Unpaid And Underrated - 160 : In Cucumber Size (ft. Big Brian)

Episode Date: June 2, 2026

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Brian. They dive right into great topics like snails, sticker sizes, driving, bonfires, and halves. Links Ü&Ü Hoodie Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab Get Your Own Keith Head Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast Our Guest On Instagram @herbalsnails Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar @joey_mleczko Special Guest: Big Brian .

And welcome back to episode 34 of the unpaid, underrated podcast, a podcast by crew for crew. I'm on your host, Big Keith, joined as always by Big Joey. Hello, hello. And this week, we got another buddy here, Big Brian. How you doing, Big Brian? What's up, fellas? Welcome. Welcome to the podcast, my friend.

You drinking anything over there, special, Brian? Yeah, kind of beating them off with both hands over here. I got an IPA and an Aldi grapefruit water. Oh, Aldi. I've never had an Aldi. I think of ever had. Hmm. Where's that on like the scale? Is that even like, is that even in the top 10 of, uh, sparkling water brands?

Oh, man. I would say it's, uh, definitely the top half. That's about as generous as I can be. Top half that could. Yeah. That's, that's very. It's above six and nine. So, yeah.

We're, we're not big math. Like, like, like, wait, the top half of the top 10 or the top half of all sparkling water companies ever existed in the. company like the history of the world i would say that the top half of all of the sparkling waters okay had so that could be like almost you know just one sea hair above 50 the 50th percent right so that's not good okay so very yeah very very we're not dirt water but i think that's not great yeah in the worst case it's still water i got a uh i was desperate i don't have any i'm dying a night so i was looking for i thought we

had a Diet Coke left, but all we had was non-caffeine root beer, which I love, but I was like, fuck, I really could use that caffeine right now. So I got some hot tea to go with it to try to get a little ump going. I've got a PC ginger ale sparkling water. Tastes just like ginger ale, no sugar, no nothing, just sparkling water with flavor. It's amazing. Good, good, good. I'm a rocking little Jim Radar shirt in honor of our, you know, still not sure who they are, but they're probably good guys, so we'll go ahead and support them. you got anything fancy brian what you wearing something blue i see blue i've got the uh weekend warrior

oh yeah oh gee yes cute for me bear it's a good one i just put that one away actually i like stepped over it and i was like what is this doing on the floor yeah i wore that one a couple days ago for the first time and probably a year or more i don't know sometimes it fits perfect and sometimes it's just like oh am i really is why i don't know it's like sometimes the shirt's just over-emphasize the man titties and i was like i don't know i don't want to you I don't want to wear that one today. I got to wear something else. I wonder if you have two.

And sometimes like you, no, like you have two shirts. I do have, I mean, I've made an effort that everything, all my largest and extra larges are packed away, like in like the shrink wrap things under the bed somewhere. So the only thing it should be in circulation are two Xs, but it's possible that something got missed. I am wearing the unpaid and underrated,

designed to buy my wife. I've sure. How time you got one? Yeah. Yeah. Carol's dream really gets in the way very often. And what's funny is like I just, when you showed that up to, like on mine, my like my full front logo, it's more like a two thirds or a third logo. And on yours, it's like actually like nip to nip or almost like pit to pit almost.

So I was like that is kind of like your wife gave us a pretty good breakdown of, you know, it's the same stamp from smalls to four X's. So it's knowing that now, I can kind of see it on people's shirts. I was like, oh, I can see that now. It's kind of neat. You got insight on how the sausage is made. I was just going to say something about sausage. Yep, you beat me. You beat me to the sausage.

Oh, what do we got? Some new Jim Radar features this week. Did anybody get a chance to do some commenting on their buddies' gyms, a little back and forth? Yeah, yeah. I threw it out on the Moving Mountains on Steve's gym. Mm-hmm. But that was about it.

I haven't really been on Jim Radar this week. Yeah, I had a little bit of insider baseball that I knew that was coming out. So it was kind of cool to, yeah, I knew people were, it was going to be a popular thing. And I do like the whole, you can, you know, if inevitably there's going to be a couple assholes on Jim Radar. So the fact that you can block people and like delete comments, I think it's just the smartest thing they could have done. Yeah. Because it's already, like, once you open up the comments, it's just, it could be such filth and drama and hate that no one really wants. Like, we, we have these online friends because our life might have that bullshit.

we're trying to get rid of. So it's like we don't need that online too. So having the ability to purge negativity is nice. So I'm glad that they, you know, gave that option. And also we can always just like, message them and be like,

yo, this person sucks and they can just be deleted. Right? Like it'll be hard to have a profile where you're a jerk and stay on Jim Radar. Maybe. I don't know.

I don't know that Tanner would, that's whoever's behind Jim Raider. I don't know. Someone would have to be pretty, there we go. Yep. Someone would have to be pretty foul, but... Yeah, I think if enough people were like,

this dude is going around and making negative comments on multiple gyms, I don't think they'd stick around long. Tanner's on a comment spree. I don't know if you've opened your radar and gone to following, but he is commenting on every gym he possibly can. Hey, Mofo, you'd really like, like, I can describe it right now, but I just saw Morgan's feet. She's just on the background.

So, Big Aaron, you are, you're missing out my friend because I know you'd be so happy right now. They're talking about how they just saw your feet, Morgan. You can't post that online. I hope Zoom picked that up. She said we couldn't post it online. There's it, we can reassure her there's no video that is going to make it out.

Not at all. We are. No free feet from unpaid and underrated. Anyone that misses, occasionally us posting videos from the podcast and wants to bring that back, volunteer to help us, you know, scrub those videos and go find clips because we ain't doing it for a while. But yeah, the Jim Rader feature is very cool. I know they've got some, well, we can talk about it.

We can segue into this week's YouTube video then because that even is more sneak peeks of Jim Rader updates to come. One of the bigger, one of the things that, like, I'm like 95% positive about everything on Jim Rader. The one thing that kind of irked me was their ranking systems of this. This thing is owned by this many gems. I think this is the number one barbell. And Texas, the Texas Deadlift Bar was quote unquote the number one barbell. But when you factored in that the Ohio Power Bar had like seven different variations,

the Ohio Power Bar had like two, two to three times more people owned a variant of a, sorry, of a rogue Ohio Power Bar. So they are, they hinted that they're going to do some consolidation with that. So we'll see what that ends up working out. But they are aware that there is a slight problem. But it's, you know,

it is somewhat minor. But, you know, to be a, what's, what's the reviews they like to do, ethical or honest or what's the term? Honest and unbiased. Unbiased, yeah. If they really want unbiased big math over there, you know, they do probably got to consolidate some of these identical things that are just slightly different. Identical and slightly different. I did just, you know, contradict myself. But, hey, have you listened to an episode before?

I do that often. Brian, you get, yep, go ahead. Another thing that I think Jim Radar needs to, you know, maybe I'm wrong here. here, but I do think at some point, um, people who get things for free need to be able to somehow mark that. Right? Like if you're an influencer and you're getting stuff sent to you for free, I think it's hard to give a rating on the value.

Right. I think, right? Because the money didn't come out of your pocket. I just think it should be marked because like Instagram would make you do that. Facebook makes you do that. Like this is a paid promotion. This is a paid product. This is a paid thing.

So I think that there needs to be a little bit of that, you know, just to make things really unbiased and honest. Yeah, I mean, Nate, add that to your plate, buddy. Yeah, one more thing. You don't have enough on your plate. Well, to start tag. And not enough people tagged Nate and the, when our website was down, you know, we were pretty disappointed that, you know, no one else really. Unless, I mean, I can just wish that everyone's DMD him or called him or texting him on his personal number. I did say that, dude.

Tag Nate. That's what we do. You were like, that's what Keith does. And I'm like, what the fuck? And then I said, maybe. I know, I know. At first I was like, this motherfucker. And I'm like, okay, that's less of a motherfucker, I guess.

But what else did they talk about? So if anyone didn't get a chance to watch the video, it was basically them building out a gym radar influenced gym, because they're big influencers. But basically like the top one or two products of each bracket, what the fuck's the word I'm looking for? their category. So barbell, rack, attachments, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And the first when they built out basically just taken like the very top item, you know, sometimes two

items, depending on which category it was. Like they gave them a specially bar. They were allowed to have up to five machines or five attachments and then two machines, etc. The first gym that I think they built was like 15, 17 grand, something like that. And then they kind of went through and did like a quote unquote budget, but like still something that was in like the top five items, uh, based on ownership, not necessarily reviews, but like how many people own it. And then they built one for like eight, like six grand or something. So it was really cool that they, you know, it was a nice like, uh, it was just, it was just like a zoom call. So it was just like watching the podcast, but then Tommy had his screen up most of the time. And it was just like a 40 minutes of them just shooting the shit about

building a couple different gyms on gym radar based off of literally just like if a dummy who came to gym radar and just picked the top like 10 things across the board like they would have built this gym and it would have you know it was kind of a cool video so it's that's that good home gym content we're here for very so at what point do you just put vultras on every single wall and ceiling floor right like that's really that's all you need yeah i've i still i think you look like still not a hellraiser you're just like stuck in oh yeah like uh getting splayed out i did i think i used i think did use the Vultra once at Home GymCon because Darko had one on display that was just to kind of sell his amount. Did you review it?

No. Good. Don't get fucking Lippy. Good on you. But shit, I would like to shit on Vultra though, because like Home JimCon. Code unpaid, gets you into Home GymCon. You saves you a little bit of money in the tickets. And you think that, like, I don't think Vulture is selling, is it Vultra?

What's the name of their company? I can't even think of Beyond Power Vulture. whatever it is. Like, that company is not coming to Home GymCon for some reason. And, like, that's the perfect place to get your product in about a thousand or more people's hands that, like, even if a hundred of them, like, like, I don't know, man. Like, I get to me, we're kind of, I am biased towards Home GymCon because my friend, you know, it's something I've been doing for four years straight. And it's just like a community. It's more community that is than anything else to me. But, like, that would be such an easy thing for them to do. They could. Well, we know they're not making

enough money. Those are not expensive toys. No, they're so cheap. Yeah, yeah. They're definitely, yeah. Anyway. That was that. Don't need them. Who needs them? Don't need them. Brian, did you have any thoughts on Jim Radar? You're a little quiet over there. We're ready to listen to that accent of yours.

Oh, on Jim Radar. No. Got a couple of comments on the gym. I've left maybe two. That's about all I've engaged with it so far in the last week. Nice. Have you been, have you used Jim Radar for any purchases or for any wish list items? No, I don't, I don't make purchases anymore. You sound fucking. That's boring. You're just, you built your gym and you're just, that's, that's it, that you're done.

Yeah, that's kind of made. No, of course, I'm always, I'm always looking for things to buy. I just don't actually do it. That's fair. Well, it's still nice to look. Yeah, it's a great resource. Did you turn notifications off? No.

No, you get emails if you get, notifications? Yeah, I get emails. Somebody's commented on my gym. Oh, I'm about to message. Oh, speaking on notifications. No. I just said no, thank you. It's like, oh, we have notifications and I'm like, no thanks. Yeah, I got to mess up your profile. I keep getting them on me, keep getting them on Gmail. Because I think I remember I struggled to get my hotmail signed up. Yes, yes, I have hot mail. Yes, I'm old. Fuck you. I'm not changing my email. But I couldn't get it to work with my, my, what I consider my regular email so then I had to use Gmail which is super easy I just don't like using Gmail

but so then I get like all the spam from Jim Radar of you know not spam but like all the alerts but yes um was I going to say I had a no no no no a notification story but rant I guess a joke big Dan eager he has notifications set up when you even react to a

fucking comment of his oh my god how that's the most wild fucking thing I've ever heard in my life and the reason we learned this was I was going down. Oh, I was looking. What the fuck was I looking? Oh, I did a, the, the, the hundred meter, the 10 meter, whatever the hell. The, the rowing challenge I did, like the sprint on the rower. And I wanted to compare, because that was a big popular thing. Everyone did like nine months ago. And I went back and was like just searching like rower challenge or whatever, whatever it was and found some comments. And then when you're in,

when you search something on Discord, you can go like jump to message and that it takes you to like, the like the thread from a year ago. And then I think as I was scrolling through it, I saw something about Dan a year ago asking like advice on how to set up a, or what people's opinion about a squat and a strong man show would be. And I noticed I hadn't reacted to that. So I gave it a old thumbs up or something. And he literally like commented almost back immediately. Why are you reacting to something from a year ago? And I'm just like, and I think it was a big, big curbs. Like, why are you fucking, why are you, why do you have alerts on like reactions? It's just the wildest thing. So I know that's a very long story to kind of get a

punchline across, but like who the fuck has alerts on for reactions? That's fucking baffling to me. Yeah, I have zero alerts on everything. It's really nice. Unless it's just, I mean, I can see if it's just like a badge, but even even getting that little red number one, I'd be like, go fuck, I don't want to see that.

Yeah, anxiety. Yep, every time. All right. Do you want to talk about our drop and where it's at number-wise? I don't have any updated numbers. Right, but it's 90% out. It's pretty much gone, yeah.

As of Tuesday at 8.30 p.m., there's 11 shirts left. And today's Thursday, so that, yeah. Yeah. And Tanner did talk about it on the drop or on the live last night, but he thinks it would have been sold out if he had, like, guessed a little bit better on some of the sizes. Like if we had a, if we probably had like five more smalls or, well, even mediums, not necessarily smalls.

But if there was probably five mediums and a couple of larges, I think we might have damn near sold out, but, yep, oh, well, like, like, that's,

that's still really, really cool for us. Um, so I'm happy. Big thanks to the crew. Thanks for stepping up, all the compliments. Uh,

I added Morgan to our discord because honestly, I got sick of just sending her the, like, I was literally taking screenshot after screenshot and sending her what everybody was saying. And it was like, no, just adding her at this point.

Uh, and, I was like, I'll fight with Keith if I have to. she's not a supporting member but it doesn't matter. I know, but she's not a supporting member.

Stephanie's in there too, but Stephanie is technically a career. Yeah, I was getting ready for the fight. Then you were like, no, she belongs here. I was like,

oh, thank you. I don't think she's going to be doing anything other than she probably isn't going to even look at it. Oh, she turned notifications off within minutes. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Just fine. Um, I had a little bit of a story I was going to tell, but I think I'll pivot and save that depending on the outcome of it

because I had a little bit of a rant. but I don't want to really say too much. But I did, I will update. Everyone likes my vision update. I did purchase a pair of glasses last night, like actually through my insurance, spent a lot of money. That guy earned his commission because I was like, you know, him and and hauling about this and that. And, you know, told him multiple times.

I'm probably not going to buy today. I'm just looking. I'm trying to pick out a handful. And then he did a pretty good job of kind of like showing me like, you know, I was like, I want something super light, super durable. So he kind of gave me my two options of. of these are super light, maybe not as durable. These are kind of light, but a little heavier, but very durable.

So I ended up going with the lightest ones I could find. And I think I'll be happy, but I don't know. But I do have a 30 day, get all my money back towards another pair and make any changes I want. So like say, like Jen thinks I'm going to hate transitions. So if that's the case, I can get the transitions taken out. And it's only going to cost me what I paid for the transitions. So they'll get brand new lenses transition free, but I just won't get my $75. dollars back. So, I mean, I think I'll like transitions, but we'll see.

Probably not. Most people don't. I don't know. I've, as many people have told me that. I've had just as many people tell me the other way around. So it's like potato, potato, I don't know. But for 75 bucks, I'll take a shot. Because I know I, because I, what, what sold me is when he did tell me, like the 30 day return policy. And it's, it's literally a block away. So it's not like it's an inconvenience for me to get there. So it's like, all right, whatever, let's do it. So. And then, if if if something doesn't resolve positively, I will be able to have some grease and tell a story, but I don't want to spill the beans too soon and get myself in trouble if it ends up just kind of blown up in my face. But that's that's what I had for this week. Yeah, I just had one like,

I know it's been a running joke here, how much you and I both hate everybody on the road but ourselves. But I think it was a very interesting thing that happened the other day. So I'm coming off the highway and I'm kind of like the front of the line. And there's a guy beside me. And it's one of those ones where you come off the highway on the, it's an off ramp or an on ramp at that point. Who knows?

A ramp. Yeah, it's a, ramp onto regular roads. And it ends at a stoplight. And the light's green. So we're all kind of booking it to like make sure we can get the light. And doesn't a skunk walk across the road? I can tell you this was the first time I've ever looked around and went,

good work every other driver on the road because I slowed down. The car behind me did not honk, didn't freak out, nothing must have saw the skunk also slowed down. The guy beside me who the skunk was directly in front of slowed down and gave it space. Like every car on the road was very aware that we don't want that smell attached to our car. And then the skunk ended up running back where it came from. but it was just one of those moments that it stuck out that I looked around and went honestly good work everybody nobody got mad at them at each other nobody freaked out nobody tried to pass illegally or whatever to make the light like everybody was like that's a skunk slow down don't be a dick nicely done yeah yeah good work random people I don't have any positive driving stories people are just getting worse and worse though what a general that's that's sure that that's for sure Jen said something, the extent of like, maybe because I'm my vision so bad, maybe I'm the bad driver. And I'm like, well, the shit I'm mad about is like, I mean, people not scooting up enough at a light when blocking me from going left because it's the way it goes.

Or the no turn signal thing, man. I, that's getting, oh, I fucking hate people to drive without turn signals. And I just, and I'll, because with my truck, I pretty much, I go the speed limit in my work truck a lot. So it's, I'm just like sitting back kind of cruising. And I just see this person. There was like, I think it was today or yesterday. just a lady in a convertible, just passing people on the right,

nonstop, no turn signals once, cutting them off. Just weaving it and out. Like an idiot. Part of me is like, oh man, if you flip that car, your head's going to explode

because you're in a convertible and it wouldn't feel bad. Like, I know that's super morbid, but like fuck you if you don't, like you're going to kill someone so you might as well kill yourself because don't fuck it. I don't want to die

because you're fucking incompetence. Yeah, that's the other one. A little dark with that, but yeah, I fucking can't stand those people. Or when you're in the right lane because it's where you should be most of the time.

then the lane next to you ends, right? Like it's a merging lane. And then the person behind you gets out of the lane you're in, goes into the lane that ends to go up two cars and force themselves in. Yeah. What a cunt. Like honestly, like I will scream swear words at that person all day, every day. Like, why would you do that?

Why would you get out of the queue to then go to people ahead? and make everybody else go back a bit for nothing. Well, they're more important than us. Everyone out there is more important than you and I. You're two car lengths ahead. What did you accomplish? I'm getting mad just thinking about it. That one drives me, and I see it every day.

I think that that's the one that makes me the most mad, because it's just inconsiderate, and it's pointless. Like, you didn't do anything. You're not getting home faster. You're not stuck in traffic. You are the traffic. You're literally a car,

as well. There's a cause. Speaking of not getting home faster, I was so mad today. Like, I can blame myself for this. So I have, like, three or four different ways I can come home, but only one of them takes me past a UPS. And with work, periodically, I get, they just bumper hours a half. Like, if I drop something off for work, they'll just bump my hour, they'll bump my day

a half hour. So, like, if it only takes me seven minutes to do, I still get 30 minutes extra time, which is awesome. Today, I completely forgot I had a package until I was, all the way, like, so far away from where the fuck I would have needed to go. Like, I was somewhat near my house, but I ended up being like 20 minutes away from the UPS store. So I fucking, I cost myself well over a half hour of additional.

So I was just like, oh, I was so fucking mad. And then I'm like sitting there and I'm like, I'm not even sure how to get to that fucking store from this location. So I'm like typing in the GPS. I'm like, oh, fuck, like 18 minutes out of the other way. And then it's another 10, 15 back to my house. I was so mad. But I couldn't be mad at anybody but myself.

So it is what it is. I just thought it was funny. Last week's episode, Brian, what did you think of last week's Massonomics episode? Give us all a refresher and a little rating. So last week's episode was a Q&A episode. Yeah. And lots of cues were aid. The one that stuck out the most was about AI country songs.

And, you know, I just love Q&A episodes, even the ones where I don't get my voice on the podcast. So I'm going to have to rate this one five out of five. AI country song. Nice, nice. What about you, Joy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I definitely listened. My question was on there.

And I think the question I said, I also sent a follow-up and was like, because my question I think was, is Massanomics a merch company with a podcast or a podcast with a merch store? They said Joey, but I wasn't sure which Joe. Yeah, so that was me. And then I was like, by the way,

I know you guys are so much more now, but I'm listening to the backlog. and I'm just wondering, like, where did this come from? Like, how did you guys envision this when it started? So, you know, having that answered was kind of cool. So, yeah, that one was me. I think he even said when we started out, we might have been more of a merch,

or, yeah, more of a merch company than a podcast. Yeah, and, like, that's what I was wondering, because, like, I was just trying to juggle that, like, how do they see themselves? Like, could one exist without the other? Like, if the podcast was suddenly like, well, we can't do this anymore. but we're still going to sell shirts on Instagram,

would they go the opposite direction? So, like, I had that kind of idea in my head. I think they're much with tank, dude. Like, like, we could deep dive that for a couple of minutes. Like, they would for sure, like, I don't know. Like, are you going to, especially now that they've shifted from the beer parody, mostly. Yeah.

That, like, now we're buying stuff with their logo on it or our logo on it. But, like, like, mostly it's, like, original, not parody stuff. So, like, you're not going to sell that necessarily. necessarily without pushing. What they'd have to do, I think, is they did kill the podcast? They'd really have to, like, if they kill the podcast, is YouTube still a thing and is Instagram still a thing?

Like, like, what's, is it just Instagram and no YouTube either? It's like, I don't know. Because then their YouTube, or then their Instagram would have to be, like, every, like, other post would have to be, go buy our shirt because they don't have the podcast to push it. And that almost never works. Yeah, no, because then it would just be unfollowed by so many people. Yeah, so, like, I don't know.

That's kind of what I envisioned when I, uh, I do really, the AI country stuff. I think we talked about it on last week's episode as well. That was such a bad song. It is, but all of Luke Brian's stuff is pretty much this does this and then this

does this so we need to have sex. That's essentially every Luke Brian song ever. So like, as I kind of like deep dove into why do I hate this song so much, it's just established that Luke Brian's awful and all of his stuff is awful. Sorry, Brian, if you're a big fan of his,

you're kind of quiet over there. No, actually, I don't like country music that much at all. Oh, good, oh good. I was like, oh, oh, I just offended Luke Ryan's best room. No, nothing against it. It's just not my thing. I like some of it. I don't really like anything based on the new sound.

I call it Chrome Country or Pop Country or, you know, Atlanta Country or whatever you want to call it. A lot of the stuff I listen to is either from, you know, Texas or like Hank 3 or stuff like that, right? like I listened to that kind of like outlaw music. So yeah, I definitely enjoyed ripping on that for a bunch. And the vegetable bulk was very funny. Just, just those two laughing,

giggling like ninnies over just balking on cucumbers. I thought that stuff was great. Christ. Yeah. I'm gonna give that a five out of five. Oh, who was that? Was it Colton? just down in the cucumber? No, it was a...

Garrett. Yeah, the fucking... The mush eater. Yeah, five out of five, Garrett's mowing down on a cucumber alive. Nice. Just a couple of shots of olive oil. Blah!

Yeah, it was a good episode. Definitely consumed it. I think it was the most ironic thing ever because they were talking about the cucumbers and Nick, not eating them, hot dog sour, whatever they had. I think that's what that.

they said possibly. And that next, that next day or the next day I was back to work after listening to the podcast, I usually take a couple cucumbers to work and like many cucumbers, which are usually like, you know, if you know what, they're not large. You could fucking consume them pretty quickly. I shit you not. This was the biggest fucking mini cucumber. So I'm sitting there like, like this is phallic and like dildo size fucking cucumber.

I'm trying to eat right when they literally talked about on the podcast like two days prior. And I was just, oh, this is. So the irony in that really had me chuckling. I'll be honest, every cucumber is a dildo if you're not a coward. True. Yeah, it's going to be brave. I fucking broke my concentration. All the best vegetables.

They need to be nicely sliced. I think that one got me good because Tommy was having none of that. Like nicely sliced. Like, no, this one's not nicely sliced. That one needs to be differently sliced. I must have been able to, I must have responded. Either there was a couple shitty submissions or I just saw it like at the perfect timing because I think my question was the first one.

But it was a it was a least fun, most fun living in South Dakota basically. And their answers kind of lined up with what I thought they'd be like a lot of the, you know, this seclusion aspect being the most and then just the weather, the peak shittiness of the weather. Like that one week of like negative 50 and wind chill was kind of the worst. So that seemed to track. the country shit. I had to like stop. Like I had no familiar.

I mean, obviously know who Luke Bryant is, but I didn't. I don't follow new country very often unless it kind of hits like certain playlist, which aren't really a lot of the shit that's popular for me. God, that song was the dumbest fucking thing ever.

I said it last week. Don't I, I've been singing it. I walk around. Wake up coffee. Yeah. No. Cam O clam tree.

Like it's, I don't get caught up in that stuff. It's just a list of concepts. It's like you're in the wiggles. Like it's a bunch of verbs. Like that song Friday from back in the day. Oh, God. It's Friday.

It's a banger now, though. Just a list of things that you like. But the one positive, well, the positive of the Luke Bryan thing was when Tanner introduced me to that Talander guy. Yeah. Talander. And I was like. Oh, yeah. Zach Talander or whatever.

Yeah. He's got a couple of songs I like. I listen to a handful of that. I listened to a lot of his, like, Spotify. stuff there, I think that Friday. Friday, God, hey, I'm singing Friday now. Friday, Friday. Because I got that on the live.

But yeah, I'll go ahead and five out of five, sorry Aunt Rich yet. And with that, Joey, affiliates, what you got? Same as always, Obsidian Amonia, Plate Snacks and Belt Fed Strength, Code Unpaid. Again, people are still asking us in the Discord about plate snacks. I think that might be one of our most popular. codes right now that people are still using it still coming in

if you have any questions also message him on Instagram he's very responsive on Instagram you can always email him I don't know if he wants Vector or JPEG or whatever it is like I don't know that I I can't order from plate snacks

I could but the shipping and duties would be stupid so until yeah duty so for now I still have have to order locally. So if you have any questions, actually tag Keith, not me. And beyond that, just tag Nate. Always tag Nate.

Yeah, we got tag Nate. Yeah. Or just message plate snacks directly. But again, Chris, up belt, fed strength, still making good stuff. And I'm sitting pneumonia. Still kicking strong. Travis, I know you're going through some stuff right now. So I hope everything comes through for you.

Love it. Quick follow up on plates next. One of the group chats, I mean, I can't remember who it was, but someone was talking about, hey, I'm finally got a logo, getting ready to order some stickers some plate snacks, code unpaid, et cetera. I think I'm going to go with a forage sticker. And I was just like, do not go with a forward sticker. I'll kill you.

That's way too bit. Big ass sticker. A two by three rectangle or a three inch round, I think is kind of the sweet spot for most people. Don't be like what big stall Matt. Matt did in order like two by twos by accident, I think, or like a one by one. I did that. One of mine, yeah.

The ones I sent everybody are so small. Yeah. But then the first ones I had were too big, right? Yeah, I think, there's a fine line. But yeah, anything this, I mean, this will make a lot of you guys happy. Four inches is too big. Hell yeah.

Especially for Keith. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we're talking cucumbers, right? If you're not a coward. That fucking, that many cucumber I had Monday was bigger than four inches. I tell you that. It was a big fucker. Brian, do you have a Massonomic sponsor for us, my friend?

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Well, I think we got to kick our looky-lose out. We actually had big, big stall mat, Matt, which in our Zoom chat saying his tiny fucking stickers for something that extent. My bad. them. Oh, he did too. No, that's great. I love it.

Speaking of stickers, I finally got magnetic sheets. Oh, they're the best. You're going to do it. I know, yeah. Well, I'm assuming you're going to have Morgan do it because I don't think you have the patience. Look at this bag. This bag is all crew sticker. You're going to be so happy.

My one caveat is like, if you send me seven variations of the same sticker, I'm probably going to put like one or two up. Yeah. Like, I don't, or if I do make the other ones eventually, they're not going to be like on the crew wall because I only have so much space there and I kind of want to get everyone like there. I have my situation. Other people might have more room, but I have an idea, right?

Because I'm in an unfinished basement where all of the duct work is above me. So I'm actually going to just magnet the shit out of all the duct work in my gym. Rather than doing the stickers individually. Oh, you mean you're still going to do them individually so that I can remove them if I ever have to. But like that duct work is just going to be covered in crew logos. I think it's moved there. I think currently my duck work is all like the pictures and stuff.

But then I have one spot where like the stickers, like it's, it's friends, but not crew. So like they don't go in the crew wall, but they don't go like into these. They don't get annexed like to the farther other side where it's just like random company stickers. It's like so it's it's kind of like I have like four different places where stickers go depending on how affiliated with massonomics or home gyms or New York you are basically. Wow. Do you have a spreadsheet for that? No, but I probably should. I honestly do want to make a spreadsheet for fucking stickers.

Not the fact that I fuck them, but for the stickers. For fucking stickers. You should do it. But also, I need to make a spreadsheet. And this isn't a bad idea. Good clarification. I need to make a sticker for the Massonomics cards because I have like multiple extras. And I want to be able to like on the fly look to see.

Because like I have if I have extras, they're like paired with the same one. Like so I don't necessarily off top of my head and know what I have extras of. but I do need to make like a spreadsheet of like and then like the list of duplicates I have so then I can have like trade bait for especially with Lyftard Levisy coming up because I would be nice to bring all my extras and come home with not extras.

Same thing with Hogan's crew cards because there's one I want to get rid of and I'd like I take, actually I already have a deal set in place with that. I think I'm getting the stapler so that'll be a good trade for me. Staple. All right.

Big Brian, are you there, buddy. Ring, ring. Hello, hello, anybody there. Howdy, howdy, howdy. Hey, welcome to the Unpaid Numerator podcast. That is not anybody else's intro, so I guess just take it. Howdy, howdy? I just came up with that.

I just came up with that. Oh, it's original. Never done before. This podcast has introduced so many original themes, games, and, like, catchphrases. So, like, it's fitting. All right, well, the number one question everyone wants to know who you are, what's your Instagram where we're going to find you. Sure.

Brian, no relation to that, Brian. You can find me on the Discord at Big Brian, No Relation. And on Instagram as herbal snails, probably a lot of other places, too. Oh, you're Brian H, too. Like, it's right one away from Brian J. Yeah. Oh, that's good stuff. You can tell right when I came on board.

Oh, that's good stuff. stuff. All right. Well, let's hear about it. How did you find massonomics? Why are you still here? Yeah. So, uh, I guess a little bit of backstory. I'm one of the guys who got started lifting through starting strength. And I think there's a coach affiliated with starting strength out of Mexico. Uh, I forget his name. He had the don't curl and me flag in the back of some of his videos. Uh, and then you can see it says massonomics on. I had no idea what that was. Uh, I forget what that was. And then I just happened to come across on what's Rip A Toes podcast called Starting Strength Radio. When Tommy and Tanner were on that podcast, you know, I like to hate

listen to RIP's podcast sometimes. And those guys were on there and it was just such an interruption fest. But I ended up listening to it like in the guys, they seemed to not take anything too seriously. And then I found the inverse podcast where they had RIP on Massonomics. And then I've been around ever since. Just silly geese. Which was a better episode? Definitely the Mastonomics podcast. Definitely.

Well, like I get that's your opinion now, but when you were just a starting strength fanboy, was it your opinion then, too, you think? Did you trade one cult for another? I guess so. I have to say, though, I've never really liked starting strength radio. I find just ripped personality. Well, I think he's very abrasive. Grading.

He's a little bit of dick. And that's why it was, I put it in the Discord, too, like when he was talking. about how you don't need a bench commands or you don't need press commands and uh you know way outs and stuff like that i was going i actually agree with all of that yeah do i hate myself for agreeing with rip for 30 minutes of his 50 minute interview like no he'll give you plenty more stuff to disagree with if you give him a chance well didn't he also post a one of those yes yeah like yeah there's a ton of his toenails of his tons of reasons Yeah, I'm just like, yeah, but that's part of the reason I was like, so I agree with some of what he said.

Like maybe 70% do I suck? Right? Like, no, he, at the end there, he really, on that episode. But it was a great episode. Yeah. He's got some, he's got some things that you can agree with. But a lot of the stuff he says, I think he just got tired of talking about lifting. Yeah.

Can't blame him. Yeah, it's boring. All right, well, that's how you found them initially. So, but I want to hear the whole. journey of, you know, getting into crew, doing crew stuff, coming out to Crew Falls, I guess, just why did you get so hooked and what all have you done? Yeah, I guess I just, I started getting more involved with the Discord, just speaking up. You know, sometimes I have a hard time just making conversation, even something as easy

as talking to people on a Discord. And it's just a really accepting group of just different kinds of people, but we all have some things in common. There are some common threads. Of course, lifting, but also a lot of nerd culture stuff. And then I think we were listening to one of the podcast episodes, and they were mentioning, you know, crew falls. And my wife kind of pushed me to go. And I'm just really happy I did. But anyway, it's the community that's kept me around. All the other guys, gals. Nice. That's what we like to hear. That means we're doing something right as a supporting membership. Discord, right? Keep the right people around for the right reasons.

We're still trying to run some of them off, but they're still there. You shush over there. So where do you live? Where do you live and where are you from? So I live in a suburb of Dallas called Grand Prairie. It's maybe 20 minutes by car

southwest of Dallas. Texas? Yeah, in Texas. And I grew up about eight hours southeast of here in New Orleans in Louisiana. Okay. I get it. I get it.

I would have never, I would have never guessed Texas for some reason. Also, if anybody can see the back of his gym right now, you would see why I would never guess Texas. Oh, yeah. Look at that gorgeous flag right behind him. Yeah, a little yellow syrup on your chin there. What's that?

Oh, no, we'll get into that. We have tons to talk about that because there's that one, and there's the Flair delis over there. We'll get into that. I assume that's going to come up at some point. I think we've got Louisiana right here. Yep. All right.

Well, what's that one piece of Mathnomics merch that you saw online? One of your buddies wearing you saw it grew falls. And you're just like, oh, I'm going to go buy that. And you realized, oh, limited drops. You waited too long. Doesn't exist again. Oh, geez. This is really stupid.

It's got to be the... If you say sweatpants, I'm ending the call. No, no, I've had two opportunities. It's got to be the lift shorts. So the lift jorts, I had every opportunity to buy them, to be fair. I just didn't because I've got some cut off jorts that I made right around the same time. And I was like, you know, I can't spend money on this. I've got scissors.

I can make these. It's not the same. Nope. Nope. The born primitive jorts just fit more inappropriately, I guess, is the phrase. A little sluggier. Yeah, a little sluggier. That's a good way.

Hoochie daddy, Morgan calls them. you can't wear those to work watch me don't tell me what I could do all right well you've been around a minute you've done some things what's that Hall of Fame status at

where are you sitting so with this I'm at 10 check marks nice nice two away or three away from the cup two away from the cup

two away should be there for LHLE yeah it's a little segue to that then what's so you are so you've become to crew falls but you have done lift hard live easy right so then uh that's what are you signed up for what what is your anticipation what uh you know i want to hear about your lift hard live easy uh road the road to lift hard

leave easy if you will okay uh i'm signed up for the power lifting meet and that's that's it um so this will be my second meet ever okay nice i've got you know barely any idea of what i'm doing that's okay though probably probably squad bench and deadlift probably those things no press. Yeah, about three of each of those probably. Right. Okay. Yeah.

I'm writing it down. Taking notes. Yeah. Okay. This sounds good. I like doing those things. Yeah. Your second meet ever, so what was your first meet?

What was the Fed? So it was USAPL. It was maybe in the neighboring town. So like a 10-minute drive. It was a meet specifically for people who have competed in zero or one. Okay, cool. That is cool. Yeah, it was a really cool event.

But you're definitely going to spoil every other meat by doing the Lipt Hard Live Easy. That is, that is for sure. It's going to be the best and coolest and most fun. And you're going to go, well, everything else is going to be tedious and boring after this. Right. I've done it. I don't need to do any more nerd feds. Is this a solo trip?

Are you bringing the whole family again? No, so my wife is coming. So you met my boys. The boys are actually with their. are getting grandparents for the summer. So the wives are actually kind of fucked over here at the moment. They just got on the plane yesterday, actually.

Where are the grandparents? That they had to fly. The grandparents are in Germany. Oh, damn. Yeah. Such lucky kids. Yeah, they're going to have a blast. We're just selfish, so it's hard for us. So you're a temporary dank. Yeah. So I've never been busy.

I remember. It's smart ass. It's been a minute. That's good stuff. Well, actually, what's, so that, is it the first, how old are your kids? And they're like, like, five, six, four, seven, something like that, right? So they just turned, the youngest one just turned six and the oldest one turned seven. Okay.

March. So have you guys, has this, they're going to be their, is this your first summer without them then kind of thing? Or like, what's the, is this something that they do they do regularly? No, this is our first, our first extended time away from them. I think I've done three weeks. So in seven years you've never had more than a couple days alone with your wife, it sounds like. And that's what your next two months are going to be. Right.

Right. Yeah. It's going to be pretty awesome, man. Like a day here or there, you know, you can always get a babysitter. You can have a date night, something like that. I mean, I'm assuming that's her parents then. Right. That's her parents.

So they're like, they're technically inclined enough to, you can literally zoom them and like talk to your kids every day, I'm sure. Yeah. So, I mean, it's got to be easier to do like international shit like that. Or even, I mean, even if you'd be an hour away or a half hour away, like, it's going to be easier for, like, grandparents and, like, kids and, like, parents and kids, they just interact with each other now than it would have been 20 years ago. Yeah, it's really shrunk the world. For sure. So, so that'll make, I mean, but that'll make your traveling a little bit easier, too. And I haven't to, you know, you guys can, you and her can kind of let, let your hair down a little bit more probably.

Well, her, maybe, maybe, maybe not you. We can degenerate max. Degenerat. Yeah. I don't think we'll actually do it. But we could. Nice. You guys flying or driving up to Aberdeen, the dean?

We're driving. Nice. Yeah, I thought you drove to Sue Falls last year, right, or did you guys fly? We drove last year, too. Yeah, I remember you telling me that. So, yeah, my wife actually wouldn't let me drive in the snow once we got there, which is probably fair. Oh, because you're not as used to it as she is growing up in the West.

Okay. Maybe a couple of days every year here. I'll get the opportunity, and it's pretty flat here. That's actually really funny. Yep. She's like, pull over, you're not driving I am. I don't think so, sir. Just for a good segue, I'm going to do least fun and most fun,

and then we'll circle back to the other three things because this is completely relevant. So I had this, this was my least fun, most fun. Least fun, most fun, having a wife from Western New York. Oh, man. Most fun would have to be differences in pronunciation of things. You know, when I would flip the light switch upwards, I would say on.

She would say on. And this comes out all the time. And, you know, you guys are both in the same region as where she was from. His wife and my wife probably grew up an hour apart from each other and are almost the same age. And where I currently live is within 45 minutes of maybe an hour of where his wife grew up. Yeah. Yeah, I'd say that's the most fun. Are these little, what do you say?

accent differences, emphasis differences that come up here and there. And both of you still have these. Obviously, like, your accents haven't kind of melded into each other. It's still very distinct. I think so. Nice. Hers definitely sounds the same to my ear, anyway.

I don't know if other people would agree. Least fun would probably be how difficult it is to see. So her parents are in Germany, but her extended family are all in Western New York still. So it can be kind of difficult to see them, to introduce the boys, Like when I grew up, I would see my cousins, my aunts and uncles all the time. All of us lived around New Orleans.

You know, every couple of weeks we would go see someone. And for the boys, they don't get to have that experience because we're the only ones out here. Makes sense. Well, I just thought I have some fun with that because when I had met your wife and we literally had a whole conversation about where she was from, and was like, oh, that's literally like I work there and drive by there all the time. So get a kick out of that. And ironically, I don't know if I was the only, like, you're. You're my wife and your wife, very similar features, the facial features, correct?

I'm not crazy thinking that. I think we had a whole conversation about that in December, didn't we? Yeah, I agree. I think I caught your wife out of the corner of my eye and thought Stephanie was there for a second. I had to do it to a whole take and then came over to you guys and said something to that extent. Are they similar height as well?

Probably. Stephanie's like 5, six, five seven. Yeah, okay. Yeah. So, and I just, I thought it was funny because like the more I talked to her, I was like, oh, because like she said she was from Batavia, but she really wasn't. She was from one of the... Byron.

Yeah, which I know were Byron's like 40 minutes or a half hour north of Batavia or whatever. It's like a thousand people maybe. Yeah, so that was pretty funny. All right, that's what I got for least fun and most fun. We can circle back to supporting member. Wait, what's your sporting membership number? Where yet? So my gold card says 401, but, you know, sometimes Tanner is in the Discord and he just feels like updating everyone.

So it's actually 344 now. Nice. we've got some flux. It might even be less. Was that like from one of his, when he went on a rage, when he goes on a rage every now and then and just like anyone that comments,

he gives him their number. Honestly, it could be, it could be that or it could be five less. You really don't know. Right. But it's pretty good. So you are circling back to the sparkling

water top half, bottom half, you're now technically on the top half of the sporting memberships. Awesome. By big math, right? I don't know if I'm, quite OG yet, but I'm working

my way up there. Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice call back there. I'm going to get the feeling that you've listened to most, if not all of our episodes. Yeah, so I haven't listened to all of them yet. I think I might have 20 or 30 that I haven't

gotten to yet, mostly towards the earlier end. So I've got some bits and pieces at the beginning and then just about all of the current ones. So like the past year, Yeah, like the past year. Yeah, you're caught up. That's awesome. Yep. I can tell.

Just the way that you're dropping references and jokes and stuff like that. Do you have a certified training facility? Are you certified and follow up? What's the name? Tell us why. Tell us where it comes from. Yeah. So I'm certified.

I'm double certified, I guess. Nice. I know that doesn't mean anything. The gym is called B3, which is meaningless. It was just something that was easy to make logo for. I got a sticker somewhere.

Yeah. I don't have that sticker. I noticed that today. You know what? I've got a sheet full of international

forever stamps. So I'll get you on. Yeah, I've got a couple there too. I was going through your Instagram and I was going through all your crew stickers and I was like, I'm not on there.

How am I not on there? But also, anybody listening and to you, Brian, I am the worst for reaching out to request sticker exchanges, but I will answer you within seconds if you request one from me.

That's on me. That's just, I'm so bad at reaching out to people for that kind of thing. I want them. I just forget how to be a person. Same here. I love stickers just in general, but if I have to talk to a person to get one, it may never happen. Oh, yeah, I, yeah.

Pens, I'm really good at asking for. I've discovered that my certain level of autism really loves a good free pen. so I have like a collection of free pens. So whenever I'm at a festival, I will walk up and go, can I have one of those? But that's the only thing I will ever ask for. Anything else, I'm just like, I don't need that. I don't want to talk to anybody for that.

Right. What if they laugh at me? I'd like a Masonomics pin. I think that'd be a cool little thing. That would be a good gift. Well, actually, I think the first person, if you're listening, the first person to make their gym logo on a pen, and send one to me,

I'll get you on the podcast to talk about it. Not to be a guest, but you can come on to talk about it. Yeah, you can take 10 minutes in general topics. That would be such a... It's a shitty ballpoint pens, right? Because it's like, well, you'd almost have to go, you couldn't do the one that's like the octagon,

like the ones hurt your finger. It'd have to be like a solid, round, cylindrical thing. But then the logo would have to be so small. Like you can. I think, yeah, yeah, I think you'd almost just have to be like the words. Like, I don't even, like, you could just be like the no wine cellar, but like not necessarily like NWC with the font and shit. But I don't know. Masonomics would be pretty easy.

It would just be big, bold. Just do the script, right? Just the word, yeah. Massanomics. Interesting. Someone's got to make those. Do like branded stuff. All right.

So you had a decent amount of people submit. I do appreciate that. How did you go about doing that? and what did you explain you and you was, or was it just very simple? Oh, man. It was pretty difficult, actually. So, hey, could you, listen, I've got a form for you to fill out. It's a very in-depth form, if no one's aware.

It's very in-depth. It's an in-depth form for, I'm going to be interviewed by some people. These are people that I talk to on the internet. It's a Discord. Do you know what Discord is, Dad? these are people who are in this group because they like a podcast. And now I think you know what a podcast is. This is a podcast about people who listen to a podcast.

Yeah, let's just stop talking about this. Could you please fill this form out, Laura? That's about as far as I'm talking. You were a really good role. That was like as sarcastic as it was. That was as accurate as it needed to be almost. Yeah, that's the size of it, I think. Or the cucumber?

The size of the cucumber. All right, you got a hype person or, uh, you get your thing. I think we're caught back up on normal track here. Oh, geez, about time. Hey, now. I, I, I will segue as I see fit. I've never tangented. I've never gone off on a tangent and brought up anything silly.

No, that wouldn't be me. So, yeah, if you could train with anybody. I'm not even going to go high person with you. I'm going to go training partner. You could have any training partner. Um, historical, living, fictional, who would it be? You get one training session with them. You know, I think it would be such an ego boost to train with the old guy at the YMCA

who likes to big you up and say, hey, you know, leave some weights for the rest of us. You don't have to lift all of the plates, but. Oh, okay. Yeah, generic, gloved guy who's doing, uh, he's always on about three different machines. but we'll always let you work in. Always. Yep. I know the guy.

And he's got that fatherly instinct to just tell you, hey, I think you're doing a good job. Yep. No, that's actually, that's a good answer. The one gym I went to had that one guy. Yep. Always had the gloves. He was 80-something years old.

Just killing it on every machine. But he would get out of your way. Oh, do you need this? I'll just wait. I'll go to that one. Yeah. I know the guy. I used to lift heavy too.

You know, when I was your age, my knees. My knees. Oh, I'm so mad. I got the fly, and there's another one. Yeah, yeah. Kids leave the door open. Door welcomes in flies. It's fruit fly season over here, too.

Yeah. All right, Brian. Occupation is a little or as much as you want. Based on all these submissions, it looks like you've walked in many different shoes in your professional career. Yeah, so currently, I work in a research laboratory at a public university here of Texas. Mostly I'm doing computational analyses for, it's a common kind of thing that we do in biomedical sciences where you compare like protein expression between different conditions. And one of the things that you have to do is analyze all this data as just giant spreadsheets.

And it's not super difficult, but nobody wants to learn how to do it. So that's why I'm doing it is because I'm not intimidated by learning new things, I guess. It's a good skill. And anything, any other previous careers that might resonate with other people? Yeah, so I actually went to college relatively late. So I went right out of high school and then kind of chase girls around for a while and dropped out. And I got a job at the test. As one does as an 18-year-old.

Yeah, but if you do it hard enough, you fail all your classes and you have to leave. Yeah, I have did that. So when I dropped out of college for that first time, I went and applied for the telephone company, which at that time was Bell South. It's one of the baby bells that became AT&T again. And, yeah, I worked for the telephone company as a lineman. I started right before Hurricane Katrina, and I worked there for about five years. I saw some of the shifts that you were working

Five years collectively or five years on the calendar Because it sounds like by the hours you were doing You did five years in about two Yeah, I didn't work in no 72 hour fucking week Or in 89 or whatever the fuck it was That's Yeah, so I worked alternating 74s and 80s For about three of those five years

I was just over 19 years old So it was really difficult You know, I want to go out and hang out with my friends kind of reasons. So that was a big driver for me wanting to go back and give another shot at college because I felt like I should at least finish that. That job would run you into the ground. Yeah, it's good to make, you know, all that overtime.

But that's kind of the only time you can actually do it is when you're single, you don't have any kids, any of that stuff. It would be impossible now. Yeah. Do you actually put any of that away or were you just a dumbass burn on the limited free time you did have? A little bit of both. I put a bunch away. So once I started thinking about going back to college,

I started putting some money away. I needed a new, like a more reliable car because that's some stupid bullshit car at the time. I saved up enough money to pay for maybe a couple years of books and tuition at the school that I was going to, which was UNO at the time. And then, I guess, not to get too political, the governor basically slashed the education budget

and all of the... You'd say like science classes, a lot of the mathematics classes were really tough to schedule. So I had to leave and I ended up going to Tulane, which is a private school in New Orleans. And basically all the money I saved up was meaningless there. It's a much more expensive school. Drop in the bucket. Yeah. So I got a like a partial academic scholarship there, but it's still a ton of money that it costs.

Nice. Do you want to explain what? the Herbal's Nail, Herbils, really? No, I got to have it. I was, because I know what it is. It's the other one. It's fucking hard to see.

Herbal snails, put on your glasses. Yeah, they're farther away. Are they? It doesn't sound like it. So herbal snails is just an anagram for my first and last name. That's, that's all. That's all it is. But it sounds so much deeper.

Yeah. So good for you. Is this a hippie that likes fucking snails and like tea or something? Whoa, snails are great. I'm not saying they're not. I'm just saying it's not my username. My username's not fucking like mosquito. Orange snails.

Mastito monster. Just smoking ganja and eat Nescargo. Wow. No, I read a book a while ago on snails about this woman that was breeding them. and just how like they have a personality and she was like one of the first people to record the sound of snails eating like it was ridiculous yeah there's a there's a whole world of snails where i just mad respect i just got mad respect for snails after that anyway side dope all right no i ruined the podcast everybody went no no no i could see it both of you were

like no it's i just went down a rabbit hole of like it's so sad that like 80% of the animals that we kill every day do have personalities and some type of brain thought. And that's where you made me go. And now it's just like, fuck. Now I'm sad. I thought you were going to tell me that she was recording the the snail's mating.

Ew. Do they do that? I don't remember from the book. Or they're like, could you imagine what a snail's dick would look like? If a snail looks like a fucking snail, that dick would look so fucking unique. Yeah. And it's probably some like barbed weird fucking thing. I'm not going to, big, big Jeff Google that and tell me what it looks like.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell me where you found it. It's like to stay away. All right. Back on track to the meat and potatoes of what we're here for lifting. The meat and potatoes on snails. Yeah, yeah, the meat and potato. So how do they do it though?

I know they do, right? Like, they just mash up. Like, I think they rub bellies. I don't know. Not a snail sex expert. Getting hot in here. It really is. I'm spicy.

All right. A lot of different conflicting information. Somewhere it says you'd started in 23. Someone said it started a long time ago, but you kind of just dicked around and you started lifting heavier recently. So I want to hear your athletic journey. Yeah. So I'm not sure who said I started lifting a long time ago.

I might have had a bench press one of those cheap sets that you would give from Academy when I was in high school. I might have gotten... That's a long time ago. Yeah, maybe like just doing some benching. I never had much of a bench press, so this was just maybe when I was 16.

That is one of the events in the power of we meet, though, as Joey reminded you earlier. Yeah, I've got it in my notes here. And also, you were in high school at the time, so it was 405 easily. It was at least 405. So I wasn't an athletic kid. I never did any sports, really. I did some in middle school,

but high school, nothing. college, nothing. Just kind of a sedentary life. And then I've been aware of starting strength since around the time I graduated high school, I guess. No, it had to be later than that. So I've been aware of this, but I've never actually done it because I didn't have like any of the equipment necessary except for a bench, basically. So I started lifting.

It must have been late in. like the year 2020 and then I had to quit because my kids were well my my oldest kid was a toddler and he hit me right in the nuts one time when I was bench pressing a very unimpressive weight and I was worried this kid's going to kill me so I put it on hold

and then I started up in earnest in 2023 in April you took one nutshot and you quit working out for three years I was terrified but like you got weight over your face you were going to hurt the kid or you were hurt yourself I guess, yeah, I guess, yeah, I could see if the kid aspect, because if I just randomly like, like something fell on my dick when I was working out, I wouldn't stop working out. But if you were a fear of your kid hurting you and then you dropping something on him, I get that, I guess. Yeah, it's hard to keep an eye on him when I'm looking at the ceiling.

I think I how many more gains you'd have right now if you didn't miss those three years, though. Like, you'd have so many more injuries and be probably at the exact same strength. I was going to say, like, you would have had a great two years and then plateaued like the rest of us. Yeah, exactly. That was the joke. You would not be much stronger. I'm with you on that one because like I, I've told the story before of how I was lifting rocks in the driveway. And I look, my little girl's like 20 feet away.

She's two, I think, at the time. So I pick up the rock, get it on my shoulder, put it, like I drop it to the ground. And then she's two feet away. And that rock would have killed her. Exactly. And that was when we stopped lifting rocks in the driveway, right? Like that was like, nope, this is. done. There is no scenario in which I continue to do this, even if you tell me the kids are

inside locked in their room. Like, it's just, I'm with you on that one, because that is a terrifying moment. They just don't understand. And, no, they're kids. They're determined to kill themselves in every aspect, right? Especially if it's you doing something that's out of the ordinary, right? Yeah. So, no, I'm with you on that one. I get it. But at the same time, sorry that you got interrupted for three years that's no big deal I'm doing it now yeah you are doing the best place possible I know we've said starting strength multiple times

is that what you're running now or are you doing what are you doing for your programming? No so starting strength is maybe maybe seven or eight months or so so from starting and then about seven or eight months is how long I got out of it before I had to change programming up to still make progress

right now I'm doing a program by a guy called Andy Baker out of near Houston it's just a power lifting prep so it's the first time I've actually run something like this it's not super familiar but it's not very strange either and usually I run one of his other programs which is like a heavy light medium program

just something that I like to do nice you a morning lifter afternoon lifter night lifter when do the kids that you get out there. And how's that going to, your summer, well, I guess answer that. But then like, yeah, sorry. Haven't having an empty house.

Wow. Well, it's because, like, I wanted him to answer. And I know I cut them. I know I'm bad at, like, asking a question, half answering it and then asking another one. But, like, having a empty house for the next couple months, that's going to change what, you know, how you have been training, I'd imagine. Yeah, he's lifting naked now. Yes. Yeah.

I'd live naked. Yeah. I have the garage door halfway open now and I can just lift naked. It starts open from the bottom Yeah Well they can't see my face You can't prove it was me Who's cucumber is this

Yeah I lived when I get off of work I can identify that tallywhacker Okay I'm gonna mute Because you got me on that one Could you pick them out of a lineup I love that movie If I haven't seen Porkies

Go watch Porkies It's one of the best dumb sex comedies ever Camback That was good So I lived when I get off of work, or usually I start, right? So I'll get home, I'll get off of work. Since I work in a lab at a university, it's really loosey-goosey.

I can kind of go home whenever I want. So I finish what I'm doing for that day. I get home. It's usually before my wife gets home. My kids are in aftercare, like after school. So I can come pick them up, you know, after school. So I'll do something. Like if I'm squatting, it takes me forever to warm.

up. My shoulders are really, they've got terrible mobility. So it might be like, you know, at least 20 minutes before I'm actually doing a working set. I'll get some of that work done. And then, oh, you know, it's dinner time. So I'm going to stop. We're going to go inside to have dinner. And then I'll usually start again around the time we put the boys to bed. So that'll be eight o'clock. So it'll be a big gap in the middle. So I'll try to finish like one lift. And then we do like just accessory. Like you're not, you're not like doing like your last set of squats three hours later. You're just going to like switch over and do your accessory and secondary lifts. Okay. Right. And sometimes like with the program that I usually run, I'll do two or three main lifts just at,

you know, at a lower intensity. So I might finish my squats and I'll do bench after bedtime or something. Makes sense. Can I pick on you for a minute and your home gym? Okay. So earlier you said your home gym's done. You don't need anything. It's perfect. You didn't say that, but you implied that like you wouldn't be making any purchases anytime soon. then you just said that it takes you 20 minutes to do a squat warm up. Okay, well, they make, they make duffalo bars, they make bow bars, they make safety squat bars. Benching might hurt your shoulders too, so they make neutral grip bars. Do you have any of these secondary bars that you can implement in for, you know, waves to where it doesn't take you a 20 minutes to warm up your shoulders?

I'm just curious. Yeah, so I do have an SSB. That's what I've used. So I injured my shoulder late last year, and I couldn't really bench so much. and squatting isn't what injured it, but it would be really tough to wedge my shoulders backwards. 100%. So I just squatted with the SSB from, I want to say like December,

like right around crew falls until very recently, actually. So maybe two weeks ago. That makes more sense why you're taking so long warm up right now than I got you. Yeah, so I'm almost 100%. I'm just happy that I can get under the bargain since I've signed up for a power lifting me. Yeah, for sure. And this close, you kind of, you know, You can maybe mix the SSB in once every three weeks

if your shoulder's starting to hurt or whatever. Or, in worst case, if it's still fucked up, you could literally SSB until like two weeks out and just do like a couple sessions. It's not going to be ideal, but I'm sure you can get a couple squats in, no matter how fucked up you are. I see, so I see you actually have the safety squat bar strap

from Sputank. Which SSB do you have? You've got the Titan. Yeah, I've got the Titan. Yeah, a little gym radar hack. Me, I would never. I just know these things. Did you buy the S&B once you were already hurt?

And you were like, fuck, I need a way to squat. Or was something you already had? And it just worked out perfectly that you were able to use it the last seven months, six months. Yeah, I bought it when I was hurt. So I was basically just sitting around depressed. I'm never going to squat again. You know, I'm going to the YMCA trying to do something like a squat. They've got all these machines.

My 19 plate leg press for reps. I'm never going to squat again. Yeah, just crying about it. But, yeah, none of the machines at the YMCA felt anything like a squat to me, because basically all I've done is squat with a straight bar up until that point. So I would do them, I would do hack squats or something. And then I would get under, so like a regular, they've got a machine that's more like a squat,

and then I just felt incredibly weak, and I just didn't think this was going to work. Like, I don't feel like this is an appropriate replacement for a squat right now. Which machine would a Y have that's like that? Hack squat? So they've got a hack squat and then a leg press machine and they've got something that rests on your shoulders. Like a linebacker squat thing. It's like a vertical hack squat.

It's like a hack squat, but you're at 90 degrees, probably not. Yeah, I'm unfamiliar with this particular machine. You basically have a yoke over your shoulders and you're just going 90 degrees up and down with a squat. Yes. It's not a pendulum. I think it's literally called a squat machine. No, not a bench. I think if you were to Google it, it's it or a gym radar, it is a squat.

It's some companies would call it just a squat machine. But I think I think some companies call it like a lineback, like the linebacker attachment, I think for some reason that's what it's called. But good to know. Good to know. So you are willing to add stuff to the gym as your body gets fucked up, which is honestly how I think a lot of us come to our first couple of specialty bars. Yes, exactly. I think it's, so my wife talked me into that bar. you know, it's $300.

It's not, it's worth that price if you can squat again. And to be fair, she was completely right like she always is. I've been squatting on that far. Like I said, for like the past half a year almost, I've actually just squads would be looking good right now then. I almost have to like overcompensate your hamstrings just to kind of offset because it's such a different lift, but it's still, it's still a squat. It's just slightly different.

More dead lifts. Yeah. Well, maybe more already else. But yeah, I actually just did the programmed weights that I would have done with straight bar. I've hit all-time PRs on the SSB. That is impressive. That's kind of crazy because normally you wouldn't- Most people should lose, you know, a percentage, but for a lot, you know, 20, 30, 40 pounds.

Yeah, I don't know if it's, you know, my anthropometry or what, but, you know, it's definitely different. And it's a lot harder to keep my torso upright. Is that like bone structure? I don't know, I'm not over there. I think I know what that word means. Relative limb lengths, I guess. So I've got, I guess, short femurs, not like Olympic lifter level short,

but I'm a relatively upright squatter in general. Gotcha. So, yeah, it was different, but I just kept with it. And, yeah, at the end of the block, it was a PR for those rep ranges. Well, I wonder then if your straight bar is higher than you think it is.

It could be. Do you high bar or low bar? High low bar. The high bar is just really uncomfortable since I don't really do it, I guess. Of course. It could be a little high. Low bar for me is incredibly uncomfortable. But I, yeah.

The placement of the high bar you're saying? Well, like when you're squatting with a straight bar, like some people, I rest mine directly on my traps. So I squat as high as fucking possible on a straight bar. Some people low bar down to about, yeah, about down to the, their shoulders and they're using a lot of their biceps and stuff to to maintain it. It makes the squat easier, but it's for me, way less, way less comfortable. Yeah, high bar is a good variation.

Yeah, well, if you can handle, like, where it sits, but also, uh, because it is less pressure on your elbows and shit. So in your shoulders. So in your case, low bar squatting right now probably sucks really bad. And I would not recommend doing high reps. I wouldn't do more. If you're coming off that bad of an injury, like I personally wouldn't be doing more than like a double or a triple in a low bar position.

Because then get your volume on the SSB or, I don't know. But you do you, man. You're going to have fun. I want to see a big squat from you this year. So you said you had a sparkling water and what, an IPA? Yeah. This is from a local brewery called Martin House. What do they call it, May Day IPA.

It's got this cool can. Oh, that's not going to work. No, I see the skull. I see that they live. It looks like it the, yeah, they live with a cool. To bring it back to Discord, do you also eat spicy food? Do I eat spicy food? Uh, sort of. I don't have a very high spice tolerance. Ooh, okay. That's going to ruin my segue. Do you also go into roller coasters? Roller coasters. I would if we would go to a place that had them. I don't have any problems whatsoever with rollercoaster. How about horror movies?

Yeah, I like horror movies. Okay. So that brings it back to the Discord where we're talking about people that drink IPAs, eat spicy food, go on roller coasters, and horror movies are all linked. So that's interesting. Yeah, actually. Big Kevin, I think, or was it Jeff, was Kevin? It was Jeff and Kevin talking about it back and forth. Yeah, Kevin initiated it as he was going through our backlog.

So good job. Appreciate everyone that listens to our backlog. So actually, the reason I was like, that's going to ruin my segue. is I do want to confront, not confront. That sounds like it's... Yeah, I'm so fucking aggressive. Right? That sounds way more aggressive, but I want to talk about...

The way to make enemies. The Canadian flag, the Fletelease. So you are technically Canadian. I don't know about that. I'm part of an ethnic group that I guess is mostly associated with Canada. And if you change the way that you pronounce it, a bit is mostly associated with Louisiana. So we've got Canadian roots, we would say.

Yeah, I've talked about that on the podcast before, actually, about how the phrase Acadian then went down to Southern U.S. and became Cajun because it was just an anglicized version of Acadian. Exactly. So the majority of the still Acadian population is here in the Maritimes. I've been there. They speak frangley, which is a mix of English and French. I don't know if you've ever heard them.

talk, but it is gorgeous. It will be half French, half English, mostly swear words. It's wonderful. So tell me a little bit about that and why you put the Canadian flag behind you in your gym. Yeah, so the Canadian flag is in the gym because we were visiting some friends in Toronto maybe two years ago, and it was just a keepsake. And, you know, I just like flags in general, so I wanted to hang it up. And it's not unrelated to the larger flag right here, which is Louisiana an Acadian flag. And then I think over here somewhere I've got the Acadian flag. It's hard to see.

Now, the one flag you have there, the Acadian flag has the Flauglies on it, and that's actually the symbol of Quebec. Yeah. Quebec. Right here. Yep. So we've got the Flera Lys, and then you can't see if there's a castle here. Mm-hmm.

And the star is representing the Acadian flag over here. I love it. I think the castle represents Spain because the... Louisiana territories were technically controlled by Spain when the Acadians were expelled to Louisiana. So everybody still spoke French here, but the governor was Spanish. And the bells of steel, I see the plates there. Yeah, so there's a lot of Canada over in your gym in some form or another.

So that's really nice to see. Yeah, they make good stuff. Well, they do, but I also, I like the Acadian thing because I think I've talked about it before. but I don't think anybody's had a good explanation for what it is. And you seem rather... Oh, yeah. Rather in...

What's the word I'm looking for? You're knowledgeable in the... Yeah, we can get into it if you want. Well, that's why I brought up the spicy food, because you're from Louisiana. I know it's the home of a lot of really good Cajun... mid-level spices, right? Like, they don't do the crazy habanero ghost pepper insane stuff, but, like, they've got some good flavors down there. That's why I thought that would be good segue.

Yeah, I think we get a lot of like stereotyping about spice, at least in the U.S. Oh, you know, Cajun food is so spicy. And I don't find that as being true. It is it is spiced, of course. But I think a lot of it is maybe the Louisiana tourist board really bigs that kind of stuff up. Like, oh, yeah, Cajuns are here. And this is the kind of food they like. They love cayenne pepper on everything.

But Cyan, like I said, mid-level spice. Like you guys are known for spicy. your food better than most of the other places. I would agree. Yeah. Can confirm, do love a good Cajun spice. Yeah, I want. Do you have the lemon pepper gene?

Do you, when you eat chicken? No, it tastes great to me. Yeah. You don't have the gene? No. That's a nice little callback. What's this bonfire story? That's been going on for 20 years or whatever.

Sounds like a ritual. I'm in. Yeah. So this is, this we're not certain where this tradition came from but it's in in the u.s it's at least 300 years old where on 20 yeah more than 20 so we've been doing it for 20 years my friends and I a couple of the respondents to the questionnaire are my friends from this group where you build bonfires along sometimes the bayous but in this case it's on the

Mississippi River levee to light the way. The story goes to light the way for Per Noelle, that kind of thing. Some people do it for Easter, not people in Louisiana, but European tradition. Sometimes it's for Easter. Sometimes it's for Christmas Eve. We've been building sculptural bonfires for probably the last 20 years. And maybe in the last 10 years those sculptural bonfires are Louisiana wildlife. So like you'll build it in to look like the characteristics of the animal that you're trying to

And then when it burns it actually look like that momentarily or it looks like that for a while I guess I'm trying to envision that So once they start burning they they look like what they are for about five minutes is really How like like like the scale like what do we talk like on average 10 like in cucumber size how big we're talking. No, but I really say, I'm curious. We're talking like 10 feet, 20 feet. Cucumber size. How big are you making these things?

If we've got a standard 12-inch cucumber, I think the tallest one. It really depends on the subject. But so as tall as it would be, it would be about 15 feet maybe. Probably not much more than that. And the alligator and the snapping turtle that we did were mostly horizontal.

tall, those would be 30 feet maybe, very, very long. And you're building this with like what materials? Wood, because it burns. No, but like, obviously you're not fucking, you're not spending $1,000 at Home Depot to buy this, right? You're, like, scavenging, like, fallen trees and shit or like, I'm very curious. Sorry, that was such a dick answer to. Yeah, yeah. He's right.

There's wood. You ever tried to burn that shit? It really works. So it's mostly like. three-year-old willow trees. That's the bulk of the wood that we get. So we cut them down. They grow like weeds, especially in like delineations between property. People, you know, we'll just go, hey, can we take some of these trees? And we'll cut them down. It takes a couple of seconds to pull one down. We can have a load of, I don't know, maybe 50 or so in a trailer,

drive them over to the site, unload, do it again. We'll spend probably two months cutting wood, gathering it, putting it on the levy, and then probably another two months actually building the bonfire. Oh, damn. So wait, this is, but you, are you active, so you go home?

Because you're in tech, okay, so you make how many trips in a four month period of time to contribute with your friends to get this done? Well, nowadays, it's usually just like once or twice

because that's, with kids and everything, that's about what I can manage. But how many are there several in the group then, and it's kind of like carried the weight when you can? Yeah. So it's all in total

There are probably about 15 guys Okay that makes more sense Like 15 regulars Most of them still live there There's another guy One of the respondents Will Lives I think he lives in Mississippi now

So he has to drive in whenever It's time to do anything too He tries to do a lot of stuff Behind the scenes Negotiating permits and stuff Oh yeah I can see there being a whole bunch of shit like that You gotta So jokes aside

You're not using nail guns and shit. Like, are you threading them together, braiding them together? Like, how are you creating the structure? So the things typically fit together just by, like how you build a log cabin, where you cut, what do you call, recesses in some of the logs. Yeah, notches, exactly. And then it fits together just like log cabin structure. Licking logs.

Yeah. And the infill is just loose logs that you've cut. usually from those are typically from fallen trees because they can be a lot bigger you're not going to cut a tree that's like two and a half feet across with just some dudes you know that's dangerous you don't want to cut a tree like that down anyway now is there anything you want to plug for this like someone if someone was interested want to see this on instagram or social media or something is there any anywhere you would direct them to see images of this or do you guys have its own i would hope you have some kind of dedicated social media to this that sounds kind of cool considering you've been doing it for 20 years and it takes you fucking months to make it. I know I document that. Yeah. So I don't, we've got like a merch website or something like that. But if you search for blood, sweat, and bonfires, you'll find whatever they've done. I'm not sure who that's you and your friends. It's not just like, because it sounds like there's hundreds of people to do this, but like, okay, but this is specific to you and your buddies. Yes, exactly. So blood sweat and

bonfires is our group. This is something that lots and lots of people do. If you drive along the Mississippi River. Oh, wow. New Orleans and Baton Rouge. You'll see hundreds of bonfires. Tourist attraction in Garyville, Louisiana. That's you? Yes.

Okay. I found it. Did they schedule the fires to where, like, over the course of like a week, there's one always burning? Or is it just like, hey, this hour window, everyone light them up and it's just fucking fire. You guys are on Nola. You guys are on Nola.com.

Yeah. So it's actually kind of a big, it's not a very large town where we set this up. we'll have you know 20,000 people on this little two lane highway there I know, I know. It's just the way you said it, the way your accent, it made the words sound identical to the other one, so I had to call back to

the college two lane versus you saying two lanes. Yeah. The bonfires are all Christmas Eve. Usually at sundown is when we'll light them. If you want to see one, you got to pick your favorite one. So then do you make it back for Christmas? Eve then or do you kind of have to split Christmases with the wife's? Well, I guess you're not going to Germany

for Christmas very often. Yeah, sometimes, roughly like one out of every three Christmases I try to make back. Unfortunately, it's not a huge priority to go hang out with my friends. You know, we go see my family, but I try to guilt them into coming this way as often as possible.

It's a lot easier on us. Well, it was very interesting. Not a lot of people have done something for 20 years, even if it sounds like you're a little more less involved now, but still something you're part of. It's just, it's kind of cool.

It sounds like it's a little, like if you didn't enjoy it, you probably would have given up completely and got out of that friend group. So it's cool to kind of embrace that. I dig it. I agree. Good work.

Thanks. We are pushing 830, and it sounds like we still have a lot to talk about. We might have to move into some games and rebook Brian. To be honest with you. Or, you know, everyone that's at Lyft,

live easy this summer. Brian will be there, ask him all the questions that we didn't. didn't get a chance to ask him this week. Yeah, I've got a lot I want to get on to, but I also have to get up at 430, so. All right. No offense, Brian.

You're so interesting, I have to push this a lot. Where the hell is my FMK? There is, okay. Understood. Brian, are you familiar with Fuck Mary Kill and how to play it? Yeah, I'm familiar with it. All right, easy game, easy game. So, got some Louisiana things here.

We'll try to, you didn't, I didn't really have a ton of suggestion, so I broke Nate's heart. I already had your, uh, your questionnaire in chat, chat, GBT or Gemini. And I was like, hey, what's a good FMK? And it shot this out. I was like, oh, I'll run with that. So, like, gas station delicacies.

So like, just that whole thing. Like, because I saw you, you're, you're a gas station food connoisseur, it seems like. Yeah, for sure. Someone said, okay. So basically, it says the seafood boil, but I guess I would go anything seafood, Louisiana related, and however you want to break that down. And then, uh, sweet treats, sweet treats, maybe specific. to whatever is Louisiana sweet treat.

Yeah, okay. So I'm going to read into sweet treats, something like Beny's, maybe Proline's. That's going to be a fuck. You know, you don't want to have those all the time. It's,

you know, it's not good for your teeth, that kind of thing. But, man, when it hits the spot, it's perfect. You'll have to bring some of those because already you just said,

I don't, I didn't, I have no clue. What are the words you spoke about it being a sweet treat? I don't know what that is. You might have to, you know, bring a backpack full of those.

up to the third live easy and we can have scotch ruse and whatever the words you just spoke were yeah I'll see if I can if I can find some locally otherwise I'll have to learn how to make them

Benets are just it's kind of fried dough oh I do like a fried dough it's just French for donut yeah they're just that's what people say it's just French donuts yep

sounds good like with powdered sugar so exactly like if you had a funnel cake that was in one blob mm-hmm It sounds not horrible. I would marry seafood boil.

So I prefer blue crabs and like Gulf shrimp. I'm not crazy about crawfish. Bugs? Yeah, bugs, exactly. We've talked about this. I would say that's the more sustainable thing. That's a normal meal. Not here because it's too expensive here.

I'm too far away from the coast. But back home, these are very affordable foods. You could buy shrimp. It's not going to cost you a ton of money. That's just normal food to me. That's a merry. Now, what was the third thing? It was gas station delicacies.

Oh, my God. I fucked up. So I'm going to have to kill the gas station delicacies. But you're mad about it? I'm mad about it, yeah. So there are some kinds of foods, like fried chicken. This isn't particular to Louisiana, but like originally fried chicken. In Louisiana, it would be something like butan, which is a kind of sausage stuffed with rice and spice pork,

would be traditionally found at gas stations. Also, lots of seafoods, like they might have a seafood market in gas stations in southeast Louisiana. You want to go buy 50 pounds of shrimp, you would buy it there. Yeah, we don't have good gas stations in New York. Well, I'm going to have to kill it, unfortunately. Nice. I do like that once you've remembered what it was, you were all upset. God damn it.

I guess we did a good job picking the three. All right. What you got from Rushmore, Joey? Yeah, Mount Rushmore. New Orleans Bounce Classics. So I'm going to go with Big Frida, gin in my system. Okay. How did that one go? Oh, man. There's no way I could sing it. It's about how they've got that gin in their system and somebody's going to be their victim.

Oh, yeah. Okay. That's basically the words. Let's see. DJ Jubilee, what's the name of your school? Which is, so these are all related musically, but it's just a song about local high schools. My school's in there towards the end, and it's just, I guess, school pride. That's a bounce classic.

Everybody in New Orleans would know that song, at least of a certain age. Okay. I'm going to go with another, it's a DJ Jubilee and Partners in Crime. They're both on this song. It's called N.O. Block Party. It's another big classic. It's just a bunch of call and response and dances. And this is another thing.

Everybody probably older than like 30 would know that all of these dances, this whole song, all the words, that kind of thing. Okay. And, oh, okay, I'm going to say, Fifth Ward Weeby, let me find out. It's just a song about, he's just talking shit about, I guess, an ex-girlfriend or something like that, just picking on or just all these things that are wrong with you, the guy that you're dating, your kids, all this stuff, you're just terrible. It's one of those songs. It's very fun.

It doesn't sound fun, but it is. It does not, but I'm sure it is. Wouldn't be a bounce classic if it wasn't fun, right? Right. Okay. All right, all right, all right. We talked about you being Cajun slash Kedian, talked about Katrina. Wow.

I think it's time for affiliates. Move on to unpaid and underrated. All right. Was there anything embarrassing or funny? That was the only one I didn't get a chance to glance through. No, he wants to go to grad school, but, like, you're already going to gradswether aren't you? So you're appearing for your third, you know, act of your career?

Or is this going to segue into what you're already doing? So, yeah, it's going to segue into what I'm already doing. As of August, I'm going to be a grad student, probably one of the older ones, I guess. How are you? Just for the listeners? So I'm 39. I'm going to turn 40, 10 days after, or somewhat after Liftar Live Easy. gotcha.

Just missed Masters. It just missed. Some Masters. I think they took away. Without looking at iron lifting chaos, I think they took a lot of the different categories away, just to make it less trophies. Oh, how dare they?

The point of power lifting is trophies, damn it. Exactly. Yeah, this will be a related field to what I'm doing now. I want to add one of my my professors tell me that friends don't let friends go to grad school. A lot of people have told me that too. Hopefully it's being paid for. Yeah, you'll do great.

I know. Good deal. All right. Yeah, we get some affiliates. Barbell rescue, Home Gymcon, and apparel from the Strength Co.

Barbo Rescue, clean up those bars for you. Home JimCon, we literally talk about it every week. I fully expect there to be, you know, if there's not 100 crew, there should be at least 75 or 50.

There's some amount of number. There will be a number of crew. Yeah, there will be people, and they will be crew. Yes. There'll be a lot that aren't, but there'll be a lot that are. So, and then a pair off from the Stranco, go use code unpaid at all those locations, save yourself a little bit of money. My favorite thing about Home JimCon is there will be a lot that aren't crew and a lot that are, but a lot of those ones that aren't probably will be soon. Once they meet those handsome devils behind Jim Radar.

Whoever they are. We need to get an affiliate for Jim Radar. I don't know that our code would do any good for us. so funny. But like, I think I might, I think the third. We can just do that. Like,

we can just start saying, use code unpaid at Jim Radar. I think I'm, because I think I'm gonna, I think I'm gonna pull with Strength Co. Because no one uses it and put Jim Radar in there.

And actually like put that in the dock and just make that thing. That would be very funny. Just start saying, use code unpaid at Jim Radar. And then people will start going, where do I put the code? Where do I put the code?

Or I could say, comment code unpaid on somewhere on Jim radar. Yeah. Something like that. It's just to, I think we're going to do that. If we don't do that next week, someone DM me and remind me that we talked about it and I forgot to do it.

All right, big Brian, explain to your friends and family in Germany how we play unpaid or underrated. So, unpaid and underrated, you're going to give me some topics, and I'm going to decide if they're unpaid, which means they suck, because it sucks to not be paid, or if they're underrated, which is, you know, I feel like they probably should get more appreciation. Works for me. That's how I'd play it. unpaid or underrated painting murals painting murals I would say that's underrated

we hear you've done that a time or two yeah so I've actually painted a mural on each boy's bedroom wall so this we've moved to this house about three years ago yeah and in the last house I painted a mural on both boys' walls

Frederick's was Spaceships and like aliens and then Oscars was Hot Air balloons and then we moved I got really sad about leaving that artwork behind so I painted new ones

with the boys since they're much older and Fredericks and Oscars both have dinosaurs in them Yeah underrated for sure It's a lot of fun if you like to paint anyway I love to paint. Do you freehand at all or are you like out there

were stencils and like drawing it with like a template of some sort and then kind of I'm just curious of how you you know the scale of cucumbers how much of the wall was a mural you're looking at about 10 cucumbers wide maybe about four high for Frederick's room it's an anchylosaurus so it's a very long and short dinosaur and and for the first time and in the old house so in both cases I I started out with a sketch, and in the first house, I free-handed it onto the wall and tried to scale it up as best I could. And in this house, I used a projector to project the sketch that I traced onto a transparency onto the wall. That way, I could mark some features and then paint it for it. Nice.

Very neat. All right. Unpaid or underrated, the operating system Linux. Well, I would say Linux is underrated. I would have to say Linux is not an operating system. It's a kernel. Is that call it all or kernel? This is basically a copy pasta.

Don't worry about it. Linux is the name of the kernel, and I forget the rest of the copy pasta, so I'm going to stop. Linux is an operating system that I think is underrated. I'm a big fan of free software, things like Linux, Unix, the historical operating system,

and the current one. I really into that. Sorry, we got to drop real quick. A lot of times my show note consumption is just copy it into an app that it will talk for me and like, so I can listen to it why I drive. And the word unix,

what was the one you just said? Yeah, Unix. But the way it said it on the, when it was spit it back out, I mean, I guess it's the same way. I'm just like,

why are they talking about guys with no dicks? Like, I'm so confused of like how it went from talking about a computer program to a unic and not, I've never thought about that. with that it was another operating system. So like the confusion while I was driving

and listening to that, it was so vast that I was just like, huh, that stopped me for a minute. I've never thought about that, but it is probably one of the least sexy interests that you can have. It's a match made in heaven, I suppose. Yeah, Linux is underrated.

I think it's not necessarily something that the normal person can get a lot of use of if they're into really specific software or anything like that. But I think it's really cool to have an alternative operating system to Windows and even to OSX,

which is a Unix operating system as well. Yeah, I think it's underrated. I think it's a lot of fun to poke around. It's so funny because I think the first time I ever used Linux, I'm going back 25 years ago. Like Linux is not new.

But it was prompt based. And that really tickled my brain because, you know, I was learning code at the time and I'm talking HTML code. And you're just like, you literally had to type, like run on everything you did. It was phenomenal. I'm assuming it's obviously gone graphic interface

at this point. Yes. So it can. So I use Linux for work a lot with those computational analyses. We've got what's called a high-performance computer that I can log into, and everything is through command line with that. I schedule jobs for and I use it for all the statistical stuff that I do, just because it takes so long on a local machine.

But that's all command line-based, but you can have a graphical interface, even on that. but my laptop is running a Linux operating system. It's all graphical. Okay. Yeah. So, yeah. Way back when I first experienced Linux, it was not graphic.

It was completely command of prompt. Sorry, Keith. Go ahead. You're good. Unpaid or underrated DFW drivers. They're overrated. So I can't claim that they're worse than drivers are where I grew up. but I hate them and I don't like the way that they drive

and I don't like when people drive poorly, poorly, poorly where I'm from. When you say overrated, do you mean unpaid? Yes, I don't even know what that word means. Yeah, I know that was such a weird language. I was always talking different words and stuff. I was like, what does that mean?

Oh, geez. Yeah, I don't know what came over. You're ruined our brand mark our marketability. I didn't mean to speak a foreign language. Now I can't cut this for a YouTube video that I won't ever do. Shents. I'm really sorry, guys. It's all right.

I just happen to catch it. I don't normally catch that. I was just like... That's something a unit would say. He said, what is that word? The static is all I'm here. I did like that we... I think I forgot that we didn't start with that.

Like, it evolved like an episode like 16 or something. It was Melissa. Yeah, I know. Melissa actually coined it herself. Which is, so that would have been like four, like, I don't know, like three, four months in. Like, that's wild. I feel like it's been something that we created since day one, but apparently we didn't. But we did run with it.

I'm pretty happy with it. Show did. My turn? Yeah, I cherry picked a bunch from up top, so you got a nice list at the bottom. I know. I created that list, painstakingly. And I didn't use a single one of them. I know.

I had to eliminate some. We missed so much other shit that I don't know. No, and we kept talking about the stuff I put in the list, so I had to go through and be like, not that one, not that one. It's always a struggle. How did you do in the last ones? Unpaid and underrated on how many? I went P.

Two, one. Two one paid. He went underrated, underrated, underrated. O unpaid. O unpaid. One unpaid. Okay. Unpaid or underrated, chocolate mint.

That's unpaid. It's disgusting. That's all I have to say about it. I don't like it. Nobody else should. You just say I'm paid and underrated. Just failed. Sorry.

Just failed. I don't want to eat a chocolate donut why I'm brushing my teeth. Wrong. That's exactly. Chocolate toothpaste. Wait, have you guys tried other toothpaste? You know they make toothpaste in like fun flavors, right? Well, that's my joke when anyone talks about eating mint.

I can tolerate it to an extent, but I don't, it would not be on my top. It would definitely not be in the top 50%, as we like to say. The top half. The top half. I love that. The episode title is something, something about the top half or the bottom half. Or cucumbers. Unpaid or underrated, Popeyes, Louisiana chicken.

I'm going to say, ah, I used to think it was pretty good. A lot of chicken restaurants now, chicken seems like it's lower quality than it was. I don't know if I'm imagining this. We used to be a proper freaking country where chicken was good chicken. Yep. So Popeyes and there's like the dichotomy between Popeyes and Church's chicken. I was always a Popeye's guy. I have been to churches three times and I've hated every single experience.

Oh, man. Yeah, I was always a Popeye's fan over churches. And it's not like it was dramatically worse or anything. It was just a preference. And now, you know, anytime I get anything from Popeyes, it just seems so much worse than it used to. So I would have to say that it's unpaid, unfortunately. No, I'm with you.

Next time you're up here in Canada, make sure you go to Mary Browns. I'll do that. Yeah, they started out in the East Coast, maybe a little bit from the Acadian side there. I think they might actually be from Newfoundland. I'm not sure, but I know they're from the East Coast, and they made their way across Canada. That's the best fried chicken in Canada is Mary Browns. I think we'll start planning a trip sometime in the next couple of years. Well, if you happen to be in Toronto, I know a couple people in the area.

Actually, Will Chow was just in Toronto. Didn't even message me. Wow. He just posted a story and he's like, oh, I'm in Toronto and I'm like, bro. And he's like, oh, yeah, we're leaving tomorrow. And I'm like, dude, a little heads up. I did nothing all day yesterday. I was looking for stuff to do.

Yeah. Was that thing we talked about called the Causeway that we've talked about multiple times in Toronto? The pathway. I know there was some kind of way that was. like a road with another road. Yeah, but he said it was just his first time traveling with the kid and he didn't want to make, he wanted to make sure everything was like, I get that. But next time, you're in Toronto or any of the surrounding areas. Make sure you let me know. Unpaid or underrated, group text. Group texts. Ah. You know, I, I'm in a lot of group chats. Uh,

I'm in a lot of, I assume. Yeah, I guess. So I'm in, I'm in, I'm in one with, my family, my immediate family. I'm in another five or six with different permutations of the same people, which I don't really like so much. Same thing with my friend groups. We've got probably five different group chats where one person will be different,

and we might get a text in this one like once every six months. That said, I think they're underrated. That's where all the good stuff that you're talking about happens. It's a lot like Discord. where you break off into little groups and you start talking about... Yeah.

You're going to talk about Warhammer or whatever kind of nerdy stuff you're into off on your own. That warrants it's on channel. And I feel the same way about group chats. I think that there's like 50% of the group chats I'm in. The top half.

The top half of the group chats I've been in are against my will. And that's that's mostly work related, I think. But then, like, the personal ones have all been, like, I started most of them. So, like, I see

which... I'm in. Okay. All right. I have one more. Two more. Two more. We got to go to bed. Two more. You got to go to bed. Unpaid or underrated.

San, Nalins. Man, this is another one. That's... The state of Louisiana's tourist board is inflicted upon us. So just like how Cajun has become a spice and not an ethnic group. New Orleans is one of those things that they, and they definitely did it because I've seen the commercials when I was younger.

Norlands, you've got people from all around the world thinking that that's how people say, New Orleans. You know, you've got New Orleans, which is just a regional difference. That's not really, that's not greeting to my ears. In fact, we say we don't have counties, we have parishes. The parish is called Orleans Parish, so I couldn't even be mad about that. Nalins, it's just completely fabricated. It grates on my ears. That is unpaid.

The entire state only has parishes, or just certain parts don't have counties and has parishes? Like, is there a single county in the state of Louisiana? No, you can just one for one replace one word with the other one in your mind. So we've got parishes, how other states have counties. I won't do the last one, actually. I think the Nalian's ones was... Good. End on a good note.

Yeah, my pinnacle. All right. I think he passed. What do you think? I don't know. The chocolate mint thing still rubbed me the wrong way. Disgusting. I'm standing on this one.

It's gross. I'll shake your hand over that one. He'll shake your cucumber over that one. Yeah. There is nothing worse than a soggy cucumber, though. Like, when they get, when they get like that, borderline rot.

It's just like, god damn. Just talk nice to him first and it won't be soggy. He'll firm up a little bit. Pickle it at the base. Whisper it, whisper in its ear. Do it, do it,

Garrett did and just fucking deep throat it. Oh, just shove it right. God, this fucking guy. It's a penis. He's going to be someone's daughter. We're talking about penises.

Yeah. What? All right. Big Brian, we heard a rumor you might have had some stuff for us. Yeah. So my wife wanted me to ask you, Keith,

what is your favorite Wegman sub. What is the name? The Uncle Louis. So it's what is it? It's ham turkey and maybe just ham and turkey.

Is it ham and turkey? It might be something else too. But I think it's mostly ham and turkey. I think it's just ham and turkey. But yeah, that's my Wegman's go-to. Wegman's just a big grocery shore chain that's I think it's taken over most of the East Coast now.

She loves the place. Yeah, it is. I probably give the bottom half my paycheck to Wegman's every year. That's the biggest half. They get so much of my fucking life. It's, it's, it is atrocious how much the bill is when we check out. And it's just like, really?

I have like a cart and it's like $400. What the fuck? But that's just, I think that's, that's anywhere now. But, but. But yeah, Wegmans is good. I think the, I, we don't do the subs there very often, but, uh, Uncle Louie is the one I would, unless I, we have DeBellas too, which is annoying because I get, I get DeBellas and Wegman's subs names mixed up because they're the same, literally the same.

I think like Wegmans bought the ability to make DeBella's subs. So I don't know. But yeah. I wrote down Uncle Louis. I'm going to look into that next time. Good deal. Joey, so unpaid or underrated, what's it like actually being somewhat of an influencer for a niche group of podcast listening dorks?

first of all, how dare you? It's very interesting. I'll be honest with you. Because I do have imposter syndrome about the whole thing. I don't think I deserve follows. I don't think I deserve the comments. I don't think I deserve the praise. I posted video last week of me trying 495 pounds.

Like literally the first time I've held it in my hands. But I also understand that sometimes weightlifting is mental. And that was what I was doing is I remember Scott Dodds. I'm going to tell this story. This is going to turn into a bit of a personal story. Telling me is 500 pounds close. And I said to him, never. Never.

I'm never going to lift 500 pounds. It's not going to have. And then I did the 405 at Cam's house two weeks ago, and that flew up to the point that I was like, I didn't even struggle with 405 pounds. What can I do with 495? So I had to go and lift that weight, or try, not lift, but like put it in my hands because I've been so afraid of 495. It moved an inch. Like, it was not an impressive lift. It was not anything that, like, anybody should celebrate.

But it has over a thousand fucking views. And it has 20-something comments of people going, it's on its way, man, you got this. Like, I can tell it's there. I can tell it's there. So, like, it's a little bit of, I don't think I deserve this, but I do appreciate it. Does that make sense?

I also am never going to be the influencer. I hate. I'm never going to be the do you know who I think I am type of person. I'm never going to be that person. I'm going to laugh every single time I get anything out of it. There is going to be a thing coming. Keith and I have talked about it. I want to thank Karp for helping push that through the door.

But I am actually going to get gym equipment to review for the first time ever. I don't think I deserve it. I genuinely don't. But at the same time, I'm going to take it. I'm going to be honest and unbiased, as we always. are. So, like, it is a give or take thing. I think the anti-influencer influencer is kind of, I know Mike Van Wick kind of coined it, but I do think that's where I really went, is that I'm not going to be that person. I'm never going to take my shirt off and walk through the grocery store

telling you what foods are ruining your test. I'm never going to be that fucking loser. Like, oh, today I saw a thing. This was, this was so perfect that you brought this up. This was my favorite thing. If you think a single meal is going to ruin your progress, you are not high performance. You are high maintenance. And this guy that said this, I have no clue who this guy is. And I was like, you just said everything I've ever thought. And that's why I hate influencers, right?

It's this little idea that if you touch this receipt, you're going to ruin your entire endocrine system. Then you're sick. Like, you're a sick human being. So this is why I hate influencers in general. is they rely on this fear-mongering single-line BS. I appreciate all the followers I get. I appreciate everything I do, but I'm never going to change what I do.

It's going to be selfies. It's going to be lifting videos. And now we might do some equipment review. I get that. I feel like a lot of influencer culture is predatory on insecurity and ignorance. And, you know, I don't think they're necessarily bad.

people. But I think what you guys are doing, you're more of a touchstone that a relatively small group of people has in common with normal guy, healthy opinions about things. And, you know, you may not be experts on anything in particular, but... Who said I wasn't an expert on nothing? Yeah, it's fair. You're not experts, right? Isn't that the... Brother, we're not professionals. that's fair with that something we probably know and i don't think i've ever claimed to be an expert on anything right i think if like if there was one thing let's say there is one thing in

the world that i think i could teach other people it's how to deadlift right like i'm very close to deadlifting over three times my own body i think that maybe if you wanted to learn how to deadlift you might want to talk to me about what you're doing and how we can do it together an expert though like I'm not a coach I'm not gonna help you track your macros and shit but I'm gonna help hype you up and I'm gonna show you where to plant your feet and put your hands and stuff like that but no I don't I don't think me and Keith have ever claimed Keith might a little more than me have opinions I do go hardcore in my need yeah he might have more opinions than I do but like at the me I know I'm genuinely here to look stupid oh yeah

that's the other one I wanted to say, Keith, you might like this. We were talking about stone lifting in my stone lifting group. And the one guy was trying hook grip for the first time. So he had the Denny stones. Oh, and Danny, I was like, what the fuck. You know, how are you in? Yeah. So he was trying hook grip on the dinnies.

And he was like, 45 pounds is fine. But once I get to 100, it hurts. And I said, well, I overhand gripped 250 per hand. and it was fine. And Rebecca, who hosts the Stone Table podcast, she was like, Joey, shut up. She's like, you can't get away with that. And I said, and I think I might make this one of my mottos,

I'm not stronger than anybody. I'm just stupider. Like, I think that might become my gym motto is I don't think I'm stronger than anybody. anything I've done that you would seem is beyond what I can do. It's only because I tried because I'm stupid. Nice. I did a little stone lifting at the gym this weekend.

The natural stones in the fucking rain too, which sucked. Yep. But they weren't, it was kind of disappointing too because like what the weight was listed on one of them. I think it was a 165 and a 175. And then I think the owner of the gym DMA, he was like, oh yeah, that one broke. It's only 135 now or something.

I was like, fuck. It's like nonetheless is still, It's cool. And I think I shouldered like a like a 120 a couple times. Not that that's like any, I mean, if we have to do, if we have to do, if we have to do any of the stone events as the rocks events, these weights aren't going to be what I have to do. But it was just kind of easing into it and just doing what the other guys were doing at the gym that day. Oh, I got two rocks in my driveway. You want to come practice.

One is 106 pounds. I think one's closer to 190, maybe 99 pounds. I got you. It did get me a little like, okay. I periodically do look on marketplace. I'm just waiting for that like perfect like deal. There is no perfect deal. That's five minutes away.

I don't want to steal. Drive down the uninhabited roads. Go find a rock that looks like you want to pick it up. I'm telling you, man. That's the feeling. That's the stone lifter feeling of a good marketplace find. Is you just are driving and you look at the side of the road and it's not on somebody's property and you go, I could pick that up and you throw your trunk and take it home. That could be your rock.

It would be a lot easier to get away with that than having an Atlas stone like in the side of the side of the house. The wife wouldn't be okay with that. But a natural stone, like, oh, that's just landscaping. It's a landscaping stone that I sometimes pick up and put down. Yeah, yeah. Good question. Sorry, I went off on that.

I am so sorry. Oh, perfect. If it's okay, I've got one more question for the two of you. Mm-hmm. What is one thing about your co-host that you most, appreciate, not necessarily specific to podcasting, but just in general. And then a follow-up question, in what way do you think your co-host best complements you with podcasting?

Keith, what do you like about me? Yeah, we are, I'll just kind of, like, we compliment each other well enough to where no one wants to listen to an episode with two joys, and no one wants to listen to an episode, episode of two Keith's, like for the most part. Like, he's a little wild. I'm a little anal, stern, obsessive. Like, so it's just a good compliment. I just, I think most things that are successful, I don't know, like, you can't have the same person twice. I just don't see that that's being, which, but then again, like, Tanner and Tommy are, well, no, because they're even different enough because time is a lot more soft spoken.

So, like, they're, they're probably more compatible just because they live. So they live, you know, they grew up in the same area, but, but they are similar. Within a fucking two hour drive, I'm sure. So like, honestly, I think one of my favorite examples of the difference between Tanner and Tommy is Tanner saying, I'm as straight as they come. And Tommy going, because that's what straight guys need to say. And it's, it's not about being different or the same. it's about checks and balances. Right?

It's about the, I might say something so stupid that Keith will be like, nope, like that's not a thing. And then I, like, I will completely,

like, okay, yeah, and Keith will do the same thing with me. Like, we play off each other. He's right. We are different in certain areas.

Like, I'm very feral. I'm a very feral. Out, outroverted introvert. That's a phrase, right? where like, you know, I'll talk to you for an hour, but you don't know a single thing about my personal life.

And I will do that on purpose. And Keith is very kind of introverted, where, you know, he will talk to you for an hour, but you will only know about his personal life. Like, it's things like that that like... That's a very good description. I'll give you my address until you're going to come live with me four minutes after meeting you,

but like, I don't want a small talk as much as I... Exactly. They used to call us, we had an odd couple thing, but then I think I realized it was more fun. that if I played off of it and that I tried to make Keith laugh rather than ruin his laugh I think that that was a little interesting turn

I took probably about 50 to 60 episodes ago Back in the bottom half Yeah, back in the bottom half One of my favorite things about Keith, of course, is his determination to make this work. Okay? Even to the point where he stresses himself out

when he doesn't need to. Okay? And Keith's probably least favorite but most relied upon part about me is it will work out. He hates when I say everything will be fine.

I've never wanted to reach through a phone and punch someone on the face more than when you say that. And you say it now because you know that's my reaction. But what you don't know is you're like, this guy's not answering me and this guy's not answering me. And I'm also DMing that person bugging them. Right?

And I'm just telling you, it'll be fine, man. So you're stressing, and I'm not stressing, but I'm also doing the work with you. And I think that that's kind of where we work the best is you might be freaking out over something and I won't even tell you I'm helping. But I am, like I was, what you don't know, Brian, when did I message you today?

Uh, maybe. A few hours ago. Yep. So it's a new thing I do where I now message everybody to when I remember I can. That's good because we've had guests on that you didn't follow on Instagram before. Yes. That's fair. And now I message them and be like, hey, are you ready for tonight?

Do you have any questions? Perfect. And I've been doing that now for anybody that I don't have a lot of chat with, right? I didn't do that obviously with Cam because I know whatever, right? But like I've been doing that. You don't know I'm doing that. but it is me feeding off of your like you're clearly anxious you know and I'm just like it'll be fine but I'm making sure it's fine I would say I have like osmosis to some of your free spirit to where I

do care significantly less about the schedule I mean obviously I'm still like at a at a like the I'm the top half above you where your level of caring is but it's like it is a it is the bottom half of what it used to be. Like I used to like get fucking like, I don't get ulcers, but like this used to be so, oh my God, someone canceled. And now it's like, I don't fucking care. We'll just get on and talk for an hour if we have to ask the episode. Yeah.

It's not, again, it's not that I don't care, Keith. Two, three years ago, I would care less. Yeah, it's not that I don't care. It's that. It's that. I had the episode filled in like an hour. It's not that I don't care. I want to make sure that that's very clear.

It's that I know it'll be fine either way. Yeah. If Brian was like. like, oh, I can't make it. Half an hour before, I'd be like, well, we got an hour to fail. Let's go. Like, we would just do it. But I guess that's confidence in me and you.

It's hard to like, when 90, well, granted, we talk for fucking three hours once a week. But when like all or other interactions are only text, it's kind of like, wait, is he not care? Is he being lazy? Is he busy? Like, I'm like the same way. Like, I won't respond to you and Nate sometimes for like two days. And then I'll, like, kind of catch up on shit. So it's like, I feel like we've, we've grown and more.

into a good working relationship to get this done. And it's just, I don't know, we're here. If we didn't have all the support we had through the crew, if we didn't have Nate, like this, like we're like, I wouldn't say we're like one straw from this not being here. But like we would, if one of the three pillar fours that keep us up here,

um, went away like someone in the crew would really have to step up to help. Yeah. Neither of us really have the, I, I can't give this any more than I do. kind of thing. Like,

yeah. And I get the like there's, maybe I don't do it a lot. I mean, you know, what's like, I don't know, man,

it's a lot sometimes. It's just overwhelming and it's not overwhelming, but it's like, I can't do that to my wife to where I'm spending an extra hour on my phone a week to then produce it or to do something else or to put more into the social media than I already do in free time. So like, I think, I hope people enjoy this and realize that it doesn't just happen easily.

And like there's other podcasts out there now that like, they are very much more free-spirited and just kind of get on there and rip for an hour and a half and then just produce it the same second without editing and stuff. I'm like, that's great for them. I'm like our product too, but ours takes a little more umph. Yeah. And those ones do kind of suck. I don't know. I like theirs.

It depends. I don't know who you're talking about. Oh, no. You just said that Waffle Irons podcast sucks. Oh, no. No, that's not what I meant about. I thought you were talking. I was specifically talking about crew.

Yes. Oh, I thought you were talking about somebody else. Other podcasts that do just like, yeah, yeah. Like, well, that's kind of what. I'm not going to name names. You go ahead name names. I thought you were talking about somebody else who says a lot of really offensive shit and just doesn't like check themselves at all.

And I, like, I saw a clip from them today and I was just like, you put that out in the world? Like, that was okay for you? But anyway, no, I was not talking about how to pick that all. but I was just Our cousin podcast Are they? Drunk uncle

Podcasts Yeah Were there are their nephew I suppose Or niece depending on Oh geez no no no no Sorry Steve Sorry Jen scans

All the people involved That's I do like the episodes Where it's the homies I did not think that's what he was talking about No no no no I think I yeah no I've listened to so much less podcast The last six months or so

I've been trying to I've been trying to like fine tune into two or three podcasts that I regularly listen to and then more books, man. I just, I listen to people shoot the shit too much that I'd rather listen to a story and to kind of just be engulfed in that and watch a movie in my head while I'm driving rather than just listen to people bitch about shit. I know we didn't really answer your question great, but I don't know. We talked about our podcast.

Unpaid. That was perfect. I feel like we can all see the effort that you guys put in and I just wanted to ask you guys that question for myself. So someone that's still got the 20 episodes left, how did your consumption? Did you like start with the new ones and then go back and cherry pick? Or like, like, what is your, what was your journey like to get there in the last six months to a year or so since you've been listening? Yeah. So I started with whatever was current and I've been keeping up with those for the most part. Were you listening by Crew Falls when we,

so when I met you at Crew Falls, were you already listening? Oh, yeah, yeah. So I was, I was, like, bouncing off of who was saying in the Discord that they were going to be going to Crew Falls. And, you know, like you guys say, pick those people out. Oh, yeah. Learn some more about them. That's why we're here. And then maybe I would pick out some of the earlier ones. So I might not chat with those people quite as much.

But, you know, a lot of them are people who are in the Discord all the time. They're people who are in some of the earlier episodes of even the Massonomics podcast. There are people have heard of. And I just felt like I should at least learn something. about them. Have you, so you, most, so yeah,

you definitely, well, so you got what, you got like five weeks or something to get the rest of them knocked out because it would be a real horse's ass not to listen to a lot of the OGs that are going to be a Lift Hardly of Easy's episodes.

Definitely. So you can kind of share, check out the rosters because Tanner posted the link to the, the power lifting who was signed up, and then Jake has all the, the strong man stuff. So you kind of can know exactly who's going to be there. Who's not,

a lot of familiar faces won't be there this year. It's kind of sad, but I kind of, is what it is. It's like people that have been there, you know, one or two times or even all four, three times so far. It is a expensive trip to keep coming back to. It's very much awesome and fun to do, but there might be a time where I can't do three over $2,000 trips a year. I just don't, well, I don't think I can do that every year. So I keep saying that and then I still end up doing everything every year, but it's one of these days, the other shoe will drop and financially it's just

going to be like, I don't know if I can make it. It's a hard place to get to. fucking I right it is I wish Sue Paul is so much easier Yeah that's why I think that's part of the reason Like I always Like when I say I love crew fall so much

I don't mean it necessarily I sound like I'm shitting on Lips Hardley Easy But like part of it kind of is I guess Because it's such a harder place to get to It's less Personable Kind of because It's 150 people

Not 50 people So it's just like I don't know At least for me I just have like This is like slight level of anxiety the whole weekend rather than like that's because you're competing and you're in competition keith well there's that too yeah which we'll see if it's we'll see how it is this year with the

strong man being a different day than the day that i'm just going to be oh yeah that's an interesting dynamic yeah what am i going to be but i don't want to say they want to be like a drunk asshole at noon either so it's kind of like the rest of us do it yeah we'll see why not this will be an interesting year i'm excited though it's have to keep it together for the meat yeah you can't keep your shoulder together yeah oh man all right anything else you got

rapid fire final question or anything or we good maybe a couple of really quick ones so Joey I think everybody understands that dead lifts are for doing until you die what are some other things that you could do until you die

uh Viking press um love Viking press stone lifting for sure drinking. Oh, I know. Which we might do.

Might drink till I die. No, that one. Definitely a leg extent until you die. Yep. Yeah, just anything that builds a functional strength. My wife could do that until I die. I still, we're not editing out that part about her feet either. I love my wife.

Big wife guys. Big wife guys. I don't know. That's such a weird generic question because there's a lot of things that I really enjoy doing and wouldn't give up. All your answers could possibly be wrong though

because the way he said it was up until you die. So like I guess I'm gonna, if I was to answer it my way, it'd be like, what can you do as a 100 year old person that's like barely functional? Deadless. Oh, okay, is that what you meant? Like right until the last days of my life?

Oh, maybe I interpreted it wrong. I could breathe until I die. Like if that's the last thing I ever do, it'll be breathed. That's definitely true. No. So, yeah, deadlift for sure, but, you know, Viking glass,

overhead press. Oh, we definitely interpreted it. Lifting up rocks. I'll never stop lifting up rocks. It is one of those fun things that you just kind of like, I'm going to pick that up. And that's it.

Like, it's just, it's probably again, the autistic version of me. I'm going to see that over there. I'm going to pick that up. And people are like, why? And I'm like, because I got it. You can't explain it. I just have to.

Look at it. Look at that thing. And my kids are the same way, too. They're like, we want to look for bugs. And I'm like, well, I'm going to teach you how to pick that rock up then. Oh, yeah. I got a quick thing. Kind of a call back to the half-bake thoughts.

So I've got to send out a thank you to that episode a few weeks ago. I think it was Dylan was talking about an advantage. to, or a way to get a slight advantage on grip for deadlift is he'll wear wrist straps. And I've never thought about that. And I was like, well, I haven't really had a grip issue. And now I pull hook grips. It doesn't matter. So I've been farmer holding and farmer carrying the last couple months, training for Lift or Live Easy. And I had some tendonitis this week a little bit. And it was really hard for my right hand to stay gripped on the farmers. So it was like literally like I was doing like comp wait for like a 15 to 30 second hold.

And I could barely get like 10 seconds. And then I even had to go up after. that. And I remembered what he had heard on the podcast. And it's like, where wrist straps, your hand won't open up as much. It was like, okay, let me try it. Put wrist straps on. We did like 30 pounds more a hand and then held it for like the same time or better than what I did at the lighter way. And I was like, okay, cool. Interesting. Like that was a, and it's just something I had never clicked. So like now when I see people wearing wrist straps on dead lifts, I kind of be like, oh, I know why they're doing that because that's, you're going to get like one percent, maybe five percent better grip in that hand that wants to open up. And I like didn't, I wouldn't say I thought it was bullshit, but I like,

I had no correlation to it being a real thing. And then I implemented it. And I was like, damn, my hand didn't open up that time. I'm so happy right now. Anything else? Or was that the last one? Yeah, I might have stole your last question by rambling. It's okay.

No, I don't think I have any more good fast ones. Got a lot of, ugh, these aren't going to work. No, you can ask us in Discord, I guess. Actually, that's a cool thing. If someone who's run out of time on stuff, just take it. into the Discord. Wait till this drops next week and then pose some questions to us. Do like, you don't even have to, like, I wouldn't do them all at once, but like literally like you could spread it out over a couple days and be like, tag Keith and Joey and this is your question. Actually, even better than that.

Well, tag Nate, right? Yeah, tag Nate. Even better than that, what we should do then as once we know this is happening on unpaid and underrated, we can go ahead and get those messages sent to us and record video answers. Yeah, you could do that too. Q&A. That's actually better, yeah, because that's easy enough to, yeah, because we both have access to it. So it's easy enough to just respond with that. Just throw it in the stories. If you see one, hey, Joey, this one's for you.

Go log in, yep. All right, where do they find you at? You can find me on Discord at Big Brian, No Relation, and on Instagram at herbal snails and probably other places, too. We spell that because you're saying herbal, when I think you're trying to say herbal. And I don't think people are going to hear it. Well, spell it because people fucking aren't going to type in just E. Jesus Christ. So it's spell or not.

Hold on. Hold on. I have a really funny story, like, for 30 seconds here. It's New Year's Day and me and a bunch of my friends decide we're going to go out for breakfast. Okay. And we go to the place that we always go is called the French. And they do French breakfast and French stuff. And they happen to be open.

And we did this thing where it's like, I think this was the second year where we all just meet up and then we go in a pub crawl. This was of course pre-kids and stuff like that. And the server is telling us

that they have an urban cheese bagel with salmon and all that. You heard urban and she meant So apparently I looked at my friend

and went through the myriad of emotion of trying to figure out what urban cheese was. Like what is urban cheese. Does it come from the inner city? Does it come from rats? Oh, no, it's herb and cheese, and I'm an idiot. And I did all of that in my facial expressions. Herbs and or what's herbin? Yeah, yeah. Herbs and cheese. Okay, yeah, yeah. That's what I thought. Was urban cheese. So we actually

called the pub crawl the urban cheese pub crawl for the next three years. I mean, we are, and that's, that that takes us back to probably two years ago that we are the number one urban. podcast. Yes, we are. But yeah, if you don't get that, you haven't consumed the backlog. He was sitting right across from me and watched my facial expressions go from what? Oh, and all he said was, you're an idiot.

And I went, yeah. And then we had to explain to the whole table what my thought process was. All right. So anyway, herbal snails. Did you get that full plug in with spelling, Brian? No, that's herbal H-E-R-B-A-L-S S-N-A-I-L-S.

Not herbal snails. Not herbal's nails. Not herbal's nails. Urban snails. Joey underscore Malesco, Emily says at K-O. Find me at the DILF Dungeon. The dad I'd like to follow Dungeon

where we train strong dads on Jim Radar. Nice. We have the Instagram Unpaid and Underrated Podcast. do a lot of content there for you guys in the stories more than anything website unpaid intern podcast.com. Sorry Nate broke that this week. It should be back up and running now. We've got the YouTube channel that no one looks at. More importantly, there is the UNU channel on the Massonomics Discord. We love all of our conversations to go there. I'm Keith Honeycutt 73 on Instagram. More importantly, go follow my orange gym, the own wine cellar. Until then, see you next Tuesday.