Unpaid And Underrated - 161 : Line In the Concrete (ft. Big Mikey)

Episode Date: June 9, 2026

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Mikey. They dive right into great topics like Crü Cards, gumballs, forklifts, toliet paper, the Navy, and strength coaches. Links Ü&Ü Hoodie Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab Get Your Own Keith Head Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast Our Guest On Instagram @Thepowerbar920 Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar @joey_mleczko Special Guests: Big Andy, Big Hogan, and Big Mikey.

Welcome back, everybody, to episode 297 of the unpaid and underrated podcast, a podcast by crew, for a crew, relentlessly mocked by crew, and greatly supported by a crew, as our t-shirt sales have shown. I am one of the hosts Big Joey. I'm joined, as always, by Big Howdy. Howdy, Howdy, Keith here. I should just said Keith Keith here. I know, you should have.

Line that run right up. And we got some guests here. We got Big Andy. What's going on, though, guys? We got Big Mikey. Yep. And we also brought in this new guy. I don't know if he's ever been on this before.

So maybe you guys can give us a big hand in welcoming for the first time, Big Hogan. Hey, everybody. Hogan wants to give us a little bit of update, fill in, and what I would call a gentle slap around. regarding A little nudge. Yeah, is this, this is round two, round three of crew cards. Yeah, so set three of crew cards will be coming out at the Lift Hard Live Easy. If you don't know what crew cards are, it's a trading card for the guests of the

unpaid honorita podcast in order of voice appearance. So set three, this will be a pretty big set because this is when we get caught up. So when I came up with the project idea to when it's come out, it's kind of been playing catch up, but now we are going to be caught up. And so that will give me a little bit more time for some creative things. So I'm pretty excited to finally

be caught up and what that means for the project moving forward. But for right now, I have submission forms sent out to guests from set, from year two, essentially. So episode one or season two,

uh, would that be 105, episode 105 to 156, I believe. Everybody's gotten the form sent to them, and I believe I've at least seen seen or some acknowledgement from

nearly everybody. So if you have gotten a form, if you've been on episode 105 to 156, you're three, you have that sent to you. If you have not gotten it, let anybody in the crew know, let me know, just get that. information out there like, hey, I don't know where this is. And I'll get that form over to you.

The due date for the people is June 10th. And so that's when those need to be in. And all you need, it's a very simple, take you less than five minutes. You need how you want your name on there. You want a crew fact and you want a lifting fact and then a photo submission. The only big thing I keep on the photos is think about the way the card is laid out. And so the photo needs to allow room for area above your head and below your body to kind of get covered or cropped by the carb. So just be mindful of that. If it doesn't work, I'll try to work around it or I'll message you to submit another one. So maybe send a couple in.

But those are the big things I want to hit on. I'm very excited for this next one to come out. And it'll be in person at the lift part of the VZ. So there'll be a lot of packs to hand out. that's awesome. If you're listening to this, well this comes out the day after the day before. Yeah, you have 24 hours to catch your shit in.

Yeah, if I look the counter for that one. Yeah, now here's the thing. If you don't, if you get a message and you don't submit, Hogan will bother you. And then sometimes I'll bother you. And then the last thing is Keith bothers you. And the one thing about Keith bothering you is

Keith is like the bulldog of unpaid and underrated where like you get the, first two gentle knocks from Hogan and Joey. But then Keith's going to come in and just like embarrass you. So like don't let it get to that. Submit your stuff. There are can I talk about the specialty cards that I'm doing? Yep.

Okay. So there are two cards that are not ultra rare. I don't think that's what you're labeling these ones. But only I will have them. Well, and Hogan will have the original copies. and my kids are getting cards. So here's the one really cool thing that Hogan has done. And, you know, this is not for everybody.

But he has given me the option because we don't share my children online, right? So we don't want to send these out to people and have them take pictures of my kids' card and go, look what I got. And it goes out all over the internet. So that was really cool. I want to thank Hogan for that. That was, I know I thanked you personally, but I want to put it out there that that was really awesome. But what that does mean is I will have a couple extra cards. and they will be cards that literally nobody else has.

So I don't know if I'm going to run a contest. I don't know if I'm just going to send them to trusted individuals because it does have to be somebody that I know will not post my children. And yeah, just again wanted to say thank you, Hogan, and that meant a lot to me. I wanted to say it while I had you on video. Yeah, and it really leans into the theme, I think, of the cards, is that if you are involved enough to be on this podcast,

I consider you a pretty active crew member. And I think it's a small way of saying thank you for that involvement and getting involved with the community in that way. And so that's some of the idea behind it. And another motivation for people to engage and know each other and talk, which I know that was the point of you and you in the first place, is how to get to know people before we go to these events. So kind of picking back and off that.

The thing that you did note there that sparked an idea that I want to make sure I spoke on here, I'm getting more requests than I ever have before for additional orders of someone's card, like someone who's already getting their card, like wanting more copies of theirs for various reasons. And so the blanket rule I have generally is I'm not going to, for the first edition, I'm not going to increase the quantity of cards that I put out just because it's a limited set. But when I do a re-release, it's going to be the unlimited set. there's going to be an unlimited amount of those cards. So when those come out, you know,

that there will be more opportunities for additional cards we send to people. And on the other end of that, you know, I take direct requests for like submissions to do personalized cards. And so I've had people reach out to me and even order, order for their own card with a different type of background, different format, everything. And so, you know, you can always commission one as well. And I think for what you're getting, it's fairly reasoned to price. And I'm happy to

continue working on it until it's exactly how you want it. So if that's something anybody's interested in, please message me and we can communicate that with that as well. And where are they going to find you at? How are they going to? What's your Instagram handle? At World's strongest psychologist. Appreciate that. I bet if you just search Hogan, you will probably get pretty dang close. It makes it more than likely, more than likely. So now that you're basically going to be caught up. Are we going to see quarter off in batches? Like, you can do like 25 people, or are you still going to let it build up to 50

and we're not going to see you for a year? So you're not going to get new cards till each year. So the main idea here is that these will then come out every year for the lift card, live easy. But all together, for the first edition. But the other major crew events, there's going to be re-releases of the

unlimited sets. And I'll probably also do like extra prints so I can mail some out or have I been doing should I give a bunch of Tanner and just say hey throw these in with different orders and it's near after a crew that you'll likely get one in your next order.

Yeah, me and Steve to got that. I got I got Steve's. Just a little post that said Steve Canada Joey Canada. I love that Toby just got his like six months later. I don't know what happened with his mail with his address but I got a chuckle. I think that was just when he ordered

what happened with his is that he said that he would be in person of the Arnold or I just screwed up I can't know. No, he was but he literally left Saturday afternoon. Like I think he came in and watched Strongman Thursday, Friday and his flight was before the Eagle dinner. Oh, Toby.

And so he gave it to Tanner, and then it was just, he got it with Tanner with his next order. And I guess as a girl was a tank top. So, Mikey, that makes sense. In a year when you got a DM from World Strongest Psychologist going, hey, do you want to get

get your crew card. Don't let it get to Keith messaging you. I will say an update I am doing in the notification, once I get caught up and there'll be a little bit of a weird window where I'm playing catch up with probably 10 people or so, but I'm going to keep up with this as the guests come on. I'm going to send them the as it comes on. And that way I can just slow roll them throughout the year.

And I'll still put a bit of a timeline crunch on. people, but it'll give them more time. And it won't be to where, I mean, it's a month's amount of work, like, from after I get home and working out to then, like, it's the entire month of every spare time I got for us to make the cards. So I'd like to spread that out if I can. Of course. Well, at least you haven't spread out your move as long as Ryan took. So you got that going for you. Legend has it. Ryan's still moving to this day. Sure is. All right, Hogan, thanks so much for jumping on. I don't know if you're going to stick around for the rest of general topics, but eventually we have a, some things to get to.

I'll probably hop off, but thank you all so much again for having me, and I can't wait for sure to get their car. Sorry, I should have got you on last week when this would have given people more than 24 hours. You have 24 hours as well. Such is life. Hey man, they haven't gone in by now. I'm a different person as well as I was on set one. I was pretty loose on it, but I'm like, get your stuff in. Yeah. Less work for me, I guess, if you don't send one in. So, yeah. We like lines in the concrete, not lines in the sand around here. All right, Hogan.

Well, we appreciate that, buddy. Let's do a rapid fire. Anybody drinking or wearing anything special or noteworthy? Actually, I am. Hogan, what I'm wearing, buddy. Oh, hey, look at that. The VIC. I like it.

Hello. Well, you got to rip your friends' gems every now and then. I'm wearing a very old-school bandwarch, actually. You're nipples through that. That's a little... You can't. Not. Oh, yeah.

Nice. I got my fancy lift shirt on too. Yeah, buddy. This was a little extra special to me. It's got a nice little story to it. Okay. It wasn't being sold. And my wife actually messaged Mathonomics and asked them if they had any of them laying

around and they actually got me one for my birthday. This was, I think, last year. So they haven't sold this shirt in how long. Uh, it's maybe, I mean, publicly several years, but I think we had a release, it might have just been something left over from Lyft, because we had a limited release at Lift Hard and awesome. I got mine. I got mine at the Arnold, I think. It's still awesome, man. That's a good story. And then I think it was just, and then I think it went away. And then it was, uh, Lift Hard Live Easy tour, but it been two, maybe. Two years ago. That's where I got mine as well. Yep. Word. And then in, in honor of our guest, I'm drinking the middle of light. nice. Oh, nice.

I got a crispy, a hard Dr. Pepper. Oh, nice. Diesel there. I just got a bubbly.

Nothing to me. Actually, it's a water loop, but bubbly adjacent. One of the new ultra red, white,

blue raz monsters. I don't let you lie. He's drinking a tall boy. He's drinking some beer. He's just drinking. Just being a, doing some regular Minnesota shit.

That's why the Minnesota drivers are so fucking bad up. Drinking and drive it is all I know. No, that shit. The big text bar, Hogan, do you put an order in on one of those, buddy? If anyone's, I'll let you, you're just as familiar a lot of people. At the sooner, it's, by the time this comes out, it shouldn't be a secret anymore of what the big text bar is. Yeah, I put in order for one exactly how I'm getting in here.

I think I've figured out what we're doing. I think it's going to, Steve was going to order one to him. I don't think it's any difference in shipping if we sent to the same place. And he already has to come to me to pick stuff up for me. So I think that's what I'm going to do. If that doesn't pan out, we're going to be strapping a 10-foot barbell to the root of our bar and driving across the country. Anyone that's not familiar, though, do you want to give a, yeah, yeah, yeah,

but made a breakdown of what the bar we're talking about is? Yeah, so Massonomics is working with Texas Power bars to make a, a 10-foot strong-man death-lift bar. That's what they are. It's 29 millimeters, but 10 feet long. Kind of what you see at the rogue, their elephant bar. And so they'll be their nice bar at the Lift Hard Live Easy to pull from the strong-man competition.

And they're going to make a handful of them very limited run. I don't think they're ever going to make any more. Or it's going to be outrageously priced if they do. And so kindly enough, by being involved in this great community, we get a chance to have choice at buying one of those. Nice. That's awesome. That'll be some,

what do you think you're going to pull on it? You have a prediction of where your deadlift might hop out at here in July? I don't know. You think you're getting 50 pounds out of it?

You think you're getting 20 pounds out of it compared to like a deadlift bar? So I have talked to you about this multiple times. I've pulled on long, like 10 foot bars before. I don't find it to make a major difference in my deadlift. With the place spades?

I've never seen one of the plates spaced out that far, though. At 79, that's kind of crazy. We were going to pull on something that was spaced out 72 and a half and we're adding, you know, a larger than medium-sized dong, you know, size to the plates being spaced out. That's a lot of, that's a lot of inches. My advice to anybody who hasn't pulled on one and knowing that that's... A dong? We probably don't have a whole lot of people who have.

But, um, those have it is, is really slow off the floor and it will be a grind. Like it won't even move for like a whole second, but then it will go. You just have to keep fighting. It's not like a powerlifting style deadlift where you can really just rip at the floor. You got to just keep pulling and it will come up. You got to pull the shit all that slack. Yeah. It's going to be a lot of slack.

Yeah. It would be more for sure. So we got, we had to, we had six weeks to figure it out. We have the specs now so we kind of can do our best to make-shift something in the home gyms and see what we can do. And I don't know. I'm glad it's not, it can be a complete surprise like the day of. Like, we already have enough mystery shit going on. Let's at least know what the bar is.

That's given me more than a little bit of anxiety the last couple of months of what fucking bar are we using, God damn it. So, good deal. If you don't ever know which bar you're pulling on, what bar do you train with? Well, as I see, you almost always do. or at least you have a good idea. I don't know. But that's good stuff. That should be a good one.

See, anybody watched the YouTube video this week? I haven't yet. I came home and crushed a nap. I was telling Andy before you guys got here. It was the biggest Chicago influencer that works for Young L.A. That's who it was. So he did a tour of the Chicago Skyline and, you know, some of his downtown apartment, Jim.

Yeah. He's really got a hell of of you out that show. Yeah. Oh, God. The editing in that video was so funny. Just making it look like Chicago. I mean, just poorly

making it look like Chicago. It was pretty good. I realize how many bench tracks he has in there. Oh, yeah, he's got four or five benches. Yeah, it's pretty wild. It's 27. It's Huck Finn, by the way.

I don't think anybody's actually said the name. Oh, yeah. It was Huck Finn's, Jim. I will watch that one as the guy who really enjoys Huck in small doses. I, uh, I don't know me watching that. Yeah, let me say that again. Uh, but yeah. And then I was, I was taking the trash out last night and the guy that cuts my neighbor's lawn, he's, basically, he's another neighbor, but he lives like a block away or whatever. And he just comes and mows the, uh, the rental property next door and I've been, you know, casually talked to him for the last decade, you know, a couple sentences here and there. And he asked me, uh, if I was retired. And I was just like, thinking of myself like, what the fuck's he talking about? Like, am I that fucking old? Someone thinks I'm retired. And then he was like, no, you're, you haven't brought your work truck.

home in like a long time. I was like in, you know, behind the scenes, like we got a new regional manager and he's buster balls about not taking company vehicles home anymore. So I no longer can bring a company vehicle home after doing it for a decade straight. So, but just the fact that like, this dude thought I was retired. My motherfucker, I'm 40. Like, I'm not fucking retired. And I came in the house and told Stephanie that story. And then we have a kind of a little like, I train at the, when I train at the strong men gym, I like shock a lot of the guys that are in their 20s and early 30s that like when I do tell them for almost 41 and they're like, no, no way. And it's I tell her that sometimes.

And then she was like, yeah, no one told you didn't look 40 today, did they? She got a good rib in me. And that was just like, that was just my little funny story there because I was just like, it just happened yesterday. I was like, goddamn. Like, I thought. And then it's like the downward spiral. Like how awesome it would be to be retired?

Like, it would love to be retired. I know Jen wants to be retired. I think I would too. But, uh, I don't know, that was that. Um, big follow up. Big follow up for me. Uh, you guys remember the episode of Nero Pavlo where he had a, blind rate, some of the stuff that we rated very poorly on Jim Radar.

Yeah, that was a fun game. That was my favorite game. Who was it that made the image that we posted? Because that was great. Stoll Matt, Matt. Thank you, Stoll Matt, Matt. And so Karp was like, Joey, you got to get Bells of Steel, right? He said something like, they got to get you one.

So I tagged them thinking, ha, ha, ha, this is funny, Belzo Steel, let's talk. And then I'm at work, so I don't look at my phone for two. hours, I come back and I get a notification that says, keep an eye on your DMs, bells of steel is following you. I now have a bells of steel SS4 in my gym. And, uh, yeah, technically I have to say any review I give is a paid promotion, but I will tell you year, like for years I hated SSB squats because I didn't have one. The fucking SSB didn't have a goddamn pad on it. You just had a bar with handles.

Yeah. For anyone that doesn't know the picture, he didn't have an SSB. I actually, I brought Morgan down to show her the differences between the two. And I was like, look at this thing. Why is it nerled? Why is the bar nerled around the, like not even the handles? The bar is neural. This is the worst thing.

So I did have my first workout with it. And what a difference it made. I was pretty beat up today, which I think is why I had a nap, because yesterday I hit SSB pretty hard. So yeah, they just, they asked me for some specific things, like a video that I actually shouldn't upload that want me to send it to them directly.

And, but they want, they want a picture or a shot of me doing squats and an accessory. So I think we're going to do some searchers with that and talk about the benefits to stone lifting training. Undread the handles so you don't like, oh, absolutely. But again,

those handles come on. Yeah, they don't have to hit your thighs when you spot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, world of difference. Thanks to, thanks to Karp for even making the suggestion. But also thanks to Bells of Steel for being like, yeah, here you go. No problem. Like, it was, it was nothing.

By the time I had the contract signed, it was delivered within 48 hours. You're going to love having a real SSB with padding and actually being able to, like, squat periodically and not, like, hurt your arms and shit. Looking forward to the quad pump. It's really like my tendonitis makes squatting hard in general because the the flexation kind of hurts the tendon here. So having that there, yeah, I'm looking forward to this. I was going to do good mornings, but who does good mornings and likes them? I know the, I know you're on that grind for the deadlift, five plate deadlift. Have you ever had a four plate squat?

No. I think grind to the four plate SSB. Oh, geez. I don't even know if I I mean have I Have I talked about that yet? Do you guys even want to hear about How that went down?

I'd like to hear it. Thanks, Ogun. I'm looking at everybody's like not saying it. I don't know. Okay, I'll fuck right off then. Like, um, so essentially a couple years ago, Dodd's asked me,

500 pound deadlift coming. And I said, no, no way. It's, it's, that's too much weight for somebody my size. That's,

I've been so afraid of it that I like was like, if I tap out at 465, I've done what I want to do. And I did. And then I kind of moved into Strongman and just haven't even really, I've said it before. I don't know what my one rep max is and I don't care. Right?

Because in Strongman training, your one rep max is kind of, who cares? Well, at least when you train on Juggernaut Strongman. So then I go to that Strongman thing with Cam. And I did that 405 with the plates moved out a little bit. and it flew. Like, it was RPE8. Like, I had more in me.

And I'm going, like, that's insane, because I'm only, I'm down to two to three days in the gym right now. I'm not training four or five days a week like I used to. What is happening here? Right? And then my, my axle press was, again,

way over what juggernaut thought it was. So things have just been moving up somehow. And I think it's part of my diet, better sleep, and constant moving. So I decided to take my bells of steel pads, put the straight bar on, because I think I'd already loaded 365 for reps. And then I was like, I'm going to just add five plates and see how it feels in my hands. That's what I just wanted to do.

And I got Morgan to come down in case I fast out, to be honest with you. That's why she was in that video. And it moved, right? Like it, it, it, for me, it moved like a centimeter. But even Steve messaged me, he's like, I think that moved more than you. thought it was going to. And so now it's there. Like it's,

it's in my sights. I think a five plate deadlift is somewhere in my future. Even if it's a block pull, I think there is a chance that five plates is going up in one form or another. And now I have a goal. And honestly, once I set that goal, I've been back to consistent,

right? It's not like, oh, I don't feel good today. Oh, I had a hard day at work. Now it's go home, getting the gym,

shut up. Five plates is coming. And that's kind of nice. I mean, that's the story behind that. Thank you. It was all psychological, even putting it on there. I didn't think I was going to get it up and lock it out. But it was really just to tell myself, this is what it feels like in your hands. Can you do this? And that was on a straight bar. That wasn't even the deadlift bar. So yeah, thank you, Hogan for saying you wanted to hear that boring story. I just, as someone who also has had that, basically the same exact journey in a sense. That was, I don't know, it spoke to me a lot. And I wanted to give you a chance to. Speak that out loud of the whole community. Thank you. Okay.

I think you as a SP will really help out with the deadlift too. I hope so, yeah. My weakness in deadlifts is lockout. Oh yeah, it'll work your up back, but crazy. Yeah, and that's, you know, because it keeps you straight up, and it definitely will help,

so I'm going to actually... You keep yourself straight up. It wants to fucking fold you in half. Yes. So the first time you load that with somewhat, with a decent amount of weight, just make sure your fucking core is tight your back's vertical because it's gonna...

Oh, I always have safety arms up. I don't fuck around. I ain't getting folded under nothing. I've watched, like, some 500 pound squatters get under like 315 on an SSB and just get fucking staple. And I was just like, ah, you dumb shit. Well, because I used to do them all the time

until I realized I hated the SSB I had. And now I might alternate between back squats and SSB. Yeah, you just need to cut that bar up and throw it away from you're not going to sell it. I tried selling it. I know you did. And I was like, this bar, 100 bucks. This bar plus four,

plates, $200. Come and get it. And then I got a, will you take $80 for the four plates? Get fucked. You better off just keeping the plates outside in case you're... Well, now that I know I'm building the farmer's handle, those plates are going outside. Yeah. Right.

Like that, that's what that's going to do. All right. Oh. Big Mikey, you said you listened to last week's massonomics episode. So what did you think of it? And if you had to give it a rating, what would you give it, buddy? Last week's, so we talked about this past Sunday's one. Yes. The Q&A part two.

Yes, Q&A part two. I thought it was fantastic. I specifically really liked the training talk at the end. I think it's kind of fun to hear about what other people are doing and what they think about their training. The squats that Tanner's doing, how he adds the. extra 10 pounds on the fifth set. I've done that before.

And I think it's one of the best ways just to get a lot of heavier reps in. And it's just a fun way to train. Yeah, so I thought it was, that was my favorite part of the episode. Q&A part's always fun too to hear about what's going to. Yeah, I thought it was a great up. And you have to get a, you get about a rating. and what would you think that'd be? Yeah, if I had to give it a rating out of five,

I'd probably give it about five big boys. Yeah, definitely five out of five big boys. Nice. Jory, do you get a chance to consume it, I'm sure. Always, always. Might take me a day or two, but I do. You know, yep, do love a good Q&A. Don't know how much I love two Q&As in a row.

but that's a personal thing because I've always thought like we should do a Q&A and then they do one and in my head I'm just like I'm not doing one the same week or the week after they do one like I've got I can't if I can't handle that

I imagine there's other people out there I think they did it just because they had like 70 people and then they only get through like four questions it's not like back in episode 200 and something where they they were lucky to get 20 right now they're getting who knows how many

I don't really remember much of the questions. I got a problem with, I think, the bearings on one of my wheels, so it's really hard to focus on anything other than that while I'm driving. But yeah, I will also say that's a lot of sets and rap talk for a massanomics episode, right? That's more than usual. As somebody, I know that Keith, you were kind of hinting that you might agree with Tanner and Mikey, you were saying you like that method as well. I'm doing Juggernaut.

Jugginot starts with your top set and does backoffs, which is the opposite of what Tanner was doing, but I do love the idea of what Tanner's doing. However, I do have a lot of trust and faith in the Chadbot that I probably won't be doing that. We're going to give that 5 out of 5, 10 pound increments. Nice. Andy, can you safely give a rating?

You put down your drink while you're driving. It is an energy drink, everybody. We are kidding. It really is. Yeah, it's red, white, and blue, just like some other cans, but we just know who's at this one. We'll save that for later. I got a chance to listen to it as well.

The Q&A is always kind of fun because you really do get some pretty unhinged things, but I'm actually going to triple down on the training talk because, so I've been going through the back catalog. I just finished the back catalog, actually. It is checkmark. Heck yeah, but listening to the back catalog and listening to them talk about their training, you know, 10 years ago, and then listening to them talk about their training right now was a lot of fun. Because they're talking about how juggernaut AI has evolved, how they've both evolved in their training with that.

Kieran Tanner talked 10 years ago about his powerlifting training where he does all strong man kind of stuff now, or least primarily, like just that contrast was really, really cool. So that was my favorite part about it, but definitely five. out of five, yeah, buddies. Good deal. Yep, I enjoyed it. I do think my favorite part, I guess. I think most people's favorite part is when they can find something that resonates and when they can find out like agree with someone.

So like Tanner's, the way Tanner warms up, you know, very much similar to how I would consider warming up. The idea of taking your actual working weight for a single and then doing it for a set of like, you know, for a triple or a double or a set of five or whatever, I'm like, 100% have done that dozens of times where it's like, you know, I just need to feel the weight once and then I'm like good to go. And then on deadlift, like, yeah, I'm going to do like a 60 pound jump on deadlift. So I'm not going to do anything close to what my working weight is for my last warmup.

100% agree. So the way Tommy was talking, I was like, I definitely think I could never train the way Tommy trains and I could probably train the way Tanner trains very regularly and have no issue with that. But I did enjoy just, you know, the sets and reps is always fun. They don't do it that in depth that often. So, you know, that's not why we're here every week, but it's nice to sprinkle in a now and then. So I'll go ahead and give it five out of five big texts. That's big text. Like apostrophe S, not like

ES, I believe. Just the way it sounded might not have came out right. Joe, you got any affiliates? Always, always. Obsidian Ammonia right now, running a buy-to, get-one program. Again, Travis is going through some stuff. So if you make an order and it doesn't ship same day or whatever, like give him some slack. He's a

good guy. Good guy. He's just going through some stuff. Um, plate snacks code unpaid as well. Obviously get your stickers from plate snacks. Uh, hopefully he's very, very busy right now with the lift hard leave easy coming up in a bunch of you getting your stickers made through plate snacks using code unpaid saving 10% helping a friend of the podcast, helping a friend of unpaid under. I guess he is a friend of our podcast. Yeah, I've stopped. I talk to him a bunch.

I've, if he ever joined crew, I'd get him on. I've even considered getting on, but I don't know. It's like, but he did our, he put our flag on the website. I guess he's our first friend of the podcast. He just got very bored. He got very annoyed of me effing the fucking be the middleman. Because it was awesome. We had people buying banners like every week for like months straight.

And I think he just was like, yeah, dude, I'm just going to make this a cue. I'm just going to make this like a thing on his web, whatever, you know, whatever. I don't even have one. That's just because the shipping across the border is a pain in the arse right now. And yeah, belt fed strength. Chris, doing amazing work. He did that. I think he just did one recently.

with like a Mario landscape or something like that. It's all handmade, hand-hammered, hand-leathered. I don't think he kills the cow himself, but I think that's like the only thing he doesn't do by himself. And you use code unpaid there. Get one of those randy specials. Her artwork is pretty awesome. It is.

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Andy, we are dope. Thank you. What a guy. What a guy. Good dude. Yeah. All right. Just does it himself.

Got all the looky lose out of here. And let's see if we can't get Big Mikey on the phone. What do you think, Joey? Give him a ring. Hey, Big Mikey. Is that you? It is I. Mikey here.

You are live on unpaid and underrated. The podcast for Group, Bik crew. As always, just going to jump into it. Don't want to miss any gold. We just did some general topics with some. some other strangers. Good looking guys, but you're the guest now.

We're going to just jump into the kind of who's, who's, who's you. Who's you? What was that old show? It's your life. And they would like bring out like, yeah, like I know mankind did one with the rock,

but I think it was based on an old TV show, this is your life or something. Not particularly familiar. Yeah. Shocking nobody. Shocking nobody. But Mikey not knowing about it, shocks me.

Keith's not a big TV game show consumer, right? Yeah. So, Mikey, who are you? And tell us where to find you, who you are in the Discord? Yeah. So obviously, Big Mikey, Mike, depends on who you are. It's what you call me. I live in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

I'm originally from small town nearby. let's see I I spent a lot of time moving around the last 10 years lived in Washington State Virginia Utah for a couple years I was in the Navy for a little bit

and I met my wife I somehow convinced her to coming back to Wisconsin even though she swore she'd never moved back to a state where it's snowed again and she chose

And Wisconsin is where you went? She's from Pennsylvania originally. And I was like, hey, we were living in Utah. I was like, what do you think about moving Wisconsin? And she's like, oh, but here we are. Now I got her. Was it the cheese? It was the cheese that convinced her.

I think now that she's here, the cheese is, it makes it pretty easy to stay. Because let me tell you, it is a game changer. I started out doing powerlifting. We'll get to that. We'll get to that. So in the Discord. The layout question was essentially just where do we find you?

Instagram and Discord username. And then the way it was portrayed was tell me your life story. But we got you. Where are people going to find you at on Instagram and Discord? Instagram. Find me at the Power Bar 920. That's my gym page. I don't use my personal one anymore.

And on Discord, you can find me at What is my Discord name? Oh, it's at Mikey Lankor, I think. There we go. Yeah. I'm not very active. We like people having the opportunity to go follow the guest and, you know. Yeah.

Just be like, oh, was that guy's name again? I'm going to go look it up. Good deal. Yep. Give me a follow. So you got a fairly low number. You're in the bottom half of the supporting membership numbers. So what brought you to Massonomics?

Why are you still here? So I started out as. a well I still am Huckfin Barbo fan watching his crazy videos and my my first started I mean I started training years ago but when I first found him that I mean a group of guys we try to imitate similar stunts of his not exactly the way he did because that's a little too much but you know delifting a lot drink and slamming beers and all that and I remember uh him talking about So then that got me, oh, what's massonomic? Found them then, and ever since then, I've been hooked.

Nice. Excellent, excellent. But you've been around for a while at episode or at a, you know, supporting number 297. And that's your old supporting number. Who knows what it is now, Tanner. And is there a piece of massonomics merch that you kind of wish you had? Yeah. you know, I wish I will have gone the bright yellow curl shirt.

Yeah. I got to go find to mine. Is my camera moving for you guys? That's fucking annoying. Okay. I don't think yours is. I think I have it such a dynamic. I'm not going to know.

Yeah, there we go. That's watch. Nice. Do you have the, uh, I know you had your, your card there. Do you have the Hall of Fame status?

Or did you get your Hall of Fame card too? Yes. Including tonight, where yet? I, including tonight, I am, let's, I have six check marks. Oh, nice.

What are some easy ones? Not high on the list, but what is that? What are some other ones you think you'll be able to knock off in the near future or in the next year? I keep telling myself, I'm going to start coming to these events more. Yeah, this will be the first step. It sounds like you're not scheduled for Lift Hard Live Easy then, are you? No, I'm not. Unfortunately, just from moving to here not too long going time off is pretty limited.

I understand that all too well Well what else? Yeah, but I've always wanted to You know, the Arnold's always in my future Now that I'm in the Midwest, it's much easier to get there What do you got to get? Any pictures with other crew at least? You got, you should be in with

Yeah, me and Big Bryce from Utah Nice We actually met, he lived About five minutes away from me We found out through The supporting member map Mm-hmm, that's awesome. So is he one of the guys that just did the big strong-man show in Utah then?

Was it with the crew? No. I got invited to that. Yeah, that was weird. Oh, are you talking about the World Strength Games? Yes, I believe. Okay, gotcha. No, I thought you were talking about the Rocky Mountain Proa.

No, I know there was like four guys that are massonomic sporting members that all competed at the big Strongman show in Utah. Yeah, world strength games. Yeah, that was a couple weeks ago, I think. Yeah, I just didn't know. I didn't know how many Utah crew there were, and I assumed one of them might have been from Utah. Because I knew three of the guys, I didn't know the fourth guy, and I didn't know who you just mentioned. So I figured maybe it would be the same person. At least when I live in Utah, it was just me and Big Bryce, who were the only, at least on the map, that were the only ones living in Utah. But unless they got there past two or three months, I don't know. Gotcha.

you got you got some you got some work to to put in in your future you got some you got some home gym con in and you got some lift hard live easy and all that good stuff what's what's wisconsin you're in wisconsin yeah he's not he's not when we we stayed in madison wisconsin yeah yeah i'm 14 hours away from everdeen uh from columbus i think i'm about 10 so you could make it to the lift hard live easy you got this i could but i think I think this year crew falls is on my list. Yes. I recommend crew falls.

Just because that one's close. I mean, Sue Falls is on. Oh yeah. That would be like seven hours in, right? So yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That's do that. Get your Friday off now. Go ahead and just pencil it in. We're going to assume it's going to be the first Saturday of the month. I'd actually call out to Katner and everyone's going to laugh at me and call me stupid for caring. But like it would be awesome to have the date of the crew falls so I could book flights and save for $400. Because my flight right now is already.

going to be $400 and the closer I get, like I can't spend $1,000 on a flight. So if my flight's already going to be over $400, I would love to get that date locked in so I can try to get the cheapest flight possible. But no, that's neither here or there. But I know someone that has control of that listens to this podcast. But no, that's good. You will have a, I really do hope to see you there and you would have a blast.

Oh, yeah. The easier one to kind of do the third live easy is a little overwhelming. I mean, so if you have any kind of like, you know, stage fright, crew falls is a nice little icebreaker for. Yeah. All right. So tell me about the power bar. That's the handle. I'm assuming that's the Jim Radar name.

Like, let's hear about the gym. Yep. So it's actually the third generation of my home gym. First gen was when I lived in Virginia. We had a shed built in our backyard. This is before I really got. into like the home gym game so just a small shed on a bunch of uneven broken concrete so you know how that goes yeah doesn't sound great no no but made work with that an ankle twister for sure

yeah yeah bar rolling everywhere uneven yeah um now when i live in utah i had a one stall garage took it over to my wife can't park in the garage sure cars paint loved that getting baked in the sun every day. Oh yeah. Well, and then there's so much salt in the air. So that's just covering your car too. So now I'm in the power bar. Salt Lake City. Yeah. I see. You know what's funny is I watched you do it. I'm also doing it because we get our problem up here and you probably have it in Wisconsin salt on the road. Yeah. So like that's causing rust and you would think like oh, a place like Utah, it's always hot. No salt on the roads. It's salt in the air. Yeah.

How is that? Your car just covered. How is that a salty lake? That I don't. What's the science behind that? There's salt in the lake. Well, fuck you. Didn't we have a guy who does wet rocks?

Shouldn't we have him talk about this? Well, he lived in Utah. I'm assuming he knows why there's a big massive lake that's like half the size of the state that is salty. I guess I've literally in the name, but I don't think I ever registered that it's a salt lake. You don't realize, you're like, huh, everyone's driving white cars here. Of course they are. Yeah, because you can't see all the salt marks on them. It's interesting.

Well, now that we have had you on unpaid and underrated, I'm going to go ahead and hit your gym on Jim Radar with the official code on paid. I cannot give you any points, but I'm going to start doing that with every guest. That's actually cool. I like that. At one point I did, I did have a list of guests. Like one of my list on Jim Radar was people, like, was past guests, but it just got, as like 50 more people joined, it's just, I couldn't keep up with it.

Well, going forward, if you're a guest and you get the code unpaid, that means you have officially been talked about on unpaid and underrated. I think that's pretty nifty. And just to make it clear, you are a CTF, you are on Jim Radar, all that. He is. I'm looking at his gym. It's right there in the corner. That's good stuff.

I'm in the power bar now in my basement. It's a little grungy down. there. That's okay. Basement lifts in the best. It can be cleaned and vacuum them and paint them and there's all kinds of good stuff. It's a work in progress. We moved in and it was not nice down there and I was like, all right, let's just get like

the basic song that's vacuum up. Well, the spider web is and everything. And let me just get, because I moved all my gym equipment from Utah and I was like, let's just get it down there so I can get set up. And as time goes on, I'll make improvements. But it's a very basic setup. got, I just got Delo platform. I use a yoke as my rack.

Okay. If we're going to get into the gym, there is a question I have. Okay. You have a piece of equipment that, uh, it looks like foam, uh, tie attached to a piece of wood, uh, in the shape of a Trojan horse. What the hell is that? It's a GHT. You haven't heard of the old Trojan 74?

It, uh, it looks like a GHT for sure. It's the most highest rated a rack attachment on Jim Ray. Is it a DIY G-H-D? It is. And I did not DIY it. I found it on Marketplace for 20 bucks. Oh, hell yeah. The guy must have been probably close to 30-ish years old.

And I went there. He lived in an apartment. I got it off. And I was like, so like when did you make this? Like, well, why do you have this? in an apartment. He's like, well, I made this when I was in eighth grade. I was like, first of all, what kind of eighth grader wants a GHD?

That's funny. Got to put your drinks on something, I guess. You got to put your juice box on something. Yeah. So if you're listening to this and you haven't seen this thing, go look at this thing. First of all, it looks sturdy as hell. I'm looking at it right now. But it is genuinely that looks like carpet foam.

Yeah. Yeah, carpet foam tied to a series of two by fours. and, you know, other, what's sort of looking for, custom cut wood. But that thing's great. Is there a thing on Jim Radar for DIY GHDs? I think we... I think we...

Now he's at it. Well, yeah. Harder to add stuff now because you have links and stuff, but, you know, they're kind of... I think they're about done adding DIY stuff. Just put it out there, Tanner. You're listening. I know you're listening, Tanner.

I think we need a specific DIY GHD just for the power bar. no I don't use I only do like the simple back extensions on it I don't do like the whole I won't do the sit-ups on it I won't do like the full you know stand all the way up like what's it called when it was a halo it it does look sturdy but yeah I don't know how much I to an extent yeah I don't know how much I'll be flying around on that thing and I always put my hands in front of myself in case it collapses or yeah you've got to break your hands And break your arms, not your face, right? One of those is the moneymaker.

Yeah. So I did see you do a bunch of strong, or you've done a lot of strongman stuff in the past, but is your gym not catered to Strongman if it's in the basement, or do you have really high ceilings? No, I do all my overhead stuff either seated or now that's getting nice for all I do it outside. Gotcha.

So you got to do you have just have an extra barbell and some bumpers you keep outside, or do you have to literally lug shit from the basement out to outside and back and forth? So I keep my log out there. I have a 12-inch titanium log, the rackable one. I keep a set of 45 steel strength co-plates out there, and I have those cheaper drop mats that you get off Amazon,

the black ones that bounce straight back up to your face when you drop. Oh, yeah, the Jake specials that will fucking kill you. So I can't drop. I have to get more 25s because putting a 45-pound plate on a log, is not the greatest. Yeah, I see. So I'm very careful with it. I just started going back outside with it,

just because it's starting to get a little nicer out. But all winter long, I did seeded log press, which is actually a lot harder than you would think, because getting it out of Iraq. Yeah, yeah. And where you don't have, like, like, straight 90 degree up? Because, like, I've trained incline log because it was actually, like, in a competition last year I did,

but I've never done just seated like military press with a log. Yes. Basically what you're doing. I don't have any back support. I don't have like an inclined bench or whatever. So you're just sitting on on a bench with no back and then just doing it. So you're engaging in a shit's on a core or two with that. Yeah.

Well, I've got the 45s on. Just do it from the floor. Just roll it over your legs and go up from there. Yeah. Yeah. I think if I find like the right part in my basement, I could do a standing one.

but I'd have to go between the pillars and... Yeah, I'm in that position. Yeah, that's what I do. That's why I don't... The only reason I don't have a log, to be honest with you, is that I couldn't do it. I'd have to do it outside, but... So we had a couple submissions,

friends, family, and all that kind of stuff. When you sent that out to people, how did you explain to them who we are and why you're asking them to fill out this kind of long-form questionnaire? Yeah, I was just like, hey, I'm going on a podcast, and they're like, first of all,

I don't think my family really listens to many podcasts. I told my mom about this on Sunday. I was like, hey, I'm going on a podcast this week. She goes, what's a podcast? Of course. So, I mean, my wife, she knows Masonomics. She knew about this. So she knows, but my brother.

What is that? Your wife knows what a podcast is? Yeah, yeah. She knows what a podcast is. then my brother he's like yeah Philadelphia and sure why not same with my other the other ones who did it so it's it's easier to explain to them what like I'm going on a podcast about you know it's just hard to explain what the podcast is about that's for the issue and that's kind of like that point of that question is we kind of want to hear you know

when your wife goes the hell is unpaid and underrated like well it's started in Aberdeen, South Dakota 10 years ago. Like, we just want to be like, I was wondering. Yeah. My brother,

he's the one who gifted me my drink spot. Mm. Not knowing what massonomics was. It was kind of one of those things. He's like, hey, what do you want for Christmas? I sent to me.

I'm like, buy me this. Send it to my house. And when I told him about, I'm going to be on this podcast, he's like, I don't know what that is. And I was like,

well, you know that drink spotter you bought me. I don't know, like, he's like, yeah, yeah. I was like,

well, There's a community of us who support massonomics and it's called Unpaid and Underrated. They have a podcast where we get to know each other basically and just talk. And it can be about lifting anything. And here we are. And he's like, okay, well, sure, I'll fill it off then. That's awesome. Yeah, that's nice.

That is essentially what it was. Good explanation. Nice. Mikey, you've been listening to some of these episodes every now. You told us you listened to a little bit of it each week. So did you ever get to the part where it's least fun, most fun? Yeah, I did actually for my first time during Pavlo's episode. Oh, all righty.

Okay, so we got a little game here. I'm going to give you a topic, and I just want you to kind of give me the least fun thing about it and the most fun thing about it. And use your druthers, take as long as you want. Just two specific answers for two specific questions. Lease fun, most fun. Strength training on a ship. that's a good you thought that concrete floor

being uneven wasn't it? Yes I feel free to like go because I'm curious so you would mention your Navy so if you wanted to share about you know

just kind of set the tone while you're kind of given the answer I guess if you want okay yeah so the gym's on the boat

at least when I was on they're up high they're not like on the main level they're up higher What happens when you're up higher, it rocks more. Yeah. So, um. So, like, elevated than you're saying.

Like, they're not even like, like, like, so there's different levels to the ship. And obviously, I was on an aircraft carrier, which is the biggest one. Gotcha. And, um, I'm, yeah, you're not on like the main level where, like, you know, the flight deck and all that stuff. You're above all that. Gotcha. And, um, you get off of work. Everyone gets off around the same time.

get a small probably 200 square foot gym that has one rack and then some dumbbells and everyone's trying to share. So you have like 30 people and they're taking turns. So first of all, it smells horrible. I don't shower at the point. A lot of salt in there probably, right? A whole lot of salt and a whole lot of semen. He gets it. Get it? Yeah. But, um, yeah. Uh, So it's rocking. Most fun about it, bench press. If you hit it at the right moment, it's shooting up. If you aren't, it's coming right back down.

Oh, yeah, because it's like you're, can use it like the momentum. You're literally using momentum, I guess, or there's some very better word for momentum. It's like oscillate. Oh, that's. Gravity. Yeah. Gravity and gravitas. If you're laying and if the ship rocks this way and you're going up, it's shooting up.

but if you're pressing it, you're rocking down. Yeah, coming right back down. Squatting would be fucking terrifying then. Like, would people... Squatting's awesome. That would be so scary. Yeah, you don't see many people squat on a lot of weight on the boat. Yeah.

So I would say most fun, bench pressing, if you hit the right motion of the ocean, least fun. I wouldn't even see the rockings the least fun. I'm going to say the amount of people that are in there. Yeah. So it's just... was there only was that basically like one ship or i mean had you were you on other ships and they

were all kind of the same thing or was just like in your time in the navy was just one ship on two or three different ships um the one ship i was on the most i was on for seven years and there is not straight as straight as they come yeah but like you weren't on there for like buy honey i'm gone for seven years no no no okay i was assigned to it there you go but basically there's probably three different gyms that you can go to, but they're all the same, basically. Gotcha. So,

yeah, yeah, nothing fancy. So least fun is a gym full of semen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Taste the worst.

Oh, geez, dude. You know, up your pineapple game. All right. So, um, who's your,

like, nothing straight about a Navy ship. Absolutely nothing. Thanks, Aaron. So let's go with your ideal training partner. You can go back in time. Could be any person living alive, living dead. Well, I mean, let's assume they're alive during this progress.

Or even fictional. Who would be the one person you would really want to have a single training session with? Oh, that's a great question. I had to pick one person. You know what? I'm going to say it, just because this is like, at the time when I first got really in the power lifting,

this is the guy who's most influential. I'm going to go with Huck Finn. Yep. I've always loved his videos when I first started, especially when I first really dove deep into it. So that's why I'm going to. Have you ever. met him? I've not.

Oh. Oh, okay. The time is coming after. Yeah, him and I, let's just say some debauchery happens at the Arnold when him and I get together. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It usually results in both of us being fucking hammered by the end of the day all days. I remember the first time I was there

for three days straight and I was there with Massonomics, but like I spent a lot of time with Huck Finn, Jonathan Oldham, and Dan Bell. And yeah, it just, it's, yeah, it's nonstop there. And, uh, yeah. I can imagine. Yeah. He's a ton of fun.

Like earlier when I was like, I like him in small doses. He, he, he, there is a version of me that, like, like, really is a lot like him. Um, but also there's a version of me that gets tired if it's like that all the time. So, yeah, I think that with most, you know, anyone who's been. He's, I'm like that. He's pretty high energy. So that's a very good choice. I think a good training session with him, like he would keep your energy going.

Oh, yeah. Just a good bench night in America session. Yeah. But you'd be hammered by the end of it. 100%. And also, yeah, I'm half his weight. I remember at the last Arnold I was at, I was, I think I was hanging out at the Massonomics booth and specifically watching him.

him and I went, I got to stay away from him. And everybody's like, why? And I'm like, well, he's drunk. I'm half drunk. I'm victim weight. If I go close to him, he's going to try and pick me up. I think I said that to Kevin a couple times. I was like, nope, I'm not going over there.

I'm not going over there. That's like one of those like main things that like you get a bunch around like some strong people on your list like, let me try to pick you up. Somebody's going to say let me try and like let me try and squat you. When you're when you're, when you're drinking. Yeah. It's your that or just like slap me as hard as you can. Yeah, there's that one.

Hit my back. Like, just see if you can hit. Yep. Yep. So as far as your job goes, you and I actually have the same job. So go into it.

Well, similar job. Go into it as much or as little as you want. Yeah. It's not anything exciting. I'm a forklift driver at a paper mill. I work different areas of it. Most of the time I'm working on the loading docks.

is nothing special. It pays my bills. And it's a little stress. I don't have to worry about work when I'm not at work, which is one of the main things. The only thing that I would change is my schedule because I work a rotating swing. So I worked nights the past two nights.

And now when I go back in on Saturday, I'm on days. Are you driving a counterbalance or are you driving a reach? What are you driving? Counterbalance, yeah. Underbalance, yeah. Ooh, do you have the really cool, big, pointy one to pick up the big rolls? I don't drive that one.

Our roll haulers do. Okay. It's a specific kind of training, right? I assume. No, I'm just. You just don't. Yeah, they didn't help you there. When I started out, I was like, okay, that's fine.

I started out driving a 35,000 pound forklift. Wow. I had my previous job in Utah, I ran a steel yard out there. So I was carrying 60 foot pipes. Anything that I was the only person who was able to unload. I was the only person out in the yard. So they'd have you pick up literally anything that came in. Yeah, there's one funny thing that one of my friends sent to me a quick backstory because I know you've not, you don't listen to all of these.

I was doing a job for 13 years, you know, relatively high up in the company, all this kind of stuff. And then I just, one day I just said, I can't do this anymore. And I quit. And that was the idea was to, like, get my time back. Yeah. I don't need two phones. I don't have to constantly be worried. I'm going to get a phone call for an emergency, blah, blah, blah, all that shit, right? And she sends me this thing. It was obviously a tweet or something. And it said, the millennial urge to quit whatever nonsense I've been doing for. for 20 years and go drive a forklift. And I was like, that's too, that's too good. That's too on point. Like, you can't. Yeah.

Don't hit me with that. It's funny because when I was in the Navy, they didn't let me drive a forklift because I'm colored deficient. So they said, oh, like, you didn't pass your forklift physical. You're not allowed to drive this forklift on the boat. I was like, okay, well, I got out. I applied for lows because I was going to school at the time. and Lois is like, oh, you want to drive a forklift?

Sure, here you go. Hop on. Cool. And I was like, you know what? I was going to keep doing this. So I stopped going to school and I just kept driving forth. I was like, it's kind of fun. Yeah, I'm a, I can now do counterbalance and reach.

Okay. Yeah, I was on the 30 foot reach today. Keith, you saw the size of our rackings and stuff like that. That stuff is scary, right? Like once you get 30 feet up, yeah, it's only 1,500 pounds. But like the whole. fork lift starts to sway. Oh, yeah. And as somebody who, like, I haven't, I haven't driven a forklet in over 15 years until I just got certified a couple months ago. And it's just like,

I forgot how terrifying this is. I don't like this. You know, you're safe, but it's like, man, one wrong move. Like, yeah, sprinkler heads going out or I'm tipping. Exactly. Yeah. Whatever. Oh, yeah. So be along with, with, oh, go ahead. Oh, sorry. I just say, along with work, I'm also a student. I do go school still. Yeah, for accounting. That sounds boring. It's pretty boring, but I kind of like that.

And it was probably something that just started just the other day, right? When you saw those accounting stickers. The accounting crew? And then you paid your tuition and started going to the class already. Is that what it was? Yeah, basically. They got you hooked. Nice.

It's just one of those things when the numbers all add up and you get the little checkmark at the end of the screen. I'm like, oh, yeah, I just did that. Oh, I wonder if we should get a forklift crew sticker made up. Ooh. Yeah, now, now and now. now that's hitting me. You're on.

I do have some, I have some, Morgan. I have some paper no questions. It's like, I usually, as a country, as a country,

we have to consume significantly less paper than we did 20 years ago. That's why Dundermifflin's out of business, right? But like, how, what is your biggest buyer of paper?

And like the people that like, do the old heads there say, oh, we used to do a million times more 20 years ago, Sonny. And like, I can just,

I can't imagine, like, there's that much more paper being created today. But maybe there is just the population's up and there's just random pamphlets of shit, but like, I assume it had to be more. You're thinking of that kind of paper. Oh, yeah, I don't know what you do.

Yeah. Toilet paper, paper towel. Okay. That's in tissues. They're running out of that. People are shitting more than ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Okay.

Yeah. So that's what we make at where I work at. So, like, if you see Bronny, that's, we make that. Okay. You make all the Costco stuff. Yeah, I'd white my answer to that every morning. Yeah. Angel soft.

everything like that. So that's what we make. There's another mill in another town about 20 minutes away. They make all of that kind of paper that you're talking about. Gotcha.

I am curious though. So is it just like you guys just have like loads of like extra? Like are you guys Brian? You're not buying like fucking like raw lumber. You're just buying like wood chips and grind like how does one make? Okay, walk me through. I want to know how a roll of toilet paper is made.

How did an elite FTS, special roll of toilet paper get made. Ooh. And like under a minute. If it's a little more than a minute, we don't have to go there. I'm just curious.

I've never had a guy that would know this. It's all about, so you have this giant pulper basically, right? Because everything gets reused. You have this giant pulper. Not toilet paper. What was that? Not toilet paper.

That's not being reused. I mean, if you don't make it right, then it can be. Okay. There's a seat. There's a secret cat capture thing in our sewage system. It just goes. Yep. We're going to reuse that.

So from my understanding as the forklift driver at the paper mill, I know that you get a bunch of this loose paper that we've already made, but can't use or reprocessing it. You put some other chemicals in it. It goes in this giant machine that spins a bunch and makes paper. And then it goes into one of our converting machines. and that's when they cut it up, make the rolls. I don't know. Very interesting.

Yeah. I like, I like knowing how shit's made and whatnot. Well, yeah, shit tickets are made. Good deal.

You don't work at Dunder Mifflin or whatever it's called? No, unfortunately, I do not. I don't, under Mifflin. So what's, what's,

how far in the accounting process are you? I'm almost done with my associates. It's one of those things where I have my GI Bill. I can't give it to any dependents if I have them because you have to do 10 years into service. I did seven. So it's like, oh, if I don't use it, it's going to go to waste. So there's a school online that I take one class.

Sometimes I take two. You can't. It's always too easy right now. So you're just going to be not only the strongest forklift driver, but also an accountant who has. happens to drive forklift, like it's the smartest forklift driver? The strongest forklift driver within the accounting degree. Yeah, you can't fight that niche.

Nope. So now I am going to veer off from work because this is not the work podcast. It is the crew podcast. I've been saying that since pretty much day one. I said Keith roll his eyes there. Well, it's because you tell a 10-minute story about yourself and then try to make it sound like me asking about paper for fucking two seconds. No, that is not what I did.

I asked a hundred questions and realized, wow, we've been talking about work for a long time. That had nothing to do with you. Okay. Stop internalizing. Everything is fine. Let's talk about your power. Let's talk about your lifting history. When did it start?

Why did it start? Where does it end? Okay, yeah. This is actually a good one. I believe I was about 14 years old. Well, I was younger when my parents got the equipment. But we had this bench in our basement. it's one of those benches that has the attached lap pull-down with the attached leg extension all in one.

And the lap pole down never worked well with the leg extension. I was like, the bench, that's one thing that, you know, you can't really mess up a bench. And let's run about it. My mom used to walk on the treadmill all the time, and she had these little eight-pound, five-pound dumbbells, and she would just do side raises all the time. And so I remember one day she goes, all right, grab these and just hold them out as long as you can. I did. Man, the burn when you're like eight years old and you get this, you know, that burning.

I'm like, oh, my gosh. So, yeah, stop that for a while. But then we got this bench and I started, you know, I do a little bench in here and there. I'm only like 12, 13 years old at the time. But my dad, it was. He would get home from work and it was right next to our PlayStation. So at night, his way of relaxing is playing video games. Okay, yeah.

I'd go and I'd sit there and I'd bench press and he'd come spot me whenever I needed a spot. So I was out on a bike ride. We were on like a family vacation up at one of the lakes. And all my uncles are big like high school football players. they all talk about, oh yeah, we went to the state championship. Bench four or five in high school. Yeah, basically.

And I remember specifically my uncle saying if you can bench your body weight, you're strong. Like, all right, I'm 80 pounds. My goal at this time is to bench 80 pounds. And go, fine, I get up to 80 pounds. And then I just did 80 pounds for five.

And I'm like, oh, wait, I'm actually halfway good. So all I did was bench press. Starting at like 12, 13, obviously I'm still doing it. When I got to high school, I'm only one benching a plate. As a freshman, I was a cross-country runner, so no one else is. And yeah, so then now I, now I've done power lifting in the past, still dabble into it. I've competed at the American Pro 1 and then just some other local ones

but now I'm just big and a strong man for reference how old are you just because we know we're 21 at 12 okay so that was about a decade or yeah we're talking to a baby basically yeah

still been lifting longer than me and I'm twice a regional so sorry 1.7 times your age. I know this is a big accounting crew. Yeah, strong man's basically taken over now. I feel like for a lot of people it has. Yeah. Yeah, I'm getting the sense too.

I think there's still a lot of people who really love powerlifting and should continue to do it if that's what you want to do. But I also sense that people have been doing it for a very long time are kind of moving off of it. But that could also just be confirmation bias just based on the crew, right? because the crew, we, we, we, we, what's the word I'm looking for? We tend to like spear towards from fifth, well, let's not include outliers. I think we range anywhere from 45 to 30 is like your average age.

And then you have your younger and some people who are older. And I just think strong man eventually takes over. Powerlifting is kind of like the gateway drug to strong man. Very, yep, very good, yep. And a lot of the big time strong man. They hate on powerlifting. I'm sure everyone's heard. You know, oh, I can't just do squat bench, da, la, da, la, da.

Well, one of my issues with that is you got into this because you started out with powerlifting. Like, you wouldn't be here right now if you've never power lifted before, you know, in a sense. Maybe somehow you would have known strong, man, but, I mean, power lifting was your way in the probably most strengths. I know that how it was for me and for almost every other strong man I've told me. That's how it was for me. I think that's how it was for you, Keith. Yeah.

And I mean, not to say there's no, there's not no reason to hate on powerlifting, right? I do think that there are things right now to look at and be like, things could be different, things could be better. But yeah, I know that we spent, and we rightfully, me and Keith both got called out for kind of hating on powerlifting a little bit a couple weeks ago. And I simply asked the Discord because I know you said you're not active. I was just like, well, here's what I think.

And everybody gave me very many different perspectives where I can now say, like, I've calmed down a bit on my hatred of powerlifting. Will you ever see me doing it again? No. But at the same time, it's kind of like, hey, I should have known better for myself to be like, if it works for you, keep doing it. Shut up. Joey, shut up, right?

let people enjoy things. And yeah, I think you're right there. Is that just because I don't want to do it, doesn't mean nobody should. Do I think that if powerlifting is your only goal, keep doing it, but if you have other goals, if you have functional strength in mind, if you have all of these other things in mind,

then I think you should probably start looking at other things. Because, you know, who is it that said it? I think I've said it before. Every strong man can power lift, but not every power lifter can strong men. Right? Yeah. I mean,

there's people who can bench 405, but can barely overhead press 225. Yeah. Yeah. I said that on somebody's Instagram post recently, where somebody was like, if you can't bench 225, you might as well be a woman.

And then I just said, great, let's go lift this natural stone. Yeah, right. Right? Like, that's how you want to act. But again,

you shouldn't be focusing on single niche lifts if your idea is to be strong. do things that make you strong, but let's not focus on one, two, single lifts. Yeah. Right. How does that really shitty schedule of yours affect your training and just life in general? Because I couldn't deal with that. And to caveat that, like, do you at least get a, like, a couple week notice?

Or is it like a, like, do you have your month schedule or like, how often do you get your days switch without knowing it kind of thing? So it's every, we call it blocks. So, like, I work, I, I'm going to be working Saturday, Sunday, Monday days. Then I'll be off Tuesday and Wednesday. Then I work Thursday, Friday night. So I'm off days and nights switch off every time. Yeah. Which is pretty crappy.

But I feel like compared to my other jobs, I have more time off. Okay. Because, like, this last weekend, I head off. Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and I went in Tuesday night because I worked Thursday and Friday days. So it's kind of hard to explain unless you actually do it. But does the training get affected pretty harsh? Because like one day you're consistently training in the morning,

other days, consistently training at nights? So I don't train the days I work. I only, so like I got off work this morning and now I don't go back until the weekend. So I did train today because I didn't technically work today, which is a little hard because when you work nights, you don't really sleep very much afterwards. Everyone's morning long right now or doing project.

But since I'm off during the week, I have time. So it's like I can spend like two hours training for two or three days in a row. typically I don't train more than two days in a row anyways. Yeah. Makes sense. Yeah. So just finding the time, finding the schedule that works, and I think I kind of found it. I don't train five days a week like how I'd like to, but doing what I can.

And another thing is just basic, I'm sure you guys both know, taking the good days when they're there. That's been my biggest thing. strike why the iron's hot. Like it's just, you know, I know it's going to be there that day. That's when I take advantage of it. Even if it's like a week before or a week after when I should have like peaked or something in prep, it's just kind of like, you know, if I've like, like, there's multiple times where it's like, I know I have to travel like for work or something.

And like, okay, I'm going to hit my heavy set this week because I know I'm not going to get a good set in the hotel gym or on the road. So. Yep. And also just backing down when knowing when you shouldn't be lifting heavy. Mm-hmm. as time goes on you both know you figure it out oh yeah

it's always a work in progress what happened that would be what I miss oh just talking about train taking the good days when you can hell yeah so what brought you back to Wisconsin then family or just does that uh was that was that you said you were you said you lived in a few different places right yep uh me my wife we moved to Utah when I got all of the Navy she got a job out there.

Cost of living was ridiculous. Good to know. So I was like, well, I'm not willing to pay a $4,000 mortgage at any point in my life. Whoa. That's crazy for even up here.

Yeah. Like it's like realistically, it probably be like 35, but still a crazy amount. So I was like, all right, well, we got it either. like bite the bullet and pay that if we ever want to buy a house or you know let's move to Wisconsin we can be by family again and it's way cheaper here and I my wife is a saint she's

an amazing woman she had a great job in Utah but she she made the move for me and I was all right sweet and now we're here it's good to get the moving while you're dinks, you know, so it's easier for the future. I was explaining to Morgan now that busy as a dink has made its way into crew parlance. And none of us even disagree with it anymore. We all just know what it means. I got to start saying that more now. Yeah, as busy as a dink.

And I told her about when I said that, when Keith, you said, busy by choice, not obligation. And I'm like, and still mad about it. And then I was like, I was like, I was mad at first. I was like, oh, you kind of got me. I was like, I was trying to jab at people that have, like, I was trying to just kind of say, fuck you to everybody. And then you kind of got me back.

Yeah, I was like he liked it so much. He screenshotsed it and shared it on his personal. It was pretty funny. It was pretty good. Oh, the. All right. I mean, I got to say if I had a dollar for every crew that liked to barbecue or smoke meats, I'd be being paid.

I'm surprised I didn't see a bassist in here. Yeah, I'd be paid for this podcast at this point. Yeah. I don't know how much I can get into that thing, but like. It's, I'm sure it's the same as everybody else as I consider myself a backyard barbecue pit, master. Really, I'm not a pit master. I have a pellet growth.

That's an electric. You got the green bullet? Yeah, it's a fancy one. I can control it from my phone. Oh, I have seen those. Those are dope. Yeah, not anything fancy. Tell me how to say your wife's name.

Julissa. That's how I read it. Oh, right. I was right for once on something. Yep. Right again, Joey. It's not a common one. No, no, it's not.

but like it looks how it sounds right so oh 100% it does yeah okay okay Keith do you see anything you want to get into it is almost 830 like we've been going a while we can do game not uh what did you yeah I have in the name yeah I was gonna say I have one that I've been meaning to ask and I think I might add it into our like original games what's your favorite muscle to train

if you had to point to single muscle. Because like, almost everybody knows that I love training my traps. I love having big traps. If I walk by a mirror, the first thing I do is one of these and I go, it's still there. I love you, little guy. Do you have that? There's nothing better than a good chest pump.

Hell yeah. Oh, do you pack bounce at people? Come on. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I do it all the time. My wife will be talking to me. Should be telling me a story? And I'll just be standing there, peck bouncing.

She's like, I know. Can you stop? I can see it. No, I recently started doing when I was benching triple pauses. So you pause before the chest, on the chest and after. Ew. And it was a good way. Like, it went a good way.

Like, yeah, that sounds awesome. It's a gnarly chest and tri-pump. and I have probably a couple more weeks of doing it, and I think it's going to be the thing that shoots it up. Hell yeah. Okay, so tell me about what Mike's way at Jimmy Johns is. Oh, I have a... Jeez. Yeah.

That's not funny or embarrassing facts, FYI. And the look on his face was like, what asshole fucking told someone this stupid, embarrassing story. So let's hear that stupid, embarrassing story. Yeah. So everyone knows of Mike's Way at Jersey Mikes. Oh, yeah, that I didn't actually know that. I don't think I've ever gone to, like, Jersey Mikes.

You never been to Jersey Mikes? Maybe. So what is, what is Mike's way? Is that just like, just getting the works on it on you? Okay, okay. The whole nine years. That's it. My wife likes Jimmy Johns.

And, yeah, Jimmy John. Yeah. especially when they sell their bread at night and you can use it just buy plain loaves of bread. I don't know if they have that by you. No, I know that. Yeah. Basically, they sell all their leftover bread at the end of the day.

Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. All right. So, but yeah. In line, getting a sub.

I'm in line, like, hey, Melissa, what do you want from Jimmy Johns? Oh, I'll get, you know,

whatever she wanted. And she said, get it Mike's way. Cool. Gotcha. Minline at Jimmy Johns. Oh, yeah, I'll take whatever, whatever. Can I get it at Mike's way, please?

She's like, get it what? I'm at Jimmy Johns. Oh, no. And I panic ordered then, and I just said, all right, just put everything on it. And it just was aiden. That's really funny. That's a disaster. Wait, so did your wife set you up or she just wasn't thinking?

I don't think she was just thinking right. Okay, because I was like, yeah, does she send you an advance? auto to ask for, you know, blinker fluid and stuff. Is that what that was? That actually makes me second guess if she actually did or not. I guess someone's having a serious conversation when they get off the call tonight. Yep. Big Keith.

Yeah, big Keith, put on in my head. Yeah. I'm on to you now. All right. My other one I wanted to hit on was, so you were trying to be a fitness instructor in the Navy, and they just said you weren't good enough. Yeah, I saw that. What?

Yeah. What? Basically, I forget at the time what it was, but I mean, I was pretty fit when I was in. It wasn't that long ago. And I was like, oh, yeah, like they said they needed people. They said, hey, like, if you want to be one of the instructors, come do this. You just got to talk to this guy. He'll get you set up.

Sweet. Everyone's telling me, go do it, go do it. And for reference, I was a cook in the Navy. so I'm not around the most physically fit people there are because even though there are fitness standards, they're not super, you know, strict about a lot of it, as strict as you would think from the general public.

So I did, I went to the guy, and he's like, you? No, you can't do it. I was like, what are you talking about? I'm like, I'm benching 400 pounds. here like I passed all my test he goes um that you didn't run fast enough what oh all right and this is already after I already volunteered and like helped out at something like the trainings and I was like you know what I'm not going to do it anymore I'm done yeah I gave up on

that on that try well and it's like yeah I get it that there's like stand and stuff, but like if you are low on people and you need people to help out, I'm sitting here volunteering. Yeah, and I'm jacked and strong. Yeah. That's pretty wild. The guy that was running was just a dick and I want to waste my time anyway. I just watched some video of some kid with a bag of gumball screaming into a microphone. Who is that?

What is that? Yeah, that was me. Oh, did you look up the I sure did, Keith. Oh, yeah, when I was younger. I can tell because it was 16 years ago, Keith, I'm going to send you this video. That's funny.

Yeah, me and my buddy thought it would be funny to make a YouTube video, but he didn't want to be in it. So he's like, just start doing stuff. And being the goofy kid, and I was like, why at the time, I ate a bunch of gumballs. That was my thing.

I had a little gumball machine at my house, and I would go through bags, bags and bags of gumball. Because you would chew them for 30 seconds and spit them all and grabbing the ones. Yeah, because they were garbage. Yeah. And off the spot,

I came up with this guy named Jojo the gumball guru. And, yeah, it was just an absolutely horrible video. And actually, there's other videos to go along with it. There's a video of me, um, armpit farting to, to slow ride the song. And then, yeah, it's...

You know I'm going to watch the hell out of all of these. I don't know exactly. It's about the similar name. I think it's still Jojo, but I don't know exactly how to find it. Is it all uploaded by this watermelonzillas person? Yeah, yeah, it is. Yeah.

And that's at the time, too, where it took us days to upload this video. Of course, yeah. Yeah. Looks like it was shot on a potato. I got to say the whole time, not the whole time, but part of the time you were talking about

the fitness instructor stuff, I'm watching this video going, what? It makes no sense. I love that it's in there. You put it in. I did, because it's one of those things

not many people know about me, but I'm like, yeah, true, let's let it out to the world. Yeah, we'll let 800 people know about it. I'm sure it won't escape us. No.

Yeah. You're going to go into work and there's just going to be people handing you bags of gumballs and you're like, ah, fuck, you guys listen. So, Keith, this year for crew falls,

bring a bag of gumballs. Yep. I bring my machine we could put it in and just have the joy of spinning. That's part of the fun. It's just spinning and having them, pop out and like, well, eyes will eat them.

I remind me, everyone bring their quarters to Massonomic gym this year so they can get stickers because I think we were all there last year and no one had any damn quarters. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think I need to get stickers made because I think there's going to be a fun thing involving me again. I don't know if Skeleton Joey's coming this year, but I'll be there in spirit in some way.

I did like that Jake and Abby had posted. There will be another unpaid and underrated keg. They're going to do stickers on it, but it's going to be more like bring your sticker and put it on in person. If you're not going to be there, you can mail some stickers, but I think the main thing was like, they did want people to have like the cool. experience of slapping a sticker on it in person. So we'll be sure to take care of that. If anyone's coming, make sure you bring plenty of stickers.

Yeah, Mikey should be there. It's not too far away. Yeah, he'll take the for lunch and he'll just fucks off on a Saturday on a... On a counterbalance. It comes back two days later. All right, Big Mikey, you familiar with Fuck Merry Kill? A little game we like to play here every now and then.

Yes, I am. All right. So I'm going to go, I like this one. So TV shows. FMK, modern family, the middle,

King of Queens. Modern family, the middle King of Queens, FMK. Yeah. Some of these shows there. Very decent. For anyone who doesn't know,

these are pretty, what kind of category of TV shows would you put these in? They're just sitcoms. Sitcoms, yeah. These are shows that we basically just, for just sitting around, like, working or on our phones,

we have it playing in the background. Let's see. The King of Queens, Mounted Family in the middle. Have you guys seen them? Yes. Not the middle. The middle I'm the least familiar with.

I'm pretty sure I have seen it, because isn't that the one where the janitor from Scroves is the dad? Okay. I've seen, like, more clips of that on probably Instagram than actual episodes. but I probably can picture like the three kids and the mom and dad and stuff, but like I don't think I've watched many episodes or maybe if I did it was a long time ago and it wasn't my vibe completely. But yeah, not a bad show probably, but just not.

I haven't concerned at all. If I had to go, let's go killing. If I had to kill one, I think I'd probably kill the King of Queens. It is a funny show. It's a very funny show. What? We don't do that here. had shouldn't I said that.

I didn't know that. Now I'm going to send a rabbit hole? I think she actually, well, no. It's because the main, the wife, but I think she's got, I think she's, she's like a big advocate against Scientology now, I believe. But she wasn't just for like years and decades. I had no clue. I could be a mistake. Yeah.

But we just talk about religion. I don't know why I did that. Wrong again, Keith. Nate, cut all that religion talk. Yeah. No cult talk on this podcast. So killing king of queens The whole time

Mike is a Scientologist And we just Fucking offended their shit out of them Yep I'm actually A forklift driver With a Scientologist degree That's a thing

Yeah Forklift to really help your feet Big science Yes Mity smart Let's see If I had to marry one I'm going to marry

Modern family One because Sophia Varega is in it Can confirm yeah and why want you and also it's hilarious Phil Dunphy

it's pretty nice yeah he actually owns a bar on Salt Lake City that we went to a few times that's cool there's bars in Salt Lake City not very many

a couple days a week yeah yeah you're empty so then that I'm fucking middle.

Nice. Which is still a good show. You got to give it a chance. Oh, I don't watch sitcoms in general, so. But I have seen a lot of stuff from Autumn Family. I know Ed O'Neill's character's freaking amazing. Yeah.

Yeah. Family's decent. That's a good one. Yeah. I don't have anything against them. It was long enough, too. You, like, follow. It's like 12-year-old kids or like 25 by the end of it, and they actually were like 12 when they started to. But it just ran for damn near a decade, probably.

Yeah, it's this three-camera sitcom business. I just, I find it hard to watch, but that's just, that's my sense of humor. Anyway, I guess it's my term. Yeah. Oh, this one's hard, because there's a couple of them here, and they're all, like, stuff we've had before. Like, top four country music artists. If you said Luke Bryan, you're getting kicked off right now. You don't want to wake up coffee.

Yeah. Hamo, Climb tree. I like this one. Let's do this one. Mount Rushmore, lifting hype songs. Ooh. As a lot of you know,

if you see my videos, you know I like to get pretty hyped up for my lifts. Okay. First one, I'm going with Freebird, the remix. There's a remix, like,

dubstep version of it. And it is pretty crazy. And I'm going to actually I'm going to put like a backslash in it and put the normal freebird if you start it at three minutes and 40 seconds. Yeah. Because that gives you just enough time to get your straps on or your wrist straps to when it gets about 420 the guitar solo starts. So that's one. Two.

Let's see. Ooh. Okay. I know that there's a lot of talk about the song Crazy Bitch by Buck Cherry. Oh, yeah. Funny story about it. I really like that song. Oh, I'm sorry.

It's hilarious. In one of my power lifting meets, we got to pick a song for our last attempt for each lift, and it was the same song. That was a song I picked. So I'm going with that for number two. I'm sure you won't hear about that. No, not at all.

And it's hilarious because it's like every third attempt I'm hearing crazy bitch. I'm like this is hilarious. Let's see. The next one. Let's go with Bos on Parade. Yeah, that's pretty, I hate to say, that's kind of standard. Yep. Yeah.

But, I mean, that song hits. I do that song at karaoke. Like, that song hits. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Number four, Thomas Sawyer. Really? Yeah.

Yeah. It goes crazy. it does when it's blasting oh yeah gotta have the music as long as it goes to yeah

yeah I'm on I'm on a monomartha kick obviously because I went and saw them and their music hits hard specifically put your back into the or that song is that hits good

lately I've been big into like a bunch of like the classic like 80s like cherry pie all that kind of stuff right now. You know what's funny about that song? Have you listened to Warren's other stuff? Okay.

No, I don't. Okay. They're a thrash metal band. Oh, yeah? And they made Cherry Pie as a joke. And the label made them be like, no, that's the one you're going to put out. And that's obviously like they're, that's not warrant. Is it?

No, no, no. That's not warrant. Is it? Yeah. I was right about something? All right. Not getting me today, Huck. Yeah, it's really funny because their stuff is really heavy.

And yeah, they were a thrash metal band, but the label made them put that song out. And then that's the one they got famous for. Yeah, if you like thrash metal, try any other warrants. Oh, yeah. Yeah, right now I'm big into those. I'm like, let's go crazy by Prince. Oh, absolutely.

Prince is always heart-hidden. I have this thing now. When I meet somebody new, the first thing I asked them is their favorite meatloaf song. It's weird because people look at you like, are you? The band meatloaf. I don't know you heard. The band, the guy meatloaf. Oh, got you.

Yeah, yeah. Like, what's your favorite meatloaf song? And then look at you like, I don't, I don't know. And like, for some reason, that's a judge of character to me. I'll just be like, yeah, you should know that. I don't know why. I'm just like, you should know what your favorite meatloaf song is. Uh, yeah.

So I see what you're saying, like getting into some of that older, uh, older stuff there like that. Uh, balls to the wall. That's all that song. Oh, that's weird. That up. I heard that song on my way to work yesterday. For the first time ever?

Oh, no, no. Oh, okay. A long time. Yeah. Um, same with the song. I think it's called Epic. Yeah. Faith no more.

Yes. I heard that, that one just pop back up. Um, there's a radio station out here that plays all those classics. and I think that's where I'm getting all my inspiration from right now. Keith, what's your favorite meat love song? Isn't there a bad out of hell or something? But probably that, I don't know, that I would do anything for love?

I don't know if I made more than those. There's a baseball song in there somewhere, maybe. Oh, my God. That song's about getting railed in the strawberry field, to be honestly. It kind of, Paradise by the Dashboard Light is, that's actually almost the same. I just said a quick little thing here. I had a quick pro.

I put myself on mutinated protein bar because I was starving. And I went to go throw the wrapper away in an old teacup, like an old plastic or a paper cup. And it had that, that's a tea I've talked about before, the Stephanie drinks that's for stomach. I can think of it, but it's basically like for,

for GI issues. And it's probably been in here for a week or two. And my God, the smell of ammonia essentially that came out of the cup. I about, like, I almost puked. It was so, And now I'm just like sitting here with this bottle of ammonia. And like part of me wants to smell it again just for like the,

the gluttonous or the, you know, self, self-hate, I guess. Yeah. It's just like, oh, I just know I have this like kill, kill cup over here that would like just wake me up. And I don't know. Yeah. I bet the video of that. Yeah, I was funky. Okay.

I mean, the last thing before we kind of get into the round this out, if you don't mind. So I would just have to ask, do I have one of your stickers? Yes. Yes. Which one is that? The one that says, the bar gym. Yes, I do. I do have that one.

Thank you. I got it wrong. Yeah, I'm at a point now, honestly, like, this is my bag of stickers waiting to go on the magnet sheets over there. And, yeah, we don't, I know, like, we touch on it, and it kind of comes up in passing. But it looks like you're, it says, somebody made a point of saying that you really like trading home gym stickers. What is it that excites you? Because this is like such a, I've explained this to normies.

And they're like, I don't get it. Yeah. So like, what is it? What is it that's making all of us want to do this? Like, it's essentially, we're all pen pals who just exchange stickers. Some of us include notes. Some of us don't. But we're literally just like nerds from all over the world getting stickers printed and sending them to each other.

What is it about it that you think is making us all so excited about it? I think it's one of those things where, so a lot of us around each other, like personally, we don't have, we have this niche thing that we're all interested in, home gyms, right? not many other people do you find this community of people who all have the same interests as you it's just kind of fun to interact with those people on

more than just you get a it's a different kind of I don't know if satisfaction is the right word but like messaging on Instagram cool fun yeah cool and all you're talking to them but actually sending each other's stuff

that kind of puts you on like the like a different level almost like it's all about damn near yeah um it's a community thing i think like it's we're all part of the same community then we all have the same interest and it's it's been really cool my whole bar because like every like in um how are you how are you displaying them like in um i have a blank on the name from the two youtube videos ago the Wisconsin home gym tour Or maybe three. Yes, big Katie.

She has a bar in her basement. Every Wisconsin basement. Oh, yeah. Is that what your base that looks like? Yep. Do you have wood paneling in your house somewhere? What is that? Do you have wood paneling in your house somewhere?

Of course I do. That was the other big selling point for Wisconsin basements, right? Yep. The shitty carpet, I think. Yep. I have mine laid out all on my bar. So when I have people come over, we don't really hang out in the basement, but they like to see my gym because, like I said,

no one really has one. And they all look at it. They're like, what are all these stickers and notes you have here? I'm like, oh, that's everybody else who has home gyms for a part of the community. Do you have them under a glass then? Or are they just like sitting on the bar? Sitting on, but I don't take the back off them. so they're not to get me stuck.

Yeah, yeah. I do plan on doing like a display or something at some point. So I'm not the only one who also saves the notes. I have all the notes. I've literally saved every note. But I have them. Yeah. Okay, good.

I'm not the only. I'd like to think that the pictures of dicks I've mailed out to a few buddies. They still have those. And not pictures of hand drawn poorly, poor, poor character. Poorly drawn penises on. What they? Yeah. Were you looking at my camera when you said that?

I was just like, you fucking did what? I was so concerned. I did not mail all the red to my penis out. It's just like if it's someone I've known for years or like if you just tell you, I have that kind of, you know, camaraderie with someone. I'm just like, you're going to get a picture of a random dick on the back of this. Thank you card. Oh, okay, yeah.

The look on my face must have been pure terror. I was like, what? where did you get that sticker from? Yeah. And I've gotten the best was like getting the dicks back. Somebody else sent me a bag of gummy dicks. I can't remember who it was. Have we ever figured out who sent you the bag of bony dicks?

I don't know that either. But someone did send me like the most in-depth. I'm talking about it here. It was like a full construction size paper like a dick and it was the funniest thing ever. I think I've narrowed down the gummy dicks to three people. But it's rare that I don't know because what people like to do. is tell me. It's really tasty.

I could take this again. Those were good. I bet you could. Yeah, but, like, they'll, people's favorite thing to do

is mess with you and then tell me so that, like, I kind of have a note. That person did not tell me. So that's weird. Yeah.

That's weird. If you're listening, and it was you, go ahead and tell me. I promise I won't tell Keith. That was like two and a half years ago, I think. Yeah.

They probably forgot. That was, it was Stephanie, like the whole fucking time. It was, just fucking ass. Yeah. It was your wife.

She's just like, fuck you. I mean, they were from the state of New York. So it doesn't mean that's where they were. Could take it days to get there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm surprised that they actually showed up by now. All right. I got some affiliates for you guys.

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Those are my inner dialogue. And monologue dialogue. I'm still still not sure on that one. Inner monologue, because it's only you. And I was just like, because like the way he says it is like, do you want anything else? But like you would think if like someone's getting ready to get like, are you offering it to me for free? Because I'm here to buy this. I'm not going to just buy other random shit at like your list price.

But like, I was like, oh, how much you went for the, you know, the barboresky brush. And he was just. I guess you can have it because no one's going to, like. So it's not. the easiest item to sell on Facebook marketplace locally. So it's a consumable, right? I was like, it will definitely go to a good home in my house to have a second one.

So, uh, I was too pretty stoked about that. The worst part about it, the most unpaid thing about that night for me was the two stall mats I got off of him. He had duct taped like all four corner, like all four like sides completely with like, and like several years ago. But it must have been like the most adhesivey duct tape ever because I ripped all the duct tape

off and like, so like the face came off of it, but all the adhesive was stuck. So I'm just sitting there like, motherfucker. And I, like, it worked. It was okay on like the one place where I did a seam, but I didn't want to see him at the other side.

And now I was like, I have this like, just tacky shit all over. Alcohol. Just get straight up alcohol. Yeah. But I spent a lot of time, like, just being super annoyed about that. So I was like, I guess I didn't get that good of a deal on them with all this elbow grease I had to invest in it. But code unpaid barbell rescue.

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And Big Mikey, unpaid or underrated. Game you're familiar with. I know you haven't made it this far in the podcast, or we will have to explain this. Okay. So Tanner and Tommy a long time ago and they has to have guests. They played unpaid. Nope, they paid. They played overrated or rated. You know, we, we, we revamped that. So we play, we play unpaid. So unpaid equals overrated. Nobody wants to be unpaid. And underrated is great. So unpaid or underrated. That's the game. Let's see what I got for you. Unpaid or underrated. Being bald. Underrated. I haven't paid for a haircut in a long time. Love it. And with the prices of haircuts going on right now, It is ridiculous. I know people were paying about $45 for a haircut. Yeah. And I ain't about that anymore. I used to have.

I see you could have hair, right? Or are you both in the back? Like, like, what is your hair in the back? A little bit in the back. I could have hair if I really wanted to. My wife said after a wedding, I can shave it off. Nice. Do you do you pick it or do you have one of those recharge?

ones that take it down pretty low. Yep, I got a rechargeable. And then if I'm feeling extra fancy, I'll take my razor in the shower and I'll just kind of get a quick go-around. All right. Unpaid or underrated breweries.

Unpaid or underrated. Unpaid. I would, if you asked me about five years ago, I would say underrated now with being in Wisconsin and I can go to a bar and buy a

Bush life for two bucks. I don't have to go and spend $8 on a craft beer that isn't very good anyways. The only good part about them is the settings. They're typically pretty nice. You sit outside

and they have games and stuff, which is cool. But for the sole purpose of spending that amount of money on beer and typically their food there is way overpriced. Yeah. And I ain't about that anymore. Good deal.

All right. Normally I would do three. I'm going to do four here just because there wasn't a comma or a inters. Like these two weren't separated. And I looked at the four words for like 30 seconds, trying to figure out what the fuck it meant. So this is two separate things. But I just imagine I looked at it for almost a minute not being an understanding. So it was going on walks mopeds.

And I just read that fucking like five times in my head. Yeah. Okay. I saw that too. It was just like. be a space there. Like there has to be an inter, like,

so I just hit enter and it made a lot more sense because then it was going on walks, new column mopeds. So unpaid or underrated, going on walks. Unpaid. I don't think enough people do it. And it's pretty relaxing,

actually, especially on a nice morning when it's nice and cool. I just think the, I wouldn't say, I'm not the healthiest person ever, but I like to think that they are actually very good for your health, both mentally and physically.

Like, I think a lot of people can get a lot out of them. Yeah, I think everything should walk more. Outside, away from your phone, just, it's peaceful. See, I like a, I like a podcast walk. Like, I'll do a walk with my wife with that one and stuff, but I'm walking by myself, like, especially, like, I don't, I live, you know, city adjacent. So it's not quiet.

around here. So I much rather listen to a podcast or a book tape why I walk because I don't get any peace. Like I'm not getting any peaceful moments like in my neighborhood. If I go for a quick walk, if I'm going in the woods or something, that's different. But I'm going to walk around the blog.

I should have said as not looking at your phone. Yeah. I'm by myself. So I'm putting a podcast in or something. Absolutely. How else do you count your steps for Pokemon Go? You got to have your phone in your pocket. You got to.

And then, uh, and then just rapid fire going on walks slash. opads. So mopeds. Underrated. Super good on gas. Yeah. Rapid fire. Awesome. Awesome. All right. I'm all set. And I think you might have said that going on walks were unpaid and you meant underrated possibly.

Yes. Sorry. You're good. No, no. I just wanted to clarify. Because it was like, wait, he said, we are keeping track. Positively about them for, for a minute. These are unpaid. I love them. So the most unpaid things ever. I'm so happy. Yeah.

Don't pay me. Yeah. Weird thing, like weird kind of side tangent about breweries. I would actually say the exact same thing. Well, five years ago, breweries were all the rage. I wish they all weren't the same. They are. Yeah.

Have you heard them live, though? Yeah. Yeah, I guess. They all have the same aesthetic. They all have the same chairs. They all have the same, you know, If you happen to get lucky and know the owners or something, like things can be a little different because you know who you're supporting.

So it kind of changes the vibe. But yeah, most, there's one brewery in a place called Bath, Ontario, which is out near Kingston, Ontario, which is in between here in Ottawa. And it's my favorite brewery because it's a farm that was converted. So when I used to go, when I'm talking nine years ago,

the chicken coop was their bottle shop. they had a single barn with two vats. They had their fridge was blasted out of the bedrock underneath the farm. And that's where they kept all their kegs cold. Like that was, that was the coolest shit. Right? Like their yeast came from the breadmaker up the street.

Like their ingredients came from everybody around. That was so cool. And then you go out there now and they're like, oh, we just built this giant warehouse full of 2,000 liter, your vats and like, you're not that different anymore, right? Like now you have all the same stuff. Yep.

Yeah. We do have a question from the, from the lab audience here. Big Big Jeff saw on Discord, I think the portraits behind you and just wanted to know about the dog portraits. Oh, yeah. The historical dogs.

Yeah. I forget the website, but those are, well, Coach Harre is the only one that's still with us. the other two made it all of the rainbow bridge, but basically just put their face on whatever little character thing you want. And Margaret, the one on the left, she was the queen of the house.

She was 17 years old, so she got whatever she wanted. Absolutely. And then, yeah, the other two, I just, Hardy's just a little goober. So I think she's like, I don't know what that is, like the Duchess or whatever. Yeah. And then Jack Jack is the spaceman. Oh, that's cute.

Very cute. Good. That was a good call reading out that question. It took me a second to like see what he was. I was like, wait, does he post a bunch of on Instagram that I didn't catch? And then like I looked up and was like, oh, there are three dogs behind his. Like I did see them all night, but I didn't register what he was talking about. Okay, my turn, unpaid or underrated.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah. Some of these have already been done. It's the fucking worst. Yep. I love it. Yeah. Now I'm confused.

Damn it. Unpaid or underrated social media. Now confused. Unpaid. I think it's, I, there's a lot of benefit to it, but I think people are on it too much.

Sometimes I find myself on it too much. I try to limit how much I go on it. And sometimes I'll just delete the app and not go on it for a long period of time. So I think people can use, a lot of good with not using it as much. Okay. Follow up and Keith feel free to answer this as well. Is Jim Radar social media? It wasn't, but it is now.

It can be, I don't know. I got them. It's so, it kind of rides the line there. It does. Who was that character we created? Surge others. Yeah, it's kind of search. Yeah, we've got to use my search.

others and ride too many asses with horses and shit, but that's a I mean, I'm going to say you know, but once it becomes, once it becomes an once it becomes an app, then it is. It won't be an app, but because you can't directly

DM someone, but now the, I think it has to be considered social media for the sense that you're putting yourself out there. You could literally post pictures of yourself in every one of the gym photos if you wanted to. So like, I don't know, like compare it to what does it compare to? Like, Pinterest, is social media like is like anything where you can post something about yourself which your gym is

about yourself is jim radar the Pinterest of jim social media it's for sure adjacent but is it i don't know i i'd nate'll get mad but that might be something we asked ai i'm not gonna do that no that's i just ask nate oh i can i don't trust nate okay um um unpaid or underrated. I think I know where this is going. Shirt sleeves. I haven't seen one on them yet. Unpaid.

Hell you. Yeah. I'm not tall. I'm only 5 foot 5. And I'm not small. So if I buy an extra large shirt, it usually fits pretty well, but the sleeves can get tight.

If I buy a large shirt, it's way too tight. So I'm kind them off. no doubt about it. I think it's also one of those things that, like, from my first inspiration being Huck, always being sleeveless, I bought all of his stuff without sleeves on.

I'm like, well, yeah, I'm not wearing him no more. Karen cut everything. I finally got a Karen cut shirt, and now every time I cut sleeves off, I literally just put my Karen cut shirt on and trace it. Yep, yep. Because whatever she's doing, she's doing the best. I know it says Huck Finn cut,

but we know it's Karen. Yeah, actually, I got some, shirts from work. No one calls it a hook, Ben cut. Even if it's on his website, it's Karen. I got some work shirts, and they're like, oh, yeah, here you go, free shirts. Right, because they're just shirts you can wear to work,

so you don't have to wear your good shirts to go and lift stuff up. And I'm like, you know these sleeves are coming off. My boss is like, yeah, I know. Yeah, my work does not allow us to wear sleeveless. What? Yeah, I think it's because we, make food products, like food, like a restaurant. Yeah, yeah, you can't have

armpit hair and shit like that going in food. Yeah, I get it. Like my beard can't be any longer than what it is now. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Unpaid or underrated. I'm interested in this one, to be honest with you, uh, strength coaches.

Ah, yeah. I'm going with unpaid. Mm-hmm. I think there are, everyone's a strength nowadays. I mean, there's so many, everyone's a DME for coaching or fill this out, whatever, whatever. I know way too many people where they would get a program, yada, yada, yada. The next week, same thing, but RPE next one up. anyone can write that.

And with the amount of knowledge on YouTube or anywhere that you can get, I mean, anyone can write their own program nowadays. I think a lot of the reason why people are getting coaches is because, oh, I'm paying for this. I'm going to actually follow a program. Yeah.

Which is fine. And that works for me, right? I'm not going to disagree with you or agree with you, but I'm saying that works for me. I pay for juggernaut and make sure I use it. I've used it before and I liked it. I really did. But what I found for myself personally what would happen is I'd go through like two,

three weeks and then it would be like benching like sets of aid or whatever. But I'm like, man, I just want to go heavy today. I want to do like a heavy double. Cancel my, cancel my membership, delete the app. I'm done. I'm doing my own thing. And it's just an endless cycle of that. But I don't know if I really,

I guess I'd kind of consider that a strength coach. But that's kind of a little different. It's literally just AI programming, right? It's not. I think I see what you're saying because I do, I find that there's a lot of coaches who have coaches. And at that point, it's like, I can understand like some people doing that.

but all of them do. And then you have to wonder, are you just selling me the same program you're getting set to my percentages? Is that all you're doing? Right. Now, if you're seeing your coach in person, you know,

every once in a while and not just like sending them videos and them being like, good job, you know, that's different. But online, I just think that there's way too many, not scams,

but, people taking people's money. Yep. Yep. That's a thing I have thought about a lot recently. Coaches who have coaches selling me coaching. Like, it's like,

well, I'll just go to your coach. Like, what do I need you for at that point? Right? Like, then you have to kind of wonder, like,

what are you here for? Anyway, I could be wrong on that. Yeah, please feel free to tell me I'm a fucking moron for that, but it's weird. Reach out to Big Mikey

on Instagram for his personal coaching. You know, he's available. Yeah. He's three spots. Give me your money. For personalized coaching. Comment strong on all of his posts.

Code unpaid. He'll save you 10%. He's got to give us 10% back. Yeah. Okay. And I think my last one, we've done enough. Unpaid or underrated. Having a cuck chair in the gym.

I got two of them. Oh, man. One free chand. I was going through your gym radar. Like I said earlier, now on every episode, I pull up your gym radar profile. The fuck is this weird yellow chair doing here?

Yeah. Underrated big time. First of all, the chairs are super comfy. And like, you need them. You do need a chair of the gym, yep.

You need a gym and I'm not just going to use like a, I'm not going to sit on my bench if I got a nice, comfy chair there. Come on now. Okay, that was the reaction I was hoping for because that was borderline offensive. No. But I thought it was going through, you've only have three photos. Yeah, I don't.

So you passed unpaid and underrated. Amazing work. We can air this episode. Two things. You do not have enough photos. Hello, Scott. You don't have enough photos on Jim Radar and you have no reviews. Yeah, I know I'm slacking on that.

You don't like social media. You don't like social media. You're your fucking GHR, but, well, you got to get it on there first. Yeah, get that on there. That's a five out of five for sure. Yeah. You'll be the first DIY GHR, and you got to put a review up so you can tell everybody about this story. And maybe the only. Probably, yeah.

Surprise if Kevin didn't make some. Maybe this would be his inspiration. Oh, I think, like Joey said, you did pass. Did you have anything prepared for the guest that you wanted to pick our brains about? Yeah, I just got. a quick little question. Okay, you have, I'm just going to say the question. You guys can both answer.

Okay. It's not long or anything, so I know Joyce, I wake up at four. It's never behind him. It's fucking comes early. You have one workout left. You have one workout left before you're unable to lift weights anymore. What lift are you doing? Your very last one.

Fucking dead lifts. there is no reason to live if you cannot deadlift. That's my straight up easy answer. Yeah. I mean, as much as I've been loving strong man, like, it's squat 100%. It's all day, every day squat. Like, I even doing strong man and like I don't necessarily, I mean, I, I mean, a lot of strong men do squat, but like, I'm going to squat some variation one day a week for the

rest of my life. I don't really care. And I love squatting, the passion. So it'll be some type of squat. There's no reason to live if you cannot do squad. Fair. My buddy actually, my buddy that was selling his home gym off, he had that Paul,

that banner that he had made of the, you know, the quote you just said. He was like, oh, do you want this? And I was like, well, yeah, I'll take it. And I was like, oh, yeah, I'll take it. If you're giving it to me, I'll take it. You're going to have to throw all this shit out because you're getting, like, your apartment,

you have to be out of this apartment in like two days. It's not trying to sell me shit to me, but I'm not going to buy any shit from you. Yeah, it's saying do you want this makes me think, oh, it's going to be free. Yeah, I want it. Exactly. It was like, hey, you want this?

I'm like, yeah, that'd be great. And I was like, wait, I'm not, I'd know. Our transaction is over. Yeah. Once I say yes, it's mine. Price has not been discussed. It's mine now. Yeah.

I think it's for me, as much as I love doing some long, like overhead pressing has been my new joy. Like, I can't turn my back on squatting of some capacity. was that you always thing you were doing sandbag presses? I did that once. I'm just sure. I mean,

a lot of people do do it. I'm not good at it at all, and I can't really do it in the basement, but I think I did like a hundred pound bag or something or not even, whatever my, what are my light bag is? And I was like,

this sucks. But then I tried to get a bigger bag, and I hit the fucking ceiling, and I was like, I don't have a lot of patience for those either. Like, shouldering, I guess I'll save this.

I'll save this for the Stone episode. But, Apparently, shouldering stones is kind of a no-no in most historical stones. And apparently only Japan is where you're supposed to shoulder stones. Most stones are chest or pickup. So, yeah, the idea of pressing stones, unless they're your own personal stones, you probably shouldn't do that. Well, pressing. My buddy, I've got a lot of friends that go to Scotland and like half the stone lifts over there or to shoulder, I thought.

The shoulder is shoulders A bunch of them but oh you mean to press specifically Yeah yeah do not overhead press most of them do not drop them But I mean we'll discuss that when I do the stone episode That we discussed earlier I just don't know that there's a stone About an hour away along Lake Michigan that is like a Well like not historical stone but one of the guys in Wisconsin here

He made it like the Sheboygan Lake Monster Stone Yep And that you can You're supposed to shoulder order it, I guess. So yeah. Yeah. For what I'm learning, right, because I have all these friends who are in stones.

And Rebecca is, of course, a stone expert. I don't know if you guys have ever listened to the stone table. Listen to a few episodes. Once I'm done the massonomics backlog, I'm going to go listen to all of her episodes. And, you know, there are stone keepers. Like, apparently this historical stone thing is bigger than most of us think. Well, yeah. People don't like spend $10,000 to go to Scotland and Ireland.

and I mean, I'm sure there's places in North America as well, but like I said, I know multiple people that spend like their vacations to go lift fucking stones. Okay, but then those fucking dummies will travel to Scotland to the dinnies and do reps. You're not supposed to do reps because you can damage the stones doing reps. Makes sense. And but that's like a, that's a dick move, right?

So if you are traveling for historical stones and putting it out there now, make sure you check with whoever's the stonekeeper on what you're supposed to do. And it all comes down to a couple videos. that were released in the past couple of days of people shouldering stones and then throwing them. And these are historical stones and they're dropping them, right? So like thousands of, well, several hundred years old. Yeah, yeah.

Well, the rock itself is thousands of years old. The historical part might be hundreds of years old. But like, yeah, you don't pick up a rock and then throw it on the ground and go, yeah, I'm a big man. And then suddenly everybody's just like, no, now you're not allowed here anymore. Like it just... It's like the asshole that threw a rock at the fucking thing in home. Hawaii Beach there a couple months ago.

Yeah, exactly. So, anyway. Whatever sea creature that was. Oh, yeah, that dude, did you see him get knocked the fuck? Yeah, yeah. So, like a local punching him in there. He threw a rock. Do you know about this, Mikey?

Have you heard? No, I don't know about this. Uh, so he threw a, he threw a rock at an endangered seal. Yeah, that's what. And then, and then he got recorded doing it. And then somebody was like, what are you doing? And he's like, I'm rich. I can do whatever I want.

And they were like, okay, rich man. And they punched the, fuck out of them. And they're like, okay. But then he got arrested, not the guy that Yeah, that guy, they threw out his case. He was like, I'm charging with him assault. And they're like, nah.

You're an hour's terror. Yeah. Get out of here. You went to Hawaii and threw a rocket and an endangered species and said, I'm rich. I can do what I want. And got knocked the fuck out. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Don't care if you're morally right. The punch in the face is going to hurt.

No, hunched out. Those dudes are big out there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, go ahead and headbutt of Samo and see how that works. Oh, pass. Yeah, pass. All right, let's, should we bring this on in? Mikey will start with you.

Give me your Instagram, your Discord, and your Jim Radar page. Yep. You can follow me on Instagram at Power Bar 920. Discord is at Big Mikey Landcore. You can find me on Jim Radar with the Power Bar. Yeah. Thank you guys for having me on. Pleasure. Keith,

do we find, I don't know, I'm next. Or you want to do our, plug our Instagram on the website. I can do that. Go ahead, Keith. With my, with my handle or?

Yeah, yeah, no, you do your, oh, no, do mine. Yeah, you hit me, hit them with mine. No, I'm Keith Honey gets to Instagram. More importantly, go follow my orange gym than a wine seller.

And Joey will tell you about our Instagram, our website, Find us at Unpaid. See if you can do it all without. Unpaid internpodcast.com. Find us at Unpaid and Underrated on Instagram. I assume if you're listening, you probably already have. Me and Keith are both on Jim Rader.

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