Unpaid And Underrated - 171 : Powerlifting Tails, Strongman Heads (ft. Big Florian)

Episode Date: August 18, 2026

This week Joey and Keith get to know Florian. They dive right into great topics like farming, globo gyms, reading, sci-fi, and equipmemt companies. Links Ü&Ü Hoodie Massenomics x Ünpaid and Ünderrated Colab Get Your Own Keith Head Follow The Podcast On Instagram @unpaid.underrated.podcast Online UnpaidInternPodcast.com On Youtube @Unpaid.Underrated.Podcast Our Guest On Instagram @florianthegerman Our Hosts @keithhoneycutt73 or his orange gym, @thenowhinecellar @joey_mleczko Special Guest: Big Florian.

And welcome back to episode 171 of the Unpaid Nudderated Podcast, a podcast by crew for crew. I'm one of your host, Big Keith, joined as sometimes as my buddy here, Big Jeff. Hey, everybody, Big Jeff here. Howdy, howdy? And this week we got Big, Big Florian as our guest. How you don't, sir? Hello, doing well, how are you? No, not too shabby, not too shabby.

This is a segment we have kind of nipped in the butt and got rid of, but by special request, we're going to bring it out of the vault. Big Jeff, what are you? drinking this week? I'm drinking a steaming hot mug of Theraflu because I am really under it these last couple days. So good to be here. A little bit off my game, but I've got my Theraflu and my five-star rating mug from one of my clients, a five-star rating on the mug so everybody can nice. That's like, do you have a, like, from your website or from Google that you just like copy and paste it or like the image, like the screen grab of the rating of Jeff? It's actually a service. I would never be so vain as to order my own mug with a rating on it, but I use a service that helps collect them for me.

And they dropped a couple in the mail. So sent one over to Ma. We got one here at the house. And just a nice little, nice little thing to have on hand. Well, it's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. I dig it. I dig it.

I dig it. What do we have? So, well, Jeff, while we're on you, let's see. We haven't talked to Jeff here in a while. Do you remember about the last episode you were on? Was it like one of the drafts last year probably? last one was probably the quiz game that I asked at this time last year actually the highly contested only by me who won Colton or the Birdwatcher

Cody that's right so I think I was the only one that had an opinion on that but I'm always almost surrounded by controversy yeah well that that's that's me I'm always I'm always look for some balls to bust all right Jeff so what happened buddy did you it looks like you sold the garage gym. I've only seen you in a commercial gym the last several months. I mean, I know it's hot, but is it that hot? It's that hot, man. I did not sell the garage gym, but I have not used it much. My kids have probably used it more than I have in the last couple of months. I joined a Globo Gym nearby just because it was getting really hard on my schedule.

You know, if I don't hit the gym by like, you know, seven or eight in the morning here, it just gets too hot later in the day. So join the ranks of the Globo gyms where we have, um, where we squat with Olympic bars and have people ripping the pads off safety squad bars. Yeah, you show me that picture of that. So do you think that'll be, uh, do you think that's going to carry into the winter or do you think by wintertime,

you'd be like, all right, it's like, it's like, you know, it's, it's tolerable now or, or, you know, at that point, you're going to be, up, it's too cold. You're going to go from too hot, it's too cold and just keep going to the global gym. You just think of every excuse, why not to break out the home gym again? Well, I like the equipment variety. I'm probably not like you guys that dump, you know, many thousands of dollars into the gym. So it's nice to have some other accessory stuff to recover with of, like, just some of the versatility. But certainly when it cools down, if I need to get something done in a pinch or if I'm doing like a heavy bench day or, you know, want to do the garage gym competition or something, I can always do that at home.

And like I said, my kids actually still like lifted out of it. So I'll be out there with them sometimes. Nice. So at the commercial gym, I know you don't want to talk to people because most people are commercial gyms are just not worth talking to. So have you been chipping away at those albums listening while you're training? Do you listen to the new albums while you train for your, you know, your journey to X amount of, you know, albums listen to and rated? Or do you just have your regular playlist you listen to? And then the album music is just background noise at work.

Yeah. People that don't know, I listen to this 1001 albums you're supposed to hear before you die. It's just like a book that this editor is put together and there's a web app to follow through them. So I kind of have three different categories of gym listening. If it is like a heavy day, I need a little bit of hype. I got my normal gym, you know, hype playlist, which is really just Iron Maiden Radio.

And I just kind of shuffle through what's on there. I'll actually listen to some podcasts now on lighter days because, you know, I got earbuds instead of the stereo at the house. So kind of working through the back catalog a little bit more that way. Otherwise, yeah, you know, if what I have is something decent, I'll throw it in and try to, listen to it while I'm lifting.

But yeah, I'm like 600 albums in. So a little bit more than halfway through my 1,001 album journey. Nice. Well, we'll get you on in a couple years and you can keep us updated on how that's going. Let's see. I had a nice crew meetup in Western New York this week. And, well, I wouldn't say it was a crew meetup.

It was we all went to a, several of us went to a strongman show together and actually all volunteered. None of us were competing. It's a, you know, it's about an out. Well, local is in, it's in Lockport, so that's Buffalo adjacent, and that's where the Sessneys live. So me, Lucas and Chris came out from Rochester, and the Sessneys were there, and we all had volunteered. I was kind of a last minute show, because I wasn't sure if I was going to make it or not. So they were already pre-signed up and got the nice fancy shirts.

And I was, yeah, yeah, I can finally make it out and I'll head out. And I was like, hey, do you need help? And he was like, yeah, help out over here. And spent the entire day lifting up the Kodan's wheel every time someone dropped it, which was every time, obviously, that's how it works. but like that was unpleasant because I'm short as shit and it was on crash pad so like the other guys it was like Chris Mark and another like six foot tall guy so they could both with long arms so they could kind of like just grab it at the handle and like articulate it up like like swing it up whereas the guy was with it's a very strong guy but he was coming off of a ACL tear and I'm short as shit so I basically was like goblet squatting it up off the pad like halfway and then he could get a good hold on it and we'd both push it up so yeah that was uh my my quads were pretty sore the next day so but it was really fun. It's a very good show. It's the love like Ben Strongman show.

It's the guy that puts it on. Tragically lost his son a few years ago in a car crash. And every year he hosts this charity Strongman show, raises thousands of dollars through donations and whatnot. And donates it to local youth sports, which is a pretty cool cause. You know, his kid was, I think, just out of high school in his early 20s and was a big, big youth sport and everything.

So it was a, it's always a little tearful because he always gives a speech at the end because it's kind of, you know, it is a charity show. She always like to thank everybody and say how happy, how proud of this sound would be, et cetera. So it's always like, you know, you spot and load for four or five hours. And then you're like holding back tears right before you get ready. You drive home for 90 minutes. So it's always kind of a kick in the gut. But it's a very, it's a good cause.

So we like going out there and doing that. Have you, have you done Conan's wheel in competition before? Not. I have not done a Conan's wheel yet. That is, it's in a show I have coming up this summer. This was the Hercules hold, though. So that's the one where. Oh, I'm sorry.

So similarly, ironically, I do have Conan's wheel coming up this December if I shall sign up for the show, which, you know, we'll have to talk to Big Big Jake about, I think that is on our agenda. But yeah, that was the big reveal. I'd been hinting about getting a new coach as of late, but never really pulled the trigger. I didn't really, each episode I've been on in the last few weeks, I didn't really, I personally only kind of like the deep dive me on general topics. It's just easier that way. So we didn't really have general topics on the two recap episodes when I had already made the decision to go with Jake. So this is the first opportunity. but yeah, it was a very hard decision. I'd worked with the same powerlifting coach, my very good friend and long-term coach for eight years, Justin. Good working relationship. The only downside really was, we probably knew each other too well, and I didn't let him push me hard enough

because I had too many, you know, a couple injuries here and there, and you both kind of experienced that together, and then we kind of pull the throttle back and don't really open it back up, and there I just kind of maintained and plateaued for a few years, but part of it was like, well, I'm not interested,

That's awesome. But I'm not getting any younger and I've got about a, you know, I plan on lifting the rest of my life. But like, you know, if I want to get better in the sport, I got to get stronger now because it's not going to get any easier to get stronger as you get older. So I'm excited. We're two weeks in with that, you know, so far so good. He definitely helped motivate me today. I was a little nervous about going into a big squat set where to me it was a very high percentage for that amount of reps just because I don't really push high, you know, under. it was right around 80%, but for six reps, but for me, for most people, that's like a Tuesday,

but for me, like, I don't, had bad experience with hurting my knee or hurting this, that, and the other with higher reps, but I don't know, I must be a lot stronger now because I fucking spoke that shit. And I was very, very happy. And Jake basically told me to calm the fuck down. It's not that much weight. You got it, buddy. And then we did.

It was a good shit. Very excited to see where I go there. You know what they say. What got you there won't necessarily get you there. Or what caught you here won't get you there. Easy for me to say. Yeah. Whatever Jeff said. He's got it. I was kind of sleeping through it. But sleep study, man. What's going on there? Are you not sleeping? Or are you sleeping too much? Or you want of those that get eight hours of sleep, but only three hours of rest? Because I feel like that's my wife. She's in bed. She's in bed all night, but she doesn't fucking feel rested. Yeah. I think my snoring is at the point where it's going to cost me my friendships, cost me in my marriage, cost me my sanity.

you know, I'm not, I'm not, you know, a huge, huge guy, but it's finally time to kind of do something to get it looked at. So I got to go through the whole, you know, rigor and more role with the, you know, doctors and all that kind of stuff. So I went to my primary physician, $30 to answer a few questions and say, okay, let's get you a sleep study. And then sleep study people want to meet with you over Zoom and, you know, get through a questionnaire. So 60 bucks to answer a questionnaire. And then I got to go and pick it up. And they're actually going to have me do a home. sleep study. So you pick the machine up there, take it home.

You download like an app on the phone, which sends all the data to them. And then, you know, they can read it and hopefully, hopefully get some help. I'll be very disappointed if nothing comes of it. Hopefully it's almost something at the end of the day. Yeah, I had a physical this week myself. Maybe it was last week, but I got my blood work back. Because I, you know, I've never had my testosterone tested. And I just kind of wanted to see where it was that. So I guess it came back low. I got to log back in and actually see what the exact number was because I only got like the my chart DM from the doctor saying like, yeah, they were really they were kind of low. You know, have you had obsessive before. You know, do you have symptoms, etc? It was kind of funny because he was like, you know, a sex. Do you have a low sex drive? And I was like, it's like, how do I say no comically, but like not offend the doctors? It'd be like, like, I definitely don't have a low sex drive. Uh, so I just found that funny. But like fatigue, I definitely have fatigue. But the way he worded it was like a chronic. It was it wasn't chronic. It was intense. or, you know, some other adjective of, like, fatigue. And I was like, I don't know that I'd go that far, but I don't know.

So we'll see. I got a, I got a deep dab the numbers and see if I need to do anything about it. But it was just more to have a baseline so it can continue to get that tested as I get older and have a consultation for a vasectomy in the fall. So we'll see how that goes. Not, not 100% committed to that, but I'm like 80% percent. Well, I'm 69% committed that I'll get a vasectomy, but we'll see how the consultation goes. Yeah, a little good luck on that. I never know how to answer those questions like,

are you tired? I'm like, well, I'm always tired, but I don't know my own experience. Maybe this is just how life is, but I literally had like Tanner saying, I'm always tired in my head as I was trying to type out the response to the doctor's like, no, I'm, I'm literally always tired, but like, I don't think I'm as tired as you think that you want me to answer

this. I don't know. Yeah. Probably not as tired as Florian up there, working all those long hours, though. Oh, man. Can't wait to hear about that. Oh, yeah. So the Massonomics football league that's getting started up.

Are you and I, you and I both got relegated or did you get relegated last year? I can't remember. We're both relegated to the Davis League now. Well, that's, well, not, but for the record, novice isn't the bottom of the barrel. It was last year, but now there's a, now there's a third tier.

So we are not the shittiest. I mean, next year we might be if we get relegated again, but I think if I get relegated again next year, I'll really have to flip a coin to see if I want to keep in this, because investing like a half hour a week or more for the bottom barrel league, I don't know if that's worth it, but we'll see. That's right. We're not in the shittiest league yet.

Yep, not yet. Never say never. Anybody get a chance to watch the YouTube video that dropped today, some of the home gym booths that were more Masonomics crew-based or massonomics adjacent? No. I have not yet. I do want to.

What did you say, Flo? You're going to check it out? No, no, not yet. Maybe later this week or so. Yeah, it's a good one. Getting the YouTube videos is hard during the week a lot of times. Like, I, I, if I didn't like get to watch it on my phone at lunch, basically, I wouldn't get a chance to watch them because, you know, I come home and try to work out or it's like chores or whatever. So it's just like there's not a lot of time between home and podcasting.

So, uh, or getting off work and getting the podcast role. And so being able to consume it at lunch is kind of the only opportunity I have. I do want to see this one. I know there's a lot of crew and crew businesses and stuff in there, which is always cool to see. So, um, I will get to it. Yeah, one thing. I can't remember if it was in person or pre-show, so maybe I won't bring it up, but TBD,

but there were supposed to be some, some big Chris belt fed, possibly getting his voice on the podcast weekly, teased, I think, in the pre-show or in person, but so we'll see if Tanner follows up on that, because that was hinted out a few weeks ago, and I've yet to see any changes, but I think that would be really funny

if what they talked about comes to fruition. I can never say that word, someone. Yeah, fruition, you got it. It does sounds weird. It sounds like it's just not right. Ah, kill your video. Brian, get out of here.

So at the end, the guy running the podcast sometimes always throws me off because it's like, how do I, I have someone come in and then he's got their video and I can't figure it out. I'll look at it later. But nonetheless, no one wants to hear about that. Last week's massonomics episode, I know, Jeff, you had some thoughts on this one and you wanted to deep dive some of the data, I think. Oh, I love the data. Yeah, it was a good episode, you know, felt like I was right there at home gym. Com, you know, it almost makes it like I don't have to go because I just listen to the recap. But I did like the Tommy's new game, is Tanner Average at the end of the show.

Did you get to hear that, Flo? Yeah, I listened to that. When it was it, Monday? I was picking potatoes. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I wonder what the average potato consumption is per year for adult man. What do you think? Any ideas?

Well, also, I'm curious if Tom, I'm curious if Tom. me went America or like world or North America because North America would be different from America versus world because like I'm he had to have done America I'd imagine I'm not sure I'm not I'm not sure if he said it or not but I don't know yeah good point probably probably which there was some surprising numbers I mean the uh well the amount tanner it's actually always surprised me about of the eggs and stuff I don't have the appetite that he has but I guess that's why people will remember my name but uh yeah what did you think on the eggs, about a, look like about an egg a day was the average.

I thought that was high for the general population. Like, yeah. I go days without, I go like three or four days without eating an egg. And then I know I eat more protein than most people in my, like. I work with people that probably eat an egg like once over two weeks. So I don't know how they got that number. If it was because someone, there's enough tanners out there to offset the people that don't eat eggs. Like, I don't know.

Yeah. And about a pound of beef a week. What about a big flow up in Canada? Is it a big beef culture up there like here in the United States? Or what's the foods of choice? Yeah, well, with eggs, like I eat about like three eggs a day or so. But I have chickens myself and it's quite easy. I just walk 200 meters and I get my own eggs.

Beef, beef is all right right now. Our beef prices are a tad high. So a lot of people are being switched to alternatives and everything. but for us, like, we always get a full cow, maybe twice a year or so, split between myself, parents, my brother. So it's probably every second day or so, be for a so, maybe. But, yeah, if I had to give the episode of rating, I would give it five out of five Tanner's averages. Okay, okay.

I'll give it, uh, I'll give it, uh, I'll give it an egg. I'll give it one egg. It's got to be five eggs, Jeff. You can't be the only You can't be Are you really I hope that was a bit We were literally talking about

In the pre-show I was like don't be like Jeff Florey And then rated a four out of fucking five It's always a five out of it I was like a Michelin star They got one And then the next time I'm on They get another one

It's not like that All right I give it five eggs then Five out of five eggs We'll have to We'll have to have more conversations Before we have you on As a guest host again

That's good stuff Flory what you think buddy If you had to give it a rating Or any thoughts on it Oh. It was the Home Gym Recod episode too. We kind of buried the lead on that. Yeah, I know.

It was good. Like, oh, it's the work I'm going to look for. When first Home Gym Khan became a thing, I thought it was going to be flopped over within two years. I really didn't think the home gym

culture was that massive kind of thing. Now we're here, what is it, four years later? Yeah. And Home GymCon is this beautiful, large, scale thing that I actually see it as going bigger and better and continuing over the years and everything.

So for that, I'll give it like five out of five home gym small booth award. Nice. Yep, it was the Home GymCon small booth award basically. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I couldn't remember the wording what they got there. Good rating. Good on them. Like huge congratulations on that.

That's really amazing. Hell yeah. I love to hear it. Well, speaking of Home GymCon. belt fed strengths there. Code unpaid. Go check him out. Plate snacks.

I'm trying to get him to come out to Home Jim Con. He's been signed up for two years and having one thing or another come up. But anyone that wants their flag, you know, their banners, their stickers, variety of other stickables. Stickables. I'm going to go with stickables. Plate snacks and obsidian pneumonia. If you need some, if you want your eyes to water and your heart rate to spike,

hit you some acidian ammonia. Code unpaid at all those places. It will help save you a little bit of money. Big Florian, do you have anything to tell us about massonomics? Oh, I'd read. Oh, yeah. Big dog. Yeah.

I think I put more time into this than my vows, so hopefully it's good. Well, I'm pretty sure you said vows, but for some reason I heard boughs, and I'm just like thinking for a second. I was like, huh, bowels. That's, but I got you. Don't worry. I haven't written my boughs yet. I got a year to wait for that. Okay.

Let's roll this. Are you tired? of lifting in a local competition feeling like a golf game instead of a true test to strength. Come on down to Aberdeen, South Dakota on June 10th and take part in the Lift Hard, Live Easy, Classic 5. Pick your poison, strongman, powerlifting, grip, volunteering, or day drinking. They have it all. See you in the Dean, 2027. Hell yeah, man.

That is, it's going to be good times. The date is said if no one's, I don't think we actually covered. I think we covered it last two weeks. June 10th. Get your tickets. Get your flights book now. And everyone likes to wait until the last minute to book flights. But like I saved $100 booking my flight now compared to what I paid last year booking six months out. So every penny helps. Big Flory. And we're going to get you on the podcast, buddy. Go ahead and introduce yourself and tell us where they can find you at on Instagram or whatever social media or, you know, give me your cell phone number, your birth certificate, all that good stuff. Whatever you're comfortable with. All right, so I'm a big Florian, Big Flo for short. I'm from Roblin, Manitoba, Canada, very small town in rural Western Canada.

You can find me on the Instagram at Florian, what is it, Florian the German. It's a name that I made, was 15, 16? Just a baby. It's something like that. It's never changed it. And I guess I'm to this week's host. I mean, yes, my back.

Yes, yes. You are, I mean, if you feel for, I mean, we can just interview, I mean, we can interview Jeff more. You can help me interview Jeff. But yes, I mean, this is, Jeff's had his time in the, in the sun. We'll, uh, time in the sun knows, time in the spotlight. And the sun would be probably why he's snoring so much, um, but. I've been to send all the damn time down here. All right.

Um, what brought you in massnomics, Florian? How'd you, how'd you find us? Why you still here? So that started. 22 maybe back when they did the home what it was called garage gym competitions I don't know that's still around or not when they're running their spring event they had the whole list of sponsors for that a so I was looking down on the website the one day just clicking off random tabs and seeing all the different companies prizes I could win X Y and

then I saw massonomics right so I clicked on that and it was like, wow, these are some really cool shirts. And this drink spotter is just, fuck, so stupid, but so funny. Right. I just fell in love with that part of it. And then I figured out it was a podcast. And it was the first podcast I listened to was Obers, Robert Oberst. Right?

In the first half hour, when they were talking, I was like, what in the world is this kind of podcast? I didn't understand the jokes. I was so lost, right? And I was like, whatever. Let's keep going. And then they got to the interview with Robert Oberst, and I thought it was the funniest shit that I listened to that day.

It was just ridiculous. And plus, I was watching it on YouTube just to see how they reacted to all the outrageous stuff you was saying and how they kept their cool. It was really fantastic. And then from there, I just kept on, like, listening to more and more episodes. And then the crew kept popping up and I was like, oh, I don't know.

I don't know. This might be a cult. This might be like a pyramid scheme. I don't know. I'm not going to do it. Right. Then fast forward to lift hard, live easy too. And it came out to the recap.

And I was like, that's amazing. As I was watching the recap, you just saw how like the energy of how everyone was, how it was like actually a community and stuff. stuff. At the same point, because that was when I was competing in the IPF in Canada, the article 14 came down. I don't know if you guys are familiar with that kind of stupid rule. Yeah. If you were, yes, if you were an APF affiliate, you can't lift outside of IPF events or they're going to ban you for, you know, a year, essentially. And if you were even a coach, too, you couldn't go and, and you couldn't even go to seminars if it had, like, banned people or like non-IPF bullshit. So, yeah. Yeah. And then I was kind of. I'm on my tail end of like, this is stupid because a lot of the events that was being hosted

locally was, it wasn't fun. It was the same rinse and repeat. It was a money scam for gyms. It wasn't a good time. And I was like, this is stupid. I need to find something different. Right. And then I saw that video.

I'm like, that's amazing. Boom. Signed up for crew. And I just kind of went into the background waiting until Lift Hard Live Easy 3, the sign up that happened. I think I signed up. within the first half hour it dropped or whatever. Got everything figured out,

went down to Aberdeen there for Liftard 3, and I just had a wonderful time. Right. And I think I've said this like 14,000 times. And that's the reason why I came back for Liftard 4 is that every crew member I met, there's no assholes. There's no one that I was like,

I fucking hate you. I'm going to punch you out. Like there's there's some people that we had disagreements with, but we were able to have discussions with instead of arguments. Nice. And I'm like, these are like, because you go to so many meets and there's those people that are like, you're just so stupid. Like you're hogging the one the rack, the weights. You're just being in your own little world. And I just found that everyone that I talked to in the crew was just a beautiful mix of people and was just very easy to talk to everyone.

And I really did enjoy it. And that's why I'll probably be back for number five coming around this corner. Hell yeah, buddy. Wouldn't be the same without you. Well, I'd have fun. Sure. Yeah, it's definitely an environment where, you know, everybody's working together and in competition with themselves to do, but they're not really, you know, trying to knock each other down or compete with each other in that same way.

So you mentioned you're from Western Manitoba, and if you live there your whole life or you get over there from somewhere else? Yeah, no, my parents immigrated from the old country, and they found the farm here right by the Manitoba, Saskatchewan border. And then I was born here, moved away to the city and went on my adventures. And I moved back here a couple years ago to go take over the farm and everything. Yeah, very interesting. We'll talk more about the farm in a little bit, interested in that. But I'm also curious, too. We asked this question, everybody.

Is there one piece of Massonomics merch that you missed out on? Maybe that was in production before you. joined the crew or whatever that you wish you could go back and buy. Oh, it's the Silkes. Okay, Silkes. The only correct answer here, Silkes. I mean, there was a big old box of those a few years ago. There was like 20, 30 pairs of a variety of sizes.

That must have been Lift-Hard LeVizzi one or two then, I think, because they weren't able to sell them because they dropped. And then they already had them ordered when the Lyft logo ban basically went into effect. So then they couldn't actually sell them. I think they did put a blank pair up on the website, but they hit it and had to share the link and stuff. So the Silkees never made it to the public public. It was all Discord or in person only, if I recall.

And that was, but have been gone by one or two, they started living, I think. Yeah, I love Silkie. I love wearing them and everything. Mackenzie thinks I'm an idiot to when I work with them, but, you know, I don't know. I enjoy them. No.

Well, what you just took a swig of might have answered my next question. What's your, what's your, what's your Hall of Fame status? Two, four, six, eight right now. This would be number nine. Nice, you're getting there. My mark. I must have got it. I thought you were drinking out a Hall of Fame cup for a second, but it must have been,

was that lift up to easy three cup, maybe? No, it's the number four. Oh, it's even this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. There's so many. Yeah, I thought it was appropriate. There's so many cups. It's hard to keep them all straight, you know.

Yeah. Eventually, I'll collect some more. Nice, nice. So nine, nine tonight. So what are you? well, what big one you're missing is crew falls, buddy. Why haven't you, how come you haven't been to crew falls yet? How far of a drive is that?

For me to Sue Falls, that is... Oh, it would be longer, right? Oh, okay, okay. Sometimes I get discombobulated if Sioux Falls is north or south of Aberdeen, because I don't look at it on a map very often. I just know that, like, they're three hours apart and one's higher and one's lower, but like the geography-wise, I'm like, which fucking one is where? So it's three more hours

than what you're already putting in to come to lift hard. Well, if it was say like in October, that wouldn't be a problem. But December is always kind of tricky like what the weather's going to be. For sure. I have been playing with the idea of doing crew falls this year or next year kind of thing.

But I have a few other balls that I'm kind of juggling right now. Makes sense. So we'll kind of see. Because I got a meet coming up in October. I'm hoping to punch my ticket two nationals through that route. Nice.

And wherever that's going to be, that's going to cost X number of dollars to do. So I kind of have to take and choose. Is this in a different Fed or did Article 14 not apply anymore? I haven't kept up with fucking US IPF bullshit in years. I kind of phased out of carrying or really knowing much about that. No, I compete in the WRPF in Canada. Okay, okay, cool. Great.

WRPF Canada is completely separated from WRPF U.S. They had that separation when all that Russian stuff, rumors, whatever happened, right? But WRP Canada never changed the name, where WRPF U.S. changed name, I believe. Possibly. It's hard to keep it up. I don't know. There's been so many federations come and go and rebrand themselves, even though it's the same people. In Canada, we have, I think we're down to three federations.

How far do you have to drive? how far do you have to drive to compete typically? Like, do you have local meets? What do you consider a local meet? And then for you, like is that still like a hall? So the one in October is in Regina, Scotch 1.

And that's about three hours for me. Regina. Okay. No, I know. It rhymes with fun or rhymes with divorce. Well played. That was actually, this is going to be a good.

Actually, so Regina, the reason why it's called Regina. That's the name of the. I don't care what anyone says. That's the name of the episode. It's an old native term that means pall of old bones. Okay. Right?

Because there was a massacre there way back in 18 something, whatever, right? So then the natives in that land declared it, this, the land of Regina because of the massacre. Makes sense. So a pile of old bones. There's actually a very good brewery in Regina called Apollo Bones, a very beautiful little spot, great beers. right by the real world chalk. Good times.

Nice. So a local mate for you is a three-hour haul. Like that stinks. So anyone listening, we are spoiled if you can do strongman or power lifting within an hour of your house, like semi-regularly. So some people, you know,

there's a lot of our friends in North America, you know, or Canada, and in the states that have to drive several hours to even do anything local. So we are all, a lot of us are very spoiled and don't realize it. So what are that a supporting membership number? Do you have one of those cards or do you know your number?

Yeah, I go on the gold-terated. Nice. Okay, she's been around a couple years. Yeah, so that's 438. Nice. So you're probably in the mid-3s or at least the I-3s now because I think mine was like 98 or something, and I'm like 62 now, I think. So everyone's dropped at least 30 or 40 in the last few years.

Yeah, the least 420. Probably blown. Yeah. Go ahead, Jeff. I said at least 4.20, probably quite a bit lower than that, though. Oh, yeah. But the crews expand. Do you see on the Discord?

It's what, 1,100 members or something? I thought it was like 9 or 1,000. I think it's just under 1,000. Yeah, I think it's a, yeah. Oh, my bad. I must have misread it. Oh, you're close. With as many bots as there are, it feels like at 1100.

It's got to learn to cope with the bucks. You know, you got to learn to love them. You got to get a bug. Like a norm. Yeah, it's busy in there. I can't, I can't always read everything like I used to. too. Well, I'm desperately trying to log into my Jim Reader account. I don't know my password. For whatever reason, the guys are where they require this ultra-secure password.

The thing is you can go to Jim or Rader without signing in. Oh, that's right. I could do that? But Big Flo, you have a, do you have a home gym on Jim Raynor? Can you tell someone about it? Yeah, and it's grad. It's called the Flower Garden. The Flower Garden? Okay. Frozen or you're frozen? Now, is that flower garden in Regina? No.

No, that's the flower garden. The wicked flower garden. I made myself laugh on that one. No, I called the flower garden because my nickname is flower. Okay. So if you look in across my, like, inside of my belt, it says flower, on my singlets, flour, on my sleep, everything has flower on it, right? It's just a name from high school that I stuck with kind of thing.

Now that that's derived from Florian, not that you're like a hippie, right? Yeah, yeah, because people thought Florian was. a weird name. So they're like, we're just going to call you a flower. I'm like, all right, cool. That are about. That works. Or power. So the, so the, well, are there being three hours away from a competition? Are you hours? What's the, if you did, if you didn't have the home gym, like, was your home gym out of necessity because there's not shit close or does you just, you know, how did you, how did you come about the home gym? Um, so I started the home gym back when I moved to back to the farm because I was like,

lifting and everything and I figured that I need an outlet I can't just work 12 hours a day kind of thing right and the the gym in town so I'm about 15 minutes from the clear at the closest town but they want something like 60 bucks a month or some stupidness start that right and I was like I'm not driving 15 like we'll be half an hour each way I'll round trip and there's the weather is X Y and Z and a and if fuel on my vehicle, all that kind of stuff, my time. So then I started buying random stuff off of, so we call it Kijiji here in Canada. Yeah, that's our Craigslist, right?

Yeah, it's the Canadian Craigslist kind of thing, right? From Kijiji and Facebook Marketplace. So I kind of pieced together my gym from random things and just kind of made it work. It was very cheaply done in the beginning. Now it may have cost me a bit too much money. But when I got that, it was just, it's just so weird. easy just to walk out to my garage off to work and get a lift in some days it's only 15 minutes half hour other days i can get a full two hours it all really depends kind of thing

try to buy equipment that matches the specifications of your training or you're like brian and shaw who just has the old you know york peterbar and so that well i i started off with very very cheap equipment because i was like i had no idea because there's so much swathed out information out there i didn't know what's right kind of thing and then slowly I was able to sell a few of my cheaper pieces and pick up a few more high-end stuff that I'm quite happy with. None of my plates match, but that's just the hilariousness of it.

All my plates are different companies. All my plates are different colors. We at least have pairs that match, right? You just don't, like, your 25 aren't the same brand as your 45s. I got you. Yeah, everything is different.

Nice. So it makes me laugh. And then, like, I do have a very nice bar. Bell from Strong Arm, but that's it. Has it delivered yet? Do you want me to get me on this rant? So strong arm.

We, we, we, I mean, I'm not opposed to giving them too hard of a time, but I do feel a little bit bad, but not a ton. I don't. I don't. They fucked me around for a year already for my Delft bar. So my, my power bar came. I bought that for $150 when they had it on flash sale, September. Boom, came right away.

My deadlift bar, I bought that back in September last year. So like 11. Still like 11. Still not to be delivered. Right? Yeah. I felt bad because a good Canadian company, I'll support them kind of thing, kept asking Kaye backward or backward, backward.

And it was about three weeks ago, I exploded them on emails being like, you, this is ridiculous. I don't care what's going on with your company. I don't care. Like, why is strong arm going on? under when you have Bells of Steelers is Canadian. They're doing excellent. When you have Northern Fitness, which is a Canadian company to do rep, which is doing excellent.

Every other Canadian company is doing amazing, but they're not. What's going on? That's their issue. And I'm like, this is 11 months waiting for a deadlift bar. Like this is nuts. So then they finally be like, well, we'll send you a Bell's of Steel one. Well, we'll see if that happens the next week. Or if I get a refund and just buy it from Bell's of Steel.

No, like he's going to, do you think he's going to, like, he's just going to, like, order one from Bell's of Steel and send it to you, just to kind of appeal. It's interesting. They're wholesale of Bells of Steel. They sell Bells of Steel stuff. So we'll see if I get it. Yeah.

If not, refund, be done with them. Go to Bell's Steel Direct, buy a deadlift bar, which is they just started selling like a month ago. I wasn't even aware of this. Yeah, I didn't know they had one. Yeah. No, it just came live three weeks ago. Well, hopefully you get it less than 11 months. Yeah, it's on one hand you want to support a good Canadian company.

On the other hand, it's like, what are you doing kind of thing? Yeah, that's not fun. That's for sure. I know it's kind of dead anyone from America buying his products just because the import fees now are outrageous, or at least what he has to charge or wants to charge, I don't know. But taking people's money and then not ever ordering the fucking, you know, the freighter from China, just holding onto this money. and then just taking more money and more money.

That's not back order. That's just you don't know how to run a business and you don't have enough capital to actually stay ahead of the curve. Like that's just, I don't know. Jeff could probably chime in on how that's inaccurate on how you would run a business, I'd imagine, by the dollar amount. Well, I think people just get in over their heads very quickly. I mean, a lot of people running business sits, you know, hanging by a thread.

But I don't know. That last video that somebody shared, I mean, it's kind of like he doesn't have your money anymore. So don't bother asking for a refund because the money is not here. I just kept thinking of, what was that? What's that movie? It's a wonderful life with for making the run on the bank. Have you guys seen that movie? Yeah.

You see that flow? No. You know, the banker there is saying like, well, we don't have your money here. You know, and your money's in his house and in his house. And that's just the vibe I got like, you know, don't come. Yeah, but you can just do cash back, like what's called payback off your credit card and report for fraud and get your money back right away. Yeah, chargeback. Mathematics things about chargebacks.

Yeah, they do. We should all do that one of these days. He just wakes up, but he has like 69 chargebacks. Yeah. That'd be the worst. I mean, Tommy does report us on Zoom every week for being for being weirdos when he kicks us out. So it'd only be fair. We pay them back.

Now, if anyone's listening, don't fucking do that. I didn't, that wasn't advice. It was a joke. Big Flower. What is, so you got your friends to get us to, that you, you know, you, you, you, you, You did have some people fill out the questionnaire. There was a little confusion on what day we needed it, but you did come in. I actually had about four of your buddies submitted for us.

So outside of the ones that already kind of know who we are, how did you go about explaining why you need a random questionnaire filled out for a podcast? I was like, so I'm part of a cult and I'm going on a cult podcast to fill this out. And they're like, oh, okay. And I'm like, yeah, it's fine. fine, just do it, just do it, just do it. It's fine. And then they did it. Fair enough. I appreciate that.

Any better way to explain it? No. And I do get it. It's people that are, you know, if you're coming to be a guest in the future, like, the episode is going to be as good as as as much shit as we get from you. Like, granted, there's weeks we don't cover a tenth of what's submitted because we just converse. And then there's times that we cover everything submitted and then we try to pull information out of the guests and they're just a fucking a rock that won't talk.

So it's hard to, it's hard. So each week's a little bit different. But only given us one or two submissions doesn't help. So I appreciate everyone that follows up with their friends and family and gets us those submissions because, especially for example, Florian has like, do I think Jeff referenced that he had like four Instagram posts? There's only so much we can gather from someone that doesn't have a large social media presence. I think I saw your Facebook and you haven't posted since 2021. So there's not a lot of activity out there.

So the, no, I'm not a very big. social media person. So we appreciate Nate building the questionnaire for us and I appreciate you guys filling it out. Big Florian, are you familiar with this game we like to play called least fun most fun?

Yeah, probably. All right, so a refresher for anyone listening. So in in 2030 when people are listening to this further checkmark in the future because we'll probably have a Hall of Fame card maybe someday ourselves, you know, a very original idea, behind a paywall, etc.

Lease fun, most fun. It's a game we like to play. We give the guest a single topic and they go through and use their druthers, and they tell us the least fun thing about it and the most fun thing about it. It's not either or it is a give me two answers, please. So, Big Florian. Lease fun, most fun, the zoo, and everything that pertains to the zoo, you know, Saturday night and, you know, maybe the Sunday morning side effects. Oh, the zoo is just, um, oh, fuck all the other, but it's in words. No, so when I went there the first time and obviously the second time, it reminds me.

me of like my university is when I was like 19 and for anyone doesn't know our drinking age is 18 not 21 right so it reminded me of like being 18 19 years old going to these bars and everything and it's just a greasy dump but it's just an excellent or uh excellent establishment and everything so like the most fun would be like the beginning of the of the night when it's just like all the crews and everything. Like, I don't think I paid for a drink for the single, any time I was there. I think it may have paid for one or two drinks because everyone seems to buy me one for some reason.

Whatever reason. But it was just, it's just nice that to go there in the beginning, just be completely relaxed, have way too many beers, doesn't just shoot the shit with people, talk about random subjects. It's very good atmosphere. Least fun is when you're at like 1.30 in the morning, 2 a.m., and it's like all the And it's just a weird, oh, some of them here just kind of look at me, like, what are you? There are some interesting people that come in at like 1.32 o'clock.

And like both years, I drank right to 2 a.m. and it was like, this is an interesting time. Like, Aberdeen is an interesting city. I can tell you that I'm like. Still loads of fun and everything. Nice. So I was fun to do as a dive bar. It is that dive bar.

Man, I feel bad for the server or whoever has to clean the troughs out. Because there's always so much you can piss in them. Like, I feel so bad for them. Oh. So I don't think I've seen the troughs after, like, maybe midnight. I don't know. Yeah, when you go in there at, like, 1.30, 2 o'clock, it's a disaster. And you just, and you just see that lonely server come in with their big,

big old robber gloves in the garbage bucket you're like ooh I know what you're doing I saw the assholes put in their dip and zins and shit in there that's that's not excusable like throw that shit in the trash candle be a fucking yeah I don't get that like why throw you zins into the urinals and stuff I never got that I throw his little mine in my pocket or in my

garbage can like I'd shoot tobacco for years when I was a youth and I never I don't remember ever not disposing of it like in a bottle and then put the bottle in the trash like or like in the groin like out in the woods or something I don't know that was very courteous with my

mouth litter. Yeah, but the same thing when I used to chew and everything. I tried not to spit on public places and everything. Right? Like, if you're in the bush or whatever, it's fine. But don't spit around public places. All decency

goes out the window. Yeah, well, don't get me started on cigarette butts. Like, fuck, that makes me angry. Just throwing your cigarette butts everywhere? Yeah, that one's... That one's not cool. Big flow. What's the job situation look like? As little or as much as you'd like to share with this?

So I have three jobs myself. So my primary one is that I work on the farm. So we do majority of like pre-seating and post-arvest stuff. So the seat cleaning, all kind of good jazz, getting farmers ready for the field. And then we do a lot of the taking care of livestock and, fencing, right? There's that one. And then I'm also in the Army Reserves.

That's a whole story and a half. I'll get to that after my other one. And then I just started doing crop insurance. Okay. So to go in more in depth, right, with the farm hand, we, we, we, you get the crop from the field. You have mixed in whatever other different kind of crops in there are weeds. And we cleaned that, process it, getting you ready.

to go back into the field or into the human consumption world or into wherever it goes kind of thing. So we deal with a lot of export a business as well down to the states, to the southern places, things like that. So it's not too bad. The Army Reserves. So that's a funny story. So 18-year-old me, I got way too drunk and I was on my way to a social to a

with a bunch of buddies of mine, right? We cut through the university, take a, we stop at the washroom, and I see this poster on the bulletin board, joined the Army Reserves, and there's a phone number. Took a picture of it.

I'm like, oh, that could be fine. I don't know what that is, right? Next morning, phoned them, asked a bunch of questions, went down to the office in that afternoon,

signed all my paperwork and everything. Sounds like you did a lot of thorough research. Yeah, it did nothing. I'm like, what's the worst? it happen. So that...

For a credit card. Yeah, basically. Like, dumb 18 year old me. And with that, I'm a vehicle technician. So that is a mechanic in the Canadian forces. So with that, I was able to work on everything from like two-stroke chainsaws

all the way up to the leper two main bow tanks and everything in between. Damn. Currently, I'm with an artillery unit out in Skatch one. And I am the what's my full job title I work in the queue

so I work with a lot of the logistics side of the house so supply transport ammunition maintenance all that kind of stuff is my wheelhouse so that's I'm the two I see for that so second in command and I deal with a lot of that kind of jazz and very

I'm very good at it's with logistics and sorting things out So there's that. Then my secondary duty in there is CBRN defense. So chemical, biological, radiation, nuclear defense. That's a whole 10-week course I took. So it's very, very scientific or very stuff like that. Lamous terms, what happens if we get hit with mustard gas, basically?

What do we do? Is what I kind of get into. So there's that. Then with crop insurance. I just started that on the side. So what I do with for that is I go to fields because we had horrible flooding this spring. My Lord, never seen anything like this. Like the old man's been farming for damn near 40 years here.

Like we've never seen flooding like that before. Just insane amount of flooding. Right. So then with crop insurance, I go out and being like, oh, this field got flooded out. I draw on a map, deal with my paperwork, all that kind of stuff. Then I go measure bins, things, that kind of nature. How much can the farmer get back in what they put in for the insurance and how much we can give you kind of thing? So then I work for the province of Manitoba.

I think that kind of sums it up. Questions, comments, parents, inquiries? Well, the farming is interesting. So do you have specific crops that do you take care of there? What's like the, what's the main output of the farm? So, like, majority of our lines rented out, we do more of the, the pre-seating and post-arvest cleaning of it

and preparation for that kind of atmosphere. As well as we export a lot of, like, oats down to the States for them to grow and all that kind of good jazz. And then we also deal with in the feed market and for cattle feed and whatever else animal feed. as well as we have a bunch of pasture land that we rent out for cattle and we take care of the cattle once they're on the pasture so we fix the fences look at them they're good and healthy right do they need shots things like that there's the fences up to go up to go like good example this spring once we had that terrible flooding i had fenced that i was going into the water like up to my nipples on my neck trying to find the wire what's below there to bring it up and everything. That was a disaster

and a half. As I'm doing that, the old man is laughing at me because I'm soaked and... Yeah, that's fun. Nice. You get to drag the big combine like our friend Big Nick in Indiana does

or there's robots now or that's just not part of your job? No, no, I haven't sat in a combine since I was 12, maybe? Oh, wow, okay. I think, no, when I'm, when I haul green for the, when I work for the neighbors

for a harvest and stuff, I'm usually in the semi or the tando. right i don't like the combine very much the the combines for the old man right yeah i'll drive the semi so you're on a family farm basically right you said so how much how much land do you guys own ballpark uh about 1800 acres jesus that's tiny that's that's well i mean i my yeah i to us city slickers so then you said you sub so you you you you sub out pasture land but you also sub out most of the crop. So you sub out your land to be,

you rent your land, then someone else comes in and crops, like does their crops on it. Now do you, and then we, we take care of it as well. So afterwards, we'll go mow along the bush lines and the sloughs and take down some trees and stuff.

So they combine to actually get closer so we can get more land cropped and everything. Now, do you have like established people you've worked? Because I could see that being like almost like a liability of like, if your dirt isn't up to snuff on what they think they're going to get and their crops aren't up to par? Like, is that a thing you have to deal with? Or do you have, like, the same dude you've been working with for years and it's just, it's just rinse and repeat?

We've been renting out to the same guys for the last 10 years or so we know it's good stuff and everything. And they also get their soil samples. So we'll test to see what the nutrients are in it. So we have an idea of what's going on, right? We know our soil types and everything. What's around us, we can kind of a better adjust. And then what are they doing for crops?

Because different crops are going to affect. their soil and stuff. And plus, if we want to go down the rabbit hole of frost-free days and heat units and everything, that's a whole other, it's a whole conversation there. 1,800 yards. What's that in like, I mean, I get that it's probably not like a square, but like, what is that in like miles or how long would it take? Like, I'm, I don't have a reference of what 1,800 yards is.

Like, I get that it's, or acres, sorry, sorry, acres. I can't imagine. what is it, 160 is in a section. So a section is mile by a mile. Yeah, that's math. So then we are the big math part. We are the big math. That's 12.

Thereabouts. 13 miles-ish. Okay. And my quick math tells me, right? That's a lot. That's a lot of, that's a decent amount of land. And that's it's, but that's, now you had mentioned earlier, you had mentioned the home country or the old country,

is that elaborate on that more for people that might not know what you mean or where you mean? Yeah, so my mom is from Germany. My mom is from Austria. Okay. That's the reason why I have the name Florian, because Florian is a very traditional name in Austria and Germany. Very traditional, right? It's as common as like, your Riley's or your Davids here, right?

And then when my parents immigrated in 1990, and when they decide to have the offspring, they wanted traditional names for all of us, kind of thing. Right? So my brother is Benjamin, I'm Florian, my sister, Suzanne,

but she has the German spelling of Suzanne, not the English spelling where English is S-U-Z. She has S-U-S-U-S. Hmm. Susson. Right? Does she get, well, I guess,

does she get a lot of her life being called Susson or does anyone, like, get confused by that? Because, or I guess, S-U-Z, S-U-S-U-S. I don't even know. I guess I wouldn't, I don't ever spelled Susan very often. Well,

people find any way to screw up a name. So they'll, yeah, yeah, that was actually a second. That was a segment I was going to go over earlier, but I was going to push it till next week. But since it, it's,

you know, it's relevant here. I've known Hogan for four years. And apparently he's told me multiple times. I've told, you know, pronounced his name wrong and I've never heard him or acknowledged or remembered that.

I've called him Hogan gaggle for fucking four years. And it's giggle. And I would have, you could have put a gun to my head. and I would not have known that. And then if it's got, I was like, have you ever told me that? And he's like, yes. And I was like, ah, fuck.

Sorry, buddy. It's like, apparently you've corrected me more than once. And I sure as fuck, I've never heard you say that in my life. But, you know, we'll just put him in the list with my, we'll group him with my wife of things I've been told. I don't remember. I don't remember. So that's a good list to be in. I thought you're going to say his name.

I thought you're going to say his name was Hogan. No, no. Yeah, just the last name. I've definitely called a gaggle for many years. And it is giggle. Yeah. Uh, see. And then on top of that, there's a fun one.

So my middle name in English is Christian. Right? The German pronunciation is Christian. Hmm. Right? So that throws people for a loop kind of thing because, like, my mother insists that I go by Christian. Not by Christian, it's Christian. Spelled the same, everything's the same.

It's just from the pronunciation from old country to here. Yeah. The good thing is at least it's your middle name. You don't go by your middle name at least. Like that would be harder on your life if you went by that name regularly and then had to always correct people. And that at least it, you know, at least he did do a favor and only made your middle name harder. Yeah. And like with my name, because it's unusual and everything, there was the one time, like where I used to live in Winnipeg,

we were right down the street from a pizza place, eh? So me and a bunch of buddies were just pissed drunk. Oh, we're going to order pizza. So we'll order from this place. And I'm the one on the phone. I give my name Florian. The guy goes, that's not a real fucking name. Hanged up on me.

And I look at my buddy Simon. Was that Paul O'Dwyer that said that when he, Tanner's not a real name? No. And it's like, I look at my buddy Simon. I'm like, what am I supposed to do? So Simon phones. So we walk to the place there. And I go in there.

And I'm like, who's the guy who spoke to me on the phone? And I was like, well, this man, I pull my license. I throw my license. That's my real name. That is my name. Well, and that guy's defense, he probably gets a couple prank calls a week. It's a bullshit name. And then they eat like $100 worth of pizza that never gets picked up.

But like, that is shitty to be the, yeah. Yeah, I guess, yes, I can relate sometimes with name issue. Most of we talk about lifting. You quite an accomplished lifter there. Florian looks like it. You got some big goals. How did you get started in lifting? What did your journey look like?

So way back when I was 18, when I first moved to the city of Winnipeg to go to university, I was bored because I came from a farm like manual labor and all that kind of stuff. I was bored. So I was like, oh, I'll go check out this kind of gym thing. So I go into the gym. no idea what i'm doing i'm just you know playing around kind of thing and uh that was so my my first training partner uh i picked up what he picked me up because he was like oh this kid's big you might be good right and i end up benching like uh 225 in the first two or three months of training

or whatever right and i i had no reference that was good or bad or x y and z that kind of thing, right? Because I'm some dumb hick, right? After I did that, my training partner got extremely angry at me. And like he tried everything you could to sabotage me for the first, for like the next month or so after that because his goal was to bench 225 and I beat him to it. So he's extremely angry that I did it for him.

So that was a whole fiasco with like learning, yeah, find your training partners that will want to lift you up and not shit on you for succeeding kind of thing so then I played around in the gym for that first six, eight months

then I end up, when I end up joining the army, the culture in the army was that you need to be physically fit, you need to be strong kind of thing, right? Then I was able to pick up from a lot of the guys who were in my platoon that was similar ages to me that we were all,

after work, go to the gym. All weekends, go to the gym. We had no idea what we were doing. We were just throwing weights around and just having fun kind of thing. So that kind of evolved just as a habit and as fun times kind of thing, right? Then I ended up going to the YMCA because I was a, what was that? time was like 20 bucks a month and a 10 minute walk from my apartment right right that's a whole other tangent we can go on to the beautiful ymca and then um so i did that for numerous years

covid hit i needed something to do so then i turned into training for a marathon actually during co-bid time because i figured like i'm just sitting my apartment drinking all the day i need something to do. So then I started training for a marathon. That was great. What's the longest run you got to? Or did you run a marathon, actually? No, I didn't get to a marathon. I think I got up to about, I think 15, 16 kilometers. Okay. So what is that, miles? That's, uh, yeah, about 10 maybe or so. Actually, I just calculate that. That's easy calculation. six tenths of a mile is a kilometer is that right? 5.06.

26, that's not right. Oh, no, no. It's 16 multiply 1.6. So 25 mile, right? Okay. We went the wrong way, Jeff. We were not big math. I was like, I was like, wait, didn't it going to be?

No, that's less than. So we're both. So who's the fuck's wrong? Who's wrong? Jeff or you? Well, Google, Google, since 16 kilometers is not. 9.9. Okay.

So, Jeff, I mean, that, I mean, Jeff does have a coffee cup with like a five-star review for his math ability. So big flow, you are not big math, big Jeff is. No, what I think. Texas barbells. The only Texas barbells is that because we don't, you know, measure things in better. Yeah. So then I did that. The gym's reopened.

Went back to the gym. And then when I moved back to the farm, it was the same thing. I was building my home gym. I was like, fuck, I need something. I need a goal. I need something to do,

right? And power lifting, I saw, uh, west side versus the world. That's what's called. And I'm like, that's beautiful.

That's amazing. That's what I want, right? And I've also been watching world's strongest man. And I thought both sides are really cool. So I took a coin and I was like, tails. I do power lifting strong upheads.

I do strong. Right? So flip the coin. it land on tails I'm like okay guess I'm doing powerlifting let's figure this out kind of thing yeah so then I signed up for my first meet bought my single in and everything

I didn't total too good I think it was like 670 kilo well that's like that's like 13400 pounds so I think that's pretty good big juggichia tell us I think it's 1300 plus it's every bit of 13 1475 is what I told of my first meet. Oh yeah.

There's some of us that's toiled our entire life and haven't broken 1,200, so it's okay. I think you're a little stronger than the average American. Yeah, that's also a problem with mine where I tend to shit on myself a lot about numbers where I don't realize that what I'm hitting is unbelievable to a lot of people. but I have that habit if I always shit on myself being like,

fuck, you only did that? Well, and then I don't think, I don't take that. I have a problem where I don't take two steps back and being like, oh,

what I just did was a lifetime goal for someone else. For me, that's like, that's hard right, though. I mean, we see on Instagram,

and yeah, yeah, there's always somebody stronger than you out there, but it's tough to do. And if it's a little bit of a little bit of it. Well, with fucking Colton out there

totaling 2,600 or 2, at like, like, two seventy-five. It's like, there's no, you know what I mean. Like, there's everything's scalable. Like, like, he totals a thousand. You know, he totals 800 pounds more than Floreen, but he totals a thousand fucking 1,200 pounds more than us or whatever the fuck. So it's like, you know, everything is scalable.

Everyone is, I judge people. I think everyone, most people just people by, you know, that was hard. That was awesome for them. Like, I don't give a fuck what the weight on the bar is. So it's really cool to see people put hard work in. But you are stronger than a lot of us. That's for sure. Yeah.

And then if we, like, so I was called. a few years back so we fast forward then I switch from sleeves to wrap to knee wraps because I just look I don't know I just like knee wraps. There's gonna be I have absolute pain when you're getting a good wrap in

and then just getting so hyped up you do the lift and you're like whole well how was how was you so sorry to interrupt but how was year one then do you self-rap or did you like Instagram asked someone prior to the lift or live easy to wrap you but you didn't know

So year three I got scant to wrap me Okay Because I was just asking around Like who can wrap me kind of thing Like prior to or like day of Or like like weekend At loggers actually

Okay so so you went You drove to Aberdeen without knowing who could wrap your knees Nope I was like You know what worse comes the worst I can wrap myself Okay right But I know what I'm self wrapping for a comp I need to go three out I need to plan.

I just, there's so much. It's hard. It's more effort, basically. Yeah. I like that attitude. No excuse not to go. Just go and figure it out.

Yeah. And then for Lift Hard 4, I self-wrapped for my opener. And then for two and three, I forget his name. He was the bald guy wearing the red shirt that was running around. He works for Jonah. Right?

Okay. Because he came up to me. because during my flight, I don't know if you guys caught that, where a Parker, he scratched his second or third. So then you had to go quicker than you thought. Yeah. Well, he came up to me being was like, okay, you have two choices. Do we either skip Parker completely go to you or we load Parker's weight and you get a full minute to wait?

So he's telling me all this stuff. And I look at him like, can you wrap my knees? Yeah, sure. incredible trust. Well, it's the crapshoot that like someone, you know, not everyone in the sport of his powerlifting would know how to wrap knees so that you ask someone with like there being a 50, 50 chance he knew how to do it. It was pretty funny.

And he clearly did at least, you're saying? Well, what I found out afterwards, he was like a big equipped power lifter. Oh, dope. 10 years ago and when he wrapped my knees those were like I don't know how often you guys had your knees wrap but that was never the best wrapping ever had it was tight but it was loose I don't know how to explain it but when you had a really good wrap job it's perfect it feels really good he did a really good job wrapping my knees we had a lot of time I feel so bad because like forget his name and I thanked him like fucking a dozen times.

Don't feel bad. I think most people forgot about 50% of the people's names at Liftort Live Easy because I know I couldn't name everyone if, you know, if I had to. Oh, well, that was the problem with like Lyft tired where it's like year one. So year three year three year one where everyone call it. Year three. I think I met like a hundred plus people on that same weekend and I felt bad because I reintroduced myself to the same person.

maybe four times without realizing it. And everyone was like, we just talked and like, I just talked to how many people and now I'm back to you and then they're like, oh, okay, that's fine. There's only one person who I'm really angry at me and I can't remember who it was.

Fuck that guy. But then year before, I remember walking on Thursday and looking around, I'm like, okay, I recognize faces, but I'm like kind of staring at people. Yep.

We need name tags like all four days, not just, not just at Tanner's. Dude, the name tapes on the Friday night at Tanner's, clutch move. It was the greatest thing, like top three ideas of the weekend. I need name tags with ribbons.

Like at conferences, you've got a ribbon for, you know, how many years you've been there, you've got a ribbon for winning an award. Take that down. We want name tags with ribbons. Well,

one thing, I will put this as a reminder to Tanner because we had talked about it. I had mentioned on the live episode, but they're, you know, they're busy doing the little thing, so they probably forgot.

but at Lift Hard Live Easy next year, at some point we need to have where everyone's, what they did at home JimCon was Jake had everyone stand up and then like he's had him, if it was your first year, sit down, if it's your second year, sit down, and then got all the fourth year and you look around and there's only like 20 people standing up. So doing that again at Lifter LeVizzie and realizing there probably is only, because I think Tanner specifically asked like for people that don't live in South Dakota, how many have been to all four and there's not a ton, like it's under 10, I think. And then even if you clude South Dakota people, it's hardly not more than 20.

So seeing that, not sure how we're going to do it. because you're not going to have people sit in the grass at fucking Tanners, but maybe at Lift-Hard-Live-Easy where there is actually chairs or something about that. But that'd be really cool. So, Tanner, this is your reminder to write that down to do that because I want to see it at Lifter-Livisi 5. Sorry to interrupt, but I needed to get that out there because Tanner forget shit. Since we're back on, go ahead, Joe.

I just said since we're back on Lept-Hard-Live-Easy, we got some crew questions about the Lift-Easy too. Well, Big Tommy wants to know how the bench hit. Big Tommy Schneider. I should be more clear. The Schneider. I should be more clear. The Steeplewere. Did he hand me off?

He must have. This is a thing I felt so bad for because, like, I always make it a point of thanking all the referees, thanking all the volunteers. And this year, I thanked all the referees. And I went to go thank the volunteers, right? And I looked around, and I was like, wait a minute. don't actually know who spot or load for me because like when I go out in the platform I black out it's me in the bar kind of thing right so I felt so bad for that because I had people coming up to the zoo being oh yeah it's so great and oh that's how well where were you kind of thing

they're like we were spotting you on the left side I'm like oh I didn't even realize you were that person so I I tried my heart as at the zoo to try to find all the volunteers to thank them so if any of the volunteers like thank you very much for volunteering like that's very well done like it's probably one of the best groups of volunteers i ever seen at any meet very well done yeah in terms of the handoffs very well done right he understood exactly what i said and because i always do like like when i go out to find someone to hand off i always go okay it's one two three and we go for lunch and we go for lunch and or go for breakfast.

Something strange at the end. Just to see what happens, right? But he did a very good job and everything, right? I was just two week for my third attempt. That happened. Yeah, they're fantastic volunteers. And good on you for recognizing that. I should be more thoughtful.

And I always forget that kind of stuff because I've been my own world. But, I mean, it's a smooth meat. It runs well. Lightning fast, too, to have. a two-platform meet you like it did. So all of the volunteers and referees and everything did fantastic. Yeah. Well, that threw me off quite a bit because Flight A was, I want to say it was like eight people.

Flight B was 13. So like I've got I squads. I warmed up way too quick thinking that Flight B was the same size of Flight A. And I was like, oh, they're just finishing the firsts. Yeah. But again, whatever the reason that is, I can say Jonah ran a beautiful meat. And the differences between Dave and Jonah, there's quite a bit of differences that I found kind of thing. Yeah.

Yeah, I think I had the left turn ran well. It was. It was. And just to poke one other acting here before the next question is that I felt like the warm-up room, was outstanding with Jonah versus David. And when I made that comment to someone, because with year three there, there was so many random fucking people

just hanging out, doing nothing, and just getting in my way, I hated that so much. Year four, there was no, there was no one. There was just the lifters of that flight. I made that comment to someone,

and they're like, yeah, Jonah's been kicking people out of the warm-up room. So I don't know if that's true or not. Good. Okay. But like I saw it back there a couple times. Yeah. Yeah.

Like I, I didn't see it myself, but I was told that Jonah was physically like, telling people get out, get like. And I love that. And if that's true, he had complete control of the warm up room.

That's amazing. That really did help quite a bit. And I love that. Year three, I hated that. It was like so many fucking people everywhere. leave just why are you here kind of thing right but jonah controlled that area got rid of all the people that shouldn't be there it was clean crisp going down to four combo rocks instead of five

and just giving us that bigger space that was beautiful well done we loved love to hear that it's a very good feedback we like to hear that for sure that does uh you know i know there was some people that were nervous about switching from you know the someone that's done it for three years to, you know, someone coming in. Not that Jonah hasn't done meets for years, but, you know, traveling to do a meet's a little, you know, it was never easy. Um, but I do think one big thing that helped too is just there was more, there was less non-crew or people that only joined crew just to go do, like there was a significant, there was a, some amount of people, I would say, at least a dozen or more that came to most of Liffler of EZZs and it technically might have been

crew, but didn't get it and only joined because they wanted to do Dave's meets, because Dave does put on a flashy show. So they didn't add anything to our experience of the Lifted Lov Easy. So Dave leaving eliminated a lot of these Dave only crew that are probably not crew anymore. And it's just a lot more core crew that actually were there. And I think that overall experience, I don't know if anyone else noticed that. I personally noticed that because there's a lot of people that. I didn't see as many new faces or people that are like, oh, I've seen you here, but you don't interact with anyone except like the two people that you came with because you don't really want to be here to hang out with us.

you just want to do a cool powerlifting meet and, like, take advantage of how cool we are, but not actually interact with us, which is like, why are, well, don't steal our time with, you know, that. Florian, one quick thing I got for you. A lot of your stuff, I think, just how old are you? Because sometimes that puts a lot of things in different perspective. Like, you know, something that I can't tell if someone's 25 or 35. So it's always nice to, I think it makes the stories make worse since.

31, if I had to guess. No. Are you 26? 29. Okay. Well, fuck you. 31 is really fucking close. I don't want to...

No. Everyone knows 30s when you die. Fuck you. I'm 41 and Jeff's older than me. So, shut up. Don't be mean. Yeah. I'm just kidding, guys.

No, I know. Oh, good stuff. Good stuff. It's all jokes. No, that's why we're here. Well, that and you get to know more about you. I think we're doing a pretty good job. We've got a whole lot of, a whole lot more to dive into, though.

Um, true. Some interesting hobbies. Yeah, go ahead. just reading. I hear you like you like some sci-fi. What is your what is your sci-fi book a choice? Or have you been into the Red Verizon or the Carls, Dungeon Collar, or anything like that that like, you know,

a lot of us are familiar with? Can we wait like two seconds? Yeah, buddy. That's good, buddy. Jeff, what is, we had one more Jeff topic we didn't get to, didn't we? Let's see. Okay, so I hear Jeff, your follow-up. So lifting in the commercial gym the last year,

So you did all your prep there versus prepping in the garage, better or worse as far as the power lifting prep specifically? Or were you dealing with any injuries? Like you basically comparing like, you know, because power lifting, you're literally a total. You had a total last year or a total this year. Was there any outside factors or was it just the like? You're asking me what did the prep go find at the commercial general? It was a different. Basically.

Yeah. Like, because I know, I thought you think you had a bench PR and then we're not happy with your squat and deadlift maybe or vice versa or. Yeah, I didn't hit any PRs, but that was more, I think, just inconsistency. Actually, the commercial gym, I think, will fix a lot of the inconsistency problems because it is hard for, you know, as easy as it should be to get out there in the garage. It can be hard when the weather's terrible or when it's hot or just, you know, it gets difficult. Or, you know, if I am trying to, you know, rehab something or something's a little bit sore, I don't have a lot of variety in accessories. So actually, I mean, prep was good. And I was glad to be able to at least attempt a deadlift PR, even though I didn't hit it.

I didn't think that was on the table. So, no, I mean, I really have no complaints. Nice. Well, Big Flo's back. Oh, yeah, sci-fi books, buddy. What's your reading? What's your book of choice, et cetera? How do I word all this?

Kind of beautiful questions. So sci-fi books are absolutely fascinating. Where I got into them a couple of years back. So I have a collection. of books. So my oldest book is from 1923, 25. That's a hundred years old. Yeah, I picked it up at a thrift store actually. So I have a lot of books from like 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, etc. Right. And then that launched me down this rabbit hole because I noticed the style of writing and the themes of them have changed quite a bit. There's a beautiful,

essay out there about sci-fi right so basically your the books that are written in like 1910, 1920 is based off your radio plays once you get to your

1930s they are starting to switch over to more of a theme of mechanical skills kind of thing then you have the 40 special Roswell hits boom that's when you have

you have a lot of quite, well, back to the 1930s, a good example is the War of the Worlds, right? That the radio play that caused the panic and the movie and stuff, if I remember right, that was written in 1937. I could be wrong about that. I would have to re-look it up. Close enough. Close enough.

It's okay. I got... Don't go down the rabbit hole of what year it is. Come on. Right. Stay on topic. The 1940s. when hits the,

the Roswell incident, that's when more of the books changed towards scientific like aliens and stuff

right, then the once you hit the 50s, the 50s are a very interesting era of books because that's

when you have the Cold War where you have a lot of the Russian books are, we are better than the Americans

and their books are basically written like, oh, we understand the alien technology, but the

Americans don't kind of thing, right? But it's not written as Russian versus U.S. written in allegories, basically, right? Then once you get to the 60s, you have the rise of, like, anti-war books and anti-communism books. Very interesting stuff to read about then.

The 70s, they turn to a very good circle because that's when you have a lot of the rise of the hippies, as well as the giant sexual revolution that happens in the States. So that goes into the books and everything. And then you go down to the 80s, 90s, et cetera. And one thing that I enjoy, because now I kind of know these eras, is you take the year when the book was written and you just throw it into Wikipedia. What has happened in the world during that year?

Because a lot of these books that are being written, yeah, there's sci-fi and everything. that out. So a lot of these books, they're science fiction, but they're very much reflecting on what's happening in the real world. My biggest example is when you look at Star Wars, right? Star Wars was written in 1977 by George Lucas. George Lucas was a very large anti-imperialism and anti-Vietnam War books, right? So that's why a lot of the themes in the first Star Wars movie and Star Wars book is about a small group of rebels defeating a massive empire.

Well, who do you think that is? That is the Viet Cong versus the U.S. government and win it. That's as a preparerals, right? So, like, George Lucas was very against the Vietnam War. So he wrote a book to protest that kind of thing. So, like, that's a dark tangent. But that's what I find very fascinating when you go down to some of these. older books and you start reading them, then you look at the years, okay, what happened during that

year? What kind of context of that? And then it's, it makes the books way more interesting because they're based off of real, real world events, but not real world events. If you get my draft kind of thing. And you wait so after to look at them up or do you do it before? I think it'd almost be more interesting to like look at the current, look up current events during that year before you read it just to see if you can pick them out. Or do you, do you, do you trying to test yourself of like how much human history do I know can I pick these out before researching?

Yeah, so I usually do it like halfway in between because I'm a massive reader. Like we look around. I have two bookshelves here. I got three bookshelves across. Like I have a shit ton of books. Oh yeah. Right? So that also comes from like I grew up

dirt, fucking poor way below the poverty. Right? Just. Absolutely. The poor as you can think of, that's how I grew. But what my parents always did was we're going to spend money on books. It doesn't matter. We're going to get books, right?

Because my parents understood the value of education, the value of reading. So we were reading, understanding, like we had scientific books as our bedtime stories kind of thing. so that brings that awe and environment kind of thing. As well as I spend a lot of time on Wikipedia and researching stuff because I don't believe in anything that's out there. If that makes sense. I believe, but I don't believe. I think that everyone should do their own research on any subject

before speaking about the subjects because I don't believe in arguments. I believe in discussions. So the only way we can have discussions is if we understand where the other side comes from. So that's why I look up by research. I read multiple books. I read a fucking Atlas for Fonzie's for one time. Right?

Things like that. Did you say, go ahead. I was going to say, did you read anything in preparation to discuss with Jeff and I, so we didn't have to argue? Nope. Verve and the hip, dude. That's how I do most of my life. Well, obviously I read the Bible and the Torah and everything for this.

We'll get into that later. There is a book's channel in the U and you Discord, so you can check that out and join the conversation there. Since you've got such a long history and all these old books that go back decades and stuff, which is awesome, any older series that you would, throw at our crew members that like sci-fi books and say, hey, go back in time and pick this one up. You might like it if you like this. Give me two seconds.

I think I remember the name. I know it's on my shelf right over here. All right. Those walked off camera to his bookshelf to grab something. Something special for everybody. One of my favorite series is the Hitchhiker Trilit. It is the five-part trilogy of the galaxy. Very well-done book.

It's laughter. It's very well-written and everything of that, right? And is that, because I'm not an expert. Is that part of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy? Is that the whole thing? Or is that one of those five books? Yeah, so the movie is based off of the first book, right? So, because the joke is it's a five-part trilogy.

Yeah, okay. Didn't until you said it. Yeah, because it's Hitchhiker Guide trilogy, but it's five books. Very well done, very well written. I would always recommend people

reading that one. Then we go to the next one. What do we have here? For Jim, Balli of the Seacraft, Dracula, the Queen of Africa. I don't know if you can hear me.

Yep. We can. He can't be king. He likes to read. All of us always a good one. Uh, do-do do-do to do all be back. Okay.

Well, that's that second of a collection. Come back over. I got more questions. Did he leave the room to go look at his other bookshelf? I think he did. That's great. We will have to ask him what his opinion on audiobooks is. It sounds like he's working in the dirt 24-7

out there. I don't know. Maybe it's probably locations that AirPods might not be great so he doesn't listen to... Okay, so other ones. So obviously,

Jurassic Park. The book is... The first book was good. I didn't like the second book. I didn't read the second book. This one I picked up a drift store. It's one of the original ones that was written back in the 90s.

A very good book. Very different of the movie. Very text. Michael Connolly, right? Yeah. And, like, I think the movies, it didn't do it justice when the book was, because the book, it leads you up to all the islands, all this stuff. And then it goes, b'am! You're like, oh, fuck me, that's good.

The next one, we'll take my bookmark out of that one, because I'm reading that one right now. The Callinghands Cross Time Saloon by Robert Spiders. So this was written, I believe in the series. 70s. Let me double check. So it's a lot of got a lot of sexual revolution Uh,

yeah. So yeah. I think this is going to be your Mount Rushmore, Jeff. No, no, we're getting to the one that has watched that. So like the, the, uh,

Callahan's Cross Time Saloon, that was written. So originally it started as, um, there was a magazine at during that time, sci-fi something, I can't remember the name of it, where he had short stories in there.

And they come into the books. Now basically a, Calanans is it's a bar that's in New York that exists at all times everywhere at the same time, basically. Right? So they have many different travelers who come into there saying, hey, this is what is happening. Black hole, X, Y, and Z, different sci-fi things happening, or people are coming into the bar where I just committed atrocities or like I just seen something. I don't know what to do. So they sit at the bar and they drink their whiskey.

And people are that, if they're recounting their stories, the bar, the people at the bar, and they're all giving it two cents. It's a very well-written book. I'm still looking for the remainder of the series, which is hard to find.

I'm not going to pay 50 bucks on Amazon for the rest of them. I love my second hand bookstores, though. Oh, I love you so much. Right. All right. So that's another good one. Yeah, give us one more.

So that'll be our belt, Rushmore of books that crew needs to go back and read so they can learn their history. No, not that one. That one's all right. Where in the fucking trial? Nope, we're off screen again. He's got multiple. He's got multiple libraries.

Yeah. Well, yeah, I think that has to be as Mount Rushmore because I don't want to make the the crew listen to a seven-hour episode. And we still have several more pages of notes to look through and try to cherry pick some gyms out of. Well, Jeff, you're, now if I had to give you a rating so far, would you like a,

would I rate you like Massonomics or do I rate you like I rate Rastanomics or do I rate you like you rate Massanomics? Well, I guess, I guess whatever I deserve. No, this has been a good. This is, it's always nice to get someone that kind of,

we don't miss a beat from when we have our regular host on with this. So this has been fun. This has been well. All right, Flo, do you have one more? One more for us. The book name is, I think it's my brother's place, but it's called Jungle's, a Guitar, something like that. It's based off basically.

Guitar like the country? No, no, no. If I remember right, it's based in the year like 3032 or something. Oh, geez. And is this timely island. This is a jungle planet that's used as a game reserve. So you can go hunt dinosaurs and stuff. on it kind of thing.

And the book starts off. You think, oh, this is the good. This dude is the main character. And then the dude who's the main character gets him killed at like halfway through it. You're like, hold, boiler. And it just goes, well, the book was written in the 60s. It's why I didn't read it yet.

If you could remember the name, I'd look at, I'd add it to my good reads. It sounds like you're a man that doesn't use good reads and probably is firmly against it. Don't know what good reads are. Okay. I do you, it's a, it's a, it's a digital archive of books that you've read. So you can literally just create an account and archive and rate and save any books you've ever read. So if you, some people don't rate, I like to rate the books. Some people just do it to keep a book, you know, to book keep their book reading.

But it's actually someone like you that's read thousands of books. It's, I don't know, it's kind of cool to, I like, I'm a big log guy. I like logging and stuff I've done and being able to like look at good reads and be like, oh, cool. I've read like 600 books and my goal was to read 1,000 before I die. Jeff wants to listen to 600 albums, 6,000 albums, whatever it was, how many? 1000, 1,000. Yeah, so I want to read 1,000 books and I'm like 4 or 500 shy. So that's my goal in life.

And good reads will help me get there. But yeah, that's good stuff. Like what I like to do is going to secondhand stores and bookstores. There's a good one just by my brother's place. and I'll just look on the shelves and I'll just pick three, four books at random in the sci-fi section, the Western section, whatever, right?

And just read them, like, cool, the $2 a pop. If they're good, I'll keep them. If they're not, whatever, right? Yeah. You don't put them in, you know, as long as you're not literally in the journals, right? That was something I did especially.

Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. And then that was like a big thing when I was doing a bunch of army stuff is that I would just buy a bunch of random books before going to the field for a month. And I don't care. It cost me two bucks.

If the book gets dropped into mud, it gets dropped in the mud, it gets dropped in mud, whatever. And that's kind of how it started by just reading all these random books and going down the rabbit hole of like what's out there kind of thing. Two book follow-ups. I know we probably, we probably shouldn't because we've been going down books for the last 20 minutes. but just a I completely forget what they are now. Fuck.

Oh, do you, do you reread many books? Or are you just a one and done? No, there's a few that I reread. One of my favorite ones to read. Actually,

I just reread it. It's here on my desk. It's called Team Yankee. So Team Yankee, that is based off of a trillet off of basic books called World War III, based in the 80s. The Soviets have attacked Western Europe

and it goes through the 14-day events of that and Team Yankee dives into the... Oh, it's called... He's a combat team commander that goes through the tank battles and the infantry battles, things like that, really well in depth. And it's kind of...

You really appreciate it once you have some kind of military knowledge being like this book is very accurate to how all the dirty deeds are done very very well done book i think so i reread that every couple of years once i learn more and more and get my knowledge more up on the military side of the house all right like the first time i read it i was like oh this is pretty cool and now i read in them like i understand where this comes from and that's insane last last last last last last book question and then we'll we'll get off this horse um so you've basically said you work 12 hour days do you just where do you find time to read right now and it doesn't seem like you're an audiobook guy so i'm curious of how you're actively still consuming with your current schedule

oh it's usually once like uh after breakfast when i'm reading my uh i'll drink my coffee i'll read a couple pages here or there or if i am waiting for machinery x y and z i'll read my book right some people scroll on their phones. If I have Wi-Fi dies 50 feet from the house, so if I'm in the pasture or into field or whatever, I'll just read my book. Oh, and then you say you're out in this, you refer to yourself as a hick a few times,

so you are in the sticks you don't have, there's not actual cell phone data or a data signal. Once you, like, there's, it's spotty, right? Right now in the house, I probably have two bars or whatever. Once I get to the back of the yard, it's no service. Gotcha. All right.

I think that's not Abraham Lincoln did. Read the field. Well, let me just play out if I remember. Well, yeah. Elementary school studies. Probably because his Wi-Fi didn't work once he got far enough. That's right.

That's right. Jeff. Well, yeah. Well, yeah. Let's see. Games. Well, let's hear about the chickens or ducks. It seems like you got both.

What's your opinion on either? I don't have any ducks. I don't know. Someone said he's raising ducks. Maybe they're dumb and think. Yeah, every now that we get some shitty submissions. So no duck radio. I thought about ducks a few times.

Yeah, ducks would be fun. You mentioned your chickens a few times. So tell us about the chickens. Yeah, no chickens. I started them, I don't know, five years back or so, I started with chen chickens. Now I'm up to 30. It's been a journey. I had a few die, few lived.

I had a nasty coyote attack happened two weeks ago. I lost 12 chickens to the coyote. So that's sad. It's really sad because I lost some of my prize chickens to that little fucker. So it gets great. You know, you got to walk around the yard with a rifle now. So much fun. I love doing chores of the rifle.

That's a challenging. Chickens, chickens. When you say that you're prized chickens, is that prize just because you like them or do they produce eggs or, you know, what I guess what makes it a prize chicken? That's when I got them as, like I got some heritage breach one.

So like the Plymouth Rocks, they're zebra's types, so they're black and white kind of thing. My Americano that laid green eggs, those kind of chickens, right? Really good ones that Yodi took out quite a bit of chickens in a very short amount of time. so I just got some replacements right now.

So I'm back up to 30. They're beautiful. They're the easiest animals you ever want to do, right? Like mine roam the yard all day. And it's quite funny because we have quite a bit of bears in my area, like a lot of bears. It's insane. Bear population. Black bears or what kind of bears?

Black bears. The population has exploded in the last couple of years. and oftentimes I'll see a bear next to my chickens nothing's going off. It's so funny. Really? All right. Well, the black bear is very much a scavenger. They don't go actively to go kill.

They more like, oh, there's something here. We're going to eat it. But we're not going to go actively kill something. Versus where you have a grizzly that will kill something or a coyote that will just go in and his murder. things for just funties. Right? It's all different kind of animals we deal with.

But my chickens, they're great. They're really easy. I feed them. I water them. I house them. I love them. That makes sense. All right. Big Flo. They produce eggs that you eat. Say again? They produce eggs that you eat. You eat the eggs from the chickens?

Yeah. Yep. I eat them. I sell them as well for a bit of extra income. And usually the income. equals to about what I'm putting in for fee and my costs and kind of thing. I break in. It's probably a financial name for that, Jeff. That's a little more elaborate than breaking even. Side hustle.

No, there you go. That's, that works. I never got them to get rich, right? I got them just for fun. Well, I think we're good on Rushmore, you think, Jeff? I think we want to jump down to a, I think we want to jump to an affiliate. Do you have any affiliate reads you want to hit us with? Right above unpaid or underrated?

Well, sure. We've got, of course, our barbell rescue affiliate and Home GymCon. Keith, what's the story in Home JimCon tickets right now? I stayed a mind before the price goes up. Oh, no, that was a few days ago. That was, you guys missed the ship on that. I think, I think actually Tuesday might have been the day. So today's, yeah. I mean, I don't know what he upped them to, but he will up them strategic, you know, it's a, it's a long game. So, you know, you start out a year out and you have them at $40 for a four three-day pass or $100 for your VIP. The do the week of VIP is already going to be sold out. But the last VIP ticket, the last VIP ticket will probably be $200. And, you know, it's damn near going to be half of what you're going to pay in six months. So buy your tickets sooner than later. And does code unpaid to get you any kind of discount there?

Oh, yeah, 10%, I believe, possibly five. 10%. It is a rescue. Probably five, yes. As well. And code unpaid will get you a free account at Jim Radar. For Jim Radar to showcase your home gym. Oh, I got to write that one down.

I'm going to use that. That's a good. I'll probably forget, but that's a good one. All right. Big Florian, we're going to get into unpaid or underrated. It is a game we like to play here. I'm going to explain it to your friends and family listening. So we're going to give Big Flo here anywhere from four to eight topics, and he's going to give us his decision of he thinks the topic is unpaid or underrated. Underrated is pretty self-explanatory and unpaid and unpaid is, you know,

no one really likes to be unpaid. So negative. Big Florian, unpaid or underrated. Can I come back in like two minutes? Yeah, buddy. Jeff and I will carry in the conversation. We're good, buddy. Oh, good, sir.

He could have. All right, Jeff, two minutes. What is, what's going on? You're a father of multiple teenagers that are getting closer and closer to getting out of the house. Do you feel older each day with that? Or are you, how is that, you know, an adult as you watching your kids keep getting older and older? It is kind of surreal. I don't know that I necessarily feel older.

But, yeah, I mean, like, one that. drives now. Oh, that she can drive her sister to school, which is great for me. Yeah, it's weird. My wife and I had kids relatively early

compared to a lot of our peers, and so I still kind of always feel like the youngest person. You know, our neighbors are usually a little bit older than us. The kids, their friends' parents are usually a bit older than us. So,

I don't know, it keeps to be young, I guess. Nice. Nice. And then any chance you're just going to bite the bullet and get air conditioning for the garage gym, is that,

or is that not feasible because it's just too big of a bay. Like, is it a multiple bay, so you can't really segregate off the gym and just throw a, for the right, throw something in there? It's, it's probably feasible. The problem is, um, I doubt there's any insulation in the garage walls. Fair. There's definitely no insulation overhead.

You know, you could probably drop some big panther down overhead pretty easily, but like, getting into the walls. I, it's, it's, it's, you could get a mini split for it, but, um, I mean, that they would have to work so hard just to, yeah, it costs you an arm in a way. Yeah. No, that makes sense. That makes sense. If I was back.

All right, Big Florian. Unpaid or you're good, buddy. I don't bring too many beers. Unpaid or underrated. Late night walks and try to keep these. You got two or three minutes to elaborate on each, but no more. Underpaid. Right.

Late night walks are amazing. You all at 2, 3 a.m. Underrated. Be either in the bush or in the city. The city is a good time. You see a bunch of little fan, little zombies. So you're out for adventure. no it really is you just see the the creatures of the night that comes out and like it's a good time

it sounds like the path to run of our Canadian yeah or you just walk out in the middle of the bush and see all the stars and everything it's a lovely time you know I bet you have incredible sky out there I am I am a fan of the walks but I don't know I'm a big proponent of like that's what I want to consume my my audiobooks in my podcast it's like I, you know, was also, I don't live in the sticks. So me walking around my neighborhood, it's just fucking, just toxic noise from cars and people and shit. There's no, like, peace and quiet to walk around in my neighborhood. So to me, it's, it's double purpose.

It's enjoyable because I'm consuming more information, but I'm also just blocking out outside noise. But it sounds like you're living a place where you can kind of just enjoy the ambiance of being outside. I don't have that luxury. It is. And, like, when you walk around the pitch dark and everything and then, like, you get good a lot of times, and especially in the bush, where you hear a noise off in the distance, or X, Y, and Z, you kind of know what's going on, or you see, or you just sit in one place, and you can see the beautiful deers and the bucks walk past and everything. If you get lucky, you can see the moose, right? Beautiful experience, right?

That's why I can never live in a city again. Makes sense. All right. Number two here. Unpaid or underrated, soldier of the year awards. How much stock would you put in one of those? That's underpaid. Oh, fuck me.

That's a story. So the year I won. It was a 60 second story. Yeah, go ahead. The year I won the soldier of the year for the battalion. I was in Christmas, so we do at Christmas dinner. Christmas dinner for the Army is that it's a tradition that dates back,

way back to, I don't even know, 1914 may pass that because we serve the leadership 365 days a year. And for one day a year, the leadership serves us. So we sit at these fancy tables where they serve us

really good turkey dinner. alcohol as much as you want all that kind of stuff, right? So I was a young soldier. I was probably 20 or so. And the table I'll sit at, it was the one lady was pregnant.

The other guy didn't drink. The other guy didn't drink. I don't know about the other one. But there was six of us. I was the only one. I was young. 30 second shot clock. fed me like all the liquor you can imagine right i was black oh drunk okay by the time the awards came

and we're sitting there and the thought that the colonel there is listing off all this this person did x y and z you're listing off all the achievements of this individual and i'm sitting there and i'm sitting there i'm like uh-huh uh-huh i did that i did that i did that i didn't include in i won this award right that is actually Because the whole time I'm thinking, oh, I was on course with these people. They probably did it, but I wasn't, I was this absolutely blacker. And as soon as I said my name, I'm sitting there all confused. Buddy beside punches me in the stomach real hard and be like, motherfucker, that's you. And I'm like, oh, shit, that is me.

And so I got up. Oh, because you were sitting there for like several seconds after they called your name, just not acknowledging it. Yeah. Yeah. Like an asshole. And as I stood up with such force, the chair I'm sitting and flies back like 10 feet or whatever. And I can barely.

Like I can barely be straight and I'm walking. Oh, you had to go give an acceptance speech or do you just kind of smile and shake their hands and go away? It's basically go get your word kind of thing. Okay, good. You didn't have to get up there and give some drunk speech. That'd be fucking. You can just see on the head table with the regimental sergeant major, the colonel, everyone, and just like head just drops

because this is the guy that won this award. The drunkest one there for some reason. So I get this award. You can see the picture of my Facebook where I'm like my eyes are half closed. I'm cocked eyed getting this award being like sick. Like all confusing. Have it easy even back then. Yeah.

So like I was very happy to get that award because it was very amazing that we have. that accomplishment and seeing that like I worked very hard that year. I did a lot of things and that did lead me into getting my promotion

and everything. Oh yeah. So it's good for the resume. It was very well done. So I think it's a very good award and everything. Everything already said before it's underpaid because

underrated. Underrated. Underrated's good. Yeah, underrated. So my bad. You're good. But it's very good and everything. I think I think Jeff's got two more for you, and we can start rounding this out.

Beauty. Well, you told us earlier you could be wrapped, but unpaid or underrated stiff knee sleeves. So my two cents, they're 100% underrated. They're whatever, right? The thing with stiff knee sleeves is that, what's the wording I want to use? I never use stiff knee sleeves. but I don't really like that all the culture it has become around powerlifting. You need the stiffest sleeve to exist.

Where how people believe that, oh, my squat is shit. I'm going to get the stiffest knee sleeve because that's magic going to add 10, 20 kilos to my squat, which it's not going to. You need to work on your squat and everything. That's my two cents about stiff and these sleeves. If you start with soft sleeves, because I know plenty of guys who do stall sleeves and training, and they compete in stiff knee sleeves, and it works very well for them. Those are the people I don't have a problem with.

The people have the problem with is the culture where it's like if you do not have stiff knee sleeves, you're not going to succeed, where it seems like how that progressed in the last maybe two, three years especially while you went, the ins are, what they call, ins are ingrote. I think, believe they're called. The really stupid, stiff ones. Or the Titan, what's the Titan ones called? That's okay.

Yeah, I think A7 came out with the Rigor Mortis or something, too, is another one. Yeah, the Rigger Moritz is that's A7. Yeah, it reminds me of like a golfer. It was a shit golfer. And he said, not just by a new driver. I think you meant unpaid then overall, because you said underrated, which is good.

You meant unpaid. You don't like them, correct? Yeah, I got, like Unpaid. I don't like them because the culture around them seems like, oh, I have a shitty squat. I'm just going to put them on and fix my squat. Yeah, actually.

The way I like them is if you were good at squatting and you're going to use, like, same thing with wraps. You can't just put on wraps and expect 100 pounds on your squad. You have to learn how to sit into the squad of wraps, how to enjoy the, enjoy the pain the wraps, right? So yeah, go get stiff knee sleeves. If you learn how to sit into them, how do they work for you? Then they're good.

But overall, I think they're underpaid. Yeah, underpaid there, you about. Yeah, I gotcha. Let me hit you with one more. Yep. All right, I get you one more. And I'm just curious on this one. I know you live in Manitoba, not Alberta,

but I think this is adjacent to what you do. So if you have an opinion on it, if you know, we can switch it up. But unpaid or underrated, the Calgary Stampede. I never been there. Never been? Okay. There's 12 hours from me. All I know, it's 13 bucks for a beer when you go are 14 bucks a beer.

That's all I know about it. So is that related to alcohol prices in America, are those unpaid or underrated? Alcohol prices in the U.S. are stupid cheap, man. Hold my life. If you're only basing that on South Dakota Like I Yes I got very drunk on $5 Drinks at fucking the zoo but that same drink is like $14 in Rochester

Yeah Okay maybe 10 at the cheapest Like you can't get a mixed drink less than 10 bucks And I didn't pay anywhere close to 10 bucks in South Dakota For us When you order to a bar it's average 7 bucks a beer right now That's average

So But again Like, South Dakota prices, like, it's extremely cheap down there. I think South Dakota is the anomaly. Yeah, $7 is a lot closer to what I would pay for a beer than, like, $4. Yeah. Especially, like, yeah. No, and especially, like, nicotine products down in the States, stupid cheap.

It's, it's amazing. Well, you did pass unpaid or underrated. Barely. There was touch and go there for a minute. We had to. We did have to consult some of the OG crew to see if we were going to let you pass, and they did get back with the thumbs up. So this is the time, you know, feel free to or not to.

Do you have any questions for Jeff and I? Oh, what was it? I thought about some earlier today. We'll go with a super easy ball right now. What's your thoughts on Lift Hard, Live Easy being switched to June? I'm excited. Personally, it's going to be my birthday weekend. So that'll be kind of cool.

I'm not like expecting. Like, so not cool in the sense that like I get anything out of it extra. It's just like, I don't know. It kills two birds with one's own because I can see a lot of my friends around my birthday and that'll just kind of be cool. I'll still have to throw my own birthday party here sometime the next week or the week before. But nonetheless,

uh, the biggest draw, obviously is for anyone that goes to home gym con now won't be fucked and having to do both of them a week apart because that was the worst thing ever. The past two years, my vacation time taking has really sucked because, I like to spread my vacation out and use it as like mental therapy to get the fuck away from like stress and shit. So having to take two week long vacations basically in a three week span doesn't do anything to help with my work fatigue and work drama. So having an actual six, seven, eight weeks between the two, I'm ecstatic about that concept.

I know there's some people it'll suck because depending on when their kids get in, when their kids get out of school. but like, I don't know. It's going to be better for a lot of us overall, though. So I'm very, very excited about it. Locked out. I liked it in July, but June will be fine. My wife's birthday is on the 19th. So I was worried.

I was going to conflict. But since it's earlier, I already, you know, did a little test balloon. I said, oh, gee, I can't go. You know, it's in June. I probably won't know to make it next year. She said, oh, why not? I said, well, you know, it's on the tent. She's like, oh, my birthday's not until next weekend.

So, you know, I got the. tacit approval that it doesn't conflict. So I think it'll work out. All right. Well, this has been a good one, boys. I've had fun. Florian, we appreciate you giving us your time. Florian, we're going to find you at.

Where are they going to find you out on Instagram again? And anywhere there is, before we go to that, I just want to thank you and Jeff and everything. This actually was a very well put together into an interesting situation and everything. I did not know what to expect. I really did. I got quite nervous because I didn't know what's going to go on. None of your books told you about this.

There was no books about podcast and, you know, about a subculture or subcult. Well, it's like, you know, like what are we, what's direction this is going to go into, right? I didn't know because I know some people put in some wacky fucking things. I mean, for reference, we didn't cover 80% of the shit that was, you know, submitted. So I do apologize for anyone listening that goes, oh, I submitted 20 things.

They didn't get touched on. Well, we kind of go where the podcast goes. And if the guest likes to chatter, then we can only ask so much stuff. So it kind of is what it is. This was a good. Like, it was a nice organic podcast. People learned a lot about your topic, your book favorites. And I don't know, I had a good time.

I think Jeff had a good time. I won't speak for him. I mean, he did text me that this was fucking, he was, he was mad and he's annoyed. and this side of everything, but we'll take that, well, we can handle that off air. I'm joking, I'm joking. And then, like, the one, the one thing I want to say is,

um, oh, what's that young and's name? I have to, I sent on apologies that I wanted to send out earlier. The kid? I didn't. What is the kid's name? Oh, who was there? Um, who won the plate. I always forget the kid's name. Colton.

Colton. Is it Colton? Right? No. Clayton. Clayton. Yes. The Youngen. I wanted to apologize to him and this seems, I think you listen to this, right? He follows his sleep to it sometimes, but I don't know. I'm assuming he listens to some extent. I'd feel bad because it's like we're probably not the podcast, a 12 year old just listen to all the time because we're a little R-rated some episodes.

But, you know. Yeah, but I just wanted to finish off with like, I wanted to send an apologies out to him. Because I know after my third squat, he came to like, can congratulate me on that and I was dead inside. and I kind of fucked him off completely. Like, I think he came up to me, like, great job, and I'm just, like, dead inside kind of thing because the squat took a lot out of me. I just want to send apologies out to him.

Sorry for that, and thank you for the, for the, congratulations. I didn't want to go up to him afterwards, I think he was at the zoo for a little bit, because I didn't know who was his parents, and I'm not going to ask them. I'm not going to talk to children without their parents present. That's just weird.

Right? So I figured this is a good platform. Send apologies to him. I don't think there's anyone else I have to apologize to. No, I think you're good, buddy. I don't know. I say a lot of weird shit when I'm drunk, so. That's all right.

Well, let's go ahead. Thank you to you guys. Our pleasure. Thank you to the crew for just everything and making me feel so welcome at Lyftard LivelyVeeZ3, LyftR, EVZ4. I know when I brought McKenzie down for Lyftar 4, she was nervous. She was like, who are these people X, Y, and Z? And then very quickly she found people to talk to and go along with that kind of thing.

And then the other thing is, I know I think Tanner and Tommy probably a thousand times on both weekends. But thanks to them for creating massonomics and creating this environment for us, it's beautiful. It really is. because like I would never met any of these people who was here kind of thing the crew is a beautiful, unique niche of the internet

that brings people together yes we are all coming from different backgrounds but we have the same similarities it's very beautiful I really do enjoy the crew I may not speak a lot on the Discord but it's appreciated right as well as like to

like, what's the full name? Mommy Snack Pack. The team that kind of, I kind of got bullied into joining Thursday night for it. Bullies, they're bullies now, huh? That's not funny.

They're good people. They asked me to join. I was like, I don't know. You definitely brought their dots up for sure. And then Gary was like, hey, you should go.

They saw a ringer. They're like, let's get this 1,700 pound total kid that's unaffiliated in our group. Yeah, I know. They're good. people. Yeah.

The snackback is good people. Oh, yeah. I'm glad. Is that a better myself? It is, and it's now I'm kind of part of this weird subcult of a cult kind of thing. That's got levels to it. All right. Well, I think we're good, Florian.

Where are they going to find yet, buddy? So on Instagram, that's Florian and German. Then on Discord, I believe it is. I think it's like flower, petal. Yeah, something flower. Yeah. Good deal. Yeah.

It's a weird thing. All right. Big Jeff, where you at? Dollars and Neddless on Instagram. Big Jeff for the Discord. Create wealth FP on YouTube. Nice. We have the Instagram, Unpaid and Underrated Podcast.

We've got the website, Unpaid Internpodcast.com. I'd love for you guys to go over to the Massonomics Discord and hang out in the U&U channel. Tell us what you like, what you don't like. Keep it yourself, I guess, if you don't like it. I'll take criticism. You guys are not afraid to criticize us, and we see it regularly. So, you know, if it's something valid,

we'll take it under consideration and everything else, just kind of noise. But I'm Keith Honeycutt 73 on Instagram. More importantly, go follow my orange jam than a wine cellar. Until the next time, I'll be up after my thing.

See you next Tuesday. Well, no one else is on here. I'll do a little pre-show venting. You probably won't make any clips, maybe some post-show, but all right, I got some venting to do about sheets, Google Sheets, that is. I use it at work religiously.

It's how we track all our install information, basically. So a lot of it is color coordinated, color coded. So I'll have individual cells that I'll turn green when that number is complete. And now, for some reason, Google Sheets likes to be fancy on the iPhone. And now when I tap on that cell, I can't change the color of it without like pushing four other buttons to get to the cell change color, whereas before I could just push it and it came up with the text, the part to edit the text in the cell and underneath of it or maybe above it, there would be, you know, bold, italics, fill color, and it could pick all that from like the same little

like half inch spot on the bottom of my screen. That doesn't exist anymore. You can still do it if you're doing an entire row or an entire column or if you're doing two individual cells. So if you drag two cells together, you can do it. But to do an individual cell color change, you cannot do it on the iPhone currently with an up-to-date sheets and an up-to-date iPhone. So super freaking annoying. At the end of the day, I blame Nate. He is the IT guy. So anything that's wrong, IT-wise in my life is Nate's fault.

I love him dearly. You know, it kind of goes hand in hand. He has a fourth kid and my Google sheets goes to shit. So I'm going to say there's some correlation. there for sure. That's what I think. It might not be true, but, hey, I don't always tell the truth. But I don't lie intentionally.

It's a fair assessment. All in all, life is good. Just giving the boys a few minutes to get here. Just chit-chatting by myself. Oh. All right, Discord. No one's talking. That's good.

I have that up. Got big Florian this week. should be good. Big Jeff handling some co-hosting for me, with me, for me? Helping me. With, for me, but he's doing it with me. I do love that we 86th doing the fucking episode numbers stupid and wrong. That's been such an advantage in life.

It saves me literally like four minutes a week now because I don't have to explain a joke that people didn't get to begin with half the time. And what are you drinking? What are you wearing? I think I'd rather just talk to the guest. This week we are going to ask Jeff what he's wearing by his request. I'm sorry, what he's drinking. Let's see.

Should be wrong with a minute. Big Nate, thank you for all you do. I'm excited to see you do some strong man. If it was a little closer, I'd put some head down, but we'll see. It would be dope. We do need to get a crew. Like a Northeast crew. I know that's kind of vague and big, but the boys in Boston are literally like six hours away.

So it's a little hard for me to get to. I don't know. I think you guys are less than six hours. So if it's four hours, I can say three hours, I would do it. Four hours is tough. I think you are closer to three hours, though. I don't know. We'll see.

Hong, Hong.