Unpaid And Underrated - 162 : Knurled Chips

Episode Date: June 16, 2026

This week Joey and Keith get to know Big Will. They dive right into great topics like home gyms, the apps, playlists, warhammer, and science based lifting. Links Ü&Ü Hoodie Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab Get Your Own Keith Head Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast Our Guest On Instagram @bigwilllifts Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar @joey_mleczko Special Guest: Big Will.

And welcome back to episode 472 of the unpaid and underrated podcast, a podcast by crew for crew. I'm one of your host, Big Keith, joined as always by Big Joey. Hey, hey. And this week, we got a special crew friend, Big Will or Big William. We'll get into that a little later. I'm not really sure which one it is yet, but we'll go with Big Will for now. It's okay. I'm not sure either.

How's it going? That sounds fair. From what I read in the notes, it did seem like that was actually accurate. Uh, yeah, anybody drinking anything fancy this week? I got a nice glass of some mead over here. I think it's called Viking Blood. Of course it is. Of course it is.

Yeah, nice little honey wine. Very bougie, very fancy. I've never had meat. Is it, is it, like, I can, I assume it's thick, but is it actually, is it, like, heavy? Like, I guess how do you? It's just, like, wine, but kind of sweeter. And this one has, what, like, carbonated, though, right?

It's carbonated wine? No, this one is carbonated. They might be. I don't know. It's the only one I've had. I don't drink me. My wife loves it. And I had it like twice in my past and was like, no, that's not for me.

And is it, uh, is it normal to wash it down with some ice cubes? Like I see floating in your glass? Yeah. I know there's like wine snobs that might get offended by ice in a wine glass problem. Let them get to find out. They might be, they're meed snobs with ice. Mead snobs.

I don't hear them over here. Yeah. No, I'll get chilled. It's a, it's a wonderful experience. Not too bad. I do like a nice cold beverage, especially how hot it was today. I've got some rain. I got two ramblers.

I got the Rambler natural blend original, I guess, and then the, uh, the lemon lime I'll crack in later. I went with the tall boy first, uh, because there's like the running bit of, I can't ever get the, the, the, the can out of the strong and silly pipe. And Mofo always, you know, he sent me a video of him taking out a tall boy. And I'm like, well, that's different. You have like 50% more can to grab to get out. So I will report back into that in about a half hour or so. But yes, thank you, big Stephanie for getting me some early presents for the, uh, podcast.

I have delicious, delicious water. I, uh, yeah. I, maybe we'll get into a little bit of it right off the top. Um, I may have signed up for a competition. Nice. And it may be in a week. And I may have got an amazing dehydration arm cramp that makes me think I won't be able to do it. So we are hydrating the shit out of myself today.

You had an extra electrolytes too? Uh, not. Today, I think tomorrow, after I get my beard a bit trimmed, I'm going to swing by the Costco and start upping those electrolytes. I actually stopped taking them. So as much as I was telling everybody they're the best and you should always take them, I stopped because I was like, meh, I don't really see the difference. And now I see the difference. Well, now that we're getting in the summer and you're going to be working in that fucking warehouse sweating balls off, like maybe. And then if you're, if you find you're peeing too much too, I think I was it you I talked to about once?

Maybe somebody else that. I think I did I give you a salt tablet one to the bed of competition maybe? So look into that for for me, for anyone listening. Like if you're if you know you're dehydrated and cramp up at meets, but you can't really afford to go to the bathroom 75,000 times because you drank two gallons of water. Add in the capsule.

Yep. The electrolyte, like obviously drink water too. Don't just drink that and fucking die and then try to do it. Just take a salt tablet. You're fine. Oh, yeah. Additive. How does just do it.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they're big. They're big and strong. I'm excited to hear about the, you know, how that out, how that shakes out for you. You're first on some kind of competition in a while?

I'm 98% sure I'm doing it. Well, I was kind of in an impromptu competition, but I think we'll wait until that comes up a little more naturally. But no, I got water and just to offset the water, I do have a beer because it's Thursday. That's what I do. I wish it was, I had a stretch there where Thursdays were my Friday for like a month or two. Just because the way our schedule worked, they could basically work like six or four Monday through Friday. or Monday through Thursday that is, have Friday off. And I'm on a job right now for the next, like, two months.

It's basically going to be, like, 8 to 4.30. Yeah. I'm like, fuck this. It's like, I'm up at 5 o'clock. And like, now what the fuck are you for two hours? It's like, I really should go work out. But like, that's not. But yeah, wear anything special.

I got the orange mass nomics shirt on. It is a classic I'm a fan of, not an OG, but a classic in my wardrobe. I got my drinking team shirt on. Nice. I have one of the shirts Cam gave me. It is the power lifting the blue ribbon sport. Everyone wins.

It just is very, it's like the biggest one he gave me and I honestly felt a little fat today so I just put on something that covered me up. Did anybody, I'm sure the Canadian crew have not got it yet, but everyone's been spoiled of what it is. There's no way you

haven't seen it. So Big Will, do you want to explain what the gift was that people before we get to that did you see like literally someone like the day after it was like when was the deadline to sign up for the prize the present the gift whatever

and it was like fucking two days ago or whatever it was just like it was just so like the guy was asking it's like you are literally the first person to sign up after the line and to say it yeah I think I was that person I'm the last mailer but still gonna get one yeah he did tell him well if he fucking puts the work in order we've

we've had people that like just order the unpaid underrated shirt, whatever's left. Just order that. I think there's five extra larges because I, Tanner does a good job update this pretty often, but sometimes I can go through and manually, like just click each one and see how many it has left by putting the total in.

But I think it's either, there might be one three X and five, you know, so under, which is pretty wild to, to be under 5% of the shirts left. So we're pretty stoked about that over here, team you and you.

Yeah, I was going to say on the, you know, let's get into last week's episode. there was one thing I really noticed where he didn't advertise it and it's because it's mostly gone. Yeah.

Right? There is no sense in advertising it. It's mostly gone. So good for a crew. Thank you to everybody that supported us. And I hope you wear it with pride. Last week's episode. We were letting Will talk about the damn,

the mailer. Oh, the mailer. Oh, gee, Christ. No, please. Anyone listening, I'm sure there's one person listening that hasn't got it, that this will be the first experience consuming it.

Oh, I'm so sorry, Will. I was like, yeah, let's get into the episode. I said him up, I said him up right for it. Well, I partially set him up and then told a story and got sidetracked. So it probably, you know. Yeah, yeah. Wrong again, Joey. Anyway.

Hey, it's all good. It's how it goes. No, we got a beautiful massive sticker showing the love for whipping shitties and the dean. I haven't made that to a magnet yet, but it's got to go up. It's definitely, I don't think it's going to make it on the massonomics green cabinet door, but it's going to go somewhat close to it. It's going on to squat right for sure.

I just need to figure out where. It's a little hefty. Yeah, she's a big boy. She's a big old. It is a literal bumper sticker, which is funny because we give people shit all the time for having such big mass enough fun, such big home gym stickers. But this is different. You know, this serves a purpose. It's kind of funny.

I don't know how many cars will make it on, too, but we'll see it in a lot of home gyms, I'm sure. Oh, absolutely. All right. Now, Joey, what was the last week's episode about? I forgot now. That's, I did too. I forgot. I was all pumped to talk about it and then it turns out I shouldn't have been.

No, honestly, thanks, Keith, for writing these down because I did listen, but I've also listened to four episodes in between that. The seated tier list is what this episode was. And, you know, there's a lot of stuff. I thought, I think my comment of where does destroying the toilet massonomics gym land on this tier? because like, apparently that's somebody's favorite thing to do in the massonomics gym. The leg cramp got me good because I was just like literally as I'm listening to Tommy go,

I'm like, actually it's been so long since I got a leg cramp. And then that night, I got one. I won't say what I was doing, but it was not the time that you want to get a leg cramp. And it's like, ah,

and I can't stop doing what I'm doing. Um, right? So it's like, I had to jinx myself. I just had to jinx myself. Why am I muting you? It's general topics. You can talk.

Yeah. Oh, he left. How dare I? So I'm going to go ahead and give that five out of five monkeys never cramp. Eat your bananas. What about you? Will? I enjoyed it.

You know, honestly, fearless aren't usually my, my spiel. You know, not my thing. But this one, for some reason, which is kind of spoke to me. as I'm a man who enjoys sitting on his ass most of the day. So I'm all for it. You know, I got to give it five out of five beers drank at the bean with Chicago's biggest influencer, Huck Finn.

Yeah, I, um, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the biggest takeaway was, like, Tommy waking up in the middle of the night and his, and waking his wife up in pain and her just being like, what the fuck, like, I'm sleeping over here. And it's just like, yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's the proper reaction when your spouse wakes you up for no reason because you're blurry, you're groggy, you don't really know what's going on. And it is something you would be sympathetic for if you haven't just been like, you know, kicked out of your rim cycle. So I could resonate with that and got a kick out of that. The, um, the tier list. Tier lists are hard sometimes because they're like, I don't know. They're just, they're different. And, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a long segment of them just like talking about the same thing. which is kind of not necessarily what a lot of the other episodes are about, but they're probably better than most of the guest interviews. So I'm happy with it.

I'll take it. One thing that did stick out to me, not to shit on anyone's parade, but the gem that they featured, really nice, well done gym, very expensive gym. It was different, though. Did you notice how, like,

I don't know if you saw the videos, if you watched the video or if you went out and saw the gym, and so it's basically just a complete black and white gym. in the dude's basement, but like it's just the gym. Like it's, um, there's no decor whatsoever. And that just kind of throws me off. Like it's, it's basically like if you just put a squat rack in a, in a white room and that was it. But it was well done.

I mean, it was meticulously kept up. It was probably meticulously built. And I'm sure the person just, that's their vibe is they don't necessarily want cool shit on the wall. But it was just to me, it's, I'm the thing for the opposite of that. So, um, it was kind of neat. they even incorporated, there was little kitchenette and he literally was like storing like the, the rep open trap bar on the kitchenette over the sink and stuff. So a very interesting way to have a home gym. I just, um, I don't know. We're so used to having our friends home gyms and everyone that's

like in the, you know, the inner circle and stuff. Like everyone's got like decor and massonomics, flags and banners and shit to just have, at least from what I saw, not a single piece of anything that wasn't just like black and white gym equipment and then just like the house or whole decor. Yeah, they see a little flag and some Christmas lights and it'll be good to go. Yeah, but it's also like the whole, they went so hard and then, like, the not having the decor was the decor. Like, I think that's just like that, like, that's just the vibe that he gave out.

So I'll go ahead and give it a five out of five zero decals. Then we had this week's big, uh, big Antonio's gym. Did you get a chance to watch that one? Just watched that earlier today. And I had. no idea how many kettlebells and dumbbells that man had. I am, I'm impressed.

I love it. Yes. He had a vast variety. It was a very long gym too. It seemed like, when they mentioned it was this full length of the full basement. Like it really was, but it just kind of like went on and on and on and on and just like little tunnel essentially.

And then it's still wrapped around the other side of the house. But a lot of cool stuff. Very cool to see your friends on TV. Can't really get enough of that. I tried to watch it at lunch. I didn't have any damn service, so I had to power watch it right when I got home, but still enjoyable nonetheless. And did you get a, did you, anything you want to add to that? I don't know if you want.

No, no, I haven't watched it yet. Good man, good man. I hadn't had a chance. For a friend of the podcast, but we will, yeah, it does suck. Like, I will thank Tanner because I don't know if we had an influence on that or not, but the video used to come out at like fucking 3 p.m. or 4 p.m. or something. And I just, like, like, while we were still already doing this, why we had already started this podcast, we wanted to feature it. I'm just like, dude, like, I can't power watch.

Like, I got to like spend an hour with my wife before I podcast. I don't have time. So I don't know if it was for us or just something that they did, but they definitely in like the last two years switched their midweek episode, if they ever did one, you know, to being, you know, 11 o'clock Eastern standard at least, which helps us out, you know, can try to get, knock it out by lunch. Anyway, so I got a quick segment and then Joey's got a pretty cool story from his following weekend.

So by segment, I just mean topic. I went to a mall the other day for the first time in probably a decade or more. I had to go to the Apple store. I guess I did go to the Apple store maybe three years ago, but it was like in and out and and had like no time to kill because I just went and picked up a phone and left. This is the first time I had like an app. I had to get a new battery in. So I had like about 90 minutes to kill and just kind of walked around the mall.

And I was like, this is actually still a mall. It's in like the nice, ritzy, fancy part of town. And it's actually like a pretty renowned mall for the area. but just kind of the nostalgia and deja vu, I guess, walking around. Like when I, you know, I think I worked at a mall when I was in high school and stuff at the movie theaters or just being in a mall and just being surrounded by mall stuff and mall people and just having that like thing that I haven't really experienced because all the other malls in like greater Rochester are basically like medical facilities now and like

aren't malls and haven't been malls in probably 10 years. So just interesting. I don't know. Very interesting. Where else did you go? Like, did you visit stores and stuff? I think I walked into Dix to just kind of, I was looking for some rubber wedding bands.

You would. Yeah, I walked. Yeah, they fucking smacked me right in the face. I didn't actually, so I got, basically, I ended up kind of just walking around. I did a lap, kind of saw a lot of the stores, got a pretzel and a lemonade, and because Annie Ann's exists and you have to.

And then basically, I actually sat down, put like $6 in a massage chair and got like a 20 minute chair massage. And about it at the time was pretty much up at that point. Actually, I think they initially told me an hour. So I went back at an hour and then had to wait there for another half hour of why they were still wrapping up or whatever. But at one point, I had a fucking had a big old scare because I lost my wallet. And I was like, it's got to be in that fucking massage chair.

It's got to be in that massage chair. So I had like beeline back there after realizing I didn't have my wallet. And sure enough, was still just tucked right in there sitting. So no one's had been able to snag it. So thankful that no one saw it. But yeah. just in general. I haven't been no mall in years

and it was just the first time being in one. I honestly thought, I honestly thought bad experience was extinct. I didn't literally realize that there were still big stores because that is I think the only one in the area.

Whereas I know all the other ones have closed down. Yeah, they used to be like a destination. Like that's where you would go. Right? To hang out. And the fact that you were like, you worked in a movie theater in a mall.

There's no movie theaters in malls anymore. Yeah, I think they might be adjacent to it, but I don't know about in. Yeah. Yeah, definitely, definitely not appear at least not new builds for sure, but I can't imagine there are new build malls.

I'm curious, when was the last mall built? Up here they do super centers now. Where it's an outside mall, which is the least walkable. If you are a person who has to go to the mall and you don't want to drive to every store, you're going to get hit by some dummy.

So, yeah, I think they're a dying breed. They just build, boxes and lease them out now. All right. Well, let's hear about your fancy weekend with all the heavy consumed. Oh, yeah, that was a, that was super fun. And, you know, I don't get to talk about this stuff

very often because I don't do this stuff very often. But Anastasia, who is crew, was competing. She was competing at the ABS at Just Be Strong Gym, which is where there's a team Zottal lifts out of. Justin Zottal is probably the strongest Canadian in powerlifting, I've literally emceed him breaking

you know, the second highest squat in the world. So like he's a, he's a big dude and he was competing that day too. But I was going just to support Anastasia and Steve was there

and it turns out Chris was there who's also Ontario crew, John from Sarnia powerlifting was also there. A bunch of other people were there. It was just a really cool kind of like remembering why I'm in the strength community kind of day. They're nice.

Yeah, it really was. Anastasia hit a 10-pound PR. I'm going to tell this story now and hope Steve eventually listens. Yeah, none of my friends listen either. Don't worry. Like, Chris and Dan are so far behind if they ever listen at all. So, yeah. So she was getting ready for deadlifts and she was kind of sitting with me and Steve walked

away and I looked at her and I went, this is the place to live. failed your third. I said, go. Do what you think you can't do within like range. And she says, okay, I got it. And so he's texting me the whole time, right? Like, it's one of those things wherever I'm at a meet with them. He's handling her, but I'm always kind of like also there. Like, how did she feel? What's next? Blah, blah, blah. Like, we're always texting each other. And he goes, after her second, he goes, she wants a big jump. And I'm like, yeah, there might be a devil on her shoulder, be mad at me later. And he's like, yeah, no hesitation.

She said, go. So she hit a 10-pound deadlift PR in competition. She's never lifted that weight before. So good for you, Anastasia. You're going to kill it. I think she wants to move to Strongman next. And yeah, yeah, that might also be the devil on her shoulder. The natural progression.

Yes. But at the age of 16. Some of us wait until 39 or 40. Yeah. Well, I mean, because they came, they come up here, right? So we were doing some power lifting up here. And then I was just like, do you want to try the Dini Stones? And she just fell in love.

Right. And so, yeah, we're doing strong man stuff like that. And so beyond that, like we got crew pictures. In a very embarrassing moment, I see a guy wearing a lift hat. I like the band lift hat. And I walk up and I'm like, hey, man, I'm Joey. And he goes, oh, I know. I follow you.

That was fucking embarrassing because I follow him. that mean but like I definitely would be could be guilty at that like oh the algorithm there's so many crew now like I've not crew he's just a local lifter

who I also follow yeah it was it was kind of embarrassing because I was like what's your Instagram I looked it up and I'm following him I'm like what the hell man like your stuff doesn't appear um yeah so all that happened but then my friend

interestingly enough the Ontario stone lifting group was there as well yeah like multiple like multiple parts of your world or the same thing. Like I don't, that has always. So Mike,

he's there and, uh, I posted the picture. He's a giant. And he's like, oh, we're just going to do like a half time show of bag over bar. And possibly dinies if there's time.

So him and this other guy go up and they do a bag over bar. I think it was a 250 or two 75 pound bag. But they brought out the 150 bag. And, uh, they're like, oh, once they were done doing that, they both walked off stage.

They were spent. And they announced, does anybody want to try this? And of course I went, I do. And if you've seen the video, the bar is up pretty much my chin. Because both of these guys are like seven feet tall. So I get it up over for one. And then I just go, yeah, I'm not doing that 250.

Like I've been sitting in a hot gym for six hours. I'm not even ready to do 250. But then another guy who have talked about before on the podcast, Robin, he comes up and he picks up the bag and throws up. it back to me. So now it's a challenge. So now I'm doing my first ever strong man showcase in front of a crowd of probably the strongest people in Canada. John Hack was there. I was going to ask if you knew who John Hack was. How that interaction went because we can talk about that in a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll go with the story. And then,

so I ended up doing, I think it was six, maybe seven reps before I tapped out. And then Steve came in and tagged in and he started going with Robin. So it was actually like really cool, but it was honestly the first time I've done strongman in front of people. So that was really exciting to do. I think one of my favorite parts was I think somebody, somebody said it might have been the announcer. Oh,

as I stood up and said, I want to lift that. The announcer goes, no, I've seen you on Instagram. You love doing this. And I was like, yeah. So I got called out twice for my Instagram shit.

Yeah. And then he goes, I don't, I think that bag weighs as much as him. And I was like, it does. Yeah, it does. So that was pretty funny. Just the last part of the story. Yes, John Hack was there.

Christy Hawkins was also there. She's a tank. She's, yeah, she's a tank. And of course, I didn't recognize either of them. Right? So Steve, at some point somebody posted a photo at the event with John Hack and was like, oh, John Hack is here. And I was like,

that's John Hack. I know that name. Yeah, right? I know that name. I don't know what it looks like. I thought you'd be bigger. Yeah. Actually,

yeah, kind of. But so I message Tanner and I'm like, John Hack is here and Christy Hawkins. And he's like, oh, go ask John if he's that guy from the Masonomics podcast.

That's funny. Yeah. And I'm like, I went, okay. So I'd go up and I'm like, aren't you that guy from the Masonomics podcast? John starts laughing and goes,

ahem, twice, sir. And then I'm like, yeah, sorry, I had to. Tanner put me up to it. Well, see you later. And so it was so awkward for the minute. Then eventually I went over and started talking about unpaid and underrated. He's kind of aware of who we are, but like not really,

but he's got one of our stickers now. And I showed him my sticker because we were talking about it. I was like, yeah, it's a pretty silly area. Like we're just our silly people. And like, my gym is the Delfth dungeon. He goes, oh, I've seen those. Those are really funny. And I was like, well, one's yours now.

So he's got one of my gym stickers. Yeah, I did not get to meet Christy. She was actually spotting and loading for the entire show and doing handings and stuff like that. She didn't have to work out that day. Yeah. So she's a bench. So that was it. Like, that was actually one of the coolest things.

And then, yeah, as mentioned earlier, the next day I get a thing. Remember I was talking about being on the wait list for that stone lifting competition? Yeah, yeah. Oh, that was actually. Literally the next day, he goes, hey, I got a spot for you. Oh, nice. Yeah, that was going to be the novice class for the local stone lifting thing, right? Yep, yeah, it's at the Northumberland Scottish Games.

I am obviously in the novice class being my first. The weights are not scary except for the Atlas Stone. That one's kind of, it's a 210 Atlas to shoulder. Yeah, it'll be never, never done that weight. Yeah, I've never done that weight. Yeah, you shared me, you shared those weights with me. And like, I'm still, like, you said you had a shot put an 80-pound rock. That just doesn't seem accurate to me.

Like, shot puts are like 10 or 20 pounds, aren't they? Well, I think he called it a shot, but I think it's just a stone throw. Okay, so it's literally just like a chest press, I would assume. Yeah, and just throw an 80-pound rock. That makes more sense because I'm going to have to think of people that shot put, like, that's, yeah. I don't think that's the right weight. I don't think that one's too scary unless my arm continues to bother me. Yeah, if it's just a push press, essentially, that should be fun.

I'm going to be curious, like, how far could I throw an 80-pound rock if I'm just like chest-pressing? Yeah. Six feet? I wonder if I have to shoulder it. I'll wait for the, uh, Like if I have to shoot it from shoulder or if I can shoot it from chest, I don't know. Yeah, if there's rules, send them to email. I'd actually be curious about that.

And then the 210 Atlas to shoulder, like I said, is what scares me. I literally messaged the company today and said, how fast can you get me a grip shirt? So I should have that by Tuesday. Big shout out. They're industry-e Canada. So they're going to send me that shirt, shop me a discount code, pretty much covered shipping. And then... Code unpaid.

And then there will... what else is there? There's the overhead press, so there's a stone press, which is 135 pounds or 170 Trump. I'm not worried about the 135. I can probably rep that, but the 170... What stone do you have at the house to prep on this? I don't.

So, pressing stones are flat stones. You only have roundstones. And I only have roundstones, and they only go up to about 10608 pounds. Still, if you can press that, you can press a, I mean, you got to set or press your sandbag. You got to get some kind of rep in with getting implement from the ground to your chest. Yeah. So that's my, that's my plan this weekend is to actually pack the sandbag as full as it will get and play with that.

Do some Viking press to prepare for the overhead press. See if I can get that to 135. What's your Nukshuck way? You could press, you could take some sand out of that and press that. Well, it's supposed to be 150. I think it's closer to 140 right now. So I could play with that. It's full of Pee gravel.

So that helps. Take 20 pounds out of that and try to press that fucker. Yeah. And then there's the really interesting dinny walk, which is 209, one hand, 190 second hand. I didn't know it was a walk. I thought it was just a lift. And I was like, I can wrap that. That's nothing, but it's a walk.

So we're going to play with that this week. And look for updates in two weeks. Fun. All right. I'm going to hit them with some affiliates, and you can do them later. So we can kind of break it up. We got obsidian ammonia. Everybody that needs a little smelling salt.

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Is this the bad read? Yeah, sorry, I did a bad job of setting you up. Yeah. Hey, Bigwood. Do you have an ad read for us there, Big William? There it is. Oh, boy, do I. Those words make more sense.

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I think, first of all, great job. second of all, the list of topics in the Discord is so weird if you didn't have context, you would be like, what is this place? Because all of those come up regularly, snipped crew, you know, I'm a member of that, the Contean ethics, I know we've talked about that. Like, that's so all over the place good work.

I'm sure I've seen it all talked about in the same five minutes span before. It's phenomenal. God, God. I had a, that was big, go ahead. I was just said,

hey, we had, there's so many new followers on the UNU page and stuff. Somebody had DM does one of the, the newer crew,

I think. And he was like, hey, can we add more tabs in the Discord? Like, talking about massonomics discord. And I was like,

well, A, like, I'm not Tanner and Tommy and B, like, I think we got enough. Like,

I don't know. So I just, I kind of got to chuckle all that. So I just sent him to Tanner. And, but it was just like, kind of funny of like,

I think, he was talking about was like some of the extent of another tab for when people were doing competitions or when so it wasn't flooding the competition basically to like kind of organize meetups and stuff so we're not just flooding supporting your supporting members so yeah somewhat valid you don't interrupt the nonsense of that that threat I did well Tanner did kind of like complain about it the other day and I was like it doesn't make sense because he literally missed like all three or four people because it was so much um day Jeff had posted something in there.

He got his certified completion certificate of he's a certified as a sushi roller now or something. And I actually had a follow-up question, but I was like, I'm not going to ask it in here. I'm going to go put it somewhere else. Anyway, all right. All right, big Willie style. Hit us with those sweet rhymes with the shirt talk.

Good work on that one. That one was really cool, too. Should we get our guest on the horn? Yeah, let's kick all these guys out. And find William somewhere. Big Will is that you, buddy. You there? Howdy, howdy.

Hey, hey, Steve. Well, welcome to Unpain Underay Podcast. You know, you know, the drill. Let's know where we're going to find you at. What's that Instagram and Discord handle? Instagram is Big Will lifts and Discord is the other Big Will. Nice. And you have a social security number, your first pet's name, elementary school, all that stuff?

No. Oh, give me enough drinks and you all figure that stuff out anyways. I hear you like some meads So that probably won't be too hard Absolutely All right What brought you to massonomics And why you still here?

So I originally found them in early 2018 I was I think I saw someone wearing their shirt I was like oh ha ha ha funny shirt Let me see these guys Sweet nose breath Yep Yeah I'm like oh

Funny memes And then I just never followed up on anything I'm gonna be honest I thought I thought the podcast was a meme in their community because the first thing I saw the podcast was the 200 review Apple, like the 200 Apple podcast review Billboard. And I thought, I would genuinely thought, you thought the podcast didn't exist, you're saying.

Yeah, I thought it didn't exist. I thought that was a joke because I was like, oh, great marketing, Tanner. Yeah, I was like, oh, the billboards, it looked Photoshopped and, you know, the president of North Dakota. And that's the, you know, lifting podcasts about nothing. I was like, oh, ha, ha, they're making fun of people with podcasts. And it wasn't until so many years later that I got back seriously into lifting. I was like, let me check out all these old lifting podcasts I used to listen to. Like Powercasts, which is gone and Dave Tate's table talk and he mentioned Masonomics.

I was like, oh, the chicken bake guys I followed on Instagram forever ago. Let me go check out their stuff. And listen to a random episode. I was like, damn it, they're funny. I've been missing out. And, uh, 10 year backlog to dive into. Plenty of backlog. And, uh, kept listening.

And one day I was like, oh, let me check out the new thing. I checked out the latest one. And Tanner's saying, oh, the line in the sand has been passed for the crew mailer. You know, too bad, so sad. And this was for the, uh, the cards. Um, last, the last mailer. Yeah. So like, well, I like discord and I'm in a few communities.

So let me, let me see what this is all about. So I paid the, paid the money. and hopped in, I took a look around. I was like, damn it, they're all funny. It's supportive. I've been missing out. Like how much more I've missed out on? And, you know, ended up going to the Arnold with a buddy

and went to the meetup at the Eagle. And again, I was like, everyone here's just so nice. I'm like, I've been wasting six years doing what? Going to war with the bar. Absolutely. So, yeah, now I'm here and just doing. anything and trying to give as much massonomics in this year as I can. I made a meme, I think, two years ago, right before I went to the Liptard-Live-Easy.

And it was like the meme of the guy putting on the clown makeup. Right? And like the first step is, oh, their Instagram is funny. Then the next step is, oh, their podcast is funny. Then the third step is like, oh, they sell shirts and stuff or whatever it was in that order. And then the last one was, I'm on my way to South Dakota. That was me over the course of eight years. Just dropped two grand and on a 20-hour travel car ride with Steve.

Telling my family, I'm flying out the South Dakota to meet 100 internet strangers to go lift in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, are you okay? Yeah. Did you have a stroke right now? Maybe. I don't know. Where do you live? Where are you from?

Give us some of them deeds. I said, like the young kids. Yeah. That is a young kid thing to say, I think. I'm in Franklin, Tennessee So a little bit south In Nashville, Tennessee I think I'm about like, I don't know,

45 minutes away from carp And maybe an hour away from Big Rorellis music. So, yeah, it's Well, you're near our friend of Belphefad, too. He's got to be down there. He's actually about five hours away. Not close at all.

No, Tennessee's a pretty big state. Yeah, I don't know. It's more long than anything. Yeah. Come on. Well, you're that close to all these supporting members. You went to the Arnold. You've been around for a long time.

What's your Hall of Fame status? Do you know it? I think with this, I think I'm at five. Nice. So working on it. And that's in like a matter of months then, right? Yep, since the last November. So Big Hogan and I did the math at the Eagle.

And I might be able to get the cup level. by crew falls, um, just for trying to do all the fun in-person massonomic stuff. Mm-hmm. Uh, but we'll see. Very good. You gonna make it to home gym con? I know, it's not going to help you for the check marks and sure you got the Arnold, but for the 100 person, awesome hang out with the homies.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. I, um, I, when I went to the Arnold and the Eagle, I, uh, I don't know how it went over my head that I didn't realize that Jake was home gym con. Oh. I still. Yeah. Yeah. Jake was at the,

yeah, Jake was just chilling with us the whole night. Yeah. So he was talking with me and I didn't realize it. He's like, oh, are you going to home gym con? I got,

oh, no, with the budget and travel. And I just don't think I would be able to make it. I was like, so what do you do? He's like, oh, I do home gym con. I was like,

so you go? He's like, no, I run it. I'm so sorry. That's funny. That's funny. Because like Jake does have a, like a,

you know, it's not the most energetic person at times too so it's just he's very passive and kind of so i could see him like not really hammering at home like yeah you know like i am mr home jim conk like i see that be yeah it'd be a very funny interaction to observe it could have gone worse so i'll give you those kudos yeah i'm not gonna that stupid fucking thing right i imagine absolutely not oh but i um i made the the executive decision on the drive home from ohio i was like Louisville's just two and a half hours away. I'll get a dog sitter for the day.

I'll drive up Saturday morning, drive back Saturday night. Like make a day of it. Yeah, two and a half hours. Like, I'm jealous of that. Easy. I mean,

or just like get a dog sitter and spend a night in a hotel and get hammered with the boys. Bring the dog. Oh, everybody loves dogs. I'll bring ham with me. Yes. Bring the dog.

Not Pam. Ham. That's true. pre-show. Okay, so I've got big wills, big gym and strength emporium pulled up on my screen right now. Tell us all about the home gym, where the name comes from, and all of that kind of stuff. And why you love Jim Radar. So the gym is just an amalgamation of a bunch of stuff I found on Facebook Marketplace.

I think they announced Jim Radar and people started getting on the leaderboard. And I'm like, I want to get points. And I saw someone selling a squat rack on Facebook marketplace for cheap. I'm like, this is a sign. It's time. I got to get it done. So threw down some layers of plywood, put a squat rack on it, and just been kind of crewing equipment ever since in my small apartment. It's not very space saving, but it gets the job done.

So it's like, and so you're talking six months ago. You went from not having a home gym to having a home gym. Jim, that's, that's, Jim Ryder literally made you build a home gym. I've never heard anything. That's my favorite. That's literally awesome. I've always wanted one, but I've just always made excuses for I can't. And most of them have been like, oh, I'm living at my

parents' house. Oh, I'm living in a small apartment. Oh, but now I have like a space where I can feasibly use it. And then Jim Radar comes out. I'm like, you know what? I am tired of the commercial gyms. Let's you know, let's just send it, see how it goes. And now we're here.

So it sounds like you were influenced. Do you I mean, no one knows who the guys behind Jim Radar are, but it sounds like you might. Like, they, that sounds like they really inspired you. I'm curious if you have any insight on who they are. I believe they're just a couple of influencers, because I sure sure is that influenced. I can tell you that much. And, you know, I'm a big fan of Jim Radar.

I honestly spend probably a little too much of my day at work scrolling through Jim radar and people walk up and like, well, is that gym equipment? But yeah, it is. Look at this one. And they're like, will get back to work. I'm like, okay, I got it. That's smart. That's a smarter decision than the one I was making.

Yeah, whoever those guys are, I'd like to have a beer with them. I'll tell you that. Because you can't trust somebody who won't have a beer with you. Absolutely. So what were you just on? So you were just on commercial gym life? Did you have you canceled said commercial gym membership then? So I did originally.

I was working out at a lifetime fitness, which is the boogey smells like eucalyptus saunas with old men trying to sell you peptides and all the all the good stuff um and so now after i cancel that i'm saving tons of time probably not money but tons of time um and i think my equipment's better than the stuff they had but i i still am holding on to a crunch fitness membership just in case i get the itch to go use some do some machines do some seated machines something like that. That's something I'm lacking here. But yeah, so I'm mostly gone from the commercial gym scene. Well, it sounds like you saved a lot of money, you know, reducing down from a very expensive gym membership to a pretty reasonable gym membership. And what you pay on

Facebook Marketplace is just the, you know, the price of the home business to have a home gym, really. Well, that's the problem. I had to delete Facebook from my phone because I kept going through marketplace. I was like, I can't afford not to. So now I have like a sandbag and a Cadillac bar and just, like, armwock handles. I'm like, those are hiding under the couch somewhere. You're close enough to carp too. You can just be like, all right, I'll make the draw. Like, buy, like, just wait six months and buy like six things off of him because he post shit every like couple weeks. Let him just, well, I don't know, that would only be if he'd be okay, you know, storing it for you for, you know, a couple months and just make the day trip up there to go get it

and get a workout in with him and stuff. That might be a keep your tabs on him. Hey, that might not be a bad idea. I might feel that one day. There you go. All right. Well, you're on a podcast. This is the unpain and narrator podcast.

You had a handful of people, you know, give us some feedback about you. How'd you go about asking them to do that? So they all know about the Lift Harda Vizi Classic. I basically told them, hey, I'm going flying out to South Dakota for a couple days for a powerlifting meet with a bunch of internet friends who I've never really met in person, except for maybe a dozen of them. And that's run by two guys who run a podcast. Now there's two other guys that run a sister podcast to the main podcast. And, you know, I had a chance to have a chance to go on and kind of introduce myself before

randomly popping up in South Dakota, be like, hey, guys, what's up? So just a little introduction. And that's kind of the way I framed it for most of them. And one buddy, he was with me at the, at the Eagle. And he kind of saw crew and got the whole rundown. And so I kind of told him like, hey, can you just fill this out for those guys you met? It's like, yeah, I got you, bud. Nice.

So went over pretty well, I hope. I did forget to mention. I hit you with the code unpaid comment. So that is official. You are on the unpaid underrated podcast. Oh, perfect. Yeah. All right.

Are you familiar with a little lease fund? most fun, the game we like to play around here? I am indeed. You're going to give me a topic. I tell you what I like most and what I like Lease. Awesome. That works. That works.

Now, for some elaboration for Mike, because I might have to go audible here, are you in an apartment or like a townhouse? I'm in an apartment. That works. That's what I need. Okay. So least fun, most fun, having a home gym in the dining room of an actual apartment, not a townhouse, not a house house, house, not a garage, not a basement.

you are in the dining room of a what what floor are you on? First floor, thankfully. Okay, that helps. Is it a slab or is it a basement? It's on slab. Okay, so that helps. Okay. So at least fun, most fun, apartment, gym, dining room, etc.

Most fun is it's just convenient. I throw on some music for my TV. I hang out with my dog during my rest sets. It's just right here. I'm saving all this time and can get all the fun equipment I want. and no one can really stop me from making weird noises when I lift. And that's the best part. Also wearing my short shorts,

no one can judge me on that. Only I can kick me out. And, you know, it's nice and convenient. I say the least fun part of it is that in a like 600 square foot apartment that probably isn't the best like layout possible, the hundred,

150 square feet of equipment I have in here does get in the way. and there has been a couple of times where I've forgotten to put my barbell away and it's sitting in the kitchen and I get up to go grab some shredded cheese out the fridge at 3 a.m. and just almost break my toe. And, you know, probably that,

but that's completely my fault. That's just me being messy. All right. So space limitations of storing stuff, essentially. Yeah. So that's probably... There's equipment under the couch right now, and there's going to be more

equipment under the bed here in a minute. So, yeah. And so it'll fit under the bed. That's good. That's good. Oh, that's how you know it's good. Yeah. The one image I really enjoyed on the gym radar, though, which made the space probably look a little bigger than it was.

You had like six people in there one day. You might have just been, you know, reproduced. It was just you and your clones. Had to lift with the local crew, you know, how to get the guys together for a big lift. Makes sense. That is a good picture. Thank you.

Thank you. Do your upstairs neighbors fucking hate you? Or are you like pretty quiet and passive with the, like you're, so I was pretty quiet and passive until about a month ago. And then she moved out and whoever was raining to her put it up for sale. And they've tried to sell it before. So I don't think they're going to be very successful. So for the time being, I have this whole space to myself and the neighbors are all that backwall back there.

So I can, you know, blast my warhammer. audio books and grunt as loud as I want. Hell yeah. Wait, you have to buy a, like, you're in a place where you buy apartments, you don't rent apartments? Like, it's a condo, right? Yeah, it's technically a condo. I, um, yeah, and full transparency, I'm not trashing someone's condo.

I'm some random person, but grandmother owns it and I rent it from her. Um, gosh. And we have a deal that if I break anything, I fix it, which is fair. on being extra careful. But, uh, yeah, with, you know,

the, the 600 pound deadlift and living room super careful, right? He's got a platform. Yeah, I got horse saw mat stacked up. It's fine.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're on a slab, you know, it's, should be all right. All right. That's what,

that's what I got for you. All right. I got two. I got two. Oh, boy. Yeah. Um, who's your ideal training partner?

Ooh. Yeah, I'm going to say fictional living dead. Assume if they are dead, they are living now to train with you. I'm going to have to say rich piano. Yeah, I'll hit it with the music. Oh, I don't have it.

We need a soundboard. He was probably the first, like, gym influencer that I started following when I started lifting in high school. And, like, just loved his positivity, loved his message. And also now that I'm older and a little wiser, I really appreciate how open he was about his like ped's use and being transparent about it and the side effects and kind of telling people like wait or just don't do it and unfortunately I was a huge fan of the eight-hour arm workout so I was like more is better more is bigger why am I not

getting bigger it's like 15 workouts a week you're not going to grow bud I'm sorry yeah yeah you're not giving any rest time to that no no but yeah so give me rich any day and I think it'll be a good time. Good answer. First time. First time he's come up on this podcast. Yeah, it might have been. And then my second one, Keith, I think I asked it last week, and I think I want to keep asking, what's your favorite muscle of yours?

Like, what's your favorite muscle to work out? What's the one if somebody was like, if they saw you, they'd be like, that's big. Which one is it? It's not big right now, but training back right now has been. so much fun. Because I've completely just forgotten about it for the past couple, probably for the past year

training it directly. So doing some rows with the Cadillac bar and some fat grips and getting that just a nasty back pump. Just feeling good. I was walking by a mirror. I'm like, oh, like, looking big bud. Oh, that feeling when the shirt

hangs off your back and doesn't touch the bottom of your back? Do you get that one? It once. on a really good day. Working on it. Yeah. It's good when it happens to the pecks, but when it happens to the back

and you're just like, oh, there's air under there. That's a good feeling. They're like, oh, I'm big. Not jacked. I'm big, big. Yeah, that's what it is.

Good answer. We have, you know, some people in the Discord like to hear more about, you know, we let people use their own discretion. So the job,

as little as much as you'd like to talk about. And, you know, we might go down a rabbit hole. We might just breeze right over it. So what you got for us? What's you doing? Yeah, I'm a estimator for a commercial general contractor here in Nashville. So it's nothing crazy. I spend most of my days just listening to podcasts and

counting doorknobs and windows. So, you know, company comes to us and or someone comes to us and say, hey, we want you to build this and me and a team get together and figure out how much wood is going to take, how much concrete is going to take, how much is going to cost and try to make sure that the whole project goes as seamlessly as possible. So, yeah, it's a ton of staring out of computer. Big spreadsheet guy over there is I think what you're telling us. Love, love spreadsheets.

Can't get enough of them. Absolute freaking Excel sheets, you know? It's, you know, Keith is stealing that. As you should. rest of my life. Good. Perfect. I probably just change it to two sheets, but then, like, you have to spell out.

No, I guess sheets is just regular. Yeah, it's spelled the same. It is regular sheets, but it's just, it's still. I'm a freak in the Google sheets. There we go. That's what I'll tell. Nice. So, because when I read a lot, a lot of, you know, a lot of people submitted what you did, basically,

but I'm like, oh, does that, does he, like, have to sell it to and, like, be the pitchman and, like, try to just be a hustler because, like, that doesn't sound like, so it sounds like you're just all back-in stuff, not necessarily. trying to upsell people and shit. Yeah, that's my boss. He's the one that takes all of our work, puts it together in a proposal and goes and sells it to someone else. So I just get to say, I don't know, it looks like there's drywall on that wall. Good luck, bud.

And what do you have to do? It's something you have a degree in then. Like, that's actually like a construction management thing or something? Yeah, I got a degree in construction management from Tennessee Knoxville. And then before this, I worked in operations. So I worked my way up to being a project manager at another company. And I got to the project manager level. I was like, this sucks.

I'm going to go count doorknobs. And I had an opportunity and had a better opportunity and just changed over. And, yeah, you know. Yeah, project manager sounds like it would be a lot more stressful. Obviously, you know, getting phone calls at 8 o'clock at night on a regular basis because some delivery never showed up. and they need the poor concrete the next day. And now you just get to go fucking makes, you know, basically deal with spec sheets and like, you know, count.

That sounds awesome. I think I would like, I would love that job, I think. Like that sounds so like up my alley of like your OCD brain can kind of just like take over. And then you just look up and like, oh, my eight hour days over. I'm going home. Oh, absolutely. It's great. I clock in, just stare at, stare at drawings all day and clock out.

And it's no one calls me past five o'clock in the afternoon. and no one ruins my night and it's a good time. Well, this man knows the value of a length of wood. You know it. Yeah, I've been sitting on that for like at least 30 seconds. I got a nose breath. I'll take it. I'm probably you didn't cramp up.

Jeez. 30 seconds. What did you think I was doing? Good stuff. I love these podcasts. I'm happy. I hope people listening to enjoy it. Like I just, I think our podcast would be so awesome to listen to with like the first time ear.

I would say virgin ear. People don't think that's weird to say, but I say virgin this and virgin that all the time. But like listening to this podcast after not recording it, I think would be so cool. Like I think this, we put a good product out and I would be a listener of my podcast, but I create it with you. So it's like, it's hard to like listen every week and get the same vibe of like not our like because it's like, oh, that is funny. We did say that. That was funny. but to like hear it for the first time like you've never heard it i wonder if i go back to like episode

i wonder if you go back to like i would say episode one but like i don't know that i want to listen to us when we were in the beginning but like we weren't funny like episode like 60 70 even 100 or well no because we're only at 160 now so i don't know like i wonder if we were because i wouldn't remember it as much then but like i don't know this little just uh self-flare i guess that we're awesome and we love us and do uh you guys do too to count like to kind of not count her but to add onto it. As much as we've been getting flack lately, I think one of my favorite things is when somebody says, this was funny. Because then you get to go, oh yeah, I did say that, right? Like, that's what I'm trying to remember what it was. They'd be like, when you said that, I'm like,

I don't remember saying that. And what you just said to describe it wasn't enough context for me to fucking remember what you're talking about. Will you like, will you explain it more, explain it to me like I'm four? Because I don't understand. And I think I'm funny. And you told me, funny, but how was I funny? Because I don't remember. Explain the joke to me, David. Yeah. I feel like my memory is getting about as bad as my eyes. I'm late. I can't fucking retain as much as I used to. It's sad. Getting old. All right.

Back to our guest, Big William. So is it Will or is it William? Because I heard Billiam. There's a funny story about when you kind of change it there for a while or told your parents you wanted to be called something else. Yeah, it's Will right now. William was my professional name. I thought it sounded more grown up and responsible. I used that at work forever, but my family and my friends have all called me Will for forever. And I started this new job.

I said, hey, I'm William. And they go, oh, well, here's your badge. Here's your login. Here's your business cards. You're Will now. Easy enough. So now I'm Will everywhere. But yeah, I usually go by Will.

works a good deal. If I've called you Will, I'm sorry, we'll try to stick with Will. All good. There is William speckled throughout the whole fucking thing. Somebody calls your Will, William. There is. It was a big, a big, massive earth-shattering decision in first grade where everything is earth-shattering. There was, I was Will, and there was another Will in class.

And I think I was so dramatic about it, because, again, first grade. A little extra. I was like, I think I'm going to be William to make things less confusing. I think I got some kind of like award for it for my teacher or something. It was the greatest day of my life at that point. Well, is it your life? It was William's life. But was it Will's life?

Are you different? It's a good question. Yeah, that was past way. We'll never remember that. Yeah, that will's gone. Did he ever exist? Ooh, excellent question. That goes back to the Confian ethics, maybe.

I don't know. Philosophy, we'll talk about in the Discord. All right. So we heard what you're doing now. Let's get to kind of the breakdown, take us through that timeline. You know, you played a little high school sports, blitted a little lifting, you know, catch us up. Yeah. I kind of started lifting in high school.

I played football. So I was in a high school weight room, which was just a disaster. I don't think I squatted to depth once. My bench press was just a closed bench press. 405. Yeah. Yeah, easy.

Which my close grip bench press made actual close grip bench press harder, but I don't know. I was dumb. I was like, is my wrist supposed to hurt? And coach just yelled at me. Like, okay, that's fine. So I quit football after a couple of years, got a couple of concussions. And the doctor heavily advised me that that was not healthy. So you know what?

I'm listening to you ever did, honestly. Honestly, you're not wrong. It probably was. Okay, so now we've got three different wills. We've got first grade William and Will. Now we've got pre and post CTE Will. Yep. Yep.

Okay. I like this timeline. You might have got out of it beforehand. Like two concussions, unless they were like the same really targeted for each other, you might be okay. I don't know. I just, I don't know. I have a hard time memorizing things maybe and sometimes colors are off.

But I don't know. There's no way to know. Yeah, I can drive. It's fine. They gave me a license. Yeah. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a citizen of this country. So, uh, one hell of a bachelor pitch to all these, uh, single crew women listen to

this that are looking for a lady. Oh, yeah, no, I, my eggs are fully scrambled up top. Don't work, don't you worry about it. It's great. You know, different will every day. Variety spice of life, as they say. Sorry, I had to do with that. I, that might have been offensive to people of CTE.

I will never know. I remember. No, we won't. But high school football. Okay, after football, I was about 16 and like every other 16 high school kid, my first thought was maybe girls will like me more if I have muscles. And like, never mind the fact that I was too socially awkward to talk to girls and also had the closest thing to a bowl cut that you could have. Yes. Yes.

Yeah, it was a rough few years. I had a rat tail. And not in high school, but like when I was a young kid, I had the rat tail and the spikes on the top. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. All for it. But that's when the rich piano protocol kicked in with me and my buddies. We're at the YMCA and probably 10, 15 sessions a week.

No care for nutrition, no care for sleep or rest or anything. So I was just skinny fat and on top of the world. So took a couple years off. and then in like 2016 raw powerlifting blew up on social media I mean I think like I was I started following like

Omar Essoff and Silent Mike and then like Alan Thrall with his starting strength stuff and Brian Alzrew like all the all those guys those are all people I used to follow yes yep yeah I don't know how much they're

putting out right now but um it's funny you bring that up actually untamed strength just came across my feed today. I went, I actually, whatever he posted, I went, ew, why am I following this guy? Because it was some influencer shit where he was like doing like a filter video or something. I was like, what is this? I will say, I think he changed a little when he got rid of the beard. It was a sad day.

But to each their own, you know, he can. I like his dink content a lot better. What? Oh, yeah. His dink. content. Did he send you some in the mail like you do? Is there a mailing list for that?

How do I get on? No, you have to mail them to me. That's how it goes. The gum of yours. Okay. Okay, okay. We'll talk offline. Don't, don't you worry.

Take it off line. Yeah, yeah. But start following them. And I was, honestly, my main driving factor getting powerlifting was, I can get in shape without doing cardio because all of the memes were no cardio. I was like, this is going to be great. So hopped on starting strength, ran that for a year, got decently strong, ran out, did my first powerlifting meet in, like, 2017, and hit the Jimbrough, Holy Trinity of the two-plate bench, the three-plate squat, and the four-plate deadlift. So I was on top of the world, feeling great, and, you know, doing good.

But I got injured. I was a server and an Italian restaurant and the most Italian way possible I slipped on a puddle of olive oil and busted up my knee pretty bad to the point where like couldn't body weight squat couldn't walk without pain for a couple months

and just kind of got jacked up a little bit and in those months gained a bunch of weight, lost on my muscle, lost on my confidence, you know, just wasn't having a good time and I kind of started

a couple years of inconsistent gym time until pretty recently when I was, I think I got up to like six foot, 280. I mean, I was getting winded walking to my car. Horrible obstructive sleep apnea, stuff like that. I'm like, all right,

I got to make a change. Got to get, something changed. You got to do something. And got certified as a nutritional coach just to try to figure out what to do. And ended up getting a personal trainer certification. And I thought that would be the gold standard of getting me jacked. And I'm like, well, now I know how to teach you how to do it have been in reach.

But, you know, that's all right. But got into the science-based lifting stuff following Dr. Mike Isertel. I was his biggest fanboy at the time. No shade to anyone who is right now. God bless you if you can do that. After a year, I just got burnt out. I was like, if I have to count to 20 one more time, I'm going to lose my mind. Is 20 optimal?

Are you optimal at 20? How's the felt load? Felt load was wonderful. I don't know if 20 was the number. It was maybe physically optimal, but emotionally and spiritually, it was just soul crushing. I mean, that was, golly. I don't know a ton about science-based lifting. All I know is, I don't like it.

That's fair. but if you can do it consistently, you know, more power to you. But, so last August, I was like, all right,

I got to change something. Squattober's coming up. I'll work up, get back to some barbells, get under, get under some heavy loads and see what that's like. And the Squatober just fell back in love with squad vint and deadlift. I was like,

this is my calling. Okay. I see it. So threw away all the pencil neck, pencil neck nonsense and started, you know, hoisting heft and heaving heavy loads. Like my, you know, my idol, the boogs.

And just numbers kept going up. I mean, followed a Bryce Lewis program, did an Alex Brownie program. I mean, kept going up. I did a meet in early April and hit all-time PRs and felt like I had more in the tank and met so many cool people out there. I mean, I had so much fun out there. It was such a great time. And, yeah, so I'll just back to.

the squat bench and deadlift. And unfortunately, through Facebook marketplace, it looks like I'm getting a little bit of some strong man implements. Yay. I may do some of that stuff on Saturdays. It's fun. If you have a yard and you can go outside and do some of that shit, or, I mean, you pretty much have to do it outside.

It sounds like you're not, I don't know that what you'd be doing. Maybe you could do your bag over bar. If you have a crash pad to drop it on or something. Or, well, I guess it would be dropping on a stall mat. You'd be fine. So you could set up in a bar. bow in the rack and strap it to the Jacobs and do Bag River Bar inside the house.

That's probably about all you could do inside. Yeah. I think I'm going to take it to the field outside all of the other condos. And so I can just flex on all of my neighbors. There is a, to anybody listening that maybe hasn't heard me talk about it before, Scantz sent me a thing that was essentially a starting strong man. And it's the idea of using a barbell to train strong man. So it's out there. You can do it.

As Scants likes to say, just stay strong. And you can do anything. Or he's acquired some of the stuff. He just can't use it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I got the what the gentleman over at Massonomics in the early days with their Sputink ad reads influenced me to get a set of the swing set straps from Sputink. So I can emulate a yoke.

Nice. That's been killer. So it's been. I do a yoke walk is fucking. What's funny is when I was at the meet and they brought out the yoke for the bag over bar the first thing I thought is I'm going to go walk with that yoke I can pick that up I could I can pick that up yeah nice well I am glad you've uh you know he didn't let that knee in how's the knee now pretty much do you so you get a little flare up every now and then or you just

throw the old knee sleeve on and slap it and say good enough at every now and then but I just got a I think I just got to keep stretching out my quads and my hamstrings is like who who knew that actually stretching keeps you from getting injured like I obviously didn't but I still I still don't do any of that. So that might explain a few things. Maybe. Yeah, there's a, who is it that was saying just stretched during the workout? There was somebody I was watching that was, oh, who's that guy?

Michael Hearn. Oh, yeah, yeah. He doesn't stretch before or after you stretch during the workout by just extending the each, each rep, right? And, I mean, he's not a weak man. He's not a small dude. Absolutely not. No, I could probably learn anything or two from them.

Yeah. No, go ahead, Keith. I was just going to ask how old you were. I always like to, you know, get a reference to how old someone is. Oh, I'm 30. Nice. Okay. We're interviewing babies.

And for reference, your username does say William on your Zoom. So if you use that professionally, they're still going to keep calling you, Will. William, that is. Thank you for the heads up. I got to change that immediately. Yeah, I don't know who it is. I don't know who we're talking to. I'm not sure who you're talking to either.

There's a stranger in my apartment. Yeah, actually, that leads into my next one. So we talked about all the different Williams that we've met. How did getting shocked at your family's farm really help with any of that? Oh, man, I was... This might be the CTE, but I'm not sure what you're talking about. So, after college, before he had a job, he helped a job. he helped around our 100-year-old farmhouse.

One job was switching all of the outlets from two to three-prong, but nothing was... Oh. He may have been shocked a few times. Okay, I got it now. Yeah, so my parents moved into an old, old 1920s farmhouse, and I had just enough construction experience

from working in the field seasonally as a really half-ass carpenter that they wanted to replace all the outlets that were, like, two-prong outlets to the modern three-ponged. plug, three prongs. And that house was wired almost entirely by my stepbrother, or stepdad's father

years and years ago. So that place was not to codes. There was stuff in there I had never seen before. There were circuits in there. There was electrical outlets that I had no idea where they went, where they ended. I hit all the switches. And I can tell you that they have a old like twist fuse style breaker where you have to physically twist the fuses out and put them back in. Oh, the glass ones.

Yeah, the glass ones. Yeah, yeah. And there was a solid week where almost every single time that one would pop and go out, I would go back downstairs. I would try to throw the main breaker, which never turned off for whatever reason because it was probably 40 years old. I would go and twist out one of the fuses. No matter how careful I was, I would. just get shocked by it every time. And I mean, it was like arm was numb up to the shoulder.

I felt tingling in my hand for an hour. I'm like, I feel like this is how you get superpowers or not. I'm still trying to figure that out. You know, one of these days they might come out like Spider-Man, but, um, but like you're just a one, one 10 for a half a second shouldn't be that bad, but I guess I'm holding on to it the whole time that might do it. But you're just a, you're a super farmhouse. Like, that's all you do.

Like, your superpower is just to be visually appealing and ideally relaxing. Yeah. You know, I think that I'm stealing that 100%. There's no electrical superpowers. You just turn into a farmhouse. And people are like, like, oh, I like it here. I just look great on Instagram and people feel welcomed by my presence. Also, high maintenance.

another great yeah yeah uh keith you're up yeah you're you're highlighting stuff for me oh it's just it's it's not that i didn't want to talk about it um all right uh a lot of people are into this i know you you do the little figurine things the warhammer stuff yep i've known matt for like five years i still don't know what fuck warhammers is it a game or they've literally explained it on this probably probably but like for anyone that's listening new that doesn't know that we're code unpaid you know for the first time that explain Warhammer in 90 seconds. Oh, geez. I need 90 minutes.

It's not just a game. It's a lifestyle. So you build a little plastic, overpriced little miniatures, and you paint them, and you put them on a table. You make them fight. And there's like just people, they're just regular people. You have aliens and robots and robot aliens. And it's just a big mess. And I think most people just like to build them and then just stare at the little.

jacked little men that they paint and just kind of covet them. You're like, hmm, pleased by this one. And then you forget all about it and you just go buy $500 worth of plastic later on. I mean, that's Warhammer in a nutshell.

Yeah, but what's like the source though? Like is that I am sure. It's a tabletop game I think. Is the word to use it? Yeah. It is all the game that you play. It's just, it's adjacent to playing like the card games. Risk. I think is the closest

thing I would compare it to. That's kind of what I was thinking. Okay. Yeah, it started out as a board game. Like, I can't even remember where, but it expanded and there's books and movies and video games. So it's just, it's just tabled game. But all the other stuff that's come after it. So it's, it's a game that influenced

movies and books, not movies and books that influenced the game. Okay, cool. Yeah. Good to know. Yeah. Good to deal. And then, are you still doing a little D&D with the boys, or was that just a COVID thing? Every once and a while. The COVID thing was a ton of fun. Looking back on it, I texted my buddy who is the dungeon master for that.

I was like, hey, man, was I sober for a single session? And he said, no, Will, you weren't. And you seemed like it. It's like, ah, so sorry. Hell yeah. So that was my job. My job was just to be drunk and unreasonable and have a good time. And I think I brought immaculate vibes.

So we're, we have a game going since. since 2020 that we've been waiting. We have one session to finish it off, but we haven't played in four years maybe because the DM decided to be selfish and go to med school and get busy. And then get more selfish and get married.

Even worse. And he just had a baby like two weeks ago. Congrats on the funeral, bud. Yeah, I was like, congrats on the funeral, dude. When am I going to finish my character arc? He's like, ah, it's just not looking good, bud. That's really funny. Did you listen to our D&D episode?

I did. I really enjoyed it. I was just, just Nate shouting prolapse multiple times. I'm going to be honest, I was listening to all that work, and I probably looked like I was having a seizure in my cubicle, trying to keep myself from laughing.

I'm surprised no one came over to check on me. I was just losing my mind. I was at work today. just working alone, which doesn't usually get to happen, but I had a solid three hours of building skids, speaking of Vena Carpenter, literally just building skids for three hours. And I started like thinking about like what else sucks about Serge Brothers. And I came up with all of these like, like, he's really proud of his Spotify playlist and wants you to know. Like just this like, just this like little minor douchebag stuff. I like a good Spotify playlist. But do you like, would you go to a part? and be like, hey, hey, do you want to see my Spotify? No, that would be a duchy move. I share mine every now and then, but I don't know, only because people will like it.

Because it's got a lot of follows that is, but I guess I'm a doucheback. But yes, I do what you mean? I wouldn't bring it up. Here I am, like, trying to have a time. And Keith is like, well, what if I stepped on that joke? It wasn't a, it was a, you know. Maybe one of us is a certain.

brothers. I just don't know which. Neither of us are served brothers. That's true. All right. As I've butchered his segue, I'll go. So you had a double date that ended up with you just hanging out with a male

entertainer the rest of the evening? What the fuck? I must have missed that part. In parentheses, in parentheses, a fairly appropriate story. So I don't know if it's appropriate as in like, because it doesn't end bad, or because it's under embarrassing facts?

It's appropriate. I, um, yeah, Kelly, okay, I was probably like 21. I was on Tinder, matched with a girl who was a CrossFit coach, which was the first red flag. I should have known. Nailed it. Should have boarded right then. And, uh, she was like, hey, me and my friend are going to go downtown to Broadway,

the main party street. Um, and she's got a date. You know, you want to come join us. Like, sure. So we set up a double date. I'd head on down there and, and meet them. And, you know, we're having good time. We do a little pre-gaming.

We head down to the bars. And the girls are taking point. They're leading. And I'm talking with this guy. And we're getting to know each other a minute because they're, the girls are super, like, focused on trying to find the best place to hang out, which is, it's like a Friday night in Nashville. You're not going to find a good, good spot to hang out. It's all busy.

And anyways, he and I end up alone for a second. They're in the bathroom. I'm talking with him. And this, this dude is, like, shredded. I mean, he's like, you know, 6% body fat. I mean, absolutely jacked. I'm talking. I'm like, hey, man, what do you do?

Oh, I'm a, I'm a real estate agent. I was like, oh, cool, that's, that's good for you. You do well. He's like, yeah, I do all right, but, you know, my side gig really pays the bills. I'm like, oh, what's the side gig? He's like, I'm a nude waiter. I'm going to be sick. What is that?

And he explains that he gets hired. He and his catering company get hired. by patroret parties, a book club every now and then to essentially serve cocktails and yeah, he does. Yeah, and wearing only a bow tie and cufflinks. And I'm like, oh, hell yeah, dude. I mean, you're super jacks. If you got it, flaunt it, go get that bag, man.

That's all good. So we're having a good time. And girls come out, we go back to going to the bars, trying to find a spot. night goes on and eventually like hey we're going to go to the bathroom okay that's fine we'll be right here and uh 20 minutes go by and turn to him i'm like they're not coming back or are they and he's like no no they're gone it's like that was my first time getting like it ditched or whatever and i was like oh it's kind of bummed to say out have good time so we uh hopped a couple bars saw some shows got to know each other

never exchanged contact information or anything I probably stayed out of another two hours that night and I was like man this is a great time and he's like yeah see you around and just like walks off in a random direction I was like I

okay bye man I'll see you and just walk back to the car and girls cars were gone like that's fine and I was like I just spent a good amount of time with a male entertainer, and I have all my money.

So I think I came out on top this night. I think my major concern, of course, was just the health problems of having somebody naked deliver you food. Yeah, I don't think that's like... You have to carry the tray real high. Yeah, I don't think that serves safe qualified. Yeah, my only problem with all of that was just like, what if he wears a hairnet though

right yeah instead of a food handler a card you have a dick handle or card like I don't know how that works out show is yours we can get something made you know somebody's gonna make a Keith dick handler card and put it in Discord now oh I can't wait

that was a good one sometimes my I do love when funny funny or embarrassing facts actually has some good stuff. So this one, someone actually did research and said, I listened to an episode so that I, without like going back in deep diving, I don't know who submitted this,

but someone listened to an episode of ours and basically said to ask you about a poop story. Oh, God. Oh, no. I'm going to get an allergy pill while you tell this. Perfect. All right, Keith. Entirely up to you.

You and me. Oh, no, I'm all for it. I, um, at, so I got, I got sick, but a couple years ago, I was feeling weird at work one day, just kind of kept getting worse until I got home. And by the time I was home, I mean, I lost all my strength, massive fatigue, cold sweats, shivering. Like, I was like, I am not in a good place.

So, you know, took a nap, tried to see if I could sleep it off, got worse. I couldn't drink water, tasted like dirt and couldn't eat food, hurt my stomach immediately. I was like, all right, this is really not good. I'm going to, excuse me, I'm going to sleep, sleep it off tonight, see how it goes. And so put the dark to bed, I crawl in bed, I fall asleep, and I wake up probably an hour and a half later. And I am soaked in sweat on my stomach, like face down in my bed, just absolutely miserable. It felt like I'm dying and just bloated like crazy. And I'm like, I'm, you know, got a little too much gas.

And in my mind, I'm like, I'll just, I'll just let a little, let a little pressure out. And I hit the pressure release valve and I'll be safe. It's okay. I'll be careful. And I thought I was successful. I, mission accomplished, gentlemen, let's go back to sleep. And then the warmth started spreading across my legs. I'm just laying there, sweaty, cold, miserable.

I'm just thinking, oh, God, I've shit myself. Oh, no. Oh, please. no, not like this. And I got up and luckily I was wearing shorts. So those shorts went straight in the trash. My business was like a fire hose out the back. I was like, I am calling out of work tomorrow.

I'm not going in. Showered myself off, laid down some towels, went back to bed. And probably for the next 24 hours. Now I think about it, I need to reach out to the main love interest of Lean Beef Patty, our friend Ground Beef Gary, because he made a comment a while ago that if you poop more than seven times in a 24-hour period,

you have an invitation to Mommy snack pack. And I need to know if that's retroactive or not, because I was probably on that porcelain thrown once every 60 minutes for 24 hours. It was the worst. It was a bad time. But I survived. I got out of it, you know,

had that. I just need to figure out who shared that way. Did you get the dream about having to use the bathroom? No, I was, I was awake and conscious. I was just like, uh, just a little, you know, I trusted it. That's, that was the problem. Yeah, you can't, you can't trust it. Didn't sound right.

Yeah, I know, I know any time it happens, it's, you're dreaming and your body's going, wake up, you have to go, wake up, you have to go. But you're, like, your brain's like, yeah. nah you just do it in your sleep you'll be fine like I know that happens not to me of course

yeah to other people to other people they've heard about it they told me stories yeah yeah oh man that was actually a good one

that's actually a good one that's actually a good all right um so what do you like a golf savant absolutely not I am I am god awful at golf

I peaked when I was 10 and I won a little like child's tournament. And ever since there has been downhill, I, I like, you're going to have, you're going to have hard luck finding more slices in a cake factory. I mean, it's just a terrible time out there. I got invited to a tournament through work through a subcontractor. And they're like, and it was a group scramble thing. And I go, how's it going to go? I'm like, you'll, you'll see.

And I mean, every shot. right in the woods, right in the water, right in the woods. So trying to pick it up. But apparently it's pretty heavy. But you won a tournament at the age of seven. Somewhere around there. I got to go find the trophy and display it because that was probably my greatest achievement in my life.

And I will hold on to that until the day I die. That's right. So any other, I mean, it's be hard to top the male entertainer. But as someone, you know, that's used Tinder apparently for a while, Tinder's mentioned like nine times in the notes. Oh, gee. Maybe I might be exaggerated, but I've seen it a few times.

Is there another podcast-friendly, funny story? It doesn't have to be embarrassing. It could just be a funny tale of the apps. Like, I'm way too old to have ever been on a dating app. Like dating apps for me were, like, finding people that were cute on MySpace and messaging them and stuff that were, like, within your city. So, like, I've never been. been on actual like any of the other apps.

Yeah, I remember sending likes on Facebook in high school being like, surely she'll notice me. No, absolutely not. I was on it for a little bit. I recently got off it because I was like, I can't anymore. This is, it's, it's tough. I'm trying to think of a good one. There was a first date where we went and got drinks and she spent the entire time. telling me how lucky I was to be going on a date with her.

She usually only dates older men. And she was one year older than me. I was like, okay, this is going, sorry, not great. And the entire time, she was either lying through her teeth and telling the most insane lies she could or has like zero self-preservation at all. Because there's stories, she told a story that there was apparently she went on a date with a guy who, was like some software developer and this town over and took her on a hike and like walked and walked through the woods and ended up in some clearing in the woods and there was an animal on a stump dead and there was swassikas carved in places and he was saying weird things and then she just kind of dropped that story really quickly and I was like I don't know what to do with this information like do I need to call someone like is do I need to call one of those like real investigation podcasts Are you a victim? Are you okay? There's that. And then just like, you know, the apps are based around texting. And that's how you get your foot into it. That's how you, you know, kind of make a connection. And there's just been lots of times where the conversation's just been very one-sided, which I'm sure everyone goes through if you've dealt with it enough. But I still remember one when I was in college. had she had like you know i enjoy lifting and going to the gym on her profile and so other conversations

weren't working getting one word answers um and i'm like oh i see you like going to the gym i i do too sometimes what kind of stuff do you do like bodybuilding or crossfit or what and a response was just shoulders like cool which great i'm sure you want to talk about joey yeah i was like okay cool great i'm just going to go leave now and just yeah, leave. But I don't know. It's just kind of some unfortunate for states

and, you know, I met some wonderful people. I was in a kind of a three-year long relationship from someone I met on Tinder and things are fine, but a coworker kind of put it to me and I was like, well, getting on the apps is like putting yourself

on the clearance section at the grocery store. I'm like, oh, you're right. I am a USDA prime grade slab of meat. Ain't clearance. Oh, no. What do you keep throwing? Are you throwing for the dog? Yeah, so he...

Hell yeah. So he is a little stoned right now. We had to give him a little test of some drowsy medication before his appointment next week because he hates needles. But he loves cat treats. And so anytime he is barking or growling or is just being a nuisance, I have these little tiny, what flavors? It's a surf and turf steak and lobster-flavored cat treats that he just loves chewing on and just got to get him distracted. That's so cute. Did I ever tell you that surf and turf is supposed to be my original knuckle tattoos?

I think that would be great. Yeah. Yeah, I still have a chance because I have like more knuckles, right? but oh there's plenty of space there you can fit it in is anything else jumping out at you i don't know where we're at on time are we still good i don't even it's 830 we can do whatever the world is our oyster but if we want to go to bed at a reasonable time um i think we can go to a little fmk is it a game you're familiar with big will we can always let's see is there anything down in addition i still i got to make a whole i got this

i got this thing with nate i asked him to do stuff and he says put it all on a list and then i don't put it on a list and then i forget about it for six months and then i'd bring up another thing. He's like, did you put in that list yet and give it to me and like the full breakdown exactly what you want? And I'm like, no, sir, I have not. Captain spreadsheet over here can't go a list. I keep having these random thoughts of like, oh, I forgot. I want to move additional info above all the games, so I don't miss it because we like to go games right into other games, but it's all. Yeah, I think I'm good. FMK. All right. The notes were a little confusing. Do you like Chick-fil-A or not?

Not a huge fan. Okay. Well, then I don't have anything for, then I don't. ruined my game. Okay, but I'll just go with him. Oh, shoot. No, no, you're good. Maybe it could have been in the, the interpretation of the app talking to me about your notes because apparently I still think your dog's name is Pam

every time I think of your dog from now on forever. Pam and cheese. Yeah, Pam and cheese. That works for it. Oh, one of these days. We'll go with the layup one. So, FMK. Nope.

You talking to me? Nope. Chipotle. Taco Bell. I don't know if it's a typo. Is it supposed to be Cinco de Mayo or is it, it's typed out of Sindai D. Mayo. Oh, it's a Cinco de Mayo. It's a local Mexican restaurant.

Typeoed there. Ooh. Okay, that's a tough one. All right. I... You got the druthers. Using my druthers, I'm going to have to say... I'm going to say I'm going to have to F Taco Bell.

that just seems like the epitome of one last good time. Just a great time. I think in the decision I would shock friends and family members, I'm going to have to kill Chipotle. They've gotten a little too greedy over the last little bit with that protein side nonsense where they're like, pay $5, you get a scoop of chicken. Yeah, it's like a whole bowl. It's literally like three ounces of chicken for,

it's more than a dollar an ounce. You can literally get an entire oven roasted chicken at Costco for $9 Canadian. Absolutely. Oh, I can get a bowl with two scoops of chicken, all this stuff for like $11, $12. Or I can get two scoops of chicken for $10. I'm like,

this is just nonsense. So even though I've been a diehard fan, and they honestly am waiting for that brand deal, one of these days. I got to kill Chipotle. And then I'm going to marry Cinco de Mayo. It's the, there's a chain, but it's the local Mexican restaurant. Their margaritas are strong and cheap. Their food is pretty decent but consistent.

And I don't think I can go my life without it. What's your, you know, death row meal from there? Ooh, it's called the fajitas Texana, which is fajitas. with chicken, steak, and shrimp with all the fixings and the tortillas and get a little, get a little cup of queso and some chips and a pitcher of margarita for like eight bucks. Golden. I mean, great time. Love it.

Sounds like you've had many a first date there. Unfortunately. Well, for eight. At least you didn't waste too much money. Absolutely not. No. It's the best part. All right.

What you got for? I don't know if you were in our Discord today, but you probably saw me talking about Jason Statham movies. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And, like, it's so funny that I think my wife's reaction was the best because I was like, it was like 930. She's like, why aren't you in bed?

And I'm like, because Amazon Prime has an infinite amount of Jason Statham movies. And they're all the same movie. Yeah. I was a special agent. I don't want to be anymore, but you're going to make me be one to protect whoever. It's usually a woman or a girl or whatever it is, right?

And that's every Jason State the movie since Crank. Yeah, absolutely. Everyone with a gun in a five mile radius gets karate chopped in the neck and he saves the girl. Absolutely.

So I want to know your top four so bad it's, oh, I got to finish it. It is your top four so bad it's good movies. But I just want to say, I think my wife went, you're going to watch all of them,

aren't you? And I was like, you're freaking right, I'm going to. Okay. I'm going to watch every single one of these. movies I hate. I'm going to hate watch all of them.

Perfect. As you should. Oh, okay. Okay, I'll top of the dome. Number one has to go to Velocirpaster. Yes, that is in the notes. Of course, Velocin pastor has to be on there. There's a second one coming out. I've petitioned for my local cinema to screen it. I'm pretty sure they send

email saying back no, but I haven't opened it. So I don't know. I'll figure out one way. anyway, it better be playing. Absolutely. Velas Fasters is great. It's got Catholicism and dinosaurs and ninjas and

Pimp-nade and Frankie Mermaid. What else could you want? Second up, Bird Demic. Probably the movie that got me into the genre of so bad it's good.

It's, I think it was made in like the early 2010s, maybe. it was i think it was supposed to be some college student project about like environmentalism and saving the planet and stuff but it's just awful the sound quality is terrible the script is awful the pacing's the worst and all the birds that the movie's about look like they're like Microsoft clip art that they just dragged across the screen hell yeah um it is it's a phenomenal movie i i would always recommend it um Okay, one One that we've mentioned, I would put this in the So Bad It's Good is

the American dubbed version Kung Pow Enter the Fist. Hell yeah. A classic. I quote it daily and I'm the only person in my workplace that has seen it. Oh, phenomenal. It's been a hot minute and I honestly need to watch it again,

but it's just so good. I see clips with it all the time. I'm like, I need to see this movie again. This is, it's something. the soul is requesting. And then fourth ooh,

I got to go with Tommy Wazos, the room. Really? The room. So bad it's good. It's one of my favorite, mostly because of the backstory. It's,

um, no one knows. The guy who wrote it, produced it, starred in it, sold it, premiered it, Tommy was O,

no, one knows who he is. No one knows where he's from. He keeps saying he's from Louisiana but he has the strongest Polish accent. He does, yep. And uses like Polish slang in the movie all the time and

he's like, no, I'm from Louisiana and has robbed, oh, the Leprocon movies in the chat, Leopard movies are up there. They're phenomenal. All of those two. But Pam, Pam, Trey. He's a good point.

he is he's just annoying sometimes but yeah the rats are yeah yeah yeah but uh yeah the the room he I don't know how it got made no one knows how it got made he says he got his wealth he funded the whole thing he said he got his wealth from importing like fine leathers from South

Korea and property investments in San Francisco and spent three and a half million dollars on a billboard no one wanted to see and just it's a chef's kiss it's marvelous movie it's great

yeah I hit the oh hey mark all the time oh yeah yeah I do have to warn people who are gonna watch it for the first time I'm like the first 15 minutes there are going to be three sex scenes back to back to back

with two different guys and the same woman so just like you can skip that if you want it's not really important I don't know why it's there it's just weird but Tommy Wazzo is an interesting genius

So back to the leprechaun movies. I think that it's interesting because the first one actually was supposed to be serious. Yeah. And it sucked in a way that everybody loved. And then they were like, well, let's get stupid. Yeah. And then you get lepricon in the hood. Then you got all these other stupid movies.

Yeah. Yeah. There was a big star. It wasn't Sarah Michelle Geller. Jennifer Aniston and Leonardo to Caprily. Yeah. Yeah. yeah.

Like, I don't know if it's the same one, but they were like, she was probably 20 and he was like 10 or something. If it was reversed, he would have dated her. For at least 15 years. I did remember something I want to ask if I didn't want to cut you. Did you, sorry, were you in the middle of? Oh, no, we'll talk about movies all day if you let us. Yeah. So I kind of buried the lead.

You are going to be at Lift Hard Live Easy. I don't think I knew that earlier, but obviously, mentioned it. So that'll be awesome. We're super excited about that. We essentially do a little impromp to Road to the Lift Hard-Live Easy, but specifically, one of the additional info submissions was you have a goal right now, and I'm assuming on open powerlifting is what the goal is, do you want to tell us about that and then kind of roll into a road to Lift-Hard Leavisie? Yeah. So the goal right now is to be the strongest hardwood on open powerlifting. I went through and scrubbed every record from everyone with the last name Harwood.

None of them are blood relatives. They're all over the place. They haven't met a single one of them, but I have a nice spreadsheet of everyone's biggest lifts and all of their totals and their dots. And the goal is to one day have the highest total and the highest dots of every Harwood in the world on Open Power Lift. So right now, I did the math.

If I can hit a 1700 pound total, which is not light work at a like a 240 body weight, that would give me the dots total, which was set by some guy in England in like 2013, but also the total record, which was, which that might change because that was set by a absolute monster of a Harwood in New Zealand who came in at like, he weighed in at 3.5. 42 and put up a 1698 total. So that might change. But yeah, one of these days I'll be able to call myself the strongest Hardwood and it's going to be great. I'm going to make myself a little championship belt or excuse me a title. And it's going to be a good time. Do you have a broken down by even like where are you one?

Where do you rank in Harwoods in the American only ranking? I couldn't tell you an American only ranking. That could be like a little motivation. Because, like, say, I don't know, I don't know what your total is yet, because we haven't got to the road there yet. But, like, if 17 is not achievable or at least not anytime soon, what is the goal for the American record? Because, like, people's, I mean, that is a thing and strong man. And it is the American world record of this, that and the other. American world record.

You could have it. It's still the American. American world record. I know. Shut up. Hey, our baseball series is the world series. You know? American could do what they want.

Sometimes I forget. Americans forget the rest of the world. exist. Sometimes we forget to. Yeah, yeah. The American record, if you will. The American Harwood record. I haven't broken it down. That's a good idea. I'm going to break it down by American. Let's know the Discord next week and

we'll do. We'll see where you're at. Right now, I, I was going to say right now I'm number nine in total, but number 13 in dots. So then how's training, like training specifically like where are your numbers at? What are you looking to hit? And what have you been

most enjoying about training for? a big competition and heading out to the dean yeah um so last april was my first powerfitting meet in uh i think about eight and a half years and i hit um i did get red lighted for rushing a rack command on my squat and bench so i'm i'm trying to get those back it was a 440 squat and a 285 bench um but i know i can hit those in comp and then i hit a 501 deadlift um i got three white whites on that so i'm psyched about that so those Those are the goal right now. And if I beat those, I'll be psyched.

But yeah, the training's going well. I think I hit four lifts a week doing squad bench deadlift. I'm doing Alex Bromley's Bull Mastiff program right now, just following that spreadsheet. And then on Saturdays, I'll do a little Strongman Saturday, do some. A peaking block? I mean, you're obviously peaking for the, the power of the meet were like five weeks, four or five weeks out right now.

Yeah, yeah, I just started peeking for it. So I'll be, I'll be good to go. But yeah, things are moving, moving good,

feeling good, making sure I stretch and stay hydrated and don't be dumb this time around. So I'm looking forward to it and hoping to put up some decent numbers in the dean. Had you already, so when you came to the Arnold, were you already signed up for Lift Hard Leveeasy or was the Eagle would put you over the edge?

Because I don't think there was a, where did you end up getting a, a last minute spot then? Because you wouldn't have been able to sign up. By the Arnold, it was already filled, I believe. Yeah. So how did, I guess walk me through that. I think I'm trying. Yeah. Um, no, I was, I, by the time that the Lipsartrely easy was announced, I was all in on

massonomics and the crew stuff. I was like, this is like these are. You signed up before meeting anybody like in person. Yeah. I was like, this is a great time, great vibes, great people. Um, so I actually, the morning that, the day before the powerlifting opened up for registration, my boss scheduled a meeting at 10 o'clock. And I walked into his office and said, hey, I need you push that back 15 minutes.

And he goes, why? I go, I need to sign up for a powerlifting meet. He goes, you go to like three of those a year. I'm like one a year. First of all, second year, it's the lift hard to live easy. It's like, it's important. Like, it's very important. He's like, I'll push it back.

I was like, okay. Thank you. I appreciate it. That's awesome. But after that, I had to explain to him in that. meeting what the lift hard of easy was in front of everybody just him and like two

co-workers and I'm like I I'm in a cult I'm in a cult it did sell out pretty quick so you had you had to sell out timely you know being timely was important yeah so I was super psyched to get a spot to go lift there so I'm lifting in the

I think in the two the men's open 275 so I'll be lifting with a big Brandon O'Doyle rules good dude yeah so I'm I'm psyched that's wild to have like joined crew in November and signed up for a power lifting meet in like January like that's to go drop like two grand to get out to Aberdeen and have a you know a four day weekend with the boys that you hadn't met yet the cool thing is so at the Eagle there was like there was like 40 of us at the Eagle and probably 30 at 25 of those at least are going to the to the Dean so yeah like that had to help like solidify your um Okay, cool. I did make a good decision to sign up. I imagine that thought went through your head or something of that variation. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, everyone there was super nice and welcoming. I don't think I met a single person there that made me feel like I wasn't supposed to be there.

I mean, everyone was like... Just Jake, right? Yeah, just Jake. Just dropping it on me that, you know, I'm putting my foot in my mouth. No, we're kidding. But, like, even meeting Tommy and Tanner was huge. Like I, they came in and said hi to me. And I think Tanner and I were in a conversation about something talking about being from Nashville.

And he got pulled away to something else, you know, some other conversation. I was like, oh, okay, I'll probably never see him again tonight. That's whatever. It's fine. Okay, see you. And then like 15 minutes later, I'm staying around. And he comes up. You're like, so, Nashville.

I was like, so you remember we were having a conversation? You remember we were talking about? You're going to follow up. I'm like, I. what kind of social circles my hanging out in where that's not the norm? Like,

who am I hanging out with? The realization when like, you realize they're just cool dudes that like are your friends and like aren't these like people like, they're just they're not. They're just, they're just dudes that are our friends,

but we consume so much of their content that it's just like. At the meet I was at, Chris actually said like, do you talk to Tanner a lot? And that was such a weird. question because of course I do. Several days a week.

Yeah, right? I was like a DM or a text thread going or a group chat going. Yeah, but I guess to other people and like, like Will saying right now, that's different because I was like, well, of course I do. Like he, yeah, we wouldn't be here doing this podcast without him. That's what I said. Yeah. And like we, I've known Tanner now for over four years.

Right. So yeah, that is, that is the. Yeah, I've, I've been to a like a discourse. meetup before in Nashville and it was like put on by you know three people kind of uh it was for something nerdier but we got it was a little anime meetup uh i was like you know let me see what these people are about and uh it was very clickish the people kind of had their groups already pre-made and the people who kind of ran the discord were like kind of holier than now like you don't don't really talk to us kind of short i was like these guys are kind of douchebags like i

i'm not coming back here and so then to go meet crew and everyone would be like hey will hey big will it's like oh shoot okay i i can get behind this i'm all for it nice uh the arnold in general what was your takeaway as far as like just the overwhelming amount of people and that whole shitty experience but then like having the meeting all the crew in the yeah i um so that The experience in general was very overwhelming, but I think I had a leg up on a lot of people being six foot tall and like 260 pounds. People kind of just naturally parted the seas for me because I was just physically larger than a lot of the broccoli heads, which was nice. But man, the lions were crazy. There were just too many people there.

I just like saw too many influencers trying to make content. I think at one point I saw like two girls standing on some counter for some supplement brand screaming at people and people throwing energy drinks at them. I was like, I don't know what kind of marketing this is. I don't want it. I'm out. So that was overwhelming. But meeting crew was great. Heath was the first one I met.

I was over at the USAPL booth watching the meet. And he came over and struck up a conversation with me. we started talking and that just became the unofficial meeting point at one point where people was kind of started gathering around. So started meeting crew and I was kind of torn between, you know, meeting all the new internet friends and spending time with my buddy there who I don't think I get to see except once every like two or three years. So I tried to split up my time. But meeting crew was great every time I was wearing my, little use barbell shirt.

And anytime I saw someone, they immediately used in their pocket. It's like, here's a sticker, bud. Yeah. How's it going? I was like, all right, I need to get stickers now. So I actually just got my plate snacks order of 100 stickers. And I'll be ready for a lift hard to live easy and ready to discount code for them. Code unpaid, of course.

Yeah. Save some cash. And you could just send me one of those. Oh, absolutely. Just saying. You know, I'll shoot you DM. Yeah, buddy. I just, one quick, so unrelated to Will, I just went to go pee a little bit ago.

And it's, it's eight, it's almost nine o'clock at night and fully expecting to be pitch black when I opened up the door to go down the hallway to go the bathroom. It's fucking. I just got the sun is still in the face with the sun. And I was like, what in the shit? It shocked me, like how bright it was. It's in my house. You're, you're close enough. Did you see the Northern Lights last night or the night before?

I remember seeing something about it on the face, on the news or something. And then I was like, oh, it says we can see it in this part of this country. and I was like, I never looked. No, I went out and I couldn't see. I'm jealousy. I'll get to see the northern lights. Every time it comes down this far south, it just gets cloudy and I'll never get to see it.

Like, I sit up to 3 a.m. for nothing. Thanks. So the key to doing that, I'll let everybody know, is you set your phone on a tripod or on a stand, and you set the exposure for as long as it'll go, and you take a picture of the sky. And you should still be able to see it through the clouds.

So there's like varying versions of the northern lights. there's the naked eye and then there's the camera eye. So next time that happens, try that trick because you still might get a picture. I'll let you know if it works or not next time. If it doesn't work, you're going to get a strongly awarded letter in the mail. With stickers. With stickers, absolutely.

If it doesn't work on the Northern Lights, it might work on your male entertainer friend, though. If I can find him. Misconnections. Don't ever, you don't remember his business, his name. I'm not going to share it here. Hi guys, this might be weird and not sexual, but I'd really like to meet so and so again. You had an employee seven years ago.

His name was Tom. He was my friend. Look, if I show up to the dean with a plus one, don't ask questions. All right. Joey, do you want to hit them with the affiliates there? Yeah, the new ones. We got Barbell Rescue. That's code unpaid going really well.

Actually, at the meet I was at, I was kind of pissed. They weren't using Barbell Rescue. I kind of wish I'd brought one watching them take a toothbrush-style thing to the barbell. Fucking rookies. I mean, Christy Hawkins is not a rookie. And it is a bit of a funny story the whole time. They brought out the deadlift bar for deadlifts.

And I knew Anastasia was up first. And I texted Steve and I'm like, make them clean that bar. That bar's disgusting. And I sent him like two messages. And then like with one minute before Christy went out and cleaned it. And I was like, never mind she got it.

Yeah. It was awful. home gym con of course use your code unpaid especially if you're going and don't have your tickets already and uh gym radar does not have a code because you don't need one it is completely free if you're a certified gym you get the next level there are certain tiers but you still get general access just by signing up add your gym you can do reviews you can add some photos uh you know case and point we're going to talk about uh big will's gym here where he has has eight photos because he is indeed certified with a really cool version of the certified flag.

I wanted to bring that up at some point today. He has both certifications, the green and the red, and what he did was fold it in half diagonally so that the flag is both flags. That's really cool. I pointed that out earlier to Keith and didn't get to bring it up. And those are, of course, the sponsors for today and our affiliates. it's kind of cool to switch it up and like hear what the other person says about the other you know we got in a rhythm doing the same thing for you know the last several however many

months since we switch things up so all right big will unpaid or underrated a game you're familiar with uh absolutely do you can do unpaid is bad because no one wants to be unpaid and underrated it's very self-explanatory absolutely so unpaid or underrated i don't know if this is a typo or not but protein fitness question Protein Fitness Maybe honestly, you know what it is It's probably someone didn't put a comma Which that would be annoying

Oh Like that's just not a helpful game for So scratch that Unpaid or underrated bidetes Oh Oh underrated For sure This is one of the greatest

Luxuries in life man can afford himself I think it was I've been going through the backlog And I think it was big Andy was talking about the days. So I heard him say talking about the days. I'm like, oh, hell yeah, my people.

I, yeah, they're the greatest thing ever. They will, they will ruin the pooping experience for you for the rest of your life. I had a chance to use a nice one years ago in a random Knoxville hotel while I was in school, and I haven't had the

chance to buy myself a nice one, because I I'm gonna, I don't want to get the unheated $20 one off of Amazon. I've used that before and it was just, you know, Poseidon's icy kiss for the back end. That was just not a good time. Oh, so you'd have to like tie into a, you'd have to have a whole mixing valve. Then you'd have to tie into your sinks, hot and cold water and then have a mixing valve of some sort. Because you can't just run straight up like 150 up your ass.

Oh, no, they, or you're saying, It has a little reservoir that it heats itself. Yeah, yeah, it has a heated reservoir. So the plug and, well, I guess, yeah, the thing that's stopping me right now, yeah, you need a plug for it. The thing that's stopping me now is the plug. It's on the other end of the bathroom. And so I'm just waiting until I can afford to buy a house one day and do a little DIY electrical stuff and hopefully not get shocked again with all that experience with the farmhouse. And set up a nice bidet system for myself.

love it. All right. So unpaid or underrated, the automatic door at work. You have a little trouble with that? It's not, oh, geez. Okay, this came from one Keith style rant that I had one tipsy night. So it's not the door I have the issue with. It's the people that use the daggum door I have an issue with.

So at work, there's this big door with, you know, one side is manual, one side's automatic. You can push a button and automatic one opens. But it takes like 15 seconds to open. It's so slow. And my issue is that when I'm rushing inside, it's either hot or really cold and I'm tired, I haven't had coffee, just trying to get inside. People are just going to stand there and push the button for the automatic door and make me stand there for like five seconds. Inconvenancing my day, how dare they for them not having to open a door?

I'm like, y'all, it's not that hard. It's not a heavy door. It takes one second to walk through that door if you open it manually. It takes five seconds if you just hit that button. And then what's worse is when I'm trying to walk out and someone's trying to walk in and they use the manual door, they're standing in front or using the automatic door. They stand in front of the manual door. So now I have to stand there and stare at them awkwardly through this glass door while we're just kind of playing this weird dancing game trying to figure out who's going to go through which door. And I'm like, y'all, I am, it's not the door.

It's the people. And I don't know why it bugs me so much. It's just like stopped for five seconds. But I'm just like, you have two functioning arms. You're carrying, you know, a Stanley Cup the size of your head. Is it a sanitary? Because I like like all the throughways on 90 in New York up here like all the rest stops. It is you can push the handicap button and the door opens but it takes fucking forever.

But a lot of times I'll elbow that because fucking doorknobs are disgusting when it's a, you know, but it's there's also times like I'm not going to wait. I don't know. Like I'm not going to get in someone else's weight and impede traffic. But a lot of times I can like an elbow and if it opens quick enough, all it. Yeah, it could be sanitary. I think I just get more frustrated. when it's like heavy winds and 30 degrees and my face hurts and I'm grumpy and I'm just

honestly being a little bit of a bitch but you know what it's it's my one one frustration I know you're allowed to have druthers so that tracks got my druthers unpaid or underrated did we get an unpaid on that one no yeah I'm assuming I don't know if you did answer that you just you told the story first oh my bad unpaid good for sure that door is it sounded underrated I I mean, your story. We need an answer. Look, if you have automatic doors, that thing's underrated. Your story makes me want to hope that everyone keeps pushing the button for you.

Just to, so we can tell this. I want to hear you tell the story. What they do is they push the button and then they stand in front of the manual door to let you in first. That would not, that wouldn't be the most frustrating thing on the planet ever. From now on, Keith, anytime I'm held up by someone at this door, I will deeat. DMU. Good stuff. All right.

Unpaid or underrated scalper. Oh, unpaid for sure. Did you also lose your tickets to Taylor Swift? Not Taylor Swift. Tyler Childers. I don't know to say it.

I don't know. I don't know if I've been corrected so many times. No, it's not even just the ticket scalpers. It's like, the hobby scalpers, like the, the Pokemon cards is a big one.

I got a fucking co-worker that does that. He's like, I'm going to go buy this kit and sell it. Blah, blah, blah. I'm on all these apps to tell me when stuff's on sale for cheap and I can sell it for I'm going to ruin kids' lives for a few minutes. Yeah, I'm going to make things less accessible

for a child so I can make a quick buck. Like, why am I paying $15 for a pack of cards that cost $5? And why, like, you know, you can't even find them in stores now. I, I drive by our local target and they restocked their Pokemon cards Friday mornings. And I only know this because there's a line outside the door every morning before they open for the guys just going in to buy all the stuff. I'm like, y'all, it's not worth it.

Like, and the people who use bots and buy stuff and it happens with Warhammer 40K to, like, they'll buy a $100 kit and buy it all and just control. the entire inventory and then sell you sell it to you for like 400 bucks and i'm like i okay i mean i didn't need that anyways but man it's just it just sucks um so people at that level like if you want to flip some weights off of facebook marketplace to make a quick buck on the side and you know a little side hustle like that's that's fine right but like to the point where you're we're not selling it for over market rate like the scalpers do for the most part we're just selling it for close to retail as close to retail as you can get. You're not selling them.

They're creating the need for them by buying them all. They create scarcity and then use that to justify like marking it up like crazy. Yeah, I think what was happening at Costco, so Costco put on like a three box limit when they released them. And what was happening was people were buying them, opening them with razors to see what was inside and then returning them. So Costco, from what I understand, some Costco said, no longer take returns on Pokemon cards because that's what people were doing. And like,

ew. Yeah. It's so gross. And like it's created this weird like weird side effect where children now care about how much a card is valued. Like I see a video on Instagram of an eight year old opened up a pack of card and freest I think, oh, this card's $500. I'm like, dude, when I was eight, I was taken like. Yeah.

There's one of my bike spokes. Yeah, it's going to my bike. immediately. It's going in my back pocket or my SpongeBob wallet. I'm like, oh, this thing's cool. But it's, I don't know. I think it's just slowly ruining the hobby and making it less accessible. So scalpers can be

unpaid. Agreed. Unless you're scalping crew cards, in which case, whichever one Keith is looking for, charge him a premium. I support this message. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I think Hogan, he got 43 out of 47, I think,

45 out of, I think there was three crew that shit the bed and didn't, uh, you know, get the card in time, but, you know, it is what it is. And, uh, sorry to, to, to, to bring up the incident, Will. No, no. So good. No. And that's a, it was a good, uh, good record of,

because you shit the better earlier. Ah, no, there it is. Yeah. Uh, there it is. Uh, the CTE made me forget. No, no. At least you didn't throw those shorts on the counter and make somebody else clean. Yeah. Hey, at least they weren't lift shorts.

Well, yeah. You would have had to wash them if they were. There's no coming back from that. You would have had to put the hose water to them. I'm actually wearing the lift evil shorts right now. And I just feel like, don't wreck them. The sweatpants aren't they? No, they're the lift evil collaboration.

Aren't they the sweatpants material or are they regular? No, they're the champion lift shorts. I got you. Okay. My turn. Co. Unpaid or underrated Bradford Peratrees. It's unpaid.

I absolutely unpaid. I don't know if you all have them up there or know what they are, but they are these, they're beautiful trees, right? They're like pretty white blossoms and they stay short and round and they look really nice and all the stuff. But oh my God, the smell they give off and the amount of pollen they send out for no reason.

I mean, if you look at an open field, during the spring here, you see a cloud of pollen around. And if that cloud touches you, you just might as well die. Because it smells, I'm going to be honest, it smells like semen. Like, there's no getting around it. Asparagus semen or? I couldn't tell you.

I don't know the difference. They just smell like death and they provide no value and they're super weak. And honestly, if I, if I was king for a day and I could make rules and change I would add an asterisk to like the definition of arson because if you commit arson against a Bradford Pear tree you should be able to get off scot-free because you've done no monetary value you've actually created value in your community the only way to prune these trees and maintain them is like a 24-inch chainsaw to the base and just let them fall I mean they they I firmly believe that they both prove and disprove the existence of like Satan because only only a creature of like pure evil can create these.

But at the same time, not even a creature of pure evil could create these things. It's just they serve no purpose. And all they do is just cover everything in pollen and make the entire state smell like death. Wow. Okay. Very strong opinions on this tree. I can tell. And now I'm interested.

I might have to experience one. Unpaid or underrated crox bracket the shoes. Oh, underrated, for sure. I don't know why it took me two decades to get back to wearing crocs, but I believe they are the perfect footwear. If your goal isn't barefoot, like, shoes, because we already had that discussion in the Discord. You can easily change them from off-revement.

road in the sport mode. They clean up really easy. They're pretty comfortable. And honestly, I think I'm at the point of my life where I've just stopped really caring if people are judging me in public for wearing crocs. You know, it's a, it's a freeing feeling. I agree. Last one, unpaid or underrated.

Building a sculpture out of potato chips. I could go for some potato chips. I'm going to say underrated, right behind the eight-year-old golf championship trophy. That's probably another one of my life's greatest achievements. And so I went to community college for a couple years, and one of the projects we had a due for the end of the year was take some shape. I can't remember what the name of a shape is. I don't know. It was something smart sounding, but it was a shape of a Pringles, like a little Pringle.

chingle chip with like, it was like a you both ways. I don't know how to describe it. It was like a saddle. And I found out that you could stack Pringles in such a way that the friction between each pringle and the tension between each one, you could create a perfect circle with a freestanding circle using only Pringle's potato chips. And I submitted that for a, like a final presentation that pretty much decided. if I graduated college or not.

And I graduated, so I think it worked out. But I think that was probably the most artistic thing I've done in my life. Very good. Very good. Very cool. Chip question here to the group. Is a, does a ridge, does a ruffled chip? Is that nerling? Neurled chips, we'll just start calling them that. I think so. I mean, because I was going to say even like a, even a Pringle,

It's not necessarily nerling, but it's not passive. Like, it's like, like, think, like, fix, think of a pringle on your hand. It's got that, like, I assume it's just like the salt aspect of it. But, like, it's almost like, that's like an Ohio bar. It's like when they use, like, the rough powder coating to add a little grip to it. Yeah, yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a tacky powder coat versus like a ruffled potato chip is a, you know, definitely got those, the full ridges. That's like the mountain nerling. Yeah.

Ringles are powder coated and ruffled. are nerled. We'll start calling the fence, the fence chips, waffle fries or whatever they call them. We'll start calling those knurled fries. Yeah. I need a little midnight snack.

I'm getting hot. All right. Well, you passed unpaid and underrated. Congratulations. We can. Phenomenal. Yep, we can hear this episode. And now it's your turn.

I know you have a couple questions for us. Fireway. Yeah. Absolutely. All right. So, Joey, quick question for you. Yep. If you had to create your all-star wrestling event for yourself,

so you choose which wrestler you go up against, you choose what kind of match, you choose the, you know, what happens if you're a heel or not? What would you want to do in the ring? Damn, that's a hard one to put on somebody. I've never even thought about that. Like, I mean, the obvious answer is Bray Wyatt. Right. I'd want to put Bray Wyatt over because that poor guy never got put over.

And he deserved it. But, and that's, like, such an obvious answer. But if I, like, wanted to have a genuine wrestling match based on what I think my skills are versus, like, my wrestling style when I was wrestling and stuff like that, it, I've always said that Triple H was the closest to my style. Even though he's not, yeah, he's got the, he's also, one of the originators of the five moves of doom. everybody says it was John Sina but it was also Triple H he had the running knee the stupid knee

where he I was laughing about this the other day where like the opponent would bend over and he would just like grab their head and jump up and drop their head on his knee and the guy would sell it

like it was the most painful thing in the world and that movie is dumb but like yeah that would be one and if I wanted to go ideally like if I wanted to be

like the kind of wrestler, it would be Taz. Taz is, in my opinion, one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. One of the strongest guys for his size. And he was just such a no-nonsense guy that I would probably want to wrestle him. I would want to wrestle him as a face because he was the best hill until he won the championship. And I won an FTW wreck. I want an FTW belt. That's like the goal.

Like if my wife said I have unlimited funds. I want to get you a present for your birthday, it would be crew falls. And the second would be an FTW belt. That's a solid answer. I love that. That's great. Man, and off the top of your head, I love that.

I could keep going. Working with Danhausen would murder me. Danhausen is, have you seen him lately? Not lately. He is killing it in the WWE. He is doing so well. His merch is. just flying off shelves.

And he's so funny. Him and Conan O'Brien did a thing because he is based on Conan O'Brien. His character is like, I used a lot of your type of humor. And Conan O'Brien is, of course, silly, very silly, safe humor. So, like, yeah, I could go on forever. But I won't.

I can see it. I'll also check out his most recent stuff, though. For Keith, so we won't be talking about wrestling. I've been going through the backlog and I have a couple of follow-up questions on a couple of things I've noticed. Keith, you self-reference Keith to Keith?

You just made him. Yeah. Oh, no. I got to go to my pants. It's not shit related. Oh, no. What have I done? All right.

Has your opinion of the chicken bake changed at all? It's mid, man. It's like, okay, is it better than getting a double cheeseburger? sure. Is it a pain in the ass to get 80% of the time because Costco's fucking hard to get in and out of for me and like where it's located in the traffic? If there is a if there is a Costco drive-through and it costs me the same amount of effort and time to go to, I would 100% maybe eat a chicken bake once a month or something versus I don't know. I get McDonald's once every two or three months or some shit.

But like, I get that. Not everyone can be mofo with five Costco's within a five minute drive of him. I'm like, I literally am one mile away from a Costco, but it's the whole getting in and out of it. Like, if I'm going to Costco, it's a huge fucking thing because we're buying $500 with a shit. And I know it's going to be a fucking a 20 minute unloading process and carrying in dozens of fucking trips of shit. So it's hard to just like, I'm going to go to Costco and get a chicken bake. It's like, I don't know. I did.

I understand. Was it like, that was like three years ago. I think that was. Would I eat one if you put one in front of me? But the biggest, the, the biggest. the big drawback is the frozen ones don't have the same macros in their hat they have shittier, unhealthier,

less protein, higher fat, higher carb macros. So the fucking real ones lying or somehow they're making it so shittily in the frozen version that it's such an unhealthy or I don't get it. I, I don't know.

I agree about the frozen ones there. They suck. But I mean, I would eat them. I would eat one, but it's not fucking, I take the pepperoni. to take the plain

cheese pizza over the chicken bake. It's a solid choice, I will say. I would still eat a chicken bake if you put one in front of me. Okay. Okay. I got it. All right, so I heard an episode where you talked about you have a pillow from the 90s. Has that been removed yet,

or is that still active? It's in the mix, but I have since at Costco, ironically, found a pillow that is like doable and it lasts like a year, or so before it gets so flat that I got to toss it or or it ends up getting rotated down to be enough one of the I essentially I have like in the bed I've got like the head and body pillows you know that are nice and clean and then I've got like a foot pillow for when I like to sleep with the elevated feet but I got to I have that in like a shittier pillow I have that in a different color pillow case so you know it you gotta build the nest yeah yeah so yeah I get it I have a pillow for past 15 years I used to go look for it um now I don't now I can sleep with like whatever pellows I just would prefer the nice one, but I don't have to, it's not as, it's not as ticky. Like, it used to probably be more of a tick now.

It's just like if it's, if I, if I, if I, if I find it in the fucking sea of pillows on my bed, great. If not, I'll get it one other night. But yeah, it's disgusting and it's old and it can't be sanitary to sleep with. And I know that. But I don't care because it is comfort and nostalgia and comfortable. And it is still significantly better than any of the other pillows. It, it is literally older than will. it was 100% older than Will and it's fucking still going strong.

No, I get it. I've had one for the past 15 years, but I don't use regularly. I've been trying to find a replacement for it, but nothing's come close, but I've just accepted it. It's gross. Sorry, Stephanie has one. It was very expensive. I can't remember what the name of it is, but like it comes as the pillow and it's fairly, it's well over $100. Maybe it's a couple hundred dollars, but then it comes with stuffing.

So then you can take, you can add it. You can add stuffing, take something out. You can fluff it off. It's like, it's a, it's got a zipper on it. And it's like, it's a loadable pillow essentially. It's a stack pillow. Love, love that. All right.

And then I got two hypotheticals for both of y'all. So the first one, do you all know the premise of the movie Freaky Friday? Yep. Yeah, like body swap, right? Yep. Yeah, yeah. All right. So imagine a Freaky Friday scenario.

However, the people who are swapped are your wife and John Hack. And the only way to get them back in the right spot is you have to beat John Hack being piloted by your wife in any lift of your choice. And you get to choose three lifts. What three lists are you going with? Oh. And for the sake of this. No, no, I'm having sex with John Hack because I'll tell. Perfect.

no, I'll tell you, he was... John Hacks having sex with you. Yeah, they put the dinnies up to 600 at the show I was at, and he was lifting them like it was nothing. Steve couldn't get them up. Yeah, and like, I've got a picture of it and everything. It's wild.

There's nothing I could beat John Hack at. There is not a single... No, but it's your wife's brain inside of it. So her quarter, I'm interpreting it as my wife, coordination in John Hack's body. So I've got a whole list of shit. Oh yeah. I'll squat bench and sandbag.

Yeah, to give you a fighting chance. Yeah, it's her coordination. Her coordination and his body. Yeah, all out squat my wife's coordination. I love her, but I'll out squat her every single time with the same weight. And sandbag over bar, because I just don't think she's ever done it. And, uh, yeah, we'll go, we'll go. stone stone the shoulder okay there's solid solid solid choices what you got keith um any type of overhead press

because i know my wife's not like well any type of barbell this has actually been a debate lately she's been um she kind of pulled back on a lot of the weight she's been doing for training just because she's kind of been like feels like she's putting too much stress on her spine and everything so 100% support her just doing a little bit less weight doing a little bit a lot more dumbbell stuff a lot less barbell stuff. So whatever works for her. But I've been, she's doing to the point now, she's actually military pressing like 15s,

which is great for her. And I'm like, well, if you can military press 15 pound dumbbells, we got a 15 pound barbell you should be able to easily do for reps. Yep. But she's just, she's just afraid of like the whole like, like head back and the neck through kind of thing.

And so she doesn't want to fuck with her necks. But anything overhead press related, just because I know she'd be terrified to do it with a barbell. A Hoosafel carry because just imagining her picking something up and kind of like wrap like and i and it's it's really funny to think of my wife and john heck's body as far as like it's just like the brain swapping her into just like this like greek god of muscle but like still not but still like relatively not a huge dude because he's like maybe 220 240 i mean he's competed historically all under 200 but i'm assuming he's like 220 now for

example so like not so massive that like just sheer body mass would work so she'd have to know how to use as muscle, which I don't know. Like, I don't think your brain would fire that quick to use the muscle. So I got to press. I got to carry. Oh, what else would be a good one? Log would probably be really, right? Like, you could just see them throwing themselves backwards.

Like, you have all that power, but don't know how to use it. Like, you would just, like, roll it up and fly backwards. I can see that. That would be a solid choice, too. Let's see. All right. Yeah. Yeah.

There's a lot of good ones out there. That's okay. That's a wild. How the hell did you think of that one? A couple of buddies of mine, I mean, we throw out some random hypotheticals like that just every once in a while. And it's usually dumb stuff.

Like, like I asked the lasagna question on the Q&A. Like you take two lasagna, stack one top of each other. Is it one big Zanya or is it two asanias? They talked about that for a minute, too. They talked about that longer than I thought. I was like,

Guys, it's not that deep. I remember listening. All right. And the last hypothetical for each of y'all. So let's say you are locked in a high school gymnasium with a very angry silverback gorilla, but you have the ability to create clones of yourself. How many clones of yourself do you think it's going to take to subdue the silverback gorilla? And just some statistics for you.

The average male silverback gorilla is about 400 pounds, six feet, tall and his SBD record is about a 1,500 squat, 1,000 pound bench, and an 1,800 pound deadlift. 400 pounds, but how tall are they? 6 foot something? 6 foot. 6 foot. Okay, so 6 foot 400 pounds

with the biggest total of all time. With a 4,300 total. Yep. Yeah, so like a 1.4 of like the world record probably or 1.5 of the world record. I tried to convert the numbers into strong numbers just to try to

make it a little more digestible for you all but chat GPT told me no I guess a lot of it might be is it an angry gorilla is it a past like what's it what's his personality like because are we he's very angry and very okay so Keith wants to know if he can fuck the gorilla

that's essentially what he's asking I mean with enough Keith you can try if it's just a passive dude and you just got a kind of corral it that's one thing but if it's like trying to kill you essentially oh my god I think it's got to be I love how I make myself laugh sometimes. Like, I just, I don't know why.

And I'm weaponless. It's just me and my body. I'm saying so. And you and your other body and you and your other body and you. Yeah, but that's like. I'm going to say twice as many as what Keith says. Well, my, like, the two numbers that are sticking out is like, is it 50 or is it 100? I don't think it's 50.

But like, I guess. And so a gymnasie. It's a one hit kill. that's the thing, right? Like, the gorilla's a one-hit kill, so you have to have enough of you who stop enough one-hit kills. Yeah, and do you just dog-pile it?

Do you try to make a wall? Do you just try to drown it? Like, what's the strategy? You just create a shield wall? I mean, enough people, if you get enough, like, determined Keith's on it, we could probably rip the fucker apart, or at least, like, spread, like, get it down and, like,

I'm not going to say spread eagle, but, like, I don't know what, like... Jesus. Like, told you he wants to fuck it. But also, do I have enough strength? Like, because like, okay, so look at this. Like, you're basically, you're only able to grab it by its limbs for the most part. Yep.

Because it's like, it's like, it's body is going to be too big to kind of grab. So, like, how many, how many Keith's could grab, like, a very large arm? Like, like, five people, maybe, like, five people would be too much mass in one area to grab an arm. And you'd have to do that with, like, arms and legs, but you can't really do them simultaneously. So, like, I don't know, man. I don't know that there is a number. it would just keep killing me. Could five Joey's suplex a single gorilla?

I would pay to see that. Right? Like make the geometry work, though, of like, you're not making yourself five times bigger. No, but I'm smaller. So five of- You would have the benefit in the sense of- Five of me is smaller than five of you, right? Like-

So if you can't make the geometry work, can you just overwhelm it with numbers? No, gosh, no. Well, I mean, yeah, if the number's a thousand, probably. however many quays it takes to fill up a gymnasium, that's the number. Because you can't be higher than that, right? So like, like, do the math of like a 250 pound person in a gymnasium.

We're talking about a basketball court, I'm assuming solely. That's like, I don't know, a thousand, I don't, I'm trying to think like if you were on a high school basketball court. That's probably like 1,500 heaths somewhere around there.

So like an entire school, my entire school. if we're talking like tug of war sure but like we're talking like we have to like subdue and kill this person you're not to kill it you just gotta take it down that's why i brought it this complex like if you can just take it down means just literally knock it off its feet that's fucking i that's different i'm in my mind is take it down like fucking fucking goner yeah so the the new gym radar thing is going to be how many keiths fit into your gym someone call nate someone call nate put it on your list that doesn't remind me funny callback. So one of my really good friends used to train here regularly. She had like,

the tiniest shoes in the world. I think she, I don't even remember why we saw her shoes. Maybe she put different shoes on the deadlift than when she was squatting or something. But like, at one point we like, like there was three of us training together in the gym. And like, we looked at her shoe and it was like literally like, it was like five inches long or something. And she's just like, this very small petite girl. And we just like, we started using her shoes as a form of like measurement. And just like, it was just like how many Gillian's shoes. That's how long something is. And it was just the funniest thing ever. So it kind of, what you said earlier, using me as a form of measurement, made me think of that. And I haven't thought about that in probably like three years since he moved

away and it made me chuckle. I don't know, man. The entire gym would have to be full probably because I don't think I could end it. But if we're just talking knock it down, that's a whole different story. I don't know. That depends how you knock it down. Like I said, a suplex, a German suplex onto the back of your head can really hurt. Yeah, he's not going to let you get him airborne. You're like one elbow and like three of your five are already down. Yeah, that's true. And then the dead ones are in the way. So it's not just like next hand up.

So there's this Instagram page. I don't know. I think I might have unfollowed it because it did get a little redundant, but it's just all AI generated, I'm assuming. And it's just like how many Darth Vader's versus how many Harry Potter's, how many fucking Mike Tyson's versus how many trainosaurus races. And then it just plays out the whole thing. And it's just kind of like, I've gone down a rabbit hole and watched those for like a half hour at a time. once and just did back to back to back. I think I did have to unfollow it because I was like, I just wasted so much time to watch like a 10 minute clip of these little animated things

killing each other. And then I would like nitpick it because like, well, that's not what should be happening because like you gave them this power that they didn't really have or I don't know. I just went down a rabbit hole with those. Those are so much fun though. Yeah. How many wills? How many wills would it take? Oh, that's a good question. I, I'm thinking just to take it down, I'm thinking 60, 70 maybe. Let's see, 670.70. 50 was my initial thought.

I think if I get enough to at least pin its arms and legs down and stay far enough away from its mouth so it can't just bite me in half. I think we can pin it to the ground if we have enough. And if that doesn't work, then I'm going to say like 3 or 400

and just try to crush it under a mountain of wills. I think about this, you could, you could turn yourself into, like, a missile. So, like, you're taking yourself and self-preservation out of it because you're all just, like, you're expected, like, you could take four or five of these. You can create. Yeah, yeah.

You can throw yourself, like, you could even, like, rip your fucking head off and throw your head as a goddamn cannonball or something. That'd be really bad. But, like, throwing your own, like, having five people throw you at it as, like, a missile, that could stun it pretty good, I think. Like, I don't know. Do you start using bones of spears? Do you start creating weapons all yourself?

Like, where does this end? This got weird. And then I started thinking, like, there's a, there's a, like, how many use would it take to take down the rock? Like, this could go on forever. What a question. What a wild, awesome question. A lot of, like, invincible, gory stuff was going through. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Gross. Very gross. Very gross. Interesting point. I just got a message while we were chatting there. the gym I was at for the meat Just Be Strong gym

One of the biggest Most powerful gyms in the area Is shut down The city The city went in and told them They could not operate there anymore So breaking news Unpreting underrated

Oh that sucks Yeah very lame I don't have a reason why yet Just The city has said you can't do that Well that was the place that hosted the meat last week you're saying Yep That was probably an overcapacity fire marshal thing

Then you'd think Well that wouldn't shut them down And that would temporarily shut them down. It depends on how the- Not you can't be here anymore. The news gets things wrong a lot of the times too. No, this was directly from the friend that works out there. Interesting point.

The guy who's helping me change my tires, who is my high school best friend, his sisters work out there. So he messaged me. He's like, is this the place you're going? Because my sister's piss, she can't live today. I was like, that is the place I'm going. What a turn of events. Great episode, guys.

really fun hypothetical questions. That was. That was good. I think you scratch me and Keith's brain a little bit when you do those. So that's really, really cool. But it is very late. And I would love to go to bed soon. All right. Big Will.

We're going to find you at Big Will. Instagram, Big Will Lifts, Discord, the other Big Will. And just about everywhere else is a Kautronaut. Spell that one for me? C-O-W-S-T-R. Stronaut. Yeah. Are we talking like, like, cow, like the moo cow, like, you know, like the fucking, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, okay. Okay. So, okay. Okay. Okay. So, okay. So, okay.

Yeah, same word. Like, it's not, but it, tell me it sounds different. Close. Big Joey where you at? You can find me at Keith underscore. No, I can't. I can't do it. Damn it, I don't even know your, I know you, and I know everything,

but I don't know your Instagram handle. I almost had you. You can find me at Joey underscore Mlesco. M-L-E-C-Z-K-O at Jim Radar. I am in the DILF dungeon, and that's about it. All right. We got the Instagram, unpaid and underrated. podcast website unpaid internpodcast.com.

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