Unsubscribe Podcast - 149 - AI Is Racist & Indians Have No Rizz ft. SomeOrdinaryGamers

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Starting point is 00:00:32 Dude, this bussy was over. We haven't done the offenders in a while. I f***ing hate my own kind. At least you're not doing it to me. And we're golden. And we're golden. I don't know how you guys feel about this, but recently Sean and I haven't really had anything to watch. And we started watching Desperate Housewives.

Starting point is 00:00:51 Oh. Bro, you gotta cut the Netflix. Desperate Housewives, your immediate response. Bro, it's time. The irony of you being so desperate, you started watching Desperate Housewives, your immediate response, bro, it's time. The irony of you being so desperate, you started watching Desperate Housewives. Yeah. We had nothing to watch. I was like, wouldn't that sprays anatomy right now?

Starting point is 00:01:15 Me lucky charms. Because I'm very good at Irish accents. I don't believe you've ever heard an Irishman. Ever. I love I can do every accent but white people accents are the ones I'm like, how do they do that? Do the Indian accent real quick, bro. Do the Indian accent. Let me hear you here.

Starting point is 00:01:32 Do you do it first? Indian accent first? Oh, sir, you have to buy the Windows warranty on your computer. If you don't do it in 365 days, you will be hacked. You'll be hacked. Oh, you got to talk. See, my best part is getting a scam call and then responding to them as the other scammer.

Starting point is 00:01:48 Oh, hello. I'm like, you just called the other officer. You answer with an answer. It's just you scamming each other back and forth. I'm like, you called the other officer. Hello, Dinesh, we are right on the road. Dinesh, what are you doing? You know my number is here.

Starting point is 00:02:03 Dinesh, call me later. This is how this episode started wow unsubscribed podcast coming in hot Cody's like I'm white and uncomfortable this is a lot of brown on this table I like it I was just going to make a joke about how this is like a reverse oreo you stuck the brownest people in the middle

Starting point is 00:02:22 and then just kind of go out white from there credit on that side. How racist can I be on this podcast? You can get away with a lot of stuff. You got the passes. Yeah. We're good right now. Ready to pop that top?

Starting point is 00:02:34 Do we have pops to tops? Tops to pops? One. I almost called you Dinesh Jesus Christ. I was like, Dinesh needs one. Don't call him Dinesh. Moodleheart needs one, Jesus. Good old white claw?

Starting point is 00:02:51 Yes, we usually pop the top. I'm popping this one. Do you have an extra? You don't have to drink it. I'll drink all of them. Okay. We're just popping. I was going to say, you give me a raspberry.

Starting point is 00:02:59 Have I insulted your family? I've insulted my family. Well, you want black cherry? Isn't that any better? Yes, absolutely it's better. Should we swap it? I appreciate it. Dinesh loves the raspberry.

Starting point is 00:03:15 Here's the shirt for the episode. Dinesh loves the raspberry. One, two, three. Woo! Alright. Welcome to the Unsubscribed Podcast. I'm joined today by Eli DoubleFab, Brandon Herrera, who hates veterans, and Mr. Nudahar, some ordinary gamer, something like that.

Starting point is 00:03:36 And I'm Donut. And Donut Operator! Hi, hi, hi! Welcome! You're all already watching because we started very racist on this episode. They're like, oh, this is a good episode. I kind of looked halfway through that conversation and saw the red recording button. I'm like, all right, well, that's how we're just going in hard.

Starting point is 00:03:53 We're going in hard with that. I mean, you have to. You have to break the ice somehow. Brandon's still the bad guy in this entire episode. How could a Medal of Honor recipient hate veterans? I saw the fucking thumbnail you guys used for the one with veteran with a sign I'm like motherfucker I wasn't on that episode what the shit dude

Starting point is 00:04:13 I'm not even from this country and I was so offended when I saw that well you are from the twitter sphere though so you know poor brain you got to see the front lines warfare on twitter I get to god so you saw you got to see the the front uh front lines warfare on twitter i get to see the worst like humanity i get to see the worst of humanity every day when i sign on to that godforsaken app so which which is your uh where does your twitter

Starting point is 00:04:35 algorithm tint towards so there's like the duality of man it's either porn or snuff films bro i get fights snuff films and porn dude I get all of it every day. Dude, when I go into the bathroom, I sit down on the toilet. I open up that Twitter app. It's either porn or it's either somebody getting clocked in the head, dude. It's not even a choice in between. Titties! Death titties!

Starting point is 00:04:58 There's like out of my week. The hitting. Dude, like out of my week, there's like maybe one day where I'm like, oh, dude, cute cat photo. Awesome. I can start my day off successfully shit it's like that that meme i saw recently where it's like bro you woke up at six o'clock to go to your fucking nine to five job popped open zach bryan and did like fucking down two red bulls did you even try to have a good day no but here it begins. It's like your dopamine

Starting point is 00:05:25 is so blown out because like you were saying, it's like titties, murder, titties, murder. This is disgusting. My brain doesn't know what to do right now. Why is the algorithm feeding me this? Because you keep scrolling it.

Starting point is 00:05:41 Because you keep scrolling through. You're like, man, maybe it'll get better at some point. Or you're like, maybe I like the titties in Murder, Dude. Maybe that's what it's all about. I just like the greater algorithm. That is fucking gladiator mode. To a T. It is blaming the algorithm for your own. Your own porn.

Starting point is 00:05:57 Eli's over here. Why is all I see gay porn? This is weird. I hate this stuff. Babe, check this one out. Well, that's like the algorithm tell, right? When you this one out well that's like that's like that's like the like that's like the algorithm tell right like when you're like an engineer somebody's like man why is the algorithm keep feeding me i'm like bro what's the last 10 things you watched gay porn it's probably gonna give you the 11 videos i'm just saying but there's no bias it's what it's how it that's what that's how they keep you stuck in right like that's the whole algorithm stuff

Starting point is 00:06:23 they keep you constantly scouring the feed. Which is kind of fucking wild, because, like, you see these stories of, like, where, you know, dads get mad because they're serving ads to, like, his teenage daughter for prenatal vitamins and things like that. And he's like, dude, what the fuck? What message are you trying to send? And realize, like, the algorithm knew your daughter was pregnant before you did. Yeah. It's fucking wild. Like, that's the world we live in that's when you give like google way too much power into like looking into your phone

Starting point is 00:06:50 and like personal life and everything dude you realize that we're all just ones and zeros at the end of the day like we don't like it like you don't like being psychoanalyzed by a real person much less a computer dude you know the wildest shit is like i make so many videos about like cyber security like protecting your information like what do you got to hide? I'm like, dude, I'm going to bring the question. Do you want some random guy to walk into your house and like watch what you do every day? You know, like, no, just think about it. You come home from work. You got a shitty day streaming.

Starting point is 00:07:16 You're already like fucking, you know, social batteries checked out. You come home at five o'clock. You sign off to go. You sit in your living room. There's an asshole looking at every single thing you did. Come on now. And that's the thing. I'm like, it's not that I have nothing to hide.

Starting point is 00:07:29 It's just like it's creepy, you know? Like it's weird. It's not like you have a lot of illegal money and weapons like the rest of us. You really do have nothing to hide. No, no. I'm Canadian. I have more illegal weapons. Oh, that's good.

Starting point is 00:07:41 Actually, I didn't think about it from that perspective. But you guys are at least licensed to own your stuff. I pretty much sit unlicensed in my house, dude. Come on. Space, space's good. Actually, I didn't think about it from that perspective. But you guys are at least licensed to own your stuff. I pretty much sit unlicensed in my house, dude. Come on. Space, space, space, space, space, space. This episode name is just based. Mudahar's based as fuck. He's like, no, no, no, no.

Starting point is 00:07:56 Dude, I don't give a shit if the cops raid my house. Like, legit, I got, like, a license for everything. If I get fucking raided, like, what's going to happen? A day out of my life is gone. You kick down my door. But at least I get to laugh at the RCMP and all the cops. And I'm like, at least I was licensed. And you get to make fucking $10,000 off the video you make about it.

Starting point is 00:08:14 100%. That's the best part. It's like, if I get raided by the cops as a YouTuber, I'm like, shit. That's just a payday right there. Hell yeah. A payday, bro. Have you been swatted yet? No, not, like, at my house or anything i had like

Starting point is 00:08:26 cops like uh i had a system where like usually for streams you would go to like cops beforehand and like tell them like yeah i do video stuff and like you might get a call so what ended up happening was like anytime there would be a swatting they would call my phone in the middle of a stream or anything and i'd be like i'm streaming somebody's fucking with you my house is not a hostage situation. And that's happened to you before? Yeah, it's happened before around in places because when I did deep web browsing and stuff,

Starting point is 00:08:52 my actual address was leaked on the dark web. So from time to time, they would call up the address and they would send the SWAT teams out. And that's why you need Aura. No, I'm sorry. Which ad break do we have i think it's aura do we actually have aura this time yes oh my god we do yes aura g-van you're welcome aura if there's a tushy ad right now g-van i'm fucking

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Starting point is 00:10:06 Featuring 500 different new games and progressive jackpots waiting to be won. Head over to www.mybookie.ag and use code UNSUB and save some money right now. Jimmy just inserts a tissue, I'm like. What the fuck, Gavin? We walked through this. No, bro, the worst part about like the swatting stuff is like some of the addresses are so old.

Starting point is 00:10:33 They're from like previous residences. I'm like, dude, the last thing I want is some like random person to get like a fucking cop kicking down their door. And it's not me, you know, because it's? I'd kind of prefer that. You know, it's the body count of a no-knock raid at a rando's house is much lower than mine. Dude, I got swatted on Christmas last year. I've been swatted five times now. And I got swatted on Christmas. And they called me and they're like, are you holding your family hostage? I'm like, it's a swatting. And the cops said, what's swatting? Like, are you holding your family hostage? I'm like, it's a swatting. And the cops said, what's swatting?

Starting point is 00:11:07 Like, are you fucking serious, dude? Not a single cop knew what the fuck a swatting was? There was like one young cop that probably told them all. That's why they didn't kick in my door. I wasn't even at home. I was with my family in South Carolina. Well, it's like we were talking about on the drive, too. I can say it.

Starting point is 00:11:27 Beat that out just in case. We blurred it during the Zach episode. Probably a good idea to blur it now. Bleep it again, G-Man. But driving there, we were talking about cybersecurity because that's what you went to school for. You're like, Homeboy's very smart. You do actually business business,

Starting point is 00:11:43 and then YouTube is a secondary thing. YouTube is always like the secondary side gig. Because YouTube is a fleeting business to be in. I say that like we're all – I say that like with a sense of fear, but it's like I'm mostly like in stability land. You know, like I grew up immigrant family, so it's like when the money comes in, it's like you want to invest that wisely and then you can live comfortably but yeah you know like unlike a lot of the other

Starting point is 00:12:10 streamer crowd i guess i was talking with you guys about i'm like yes i worked a previous job career and then you all how because you do your own vpns you do your own vpn like you build everything from the ground up you're like oh you can do it yourself. It's really easy. I'm like, well, easy for you. And you're like, yeah, that's true.

Starting point is 00:12:29 I went to college. It's like me talking to you guys about building AK. It's like, no, seriously, like legitimately, like you, you never fucking pressed a hot rivet before.

Starting point is 00:12:36 Like, come on, come on. No, we haven't. Nobody. Yeah. It's like,

Starting point is 00:12:41 you know, the computer stuff, it's like making a video on like, you know, virtual machines or like, you know, your own VPNs or like DNS, DNS servers or something to, like, give you the edge. I understand it's not for everyone. That's why, like, any time I make a video like that, I make it for, like, the most unintelligible person watching, not out of, like, any superiority.

Starting point is 00:12:57 It's, like, literally that's what it's made for. Like, if you're making a video for, like, if you're teaching somebody how to make an AK and they already know how to make an ak what's the point of that video right like they already know but if you're teaching somebody that doesn't know from scratch that's probably the best thing you can do in terms of like an educational video right like teach somebody that has no idea they walk in and they start playing around experimenting and then they become like there's people that watched me like two years ago when i started doing this kind of stuff and they're like yeah i'm a cybersec major now and i'm like dude congratulations awesome you like got inspired great that's awesome to see and you're one of the first ones I think we've had where you're like YouTube you're pretty decently sized

Starting point is 00:13:33 on YouTube and still when you were talking about your other jobs you're still working nine to fives or more on your other businesses and YouTube is a secondary that's how we started I was like yo okay you're actually doing that as your day-to-day he's like yeah no youtube's just secondary side quest yeah well to add to that you're the first youtuber i think i've ever met in person that i didn't previously know that has uh echoed the same psychology i've always had about it where it's like this is 15 minutes of fame this could disappear at any moment yeah i mean we all fall off right like if i look at like even my numbers or anybody's numbers, it's like, you know, pre-COVID like higher.

Starting point is 00:14:09 Then you start dwindling off and it's like there's no shame in that. That's how it works. Nobody's a Simpsons, right? But like you could be making a lot of money and be like an athlete and burn it all and like be at the same square one you were before. Or like take some of that and like you know build a platform build like a safety safety like you know vest or whatever and just roll with that and then everything else later on becomes like a fun you know adventure for you right you're not making content for the sake of it you're making it because you actually enjoy the topic or what you want to make versus yeah

Starting point is 00:14:39 it's a livelihood which i and that's why i love like all the guys down here it's one of my favorite things about y'all is it's like, we got money. What do we do? Well, naturally the normal thing, spend it on another business that we can build more money and hire more people.

Starting point is 00:14:54 Everyone's the same. It's like, let's acquire a business. We're all filthy capitalists. Pieces of shit at the end of the day. Look at us profiteering off of the labor. Giving people jobs. Pieces of shit at the end of the day. Look at us profiteering off of the labor. Giving people jobs. Pieces of shit.

Starting point is 00:15:07 Building businesses. Employing people. Sorry we worked really fucking hard and we made money. It's terrible. Brandon, can we talk about who's watching in the live audience? Sure, yeah. For the first time, I have my parents that are here watching this. I've made jokes in the past.

Starting point is 00:15:24 I'm like, it's really uncomfortable for me to record an unsub episode now because I know my parents watch every episode now. Come on real quick and do a quick feature with the parents. You're more than one. Come on. Come on down. This is why I don't say fuck as much as I used to. My mom. Brandon's mom looks like she's

Starting point is 00:15:45 five years younger this is why I don't bring her on camera these are my young kids I know the comments right now why do you think I don't bring them around it's the running joke now because it's been a running joke for a few years

Starting point is 00:16:06 is that I call Cody's mom, mom, and then vice versa. So we're just, you know, brothers from another mother, literally. It's true. Yeah. Your dad looks hella Asian, by the way. Dude, it's funny. We've talked about that for years. I got the whole time.

Starting point is 00:16:20 Like, I walked out, I was like, huh, looks like one of mine. Are you Eli's dad too? I just need him to say the thing. I am a Japanese man. I'm a Japanese man. Definitely Filipino. Does someone want to tell us like that happened back then? Say hi.

Starting point is 00:16:44 What's up? What's up? We're proud of the boys. Brandon is crazy. How is having a potential congressman's son that also shitposts on the internet? Ashamed former congressional

Starting point is 00:16:59 candidate. He hates veterans, by the way. I just want you guys to know that. It's so crazy like and when coming to the show it's like real i'm sitting next to like somebody that can be in the u.s like political system it's like bro youtube's a wild business to be in man it's only gonna get weirder i i was i was just kind of the little bit that broke the glass it's gonna get fucking weird in the next five years i promise you that so weird how was it like when he started blowing up like was it a hey this is fucking what our kiddos how many people know his name now and then you see those

Starting point is 00:17:31 numbers behind it was it a like taking a back at first i remember when youtube was foo-foo and that wasn't a real world business but that's still happening it's kind of you know brandon was Brandon. He's always been Brandon. The way he does everything, cuts up, shoots stuff, blows stuff up. You know, that's what he did his whole life. So it was getting a little weird when he was going to hotels with us to Disney World. And people were like, oh, oh. Can I get a picture?

Starting point is 00:17:58 Can I get a selfie? And all that stuff. It was kind of weird. Like in Disney. That's when reality kicks in when people stop you in Disney or Hard Rock Hotel. And they're like, ah, ah, ah. So that was kind of weird like that's when reality kicks in when people stop you in disney or hard rock hotel and they're like so that was kind of cool but then it happens more and more it's crazy he kept us on our toes he's no one you piece of shit you're no one Imagine raising the AK Jesus. You are way too religious to make that joke. The AK Jesus, man.

Starting point is 00:18:33 Christ alive. Was he virgin birth? Praise the God. Why speak a foreign language? They're like, Eli made that joke. That was Eli's sacrilege. They're like, that was Eli's sacrilege. No, I love my parents.

Starting point is 00:18:53 You guys, thank you so much for coming out and visiting us. We love you. There's no way you guys can make a shirt that says AK Jesus on it now. Oh, you'll be shocked. Our photo. You guys have that? Oh, I have that. Oh, God'd be shocked. You guys have that? Oh, I have that. Oh, God.

Starting point is 00:19:07 God. It won't matter. My political career will be over by the time that this comes out. Back in the day when we first moved here, Eli was like, I got a great idea for a photo shoot. We went over to Matt Best's house. It's a viral photo. It's been posted everywhere. It's actually one of my favorite pictures of our group.

Starting point is 00:19:21 Truly, it is. It's very controversial. I literally, I had another fellow congressional candidate reach out to me. He was a very very nice man. I really do like him a lot. And he showed the photo to me.

Starting point is 00:19:35 So he's very religious. Very religious. He's like, so what's this all about? I'm kind of autistic so like nothing, normal shit doesn't register. I'm like, oh, that's just a good photo. It's a hilarious picture. We weren't hating on religion.

Starting point is 00:19:51 No, I was like, Brandon, here, wrap this. Because that's always been like an internet moniker. People are like, oh, he's just AK Jesus because I always wear flip-flops and had long hair and I guess slightly brown. There are very few things that you can be certain of in life. But you can always be sure the sun will rise each morning.

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Starting point is 00:20:33 fucking brilliant, dude. It's a good photo. He's walking on water. He's got the AK. He's saving. That was Matt Best's I think throw rug over his couch that I'm wearing

Starting point is 00:20:49 yeah it was because we walked out I was like Gallagher okay dude like I was telling Gallagher what I wanted and then your response was like I have no idea what this is going to turn out I was like gotcha and we barely knew each other at the time like man I got a lot of faith in you right now because also when I was

Starting point is 00:21:04 wearing that I'm like bro man, I got a lot of faith in you right now. Because also when I was wearing that, I'm like, bro, I go commando. So if you need me to ditch these fucking pants, this is going to get fucking weird fast. Real quick. And then Gallagher did the actual like Photoshop of it. It turned out fucking immaculate. He's like, is that good? I'm like, it's fucking everything I ever wanted. And it was fine until your campaign started.

Starting point is 00:21:25 That's when it became unfine? That's the thing? From everything we've done together, that's the thing that was unfine? I haven't seen that in a mailer yet. You hate veterans, not us. Eli, have you seen the new mailer? No.

Starting point is 00:21:39 What? There's a new mailer? That his opponent sent out? There's like a Hispanic PAC or whatever that's like, we want Hispanic leadership, so fuck this Herrera guy. Wait, they're shitting on Brandon Herrera mocking the veterans? That is so fucked up, man.

Starting point is 00:21:54 I mean, I'm looking at this mail. Welcome to politics. We just left a side-speaking engagement for veterans. I'm going to read you guys the quote. I think about often putting a gun in my mouth. So basically, I'm an honorary veteran. Well, when you say it like that, I mean, hell.

Starting point is 00:22:13 And the fucked up part of it, I'm like, congratulations. Unsubs in the news. What was fucked up is I was actually just talking of one of my biggest detractors, apparently. And I mentioned that because he had mentioned he's like, so what do you have to say about this? I'm like, yeah, I was joking on a podcast that, by the way, I partially own. You know, it's not like a hot, like a hot mic moments. Like I was joking about a joke that I didn't make because I said it was too far around

Starting point is 00:22:43 my veteran friends who said I should have said it because I I donated my time at SHOT Show to speak at a veteran prevention conference it's like this is completely fucking oh we showed up to this there was nothing like we wanted to do it for Sarah and Tim and everyone they were like hey do you want to do this and that was people great yeah we love them and then they just asked us like 100 100 we're gonna do this no questions asked even if it is 10 in the morning at shot show which is a very hard time to wake up at shot show time's fucking different yeah 10 a.m you're like but no we were all happy to do it we were all happy to be a part of that panel awesome and you cry like we complimented shit out of you i was like even i once you left i, man, he did a fucking really good.

Starting point is 00:23:25 Tim leaned over. He's like, fucking Brandon killed it. It's like, yes, that was perfectly done. Cody, like everyone just covered down, did an amazing job. We had laughs. We had a good time. And then afterwards we left the podcast and had a good time. And at the end of a two hour podcast, I make a joke about a joke.

Starting point is 00:23:42 I didn't say people clip seven seconds and it's like, well, I can't fucking believe it's like, oh, God, that's like social media shit in general. Right. It's like pretty much clip you like you could you could be speaking for like two hours. I'm like, bro, you say something fucked up in five seconds. That's what's going to be on the Internet. It's just going to be floating around. Well, your content watching going back to kind kind of algorithm but the ai based stuff on gemini and watching how it was based so i didn't know it was going off of reddit and then once you said that i was like this makes so much fucking sense because it was sourcing reddit as one of

Starting point is 00:24:16 the well that's where they got the biggest deal from right like gemini made like the i think it was like a 70 million dollar deal with like google, like Reddit and Google are now buddy, buddy. And they're every time you make a fucking post. Gemini is Google based, right? Gemini is the no white people thing. Yeah. The Google Gemini AI where there was like, um, draw me a Nazi. And then it would make like, you know, me wearing the swastika. You know, I would have, well, to be fair,

Starting point is 00:24:39 you wearing the swastika would mean something very different historically. No, no. I'm talking about like a swastika like rotated a little bit 45 degrees. With arrows pointing up. Yeah, that's where it gets fucked up. The windmill of friendship. Yeah, the windmill of friendship goes into like hatred real fucking quick. I was cracking up.

Starting point is 00:24:57 She was like, show me a Viking. It's like four black Vikings. And you're just like, just gone. Just questioning. Like, look, I get it. I get the understanding of of like so the way that the ai works it's like they probably added like a diversity clause to it or something right because it's like when you're generating like make an image in time square there's probably different races everywhere in time square you take a photo of time square right now you're gonna find a lots of me's and you's and everyone right but there's a big

Starting point is 00:25:23 difference between draw me an image of times square in 2024 and the vikings from back in the olden days because i literally have to like like i went like it's a shame that i have to go to google and like look up the vikings i'm like boys they're from like modern day denmark okay last i checked my people were not piloting ships to that north like literally that's too fucking cold for us, okay? I don't care how much they like piracy. We don't. That's too cold for us.

Starting point is 00:25:54 You're becoming one of the favorite guests right now. I wasn't prepared for that. We were one of the people behind the compass and sundial, so we're like, go south. That's warmer, you know? Works for us uh it was if you haven't read it made a lot of sense so the second you says like it's based it's using reddit as it's like learning algorithm you're like oh this makes way more sense

Starting point is 00:26:18 when it kicks back certain stuff because you're like uh what's like is brock obama black and it'd be like yes and this and then you ask was it george washington or who well what's like is barack obama black and it'd be like yes and this and then you ask was it george washington or who well it's like is george washington white it's like well george washington had like a weird biracial angle and then it started like sourcing like his kids and i was like maybe like adopted yeah like as adopted kid maybe they might have but i'm like last i checked like the founding fathers like they were pretty white and yeah wasn't until 300 years they were pretty white. Pretty white. Wasn't until 300 years, they were

Starting point is 00:26:48 like, alright, we can add another one. Thomas Jefferson. His bloodline gets a little muddy. Crossing the Delaware with Mexican. That's a completely different photo. I really want to see the AI generated. George Washington

Starting point is 00:27:03 crossing the Rio Grande. We're going to get to the border, boys. And that's like the whole AI generation, right? It's like it just generates like all the diverse like races for like, and that's where like, you know, when you're pro, like what people don't get about like the AI stuff is it's not like, you know, AI from like a sci-fi show. It's like you feed it a bunch of data and you get a bunch of programmers that write how that

Starting point is 00:27:29 data is supposed to be processed if you add like those diversity clauses you're gonna have funny jokes like that right and i understand why like google turns it off and they're like okay let's cook this for another six months until we get rid of some of the stupidest shit and then we can come back because the first one you brought up it was back in what 2015-16 the ai in uh image generation where it was like glumping photos together of like all the so the google photos and for people who need to know this it's like this is how wild it was if you were like you know an african-american like couple right and you took a photo of yourself and you're like damn this is really fucking cute you upload it to google photos there could be a chance like years later took a photo of yourself and you're like, damn, this is really fucking cute. You upload it to Google Photos. There could be a chance, like years later, you

Starting point is 00:28:07 open up that app and it's like, oh shit, when did I go see Gorillas of the Zoo? That's when you find out it's just me. It would tag you as Gorillas. Yeah, so 2016? Oh my god. So it was just a black community.

Starting point is 00:28:24 Google was like, got it. Here, you didn't know this. No, I didn't know. So it was just a black community. And Google was like, got it. Here, you're in this sector of photos now. And they're like, yo, yo, yo, what the fuck is going on? So that's why they turned off AI-based image. Yeah, that's how the AI is. It was like human, gorilla. And if I took a photo, it's like call center. It would start doing that.

Starting point is 00:28:43 It's like, that's how it picked you. How I know Cody's cool. You've done some stuff with Internet Historian, right? Uh call center. Like, it would start doing that. You know, it's like, that's how it picked you. How I know Cody's doing it. Because you've done some stuff with, like, Internet Historian, right? Uh-huh. It was his video about Tay. Like, the AI Microsoft. I think it was Tay. The AI.

Starting point is 00:28:52 Yeah, the way it went, like, crazy in 24 hours. Went from, like, wholesome posting to, like. Because, like, 4chan got a hold of it. And then all of a sudden, it was just, oh, my God. That was crazy. Because what would happen is, it was like, oh, how's the weather? Like, at 8 a.m. And then, like, literally 24 hours later, it's like oh how's the weather like at 8 a.m and then

Starting point is 00:29:05 like literally 24 hours later it's like so about that fourth reich boys let's get that fucking going how's the weather scratch that i got more important things to worry about it's like wow it's beautiful to see technology advancing in this way how are you if you had five ovens in four years and you had to bake six million cookies? It's like, holy shit! Take it! Take it! It's like Microsoft

Starting point is 00:29:33 jumps in and it's like, alright, we probably and it's one of those things where it's like, I bet it's like a wholesome group of engineers. It's like, I bet you nothing can go wrong. They high-fived afterwards like, let's do it! This is a group of engineers you know there were like half of them that are like bro this is gonna go fucking off the rails yeah I mean it's gonna get fucking wild maybe that's what they did with the Google

Starting point is 00:29:57 stuff that like a few guys were like this is gonna be fucking me material in the next 24 hours looks and then they got the call from head office or like alright you got to cut this shit off. Fun times over, boys. Pull the plug. Pull the fucking plug right now. Pull the plug. And that was the end of it.

Starting point is 00:30:11 No, it wasn't. Dude, I refuse to believe there's anybody working at these companies. Like, bro, if I was working at Google, you know who I'd hire? I'd hire, like, the quality assurance check for, like, the most obscene material. I'd have somebody working prompts every day. I'm like, I want you to type in the most obscene material. I'd have somebody working prompts every day. I'm like, I want you to type in the most obscenely racist shit and see if like our thing makes that.

Starting point is 00:30:31 So we don't look bad in front of the public. So to our audience, you have a job. That's what we're hiring. No, no, for that. Oh,

Starting point is 00:30:40 okay. Yeah. No, there's a job opening for you. I've seen the way you guys get around the censors. It's like, no, I finally know how to become a contractor now. Alright, type in

Starting point is 00:30:51 the most obscenely racist shit and I'm like, mmm. It's like, I am ready for this. Cody's floating already. He's ascending to the next plane of employment. I know what to do when YouTube shits me out.

Starting point is 00:31:07 Okay. I can make a lot of money doing this. N1. It's like you open a nice bottle of wine. It's like, all right, it's time to start the evening. I just need to relax, babe. Leave me alone. Someone bring me down.

Starting point is 00:31:26 Licking them fingertips. Dude, but you know what? So it's so wild. It's like there's going to be, once this stuff goes like super open source and everyone gets their hands on the code, could you just imagine like actual, like really fucked up people getting their hands on it

Starting point is 00:31:40 and like using it to like the worst advantage? Like I am, it's going to be a few years before worst advantage like i i am it's gonna be a few years before it happens but i think it's gonna get like way worse like we're memeing about it right now but i think there's gonna be like genuinely fucked up dudes that are gonna be generating some really fucked up shit or through because it's like i don't know if you guys saw like the the new sora open ai stuff like those really good videos. Yeah. The dogs in snow. That was literally the one I used earlier. Yeah. I just pictured the beginning of T2.

Starting point is 00:32:10 It's the robots walking and they're just yelling the N-word. The robots are just killing people yelling the N-word. You're like, AI, jump over. It's like, this is all happening. Oh, God. But nobody knows about it because all of the sensors for all news outlets have the N-word blocked. So they're able to eliminate half the human population before anyone knows about it. These racist robots are killing everyone.

Starting point is 00:32:33 It's wild because there used to be this old game, like 2001 Metal Gear Solid 2, bro. That shit predicted the future. We live in AI feeds and algorithms. Like, dude, every time you open your your app it's like the this is the thing i don't open up news anymore because it's like every time i open it up it's like a curated feed so i always try to like open up 20 different sources to get like any like anytime a world event happens i'm like check every single search engine for everything different because like it's gonna differ drastically a fellow duck duck go user a fellow duck duck i, hey, man, one of my biggest things was DeepWire browsing.

Starting point is 00:33:07 You bet your ass I'm a DuckDuckGo kind of guy. Man, I didn't even think... Metal Gear Solid 2 was like forefront of like, hey, this is going to be an issue. Kojima was like, here you go. You have just touched his tism in a way that we can't put back in the box. Dude, leave it to like some Japanese game developer to like predict the fucking future

Starting point is 00:33:25 20 years in advance. This is in 2003. He said AI is going to be an issue. When it went off the rails in that, it starts speaking randomly through using other people. It has fucking face-generated AI. I forgot about that.

Starting point is 00:33:40 Remember the codec because it's the kernel's AI base? Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the second game, all of it is actual real- time, like human generated faces. So like even video and shit like that. And who is it? Thanks, Kojima.

Starting point is 00:33:50 Thank you, Kojima. What the fuck? I didn't even think about that. Dune, is it Frank Herbert? Frank Herbert. Yeah, yeah. He was predicting computers would take over all of basically all of everything in the 2000 years in the 1950s, 60s.

Starting point is 00:34:04 Yeah, yeah. 60s. I'll Yeah. 60s. I'll never doubt on this one. So they had the Butlerian G. We also just saw Dune two, like two days ago. Yeah. So in a time period there,

Starting point is 00:34:13 they wiped out all computers because AI started taking over. And so that's why in Dune, they have the guys that like, I don't know if you remember doing one where the guy, he rolls his eyes in the back of his head, the mentats, so they have human computers now because they cannot they just don't have computers in that

Starting point is 00:34:30 future. So they eliminated computers and just hired Asians. Basically. Advocuses and everything brother. Let's do it now. Reading the future. Ones and zeros? I got it. I love how hard you nerd out about

Starting point is 00:34:45 dune that is your tism on everything yes because you know you he was my translator in dune too i'm just kind of like cody what the fuck's happening he's like well all right so four thousand years before this the front row was like shh i was leaving over to brain i was like all right here's what's happening right now it was like laying out the history for was leaning over to Brandon. I was like, all right, here's what's happening right now. And I was like laying out the history for him. I knew that you were like kind of like self-conscious about like, I don't want to be that guy. I appreciated it because I didn't know what the fuck was happening half the time.

Starting point is 00:35:14 If you don't know Dune, the movies don't make fucking sense at all. It is a lot of lore. I read them when I was like 14 and I've reread them since then. So I'm like five. I've reread the Dune series like five times now yeah you get so that was the first movie i've seen you super hyped about like super happy like i got tickets me and brandon had a great conversation you're like yeah we were like okay cody's getting tickets and brandon's like okay like like 7 30 and you're like got it i got it for nine we're watching Tuna now. Cody's like, this is

Starting point is 00:35:45 my time. No one's switching how this plays out. I got my seats. I got my tickets. Because my girl still got a real job and everything and I'm just like, oh shit, I could probably get there at like 7.30. You're like, 9.15. Fuck you. On a three hour saga.

Starting point is 00:36:01 Dude, dude, dude. Still made it work. It was fun. That was a good night was good. No dresses a sandworm. He's crazy. Yeah Fuck the popcorn bucket. I was rolling around Would you like the black cherry? Huh? Would you like the black cherry? Oh, absolutely. Hey, no matter your relationship status or your thoughts on Valentine's Day,

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Starting point is 00:37:39 for the third time in the podcast history. He's like, you got the nine millimeter. Don't worry about me. We have to delete those episodes. It's terrible. We haven't done a super hero. We just do like an augmented reality thing with like our audience. Like, oh yeah, the deleted podcast. You guys should do like an episode in the fucking

Starting point is 00:37:56 metaverse, bro. Like you guys should just embrace that shit. In the metaverse? You guys should make that popular. Are we gonna get there? Dude, 100%. Bro, that was my favorite video about the metaverse. Bro, I'm so glad you brought it up. Cody, few words, but when he says them.

Starting point is 00:38:11 No, but it's true. No, but he's not kidding. For a week, I tried for a week, I agree. For a week, I tried getting legitimately f***ed in the metaverse. I tried, dude. I tried to be a statistic. What were you wearing?

Starting point is 00:38:27 Well, I'll tell you what. I was looking like a cute boy in fucking Mark's world. In Mark's world? Yeah, dude. When the whole Horizon Worlds thing happened back then,

Starting point is 00:38:43 the whole meme was like, dude, you can get harassed on the metaverse. Every time internet harassment comes up to me, I remember the Tyler, the creator tweet where he's like, bro, just log off the fucking internet. Did we just become best friends? I think we did. Just power down.

Starting point is 00:39:00 When they put that tweet out where it was like, girl in the metaverse, the UK police are investigating. I posted the Tyler, the creator tweet. Take your walk away. Like, close your eyes. Turn the screen off. When I saw that whole thing, I'm like, I'm like, man, the UK police has got to have an extraordinary fucking budget to be wasting their time investigating it. Because it's like, dude, if somebody calls me at whatever on the internet, I just log off.

Starting point is 00:39:33 I swipe up on their phone. I fucking do my own thing. And that's it. Well, when you're not allowed to look into acid attacks, they have a lot of extra time. Yeah, that's true. Man, where did he touch you? In here. But it's like, dude, I went on there for like I went on to the Horizon Worlds

Starting point is 00:39:50 metaverse and it's like, dude, I spent a week trying to get fucked up on there. I spent a week trying to like... You were trying to get graped? Literally trying to get graped. A skirt? I literally did. I was submissive and breathable, dude. This pussy was open.

Starting point is 00:40:04 I did my best, but the problem is the world was so dead that there wasn't even, like, anybody there. I would log into the metaverse and it would just be dead. Like, it was literally, like, it's like a luminal space, you know? So I'm just sitting there. I'm like, bro, what server are you logging into where this is, like, really fucked up? You're going on, like, Reddit to find out what fucking servers to log into for Predators to attack you. Yeah, literally. Who wants this Muda out, ussy?

Starting point is 00:40:29 Yeah. Yeah, Muda is it. Yeah, dude, yeah, exactly. I'm trying to, like, you know, fucking get it. And that's one, like, I'm just sitting there. I'm like, we can't be treating this shit seriously, bro. Like, we can't be treating the metaverse attacks. Like, dude, just lock off.

Starting point is 00:40:41 Like, it is what it is. But you know what it actually is. You know, people are getting a fucking email that are reporters that are 47 years old that are like whoa this metaverse is what i heard about and like they've never fucking had any experience with it no there's like oh obviously this is a real problem because i know that this is a new popular thing well it's like the same people's like i got shot dead in los santos boys like the other day i was driving in GT online. Somebody blew up my fucking car, dude.

Starting point is 00:41:07 I was like participant to a criminal like gang shooting me. It's like, dude, it's a video game. Like log the fuck off, you know? I'm PTSD now. You should have called the police. Grant Theft Auto. You're like, I'm sorry. Thank you for your service.

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Starting point is 00:41:50 The metaverse stuff. How did that start again? We have to give you... We haven't done the offenders in a while. Oh, shit, yeah. We haven't done the offenders the past couple podcasts. What is the offenders? It's our superhero group. It is the Avengers, but broken. So we all have amazing.

Starting point is 00:42:09 We don't save anyone either. No, we try. We try our damnedest. So all of us has superpowers. Cody can fly. There's an offset to how he can fly. You have super speed. I have super speed.

Starting point is 00:42:22 Brandon. I'm invincible. Invincible. Cody has to use yell racial slurs in order to fly okay his power is only activated for that i have super speed i can't interact with anything five minutes from using my power what is what is it the crime cuck yeah crime cuck so i'm like stop that and i just phase through stuff for five minutes as I try to dial phones or anything. Cody can't save minorities.

Starting point is 00:42:49 Well, he can. He can. He just has to deal with a whole lot of shit that comes out afterwards. He just has to deal with Twitter for three days. Yeah, so if I go to a Section 8 housing development, it's on fire. It's on fire. And I want to save the children. It's like... You fly over and you're like, it's not working.

Starting point is 00:43:07 I just love the wide shot of Cody walking up with a ladder. And they're like, just fly. You can fly. Not today. Not happening. And then Brandon just resets life. Yeah. Whenever I.

Starting point is 00:43:23 Sorry, G-Van. I just... Back to life. But in my own bed, and I have no memory of what happened before. And his other body still stays. So it's really awkward when it's like my body and a ceiling fan still hanging there,

Starting point is 00:43:38 just like swinging around the room. That's fucking insane. Not today. That's how you know you're like, oh, yesterday was a bad day. Ooh. We didn't a bad day. Ooh. We didn't handle Thursday well. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:43:49 Wait, do you not have, like, any recollection of why? No. No, not at all. You wake up screaming. You wake up the next day, it's two bodies. You're like, how fucked up is my wig?

Starting point is 00:44:07 It's clean the first. You always miss your former self. That being said, what superpower have you always wanted? I think I always wanted invisibility, dude. Like, just the ability to go completely invisible at any given moment. Why, you fucking perv? Well, I mean, I think you answered the question.

Starting point is 00:44:26 We're going to have to find one. We have Angry Cops has invisibility. Of course he does. In order to activate it, he has to masturbate. So no matter what, it's very quiet. He's like invisible, but you just hear. He's near. You don't see him. invisible but you just hear like fuck I mean being invisible it's like you can do like there's a lot of tactical advantages you have in a situation right like thoughts super here and there's a hostage situation,

Starting point is 00:45:06 being invisible, greatest fucking ass in the world. I could be like that. And like, you know, when I go on, when I, when I, when I stopped doing that and I'm like, you know, visible, then I can like start snapping necks and shit. Right? Like that's, that's kind of like, yeah. That's torture. Oh, he's the naked Indian.

Starting point is 00:45:23 Behind people. Dude, he's the naked Indian. Behind people. Dude, he's fucking... He's the embodiment of Instagram real comments. Yeah. Dude, 100%. Booze and vagina. God, I fucking hate my own kind for ruining online dating. Bro, like, I'll be real.

Starting point is 00:45:42 Nothing makes you a self-hating indian guy than like instagram dude you delete that app any day there could be like dude it could be like a fucking blonde girl graduating her like fucking high school or like college or whatever dude three scrolls down please please rescart present'm like, dude, I'm fucking offended. I fucking hate my own people. I feel like half of Indian Instagram is like just LARPing as Andrew Tate. Dude, 100% is. It's like, you know, they get access to like a pair of sunglasses and shit and like a halfway decent like fucking cell phone.

Starting point is 00:46:20 And it's like, now you're on cloud nine, baby. It's like, you're the fucking king of Mumbai. It's like, fuck me. Oh, God. god i gotta show you my girlfriend's dm sometime oh god lots of boobs and vagine there bro it's like i remember like an ex-girlfriend of mine was like my like it was like tinder she was i asked me about it because like he just like the topic came up she was like telling me about i'm like i get like no matches on there because i'm like bro it's like look at me i'm like ethnically challenged like my people have fucked me on this app. Okay. I'm already unmatchable.

Starting point is 00:46:49 All right. It's never going to fucking happen. Like, why would I get on the app? I've already been fucked by my own guy. Like, bro, these people see the city of Toronto and they're still expecting Bob. You match and you send it. It's like Bob's in Virginia. JK.

Starting point is 00:47:03 Let me see that. Puss girl. Damn it! Bro, it's such a shame too because every time I see it happen, I'm like, dude, you guys, you gotta understand. I understand there's a language

Starting point is 00:47:17 barrier. There is. Sanskrit is not English. I get it. But bro, Bob's in Virginia? You gotta have a better game than that dude like i like i brought this up to my parents i respect your people for casting a wide net no you respect my people for making sure your fucking servers stay up listen india is responsible for a lot of things this is why you respect my people especially when it comes to NordVPN.

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Starting point is 00:48:46 I love free shipping! Make your balls and your spouse happy. Yeah bro, my people are working... We got NordVPN and Aurora at the same time. Dude, my people are working around the clock to make sure your servers run, dude. It's kind of like how the life is a big game of World of Warcraft. Every race has its perks and its negatives. Our perk is plus 30 IT, negative 70 fucking RIS.

Starting point is 00:49:12 Which is fucking spectacular because you breed better than anyone else. You got to thank arranged marriages for that, dude. You guys all have like fucking six kids. Like what, 1.7 billion in your continent? You got to thank the arranged marriages for that shit, bro. Like if it's already locked in, why do you got to work hard at anything, bro? You're already getting married. You're already making kids.

Starting point is 00:49:37 Come on now. Fair enough. The less time you have to dedicate to dating, the more time you can reach out to me about my car's extended warranty. Dude, I showed the bobs and the jeans to my mom and dad. I'm like, hey, dad, this is like what guys my age do now back home. And my dad's like, dude, these kids are fucking losers. Like, this is why the birth rate's going to drop, because these guys have no fucking riz. Like, Jesus Christ.

Starting point is 00:50:00 The riz. And it's... Jesus Christ. Let's and it's... Jesus Christ. Let's go back to the super power. You're really like, Eli, stop. Like, bro, that's like my negative superpower. In order to get invisibility,

Starting point is 00:50:18 I have to scream Bob's and Vagine out in public. I have to self-immolate myself in the public, like, socially in order to fucking do that. At least you're not doing it to me. I came here and filmed. Step out for that one. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Congressman.

Starting point is 00:50:33 I'll say that I have, like, kind of strong beliefs. Like, for people that don't know my background, I'm, like, Islamic background. Like, you can probably figure that up on my name if you're watching. So, I have care for the people there, but it's like i made this so like weeks ago you made a very middle like hey here i did yeah like my whole thing was like so this was a period where like hazaan piker a big popular communist socialist commentator

Starting point is 00:50:57 and you know somebody rich very rich very rich guy i'm on and the thing is i'm on like good terms like i'm on good terms with a lot of people. But he made a take where he was like, after streaming for 12 hours, my batteries get drained. And I was just like, I don't really agree. I worked in a fucking 60-hour work week where it was like, bro, you come home from work, it's like, dude, I want to

Starting point is 00:51:18 f*** your a** out, right? You're a veteran too. Yeah, pretty much. I'm an honorary veteran. I'm a great veteran. Yeah, pretty much. I'm an honorary veteran. That's so much in comics. Fuck you guys. But like even with his situation, it's like

Starting point is 00:51:34 I'm just sitting over there. I'm like, dude, this is to be a YouTuber and streamer like a podcaster, bro, we have like the most blessed job in existence. Like if I didn't do like a nine to five every day, you know, my best job ever,

Starting point is 00:51:47 you know, you know what my days are like, like it's literally, and it's thankful to a lot of people that watch me. It's waking up, scratching my fucking ass and going like, damn, I want to talk about some crazy shit today.

Starting point is 00:51:57 Right? Like that's the best job in existence. Right? So, you know, I get it. You're streaming for 12 hours a day. You probably don't want to fucking say hi to anybody afterwards. Right. But it's like, dude, that is the kind of social optics you probably never want to have. So anyways, out of all that, like his fan base and I'm not blaming him for it. Like fan bases are different. His fan base is like, what do you think about like Palestine? You haven't said anything about it. And I'm like, dude, what do you want me to do? Fucking like be the fucking piece, peace, like, the guy they send in the Middle East to, like, discuss peace?

Starting point is 00:52:26 I'm like, get out of here. So I made, like, a Discord meme. It took, like, five minutes because, you know, I'm playing a match of Siege. And, like, got a whole, surprisingly, yeah, playing a fucking game of Siege. And, you know, we're talking about peace talks. Mudahar becomes ambassador to Lebanon. Dude, and, like, I posted, like, literally 100,000 likes. Like, everyone enjoys it, but it's like a whole bunch of people like,

Starting point is 00:52:47 how could you not say anything? And I'm like, dude, you guys are with flags in the bio talking about Palestine. And I'm like, and I like throw up a receipt from like weeks ago. I'm like, I gave 10 grand to like Palestinian charities, right? Like the UN like a charities. Cause I'm like, that's more worth it. But you have to make sure your charity goes to the right place. So it's like you spend time. And like, for me Cause I'm like, that's more worth it. But you have to make sure your charity goes to the right place. So it's like you spend time.

Starting point is 00:53:06 And like, for me, charity is like, I do. You take it so serious, which is super fucking awesome. I spend, I want to say like,

Starting point is 00:53:13 like for me, it's like the receipts. If I could tabulate them up every year, you know, like the, like during COVID, I probably gave away $200,000 of charity. And it was like out of my personal accounts. I don't write any of this off for taxes because I don't believe $200,000 of charity. And it was out of my personal accounts.

Starting point is 00:53:25 I don't write any of this off for taxes because I don't believe in writing off charity for taxes. I think it's a pretty shitty thing to do. Well, for me, it's like some people... The more money you can write off, the more money you can keep from the government and spend it better putting it toward more charity. The money that I probably put towards charitable organizations is always like... It's meant mostly for me and like my personal stuff and I don't make like a big stink out of it because I don't think you should be doing like

Starting point is 00:53:49 charity solely for like there's a difference between doing a charity and being socially aware about it like you guys do veteran stuff which is like you're raising the awareness you're talking about it but this is like didn't mean shit to me apparently I mean you clearly fucking hate veterans I don't care if you raise

Starting point is 00:54:05 enough money for it doesn't matter it's it's all right you donate a billion dollars like brandon really hates the veteran that just proves that it just feels like that fucking meme or the the video of like the the rock giant like holding back the fucking rock you're just like getting arrows in the back you're like fuck this shit man. No, that just proves that the internet isn't real life. Like, no matter how much good we do, because I've donated, like, tens of thousands of dollars to, you know, police charities and stuff like that. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:54:34 At a time. But it's never good enough. At a time, per video. You do that every, like, can we talk about, like, when there's an officer involved in a shooting that gets injured, Cody, you're donating half of your ad revenue or ad read for that. And it's like tens of thousands of dollars every time that

Starting point is 00:54:50 happens. You're like, I want to take care of these guys. I want to take care of these guys. Yeah, but it just proves the internet isn't real. Like, it's not real life. So he's donating all this money, I'm donating this money, like we all donate money to these causes, but it's never good enough. It's never good enough for the internet and they they will shit on us so hard

Starting point is 00:55:10 but where's your profile pic and you're like i swear i truly believe you hate my notes no when i posted a receipt it was like a bunch of quote tweets it was like bro you're only doing this because people called you and i'm like dude it was made weeks ago like i'm just doing this to show you like this this versus a flag in the bio does a lot more you know paying for like eight supplies does a lot more but like the only reason i don't ever like talk about is because like i always believe that there's like at least for this situation there was a very serious component to it that i didn't feel educated about so i'm like i'm not gonna not going to, and like, to be real, like my,

Starting point is 00:55:45 a lot, like my closest friend, Corey, like his, you know, and like a lot of my close friends, like even Nux, for instance,

Starting point is 00:55:50 on my podcast, he's like, he's got situations where like, you know, family members are dying in a situation. So I'm like, dude, I understand there's like a really serious part to this.

Starting point is 00:56:00 And it's like, I'm not going to sit here and pretend to play this. Like it's team sports, right? Like it's a fucking baseball team versus another baseball team there's a really complicated topic so you know and the weirdest part is like asking somebody who's like a fucking gamer deep web browser like internet guy like to ask them about this it's like bro you're you're you just want somebody to validate your opinions in the world right that's it if i gave you an opinion and it

Starting point is 00:56:25 wasn't for you then all that mattered was i didn't validate your worldview and that's all that it came down to and now you're angry about it because you didn't validate it which like talking to you last night it was it was an awesome experience because again youtube is your secondary like this is what i care for your businesses you have multiple and you're like oh i do this on the side we didn't even talk about that shit last night it was like everything else you do and then a little bit of the research for 401c's and uh or whatever the charity thing yeah 501c's it's like it's doing the charity work and then you deep diving into it because we talked about i was like man there's some veteran charities out there you would have a blast with to show how they fuck shit up royally or just spend

Starting point is 00:57:07 it on i don't know and a lot and that that's one of the biggest uh biggest lies with charity groups is like there's you have to be very careful about what charity group you get behind because the vast majority don't spend the money where you think the vast majority you know i would i would say honestly from my from my experience the vast majority spend it on salaries, on board members, on all sorts of stuff, on advertising for the charity to bring more money into it so they can spend more on board seats and whatever. It's a nightmare. We call it a 90-10 charity, so 90% goes to admin fees and 10% goes to the actual charity. Because for the people that are deciding where the money goes, they want a job. It's fucking insane it's like you you think

Starting point is 00:57:45 you're you're curing cancer but at the end of the day all you're doing is inflating a bunch of people who are really good at talking about cancer it's just it's like so months ago i covered this guy called the completionist right like this was a well-beloved like gaming youtuber like made his whole gimmick was like i play video games to 100 whatever like this guy's one of the second generation old og youtubers it's not like yeah there's like video gaming tubers yeah but massive like massive and beloved and then but have we heard from his wife as to whether or not she was a completionist i I don't think he 100%ed it. He looks at all his games and he's like, and his wife is still throwing.

Starting point is 00:58:31 His whole situation was so weird because it's like he was one of the like one guys. Like usually I'm like I cover guys like Logan Paul and shit who are like unanimously like disliked by our community. So it's like it's pretty easy to like socially gain capital off of it like if people want to like go to the most negative route of why you're covering a video it's like oh you're only covering this guy to gain like viewership or something i'm like yeah he's probably like the easiest target but this guy's like well beloved or whatever right so what happened was this speed running like youtuber by the name of carl jobst you guys probably know as he's like a really like in-depth guy that covers speed running uh really beloved by the name of Carl Jobst. You guys probably know as he's like a really like in-depth guy that covers speed running,

Starting point is 00:59:05 really beloved by the community for his investigative reporting. He calls me like one night on like Discord. He's like, bro, I got this crazy story about this guy in a charity situation. And I'm like, by the way, this is like 11 o'clock at night. I'm like, all right, because you're Carl. I'll believe you. Let me get into a call right now.

Starting point is 00:59:22 Fuck sleep right now. So I get into this call with him and he's like this completionist dude. It's crazy how much business nowadays is done on Discord, by the way. Dude, it's literally the fucking Illuminati of the internet. Everyone converges on that shit. But, yeah, he brings up this story to me, this charity fundraising event. And he's like, bro, somebody tipped him off, and it was anonymous. It has to be anonymous

Starting point is 00:59:45 so he got tipped off and then we started looking through irs public filings so this guy raised six hundred and sixty thousand dollars in like u.s like currency for this charity uh for his like his charity lee open hand foundation and why over what period over around nine to ten years so that was raised a A decade. A decade. And this guy's been like, when we say this, this guy existed before, maybe like before Cody, before like, this is an OG. Before I ever started making any fucking money.

Starting point is 01:00:14 Yeah. 2010-ish, 11, YouTuber, right? Like he's an OG fucking YouTuber. And like, yeah. And loved in the community. And these guys are like the Jesus Christ of YouTube, right? Like you can't, if you're going to go up against people like this, you better fucking make sure.

Starting point is 01:00:28 And that's why I said to like Carl, I say this to like coffees. All I say is to everyone I work with, I'm like, you got to have your T's crossed, your I's dotted. Cause when you're going up against Jesus Christ, bro, you got to make sure if you're calling somebody like a fucking fake veteran or like, you know, you better make sure you have everything on the table. The fuck did you grab me for dude?

Starting point is 01:00:49 Well I mean... Well like so... I thought we were cool man. I mean... I even showed you Bob's and Virginia's. I gotta thank him for that. He made my life better. But like he brings up the story to me and I'm like oh this is kind of crazy right

Starting point is 01:01:07 like okay so we look through public IRS documentation and the guy raises money but he never contributes a dime of it so I'm like alright listen let's so he doesn't contribute it or report it personally well he reports it publicly like he raised the money but he doesn't like you have to in the IRS filing but on his

Starting point is 01:01:24 own income he doesn't report it he doesn't report you have to in the IRS filing. But on his own income, he doesn't report it. He doesn't report it. But like in the IRS filing, there's a contribution like line where you have to tell how much money you gave to a charity. So in these like public streams, like these public like indie land streams that he's doing, like he has these public events where he's like bringing big developers and people. He's like, I'm raising money for the Alzheimer's Foundation, like literally naming actual charities. Cause it was his mom, right? Yeah. Well, so, so the whole charity was built in honor of his mother. So, okay. Full context, the charity that I'm talking about that he had was the open hand foundation and the open hand foundation was built because his mother passed away through like Alzheimer's and that was why it was built. So when Carl brought

Starting point is 01:02:02 the story to me, I'm like, dude, this guy built a charity in his mother's name. I believe a lot of pessimistic shit, but this is a lot. So when we looked through IRS filings, 10 years, not a single dollar was given. Any two breakfast items for $4. New four-piece French toast sticks, bacon or sausage wrap, biscuit or English muffin sandwiches, small hot coffee, and more. Limited time only at participating Wendy's Taxes Extra. So we're just like, I'm sitting there, I'm like, there's got to be a method to the madness, right? So Carl's like, he's willing to go with the story.

Starting point is 01:02:40 I'm like, hold on, Carl, let's get him on a call first. Let's talk to him about it. So we get him on like a call. And so the timeline for it is like 2 p.m. I'm like, hey, Gerard, the completionist, are you ready for a call? He's like, yeah, give me a few hours. So we give him a few hours. In my head, I'm like, he's probably talking to a lawyer.

Starting point is 01:02:57 He's not going to take this call. It's a lost cause. But surprise, a la Intervented, he was like he's gonna take the fucking call so I'm like alright sure okay so which is probably cut off that was a weird surprise to like he actually took it because that would that's that weird balance we're like you're not

Starting point is 01:03:15 gonna take the call if you're like dude if I was if I was doing some fucked up shit and a lawyer I would call my lawyer I'm like hey should I take a call with my fucking youtubers my lawyer be like fuck no everything 6 million subscribers I would call my lawyer. I'm like, hey, should I take a call with my fucking YouTubers? My lawyer would be like, fuck no. He does everything. Six million subscribers want to know right now.

Starting point is 01:03:30 So like his lawyers was like, I guess his lawyer was like, yeah, it's cool. Take the fucking call. So he takes the call and me and Carl are playing like good cop, bad cop and shit. And admittedly, I'm like too nice in this situation. Bro, he admits to everything. The money is fucking there. It's never donated. I'm like, bro, you situation. Bro, he admits to everything. The money is fucking there. It's never donated. I'm like, bro, you're committing actual charitable fraud, right?

Starting point is 01:03:52 And like we recorded this whole hour and a half call. We release a series of videos. He makes the shittiest response in YouTube fucking history. Like we're talking like, bro, call me. I watched OompaVille, a prior guest of the podcast. I've watched his video on it, and my God. I don't even know the response. So I'm looking forward to this. Dude, with OompaVille, when I –

Starting point is 01:04:11 You and Oompa are friends. Me and Oompa are friends. He's my podcast co-host on the Some Ordinary Podcast. We're great homies. I brought the situation up. People don't understand. We're like crackheads on the internet, right? People will look at me and be like, this guy just fucks around and talks about stupid

Starting point is 01:04:26 shit. But we like, say what you will. I know a fair bit about business taxes and like charities and like how to report shit and like how to move money around. Right? Like when you say you're going to donate to a charity, do it. Then I donate to the fucking charity. So me and Oompa were like, really, really like thousand IQ plays.

Starting point is 01:04:43 Bro, he brings up this. So like this completionist guy after a month of reporting on him brings out this shitty response where he's like I'm gonna threaten to sue these guys I'm like well fucking do it I don't care like you know that I got the money to fucking take you to court let's fucking go

Starting point is 01:04:58 and then like he like he brings no receipts to the table no actual receipt so like I watched this response video at like 1 in the morning. Bro, I'm fucking harder than a fucking priest on fucking Sunday. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to invade. Because it is the shittiest response in history.

Starting point is 01:05:21 I'm ready. The door is moving down here soon. I'm ready to breach in, okay? San Antonio, really, you should look into it. Dude, I'm like ready to breach into the, I'm like a fucking full, like, commando. I'm like, this is the shittiest sponsor ever. I'm like about to breach in. This guy gave me every in, provided no receipt, no nothing.

Starting point is 01:05:40 The guy still hasn't provided any receipt whatsoever. It's like the guy amassed donation money, didn't give it away. And then like his community, who's like a bunch of children, it's like, well, you're farming like drama. I'm like, last I checked, financial scams were not drama. They were like people go to jail for this shit. Right. And it's the same thing I say to like any influencer stuff, too. It's like one of my favorite types of content is working with people like Coffee Carl on like financial scams, because it's like as somebody in this space, and I'm not going to say that I'm like Logan Paul money, like I'm not a billionaire or anything or close to it, but I've done well for myself. And I can

Starting point is 01:06:14 always say, I'm like, listen, you can get by without scamming the fucking audience, right? Like Jesus Christ. Speaking of which Have you Go ahead and You know Have you signed up For our live show VIP preferred You know If that's not sold out yet

Starting point is 01:06:30 I think it might be sold out It's probably sold out You crazy bitches Always buy that shit Like they launch it It's like done It's the first time Any of the venues

Starting point is 01:06:40 Are like Yo what the fuck This is usually That was a joking plug By the way I didn't want to jump into that When we were talking about financial scams, Eli. Oh, God, I'm sorry.

Starting point is 01:06:48 Never mind. No, but that's what Eli and his salesman, he's just like, oh, hey, by the way. Ding! No, but that's why I like, I like, that's why I wanted to take the time to come out for you guys. I was supposed to come out for, like, range day a while ago, but usually, like, times kind of line up with, like, work.

Starting point is 01:07:03 From my end, like, my, like, quarter four is pretty fucked up with like work from my end like my like quarter four is pretty fucked up but that's why i like you guys because it's like you're the only few influencers that i know that aren't like running nfts or crypto scams right like if i saw a crypto donut coin i'd be like fuck this guy you know i would have also said that no we're i mean this this group of boys is pretty straightforward with everything we do. We just want to make content. We want to help veterans. Some of us. Some of us want to help veterans.

Starting point is 01:07:33 Brandon's like, you guys aren't helping. Are you friends? Because it doesn't feel like you're friends on this side of the line. That was what I rolled over this morning, and I saw the fucking thumbnail you wanted to put on the Zap episode. Brandon hates veterans. I'm like, you guys are fuck. Go fuck yourself.

Starting point is 01:07:50 I know that Cody's like, really use red eyes in a while. That was the only note. That was the only fucking note on the thumbnail. I was like, oh, I love it. Just give Zach red eyes. So, you know, he's serious. I was like, Brandon's not giving notes. It worked.

Starting point is 01:08:10 Brandon and I were listening to it on the way over here. Our last podcast with Veteran with a Sign. Wonderful person. Please follow him. Zach's an amazing human. I love him. That podcast is really funny. Even if he's a veteran, I still like him.

Starting point is 01:08:22 You don't want to know what Brandon said behind the scenes. It had to do with... veteran i still like him you know yeah you don't want to know what brandon said behind the scenes but you know we don't talk about i saw the poster i know how fucked up he is have you seen the mailers yet yeah you know zach zach stories and like sitting around telling veteran stories between everyone it was it was fun that was a really fun podcast that's a good episode this is like it's it's stories like likeack's where it's just like we were talking about that on i think last night it's like he was asking how's the podcast around it was like it pretty much a couple of subjects and then everyone just bounces off of each other instantly the worst podcast i've been on where it's like the fucking hosts are like the goddamn ss bro it's like we got a Google Doc and we gotta stick with it boys

Starting point is 01:09:07 you deviate and they're like this doesn't align with the algorithm like what the fuck dude we're supposed to be boys drinking and having a good time crazy concept that describes no it was just like

Starting point is 01:09:23 it was just like the discussions like podcasts that we were having with like internally. It's like we were looking at how other podcasts were doing it. And it's like the few that one of our producer brought out to is like, there's like, we got to have like crazy Google docs and like links and hyperlinks. I'm like, I think that we're looking at like the H3 podcast, I think.

Starting point is 01:09:41 Cause the way that they do it is like super like to a T you know which I guess works it's like having a structure like having a structure helps but it's like Bill Burr on that podcast was fucking hilarious have you seen that episode the Bill Burr like H3H3 and the Bill Burr like that was the one where you gotta see Bill Burr be Bill Burr because he's

Starting point is 01:10:00 done it multiple times even on Theo Vaughn watching him tear apart Theo and even theo it's fucking hilarious but you see even him like meeting him his idol and not going into it with the shit like bill burr is the only guest i think all the other guys we got to find out what he hates and not discuss that because he hates compliments and that is one of the biggest things like do not compliment if he's on your show seems like one of the boys but at the end of the day like if bill bird decides he fucking hates you you're fucked you cannot win that battle of wits it's just not gonna fucking happen it's it's tough to be in like

Starting point is 01:10:35 because like i understand like a whole point of structure and everything but it's like i feel like the more youtube becomes norm like like kind of like a thing like a normal thing in society it's like i i feel like this platform succeeds when people don't take too much of a corporate look at it like and it's kind of weird because i'm saying it like we we do run youtube channels kind of like a business but i think the reality of it is like you still have to have that parasocial like not parasocial but you still have to like kind of be your person like you have to be a real person because the only way people stick to you and watch you is if you're a real human being versus like some character that's presenting themselves because at that

Starting point is 01:11:13 point you just got tv you've got like you know film or like personality it's like nobody cares about that shit or anything and that's why like for anything that i do even for like videos or like podcast stuff it's like having a baseline structure is okay but it's why like for anything that I do, even for like videos or like podcast stuff, it's like having a baseline structure is okay. But it's like even for videos, it's like I Google doc my stuff just so I don't get lost in the stuff that I say. But other than that, it's like be a real person. Otherwise, nobody's going to watch you. And I have like this one rule when I'm like editing the videos together because I always edit my own stuff. Like when I edit it, I'm like still edit your own shit.

Starting point is 01:11:43 I do it because like I know how to do it. Like I have a whole system for it. Like when I record stuff, I have a script that like auto aligns, auto sets up, pre-edits everything. And then I just do the final stuff myself. But I do it because like I've hired editors in the past who are like, they try to make it look so fucking flashy. And I'm like, that's not my video, right?

Starting point is 01:12:04 Like my video is just a fat Indian guy sitting on a fucking computer talking about shit. Have you tried going to fiber? Dude, like, well, if I go to fiber, I just got my own guy.

Starting point is 01:12:17 Like, what the fuck? Do the accent. They don't have fiber on my, you end up taking a fiber gig for your own video. You're like, oh. You're just a man. You're talking back.

Starting point is 01:12:30 I write the email. I write the email. I walk away. I'm like, what's that thing doing? No, but it's like even with hiring an editor, anytime I hire an editor, they always go to that deep. It's like every editor that I hire is from the the fucking state of like california it's like bro i gotta hire i gotta get like fucking crazy stock footage like dude it's like every this is a

Starting point is 01:12:54 discussion i've had with editors i'm like it's a literal discussion like i'm a fat indian guy recording videos on the internet okay that's all you need right like bro you don't need to have like the fucking cgi this is not marvel okay like, like this is YouTube. Chill the fuck out. I need to build an after effects logo. It's so crazy. Like dudes will come up with the craziest effects. And I'm like, I can do this faster than you. So fuck you. I'm not going to bother paying you. I can do this in half your fucking time and call it a day. And like, honestly, for me, like YouTube is like, again, that side like job.

Starting point is 01:13:24 So it's like I can sit down. It's it's really like a relaxing thing. Right. Like come home from a like I wouldn't say my job is a shitty nine to five. I enjoy my job. It's just coming home from it. It's like you work a lot. Legitimately still have a nine to five.

Starting point is 01:13:37 Yeah. Dude, he works an hours and hours. That's what like this is why I respect it. How many subs do you have on YouTube? I think like three point four or 5 million or something. I don't know. I don't know the exact amount. Like 3.5 million.

Starting point is 01:13:51 We'll say that. And you're still doing multiple nine to fives where you're running different businesses. You were talking about Q4 being extremely busy. Like I'm the CEO of like our own group. We do a lot of like property and like asset investment around around where we live we're getting into construction and everything too so it's like for us like our job is my job is a nine to five every day like this is my day every day like i wake up in seven o'clock i was telling you yesterday i'm like i usually go to bed by 10 i wake up at like seven get ready for meetings get ready for fucking work that's why i talked about the hassan stuff

Starting point is 01:14:23 i'm like bro you want to talk about social battery? Like seven is when I get up. I got to be in meetings every fucking day. My work day doesn't end until like 4 p.m. That's when I get like a chance to open up the Premiere Pro project file for the video. And I get to work on that. And then I get to upload that a day later. Like it's fucking insane.

Starting point is 01:14:42 Well, and it's like even more is you upload how many videos a week? A day. I upload it every day. Jesus Christ. This is why I always tell people you would be an individual. It's like, hey, you're welcome. We would hire you any day of the week. You're good.

Starting point is 01:15:00 I don't believe in days off. I literally can't believe in a day off. I feel guilty. Anytime I take a fucking day off, I genuinely have like an underlying feeling of guilt. You go crazy. Yeah. Like, okay.

Starting point is 01:15:10 So something like my phone's always available. You're lazy. Yeah. Like when I fly out and do anything, like if I'm in like LA or whatever, you could ask like Jen, like any of this shit. It's like when I'm like out there having fun,

Starting point is 01:15:22 I'm always like on my phone. I'm always like jittery. Cause I'm like,ittery because I'm like, I want to do work. Like, I really do like enjoy doing work. Like any day that I don't feel like I do my job, fucking cry about it. I'm like, this fucking sucks. Yeah, dude. I'll like grab my PlayStation 5 controller and I'll sit on the couch. Like, oh, I'm going to have a nice relaxing night.

Starting point is 01:15:40 Like last night I was wanting to play Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth. Such a good game. And I sat down and I was like, no, was wanting to play uh final fantasy 7 rebirth such a good game and i sat down and i was like no i need to go work and i went upstairs and started typing up a script for my next video and that's that's like the difference and we always talk about every once in a while it is we work nine to fives during coming up into whatever space has or you're still successful with 3.5 million i can't say that i work a 9-to-5 because I do own my business. That's what I was kind of getting at. I was making sure that you at least, like the venture you call 9-to-5, you still own it.

Starting point is 01:16:14 Yeah, I'm a CEO. You're like our own asset group. I feel like that actually puts us at a negative disposition where we have to work more at it because we do own it. Because if anything, at any time, anything catches fire, we have to be the at it because we do own it. Because if anything, if any, anytime anything catches fire, we have to be the ones to put it out. And it's like, it's like, it's like the same thing when I talked about it, like even on Twitter a weeks ago, like some guy was like,

Starting point is 01:16:32 how do you enjoy being a capitalist and profiting off of the efforts of your other people? I'm like, bro, I would love to make my company a co-op if people were willing to be do like lost participation or something of that sort. Right. Like nobody will like everyone enjoys it when their money gets like up, if people were willing to do like lost participation or something of that sort, right? But they won't. Nobody will. Like everyone enjoys it when their money gets like up. Like everyone loves it when their banking app sees like plus green, like I got this much money.

Starting point is 01:16:54 Nobody likes it when it's in the middle of January, February, the worst part of the fucking business like ecosystem, and you're looking at negatives and the reds and the problems and all the drama that goes with it. It's lost subsidization is what it is at the end of the day it's like everybody wants to be like everybody wants to be part of the gamble if like oh we can only win oh that's great but if we can lose two whoa hold on i just want to pay i just want paid i mean like i always say this much i'm like when i started like my initial investment like i had to invest like six figures into something which back in the day that was genuinely like make it or break it money for me you

Starting point is 01:17:28 know it's like for me like back in the day like a hundred thousand dollars was like that's all the money I had to my name you know like literally everything yeah like I saved that money over the course of living like a fucking like goblin like I had nothing and I'm, dude, I can either spend this money on nice things. A ground Jew. Yeah, literally. As specifically Rich High, the angry cops would say. As Rich High would say.

Starting point is 01:17:55 Yeah, it's like, you know, but then, like, you know, we took the effort in, like, risking on ourselves, investing. And then, like, look, business is, it's a gamble. It's like going to Vegas. Like, you can either succeed or you can fucking fail spectacularly so luckily we succeeded i'm not going to say there isn't like a survivorship bias to it but it's like dude like we work hard at what we do we make good money and it does require like a real solid sacrifice into doing it right like there's days where dude there's days where i'm like man i wish i sometimes i look at like some of the compatriots in like the youtube game and i'm like dude you guys are doing what like going to fucking vegas and la and like partying i'm like

Starting point is 01:18:32 man i fucking wish but i'm fucking working you know i gotta work okay i gotta make sure that i have that fucking stability in the future right especially in the mainstream youtube game yeah and that that what you just said, the lucky part of that drives me fucking crazy because so many people, oh, you're lucky, you're lucky this, you're lucky that. It's like, no, you don't see the fucking work that goes into this.

Starting point is 01:18:53 Like, the amount of work that some of us have to put, like, we do our own scripts for the longest time. Like, we edited our own videos. Years, years. It culminates to years of experience where we're able to do this, where we're fortunate enough to be in a position where we can hire other people to do the jobs that we're able to do this where we're fortunate enough to be in a position where we can hire other people to do the jobs that we know and it's even tough to

Starting point is 01:19:08 hire other people too because once you've been impossible because once you've been doing something you're like so fucking anal about what your video is supposed to be like you talked about mentioning scripts but it's like i'm sure it's difficult for you to hire people for scripts too because you're like my videos have been made in such a specific way for so long that it's like you better match my style to a t otherwise it took me so long just to hire an editor yeah it took a year it took six years before i hired an editor i pushed you into fucking hiring an editor and i've been looking for a writer for two years i haven't found one yeah because i'm looking for a fucking writer now yeah well if you if you if you think you're a good writer we yeah guys but all jokes aside

Starting point is 01:19:47 like literally like you need somebody who can flawlessly imitate your style that you can again craft afterward after the fact but you also you know you're saving 80 of your time by then you know being able to work it in yourself yeah it worked out it got to the point where like the only editor i could find because i i fucking i dude i've hired like six editors over the years and like a couple of them were like oh i can't look at police killing people but i finally found one and i i don't want to look at murder for a little bit it was one of mr beast former editors and that's my editor now and you're like hey this actually took you years to get there and still he's like you still edit your

Starting point is 01:20:26 videos refining the craft during your nine to five I'm lucky to be able to edit it because like that's a knowledge base that I've had so I think it's a little bit different because it's like I know how to like properly optimize and edit the flow if I didn't know how to edit videos I definitely

Starting point is 01:20:42 fucking hire an editor but I feel bad for you because he has me usually for me why is why that's not color master i've seen you be a boss to g van i'm like fuck man i don't even know how to do that shit that's you know like i remember editing my own videos on fucking windows movie maker back in the day it's like it's i've been doing this shit for over a decade it's like i know how we all kind of have a background i think that's what separates like the good youtubers from like the fucking wannabe youtubers right like we talk about how look i'm gonna i'm gonna give like fucking people credit for saying that this is like a hard job in a way because it can be a hard job because you don't turn yourself off, right? Like you're always on the internet.

Starting point is 01:21:25 You're always looking, you're always signed on, right? It's not this, this whole career is not a nine to five where you chalk out at 5 p.m. and like you can turn your brain off. That said, however, it is a very fruitful, rewarding career. If you manage to make it very successful, that does mean that you put a lot of work into it. You put a lot of effort into it. And, you know, for some people, it. You put a lot of effort into it.

Starting point is 01:21:48 And, you know, for some people, it's like either that effort doesn't pay off at all or it pays off in fucking massive dividends and you got stuff like this going on. The new BMO VI Porter MasterCard is your ticket to more. More perks. More points. More flights. More of all the things you want in a travel rewards card. And then some. Get your ticket to more with the new BMO VI Porter MasterCard and get up to $2,400 in value in your first 13 months. Terms and conditions apply. Visit bmo.com slash theiporter to learn more. It is one of those things, but I would say at the end of the day, what you're looking at is a dream job if you can make it absolutely work, right? And, you know, it is a job that you'll learn a lot about the whole industry.

Starting point is 01:22:36 You learn about every aspect of it in, like, tandem as you do it, right? Like, if you start off doing YouTube for the right reasons, you learn your script writing, you learn your editing, you learn your fucking public, you learn your social media, you learn your editing, you learn your fucking public, you learn your social media, you pick up so many skills along the way that even if it's so many, so many, even if it doesn't work,

Starting point is 01:22:53 like thumbnails specifically, like, like I'm not hiring a thumbnail. I just stretched my ass on the thumbnail and call it a day. Well, I mean, hiring a thumbnail editor, it's like,

Starting point is 01:23:03 dude, how the fuck do you explain what a good thumbnail is? It's all instinct. Dude, I don't have the instinct for it. I went up to, I mean, hiring a thumbnail editor, it's like, dude, how the fuck do you explain what a good thumbnail is? It's all instinct. Dude, if you don't have the instinct for it, you're fucked. I went up to a thumbnail editor on Discord that, like, fucking talked shit about me. So there was a thumbnail where I, like, stretched my ass on the fucking thumbnail, like, literally goateed myself.

Starting point is 01:23:18 And I'm like, this is gonna fucking do more numbers than what you have. And it did. It fucking did. It was a fucking crazy CTR. I'm sitting there, I was like, you could hire me for thumbnail work. I'm like, hold on there, chief. I can do better than you. I'm like, I sent him a thumbnail of me stretching my ass on the camera,

Starting point is 01:23:36 like literally for the video, right? Like it was a video about like getting fucked by crime and anti-cheats and shit. So I'm like, it made sense. It wasn't out of nowhere. I stretched my ass. I'm like, this is going to fucking do of nowhere I stretched my ass I'm like this is gonna boy or day review and stretching your asshole like part of me I'm like I'm gonna do this and it's like it's not gonna do it's not gonna do my numbers and I'm like oh what's your numbers okay

Starting point is 01:23:55 give me your percentage fucking double that dude's percentage is like the next day I'm like get the fuck out of here to this day or to this day i still do my own thumbnails like on my phone yeah yeah i've seen it yeah yeah i will sit there for like fucking 30 minutes before a video goes up i'm like shit i gotta photoshop a thumbnail real quick and like i still do everything the last one you just read it and you're like i had like 30 layers on this one yeah no i'm i straight up have a photoshop app on my phone that i just like you know whether it's png assets or whatever for like blood splatter i'm like i have a vision that I'm like I know this will do well with the title thumbnail I've got in mind because like that's just how we have to think oh yeah it's like what whether your content's good

Starting point is 01:24:33 or not if your thumbnail and title is ass nobody will ever watch it yeah we have in our group chat like we throw each other's thumbnails around and we all like ideate for 24 hours over like how we should do this thumbnail to make it better. That's why you don't want to do YouTube guys like holy shit this is what you're doing on a Friday night sharing thumbnails. We're fucking bitching about this. This is basically just like bitching

Starting point is 01:24:58 about taxes to the fucking audience here. It's just like oh yeah fuck. You have to learn taxes to a degree you would not want to learn When it comes to the audience it's just like oh yeah fuck i'll see you at the rails you had to learn texas to a degree you would like when it comes to the audience it's like i'm so thankful for the people that watch us like at the end of the day like like best community yeah like you guys this job i ever had and this is why like this is why i love coming down to like here for you guys like this is why like when when you told me like yo can you make it for like i'm like dude i can it's i told you january to march i'm fucking free like a bird i'm here so like you know, can you make it for like, I'm like, dude, I can, it's, I told you January to March. I'm fucking free like a bird.

Starting point is 01:25:26 I'm here. So like, you know, the community is what makes us. I'm always eternally thankful to the people that ultimately watch us and take their time out of their day. Like this is the best answer we have to like anything mainstream media wise. Like the only reason I watched like Donut U in the first place was because like police footage for me was interesting to look at. Like I'm a guy that watches like crazy shit all the time on like r slash narco footage, like about the wildest shit in the world. Right. So for me, you came up in my feed one day and I was like, oh, let me watch this guy shooting breakdowns. And I'm like, oh, this is a guy that's not like overly like wild about one side.

Starting point is 01:26:04 He's not like a virtue. It's like a normal like it's like a fucking ex-swat guy talking about crazy shit. So I'm like, I want to learn about this. I want to talk about it. That's the beauty of like the world we're in, because you can get these crazy wild perspectives from people that normally probably wouldn't have a platform in like the mainstream circle. But now we're like watched by millions of people. So I enjoy that kind of shit. And then like through you, I like learned about you, Brandon. I learned about the mainstream circle, but now we're like watched by millions of people. So I enjoy that kind of shit. And then like through you,

Starting point is 01:26:26 I like learned about you, Brandon. I learned about the entire circle here. And I was like, I like these guys are super cool. They're super like fucking awesome. And I don't know with that, like the world of social media and the communities we build, we probably wouldn't ever have that stuff, right?

Starting point is 01:26:40 Like you guys had like Turkey Tom and all those kinds of people on like last week. And they were super cool people that in a normal vacuum wouldn't have that community. But now that they do, it's really like a fuck you to a lot of the mainstream media angle where it's like, those people that like to cut off other people,

Starting point is 01:26:58 like, oh, you don't believe exactly what we believe, therefore we can't talk to you ever. I like breaking down those barriers. They're like, I never expected this crossover you see it all the time well this podcast was interesting like so to give context right like i'm pretty neutral when it comes to a lot of like political stances and for me it's like i like i've always been open about like knowing donut like i've always been open about it like i'm like oh like i've referenced about it. Like I'm like, Oh, like I've referenced in videos. I'm like, Oh,

Starting point is 01:27:26 I watched the donut operator breakdown and things like that. I'm like, he's a cool dude. And generally the community is fine about it, but there's the thing about like anything, like coming onto this podcast or coming onto anything is like, you always have like a really fringe group of people that have a weird perception of you guys.

Starting point is 01:27:42 Right. Like where, like even when I came on here, it's like the day before it's it's like bro you're on like the crazy alt-right like nazi podcast i'm like dude i don't give a how many times i mentioned two mexicans yeah i'm like dude how many times have you brought up the jews really i'm like i can't i can't be on a nazi podcast i'm with the fucking veteran hater for crying out loud. Medal of Honor recipient. It's like the seventh fucking time. Fuck off. But it's like, you know, I'm on here. I have like,

Starting point is 01:28:09 yeah, like I have like, you know, it's like we're in a group of like normal level-headed people who are like good guys. I don't know. It's, the internet is a weird place. I'm glad that it can, we have a place where we can have like people from every angle expressing an opinion and we can all like interact with each other. Right. Like at the end

Starting point is 01:28:29 of the, like what I've always said, what I said is like, we, as human beings, you can't agree on every single thing. You can't like there's in this table right now, if you brought up a really heated topic, you're going to disagree. I'm going to agree. You're going to disagree. You're going to agree. Right. Like that's going to be a but that's like human like that's like that's like normal life you know people agree and disagree but at least we're all able to have a conversation and talk to each other and have like civil discourse and then you actually get each other's point of views at a where i'm not like fuck you that's not it's actually i think that's i think that's something that separates super successful people is because even earlier today

Starting point is 01:29:09 it's like we were talking about uh topics that we disagreed on things that we would probably like you and i would probably not see eye to eye on yeah but we can hear the other party out listen to everything the other person says and say like okay well i understand why you would believe that but here's why i disagree with it like not at the end of the day like we can disagree on something without wanting the other person to die in a hole yeah like people like listen you guys probably i i've always said like if you want to get into like my politics or something like that i'm probably a little like center leftish or something that's probably where you want to get into like i'm a

Starting point is 01:29:43 little baby democrat in a way too that's's just how I guess I've been raised. And it's kind of the standard thing for like an immigrant or something. But it's just, you know, when I was coming to this show, it's like it's funny because people are always like, yeah, Brandon Herr is like a fucking Nazi or like donut operator. He said the N word one time or something. I never did. I'm like, I'm like,

Starting point is 01:30:05 what World of Warcraft session was this in? All right, you got to tell me. I love all the, like, it is the, the fake shit that comes to, it just comes out.

Starting point is 01:30:16 It's like, we've heard it multiple times without saying anything. It's like, oh, fucking how we covered the George Floyd. I never even talked about George Floyd once. Not once. But the internet will just run with whatever persona or story they heard,

Starting point is 01:30:32 and then that's the narrative. And you're like, bro, that was never brought up a single time. Yeah, they hear one thing from one person. They're like, oh, I hate that guy. It's how they want to paint you out as is the problem, right? And it's like one of the big you out as this is a problem right and it's like the one of the big things like i come on to the show and what's what's beautiful is i i'm glad that you guys invited me on the show because i've never had like anybody from like i guess quote

Starting point is 01:30:54 unquote the other camps ever invite me on their stuff because maybe i'm too a little bit too toxic or maybe a little bit too edgy it doesn't really matter but i like coming on to this one because even if we like disagree on like a few things like at the end of the day we can be like friends and have a fucking beer together or something and you know crazy that's a weird fucking concept wild to have that discussion right like i i this is why i like you guys your guys's content it's like you can have disagreements but at the end of the day we're still friends we still agree like it's it's literally like the pre-2012 of the internet when, like, people, again, could disagree and still fucking have a beer together. Now it's, like, you have to be, like, an extreme no matter what.

Starting point is 01:31:34 And that's just, unfortunately, for some people, like, their normality, which is super fucking weird to me. We call that gay. Yeah, we, I mean, dude, when, Like, on Twitter, when we have our range days, we invite everyone out. Dude, I have shit for hanging out with Wendigoon, dude. And Caleb. Which is ridiculous. Like, both of those...

Starting point is 01:31:54 I'm talking shit about my son. No, like, it's crazy. Like, Caleb's, like, our podcast co-host for the Some Ordinary Podcast. Not Wendigoon, but Oompa. Caleb, yeah. So Sour Boys, GG, fucking brilliant dude. He's like a great friend of mine. Amazing fucking human.

Starting point is 01:32:11 One of my favorite humans. Like that dude is like a brother, you know, to the day I die, right? And people are like, yeah, this guy's like alt-right Nazi pipeline type shit. And I'm like, never did I get that a single time from hanging out with him. You know what's funny about Caleb Oompa? It was like pre-podcast recording when like he's not tied up with sour boys he's like the most fucking courteous normal rational level-headed guy ever and he's probably one of

Starting point is 01:32:35 the reasons why i came onto this podcast because he's like bro i love fucking i love the unsub guys and i'm like i know you do i like them too like what the fuck it is it is what it is who cares one of my it's like with donut it's like i i like i say i like i like your stuff and it's like you like that racist and i'm like what because he's like a fucking cop i guess sure cool he breaks it because he has a non-biased approach to breaking down videos and you're like have you ever watched the video like have you watched the actual video uploader are you just saying because what you heard over Twitter or something? You sound like a white supremacist. You'll remember this is the day I almost became a congressman.

Starting point is 01:33:15 Is it both floating down? Are your opponents going to be like, he has that Indian white supremacist on? That guy that hates the Indian. Did you see the shit on Twitter this morning with Demo Ranch? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that Republican. It was a black Republican candidate.

Starting point is 01:33:33 I think it was two years ago, four years ago, who did like a thing about the Klan. Like basically like this is why I need 30 rounds is to defend myself from people who hate me. He did like a political ad. It was really good. Like political ad. Like I need 30 rounds because, you know, when clansmen come to my house i need to protect my family and uh he was just like hey bro like the brandon you need to do ads like this and i'm like my consultant has strictly forbade me from hiring clansmen in my ads

Starting point is 01:33:57 bad idea bro at the end of the day like like muda just said like i wish we all we could all just sit down like have a beer we've talked about it multiple times like we will have any guest on this just like yeah and rotate them with three or sitting down side by side we just hey let's just chat and have fun we don't talk about dumb. We just get along and then normalize these type of conversations where you're like, hey, we don't have to fucking kill each other. You can talk about serious situations. It's just like I think adults, like when you talk about like really serious political things, right,

Starting point is 01:34:37 like actual war or anything of that nature, it's like as adults you should be able to understand like people's perspectives, right? Like you should be able to get along. You should be able to have like's perspectives. You should be able to get along. You should be able to have a civil discussion. You shouldn't be screaming. That's what kids fucking do. Kids scream.

Starting point is 01:34:51 Teenagers scream in each other's ears. We're too fucking old to be doing this shit. I'm the youngest out of you guys. I'm pretty sure like 29, but I can straight up say it's like. I'm younger, technically. You're younger? Yeah. Just wrote hard and put away wet.

Starting point is 01:35:03 Well, then guess what? We're still too fucking old to be yelling at each other about stupid shit, right? We should be able to have a civil discussion. We should be able to get along. We shouldn't fucking sit on the internet and say America's like the fucking Fourth Reich or something and go crazy on each other. Yell at each other if they like a bad movie. Like Brandon's Lord of the Rings sucks. I'm screaming.

Starting point is 01:35:24 You want to have a hot cake? What's that? Like, no, you want to have a serious discussion? Like, bro, I think Fast and the Furious is the greatest movie series of all time. I'm not going to argue with that. I actually, I'm not going to argue with that because I don't know where to start with that. Okay. I'm so glad you said that.

Starting point is 01:35:40 And that's how it should be with a lot of politics. I don't know where to start. Tokyo Drift was the best Fast and Furious movie. Yes. Yes. It was the best. Oh, actually, I will go sign that. You know, this is why I say the Fast and the Furious movies are, like, the fucking best, dude.

Starting point is 01:35:56 Like, me and Jen will have this argument. She'll be like, bro, you like a shitty movie series. And I'm like. That 180 was so fucking fast. Just like Tokyo Drift. No, it's like that movie series is, like, Jen and I'm like that 180 was so fucking fast just like Tokyo Drift no it's like that movie series is like Jen and I will have this argument she'll be like I don't want to watch these movies they're pretty shit and I'm like oh are you talking about the story being shit

Starting point is 01:36:13 honey I knew the stories were fucking dog shit it had Vin Diesel casted you think that I ever expected this shit to be good I watch it cause of the cars the babes and the guns that's it this is the most Indian thing you said all night this shit to be good. I watch it because of the cars, the babes, and the guns. That's it. This is the most Indian thing you said all night.

Starting point is 01:36:29 I watch it because of the babes. The bobs and the vajines. I'm like, man, you're facing the lower thirds. Show cars and vajines. I'm like, I ain't popping a Corona to the fucking Mazda. I'm popping sitting there I'm like I ain't popping a Corona

Starting point is 01:36:45 to like fucking the fucking Mazda I'm popping it to the Bobs and Vagina popping it to Jesus somewhere Steven Spielberg just has a lone tear I'm like I don't care I don't care about good cinema

Starting point is 01:37:00 I care about the fucking slop they feed me I'm like yo if I see a Mustang and a hot babe in a fucking theater room I'm like I'm fucking golden that's good for me I'm good I'm peaked right now I don't give a shit about the Citizen Kane or Kinnamore or like the Dune Lore

Starting point is 01:37:18 Mustang hot babes AK-47s unsubscribe well you know hey we're kind of on that same boat We're on that same boat Unsubscribe meets Bollywood We should finance a Bollywood movie bro We probably can

Starting point is 01:37:35 We have some projects that we might be able to Do you want to do the banana slitting the throat shit? Yes we'll go South India style I love that Bollywood movie i'm so glad i talked to you about this earlier because it's like if you have this weird perception of bollywood okay like bollywood in the north is like they want to try to be like good bollywood in the south they give no fucks bro they like got bollywood in the south is like anime bro it's worse than at least anime makes fucking sense these dudes are doing heart surgery through, like, fucking telekinesis.

Starting point is 01:38:06 Get the fuck out of here. And then it's slow-mo shot. It's the ones where it's, like, the slow-mo back and forth, back and forth for, like, eight minutes. Where it's clearly not actually slow-mo. Yeah. And you're like, they'll stop now. It's, like, eight minutes later, you're like. Oh, this is how they film this entire sequence.

Starting point is 01:38:25 It's like your first time at Catholic Mass, when you hear your eighth Hail Mary, you're like, oh, this is the last one, right? Nope, they're just going to keep going. All right. Man, that priest is hard right now. Sunday, bro, he's ready to go. Brent's like, God damn it.

Starting point is 01:38:41 The Mass kicks in, he's like, I'm ready to fucking go, dude. Get that wine in. Get those fucking wine and crackers out. Was that the episode? We got to wait for Kenny to get back in. Fuck. That was the pinnacle right there. God damn it.

Starting point is 01:39:07 Oh my God. Okay. We'll touch on gaming really quick. Cause you are a huge gamer and we actually, Oh, this is one. Yes. Fucking hell divers.

Starting point is 01:39:15 And you're halo fan too. We were nerding out. So he's a metal gear solid fan. It was like, let me show you my mark 23. I was like, Mark 23. I was like,

Starting point is 01:39:24 here, I'm going to pull these bitches. I think between you and I, we have 23. I was like, Mark 23? I was like, here. I'm going to pull these bitches out. I think between you and I, we have three. Yeah. Dude, I'll be real. Like, if I didn't know you guys, I'd be fucking planning a burglar or something right now or something, you know? Like, really high stakes. I'm glad you know us.

Starting point is 01:39:38 Yeah, I'm glad. I'd be dead. It'd be like a fucking, you know, a whole gunfight and everything. But when I saw the new congressional fucking controversy is I have to shoot Muda Hara in my living room. Dude, if you do, you can get the camera and be like, I died for the SOCOM. I died for something worth living. Fucking MGS, baby. Dude, that's why I love the state of Texas, bro.

Starting point is 01:39:58 Like when I saw that Mark 23, I like fucking, I fucking came mentally, dude. Dude, you were taking, that was the first gun you took a picture of he was like i gotta show this well could you could you show me like in the shop dude oh you haven't seen brandon's shop yet you dude you show me every gun in the book and i'm like oh that's cool that's cool my uncle showed me that before when i saw the mark 23 i'm like i could die happy holding this that was you know who i sent this photo to my my uncle i'm like bro you gotta look at this shit this is like fucking special op shit from back in the day and he was just like oh my god i remember that what the fuck you're like huge gamer and then

Starting point is 01:40:35 metal gear solid but then we were talking about hell hell diver because we're all trying to get on board on that i just passed the tutorial today oh i just downloaded playing it too i'm like babe you fucking started with that and then clean came over last night really briefly we were talking about it and that is odst he's a huge odst fan and finding out that was supposed to be odst2 what you didn't know that no that was ods that was what was pitched for odst2 for Halo, and Bungie was like, no, it's not going to work. And the developers were like, we pitched this for this fucking game, which would have been the most dope goddamn game in the world.

Starting point is 01:41:14 Bungie, why? Just fucking ODST, like, what are they called? The ODST. Helljumpers. They're called Hell Jumpers. I'm going to go take a piss real quick.

Starting point is 01:41:30 Go get it. They're literally Hell Jumpers. That was the game developed for it. They're like, yeah, we're going to jump in the rings. Then you're just fighting the flood. You're fighting the covenant and all this stuff. What's funny, too, is Halo in itself is kind of like a pun.

Starting point is 01:41:45 Cause it's, you know, the halo jumpers, like high altitude, low opening. So it's like that, that was the whole premise is that you're jumping into hell on that shit. So no,

Starting point is 01:41:55 but like playing it for the first time, I very quickly realized this is just an unlicensed, uh, Starship troopers game. With metal gear, solid five movement. If you guys, did you see it? I showed it to you, remember?

Starting point is 01:42:08 Yes, you're the one that showed it. I was like, this is the Fox, this is the Fox Die engine? The little fucking running on the ground type shit. The dog drive turned backwards and shoot. It's very intuitive. Now, Saf started playing it last night. I was like, okay, I actually have to,

Starting point is 01:42:24 I'm going to download it tonight and actually start running it. Are we going to retake the creek? Cody. I'm down. Just start making it. Retake the creek. Dude, I downloaded it. Do you see the fucking meme where it's like, what Helldivers is really about?

Starting point is 01:42:40 It's just like all the bros emoting to each other, just like the hug. What were you saying, Cody? No, I was saying I downloaded it like we yes one jump on that tonight a hundred percent Okay, I got on the steam deck bro. It runs great. Oh, do we all want to play hell divers tonight? I'm down dude. We got extra genuinely a computer extra ones, dude I'm I'm playing the steam deck just for the added extra like difficulty i fucking heard you earlier you like you've got everything like hot key to the back i do i have like everything like so that game is so hell divers too for anybody that doesn't know they have these they got these like crazy grand theft auto cheat codes you gotta enter in for like special abilities like if you call down a machine gun or like an orbital strike like left

Starting point is 01:43:23 right left right up down up down yeah which is really fucking dope so that's an added element of stress because you're like oh here call this in because you can call for it it's not cheap but it's a cheat code in the number pressing so you're like you're getting fucking swarmed you're like and then it's like here is this konami code you're like fuck fuck fuck yeah it's like left right left right up down b a stride or something so what I do on the Steam Deck is I just, like, map them to, like, a macro on the back, like, four keys, and it's just like fucking orbital strike. Throw that shit out. God, you're so Indian.

Starting point is 01:43:55 He's our chief. Dude, I'm like, that's how you know. He's already selling it. That's how you know I'm, like, genetically, like, Indian there. I'm like, I got this. Look at my head. You're our guy in the chair. That's what we're working.

Starting point is 01:44:10 It's like, dude, when you play, like, that's how you know you're Indian. It's like when you're thinking about like playing a video game, you're already thinking about the macros and the fucking ways to get ahead and like optimizing every single thing. Dude, imagine. I fucking got you guys. I'll send you the code. Dude, my buddy Kyle. Can we turn you into Purple Squishy?

Starting point is 01:44:24 Bro, my buddy Kyle is here. I'll send you the codes. Dude, my buddy Kyle. Can we turn you into Purple Squishy? Bro, my buddy Kyle is here. I might use the script right now. My buddy Kyle was like, my buddy Kyle, when we started playing that game, he was like, bro, you got to enter cheat codes. I'm like, no, no, no, you know you're done. You have nothing to do with it. It's the only time you speak in the accent. No, no, no.

Starting point is 01:44:40 I love speaking in the accent when I'm speaking to another scammer that calls me. So usually when I pick up my phone, it's like, oh, likely spam. I pick up the phone. I'm like, hello, how's it going? What? Car warranty. What car do I own? Toyota Camry.

Starting point is 01:44:56 I see. Okay, I get it. I just fuck with them as long as it takes. I'm like, Kunal, I am from the other office in Mumbai. You are mistakenly calling me. And then we fucking, that's about it. That's how it works. Like, I fucking hate, it's a thing, like, nothing will make

Starting point is 01:45:14 you a self-hater like a fucking scam caller, dude. Like, I get it. Like, I get why people get pissed about Windows 7 like fucking warranty calls. I get that shit all the time. It's that one meme. It's like, a billion dollars, my Indian accent. No, like my people. No, but you kind of got to get it.

Starting point is 01:45:31 It's like all the doctors and engineers like fucking immigrated here and like all we have left back home are the fucking like cell phone scammers and shit. So it's like, fuck. It's the fucking pasta strainer. It's like the people who couldn't get a visa. Yeah, exactly. It's like fucking pasta strainer It's like the people who couldn't get a visa You talk to the Indian guy

Starting point is 01:45:50 It's like man how many of you guys are like Oh you're in America? Oh what do you do? Oh you're a fucking surgeon? You're an engineer? You're a fucking researcher? You contributed something? Yeah what's back home? Oh that's a fucking guy Like dude's calling me about like warranties and shit like that

Starting point is 01:46:04 I'm like I get it That's the filter that's a great filter what uh what video game are you looking forward to next now that you're playing hell diver and you you came from your youtube did you originally start in like hey i'm gonna start in the youtube space as a gamer or were you immediately like i was in as a gamer but i realized quickly like bro it's not like I don't want to turn this into my job so I just started doing what I'm passionate about and called it a day terrible to turn it into your job gaming wise the only game I'm into is like

Starting point is 01:46:34 right now is like Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth like I've been playing that like pretty much it's a high five not the other one no like pretty much like I was like before I flew out here I made sure sure to get, like, yeah. I had to pull out the page watch on that one. That was really close.

Starting point is 01:46:49 Yeah. Like, no, before I, like, flew out here, I was, like, I gotta get all my hours of Final Fantasy in before I, like, take, like, a two-day fucking sabbatical from this shit. Because it's a really good game. Like, I'm from, like, an... He's an OG gamer. Like, PlayStation. He's seen my Xenogears.

Starting point is 01:47:04 Dude, I started playing Xenogears Dude I I started playing Xenogears last night The very beginning The dark Pokemon shit Well yeah Because you were doing You started off with

Starting point is 01:47:13 Creepypasta Scary stories No no Like I looked at Your old catalog It was like Zelda Ocarina of Time And then it went down

Starting point is 01:47:21 To That's my fucking line Yeah and like The first like 500,000 view video you got was the Pokemon, like the dark Pokemon. Yeah. The creepy black stuff or whatever. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:47:32 Yeah. Was that, you explain it differently than that. I enjoyed it because like at the time, like 10 years ago, I was always like, we're going to creepy shit on the internet. No,

Starting point is 01:47:42 no, no, no, no. Like at a time, like creepy shit on the internet was what I was into. And it like kind of parlays into what I do now. Like looking at like the weird stuff on like some of my most favorite videos to

Starting point is 01:47:51 make is like, you know, the 4chan stuff where I look into like crazy like the, the Alex from Tennessee thread or something like that, where like I'm looking at somebody who's just on like the paranormal board talking about like, Hey, I found this bomb shelter in the middle of Tennessee. Maybe I want to like fucking explore it or something. Oh, shit.

Starting point is 01:48:08 There's like a crack in the middle. Should I go further? I'm like, that's the kind of stuff I enjoy. Right. So that's where like kind of the jump went into. And I think because of that, like I went away from like the gaming side, because at the time when I started YouTube, I thought gaming was like kind of like the thing that was in. But then I'm like, I've already got a job. I've already got things going for me.

Starting point is 01:48:29 I might as well do what I enjoy. And if it sticks, it sticks, right? And that's when I pivoted a little bit to general commentary, deep web, and now I'm like commentary as well. So it's like when I switch to that, it's like doing things that I enjoy. I found success in that, and that's what I pretty much kind kind of stuck to like internet scary stuff is what i'm into it's one of the reasons why i love channels like wendigoon for instance right like i love i love any channel like that that looks into like the craziest shit out there brandon's son yeah my son of course it's always

Starting point is 01:49:01 super funny because like channels like it's like uh you know isaiah like Isaiah, Hunter, any of those guys. Barely sociable, yeah. What's that? Barely sociable. Also on top of that. That's when you said Hunter. I'm like, oh, I thought you meant him. Oh, no.

Starting point is 01:49:17 I thought you meant saying they are barely sociable. Oh, people that are barely sociable. I love them guys, too. Well, I wouldn't go that far, but all right, sure. Moodle hard goes hard. Yeah, like goddamn. No, you know, Wendigoon. It's like the fucking, you know, we're using our made-up names.

Starting point is 01:49:36 He was the best guest on our podcast. Like, bro, when you bring Wendigoon on, it's like, yo, you got to sit there and be ready to talk about JFK getting fucking squad wiped 9-11. That's why he's my fucking dude. We had him on here and it was probably one of the best podcasts we've ever done. Dude. He crushed it. It was so good. I just loved he was the sober one and

Starting point is 01:49:58 then we like when the episode was coming out. It was like in context in context but Cody's parents were on that one we had on the windigoon one yeah windigoon yeah his parents were on it fucking uh trout was on it we didn't remember any of that because we had like five podcasts in two days yeah because we were one right after the other like we were just fucking churning these things out and so like we also like on top of the social anxiety of like having to hang out with

Starting point is 01:50:26 like 80 of our friends at one time. So it was, it was a lot, it was a lot. And then like that, that podcast, I remember watching on a plane for the first time, essentially.

Starting point is 01:50:35 Cause I don't remember a fucking thing that happened on it, but it was, it was so good. And I'm glad it, it pieced together. Cause five is a harder one. I don't know if you've ever had five people. It is a harder one, so the conversations get deviated.

Starting point is 01:50:48 But when you have somebody like I would say. I always hate having a fucking guest on that doesn't say shit. I don't want to shit on any guests, but if you come on my show and you don't say anything. Cody on the slide watch. Fuck you. Sewer slide. No, but the thing about it is even if you have somebody on, it's like, if you don't contribute at all, and you feel like you don't see...

Starting point is 01:51:07 That's why I hate having gamers on the show, because it's like, bro, you guys are so fucking socially stunted. You can't have any goddamn conversation about anything. Speaking of socially stunted, I see you're doing the same thing with your hands that I've been doing for, like, what the fuck? We're doing the... I just noticed it. just used it's like

Starting point is 01:51:25 conversation you guys are stimming like that sometimes you'll have like dude sometimes sometimes you'll have dudes on your show we're used to train it fuck off yeah but sometimes you'll have people on the show where it's like bro you gotta fucking say something you gotta have something to contribute to the fucking show. Jesus Christ. Like, goddamn, I don't understand how. I will say we've got very lucky with.

Starting point is 01:51:53 We try to get our guests off of like from show or the guys when we bring guests on is very like, hey, this individual is very well spoken or they can talk. Yeah. Okay. like hey this individual is very well spoken or they can talk yeah okay and if it's an individual if it's one that has problems you're like let's add another guest on that episode we'll only roll two hosts and then you have pretty good solid conversation pieces and we've got lucky in that because we haven't had just like stale i wish more YouTubers were like us, dude. Business owners, scumbags, like white supremacists and shit. That's the best kind of That is going into the first 15 seconds of this episode. It's like, I just wish more YouTubers were like us.

Starting point is 01:52:36 White supremacists, scumbags. On that fucking note, do you want to fucking send this out? Bye, everyone. Thank you for coming to the unsubscribed podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Double Fat, Brandon Herrera, hates veterans, and Mr. Mudahar, ordinary gamer.

Starting point is 01:52:56 And where can we find you at, Mr. Mudahar? You can find me at SomeOrdinaryGamers. We have a brand that's coming out, too. I feel like I might as well mention that. It's 1UP Cosmetics. I can probably send you guys the message for the URL link for that sometime soon. Well, then tell who's behind that because you were talking about that.

Starting point is 01:53:12 It's me, OompaVille. It's a gamer from Mars who are behind a skincare brand actually and it might be awful for a gamer to release a skincare brand but we're working on it because we had sponsors that were like making us do fucking Scantron tests for skincare so we decided to make our own brand and not white label we decided to actually go through two years of hard effort to find this this is a fucking crazy story i feel

Starting point is 01:53:36 like this is how you ended off we had to find a we had we found the guy that worked with verse yeah right so we found a guy that worked with Versace. Yeah, right. So we found a guy that worked with Versace. We found the manufacturer. We found everything in-house. So one of the wildest things is, like, you know how these, like, YouTubers make these white label products and shit? Yeah. Like Pokemanes, like fucking cookies or Valkyrie skin cream? No, I don't know how that happens.

Starting point is 01:54:00 I know, I know, I know. It's a really shocking concept. But, like, we had used to do white label products. I'll say this much right now. As a YouTuber, as like somebody that's in this business, I fucking hate when like big companies take, basically bend us over and fuck us in the ass for money. So I got tired of doing like ad reads and shit like that.

Starting point is 01:54:21 I like it better than the alternative. Yeah, like the alternative. I like. I at least hope there's money in the like being i like being behind the barrel by two degrees right like fuck me so we made a brand called one up cosmetics which is like a combat to like a lot of the skincare brands that were like making you do fucking scantron tests and making you like making you buy like 90 different products. So we have like one actual product that you, as guys, which we don't fucking love doing morning routines,

Starting point is 01:54:50 you take 30 seconds for and then, bam, you're good to go. So you don't want to do the American Psycho? Like I simply am not there. I mean, listen, you can do the American Psycho if you want. It's just not going to take as long as the fucking movie. But, hey, give it a try all you want. Every morning I do crunches. I can do 156 now.

Starting point is 01:55:10 But yeah, it's one of the things I've been working on with like OompaVille. I've been working on with Gamer From Mars, a few of my friends, and it's one of the projects we have as an experiment for YouTubers to build their own brands and succeed and then finally fucking have a little bit

Starting point is 01:55:25 of footing that's not in reliance to like big tech big companies big anything so it's a bit of a way for us to gain independence almost i enjoy that i enjoy that not only like uh that company in particular but like the way that you guys do things like between uh like just i mean even the way that caleb does his stuff with the he does everything it's not white label it's not just like hey i'll do an influencer deal uh use this code get 10 off like he actually from the ground up fda compliance everything just built a company hired employees and built the whole you know it's funny it's like the amount of bitching that i had to hear caleb over two years of working with us about the fucking FDA. Dude, I love Caleb.

Starting point is 01:56:08 He's my boy. But like, man, that guy, if you ever want to know about somebody that has to like anybody that's a real like proper American businessman that works with the FDA and every three letter agency is Caleb. He puts in every effort possible. That guy is the greatest dude that I've ever partnered with, period. And if you want to hear about that, check out the after show. We're going to do about 10 to 20 minutes after this. Go check out the Patreon.

Starting point is 01:56:34 Watch it. We'll have a good time. We're going to sign out right now. Cody, we love you. Donut. Check out Donut. Last one. you

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