sorry about that. Scott's. Scots. I like that.
Starting point is 02:19:58 The Scots. I like how the Scots thing lived on. Like, I made sure of it. Every time I said it, Scots. I definitely did search Chris earlier. I'm starting to get pissed off because I, like, and I had a whole dialogue, or inner, in her, in her. Oh, Stephanie.
Starting point is 02:20:13 conversation about this too. When I, I sometimes I say inner dialogue, but do I mean monologue, or does both work? So that's a whole other. Well, it depends. Are the voices in your head talking back? No, it's just me talking about. And that would be a monologue. Yeah, so I am having an inner monologue. A soliloquy one
Starting point is 02:20:29 would say. Do you have to say inner or is it just I'm having a monologue with myself? Inner monologue is the term. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds right. Hong Kong.

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